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#8 [00:32] <sokaz> I NEED HELP
#9 [00:32] <ejmcelfresh> so, what is up with this "spawn area" crap for 1.3+. I'm trying to develop an adventure map and I can't get the spawn to stay where I want it to stay. It's making the intro to the map I'm making very hard to determine
#10 [00:32] <sokaz> I
#11 [00:32] <sokaz> I NEED HELP PLACE
#12 [00:33] <sokaz> PLEASE
#13 [00:33] <sokaz> caps
#14 [00:33] <sokaz> i need help. any minecra
#15 [00:33] <DiskDaemon> sokaz: What do you need help with?
#16 [00:33] <sokaz> tok
#17 [00:33] <sokaz> ok
#18 [00:34] <sokaz> so im trying to get a gift code for my friend right. but it says i cant use the credit card agian 4 the next 24 hours
#19 [00:34] <sokaz> i didnt even use the card
#20 [00:35] <sokaz> this is costumer service correct/
#21 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> That would be Moneybookers enforcing that. You'll have to wait.
#22 [00:35] <sokaz> Moneybookers needs to go to hell
#23 [00:35] <ejmcelfresh> Daemon, do you have any info on my question?
#24 [00:35] <sokaz> cant i contact money bookers?
#25 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> sokaz: No, this is not customer service. We are volunteers in this channel who help people who come here
#26 [00:36] <DiskDaemon> Yes you can contact moneybookers - the provide an easy way to contact them via their web site
#27 [00:36] <DiskDaemon> For details see http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
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#29 [00:37] <ejmcelfresh> so, what is up with this "spawn area" for 1.3+. I'm trying to develop an adventure map and I can't get the spawn to stay where I want it to stay. It's making the intro to the map I'm making very hard to determine. I am using 1.4 12w37a snapshot. The random spawn "area" seems to be introduced at 1.3.1 though.
#30 [00:38] <DiskDaemon> ejmcelfresh: Sorry, we don't really help with old classic versions or development versions here
#31 [00:39] <ejmcelfresh> well 1.3.2 is the latest version
#32 [00:39] <ejmcelfresh> and the issue i'm having was introduced in the 1.3.1 patch
#33 [00:39] <ejmcelfresh> so even if I was using current patches, it would still be an issue
#34 [00:40] <ejmcelfresh> I was hoping that some one would have a definitive fix for it, as in keeping the player that joins the map to one static spawn location
#35 [00:40] <DiskDaemon> I don't much in the way of server spawning issues either. Others here might though
#36 [00:40] <ejmcelfresh> instead of spawning in to a random spot within the "area of spawn"
#37 [00:41] <DiskDaemon> Perhaps someone in the #smp channel might know too
#38 [00:42] <ejmcelfresh> okay
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#42 [00:44] <techno145> Hi guys
#43 [00:44] <techno145> tutors finished :D
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#45 [00:45] <ejmcelfresh> Hey techno, maybe you could help me
#46 [00:45] <techno145> yeah?
#47 [00:46] <techno145> dont ask to help, remember? :)
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#49 [00:46] <ejmcelfresh> in 1.3.1 apparently they introduced this "spawn area" where players can spawn randomly within so many blocks of the set spawn position. I am trying to develop an adventure map and I need the players to spawn in a very specific spot. I can't seem to get passed this "spawn area" thing so I can't get the spawn to be static per say
#50 [00:47] <ejmcelfresh> obviously this issue carries over into not only 1.3.2 but the 1.4 snapshots
#51 [00:47] <ejmcelfresh> I mean, it's fine for survival, but it makes adventure map creation a nightmare
#52 [00:47] <techno145> Well, the spawn area is 20x20 around the worldspawn
#53 [00:47] <DiskDaemon> You may have to make the entrance for your map more flexible in terms of its size
#54 [00:48] <ejmcelfresh> see, that's the thing, I set the spawn manually for global map spawn. The issue is that it never seems to actually spawn the player AT the spawn coordinates.
#55 [00:48] <ejmcelfresh> it's always within like 10 blocks
#56 [00:48] <ejmcelfresh> but never ON the spawn position
#57 [00:49] <techno145> Yeah, minecraft prefers it Around the spawn are, not on a specific spot
#58 [00:49] <techno145> maybe it's to stop bugs where the players are inside each other :P
#59 [00:49] <DiskDaemon> Sounds like a redesign is required
#60 [00:49] <ejmcelfresh> well I read up and it seems to be an intentional thing. The old spawn system was fine IMO, as long as the person setting the spawn didn't set it wrong
#61 [00:50] <ejmcelfresh> I realize that this new spawn system is a great help for spawn bugs, and it is quite nice for a survival map
#62 [00:50] <techno145> If you have cheats enabled, you could make a cube of bedrock, so that they are all in one place...
#63 [00:50] <DiskDaemon> If you want the old system, you will have to sue the old version
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#65 [00:51] <techno145> sue? you means use, right?
#66 [00:51] <techno145> *mean
#67 [00:51] <ejmcelfresh> This just seems like an oversight by minecraft devs
#68 [00:51] <DiskDaemon> *use
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#70 [00:51] <techno145> I don't know about that...
#71 [00:51] <ejmcelfresh> it is good for survival, yes, but there are a lot of people such as myself who are interested in making 'rpg' like adventure maps.
#72 [00:51] <techno145> I could be possible to stop spawn griefing
#73 [00:51] <DiskDaemon> Change happens
#74 [00:52] <techno145> such as "dig to the void under spawn"
#75 [00:52] <ejmcelfresh> and being forced to make huge buildings to start out in interferes with the creative process
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#77 [00:52] <ejmcelfresh> I think you're misunderstanding my point of view, I'm not talking for SMP, I'm talking about a single player adventure map
#78 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> ejmcelfresh: That's how it has to be'
#79 [00:53] <ejmcelfresh> for SMP, yes, this new spawn system is very good
#80 [00:53] <techno145> Okay
#81 [00:53] <ejmcelfresh> but for what I need it to be, it's quite inconvinient
#82 [00:53] <techno145> then couldn't you set a bed down?
#83 [00:53] <DiskDaemon> ejmcelfresh: That's right, and there is just the one version fo code for each version that you ahve to work with
#84 [00:53] <ejmcelfresh> but the bed would not effect new players
#85 [00:53] <techno145> They could all use it
#86 [00:53] <ejmcelfresh> what I'm saying is if I were to give a friend a copy of this map, he would not start near the bed
#87 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> So a redesign is required
#88 [00:54] <techno145> indeed
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#90 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> The game is not going to change to fit your requirements for your map, so your map is what has to change
#91 [00:54] <ejmcelfresh> So I'm forced to redesign my map because of a spawn system that is inconvinient for what I want it to be?
#92 [00:54] <TGPippie> can anyone help me?
#93 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> ejmcelfresh: Now you're catching on
#94 [00:54] <techno145> Yep
#95 [00:55] <ejmcelfresh> trust me, i don't think i'm the only one who finds this annoying, I found many threads with many people who share my view on it
#96 [00:55] <techno145> TGPippie, no need to ask for help
#97 [00:55] <techno145> this is a help channel
#98 [00:55] <TGPippie> thank you well my minecraft is running really slow besides in game options what can i do to make it run smoother?
#99 [00:56] <techno145> You could close off other apps to speed it up
#100 [00:56] <techno145> You could close off other apps to speed it up
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#102 [00:56] <DiskDaemon> ejmcelfresh: Perhaps these words of wisdom will help: "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference."
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#104 [00:57] <techno145> He left...
#105 [00:57] <techno145> So many people enjoy asking for help, eh DiskDaemon?
#106 [00:57] <TGPippie> other things as in like a new graphics card or somthing i can install
#107 [00:57] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#108 [00:57] <TGPippie> my friend told me about a good graphics card called nividia
#109 [00:58] <TGPippie> he said it made his game run really good with advanced open gl
#110 [00:58] <techno145> What do you have at the moment?
#111 [00:58] <TGPippie> right now im not sure if anything
#112 [00:59] <techno145> ... Have 11.7s lag
#113 [00:59] <techno145> TGPippie, check your settings on Minecraft
#114 [01:00] <TGPippie> well on minecraft smoothe lighting is off i run a short render distance i have a fast graphics 3d anaglyph is ofvanced open glf and i dont have a graphics card to turn on advanced open gl
#115 [01:01] <techno145> What intergrated graphics?
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#117 [01:01] <TGPippie> please explain intergrated graphics
#118 [01:01] <techno145> Intergrated graphics are built into your computer's CPU
#119 [01:02] <techno145> ??< lag
#120 [01:02] <TGPippie> how do i find the intergrated graphics
#121 [01:02] <DiskDaemon> integrated is where the graphics chip is built in with the motherboard
#122 [01:02] <techno145> I thought that was dedicated
#123 [01:02] <techno145> and intergrated was where the graphics chip is built into the CPU
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#125 [01:03] <techno145> ??< Grwaphics
#126 [01:03] <techno145> ??< Graphics
#127 [01:03] <techno145> ??< help
#128 [01:03] <TGPippie> do i go to system properties? or somthing else?
#129 [01:03] <DiskDaemon> The integrated graphics chip share the system ram
#130 [01:03] <DiskDaemon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_processing_unit#Integrated_graphics_solutions
#131 [01:04] <TGPippie> my RAM is 4gb
#132 [01:04] <TGPippie> if thats what your wondering
#133 [01:04] <techno145> Good enough for minecraft, at the very least
#134 [01:05] <techno145> Laptop or desktop?
#135 [01:05] <TGPippie> laptop
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#137 [01:05] <techno145> CPU is?
#138 [01:06] <TGPippie> CPU as in processor?
#139 [01:06] <techno145> yep
#140 [01:08] <TGPippie> intel(R) core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5800 2.00 ghz
#141 [01:08] <techno145> Hmm...
#142 [01:08] <techno145> Intergrated graphics on that for my friend's laptop is rather bad
#143 [01:09] <TGPippie> is there anything i can do?
#144 [01:09] <techno145> Do you have much open when running minecraft?
#145 [01:10] <tyteen4a03> techno145: If it's an intel GPU that does not have the word HD in it, it's very unlike it's going to be able to run minecraft
#146 [01:10] <TGPippie> no
#147 [01:10] <tyteen4a03> *unlikely
#148 [01:11] <techno145> My home laptop doesn't have the word HD in it and it rune minecraft fine! >:(
#149 [01:11] <tyteen4a03> techno145: still talking about intel integrated gpu?
#150 [01:11] <techno145> sorry, ran off topic a little...
#151 [01:11] <TGPippie> anything i can get graphics card?
#152 [01:12] <techno145> TGPippie, you could go to newegg.com
#153 [01:12] <TGPippie> that does?
#154 [01:12] <techno145> it's a website
#155 [01:12] <techno145> for computer parts
#156 [01:12] <tyteen4a03> if you don't know any of these stuff, just get a new computer
#157 [01:12] <TGPippie> i have no money >_<
#158 [01:12] <techno145> preferably a desktop
#159 [01:13] <techno145> So you only just have a laptop, right?
#160 [01:13] <TGPippie> yea
#161 [01:13] <techno145> huh... -_-
#162 [01:13] <TGPippie> nothing i can do?
#163 [01:14] <techno145> not much
#164 [01:14] <TGPippie> so just throw my laptop out a window?
#165 [01:14] <techno145> Nah, you could close as much stuff as possible then run minecraft
#166 [01:14] <techno145> it'll at least be competent then
#167 [01:15] <TGPippie> thats already covered
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#169 [01:16] <techno145> then not much else to do...
#170 [01:17] <TGPippie> thanks anyways
#171 [01:17] <techno145> no problem
#172 [01:17] <dude34221> does windows version buy include andrioid or do i need to buy seperate?
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#174 [01:17] <techno145> seperate
#175 [01:17] <techno145> i think
#176 [01:17] <techno145> ??< mobile
#177 [01:18] <techno145> ??< android
#178 [01:18] <dude34221> yea android is mobild
#179 [01:18] <techno145> ??< index
#180 [01:18] <techno145> gah
#181 [01:18] <Smanly> Depends how you got it.
#182 [01:18] <Smanly> I think you got both with the Humble bundle
#183 [01:18] <dude34221> i have yet to buy, i made mistake not to buy years ago when it was cheaper
#184 [01:18] <Smanly> Otherwise, I think its per platfor,m
#185 [01:19] <Smanly> ERm
#186 [01:19] <tyteen4a03> Smanly: I'm not aware that Minecraft is in the humble bundle
#187 [01:19] <dude34221> thanks i will look up humble bundle
#188 [01:19] <Smanly> Mobile is not years old
#189 [01:19] <tyteen4a03> But PC Version, XBox version and Mobile version are all separate
#190 [01:19] <Smanly> Nor is it in the bunble anymore
#191 [01:19] <dude34221> i mean pc version smanly
#192 [01:19] <techno145> It seems you will have to fork out for each
#193 [01:19] <Smanly> Oh, well its worth the money, i would say.
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#195 [01:20] <dude34221> thanks, is there any future plans to bundle cpu+mobile?
#196 [01:20] <Smanly> We wouldn't know that.
#197 [01:21] <dude34221> thats a dual market grab
#198 [01:21] <Smanly> But i doubt it
#199 [01:21] <techno145> ??< irc/bots
#200 [01:21] <Smanly> I think I got the mobile version for $00.10
#201 [01:21] <Smanly> lolo
#202 [01:21] <techno145> Thats cheap...
#203 [01:21] <Smanly> I guess
#204 [01:23] <dude34221> to simply not provide an option for pc+mobile bundle is bad business
#205 [01:23] <dude34221> not really bad business per say, but inefficiant
#206 [01:24] <dude34221> it would be nice if some real marketing people would influence this company. i have looked over their website as a new consumer and just see holes all around. but i am also a fortune 500 business manager
#207 [01:25] <techno145> You could suggest it to mojang, and have them enlist your help
#208 [01:26] <dude34221> to not market a mobile+desktop bundle is just a bad idea. how do i contact mojang?
#209 [01:26] <dude34221> i played minecraft once a few years ago, came back today to see whats up
#210 [01:26] <dude34221> as a startup, you need as many players playing, and people talking about your game as possible
#211 [01:27] <techno145> Go on their website
#212 [01:27] <techno145> or minecraft.net and click contact
#213 [01:28] <dude34221> do u need to be logged in to see contact?
#214 [01:28] <techno145> you shouldn't
#215 [01:28] <dude34221> i see only HomeGame CommunityStoreProfileHelp
#216 [01:29] <techno145> Try help
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#218 [01:30] <dude34221> i will try tomorrow, even the website has room to improve. i will try help. the website is not even optimized for where readers' eyes default to the website. this game has so much unrealised potential it makes me sad.
#219 [01:36] <techno145> That was a litttle unusual
#220 [01:38] <techno145> It seems that nearly everyone joins for help of some kind... Even businessmen :)
#221 [01:41] <techno145> who's Voxelhead's master?
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#223 [02:00] <techno145> ??< irc/multitasking
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#228 [02:07] <hamano67> hi
#229 [02:07] <Andrio> Hello
#230 [02:07] <hamano67> I have a Problem :/
#231 [02:08] <Andrio> what is it?
#232 [02:08] <hamano67> My minecraft wont login
#233 [02:08] <hamano67> I got fine internet
#234 [02:08] <hamano67> I think someone named Wug solved the problem
#235 [02:09] <hamano67> but again...
#236 [02:10] <hamano67> can anyone solve it?
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#241 [02:25] <hamano67> Hi
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#244 [02:36] <ctt> guys
#245 [02:36] <ctt> i ahve a errors
#246 [02:36] <ctt> again
#247 [02:36] <ctt> IT FIXED
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#249 [02:36] <ctt> :D
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#252 [02:43] <Smanly> woah
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#267 [03:37] <Anonymous> Where can i download genetics mod for minecraft 1.3.2 that uses forge?
#268 [03:38] <Anonymous> someone?
#269 [03:38] <DrNoodle> ?? mods
#270 [03:38] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#271 [03:38] <DiskDaemon> I don't think that it exists
#272 [03:38] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#288 [05:42] <olokos> is anyonehere?
#289 [05:42] <Wug> I just happen to be
#290 [05:42] <DiskDaemon> of course
#291 [05:43] <Wug> :presence
#292 [05:43] <WugBot> presence: Yes, there are always people here. Go ahead and describe your problem.
#293 [05:43] <olokos> great. Does anyone know where i can download WorldGuard for cratbukkit 1.3.2?..
#294 [05:43] <Wug> have you tried googling it
#295 [05:44] <olokos> i checked at the bukkit official site and i've found version only for 1.2.5
#296 [05:44] <DiskDaemon> Also, the people in the #bukkit channel are better placed to advise about bukkit-related situations
#297 [05:44] <Wug> google gets me this http://www.minecraftdl.com/worldguard-plugin-for-bukkit/
#298 [05:45] <olokos> ah. sorry
#299 [05:45] <olokos> i only tryed to look after it on bukkit site.
#300 [05:45] <olokos> thanks a lot :)
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#308 [06:08] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: a simple mods will send them away
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#310 [06:10] <DiskDaemon> It can do, but somtimes it seems a bit too impersonal for my taste
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#312 [06:14] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: you sound enough like a bot :P
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#321 [06:28] <mr_sticky> Hello. Xubuntu 12.04 here, I've tried everything but nothing helps the "Done Loading" freeze/
#322 [06:28] <mr_sticky> Redirected to here from the freenode #minecraft channel
#323 [06:29] <mr_sticky> How do I get past the Done Loading screen?
#324 [06:30] <mr_sticky> When getting past the login screen, there will be created a .minecraft (empty) with an empty /bin in there
#325 [06:30] <mr_sticky> It won't download anything
#326 [06:30] <mr_sticky> Can anyone plz help?
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#330 [06:36] <mr_sticky> Anyone?
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#332 [06:37] <mib_etvil4> important: is there a way to protect a region from creepers/npc enemys? i mean if we have worldguard and now npcs destroying our city region
#333 [06:37] <mib_etvil4> how we can stop them from destroying objects?
#334 [06:43] <mr_sticky> Nvm fixed my problem
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#350 [07:30] <dannycefado_> Hallo ?
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#353 [07:34] <jubaofcourse> How to cancel his account with Minecraft?
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#355 [07:34] <jubaofcourse> or how can i delete my minecraft account?
#356 [07:35] <Lutzee> Er thats not possible
#357 [07:36] <jubaofcourse> can delete a admin my account?
#358 [07:36] <Necrodoom> nope
#359 [07:37] <jubaofcourse> Is there no chance?
#360 [07:37] <Morrolan> You can migrate your account, and change your email address to something non-existant, but that's about it.
#361 [07:38] <Morrolan> mib_etvil4 - You'll want the creeper-explosion and enderman-grief flags.
#362 [07:38] <Lutzee> jubaofcourse: my i enquire why you want to remove the account?
#363 [07:39] <jubaofcourse> I play for a long time no more, therefore, I would delete it.
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#365 [07:40] <Morrolan> Heh, I've probably still got a few dozen accounts of various online games which I don't play anymore.
#366 [07:40] <Morrolan> There isn't really any harm in just letting that acc collect dust.
#367 [07:42] <jubaofcourse> Ok, then I'm not using it.
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#369 [07:44] * Morrolan scratches head
#369 [07:44] <Morrolan> Why anyone would want to delete an account which contains no personal information whatsoever is beyond me.
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#379 [08:48] <ThomQ> Hi all!
#380 [08:49] <Andrio> Hi
#381 [08:49] <ThomQ> Question: Can I have carts driving to the end of a rail, and then reverse on the same track?
#382 [08:50] <Andrio> I think so, if you end the rail on an upward slope
#383 [08:51] <ThomQ> hmm, the whole rails is an upward / downward slope into our mine :)
#384 [08:51] <Morrolan> Alternatively, put a slope at the very end.
#385 [08:52] <ThomQ> yeah, non powered.. That might be an option
#386 [08:52] <Morrolan> Err, not slope, loop.
#387 [08:53] <ThomQ> Ahh, a little loop at the end.. I havent used crosssections with rails before, I'll see how that'll turn out
#388 [08:53] <Andrio> well, I think you should know that if you power the middle of a T-junction with redstone, it'll change direction
#389 [08:54] <ThomQ> ahhh, so I can automate it.. Yeah Im just starting out with my rails / powered rails, so trying to figure it all out :D
#390 [08:55] <ThomQ> thanks
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#392 [09:01] <ThomQ> another questoin: How can I have powered piece of rail that's always turned on, as in with no lever
#393 [09:02] <Calinou> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/2012-09-15_15.00.59.png < see this about the rails
#394 [09:02] <Calinou> once you placed the rails like this, you should remove the wood block
#395 [09:02] <ThomQ> I get a 404 error for that link
#396 [09:03] <Calinou> looks like this once finished: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/2012-09-15_15.02.53.png
#397 [09:03] <Calinou> still uploading both of them
#398 [09:03] <Calinou> blame my connection
#399 [09:04] <ThomQ> :D no prob, thanks for uploading!
#400 [09:04] <Calinou> oh also, if you put a powered rail which points to a wall, cart will reverse direction
#401 [09:04] <Calinou> only works with opaque blocks
#402 [09:04] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Leave the lever turned on? :P
#403 [09:04] <Calinou> or put a torch under so that it's somehow invisible
#404 [09:05] <Calinou> or use a map editor/mod to place an activated power rail
#405 [09:05] <ThomQ> Ahhhhh redstone torches.
#406 [09:05] <ThomQ> Herne: Hehe, yeah, ok that's an option as well :P
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#408 [09:05] <FLHerne> Yeah, but levers are cheaper and more flexible ;-)
#409 [09:06] <ThomQ> true.. Thanks for all the tips. I'm going to try them out :D
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#411 [09:06] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Tried buttons for a launch/dtop section?
#412 [09:07] <FLHerne> *stop
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#415 [09:14] <ThomQ> FLherne: Yeah i got levers at the beginning and end now. Calinou's suggestion of just putting a block at the end + powered rail works beatifully. I got it going up and down continuously now :)
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#418 [09:15] <ThomQ> Just about to install the bukkit pluging where the carts pick-up and deliver stuff automaticly :D
#419 [09:15] <ThomQ> our mine is Waaay to deep, plus our farm is also a long walk
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#421 [09:16] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Mind out to keep animals off the tracks :P
#422 [09:16] <FLHerne> At least it doesn't kill you in vanilla ;-)
#423 [09:17] <ThomQ> hehe yeah, Im going for that plugin as well. That it kills things :D have to keep it fun ;)
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#426 [09:21] <Necrodoom> minecartmainia ThomQ?
#427 [09:21] <Necrodoom> mania*
#428 [09:23] <Calinou> Necrodoom: MCM is dead since long time ago...
#429 [09:23] <Necrodoom> theres a reloaded version i remember
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#431 [09:24] <theo> hello, i have just purchased minecraft. I download it on my mac, but i cannot open it. message " minecraft is damaged, put it in the bin"
#432 [09:24] <xy> theo: try removing it and installing it again.
#433 [09:25] <Lutzee> ??> theo mac/gatekeeper
#434 [09:25] <VoxelHead> theo: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#435 [09:25] <theo> i have already done it tw
#436 [09:26] <theo> thank you , i will try and revert if it does not work !
#437 [09:26] <ThomQ> Necro: There are a couple of them out there. Ill try a few, see which works best
#438 [09:26] <Lutzee> theo: we see it a lot, i'm pretty confident :)
#439 [09:26] <ThomQ> also installing Jail.. Getting sick of my friends ffin up the castle and stealing from my chest!
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#441 [09:27] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Ender chests are good for ant-stealing ;-)
#442 [09:28] <Morrolan> "/ban" is even better. :3
#443 [09:28] <FLHerne> And combination locks connected to lava deals with intruders well... :D
#444 [09:28] <ThomQ> ow, wow.. With those chests, you don't even need carts! :D
#445 [09:29] <Lutzee> moving stuff with carts is fun though :p
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#447 [09:29] <ThomQ> heheh true. Plus it's Lots of work getting eye's of enders
#448 [09:29] <ThomQ> heheh true. Plus it's Lots of work getting eye's of enders
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#450 [09:30] <ThomQ> haha Morrolan: We just play with 4 guys, I don't want to ban anyone or we'll lose 25% of our workforce ;)
#451 [09:30] <ThomQ> I just want to remind them who's boss
#452 [09:30] <Morrolan> Heh.
#453 [09:30] <Lutzee> I've seen vanilla endermen farms
#454 [09:30] <Lutzee> The output was quite surprising
#455 [09:30] <Andrio> My friend has one.
#456 [09:31] <ThomQ> A farm? You can prevent them from teleporting?
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#458 [09:31] <Morrolan> Will they even teleport when they're not attacking?
#459 [09:31] <Lutzee> Morrolan: nope, thats the whole point
#460 [09:32] <Lutzee> ThomQ: there are ways of killing them without attacking ;P
#461 [09:32] <ThomQ> Ahh ok.. Yeah I dont know that much about them, usually I just run :P
#462 [09:32] <ThomQ> hehe true, Ive seen some weird Sheep & Cow killing machines as well :P
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#464 [09:39] <Calinou> Lutzee: about gatekeeper, it isn't even fun - it says potentially malicious stuff is "damaged"
#465 [09:39] <Calinou> apple needs a fix
#466 [09:39] <Calinou> :|
#467 [09:39] <Calinou> and again, nothing is malicious if you're not an idiot
#468 [09:41] <Morrolan> It's not even about malicious software, its default settings just prevents you to install software from anywhere but the appstore or "trusted developers".
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#470 [09:41] <Morrolan> I suppose in the next version you won't be able to disable it anymore, and another version later you'll only have the choice of getting software through the appstore. ;)
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#474 [09:42] <Necrodoom> makes me want to switch to linux to stay away from microsoft and apple lockdown wars
#475 [09:43] <ThomQ> the version after that will have Itunes integrated, through wich you can listen music, or buy blocks!
#476 [09:43] <Morrolan> As far as I'm aware, Microsoft hasn't been locking down its operating system any more, recently.
#477 [09:43] <Morrolan> The one thing I can think of right now is the warning when trying to install uncertified software, but atleast that one doesn't block anything.
#478 [09:43] <Necrodoom> windows 8 does apps now, i heard
#479 [09:43] <Morrolan> Ah.
#480 [09:44] <Morrolan> Haven't played around with that one, yet. :)
#481 [09:44] <Morrolan> Oh, that is, Vista had a giant productivity block, called UAC. ;D
#482 [09:44] <ThomQ> couldnt you turn UAC on and off in Vista?
#483 [09:44] <Morrolan> Yea, you could.
#484 [09:45] <Morrolan> Supposedly it's much less annoying in Windows 7, but I've disabled it nevertheless.
#485 [09:45] <ThomQ> yeah, me too :P
#486 [09:46] <FLHerne> Necrodoom: Come over here :-) It's great
#487 [09:46] <Necrodoom> FLHerne: ?
#488 [09:46] <ThomQ> I dont get into many Apple vs Microsoft debates anymore. I understand that if Windows is a musclecar, and OSX is a hybrid
#489 [09:46] * FLHerne stares at a nice Linux desktop :P
#489 [09:47] <ThomQ> that being said, Linux is the only OS i don't have installed on my rig :P
#490 [09:47] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Install it then :P
#491 [09:47] <FLHerne> It's free, and runs on everything :D
#492 [09:47] <Calinou> doesn't
#493 [09:47] <Calinou> if you have an AMD gpu, good luck getting fglrx working or live with mesa's slowness
#494 [09:47] <Calinou> if you have wireless, good luck getting working firmware sometimes
#495 [09:48] <Calinou> (and bad luck if you have broadcom)
#496 [09:48] <Morrolan> Hahaha.
#497 [09:48] <Morrolan> Don't you mention it.
#498 [09:48] <FLHerne> Calinou: I have an HD7770 :P
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#500 [09:48] <FLHerne> fglrx is working quite nicely, thanks :P
#501 [09:48] <Calinou> even nvidia's proprietary driver forces me to use 50hz on my laptop while it supports 60hz
#502 [09:48] <Morrolan> My old notebook had a broadcom wireless card.
#503 [09:48] <Calinou> this is facepalmable
#504 [09:48] <Morrolan> Then again, I did manage to get it working. My new notebook, on the other hand, has an Atheros ethernet card.
#505 [09:49] <Morrolan> Guess what? Not supported by the Linux Kernel.
#506 [09:49] <Calinou> good luck finding a decent distro which leaves time for other stuff (this means: NOT arch)
#507 [09:49] <Calinou> :P
#508 [09:49] <ThomQ> :D NVidia vs AMD, now that's a discussion I still like to get into! God, how I hate AMD :P
#509 [09:49] <Morrolan> AMD ftw \o/
#510 [09:49] <Calinou> ubuntu is slow and bloated, debian is reasonably fast but its FOSS zealotism will quickly get on your nerves
#511 [09:49] <Calinou> nvidia > amd... even on windows
#512 [09:49] <Calinou> it has better opengl support
#513 [09:49] <Morrolan> Hah!
#514 [09:49] <FLHerne> Calinou: Mint KDE? More user-oriented than Debian, less awful than Ubuntu :P
#515 [09:49] <Calinou> lubuntu seems to be ok bloat-wise
#516 [09:49] <Calinou> LOL MINT
#517 [09:50] <Calinou> the main dev of mint is french; this explains why mint sucks
#518 [09:50] <FLHerne> Mint KDE > Debian with KDE > Kubuntu :P
#519 [09:50] <ThomQ> GTX 570 > (Radeon 4870 *10)
#520 [09:50] <FLHerne> Calinou: ...except that it doesn't :D
#521 [09:51] <Boreeas> gnome 3 > KDE
#522 [09:51] <Calinou> it beeps every time I boot it (LMDE) - I'm not using a distro forked off q3map2
#523 [09:51] <Calinou> gnome 3 (fallback) is ok, but slow :P better use lxde
#524 [09:51] <FLHerne> Boreeas: GNOME 3 < anything but Unity :P
#525 [09:52] <Calinou> lxde is pretty much like windows xp
#526 [09:52] <Boreeas> Eww Win XP
#527 [09:52] <Calinou> but prettier
#528 [09:52] <Boreeas> I don'T like that look
#529 [09:52] <FLHerne> Boreeas: It doesn't have the hideos blue blobbiness, thankfully :-)
#530 [09:52] <Boreeas> FLHerne: Unity actually got better with 12.04
#531 [09:52] <Boreeas> I still dislike it, but that's me
#532 [09:52] <Calinou> openbox FTW :P it's the default lubuntu wm
#533 [09:53] <ThomQ> :D I'm loving it.. It doesn't happen that much that I'm the least geekie in a (chat)room :P
#534 [09:53] * FLHerne uses either LXDE or KDE, depending on performance :-)
#534 [09:53] <Calinou> lightweight and easily customizable
#535 [09:53] <Boreeas> And Gnome 3 is just plain awesome
#536 [09:53] <Calinou> xfce isn't really lightweight anymore
#537 [09:53] <FLHerne> Calinou: twm is more leightweight :P
#538 [09:53] <Calinou> Boreeas: fallback or shell?
#539 [09:53] <Boreeas> Especially with the shell extensions
#540 [09:53] <Calinou> :/
#541 [09:53] <Boreeas> Calinou: shell
#542 [09:53] <FLHerne> Boreeas: KDE is far more configurable :D
#543 [09:53] <Calinou> I used fallback for a while. it ok, reasonably fast (no desktop effects) but it is not very configurable
#544 [09:53] <Boreeas> But not as pretty
#545 [09:53] <FLHerne> And slightly less CPU-heavy, IIRC
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#547 [09:54] <Calinou> KDE is buggy and slow :P
#548 [09:54] <Calinou> heard it was faster these days due to various updates
#549 [09:54] <Calinou> and I dislike qt :P
#550 [09:54] <Boreeas> gnome-shell is a memory hog though
#551 [09:54] <Boreeas> I need to reload it every other day
#552 [09:54] <Morrolan> oO
#553 [09:54] <FLHerne> Boreeas: What? It's customisable to the extent that it can look like anything else :P
#554 [09:54] <Morrolan> You're complaining about various DEs being slow?
#555 [09:54] <Boreeas> FLHerne: Yeah, but gnome is like that out of the box :P
#556 [09:54] <FLHerne> Calinou: KDE 4.0 was appalling. 4.9 is *very* good :-)
#557 [09:55] <FLHerne> Boreeas: Personally, I quite like the KDE defaults
#558 [09:55] <Calinou> Morrolan: DE war... 8)
#559 [09:55] <FLHerne> But it's only 'get new themes', choose theme, drag some panels and menus about if you want it different... ;-)
#560 [09:55] <Morrolan> Calinou - Heh.
#561 [09:56] <FLHerne> If you don't like GNOME 3 out of the box (I don't) you're stuck :P
#562 [09:58] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: KDE feels too configurable and somewhat not as elegant as GNOME
#563 [09:59] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: If you don't like it being configurable, don't configure the bits you don't want to configure :P
#564 [09:59] <Calinou> KDE is quite elegant
#565 [09:59] <FLHerne> And 'elegance' with KDE depends entirely on the taste of the person configuring it :P
#566 [09:59] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: It bothers me that I always accidentally enter the configuration page and then have no idea how to get out
#567 [09:59] <tyteen4a03> and then I end up deleting the whole taskbar just to create it again
#568 [10:00] <tyteen4a03> uh, because I screwed up during the process
#569 [10:00] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: Eh?
#570 [10:00] <tyteen4a03> I know I am the one to blame, but I guess I was just dumb
#571 [10:00] <FLHerne> You click on the (x). By default it's in the top right corner ;-)
#572 [10:01] <FLHerne> If you want, it can be in the top left corner :P
#573 [10:01] <tyteen4a03> nah, I prefer the top right
#574 [10:01] <FLHerne> Or the middle. Or somewhere else...
#575 [10:01] <tyteen4a03> I guess... I couldn't remember what I was stuck in
#576 [10:01] <FLHerne> CONFIGURABILITY!
#577 [10:01] <Calinou> top right is better, +1
#578 [10:01] <Boreeas> +1 for top right
#579 [10:01] <tyteen4a03> I guess I just don't like KDE as I like Unity (although unity sucks)
#580 [10:02] <FLHerne> Mine's top right. Some ex-Mac users like left though :P
#581 [10:02] <tyteen4a03> Not a mac user and probably never will be
#582 [10:02] <tyteen4a03> when on Ubuntu 12.04 Unity's login screen is cool while KDE looks so... old
#583 [10:02] <Calinou> unity is ok... unity devs deserve nobel prize for their "HUD" which allows searching in an app's menus :P
#584 [10:02] <Calinou> FINALLY, GIMP IS 5x BETTER
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#586 [10:02] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: The new dock design sucks
#587 [10:02] <FLHerne> I've been an OS9, OSX, Win2K, WinXP and then Linux user :-)
#588 [10:02] <tyteen4a03> and there's no friggin way to turn it off without falling back to gnome classic
#589 [10:03] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: never had the chance to experience OS9/X, but did use Win98
#590 [10:03] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: With KDE you can put anything in any panel you want, and put those on any screen edge you like :P
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#592 [10:04] <FLHerne> Or in the middle of your desktop, but that's useless :D
#593 [10:06] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: What are the outdated DOS-based Windows like? Never really played with them much :P
#594 [10:06] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: I dunno... KDE just feels 00'
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#596 [10:06] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: as you see in the screenshots
#597 [10:06] <tyteen4a03> I used 98 when I was 4 though, that's 2000 for me
#598 [10:07] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: What does 00' look like? :P
#599 [10:07] * FLHerne doesn't really pay attention to the latest styles ;-)
#599 [10:07] * Calinou now knows tyteen4a03 is 16
#599 [10:07] <Calinou> I'M GOOGLE
#600 [10:07] <FLHerne> Odd, same age :-)
#601 [10:07] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: yeah, like I leave that information there accidentally
#602 [10:07] * FLHerne had MacOS 7 then :P
#602 [10:08] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: 2000... not much I remember
#603 [10:08] <tyteen4a03> during that time I got a bad storm though, water kept seeping in
#604 [10:08] <Oxymoron> When I first started playing Minecraft I simply downloaded the launcher without getting a premium account first. I realized that doing that only allowed me to play 1.2.5. (The latest being 1.3 at the time) yesterday though, it upgraded itself to 1.3.2. It's cool, but I never went premium.
#605 [10:08] <FLHerne> Oxymoron: I think it just updates itself anyway :P
#606 [10:09] <Oxymoron> I never paid for it though
#607 [10:10] <Oxymoron> And if that's the case, then why didn't it upgrade earlier?
#608 [10:10] <Oxymoron> The entire time I was stuck with 1.2.5 until yesterday.
#609 [10:10] <FLHerne> Oxymoron: I don't think the demo limits your version, IIRC it has a playing-time or something
#610 [10:11] <Oxymoron> I've been playing it for a long time and it never warned me of a time limit.
#611 [10:11] <FLHerne> Weird. It shouldn't do that :P
#612 [10:12] <Oxymoron> I know that the directions for the demo say to press the "Play Demo" button in the launcher. (If you don't have a premium account) I never found
#613 [10:12] <Oxymoron> that.
#614 [10:12] <Andrio> Are you using a cracked launcher?
#615 [10:12] <Calinou> inb4 yes
#616 [10:12] <Oxymoron> No. I did'g pirate it.
#617 [10:13] <Oxymoron> Oh, but I can't play on servers
#618 [10:13] <FLHerne> Are you sure you got it from http://www.minecraft.net/download ?
#619 [10:13] <Oxymoron> Yes.
#620 [10:13] <FLHerne> That really shouldn't work like that :o
#621 [10:13] <tyteen4a03> Oxymoron: Does anybody else share your computer?
#622 [10:13] <Oxymoron> I simply went to the normal Minecraft website and found the launcher for download.
#623 [10:14] * Selbram|away is now known as Selbram
#624 [10:14] <Oxymoron> Yes. But I'm the only person that plays Minecraft on it.
#625 [10:14] <Oxymoron> None of my friends have logged on.
#626 [10:15] <tyteen4a03> Oxymoron: Can you give me your account name?
#627 [10:15] <Oxymoron> Oxymoron32GB
#628 [10:15] <tyteen4a03> !paid : Can you give me your account name?
#629 [10:15] <tyteen4a03> [22:15] <Oxymoron> O
#630 [10:15] <tyteen4a03> oops
#631 [10:15] <tyteen4a03> !paid Oxymoron32GB
#632 [10:15] <tyteen4a03> silly AuBot
#633 [10:15] <tyteen4a03> !paid Oxymoron32GB
#634 [10:16] <Oxymoron> I never paid for it. But it is legitimate. Didn't pirate it in any way.
#635 [10:16] <tyteen4a03> Oxymoron: I can't check right now, server overloaded
#636 [10:16] <Oxymoron> Mm.
#637 [10:17] <tyteen4a03> Oxymoron: Are you sure you're logged in as Oxymoron32GB on minecraft.net?
#638 [10:17] <Oxymoron> It still says "User not premium" when logging in. But I just press "Play offline" and it lets me through.
#639 [10:18] <Oxymoron> Yes. It works.
#640 [10:18] <tyteen4a03> Oxymoron: It means somebody has logged in Minecraft on your computer
#641 [10:18] <Oxymoron> My parents never touched it. And I'd know if my friends did too.
#642 [10:19] <tyteen4a03> Oxymoron: you wouldn't
#643 [10:19] <tyteen4a03> Oxymoron: They can simply delete Minecraft.exe as if nothing happened, but the actual game files are not deleted
#644 [10:19] <Oxymoron> Well, I'm on a Mac.
#645 [10:20] <tyteen4a03> Oxymoron: Minecraft.dmg in this case
#646 [10:20] <tyteen4a03> you get the idea
#647 [10:20] <Oxymoron> And I've actually deleted the launcher a few times. (Due to glitches)
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#649 [10:21] <Oxymoron> I know that the saves are actually in a folder somewhere.
#650 [10:21] <FLHerne> Oxymoron: The login info is too ;-)
#651 [10:21] <Oxymoron> ?
#652 [10:21] <Calinou> tyteen4a03: you mean .app? :P
#653 [10:21] <Oxymoron> Oh, but where?
#654 [10:22] <Calinou> .zip contains the .app btw
#655 [10:22] <FLHerne> If you can click 'play offline', it must still have *someone's* login info stored
#656 [10:23] <Oxymoron> I've always been clicking on "Play offline".
#657 [10:23] <Oxymoron> And I was the first one to log on.
#658 [10:23] <Hedge> Could the login information be a remain from the Free Weekend few years ago?
#659 [10:23] <Oxymoron> Years? I got it over the summer.
#660 [10:24] <Hedge> Okay, not then
#661 [10:24] <tyteen4a03> Hedge: Free Gift would stay permenant
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#663 [10:24] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: don't care
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#665 [10:24] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: It means somebody downaloded the Minecraft files before
#666 [10:24] <Oxymoron> I seriously doubt that.
#667 [10:24] <Oxymoron> I
#668 [10:25] <Oxymoron> I asked the same question yesterday and they concluded that it's simply a glitch.
#669 [10:25] <tyteen4a03> Oxymoron: Here? By official helpers? (those with + or @)
#670 [10:26] <Oxymoron> Yeah. It was here, but I forgot who it was.
#671 [10:26] <tyteen4a03> Oxymoron: It really doesn't look like a glitch
#672 [10:27] <Oxymoron> I really don't know why. But I can assure you that I'm the only one that logs into it. But is there a way to check anyway?
#673 [10:28] <tyteen4a03> Oxymoron: There currently is not a way to
#674 [10:28] <tyteen4a03> *no way to
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#676 [10:29] <Oxymoron> I guess it's left to no answer again
#677 [10:29] <Kanegasi> login information is stored in an extensionless file called "lastlogin" in your .minecraft folder
#678 [10:29] <Kanegasi> delete it
#679 [10:29] <FLHerne> Oxymoron: Tried deleting lastlogin?
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#681 [10:29] * FLHerne always gets ninja's like that :-(
#681 [10:29] <Kanegasi> ¬_¬
#682 [10:29] <tyteen4a03> Kanegasi: I don't think he's looking to delete the copy of Minecraft
#683 [10:29] <tyteen4a03> and f[bleep], lastlogin
#684 [10:29] <Kanegasi> i didnt say that
#685 [10:30] <Kanegasi> i said for him to delete "lastlogin"
#686 [10:30] <tyteen4a03> Kanegasi: well you just said delete it
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#688 [10:30] <Kanegasi> chat line directly above that
#689 [10:30] <Kanegasi> oh... wait
#690 [10:30] <tyteen4a03> Kanegasi: :P
#691 [10:30] <Kanegasi> i guess you can get that from what i said -_-
#692 [10:31] <tyteen4a03> Kanegasi: but yes, I am getting more out of the loop
#693 [10:31] <Kanegasi> doesnt matter anyways, he left
#694 [10:31] <Hedge> tyteen4a03, a log from yesterday:
#695 [10:31] <Hedge> 00:48:21 < Oxymoron> So my "problem" is a glitch then?
#696 [10:31] <Hedge> 00:48:44 < techno145> yep, an anomaly, a bug
#697 [10:31] <Hedge> So not an offical helper
#698 [10:32] <tyteen4a03> Hedge: Oh good
#699 [10:32] <TheNoodle> oh god what did techno do D:
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#703 [10:38] <Alpaone> I cant login into Minecraft I keep getting the error "Too many failed logins"..
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#706 [10:42] <tyteen4a03> Alpaone: Go to the .minecraft folder and delete the lastlogin file
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#714 [11:18] <MinecraftAddict> how do i load minecraft 1.3 texture packs?
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#726 [11:46] <Lolzler> guys i am keep getting java error that couldnt create the java virtual machine any ideas?
#727 [11:47] <Lolzler> also i am getting a error even in broswer version
#728 [11:48] <Lolzler> anyone ?please?
#729 [11:49] <FLHerne> Lolzler: Which OS/ Java version?
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#733 [11:50] <Lolzler> java 7
#734 [11:50] <Lolzler> the latest version
#735 [11:50] <FLHerne> Lolzler: Windows?
#736 [11:50] <Lolzler> i think it must be something with the settings but i dont know ..windows 7
#737 [11:51] <FLHerne> Mmm. Can't guarantee that I can help, not a Windows user
#738 [11:51] * Smanly|Sleep is now known as Smanly
#739 [11:51] <FLHerne> ?? error
#740 [11:51] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#741 [11:51] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#742 [11:52] <FLHerne> If you stick the (exact) error in Pastebin, it might help someone :-)
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#744 [11:53] <Lolzler> Java Virtual machine launcher -Error:Could not create the java virtual machine -Error: A fatal exception has occured:progrram will exist that is the exact error
#745 [11:53] <bab> is it still possible to make zoomed out versions of a map?
#746 [11:53] <Smanly> Lolzler: How much RAM do you have?
#747 [11:54] <Lolzler> 2GB ram
#748 [11:54] <Lolzler> i use to play minecraft smoothly and normaly before a 1-2weeks
#749 [11:54] <Lolzler> actiualy i have the game about a month and i was fine with it since now
#750 [11:54] <Smanly> Lolzler: Are you trying to run other ram intensive programs and trying to launch MC?
#751 [11:55] <Lolzler> erm no sometimes i am having skype but no
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#753 [11:55] <Smanly> Well... close all other programs and then try opening MC.
#754 [11:55] <Lutzee> Smanly: get a dxdiag report
#755 [11:55] <Smanly> Eh
#756 [11:55] <Smanly> Hokay
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#758 [11:56] <Lolzler> let me try i still believe isnt the ram is something with the setting or something like that thx for the intresting anyway
#759 [11:56] <FLHerne> ?? win/dxdiag
#760 [11:56] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#761 [11:56] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#763 [11:56] <Smanly> brb
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#765 [11:59] <bab> is it still possible to make zoomed out versions of a map?
#766 [12:00] <Smanly> bab: What do you mean?
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#768 [12:00] <Lolzler> yep guys absolut nothing its not the ram
#769 [12:00] <Smanly> ??>> Lolzler win/dxdiag
#770 [12:01] <Smanly> Do that, Lolzler.
#771 [12:01] <Lolzler> ok give me a sec
#772 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> Lolzler: If you refuse to trust the helpers, then we cannot assist you
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#774 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> on a side note to myself, Server Load Average != SAA
#775 [12:03] <Lolzler> i am not refusing to trust u guys i am just trying to find out what win +R keys are xD
#776 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> ??> Lolzler win/key
#777 [12:03] <VoxelHead> Lolzler: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#778 [12:04] <Lolzler> ah right i starting remeber
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#781 [12:07] <Lolzler> http://pastebin.com/vn4WMU7x ok it took me a bit time but i did it :P
#782 [12:07] <bab> is it possible to make zoomed out versions of a map?
#783 [12:08] <Smanly> bab: What do you mean?
#784 [12:08] <Lolzler> isnt suspicious that i am having error even in the broswer version?
#785 [12:09] <Smanly> Erm... no?
#786 [12:09] <Smanly> They both use the same files.
#787 [12:09] <bab> i just read on the wiki that you should be able to take a map and make it bigger
#788 [12:09] <Smanly> bab: In 1.4?
#789 [12:09] <bab> by placing eight papers around it
#790 [12:09] <Lolzler> why no?it couldnt be a wrong fron java a broken setting or something?
#791 [12:10] <bab> dno, it just show it under the crafting tab
#792 [12:10] <Smanly> bab: Give me a link to this, please/
#793 [12:10] <bab> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Map_%28item%29
#794 [12:10] <Smanly> lol
#795 [12:10] <Smanly> Future
#796 [12:10] <Smanly> Beginning in Snapshot 12w34a, crafting a map creates an empty map.
#797 [12:10] <Morrolan> bab - "Beginning in Snapshot 12w34a" ins the keyword, here.
#798 [12:10] <Smanly> Under that section?
#799 [12:11] <Morrolan> is*
#800 [12:11] <bab> what does that mean?
#801 [12:11] <bab> and yeah
#802 [12:11] <Smanly> ...
#803 [12:11] <Morrolan> Snapshos 12w34a is newer than the current stable version, 1.3
#804 [12:11] <Morrolan> Snapshot*
#805 [12:11] <bab> ah ok
#806 [12:11] <Smanly> Its a fature thats not in the official game, yet.
#807 [12:11] <Smanly> Feature*
#808 [12:12] <bab> i see, thanks
#809 [12:12] <Smanly> Lolzler: There should be more to the error you are getting.
#810 [12:13] <Smanly> Where do you see that error, btw?
#811 [12:13] <Smanly> Lutzee: Is there something i'm not looking for in the dxdiag? It isn't really telling me much.
#812 [12:14] <Lolzler> well i am lanchuing minecraft .exe and it pops up in a small window
#813 [12:14] <Lutzee> He only has 2gb of ram, tell him to assign less :P
#814 [12:14] <Smanly> Well, it supposededly worked before.
#815 [12:15] <Smanly> Ok, well. We can try that. But I bet if you restarted you computer it would work again.
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#817 [12:15] <Lolzler> wait a second i got the same error but now i can login
#818 [12:15] <Lolzler> minecraft is getting update atm
#819 [12:16] <Smanly> O.o
#820 [12:16] <Lolzler> ok back to the same error:/
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#823 [12:18] <Smanly> Lolzler: Have you restarted you PC recently?
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#825 [12:18] <Lolzler> yep when u said i should close the other programs i just restarted it
#826 [12:19] <Smanly> Oh, ok.
#827 [12:19] <Smanly> Lets try launching MC with less ram.
#828 [12:20] <Smanly> ??> Lolzler win/client/moreram
#829 [12:20] <VoxelHead> Lolzler: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#830 [12:20] <VoxelHead> Lolzler: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
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#832 [12:21] <Smanly> Lolzler: But you will need to edit that file once you have downloaded it.
#833 [12:22] <Lolzler> edit it as what
#834 [12:23] <Smanly> Open it with notepad and replace -Xmx1500M with -Xmx256M
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#838 [12:28] <Lolzler> which file i should edit the downloaded file the last login on the options?:S i am confused
#839 [12:29] <Lolzler> there is a notebook file that is saying the error
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#841 [12:31] <Smanly> Lolzler: The file you just downloaded.
#842 [12:31] <Smanly> If this is a bit confusing, there is an easier alternative.
#843 [12:31] <Lolzler> is an executable file there is no showable option to edit it
#844 [12:32] <Smanly> did you open it with notepad?
#845 [12:32] <Smanly> You may have to rename it to a .txt rather than a .bat
#846 [12:32] <kitty8979> I just bought minecraft and I am a premium member. I don't want to play, I bought it for my sons, but they cannot log
#847 [12:33] <Morrolan> right click -> edit
#848 [12:33] <Lolzler> aha ok that sounds what i should
#849 [12:33] <Morrolan> or right click -> open with -> desired text editor
#850 [12:33] <Lutzee> kitty8979: what error are you/they getting when you try to log in?
#851 [12:33] <Lolzler> Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine. Error: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit. launcher isnt starting
#852 [12:34] <kitty8979> not a premium member
#853 [12:34] <Smanly> Lolzler: This is after editing the file and running it?
#854 [12:34] <kitty8979> I can login no problem
#855 [12:35] <Smanly> kitty8979: How long ago did you buy the account?
#856 [12:35] <Lolzler> no before i am gonna copy the edit now give me a sec
#857 [12:35] <Lolzler> ok i edited it
#858 [12:35] <Smanly> And that doesn't look like an issue with ram.
#859 [12:35] <Smanly> Now run it.
#860 [12:36] <Lutzee> kitty8979: when you purchase premium on an account it only accepts for that account, if your sons are using different logins those accounts each have to be paid for
#861 [12:36] <kitty8979> just now, 20 minutes ago. I can login and can play, but they want to on their own accts and I want them to do this too
#862 [12:36] <Lolzler> it just generated an error log and when i am trying to execute minecraft i am getting the same error
#863 [12:36] <kitty8979> so I neen
#864 [12:36] <Smanly> kitty8979: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#865 [12:37] <Lutzee> kitty8979: you bought the gam on all three accounts right?
#866 [12:37] <Lutzee> or however many accounts there are
#867 [12:37] <kitty8979> so I need to buy 2 more accts? can I transfer mine to one of them and then buy a second one?
#868 [12:37] <yerg> No.
#869 [12:38] <Smanly> They can use your account, sure. But you cant transfer premiumn status, no.
#870 [12:39] <kitty8979> I wish minecraft would n
#871 [12:41] <kitty8979> I wish the website was more clear about this. I searched help topics before making the purchase and indicated I can buy it and multiple logins can be used. now I have to make 2 more purchases if I want them to play
#872 [12:42] <Lutzee> kitty8979: can you point us to where it says this?
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#875 [12:43] <kitty8979> yes, just one moment
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#877 [12:43] <Lolzler> @echo off java-Xmx256M-cp minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 2> errorlog.txt that exact the file when i editing is saying is all right?
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#879 [12:44] <Lutzee> Lolzler: @echo off java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 2> errorlog.txt
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#881 [12:47] <kitty8979> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/731321. it says you can have multiple accounts, but it doesn't say premium accounts, which would indicate multiple purchases.
#882 [12:50] <Lutzee> Hmm okay i see,
#883 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/731321-multiple-accounts-on-one-computer
#884 [12:50] <Lutzee> GreyVulpine: same article.
#885 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> If you have multiple people who want to play on the same computer, and world save separation is not an issue, you can play Minecraft from a single account. If you would like the world files separate, or would like to be known by a different username while on multiplayer servers, you may want to consider purchasing a second Minecraft account.
#886 [12:51] <kitty8979> so I created my account to have my credit card info thinking they will have their own accounts to login and play.
#887 [12:52] <Lolzler> Java Plug-in 10.7.2.11 Using JRE version 1.7.0_07-b11 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM User home directory = C:\Users\User ---------------------------------------------------- c: clear console window f: finalize objects on finalization queue g: garbage collect h: display this help message l: dump classloader list m: print memory usage o: trigger logging q: hide console r: reload policy configuration s: dump system and
#888 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Unfortuately, that is not the case.
#889 [12:52] <Lutzee> Lolzler: pastebin.com for large pastes
#890 [12:53] <kitty8979> I'm not concerned about multiple
#891 [12:53] <Lolzler> sure srry.
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#893 [12:53] <frogonia> hello
#894 [12:53] <Lolzler> http://pastebin.com/kHqe9rZg
#895 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> For each unique account name, premium must be purchased before they can be played online
#896 [12:54] <kitty8979> I'm not concerned about multiplayer, just them playing their own game.
#897 [12:54] <frogonia> i was wondering there isnt a fire fox 64 bit version
#898 [12:54] <Lolzler> do u think if i format my pc will resolve the problem?
#899 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> sure there is
#900 [12:54] <frogonia> so how do i run minecraft in 64 bit
#901 [12:54] <frogonia> ?
#902 [12:55] <Calinou> looks like there are unofficial forks of FF for 64 bit
#903 [12:55] <Calinou> most of them are outdated
#904 [12:55] <Calinou> frogonia: or just play the downloaded version...
#905 [12:55] <frogonia> i hear that is really dificult to use
#906 [12:55] <Calinou> 32 bit stuff works with 64 bit, anyway
#907 [12:55] <Calinou> it isn't. at all.
#908 [12:55] <Calinou> download and run the .jar or .exe
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#910 [12:56] <Calinou> if you can't double-click something, it is too complicated, indeed.
#911 [12:56] <frogonia> and there arnt many 64 bit plugins for it
#912 [12:56] <Calinou> what do you mean?
#913 [12:56] <Calinou> mods work indepentently of the architecture
#914 [12:56] <frogonia> so even though my browser is 32 i can run java 64 bit
#915 [12:56] <kitty8979> again, I understand now I need to purchase multiple accts, but the website is not clear about this. I search the internet after not being able to get them to login and MANY people have this question.
#916 [12:56] <Calinou> not in your browser
#917 [12:57] <Calinou> kitty8979: you can use commandline parameters to enforce an unauthenticated username
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#919 [12:57] <Calinou> this is perfectly legal, however these "accounts" won't let you play on servers, only singleplayer
#920 [12:58] <frogonia> so even though my browser is 32 i can run java 64 bit
#921 [12:59] <Lolzler> i am gonna try something else thx guys anyway uk see
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#923 [13:00] <frogonia> will it work?
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#925 [13:00] <frogonia> will it be better even though the browser is 32
#926 [13:00] <kitty8979> thanks everyone for your comments and answers! :)
#927 [13:00] <Lutzee> frogonia: is there any reason why you want to play in the browser btw?
#928 [13:00] <Calinou> frogonia: as I said; not in your browser, only if you run java programs from your computer
#929 [13:01] <Redstoneman> i cant update or play minecraft i log in and it wants me to update i try it doesnt load all the way it stopes and even if i dont update it doesnt work help?
#930 [13:01] <frogonia> i dont know im a noob i guess
#931 [13:01] <frogonia> ive only had it a week
#932 [13:01] <Calinou> kitty8979: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1207160/ < see this. you have to put this in a .bat file where minecraft.jar is located (get the .jar here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ) then run it
#933 [13:01] <Redstoneman> iva had for like a year
#934 [13:01] <frogonia> and i load it the way i got it
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#937 [13:02] <Redstoneman> calinou who u talking to
#938 [13:02] <Calinou> to create bat files, you might have to un-hide file extensions by going in "control folders" menu (Windows+R then type in "control folders" without quotes) then uncheck the checkbox "hide known extension file types"
#939 [13:02] <Calinou> Redstoneman: not to you
#940 [13:02] <Lutzee> frogonia: if you go to minecraft.net/download you can download a launcher that will let you play it outside of the browser, if you have java 64bit installed it should use that
#941 [13:02] <Redstoneman> k
#942 [13:02] <Calinou> Redstoneman: if you use AVG, make sure you disable the link scanner module
#943 [13:02] <Redstoneman> i got fix cleaner and avg
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#946 [13:03] <frogonia> ok so if i get java 64 bit will i wind up having problems using firefox
#947 [13:03] <Redstoneman> wait but i shouldnt need to disable avg for the non update option right?
#948 [13:03] <Lutzee> frogonia: no
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#950 [13:04] <Calinou> frogonia: no.
#951 [13:04] <Calinou> you can keep java 32 bit if you want
#952 [13:04] <Calinou> which will be used by FF if you run java programs inside your browser
#953 [13:04] <frogonia> but will i have issues with firefox?
#954 [13:04] <Calinou> Redstoneman: disable AVG's link scanner module, yes
#955 [13:04] <Calinou> frogonia: no
#956 [13:04] <frogonia> with the java 64
#957 [13:05] <Redstoneman> Calinou what do i do after i disable the link scanner
#958 [13:05] <Redstoneman> adn how do i disable it
#959 [13:05] <Calinou> Redstoneman: start the launcher, go in the launcher options then click "force update"
#960 [13:06] <Calinou> disable it by going in AVG's control panel - right click AVG's icon in your notification bar
#961 [13:06] <Redstoneman> i dont see the avg control pannel you mean user interface?
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#963 [13:07] <Redstoneman> ?
#964 [13:07] <Redstoneman> ...
#965 [13:08] <Redstoneman> Calinou
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#967 [13:08] <frogonia> frogonia leaves in frustration
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#969 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> frogonia: nobody cares
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#975 [13:26] <Calinou> :|
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#991 [13:44] <brh11> hey can anyone help me figure out what this error means?
#992 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> brh11: Can you paste the error on pastebin.com?
#993 [13:46] <brh11> ok shure thing
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#996 [13:49] <HeyItsMike> Hey everyone! Is Minecraft not supported on OS X Mountain Lion 10.8?
#997 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> HeyItsMike: It is
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#1000 [13:50] <HeyItsMike> Is there a specific client I have to download then, or do I always ave to manually launch it directly from the JavaApplicationStub from within Terminal.
#1001 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1002 [13:50] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1003 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1004 [13:51] <HeyItsMike> Has Not
#1005 [13:51] <HeyItsMike> Has there been any announcement on the developers adding a certificate so that I do not have to disable security?
#1006 [13:51] <brh11> here it is
#1007 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1008 [13:51] <brh11> http://pastebin.com/Jg7GAY6F
#1009 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> You can thank Apple for that move.
#1010 [13:52] <HeyItsMike> I don't really have a problem with GateKeeper.
#1011 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft will also not be released as an app store app.
#1012 [13:52] <HeyItsMike> There's been ample amount of time for all developers to simply sign their applications.
#1013 [13:52] <Calinou> HeyItsMike: mojang has the money to buy a certificate (to get one from a CA, you have to pay money 99% of the time), indeed, but gatekeeper doesn't really work like that IIRC
#1014 [13:52] <HeyItsMike> I don't expect it to, but all you need to do is sign your application.
#1015 [13:52] <Calinou> it only allows apps from the "app store" [read: vendor lock store]
#1016 [13:53] <HeyItsMike> That's not true. You can still download apps from the internet as long as they are signed.
#1017 [13:53] <HeyItsMike> I tested it when Mountain Lion came out.
#1018 [13:53] <Calinou> not everyone is able to sign - most FOSS can't be signed because of the lack of money
#1019 [13:53] <brh11> just go to settings
#1020 [13:53] <Calinou> anyway, why do you even use mac os? :|
#1021 [13:53] <Calinou> yeah, first thing to do is to disable it
#1022 [13:53] <HeyItsMike> Support mainly.
#1023 [13:54] <HeyItsMike> Maintenance is such a chore.
#1024 [13:54] <HeyItsMike> I switched from PC's back in 2009 and am never going back.
#1025 [13:54] <Calinou> support as in...?
#1026 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Well, you have two options at this point.
#1027 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Either disable gatekeeper, or right click on the app to select "Open"
#1028 [13:54] <HeyItsMike> I'm just going to create a container and have it launch the ApplicationStub for me.
#1029 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> If you do the latter, it will actually run, bypassing gatekeeper entirely. Hey, security! right?
#1030 [13:55] <HeyItsMike> A shell one-liner should do just fine.
#1031 [13:55] <brh11> well i looked over at the log
#1032 [13:55] <HeyItsMike> Calinou: Support as in, I buy a computer thats actually guaranteed and I can go to any local apple store for service and get it fixed in 3 days or less.
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#1034 [13:56] <HeyItsMike> Calinou: The alternative is either sending it out or fixing it myself, both seem like much more of a hassle.
#1035 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Paying twice as much for the same hardware.
#1036 [13:56] <HeyItsMike> Not paying for hardware. Paying for support.
#1037 [13:56] <Calinou> hah, in apple's world, things do break in three days 8)
#1038 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Exactly
#1039 [13:56] <Calinou> why do you pay for support?
#1040 [13:56] <HeyItsMike> I mean, I worked for them for over a year.
#1041 [13:56] <Calinou> O_o
#1042 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> But hey, whatever floats your fancy.
#1043 [13:56] <HeyItsMike> You can knock them all you want.
#1044 [13:56] <HeyItsMike> But I'm not cheap.
#1045 [13:56] <brh11> and idk what this means,Received a TileEntityData packet for a location th
#1046 [13:56] <brh11> at did not have a TileEntity:
#1047 [13:57] <HeyItsMike> If you have the money to spend on fancy things, you can lead a fancy life.
#1048 [13:57] <Calinou> GreyVulpine: heh, this means I can circumvent gatekeeper very easily. wow, there's a lot of security
#1049 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Yup, right click -> open
#1050 [13:57] <Calinou> it's like windows' UAC 8)
#1051 [13:57] <HeyItsMike> But you don't have to knock me for it. Nor will I knock anyone else for not having enough money to afford it.
#1052 [13:57] <HeyItsMike> But I will knock windows firewall for annoying you every time you want to do anything ;)
#1053 [13:57] <HeyItsMike> Or windows update being like a clingy girlfriend.
#1054 [13:57] <Calinou> heard of linux?
#1055 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> That's fine. I've disabled windows firewall
#1056 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> I actually can run a machine that's 4 years old without having apple breathe down my neck for not updating
#1057 [13:58] <HeyItsMike> Anyways, thanks for the advice!
#1058 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#1059 [13:58] <HeyItsMike> Have a good one, everyone!
#1060 [13:58] <HeyItsMike> Have a good one, everyone!
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#1062 [13:59] <Calinou> ASU is spyware
#1063 [13:59] <Calinou> heh, he left
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#1065 [14:00] <brh11> can anyone help?
#1066 [14:01] <tyteen4a03> brh11: Where is the error on pastebin.com?
#1067 [14:01] <Calinou> you have mods, brh11. try uninstalling them by clicking "force update" in launcher options
#1068 [14:01] <brh11> here it is
#1069 [14:01] <Calinou> also your minecraft version is outdated
#1070 [14:01] <brh11> yes i want it on 1.2.5
#1071 [14:01] <brh11> im running a little server for me and a friend
#1072 [14:01] <brh11> and idk why it has the erros
#1073 [14:02] <brh11> sorry spelled wrong,here it is
#1074 [14:02] <brh11> http://pastebin.com/Jg7GAY6F
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#1076 [14:02] <tyteen4a03> brh11: Follow Calinou's methods
#1077 [14:03] <brh11> but i want the mods
#1078 [14:03] <Calinou> ??> brh11 mod
#1079 [14:03] <Calinou> ??> brh11 mods
#1080 [14:03] <VoxelHead> brh11: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1081 [14:03] <VoxelHead> brh11: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1082 [14:03] <Calinou> feel free to search around on the web though
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#1087 [14:12] <coolguy> hi i have a problem
#1088 [14:13] <coolguy> is there anyway to purchase minecraft other than a credit card or paypal im not too fond of my credit card going halfway across the world
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#1090 [14:13] <coolguy> hello?\
#1091 [14:13] <coolguy> anybdy
#1092 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately no
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#1094 [14:14] <coolguy> theres no other way no like mail order thing i cant rmemebr the thing where the back sends the money
#1095 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1096 [14:15] <coolguy> well thats pretty stupid what if i bought like a visa or american express gift card
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#1098 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Gift cards generally don't work as well.
#1099 [14:16] <coolguy> by generally is there any cases they have worked then?
#1100 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> they have anti-fraud measures in place that deny international transactions
#1101 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> you h
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#1103 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> you may get lucky with a gift card if you contact their customer support
#1104 [14:17] <coolguy> whos customer support
#1105 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> ask if they allow online transactions overseas or through paypal
#1106 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> customer support. The number on the back of the card
#1107 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> the one you call in case you need help from the card
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#1109 [14:18] <coolguy> oh ok thanks i know this prbly stupid to ask but will minecraft ever have like a membership card tha you can buy at a store and use the code
#1110 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> It's unlikely
#1111 [14:19] <coolguy> k well thanks for your time then
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#1114 [14:21] <coolguy> oh wait i just noticed something what if i got a visa travelers gift card it says it work overseas
#1115 [14:21] <rymate1234> Hey
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#1117 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> coolguy - that's something you'll need to ask customer support on the card
#1118 [14:26] <coolguy> ok thanks again
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#1120 [14:30] <HandsOfGod> I put up a TF craft server and we have been punching leaves for about an hour and have yet to get sticks. any ideas what im doing wrong
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#1126 [14:53] <crazilon> Hi - I have a bukkit server, and I would like a new "world-nether" file where I spawn in an open nether. Where can I get one?
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#1128 [14:55] <yerg> Did you want to reset your current nether world, or generate a new one alongside?
#1129 [14:55] <crazilon> I just want to reset my nether to where I spawn in the open
#1130 [14:55] <yerg> To do the former, you'll need to move or delete the appropriate world folder
#1131 [14:55] <crazilon> ok
#1132 [14:56] <crazilon> Will it generate the Nether according to my seed?
#1133 [14:56] <yerg> Yes
#1134 [14:56] <crazilon> OOh
#1135 [14:57] <crazilon> If I delete the "world_nether" file then the same nether will appear since I have the same seed, and I don't want to change the seed since there is many ungenerated land
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#1137 [14:57] <crazilon> All I'm looking for is if someone has a world_ether file to send it to me
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#1146 [15:10] <tartty> im trying to download minecraft that i bought on mac but cant download it as it ses its damaged
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#1148 [15:11] <tartty> any help ???
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#1150 [15:12] <tartty> need help cant download mincraft on to mac
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#1153 [15:16] <DeEvo> Where can you get a working modloader for v 1.2.5? Seems most you find out there are broken/bogus
#1154 [15:17] <DeEvo> Oops, guess I should have read the topic better. Sorry :-)
#1155 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> try asking in #risucraft
#1156 [15:18] <DeEvo> Will do. Thanks.
#1157 [15:18] <DeEvo> Will do. Thanks.
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#1180 [16:09] <frederik298> hello?
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#1182 [16:09] <frederik298> can someone help me?
#1183 [16:10] <frederik298> I have bought a gift code, but come's the code on a email?
#1184 [16:10] <chachi> question - how do I update my video card to play the game?? I paid the money but it tells me to update video card to play???
#1185 [16:11] <frederik298> Can someone help me?
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#1187 [16:12] <frederik298> i bought a gift code for a friend, but what is the code, send mojang a email with code?
#1188 [16:13] <FLHerne> frederik298: Should come with an email
#1189 [16:13] <frederik298> Ok, Thnx
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#1196 [16:39] <Lolzler> today i had a problem with java and getting a error and i fixed installing a old java version some people said that was my low Ram but no just sayign if u guys had the same problem this worked for me
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#1199 [16:49] <kmirkil> how can I make a multiplayer server without port forwarding
#1200 [16:50] <NinjaKirby> Huh, ditch your Router and use a USB ADSL Modem, I suppose
#1201 [16:50] <kmirkil> what is an adsl?
#1202 [16:50] <NinjaKirby> Basically your broadband telephone line
#1203 [16:50] <NinjaKirby> Asynchronous Digital Subscriber Line if you really want to know.
#1204 [16:51] <kmirkil> well is port forwarding safe?
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#1206 [16:51] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, I guess so, there's many situations that require it
#1207 [16:52] <kmirkil> alright, and is making a minecraft server for online play safe?
#1208 [16:52] <NinjaKirby> I haven't heard anyone ever say in here they were compromised from running a Minecraft server.
#1209 [16:53] <kmirkil> alrigth thank you
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#1211 [16:53] <NinjaKirby> It's an interesting question really, you are basically making a tiny... hole... Bye -_-
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#1213 [16:54] <NinjaKirby> I suppose if the Port Forward can only bring you to some seemingly random port, which interfaces with only a game, it's not exactly a great attack vector? There has to be some hefty safety blocks built-in to prevent simple exploitation.
#1214 [16:56] <NinjaKirby> Unless you configured your FTP under like, 21 to 21, with Guest access enabled, perhaps then you could screw yourself over.
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#1224 [17:17] <Oxymoron> I seem to be in a weird situation. I tried following the directions for playing the demo, but it doesn't work. The website says that there should be a "Play demo" button in the launcher for non premium users. I didn't find one and instead say a "Play offline" button. Pressing that allowed me to play Minecraft 1.2.5. (The latest being 1.3 at the time) Yesterday it seemed to update itself to 1.3.2. Thing is, I never payed to go premium
#1225 [17:18] <Oxymoron> And now since the update it's been acting glitchy.
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#1227 [17:19] <nander> hi
#1228 [17:19] <nander> I've got a big problem, minecraft doesn't register my keystrokes
#1229 [17:19] <nander> system: debian testing with amd drivers and latest java6 JDK (NOT java7, I need java6 for my study)
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#1231 [17:20] <Oxymoron> It seems that there aren't as many people online here as usual.
#1232 [17:21] <FLHerne> Oxymoron: Were you here earlier?
#1233 [17:21] <KomA> Heyho.. i need some help with my Password Change in Minecraft. Cant change the Password on the Mojang website.. (didnt find a button or something like this)
#1234 [17:21] <FLHerne> Or did two people with the same weird problem turn up on the same day? :o
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#1236 [17:22] <Oxymoron> Yeah, I'm just trying to get more opinions on my situation.
#1237 [17:22] <KomA> #minecrafthelp
#1238 [17:22] <FLHerne> KomA: Profile button on the top bar ;-)
#1239 [17:23] <KomA> Where? i just see "My Account" and than?
#1240 [17:23] <KomA> I cant login on Minecraft.net but in account.mojang.com
#1241 [17:23] <Oxymoron> Because it seems that no one knows about why the launcher does this.
#1242 [17:24] <FLHerne> KomA: Have you forgotten your existing one, or are you just changing it?
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#1244 [17:24] <ThomQ> hi all!
#1245 [17:24] <FLHerne> nander: Not sure what you mean about the Java, could you clarify?
#1246 [17:25] <ThomQ> I got a problem.. Im trying to make a book: http://minecraft.ign.com/wiki/Book, but it doesnt work.. Im putting the 3 pieces of paper on the 2, 5 & 7 square of the crafting table, but the book doesn't appear
#1247 [17:25] <FLHerne> Oxymoron: Did you try deleting the 'lastlogin' file in your .minecraft folder?
#1248 [17:25] <Lutzee> ThomQ: you need lether
#1249 [17:25] <Lutzee> leather*
#1250 [17:25] <Lutzee> leather*
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#1252 [17:25] <Oxymoron> I couldn't find that file.
#1253 [17:25] <nander> FLHerne - I just installed minecraft and when starting it I can login, but when trying to type a world name it doesn' t register keystrokes and it doesn' t register any keystrokes ingame either
#1254 [17:26] <nander> I have to shut it down by killing it from the OS
#1255 [17:26] <nander> The graphics run fine and so does the mouse
#1256 [17:26] <nander> But the keyboard doesn' t work
#1257 [17:26] <FLHerne> nander: Odd. Not had that problem (also a Linux user :-) )
#1258 [17:26] <FLHerne> Which version of Java 6? OJDK or Sun?
#1259 [17:26] <nander> Sun java6
#1260 [17:26] <nander> As required by my computer science classes..
#1261 [17:26] <FLHerne> Odd, I have that and it works :-)
#1262 [17:26] <Lutzee> ThomQ: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Book
#1263 [17:27] <FLHerne> Did you try 7?
#1264 [17:27] <Lutzee> The offcial wiki is minecraftwiki.net ThomQ
#1265 [17:27] <FLHerne> Linux lets you have multiple java versions installed, remember ;-)
#1266 [17:27] <KomA> I forgot my current password..
#1267 [17:27] <KomA> Thats the problem FLHerne
#1268 [17:27] <ThomQ> Herne: Ok, so, its different then the ign wiki? :D thanks
#1269 [17:27] <nander> I'll just do JRE so I don't fubar it badly ;
#1270 [17:28] <ThomQ> I'm deleting that IGN bookmark :P
#1271 [17:28] <FLHerne> Koma: http://www.minecraft.net/login and click on the 'Forgot username?' button?
#1272 [17:28] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Wrong person :P
#1273 [17:28] <Lutzee> KomA: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1274 [17:28] <KomA> They send me to the Mojang website..
#1275 [17:29] <FLHerne> Whoops, 'forgot password' even :P
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#1277 [17:29] <KomA> And i didint forgot my name
#1278 [17:29] <KomA> just the password...
#1279 [17:29] <Oxymoron> I just searched the minecraft folder. Can't find "lastlogin".
#1280 [17:29] <KomA> No such user: XxKomAxX
#1281 [17:29] <KomA> LoL
#1282 [17:29] <FLHerne> KomA: Sorry, I mistyped that. Lutzee's link is the direct one
#1283 [17:29] <KomA> Wait a second
#1284 [17:29] <KomA> They say there isnt any account with this name?!
#1285 [17:30] <Lutzee> !paid XxKomAxX
#1286 [17:30] <KomA> But on the Mojang website: XxKomAxX
#1287 [17:30] <Lutzee> KomA: put your email in there
#1288 [17:30] <KomA> Where here? in this puplic chat?
#1289 [17:30] <Lutzee> KomA: no the reset password page
#1290 [17:30] <Lutzee> KomA: if you have migrated your account to a mojang account you now have to use your email address to log into the game
#1291 [17:31] <KomA> If i put my email in the Password rese: User not found
#1292 [17:31] <FLHerne> Oxymoron: should be in ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft , I think
#1293 [17:31] <KomA> Ah
#1294 [17:31] <KomA> ok i try it Lutzee
#1295 [17:31] <KomA> Wait a second
#1296 [17:31] <KomA> It works!
#1297 [17:31] <KomA> Oh yes... i love you ^^
#1298 [17:31] <KomA> Thank you very much =)
#1299 [17:32] <Oxymoron> Yeah. I was there. Didn't see the file.
#1300 [17:32] <nander> java7 has the same problem
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#1302 [17:32] <nander> Maybe it's XFCE-related..
#1303 [17:32] <KomA> OK thank you Lutzee and FLHerne =) Good job :>
#1304 [17:32] <FLHerne> nander: Sorry, I don;t have that. KDE here :-)
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#1306 [17:33] <FLHerne> nander: Tried switching to a different virtual terminal and back?
#1307 [17:33] <Lutzee> ??> Oxymoron demo
#1308 [17:33] <VoxelHead> Oxymoron: (demo) You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#1309 [17:33] <FLHerne> That helped some similar glitches I had (with another game) with my last video card
#1310 [17:35] <nander> Could it be lwgl-related?
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#1312 [17:35] <Lutzee> nander: maybe
#1313 [17:35] <nander> lwgl does do input
#1314 [17:35] <nander> ??
#1315 [17:35] <Lutzee> Not sure on that bit :p
#1316 [17:35] <Oxymoron> I've been hearing about the problems with the launcher for a long time.
#1317 [17:36] <Oxymoron> Still no "Play demo" button that was supposed to be there.
#1318 [17:36] <Lutzee> Oxymoron: redownload the launcher, but it wont help you
#1319 [17:37] <Lutzee> The demo in the launcher will not work
#1320 [17:37] <Oxymoron> I did just that. It didn't help. My problem isn't having 1.3.2. It's just all the glitches that apparenty came with the update.
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#1322 [17:39] <nander> it seems minecraft is not lwgl 2.8.4 compatible?
#1323 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't be surprised
#1324 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Try 2.8.3 instead
#1325 [17:40] <Lutzee> Depends... i ran with 2.8.4 on ubuntu
#1326 [17:41] <Lutzee> It's a bit picky :p
#1327 [17:41] <nander> This is really strange by the way, minecraft isn' t that bloody complicated, why doesn' t it work?
#1328 [17:41] <Lutzee> nander: it makes up for it with poor code :p
#1329 [17:41] <undead> How do I get internet on my desktop? I need something long range.
#1330 [17:41] <ThomQ> I need some plants to grow instantly.. What is the item Im looking for?
#1331 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> bone meal
#1332 [17:41] <nander> undead - a long cable
#1333 [17:42] <undead> Besides that
#1334 [17:42] <Lutzee> ThomQ: put a bone into the crafting grid :p
#1335 [17:42] <undead> i need some thing wireless
#1336 [17:42] <ThomQ> i Got some bone meal, but when I right click it on the plants, nothing happens
#1337 [17:42] <nander> Where do I get official support?
#1338 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> What are you right clicking on?
#1339 [17:42] <Lutzee> undead: then a wifi card and wireless router
#1340 [17:42] <ThomQ> Sugar Cane
#1341 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> nander - help.mojang.com
#1342 [17:42] <undead> What kind of plants Thomq ?
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#1344 [17:42] <Lutzee> sugar cane does not work like that
#1345 [17:42] <ThomQ> :(
#1346 [17:42] <undead> You cannot use bone meal on sugar cane
#1347 [17:43] <undead> But you can use it on trees :D
#1348 [17:43] <ThomQ> and on wheat?
#1349 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1350 [17:43] <undead> Yup
#1351 [17:43] <undead> and pumpkins and melons
#1352 [17:43] <ThomQ> and soon on carrots and potatos :D
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#1354 [17:44] <ThomQ> ow another question: We found a sadle. Do I have to feed an animal before putting the saddle on it?
#1355 [17:44] <nander> I meant where do I get contact with an actual person working at mojang responsible for having their products work
#1356 [17:44] <nander> At the moment it doesn' t
#1357 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> nander - There are none.
#1358 [17:44] <nander> And it should work
#1359 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> nander - You can try help.mojang.com, but their support backlog is over 3 months.
#1360 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> And is primarily for account suppor.
#1361 [17:45] <sam> how do you use the gamemode
#1362 [17:45] <nander> of course, why bother actually giving people the product they paid for
#1363 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1364 [17:45] <FLHerne> nander: Getting anything to work entirely reliably on Linux is tricky :P
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#1366 [17:46] <FLHerne> Too many possible version/combinations/standards ;-)
#1367 [17:46] <ThomQ> nander: Its quite common for PC games to not work. Too much different setups to make software work 100% of the times out of the box
#1368 [17:46] <undead> How do I put a PCI card in my desktop
#1369 [17:47] <FLHerne> undead: Take the side off, find an empty PCI slot, put the card in it, put the side back on :P
#1370 [17:47] <FLHerne> Turning the computer off first helps ;-)
#1371 [17:48] <FLHerne> Oh, and you need one standard-sized screw to hold the card in
#1372 [17:48] <undead> Is there for sure an empty PCI slot ?
#1373 [17:48] <FLHerne> undead: Nope.
#1374 [17:48] <undead> How can I check ?
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#1376 [17:48] <FLHerne> undead: Take the side off, look to see if there's an empty PCI slot, put the side on again :P
#1377 [17:49] <undead> how do i take it off and what side
#1378 [17:49] <FLHerne> Are you sure you're in the right channel, by the way? ;-)
#1379 [17:50] <FLHerne> undead: I don't have magic 'seeing-exactly-what-type-of-case-you-have-through-IRC-goggles' :P
#1380 [17:50] <Dr_Eggman7> I need help. I keep recieving a fatal error message for minecraft that states that the computer cannot launch the virtual machine. What do I do?
#1381 [17:50] <FLHerne> Dr_Eggman7: Operating system? Java version? How much RAM do you have?
#1382 [17:51] <nander> thomq - most companies at least have some Indian guy available for chat ;)
#1383 [17:51] <nander> IT might be caused by me having a 64-bit-compatible system, but running a 32bit OS
#1384 [17:51] <nander> But it seems it's just a weird bug
#1385 [17:51] <FLHerne> nander: Do you have an NVIDIA card?
#1386 [17:52] <nander> I'll download a previous version from thepiratebay ;)
#1387 [17:52] <undead> To find out RAM and operating system Dr_Eggman7 type 'system' into the start
#1388 [17:52] <nander> AMD firepro
#1389 [17:52] <nander> It did work before
#1390 [17:52] <FLHerne> Odd
#1391 [17:52] <nander> (not on this exact setup, but it did work on this hardware)
#1392 [17:52] <nander> That was a few minecraft versions ago..
#1393 [17:52] <FLHerne> I had some similar problems with AssaultCube, but they went away when I switched to an AMD one :P
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#1397 [17:58] <nander> We'll get back to you as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience!
#1398 [17:58] <nander> lol trololol
#1399 [17:58] <nander> I gave them a week in my email (I put an ultimatum in it ;))
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#1401 [18:00] <Lutzee> nander: if you want previous versions of minecraft theres always mcnostalgia
#1402 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1403 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> "Mojang customer support operates Monday through Friday, and has agents in both the US and Sweden. We are currently working on emails from July 28, 2012. We sincerely apologize for the delay. Once the backlog is dealt with, our goal is to be answering emails in 1-2 business days."
#1404 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Good luck on getting an answer within a week
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#1407 [18:01] <sprog> How do I delete my account?
#1408 [18:02] <Lutzee> sprog: that isn't possible
#1409 [18:02] <nander> greyvulpine - everyone has that line in their files ;)
#1410 [18:02] <Dr_Eggman7> I have a windows xp professional, total physical memory 3GB, total virtual memory 2GB, availiable virtual memory 1.95GB, and I am still lokking for Java.
#1411 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> They'll read it in december, see that you've put an ultimatum on it, and promptly delete it, moving onto email #35,412 of last month
#1412 [18:02] <FLHerne> sprog: Why do you want to? :P
#1413 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Dr_Eggman7 - http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u35-downloads-1836473.html
#1414 [18:03] <FLHerne> It doesn't have personal details, and no-one else knows if you have it or not ;-)
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#1416 [18:03] <Dr_Eggman7> Thank You. Have a great day! ;-)
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#1419 [18:05] <Guest63861> poke poke?
#1420 [18:05] <FLHerne> Guest63861: Pokepokepoke?
#1421 [18:05] <sprog> I want to buy an account but I made one in the early beta so it won't let me use my e-mail account. I want to use a different username than the one I made in the beta but it doesn't let me do anything like changing my e-mail because I am not premium...
#1422 [18:07] <sprog> Even if I buy an account with another e-mail it wouldn't let me switch to my main one because the system would say the e-mail account was taken
#1423 [18:07] <Guest63861> any one know if there is a way to recover an account that the email nolonger exsist?
#1424 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1425 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> for sprog and Guest63861.
#1426 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> That's the support ticket form for Mojang's account support. be aware that their support backlog is over 3 months.
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#1428 [18:12] <sprog> Thanks
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#1430 [18:12] <Lutzee> sprog: who is your email provider btw? i know theres a system with Gmail that will auto forward emails to a main account just by specifying an email in a certain way
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#1433 [18:14] <NinjaKirby> lol, Sporg is having trouble, only made amusing by the strange names
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#1435 [18:15] <NinjaKirby> I still think that the DeceptiKHAAAAN name the other day was the best for a while.
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#1438 [18:21] <ThomQ> pffff.. ANother 8 hours today.. This is getting out of hand :D
#1439 [18:21] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Minecraft can do that :P
#1440 [18:22] <FLHerne> Built a giant obsidian-and-lava mountain fortress yet? :P
#1441 [18:22] <FLHerne> Everyone needs a giant obsidian-and-lava mountain fortress... :D
#1442 [18:22] <ThomQ> haha no. But our castle is growing though
#1443 [18:22] <ThomQ> for some reason a buddy of mine thought it would be a good idea to have 70 cows, in a little pen. We enjoyed slaughtering them in 10 seconds though :P
#1444 [18:23] <ThomQ> We find very little obsidian :(
#1445 [18:23] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Make some, then :P
#1446 [18:23] <ThomQ> I just need some buckets of water / lava, right?
#1447 [18:23] <Lutzee> ThomQ: pouring water over the top of lava makes obsidian
#1448 [18:24] <FLHerne> Get many buckets of water, pop over to the Nether, dump them on a big pool of lava :P
#1449 [18:24] <ThomQ> we got a lava waterfall next to our castle (from a mountain into a lake) is that a neverending supply of lava?
#1450 [18:24] <Lutzee> ThomQ: unfortunatly not
#1451 [18:25] <Lutzee> It only works on lava source blocks
#1452 [18:25] <FLHerne> ThomQ: No. I'm not sure never-ending lava even exists any more
#1453 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't
#1454 [18:25] <ThomQ> hmm.. We'll just keep that one for esthetics :P We got some major lava pools in our mine
#1455 [18:25] <ThomQ> got all our minecarts going, one to the mine, one to the farms, and all back to the centre of the castle
#1456 [18:26] <ThomQ> now, its time to eat.. I forgot dinner :P
#1457 [18:26] <ThomQ> its 12:30 here :D Goodnight gentlemen!
#1458 [18:26] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Have you built a massive dispenser array over your entrance? :D
#1459 [18:27] <FLHerne> Then you can hail hundreds of arrows at approaching enemies ;-)
#1460 [18:27] <FLHerne> Bye :-)
#1461 [18:27] <ThomQ> haha no not yet. Ill check in tomorrow for some over the top suggestions :D
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#1463 [18:27] * Lutzee prefers tesla coils
#1463 [18:28] <FLHerne> Lutzee: Hails of arrows are cooler :-)
#1464 [18:28] <FLHerne> Also, didn't he stop using Tekkit?
#1465 [18:28] <Lutzee> yeah he did
#1466 [18:28] <Lutzee> But arrows aren't infinite :p
#1467 [18:28] <FLHerne> No Tesla coils then :P
#1468 [18:29] <FLHerne> Lutzee: No, but 20+ dispensers firing in parallel at full speed is more awesome :P
#1469 [18:29] <FLHerne> Anyway, if you can have Tesla coils then you can have BC pipes :P
#1470 [18:29] * NinjaKirby feels the urge to RA95 again
#1470 [18:30] <FLHerne> And automated crafting and EE, so you can make unlimited arrows pretty easily :-)
#1471 [18:30] <Lutzee> EE is OP :p
#1472 [18:31] <FLHerne> I know :P
#1473 [18:31] <Lutzee> I could however use UU matter :p
#1474 [18:31] <FLHerne> Automated crafting, qurries and mob farms, then. Does the same :P
#1475 [18:31] <FLHerne> Or yes, UU-matter would work too :P
#1476 [18:32] <Lutzee> Quarries aren't efficient, i use redpower 2 tunnel boring machines ;)
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#1478 [18:34] <Wolf_22> I want to have more control over my multilayer server (i.e. - create roles, non-buildable areas, etc.) I'd also like to disable cheats. What's a good server administration app to use for this?
#1479 [18:34] <NinjaKirby> Wow, has anyone noticed the swim strafing bug?
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#1481 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Wolf_22 - See Bukkit
#1482 [18:35] <Wolf_22> Grey Vulpine: I thought someone would say something about that... Heard a lot about it.
#1483 [18:36] <NinjaKirby> Okay, never mind, the bug exists out of water as well
#1484 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit is a heavily modified version of the server binary, which you can then add plugins and other add-ons to.
#1485 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Worldguard is a plugin which can do area protection, based on groups and permissions
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#1487 [18:37] <undead> Who was the person helping me with PCI cards ?
#1488 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> There's probably a half dozen different permission plugins, including permissionsEX, essentials, permissionsbukkit, etc
#1489 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> All of which can do 'roles' or assign different building permissions to different users/gruops
#1490 [18:38] <FLHerne> undead: Me :P
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#1493 [18:40] <Wolf_22> Grey Vulpine: So is CraftBukkit the same thing? Also, how do you install it?
#1494 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Please read: http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server
#1495 [18:42] <Wolf_22> Grey Vulpine: Ah, okay. Thanks! :)
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#1511 [19:41] <pildid> hello... can i install minecraft on my mac?
#1512 [19:42] <Lutzee> pildid: yes you can, is it reporting that it is damaged?
#1513 [19:42] <pildid> im trying to find the game for my mac but i only find downloads for pc
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#1515 [19:43] <pildid> do you know where i can find the download for mac?
#1516 [19:43] <Epsilon_> I cant
#1517 [19:43] <Epsilon_> I bought my account but it didnt say I bought it
#1518 [19:43] <Lutzee> pildid: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip
#1519 [19:43] <Epsilon_> it gave me a reciept
#1520 [19:44] <Lutzee> Epsilon_: contact your bank and make sure that the payment has gone through successfully
#1521 [19:44] <pildid> ok thank you ill try that
#1522 [19:44] <Lutzee> They have probably blocked it on grounds of fraud protection
#1523 [19:44] <Epsilon_> I used paypal
#1524 [19:44] <Lutzee> Then check paypal
#1525 [19:45] <Epsilon_> Alright.
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#1527 [19:51] <Epsilon_> It went through successfuly....
#1528 [19:51] <Epsilon_> I had a account in the past.
#1529 [19:51] <Epsilon_> Maybe thats why?
#1530 [19:51] <Epsilon_> I have my reciept
#1531 [19:51] <Lutzee> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1532 [19:52] <Lutzee> Epsilon_: you should have gotten an email from mojang if they have recieved payment
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#1538 [20:20] <Lukario45> Why does my items keep going BACkm into me chest or BACK into my invetory when i put/remove then from the chesy
#1539 [20:20] * Me4502|away is now known as Me4502
#1540 [20:22] <Lukario45> anyone?
#1541 [20:22] <Lukario45> DiskDaemon?
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#1543 [20:23] <NinjaKirby> Playing on a public server?
#1544 [20:23] <Lukario45> yeah
#1545 [20:24] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, I remember experiencing that on the rare occasion, t'was usually Lag producing inconsistancies with client/server versions of what was happening.
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#1547 [20:24] <Lukario45> Its happening about 11 out of 10 times
#1548 [20:24] <NinjaKirby> Lawdie, how does even happen
#1549 [20:24] <Lukario45> Its starting to get annoting
#1550 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> I guess reconnecting to the server fails to solve matters
#1551 [20:25] <Lukario45> yeah
#1552 [20:29] <Lukario45> wkat should i do?
#1553 [20:30] <NinjaKirby> If it's just with that server in particular, I don't think there would be much one could do :/ But I pray I'm mistaken
#1554 [20:30] <Lukario45> Its every server i go to
#1555 [20:31] <Lukario45> i love being i minecraft user
#1556 [20:31] <Lukario45> and an IRC user
#1557 [20:31] <Lukario45> lol
#1558 [20:31] <NinjaKirby> Ah, in a way that's good to hear, has to be client side somehow, must be fixable :)
#1559 [20:31] <Lukario45> :D
#1560 [20:32] <Lukario45> :O
#1561 [20:32] <NinjaKirby> Do you get full green bars to these servers in the Server List?
#1562 [20:32] <Lukario45> yes and i just found out
#1563 [20:32] <NinjaKirby> What's that?
#1564 [20:32] <Lukario45> its doing it in singlem player too
#1565 [20:32] <NinjaKirby> Oh god
#1566 [20:32] <Lukario45> i got the retarded version of minecraft lol
#1567 [20:32] <NinjaKirby> I can't believe Java is doing that, more like the Minecraft files.
#1568 [20:33] <Lukario45> should i force an update?
#1569 [20:33] <NinjaKirby> I can't believe either would do that actually, but if your Minecraft isn't modded... yeah, I would go for that option >_<
#1570 [20:33] <Lutzee> Lukario45: wait can you even pick up a stack to your hand or does it just swap straight to like the hot bar as if you are holding shift?
#1571 [20:33] <Lukario45> No its not doing that
#1572 [20:33] <Lukario45> That fixes when i close minecraft
#1573 [20:35] <Lukario45> Any other way i shopuld try to fix it Lutzee
#1574 [20:35] <Lutzee> forceupdating maybe
#1575 [20:35] * NinjaKirby grins
#1575 [20:35] * Lukario45 sighs
#1575 [20:35] <Lukario45> lol
#1576 [20:36] <Lukario45> Updated force (i lost my one mod :()
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#1578 [20:37] <Lukario45> Well its working for now
#1579 [20:37] <Lukario45> Cya laters and thanks
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#1582 [20:42] <Robin> i cant connect to server it says failed to verify username second time its done this i want know how fix it when it happens again
#1583 [20:42] <VoxelHead> Robin - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
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#1589 [21:07] <shadowordl> hello?
#1590 [21:07] <shadowordl> anyone on?
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#1592 [21:08] <Lutzee> shadowordl: what's the problem?
#1593 [21:08] <shadowordl> i cant get forge installed into mincraft
#1594 [21:09] <shadowordl> ive tried lots of times
#1595 [21:09] <shadowordl> it doesnt cahgne anything
#1596 [21:09] <shadowordl> acts like there inst any files there
#1597 [21:09] <Lutzee> Oh right, i shouldn't help here, but the forge channel won't really help much either
#1598 [21:10] <shadowordl> hmm
#1599 [21:10] <Lutzee> First, you don't need modloader or modloadermp
#1600 [21:10] <shadowordl> i dont have them
#1601 [21:10] <Lutzee> okay good
#1602 [21:10] <shadowordl> i just have the forge files
#1603 [21:10] <shadowordl> oh and im on mac.
#1604 [21:10] <Lutzee> ah
#1605 [21:10] <Lutzee> you might want another launcher to help you then..
#1606 [21:10] <shadowordl> ok. so its my OS then
#1607 [21:11] <Lutzee> http://forkk.net/MultiMC4/
#1608 [21:11] <Lutzee> shadowordl: not really, just macs are annoying to install mods on
#1609 [21:11] <Lutzee> multimc is a nice tool for the job
#1610 [21:12] <shadowordl> ok thanks for helping me :D
#1611 [21:12] <Lutzee> a guide to using it can be found ehre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPtHeubvcWc
#1612 [21:12] <shadowordl> ive been wanting to install a runecraft mod
#1613 [21:12] <shadowordl> ? lol srry frist time of IRC
#1614 [21:12] <Lutzee> ignore the ctcp thing
#1615 [21:13] <shadowordl> ok
#1616 [21:13] <shadowordl> lol
#1617 [21:13] <Lutzee> I was only checking if you are on a new enough version of OSX, which you are :)
#1618 [21:14] <shadowordl> ohh XD ok
#1619 [21:14] <shadowordl> lol snow lep
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#1621 [21:19] <Wolf_22> I'm curious what some of you think is the best plugin to use with Bukkit to manage groups and permissions... I'd like a gui (I'm using BukkitGUI and it would be nice to tie this group / permission functionality into this). Any of you have any suggestions?
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#1623 [21:20] <Matty> Hello, I'm having openGL troubles.
#1624 [21:20] <shadowordl> umm now thats saying protocol http is not supported or disabled in libcurl
#1625 [21:22] <Lutzee> ahh crums
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#1627 [21:24] <Lutzee> shadowordl: give me a minute, i can ask the devs
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#1630 [21:26] <Meteor> Hello, I just recently created a Minecraft account, except I believe I entered the email wrong in my haste. Is there any way to retrieve the account, since I had a distinct username in mind?
#1631 [21:27] <Hotmexicanez> When i start up minecraft the start screen goes black and then does nothing help?
#1632 [21:27] <Meteor> Hotmexicanez, have you installed any mods?
#1633 [21:27] <shadowordl> ok thanks lutzee
#1634 [21:27] <Hotmexicanez> i had optifine going but then i removed it
#1635 [21:27] <Meteor> Force-update Hotmex.
#1636 [21:28] <Hotmexicanez> ok thanks
#1637 [21:28] <Meteor> If that doesn't work, come back and let me know.
#1638 [21:28] <Lutzee> Meteor: not really
#1639 [21:28] <Lutzee> Best option is to pick a new name
#1640 [21:28] <Meteor> Hmm
#1641 [21:28] <Meteor> Alright
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#1643 [21:29] <Hotmexicanez> Ok soz but how do you force update im scrolling through magic launcher and it says nothing
#1644 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> Hotmexicanez: We don't support custom launchers
#1645 [21:30] <Lutzee> oh magic launcher
#1646 [21:30] <darkshadow> hello my mincraft after about 5 mins of playing become super laggy
#1647 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> ??> Hotmexicanez win/reinst/bat
#1648 [21:30] <VoxelHead> Hotmexicanez: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1649 [21:30] <VoxelHead> Hotmexicanez: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1650 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> darkshadow: Has it worked before?
#1651 [21:30] <Lutzee> Magic launcher doesn't even touch the minecraft jar so i'm not sure what is going on O.o
#1652 [21:30] <darkshadow> i dont know, i just got it and started playing it
#1653 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee: no idea
#1654 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee: not that I know what it is
#1655 [21:31] <tyteen4a03> ??> darkshadow win/dxdiag
#1656 [21:31] <VoxelHead> darkshadow: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1657 [21:31] <VoxelHead> darkshadow: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1658 [21:31] <Meteor> Just to double check, how long does the verification email take to reach your inbox?
#1659 [21:31] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: i know that it doesn't touch the jar in any way
#1660 [21:31] <darkshadow> windows 7. let me get the dxdiag for you
#1661 [21:31] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee: not that I care :P
#1662 [21:31] <tyteen4a03> Meteor: usually instantly
#1663 [21:31] <Meteor> Yep, then it sent to the wrong email. :P
#1664 [21:31] <Meteor> Alright, thanks guys. Take care.
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#1666 [21:32] <Hotmexicanez> YES YES YES its going thanks
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#1669 [21:32] <Matty> Can someone help me with OpenGL?
#1670 [21:32] <darkshadow> ok got dxdiag what do you want from it?
#1671 [21:33] <Lutzee> Matty: what is the problem?
#1672 [21:33] <Lutzee> darkshadow: all the information in it can be useful
#1673 [21:33] <Matty> I get this message. Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1674 [21:33] <shadowordl> so lutzee what do i do?
#1675 [21:33] <darkshadow> ok how do I give the file on here
#1676 [21:33] <Matty> I run win 8, I know it's not my Video card, or anything to that nature.
#1677 [21:34] <Lutzee> shadowordl: one second i can grab a slightly older build of the launcher that might work, but it will cry for an update every time you start it ><
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#1679 [21:34] <shadowordl> ok. lol i wish i knew what all iw as doing with this stuff
#1680 [21:35] <Lutzee> http://jenkins.forkk.net/job/MultiMC4OSX/27/arch=x64,label=osx/artifact/MultiMC.zip here
#1681 [21:35] <whoru> I was wondering if anyone knows how to resize the minecraft window in arch linux using awesome wm.
#1682 [21:35] <whoru> when i resize it just fills with black.
#1683 [21:36] <shadowordl> thanks lutzee ill try this!!!!!!
#1684 [21:36] <Lutzee> Matty: all i can say it, it probably is your video card drivers
#1685 [21:36] <Matty> I've checked for updates, and everything.
#1686 [21:36] <Matty> And it still does this.
#1687 [21:36] <Lutzee> Matty: how have you checked for updates?
#1688 [21:36] <Lutzee> And what video card have you got?
#1689 [21:36] <Matty> Automatic updates.
#1690 [21:37] <Matty> And, I've went to the drivers on my video card.
#1691 [21:37] <shadowordl> umm thats still the same build
#1692 [21:37] <Matty> And checked for updates that way as well.
#1693 [21:37] <Matty> Say's I'm up to date.
#1694 [21:37] <Lutzee> er
#1695 [21:37] <Lutzee> ??> Matty win/dxdiag
#1696 [21:37] <darkshadow> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 9/15/2012, 20:31:57 Machine name: DAVID-PC Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: OEM System Model: OEM
#1697 [21:37] <VoxelHead> Matty: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1698 [21:37] <VoxelHead> Matty: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1699 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Windows update/device manager will never have the latest video drivers for you
#1700 [21:37] <Lutzee> darkshadow: pastebin.com for large pastes please
#1701 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to check your video card manufacturer's website for the latest drivers
#1702 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what video card you actually have?
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#1704 [21:38] <Matty> One moment, I'll look at the brand.
#1705 [21:38] <darkshadow> http://pastebin.com/JbMAF26z sorry about that
#1706 [21:39] <Matty> Intel(R) g33/31 Express Chipset Family(Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.0)
#1707 [21:39] <Matty> That is my Video card.
#1708 [21:39] <shadowordl> still not working. still the same build.
#1709 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Matty - Give us a dxdiag
#1710 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> ??> Matty win/dxdiag
#1711 [21:39] <VoxelHead> Matty: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1712 [21:39] <VoxelHead> Matty: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1714 [21:40] <Matty> Okay, one moment.
#1715 [21:40] <Lutzee> shadowordl: then i'm not sure then :/ thats what i was told to do by the devs
#1716 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: skip it
#1717 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1718 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> Matty: your graphics card is too old to play Minecraft
#1719 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> It's pretty old, sure..
#1720 [21:41] <Lutzee> darkshadow: might want to try updating your video drivers, you can get them here http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/win8-win7-winvista-64bit-306.23-whql-driver-uk.html
#1721 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> matty may still be able to play minecraft on it, albeit with much lag.
#1722 [21:41] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: yes, through the web
#1723 [21:41] <tyteen4a03> launcher will not work though
#1724 [21:41] <Matty> I play BF3, WoW, and various other games with no problem.
#1725 [21:41] * GreyVulpine nods
#1725 [21:41] <Matty> I have 8 gigs of ram, lol. I never lag on anything!
#1726 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Matty - None of which use OpenGL, which minecraft does.
#1727 [21:41] <shadowordl> let me try to find a older version ur link is leading me to the same version
#1728 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> And intel is notorious for having poor OpenGL support
#1729 [21:42] <darkshadow> getting them now thanks
#1730 [21:42] <tyteen4a03> ??> darkshadow gpu/nvidia
#1731 [21:42] <VoxelHead> darkshadow: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#1732 [21:42] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: i'm one step ahead of you there :p
#1733 [21:42] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee: oh
#1734 [21:42] <tyteen4a03> ok then
#1735 [21:42] * tyteen4a03 slowly steps out
#1735 [21:43] <darkshadow> i am using gtx 580x2 sli. I am now downloading updates
#1736 [21:43] <Matty> Should I try it in browser?
#1737 [21:44] <Matty> I just bought an account, and will be disapointed if I can't play.
#1738 [21:44] <darkshadow> is there anyway to make Mincraft full screen?
#1739 [21:44] <Lutzee> Matty: is this a desktop PC?
#1740 [21:44] <Matty> Yes.
#1741 [21:44] <Lutzee> darkshadow: press f11 i believe
#1742 [21:44] <darkshadow> thank you
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#1744 [21:45] <shadowordl> y would it be complaining about libcurl?
#1745 [21:45] <Matty> http://pastebin.com/qtq7r0EY
#1746 [21:46] <Lutzee> shadowordl: because of something they had to do to get it to work on the other platforms i think, they had a lot of problems with the mac version
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#1748 [21:47] <Lutzee> Matty: you always have the option of purchasing a cheap video card (say $30) it will help the PC run games better anyway
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#1750 [21:48] <CometRider> Alright, I'm having an issue with registering.
#1751 [21:48] <CometRider> It says it sent me an email, but I do not get one.
#1752 [21:48] <Matty> That means i'd have to pay another 30 on-top of the 20 i already paid to play minecraft.
#1753 [21:48] <Matty> To play on a computer that No even 2 years old.
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#1755 [21:50] <shadowordl> ok..
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#1758 [21:52] <Matty> So there is nothing else I can do, but buy a new Vcard?
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#1762 [21:53] <baxter1932> Hello?
#1763 [21:53] <baxter1932> Can someone help me?
#1764 [21:53] <Lutzee> As i can't find any windows 8 drivers thats currently the only option, but there might be a new one out to support windows 8 when it offcially releases
#1765 [21:53] <Lutzee> hello baxter1932
#1766 [21:54] <baxter1932> Lutzee I migrated my account but I forgot my secruty question
#1767 [21:54] <baxter1932> Can you help me?
#1768 [21:54] <Matty> Alright, thank you for your time.
#1769 [21:54] <shadowordl> ?join #multiMC
#1770 [21:54] <baxter1932> Lutzee
#1771 [21:54] <Lutzee> shadowordl: /join :)
#1772 [21:54] <baxter1932> Can you help me
#1773 [21:55] <baxter1932> Lutzee I migrated my account but I forgot my secruty question and I need to change my password :(
#1774 [21:55] <Lutzee> baxter1932: um i'm not sure what you can do short of posting a support request to mojang
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#1776 [21:55] <baxter1932> How do i do that lutzee?
#1777 [21:55] <baxter1932> Is there an e-mail?
#1778 [21:55] <Lutzee> you can do that here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1779 [21:56] <whoru> Found a fix for not being able to resize in linux. Install wmname and run $ wmname LG3D before launching.
#1780 [21:56] <Lutzee> Make sure to include your transaction ID otherwise they can't help you as you have no proof of purchsase
#1781 [21:56] <whoru> I think the issue had to do with using a tiling WM
#1782 [21:56] <baxter1932> I deleted that email awhile ago lutzee..
#1783 [21:56] <baxter1932> Does that mean I am screwed?
#1784 [21:56] <Lutzee> baxter1932: you should never delete those sorts of emails, but you can contact your bank and ask them to find the payment
#1785 [21:57] <Lutzee> Or paypal if that is how you paid
#1786 [21:57] <Lutzee> Or paypal if that is how you paid
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#1788 [21:57] <baxter1932> I used credit card
#1789 [21:58] <Lutzee> Then you should contact the bank that issued the credit card
#1790 [21:58] <baxter1932> The honest truth is .. that some jerk across the world guessed my password migrated it then made a secruity pass for me :(
#1791 [21:58] <baxter1932> I am so pissed off at him cause now I can't change my pass
#1792 [21:59] <Lutzee> I guess i should also point you to this article http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
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#1794 [22:00] <baxter1932> Lutzee
#1795 [22:00] <baxter1932> Lutzee
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#1797 [22:00] <Lutzee> Yes?
#1798 [22:01] <baxter1932> I highly doubt that my bank would give it back it was ages ago
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#1800 [22:01] <baxter1932> It was like October 2011
#1801 [22:01] <Lutzee> baxter1932: ofcourse they will, its your data they are holding, they have to keep record of everything
#1802 [22:01] <baxter1932> hmm ok
#1803 [22:02] <Lutzee> Banks will keep their records bank 100 years you know :p
#1804 [22:04] <baxter1932> Um
#1805 [22:04] <baxter1932> Can mojang just give me my thing?
#1806 [22:04] <baxter1932> Like my security answers?
#1807 [22:05] <Lutzee> How would they know the account was yours though? :)
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#1809 [22:06] <baxter1932> idk
#1810 [22:06] <baxter1932> I could give them my email
#1811 [22:07] <baxter1932> and then I could log onto the email and send them a secret code message
#1812 [22:07] <Lutzee> Thats a lot of trouble to go through for them
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#1814 [22:08] <baxter1932> :(
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#1820 [22:21] <Maxszy> Hello. Having issues with my minecraft app running on my Mac. It will not start at all. Click on the minecraft app icon and nothing is happening. First of all, I am on OSX 10.8.1. I have updated Java to the latest version of Java 6. I have reinstalled minecraft a handful of times. Made sure "gatekeeper" was off and allowed me to download and install it. Checked my Java preferences and they seem to be fine. Any help would be greatly appreci
#1821 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/permissions
#1822 [22:22] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1823 [22:22] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1824 [22:25] <Maxszy> Easy enough, except now its saying "no such file or directory". And yes, minecraft is in the standard Applications folder.
#1825 [22:25] <Maxszy> Thanks for your prompt and direct response btw.
#1826 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Is it named Minecraft.app?
#1827 [22:25] <Maxszy> Correct, it is.
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#1829 [22:26] <Maxszy> Well technically just "Minecraft" on the actual name.
#1830 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Could you run minecraft.app via the terminal, just to see what it returns?
#1831 [22:26] <Maxszy> Sure.
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#1833 [22:28] <Maxszy> Ok, strange. It just booted from terminal.
#1834 [22:28] <Maxszy> Just wont from the app itself.
#1835 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Strange..
#1836 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Delete and redownload/reinstall?
#1837 [22:29] <Maxszy> Yeah, I will try that.
#1838 [22:29] <Maxszy> Thanks for all your help. Much appreciated.
#1839 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Sure.
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#1845 [22:45] <rottencock> ok, ive managed to totally screw up my copy of minecraft. I was adding mods and screwed it up ( really dont know what im doing) so i deleted my jar files as instructed by some forum or another. do not seem to be able to install afresh copy. tried to force update and got "updating minecraft, done loading" but it wont finish or play. tried deleting all files and re-downloading but still dont have the jar files and i get the same me
#1846 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on?
#1847 [22:46] <rottencock> vista premium 64
#1848 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/reinst
#1849 [22:46] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1850 [22:46] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1851 [22:46] <Blackhole> I just Purchased Minecraft for $26.95 obtained a gift code but when I entered it it stated invalid or used gift code but I have not used it yet what can I do?
#1852 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Blackhole - From whom did you purchase the code from?
#1853 [22:47] <rottencock> sweet, thank you sir. tryin that now
#1854 [22:47] <Blackhole> Minecraft .net
#1855 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, are you sure you're inputting the code correctly/
#1856 [22:48] <Blackhole> I copied it from the profile
#1857 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Does your profile indicate the code is unused?
#1858 [22:49] <Blackhole> it is the only code in the profile but it does not indicate whether it is used or not, it's just gift code
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#1861 [22:53] <rottencock> VOXELHEAD now my login fails and im told "not downloaded"
#1862 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> rottencock - Did you purchase an account?
#1863 [22:53] <rottencock> yep
#1864 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're inputting the right username/password
#1865 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> "Login Failed" means the password is being entered wrong.
#1866 [22:54] <rottencock> oh, fer christs sake! seems to be updating
#1867 [22:55] <rottencock> thank you folks, all is right with the world
#1868 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Yay.
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#1873 [23:04] <Irish> anyone here who can help me with a server related question?
#1874 [23:10] <Irish> :(
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#1876 [23:12] <Felix> if i have an externally hosted server (paying website to host it) and my world folder is "world" right now, if i upload an adventure map and change the level-name= in server properties to the adventure map can i change it back to "world" and use my original world. or will it just generate a completely new map?
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#1878 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> As long as you still have the folder named 'world' in the same directory, it won't generate a new map
#1879 [23:12] <AG_Clinton> Yes.
#1880 [23:12] <Felix> ty :]
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#1888 [23:28] <Twised_tac0> i keep getting unknown host
#1889 [23:28] <Twised_tac0> but the sever is real beacuse one of my frineds is on it
#1890 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> What is the serer's ip?
#1891 [23:29] <Twised_tac0> pvp.novscraft.com
#1892 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> !check pvp.novscraft.com
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#1894 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Are you putting it in correctly?
#1895 [23:31] <Twised_tac0> ok thaks it work :)
#1896 [23:31] <Wolf_22> Is there any way to get a complete list of every permission you have within (I'm using Bukkit w/ the BukkitGUI and PermissionsBukkit plugin)? I haven't come across how to do this reading the tutorials I have read...
#1897 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Wolf_22 - You'd be better off asking in #bukkit
#1898 [23:32] <Twised_tac0> ?
#1899 [23:32] <Wolf_22> Gray Vulpine: I'll ask there. Thanks.
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