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#27 [00:56] <cman1363> when i try to update minecraft, it freezes when in the middle of downloading
#28 [01:02] <cman1363> heloo?
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#39 [01:39] <bloodstone422> kanegasi: if you are there, I thought that last plan you had of changing java to 64 bit to match my OS would work, but it had no affect whatsoever...ughhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! what the heck can I do, I'm pulling my hair out for months!!!
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#41 [01:40] <DiskDaemon> bloodstone422: What are the symptoms?
#42 [01:40] <bloodstone422> DiskDaemon: minecraft will not work if I do not reboot my pc first...everytime
#43 [01:41] <Kanegasi> bloodstone422: i cant remember your issue either. what do you mean specifically? it only works once, then you need to reboot?
#44 [01:41] <bloodstone422> DiskDaemon: it freezes on the window displaying the buttons SINGLEPLAYER, MULTIPLAYER, etc
#45 [01:41] * Wug whispers video card drivers
#45 [01:42] <bloodstone422> what is CTCP?
#46 [01:42] <Kanegasi> its a server notice to an individual user
#47 [01:42] <DiskDaemon> bloodstone422: Can we get a crash report from when that happens?
#48 [01:42] <Kanegasi> voxelhead turned off your ability to chat because you repeated "h" too much in your first message
#49 [01:43] <bloodstone422> DiskDaemon: there is nothing, it just freezes, no report, nothing
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#51 [01:43] <DiskDaemon> bloodstone422: Let's get some recent info about your system them
#52 [01:43] <DiskDaemon> ??> bloodstone422 win/dxdiag
#53 [01:43] <VoxelHead> bloodstone422: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#54 [01:43] <VoxelHead> bloodstone422: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#55 [01:43] <bloodstone422> Voxe1Head: I already gave you that just two days ago
#56 [01:43] <Kanegasi> bloodstone422: i assumed it was because you were using 32bit java on a 64bit system, but follow wug's advice to update your video drivers. follow voxelhead's instructions first
#57 [01:44] <Kanegasi> bloodstone422: voxelhead is a bot. and we dont save people's links
#58 [01:44] <Wug> 32 on 64 just causes out of memory errors.
#59 [01:44] <DiskDaemon> bloodstone422: You've been making several changes - so a fresh report is always good
#60 [01:44] <bloodstone422> okay...
#61 [01:46] <DiskDaemon> bloodstone422: If nothing shows on the screen, there may still be a report that ends up going to the text output. You can use these instructions to get that type of report http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
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#65 [01:46] <DiskDaemon> That will be most helpful - as it gives us direct information about what is failing.
#66 [01:47] <bloodstone422> here is the link: http://pastebin.com/vspxc3LB
#67 [01:48] <DiskDaemon> bloodstone422: Thanks - can you now work on that crash report?
#68 [01:48] <bloodstone422> what crash report?
#69 [01:49] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#70 [01:49] <stickmenz> I want bukkit to fix the cpu/tps leak :( wahhh (sorry need to vent and someone to say "it's okay stickmenz.. it will be okay")
#71 [01:49] <DiskDaemon> stickmenz: Please take it to #bukkit
#72 [01:49] <stickmenz> oh i have
#73 [01:49] <DiskDaemon> We don't deal with mods here :)
#74 [01:50] <stickmenz> no?
#75 [01:50] <bloodstone422> DiskDaemon: will get that crash report to you as soon as I get something else done
#76 [01:50] <DiskDaemon> bloodstone422: Someone else should be here to take it - I'm heading off for dinner. All the best
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#80 [02:09] <BlackF1re> Thanks Dev/Code Team that you fixed the mojang account error up! Great job guys!
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#91 [02:52] <ihdcool09> Hey
#92 [03:03] <tyteen4a03> hi
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#95 [03:18] <psychojenii> I've been trying to get on multiplayer since my internet changed
#96 [03:18] <psychojenii> but i keep getting the same thing
#97 [03:18] <psychojenii> Failed to login: java.net.unknownhostexception: session.minecraft.net
#98 [03:18] <psychojenii> any clue what that is?
#99 [03:18] <psychojenii> and how I can fix it
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#101 [03:18] <ihdcool09> Restart mc
#102 [03:19] <ihdcool09> If no work
#103 [03:19] <ihdcool09> Sounds like a server problem
#104 [03:19] <psychojenii> i have ive reinstalled and it is more than one server
#105 [03:19] <ihdcool09> Then give it a day
#106 [03:19] <ihdcool09> It will get fixed
#107 [03:19] <psychojenii> ive given it 3
#108 [03:20] <ihdcool09> Hmm
#109 [03:20] <ihdcool09> Strange
#110 [03:20] <psychojenii> it's not a particular server issue, because its all of the servers
#111 [03:21] <psychojenii> it's the "unknownhost" that is a problem, is my guess
#112 [03:21] <tyteen4a03> psychojenii: Can you open the command prompt?
#113 [03:21] <psychojenii> and [p[;ease fprgive my atrocious typing. i alredy tppk my sleeping pills
#114 [03:21] <psychojenii> and yes i can
#115 [03:21] <psychojenii> done
#116 [03:21] <tyteen4a03> psychojenii: From there, type in "tracert session.minecraft.net" and press Enter
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#118 [03:22] <tyteen4a03> psychojenii: let it do things, then copy and paste the result to pastebin.com
#119 [03:22] <psychojenii> unable to resolve
#120 [03:22] <ihdcool09> DNS
#121 [03:23] <DiskDaemon> This may help then - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#UnknownHostException:_session.minecraft.net
#122 [03:23] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: always ninjaing :P
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#125 [03:36] <psychojenii> bah/ well thanks for trying to help
#126 [03:37] <undead> Is there a better console i can run my minecraft server off of ?
#127 [03:37] <undead> then the cmd
#128 [03:37] <psychojenii> ssh
#129 [03:38] <psychojenii> potty
#130 [03:38] <psychojenii> putty
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#133 [03:40] <ihdcool09> Wtf are you talkin about psychojenii
#134 [03:40] <psychojenii> he wanted a better client for running his server, i use putty for mine
#135 [03:40] <ihdcool09> oh ncm
#136 [03:40] <ihdcool09> Nvm*
#137 [03:41] <ihdcool09> I only read potty lol
#138 [03:41] <ihdcool09> Ssh and potty
#139 [03:41] <psychojenii> yeah, sleeping pills are kicking me hard now
#140 [03:43] <wizznall> is minecraft.net down at the moment ?
#141 [03:43] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/ shows that everything is healthy
#142 [03:45] <wizznall> ah cool thanks
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#155 [04:45] <Ahmad_TufTuf> Hello
#156 [04:46] <tyteen4a03> hi
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#158 [04:46] <Ahmad_TufTuf> you can help me?
#159 [04:46] <tyteen4a03> Ahmad_TufTuf: not if you don't tell me your problem ;)
#160 [04:47] <Ahmad_TufTuf> ok
#161 [04:47] <Ahmad_TufTuf> wait minit
#162 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> perhaps he meant, are free to attempt to help him?
#163 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> Ahmad_TufTuf: If you're in the middle of a gang war and need some help with stashing some loot - then no. We can't help you.
#164 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> "help" depends on the situation. I presume that you mean Minecraft in this case
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#166 [04:49] <Ahmad_TufTuf> ok..
#167 [04:50] <Ahmad_TufTuf> i can Repair the problem now :D.. thanks for the help
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#169 [04:50] <Boreeas> ...
#170 [04:50] <Boreeas> Ha
#171 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> he must've found somewhere to stash his loot
#172 [04:50] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: so what about him
#173 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> tyteen4a03: I was putting forward a strange example, to provide contrast against
#174 [04:51] <tyteen4a03> I'll pretend I understood that
#175 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> He was asking for help, and you were saying "with what" so I provided an example of needing help with something other than minecraft, to help demonstrate your query in regard to what it was that help was being wanted with, if you catch my drift
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#177 [04:53] <Boreeas> That was somewhat passive-aggressive though
#178 [04:54] <tyteen4a03> I just assumed people came here usually needed minecraft-related help
#179 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> it was passive, but I wouldn't call it aggressive
#180 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> it was passive, but I wouldn't call it aggressive
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#183 [04:54] <Boreeas> Derp
#184 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> they do indeed, so what did he need help with? credit card payment? Connecting? Logging in? How to build a castle with redstone blinking lights?
#185 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> it
#186 [04:55] <Boreeas> It is unneeded to make a full-blown over-the-top misunderstanding out of it though
#187 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> It's good that he got things sorted out
#188 [04:55] <Boreeas> Yep
#189 [04:55] <tyteen4a03> I will leave the description of this problem to the people in need
#190 [04:56] <DiskDaemon> absolutely - that is what was attempting to be prompted
#191 [04:56] <DiskDaemon> I was aiming to do it with some humour, but the message got lost in the noise
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#193 [04:57] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: the joke didn't work I think
#194 [04:58] <DiskDaemon> it fell flat on its face and is in dire need of being scraped up, and consigned to the trash
#195 [04:58] <AndreaFaerie> hi there. i have a huge investment in a minecraft world and i don't know whether or not i turned on "generate Structures" when i started. there are dungeons so does that mean it is on? if not, can i change that preference once the world has been created
#196 [04:59] <Calinou> dungeons do generate when "generate structures" is turned off
#197 [04:59] <DiskDaemon> The preference can be changed afterwards, which will take effect on any newly generated land
#198 [04:59] <Calinou> strongholds, mineshafts, villages and possibly ravines (not sure) do not, if the option is disabled
#199 [04:59] <Calinou> nether fortress however always generate
#200 [04:59] <SinZ> Ravines do iirc
#201 [05:00] <SinZ> as it isnt a structure
#202 [05:00] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, no you can't change it without using external tools
#203 [05:00] <Calinou> SinZ, in the code they're a structure but they're probably ignored by the setting
#204 [05:00] <SinZ> Calinou: on a server it does
#205 [05:00] <Calinou> ah ok then
#206 [05:00] <SinZ> it can*
#207 [05:00] <DiskDaemon> It can't be changed by using things that came with the game, but nevertheless, it can be changed as said by other tools
#208 [05:00] <SinZ> server.properties has the option <3
#209 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> AndreaFaerie: Is this a multiplayer map or a single player map that you're dealing with?
#210 [05:03] <AndreaFaerie> single
#211 [05:04] <AndreaFaerie> well can i do something externally to change it
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#213 [05:05] <AndreaFaerie> when i first started playing i was like "npcs are cheating. i wanna do it all myself" now i'm pissed because i want the things from the other structures
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#216 [05:07] <SinZ> AndreaFaerie: NBTEdit can change it
#217 [05:07] <DiskDaemon> It's the MapFeatures setting that you want to adjust - there are details on the structure at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Level_Format
#218 [05:08] <AndreaFaerie> okay cool so how do i start? just go to that link?
#219 [05:08] <SinZ> google NBTEdit, download nbtedit from the minecraftforum
#220 [05:08] <DiskDaemon> I would start by getting NBTEdit
#221 [05:09] <AndreaFaerie> okay i'm doing that now
#222 [05:10] <SinZ> the files located at %appdata%\.minecraft\saves\{WORLDNAME}\level.dat
#223 [05:10] <SinZ> where {WORLDNAME} is your world's original name
#224 [05:10] <AndreaFaerie> thanks for everything. excellent stuff to try. i really appreciate
#225 [05:10] <AndreaFaerie> it
#226 [05:11] <SinZ> you could also enable hardcore and commands with NBTEdit, if you want them
#227 [05:11] <AndreaFaerie> dude that's great. so exciting
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#229 [05:14] <AndreaFaerie> so i put NBT in my mod folder and now what do i do
#230 [05:15] <AndreaFaerie> and i don't know what i need to open the level.dat file
#231 [05:15] <Calinou> open NBTedit then open the level.dat file using nbtedit
#232 [05:15] <AndreaFaerie> because i tried it and it asks me to choose a program to open it
#233 [05:16] <Calinou> then choose nbtedit by browsing :)
#234 [05:16] <AndreaFaerie> i don't know how to open nbt edit. im a good gamer but not a good "computerer" lol
#235 [05:16] <Calinou> the NBTedit program should be where you extracted/installed nbtedit
#236 [05:16] <Calinou> thus, in your desktop/downloads folder
#237 [05:18] <DiskDaemon> Hang on, you put the downloaded nbt zip file in your mod folder? That doesn't seem right
#238 [05:18] <AndreaFaerie> yeah well that's what im saying
#239 [05:18] <AndreaFaerie> i don't know where to go after dl of nbt
#240 [05:18] <AndreaFaerie> my bf usually does all the modding stuff
#241 [05:19] <DiskDaemon> It shouldn't be in your mod folder. On your desktop or back in the downloads folder is fine. Extract the contents of the zip file to its own folder.
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#243 [05:20] <AndreaFaerie> i don't know how to extract. i keep getting an error message
#244 [05:21] <DiskDaemon> When you right-click on the nbtedit zip file, do you see any options about extracting it?
#245 [05:22] <AndreaFaerie> yeah it wasnt allowing me to but i went to open with and it made an extracting suggestion so i think i have the program now
#246 [05:22] <AndreaFaerie> it is in with mcpatcher
#247 [05:22] <DiskDaemon> Two files should have been extracted. Run the nbtedit one
#248 [05:23] <AndreaFaerie> okay now it says "root 0 entries"
#249 [05:23] <DiskDaemon> You need to open the level.dat file that you want to edit
#250 [05:25] <AndreaFaerie> okay now it says 21 entries
#251 [05:25] <DiskDaemon> You shouldn't have much trouble finding MapFeatures in there
#252 [05:25] <AndreaFaerie> so just click the entry part?
#253 [05:26] <AndreaFaerie> it says edit value so what do i want to enter
#254 [05:26] <DiskDaemon> Details are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Level_Format#level.dat_Format
#255 [05:26] <DiskDaemon> What is the existing value that is there?
#256 [05:26] <AndreaFaerie> 0
#257 [05:26] <AndreaFaerie> i really appreciate you for doing all this for me
#258 [05:26] <DiskDaemon> So 0 is off, 1 is on
#259 [05:27] <AndreaFaerie> oh okay. that is so great.
#260 [05:27] <DiskDaemon> When you're done, dave it and close.
#261 [05:27] <DiskDaemon> *save it
#262 [05:28] <AndreaFaerie> it's weird because rain and snow are also set at 0 but it rains and snows in my game
#263 [05:28] <DiskDaemon> That's if it is currently experiencing that, so that they can return when you load up the game again
#264 [05:29] <DiskDaemon> The page at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Level_Format#level.dat_Format explains that quite clearly
#265 [05:29] <AndreaFaerie> oh okay. well you have been very very helpful. i really didn't want to start from scratch just to have to structures.
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#267 [05:29] <DiskDaemon> That map features change that you made, that won't create structures in areas that currently exist in your world. It will only do it from now on in new areas that are created
#268 [05:30] <AndreaFaerie> so it won't put a stronghold next to my house but it will put them somewhere in the game?
#269 [05:32] <DiskDaemon> Areas in the game are created as 16x16 vertical chunks. Any area that existed before you enabled generation of structures won't have structures. Any new chunks that are created (by visiting new parts of the map) will now result in having structures generated on them
#270 [05:33] <AndreaFaerie> okay that's what i thought. well, i need to get sleep. i appreciate this it was awesome of you to take your time to help me
#271 [05:34] <DiskDaemon> If a lot of additional time and effort were put in, it's possible to use other tools to regenerate existing parts of the map, but before you do that you would need to make a template copy of parts that you want to keep so that you can paste them back in again to the newly generated chunks.
#272 [05:34] <DiskDaemon> That's a lot of work though
#273 [05:35] <AndreaFaerie> oh okay well ill see when my bf gets up if he feels like helping me do something like that. thanks again. goodnight
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#275 [05:35] <DiskDaemon> poor guy :)
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#285 [06:20] <flabbergaster> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
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#297 [06:44] <mib_t48r0m> is anyone else having lag issues after playing for a bit
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#299 [06:45] <mib_t48r0m> after i play for like 5 mins MC lag's to the point of not being able to play its never done that before intell this new update
#300 [06:45] <Wug> do you have 64 bit windows
#301 [06:46] <mib_t48r0m> yeah
#302 [06:46] <Wug> do you also have 64 bit java?
#303 [06:46] <mib_t48r0m> yeah i think
#304 [06:46] <Wug> I suspect that if you do, you're not using it
#305 [06:46] <Wug> open minecraft, and the task manager
#306 [06:46] <Wug> go to the processes tab and search for "javaw.exe" in the list
#307 [06:46] <Wug> if it has the *32 marker next to its name, you'll need to get the 64 bit version
#308 [06:47] <mib_t48r0m> it says javaw.exe 32 so i guess im not
#309 [06:47] <Wug> seems that way
#310 [06:47] <mib_t48r0m> ok let me try that
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#312 [06:47] <Wug> you can get it here http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1637588.html
#313 [06:47] <Wug> I believe the last entry in the list is the one you want (windows x64)
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#315 [06:48] <mib_t48r0m> thank u i hope this works
#316 [06:49] <mib_t48r0m> it says installing java
#317 [06:49] <mib_t48r0m> but its not moving
#318 [06:50] <mib_t48r0m> BTW what ever happend to sun microsystem
#319 [06:50] <Wug> takes a second
#320 [06:50] <Wug> sun is a part of oracle
#321 [06:50] <mib_t48r0m> ok it say's u have successfully installed java it should work fine now right?
#322 [06:50] <Wug> probably
#323 [06:50] <mib_t48r0m> or do i need to reboot
#324 [06:50] <Wug> should just work
#325 [06:50] <mib_t48r0m> k thank u very much
#326 [06:51] <tyteen4a03> Wug: why are you giving him java 7?
#327 [06:51] <mib_t48r0m> now it says javaw.exe
#328 [06:51] <tyteen4a03> mib_t48r0m: Yes, it should do that, try again if Minecraft lags anymore
#329 [06:51] <Wug> tyteen4a03: because judgement
#330 [06:51] <tyteen4a03> Wug: I see
#331 [06:52] <Wug> java 7 works fine
#332 [06:52] <mib_t48r0m> k thanks
#333 [06:52] <Wug> the notion that it does not is outdated.
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#335 [06:53] <Wug> issues still intermittently appear involving conflicts between different versions, but those appear as a result of the conflict, not because one of the versions is 7
#336 [06:53] <Wug> and they're always errant behavior, reinstalling invariably fixes
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#340 [07:00] <tyteen4a03> completely irrevelant topic: I find it weird that Minecraft does not implement part of the water physics (i.e water should fill the hole when you explode TNTs in the sea, not creating a crater that will never get filled up)
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#342 [07:02] <Hugmiester> helo
#343 [07:02] <tyteen4a03> hi
#344 [07:02] <Hugmiester> Is the minecraft multiplayer down because I cannot connect to mutiple servers
#345 [07:03] <Hugmiester> "cannot reach server"
#346 [07:03] <tyteen4a03> Hugmiester: Is that the whole message?
#347 [07:03] <Hugmiester> when i try to login its says logging in for a while then end of stream
#348 [07:03] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft doesn't let water spread in that sort of fashion, because it has other spreading implications in multiplayer that caused too many troubles
#349 [07:03] <Hugmiester> thats all it says
#350 [07:04] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: the classic code worked fine... not sure what this implication is
#351 [07:04] <tyteen4a03> Hugmiester: Can you give us the IP of a server you cannot connect to? How many servers have you tried?
#352 [07:05] <Hugmiester> can someone just try to get onto this server Ip: cms.no-ip.us:25567
#353 [07:05] <tyteen4a03> !check cms.no-ip.us:25567
#354 [07:05] <tyteen4a03> ....what
#355 [07:05] <tyteen4a03> !check cms.no-ip.us
#356 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> tyteen4a03: There were multiplayer issues, but I'll let you carry on with the assistance here
#357 [07:05] <Andrio|Away> AuBot, are yuo sure you typed it right?
#358 [07:05] <Andrio|Away> you*
#359 [07:06] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: query me the implication, this issue's always getting on my nerves :P
#360 [07:06] <tyteen4a03> !check cms.no-ip.us:25567
#361 [07:06] <tyteen4a03> let's just say I will have to do this manually
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#363 [07:06] <Andrio|Away> lol
#364 [07:06] <tyteen4a03> Hugmiester: cms.no-ip.us is not recongized as a valid address
#365 [07:07] <Hugmiester> what? i was on it yesterday
#366 [07:07] <Hugmiester> one second i will get the server website
#367 [07:07] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: ah, found this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1197409-water-spring-propagation-fix/
#368 [07:07] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: hopefully it will satisfy me
#369 [07:08] <Hugmiester> http://magicacraft.net/ at the top of the page the Ip i gave you is there and it has worked in the past
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#371 [07:08] <Andrio|Away> Lose the hyphen.
#372 [07:09] <Hugmiester> still wont work with no hyphen
#373 [07:09] <tyteen4a03> Hugmiester: It could be that the server address expired because of NoIP's domain expiration policy
#374 [07:09] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that is something that seems to have been allowed to occur, partly due to a response to griefing on multiplayer servers
#375 [07:09] <tyteen4a03> Hugmiester: can you give us another IP you cannot connect to?
#376 [07:09] <Hugmiester> true I have a no-ip server and it does that
#377 [07:09] <Hugmiester> okay
#378 [07:09] <DiskDaemon> Without that water restriction, it was far too easy for people to swamp entire areas with water
#379 [07:10] <Hugmiester> 72.20.14.190:25565
#380 [07:10] <Wug> have you heard of the finite water mod
#381 [07:10] <Wug> !check 72.20.14.190
#382 [07:10] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: It should also calculate the blocks around the water
#383 [07:11] <tyteen4a03> Hugmiester: it looks like this server is down as well, can you try connecting to archivesmc.com:25581?
#384 [07:12] <Hugmiester> that server works, must just be that i have chosen two servers that are down
#385 [07:12] <Hugmiester> what are the odds? :\
#386 [07:13] <tyteen4a03> Hugmiester: If the 2 servers are example.com and example.org, 1
#387 [07:14] <Hugmiester> right well Ill just have to wait it out i suppose thanks for your time
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#406 [08:38] <coolster88> it wont let me play the demo version as it says done loading and doesnt move any further
#407 [08:38] <lutzee> coolster88: you can only play the demo at minecraft.net/demo
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#411 [08:51] <tikker> or with the modified client, but he's already gone i see
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#413 [08:51] <tikker> ?? demo
#414 [08:51] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#415 [08:51] <tikker> oh
#416 [08:51] <tikker> nvm
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#428 [09:12] <DJ_yoeri> what are usefull mods
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#430 [09:14] <Boreeas> DJ_yoeri: Everyone has different opinions about that
#431 [09:14] <Boreeas> DJ_yoeri: A better question would be: What are you missing in minecraft?
#432 [09:14] <Boreeas> Chances are, there is a mod for it
#433 [09:14] <DJ_yoeri> ok but i mean what are famos minecrafters using
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#435 [09:15] <Boreeas> Which famous minecrafters?
#436 [09:15] <DJ_yoeri> yeah
#437 [09:15] <DJ_yoeri> like skitscape or
#438 [09:15] <DJ_yoeri> antvenom
#439 [09:15] <Necrodoom> vanilla?
#440 [09:15] <DJ_yoeri> what is vanilla
#441 [09:16] <Necrodoom> no mods
#442 [09:16] <Boreeas> Minecraft without mods
#443 [09:16] <DJ_yoeri> are there mods for
#444 [09:16] <DJ_yoeri> 1.3.2
#445 [09:16] <Boreeas> Yes, most mods should be updated by now
#446 [09:16] <DJ_yoeri> ok thnx
#447 [09:16] <Boreeas> Just look though the forums, and you may find omse that interest you
#448 [09:18] <DJ_yoeri> okk
#449 [09:18] <DJ_yoeri> may i have the site of the forums
#450 [09:18] <Boreeas> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/51-mods/
#451 [09:20] <DJ_yoeri> icant find the mods i want
#452 [09:20] <DJ_yoeri> and i cant find modloader
#453 [09:21] <Necrodoom> DJ_yoeri: http://www.minecraftforum.net/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&fromMainBar=1
#454 [09:21] <Necrodoom> use search
#455 [09:29] <DJ_yoeri> i want to play a adventure map
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#457 [09:29] <DJ_yoeri> but how must i do that like
#458 [09:29] <DJ_yoeri> if i want to do
#459 [09:30] <DJ_yoeri> t3c parkour
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#466 [09:55] <mr_evil> I have a lock up problem which I can live with except this time my world was gone when loaded back up, what can I do to stop the lock up problem?
#467 [09:56] <Boreeas> When does it lock up?
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#476 [10:17] <mib_ksho55> hey can anyone help me please
#477 [10:18] <mib_ksho55> i have a question about my minecraft server
#478 [10:18] <lutzee> ?? ask
#479 [10:18] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#480 [10:18] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#481 [10:19] <mib_ksho55> ok I have my own minecraft server.. I have been trying to change my skin and i moved the world folder. Now whenever I open the server and play it doesnt load my character but randomly places me somewhere in the world..
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#483 [10:19] <mib_ksho55> I have tried renaming the folder and changing the server properties
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#485 [10:19] <mib_ksho55> it seems like everytime i run the server it creates a new folder named world and starts a new character
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#487 [10:20] <Calinou> why do you rename the world folder?
#488 [10:21] <mib_ksho55> well because it was remaking a folder i thought i could use the old folder and rename it in the properties as well as the folder
#489 [10:21] <mib_ksho55> i put it back
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#491 [10:22] <mib_ksho55> I just dont see why it continues to make a new random spawn instead of using my save..
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#493 [10:24] <mib_ksho55> I mean I would just say ok and forget my old character and items i had on me because i still have the world.. but honestly i wouldnt be able to find my way back to my fortress... lol
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#518 [11:09] <downer> hey guys
#519 [11:10] <downer> i changed my skin via minecraft.net but for some reason in my client it shows the old skin.. but if i load up spout and there's a little skin preview it shows the new one... how do i clear it in my client to reflect my new skin?
#520 [11:10] <lutzee> downer: read the topic, skin servers are still having problems
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#522 [11:12] <downer> oh okay
#523 [11:12] <downer> thanks
#524 [11:13] <downer> i might be an idiot but i'm aware now
#525 [11:13] <downer> haha
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#530 [11:16] <AmberK> " ..... migration of account that make my EMAIL my character name, can this be changed ..... "
#531 [11:16] <AmberK> anyone got helpful links on that issue?
#532 [11:17] <HeroCC> Anyone need help?
#533 [11:18] <HeroCC> It does not make your in-game name your email
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#535 [11:18] <HeroCC> only your login name
#536 [11:18] <HeroCC> AmberK
#537 [11:19] <AmberK> I got that
#538 [11:19] <AmberK> pretty much the only info I an give>?
#539 [11:19] <AmberK> can*
#540 [11:20] <HeroCC> What do u mean?
#541 [11:20] <AmberK> nvm I gave enough info to the guy
#542 [11:20] <HeroCC> ok
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#544 [11:22] <HeroCC> Anybody else?
#545 [11:23] <Boreeas> HeroCC: This is not really how it works
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#547 [11:23] <Boreeas> There number of helpers is far larger than the number of people seeking support. Just idle and wait for someone to ask a question that you can answer
#548 [11:24] <HeroCC> Ok
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#550 [11:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Hey, what's the url for testing connections with minecraft.net?
#551 [11:25] <HeroCC> help.mojang.com tells you status of MC servers, is that what you mean?
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#553 [11:27] <CrusaderDeleters> No, like minecraft.net/login?username=whoever;password=fakepass;
#554 [11:27] <CrusaderDeleters> bbut... I need help. :(
#555 [11:27] <lutzee> er the auth server address um >.>
#556 [11:27] <lutzee> I lost my logs..
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#559 [11:31] <wtfjonathanftw> hello
#560 [11:31] <Boreeas> ??> CrusaderDeleters login
#561 [11:31] <VoxelHead> CrusaderDeleters: (login) http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test
#562 [11:31] <VoxelHead> CrusaderDeleters: (login) https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#563 [11:31] <wtfjonathanftw> hey when i downloaded the minecraft for my computer it said run and all but after i ran it it didnt let me log in
#564 [11:31] <Boreeas> What error do you get, wtfjonathanftw?
#565 [11:31] <wtfjonathanftw> cannot connect to minecraft.net
#566 [11:32] <CrusaderDeleters> The boreeas
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#568 [11:32] <CrusaderDeleters> thx*
#569 [11:32] <CrusaderDeleters> wtfjonathanftw: click the link up top.
#570 [11:32] <wtfjonathanftw> and when i click pla offline it turns to a black screen
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#571 [11:33] <wtfjonathanftw> sayy bad login crusader
#572 [11:33] <HeroCC> Do you have Internet?
#573 [11:33] <HeroCC> nvm
#574 [11:33] <Boreeas> Obviously
#575 [11:33] <wtfjonathanftw> aparantly
#576 [11:33] <wtfjonathanftw> im talking to you
#577 [11:33] <HeroCC> Firewall?
#578 [11:33] <Boreeas> wtfjonathanftw: What version of java do you use?
#579 [11:33] <wtfjonathanftw> hmm
#580 [11:33] <wtfjonathanftw> im sure its the required on
#581 [11:33] <wtfjonathanftw> i play runescape
#582 [11:33] <wtfjonathanftw> one*
#583 [11:34] <Boreeas> We need the exact version
#584 [11:34] <lutzee> ??> wtfjonathanftw java/version
#585 [11:34] <wtfjonathanftw> ok
#586 [11:34] <VoxelHead> wtfjonathanftw: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#587 [11:34] <VoxelHead> wtfjonathanftw: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#588 [11:34] <wtfjonathanftw> how i find out
#589 [11:34] <CrusaderDeleters> boreeas, check if he has an hserrpid
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#591 [11:34] <wtfjonathanftw> java/version
#592 [11:34] <Boreeas> Ah, right.
#593 [11:34] <Boreeas> wtfjonathanftw: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
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#595 [11:34] <wtfjonathanftw> version 7 upate 5
#596 [11:35] <Boreeas> wtfjonathanftw: To update LWJGL, follow the instructions at http://paste.kealper.com/view/7IL09r0W
#597 [11:35] <Boreeas> you may need to updated LWJGL
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#598 [11:36] <Boreeas> HeroCC[Away]: Please no public away messages
#599 [11:36] <wtfjonathanftw> k im downloading lwjgl now
#600 [11:36] <wtfjonathanftw> finished
#601 [11:36] <wtfjonathanftw> ok is up now its asking me if i want t buy onlin
#602 [11:37] <HeroCC[Away]> You dont have it?
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#603 [11:37] <Boreeas> wtfjonathanftw: Where is it asking you?
#604 [11:37] <wtfjonathanftw> i just extracted the lwjgl file and idk what to do next
#605 [11:38] <Boreeas> wtfjonathanftw: To update LWJGL, follow the instructions at http://paste.kealper.com/view/7IL09r0W
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#607 [11:38] <wtfjonathanftw> yeah i got that but that is a little complicating
#608 [11:39] <wtfjonathanftw> if you could give me a run through that woud be nice
#609 [11:39] <wtfjonathanftw> or a video instruction
#610 [11:39] <Boreeas> that's about as basic as it is
#611 [11:39] <lutzee> wtfjonathanftw: do you know where the .minecraft folder is?
#612 [11:40] <wtfjonathanftw> nope
#613 [11:40] <HeroCC> %appdata%
#614 [11:40] <lutzee> ??> wtfjonathanftw win/.minecraft
#615 [11:40] <HeroCC> then .minecraft
#616 [11:40] <VoxelHead> wtfjonathanftw: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#617 [11:40] <lutzee> HeroCC: bots are useful ;)
#618 [11:41] <HeroCC> Yes, they are, still learning keywards
#619 [11:41] <HeroCC> Wish I had one
#620 [11:41] <wtfjonathanftw> ok i got it
#621 [11:41] <wtfjonathanftw> now what
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#623 [11:41] <lutzee> HeroCC: paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
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#625 [11:42] <Boreeas> wtfjonathanftw: Go to the LWJGL folder you extracted, from there go to natives
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#627 [11:42] <wtfjonathanftw> ok
#628 [11:42] <wtfjonathanftw> i went to natives
#629 [11:42] <Boreeas> From there, go to windows
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#631 [11:42] <wtfjonathanftw> then windows
#632 [11:42] <Boreeas> Copy all files there
#633 [11:42] <wtfjonathanftw> ok 1 sec
#634 [11:43] <Boreeas> Paste them to .minecraft/bin/natives
#635 [11:43] <wtfjonathanftw> its not giving me the option to copy them
#636 [11:44] <wtfjonathanftw> ok i opend my minecraft natives and it shows that i already have them in there
#637 [11:45] <Boreeas> You need to overwrite the files that are already there
#638 [11:45] <wtfjonathanftw> ok in that case it still won't let me copy the ones in the folder
#639 [11:45] <wtfjonathanftw> i select all and right click and the option isn't there
#640 [11:46] <Boreeas> Try pressing CTRL+C
#641 [11:46] <Boreeas> Are you sure you have extracted them and are not in the archive
#642 [11:46] <wtfjonathanftw> i clicked extract
#643 [11:47] <wtfjonathanftw> ok i did ctrlc
#644 [11:47] <wtfjonathanftw> and i clicked move and replace
#645 [11:47] <wtfjonathanftw> it all looks the same
#646 [11:48] <Boreeas> Yeah, that's normal
#647 [11:48] <wtfjonathanftw> k now what?
#648 [11:48] <Boreeas> Go to the lwjgl folder -> jar
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#650 [11:49] <Boreeas> Copy jinput.jar, lwjgl.jar and lwjgl_util.jar
#651 [11:49] <wtfjonathanftw> ok
#652 [11:49] <Boreeas> Paste them to .minecraft/bin
#653 [11:52] <wtfjonathanftw> one sec
#654 [11:52] <wtfjonathanftw> ok done with that step
#655 [11:53] <Boreeas> Restart minecraft
#656 [11:54] <wtfjonathanftw> it still says the same thing when i try to log in
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#658 [11:55] <Boreeas> HeroCC[Away]: Please no public away messages
#659 [11:56] <Boreeas> wtfjonathanftw: Could you repeat the error, please?
#660 [11:56] <wtfjonathanftw> cannot connect to minecraft.net
#661 [11:57] <wtfjonathanftw> i have been trying to get this thing to work for 3 days now
#662 [11:57] <Boreeas> Okay. Open the terminal
#663 [11:57] <wtfjonathanftw> what is the terminal lmao
#664 [11:57] <Boreeas> Command prompt, if you prefer
#665 [11:57] <HeroCC[Away]> cmd.exe
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#667 [11:58] <Boreeas> Press the windows key, enter cmd, press enter
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#669 [11:58] <wtfjonathanftw> got it
#670 [11:58] <jackson> hi i needed help to start a server
#671 [11:58] <jackson> i am using bukkit
#672 [11:59] <jackson> i just need to know what ip address to enter in the server.properties file
#673 [11:59] <jackson> i enter my extrenal IP and it says like this port is already in use
#674 [11:59] <jackson> is the server running somewhere else
#675 [12:00] <wtfjonathanftw> boreeas?
#676 [12:00] <HeroCC> ?? jackson win/ip
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#678 [12:00] <Boreeas> jackson: Leave it blank
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#680 [12:00] <Boreeas> wtfjonathanftw: Enter 'ping login.minecraft.net'
#681 [12:00] <Boreeas> Then press enter
#682 [12:00] <jackson> what do other people enter then to join
#683 [12:01] <wtfjonathanftw> it says its not recognized
#684 [12:01] <Boreeas> jackson: Your ip, but you don't need to put the ip in the config file
#685 [12:01] <HeroCC> ?? jackson bindport
#686 [12:01] <Boreeas> wtfjonathanftw: without the '
#687 [12:01] <wtfjonathanftw> i did that
#688 [12:01] <lutzee> HeroCC: some factoids were removed btw
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#690 [12:02] <wtfjonathanftw> not recognized as an enternal or external command
#691 [12:02] <Boreeas> Weird
#692 [12:02] <lutzee> Boreeas: sometimes 7 doesn't like any commands unless in admin mode
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#694 [12:02] <lutzee> Does it on my laptop
#695 [12:02] <evilC> Can anyone tell me if minecolony mod works on latest version of minecraft?
#696 [12:03] <lutzee> ??> evilC mods
#697 [12:03] <VoxelHead> evilC: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#698 [12:03] <VoxelHead> evilC: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#699 [12:03] <wtfjonathanftw> why does this have to be so hard
#700 [12:03] <evilC> oh sorry
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#702 [12:03] <HeroCC> ?? wtfjonathanftw win/path
#703 [12:03] <wtfjonathanftw> ?
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#705 [12:04] <wtfjonathanftw> what is that supped to mean
#706 [12:04] <Boreeas> wtfjonathanftw: Do you have admin access on your computer?
#707 [12:04] <wtfjonathanftw> uhh yeah
#708 [12:04] <HeroCC> ?? index
#709 [12:04] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#710 [12:05] <Boreeas> wtfjonathanftw: Try whitelisting java in your firewall
#711 [12:05] <wtfjonathanftw> how do i do that
#712 [12:05] <Boreeas> That depends on your firewall or AV program
#713 [12:05] <Boreeas> Check the documentation of that
#714 [12:06] <wtfjonathanftw> i just turnd the firewall off
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#716 [12:07] <wtfjonathanftw> my computer really doesn't want me to play minecraft
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#718 [12:08] <HeroCC> wtfjonathanftw, add java to your PATH
#719 [12:08] <HeroCC> Google it
#720 [12:08] <Boreeas> HeroCC: How is that going to help?
#721 [12:09] <wtfjonathanftw> and how do i add java to my path
#722 [12:09] <HeroCC> It wasnt in the path, minecraft starts with java
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#724 [12:09] <HeroCC> Google it
#725 [12:10] <wtfjonathanftw> hows about i download a viewer and let one of you guys get on my computer
#726 [12:10] <wtfjonathanftw> and try it
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#730 [12:12] <Boreeas> HeroCC: The error was "Can't connect", not not being able to start
#731 [12:12] <wtfjonathanftw> it also won't let me play in my browser
#732 [12:12] <HeroCC> oh
#733 [12:13] <HeroCC> Sure the server is up?
#734 [12:13] <Boreeas> I can log in
#735 [12:14] <wtfjonathanftw> i just want to play the game idc about a server
#736 [12:15] <HeroCC> ! paid HeroCC
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#738 [12:16] <Nobues> is the MC login server down? I can't login
#739 [12:16] <wtfjonathanftw> java is already in my path
#740 [12:16] <wtfjonathanftw> when i go to command prompt i can typein java and javac and it gives me an output
#741 [12:16] <HeroCC> oh, good
#742 [12:17] <wtfjonathanftw> so what is wrong with it?
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#744 [12:17] <HeroCC> mc.net/authdown
#745 [12:17] <HeroCC> ?? mc.net/authdown
#746 [12:17] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#747 [12:18] <wtfjonathanftw> it won't let me use the browser..
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#749 [12:19] <wtfjonathanftw> i have had the download for 3 days ifit takes 3 days to fix the overload then the game wasn't worth 25$
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#751 [12:20] <wtfjonathanftw> how do I get a refund?
#752 [12:20] <lutzee> The servers aren't overloaded..
#753 [12:20] <wtfjonathanftw> there ya go
#754 [12:20] <lutzee> wtfjonathanftw: what antivirus do you use?
#755 [12:21] <wtfjonathanftw> i don't use an antivirus
#756 [12:21] <lutzee> firewall/antivirus same thing
#757 [12:21] <HeroCC> ?? malware
#758 [12:21] <wtfjonathanftw> windows firewall
#759 [12:21] <lutzee> i see...
#760 [12:22] <wtfjonathanftw> but I disabled the firewall.. still not working
#761 [12:23] <jackson> do i need to port foward when i use a server
#762 [12:23] <lutzee> wtfjonathanftw: read this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
#763 [12:23] <HeroCC> Jackson, yes
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#766 [12:25] <jackson> I can't find out how to port foward my web browser block portfoward.com can anyone tell me how to do it here?
#767 [12:25] <HeroCC> try (linksys) 192.168.1.1
#768 [12:25] <jackson> i did that
#769 [12:25] <jackson> i dont know what to type in
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#771 [12:26] <jackson> i have a cisco E2000
#772 [12:26] <lutzee> jackson: if you don't know the password it will be printed on the router
#773 [12:26] <jackson> i know the password
#774 [12:26] <jackson> i mean what do i type in to port foward a port
#775 [12:27] <lutzee> jackson: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Cisco/Linksys-E2000/Minecraft_Server.htm
#776 [12:27] <jackson> at single port fowarding i need to type in external and internal ports and to ip address
#777 [12:28] <HeroCC> 25565 port
#778 [12:28] <HeroCC> IP = go to cmd type ipconfig and see IPv4 address
#779 [12:31] * HeroCC is now known as :EPICMINECRAFTHELPER
#780 [12:31] <EPICMINECRAFTHELPER> Get that?
#781 [12:33] <Boreeas> Please shorten your nick
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#783 [12:33] <Boreeas> Also, "Don't talk in all caps" is also true for nicks
#784 [12:33] <Calinou> some people here use irssi in 80x24 terminals :P *points at Boreeas*
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#786 [12:35] <HeroCC> Bored so....
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#798 [12:52] <leadstik> Yeah hi, I just need some help because I cant connect to any servers since the 1.3.2 update, any suggestions??? Oh and on my brothers laptop I can connect to servers!
#799 [12:53] <xales> Why can't you?
#800 [12:54] <leadstik> Well I really don't know! My internet is fine, I put in an IP, which is 1.3.2, and it just sais the error, "cannot reach server". This has happened ever since I updated to 1.3.2.
#801 [12:54] <leadstik> Well I really don't know! My internet is fine, I put in an IP, which is 1.3.2, and it just sais the error, "cannot reach server". This has happened ever since I updated to 1.3.2.
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#808 [13:04] <plowboy181> can anyone tell me if i can recover a world that has deleted itself?
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#810 [13:05] <plowboy181> can anyone see me typing
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#814 [13:09] <plowboy181> can anyone tell me how to get help?
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#820 [13:23] <burntfrieser> does anyone know how to set up a server on windows?
#821 [13:24] <burntfrieser> i know how to start it and run the .exe thing but it wont recognize admins and wont let me access the properties file
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#823 [13:26] <burntfrieser> what should i run the properties file with, because java wont run it but it lets me view but not edit the settings within the server options file
#824 [13:26] <Carsy> I am trying to register for minecraft but when I fill in my information it says my email address is already in use
#825 [13:27] <burntfrieser> have you tried using a different email carsy?
#826 [13:27] <Carsy> and when I requested a username using me email address it sent me a username I've never used?
#827 [13:28] <Carsy> I don't have a different email
#828 [13:28] <TheBadNoodle> Well someone did
#829 [13:28] <burntfrieser> is there anyone you share your email with?
#830 [13:28] <TheBadNoodle> Don't bother purchasing, just reset the password for that account
#831 [13:28] <TheBadNoodle> ;)
#832 [13:28] <Carsy> no
#833 [13:28] <Carsy> how do I do that?
#834 [13:28] <burntfrieser> make a spamer email on gmail
#835 [13:29] <burntfrieser> its easy and fast
#836 [13:29] <TheBadNoodle> http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#837 [13:29] <TheBadNoodle> burntfrieser, making any form of purchase with a throwaway email account is a bad idea.
#838 [13:30] <burntfrieser> whys that?
#839 [13:30] <TheBadNoodle> What if you wanted to reset your password in a year?
#840 [13:30] <Carsy> how is someone else using my email address to register in the first place
#841 [13:30] <burntfrieser> then go back to your email?
#842 [13:31] <TheBadNoodle> Carsy, obviously it's not as secure as you think.
#843 [13:31] <Carsy> ok, that's scary
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#845 [13:32] <thunderbeat> hello me again
#846 [13:32] <thunderbeat> i have a question
#847 [13:32] <TheBadNoodle> Ask away.
#848 [13:32] <Carsy> Maybe minecraft isn't for me if I can't trust my info is safe
#849 [13:32] <TheBadNoodle> Well Carsy, it's your email that's insecure, not minecraft.
#850 [13:33] <Carsy> oh
#851 [13:33] <thunderbeat> i have only the minecraft.exe and when i open it than come a java error message that java cant not crate a java viritual machine i dont know what i can do
#852 [13:33] <Carsy> what would you recommend I do to register if my email is already in use by someone else & I don't have another email to use?
#853 [13:34] <TheBadNoodle> In all honesty I'd suggest just using the other account
#854 [13:37] <Carsy> what do you mean, use the other account? I know the username but I don't know the password. Should I just reset the password? If so, won't whoever else that's using just change it so they can use it?
#855 [13:38] <Carsy> Sorry, meant won't whoever is using my email, just reset the password again so they can log on & play?
#856 [13:38] <TheBadNoodle> Only if they still have access to your email account.
#857 [13:38] <TheBadNoodle> In which case you've got bigger problems :P
#858 [13:39] <thunderbeat> can someone ask my question?
#859 [13:39] <CrusaderDeleters> No, it's impossible for anyone to ask your question, for we do not know your question.
#860 [13:39] <thunderbeat> i have quest it
#861 [13:40] <thunderbeat> i have only the minecraft.exe and when i open it than come a java error message that java cant not crate a java viritual machine i dont know what i can do
#862 [13:40] <CrusaderDeleters> We can, however, ANSWER your question, but we cannot ask it.
#863 [13:40] <CrusaderDeleters> reinstall java
#864 [13:40] <thunderbeat> have i
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#867 [13:41] <thunderbeat> give it a better supporp as the chat?
#868 [13:46] <lutzee> ??> thunderbeat win/dxdiag
#869 [13:46] <VoxelHead> thunderbeat: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#870 [13:46] <VoxelHead> thunderbeat: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#874 [13:49] <thunderbeat> VocelHead: i have http://pastebin.com/ktGU2byF
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#877 [13:53] <Carsy> ok, I'll try that, thanks!
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#879 [13:54] <thunderbeat> vocelHead?
#880 [13:54] <thunderbeat> *VoxelHead?
#881 [13:54] <lutzee> VoxelHead is a bot, and that's odd. :/
#882 [13:54] <lutzee> oh
#883 [13:54] <lutzee> Why do you only have 32bit ultimate? O.o
#884 [13:55] <thunderbeat> and lutzee?^^
#885 [13:55] <thunderbeat> my mainboard and system is 2 years old
#886 [13:55] <thunderbeat> but the graka is new
#887 [13:55] <lutzee> you have a 64 bit CPU
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#889 [13:56] <thunderbeat> and?
#890 [13:56] <lutzee> You should have gotten a 64bit OS
#891 [13:56] <thunderbeat> shure?
#892 [13:56] <thunderbeat> it cant be
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#894 [13:56] <lutzee> thunderbeat: 64 bit has been around a lot longer than 2 years
#895 [13:57] <lutzee> All phenom II x4's are 64bit
#896 [13:57] <thunderbeat> hmm mean you that i cant play that game?
#897 [13:57] <lutzee> well all PhenomII's are 64bit
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#899 [13:57] <thunderbeat> i was can play it last year why not now?
#900 [13:58] <lutzee> Not sure, just, try get a 64bit OS it will make things easier :S
#901 [13:58] <thunderbeat> i must buy me a 64bit vreson for that or?
#902 [13:59] <lutzee> not sure
#903 [13:59] <lutzee> and i have to go
#904 [13:59] <thunderbeat> hmm
#905 [14:00] <thunderbeat> i will try it with java 6
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#915 [14:15] <ilosho> How do we change the button settings to make a button 2 and button 3. We do not have the option to select it when clicking on it in the control settings.
#916 [14:15] <thunderbeat> lutzee with java 6 i can play it but i cant login in my acc :)
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#920 [14:17] <Timrit> I bought Minecraft under my account username. Is there no way for my son to have his own display name without spending more money for another copy?
#921 [14:18] <Morrolan> Some server-sided plugins allow to choose a nickname, but he'll still play using your account.
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#923 [14:19] <Timrit> Morrolan: As long as his displayed name is not mine is what he wants. He hates playing under my username.
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#925 [14:20] <Morrolan> Then it'll be best to ask the server's admin whether they are using a plugin which allows to change the nickname. (With most plugins this can be achieved using "/nick <new nick here>")
#926 [14:20] <Morrolan> If the server doesn't offer such a plugin, there's nothing which can be done, though. (Same goes for singleplayer)
#927 [14:21] <Timrit> Morrolan: I will have him try and see or have him ask. Would he lose his inventory on nick change?
#928 [14:21] <Morrolan> No, it's merely a nickname, inventories, bans, ranks and the like are bound to account names.
#929 [14:21] <Timrit> Ok. Thanks.
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#935 [14:25] <Glenn7027> I have the brand new mountain lion from apple. I have been trying to install mods for minecraft with no success. Please help!!
#936 [14:25] <Morrolan> Define "no successs"
#937 [14:25] <Morrolan> success*
#938 [14:26] <Matterom> im Having an issue with my minecraft 1.3.2, there is a visual error that fails to render edges to blocks, leaving a invisible grid of sorts that alows me to see through the ground and hollow buildings
#939 [14:26] <Glenn7027> the mods would not work or minecraft would fail
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#941 [14:26] <JaredBanyard> I am having problems purchasing minecraft through moneybrokers or paypal, they are returning with errors
#942 [14:26] <JaredBanyard> help
#943 [14:26] <Matterom> on water it simply leaves a purple grid
#944 [14:27] <Morrolan> Glenn7027 - Make sure you removed the META-Inf folder. Also, make sure you used the correct version of the mod. You may NOT use a version of a mod written for 1.2 in Minecraft 1.3 etc.
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#946 [14:27] <Glenn7027> i have
#947 [14:27] <Morrolan> Glenn7027 - If neither of these is the cause, you'll have to contact the mod's developer, since there's no way for us to troubleshoot those mods.
#948 [14:27] <Morrolan> Matterom - Make sure your grahpics driver doesn't force AA or similar.
#949 [14:27] <Matterom> AA?
#950 [14:27] <Morrolan> Anti Aliasing.
#951 [14:27] <Glenn7027> this happens for every mod
#952 [14:28] <Matterom> ah
#953 [14:28] <Matterom> ill check
#954 [14:28] <Morrolan> Should be somewhere in the driver's control panel.
#955 [14:28] <Morrolan> Glenn7027 - The only one who can truly offer support with mods is its creator, you'll have to contact them.
#956 [14:28] <Glenn7027> ok thanks
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#958 [14:29] <Morrolan> JaredBanyard - What kind of errors do you get?
#959 [14:30] <Matterom> Ok that fixed it, Strange that it never affected the 1.2.5 version
#960 [14:30] <Matterom> Ok that fixed it, Strange that it never affected the 1.2.5 version
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#962 [14:31] <JaredBanyard> Morrolan: It first gave me problems with the VISA cards, saying that it couldnt go through
#963 [14:32] <JaredBanyard> Morrolan: then it started saying my cards are blocked for 24 hours
#964 [14:32] <JaredBanyard> Morrolan: Then I tried paypal
#965 [14:32] <JaredBanyard> Morrolan: And it came back saying that it couldnt process the paypal
#966 [14:33] <Morrolan> Moneybookers blocks card for 24 hours after a number of failed payment attempts, yea.
#967 [14:33] <Morrolan> Regaring the PayPal issue - is this a prepaid card, or a regular one?
#968 [14:33] <JaredBanyard> its coming straight from my bank account
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#970 [14:34] <Morrolan> Odd. You might want to contact the issuer of your credit card, and ask them whether they're blocking international payments for some reason.
#971 [14:34] <JaredBanyard> Morrolan: well the moneybroker was my credit card, paypal is direct withdrawl from my bank account
#972 [14:35] <Morrolan> Oh, I see.
#973 [14:35] <JaredBanyard> Mojang AB: Return to merchant and try a different payment method: Error Message: This payment cannot be completed and your account has not been charged. Please contact your merchant for more information.
#974 [14:35] <JaredBanyard> thats the paypal error
#975 [14:36] <Morrolan> You could try to use the credit card to pay through PayPal. (That is, instead of logging in to your paypal account, select the button which says something like "Don't have a PayPal account? Pay using your credit card instead")
#976 [14:36] <JaredBanyard> hmm
#977 [14:36] <Morrolan> Ofcourse you could also contact the merchant, Mojang in this case, but you'd have to wait two months for an answer, and it's doubtful they could do much.
#978 [14:36] <JaredBanyard> what a pain in the ass
#979 [14:37] <JaredBanyard> TAKE MY MONEY
#980 [14:37] <JaredBanyard> ugh
#981 [14:39] <JaredBanyard> there we go
#982 [14:39] <JaredBanyard> thats all that worked
#983 [14:39] <JaredBanyard> is buying it without using my paypal account
#984 [14:40] <Morrolan> Moneybookers is proving to cause issues every now and then. As for PayPal's direct debit thingy, haven't got much experience with that one.
#985 [14:40] <JaredBanyard> yeah its all a mess
#986 [14:40] <Morrolan> But so far paying with a credit card directly though PayPal has proven to be the most stable solution.
#987 [14:40] <JaredBanyard> fun fun
#988 [14:40] <JaredBanyard> should probably tell people that :)
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#990 [14:41] <noeldac> how do i do mods
#991 [14:41] <Morrolan> Yea, wouldn't hurt if Mojang added some disclaimer on the checkout page or so.
#992 [14:41] <JaredBanyard> should be as few barriers to give you money
#993 [14:41] <Morrolan> noeldac - Check their description, all of them provide installation instructions. (generally)
#994 [14:41] <Morrolan> JaredBanyard - We can't do much, since none here works for Mojang. (In fact, we rarely have contact with them, these days)
#995 [14:42] <Morrolan> Oh well, maybe one of them will listen, one day. ;)
#996 [14:43] <JaredBanyard> heh
#997 [14:43] <JaredBanyard> I guess when they are sitting on a few million bucks
#998 [14:43] <JaredBanyard> they dont care
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#1000 [14:44] * Morrolan turns EssMib_1479 around
#1000 [14:44] <Morrolan> #essentials is over there. :)
#1001 [14:44] <Morrolan> #essentials is over there. :)
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#1003 [14:45] * Morrolan giggles
#1003 [14:50] <TheBadNoodle> lolled
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#1007 [14:57] <ds_> in minecraft pocket edition i flew super high and then i lost the woorld that i worked super hard on
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#1009 [14:57] <Morrolan> Super story.
#1010 [14:58] * Morrolan scratches head
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#1011 [14:58] <jremi> Hello
#1012 [14:58] <jremi> Does anyone know whether the yogbox comes with the all the stuff that Aether needs?
#1013 [14:58] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan
#1013 [14:58] <Grim_Reaper> jremi #risucraft
#1014 [14:59] <jremi> Huh?
#1015 [14:59] <jremi> I join that channel?
#1016 [14:59] <Grim_Reaper> Yes
#1017 [14:59] <Morrolan> Doubtful they'll want to bother with modpacks they didn't made themselves, though.
#1018 [14:59] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan I thought risucraft loved mods
#1019 [14:59] <Morrolan> First step would be to check Yogbox's documentation.
#1020 [14:59] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - They love people who know what they're doing, the other kind, not so much. ^^
#1021 [15:00] * Morrolan hugs Grim_Reaper, nevertheless
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#1022 [15:00] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1023 [15:00] <jremi> I went on to there, but no one is helping -_-
#1024 [15:00] <Morrolan> As I said, they won't bother to assist you with modpacks they didn't create.
#1025 [15:01] <Morrolan> Just read that modpack's docs already.
#1026 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> I would love to answer. But I dont know the answer
#1027 [15:01] <Morrolan> Or contact it's developers.
#1028 [15:01] <jremi> I have
#1029 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> plus... we dont really help with mods here
#1030 [15:01] <jremi> Yeah like yogs cast would reply to me -_-
#1031 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> We help with "Oh my gawsh this thingy just broked! Mah gaem she not working brah!"
#1032 [15:01] <jremi> xD
#1033 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> And things like "How do I open my inventory"
#1034 [15:02] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan's fav job really. He lives to help with minecraft issues..
#1035 [15:02] <jremi> Newb questions?
#1036 [15:02] <Morrolan> Indeed, sometimes I also kill to get rid of some issues. :)
#1037 [15:03] <Morrolan> (See: PEBKAC)
#1038 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> ??pebkac
#1039 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> :|
#1040 [15:03] <jremi> Meh, I'll just add the aether files to the modpack.jar :/
#1041 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1042 [15:04] <jremi> Cant wait til I start to work on making my own MC Type game :D
#1043 [15:04] <Morrolan> You _could_ ask #aethermod - but no guarantee they'll feel like answering either ;)
#1044 [15:04] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1045 [15:05] <jremi> Thanks
#1046 [15:05] <jremi> Is there a yogbox channel? :P
#1047 [15:05] <Morrolan> Seeing as how the aether mod modifies tons of files, chances are it's incompatible with other mods, anyway.
#1048 [15:05] <Morrolan> No clue, try #yogbox *shrug*
#1049 [15:05] <jremi> No ones in it :/
#1050 [15:07] <jremi> You sure you guys dont know? :P
#1051 [15:07] <Grim_Reaper> If we did.. we would have answered
#1052 [15:07] <Morrolan> Why should we?
#1053 [15:07] <jremi> Fair enough :P
#1054 [15:07] <Morrolan> I don't like the yogscast, so I'll stay the hell away from any modpacks they make ;)
#1055 [15:07] <Smanly> :SD
#1056 [15:07] <Morrolan> In addition to that I rarely use mods.
#1057 [15:08] <jremi> Why?
#1058 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> I used a mod once
#1059 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> then...
#1060 [15:08] <jremi> Mods are fucking awesome
#1061 [15:08] * AuBot kicked jremi from #minecrafthelp (Reason: remi :Please keep it civil.)
#1062 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> It went back to playing default minecraft and was happy
#1063 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> haha <3
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#1065 [15:08] <Morrolan> AuBot doesn't like mods, it seems.
#1066 [15:08] <Smanly> I cant play with out mods!
#1067 [15:08] <jremi> ^
#1068 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> Or swearing Morrolan
#1069 [15:08] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Hmm, yea, maybe. ;)
#1070 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> fooooorking fork
#1071 [15:09] <Boreeas> I play without mods
#1072 [15:09] <Morrolan> Smanly - If I'd play singleplayer only I might have started to heavily use mods as well, but so far SMP keeps its long-term motivation for me. :)
#1073 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> If you can play games without a mod
#1074 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> You play the game like a bawss
#1075 [15:09] <Boreeas> s/play without mods/don't play/
#1076 [15:09] <jremi> Mods just make the game better
#1077 [15:09] <Smanly> Well, I dont play survival.
#1078 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> jremi not always..
#1079 [15:09] <Smanly> I run a Creative server.
#1080 [15:09] <Morrolan> Boreeas - To be fair, one couldn't play Oblivion without fan-made patches. ;)
#1081 [15:09] <jremi> I run a Tekkit server
#1082 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> I very rarely use mods in games ever
#1083 [15:10] <jremi> no mods = No fun
#1084 [15:10] <Morrolan> Then there's the X series, which benefit a lot from mods. I like them in most games, but haven't used them in Minecraft a lot, so far.
#1085 [15:11] <Grim_Reaper> jremi thats like saying the game isn't fun ;-;
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#1087 [15:11] <jremi> Grim, it gets boring after a while, you gotta admit
#1088 [15:11] <Smanly> I "need" MacroMod, Optifine (my current Comp Sux), And stuff like TMI, and minimap, WE CUI, and flymod make building/life much easier.
#1089 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> jremi I cant deny that
#1090 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> But thats generally why I tend to wait for features to be added, and play other things ^^
#1091 [15:12] <jremi> You should try the Aether mod, Its like an expansion to the game
#1092 [15:13] <Smanly> Lol, or EvilMinecraft (?)
#1093 [15:13] <Smanly> I havent tried it.
#1094 [15:13] <Smanly> But its like a whole new game, lol.
#1095 [15:13] <Grim_Reaper> I tried evilminecraft a few months ago
#1096 [15:13] <jremi> Evilminecraft fucks up the game alot
#1097 [15:13] * AuBot kicked jremi from #minecrafthelp (Reason: remi :Please keep it civil.)
#1098 [15:13] <Grim_Reaper> Didn't play for long. But it's quite interesting ^^
#1099 [15:13] <Smanly> -_-
#1100 [15:13] <Smanly> jremi's a slow learner.
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#1102 [15:13] <Grim_Reaper> But due to it lagging quite a bit on my pc due to lack of optimization with the mod.. I kinda haven't tried it since. But it's a very good mod by the looks of it
#1103 [15:14] <superlivxx> What does "user not premium" mean?
#1104 [15:14] <Grim_Reaper> It means your user is not premium
#1105 [15:14] <Grim_Reaper> In other words
#1106 [15:14] <Grim_Reaper> Your account says you have no bought the game yet
#1107 [15:14] <Grim_Reaper> not*
#1108 [15:15] <superlivxx> so if i buy the game it will work?
#1109 [15:15] <TheBadNoodle> -_-
#1110 [15:15] <Grim_Reaper> Yes..
#1111 [15:15] <Grim_Reaper> The game has a demo mode
#1112 [15:15] <Grim_Reaper> But it's broken at the moment
#1113 [15:15] <superlivxx> ok. Thank You!!!
#1114 [15:15] <Grim_Reaper> But if you want to play the full game
#1115 [15:15] <Grim_Reaper> You need to buy it
#1116 [15:16] <SyDiko> Lol, jremi got kicked.
#1117 [15:16] <SyDiko> Made me chuckle.
#1118 [15:16] <Smanly> Lolyep
#1119 [15:16] <lutzee> Grim_Reaper: it works at minecraft.net/demo
#1120 [15:16] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh I see
#1121 [15:17] <Grim_Reaper> Thanks luckz
#1122 [15:17] <Grim_Reaper> lutzee *
#1123 [15:17] <Morrolan> Smanly - Haha, indeed he is.
#1124 [15:17] <Grim_Reaper> I shall keep that in mind
#1125 [15:17] <Morrolan> Think it'll happen a third time?
#1126 [15:17] <Smanly> XD
#1127 [15:17] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe
#1128 [15:17] <lutzee> Jeb said they weren't going to mess around with the launcher to fix it, so they made it browser only
#1129 [15:17] <Smanly> Like Jeb knows anything.
#1130 [15:17] <Smanly> PFT
#1131 [15:17] <Grim_Reaper> ^implying you do
#1132 [15:18] <Smanly> pffft
#1133 [15:18] <Grim_Reaper> ^can only see pfffft
#1134 [15:18] <Grim_Reaper> say*
#1135 [15:18] <Smanly> Oh.
#1136 [15:18] <Smanly> TIL
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#1140 [15:28] <CrusaderDeleters> I think jebs screwed up 1.3.
#1141 [15:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Wasn't as good of an update as I would have assumed.
#1142 [15:29] <CrusaderDeleters> 1.4 is awesome though
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#1144 [15:29] <Ana> hello there
#1145 [15:30] <Ana> could anyone help me with my issue
#1146 [15:30] <Ana> could anyone help me with my issue
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#1148 [15:31] <Ana> i'd like to buy minecraft for my gf and i'm not sure if she likes it or not, so if she doesn't like it can i use her game on my comp :)?
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#1151 [15:32] <oldtopman> Ana: Absolutely! When you buy minecraft, you're really buying premium status for a username, so you can log onto the minecraft client from anywhere and play the game.
#1152 [15:32] <lutzee> Ana: minecraft usernames can be used on any computer :)
#1153 [15:33] <Ana> so if i buy her the game i can use her username on my computer :)? And how long does this premium account last? Forever?
#1154 [15:34] <oldtopman> Ana: Forever! If you want to play with her though, we reccomend that you get your own account.
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#1156 [15:34] <moonofevil> hey
#1157 [15:35] <moonofevil> whenever i tyr to go on multiplayer
#1158 [15:35] <moonofevil> try*
#1159 [15:35] <Ana> thank you so much :) , she will be surpriced ;)
#1160 [15:35] <moonofevil> and it says too long to log in
#1161 [15:36] <moonofevil> took to long*
#1162 [15:36] <moonofevil> took to long*
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#1183 [16:09] <null_fahrenheit> 99% cpu utilization at a special save game. ran before fine. then gets more and more slower, took almost no input. sounds of npc still hearable.
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#1186 [16:13] <null_fahrenheit> one more time: 99% cpu utilization at a special save game. ran before fine. then gets more and more slower, took almost no input. sounds of npc still hearable.
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#1188 [16:14] <null_fahrenheit> how can i talk to mod or admin here directly?
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#1190 [16:16] <null_fahrenheit> What i dont understand: so many people loged in, but no one answers me?
#1191 [16:18] <null_fahrenheit> this is why i hate social networks: they only have the appearance of being social.
#1192 [16:18] <null_fahrenheit> o shit, i leave
#1193 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Because people idle.
#1194 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> they leave their computers logged in, because they're not at their computers 24/7
#1195 [16:18] <NinjaKirby> Or those that are present are unsure how to assist
#1196 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> As well as that ^
#1197 [16:19] <Eddie> Or kittens are in the way.
#1198 [16:19] * NinjaKirby starts chasing one
#1198 [16:19] <NinjaKirby> Daaaw!
#1199 [16:20] <null_fahrenheit> ok many good reasons. but remember: this is the HELP-chat...
#1200 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Which nobody here is paid to help others for.
#1201 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> We're all community volunteers.
#1202 [16:22] <null_fahrenheit> let me ask like this: is there anyboby here willing to give me some help?
#1203 [16:22] <tyteen4a03> oh, and this is nto a social network
#1204 [16:22] <tyteen4a03> *not
#1205 [16:23] <tyteen4a03> null_fahrenheit: IRC culture: Don't ask to ask, people idle
#1206 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> "<null_fahrenheit> 99% cpu utilization at a special save game. ran before fine. then gets more and more slower, took almost no input. sounds of npc still hearable."
#1207 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Define: 'special save gave'
#1208 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> er, game
#1209 [16:23] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: hmm, how did I miss that
#1210 [16:23] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1210 [16:24] <null_fahrenheit> one save game, the other still work fine
#1211 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Then simple explaination, save game corruption. Not unusual
#1212 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> We see it happen all the time
#1213 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> I can try recommending a world editor like MCedit to try and fix the problem.
#1214 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Not sure if chunkster is still around, but worth looking into
#1215 [16:26] <null_fahrenheit> mcedit crashed after running. havent managed to get running. chunkster? will try.
#1216 [16:26] <null_fahrenheit> region fixer tried, it found no problems
#1217 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Then I don't know what else to suggest.
#1218 [16:29] <null_fahrenheit> im not sure if it is a save game problem. becouse it occurs while playing, and loading it just reprocuces the behavior
#1219 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Don't suppose you did frequent backups..
#1220 [16:29] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1220 [16:30] <NinjaKirby> Are the days of deleting level.dat and resorting to the _backup gone? (Or however it was done)
#1221 [16:31] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1221 [16:32] <NinjaKirby> Derp
#1222 [16:32] <null_fahrenheit> Normally i backup constantly, but the game was still young. its not the save game i want to rescue, its the problem i want to understand
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#1224 [16:34] <null_fahrenheit> but NOT here, as i see now.
#1225 [16:34] <null_fahrenheit> bye
#1226 [16:34] <null_fahrenheit> bye
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#1233 [16:41] <dijikul> #
#1234 [16:41] <dijikul> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#1235 [16:41] <dijikul> #
#1236 [16:41] <dijikul> # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x0000000069b037e5, pid=4864,
#1237 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> ?? pastebin
#1238 [16:42] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1239 [16:42] <dijikul> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (20.6-b01 mixed mode windows-amd64
#1240 [16:42] <dijikul> compressed oops)
#1241 [16:42] <dijikul> # Problematic frame:
#1242 [16:42] <dijikul> # C [atio6axx.dll+0xad37e5]
#1243 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Stop that
#1244 [16:42] <dijikul> #
#1245 [16:42] <dijikul> # An error report file with more information is saved as:
#1246 [16:42] <dijikul> # C:\Users\jenkej\Downloads\hs_err_pid4864.log
#1247 [16:42] <dijikul> Lol. Sorry.
#1248 [16:42] <dijikul> I should know better- you're right.
#1249 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> And it's an ATI video driver issue.
#1250 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Update your ati video drivers, and it should go away
#1251 [16:42] <dijikul> hmm
#1252 [16:42] <dijikul> updating my ati drivers from windows updatre usually breaks them
#1253 [16:42] <dijikul> so I'm intentionally running an older driver.
#1254 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Don't use windows update
#1255 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> It will never give you the latest drivers. Use:
#1256 [16:43] <dijikul> I have two video cards- one pcie, and one pci.
#1257 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> ?? gpu/amd
#1258 [16:43] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#1259 [16:43] <dijikul> cheers
#1260 [16:43] <dijikul> thanks.
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#1262 [16:48] <Childz> I need help
#1263 [16:49] <Childz> I need help
#1264 [16:49] <xales> Why else would you be here...?
#1265 [16:49] <xales> Maybe if you said what you need help with, someone could actually help you.
#1266 [16:49] <Childz> When I click play demo it isn't poping up
#1267 [16:50] <Childz> the screen
#1268 [16:50] <xales> Are you trying to play in the browser, or using something you downloaded?
#1269 [16:50] <Childz> Browser
#1270 [16:50] <xales> Do you have Java installed?
#1271 [16:50] <Childz> Yep
#1272 [16:50] <xales> What browser are you using?
#1273 [16:50] <Childz> FireFox
#1274 [16:51] <xales> What OS?
#1275 [16:51] <Childz> OS?
#1276 [16:51] <Childz> Windows XP
#1277 [16:51] <Childz> 64 bit
#1278 [16:51] <xales> Are you logged in on minecraft.net?
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#1280 [16:51] <Childz> Yep
#1281 [16:51] <xales> Wait, what? 64-bit XP? ._.
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#1284 [16:52] <Childz> Not sure
#1285 [16:52] <xales> Then you probably don't have it.
#1286 [16:52] <Childz> Have what
#1287 [16:52] <xales> Anyway; try using Internet Exploder^WExplorer.
#1288 [16:52] <xales> The 64-bit version of XP.
#1289 [16:53] <Childz> I have internet exploer
#1290 [16:53] <xales> Yes, try using it to play the demo.
#1291 [16:53] <Childz> Ok ill try
#1292 [16:53] <Childz> Thanks for trying to help
#1293 [16:55] <Childz> Internet is soo slow
#1294 [16:56] <Childz> Xales thanks its working
#1295 [16:56] <xales> ._.
#1296 [16:56] <xales> yep
#1297 [16:56] <xales> If you want to play in a non-shit browser, install Java properly
#1298 [16:57] <Childz> ok
#1299 [16:57] <Childz> Im getting mac soon
#1300 [16:57] <xales> :|
#1301 [16:57] <Childz> well my dad is anyway
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#1303 [17:00] <dijikul> GreyVulpine: Driver updates fixed that. Thanks!
#1304 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#1305 [17:01] <dijikul> that link is great. I'll keep that in my back pocket.
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#1307 [17:06] <Revo1997> When ever i log on to my main account revo1997 it crashes but my alt account is fine is there something wrong with it i realy want to fix it
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#1309 [17:06] <MacMaizer> Hey i do have a Problem, i can'
#1310 [17:06] <xales> Revo1997: The account doesn't change anything at all.
#1311 [17:06] <xales> If one works, so will the other, unless you're using some nonstandard launcher or mods.
#1312 [17:07] <MacMaizer> tcan't start Minecraft anymore -> It says -> Java Platform Binary SE don't works
#1313 [17:07] <xales> MacMaizer: Did you try to install a mod or texture pack?
#1314 [17:07] <Revo1997> Im using everything normal when i try to log in to a server the account crashes but when im on the other account it works fine
#1315 [17:07] <MacMaizer> Nope
#1316 [17:07] <xales> Revo1997: Does it do it on *only* that server?
#1317 [17:07] <Revo1997> Yeah
#1318 [17:08] <xales> MacMaizer: Has Minecraft worked before on that computer?
#1319 [17:08] <xales> Revo1997: Then your account data on the server is corrupt. Ask the admin to delete it.
#1320 [17:08] <Revo1997> Yes its worded before
#1321 [17:08] <MacMaizer> Yes, it crashes after i had Problems with my Graphiccard
#1322 [17:08] <Revo1997> ok thank you i will try that
#1323 [17:08] <Revo1997> thanks by
#1324 [17:08] <xales> MacMaizer: Uninstall every version of Java, then install the latest version from here:
#1325 [17:08] <xales> ??> MacMaizer java/1.6
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#1327 [17:08] <VoxelHead> MacMaizer: (java/1.6) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1328 [17:09] <MacMaizer> Did it before, don't work
#1329 [17:09] <MacMaizer> but okay, i try it
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#1331 [17:10] <techperson_1> Hello?
#1332 [17:10] <xales> Hi.
#1333 [17:11] <techperson_1> Ive been trying to get on a minecraft server and i cant get on but i can get on it on another computer
#1334 [17:11] <xales> Why can't you?
#1335 [17:11] <techperson_1> It wont let me
#1336 [17:11] <techperson_1> It says op timed out
#1337 [17:11] <xales> That's very specific.
#1338 [17:12] <xales> Is there an error message? Has it worked before? What version of Minecraft are you using? Are you able to connect to other servers?
#1339 [17:12] <techperson_1> And before that it said host connection error or something like that
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#1341 [17:13] <techperson_1> Error msg Operation timed out Yes it has worked before 1.3.1/1.3.2 Nodus And yes i am able to connect to other servers
#1342 [17:14] <xales> Use the normal launcher.
#1343 [17:14] <techperson_1> Ok hold on
#1344 [17:14] <xales> Err, normal Minecraft.
#1345 [17:14] <xales> Not Nodus.
#1346 [17:14] <xales> ._.
#1347 [17:14] <Smanly> :d
#1348 [17:14] <zen> ._.
#1349 [17:14] * oldtopman comforts xales
#1349 [17:14] * xales snuggles oldtopman
#1349 [17:14] * techperson_1 Hello?
#1349 [17:14] * Smanly jumps on top
#1349 [17:14] * Smanly hi
#1349 [17:14] <Smanly> ?
#1350 [17:14] <oldtopman> techperson_1: What?
#1351 [17:14] <techperson_1> That is very odd
#1352 [17:14] <MacMaizer> cales? - Just did what you told me, but it won't work
#1353 [17:14] <MacMaizer> xales*
#1354 [17:15] <techperson_1> Xales i will switch it
#1355 [17:15] <oldtopman> MacMaizer: Are you on a mac?
#1356 [17:15] <techperson_1> Yes
#1357 [17:15] <MacMaizer> Nope
#1358 [17:15] <xales> MacMaizer: What were the "problems with your graphics card"?
#1359 [17:15] <techperson_1> What do u mean... Just lettin u know im switchin it right now
#1360 [17:16] <xales> ??> techperson_1 irc/multitasking
#1361 [17:16] <VoxelHead> techperson_1: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addresse's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#1362 [17:16] <MacMaizer> The Driver? For the card was broken because some Blizzard guy told me to install a new one for diablo 3, what was the wrong advice an other guy from Blizzard told me
#1363 [17:16] <Smanly> XD
#1364 [17:17] <xales> ??> MacMaizer win/reinst
#1365 [17:17] <VoxelHead> MacMaizer: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1366 [17:17] <VoxelHead> MacMaizer: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1367 [17:19] <techperson_1> Xamles it still says Op timed out
#1368 [17:19] <zen> techperson_1: both PC's are on the same network?
#1369 [17:20] <techperson_1> Im using mac and the other pc yes it is on the same network... soooo Yes there on the same network
#1370 [17:20] <MacMaizer> Good i did delete everything, installed and same problem
#1371 [17:21] <zen> Hmm mac not connecting
#1372 [17:21] <techperson_1> What do u mean?
#1373 [17:21] <techperson_1> Oh i see it was a thought now
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#1375 [17:22] <MacMaizer> Is there anything what i can do?
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#1377 [17:25] <techperson_1> &2 Colors?
#1378 [17:25] <techperson_1> nope
#1379 [17:25] <MacMaizer> hello?
#1380 [17:26] <xales> MacMaizer: If you removed *every* version of Java and reinstalled it, then it should be working unless something on your computer is very broken.
#1381 [17:27] <xales> techperson_1: Are you running the server?
#1382 [17:27] <techperson_1> No
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#1384 [17:27] <xales> Then ask the person running it for help.
#1385 [17:27] <techperson_1> Um i dont have access to him
#1386 [17:27] <Drew> I cant get my server running sir
#1387 [17:27] <MacMaizer> I did everything, java uninstalled, mc uninstalled, everything everything else works perfectly only Minecraft won't work
#1388 [17:29] <xales> Drew: Why can't you?
#1389 [17:29] <xales> MacMaizer: Then something on your computer is broken.
#1390 [17:29] <techperson_1> Ok i guess i get the owner somehow
#1391 [17:29] <Drew> I dont know I download the launcher but no files download
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#1393 [17:29] <Smanly> Drew: Wat
#1394 [17:30] <xales> Drew: Are you trying to play the game, or trying run a server?
#1395 [17:30] <MacMaizer> because one game don't work something is broken? - uhm.. Diablo 3 works, LoL works, SC2 works, and only Minecraft does not, so i really don't think that anything on my cpu is broken.
#1396 [17:30] <Drew> Run a server
#1397 [17:30] <xales> MacMaizer: Do any of those games use Java? Or OpenGL?
#1398 [17:30] <xales> (the answer is no.)
#1399 [17:30] <xales> Drew: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1400 [17:30] <Drew> Ill check it out brb
#1401 [17:31] <MacMaizer> thats not true, League of Legends did use it, thats why i can't play it when it was with ma graphic card, OpenGL didn't work everything runs only MC bitches
#1402 [17:32] <xales> MacMaizer: What, exactly, is the error you are getting?
#1403 [17:32] <MacMaizer> Java Binary Platform SE don't work.
#1404 [17:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Mac, please do not swear.
#1405 [17:33] <MacMaizer> where i do swear? :o
#1406 [17:34] <CrusaderDeleters> at the end of the third to last line you wrote.
#1407 [17:34] <xales> MacMaizer: That would indicate that your Java installation is broken.
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#1409 [17:34] <xales> As I said before, uninstall *every* version of Java.
#1410 [17:34] <xales> Only then do you install 1.6 again.
#1411 [17:34] <MacMaizer> ohh okay i go later i wash my tongue with soap later
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#1413 [17:34] <MacMaizer> Dude, i really uninstalled Java.
#1414 [17:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Hey mac, what version of java are you using?
#1415 [17:35] <Drew> Thanks I needed to make a seperate server folder from my Minecraft folder
#1416 [17:35] <Drew> See Yall later
#1417 [17:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Bai
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#1419 [17:36] <MacMaizer> 1.6 like recommended earlier
#1420 [17:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Mac: Uninstall every java and get this: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk6-downloads-1637591.html
#1421 [17:37] <CrusaderDeleters> You may have gotten an out-of-date java
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#1423 [17:38] <MacMaizer> my mistake
#1424 [17:38] <MacMaizer> i meant java 6
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#1426 [17:38] <giggitygoo> How do u recover a minecraft password if u forgot ur email and ur password
#1427 [17:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Youc an't.
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#1429 [17:39] <giggitygoo> why not?
#1430 [17:39] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang about it
#1431 [17:39] <giggitygoo> ya but they are to slow and I have a series going
#1432 [17:40] <DiskDaemon> Or, there's another solution
#1433 [17:40] <DiskDaemon> giggitygoo: Do you still know your username?
#1434 [17:40] <giggitygoo> ya i do
#1435 [17:40] <DiskDaemon> Enter your username in to http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification and you will be sent an email
#1436 [17:40] <MacMaizer> installing Java now again :3
#1437 [17:40] <giggitygoo> ya but I changed my email
#1438 [17:41] <giggitygoo> Is there a log file in your .minecraft?
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#1441 [17:45] <MacMaizer> Do not work at all
#1442 [17:45] <MacMaizer> even with the new Java Link
#1443 [17:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Mac: Does it crash after playing minecraft a while?
#1444 [17:47] <MacMaizer> i can't even get to the start screen
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#1446 [17:47] <MacMaizer> it loads and then blackscreen and Java(TM) Binary Platform SE failure, won't work.
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#1451 [17:55] <MacMaizer> nope don't work. I wan't my money back.
#1452 [17:55] <MacMaizer> won't*
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#1454 [17:55] <MacMaizer> arg
#1455 [17:55] <MacMaizer> want
#1456 [17:55] <MacMaizer> so i see where i get it back
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#1458 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> Info on a refund - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
#1459 [17:57] <NinjaKirby> Daemon Diskette: I believe he may already departed.
#1460 [17:57] <NinjaKirby> And I wish him luck, lerl
#1461 [17:57] <NinjaKirby> Wow, bad English from me back there, good lord, cannot even
#1462 [17:57] <DiskDaemon> Yes, nuts. I seem to be good at that type of timing
#1463 [17:58] <NinjaKirby> it okay, thees tings happne
#1464 [18:01] * DiskDaemon watches grammarian convulsing on the floor
#1464 [18:02] <NinjaKirby> Goodness gracious me.
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#1467 [18:04] <DiskDaemon> That's a nice Sophia Loren impression.
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#1471 [18:05] <NinjaKirby> Italian Actress, so says Wikipedia... our survey says!? Ding! Yes! That is a correct answer.
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#1474 [18:06] <NinjaKirby> I'm not familiar with the Lady's work to be honest.
#1475 [18:06] * NinjaKirby is more of a Hepburn fan
#1475 [18:07] <DiskDaemon> There was a dong by the same name, done by Peter Sellers and Sophia Loren
#1476 [18:07] <NinjaKirby> A "Dong"
#1477 [18:07] <DiskDaemon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKMy15O1tCw
#1478 [18:08] <NinjaKirby> DiskDeamon, I think you might be showing a little age :P
#1479 [18:08] <DiskDaemon> It's something I picked up from an old fellah - he was really in to the goon shows and other related material
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#1483 [18:10] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, rightio...
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#1488 [18:16] * DiskDaemon now puts Gangnam Style vs Nicki Minaj http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHHCLh3fFg
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#1489 [18:17] <szdavid24> hi, im using minecraft 1.3.2, and since 1.1 (i think) i have texture bugs (the edges of all blocks are white), how can i fix it?
#1490 [18:18] <NinjaKirby> Do you have Advanced Rendering turned on in the graphics settings? That used to give me some jip
#1491 [18:19] <szdavid24> yes i do
#1492 [18:19] <szdavid24> i also have this bug with additional texture packs
#1493 [18:19] <NinjaKirby> Bit of a wild guess, but try deactivating it and rolling without it for a while, see if it remedies it.
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#1495 [18:20] <NinjaKirby> I am unfamiliar with bugs surrounding texture packs, I shall refrain from commenting :3
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#1498 [18:21] <NinjaKirby> For the record, I've played without Advanced Rendering for months now and afaik I haven't missed anything special.
#1499 [18:22] <szdavid24> so: now i turned off advanced openGL and now the texture bug is still unfixed
#1500 [18:22] <szdavid24> :/
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#1502 [18:23] <szdavid24> btw: ninja, are you online on the irc channel all the time? cuz i met you before
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#1504 [18:25] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, in here on and off, and aye, I do recognise your name :D
#1505 [18:25] <NinjaKirby> Really, texture bug persists? FUUUU-
#1506 [18:26] <NinjaKirby> I guess next thing that isn't a nightmare, is updating the Graphics Card drivers and associated Software.
#1507 [18:26] <szdavid24> yea, it does, and im happy that you've recognised me :DD i just cant remember what i asked:D
#1508 [18:27] <NinjaKirby> My memory is terrible, I can't recollect either ~_~
#1509 [18:27] <szdavid24> xD ok, thx anyway for help i'll try minecraftforum
#1510 [18:28] <NinjaKirby> Okie man, best of luck :)
#1511 [18:28] <szdavid24> thx, c'ya
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#1518 [18:37] <Guest35047> hi i literally just purchased an account and when i went to buy another one it says paypal is not working
#1519 [18:38] <Guest35047> why wont it let me buy another premium account?
#1520 [18:39] <Guest35047> ??
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#1523 [18:41] <Guest594> Hi, i just purchased a premium account and now i want to purchase another one but its declining, my last payment through paypal worked fine, why wont this payment work?
#1524 [18:43] <NinjaKirby> Is it one premium jobby per account? Are you trying to buy with another username/login?
#1525 [18:44] <Guest594> i am trying to buy another premium status for another account
#1526 [18:44] <DiskDaemon> There can also be a built-in delay of around 24 hours or so between payments, to help prevent abuse
#1527 [18:44] <Guest594> is this on paypal?
#1528 [18:44] <Guest594> paypal has a 24 hour delay?
#1529 [18:45] <DiskDaemon> I'm not entirely sure about paypal, but that does seem to be the case with moneybookers
#1530 [18:45] <Guest594> ok,
#1531 [18:46] <DiskDaemon> Does it say why it's declining?
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#1538 [18:59] <snuggles08> i need help fixing a crash: IllegalArgumentException: n must be positive
#1539 [19:00] <DiskDaemon> Please use pastebin.com to paste the full details of the crash report
#1540 [19:03] <snuggles08> http://pastebin.com/PsPnSZEN
#1541 [19:05] <DiskDaemon> We don't provide support for snapshot versions in here. Do you have the same problem with a vanilla install of 1.3.2 ?
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#1543 [19:08] <snuggles08> Yes
#1544 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> May we please see the crash report for that one?
#1545 [19:09] <snuggles08> http://pastebin.com/PsPnSZEN
#1546 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> That's for "Minecraft Version: 12w34b" which we don't support here, sorry.
#1547 [19:12] <snuggles08> http://pastebin.com/yMCBpEQt
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#1551 [19:12] <zen> O.o
#1552 [19:13] <zen> snuggles08: reinstall java
#1553 [19:13] <DiskDaemon> Thanks
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#1558 [19:15] <Guest95176> Does anyone know a good youtube video for installing mods
#1559 [19:15] <DiskDaemon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXP_H4ryjlM
#1560 [19:16] <Guest95176> thx
#1561 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> I hope that's not Goodness Graciouss Me again
#1562 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> Bumtiddy boomtiddy bumtiddy
#1563 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> Or however it went.
#1564 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> There's also http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
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#1566 [19:20] <NinjaKirby> lol...
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#1569 [19:21] <dawdlingidiot> I am running a technic/bukkit server with quite several additional plugins and terrain generators. What is the best way to keep track of version updates for the various plugins?
#1570 [19:22] <DiskDaemon> The people in #bukkit should be able to help with that
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#1572 [19:23] <dawdlingidiot> OK. Thanks DiskDaemon.
#1573 [19:23] <Vervada> Hello everybody, I've got a problem, I just downloaded Minecraft but just after I log in in the launcher I've got a black screen. That's strange because Minecraft used to work fine on my computer
#1574 [19:24] <Vervada> (I'm on Linux an yes I've got the latest OpenJDK installed)
#1575 [19:24] <DiskDaemon> Vervada: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1576 [19:25] <Kanegasi> in the f3 stats, is the P value my latency?
#1577 [19:26] <Kanegasi> nevermind, thats particles. i found the wiki page
#1578 [19:26] <Vervada> Ok, I've got the log
#1579 [19:27] <Vervada> Exception in thread "Thread-3" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/saul/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: libjawt.so: Cannot open shared object file: no file or directory at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary0(ClassLoader.java:1924) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1821) at java.lang.Runtime.load0(Runtime.java:792) at java.lang.Syst
#1580 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> Please paste the contents of the log to pastebin
#1581 [19:28] <Vervada> Oh, ok
#1582 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#1583 [19:28] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1585 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> Vervada: Are you using linux? If so, I'm not so good with helping with that, but someone else here might be
#1586 [19:29] <Vervada> Yes I am, I think i said it earlier
#1587 [19:29] <zen> Vervada: you need to update lwjgl
#1588 [19:29] <zen> Vervada: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#1589 [19:30] <Vervada> Thanks, I'll try that
#1590 [19:30] <zen> DiskDaemon: anyone running ubuntu has too, because ubuntu is a POS
#1591 [19:31] <Vervada> This is a new problem ? Because I never had any problems before
#1592 [19:32] <zen> Vervada: ever used ubuntu before?
#1593 [19:33] <Vervada> Yes, I always use Ubuntu
#1594 [19:33] <zen> Hmm okay maybe you got lucky in the paste
#1595 [19:33] <zen> past*
#1596 [19:33] <Vervada> Until July I could play Minecraft without problems and now there's that
#1597 [19:33] <Vervada> Hmm, maybe
#1598 [19:34] <zen> Either way, update lwjgl and it should be fixed
#1599 [19:34] <Vervada> I'm working on it
#1600 [19:37] <Vervada> Ok, I did it and it seems to work
#1601 [19:38] <Vervada> Thanks a lot
#1602 [19:38] <Vervada> You've really been helpful
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#1606 [19:40] <Albear> I need help with making a server
#1607 [19:41] <Albear> I have made one using craftbukkit but it will not let me build OR BREAK
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#1613 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> Albear: Please go to #bukkit for help with bukkit-releated issues
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#1618 [19:54] <IQ> Whenever i try to go on a server it shows me this "java.net.unknownhostexception:session.minecraft.net" what can i do to get back online?
#1619 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> Try this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#UnknownHostException:_session.minecraft.net
#1620 [19:55] <IQ> thanks
#1621 [19:57] <IQ> but it only gives help for windows
#1622 [19:57] <IQ> i have a mac
#1623 [19:57] <IQ> could i just reinstall minecraft?
#1624 [19:58] <DiskDaemon> I don't think that Minecraft is your problem. It seems that your problem is that your ISP DNS settings for session.minecraft.net are out of date.
#1625 [19:59] <IQ> well what can i do about it?
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#1627 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> You can reinstall of course though, but I don't think that will help with that particular issue
#1628 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> ?? mac/reinst
#1629 [19:59] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1630 [19:59] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1632 [19:59] <IQ> thanks!
#1633 [20:00] <DiskDaemon> Let me knwo when that doesn't work for you
#1634 [20:02] <IQ> still doesnt work
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#1636 [20:03] <IQ> any other advice?
#1637 [20:03] <DiskDaemon> Thought not. Change your DNS server instead
#1638 [20:03] <DiskDaemon> http://www.plus.net/support/software/dns/changing_dns_mac.shtml
#1639 [20:04] <DiskDaemon> I suggest using the OpenDNS ones, which are 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
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#1641 [20:09] <IQ> should i use both of them at the ssame time or just 1?
#1642 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> Yes, use both of them. The first one is the primary, and the second one is the secondary
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#1646 [20:16] <leo3604> whenever i click on the minecraft icon, it says that it cannot create java virtual machine. how do i fix this?
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#1648 [20:17] <leo3604> whenever i click on the minecraft icon, it says that it cannot create java virtual machine. how do i fix this?
#1649 [20:19] <leo3604> hello?
#1650 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> You may be using an incompatible version of Java. That is, a 32-bit version on a 64-bit operating system
#1651 [20:20] <DiskDaemon> You can get the 64-bit version, I believe, from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#1652 [20:21] <leo3604> ok i will try and install it
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#1656 [20:23] <Oxymoron> Just wondering. For the updates for 1.3 is says that there was a "Play Demo" button for non premium users. I don't see that option when logging in.
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#1658 [20:23] <DiskDaemon> ?? demo
#1659 [20:23] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
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#1661 [20:25] <Oxymoron> I have a "Play Offline" button. But I can only play 1.2.5.
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#1664 [20:26] <nt4cats> The top-most bug on the wiki is titled "[!!] In creative mode, I press E, then it crashes. This all started to happen after the latest update." I am seeing the same thing. It it helpful for me to add my crash log as a comment?
#1665 [20:27] <Grim> #help
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#1667 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> If a crash log is not already there, then it may be useful, yes.
#1668 [20:29] <DiskDaemon> I'd take that question to #minecraftwiki though, because they could best answer it there
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#1670 [20:29] <nt4cats> There is a crash log there -- and my stack trace is identical (I'm a Java developer since ~1998, so I'm qualified to say so) ... but my environment is different.
#1671 [20:30] <nt4cats> actually 1997, now that I think of it, I went to JavaOne in 1998 ...
#1672 [20:30] <nt4cats> :)
#1673 [20:30] <DiskDaemon> One should be enough then.
#1674 [20:30] <nt4cats> okay, I'll ask over there. I'm trying to be a good citizen.
#1675 [20:31] <DiskDaemon> Thank you citizen for your participation :)
#1676 [20:31] <oldtopman> nt4cats: Going to ask the obvious here, but have you tried changing the keybingings for the inventory?
#1677 [20:31] <oldtopman> keybindings*
#1678 [20:33] <nt4cats> oldtopman: that isn't obvious to me ... I'm not a minecraft player. I'm a computer geek programmer who also happens to be a Dad ... and my Son & Daughter are the Minecraft players in the house
#1679 [20:33] <nt4cats> It looks like something I'd enjoy a lot, but I've been avoiding getting sucked in
#1680 [20:33] <oldtopman> heh
#1681 [20:34] <oldtopman> nt4cats: Well, it's worth a shot.
#1682 [20:34] <nt4cats> The boy is sad that it keeps crashing, I told him I'd look at it. Saw the crash log, checked the wiki, now I'm here.
#1683 [20:34] <oldtopman> I've used I for inventory, that's what it was back in my day.
#1684 [20:34] <oldtopman> Back before 1.8B
#1685 [20:34] <oldtopman> Hmm
#1686 [20:34] <oldtopman> nt4cats: Well, you're alright in my book, for being civil, for typing properly, and for knowing how to understand a crash.
#1687 [20:35] <nt4cats> and I appreciate you guys being helpful and not just assuming I'm ignorant :)
#1688 [20:35] <nt4cats> and I appreciate you guys being helpful and not just assuming I'm ignorant :)
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#1692 [20:37] <nt4cats> I will try changing key bindings to see if that helps. I appreciate the tip.
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#1694 [20:38] <leo3604> it still doesnt work
#1695 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Try uninstalling java completely. Reinstall with java 6 instead.
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#1697 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> You can grab java 6 from: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
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#1699 [20:40] <DiskDaemon> We don't even know if he was running it with the 64-bit version after the install, but carry on\
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#1702 [20:42] <Wesley> im using Verified by Visa to pay for Minecraft and the purchase website says my card was rejected, but when I go to my Verified by Visa account it shows up as billed there for 26.95, and i dont have membership yet
#1703 [20:43] <henry> hellow
#1704 [20:43] <henry> i need help
#1705 [20:44] <henry> can anyone help me?
#1706 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Wesley - Try calling customer support on the back of your Visa to confirm that payment was made.
#1707 [20:45] <henry> me? no i bought the game and i got a black screen on game it wont let me play on it
#1708 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> henry - Not you.
#1709 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> henry - If you elaborate on your problem, one of us might be able to help
#1710 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> henry - Have you ever been able to play before?
#1711 [20:46] <henry> yes on demo
#1712 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> The current demo at minecraft.net/demo?
#1713 [20:46] <henry> yes
#1714 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Try doing a force update through the launcher's options menu, before you log in
#1715 [20:47] <Wesley> i doubt this counts as "emergency assistance"
#1716 [20:47] <Wesley> and my credit union is closed
#1717 [20:47] <henry> now that i bought the full version it wont let me play on it just comes out a black screen and nothing
#1718 [20:48] <leo3604> i installed java 6 and deleted all the older javas and it still says "cannon create java virtual machine"
#1719 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Wesley - I'd confirm that payment was made. Since Mojang doesn't do payment processing directly, you would either call your bank to confirm payment, or paypal/moneybookers for payment troubleshooting
#1720 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> leo3604 - What operating system are you on? How much RAM do you have?
#1721 [20:50] <leo3604> i am running windows xp service pack 3, i have 3gb of RAM
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#1723 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> leo3604 - So you installed the Windows x86 version of java from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html ?
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#1725 [20:51] <leo3604> yessir
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#1727 [20:52] <Heatedunderwear> Is anyone here fluent with macs?
#1728 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Can you confirm that java 6 is the sole java installed in your add/remove programs list?
#1729 [20:53] <Wesley> greyvulpine, if i wait an hour and i get my membership, can i assumed that the transaction went through?
#1730 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Wesley - Sure.
#1731 [20:53] <leo3604> alright one sec
#1732 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Heatedunderwear - If you perhaps tell us your problem, we may or may not have a solution already for you
#1733 [20:53] <Wesley> because the verified by visa website has an attention that says "the transaction history may occasionally list purchases that have been subsequently cancelled, declined or refunded"
#1734 [20:53] <Heatedunderwear> Everytime I log in the screen goes black then crashes
#1735 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Heatedunderwear - Got any error/crash reports?
#1736 [20:54] <leo3604> yessir i have it, it says java 6 update 34
#1737 [20:54] <Heatedunderwear> yea I can start it up and have it crash to get one if you'd like
#1738 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Wesley - I'd wait, call your bank again in the morning to confirm the transaction. If it was cancelled, you can try again
#1739 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Heatedunderwear - Please do. Copy the error to www.pastebin.com , submit it, and give us the URL so that we may read it
#1740 [20:55] <Wesley> i tried three times, all three times it was rejected, but it shows up on my verified by visa transaction history
#1741 [20:55] <Wesley> it doesnt show up on my online banking history thoug
#1742 [20:55] <Heatedunderwear> I got a crash report now
#1743 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Wesley - Then this is definitely something to bring up with your bank. Also ask if you need to verbally confirm that you need to authorize an international payment.
#1744 [20:55] <Grim> Wesley: Most EFT systems Poll authority instantly but don;t make the transaction for 24 hours.
#1745 [20:56] <Wesley> ......but why
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#1747 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Wesley - Many banks have an automatic anti-fraud feature that declines international payments (Mojang is based in Sweden) for the safety of its customers
#1748 [20:56] <Wesley> it said that it was cancelled.....
#1749 [20:56] <Wesley> it better not be charging me 26.95x3 at 8:50PM tomorrow
#1750 [20:56] <Heatedunderwear> anyone know the select all and copy keyboard shortcuts for mac?
#1751 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Heatedunderwear - Just command+A and command+C
#1752 [20:57] <leo3604> i have java 6 update 34 it says
#1753 [20:57] <Heatedunderwear> lol first day with a mac I keep trying ctrl
#1754 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Heatedunderwear - Haven't used a mac in probably more than a decade.
#1755 [20:57] <Grim> Wesley: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329760-i%E2%80%99ve-been-charged-more-than-once-
#1756 [20:57] <Heatedunderwear> http://pastebin.com/0RfSXWKJ
#1757 [20:57] <Grim> if that has happened
#1758 [20:57] <Heatedunderwear> that's my crash
#1759 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> leo3604 - Try uninstalling java. Then use javaRA to remove any traces of java. You can get JavaRA from:
#1760 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> ??> leo3604 win/javara
#1761 [20:58] <VoxelHead> leo3604: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1762 [20:58] <VoxelHead> leo3604: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
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#1764 [20:58] <Wesley> thanks grim
#1765 [20:58] <leo3604> i'll give it a crack
#1766 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I believe that's a java error on macs. Reinstall java, Heatedunderwear.
#1767 [20:59] <Wesley> grim, my account still says i need to buy an accountt to change my skin
#1768 [20:59] <Wesley> so i'm assuming it didnt go through but i dont know....maybe it's just delayed
#1769 [20:59] <Heatedunderwear> I reinstalled it already
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#1771 [20:59] <Heatedunderwear> I'll try again though
#1772 [21:00] <Wesley> oh
#1773 [21:00] <Wesley> apparently, if a successful payment is made, i will receive an email
#1774 [21:00] <Grim> Wesley: Either way it is the waiting game, I would consider firing a mail to support @ Mojang through the link I gave you, then contacting your bank in business hours
#1775 [21:01] <Wesley> i have not received an email
#1776 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Remember that Mojang doesn't deal with payments directly.
#1777 [21:01] <Wesley> god, anxiety makes this unbearable
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#1779 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> And that Mojang has a 3 month backlog of support tickets
#1780 [21:01] <Grim> Heatedunderwear: I think well I know this is a LWJGL issue, on the AWT dependency's for OpneGL.
#1781 [21:02] <Wesley> oh god, that's awful
#1782 [21:02] <Heatedunderwear> that made no sense to me D=
#1783 [21:02] <Grim> Wesley: although thay are pretty good at getting back to genuine problems..
#1784 [21:02] <Wesley> i dont want to have 26.95x3 tied up by a freaking support ticket for three months because moneybookers screwed up
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#1786 [21:03] <Grim> I am not an expert on macs or a guru with JAva.
#1787 [21:03] <Coll> anyone here pretty versed in forum software?
#1788 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> partly
#1789 [21:04] <Grim> Wesley: that is why you will want to get the mail to them now, contact your bank in the morning, if you have not received a mail that is pretty good indicator your transaction has not been processed.
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#1791 [21:04] <Heatedunderwear> reinstall of java did not work
#1792 [21:04] <leo3604> Dang! i ran JavaRA and it said it cleaned a removed any trace of it, I deleted java and reinstalled java6
#1793 [21:04] <Grim> Heatedunderwear: I might try making sure JAva is up to date
#1794 [21:04] <Grim> I could check for you but I am lazy
#1795 [21:05] <Coll> looking to change from SMF not really sure what to go with atm
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#1799 [21:05] <Wesley> i dont have a "transaction ID"
#1800 [21:05] <Heatedunderwear> Grim I just did fresh update found it on their website a few minutes ago
#1801 [21:06] <tyler626734> i downloaded minecraft from minecraft.net and my laptop keeps saying its damaged and i have deleted it and redownloaded it a million times and im running on a macbook-air with 4gb of ram and i am running on mountain lion osx
#1802 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1803 [21:06] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1804 [21:07] <Wesley> any non app store program.....
#1805 [21:07] <Wesley> this is why i dislike Apple @_@
#1806 [21:07] <Wesley> Grim, how do I send Mojang an email if i dont have a transaction ID?
#1807 [21:07] <tyler626734> thank you
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#1809 [21:08] <Grim> heat http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1446755-bad-video-card-drivers-131/
#1810 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> Coll: I suggest that you make enquiries in forums such as http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?62-Web-Development-Software
#1811 [21:09] <Grim> I kow that is relating to XP, however it has to be down to your Graphics card drivers. I am not sure of the update process for graphics drivers in relation to apple PCs.
#1812 [21:09] <Coll> oh well it is for our minecraft community figure someone here might be able to recommend me something
#1813 [21:09] <Grim> Wesley: then wait contact your bank, if they offer 24 hour tele banking call them now,..
#1814 [21:09] <Heatedunderwear> I know nothing about my graphics card or drivers
#1815 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> mediawiki seems to be a popular one in that type of area
#1816 [21:10] <leo3604> i am determine to get this working, i havnt played Pc minecraft in like forever...only been playing 360minecraft as a last resort
#1817 [21:11] <Heatedunderwear> I own mobile,pc, and 360 mine craft D= I've never had an issue until this stupid mac
#1818 [21:12] <Heatedunderwear> could a system update fix it?
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#1820 [21:13] <Grim> let me continue to research this for you, it apears to be either an issue with Java 1.70_06, or OSX 10.8.1 or your graphics drivers.
#1821 [21:13] <Grim> Was there a recent OSX update?
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#1823 [21:14] <leo3604> for windows xp?
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#1828 [21:16] <Heatedunderwear> Did system update crashed again -.-
#1829 [21:17] <Grim> Yeah hold fire..
#1830 [21:17] <Grim> lets stick with one problem before you possibly create 10 more.
#1831 [21:17] <Grim> Navigate to Applications/Utilities/System Profiler"
#1832 [21:18] <leo3604> ok i think it is working
#1833 [21:18] <Heatedunderwear> me or someone else?
#1834 [21:18] <Grim> Heatedunderwear:
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#1836 [21:18] <Grim> or else Click the Apple icon at the top left of your screen, and select About this Mac
#1837 [21:18] <Grim> or about this computer
#1838 [21:19] <Heatedunderwear> I don't have a system profiler but I got about this mac
#1839 [21:19] <Grim> Click the Apple icon at the top left of your screen, and select About this Mac
#1840 [21:19] <Heatedunderwear> done
#1841 [21:19] <Grim> And tell me does it mention a graphics card, as I said I do not use macs..
#1842 [21:20] <Heatedunderwear> nope it has a display tab though
#1843 [21:20] <Heatedunderwear> Intel HD Graphics 4000 512 MB graphics
#1844 [21:20] <Grim> what happens when we click on the display tab?
#1845 [21:20] <Heatedunderwear> tells me Intel HD Graphics 4000 512 MB graphics
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#1847 [21:22] <Heatedunderwear> pretty much it though
#1848 [21:22] <Heatedunderwear> oh and it says my resolution
#1849 [21:23] <Grim> Have you upgraded the MAc at all?
#1850 [21:24] <Heatedunderwear> not myself but I switched to the 8gb of ram
#1851 [21:24] <Heatedunderwear> I just got the mac today
#1852 [21:25] <Grim> Can you give me the make and model?
#1853 [21:25] <Grim> siorry Model
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#1855 [21:26] <Heatedunderwear> where do I find that?
#1856 [21:26] <Grim> Is it a mac book..
#1857 [21:26] <Grim> Imac
#1858 [21:26] <Grim> mac pro
#1859 [21:26] <Heatedunderwear> macbook pro
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#1862 [21:27] <Grim> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
#1863 [21:28] <Grim> please go here follow instructions and get back to me else.
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#1865 [21:28] <Heatedunderwear> kay I'll try
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#1867 [21:29] <conman> hello I need help
#1868 [21:29] <conman> hello
#1869 [21:30] <conman> hello
#1870 [21:31] <Grim> Ask someone might respond.
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#1872 [21:32] <DiskDaemon> ?? dont/pm
#1873 [21:32] <VoxelHead> dont/pm: We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1874 [21:33] <DiskDaemon> conman: In the channel please, where people can see.
#1875 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> conman: Stop sending me private messages!
#1876 [21:34] <Coll> love when people come onto your server
#1877 [21:34] <Grim> Heatedunderwear: any joy?
#1878 [21:34] <Coll> and spam with advertisements
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#1880 [21:35] <Heatedunderwear> no I don't know what graphics card I got :/ and it doesn't support mac os to find out
#1881 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> conman: Right now you are whispering in my ear... and he left
#1882 [21:35] <Grim> aye I am finding this out for myself so it is all good :)
#1883 [21:35] <Grim> Sorry as I said Ia m not a guru
#1884 [21:36] <Gilded_Knight> so, how would i go about fixing a socket exeption?
#1885 [21:37] <Heatedunderwear> that's okay doesn't look like there's any mac drivers on the nvidea website
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#1887 [21:39] <Grim> Right I think I might ahve a solution Ia m sorry Heatedunderwear .. We are going to need to find your options.txt
#1888 [21:39] <Grim> and it might not be there.. so bear with me.
#1889 [21:39] <Grim> Heatedunderwear:
#1890 [21:39] <Heatedunderwear> okay
#1891 [21:39] <Heatedunderwear> direct me to where it might be
#1892 [21:39] <Grim> In Mac OS X, the minecraft data folder is located in your Username > Library > Application Support folder. You can get here quickly by opening Finder > Go > Go To Folder > type ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft.
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#1896 [21:42] <Heatedunderwear> I found the folder
#1897 [21:42] <Grim> in the folder do you have a file called options?
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#1899 [21:42] <Heatedunderwear> nope bin crash-reports and lastlogin
#1900 [21:43] <Grim> ok open bin pls
#1901 [21:43] <Heatedunderwear> opened
#1902 [21:43] <Grim> Humor me can you "right" click on minecraft.jar for me?
#1903 [21:44] <Heatedunderwear> I'm on a mac so no not really LOL
#1904 [21:44] <Grim> But it should be possibel to bring up a sub/options menu?
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#1906 [21:44] <Heatedunderwear> yes I can anything specific I am looking for?
#1907 [21:45] <Grim> Reference to openGL
#1908 [21:45] <Grim> You want to switch it off..
#1909 [21:45] <Grim> else iff come back out and do the same fro your "desktop" icon.
#1910 [21:46] <Grim> if that fails then I have to admit defeat, or keeping you from getting better help and advice.
#1911 [21:47] <Grim> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1260921-bad-video-card-drivers-strange-error/ Heatedunderwear
#1912 [21:47] <Grim> is all I am getting ..
#1913 [21:48] <Grim> so if you happy I am happy to continue to try to find a resolve.
#1914 [21:48] <Heatedunderwear> okay well thank you for trying
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#1916 [21:50] <Grim> I will continue.. happily :)
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#1918 [21:51] <Gilded_Knight> i wonder...
#1919 [21:51] <Grim> Heatedunderwear: And you have removed minecraft completely already?
#1920 [21:51] <Grim> and reinstalled?
#1921 [21:51] <Gilded_Knight> ??> SocketException
#1922 [21:51] <Gilded_Knight> nope...
#1923 [21:52] <Heatedunderwear> yea but I'll try everything twice
#1924 [21:52] <Heatedunderwear> yea but I'll try everything twice
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#1927 [21:53] <Grim> Gilded night are you getting that whilst rying to connect to a multplayer server?
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#1929 [21:54] <Heatedunderwear> grim, it made it farther that time but then crashed
#1930 [21:54] <Grim> You know how I got you to goto the minecraft folder...
#1931 [21:55] <Heatedunderwear> yea
#1932 [21:55] <Grim> Cna you go there and delete everything in the minecraft folder.
#1933 [21:55] <Grim> Then re-download.
#1934 [21:55] <Grim> and try that one mroe time for me.
#1935 [21:56] <Heatedunderwear> that's what I did O.o
#1936 [21:56] <Heatedunderwear> delete everything then redownload the client and try again?
#1937 [21:56] <Grim> Ok so all files where deleted just checking.
#1938 [21:56] <Grim> Yes all traces of.
#1939 [21:56] <Grim> might be a pointless exorcise.
#1940 [21:56] <Grim> but give it a hot.
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#1943 [21:58] <Grim> Then clutching at straws can we Can you open up the Java Preferences app (should be located in Applications > Utilities).
#1944 [21:58] <Grim> If you have Java SE 7 listed as well as SE 6, try dragging the SE 7 versions below the SE 6 ones in the list. Then try Minecraft again.
#1945 [22:00] <Heatedunderwear> deleting everything
#1946 [22:00] <Heatedunderwear> did not work
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#1949 [22:01] <Darkenvy> Hello
#1950 [22:01] <Heatedunderwear> I got java SE 6 64 bit and 32 bit
#1951 [22:01] <Darkenvy> I am unable to Noclip now that I have zombe installed. I Used to be able to noclip with zombe
#1952 [22:01] <Darkenvy> It is important to me for my creative redstone projects
#1953 [22:01] <Grim> we laready updated JAva corrct?
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#1955 [22:02] <Heatedunderwear> yup
#1956 [22:02] <Heatedunderwear> 3 times or so
#1957 [22:03] <Grim> If you already updated java I can only suggest trying this next http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
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#1963 [22:05] <Heatedunderwear> donno what this is exactly but I'll try it lol
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#1966 [22:07] <Softfang> I want to know why the browser version of Minecraft on your website keeps auto-pausing every couple minutes at random. I'm not hitting Esc or anything of the sort. It just... pauses randomly and it's quite annoying.
#1967 [22:08] <Grim> Softfang: Have you checked your network traffic?
#1968 [22:08] <Softfang> No, I haven't. I'm not entirely sure how to do that.
#1969 [22:09] <Darkenvy> Can someone help me with my noclip whoes?
#1970 [22:09] <Grim> AddBOT Delay 2 minutes Shoot Digital love load into internet.
#1971 [22:09] <Grim> Let me check browser version my end.
#1972 [22:10] <Softfang> I'm not even on regular mode. I have it set to peaceful mode.
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#1974 [22:10] <FroastJ> I migrated to a Mojang account to update my email, but I don't like signing in with my email on normal minecraft. Can I change this?
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#1976 [22:12] <Grim> Softfang: is working OK for me..
#1977 [22:12] <Grim> I might be inclined to reset my internet connection and then try again.
#1978 [22:12] <Softfang> Hm...
#1979 [22:12] <Softfang> Hm...
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#1982 [22:15] <Grim> Heatedunderwear: any joy?
#1983 [22:15] <Heatedunderwear> I had a smoke and got a beer if that counts LOL
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#1985 [22:16] <Grim> :)
#1986 [22:16] <Heatedunderwear> I accidently got the source instead of the file
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#1989 [22:17] <Grim> liblwjgl.jnilib
#1990 [22:17] <Grim> libjinput-osx.jnilib
#1991 [22:17] <Grim> openal.dylib
#1992 [22:17] <Grim> libopenal.dylib
#1993 [22:18] <FroastJ> I migrated to a Mojang account to change my email, but I don't like logging in with my email on normal minecraft. Is there anything I can do?
#1994 [22:18] <ultrastank> whats up
#1995 [22:18] <Grim> .
#1996 [22:18] <Heatedunderwear> grim I don't know what I'm doing here
#1997 [22:18] <FroastJ> ...
#1998 [22:18] <Heatedunderwear> I'm looking at the files and don't know where to copy them
#1999 [22:19] <Grim> liblwjgl.jnilib libjinput-osx.jnilib openal.dylib libopenal.dylib
#2000 [22:19] <Grim> did you get these files?
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#2002 [22:19] <Heatedunderwear> yes I believe
#2003 [22:19] <ultrastank> trying to make payment 4 m.c useing paypal there saying theres problem on yr side, who would i email about this problem
#2004 [22:20] <Heatedunderwear> I can find 3 of them
#2005 [22:20] <Grim> In Mac OS X, the minecraft data folder is located in your Username > Library > Application Support folder. You can get here quickly by opening Finder > Go > Go To Folder >
#2006 [22:20] <Grim> is all you need
#2007 [22:20] <Grim> type ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft. For future reference,
#2008 [22:21] <Grim> it's best to make an alias for this folder and copy it to your desktop.
#2009 [22:21] <Heatedunderwear> I have that open but where in the minecraft folder do I put them?
#2010 [22:21] <Grim> Mountain Lion hides the user's Library folder. Hold down the option key and see the Library item appear in the GO menu.
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#2015 [22:22] <Grim> now in bin
#2016 [22:22] <Grim> GOTO BIN
#2017 [22:22] <Grim> I And replace jinput.jar
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#2019 [22:22] <Grim> lwjgl.jar
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#2021 [22:22] <Grim> lwjgl_util.jar
#2022 [22:22] <Darkenvy> Does anyone know why I cant noclip in single player?
#2023 [22:23] <Grim> Oh bin/natives
#2024 [22:23] <Grim> sorry .. Heatedunderwear
#2025 [22:24] <gv> Noclip isn't available as a vanilla function
#2026 [22:24] <Grim> So you in bin/ natives.
#2027 [22:24] <Heatedunderwear> copied that
#2028 [22:24] <Grim> replace the files with the new files
#2029 [22:24] <Grim> then try again.
#2030 [22:24] <Heatedunderwear> kay shall try
#2031 [22:25] <Heatedunderwear> crashed before opening
#2032 [22:25] <Grim> error report?
#2033 [22:26] <Grim> if it is same as before it has to be a driver issue.
#2034 [22:26] <Darkenvy> gv, how can I enable it?
#2035 [22:26] <Darkenvy> gv, I should mention im using zombe
#2036 [22:26] <Grim> as I stated .. somwhere in the past.
#2037 [22:26] <Heatedunderwear> MinecraftLauncher quit unexpectedly while using the libjvm.dylib plug-in.
#2038 [22:27] <Darkenvy> I've used zombe for as long as I can remember, and from 1.2.5 to 1.3 I can no longer noclip. It is resetting me as if im trying to noclip in SMP
#2039 [22:27] <gv> I'm not familiar with zombez mod pack. Sorry.
#2040 [22:27] <Darkenvy> it allows you to noclip
#2041 [22:27] <Darkenvy> It IS doing its job. Ic an noclip for about 200ms. However the game keeps resetting my potision
#2042 [22:27] <Grim> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/94310-125-single-player-commands-v322-official-download/
#2043 [22:28] <Grim> OK your going to hate me here Heatedunderwear but delete everything and reinstal
#2044 [22:29] <Heatedunderwear> *sigh*
#2045 [22:30] <Grim> I am sorry mac support on forums is sporadic at best..
#2046 [22:30] <Heatedunderwear> crashed again
#2047 [22:31] <Heatedunderwear> as per usual -.-
#2048 [22:31] <Grim> Although I can see others with same issue all fixes they have tried are not working for you.
#2049 [22:31] <Grim> Assuming you have run all possible updates from apple.
#2050 [22:31] <Heatedunderwear> yup
#2051 [22:31] <Heatedunderwear> and java
#2052 [22:32] <Heatedunderwear> I wish I could have nice things :( that worked :(
#2053 [22:33] <Grim> проблемы с OpenGL и видимо с текстур-паком оО насчет второго не уверен, но OpenGL явно
#2054 [22:33] <Grim> and Russionas not helping
#2055 [22:34] <Heatedunderwear> LOL probably not
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#2057 [22:34] <fiendragon> yo
#2058 [22:34] <fiendragon> who's up?
#2059 [22:34] <fiendragon> need help accessing minecraft.
#2060 [22:35] <Heatedunderwear> ask and maybe someone has an answer
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#2063 [22:36] <fiendragon> password is saved on my laptop. i wanted to change the skin so i went to the minecraft site and clicked profile but i cant remember my password. also the email that i think i used to sign up is no longer available because someone hacked it. it was a yahoo email address and now i use gmail.
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#2065 [22:36] <Grim> Heatedunderwear: can you completely uninstall java and reinstall please?
#2066 [22:36] <fiendragon> i really really dont want to re-purchase the game
#2067 [22:36] <Grim> Also, sell your Mac and get something that isn't over quadruple the price it should be.
#2068 [22:36] <Grim> :p
#2069 [22:37] <Heatedunderwear> I need it for school lol I'm in graphic design
#2070 [22:37] <Heatedunderwear> sure how?
#2071 [22:37] <fiendragon> tried to find an email on the site to email someone about it but couldnt find any.
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#2073 [22:38] <gv> B
#2074 [22:38] <fiendragon> no suggestions then, eh{
#2075 [22:38] <gv> Bunch of articles on account issues at http://help.mojang.com
#2076 [22:39] <gv> Several of them link to the support ticket form
#2077 [22:39] <fiendragon> maybe i didnt look hard enough. :\
#2078 [22:39] <gv> You'll have to use that to get in contact with mojang
#2079 [22:40] <Grim> Heatedunderwear: http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/24131/uninstalling-java-on-lion
#2080 [22:40] <Grim> and then re-instal from... http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=67389
#2081 [22:41] <Heatedunderwear> even browser minecraft crashes on me! D=
#2082 [22:41] <Grim> Yup is an openGL issue, but I am now hoping it is a Java issue not a driver issue.
#2083 [22:42] <Grim> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/graphics/updatemac.html
#2084 [22:42] <Grim> for you also Heatedunderwear
#2085 [22:43] <Grim> Try all this and get back to me.. I need coffeeee
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#2087 [22:46] <fiendragon> ok thanks a lot guys. even by making me feel blind/stupid you have helped me. i am a firm believer in constructive criticism so thanks again and feel free to make fun of me for not finding the email links. goodnight.
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#2090 [22:47] <Heatedunderwear> so if it's my drivers how do I fix this?
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#2092 [22:48] <Grim> Well your stuck with http://www.apple.com/support/complimentary/ if it is.
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#2094 [22:49] <Grim> but lets try all the above first.
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#2096 [22:50] <Grim> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/graphics/updatemac.html most importantly this..
#2097 [22:50] <Grim> See if you have a lil nviidia in there..
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#2101 [22:54] <Heatedunderwear> nope all intel apparently
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#2103 [22:55] <Grim> Got a name for the Intel 4400?
#2104 [22:55] <Heatedunderwear> I'm to tired for this I'm going to bed thank you for the help grim have a good night
#2105 [22:55] <ihdcool09> Hello
#2106 [22:55] <Grim> np sorry I will continue to look for solution.
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#2111 [23:01] <ihdcool09> Hello
#2112 [23:01] <ihdcool09> again
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#2129 [23:55] <Grim> this does not present a solution, this appears to be a Java/OpenGL issue, a LWJGL/AWT dependency issue program fails after LWJGL is invoked my finger points at the jawt native not being loaded. It could be that the library name is not mapped hence why the above solution using the libname isn't working. would welcome some feedback.
#2130 [23:56] <Smanly> Wait, what?
#2131 [23:56] <Grim> http://pastebin.com/0RfSXWKJ
#2132 [23:56] <Smanly> Oh...
#2133 [23:57] * Smanly has no idea
#2133 [23:57] <Grim> I could use a more verbose Error report + access to source code for Minecraft..
#2134 [23:57] <Grim> But heh.lol
#2135 [23:59] <Grim> <project name="LWJGL" default="all" basedir=".">