#1 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> There are plenty of people here who can help, but they seem to be busy right now
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#3 [00:00] <Firecracker227> thank you so much for the help though
#4 [00:02] <Firecracker227> WAIT A SECOND!
#5 [00:02] <Firecracker227> i just found a log of stuff in a file
#6 [00:03] <DiskDaemon> ??> Firecracker227 pastebin
#7 [00:03] <VoxelHead> Firecracker227: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#9 [00:04] <Firecracker227> you want me to paste the entire log folder? there are two entryes from the look of it
#10 [00:04] <Firecracker227> entries*
#11 [00:04] <DiskDaemon> All of it thanks
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#13 [00:05] <DiskDaemon> Firecracker227: From the most recent entry that the problem occurs with
#14 [00:05] <Guest35120> When clicking to play minecraft it loads up but then the screen goes black and nothing else happens. How do i make it work?
#15 [00:06] <DiskDaemon> Firecracker227: If you need to, delete the existing entries and run the "minecraft launcher.jar" program to create another entry for when the problem occurs
#16 [00:07] <Guest35120> ok thankyou
#17 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> Wug: The info for ts/launcher needs to be updated. The info about the log location seems to be out of date
#18 [00:09] <Firecracker227> http://pastebin.com/1EP18ssY
#19 [00:09] * GreyVulpine points DiskDaemon at the username
#19 [00:10] <Firecracker227> does that work?
#20 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> Firecracker227: It does thanks, and I see the problem.
#21 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> ??> Firecracker227 win/!
#22 [00:10] <VoxelHead> Firecracker227: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#23 [00:10] <VoxelHead> Firecracker227: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#24 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> Firecracker227: You beast :)
#25 [00:11] <Firecracker227> haha how am i a beast?
#26 [00:12] <Firecracker227> hahaha oh you saw that hahaha oops
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#28 [00:12] <Firecracker227> do i use what voxelhead said?
#29 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> "Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Users\Luke the BEAST!!!! (The system cannot find the file specified)"
#30 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> yes
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#32 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> Firecracker227: Other confirmation of your problem is that your launcher has a back background at the bottom, instead of the normal dirt background
#33 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> *black background
#34 [00:13] <Wug> k
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#36 [00:14] <DiskDaemon> For players who want to keep up - http://pastebin.com/1EP18ssY
#37 [00:14] <Firecracker227> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDD I LOVE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#38 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Oh god, my ears.
#39 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> you're welcomer
#40 [00:15] <Firecracker227> dop either of you play xbox?
#41 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope.
#42 [00:16] <DiskDaemon> no
#43 [00:16] <Firecracker227> DAMN hahahaha i know how i can pay you back its not really helpful but its awesome!
#44 [00:17] <Calinou> Firecracker227, pay us in diamonds or nyancats only
#45 [00:17] <Calinou> nothing else accepted :>
#46 [00:18] <Firecracker227> http://www.fotomage.com/img/fun/hilarious-weird-and-sexy-t-shirts-design/hilarious-weird-and-sexy-t-shirts-design19.jpg
#47 [00:18] <DiskDaemon> Firecracker227: Did the launcher ever say that it couldn't connect to minecraft.net ?
#48 [00:18] <Firecracker227> i dont think so i just had to put in my email instead of my username
#49 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> Hmm, how odd. I'll perform further tests in that regard later. For now though - enjoy.
#50 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> Firecracker227: As you're getting started, you'll want to give this a good read. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner's_guide
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#52 [00:20] <Firecracker227> hahahaha speaking of gandalf, minecraft was like "you shall not pass!" and you guys were like that huge awesome devil beast and just smacked him off the bridge and was like "ya mad bro?"
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#54 [00:24] <Firecracker227> thanks again ill see you guys later :) MINECRAFT!
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#119 [05:58] <pheleas_frog> what could i do if a ip adress with different ports is always spamming our mc server?
#120 [05:59] <pheleas_frog> i ever get the log inside the console but i cant ban the ip or something, how could i stop that spamming? like:
#121 [05:59] <pheleas_frog> 09:53:11 [INFO] /94.231.106.109:51436 lost connection
#122 [06:06] <DiskDaemon> pheleas_frog: You could add him to your firewall
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#124 [06:13] <Smanly> pheleas_frog: That is most likly a minecraft server listing site pinging your server.
#125 [06:14] <Smanly> Do you have your servers listed on any sites?
#126 [06:15] <pheleas_frog> hmmm yes
#127 [06:15] <pheleas_frog> but there are to man
#128 [06:15] <pheleas_frog> many
#129 [06:15] <pheleas_frog> as i could tell wich one is spamming the server each 2-3 minute
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#133 [06:18] <Smanly> pheleas_frog: They are checking if you server is up. its nothing to worry about.
#134 [06:18] <Smanly> pheleas_frog: They are checking if you server is up. its nothing to worry about.
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#138 [06:26] <pheleas_frog> but isnt it sad for the server stability if it always loss connection each 2-3 minutes?
#139 [06:27] <pheleas_frog> and why the heck then the service is spamming the loss with different ports all time?
#140 [06:27] <pheleas_frog> its always a different port at the end of the ip adress
#141 [06:37] <TheNoodle> pheleas_frog, that's how connections to a minecraft server work.
#142 [06:38] <TheNoodle> Also, it will not affect your server stability in any way. Also, if you block that IP and it does belong to a server listing your server will be shown as offline on the site.
#143 [06:47] <pheleas_frog> rgr, thanks
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#222 [10:22] <watnoufrank> hi
#223 [10:22] <watnoufrank> someone knows the john smith texturepack?
#224 [10:22] <watnoufrank> i tried to patch it but it gives a black screen
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#226 [10:29] <watnoufrank> nobody?
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#228 [10:31] <Iaccidentally> then you did it wrong
#229 [10:31] <watnoufrank> :p
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#231 [10:31] <watnoufrank> this is for help
#232 [10:31] <watnoufrank> no commentary
#233 [10:32] <Lutzee> We can't keep track of every mod/texturepack
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#235 [10:32] <watnoufrank> ok
#236 [10:32] <Lutzee> Is it a HD texture pack? (anything larger than 32x32
#237 [10:32] <watnoufrank> do i have to go to an other channel?
#238 [10:32] <watnoufrank> yes
#239 [10:32] <Lutzee> Right, you installed optifine/HD texture mod?
#240 [10:33] <watnoufrank> optifine?
#241 [10:33] <watnoufrank> i installed john smith
#242 [10:33] <watnoufrank> no
#243 [10:34] <Lutzee> You need to install a modification to allow HD texture packs to work
#244 [10:34] <watnoufrank> i have
#245 [10:34] <watnoufrank> mcpatcher
#246 [10:34] <Lutzee> Also any high resolution texturepacks >128x128 need decent PC's to run them
#247 [10:34] <watnoufrank> no its not that high
#248 [10:34] <watnoufrank> its 32x32
#249 [10:35] <Lutzee> Er okay also make sure you have the right version of mcpatcher for the version of minecraft you are running
#250 [10:35] <watnoufrank> i have
#251 [10:35] <Calinou> Lutzee, HD is larger than 16x16... not 32
#252 [10:36] <Calinou> watnoufrank, patch it again
#253 [10:36] <Calinou> with correct settings
#254 [10:36] <Calinou> and what patcher version are you using?
#255 [10:36] <Calinou> you can also try optifine. note that optifine and mcpatcher are /not/ compatible
#256 [10:36] <watnoufrank> 1.3.2
#257 [10:37] <watnoufrank> problem solved
#258 [10:37] <Calinou> patcher version != game version
#259 [10:37] <watnoufrank> it works now
#260 [10:37] <Calinou> ok then
#261 [10:37] <watnoufrank> but i still need to make a cool terrain.png
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#270 [11:12] <mib_04nplb> hi i want change my pseudo
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#273 [11:13] <Selbram> you want to do waht?
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#275 [11:13] <Selbram> bah
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#283 [11:24] <Muesliriegel> Hello, im currently having trouble witth my Minecraft server via Hamachi. The strange thing is i can join servers on the i-net, but not via hamachi. I can't even join on my own server when its running..
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#286 [11:28] <Selbram> ??> Muesliriegel fubar/hamachi
#287 [11:28] <VoxelHead> Muesliriegel: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#288 [11:28] <VoxelHead> Muesliriegel: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
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#290 [11:28] <Selbram> damnit
#291 [11:29] <LilLucy> lol
#292 [11:29] <Selbram> thats two in a row
#293 [11:29] <LilLucy> A bit slow there :3
#294 [11:30] <Selbram> I see the question/statement, look up the answer, come back and post and there gone...
#295 [11:30] <LilLucy> lol
#296 [11:30] <Selbram> there = they're
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#301 [11:49] <tyteen4a03> Selbram: I was going to answer too, but I noticed he's gone
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#303 [11:49] <Selbram> I am just slow :)
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#306 [11:59] <ThomQ> Good evening all!
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#308 [11:59] <FLHerne> ThomQ: You're back! :D
#309 [11:59] <ThomQ> :P But ofcourse
#310 [12:00] <ThomQ> I'm checking Bukkit plugins for some fun tonight :P
#311 [12:00] <Firecracker227> hey guys i just had some quick questions on how to make minecraft not lag as mch
#312 [12:00] <ThomQ> Firecracker: quick question, wich requires a long answer :P
#313 [12:01] <ThomQ> I'd start with setting all possible graphical settings to minimum
#314 [12:01] <Firecracker227> haha i dont know
#315 [12:02] <FLHerne> Firecracker227: What kind of lag do you have? Just slow chunk loading, or jerky rendering, or both?
#316 [12:02] <Firecracker227> mainly just really jerky
#317 [12:02] <FLHerne> This isn't a mod-support channel, but I found Optifine helped with that :-)
#318 [12:03] <FLHerne> Adds more sttings that you can set to minimum :P
#319 [12:03] <ThomQ> Herne: Btw, Minecraft is the best thing to come out in years :P It managed to get me, and 2 of my buddies completely hooked! Three 30 year old men emailing eachother all day about How much we want to play :P
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#321 [12:03] <Ianuarius> hello
#322 [12:04] <FLHerne> Ianuarius: Hello :-)
#323 [12:04] <FLHerne> ThomQ: You think I don't know that? :D OpenTTD is better IMO, but it came out a few years ago now :P
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#325 [12:05] <ThomQ> Ahhh Transport Tycoon.. Have a couple of 100 hours in that game as well :P
#326 [12:05] <ThomQ> But I'm mainly surprised at How quick minecraft can turn people into Fiends
#327 [12:06] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Only a couple of hundred? :P
#328 [12:06] <ThomQ> I remember playing it for Years back in the 90's :D
#329 [12:06] <Ianuarius> I'm trying to install Steamcraft and get Dokucraft texturepack work with it
#330 [12:06] <Ianuarius> so far
#331 [12:06] <Ianuarius> only black screens :(
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#333 [12:07] <Ianuarius> I guess with steamcraft bein in somewhat of an alpha stage you can't expect it to work perfectly
#334 [12:07] <Ianuarius> but I was hoping i could get it to even start up
#335 [12:09] <FLHerne> ThomQ: The FOSS version is much-improved and extended :-)
#336 [12:09] <FLHerne> Ianuarius: Not a mod-support channel
#337 [12:10] <Ianuarius> is there one?
#338 [12:10] <FLHerne> ??mods
#339 [12:10] <Ianuarius> because i'm fucking clueless with this shit
#340 [12:10] * AuBot kicked Ianuarius from #minecrafthelp (Reason: anuarius :Please keep it civil.)
#341 [12:10] <FLHerne> Still can't work this thing :P
#342 [12:10] <FLHerne> ?? mods
#343 [12:10] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#344 [12:10] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#345 [12:10] <ThomQ> Voxelhead is always on point with very long comments!
#346 [12:10] <Selbram> HAHA, he got kicked before he got the mods info
#347 [12:10] <ThomQ> :P
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#350 [12:11] <FLHerne> There's a channel for steamcraft, but it has one person in it :P
#351 [12:11] <Selbram> FLHerne: he is gone already
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#353 [12:11] <FLHerne> Selbram: Ah, yes
#354 [12:11] <Selbram> "Ianuarius has been kicked by AuBot: Please keep it civil.."
#355 [12:12] <Selbram> It is going to be one of those days :)
#356 [12:12] <ThomQ> what would be a good way of destroying my buddies Tower they build yesterday?
#357 [12:12] <Selbram> "Hi, I'm being helpful.... WHERE DID YOU GO!?"
#358 [12:12] <ThomQ> I want it to crumble in front of their eyes
#359 [12:12] <FLHerne> ThomQ: NUKES! (If you're still using Tekkit)
#360 [12:12] <ThomQ> hahah no, Vanilla :D
#361 [12:12] <FLHerne> TNT, then :P
#362 [12:12] <Selbram> Fill if full of tnt and and set it to blow with a pressure plate
#363 [12:13] <ThomQ> hahahaha yeah
#364 [12:13] <ThomQ> that sounds good
#365 [12:13] <FLHerne> They nerfed the fire, so that's no good now :-(
#366 [12:13] <ThomQ> and then when they flee in the house, I'll poor some buckets of lava on them
#367 [12:13] <ThomQ> im going to FRAPS it all :P
#368 [12:13] <FLHerne> Apparently they un-nerfed it in the snapshots though ;-)
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#371 [12:15] <FLHerne> Is there a list of the million useful commands for VoxelHead?
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#373 [12:15] <Selbram> http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
#374 [12:15] <Selbram> ^
#375 [12:15] <ThomQ> ?? help
#376 [12:15] <Selbram> bookmark that
#377 [12:15] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#378 [12:15] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#379 [12:16] <ThomQ> lollol
#380 [12:16] <FLHerne> Thanks :-)
#381 [12:16] <ThomQ> I decided to test a Large Biome yesterday.. I walked in one direction for 15 minutes before I had enough..
#382 [12:16] <Guest_> Is it legal or illigal to monetizate my Minecraft Let's Play?
#383 [12:17] <ThomQ> Guest: No!
#384 [12:17] <ThomQ> As long as you Talk over it
#385 [12:17] <Guest_> no --> its legal?
#386 [12:18] <ThomQ> Yeah, Letsplay's on youtube are legal, as long as there's a voice over
#387 [12:18] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Largebiomes can be fun if you like travelling :-)
#388 [12:19] <Guest_> of course letsplays are legal ;) but earning money with youtubes partnerprogram in the letsplays
#389 [12:19] <Guest_> is that legal?
#390 [12:20] <ThomQ> Guest: yeah, it is. True, the rules are a bit murky, but from what I understand, its legal to post video footage of games, as long as you talk over it :) wheter or not you make money of it doesn't really matter legaly. ThePiratebay doesn't make that much money, but still their activity is quite illegal :)
#391 [12:22] <Guest_> okay, thank you! i didnt really understand the terms of use... but then i should be allowed to activate monetization :)
#392 [12:22] <ThomQ> plus, it also differs from country to country.. Here in the Netherlands it's legal to download music and movies / tv shows. Software is illegal though
#393 [12:24] <Guest_> here in germany its allowed to monetizate but i didnt know if mojang permits it
#394 [12:25] <Denizen> I believe putting text as dialog over it also works
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#396 [12:28] <Guest_> if i activate, youtube would make some advertising as overlay. but obviously some game manufacturers dont want that letsplayers earn money with their games
#397 [12:28] <ThomQ> question: Can I put 2 pistons on top of each other, in order to extend the effect / Make them push up higher?
#398 [12:28] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Yes, but applying power to the moving ones is fiddly in some cases ;-)
#399 [12:29] <ThomQ> yeah, I'm just now understanding the usage of redstone
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#401 [12:30] <skippydippy> does someone know what i need to to if WorldEdit CUI Mod stop showing me the selection lines?
#402 [12:30] <ThomQ> but for our drawbridge I need those pistons to push blocks further, like 2 or 3 spaces
#403 [12:30] <skippydippy> sometimes it just stop showing them if i select something with my wooden axe
#404 [12:32] <Selbram> skippydippy: /join #sk89q for help with that
#405 [12:32] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Are you making the moat from lava? If not, do :P
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#408 [12:33] <ThomQ> haha yeah, I was planning on it
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#410 [12:34] <FLHerne> Simplest way to do it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-qefAQnS78
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#412 [12:34] <FLHerne> Doesn't rely on lava, but lava is just cooler in every possible way :-)
#413 [12:34] <slimer> could someone post the #sk...? chan again, had a damn disco
#414 [12:34] <ThomQ> yeah, pushing upwards
#415 [12:34] <ThomQ> that's probably the best
#416 [12:35] <ThomQ> and when using lava, it doesn't matter if its just 1 block deep
#417 [12:35] <FLHerne> If you really want a horizontal one, those are rather awkward to design and build. Can be done though - don't ask me how :P
#418 [12:35] <Selbram> yup, /join #sk89q
#419 [12:35] <slimer> thanks
#420 [12:36] <ThomQ> ow, I had one more question about World Seeds. I found some nice looking seeds I'd like to use for our server. Can I use the default / Large biome settings for the same seed, or is the size already contained in the seed?
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#422 [12:37] <FLHerne> ThomQ: It won't generate the same world, at any rate
#423 [12:37] <FLHerne> The seed doesn't directly specify the world, it's just used as a pseudo-random number by the worldgen
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#425 [12:38] <Morrolan> Same seed == same world, provided you use same settings.
#426 [12:39] <FLHerne> "provided you use same settings", hence, using another biome size won't work ;-)
#427 [12:39] <ThomQ> So if I change it, it wouldn't be a Bigger variation on that seed
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#429 [12:39] <ThomQ> cool thanks
#430 [12:40] <FLHerne> AFAIK, they don't stay the same across many version changes, either
#431 [12:40] <ThomQ> yeah, I read that as well
#432 [12:40] <Morrolan> Well yea, if the world generator changes then you get all kinds of ugly borders.
#433 [12:40] <LilLucy> ^
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#436 [12:42] <gibbly82> Hey i've got a problem with the launcher : when i lauch it i've got this error message : "Error:could not the java virtual machineerror:a fatal exception has occurred.program will exit". I've already delete and update minecraft. I can lauch it with MCPATCHER but i haven't got my premium username ( i'm player147 )
#437 [12:43] <gibbly82> I've already delete and update java* Thanks for help ! :)
#438 [12:43] <FLHerne> gibbly82: Which operating system and Java version?
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#442 [12:44] <gibbly82> I've got Windows XP 32bits and Java7
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#445 [12:45] <Slimer> lol i need to write down the name of the #sk chan :( disco again...
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#448 [12:46] <Slimer> #sc8rn wasnt it, #sc8nq even not ^^
#449 [12:46] <Slimer> hmmm
#450 [12:46] <FLHerne> Mmm.
#451 [12:46] * FLHerne isn't a Windows user :-(
#451 [12:46] <TheNoodle> #sk89q.
#452 [12:46] <Slimer> thank you very much :p
#453 [12:47] <TheNoodle> np
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#455 [12:49] <FLHerne> gibbly82: Sorry, someone else might know but I don't :-(
#456 [12:49] <gibbly82> Ok but thanks for your help ! :)
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#459 [12:52] <ThomQ> lol, those Big Nosed NPC's
#460 [12:52] <ThomQ> they don't do anything except being Cannon fodder (sword fodder) :P
#461 [12:53] <Morrolan> Trade, man, trade. :P
#462 [12:53] <ThomQ> trade with them? We just raided their whole village :P
#463 [12:53] <ThomQ> How do we trade?
#464 [12:53] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Indeed. Wave emeralds at them ;-)
#465 [12:54] <FLHerne> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Trading
#466 [12:54] <ThomQ> lol, ow wow
#467 [12:54] <ThomQ> Thanks!
#468 [12:54] <ThomQ> I guess we were just playing the role of Barbarians :P
#469 [12:58] <FLHerne> If you attack a big village, mind the Iron Golems ;-)
#470 [12:59] <FLHerne> They've got 50 health, and can whack yo right into the air :P
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#472 [13:01] <ThomQ> heheh, good to know
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#474 [13:01] <booboo> can't dig or move left anybody no why ?
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#482 [13:11] <Morrolan> Running "Constant Guard by Comcast?"
#483 [13:11] <Morrolan> Also, the more obvious reason, checked the key mappings?
#484 [13:13] <booboo> tikker mouse not broken
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#507 [13:50] <Mechwarrior> Oh hello, I'm having a problem with purchasing minecraft via paypal. You guys most likely hear this SAME problem over and over. It tells me that the purchase couldn't be processed at the moment.
#508 [13:51] <Mechwarrior> Is there anything to do so I can fix this? I've called paypal and they said they don't know what's going on
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#510 [13:55] <FLHerne> ?? payment
#511 [13:55] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang don't process money directly from payments made, but accept payment them through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of these payments, your account will be credited with premium status. This may take a few hours, be patient.
#512 [13:55] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://is.gd/B1N48h
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#514 [13:55] <FLHerne> Actually, that may be totally irrelevant...
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#516 [14:03] <tyteen4a03> Mechwarrior: What kind of card are you using?
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#520 [14:15] <ThomQ> Im trying out different world seeds for my server
#521 [14:15] <ThomQ> What is the Reset world command? Or do I just have to delete the world folder and restart the server?
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#523 [14:16] <Morrolan> Yep, that's the way to go.
#524 [14:18] <ThomQ> Thanks
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#537 [14:34] <ThomQ> Question: what is the Max max-build-height?
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#554 [14:55] <hubertys09> when i open my window, it goes up to "done loading" then the window closes and i get an error log on my desktop
#555 [14:55] <hubertys09> it says this:
#556 [14:55] <hubertys09> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x63633d90, pid=3000, tid=2892 # # JRE version: 7.0_07-b11 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (23.3-b01 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [atioglxx.dll+0x9b3d90] DrvPresentBuffers+0x977680 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions
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#559 [15:07] <tyteen4a03> ??> hubertys09 gpu/amd
#560 [15:07] <VoxelHead> hubertys09: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#561 [15:07] <tyteen4a03> hubertys09: If you need further assistance, Morrolan should be here
#562 [15:08] <hubertys09> ok thanks il try :)
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#570 [15:22] <Cisna> I have the following problem: I have downloaded Minecraft 10 minutes ago, and the resources folder contains no files or sub-folders. Also i have no sound. What can i do?
#571 [15:22] <Cisna> And Hi :D
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#577 [15:33] <ThomQ> anybody know the zoom in button for optifine?
#578 [15:33] <ThomQ> anybody know the zoom in button for optifine?
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#580 [15:33] <ThomQ> Never mind :D
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#585 [15:44] <Rocco> I paid for minecraft but it still says im not premium
#586 [15:45] <Rocco> when will i be premium?
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#588 [15:47] <Rocco> Hello
#589 [15:47] <Adam__> I purchased minecraft over a year ago (when it was still in beta I believe) and i tried to log in today to play it after not playing it in forever and it says i have not purchased it
#590 [15:47] <Adam__> hi
#591 [15:48] <Adam__> sorry, that was my question. what happened to my old minecraft subscription and do I have to pay for it again?
#592 [15:48] * TheDarknessIsAFK is now known as Denizen
#593 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> No, you do not have to pay for it again
#594 [15:49] <Adam__> well then why does it say when I log in that I am not a premium member and I need to buy minecraft
#595 [15:49] <Adam__> ?
#596 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Try doing a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all email addresses you normally use. This will send back an email with the usernames attached to that email, along with an indicator of which one is premium
#597 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> We see this frequently with people that have registered more than one account, and forgotten which account was premium
#598 [15:50] <Adam__> i only have the one email address, and one account. I have the password and username correct and every time I go to log in it says I am not premium
#599 [15:50] <Adam__> When I purchased minecraft it was only 10 dollars as well, and it was awhile ago...not sure how long
#600 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't automatically remove premium (especially not after a year) on a whim
#601 [15:50] <Rocco> I bought the game last week and it said error after i made the visa lock account then after that it sent me back to minecraft.net and said sorry for the error its confusing we are sorry but game me a recipt number, what do i do?
#602 [15:50] <Rocco> gave*
#603 [15:51] <Lutzee> What does it say when you log into minecraft.net Adam__ ?
#604 [15:51] <Adam__> it says that i need to buy minecraft
#605 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Try my suggestion before you do anything else.
#606 [15:51] <Adam__> and when i log into the launcher it says user not premium
#607 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, you'll have to put in a support ticket to Mojang, and their support backlog is over 3 months
#608 [15:52] <Adam__> your suggestion won't do me any good seein that I have only ever made one account
#609 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Then all I can tell you is to read this: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
#610 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> And contact Mojang.
#611 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> "
#612 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Please double check that the username that you've purchased premium status on is the one that you're trying to log in with. Often, someone will have more than one registered account, and will have made their purchase on another account that they own.
#613 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> ^ that statement has applied to more than one person that's passed through here.
#614 [15:54] <Rocco> Grey can you help me too? I can wait till your done with adam so take your time
#615 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Let me read back, one moment.
#616 [15:54] <Rocco> ok
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#618 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Ah, payment issue. I'd first call your financial institution, confirm that a transaction has occured and has cleared. Many times, a payment will not be processed, or has been declined, even though Mojang gives you a receipt number
#619 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> The only way to be sure you've paid for premium, is to have a transaction ID with an email from either moneybookers or Paypal (whichever you used).
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#621 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> To doubly confirm that, your finanacial institution (bank or credit card) will also have a record of payment
#622 [15:56] <Rocco> ok so i shall check to see if it charged the card i used
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#624 [15:56] * GreyVulpine nods
#624 [15:56] <ash> hi guys
#625 [15:56] <ash> i need help
#626 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Hello
#627 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> With
#628 [15:56] <ash> minecraft, duh
#629 [15:56] <ash> whenever i open it
#630 [15:57] <ash> it opens fine
#631 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Oh, sorry, I thought you needed help with something else, having entered #minecrafthelp
#632 [15:57] <Rocco> ok thanks a lot Grey might be back but have a nice day and thanks again
#633 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Good luck Rocco
#634 [15:57] <ash> then it crashed before it gets to the actual game screen
#635 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> ash - Got an error report you can share with us via www.pastebin.com?
#636 [15:58] <ash> i tried redownleading, after deleting the .minecraft file
#637 [15:58] <ash> even redownloaded java
#638 [15:58] <ash> STILL doesnt work
#639 [15:58] <ash> any help?
#640 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> An actual error log or report would give us more information
#641 [15:58] <ash> the title of the error message
#642 [15:58] <ash> (the beginning)
#643 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Could you please look for a file starting wtih hs_err_pid where you have the launcher?
#644 [15:58] <ash> is hss_err_pid
#645 [15:59] <ash> ill get one up
#646 [15:59] <ash> one sec
#647 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Please share the entire contents of the error report to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL so that we may read it
#648 [15:59] <ash> guess what?
#649 [15:59] <ash> it crashed, but there was no message!!!!!!!!!!
#650 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> If it crashed, there will be a message. Look at where you have the launcher
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#653 [16:00] <ash> any advive
#654 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> If it crashed, there will be a message. Look at where you have the launcher
#655 [16:00] <ash> one sec
#656 [16:00] <ash> in the start menu
#657 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Where did you download the minecraft launcher from minecraft.net/download to?
#658 [16:01] <ash> my computer
#659 [16:01] <ash> the roaming file
#660 [16:01] <ash> where should it go?
#661 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft.exe file?
#662 [16:01] <ash> yea
#663 [16:02] <ash> where should it go?
#664 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Then look there for a file that's named hs_err_pid
#665 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't matter where it goes
#666 [16:02] <ash> got it up
#667 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> The hs_err_pid file?
#668 [16:02] <ash> yea
#669 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Please copy the entirety of it. Go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it there. Submit it, then give us the URL in your address bar here
#670 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> This way, it doesn't flood the channel, and we can read it
#671 [16:04] <ash> http://pastebin.com/jDHqX26s
#672 [16:04] <ash> go there
#673 [16:04] <ash> and HEEEEEEEEEEELP
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#676 [16:05] <ash> ok
#677 [16:05] <ash> got it up
#678 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Has minecraft ever worked before?
#679 [16:05] <ash> yes
#680 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Looks like a video driver issue to me.
#681 [16:05] <ash> about 2 updates ago
#682 [16:05] <ash> which means what?
#683 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag?
#684 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> ??> ash win/dxdiag
#685 [16:05] <ash> whats that?
#686 [16:05] <VoxelHead> ash: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#687 [16:06] <VoxelHead> ash: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#688 [16:07] <ash> one sec
#689 [16:08] <ash> http://pastebin.com/FWpKb6X3
#690 [16:08] <ash> there
#691 [16:09] <ash> so whats up vulpine?
#692 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> One moment please
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#694 [16:11] <ash> ...
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#696 [16:12] <ash> vulp? anything?
#697 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Please give me a moment here, the report is not a quick read
#698 [16:12] <ash> okay
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#700 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Looks like you're running an ATI Radeon X1270 video card on a laptop with Windows Vista™ Home Premium. The drivers installed may be a little old, from 2007.
#701 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Try downloading the catalyst software suite and installing it from: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/integrated_vista32.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.2.3.2&lang=English
#702 [16:15] <ash> yea....insallation is a problem
#703 [16:15] <ash> im on parental controls
#704 [16:15] <Denizen> Ask your parents.
#705 [16:15] <ash> will the installation solve everything?
#706 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> From what I can tell, your video driver is at fault.
#707 [16:15] <ash> is taht a yes or a no?
#708 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> It is very likely.
#709 [16:16] <ash> thanks vulpine
#710 [16:16] <ash> i gtg
#711 [16:16] <ash> later
#712 [16:17] <ThomQ> Hmmm. with what command Can I teleport to coordinates
#713 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> There's no vanilla command that's capable of doing that
#714 [16:18] <ThomQ> arrrrgh :P
#715 [16:18] <Morrolan> Wasn't that added with the last update?
#716 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Was it?
#717 [16:18] <ThomQ> really??
#718 [16:18] <Smanly> /help coords
#719 [16:18] <Smanly> ?
#720 [16:18] <Morrolan> I thought so, but I don't know for sure, since I rarely use Vanilla.
#721 [16:18] <Morrolan> "/tp x y z" it'd be, if it was added.
#722 [16:18] <Morrolan> Just try it. *shrug*
#723 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Ah, looks like you're right.
#724 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> It's /tp playername x y z
#725 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands
#726 [16:19] <Morrolan> Ah, I see. :)
#727 [16:19] <Smanly> Thats neat
#728 [16:19] <ThomQ> console is 't' right? or is that just chat?
#729 [16:19] <ThomQ> Thanks :D
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#731 [16:19] <Smanly> same thing, yeah.
#732 [16:19] <Morrolan> If you're going to issue the command through the console, leave out the slash.
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#734 [16:20] <whidgle> does someone know whats the reson that Worldedit CUI dont shows borders anymore while using the Wooden Pickaxe?
#735 [16:20] <whidgle> ill use it and it works, next time it dont works, then hours later it works again
#736 [16:21] <Smanly> Its not installed properly
#737 [16:21] <whidgle> that rly sucks, i need to see the borders
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#739 [16:21] <Smanly> Its probably conflicting with one of your other mods.
#740 [16:21] <whidgle> it is installed, and even re-install dont fix it, just if i turn off the computer for a time, or doing other shit and then logging back it works again
#741 [16:22] <whidgle> i just have 2 client mods
#742 [16:22] <whidgle> one is the Modloader
#743 [16:22] <whidgle> the other is Worldedit CUI
#744 [16:22] <Smanly> Does WE CUI need mod loader?
#745 [16:22] <whidgle> for sure
#746 [16:22] <whidgle> the informations at Worldedit CUI telling that :p
#747 [16:22] <Smanly> Are you installing it manually, or using the mods forlder?
#748 [16:23] <whidgle> manually
#749 [16:23] <whidgle> and it is working fine
#750 [16:23] <whidgle> but just sometimes it stop showing the border lines while using the axe
#751 [16:23] <whidgle> that is rly anoying
#752 [16:23] <Smanly> Well, its known to be buggy. you may need to relog a few times.
#753 [16:23] <whidgle> due i need the border lines to see what i'm doing
#754 [16:23] <Smanly> The current version also giveg lots of laggs spikes
#755 [16:24] <whidgle> rly sucks :(
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#757 [16:24] <Smanly> You can report the errors on the thread if you wish.
#758 [16:26] <whidgle> there are no errors, it just stop workin fine :p
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#762 [16:27] <whidgle> it's like my wife, sometimes it works how it should and sometimes i would love to close the fucking lid :p
#763 [16:27] * AuBot kicked whidgle from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hidgle :Please keep it civil.)
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#765 [16:27] <whidgle> lol
#766 [16:28] <whidgle> got kicked for that text :D
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#768 [16:30] <Morrolan> Might have been the fuck.ing.
#769 [16:30] <Morrolan> Alternatively, AuBot's a feminist. ;D
#770 [16:30] <Smanly> lul
#771 [16:30] <whidgle> lol, or that ill wanna close the lid of my wife :D
#772 [16:31] <whidgle> ;)
#773 [16:31] <Morrolan> That being said, it's rather late already, g'night. :)
#774 [16:31] <whidgle> gn8 m8
#775 [16:31] <Smanly> And although there may not be an error you can copy and paste, there is still an error.
#776 [16:31] <Smanly> Adios!
#777 [16:31] <whidgle> yeh there is an error....
#778 [16:31] <whidgle> and now i relogged 10 times
#779 [16:31] <whidgle> and still no borders
#780 [16:31] <Smanly> lol
#781 [16:32] <whidgle> sometimes it works after a reboot
#782 [16:32] <whidgle> sometimes not...
#783 [16:32] <Smanly> I dunno
#784 [16:32] <whidgle> sometimes it works after changing the texture pack, sometimes... not
#785 [16:32] <whidgle> it's rly a crazy error
#786 [16:32] <Smanly> Have you got the most recent version?
#787 [16:32] <whidgle> yes ofc
#788 [16:32] <whidgle> even updated java
#789 [16:32] <Smanly> you may want to try down grading, I dunno.
#790 [16:32] <whidgle> and all shit that could be a fact of the error
#791 [16:32] <Smanly> Is this on SMP?
#792 [16:33] <whidgle> smp?
#793 [16:33] <Smanly> Multi player
#794 [16:33] <whidgle> yeh multiplayer
#795 [16:33] <Smanly> I dunno
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#797 [16:33] <whidgle> the server is at a different country then i am
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#799 [16:33] <ginny> our mind craft crashed we need help
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#801 [16:34] <ginny> help please
#802 [16:34] <whidgle> my mind crashing more times a day haha
#803 [16:34] <whidgle> dont ask for help, explain your issue :)
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#805 [16:35] <ginny> I can past the error here
#806 [16:35] <Smanly> ginny: pastebin.com
#807 [16:36] <ginny> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT e8f465cd --------
#808 [16:37] <ginny> Java Version: 1.7.0_04, Oracle Corporation
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#810 [16:38] <whidgle> lol
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#813 [16:41] <whidgle> wow, i restarted the server and then the "client" module worldedit cui where showing the borders for 1 minute ^^
#814 [16:41] <whidgle> now again not.... damn it
#815 [16:41] <whidgle> as a hell crazy bug
#816 [16:43] <whidgle> seems that the bug depends on the EURO TAX ^^
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#822 [17:00] <Kls12> Hello?
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#829 [17:04] <crazyscouter> Soo helllo
#830 [17:05] <crazyscouter> So um my user is not found when I enter in my email and password -.
#831 [17:05] <crazyscouter> Any ideas?
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#833 [17:08] <crazyscouter> Any lol?
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#835 [17:10] <Twinchicken86> Is it possible to run a Tekkit server on a Web server?
#836 [17:10] <crazyscouter> I've always wondered that xD
#837 [17:11] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: I just said in the other channel: What do you mean by 'Web server'?
#838 [17:11] <FLHerne> Any computer can be a web server if set up right ;-)
#839 [17:11] <Twinchicken86> Uno momento, por favor...
#840 [17:11] <crazyscouter> Do you mean like x10 or something xD
#841 [17:12] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: If you can run a normal server on it, you should be able to run a Tekkit one
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#843 [17:12] <Twinchicken86> No, it's not a VPS, it's a real server.
#844 [17:13] <Twinchicken86> And I have no idea whether it can run a vanilla server or not.
#845 [17:13] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: Well, I can't see why not...what're the specs?
#846 [17:13] <Twinchicken86> The real question would be how I could interface with it...
#847 [17:13] <AG_Clinton> A VPS is a real server...
#848 [17:13] <Twinchicken86> Oh, it is stupidly amazing.
#849 [17:13] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: ssh? Telnet*?
#850 [17:13] <FLHerne> *NB: Telnet is very insecure. Don't use it :P
#851 [17:14] <Twinchicken86> Modwest is the company...
#852 [17:14] <FLHerne> Can't remember if minecraft has rcon
#853 [17:14] <AG_Clinton> You can't run a tekkit server on a web server.
#854 [17:14] <Twinchicken86> But the thing has hundreds of gigs of RAM according to our IT guy.
#855 [17:14] <AG_Clinton> Or vanilla for that matter.
#856 [17:14] <FLHerne> AG_Clinton: Not really, they're fake servers running in a VM normally
#857 [17:14] <whidgle> would be someone as nice to try to connect to our server? we think that the new project server isnt reachable by external players :(
#858 [17:14] <FLHerne> AG_Clinton: And why not?
#859 [17:14] <AG_Clinton> They're not "fake" servers.
#860 [17:15] <Twinchicken86> It's not a VPS/fake server.
#861 [17:15] <whidgle> the server adress would be: rootbash.de (basic port) ... would be awesome.., thanks
#862 [17:15] <Twinchicken86> It's a physical machine.
#863 [17:15] <AG_Clinton> Because a web server doesn't run that kind of media. It hosts files and servers pages.
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#865 [17:15] <AG_Clinton> Serves*
#866 [17:15] <FLHerne> AG_Clinton: Depends. A lot are VMs, but yes you can get real ones
#867 [17:15] <AG_Clinton> A Virtual Machine is a server.
#868 [17:16] <Twinchicken86> This one is real.
#869 [17:16] <FLHerne> AG_Clinton: So? That's what an MC server does. Just with more CPU load ;-)
#870 [17:16] <Twinchicken86> It's a physical machine.
#871 [17:16] <AG_Clinton> Ok, so you have SSH access?
#872 [17:16] <Twinchicken86> If you mean direct FTP, then yes.
#873 [17:16] <Twinchicken86> I have NO idea what SSH access is.
#874 [17:16] <AG_Clinton> No not FTP.
#875 [17:16] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: Well, if the specs are OK, it's not heavily loaded already and you're allowed to, the yes
#876 [17:16] <AG_Clinton> What operating system is it?
#877 [17:17] <Twinchicken86> I do not know.
#878 [17:17] <Twinchicken86> And thanks, FLH.
#879 [17:17] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: So who's server is it?
#880 [17:17] <Twinchicken86> My parents.
#881 [17:17] <AG_Clinton> Well unless you have SSH or RDP/Telnet (for windows) you can't run it.
#882 [17:17] <AG_Clinton> You would need the administrator to install it. FTP access won't cut it.
#883 [17:17] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: I see. Other way round here: I do my parents' hosting :-)
#884 [17:18] <Twinchicken86> Hold on a sec please xD
#885 [17:19] <Twinchicken86> We can access the server through FTP, SSH, everything.
#886 [17:19] <FLHerne> How many people were you thinking of having? As AG_Clinton mentioned, servers designed for site hosting don't always have much CPU power ;-)
#887 [17:19] <Twinchicken86> Probably no more than 20-30 slots.
#888 [17:20] <Twinchicken86> But our server is 20 or so processors, it's MASSIVE.
#889 [17:21] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: Can you ask for the specs? If you're approximately right and it's not too busy already, then that should be fine :-)
#890 [17:21] <Twinchicken86> Yes I can, FLH.
#891 [17:21] <Twinchicken86> Uno momento.
#892 [17:21] * FLHerne 's server has 3 slots :P
#892 [17:21] <whidgle> nobody able to help me? :(
#893 [17:21] <FLHerne> And 10 at weekends :-)
#894 [17:22] <whidgle> just need someone that could connect to see if it is able to join the server
#895 [17:22] <FLHerne> whidgle: Address?
#896 [17:22] <whidgle> rootbash.de
#897 [17:22] <FLHerne> Sorry, missed u the first time :P
#898 [17:22] <AG_Clinton> 20 or so processors?
#899 [17:22] <whidgle> no problem
#900 [17:22] <AG_Clinton> I believe you are mistaken.
#901 [17:22] <Twinchicken86> Yes.
#902 [17:22] <AG_Clinton> Unless you're running an HPA.
#903 [17:22] <FLHerne> AG_Clinton: Big servers can be very big ;-)
#904 [17:22] <Twinchicken86> It's 15 or 20 seperate processors.
#905 [17:23] <Twinchicken86> A whole cluster of machines.
#906 [17:23] <AG_Clinton> FLHerne: I own a hosting company and am myself a system administrator. I realize this.
#907 [17:23] <AG_Clinton> So you're running an HPA cluster?
#908 [17:23] <Twinchicken86> Yes.
#909 [17:23] <AG_Clinton> For minecraft?
#910 [17:23] <FLHerne> AG_Clinton: Right you are then :-) . I just collect outdated computers :P
#911 [17:23] <Twinchicken86> Not yet.
#912 [17:23] <Twinchicken86> Possibly in the near future, if I can get it to work.
#913 [17:24] <FLHerne> AG_Clinton: If I understood right, he's trying to use free server time on his parents' cluster to run his server :-)
#914 [17:24] <FLHerne> AG_Clinton: If I understood right, he's trying to use free server time on his parents' cluster to run his server :-)
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#916 [17:24] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: Right?
#917 [17:25] <Twinchicken86> Pretty much, yes.
#918 [17:25] <AG_Clinton> I guess I just don't understand why 50+ thousand dollars of hardware/software would be used for a minecraft server.
#919 [17:25] <Twinchicken86> Well, I can't run a server on my computer that I'm getting because our internet is too slow.
#920 [17:26] <Twinchicken86> And, we have the AGP or whatever it is already, so there's no reason not to.
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#922 [17:26] <whidgle> thanks FLHerne
#923 [17:26] <Twinchicken86> HPA*
#924 [17:26] <whidgle> thought its a server issue but seems that just my friend have a issue ^^
#925 [17:26] <FLHerne> whidgle: Seems to work :-)
#926 [17:27] <whidgle> yes, thanks a lot :)
#927 [17:27] <FLHerne> Logging in took about 30 secs though
#928 [17:27] <Twinchicken86> Thanks guys!
#929 [17:27] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: Good luck :-)
#930 [17:27] <whidgle> 30 secs? thats long...
#931 [17:27] <whidgle> 30 secs? thats long...
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#933 [17:27] <whidgle> but well, the server is located at germany
#934 [17:27] * FLHerne wishes he had access to spare time on a cluster that big :P
#934 [17:28] <FLHerne> whidgle: I'm in UK, shouldn't be that bad...
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#937 [17:28] <FLHerne> All I have is a quad Pentium III and a few Atom boxes :P
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#939 [17:29] <Twinchicken86> Okay, I forgot to mention one thing.
#940 [17:29] <Twinchicken86> It's shared hosting.
#941 [17:29] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: /me doesn't get it any more :P
#942 [17:30] <Twinchicken86> Is AG still here?
#943 [17:30] <stickmenz> Heya, I'm looking for a PHP coder to do a cache script for my php file for my minecraft topsite. Thanks :)
#944 [17:30] <FLHerne> So you have a server, which is actually a cluster, which is shared but not a VPS...
#945 [17:30] <AG_Clinton> Twinchicken86: Yes?
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#947 [17:30] <Twinchicken86> It actually is a cluster. It's shared, and is NOT a VPS.
#948 [17:30] <Twinchicken86> Is there any issue with it being shared>
#949 [17:30] <Twinchicken86> ?
#950 [17:31] <AG_Clinton> You have to understand how conflicting and confusing your information is.
#951 [17:31] <Twinchicken86> I'm sorry, I am just telling you what our IT guy told me.
#952 [17:31] <AG_Clinton> Your IT guy or your parents?
#953 [17:31] <Twinchicken86> Our IT guy.
#954 [17:32] <Twinchicken86> He administrates all of our servers and stuff, but my parents run the business that requires all of it.
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#956 [17:32] <Twinchicken86> So my parents are the ones who pay for the servers.
#957 [17:32] <AG_Clinton> Take a dedicated server and install tekkit.
#958 [17:32] <AG_Clinton> It's that simple.
#959 [17:32] <Twinchicken86> I can't afford a dedicated server.
#960 [17:32] * andrewkm is now known as andrewkm|away
#961 [17:32] <AG_Clinton> How can you not afford a dedicated server if you have an HPA owned by your parents?
#962 [17:32] <AG_Clinton> Get a VPS then.
#963 [17:33] <AG_Clinton> Shared webhosting can't run minecraft servers.
#964 [17:33] <AG_Clinton> It's for hosting websites.
#965 [17:33] <Twinchicken86> Our router/connection is WAY too slow.
#966 [17:33] <Twinchicken86> Again, 3.5mbps at best.
#967 [17:33] <AG_Clinton> Then again why is an HPA running a webserver? That's absurd.
#968 [17:33] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: Do you knowwhat a VPS *is*?
#969 [17:34] <Twinchicken86> @FLH - We do not have hard-wired internet.
#970 [17:35] <AG_Clinton> I suggest having your IT guy setup the tekkit server.
#971 [17:35] <Twinchicken86> On what? The web server?
#972 [17:36] <AG_Clinton> No.
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#974 [17:36] <AG_Clinton> I told you a webserver can't host that.
#975 [17:36] <AG_Clinton> Run it on the dedicated server.
#976 [17:36] <Twinchicken86> Why can't it?
#977 [17:36] <AG_Clinton> The webserver runs on a dedicated server.
#978 [17:37] <AG_Clinton> Run the tekkit server next to the webserver.
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#980 [17:37] <FLHerne> AG_Clinton: If it's a ridiculously overpowered cluster, it probably can...
#981 [17:37] <FLHerne> Also, confusion between server programs and computers designed to run those may be occuring. I'm not sure.
#982 [17:38] <AG_Clinton> I think there's some misinformation.
#983 [17:39] <lukegb> AG_Clinton: it might be called the webserver because it's the server which runs the webserver :P
#984 [17:39] <FLHerne> Especially when you have server programs running on virtual servers running on a hardware server :o
#985 [17:39] <lukegb> I suppose you might call it Brian instead. :D
#986 [17:39] * FLHerne thinks someone needs to come up with more words for all those meanings :P
#986 [17:40] <AG_Clinton> lukegb: At that point most admins would NOT want a stray program running next to the dedicated webserver.
#987 [17:40] <FLHerne> Oh, and it appears TC86 doesn't know what a VPS is, which may explain *some* of the confusion...
#988 [17:40] <AG_Clinton> As well as the fact that apparently we have an HPA.
#989 [17:40] <AG_Clinton> We're talking 50 grand plus.
#990 [17:40] <AG_Clinton> That's not a webserver alone.
#991 [17:40] <AG_Clinton> Those are built for heavy calculations or intensive applications usually.
#992 [17:41] <Twinchicken86> It's a shared hosting type of thing.
#993 [17:41] <Twinchicken86> It is shared hosting, so lots of people use it at the same time.
#994 [17:41] <AG_Clinton> That tells me just about nothing.
#995 [17:41] <Twinchicken86> I get it.
#996 [17:42] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: Basically, you either don't know what you're talking about or don't know the terminology to explain what you know. Or both.
#997 [17:42] <FLHerne> Compounded by IRC making it difficult to tell what everyone else means ;-)
#998 [17:43] <Twinchicken86> Okay, it's load-balanced so that one domain recieving more traffic than all the rest will get more CPU power/RAM to it.
#999 [17:44] <AG_Clinton> I give up.
#1000 [17:44] <Twinchicken86> Okay, I'll give you the URL for the site that provides our crap:
#1001 [17:44] <Twinchicken86> http://www.modwest.com/webhosting/
#1002 [17:45] <FLHerne> That makes me even more confused about what you have than I was before :o . Which is quite difficult...
#1003 [17:45] <AG_Clinton> That's webhosting...
#1004 [17:45] <AG_Clinton> You can't host on that like I said before.
#1005 [17:45] <AG_Clinton> So your parents own that company?
#1006 [17:46] <Twinchicken86> No.
#1007 [17:46] <Twinchicken86> We use them for our webhosting.
#1008 [17:46] <AG_Clinton> So they don't own an HPA?
#1009 [17:46] <Twinchicken86> No.
#1010 [17:46] <Twinchicken86> Look at "The Modwest Grid".
#1011 [17:46] <AG_Clinton> Wow see that clears things up.
#1012 [17:47] <Lutzee> Twinchicken86: as long as you can have a secure area on the server with 1 core (not total CPU) and 4gb of ram available with a set IP address you should be fine
#1013 [17:47] <AG_Clinton> Here's what you need: http://www.modwest.com/vps/
#1014 [17:49] * FLHerne understans now
#1014 [17:49] <FLHerne> Twinchicken86: Why disn't you just show us that at the start?
#1015 [17:49] <Twinchicken86> I'll see if I can get anything more from Modwest's forums.
#1016 [17:49] <FLHerne> Would have saved a lot of bafflement :P
#1017 [17:50] <Twinchicken86> I feel like an idiot. :P
#1018 [17:50] <Twinchicken86> But anyways, I'll see you later.
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#1022 [17:50] <AG_Clinton> I believe I just got trolled.
#1023 [17:51] * FLHerne still remains slightly baffled
#1023 [17:52] <FLHerne> AG_Clinton: Accidentally trolled, I suspect
#1024 [17:52] <FLHerne> I know someone who talks like that in RL, can be extremely annoying :P
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#1032 [18:00] <ninjaminer74> help i'm flying around how do i fall?
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#1034 [18:02] <ninjaminer74> i'm in creative mode and flying around unable to come down
#1035 [18:02] <FLHerne> ninjaminer74: SHIFT, I think
#1036 [18:02] <ninjaminer74> ok i'll try
#1037 [18:02] <Lutzee> or double tap space
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#1041 [18:11] <Royal_Tuck> When will minecraft be able to be bought by Credit/Debit card again?
#1042 [18:12] <Royal_Tuck> Anyone?
#1043 [18:12] <DiskDaemon> It hasn't stopped being able to
#1044 [18:13] <Royal_Tuck> It says that it has been temporarily disabled when I try to buy it
#1045 [18:14] <Royal_Tuck> How can I contact them about my problem?
#1046 [18:15] <DiskDaemon> When I try, I get redirected through to the provider, which is moneybookers - who ask me for my credit card details. Things work fine through to there
#1047 [18:16] <Royal_Tuck> Ok thanks for your help
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#1049 [18:17] <ThomQ> Hmmmm.. Can I edit the Painting pictures? :D
#1050 [18:17] <DiskDaemon> The part of the page with a white background, is the payment gateway from the moneybookers website
#1051 [18:18] <DiskDaemon> Yes you can
#1052 [18:19] <ThomQ> I was hoping I could find a bukkit plugin for it. That's the only way to do it through the server, right?
#1053 [18:19] <DiskDaemon> No idea, we don't handle bukkit here. See the #bukkit channel for that
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#1066 [18:59] <CamRudd237> It says i bought minecraft but when i go to sign in and play, it says user not premium
#1067 [19:00] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1068 [19:00] <CamRudd237> that didnt help
#1069 [19:01] <DiskDaemon> Why not?
#1070 [19:01] <CamRudd237> It says i bought it but i cant play that or the demo, the demo wont even load
#1071 [19:01] <DiskDaemon> ?? demo
#1072 [19:01] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#1073 [19:01] <CamRudd237> ok
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#1075 [19:02] <CamRudd237> why wont my premium wont work>
#1076 [19:02] <DiskDaemon> Because read the article.
#1077 [19:02] <CamRudd237> i dont see it
#1078 [19:03] <DiskDaemon> Read more carefully then.
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#1081 [19:05] <Spetsnaz205> how do i become a regular on IRC
#1082 [19:06] <Lutzee> You come here....regulaly
#1083 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> Spend more time on IRC - easy :)
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#1085 [19:07] <Smanly> lol
#1086 [19:07] <Spetsnaz205> how much time?
#1087 [19:07] <Smanly> 17
#1088 [19:08] <Lutzee> Spetsnaz205: that is for you to decide when you feel regular
#1089 [19:08] <Smanly> I just go by 17
#1090 [19:08] <Spetsnaz205> what do u mean?
#1091 [19:08] <Spetsnaz205> like whenever i feel like a regular customer?
#1092 [19:08] <Smanly> Lol, that would be the same principle, yes.
#1093 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> That's the first stage. After that others may recognise you as being regular too, when you're here more often than them.
#1094 [19:09] <Spetsnaz205> well i have been on this server for about a month and i get on as much as possible...
#1095 [19:09] <Smanly> Except... I dont think being a regular Customer of #minecrafthelp would be a good thing XD
#1096 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> Eventually you may find some people saying "when do you sleep?!"
#1097 [19:09] <Smanly> ^ lolyes
#1098 [19:10] <Spetsnaz205> well i have been on this server for about a month and i get on as much as possible...
#1099 [19:10] <Smanly> Yeah... that. Dont do that
#1100 [19:10] <Spetsnaz205> do what?
#1101 [19:10] <Smanly> Repeat the same message.
#1102 [19:10] <Spetsnaz205> why
#1103 [19:11] <Smanly> Its... spam?
#1104 [19:11] <Spetsnaz205> only if i dont a bagillion times
#1105 [19:11] <Smanly> What ever you say.
#1106 [19:11] <Spetsnaz205> ok
#1107 [19:11] <Lutzee> Spetsnaz205: one other thing to consider to make your life easier is an IRC client instead of the web interface
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#1109 [19:12] <Spetsnaz205> what do you mean?
#1110 [19:12] <Lutzee> There are programs that let you connect to the IRC networks without having to have a web browser open, i use Hexchat
#1111 [19:13] <Spetsnaz205> o
#1112 [19:13] <Spetsnaz205> is it free
#1113 [19:13] <Spetsnaz205> ?
#1114 [19:13] <DiskDaemon> I use freebnc to remain connected here (with a log being taken) while I'm away
#1115 [19:14] <Spetsnaz205> o
#1116 [19:14] <Spetsnaz205> wait
#1117 [19:14] <Spetsnaz205> who even promotes me to regular?
#1118 [19:14] <Lutzee> hexchat is free
#1119 [19:14] <Smanly> There is no "Regular"
#1120 [19:14] <Lutzee> Spetsnaz205: no one
#1121 [19:14] <Lutzee> The + next to my name does not mean regular :)
#1122 [19:15] <Spetsnaz205> no i mean on the IRC server
#1123 [19:15] <Smanly> Erm wat
#1124 [19:15] <Spetsnaz205> it says regular instead of user and regs can fly and do other stuff
#1125 [19:15] <Smanly> Where do you see "regular"?
#1126 [19:15] <Lutzee> Spetsnaz205: no such thing, there are no ranks apart from those who own the network, in all intents and purposes everyone is equal
#1127 [19:15] <DiskDaemon> The + next to his name means that the ops trust him well enough to provide good assistance for people who are seeking it
#1128 [19:15] <Smanly> We... dont have a Minecraft server, Spetsnaz205.
#1129 [19:16] <Spetsnaz205> on icecraft
#1130 [19:16] <Smanly> Nope.
#1131 [19:16] <Spetsnaz205> when u get on chat...
#1132 [19:16] <Lutzee> Um... This is the generaly minecraft help channel
#1133 [19:16] <Spetsnaz205> nevermind
#1134 [19:17] * Lutzee Note to self, get a bnc at some point
#1134 [19:17] <Smanly> Its easy
#1135 [19:17] <Spetsnaz205> ik but idk if i want to
#1136 [19:18] <Smanly> You dont know if you want to what?
#1137 [19:18] <Spetsnaz205> get bcn
#1138 [19:18] <Smanly> You dont need one.
#1139 [19:18] <Spetsnaz205> ya i no
#1140 [19:18] <Smanly> I dont think.
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#1142 [19:19] <Spetsnaz205> well...
#1143 [19:19] <Smanly> Yes?
#1144 [19:19] <Spetsnaz205> anyone else a fan of the Soviet Union?
#1145 [19:19] <Smanly> Erm... try to stay on topic.
#1146 [19:19] <Lutzee> You don't need one unless you are paranoid about missing something someone might say :p
#1147 [19:20] <Smanly> Lol, which I am.
#1148 [19:20] <Spetsnaz205> stay on topic?
#1149 [19:20] <Smanly> -_-
#1150 [19:20] <Spetsnaz205> i like my subject better. lol
#1151 [19:20] <Smanly> Then find a channel about the Soviet Union
#1152 [19:21] <Smanly> #USSR ?
#1153 [19:21] <Spetsnaz205> i dont think there is one
#1154 [19:21] <Smanly> #CCCP?
#1155 [19:21] <Spetsnaz205> ill try it
#1156 [19:21] <Lutzee> If there isn't a channel, it will be made automatically
#1157 [19:21] <Smanly> Yeah!
#1158 [19:22] <Smanly> You can start you own!
#1159 [19:22] <Spetsnaz205> yup it made it
#1160 [19:22] <Smanly> Now you wat.
#1161 [19:22] <Smanly> wait*
#1162 [19:22] <Lutzee> oh lord
#1163 [19:22] <Lutzee> I broke something >.>
#1164 [19:22] <Spetsnaz205> no one will no of it though
#1165 [19:22] <Smanly> Advertise
#1166 [19:22] <Smanly> Make a website
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#1168 [19:22] <Spetsnaz205> idk how to do that
#1169 [19:23] <Spetsnaz205> not everyone knows how to make a website
#1170 [19:23] <Smanly> You should
#1171 [19:23] <Spetsnaz205> you know?
#1172 [19:23] <Lutzee> Um.. theres a bot in #lutzee and i can't remember who invited it there >.>
#1173 [19:23] <Lutzee> time to get the bot owner to make him leave
#1174 [19:23] <Spetsnaz205> i can take a class for it but people say it sucks
#1175 [19:24] <Spetsnaz205> about making websites
#1176 [19:24] <Smanly> Making websites sucks?
#1177 [19:24] <Spetsnaz205> no the class does
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#1179 [19:26] <Spetsnaz205> im goin to go now
#1180 [19:26] <Spetsnaz205> bye
#1181 [19:26] <Smanly> o/
#1182 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> Let's hope the teacher doesn't instruct you to create your layout using tables
#1183 [19:26] <carsjfish> When I'm playing, sporatically Minecraft completely kicks me out... any ideas of why?
#1184 [19:26] <carsjfish> When I'm playing, sporatically Minecraft completely kicks me out... any ideas of why?
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#1187 [19:27] <Lutzee> Okay all fixed!
#1188 [19:27] <carsjfish> Lutzee, is that for me?
#1189 [19:27] <Lutzee> no sorry
#1190 [19:27] <carsjfish> k, sorry
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#1192 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> carsjfish: Information is required for such a situation. Try this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1193 [19:28] <carsjfish> Thanx DiskD, I'll give that a look
#1194 [19:29] <carsjfish> exit
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#1204 [19:58] <tspell> y..
#1205 [19:58] <tspell> I could use some help if anyone is up for it
#1206 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> tspell: The flange is on the back of the frobbit.
#1207 [19:59] <tspell> what...?
#1208 [20:00] <DiskDaemon> Would you like some specific help?
#1209 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> ??> tspell telepathy
#1210 [20:00] <VoxelHead> tspell: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#1211 [20:00] <tspell> i need help conserning minecraft launching
#1212 [20:00] <tspell> Ive had it for like a year now, and out of the blue today it says its not compatiable with my computer.
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#1214 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> ?? specs
#1215 [20:01] <VoxelHead> specs: Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#1216 [20:01] <tspell> also, i do have JAVA updated.
#1217 [20:01] <DiskDaemon> What seems to be the problem?
#1218 [20:01] <tspell> Im not sure, i know its a 32 bit computer, java is version 7, and it has 3 gigs of ram
#1219 [20:01] <DiskDaemon> What is the actual error message that it gives you?
#1220 [20:02] <tspell> it doesnt, thats the problem
#1221 [20:02] <tspell> it doesnt even launch the log in screen
#1222 [20:02] <DiskDaemon> So how did it say that it's not compatible?
#1223 [20:03] <tspell> i did a compatibilty check
#1224 [20:03] <tspell> "Troubleshoot compatability"
#1225 [20:03] <DiskDaemon> How?
#1226 [20:03] <tspell> right click on the icon and click troubleshoot compatability
#1227 [20:04] <DiskDaemon> I don't think that may be relevant to the situation.
#1228 [20:04] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1229 [20:04] <tspell> ill try this, be right back
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#1231 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> ah
#1232 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> that's Windows, not Minecraft, generating that message
#1233 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> what version of Window sare you running?
#1234 [20:07] <tspell> 7
#1235 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> aye
#1236 [20:07] <tspell> Error occurred during initialization of VM Could not reserve enough space for object heap
#1237 [20:07] <tspell> thats the error i got
#1238 [20:08] <DiskDaemon> ??> tspell win/reinst
#1239 [20:08] <VoxelHead> tspell: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1240 [20:08] <VoxelHead> tspell: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1241 [20:09] <tspell> I did, and it still wont launch
#1242 [20:10] <DiskDaemon> DopeGhoti: Any ideas?
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#1244 [20:11] <tspell_> Sorry!
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#1246 [20:11] <tspell__> Sorry
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#1251 [20:13] <Eddie> o.o
#1252 [20:13] <Eddie> I'm confused.
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#1254 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> I suspect that he would need to use 64-bit java instead of 32-bit java, but a dxdiag report would be wanted first before then
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#1261 [20:30] <Wug> lol
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#1267 [20:36] <Liam_> hi, i seem to have a problem with my minecraft. i just tried to install a mod and it failed, so I i deleted my minecraft.jar and forced an update and restarted. it still wouldnt load. (it's not a black screen it freezes on the mojang logo) then i tried deleting the entire bin and forced an update, and it still didnt work. suggestions?
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#1269 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> ??> Liam_ win/reinst
#1270 [20:38] <VoxelHead> Liam_: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1271 [20:38] <VoxelHead> Liam_: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1272 [20:38] <Bodkin> Hello im having a problem with minecraft multiplayer. Can anyone help?
#1273 [20:39] <Selbram> What is the nature of your problem?
#1274 [20:40] <Bodkin> Im trying to play on a tekkit server that I know is running but all I get is "Cant reach server". It doesnt matter which server I try to connect to, it gives me this message. I know I have the correct version of the game as well.
#1275 [20:40] <Bodkin> My internet is fine and i've tried disabling my antivirus but it makes no difference.
#1276 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> Bodkin: Sorry, we don't deal with modded ones here. The tekkit site lists an irc location for them though
#1277 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> at synirc.net #Technic
#1278 [20:43] <Bodkin> Okay, thank you
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#1281 [20:44] <Liam_> ummm, i tried the win/reinst but it still freezes on the mojang logo
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#1283 [20:45] <Bodkin> Ahh.. it seems I wont be recieving any help. The technic irc chat is empty...
#1284 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> Liam_: Okay, so something else seems to be interfering with things. Let's get a crash report. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1285 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> Bodkin: I hope that you're not checking on esper.net - they're on synirc.net
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#1287 [20:50] <Liam_> i tried testing minecraft with mcpatcher and it launched fine, and didnt crash
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#1292 [20:58] <Bodkin> My apologies but im back because even though im in the correct synirc channel, and there are people there, nobody is saying anything...
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#1294 [21:00] <DiskDaemon> Bodkin: I don't how how things work there. We don't deal with tekkit here though, or any mods.
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#1299 [21:06] <Bodkin> Alright this time I have something you CAN help with. I cant connect to servers on vanilla minecraft either.
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#1301 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> What issue occurs?
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#1303 [21:07] <Bodkin> It says "Cant reach server". In this case im trying to connect to mc.eternalrealms.net
#1304 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> Can you pastebin for us what you see when you ping session.minecraft.net
#1305 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> ??> Bodkin pastebin
#1306 [21:09] <VoxelHead> Bodkin: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1308 [21:11] <Bodkin> alright but how can I copy the text from the cmd window?
#1309 [21:12] <DiskDaemon> Right-click on it, you see select all. Press Enter to copy.
#1310 [21:12] <Bodkin> here you are: http://pastebin.com/Yfe31CFj
#1311 [21:13] <DiskDaemon> well that works fine
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#1313 [21:14] <DiskDaemon> Bodkin: The only other known reason why that would occur with you, is if you are running a different version of the client from what they are using as their server
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#1315 [21:15] <DiskDaemon> Bodkin: I take it that pinging mc.eternalrealms.net results in successful ping results for you?
#1316 [21:16] <Bodkin> @DiskDaemon yes the ping works for their server
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#1319 [21:18] <Bodkin> So I guess theres nothing I can do. No multiplayer for me at all.
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#1321 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> Not with your existing version of minecraft. You need to use the same version that the server is running
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#1323 [21:22] <Bodkin> I am using the same version. I've tried this with servers that specifically say 1.3.2, which is the version I am using, and still nothing.
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#1325 [21:22] <DiskDaemon> What is the checksum of your vanilla minecraft.jar file?
#1326 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> You can use this: http://www.winmd5.com/
#1327 [21:26] <DiskDaemon> Bodkin: Or we could just start with the filesize of the minecraft.jar file, if you like
#1328 [21:26] <Bodkin> Well the checksum is: 969699f13e5bbe7f12e40ac4f32b7d9a
#1329 [21:26] <Bodkin> Filesize 4479 KB
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#1331 [21:27] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that looks good
#1332 [21:27] <DiskDaemon> So if it's not your connection to them (pings results are good) and if you have the right minecraft (which seems to be confirmed) that doesn't leave many other options
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#1335 [21:29] <Bodkin> Well now im feeling hopeless..
#1336 [21:30] <undead> Whats your prob ?
#1337 [21:30] <undead> problem with essentials
#1338 [21:30] <Bodkin> I cant connect to any minecraft multiplayer server and cant figure out why.
#1339 [21:31] <undead> Are you logged in ?
#1340 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> Bodkin: Someone here seems to have solved the problem, which was caused by a change that he made to his router http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1227892-solved-cant-reach-server-for-all-servers-cant-connect/
#1341 [21:31] <Bodkin> Yes I am
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#1343 [21:33] <Bodkin> Yes! There it is! Thank you DiskDaemon. I have no idea how that change got made but it corrected the problem.
#1344 [21:33] <Tree_Puncher500> I can't force update
#1345 [21:33] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#1347 [21:34] <Tree_Puncher500> When i do, it goes up to 4 percent and fails
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#1349 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> I'm pleased though that we were able to rule out what it wasn't likely to be, which left not much else as the likely culprit :)
#1350 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#1351 [21:35] <Tree_Puncher500> you mean avast!
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#1353 [21:35] <Tree_Puncher500> is avast an anti virus program
#1354 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> Tree_Puncher500: Yes, it's a known issue
#1355 [21:36] <Tree_Puncher500> it wont let me delete avast
#1356 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> Tree_Puncher500: For example: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=99469.0
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#1358 [21:37] <DiskDaemon> Tree_Puncher500: "temporarily disable" does not mean to delete or uninstall.
#1359 [21:38] <Tree_Puncher500> i opened up my task manager and tried to close it. It didnt work
#1360 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> Tree_Puncher500: Instructions on how to temporarily disable your antivirus from many common makers of them, can be found at http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic114351.html
#1361 [21:40] <undead> Tree_Puncher500 You do not want to delete your antivirus.
#1362 [21:40] <undead> Its what protects you from hackers viruses and trackers
#1363 [21:41] <DiskDaemon> undead: Temporarily disabling it so that you can update the game is the recommended solution for the problem.
#1364 [21:41] <undead> Yes I know, he was trying to delete it ^
#1365 [21:41] <DiskDaemon> Keep in mind though, temporarily disabling does not mean to delete or uninstall it.
#1366 [21:42] <DiskDaemon> that he was
#1367 [21:42] <Tree_Puncher500> i'm in avast right now, and i dont see anything that lets me disable it
#1368 [21:43] <DiskDaemon> Tree_Puncher500: Do you see the avast icon in your system tray?
#1369 [21:43] <Tree_Puncher500> what is a system tray?
#1370 [21:44] <DiskDaemon> Right-click on the icon in your system tray, and you should see the shields control. It should have an option to disable it fo 10 minutes.
#1371 [21:44] <undead> Open Avast, go to 'Real Time Shields', select the modules one by one & choose STOP
#1372 [21:44] <undead> You will get an option as to the length of time
#1373 [21:44] <DiskDaemon> Picture of the system tray - http://xtremestylez.com/blogit/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/systemtray.gif
#1374 [21:44] <undead> Open Avast, go to 'Real Time Shields', select the modules one by one & choose STOP You will get an option as to the length of time
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#1376 [21:45] <undead> K tree_Puncher500 ?
#1377 [21:46] <undead> I use Avast so I know how to use it.
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#1379 [21:47] <undead> Or you could use this methood
#1380 [21:47] <Austincr1> I'm looking for some assistance
#1381 [21:47] <Tree_Puncher500> ok i stopped everything for 10 minutes
#1382 [21:48] <Austincr1> I'm having trouble purchasing the game using a mastercard
#1383 [21:48] <Austincr1> Ive tried paypal and the card method
#1384 [21:48] <undead> Tree_puncher500 whos methood did you use ?
#1385 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> Austincr1: What can we help you with?
#1386 [21:48] <Austincr1> I can't get the game to purchase
#1387 [21:48] <Austincr1> Failure everytime
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#1389 [21:48] <Austincr1> and then I have to wait 24 hours
#1390 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> Austincr1: That type of credit card are you using?
#1391 [21:48] <Austincr1> mastercard
#1392 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> Does your bank account show any record of your attempt to purchase?
#1393 [21:49] <Austincr1> Nope, just checked.
#1394 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> Then it would be Moneybookers that you need to contact about your payment issues.
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#1396 [21:49] <undead> ^
#1397 [21:50] <DiskDaemon> Mojang send you through to Moneybookers for payments. The white background area is from the Moneybookers payment gateway.
#1398 [21:50] <sarnomar_> Hello, i purchased minecraft about a week ago and still get "user not premium" message any ideas? i already went through faqs and got moneybookers transaction id
#1399 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> sarnomar: Does your bank account show the payment transaction yet?
#1400 [21:51] <sarnomar_> yes
#1401 [21:51] <Tree_Puncher500> it still won't let me force update
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#1403 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> sarnomar: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1404 [21:52] <DiskDaemon> sarnomar: Use the link called "HERE" to contact Mojang about things
#1405 [21:52] <sarnomar_> ive reviewed the link youve posted, and recieved transaction id from moneybookers
#1406 [21:52] <Tree_Puncher500> did you lie to me
#1407 [21:52] <DiskDaemon> Tree_Puncher500: Let's find out if we can get some details on what is interferring then. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1408 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> Tree_Puncher500" No lies. That is the most common cause for your problem. Now we ge down to less likely causes
#1409 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> sarnomar: What is your minecraft username?
#1410 [21:53] <undead> Tree_puncher500: No, we didn't lie to you. we are trying to come up
#1411 [21:53] <undead> aww
#1412 [21:53] <sarnomar_> sarnomar
#1413 [21:53] <undead> Disk you typed it before me
#1414 [21:53] <Tree_Puncher500> i have no mods
#1415 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> !paid sarnomar
#1416 [21:54] <undead> !paid 457undead
#1417 [21:54] <undead> Cool
#1418 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> sarnomar: Please contact Mojang using the link from that page that I linked for you befor
#1419 [21:54] <undead> *before
#1420 [21:54] <sarnomar_> kk ty
#1421 [21:54] <Tree_Puncher500> enjoy your dirt house
#1422 [21:54] <undead> ty Tree_puncher500
#1423 [21:55] <undead> i luv it
#1424 [21:55] <Tree_Puncher500> minecraft crashes automaticly when i dont force update
#1425 [21:56] <undead> Tree_puncher500: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1426 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> ??> Tree_Puncher500 win/reinst
#1427 [21:56] <VoxelHead> Tree_Puncher500: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1428 [21:56] <VoxelHead> Tree_Puncher500: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1429 [21:56] <mooper> it won't let me play minecraft anymore
#1430 [21:57] <mooper> it just says updating minecraft and then below it it says done loading
#1431 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> mooper: Why not?
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#1433 [21:57] <mooper> I don't know
#1434 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> mooper: The most common cause for that is your antivirus program preventing the files that minecraft needs from being downloaded
#1435 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#1436 [21:57] <mooper> I have restarted my computer as well
#1437 [21:58] <mooper> I played minecraft on it before though
#1438 [21:58] <mooper> so it shouldn't have let me played correct?
#1439 [21:58] <Wug> not necessarily
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#1441 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> mooper: Further information is required to properly diagnose the issue. First try the most common solution for the problem, and if you continue to have further issues we can look more closely at them at that stage
#1442 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> You'll see below the Resources section is a list of common technical supprot questions, one of which is "When downloading the game for the first time, the download stops" where they give similar advice. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/364794-where-can-i-find-more-help-and-tech-support-
#1443 [22:00] <undead> Tree_puncher500: delete .minecraft in your Roaming file next reinstall minecraft to your computer. done . If that doesn't work go to the browser and try minecraft in your browser
#1444 [22:00] <DeceptiKHAAAAAN> Hey there. My question involves using the OS X Minefract client on my Mac. Everytime I download the client, it says that it is "damaged" and should be moved to the trash. Attempting to open the browser client is equally unsuccessful as an error message is always presented. How can I go about fixing this?
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#1447 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> DeceptiKHAAAAAN: RIght-click on it and choose Open.
#1448 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> DeceptiKHAAAAAN: You should be given a confirmation dialog
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#1451 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> DeceptiKHAAAAAN: See the last issue called "Having trouble opening Minecraft on Mac OS X" at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/364794-where-can-i-find-more-help-and-tech-support-
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#1453 [22:02] <Tree_Puncher500> IT STILL CANT FORCE UPDATE!!!!!!
#1454 [22:02] <DeceptiKHAAAAAN> Unfortunately, this does not solve the issue. I am presented with the same "Minecraft is damaged and should be moved to the Trash".
#1455 [22:03] <NinjaKirby> DeceptiKHAAAAAN, that is the most awesomest name I've seen for a while.
#1456 [22:03] <Wug> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1457 [22:03] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1458 [22:03] <Wug> DeceptiKHAAAAAN: ^
#1459 [22:03] <DeceptiKHAAAAAN> Thank you. Been using it on Xbox and other places for a while.
#1460 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> Tree_Puncher500: Can we please get a crash report from you? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
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#1462 [22:04] <DeceptiKHAAAAAN> Sure. Just a moment, please.
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#1466 [22:07] <DeceptiKHAAAAAN> 9/12/12 10:06:31.318 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[133]: ([0x0-0x20c20c].com.Mojang Specifications.Minecraft.Minecraft[1916]) Exited: Killed: 9
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#1468 [22:07] <DeceptiKHAAAAAN> I hope that's what you needed.
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#1471 [22:08] <Wug> DeceptiKHAAAAAN: those crash report instructions would have been for someone else
#1472 [22:08] <undead> DeceptiKHAAAAAN: !paste
#1473 [22:09] <xMonkey2002x> How do I move the texture pack over after it is downloaded?
#1474 [22:09] <undead> DeceptiKHAAAAAN: !pastebin
#1475 [22:09] <Wug> follow the gatekeeper instructions
#1476 [22:09] <undead> DeceptiKHAAAAAN: pastebin.com
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#1478 [22:09] <undead> i thought there was a command for pastebin :/
#1479 [22:09] <Wug> undead: there are a few
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#1481 [22:09] <Wug> but theres no sense making a one line pastebin
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#1483 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> ??>> undead pastebin
#1484 [22:10] <DeceptiKHAAAAAN> I feel like an idiot. Thank you all.
#1485 [22:11] <Guest41032> i dont know if u remember me diskdaemon, but my minecraft still freezes on the monjang logo
#1486 [22:11] <Guest41032> oops
#1487 [22:11] <Guest41032> (my name is liam)
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#1489 [22:11] <Guest41032> brb
#1490 [22:11] <DiskDaemon> Guest41032: Can we get a crash report?
#1491 [22:11] <DiskDaemon> Guest41032: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1492 [22:11] <Guest41032> ok
#1493 [22:12] <xMonkey2002x> ok, thank you.
#1494 [22:12] <Wug> chances are its a mod install issue
#1495 [22:12] <Wug> you might try force updating to see if that fixes it
#1496 [22:12] <Wug> and then make with the log collecting
#1497 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> So a reinstall first before performing the crash report would help
#1498 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> ??> Guest41032 win/reinst
#1499 [22:13] <VoxelHead> Guest41032: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1500 [22:13] <VoxelHead> Guest41032: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1501 [22:13] <Wug> DiskDaemon: force updating is cross platform and easier
#1502 [22:13] <Wug> for the record
#1503 [22:13] <Guest41032> i already did that remember :P
#1504 [22:14] <DiskDaemon> fair enough
#1505 [22:14] <Guest41032> (im liam)
#1506 [22:14] <Wug> no you're not
#1507 [22:14] <Wug> you
#1508 [22:14] <Wug> you're Guest41032
#1509 [22:14] <Wug> you can fix that with /nick
#1510 [22:14] <DiskDaemon> Guest41032: You can change your nick with /nick liam
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#1512 [22:14] <Wug> collect that crash report
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#1515 [22:16] <Guest33267> i copied the stuff that comes up when i test minecraft with mcpatcher so, here it is: http://pastebin.com/ZjhuBmPJ
#1516 [22:16] <Guest33267> test
#1517 [22:16] <undead> I'm making -500 dollars profit every month from my minecraft server D: noone likes it
#1518 [22:16] <Guest33267> also, it doesnt freeze on the mojang logo when i test minecraft
#1519 [22:17] <Guest33267> btw, now it wont let me change my name to liam and it changed it back from liam
#1520 [22:17] <Wug> you need to identify
#1521 [22:17] <undead> Will anyone tell me why my server is so bad and im not getting any donaters ? (IM NOT TRY TO ADVERTISE)
#1522 [22:17] <Andrio|Work> Guest33267, looks like that name's taken.
#1523 [22:17] <Wug> undead: no go away
#1524 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> Guest33267: Remove the mods and then please try again
#1525 [22:18] <Guest33267> i dont have any mods
#1526 [22:18] <Andrio|Work> I tried to change to Artur once; that's taken too :(
#1527 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> undead: Stop doing what's costing you money - happiness will then flow
#1528 [22:18] <Wug> "I don't have any mods"
#1529 [22:18] <Wug> then why does your log say you have 5 mods installed
#1530 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> Guest33267: HD Textures, HD Font, Better Grass, Random Mobs, Custom Colors. Those are in your pastebin
#1531 [22:19] <Guest33267> i have them on mcpatcher but they're not checked
#1532 [22:19] <Guest33267> i could try to delete them
#1533 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> Further down it says "GL ERROR" - what can we determine from that?
#1534 [22:19] <Wug> what's your minecraft username
#1535 [22:19] <Guest33267> mine?
#1536 [22:19] <Wug> yep
#1537 [22:20] <Guest33267> MongooseMC
#1538 [22:20] <Wug> so why then are you not logged in
#1539 [22:20] <Guest33267> oh, ok brb
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#1541 [22:21] <Wug> yar har
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#1543 [22:22] <Liam_> ok, im back
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#1545 [22:22] <Liam_> but it wouldnt let me log in under mongoosemc for some reason
#1546 [22:22] <Novatchurn> I think my domain has been blocked because of my friend
#1547 [22:22] <Wug> Liam_: then recover your password
#1548 [22:23] <Liam_> i know it, and i just logged in on the regular site but it wouldnt let me log in on the help section
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#1550 [22:24] <Wug> well, start by getting your login in order
#1551 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> The help section is at help.mojang.com - and you can only log in there if you have migrated your account
#1552 [22:25] <Novatchurn> No, when i try to purchase Minecraft it says my security certificate has been revoked, but I have done nothing wrong, i think it was my friend trying to get it free after i told him not to. guess he didnt listen, i promise i did NOT try to hack minecraft to get it free, PLEASE HELP!!
#1553 [22:25] <Andrio|Work> You are on minecraft.net, right?
#1554 [22:25] <Andrio|Work> not some other scam site?
#1555 [22:25] <Novatchurn> yes i am on minecraft.net
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#1557 [22:26] <Wug> try a different browser
#1558 [22:26] <Liam_> ok, so what can i do now?
#1559 [22:26] <Liam_> ok
#1560 [22:26] <Wug> Liam_: reset your password by email?
#1561 [22:26] <Liam_> i dont need to be logged in do i?
#1562 [22:27] <Liam_> im talking now, why is there a need to switch
#1563 [22:27] <Liam_> also, my pass is fine i can login on minecraft.net and the minecraft launcher
#1564 [22:27] <Wug> because if you can't prove you own your account, I'm going to kick you
#1565 [22:27] <Liam_> ok
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#1567 [22:28] <Novatchurn> no i cant purchase it at all because security certificate has been revoked because of a friend trying to get minecraft free
#1568 [22:29] <Wug> Novatchurn: thats not how security certificates work
#1569 [22:29] <Andrio|Work> Is your clock set correctly?
#1570 [22:29] <undead> Novatchurn: Security certificates are the browsers way of iddentifying that it is a trused website
#1571 [22:29] <undead> *trusted
#1572 [22:30] <Wug> time appears to be right
#1573 [22:30] <Wug> try buying it on a different computer
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#1575 [22:31] <MongooseMC> back
#1576 [22:31] <Novatchurn> Then why is the reason why i cant purchase it? i click on proceed to checkout after clicking my purchase type and other things it says security certificate has been revoked and i cant do anything at all, and i researched it and people say its because they raised their security on my domain
#1577 [22:31] <MongooseMC> and i got it to migrate
#1578 [22:31] <Wug> Novatchurn: use a different computer
#1579 [22:31] <Wug> MongooseMC: ok, get us another crash report
#1580 [22:31] <MongooseMC> ok
#1581 [22:31] <Wug> preferably, with the vanilla launcher
#1582 [22:32] <Novatchurn> I did, but it connects to the same internet
#1583 [22:32] <Novatchurn> domain, i think
#1584 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> Or this launcher
#1585 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> :ts/launcher
#1586 [22:33] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1587 [22:33] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#1588 [22:33] <Novatchurn> for me?
#1589 [22:33] <Wug> Novatchurn: it shouldnt be related to your domain
#1590 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> But, the log isn't minecraft.log, but is instead in a log folder.
#1591 [22:33] <Wug> no, thats for MongooseMC
#1592 [22:34] <Novatchurn> o
#1593 [22:34] <MongooseMC> here: http://pastebin.com/n9ag7nXU
#1594 [22:34] <Novatchurn> well ive tried on 2 other computers but i still get the same error of the certificate
#1595 [22:35] <Novatchurn> and i cant purchase it
#1596 [22:35] <Novatchurn> just the error page, and i get stuck
#1597 [22:35] <Wug> Novatchurn: its possible its a problem on mojangs side
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#1599 [22:35] <Wug> wait a day and see if it fixes itself
#1600 [22:35] <Wug> ;;~ ts/launcher Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log in a folder called "log" in the minecraft game folder (along with bin, saves, and others) containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running.;;To use it, simply download and double click.
#1601 [22:35] <Wug> <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#1602 [22:35] <Wug> crap
#1603 [22:36] <Wug> ;;~ ts/launcher Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log in a folder called "log" in the minecraft game folder (along with bin, saves, and others) containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.;;Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#1604 [22:36] <Novatchurn> This is what the page says "You attempted to reach www.moneybookers.com, but the certificate that the server presented has been revoked by its issuer. This means that the security credentials the server presented absolutely should not be trusted. You may be communicating with an attacker. You cannot proceed because the website operator has requested heightened security for this domain."
#1605 [22:36] <Wug> MongooseMC: you're still not logged in
#1606 [22:36] <Wug> you've got one more chance
#1607 [22:36] <MongooseMC> im not logged into what?
#1608 [22:37] <Wug> Novatchurn: did you read the message?
#1609 [22:37] <Wug> MongooseMC: you're not logged into minecraft.
#1610 [22:37] <MongooseMC> the troubleshooting minecraft launcher?
#1611 [22:37] <Novatchurn> there was nothing to read but that
#1612 [22:37] <Wug> Novatchurn: yeah, but did you read it?
#1613 [22:37] <Wug> its not a problem on your end
#1614 [22:38] <Novatchurn> yeah it says "You attempted to reach www.moneybookers.com, but the certificate that the server presented has been revoked by its issuer. This means that the security credentials the server presented absolutely should not be trusted. You may be communicating with an attacker. You cannot proceed because the website operator has requested heightened security for this domain.
#1615 [22:38] <Wug> I know what it says, you can stop repasting it
#1616 [22:38] <Wug> did you actually read it though.
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#1618 [22:38] <Wug> merely repasting it doesn't make me think you read it
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#1620 [22:39] <MongooseMC> it says im logged in wug
#1621 [22:39] <Wug> MongooseMC: to minecraft? no, it doesnt
#1622 [22:39] <Novatchurn> thats all it says, it says they raised security on my domain, thats it, nothing else to read, and it has a link to exit the site
#1623 [22:39] <MongooseMC> to the launcher?
#1624 [22:39] <Wug> Novatchurn: it says nothing at all about your domain
#1625 [22:39] <Wug> MongooseMC: you're using the right error report right
#1626 [22:40] <Wug> you logged into the troubleshooting launcher?
#1627 [22:40] <Novatchurn> no it just says that paragraph
#1628 [22:40] <MongooseMC> ya, it says i did
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#1630 [22:40] <Wug> Novatchurn: try again later. final answer
#1631 [22:41] <MongooseMC> ok, now it crashed
#1632 [22:41] <Novatchurn> ok, thanks for your help, ill try tomorrow
#1633 [22:41] <MongooseMC> do i copy the crash report?
#1634 [22:41] <Wug> MongooseMC: open /Users/Liam4655/Library/Application Support/minecraft/log
#1635 [22:41] <Wug> its a folder
#1636 [22:42] <Wug> there should be files in it, with a time and date in the filename
#1637 [22:42] <Wug> pick the most recent and upload it to pastebin
#1638 [22:42] <MongooseMC> ya, theres only one file
#1639 [22:42] <Wug> then pick that one
#1640 [22:44] <MongooseMC> http://pastebin.com/CZEUwMCc
#1641 [22:45] <Wug> hmmm
#1642 [22:45] <Wug> when was the last time it worked
#1643 [22:45] <MongooseMC> and heres the crash report from the minecraft troubleshooting launcher u gave me: http://pastebin.com/JdFv7rdX
#1644 [22:46] <MongooseMC> the last time it worked was yesterday afternoon-evening
#1645 [22:46] <Wug> do you have a high res texture pack installed
#1646 [22:46] <MongooseMC> then i tried installing the friends overlay mod
#1647 [22:46] <Wug> try renaming it
#1648 [22:46] <MongooseMC> i dont have any texture packs
#1649 [22:46] <Wug> you've tried force updating?
#1650 [22:47] <Wug> try it right now
#1651 [22:47] <MongooseMC> the mod failed and i deleted the minecraft.jar then restarted, (force updated too) and it didnt work, deleted bin, forced an update, didnt work, deleted entire minecraft and forced update and it still didnt work
#1652 [22:48] <MongooseMC> i'll try again if u want though
#1653 [22:49] <Wug> it only stopped working after you installed the mod right?
#1654 [22:49] <MongooseMC> ya
#1655 [22:49] <Wug> well
#1656 [22:49] <Wug> computers are deterministic
#1657 [22:49] <Wug> something you did had to have broken it
#1658 [22:49] <Wug> you're 100% sure you dont have any texture packs
#1659 [22:49] <MongooseMC> this has happened before with the capes mod and it finally got fixed after a while
#1660 [22:49] <MongooseMC> yep
#1661 [22:50] <Wug> have you tried restarting
#1662 [22:50] <MongooseMC> restarting my computer?
#1663 [22:50] <Wug> yes
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#1665 [22:50] <MongooseMC> i havent, so i'll try brb
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#1668 [22:52] <Wug> if that works, I'm going to fly to apple's headquarters and barrage them with pianos
#1669 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> If that works, I will set up a shrine to Roy from the IT Crowd tv series
#1670 [22:55] <Wolf_22> I'm trying to create a multplayer server and I can direct connect to this server using the 192.168.*.* LAN IP but when I try to use my router's IP (to test and verify the port forwarding), I get a time-out response. I have verified that the port is being forwarded by using the yougetsignal website and I see that the connect attempt hits the server on the console, but when I try to use the...
#1671 [22:55] <Wolf_22> ...Minecraft game, I get that timeout response. Any ideas why? Local firewall is permitting both the server and the client...
#1672 [22:55] <Wug> ;check Wolf_22
#1673 [22:55] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 50.104.233.45:25565 (Timed out)
#1674 [22:55] <Wug> is the server running?
#1675 [22:56] <Wolf_22> Wug: Yes. On port 6666.
#1676 [22:56] <Wug> ;check Wolf_22:6666
#1677 [22:56] <WugBot> 50.104.233.45:6666 seems to host a minecraft server: You have entered The Province. Good luck. (0/20)
#1678 [22:56] <Wug> seems to work fine
#1679 [22:56] <Wug> some routers dont like you to use the external address from inside the network
#1680 [22:56] <Wolf_22> Wug: Excellent. I guess you just can't connect through a router from the server then?
#1681 [22:56] <Wug> not from your lan
#1682 [22:57] <Wolf_22> Wug: Ditto. Thanks man.
#1683 [22:57] <Wug> some routers support it, looks like yours doesnt
#1684 [22:57] <Wug> no matter, the local address should work fine
#1685 [22:57] <Wolf_22> Wug: Eh, I guess it's no big deal really.
#1686 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> Normally you can, but some routers have an issue when connecting from your lan... as already said above
#1687 [22:57] <Wolf_22> k, Thanks guys.
#1688 [22:58] <Wug> I should add a port scan module to wugbot
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#1690 [22:58] <Wug> that would be thrilling
#1691 [22:58] <Wug> and also lulzy
#1692 [22:58] <Wug> ;portscan xales
#1693 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> I hope that it would have an initial list of most common minecraft ports, to help reduce overhead
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#1697 [23:00] <Wug> nah, it would just attack every open port
#1698 [23:00] <Wug> in an obnoxiously malicious manner
#1699 [23:00] * GreyVulpine throws in an ipv6 address
#1699 [23:00] <Wug> wugbot at this point doesnt have ipv6 connectivity
#1700 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> Can Miencraft even connect to multiplayer ipv6 addresses?
#1701 [23:02] <Wug> yes.
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#1703 [23:02] <Wug> its been supported since like 1.7
#1704 [23:02] <dualfreak1> are there any mods on
#1705 [23:02] <Wug> a few
#1706 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> neat - I've seen so little of that
#1707 [23:03] <dualfreak1> well i need amod that can fix a failed migration
#1708 [23:03] <Wug> dualfreak1: read the topic
#1709 [23:03] <Wug> first link
#1710 [23:03] <Wug> uhh, second
#1711 [23:03] <Wug> the first is the rules. the second is mojangs help page
#1712 [23:04] <dualfreak1> yes but mojang help page dosent help
#1713 [23:05] <Wug> yes it does
#1714 [23:05] <Wug> I really don't think it will help you if I simply give you the answer
#1715 [23:05] <Wug> its a good life lesson to be able to help yourself
#1716 [23:06] <dualfreak1> i typed the wrong email when i migrated my minecraft account and i need to change it and i cant get on my old email at all i havent been on it for 2 years
#1717 [23:06] <Wug> you said you had a specific issue. try looking for things that look like they might be related
#1718 [23:06] <Wug> there is no way around the migration process documented on the help page
#1719 [23:06] <Wug> if your migration fails, you need to be able to provide the required information
#1720 [23:07] <dualfreak1> ya thats y the help page dosent help
#1721 [23:07] <dualfreak1> like what kind of imformation
#1722 [23:08] <Wug> otherwise mojang won't help you, because they can't prove your account is yours
#1723 [23:08] <Wug> the page on mojangs website says exactly what they need from you
#1724 [23:09] <dualfreak1> like?
#1725 [23:10] <Wug> how about you read the page and find out for yourself
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#1729 [23:15] <lukeyluke210> does anybody know why minecraft doesn't show up in my application support?
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#1731 [23:15] <lukeyluke210> why it might not be showing up there
#1732 [23:15] <Wug> possibly because there is more than one application support folder, perhaps you're looking in the wrong one?
#1733 [23:16] <Wug> you did include the ~ in the filename right
#1734 [23:16] <lukeyluke210> i don't know how to access any other..
#1735 [23:16] <Wug> its important
#1736 [23:16] <lukeyluke210> yes, i did that!
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#1738 [23:16] <Wug> you copied and pasted: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft ?
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#1742 [23:17] <MongooseMC> im back :P
#1743 [23:17] <lukeyluke210> yeah, i did that and it pulls up minecraft
#1744 [23:18] <lukeyluke210> but when i do it step by step, manually, its not there
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#1746 [23:18] <Wug> lukeyluke210: its probably hidden
#1747 [23:18] <Wug> just use the full name
#1748 [23:19] <lukeyluke210> what would the full name be?
#1749 [23:19] <Wug> ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#1750 [23:19] <MongooseMC> ok, i restarted my computer, do i open minecraft and login or should i force an update?
#1751 [23:20] <Wug> MongooseMC: try opening it
#1752 [23:20] <Wug> if it doesn't work, I don't know what to say
#1753 [23:20] <MongooseMC> without an update
#1754 [23:20] <Wug> aside from the fact that it appears to be an lwjgl issue
#1755 [23:21] <Wug> you say you've already tried updating it enough
#1756 [23:21] <MongooseMC> noooooooo it still doesnt work
#1757 [23:25] <lukeyluke210> okay so i was trying to install a mod that was supposed to show enchantments, and im not sure what i did but "my world" has disappeared
#1758 [23:26] <lukeyluke210> any suggestions?
#1759 [23:26] <Wug> did you not close minecraft correctly?
#1760 [23:27] <lukeyluke210> i didn't have minecraft open at the time actually. but the next time i opened it, everything was gone and still is
#1761 [23:27] <Wug> before then, you closed minecraft properly?
#1762 [23:29] <lukeyluke210> i save and quit to title then close the application
#1763 [23:30] <Wug> well, its unclear why it happened, but it still happened
#1764 [23:30] <Wug> :lost/world
#1765 [23:30] <WugBot> lost/world: If your world disappears from the world selection screen, your worlds level.dat has been corrupted. The lost data is irretrievable without a backup, but you can make the world playable again. Close minecraft, then using mcedit, open your world, save it, and close it again. Close mcedit, and open minecraft. Your world will appear in the list again.
#1766 [23:30] <WugBot> lost/world: You will lose your inventory and some important information about the map. Without a backup, you cannot replace this information, it is lost forever. See :mcedit for information pertaining to mcedit, and :backup for backup instructions.
#1767 [23:31] <Wug> you will need:
#1768 [23:31] <Wug> :mcedit
#1769 [23:31] <WugBot> mcedit: MCEdit is a tool for editing minecraft maps. It can be used to fix chunk errors and a variety of other forms of corruption, and can also be used to build. To fix chunk errors, delete the chunk. To remove exp orbs, select a large area and delete entities.
#1770 [23:31] <WugBot> mcedit: MCEdit's download page is here: http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#1771 [23:31] <lukeyluke210> ill try that, thanks
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#1778 [23:54] <Coll> So for minecraft 1.3.2 do I need to get a separate executable to host a server or what?
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