#MinecraftHelp > 2012-09-14
#1 [00:01] <techno156> Hello GreyBot
#2 [00:01] <lukeyluke19> how do i get mcedit to work?
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#5 [00:06] <techno156> lukeyluke19, mc edit is a world editor
#6 [00:06] <techno156> this is a minecraft thread
#7 [00:07] <techno156> *channel
#8 [00:07] <techno156> How many bots are in here anyway?
#9 [00:07] <lukeyluke19> i know, i am trying to recover a lost world and was told to use mcedit. but i don't kow how
#10 [00:10] * oldtopman puts some channel statistics in the middle of the room
#10 [00:10] * oldtopman looks carefully to see a Statistics sighting
#10 [00:13] * techno156 reads statistics
#10 [00:13] * techno156 now can't find statistics
#10 [00:13] <techno156> cool
#11 [00:17] <techno156> lukeyluke19, I can't help you there...
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#13 [00:17] <mib_rdru1s> hi
#14 [00:17] <mib_rdru1s> can u guys tell me what "mods" are
#15 [00:17] <mib_rdru1s> ive sasw them but dont know were to get them
#16 [00:18] <oldtopman> ??> mib_rdru1s mods/short
#17 [00:18] <VoxelHead> mib_rdru1s: (mods/short) We do not support mods. For help, try google. For bukkit, ask in #bukkit by typing "/join #bukkit"
#18 [00:20] <techno156> mib, mods are minecraft modifications
#19 [00:20] <techno156> AuBot, do you help out the other users much?
#20 [00:22] <techno156> you can use googel
#21 [00:22] <techno156> AuBot, what about the other bots?
#22 [00:23] <techno156> mib, you can also use google
#23 [00:23] <Kealper> what about the other bots?
#24 [00:23] <techno156> There are apparently 3 bots on this channel
#25 [00:23] <Kealper> indeed
#26 [00:24] <techno156> AuBot SAid"<AuBot> I'm merely a puppet to an unseen master." When I said "AuBot, do you help out the other users much?"
#27 [00:24] <Kealper> that was me talking through AuBot to remain semi-anonymous
#28 [00:25] <Kealper> AuBot is just a program (like the other few) written to help things in here
#29 [00:25] <Kealper> each one generally has their own set of things they do, although there is some feature-overlap
#30 [00:26] <Kealper> and answering your question: i don't help nearly as much as i used to
#31 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> not a whole lot of us old timers do anymore
#32 [00:27] <techno156> old timers? how old are you, (relative range)?
#33 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> blasted real life jobs and all that
#34 [00:28] <techno156> oh
#35 [00:28] <techno156> i'm 15 and have high school :P
#36 [00:28] <Kealper> "old timers" meaning we've been in this chat for quite a while
#37 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> ah,youngins
#38 [00:28] <Kealper> ^
#39 [00:28] * Wug nostalgiates all over Kealper
#39 [00:28] <Kealper> eew, it's sticky D:
#40 [00:28] * GreyVulpine wugs all over Wug
#40 [00:29] * Wug swaps with kealper
#40 [00:29] <Wug> Kealper iz wugstalgia'd
#41 [00:29] <Kealper> lol
#42 [00:29] <techno156> okay
#43 [00:30] <techno156> I got Xchat
#44 [00:30] <techno156> today
#45 [00:30] * Kealper read when he scrolled up to see why someone hilighted all the chanops
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#46 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> that was my mistake. I challenged a mibbit to list the han ops.
#47 [00:31] <Wug> Kealper: except me
#48 [00:31] <Wug> :<
#49 [00:31] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: so i read lol
#50 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> didn't think they would dp it
#51 [00:31] <Wug> poor lonely wug
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#55 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> anyhoo. Bleh at work and needing to get up at dark o'clock
#56 [00:33] <Kealper> dark o'clock lol
#57 [00:35] * Wug wugs GreyVulpine on the head
#57 [00:35] <Wug> that should last about 5 hours
#58 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> ow
#59 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#60 [00:36] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (12:35a Sep 14 12) temp(60.0 F / 15.6 C) cond(Light Rain) wind(North at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(92%) dewpnt(58 F / 14 C) bp(30.26 in / 1025 hPa (Rising)) clouds(Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 600 ft / 182 m, Overcast (OVC) : 1900 ft / 579 m) vis(5.0 miles / 8.0 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#61 [00:36] <GreyBot> Friday: Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain in the morning, then partly cloudy. High of 75F. Winds from the NW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
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#66 [00:42] <techno145> !weather nether
#67 [00:42] <GreyBot> techno145: City not found
#68 [00:42] <techno145> there's a city named hell and no city named nether?
#69 [00:42] <techno145> :)
#70 [00:42] <techno145> what are the bot commands?
#71 [00:42] <Kealper> there really is a city named Hell, though... lol
#72 [00:43] <techno145> I know XD
#73 [00:43] <techno145> !weather minecraft
#74 [00:43] <GreyBot> techno145: City not found
#75 [00:43] <techno145> They whould make something like that
#76 [00:43] <Kealper> that only takes actual city names
#77 [00:43] <techno145> !weather MElbourne
#78 [00:43] <GreyBot> techno145: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#79 [00:43] <techno145> !weather Melbourne Melbourne International Airport
#80 [00:43] <GreyBot> techno145: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#81 [00:44] <techno145> ...
#82 [00:44] <Kealper> you might have to do it in the format of "city, country"
#83 [00:44] <techno145> !weather Hoppers Crossing, Melbourne
#84 [00:44] <GreyBot> techno145: City not found
#85 [00:44] <techno145> !weather MElbourne, 1
#86 [00:44] <Kealper> !weather melbourne, austrailia
#87 [00:44] <techno145> oh, thx for that :P
#88 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> !weather Hoppers Crossing
#89 [00:45] <Kealper> guess it's flood control is kicked-in
#90 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> yup
#91 [00:45] <techno145> flood control?
#92 [00:45] <Kealper> so it doesn't "spam" the channel
#93 [00:45] <techno145> so it deletes the messages?
#94 [00:45] <Kealper> channel = #minecrafthelp, what we're talking in
#95 [00:46] <Kealper> well, it just ignores what anyone says, not deletes anything
#96 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> No. It just ignores the command
#97 [00:46] <techno145> because I get red lines every few messages or so
#98 [00:46] <techno145> okay
#99 [00:46] <techno145> !weather Hoppers Crossing
#100 [00:46] <GreyBot> techno145: City not found
#101 [00:46] <techno145> ...
#102 [00:46] <Kealper> that red line happens when you switch to a different window in your computer
#103 [00:46] <techno145> !weather Melbourne, Australia
#104 [00:46] <GreyBot> techno145: From Melbourne, Victoria (2:46p Sep 14 12) temp(61.2 F / 16.2 C) cond(Overcast) wind(SSW at 2.5 mph / 4.0 km/h) hu(-999%) dewpnt(F / C) bp(30.12 in / 1020 hPa (Rising)) clouds(Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 2800 ft / 853 m, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 4000 ft / 1219 m) vis(5.0 miles / 8.0 kilometers) uv(3 out of 16)
#105 [00:46] <techno145> okay, thx
#106 [00:46] <GreyBot> Thursday: Chance of Rain. High: 63 F.
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#108 [00:46] <techno145> Cool it works
#109 [00:46] <Kealper> the red line marks the last spot you have read before you did other things, so you can easily see all the "new" messages
#110 [00:46] <techno145> Now if only I understood farenheight
#111 [00:47] <techno145> okay
#112 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> You can also see the celcius equivalent there
#113 [00:47] <Kealper> it gives you F and C in that lol
#114 [00:47] <techno145> cool
#115 [00:47] <Calinou> farenheit (approximative): 1.8*C + 32
#116 [00:47] <techno145> Australia doesnt do Farenheight too ewell :P
#117 [00:47] <Calinou> 20°C ~ 68°F
#118 [00:48] <Kealper> temp(61.2 F / 16.2 C)
#119 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm... That humidity value seems abnormal
#120 [00:48] <Kealper> it already gives both F and C
#121 [00:48] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: i knew Austrailia was arid, but wow!
#122 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> I blame wunderground
#123 [00:49] <Calinou> don't blame the underwater city D:
#124 [00:50] <Kealper> !weather KPHN
#125 [00:50] <GreyBot> Kealper: From Port Huron, Michigan (12:36a Sep 14 12) temp(63 F / 17 C) cond(Overcast) wind(NNW at 4 mph / 6 km/h) hu(82%) dewpnt(57 F / 14 C) bp(30.24 in / 1024 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Overcast (OVC) : 1300 ft / 396 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#126 [00:50] <GreyBot> Friday: Overcast with a chance of rain in the morning, then partly cloudy. High of 72F. Winds from the NW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40%.
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#128 [00:50] <techno145> thats cool...
#129 [00:50] <techno145> The humidity is wrong
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#131 [00:51] <techno145> Its supposed to be 20%
#132 [00:51] <techno145> Around
#133 [00:51] <techno145> Aust is rather dry
#134 [00:51] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#134 [00:51] * techno145 shrugs as well
#134 [00:52] <techno145> My laptop battery is going to go flat:P
#135 [00:52] <techno145> And this channel is so interesting and unblocked... :(
#136 [00:52] <Kealper> lol
#137 [00:53] * techno145 moves diamond block
#137 [00:53] <techno145> (after all, this is minecraft)
#138 [00:54] <techno145> !weather wunderground
#139 [00:54] <GreyBot> techno145: City not found
#140 [00:54] <techno145> !weather atlantis
#141 [00:54] <GreyBot> techno145: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#142 [00:54] <Kealper> wat
#143 [00:54] <techno145> wheres atlantis again?
#144 [00:54] <Kealper> apparently there's more than one lol
#145 [00:54] <Calinou> !weather world
#146 [00:54] <GreyBot> Calinou: City not found
#147 [00:55] * techno145 lols
#147 [00:55] <Calinou> hey, what's the weather in the world?
#148 [00:55] <techno145> The weather IS the world
#149 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> apparently atlantis is in fl
#150 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> also africa
#151 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> !weather atlantis fl
#152 [00:56] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From APRSWXNET Lantana FL US, Lantana, Florida (12:18a Sep 14 12) temp(81 F / 27.2 C) cond(Scattered Clouds) wind(NE at 4 mph / 6.4 km/h) hu(78%) dewpnt(73 F / 23 C) bp(30.03 in / 1017 hPa (Steady)) clouds((FEW) : 2700 ft / 822 m, Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 25000 ft / 7620 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#153 [00:56] <GreyBot> Friday: Partly cloudy with thunderstorms and rain showers. High of 90F. Winds from the SE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
#154 [00:57] <techno145> According to Greybot, You guys are in tommorrow :)
#155 [00:57] <techno145> Or the day for melbourne is wrong
#156 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> Nope. It's past midnight here
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#158 [01:00] <techno145> Its friday here, though
#159 [01:02] <techno145> !help
#160 [01:02] <techno145> !motd
#161 [01:02] <techno145> !tutoria;
#162 [01:02] <techno145> !tutorial
#163 [01:02] <techno145> cool
#164 [01:02] <Kealper> those also work if you do /msg AuBot message
#165 [01:03] <techno145> !myip
#166 [01:03] <Kealper> where "message" would be the same thing you'd type in here
#167 [01:03] <techno145> sorry for spamming the messages
#168 [01:03] <techno145> cool
#169 [01:04] <techno145> floodgates?
#170 [01:04] <Kealper> hmm?
#171 [01:04] <techno145> nothing
#172 [01:04] <techno145> came p when i typed and pressed enter
#173 [01:06] <techno145> what does wug stand for?
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#175 [01:08] <Kealper> i'm pretty sure it isn't an acronym lol
#176 [01:08] <techno145> so it seems
#177 [01:08] * techno145 lols
#177 [01:09] <techno145> :D
#178 [01:09] <techno145> It says that AuBot has paid for minecraft!
#179 [01:10] <Kealper> yes, AuBot really does have its own Minecraft account
#180 [01:10] <techno145> That was unexpected
#181 [01:10] <Kealper> lol
#182 [01:10] <techno145> SO the bots have their own accounts
#183 [01:11] <Kealper> the reason for it is this
#184 [01:11] <Kealper> !login
#185 [01:12] <Kealper> that logs in to Minecraft just like the game would, so if there are any problems with the login stuff, they can be easily checked through a simple command
#186 [01:12] <techno145> ...
#187 [01:12] <techno145> Cool
#188 [01:12] <techno145> So if there was a DNS or timeout
#189 [01:12] <Kealper> there are also things like
#190 [01:12] <techno145> It woudl come up
#191 [01:12] <Kealper> !check s.nerd.nu
#192 [01:12] <Kealper> right
#193 [01:13] <techno145> !check b.minecraftpvp.org
#194 [01:13] <techno145> !check b.minecraftpvp.com
#195 [01:13] * techno145 is now known as techno156
#196 [01:13] <Kealper> you probably triggered it's spam prevention
#197 [01:13] <techno156> so it ignored it?
#198 [01:13] <Kealper> it'll only allow one command every five seconds
#199 [01:13] <Kealper> right
#200 [01:14] <techno156> !check b.minecraftpvp.com
#201 [01:14] <techno156> Yay
#202 [01:16] <techno156> Now if only i could play offline
#203 [01:18] <techno156> and on servers
#204 [01:22] <Calinou> 0% lag = lies :P
#205 [01:22] <Calinou> you can't have zero lag
#206 [01:22] <techno156> i know
#207 [01:22] <techno156> you could have 0.0001912% lag
#208 [01:22] <techno156> though it's stytill lag
#209 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> How can you have % of lag?
#210 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't make any sense at all
#211 [01:23] <techno156> My friend had a server with -5% lag
#212 [01:23] <techno156> lol
#213 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Latency, or lag, is measured in the time it takes for a packet to travel from a source device to a destination.
#214 [01:24] <Wug> techno156: it is an acronym, by coincidence
#215 [01:24] <Wug> GreyVulpine: BED
#216 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Gah!
#217 [01:24] <techno156> Wug: What's an acronym?
#218 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> !def acronym
#219 [01:24] <GreyBot> 16Word: 16acronym [ac·ro·nym]
#220 [01:24] <GreyBot>     16Noun:16  A word formed from the initial letters of a name, such as 16WAC16 for 16W16omen's 16A16rmy 16C16orps, or by combining initial letters or parts of a series of words, such as 16radar16 for 16ra16dio 16d16etecting 16a16nd 16r16anging.
#221 [01:24] <techno156> I meant the word
#222 [01:25] <techno156> My days almost finished
#223 [01:25] <Wug> you are not techno145
#224 [01:25] <techno156> my new name
#225 [01:25] <Wug> :|
#226 [01:25] <techno156> is techno145
#227 [01:25] <Kealper> hmmmm
#228 [01:25] <Wug> <techno145> what does wug stand for?
#229 [01:25] <Kealper> !isdown kealper.com
#230 [01:25] <GreyBot> Kealper: It's not just you! http://kealper.com looks down from here.
#231 [01:25] <Kealper> ohpoopy
#232 [01:25] * Wug sends Kealper all of the packets.
#232 [01:25] * techno156 sends Kealper bandwidth
#232 [01:26] * techno156 is now known as techno145
#233 [01:26] <techno145> Better?
#234 [01:26] <Kealper> i'm not sure but i think my dns stuff is down
#235 [01:26] <techno145> try rebooting
#236 [01:26] <Kealper> Wug: can you check and tell me if that domain resolves?
#237 [01:26] <Kealper> techno145: not that sort of issue
#238 [01:26] <techno145> !isdown 192.168.1.1
#239 [01:26] <GreyBot> techno145: It's not just you! http://192.168.1.1 looks down from here.
#240 [01:26] <Wug> ;dns kealper.com
#241 [01:27] <techno145> huh
#242 [01:27] <techno145> internal addresses don't work
#243 [01:27] <Kealper> wugbot isn't here
#244 [01:27] <techno145> wugbot?
#245 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Nooo! Wugbot!
#246 [01:27] <Kealper> techno145: of course they don't D:
#247 [01:27] <techno145> who's wugbot
#248 [01:27] <Kealper> wug's bot
#249 [01:27] <Wug> huh itrandomly timed out
#250 [01:27] <techno145> named...
#251 [01:28] <Wug> named wugbot
#252 [01:28] <Wug> derp
#253 [01:28] <techno145> :)
#254 [01:28] <techno145> so wugbot does...
#255 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> Stuff.
#256 [01:28] <Wug> every possible thing
#257 [01:28] <techno145> I might see you when I get home :)
#258 [01:28] <techno145> Schools over
#259 [01:29] <techno145> YAY
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#261 [01:29] <Kealper> well this is annoying.... i'm having lots of downtime right now, and my server is able to serve just fine :|
#262 [01:30] <Kealper> and yet i don't think its a dns issue, because it seems sites i host for others (who are not using the same nameservers i am) are unreachable as well D:
#263 [01:30] * Kealper prods his server
#263 [01:32] * Zimsky prods Kealper
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#264 [01:32] * Jefus [Jefus@notlogged] has quit. (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
#265 [01:32] * Jefus_ [Jefus_@notlogged] has quit. (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
#266 [01:33] * Kealper is prodded
#266 [01:40] <Kealper> !isdown kealper.com
#267 [01:40] <GreyBot> Kealper: It's just you. http://kealper.com is up.
#268 [01:40] <Kealper> annnnnnd we're back
#269 [01:43] <Kealper> this makes me sad
#270 [01:43] <Kealper> PingdomAlert - UP: Kealper.com Main Server (kealper.com) is UP again at 09/14/2012 01:41:53AM, after 3h 55m of downtime.
#271 [01:44] <Kealper> that means i only get 4 more hours of downtime before i don't get to say "i've had over 99.9% uptime" D:
#272 [01:47] <Wug> huh
#273 [01:47] <Wug> wugbot saw its own ping timeout
#274 [01:48] <Kealper> lol
#275 [01:48] <Wug> and the simultaneous timeouts of 8 other people
#276 [01:48] <Wug> I wonder what happened.
#277 [01:48] <Wug> I didn't disconnect recently did I
#278 [01:48] <Wug> nope, connected since august 7
#279 [01:49] <Wug> it was trapped in an infinite loop somehow
#280 [01:49] <Wug> from after it died
#281 [01:50] <Kealper> deathloops ftw
#282 [01:51] <Wug> I wonder if I can postmortem debug it
#283 [01:51] <Wug> it should be compiled with debug symbols
#284 [01:51] <Kealper> lol
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#286 [01:52] <Wug> looks like I can
#287 [01:52] <Wug> gdb is pretty magical
#288 [01:52] <mib_8rekzz> is there a server plug/mod that allows players to warp/teleport to each other for may economy reduction? like vault etc...
#289 [01:53] <mib_8rekzz> i mean like the admin command /tp <pl> <pl>
#290 [01:54] <Wug> woohoo for sudo gdb
#291 [01:54] <Wug> attach to ALL OF THE THINGS
#292 [01:55] <Wug> pause ALL OF THE PROCESSES
#293 [01:55] * Wug has quit (Ping timeout: 192 seconds)
#293 [01:55] <Kealper> rofl
#294 [01:56] <Wug> weird
#295 [01:56] <Wug> its still stuck in the network reading loop
#296 [01:57] * Kealper pauses ALL THE AUBOTS
#296 [01:57] <Kealper> :<
#297 [01:58] * Kealper pokes AuBot
#297 [01:58] <Kealper> !login
#298 [01:58] <Kealper> neat
#299 [01:58] * Kealper unpaused that
#299 [01:58] <Wug> lol
#300 [01:59] <Kealper> i dare not try that with other processes that are more important than an irc bot lol
#301 [01:59] <Wug> pause init
#302 [01:59] * Kealper doesn't have an init on that server
#302 [01:59] <Wug> sudo kill -STOP 1
#303 [02:00] <Kealper> why do i have a sudo on my server...
#304 [02:00] <Wug> because its good for you
#305 [02:00] <Kealper> which suspiciously has the autoit icon in the system tray.... i get the feeling i made that one time while i out of it...
#306 [02:00] <Wug> lol
#307 [02:01] <Wug> its probably a keylogger
#308 [02:01] <Wug> I'd totally make one named sudo
#309 [02:01] <Kealper> it's definitely something i made, it seems lol...
#310 [02:01] <Wug> what does everyone type after running sudo :D
#311 [02:01] <Kealper> mine would be pacman -S [random shit here] D:
#312 [02:01] <Wug> it would be the highest signal to noise keylogger ever
#313 [02:02] <Kealper> lol
#314 [02:02] <Wug> it could just say you mistyped it and then run actual sudo
#315 [02:02] <Wug> it would be so sneaky
#316 [02:02] * Disori is now known as Disori|off
#317 [02:04] * Kealper looks in C:\Windows where sudo.exe is
#317 [02:04] <Kealper> jan 30th, 2011... would probably be why i don't remember making it lol
#318 [02:04] <Wug> lol sudo.exe
#319 [02:04] <Wug> wrong for so many reasons
#320 [02:04] <Kealper> it's in the Windows dir, so it'd work with just typing "sudo" in a command window lol
#321 [02:06] <Kealper> i also have various batch files in there called like... ls.bat and such, which just run dir with the given parameters
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#323 [02:08] <Wug> I totally just rescued wugbot
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#325 [02:08] <Kealper> nice, nice
#326 [02:08] <Kealper> what was wrong?
#327 [02:08] <Wug> I feel so 1337
#328 [02:08] <Wug> no idea
#329 [02:08] <Kealper> lol
#330 [02:08] <Wug> connection had died for some reason
#331 [02:08] <Wug> it was infilooping in the network read function
#332 [02:09] <Wug> I set some flags and it auto reconnected
#333 [02:09] <Wug> ;save
#334 [02:09] <Kealper> aubot has had an issues like that before, where it was stuck trying to read a dead socket and wouldn't reconnect... i just axed it and restarted it
#335 [02:10] <Wug> ;poke
#336 [02:10] <WugBot> Wug: poke
#337 [02:10] <Kealper> that issue has been fixed now though, since it has a check that if it hasn't recieved anything in like 10 minutes or so (i forget the exact limit i set), it'll instantly call the connection dead and reconnect
#338 [02:11] <Andrio> IceChat has that issue too.
#339 [02:12] <Wug> wugbot has always been fairly good at reconnecting
#340 [02:12] <Wug> occasionally it will reconnect when its not supposed to lol
#341 [02:12] <Wug> I've had it bounce back after ;quitting it
#342 [02:12] <Wug> its never derped itself like that before
#343 [02:13] <Kealper> first time for everything i guess :o
#344 [02:17] * Kealper should build the GNU core utils from source and throw them on his server
#344 [02:17] <Kealper> beacuse yes.
#345 [02:17] <Kealper> because* :<
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#347 [02:23] <Calinou> lol
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#351 [02:39] <Scott> Kealper: You should see the baby kitten.
#352 [02:39] <Scott> I just fed it and it sucked on my finger. I had to slowly squirt milk in the corner of it's mouth.
#353 [02:42] <Wug> i love kittens
#354 [02:43] <Wug> theyre so cuddly
#355 [02:44] <Scott> they're not so delightful when you have to feed them every 3 hours around the clock and wipe their butts with a warm cloth until they potty.
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#357 [02:51] <Wug> im pretty sure they can figure out how to potty by themselves
#358 [02:51] <Wug> they did it before we were around to help them and so they shall continue
#359 [02:52] <Morrolan> undead: Hmm? Was someone spamming or similar?
#360 [02:53] <Wug> Morrolan: are you scrolled up really dfar
#361 [02:53] <Wug> public service scrollcheck
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#363 [02:55] <Morrolan> Wug: Hmm, no, but he highlighted me, which my bouncer logged.
#364 [02:55] <Morrolan> That is, he highlighted every single op in here.
#365 [02:56] <Wug> oh that
#366 [02:56] <Wug> i'd say to ask GreyVulpine about it but he's sleeping
#367 [02:56] <Wug> or he'd better be
#368 [02:56] <Morrolan> oO
#369 [02:56] <Morrolan> You, too, should be asleep.
#370 [02:56] <Wug> wugs are sleep resistant
#371 [02:57] <Wug> for better or for worse
#372 [02:57] <Morrolan> Oh, okay then.
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#374 [02:57] <Morrolan> So, given that Greyvulpine (is supposed to be) asleep, how about you tell me what that mass-highlight was about?
#375 [02:57] <Morrolan> (Don't you dare making me dig logfiles)
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#377 [02:58] <Wug> tbh i dont know
#378 [02:58] <Wug> I just know it was gravy's fauly
#379 [02:58] <Morrolan> Oh, haha.
#380 [02:59] <Scott> actually Wug, no.
#381 [02:59] <Morrolan> My middle mouse button stopped working. :S
#382 [02:59] <Scott> This is a 2 week old kitten
#383 [02:59] <Scott> Up until like 4 weeks, they have to be stimulated.
#384 [02:59] <Scott> Mommy kitties use their tongues...
#385 [02:59] <Wug> I guess thats usually mommy's job
#386 [03:00] <Scott> this is orphan kitten
#387 [03:00] <Scott> I'm it's new mommy
#388 [03:00] <Scott> its*
#389 [03:00] <Wug> you must be so proud
#390 [03:00] <Wug> :)
#391 [03:00] <Scott> Indeed. My little baby!
#392 [03:00] <Scott> lol
#393 [03:00] <Wug> have you thought about college
#394 [03:00] <Scott> Yes, it will go to Yale.
#395 [03:01] <Wug> mister doctor professor paws.
#396 [03:01] <Wug> MD
#397 [03:01] <Scott> It's grey.
#398 [03:01] <Scott> I got it yesterday.
#399 [03:01] <Scott> We took a dog as well. My aunt is fostering it until we find it a home.
#400 [03:01] <Scott> It was literally just loaded with fleas and super skinny.
#401 [03:01] <Scott> The woman said she ran out of dog food and couldn't afford more.
#402 [03:02] <Wug> I hope she didnt have kids
#403 [03:02] * Contex|Away is now known as Contex
#404 [03:03] <Scott> 3
#405 [03:03] <Morrolan> Wug: Meh, there was the "Mibbit sux!!!11" war going on again, and for some reason GV asked undead to "Tell me who is op on this channel", which he promptly did.
#406 [03:03] <Scott> We didn't even know about the dog until we got there. I was just going to get the kitten so I wasn't prepared at all.
#407 [03:03] <Morrolan> So yea, it's GV's fault. ^.^
#408 [03:10] <Wug> hes lucky he missed me
#409 [03:12] <Morrolan> He did not.
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#411 [03:17] <Favale> Anyone know how to solve the freeze up of the game after a couple minutes of playing?
#412 [03:18] <Smanly> Favale: HOw much ram do you have?
#413 [03:19] <Favale> 16GB
#414 [03:19] <Smanly> Oh...
#415 [03:19] <Smanly> Well, it's not that.
#416 [03:19] <Favale> I have a really nice rig. Happens to me at work too.
#417 [03:19] <Smanly> Do you know how much RAM is being allowcated to MC?
#418 [03:19] <Favale> i'll check
#419 [03:19] <Smanly> Thats not how you spell that...
#420 [03:19] <Smanly> Lol
#421 [03:20] <Smanly> I need sleep.
#422 [03:20] <Favale> 500MB for main menu
#423 [03:21] <Favale> About 1GB once the level loads
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#425 [03:23] <Smanly> My noticed that my freezing and what not was better after I gave MC less RAM (256mb) on my craptop.
#426 [03:24] <Favale> I'll keep an eye on my ram then and see if it gets too high
#427 [03:24] <Smanly> But... I wouldn't think that woulf be your issue.
#428 [03:24] <Smanly> You could try that.
#429 [03:24] <Favale> Ya, 16GB is a lot
#430 [03:24] <Smanly> Yeah, lol.
#431 [03:24] <Favale> It uses 10% of my CPU too.
#432 [03:24] <Favale> And I have 8 cores at 3.4Ghz each
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#434 [03:25] <Smanly> Are you using the iGpu?
#435 [03:26] <Favale> ?? What's that?
#436 [03:26] <Smanly> Integrated.
#437 [03:26] <Favale> Not unless the game is trying to somehow. I don't think I have an integrated GPU though.
#438 [03:26] <Favale> Maybe...
#439 [03:26] <Smanly> Lol, you do/
#440 [03:27] <Smanly> But do you have an external one?
#441 [03:27] <Favale> Ya, think I saw the chip when I was installing the CPU.
#442 [03:27] <Favale> I have GTX 580
#443 [03:27] <Smanly> Ok, I don't know what it could be.
#444 [03:28] <Smanly> You could try updating your drivers and java and what not.
#445 [03:28] * Me4502 is now known as Me4502|away
#446 [03:28] <Favale> At work I've had it happen with both a GTX 580 and a GTX 285
#447 [03:28] <Calinou> Smanly, lol "iGPU"
#448 [03:28] * Me4502|away is now known as Me4502
#449 [03:28] <Smanly> o/
#450 [03:28] <Favale> I've updated Java a few times
#451 [03:28] <Calinou> Favale, make sure you have java 64 bit
#452 [03:28] <Calinou> you're on a 64 bit OS because you have more than 3GB of RAM, no need to ask :P
#453 [03:29] <Favale> Ya, I "just" installed that. :) Maybe I'll be ok now.
#454 [03:29] <Smanly> lol
#455 [03:30] <Smanly> That may have been it.
#456 [03:30] <Calinou> nice computer btw :P better than mine
#457 [03:30] * Calinou has 12GB ram
#457 [03:30] <Favale> I'm pretty sure I installed it and then tried the game again and it didn't work. But I really can't remember now for sure.
#458 [03:30] <Favale> Ya, I just upgraded this last winter (USA)
#459 [03:31] <Smanly> Also, Calinou, waddafack is wrong with saying "iGpu"?
#460 [03:31] <Smanly> That's what it's called.
#461 [03:32] <Favale> You know any way to play in "actual" full-screen?
#462 [03:33] <Smanly> F11
#463 [03:34] <Smanly> But I prefer windows, cause I alt+tab a crap ton.
#464 [03:34] <Smanly> Unless im pvping or something.
#465 [03:34] <Favale> K, gonna test this out and see how it goes. Thanks a lot!! :D
#466 [03:34] <Favale> I like the emersion.
#467 [03:34] <Smanly> Yeah. lol
#468 [03:34] <Favale> oooh, that shut the game down. :(
#469 [03:34] <Smanly> O.o
#470 [03:35] <Favale> Ya, really weird.
#471 [03:36] <Favale> I think it's Java.
#472 [03:36] <Smanly> Well, I;m off too bed.
#473 [03:36] <Smanly> Adios.
#474 [03:36] <Favale> K, thanks.
#475 [03:36] <Favale> Adios
#476 [03:36] <Smanly> Probably.
#477 [03:36] <Smanly> o
#478 [03:36] <Smanly> o/*
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#481 [03:43] <Calinou> Smanly|Asleep, sounds like an apple product...
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#484 [03:47] <Darkshadow> Hi, how is everyone
#485 [03:47] <Andrio> Hi Darkshadow, I am well :)
#486 [03:47] <Andrio> ;*
#487 [03:48] <Darkshadow> wanting to get some info about Minecraft. I want get it, but money is tight, and want to know about it, so I can deside if buying is for me
#488 [03:49] <Darkshadow> can you tell me some about it and the andriod version
#489 [03:49] <Darkshadow> whats the difference between the pc version and the android version
#490 [03:53] <Darkshadow> can anyone give me any info?
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#498 [04:34] <Freesum> My computer got a virus and I had to roll back my system 1 day. To the day befor I downloaded and installed minecraft. Now when I try to run it it's stuck "done loading".
#499 [04:34] <Andrio> Have you tried a force update?
#500 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#501 [04:35] <Freesum> I'll try. Stand by.
#502 [04:38] <Freesum> I only have AVG free and Spybot Search and Destroy anti virus programs... Neither of those run firewall.
#503 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> AVG is known to cause your problem. Please follow the advice about temporarily disabling it
#504 [04:40] <Freesum> Fair enough.. How do I go about temporarily disabling AVG?
#505 [04:45] <Freesum> Nevermind I found it.. Checking to see if Minecraft starts now.
#506 [04:46] <Freesum> Still stuck at "done loading".
#507 [04:46] <Freesum> Well... "Updating Minecraft / Done Loading"
#508 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> Freesum: I'd reinstall while your avg is temporarily disabled
#509 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> ??> Freesum win/reinst
#510 [04:47] <VoxelHead> Freesum: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#511 [04:47] <VoxelHead> Freesum: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#512 [04:49] <Freesum> Worked THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#513 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
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#524 [05:22] <Daruliz2222> hello
#525 [05:23] <Daruliz2222> i need help with my account
#526 [05:23] <Calinou> http://help.mojang.com < as we're not affiliated with mojang we cannot help with account issues, sorry
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#535 [05:54] <BobCooney23> When I go on the minecraft launcher and load it. it comes up then i log in but it says 'done loading' and then the scrren goes black and it stays like that
#536 [05:55] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#537 [05:56] <DiskDaemon> If after doing that and performing a forced update you still have the same issue, let us know
#538 [06:02] <BobCooney23> I dont understand ?
#539 [06:02] <tyteen4a03> BobCooney23: Do you have an antivirus installed?
#540 [06:03] <BobCooney23> norton 360 ?
#541 [06:03] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: you look like a bot now :P
#542 [06:03] <tyteen4a03> BobCooney23: Disable, or even better, uninstall it
#543 [06:04] <DiskDaemon> I have been accused of being a bot on many occasions :)
#544 [06:04] <DiskDaemon> It's a state of mind that helps to avoid arguments too
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#549 [06:08] <BobCooney23> when i try to play minecraft the scrren goes black
#550 [06:08] <BobCooney23> screen*
#551 [06:08] <tyteen4a03> BobCooney23: Disable, or even better, uninstall your antivirus
#552 [06:09] <BobCooney23> how
#553 [06:09] <DiskDaemon> ??> BobCooney23 win/reinst
#554 [06:09] <VoxelHead> BobCooney23: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#555 [06:09] <VoxelHead> BobCooney23: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#556 [06:09] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: antivirus
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#558 [06:10] <DiskDaemon> Norton 360 - I forget if temporarily disabling that is enough to resolve the issue
#559 [06:10] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: It's ESET
#560 [06:10] <tyteen4a03> BobCooney23: Right click on the Norton 360 icon on the taskbar, then select Disable Auto-protect
#561 [06:11] <DiskDaemon> Oh hell yes, I was going to run some tests in regard to ESET, but real life occurred
#562 [06:11] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: Oh right, it's not ESET
#563 [06:11] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: if ESET blocks Java's secure connection, just turn the SSL cert filter off
#564 [06:12] <BobCooney23> it didnt work
#565 [06:13] <tyteen4a03> BobCooney23: What didn't work?
#566 [06:13] <BobCooney23> what VoxelHead told me
#567 [06:13] <tyteen4a03> BobCooney23: Disable or uninstall your antivirus first
#568 [06:13] <BobCooney23> how
#569 [06:13] <DiskDaemon> tyteen4a03: Should we get a crash report for the black screen?
#570 [06:14] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: after he tried to disable antivirus
#571 [06:14] <tyteen4a03> BobCooney23: Right click on the Norton 360 icon on the taskbar, then select Disable Auto-protect
#572 [06:15] <DiskDaemon> tyteen4a03: A good way of getting a report log is with wug's custom launcher, found with this command :ts/launcher
#573 [06:15] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: finally
#574 [06:16] <tyteen4a03> I'll try to sleep now
#575 [06:18] <BobCooney23> Thankyou ive not been able to get on its for weeks
#576 [06:18] <BobCooney23> it*
#577 [06:19] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#581 [06:41] <mib_8rekzz> is there any client mod since 1.3.2 like "TooManyItems"? I'm missing some items like the ender portal block and so on :(
#582 [06:41] <techno156> What do you need the ender portal block for?
#583 [06:41] <DiskDaemon> Not Enough Items?
#584 [06:42] <mib_8rekzz> i need the ender portal to go to the ender dragon? ^^
#585 [06:42] <techno156> You can find an end portal
#586 [06:43] <mib_8rekzz> yes but i am the server owner and wanna build it inside the city
#587 [06:43] * techno156 is now known as techno145
#588 [06:43] <techno145> I don't know about that...
#589 [06:44] <techno145> Whenever I try, Nothing happens
#590 [06:44] <mib_8rekzz> but it where possible to make a ender portal
#591 [06:44] <mib_8rekzz> so i'm wondering why it does not work anymore with 1.3.2, but i ever where using the items from TooManyItems
#592 [06:45] <mib_8rekzz> may they had some hidden ones that the normal GUI isnt listing
#593 [06:45] <techno145> I suppose you could use cheats to put yourself in creative mode...
#594 [06:45] <techno145> They do, in fact, there are several hidden blocks
#595 [06:45] <mib_8rekzz> i am at the creative mode, i dont need to cheat due i am the server owner ;)
#596 [06:45] <techno145> Can you build a ring of portal fram?
#597 [06:45] <techno145> *frame?
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#599 [06:45] <mib_8rekzz> so well, is there a new kind of ToManyItems?
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#601 [06:46] <techno145> I have no idea, maybe Google would be of help in that case
#602 [06:46] <DiskDaemon> I said before, Not Enough Items. That mod lets you use the end portal.
#603 [06:46] <techno145> He left...
#604 [06:46] <techno145> I know about TMI
#605 [06:47] <techno145> Though 1.3.1 has a few bugs when connecting to a 1.3.2 LAN server...
#606 [06:47] <DiskDaemon> NEI is the one to use now. Not Enough Items
#607 [06:47] <techno145> Does it work with 1.3.1?
#608 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> But, we don't deal with mods in this channel, so in-depth discussion of such things is a rarity
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#610 [06:48] <techno145> True
#611 [06:48] <techno145> More mibbit people...
#612 [06:48] <techno145> :)
#613 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> DO you want me to look at the download page for you to see if there is a 1.3.1 version of it for you?
#614 [06:48] <techno145> Yes, thank you
#615 [06:49] <mib_cu7b3v> yes :D
#616 [06:49] <techno145> mib_cu7b3v, what about?
#617 [06:49] * DiskDaemon wonders how long he'll wait
#617 [06:49] * techno145 wonders what about
#617 [06:50] <mib_cu7b3v> wonder if there is a working TooManyItem Plug :p
#618 [06:50] <DiskDaemon> The answer is yes.
#619 [06:50] <techno145> Apparently, Not Enough Items is the one to use.
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#621 [06:51] <mib_cu7b3v> ok thanks, ill check it out
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#623 [06:51] <techno145> no problem
#624 [06:54] <Andrio|Away> What's the difference between TMI and NEI?
#625 [06:54] <techno145> the compatability
#626 [06:54] <techno145> TMI hasn't been updated recently
#627 [06:55] <Andrio|Away> and NEI has?
#628 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> They're different mods
#629 [06:55] <techno145> Andrio|Away probably
#630 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> NEI also lets you easily switch between survival and creative, and has some interesting features too
#631 [06:56] <techno145> sounds almost exactly like TMI
#632 [06:56] <Andrio|Away> TMI lets you do that too
#633 [06:56] <mib_cu7b3v> hmmmm. cant find "Not Enough Items" on Bukkit :( i'm stupid or is it called different?
#634 [06:56] <techno145> try NEI
#635 [06:56] <DiskDaemon> From the wiki page: "NEI is a successor to both Too Many Items and Recipe Book. It arose around the same time as Craft Guide when Alexandria and a few others on the IRC suggested that I merge both Too Many Items and Recipe Book to remove their greatest flaws, ironically too many items, or in the case of recipe book, too many recipies."
#636 [06:56] <techno145> Ah, that explains it
#637 [06:56] <DiskDaemon> From the (not wiki) forum page: "Too Many Items was great, but the one thing it lacked was an easy way to search and sort your items. When you had a mod like Red Power coming along with 10000 items both TMI and Recipe Book were racking up the pages. Even if you don't want to use NEI for cheating in items, you will likely feel right at home with the Recipe component of the mod."
#638 [06:56] <DiskDaemon> Will you people please read! :)
#639 [06:57] <DiskDaemon> *sheesh!*
#640 [06:57] <techno145> recipe book was a good mod
#641 [06:57] <Andrio|Away> lol
#642 [06:57] <techno145> So, since were now discussing mods, :P what is tekkit?
#643 [06:58] <DiskDaemon> Tekkit is loathed
#644 [06:58] <Andrio|Away> mib_cu7b3v, NEI isn't a Bukkit mod >_>
#645 [06:58] <techno145> how come?
#646 [06:58] <DiskDaemon> andrewkm|away: NEI comes with a bukkit version - read the forum page for them, for petes sake.
#647 [06:58] <mib_cu7b3v> DiskDaemon, i read it but it makes no sense to me ^^, what that means no?
#648 [06:58] <mib_cu7b3v> *now
#649 [06:59] <mib_cu7b3v> so there is no working mod anymore? ^^
#650 [06:59] <techno145> mib_cu7b3v, it means that NEI is the descendant of TMI and recipe book, both of which are good mods
#651 [06:59] * DiskDaemon gives up
#651 [07:00] <techno145> DiskDaemon, about what?
#652 [07:00] <mib_cu7b3v> so the new mod of toomanyitems is "Recipe Book"? oO
#653 [07:00] <Andrio|Away> no, Recipe Book was a separate mod
#654 [07:00] <Andrio|Away> NEI is sort of the two mixed together
#655 [07:00] <techno145> thx for that
#656 [07:00] <DiskDaemon> Sorry, I'm going to depart this conversation before the demand to hand-hold people turns into the desire to hack away at the limbs
#657 [07:01] <techno145> I was going to say the same :P
#658 [07:01] <mib_cu7b3v> NEI? what a stupid Modname ^^
#659 [07:01] <techno145> The actual name is Not Enouth Items
#660 [07:01] <techno145> *Enough
#661 [07:01] <mib_cu7b3v> ah, Not Enough Items, but well, cant find it on buckit ^^ anyway...
#662 [07:02] <techno145> it's not a bukkit mod
#663 [07:02] <techno145> DIskDaemon, hack at the limbs?
#664 [07:02] <DiskDaemon> Bukkit - top of the page http://www.chickenbones.craftsaddle.org/Files/Old_Versions/
#665 [07:03] <techno145> chickencore?
#666 [07:03] <DiskDaemon> indeed - I've been reading John Dies At The End lately
#667 [07:03] <techno145> interesting name for a book/wiki/whatever
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#669 [07:04] <DCmike> hi
#670 [07:04] <techno145> hello :)
#671 [07:04] <DiskDaemon> And further down is "NotEnoughItems-Server 1.3" for bukkit, which has a client version too
#672 [07:04] <DiskDaemon> Doesn't support bukkit? sheesh
#673 [07:04] <techno145> ...
#674 [07:04] <DiskDaemon> Or translated - furrfu
#675 [07:05] <techno145> I can't exactly post on any of the other minecraft channels
#676 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> See http://www.furrfu.com/furrfu.html for details
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#679 [07:06] <techno145> sorry, accidentally clicked the wrong button on xchat
#680 [07:07] <DCmike> hi guys does your game crash all the time when you try to play ? my game does and i dont know why (its the computer)
#681 [07:07] <techno145> WHat happens when it crashes?
#682 [07:07] <techno145> or before it crashes
#683 [07:08] <DiskDaemon> :ts/launcher
#684 [07:08] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log in a folder called "log" in the minecraft game folder (along with bin, saves, and others) containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#685 [07:08] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#686 [07:08] <DCmike> it freeshes and shouts down
#687 [07:08] <techno145> Does it say "Minecraft has Crashed!"
#688 [07:08] <DiskDaemon> DCmike: Please use that troubleshooting launcher - it will create a log of what happens in the .minecraft/log/ foldre
#689 [07:08] <techno145> Apparently, I'm banned on the other IRC channels...
#690 [07:09] <DiskDaemon> ??> techno145 irc
#691 [07:09] <VoxelHead> techno145: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#692 [07:09] <DCmike> thanks for the link
#693 [07:09] <VoxelHead> techno145: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#694 [07:09] * DiskDaemon taps feet
#694 [07:09] <techno145> oh, thx voxelhead
#695 [07:09] <techno145> and diskdaemon
#696 [07:10] <techno145> cool
#697 [07:10] * techno145 has now finished registering! :D
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#700 [07:21] <techno145> DiskDaemon: SO Voxelhead manages IRC enquiries?
#701 [07:22] <DiskDaemon> We use VoxelHead to help manage many things
#702 [07:22] <techno145> okay
#703 [07:22] * techno145 nods
#703 [07:23] <techno145> so GreyBot manages other stuff that AuBot, VoxelHead and WugBot don't cover?
#704 [07:24] <techno145> oh... I just realised... Highlight spam again... damn it!
#705 [07:24] <DiskDaemon> There is some overlap between them, for the sake of redundency
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#707 [07:25] <techno145> though,, bwtween the 4 of them ,they cover almost everything?
#708 [07:25] <DiskDaemon> everything within reason
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#713 [07:27] <DiskDaemon> The short list of what voxelhead deals with is found in its index
#714 [07:27] <DiskDaemon> ?? index
#715 [07:27] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#716 [07:27] <DiskDaemon> The detailed list is at http://tinypaste.com/81717f5c
#717 [07:28] <techno145> just wondering whats the ??, ! ??> ?
#718 [07:28] <techno145> I wonder...
#719 [07:28] <techno145> ?? help
#720 [07:28] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#721 [07:28] <DiskDaemon> ?? help
#722 [07:28] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#723 [07:29] <techno145> Okay
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#725 [07:29] <techno145> SO the bots have different command prefixes?
#726 [07:29] <DiskDaemon> they do - it helps to prevent them from clobbering each other
#727 [07:30] <DiskDaemon> for example...
#728 [07:30] <DiskDaemon> ;check
#729 [07:30] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: sg.freeBNC.net:25565 (Timed out)
#730 [07:30] <DiskDaemon> !check
#731 [07:31] <techno145> !check 54.251.62.58
#732 [07:31] <techno145> huh...
#733 [07:31] <techno145> ; help
#734 [07:32] <DiskDaemon> That's my bouncer - the check works when your ip address is running a minecraft server, or when you give the check command an ip address of one that does
#735 [07:32] <DiskDaemon> !check s.nerd.nu
#736 [07:33] <techno145> s.nerd.nu sounds like an interesting server
#737 [07:33] <techno145> ; check b.minecraftpvp.com
#738 [07:33] <WugBot> b.minecraftpvp.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: www.mcpvp.com - 0% lag (47/120)
#739 [07:33] <techno145> !check b.minecraftpvp.com
#740 [07:34] <techno145> still 0% lag
#741 [07:34] <techno145> :D
#742 [07:34] <techno145> ; help
#743 [07:34] <techno145> okay, so help doesn't always work\
#744 [07:35] <DiskDaemon> Please try to not abuse the bots though. They tend to have their own channels for experimentation, such s ##voxelhead or ##wugbot
#745 [07:35] <techno145> lets see, aubot manages general stuff, voxelhead manages FAQs, WugBot checks for the presence of Minecraft servers
#746 [07:35] <techno145> thats cool to know
#747 [07:36] <DiskDaemon> plus more - you pick up on what's used for what in time spent here
#748 [07:36] <DCmike> finaly my game runs smoothly thanks for the link.... wugbot was it ?
#749 [07:38] <DiskDaemon> VoxelHead's the one with most of the infodump content
#750 [07:38] <techno145> okay, cool
#751 [07:38] <techno145> i might spend half my weekend here :D
#752 [07:39] <techno145> does greybot have a channel?
#753 [07:40] <techno145> ??lan
#754 [07:40] <DiskDaemon> apparently not
#755 [07:40] <techno145> huh
#756 [07:40] <techno145> ??< lan
#757 [07:40] <techno145> ??< Linux\client
#758 [07:41] <techno145> ??< index
#759 [07:41] <techno145> ??< Linux
#760 [07:41] <techno145> ...
#761 [07:41] <techno145> oh
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#763 [07:41] <techno145> My home computer (WHich I am on) runs linux
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#765 [07:43] <techno145> SO what's the prefix for GreyBot?
#766 [07:44] <DiskDaemon> that one uses ! too
#767 [07:44] <DiskDaemon> !isdown mojang.com
#768 [07:44] <GreyBot> DiskDaemon: It's just you. http://mojang.com is up.
#769 [07:44] <techno145> okay
#770 [07:44] <techno145> !isdown 203.119.225.3
#771 [07:44] <GreyBot> techno145: It's not just you! http://203.119.225.3 looks down from here.
#772 [07:45] <techno145> what does it mean by "looks down from here"?
#773 [07:45] <DiskDaemon> It means there's no response
#774 [07:45] <techno145> There appears to be a typo in Voxelhead's responses
#775 [07:45] <Necrodoom> it means bot cannot connect to it
#776 [07:45] <techno145> okay
#777 [07:46] <techno145> "I don't have an entry in may databse..."
#778 [07:46] <DiskDaemon> Which tyop would that be?
#779 [07:46] <techno145> databse is supposed to be database
#780 [07:46] <techno145> sorry, i tend to make typos of my own...
#781 [07:46] <techno145> ;check mojang.com
#782 [07:46] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: mojang.com:25565 (Timed out)
#783 [07:47] <techno145> ;check mojang.com
#784 [07:47] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: mojang.com:25565 (Timed out)
#785 [07:47] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, we'll get DopeGhoti to take a look at that at some stage
#786 [07:47] <techno145> DopeGhoti?
#787 [07:47] <Necrodoom> techno145: check is for servers
#788 [07:47] <techno145> okay
#789 [07:47] <techno145> so WugBot tries to log in as a player?
#790 [07:47] <Necrodoom> isdown is for websites, i see
#791 [07:48] <techno145> isdown can also be for servers
#792 [07:50] <techno145> voxelhead's channel has no ops...
#793 [07:51] <techno145> lol
#794 [07:51] <DiskDaemon> Sometimes ops remove their op status, and only reinstate it when needed
#795 [07:51] <techno145> oh
#796 [07:54] <techno145> Whats /ghost?
#797 [07:56] <DiskDaemon> If you have a nickname that's logged in that shouldn't be logged in, you can use /ghost to disconnect that username from the server
#798 [07:56] <techno145> so if there is update lag or something
#799 [07:56] <DiskDaemon> So, DiskDaemon may be already logged in, and I log in as DiskDaemon_ but I want to get back to my normal account. I would use /ghost to disconnect DiskDaemon and then change my nickname from DiskDaemon_ to DiskDaemon
#800 [07:57] <techno145> SO what if theotehr person is another person or bot or something?
#801 [07:57] <techno145> *the other
#802 [07:58] <Andrio|Away> They get kicked off the server
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#804 [07:58] <techno145> so what's the bit abotu <password>
#805 [07:58] <DiskDaemon> Then you would run the risk of getting in big trouble
#806 [07:58] <techno145> *about
#807 [07:58] <techno145> Just wondering what if someone likes the name "ChanServ"
#808 [07:58] <techno145> XD
#809 [07:58] <DiskDaemon> If the account is a registered account, you would need the password
#810 [07:58] <techno145> and if it's a bot?
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#812 [07:59] <techno145> *|Away=why?
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#814 [07:59] <DiskDaemon> It helps you to know that they're currently away
#815 [08:00] <techno145> SO they stick that onto their name?
#816 [08:00] <Andrio> yep.
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#818 [08:00] <DiskDaemon> /nick UserName UserName|Away
#819 [08:00] <DiskDaemon> that sort of thing
#820 [08:00] <techno145> cool
#821 [08:00] <techno145> i'm learning actual stuff :D
#822 [08:01] <DiskDaemon> Although, I prefer to use the /away command instead
#823 [08:01] <techno145> In my case, I just type [Alt]+[A]
#824 [08:01] <DiskDaemon> How to idle on IRC - http://bisqwit.iki.fi/jutut/away.html
#825 [08:01] <techno145> ??< idling
#826 [08:02] <Andrio> I used to do Alt+A too
#827 [08:02] <Andrio> but I prefer /allserv away
#828 [08:02] <techno145> that seems to work
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#830 [08:03] <techno145> I still find it hard to believe that the bots can find out the weather
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#832 [08:03] <DiskDaemon> They use a service
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#834 [08:04] <techno156> SO many name changes...
#835 [08:04] <DiskDaemon> VoxelHead even polls its own local weather, and lets us know when wind get high, or lightning is in the area
#836 [08:04] <techno156> cool
#837 [08:05] <techno156> Unfortunatly, I live in melbourne, with -999% humidity :D
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#841 [08:06] <DiskDaemon> I live in Christchurch with similar humidity issues - the Southern Alps dump all the water to the east, resulting in dry as a bone nor-westers for us
#842 [08:06] <techno156> that might have triggered the flood function
#843 [08:06] <techno156> !weather Melbourne, Victoria
#844 [08:06] <GreyBot> techno156: From Melbourne, Victoria (10:05p Sep 14 12) temp(57.1 F / 13.9 C) cond(Mostly Cloudy) wind(WNW at 1.0 mph / 1.6 km/h) hu(-999%) dewpnt(F / C) bp(30.24 in / 1024 hPa (Rising)) clouds((FEW) : 2000 ft / 609 m, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 3500 ft / 1066 m) vis(6.2 miles / 10.0 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#845 [08:06] <GreyBot> Thursday: Chance of Rain. High: 63 F.
#846 [08:07] <techno156> Humidity still at -999%, even when it's reaining XD
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#859 [08:32] <n00bie> hello, can somebody help me with my minecraft server installation on ubuntu 12.04?
#860 [08:32] <n00bie> the server ist hanging on startup
#861 [08:40] * Selbram|away is now known as Selbram
#862 [08:41] * Calinou welcomes the ubuntu user
#862 [08:41] <Calinou> n00bie: make sure you mark the .jar file as executable: chmod +x file_name
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#864 [08:42] <Calinou> make sure you leave server-ip empty in server.properties too
#865 [08:44] <n00bie> dear calinou it is marked as executable and the server.properties is fresh generated, so there is no ip in there
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#867 [08:46] <Andrio> He's gone
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#869 [08:48] <hamano67> hi
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#871 [08:53] <Andrio> Hi
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#874 [08:56] <Nattehine> Hi. I'm experiencing some issues with migrating my account. The mail which I used when I created my minecraft.net account no longer exist and from what I could find there is no way of migrating your account to your new mail, or I've just missed it. I would very much appreciate help on this matter.
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#879 [09:02] <NinjaKirby> Damnit, I just found the help page which covers exactly that situation. I'd like to hope he just found the same for him/herself.
#880 [09:02] <NinjaKirby> *he/she
#881 [09:03] <n00bie> who?
#882 [09:03] <n00bie> me?
#883 [09:03] <NinjaKirby> Negative, Nattehine
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#885 [09:04] <NinjaKirby> Looking back, Server installation on linux? I have only dealt with Windows, not sure I could be of assistance tbh
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#888 [09:13] <Selbram> and what do mean by hanging on startup?
#889 [09:13] <Selbram> *fires up ubuntu virtual machine*
#890 [09:14] <Selbram> n00bie: You are still there right?
#891 [09:15] <Boreeas> n00bie: java -jar path/to/server.jar
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#898 [09:21] <n00bie> sorry, was afk
#899 [09:21] <n00bie> yes i am still here
#900 [09:22] <Boreeas> n00bie: Starting it with java -jar, does that work?
#901 [09:22] <n00bie> i means i am starting the server with root right over java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar craftbukkit.jar nogui
#902 [09:24] <n00bie> and at the moment its loading until : [INFO] This server is running CraftBukkit version git-Bukkit-1.3.1-R2.0-b2340jnks (MC: 1.3.1) (Implementing API version 1.3.1-R2.0)
#903 [09:24] <n00bie> and after that, nothing happen
#904 [09:25] <Selbram> you are in the wrong channel :)
#905 [09:25] <Selbram> you need to go to #bukkit
#906 [09:25] <Selbram> I can help you from there
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#908 [09:27] <Selbram> n00bie: /join #bukkit
#909 [09:27] <Selbram> I lurk on both of these channels
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#920 [10:00] <Demented> Why cant i buy the game with ELV from germany? It says that you cant biy the game with ELV so why is it an option on their site? ..
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#945 [11:18] <Bob> I can't my vidio card drivers to work
#946 [11:19] <ShtgnShryl> hey i just bought minecraft and dowloaded it but it keeps cutting me off while playing and saying i dont have enough memory when i defo have got enough memory
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#949 [11:20] <NinjaKirby> ShtgnShryl: The official Minecraft Download page has instructions for launching the Minecraft client with extra memory allocation
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#951 [11:20] <mib_oev72p> i cANT join a server
#952 [11:21] <ShtgnShryl> you have a link to tht exact page plz?
#953 [11:21] <NinjaKirby> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#954 [11:21] <Boreeas> http://minecraft.net/download
#955 [11:21] <mib_oev72p> i cant join a server it says timed out
#956 [11:21] <ShtgnShryl> thankyoooooou
#957 [11:21] <NinjaKirby> Click Show All Platforms, and select the Linux method (Even though you are on Windows)
#958 [11:22] <NinjaKirby> The XMS and XMX settings define the minimum and maximum memory settings
#959 [11:22] <mib_oev72p> hellllllooooo
#960 [11:22] <Boreeas> NinjaKirby: Initial and maximum, actually
#961 [11:22] <Boreeas> I'm not sure if the heap can shrink
#962 [11:22] <Andrio> mib_oev72p, what server?
#963 [11:23] <NinjaKirby> Boreeas: Thank you
#964 [11:23] <NinjaKirby> I didn't know that :P
#965 [11:23] <mib_oev72p> any server
#966 [11:23] <Boreeas> mib_oev72p: Try s.nerd.nu
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#968 [11:24] <mib_oev72p> timed out again
#969 [11:24] <Boreeas> What do you see if you visit this page
#970 [11:24] <Boreeas> http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test
#971 [11:24] <mib_oev72p> Bad Login
#972 [11:25] <mib_oev72p> bad login
#973 [11:26] <Boreeas> Open the command prompt and enter "ping nerd.nu"
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#976 [11:27] <mib_oev72p> what command mod
#977 [11:27] <Vince> Hello, I have the problem; "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers."
#978 [11:28] <Vince> I tried to update my video card from searching automatically online and it said my card was up to date
#979 [11:28] <Lutzee> ??> Vince win/dxdiag
#980 [11:28] <VoxelHead> Vince: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#981 [11:28] <VoxelHead> Vince: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#982 [11:28] <Vince> I'm confused, not too into these things, what do you mean by Win+R?
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#984 [11:29] <Lutzee> windows key is between ctrl and alt keys
#985 [11:29] <Vince> Oh okay
#986 [11:29] <Vince> I did that and typed dxdiag
#987 [11:29] <mib_oev72p> helllllllloooooooo
#988 [11:29] <Lutzee> Vince: continue to follow the instructions
#989 [11:30] <Andrio> mib_oev72p, looks like s.nerd.nu is up
#990 [11:30] <Andrio> try temporarily disabling your antivirus and/or firewall
#991 [11:31] <mib_oev72p> it doesnt have firewll
#992 [11:31] <Boreeas> s.nerd.nu is up, the question is if he can ping it
#993 [11:31] <mib_oev72p> how do i do that
#994 [11:31] <Vince> http://pastebucket.com/2913
#995 [11:31] <Boreeas> mib_oev72p: Press the windows key + R, enter "cmd", hit enter
#996 [11:32] <mib_oev72p> ok
#997 [11:32] <Lutzee> ??> Vince gpu/nvidia
#998 [11:32] <VoxelHead> Vince: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#999 [11:32] <mib_oev72p> now what
#1000 [11:32] <Vince> Thanks, but I tried that and for some reason when I try to automatically detect the driver it says I don't have java
#1001 [11:32] <Lutzee> Vince: windows often does not know about the latest drivers when it scans it's own database
#1002 [11:33] <Vince> Oh okay
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#1005 [11:33] <ThomQ> Hi all!
#1006 [11:33] <Lutzee> Vince: your graphics chipset is a Geforce SE try finiding the drivers manually
#1007 [11:33] <Andrio> Hi ThomQ
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#1010 [11:34] <Vince> I'm trying but honestly, I'm not sure what to select; thanks guys
#1011 [11:34] <ThomQ> Is there a place I can go to get help with my Minecraft addiction?? :P
#1012 [11:34] <ShtgnShryl> ok i followed all of the instructions that i was told and minecraft still kicks me and claims there is not enough memory. is there a customer support number i can phone?
#1013 [11:35] <NinjaKirby> ShtgnShryl: Running the Linux minecraft.jar with the .bat failed?
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#1016 [11:35] <NinjaKirby> There isn't a support number, but an Email option is available, albeit with a fair wait time.
#1017 [11:36] <Lutzee> Vince: give me a minute and i will find it
#1018 [11:36] <Vince> Thank you sir
#1019 [11:36] <ShtgnShryl> well i guess so it still wont let me play for more than 2 minutes.
#1020 [11:36] <Vince> Or ma'am
#1021 [11:36] <Boreeas> mib_oev72p: In the console/command prompt that appears, enter "ping nerd.nu"
#1022 [11:36] <Boreeas> Hit enter
#1023 [11:37] <mib_oev72p> iiiii canttt coneecccct to a minecrafttttt serveerrrr it sayyysssss timedddd outttt
#1024 [11:37] <Boreeas> What output do you get?
#1025 [11:37] <NinjaKirby> ShtgnShryl:Did you change the XMX value to say, 1536 or 2048? Assuming you actually have the RAM available to reserve that
#1026 [11:37] <Boreeas> mib_oev72p: No spamming please
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#1028 [11:38] <Lutzee> Vince: try this http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_vista_win7_64bit_15.49.html
#1029 [11:38] <mib_oev72p> how do i tell
#1030 [11:38] <Vince> Okay, thank you; trying it now
#1031 [11:38] <ShtgnShryl> well considering this is a new laptop with 8g ram i should think it would
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#1033 [11:38] <Lutzee> ShtgnShryl: are you trying to load a high res texture pack at all?
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#1035 [11:39] <ShtgnShryl> no
#1036 [11:39] <NinjaKirby> Switching to 64bit Java has also solved some Memory issues for me in the past.
#1037 [11:40] <ThomQ> ffuuuu, My server seems to not have saved last night's session :O
#1038 [11:40] <ThomQ> how could that be? 4 hours of building gone :(
#1039 [11:40] <mib_oev72p> hellllllllpppppppppp meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
#1040 [11:40] <NinjaKirby> I suppose you did gracefully close the server, ThomQ? :/
#1041 [11:40] <Lutzee> ThomQ: did you have saving turned off and did you stop the server gracefully? (using the stop command)
#1042 [11:40] <NinjaKirby> lerl
#1043 [11:40] <Andrio> autosave <3
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#1045 [11:41] <Andrio> [01:36:31] <+24Boreeas> mib_oev72p: In the console/command prompt that appears, enter "ping nerd.nu"
#1046 [11:41] <Andrio> [01:36:36] <+24Boreeas> Hit enter
#1047 [11:41] <ThomQ> Lutzee: Where do I find the save option, and no, I hard quit :O
#1048 [11:41] <NinjaKirby> "save-all" I believe is the forceful command
#1049 [11:41] <ThomQ> I do seem to have my Gear, but the world itself isn't saved though
#1050 [11:41] <Lutzee> ThomQ: well typing /save-on would make sure that it saves every few seconds :p
#1051 [11:41] <ThomQ> in the server console?
#1052 [11:42] <Lutzee> in the server console you don't need the /
#1053 [11:42] <mib_oev72p> i did
#1054 [11:42] <Lutzee> but you can also perform those commands if you are opped on the server
#1055 [11:42] <ThomQ> Enabled level saving..
#1056 [11:42] <Andrio> mib_oev72p, what happened?
#1057 [11:42] <ThomQ> omg, my friends are going to be Pissed :P
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#1059 [11:42] <mib_oev72p> it says im timed out on every server
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#1062 [11:43] <ThomQ> Another question. Regarding water. I can't seem to get the water level of our canal / moat nice and even. Its a canal between a Huge river, and a lake. When I take down the last walls and let the water flow in, it doesn't fill the whole canal
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#1064 [11:44] <Selbram> buckets
#1065 [11:44] <Selbram> of
#1066 [11:44] <Selbram> water
#1067 [11:44] <Selbram> you have to fill it manually or use a plugin to assist
#1068 [11:44] <ThomQ> So I started using buckets of water to fill it up. The best I could do though is a kind of weird current: starting from both edges flowing inward towards the middle
#1069 [11:45] <ThomQ> Selbram: Do buckets always create currents?
#1070 [11:45] <Selbram> you could use something like worldedit which has a //fixwater command that flattens it all out for you
#1071 [11:45] <Selbram> yeah
#1072 [11:45] <ThomQ> okok, I'll check the bukkit plugin list :)
#1073 [11:46] <ThomQ> Is there a gameplay reason water reacts the way it does in Vanilla though?
#1074 [11:47] <Andrio> Boreeas, you still here?
#1075 [11:47] <Boreeas> Andrio: Yeah, but as longas he doesn't do what we tell him, I'm not helping him
#1076 [11:48] <Boreeas> Andrio: Yeah, but as long as he doesn't do what we tell him, I'm not helping him
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#1078 [11:48] <NinjaKirby> wert
#1079 [11:48] <Selbram> it use to spread infinitly in classic creative... which was hilarious
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#1081 [11:49] <Lutzee> ThomQ: if water acts the way you want it then the world would flood over very quickly
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#1083 [11:50] <ThomQ> yeah exactly.. One little hole somewhere, and half of the underground caves get flooded
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#1091 [12:05] <ThomQ> Do jungletrees have saplings? Or do I have to plant the cocoa beans?
#1092 [12:06] <Lutzee> jungle trees have their own saplings
#1093 [12:07] <ThomQ> ahh ok
#1094 [12:07] <ThomQ> and when I take down a tree. and the leave blocks start fading, will they reveal the apples and sapplings? Or do i have to bash those out of the leave blocks?
#1095 [12:09] <Lutzee> as long as theres no logs left they will decay and drops saplings and apples
#1096 [12:10] <ThomQ> Ahhh excellent
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#1100 [12:21] <Calinou> monospace font makes you look so pro :P
#1101 [12:22] <NinjaKirby> I couldn't live without Fixedsys
#1102 [12:23] <Andrio> Yuck
#1103 [12:23] <NinjaKirby> Reading chat with... polyspace(?) is horrible
#1104 [12:26] <Calinou> well, fixed-width, not the "monospace" font, monospace is french for fixed-width
#1105 [12:26] <Calinou> I use dejavu sans mono 10 :P
#1106 [12:26] <Calinou> fixed width fonts don't break ASCII art, at least. and they're more readable IMO
#1107 [12:28] * Calinou is still getting used to the font, though
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#1108 [12:33] <Calinou> thou shalt not smite the user
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#1110 [12:35] <Boreeas> Calinou: You called?
#1111 [12:36] <Calinou> no :P
#1112 [12:38] <NinjaKirby> Wtf is wrong with the Middle East, it can't just be a crappily produced video that's prompted all these Embassy attacks.
#1113 [12:39] <Eddie> It's the weather :3
#1114 [12:39] <Eddie> Monospace is French?
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#1116 [12:40] <NinjaKirby> lol, the weather
#1117 [12:41] <NinjaKirby> LOL, and the Royal couple is actually going to sue Closer Mag
#1118 [12:42] <Eddie> Yes
#1119 [12:42] <Eddie> How did they get those pictures?
#1120 [12:42] <NinjaKirby> Heke? Spying on them with a Camera
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#1135 [13:18] <shellbu> does anybody know how to fix the empty server list?
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#1145 [13:51] <Calinou> Eddie: Monospace is the name of some font, it's a french word too.. think of it as "nouveau" 8)
#1146 [13:51] <Morrolan> Think of it as Nvidia drivers? oO
#1147 [13:51] <Calinou> yeah :D they suck
#1148 [13:51] <Calinou> well, I mean the opensource ones
#1149 [14:00] <Eddie> Calinou: It doesn't sound very French to me
#1150 [14:01] <Eddie> Il semble que c'est utilisé en France pour décrire un type de voiture.
#1151 [14:02] <Eddie> Ici on appelle ça mini-fourgonnette
#1152 [14:02] <Eddie> </French>
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#1154 [14:03] <Boreeas> Monô-èspaçe
#1155 [14:03] <Calinou> monospace = a type of (fairly big) car
#1156 [14:04] <Eddie> yes
#1157 [14:04] <Calinou> "police à chasse fixe" is better french for "fixed-width font"
#1158 [14:04] <Calinou> </frenchlesson>
#1159 [14:04] <Eddie> I knew police meant font
#1160 [14:04] <Eddie> chasse? :p
#1161 [14:04] <Eddie> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasse_(typographie)
#1162 [14:05] <Eddie> I also prefer monospace fonts.
#1163 [14:06] <Boreeas> ^
#1164 [14:06] <Boreeas> Because screw progress
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#1166 [14:08] <Eddie> I usually write in cursive
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#1178 [14:34] <papy> im trying to buy minecraft for 2 days now and i cant get any credit card to be accepted. And we know its not the bank or credit cards fault. I was wondering why i cant get the premium
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#1182 [14:39] <Dinxey> I've died twice now and not been able to retrieve my items and/or xp, does anyone know a fix to this problem?
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#1195 [15:15] <TXGREZZ> why cant i connect to my own server that i start everytime i want to play multiplayer on minecraft
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#1212 [15:59] <NinjaKirby> YEAH BARLEY!
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#1214 [16:03] <szzz> hey
#1215 [16:03] <szzz> Anyone here
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#1217 [16:03] <NinjaKirby> All 162 others of us, are indeed here.
#1218 [16:03] <NinjaKirby> wat
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#1221 [16:07] <Sandstone> how can I get all the files from my minecraft.jar to edit them for a texture pack, using a mac?
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#1223 [16:10] <NinjaKirby> I think most archive software can deal with it, can WinRAR operate on a Mac?
#1224 [16:10] <Largan> Hi all. Is this the place to ask about mods to Minecraft?
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#1226 [16:11] <sickfriend> 7-zip is a preferable archive manager.
#1227 [16:11] <Lutzee> le sigh, why didn't he just download a complete 16x texture pack and edit that?
#1228 [16:12] <NinjaKirby> He desired the challenge.
#1229 [16:13] <sickfriend> Only a Mac user would consider extracting files from an archive into a folder challenging...
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#1232 [16:22] <techno156> !weather MElbourne, Australia
#1233 [16:22] <GreyBot> techno156: From Fitzroy Street, Fitzroy, Victoria (6:22a Sep 15 12) temp(50.5 F / 10.3 C) cond(Mostly Cloudy) wind(North at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(87%) dewpnt(47 F / 8 C) bp(30.27 in / 1025 hPa (Rising)) clouds((FEW) : 800 ft / 243 m, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 3700 ft / 1127 m) vis(6.2 miles / 10.0 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#1234 [16:22] <GreyBot> Thursday: Chance of Rain. High: 63 F.
#1235 [16:22] <techno156> Much more accurate, thank you
#1236 [16:25] <techno156> How very unusual, GreyBot
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#1238 [16:28] <techno145> Hello Wug
#1239 [16:29] <techno145> I wonder...
#1240 [16:29] <techno145> !weather Atlantis, Africa
#1241 [16:29] <GreyBot> techno145: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#1242 [16:29] <techno145> ...
#1243 [16:29] <Wug> !weather atlantis
#1244 [16:29] <GreyBot> Wug: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#1245 [16:29] * techno145 throws egg at GreyBot
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#1246 [16:35] <NinjaKirby> !weather Mars
#1247 [16:35] <GreyBot> NinjaKirby: From APRSWXNET Cranberry Twp PA US, Mars, Pennsylvania (4:00p Sep 14 12) temp(80 F / 26.7 C) cond(Mostly Cloudy) wind(West at 3 mph / 4.8 km/h) hu(43%) dewpnt(55 F / 13 C) bp(30.15 in / 1021 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 5500 ft / 1676 m, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 7000 ft / 2133 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(2 out of 16)
#1248 [16:35] <GreyBot> Friday: Partly cloudy in the morning, then mostly cloudy with thunderstorms and rain showers. High of 77F. Winds from the SSW at 5 to 15 mph shifting to the WNW in the afternoon. Chance of rain 40%.
#1249 [16:35] <Boreeas> lutzee: Minus one point for use of "le"
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#1251 [16:35] <NinjaKirby> Now exactly what I had in mind...
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#1254 [16:35] <techno145> Pennsylvannia?
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#1256 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> !weather Transylvania
#1257 [16:37] <GreyBot> NinjaKirby: From APRSWXNET Monticello LA US, Monticello, Louisiana (3:14p Sep 14 12) temp(82 F / 27.8 C) cond(Clear) wind(NNW at 16 mph / 25.7 km/h) hu(70%) dewpnt(71 F / 22 C) bp(30.14 in / 1020 hPa (Falling)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(8 out of 16)
#1258 [16:37] <GreyBot> Friday: Partly cloudy with a chance of rain in the afternoon. High of 88F. Winds from the ENE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20%.
#1259 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> I wonder how many separate data sets there are from various Weather Satellites
#1260 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> They can't ALL be working in conjunction with each other
#1261 [16:38] <techno145> Apprently for melbourne, it measures from a street in the CBD...
#1262 [16:40] <undead> !weather Minnesota
#1263 [16:40] <GreyBot> undead: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#1264 [16:41] <techno145> !weather Minnesota, USA
#1265 [16:41] <GreyBot> techno145: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#1266 [16:41] <techno145> ...
#1267 [16:41] <techno145> WHere
#1268 [16:42] <techno145> is the server based?
#1269 [16:42] <techno145> for esper.net
#1270 [16:42] <xales> techno145: Why do you care?
#1271 [16:42] <xales> (There's more than one server, anyway)
#1272 [16:43] <techno145> just wondering
#1273 [16:43] <techno145> Because INTL (International) Station ID
#1274 [16:44] <xales> ._.
#1275 [16:44] <techno145> Indeed
#1276 [16:44] <techno145> ._.
#1277 [16:44] <techno145> ^v^
#1278 [16:44] <xales> That has nothing to do with the IRC servers. ._.
#1279 [16:44] <techno145> Okay, so what weather server does GreyBot use?
#1280 [16:44] <xales> I don't know.
#1281 [16:45] <DrNoodle> techno145, there are many bots connected to espernet that aren't linked with the network. They're just here
#1282 [16:46] <NinjaKirby> http://www.wxqa.com/
#1283 [16:47] <techno145> Because yesterday, GreyBot said there was -999% Humdity for Melbourne, when it was hailing
#1284 [16:47] <xales> ._.
#1285 [16:48] <techno145> It was weird
#1286 [16:48] <techno145> O_o
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#1288 [16:48] <techno145> CTCP version?
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#1290 [16:49] <xales> Indeed.
#1291 [16:49] <techno145> meaning...
#1292 [16:50] <Lutzee> He wanted to know what client you were using probably :p
#1293 [16:50] <Lutzee> ._.
#1294 [16:50] <undead> Where can I find INTL station ids ?
#1295 [16:50] <xales> This amazing thing called "Google"
#1296 [16:50] <undead> I tryed googling it. no luck.
#1297 [16:51] <DrNoodle> GOOGLE HARDER
#1298 [16:51] <NinjaKirby> But... but... Google knows everything T_T
#1299 [16:51] <techno145> try "international Weather Station IDs
#1300 [16:51] <undead> i tryed searching this : intl station ids
#1301 [16:52] <Boreeas> still much to learn you have, young googlewan
#1302 [16:52] <techno145> You need to put weather in it
#1303 [16:52] * techno145 just tried
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#1304 [16:53] <NinjaKirby> This channel is now known as #GoogleHelp
#1305 [16:53] <techno145> This channel perhaps should be known as #HelpRamdomness
#1306 [16:53] <techno145> *Randomness
#1307 [16:54] <undead> lol nothing .
#1308 [16:54] <techno145> I tried to join #GoogleHelp and accidentally made a new channel
#1309 [16:54] <techno145> ...
#1310 [16:55] <NinjaKirby> I swear Axes in Minecraft are flaming useless lately, my Iron is practically pointless.
#1311 [16:56] <xales> techno145: Yes, that's what happens when you join a channel that doesn't exist.
#1312 [16:56] <techno145> so the channel is there, or is it not?
#1313 [16:56] <xales> ._.
#1314 [16:56] <xales> Joining a non-existant channel creates it.
#1315 [16:57] <techno145> I just closed it so....
#1316 [16:57] <xales> So then it doesn't exist.
#1317 [16:57] * xales doesn't understand what is complicated about this
#1317 [16:57] <Lutzee> Any unregisted channel with no one in it will then be unmade :p
#1318 [16:57] <techno145> And if it's registered?
#1319 [16:58] <xales> The same thing happens, regardless of it's registration status.
#1320 [16:58] <Lutzee> Who ever registed it becomes an op there whenever it is created
#1321 [17:00] <techno145> okay, explains that..
#1322 [17:00] <Lutzee> As it's chanserv who assigns op status if someone who doesn't own the channel was to join it then they wouldn't be opped
#1323 [17:00] <techno145> so on ##voxelhead... No-one's an op
#1324 [17:02] * techno145 lols at the fact #minecrafthelp has turned into #IRChelp
#1324 [17:03] <DrNoodle> correct.
#1325 [17:03] <Lutzee> you know theres #help for that ;P
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#1328 [17:04] <Predator121> tyteen4a03
#1329 [17:04] <techno145> I know, I'm connected to it
#1330 [17:05] <techno145> Predator121, who?
#1331 [17:05] <DrNoodle> techno145, there's no need to question everything everyone says.
#1332 [17:06] <techno145> I'm new to this and just curious
#1333 [17:06] <undead> This is the best social IRC ever made.
#1334 [17:06] <techno145> Though curiosity killed the endermen...
#1335 [17:06] <Predator121> Lol.
#1336 [17:07] <Lutzee> Predator121: what's the problem? tyteen might not be arround
#1337 [17:09] <Predator121> Lutzee: I had to send him a file.
#1338 [17:09] * AmberK|Jogging is now known as AmberK
#1339 [17:09] <Predator121> But i can only see him talking here.
#1340 [17:09] <Predator121> But i can only see him talking here.
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#1342 [17:09] <Predator121> But i can only see him talking here.
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#1347 [17:13] <techno145> I just got minecraft .jar for Linux
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#1349 [17:13] <techno145> the demo froze :P
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#1351 [17:14] <techno145> any ideas why
#1352 [17:14] <techno145> the loading bars stuck a little before the end and the screen says "done loading"
#1353 [17:15] <DiskDaemon> ??> techno145 demo
#1354 [17:15] <VoxelHead> techno145: (demo) You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#1355 [17:15] <techno145> thanks, diskdaemon
#1356 [17:16] <techno145> The game's not on the screen...
#1357 [17:16] <techno145> Just "Buy Now"
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#1359 [17:17] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, that means that you're not seeing the java part of the demo, due to needing java installed for your browser, I presume
#1360 [17:18] <techno145> it doesn't say that I need
#1361 [17:18] <techno145> to\
#1362 [17:18] <techno145> give me a sec
#1363 [17:18] <techno145> Java had uninstalled itself...
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#1366 [17:24] <techno145> unusual name for a user...
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#1368 [17:24] <Guest37280> ive migrated my minecraft account but i don't want to anymore how can i fix this
#1369 [17:25] <techno145> why'd you migrate in the first place?
#1370 [17:25] <Guest37280> because it said to make my account safer
#1371 [17:25] <techno145> where'd you migrate to?
#1372 [17:25] <Guest37280> mojang
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#1374 [17:26] <techno145> Are you able to migrate back?
#1375 [17:26] <Guest37280> im not sure
#1376 [17:26] <techno145> Try it
#1377 [17:26] <Guest37280> how do i
#1378 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> No, you cannot migrate back
#1379 [17:26] <techno145> How did you migrate in the first place?
#1380 [17:26] <techno145> Okay
#1381 [17:27] <techno145> DiskDaemon, you might do better helping Guest37280 than I can...
#1382 [17:27] <DiskDaemon> Guest37280: You migrated - well done. There is no going back.
#1383 [17:28] <techno145> DiskDaemon, Why do you migrate?
#1384 [17:28] <Guest37280> when i go on a server will i have my username
#1385 [17:28] <techno145> you should
#1386 [17:28] <DiskDaemon> yes you will
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#1388 [17:29] <Guest37280> what happens if it shows my email
#1389 [17:29] <techno145> It probably won't
#1390 [17:29] <techno145> You could try it on a friend's server
#1391 [17:30] <DiskDaemon> it won't
#1392 [17:30] <Guest37280> have you migrated techno
#1393 [17:30] <techno145> I don't think so
#1394 [17:30] <Oxymoron> I've been playing Minecraft without a premium account for a while. That meant that I only had 1.2.5 availible. Today I opened up the launcher, logged in, and found that I can now play 1.3.2. Cool, but I never upgraded to premium.
#1395 [17:30] <techno145> I haven't touched my minecraft account, because I haven't paid
#1396 [17:30] <Guest37280> is it good to migrate
#1397 [17:31] <techno145> Oxymoron, What OS are you using?
#1398 [17:31] <Oxymoron> OS X.
#1399 [17:31] <Guest37280> is it good to migrate
#1400 [17:31] <techno145> I'm using Linux and the launcher freezes as ?? demo
#1401 [17:31] <techno145> ??demo
#1402 [17:31] <techno145> ??< demo
#1403 [17:32] <DiskDaemon> Yes, it is a good idea to migrate. It provides you certain protections from account troubles
#1404 [17:32] <Oxymoron> Is Mojang being generous all of a sudden? :p
#1405 [17:32] <techno145> Well, minecraft is Mojang's creation, so to speak
#1406 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> Oxymoron: If you are playing Minecraft without having a premium account, I can only conclude that you are pirating the game.
#1407 [17:33] <techno145> Unless he's playing on the internet
#1408 [17:33] <Guest37280> i have bought minecraft
#1409 [17:33] <Oxymoron> ? I didn't. I got it from minecraft.net.
#1410 [17:33] <techno145> Then migration's a good option to consider
#1411 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> Guest37280: I wasn't talking to you
#1412 [17:34] <Oxymoron> I still can't play online though.
#1413 [17:34] <techno145> Oxymoron, how are you able to get the game?
#1414 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> ??> Oxymoron demo
#1415 [17:35] <techno145> I just get "user not premium" and try again is the only option for me on windows
#1416 [17:35] <VoxelHead> Oxymoron: (demo) You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#1417 [17:35] <techno145> (my school computer)\
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#1419 [17:35] <techno145> ??< Migrating
#1420 [17:35] <techno145> okay, then
#1421 [17:36] <Oxymoron> I just downloaded the launcher and logged in with the account I created. It told me that I wasn't premium, so I just pressed "Play Offline". Before it only let me have 1.2.5. But now it's 1.3.2.
#1422 [17:36] <techno145> How did you get 1.2.5 in the first place?
#1423 [17:36] <Oxymoron> By downloaded the launcher but not getting a premium account.
#1424 [17:36] <DiskDaemon> Oxymoron: That seems to indicate that someone else on that machine has logged in previously with their premium account, and downloaded the game/update
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#1426 [17:37] <techno145> that works?
#1427 [17:37] <Oxymoron> I'm the only one that plays Minecraft at my house.
#1428 [17:37] <techno145> Though minecraft stores in /users/****/AppData/Roaming doesn't it?
#1429 [17:38] <Oxymoron> Don't think anyone logged in besides me.
#1430 [17:38] <techno145> Maybe your friends?
#1431 [17:38] <Oxymoron> Nope.
#1432 [17:38] <DiskDaemon> it does
#1433 [17:38] <techno145> Family?
#1434 [17:38] <Oxymoron> No.
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#1436 [17:39] <techno145> Oh, Oxymoron, did you play the demo?
#1437 [17:39] <Oxymoron> I just downloaded the regular launcher.
#1438 [17:40] <Oxymoron> You mean the demo that you can play on your browser?
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#1440 [17:40] <techno145> Okay, that's a little strange
#1441 [17:40] <techno145> Yep, browser demmo
#1442 [17:40] <Oxymoron> The browser demo doens't work.
#1443 [17:40] <Oxymoron> I tnever really did.
#1444 [17:40] <techno145> Same here. It just grey-screens
#1445 [17:41] <techno145> might be updating?
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#1448 [17:41] <Dr_Ocean> Is this were i can get help for a problem?
#1449 [17:41] <techno145> yep
#1450 [17:42] * DiskDaemon experiments with the demo
#1450 [17:42] <Dr_Ocean> Erm well, i kind of havent played the game (Minecraft) In a A LOOONG time, and i forgot my password...and my email isnt working?
#1451 [17:42] <techno145> How isn't your e-mail working?
#1452 [17:43] <DiskDaemon> Dr_Ocean: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#1453 [17:43] <Dr_Ocean> Thanks a million!!
#1454 [17:44] <techno145> Voxelhead still has the typo
#1455 [17:44] <Dr_Ocean> Erm, My password does not work...
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#1457 [17:44] <techno145> (databse should be database) for those of you who still don't know
#1458 [17:44] <Oxymoron> Anyway, so no one knows why I'm I this situation?
#1459 [17:44] <techno145> Try recovering your password
#1460 [17:44] <Dr_Ocean> Derp, the email doesnt work.
#1461 [17:44] <techno145> Oxymoron, did you play pre-beta?
#1462 [17:45] <Oxymoron> Uh, don't think so.
#1463 [17:45] <techno145> So you didn't play alpha?
#1464 [17:46] <DiskDaemon> Oh dear, that is a problem. After playing the demo, you're able to use the launcher (with internet disconnected) so that the "play anyway" button appears which gives you access to the singleplayer of the full game
#1465 [17:46] <Dr_Ocean> Is there a way to get my account back, or am I as some would say, "Screwed".
#1466 [17:46] <Oxymoron> Well... How could I not have played either one?
#1467 [17:47] <mscorpio> could anyone here please give me the exact instructions of how to install mods?
#1468 [17:47] <DiskDaemon> Dr_Ocean: If you don't have your password and you don't have access to the email that you used when setting it up, you will need to use the information in that link I provided before
#1469 [17:47] <techno145> mscorpio, are you using windows?
#1470 [17:47] <Dr_Ocean> Ok, ill try and use it again.
#1471 [17:47] <DiskDaemon> ??> mscorpio mods
#1472 [17:47] <VoxelHead> mscorpio: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1473 [17:47] <VoxelHead> mscorpio: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1474 [17:48] <Dr_Ocean> Disk im not sure if its the correct link, but it doesnt realy help my case.
#1475 [17:48] <Oxymoron> So my "problem" is a glitch then?
#1476 [17:48] <techno145> yep, an anomaly, a bug
#1477 [17:48] <mscorpio> daemon i am using windows and voxel i've looked at several instruction pages but they failed to define the terms they used, like .jar
#1478 [17:49] <DiskDaemon> Dr_Ocean: Instructions on how to tell Mojang that you need to change your email, don't help?
#1479 [17:49] <techno145> mscorpio, jar is a java file
#1480 [17:49] <Oxymoron> If so, then I wonder why it didn't update before. Just today.
#1481 [17:49] <techno145> Internet connection?
#1482 [17:49] <Dr_Ocean> I cannot turn my account into a mojang without the password?
#1483 [17:49] <Oxymoron> I've always been connected to the Internet.
#1484 [17:50] <mscorpio> alright i had a feeling thats what it was. do i need a winrar or anything? i keep seeing it mentioned
#1485 [17:50] <techno145> Yep, you need something like thaty
#1486 [17:50] <techno145> *that
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#1488 [17:51] <techno145> ??< minecraft
#1489 [17:52] <mscorpio> damnit. i've been trying to download winrar or a substitute for it but i'm having a bit of trouble
#1490 [17:52] <mscorpio> thanks though
#1491 [17:52] <Dr_Ocean> Disk is there any other help i may get?
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#1493 [17:52] <Dr_Ocean> I cannot migrate my account without the password so its not helping very much.
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#1495 [17:53] <DiskDaemon> Dr_Ocean: I'm largly distracted at the moment. What's your problem? Do you need to deal with a no email and no password situation?
#1496 [17:53] <Dr_Ocean> Exactly...
#1497 [17:54] <DiskDaemon> Dr_Ocean: Tell Mojang that you need to change the email on your account to one that you now have access to.
#1498 [17:54] <Dr_Ocean> How exactly can i do that?
#1499 [17:54] <ThomQ> I keep getting these errors when we die: Bed Is obstructed, and we spawn were we spawned when we first started the world
#1500 [17:55] <ThomQ> the beds are not obstructed though, in my mind
#1501 [17:55] <DiskDaemon> Dr_Ocean: The article that I linked you to earlier, provides detailed instructions
#1502 [17:55] <techno145> ThomQ, is th ebed in a room?
#1503 [17:55] <Dr_Ocean> erm, i think it may have been a wrong link, it was a link to change my account wich i may not do without the password.
#1504 [17:55] <DiskDaemon> Dr_Ocean: The one I linked you to is: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#1505 [17:56] <Dr_Ocean> Oh perfect!
#1506 [17:56] <Dr_Ocean> Odd it didnt go there before.
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#1508 [17:57] <Dr_Ocean> This must be the stupidest thing ever...I dont have the transaction info from when i bought this game like two years ago...
#1509 [17:59] <DiskDaemon> Dr_Ocean: You will need that to give Mojang permission to make changes to your account. Otherwise, other people could attempt similar changes with your own account
#1510 [17:59] <ThomQ> Techno: IT is, but the room is open
#1511 [17:59] <techno145> weird
#1512 [18:00] <techno145> Maybe minecraft tries to draw a beeline toward the bed?
#1513 [18:00] <Dr_Ocean> There must be a way...I mean it was my freinds paypal who bought it for me and me and him arent even freinds anymore.
#1514 [18:00] <DiskDaemon> Dr_Ocean: Then you will need the transaction id from the paypal transaction on his paypal account. There is no other alternative really.
#1515 [18:01] <Dr_Ocean> None what-so ever?
#1516 [18:01] <DiskDaemon> Dr_Ocean: How else are you going to prove that you are the rightful owner of the account you're wanting to change?
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#1518 [18:02] <Dr_Ocean> I realy dont know, im just trying to pay this game again, i bought it when it was around 15ish dollars and its 25 i think now. I cant think of a way to do this.
#1519 [18:02] <Dr_Ocean> Play*
#1520 [18:03] <techno145> yep $25 it sure is
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#1522 [18:03] <DiskDaemon> Dr_Ocean: You have forgotten your password. You don't have access to the email account, and you don't have access to your transaction id. That is a problem.
#1523 [18:04] <techno145> indeed
#1524 [18:04] <Dr_Ocean> Yes it is, thats why im trying to get help :/
#1525 [18:04] <Smanly> There isn't anything we can do for you. :/
#1526 [18:05] <Dr_Ocean> Well i guess ill try and contact my old freind and see what i can do, thanks for your help you could offer.
#1527 [18:05] <Smanly> o/
#1528 [18:05] <DiskDaemon> Without any of that information, your only other option is to suck it up and buy another account, one which you are more careful about.
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#1533 [18:16] <MinecraftAddict> How can i get permission from mojang to use minecraft graphics?
#1534 [18:16] <LilLucy> You need to email mojang ._.
#1535 [18:16] <MinecraftAddict> there email has not been working
#1536 [18:16] <LilLucy> They can take a while to reply since they're very backed up with emails
#1537 [18:17] <DiskDaemon> Their email works - I'll find an article that gives details
#1538 [18:17] <MinecraftAddict> the email is giving a error message
#1539 [18:17] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1540 [18:18] <MinecraftAddict> when i try to send to thier email it will not let me send
#1541 [18:18] <MinecraftAddict> it puts a error message in my inbox
#1542 [18:19] <DiskDaemon> Weren't you here a few days ago, and decided to contact Jeb via twitter?
#1543 [18:19] <MinecraftAddict> yes, the twitter thing is messing up and i cant tweet
#1544 [18:19] <MinecraftAddict> for some ungodly reason
#1545 [18:20] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftAddict: You may find it helpful then to read through these Brand & Asset Guidelines http://www.minecraft.net/brand
#1546 [18:24] <MinecraftAddict> okay, i read all of it
#1547 [18:25] <DiskDaemon> Good one, so you would have also come across how to contact them should you have any further queries about things
#1548 [18:25] <MinecraftAddict> yep
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#1552 [18:36] <stickmenz> HELP: my server is doing "failed to verify username" for all my users. It did this a week ago. I believe it is some sort of blacklisting problem with minecraft session or a new type of exploit to get servers removed from minecraft session. Are there any known fixes or anyway to report the issue to Mojang. This has happened to other servers as well and seems to be completely random
#1553 [18:36] <stickmenz> and the fix time is also random.
#1554 [18:36] <VoxelHead> stickmenz - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#1555 [18:36] <stickmenz> They are up
#1556 [18:37] <stickmenz> Other servers are up and people can connect to them
#1557 [18:38] <MinecraftAddict> okay, i am back
#1558 [18:39] <MinecraftAddict> the email to mojang has been sent
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#1561 [18:41] <stickmenz> email to mojang? How can I contact support?
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#1563 [18:44] <DiskDaemon> stickmenz: What seems to be the problem?
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#1566 [18:45] <Digitalicious> I'm haivng trouble connecting to Minecraft servers. Like... Any server at all. I can ping/tracert them just fine, but Minecraft won't connect to ANY minecraft server.
#1567 [18:45] <Digitalicious> Anyone ever experience this?
#1568 [18:45] <NinjaKirby> Welcome back Digitalicious, shame it's regarding that trouble still :/
#1569 [18:46] <DiskDaemon> Do you have the same trouble when connecting to s.nerd.nu
#1570 [18:46] <DiskDaemon> We've found that one to be useful for testing purposes
#1571 [18:46] <Digitalicious> Thanks! Same problem, no solution. Even posted on Reddit.
#1572 [18:46] <Digitalicious> I cannot connect to s.nerd.nu.
#1573 [18:47] <Digitalicious> It's acting like I'm not even connected to the internet... Which, obviously, I am.
#1574 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> You can also experience that problem if you are not running a client that can be used with the server
#1575 [18:47] <Digitalicious> Stock client, recently forced-updated.
#1576 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> *that can not be ...
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#1578 [18:48] <Digitalicious> Tried turning off the firewall, tried connecting directly to modem... No clue... What is going on...
#1579 [18:48] <Digitalicious> And it happened randomly.
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#1581 [18:48] <Digitalicious> No changes in my internet service at all.
#1582 [18:48] <DiskDaemon> We have a troubleshooting launcher, which povides a log of what's happening. Could you use that so that we can get more information about what's going on?
#1583 [18:48] <DiskDaemon> :ts/launcher
#1584 [18:48] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log in a folder called "log" in the minecraft game folder (along with bin, saves, and others) containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1585 [18:48] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#1586 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> The log will be found in the .minecraft/log/ folder
#1587 [18:49] <matty> someone please help me
#1588 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> matty: Thw flange is connected to the frobbit.
#1589 [18:49] <Digitalicious> Hm. I have no log folder...
#1590 [18:49] <MooseElkingtons> ;whoami
#1591 [18:49] <MooseElkingtons> ;_;
#1592 [18:49] <MooseElkingtons> ;;whoami
#1593 [18:49] <MooseElkingtons> D:
#1594 [18:49] <MooseElkingtons> :whoami
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#1597 [18:50] <Smanly> wat
#1598 [18:50] <ChefCookieCat> our mac will not download the minecraft game
#1599 [18:51] <Lutzee> ChefCookieCat: does it say the app is broken?
#1600 [18:51] <ChefCookieCat> it says damaged
#1601 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> ChefCookieCat: Does it give you an error?
#1602 [18:51] <Lutzee> ??> ChefCookieCat mac/gatekeeper
#1603 [18:51] <VoxelHead> ChefCookieCat: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1604 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> ??> ChefCookieCat mac/gatekeeper
#1605 [18:51] <Smanly> Its... already been downloaded.
#1606 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> ninja'd :)
#1607 [18:52] <ChefCookieCat> how
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#1609 [18:52] <ChefCookieCat> walk me through it
#1610 [18:52] <ChefCookieCat> weve joined and paid
#1611 [18:52] <Lutzee> ChefCookieCat: look at what VoxelHead said
#1612 [18:53] <coolmonkey> 2 days ago i made a minecraft server and everything was fine. but today when i try to run the run.bat it saus could not recive enough space.
#1613 [18:53] <coolmonkey> how can i fix it
#1614 [18:53] <Lutzee> coolmonkey: close some other programs
#1615 [18:54] <Smanly> coolmonkey: You dont have enough RAM available.
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#1617 [18:54] <Smanly> coolmonkey_: You dont have enough RAM available.
#1618 [18:54] <Digitalicious> So has this thouroughly stumped everyone as it has stumped me?
#1619 [18:55] <Smanly> ?
#1620 [18:55] <coolmonkey_> smanly if i dont have enough ram why was it working yesterday
#1621 [18:55] <DiskDaemon> Digitalicious: When you use that troubleshooting launcher, there will be a log folder that is created with a log of what happens
#1622 [18:55] <Smanly> coolmonkey_: You are using it up.
#1623 [18:55] <coolmonkey_> ok thanks
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#1625 [18:56] <ChefCookieCat> i just did what you said to do with system preferences is my computer still safe?
#1626 [18:56] <Digitalicious> DiskDaemon: Ah... How do I install said launcher?
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#1628 [18:56] <Lutzee> ChefCookieCat: yes
#1629 [18:56] <ChefCookieCat> should i try to download again?
#1630 [18:56] * AwayK is now known as AmberK
#1631 [18:56] <Lutzee> you can
#1632 [18:57] <DiskDaemon> You just run the troubleshooting launcher in the same way that you run minecraft
#1633 [18:58] <Digitalicious> Ah. I am stupid. I replaced the files in that jar with the files in the minecraft.jar
#1634 [18:58] <ChefCookieCat> thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#1636 [18:58] <Smanly> Yeah...
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#1638 [18:59] <Smanly> o.O
#1639 [18:59] <Digitalicious> Alright. I have the log file.
#1640 [18:59] <Digitalicious> http://pastie.org/4722667
#1641 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> Digitalicious: Don't transfer the contents of the troubleshooting launcher to somewhere else, and don't change the contents either. Just run it as a normal java program
#1642 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> Ahh good
#1643 [19:00] <Digitalicious> Got it. :P
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#1645 [19:02] <DiskDaemon> Well atl.a is ServerList.loadServerList but it seems to say connecting to s.nerd.nu after that too
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#1647 [19:04] <DiskDaemon> Digitalicious: I'm puzzled by that, and quite frankly by many server issues, but someone else might be able to help you with that
#1648 [19:04] <Digitalicious> I too am puzzled as I am able to successfully ping s.nerd.nu
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#1650 [19:05] <Digitalicious> DickDaemon: Thank you for your help!
#1651 [19:05] * DiskDaemon glares
#1651 [19:05] <Digitalicious> No, I meant that as a sincere thank you for trying to help me. :P
#1652 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> Please use an S instead of a C
#1653 [19:06] <Digitalicious> Oh
#1654 [19:06] <Digitalicious> Oh shit.
#1655 [19:06] <Digitalicious> Haha.
#1656 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> "Dick" is not the start of my name, but otherwise, you're welcome
#1657 [19:06] <Digitalicious> Diskdaemon: Thank you for your help!
#1658 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> cheers :)
#1659 [19:06] <Smanly> Omglol
#1660 [19:07] <NinjaKirby> lol
#1661 [19:07] <Digitalicious> Whoops.
#1662 [19:09] <Smanly> Dickalicious: So, your issue is that you can't connect to any servers, right?
#1663 [19:10] <Smanly> Digitalicious*
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#1665 [19:12] <spartacus3001> hello
#1666 [19:12] <spartacus3001> i am having troubles with using texture packs
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#1670 [19:21] <Digitalicious> Oh shit
#1671 [19:21] <Digitalicious> I restarted my router again, and it's working/
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#1674 [19:22] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, the famous "turn it off then on again" technique
#1675 [19:22] <Guest2196> i had to eat dinner
#1676 [19:22] <Guest2196> soory
#1677 [19:23] <Guest2196> sorry
#1678 [19:23] <Digitalicious> Well
#1679 [19:23] <Digitalicious> Huh
#1680 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> Even chip knows you have to restart it at least 3 times
#1681 [19:23] <Digitalicious> Guess I'll play now...
#1682 [19:23] <Guest2196> how can my friend come to my minecraft world
#1683 [19:24] <DiskDaemon> Guest2196: He he within your local lan?
#1684 [19:24] <Guest2196> whats lan
#1685 [19:24] <NinjaKirby> He technically said Local twice.
#1686 [19:24] <DiskDaemon> LAN is a computer abbreviation that means Local Area Network
#1687 [19:24] <NinjaKirby> Brilliant.
#1688 [19:25] <Guest2196> well we live in seprate houses
#1689 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> And technically talking about your PIN number isn't right either :)
#1690 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> I guess not then - you'll have to set up a minecraft server then and have him connect to it
#1691 [19:26] <Guest2196> is it free
#1692 [19:26] <NinjaKirby> True, anyways, I'm gonna surf some WWW web
#1693 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> Details are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1694 [19:26] <Guest2196> ok
#1695 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> Okay, it's distraction overload for me now - playing black mesa.
#1696 [19:28] <NinjaKirby> Nice, enjoy
#1697 [19:28] <Guest2196> do i have to pay for my server to keep it running
#1698 [19:29] <NinjaKirby> If you are hosting it, it's free, you are providing a service in fact that is free for others.
#1699 [19:29] <NinjaKirby> It's fandabbydozie.
#1700 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> only if you're paying someone to keep it running
#1701 [19:30] <Guest2196> ok
#1702 [19:33] <Guest2196> thanks
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#1707 [19:38] <Guest2196> i have to go now bye
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#1710 [19:44] <TheWeirdOne> i heard that when i update minecraft i will lose my info. Is this true?
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#1712 [19:47] <TheWeirdOne> I heard that when I update my minecraft I will lose my saves. Is this true?
#1713 [19:48] <DiskDaemon> That is not true
#1714 [19:48] <NinjaKirby> Although backing up Saves every couple of weeks to a second HDD never did any harm
#1715 [19:49] <TheWeirdOne> So why would people being say that it has happened to them?
#1716 [19:50] <TheWeirdOne> being say== be Saying
#1717 [19:51] <DiskDaemon> Because they are converting from a beta version of the game, which uses one map format, to the most recent version which doesn't understand that format. Their saves are still there. They can use Minecraft 1.1 to convert the old save to something compatible, and then go from there to the most recent version of Minecraft and convert them again to something that's compatible with that
#1718 [19:52] <CamdenP> I haven't been able to connect to servers and I look at the status on mulitpule sites and they all say they are up! Anyone else having this issue?
#1719 [19:55] <TheWeirdOne> diskdaemon this is his brother in law and i have been playing minecraft since it has came out and everyttime the game is updated my world is deleted. that is what wierdone is trying to ask.
#1720 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> The world may not show in the singleplayer list of worlds, but it will still be there on the computer.
#1721 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> You can downgrade to Minecraft 1.1 which will allow the game to see the old map so that you can convert it.
#1722 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion
#1723 [19:56] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
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#1732 [20:25] <AVGsDad> I'm looking for some help in launching Minecraft for my son...anyone out there to help?
#1733 [20:25] <Lutzee> What's the problem?
#1734 [20:25] <AVGsDad> When clicking on minecraft.exe the launcher opens, but the screen won't render correctly
#1735 [20:26] <AVGsDad> I'm running XP
#1736 [20:26] <Lutzee> What do you mean by won't reder correctly? what do you see exactly?
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#1738 [20:26] <Lutzee> render*
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#1740 [20:27] <PapaPump> hey guys i just bought this game, been playing on xbox and seen computer offers more in this game,so i got it and get this error hs_err_pid can anyone help me?
#1741 [20:27] <AVGsDad> I see the window with "Minecraft Launcher" in the title bar, but very pixelated, non-descript "images" within the window
#1742 [20:27] <Smanly> Got a screenshot?
#1743 [20:27] <AVGsDad> not even images...just colors really
#1744 [20:27] <AVGsDad> i can get one...how do I upload it
#1745 [20:27] <AVGsDad> ?
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#1747 [20:28] <Smanly> AVGsDad: You can use imgur.com
#1748 [20:28] <Smanly> PapaPump: Pastebin.com the error.
#1749 [20:28] <Lutzee> PapaPump: open that file in a text editor and copy the entire contents to http://pastebin.com press submit then copy the link fromt eh address bar back to here
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#1751 [20:29] <PapaPump> k
#1752 [20:29] <AVGsDad> getting the image
#1753 [20:30] <PapaPump> http://pastebin.com/MRn8fCWc
#1754 [20:31] <Lutzee> PapaPump: looks like you need to update the video card drivers
#1755 [20:31] <Lutzee> ??> PapaPump win/dxdiag
#1756 [20:31] <VoxelHead> PapaPump: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1757 [20:31] <PapaPump> i already did
#1758 [20:31] <VoxelHead> PapaPump: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1759 [20:31] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: the launcher should look like this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/launcher.png
#1760 [20:31] <AVGsDad> Here comes the image
#1761 [20:32] <AVGsDad> http://kvg.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-xZN9dp7/0/M/minecraft-M.png
#1762 [20:32] <PapaPump> i unistalled and reinstalled off of asus website
#1763 [20:32] <Lutzee> er O.o
#1764 [20:32] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: have you tried redownloading the launcher?
#1765 [20:32] <AVGsDad> Yeah...it works on several computers in the house, just not the one my son is allowed to touch :)
#1766 [20:32] <AVGsDad> yes...SEVERAL times
#1767 [20:33] <Lutzee> that is.... odd
#1768 [20:33] <NinjaKirby> Whoa, is that the texture art, awesome, sort of
#1769 [20:34] <Lutzee> NinjaKirby: it is, but i have no clue where it is getting those images from
#1770 [20:34] <PapaPump> trying it right now VoxelHead
#1771 [20:34] <Lutzee> I am quite baffled
#1772 [20:34] <AVGsDad> it doesn't always look like that, either
#1773 [20:34] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: what version of java have you got installed?
#1774 [20:35] * Kane{-_-}zZ is now known as Kanegasi
#1775 [20:35] <AVGsDad> Just updated to 7
#1776 [20:36] <PapaPump> anything you want me to do after i have saved the information to the desktop VoxelHead?
#1777 [20:36] <Lutzee> PapaPump: VoxelHead is a bot and "Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel."
#1778 [20:36] <AVGsDad> Here's another version of what I've seen...
#1779 [20:36] <AVGsDad> http://kvg.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-zKx9Rjm/0/M/minecraft2-M.png
#1780 [20:36] <PapaPump> oh
#1781 [20:36] <PapaPump> k
#1782 [20:37] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: can you also follow the instructions that VoxelHead gave last?
#1783 [20:37] <AVGsDad> the one's you list above?
#1784 [20:37] <AVGsDad> what file?
#1785 [20:37] <Lutzee> ??> AVGsDad win/dxdiag
#1786 [20:37] <VoxelHead> AVGsDad: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1787 [20:37] <VoxelHead> AVGsDad: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1788 [20:38] <AVGsDad> ok...doing it now
#1789 [20:39] <PapaPump> http://pastebin.com/mpqmZPze
#1790 [20:39] <PapaPump> there you go
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#1792 [20:39] <Lutzee> ?? gpu/amd
#1793 [20:39] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#1794 [20:39] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
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#1796 [20:40] <PapaPump> are talking about video card
#1797 [20:40] <PapaPump> ?
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#1799 [20:40] <AVGsDad> ok...so, what is this doing for me? seems as though I may be exposing my computer
#1800 [20:40] <PapaPump> nvm
#1801 [20:41] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: its justinformation about the hardware in your PC
#1802 [20:41] <PapaPump> so the gpu would need to be updated you think?
#1803 [20:41] <Lutzee> PapaPump: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx the top download is the drivers you need
#1804 [20:41] <PapaPump> right on
#1805 [20:41] <Lutzee> PapaPump: only the drivers for it
#1806 [20:41] <AVGsDad> ok
#1807 [20:42] <Lutzee> Often windows does not know about more up to date drivers and will report that drivers are up to date when they infact arent
#1808 [20:42] <PapaPump> ya i had that problem with the video card before
#1809 [20:43] <AVGsDad> ok...just did it...now what?
#1810 [20:43] <Lutzee> you submitted to pastebin?
#1811 [20:43] <PapaPump> wish i had more experience to find it myself glad i found this area though haha
#1812 [20:44] <AVGsDad> http://pastebin.com/KS79mRSQ
#1813 [20:44] <PapaPump> fix it myself*
#1814 [20:44] <AVGsDad> I have to get the boy to bed...brb...understand if you can't wait
#1815 [20:44] <Lutzee> Feel free i have time :)
#1816 [20:45] <AVGsDad> ok...thanks...brb
#1817 [20:45] <PapaPump> so is all that stuff safe after you post on pastebin?
#1818 [20:45] <PapaPump> just curious
#1819 [20:45] <Lutzee> Yes, there is no personal information in the stuff on pastebin
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#1821 [20:46] <PapaPump> right on
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#1823 [20:47] <PapaPump> so after these drivers do you think i would need to uninstall and restall minecraft at all?
#1824 [20:47] <Lutzee> No you should be okay just to run the game
#1825 [20:47] <Lutzee> No you should be okay just to run the game
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#1827 [20:48] <PapaPump> right on, you been been hearing about this error a lot in here? there seems to be a lot found about it through search engines
#1828 [20:49] <Lutzee> Er, its not uncommon, a lot of people don't have the latest drivers due to the fact the drivers at time of release are the ones installed and theres no auto update process or checking for new updates
#1829 [20:50] <PapaPump> ah
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#1835 [21:03] <AVGsDad> I'm back...Lutzee, you still there?
#1836 [21:03] <Lutzee> Yes i am
#1837 [21:03] <AVGsDad> thanks for waiting...see anything?
#1838 [21:03] <Lutzee> The laptop is old but a graphics criver update might help
#1839 [21:03] <Lutzee> I'm not 100% sure whats causing it though
#1840 [21:04] <AVGsDad> it is old...that's why it is my 9 year old's :D
#1841 [21:04] <AVGsDad> funny thing is, it worked on an even older laptop, albeit very slowly
#1842 [21:06] <Lutzee> Do you know the exact model number for the laptop?
#1843 [21:06] <PapaPump> hey Lutzee
#1844 [21:06] <Lutzee> hey
#1845 [21:06] <AVGsDad> it's a t60p...let me get the model number
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#1847 [21:06] <AVGsDad> 2007-94U
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#1849 [21:07] <Lutzee> Er.. :/ i found the product, but there doesn't seem to be any drivers available at all :/
#1850 [21:09] <AVGsDad> hmm...that out of date, huh?
#1851 [21:09] <Lutzee> Unfortunately
#1852 [21:11] <AVGsDad> is it the display adapter?
#1853 [21:11] <Lutzee> I'm not sure what is causing it, it's a very obscure phenomenon i doubt anyone has come accross
#1854 [21:12] <AVGsDad> or, the sound, video and game controllers?
#1855 [21:12] <AVGsDad> which driver were you wanting me to update?
#1856 [21:12] <Lutzee> Video drivers
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#1858 [21:14] <AVGsDad> listed under "Sound, Video and Game Controllers" in Computer Management?
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#1861 [21:14] <PapaPump> sry about that....just wanted to say thank you lutzee the solution you had fixed my problem, ive been cracking at it since 230 pm haha so thank you
#1862 [21:15] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: i've done a bit of searching try this http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/79d179ww.exe
#1863 [21:16] <AVGsDad> what is that file?
#1864 [21:16] <Lutzee> Video drivers for your video card
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#1866 [21:16] <AVGsDad> ok
#1867 [21:16] <Lutzee> They are 4 years newer than what is currently installed
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#1869 [21:16] <AVGsDad> that might help...lol
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#1872 [21:17] <AVGsDad> are you a minecraft tech, or an enthusiast?
#1873 [21:17] * joeydev [joeydev@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1874 [21:18] <joeydev> WOW lots of people :D
#1875 [21:18] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: i'm just someone who enjoys helping
#1876 [21:18] <joeydev> haha ya same here :D
#1877 [21:18] <AVGsDad> cool...thanks for that
#1878 [21:18] <PerfectPhoenix> Excuse me, I have two questions. 1, How can I use the LAN Connect on the Single Player if it won't let my cousin connect to me? And two, I recently downloaded the Server.exe, and I have it running, but I can't find the IP address for it. Where can I find it?
#1879 [21:18] <Lutzee> No one here is affiliated with Mojang in any way
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#1882 [21:19] <Lutzee> PerfectPhoenix: if your cousin is not in the same house on the same network LAN won't work
#1883 [21:19] <cottonball> im trying to run two servers from once computer and I cant figure it out
#1884 [21:19] <Lutzee> as for the server, theres a few things you need to do
#1885 [21:19] <PerfectPhoenix> He is. We're both on the same network. It just won't let us connect.
#1886 [21:19] <Lutzee> oh right
#1887 [21:19] <cottonball> can some1 help me? and i hope im not interupting...
#1888 [21:19] <AVGsDad> drivers are installing
#1889 [21:19] <cottonball> lol
#1890 [21:19] <joeydev> to connect to you you can use this IP "127.0.0.1 or localhost
#1891 [21:20] <Lutzee> Well you have to open your world in single player and select open to lan on the pause menu, then your cousin needs to select multiplayer and wait for it to detect your game
#1892 [21:20] <joeydev> 127.0.0.1 is the same as "localhost"
#1893 [21:20] <joeydev> cotton I will be glad to help you :D
#1894 [21:20] <joeydev> what u need?
#1895 [21:20] <PerfectPhoenix> It detects my LAN world, but it times out with the connection.
#1896 [21:20] <cottonball> does any1 know how to run multie servers from one computer?
#1897 [21:21] <joeydev> Yes
#1898 [21:21] <joeydev> I do
#1899 [21:21] <joeydev> I do it all the time
#1900 [21:21] <cottonball> help plz :)
#1901 [21:21] <joeydev> Be glad to :D
#1902 [21:21] <joeydev> what OS do you use?
#1903 [21:21] <PerfectPhoenix> Windows.
#1904 [21:21] <cottonball> windows 7
#1905 [21:21] <joeydev> on ok :/ I have a Mac but I should still be able to help
#1906 [21:21] <Lutzee> ??> PerfectPhoenix irc/multitasking
#1907 [21:22] <PerfectPhoenix> Hm?
#1908 [21:22] * Lutzee pokes vox
#1908 [21:22] <Lutzee> oh right
#1909 [21:22] <cottonball> sounds good
#1910 [21:22] <Lutzee> vox died
#1911 [21:22] <joeydev> To have multiple servers running at the same time you need to have a server port for each server
#1912 [21:22] <cottonball> i did that...
#1913 [21:22] <cottonball> the thing i cant figure out is to have multiple server.exe open
#1914 [21:22] <joeydev> on what the server.properties file?
#1915 [21:22] <joeydev> oh ok
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#1917 [21:22] <cottonball> well i did the port forarding on the outer settings
#1918 [21:23] <joeydev> just rename the file like server1.exe and server2.exe
#1919 [21:23] <joeydev> thats what I do
#1920 [21:23] <joeydev> windows wont know its the same file
#1921 [21:23] <cottonball> huh ok lemme give it a shot
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#1923 [21:23] <joeydev> it should consider it an entire new program even though it really is the same :P
#1924 [21:24] <cottonball> the problem is that it looks for the same port # as the other server
#1925 [21:24] <cottonball> how to i tell it to look for the differnt port #?
#1926 [21:24] <Lutzee> Having the server exes in the same directory will read from the same world file
#1927 [21:24] <joeydev> good point lutzee
#1928 [21:24] <cottonball> what? lol sorry
#1929 [21:24] <Lutzee> cottonball: in the server.properties file
#1930 [21:24] <joeydev> cotton go into server.properties
#1931 [21:25] <cottonball> ok lemme check it out
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#1933 [21:25] <joeydev> and look for the line called "server-port=25565"
#1934 [21:25] <Chibitalia180> Is Minecraft open-source?
#1935 [21:25] <Lutzee> Chibitalia180: no
#1936 [21:25] <joeydev> also the "query.port=25565" should match
#1937 [21:25] <joeydev> no it is not
#1938 [21:26] <Chibitalia180> Ok
#1939 [21:26] <Lutzee> Chibitalia180: there are tools for decompiling it though
#1940 [21:26] <cottonball> ok i think im getting somewhere
#1941 [21:26] <Chibitalia180> I know, but thats not why Im asking if its open-source
#1942 [21:26] <joeydev> but you can edit it's class files using JD-GUI
#1943 [21:26] <Lutzee> joeydev: there are easier methods than that :p
#1944 [21:26] <joeydev> what it does is it allows you to decompile the minecraft.jar
#1945 [21:27] <Chibitalia180> I know
#1946 [21:27] <Chibitalia180> It can decompile any .jar
#1947 [21:27] <Lutzee> joeydev: there are tools that output the .java files for easier editing, it also deobfuscates it too
#1948 [21:27] <joeydev> yes
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#1950 [21:27] <Lutzee> Google minecraft coder pack
#1951 [21:27] <joeydev> Lutzee how are u talking to me privately?
#1952 [21:27] <joeydev> Lutzee how are u talking to me privately?
#1953 [21:27] * Chibitalia180 [Chibitalia180@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1954 [21:27] <joeydev> just wondering?
#1955 [21:27] <Lutzee> joeydev: i rarely respond in PMs
#1956 [21:27] <joeydev> Im still new to this chat system
#1957 [21:28] <joeydev> like your name is RED on my screen :D
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#1959 [21:28] <Lutzee> joeydev: that happens when i say your name
#1960 [21:28] <su> I need help figuring out what is crashing minecraft when I right click villagers... http://pastebin.com/Uy6w9cjD
#1961 [21:28] <Lutzee> So if i don't i'm not read
#1962 [21:28] <Lutzee> red*
#1963 [21:28] <cottonball> ok i got it, my last question is what ip do i type in for my friends to connect to it?
#1964 [21:28] <joeydev> ok be glad to
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#1966 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> "incompatible argument" most commonly is caused by a mod from a different version
#1967 [21:29] <joeydev> is he connected to the same WiFi u r on?
#1968 [21:29] <PerfectPhoenix> Came back again, and it still isn't working. Used the default IP, 127.0.0.1, and it still didn't work.
#1969 [21:29] <PerfectPhoenix> And LAN just times out on connection.
#1970 [21:29] <Lutzee> ;forceupdate
#1971 [21:29] <Lutzee> ;fu
#1972 [21:29] <Lutzee> ugh
#1973 [21:29] <Lutzee> Ahh
#1974 [21:29] <Lutzee> modded
#1975 [21:29] <PerfectPhoenix> Force Update? How will that help?
#1976 [21:30] <joeydev> Perfect whoever is hosting the server needs to tell you what the IP is
#1977 [21:30] <su> Anyone?
#1978 [21:30] <joeydev> su Im looking at ur case right now
#1979 [21:30] <su> Ok
#1980 [21:30] <su> Thanks
#1981 [21:31] <joeydev> Dang man u have A LOT of mods
#1982 [21:31] <PerfectPhoenix> I have the IP, connection still times out.
#1983 [21:31] <PerfectPhoenix> And it's on LAN too.
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#1985 [21:31] <cottonball> hey guys how would other people logging on to your server know which of your servers they r logging onto if you are running two simultaneously?
#1986 [21:31] * Guest_ is now known as AVGsDad
#1987 [21:31] <AVGsDad> ok...now, I'm back
#1988 [21:32] <su> joeydev, not as much as I used to have
#1989 [21:32] <Lutzee> cottonball: they have to designate the port
#1990 [21:32] <joeydev> you tell them the IP and then what the Port Number is
#1991 [21:32] <cottonball> how would they type it?
#1992 [21:32] <PerfectPhoenix> So, just run force update and then try connecting to LAN?
#1993 [21:32] <AVGsDad> the new drivers helped with the launcher rendering, but when I log in, it closes and does nothing else
#1994 [21:32] <cottonball> like my IP the : then port #?
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#1996 [21:32] <joeydev> do like this 192.168.1.1:25565
#1997 [21:32] <joeydev> the :25565 is the port number
#1998 [21:32] <cottonball> gotcha sweet
#1999 [21:32] <cottonball> thanks so much!
#2000 [21:32] <joeydev> now the 192.168.1.1 is a random IP
#2001 [21:33] <joeydev> but the : is what separates the IP from the Port
#2002 [21:33] <joeydev> su can u repeat ur error msg?
#2003 [21:33] <PerfectPhoenix> Still isn't working though.
#2004 [21:33] <joeydev> or was it that one time?
#2005 [21:33] <su> joeydev, it's crashed twice
#2006 [21:33] <su> I'll upload the other one
#2007 [21:33] <joeydev> ok
#2008 [21:33] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: hmm, do you see any of the loading screen at all or does it just close instantly?
#2009 [21:33] <PerfectPhoenix> Still isn't working with the LAN world.
#2010 [21:34] <AVGsDad> no...it says it is loading, and then closes
#2011 [21:34] <su> joeydev, http://pastebin.com/47fdK2RE
#2012 [21:34] <joeydev> su how do you message me directly?
#2013 [21:34] <PerfectPhoenix> I see a loading screen, and then it goes Connection refused: Timeout.
#2014 [21:34] <joeydev> Perfect does your friend get knocked off too?
#2015 [21:34] <su> joeydev, how do I? I put a comma after your name :\
#2016 [21:34] <AVGsDad> click your name on the right and then click PM, I would assume ;)
#2017 [21:35] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: hmm, odd
#2018 [21:35] <joeydev> oh ok
#2019 [21:35] <PerfectPhoenix> No, he's the one hosting the LAN. I'm like, in front of his computer.
#2020 [21:35] <Lutzee> ;ts/launcher
#2021 [21:35] <joeydev> su, this is a test
#2022 [21:35] <Lutzee> :ts/launcher
#2023 [21:35] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log in a folder called "log" in the minecraft game folder (along with bin, saves, and others) containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#2024 [21:35] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#2025 [21:35] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: try starting it with that ^
#2026 [21:35] <Lutzee> It's another form of the launcher
#2027 [21:35] <PerfectPhoenix> Connection Timed Out: connect
#2028 [21:36] <PerfectPhoenix> It's using the Single Player LAN world.
#2029 [21:36] <su> joeydev, yes that highlighted me
#2030 [21:36] <PerfectPhoenix> And i can't connect at all.
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#2032 [21:36] <joeydev> su, oh ok cool :D
#2033 [21:36] <su> however if you want private messaging do /msg rcmaehl something
#2034 [21:36] <PerfectPhoenix> How can we get the LAN worlds working? It won't let me connect at all.
#2035 [21:36] <Lutzee> You can use the nick name too
#2036 [21:36] <joeydev> oh ok cool
#2037 [21:37] <Lutzee> PerfectPhoenix: might be firewall issue
#2038 [21:37] <joeydev> also su what version of java do you have?
#2039 [21:37] <AVGsDad> Exact same result
#2040 [21:37] <PerfectPhoenix> He has no firewalls, and I have 1.7
#2041 [21:37] <Lutzee> ??> AVGsDad win/.minecraft
#2042 [21:37] <VoxelHead> AVGsDad: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#2043 [21:37] <joeydev> Perfect are you guys running the same minecraft version?
#2044 [21:37] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: follow what VoxelHead just said and find the files called log
#2045 [21:38] <su> su, Java Version 7 update 5 build 1.7.0_05-b05
#2046 [21:38] <Lutzee> Open it in a text editor and copy the contents to pastebin like before
#2047 [21:38] <PerfectPhoenix> Yes. Both of us have 1.3.2, have the same internet, and right next to each other. his LAN world appears in my Multiplayer server list.
#2048 [21:38] <joeydev> ok su ya you have the most up to date version
#2049 [21:38] <PerfectPhoenix> I just cannot connect.
#2050 [21:38] <joeydev> how many people are connected to the wrouter?
#2051 [21:38] <PerfectPhoenix> It's only us two at the moment.
#2052 [21:38] <Lutzee> PerfectPhoenix: chances are there is a firewall even if its only the windows one
#2053 [21:38] <joeydev> some wroters can only handle about 5 devices
#2054 [21:38] <joeydev> oh ok
#2055 [21:39] <joeydev> ya how old is it?
#2056 [21:39] <joeydev> OH I know try tis
#2057 [21:39] <joeydev> this
#2058 [21:39] <PerfectPhoenix> Okay, I'll try to figure it out myself from there. Thanks.
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#2060 [21:39] <joeydev> take an Ethernet Cable and connect your computers directly to the Wrouter
#2061 [21:39] <AVGsDad> not much in there
#2062 [21:40] <AVGsDad> http://pastebin.com/LxxdJhvt
#2063 [21:40] <Lutzee> Ugh, no stacktrace at all :/
#2064 [21:40] <Lutzee> but the game does start loading
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#2066 [21:41] <joeydev> hello Yerg
#2067 [21:41] <joeydev> so su are u still there?
#2068 [21:41] <su> always
#2069 [21:41] <Yerg> Hello
#2070 [21:41] <joeydev> haha :D
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#2072 [21:41] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: is there any text files labeled hs_pid_err where you have the launcher?
#2073 [21:41] <joeydev> so did you get your system to repeat the error?
#2074 [21:41] <su> joeydev, yes
#2075 [21:41] <joeydev> oh ok
#2076 [21:41] <joeydev> try this
#2077 [21:42] <AVGsDad> no...just options.txt
#2078 [21:42] <Lutzee> and joeydev he isn't on the latest java... java 7 is at update 7
#2079 [21:42] <Lutzee> AVGsDad: no where you have the minecraft.exe file
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#2081 [21:42] <AVGsDad> oh...i have it on my desktop
#2082 [21:42] <AVGsDad> hang on
#2083 [21:42] <joeydev> try 1st backing up your minecraft.jar and then installing a fresh minecraft.jar and see if you get the same error
#2084 [21:42] <su> k
#2085 [21:43] <joeydev> su that was meant for you ^
#2086 [21:43] <joeydev> ok good :D
#2087 [21:43] <AVGsDad> nothing there
#2088 [21:43] <Lutzee> I'm not sure then :/
#2089 [21:43] <AVGsDad> damn...ok
#2090 [21:44] <joeydev> AVG what is ur problem?
#2091 [21:44] <Lutzee> It's not giving me any errors so i can't tell what is happnening
#2092 [21:44] <AVGsDad> would 32-bit java vs. 64-bit have anything to do with it?
#2093 [21:44] <joeydev> no
#2094 [21:44] <AVGsDad> I wasn't able to get the launcher to render, but after Lutzee suggested updating the video drivers it works now
#2095 [21:44] <Lutzee> Most versions of Windows XP are 32bit anyway
#2096 [21:45] <AVGsDad> but, now when I log in, it shows me the loading screen briefly, but then the window closes
#2097 [21:45] <AVGsDad> that's what I thought
#2098 [21:45] <joeydev> oh ok cool :D
#2099 [21:45] <AVGsDad> and I can't do anything after it closes
#2100 [21:45] <AVGsDad> same behavior every time
#2101 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> AVGsDad - Could you try launching minecraft with these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#2102 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> It'll tell you to run minecraft in a command prompt via a batch file. Once Minecraft closes or crashes, an error report should print out in the cmd prompt that you can then share with us
#2103 [21:46] <joeydev> did you try removing all of your mod packs?
#2104 [21:46] <AVGsDad> i'll give it a shot
#2105 [21:46] <joeydev> ok
#2106 [21:46] <AVGsDad> I'm the dad of a 9 year old player...don't even know what a mod pack is ;)
#2107 [21:46] <joeydev> ya sometimes if you delete an important file in your minecraft.jar it will crash the system
#2108 [21:47] <joeydev> haha
#2109 [21:47] <joeydev> Ive done that before delete the wrong thing and the game crashes
#2110 [21:47] <AVGsDad> brb...going to do what it says at pastebin
#2111 [21:47] <joeydev> ok :D
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#2113 [21:48] <joeydev> how do I figure out the HTML code thing for my channel? I didnt copy it when I created it
#2114 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> The what?
#2115 [21:49] <Lutzee> joeydev: you mean your own IRC channel?
#2116 [21:49] <su> joeydev, found the problem
#2117 [21:49] <Lutzee> You can just use /join #<channelname>
#2118 [21:49] <joeydev> ya but I want to load the channel on my website
#2119 [21:50] <Lutzee> If everyone leaves a channel the channel gets removed btw
#2120 [21:50] <joeydev> su, awesome what was wrong?
#2121 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Ah, try webchat.esper.net
#2122 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> There'll be a "menu" button in the upper left that you can use to create your own java applet
#2123 [21:50] <su> joeydev, modloader was loading mods from subfolders in my mods folder and I have a 1.3.1 mods folder for downgrading to 1.3.1 if I ever need to
#2124 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> You can also customize it to join your own channel if you so wish
#2125 [21:51] <joeydev> su, ah ok so I guess I didnt help :'( haha
#2126 [21:51] <joeydev> oh ok
#2127 [21:51] <su> joeydev, no you did
#2128 [21:51] <joeydev> and how do u know this?
#2129 [21:51] <joeydev> su, oh well yahoo :D glad I could help :D
#2130 [21:51] <AVGsDad> ok...have the command prompt...how do I copy and paste it, or should i share an image?
#2131 [21:52] <AVGsDad> it actually reads exactly like what I posted to pastebin from the log file a while back...not throwing any errors
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#2134 [21:56] <joeydev> hello ash :D
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#2136 [21:56] <ashbash127> I accidentally deleted my minecraft folder and i was wondering how to get it back
#2137 [21:56] <ashbash127> im on a mac
#2138 [21:57] <joeydev> OH I can help ash I have a Mac too :D
#2139 [21:57] <ashbash127> ok cool its also wiped from my rubbish bin :/
#2140 [21:58] <joeydev> oh fudge
#2141 [21:58] <joeydev> well
#2142 [21:58] <joeydev> ...
#2143 [21:58] <joeydev> umm and your sure you deleted it?
#2144 [21:58] <AVGsDad> ok...well, I will let you all to other more important things....thanks a LOT for trying. I will bookmark this forum
#2145 [21:58] <ashbash127> yeah its not in application support
#2146 [21:59] <ashbash127> since i downloaded my mountain lion the sounds gone all weird is it the same with you?
#2147 [21:59] <joeydev> ya AVGs I will try to get on here more often and see if I can help some of you guys more. I love doing this :D
#2148 [22:00] <AVGsDad> I'm glad there are people to help...maybe you need a job in tech support!
#2149 [22:00] <joeydev> haha lol :D
#2150 [22:00] <joeydev> ty :D
#2151 [22:00] <AVGsDad> take care and thanks to you, Lutzee
#2152 [22:01] <joeydev> I spend A LOT of time trying things and breaking things and learning how to fix them :P
#2153 [22:01] <joeydev> np same to you :D
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#2155 [22:01] <Lutzee> Ugh the last thing i want is a job in tech support haha
#2156 [22:02] <joeydev> haha same :D Im good at it but i dont want todo it for life :D
#2157 [22:02] <ashbash127> will i need to buy a new computer to get my minecraft folder back?
#2158 [22:03] * yerg has worked in tech support. It has made him dispise humanity and much more jaded
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#2159 [22:03] <joeydev> no
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#2161 [22:03] <stuff> I'm trying to get on minecraft (brand new .minecraft folder) and i get this error: http://pastebin.com/hJqpAAM9
#2162 [22:04] <VoxelHead> stuff: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2163 [22:04] <VoxelHead> stuff: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2165 [22:04] <ashbash127> Can someone help me to get my minecraft folder back?
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#2167 [22:06] <joeydev> K I'm back sorry I had to move to my iPod Touch
#2168 [22:06] <ashbash127> ok
#2169 [22:07] <ashbash127> Joey have you got any suggestions to get my minecraft folder back?
#2170 [22:07] <joeydev> ash to get ur Minecraft folder so show again just run the Minecraft.jar launcher and it will automatically create a fresh new Minecraft folder in the Application Support folder
#2171 [22:08] <joeydev> As far as getting ur old one back idk but for right now it's history :/ sorry
#2172 [22:08] <ashbash127> is the minecraft.jar launcher just normal minecraft
#2173 [22:09] <joeydev> Oh just go to www.minecraft.net and download another Minecraft launcher
#2174 [22:10] <ashbash127> i just did that then
#2175 [22:10] <ashbash127> i still cant find any minecraft folder though
#2176 [22:10] <joeydev> Then just simply run that download and it automatically create u a new Minecraft folder
#2177 [22:10] <ashbash127> do i need to do force update?
#2178 [22:11] <joeydev> Yes
#2179 [22:12] <ashbash127> ok its doing that now
#2180 [22:12] <joeydev> Ok cool so is it now fixed?
#2181 [22:13] <ashbash127> no :(
#2182 [22:13] <joeydev> Had
#2183 [22:13] <joeydev> Oops
#2184 [22:13] <joeydev> So is ur Minecraft program running at all?
#2185 [22:13] <ashbash127> yes its running fine
#2186 [22:14] <tyteen4a03> joeydev: Running Minecraft once will create the game files again
#2187 [22:14] <joeydev> And u have gone to ur Application Support and can't find ur Minecraft folder?
#2188 [22:14] <ashbash127> yeah ive gone to application support and its not there
#2189 [22:14] <tyteen4a03> ashbash127: Are you on Lion or Mountain Lion by any chance?
#2190 [22:15] <ashbash127> yeah im on mountain lion
#2191 [22:15] <tyteen4a03> ??> ashbash127 mac/.minecraft/lion
#2192 [22:15] <VoxelHead> ashbash127: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#2193 [22:15] <joeydev> Mountian Lion
#2194 [22:15] <tyteen4a03> joeydev: wouldn't hurt
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#2196 [22:16] <ashbash127> ive typed that command in terminal
#2197 [22:17] <Guest> just popped in to let Lutzee and Joey know that after rebooting everything is working! My son will be very happy. Thanks for all your help.
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#2201 [22:17] <Lutzee> Guest: that is great :)
#2202 [22:17] <AVGsDad> sorry...that was me
#2203 [22:17] <tyteen4a03> joeydev: [10:16] <Guest> just popped in to let Lutzee and Joey know that after rebooting everything is working! My son will be very happy. Thanks for all your help.
#2204 [22:17] <tyteen4a03> ashbash127: Run it, then do this again:
#2205 [22:17] <tyteen4a03> ??> ashbash127 mac/reinst
#2206 [22:17] <VoxelHead> ashbash127: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2207 [22:17] <VoxelHead> ashbash127: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2208 [22:18] <joeydev> Ya no prob :)
#2209 [22:18] <AVGsDad> thanks again and have a good night...cya
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#2212 [22:19] <joeydev> if his Minecraft file started with a . Then the file is hidden.
#2213 [22:20] <joeydev> Brb guys
#2214 [22:20] <ashbash127> Thank you guys so much!
#2215 [22:20] <ashbash127> ive found my minecraft folder
#2216 [22:20] <ashbash127> is that all i need to do?
#2217 [22:22] <tyteen4a03> ashbash127: Yes
#2218 [22:22] <tyteen4a03> joeydev: ashbash127 found his .minecraft
#2219 [22:22] <ashbash127> ok now my sound is working
#2220 [22:22] <ashbash127> some of it
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#2222 [22:23] <Lukario45> I am haveing a mojor problem right now o.o
#2223 [22:23] <Lukario45> The font
#2224 [22:23] <Denizen> dafont
#2225 [22:24] <Lukario45> is f***ed up
#2226 [22:24] <Lukario45> I cant read a thing
#2227 [22:24] <Lukario45> rebooted server times now no results
#2228 [22:24] <Lukario45> several*
#2229 [22:24] <ashbash127> animal sounds work but everything else doesn't
#2230 [22:26] <Lukario45> Nvm it wroks now
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#2233 [22:26] <ashbash127> hey does anyone with a mac that has mountain lion get sound problems with mine craft?
#2234 [22:28] <Scott> nope
#2235 [22:28] <Scott> works forme
#2236 [22:28] <Eddie> Chuck Testa
#2237 [22:28] <ashbash127> hmm
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#2242 [22:30] <joeydev> <----------- back
#2243 [22:31] <joeydev> <-------- back
#2244 [22:31] <tyteen4a03> joeydev: Don't test the limit
#2245 [22:31] <tyteen4a03> ashbash127: What was the problem?
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#2247 [22:32] <joeydev> Why am I in the Voxel Head channel, sorry if I repeated myself I didn't mean to
#2248 [22:32] <ashbash127> since i downloaded mountain lion the pickup sound and block placing sound is really quiet
#2249 [22:33] <joeydev> I have Mountian lion and I haven't noticed that.
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#2254 [22:38] <ashbash127> Some people on minecraft forums have had the same problem
#2255 [22:49] <tyteen4a03> ashbash127: Not a user of mac, and joeydev seems to be gone
#2256 [22:49] <ashbash127> no problem
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#2272 [23:24] <Smanly> Hi
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