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#2 [00:05] <Grim> Maybe someone could inform Markus and he might be tempted to spend some of his millions financing the development with a contractor?
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#4 [00:06] <Smanly> Which one is Markus?
#5 [00:06] <Smanly> I dunno all of the mojang team.
#6 [00:07] <Smanly> His name sounds familiar though.
#7 [00:07] <Grim> IDK
#8 [00:07] <Grim> Just google him
#9 [00:07] <Smanly> You should ask the Notch guy.
#10 [00:08] <Smanly> I don't think markus even workd on MC. Who is he?
#11 [00:08] <Grim> Now I am completely lost, is this not Bethesda channel... oops.
#12 [00:08] <Smanly> lol whuwat
#13 [00:11] <Smanly> Everytime I see "Director of Fun" I just... Wat.
#14 [00:11] <Grim> eek.
#15 [00:13] <Grim> I saw her original uploads to Youtube.
#16 [00:13] <Smanly> yeah...
#17 [00:14] <Smanly> I just... I dont understand.
#18 [00:14] <Grim> What do you not understand?
#19 [00:14] <Smanly> How just how.
#20 [00:14] <Smanly> She didnt know how to move.
#21 [00:14] <Grim> http://www.youtube.com/user/MinecraftChick
#22 [00:15] <Smanly> Wth are those particles comming off of the NPCs?
#23 [00:16] <Smanly> She still doesnt seem to know how to play. :/
#24 [00:16] <Grim> IS there a way to play?
#25 [00:17] <Smanly> Lol, yeah I guess you have a point.
#26 [00:18] <Grim> Your having "fun" I am having "fun" ok so I wet myself when server lag landed you in lava... and the language you used to describe your frustration.. but it was all fun fun fun.,
#27 [00:18] <Grim> on a side not this is serving as a distraction.
#28 [00:18] <Smanly> No u
#29 [00:18] <Smanly> No u
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#33 [00:22] <Grim> I love bug hunting opens so many new rich and exciting things to confuse the hell outta me.
#34 [00:23] <Smanly> \o/
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#37 [00:47] <Grim> Well minecraft help has gone deadly silent..
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#39 [00:55] <Smanly> shh
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#44 [01:06] <Ahmad_TufTuf> Hello
#45 [01:06] <Ahmad_TufTuf> I back
#46 [01:06] <Ahmad_TufTuf> i need hekp :'(
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#48 [01:06] <Ahmad_TufTuf> Help :'(
#49 [01:08] <Ahmad_TufTuf> i play mine craft...
#50 [01:08] <Grim> Ask question :)
#51 [01:08] <Ahmad_TufTuf> and them.... is stuck in loading game
#52 [01:09] <Ahmad_TufTuf> i play demo.
#53 [01:09] <Ahmad_TufTuf> that word.. DONE LOADING
#54 [01:09] <Ahmad_TufTuf> but never finish
#55 [01:09] <Ahmad_TufTuf> how to fix that?
#56 [01:11] <Grim> HAve you tried clearing your Appdata?
#57 [01:11] <Grim> What is your operating system?
#58 [01:11] <Ahmad_TufTuf> wait
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#60 [01:12] <Ahmad_TufTuf> i tried clean the app data
#61 [01:12] <Ahmad_TufTuf> what your mean operating system?
#62 [01:13] <Grim> Are you using windows Vista?
#63 [01:13] <Grim> XP
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#65 [01:13] <Grim> 7
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#67 [01:14] <Grim> Have you tried a fresh instal of the game> Ahmad_TufTuf ?
#68 [01:15] <Ahmad_TufTuf> &'
#69 [01:15] <Ahmad_TufTuf> 7
#70 [01:15] <Ahmad_TufTuf> yes i need that
#71 [01:17] <Grim> And you have deleted all files in /appdata/raoming/.minecraft having made a copy of your save files?
#72 [01:18] <Ahmad_TufTuf> yes
#73 [01:18] <Ahmad_TufTuf> yes delete that
#74 [01:18] <Ahmad_TufTuf> i delete that all
#75 [01:19] <Grim> and re-installed minecraft.
#76 [01:20] <Grim> And you don't get an error message?
#77 [01:21] <Ahmad_TufTuf> I've overcome that problem
#78 [01:22] <Grim> So it works now?
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#80 [01:25] <Ahmad_TufTuf> no
#81 [01:25] <Ahmad_TufTuf> i stuck in loading screen
#82 [01:25] <Ahmad_TufTuf> so
#83 [01:25] <Ahmad_TufTuf> how to fix it -__-
#84 [01:27] <Ahmad_TufTuf> you can fix that?
#85 [01:27] <Ahmad_TufTuf> please.. help me :'(
#86 [01:29] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#87 [01:32] <Ahmad_TufTuf> okey... i'l try again
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#89 [01:32] <Ahmad_TufTuf> but... my anti firus is Non-aktive here
#90 [01:32] <Ahmad_TufTuf> i non aktife is pemanen
#91 [01:33] <Ahmad_TufTuf> not woking -__-
#92 [01:33] <Grim> Router firewall.
#93 [01:33] <Grim> possible.
#94 [01:33] <Grim> Have you tried restarting your PC?
#95 [01:33] <Grim> Updating Java?
#96 [01:33] <Grim> Cause demo is working fine for me :)
#97 [01:34] <Grim> Although I do feel your pain :((
#98 [01:34] <Ahmad_TufTuf> can you gift me full fersion :(
#99 [01:35] <Ahmad_TufTuf> i don't have money T_T
#100 [01:35] <DiskDaemon> No, that's not possible. You can try out the demo though
#101 [01:35] <DiskDaemon> ?? demo
#102 [01:35] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#103 [01:35] <Ahmad_TufTuf> i just will play that game...
#104 [01:35] <Ahmad_TufTuf> my demo is over... 100 miniutes
#105 [01:36] <Ahmad_TufTuf> i play it 1 hours 40 minutes
#106 [01:36] <DiskDaemon> Is it not possible to demo a new world?
#107 [01:38] <Ahmad_TufTuf> i jus't question how to fix that..
#108 [01:38] <Grim> Have you tried restarting your PC?
#109 [01:38] <Ahmad_TufTuf> yes
#110 [01:38] <Ahmad_TufTuf> there is no one else who answered correctly
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#112 [01:43] <Grim> Sorry for my delayed response.. here I am having issue with my *.msi files..
#113 [01:43] <Grim> and my registry is borked.
#114 [01:43] <Ahmad_TufTuf> can you gift me .minecraft folder?
#115 [01:44] <Grim> But I have no solution for you, you could try turning your router on and off.
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#117 [01:44] <Grim> If you can tell me why I get an error1500 during instal I will consider it.
#118 [01:49] <Ahmad_TufTuf> owh... so... i can't play minecraft again ;'(
#119 [01:49] <Ahmad_TufTuf> T_T T_T T_T
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#123 [02:10] <t4nk065> I dont know if this has been a problem, but I'm pretty sure my skin has something wrong with it
#124 [02:11] <t4nk065> When i try to remotelychange my skin, i become steve or my last skin
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#127 [02:13] <Compodulator> my achievments won't stay.... achieved D:
#128 [02:13] <Compodulator> any idea why?
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#130 [02:19] <theScaryDoor> Hi
#131 [02:19] <Compodulator> omg! a scary door!
#132 [02:19] <theScaryDoor> Ya, be scared!
#133 [02:20] <theScaryDoor> I had to go through myself to get here though..
#134 [02:20] * Compodulator hides under the cuddly table
#134 [02:20] <theScaryDoor> lawl
#135 [02:20] <Compodulator> well that explains why you're inside out...
#136 [02:20] <theScaryDoor> no such thing as a cuddly table!
#137 [02:20] <theScaryDoor> all furniture is scary!
#138 [02:21] <theScaryDoor> what? my hings is showing?
#139 [02:21] <theScaryDoor> hinge*
#140 [02:22] <theScaryDoor> What do I tell a person who doesn't know how to change font color?
#141 [02:24] <theScaryDoor> Hey, that worked!
#142 [02:24] <theScaryDoor> thanks
#143 [02:24] <theScaryDoor> thanks
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#194 [02:39] <Kanegasi> lol voxelhead
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#204 [02:44] <Grizzly1981> Can some one please help me with the command to bring bring up the second help in game help menu please?
#205 [02:45] <Grim> As in \help
#206 [02:45] <Grizzly1981> yes
#207 [02:45] <Grim> or \help 2 for page 2
#208 [02:45] <Grim> asuming there is more than one page of help
#209 [02:46] <Grizzly1981> I have tried /help 2 command and it keeps telling me that it is not a command
#210 [02:46] <Grim> Weh you type help how many pages of help does it say are there?
#211 [02:46] <Grizzly1981> 2
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#213 [02:46] <Grizzly1981> it starts on page 1 of 2
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#225 [02:48] <Grim> try /help 2
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#230 [02:49] <Grim> When you type /help does it say anything about typing /help 2
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#236 [02:53] <CrunchyWalnut> Hello?
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#243 [03:25] <owboinator> hello
#244 [03:27] <Andrio> Hello, again
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#246 [03:28] <owboinator> hello
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#248 [03:37] <owboinator> hey
#249 [03:40] <owboinator> k bye
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#279 [03:58] <Crimethinker> I've got a little problem.
#280 [03:59] <Crimethinker> I'm making a city map, and I want it to be surrounded by very thick forest.
#281 [03:59] <Crimethinker> Does anyone know about a mass tree placement tool?
#282 [03:59] <Crimethinker> It's a flatland map.
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#284 [04:00] * Crimethinker coughs
#284 [04:00] <Andrio> Crimethinker, saplings and bonemeal?
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#286 [04:00] <Crimethinker> I'm doing that now, but it's a large area.
#287 [04:01] <Yoshiii> I have minecraft on Xbox 360 and can anyone here tell me if there is a way to get all statistics reset?
#288 [04:03] <Crimethinker> Also, how can you not project your country?
#289 [04:03] <Crimethinker> If you click on the little person icon in the chatting list, it shows your country.
#290 [04:04] <Andrio> EsperNet doesn't allow that, sorry.
#291 [04:04] <Crimethinker> Doesn't allow what?
#292 [04:04] <Andrio> masking your IP address
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#294 [04:04] <Crimethinker> I see a bunch of others who don't project their country. How?
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#296 [04:05] <Crimethinker> Well, I'll be bonemealing...
#297 [04:05] <Crimethinker> For a while...
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#299 [04:06] <Andrio> I'm guessing the people whose countries aren't shown are those for whom the IRCd couldn't resolve their IP, and have their IP shown as their host
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#333 [04:43] <Kleskmaster> hi
#334 [04:44] <Kleskmaster> What happens to mobs in a chunk when the chunk gets unloaded (i.e. when a player runs too far away)? Do they still count towards the mobcap or are they despawned? Specifically in Multiplayer
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#343 [05:25] <Brad> plzz help im having problems trying to buy minecraft
#344 [05:26] <Brad> can anyone help me?
#345 [05:26] <Andrio|Away> What specifically are your problems?
#346 [05:26] <Brad> http://screensnapr.com/v/Z24a6V.jpg
#347 [05:26] <Brad> look at pic
#348 [05:28] <Brad> any ideas
#349 [05:29] <Andrio|Away> Possibly PayPal is down
#350 [05:29] <Brad> i tried it yesterday too
#351 [05:36] <Brad> no idea anyone try help?
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#355 [05:42] <yoshi> http://www.twitch.tv/imbacoaching
#356 [05:42] <yoshi> http://www.twitch.tv/imbacoaching
#357 [05:42] <yoshi> http://www.twitch.tv/imbacoaching
#358 [05:42] <yoshi> http://www.twitch.tv/imbacoaching
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#360 [05:44] <yoshi> http://www.twitch.tv/imbacoaching
#361 [05:44] <yoshi> http://www.twitch.tv/imbacoaching
#362 [05:44] <yoshi> http://www.twitch.tv/imbacoaching
#363 [05:44] <yoshi> http://www.twitch.tv/imbacoaching
#364 [05:44] <yoshi> http://www.twitch.tv/imbacoaching
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#369 [05:58] * TheGoodNoodle prods Iguana
#369 [05:58] <TheGoodNoodle> you there?
#370 [06:01] <Iguana> kinda
#371 [06:04] <Grim> Try nother payment method brad
#372 [06:05] <Iguana> yoshi, advertising your twitch stream is bad
#373 [06:05] <Iguana> y'know what else would be bad
#374 [06:05] <Iguana> probably getting banned from the channel
#375 [06:06] <Iguana> so don't do that again
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#377 [06:08] <Amelo90> hello i have a problem :S
#378 [06:10] <Grim> Is it minecraft related?
#379 [06:10] <Amelo90> sorry wait i come from germany^^
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#381 [06:11] <Amelo90> yes it is about minecraft
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#383 [06:11] <Amelo90> i have buy this game but i dont became a e-mail i have here a text from minecraft he saide i soll save it...
#384 [06:11] <Brad> can some one help me with a payment problem please i really want to start playing
#385 [06:12] <Grim> if it is easier tell me in German. Wenn es einfacher ist, sagen Sie mir, in deutscher Sprache.
#386 [06:14] <Coll> I have a question about the iron golem
#387 [06:14] <Amelo90> Ich habe mir heute Minecraft gekauft dort bekam ich einen Text wo solch ein text stand: Purchase Complete! Thank you for purchasing Minecraft! Your status should update within the hour. Receipt Please save this information, it is useful if you were ever to contact support. Upon processing your payment a receipt regarding the transaction will be sent by e-mail, please store this information as well. ACCOUNT "Zensier" ORDER "Zensiert" Note:
#388 [06:14] <Coll> if you make one for a village will it protect them?
#389 [06:14] <Amelo90> nun weiß ich nicht wann diese e-mail kommt die ich erhalten soll
#390 [06:14] <Brad> anyone help me please!!!
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#392 [06:15] <Brad> ??
#393 [06:15] <Grim> Wie lange Sie die Bestellung aufgegeben?
#394 [06:15] <yoshi> .twitch.tv / imbacoaching
#395 [06:15] <yoshi> .twitch.tv / imbacoaching
#396 [06:15] <yoshi> .twitch.tv / imbacoaching
#397 [06:15] <yoshi> .twitch.tv / imbacoaching
#398 [06:15] <yoshi> .twitch.tv / imbacoaching
#399 [06:16] <Grim> How long since you placed the order?
#400 [06:16] <Amelo90> ca. 1h 30 min
#401 [06:16] <Kleskmaster> /join #
#402 [06:16] <Kleskmaster> ups :D
#403 [06:16] <Kleskmaster> sry
#404 [06:16] <Amelo90> ca. 1 stunde und 30 minuten
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#406 [06:17] <Grim> OK Ich würde warten weitere 30 Minuten, dann kontaktieren .. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#407 [06:18] <Amelo90> okay ich bedanke mich :)
#408 [06:19] <Grim> Your Welcome
#409 [06:19] <Brad> anyone help me now
#410 [06:20] <Grim> Danke, dass Sie mich auf Deutsch lesen I love it :)
#411 [06:20] <Amelo90> ist kein problem immer wieder gerne :D
#412 [06:20] <Grim> Brad try another payment type.
#413 [06:20] <Brad> i can only pay with paypal
#414 [06:20] <Brad> if paypal down or something
#415 [06:21] <Brad> this si what it says
#416 [06:21] <Grim> I am sensing there might be a problem with the payment mechanism, although I do not know officially.
#417 [06:21] <Brad> http://screensnapr.com/v/bzfM1I.jpg
#418 [06:21] <Brad> what does that mean
#419 [06:21] <Brad> problem with minecraft or paypal or me
#420 [06:21] <Grim> I simply don't know, if you have the funds in your bank account then is not an issue there.
#421 [06:22] <Brad> ok
#422 [06:22] <Grim> Is possible paypal is down, or has issues.
#423 [06:22] <Grim> or issues lie with Mojang, I simply do not know.
#424 [06:22] <Brad> it did not let me yesterday too
#425 [06:23] <Grim> We're sorry to hear that you're having difficulties with your purchase. Unfortunately, we do not have information on payment errors, as we only receive the payment verification and customer information when a transaction was successful. Sometimes a payment is unsuccessful when an unsupported payment method is used.
#426 [06:23] <Grim> If you received a message asking you to wait 48 hours before you try your purchase again, that is a security restriction when purchasing through Moneybookers (for credit/debit cards), and Mojang cannot lift that restriction.
#427 [06:23] <Grim> Additionally, you may wish to try a different method of payment, or try your purchase again.
#428 [06:24] <Grim> Currently, Paypal is only an option for purchasing an account, but not for purchasing a gift code. We hope to have this option available again soon.
#429 [06:24] <Grim> If you live within Guam or the state of Illinois, the Moneybookers website lists those locations as "coming soon". Some users have reported success by selecting a different state during the purchasing process.
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#431 [06:24] <Grim> If you experience further difficulty with your purchase, you may wish to contact Paypal or Moneybookers, depending on your method of payment.
#432 [06:24] <Grim> Paypal: www.paypal.com, click "contact us"
#433 [06:24] <djmike88> I have a problem.
#434 [06:24] <Grim> Moneybookers/Skrill: www.moneybookers.com, click "contact".
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#436 [06:25] <Grim> And am sorry that you can not play the game Brad, and hope it reolves it's self.
#437 [06:25] <djmike88> I am getting session.minecraft.net errors.
#438 [06:25] <Grim> Best thing for now is to contact PAypal.
#439 [06:25] <Ky> Hello, just wondering if I could change my security question on Mojang??
#440 [06:26] <djmike88> Hello
#441 [06:26] <djmike88> I have a big problem.
#442 [06:27] <Ky> Is anyone here??
#443 [06:27] <djmike88> I have got the following error message Failed to login: java.net.UnknownHostException: session.minecraft.net
#444 [06:27] <Ky> And do they know if you can change the security question?
#445 [06:27] <yoshi> .twitch.tv / imbacoaching
#446 [06:27] <yoshi> .twitch.tv / imbacoaching
#447 [06:27] <yoshi> .twitch.tv / imbacoaching
#448 [06:27] <yoshi> .twitch.tv / imbacoaching
#449 [06:27] <yoshi> .twitch.tv / imbacoaching
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#451 [06:29] <Amelo90> Grim ich habe nochmal eine frage...
#452 [06:29] <Grim> Ok..
#453 [06:30] <Amelo90> Wenn ich mich an diesen Support wende: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new wielange dauert es bis ich eine Antwort bekomme und wie kann ich ihre antwort einsehen?
#454 [06:31] <Grim> When I placed an E-mail the other day I got a response within 24 hours, however I know it can take longer.
#455 [06:32] <Grim> Wenn ich eine E-Mail platziert den anderen Tag ich eine Antwort innerhalb von 24 Stunden haben, aber ich weiß, es kann länger dauern.
#456 [06:32] <Amelo90> okay danke schön :)
#457 [06:32] <Amelo90> bekommt man die antwort per e-mail?
#458 [06:33] <Grim> Have you got a username and password?
#459 [06:33] <Grim> If so please have you tried to access game already?
#460 [06:33] <Grim> Haben Sie einen Benutzernamen und ein Passwort?
#461 [06:33] <Grim> Wenn ja, bitte haben Sie versucht, um das Spiel zugreifen schon?
#462 [06:33] <Amelo90> ja aber bisher funktioniert das nicht
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#464 [06:34] <Amelo90> ich habe auch per lastschriftverfahren bezahlt kann es vielleicht daran liegen?
#465 [06:35] <Grim> I can only now refer you to http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#466 [06:36] <Grim> ADa ich keinen Zugang zu anderen Informationen, die Ihnen helfen könnten, müssen dafür bin ich leid.
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#468 [06:38] <Amelo90> mal schauen was passiert. habe mich nun an die mojang direkt gewendet :)
#469 [06:38] <Amelo90> ich danke dir trotzdem :D
#470 [06:38] <Grim> Again you are welcome
#471 [06:39] <Amelo90> :)
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#473 [06:40] <Llama> Hello, Has anyone else had a problem with gaining experience in snapshot 34b? I've gotten up to level 25 easily with mining and my zombie farm, but now only about 10% of zombies actually drop any experience orbs
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#476 [06:41] <Kleskmaster> Llama isnt that the nerf dinnerbone talked about?
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#478 [06:41] <Amelo90> so i go offline bye :D
#479 [06:41] <Amelo90> and thx too :)
#480 [06:41] <Amelo90> and thx too :)
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#482 [06:42] <DiskDaemon> They've nerfed the xp - if you leave the area and return, the mob spawners will return back to having more xp for each mob
#483 [06:42] <Grim> bye 0/
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#485 [06:42] <Llama> I don't keep up with any news really... so I should travel several chunks away from the area?
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#487 [06:44] <DiskDaemon> yes, until the mob spawner is no longer active, and the mobs related to it despawn
#488 [06:46] <Llama> I should have moved that far away already but if I move 128 blocks I can be certain. I've also noticed somethings else with zombies
#489 [06:47] <Llama> A zombie who died must have dropped a potato because another zombie picked it up, but when I killed that zombie he wouldn't let go of the potato :(
#490 [06:49] <Llama> And I never get swords from zombies on medium or hard difficulty, they just die with the zombie
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#497 [07:09] <Wug> Guest18134: you got renicked. and shouldnt you be at work
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#499 [07:15] <Grim> Might there be an issue with Minecraft Logins? even though we have a green light, has been nearly an hour of "Failed to verify username!"
#500 [07:15] <VoxelHead> Grim - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#501 [07:15] <Grim> Thank you voxel but can mojang not change the color of it's lights?
#502 [07:17] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, it seems to log in fine for me
#503 [07:17] <Grim> Minecraft logins This service is healthy. All is good! cough cough :: Mojang accounts login :: This service is healthy. All is good! cough cough.
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#505 [07:18] <Llama> I moved more than 500 blocks away from the zombie spawner but I'm still not getting experience from it, back to mining/normal hunting then! As long as the devs are aware they can find and fix the bug
#506 [07:18] <Grim> DiskDaemon: have you migrated your account?
#507 [07:19] <DiskDaemon> yes
#508 [07:19] <Grim> Ok so not exclusive to that.
#509 [07:19] <DiskDaemon> On a non-migrated accout, I get an error when connecting.
#510 [07:19] <Grim> I'll try joining a few more servers.
#511 [07:22] <DiskDaemon> Oh, I get it. The magic launcher doesn't know how to handle non-premium accounts. The vanilla launcher handles the login just fine
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#513 [07:23] <Grim> eh?
#514 [07:24] <Grim> oh ahh. erm.
#515 [07:26] <Grim> nah i smae for all servers for me.
#516 [07:26] <Grim> same
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#519 [07:35] <Grim> Ok on the new Mojong site it is asking me for my favorite restaurant, last name of teacher, and first girlfriend/boyfriend. It is then telling me it can not confirm my identity... any thoughts?
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#521 [07:36] <DiskDaemon> Those security questions are to prevent others from attempting to take over your account. If you don't know the answers to your own security questions, your only other option really is to contact Mojang with your transaction id (as proof that you own the account) and details on your username and what you require.
#522 [07:37] <Grim> Yeah that I figured, is not that I can not recall the answers I gave I only did that 48 hours ago is more seems the server is not accepting them. of course is most likely end user ie. me issue.
#523 [07:38] <Grim> As for transaction ID That is going back some lol.
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#525 [07:38] <Grim> Where would I have left that golden nuigget.
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#529 [07:54] <Grim> Hopefully support will take pity on this fool.
#530 [07:54] <Wug> lol
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#532 [07:55] <BenSure> hey, im trying to log into my server and i keep gettig failed to verify username
#533 [07:55] <VoxelHead> BenSure - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#534 [07:57] <Grim> Mojang authentication also affected then I prey, else I have memory issues.
#535 [07:57] <Wug> I'm not sure exactly how that works
#536 [07:58] <Grim> What my memory..... :p
#537 [07:58] <Wug> no, the relationship between mojang.com auth servers and minecraft.net ones
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#547 [08:40] <Hvarr> I can't login to any server. I'm getting read timeout. I tried reinstalling a game, java, changing java version. Nothing helps. Tried restarting my computer, resetting network connection. Nothing. Servers appear to be online. Read timeout.
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#549 [08:48] <Hvarr> Chris what else I can do?
#550 [08:48] <Chris> erm, not ping me perhaps?
#551 [08:48] <Chris> ?? patience
#552 [08:49] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#553 [08:49] * Me4502 is now known as :Me4502|away
#554 [08:49] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#555 [08:49] <Hvarr> lol
#556 [08:49] <Hvarr> ?? attitude
#557 [08:49] <VoxelHead> attitude: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#558 [08:49] <VoxelHead> attitude: In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#559 [08:50] <Hvarr> ?? Mojang
#560 [08:50] <Hvarr> ?? jerk
#561 [08:50] <Chris> ._.
#562 [08:50] <Calinou> ?? Hvarr
#563 [08:51] <Hvarr> fail
#564 [08:53] <Hvarr> duh
#565 [08:53] <Hvarr> I can't play minecraft ;_;
#566 [08:53] <Hvarr> my hands are shaking :D
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#568 [08:54] <Wesley> hey grim, i got a call from my bank this morning, asking me about those transactions
#569 [08:54] <Wesley> apparently "Verified by Visa", even though it has the word "verified" in it, is very much prone to scams
#570 [08:55] <Wesley> so my bank blocks it for 3-4 hours when there is a password change
#571 [08:55] <Wesley> and i got a call this morning, the receptionist confirmed that those three transactions *did not* go through
#572 [08:55] <Wesley> and that it should work on my next attempt to buy Minecraft :)
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#574 [08:58] <Grim> See 24 hours makes a hell of a lot of difference :)
#575 [08:58] <Grim> And I am glad it all worked out for you.
#576 [08:59] <Grim> Internet purchases can be troublesome, but Mojang pretty good, from what I have experienced, and a bit of butt kissing go's a long way.
#577 [08:59] <Grim> Wesley: good luck on this next attempt.
#578 [09:00] <Wesley> thank you, i'm currently packing for college @_@ so i will probably be unable to try until i'm either done organizing these clothes, or when i get moved in
#579 [09:00] <Wesley> my mom is out with the van now, which i obviously need to be able to move stuff to college
#580 [09:00] <Grim> lol :)
#581 [09:00] <Grim> Well keep on coming back here and #MineCraft also
#582 [09:01] <Grim> Nice to be of service :)
#583 [09:01] <Grim> I love people with issues, cause I am a problem solver
#584 [09:01] <Hvarr> I have a problem for you
#585 [09:01] <Grim> Oh and Auth server is back up whoot whoot \0/
#586 [09:01] <Grim> Go on Hvarr I make no promise but I will try to help
#587 [09:01] <Hvarr> scroll up
#588 [09:02] <Hvarr> my first message
#589 [09:02] <Grim> Try logging in again tell me what hapoens whilst I read up sorry I was AFK.
#590 [09:02] * Contex is now known as :Contex|Away
#591 [09:04] <Grim> Based on the way you spoke to the other volunteers here, I am giving yu one saving grace.
#592 [09:04] <Grim> so Hvarr , have you tried again?
#593 [09:04] <Grim> And how long have you had this issue for?
#594 [09:04] <Grim> pls, help me to help you.
#595 [09:04] <Hvarr> for few hours
#596 [09:04] <Grim> I need input.
#597 [09:05] <Grim> And have you now tried to log in again as per my request?
#598 [09:05] <Hvarr> yes, I just tried again and it worked O_O
#599 [09:05] <Grim> And when you do attempt to log in tell me exactly what it says.
#600 [09:05] <Grim> Yay :)
#601 [09:05] <Grim> See, Mojang are the good guy's.
#602 [09:05] <Grim> they have been busy transfering accounts today..
#603 [09:06] <Hvarr> this does not solve the problem though. It just covers it up
#604 [09:06] <Hvarr> ah
#605 [09:06] <keret> is the account server down?
#606 [09:06] <Hvarr> nono
#607 [09:06] <Grim> And as a result there was a lil window where things just did not work.
#608 [09:06] <Hvarr> it's not about account
#609 [09:06] <Hvarr> I'm talking about servers by themselves
#610 [09:06] <Grim> Hrm ok so please refresh me with exactly what the issue is?/
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#612 [09:06] <Grim> So can you log into a server now or no?
#613 [09:06] <Hvarr> It's like, I see them online and everything
#614 [09:06] <Grim> Yep,
#615 [09:06] <Hvarr> but when connecting - Read Timeout
#616 [09:07] <keret> multiplayer session server is down for me
#617 [09:07] <Grim> Just Read Timeout no exception error..
#618 [09:08] <Grim> Ok let me go and try to find out for you.
#619 [09:08] <Hvarr> yep, no error
#620 [09:09] <Grim> Ok no java.net.sockettimeout:read timed out.
#621 [09:09] <Grim> ok..
#622 [09:10] <Grim> Just humor me and try to connect to your favorite mine craft server.
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#624 [09:10] <Hvarr> Grim are you talking to me?
#625 [09:10] <Grim> yes sorry Hvarr
#626 [09:10] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#627 [09:10] <Grim> I am .
#628 [09:11] <Grim> If that fails then could you humor me further by switching off your router waiting for 10 seconds and switching it back on again then coming back and grumbling at me cause it still don't work.
#629 [09:12] <Grim> to Hvarr
#630 [09:12] <Hvarr> Grim...
#631 [09:12] <Hvarr> [16:05] 31<Hvarr>30 yes, I just tried again and it worked O_O
#632 [09:12] <Hvarr> I can connect now
#633 [09:13] <Hvarr> Thank you, my friend.
#634 [09:13] <Grim> :) Moajng are pretty awesome :) So are the guys here, but it was a Authentication issue.
#635 [09:13] <Grim> Don't thank me , thank Esper.net
#636 [09:13] <Grim> And Mojang.
#637 [09:13] <Grim> And This channel.
#638 [09:13] <Grim> For with out them I would not be here :)
#639 [09:13] <Hvarr> Thank you channel, thank you Mojang, thank you Esper.net, thank you Notch
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#641 [09:14] <Grim> Think I might go and twatter Notch.
#642 [09:14] <Grim> I want freaking answers..
#643 [09:15] <Grim> :p
#644 [09:16] <Grim> Now the authentication server is having issues again..
#645 [09:17] <keret> how can i hack my client to not need the multiplayer sessions server?
#646 [09:18] <Wesley> i'm pretty sure that's not allowed @_@
#647 [09:18] <Grim_Reaper> it isn't
#648 [09:19] <Grim_Reaper> And no help with something like that will be provided
#649 [09:19] <Grim> Well keret it is not allowed but there is google.com
#650 [09:19] <Grim> and erm, don't do it cause, you will only land yourself with more problems than a short period in which you can not play.
#651 [09:20] * Contex|Away is now known as :Contex
#652 [09:20] <Grim> However find a server that does not require you to be logged into mojang and your on a winner.
#653 [09:20] <Grim> not that I said it.
#654 [09:20] <Wesley> mhm
#655 [09:21] <Wesley> i have been playing minecraft since last year, but i've never played online besides with a former friend of mine on his server
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#657 [09:21] <Wesley> but now i want to play on servers, cause minecraft is apparently a lot more than simply a passing fad @_@
#658 [09:21] <Grim> imho multiplayer is better..
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#660 [09:22] <Grim> And I would love to reccomend here but instead I invite you to PM me.. I'll give you some server details.
#661 [09:22] <Wesley> i have a server i'm going to be a part of :)
#662 [09:22] <Wesley> i have a server i'm going to be a part of :)
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#664 [09:22] <Wesley> it's FurionQuest
#665 [09:22] <Wesley> a furry server
#666 [09:22] <Wesley> :3
#667 [09:22] <Grim> Awesome :)
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#670 [09:23] <Grim> I freaking <3 MC
#671 [09:23] <Wesley> i was like "what is this, a server fur furries?!?!"
#672 [09:23] <Wesley> yep! <3
#673 [09:23] <Wesley> i built some pretty fancy redstone contraptions
#674 [09:23] <Grim> I have no freaking idea man. but I like the sound of it.
#675 [09:24] <Grim> nom nom nom redstone..
#676 [09:24] <Wesley> http://i.imgur.com/XUbLi.jpg
#677 [09:24] <Grim> Bang Tidy work.
#678 [09:24] <Wesley> what?
#679 [09:24] <Grim> Awesome work.
#680 [09:25] <Wesley> oh, thank you :D
#681 [09:25] <Boreeas> Oh god that FOV in the 2nd picture
#682 [09:25] <Wesley> haha boreeas, i wanted to get the whole contraption in the picture xD
#683 [09:25] <Wesley> but it's a simple button lock, operated by pistons
#684 [09:25] <Wesley> press the right 4 buttons, lock opens
#685 [09:25] <Boreeas> Also, what are you doing, running Windows 95
#686 [09:26] <Wesley> press a wrong button, lock resets
#687 [09:26] <Wesley> no, i'm running XP on my desk, 7 on my lap, i just love the Windows Classic skin, it's nostalgia
#688 [09:26] <Wesley> i grew up on Windows 95, and my first machine was a 98
#689 [09:27] <Grim> Me also..
#690 [09:27] <Grim> win classic ftw
#691 [09:27] <Wesley> indeed
#692 [09:27] <Wesley> the only other skin i like is Vista Aero
#693 [09:27] <Wesley> it's so pretty
#694 [09:28] <Wesley> but alas, poor yurick, i knew him well
#695 [09:28] <Grim> I don't care to much for the floating views, nor the 3d desktop..
#696 [09:28] <Grim> I just want functionality, streamlined, speed.
#697 [09:28] <Wesley> the lock is underground, in a prison i built
#698 [09:29] <Wesley> when the lock is disabled, a piston pulls away in cell 13 revealing a lever, when the lever is pulled a pathway in the back of the cell opens, revealing a pathway to a series of tunnels
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#700 [09:30] <Wesley> i thought it was pretty fancy
#701 [09:31] <Grim> Be sure to check out Ethoslab on youtube.
#702 [09:31] <Grim> And DocDM.
#703 [09:31] <Grim> If you don't already.
#704 [09:31] <Grim> Sorry for the plug channel admin.
#705 [09:31] <Wesley> i think i've seen ethoslab, sounds familiar anyways
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#708 [09:37] <iShadow> Guys
#709 [09:37] <iShadow> Can you help me
#710 [09:37] <Grim> Ask.
#711 [09:37] <iShadow> I'm not the owner of a server, but can I add plug-ins to it?
#712 [09:37] <iShadow> like im only an op
#713 [09:37] <Necrodoom> no, you must have access to server files
#714 [09:37] <Grim> Only if you have access to the plugins folder either through FTP or#
#715 [09:37] <iShadow> Oh..
#716 [09:38] <Grim> Through administration gateway..
#717 [09:38] <Necrodoom> and then abillity to /stop and start server
#718 [09:38] <Necrodoom> so plugins will work properly
#719 [09:38] <Grim> If you want a pug in added you are best to talk to the server owner.
#720 [09:38] <iShadow> Yep the server owner is a friend of mine.
#721 [09:38] <iShadow> I'm just thinking to help him out
#722 [09:38] <iShadow> Because I suggested a lot of plug-ins
#723 [09:39] <Grim> Or be like me and host your own servers and get messy with java whilst breaking bukkit builds.
#724 [09:39] <iShadow> like Essentials.
#725 [09:39] <Grim> Essentials is well say's it on the tin.
#726 [09:39] <iShadow> Is it easy to add that plug-in?
#727 [09:39] <Grim> but that is my opinion it may not be shared by your server administrator.
#728 [09:40] <Necrodoom> iShadow: it will work out of the box
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#730 [09:40] <Grim> Depends on what you want to get from it, but the basic setup is easy as copy files to plugin folder.
#731 [09:40] <Necrodoom> iShadow: but checking out config files is recommended
#732 [09:40] <iShadow> Thanks guys.
#733 [09:41] <iShadow> :D
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#735 [09:41] <Grim> Your welcome iShadow ..
#736 [09:41] <iShadow> Wait.
#737 [09:41] <iShadow> Vault plug-in is for what?
#738 [09:42] <Necrodoom> eco plugins linking
#739 [09:42] <Jonissemand> Hi. I cant connect to any servers at the moment. Does anyone know what happened. Im using a mac!
#740 [09:42] <Grim> check on www.minecraft.net/wiki
#741 [09:42] <Jonissemand> link is not working
#742 [09:42] <Grim> yup the authentication servers are in meltdown.
#743 [09:42] <iShadow> minecraftwiki.net
#744 [09:42] <Necrodoom> iShadow: it connects between your eco plugin and eco addons
#745 [09:42] <iShadow> ohh...
#746 [09:42] <Jonissemand> ok... that sucks
#747 [09:42] <Grim> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#748 [09:42] <Jonissemand> Thx for the help
#749 [09:43] <Grim> I am sure it will all be running again soon.
#750 [09:43] <iShadow> I hope my friend can do all of the plugins.
#751 [09:43] <iShadow> XD
#752 [09:43] <iShadow> Add them all for the sake of our server
#753 [09:43] <iShadow> lol
#754 [09:44] <Necrodoom> inb4 5 permissions plugins = crash
#755 [09:44] <iShadow> Can you suggest cool server plug-ins and what's their use?
#756 [09:45] <Necrodoom> iShadow: this should really go on #bukkit, btw
#757 [09:45] <Grim> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki will best serve you there.
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#759 [09:45] <MCDanny> hi
#760 [09:45] <Grim> or as Necro said #bukkit
#761 [09:45] <Grim> Hola MCDanny ..
#762 [09:46] <Grim> Minecraft is down so ask away.
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#764 [09:46] <MCDanny> i have a little problem regarding fps lag
#765 [09:46] <MCDanny> first i thought its just in tekkit but its even minecraft
#766 [09:46] <MCDanny> no lagspike
#767 [09:46] <MCDanny> its like this: every 5 - 10 seconds my fps go down from 300 - 400 to only 10 - 20 for no reason
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#769 [09:46] <iShadow> You have good specs?
#770 [09:47] <MCDanny> and they stay at 10 - 20 for about 10 seconds
#771 [09:47] <XFerrariX> Hello
#772 [09:47] <MCDanny> and then they go up again
#773 [09:47] <XFerrariX> What?
#774 [09:47] <Grim> In single player also?
#775 [09:47] <Grim> Hello XFerrariX
#776 [09:47] <XFerrariX> What dafuq
#777 [09:47] <MCDanny> hmm havent tried it in sp im playing on my own server
#778 [09:47] <MCDanny> the server is running on another laptop
#779 [09:47] <MCDanny> hold on imma try sp
#780 [09:47] <XFerrariX> hello my friend has a problem ge cant log in to eny servers why not?
#781 [09:47] <Grim> It iwll be server.
#782 [09:48] <Grim> Yes Sorry the authentication servers seem to be down atm.
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#784 [09:48] <XFerrariX> no beacause i can join the server but he can't
#785 [09:48] <Grim> We all suffering MC withdrawal.
#786 [09:48] <XFerrariX> whats that?
#787 [09:48] <iShadow> I can join a server atm.
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#789 [09:48] <Grim> It is affecting some accounts more than others.
#790 [09:49] <Jonissemand> Hi again. I also have another problem with conncting. Everytime i connect to a server, it lags for 15 secs and then connects to the server. It has been going on since the 1.3.1 update came. I have never had this issue bafore.
#791 [09:49] <Grim> But you are not alone.
#792 [09:49] <iShadow> xD
#793 [09:49] <Necrodoom> !login
#794 [09:49] <Necrodoom> hm
#795 [09:49] <Grim> go make a cup of tea, maybe take a walk for about 15 minutes then try again.
#796 [09:49] <iShadow> I can join any server right now.
#797 [09:49] <XFerrariX> Indeed
#798 [09:49] <Jonissemand> Can you please answer my question?
#799 [09:49] <MCDanny> hey guys i just tried sp and there i have the same issue and also for some reason the world was building up EXTREMELY slow
#800 [09:49] <XFerrariX> But no a cup of tea :(
#801 [09:50] <iShadow> gtg btw thx for the help guys
#802 [09:50] <iShadow> Jonissemand
#803 [09:50] <MCDanny> so what do i do? i tried reinstalling java yesterday
#804 [09:50] <Jonissemand> yeah?
#805 [09:50] <MCDanny> didnt help at all
#806 [09:50] <iShadow> It's okay.
#807 [09:50] <iShadow> It's just a 15 sec lag.
#808 [09:50] <Jonissemand> i hate it!
#809 [09:50] <Jonissemand> :(
#810 [09:51] <XFerrariX> Wiii
#811 [09:51] <Jonissemand> Do you know why it happens
#812 [09:51] <iShadow> Maybe Net lag?
#813 [09:51] <iShadow> host lag?
#814 [09:51] <XFerrariX> :?
#815 [09:51] <MCDanny> ...
#816 [09:51] <Jonissemand> naaa... it came exactly when the 1.3.1 upadte came
#817 [09:51] <MCDanny> could someone please help me??
#818 [09:51] <XFerrariX> Hej jonissemand
#819 [09:52] <XFerrariX> nobody is helping you.... Da Da Dam
#820 [09:52] <Jonissemand> Im justt so tired of all those problems
#821 [09:52] <XFerrariX> da da da dam
#822 [09:52] <iShadow> You have many mods?
#823 [09:52] <Jonissemand> No one
#824 [09:52] <XFerrariX> RRRRRROOOOO::::????
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#826 [09:52] <XFerrariX> Fart
#827 [09:52] <Jonissemand> hm...
#828 [09:52] <XFerrariX> (fart)
#829 [09:53] <Jonissemand> Stop it ferrari....
#830 [09:53] <XFerrariX> i noooooooooooooooo you
#831 [09:53] <MCDanny> what is this i was here first and someone told me to try sp and tell em if it lags there too and now nobodys answering
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#833 [09:53] <iShadow> Joniss maybe you just have mods?
#834 [09:53] <MCDanny> what kind of support chat is this? xD
#835 [09:53] <Grim_> That was me MCDanny
#836 [09:53] <XFerrariX> you are a bitch you played tabletennis
#837 [09:53] <Jonissemand> iShadow i dont have any mods
#838 [09:53] <MCDanny> ah yeah i remember
#839 [09:53] <XFerrariX> jonissemand your bitch
#840 [09:53] <Grim_> And what happened sorry I dconned
#841 [09:54] <MCDanny> i tried sp and it lags there aswell and the world builds up extremely slow
#842 [09:54] <Grim_> Same issue?
#843 [09:54] <Grim_> And your connecting fro a laptop to a laptop?
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#845 [09:54] <Grim_> or PC to a laptop?
#846 [09:54] * Grim_ is now known as :Grim
#847 [09:54] <MCDanny> i was playing sp on this machine
#848 [09:54] <MCDanny> and i play mc here all the time
#849 [09:55] <MCDanny> the server runs on the laptop next to me
#850 [09:55] * XFerrariX is now known as :Mig
#851 [09:55] <Jonissemand> bye i got to go. Thx for the anwers
#852 [09:55] <MCDanny> but its fps lag not net lag
#853 [09:55] <Grim> It sounds o me like you have a process that is firing off in the background MCDanny every 15 seconds or so.
#854 [09:55] <Mig> Smell you bitches
#855 [09:55] <Grim> Munching up system resources
#856 [09:55] <MCDanny> yeah i was thinking that aswell but what process could that be??
#857 [09:56] <Grim> You using Windows?
#858 [09:56] <MCDanny> i tried so much and im just frustrated.. -.-
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#860 [09:56] <iShadow> Jonnissemand try to reinstall your MC just make a backup of your world
#861 [09:56] <Grim> erm I am not allowed or lisenced to give tech support for them.
#862 [09:56] <Grim> I can't affors to but,
#863 [09:56] <Grim> Are you running windows?
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#865 [09:57] <MCDanny> yes i am running windows 7
#866 [09:57] <MCDanny> 64bit
#867 [09:57] <MCDanny> java 7 update 6 64bit
#868 [09:57] <Grim> ok, then ..
#869 [09:57] <Grim> Lets take a look at your resources.
#870 [09:57] <Grim> press the windows key + R
#871 [09:57] <Grim> Type MSconfig
#872 [09:57] <Grim> hit return
#873 [09:58] <MCDanny> yep
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#876 [09:58] <MCDanny> but how would msconfig help me here?
#877 [09:58] <Grim> Then click on tools
#878 [09:58] <MCDanny> yeah?
#879 [09:58] <MCDanny> done
#880 [09:58] <Grim> Find task manager select it.
#881 [09:58] <Grim> And,,,
#882 [09:58] <Grim> click launch
#883 [09:59] <Grim> look through that nice list.
#884 [09:59] <MCDanny> uuuuhm i could have just used ctrl alt del :D
#885 [09:59] <Grim> See anything with high numbers every 15 seconds or so?
#886 [09:59] <MCDanny> hmm lets see..
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#888 [09:59] <Grim> Yup but this way you don't "lock" the PC..
#889 [09:59] <Grim> Many ways to get to tskmgr
#890 [10:00] <Grim> I am helping you you do as I say.
#891 [10:00] <MCDanny> well i always use ctrl alt del
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#893 [10:00] <Grim> ;P
#894 [10:00] <MCDanny> :P
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#896 [10:00] <MCDanny> my pc never gets locked my way just saying
#897 [10:00] <MCDanny> :P
#898 [10:00] <Grim> That is like a system insyult to system call request function 0/1
#899 [10:00] <Grim> any way.
#900 [10:00] <MCDanny> :(
#901 [10:01] <Grim> See anything, you know..
#902 [10:01] <MCDanny> hmm i dont think that this is it but maybe my 7 svchosts?
#903 [10:01] <MCDanny> xD
#904 [10:01] <Grim> under the memory (private working set) that is huge?
#905 [10:01] <Grim> Nah I have about 20.
#906 [10:01] <MCDanny> and one of them takes 130.336K
#907 [10:02] <MCDanny> next is google chrome then skype
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#909 [10:02] <MCDanny> then searchindexer and wmplayer
#910 [10:02] <Grim> ok look at your cpu margin.
#911 [10:02] <MCDanny> and all the others stay very low
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#913 [10:02] <fanny> hello
#914 [10:03] <Grim> see anything there fluctuating above say 10?
#915 [10:03] <MCDanny> hmm damn i cant translate this one my pc is german ..
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#917 [10:03] <MCDanny> hold on gotta think
#918 [10:04] <MCDanny> i'd say the english word would be "idle" or "empty" process?
#919 [10:04] <Grim> that is good :)
#920 [10:04] <MCDanny> uses 99 cpu
#921 [10:04] <Grim> that not so good.
#922 [10:04] <MCDanny> but i guess thats usual
#923 [10:04] <Grim> But is still good.
#924 [10:04] <Grim> Ok anything else jumping around?
#925 [10:04] <fanny> could someone help me evrytime i login it says account migrated use email address as username
#926 [10:05] <Grim> then use E-mail address you used to register your account with mojang fanny
#927 [10:05] <fanny> i did but it does not work
#928 [10:05] <MCDanny> my overall cpu usage is at 1% so there shouldn't be any fps in mc right now.. : /
#929 [10:05] <MCDanny> when running mc it goes up to 7 %
#930 [10:06] <Grim> BTW MCDanny have you tried restarting the machine?
#931 [10:06] <fanny> i have tryed all of my email even the one i used for the account but it still does not work
#932 [10:06] <MCDanny> haha done that like 10 times this week because of encoding vids and stuff and it doesnt change :P
#933 [10:07] <Grim> Fanny plese goto www.mojang.com
#934 [10:07] <Grim> click on help.
#935 [10:07] <fanny> then what shal i do
#936 [10:07] <Grim> and follow the guides
#937 [10:08] <MCDanny> i dont get it how could mc lag and hitman blood money sims 3 bf3 and stuff run on the highest settings with almost no lag(50 - 80 fps)
#938 [10:08] <Grim> mcdanny is minecraft running in the background?
#939 [10:08] <MCDanny> right now? no
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#941 [10:08] <Grim> fire it up please.
#942 [10:08] <MCDanny> ok hold on a sec
#943 [10:09] <MCDanny> maybe the amount of process could be a clue: 70 - 71 (changing every few seconds o.O)
#944 [10:09] <MCDanny> k mc is running
#945 [10:09] <Grim> hold your horses.
#946 [10:09] <fanny> i have read all of them and nothing worked
#947 [10:10] <Grim> You will need to E-mail mojang through link fanny
#948 [10:10] <fanny> oh ok thanks
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#950 [10:11] <Grim> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/438361-account-migration-issues
#951 [10:11] <Grim> and back to MCDanny
#952 [10:11] <MCDanny> yep
#953 [10:11] <MCDanny> i'm all ears
#954 [10:12] <Grim> Ok go back to task manager.
#955 [10:12] <Grim> clcibk on performance
#956 [10:12] <Grim> then resource manager
#957 [10:12] <Grim> resource monitor.
#958 [10:12] <MCDanny> yep
#959 [10:12] <Grim> Sorry been awake for 48 hours..
#960 [10:13] <Grim> Like a bad dose of ACID>
#961 [10:13] <Grim> ok can you give me highest readings of disk usage?
#962 [10:13] <MCDanny> no problem me too(well almost.. been trying to solve my problem since 12 hours and im kinda going crazy here.. been awake for about 39 hours )
#963 [10:14] <MCDanny> the highest disk usage? utorrent XD
#964 [10:15] <Grim> try closing utorrent.
#965 [10:15] <MCDanny> i really dont think thats gonna help and i would love to finish this dl but if you say so
#966 [10:15] <MCDanny> ok
#967 [10:16] <MCDanny> done
#968 [10:16] <Grim> FPS improved?
#969 [10:16] <MCDanny> gotta check
#970 [10:16] <MCDanny> im in the menu in mc right now
#971 [10:16] <MCDanny> hmm well the world is sitll loading so unusually slowly
#972 [10:17] <MCDanny> btw the lagging and slow world loading started i think in 1.2.5
#973 [10:17] <MCDanny> i first noticed it while playing sp in tekkit
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#975 [10:18] <Grim> You have antivirus softwar?
#976 [10:18] <MCDanny> and yesterday i thought well screw tekkit i can still play normal mc and then the lags were there too so i thought wtf i have to fix this seems like a java problem
#977 [10:18] <MCDanny> yep avast
#978 [10:18] <Grim> Do you have any client mods operating?
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#980 [10:19] <Grim> want to run DXdiag for me and shove it in pastebin
#981 [10:19] <MCDanny> uuuhm mc? i have reis minimap and tmi nothing else
#982 [10:20] <MCDanny> yep
#983 [10:20] <MCDanny> wait
#984 [10:22] <MCDanny> here you go http://pastebin.com/n6nV6rzP
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#986 [10:23] <Grim> Then whilst I read through the report if you could go back to msconfig, click on the start up tab and disable all, then click on the services tab, and clcik hide all Microsoft then click disable all then click apply then ok.. then restart your computer.. then load up minecraft and see if there is an improvment or not :) services
#987 [10:23] <Grim> then come back here :)
#988 [10:23] <Grim> And tell me that it is still giving issues.
#989 [10:23] <Grim> :)
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#991 [10:24] <MCDanny> ok
#992 [10:27] <MCDanny> wow wait a sec..
#993 [10:28] <MCDanny> before i restart - i think the lag is gone because of something we did before
#994 [10:28] <MCDanny> lets see what it was again..
#995 [10:28] <MCDanny> maybe utorrent
#996 [10:28] <MCDanny> would be insane if that was it
#997 [10:30] <MCDanny> wow looks like it really was utorrent..
#998 [10:30] <Grim> Well I would still do the next step..
#999 [10:30] <MCDanny> it usually lags the most on my server but now it doesnt
#1000 [10:30] <MCDanny> yeah so that my machine runs a bit faster when not playing anyway
#1001 [10:30] <MCDanny> good idea brb
#1002 [10:30] <Grim> When you get back in to windows, open msconfig again.
#1003 [10:30] <MCDanny> kk cya then
#1004 [10:30] <Grim> and select programs in startup folder you need.
#1005 [10:31] <Grim> And then go through your services and select ones you think you need.
#1006 [10:31] <MCDanny> ok cya in a minute
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#1008 [10:31] <Grim> rgr
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#1010 [10:37] <MCDanny> sup
#1011 [10:37] <Grim> Wow his boot time is criminal.
#1012 [10:37] <Grim> welcome back.
#1013 [10:37] <Grim> Ok fire up MC for me.
#1014 [10:37] <Grim> go play having pressed F3
#1015 [10:37] <MCDanny> i know i went away for a minute aswell to get a drink :D
#1016 [10:37] <Grim> :)
#1017 [10:38] <Grim> Ahh kept me waiting,... pffft
#1018 [10:38] <MCDanny> so the pc was running a bit without me
#1019 [10:38] <MCDanny> im sorry honey :D
#1020 [10:38] <Grim> Well I read your DXdiag, all hunky dory on that level, well .. I might increase my page file..
#1021 [10:38] <Grim> sorry decrease..
#1022 [10:38] <Grim> but other than that.
#1023 [10:39] <MCDanny> why? sorry im not an expert im more of a guy who knows some sh't when it comes to pcs :P
#1024 [10:39] <Grim> Ditto.
#1025 [10:40] <Grim> We live we learn we teach :)
#1026 [10:40] <Grim> If it cures it great if it does not well I would have tried.
#1027 [10:40] <Grim> So anyway how is MC FPS loking now?
#1028 [10:40] <Grim> Any dips?
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#1030 [10:40] <MCDanny> not yet
#1031 [10:41] <MCDanny> im gonna see how it looks on mp wait a sec
#1032 [10:41] <Grim> Do you feel comfortable going back top MSconfig and putting back in your startup programs "keep" the ones you can not live without only!
#1033 [10:42] <Grim> ie. Antivirus, Direct pornUlike.exe etc.
#1034 [10:42] <MCDanny> nah didnt see any except my antivirus :D
#1035 [10:42] <Grim> ok then..
#1036 [10:42] <MCDanny> what porn?
#1037 [10:42] <MCDanny> :D
#1038 [10:42] <Grim> in services, select all that you recognize,
#1039 [10:42] <Grim> Was a joke :)
#1040 [10:43] <MCDanny> i know
#1041 [10:43] <MCDanny> :O
#1042 [10:43] <Grim> Sorry I think you are German you may not get my sense of humor.
#1043 [10:43] <MCDanny> i keep my porn somewhere else... hehe :D
#1044 [10:43] <MCDanny> im not german
#1045 [10:43] <MCDanny> im austrian :D
#1046 [10:43] <Grim> Sorry you and your Germon OS.
#1047 [10:43] <Grim> .. Ahh I c :)
#1048 [10:43] <Grim> One of those Germans :p
#1049 [10:44] <MCDanny> and i got that it was a joke .. >.
#1050 [10:44] <MCDanny> wut
#1051 [10:44] <MCDanny> ctcp?
#1052 [10:44] <Grim> Sorry, that was only funny to me, the rest of the world saw that as Racist.
#1053 [10:44] <MCDanny> wutchu talkn' bout willis?
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#1055 [10:45] <MCDanny> ha i dont think you can be racist towards germans/austrians(we're basically the same only that the austrians are far more relaxed) :D
#1056 [10:45] <Boreeas> lies
#1057 [10:45] <MCDanny> D:
#1058 [10:45] <MCDanny> it da truth man
#1059 [10:46] <Grim> So how did mp work out for you?
#1060 [10:46] <MCDanny> i've never been offended by a joke about germans/austrians :D
#1061 [10:46] <Grim> Same freaking clan..
#1062 [10:47] <MCDanny> the only people who offend me are those idiots who are like "where are you from? :)" and i say austria and they're like "eeew nazi."
#1063 [10:47] <MCDanny> those guys piss me off
#1064 [10:47] <Grim> that of course being European.... now that was probably most offensive statement.
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#1066 [10:48] <Grim> So how does Multiplayer go for you now?
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#1068 [10:49] <MCDanny> oooh god the fps lag started again
#1069 [10:49] <MCDanny> and it started in sp aswell
#1070 [10:49] <MCDanny> god damn it
#1071 [10:49] <MCDanny> so close.jpg
#1072 [10:49] <Grim> go back to resource monitor pls.
#1073 [10:50] <MCDanny> si
#1074 [10:50] <Grim> Find the highest system usage programs...
#1075 [10:50] <Grim> and close each one.
#1076 [10:51] <MCDanny> javaw.exe and chorm
#1077 [10:51] <MCDanny> chrome
#1078 [10:51] <Grim> erm ok..
#1079 [10:51] <Grim> then hold I have a thought.
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#1081 [10:54] <Grim> I need your information, well more expressly your PC's resource data as asnapshot.
#1082 [10:55] <MCDanny> why dont we just use teamviewer ..
#1083 [10:55] <MCDanny> xD
#1084 [10:55] <MCDanny> that would make it easier for you and for me
#1085 [10:55] <Grim> Not a freaking chance buddy but yes would simplify things :)
#1086 [10:56] <MCDanny> why not?
#1087 [10:56] <Grim> Want to give me your ip addy?
#1088 [10:56] <MCDanny> i mean you can log onto my laptop and then you could to stuff easier
#1089 [10:56] <MCDanny> xD
#1090 [10:57] <Grim> I can view your reliability and resource monitor from here without teamvier
#1091 [10:57] <Grim> buit I have my methods.
#1092 [10:57] <MCDanny> ok but why dont you wanna use teamviewer it would make this all a lot easier xD
#1093 [10:58] <Grim> My network is as sacred as I can afford it.
#1094 [10:58] <MCDanny> ??? you log onto MY pc xD
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#1096 [11:00] <Andrio> !check 24.239.2.35:25588
#1097 [11:00] <MCDanny> hello... grim?
#1098 [11:01] <Grim> I am busy reasearching
#1099 [11:01] <Grim> researching
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#1103 [11:05] <obi_wan> HELP!! im hac
#1104 [11:05] <MCDanny> hurry up i ain't got all day.. :P
#1105 [11:06] <MCDanny> i wanna go to sleep man
#1106 [11:06] <obi_wan> im having trouble downloading el
#1107 [11:06] <Grim> lol goto sleep :)
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#1109 [11:06] <Grim> I'll be around working on your behalf till I have a full solution..
#1110 [11:06] <MCDanny> NO.
#1111 [11:06] <obi_wan> emental arrow mod on serever can anyone help
#1112 [11:06] <Grim> Could take me a while.
#1113 [11:06] <Grim> But Ill get there.
#1114 [11:07] <MCDanny> ok ill go to sleep ill report back in a few hours
#1115 [11:07] <MCDanny> thanks
#1116 [11:07] <MCDanny> bye
#1117 [11:07] <Grim> OK say 2100
#1118 [11:07] <Grim> I'll try to be here
#1119 [11:07] <obi_wan> HELP!! im having trouble installing elemental arrow mod on my server can anyone help?
#1120 [11:07] <MCDanny> ok thanks man
#1121 [11:07] <MCDanny> i appreciate it
#1122 [11:08] <obi_wan> HELP!! im having trouble installing elemental arrow mod on my server can anyone help?
#1123 [11:08] <MCDanny> bye guys :*
#1124 [11:08] <obi_wan> HELP!! im having trouble installing elemental arrow mod on my server can anyone help?
#1125 [11:08] <obi_wan> HELP!! im having trouble installing elemental arrow mod on my server can anyone help?
#1126 [11:08] <Wesley> this is not the help you are looking for
#1127 [11:08] <Denizen> Because you're spaming I don't think anyone is going to help you.
#1128 [11:08] <Denizen> spamming*
#1129 [11:08] <obi_wan> :P
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#1136 [11:10] <jvalamazoo123> ii got a new texture pack and now minecraft isnt working it keeps freezing and i cant delete the texture pack what shall i do?
#1137 [11:11] <jvalamazoo123> anyone
#1138 [11:11] <tikker> you can delet the texpack
#1139 [11:11] <tikker> *delete
#1140 [11:11] <jvalamazoo123> how?
#1141 [11:11] <tikker> go to %appdata%/.minecraft/texturepacks
#1142 [11:11] <tikker> and delete the texturepack
#1143 [11:12] <jvalamazoo123> thanks very much ill try it and come back
#1144 [11:12] <Denizen> you probably tried to install an HD texturepack without patching
#1145 [11:12] <Denizen> either that or you patched but your computer can't handle it
#1146 [11:12] <jvalamazoo123> i did patch
#1147 [11:12] <Denizen> what was the resolution of the pack?
#1148 [11:12] <jvalamazoo123> it was 512x512 i must admit
#1149 [11:12] <jvalamazoo123> lol
#1150 [11:12] <Denizen> that must be it.
#1151 [11:12] <Wesley> jesus
#1152 [11:12] <Wesley> 512x512?
#1153 [11:12] <Wesley> what is this, a minecraft for Watson?
#1154 [11:13] <Denizen> some people want skyrim with blocks.
#1155 [11:13] <Wesley> i honestly liked minecraft without all the shading and textures
#1156 [11:13] <Wesley> reminded me of the Nintendo 64 era, as much as i (mostly) loathed it
#1157 [11:13] <Wesley> i prefer the Super Nintendo Entertainment System
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#1159 [11:14] <jvalamazoo123> jesus christ it was 79 mb no wonder
#1160 [11:16] <jvalamazoo123> it works now thaks guys!!
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#1176 [11:47] <umut573> anyone there?
#1177 [11:48] <TheChrizzy> Hi IRC :) In about half a year now, it has not been possible to turn on the sound on my Minecraft. When i do, it chrashes, and i have to open it again (No Error Log or anything). I think i've tried everything. For example: I've tried to reinstall Minecraft, where i bombed it completely, and deleted everything that had something to do with Minecraft... Could it be a .dll file that can have caused it?
#1178 [11:48] <umut573> hi
#1179 [11:49] <umut573> i guess there's nobody to answer our questions :(
#1180 [11:49] <TheChrizzy> Hi can u help me?
#1181 [11:49] <TheChrizzy> Hmmm
#1182 [11:49] <umut573> umm
#1183 [11:50] <umut573> i cannot solve ur problem
#1184 [11:50] <umut573> i dont know aything about what you told
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#1186 [11:51] <TheChrizzy> ... Well then i have to wait...
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#1188 [11:52] <Calinou> thebadshepperd, what operating system are you using? classic or full game?
#1189 [11:52] <Calinou> fu-
#1190 [11:53] <umut573> ?
#1191 [11:53] <Calinou> he left, and now I highlighted a staff.
#1192 [11:53] <Calinou> umut573, don't ask to ask
#1193 [11:53] <Calinou> just ask
#1194 [11:53] <umut573> ummm
#1195 [11:53] <umut573> wll
#1196 [11:53] <umut573> hold on
#1197 [11:55] <umut573> i'll nearly find
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#1199 [12:00] <Eddie> No I'm not here, umut573
#1200 [12:01] <umut573> :)
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#1211 [12:20] <dbrzezin> Hello. I just bought a Mac G5 (dual core 2.0 GHZ processors). Can I install Minecraft on it? Also, can I download on a flash (from another computer) to install on the G5? Thx
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#1214 [12:22] <Scott> dbrzezin: Probably not.
#1215 [12:23] <Scott> I don't even know if Java supports PowerPC processors.
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#1220 [12:33] <oostcoast> Are the locations of the blocks relative or absolute, in the world files
#1221 [12:33] <oostcoast> +?
#1222 [12:34] <oostcoast> I need to copy one part of the map over to another, but I also have to move it abit
#1223 [12:34] <oostcoast> Is that possible
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#1225 [12:35] <Calinou> Scott, it does, but only up to java 5... iirc minecraft works with java 5 but I'm not sure
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#1227 [12:36] <Scott> Calinou: it definitely don't
#1228 [12:36] <Scott> doesn't*
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#1231 [12:50] <Calinou> oostcoast, no, you can't, but you could use a map editor such as MCedit.
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#1234 [12:51] <oostcoast> MCedit is not likely to corrupt chunks?
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#1236 [12:56] <IsaacEden> I just downloaded Minecraft. Everytime I try to exit the Inventory, the game crashes.
#1237 [12:56] <Calinou> no, just don't run minecraft at the same time you use it
#1238 [12:56] <Calinou> IsaacEden, what operating system are you using? classic or full game?
#1239 [12:56] <IsaacEden> full
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#1244 [13:03] <IsaacEden> Let me know if you need the crash report--I did paste it into http://pastebin.com/0bkRub4x
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#1248 [13:07] <Rokas> I cannot run minecraft. I reinstalled it, also reinstalled java and it still doesn't work.
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#1255 [13:14] <gart2go> Anyone understand bookshelf placement for enchanting? I can't seem to get more than level 18 enchantments; can the bookshelves be at a higher or lower level than the enchanting table? How far away? It seems to have changed in 1.3...
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#1259 [13:18] <Calinou> gart2go, minecraftwiki.net/enchant
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#1261 [13:19] <gart2go> Not updated.
#1262 [13:19] <gart2go> But thanks, Calinou.
#1263 [13:19] <Calinou> it IS updated
#1264 [13:19] <Calinou> the wiki can be edited by anyone, which is a force; you can read the history and see the changes
#1265 [13:20] <null_fahrenheit> how can I find out what sections are in these forum?
#1266 [13:20] <Calinou> before saying "not updated" I advise reading the page
#1267 [13:20] <Calinou> null_fahrenheit, what do you mean? elaborate please
#1268 [13:20] <gart2go> It explicitly says "This page contains content about features that are outdated, or have been removed from the game. Please help update this page to Minecraft 1.3."
#1269 [13:20] <Calinou> IsaacEden, does this happen every time? singleplayer or multiplayer?
#1270 [13:20] <null_fahrenheit> like #minecrafthelp
#1271 [13:20] <gart2go> Oh, and it's not working the way it describes, wsince I can't get enchantments above level 18...
#1272 [13:21] <Calinou> http://media-mcw.cursecdn.com/a/a5/Books_optimal.png
#1273 [13:21] <Calinou> gart2go, oh okay, see the image then
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#1275 [13:21] <IsaacEden> yes, it happens every single time. Haven't tried multi-player yet.
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#1277 [13:22] <null_fahrenheit> or ask in another way: what are valid arguments for "/join"?
#1278 [13:23] <gart2go> I see the image... And tried it, and cannot get enchantment levels above 18! (I also want to know if that is the only possible way to get that level. Can I put a bookshelf at a higher or lower level and still get the max enchantment level?)
#1279 [13:23] <Calinou> null_fahrenheit, channel and key: /join #channel password
#1280 [13:24] <Calinou> most channels do not have a password
#1281 [13:24] <Calinou> thus you just do /jiin #channel
#1282 [13:24] <Calinou> gart2go, you must NOT put any torches/levers/whatever between the bookshelves and the table
#1283 [13:24] <null_fahrenheit> what channels exist?
#1284 [13:24] <Calinou> this is very important
#1285 [13:24] <Calinou> null_fahrenheit, /list
#1286 [13:24] <Calinou> (beware, it's very long. it's the list of channels on the /whole/ network)
#1287 [13:24] <gart2go> Calinou... AHA!
#1288 [13:24] <gart2go> Thanks!
#1289 [13:24] <Calinou> no problem :)
#1290 [13:24] <null_fahrenheit> ok, and what commands exist?
#1291 [13:25] <Calinou> gart2go, if you still want some kind of lighting you can put a glowstone/jack o lantern floor or put the torches above the bookshelves
#1292 [13:25] <Calinou> null_fahrenheit, /help
#1293 [13:25] <Calinou> (the output can vary depending on your client)
#1294 [13:25] <gart2go> Fixed!
#1295 [13:25] <gart2go> Thank you so much, canlinou!
#1296 [13:25] <null_fahrenheit> calinou, no output come
#1297 [13:26] <null_fahrenheit> / help
#1298 [13:26] <null_fahrenheit> calinou, it just vanishes
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#1300 [13:26] <gart2go> It also means that when I want to cast a enchantment with a lower level, I can use torches to block high level spells... Easy.
#1301 [13:27] <IsaacEden> Calinou - It happens every single time in single player. Haven't tried multi-player yet.
#1302 [13:28] <Calinou> IsaacEden, ok... you could try force-updating. start the game, in the launcher options click "force update" and log in
#1303 [13:28] <Calinou> this will redownload the game files (this doesn't touch singleplayer saves)
#1304 [13:29] <IsaacEden> Calinou - I will try it. thanks!
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#1306 [13:32] <null_fahrenheit> sorry, but why /help does not work?
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#1308 [13:33] <null_fahrenheit> same as /list
#1309 [13:34] <Calinou> both are aliases/client-side commands, thus some clients don't have these
#1310 [13:34] <Calinou> there are over 3500 channels on this network anyway, lots of them have few users anyway
#1311 [13:34] <Boreeas> I'm pretty sure that LIST and HELP are server-side commands
#1312 [13:35] <Calinou> if you want a general discussion channel there's #minecraft but you have to be logged in to nickserv first (see /ns help)
#1313 [13:35] <Calinou> Boreeas, yes, but /list is probably an alias, and /help is definitely client side
#1314 [13:35] <Boreeas> Yep, both are handled by the server
#1315 [13:35] <Calinou> oh?
#1316 [13:35] <Calinou> /help replies instantly for me, this means it is clientside (xchat)
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#1318 [13:35] <Boreeas> Oh, I sent /HELP
#1319 [13:36] <Boreeas> Anyway, I need to go
#1320 [13:36] <Calinou> bye
#1321 [13:36] <null_fahrenheit> the secret ws, the help output is in the status-section
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#1324 [13:40] <null_fahrenheit> Ok, but seriously: i often fall in the void, dieing, the game is lost. any way to save this kind of games?
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#1326 [13:43] <null_fahrenheit> i often ask in this chat and get no answer - but there are so many logged in. its amazing.
#1327 [13:44] <null_fahrenheit> what is this? a cluster of sleeping trees?
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#1329 [13:45] <null_fahrenheit> why they are logged in? to show their togetherness?
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#1331 [13:46] <null_fahrenheit> they are all joining, its a kind of automatism
#1332 [13:47] <null_fahrenheit> they changed to a kind of robot
#1333 [13:47] <Calinou> null_fahrenheit, this is IRC; people can freely idle and stay there if they want; patience is expected and you shouldn't ask to ask, use enter as punctuation or spam
#1334 [13:47] <Calinou> most people join several channels at once
#1335 [13:47] <null_fahrenheit> and was is the sense of it?
#1336 [13:48] <Morrolan> Staying on top of the news.
#1337 [13:48] <Morrolan> E.g. I'm in channels of most plugins I'm using on my server, to be able to contact devs quickly if need be, and just to learn about recent development of those plugins.
#1338 [13:49] * Calinou is on 46 channels over 5 servers
#1338 [13:49] <null_fahrenheit> ok, that IS a sense
#1339 [13:49] <Calinou> people like to listen around ;)
#1340 [13:49] <null_fahrenheit> this is not a good place to get help. my expierience
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#1342 [13:50] <Morrolan> I'd go as far as saying it's the best free support you'll get, if you've got some patience.
#1343 [13:50] <Calinou> probably less than a forum, but you usually get quicker help here; IRC was not designed to "today"'s generation, too, in my opinion
#1344 [13:50] <Morrolan> Ofcourse, the forum people will claim it's the forum, and Mojang will claim it's their support e-mail ;D
#1345 [13:50] <Calinou> patience is _required_, and not everyone has patience today :P
#1346 [13:50] <Calinou> their email support is slow
#1347 [13:50] <Morrolan> You could say so, yes.
#1348 [13:50] <Calinou> IRC protocol was created back in 1995 if i recall correctly and wasn't changed since
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#1350 [13:51] <Calinou> ehm, 1988
#1351 [13:51] <Morrolan> Backlog is over two months, yay. Doesn't seem as if they're catching up. :S http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1352 [13:52] <null_fahrenheit> ok, patience. its annoying to wait and wait and dont know if someone has read the question
#1353 [13:52] <Morrolan> That's what patience is all about, I suppose. ;)
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#1355 [13:53] <King09x> Hey, Im having trouble modding a reed-like block. If I break the block in adventure mode it gives the game an "Internal Server Error" any ideas? I basically just coppied the code from the reed item and reed block classes?
#1356 [13:53] <null_fahrenheit> Ok, but seriously: i often fall in the void, dieing, the game is lost. any way to save this kind of games?
#1357 [13:53] <Morrolan> King09x - Might want to ask in #risucraft - that's where the modders reside.
#1358 [13:53] <King09x> Ahh alright, thank you very much/
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#1360 [13:53] <Morrolan> null_fahrenheit - Err, when you respawn, don't you respawn somewhere safe? oO
#1361 [13:54] <Morrolan> Either way, you could use software like MCEdit or NBTEdit to move your player somewhere else.
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#1363 [13:54] <Morrolan> (MCEdit is a mapeditor, NBTEdit would allow you to enter the player's coordinates manually)
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#1365 [13:54] <Morrolan> Back in a tad, gotta fetch my lenses out of my eyes.
#1366 [13:56] <null_fahrenheit> ok, thx. a thought to patience here: would you wait at a traffic light, if you dont know if its ever changes to green?
#1367 [13:56] <Morrolan> If I absolutely had to cross that crossroad? Yes.
#1368 [13:57] <Morrolan> None forces you to wait in here for an answer, but if you haven't got help anywhere else, you don't have much of a choice.
#1369 [13:59] <null_fahrenheit> ok, thats all. ill try the suggested tools. thank you
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#1374 [14:01] <kimplix> hi
#1375 [14:03] * Morrolan waves
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#1378 [14:08] <skyy> I am playing minecraft in a browser, and as i dig it keeps bringing up the game menu. how do i stop/ fix this?
#1379 [14:08] <Morrolan> Huh. Does the standalone client have the same issue? (The one you can get from http://www.minecraft.net/download)
#1380 [14:09] <skyy> typically not, i am not on a computer i can download it though.
#1381 [14:10] <Morrolan> Is that computer running "Constant guard by Comcast"?
#1382 [14:10] <skyy> unsure
#1383 [14:10] <Morrolan> This piece of security software is known to mess with input, but generally it leads to much heavier issues than simply bringing up the game menu when you try to dig.
#1384 [14:10] <skyy> thanks.
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#1386 [14:11] <Morrolan> Not too sure what might be causing this issue if it isn't Comcast's security software, but feel free to stick around, maybe someone else has an idea.
#1387 [14:11] <Eddie> Who in their right mind would write a game in such a way that the game menu can appear WHILE you're playing?
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#1390 [14:11] <Danny> Help...
#1391 [14:11] <Danny> Someone stole my gift code and I didn't give it to them..
#1392 [14:11] <Morrolan> Danny - How do you know?
#1393 [14:12] <Danny> I bought a gift code.
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#1395 [14:12] <Danny> And.
#1396 [14:12] <Danny> Now when I checked it.
#1397 [14:12] <Danny> It said someone took it.
#1398 [14:12] <Danny> redeemed.
#1399 [14:12] <Morrolan> Where did you buy that giftcode from?
#1400 [14:12] <Danny> I bought it from Minecraft.net
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#1402 [14:13] <Morrolan> I've never seen a giftcode actually being stolen. Does someone but you have access to your Minecraft account?
#1403 [14:13] <Danny> Nope.
#1404 [14:13] <Danny> I think I've been RAT'd.
#1405 [14:13] <Morrolan> Also, you might want to make sure that your credit card provider / bank didn't (accidentally) reverse the payment.
#1406 [14:13] <Danny> I removed a virus though.
#1407 [14:14] <Danny> And they didn't. ^^
#1408 [14:14] <Danny> It was redemmed by someone I don't know.
#1409 [14:14] <Morrolan> Then you'll have to contact Mojang. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/353966-my-gift-code-does-not-work
#1410 [14:14] <Morrolan> They are backlogged by two months, though.
#1411 [14:14] <Danny> Backlogged?
#1412 [14:15] <Morrolan> Working on emails from two months ago.
#1413 [14:15] <Morrolan> That is, nearly three months.
#1414 [14:15] <Danny> OK..
#1415 [14:15] <Danny> I think I deleted the email with Transaction..
#1416 [14:15] <Morrolan> Before you do that though, does the gift code show up as "redeemed" on minecraft.net/profile ?
#1417 [14:16] <Danny> Yes.
#1418 [14:16] <Morrolan> If you payed with PayPal you can check the transaction ID in its history. If you payed with your credit card it'll be on your credit card statement.
#1419 [14:16] <Danny> I can't check my Debit Card statement.
#1420 [14:16] <Danny> It comes once a month.
#1421 [14:17] <Morrolan> Either call the provider and ask them about this transaction ID, or wait for the bill to arrive.
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#1423 [14:17] <Morrolan> Should be in the next few days, considering that it's nearly end of the month.
#1424 [14:17] <Danny> The bill has already been here.
#1425 [14:17] <Morrolan> Then check it?
#1426 [14:18] <Danny> I threw it in the trash..
#1427 [14:18] <Morrolan> <.<
#1428 [14:18] <Morrolan> Reorder it from your credit card provider.
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#1430 [14:18] <Danny> I do that just for a Minecraft Code..
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#1432 [14:19] <Morrolan> You can also just buy a new one, if you prefer.
#1433 [14:19] <heatedunderwear> minecraft will not work on my macbook pro
#1434 [14:19] <Morrolan> heatedunderwear - Be a tad more specific, please.
#1435 [14:19] <Danny> I don't want to buy a new one..
#1436 [14:19] <Danny> I want it renewed.
#1437 [14:19] <Morrolan> Danny - Then reorder your credit card statement and contact Mojang.
#1438 [14:20] <heatedunderwear> best running theory is bad video drivers any suggestions?
#1439 [14:20] <Danny> What's a code called?
#1440 [14:20] <Morrolan> Danny - Just ask them to provide you with the full record for that specific transaction, not sure how it shows up on the record exactly.
#1441 [14:20] <Morrolan> heatedunderwear - What happens when you try to launch Minecraft, then?
#1442 [14:21] <heatedunderwear> it opens and then it gets up to the point when the mojang logo should appear and it crashes
#1443 [14:21] <Danny> Have you installed/added any mods?
#1444 [14:21] <Morrolan> Do you know how to launch it through the terminal?
#1445 [14:21] <Morrolan> As for video drivers - Apple doesn't allow you to touch these.
#1446 [14:21] <heatedunderwear> nope this is day 2 of owning a mac
#1447 [14:22] <Danny> Who can code Java?
#1448 [14:22] <Danny> I need a coder.
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#1450 [14:22] <Morrolan> Find the terminal (Through the search function would be easiest, but it should be somewhere in apple menu -> utilities -> terminal IIRC)
#1451 [14:22] <Morrolan> Once you got that one, download the .jar launcher from https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar?20387154244595
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#1453 [14:23] <Danny> Who's good at Java?
#1454 [14:23] <Morrolan> I believe you should then be able to just drag the .jar file into the terminal. When it crashes, an error will show up in there. Paste that one on www.pastebin.com or similar.
#1455 [14:23] <Morrolan> Danny - Try #coders
#1456 [14:23] <Danny> Where..
#1457 [14:23] <Danny> How do I get there
#1458 [14:23] <Morrolan> "/join #coders"
#1459 [14:23] <Danny> Thanks babe
#1460 [14:23] <Morrolan> Don't think we've got a relationship.
#1461 [14:23] <Danny> Sure we have. ;)
#1462 [14:24] <heatedunderwear> says I don't got permission
#1463 [14:25] <Eddie> Morrolan: Don't fight it!
#1464 [14:25] * Morrolan scratches head.
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#1465 [14:25] <Eddie> lol
#1466 [14:25] <heatedunderwear> -bash: /Users/HeatedUnderwear/Downloads/minecraft.jar: Permission denied Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ HeatedUnderwear$
#1467 [14:26] <Morrolan> Eddie - Hey, you own a Mac, don't you? (Or was that Scott only?)
#1468 [14:26] <Eddie> >:(
#1469 [14:26] * Eddie points at Scott
#1469 [14:26] <Morrolan> heatedunderwear - Uh, navigate to the same folder the .jar resides in, then issue a "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#1470 [14:27] <heatedunderwear> huh?
#1471 [14:27] <heatedunderwear> like the bin folder?
#1472 [14:27] <Morrolan> Nah, the folder to where you downloaded the .jar launcher.
#1473 [14:27] <Morrolan> (Which is not the same .jar as the one in minecraft/bin)
#1474 [14:27] <Sophia> ewwwwwww
#1475 [14:28] <Morrolan> Eh, actually it might be easier to create a new textfile in the same folder the .jar launcher is in, and put "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" in that one, then save it as "run.sh" or similar.
#1476 [14:28] <Morrolan> Then execute that one. (Dragging it into the console should work)
#1477 [14:28] <heatedunderwear> okay
#1478 [14:28] <Morrolan> Eddie - What operating system are you using, actually? :)
#1479 [14:29] <Eddie> Ubuntu
#1480 [14:29] <Morrolan> Ah. :)
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#1484 [14:32] <heatedunderwear> permission denied again
#1485 [14:34] <Morrolan> Err, does "chmod +x minecraft.jar" (In the same folder the .jar launcher resides) help?
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#1488 [14:34] <oldtopman> Morrolan: You have to chmod the script.
#1489 [14:35] <Morrolan> Oh, yea, forgot about us using a script right now.
#1490 [14:35] <Morrolan> Yea, chmod the script instead. (or chmod the .jar, and launch that one directly again)
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#1492 [14:37] <heatedunderwear> what?
#1493 [14:38] <heatedunderwear> what's chmod?
#1494 [14:38] <Morrolan> Hmm, let's try something which I have no clue whether it works. Type "chmod +x" in the terminal, but do not hit enter yet. THEN drag the .sh file into the terminal.
#1495 [14:38] <Morrolan> chmod is a utility to change a file's permissions, in this case make it executable.
#1496 [14:38] <heatedunderwear> okay
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#1501 [14:40] <heatedunderwear> lost connection
#1502 [14:40] <Aino> hey o/ -- is there somewhere a channel with craftbukkit help? Can't find it online
#1503 [14:40] <heatedunderwear> usage: chmod [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-a | +a | =a [i][# [ n]]] mode|entry file ... chmod [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-E | -C | -N | -i | -I] file ...
#1504 [14:41] <heatedunderwear> is what I got
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#1506 [14:41] <SuperTemplar> I feel real stupid, but how do you add a snapshot to your minecraft? I am doing snapshot 12w34b.
#1507 [14:42] <Morrolan> Aino - #bukkit would be the channel to ask. :)
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#1509 [14:42] <Morrolan> SuperTemplar - Drop the downloaded minecraft.jar into the .minecraft/bin folder
#1510 [14:42] <Aino> thx
#1511 [14:42] <heatedunderwear> http://pastebin.com/mnpEY7Ki is the error
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#1513 [14:43] <Morrolan> You ARE using the minecraft.jar from http://www.minecraft.net/download and not the one from ~/minecraft/bin, right?
#1514 [14:44] <heatedunderwear> the one from the link you sent me
#1515 [14:44] <Morrolan> That should be fine then.
#1516 [14:44] <SuperTemplar> I download a fresh set of files from minecraft.net, yes.
#1517 [14:44] <Morrolan> oldtopman - NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame when trying to launch the .jar - any ideas?
#1518 [14:45] <Morrolan> The launcher .jar, that is.
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#1520 [14:45] <oldtopman> Morrolan: "java -jar minecraft.jar", try that.
#1521 [14:46] <Morrolan> heatedunderwear - Open the .sh file again, and replace the line in there with "java -jar minecraft.jar", then drop it into the terminal again.
#1522 [14:46] <heatedunderwear> okay
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#1524 [14:48] <heatedunderwear> Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
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#1526 [14:51] <heatedunderwear> morrolan it came up with "Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar"
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#1531 [14:55] <SuperTemplar> The error I get from trying to load the snapshot is: java.lang.SecurityException: SHA1 digest error for aux.class (I looked to see where the class file is, and says it is a "File" not a "class file" like the rest...)
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#1534 [15:00] <MCDanny> hey im here grim
#1535 [15:00] <MCDanny> hey im here grim
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#1539 [15:01] <lydia_> hi
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#1541 [15:02] <lydia_> i'm trying to set up a minecraft server on windows- i have downloaded the setup but when i try to run it, nothing comes up, i have tried restarting my computer but that does nothing
#1542 [15:02] <qwertytrains> Right...
#1543 [15:03] <lydia_> i have downloaded it about 4 times and none of them do anything when i try to run it, help please?
#1544 [15:03] <qwertytrains> Which one did you download
#1545 [15:03] <qwertytrains> The minecraftserver.exe
#1546 [15:03] <lydia_> Minecraft_Server.exe
#1547 [15:03] <lydia_> yes
#1548 [15:03] <qwertytrains> Try downloading one called minecraft_server.jar
#1549 [15:04] <qwertytrains> And double click that
#1550 [15:04] <qwertytrains> Also
#1551 [15:04] <qwertytrains> Once you have run it
#1552 [15:04] <qwertytrains> Configure the files in serverpropities
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#1554 [15:04] <qwertytrains> If all else fails
#1555 [15:05] <qwertytrains> Try using bukkit
#1556 [15:05] <lydia_> going to try downloading the .jar one to see if that does anything...
#1557 [15:05] <qwertytrains> Okay
#1558 [15:05] <lydia_> and what is bukkit?
#1559 [15:05] <qwertytrains> You have port forwarded haven't you
#1560 [15:06] <lydia_> no...
#1561 [15:06] <qwertytrains> Bukkit is a custom minecraft server software
#1562 [15:06] <lydia_> oops is that where i have gone wrong?
#1563 [15:06] <qwertytrains> Okay
#1564 [15:06] <qwertytrains> No and yes
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#1566 [15:07] <lydia_> ok so i need to do that before i can run the windows file?
#1567 [15:07] <qwertytrains> No one can access it without doing it
#1568 [15:07] <lydia_> oh the .jar one didn't do anything either.
#1569 [15:07] <qwertytrains> Hmm...
#1570 [15:07] <lydia_> ok, i will look it up on youtube :)
#1571 [15:07] <qwertytrains> Right
#1572 [15:07] <qwertytrains> What operating system do you have
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#1574 [15:08] <lydia_> windows 7
#1575 [15:08] <qwertytrains> Okay
#1576 [15:08] <qwertytrains> Go to start
#1577 [15:08] <lydia_> i will try to port foward
#1578 [15:08] <lydia_> yes
#1579 [15:08] <qwertytrains> And in the search bar type cmd and press enter
#1580 [15:08] <lydia_> and do the ipconfig thing? i have done that
#1581 [15:08] <qwertytrains> Yeah
#1582 [15:09] <qwertytrains> Get you default gateway
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#1584 [15:09] <lydia_> but when i type in my ip in the address bar, it says no wep page found
#1585 [15:09] <qwertytrains> And put that in your address bar
#1586 [15:09] <qwertytrains> It isn't your ip
#1587 [15:09] <lydia_> well, the ipv4
#1588 [15:09] <qwertytrains> It is something next to it called default gateway
#1589 [15:09] <lydia_> i put the ipv4 in and nothing came up
#1590 [15:09] <lydia_> ok
#1591 [15:09] <lydia_> let me look
#1592 [15:10] <lydia_> AWWWWW thats it
#1593 [15:10] <qwertytrains> Right
#1594 [15:10] <lydia_> i was looking at youtube tutorials and they had that too but i thought it was the ipv4
#1595 [15:10] <qwertytrains> Right
#1596 [15:10] <lydia_> shall i port foward now?
#1597 [15:11] <qwertytrains> Yeah
#1598 [15:11] <lydia_> ok brb
#1599 [15:11] <qwertytrains> If you know how
#1600 [15:11] <qwertytrains> Oh
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#1602 [15:11] <lydia_> yeah i will look on youtube
#1603 [15:11] <qwertytrains> And what antivirus do you have
#1604 [15:11] <lydia_> haha youtube is the answer to everything....
#1605 [15:11] <qwertytrains> If any
#1606 [15:11] <lydia_> erm...none?
#1607 [15:11] <lydia_> :/
#1608 [15:11] <qwertytrains> If not
#1609 [15:11] <qwertytrains> You have windows firewall enabled?
#1610 [15:12] <lydia_> yes i think so, yes.
#1611 [15:12] <qwertytrains> You will have to add the port to the windows firewall port exemptions
#1612 [15:13] <qwertytrains> Like you said YouTube is the answer to everything
#1613 [15:13] <lydia_> ok let me search youtube
#1614 [15:13] <lydia_> lol
#1615 [15:13] <qwertytrains> Ima afk
#1616 [15:13] <lydia_> ok brb
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#1626 [15:22] <SuperTemplar> how do you add a snapshot to your minecraft? I am doing snapshot 12w34b.
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#1629 [15:24] <lydia_> HEY i need help again! :/
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#1631 [15:25] <SuperTemplar> Every time I try adding the files for the snapshot to my jar I get an error.
#1632 [15:25] <lydia_> i'm trying to port foward and i can't log into 192.168.1.1
#1633 [15:25] <lydia_> anyone here that can help us?
#1634 [15:26] <SuperTemplar> Be patient I guess, :)
#1635 [15:26] <lydia_> lol i was helped a couple of minutes ago
#1636 [15:26] <lydia_> though
#1637 [15:27] <SuperTemplar> I guess a lot of people are afk
#1638 [15:27] <lydia_> do you have a server?
#1639 [15:27] <SuperTemplar> no not yet
#1640 [15:27] <lydia_> aww i'mtrying to set one up but i need help
#1641 [15:27] <SuperTemplar> I have thought about starting one, but my brother says it is pretty hard
#1642 [15:28] <lydia_> well i've just been looking at youtube vids, doesn't look that hard but i have problems with trying to save and run files etc.
#1643 [15:28] <SuperTemplar> I know how that feels, usually saving and running is where it is the hardest. :/
#1644 [15:28] <lydia_> how can you be afk so long??
#1645 [15:29] <SuperTemplar> Many ways
#1646 [15:29] <lydia_> please explain....
#1647 [15:29] <xales> lydia_: If you can't log in to your router, then you can't port forward.
#1648 [15:29] <SuperTemplar> Eating, chores, go somewhere, many ways.
#1649 [15:29] <xales> You need to find out what the required credentials are; if it's not your router, then you probably can't do that.
#1650 [15:30] <lydia_> yes! help! :)okay, i tried twice with the right user and password but when i press enter, nothing happens
#1651 [15:31] <xales> Perhaps try *clicking* the login button?
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#1653 [15:32] <lydia_> the only thing that's there is: The server 192.168.1.1:80 requires a username and password. The server says: DSL-2680.
#1654 [15:32] <xales> What browser are you using?
#1655 [15:32] <lydia_> but on a youtube vid, they only have the 1st sentance
#1656 [15:32] <lydia_> and ok i will try clicking login
#1657 [15:33] <xales> ._.
#1658 [15:33] <xales> A Youtube video is not exactly the best way to figure out how to port forward.
#1659 [15:34] <lydia_> clicking login doesn't do anything either :(
#1660 [15:34] <lydia_> ok, then, can you explain to me? :S i'm new to this stuff
#1661 [15:35] <xales> What browser are you using?
#1662 [15:35] <lydia_> Google Chrome
#1663 [15:36] <xales> Okay. What username/password are you trying to log in with?
#1664 [15:37] <lydia_> is it safe tosay my details on this?
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#1666 [15:37] <lydia_> my internet username and password?
#1667 [15:37] <xales> Uhm. You don't log in with an "Internet username and password"
#1668 [15:37] <xales> The username should be "admin" and the password should be blank, unless you explicitly set them yourself.
#1669 [15:38] <lydia_> ok let me try
#1670 [15:38] <gfsdf> When i play MC in browser theres nothing there
#1671 [15:38] <lydia_> nope just refreshes the page
#1672 [15:38] <xales> gfsdf: Do you have Java installed?
#1673 [15:38] <gfsdf> yes
#1674 [15:38] <lydia_> oh and same problem with gfsdh but i dont play it on that,
#1675 [15:39] <xales> gfsdf: Are you trying to play the demo?
#1676 [15:39] <xales> lydia_: You should ask whomever set up the router what the password to it is.
#1677 [15:39] <gfsdf> no
#1678 [15:39] <lydia_> i know, it says the username and password on the router
#1679 [15:40] <xales> gfsdf: Use the download, then.
#1680 [15:40] <xales> lydia_: Are you sure it's the username and password for the *router*?
#1681 [15:40] <jorboz> gfsdf: are you on a mac?
#1682 [15:40] <xales> Which is entirely unrelated to any other network settings, such as PPPoE credentials.
#1683 [15:41] <lydia_> well if its on the router,what else would it be????
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#1685 [15:41] <xales> lydia_: Is it on a note/sticker, or is on a label attached during manufacturing, like a serial number?
#1686 [15:42] <lydia_> its a sticker on the actual box
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#1688 [15:42] <xales> Is it handwritten?
#1689 [15:43] <lydia_> xales: no its printed on it
#1690 [15:43] <xales> Okay, well, regardless; if you can't find the username/password to log into the router with, then you won't be able to port forward.
#1691 [15:43] <xales> I can't pull the correct credentials from the ether from you.
#1692 [15:44] <lydia_> its what we use to connect to the internet soit has tobe right
#1693 [15:44] <xales> Okay, well, as I just said.
#1694 [15:44] <lydia_> i have the username and password....
#1695 [15:44] <xales> The login for the ROUTER has nothing to do with what you use to log in to the INTERNET.
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#1697 [15:44] <xales> Just like the password to log in to your computer, has nothing to do with how you log in to the Internet.
#1698 [15:45] <lydia_> SORRY i dont know how to do this stuff
#1699 [15:45] <xales> A lack of knowledge isn't an excuse for a failure to listen.
#1700 [15:46] <xales> Regardless; if you don't have the correct username/password for the router, you will not be able to port forward.
#1701 [15:46] <lydia_> well, all i knowis you need a router to connect to the internet, so i assume its the same thing
#1702 [15:46] <Eddie> You don't need a router to connect to the internet.
#1703 [15:46] <lydia_> ok,now im confused.
#1704 [15:46] <xales> Eddie: You do, but that's just semantics. :p
#1705 [15:47] <xales> Eddie: Considering the Internet is just a whole lot of routers... :p
#1706 [15:47] <Eddie> WELL... :p
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#1708 [15:47] <xales> lydia_: It doesn't matter. If you can't log in to your router, you can't port forward.
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#1710 [15:47] <lydia_> :( raaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#1711 [15:48] <xales> If you *own* the router, as in "pay for the Internet connection entirely on your own" then you could possibly reset it to gain access. But if it belongs to your parents, or the building you live in, or something, then doing that would be a bad idea.
#1712 [15:48] <xales> In the latter case, you could perhaps ask permission.
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#1714 [15:48] <lydia_> what does that do?
#1715 [15:48] <xales> It would reset it...
#1716 [15:49] <xales> including resetting the username/password.
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#1724 [15:59] <Wolfproblem> hi everybody, i have a little problem with the wolf spawning may someone help?
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#1726 [16:00] <Wolfproblem> Wolfs keep spawning on my position and thats very annoying
#1727 [16:00] <xales> Are you using any mods?
#1728 [16:00] <Wolfproblem> no
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#1730 [16:01] <xales> Does the problem happen if you make a new world?
#1731 [16:01] <Wolfproblem> yes sometimes
#1732 [16:01] <xales> By "spawning" do you mean "occasionally" or "constantly"?
#1733 [16:01] <Wolfproblem> and sometime while playing an old world
#1734 [16:02] <Wolfproblem> constantly
#1735 [16:02] <Johnbird> when i log in to minecraft it says updating minecraft but its already bassicly done but it says done updating and just sits there help please
#1736 [16:02] <xales> Johnbird: Are you trying to play the demo?
#1737 [16:03] <Johnbird> no
#1738 [16:03] <xales> Are you on Windows?
#1739 [16:03] <Johnbird> regular minecraft ive been playing for about a year
#1740 [16:03] <Johnbird> and im an mac osx
#1741 [16:03] <xales> ??> Johnbird mac/reinst
#1742 [16:03] <VoxelHead> Johnbird: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1743 [16:03] <VoxelHead> Johnbird: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1744 [16:04] <Johnbird> my minecraft isnt in application support ive tried to mod before
#1745 [16:05] <Johnbird> ???
#1746 [16:05] <Johnbird> please help
#1747 [16:05] <Johnbird> ???
#1748 [16:06] <xales> What username do you use to log in to Minecraft?
#1749 [16:06] <Johnbird> Johnbird
#1750 [16:06] <Johnbird> i just started this furom
#1751 [16:07] <Johnbird> ???
#1752 [16:07] <xales> Where did you download Minecraft from?
#1753 [16:07] <Johnbird> minecraft.net
#1754 [16:07] <xales> Also, please be patient. It isn't necessary to say "???" if it takes someone more than 10 seconds to answer you.
#1755 [16:07] <Johnbird> ok
#1756 [16:07] <Johnbird> im sorry
#1757 [16:08] <xales> Do you know how to open the Terminal?
#1758 [16:08] <Johnbird> yes ive tried that to
#1759 [16:08] <xales> Please open it.
#1760 [16:08] <Johnbird> ok
#1761 [16:09] <Wolfproblem> did someone know a german minecrafthelp chat or something? It would be easier for me to explain my problem
#1762 [16:09] <Johnbird> i opened terminal
#1763 [16:09] <xales> Johnbird: Yes, I see that.
#1764 [16:09] <Johnbird> what to do
#1765 [16:09] <xales> Please be patient, sometimes what I am telling you may take more than 20 seconds to type.
#1766 [16:10] <xales> ._.
#1767 [16:10] <Johnbird> lol
#1768 [16:10] <xales> In it, type this: rm -rvf "~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin"
#1769 [16:11] <xales> Then press enter.
#1770 [16:11] <Johnbird> its no such file or directory
#1771 [16:12] <xales> Run Minecraft. Before you log in, click Options and click "Force Update"
#1772 [16:12] <xales> Then close the options and log in.
#1773 [16:12] <Johnbird> ok
#1774 [16:12] <Johnbird> thank you very much you fixed it!
#1775 [16:12] <Johnbird> ty
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#1777 [16:13] <Wolfproblem> so did someone know a german minecraft help page/ chat? Or can someone help me the the wolfspawnthing?
#1778 [16:14] <Wolfproblem> +with
#1779 [16:14] <xales> Wolfproblem: There isn't one.
#1780 [16:14] <xales> Try this:
#1781 [16:14] <xales> ??> Wolfproblem win/reinst
#1782 [16:14] <VoxelHead> Wolfproblem: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1783 [16:14] <VoxelHead> Wolfproblem: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1785 [16:15] <Wolfproblem> ok thank you all i will try have a nice evening
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#1791 [16:27] <SheaStyle> anyone know if I can get my logitech controller to work with minecraft?
#1792 [16:27] <xales> Try Googling it, there may be a topic on the forum or something.
#1793 [16:28] <xales> Minecraft doesn't support controllers natively, as far as I know, but you may be able to bind it to keys or something.
#1794 [16:28] <SheaStyle> k. thanks
#1795 [16:29] <DiskDaemon> Apparently there's a minecontrol mod that can help http://javadocs.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/minecontrol-play-minecraft-with-an-xbox-360-usb-controller/
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#1798 [16:41] <qwertytrains> Sheastyle: here you go http://goo.gl/j2IXq
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#1804 [16:53] <bloxdude2341> i really need help :(
#1805 [16:53] <Talk> ok lunix box, ive done http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL#What_to_replace and http://debianhelp.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts/ but it dissipeared from my games bar help?
#1806 [16:53] <Talk> * bar-help?
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#1808 [16:54] <bloxdude2341> i need help making a minecraft multiplayer server
#1809 [16:54] <xales> bloxdude2341: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1810 [16:54] <xales> Talk: Do you have the correct graphics driver installed?
#1811 [16:55] <bloxdude2341> what?
#1812 [16:55] <Talk> dunno, i suppose so, but i think i need to get it back on my games bar before fixing that
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#1814 [16:58] <xales> bloxdude2341: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1815 [16:58] <xales> Click the link.
#1816 [16:58] <xales> Talk: "Games bar"?
#1817 [16:58] <Talk> lunix
#1818 [16:58] <Talk> apps-games
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#1820 [17:00] <Talk> Linux brad-desktop 2.6.38-15-generic #63~lucid1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 6 14:56:25 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
#1821 [17:00] <xales> Talk: Download this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar and run it.
#1822 [17:00] <Talk> that's what im running
#1823 [17:00] <xales> Either using the java binary, or whatever your DE will do when you double-click it.
#1824 [17:01] <Talk> yeah, i already hjave those
#1825 [17:01] <Talk> they don't do a thing
#1826 [17:01] <xales> Run it from a terminal
#1827 [17:01] <xales> It will probably give you an error
#1828 [17:01] <Talk> how?
#1829 [17:02] <xales> Do you know how to open a terminal?
#1830 [17:02] <Talk> yes! not that stupid
#1831 [17:02] <xales> Okay, so open one.
#1832 [17:02] <Talk> open
#1833 [17:02] <xales> Run: java -jar path/to/minecraft.jar
#1834 [17:02] <Talk> ive had one open trying to figure this out
#1835 [17:02] <Boreeas> java -jar ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar
#1836 [17:02] <xales> Boreeas: Do you know anything about Poobuntu?
#1837 [17:02] <Talk> Unable to access jarfile path/to/minecraft.jar
#1838 [17:03] <xales> ._.
#1839 [17:03] <Boreeas> Talk: Aww, c'mon
#1840 [17:03] <xales> Talk: Do what Boreeas said.
#1841 [17:03] <Boreeas> Talk: You are supposed to replace it with the actual path
#1842 [17:03] <Boreeas> xales: Yep, using it right now
#1843 [17:03] <bloxdude2341> aaaahhhhh
#1844 [17:03] * xales tags Boreeas in
#1844 [17:03] <Boreeas> Help!
#1845 [17:03] <bloxdude2341> im reading dis thang and im like... idk!
#1846 [17:04] <Talk> Unable to access jarfile /home/tyler/Downloads/minecraft.jar
#1847 [17:04] <xales> bloxdude2341: Read the warning, at the top.
#1848 [17:04] <xales> Talk: Did you download minecraft.jar?
#1849 [17:04] <Talk> yeah
#1850 [17:04] <Boreeas> Talk: 'locate minecraft.jar'
#1851 [17:05] <bloxdude2341> i can not read dat thing
#1852 [17:05] <Talk> i have those files in my home
#1853 [17:05] <Boreeas> Good, run 'java -jar ~/minecraft.jar' then
#1854 [17:05] <Talk> but their useless
#1855 [17:05] <bloxdude2341> could u guys walk me through step by step
#1856 [17:05] <bloxdude2341> i need it to play with friends
#1857 [17:05] <Talk> Unable to access jarfile /home/tyler/minecraft.jar
#1858 [17:06] <bloxdude2341> they will get mad ay me D:
#1859 [17:06] <Boreeas> Talk: Okay, you have no idea where you downloaded the launcher to?
#1860 [17:06] <xales> bloxdude2341: Find a server to play on with them, or get one of them to run a server.
#1861 [17:06] <bloxdude2341> ... what?
#1862 [17:06] <Talk> at the sight, right?
#1863 [17:06] <xales> It's a complicated process, and if you don't understand it, you should not run a server.
#1864 [17:07] <Boreeas> Talk: Did you download https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar?
#1865 [17:07] <bloxdude2341> ill let my friends try tommarow or really REALLY try to setup
#1866 [17:07] <Talk> yea
#1867 [17:07] <Boreeas> Talk: Where did you save it?
#1868 [17:07] <Talk> all of that stuff is in my home
#1869 [17:08] <Boreeas> Apparently not
#1870 [17:08] <Boreeas> Let's try something else
#1871 [17:08] <Talk> LZMA , METAINF , and net are all there
#1872 [17:09] <Boreeas> Oh god you extracted it?
#1873 [17:09] <Talk> ja
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#1875 [17:09] <Boreeas> No wonder it didn't work
#1876 [17:09] <Talk> i wasn't supposed to?
#1877 [17:09] <Boreeas> Talk: 'cd;wget https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar'
#1878 [17:10] <Boreeas> No, you were not
#1879 [17:10] <Talk> with the ;?
#1880 [17:10] <Boreeas> Yes
#1881 [17:10] <TheGoodNoodle> lol.
#1882 [17:11] <Talk> Resolving s3.amazonaws.com... 72.21.211.130 Connecting to s3.amazonaws.com|72.21.211.130|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 81938 (80K) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: `minecraft.jar' 100%[======================================>] 81,938 --.-K/s in 0.1s 2012-08-28 17:10:54 (737 KB/s) - `minecraft.jar' saved [81938/81938]
#1883 [17:11] <bloxdude2341> has anyone EVER setup a server? just asking o.o
#1884 [17:11] <Boreeas> Don't paste all of that
#1885 [17:11] <Boreeas> But it worked, which is good
#1886 [17:11] <Talk> so, what now?
#1887 [17:11] <Boreeas> java -jar minecraft.jar
#1888 [17:11] <lutzee> bloxdude2341: yes... but I am technically competent
#1889 [17:12] <TheGoodNoodle> ouch :D
#1890 [17:12] <Boreeas> I set up a server on a remote machine without firewall
#1891 [17:12] <bloxdude2341> im confused D:
#1892 [17:13] <Talk> Boreeas: thx
#1893 [17:13] <xales> bloxdude2341: As I've said, setting up a server is fairly complicated technical process, and if you don't understand it, then you shouldn't do it.
#1894 [17:13] <Boreeas> Talk: Want it a little bit more convenient for the future?
#1895 [17:14] <Talk> fk! black screed
#1896 [17:14] <Boreeas> Any error in the console?
#1897 [17:14] <Boreeas> If so, paste to http://pastebin.com
#1898 [17:15] <bloxdude2341> ok xales i wont... ill ask my dad later what some stuff means and figuer it out later. hopefully...
#1899 [17:15] <bloxdude2341> bye
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#1901 [17:16] <Talk> ok, i gtg
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#1912 [17:33] <chase_> how come everytime i try to load up minecraft, the screen that you play on turns black or white then freezes after it loads up??
#1913 [17:34] <lutzee> playing with mods?
#1914 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> Perform a reinstall to help resolve many issues
#1915 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/reinst
#1916 [17:35] <chase_> no but my steo brother tried to download some single player commands
#1917 [17:35] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1918 [17:35] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1919 [17:36] <chase_> wait how do i reinstall? and after i do that would i have to buy minecraft again?
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#1921 [17:36] <DiskDaemon> Follow the instructions from VoxelHead to reinstall - you don't need to pay again
#1922 [17:37] <mib_0z94wa> can someone help me with the launcher in Linux? I log in and just get a black screen.
#1923 [17:37] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
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#1925 [17:40] <mib_0z94wa> PM'd the output
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#1927 [17:41] <DiskDaemon> ??> mib_0z94wa pastebin
#1928 [17:41] <VoxelHead> mib_0z94wa: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1929 [17:42] <mib_0z94wa> http://pastebin.com/EgpPQU4A
#1930 [17:42] <mib_0z94wa> i put the asterisks in for the username, btw
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#1932 [17:43] <DiskDaemon> mib_0z94wa: Is that WoM you're running?
#1933 [17:44] <mib_0z94wa> I don't know what that is. I'm a bit of a *nix noob.
#1934 [17:44] <DiskDaemon> mib_0z94wa: I don't know much about troubleshooting linux, I'm afraid, but i seems that you'll need to update your lwjgl drivers
#1935 [17:45] <mib_0z94wa> okay, i'll give that a try
#1936 [17:45] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/53709-solved-black-screen-after-login-ubuntu-1010/
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#1938 [17:47] <chase_> how do i make the minecraft play screen to be full size?
#1939 [17:48] <mib_0z94wa> F11
#1940 [17:48] <DiskDaemon> F11 is the key
#1941 [17:48] <chase_> thanksd
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#1945 [17:52] <DiskDaemon> You can also now enable fullscreen at startup by editing the options.txt file
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#1947 [18:01] <mib_0z94wa> DiskDaemon: that link worked. thank you
#1948 [18:02] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#1951 [18:04] <chase_> why is my minecraft so laggy and slow? i have a fast computer and stuff...
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#1953 [18:05] <DiskDaemon> Are you on a laptop with switchable graphics?
#1954 [18:05] <chase_> no, im on a desk top
#1955 [18:05] <DiskDaemon> Let's find out what you're dealing with then
#1956 [18:06] <chase_> k
#1957 [18:06] <DiskDaemon> ??> chase_ win/dxdiag
#1958 [18:06] <VoxelHead> chase_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1959 [18:06] <VoxelHead> chase_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1962 [18:10] <SheaStyle> anyone know anything about seeting up a Logitech rumblepad 2 for use in minecraft?
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#1973 [18:18] <SheaStyle> anyone know anything about seeting up a Logitech rumblepad 2 for use in minecraft?
#1974 [18:18] <mrsapple3423> jgxx
#1975 [18:18] <mrsapple3423> z
#1976 [18:18] <mrsapple3423> zz
#1977 [18:18] <mrsapple3423> z
#1978 [18:18] <mrsapple3423> z
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#1980 [18:19] <SheaStyle> *setting
#1981 [18:19] <DiskDaemon> SheaStyle: What further assistance do you need from that which was given before?
#1982 [18:19] <mrsapple3423> commands
#1983 [18:20] <mrsapple3423> hi
#1984 [18:20] <DiskDaemon> SheaStyle: Are you capable of responding?
#1985 [18:21] <SheaStyle> just thought someone else might know something more. Checked it out online and it people were using it. downloaded latest thing from logitech installed
#1986 [18:21] <DiskDaemon> Try this - http://www-en.jtksoft.net/
#1987 [18:21] <SheaStyle> but when I assign keystrokes it doesn't work
#1988 [18:22] <mrsapple3423> just help me with commands
#1989 [18:22] <mrsapple3423> for minecraft
#1990 [18:22] <DiskDaemon> Then it seems that it may not be possible.
#1991 [18:22] <mrsapple3423> fuck you
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#1993 [18:22] <DiskDaemon> I was about to say that they're in the Options menu
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#1995 [18:36] <blink> !login
#1996 [18:36] <blink> liar
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#2010 [19:00] <chase_> how come my minecraft play is sooooo slow and laggy?
#2011 [19:01] <DiskDaemon> Let's find out what your situation is
#2012 [19:01] <DiskDaemon> ??> chase_ win/dxdiag
#2013 [19:01] <VoxelHead> chase_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2014 [19:01] <VoxelHead> chase_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2018 [19:08] <chase_> what is the IRC channel?
#2019 [19:08] <lutzee> ?? irc/channel
#2020 [19:08] <VoxelHead> irc/channel: You're in one.
#2021 [19:08] <chase_> http://pastebin.com/nRd37ypU
#2022 [19:09] <stupidmom> this stupid mom can't open mc on her macbook; downloaded it via zip, icons don't result in opening game... apple no help...
#2023 [19:09] <lutzee> okay, lets start by updating your graphics drivers
#2024 [19:10] <lutzee> ??> chase_ gpu/intel
#2025 [19:10] <VoxelHead> chase_: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2026 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> That's an interesting looking computer - http://www.mycomputersworld.com/HP-Compaq-8100-Elite-CMT-BM836AW-i3-530-2GB-250GB-DVD-Acirc-plusmn-LS-Intel-H-0.jpg
#2027 [19:10] <Eddie> Pretty ugly to me
#2028 [19:10] <lutzee> stupidmom: did you extract the zip? also do you know what version the operating system is?
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#2030 [19:12] <stupidmom> I doubleclicked the zip and it looked like it unpacked... I can see it it just doesnt do anything when th icon is clicked...
#2031 [19:13] <lutzee> hmm, Do you know if you have java installed at all?
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#2033 [19:13] <stupidmom> yes the appleman said that was all set
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#2035 [19:13] <lutzee> okay, lets find out what version
#2036 [19:13] <lutzee> ??> stupidmom java/version
#2037 [19:13] <VoxelHead> stupidmom: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2038 [19:14] <VoxelHead> stupidmom: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2039 [19:14] <lutzee> Tell me what that page says
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#2041 [19:21] <GTALionKing> Hello
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#2043 [19:23] <GTALionKing> Is anyone else having problems with Minecraft Classic?
#2044 [19:23] <PhoneBook> No
#2045 [19:23] <stupidmom> Lutzee I found it! SE 6 32 and 64 bit 1.6.0_33-b03-42 but I see the enable applet plug-in & web start apps isn't checked?
#2046 [19:23] <PhoneBook> Ask me about classic
#2047 [19:23] <lutzee> stupidmom: that seems fine, can you find out what version operating system you are running?
#2048 [19:24] <GTALionKing> It keeps giving me an applet error
#2049 [19:24] <GTALionKing> Windows 7
#2050 [19:24] <PhoneBook> What version of java do you have?
#2051 [19:24] <GTALionKing> 6
#2052 [19:24] <lutzee> GTALionKing: we can't support classic here, also classic does not run with java7
#2053 [19:25] <stupidmom> Lutzee: 10.6.8 osx
#2054 [19:25] <PhoneBook> Hmmm
#2055 [19:25] <lutzee> hmmm too
#2056 [19:25] <PhoneBook> Can you paste us the error message
#2057 [19:25] <GTALionKing> Thats why I went and installed java 6 but its still giving me errors...
#2058 [19:25] <GTALionKing> ok hold on...
#2059 [19:26] <lutzee> Not running lion so theres no problems to do with gatekeeper..
#2060 [19:26] <lutzee> okay
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#2062 [19:26] <crazilon> Welp.
#2063 [19:26] <crazilon> The usual.
#2064 [19:27] <crazilon> Login server
#2065 [19:27] <stupidmom> thanks for trying lutzee
#2066 [19:27] <lutzee> stupidmom: download this file and run it https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#2067 [19:27] <GTALionKing> "An error occured while loading the applet. Please contact support to resolve this issue. Fatal error occured (5
#2068 [19:27] <crazilon> I wish I unmigrate account
#2069 [19:28] <lutzee> crazilon: not possible
#2070 [19:28] <lutzee> crazilon: not possible
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#2072 [19:28] <crazilon> grumble grumble
#2073 [19:28] <crazilon> login server down again
#2074 [19:28] <GTALionKing> ): A device attatched to the system is not functioning
#2075 [19:28] <lutzee> crazilon: ignore that
#2076 [19:28] <crazilon> And do
#2077 [19:28] <GTALionKing> -_- it posted in to parts lol sorry
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#2079 [19:29] <crazilon> hola oerg866
#2080 [19:29] <lutzee> GTALionKing: wait what OS?
#2081 [19:29] <GTALionKing> Windows 7
#2082 [19:29] <lutzee> hmm
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#2084 [19:30] <GTALionKing> I have also tried deleteing the minecraft.net folder and that never worked
#2085 [19:31] <lutzee> Well theres not really much we can do, it's legacy software
#2086 [19:31] <GTALionKing> oh well, thanks anyway
#2087 [19:31] <GTALionKing> Bye
#2088 [19:36] <crazilon> sooo
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#2092 [19:49] <Guest84167> I am trying to download minecraft and it keeps telling that the download is broken and sends it to the trash in OS X. Can anyone help?
#2093 [19:50] <lutzee> ??> Guest84167 mac/gatekeeper
#2094 [19:50] <VoxelHead> Guest84167: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#2095 [19:52] <Guest84167> Looks like I may be in business. Thanks. Will confirm
#2096 [19:52] <Guest84167> Yeah. Thats it. Thanks
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#2102 [20:06] <handsome> hi
#2103 [20:06] <PhoneMASH> Hi
#2104 [20:06] <handsome> i cant change my skin
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#2106 [20:07] <handsome> i ahve tried a million times it says my skin ahd been updated but when i get in the game i found out that it didnt change anything at all
#2107 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> There have been some issues with the skins server - it can take some time
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#2117 [20:15] <apetrick> can anyone help right now?
#2118 [20:15] <apetrick> having connection issues with magic launcher
#2119 [20:15] <apetrick> and all other mod programs
#2120 [20:15] <handsome> anyone help me with myskin problem right now?
#2121 [20:16] <DiskDaemon> Connect using the original minecraft.exe file - and you may get better results
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#2123 [20:16] <apetrick> magic launcher doesnt add the mods to the jar so i cant
#2124 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#2125 [20:17] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2126 [20:17] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2127 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> apetrick: Having said that, I use magic launcher too. Go in to setup and tell it to show a log, and paste that log to pastebin.com
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#2143 [20:48] <charelsxvi> Evening, I just bought the game and it won't run. It say's "Minecraft has crashed", I'm not good with programing or understanding much of this. I have the error report if anybody can understand it
#2144 [20:49] <Denizen> Go ahead.
#2145 [20:49] <Denizen> Use a pastebin.
#2146 [20:51] <charelsxvi> I am sorry a what? I am new to all of this please forgive my inexperience
#2147 [20:52] <Denizen> Go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste the contents of the error report into the box.
#2148 [20:52] <Denizen> Then click Submit.
#2149 [20:52] <Denizen> Then give us the url.
#2150 [20:53] <charelsxvi> thanks
#2151 [20:53] <charelsxvi> http://pastebin.com/nkDzyjjD
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#2154 [20:59] <lutzee> charelsxvi: looks like you have bad graphics drivers
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#2157 [21:00] <lutzee> charelsxvi: do you know what graphics card/chpiset you are using?
#2158 [21:01] <charelsxvi> nvidia gtx550ti
#2159 [21:02] <charelsxvi> and motherboard chipset?
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#2163 [21:04] <BeachBoii> hi
#2164 [21:04] <BeachBoii> my minecraft doesnt let me play
#2165 [21:05] <lutzee> charelsxvi: hmm okay try updating the graphics drivers
#2166 [21:05] <lutzee> ??> charelsxvi gpu/nvidia
#2167 [21:05] <VoxelHead> charelsxvi: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#2168 [21:05] <lutzee> BeachBoii: elaborate
#2169 [21:06] <charelsxvi> okay I'll give it a shot, thanks for the help
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#2171 [21:08] <Jedi_> hello?
#2172 [21:08] <BeachBoii> but when i click on mincraft it says program unavaliable java virtual machine needed?
#2173 [21:08] <Jedi_> For Some Reason when ever i try to join a game, it take me at least 14 seconds to actually log in
#2174 [21:08] <lutzee> BeachBoii: you need to install java
#2175 [21:08] <Jedi_> wat do i do
#2176 [21:09] <BeachBoii> i did and it still says that?
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#2178 [21:09] <lutzee> Jedi_: find a server that is closer to you, you are probably connecting to a server across the other side of the world to you
#2179 [21:09] <lutzee> BeachBoii: er restarted your PC since?
#2180 [21:09] <Jedi_> But it is a hunger games server!
#2181 [21:10] <Jedi_> so i need to do it fast to get into lobbys D:
#2182 [21:10] <BeachBoii> yes i have i restarted everything even my internet
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#2184 [21:10] <lutzee> Jedi_: well there isn't much we can do about that is there?
#2185 [21:11] <lutzee> BeachBoii: odd..
#2186 [21:11] <lutzee> oh right windows XP
#2187 [21:11] <lutzee> ??> BeachBoii win/dxdiag/bat
#2188 [21:11] <VoxelHead> BeachBoii: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#2189 [21:11] <Jedi_> Well do you at least know what the problem is and problems there are to fix it? And btw it has only started after updates after 1.2.5
#2190 [21:11] <BeachBoii> can you give me a link to a good java download see if that makes a difference??
#2191 [21:11] <VoxelHead> BeachBoii: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#2192 [21:11] <lutzee> Jedi_: get better internet
#2193 [21:12] <Jedi_> What do you mean better internet? the connection?
#2194 [21:12] <lutzee> BeachBoii: oracle java is the best and official.. i am assuming you have that
#2195 [21:12] <lutzee> Jedi_: exactly that, faster internet
#2196 [21:12] <Jedi_> ok
#2197 [21:12] <Jedi_> wait but do you know why it has only started after updates 1.2.5?
#2198 [21:13] <BeachBoii> okk
#2199 [21:14] <lutzee> Jedi_: there isn't much we can do if it takes you a long time to log into a server
#2200 [21:14] <Jedi_> i know that but why has it only started after 1.2.5!!
#2201 [21:15] <lutzee> I have no idea....
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#2203 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> Different authentication and handshake, remember?
#2204 [21:16] <Wug> Jedi_: its might be a thing the server is doing
#2205 [21:16] <Wug> and yeah, the login protocol changed since then.
#2206 [21:16] <Jedi_> well its with everything
#2207 [21:16] <Jedi_> it does it with all servers
#2208 [21:16] <Wug> the login protocol of every server changed.
#2209 [21:16] <Jedi_> how so?
#2210 [21:16] <Wug> though it doesnt take that long for me to login
#2211 [21:16] <NinjaKirby> At least you can log in, since 1.3.x I have to try about 30 times XD
#2212 [21:16] <Wug> it does new things in a new order.
#2213 [21:17] <scola> Hey guys. Sorry for such a mundane question, but I can't connect to minecraft.net through my osx client. I can connect to minecraft.net on the web fine, I tried account migration, reloading the client through the site, etc. etc. Can you recommend a troubleshooting protocol for me?
#2214 [21:17] <Jedi_> well that sux that on my main comp its gunna take me forever to find a hunger games server to join ' _'
#2215 [21:19] <BeachBoii> what is the java virtual machine??
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#2217 [21:22] <lutzee> BeachBoii: it's what minecraft runs in
#2218 [21:22] <BeachBoii> can you give me a link to download it?
#2219 [21:23] <Wug> GreyVulpine: don't you have to be at work in 4 hours
#2220 [21:23] <lutzee> BeachBoii: when you installed java you installed it
#2221 [21:24] <BeachBoii> how come its say sit need java virtual machine 1.5.0
#2222 [21:24] <lutzee> -.-
#2223 [21:24] <lutzee> ??> BeachBoii java/version
#2224 [21:24] <VoxelHead> BeachBoii: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2225 [21:24] <VoxelHead> BeachBoii: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2226 [21:24] <lutzee> lets find out weather you actually have it installed
#2227 [21:25] <Wug> lutzee: its useful to note that that page is sometimes not accurate
#2228 [21:25] <Wug> it will display the version that the browser is using
#2229 [21:25] <Wug> which may not match the default systemwide install
#2230 [21:25] <lutzee> hmm okay
#2231 [21:25] <Wug> (the browser may end up stuck on a 32 bit version whereas the system install might be a 64 bit one)
#2232 [21:25] <Wug> ^ this is the primary issue
#2233 [21:27] <lutzee> There should be a terminal version for java -version
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#2237 [21:28] <ugly> hi
#2238 [21:29] <ugly> how can i create a server and paly with my friends?
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#2240 [21:30] <lutzee> ugly: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2241 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> ugly: That can be a difficult process and can be a security risk too - instructions are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2242 [21:30] <lutzee> And we ninja'd each other... was writing the other bit out at the time >.>
#2243 [21:30] <sweep> my son deleted the files within the .jar account while trying to follow a youtuge mod. Is there a way to get this back as the game now no longer works?
#2244 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> ninja'd :)
#2245 [21:31] <lutzee> ??> sweep forceupadate
#2246 [21:31] <lutzee> ??> sweep forceupdate
#2247 [21:31] <VoxelHead> sweep: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
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#2249 [21:31] <VoxelHead> sweep: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2250 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> ??> sweep win/reinst
#2251 [21:31] <VoxelHead> sweep: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2252 [21:31] <VoxelHead> sweep: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2253 [21:31] <ugly> isn't the new version of minecraft can create a server without downloading nothing?
#2254 [21:31] <lutzee> ugly: oh right
#2255 [21:31] <lutzee> Log into your world on singleplayer
#2256 [21:32] <lutzee> then pause the game and press open to lan
#2257 [21:32] <ugly> and press esc and press open clan balh balh ablh
#2258 [21:32] <lutzee> Note you have to be in the same network for this to work
#2259 [21:32] <ugly> Same network?
#2260 [21:32] <DiskDaemon> ugly: That can be useful if you and your friend are on the same local network - is that the case?
#2261 [21:32] <ugly> that means i need hamachi?
#2262 [21:32] <lutzee> We can't support and don't like hamachi really
#2263 [21:33] <ugly> o
#2264 [21:33] <DiskDaemon> The same local network, yes. LAN = Local Area Network - you and your friend would both need to be behind the same router
#2265 [21:33] <ugly> but my other firend teach me to do so
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#2267 [21:33] <ugly> how can i have the same network with my firiends?
#2268 [21:33] <lutzee> ugly: hamachi isn't nice, you are bouncing all your connections through another server
#2269 [21:33] <lutzee> ugly: invite them round your house
#2270 [21:34] <ugly> i am not using ahmachi anyway
#2271 [21:34] <ugly> ..........
#2272 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> How can you be on the same network? That's similar to asking how can you be in the same house as your friends.
#2273 [21:34] <ugly> how can i play with my firends if i dont invite them around my house
#2274 [21:34] <ugly> ??
#2275 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> The easiest way is to use a server that you and your friends like
#2276 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> ?? smp.server
#2277 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> ?? smp/server
#2278 [21:35] <ugly> how?
#2279 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> ?? smp/servers
#2280 [21:35] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2281 [21:35] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
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#2283 [21:36] <ugly> can i jsut use minecraft to create server withotu install or downlaoding anything?
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#2285 [21:37] <xales> ugly: No. If you want to play with your friends, find a server to play on with them.
#2286 [21:37] <DiskDaemon> ugly: Instructions are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2287 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> ahh, without install or downloading stuff - no, it's not that easy.
#2288 [21:38] <ugly> o
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#2291 [21:39] <ugly> i have already downlaod but when it is wat java and then the whole java thing is black
#2292 [21:40] <DiskDaemon> We might be able to help if we have a crash report http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
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#2299 [21:41] <ugly> ah i have successedx the java thingy
#2300 [21:42] <ugly> and the java is a white thing how can i sue this?
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#2302 [21:42] <nocashash> my game has slowed down considerably the last couple of days, any troubleshooting suggestions?
#2303 [21:42] <ugly> how can i sue the java thing?
#2304 [21:43] <DiskDaemon> WHat has changed since before the problem?
#2305 [21:43] <ugly> hwo can i sue the java thing to create a server?
#2306 [21:43] <DiskDaemon> ugly: I don't think that sueing them is a viable strategy
#2307 [21:43] <ugly> use
#2308 [21:43] <ugly> sorry
#2309 [21:44] <ugly> how can i sue the java?
#2310 [21:44] <xales> DiskDaemon: I disagree.
#2311 [21:44] <xales> Let's sue Java.
#2312 [21:44] <xales> :D
#2313 [21:44] <ugly> how can i use the java?
#2314 [21:44] <DiskDaemon> A server is not created in that way.
#2315 [21:44] <ugly> ................
#2316 [21:44] <nocashash> nothing has changed, it starts working fine and then it slows down
#2317 [21:45] <xales> nocashash: Any other programs open when you have the game running?
#2318 [21:45] <xales> Particularly browsers, media players, etc.
#2319 [21:45] <nocashash> no
#2320 [21:45] <xales> Using any mods or texture packs?
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#2322 [21:46] <nocashash> no
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#2324 [21:47] <nocashash> everything is original
#2325 [21:47] <xales> Hmm.
#2326 [21:47] <xales> Are you on Windows?
#2327 [21:47] <nocashash> no, on a mac lap top
#2328 [21:48] <xales> ??> nocashash forceupdate
#2329 [21:48] <VoxelHead> nocashash: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2330 [21:48] <VoxelHead> nocashash: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2331 [21:48] <nocashash> ok, i'll give it a try. thanks for your help!
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#2335 [21:55] <Jrn0499> I cant login to my minecraft.net account?
#2336 [21:56] <xales> I would assume that's because you're entering the username or password incorrectly.
#2337 [21:56] <xales> Did you try resetting your password?
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#2339 [21:56] <Jrn0499> my password is rightg but it says its wrong
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#2341 [21:56] <xales> Then, obviously, it's not right.
#2342 [21:56] <Jrn0499> it is
#2343 [21:56] <xales> If it says it's wrong, then it's wrong.
#2344 [21:56] <Jrn0499> I have been using it for years
#2345 [21:56] <xales> Well, someone must have changed it then.
#2346 [21:56] <Jrn0499> How can i change it?
#2347 [21:57] <xales> http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#2348 [21:57] <Jrn0499> that doesnt work
#2349 [21:57] <Jrn0499> i dont get the email
#2350 [21:57] <xales> Did you check your spam folder? Are you checking the right email account?
#2351 [21:57] <Jrn0499> right email
#2352 [21:57] <Jrn0499> i dont use a spam folder
#2353 [21:58] <Jrn0499> I havent gotten the email yet
#2354 [21:58] <xales> Unless you're running your own mailserver, I don't think you'd be able to find a provider that doesn't have spam filtering.
#2355 [21:58] <xales> Just because you don't /use/ a spam folder, doesn't mean it's not /there/.
#2356 [21:58] <Jrn0499> whatever, i have never goten anything in it
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#2358 [21:59] <xales> Well, did you look to see if this email has ended up there?
#2359 [21:59] <Jrn0499> I just want to redoawnload mincreaft on this laptop
#2360 [21:59] <Jrn0499> but it wont work
#2361 [21:59] <Wug> are you sure the username is right
#2362 [21:59] <Jrn0499> when i get the starter up
#2363 [21:59] <Jrn0499> i login
#2364 [21:59] <Jrn0499> and it says i havent downlaoded ti yet
#2365 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> What else does it say?
#2366 [22:00] <Wug> whats your account name
#2367 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you a "Can't connect to Minecraft.net" error? A "Login Failed" error?
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#2370 [22:02] <Jrn0499_> Back
#2371 [22:02] <Wug> whats your account name?
#2372 [22:02] <Wug> Does it give you a "Can't connect to Minecraft.net" error? A "Login Failed" error?
#2373 [22:02] <Jrn0499_> It says my minecraft isnt downloaded
#2374 [22:03] <Wug> that's not the only thing it says
#2375 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Which one of these do you see?
#2376 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/V1pYh.png
#2377 [22:03] * macer1 is now known as :macer1|away
#2378 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> You can also note, they all say, "Not downloaded"
#2379 [22:03] <Jrn0499_> I login to the starter then it says its not downloaded
#2380 [22:03] <Wug> Jrn0499_: you'
#2381 [22:04] <Wug> you're going to have to do better than that.
#2382 [22:05] <Jrn0499_> I go to minecraft.net click download, click download for wimdows. I follow the steps.the starter pops up. Then i login and it says not downloaded
#2383 [22:05] <Wug> click on the picture GreyVulpine linked
#2384 [22:05] <Wug> are you looking at it yet?
#2385 [22:05] <Jrn0499_> Im on a 3DS it might not work
#2386 [22:06] <Wug> get on your computer.
#2387 [22:07] <Jrn0499_> Ill take a look but understand that once i do i leave the chat, O cant.... i had to log off
#2388 [22:07] <Jrn0499_> Ill be back with my answer fro the link
#2389 [22:07] <Wug> k
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#2393 [22:10] <legitkiller354> hi
#2394 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Hello
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#2396 [22:12] <legitkiller354> i have installed mods over the course of my minecraft and i de installed them but i want a fresh new minecraft because i cant find all the origional files
#2397 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#2398 [22:12] <legitkiller354> Macantosh
#2399 [22:12] <Wug> ?? forceupdate
#2400 [22:12] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2401 [22:13] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2402 [22:13] * Wug tells GreyVulpine that you can tell what OS and browser webchat users are using with /ctcp version
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#2403 [22:13] <Jacob> Back Wub
#2404 [22:13] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2404 [22:13] <legitkiller354> i allready did that but i re-named the .jar and i cant get it back
#2405 [22:14] <legitkiller354> the the origional file
#2406 [22:14] <Jacob> I see the top one ( im Jrn0499)
#2407 [22:14] <legitkiller354> what do u mean
#2408 [22:14] <lutzee> Jacob: you have an incorrect user/password
#2409 [22:14] <Jacob> Wug?
#2410 [22:15] <Wug> Jacob: and you can login on your other computer?
#2411 [22:15] <legitkiller354> i already force updated my minecrat
#2412 [22:15] <legitkiller354> me?
#2413 [22:15] <Wug> legitkiller354: we're saying other peoples names
#2414 [22:15] <legitkiller354> ok...
#2415 [22:15] <Jacob> I cant get on a comp now... ( im jrn0499) I see the first picture
#2416 [22:16] <Wug> <Jrn0499> I just want to redoawnload mincreaft on this laptop
#2417 [22:16] <Jacob> Yes, mineraft is on my other comp and i can login fine on that
#2418 [22:16] <Wug> then your password is wrong
#2419 [22:16] <Wug> go check what it is on the other computer
#2420 [22:16] <Wug> make sure theyre the same length
#2421 [22:17] <Wug> or do you get the same login failed notice on both computers?
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#2423 [22:17] <legitkiller354> i tried to delete all mincreaft files but when i re downloaded it i only go the shotcut
#2424 [22:17] <DarkSasori> oi
#2425 [22:17] <DarkSasori> Hi, I have a problem with my minecraft.jar
#2426 [22:17] <DarkSasori> ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet
#2427 [22:17] <Jacob> Im using the same Pass! It shows me the first pic, Login Failed, Not Downloaded
#2428 [22:17] <Wug> DarkSasori: redownload it?
#2429 [22:17] <legitkiller354> yes
#2430 [22:17] <Wug> Jacob: other computer does?
#2431 [22:17] <Wug> legitkiller354: please read who we're speaking to
#2432 [22:18] <Wug> its not always you
#2433 [22:18] <Wug> GreyVulpine: whats that mac thing
#2434 [22:18] <Wug> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#2435 [22:18] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#2436 [22:18] <Wug> legitkiller354: try this
#2437 [22:19] <DarkSasori> @Wug: yes...but same error
#2438 [22:19] <Wug> DarkSasori: this is when you run the launcher?
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#2440 [22:20] <Wug> the downloadable launcher doesnt even try to run the applet, it starts with a different class
#2441 [22:20] <DarkSasori> @Wug: not, this is when i click in 'Try Demo'
#2442 [22:20] <legitkiller354> wug:deleted every mincraft file, and when i redownloded it i could not get back into the origional minecraft folder, it wasnt there
#2443 [22:20] <Wug> DarkSasori: ooooooh
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#2445 [22:20] <Wug> do it online first
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#2447 [22:20] <Jacob_> What do i do
#2448 [22:21] <Wug> the page is http://minecraft.net/demo or something
#2449 [22:21] <legitkiller354> wug i just want a new clean minecraft with all the original
#2450 [22:21] <Wug> try google if that doesnt work
#2451 [22:21] <Wug> legitkiller354: I KNOW
#2452 [22:21] <Wug> but I know nothing about macs
#2453 [22:21] <hdcool09__> wu
#2454 [22:21] <legitkiller354> wug i just want a new clean minecraft with all the original files
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#2456 [22:21] <Jacob_> I cant login in to minecraft.net
#2457 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Where in your computer did you delete the minecraft files?
#2458 [22:21] <Wug> Jacob_: retype the password then
#2459 [22:21] <Wug> you had caps lock on or something
#2460 [22:22] <legitkiller354> in downloads and everywhere else
#2461 [22:22] <Jacob_> Nope Doesnt work
#2462 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Where is "everywhere else"
#2463 [22:22] <DarkSasori> @Wug: do you have a idea?
#2464 [22:22] <legitkiller354> every file named minecraft.. on the computer
#2465 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Please do this for me. Press your command and G keys at the same time. This will bring up the "Go to Folder" command. In it, type:
#2466 [22:22] <Wug> DarkSasori: yeah, I told you
#2467 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#2468 [22:23] <Wug> try the online one
#2469 [22:23] <Wug> the page is http://minecraft.net/demo or something
#2470 [22:23] <legitkiller354> ok give me a minite
#2471 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Delete everything inside except for saves, then run minecraft again legitkiller354
#2472 [22:23] <Jacob_> minecraft hates me
#2473 [22:23] <lutzee> Wug the try the demo link on minecraft.net just goes there, which is what he said he did
#2474 [22:23] <Wug> derp
#2475 [22:24] <Jacob_> Doesnt work
#2476 [22:24] <legitkiller354> i typed it in but nothing came up
#2477 [22:25] <Jacob_> My minecraft isnt downloaded it seems.
#2478 [22:25] <legitkiller354> ok give me a minite\
#2479 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Make sure you're typing in exactly: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#2480 [22:26] <legitkiller354> i did
#2481 [22:26] <legitkiller354> the go thing wont come up again
#2482 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Nothing shows up?
#2483 [22:26] <Wug> Jacob_: download and use this https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#2484 [22:26] <legitkiller354> is it command G
#2485 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2486 [22:27] <Wug> it's off of my dropbox. you will be able to play the demo with it
#2487 [22:27] <legitkiller354> nothing happend
#2488 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> You don't get a Go To Folder prompt?
#2489 [22:28] <legitkiller354> well..
#2490 [22:28] <Wug> .... wait
#2491 [22:28] <legitkiller354> it was there but not anymore
#2492 [22:28] <Wug> oh well perfect. catastrophe averted
#2493 [22:28] <Wug> DarkSasori: download and use this https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#2494 [22:28] <Wug> it's off of my dropbox. you will be able to play the demo with it
#2495 [22:28] <legitkiller354> GREY
#2496 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Yes? Try minecraft again
#2497 [22:29] <legitkiller354> i never deleted anything just now
#2498 [22:29] <legitkiller354> the go thing wont come up
#2499 [22:29] <Wug> try logging out and then back in again
#2500 [22:29] <Wug> from the computer
#2501 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Oh.. Try Command+Shift+G
#2502 [22:29] <Wug> or this ^
#2503 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> Dang complicated mac shortcuts..
#2504 [22:30] <legitkiller354> all it did was highlight what u typed before
#2505 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> For command+shift+g?
#2506 [22:30] <legitkiller354> yep
#2507 [22:30] <Wug> you are using the command key and not the control key right?
#2508 [22:30] <Wug> the cloverleaf thing?
#2509 [22:31] <legitkiller354> yes command
#2510 [22:31] <legitkiller354> yes
#2511 [22:31] <DarkSasori> ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet
#2512 [22:31] <Wug> DarkSasori: even with the one from dropbox?
#2513 [22:31] <DarkSasori> @Wug: yes
#2514 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Do it from your desktop. It should pop up the Go To Folder command
#2515 [22:31] <Wug> yeah that's not right at all
#2516 [22:31] <Wug> reinstall java.
#2517 [22:31] <legitkiller354> uggggh i like PC way more
#2518 [22:32] <legitkiller354> ok let me try
#2519 [22:32] <Wug> legitkiller354: I freaking hate macs
#2520 [22:32] <Wug> I'm glad you agree :D
#2521 [22:32] <legitkiller354> its up now what
#2522 [22:32] <lutzee> I think everyone has a thing against macs at some point :p
#2523 [22:32] <legitkiller354> I AGREE
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#2525 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Now, type in: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#2526 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you start with the tilde '~' symbol
#2527 [22:33] <legitkiller354> i did it has my folders
#2528 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything inside the minecraft folder (except for saves), then run minecraft again
#2529 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> It should redownload everything once you log in again
#2530 [22:33] <legitkiller354> at first u forgot to tell me to do the ~
#2531 [22:33] <marty> hi i need help i have an imac and it wont let me place anyblocks ive tried 3 mouses nothing what do i do ive tried everything it just deletes and wont place HELP ME
#2532 [22:34] <Wug> legitkiller354: no, you forgot to type it
#2533 [22:34] <legitkiller354> so now i delete every thing grey?
#2534 [22:34] <Wug> marty: you have blocks in yout inventory right?
#2535 [22:34] <marty> plzz help
#2536 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> If you want to save your saves, don't delete the 'saves' folder
#2537 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, delete everything
#2538 [22:34] <marty> its creativy mode
#2539 [22:34] <legitkiller354> thats good to know
#2540 [22:34] <marty> creative
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#2542 [22:35] <Wug> marty: single player or multiplayer
#2543 [22:35] <marty> single player
#2544 [22:35] <legitkiller354> almost done
#2545 [22:35] <DarkSasori> @Wug: java version "1.7.0_06"
#2546 [22:35] <Wug> DarkSasori: its borked. uninstall all versions and install the newest
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#2548 [22:35] <legitkiller354> hey can i keep the sever data
#2549 [22:35] <legitkiller354> hey can i keep the sever data
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#2551 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#2552 [22:36] <legitkiller354> now what
#2553 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Now run minecraft and log in
#2554 [22:36] <marty> hlp
#2555 [22:36] <legitkiller354> ok
#2556 [22:36] <marty> help
#2557 [22:36] <legitkiller354> its going
#2558 [22:37] <Wug> marty: you do have blocks in your hotbar right
#2559 [22:37] <legitkiller354> still
#2560 [22:37] <Wug> and they are selected?
#2561 [22:37] <legitkiller354> still
#2562 [22:37] <marty> yes i have everything its selected and i play on my ipod a lot i purchased this and it just wont work i dont know what to do
#2563 [22:38] <legitkiller354> will this now give me the origional mincreaft
#2564 [22:38] <Wug> legitkiller354: yes
#2565 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes legitkiller354
#2566 [22:38] <legitkiller354> minecraft*
#2567 [22:38] <Wug> marty: does it work with survival
#2568 [22:38] <Wug> (is only creative broken)
#2569 [22:38] <marty> idk ive never tried
#2570 [22:38] <legitkiller354> im in now how do i find the folder again but with the go bar
#2571 [22:38] <Wug> marty: can you delete blocks
#2572 [22:38] <legitkiller354> im in now how do i find the folder again but without* the go bar
#2573 [22:39] <marty> yea thats all i can do
#2574 [22:39] <DarkSasori> @Wug: this is the last version
#2575 [22:39] <legitkiller354> put it on teh desktop
#2576 [22:39] <Wug> DarkSasori: yeah, ok. you reinstalled it right?
#2577 [22:39] <legitkiller354> put it on the desktop? Grey?
#2578 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - No.
#2579 [22:40] <legitkiller354> so i cant put it on the desktop
#2580 [22:40] <Wug> marty: if you try to place a block, does it break them instead
#2581 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - To get to the folder again, you go to the launcher. Before logging in, you go to the options button. Hit the path there
#2582 [22:40] <marty> yes
#2583 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> That 'should' bring up the folder
#2584 [22:40] <DarkSasori> @Wug: i use this to run: /usr/java/bin/java
#2585 [22:40] <legitkiller354> logging in what minecraft?
#2586 [22:40] <Wug> marty: you're using a 1 button mouse
#2587 [22:40] <DarkSasori> @Wug: this folder where I install
#2588 [22:41] <legitkiller354> Grey?
#2589 [22:41] <Wug> DarkSasori: OK. BUT DID YOU REINSTALL IT
#2590 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - The launcher?
#2591 [22:41] <legitkiller354> ooooooo
#2592 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - The downloadable one you get from minecraft.net/download?
#2593 [22:41] <legitkiller354> log out of minecraft
#2594 [22:41] <marty> but how do i get a 2 button mouse im so confused
#2595 [22:41] <legitkiller354> right?
#2596 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Huh?
#2597 [22:41] <Wug> marty: left click deletes blocks, right click places them
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#2599 [22:42] <legitkiller354> to get the the folder i need to log out of minecraft
#2600 [22:42] <legitkiller354> right?
#2601 [22:42] <marty> ik that ive been trying it jus doesnt work
#2602 [22:42] <lutzee> marty: are you using the trackpad?
#2603 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - If you want to use the launcher path, you'll need to close minecraft. Otherwise, the Go to folder command works with Minecraft open
#2604 [22:42] <DarkSasori> @Wug: yes
#2605 [22:42] <marty> no im using a apple wireless mouse
#2606 [22:43] <legitkiller354> ok let me try
#2607 [22:43] <Wug> DarkSasori: ok, then how are you trying to launch it
#2608 [22:43] <Wug> (the launcher works right?)
#2609 [22:43] <Wug> (the launcher works right?)
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#2611 [22:43] <legitkiller354> i closed minecraft and open the launcher
#2612 [22:43] <legitkiller354> now what
#2613 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the options button? Above Log in?
#2614 [22:43] <legitkiller354> yes
#2615 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Hit that.
#2616 [22:44] <legitkiller354> why
#2617 [22:44] <marty> wug?
#2618 [22:44] <legitkiller354> and force update right?
#2619 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> You asked how to get to the minecraft folder without doing Go To
#2620 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> This is an alternative way
#2621 [22:44] <Wug> marty: I don't know how you'd play with a mouse with 1 button
#2622 [22:44] <legitkiller354> hold on wait
#2623 [22:44] <DarkSasori> @Wug: /usr/java/bin/java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -jar minecraft\ launcher.jar
#2624 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> When you have the prompt open, you'll see /home/yourname/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#2625 [22:44] <legitkiller354> which option bar
#2626 [22:44] <Wug> you sure you don't have a 2 button one laying around somewhere?
#2627 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> The options button, same one you use to bring up 'force update'
#2628 [22:45] <Wug> DarkSasori: and that runs it properly?
#2629 [22:45] <marty> no theres 2 buttons
#2630 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> This time, don't click on force update, I'm showing you an alternative way to get to your minecraft folder, legitkiller354.
#2631 [22:45] <legitkiller354> ok
#2632 [22:45] <legitkiller354> i see it
#2633 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Do you have it open?
#2634 [22:45] <Wug> marty: I don't know then. I don't know much about macs. I'm sure theres a way to do it but I don't know it
#2635 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a blue text, with /users/yourname/Library/Application Support/minecraft ?
#2636 [22:46] <marty> thxs for ur time
#2637 [22:46] <legitkiller354> i hishlight it dont i?
#2638 [22:46] <legitkiller354> highlight*
#2639 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Hit that blue link, it 'should' bring up the folder when you click on it
#2640 [22:46] <legitkiller354> it wont let me click it
#2641 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Oh fun..
#2642 [22:46] <DarkSasori> @Wug: this run, but same error
#2643 [22:46] <legitkiller354> very
#2644 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Then screw it. It works on any other OS.
#2645 [22:47] <legitkiller354> well thats not good help.
#2646 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> I blame macs.
#2647 [22:47] <legitkiller354> hahahah (sacacasm) where i slibrary
#2648 [22:47] <legitkiller354> hahahah (sacacasm) where i do i find the libray
#2649 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> The library folder is in your /users/yourname/ folder
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#2651 [22:48] <Wug> DarkSasori: immediately or after trying to start demo mode
#2652 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> It may be hidden, if you use os x lion or above.
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#2654 [22:48] <legitkiller354> ok let me search
#2655 [22:48] <reedlepee> How to force update...?
#2656 [22:48] <lutzee> ??> reedlepee forceupdate
#2657 [22:48] <VoxelHead> reedlepee: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2658 [22:49] <VoxelHead> reedlepee: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2659 [22:49] <reedlepee> login box will not come on.
#2660 [22:49] <legitkiller354> where do i find library Downloads or application
#2661 [22:49] <DarkSasori> @Wug: when i start demo mode
#2662 [22:49] <legitkiller354> where do i find library Downloads or applications*
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#2664 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Neither
#2665 [22:49] <reedlepee> login box will not come on
#2666 [22:50] <Wug> DarkSasori: if you force update, does it download first
#2667 [22:50] <legitkiller354> under... All my files
#2668 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Yes. It'll be in the users folder, then your username folder, then Library, then application support, then minecraft
#2669 [22:50] <lutzee> reedlepee: you are using the launcher and not the web client right?
#2670 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> You can easily get to it with the go to folder command (command+shift+g)
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#2672 [22:50] <reedlepee> yes
#2673 [22:50] <legitkiller354> well
#2674 [22:51] <reedlepee> web client no work either
#2675 [22:51] <legitkiller354> if i search it there is no mincraft folder only the icon that opens the launcher
#2676 [22:51] <DarkSasori> @Wug: same error
#2677 [22:51] <Wug> DarkSasori: but does it try to redownload
#2678 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Right, because macs hide the library folder by default on OSX lion or above
#2679 [22:52] <legitkiller354> ok..
#2680 [22:52] <legitkiller354> oooooo
#2681 [22:52] <legitkiller354> i went under documents and libray cam up
#2682 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Not the same library folder
#2683 [22:52] <reedlepee> I can log on, but thats it.
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#2685 [22:53] <legitkiller354> ffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
#2686 [22:53] <Darkenvy> I have a problem with redstone
#2687 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> There are multiple library folders on mac. The library folder that contains minecraft is under your home directory
#2688 [22:53] <Darkenvy> it all the sudden doesnt like to fire my repeaters
#2689 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> That home library folder is hidden by default
#2690 [22:53] <DarkSasori> @Wug: yes
#2691 [22:53] <legitkiller354> where is ther home directory
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#2693 [22:53] <legitkiller354> where is the* home directory
#2694 [22:53] <Darkenvy> power is AT the repeater and the repeater will not fire. Thus breaking my clocks essentially
#2695 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea. Don't use a mac myself
#2696 [22:53] <Wug> DarkSasori: are you on some weird distro or something
#2697 [22:54] <legitkiller354> ffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
#2698 [22:54] <Darkenvy> It has been working for hours then it all the sudden stopped working
#2699 [22:54] <lutzee> the home directory is ~/
#2700 [22:54] <Darkenvy> I have tried to reset minecraft and killall java but this did not help
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#2702 [22:54] <legitkiller354> WHERE IS HOME DIRECTORY
#2703 [22:55] <IsmAvatar> Is there a way to activate a minecart dispenser without also activating the track (it dispenses on a powered track)?
#2704 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Press Command+Shift+G, type in: ~/
#2705 [22:55] <DarkSasori> @Wug: i use the gentoo
#2706 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> That'll be your home directory
#2707 [22:55] <legitkiller354> ok let me try
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#2709 [22:55] <marty> i need help on minecraft it wont et me place a block im using a mac and i have a wireless mouse i have evrything i need to do it but it just deletes it instead even thow im clicking the number 2 side can anyone help me or if there is no help can someone tell me how to return it
#2710 [22:55] <legitkiller354> oooooo
#2711 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> marty - Hold down ctrl.. or command and click.
#2712 [22:56] <marty> ive done that
#2713 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't place the block?
#2714 [22:56] <legitkiller354> do i click
#2715 [22:56] <legitkiller354> desktop
#2716 [22:56] * Kanegasi is now known as :Kane{work}
#2717 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Yes
#2718 [22:56] <legitkiller354> documents
#2719 [22:56] <marty> no
#2720 [22:56] <legitkiller354> so DESKTOP
#2721 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> marty - Then press esc, go to options, then controls. Remap the place block command to another key
#2722 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Go to your hard drive
#2723 [22:57] <Wug> DarkSasori: what if you add ~/.minecraft/bin to your classparg
#2724 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Do you see the users folder?
#2725 [22:57] <Wug> path*
#2726 [22:57] <marty> ok
#2727 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Hello?
#2728 [22:57] <legitkiller354> Grey: *sigh* where is that
#2729 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - On your desktop
#2730 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a mac HD, or your hard drive. Whatever is in the upper right corner of your desktop
#2731 [22:58] <legitkiller354> ys
#2732 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Click on that
#2733 [22:58] <legitkiller354> yes*
#2734 [22:58] <legitkiller354> now?
#2735 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Do you now see a list of files and folders? Look for one labeled 'users'
#2736 [22:58] <legitkiller354> yes
#2737 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> click on that
#2738 [22:58] <legitkiller354> now?
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#2740 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what your mac username is? Look for that folder's name inside users
#2741 [22:59] <legitkiller354> now
#2742 [22:59] <legitkiller354> now?
#2743 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Look for a folder labeled Library?
#2744 [22:59] <Wug> no, tomorrow
#2745 [22:59] <Wug> yes now
#2746 [22:59] <Wug> when do you think
#2747 [22:59] <legitkiller354> Grey: *sigh* its not there
#2748 [22:59] <DarkSasori> @Wug: same error
#2749 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Then it's hidden.
#2750 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Why are we doing this again?
#2751 [23:00] <legitkiller354> sh*%
#2752 [23:00] <legitkiller354> sh*%
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#2755 [23:00] <legitkiller354> to find my minecraft folder
#2756 [23:00] <Wug> DarkSasori: no idea. got any other distros you can try it on
#2757 [23:00] <marty> look it works thank you so much i rlly apprechiate it it worked!
#2758 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> You already did, when you went via command+Shift+G, then ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#2759 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> That was the minecraft folder.
#2760 [23:01] <AwesomeLikeDat> My account keeps saying wrong username or password when I typed everything in correctly!! >:(
#2761 [23:01] <legitkiller354> yes
#2762 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> legitkiller354 - Then your question was answered.
#2763 [23:01] <legitkiller354> now hod do i put that on my desktop
#2764 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> You don't.
#2765 [23:01] <legitkiller354> now ho* do i put that on my desktop
#2766 [23:01] <legitkiller354> why not
#2767 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> If you move it out of ~/library/application support/minecraft onto your desktop, minecraft won't know to look on the desktop
#2768 [23:01] <DarkSasori> @Wug: I have a slackware in other pc
#2769 [23:02] <AwesomeLikeDat> help..?
#2770 [23:02] <legitkiller354> ooooohhhhhh
#2771 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> It'll continue to look at ~/libary/app.. bleh, I'm not typing that out again
#2772 [23:02] <Wug> DarkSasori: give that a try
#2773 [23:02] <legitkiller354> yeah origional stuff
#2774 [23:02] <Wug> ive googled the problem and not found anything
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#2776 [23:02] <legitkiller354> thanks so much
#2777 [23:02] <legitkiller354> are u apart of VoxleBox
#2778 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#2779 [23:02] <legitkiller354> grey
#2780 [23:02] <Wug> (lol)
#2781 [23:02] <legitkiller354> thats really cool
#2782 [23:03] * lutzee is now known as :zen
#2783 [23:03] <legitkiller354> is it public
#2784 [23:03] <legitkiller354> or private whitelist
#2785 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead has public commands.
#2786 [23:03] <legitkiller354> ummmm.... do u mean severs
#2787 [23:04] <Wug> no, commands
#2788 [23:04] <Wug> vox listens for certain things, and responds to them
#2789 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Oh, you mean Voxelbox, the minecraft server..
#2790 [23:04] <Wug> >.>
#2791 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> I have not launched minecraft in over.. 6 months.
#2792 [23:04] <legitkiller354> wow thats preety legit
#2793 [23:04] <legitkiller354> seriously
#2794 [23:05] * GreyVulpine shrugs
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#2795 [23:05] <Wug> what's minecraft
#2796 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> I don't know.
#2797 [23:05] <legitkiller354> and are u a part of the Ctp. sparkels adventure mao
#2798 [23:05] <legitkiller354> map*
#2799 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#2800 [23:05] <Wug> I heard its a game with blocks
#2801 [23:05] <legitkiller354> what?
#2802 [23:05] <Wug> and that the graphics are bad
#2803 [23:05] <legitkiller354> are u talking about minecraft
#2804 [23:06] <Wug> idk, am I
#2805 [23:06] <legitkiller354> ooooooooooooooooo your being saccastic
#2806 [23:06] <Wug> idk, am I :D
#2807 [23:06] * GreyVulpine snrks
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#2808 [23:06] <legitkiller354> can u join Volxel Head
#2809 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Voxelhead is not a server. Voxelbox is
#2810 [23:07] <legitkiller354> i have dreamed of it
#2811 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead also cannot join Voxelbox, as they're incompatible.
#2812 [23:07] <legitkiller354> hold it
#2813 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead has no need for Voxelbox, as it is vastly superior.
#2814 [23:08] <legitkiller354> are u a company
#2815 [23:08] <legitkiller354> or
#2816 [23:08] <legitkiller354> or
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#2818 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> We are a community of volunteers, people who happen to play minecraft (or used to).
#2819 [23:09] <Wug> oh look a freenoder
#2820 [23:09] <legitkiller354> what is the differece between Voxl head and voxl box
#2821 [23:09] <legitkiller354> what? (0-o)
#2822 [23:10] <legitkiller354> grey
#2823 [23:10] <Wug> VoxelHead is a program we use to assist ourselves
#2824 [23:10] <legitkiller354> im guessing your typing it
#2825 [23:10] <Wug> there's no person on the other end of it
#2826 [23:10] <legitkiller354> and voxel box?
#2827 [23:10] * Wug doesnt know what that is.
#2827 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Apparently is a minecraft server
#2828 [23:10] <legitkiller354> yes yes it is
#2829 [23:11] <legitkiller354> yes, yes it is
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#2831 [23:11] <legitkiller354> is there a way to join the Voxel Box/ Head
#2832 [23:11] <legitkiller354> Grey?
#2833 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> What?
#2834 [23:12] <legitkiller354> *sigh* your not talking
#2835 [23:12] <legitkiller354> is there a way to join the Voxel Box/ Head
#2836 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> I don't understand the question
#2837 [23:12] <Wug> ^
#2838 [23:12] <legitkiller354> '
#2839 [23:12] <Wug> you'd have to know what they are
#2840 [23:13] <Wug> VoxelHead is unjoinable
#2841 [23:13] <legitkiller354> can ii join Voxel/head
#2842 [23:13] <Wug> no.
#2843 [23:13] <VoxelHead> I am VoxelHead, an artificial lifeform.
#2844 [23:13] <legitkiller354> ooooooo right the program
#2845 [23:13] <legitkiller354> i mean the assossiation
#2846 [23:13] <VoxelHead> I have no affilation to Voxelbox.
#2847 [23:14] <legitkiller354> Grey u so changed your name
#2848 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Nope, I'm still here.
#2849 [23:14] <legitkiller354> Wug?
#2850 [23:14] <Wug> that was just VoxelHead rambling
#2851 [23:14] <Wug> he does that sometimes.
#2852 [23:14] <VoxelHead> Silence!
#2853 [23:14] * Wug bashes VoxelHead with a wrench
#2853 [23:14] <legitkiller354> dont trip the the fu@$ out
#2854 [23:14] <legitkiller354> stop changing your name
#2855 [23:14] <VoxelHead> Ow! You dare hurt me, weakling?
#2856 [23:15] * Wug clubs VoxelHead with GreyVulpine
#2856 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Hey!
#2857 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Leave me out of it!
#2858 [23:15] <Wug> *whud* *whud* *whud*
#2859 [23:15] <VoxelHead> Pitiful Mortal. You cannot hurt me.
#2860 [23:15] <legitkiller354> ooooooo Great Voxle Head may i join your assossiation
#2861 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> What association?
#2862 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> There is none. There is only Zuul.
#2863 [23:16] <legitkiller354> u said that u were a part of an assassiation
#2864 [23:16] <legitkiller354> assossiation*
#2865 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> I never said that.
#2866 [23:17] <DarkSasori> @Wug: now he run
#2867 [23:17] <legitkiller354> yse u did
#2868 [23:17] <legitkiller354> yes*
#2869 [23:17] <Wug> DarkSasori: it must be an issue with your environment then on the gentoo box
#2870 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> What I said was, we're a community of volunteers here.
#2871 [23:18] <Disori> GreyVulpine, I wanna join :)
#2872 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> We donate our time to help out others, like yourself, who need help with minecraft and minecraft accessories.
#2873 [23:18] <legitkiller354> im meant the community
#2874 [23:18] <legitkiller354> can i join it
#2875 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> Great, the fee is your undying devotion and 50 bucks to the community pizza fund.
#2876 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> We have bi-monthly potlucks and saturdays are medication days.
#2877 [23:19] * Disori only has gold bars :(
#2877 [23:19] <Wug> Disori: I accept those too
#2878 [23:19] <legitkiller354> i will never get tricked out of my money
#2879 [23:19] <DarkSasori> @Wug: yes....thankz for help and time
#2880 [23:19] <Wug> legitkiller354: you can write your $50 check payable to Wug Yacht Embezzlement Inc.
#2881 [23:20] <legitkiller354> hahahahahahhahahaha hell no
#2882 [23:20] <legitkiller354> i need websites
#2883 [23:20] <legitkiller354> and information
#2884 [23:20] <DarkSasori> @Wug: *thank you
#2885 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> See: http://www.google.com
#2886 [23:20] <Wug> DarkSasori: sorry I couldn't help further
#2887 [23:20] <legitkiller354> Wug, grey how old are u
#2888 [23:21] <Disori> DarkSasori, I rhyme with you :) <3
#2889 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Too old.
#2890 [23:21] <Wug> I'm somewhere between zero and infinite.
#2891 [23:21] <Wug> GreyVulpine is pushing 75
#2892 [23:21] <Wug> he's an old coot.
#2893 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Pfft.
#2894 [23:21] <Wug> you can tell by the way he "Pfft"s.
#2895 [23:21] <legitkiller354> THIS IS THE FBI
#2896 [23:22] <Wug> and also by the way he snrks.
#2897 [23:22] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2897 [23:22] <Wug> you haven't been so blessed as witnessing a ... never mind
#2898 [23:22] <legitkiller354> YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE 63 AMMENDMENT
#2899 [23:22] <legitkiller354> WE ARE TRACK YOUR COMPUTERS NOW
#2900 [23:23] * GreyVulpine sighs, and walks away.
#2900 [23:23] <Eddie> You have violated my peace.
#2901 [23:23] <legitkiller354> *shoot 3 bullets in your head*
#2902 [23:24] <legitkiller354> well thanks for the help on my minecraft
#2903 [23:24] <Wug> legitkiller354: night
#2904 [23:24] <Eddie> Thanks for the bullets
#2905 [23:24] <Wug> aren't you going to go play it now that you've finally gotten it working
#2906 [23:24] <legitkiller354> and proving Voxel head is a waste of my time and that of my assossiates
#2907 [23:25] <VoxelHead> Foolish Mortal. You know not of the power you speak of.
#2908 [23:25] <legitkiller354> and lastly I eat computer programs like you for breakfast
#2909 [23:26] <legitkiller354> good day sir, I SAID GOOD DAY!
#2910 [23:26] <legitkiller354> bye
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#2912 [23:27] <DarkSasori> Disori: heheh
#2913 [23:27] <Eddie> We had a mild case of weird
#2914 [23:27] <Eddie> Reminded me of myself a few years ago
#2915 [23:27] * GreyVulpine heads off for bed, has work shortly.
#2915 [23:27] <Eddie> o/
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#2918 [23:34] <panda> hi i had a problem with my account i deleted my %appdata and now i cant sign in what could i do?
#2919 [23:36] <panda> another problem is that i cant remember the email i made the account with to
#2920 [23:36] <Disori> Well, is it your email?
#2921 [23:36] <Wug> you'll have to try all of your emails
#2922 [23:36] <Disori> ^
#2923 [23:37] <DarkSasori> @Wug: he run with wine
#2924 [23:38] <panda> well the problem is i didnt make the account my friend did
#2925 [23:38] <panda> and it was his old email
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#2927 [23:40] <panda> i was wondering if i cound some how swich from the old one to my new one?
#2928 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> There is, if you can somehow prove that you (or your friend) paid for it
#2929 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#2930 [23:43] <panda> ok thanks ill try and do that
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#2933 [23:46] <Grand> hi all
#2934 [23:46] <Grand> the owner of the server i play uploaded the old map file for us to download how do i play it on single player?
#2935 [23:47] <Grand> is anyone here?
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#2937 [23:49] <Grand> equation can you help me?
#2938 [23:49] <equation> with?
#2939 [23:50] <Grand> nvm
#2940 [23:50] <Guest34915> Grand - what os are you on?
#2941 [23:52] <Grand> im on windows 7
#2942 [23:53] <Guest34915> Go to your start menu. In the search bar, type in: %appdata%
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#2944 [23:53] <Guest34915> Find the. mine craft folder there
#2945 [23:54] <Guest34915> You'll put the folder of the world into the saves folder
#2946 [23:54] <Guest34915> It'll then appear in your sp list
#2947 [23:54] <FroastJ> I migrated my minecraft account to a mojang account to update my email, but I don't like logging in on normal minecraft with my email. Can I change this?
#2948 [23:55] <Guest34915> There is no way to un migrate an account
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#2950 [23:55] <FroastJ> Oh
#2951 [23:55] <FroastJ> ok
#2952 [23:55] <FroastJ> thanks anyways