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#2 [00:00] <Guest> @test
#3 [00:01] <Guest> @WugBot
#4 [00:02] <Guest> how can I test my server?
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#6 [00:05] <downer> is it runnign on the same computer you play minecraft from?
#7 [00:07] <Guest> ya but I wanna see if others can connect
#8 [00:08] <Guest> I believe one of the bots have a command that can test servers
#9 [00:08] <gv> ;check s.Nerd.nu
#10 [00:08] <WugBot> s.Nerd.nu:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Reddit Survival Server (46/150)
#11 [00:09] <Guest> thanks
#12 [00:09] <gv> !Check s.Nerd.Nu
#13 [00:09] <Guest> !Check 98.155.13.134
#14 [00:11] <Guest> uh oh
#15 [00:12] <Guest> the local ip don't work either...
#16 [00:12] <Guest> only "localhost"
#17 [00:13] <Guest> help?
#18 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> Check firewall, check router settings
#19 [00:15] <Guest> router settings allow tcp and firewall allows java.exe
#20 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Are you port forwarding tcp port 25565 to your internal ip address?
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#22 [00:18] <Guest> yes
#23 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> Then what firewall do you use?
#24 [00:20] <Guest> windows firewall
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#26 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Anything else?
#27 [00:22] <Guest> no
#28 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Could you try disabling windows firewall to check?
#29 [00:23] <Guest> okay
#30 [00:24] <Danni> Hi, this just recently happened, but fore some reason, I cant break blocks/ semi blocks but I can kill mobs. Im on SPS so no server problem. I do have the more villages in biomes mod installed and thats it, but I dont even know if it works. If anyone could help, Id apreciate it, Than
#31 [00:26] <Guest> well 1.3 uses the multiplayer engine for singleplayer
#32 [00:26] <Guest> okay I tried disableing it but I still can't commect
#33 [00:26] <Guest> the router is horrible...
#34 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Guest - Are you sure you're using the right local ip address?
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#36 [00:27] <Guest> let me check again
#37 [00:28] <Danni> Does anyone know how to fix the problem?
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#39 [00:31] <Guest> yeah
#40 [00:32] <Guest> are you on adventure mode?
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#43 [00:36] <Calinou> Danni, is it your server/do you have access to it?
#44 [00:36] <Calinou> if no, you just don't have permission to build
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#48 [00:41] <Danni> Calinom its not on a server
#49 [00:41] <Danni> *Calinou'
#50 [00:41] <Calinou> ah ok, didn't see
#51 [00:41] <Calinou> ?? mosd
#52 [00:41] <Calinou> ?? mods
#53 [00:41] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#54 [00:41] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#55 [00:41] <Calinou> try uninstalling any mods you have then try again
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#58 [00:44] <Chirstain> Is mc.net down again? I can't login :/
#59 [00:45] <Chirstain> Seriously they need to get it the fuck together.
#60 [00:45] * AuBot kicked Chirstain from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hirstain :Please keep it civil.)
#61 [00:45] <Omen-> Hey guys :) . So I am having some trouble right now. Basically only thing that changed is I had an external display plugged in when I restarted the computer. Not sure if that contributed to it, but in any case.. http://pastebin.com/8zMG1z59
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#63 [00:45] <Chirstain> As I was saying
#64 [00:45] <Omen-> But minecraft is crashing on start up
#65 [00:45] <Chirstain> They need to get it together and g
#66 [00:46] <Chirstain> Ignore the "and g"
#67 [00:46] * Calinou highfives Omen- for linux :D
#67 [00:46] <Calinou> Omen-, update your video drivers
#68 [00:46] <Chirstain> :/ I need to get around to Linux some day
#69 [00:46] <Chirstain> I'm too lazy xD
#70 [00:46] <Calinou> ??> Chirstain attitude
#71 [00:46] <VoxelHead> Chirstain: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#72 [00:46] <VoxelHead> Chirstain: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#73 [00:46] <Danni> I installed the More villages in different biomes mod
#74 [00:47] <Danni> But im not sure if it works
#75 [00:47] <Calinou> Danni, yes, try using "force update" in the launcher options then retry (backup your minecraft.jar first)
#76 [00:47] <Omen-> Things "just work" when on linux, and much faster.. But that's a discussion for a different time and a different channel.
#77 [00:47] <Chirstain> Mk... I'm just wondering is it down or not?
#78 [00:47] <Calinou> Chirstain, http://help.mojang.com
#79 [00:47] <Calinou> Omen-, you mean ##linux on freenode? 8)
#80 [00:48] <Omen-> Calinou: Maybe. I usually hang out in #cenots , #freenode, or #defocus
#81 [00:48] <Omen-> centos*
#82 [00:49] <Chirstain> Speaking of, you think ubuntu would be a good distro for a first time user?
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#84 [00:50] <Chirstain> Meh
#85 [00:50] <Chirstain> I should probably ask elsewhere
#86 [00:50] <Chirstain> :P
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#88 [00:50] <Chirstain> This is minecrafthelp
#89 [00:50] <Chirstain> Mk, sorry to bother you guys
#90 [00:50] <Chirstain> Mk, sorry to bother you guys
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#96 [00:58] <Omen-> anyone know what's with my error though? Says it cannot detect my system info? Wha...?
#97 [01:00] <Omen-> nevermind, I love you all, I will just reboot without the external display connected and see if that fixes it
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#99 [01:02] <Flutterswag> Hey
#100 [01:03] <Flutterswag> Just wondering how to hook up a LAN network to a laptop, i do have an ethernet cable and slot avalable
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#102 [01:04] <Omen-> assuming this is a minecraft question, you will need a patch/cross over cable instead of a regular ethernet cable to connect two computers to each other without a router between
#103 [01:05] <Danni> Calinou, sorry my computer randomly shut down, after I said I installed the villages in biomes mod, did you say anything?
#104 [01:06] <Omen-> considering you are online right now Flutterswag you obviously have some kind of network connection, I assume you are using wireless? Your other computer on the same network can either be wired to your router or be wireless too. That still counts as Lan
#105 [01:06] <Omen-> LAN*
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#107 [01:07] <Micmager> Good morning ladies and gentlemen
#108 [01:08] <Micmager> I would like the assistance of someone who has played a bit of tekkit and knows about hosting a tekkit server
#109 [01:08] <Micmager> mainly, I want to open a tekkit server to LAN connections
#110 [01:08] <Danni> Calinou, you still their?
#111 [01:09] <Micmager> but tekkit appears to still be on version 1.2.5 and there's no open to LAN option
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#114 [01:19] <Calinou> you can still use lan
#115 [01:19] <Calinou> start server > connect to your server using 127.0.0.1
#116 [01:19] <Calinou> tell others to connect using your internal IP
#117 [01:19] <Calinou> (no portforwarding required to play LAN)
#118 [01:20] <Micmager> ah, alrighty then, using my default gateway still works then?
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#122 [01:29] <Micmager> now if only I could get the tekkit server to actually launch
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#124 [01:32] <Danni> Hi, Recently, Im not able to break blocks or place blocks in minecraft. I can kill mobs and such and can use furnaces and crafting tables, but not place them. Im in survival single player and the world had been working fine. I decided to delete everything that had to do with minecraft besides the saves and a customized texture pack. I only had 1 mod installed before I deleted and reinstalled minecraft. Could someone please help? Than
#125 [01:34] <Danni> Could anyone help please?
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#127 [01:36] <Danni> Please, anyone?
#128 [01:37] <Danni> Not to be rude, but I thought this chat was minecraft "help". Could I get any of that XD?
#129 [01:38] <Danni> ._.
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#142 [02:59] <Lego4life> What should i do if i attempted to register a minecraft account and it sent the verification code to the email i specified except the email which i provided does not exist?
#143 [03:01] <Lego4life> im trying to fully register the account but it seems to be stuck at the "Sent email verification key"
#144 [03:01] <Lego4life> due to the fact that the email which i gave it (it was a typo on my part) did not exist at the time
#145 [03:02] <Calinou> register another account with the right email this time
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#147 [03:02] <Calinou> (if you want a similar name: put an underscore _ at the end of your name)
#148 [03:02] <Lego4life> hmm
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#150 [03:03] <Calinou> if you're that inclined about having your original name, http://help.mojang.com > you could contact mojang
#151 [03:03] <Calinou> or you could directly change the email address
#152 [03:03] <Lego4life> how do you directly change the email address?
#153 [03:03] <Calinou> don't know, maybe it is possible, not sure
#154 [03:03] <Lego4life> yea its wierd
#155 [03:04] <Lego4life> i definatly will contact mojang cause its a bit anoying not being able to get the name you want because you typed in the wrong email lol
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#162 [03:22] <test> where can I get minecolony mod ver 1.3.2 without having to fill out surveys
#163 [03:22] <Calinou> ?? mods
#164 [03:22] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#165 [03:22] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#166 [03:22] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#171 [03:47] <ManLokWhoAmI> Any Mojang Staff online?
#172 [03:50] <TheNoodle> Nope.
#173 [03:51] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#174 [03:52] * Grim_Reaper twirls noodle around a fork
#174 [03:52] <ManLokWhoAmI> goddammit
#175 [03:52] <ManLokWhoAmI> uh...
#176 [03:52] <ManLokWhoAmI> i got issues with the migration fudge
#177 [03:52] <Grim_Reaper> We.. don't migrate fudge o.o
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#179 [03:53] <ManLokWhoAmI> I mean the Minecraft Account Migration. And I mean I'm Serious.
#180 [03:53] <Grim_Reaper> Whats happening exactly?
#181 [03:53] <ManLokWhoAmI> Acc migrated, use email as username
#182 [03:53] <ManLokWhoAmI> but I've read the forum and made a mojang acc
#183 [03:54] <ManLokWhoAmI> and changed it's pass
#184 [03:54] <ManLokWhoAmI> hi?
#185 [03:55] <ManLokWhoAmI> I feel like pinging everyone.
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#187 [03:56] <ManLokWhoAmI> Grim?
#188 [03:57] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry
#189 [03:57] <Grim_Reaper> Umm
#190 [03:57] <Grim_Reaper> Try logging in with your email
#191 [03:57] <Grim_Reaper> Make sure your password is correct
#192 [03:57] <Grim_Reaper> And if you're still having issues. Try a password reset
#193 [03:58] <Grim_Reaper> And if you're stil.. having issues. You may need to email mojang about it
#194 [03:58] <Katoteshikumei> I'm pretty sure this is a solid 'no', but do mojang accounts support more than one minecraft account per email?
#195 [04:00] <Grim_Reaper> I dont think so
#196 [04:00] <Katoteshikumei> ~sigh~
#197 [04:00] <Katoteshikumei> I'll have to get one of the accounts emails changed to my current email with periods in it, then
#198 [04:00] <Grim_Reaper> Most likely
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#200 [04:02] <Katoteshikumei> I need to get SCP-_­___-J out of my room if I'm expected to do that
#201 [04:03] <DiskDaemon> Katoteshikumei: Someone with the right security level clearance will be in touch to help you with that in due course.
#202 [04:05] * ManLokWhoAmI is now known as :IfYouCanHelpPlzPingMe
#203 [04:06] <ManLokWhoAmI> Sorry guys
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#206 [04:19] <MooseElkingtons> what Katoteshikumei?
#207 [04:20] <MooseElkingtons> SCP-420 is actually a bottle of whiskey.
#208 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> I believe he was meaning this one: http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-j
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#213 [04:24] <gabeandted> can anyone help- I have sent a "reset password" through the website with no relpy- what now??
#214 [04:25] <DiskDaemon> Use http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename to find out which usernames are associated with the email address that you provide http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#215 [04:25] <gabeandted> It seems you can only have one user name for each email- that correct?
#216 [04:26] <gabeandted> Apologies, should have started with "thankyou"
#217 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> That seems to be the case
#218 [04:26] <gabeandted> Thanks for the link- yep, thats what I have submitted previously, but no joy....
#219 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> But you can have multiple Mojang games associated with an email address
#220 [04:27] <DiskDaemon> If the email address that you give it isn't receiving an email from Mojang, then something may be up with your email account. It may be marking them as spam, for example
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#222 [04:30] <DiskDaemon> gameandted pm'd thanks for the help before quitting
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#228 [04:45] <d4rksnow> Hey Guys
#229 [04:45] <Grim_Reaper> Hey there
#230 [04:46] <d4rksnow> whats a good seed with lots of diamonds in a blacksmith
#231 [04:46] <d4rksnow> or a very deep hole
#232 [04:46] <d4rksnow> or a seed where all gravel falls to bedrock
#233 [04:46] <d4rksnow> there fun seeds
#234 [04:46] <d4rksnow> but i can't find any :(
#235 [04:46] <DiskDaemon> none are known yet
#236 [04:46] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#237 [04:46] <Grim_Reaper> Wait what
#238 [04:46] <Grim_Reaper> DiskDaemon why are you op
#239 [04:46] <Grim_Reaper> hax!
#240 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> You should open your eyes more - I've bene this way for several weeks
#241 [04:47] <d4rksnow> so can someone help me
#242 [04:47] <Grim_Reaper> I doubt it
#243 [04:47] <Grim_Reaper> We...
#244 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> You have competition too, I helped to raise someone else to voice status earlier on today
#245 [04:47] <Grim_Reaper> Help with actual minecraft issues
#246 [04:48] <d4rksnow> oh yeah
#247 [04:48] <Grim_Reaper> DiskDaemon Im not worried about competition :p
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#249 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> Possibly this -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlgt9DKecE0
#250 [04:48] <Grim_Reaper> Im here to help. Not try gain l33tadmins
#251 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> And http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1442722-awesome-seeds-show-them-off-132-only/
#252 [04:49] <DiskDaemon> Keep an eye on lutzee then :)
#253 [04:49] <Grim_Reaper> D:
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#255 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> My downloads folder now has over 1000 items - it's about time for a cleanup
#256 [04:50] <Grim_Reaper> yeah... get rid of those 999 pron videos
#257 [04:50] <d4rksnow> LOL
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#259 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> Those are moved out pretty quick beforehand :)
#260 [04:51] <d4rksnow> get this i get banned from mcforums for dissing a bunch of bronies
#261 [04:51] <d4rksnow> lol
#262 [04:51] <gijslakeman> my minecraft crashes after i log in
#263 [04:52] <Grim_Reaper> Lol DiskDaemon
#264 [04:52] <Grim_Reaper> d4rksnow bronies are srs stuff man
#265 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> respect is important, even if sometimes it's not deserved
#266 [04:52] <Grim_Reaper> If you make fun of them
#267 [04:52] <Grim_Reaper> It's like insulting the president
#268 [04:52] <Grim_Reaper> They wont take it :p
#269 [04:52] <d4rksnow> umm no they promote gay marriage
#270 [04:52] <Grim_Reaper> Bronies are... sacred
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#272 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> gijslakeman: Can we get a crash log?
#273 [04:52] <Grim_Reaper> I may not really be a fan of the whole brony thing or mlp
#274 [04:52] <Grim_Reaper> But anyways
#275 [04:53] <d4rksnow> if they did not show boat so much no one would care
#276 [04:53] <DiskDaemon> I'm an educated non-fan of mlp
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#278 [04:53] <d4rksnow> i've watched one episode of it
#279 [04:54] <d4rksnow> and it was like watching twilight or listening to justin bieber song
#280 [04:54] <Grim_Reaper> I watched I think.. 6 or 7 (was forced)
#281 [04:54] <d4rksnow> yeah my friend kinda pushed it on me
#282 [04:54] <d4rksnow> he told me i would like it
#283 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> I've seen half of season 1, and most of season 2. It's not for me.
#284 [04:54] <Grim_Reaper> The show itself is cute and gives off some hehe's here and there
#285 [04:55] <Grim_Reaper> But overall. It's not quite my type of show
#286 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> If you're going to criticise something, doing so from a stance of knowledge makes things even scarier
#287 [04:55] <Grim_Reaper> But I shall say this
#288 [04:55] <Grim_Reaper> I would rather watch mlp than listen to justin bieber or watch twilight >_>
#289 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> Indeed, but scrape away the thin shell of humour and there is very little else that it provides
#290 [04:56] <Grim_Reaper> Except cuteness..
#291 [04:56] <Grim_Reaper> Which I have an extreme soft spot for =\
#292 [04:56] <d4rksnow> anime has lots of awesome stuff
#293 [04:56] <DiskDaemon> vapid, is one of the words that I used a lot about mlp - anime (good anime, at least) is much more interesting
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#295 [04:57] <Grim_Reaper> Anime I like. Im not a gigantic fan
#296 [04:57] <Grim_Reaper> But it's nice to watch
#297 [04:57] <Grim_Reaper> I enjoyed umm..
#298 [04:57] <Grim_Reaper> Soul Eater
#299 [04:59] <d4rksnow> yeah bones made that
#300 [04:59] <d4rksnow> watch fma b
#301 [04:59] <d4rksnow> and darker than black
#302 [05:00] <Grim_Reaper> Deadman wonderland.. I've started getting really into
#303 [05:00] <Grim_Reaper> I've enjoyed it so far
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#307 [05:11] <hebam64> ok
#308 [05:11] <hebam64> when I come to play multi it always says timed out
#309 [05:11] <hebam64> when I put ip in
#310 [05:12] <hebam64> I don't understand why it is doing this
#311 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> What does it say with s.nerd.nu ?
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#313 [05:13] <hebam64> it just says error timed out
#314 [05:13] <DiskDaemon> hebam64: Can you please share with us the result that you get from http://www.speedtest.net/
#315 [05:13] <hebam64> ok
#316 [05:16] <hebam64> ping is 42
#317 [05:16] <hebam64> download is 5.22
#318 [05:16] <hebam64> upload is 0.64
#319 [05:16] <DiskDaemon> Can we please see the link for the shared results?
#320 [05:17] <hebam64> http://www.speedtest.net/
#321 [05:18] <DiskDaemon> When you click on the "share these results" you will get a link that you can copy, similar to http://www.speedtest.net/result/2156576729.png
#322 [05:18] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#323 [05:20] <hebam64> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2156572135.png
#324 [05:20] <hebam64> sorry it took so long
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#328 [05:21] <DiskDaemon> Thank you for that. I would say that your upload speed is the biggest problem that you have there. Being grade D, there aren't many people with worse results
#329 [05:22] <hebam64> so what should I do?
#330 [05:22] <DiskDaemon> It may be possible to obtain faster internet speeds by contacting your ISP and paying them more, or by using a different ISP.
#331 [05:23] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#332 [05:23] <hebam64> I am currently at att highest net speed right now for dsl
#333 [05:23] <hebam64> 6 mps
#334 [05:23] <hebam64> or 6 however u measure it, sorry
#335 [05:23] <DiskDaemon> If you are sharing your internet connection, you may be able to improve on that also by turning off other things that use the same internet connection
#336 [05:24] <DiskDaemon> Multiplayer requires a combination of both upload and download
#337 [05:24] <hebam64> oh I have other comp connect to router
#338 [05:25] <Grim_Reaper> Then unless you have an ISP that offers better speeds, chances are you wont get much improvement| Also as DiskDaemon said. if another computer on your networking is using the network at all, downloading/uploading things. That can also slow your speed down
#339 [05:25] <DiskDaemon> Try contacting others in your city who have multiplayer servers. You may have less connection issues with them.
#340 [05:25] <Grim_Reaper> But you shouldn't be timing out though with that speed
#341 [05:25] <Grim_Reaper> I have less than that, and I can play ok
#342 [05:25] <Grim_Reaper> You should try connect to another server
#343 [05:26] <hebam64> which server?
#344 [05:26] <Grim_Reaper> Anything you wanna try i guess o.o
#345 [05:27] <Grim_Reaper> Plenty of ones posted on the minecraft forums
#346 [05:27] <DiskDaemon> ??> hebam64 smp/servers
#347 [05:27] <VoxelHead> hebam64: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#348 [05:27] <VoxelHead> hebam64: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#349 [05:28] <DiskDaemon> If it were a setting on the computer preventing you from connecting, you would get a "failed to connect" message. Instead, the timeout message you're getting means that it's your internet speed to the server which is causing the connection issue.
#350 [05:28] <DiskDaemon> hebam64: Can you do something else for us? Run this command from the command prompt: tracert s.nerd.nu
#351 [05:29] <hebam64> kk, hold
#352 [05:29] <Grim_Reaper> I'll never understand why somebody would get a domain like that..
#353 [05:29] <DiskDaemon> Wait for it to finish tracing, then right-click on the screen, select all, press Enter to copy, and go to www.pastebin.com to paste the results
#354 [05:30] <DiskDaemon> That should be explained in the FAQ
#355 [05:31] <Grim_Reaper> DiskDaemon.pronz.xxx
#356 [05:31] <hebam64> kk, its still running
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#358 [05:32] <hebam64> done
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#361 [05:35] <hebam64> you still with me DiskDaemon?
#362 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#363 [05:36] <hebam64> kk, ty
#364 [05:39] <hebam64> so have u have my trouble issue from copy?
#365 [05:39] <d4rksnow> is the whither going to be a boss mob
#366 [05:39] <d4rksnow> it looks like it will be in a snow biome
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#368 [05:39] <DiskDaemon> Once you paste it to pastebin.com and submit it, you need to let us know the link of the submitted content
#369 [05:40] <d4rksnow> Halloween update 2
#370 [05:40] <d4rksnow> 31st of october
#371 [05:40] <hebam64> http://pastebin.com/
#372 [05:41] <DiskDaemon> hebam64: That's the main site. When you submit it, a different link will be for the submitted content
#373 [05:41] <DiskDaemon> ??> hebam64 pastebin
#374 [05:41] <VoxelHead> hebam64: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#375 [05:41] <hebam64> http://pastebin.com/z9D3qUEW
#376 [05:43] <DiskDaemon> Those are really good ping times so that server
#377 [05:43] <d4rksnow> running a server on telstra internet is a no go
#378 [05:43] <hebam64> what does that mean?
#379 [05:44] <DiskDaemon> I'm going to investigate something and see if it's relevant
#380 [05:45] <hebam64> ok
#381 [05:46] * aaomidi is away: Cause i can!
#381 [05:50] <DiskDaemon> No, it wasn't relevant
#382 [05:50] <hebam64> ok
#383 [05:51] <hebam64> I really want to play with friend, but can't
#384 [05:51] <hebam64> do u have any other suggestions for me?
#385 [05:53] <DiskDaemon> It may be possible that others could have info that can help at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/151-minecraft-game-client-support/
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#387 [05:53] <hebam64> ok I will try there then, ty so much for your time
#388 [05:54] <DiskDaemon> It may also be because your client isn't of the same version as the server
#389 [05:55] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#390 [05:55] <hebam64> which means what?
#391 [05:55] <Grim_Reaper> Which means the server and you are running different versions
#392 [05:55] <Grim_Reaper> And thats why you may not be able to connect
#393 [05:56] <hebam64> oh, I just bought the game, so I thought I had current version
#394 [05:57] <DiskDaemon> Which version are you using?
#395 [05:57] <hebam64> let me check
#396 [05:58] <hebam64> 1.3.2
#397 [05:58] <DiskDaemon> That sounds right.
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#399 [05:59] <TheEskil> Hey. Does anyone have the Minecraft.app launcher for Mac OS X? The one on minecraft.net is broken (file size 149KB)...
#400 [05:59] <DiskDaemon> According to the information we have here, you shouldn't have much trouble connecting to multiplayer servers
#401 [05:59] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#402 [05:59] <hebam64> there must be something blocking it, maybe
#403 [06:00] <DiskDaemon> ??> TheEskil mac/gatekeeper
#404 [06:00] <VoxelHead> TheEskil: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#405 [06:00] <Grim_Reaper> ports perhaps
#406 [06:00] <Grim_Reaper> firewall
#407 [06:00] <TheEskil> DiskDaemon: http://cl.ly/image/0o0q1Z0l1g3y
#408 [06:00] <TheEskil> As I said, it's broken
#409 [06:01] <DiskDaemon> TheEskil: I'm no expert on macs, but if you're using Lion, you're having that gatekeeper issue
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#411 [06:01] <hebam64> no I'm on desktop pc
#412 [06:02] <TheEskil> DiskDaemon: This has nothing to do with gatekeeper. The file is incomplete
#413 [06:02] <Grim_Reaper> hebam64 is your firewall maybe not blocking it
#414 [06:02] <hebam64> I will check
#415 [06:02] <DiskDaemon> TheEskil: I'm glad that you know more about fixing this issue then
#416 [06:02] <DiskDaemon> Dammit, web-based java is still vulnerable http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Latest-Java-sandbox-is-still-vulnerable-1697550.html
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#418 [06:03] <TheEskil> DiskDaemon: The only fix is to get a hold of the complete compiled file
#419 [06:03] <TheEskil> it's missing 120KB
#420 [06:04] <TheEskil> Hence why I asked if anyone had it stored locally
#421 [06:04] <DiskDaemon> TheEskil: It's only available via minecraft.net
#422 [06:05] <TheEskil> OK, thanks for your help
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#424 [06:06] <tyteen4a03> ugh
#425 [06:06] <tyteen4a03> too late, but oh well
#426 [06:06] <tyteen4a03> was in the middle of downloading a md5 generator
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#453 [08:01] <ManLokWhoAmI> Guys help me with minecraft account migration
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#455 [08:03] <ManLokWhoAmI> guys help me please
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#467 [08:26] <Sisko^^^> I need to change the email of my account, used to buy minecraft
#468 [08:26] <Sisko^^^> Can anybody help me?
#469 [08:26] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
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#471 [08:29] <Sisko^^^> thanks
#472 [08:29] <Sisko^^^> :)
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#474 [08:33] <Sisko^^^> good bye
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#481 [08:46] <d4rksnow> The enderdragon needs noise
#482 [08:46] <d4rksnow> it has none
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#484 [08:52] <tyteen4a03> hi mr_flea
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#486 [08:54] <TheScavenger> Anything particular up with minecraft now ?
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#488 [08:57] <tyteen4a03> TheScavenger: what do you mean?
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#492 [09:00] <bobangel> II haven't gotten my conformation e-mail yet and I requested it last night. Can anyone help? I want to sign up.
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#495 [09:04] <joshms19> hello
#496 [09:04] <Andrio> Hello
#497 [09:05] <joshms19> When ever i join a server i get online for about 10 seconds and i crash
#498 [09:05] <joshms19> its only with the one server tho
#499 [09:05] <Andrio> Do you actually crash or just lose connection?
#500 [09:05] <Calinou> tell the server to fix itself
#501 [09:06] <Calinou> you can't do anything against it - it probably uses mods
#502 [09:06] <joshms19> It says Jave primary something like that in a window pops up and tha i crash
#503 [09:06] <joshms19> Ive been playing this server since i bought minecraft jjust about
#504 [09:06] <joshms19> And its been 2 weeks since this started
#505 [09:08] <joshms19> Like i can join any other server but that one
#506 [09:08] <Calinou> try another server
#507 [09:08] <Calinou> it probably requires client mods to connect
#508 [09:09] <joshms19> No i am possitive it doesnt
#509 [09:09] <joshms19> I am admin on it and been playing it for like 9 months, friends with the owners and they would have told me and the active player are still able to get on
#510 [09:12] <joshms19> Any thing that i need to do to fix this?
#511 [09:12] <joshms19> I came to the help channel and im not getting much help??
#512 [09:12] <joshms19> I came to the help channel and im not getting much help??
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#514 [09:12] <Calinou> ??> joshms19 attitude
#515 [09:12] <VoxelHead> joshms19: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#516 [09:12] <VoxelHead> joshms19: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
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#518 [09:13] <joshms19> okay sorry
#519 [09:13] <joshms19> Just ive been waiting and they havent said anything.
#520 [09:14] <Poks> Isnt there suppoed to be a crash log?
#521 [09:14] <joshms19> What you mean a crash log?
#522 [09:14] <Poks> ...
#523 [09:14] <joshms19> Like in the .minecraft folder?
#524 [09:14] <Poks> A log that generates when you crash?
#525 [09:14] <Poks> I belive its where your minecraft.exe is
#526 [09:15] <joshms19> Im not sure... nothing pops up when i crash
#527 [09:15] <joshms19> The program closes
#528 [09:15] <Poks> like err pid
#529 [09:15] <Poks> something
#530 [09:15] <joshms19> and thats all
#531 [09:15] <Poks> Wheres your minecraft.exe ?
#532 [09:15] <joshms19> the .minecraft folder
#533 [09:15] <Poks> Then it would be there
#534 [09:15] <joshms19> I havent moved it or anyhting
#535 [09:16] <Poks> Any text files there?
#536 [09:16] <joshms19> One sec and ill tell yah
#537 [09:16] <Poks> dont paste it here ^^
#538 [09:17] <joshms19> kk... but i cant find any
#539 [09:17] <Poks> :/
#540 [09:17] <Poks> odd
#541 [09:17] <Poks> Well im out
#542 [09:17] <joshms19> Waut
#543 [09:17] <joshms19> I found the crash reports
#544 [09:17] <Poks> http://pastebin.com/
#545 [09:17] <joshms19> ?
#546 [09:17] <Poks> paste it in there
#547 [09:17] <joshms19> OKay
#548 [09:17] <Poks> and stuff like that
#549 [09:17] <joshms19> Thanks for your help
#550 [09:17] <Poks> meh
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#578 [10:55] <ninjaminer74> I just bought Minecraft and am playing the game but I can't break anything.
#579 [10:55] <ninjaminer74> No dirt blocks, stone, wood. Could someone help me? Thanks
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#581 [10:56] <Andrio> Are you mashing the mouse button?
#582 [10:56] <ninjaminer74> yes
#583 [10:57] <Andrio> Don't.
#584 [10:57] <Andrio> You're supposed to hold down the button instead ._.
#585 [10:57] <ninjaminer74> ok ty1
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#587 [11:00] <halloo> Can anybody help me?
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#589 [11:00] <halloo> ...
#590 [11:00] <halloo> Hello?
#591 [11:00] <Andrio> Hello
#592 [11:00] <Andrio> what do you need help with?
#593 [11:01] <halloo> I am trying to Run MC on this new computer
#594 [11:01] <halloo> it's a 2008 and it's hard drive went bad immediately
#595 [11:01] <halloo> we finally replaced it and it's practically brand new
#596 [11:01] <halloo> it's a linux/ubuntu
#597 [11:01] <halloo> and when I open up the minecraft.net game (I don't want to download) nothing shows
#598 [11:01] <ninjaminer74> one more thing how do i place block?
#599 [11:01] <halloo> right click
#600 [11:02] <ninjaminer74> thanks
#601 [11:02] <halloo> yeah
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#603 [11:02] <Andrio> Select the block you want using the number keys and right click
#604 [11:02] <halloo> Anyways, I don't know why it's not running :(
#605 [11:02] <ninjaminer74> how do i place blocks with out a mouse?
#606 [11:03] <halloo> right click with the laptop
#607 [11:03] <halloo> on the mousepad
#608 [11:03] <halloo> can anybody help me though?
#609 [11:03] <ninjaminer74> tried that didn't work
#610 [11:03] <halloo> click esc
#611 [11:03] <Andrio> I'm not familiar with Linux Minecraft ._.
#612 [11:03] <Poks> Ninja- mac or pc? :/
#613 [11:03] <ninjaminer74> i would love to but i'm new
#614 [11:03] <halloo> and click on controls
#615 [11:03] <ninjaminer74> sry bye
#616 [11:04] <halloo> :(
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#618 [11:04] <Calinou> Andrio, sounds like someone wants to play only with keyboard
#619 [11:04] <Calinou> :}
#620 [11:04] <halloo> Is anybody familiar with Linux MC?
#621 [11:04] <Poks> lol
#622 [11:04] <Andrio> lol
#623 [11:04] <Calinou> halloo, me
#624 [11:04] <halloo> Can you help me then?
#625 [11:04] <Calinou> linux mc is just the same as windows/mac os x mc; java works on all platforms the same away
#626 [11:05] <Calinou> don't ask to ask; yes
#627 [11:05] <halloo> okay
#628 [11:06] <halloo> so I have never updated Java on this computer, I just put Ubuntu and a new hard drive on this computer last night... Do I need to put a new version on it?
#629 [11:06] <halloo> Well I suppose I do...
#630 [11:07] <halloo> java.com?
#631 [11:07] <halloo> 32 bit java...?
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#633 [11:08] <tyteen4a03> halloo: it depends on if your computer is 32bit or 64bit
#634 [11:08] <halloo> I'm searching for a 32 bit
#635 [11:08] <Calinou> halloo, openjdk is installed by default on ubuntu
#636 [11:08] <Calinou> why did you install 32 bit ubuntu? almost all computers today support 64 bit
#637 [11:09] <halloo> Because this computer is 4 years old
#638 [11:09] <Calinou> openjdk works 95% of the time
#639 [11:09] <halloo> the hard drive busted on day 1
#640 [11:09] <Calinou> 4 years old = supports 64 bit perfectly
#641 [11:09] <halloo> so it sat unused for years
#642 [11:09] <halloo> finally put a new harddrive in it
#643 [11:09] <Calinou> I have a laptop from 2009 which had 32 bit winblows vista; I put linux mint 64 bit, works perfectly
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#645 [11:09] <halloo> hmm
#646 [11:09] <halloo> well we have a 32 bit
#647 [11:10] <Calinou> sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
#648 [11:10] <Calinou> there you have your openjdk in case it is not installed
#649 [11:10] <halloo> what?
#650 [11:10] <halloo> I am a complete newbie with this
#651 [11:10] <halloo> is that the ctrl+alt+t ?
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#653 [11:11] <halloo> I apologize for my incompetence but I am still learning this...
#654 [11:11] <Calinou> yes, type that command in a terminal; you will have to type your password after doing this command
#655 [11:11] <ninjaminer74> same i need to know how to seperate block
#656 [11:11] <Calinou> (stars/dots do not appear when typing password, this is intended)
#657 [11:11] <Calinou> (stars/dots do not appear when typing password, this is intended)
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#659 [11:12] <ninjaminer74> also i still can't place blocks!!!
#660 [11:13] <tyteen4a03> ninjaminer74: Select the stack, right click it, move to an empty slot and left click
#661 [11:13] <tyteen4a03> ninjaminer74: make sure your control settings are correcty
#662 [11:13] <tyteen4a03> s/correcty/correct
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#664 [11:13] <ninjaminer74> ok thanks
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#667 [11:15] <ninjaminer74> great still isn't working with my mouse pad
#668 [11:18] <ninjaminer74> how do i eat
#669 [11:18] <Necrodoom> hold food, hold right
#670 [11:18] <ninjaminer74> with a lap top?
#671 [11:18] <Necrodoom> right click*
#672 [11:18] <Necrodoom> if you mean PC
#673 [11:18] <ninjaminer74> no mac
#674 [11:19] <wolftherian> Two fingers on the touch pad then click
#675 [11:19] <ninjaminer74> i don't have a mouse
#676 [11:19] <ninjaminer74> ty
#677 [11:19] <wolftherian> Did they remove cobblestone fences? I can't seem to craft them or find them in creative mode.
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#679 [11:20] <Halloo> Is calinou there?
#680 [11:20] <Necrodoom> wolftherian: PC? nonsnapshot versions dont have cobblestone fences
#681 [11:21] <wolftherian> Yeah, PC. What do you mean by snapshot?
#682 [11:22] <Necrodoom> well, if you dont know what it doesnt matter
#683 [11:23] <Necrodoom> i dont think cobblestone fences existed
#684 [11:23] <Halloo> I got that open JDK plugin thing now what do I do?
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#688 [11:28] <ninjaminer74> help i need to place blocks on my lap top!
#689 [11:29] <Halloo> You have right clicked? You changed your controls off of right click onto something else?
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#691 [11:29] <ninjaminer74> ok
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#694 [11:31] <Chris__> what do i do when it says mincraft has crashed?
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#696 [11:31] <ninjaminer74> does any one know a multiplayer on lan?
#697 [11:32] <ninjaminer74> hello?
#698 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: Is there an error message?
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#700 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> ninjaminer74: Do you know what LAN means?
#701 [11:32] <ninjaminer74> no
#702 [11:32] <Halloo> Local access network
#703 [11:33] <Chris__> yes after i log in there is a minecraft has crashed error
#704 [11:33] <ninjaminer74> figured
#705 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: Can you copy the error and paste it to pastebin.com?
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#707 [11:33] <ninjaminer74> does anyone know one?
#708 [11:33] <Chris__> ok
#709 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> ninjaminer74: You can only open one yourself, or have somebody in your household open one
#710 [11:34] <ninjaminer74> gee thanks
#711 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> ninjaminer74: Local Access Network is an internal network - it's not meant to be public
#712 [11:34] <ninjaminer74> ok i get it
#713 [11:34] <ninjaminer74> thank you
#714 [11:34] <Necrodoom> ninjaminer74: if you want a public, online server, you need minecraftserver.jar, downloaded from minecraft.net
#715 [11:35] <ninjaminer74> ok thanks guys
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#719 [11:36] <Chris__> ok i pasted it on there
#720 [11:36] * Calinou slaps the clueless ubuntu user
#720 [11:36] <Necrodoom> Chris__: copy address of webpage, paste here
#721 [11:36] <Calinou> and facepalms
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#723 [11:37] <Chris__> http://pastebin.com/Xs14FX1a
#724 [11:39] <tyteen4a03> ??> Chris__ win/dxdiag/bat
#725 [11:39] <VoxelHead> Chris__: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#726 [11:39] <VoxelHead> Chris__: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#727 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: Oh, and first remove any texture packs you have
#728 [11:40] <Chris__> ? what do i do?
#729 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: Do you know what a texture pack is?
#730 [11:41] <Chris__> yes i dont have any i deleted my .minecraft before
#731 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: Good, go to your .minecraft folder and delete your texturepacks folder
#732 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: is it just me or is your temper shorter than you used to be?
#733 [11:42] <Chris__> i dont have on i only have the bin, last login, and crash reports
#734 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: OK
#735 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> ??> Chris__ win/dxdiag/bat
#736 [11:42] <VoxelHead> Chris__: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#737 [11:42] <VoxelHead> Chris__: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#738 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: Follow the instructions posted by VoxelHead
#739 [11:42] <Calinou> tyteen4a03, no, I just hate ubuntu and their users for this reason
#740 [11:42] <Calinou> they can't be bothered to search/read
#741 [11:43] <Calinou> he clearly didn't google the question first
#742 [11:43] <Calinou> it's pretty easy: software center > java > install > add executable bit on launcher because warning says so > run
#743 [11:43] <Chris__> guys what website do i go to for that?
#744 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: no, in general, whether in #mchelp or in #mcdevs
#745 [11:43] <Calinou> you went through no terminal
#746 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: pastebin.com
#747 [11:43] <Calinou> tyteen4a03, I'm banned from #mcdevs
#748 [11:44] <Chris__> no to get the win/dxdiag/bat thing
#749 [11:44] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: after you constantly smack people for no reason, I wouldn't be surprised
#750 [11:44] <tyteen4a03> ??> Chris__ win/dxdiag/bat
#751 [11:44] <VoxelHead> Chris__: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#752 [11:44] <VoxelHead> Chris__: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#753 [11:44] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: Read the instructions carefully
#754 [11:45] <Chris__> ok
#755 [11:47] <Chris__> http://pastebin.com/3es6n9L6
#756 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> ??> Chris__ gpu/nvidia
#757 [11:48] <VoxelHead> Chris__: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#758 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: Please go to that page, and use Option 2
#759 [11:48] <Chris__> what driver will i need fro there?
#760 [11:48] <Chris__> ok
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#766 [11:52] <Chris__> it made my computer freeze
#767 [11:52] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: What did?
#768 [11:53] <Chris__> when i was doing the option 2 and it was scanning it froze or became unresponsive
#769 [11:54] <Chris__> should i try it again?
#770 [11:56] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: hang on
#771 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: Install this driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-301.42-whql-driver.html
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#775 [12:07] <Chris__> ok i installed it
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#777 [12:12] <Chris__> What do i do after i install the driver?
#778 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> Chris__: restart the computer and try again
#779 [12:13] <Chris__> ok
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#785 [12:18] <Chris__> thank you so much it works now!
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#795 [12:50] <Ubuntu> hello?
#796 [12:51] <Ubuntu> I have been working on this thing for about an hour and I cannot find a STRAIGHT answer.
#797 [12:51] <Ubuntu> I need to get something for this Ubuntu OS computer to run MC
#798 [12:51] <Ubuntu> I got Icedtea and open jdk and 5 different types of java
#799 [12:51] <lutzee> Ubuntu: you need to update the lwjgl libraries
#800 [12:51] <Ubuntu> but then it tells me I needed to update what's it called.... iced tea
#801 [12:52] <Ubuntu> and it takes me to a freakin' wiki page that has nothing of use on it!
#802 [12:52] <lutzee> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#803 [12:52] <Ubuntu> Will it work on this OS?
#804 [12:52] <Ubuntu> Everything seems only to work for Windows
#805 [12:53] <lutzee> Ubuntu: ofcourse it will, :)
#806 [12:53] <lutzee> I've set minecraft up on ubuntu fine :)
#807 [12:53] <lutzee> just it doesn't like the libraries for some reason
#808 [12:53] <Ubuntu> What do I do with it?
#809 [12:54] <lutzee> follow the tutorial at the link i posted, it explains everything on how to update the libraries
#810 [12:54] <Ubuntu> oh okay
#811 [12:55] <Ubuntu> Where is the .minecraft on ubuntu's file system?
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#813 [12:58] <lutzee> Ubuntu: ~/.minecraft
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#815 [12:58] <Ubuntu> just found that, thanks :L
#816 [12:59] <Ubuntu> all it did was tell me that it was a directory :(
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#818 [13:02] <Ubuntu> I couldn't find it
#819 [13:03] <lutzee> It's a hidden folder is why :)
#820 [13:03] <lutzee> any folders in linux that start with a dot are hidden
#821 [13:03] <Ubuntu> home/<user>/.minecraft is a directory
#822 [13:03] <Ubuntu> ohh
#823 [13:03] <Ubuntu> how do I find that...? Is it possible?
#824 [13:04] <Ubuntu> ctrl+H
#825 [13:04] <lutzee> pressing ctrl+h will show the hidden folders yes
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#829 [13:06] <Quinn> I have recenlty bought minecraft bought my account is still not premium and that was a day ago/
#830 [13:06] <Quinn> hello?
#831 [13:07] <lutzee> Quinn: can you check to see if he money has left your bank account
#832 [13:07] <Quinn> the bank had called and asked if I wanted to go through with the payment
#833 [13:08] <lutzee> hmm okay
#834 [13:08] <Quinn> all i got after buying was an order code.
#835 [13:08] <lutzee> Even so check to see anyway, they might not have let it go through yet
#836 [13:08] <gv> I'd call again, to make sure the payment posted
#837 [13:09] <lutzee> (good bank though, actually phoning to say they have blocked it instead of leaving you in the dark)
#838 [13:09] <gv> Better than most we've seen
#839 [13:09] <Quinn> I got an order code.. what is an order code
#840 [13:09] <Ubuntu> It still says that I need to update icedtea!?
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#842 [13:10] <gv> Quinn doesn't mean anything
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#844 [13:10] <lutzee> Ubuntu: er one minute let me check something
#845 [13:10] <Ubuntu> ok
#846 [13:10] <lutzee> ahhh i know why
#847 [13:10] <Ubuntu> si?
#848 [13:11] <lutzee> OpenJDK isn't the nicest java version
#849 [13:11] <lutzee> you need sunjava instead
#850 [13:11] <gv> The thing that matters is the bank actually releasing the money, and you getting an email confirming payment with a transaction id
#851 [13:11] <Ubuntu> huh?
#852 [13:11] <Ubuntu> Well can you give me a WORKING link?
#853 [13:11] <Ubuntu> I have hit so many bull links today.... I'm going insane
#854 [13:11] <Quinn> ok so should i try again?
#855 [13:11] <gv> Call your bank first
#856 [13:12] <lutzee> Ubuntu: okay well i followed this http://debianhelp.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts/
#857 [13:12] <gv> If the payment failed to go through, then try again
#858 [13:12] <Quinn> ok.. so the order code thingy isn't anything?
#859 [13:12] <lutzee> Note this is my own advise
#860 [13:12] <gv> Quinn: right
#861 [13:12] <Quinn> ok thanks for the held :D
#862 [13:12] <Quinn> help*
#863 [13:13] <Ubuntu> well your advice is better then any other thing I have gotten
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#871 [13:20] <Ubuntu> It's just not working
#872 [13:20] <Ubuntu> I give up
#873 [13:20] <Ubuntu> I open up the launcher and it takes a day to load
#874 [13:20] <Ubuntu> *not loading
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#879 [13:26] <zebra77788> HI, I need help with downloading MInecraft. I got it a couple weeks ago and I have a Mac. I opened the app in my dock and it was 'damaged and cannot be opened' and it recommended that I move it to Trash. So I said alright maybe I should download another and it will work but every time I download it it wont open
#880 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#881 [13:27] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#882 [13:28] <zebra77788> I did that, anything else
#883 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Then download minecraft again
#884 [13:29] <zebra77788> Ok, one second
#885 [13:29] <zebra77788> Ok, I downloaded it and it is in my downloads
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#887 [13:30] <zebra77788> Hello?
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#889 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Then unzip and run the minecraft.app file
#890 [13:32] <zebra77788> Yay it worked thanks GreyVulpine
#891 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing. Enjoy.
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#901 [13:43] <jetpackhalo> hi my computer is stuck on the download and its done updating for a long time
#902 [13:43] <lutzee> jetpackhalo: what antivirus do you use?
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#906 [13:44] <jetpackhalo> well it says updating done but it doesnt let me play
#907 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Are you trying the demo?
#908 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Or do you have a premium account?
#909 [13:45] <jetpackhalo> no i purchased the game
#910 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Has it ever worked before?
#911 [13:45] <jetpackhalo> no i got this today
#912 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows? MacOS? Some flavor of linux?
#913 [13:46] <jetpackhalo> im using a window
#914 [13:46] <jetpackhalo> laptop
#915 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Do you know if your windows username has a ! mark in it?
#916 [13:47] <jetpackhalo> i know it doesnt
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#918 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Alright. could you go to the launcher, and hit the options button? There, hit the force update button, and try logging in again
#919 [13:48] <Scroaty> sup snitches
#920 [13:48] <jetpackhalo> ok
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#922 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> hi titegtnodI
#923 [13:49] <jetpackhalo> it say the same thing
#924 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> jetpackhalo - Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#925 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. tell me the name of the folder it takes you to
#926 [13:49] <jetpackhalo> what start menu
#927 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> What is the button in the lower left corner?
#928 [13:50] <jetpackhalo> i found it
#929 [13:51] <titegtnodI> ohai tyteen4a03
#930 [13:51] <jetpackhalo> it say no match for your search
#931 [13:52] <jetpackhalo> i meant says
#932 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Press enter right after entering: %userprofile%
#933 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> It should open up a new window
#934 [13:53] <jetpackhalo> wait
#935 [13:53] <jetpackhalo> i think ive found it
#936 [13:54] <jetpackhalo> i takes me to a window that my moms name is on
#937 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> What is that full name?
#938 [13:56] <jetpackhalo> jullie sanchez
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#940 [13:56] <D3luX> Any Support Online? This is regarding an account issue.
#941 [13:57] <Calinou> we don't help with account issues, please see http://help.mojang.com
#942 [13:57] <Calinou> we're not affiliated with mojang
#943 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> D3luX - As we're community-run, we have no access to account information.
#944 [13:57] <jetpackhalo> ok
#945 [13:57] <jetpackhalo> thx anyways
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#947 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> jetpackhalo - Try uninstalling and reinstalling java
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#949 [13:57] <D3luX> This is about im trying to recieve my account username but im not recieving an email and have been waiting and trying for days.
#950 [13:58] <D3luX> I got all information about payment etc.. ready..
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#952 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> We are not affiliated with Mojang. We do not work for them, nor are we paid by them
#953 [13:59] <Calinou> just contact mojang support then (long delays, but it's better than nothing)
#954 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Please find the appropriate article at http://help.mojang.com -- You'll find a link to contact Mojang directly from there
#955 [13:59] <Amelo90> hey... i need help too with payment...
#956 [14:00] <lutzee> D3luX: sounds like you put your email in incorrectly when you made the account, as long as you have your transaction ID you can submit a support request here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new mind you there is currently a 3 month backlog of emails
#957 [14:00] <D3luX> Theres nothing about contacting mojang or anything else.
#958 [14:00] <D3luX> Okay
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#960 [14:02] <Amelo90> I have also tried to buy Minecraft but for me, the ELV not debited and Mojang not respond to my emails ... What should I do?
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#962 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Mojang does not handle payments directly. You'll need to either talk to your bank, or paypal/moneybookers
#963 [14:04] <Amelo90> had so far tried 2x but nothing happens ..
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#965 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Please read: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#966 [14:05] <Amelo90> ahh okay only moneybookers and paypal?
#967 [14:05] <Amelo90> sorry but i come from germany and i dont understand all
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#969 [14:06] <razyrex> hi when i try to playmy minecraft open in my browser i get an error saying classnotfoundexception net.minecraft. launcher can anyone please help cheers crazyrex
#970 [14:06] <dixiemaxi> is any mojang staff on
#971 [14:06] <dixiemaxi> i need help
#972 [14:06] <dixiemaxi> asap
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#974 [14:08] <lutzee> ._.
#975 [14:08] <lutzee> razyrex: try the launcher
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#977 [14:09] <lutzee> you can get it on http://minecraft.net/download
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#979 [14:09] <razyrex> ok will do thanks
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#988 [14:21] <razyrex> thanks very much lutzee for your help working again now cheers crazyrex =D
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#991 [14:22] <Sophia> My PC has an Intel Celeron (2.93GHz) CPU, 1.5GB RAM, Windows XP Home Ed. , and an Nvidia GeForce FX 5200, can I run vanilla or tekkit minecraft well?
#992 [14:22] <Sophia> My PC has an Intel Celeron (2.93GHz) CPU, 1.5GB RAM, Windows XP Home Ed. , and an Nvidia GeForce FX 5200, can I run vanilla or tekkit minecraft well?
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#994 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Betting that FX5200 isn't going to run minecraft at all
#995 [14:24] <Sophia> Think a £30 GPU would have advanced opengl?
#996 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Only supports OpenGL 1.5.
#997 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> It's not the price, it's the age of the card.
#998 [14:24] <Sophia> Aye
#999 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> I really want to say that it's just too old to run minecraft at all.
#1000 [14:25] <Sophia> Whats the GPU lacking that Id find in modern GPUs?
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#1002 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Modern GPUs, for minecraft, support the more modern OpenGL standard.
#1003 [14:25] <Sophia> And do you think the CPU is worth keeping?
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#1005 [14:26] <Sophia> Thatll be needed, rendering only block sides I can see helps a lot :L
#1006 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> At this point, if you were thinking of upgrading, there's really nothing worth keeping in that machine. Modern GPUs run on PCI-e. AGP's been out of date since early 2000s.
#1007 [14:26] <Sophia> Aye
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#1009 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> And yes, even though minecraft has block faces only to render, you need to also consider the number of vertices that minecraft renders at any given point.
#1010 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Or even stores in memory.
#1011 [14:28] <lutzee> You could be rendering over 10000 different faces at any one time
#1012 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Even though you don't see it, minecraft does store a radius of 9-10 chunks worth of cubes at any given time around the player.
#1013 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> A chunk is 16x16x256 cubes.
#1014 [14:29] <Sophia> Aye
#1015 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Back in alpha, you needed to have a GPU that supported a minimun of OpenGL 1.3, it moved up to 1.4 in early beta.
#1016 [14:30] <Sophia> Does anyone have a vanilla .minecraft folder for the latest official build? and the .exe
#1017 [14:30] <Sophia> Ill need to DL it using this, the copy it over by USB
#1018 [14:30] <Sophia> Aye
#1019 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> I don't remember what the minimum is now, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was 2.0 at this point
#1020 [14:30] <Sophia> Yeah
#1021 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> We're not allowed to share the .minecraft folder, it violates the terms of service set by Mojang.
#1022 [14:33] <Sophia> Even if I have an account? o.o
#1023 [14:33] <Sophia> CaptainMag paid
#1024 [14:33] <Sophia> !paid CaptainMag
#1025 [14:33] <Sophia> :x
#1026 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Sorry.
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#1028 [14:33] <sam12> hello cane u help me
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#1030 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> sam12 - With?
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#1032 [14:34] <sam12> my minecraft says out of memory
#1033 [14:34] <sam12> why
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#1036 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you running, and how much RAM do you have on the computer?
#1037 [14:35] <Sophia> WinXP home edition, 1.5GB RAM I think
#1038 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, that was directed to sam12.
#1039 [14:36] <Sophia> DXDiag sbows "memory: 1534 MB RAM"
#1040 [14:36] <Sophia> woos
#1041 [14:36] <sam12> i have windows vista laptop and i got 2.00gb
#1042 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Sophia - You can definitely try, but I don't believe minecraft will run on that computer.
#1043 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> sam12 - Running 32 bit Windows Vista? Try turning down some of the graphics options in minecraft. It's likely pulling too much RAM from your system.'
#1044 [14:37] <sam12> i did that
#1045 [14:38] <sam12> ok let me say somthing becase i dont gwt it
#1046 [14:39] <sam12> when my brother gets have a multiplayer game running i got play on that and it wont say out of memory
#1047 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> Because the server is computing most of the work. Multiplayer is less intensive on the client.
#1048 [14:39] <sam12> like a minecraft adventure map
#1049 [14:40] <sam12> and if i run it on my account it says out of memory
#1050 [14:41] <sam12> and when he runs it and i join hem it dont say it
#1051 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> World generation is done on the server, instead of the client. Chunk loading and unloading is done on the server, instead of the client. With single player, all this is done on your computer
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#1053 [14:41] <sam12> ok
#1054 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> It's more processor intensive if you run it in single player than multiplayer, hence why you get the out of memory errors
#1055 [14:41] <sam12> so
#1056 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> If turning down some of the options won't work, you may need to look into turning down all the graphics options, turn render distance down to tiny, turn graphics quality from fancy to fast, etc.
#1057 [14:42] <ender_Apple> i cant play the game because of bad video card driver how to fix it i already updated them
#1058 [14:43] <sam12> ok
#1059 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> sam12 - Other than that, there's not much else you can do, aside from closing any programs that are not necessary.
#1060 [14:43] <Morrolan> How did you go about updating them, ender_Apple?
#1061 [14:43] <sam12> i did that
#1062 [14:43] <ender_Apple> just go to the nvidia site
#1063 [14:43] <sam12> i have gamebooster and it still says it
#1064 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> sam12 - Beyond that, you'll want to look into either upgrading your computer, or look into purchasing another system.
#1065 [14:43] <ender_Apple> it worked before
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#1067 [14:44] <sam12> ok ty gryvulpin for helping me
#1068 [14:44] <ender_Apple> wel il keep trying thanks for helping me
#1069 [14:44] <ender_Apple> wel il keep trying thanks for helping me
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#1072 [14:45] <Morrolan> And I just wanted to ask him whether it's a notebook with Nvidia's optimus thingy.
#1073 [14:45] <Morrolan> Alas.
#1074 [14:45] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1074 [14:46] <Guest26620> !Ping
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#1076 [14:49] <phantom290> hey i need some help with my minecraft
#1077 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> How can we help?
#1078 [14:49] <phantom290> i cant get it to start fully, i try to join my single player game or multiplayer and i get a black screen my comp. is running windows vista 32 bit
#1079 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Tried a force update through the options menu of the launcher?
#1080 [14:50] <phantom290> i have tryed re installing it and it freezes at a percent and does not load
#1081 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Ah. Do you perhaps run AVG as an antivirus?
#1082 [14:51] <phantom290> yes...
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#1084 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> AVG's been known to frequently tag one of minecraft's files as a false positive. You'll need to disable AVG's linkscanner module for minecraft to download it properly. Please look for the linkscanner module in AVG's options and uncheck it
#1085 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Then download minecraft again
#1086 [14:52] <Compodulator> how many rows of bookshelves does an enchantment table need? i keep forgetting... >.<
#1087 [14:53] <Morrolan> None, three obsidian, two diamonds, one book.
#1088 [14:53] <Compodulator> no, i mean, surrounding it
#1089 [14:53] <Compodulator> the thing you do to increase efficiency
#1090 [14:54] <Morrolan> Ah, 15 bookshelves, if my memory serves me right.
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#1092 [14:54] <Sophia> minecraft wiki -> enchanting should help for bookshelf placement
#1093 [14:54] <lutzee> Compodulator: make a 5x5 walls of bookshelves
#1094 [14:54] <Compodulator> yes, thank you, but the height >.<
#1095 [14:54] <lutzee> in 1.3 you only need 15
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#1097 [14:54] <Compodulator> i'm asking for the height
#1098 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bookshelves
#1099 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> "To get the highest boost, you need 15 bookshelves, which means 45 books and 90 planks, or 135 paper, 45 leather and 22.5 logs."
#1100 [14:55] <cythion> Ive lost my house how do i find it?
#1101 [14:55] <Sophia> comopod: make 3long, 2high walls surrounding the table, with a 1block path around the whole table
#1102 [14:55] <Sophia> knock out a 2x1 hole, thats the door
#1103 [14:55] <phantom290> this sucks >.>
#1104 [14:55] <lutzee> cythion: if you had a bed there you could try getting the resources for a compass
#1105 [14:55] <Sophia> 22 bookshef in that design
#1106 [14:55] <lutzee> That will point to your bed
#1107 [14:55] <cythion> does a ompas lead you back?
#1108 [14:56] <cythion> does it work in creative mode?
#1109 [14:56] <lutzee> cythion: yes it will lead to the last bed you slept in
#1110 [14:56] <phantom290> can anyone send me their minecraft folder that has a 32 bit comp...
#1111 [14:56] <cythion> what if you dont have a bed therE?
#1112 [14:56] <lutzee> cythion: then it's a little trickier
#1113 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> phantom290 - Due to Mojang's terms of service, that is not something we can do
#1114 [14:56] <phantom290> ahh i see
#1115 [14:56] <phantom290> no problem
#1116 [14:57] <phantom290> i just want to be able to play minecraft lol
#1117 [14:57] <cythion> ive gone through like 30 nether portals trying to find it because theres a nether portal right by my house
#1118 [14:57] <phantom290> i disabled my avg and minecraft froze at 21% again
#1119 [14:57] <lutzee> cythion: generally the first player spawn is within 300 blocks of the coordinates 0,0
#1120 [14:58] <Compodulator> there we go, thank you
#1121 [14:58] <lutzee> If you build your house right near spawn you could head towards those coordinates
#1122 [14:58] <cythion> that doesnt help because my house is very far from 0,0
#1123 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> phantom290 - Disable the linkscanner module. Simply disabling avg won't work
#1124 [14:58] <phantom290> it is disabled
#1125 [14:58] <phantom290> both
#1126 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> phantom290 - Then try a force update
#1127 [14:58] <lutzee> cythion: hmm then you might have to open the save up in a program like mcedit and have a look round using that
#1128 [14:59] <phantom290> when i dont click update it says done loading but still has the loading bar so i cant force update it
#1129 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> phantom290 - Could you try uninstalling AVG?
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#1131 [15:00] <phantom290> i dont have any of my avg stuff to reinstall the version i have
#1132 [15:00] <phantom290> never had an issue like this b4 im so frustrated >.<
#1133 [15:01] <ThomQ> Hi All!
#1134 [15:01] <ThomQ> Fresh MC n00b here, just installed the demo
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#1136 [15:01] <Compodulator> welcome to the family :P
#1137 [15:01] <ThomQ> :D
#1138 [15:01] <Compodulator> wait, there's a demo?
#1139 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#1140 [15:01] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#1141 [15:02] <Compodulator> i never knew there's a demo...
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#1143 [15:02] <Compodulator> i just stole the game so i get a sortof... full-er demo...
#1144 [15:02] <cythion> how do i get help from mojang?
#1145 [15:02] <ThomQ> Ive played once before on a friends xbox for about 5 minutes, but then I saw PeanutButterGamer & JonTrons epic adventure, so I was in
#1146 [15:02] <Compodulator> and then i got hooked. lol
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#1148 [15:03] <Compodulator> before anyone says anything, i bought it >.>
#1149 [15:03] * GreyVulpine coughs lightly
#1149 [15:03] <Compodulator> back in the days of notch, i bought it >.>
#1150 [15:03] <lutzee> Compodulator: it came out with 1.3
#1151 [15:03] <phantom290> omg >.<
#1152 [15:03] <Compodulator> yeah, i know, mcnostalgia messed up up jar so it doesn't ask for an update
#1153 [15:03] <ThomQ> But I was wondering, only thing I saw Tutorial-wise was "press E for inventory" and then Good Luck
#1154 [15:04] <Compodulator> i don't want an update either until IC BC RP and thaumcraft are all 1.3 friendly
#1155 [15:04] <phantom290> punches his computer. "work damn yew, WORK"
#1156 [15:04] <Compodulator> LOL
#1157 [15:04] <ThomQ> Did I miss it or something? Or does the game just set you free?>
#1158 [15:04] <Compodulator> did you figure out movement, tom?
#1159 [15:04] <lutzee> cythion: mojang does not have the time to support people who have lost their houses, it's not a good use of their time
#1160 [15:04] <Morrolan> ThomQ - There's these achievements which are _supposed_ to kind of guide you a bit, but there isn't much of a tutorial.
#1161 [15:05] <cythion> my house isnt just a normal house i have days into it
#1162 [15:05] <Compodulator> cythion: i lost a couple month old save, allright?
#1163 [15:05] <ThomQ> Morrolan: Ok, thanks :)
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#1165 [15:06] <Morrolan> cythion - Use a map viewer, and make it render blocks placed by you only.
#1166 [15:06] <Compodulator> chill down and start over
#1167 [15:06] <Morrolan> Cobblestone is a good candidate.
#1168 [15:06] <ThomQ> My "house are 4 walls 2 blocks high. I do know there are zombies coming at night, right? So now i'm just cowarding inside, waiting for the sunrise
#1169 [15:06] <Compodulator> oh... i'm in minecrafthelp...
#1170 [15:06] <Morrolan> ThomQ - Heh, as long as there's no holes in the wall it'll be fine. ^^
#1171 [15:06] <Compodulator> i was about to offer you a tour of my world, tom xD
#1172 [15:07] <Compodulator> but since you're a newbie you don't even have mods yet
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#1174 [15:07] <cythion> my house isnt cobblestone its nether brick
#1175 [15:07] <Morrolan> I don't have mods either, since I'm playing SMP. D:
#1176 [15:07] <ThomQ> yeah exactly, plus I don't think i can even join other servers without a premium account, right?
#1177 [15:07] <Compodulator> oh right
#1178 [15:07] <Compodulator> there's that....
#1179 [15:07] <Morrolan> cythion - Well, then make it render netherbrick, even better. <.<
#1180 [15:08] <Compodulator> well you can, but you'll be called player, unless it's been changed
#1181 [15:08] <ThomQ> :P I hear the zombies outside my walls. Loving it..
#1182 [15:08] <Compodulator> first night is always terrifying, eh?
#1183 [15:08] <Compodulator> still remember my first night
#1184 [15:08] <Compodulator> cowering in my little dirt hut like a caveman
#1185 [15:08] <cythion> were do i get a map viewer?
#1186 [15:08] <ThomQ> Another question: The letsplay I saw was a party of 7 guys playing "hardcore mode", what meant if they died, they died. Is that also an option in the game, or was that just something they decided on?
#1187 [15:09] <Compodulator> hardcore mode is if you die you lose your world
#1188 [15:09] <Compodulator> not too bad at start...
#1189 [15:09] <ThomQ> haha yeah, it scares the shit out of me
#1190 [15:09] <Morrolan> ThomQ - You can enable it when you create a world.
#1191 [15:09] <ThomQ> Ahh cool, so harcdcore mode is really incorperated
#1192 [15:09] <Morrolan> Yea, since a few updates it is. :)
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#1194 [15:09] <Compodulator> i want to figure out how to build a RP TBM and THEN do a hardcore mode RP
#1195 [15:09] <Compodulator> er
#1196 [15:09] <Compodulator> LP
#1197 [15:10] <ThomQ> AAahh.. I died :( A spider climbed over the wall
#1198 [15:10] <Compodulator> that sucks
#1199 [15:10] <ThomQ> its been years since I last screamed like a little girl
#1200 [15:10] <Compodulator> ROFL
#1201 [15:10] <Compodulator> i still scream when creepers show up
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#1203 [15:11] <phantom290> okay so now everything is updated but now i have no sound to the game
#1204 [15:12] <ThomQ> Ok cool, I'm buying this
#1205 [15:12] <Compodulator> have you met creepers yet, thom?
#1206 [15:12] <Compodulator> i mean in person
#1207 [15:12] <ThomQ> I respawned somewhere with lots of evil looking guys. Some had bow & arrow, it lasted about 3 seconds
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#1209 [15:13] <Morrolan> ThomQ - How did you stumble across Minecraft's IRC community that fast, actually?
#1210 [15:13] <cd> hello
#1211 [15:13] <cd> how can i report a cracked server?
#1212 [15:13] <Morrolan> You can't.
#1213 [15:13] <cd> why?
#1214 [15:13] <Morrolan> Mojang doesn't control servers in any way.
#1215 [15:13] <Compodulator> last time i checked, a post about #minecrafthelp was one of the first results on google
#1216 [15:13] <ThomQ> Morrolan: I use IRC for when I'm developping or modelling to ask questions as well. I find IRC far better then forums
#1217 [15:13] <Morrolan> Compodulator - Oh, impressive.
#1218 [15:13] <Compodulator> i mean like, a random post
#1219 [15:14] <cd> is this real people?
#1220 [15:14] <Morrolan> Oh, I, too, like it, but it's not usually the first place people stumble across. :)
#1221 [15:14] <Compodulator> no, dude, we're all bots.
#1222 [15:14] <cd> oh
#1223 [15:14] <cd> can i report acracked server?
#1224 [15:14] <Compodulator> Morrolan: 100110011110101010001
#1225 [15:14] <Morrolan> Yes, now you can, cd, it just changed!
#1226 [15:14] <Morrolan> No, cd, you still can not.
#1227 [15:14] <cd> why not?
#1228 [15:14] <ThomQ> My journey: minecraft.net -> community - Minecraft Forums -> IRC :P
#1229 [15:14] * Compodulator facepalms
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#1230 [15:15] <Morrolan> Because Mojang doesn't control servers, cd.
#1231 [15:15] <cd> what is all this?
#1232 [15:15] <cd> yes they do
#1233 [15:15] <Compodulator> what's your time zone, thom?
#1234 [15:15] <cd> who controls the servers then?
#1235 [15:15] <ThomQ> Amsterdam
#1236 [15:15] <Morrolan> The individual server owners.
#1237 [15:15] <ThomQ> GMT -1
#1238 [15:15] <cd> morrolan who controls the servers?
#1239 [15:15] <Compodulator> not too shabby
#1240 [15:15] <Morrolan> The individual server owners.
#1241 [15:15] <Compodulator> SSP gets boring sometimes
#1242 [15:16] <Compodulator> got skype?
#1243 [15:16] <cd> can we somehow sabotage them?
#1244 [15:16] <Morrolan> No.
#1245 [15:16] <Morrolan> That is illegal.
#1246 [15:16] <lutzee> cd: All minecraft servers are hosted by people who put their money towards it, there are no official servers
#1247 [15:16] <Compodulator> cd now that's quite illegal
#1248 [15:16] <cd> no i meant
#1249 [15:16] <Compodulator> would you like to get sued?
#1250 [15:16] <TheNoodle> No.
#1251 [15:16] <cd> like spam chat or something
#1252 [15:16] <lutzee> Mojang has nothing to do with any servers what so ever
#1253 [15:16] <TheNoodle> Whatever you meant.
#1254 [15:16] <Morrolan> cd - That's silly, and useless.
#1255 [15:16] <TheNoodle> No.
#1256 [15:16] <ThomQ> I could run a server / host a game on my own pc as well right?
#1257 [15:16] <Compodulator> cd that's griefing and you'll be banned in about a minute
#1258 [15:16] <cd> but hosting them is illegal
#1259 [15:16] <Morrolan> Nope.
#1260 [15:16] <cd> ok suggest hat i can do?
#1261 [15:16] <cd> what*
#1262 [15:17] <Compodulator> ThomQ: yup
#1263 [15:17] <cd> what can i do then?
#1264 [15:17] <Morrolan> Playing Minecraft without having paid is not fine, but hosting a server, even if you let people with non-premium accounts on, is pretty much fine.
#1265 [15:17] <Compodulator> altough you'll need good internet connection
#1266 [15:17] <leila> Hello. I kinda ran into a snag. I have started an amazon cloud server, copied over the local server instance and started it there. Everything seems ok. Now to catch is that I myself can no longer connect (IOException recieved string length longer than maximum allows). Now the oddest thing is that my friend is able to connect to the server ... any place I should look ?
#1267 [15:17] <TheNoodle> Nothing cd.
#1268 [15:17] <ThomQ> @compodulator: Got no skype, need to hook up mic first. Been a while since I MP'ed on my PC
#1269 [15:17] <cd> so you just sit and let illegal server operate then?
#1270 [15:17] <Compodulator> well prepare for lag then. lol
#1271 [15:17] <Compodulator> cd pretty much
#1272 [15:17] <TheNoodle> Sure do!
#1273 [15:17] <ThomQ> I saw Chat options in the menu, is there ingame voice chat as well?
#1274 [15:17] <cd> its called platiumcraft
#1275 [15:17] <TheNoodle> And there's nothing you can do about it.
#1276 [15:17] <Morrolan> cd - These servers ARE NOT ILLEGAL.
#1277 [15:17] <cd> ye they are
#1278 [15:17] <TheNoodle> No they're not.
#1279 [15:17] <cd> cracked servers are illegal
#1280 [15:17] <Compodulator> ThomQ: not as far as i know...
#1281 [15:18] <Morrolan> They are. not. cracked.
#1282 [15:18] <cd> they let people play online who downloaded the game illegally
#1283 [15:18] <Compodulator> does anyone have kick rights here...?
#1284 [15:18] <TheNoodle> They're using the inbuilt functionality of minecraft servers to not check in with the authentication servers.
#1285 [15:18] <TheNoodle> Compodulator, plenty of people do, this is just amusing.
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#1287 [15:18] <lutzee> cd: No they aren't the default server binary has an option to ignore weather a user is authenticated so you can use it on a LAN when you have no internet connection available
#1288 [15:18] <TheNoodle> dat weather.
#1289 [15:18] <cd> so why bother paying the $17? if you do nothing about it
#1290 [15:18] <cd> rips off the customers
#1291 [15:18] <Compodulator> well it is kinda amusing to imagine him pound on the keyboard
#1292 [15:19] <Morrolan> cd - We're not Mojang. :)
#1293 [15:19] <cd> this a bot?
#1294 [15:19] <TheNoodle> We're #supercoolpeople
#1295 [15:19] <Morrolan> And Mojang, even if they would want to do anything against "cracekd" servers, can't do anything.
#1296 [15:19] <cd> its not a bot
#1297 [15:19] <ThomQ> lol cd, why would you care?
#1298 [15:19] <Compodulator> we're very advanced bots, cd
#1299 [15:19] <cd> ye right
#1300 [15:19] <cd> cant you like sue them or something?
#1301 [15:19] <Morrolan> If anything, then they could _try_ to do something against people downloading their game illegaly, but that is much too much work.
#1302 [15:19] <TheNoodle> They're not doing anything illegal. so no cd.
#1303 [15:19] <cd> its illegal to host them
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#1305 [15:20] <cd> and i know that for a fact
#1306 [15:20] <Morrolan> Look, if you think so, fine, go ahead.
#1307 [15:20] <leila> happens on plain stock minecraft client + server btw
#1308 [15:20] <Morrolan> We told you, it's not, now please, discontinue this.
#1309 [15:20] <lutzee> Also cd Notch has no care weather people actually acquired it illegally or not, he cares that he made something people enjoy
#1310 [15:20] <cd> can i have my $17 refund then?
#1311 [15:20] <Morrolan> We're not Mojang.
#1312 [15:20] <ThomQ> can't wait to play this on Ouya btw
#1313 [15:20] <lutzee> cd No.
#1314 [15:21] <cd> this is not a bot
#1315 [15:21] <TheNoodle> cd, your information is flawed.
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#1317 [15:21] <cd> its real people
#1318 [15:21] <TheNoodle> Now go away.
#1319 [15:21] <Morrolan> Last I checked, I was real, yes.
#1320 [15:21] <cd> shut up
#1321 [15:21] * Morrolan kicked cd from #minecrafthelp (Reason: d :Keep it nie)
#1322 [15:21] <TheNoodle> Morrolan, I'd suggest checking again ;)
#1323 [15:21] <Morrolan> nice, even*
#1324 [15:21] <ThomQ> lol what, Cd is pissed beacause he found out he Could have played minecraft for free?
#1325 [15:21] <Compodulator> pretty much
#1326 [15:21] * lutzee bangs head on wall
#1326 [15:21] <lutzee> Yep i'm real
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#1328 [15:21] <TheNoodle> Regular borg checks should be performed to assure quality control.
#1329 [15:21] <bob> hello
#1330 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1331 [15:21] <Compodulator> i don't mind stealing from large corporations like EA or something
#1332 [15:21] <Morrolan> Meh, more because he found out that the world is a mean place I think.
#1333 [15:21] <lutzee> hello bob
#1334 [15:22] <TheNoodle> Hey cd!
#1335 [15:22] <ThomQ> Noodle: lol
#1336 [15:22] <bob> hey
#1337 [15:22] <bob> sorry for my language
#1338 [15:22] <Compodulator> they swim in money
#1339 [15:22] <TheNoodle> Protip, we can see your ip, there's no point changing your nick.
#1340 [15:22] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1341 [15:22] <Compodulator> but notch is an indie dev so every dollar counts for him
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#1343 [15:22] <bob> wait you can see my ip?
#1344 [15:22] <Compodulator> can't rip off a guy like that
#1345 [15:22] <TheNoodle> Sure can :D
#1346 [15:22] <Grim_Reaper> Yes we can see your ip
#1347 [15:22] <bob> cant you like ddos me or something?
#1348 [15:22] <Morrolan> bob - The internet tends to be like that.
#1349 [15:22] <TheNoodle> Sure can :D
#1350 [15:22] <Grim_Reaper> If we really wanted bob. yes
#1351 [15:22] <Morrolan> IPs are public addresses on the internet.
#1352 [15:22] <bob> but that illegal right?
#1353 [15:22] <TheNoodle> In some places!
#1354 [15:22] <ThomQ> @ comp: exactly. That's why just pay for the games I want the support
#1355 [15:23] * Morrolan slaps TheNoodle
#1355 [15:23] <bob> im so confused
#1356 [15:23] <Compodulator> but like... ripping EA off is fine lol
#1357 [15:23] <Compodulator> cd, welcome to the internet.
#1358 [15:23] <bob> are there bot and people or jsut people
#1359 [15:23] <TheNoodle> Morrolan <3
#1360 [15:23] <Grim_Reaper> Bob ip's are public
#1361 [15:23] <Grim_Reaper> It's not illegal
#1362 [15:23] <ThomQ> anything Not to have to use Origin ;)
#1363 [15:23] <Compodulator> it's a mean and scary people here.
#1364 [15:23] <Grim_Reaper> When you visit a site
#1365 [15:23] <Morrolan> bob - There are bots in here, but none who talk, currently.
#1366 [15:23] <Grim_Reaper> Your ip is logged always
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#1368 [15:23] <Grim_Reaper> When you send an email. Your ip is logged
#1369 [15:23] <bob> disadvantage of ripping of EA is that you have to deal with there law team
#1370 [15:24] <Compodulator> assuming they actually CARE
#1371 [15:24] <Morrolan> Meh, for any game company it's far too much work to do anything against single people who steal their game.
#1372 [15:24] <Compodulator> we're talking about people who wipe their asses with 100USD bills here
#1373 [15:24] <TheNoodle> bob, mind filling out this form please? http://i.imgur.com/sEzYA.jpg
#1374 [15:24] <bob> so what if everyone has that attitude and decides to rip them off?
#1375 [15:24] <Morrolan> It's why they use DRM as a means of protecting themselves.
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#1378 [15:24] <bob> why fill it out?
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#1380 [15:24] <Compodulator> which turned out to be a horrid idea btw
#1381 [15:24] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1382 [15:24] <ThomQ> bob: You wouldn't download a car, right?
#1383 [15:24] <bob> what is it?
#1384 [15:24] <bob> i would if i could
#1385 [15:24] <TheNoodle> It's a form to submit to the cyber police.
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#1387 [15:24] <Morrolan> Compodulator - Can't blame them.
#1388 [15:24] <Compodulator> ThomQ: there is a 678 torrent called car.rar
#1389 [15:24] * B is now known as :Guest43715
#1390 [15:24] <bob> right
#1391 [15:25] <Compodulator> err
#1392 [15:25] <Morrolan> TheNoodle - It's fine, no need to make situation even more tense.
#1393 [15:25] <TheNoodle> Once you've filled it out, forward it to legal@cyberpolice.com
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#1395 [15:25] <bob> i dont like clicking links
#1396 [15:25] <Morrolan> to make the*
#1397 [15:25] <Compodulator> 678TB file called car.rar
#1398 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> bob then we cant get you help
#1399 [15:25] <Compodulator> on thepiratebay. lol
#1400 [15:25] <bob> can you guide me to a website
#1401 [15:25] <ThomQ> where would you like to go?
#1402 [15:25] <Morrolan> bob - Depends on what website you'd need. ;)
#1403 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1404 [15:25] <bob> no to the cyber police one
#1405 [15:25] <bob> instead of clicking link
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#1407 [15:25] <bob> gosh your english is too good stop!
#1408 [15:26] <ThomQ> bob: http://www.equestriadaily.com/ something like this?
#1409 [15:26] <Morrolan> He was, uh, kind of making fun of you there, bob.
#1410 [15:26] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1411 [15:26] <Compodulator> ^
#1412 [15:26] <lutzee> Compodulator: you should run wget *.*"
#1413 [15:26] <bob> stop with the perfect english
#1414 [15:26] <Grim_Reaper> There is no..
#1415 [15:26] <lutzee> much easier :p
#1416 [15:26] <Grim_Reaper> Cyber police
#1417 [15:26] <Compodulator> a what now?
#1418 [15:26] <Grim_Reaper> unless Morrolan counts
#1419 [15:26] <Guest43715> we cannot get our saved worlds to load on our phone download....do you know why?
#1420 [15:26] <Compodulator> lutzee: what's wget?
#1421 [15:26] <lutzee> Compodulator: download the internet \o/
#1422 [15:26] <bob> whyare some names red?
#1423 [15:26] <Compodulator> GOD NO!
#1424 [15:26] <lutzee> Compodulator: its a commandline download thing on linux
#1425 [15:26] <Grim_Reaper> Means they have voice or op
#1426 [15:26] <Morrolan> That is, most likely, your client doing it, when someone mentinos your nickname, bob.
#1427 [15:26] <Morrolan> mentions*
#1428 [15:26] <TheNoodle> You could also go to the IR Cops I guess
#1429 [15:26] <Compodulator> i'm on windows....
#1430 [15:26] <lutzee> bob: because we are saying your name
#1431 [15:26] <bob> im not bob im CD
#1432 [15:26] <Morrolan> Alternatively your client colours ops in red, yea.
#1433 [15:26] <Compodulator> oh... now i see xD
#1434 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> bob your nick is bob right now
#1435 [15:27] <bob> lutzee hey
#1436 [15:27] <Compodulator> not much of a linux person
#1437 [15:27] <bob> ok ill change it brb guys :P
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#1439 [15:27] <Compodulator> i tried to install it but messed so bad i had to use another pc to reformat my hd
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#1441 [15:27] <lutzee> use /nick <newnick>
#1442 [15:27] <lutzee> damn
#1443 [15:27] * Morrolan grins
#1443 [15:27] <Compodulator> so yeah... quite a trauma
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#1445 [15:27] <cd> happy now
#1446 [15:27] <ThomQ> lol, googling cyber police is a blast
#1447 [15:27] <Morrolan> You can save yourself some time by using "/nick nick_goes_here", btw.
#1448 [15:27] <cd> what commands you get with this?
#1449 [15:27] <cd> kick?
#1450 [15:27] <cd> what else?
#1451 [15:28] <Morrolan> With what?
#1452 [15:28] <Morrolan> As a channel operator you can kick, ban and mute, yea.
#1453 [15:28] <cd> ok
#1454 [15:28] <lutzee> On IRC there can be a lot of commands, depends on the client
#1455 [15:28] <Grim_Reaper> cd there is always
#1456 [15:28] * ThomQ gives cd a hearty slap
#1456 [15:28] <cd> you get /kill?
#1457 [15:28] <Grim_Reaper> You could send the cyber police a server wide message though..
#1458 [15:28] <Compodulator> btw, i always wondered...
#1459 [15:28] <Compodulator> what's the benefits of +V?
#1460 [15:28] <cd> or /burn?
#1461 [15:28] <Morrolan> cd - That'd be something for IRC ops. (Server operators of this IRC network)
#1462 [15:28] <cd> anyone here play minecraft
#1463 [15:28] <Grim_Reaper> you can type /server send reports@cybercrimes.com message here
#1464 [15:29] <lutzee> Compodulator: officially you can talk if the channel is muted
#1465 [15:29] <cd> stop taking the piss
#1466 [15:29] <Morrolan> Compodulator - Being able to talk when the channel is set to moderated.
#1467 [15:29] <Morrolan> Compodulator - Most channels use it as some sort of promotion, though.
#1468 [15:29] <TheNoodle> Grim_Reaper, I wish :<
#1469 [15:29] <Grim_Reaper> TheNoodle :p
#1470 [15:29] <Morrolan> Some also use it as an indicator of activity.
#1471 [15:29] <cd> how much you guys get paid for this?
#1472 [15:29] <cd> a hour
#1473 [15:29] <xales> cd: I get paid $180/hour.
#1474 [15:29] <Morrolan> cd - Hah, I wish we were.
#1475 [15:29] <ThomQ> lol
#1476 [15:29] <Compodulator> 210USD/hour
#1477 [15:29] <xales> Morrolan is just a non-com.
#1478 [15:29] <cd> no you dont
#1479 [15:29] <Compodulator> i'm xales's manager
#1480 [15:29] <Morrolan> For being in here we don't get a single dime.
#1481 [15:29] * xales is an officer
#1481 [15:30] <TheNoodle> The senior techs like xales are on $180/hr USD.
#1482 [15:30] * Morrolan bites xales
#1482 [15:30] * Grim_Reaper hugs xales
#1482 [15:30] * lutzee climes on xales' head
#1482 [15:30] <TheNoodle> There's interns like Morrolan that volunteer their time as well.
#1483 [15:30] <Compodulator> HEY!
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#1485 [15:30] <Compodulator> you do that on your break!
#1486 [15:30] * Morrolan sobs
#1486 [15:30] <cd> climbes*
#1487 [15:30] <Morrolan> Don't tell everyone. :(
#1488 [15:30] * Grim_Reaper pays Morrolan in hugs
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#1489 [15:30] <Compodulator> now get back to work!
#1490 [15:30] <Compodulator> i'm not paying you to climb on each other's heads!
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#1492 [15:31] <Compodulator> this is a respected corporation!
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#1494 [15:31] <Morrolan> I do a lot for hugs, that I can assure you, but I would never go into support for a payment of a few hugs. ;)
#1495 [15:31] * lutzee climbs on Compodulator's head instead
#1495 [15:31] <Morrolan> That is, unless I'd really need the money, I'd never work support.
#1496 [15:31] <cd> whats mojangs phone number?
#1497 [15:31] <lutzee> cd there is none
#1498 [15:31] * Compodulator puts lutzee in a pot
#1498 [15:31] <Morrolan> Uh, there's no support phone number.
#1499 [15:31] <Morrolan> But their office has one, obviously. Google will help.
#1500 [15:31] <Morrolan> I hope you like big telephone bills, though.
#1501 [15:32] <cd> well i eventually got the senior executive of minesoft personal phone number and email adress
#1502 [15:32] <cdt35> Is minecraft.net down? It hasn't been loading for me.
#1503 [15:32] <cd> so theree must be on for minecraft
#1504 [15:32] <cd> one*
#1505 [15:32] <ThomQ> cdt: i had some problems as well while back
#1506 [15:32] <cd> whats nodus?
#1507 [15:32] <Morrolan> "Griefing" client.
#1508 [15:32] <lutzee> cdt35: you can see the status of the minecraft sites here http://help.mojang.com/
#1509 [15:32] <TheNoodle> Pretty sure there's +61449068763
#1510 [15:32] <Morrolan> I like to think of it as a modified client with some extra functionality. ;)
#1511 [15:32] <TheNoodle> You need the country code, because it's not in the US.
#1512 [15:33] <cd> can i ask you some questions?
#1513 [15:33] <Morrolan> You could.
#1514 [15:33] <Morrolan> No guarantee on getting an answer.
#1515 [15:33] <cd> ok
#1516 [15:33] <cd> ok so your driving a bus and 4 people get on
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#1518 [15:33] <Grim_Reaper> o_O?
#1519 [15:33] <cd> at the next stop 2 people get off and 3 people get on
#1520 [15:34] * lutzee is 18 and doesn't qualify for a bus license
#1520 [15:34] <cd> then at the last stop 10 get on and 6 get off
#1521 [15:34] <cd> whos driving the bus?
#1522 [15:34] <lutzee> Santa
#1523 [15:34] <cd> nope
#1524 [15:34] <Morrolan> Yea, that one doesn't work too well in text-based chat. :D
#1525 [15:34] <cd> yup i kinda guessed that
#1526 [15:34] <cd> lol
#1527 [15:35] <lutzee> Oi i'm santa what you trying to say?
#1528 [15:35] <cd> santa not real -_-
#1529 [15:35] <TheNoodle> WHAT
#1530 [15:35] <cd> oops
#1531 [15:35] <Grim_Reaper> Santa is totally real!
#1532 [15:35] <Morrolan> Well, maybe lutzee's parents called him "Santa" :D
#1533 [15:35] <Grim_Reaper> Dont be lying!
#1534 [15:35] <lutzee> I'm here! i'm hurt!
#1535 [15:35] <lutzee> :(
#1536 [15:35] <lutzee> :(
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#1538 [15:36] <cd> i want a coffee break
#1539 [15:36] <Morrolan> Well, I'll be off, seven hours until I have to get up again.
#1540 [15:36] <Morrolan> G'night ;)
#1541 [15:36] <cd> nooo
#1542 [15:36] <cd> we need coffee
#1543 [15:36] <lutzee> night o/
#1544 [15:36] <cd> noooo
#1545 [15:36] <TheNoodle> Night Morrolan, see you in the office tomorrow ^_^
#1546 [15:36] <cd> coffeeeee
#1547 [15:36] <Morrolan> No, that I'll need in a few hours, cd, but not now ;)
#1548 [15:36] <Morrolan> TheNoodle - Hah.
#1549 [15:36] <TheNoodle> As an intern, you're on the coffee run for the week.
#1550 [15:36] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan
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#1551 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> Take care
#1552 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> Oh by the way mollstam
#1553 [15:36] <cd> how you got *hugs
#1554 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan *
#1555 [15:37] <cd> *hugs gandelf
#1556 [15:37] <Grim_Reaper> Dont forget to check those papers I left on your desk
#1557 [15:37] <cd> muhahahaah
#1558 [15:37] <cd> how do i change my nick?
#1559 [15:37] <Grim_Reaper> /nick namehere
#1560 [15:37] * cd is now known as :Morro1an
#1561 [15:37] <Morro1an> yes
#1562 [15:37] <Morro1an> muahahaha
#1563 [15:38] <Morro1an> lols
#1564 [15:38] <Morro1an> mad?
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#1567 [15:38] <Grim_Reaper> Please dont impersonate people
#1568 [15:38] <Morro1an> xenon knight
#1569 [15:38] <Morro1an> fine
#1570 [15:38] * xales kicked Morro1an from #minecrafthelp (Reason: orro1an :Don't do that. D:)
#1571 [15:38] <Compodulator> well if you're going to impersonate someone, at least to a better job
#1572 [15:39] <ThomQ> Pfff, i have to wait 30 minutes before my credit card gets here (its not on me)
#1573 [15:39] <ThomQ> 21 minutes by now.. Can't wait :P
#1574 [15:39] <Compodulator> lawls
#1575 [15:39] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1576 [15:40] <ThomQ> What would be the coolest thing to do / server to join when I'm upgraded to premium?
#1577 [15:40] <Compodulator> you have literally thousands of options
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#1579 [15:40] <Compodulator> once i figure out how to set up mods on my own server, or someone guides me through it, i'll start a sortof random letsplay with people from here xD
#1580 [15:40] <ThomQ> Ill just watch a lets play in the meanwhile :P
#1581 [15:41] <ThomQ> haha ok cool
#1582 [15:41] <Compodulator> which is why i was asking for your skype
#1583 [15:41] <Compodulator> i think it'd be amusing to have a sortof pro and a newbie do a letsplay :P
#1584 [15:41] <ThomQ> I love the one with JonTron & PBG.. They also got a n00b on their team, very funny
#1585 [15:41] <Compodulator> like an honest newbie
#1586 [15:42] <Compodulator> altough, i'm getting my TB drive tomorrow =[
#1587 [15:42] <Compodulator> so it'll have to wait till then
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#1590 [15:44] * lutzee took ownership of half his new PC today
#1590 [15:45] <lutzee> yey for my nice new SSD \o/
#1591 [15:45] <ThomQ> yeah, I need SSD's as well
#1592 [15:45] <ThomQ> yeah, I need SSD's as well
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#1594 [15:45] <ThomQ> the big bottleneck on my rig
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#1596 [15:45] <lutzee> I think a 5 year warrenty wll last long enough for me to replace it :3
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#1599 [15:47] <ThomQ> hehe true.. Plus, by then a TB is going to be Very little
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#1601 [15:48] <ThomQ> A few days back, I fished some dusty old 250gig disks out of my attic
#1602 [15:48] <ThomQ> they were the Shit when they first came out :P
#1603 [15:48] <TheNoodle> I like the capitalisation
#1604 [15:49] <lutzee> only 250?
#1605 [15:49] <lutzee> I have 4.6gb drives on my desk
#1606 [15:49] <lutzee> and 2 pentium 2 CPU's
#1607 [15:49] <ThomQ> hehehe
#1608 [15:50] <lutzee> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/random/p2.jpg
#1609 [15:51] <ThomQ> not even covered in dust!
#1610 [15:51] <FLHerne> ThomQ: My laptop still has a 1.4GB drive :P
#1611 [15:54] <ThomQ> hehe.. This is not my photo, but I do actually got this in a closet: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/04/28/floppy-disks.jpg
#1612 [15:54] <lutzee> ThomQ: i only just removed them from an old server :p
#1613 [15:54] <lutzee> ThomQ: i have a tape reader from the server too
#1614 [15:54] <ThomQ> hahaha
#1615 [15:55] <lutzee> tapes used to have a lot more storage than HDD's in those days
#1616 [15:55] <ThomQ> those things made So much noise
#1617 [15:55] <lutzee> whn you have a server full of fans, that really isn't an issue :
#1618 [15:55] <lutzee> :p
#1619 [15:56] <ThomQ> hehe
#1620 [15:57] <ThomQ> ok 5 minutes till creditcard.. How long will it take to be upgraded to premium?
#1621 [15:58] <lutzee> ThomQ: if the money transfers quickly then it might be almost immediately, but if not it could take 24 hours
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#1623 [15:58] <ThomQ> ill light on up for the Visa god
#1624 [15:59] <Goonie73> Is there any way that a controller can be used to play this game on PC?
#1625 [16:00] <lutzee> Goonie73: i have heard of people formatting it so controllers can be used, but it might require a 3rd party program and we can't support you doing this
#1626 [16:00] <ThomQ> Goonie: Not from the normal settings no, since you can't change the mouse movement
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#1628 [16:01] <Goonie73> Okay, thanks.
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#1630 [16:07] <ECE> i have paid for minecraft, but it wont let me on. when i try to download, it brings up another page for me to log in on and when i do it tells me that "user not premium"
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#1636 [16:11] <sparrow19905> it is saying my email and password is in correct but i just changed it and it wont let me on
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#1640 [16:14] <leila> Hello. Does anyone have any clue what I can do to resolve a java.io.IOException: Received string length longer than maximum allowed (65 > 64) on the server when a client connects ?
#1641 [16:15] <leila> Happens on both vanilla and the modded server, and only for linux clients
#1642 [16:16] <xales> leila: Are the server and client running the same version?
#1643 [16:16] <xales> sparrow19905: It wouldn't say that unless they actually were incorrect.
#1644 [16:16] <leila> xales: if by version you mean minecraft, yes both are 1.2.5
#1645 [16:16] <leila> tried switching vms as well, no result.
#1646 [16:17] <xales> Is the client able to connect to other servers?
#1647 [16:17] <leila> I am realy at my wits end on this one.
#1648 [16:17] <leila> yes the server on localhost is just fine
#1649 [16:18] <leila> and if you know a public server i can try to connect to that as well.
#1650 [16:18] <lutzee> s.nerd.nu
#1651 [16:18] <xales> lutzee: Are they still on 1.2.5?
#1652 [16:18] <lutzee> er
#1653 [16:18] <lutzee> infact
#1654 [16:19] <lutzee> unlikely
#1655 [16:19] <leila> not logging in at least
#1656 [16:19] <lutzee> I don't know any 1.2.5 vanilla servers
#1657 [16:19] <lutzee> the only ones that will be 1.2.5 atm are modded probably
#1658 [16:19] <leila> ah yes, also tried multimc and a manually modded client
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#1661 [16:20] <xales> leila: Is there a stack trace that goes with the error?
#1662 [16:20] <leila> the thing I dont understand is that I just copied the local server over to the cloud instance. Just a sec, let me pastebin that
#1663 [16:21] <leila> http://pastebin.com/5sNnMgPv stacktrace on the server, client just gets the standard disconnect
#1664 [16:21] <xales> lutzee: Do you remember the mapping bot commands? >_>
#1665 [16:22] <lutzee> Sorry? >.> you mean the paste?
#1666 [16:22] <lutzee> if so then that is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
#1667 [16:23] <xales> leila: Did you also copy the map?
#1668 [16:24] <leila> xales: yes, otherwise the other client would not state everything looked ok ?
#1669 [16:24] <xales> leila: Try deleting the map on the server and letting it regenerate.
#1670 [16:24] <leila> just a tar -cf server.tar server_dir
#1671 [16:24] <leila> could try
#1672 [16:24] <xales> Also, why are you running 1.2.5? Have you tried with 1.3?
#1673 [16:24] <leila> but it did give met the same on a vanilla (empty) server
#1674 [16:25] <leila> well, mostly because of the 41 mods
#1675 [16:25] * tips48|away is now known as :tips48
#1676 [16:25] <lutzee> yeah it could be the mods breaking stuff
#1677 [16:25] <lutzee> load up an unmodded server jar and try again
#1678 [16:26] <xales> (with a new world too)
#1679 [16:27] <leila> vanilla server, removed the map, same error
#1680 [16:27] <leila> ec2-54-247-145-252.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com is the link to said server. Feel free to connect to it
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#1682 [16:27] <leila> 1.2.5 of course... could try a 1.3
#1683 [16:28] <xales> I'd say try with 1.3, just to see if that eliminates the issue.
#1684 [16:28] <xales> Or, possibly gets a better or different error.
#1685 [16:28] <leila> meh, minecraft.org is overloaded
#1686 [16:28] <leila> .net*
#1687 [16:28] <lutzee> leila: you might be better also telling people to connect to just the ip ( 54.247.145.252 ) that's a very long address to put into minecraft :p
#1688 [16:29] <lutzee> and yes minecraft.net does seem to have a bit of a load on it atm
#1689 [16:30] <leila> lutzee: it changes every reboot ;)
#1690 [16:31] <lutzee> leila: but if your running on the cloud those servers are always online >.>
#1691 [16:31] <lutzee> and also the IP is writen in that hostmask anyway
#1692 [16:31] <lutzee> so the hostmask probably changes :p
#1693 [16:33] <leila> lutzee: well that would be if I run it 24/7
#1694 [16:33] <lutzee> There is no reason not to :)
#1695 [16:34] <xales> leila: could also get an "elastic IP" or whatever :p
#1696 [16:35] <leila> costs more, but yes I could
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#1698 [16:35] * lutzee is quite envious that you can afford a cloud server
#1698 [16:35] <leila> basically the only reason I do this is because my upload sucks and I can barely handle 1 client
#1699 [16:35] <leila> i'll be damned...
#1700 [16:36] <leila> on 1.3 I can connect
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#1702 [16:36] <xales> leila: Actually, from what I understand, it's only billed when it's not in use.
#1703 [16:37] <leila> xales: yes, and not in use means "off"
#1704 [16:37] <xales> So don't turn it off then? ._.
#1705 [16:37] <leila> I have the pay per hour version at the moment, thus not turning it off would increase the bill
#1706 [16:38] <leila> anyway... why does 1.3 work and 1.2.5 not
#1707 [16:38] <xales> Is not a server supposed to...? Whatever. Anyway, because 1.3 is newer and fixes a number of issues.
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#1709 [16:39] <lutzee> Including that server auth changed i believe but not totally sure :p
#1710 [16:39] <leila> xales: as said, only reason is that I need more upload for when the 4 of us play it
#1711 [16:39] <leila> was there no option to turn that off?
#1712 [16:39] <leila> the re-auth on server
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#1714 [16:40] <lutzee> leila: was it cheaper to get a cloud server instead of paying a well known host by the way? and you can but then you allow players who haven't got a paid account onto your server
#1715 [16:41] <leila> lutzee: are there well known hosts that allow me to install custom crap on the instance?
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#1717 [16:41] <leila> and, its will be private anyhow, so I fw block things
#1718 [16:41] <leila> and, unfortunately I am on the fastest thing that my isp can get me on this address
#1719 [16:42] <george> Anyone else using a mac and not able to play online?
#1720 [16:42] <lutzee> Er well if you can get FTP access to the server then of course you can use your own jar :) and even better would be SSH access
#1721 [16:43] <leila> lutzee: ah, you meant as regular hosting party
#1722 [16:43] <leila> but actually for the infrequent use the pay / hour gets it done
#1723 [16:44] <xales> george: What, specifically, is the issue you are experiencing?
#1724 [16:45] <george> Whenever i select multiplayer it "scanning for LAN worlds" pops up but it doesnt connect to anything
#1725 [16:45] <leila> lutzee: mind telling me the config option for the offline mode ?
#1726 [16:46] <lutzee> anyway leila as you now know you can actually connect to your server we can't really support modded servers really
#1727 [16:46] <lutzee> as for that it's in the server.properties file
#1728 [16:46] <lutzee> and you need to change online-mode to false
#1729 [16:46] <xales> george: You have to add a server, or click "direct connect" and enter an address, to connect to a server.
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#1731 [16:46] <leila> lutzee: thanks. This would be the last variable to try
#1732 [16:47] <lutzee> leila: the other thing you can do to easily manage your server is to actiave the whitelist and only add names you trust
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#1734 [16:47] <george> oh for real, ha okay thank you. where can i find server addresses?
#1735 [16:48] <lutzee> ?? smp/servers
#1736 [16:48] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1737 [16:48] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#1738 [16:48] <leila> lutzee: and firewall rules to only allow trusted ips and such
#1739 [16:48] <leila> still no show
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#1741 [16:48] <lutzee> leila: whitelist is easier to setup and manage, incase your friends IP's happen to change :)
#1742 [16:49] <leila> lutzee: of course, but I like things secure
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#1746 [16:52] <george> Just wondering though, what does scanning for lan worlds mean exactly?
#1747 [16:53] <leila> oh well... I give up: Conclusion, there is some very very weird bug somewhere (most likely java) that will disallow certain clients to connect to a server
#1748 [16:53] <leila> george: autodiscovery of lan games
#1749 [16:53] <lutzee> george: it means that its scanning on your local network (anything behind your router) for any computers running minecraft single player with their worlds opened to LAN
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#1751 [16:54] <george> ohhh okay it all makes sense now, im new to this still so i'm getting used to it
#1752 [16:54] <leila> Anyway, many thanks for trying to sort this all out.
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#1758 [17:00] <zebra77788> hi i need help
#1759 [17:00] <zebra77788> i started playing minecraft and
#1760 [17:00] <zebra77788> i cant place anything
#1761 [17:00] <zebra77788> anywhere
#1762 [17:01] <zebra77788> i tried to put glass on a wall and it wouldnt work no matter what
#1763 [17:01] <zebra77788> and i tried to put a torch on a wall and that would not work either
#1764 [17:01] <zebra77788> anything that u can help me with'
#1765 [17:01] <Magiobiwan> zebra77788, is it set to Adventure game mode?
#1766 [17:01] <zebra77788> no its on creative mode on my mac
#1767 [17:02] <leila> sounds like what happens when the client lost connection with the server.
#1768 [17:02] <zebra77788> help??
#1769 [17:02] <leila> Good night all
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#1771 [17:03] <Magiobiwan> zebra77788, singleplayer or multiplayer?
#1772 [17:03] <zebra77788> magiobiwan
#1773 [17:03] <zebra77788> single
#1774 [17:03] <zebra77788> hello
#1775 [17:03] <lutzee> did you enable cheats on the world?
#1776 [17:04] * tips48 is now known as :tips48|away
#1777 [17:04] <zebra77788> no
#1778 [17:04] <Magiobiwan> zebra77788, I'm also helping someone else in a different channel
#1779 [17:04] <zebra77788> ok
#1780 [17:04] <zebra77788> no cheats either
#1781 [17:04] <lutzee> Okay the other thing is i've heard that macs sometimes have mouse problems
#1782 [17:04] <lutzee> are you using a standard 2/3 button mouse?
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#1784 [17:05] <zebra77788> im using a pad mouse that is in the latop
#1785 [17:05] <lutzee> What i expected :/ do you have a USB mouse on hand at all?
#1786 [17:05] <zebra77788> yeah but i tried that
#1787 [17:05] <zebra77788> it didnt help
#1788 [17:05] <lutzee> :/
#1789 [17:06] <lutzee> you can break blocks fine right?
#1790 [17:06] <zebra77788> yeah with attack
#1791 [17:06] <lutzee> Hmm, you could try changing the key config for place to a key on the keyboard and see if that works
#1792 [17:07] <zebra77788> i place things buy pressing right on my mouse
#1793 [17:07] <zebra77788> there is no way that i know of to change that
#1794 [17:07] <Magiobiwan> I hate macs
#1795 [17:07] <Magiobiwan> They're so weird
#1796 [17:07] <zebra77788> i like them, magiobiwan
#1797 [17:07] <zebra77788> anyways
#1798 [17:08] <Magiobiwan> You're paying like $1k for old hardware and a proprietary as hell OS
#1799 [17:08] <xales> You can change the place-block key in the options.
#1800 [17:08] <lutzee> press escape>options>controls
#1801 [17:08] <xales> Magiobiwan: It's less proprietary, by far, than Windows. :p
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#1803 [17:08] <zebra77788> magiobiwan i came here for help not complaining
#1804 [17:08] <Magiobiwan> xales, true.
#1805 [17:08] <Magiobiwan> zebra77788, you're right
#1806 [17:08] * Magiobiwan takes his complaints to #ihatemacs
#1806 [17:09] <zebra77788> -_-
#1807 [17:09] <Ogredude> hey, I don't think I understand minecart physics very well. I've got a rail rigged up with powered track at intervals, and it carries me in a minecart up the hill perfectly happily. But it won't carry a minecart with chest. I have to put a powered minecart behind.
#1808 [17:09] <Ogredude> is the chest cart considered heavier than a mob- or PC-laden cart?
#1809 [17:09] <lutzee> Ogredude: the player in a cart has a mught greater "weight" than a chestcart,
#1810 [17:09] <Magiobiwan> Ogredude, it's all a conspiracy!
#1811 [17:10] <zebra77788> no setting on my mac for changing placing blocks
#1812 [17:10] <lutzee> Ogredude: if you place more powered track down then it should work better
#1813 [17:10] <Ogredude> lutzee: so it seems to me that the powered rail should give more momentum to the lighter cart
#1814 [17:10] <lutzee> or just line the whole hill with powered track
#1815 [17:10] <Ogredude> ehn, can't afford that
#1816 [17:10] <lutzee> Ogredude: you don't understand momentum obviously
#1817 [17:11] <Ogredude> I'm currently using 2-track segments of powered rail, I could add another piece to the downhill side
#1818 [17:11] <Ogredude> lutzee: I understand that it's a whole hell of a lot easier to push a VW bug than a one-ton truck.
#1819 [17:11] <lutzee> Ogredude: momentum is mass x velocity
#1820 [17:11] <zebra77788> i need help!
#1821 [17:11] <Ogredude> okay then semantics. s/momentum/push/
#1822 [17:11] <zebra77788> fine
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#1824 [17:12] <Ogredude> so what you're saying is that the powered rail doesn't push the lighter carts (empty/chest) as hard as it does the heavier (PC/mob) carts.
#1825 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Right
#1826 [17:13] <lutzee> Ogredude: er something like that, drag affects the lighter carts much more due to the fact it takes less friction to slow them down
#1827 [17:13] * lutzee is loving the physics a level catchup
#1827 [17:13] <Ogredude> wonder how much difference a third piece of powered rail on each of the powered segments will make.
#1828 [17:13] <lutzee> It might just make the difference :)
#1829 [17:13] <lutzee> you could always test on creative :)
#1830 [17:14] <Ogredude> I certainly could, if I wasn't so damn lazy :)
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#1833 [17:15] <Personal> hello
#1834 [17:15] <Ogredude> hmm, my cohort says skip it and we'll just use a furnace cart to push the chest cart up the hill
#1835 [17:15] <Ogredude> the powered segments work perfectly for carrying us up the hill
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#1837 [17:15] <Personal> I need help
#1838 [17:16] <Personal> How do you find out the email you used for you account if you forget it?
#1839 [17:16] <Personal> your*
#1840 [17:17] <Ogredude> also, there's one segment at the endpoint of my track, when we get in the cart, we get injured. A lot. What should I be looking for? The ceiling's clear above the cart for 2 blocks. Do we need a 3-block wide ceiling over the cart?
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#1842 [17:17] <Ogredude> The only thing that makes sense to me is that the game thinks we're clipping into another block and is suffocating us
#1843 [17:17] <Ogredude> Personal: how many email addresses do you have? You could always try a password reset on each one.
#1844 [17:18] <Ogredude> the one that works is the one you signed up with
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#1846 [17:19] <Personal> I clicked register and made the account but when I go to verify the account it don't show the verification code.....
#1847 [17:19] <Personal> ( In my inbox for my email )
#1848 [17:20] <Ogredude> Personal: ah so you do know the email address you signed up with, you just haven't gotten the confirmation code.
#1849 [17:20] <Ogredude> Personal: check your spam folder, sometimes it'll end up there
#1850 [17:20] <Personal> Ok
#1851 [17:20] <Personal> 1 second then
#1852 [17:21] <Ogredude> Personal: also how long ago? I've seen emails take up to an hour to come through. Unfortunately email isn't as instant as many people think.
#1853 [17:21] <Personal> a couple of days ago
#1854 [17:21] <lutzee> Personal: getting the email address assosiated with an account isn't possible
#1855 [17:21] <Ogredude> so yeah check the spam folder. Otherwise you should be able to re-request the confirmation email
#1856 [17:22] <lutzee> but you can put your email in here http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename and if it gives you a name then that is the right email
#1857 [17:22] <Personal> I tried that to but im not getting the emails
#1858 [17:23] <lutzee> Well i can only assume that the email you put in does not match your email
#1859 [17:23] <lutzee> say you had a typo in the email you put in
#1860 [17:23] <Personal> Thats what im thinking
#1861 [17:26] <Personal> Is it possible I could check what e-mail i used for my account?
#1862 [17:27] <DiskDaemon> Sure, put your username in at http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification
#1863 [17:28] <Compodulator> ommm
#1864 [17:28] <Compodulator> it just sends an email to that account
#1865 [17:28] <Compodulator> to my understanding, personal forgot his email?
#1866 [17:29] <Personal> Im not going to figure how to get it back, oh well, do any of you know a good minecraft name I could use to make a new account?
#1867 [17:29] <Personal> @Compodulator, yes I did.
#1868 [17:30] <Compodulator> was it a gmail?
#1869 [17:30] <Personal> hotmail
#1870 [17:30] <Compodulator> tried digging in your history?
#1871 [17:30] <DiskDaemon> Alternatively, you can work through email accounts that you have control of at http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename to have an email sent showing the username assigned to that email account
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#1873 [17:31] <Compodulator> well that's not helpful as the dude forgot what email he used
#1874 [17:31] <kingstreet73> Can someone here please help me..
#1875 [17:31] <kingstreet73> 0.o
#1876 [17:32] <Personal> DiskDaemon, when I put in the email I don't recive the email from minecraft.net
#1877 [17:32] <kingstreet73> I just started playing minecraft since I havent played in a while at my friends house and all of a sudden when I press F11 to full screen, it just gives a black screen. The game is still working cause when I move with W,A,S,D I hear footsteps..
#1878 [17:33] <Ogredude> So we had this great idea of putting an obsidian facade on our citadel.
#1879 [17:33] <Ogredude> That idea was put to rest when we found out exactly how long it takes to mine obsidian.
#1880 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> Personal: Does the page say that it sent you an email? If it does, then the problem may be that the email may be falling in to a spam trap of some kind
#1881 [17:33] <Ogredude> Good lord!
#1882 [17:34] <Personal> Whats a good minecraft name i could use for a new account?
#1883 [17:34] <Compodulator> well, it's kinda bugger that you have to get a new name
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#1885 [17:34] <Compodulator> you do understand it involves buying a new account, yes?
#1886 [17:35] <Compodulator> wait, hold on dude, i have another idea
#1887 [17:35] <xales> kingstreet73: Restart your computer.
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#1890 [17:35] <Personal> Anyone want to help me out with a new minecraft name? :D
#1891 [17:35] <Ogredude> kingstreet73: I decided fullscreen makes it too much of a beast to alt+tab to things. I just maximize it and go. It's nearly as good as fullscreen and causes fewer problems.
#1892 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> This is whay I suggested that you enter all of the email addresses that you have access to
#1893 [17:35] <Compodulator> do you have cookies enable?
#1894 [17:35] <Compodulator> enabled
#1895 [17:36] <Personal> ok
#1896 [17:36] <Personal> Yes I have cookies enabled
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#1898 [17:36] <ThomQ> Finally, my credit card arrived! :P
#1899 [17:36] <Compodulator> there you are!
#1900 [17:36] <Compodulator> check your im window
#1901 [17:36] <Personal> What>
#1902 [17:37] <Personal> ?*
#1903 [17:37] <Personal> So if I have cookies enable I won't recivie the e-mails?
#1904 [17:37] <xales> Personal: Cookies have nothing to do with the issue.
#1905 [17:38] <Compodulator> no not that
#1906 [17:38] <Compodulator> i was going to take my cookies as an example to try and figure out what emails you use
#1907 [17:38] <Personal> oh
#1908 [17:38] <xales> ._.
#1909 [17:39] <Personal> Well, oh well if I lost the e-mail :P
#1910 [17:39] <xales> Are you trying to recover a premium account?
#1911 [17:39] <Personal> Whats a good minecraft name I could use to make a new one?
#1912 [17:39] <Personal> no
#1913 [17:39] <ThomQ> Ow no
#1914 [17:39] <ThomQ> it's moneybookers
#1915 [17:39] <Personal> I needed to verify the account
#1916 [17:39] <ThomQ> PFFFFffff
#1917 [17:40] <xales> Just make a new one then...
#1918 [17:40] <xales> ThomQ: You could use PayPal :p
#1919 [17:40] <xales> (probably should, MoneyBookers has issues.)
#1920 [17:40] <ThomQ> its not my personal card, can't add it to a paypal nor a moneybookers
#1921 [17:40] <ThomQ> this is such crap
#1922 [17:40] <ThomQ> Really Dissapointed
#1923 [17:41] <Personal> Whats a simple minecraft name
#1924 [17:41] <Personal> ?
#1925 [17:41] <ThomQ> they should just say Moneybookers and Paypal.. Dont give me a creditcard option if you don't have one..
#1926 [17:41] <ThomQ> And why wouldn't they have one, they made Millions :O
#1927 [17:42] <Personal> Can someone help me out, whats a good minecraft name>
#1928 [17:42] <Personal> ?*
#1929 [17:42] <xales> Personal: Whatever you want.
#1930 [17:42] <xales> Just pick one.
#1931 [17:42] <xales> ._.
#1932 [17:42] <lutzee> Moneybookers have their own direct payment method..
#1933 [17:42] <Personal> I can't think of one ._.
#1934 [17:42] <xales> ThomQ: You don't need to add it to an account
#1935 [17:42] <DiskDaemon> It seems to me that a good wayhat a good to keep a hold of millions, is by not spending money when you don't have to
#1936 [17:42] <xales> Personal: Why should we think of one when you can't?
#1937 [17:42] <ThomQ> Xales: I don't? Why would I need the moneybookers account then?
#1938 [17:43] <NinjaKirby> Personal: "Legolas"
#1939 [17:43] <lutzee> Personal: you have any Novels lying around?
#1940 [17:43] <Personal> nah
#1941 [17:43] <DiskDaemon> lutzee: Thinking of turning to page 78 line 12?
#1942 [17:43] <lutzee> bonus points to those who know where my nick is from ;)
#1943 [17:44] <lutzee> DiskDaemon: nah just finding a name, any name
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#1945 [17:44] <xales> ThomQ: You don't need an account.
#1946 [17:44] <xales> ._.
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#1948 [17:44] <xales> You can pay directly, without an account.
#1949 [17:44] <lutzee> damn he left
#1950 [17:44] <lutzee> I just grabbed a book#
#1951 [17:44] <ThomQ> Xales: Yeah I do, when I click Confirm and Pay I need to log into a moneybookers account
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#1953 [17:45] <GravyKid> How do I access the default terrain.png on mac?
#1954 [17:45] <DiskDaemon> I would hazard a guess at lightbringer
#1955 [17:45] <xales> ThomQ: You don't. You're reading it wrong, or something. Alternatively, use PayPal.
#1956 [17:45] <xales> GravyKid: There is a guide on the wiki.
#1957 [17:46] <GravyKid> where though
#1958 [17:46] <xales> Well, there's this really amazing thing called "Google"
#1959 [17:46] <xales> it helps you find things on the Internet.
#1960 [17:46] <xales> You should try it some time.
#1961 [17:46] <lutzee> GravyKid: its inside the minecraft.jar file (which is just a zip file)
#1962 [17:46] <lutzee> ?? mac/.minecraft
#1963 [17:46] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#1964 [17:46] <lutzee> you can get to that file there ^
#1965 [17:47] <ThomQ> Xales: Really, i Choose my creditcard, it takes my to a Provider.. There I fill in my info, and it wants my email for some reason.. When I click confirm and pay it says Login TO Your Moneybookers Account
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#1967 [17:47] <qevenson> hello
#1968 [17:47] <Grimlock257> Hello, Every now and then, I get this error, How the hell do I fix it, Its really really annoying! http://paste.thezomg.com/4635/46708818/
#1969 [17:48] <ThomQ> It also does that if I want to do a direct bank transfer
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#1971 [17:48] <xales> ThomQ: Okay, don't use MoneyBookers then...
#1972 [17:48] <qevenson> i need help i went through the process to buy minecraft and i bought it and it said it went through on mine craft but it wont let me play now it says i am not a premium account!?
#1973 [17:49] <DiskDaemon> Grimlock257: The graphics drivers that it's attempting to sue are out of date. Are you using a laptop with switchable graphics, perhaps?
#1974 [17:49] <xales> DiskDaemon: OpenAL, not GL. :p
#1975 [17:49] <Grimlock257> Im using AlienWare M17x :P
#1976 [17:49] <lutzee> >.>
#1977 [17:49] <xales> qevenson: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1978 [17:49] <lutzee> Update the sound drivers! :D
#1979 [17:50] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#1980 [17:50] <ThomQ> Xales: Im not using moneybookers, Im choosing to pay with my VISA
#1981 [17:50] <Grimlock257> Err. I don't normally have problems with Drivers.. So.. I never really needed to update them.. So how would I update them
#1982 [17:50] <xales> ThomQ: Yes, and card payments are handled by MoneyBookers.
#1983 [17:50] <xales> ThomQ: Use PayPal instead.
#1984 [17:50] <xales> Grimlock257: support.dell.com
#1985 [17:51] <ThomQ> I dont have paypal, at least not one with a credit card hooked up
#1986 [17:51] <lutzee> ^ and find your computer model and download the sounds drivers :)
#1987 [17:51] <xales> ThomQ: You don't need a PayPal account.
#1988 [17:51] <xales> You click the thing that says "I do not have a PayPal account" and you put the card info in
#1989 [17:51] <Grimlock257> Okay, Thanks lutzee
#1990 [17:51] <kingstreet73> I need help... Anytime I press f11 it gives me a black screen. I never had this problem before! I press F11 to go full screen because I dont lag much.... I never had this problem before all of a sudden its happening.. Its been like this for a few days now and its annoying me...
#1991 [17:51] <xales> then you click "Pay"
#1992 [17:51] <xales> it's really difficult
#1993 [17:51] <ThomQ> Ifor real? ok, ill try that
#1994 [17:51] <xales> kingstreet73: Just use the maximize button
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#1996 [17:51] <xales> Anyway
#1997 [17:51] * xales -> dinner
#1997 [17:51] <ThomQ> Bon Apetit man
#1998 [17:52] <ThomQ> lol, paypal page is in Finnish??
#1999 [17:52] <ThomQ> its like being in a store at the counter, waving my money in the face of the clerk, but he won't take it :P
#2000 [17:53] <lutzee> ThomQ: ahh that's a known problem, it's sweedish actually as mojang is based in sweeden um
#2001 [17:53] <ThomQ> :) got it in English now..
#2002 [17:53] <lutzee> :)
#2003 [17:53] <ThomQ> Wow, I'm really quite shocked by this whole process
#2004 [17:54] <Grimlock257> Thanks lutzee and xales, Now downloading updated drivers :D
#2005 [17:54] <ThomQ> like they set up their payment system 3 years ago, when they were tiny, and haven't touched it since
#2006 [17:58] <ThomQ> woohoo, its done.. Instant Premium as well
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#2008 [18:03] <ThomQ> :( It runs like crap
#2009 [18:03] <ThomQ> what is this.. Low FPS, it hangs now and then, I can't hold down left mouse anymore
#2010 [18:03] <ThomQ> :S
#2011 [18:03] <ThomQ> the demo ran fine...
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#2013 [18:05] <Safaet> Hello
#2014 [18:06] <ThomQ> Hi
#2015 [18:06] <Safaet> I have forgotten my minecraft password and my email password what should I do?
#2016 [18:07] <DiskDaemon> Safaet: DO you know your username?
#2017 [18:07] <Safaet> Yes
#2018 [18:09] <DiskDaemon> Contact Mojang about changing your email address - you will need your transaction id as proof of ownership http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#2019 [18:09] <Safaet> ???
#2020 [18:09] <Safaet> What is a transaction Id?
#2021 [18:10] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#2022 [18:10] <Safaet> Thanks!!
#2023 [18:10] <ThomQ> Wow..
#2024 [18:11] <ThomQ> Well, went through all the graphics settings, nothing works
#2025 [18:11] <ThomQ> Game is Totally unplayable
#2026 [18:11] <ThomQ> :( And i tried so hard to give them my 20 bucks
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#2028 [18:11] <ThomQ> I should have known better
#2029 [18:11] <DiskDaemon> ??> ThomQ win/dxdiag
#2030 [18:11] <VoxelHead> ThomQ: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2031 [18:11] <VoxelHead> ThomQ: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2032 [18:12] <Safaet> My transaction id is on the email account I forgot the password 2 :(!!!!
#2033 [18:12] <ThomQ> Cool, doing it now
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#2035 [18:13] <ThomQ> http://pastebin.com/4hWZsa7s
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#2037 [18:15] <DiskDaemon> ??> ThomQ gpu/nvidia
#2038 [18:15] <VoxelHead> ThomQ: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
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#2040 [18:16] <ThomQ> I got the latest drivers, no Updates are available
#2041 [18:17] <ThomQ> the strangest/lamest thing of it all : The demo worked fine
#2042 [18:17] <DiskDaemon> ThomQ: Are you using a laptop or a desktop?
#2043 [18:17] <ThomQ> desktop
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#2045 [18:18] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, how odd. Because from what you're reporting, it seems that some other graphics card is being used, such as the onboard graphics card, instead of the 3d graphics card
#2046 [18:19] <ThomQ> you get that from the DxDiag log?
#2047 [18:20] <DiskDaemon> some of it
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#2049 [18:20] <ThomQ> well, other games run Fine on my rig, very smoothly even, and all seem to use the GTX570
#2050 [18:21] <ThomQ> I run battlefield 3 on ultra, skyrim on ultra
#2051 [18:21] <DiskDaemon> Those other games also use directx, not opengl
#2052 [18:21] <ThomQ> but where in the Log do you see that?
#2053 [18:22] <ThomQ> I develop games in OpenGL2.0 on this rig
#2054 [18:22] <DiskDaemon> That info is not in the log
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#2056 [18:23] <ThomQ> ahh, ok, so based on my Symptoms, you suspect that minecraft tries to use my onboard graphics controller?
#2057 [18:23] <ThomQ> Why would it do that though?
#2058 [18:23] <DiskDaemon> That seems to be the case
#2059 [18:23] <ThomQ> is that a bug, or something that minecraft normally does?
#2060 [18:24] <DiskDaemon> Can you give us more details on your symptoms?
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#2062 [18:25] <ThomQ> I get a very low framerate, pop-ins from the terrain, I cant hold down mouse1, and as soon as I turn on fraps to check the FPS the whole thing hangs for 10 seconds then 1 second not and then it hangs for 10 seconds, etc
#2063 [18:25] <DiskDaemon> I don't think that it is using your other graphics chip, because you're using a desktop machine. It just seems like that is what's happening. Laptops are notorious for this, because they use switchable graphics for their video output
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#2065 [18:26] <ThomQ> Ow, and I can't printscreen my settings for some reason.. The capture turns up black
#2066 [18:26] <DiskDaemon> Don't use fraps for now, use the F3 kep to turn on the minecraft debug screen where you can see the framerate and other details
#2067 [18:26] <ThomQ> Ahh ok, cool ill check
#2068 [18:26] <DiskDaemon> F3 key
#2069 [18:27] <ThomQ> ow, without fraps returning back to game makes it hang completely
#2070 [18:28] <ThomQ> during play FPS jumps from 50 to 70, when paused it jumps to 200. Got Max FPS on
#2071 [18:28] <ThomQ> Minecraft shouldn't be that hard on the system right?
#2072 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> Those framerates are quite respectable
#2073 [18:29] <ThomQ> really? I get a steady 70fps with vsync on for the heavy games on ultra
#2074 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> If you had it stuck on a framerate of 3, for example, then you definately have problems.
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#2076 [18:31] <ThomQ> hehe yeah, that i would just call a hanger
#2077 [18:31] <ThomQ> Im going to restart, I did have photoshop running in the background as well
#2078 [18:31] <ThomQ> Still, I have that with other games as well.. But cool, restatrting, brb
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#2080 [18:32] <DiskDaemon> But yeah, minecraft (well java really) is more at the mercy of the operating system. From the F3 debug screen, the chart at the bottom left shows the response time, for example
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#2085 [18:38] <zachhutton> I have put in my card to buy this game three times and used three differnet cards and it still has not worked what is the problem?
#2086 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> Contact the bank who issued the card
#2087 [18:38] <ThomQ> back
#2088 [18:38] <ThomQ> well, it runs a bit better
#2089 [18:38] <ThomQ> I still can't hold down mouse1 to dig though
#2090 [18:39] <zachhutton> Its a credit card and i know that all of the cards have money on them that i have used
#2091 [18:39] <ThomQ> Ow, and it crahses again when i go Back To Game
#2092 [18:39] <ThomQ> Ow, and it crahses again when i go Back To Game
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#2094 [18:39] <ThomQ> pffff, are you kidding me
#2095 [18:39] <DiskDaemon> What happens instead?
#2096 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> That's not good. Can we see a crash report? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
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#2099 [18:44] <ThomQ> http://pastebin.com/dfHbiz3f
#2100 [18:44] <ThomQ> the error at line 92 is where it starts hanging
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#2103 [18:45] <ThomQ> Before that though I can't use left mousebutton, that problem is there from the beginning
#2104 [18:45] <ThomQ> GL error, out of memory
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#2110 [18:48] <DiskDaemon> ThomQ: I suspect that it's due to using the 32-bit version of java, when you should be using the 64-bit version instead
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#2112 [18:49] <ThomQ> ARrrrgh
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#2114 [18:49] <ThomQ> I cant
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#2116 [18:49] <lutzee> 32bit machine?
#2117 [18:49] <ThomQ> I need 32 bit for the game engine I use
#2118 [18:49] <ThomQ> no, I got 64 bits, But i develop games with Unity, wich only runs with 32bits java
#2119 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> You can have both installed at the same time
#2120 [18:49] <lutzee> you can have both 32bit and 64bit versions of the same version of java installed at the same time
#2121 [18:50] <ThomQ> yeah?
#2122 [18:50] <ThomQ> let me try
#2123 [18:50] <lutzee> Yup, they have to be matching versions of java though otherwise you cause problems elseware
#2124 [18:50] <DiskDaemon> yeah.
#2125 [18:50] <DiskDaemon> Err, yes :)
#2126 [18:50] <lutzee> elsewhere*
#2127 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> lutzee: DO you know how the default one is determined?
#2128 [18:51] <ThomQ> yeah, that Id like to know as well
#2129 [18:52] <lutzee> The default one that installs, is what the java site detects the browser as, most of the time is 32bit
#2130 [18:52] <DiskDaemon> You can always create a shortcut that uses a custom run parameter, for example: "%ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java" -jar minecraft.exe
#2131 [18:52] <ThomQ> ow, I meant the windows default
#2132 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> The default one that launches, is determined by how you launch it, and which global environment variable it pulls from
#2133 [18:53] <ThomQ> but i guess 32 bit software just uses the 32 bit
#2134 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> If you launch it from the CLI, it determines it from the PATH environment variable for java
#2135 [18:59] <ThomQ> \ok well, it now runs at 250+ FPS
#2136 [18:59] <ThomQ> And so far, No hangs!
#2137 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> impressive
#2138 [18:59] <ThomQ> im a bit confused about diggin though. If I hold mouse 1, it should just dig continously, right?
#2139 [19:00] * lutzee is looking forward to 100fps, i'd be lucky to get 250
#2139 [19:00] <ThomQ> If a pig comes nearby, it stops though
#2140 [19:00] <ThomQ> is that normal?
#2141 [19:00] <DiskDaemon> Are you digging with your hand, or with a pick?
#2142 [19:00] <lutzee> er if you hover over an entity it swaps to attack mode which you have to click continuously to attack
#2143 [19:01] <ThomQ> i have no idea
#2144 [19:01] <ThomQ> remember, first time n00b :P I have uhh yeah hands, wooden block, and a flower
#2145 [19:01] <DiskDaemon> Here's some info on getting started with minecraft http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner's_guide
#2146 [19:01] <ThomQ> Ahh lutzee, thanks, just what I thought
#2147 [19:02] <ThomQ> Yes Thanks DiskDeamon!
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#2149 [19:02] <ThomQ> its night
#2150 [19:02] * lutzee gets the rest of his PC on wednesday :3
#2150 [19:02] <ThomQ> I climbed in a tree, and am scared..
#2151 [19:02] <ThomQ> I think im going to start over :P
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#2153 [19:03] <DiskDaemon> ThomQ: After you get started, you may want to explore some crafting recipies too http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting#Complete_recipe_list
#2154 [19:04] <ThomQ> ahh thanks
#2155 [19:05] <ThomQ> what is the Seed for the world generator? Kinda like the values in games like Worms, so you get a certain type of environment?
#2156 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Exactly
#2157 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> But first, punch wood, create crafting table and tools, get stone, make more durable tools, get coal, create torches, and shelter (from night-time creatures) and keep on going :)
#2158 [19:06] <ThomQ> Got a cool one? :D
#2159 [19:06] <ThomQ> Disk: yeah exactly, ill build a fence, with a crafting table inside
#2160 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> The land that is generated is based on the seed. If you start a new map with the same seed, you get the same land being generated.
#2161 [19:07] <ThomQ> ive seen deserts and stuff. Will all those environments come into play in any world?
#2162 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> You may want to create a bed too, so that when night approaches, you can sleep and skip the night-time troubles until you're ready
#2163 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> Yes, the biomes appear in different places of your world
#2164 [19:08] <DiskDaemon> In the F3 debug screen the biome you are in is shown near the bottom of the text content
#2165 [19:08] * lutzee misses the awesome old terrain generation :(
#2165 [19:08] <ThomQ> Ahh, cool cool cool
#2166 [19:09] <ThomQ> Wow, it sure does look like lego doesn't it
#2167 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Only better.
#2168 [19:09] <ThomQ> I'm still having quite a few Pop-in's of terrain though, render distance is set to far though
#2169 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> It's a situation where from simple mechanics come complex interactions
#2170 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> You can even purchase physical lego sets with the minecraft theme: http://shop.lego.com/en-US/Minecraft-21102
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#2172 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> ThomQ: Yes, recently they moved the single player to occur on a solo multiplayer server, to help simplify their code. They're working on improving things such as the loading of chunks
#2173 [19:11] <ThomQ> Ahh ok.. Well at least I can Play finally, so ill forgive them for that :P
#2174 [19:12] <DiskDaemon> There's a mod called optifine that can let you customize such things too, but support for that is found elsewhere
#2175 [19:12] <ThomQ> Ill prob check out mods tomorrow
#2176 [19:13] <ThomQ> i can see how this can be Extreme fun with friends, lol
#2177 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> Exploring the caves and caverns under the ground is a good way to get lots of resources too, and things get freaky there
#2178 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> Take plenty of wood though (for tool handles) and torches :)
#2179 [19:14] <ThomQ> :P Too scared to go there yet man
#2180 [19:15] <ThomQ> All my minecraft knowledge is based on this one lets play I've seen. 7 guys playing hardcore mode, trying to slay the elder dragon
#2181 [19:15] <ThomQ> I was kinda sold on the game 20 minutes in :P
#2182 [19:15] <DiskDaemon> There are lots of things to learn. Don't dig straight down (you may fall in to lava, or from a cavern roof) and don't dig up (you'll suffocate on gravel or sand, or drown)
#2183 [19:16] <lutzee> Oh other small tips
#2184 [19:16] <Ogredude> hot damn
#2185 [19:16] <lutzee> Coal in a furnace will smelt exactly 8 items
#2186 [19:17] <lutzee> 1 coal*
#2187 [19:17] <Ogredude> I now have powered rail from the workroom to the mine face, and from the workroom back to the citadel
#2188 [19:17] <ThomQ> do I build my house out of wood blocks or planks?
#2189 [19:17] <lutzee> ThomQ: whatever looks nice, but you get 4 planks from 1 log :)
#2190 [19:17] <FLHerne> Planks are cheaper ;-)
#2191 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> planks are more efficient
#2192 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> but wood blocks can be good for decoration, of the corners and/or edges, for example
#2193 [19:18] <Ogredude> at the moment, I'm using 4 powered rail with an end block, and a button to the side to take off
#2194 [19:18] <FLHerne> I use log 'frames' and the walls filled in with planks, too get a half-timbered sort of effect
#2195 [19:18] <Ogredude> the only glitch I'm having is that the unpowered powered rail segments are a VERY effective brake
#2196 [19:18] <Ogredude> so we still have to dismantle the minecart and place it at the end block to ride back
#2197 [19:19] <Ogredude> so I'm thinking if I place a detector rail at the end of the powered rail segment, it'll power up the rail when I come across and SLAM me into the end block... But at least we won't have to dismantle the cart.
#2198 [19:19] <lutzee> Ogredude: you could put a detector rail at the ends of the starting tracks
#2199 [19:19] <lutzee> hehe
#2200 [19:19] <ThomQ> Disk: im just operating on being scared right now, but yeah 1 wood = 2 planks :P Breaking down my first wall
#2201 [19:19] <lutzee> beat me to it
#2202 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> What if you have just one unpowered rail where the button is, then after a gap you use more powered rail to help take off?
#2203 [19:19] <ThomQ> there are minecarts? :D Sweet
#2204 [19:19] <Ogredude> also I haven't tested it with a chest cart
#2205 [19:19] <Ogredude> I'll probably have to add a few more chunks of powered rail
#2206 [19:19] <lutzee> ThomQ: 1 log is 4 planks actually :)
#2207 [19:19] <Ogredude> but my friend found a buttload of gold, so we're fine for powered rail at the moment :)
#2208 [19:19] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Boats, too
#2209 [19:20] <Ogredude> ThomQ: you new to the game, then?
#2210 [19:20] <FLHerne> And you can sit on pigs, but they aren't controllable so that's a bit pointless :P
#2211 [19:20] <Ogredude> lutzee: bucket of lava in a furnace will smelt a full stack (64) of things.
#2212 [19:20] <ThomQ> Ogre: Yes, i just got it up and running 5 minutes ago. All ive seen of the game is 1 lets play
#2213 [19:20] <DiskDaemon> FLHerne: Soon there's going to be carrot on a stick to control them
#2214 [19:20] <Ogredude> ThomQ: Well, then. Welcome, welcome, welcome. And be prepared to give up all your free time for the forseeable future.
#2215 [19:21] <FLHerne> DiskDaemon: I saw that. SHould be great fun :D
#2216 [19:21] <lutzee> Ogredude: i know, just coal is easier to get :p
#2217 [19:21] <ThomQ> ehahaha
#2218 [19:21] <Ogredude> lutzee: not when you have a private lava pit in the front yard of your citadel ;)
#2219 [19:21] <FLHerne> NB: You need a saddle to sit on a pig ;-)
#2220 [19:21] <ThomQ> are there modding tools? Probably yes
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#2222 [19:21] <lutzee> Ogredude: he's just starting......
#2223 [19:22] <Ogredude> ThomQ: yeah there are LOTS of mods. But play vanilla for a while so you get the feel of how it all works
#2224 [19:22] <hebam64> Hello
#2225 [19:22] <ThomQ> no I mean tools to make mods
#2226 [19:22] <Ogredude> brb I hear zombies.
#2227 [19:22] <lutzee> ^ good advise, if you start with mods too soon you won't know enough vanilla mechanics :p
#2228 [19:22] <hebam64> I having trouble with game
#2229 [19:22] <ThomQ> like skyrim's creation toolkit
#2230 [19:23] <hebam64> I cannot play multiplayer
#2231 [19:23] <FLHerne> Aaah, stupid hamster is eating my mouse cable :-(
#2232 [19:23] <lutzee> hebam64: what exactly does it say when you try to join a server?
#2233 [19:23] <hebam64> hold on let me check to make sure
#2234 [19:24] <ThomQ> lol, its night
#2235 [19:24] <ThomQ> didnt finish my house
#2236 [19:24] <ThomQ> I made myself a box though, with one hole in the top
#2237 [19:24] <ThomQ> how long do I have to sit here? :O
#2238 [19:24] <FLHerne> ThomQ: That should work fine
#2239 [19:25] <FLHerne> You could start on a mine while you're waiting ;-)
#2240 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> If you have spare materials, you may want to craft a sword to help protect yourself.
#2241 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> The creatures drop useful items too
#2242 [19:25] <hebam64> connection timed out
#2243 [19:25] <lutzee> ThomQ: the day and night laste 10 minutes each
#2244 [19:25] <ThomQ> does time pass when in game Menu as well?
#2245 [19:26] <lutzee> so thats each day is 20 minutes
#2246 [19:26] <ThomQ> thanks, and yeah, Il lstart a mine :P
#2247 [19:26] <lutzee> hebam64: does this happen with all servers?
#2248 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> ThomQ: You don't have much in the way of protection though, armor and such, so you are very vulnerable too. It's good to be scared :)
#2249 [19:26] <hebam64> I cannot even get on any server
#2250 [19:26] <ThomQ> i have nothing, i got 1 plank
#2251 [19:26] <hebam64> I dont even see a server list either
#2252 [19:26] <ThomQ> lol, i love this
#2253 [19:27] <lutzee> ??> hebam64 smp/servers
#2254 [19:27] <VoxelHead> hebam64: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2255 [19:27] <ThomQ> i should have known when I saw this commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Ci09GwAmg
#2256 [19:27] <VoxelHead> hebam64: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
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#2258 [19:27] <ThomQ> but no, it took me more then a year :P
#2259 [19:27] <hebam64> I'm sorry, I am new to this whole multiplayer thing
#2260 [19:27] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Got any sticks or tools? Or just the one plank :P
#2261 [19:27] <ThomQ> i got some cocoa beans
#2262 [19:27] <lutzee> hebam64: it's okay, you have to add servers to the list yourself
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#2264 [19:28] <lutzee> VoxelHead has provided some links to sites with large lists of servers
#2265 [19:28] <hebam64> ok, I can do that, but then it times out when I try to connect
#2266 [19:28] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Not the most useful just now :D
#2267 [19:28] <Cris_> hello?
#2268 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> ThomQ: These videos will be of great use for you, the How to Survive and Thrive series http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7326EF82122776A9
#2269 [19:28] <Cris_> I have a question why is it that sometimes i am steave some times i am not?
#2270 [19:28] <lutzee> hebam64: it could be that the server is using an older/newer version of minecraft to the one your client is running
#2271 [19:29] <ThomQ> thanks disk
#2272 [19:29] <josiahisi> That's a 1.3 problem, cris
#2273 [19:29] <ThomQ> Hmm lol my mine isnt really working.. Its more kind of a hole
#2274 [19:29] <ThomQ> the ground keeps falling down
#2275 [19:29] <Cris_> oh ok just asking thanks XD
#2276 [19:29] <lutzee> josiahisi: incorrect, its a mojang server problem
#2277 [19:29] <hebam64> well thanks for your help
#2278 [19:29] <Cris_> ok thanks XD
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#2280 [19:29] <FLHerne> ThomQ: You must have found some sand or gravel
#2281 [19:30] <josiahisi> lutzee, is it? It just started since 1.3 so that was my assumption
#2282 [19:30] <lutzee> Cris_: the mojangs skin servers are haing a lot of problems at the moment
#2283 [19:30] <FLHerne> That stuff's a nuisance :-(
#2284 [19:30] <ThomQ> yeah, i build my house on sand
#2285 [19:30] <ThomQ> wel 4x4 cube
#2286 [19:30] <lutzee> josiahisi: yeah the servers lock up a lot
#2287 [19:30] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Not the greatest thing to build a house on :P
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#2289 [19:31] <FLHerne> Hard to dig, not explosion-proof...
#2290 [19:31] <ThomQ> its not? I build just on the edge of the forrest with a dessert
#2291 [19:31] <ThomQ> Explosions??
#2292 [19:31] <ThomQ> I hear something
#2293 [19:31] <FLHerne> Ah. Mind the creepers :P
#2294 [19:31] <josiahisi> I have a problem with snoop.minecraft.net. It listens whether I have 'disabled' or not. Does anyone think they can help me?
#2295 [19:31] <FLHerne> They tend to blow up in your face if you aren't careful :P
#2296 [19:32] <ThomQ> They are some kind of glowing red spiders coming from the desert
#2297 [19:32] <lutzee> josiahisi: if you don't want them snooping block the address in your firewall
#2298 [19:32] <ThomQ> i jumped up through the hole to look
#2299 [19:32] <FLHerne> ThomQ: SPiders not too dangerous. They can climb up vertical walls though
#2300 [19:33] <ThomQ> i plugged up the hole :|
#2301 [19:33] <ThomQ> its total darkness
#2302 [19:33] <ThomQ> and I hear something shreaking
#2303 [19:33] <josiahisi> lutzee: What would that be located under? It's not an existing program process that I know of
#2304 [19:33] <lutzee> josiahisi: it will be part of whatever anti virus you use
#2305 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> zombies moan, spiders chitter, skeletons clank, creepers tend to be silent - what shrieks when you're getting started?
#2306 [19:34] <ThomQ> ow shit
#2307 [19:34] <FLHerne> Spiders are probably the closest
#2308 [19:34] <FLHerne> Or cavern sounds
#2309 [19:34] <ThomQ> multiple zombies outside
#2310 [19:34] <ThomQ> ffin loud
#2311 [19:35] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Those are'nt too bad, just irritating to listen to ;-)
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#2313 [19:35] <ThomQ> all i can do is throw cacao beans on them, or sand
#2314 [19:35] <FLHerne> Nasty in groups though, and they can bash down wooden doors
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#2316 [19:36] <FLHerne> In that situation I'd say tunnel out, but the sand might not help that :-(
#2317 [19:36] <FLHerne> What's the box made of?
#2318 [19:36] <josiahisi> lutzee: I'm unfamiliar with how to block it and/or add a new rule to block it
#2319 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> When daylight comes, zombies and skeletons burn up
#2320 [19:36] <ThomQ> wooden planks
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#2322 [19:36] <ThomQ> i think its day im going out
#2323 [19:36] <ThomQ> time passes while in the menu as well ,right?
#2324 [19:37] <lutzee> josiahisi: you might want to look on google, every antivirus is different
#2325 [19:37] <FLHerne> ThomQ: If you take out some of the planks and replace with sand, you can build a sword ;-)
#2326 [19:37] <ThomQ> can I pause the game?
#2327 [19:37] <JoStrom> Hi I got disconnected. I need to find out why when I purchased the PC version and downloaded it still doesn't say Mods and Texture packs when I sign on
#2328 [19:38] <lutzee> ThomQ: press escape
#2329 [19:38] <ThomQ> Ok, its day. Im getting A lot of wood
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#2331 [19:38] <ThomQ> in game menu time doesn't pass?
#2332 [19:38] <ThomQ> ok, so I need wood, and I need light
#2333 [19:39] <FLHerne> ThomQ: You need stone, too ;-)
#2334 [19:39] <FLHerne> For tools
#2335 [19:39] <lutzee> ThomQ: no in pause ingame time does not pass
#2336 [19:40] <ThomQ> ok, thanks
#2337 [19:40] <ThomQ> Where would I find stone?
#2338 [19:40] <FLHerne> Did they fix that? I though pausing in menus was broken with 1.3?
#2339 [19:40] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Under the mud ;-)
#2340 [19:40] <ThomQ> ok cool.. I think its broken for me to though
#2341 [19:40] <josiahisi> lutzee: I can't find anything on blocking specific site adresses. And if I block the ip of snoop.minecraft.net won't it just block minecraft.net as a whole?
#2342 [19:40] <ThomQ> the zombies were making noise
#2343 [19:40] <ThomQ> and music started playing which I assumed stood for that it was day again
#2344 [19:40] <lutzee> josiahisi: not nessasarily
#2345 [19:41] <lutzee> give me a second
#2346 [19:41] <FLHerne> The music is just music :P
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#2348 [19:41] <ThomQ> what would I need for a torch?
#2349 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> Time passes though when in the inventory, or looking at the furnace dialog, or other places like that
#2350 [19:41] <FLHerne> Coal and a stick
#2351 [19:41] <FLHerne> Charcoal will do too
#2352 [19:41] <josiahisi> lutzee: Just checked different IP's I'll try blocking it
#2353 [19:42] <FLHerne> Sticks are 2 planks on top of each other, charcoal is a plank cooked in a furnace
#2354 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> The wiki is useful for that. Type what you want at the top right, and you get taken to http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Torch
#2355 [19:42] <lutzee> josiahisi: here http://pastebin.com/Dx2DQci1
#2356 [19:42] <FLHerne> SOrry, a log cooked in a furnace
#2357 [19:43] <josiahisi> lutzee: That matches up with what I got, hope this works
#2358 [19:43] <Ogredude> oh man this is great
#2359 [19:43] <Ogredude> we've got our ranch going in pits in the yard
#2360 [19:43] <Ogredude> the pits were 2 blocks deep but the animals kept getting on top of one another and jumping out
#2361 [19:43] <Ogredude> so I made them 3 blocks deep. But now, when we jump into the pit to feed/kill animals, it's kinda hard on the knees.
#2362 [19:44] <Ogredude> So, I used a ladder on the second block, used dirt to build a single block hole on the top layer, and filled the hole with water.
#2363 [19:44] <Ogredude> Ladder keeps the water in the hole, and we jump in the water and it gently drops us into the critter pen
#2364 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> you can fall 4 blocks without taking damage now
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#2366 [19:45] <ThomQ> Huh
#2367 [19:45] <ThomQ> I can drop things too or something?
#2368 [19:45] <ThomQ> I just lost all my wood
#2369 [19:46] <ThomQ> and now its getting dark :D
#2370 [19:46] <ThomQ> Im going to restart! :P
#2371 [19:46] <lutzee> ThomQ: if you press Q it will drop what is in our hand
#2372 [19:46] <Ogredude> DiskDaemon: so the water brake lets you fall 4 blocks?
#2373 [19:46] <ThomQ> ok cool
#2374 [19:47] <Ogredude> DiskDaemon: I'm definitely taking damage dropping 3 blocks without the water brake
#2375 [19:47] <ThomQ> Im going to collect myself, and start a new game :P
#2376 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> Ogredude: Without the water brake, you used to normally fall 3 blocks without taking damage - now it's 4 blocks
#2377 [19:47] <ThomQ> I obviously can't find charcoal the first day right? So i shouldnt think about torches?
#2378 [19:48] <FLHerne> ThomQ: First day essentials for try 2: Get wood, make wooden axe. Get more wood. Dig hole. Get stone. Make furnace. Make charcoal. Make torches. Make house
#2379 [19:48] <FLHerne> Ideally get some wool to make a bed, then you can skip the night
#2380 [19:48] <DiskDaemon> Ogredude: Then a misunderstanding may be occurring. Can we see a screenshot of the situation?
#2381 [19:48] <FLHerne> Insert 'Make pick' prior to 'get stone'
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#2383 [19:48] <ThomQ> wooden pickaxe?
#2384 [19:49] <DiskDaemon> This beginners guide helps to flesh all of that out http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner's_guide
#2385 [19:49] <FLHerne> Well - you could make a wooden pick, get 3 stone, then make a stone 1 :P
#2386 [19:49] <FLHerne> Make a stone axe and sword while you're at it
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#2388 [19:50] <ThomQ> and stone is underneath mud -> look for water
#2389 [19:50] <ThomQ> ?
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#2391 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> Stone is a few layers under dirt. You can also dig in to a hillside and make a temporary shelter in there while getting stone
#2392 [19:51] <FLHerne> Water isn't that essential. Not very useful.
#2393 [19:51] <JoStrom> can someone tell me why the mods and texture packs button is not showing up when I've purchased the full PC version?
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#2395 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> JoStrom: Because there is no mods button with Minecraft
#2396 [19:52] <lutzee> Only a texturepacks button at the main menu
#2397 [19:53] <JoStrom> how do you know it's the full version after you've purchased it. I clicked on download and I sign on but I don't know if I have the correct version.
#2398 [19:54] <ThomQ> ok cool, here I go.. 10 minutes! :P
#2399 [19:54] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Spawned anywhere useful thistime? :P
#2400 [19:54] <FLHerne> Jungle and desert are about the two worst biomes to start in ;-)
#2401 [19:55] <lutzee> JoStrom: start a single player world, press f3 and it is shown at the top left corner what version
#2402 [19:55] <ThomQ> how do I make the wooden axe?
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#2405 [19:56] <JoStrom> Thank you Lutzee
#2406 [19:56] <JoStrom> Thank you Lutzee
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#2408 [19:56] <ThomQ> sticks
#2409 [19:56] <lutzee> ThomQ: you still have the link to the getting started guide?
#2410 [19:57] <ThomQ> yeah, but im in a panic already :P
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#2412 [19:57] <ThomQ> cool, got it
#2413 [19:57] <lutzee> the recipes for the tools are on there
#2414 [19:57] <lutzee> :)#
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#2416 [19:58] <DiskDaemon> ThomQ: Press Esc for the menu, breathe, and have a bit of a read through that getting started guide
#2417 [19:58] <DiskDaemon> ThomQ: Oh - if you're not already aware, you can press F11 to make the game fullscreen
#2418 [19:58] <ThomQ> :P yeah i just checked, fidgeting on my crafting table
#2419 [19:59] <FLHerne> Then he wouldn't be able to see our helpful and informative advice, though :D
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#2421 [20:01] <ThomQ> got dual screen :)
#2422 [20:01] <lutzee> I wouldn't expect less if you have a video card that does 250fps :)
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#2424 [20:01] <Ogredude> DiskDaemon: yeah I'll get you screenshots in a few minutes
#2425 [20:01] <Ogredude> besides, I want to show off these nifty water brakes :)
#2426 [20:02] <FLHerne> What kind of card gets you 250FPS with MINECRAFT!?
#2427 [20:02] <ThomQ> gtx 570
#2428 [20:02] <FLHerne> I have a 7770 here, and I still get 8fps :P
#2429 [20:02] <FLHerne> Too much buildcraft, perhaps :o
#2430 [20:02] <lutzee> FLHerne: i just bought that card, waiting for it to arrive
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#2432 [20:03] <ThomQ> how can I break stacks?
#2433 [20:03] <lutzee> FLHerne: which brand/cooler?
#2434 [20:03] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Rightclick, IIRC
#2435 [20:03] <crazytaco> it wont let me download the game for some reason
#2436 [20:03] <DiskDaemon> right-click on a stack to break it in half
#2437 [20:04] <FLHerne> lutzee: Sapphire
#2438 [20:04] <DiskDaemon> ThomQ: In your inventory, when you are picking up a stack you can right-click to pick up half of it. When you are placing a stack somewhere, you can right-click to place 1 item from it
#2439 [20:04] <crazytaco> it wont let me download agame
#2440 [20:04] <FLHerne> Nothing megafancy, it's still a Pentium D in the middle ;-)
#2441 [20:04] <lutzee> FLHerne: ahh i went for xfx dual fan :3
#2442 [20:04] <crazytaco> please help
#2443 [20:04] <lutzee> crazytaco: by won't let you explain what happens
#2444 [20:05] <ThomQ> thanks guys, got it.. Now I got a couple of minutes left to get more wood and stone
#2445 [20:05] <FLHerne> crazytaco: Where from? Do you have an account?
#2446 [20:05] <crazytaco> iyes i just bought it
#2447 [20:05] <FLHerne> lutzee: It's a nice card, anyway. Much better than my old FX540 :P
#2448 [20:05] <lutzee> FLHerne: well i'm on a hd 4550 AGP card ;)
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#2450 [20:06] <crazytaco> i just got it the game and have been trying download it for 2 hours and 7 minutes
#2451 [20:07] <lutzee> crazytaco: you have the launcher correct?
#2452 [20:07] <lutzee> and the download has stopped at XX%?
#2453 [20:07] <crazytaco> what do u mean
#2454 [20:07] <lutzee> okay
#2455 [20:07] <lutzee> crazytaco: what antivirus do you use?
#2456 [20:07] <Ogredude> creeper attack, gotta rebuild the front door again.
#2457 [20:07] <Ogredude> bleah.
#2458 [20:07] <crazytaco> what
#2459 [20:07] <FLHerne> lutzee: Well, on my old computer I used to have a Radeon 7000 :P
#2460 [20:08] <lutzee> ._.
#2461 [20:08] <crazytaco> im just 13
#2462 [20:08] <crazytaco> i ca
#2463 [20:08] <crazytaco> nt understand
#2464 [20:08] <lutzee> crazytaco: i'm getting the picture, is there someone older we can talk to who might understand?
#2465 [20:08] <crazytaco> no
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#2467 [20:09] <lutzee> ._.
#2468 [20:09] <crazytaco> ya it sucks
#2469 [20:09] <crazytaco> right
#2470 [20:09] <crazytaco> there not home
#2471 [20:09] <lutzee> crazytaco: okay on the start bar at the very right do you see a small icon that looks like this http://julysoftware.com/images/avg_logo.png ?
#2472 [20:09] <Ogredude> DiskDaemon: so here's my animal pen setup http://d.pr/i/ZydJ
#2473 [20:09] <ThomQ> hmmm
#2474 [20:10] <FLHerne> crazytaco: Just to check, you're downloading from http://www.minecraft.net/download ?
#2475 [20:10] <ThomQ> ok its night. I got a Big hole in my roof, and no more wood
#2476 [20:10] <crazytaco> ok
#2477 [20:10] <Ogredude> DiskDaemon: jumping into that pit without the water brake definitely hurts.
#2478 [20:10] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Got other useful stuff?
#2479 [20:10] <ThomQ> Stone, Sticks wooden axes
#2480 [20:10] <FLHerne> Build a sword then, to kill off irritating mobs
#2481 [20:11] <Ogredude> damn, I miss my dual monitors
#2482 [20:11] <crazytaco> i am downloading from that web
#2483 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> Ogredude: Okay, that looks like a 6-block drop in to there
#2484 [20:11] <Ogredude> DiskDaemon: it's only 3 blocks high, dude
#2485 [20:11] <Ogredude> s/high/deep/
#2486 [20:11] <FLHerne> ThomQ: If you see a weird green creature with tiny feet, runawayquick :P
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#2488 [20:12] <DiskDaemon> hmm, the texture pack makes that confusing :)
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#2490 [20:12] <ThomQ> cool, i got a sword, and an axe so i can chop faster tomorrow
#2491 [20:13] <ThomQ> i really should have all those recipes printed out or somethign
#2492 [20:13] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Just remember the shapes ;-) . They look rather like the finished item usually :P
#2493 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> ThomQ: Do you have a second screen?
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#2495 [20:15] <DiskDaemon> I've found that it's really useful to use one screen to play, and have a second screen for reference purposes
#2496 [20:15] <ThomQ> yeah, but thats where I have this IRC client ;) normally id be checking a movie or something on it though
#2497 [20:15] <DiskDaemon> Or failing that, just alt-tab back and forth between the game and your web browser
#2498 [20:15] <ThomQ> ill use my android tab\]
#2499 [20:16] <lutzee> that's always the other option :p
#2500 [20:16] <Ogredude> ThomQ: Minecraft Canary is an awesome android app for looking up recipes and stuff
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#2503 [20:16] <Ogredude> ThomQ: and you'll memorize the most common recipes automatically after a while
#2504 [20:17] <Ogredude> just by using them so much
#2505 [20:17] <ThomQ> thanks, got it
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#2507 [20:19] <Ogredude> ok, why the heck does my wheat always grow unevenly? http://d.pr/i/upma
#2508 [20:19] <Ogredude> the whole top of that pit is exposed to the sky. Directly underneath the dirt layer is a pond, the whole dang thing is a pond.
#2509 [20:19] <ThomQ> so, now that im playing into this world, can I have friends connect and come here as well?
#2510 [20:20] <Ogredude> but it grows unevenly, and a lot of the dirt patches, when I hoe them, they turn back to dirt within a couple seconds
#2511 [20:20] <Ogredude> ThomQ: not on singleplayer. To share a world with other people you need to connect to/set up a server.
#2512 [20:20] <ThomQ> yeah, sure. But then could I load that world?
#2513 [20:21] <ThomQ> or can I then only use Multiplayer Worlds
#2514 [20:21] <Ogredude> it doesn't take much of a box to run a server on. Ours is currently sitting on a dual Athlon MP box with 4GB RAM and a 7mbit DSL line. It's a bit on the laggy side when we're riding minecarts but otherwise it's working well
#2515 [20:21] <Ogredude> ThomQ: that's a good question. I have no idea.
#2516 [20:21] <Ogredude> Hey guys, is there any way to load a single-player world into a server and use it as multiplayer?
#2517 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2518 [20:23] <Ogredude> GreyVulpine: Fantastic! Got a link to howto docs?
#2519 [20:23] <lutzee> Ogredude: it's not hard
#2520 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> I'll let lutzee explain
#2521 [20:23] <lutzee> Do you know where minecraft stores all its files?
#2522 [20:23] <Ogredude> ThomQ: lutzee has your answer
#2523 [20:23] <ThomQ> So, I could run the a minecraft server on my rig, and then invite some friends, right?
#2524 [20:24] <Ogredude> ThomQ: we did that for the first few minutes, it worked fine\
#2525 [20:24] <DiskDaemon> ThomQ: You can share the singleplayer world with other people on your local network though. There's an option to do that when you press Esc for the menu
#2526 [20:24] <FLHerne> ThomQ: They added the ability to share worlds across LAN (only) into the single-player client
#2527 [20:24] <Ogredude> your limiting factor is your data connection, I think
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#2529 [20:24] <FLHerne> And yes, you could run a proper server too
#2530 [20:24] <Ogredude> oooh, for lan sharing, would hamachi work?
#2531 [20:24] <DiskDaemon> hamachi is a bad idea
#2532 [20:24] <Ogredude> good to know
#2533 [20:24] <ThomQ> Cool, thanks guys
#2534 [20:25] <DiskDaemon> The IP addresses that hamachi uses aren't owned by them, so they can be (and are) clobbered at any stage
#2535 [20:25] * FLHerne is running a small Tekkit server here ;-)
#2535 [20:25] <ThomQ> Yeah, if my connection is a potential bottleneck, I'll be fine ;)
#2536 [20:25] <FLHerne> Really easy to set up an MC server :-)
#2537 [20:25] * DiskDaemon engages defenses
#2537 [20:25] <ThomQ> yeah, reading the tut's now. Piece of cake
#2538 [20:25] <lutzee> FLHerne: well it depends on how good you are with networking :p
#2539 [20:26] <ThomQ> running it to, is prob a bit harder :D
#2540 [20:26] <ThomQ> though
#2541 [20:26] <Ogredude> hah
#2542 [20:26] <ThomQ> to :P as you can see, english is not my first language ;)
#2543 [20:26] <Ogredude> running the server is super-easy. Configuring/customizing the server, I haven't even looked at
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#2545 [20:26] <FLHerne> lutzee: House full of linux boxes with multiple networks ports, home network has three subnets? :P
#2546 [20:26] <Ogredude> ThomQ: honestly, I wouldn't have known if you hadn't pointed it out
#2547 [20:26] <lutzee> The number of people who i have seen failing at port forwarding is horrendous
#2548 [20:26] <lutzee> FLHerne: then you are biased ¬.¬
#2549 [20:27] <FLHerne> :D
#2550 [20:27] <Ogredude> lutzee: good point on the port forwarding. It seems to be a really hard concept for people to grasp
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#2552 [20:28] <lutzee> For me, even with only the knowledge of my own internal network, it took me 2 minutes to portforward everything, maybe having a decent router helps though
#2553 [20:28] <ThomQ> ive played Doom on windows 95 lan networks back in the day, everything other then that is a breaze :P
#2554 [20:28] <ThomQ> Ogre: Thanks :P
#2555 [20:28] <lutzee> ThomQ: I played doom with friends about a month or so ago :D so much fun,:3
#2556 [20:29] <Ogredude> hmm, I need to go look up how to do minecart track switching. I'm wanting a lever at the mine workroom that'll send the cart to either the mine face or the citadel depending on the lever position.
#2557 [20:29] <ThomQ> :P Yeah some games age well
#2558 [20:29] <ThomQ> Others... not so much
#2559 [20:29] <ThomQ> Goldeneye for example :P
#2560 [20:29] <Ogredude> ThomQ: haha I never got to play Doom on a LAN. I did play a few times with a friend over a null modem cable, though :)
#2561 [20:29] <Ogredude> that was back when a 486 DX/33 was a pretty decent box
#2562 [20:30] <ThomQ> hehehe
#2563 [20:30] <DiskDaemon> Which is why there are total conversions, such as this goldeneye one for HL2 http://www.moddb.com/mods/goldeneye-source/
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#2565 [20:31] <elsmith> the demo wont let me do anything
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#2567 [20:31] <DiskDaemon> ?? demo
#2568 [20:31] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#2569 [20:31] <lutzee> elsmith: Elaborate, what state is the game in?
#2570 [20:31] <lutzee> also ^
#2571 [20:31] <ThomQ> haha wow. that looks great with lighting, doesnt it? :D
#2572 [20:32] <elsmith> the demo wont let me cut down trees or dig anything
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#2574 [20:32] <mibbit1> hiya. my skin isn't showing up in my singleplayer world.
#2575 [20:33] <mibbit1> not in multiplayer either. it was working 5 minutes ago.
#2576 [20:33] <ThomQ> Cool, my house is done :P
#2577 [20:33] <ThomQ> Im signing off for tonight, maybe ill catch you guys later
#2578 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> elsmith - Are you holding down your left mouse button?
#2579 [20:33] <ThomQ> thanks for all the help!
#2580 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Take care ThomQ
#2581 [20:33] <FLHerne> mibbit1: Probably the skin servers at minecraft.net have gone down again. Very unreliable recently
#2582 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> elsmith: From which web page are you playing the demo?
#2583 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> also that ^
#2584 [20:33] <elsmith> no guess i need to thx
#2585 [20:33] <FLHerne> ThomQ: have fun
#2586 [20:34] <mibbit1> FLHerne: any way to provide a local override?
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#2589 [20:34] <FLHerne> No idea. Haven't heard of one :-(
#2590 [20:35] <mibbit1> bummer.
#2591 [20:35] <lutzee> er anyway, elsmith might have hit the 5 day limit and could only explore the world
#2592 [20:35] <mibbit1> oh yeah, xpaw says that skins are down. shucks.
#2593 [20:35] <lutzee> mibbit1: you can change the skin file in the minecraft.jar but this won't show to other people
#2594 [20:35] <lutzee> only to you
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#2596 [20:36] <mibbit1> lutzee: i just need it for filming, so that'll do just fine. thanks!
#2597 [20:36] <mibbit1> lutzee: i just need it for filming, so that'll do just fine. thanks!
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#2600 [20:42] <Ogredude> ok I found a bunch of really cool stuff on multi-destination minecart routing systems
#2601 [20:43] <Ogredude> and a minecart dispenser that's completely badass. http://youtu.be/vfJ-qK-SFt0
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#2604 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Minecart PEZ dispenser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG-xUBgXK4I
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#2609 [20:59] <l23cooleel> umm
#2610 [20:59] <l23cooleel> WHY CANT I SPEAK IN #MINECRAFT!?
#2611 [20:59] <DiskDaemon> ?? irc
#2612 [20:59] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#2613 [20:59] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
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#2616 [21:00] <l23cooleel> oooh ok thx VoxelHead
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#2621 [21:04] <mibbit1> the default character skin mob/char.png in minecraft.jar, right?
#2622 [21:04] <mibbit1> i changed that and it didn't change anything ingame.
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#2624 [21:08] <mibbit1> oh, it's in the current skin, too.
#2625 [21:08] <mibbit1> oh, it's in the current skin, too.
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#2629 [21:14] <zebra77788> hi can somebody help me
#2630 [21:15] <zebra77788> i can't place an iem
#2631 [21:15] <zebra77788> in my singleplayer game
#2632 [21:15] <zebra77788> item
#2633 [21:15] <zebra77788> i have a mac and im in creative mode
#2634 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a right mouse button?
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#2638 [21:21] <downer> if you dont. get one.
#2639 [21:22] <downer> oh bye
#2640 [21:22] <downer> haha
#2641 [21:22] <downer> or remap
#2642 [21:22] <downer> yo
#2643 [21:22] <downer> i dont understand what is going on with skins
#2644 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Skin servers that store the player skins are having problems
#2645 [21:23] <downer> yeah i get that
#2646 [21:23] <downer> what i dont get is why it works in 1.2.5, but not 1.3.x
#2647 [21:24] <downer> yet its the servers having the problems
#2648 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, couldn't tell you.
#2649 [21:40] <FLHerne> downer: Perhaps 1.2.5 still uses the old servers?
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#2651 [21:42] <D3C0D3R> This may be very out of place, but could anyone enlighten me on how to fix the 1.3.2 server skins issue if it's even fixable?
#2652 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> It is not fixable from your end
#2653 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> It's an issue with Mojang's skin servers
#2654 [21:43] <D3C0D3R> Okay, is there an ETA on when they'll have that fixed?
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#2656 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> They haven't said anything.
#2657 [21:44] <D3C0D3R> Okay.. but htey have acknoledged that it's an issue?
#2658 [21:44] <D3C0D3R> *acknowledged
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#2660 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/675623-my-minecraft-skin-is-gone
#2661 [21:44] <D3C0D3R> Thanks
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#2681 [22:19] <wen1010> i used a sever on another computer and can't remember what sever i used
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#2687 [22:24] <brundog> my minecraft is sooooooo freaking glithchy!!
#2688 [22:25] <PermissionDenied> wow, that was very helpful
#2689 [22:25] <PermissionDenied> please tell us more
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#2691 [22:26] <brundog> when im playing the game the cursor moves really slow
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#2725 [23:08] <Kanegasi> its so quiet in here
#2726 [23:08] * Kanegasi runs off before any accusations of jinxing
#2726 [23:09] <Dream_Rider> lol
#2727 [23:09] <Scroaty> anyone here like wrenched??
#2728 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> In a troubleshooting situation, quiet is good
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#2734 [23:18] <leader4JC> why won't my minecraft show up? it's just a black screen
#2735 [23:19] <Kanegasi> is your video drivers up to date? what is your java version?
#2736 [23:19] <leader4JC> my java just says java 32 bit
#2737 [23:20] <leader4JC> and idk about the video drivers
#2738 [23:20] <Kanegasi> ??> leader4JC win/dxdiag
#2739 [23:20] <VoxelHead> leader4JC: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2740 [23:20] <VoxelHead> leader4JC: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2741 [23:21] <leader4JC> what?
#2742 [23:21] <Kanegasi> follow voxelhead's instructions
#2743 [23:23] <Kanegasi> oh wow, lutzee is voiced
#2744 [23:23] <Kanegasi> grats
#2745 [23:24] <leader4JC> I did,nt understand any of that
#2746 [23:24] <Kanegasi> what part?
#2747 [23:24] <leader4JC> any of it
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#2749 [23:25] <Kanegasi> are you familiar with the windows key?
#2750 [23:25] <leader4JC> is it the thing with the little flag?
#2751 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> ??> leader4JC win/key
#2752 [23:25] <VoxelHead> leader4JC: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2753 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> ??> leader4JC win/key/image
#2754 [23:25] <VoxelHead> leader4JC: (win/key/image) WARNING: May not appear exactly as shown. http://daily-grind.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Windows-Key-722215.jpg
#2755 [23:26] <Kanegasi> when you press the windows key and R together, a box shows up. follow voxelhead's first instructions from there
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#2757 [23:27] <Kanegasi> omg
#2758 [23:28] <Kanegasi> yes, ill take "what is a computer?" for $200 please
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#2762 [23:35] <Dream_Rider> lmao Kanegasi
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#2765 [23:41] <nsbruno5> I just downloaded Mniecraft and there is a slow response time between when I use the mouse and keyboard to when something happens on the screen - what do you think is going on?
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#2768 [23:48] <adrien> hello i need help!!
#2769 [23:48] <adrien> i need to open the port :3
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#2771 [23:49] <adrien> i've done everything im suposed to, but apparently i cant forward the port 25565
#2772 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> www.portforward.com
#2773 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> Would you like a few more details?
#2774 [23:49] <adrien> well, only one
#2775 [23:49] <adrien> that website says i need to forward the same port twice
#2776 [23:50] <adrien> is that correct? cause my router wont let me
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#2778 [23:50] <DiskDaemon> What is the make/model of your router?
#2779 [23:50] <adrien> motorola sgb900
#2780 [23:51] <DiskDaemon> Full details should be on http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Motorola/SBG900/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2781 [23:51] <adrien> well yeah but..
#2782 [23:51] <adrien> that website says "entry1" and "entry2"
#2783 [23:51] <nsbruno5> Is there a tech support number that I can contact?
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#2785 [23:52] <adrien> but both are the same and my router wont let me do that
#2786 [23:53] <Guest9407> nsbruno5: there is not
#2787 [23:53] <DiskDaemon> nsbruno5: What support do you require?
#2788 [23:54] <nsbruno5> the response time between when I use the mouse and or keyboard and the action on the screen is slow/delayed. What are some things that cause this?
#2789 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> adrien: Two entries are required if TCP and UDP are specified separately. If your router forwards both TCP and UDP at the same time for an entry, then just one is needed
#2790 [23:54] <adrien> ohhh ok, i'll try that
#2791 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> no idea
#2792 [23:55] <Guest9407> Graphical lag can occur with dated gpus, or a computer that does not meet the minimum requirements of minecraft
#2793 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> nsbruno5: You might be able to get some ideas on what could be the cause though, at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/151-minecraft-game-client-support/
#2794 [23:55] <adrien> wait my router just has the option "custom" and that website says it has to be that option in both entries
#2795 [23:56] <Guest9407> It can also occur if you have cinematic smoothing turned on
#2796 [23:56] <Guest9407> Forgot which function key did that.
#2797 [23:56] <nsbruno5> You beat me to the my next question
#2798 [23:59] <adrien> well, what should i do? if i put the same information of that website, my router doesnt let me
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