#1 [00:00] <adrien> it says Overlapped port range 25565:25565 with port range 25565:25565 of Name1
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#3 [00:01] <DiskDaemon> adrien: Just use one then
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#7 [00:16] <adrien> thats what i do but apparently that's not working, and i dont know why
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#10 [00:17] <DiskDaemon> adrien: Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Be4ZszSRs
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#13 [00:19] <quiqk> Hi im having trouble buying a minecraft account
#14 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> What sort of trouble?
#15 [00:20] <quiqk> When i try to purchase it with my debit card, it tells me my card has now been locked for 24 hours
#16 [00:20] <quiqk> I create a new account with a new name and email and use a separate credit card and get the same answer
#17 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> Indeed - Moneybookers don't allow it to be used more often to help prevent fraud
#18 [00:21] <quiqk> Yes, but it was never allowed to be used, even once. They just immediately locked the card. Even when i tried on separate accounts with separate credit cards
#19 [00:22] <DiskDaemon> adrien: So it seems that you may need to add an entry to your router firewall, to allow it through too
#20 [00:22] <DiskDaemon> What type of card is it?
#21 [00:22] <quiqk> Mastercard
#22 [00:22] <DiskDaemon> quiqk: What type of credit card did you try to use?
#23 [00:22] <DiskDaemon> What type of mastercard?
#24 [00:23] <quiqk> Debit
#25 [00:23] <DiskDaemon> Is it one that the bank issued to you, or one that you purchased over the counter?
#26 [00:23] <quiqk> one the bank issued to me
#27 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> Okay - so the bank should have a record of the transaction that you attempted to make, right?
#28 [00:24] <adrien> i did, but i still cant connect
#29 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> Contact your bank about it
#30 [00:24] <quiqk> They wont have transaction attempts, they only have transactions
#31 [00:25] <quiqk> since no transaction was made, they will have no record of it.
#32 [00:25] <DiskDaemon> They do record pending and failed transactions too
#33 [00:25] <DiskDaemon> Or at least, pending and denied transactions
#34 [00:26] <quiqk> My online bank statement doesnt show anything like that. I guess I would have to personally go to my bank for that.
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#36 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> quiqk: You attempted the transaction earlier, and the attempt failed. Do you know why it failed?
#37 [00:27] <quiqk> It just told me that my card had been frozen. Which makes no sense. It is especially odd because i then changed accounts, and credit cards and got the same result.
#38 [00:28] <DiskDaemon> Mojang don't handle the transactions. They use Moneybookers to perform the transaction. Only when Moneybookers succeed with the transaction do they notify Mojang about things.
#39 [00:28] <DiskDaemon> Contact your bank about why it was frozen then
#40 [00:28] <DiskDaemon> Failing that, contact Moneybookers.
#41 [00:29] <quiqk> Are all transactions outside of paypal handled by moneybookers?
#42 [00:29] <DiskDaemon> correct
#43 [00:30] <quiqk> Okay, one more question. When i went to use the PayPal option, it was in another language. I am willing to try paypal if it is easier, but i dont understand why it is in another language.
#44 [00:31] <DiskDaemon> Nor do I
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#46 [00:32] <quiqk> Hmmm lol okay, well thank you for your help.
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#48 [00:33] <adrien> so... what should i do now ??? :3
#49 [00:34] <DiskDaemon> adrien: Have you tried using the program from portforward.com that automatically does the setting up for you?
#50 [00:34] <adrien> well... the thing is that... it is not free right? :P
#51 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> wrong
#52 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> The port checker program is http://portforward.com/help/portcheck.htm
#53 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> I mis-spoke - the pfconfig program that automatically sets things up is not free - the port checker program is free
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#55 [00:39] <marceddy> my skin is steve again and i am lagging a lot on servers
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#57 [00:40] <DiskDaemon> marceddy: Yes, there is a known issue with the skins servers
#58 [00:41] <marceddy> thank you is majong planning to fix it in the near futer
#59 [00:41] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#60 [00:42] <marceddy> thanks
#61 [00:43] <adrien> oh but its only for pc right? :/
#62 [00:44] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, it seems that the existing port forward checker doesn't want to install on windows 7. An earlier version of it does though, from http://portforward.com/store/back296/PFPortChecker1.0.39.exe
#63 [00:45] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#64 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> You can use http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ as an external test of your ports
#65 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> That assumes that you have something running that responds to the port being checked, and that a signal can get through too
#66 [00:47] <adrien> it says the port is closed
#67 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> That means there's no response from your side. Do you have a server running?
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#70 [00:52] <adrien> yes indeed i have
#71 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> Temporarily disable the firewalls (both router and computer) while testing, so that you can determine if one or the other is causing your problem. If you can then communicate, you know that some work needs to be done with one or both of them
#72 [00:55] <adrien> ok ill try
#73 [00:58] <adrien> nope it says its closed
#74 [00:58] <Ogredude> hot freakin damn
#75 [00:59] <Ogredude> I need to mine more gold, ran out of powered rail
#76 [00:59] <Ogredude> but the rail system at least carries carts with people, and it'll carry chest carts back to the Citadel. http://d.pr/i/qzHF
#77 [01:00] <DiskDaemon> Then it seems that further work needs to be done. Either with setting up the router, or with configuring the server
#78 [01:00] <DiskDaemon> adrien: I would help further, but I have to head off now
#79 [01:00] <adrien> awww ok u_u
#80 [01:01] <Ogredude> hey guys, thanks for the advice tonight. You've helped me successfully build a rail system that goes from the workroom at the mine to the mine face, or back to the Citadel, with the flip of a lever and press of a button.
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#82 [01:03] <Ogredude> I need to get screenshots of the Citadel
#83 [01:03] <Ogredude> but not tonight. *yawn*
#84 [01:03] <Ogredude> gnite folks!
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#86 [01:04] <Kanegasi> so, last week i asked why minecraft's sound gets bullied out of playing when pandora is up, but has no issue playing sound if started first, then pandora after. the openal files in my system32/syswow64 folders were outdated. not sure why that makes a difference, but i threw in the openal files from minecraft's natives folder into my system folders
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#88 [01:05] <Kanegasi> now minecraft plays sound just fine
#89 [01:06] <Kanegasi> it mightve been a java 64bit issue as well, since there was no openal64.dll in the system folders
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#91 [01:06] <Kanegasi> just a thought for any future sound issues people might have
#92 [01:06] <pattycakes> im trying to migrate my account
#93 [01:06] <pattycakes> and it says to many failed attemps
#94 [01:07] <pattycakes> *attempts
#95 [01:07] <pattycakes> anyway i can get that fixed
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#122 [02:38] <pasleieu> hi guys i need help!!
#123 [02:40] <pasleieu> There are currently issues with in-game skins (SMP)There are currently issues with in-game skins (SMP)There are currently issues with in-game skins (SMP)There are currently issues with in-game skins (SMP)There are currently issues with in-game skins (SMP)There are currently issues with in-game skins (SMP)There are currently issues with in-game skins (SMP)Ther
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#149 [04:44] <XcessBeats> hee
#150 [04:44] <XcessBeats> i have a qeustion
#151 [04:44] <XcessBeats> i cant see my skin or other skins..
#152 [04:44] <XcessBeats> who can help me?
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#176 [07:06] <Fran> Are there any servers that let you spawn mobs
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#199 [08:41] <loki966> ok when i log into the game it starts to load then the screen goes black any ides as to wyh
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#206 [09:22] <chris__> Hello, I just bought a new laptop that seems to be extremely fast and reliable; however, when playing minecraft, I find that it lags quite a bit....is there anything that i can do to improve/fix this?
#207 [09:23] <lutzee> first make sure graphics drivers are up to day
#208 [09:23] <lutzee> date*
#209 [09:24] <chris__> ok, and for someone that knows little about computers, any suggestions on how to go about doing that?
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#211 [09:25] <lutzee> Do you know what graphics chipset is in the laptop?
#212 [09:27] <chris__> looking
#213 [09:29] <downer> chris__, since you're playing on a laptop your best bet to update that graphics driver is by going to the manufacturers website of that laptop
#214 [09:30] <chris__> ok cool, this is what i believe i have....Discrete Video 2G, L250X, Quad Channel card
#215 [09:30] <chris__> no idea if that's it or not
#216 [09:31] <downer> again chris__, go to the website of the people who made the laptop
#217 [09:31] <downer> not the video card
#218 [09:32] <chris__> yes, it's a refurbished Dell, i'm headed to their website now, thanks so much for your help
#219 [09:32] <downer> i've run into issues with certain ati cards that have minor differences from manufacturer to manufacturer but carry the same model number
#220 [09:34] <chris__> ok great, thanks so much for pointing me in the right direction, I'm on DELL's website now
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#222 [09:40] <mibbit> hi
#223 [09:40] <mibbit> i have a question
#224 [09:41] <mibbit> about portforwarding
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#226 [09:42] <downer> what about port forwarding?
#227 [09:43] <mibbit> sry wait a sec k?
#228 [09:47] <Necrodoom> .
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#233 [10:10] <watnoufrank> i need help with my minecraft server
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#235 [10:12] <lutzee> What's the problem?
#236 [10:12] <watnoufrank> when i try to start my server it gives an error
#237 [10:13] <watnoufrank> [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#238 [10:13] <watnoufrank> adress already in use
#239 [10:13] <lutzee> watnoufrank: is there already a copy of the server running at all?
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#241 [10:13] <watnoufrank> no
#242 [10:13] <watnoufrank> not on my computer
#243 [10:14] <lutzee> open taskmanager and look under the processes tab for any process called java.exe and end it
#244 [10:14] <watnoufrank> k
#245 [10:15] <watnoufrank> only javaw.exe
#246 [10:15] <watnoufrank> end it?
#247 [10:16] <watnoufrank> end it or not?
#248 [10:16] <watnoufrank> hello you there?
#249 [10:16] <Calinou> ??> watnoufrank attitude
#250 [10:16] <VoxelHead> watnoufrank: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#251 [10:16] <VoxelHead> watnoufrank: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#252 [10:17] <watnoufrank> :)
#253 [10:17] <watnoufrank> k
#254 [10:17] <watnoufrank> but do i have to end javaw.exe
#255 [10:17] <Calinou> if you're running the minecraft client already; no, quit the game normally
#256 [10:18] <watnoufrank> no i do not
#257 [10:18] <watnoufrank> yes it works
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#261 [10:19] <watnoufrank> i have another question
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#263 [10:19] <watnoufrank> where do i have to fill in the ip
#264 [10:22] <Calinou> what ip?
#265 [10:22] <Calinou> you MUST keep server-ip empty in server.properties
#266 [10:22] <watnoufrank> for people to join
#267 [10:22] <Calinou> else it will not work
#268 [10:22] <Calinou> you can find your external ip here: http://youripis.org
#269 [10:23] <Calinou> you connect to your own server with "127.0.0.1"
#270 [10:23] <watnoufrank> i already know that ip
#271 [10:23] <watnoufrank> how do i let people join?
#272 [10:25] <watnoufrank> and why to i have to keep server-ip empty
#273 [10:26] <watnoufrank> calinou?
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#275 [10:27] <Calinou> you have to keep server-ip empty because you are not running multiple network interfaces
#276 [10:27] <Calinou> if you want to let people join you have to forward ports; we do not assist in forwarding ports, please see google or such instead
#277 [10:27] <watnoufrank> i already did
#278 [10:28] <watnoufrank> after i portforwarded what happens then?
#279 [10:30] <lutzee> you give people your external IP and they can connect
#280 [10:30] <lutzee> !check 212-182-163-114.ip.telfort.nl
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#282 [10:31] <watnoufrank> owww
#283 [10:31] <watnoufrank> what now?
#284 [10:34] <watnoufrank> guys?
#285 [10:35] * lutzee is quite busy with something else
#285 [10:35] <watnoufrank> k sry
#286 [10:35] <watnoufrank> Can somebody else help me?
#287 [10:37] <watnoufrank> Can somebody help me with my server?
#288 [10:37] <watnoufrank> !check watnoufrank
#289 [10:37] <watnoufrank> !check 212.182.163.114
#290 [10:37] <watnoufrank> yes
#291 [10:38] <lutzee> Okay people should be able to connect over the internet if you give them that IP
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#298 [10:57] <zing_> paid for minecraft yesterday and when i go to download i am asked to enter user id and password so I do then it says i am not premium. How can i download what i just paid for?
#299 [10:57] <tikker> !paid zing_
#300 [10:57] <tikker> it can take some days
#301 [10:57] <tikker> 3 to 5 days max
#302 [10:57] <m0nk> !paid m0nk3n
#303 [10:57] <tikker> after that, contact mojang
#304 [10:57] <m0nk> !paid m0nk3n
#305 [10:57] <m0nk> :D
#306 [10:57] <m0nk> !paid lulz
#307 [10:57] <m0nk> !paid lolalot
#308 [10:58] <tikker> zing_ http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#309 [10:58] <m0nk> !paid lolalot
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#313 [11:11] <mr_sticky> hi
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#315 [11:14] <mr_sticky> i'm trying to play the demo but having no luck it says downloading then it just stopes
#316 [11:14] <SupaGamer> Can I have have some help when minecraft get on to gameplay, after some time it closes and I get a text file that looks like this:http://mibpaste.com/t7esfD
#317 [11:14] <mr_sticky> i want to try the game to see if i want to uy
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#319 [11:16] <Ogredude> heya folks!
#320 [11:17] <SupaGamer> @mr_sticky I have a simalar problem with the in browser version. Out of intrest, what browser are you using?
#321 [11:17] <Ogredude> I don't really understand the version numbering system. I'm reading articles that are out of date that are for version 1.8.x, and I'm on the current version which is 1.3.2, how does this work?
#322 [11:17] <Necrodoom> Ogredude: when minecraft moved from alpha to beta, and from beta to release
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#324 [11:17] <Necrodoom> Ogredude: version goes back to 1.0.0
#325 [11:18] <mr_sticky> firefox
#326 [11:18] <SupaGamer> Also can anyone help me with my proplem?
#327 [11:18] <Ogredude> Necrodoom: oh, I see. Because that's not confusing at all. Thanks!
#328 [11:18] <Necrodoom> Ogredude: is that sarcasm?
#329 [11:19] <Ogredude> Necrodoom: You detected it successfully! Congrats! So few these days have that capability.
#330 [11:19] <mr_sticky> is minecraft down or is the game up and runing
#331 [11:19] <SupaGamer> @mr_sticky I'm using ie. So it's not a browser problem...
#332 [11:19] <Ogredude> Necrodoom: but seriously, that cleared up all the confusion I had about the version numbers. I thought I was losing my mind
#333 [11:20] <lutzee> ??> mr_sticky demo
#334 [11:20] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (demo) You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
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#336 [11:22] <mr_sticky> that is the one i'm trying not werking
#337 [11:22] <mr_sticky> working lol
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#339 [11:23] <SupaGamer> @mr_sticky If your talking about me, it works fine until I get in to gameplay, after a short time in gamplay, it closes it self then this appers as a text file:http://mibpaste.com/t7esfD
#340 [11:23] <Ogredude> hey does the world timer stop or keep going when nobody's connected to the server?
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#342 [11:24] <lutzee> All chunks get unloaded apart from at spawn
#343 [11:24] <SupaGamer> ...well?
#344 [11:24] <lutzee> but worlticks don't occuree
#345 [11:24] <Ogredude> SupaGamer: I was getting that at first, too. Are you running a 64-bit OS? If so, are you running the 64-bit Java runtime? If you're running 32-bit java on 64-bit windows, it's going to cause some major problems.
#346 [11:24] <Ogredude> lutzee: thanks!
#347 [11:25] <Ogredude> lutzee: so if I understand that correctly, no time passes in the world when nobody's connected to the server.
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#349 [11:25] <Necrodoom> Ogredude: yep
#350 [11:25] <Ogredude> which would explain why the wheat we planted last night isn't ripe yet.
#351 [11:25] <SupaGamer> I dont think i'm using a 64bit OS, the text file i posted (bottom)
#352 [11:26] <Necrodoom> Ogredude: thats not world timer, actually, thats the chunks not being loaded
#353 [11:26] <Necrodoom> no growth occurs in unloaded chunks
#354 [11:26] <SupaGamer> I mean CHECK the text file I posted. (The bottom of it)
#355 [11:27] <Ogredude> ahhhh
#356 [11:27] <SupaGamer> ...well?
#357 [11:27] <Ogredude> you've only got 512MB RAM in your machine?
#358 [11:28] <SupaGamer> are you talking to me?
#359 [11:28] <Ogredude> SupaGamer: yes, I am
#360 [11:28] <lutzee> Er the time of day does change
#361 [11:28] <SupaGamer> I dont know
#362 [11:28] <lutzee> but stuff like wheat growing doesn't
#363 [11:29] <Ogredude> SupaGamer: press Windows + Pause/Break at the same time, that'll bring up the System Properties. You can see how much ram you have from there.
#364 [11:29] <Necrodoom> lutzee: so the world timer does run
#365 [11:30] <lutzee> Necrodoom: yes days will pass by, but no "world ticks" occur so wheat/trees don't grow furnaces don't smelt
#366 [11:30] <Necrodoom> so chunks dont load
#367 [11:31] <Necrodoom> pretty much
#368 [11:31] <Ogredude> SupaGamer: according to the system requirements, you need at least 2GB to properly run Minecraft. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
#369 [11:31] <Ogredude> 512MB is only barely enough to run Windows.
#370 [11:31] <Necrodoom> i see mojang went from too low to too high
#371 [11:31] <Necrodoom> on the RAM
#372 [11:32] <SupaGamer> cant open system propetes
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#374 [11:34] <Ogredude> SupaGamer: alternate way is to right-click the "My Computer" icon, either in the start menu or the desktop, and choose "Properties"
#375 [11:34] <Ogredude> well IMHO 1GB is minimum requirement to run XP
#376 [11:34] <Ogredude> 512MB is just not enough
#377 [11:35] <Calinou> 512MB runs XP just fine, but not 7... blame m$
#378 [11:35] <Calinou> 1GB can run minecraft contrary to common belief on some OSes (mainly)
#379 [11:35] <Calinou> s/(mainly)//
#380 [11:36] <mr_sticky> ok now it sayes updating minecraft done loading then freezes
#381 [11:36] <SupaGamer> Cant find RAM on system propetes
#382 [11:37] <SupaGamer> hang on asec
#383 [11:37] <Boreeas> Calinou: Don't blame microsoft, blame modern operating systems
#384 [11:37] <Boreeas> And 64bit operating systems
#385 [11:38] <Calinou> most linux distros use less ram than windows
#386 [11:38] <SupaGamer> Im using xp sp3, don't know if its 32 or 64 bit
#387 [11:38] <Ogredude> Calinou: yeah, 512 runs XP just fine... But if you want to run any programs in XP, watch out!
#388 [11:38] <Boreeas> Yeah, but even Unix operating systems are using more and more ram
#389 [11:38] <Calinou> Ogredude, any programs that aren't minecraft run just fine
#390 [11:39] <Ogredude> SupaGamer: either way, that 0xc0000005 access violation means that Java has tried to use memory that doesn't exist. Most likely because your computer doesn't have enough of it.
#391 [11:39] <Ogredude> Calinou: for certain values of "just fine" :)
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#393 [11:39] <Ogredude> let's just say it's a good thing LEDs don't burn out when you blink them a lot, or your HDD LED would be fried within weeks.
#394 [11:39] <SupaGamer> I DONT KNOW IF MY LAPTOP HAS THAT MUCH RAM!!!
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#398 [11:40] <lutzee> ??> SupaGamer win/dxdiag
#399 [11:40] <VoxelHead> SupaGamer: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#400 [11:40] <VoxelHead> SupaGamer: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#401 [11:40] <Ogredude> oooh, laptop. It could be video card too
#402 [11:41] <SupaGamer> no, that is not the issue.
#403 [11:41] <mr_sticky> i'm runing windos 7 sp1 8gig ram 64 bit opreating system what eles do i need to rou this game
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#405 [11:41] <ThomQ> Hi all
#406 [11:42] <ThomQ> mr Sticky: do you have 64bit java installed? That's what tripped me up yesterday
#407 [11:43] <mr_sticky> i have java vergin 7 if it is 64 dont know
#408 [11:44] <ThomQ> Im trying to pimp my graphics. I found OptiFine the 1.3.2 version.. What are some other good mods?
#409 [11:44] <lutzee> SupaGamer: that ill tell us how much ram is in your pc -.-
#410 [11:47] <mr_sticky> ok were but i find if i have java 32 or 64 bit
#411 [11:48] <ThomQ> sticky: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#412 [11:48] <SupaGamer> Pastebin says its too large, and yes my ram is what you think.
#413 [11:48] <ThomQ> install the 64bit version, it can run side by side with a 32bit
#414 [11:49] <ThomQ> but, where is a good place to check out mods? On minecraftforum.net I can only find WIP mods and Content Packs
#415 [11:50] <SupaGamer> any more help?
#416 [11:51] <lutzee> ThomQ: if you want a great look, loot at sonic ethers unbelievable shaders
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#418 [11:51] <ThomQ> lutzee: yeah I found v10, but I can't seem to find an install tut
#419 [11:52] <ThomQ> I see here though that there are many different mod sites? Is there a main one I should go to? Something like skyrimnexus.com
#420 [11:52] <SupaGamer> @ThomQ: not a site, but GameChap/Bertie have made lots of mod related videos...
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#422 [11:52] <SupaGamer> any help for me?
#423 [11:53] <Calinou> ThomQ, try texture packs such as misa's pack
#424 [11:54] <SupaGamer> No help for me?
#425 [11:54] <ThomQ> cool, thanks.. Making a list :D
#426 [11:54] <lutzee> ThomQ: look on youtube
#427 [11:55] <SupaGamer> Why is no one helping me?
#428 [11:55] <ThomQ> :D what's your problem, I came in to late
#429 [11:56] <SupaGamer> Copy: Can I have have some help when minecraft get on to gameplay, after some time it closes and I get a text file that looks like this:http://mibpaste.com/t7esfD
#430 [11:56] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Oh, you're back :D
#431 [11:56] <Calinou> SupaGamer, get a new computer with more RAM
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#433 [11:56] <Calinou> 512MB isn't enough
#434 [11:56] <ThomQ> I am correct that most install of mods has to do with installing stuff in the .jar file?
#435 [11:57] <lutzee> SupaGamer: try using paste.ubuntu.com or pastie.com
#436 [11:57] <ThomQ> FLHerne, good afternoon :D
#437 [11:57] <SupaGamer> @Calindou I am not Impressed by your sergestion...
#438 [11:57] <FLHerne> ThomQ: To you, too :-)
#439 [11:58] <Calinou> calinou, not calindou :)
#440 [11:58] <Calinou> ??> SupaGamer attitude
#441 [11:58] <VoxelHead> SupaGamer: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#442 [11:58] <VoxelHead> SupaGamer: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
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#444 [11:58] <FLHerne> ThomQ: If using FML (?) there are some you can just put in a 'mods' folder
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#446 [11:58] <mr_sticky> ok instaled windows offline 64 bit java still not working should i restart now
#447 [11:58] <Calinou> we can't offer you hardware upgrades unfortunately; if that laptop ever had enough RAM to run it, it wouldn't run well (slow CPU/GPU)
#448 [11:58] <Calinou> FML is Forge Mod Loader
#449 [11:59] <NukeMiner> how can you recover your password here? I don't remember my password D:
#450 [11:59] <ThomQ> Ahh, ok thanks. I'll start with that then. I got a feeling i'll be installing/uninstalling quite a few :P
#451 [11:59] <FLHerne> Calinou: I know what it is, just couldn't remember if it was that one that allowed such installation ;-)
#452 [12:00] <ThomQ> After pimping my graphics, I'm going to make those creepers vulnerable to sunlight.. Damn how much I hate those
#453 [12:00] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Nooo! That's all part of the fun! :D
#454 [12:00] <SupaGamer> Any ram expanders that would work with Dell latitude D610 laptops? (If there such a thing as RAM expanders...)
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#457 [12:01] <FLHerne> SupaGamer: It might be possible to install more RAM, but the GPU and CPU would still be far too slow
#458 [12:01] <ThomQ> :P Ok.. Ill just stick to some nice shaders, shadows, anti aliasing and asinofiltering
#459 [12:01] <SupaGamer> How?
#460 [12:02] <ThomQ> lol FML has had 4 updates in the last 24 hours
#461 [12:02] <ThomQ> I like that
#462 [12:02] <FLHerne> SupaGamer: As I said, it would be pointless for Minecraft anyway.
#463 [12:03] <SupaGamer> Oh, any other options?
#464 [12:03] <FLHerne> But you'd need to obtain DDR2 laptop memory and install it in the slots (probably under a cover underneath)
#465 [12:03] <FLHerne> Wouldn't do much good for MC, but might be helpful for other things
#466 [12:04] <SupaGamer> @FLHerne not much use for me then...
#467 [12:04] <FLHerne> TBH - there's not much you can do to upgrade laptops, especially Dell ones. All the parts are non-standard and/or soldered in :-(
#468 [12:05] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Have you looked at Buildcraft and/or IC2? Then you can effectively play a totally different game :-)
#469 [12:06] <ThomQ> Nope, what are those?
#470 [12:06] <SupaGamer> More options?
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#472 [12:07] <ThomQ> Minecraft forge is just for multiplayer, right?
#473 [12:07] <jassie19> hello
#474 [12:07] <jassie19> wie kan mij hepen
#475 [12:07] <jassie19> wie kan mij hepen
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#477 [12:07] <jassie19> plz
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#479 [12:08] <jassie19> plz
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#481 [12:08] <FLHerne> ThomQ: They add pipes, automated mining gear, solar power, mining lasers, jetpacks... :D
#482 [12:08] <SupaGamer> might as well leave, look other chances...
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#484 [12:09] <FLHerne> SupaGamer: Not really much you can do. There's no way to get MC to run acceptably on that laptop :-(
#485 [12:09] <Morrolan> But I want to play Minecraft on the C64 my grandma gifted to me yesterday! :(
#486 [12:09] <ThomQ> lol!
#487 [12:10] <FLHerne> Morrolan: I've tried running it on a 133MHz PPC laptop. Don't work :-(
#488 [12:10] <Morrolan> Haha.
#489 [12:10] <FLHerne> First computer I tried to play seriously on was a 2GHz P4, that was barely playable ;-)
#490 [12:11] <Morrolan> Yea, it's not too light on the resources. :)
#491 [12:11] <FLHerne> Could certainly be more optimised :P
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#493 [12:13] <ThomQ> Ok, just to be clear. You have server mod loaders and client modloaders. Server mod's are mod's on the server, thus for everyone who plays on that. Client mods are juts for your own client, correct?
#494 [12:15] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Many (all?) server mods need the clients to have a client version of that mod ;-)
#495 [12:16] <ThomQ> yeah, exactly. No just to be clear, have only modded single player games so far
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#497 [12:21] <ThomQ> got FML in the minecraft.jar. What's supposed to happen though? An option to install mods in the game?
#498 [12:22] <lutzee> ThomQ: any mods that use a loader can be loaded form a folder
#499 [12:22] <lutzee> you don' see any difference with a modloader installed ingame until you add a mod
#500 [12:22] <ThomQ> and I can set that folder somewhere in a config file?
#501 [12:23] <lutzee> ThomQ: its a default folder that gets added called mods
#502 [12:24] <ThomQ> ahh.. Inside .minecraft?
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#504 [12:25] <JosheyDavey1> Hi everyone ive got a problem with loading my game up
#505 [12:25] <JosheyDavey1> It keeps saying that my loading screen is done when it isnt
#506 [12:25] <JosheyDavey1> it freezes and then ripples
#507 [12:26] <JosheyDavey1> Anyone help?
#508 [12:26] <lutzee> ThomQ: yes
#509 [12:26] <lutzee> JosheyDavey1: trying to play the demo?
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#512 [12:28] <JosheyDavey1> Sorry about that
#513 [12:28] <JosheyDavey1> http://webchat.esper.net/?channels=minecrafthelp# no im playing with my own account
#514 [12:29] <ThomQ> got it working.. It says 1 mod loaded, 1 mod active though?
#515 [12:29] <ThomQ> Is it talking about itself?
#516 [12:29] <ThomQ> Is it talking about itself?
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#518 [12:29] <JosheyDavey1> Lutzee you there?
#519 [12:30] <Calinou> JosheyDavey1, if you use AVG disable the link scanner module
#520 [12:30] <JosheyDavey1> @lutzee no im playing my own account wont let me load it up keeps freezing at the done loading and i dont have avg i used to not anymore though
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#522 [12:30] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Quite possibly :P
#523 [12:30] <pheleas_frog> if i buy prem is it a one time pament
#524 [12:31] <lutzee> pheleas_frog: yes it is
#525 [12:31] <FLHerne> pheleas_frog: Yes
#526 [12:31] <pheleas_frog> thanks
#527 [12:31] <JosheyDavey1> Now it says done loading and freezes there i dont use avg !!!
#528 [12:32] <JosheyDavey1> its annoying been going on for ages
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#530 [12:32] <lutzee> force updater
#531 [12:32] <lutzee> force update*
#532 [12:32] <JosheyDavey1> I have and deleted it and redownloaded
#533 [12:32] <JosheyDavey1> used %appdata% code aswell
#534 [12:33] <JosheyDavey1> When i try to load up technic it says minecraft cant authorise the account
#535 [12:33] <lutzee> ...
#536 [12:33] <lutzee> We can't account for 3rd party launchers
#537 [12:33] <lutzee> /mods
#538 [12:33] <JosheyDavey1> Its paid for and everything
#539 [12:33] <JosheyDavey1> but the main game though
#540 [12:33] <JosheyDavey1> any idea how i can get onto it?
#541 [12:34] <FLHerne> JosheyDavey1: When did you pay for it? There can be a delay sometimes
#542 [12:34] <JosheyDavey1> march x]
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#544 [12:35] <JosheyDavey1> it loads it up and logs me into the website but doesn't let me get into the main screen
#545 [12:35] <ThomQ> Nice, Optifne and FML installed
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#547 [12:36] <JosheyDavey1> any idea whats wrong with it
#548 [12:37] <JosheyDavey1> ?
#549 [12:38] <FLHerne> JosheyDavey1: Not yet... :-(
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#551 [12:38] <JosheyDavey1> aww my friend looked through my files in june and said there shouldnt be any problem loading it up he tried to log in and it said he couldnt either
#552 [12:42] <FLHerne> JosheyDavey1: Using Windows?
#553 [12:44] <JosheyDavey1> yeh windows 7
#554 [12:45] <JosheyDavey1> i5 processor
#555 [12:45] <pheleas_frog> i have the same problem says done loding and freeze
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#557 [12:46] <JosheyDavey1> Yeh
#558 [12:46] <FLHerne> Have you tried running it from a console and checking the output?
#559 [12:46] <JosheyDavey1> What do you mean
#560 [12:46] * FLHerne looks up how to do that on Windows - more of a linux user ;-)
#560 [12:47] <JosheyDavey1> ;]
#561 [12:47] <pheleas_frog> it worked find 2 days ago
#562 [12:48] <JosheyDavey1> any idea anyone else?
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#564 [12:49] <FLHerne> If you run cmd.exe, then use that to start minecraft, it might give you some useful errors :P
#565 [12:49] <Calinou> high five for linux user
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#568 [12:51] <FLHerne> Calinou: :D . It would be so much easier to solve people's problems if everyone was one ;-)
#569 [12:51] <JosheyDavey1> lol
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#571 [12:51] <JosheyDavey1> nope didnt work
#572 [12:52] <FLHerne> JosheyDavey1: In what way didn't it work? :P
#573 [12:52] <JosheyDavey1> it just went black on the launcher and didnt do anything?
#574 [12:52] <ThomQ> 1.3.2 is just a bug fix right? So i can follow mod install for 1.3.1 tutorials?
#575 [12:53] <FLHerne> JosheyDavey1: :-( No useful errors output to the prompt?
#576 [12:53] <JosheyDavey1> do you have teamviewer
#577 [12:53] <JosheyDavey1> ?
#578 [12:54] <FLHerne> Nope :P
#579 [12:54] <JosheyDavey1> can you get it and you show me what to do x]
#580 [12:54] <FLHerne> Might as well :-) . There's even a linux client :-)
#581 [12:55] <JosheyDavey1> lol
#582 [12:56] <ThomQ> Every tutorial I find on Sonic Ethers shaders point me to this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/120261-131-glsl-shaders-dof-bump-mapping-waving-wheat-dynamic-shadows-and-more/
#583 [12:56] <pheleas_frog> ya even if you try the demo on the site it does the same thing
#584 [12:56] <ThomQ> But, the installer for that keeps failing -> prob because its for 1.3.1, so I read
#585 [12:58] <JosheyDavey1> do you have it ?
#586 [12:59] <FLHerne> I have teamviewer now ;-)
#587 [12:59] <JosheyDavey1> Ok
#588 [12:59] <JosheyDavey1> 104 276 400
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#591 [12:59] <JosheyDavey1> theres my id
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#593 [13:00] <JosheyDavey1> 5005
#594 [13:00] <FLHerne> It works :-)
#595 [13:00] <FLHerne> That was probably an incredibly insecure way to transfer your details, though :P
#596 [13:02] * Morrolan sighs
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#602 [13:07] <pheleas_frog> if any one has a fix as to why the game wont start not even the demo will work any one
#603 [13:07] <leila> Hello all! Just something to add to your knowledge base. Apparantly the default openjdk 6 jdk on ubuntu 12.04 is not working nicely when unix clients connect to the server. Installing the sun-jdk resoves that issue. Thanks again for the help.
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#605 [13:09] <lutzee> leila: we yeah, ubuntu doesn't like openJDK
#606 [13:09] <lutzee> er*
#607 [13:10] <Calinou> works fine for me
#608 [13:10] <Calinou> but anyway: meh, ubuntu
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#610 [13:11] <leila> Calinou: I agree, but it is what amazon had to offer in the free tier ;)
#611 [13:11] <leila> none of the pcs in house actually work properly with any version of ubuntu (including mint). Likely due to grub2 not liking the mobo's or such.
#612 [13:12] <Calinou> blame UEFI
#613 [13:13] <JosheyDavey1> Hey guys this is the error that appears
#614 [13:13] <JosheyDavey1> C:\Users\Josh!!\AppData\Roaming>cd .minecraft\bin C:\Users\Josh!!\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin>java -jar minecraft.jar Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/lwjgl/LWJGLExcept ion at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredMethods0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.privateGetDeclaredMethods(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Class.getMethod0(Unknown Source) at java.lang.
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#616 [13:14] <leila> wrong java version ? that seems the most likely cause
#617 [13:15] <JosheyDavey1> Can you link me the right java?
#618 [13:15] <leila> no I can not not.
#619 [13:16] <FLHerne> FYI, I'm using Sun java 6 for my client ;-)
#620 [13:16] <Calinou> sun's java is often faster, +1
#621 [13:16] <FLHerne> But then the Tekkit server insists on 7 :P
#622 [13:17] <FLHerne> And I have some things that need 5, and 1 for OJDK only...
#623 [13:17] <JosheyDavey1> Can you link it Herne
#624 [13:17] <FLHerne> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u35-downloads-1836473.html should do
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#626 [13:19] <FLHerne> Oh, and don't assume I know much about Windows, because I don't :P
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#628 [13:19] <hagib> Hello
#629 [13:19] <hagib> Need help
#630 [13:19] <FLHerne> hagib: With what?
#631 [13:20] <ThomQ> Well, after some extensive testing, I've come to the conclusion the Sonic shaders aren't fully compatible yet :(
#632 [13:20] <ThomQ> But,
#633 [13:20] <hagib> I have buy a Git Code for 10 Minutes but i don't have it ?
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#638 [13:20] <hagib> My Key doesn't come
#639 [13:20] <ThomQ> I can run Optfine on all extreme settngs at 70+ FPS
#640 [13:21] <hagib> Need help with Gift Key
#641 [13:21] <ThomQ> except for render distance, i got that on far +80
#642 [13:21] <Calinou> hagib, double-check the email and check your "spam" folder
#643 [13:22] <hagib> I did not receive e-mail
#644 [13:24] <FLHerne> hagib: What payment method did you use?
#645 [13:24] <hagib> EC Card
#646 [13:25] <FLHerne> Nothing that should cause a delay then :-(
#647 [13:26] <ThomQ> what creatures can get through a dirt wall?
#648 [13:26] <JosheyDavey1> nope its froze again
#649 [13:26] <hagib> Will I still get my key?
#650 [13:26] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Nothing can go "through" a dirt wall :P
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#652 [13:27] <FLHerne> Endermen can dismantle them, creepers and ghasts can blow them up, spiders can climb over.
#653 [13:27] <hagib> Will I still get my key?
#654 [13:28] <FLHerne> hagib: I don't know. Seems that no-one else here does either :-(
#655 [13:29] <hagib> So maybe my money is gone?
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#658 [13:29] <hagib> So maybe my money is gone?
#659 [13:29] <FLHerne> hagib: Unlikey.
#660 [13:30] <FLHerne> Probably they either haven't billed you for some reason, or there's a delay fr some reason
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#662 [13:31] <hagib> Okay, I should wait
#663 [13:31] <FLHerne> If you have been billed and you don't get a code in a reasonable time, you should contact Mojang directly ;-)
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#665 [13:31] <lutzee> And if you don't get billed contact your bank and ask why
#666 [13:31] <lutzee> it will be them blocking the payment
#667 [13:33] <hagib> How do I contact Mojang directly
#668 [13:33] <Morrolan> Only bother if you've tried all other posibilities, e.g. contacting bank and credit card provider.
#669 [13:34] <Morrolan> Since it'll take ~two months to get an answer.
#670 [13:34] <Morrolan> And, in most cases, they're not the ones responsible for payment issues.
#671 [13:35] <hagib> So the money is gone. .. .
#672 [13:35] <FLHerne> Morrolan: Months!? :o
#673 [13:35] <Morrolan> hagib: No?
#674 [13:35] <Morrolan> FLHerne: Mhm.
#675 [13:36] <Morrolan> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#676 [13:36] <Morrolan> Let's put it that way: They haven't caught up, recently.
#677 [13:36] <hagib> there i cant find a answer
#678 [13:36] <Morrolan> Actually, it's closing in on three months. ^.^
#679 [13:36] <lutzee> Infact, if you have been debited and you aren't premium it would be better to contact moneybookers and ask why
#680 [13:36] <Morrolan> That link wasn't for you, hagib.
#681 [13:36] <hagib> Oh
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#683 [13:37] <FLHerne> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new ?
#684 [13:38] <Morrolan> Would be the form to send them a mail, yea.
#685 [13:38] <Morrolan> But, contact bank and credit card provider, as well as moneybookers / PayPal first.
#686 [13:38] <Morrolan> Especially international transfers tend to get blocked in the US.
#687 [13:38] <pheleas_frog> some banks dont allow over seas chargen on a debit card you will have to call your bank to artherise the transaction
#688 [13:39] <Morrolan> Indeed, that is the most common cause.
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#695 [13:48] <ThomQ> N00b question: How do I get hearts?
#696 [13:48] <ThomQ> and another one: If I die, I respawn somewhere randomly in the same map right? But necesarily where I just was?
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#698 [13:49] <Cookie> Hearts come back on their own if your hunger is at 90% or above. You can't increase maximum hearts past 10
#699 [13:49] <Cookie> Alternatively, you heal constantly on Peaceful difficulty
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#701 [13:50] <ThomQ> okok.. So i need to get food.. I thought that only at night zombies appeared? There are a few outside with bows and arrows
#702 [13:50] <Cookie> As for respawning, each world has a spawn point. That's where you started when you first created the world, and that's where you reappear. If you use a bed, your spawn point changes to there. :)
#703 [13:50] <FLHerne> ThomQ: You sapwn in the same place you did when you first started
#704 [13:50] <Morrolan> ThomQ: As long as zombies / skeletons don't stand in daylight, they'll survive.
#705 [13:50] <ThomQ> Cool, I build the house close to there
#706 [13:50] <FLHerne> Ah, someone else said that first. :-(
#707 [13:50] <Cookie> Oh, skeletons only appear in dark places, but they may take some time to disappear if they find somewhere to hide from the sun.
#708 [13:51] <Morrolan> However, in bright daylight they'll incinerate. :)
#709 [13:51] <ThomQ> ahh alright then! Ill go on a food expedition then
#710 [13:51] <Cookie> You're best off avoiding skeletons until you get some iron armour/an iron sword. :P
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#712 [13:51] <FLHerne> Except if they're in water ;-)
#713 [13:51] <FLHerne> Which is a bit irritating
#714 [13:51] <ThomQ> :P
#715 [13:51] <Cookie> I hate fighting skeletons in water =_=
#716 [13:51] <ThomQ> I must say, havent had this much fun with a game since I played Skyrim last fall
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#720 [13:54] <ThomQ> chicken.. Kill it, or keep it?
#721 [13:54] <Morrolan> They're spies, kill them. :D
#722 [13:54] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Probably kill it for the moment
#723 [13:54] <FLHerne> Might be tasty ;-)
#724 [13:55] <FLHerne> You could get some wheat, find another one and start breeding them :P
#725 [13:55] <ThomQ> Can I eat it raw? :P
#726 [13:55] <Morrolan> You can, but it tends to make you sick.
#727 [13:55] <Morrolan> It won't kill you, though, unlike raw chicken in RL. ;)
#728 [13:55] <FLHerne> Aaah, I was about to say that too :-(
#729 [13:55] <ThomQ> i should put it in the furnace?
#730 [13:55] <FLHerne> Yes
#731 [13:56] <FLHerne> Then you'll have some nice roast chicken :D
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#733 [13:56] <ThomQ> It did the trick! :D Time for massive amounts of wood
#734 [13:57] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Gigantic wooden palace thing? :P
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#737 [13:58] <ThomQ> heheh That, plus I want to have enough, just in case.. Already started a Mine, so im planning to go underground for a while soon
#738 [13:58] <ThomQ> prob get some more food
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#740 [13:59] <Morrolan> If you can get your hands on some melon seeds, melons are a great source of food. :)
#741 [13:59] <ThomQ> im not going to stray to far though, in case I get lost
#742 [13:59] <qwertytrains> Wait
#743 [13:59] <qwertytrains> Umm do you have the stuff to craft a map
#744 [14:00] <ThomQ> ahhh, lots of Chickens and eggs! :D
#745 [14:00] <ThomQ> there are maps?
#746 [14:00] <qwertytrains> That could help you
#747 [14:00] <qwertytrains> Yes in full
#748 [14:00] <qwertytrains> Or a compass
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#750 [14:00] <qwertytrains> That will direct
#751 [14:00] <qwertytrains> You to your last slept in bed
#752 [14:01] <ThomQ> Ahh nice
#753 [14:01] <ThomQ> Cool, im in my house. Im going to make a Bed, Map and Compass
#754 [14:01] <qwertytrains> Or a map puts the centre where you first created that map
#755 [14:01] <qwertytrains> Umm
#756 [14:01] <qwertytrains> I don't hardly play in survival though
#757 [14:01] <FLHerne> ThomQ: You'll need restone for a map. Probably don't have any yet :P
#758 [14:02] <qwertytrains> So I don't know how to make them
#759 [14:02] <qwertytrains> =)
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#761 [14:02] <Ruudiluca> My pistons are stuck. >_>
#762 [14:02] <FLHerne> Also for a compass, because you need those to make a map
#763 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> redstone? I thought you just need paper and a compa.. aaaah, right
#764 [14:02] <Ruudiluca> Whenever I activate them, they stay in the 'on' position and won't turn off.
#765 [14:02] <Ruudiluca> Even with the redstone off
#766 [14:02] <qwertytrains> And don't you need gold for compass
#767 [14:02] <qwertytrains> Umm
#768 [14:03] <FLHerne> Redstone surrounded with 4 iron for a compass, compass with 8 paper for a map ;-)
#769 [14:03] <qwertytrains> Oh =)
#770 [14:03] <ThomQ> ahhh.. ok, got stone and wood.. Ill just make a bed :P
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#772 [14:03] <ThomQ> Wool...
#773 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> gold is for watches IIRC
#774 [14:03] <qwertytrains> You don't use stone
#775 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> and powered rails
#776 [14:03] <FLHerne> Paper's made from sugarcane, wool's made from sheep :P
#777 [14:04] <qwertytrains> Do you mean wool
#778 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> does it do anything else useful yet? ICR.
#779 [14:04] <ThomQ> lol, ok.. So I really need a indoor Barn or something :P
#780 [14:05] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Fences should do for keeping animals in ;-)
#781 [14:05] <ThomQ> they arnt eaten by the zombies?
#782 [14:05] <qwertytrains> And make a gate
#783 [14:05] <FLHerne> Stick some torches on the fences to stop the monsters spawning :P
#784 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> ThomQ: not if the pasture is well-lit
#785 [14:05] <qwertytrains> To get in
#786 [14:05] <ThomQ> hahaha sick
#787 [14:06] <FLHerne> And no, wolves eat sheep (and chickens?) but nothing else does AFAIK
#788 [14:06] <ThomQ> ok, well. For everything I want to do, I'd first need Iron.. Start digging! :P
#789 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> inside/outside has nothing do do with whether monsters spawn. it's all about light and dark
#790 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> inside/outside has nothing do do with whether monsters spawn. it's all about light and dark
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#792 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> in fact, since inside tends to be darker, there are generally more baddies inside than out.
#793 [14:07] <FLHerne> DopeGhoti: Yeah, but if the lit area isn't enclosed, they just walk in from outside :P
#794 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> FLHerne: that's what the pressure-plate-released magma flood si for.
#795 [14:07] <ThomQ> shoud I have a door to my mine entrance?
#796 [14:07] <ThomQ> in case I stumble on a cave with Baddies, etc?
#797 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> ThomQ: you can never have too many security measures.
#798 [14:08] <Morrolan> That is, once every free block is taken up by a trap or a door, you might have too many.
#799 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> also, ProTip: Use torchsign as you explore caves
#800 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> (When placing torches, put them on the wall so that they lean toward the path to the exit; that way you can always find your way back out)
#801 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: that's not too many security measures; that's just too high a security density rating.
#802 [14:09] <ThomQ> ahh yeah, thanks
#803 [14:09] <ThomQ> I do hear some strange sounds here, underground
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#806 [14:10] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Fine, fine.
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#810 [14:15] <ThomQ> Im taking a little dinner break.. Its quite nerve wrecking if you're a n00b :D
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#814 [14:19] <bella3> heyy
#815 [14:19] <bella3> is there anyone here?
#816 [14:19] <bella3> :/
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#818 [14:19] <bella3> FREAKIN AWNSER
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#820 [14:20] <bella3> FREAKIN AWNSER i need help >:(
#821 [14:20] <lutzee> ask your question...
#822 [14:20] <bella3> Okay im trying to register to the minecraft.com site
#823 [14:20] <lutzee> and be patient not everyone concentrates on the chat every second
#824 [14:21] <lutzee> bella3: the minecraft website is minecraft.net
#825 [14:21] <bella3> but then when i type my email in it
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#827 [14:21] <bella3> it says i cant use it or sumthing
#828 [14:21] <bella3> its a error
#829 [14:21] <Morrolan> You are trying to register on www.minecraft.NET, right?
#830 [14:21] <bella3> And its anoying cos i wana play the demo :(
#831 [14:21] <bella3> yesh
#832 [14:22] <Morrolan> Okay. What is the exact error you get?
#833 [14:22] <bella3> wait ill do it again and ill retype what i get there in here be back in a sec
#834 [14:24] <bella3> wtf????
#835 [14:24] <bella3> i have typed in my email
#836 [14:24] <bella3> but then it says its already in use :S
#837 [14:24] <bella3> but it didnt say that it was beening sent when
#838 [14:24] <bella3> i was registering
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#846 [14:50] <bezaban> anyone know a good general topic modder support channel on here?
#847 [14:50] <bezaban> on here = esper, but any net will do. And by general I mean general mc..
#848 [14:50] <lutzee> #risucraft (full of trolls though)
#849 [14:51] <bezaban> oh yeah, visited there earlier, but forgot. Thanks :)
#850 [14:51] <NinjaKirby> Whta's in MCP Modding?
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#852 [14:52] <NinjaKirby> No typo's there, it's a new modern word, Whta the hell, Whta you say.
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#854 [14:52] <NinjaKirby> Pronounced, "WATTAH!"
#855 [14:52] <NinjaKirby> Or more, "WUTTAH"
#856 [14:53] <bezaban> and I'll just have to fight off the trolls. Wish september would end, but that's asking too much.
#857 [14:55] <Morrolan> It's no bad channel if you know what you're talking about.
#858 [14:55] <bezaban> joined and saw a sensible discussion going on :)
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#863 [15:02] <Vivid> Hello all, so is this the Minecraft help area?
#864 [15:02] <cmpric> I have been waiting days for my confirmation email in order to activate my account. when will I get?
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#866 [15:03] <Vivid> items from mods show up in my craft menu, but when I click to create them the item flashes into a slot but instantly vanishes, how do i fix this?
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#868 [15:07] <Morrolan> Vivid: Assuming that vanilla items work, you'll have to poke the mod's author about that, he's the only one who can help.
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#873 [15:15] <Vivid> I've actually looked it up, I need to figure out how to run mods on my LAN server. Even though the items are in the .jar file the server it's self doesn't recognize the items.
#874 [15:15] <Vivid> Thanks though Morrolan
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#883 [15:25] <ThomQ> Is there a Minecraft casual chat as well by the way?
#884 [15:26] <Eddie> #minecraft is generally known as #offtopic
#885 [15:26] <ThomQ> ahh ok :)
#886 [15:28] * macer1 is now known as :macer1|away
#887 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> Which is not to say that you cannot talk about Minecraft here.. Just don't expect that others will be all day, every day.
#888 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> s/here/there/
#889 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> !topic -1
#890 [15:33] <Morrolan> Skins still bugged?
#891 [15:33] <Morrolan> Respectively the skin system.
#892 [15:37] <FLHerne> ThomQ: How's your mine going? :-)
#893 [15:37] <ThomQ> I'm just done cleaning my bathroom (Real Life) :P getting ready to start soon :)
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#895 [15:39] * FLHerne finds listening to other people playing minecraft interesting :D
#895 [15:40] <ThomQ> hehe
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#897 [15:41] <ThomQ> I can't wait till I get the hang of it a little bit.. Then I'll invite some friends for a good old Lan :D
#898 [15:42] <rymate1234> Minecraft ftw
#899 [15:43] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Try LAN Tekkit :D
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#901 [15:44] <ThomQ> Tekkit? Whats that?
#902 [15:45] <FLHerne> ThomQ: probably one of the best multiplayer-compatible modpacks ;-)
#903 [15:45] <FLHerne> http://www.technicpack.net/tekkit/
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#905 [15:46] <chrislad1998> why
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#907 [15:46] <rymate1234> Why what.
#908 [15:46] <rymate1234> Where
#909 [15:46] <rymate1234> Who
#910 [15:46] <rymate1234> How
#911 [15:47] <chrislad1998> why does my verification email come throught i made my account yesterday?
#912 [15:47] <chrislad1998> not come through
#913 [15:47] <Morrolan> Junk folder?
#914 [15:47] <ThomQ> hahaha that tekkit trailer
#915 [15:47] <ThomQ> awesome
#916 [15:48] <ThomQ> Cool cool cool
#917 [15:48] <chrislad1998> hello
#918 [15:48] <ThomQ> hi!
#919 [15:48] <chrislad1998> can you help me
#920 [15:48] <Morrolan> Did you check the junk folder?
#921 [15:48] <FLHerne> ThomQ: You should watch this series by the Yogscast :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtMim1O_2SQ
#922 [15:48] <chrislad1998> hes it was not there
#923 [15:49] <chrislad1998> yes
#924 [15:49] <chrislad1998> it just deletes it auto maticaly
#925 [15:49] <ThomQ> FLHerne: it looks Sweet! :D
#926 [15:50] <chrislad1998> seen it
#927 [15:50] <ThomQ> is there a seamless glass mod outthere? that's the only thing I'd change visually
#928 [15:50] <FLHerne> ThomQ: texturepacks :P
#929 [15:50] <FLHerne> ThomQ: texturepacks :P
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#931 [15:51] <FLHerne> http://www.planetminecraft.com/resources/texture_packs/?order=order_popularity
#932 [15:51] <ThomQ> Those sonic shaders didn't work properly for me. I read the maker is working on a 1.3.2 version, with more support for NVIDIA cards
#933 [15:52] <ThomQ> Ahh thanks. Finally, a decent mod site
#934 [15:53] <FLHerne> Textures over 16x16 will need Optifine or similar, but you said you already installed that :P
#935 [15:56] <ThomQ> Yeah, got that ready
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#939 [15:59] <Kanegasi> wait, i thought vanilla minecraft can handle 32x32?
#940 [15:59] <lutzee> Kanegasi: in theory yes,
#941 [15:59] <Kanegasi> i do believe i used one before and it worked fine
#942 [16:01] <FLHerne> Kanegasi: Ah, ok. Missed that :P
#943 [16:01] <ThomQ> haha thanks for the yogscast
#944 [16:02] <FLHerne> They're permanently hilarious :D
#945 [16:02] <lutzee> That's a matter of opinion :p
#946 [16:03] <FLHerne> Especially the bits where they blow parts of the factory up by mistake :D
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#948 [16:04] <ThomQ> their inventory looks cool
#949 [16:04] <Kanegasi> i watched them before, but to be honest, they got a bit boring. nothing really new.
#950 [16:04] <lutzee> They are just big kids in my opinion, they aren't really that funny
#951 [16:05] * lutzee prefers adult humor
#951 [16:05] <FLHerne> Useless as a guide to playing minecraft :P
#952 [16:05] <ThomQ> I bought minecraft based off this Lets Play http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si_3MCt0bAU
#953 [16:05] <ThomQ> but yeah JonTron & PBG is not adult humor either :P
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#957 [16:12] <chrislad1998> can some one help me
#958 [16:13] <chrislad1998> hello
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#960 [16:14] <chrislad1998> hello
#961 [16:14] <lutzee> ?? ask
#962 [16:14] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#963 [16:14] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#965 [16:14] <chrislad1998> can some one help me
#966 [16:14] <ThomQ> Im underground in my mine, I hear like a clanking noise coming from the right.. What the hell is that?
#967 [16:15] <FLHerne> chrislad1998: With what?
#968 [16:15] <ty_> can i bye minecraft on a disk
#969 [16:15] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Skellies can clank sometimes
#970 [16:15] <chrislad1998> why is my verification email come through
#971 [16:15] <FLHerne> Probably one of those in a cave ;-)
#972 [16:15] <ThomQ> Ahhh, cool :D
#973 [16:16] <chrislad1998> not come through
#974 [16:16] <FLHerne> chrislad1998: What payment did you use? Did you enter the right address? Have you checked spam filters etc?
#975 [16:17] <chrislad1998> what is that
#976 [16:17] <chrislad1998> it is on my hotmail
#977 [16:18] <chrislad1998> how long does it take for it to come through
#978 [16:18] <ty_> can i buy minecraft on disk
#979 [16:18] <lutzee> It could take 24 hours
#980 [16:19] <lutzee> ty_: no it's a download game
#981 [16:19] <FLHerne> Should be quite quick. If not, and you're sure you filled in the form right, it's probably been eaten by something :P
#982 [16:19] <lutzee> ty_: you need an internet connection to install the game
#983 [16:19] <chrislad1998> it has been more than 24 hours
#984 [16:19] <ty_> thanks
#985 [16:19] <lutzee> chrislad1998: check your junk mail
#986 [16:19] <chrislad1998> i have
#987 [16:19] <chrislad1998> its not there
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#989 [16:20] <chrislad1998> it just keeps on saying You don't have junk here (hooray!)—Microsoft SmartScreen is working to keep it out of your inbox, too.
#990 [16:20] <FLHerne> chrislad1998: Have you tried registering again with the same username?
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#992 [16:21] <chrislad1998> i will do it know
#993 [16:21] <FLHerne> If it worked properly the first time, it shouldn't let you...
#994 [16:22] <chrislad1998> it says that the user name is all ready in use
#995 [16:23] <lutzee> well of course it is
#996 [16:24] <chrislad1998> Your email has not yet been verified it keeps on saying
#997 [16:24] <FLHerne> lutzee: Well, if the registration form didn't get submitted properly...
#998 [16:24] <lutzee> Okay we can only assume that you put your email in incorrectly think of a new name, make sure you get the email correct
#999 [16:25] <chrislad1998> think of a name
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#1001 [16:27] <ThomQ> Is dirt useless? -> Should I toss it?
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#1003 [16:28] <lutzee> If you have like 40 stacks toss it
#1004 [16:28] <lutzee> but keep like 3-4 stacks
#1005 [16:28] <ThomQ> what can I use it for?
#1006 [16:28] <ThomQ> farming?
#1007 [16:29] <FLHerne> ThomQ: It's useful if you fall down a hole :P
#1008 [16:29] <ThomQ> heheh
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#1010 [16:29] <FLHerne> Or if a creeper blows up in front of your house and leaves an ugly crater
#1011 [16:30] <lutzee> ^
#1012 [16:30] <FLHerne> Or if you need to quickly place something to stand on while building :P
#1013 [16:30] <lutzee> Bane of every minecrafter
#1014 [16:30] <FLHerne> lutzee: It's worse when they blow up *inside* your house ;-)
#1015 [16:30] <lutzee> I don't let them get that close
#1016 [16:31] * lutzee covers a massive area around his house with torches
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#1018 [16:31] <chrislad1998> thank you so much for all of your help good bye and thank you again
#1019 [16:32] <FLHerne> chrislad1998: It's fine :-)
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#1021 [16:32] <chrislad1998> thanks i have made a new account
#1022 [16:32] <FLHerne> lutzee: I fence and torch my house now, but only because I got that wrong a few times :-(
#1023 [16:32] <ThomQ> Fiiiinialy, I found some coal
#1024 [16:33] <ThomQ> huh.. A bell rang, and a green 2 appears in my GUI.. Whats that?
#1025 [16:33] <ThomQ> its little green orbs or something
#1026 [16:34] <FLHerne> ThomQ: You gained a level ;-)
#1027 [16:34] <FLHerne> Mining coal gives you XP now :P
#1028 [16:34] <FLHerne> Which is gained as small green things, yes ;-)
#1029 [16:35] <ThomQ> ahh okok
#1030 [16:35] <ThomQ> Finally :P
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#1032 [16:35] <FLHerne> ThomQ: TBH, it's a bit useless for most things... :P
#1033 [16:35] <FLHerne> ThomQ: TBH, it's a bit useless for most things... :P
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#1035 [16:36] <lutzee> what you guys think of my sorting house dl.dropboc.com/u/73774243/minecraftpics/storeco.png
#1036 [16:36] <ThomQ> Yeahh. Iron!
#1037 [16:37] * Boreeas takes the enchantmaent table from FLHerne
#1037 [16:37] <lutzee> fail link >.>
#1038 [16:37] <lutzee> http:// dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/minecraftpics/storeco.png
#1039 [16:37] <lutzee> >.>
#1040 [16:37] <Boreeas> lutzee: Go copy those links
#1041 [16:37] <lutzee> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/minecraftpics/storeco.png
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#1043 [16:37] <lutzee> Boreeas: dropbox is breaking on mint >.>
#1044 [16:37] <Boreeas> lutzee: dropbox puburl <xyz>
#1045 [16:37] <Boreeas> lutzee: dropbox puburl <xyz>
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#1047 [16:38] <Boreeas> Ctrl+Shift+C
#1048 [16:38] <TheWeirdOne> i want to buy the game but i am wonder if I have 2 pc can i use the game on both?
#1049 [16:38] <FLHerne> TheWeirdOne: You can, yes
#1050 [16:39] <TheWeirdOne> can the game be open on both at the same time?
#1051 [16:39] <FLHerne> They both need to be able to connect to the authentication server at least once; after that it doesn't matter
#1052 [16:39] <Selbram> err
#1053 [16:39] <Selbram> unless he wants to play on the same server
#1054 [16:39] <FLHerne> TheWeirdOne: Yes. You can't join the same MP game though
#1055 [16:40] <Selbram> he will need two accounts then
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#1057 [16:41] <FLHerne> Boreeas: Feel free. Enchanting annoys me. Doesn't fit in with Minecraft style :-(
#1058 [16:41] <TheWeirdOne> mianing i want to buy 1 account and play or help my son play and build in his world is this able to be done on 1 account? If not does it cost monthly fees to do so?
#1059 [16:42] <Selbram> you will need two accounts, no monthly fee
#1060 [16:42] <Selbram> one time fee for the account
#1061 [16:42] <ThomQ> how come I keep finding dirt Wayy down underground?
#1062 [16:43] <FLHerne> ThomQ: It just works that way. Probabilities :P
#1063 [16:43] <ThomQ> so its not a sign Im going to Pop Out a hillside somewhere?
#1064 [16:43] <FLHerne> ThomQ: It might be - you're more likely to find mud on the surface than anywhere else ;-)
#1065 [16:44] <FLHerne> But if you're not near the surface, probably not :P
#1066 [16:45] <FLHerne> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:PercentOfOreByHeight.png Is the idea, but doesn't show mud ;-)
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#1068 [16:45] <TheWeirdOne> my son's has a p4 pc running xp will the gameplay be laggy or sluggish?
#1069 [16:45] <lutzee> TheWeirdOne: yes quite so
#1070 [16:45] <FLHerne> TheWeirdOne: Quite likely
#1071 [16:46] <lutzee> I can garentee it i have a P4 PC myself
#1072 [16:46] <FLHerne> I hada a 2.2GHz P4, that was barely playable
#1073 [16:46] <lutzee> I can just about get 30fps with an extra graphics card, but the onboard graphics suck
#1074 [16:46] <lutzee> Mind you mine is also 2.8GHz hyperthreaded so OS load was spread a bit better
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#1076 [16:47] <TheWeirdOne> it does have ddr2 ram but that does help much ?
#1077 [16:47] <lutzee> Not really
#1078 [16:48] <lutzee> It's down to the fact that pentium 4 is 8-10 years old and modern day PC's will outpace a pentium 4 by a mile
#1079 [16:49] <FLHerne> TheWeirdOne: If it's a later one (3+GHz, hyperthreaded), then play might be acceptable?
#1080 [16:49] <FLHerne> DDR2 would imply it's not ancient?
#1081 [16:49] <lutzee> FLHerne: DDR2 is very old spec now to be fair
#1082 [16:50] <lutzee> there will be DDR4 soon
#1083 [16:50] <TheWeirdOne> it is a 3.62ghz pc
#1084 [16:50] <FLHerne> lutzee: Well, mine is DDR2, so I'm a little biases :P
#1085 [16:50] <lutzee> FLHerne: well mine is till tomorrow \o/
#1086 [16:50] <FLHerne> 3.62 not bad for a P4 ;-)
#1087 [16:51] * lutzee will be running this http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/e2Xx
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#1088 [16:51] <TheWeirdOne> it holds 4 gigs of ram
#1089 [16:51] <lutzee> 3.6GHz was the top spec P4
#1090 [16:51] <FLHerne> lutzee: I'm planning to replace the mobo/cpu in the next year or so, at the moment I have a 7770 coupled to 2.8GHz PD :P
#1091 [16:51] <lutzee> TheWeirdOne: you will only use about 3.4Gb of that ram due to the limitations of a 32bit operating system, theres nothing that can be done
#1092 [16:52] <lutzee> FLHerne: that screams bottleneck :p
#1093 [16:53] <FLHerne> lutzee: Very much so ;-) I decided I had to get a new GPU sometime, so I might as well get it ASAP and get more use from it...
#1094 [16:53] <TheWeirdOne> man that sucks i just bought a cheap pc to get my son off of mione and and it looks like he will be coming back on lol
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#1096 [16:53] <FLHerne> TheWeirdOne: Well, you might as well give it a try :-)
#1097 [16:53] <Selbram> give it a try anyway, it might be " good enough"
#1098 [16:54] <lutzee> TheWeirdOne: the point with "cheap" is that they are either old or infact "cheap and unreliable"
#1099 [16:54] <TheWeirdOne> pos always are good enough lol
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#1101 [16:54] <Selbram> :)
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#1103 [16:55] <TheWeirdOne> thanks alot for your help it has been very educational goodbye
#1104 [16:55] <lutzee> TheWeirdOne: it's a shame you paid now, it is very easy to build a decent PC for $400
#1105 [16:56] <TheWeirdOne> it was only a $100.00 pc not a ripe off by long i build this pc for 1164.00 and it is cool
#1106 [16:56] <FLHerne> TheWeirdOne: Bye, have fun :-)
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#1110 [16:59] <lutzee> ahh well, at least i can look forward to tomorrow
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#1114 [17:02] <Aisrael7> hey guys when i dwonload minecraft for the Mac OS X it says the file is damaged and cant be opened
#1115 [17:03] <FLHerne> Aisrael7: The .zip?
#1116 [17:04] <Aisrael7> im not sure. its just when it downloads and i try to unpack it it gives me Minecraft is damaged and cant be opened.
#1117 [17:04] <Aisrael7> Then says i should move it to the trash
#1118 [17:04] <lutzee> ??> Aisrael7 mac/gatekeeper
#1119 [17:04] <VoxelHead> Aisrael7: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1120 [17:06] <Aisrael7> wow thank you its working now! have a great day!
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#1122 [17:07] <ThomQ> Finally! I found a cave! :D
#1123 [17:07] <ThomQ> uhhh,, Therse a tall guy here
#1124 [17:07] <ThomQ> with purple sparks
#1125 [17:07] <ThomQ> carrying a block of some sort
#1126 [17:07] <ThomQ> What should I do?
#1127 [17:08] <lutzee> don't look at him
#1128 [17:08] <lutzee> and run
#1129 [17:08] <lutzee> fast
#1130 [17:08] <ThomQ> :O
#1131 [17:08] <ThomQ> fuck
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#1134 [17:09] <ThomQ> What kind of creature was that?
#1135 [17:09] <ThomQ> And can it go through doors??
#1136 [17:09] <lutzee> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enderman
#1137 [17:09] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Enderman. They teleport annoyingly
#1138 [17:09] <ThomQ> so the door I put there isn't going to help me?
#1139 [17:09] <FLHerne> Also, they can pick up blocks and walk off with them, which is annoying :P
#1140 [17:10] <lutzee> ThomQ: they can't get into 2 block high passages though
#1141 [17:10] <FLHerne> ThomQ: They only teleport to you if they know you're there, IIRC
#1142 [17:10] <lutzee> because they are 3blocks tall
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#1144 [17:10] <ThomQ> how do i kill it? With my stone sword?
#1145 [17:10] <alsomeblaster100> I tried to download the mine craft file, get an error when i try to run it
#1146 [17:11] <alsomeblaster100> Minecraft is damaged and cant be open, you should move it to the Trash
#1147 [17:11] <alsomeblaster100> i am using a Mac
#1148 [17:11] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Yeah. They're awkward though, because they teleport away when you hit them
#1149 [17:11] <FLHerne> ??> Aisrael7 mac/gatekeeper
#1150 [17:11] <VoxelHead> Aisrael7: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1151 [17:11] <ThomQ> i got a lot of iron. im going to upgrade first:P
#1152 [17:12] <lutzee> ??>> alsomeblaster100 mac/gatekeeper
#1153 [17:12] <alsomeblaster100> thank you , let me try
#1154 [17:12] <FLHerne> Whoops, forgot that exactly copying from 2 minutes ago would leave the wrong username :P
#1155 [17:12] <FLHerne> *facepalm* :D
#1156 [17:12] <lutzee> FLHerne: tip, type a name and use tab to complete it :p
#1157 [17:12] <ThomQ> hmm iron ore with wood in furnace for iron?
#1158 [17:12] <lutzee> ThomQ: it's better to use coal
#1159 [17:12] <lutzee> As it will smelt exactly 8
#1160 [17:12] <ThomQ> Cool, thanks
#1161 [17:12] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Should work. Coal is rather more efficient in furnaces - cooks 8 blocks t a time
#1162 [17:13] <FLHerne> Aah, nanja's again :P
#1163 [17:13] <alsomeblaster100> thank you!!!!
#1164 [17:13] <alsomeblaster100> that worked
#1165 [17:13] <alsomeblaster100> glad i checked here, thanks again Amigo!
#1166 [17:14] <ThomQ> ok, so Im kinda surviving and thriving.. What's to do next? Should I just build amazing stuff? or are there other things to do in the world?
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#1168 [17:14] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Build a cool treehouse. Or make a map and go exploring. Or get a pet cat. Or...
#1169 [17:15] <FLHerne> It's a sandbox, do anything you want ;-)
#1170 [17:15] <ThomQ> hehe yeah ok.. :P
#1171 [17:15] * FLHerne likes walking for days in a straight line, camping in mushrooms :-)
#1171 [17:16] <FLHerne> The giant expanding ones ;-)
#1172 [17:16] <ThomQ> I can go to hell as well?
#1173 [17:16] <FLHerne> Yeah
#1174 [17:16] <FLHerne> If you get really fed up and like fighting things, the End can be rather challenging...
#1175 [17:17] <FLHerne> Nether Portals not so hard to make, you need 10 obsidian and a flint&steel
#1176 [17:17] <FLHerne> End portals rather harder to find
#1177 [17:17] <ThomQ> Pfff, havent found any of those
#1178 [17:17] <ThomQ> I decided Im going to make a chicken coop, connected to my house
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#1180 [17:18] <ToxicWaster> where to download older versions of minecraft? (for mods)
#1181 [17:19] <FLHerne> ToxicWaster: MCNostalgia
#1182 [17:20] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Then you could build a giant elevated minecart network :P
#1183 [17:20] <FLHerne> Those can be fun :D
#1184 [17:21] <ToxicWaster> i meant a clean version of the .jar
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#1186 [17:22] <ThomQ> hahaha Yup.. First I really need to hit the motherload on iron though. I could just make a helmet and a sword :(
#1187 [17:22] <FLHerne> ToxicWaster: Those aren't legally available
#1188 [17:23] <FLHerne> What you can do is use MCNostalgia to convert the current jar back into older versions
#1189 [17:24] <ToxicWaster> i already have 1.2.5 its i want to redownload it to remod it with updated mods and such
#1190 [17:25] <FLHerne> ToxicWaster: If you download a clean copy of 1.3.2, you can use MCNostalgi to make a clean 1.2.5 jar from it
#1191 [17:25] <ToxicWaster> hmm ill look into it
#1192 [17:25] <FLHerne> See http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-212-now-works-with-132/
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#1197 [17:31] <ThomQ> I think I found a creeper.. They explode right?
#1198 [17:31] <ThomQ> So I run? :P
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#1200 [17:32] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Indeed
#1201 [17:32] <FLHerne> Find some water, the muffle the BANG! :P
#1202 [17:32] <oldtopman> (If they explode in water, no landscape is damaged)
#1203 [17:33] <FLHerne> s/the m/to m/
#1204 [17:33] <FLHerne> Otherwise you get an ugly crater :P
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#1206 [17:34] <ThomQ> :P
#1207 [17:34] <FLHerne> If you hit it repeatedly with a sword while running backwards, that might work
#1208 [17:35] <FLHerne> Unless you walk backward into something and it blows up in your face :P
#1209 [17:35] <jj_> can i still play minecraft if i have a different processor
#1210 [17:35] <ThomQ> I ran, like a girl
#1211 [17:35] <FLHerne> Bows and arrows are best on creepers ;-)
#1212 [17:35] <FLHerne> jj_: Probably
#1213 [17:36] <FLHerne> Unless it's some really weird/useless one - there's no DRM problem
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#1215 [17:39] <cman2123321> how can i delete my account
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#1217 [17:41] <FLHerne> That was pointless ' _ '
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#1219 [17:41] <execution> hello
#1220 [17:41] <execution> can somone please give me some support?
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#1222 [17:42] <execution> *no 1 answers*
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#1224 [17:42] <execution> -.-
#1225 [17:43] <execution> anybody?
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#1227 [17:44] <FLHerne> Pointless again ' _ ' . Asking a question helps :P
#1228 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> You'll get used to it
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#1230 [17:46] <ThomQ> ok, enough for today
#1231 [17:46] <ThomQ> See yall later!
#1232 [17:46] * GreyVulpine waves
#1232 [17:47] <FLHerne> GreyVulpine: I've been lurking on other IRC for some time. The average Minecraft idiot seems far worse than anywhere else though :P
#1233 [17:47] <FLHerne> ThomQ: 'night
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#1235 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> FLHerne - We even have a bot that auto-notices a, "please state your question, instead of asking to ask" to everybody that joins
#1236 [17:48] * Contex is now known as :Contex|Away
#1237 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> And good luck when posting something important in the topic, like when the server(s) go down. Nobody reads it
#1238 [17:48] <FLHerne> GreyVulpine: Everyone ignores those, though :P
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#1240 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1241 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> It kinda gets pointless to answer "Yes, it's down. No, we don't know when it'll be back up" to the rush of people that join when it does go down.
#1242 [17:49] <FLHerne> Also, I can honestly say that Minecraft Forums has the highest ratio of trolls, whiny kids, idiots, OCD sufferers etc of any of the 20-odd forums I watch, by miles :o
#1243 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Even after putting it in the topic, as well as having multiple bots auto-notice on join, people will still ask
#1244 [17:49] <maeyrl> Are any of the Mojang Team Staff online? I would like to make a deal/offer with them.
#1245 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I can agree with you there. I stopped going to the forums a looong long time ago
#1246 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> maeyrl - There are none. Best way to get in contact with them is either through twitter, or possibly email
#1247 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Try tweeting @jeb_ or possibly @marc_irl
#1248 [17:50] <maeyrl> Ah. Where is Sacheverell? He is usually on these IRC chats/.
#1249 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Who?
#1250 [17:51] <maeyrl> The guy that does the minecraftforums.net front page news.
#1251 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Try #minecraftforums then
#1252 [17:51] <FLHerne> Nope, not on there :P
#1253 [17:51] <maeyrl> He is.
#1254 [17:51] <maeyrl> Thanks.
#1255 [17:51] <maeyrl> :).
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#1257 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#1258 [17:52] <FLHerne> Not on my user list :P
#1259 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> Opped
#1260 [17:52] <FLHerne> *facepalm* (again)
#1261 [17:52] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1261 [17:52] <FLHerne> Soz
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#1274 [18:09] <dhannhi88> i forgot my password n i reset it, but now i have to purchased it again , when i already had bought the game? i reset the password ............................
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#1276 [18:10] <zreilly26> I am having the issue "Connection timed out: connect" while trying to establish a multiplayer connection on a WLAN. How can I correct this?
#1277 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> zreilly26 - To what IP address?
#1278 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> dhannhi88 - Try writing up a support ticket to Mo
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#1280 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> er, Mojang
#1281 [18:11] <zreilly26> My friend's IP
#1282 [18:11] <zreilly26> It's DCHP
#1283 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> You can find the link to Mojang help site at http://help.mojang.com
#1284 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> zreilly26 - And the IP is?
#1285 [18:11] <zreilly26> 192.168.2.6
#1286 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> zreilly26 - Are you connecting from a different house, or the same house?
#1287 [18:12] <zreilly26> Same house.
#1288 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> zreilly26 - And what is your internal IP address?
#1289 [18:13] <dhannhi88> I RESET THE PASSWORD BUT HAD ALREADY PURCHASED THE GAME PREVIOUSLY I HAD TO VERIFIED MY EMAIL WITH THE NEW PASSWORD BUT NOW I CAN ONLY PLAY THE DEMO, WHEN I HAD ALREADY BOUGHT THE GAME WITH THTE PASSWROD I FORGOT???????//
#1290 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> dhannhi88 - Did you get the reset password email?
#1291 [18:14] <zreilly26> The big long one?
#1292 [18:14] <zreilly26> 192.168.2.5
#1293 [18:14] <dhannhi88> YES I CLICK THE LINK TO VERIFIED MY EMAIL WITH THE NEW PASSWORD OTHERWISE IT WOULD LET ME LOG IN AGAIN , IT SAID MY EMAIL HAD TO BE VERIFIED
#1294 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> zreilly26 - if your friend really is 192.168.2.6, then check his security software. It may be blocking it
#1295 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> dhannhi88 - Easy there, I can read your text just fine without the need for caps
#1296 [18:14] <FLHerne> dhannhi88: Your CapsLock key may be stuck ;-)
#1297 [18:14] <dhannhi88> SO I GOT THE LINK TO VERIFIED MY EMAIL AGAIN BUT I HAVE TO PURCHASE THE GAME AGAIN??
#1298 [18:15] <Boreeas> dhannhi88: No all-caps please
#1299 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> dhannhi88 - What is your minecraft username?
#1300 [18:15] <dhannhi88> its just frustating its for my little brother and his all into this game and with the economy like this
#1301 [18:16] <dhannhi88> i am not going to purchase the game again just because i reset the password
#1302 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> And we're community volunteers, who are neither employed by, nor paid by mojang.
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#1304 [18:16] <dhannhi88> dhannhi88 ***is my username
#1305 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> !paid dhannhi88
#1306 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> That account does not seem to be premium
#1307 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any other usernames that you may have used instead?
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#1309 [18:17] <dhannhi88> dhannhi
#1310 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> !paid dhannhi
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#1312 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> That account seems to be premium
#1313 [18:17] <zreilly26> I am having the issue "Connection timed out: connect" while trying to establish a multiplayer connection on a WLAN. How can I correct this?
#1314 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> zreilly26 - if your friend really is 192.168.2.6, then check his security software. It may be blocking it
#1315 [18:17] <zreilly26> I had to ask the question again because my cpu is going crazy.
#1316 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> dhannhi88 - Try doing a password reset with dhannhi instead of dhannhi88
#1317 [18:18] <zreilly26> And I'll ask him.
#1318 [18:18] <dhannhi88> so how do i go about this this do i reset a new password again
#1319 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> dhannhi88 - can I correct this?
#1320 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> [06:17.41pm] <@GreyVulpine> zreilly26 - if your friend
#1321 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> er
#1322 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1323 [18:19] <zreilly26> He said the firewall is doing fine with minecraft it's just that my cpu is having the problem.
#1324 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> He would be wrong
#1325 [18:19] <dhannhi88> okay they have sent me an email reset link to my email
#1326 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> dhannhi88 - then check your email
#1327 [18:19] <zreilly26> What do you mean by security settings then?
#1328 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> zreilly26 - A security software, namely a firewall that filters network connectivity can easily disrupt minecraft communications
#1329 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> other than that, make sure both you, and the server are running the same version
#1330 [18:22] <zreilly26> If you mean allowing minecraft to go through, then he already has that enabled.
#1331 [18:22] <zreilly26> He tried it on his and I tried it on mine. They should be the same version: 1.3.2
#1332 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> zreilly26 - Could you elaborate on what he's got set up as a rule to allow minecraft through?
#1333 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> What security software does he have? What does the rule he set, say?
#1334 [18:23] <dhannhi88> THANK YOU =)
#1335 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Try joining a different server, try reddit's server at s.nerd.nu
#1336 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> If that works, then it's something on his end
#1337 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> dhannhi88 - Welcome. Enjoy.
#1338 [18:24] <zreilly26> He has avast antivirus.
#1339 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Just an antivirus?
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#1343 [18:25] <zreilly26_> He's exploring his rules.
#1344 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Did you try connecting to s.nerd.nu?
#1345 [18:26] <zreilly26_> hang on, I'll attempt.
#1346 [18:26] <zreilly26_> Multiplayer connection, yes?
#1347 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1348 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Direct connect, put in: s.nerd.nu
#1349 [18:27] <dhannhi88> my little brother says that it works his not playing the demo anymore thanks n my bad the CAPS lock thanks for your help...................
#1350 [18:27] <zreilly26_> It is saying 'unknown host'
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#1352 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> zreilly26_ - s.nerd.nu ?
#1353 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're typing it in correctly
#1354 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> !check s.nerd.nu
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#1357 [18:29] <zreilly26> okay it said 'unknown host'
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#1359 [18:30] <zreilly26> he's gotta go somewhere so is there another way i can test the connection?
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#1366 [18:41] <Marowack21> It says failed to launch when I start minecraft
#1367 [18:41] <Marowack21> cananyonehelp?????
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#1374 [18:54] <curs3d0ne> I am having trouble with my minecraft account, I was palying on it this morning at 3am central and now it says login failed everytime i try to log in I also cant log into miencraft.net how can I fix this?
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#1376 [18:54] <NinjaKirby> !login
#1377 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Try resetting your password
#1378 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1379 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Try just using the same password.
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#1381 [18:55] <curs3d0ne> I bought the game a long time ago and dont have my email anymore.
#1382 [18:55] <curs3d0ne> so it is impossible to reset it
#1383 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that's not good.
#1384 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Then your only recourse is to contact Mojang, including your purchase details/transaction ID.
#1385 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1386 [18:55] <coolixs> why does my server lag for only one of my accounts ? can someone tell me why and how i can fix this
#1387 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's support ticket backlog is unfortunately, over 3 months
#1388 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> coolixs - Try deleting the profile data for that account on your server's world/players/ folder
#1389 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> This will reset the player's data, including inventory and location
#1390 [18:56] <curs3d0ne> I also have checked my Paypal email and history for any records of my id and are all to old and gone.
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#1392 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Then without access to the original email, and no proof of purchase left.. I don't know what else to recommend for you
#1393 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> There is nothing Mojang can do to verify that you're the original owner of that account
#1394 [18:58] <coolixs> how do i delete profile data for my account ?
#1395 [18:58] <curs3d0ne> Hmm, Well Ive spent tons of money on that account.
#1396 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> coolixs - Do you run the server yourself?
#1397 [18:58] <DiskDaemon> The problem is, how are mojang to differentiate you from another person who's trying to take over someone else's account?
#1398 [18:58] <coolixs> no
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#1400 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> coolixs - Then you'll need to contact the server's owner. They're the only one who can access the server's data for you
#1401 [18:58] <coolixs> ok thank you
#1402 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Tell them to delete yourplayername.dat from their world/players/ folder
#1403 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> This will reset your player inventory and world location.
#1404 [18:59] <coolixs> will it fix my lag ?
#1405 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> (as well as any possible player corruption that may be the cause of lag)
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#1407 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> Do you lag elsewhere? On any other servers?
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#1411 [19:00] <curs3d0ne> I have spent over 300 usd on my account ugh. Is there a number I can call / email?
#1412 [19:00] <coolixs> no just the one i play on i have another account and it doesnt lag at all
#1413 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> You can try contacting Mojang directly by filing a support ticket at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1414 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Mojang will ask the same things I've ask you here, either access to the original account, or proof of purchase in the form of a transaction ID
#1415 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Without either, Mojang will not transfer that account to you.
#1416 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> coolixs - Then yeah, contact the server's admin with the instructions I've told you.
#1417 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> coolixs - Then yeah, contact the server's admin with the instructions I've told you.
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#1419 [19:02] <curs3d0ne> Hmm well if thats the case then why purchase things from them if theres no other type of support ive had the account over 2 years ive already bought 2 new computers by then
#1420 [19:03] <curs3d0ne> if i had the id it would be on the original computer I have owned
#1421 [19:03] <curs3d0ne> wich is long gone.
#1422 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> What's to stop me from contacting Mojang and saying, "I lost my account, I don't have proof of purchase, and I don't have access to the email, but I'm insertnamehere. Really. Trust me!"
#1423 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> I never lie!
#1424 [19:03] <NinjaKirby> This reminds me of some of the ridiculous refund requests we get at work :/
#1425 [19:03] <curs3d0ne> I know i'm not mad I understand what you are saying.
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#1427 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Fortunately, I don't work for Mojang, so I can only imagine the support tickets they get.
#1428 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> But with countless years in tech support, I can make an educated guess.
#1429 [19:05] <curs3d0ne> You see I am tired of getting messed up over everyhting this is the second time. And also this isnt the only game im having troubles with.
#1430 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> NinjaKirby - Got any anecdotes you want to share?
#1431 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> curs3d0ne - I'm sorry, I don't really have anything else for you.
#1432 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to provide any other form of proof of purchase? Did you pay with a credit card?
#1433 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Is there a record from another financial institution that you used?
#1434 [19:07] <curs3d0ne> It's ok thanks for your advise. And yes I did pay with a credit card
#1435 [19:07] * Orc|afk is now known as :Orc
#1436 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Try calling them. Perhaps the transacation history on the credit card contained the paypal transaction ID
#1437 [19:08] <curs3d0ne> hmm, Ill give that a try.
#1438 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> At the very least, you can get a date of transaction, which you can then try emailing/contacting paypal for
#1439 [19:09] <curs3d0ne> I paid with paypal so in that case it has to be on record soemwhere.
#1440 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Gotta be.
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#1442 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Good luck.
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#1450 [19:19] <Fyrus> Ah
#1451 [19:20] <Fyrus> I still need help with the fatal error 4
#1452 [19:20] <Fyrus> Ugh, I think it might be my new wireless router
#1453 [19:20] <Fyrus> Can't imagine why though
#1454 [19:21] <Fyrus> Hm, hold on, i'll be right back
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#1457 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> Fourth Fatal Error of the Java 6th, 27th Block of Segment Gamma IV. Pretty serious business right there.
#1458 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> But we could take it out on the Router, a man's gotta vent.
#1459 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> But we could take it out on the Router, a man's gotta vent.
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#1461 [19:24] <NinjaKirby> Slightly more seriously though, if you are suspecting the Router, any Firmware updates for it from the manufacturer?
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#1463 [19:24] <Speedy> Is it possible to run a minecraft server on a thumb drive plugged into a computer,? like if I put the server stuff on there ,and the thumb drive has more memory
#1464 [19:24] <NinjaKirby> Or he Pinged out, at the One Hundred And Ninety Fourth Second.
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#1466 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> My initial suspicion is on the antivirus/security program. Temporarily disable that, and try again.
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#1469 [19:25] <Fyrus> Hm, that didn't work either
#1470 [19:26] <Fyrus> So, uh, what do I do here
#1471 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> Speedy: It's possible, but there may be speed issues due to the relative slowness of data access to thumb drives
#1472 [19:27] <lutzee> If you want an external storage device the best port for it would be E-sata
#1473 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> Fyrus: Do you get the same connection reset issue when you reboot in to safe mode + networking? If things go well there, it's definately some piece of software the machine was running that caused the issue
#1474 [19:27] <Speedy> Well the thumb drive has 4 gb, and my computer has 2gb, so my mc server is kinda slow already, So ok, imah try it anyway. xD
#1475 [19:28] <Fyrus> Disk, I'm in that right npw
#1476 [19:28] <Fyrus> now
#1477 [19:28] <Fyrus> Nothing.
#1478 [19:28] <Fyrus> So it's probably the router somehow
#1479 [19:28] <Fyrus> err, i WAS in that
#1480 [19:28] <Speedy> Thanks for the answer bye.
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#1482 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> Fyrus: Can we get a crash report when the connection reset occurs?
#1483 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
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#1485 [19:33] <coolixs> why am i getting this INTERNAL EXCEPTION JAVA.NET.SOCKETEXCEPTION SOFTWARE CAUSED CONNECTION ABORT RECV FAILED ?
#1486 [19:34] <Wug> coolixs: when does it happen
#1487 [19:34] <coolixs> on a server it lags me out then that shows
#1488 [19:35] <Wug> does it do this for all servers or just for one
#1489 [19:35] <Fyrus> Uh.
#1490 [19:35] <Fyrus> It says "java" is not recognized as an internal or external command
#1491 [19:35] <DiskDaemon> Well the reason why you're getting that message, is because your client count not maintain a connection with the server.
#1492 [19:35] <Fyrus> What the hell
#1493 [19:35] <coolixs> just this one
#1494 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> Fyrus: Let's replace java with "%ProgramFiles%/java/jre7/bin/java"
#1495 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> Fyrus: keep the quotes in there too
#1496 [19:36] <Fyrus> in command prompt or what method
#1497 [19:36] <coolixs> i tried to log in the same server with my other account and it doesnt lag
#1498 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> In command prompt
#1499 [19:37] <Fyrus> gah i can't copypaste it
#1500 [19:37] <Fyrus> Do i need to type it out?
#1501 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> The type it out.
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#1503 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> *Then
#1504 [19:38] <Wug> Fyrus: you can copy/paste, just right click
#1505 [19:38] <Wug> to copy, use mark, drag a selection, hit enter
#1506 [19:38] <Fyrus> Cannot find path specified
#1507 [19:38] <Fyrus> Does this mean I don't have Java or something
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#1509 [19:38] <Wug> also, to go back to a previously used command, use the up or down arrows
#1510 [19:38] <Wug> java's not in your path.
#1511 [19:39] <Wug> or you're trying to use the wrong version
#1512 [19:39] <DiskDaemon> Fyrus: Are you using a 64-bit operating system? If so, you need to install the 64-bit version of java http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#1513 [19:39] <Wug> DiskDaemon: are you on a 64 bit OS?
#1514 [19:39] <Fyrus> That might be the problem
#1515 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> I am
#1516 [19:40] <Wug> DiskDaemon: can you use the 64 bit manual download page to get 64 bit java
#1517 [19:40] <Wug> because I can't
#1518 [19:40] <Wug> not for windows
#1519 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> Via the link that says: Windows Offline (64-bit)
#1520 [19:41] <Wug> can you take a screenshot of it
#1521 [19:41] <Fyrus> Downloading now.
#1522 [19:41] <Fyrus> Uninstalled old version.
#1523 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> sure
#1524 [19:41] <Fyrus> Would not having the right java cause that error anyway?
#1525 [19:42] <Wug> Fyrus: you'll be able to run java programs with just "java ...." now
#1526 [19:42] <Fyrus> Ah
#1527 [19:42] <Fyrus> I meant would it cause my Minecraft error
#1528 [19:42] <Wug> no, that's probably a firewall
#1529 [19:43] <DiskDaemon> perhaps, we shall see
#1530 [19:43] <Wug> but you should have 64 bit anyway; minecraft does not perform well on 32 bit
#1531 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> Wug: Here's the screenshot, with the appropriate place circled, and arrowed http://i.imgur.com/ZaQaA.png
#1532 [19:45] <Wug> ok, it looks like theyve updated it
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#1534 [19:45] <Wug> I sent them a rather nasty feedback about that the other day :P
#1535 [19:45] <Fyrus> It seems to be missing a class?
#1536 [19:45] <Wug> I might send them another one apologizing since they evidently fixed it so fast
#1537 [19:45] <Fyrus> Oh shit, I was installing a mod, maybe I somehow messed it up
#1538 [19:46] * DiskDaemon headdesks
#1538 [19:46] <Wug> Fyrus: verify that it works with vanilla, then start with mods
#1539 [19:46] <Wug> also, we don't support mods
#1540 [19:46] <Wug> if you need help with a specific mod, you'd have to visit the mod thread.
#1541 [19:46] <DiskDaemon> good idea
#1542 [19:46] <Fyrus> Well, still not running right
#1543 [19:46] <Fyrus> Fatal Error 4 again
#1544 [19:46] <Wug> do you have avg
#1545 [19:47] <Fyrus> No, Norton, which is also terrible
#1546 [19:47] <Fyrus> Let me try something
#1547 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> Fyrus: We were working on getting a crash report?
#1548 [19:47] <Fyrus> Oh, right
#1549 [19:47] <Fyrus> "Error: Could not find or load main class cb.class."
#1550 [19:47] <gv> What is the full error 4 text?
#1551 [19:48] <Fyrus> "Fatal Error (4): Connection reset"
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#1553 [19:49] <Wug> Fyrus: if you're missing classes, start from scratch
#1554 [19:49] <Wug> you broke it with mods or something
#1555 [19:49] <Fyrus> Yeah, seems I did
#1556 [19:49] <Wug> redownload the launcher, and force update
#1557 [19:49] <Fyrus> Alright
#1558 [19:49] <DiskDaemon> Or even, reinstall
#1559 [19:49] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/reinst
#1560 [19:49] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1561 [19:50] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1563 [19:52] <Captainguzman> Please help me with message since I cannot load Minecraft, thanks A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ILLEGAL_INSTRUCTION_2 (0xc000001e) at pc=0x496a4928, pid=692, tid=168 # # JRE version: 7.0_07-b10 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (23.3-b01 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C 0x496a4928 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client
#1564 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> ??> Captainguzman pastebin
#1565 [19:53] <VoxelHead> Captainguzman: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1566 [19:53] <Fyrus> Still getting Fatal Error 4
#1567 [19:53] <Fyrus> I have disabled the firewall and everything
#1568 [19:54] <Fyrus> I have noticed a strange thing in my router, though
#1569 [19:54] <Fyrus> It says it's not connected to the internet
#1570 [19:54] <Fyrus> but i'm clearly on it
#1571 [19:54] <Fyrus> So uh, that's unusual
#1572 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> Fyrus: How are you doing on getting a crash report? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1573 [19:55] <Fyrus> when I do that, the prompt says "Could not find or load main class net.minecraft.client.Minecraft"
#1574 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> Fyrus: How far do you get when that happens?
#1575 [19:56] <Fyrus> That's the only thing it says.
#1576 [19:56] <Captainguzman> ok done
#1577 [19:57] <Wug> :tv > Fyrus
#1578 [19:57] <WugBot> Fyrus: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1579 [19:57] <WugBot> Fyrus: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1580 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> Fyrus: It seems that you may be having trouble with the launcher then. Delete the one that you have, and download a fresh version of minecraft.exe from minecraft.net
#1581 [19:58] <Wug> Fyrus: if you get teamviewer I'll have you sorted out before you can say cheesecake
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#1583 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> Fyrus: That's a generous offer - I'd take it :)
#1584 [19:59] <Wug> DiskDaemon: for the record, the troubleshooting launcher saves log files automaticallyu
#1585 [19:59] <Captainguzman> http://pastebin.com/yMz9pKkd
#1586 [20:00] <Wug> Captainguzman: that's only the first 10 lines of it
#1587 [20:00] <Wug> I'll need to see the whole thing
#1588 [20:00] <Wug> ctrl+a to select all
#1589 [20:00] <crayfish25> everythime i try to play in browser in crashes. what do i do to fix this?
#1590 [20:00] <DiskDaemon> Wug: Where do we record info on how to get the troubleshooting launcher?
#1591 [20:00] <Wug> crayfish25: is there some reason you want to play in browser and not on the downloaded client?
#1592 [20:01] <Wug> :ts/launcher > DiskDaemon
#1593 [20:01] <WugBot> DiskDaemon: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1594 [20:01] <WugBot> DiskDaemon: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#1595 [20:01] <Wug> its on my dropbox right now
#1596 [20:01] <Wug> I need a better place for it
#1597 [20:01] <crayfish25> i am not able to download anything on this computer
#1598 [20:01] <Wug> DiskDaemon: you should download it and see how it works
#1599 [20:01] <Captainguzman> Ok, Done, thanks http://pastebin.com/McC6Tnqn
#1600 [20:02] <Wug> DiskDaemon: look in the options menu for new features, and check in %minecraft%/log for log files, timed and dated
#1601 [20:02] <crayfish25> it is my parrents work laptop and in the rare case that something gets messed up by downloading anything i am in serious trouble
#1602 [20:03] <Wug> crayfish25: there is no risk in using the downloaded launcher
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#1604 [20:03] <Wug> Captainguzman: looks like graphics drivers
#1605 [20:03] <Wug> you're on windows xp?
#1606 [20:03] <Wug> :dx > Captainguzman
#1607 [20:03] <WugBot> Captainguzman: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1608 [20:03] <WugBot> Captainguzman: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1609 [20:03] <Captainguzman> Yes
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#1611 [20:04] <crayfish25> i tried to ask many times and everytime they get mad and still say no. is there anyway to fix the in browser cras issue?
#1612 [20:04] <crayfish25> *crash
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#1615 [20:04] <Wug> crayfish25: not without knowing why it crashes
#1616 [20:05] <Wug> which is very difficult to discover without downloading the launcher
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#1618 [20:05] <Wug> also, you necessarily download things all the time just by using the internet
#1619 [20:05] <Wug> minecraft still downloads things even if you use just the browser version
#1620 [20:06] <crayfish25> would the issue still exist if i downloaded the launcher?
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#1622 [20:07] <Captainguzman> I'm sorry but how do I do this? Press the Win+R keys
#1623 [20:08] <crayfish25> would the issue still exist if i downloaded the launcher?
#1624 [20:08] <gv> Look at your keyboard. What is the key between ctrl and alt?
#1625 [20:08] <gv> That is the windows, or win key. Press that and the rest keys at the same time
#1626 [20:09] <gv> Er, R keys
#1627 [20:10] <crayfish25> would the issue still exist if i downloaded the launcher?
#1628 [20:10] <Captainguzman> ok, working now
#1629 [20:10] <gv> Only one way to tell
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#1632 [20:12] <Captainguzman> Done: http://pastebin.com/7DL2S5LC
#1633 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> Captainguzman: I'm sorry man, your computer is well below the minimum requirements for the game
#1634 [20:14] <gv> Afraid that computer is just too old to play minecraft on.
#1635 [20:15] <Captainguzman> Thank you Very Much, You are awesome, time to head to Best Buy. I appreciate your Help
#1636 [20:15] <Wug> before you go
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#1638 [20:15] <Wug> you should shop around online
#1639 [20:15] <Wug> if you see something you want, post it and we'll tell you if it will run minecraft well
#1640 [20:15] <Captainguzman> Where do you recommend?
#1641 [20:16] <Wug> whatever bestbuy's website is is a good place to start
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#1643 [20:16] <Wug> maybe newegg, amazon, etc
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#1645 [20:16] <mib_jxh1dp> ha have a problem with the game i log in it says there is an update i do it then all i get is a black screen any help
#1646 [20:16] <gv> Tomshardware has daily listing's of deals
#1647 [20:16] <Captainguzman> Great, thanks, Kids want a Mac since we have Ipad, Iphone, Ipod
#1648 [20:17] <gv> Also slickdeals. And techbargains.com
#1649 [20:17] <Wug> :fu > mib_jxh1dp
#1650 [20:17] <WugBot> mib_jxh1dp: (fu) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1651 [20:17] <WugBot> mib_jxh1dp: (fu) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
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#1653 [20:18] <Captainguzman> Good Nite All, see U when I get the new Computer
#1654 [20:19] <gv> Gluck
#1655 [20:20] <mib_jxh1dp> there is no options on the page
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#1657 [20:20] <lutzee> Are you using the browser? if so download the launcher
#1658 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> see: http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png
#1659 [20:22] <mib_jxh1dp> thanks that worked yyaaa
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#1662 [20:24] <Wug> ;++ fu (picture: http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png)
#1663 [20:25] <Wug> :fu
#1664 [20:25] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1665 [20:25] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. (picture: http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png)
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#1672 [20:35] <creeperkiller805_> have downloaded but cannot see where to play
#1673 [20:36] <creeperkiller805_> the screen is just black
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#1675 [20:36] <creeperkiller805_> cannot get started, just downloaded today
#1676 [20:36] <creeperkiller805_> cannot get started, just downloaded today
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#1680 [20:38] <creeperkiller805_> cannot get started, just downloaded today
#1681 [20:39] <TheWeirdOne> does the demo after the limit is reached resetable?
#1682 [20:40] <Wug> TheWeirdOne: I think so. you have to start a new world though
#1683 [20:41] <TheWeirdOne> i ask because i see the reset demo tab and was not sure why it is there if not
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#1696 [21:20] <kingpeep> How do I download to windows vista
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#1699 [21:23] <lutzee> download the minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download run it, login, enjoy
#1700 [21:24] <kingpeep> I keep getting an error message about library memory
#1701 [21:25] <lutzee> Er you probably need to assign minecraft less ram
#1702 [21:25] <lutzee> a guide to doing that is here http://pastebin.com/gF3XWpR4
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#1704 [21:26] <kingpeep> i appreciate your help
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#1706 [21:27] <Xeric> Is there a way to save a pocket edition world so I can transfer it to a new device
#1707 [21:28] <Xeric> I really don't want to lose all my work
#1708 [21:29] <lutzee> Um i don't believe so, you might be able to access saves on a jailbroken device but i can't advise you do that
#1709 [21:29] <Xeric> I don't trust jailbreak either....
#1710 [21:29] <Xeric> So there is no backup for pocket edition?
#1711 [21:30] <Scott> Unfortunately not.
#1712 [21:31] <lutzee> Er not that i know of
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#1714 [21:31] <Scott> iOS works in a way that other apps can't access the files.
#1715 [21:31] <Xeric> Crap...
#1716 [21:31] <Xeric> Okay, thank you.
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#1718 [21:31] <Scott> and you don't have direct access to the file system...
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#1757 [22:56] <Marksterh> Hey guys
#1758 [22:56] <Marksterh> Hello everyone, I am trying to set up my own minecraft server and I was told I have to port forward. One of the steps of portforwarding is typing my IP address in my browser. Whenever I do this nothing happens. Can anyone help me please?! Thanks
#1759 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> Marksterh: What is the make/model of your router?
#1760 [23:01] <Marksterh> Ubee
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#1762 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> Which model?
#1763 [23:02] <Marksterh> Please help me.
#1764 [23:02] <Marksterh> U10C0222
#1765 [23:02] <Marksterh> U10c022*
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#1767 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> DDW3610, DVW3102B, EWV3200 or U10C022-Armbit - which model of the Ubee router do you have?
#1768 [23:03] <Marksterh> U10C022-Armbit
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#1770 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> The instructions that you need for port forwarding on that router are detailed at http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Ubee/U10C022-Ambit/Minecraft_Server.htm
#1771 [23:04] <Marksterh> One sec
#1772 [23:04] <Marksterh> Yeah the problem is
#1773 [23:04] <Marksterh> that whenever i type in my IP address on my browser
#1774 [23:04] <Marksterh> it does nothing
#1775 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> Open a command prompt and run the command: ipconfig
#1776 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> copy the results and paste it to pastebin.com for us totake a look at
#1777 [23:05] <Marksterh> How do i copy it?
#1778 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> In fact, detailed instructions on finding the ip of your router are given at http://portforward.com/networking/routers_ip_address.htm
#1779 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> Note: That's NOT the ip address of your computer
#1780 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> right-click, select all, press Enter to copy
#1781 [23:06] <Marksterh> I've probably seen it. Let me check. One sec
#1782 [23:06] <Marksterh> Been here
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#1784 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> good, then the process should be familiar to you
#1785 [23:07] <Marksterh> but i am supposed to find the INternal ip address right?
#1786 [23:07] <Marksterh> I know
#1787 [23:08] <Marksterh> Yeah I've tried to insert my Internal ip address but it never works.
#1788 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> It's the internal IP address of your router that you are after
#1789 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> "of your router". Not of your computer.
#1790 [23:10] <Marksterh> I just did the paste bin
#1791 [23:10] <Marksterh> http://pastebin.com/CgejTHAe
#1792 [23:10] <Marksterh> Is that my default gateway?
#1793 [23:11] <DiskDaemon> Yes it is.
#1794 [23:11] <Marksterh> I know
#1795 [23:11] <Marksterh> i type that in on my browser
#1796 [23:11] <Marksterh> but nothing happens
#1797 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> 192.168.0.1 is the IP address of your router, and 192.168.0.15 is the IP address of your computer, and will also be the internal IP address of the server
#1798 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> You have not stated yet the ip address that you are attempting to use
#1799 [23:13] <Marksterh> I am trying to use the IP address that connects to my router online
#1800 [23:15] <Marksterh> Aha. So i need that.
#1801 [23:16] <Marksterh> when i type it, it still doesn't work
#1802 [23:17] <Marksterh> So how do i fix it?
#1803 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> Some routers may not allow wireless access to their web configuration. That can be resolved by using a networking cable to directly connect to the router instead
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#1805 [23:18] <Marksterh> ?
#1806 [23:18] <DiskDaemon> By using a networking cable to directly connect to the router instead
#1807 [23:19] <Marksterh> And where can i get this cable from/
#1808 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> You can get them for $1 from some recycling places - they're all over the place.
#1809 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> Are you currently wirelessly connected to the router?
#1810 [23:22] <DiskDaemon> Do you know if you have a wired or a wireless connection to the router?
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#1815 [23:35] <VAUXul> Anyone help steer me on the anaglyph mod by messiah? I am getting the glitch sound on win 7 x64?
#1816 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> Sorry, we don't help with mods here, but we can direct you somewhere
#1817 [23:36] <VAUXul> that would be awesome!
#1818 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> First, are you using it with Minecraft 1.3?
#1819 [23:37] <VAUXul> yes 1.3.2
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#1822 [23:38] <DiskDaemon> I see from a recent update about the mod, that it no longer works with 1.3
#1823 [23:39] <VAUXul> dang, I feared that as what I was seeing kind of steered that way. Would you know how I could get the anaglyph to display in amber/cyan on this current version?
#1824 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> sorry no
#1825 [23:40] <VAUXul> :( I appreciate your help anyways. Anywhere I should know of as a good resource aside from the mine wiki? got the bug on the pocket version a while back and just picked it up on PC. I now have a problem... haha
#1826 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> that can depend on what type of information is wanting to be acquired
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#1830 [23:42] <VAUXul> ahh wiki has the basics covered pretty good. Looking for mods/textures type of go to's
#1831 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> Such as this? http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/51-minecraft-mods/
#1832 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> Or this? http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/41-texture-packs/
#1833 [23:44] <VAUXul> total derp moment daemon... I had that forum linked and open too but was lost in the mapping forums. Thank you for snapping me out of that section of the forums ;) Thank you for your time, Ill stop being a dummy now, haha
#1834 [23:45] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
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#1836 [23:46] <VAUXul> have fun in the mine! This game is too damn cool. See ya later!
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#1840 [23:55] <Og-GoNe> ahhhh... This is nice. I bumped up the heap allocation on our server to as high as it'd go (1.6G), things are a lot nicer now.
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