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#2 [00:00] <Twised_tac0> i am geting unknow host please help
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#4 [00:02] <Twised_tac0> hello can i get some help my minecraft multplayer is getting unknow host
#5 [00:03] <AG_Clinton> Twised_tac0: Be patient
#6 [00:03] <Twised_tac0> ok
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#10 [00:08] <Twised_tac0> hello
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#12 [00:09] <Smanly> Twised_tac0: What are you trying to do?
#13 [00:10] <Twised_tac0> my minecraft is say unknow host but i know it is a real sever beacuse a friend is on it
#14 [00:11] <Smanly> What is the ip?
#15 [00:11] <Twised_tac0> pvp.novscraft.com
#16 [00:11] <Smanly> You are either not entering it correctly, it is not up, or you have the wrong ip
#17 [00:11] <Smanly> !check pvp.novscraft.com
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#19 [00:11] <Twised_tac0> and i had someone look at it like 30min. ago and it worked now it doesnt
#20 [00:12] <Smanly> Its either not up, or you have the wring op
#21 [00:12] <Twised_tac0> yes
#22 [00:12] <Smanly> ip*
#23 [00:12] <Smanly> yes what?
#24 [00:12] <Twised_tac0> pvp.novscraft.com
#25 [00:13] <Smanly> What about it?
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#27 [00:13] <Twised_tac0> i cant con.
#28 [00:13] <Smanly> Its not up.
#29 [00:14] <Smanly> Or the ip is not correct.
#30 [00:14] <Smanly> We cannot help you with either.
#31 [00:14] <Twised_tac0> its all my severs
#32 [00:14] <Twised_tac0> i go on
#33 [00:14] <Smanly> wat
#34 [00:14] <Smanly> Do you administrate them?
#35 [00:14] <Twised_tac0> no
#36 [00:14] <Twised_tac0> ill come back latter
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#38 [00:15] <Smanly> -_____-
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#40 [00:17] <bomberbandit> why wont the game load??? it hasnt worked all day
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#47 [00:26] <piyo> hello is there a irc channel for the ios mc pocket edition
#48 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Doubt it
#49 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> You can try a /list to list all the channels on espernet
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#51 [00:31] <piyo> hi well i am playing the mc pe ios version 0.4.0 and the building is kinda fun
#52 [00:31] <piyo> i have no experience with the proper PC version
#53 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> Not many of us here use the PE/xbox versions.
#54 [00:33] <piyo> yeah, well it seems the forums aren't up right now for me
#55 [00:33] <piyo> www.minecraftforum.net
#56 [00:33] <piyo> ... and its back. :-)
#57 [00:34] <piyo> the mc pe ios just got Chests
#58 [00:35] <piyo> and this feeds appeals greatly to my colleco
#59 [00:35] <piyo> ... my collecting addiction
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#62 [00:47] <Smanly> I actually started on the PE demo.
#63 [00:47] <Smanly> The PC version is MUCH better.
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#65 [00:47] <Smanly> Mainly due to multiplayer.
#66 [00:47] <piyo> im sure it is but i rather use my mobile ios device for now
#67 [00:48] <Smanly> Hokay.
#68 [00:48] <Smanly> Also: http://i.imgur.com/lpDGz.jpg
#69 [00:48] <piyo> i found diamonds but i couldnt find any gold
#70 [00:50] <piyo> question: how can i make grass grow on dirt i placed?
#71 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> It needs to be adjacent to grass already, or have a lighted path to dirt that has grass on it
#72 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> You can read: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Grass_Block for more information on grass propagation
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#74 [00:53] <piyo> very interesting
#75 [00:53] <piyo> thx
#76 [00:53] <BranicYeti> Are there any minecraft channels that are based on a non-english language?
#77 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Not that I know of.
#78 [00:53] <BranicYeti> Hmm. I was sure I saw one somewhere...
#79 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> There's definately foreign-language fora out there for minecraft. I know I saw a .fr one.
#80 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> Not sure about IRC channels. The main ones around esper are geared for english mainly.
#81 [00:55] <BranicYeti> hmm
#82 [00:55] <BranicYeti> hmm
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#85 [01:01] <PurpbyTheoz> hey
#86 [01:01] <PurpbyTheoz> when i login from the dl client my screen just closes and nothing happens
#87 [01:01] <PurpbyTheoz> or when i try to play through browser its just a white screen
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#89 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any error reports?
#90 [01:02] <PurpbyTheoz> No nothing happens
#91 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#92 [01:03] <PurpbyTheoz> how do i find that out
#93 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> ?? os
#94 [01:03] <VoxelHead> os: Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
#95 [01:03] <joeythegator> im tring to play on line i just bought this game for my son and he cant play online so what do i do
#96 [01:03] <PurpbyTheoz> Vista
#97 [01:04] <PurpbyTheoz> Yeah my operating system is vista
#98 [01:05] <joeythegator> he is playing on vista to
#99 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> joeythegator - Why can't he play online? What message does he get?
#100 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> PurpbyTheoz - Try these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#101 [01:05] <joeythegator> will not conect
#102 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> joeythegator - Try having him connect to s.nerd.nu
#103 [01:06] <PurpbyTheoz> thank you
#104 [01:06] <joeythegator> how do i do that i cant get in anywhere it downloads then goes to sign in and stops
#105 [01:07] <BranicYeti> joeythegator, do you know your java version?
#106 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> joeythegator - Stops how?
#107 [01:08] <BranicYeti> I find that using java 7 will not download the minecraft files
#108 [01:08] <joeythegator> not sure but it goes to log in then says cant log in and what is this server thing
#109 [01:09] <BranicYeti> cant log in suggests that you aren't connected to the internet or the login details are wrong
#110 [01:09] <PurpbyTheoz> i followed those instructions and it opened up the log in and once i log in it says done laoding then closes out?
#111 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> PurpbyTheoz - Has it ever worked before?
#112 [01:10] <PurpbyTheoz> Yes but i recently restored my cpu
#113 [01:10] <PurpbyTheoz> and havent tried it since then
#114 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> PurpbyTheoz - Just a guess here, Windows operating system?
#115 [01:11] <PurpbyTheoz> yes
#116 [01:11] <joeythegator> im loged in already but it keeps going to this same log in
#117 [01:11] <PurpbyTheoz> windows vista
#118 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> PurpbyTheoz - Did you make a new windows account for him?
#119 [01:12] <PurpbyTheoz> how do i do that?
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#126 [01:13] <PurpbyTheoz> alright you said something about a windows account?
#127 [01:15] <PurpbyTheoz> Is there anyway i can get a refund?
#128 [01:15] <Smanly> NO.
#129 [01:15] <Smanly> No*
#130 [01:15] <PurpbyTheoz> Not really fit for waiting 20 mins for support tbh
#131 [01:16] <PurpbyTheoz> So i have Vista Operating system, Whenever i open up the client i click log in then it says done loading and the screen closes and nothing happens
#132 [01:16] <joeythegator> look i will stop payment monday morning if he cant play it
#133 [01:17] <Dream_Rider> PurpbyTheoz, did you do what GreyVulpine posted in the link?
#134 [01:17] <PurpbyTheoz> Yes i followed everything and it opens command prompt then the client and it still closes out
#135 [01:17] <joeythegator> i went to link its a hotel
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#137 [01:17] <Dream_Rider> It should make a file in that folder with a error crash report
#138 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> PurpbyTheoz - I'm asking, when you restored your CPU, if you reinstalled windows
#139 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> And if so, if you made a new windows account at all for yourself, or your son?
#140 [01:18] <PurpbyTheoz> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x09d0dec0, pid=5816, tid=4936 # # JRE version: 7.0_06-b24 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (23.2-b09 mixed mode, sharing windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C 0x09d0dec0 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows # # If you would like to submit a bu
#141 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hah.
#142 [01:18] <PurpbyTheoz> can i send the file somehow?
#143 [01:18] <PurpbyTheoz> i cant post the whole link
#144 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> give us a dxdiag, please
#145 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#146 [01:19] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#147 [01:19] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#149 [01:20] <mib_0ap80t> Hello
#150 [01:20] <PurpbyTheoz> http://pastebin.com/rTXJgazN
#151 [01:20] <Smanly> Hi
#152 [01:20] <mib_0ap80t> I need some help...
#153 [01:20] <mib_0ap80t> How long does it take for a email ZVerifyer to send me a email ?
#154 [01:21] <Smanly> mib_0ap80t: Is this inregards to you purchasing an account?
#155 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> PurpbyTheoz - I asked for a dxdiag, please
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#157 [01:21] <PurpbyTheoz> what do you mean?
#158 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> A dxdiag report will give us more information about your system.
#159 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Please follow VoxelHead's instructions here:
#160 [01:22] <mib_0ap80t> Im tryig to download the game and i registered and now im waiting for a email to be sent but im not getting one
#161 [01:22] <PurpbyTheoz> how do i give you that?
#162 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> ??> PurpbyTheoz win/dxdiag
#163 [01:22] <VoxelHead> PurpbyTheoz: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#164 [01:22] <VoxelHead> PurpbyTheoz: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#165 [01:22] <PurpbyTheoz> dxdiag
#166 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes. A dxdiag
#167 [01:22] <Smanly> mib_0ap80t: How long did you wait?
#168 [01:22] <PurpbyTheoz> wheres the win+r key?
#169 [01:22] <PurpbyTheoz> wheres the win+r key?
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#171 [01:22] <mib_0ap80t> i have now been waitin like 5mins
#172 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> What is the key on your keyboard between your ctrl and alt keys?
#173 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Press that, and the R keys at the same time
#174 [01:23] <PurpbyTheoz> Fn
#175 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Not that one.
#176 [01:23] <Smanly> mib_0ap80t: you may need to wait much longer than that.
#177 [01:23] <PurpbyTheoz> dxdiag
#178 [01:23] <PurpbyTheoz> its a flag
#179 [01:23] <PurpbyTheoz> the windows logo
#180 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> There should be a windows logo icon there
#181 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Press that flag, and your R keys at the same time
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#183 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> A run prompt pops up, yes?
#184 [01:23] <PurpbyTheoz> yes
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#186 [01:24] <PurpbyTheoz> i typed in dxdiag
#187 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Follow the rest of VoxelHead's instructions.
#188 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#189 [01:24] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#190 [01:24] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#191 [01:24] <havok> hi
#192 [01:24] <havok> help?
#193 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Hi
#194 [01:25] <havok> My portal to the nether is glitching
#195 [01:25] <Smanly> havok: how so?
#196 [01:25] <PurpbyTheoz> http://pastebin.com/hhstWw9Q
#197 [01:25] <PurpbyTheoz> there ya go
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#199 [01:25] <havok> what is that?
#200 [01:26] <PurpbyTheoz> my error report
#201 [01:26] <Smanly> havok: Text directed at you will include your name.
#202 [01:26] <joeythegator> thanks dude i got him into the server you said s.nerd.nu
#203 [01:26] <PurpbyTheoz> alright
#204 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> PurpbyTheoz - You're running a ATI Radeon X1250 video card with drivers from 2007 on it. Please download these drivers and install them. They should be updated for your system. http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/integrated_vista32.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.2.3.2&lang=English
#205 [01:28] <PurpbyTheoz> alright
#206 [01:28] <joeythegator> how do you find other servers to play on
#207 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#208 [01:28] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#209 [01:28] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
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#211 [01:29] <joeythegator> thanks if he has any more problems i will try to return to this site thank you for your help
#212 [01:30] <Smanly> Hokay
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#214 [01:34] <Smanly> lol
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#221 [01:38] <djwise> hello
#222 [01:38] <Smanly> o/
#223 [01:39] <djwise> how can i verify my email if it is not sending
#224 [01:39] <Smanly> How long did you wait?
#225 [01:40] <djwise> its been a few hours now
#226 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Have you checked the right email account, including all possible folders it may be in (spam?)
#227 [01:40] <djwise> yes
#228 [01:40] <Smanly> It may take a while.
#229 [01:40] <djwise> ive even created 3 different accounts to 3 different emails and nothing
#230 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> If you did not put in the right address, you'll need to either wait for the email validation to time out, or you would need to file a support ticket to Mojang
#231 [01:41] <Smanly> The servers may be having issues.
#232 [01:41] <Smanly> Another person was in here with the same issue.
#233 [01:42] <djwise> been waiting all day to buy this game and now i cant because i have to wait
#234 [01:42] <djwise> lol
#235 [01:42] <Smanly> :/
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#237 [01:43] <Smanly> This guy
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#239 [01:43] <djwise> thanks
#240 [01:43] <Smanly> Great, now we are all gonna get sick.
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#248 [01:53] <Dustin> Hello i need some help on my account issues..
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#256 [02:22] <mib_coy9lc> is there any server mod that is working for 1.3.2 that allows admins to be invisible / cloaked? (hidden playerchar, not the name in list is important, just the char itself)
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#263 [02:29] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_coy9lc
#264 [02:29] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_coy9lc mods
#265 [02:29] <VoxelHead> mib_coy9lc: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#266 [02:29] <VoxelHead> mib_coy9lc: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#277 [03:22] <Raaaaachel> I need help..
#278 [03:23] <Raaaaachel> Anyone?
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#280 [03:28] <IronDuke> anyone around to help me with my email verification issue?
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#282 [03:37] <jombersson> hey
#283 [03:38] <IronDuke> ello
#284 [03:38] <jombersson> i have a problem that wolves and ocelots spawn too much in winter biomes i dont know about other biomes version 1.3.2
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#286 [03:39] <IronDuke> ive been waiting for help for like 10 min and no one has responded
#287 [03:39] <IronDuke> maybe youll have better luck
#288 [03:40] <jombersson> do you have the same problem?
#289 [03:40] <IronDuke> lol, no
#290 [03:40] <jombersson> whats it then?
#291 [03:40] <IronDuke> i cant seem to get my verification email
#292 [03:40] <jombersson> of classic/smp user?
#293 [03:40] <jombersson> or forum
#294 [03:41] <IronDuke> um, classic i suppose?
#295 [03:41] <IronDuke> im just trying to get register on the website so i can download the dang thing
#296 [03:41] <jombersson> did you use gmaikl?
#297 [03:41] <IronDuke> yeah
#298 [03:41] <jombersson> it doesnt work with that ewerytime
#299 [03:41] <IronDuke> also tried an old account as well, no luck there either
#300 [03:41] <jombersson> but you need premium for smp
#301 [03:42] <IronDuke> im new to minecraft on PC, so I'm not even sure what you're talking aboput
#302 [03:42] <jombersson> you know that survival thing
#303 [03:43] <jombersson> you can get a demo for some amount of time
#304 [03:43] <jombersson> but if you dont buy the game you can only play the demo or minecraftclassic
#305 [03:43] <IronDuke> yeah
#306 [03:43] <IronDuke> ahh
#307 [03:43] <IronDuke> yeah, i was planning on going premium
#308 [03:43] <jombersson> do you have a normal email account?
#309 [03:44] <IronDuke> yeah, nothing special about it
#310 [03:44] <IronDuke> just my run-of-the-mill personal email account
#311 [03:44] <jombersson> use it not the gmail
#312 [03:44] <IronDuke> suppose i could try and remember my yahoo email
#313 [03:44] <jombersson> sometimes a verification email on some games dont reach gmail
#314 [03:45] <IronDuke> wow first try
#315 [03:45] <jombersson> first try and it worked?
#316 [03:46] <IronDuke> well, first password worked
#317 [03:47] <IronDuke> still no luck
#318 [03:47] <IronDuke> created 3 different accounts on three different emails
#319 [03:47] <IronDuke> wish i could help you with your problem
#320 [03:47] <IronDuke> but ive only played on the xbox
#321 [03:48] <jombersson> my problem is solved somehow now
#322 [03:48] <jombersson> does xbox version have jungle biomes?
#323 [03:48] <IronDuke> dont think so
#324 [03:48] <Kanegasi> random question about the main .jar file. when i extract it to look at all the files, why is aux.class giving winrar an error?
#325 [03:48] <IronDuke> doesnt have a LOT of things
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#327 [03:49] <Kanegasi> this error occurs for 1.3.2 and every weekly .jar since then
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#329 [03:49] <jombersson> why do you want to extract minecraft.jar?
#330 [03:49] <Kanegasi> i said to look at the files, but that isnt relevant to the question
#331 [03:49] <Kanegasi> i said to look at the files, but that isnt relevant to the question
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#333 [03:50] <jombersson> so it gives an class error?
#334 [03:51] <jombersson> try to do open with-winrar
#335 [03:51] <jombersson> or 7zip
#336 [03:51] <Kanegasi> the error winrar is getting is Cannot create aux.class The parameter is incorrect.
#337 [03:51] <Kanegasi> i also said winrar
#338 [03:52] <Kanegasi> i was just curious if anyone knew why
#339 [03:53] <jombersson> hmm so you tried to extract the files somewhere?
#340 [03:53] <Kanegasi> yes, to a folder
#341 [03:53] <jombersson> i think you should open the jar first and then move the files to the foldeer or did you try that?
#342 [03:54] <Kanegasi> opening the .jar and dragging the files out is the same thing as extracting
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#345 [03:55] <jombersson> but it might work better
#346 [03:56] <Kanegasi> just for s&g, tried it, same error
#347 [03:56] <Kanegasi> because its the same action
#348 [03:56] <jombersson> then i cant help anyway other than
#349 [03:56] <jombersson> try to update/reinstall winrar
#350 [03:57] <jombersson> do you have any type of fix to my problem?
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#352 [03:58] <jombersson> too many ocelots and wolves spawning on ewery biome
#353 [03:58] <Kanegasi> every biome?
#354 [03:59] <Kanegasi> i thought your issue was too much in winter biomes
#355 [03:59] <Kanegasi> and ocelots dont spawn outside of jungles
#356 [03:59] <jombersson> in all biomes
#357 [03:59] <jombersson> and they do i have a picture
#358 [03:59] <Kanegasi> give me the seed
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#360 [04:00] <jombersson> its not the seed its some sort of a problem
#361 [04:00] <jombersson> on ewery save i do
#362 [04:00] <jombersson> http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n498/jombersson/2012-09-14_160446.png
#363 [04:00] <jombersson> no spawn eggs were used
#364 [04:01] <Calinou> jombersson: that doesn't look like a "bad chunk" issue, "bad chunk" issues have enormous amounts of mobs, much more than on your screenshot
#365 [04:02] <jombersson> umh
#366 [04:02] <Kanegasi> i still think an ocelot showing outside a jungle is a bit odd
#367 [04:02] <Kanegasi> but i dont think its a problem, per se
#368 [04:02] <Calinou> they can move, you know? :P
#369 [04:02] <Calinou> they don't despawn too, so they may end up far away from jungles
#370 [04:02] <jombersson> i saw one spawn'
#371 [04:03] <jombersson> outrside jungle
#372 [04:03] <Calinou> it can happen, if the /biome/ is jungle (you can check this by looking at the grass/leaves color or pressing F3)
#373 [04:04] <jombersson> there spawned 5 ocelots in a forest no jungle
#374 [04:04] <jombersson> im gonna move to other chunk
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#377 [04:10] <maxi> How can we play minecraft in Browser? On Window the application stucks, after choosing the game options, on mac the application already stiucks, after sign in
#378 [04:12] <jombersson> the ocelots keep spawning
#379 [04:14] <jombersson> xcant anyone help????
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#381 [04:15] <jombersson> the ocelots are wild but tamed?????
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#383 [04:16] <Kanegasi> ... have you tamed any cats at all in that world before?
#384 [04:17] <Calinou> maxi: why do you want to play in browser?
#385 [04:17] <Necrodoom> jombersson: are you playing in online mode?
#386 [04:17] <Calinou> jombersson: is it a newly created world?
#387 [04:18] <jombersson> its on singleplayer and yes it is newly created
#388 [04:18] <jombersson> im making an adventuremap
#389 [04:18] <Necrodoom> according to wiki: Ocelots and wolves will follow and teleport to any nameless player even if they are untamed.
#390 [04:18] <Necrodoom> so if offline mode, this happens
#391 [04:19] <jombersson> umhhh
#392 [04:20] <jombersson> aah i used wrong luncher and forgot to use my friends account thx
#393 [04:20] <jombersson> i didnt think much i often use offlinemode on school
#394 [04:21] <jombersson> tnhaks for helping me
#395 [04:22] <Necrodoom> wrong launcher?
#396 [04:23] <Necrodoom> do you mean you never bought minecraft?
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#398 [04:25] <Calinou> Necrodoom: offline mode players are not nameless
#399 [04:25] <Calinou> they have the name the player chosen
#400 [04:25] <Calinou> the official launcher chooses "Player"
#401 [04:26] <Necrodoom> ah, thought wiki meant "player" when it said nameless
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#403 [04:34] <combatdud3> Guys anybody able to help with using minecraft lan server on linux?
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#424 [06:46] <lazy3ye> Anyone know why this happens when i stop my server and how i can fix it http://imgur.com/8yiYU
#425 [06:47] <Andrio> I'm not sure why that's happening, but it looks harmless.
#426 [06:51] <lazy3ye> could it be router related. cos this happens on 3 different computers
#427 [06:52] <Andrio> I don't think so.
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#453 [08:02] <arkygeek> hi. i installed mineos crux on a Pentium D with 2 gig ram, and it runs ok. however, I can't figure out how to do a couple of things
#454 [08:03] <arkygeek> first thing I am trying to do is have it host two different things - a world we created, and shipwrecked
#455 [08:03] <arkygeek> I created two servers, one on port 25565 the other on 25566.
#456 [08:04] <arkygeek> when i shutdown the computer to move it to a new spot in the house, the entire server directory was deleted!
#457 [08:04] <arkygeek> to shutdown i did this:
#458 [08:05] <arkygeek> su root
#459 [08:05] <arkygeek> shutdown now
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#461 [08:06] <arkygeek> anyway, I have created the two servers again, same as before, but with the web interface, I have an issue
#462 [08:06] <arkygeek> when no servers are running, both servers appear in status (as down)
#463 [08:07] <arkygeek> when I start one, and wait for it to say started, then click status, only that one appears.
#464 [08:07] <arkygeek> what am I doing wrong?
#465 [08:11] <arkygeek> hi. i installed mineos crux on a Pentium D with 2 gig ram, and it runs ok. however, I can't figure out how to do a couple of things
#466 [08:11] <arkygeek> oops
#467 [08:11] <arkygeek> do i have a voice?
#468 [08:12] <FLHerne> arkygeek: yes
#469 [08:12] <FLHerne> That doesn't mean I know the answer though :-(
#470 [08:12] <arkygeek> oh, ok... just checking. thx FLHerne
#471 [08:14] <FLHerne> It's normally a lot busier on here. Dunno where everyone's gone :P
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#479 [08:41] <CraterK> hello
#480 [08:41] <CraterK> i need help
#481 [08:43] <FLHerne> CraterK: With what?
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#485 [08:52] <CraterK> Spammmmmmmmmmmmm
#486 [08:52] <CraterK> Spammmmmmmmmmmmm
#487 [08:52] <CraterK> Spammmmmmmmmmmmm
#488 [08:52] <CraterK> Spammmmmmmmmmmmm
#489 [08:52] <CraterK> Spammmmmmmmmmmmm
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#492 [08:53] <Lutzee> lulwut
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#495 [08:57] <Calinou> lol
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#497 [08:58] <Guest78186> where can i find the command list
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#505 [09:29] <theaterton> Hello, ist there a way to get an "older" minecraft version? I need 1.3.1 for testing a mod.
#506 [09:29] * Away|2k10 is now known as _2k10
#507 [09:30] <Andrio> use MCNostalgia
#508 [09:30] <Necrodoom> mcnostalgia, i think
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#510 [09:32] <theaterton> thank you. i'll give it a try
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#522 [09:47] <ChrisKiller> hELLO....i need some views for my video..i wanna be partner cause i need money...1 view of each of you will make me happy..http://tinyurl.com/9o4mnep
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#525 [09:47] <FLHerne> Useless spammers :-(
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#532 [09:58] <TheNoodle> FLHerne, he was network banned
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#543 [10:30] <helplessdad> my son bought minecraft yesterday and the file won't load on his macbook - after downloading the system says the zip file is damaged and cannot be opened - help?
#544 [10:33] <NinjaKirby> Helplessdad, I think this is a common problem, I will attempt to summon now the correct Bot response (and perhaps fail miserably)
#545 [10:33] <NinjaKirby> ??> helplessdad mac/gatekeeper
#546 [10:33] <VoxelHead> helplessdad: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
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#548 [10:35] <NinjaKirby> About 24 hours ago, someone reported the same problem, and they also had a Mac with the same error response ("Damaged archive" or whatever)
#549 [10:35] <NinjaKirby> And looking through the logs, a lot of people report this problem, which is apparently circumvented following Voxelheads instructions :)
#550 [10:36] <Calinou> VoxelHead, hating OS X since 2010.(R)
#551 [10:37] <NinjaKirby> But still, Voxel valiantly fights on to help it's userbase
#552 [10:37] <helplessdad> you guys are the best - thanks VoxelHead - it was the security - tx!!!
#553 [10:37] <NinjaKirby> Hmm, *its without an apostrophe I guess
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#555 [10:38] <NinjaKirby> I wonder if I can add these to my Scripts Popup list somehow
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#560 [10:47] <codysdad> minecraft keeps stop working. gives me error c:\user\dale\appdata\roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash2012-9-16-08.2422-client.txt. does this tell you anything?
#561 [10:49] <Morrolan> Put it on www.pastebin.com or similar.
#562 [10:49] <Andrio> codysdad, we can't access your C drive
#563 [10:49] <codysdad> why?
#564 [10:49] <Morrolan> However, seeing as how you are using a custom launcher / mod, does it work with the vanilla installation?
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#566 [10:50] <codysdad> whats vanilla installatio?
#567 [10:50] <Morrolan> A non-modified version of Minecraft.
#568 [10:50] <codysdad> how do i get that
#569 [10:51] <Morrolan> Are you using a custom launcher, or merely mods?
#570 [10:51] <codysdad> mods
#571 [10:51] <Morrolan> Then start the launcher -> options -> force update -> log in as usual
#572 [10:52] <codysdad> ok ill try that
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#575 [10:53] <Morrolan> I would assume that fixed it, then.
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#577 [10:54] <StalkerPMC> Hi everybody
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#578 [10:54] <FLHerne> StalkerPMC: Hi again :-)
#579 [10:54] <StalkerPMC> i stumbled apon strange block - it's made of black,grey and white pixels, and small grey pixels are flying around them
#580 [10:54] <StalkerPMC> i can't destroy it with anything
#581 [10:55] <StalkerPMC> what the hell is that?
#582 [10:55] <Boreeas> It is called bedrock, and marks the bottom of the world
#583 [10:55] <Morrolan> Uh, black and white might be bedrock.
#584 [10:55] <Boreeas> It prevents you from falling out
#585 [10:55] <Morrolan> I didn't know that bedrock had a particle effect, though.
#586 [10:55] <Boreeas> It is possible to place and remove with mods and plugins
#587 [10:55] <Morrolan> and creative, too, I believe.
#588 [10:55] <Boreeas> Morrolan: Yeah, it creates flying particles and some kind of foggy dust
#589 [10:55] <FLHerne> Morrolan: There's one in the bottom few levels of the world ;-)
#590 [10:56] <StalkerPMC> ok, got it.
#591 [10:56] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Yea, I knew about the foggy dust (very annoying), but wasn't aware of those particles. :)
#592 [10:56] <Morrolan> Well, the more you know.
#593 [10:56] <FLHerne> StalkerPMC: Basically, it's to stop you mining out of the bottom of the world, which is only near-infinite in the other two dimensions :P
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#595 [10:57] <Morrolan> Heh, indeed, there is a particle effect.
#596 [10:57] * Morrolan just dug down
#596 [10:57] <StalkerPMC> oh yeah. I am sooo smart and lucky. I started to dig in different vertical direction, and i stumbled upon lava. Awesome.
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#598 [10:58] <Morrolan> You better *puts on sunglasses* stay cool, then.
#599 [10:59] <FLHerne> StalkerPMC: Not 'stumbled upon' as in 'fell into', I hope :D
#600 [11:00] <StalkerPMC> nah, i was quick and avoided
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#602 [11:01] <StalkerPMC> `hmmm. I don't have enough wood to make ladders, but i have to go up. Any ideas?
#603 [11:01] <Morrolan> Place blocks below you, dig a staircase.
#604 [11:01] <Morrolan> If you've got a bucket full of water, use that one to swim up.
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#610 [11:14] <harrys> hey is there a fix to read timed out?
#611 [11:20] <NinjaKirby> Is that when trying to connect to a Public server?
#612 [11:21] <harrys> yeah my friend is on it
#613 [11:21] <harrys> i can log into it, play it for like 5 seconds then it lags and isn't responding for about 10 seconds. After that i just get the read timed out error
#614 [11:21] <harrys> sorry i've got to brb
#615 [11:21] <harrys> talk after
#616 [11:21] <harrys> ill stay in here though
#617 [11:26] <NinjaKirby> Seems Server/Client version mismatch is a common related issue, or Mojang server hiccuping confirming a players legit/premium can cause it.
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#619 [11:30] <GOPJ1> Only some people can join my bukkit server please help
#620 [11:32] <harrys> Ninja im playing tekkit, and yes i do have a premium account
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#622 [11:33] <GOPJ1> Someone pleas ehelp
#623 [11:34] <zombiegator98> What's wrong?
#624 [11:34] <harrys> for me, i get read time error on a tekkit server which my friend is playing without any problems
#625 [11:34] <harrys> :/
#626 [11:35] <harrys> i can log into it, play it for like 5 seconds then it lags and isn't responding for about 10 seconds. After that i just get the read timed out error
#627 [11:35] <zombiegator98> For tekkit make sure you are using the same version as your friends server!
#628 [11:36] <harrys> yeah i do
#629 [11:36] <harrys> its latest build
#630 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> ??> harrys mods
#631 [11:36] <VoxelHead> harrys: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#632 [11:36] <VoxelHead> harrys: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#633 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> GOPJ1: Only some people?
#634 [11:36] <harrys> tyteen its tekkit
#635 [11:37] <tyteen4a03> harrys: And a mod
#636 [11:37] <harrys> well i get the same error on normal minecraft servers if that makes a difference?
#637 [11:38] <tyteen4a03> harrys: Normal Minecraft servers?
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#639 [11:38] <harrys> regular bukkit servers
#640 [11:38] <harrys> >_>
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#642 [11:39] <tyteen4a03> harrys: Can you try this server: s.nerd.nu
#643 [11:39] <harrys> ok
#644 [11:39] <harrys> one second
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#647 [11:40] <zombiegator98> If You have tried everything you may want to just try and update your java version
#648 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> zombiegator98: guessing is not going to work
#649 [11:41] <harrys> hm i dont seem to be disconnecting
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#651 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> harrys: Then it's your client
#652 [11:42] <harrys> but its really laggy
#653 [11:42] <harrys> yesterday i was playing minecraft fine
#654 [11:42] <harrys> this is really obnoxious
#655 [11:42] <zombiegator98> Harry's you can give us the error your receiving by running minecraft with the command promp
#656 [11:42] <zombiegator98> Prompt*
#657 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> zombiegator98: No need
#658 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> harrys: Connection Lost: Read Time Out, correct?
#659 [11:43] <harrys> no its internal error
#660 [11:43] <harrys> internal exception java.net.socketexception read timed out
#661 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> ok
#662 [11:44] <zombiegator98> You said there were no issues yesterday right?
#663 [11:44] <harrys> yes
#664 [11:45] <Moopington> Hey, not to interrupt, but is 1.4 gHz single core enough to host an mc server? (it's an old laptop i turned into a home server)
#665 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> harrys: What Anti-virus do you have?
#666 [11:45] <harrys> i can host for 1 person moop with lag
#667 [11:45] <harrys> only AVG
#668 [11:45] <harrys> >_>
#669 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> Moopington: Windows, no
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#671 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> harrys: Disable or uninstall it
#672 [11:45] <Moopington> nah, it's a debian
#673 [11:45] <Moopington> no gui obv.
#674 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> Moopington: Then you just have to worry about overheating
#675 [11:46] <harrys> 2 secs
#676 [11:46] <Moopington> Well, is that fast enough to host it though? I'm not too worried about overheating. it's on a cooling pad
#677 [11:46] <tyteen4a03> Moopington: I don't trust cooling pads, but that's just me
#678 [11:46] <zombiegator98> Harry's? Was there any change to you computer software, the computer itself, or your network?
#679 [11:46] <tyteen4a03> Moopington: If it's 64bit and has 4GB ram it should be fine for a small server
#680 [11:46] <Boreeas> Moopington: What are the specs?
#681 [11:46] <harrys> nope zombie
#682 [11:46] <zombiegator98> Hmm ok
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#684 [11:47] <Moopington> Well, like i said, it's an old laptop. single core 1.4 gHz processor, and I'm guessing not enough ram. I was just wondering because if it's not worth upgrading the ram at that clockspeed, I won't.
#685 [11:47] <harrys> moop what ram?
#686 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> Moopington: single core... p4?
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#688 [11:48] <Moopington> It's an older intel
#689 [11:48] <Moopington> i386
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#691 [11:48] <Moopington> looking it up now
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#693 [11:48] <Moopington> Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU , 1 cores
#694 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> Moopington: I think selling it to a computer muuseum should yield higher returns
#695 [11:49] <tyteen4a03> Moopington: and anything below P4 is probably going to be crap
#696 [11:49] <Moopington> lol
#697 [11:49] <tyteen4a03> heck, I don't know if it's even 32bit
#698 [11:49] <zombiegator98> Lol
#699 [11:49] <Moopington> I figured. But it's really just a hobby thing, and i had it lying around.
#700 [11:49] <tyteen4a03> Moopington: I think it
#701 [11:49] <harrys> moop i hosted a server on a windows vps with 512mb ram / dual cpu 2ghz and it was laggy as hell
#702 [11:49] <tyteen4a03> it's probably got a slow ethernet
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#704 [11:49] <harrys> it was only for me and 3 friends and we couldnt bare the lag
#705 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> harrys: It's because you're on windows
#706 [11:50] <harrys> the vps was
#707 [11:50] <Moopington> lol. windows.
#708 [11:50] <zombiegator98> Harrys I wish you beat if luck see you all!
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#710 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> harrys: and the ram amount is /tiny/
#711 [11:50] <harrys> ok
#712 [11:50] <harrys> ok
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#715 [11:50] <harrys> ye i didnt know much about how ram effected minecraft hosting back then
#716 [11:51] <Moopington> is i386 not always 32-bit? tyteen4a03
#717 [11:52] <harrys> tyteen
#718 [11:52] <harrys> what does read timed out even mean
#719 [11:53] <Moopington> I think it means the server stopped responding
#720 [11:53] <Dr_Eggman7> I need help again. I am still recieving the error message: "Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine. Error: A fatal Exception has occured. The program will exit." I have the lateset verion of J ava and I do not know what is wrong. I even tried reinstalling java, but nothing works. What do I do now?
#721 [11:53] <harrys> really/
#722 [11:53] <Moopington> Woah. Couldn't create the jvm… 0.o
#723 [11:53] <harrys> i pinged the server im not getting any interuptions
#724 [11:54] <Moopington> well, i think it means that the client is trying to read the map off of the server, but the server isn't giving it the map, so it times out to prevent an endless loop.
#725 [11:54] <Moopington> ^har
#726 [11:54] <Moopington> lol
#727 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> harrys: It means the computer failed to get proper responses within a specified time limit
#728 [11:54] <Moopington> my tab didn't work because of the ^
#729 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> Dr_Eggman7: Has a helper assisted you before?
#730 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> Moopington: hell if I knew
#731 [11:54] <Dr_Eggman7> Yes.
#732 [11:54] <harrys> meh..
#733 [11:54] <Moopington> Well.. to wikipedia!
#734 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> Dr_Eggman7: may I ask who?
#735 [11:54] <harrys> looks like im not playing minecraft then
#736 [11:55] <Moopington> ah. x86 is 32 bit
#737 [11:55] <Moopington> so yeah.
#738 [11:55] <harrys> ye
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#740 [11:55] <Dr_Eggman7> I think it was undead or someone else.
#741 [11:56] <tyteen4a03> Dr_Eggman7: Undead...?
#742 [11:56] <Dr_Eggman7> I do not remember.
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#744 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> Dr_Eggman7: Because I am currently (literally) swamped in work, can you tell me what the helper asked you to do, and the results?
#745 [11:57] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: Think it might've been lutzee, I remember Eggman dropping in but not quite sure who else was around
#746 [11:57] * tyteen4a03 slaps Lutzee
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#747 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: I just don't remember any helper called Undead
#748 [11:58] <Dr_Eggman7> He put up a link for the Java downloads website and that was it. I tried the downloads on the website. They didn't work.
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#751 [11:59] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: The name rings a bell from somewhere...
#752 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: I know an Undead but he's not in this room
#753 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: It rings a bell too, I just have no idea
#754 [12:00] <Dr_Eggman7> Okay. CTCP?
#755 [12:00] <Lutzee> Er i can't remember everyone >.>
#756 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> Dr_Eggman7: CTCP?
#757 [12:00] <Lutzee> that was me
#758 [12:01] <Lutzee> Ignore it
#759 [12:01] <Dr_Eggman7> ok.
#760 [12:01] <FLHerne> California Tobacco Control Program? :P
#761 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: sounds like some unsuccessful crap
#762 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee: can you help Dr_Eggman7? He has an Unable to create JVM error and I am literally swamped in work
#763 [12:02] <Kanegasi> very interesting... way earlier this morning, i asked in here if anyone knew why the aux.class file gives an error when you extract any of the current minecraft .jars. turns out the filename "aux" is an invalid name in windows
#764 [12:03] <Kanegasi> i tried saving an empty txt with that name. invalid lol
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#766 [12:04] <Morrolan> Leftovers from MS-DOS.
#767 [12:04] <FLHerne> Kanegasi: Why on earth would that be invalid in Windows? :o
#768 [12:04] <Morrolan> Similar to "." and ".." (just that those still have a meaning, these days)
#769 [12:04] <Kanegasi> i have no clue. just try to save any file type as "aux". throws an error
#770 [12:04] <Kanegasi> i think its funny
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#772 [12:05] <Kanegasi> why would "aux" be invalid in dos?
#773 [12:06] <Moopington> because windows.
#774 [12:06] <Morrolan> If you're familiar with Linux, you could compare it to /dev/random etc. It was used to read data from god-knows-where, if my memory serves me right.
#775 [12:06] <Morrolan> It was before my time, if you want more precise details you'll have to check the internet, or ask some oldie. ;)
#776 [12:06] * Morrolan pokes GreyVulpine
#776 [12:06] * Morrolan giggles
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#777 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: ranomizer
#778 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> *randomizer
#779 [12:07] <Morrolan> Hey, I've found it. \o/
#780 [12:07] <Morrolan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_file#Device_files
#781 [12:07] <Morrolan> "Reads data from an auxiliary device, usually a serial port. / Sends data to an auxiliary device, usually a serial port."
#782 [12:08] <FLHerne> Morrolan: yes, but that's a specific set of files. Not just any file using that name, anywhere :P
#783 [12:08] <FLHerne> /dev/null is more fun, anyway :-)
#784 [12:09] <harrys> anyone know any fixes for read timed out?
#785 [12:09] <Morrolan> Uh, but it's a "file" which you could send to froma any folder, FLHerne. It's not located in one specific folder.
#786 [12:09] <Boreeas> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1
#787 [12:09] <Dr_Eggman7> I can come back later if you are swamped with work (Concerned, not mad). I wouldm't want anyone interupping me while I am at work either.
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#790 [12:10] <Morrolan> Dr_Eggman7 - Try to launch it with less RAM than it uses by default.
#791 [12:10] <Dr_Eggman7> How would I do that?
#792 [12:11] <FLHerne> Morrolan: Ah, lost track of what you were referring to :P Gotit :-)
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#794 [12:11] <Morrolan> Dr_Eggman7 - Grab the .jar launcher from www.minecraft.net/download
#795 [12:11] <Dr_Eggman7> okay.
#796 [12:11] <Morrolan> There will also be a command on that page, somewher after a text about "if you run into memory issues"
#797 [12:12] <Morrolan> fetch that command, and replace the "512M" in there with your desired amount of RAM. Then either create a .bat file in the same folder the .jar is in, throw the command in there and execute that one, or use the commandline directly.
#798 [12:13] <Dr_Eggman7> Still same error message.*sigh*
#799 [12:14] <Morrolan> Then it might be a Java-related issue, after all. Since I just joined this discussion rather recently, what did you try, so far'
#800 [12:14] <Morrolan> ?*
#801 [12:14] <FLHerne> dxdiag?
#802 [12:15] <FLHerne> Has Dr_Eggman7 posted any stats?
#803 [12:15] <Kanegasi> [18:01:59] <Dr_Eggman7> I have a windows xp professional, total physical memory 3GB, total virtual memory 2GB, availiable virtual memory 1.95GB, and I am still lokking for Java.
#804 [12:15] <Kanegasi> gv also gave him the link to 6u35
#805 [12:15] <skyboy> dxdiag won't help. the JVM isn't even launching correctly
#806 [12:16] <skyboy> did he completely uninstall then reinstall?
#807 [12:16] <Kanegasi> no clue, just researching when he came on last night
#808 [12:16] <FLHerne> Ok, sane amount of RAM then :P
#809 [12:17] <Dr_Eggman7> I completely uninstalled all of the versins of Java on my computer already and I downloaded the latest verion and I still get the error message.
#810 [12:18] <skyboy> try uninstalling that and installing ^u35
#811 [12:18] <Kanegasi> you are installing the 32bit version?
#812 [12:18] <skyboy> 6*
#813 [12:18] <Kanegasi> he already should be using 6u35. it was provided to him last night
#814 [12:19] <skyboy> "downloaded the latest verion"
#815 [12:19] <FLHerne> 'latest'=/=6u35
#816 [12:19] <Kanegasi> 6u35 is the lastest
#817 [12:19] <Dr_Eggman7> tried ^u35 didn't work and I am 32 bit.
#818 [12:19] <skyboy> last is 7u5 i think
#819 [12:19] <Kanegasi> *latest
#820 [12:19] <FLHerne> Kanegasi: They're on 7u* now :P
#821 [12:19] <Kanegasi> 6u35 and 7u7 are both considered the latest
#822 [12:19] <Kanegasi> i know they are on 7]
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#824 [12:20] <Kanegasi> until they stop updating 6, it is the latest
#825 [12:20] <skyboy> 7u7 is latest then, 6u35 is an older version that's just getting security updates
#826 [12:20] <FLHerne> Kanegasi: 'supported'=/='latest', too :P
#827 [12:20] <skyboy> for instance, XP still gets security updates, but would you call XP the latest version of windows?
#828 [12:20] <Kanegasi> aaanyways, is there a full error report Dr_Eggman7?
#829 [12:22] <Kanegasi> there's also a command line trick to get a printout of errors not readily reported, but not sure how to do it
#830 [12:23] <skyboy> Dr_Eggman7: did you restart after uninstalling everything and then installing 6u35?
#831 [12:23] <skyboy> Kanegasi: the JVM's crashing. i don't think it gives very detailed reports
#832 [12:24] <Kanegasi> ive seen a helper direct someone to do it. the command window prints out errors
#833 [12:24] <Dr_Eggman7> I did for verion 7u5. I do not think I did restart for 6u35.
#834 [12:24] <skyboy> i know it prints out minecraft errors in detail, but i don't know that the JVM reports anything useful
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#836 [12:26] <mrbroters30> when i download maps it not showing it in minecraft
#837 [12:27] <Dr_Eggman7> Has anyone else had my problem?
#838 [12:27] <skyboy> mrbroters30: do you mean the files for craft-able maps? or worlds?
#839 [12:27] <mrbroters30> worlds
#840 [12:27] <skyboy> Dr_Eggman7: many people. but the solution is not always the same
#841 [12:28] <skyboy> mrbroters30: did you put them in the saves folder of minecraft?
#842 [12:28] <mrbroters30> saves folder in .minecraft
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#844 [12:28] <skyboy> did you extract the zip file they likely came in?
#845 [12:29] <Dr_Eggman7> Okay. What would the problem be if the JVM won't launch and installing Java does nothing?
#846 [12:29] <mrbroters30> yes
#847 [12:29] <skyboy> did you restart minecraft?
#848 [12:29] <Fang_Ride_97> cantcan my game migrate
#849 [12:29] <mrbroters30> and when i change the name of the world i created its now changig either
#850 [12:29] <mrbroters30> yeah
#851 [12:29] <skyboy> Dr_Eggman7: i'm honestly not sure what's wrong with your install.
#852 [12:29] <Fang_Ride_97> like going from my h
#853 [12:30] <Fang_Ride_97> house to a vacation
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#855 [12:30] <FLHerne> Fang_Ride_97: Put it on a USB stick ;-)
#856 [12:31] <Dr_Eggman7> Okay. I am not sure either. Glad to know that I am not the only one.
#857 [12:31] <Fang_Ride_97> if i load the program in one system like my computer can i acess it from more tha noe computer
#858 [12:31] <skyboy> Fang_Ride_97: you can log into your account from any computer; but your saves that aren't on a MP server will need to be transported with you
#859 [12:31] <Fang_Ride_97> thanks
#860 [12:31] <Fang_Ride_97> will my severs be on it
#861 [12:32] <skyboy> i think those are stored locally too
#862 [12:32] <Fang_Ride_97> thanks
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#864 [12:33] <Fang_Ride_97> if i want to use many texture packs and mods how will i affect my computer memory
#865 [12:33] <mrbroters30> my mincraft crashed so i had to restart it
#866 [12:33] <skyboy> texture packs have no effect, but mods vary
#867 [12:33] <Necrodoom> Fang_Ride_97: how do you use more than one texture pack at the same time?
#868 [12:33] <Fang_Ride_97> i mean download many
#869 [12:34] <Fang_Ride_97> how many mods can i possibly get
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#871 [12:34] <Necrodoom> depends on the mods
#872 [12:34] <skyboy> depends on how much space your HDD has
#873 [12:34] <Necrodoom> youd have to see what the mod does
#874 [12:34] <Necrodoom> and how it works
#875 [12:34] <loldogs1337> Hello, I have a question about starting a vanilla server.
#876 [12:34] <skyboy> and not all mods play nice with each other
#877 [12:34] <Fang_Ride_97> oh thank u
#878 [12:34] <Necrodoom> to see what it does about the server
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#880 [12:35] <Fang_Ride_97> well thanks now i am deffinitley going to buy the game
#881 [12:35] <loldogs1337> I made a folder in my desktop, downloaded the minecraft server for PC, and I ran it.
#882 [12:36] <loldogs1337> Now how do I actually "open" the game?
#883 [12:36] <Fang_Ride_97> creepers are terrible bye
#884 [12:36] <skyboy> if only we worked on commission, eh Necrodoom?
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#886 [12:36] <Necrodoom> loldogs1337: you download the launcher?
#887 [12:36] <loldogs1337> Yes.
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#889 [12:36] <loldogs1337> In the download multiplayer section right?
#890 [12:36] <skyboy> loldogs1337: open minecraft normally, then log into the server on "localhost"
#891 [12:37] <Necrodoom> er, no, the normal launcher
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#893 [12:37] <Honeydew> Diggy Diggy Hole
#894 [12:37] <loldogs1337> Yes.
#895 [12:37] <Necrodoom> start it up
#896 [12:37] <Necrodoom> go multiplayer tab
#897 [12:37] <loldogs1337> Okay.
#898 [12:37] <Necrodoom> type in 127.0.0.1
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#900 [12:37] <Necrodoom> in direct connect
#901 [12:37] <Necrodoom> this connects you to your own server
#902 [12:37] <Necrodoom> for other servers, type the server IP in
#903 [12:37] <Honeydew> we will not be doing the shadow of israphel for a while watch our tekkit stuff im the boss
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#905 [12:38] <loldogs1337> Okay,
#906 [12:38] <loldogs1337> Waot.
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#908 [12:38] <loldogs1337> Ait*
#909 [12:38] <loldogs1337> Wait*
#910 [12:38] <skyboy> if you want other people to connect to your server, they need this address: http://www.whatismyip.com/
#911 [12:38] <loldogs1337> My friend wants to connect,
#912 [12:38] <skyboy> the one you get from that page, that is
#913 [12:38] <loldogs1337> The one in big letters?
#914 [12:38] <skyboy> yes
#915 [12:38] <Necrodoom> yes, but you gotta port forward first
#916 [12:38] <skyboy> only if he has a router
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#918 [12:39] <loldogs1337> I have a wirless router.
#919 [12:39] <loldogs1337> Wireless
#920 [12:39] <FLHerne> skyboy: Almost everyone does now :P
#921 [12:39] <loldogs1337> Lol.
#922 [12:39] <loldogs1337> Okay so what's this about the port forward?
#923 [12:39] <loldogs1337> How do I do this. ._.
#924 [12:39] <skyboy> you can get directions for it here: http://portforward.com/
#925 [12:40] <FLHerne> That site is appaling :-(
#926 [12:40] <skyboy> can anyone remember the MC server port?
#927 [12:40] <FLHerne> *appalling, even :-(
#928 [12:40] <skyboy> FLHerne: it's not designed very well, but it provides the information needed
#929 [12:41] <FLHerne> 25565, isn't it?
#930 [12:41] <loldogs1337> Hold on,
#931 [12:41] * skyboy shrugs
#931 [12:41] <loldogs1337> Can't my firend just type in 127.0.0.1 in direct connect?
#932 [12:41] <skyboy> no
#933 [12:41] <loldogs1337> Because he's sitting right next to me.
#934 [12:41] <skyboy> 127.0.0.1 means "this computer"
#935 [12:41] <loldogs1337> aww
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#938 [12:42] <loldogs1337> So.
#939 [12:42] <skyboy> however, if he's on the same network, that makes it easier
#940 [12:42] <loldogs1337> I just want a private server for both of us.
#941 [12:42] <FLHerne> loldogs1337: If he's using the same router, you won't need port forwarding
#942 [12:42] <loldogs1337> Yeah he's using my wireless too.,
#943 [12:42] <loldogs1337> Yay!
#944 [12:42] <loldogs1337> Lol.
#945 [12:42] <FLHerne> Simple then :-)
#946 [12:42] <skyboy> okay, you just need your LAN address
#947 [12:42] <loldogs1337> Wait.
#948 [12:42] <loldogs1337> NOOOO.
#949 [12:43] <Necrodoom> ?
#950 [12:43] <loldogs1337> We had this problem erlier..
#951 [12:43] <loldogs1337> Earlier.
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#953 [12:43] <loldogs1337> He has a macbook pro,
#954 [12:43] <loldogs1337> and I have a PC.
#955 [12:43] <skyboy> doesn't matter
#956 [12:43] <loldogs1337> And we can't LAN connect..
#957 [12:43] <loldogs1337> Okay.
#958 [12:43] <FLHerne> loldogs1337: Relevance?
#959 [12:43] <loldogs1337> I guess we can try..
#960 [12:43] <FLHerne> Ah
#961 [12:43] <Necrodoom> both use lan?
#962 [12:43] <Necrodoom> both use lan?
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#964 [12:43] <loldogs1337> So I just make my server a LAN server?
#965 [12:43] <FLHerne> Probably not related to the type of computer
#966 [12:43] <skyboy> it's already a LAN server
#967 [12:44] <skyboy> the MC server handles both LAN and WAN
#968 [12:44] <Necrodoom> loldogs1337: what happens when he connects?
#969 [12:44] <skyboy> but you still need the ip address your router gave you
#970 [12:44] <Necrodoom> just to make sure this isnt getting complicated for no reason
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#972 [12:44] <loldogs1337> What's the IP adress.
#973 [12:44] <loldogs1337> Does he type that in direct connect?
#974 [12:45] <skyboy> the LAN address normally starts with 192.168
#975 [12:45] <loldogs1337> Wait.
#976 [12:46] <Dr_Eggman7> I guess the best thing for me to do is to go do research on this error I keep having.
#977 [12:46] <Ininja> Does this IRC support minecraft pe
#978 [12:46] <loldogs1337> wAIT.
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#980 [12:46] <loldogs1337> Wait.
#981 [12:46] <loldogs1337> So.
#982 [12:46] <loldogs1337> Where do I find the IP?
#983 [12:46] <skyboy> loldogs1337: press the windows key and the "r" key at the same time, in the window that comes up type "cmd" and press enter
#984 [12:47] <skyboy> let me know when the second window is up
#985 [12:47] <FLHerne> Ininja: Minecraft pe?
#986 [12:47] <loldogs1337> A little window called "Run" popped up with "%appdata%" typed in.
#987 [12:47] <skyboy> clear that, type in "cmd"
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#989 [12:48] <Dr_Eggman7> I hope you have a great day. Bye.
#990 [12:48] <Dr_Eggman7> I hope you have a great day. Bye.
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#992 [12:48] <loldogs1337> A black window thing popped up.
#993 [12:48] <skyboy> in that window type "ipconfig" and press enter
#994 [12:48] <Necrodoom> thats the cmd.exe
#995 [12:48] <skyboy> look for a line that starts with "ip address" and has "192.168" on the same line
#996 [12:48] <loldogs1337> Okay.
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#998 [12:49] <skyboy> have your friend type that into the MC server connect box
#999 [12:49] <Ininja> <FLHerne> yeah pocket edition for ios
#1000 [12:49] <loldogs1337> I found 192.168 but it says Default Gateway behind it
#1001 [12:49] <lutzee> Note, it's comcast might be a 10.0 address
#1002 [12:49] <skyboy> there should be one above that
#1003 [12:49] <loldogs1337> The IPv4
#1004 [12:49] <FLHerne> Ininja: Oh, I see
#1005 [12:50] <loldogs1337> The IPv4 Adress?
#1006 [12:50] <skyboy> yes, but not the default gateway one
#1007 [12:50] <FLHerne> No idea if we support it, I certainly don't know anything about the mobile version :-(
#1008 [12:50] <loldogs1337> Okay.,
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#1012 [12:51] <skyboy> loldogs1337: you may need to scroll up in the window
#1013 [12:51] <loldogs1337> He typed the IP
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#1015 [12:51] <loldogs1337> In direct connect right?
#1016 [12:51] <skyboy> yes
#1017 [12:52] <loldogs1337> Okay.
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#1019 [12:52] <mrbroters30> hey you never answered my question skyboy
#1020 [12:52] <loldogs1337> It still says "Connecting to the Server..."
#1021 [12:52] <Necrodoom> loldogs1337: and then?
#1022 [12:52] <skyboy> mrbroters30: what question?
#1023 [12:52] <skyboy> loldogs1337: did he type in the one after default gateway? if so, that was wrong
#1024 [12:53] <mrbroters30> about whats wrong with my saves and .minecraft\
#1025 [12:53] <loldogs1337> He typed the IPv4 Adress.
#1026 [12:54] <loldogs1337> In the "Add Server" box
#1027 [12:55] <loldogs1337> And it says "Can't reach Server"
#1028 [12:55] <mrbroters30> nevermind i geuss it took all night to do it
#1029 [12:55] <mrbroters30> bye
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#1032 [12:55] <skyboy> what was the address he typed in?
#1033 [12:56] <loldogs1337> 192.168.0.102
#1034 [12:56] <loldogs1337> In the "Add Server" box and it says "Can't Reach Server"
#1035 [12:56] <skyboy> when he connected to the router, did he access it using the guest password, or?
#1036 [12:57] <loldogs1337> I don't know.
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#1043 [12:58] <loldogs1337> He typed in the password we use.
#1044 [12:58] <loldogs1337> To connect to the Wireless.
#1045 [12:58] <skyboy> then he should be on the LAN
#1046 [12:58] <loldogs1337> Nothing shows up when he goes on "Multiplayer"
#1047 [12:59] <skyboy> okay, is there a second set of address in the 10.0 range?
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#1049 [12:59] <loldogs1337> No.
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#1051 [12:59] <loldogs1337> The other IP I see is the 192.168.0.1
#1052 [12:59] <skyboy> try turning off your firewall, then
#1053 [13:00] <skyboy> 192.168.0.1 is your router
#1054 [13:00] <loldogs1337> But thats the Gateway IP.
#1055 [13:00] <loldogs1337> My Firewall IS off. Norton wont let me have it on.
#1056 [13:00] <skyboy> crap. norton
#1057 [13:01] <loldogs1337> I have to brb.
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#1059 [13:01] <skyboy> does someone else want to walk him through making norton play nice, or just uninstalling it?
#1060 [13:01] <skyboy> does someone else want to walk him through making norton play nice, or just uninstalling it?
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#1062 [13:01] <skyboy> it's been many years since i dealt with it
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#1068 [13:05] <Tommywat> Me and my friend have been having a null point exception error a lot on minecraft 1.3.2, we are on a privite server
#1069 [13:05] <skyboy> if it happens after several minutes/hours of regular play, report a bug on the wiki
#1070 [13:06] <skyboy> if it happens immediately, do you have any mods installed?
#1071 [13:06] <Tommywat> yes we have mods installed
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#1073 [13:07] <skyboy> this channel isn't for mod support; do you use a bukkit server?
#1074 [13:07] <skyboy> if you have no idea what a bukkit server is, go to #risucraft
#1075 [13:07] <Tommywat> no just a standard server with mods
#1076 [13:07] <undead> Do you have forge?
#1077 [13:07] <undead> server side and client side?
#1078 [13:07] <Tommywat> yes
#1079 [13:08] <skyboy> if you have forge, go to #forge
#1080 [13:08] <undead> What mods are you using
#1081 [13:08] <skyboy> undead: this channel is not for mod support
#1082 [13:08] <undead> Im helping him anyway
#1083 [13:09] <skyboy> help him in the channel #forge
#1084 [13:09] <skyboy> they're the experts on forge, that's where he needs to be
#1085 [13:09] <undead> I am a dev with forge :P
#1086 [13:09] <Tommywat> yes but in #forge there is only 1 person
#1087 [13:09] <Calinou> you don't even need to forward ports for LAN, just disable the firewall if it is being trigger-happy loldogs1337
#1088 [13:10] <Morrolan> And change Windows' networks setting, if need be.
#1089 [13:10] <Calinou> minecraft scans LAN to find servers as of 1.3
#1090 [13:10] <skyboy> undead: then direct him to the forge channel, as i apparently have no idea what it is
#1091 [13:10] <undead> its #minecraftforge
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#1093 [13:11] <undead> Tommywat #minecraftforge
#1094 [13:13] <loldogs1337> Back.
#1095 [13:13] <skyboy> Morrolan / Calinou: he may not be using 1.3 (i should've asked, really) and windows firewall isn't active
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#1097 [13:13] <loldogs1337> Now where were we?
#1098 [13:13] <loldogs1337> Ah, yes, Norton.
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#1100 [13:14] <skyboy> i do hope you said that in a sad tone
#1101 [13:14] <Tommywat> undead, i'm on it my friend is already on it talking, death_fox
#1102 [13:14] <loldogs1337> So... What do I do now?
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#1107 [13:16] <joe> i bought minecraft but when it loads the screen just goees onto a black and white screen, why?
#1108 [13:16] <skyboy> loldogs1337: disable norton if at all possible, i have a feeling that's what's blocking connections
#1109 [13:16] <joe> i dont have norton
#1110 [13:16] <skyboy> also, loldogs1337, do you have 1.3?
#1111 [13:16] <skyboy> joe: and i wasn't talking to you. see the name " loldogs1337 " at the start of my message? that's how you know.
#1112 [13:17] <joe> ahhh sorry
#1113 [13:17] <loldogs1337> I do have 1.3
#1114 [13:17] <loldogs1337> I recently bought Minecraft.
#1115 [13:18] <joe> do you know whats wrong with my minecraft?
#1116 [13:18] <loldogs1337> So does my friend have to do everything?
#1117 [13:19] <loldogs1337> Should my friend startt server instead?
#1118 [13:19] <skyboy> loldogs1337: no, you have to disable norton. 1.3 should detect it once there isn't a firewall blocking his access
#1119 [13:19] <loldogs1337> Oh.
#1120 [13:19] <skyboy> joe: sounds like a graphics issue
#1121 [13:19] <loldogs1337> I thought you menant 1.3 Minecraft.
#1122 [13:19] <joe> how do i fix that?
#1123 [13:19] <loldogs1337> Lol nevermind.
#1124 [13:19] <skyboy> ??dxdiag <
#1125 [13:19] <loldogs1337> Let me check.
#1126 [13:19] <skyboy> ??win/dxdiag <
#1127 [13:20] <skyboy> of course, i've forgotten how to use the bot
#1128 [13:20] <skyboy> Calinou: can you help joe?
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#1130 [13:21] <loldogs1337> How do I check what version of Norton do I have?
#1131 [13:22] <joe> do you know how to fix my problem?
#1132 [13:22] <skyboy> i don't think that matters. "off" should be one of the options readily available
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#1136 [13:23] <skyboy> joe: i can help diagnose it, but i've forgotten how to use the bot that'll give you detailed instructions
#1137 [13:23] <joe> can you not give me basic instructions?
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#1139 [13:23] <skyboy> ??win/dxdiag
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#1141 [13:24] <joe> can you not give me basic instructions?
#1142 [13:24] <crazilon> What is a good plugin where you can say, for example, that only ops can place/break X block?
#1143 [13:24] <skyboy> joe: press win+r and type dxdiag into the "run" dialog when it comes up
#1144 [13:24] <skyboy> joe: press win+r and type dxdiag into the "run" dialog when it comes up
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#1146 [13:25] <joe> where do i do this?
#1147 [13:25] <skyboy> where you press win+r? anywhere
#1148 [13:25] <joe> what is win+r?
#1149 [13:26] <loldogs1337> I can't desable it.
#1150 [13:26] <skyboy> the windows logo key, on your keyboard
#1151 [13:26] <skyboy> and the "r" key
#1152 [13:26] <joe> nothing is happening
#1153 [13:26] <loldogs1337> At the same time.
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#1155 [13:26] <joe> it is now
#1156 [13:27] <loldogs1337> Skybox I can't turn Norton off.
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#1158 [13:27] <joe> then what?
#1159 [13:28] <joe> after i type dxdiag
#1160 [13:28] <joe> ?
#1161 [13:28] <skyboy> press enter
#1162 [13:28] <joe> yes...
#1163 [13:28] <loldogs1337> Well, I guess we can't play..
#1164 [13:28] <skyboy> loldogs1337: i don't know how to use norton
#1165 [13:28] <loldogs1337> Thanks for trying to help.
#1166 [13:28] <loldogs1337> Bye :/
#1167 [13:29] <joe> what after i click enter a diagnostic thing cae up
#1168 [13:29] <skyboy> joe: click "save all information"
#1169 [13:29] <joe> came*
#1170 [13:29] <joe> where to?
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#1172 [13:29] <skyboy> on your desktop is fine, you need to upload the contents of the file to pastebin.com
#1173 [13:30] <joe> ok i saved it
#1174 [13:30] <joe> now...?
#1175 [13:30] <skyboy> what does the second half of my message say?
#1176 [13:31] <joe> how do i do that?
#1177 [13:31] <crazilon> http://pastebin.com
#1178 [13:31] <lutzee> Joe open the file in a text editor like notepad, highligh everything and copy it, then go to pastebin.com and paste it in the big box
#1179 [13:31] <lutzee> press submit then copy the link from the address bar back to here
#1180 [13:31] <skyboy> you open the file, you copy the text, you go to pastebin.com, you paste it in the box, you click the button to upload, and you give us the URL to the paste
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#1182 [13:34] <skyboy> lutzee: can you remind me how to use vox?
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#1184 [13:35] <lutzee> skyboy: ?? <command> or ??> <nick> <command>
#1185 [13:35] <lutzee> spaces are important
#1186 [13:35] <joe> so just copy and paste the url?
#1187 [13:35] <lutzee> yes
#1188 [13:35] <joe> http://pastebin.com/CpGQ1GRH
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#1190 [13:37] <skyboy> ?? gpu/amd
#1191 [13:37] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
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#1193 [13:37] <skyboy> joe: follow that link and update the drivers for your video card
#1194 [13:38] <lutzee> joe to make it easy for you i've found the drivers for you http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#1195 [13:38] <lutzee> You want to download the Catalyst Software Suite (75.6MB)
#1196 [13:38] <lutzee> For future referance you have a Radeon X600 Graphics card
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#1201 [13:44] <nave> help
#1202 [13:44] <nave> I just bought minecraft
#1203 [13:44] <nave> I cannot collect wood
#1204 [13:44] <nave> I am holding down on left mouse
#1205 [13:44] <skyboy> hold down the button
#1206 [13:45] <nave> I did
#1207 [13:45] <nave> help
#1208 [13:45] <skyboy> are you close enough that the breaking animation plays?
#1209 [13:45] <nave> yes
#1210 [13:45] <nave> wood pieces fly
#1211 [13:45] <skyboy> do you let the animation finish?
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#1213 [13:45] <nave> with each block?
#1214 [13:45] <skyboy> yes
#1215 [13:46] <nave> let me try that
#1216 [13:46] <skyboy> hold the button down, aiming at a single block at a time
#1217 [13:47] <nave> no
#1218 [13:47] <nave> nothing
#1219 [13:47] <nave> pieces just disappear
#1220 [13:47] <skyboy> those are just particles.
#1221 [13:47] <nave> how do we collect?
#1222 [13:47] <skyboy> hold down the button until the breaking animation finishes, it will take about 5 seconds
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#1224 [13:47] <BroBuzz> sup?
#1225 [13:48] <FLHerne> nave: Punching trees to pieces with your fists is slow :P
#1226 [13:48] <FLHerne> nave: Punching trees to pieces with your fists is slow :P
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#1228 [13:48] <nave> no
#1229 [13:48] <nave> punching is fast
#1230 [13:48] <skyboy> ...
#1231 [13:48] <nave> this is for my 9 year old son
#1232 [13:48] <skyboy> hold down the stupid button for 10 seconds and do not look at another block
#1233 [13:48] <nave> he's so upset that it won't work
#1234 [13:49] <nave> i will try that
#1235 [13:49] <skyboy> it takes time to break the block
#1236 [13:49] <nave> no
#1237 [13:49] <skyboy> those flying pieces are just particles. they're not real. you can go to options to turn off the particles so you two don't get confused.
#1238 [13:49] <nave> ok
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#1241 [13:50] <supershadowwall> hello?
#1242 [13:50] <nave> where do I turn off particles?
#1243 [13:50] <skyboy> video options
#1244 [13:50] <nave> if I stay in one place it knocks the block until it reaches the sky
#1245 [13:50] <supershadowwall> ok i need some help i deleted my .minecraft folder and redownloaded the minecraft launcher yet when i run minecraft it crashes
#1246 [13:51] <Iaccidentally> should i use java 6 or 7 for running minecraft on ubuntu 12.04?
#1247 [13:51] <supershadowwall> any suggestions or help?
#1248 [13:51] <skyboy> Iaccidentally: 6
#1249 [13:51] <Iaccidentally> ok, thought so. thanks.
#1250 [13:51] <skyboy> supershadowwall: does it display an error box?
#1251 [13:51] <supershadowwall> yes
#1252 [13:51] <lutzee> Iaccidentally: 6 or 7 does not matter, just don't use openJDK
#1253 [13:51] <supershadowwall> it doesnt download all the folders
#1254 [13:51] <supershadowwall> only the bin
#1255 [13:51] <nave> ok
#1256 [13:51] <Iaccidentally> i know not to use openjdk lol
#1257 [13:52] <nave> particles are decreased?
#1258 [13:52] <skyboy> what's the error box say, supershadowwall
#1259 [13:52] <nave> could it be my internet connection?
#1260 [13:52] <skyboy> nave: click again
#1261 [13:52] <nave> click again to what?
#1262 [13:52] <supershadowwall> idk
#1263 [13:52] <skyboy> the particles button
#1264 [13:52] <supershadowwall> i never look at it
#1265 [13:52] <lutzee> supershadowwall: are you playing the demo? or do you have AVG?
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#1267 [13:52] <supershadowwall> the crash report says probably cause of content
#1268 [13:52] <skyboy> supershadowwall: look at it, and tell us exactly what it says
#1269 [13:53] <supershadowwall> i use nortan and im not playing the demo
#1270 [13:53] <lutzee> Oh norton ._. try disabling it and try again
#1271 [13:53] <nave> still cannot get wood
#1272 [13:53] <skyboy> nave: hold the button down.
#1273 [13:53] <skyboy> do not look away.
#1274 [13:53] <skyboy> do not release the button.
#1275 [13:53] <supershadowwall> nvm its working now
#1276 [13:54] <supershadowwall> ty though
#1277 [13:54] <lutzee> nave: can you break other blocks at all?
#1278 [13:54] <supershadowwall> that is really weird it works now
#1279 [13:54] <skyboy> lutzee: he can, but he's not holding the button down long enough to break the block
#1280 [13:54] <skyboy> lutzee: he's confusing the particles with blocks
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#1282 [13:54] <nave> I can break them
#1283 [13:54] <nave> I don't move for 20 second and cannot collect
#1284 [13:55] <skyboy> move to the hovering cube, if ti exists
#1285 [13:55] <nave> I am holding and holding
#1286 [13:55] <nave> nothing
#1287 [13:56] <nave> the tree disappears
#1288 [13:56] <lutzee> er also the leaves don't drop wood, only the trunk does
#1289 [13:56] <skyboy> look at your inventory then
#1290 [13:56] <nave> i am only hitting trees
#1291 [13:57] <nave> nothing in inventory
#1292 [13:57] <nave> still empty
#1293 [13:57] <skyboy> nave, go read this website: minecraftwiki.net/
#1294 [13:57] <nave> I have
#1295 [13:57] <nave> don't know what else to do
#1296 [13:58] <lutzee> nave: are you logged into multiplayer or on single player?
#1297 [13:58] <nave> single
#1298 [13:58] <nave> creative
#1299 [13:58] <skyboy> ...
#1300 [13:59] <skyboy> don't do creative if you want to collect things like in survival
#1301 [13:59] <skyboy> the wiki will explain the difference, if you read it
#1302 [13:59] <lutzee> nave: creative mode is a mode where you break blocks instantly and they don't drop, but you can also pull infiniate amounts out of the creative inventory
#1303 [14:00] <nave> got it!!!!!
#1304 [14:00] <nave> he gets upset when he dies and didn't want to to survival
#1305 [14:01] <nave> he's been playing on the ipad version
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#1307 [14:01] <nave> time to learn, son!
#1308 [14:01] <skyboy> change the mode to peaceful
#1309 [14:01] <nave> Thanks
#1310 [14:01] <skyboy> on peaceful monsters don't spawn
#1311 [14:01] <nave> thank
#1312 [14:01] <nave> you
#1313 [14:01] <skyboy> you can still die, though
#1314 [14:01] <nave> oh he knows that
#1315 [14:01] <nave> he will get it though
#1316 [14:01] <nave> I am going to set him in front of you tube all day to learn it
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#1318 [14:03] <skyboy> doesn't the hotbar get filled with items at the start of creative, or did they remove that in 1.3?
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#1323 [14:12] <Iaccidentally> hmmmm...minecraft seems to be blackscreening for me after login. no mods, clean install of both java and client.
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#1325 [14:14] <skyboy> sounds like a graphics driver issue, Iaccidentally
#1326 [14:14] <Iaccidentally> hmmm...could be
#1327 [14:14] <Iaccidentally> will check
#1328 [14:14] <skyboy> i'm really glad *nix users know what to do
#1329 [14:14] <Iaccidentally> hehe
#1330 [14:15] <Iaccidentally> i'm running linux off a usb drive because my hard drive died.
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#1332 [14:15] <Iaccidentally> so...things are little messy lol
#1333 [14:15] <skyboy> fun
#1334 [14:15] <skyboy> i need to do a full backup of my drive before it dies
#1335 [14:16] <skyboy> over 10 years old, approaching 5 years of powered-on time
#1336 [14:16] <minengener> on the clasic version i can't connect to multyplayer
#1337 [14:16] <minengener> what should i do
#1338 [14:17] <Iaccidentally> buy the game
#1339 [14:17] <Iaccidentally> or make sure you are connecting to a server running classic
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#1341 [14:17] <minengener> i did and i can only play clasic on this computer
#1342 [14:17] <Iaccidentally> well, doesnt seem to be a graphics driver problem
#1343 [14:18] <Iaccidentally> as the driver works fine :|
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#1346 [14:18] <minengener> i think it might be a computer problem
#1347 [14:18] <hopelost9> my server isnt letting anyone on...
#1348 [14:19] <skyboy> Iaccidentally: you may need to update it anyway, it may also be lwjgl
#1349 [14:19] <minengener> i am have a problem like that to
#1350 [14:19] <Iaccidentally> ah, could be. i'll try that
#1351 [14:19] <Iaccidentally> thanks, skyboy
#1352 [14:19] <Fang_Ride_97> I downloaded the game but when i try to log in it said cant connect to minecraft.net not downloaded when i logged in on the internet i didnt even work what do i do
#1353 [14:19] <skyboy> minengener: it's not a computer problem, the server you're trying to connect to is not running classic
#1354 [14:20] <Fang_Ride_97> how do i run it
#1355 [14:20] <Fang_Ride_97> i need help
#1356 [14:20] <hopelost9> me too, wait your turn
#1357 [14:20] <Fang_Ride_97> i really want to play badly
#1358 [14:20] <Fang_Ride_97> help
#1359 [14:20] <hopelost9> shut yp
#1360 [14:20] <skyboy> Fang_Ride_97: calm down, first
#1361 [14:21] <skyboy> hopelost9: do not tell other users to shut up
#1362 [14:21] <Fang_Ride_97> kay
#1363 [14:21] <hopelost9> sorry
#1364 [14:21] <Fang_Ride_97> its okay
#1365 [14:22] <Fang_Ride_97> what do i do
#1366 [14:22] <skyboy> Fang_Ride_97: there may be some network problems between you and the mojang servers; try again in about 5 minutes
#1367 [14:22] <Fang_Ride_97> okay
#1368 [14:22] <minengener> and on my computer it keeps saying tha java has run out of memory on the full version
#1369 [14:23] <skyboy> hopelost9: your firewall is blocking connections, you may need to disable it. it could also be that your router is not set up to forward incoming connections, or that the people trying to connect have not purchased the game.
#1370 [14:23] <hopelost9> oooohhh. i forgot to port forward on this computer... thanks
#1371 [14:23] <skyboy> minengener: you need more RAM. there's no other solution
#1372 [14:23] <minengener> how
#1373 [14:23] <skyboy> you purchase it, and install it, physically, in your machine
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#1375 [14:24] <Boreeas> Fang_Ride_97: In your firewall, is java allowed to access the internet?
#1376 [14:24] <Boreeas> skyboy: Not necessarily true
#1377 [14:24] <Boreeas> minengener: How much RAM do you have?
#1378 [14:24] <skyboy> i'm betting it's 512 MB
#1379 [14:25] <Boreeas> I have seen it happening on systems with 8GB
#1380 [14:25] <minengener> thanks bye
#1381 [14:25] <Boreeas> minengener: Could you give us a dxdiag?
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#1383 [14:25] <Boreeas> ??> minengener win/dxdiag
#1384 [14:25] <VoxelHead> minengener: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1385 [14:25] <Boreeas> Blargb
#1386 [14:25] <VoxelHead> minengener: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1387 [14:25] <skyboy> Boreeas: he doesn't strike me as someone who purchased a machine with 8 GB, or installed 8 GB himself, since he didn't know what ram was
#1388 [14:25] <ninetails> hello, i don't mean to interrupt, but im gonna throw my question out there and please answer when you can. my minecraft is stopping at the done loading part in the loading screen and i have tried to redownload it and all but it still wont work can anyone help?
#1389 [14:26] <Boreeas> skyboy: But assuming that he only has 512MB is not helping, and telling him to purchase new RAM is bad
#1390 [14:26] <skyboy> ninetails: does it stop after all files are downloaded, or when a file is partially downloaded?
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#1392 [14:27] <ninetails> it sops at "done loading" but the bar isnt all the way done
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#1394 [14:27] <skyboy> ninetails: do you have AVG?
#1395 [14:27] <ninetails> What is that?
#1396 [14:28] <skyboy> it's an antivirus/firewall program
#1397 [14:29] <ninetails> i dont think so, i have norton but i turned off the firewall on it
#1398 [14:29] <Fang_Ride_97> still dont log in
#1399 [14:29] <Iaccidentally> okay, i'm stumped. ive tried both java 6 and 7, and updated graphics drivers, still blackscreens...
#1400 [14:30] <Fang_Ride_97> i have waited 5 min plz help
#1401 [14:30] <skyboy> Fang_Ride_97: it may be your firewall; Boreeas provided some instruction a few lines back
#1402 [14:30] <lutzee> Iaccidentally: updade lwjgl
#1403 [14:30] <Iaccidentally> alright, i'll try that
#1404 [14:31] <Fang_Ride_97> how do we deal with it how do i look for the firewall
#1405 [14:31] <bryceox> items hilost
#1406 [14:31] <Fang_Ride_97> i dont understand them
#1407 [14:32] <Fang_Ride_97> brb
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#1410 [14:32] <skyboy> ninetails: are you certain you have no other firewalls on the computer?
#1411 [14:33] <ninetails> uh maybe how would i check?
#1412 [14:33] <ninetails> uh maybe how would i check?
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#1414 [14:34] <bryceox> diamonds found, then hid them. next day went back to look, items gone!!! ahhh! what do i do?
#1415 [14:34] <skyboy> you and fang are in the same boat, right now. but i'm going to have to defer to someone else for helping you to find firewalls
#1416 [14:34] <skyboy> bryceox: on multiplayer?
#1417 [14:34] <bryceox> single player
#1418 [14:34] <skyboy> bryceox: did you put them in a chest?
#1419 [14:35] <ninetails> skyboy: alright who did youwant us to talk to or how does thatwork for deferring?
#1420 [14:35] <Iaccidentally> \o/ updating lwjgl fixed it
#1421 [14:35] <skyboy> ninetails: whoever has the skill to take over, but it looks like most of the other helpers are AFK right now
#1422 [14:35] <Iaccidentally> thanks lutzee
#1423 [14:36] <Iaccidentally> and skyboy
#1424 [14:36] <Fang_Ride_97> Help
#1425 [14:37] <ninetails> skyboy: oh alright ill keep this page up but im gonna go look for myself to see if i can find firewalls, thank you sky boy
#1426 [14:37] <Fang_Ride_97> Help
#1427 [14:37] <Fang_Ride_97> SHOULD I TRY ON A DIFFERENT COMPUTER
#1428 [14:37] <skyboy> Fang_Ride_97: that won't help. try your best to find the firewalls is all the advice i can give
#1429 [14:37] <bryceox> nevermind...we just found them...lol. thanks!!!!
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#1431 [14:42] <chase_> my mine craft client gets stuck on downloading packages
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#1433 [14:42] <lutzee> chase_: do you use AVG as an anti virus?
#1434 [14:42] <lutzee> -.-
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#1438 [14:45] <mib_363fgh> hellp im having trouble with my mine craft
#1439 [14:45] <Corin> mine craft
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#1441 [14:45] <mib_363fgh> ?????????
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#1444 [14:45] <FLHerne> mib_363fgh: What trouble?
#1445 [14:45] <b0ng0r55> my minecraft client is getting stuck on downloading packages how can i fix it
#1446 [14:46] <mib_363fgh> FLHerne: it doesnt start there is java error
#1447 [14:46] <b0ng0r55> so what i do?
#1448 [14:46] <FLHerne> b0ng0r55: Check your antivirus, probably
#1449 [14:46] <b0ng0r55> where could i find that
#1450 [14:47] <FLHerne> mib_363fgh: What OS and java version?
#1451 [14:47] <lutzee> b0ng0r55: do you use AVG as an anti virus?
#1452 [14:47] <mib_363fgh> FLHerne: im using windows xp
#1453 [14:47] <mib_363fgh> and how do I check java version
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#1455 [14:48] <b0ng0r55> nosame
#1456 [14:48] <b0ng0r55> same i have xp
#1457 [14:48] <Berwout> mib_363fgh open CMD.exe and typ "java -version"
#1458 [14:49] <mib_363fgh> it says java is not recognized
#1459 [14:49] <b0ng0r55> 1.7.0_07
#1460 [14:49] <Berwout> Well seems like java isn't installed right
#1461 [14:49] <mib_363fgh> ok do i reinstall
#1462 [14:50] <Berwout> That would help
#1463 [14:50] <tyteen4a03> Berwout: No
#1464 [14:50] <Berwout> tyteen4a03: no?
#1465 [14:50] <tyteen4a03> mib_363fgh: Make sure you uninstall every version of Java on the Add/Remove Programs screen, then only install Java 6 update 35
#1466 [14:50] <tyteen4a03> Berwout: It simply means Java is not in the PATH
#1467 [14:50] <tyteen4a03> Berwout: This happens
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#1469 [14:51] <Berwout> tyteen4a03: Normaly in %windir%\system32 a program called java.exe will be installed. If it is missing you can call it a failed install if you ask me ^-^
#1470 [14:52] <tyteen4a03> Berwout: Never heard of this
#1471 [14:52] <mib_363fgh> tyteen4a03: it says thats the one I have installed
#1472 [14:52] <b0ng0r55> are you sure this will work?
#1473 [14:52] <ninetails> hi im back, does anyone know how to check to see what firewalls i have?
#1474 [14:52] <osuka_> my minecraft doesn't open what do i do
#1475 [14:52] <Berwout> tyteen4a03: Or i have a special java xD
#1476 [14:52] <FLHerne> osuka_: Depends why it doesn't open ;-)
#1477 [14:52] <tyteen4a03> Berwout: hmm, I guess you are right, but it could just be a symbolic link
#1478 [14:53] <Fang_Ride_97> HOW DO I FIND FIREWALLS SKYBOY
#1479 [14:53] <osuka_> I click minecraft and i log in but then it closes
#1480 [14:53] <Berwout> tyteen4a03: it is do you press a button to get my name like that?
#1481 [14:53] <osuka_> something about java
#1482 [14:53] <tyteen4a03> Berwout: Tab Complete?
#1483 [14:53] <FLHerne> osuka_: Exact error, please... :P
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#1485 [14:53] <Berwout> tyteen4a03: Complete? D:
#1486 [14:53] <FLHerne> Fang_Ride_97: Your capslock key is stuck ;-)
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#1488 [14:53] <osuka_> dunno it flashes too fast ._.
#1489 [14:53] <osuka_> can't get the error
#1490 [14:54] <Berwout> osuka_ does it generate a error/crash log?
#1491 [14:54] <Fang_Ride_97> OH SORry
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#1493 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> Berwout: you type in the first few letters of a user, then hit tab
#1494 [14:54] <Berwout> tyteen4a03: Thanks!
#1495 [14:54] <osuka_> berwout it does but it's too fast
#1496 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> probably shouldn't go off-topic right now, enjoy the crowd ;)
#1497 [14:54] <Berwout> osuka_: i mean on your desktop
#1498 [14:54] <mib_363fgh> i installed java 6 35 but it didnt work
#1499 [14:54] <mib_363fgh> it still does the same eror
#1500 [14:54] <osuka_> bernout nope. I just installed a mod, I think that's it
#1501 [14:54] <Berwout> osuka_: what mod?
#1502 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> ??> osuka_ mods
#1503 [14:54] <minengener> i just started a server and i need a little help to see if it is connecting
#1504 [14:54] <VoxelHead> osuka_: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1505 [14:54] <VoxelHead> osuka_: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1506 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> minengener: Give us the IP
#1507 [14:54] <Fang_Ride_97> Help
#1508 [14:54] <Fang_Ride_97> Help
#1509 [14:54] <osuka_> oh ok.
#1510 [14:54] <osuka_> oh ok.
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#1512 [14:54] <minengener> http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play/79dcd1124001793a4dce0d2aabcc1179
#1513 [14:55] <Fang_Ride_97> Help
#1514 [14:55] <Fang_Ride_97> Help
#1515 [14:55] <Fang_Ride_97> Help
#1516 [14:55] <Fang_Ride_97> Help
#1517 [14:55] <Fang_Ride_97> Help
#1518 [14:55] <FLHerne> Fang_Ride_97: Quit it :-(
#1519 [14:55] <ninetails> im in the same boat as fang right now : P
#1520 [14:55] <minengener> yes fang
#1521 [14:55] * ChanServ kicked Fang_Ride_97 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ang_Ride_97 :(tyteen4a03) No, spamming Help will get you nowhere.)
#1522 [14:55] <Berwout> tyteen4a03: you'r a admin?
#1523 [14:55] <FLHerne> It's called not enough people to answer questions, especially when we have to spend ages typing sarcastic replies at spammers :-(
#1524 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> oops, I guess he stopped before I issued a kick
#1525 [14:56] <minengener> can any one get on it
#1526 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> Berwout: I'm a voiced person, not an admin
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#1528 [14:56] <ninetails> he was asking the same question i had which was how to check to see what firewalls you have on your computer
#1529 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> ninetails: Normally only Windows Firewall should be present
#1530 [14:57] <Berwout> tyteen4a03: I'm a support guru moderator ^-^
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#1532 [14:57] <ninetails> yeah and thats turned off but im still having the same problem
#1533 [14:57] <tyteen4a03> Berwout: Support guru?
#1534 [14:57] <mib_363fgh> i installed java 6 35 but it didnt work it still does the same eror
#1535 [14:57] <Fang_Ride_97> Hi
#1536 [14:57] <tyteen4a03> Fang_Ride_97: Please behave this time
#1537 [14:57] <Fang_Ride_97> Kay
#1538 [14:57] <tyteen4a03> Other firewall solutions include ZoneAlarm and those built-into the AntiVirus
#1539 [14:57] <minengener> somthing is going wrong with my server
#1540 [14:57] <mib_363fgh> it says could not reserve the heap
#1541 [14:57] <minengener> clasic version
#1542 [14:57] <tyteen4a03> skyboy: Fang_Ride_97 is looking for you
#1543 [14:57] <FLHerne> minengener: Dunno if we support classic here :-(
#1544 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> minengener: We don't support classic, however I still provide limited support
#1545 [14:58] <Fang_Ride_97> So how do i fix my game so i can play
#1546 [14:58] <ninetails> also i dont have an antivirus so thats not a prblem either
#1547 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: We don't officially support classic, but you can offer help if you can
#1548 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> Fang_Ride_97: I don't know your situation, so you will have to wait for skyboy
#1549 [14:58] <Fang_Ride_97> it sucks not being able to play okay i will wait
#1550 [14:59] <mib_363fgh> tyteen4a03 i installed that java but it still doesnt work
#1551 [14:59] <tyteen4a03> mib_363fgh: You installed what?
#1552 [14:59] <Berwout> Anyone need my personal help i would like to help via PM. ^-^
#1553 [14:59] <mib_363fgh> that java you told me to install
#1554 [14:59] <FLHerne> Fang_Ride_97: Your firewall is probably blocking Minecraft from accessing minecraft.net. Stop it from doing that ;-)
#1555 [14:59] <Fang_Ride_97> how
#1556 [15:00] <Fang_Ride_97> ;)
#1557 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> ??> Berwout dont/pm
#1558 [15:00] <VoxelHead> Berwout: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1559 [15:00] <ninetails> i would like hep berwout
#1560 [15:00] <minengener> i can't even connect to my own server
#1561 [15:00] <Berwout> hmm didn't know
#1562 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> mib_363fgh: I don't remember talking to you... were you talking to Berwout?
#1563 [15:00] <Fang_Ride_97> are u and tyteen in charge of the chat
#1564 [15:00] * FLHerne is not a Windows user.
#1564 [15:00] <Berwout> ninetails: What's the problem?
#1565 [15:00] <FLHerne> Anyone here know about Windows antivirus/firewalls for Fang?
#1566 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> Fang_Ride_97: I am currently the active helper, so I guess
#1567 [15:00] <mib_363fgh> tyteen4a03 you told me to uninstall all javas and only install 6 35
#1568 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: Control Panel, search for Firewall?
#1569 [15:01] <tyteen4a03> mib_363fgh: Oh right, so it still didn't work?
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#1571 [15:01] <mib_363fgh> no it does same thing
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#1574 [15:01] <ninetails> Berwout: my minecraft stops loading at "done loading" but isnt complete and my firewall is turned off and all and i have tried reinstalling but it still doest work
#1575 [15:01] <Fang_Ride_97> i have an hp does that affect anything
#1576 [15:01] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: I don't have a Control Panel to search in :P . Wrong OS ;-)
#1577 [15:02] <FLHerne> Fang_Ride_97: Probably not
#1578 [15:02] <Berwout> ninetails: at the end there's a little piece of the bar that isn't filled?
#1579 [15:02] <Fang_Ride_97> im pretty sure it is running windows
#1580 [15:02] <ninetails> yes
#1581 [15:02] <Fang_Ride_97> can i bypass my firewall
#1582 [15:02] <Fang_Ride_97> so i can play
#1583 [15:02] <Berwout> ninetails: That's caused by a corrupted/invailed minecraft.jar
#1584 [15:02] <tyteen4a03> mib_363fgh: Because I didn't know your problem at first (I just picked up your case), can you tell me your problem again?
#1585 [15:02] <ninetails> Berwout: how do i fix that?
#1586 [15:03] <mib_363fgh> i get java error when i start mine craft
#1587 [15:03] <Fang_Ride_97> i bought minecraft at about 11:33
#1588 [15:03] <mib_363fgh> something about could not server heap
#1589 [15:03] <Berwout> ninetails: Well force update should fix it but as it didn't you can try and clear .minecraft folder (backup saves folder)
#1590 [15:03] <FLHerne> Fang_Ride_97: Sorry, I don't use Windows, so I wouldn't know :P . Try configuring it in the control panel like tyteen4a03 suggested...
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#1592 [15:04] <ninetails> Berwout: i did that too and then redownloaded the whole thing but it still doesnt work, its like the files arent een there
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#1594 [15:04] <Berwout> ninetails: What do you mean with "like the files aren't in there"
#1595 [15:04] <Yerg> ninetails: has mine craft ever worked before?
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#1597 [15:05] <mib_363fgh> :-(
#1598 [15:05] <Berwout> Yerg: mind takeing it over? from me?
#1599 [15:05] <ninetails> no i just got it a while ago, and i dont know what files are suppose to be there, but theres only one thing : P\
#1600 [15:05] <Yerg> I think I already know the problem
#1601 [15:05] <FLHerne> It's rather busy in here, isn't it :P
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#1603 [15:05] <Yerg> ninetails: windows, yes?
#1604 [15:05] <ninetails> oh what?
#1605 [15:05] <ninetails> yes
#1606 [15:06] <Berwout> I'm leaveing can't handly 6 diverent irc's X.x
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#1609 [15:06] <Yerg> ninetails: what version?
#1610 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> mib_363fgh: I feel terribly sorry for your inability to play, however I have too much on my plate right now and I just offered you a wall to punch at
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#1612 [15:06] <ninetails> uh 2003 i think : P
#1613 [15:06] <mib_363fgh> ok well
#1614 [15:06] <mib_363fgh> im secretly wug
#1615 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, okay. I can type faster here.
#1616 [15:07] <mib_363fgh> GreyVulpine probably knew immediately
#1617 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> ninetails - Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in %userprofile%
#1618 [15:07] <ninetails> Yerg: 2003 i think : P
#1619 [15:07] <mib_363fgh> I was emulating a 32 bit memory issue
#1620 [15:07] * FLHerne is confused now :P
#1620 [15:07] <ninetails> yerg: kay then what?
#1621 [15:07] <ninetails> yerg: kay then what?
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#1623 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> ninetails - Press enter, tell me if the folder's name it takes you to, has a ! symbol in it
#1624 [15:08] <ninetails> none of them do
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#1627 [15:09] <mib_wugwug> tyteen4a03: <3
#1628 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> I'm just looking for one folder in particular. Your user profile folder, the one it takes you to when you put in %userprofile% in your search bar and press enter
#1629 [15:09] * mib_wugwug dodges GreyVulpine bap
#1629 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> ninetails - Also, this would be the same folder that contains your windows username
#1630 [15:09] * GreyVulpine kicks mib_wugwug
#1630 [15:09] <tyteen4a03> mib_wugwug: <3 to you too
#1631 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> ninetails - A different way of asking the question would be, does your windows username have a ! symbol in it?
#1632 [15:10] <mib_wugwug> ninetails: or, has it ever in the past, had a ! in it.
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#1634 [15:10] <ninetails> no i dont think it ever has but the folders comeing up are like my desktop and stuff
#1635 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Look at the very top, what folder did it take you to?
#1636 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> What is the username at the top?
#1637 [15:11] <ninetails> desktop
#1638 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> What is before 'desktop'?
#1639 [15:12] <ninetails> thats the top folder
#1640 [15:12] <ninetails> nothing
#1641 [15:12] <ninetails> oh well theres a file named Y9Y9 but i dont know what that is at all
#1642 [15:12] <ninetails> and thats below it
#1643 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Okay, let's try this.
#1644 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Download the file that VoxelHead's going to tell you and try it.
#1645 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/!
#1646 [15:13] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#1647 [15:13] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#1648 [15:13] <ninetails> kay
#1649 [15:14] <ninetails> it stopped at downloading packages and hasnt moved
#1650 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Where does it stop at?
#1651 [15:15] <ninetails> downloading pakages, it hasnt even started just downloading pakages
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#1653 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> What antivirus do you run?
#1654 [15:16] <ninetails> well i had norton but it expired
#1655 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Anythign else?
#1656 [15:17] <ninetails> well i have wondows firewall but thats turned off and it says there is no antivirus to be found
#1657 [15:17] <ninetails> windows not wondows
#1658 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
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#1660 [15:20] <ninetails> oh but what confused me was that, that download you sent me was blocked but that little bar that comes down from the top and i had to press allow to let it through
#1661 [15:20] <ninetails> does that mean i have something blocking it?
#1662 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> It sounds like it.
#1663 [15:21] <ninetails> what if i completly uninstall norton?
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#1665 [15:21] <ninetails> think thatll work?
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#1667 [15:22] <FLHerne> ninetails: That might be a bad idea from other perspectives ;-)
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#1671 [15:22] <ninetails> its expired though and doesnt protect my computer technically
#1672 [15:24] <ninetails> greyvulpine: any other ideas?
#1673 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. one moment
#1674 [15:24] <Cheese300000> Every time i try to open minecraft i get a message that says that minecraft is damaged. This makes it so that i can not open minecraft. I even got my computer re imaged and it still says it's damaged. Help me please.
#1675 [15:24] <ninetails> oh alright
#1676 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Cheese300000 - Mac?
#1677 [15:24] <Cheese300000> tyes
#1678 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> ??> Cheese300000 mac/gatekeeper
#1679 [15:24] <VoxelHead> Cheese300000: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
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#1681 [15:24] <Cheese300000> thank you so much
#1682 [15:24] <Morrolan> That error message is that characteristic, I don't even bother to ask whether they are using OSX, these days.
#1683 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> ninetails - Go to http://www.minecraft.net/play to get to the online in-browser version of minecraft
#1684 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Once it starts to load, you should see a white coffee cup icon in your system tray, in the lower right, near your clock. Right click on it, then choose the java console.
#1685 [15:25] <ninetails> kay
#1686 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Wait for it to stop, then copy everything in the java console to http://www.pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the URL
#1687 [15:26] <ninetails> kay one sec
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#1689 [15:28] <ninetails> greyvulpine: http://pastebin.com/Wp6RuB5z
#1690 [15:29] <Cheese300000> thank you sooooooo much it worked
#1691 [15:29] <arkygeek> I have mineos running. working ok :-) I have two world folders in the server. when I go to mapping it only generates png's for one of them
#1692 [15:30] <arkygeek> the one it works for is shipwrecked. the other is one we moved over from another server.
#1693 [15:30] <arkygeek> anyone know of anything I can try? I really want a map of the other world
#1694 [15:31] <ninetails> greyvulpine: think theres something wrong with it?
#1695 [15:31] <Cheese300000> you guys are smarter than geniuses
#1696 [15:31] <Cheese300000> you guys are smarter than geniuses
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#1698 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> ninetails - hmm. Doesn't tell me anything there
#1699 [15:32] <ninetails> think my computer is just old? haha
#1700 [15:34] <ninetails> sorry im running out of ideas, ive tried updating my javas to 6 part 35 and all others are deleted but that didnt do anything
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#1702 [15:35] <ninetails> unless theres a secret firewall i dont know about thn im stumped
#1703 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> It sounds like a program is blocking it.
#1704 [15:37] <ninetails> yeah but i dont know how to find it
#1705 [15:37] <ninetails> if there is one anyway
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#1707 [15:38] <joeydev> hello :D
#1708 [15:39] <tyteen4a03> hi joeydev
#1709 [15:39] <joeydev> If anyone needs help just shout it out and we will help :D
#1710 [15:40] <piyo> thankyou
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#1712 [15:40] <joeydev> hello :D
#1713 [15:40] <ninetails> well me and greyvulpine are stuck on a problem : P
#1714 [15:40] <joeydev> no prob :D
#1715 [15:40] <joeydev> ok and what is that problem?
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#1717 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> stuck downloading
#1718 [15:41] <ninetails> well my minecraft seems to be being blocked by a program but i dont know how to find it
#1719 [15:41] <ninetails> yeah
#1720 [15:41] <joeydev> hello ac3xx :D
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#1722 [15:41] <joeydev> oh ok
#1723 [15:41] <Fang_Ride_97> Can i get a fefund
#1724 [15:41] <ac3xx> joeydev, hm?
#1725 [15:41] <Fang_Ride_97> refund
#1726 [15:42] <ac3xx> hi? :P
#1727 [15:42] <Fang_Ride_97> i have paid money but i cant run minecraft and a email said the transaction was complete
#1728 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> fang - see http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
#1729 [15:43] <Fang_Ride_97> but minecraft dosent work
#1730 [15:43] <FLHerne> Fang_Ride_97: You've been here at least twice before, you've been tol what's wrong with it :-(
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#1732 [15:45] <ninetails> oh sad day
#1733 [15:46] <ninetails> haha well greyvulpine any last minute ideas?
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#1736 [15:46] <joeydev> <---- back
#1737 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> stick around, maybe somebody else has an idea
#1738 [15:46] <ninetails> oh hi haha
#1739 [15:46] <joeydev> sorry My internet goofed up
#1740 [15:47] <joeydev> When you buy Minecraft you buy 1 full copy of the game client and you also get your own user account
#1741 [15:47] <joeydev> so what is the exact issue?
#1742 [15:47] <ninetails> for me or fang?
#1743 [15:47] <joeydev> idk anyone
#1744 [15:47] <joeydev> Im just here to help :D
#1745 [15:47] <ninetails> kay haha well then maybe you canhelp me
#1746 [15:48] <joeydev> ok sweet :D
#1747 [15:48] <ninetails> one sec ill type up the problem
#1748 [15:48] <joeydev> ok cool :D
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#1750 [15:49] <Boreeas> joeydev: You don't pay for the game client, you can download that as often and on as many computers as you want
#1751 [15:49] <Boreeas> All you pay for is the premium status of your account
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#1753 [15:50] <joeydev> <----- back
#1754 [15:50] <ninetails> joeydev: alright well my loading screen is stuck at downloading pakages, no percentage or anything, just downloading packages. and me and greyvulpine have tried some stuffalready but nothing seems to work. i have windows firewall but is turned off, i also have norton but thats expired, i wasnt sure if i should uninstall it now or not. well anyway im out of ideas...
#1755 [15:51] <ninetails> and my java is updated correctly
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#1757 [15:51] <joeydev> ninetails, I recommend that you uninstall your Norton and install Avast, it is a free Antivirus program that works great.
#1758 [15:51] <ninetails> we think there may be one more program blocking it but we dont know how to find it
#1759 [15:52] <ninetails> oh okay ill try it
#1760 [15:52] <joeydev> Also do you have the latest Java?
#1761 [15:52] <ninetails> yeah i have java 6 part 35
#1762 [15:52] <joeydev> oh thats outdated go to java's website and update your java
#1763 [15:52] <joeydev> you should have Java 7 blablabla
#1764 [15:53] <ninetails> ill try it
#1765 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Java 6 should still work
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#1768 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> It's actually the other way around for some, java 7 will screw up minecraft, when 6 will work.
#1769 [15:54] <joeydev> ya but it's always good to have the most up to date java
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#1771 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Not always for minecraft.
#1772 [15:54] <joeydev> haha
#1773 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Stick around for a few months here, you'll find that out quickly.
#1774 [15:54] <joeydev> anyways nine just uninstall Norton and install Avast for now and see if that fixes it
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#1779 [16:01] <Morrolan> Avast, hah.
#1780 [16:01] <Morrolan> Use MSE or Avira, if you want something which doesn't break every other time. ;)
#1781 [16:02] <Morrolan> Then again, the AV debate is nearly as bad as the OS one anyway. ^.^
#1782 [16:03] <piyo> Yeah "Avast" fell out of favor a while ago...?
#1783 [16:03] <Morrolan> It would seem so.
#1784 [16:04] <Morrolan> The one AV software which really causes issues with Minecraft is AVG, though.
#1785 [16:04] <piyo> i dont have the PC (windows) version of MC yet
#1786 [16:04] <piyo> but does this mean you need a Jave 6 launcher program?
#1787 [16:04] <Morrolan> Ah. :)
#1788 [16:05] <piyo> so that yer java 7 doesn't run?
#1789 [16:05] <Morrolan> Uh, if you have both, Java 6 and Java 7 installed at the same time, and Minecraft does not work with Java 7, then you might need to create a .bat / .sh file to manually launch it with Java 6.
#1790 [16:06] <piyo> oh.
#1791 [16:06] <piyo> i thought there was a launcher for newbs
#1792 [16:07] <Morrolan> Since Java can be installed pretty much anywhere on your computer, that would do more harm than good.
#1793 [16:07] <Morrolan> Especially since a .bat file to launch it with the correct version of Java isn't terribly complicated.
#1794 [16:07] <piyo> i would assume that java has registered it's presence in the Registry
#1795 [16:07] <piyo> its
#1796 [16:08] <piyo> so you can get a nice list of which ones
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#1798 [16:08] <piyo> but in any case yeah batch files i do those too
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#1800 [16:09] <Morrolan> Storing anything in the registry has kind of gone out of fashion.
#1801 [16:09] <Morrolan> Java's installer will add the path to java to the PATH environment variable, but if you install Java 7 that one will point to the Java 7 installation, obviously, which makes Java applications use Java 7 by default.
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#1807 [16:17] <ninetails> hey greyvulpine you there?
#1808 [16:18] <ninetails> or joeydev?
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#1810 [16:18] <nicnar> how do you install the plane mod?
#1811 [16:19] <lutzee> ??> nicnar mods
#1812 [16:19] <VoxelHead> nicnar: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1813 [16:19] <VoxelHead> nicnar: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1814 [16:19] <nicnar> thanks
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#1816 [16:20] <noahcrawford> Hey, I know for a fact that Minecraft Mods are unable to run on Toshiba Brand computers. I am wondering if there are any types of mods that are known to be able to run on Toshibas.
#1817 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Wait, what?
#1818 [16:21] <ninetails> hi grey : ) i have ye another question for you
#1819 [16:21] <lutzee> noahcrawford: that fact is false
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#1821 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Fire away
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#1824 [16:23] <ninetails> greyvulpine : alright so i accidently closed this out and went to that in broswer game yu had me open... well it loaded fully haha, so could it be that my loading screen just takes forever and i have like horrible connection or something that my computer would just load it insanly slow?
#1825 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Could be either, could be your computer being slow, or could be it being old..
#1826 [16:24] <ninetails> well i have 2003 microsoft word installed on here so im guessing my computer is just old haha
#1827 [16:24] <noahcrawford> I have spent many nights trying to get mods to work on my toshiba, and i have done all the different ways without flaws. On the internet, other toshiba owners have the same problems. I asked so people, and they said mods just dont work on toshibas
#1828 [16:24] <ninetails> well grey i thank you for everything youve gone. you are amaing and very patient : ) thank you again!
#1829 [16:24] <ninetails> done not gone
#1830 [16:25] <lutzee> well noahcrawford i own a toshiba netbook and mods work just fine
#1831 [16:25] <ninetails> amazing not amaing
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#1833 [16:25] <noahcrawford> Really? what steps do you use to get mods installed? do u do it the normal way?
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#1835 [16:26] <ninetails> grey, is there anyway to leave you like a really cool positive feedback or something : )?
#1836 [16:26] <lutzee> I use a custom launcher and mods i know aren't coded buy 14 year olds following tutorials :)
#1837 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> ninetails - There is not, unfortunately.
#1838 [16:27] <skyboy> hm
#1839 [16:27] <ninetails> haha alright well thanks again you are awesome
#1840 [16:27] <skyboy> GreyVulpine++
#1841 [16:27] <noahcrawford> Oh, u use a custom launcher? Which one (I have tried many...)?
#1842 [16:27] <skyboy> nothing counts those, i suppose
#1843 [16:27] <lutzee> MultiMC
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#1846 [16:27] <ninetails> and skyboy your awesome too i thank you for helping me when i firstcame in : )
#1847 [16:27] <skyboy> noahcrawford: mods work on any computer that has minecraft. but the mod must work in the first place
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#1850 [16:28] <noahcrawford> It might be certain brands of Toshiba or something, because many other toshiba minecrafters never get to use mods
#1851 [16:28] <ruthie> i need help, everytime i log into a world and press e and then press e again to come out of inventory it crashes, also s makes me walk backwards
#1852 [16:28] <ruthie> i need help, everytime i log into a world and press e and then press e again to come out of inventory it crashes, also s makes me walk backwards
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#1854 [16:29] <noahcrawford> And i have tried many mods
#1855 [16:29] <TC_> I can't download the game to my computer and I can't launch it in the web.
#1856 [16:29] <skyboy> noahcrawford: the make/model does not mean anything. neither does the operating system.
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#1858 [16:29] <skyboy> noahcrawford: if you can run minecraft, you can mod minecraft. there is no ifs and or buts about it.
#1859 [16:30] <TC_> I can't download the game to my computer and I can't launch it in the web.
#1860 [16:30] <noahcrawford> I heard it had something to do with the protection but idk. it is no lie though that many toshiba users cannot get mods to work
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#1862 [16:30] <noahcrawford> Ok, thanks, i will try MultiMC and tell u if i can get it to work
#1863 [16:30] <skyboy> noahcrawford: it does not matter what you heard. it is wrong. if you can run minecraft, you can mod minecraft. end of.
#1864 [16:30] <ruthie> i need help, everytime i log into a world and press e and then press e again to come out of inventory it crashes, also s makes me walk backwards, please help, purchased the game and cant play it
#1865 [16:31] <noahcrawford> It is not what i have heard. It is what many have experienced.
#1866 [16:31] <noahcrawford> but i dont care
#1867 [16:31] <lutzee> er ruthie sounds like you key config is broken
#1868 [16:31] <skyboy> ruthie: s is supposed to make you walk backwards
#1869 [16:32] <ruthie> think s is meant to make you go forward
#1870 [16:32] <lutzee> ??> ruthie forceupdate
#1871 [16:32] <VoxelHead> ruthie: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1872 [16:32] <VoxelHead> ruthie: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1873 [16:32] <skyboy> w is meant to make you walk forwards
#1874 [16:32] <lutzee> ruthie: w is forward
#1875 [16:32] <ruthie> ok
#1876 [16:32] <ruthie> ill try that
#1877 [16:32] <ruthie> ty
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#1880 [16:35] <ruthie> nope that didnt work
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#1882 [16:35] <ruthie> nothing happened when i pressed w and when i pressed e to come out of inventory it crashed
#1883 [16:35] <BlackMoons> s making you walk backwards is a known bug, you should turn your keyboard upside down and press w instead
#1884 [16:36] <osuka_> rofl
#1885 [16:36] <osuka_> also if you press esc, some random boxes appear with some codes
#1886 [16:36] <osuka_> jeb's working on it as well
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#1888 [16:37] <GamerEast> Why when i try to connect to a server it says it cant reach the server
#1889 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> What server are you trying to connect to?
#1890 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> What server are you trying to connect to?
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#1892 [16:38] <osuka_> Have you checked the port, and that the server is up?
#1893 [16:39] <ruthie> how do i even get to play this game on laptop ???????????????????
#1894 [16:39] <skyboy> i guess it was a friend's server, and his computer was just turned off or something
#1895 [16:39] <osuka_> ruthie just as you'd play on a desktop, just the same
#1896 [16:40] <osuka_> ruthie just download minecraft and run the app... simple as that
#1897 [16:40] <skyboy> ruthie: did you do a force update like VoxelHead told you?
#1898 [16:41] <ruthie> ive done that easy enough, and yes i did but everytime i go into a world and click e for inventory it works but when i click e again it again it crashes
#1899 [16:41] <skyboy> post the error that comes up on pastebin.com
#1900 [16:41] <osuka_> ruthie try hitting esc to close
#1901 [16:41] <ruthie> ive updates java etc and even rename minecraft as a java file to see if that worked but no such luck
#1902 [16:42] <osuka_> try hitting esc to close the inventory screen instead of e
#1903 [16:42] <ruthie> it crashed
#1904 [16:42] <skyboy> ruthie: post that error on pastebin.com
#1905 [16:43] <osuka_> http://www.pastebin.com/
#1906 [16:43] <osuka_> hyperlinks for everyone :3
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#1908 [16:43] <ruthie> omg is that meant to confuse me lol
#1909 [16:44] <skyboy> ruthie: do you see the error screen?
#1910 [16:44] <ruthie> yeah
#1911 [16:44] <skyboy> copy the error text, go to http://pastebin.com/ and post the error in the box, then click submit; give the resulting URL to us
#1912 [16:45] <ruthie> all of the text?
#1913 [16:45] <noahcrawford> brb
#1914 [16:45] <osuka_> all of it
#1915 [16:45] <skyboy> all.
#1916 [16:45] <ruthie> ok
#1917 [16:46] <ruthie> all done
#1918 [16:46] <skyboy> did you click submit?
#1919 [16:46] <ruthie> yep
#1920 [16:47] <skyboy> now copy the the text from the address bar and paste it here
#1921 [16:47] <ruthie> http://pastebin.com/hFdRrkXX
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#1923 [16:48] <skyboy> hm
#1924 [16:49] <osuka_> buffer size issues?
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#1926 [16:49] <ruthie> which means/
#1927 [16:49] <ruthie> ?
#1928 [16:49] <osuka_> dunno yet
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#1930 [16:49] <ruthie> ok lol
#1931 [16:49] <osuka_> we're trying to figure that out right now, lol
#1932 [16:50] <xbonesx> hi, im having problems having someone join my lan game, could someone help me please
#1933 [16:50] <ruthie> ok thank you :)
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#1935 [16:50] <osuka_> xbonesx what's your problem mate?
#1936 [16:50] <osuka_> skybor Also what are your thoughts on it?
#1937 [16:50] <xbonesx> i have the same type of firewall on each computer, both have been disabled to rule that out
#1938 [16:50] <xbonesx> the searching for lan worlds doesnt pick up the hosted game i have
#1939 [16:50] <osuka_> OK, OK
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#1941 [16:51] <xbonesx> everytime i host the game i get a different port and im not enabling DMZ or trying to mirror every port the MC uses, that would be insane on both accounts
#1942 [16:51] <osuka_> wait, wait
#1943 [16:51] <xbonesx> k
#1944 [16:51] <osuka_> are you on different houses?
#1945 [16:52] <xbonesx> no lan
#1946 [16:52] <xbonesx> sitting right next to each other both connect via cable
#1947 [16:52] <osuka_> ...
#1948 [16:52] <osuka_> Have you enabled it?
#1949 [16:52] <xbonesx> in game menu, yes
#1950 [16:53] <osuka_> uhh
#1951 [16:53] <skyboy> ruthie: you didn't do the force update like you were instructed
#1952 [16:53] <ruthie> i did too
#1953 [16:53] <osuka_> xbonesx I'm not sure what your problem is...
#1954 [16:53] <ShaRose> skyboy is ruthie the guy with that problem you said?
#1955 [16:53] <skyboy> indeed
#1956 [16:54] <osuka_> ruthie Open Minecraft, click Options and Force Update
#1957 [16:54] <xbonesx> one note i might add (this wasn't affected when hosting 1.2.5 servers) i have two networks; one is to a phone for tethering while the other one is a physical router, the ipv4 settings for the local connection are set static without the deafult gateway entered so that the net defaults to the wireless connection
#1958 [16:54] <osuka_> OK and login
#1959 [16:54] <ShaRose> ruthie you get that exception when closing inventory in creative mode, right?
#1960 [16:54] <ruthie> doing it again now
#1961 [16:54] <osuka_> ok
#1962 [16:54] <ShaRose> and stop telling him to force update that won't help it
#1963 [16:54] <osuka_> ShaRose don't know if survival or creative
#1964 [16:54] <lutzee> ??> ruthie win/reinst
#1965 [16:54] <VoxelHead> ruthie: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1966 [16:54] <VoxelHead> ruthie: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1967 [16:55] <ruthie> crashed
#1968 [16:55] <osuka_> ugh
#1969 [16:55] <ruthie> in creative mode
#1970 [16:55] <osuka_> have you tried survival?
#1971 [16:55] <ruthie> ill try survival
#1972 [16:56] <xbonesx> anyone know why im unable to host a lan game? hosted via local connection
#1973 [16:56] <lutzee> xbonesx: disable any firewalls
#1974 [16:56] <xbonesx> both computers use the same firewall and to rule it out both have been disabled
#1975 [16:57] <osuka_> rule to minecraft.exe or java?
#1976 [16:57] <xbonesx> to java.exe
#1977 [16:57] <xbonesx> if i have the firewall on
#1978 [16:57] <xbonesx> but when the firewall is of it doesnt matter
#1979 [16:57] <xbonesx> off*
#1980 [16:57] <ruthie> oops
#1981 [16:58] <ruthie> survival mode it works ok but w doesnt make me walk forward lol
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#1983 [16:58] <FLHerne> xbonesx: Which OS?
#1984 [16:58] <xbonesx> win7 64bit, using a wrt110 linsys router
#1985 [16:58] <xbonesx> linksys*
#1986 [16:58] <FLHerne> Ah, wouldn't know then :P
#1987 [16:58] <xbonesx> running on jre7u7
#1988 [16:59] <osuka_> xbonesx try this
#1989 [16:59] <xbonesx> ?
#1990 [16:59] <osuka_> get your local Ip
#1991 [16:59] <FLHerne> I had to fiddle a bit with /etc/hosts on Linux :P
#1992 [16:59] <xbonesx> k got it
#1993 [16:59] <osuka_> I think default for linksys routers is 192.168.1.1xx
#1994 [16:59] <xbonesx> correct
#1995 [16:59] <osuka_> get it, give it to your friend and add the port (default is 25565)
#1996 [16:59] <osuka_> should look like 192.168.1.1xx:25565
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#1998 [17:00] <xbonesx> but thats the thing lan hosted games are not default to a specific port, they are randomly choose at "start lan"
#1999 [17:00] <ruthie> brb need to put daughter to bed
#2000 [17:00] <osuka_> xbonesx oh my bad, sorry
#2001 [17:00] <xbonesx> :)
#2002 [17:00] <xbonesx> np
#2003 [17:00] <osuka_> Used to hosting servers too much
#2004 [17:00] <lutzee> Er i believe intenally port should not matter i don't think
#2005 [17:01] <osuka_> well why don't you try actually hosting a server? lol
#2006 [17:01] <osuka_> lutzee it does matter in most routers
#2007 [17:01] <osuka_> well
#2008 [17:01] <osuka_> not in mine
#2009 [17:01] <osuka_> but, just in case...
#2010 [17:01] <xbonesx> guess i could but the lan thing was supposed to make it easier an im not hosting for more than just me an dthe gf
#2011 [17:01] <osuka_> actually it doesn't matter in most routers*
#2012 [17:01] <osuka_> xbonesx yes, yes, I know
#2013 [17:01] <osuka_> But I don't really know what your problem is, mate
#2014 [17:01] <osuka_> just a second
#2015 [17:02] <noahcrawford> ok i'm going to try MultiMC....
#2016 [17:02] <xbonesx> here's something to add...
#2017 [17:02] <osuka_> noahcrawford: MultiMC has a channel: #multimc
#2018 [17:02] <noahcrawford> ok
#2019 [17:03] <xbonesx> if i manually setup a server instance in the list of servers and then type the ip and port that is given to me on "open to lan" then it shows good stats but then the client gets endstream when it trys to connect to it
#2020 [17:03] <ruthie> so it doesnt crash in survival mode but it does in creative, and still cant walk forward
#2021 [17:03] <osuka_> dafuq
#2022 [17:03] <osuka_> checked your keyboard? Don't know if both issues are related
#2023 [17:04] <lutzee> ??> ruthie win/reinst
#2024 [17:04] <VoxelHead> ruthie: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2025 [17:04] <VoxelHead> ruthie: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2026 [17:04] <xbonesx> wow
#2027 [17:04] <xbonesx> so suddenly its working, maybe it just take some time for the network to be made aware of the lan hosted game
#2028 [17:05] <osuka_> lol
#2029 [17:05] <xbonesx> thanks for trying either way guys, much appreciated
#2030 [17:05] <osuka_> you're welcome :3
#2031 [17:05] <osuka_> feel free to come back whenever you need us mate
#2032 [17:07] <xbonesx> thanks
#2033 [17:07] <xbonesx> peace
#2034 [17:07] <xbonesx> peace
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#2037 [17:09] <ruthie> yippeeee thank you it is now working, my daughter will be very happy now :)
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#2044 [17:16] <Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous> does anyone know an alternative to risugami's ModLoader?
#2045 [17:17] <osuka_> nope
#2046 [17:17] <osuka_> I mean, if a mod's coded to work with it, it won't work with anything else
#2047 [17:17] <lutzee> Forge ModLoader will load modloader mods
#2048 [17:18] <osuka_> that's because forge includes modloader
#2049 [17:18] <lutzee> osuka_: incorrect
#2050 [17:18] <osuka_> lutzee I'm pretty sure it does
#2051 [17:18] <osuka_> let me check it
#2052 [17:19] <lutzee> osuka_: i challenge you to find any modloader code :p
#2053 [17:19] <osuka_> lol
#2054 [17:19] <osuka_> also where did modloadermp go?
#2055 [17:19] <Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous> ok because i don't think risugami has updated his for MC 1.3.2
#2056 [17:19] <lutzee> It died pretty much because it was poorly done
#2057 [17:19] <osuka_> yes he did
#2058 [17:19] <osuka_> I think.
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#2062 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#2063 [17:21] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.328 seconds.
#2064 [17:22] <samcro117> how do i get this game to work that i just purchased
#2065 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try to run it?
#2066 [17:23] <samcro117> when i try it says updating minecraft and done loading then it goes to a blank white or black screen
#2067 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Is this through the in-browser client or the downloadable one?
#2068 [17:25] <samcro117> in browser when i try the downloadable one it just shoes random numbers and i can not get it off the screen
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#2070 [17:25] <Yerg> Huh?
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#2072 [17:26] <BlackZedge> Hello
#2073 [17:26] <Yerg> Hello
#2074 [17:26] <Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous> Hello
#2075 [17:26] <BlackZedge> I'm having a problem, when i try to log into minecraft it says "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2076 [17:27] <osuka_> check your firewall
#2077 [17:27] <BlackZedge> I swear i tried everything to make it work but i just don't know what to do anymore
#2078 [17:27] <Yerg> BlackZedge: Has it ever worked before?
#2079 [17:27] <BlackZedge> I already created an exception for Minecraft
#2080 [17:27] <BlackZedge> yes it has
#2081 [17:27] * CaptainDust is now known as Dustball|Work
#2082 [17:28] <samcro117> im having a problem because it says A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#2083 [17:28] <ShaRose> oh, I went afk, did anyone tell that ruthie guy that all he needed to do was delete his config file?
#2084 [17:28] <osuka_> what error?
#2085 [17:28] <osuka_> ShaRose it worked suddenly
#2086 [17:28] <lutzee> ShaRose: i got him to perform a manual reinstall, it was easier
#2087 [17:28] <BlackZedge> I also tried deleting and re-downloading, plus tried turning the firewall completely off, plus rederecting the ports it uses also created an exception for it
#2088 [17:28] <osuka_> now his daughter's gonna be happy, they say
#2089 [17:28] <samcro117> i don,t know it just shows ramdom numbers
#2090 [17:28] <BlackZedge> what else can i do?
#2091 [17:29] <osuka_> reboot.
#2092 [17:29] <BlackZedge> I already did
#2093 [17:29] <osuka_> turn off. wait a couple minutes then boot again
#2094 [17:29] <osuka_> lol jk don't do that
#2095 [17:29] <Yerg> BlackZedge: what do you see when you go to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#2096 [17:30] <samcro117> for some reason when it says to run it, it says theres and UNKOWN publisher then it just dissapeers to the main screen
#2097 [17:30] <BlackZedge> Bad login
#2098 [17:30] <Yerg> Hmm. That's right.
#2099 [17:30] <ShaRose> lutzee faster to just delete the config file
#2100 [17:30] <ShaRose> or straight up change the binding for open inventory to an actual KEY versus your mouse keys
#2101 [17:30] <lutzee> ShaRose: faster for me to trigger a bot factoid that explains a manual reinstallatoion
#2102 [17:30] <ShaRose> because that's the problem
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#2104 [17:31] <samcro117> why is it not working cause im pist off
#2105 [17:31] <BlackZedge> What is that?
#2106 [17:31] <Yerg> BlackZedge - are you on the computer right now that's having the problem?
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#2109 [17:32] <BlackZedge> Indeed i am
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#2112 [17:33] <Yerg> BlackZedge: do you see a news feed in the upper section of the launcher?
#2113 [17:33] <samcro117> mine says there a bug with my java
#2114 [17:33] <osuka_> ?amjgsimcf
#2115 [17:33] <osuka_> ?mjgsimcf
#2116 [17:33] <samcro117> what the hell
#2117 [17:33] <BlackZedge> Yes i do
#2118 [17:33] <osuka_> oops wrong channel sorry
#2119 [17:33] <Calmcacil> does anyone know a good hosting company that you use custom jars/forge with to use custom mods?
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#2121 [17:34] <samcro117> will anyone fuckin help the fuckin poor helpless kid known as me
#2122 [17:34] * AuBot kicked samcro117 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: amcro117 :Please keep it civil.)
#2123 [17:34] <Yerg> BlackZedge: Then I'm pretty sure that some sort of security software or firewall is blocking minecraft
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#2125 [17:35] <BlackZedge> Aside from my regular firewall which i created exception for, and also tried with the firewall turned off, that i know of i don't have any other security program
#2126 [17:35] <samcro117> can some one help me please i just bought this game and i can't play it
#2127 [17:36] <Yerg> BlackZedge: could you open up a command prompt and try pinging login.minecraft.net
#2128 [17:37] <Yerg> Tell me what ip it resolves to
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#2131 [17:37] <BlackZedge> reuqest timed outy
#2132 [17:38] <BlackZedge> request timed out*
#2133 [17:38] <Yerg> huh. That doesn't seem right
#2134 [17:38] <osuka_> try ipconfig /flushdns
#2135 [17:38] <BlackZedge> sent 4, recieved 0, lost 4
#2136 [17:38] <kirbiejay15> my son wanted this game. I have now been trying to get it to work for an hour and 15 mins with no luck. If i try to get it to wprk in browser it says java will not trust the certificate. it even rejects me if I tell it to trust the cert. java says that it is an unsigned cert and auto denies no matter what you do. If i try to download the account my computer says the download has an error and it must be moved to trash. This is
#2137 [17:38] <Yerg> kirbiejay15: mac.
#2138 [17:38] <Yerg> ?
#2139 [17:39] <kirbiejay15> yes mac
#2140 [17:39] <Yerg> ?? Mac/gatekeeper
#2141 [17:39] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#2142 [17:39] <Yerg> Then try downloading minecraft again
#2143 [17:39] <osuka_> lol I hope apple burns in hell for that
#2144 [17:39] <samcro117> whay cant you help one person at a time i have the same issues however
#2145 [17:39] <osuka_> that's what I most hate in apple
#2146 [17:39] <osuka_> other than that, they're ok
#2147 [17:39] <Yerg> ?? Omlt/you
#2148 [17:39] <samcro117> only my computer is windows 7
#2149 [17:40] <Yerg> ?? Only/you
#2150 [17:40] <VoxelHead> only/you: Moved to irc/multitasking
#2151 [17:40] <osuka_> alright, brb
#2152 [17:40] * osuka_ is now known as osuka_|AFK
#2153 [17:40] <Yerg> ?? Irc/multitasking
#2154 [17:40] <VoxelHead> irc/multitasking: In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
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#2156 [17:40] <kirbiejay15> ok thanks yerg. im trying to download again now
#2157 [17:40] <Yerg> Sure
#2158 [17:41] <samcro117> so basicley this game does not work
#2159 [17:41] <Yerg> BlackZedge: before the timed out messages, what is the first line?
#2160 [17:41] <Yerg> samcro117: I'm sorry, but you're not the only person here looking for help
#2161 [17:42] <samcro117> we have downloaded it a few times and we are out $30.00
#2162 [17:42] <FLHerne> samcro117: Exact error, please?
#2163 [17:42] <FLHerne> ?? attitude
#2164 [17:42] <VoxelHead> attitude: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
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#2166 [17:42] <VoxelHead> attitude: In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
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#2168 [17:42] <Yerg> samcro117: perhaps if you can tell us more about your error?
#2169 [17:42] <kirbiejay15> worked!!!! all praise Yerg!!
#2170 [17:42] <FLHerne> Perhaps the bot is a little too harsh :-)
#2171 [17:42] <samcro117> it will not play at all
#2172 [17:42] <Yerg> kirbiejay15: glad we could help
#2173 [17:42] <samcro117> like what
#2174 [17:43] <Yerg> samcro117: how exactly does it not work?
#2175 [17:43] <Yerg> What error do you get?
#2176 [17:43] <Yerg> What does it do or say?
#2177 [17:43] <FLHerne> samcro117: 'Not working' is a symptom of almost every possible error :P
#2178 [17:44] <Yerg> BlackZedge: still there?
#2179 [17:44] <samcro117> well when i try to play in my prowser it says to run so i click it and then it says thers an unknown publisher then it goes to a blank screen
#2180 [17:44] <BlackZedge> ´Pinging auth-1948379932.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com 107.20.196.192 with 32 bytes of data
#2181 [17:44] <samcro117> browser sorr bout dat
#2182 [17:44] <FLHerne> samcro117: What happens if you download and run the standalone launcher?
#2183 [17:45] <samcro117> it just shows a screen with random numbers flashing
#2184 [17:45] <FLHerne> Also, I assume you're using Windows?
#2185 [17:45] <samcro117> yes an windows 7
#2186 [17:46] <FLHerne> 'Random numbers flashing'?
#2187 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> !login
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#2189 [17:47] <lutzee> samcro117: plase take a screenshot of these numbers and upload it to imgur.com then copy the link you get back here
#2190 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> hmm login servers are up, just your computer can't connect for some reason
#2191 [17:47] <lutzee> BlackZedge: what antivirus do you use?
#2192 [17:48] <BlackZedge> Eset Smart Security 5
#2193 [17:48] <FLHerne> samcro117: To check: You downloaded Minecraft.exe from http://www.minecraft.net/download , and ran it?
#2194 [17:48] <lutzee> Hmmm i believe there are some problems with Eset and connecting to minecraft.net ...
#2195 [17:48] * FLHerne doesn't remember that error :-(
#2195 [17:48] <Yerg> Smart Security also has a firewall component
#2196 [17:49] <lutzee> try disabling it all together
#2197 [17:49] * Yerg uses eset with no problems...
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#2198 [17:50] <Yerg> Not to say that the firewall isn't capable of blocking java/minecraft
#2199 [17:50] <samcro117> yes i tryed again and it takes me back to the main minecraft home page
#2200 [17:50] <BlackZedge> Still can't connec to it, eset was completely disabled on all it's functions and couldn't connect anyways
#2201 [17:51] <Yerg> BlackZedge: can you go to http://www.minecraft.net/play and see if minecraft will load there?
#2202 [17:51] <lutzee> I distinctly remember the last person who had the problem totally removed Eset and it worked :/
#2203 [17:52] <Yerg> Eep
#2204 [17:52] <BlackZedge> yup i works there
#2205 [17:52] <Yerg> Hrm...
#2206 [17:52] <BlackZedge> Loaded and everything
#2207 [17:52] <BlackZedge> Now it's downloading patches
#2208 [17:52] <Yerg> Then eset is a definite possibility.
#2209 [17:53] <BlackZedge> How come, i always had eset and never had any problems, until now that i formatted my HDD and reinstalled everything
#2210 [17:54] <Yerg> Can't say. I use eset SS for well over a decade now with no problema
#2211 [17:54] <Yerg> problems*
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#2213 [17:55] <Yerg> AV suites constantly updated and patch themselves, so maybe there was a rule that got changed?
#2214 [17:55] <BlackZedge> Any configuation on Eset that should be a determined way for Minecraft that you can know about?
#2215 [17:55] <Yerg> Check the firewall component and make sure java isn't set to be denied access to the outside?
#2216 [17:56] <samcro117> when i click on the minecraft icon on my main screen it takes me to the minecraft launcher then i sign in and then it dissapeers and on my main screen it has an icon that wasn't ther befor and i load it and it says A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment and EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000006bdfb6cf, pid=3280, tid=9356
#2217 [17:56] <Yerg> Gah.
#2218 [17:56] <Yerg> ?? Pastebin
#2219 [17:56] <lutzee> samcro117: ahh something useful
#2220 [17:57] <Yerg> Use www.pastebin.com to paste that large amount of text
#2221 [17:57] <Yerg> Then give us the url
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#2223 [17:57] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2224 [17:57] <Yerg> Vox is laggy.
#2225 [17:58] <Yerg> BlackZedge: are you capable of un installing eset completely, just to rest?
#2226 [17:58] <Yerg> Er, test
#2227 [17:58] <BlackZedge> I suppouse i can
#2228 [17:58] <samcro117> and this also if you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp the crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code.
#2229 [17:59] <Yerg> samcro117: use www.pastebin.com
#2230 [17:59] <Yerg> Paste your text there please
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#2232 [18:00] <Oxymoron> Has Minecraft been acting really glitchy for anyone?
#2233 [18:00] <samcro117> i did
#2234 [18:00] <Oxymoron> It's been like that for me recently.
#2235 [18:00] <Yerg> samcro117: then press submit and give us the address
#2236 [18:01] <FLHerne> Oxymoron: 1.3 has a few irritating glitches for some people. What ones do you have? :P
#2237 [18:01] <samcro117> how do i know the adress
#2238 [18:01] <lutzee> samcro117: copy it straigh from the address bar
#2239 [18:01] <Yerg> Look at the top of your browser, where you initially put in www.pastebin.com
#2240 [18:01] <Oxymoron> When shooting arrows through lava, they catch on fire but the flames are invisible, my dog warps to me even though it wsa sitting, mob movement has been really jerky,
#2241 [18:02] <samcro117> http://pastebin.com/t8CPL2E9
#2242 [18:02] <samcro117> okay i did
#2243 [18:02] <Oxymoron> Oh, and my human TNT cannon seems to be a lot more powerful than it was before.
#2244 [18:02] <Yerg> Classic ati video driver issue
#2245 [18:03] <lutzee> ??> samcro117 win/dxdiag
#2246 [18:03] <VoxelHead> samcro117: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2247 [18:03] <VoxelHead> samcro117: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2248 [18:03] <BlackZedge> Won't let me uninstall it
#2249 [18:03] <samcro117> i did
#2250 [18:04] <lutzee> samcro117: new instructions follow them carefull
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#2252 [18:04] <Yerg> BlackZedge: what?
#2253 [18:04] <FLHerne> This automated instruction-giving bot is awesome :-)
#2254 [18:04] <samcro117> what new instructions
#2255 [18:04] <BlackZedge> It says i need to be administrator to uninstall it ( which i am) and them backed the uninstall
#2256 [18:05] <FLHerne> samcro117: The ones about dxdiag that lutzee/VoxelHead posted ;-)
#2257 [18:05] <samcro117> oh
#2258 [18:06] <Yerg> BlackZedge: Hmm...
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#2260 [18:07] <Yerg> BlackZedge: fresh reboot and try again?
#2261 [18:07] <samcro117> is win/dxdiag a site
#2262 [18:07] <Yerg> No
#2263 [18:08] <samcro117> what is it
#2264 [18:08] <Yerg> ?? Win/dxdiag
#2265 [18:08] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2266 [18:08] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2268 [18:08] <Yerg> Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#2269 [18:08] <samcro117> whats the win keys
#2270 [18:08] <Yerg> ?? Win/key
#2271 [18:09] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2272 [18:09] <samcro117> the windows key oh
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#2274 [18:11] <BlackZedge_> Managed to turn off the firewall completely and now it works
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#2276 [18:11] <Yerg> Well then
#2277 [18:11] <BlackZedge_> the question now is: how can i do to make em work together
#2278 [18:12] <Yerg> Gotta find the rule that denies java/mine craft then
#2279 [18:12] <Yerg> One sec, switching to my desktop
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#2281 [18:13] <NinjaKirby> How can he do to make them
#2282 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Alright BlackZedge_ - Go to your eset control panel. Along the left side, you'll see 'tools', click on that, then 'personal firewall'
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#2284 [18:13] <samcro117> okay http://pastebin.com/b1xyzR2M
#2285 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Hit, 'configure rules and zones'
#2286 [18:14] <George> Hey, can someone help me real quick? :P
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#2288 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> BlackZedge_ - Once you have the zone and rule setup window open, look for java in there, make sure it's not set to disallow/deny
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#2290 [18:15] <lutzee> samcro117: is this a laptop?
#2291 [18:15] <samcro117> no
#2292 [18:16] <lutzee> wtf :S
#2293 [18:16] <samcro117> huh
#2294 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Strange.
#2295 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Not seeing an ATI card in that..
#2296 [18:16] <osuka_> George: What's it mate?
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#2298 [18:17] <George> Erm, when I play creative, and destroy a block, it's not really destroyed.. If I try to walk into it I get stuck, if I try to right click the empty space to place a different block the one that I destroyed appears, if I quit and load again the block I destroyed is back..
#2299 [18:17] <samcro117> its a desktop windows 7
#2300 [18:17] <lutzee> My thoughts exactly..
#2301 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Dell's site says it should have one.
#2302 [18:17] <George> I can destroy levers and redstone though.. :S I also have the same bug with Buildcraft pipes in survival some times..
#2303 [18:17] <m34r8t> i just grabbed the 1.3.2 exe (was using 1.3.1), and fired it up. My character started back at spawn, as if I had died. Any clues as to how I could use the latest exe without that happening?
#2304 [18:17] <George> Could one of the mods I have cause this?
#2305 [18:18] <FLHerne> ??>George mods
#2306 [18:18] <George> Sec
#2307 [18:18] <FLHerne> ??> George mods
#2308 [18:18] * FLHerne hasn't figured out the bot yet :P
#2308 [18:18] <FLHerne> ?? mods
#2309 [18:18] <lutzee> Vox is lagging
#2310 [18:18] <FLHerne> I noticed that :P
#2311 [18:19] <samcro117> hello
#2312 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> samcro117 - You're going to need to go to: http://www.dell.com/support/troubleshooting/us/en/19/Index/inspiron-580s
#2313 [18:19] <lutzee> m34r8t: the launcher does not change, only files hidden out the way
#2314 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> And either enter your dell computer's service tag, or figure out what video card you have.
#2315 [18:19] <m34r8t> ahhh, ok, so I need to go get new context eh? thanks
#2316 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> You'll then need to download an updated video card driver for your computer and install it
#2317 [18:19] <FLHerne> Yeah, *definitely* something up with the bot :o
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#2319 [18:20] <lutzee> m34r8t: the launcher will automaticlly update any files to the latest version
#2320 [18:20] * GreyVulpine prods DopeGhoti, "Vox's taking a merrily little stroll around the globe, latency's through the roof."
#2320 [18:20] <lutzee> FLHerne: inb4pingtimeout :p
#2321 [18:20] <m34r8t> i have a horribly cobbled together set of exe/content
#2322 [18:20] <m34r8t> cant update, which is irksome heh
#2323 [18:21] <m34r8t> lemme go see if i can find the latest jar
#2324 [18:21] <lutzee> ??> m34r8t forceupdate
#2325 [18:21] <AveloreFlamewing> I have a rather random question, and it involves playing on a map on my LAN. Who here has LogMeIn Hamachi? XD
#2326 [18:21] <m34r8t> my issue, lutzee, is that i can't log in
#2327 [18:21] <m34r8t> aaaalllllmooost tempted to just go buy the game again heh
#2328 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Ew. Hamachi
#2329 [18:21] <lutzee> m34r8t: why can't you log in, what does it say?
#2330 [18:21] <FLHerne> lutzee: Er - you acknowledge that the bot has >1min latency, and the try to use it? :P
#2331 [18:22] <m34r8t> its as if my account doesnt exist, lutzee
#2332 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> m34r8t - Account name?
#2333 [18:22] <m34r8t> i got minecraft quite some time back, left it for probably a couple years
#2334 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> !paid m34r8t
#2335 [18:23] <m34r8t> and got it un-ideally :P Buddy at the bar paid for it while we were getting loaded, on his laptop heh
#2336 [18:23] <m34r8t> I dont use paypall, so gave him 20 bucks, he bought it, etc
#2337 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> There goes DG's bouncer
#2338 [18:23] <George> FLHerne: http://pastebin.com/8v1kPc1e
#2339 [18:23] <samcro117> where do i enter it
#2340 [18:23] <m34r8t> ive never actually tried to contact mojang, cuz lets be honest - thats apretty sketchy story :P
#2341 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> samcro117 - In the place where it says Enter Your Service Tag for a list of drivers specific to your product.
#2342 [18:24] <FLHerne> George: I was trying to get the bot to tell you that we don't support mods here :P
#2343 [18:24] <FLHerne> Unfortunately, the bot's crashed :-(
#2344 [18:24] <VoxelHead> George: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2345 [18:24] <VoxelHead> George: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2346 [18:24] <VoxelHead> m34r8t: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2347 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Hey, there it goes
#2348 [18:24] * Me4502|away is now known as Me4502
#2349 [18:24] <VoxelHead> m34r8t: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2350 [18:24] <FLHerne> Oh, it finally caught up :D
#2351 [18:24] * Selbram is now known as Selbram|away
#2352 [18:25] <m34r8t> yeah, cant log in, but thanks
#2353 [18:25] <George> FLHerne: Oh lol, could the mods be a problem though? I tried removing everything in the mods folder in .minecraft but there are still some in minecraft.jar ...
#2354 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> It can
#2355 [18:25] <samcro117> it says enter your service tag 4 warranty information on this product
#2356 [18:25] * AwayK is now known as AmberK
#2357 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> samcro117, look below that, for " Enter Your Service Tag for a list of drivers specific to your product.
#2358 [18:26] <FLHerne> George: Try removing minecraft.jar, it should redownload automatically ;-)
#2359 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Well, remove the version file.
#2360 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> just removing minecraft.jar alone doesn't trigger the update
#2361 [18:27] <FLHerne> well, the entire bin folder then :P
#2362 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> That works too
#2363 [18:27] <samcro117> theres a tab that says Drivers and Downloads for Inspiron 580s but when i click it doesn't say enter service tag
#2364 [18:27] <George> I kept a backup before installing the mods, I guess I'll try that now too, but playing without mods isn't really an option.. :P
#2365 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> samcro117 - Do you see, under the tab that says Drivers and Downloads, "Drivers and Downloads for Inspiron 580s "
#2366 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Under that, you should see a line that says:
#2367 [18:28] <samcro117> yes
#2368 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> "
#2369 [18:28] <m34r8t> yay! grabbed the latest jar.
#2370 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Enter Your Service Tag for a list of drivers specific to your product.
#2371 [18:28] <m34r8t> thanks for pointing mein the right direction
#2372 [18:29] <samcro117> iokay know what
#2373 [18:30] <George> FLHerne: It works without any mods, should I try re-installing all of them?
#2374 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Did you enter your service tag, samcro117?
#2375 [18:30] <samcro117> yes
#2376 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Now look towards the bottom, where you have a dropdown for video
#2377 [18:30] <FLHerne> George: Well, reinstall them one at a time and see which one causes it :P
#2378 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Click on that, look for the latest video driver download. Download that, and install it
#2379 [18:31] <George> FLHerne: I was really hoping you wouldn't say that :p
#2380 [18:31] <FLHerne> George: Well, you could try reinstalling them all and see if it works :P
#2381 [18:31] <FLHerne> If it still doesn't, then you can do it painfully :P
#2382 [18:32] <George> Yeah, I might try that first.. The thought of restarting minecraft 10 times horrifies me :/
#2383 [18:36] <m34r8t> good lord npc villagers have a skewed sense of value :P
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#2386 [18:48] <samcro117> now what
#2387 [18:48] <George> FLHerne: Fixed, it was MultiMine, I thought I already tried removing it :P
#2388 [18:49] <George> FLHerne: Well, thanks for telling me to do it, I would have never made myself do it :L
#2389 [18:50] <FLHerne> George: :P
#2390 [18:50] * FLHerne goes to bed
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#2391 [18:51] <ninetails> hey guys i was on here earlier and now i have a new problem
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#2393 [18:51] <techno145> yes?
#2394 [18:52] <ninetails> everytime i try to start minecraft it says error "java could not launch virtual machine and error " a fatal exception has occured.
#2395 [18:52] <techno145> have you tried re-installing java?
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#2397 [18:52] <ninetails> yeah
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#2400 [18:52] <ninetails> i even got the latest version
#2401 [18:54] <samcro117> grey vulpine
#2402 [18:54] <techno145> ninetails, what OS are you using?
#2403 [18:54] <techno145> ninetails, what OS are you using?
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#2406 [18:55] <samcro117> ninetails same thing happeningf with me
#2407 [18:55] <ninetails> whats OS?
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#2410 [18:55] <lutzee> ninetails: do you find any files named hs_err_pid where you have the launcher?
#2411 [18:56] <ninetails> no
#2412 [18:57] <samcro117> lutzee i have that
#2413 [18:57] <lutzee> samcro117: we have seen your
#2414 [18:57] <lutzee> yours
#2415 [18:57] <lutzee> if you have updated your drivers then try run the game again
#2416 [18:57] <techno145> OS is an operating system (windows, macosx Linux etc)
#2417 [18:57] <samcro117> ok
#2418 [18:57] <ninetails> windows
#2419 [18:57] * osuka_ is now known as osuka_|afk
#2420 [18:57] <techno145> Hmmm...
#2421 [18:57] <techno145> what version of java?
#2422 [18:57] <ninetails> 7 update 7
#2423 [18:58] <ninetails> before that it was 6 update 35
#2424 [18:58] <techno145> Did it work then?
#2425 [18:58] <ninetails> no still dont work
#2426 [18:58] <techno145> So hwne did it work last?
#2427 [18:58] <samcro117> it still will not work has that hs_thingy
#2428 [18:58] <techno145> *when
#2429 [18:59] * Contex is now known as Contex|Away
#2430 [18:59] <techno145> try moving it somewhere else?
#2431 [19:00] <ninetails> it worked an hour ago
#2432 [19:00] <ninetails> then i shut off the computer came back and it happened
#2433 [19:00] <FLHerne> ninetails: With which Java version?
#2434 [19:00] <ninetails> java 6 update 35
#2435 [19:01] <ninetails> then i came back and it didnt work using java 6 update 35 so i updated it seeing if that was the problem
#2436 [19:01] <ninetails> it didnt work still
#2437 [19:01] <ninetails> it didnt work still
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#2439 [19:02] <ninetails> but it really stopped working after i tried to download a skin
#2440 [19:02] <samcro117> lutzee it still wont work in my browser
#2441 [19:03] <ninetails> i accidently put it in the texture pack folder and then my game wouldnt work
#2442 [19:03] <ninetails> so i deleted it and it still wouldnt work
#2443 [19:03] <ninetails> so now i dont know whats wrong with it
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#2445 [19:04] <techno145> try force-updating if you can
#2446 [19:04] <techno145> samcro117, update your java, if you have one
#2447 [19:05] <ninetails> i can because the thing wont even load up
#2448 [19:05] <ninetails> cant not can
#2449 [19:05] <lutzee> techno145: his PC apparently has an ATI graphics card in it, but doesn't show up in the dxdiag
#2450 [19:05] <ninetails> like mincraft wont open at all
#2451 [19:05] <lutzee> samco's that is
#2452 [19:06] * Selbram|away is now known as Selbram
#2453 [19:07] <samcro117> so what do i do
#2454 [19:07] <ninetails> anyone have any ideas?
#2455 [19:08] <samcro117> any one help me cause i realy cant wait to play
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#2459 [19:11] <samcro117> i still am having no luck where are all of you
#2460 [19:11] <Twised_tac0> i am have a unknow host problem but i know the sever is real beacuse a frined is on it
#2461 [19:12] <samcro117> please respond so i know someone is there
#2462 [19:12] <Twised_tac0> hello ?
#2463 [19:12] * osuka_|afk is now known as osuka_
#2464 [19:12] <samcro117> where is everyone
#2465 [19:13] <osuka_> hai
#2466 [19:14] <Twised_tac0> hello
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#2469 [19:16] <techno145> sorry, busy atm
#2470 [19:17] <samcro117> im try to redowload java
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#2472 [19:19] <xbonesx> how do you pull up the set of commands on the server console?
#2473 [19:19] <techno145> try to chec your graphics card, if its not plugged in properly, plug it in, and turn off your computer first before doing so
#2474 [19:19] <techno145> /help
#2475 [19:19] <xbonesx> im using a custom run.bat
#2476 [19:19] <xbonesx> though so all i see is a cmd
#2477 [19:19] <xbonesx> i dont see that white screen
#2478 [19:20] <techno145> are you able to type?
#2479 [19:20] <xbonesx> are the previous commands like save-all still working
#2480 [19:20] <techno145> yep
#2481 [19:20] <xbonesx> yes but i dont get any returns on things like save-all and help
#2482 [19:20] <lutzee> xbonesx: don't put a / first
#2483 [19:20] <xbonesx> do i have to type with a "/" cuz before all i had to type was save-all
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#2485 [19:20] <techno145> oh, thats for in-game
#2486 [19:21] <xbonesx> still nothing
#2487 [19:21] <xbonesx> either way
#2488 [19:21] <techno145> sorry for the mix-up
#2489 [19:21] <techno145> try help
#2490 [19:21] <xbonesx> nothing returns
#2491 [19:21] <samcro117_> okay what now redownloaded java update 7
#2492 [19:21] <techno145> samcroll117_, does it work
#2493 [19:21] <xbonesx> since i started the server using the "nogui" statement, is there a way i can force the "white screen" to come back up?
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#2495 [19:21] <Twised_tac0> i'm have a unkown host on a sever that i know is real beacuse a frined is on it
#2496 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> xbonesx - The white screen is the gui. If you're starting it with 'nogui' that white screen won't come up
#2497 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Twised_tac0 - What is the ip address you're trying to connect to?
#2498 [19:23] <Twised_tac0> pvp.novscraft.com
#2499 [19:23] <samcro117_> no
#2500 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> !check pvp.novscraft.com
#2501 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Try entering it again
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#2503 [19:23] <Twised_tac0> no
#2504 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> No?
#2505 [19:23] <techno145> what does it say?
#2506 [19:24] <Twised_tac0> unknow host
#2507 [19:24] <xbonesx> im unable to get the output of /help to display when using nogui, is there a specific reason this doesnt output to the cmd anymore?
#2508 [19:24] <techno145> hm...
#2509 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Try putting in: 69.162.76.163
#2510 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> That should be the ip address of pvp.novscraft.com
#2511 [19:24] <techno145> It is, I just checked
#2512 [19:25] <techno145> xbonesx, can you change the statement back?
#2513 [19:25] <Twised_tac0> is there a port
#2514 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> No.
#2515 [19:25] <samcro117_> it still wont work and im about to rage
#2516 [19:25] <osuka_> lol
#2517 [19:25] <Twised_tac0> it say failed to login unknown host exeption
#2518 [19:25] <samcro117_> lol
#2519 [19:25] <xbonesx> yes im doing that now and just making a backup text file of all the commands
#2520 [19:26] <techno145> Twised_tac0, do you have a proxy on?
#2521 [19:26] <osuka_> samcro117_ try this: open up cmd and type in ipconfig /flushdns
#2522 [19:26] <Twised_tac0> ?
#2523 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> xbonesx - Are you doing /help or just 'help' in the server console?
#2524 [19:26] <osuka_> oh mb, wrong guy
#2525 [19:26] <samcro117_> whats that
#2526 [19:26] <xbonesx> tried both in the cmd when i used "nogui"
#2527 [19:26] <techno145> reset ip address
#2528 [19:26] <osuka_> Twised_tac0: Open up cmd and type in ipconfig /flushdns
#2529 [19:26] * Selbram is now known as Selbram|away
#2530 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> xbonesx - Remember that commands put into the server console are not prefixed by /
#2531 [19:26] <techno145> yeah, my bad
#2532 [19:26] <samcro117_> ok
#2533 [19:26] <xbonesx> if i remove nogui and type those commands from MC default server console they work just fine
#2534 [19:26] <techno145> i was thinking in-game
#2535 [19:27] <Twised_tac0> done
#2536 [19:27] <osuka_> Twised_tac0: Then, power cycle your modem (if any) and reboot.
#2537 [19:27] <techno145> does it work?
#2538 [19:27] <xbonesx> GreyVulpine: yes i know
#2539 [19:27] <Twised_tac0> ok i might be back because i have done this
#2540 [19:27] <xbonesx> might have something to do with forge
#2541 [19:27] <techno145> forge?
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#2543 [19:28] <samcro117_> hey i tryed to play in my browser and it said updating minecraft then went to a blank white screen any one help me
#2544 [19:28] <lutzee> forge, though it changes a lot shouldn't have those problems
#2545 [19:29] <techno145> samcro117_, use the launcher now
#2546 [19:30] <Twised_tac0> it still didnt work
#2547 [19:30] <techno145> actucally, shoudl be 'try use the launcher now', sorry :P
#2548 [19:30] <techno145> are you using it at work or school or something?
#2549 [19:30] <Twised_tac0> ?
#2550 [19:31] <techno145> yes?
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#2552 [19:31] <Twised_tac0> ctcp version from me
#2553 [19:31] <techno145> yeah, i was checking to see something
#2554 [19:31] <samcro117_> it said the publisher could not be verified is that bad
#2555 [19:31] <Twised_tac0> ok
#2556 [19:32] <gartral> ok everyone, I hate trying to read Java errors.. what exactly is going on here? http://pastie.org/4734808
#2557 [19:32] <techno145> just clickun
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#2559 [19:32] <techno145> *run
#2560 [19:32] <ownageonscreen7> run
#2561 [19:32] <techno145> can't read it i'm afraid
#2562 [19:32] <techno145> I'm blocked from the site
#2563 [19:32] <gartral> techno145: talking to me?
#2564 [19:32] <techno145> yep
#2565 [19:33] <lutzee> gartral: you have a mod that requires buildcraft, but buildcraft isn't present
#2566 [19:33] <gartral> why are you blocked from pastie?
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#2568 [19:33] <techno145> gartral "malcious (local)" :P
#2569 [19:33] <gartral> lutzee: I have buildcraft in the mods dir... wtf?
#2570 [19:33] <Twised_tac0> is someone helping me
#2571 [19:33] <lutzee> gartral: what mods?
#2572 [19:33] <gartral> samcro117_: don't run anything techno145 tells you too run
#2573 [19:34] <techno145> gartral how come?
#2574 [19:34] <gartral> lutzee: Buildcraft, Foresty, and Krapht's logistic pipes
#2575 [19:34] <samcro117_> i then clicked run and then it asked me to put in my password so i did then the screem dissapeered and on my desktop is an icon called hs_err_pid2612
#2576 [19:34] <xbonesx> lutzee: would you be willing to help me further?
#2577 [19:34] <lutzee> gartral: make ure logipipes loads after buildcraft
#2578 [19:34] <undead> Why when i try to join my server I cant connect to it? it says cannot reach server
#2579 [19:34] <techno145> The launcher crashed...
#2580 [19:34] <techno145> undead, try to join 127.0.0.1 for you rown server
#2581 [19:34] <gartral> lutzee: how would I have controll over that?
#2582 [19:35] <lutzee> gartral: they load in alphabetical order
#2583 [19:35] <samcro117_> hello u get my last message
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#2585 [19:36] <lutzee> samcro117_: okay, i'm going to put this out there, i suspect that the video card installed into you PC is broken
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#2588 [19:36] <undead> k buthow can my friend join
#2589 [19:36] <techno145> lutzee, could it be loose, though
#2590 [19:36] <samcro117_> ok what does hat mean im only 14
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#2592 [19:36] <techno145> The video thingy is broken
#2593 [19:37] <techno145> I'm 15, though I'm a bit of a geek... :P
#2594 [19:37] <samcro117_> how do i fix it
#2595 [19:37] <lutzee> samcro117_: I suggest you have someone with knowlege of PC's to take a look at your PC
#2596 [19:37] <samcro117_> no i did not
#2597 [19:37] <xbonesx> lutzee: http://pastie.org/4734823 this is the run.bat file i use, is there something about it that isn't right for 1.3.2. This is the same .bat file used for my 1.2.5 servers and i was able to get returns on commands like "help" in the cmd window just fine
#2598 [19:37] <gartral> lutzee: it goes: Buildcraft, forestry, Logisticpipes.. is it lowercase before upper?
#2599 [19:37] <techno145> Turn off your computer and check that it's plugged in properly. but make sure you unplug it first
#2600 [19:37] <undead> techno how can my friend join I porforwarded my ip doesn't work but the ip u sent me connects to my server
#2601 [19:37] <techno145> undead, is he onthe same network?
#2602 [19:38] <undead> no he is at his house
#2603 [19:38] <techno145> hm..
#2604 [19:38] <samcro117_> techno u talking to me 2 shut down my computer
#2605 [19:38] <lutzee> xbonesx: ahh bukkit... not sure on that one
#2606 [19:38] <gartral> undead: for one 127.0.0.1 is a loopback.. basically tells the computer to talk to itself..
#2607 [19:38] <techno145> search up your external IP or "what's my IP"
#2608 [19:38] <xbonesx> no no no
#2609 [19:38] <undead> I did
#2610 [19:38] <xbonesx> i just use it so that i can control the ram allocation and get rid of the mc server console, just using a cmd window
#2611 [19:38] <undead> It just says cannot reach server
#2612 [19:39] <xbonesx> lutzee: ^
#2613 [19:39] <lutzee> xbonesx: oh right you haven't changed the params for x86..
#2614 [19:39] <xbonesx> but i use 64bit java to host?
#2615 [19:39] <gartral> undead: for another, you don't portforward you IP.. you portforward a port through your router. also, if you have Windows firewall enabled, that will still block the connection
#2616 [19:39] <xbonesx> which is why i only need to edit the top line, no?
#2617 [19:40] <samcro117_> okay why is that the only thing it effects cause it works with every thing else
#2618 [19:40] <techno145> samcro117_, is your video card working?
#2619 [19:40] <samcro117_> how can i tell
#2620 [19:40] <undead> How do i stop firewall from doing that
#2621 [19:41] <samcro117_> i know im not that techy accept for xboxes
#2622 [19:41] <techno145> samcro117_, of course
#2623 [19:41] <techno145> dxdiag checks stuff...
#2624 [19:41] <samcro117_> what
#2625 [19:42] <gartral> undead the easiest way is to disable Windows Firewall.. the safest would be add an exception, from here out, Google is your friend, I don't run windows, and havent since XP SP2.. I'm pure linux now
#2626 [19:42] <techno145> video, sound and display
#2627 [19:42] <techno145> gartral, what distro?
#2628 [19:42] <techno145> ...
#2629 [19:43] <lutzee> techno145: tl;dr samco's minecraft is crashing because an ati driver asn't working, dxdiag shows no such ati video card
#2630 [19:43] <lutzee> So i'm confused what's wrong and put it down to hardwwaare
#2631 [19:43] <techno145> it could be unplugged
#2632 [19:43] <samcro117_> okay i just want to know it in english and the easiest way to fix it
#2633 [19:43] <gartral> techno145: Loosly based off of Debian.. some patches from Ubuntu for the kernel.. everything else compiled from bottom-up, except for a few prebuilt debs from another time..
#2634 [19:43] <techno145> check that the crd is plugged in properly
#2635 [19:44] <lutzee> techno145: then why whould minecraft be asking about an ati card? :S
#2636 [19:44] <techno145> gartral, nice work :) I use Ubuntu for the ease
#2637 [19:44] <samcro117_> what card r u talkin about
#2638 [19:44] <techno145> the graphics
#2639 [19:44] <samcro117_> whats that
#2640 [19:44] <gartral> techno145: Ubuntu is pretty good.. Fedora has gotten really good recently..
#2641 [19:44] <techno145> it's the video card
#2642 [19:45] <techno145> gartral: cool, though I use the Gnome version
#2643 [19:45] <samcro117_> where is it located
#2644 [19:45] <techno145> Inside the computer
#2645 [19:45] <techno145> Near the back
#2646 [19:45] <techno145> Unless it's a laptop
#2647 [19:45] <samcro117_> the back of the monitor or box
#2648 [19:46] <techno145> computer box
#2649 [19:46] <techno145> case
#2650 [19:46] <techno145> chassis
#2651 [19:46] <techno145> you get the idea
#2652 [19:46] <samcro117_> oh whats it look like'
#2653 [19:46] <techno145> big swuare thing
#2654 [19:46] <techno145> *square
#2655 [19:46] <gartral> samcro117_: usually it's fairly big, center near the back, it it has 15-20+ wires coming out of it in a rainbow-shit-storm, that's your power supply.. it it has 12 or so yellow and black ones coimg out the side, that's your graphics card..
#2656 [19:46] <techno145> aka "hard drive"
#2657 [19:47] <techno145> I meant the case naem...
#2658 [19:47] <techno145> *name
#2659 [19:47] <techno145> okay
#2660 [19:47] <techno145> Not necessarily, he might have a low-end one
#2661 [19:47] <gartral> techno145: may I pm you?
#2662 [19:47] <techno145> gartral, go ahead :)
#2663 [19:49] <samcro117_> okay what do i do with it
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#2665 [19:49] <techno145> is it plugged in properly to the PCI (White bar-thing)
#2666 [19:49] <techno145> (not necessarily white)
#2667 [19:50] <gartral> samcro117_: by the way, it isn't safe too be pushing on it while your computer is *on*
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#2671 [19:52] <samcro117_> okay i stoped but how could the card be effecting only minecraft
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#2673 [19:53] <techno145> Do you have a high-end game like GTA or something?
#2674 [19:53] <techno145> run that and see what happens
#2675 [19:53] <samcro117_> yes okay
#2676 [19:54] <samcro117_> ill'need to install one
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#2679 [19:54] <techno145> stop there
#2680 [19:55] <samcro117_> okay
#2681 [19:55] <techno145> do you have a high end game?
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#2683 [19:55] <samcro117_> yes but not installed
#2684 [19:55] <techno145> installed already, i mean
#2685 [19:55] <xbonesx> lutzee: Using latest forge/etc. Using my build test env, actually. If you pass: nogui :as a param to running the jar you get the output you'd expect to see from forge (as in eclipse or in the console window of the GUI) but... nothing else. (someone else was able to put it into words i couldn't)
#2686 [19:55] <techno145> Hmm... >:|
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#2688 [19:55] <samcro117_> no i don't since the games are mine and its my parents computer
#2689 [19:55] <lutzee> xbonesx: i know what nogui does
#2690 [19:56] <lutzee> but i'm confused at why it's not accepting commands
#2691 [19:56] <gartral> lutzee: does forge load from lower-case to upper case?
#2692 [19:56] <xbonesx> i believe its accepting them just not logging back to the screen when done
#2693 [19:56] <lutzee> gartral: not sure, though everything lowercase anyway
#2694 [19:56] <xbonesx> logging back to the cmd window specifically
#2695 [19:56] <samcro117_> could it all be linked to java not working cause in the error thing it mentions java and a bug\
#2696 [19:57] <lutzee> samcro117_: no it's definately graphics issues
#2697 [19:57] <lutzee> as java says it's graphics issues
#2698 [19:57] <samcro117_> oh okay
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#2700 [19:58] <gartral> how the fuck can buildcraft be dependant on buildcraft!??!?!
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#2703 [19:59] <gartral> seriously..
#2704 [19:59] <eman1997hp> can someone explane how to get minecraft to connect to minecraft.net please?
#2705 [19:59] <lutzee> gartral: you have any ods in sub directories in the mods folder?
#2706 [19:59] <gartral> lutzee: ods?
#2707 [19:59] <gartral> oh, mods, no
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#2709 [20:00] <lutzee> hmm
#2710 [20:00] <techno145> I applaud you, AuBot
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#2712 [20:00] <techno145> :)
#2713 [20:00] <gartral> lutzee: just as a test I unloaded forestry and logipipes and buildcraft is crashing reporting a dependency on buildcraft.
#2714 [20:00] <lutzee> odd..
#2715 [20:01] <samcro117_> hey techno other games do work
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#2717 [20:02] <samcro117_> hey other games work
#2718 [20:03] <eman1997hp> anyone know how to fix minecraft not being able to connect to minecraft.net?
#2719 [20:03] <gartral> samcro117_: your java install is screwy then, reinstall java
#2720 [20:03] <eman1997hp> i just did
#2721 [20:03] <samcro117_> i have 4 times now
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#2724 [20:05] <samcro117_> well what do i do about my java
#2725 [20:05] <samcro117_> it is the version 7
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#2728 [20:06] <samcro117_> where is everyone
#2729 [20:06] <techno145> samcro117_, a) I was busy, sorry :), b) can you change the graphics?
#2730 [20:06] <techno145> as in push it up a little?
#2731 [20:07] <samcro117_> how do i do that
#2732 [20:07] <techno145> which game is it?
#2733 [20:07] <techno145> it should be in options
#2734 [20:07] <samcro117_> the one i can play or minecraft
#2735 [20:07] <techno145> The one you can play
#2736 [20:07] <samcro117_> hunting unlimited
#2737 [20:08] <techno145> Is there options
#2738 [20:08] <techno145> Are there options, sorry
#2739 [20:08] <Skatergirl> do u guys support minecraft xbox360 edition
#2740 [20:08] <techno145> yep
#2741 [20:08] <techno145> this is MINECRAFT help
#2742 [20:08] <techno145> of all kinds :)
#2743 [20:08] <samcro117_> yes
#2744 [20:09] <Skatergirl> well my character is not allowing its self to look around and i deleted my game and re downloading it
#2745 [20:09] <Skatergirl> and it still doesnt work
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#2747 [20:09] <lutzee> techno145: actually there was an xbla twitter account somewhere that delt well with the xbox version
#2748 [20:10] <techno145> okay :)
#2749 [20:10] <lutzee> To be perfectly honest most people here don't own an xbox
#2750 [20:10] <samcro117_> what do i do in the graphics part and I do :D
#2751 [20:11] <Skatergirl> ???
#2752 [20:11] <samcro117_> techno what do i do with the graphics
#2753 [20:11] <techno145> samcro117_, are you able to ramp up the graphics?
#2754 [20:11] <samcro117_> like how
#2755 [20:11] <lutzee> Skatergirl: i'm saying most of the knowlegable people here have not come close to the xbox version of the game
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#2757 [20:12] <Skatergirl> oh because i was sent here
#2758 [20:12] <techno145> turn up the resoulution and all that
#2759 [20:12] <samcro117_> skatergirl did you try to download it again
#2760 [20:12] <Skatergirl> yea
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#2762 [20:12] <techno145> sounds like a control issure
#2763 [20:13] <techno145> *issue
#2764 [20:13] <samcro117_> okay does it show up in your donwload history still
#2765 [20:13] <Skatergirl> my controller works because it works on other games but minecraft
#2766 [20:13] <Skatergirl> i have the game
#2767 [20:14] <samcro117_> okay well what type of controller settings do you have
#2768 [20:14] <Skatergirl> #i redownloaded it yesterday when i had the problem
#2769 [20:14] <Skatergirl> oh number 1
#2770 [20:14] <techno145> #2?
#2771 [20:14] <samcro117_> techno by ramping up the graphics how will that help minecraft
#2772 [20:15] <techno145> samcro117_: I want to see if your graphics are working
#2773 [20:15] <samcro117_> oh it has defalt graphics and something else
#2774 [20:15] <xbonesx> lutzee: not sure what your role is in here or anywhere else on esper.net but i made a opened an issues on the forge tracker since this didnt happen on vanilla server using my run.bat file https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/issues/172
#2775 [20:16] <lutzee> I'll try recreate the issue in a bit see what happens
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#2777 [20:18] <techno145> okay
#2778 [20:18] <samcro117_> okay techno right now its using the direct 3d8 v2.0 graphics
#2779 [20:18] <techno145> samcro117_, what kind of video card do you have
#2780 [20:18] <techno145> does it come with a fan and stuff, i mean
#2781 [20:18] <samcro117_> skatergirl has your problem been fixed
#2782 [20:18] <Skatergirl> no my controller settings is 1 i triied all three
#2783 [20:19] <samcro117_> what do you mean by fN
#2784 [20:19] <samcro117_> *FAN*
#2785 [20:19] <Skatergirl> oh ok thanks let me test it :)
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#2787 [20:20] <samcro117_> OKAY TECHNO WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY FAN
#2788 [20:20] <techno145> fan
#2789 [20:20] <techno145> what else?
#2790 [20:20] <techno145> spinning thing?
#2791 [20:20] <samcro117_> oh yes it has a fan
#2792 [20:20] <DiskDaemon> http://www.technibble.com/articlecontent/2006/08/video-card-fan-0.jpg
#2793 [20:20] <techno145> it the fan moving
#2794 [20:21] <samcro117_> i think it is not that load if it is
#2795 [20:21] <Skatergirl> my problem has not been fixed
#2796 [20:21] <samcro117_> skatergirl how did you fix it
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#2798 [20:21] <techno145> it hasn't been fixed yet
#2799 [20:21] <Skatergirl> i didnt???
#2800 [20:21] <Skatergirl> you said its fixed
#2801 [20:21] <samcro117_> oh sorry i mis read that
#2802 [20:21] <samcro117_> oh sorry i mis read that
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#2804 [20:22] <Skatergirl> like idk if its my profile cuz it works when its signed to another profi;le
#2805 [20:22] <Skatergirl> profile
#2806 [20:22] <samcro117_> well that fan is not lowd if its on techno
#2807 [20:23] <DiskDaemon> Skatergirl: What particularly doesn't work about it?
#2808 [20:23] <samcro117_> hello
#2809 [20:23] <undead> Does anyone know how to get free books
#2810 [20:24] <techno145> the fan isn't meant to be loud, it's meant to be quiet :)
#2811 [20:24] <techno145> so you don't gt all hot and bothered, like the card
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#2813 [20:24] <techno145> if the fan is oud, it needs cleaning
#2814 [20:24] <Skatergirl> my character wont look around DiskDaemon
#2815 [20:24] <techno145> *loud
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#2817 [20:25] <samcro117_> oh i forgot ho to spell it
#2818 [20:25] <Skatergirl> on my xbox
#2819 [20:25] <techno145> don't worry, we're not english teachers here :)
#2820 [20:25] <Skatergirl> lol
#2821 [20:25] <samcro117_> okay yeah its on techno
#2822 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> Skatergirl: Does that happen on a new world too?
#2823 [20:26] <Skatergirl> yes
#2824 [20:26] <samcro117_> im better at spanish for some reason
#2825 [20:26] <samcro117_> LOLOLOLOLOL
#2826 [20:26] <techno145> Okay, so the video card has power..
#2827 [20:26] <samcro117_> yeah
#2828 [20:26] <techno145> Is your screen connected to the card?
#2829 [20:26] <techno145> assuming you can, of course
#2830 [20:27] <DiskDaemon> Skatergirl: But it's okay on a new profile?
#2831 [20:27] <Skatergirl> DiskDaemon: i redownloaded it it didnt work i tried to restart my xbox i tried everything
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#2833 [20:27] <samcro117_> how would i tell
#2834 [20:27] <thadaran2344> any way somebody could help me?
#2835 [20:27] <Skatergirl> yea like when i download a different profile on my xbox and i use minecraft it works
#2836 [20:27] <techno145> Is there a plug on the back of tehe card, where the metal strip is?
#2837 [20:27] <techno145> don't ask to help, everyone
#2838 [20:27] <techno145> don't ask to help, everyone
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#2840 [20:28] <samcro117_> i think it is very hard to see
#2841 [20:28] <samcro117_> thadaran what is your problem maybe i could help
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#2843 [20:29] <thadaran2344> im having trouble playing mc on pc it keeps saying updating minecraft im trying to play demo atm
#2844 [20:29] <Berwout> don't ask to ask.. lol
#2845 [20:29] <DiskDaemon> Okay, so it sounds like the problem is not with minecraft, but with your profile instead. I'm no expert on xbox's but have you tried going to where you set up the movement settings?
#2846 [20:29] <techno145> is it from the launcher?
#2847 [20:29] <techno145> ??> thadaran2344 demo
#2848 [20:29] <VoxelHead> thadaran2344: (demo) You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#2849 [20:29] <samcro117_> oh partaily my first problem
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#2851 [20:29] <DiskDaemon> ??> thadaran2344 demo
#2852 [20:29] <VoxelHead> thadaran2344: (demo) You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
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#2854 [20:29] <thadaran2344> i tried that but the box goes white and doesnt do anything
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#2856 [20:30] <techno145> Run the launcher and see what happens
#2857 [20:30] <noahcrawford> Hey peterix?
#2858 [20:30] <samcro117_> he was having my problem techno
#2859 [20:30] <techno145> It seems to work browser-launcher
#2860 [20:30] <techno145> With the demo?
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#2862 [20:30] <samcro117_> no with the demo and my browser
#2863 [20:30] <thadaran2344> yea i click play demo on the site and it takes me to a white box
#2864 [20:31] <techno145> oh, run it off the launcher
#2865 [20:31] <Skatergirl> -.- SMFH I NEED HELP HERE
#2866 [20:31] <techno145> I'm afraid, samcro117_, that we may have overthoguht your problem
#2867 [20:31] <thadaran2344> i tried that first and like i said it says updating minecraft and deosnt to anythig
#2868 [20:31] <samcro117_> oh k
#2869 [20:31] <techno145> try the launcher second
#2870 [20:31] <techno145> it'll work (probably)
#2871 [20:31] <samcro117_> we have tha same problem
#2872 [20:31] <techno145> i tested it on Ubuntu 12.04
#2873 [20:32] <thadaran2344> would it take a long time to update it because i wait like 15 min and it doesnt do anyhting
#2874 [20:32] <techno145> so browser demo, then close the window, then run it off the launcher
#2875 [20:32] <techno145> Nope
#2876 [20:32] <DiskDaemon> Skatergirl: Repeat: I'm no expert on xbox's but have you tried going to where you set up the movement settings?
#2877 [20:32] <techno145> should take aroung 5 minutes
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#2879 [20:32] <samcro117_> skater girl is it you can't look around or is it you can not get a different camera angle
#2880 [20:33] <Skatergirl> YEA
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#2882 [20:33] <Skatergirl> yea
#2883 [20:33] <samcro117_> which one is it
#2884 [20:33] <samcro117_> techno u have a theory of my new problem
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#2886 [20:34] <Berwout> anyone needs help i can help someone
#2887 [20:34] <DiskDaemon> Berwout: There's a couple here who need help, good luck
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#2889 [20:35] * DiskDaemon is somewhat hamstrung due to arm in sling
#2889 [20:35] <samcro117_> i need to know why it just shows a blank screen when i try to launch it or play in my browser
#2890 [20:35] <techno145> DiskDaemon, how did you do that?
#2891 [20:35] <techno145> Okay, walk me through what you did on the demo
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#2893 [20:35] <techno145> The two of you
#2894 [20:36] <techno145> I may be 15, but I might be able to help you
#2895 [20:36] <Berwout> samcro117_: this could be a java problem what java version do you have?
#2896 [20:36] <techno145> It's not java
#2897 [20:36] <Berwout> techno145: i'm 15 too ^-^
#2898 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> The motorcycle came out from below me in wet and algae conditions
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#2901 [20:36] <BTA> What version of java 7 is compatible with windows 7 64bit, 8gb ram, GT 555M graphics card, and works with minecraft?
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#2903 [20:37] <Berwout> BTA: java 7 update 7 windows x64
#2904 [20:37] <techno145> There's a bug in the demo
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#2906 [20:37] <samcro117_> well um i click play from browser smae for the demo and it said updating minecraft then done loading in a flash then it say publisher unkwon and i clicked run then it went to a blank white screen
#2907 [20:37] <Skatergirl> DiskDaemaon: i have tried all three controller settings
#2908 [20:37] * Selbram|away is now known as Selbram
#2909 [20:37] <BTA> Because everytime I install java 7, minecraft can't connect online.
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#2911 [20:37] <DiskDaemon> BTA: 64-bit java from http://www.technibble.com/articlecontent/2006/08/video-card-fan-0.jpg
#2912 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> bta: from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
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#2914 [20:38] <Skatergirl> go on the link?/
#2915 [20:38] <Berwout> BTA: Make sure the new java is allowed in your firewall
#2916 [20:38] <samcro117_> i have version 7 berwout
#2917 [20:38] <BTA> ok berwout I'l try
#2918 [20:38] <Skatergirl> im sooo confuzedd
#2919 [20:38] <Berwout> samcro117_: Publisher unknown never heard of that error :\
#2920 [20:39] <DiskDaemon> Skatergirl: sorry, I don't own an xbox - you may find info of use though at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Xbox_360_Edition_issues or at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/145-minecraft-xbox-360-edition/
#2921 [20:39] <samcro117_> thats what it says when i click run
#2922 [20:39] <Skatergirl> ok
#2923 [20:40] <Berwout> insomnia is evil
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#2927 [20:41] <samcro117_> what do i do i want my money back if i cant play this game RAGE RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2928 [20:41] <techno145> It's not an error
#2929 [20:41] <techno145> It's a warning from windows for downloaded stuff
#2930 [20:42] <techno145> samcro117_: calm down
#2931 [20:42] <samcro117_> well why does it take me to a black screen GOD D****** srry LOL
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#2933 [20:43] <samcro117_> well sometimes its a black screen and somtimes its whit
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#2935 [20:43] <samcro117_> *white
#2936 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> samcro117_: You can use the troubleshooting launcher to find out why
#2937 [20:43] <techno145> if it's blacj, give it a minute
#2938 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> :ts/launcher
#2939 [20:43] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log in a folder called "log" in the minecraft game folder (along with bin, saves, and others) containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#2940 [20:43] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#2941 [20:44] <techno145> : help
#2942 [20:44] <samcro117_> what
#2943 [20:44] <techno145> what?
#2944 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> samcro117_: It will create a .minecraft/log/ folder with a report. Copy/paste the contents up to pastebin
#2945 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> ??> samcro117_ pastebin
#2946 [20:44] <VoxelHead> samcro117_: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2947 [20:45] * Selbram is now known as Selbram|away
#2948 [20:45] <Skatergirl> THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :DDDD
#2949 [20:45] <samcro117_> what i know
#2950 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> Skatergirl: you're welcome
#2951 [20:45] <techno145> +q -q?
#2952 [20:45] <BTA> instead of getting the minecraft news and updates I get this, <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect</center></font></body></html>
#2953 [20:46] <techno145> Hmm.. sounds like a network problem
#2954 [20:46] <Skatergirl> have a goodnight and goodbye thank you for you service
#2955 [20:46] <BTA> Should I try to open firewall?
#2956 [20:46] <DiskDaemon> techno145: The bot doesn't like too many repeated characters
#2957 [20:46] <techno145> okay
#2958 [20:46] <DiskDaemon> BTA: Please see http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
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#2960 [20:47] <techno145> So it kicks people who use too many characters for spam and/or flooding?
#2961 [20:47] * DiskDaemon pats bot
#2961 [20:48] <DiskDaemon> +q is to quiten people, which doesn't last for long, but long enough for them to get the message
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#2963 [20:48] <samcro117_> so what do i do
#2964 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> samcro117_: You can use the troubleshooting launcher to find out why the blackscreen occurs
#2965 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> :ts/launcher
#2966 [20:49] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log in a folder called "log" in the minecraft game folder (along with bin, saves, and others) containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#2967 [20:49] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#2968 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> samcro117_: It will create a .minecraft/log/ folder with a report. Copy/paste the contents up to pastebin
#2969 [20:49] <BTA> DiskDaemon Thanks soo much.
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#2971 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> ??> samcro117_ pastebin
#2972 [20:49] <VoxelHead> samcro117_: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#2975 [20:50] <DiskDaemon> samcro117_: Get the log, then paste it to the internet for us to see.
#2976 [20:50] <samcro117_> whatdoes ts mean
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#2978 [20:51] <samcro117_> what log i downloaded it
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#2980 [20:51] <DiskDaemon> ToubleShooter
#2981 [20:51] <DiskDaemon> TrubleShooter
#2982 [20:51] * DiskDaemon curses one-armed status
#2982 [20:51] <samcro117_> oh
#2983 [20:52] <DiskDaemon> samcro117_: The log that is created when you use the troubleshooting launcher to run
#2984 [20:52] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft
#2985 [20:54] <samcro117_> it just downoaded a minecraft launcher and theres nothing to put on pastebin
#2986 [20:54] <samcro117_> do i have to create a dropbox account
#2987 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> samcro117_: Run what you downloaded, and use it to attempt to log in to the game
#2988 [20:56] <samcro117_> i did then the screen disapeered and and icon saying hs_err_pid
#2989 [20:56] <DiskDaemon> no you don't have to create a dropbox account
#2990 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> samcro117_: your graphics card drivers need to be updated
#2991 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> ??> samcro117_ win/dxdiag
#2992 [20:57] <VoxelHead> samcro117_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2993 [20:57] <VoxelHead> samcro117_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2994 [20:57] <samcro117_> i already did this morning
#2995 [20:58] <DiskDaemon> Please provided an updated report then
#2996 [20:58] <techno145> DiskDaemon, you seem to have quite the experience with the bots
#2997 [20:58] <DiskDaemon> thanks
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#2999 [20:59] * techno145 pats bot
#2999 [20:59] <techno145> *gets electrocuted* ow.
#3000 [20:59] <skyboy> the bots are pretty easy to use well, but it can be difficult to remember vox's unique factoid usage
#3001 [21:00] <samcro117_> here http://pastebin.com/PPabCmhd
#3002 [21:00] <Juicylj2008> havin problems with gettin in because migrated
#3003 [21:00] <techno145> I have a bad memory :P
#3004 [21:01] <samcro117_> disk demon the links above
#3005 [21:01] <techno145> DiskDaemon, you mean
#3006 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> samcro117_: Is it just the intel graphics card in your computer system?
#3007 [21:01] <techno145> DIskDaemon, can't you use voice recog?
#3008 [21:01] <techno145> samcro117_ has an ATi
#3009 [21:01] <techno145> with fan
#3010 [21:02] <Juicylj2008> ican i call u
#3011 [21:02] <skyboy> where'd you gleen that from?
#3012 [21:02] <samcro117_> what the f*** is all this pardon my french
#3013 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> techno145: perhaps, but training such systems is quite a pain
#3014 [21:02] <skyboy> samcro117_: it's not french, and please be patient
#3015 [21:02] <Juicylj2008> can i call u about this problem
#3016 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> Strange, I don't see any ati in his dxdiag report.
#3017 [21:03] <samcro117_> i know its not french its a saying older peeps say
#3018 [21:03] <techno145> DiskDaemon: I know, it's quite difficult, though it sometimes is worth the difficulty
#3019 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Ack, samcro117_ still has his problem? I thought I pointed him to dell's drivers page
#3020 [21:03] <samcro117_> what do i do cause i don't under stand what your talking about
#3021 [21:04] <techno145> sam has a dell?
#3022 [21:04] <Juicylj2008> havin problems gettin in with my e mail
#3023 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> Juicylj2008: perhaps this will help http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/438361-account-migration-issues
#3024 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> Juicylj2008 - None of us here work for Mojang. It's not a good idea for you to give out your phone number here
#3025 [21:04] <skyboy> techno145: Dell Inspiron 580s
#3026 [21:04] <techno145> yep
#3027 [21:04] <lutzee> GreyVulpine: it didn't work apparently
#3028 [21:04] <samcro117_> i went there and downloaded a new driver but it did not help
#3029 [21:04] <techno145> Okay
#3030 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> lutzee - Bah
#3031 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> samcro117_ - Which driver did you download? And did you get any errors upon installation?
#3032 [21:04] <techno145> I have DXP051 with Linux
#3033 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> samcro117_: This might be relevant then
#3034 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> ??> samcro117_ gpu/discrete
#3035 [21:04] <VoxelHead> samcro117_: (gpu/discrete) Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#3036 [21:04] <VoxelHead> samcro117_: (gpu/discrete) Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#3037 [21:04] <techno145> Samcro117_, did it com with the card and a cd?
#3038 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> techno145 - No. Bad.
#3039 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Never ever suggest drivers that came from the cd with a computer
#3040 [21:05] <techno145> how come?
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#3042 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> They're dated even when they've come off from printing.
#3043 [21:05] <samcro117_> the direct 3d8 v2.0 the latest one and no problems
#3044 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> techno145: they're always out of date
#3045 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> samcro117_ - What is your dell's service tag?
#3046 [21:06] <Juicylj2008> one monent
#3047 [21:06] <samcro117_> 1p1fbp1
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#3049 [21:07] <skyboy> i have to admit, the 1632/64 display memory numbers seems familiar
#3050 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> samcro117_ - Go here: http://www.dell.com/support/troubleshooting/us/en/19/TroubleShooting/ProductSelector
#3051 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Put in 1p1fbp1 for the service tag
#3052 [21:07] <Wug> skyboy: when you deal with computers long enough, 16, 32, and 64 start to look familiar everywhere
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#3054 [21:08] <samcro117_> i did
#3055 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Go to the Drivers tab. Go to the video dropdown.
#3056 [21:08] <Juicylj2008> 6mf1hr1
#3057 [21:08] <samcro117_> did that
#3058 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to download the one labeled "R291793.exe (273969984)" for
#3059 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Radeon HD5450 1G DDR3
#3060 [21:08] <skyboy> Wug: i mean, the specific numbers for the graphics card, in addition to its, rather generic name. it seems as though i've seen identical numbers for people who had the same discrete GPU problem
#3061 [21:09] <skyboy> also, 1,632, rather than 16/32
#3062 [21:09] <samcro117_> r u sure cause my parents are mad from all these useless downloads it it dont work
#3063 [21:09] <Wug> mmk
#3064 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> I'm positive
#3065 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Your service tag already gives me the system config for your computer, which includes that exact video card
#3066 [21:10] <samcro117_> ok
#3067 [21:10] <techno145> That makes sense
#3068 [21:10] <Juicylj2008> can u fix it
#3069 [21:10] <skyboy> Juicylj2008: what's your problem, specifically?
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#3071 [21:11] <samcro117_> oh i did download that one
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#3073 [21:11] <techno145> Do you have quota or something?
#3074 [21:11] <Juicylj2008> i can log in because of the migrated
#3075 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> samcro117_ - Did you install it?
#3076 [21:11] <samcro117_> yeah\
#3077 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> samcro117_ - Did you reboot your machine afterwards?
#3078 [21:12] <samcro117_> no u mean shut da computer down
#3079 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes, and turn it back on.
#3080 [21:12] <skyboy> Juicylj2008: what's your minecraft name?
#3081 [21:12] <samcro117_> no i will though ill be back when i turn it on
#3082 [21:12] <Juicylj2008> i ca nt remember the dam passwrdmy wife put in here
#3083 [21:12] <skyboy> Juicylj2008: what's your minecraft name?
#3084 [21:13] <undead> What is the best OS for gaming?
#3085 [21:13] <techno145> Juicylj2008: he means username for minecraft
#3086 [21:13] <skyboy> undead: windows
#3087 [21:13] <techno145> for the OS, it depends
#3088 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> If you migrated your account, you can reset your password using https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#3089 [21:13] <undead> win 8 or 7?
#3090 [21:13] <Juicylj2008> let me ask my son his name
#3091 [21:13] <techno145> On RAM usage and stuff
#3092 [21:14] <undead> I hear win 8 is a catastrophe
#3093 [21:14] <skyboy> undead: XP/W7
#3094 [21:14] <techno145> undead: I don't know, I don't have it
#3095 [21:14] <techno145> personally i think Ubuntu 12.04 with wine is alright
#3096 [21:15] <techno145> But then the computer runnning it only has 1.5Gb of RAM
#3097 [21:15] <Juicylj2008> Juicylj2008 all i remember
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#3100 [21:15] <skyboy> !paid Juicylj2008
#3101 [21:16] <PuppyOnAcid> uh hi2u?
#3102 [21:16] <PuppyOnAcid> i cant seem to download the game, was wondering if anyone knew what i can do
#3103 [21:16] <techno145> did you pay for it?
#3104 [21:16] <skyboy> Juicylj2008: go to https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request to reset your password. migration sometimes corrupts the password
#3105 [21:17] <PuppyOnAcid> yea jus did
#3106 [21:17] <Juicylj2008> i paid for it
#3107 [21:17] <skyboy> PuppyOnAcid: it can take between an hour and 24 hours to process payment, please wait
#3108 [21:17] <PuppyOnAcid> oic
#3109 [21:17] <skyboy> Juicylj2008: messages directed at you will have your name in front of them, like this one.
#3110 [21:18] <PuppyOnAcid> thanks for the help...ill give it an hour or so
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#3112 [21:18] <Juicylj2008> i have had this two months
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#3114 [21:18] <skyboy> Juicylj2008: go to https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request to reset your password. migration sometimes corrupts the password
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#3117 [21:18] <samcro117> okay i rebooted it
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#3121 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> samcro117_ - Try minecraft now?
#3122 [21:20] <samcro117_> okay
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#3124 [21:20] <Juicylj2008> ok
#3125 [21:20] <samcro117_> from a launcher
#3126 [21:20] <skyboy> Juicylj2008: did you reset your password?
#3127 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3128 [21:20] <samcro117_> or from the site
#3129 [21:20] <Juicylj2008> i tryed
#3130 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> samcro117_ - Either
#3131 [21:21] <Juicylj2008> one monent
#3132 [21:21] <samcro117_> it still wont work
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#3134 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> samcro117_ - Are you sure you installed the video driver successfully from the file you downloaded?
#3135 [21:23] <samcro117_> yes
#3136 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Strange.
#3137 [21:24] <samcro117_> that same icon keeps showing up the one with hs_err_pid
#3138 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> One more try at drivers, then we'll try something different. Try downloaded these and installing them.
#3139 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3231&DwnldID=21776&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Desktop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Core%E2%84%A2+Processors+with+Intel%C2%AE+HD+Graphics&lang=eng
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#3141 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> These should be for the intel hd video chipset, instead of your ATI video card that we don't see.
#3142 [21:26] <samcro117_> if it comes down to me not being able to play is there any way to get my money back
#3143 [21:26] <joeydev> hello :D
#3144 [21:26] <Juicylj2008> thanks guys i think that worked
#3145 [21:26] <lutzee> samcro117_: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
#3146 [21:27] <joeydev> sam what is wrong?
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#3148 [21:27] <samcro117_> well hard to explain but it all comes down to me not being able to play
#3149 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft keeps complaining of a ATI video driver issue.
#3150 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> samcro117_'s dxdiag does not show an ATI video card installed.
#3151 [21:28] <joeydev> oh ok has he updated his driver?
#3152 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> The Dell service tag shows an ATI video card installed. We had samcro117_ download and install that driver
#3153 [21:28] <samcro117_> yeah i have
#3154 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> It still does not work
#3155 [21:28] * Smanly|Away is now known as Smanly
#3156 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> We're instead, trying to update the intel HD video chipset that the dxdiag does show.
#3157 [21:28] <samcro117_> its downloading that new thing
#3158 [21:28] <joeydev> oh ok
#3159 [21:28] * Juicylj2008 [Juicylj2008@notlogged] has quit. (Quit: Web client closed)
#3160 [21:29] <joeydev> are you sure its an ATI Video Card?
#3161 [21:29] <samcro117_> 45 minutes left
#3162 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> joeydev - Absolutely.
#3163 [21:29] <joeydev> it might be Intel or nvidia or
#3164 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> I've been doing tech support for years. I know the difference.
#3165 [21:30] <samcro117_> thats what they said whana check the link
#3166 [21:30] <lutzee> joeydev: it's a long story.. the PC should have the card installed but some stuff doesn't see it but some stuff doee
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#3168 [21:30] <joeydev> oh ok cool
#3169 [21:30] <joeydev> oh ok wow
#3170 [21:30] <joeydev> man sam I feel bad for u
#3171 [21:30] <skyboy> the problem is, it looks like a discrete card, and it only activates when directX is used, i think
#3172 [21:31] <joeydev> sounds like ur computer is in a pickel
#3173 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> It should still be listed as a card in dxdiag, which it does not.
#3174 [21:31] <samcro117_> i dont understand
#3175 [21:31] <joeydev> have you contacted DELL about the issue?
#3176 [21:31] <skyboy> minecraft, being opengl, doesn't trigger those things; as for whatever reason, some company(ies) has decided opengl can not be GPU intensive
#3177 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> joeydev - Weekend.
#3178 [21:32] <samcro117_> my computer is probably no better then an abacus\
#3179 [21:32] <samcro117_> LOL
#3180 [21:32] <skyboy> i'd like to argue that an abacus is easier to fix
#3181 [21:33] <joeydev> haha lol :D
#3182 [21:33] <samcro117_> hey sorry mocho man im not that great with asian stuff ecept a wii
#3183 [21:33] <skyboy> please don't be racist
#3184 [21:33] <samcro117_> LOL
#3185 [21:34] <samcro117_> im not i own a color tv
#3186 [21:34] <techno145> change the render type
#3187 [21:34] <techno145> to directX
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#3189 [21:34] <samcro117_> jk im not racist but asians do have the best computer tech thingys
#3190 [21:34] <skyboy> techno145: have you used minecraft?
#3191 [21:35] <samcro117_> 13 minutes left
#3192 [21:35] <skyboy> techno145: i'd like you to show me exactly where you can switch minecraft to use DirectX
#3193 [21:35] <techno145> Give me a sec
#3194 [21:36] <samcro117_> 11 minutes left
#3195 [21:36] <techno145> oh
#3196 [21:36] <techno145> so what happens if you turn openGL off?
#3197 [21:37] <samcro117_> whats that
#3198 [21:37] <samcro117_> 8 minutes
#3199 [21:37] <lutzee> techno145: the advanced openGL does some more fancy rendering stuff the game is still build on openGL
#3200 [21:37] <joeydev> The world comes to an end :P
#3201 [21:38] <joeydev> Ya OpenGL is what is used to generate the graphics, we use OpenGL when we make iPhone Games
#3202 [21:38] <techno145> Advanced OpenGL, sorry for the confusion :P
#3203 [21:38] <skyboy> i think what's needed is a launcher that spawns a thread that uses DirectX to render a single black pixel in the bottom right hand corner
#3204 [21:38] <samcro117_> yeah befor 2012 doomsday i need to play minecraft. *_*
#3205 [21:39] <samcro117_> 5 minutes
#3206 [21:39] <samcro117_> what do i do guys
#3207 [21:41] <samcro117_> hello
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#3209 [21:41] <samcro117_> hello
#3210 [21:41] <samcro117_> hello
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#3212 [21:41] <samcro117_> hello
#3213 [21:41] <samcro117_> hello
#3214 [21:41] * lutzee nudges GreyVulpine
#3214 [21:41] <samcro117_> hello
#3215 [21:41] <techno145> samcro117_, So you can't run the demo on either the launcher or the browser
#3216 [21:42] <techno145> also, try not to spam :)
#3217 [21:42] <samcro117_> nope or a regular premium game
#3218 [21:42] <skyboy> techno145: the demo has nothing to do with this
#3219 [21:43] <techno145> okay
#3220 [21:43] <samcro117_> hey that dont work to so that is a problem
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#3223 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Gah
#3224 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> samcro117_ - Did you install the driver from intel's site?
#3225 [21:44] <samcro117_> okay i downloaded that new thing
#3226 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Did you run the installer/
#3227 [21:44] <samcro117_> how
#3228 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean how? By double clicking on the file. Same method you used to download and run the installer you got from dell's site
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#3230 [21:46] <samcro117_> oh yeah
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#3232 [21:47] <Davtwan> I'm having trouble updating Minecraft. It tries to download Minecraft.jar, but it stops at around 4%-14% and says the connection has failed to reset.
#3233 [21:47] <Davtwan> Are there other ways I can update Minecraft? If not, how do I solve this issue with updating?
#3234 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#3235 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> Are you asking how you can update without updating?
#3236 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> Seriously?
#3237 [21:50] <techno145> :|
#3238 [21:51] <skyboy> DiskDaemon: i think he'd prefer to download the jar raw then copy it into the directory
#3239 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> Davtwan: To my knowledge, your problem is caused by antivirus prpgrams blocking the update
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#3242 [21:52] <Davtwan> ... what? I didn't ask that.
#3243 [21:52] <DiskDaemon> skyboy: The best solution is to alow the launcher to perform the update that it needs, so that you can then know how to fix things the next time it updates too
#3244 [21:52] <Davtwan> "Update without updating?" What?
#3245 [21:52] <Davtwan> OH you mean someone else, sorry.
#3246 [21:53] * DiskDaemon misreads - blame it on the pills
#3246 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> sorry, I'm one-handed for the next day or so
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#3248 [21:53] <samcro117> hello
#3249 [21:54] <techno145> hi sam
#3250 [21:54] <samcro117> okay i installed that thing now what
#3251 [21:54] <techno145> Pills
#3252 [21:54] <techno145> ?
#3253 [21:54] <samcro117> what
#3254 [21:54] <techno145> samcro117, did it askyou to restart the computer?
#3255 [21:54] <samcro117> yes
#3256 [21:54] <techno145> did you?
#3257 [21:55] <samcro117> yes
#3258 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> pain medication for a busted up shoulder
#3259 [21:55] <techno145> oh
#3260 [21:55] <techno145> and here I was thinking you just broke your arm
#3261 [21:55] <techno145> :P
#3262 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> samcro117 - Then try minecraft
#3263 [21:55] <Davtwan> There we go. Temporarily disabled AVG, it's working like a charm now. Thanks.
#3264 [21:55] <Davtwan> All done. Thanks!
#3265 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#3266 [21:56] <samcro117> i Love you guys
#3267 [21:56] <samcro117> no homo
#3268 [21:56] <techno145> come back anytime
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#3270 [21:56] <samcro117> u play mine craft
#3271 [21:56] <techno145> You might be able to help people as well :)
#3272 [21:56] <techno145> yep
#3273 [21:56] <samcro117> i will
#3274 [21:57] <samcro117> how do i get texture packs
#3275 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> samcro117 - Did.. that work?
#3276 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> samcro117: I think you might need this info too - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/
#3277 [21:57] <techno145> I think I might need this as well
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#3279 [21:57] <samcro117> yes it worked
#3280 [21:58] <techno145> Cool
#3281 [21:58] <techno145> :)
#3282 [21:58] <techno145> What kind of texture packs do you want, samcro117
#3283 [21:58] <samcro117> jhonsmith and misa
#3284 [21:58] <samcro117> johnsmith i mean
#3285 [21:59] <techno145> Googel would be helpful here
#3286 [21:59] <techno145> *Google
#3287 [21:59] <samcro117> okay thank you so much
#3288 [21:59] <techno145> I have no idea why you want misa's realistic texture pack, though
#3289 [21:59] <techno145> no problem :)
#3290 [22:00] <samcro117> i like the mobs in it thats all
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#3292 [22:02] <techno145> okay
#3293 [22:02] <samcro117> do you have any recomendations
#3294 [22:02] <techno145> I personally prefer painterly, but that's it
#3295 [22:02] <techno145> apart form default :)
#3296 [22:03] <samcro117> oh how do you download others maps
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#3301 [22:06] <samcro117> how do i get the johnsmith pack
#3302 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Google "John smith minecraft" to get to:
#3303 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/26727-johnsmith-texture-pack-v95a-32x-13x-new-update-incoming-soon/
#3304 [22:08] <samcro117> why is it so laggy for me i move every 4 seconds
#3305 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> is that lag, or framerate?
#3306 [22:09] <samcro117> i dont know it s framerate
#3307 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> The reason for a slow framerate is that the intel graphics chip in your computer is not very good at computer graphics
#3308 [22:10] <samcro117> is there a way to make it bettert
#3309 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/discrete
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#3311 [22:10] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#3312 [22:10] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#3313 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> There's apparently an ATI video card in that system of samcro117's.. but the dxdiag isn't showing it
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#3316 [22:12] <techno145> a framerate is how fast the game is going, in short
#3317 [22:13] <samcro117> oh so how can i make it faster
#3318 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> Does the 3d graphics card even work?
#3319 [22:17] <samcro117> i dont know
#3320 [22:17] <samcro117> it is like 3 seconds for each move
#3321 [22:17] <samcro117> could it be our virus protection making it slow
#3322 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> It sounds like you need to get your 3d graphics card involved in things
#3323 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/discrete
#3324 [22:18] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#3325 [22:18] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
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#3327 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> samcro117: By following advice from http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
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#3329 [22:20] <samcro117> how
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#3331 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> samcro117: I am not in a position to help you with your hardware problem
#3332 [22:21] <samcro117> i know
#3333 [22:22] <DiskDaemon> the arm on my non-damaged shoulder is getting sore from attempting to type too
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#3337 [22:29] <DncingBear> hey, I was wondering if anyone could help me out, I'm trying to have a detector-rail next to a mechanism that allows the cart to move on when it receives a redstone signal. I figured that if the detector-rail is going downwards it could work, however the detector-rail keeps powering the rail next to it, so I can't keep the cart on the detector-rail. Is there any way to work around this?
#3338 [22:29] <DncingBear> I am using railcraft-mod btw
#3339 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> Not many of us can provide help with that mod. I've never heard of it.
#3340 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#3341 [22:30] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3342 [22:30] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#3344 [22:30] <John_> i need big help
#3345 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> With?
#3346 [22:31] <John_> Well I bought Minecraft today waited an hour and it still says user not premium!
#3347 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Did you get an email confirming payment?
#3348 [22:31] <John_> I have not.
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#3350 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> What method of payment did you use? Did you call them to confirm that payment was made on their end?
#3351 [22:32] <John_> Who's end?
#3352 [22:32] <John_> Minecraft's?
#3353 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> What did you use to pay with?
#3354 [22:32] <John_> I used matercard
#3355 [22:32] <John_> Master Card sorry.
#3356 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Then call the customer support number on the back of the mastercard. Ask about the transaction you just tried to do.
#3357 [22:33] <John_> it also during the process game me error.
#3358 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> If they have no record of the payment, the transaction was never completed. If the payment was stopped or delayed, you can ask them why.
#3359 [22:35] <John_> My friend also had this problem, I am using a Walmart MoneyCrard/prepaid master card. the card said I could use it anywhere they except Master Card.
#3360 [22:35] <DiskDaemon> John_: prepaid or giftcards arn't allowed to be used for overseas payments
#3361 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Ah. The ting with prepaid cards is that they can only be used within the US. Since Mojang is based in Sweden, all purchases made from the US are international transactions for Minecraft.
#3362 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> thing*
#3363 [22:35] <DncingBear> well its not really related to the mod, the mod just provides additional solutions
#3364 [22:36] <DncingBear> but basically I need the detector-rail to not power the track next to it
#3365 [22:36] <DncingBear> is that possible?
#3366 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Prepaid cards unfortunately, have automatic anti-fraud measures in place for international transactions.
#3367 [22:36] <John_> I live in the US.
#3368 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> DncingBear - Not possible.
#3369 [22:36] <DncingBear> damn
#3370 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> John_ - Yes. And Mojang is in Sweden.
#3371 [22:36] <DiskDaemon> John_: Is it the moneycard?
#3372 [22:37] <John_> Yes, I used MoneyCard.
#3373 [22:37] <samcro117> i cant play like this RAGE!!!
#3374 [22:37] <DncingBear> would there be any way to hold a cart on 1 place, while it's sending a redstone signal, and make it move on with a redstone signal?
#3375 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> DncingBear - Kinda, yeah.
#3376 [22:37] <DncingBear> pls tell me how :)
#3377 [22:37] <John_> So how can I still buy it?
#3378 [22:37] <DncingBear> my station is almost finished, but im really stuck here
#3379 [22:37] <samcro117> rrrrr
#3380 [22:38] <John_> It says it's a debit card.
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#3382 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> John_: Here's the agreement for the walmart moneycard. https://www.walmartmoneycard.com/walmart/getacardnow/cardholderagreement
#3383 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> Dammit - he's gone. It said in bold: "YOU CANNOT USE A TEMPORARY CARD FOR CASH WITHDRAWALS
#3384 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> INCLUDING AT ATMS OR FOR PURCHASES AT MERCHANTS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES
#3385 [22:38] * GreyVulpine sighs
#3385 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> DncingBear - This was my old version of a minecart pez dispenser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG-xUBgXK4I
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#3389 [22:42] <chipeee> What do i do if my minecraft account lags so much?
#3390 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Get a better computer?
#3391 [22:43] <chipeee> i have a great laptop but it still keeps lagging
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#3393 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> chipeee`: Lag is solved by improving your networking situation between you and the server that you're connecting to
#3394 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> If it's framerate that's the problem instead of lag, then that's a very different situation from lag
#3395 [22:44] <chipeee> it lags so much it is hard to play
#3396 [22:44] <DncingBear> GreyVulpine - that would be perfect! how does it work?
#3397 [22:45] <DiskDaemon> chipeee: You can connect to a different server to improve the lag situation
#3398 [22:45] <chipeee> its not my connection it is the game because i tried it offline and it still lags bad
#3399 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> It's a combination of a pez dispenser, and a series of gates
#3400 [22:46] <DncingBear> im more interested in the gates, since my pez dispensers are allready running
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#3402 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> chipeee: In that case, you are incorrect for using the term "lag" and must instead be suffering from a slow framerate
#3403 [22:46] <chipeee> what is that?
#3404 [22:46] <DncingBear> basically, I have a circuit from one end of my pez dispensers to the other end, so there's constantly carts running
#3405 [22:47] <DiskDaemon> chipeee: What is a slow framerate?
#3406 [22:47] <chipeee> i dont know
#3407 [22:47] <DiskDaemon> chipeee: A slow framerate is where your graphics display is updates at only around 5 frames per second, for example
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#3409 [22:47] <DncingBear> and if no cart is standing at the departures, it changes the track, so a cart will take its place
#3410 [22:48] <DiskDaemon> chipeee: Can you explain in words the problem that you are experiencing?
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#3412 [22:48] <DncingBear> but for cosmetic, as well as technical reasons, I have 2 carts at each departure-section
#3413 [22:48] <DncingBear> one below ground and one above
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#3415 [22:48] <DncingBear> what im trying to do is make the one below ground, take the one above ground's space when it departs
#3416 [22:49] <DncingBear> place*
#3417 [22:49] <BTA> I have java 7, windows 7 64, nvida gt 555M and when i try to connect to a server It says failed to verify username, I also had to redirect my minecraft java to ipv4 address.
#3418 [22:49] <VoxelHead> BTA - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#3419 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Yeah. I believe I did all that, with Wug's help, using RS NOR latches
#3420 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> chipeee: For an education about lag, please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lag
#3421 [22:50] <DncingBear> RS NOR latches?
#3422 [22:50] * GreyVulpine nods
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#3423 [22:50] <DncingBear> gonna google it, sec
#3424 [22:50] <DiskDaemon> RS NOR latches are a switching mechanism where one input turns them on, and a different input turns them off
#3425 [22:51] <DncingBear> awesome!
#3426 [22:51] <DncingBear> didnt know u could do that, that's perfect
#3427 [22:51] <techno145> ??> BTA lag
#3428 [22:51] <techno145> sorry
#3429 [22:51] <DncingBear> thanks a bunch GreyVulpine, I believe I can continue my work now
#3430 [22:52] <techno145> any idea why the servers are down?
#3431 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/
#3432 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> The service status looks to be all green to me
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#3434 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. hmm. Wonder why Vox gave that message
#3435 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> failed to verify
#3436 [22:55] <VoxelHead> GreyVulpine - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#3437 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Hrm.. that needs to be fixed
#3438 [22:56] <techno145> Yay, the word database has been fixed! :D
#3439 [22:56] <techno145> lost connection
#3440 [22:56] <techno145> ..
#3441 [22:56] <techno145> That happens all the time, or I get a time-out
#3442 [22:56] <techno145> using the server software (jar
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#3444 [23:06] <samcro117> im lookin for ways to improve my framerate
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#3446 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> samcro117: The best way is to use better hardware
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#3448 [23:07] <Dawgie3000> Hey can someone get the DNS for login.minecraft.net?
#3449 [23:07] <samcro117> i know but its not my computer
#3450 [23:07] <samcro117> i increased by much from youtube
#3451 [23:08] <tmakk> I can't play minecraft through the web and I have java 6 installed for mac os x, why is that?
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#3453 [23:08] <lutzee> samcro117: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/
#3454 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> samcro117: Then you can keep that in mind when you get to buy your own computer
#3455 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> samcro117: This article may help http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/52697-dell-intergrated-graphics-chip-open-gl-errors-solved/
#3456 [23:09] <Dawgie3000> Hey is wug online?
#3457 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, perhaps not. It looks like you've already applied the advice from that article
#3458 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> samcro117: You can get some subtle improvement by following the detailed information from http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/
#3459 [23:10] <Dawgie3000> hey are you having speed issues?
#3460 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> samcro117: But fundamentally, slow hardware is slow - you'll always be handicapped with that
#3461 [23:10] <Dawgie3000> He could always try ready boost if he is on windows 7 or vista i think
#3462 [23:11] <DiskDaemon> Dawgie3000: He's trying to play Minecraft on a slow Intel graphics chip that doesn't support 3D graphics
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#3464 [23:11] <Dawgie3000> Oh not smart
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#3466 [23:15] <tonynoname> !seen lukario45
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#3476 [23:18] <samcro117> hey u guys know any good maps
#3477 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> Vechs does good maps
#3478 [23:29] <samcro117> well do i need mcpatcher to get texture packs
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#3480 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> depends on the texture pack
#3481 [23:38] <DiskDaemon> 16x textures, no. For 32x textures or higher, yes
#3482 [23:38] <DiskDaemon> or instead of mcpatcher you can use optifine
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#3485 [23:41] <Cheshire_Bandit> Hi!
#3486 [23:41] <Cheshire_Bandit> Anybody down to answer a question?
#3487 [23:42] <Cheshire_Bandit> Anybody?
#3488 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> sure
#3489 [23:43] * DiskDaemon sulks
#3489 [23:43] <Cheshire_Bandit> Thanks
#3490 [23:43] <Cheshire_Bandit> I don't know if you can help me.
#3491 [23:44] <Cheshire_Bandit> No matter what server I play on, I always get really bad lag. I did an internet speed test, and my internet is BLAZING fast. And my computer is top-notch. Like, I built it 2 months ago, and it plays intense games.
#3492 [23:45] <Cheshire_Bandit> I cannot, for the life of me, figure out my lag issues...
#3493 [23:45] * Selbram|away is now known as Selbram
#3494 [23:45] <Cheshire_Bandit> I've even tried turning off Windows Firewall.
#3495 [23:45] <Cheshire_Bandit> That made no difference.
#3496 [23:45] <DiskDaemon> perhaps it's your understanding od what "lag" is, that is the issue? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lag
#3497 [23:46] <Cheshire_Bandit> Okay, well let me check this link out.
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#3499 [23:46] <Cheshire_Bandit> But regardless of what I'm calling it, I get really choppy movements of other players and mobs.
#3500 [23:46] <Cheshire_Bandit> No I'm pretty sure I get exactly what lag is.
#3501 [23:47] <Cheshire_Bandit> I've been gaming for a long time.
#3502 [23:48] <DiskDaemon> So it's not a low framerate issue?
#3503 [23:48] <Cheshire_Bandit> I don't think so. What would be a low framerate? I'll check it out right now.
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#3505 [23:48] <Cheshire_Bandit> And what would cause a low framerate?
#3506 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> f3 in minecraft while playing
#3507 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> ell us the fps value
#3508 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> That's good, we all too often have people coming in with such issues, calling that lag instead
#3509 [23:49] <Cheshire_Bandit> Okay I'm getting 60 fps.
#3510 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> if it's below 30, you ca experience graphical....
#3511 [23:50] <DiskDaemon> that's fine then
#3512 [23:50] <Cheshire_Bandit> I thought it was lol
#3513 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> then when do you experience this lag?
#3514 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> during a multiplayer game?
#3515 [23:51] <Cheshire_Bandit> Yes, only in multiplayer. And it's pretty much constant. There will be a delay on blocks dropping when I mine them, crafting things, but most noticeably, it's choppy movements.
#3516 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> are you experiencing this on one server, oe all?
#3517 [23:52] <Cheshire_Bandit> Other players and mobs will be walking and kind of skip. It makes it almost IMPOSSIBLE to fight things and people effectively.
#3518 [23:52] <Cheshire_Bandit> And it happens on EVERY server.
#3519 [23:52] <Cheshire_Bandit> And again, my own internet connection is bangin'.
#3520 [23:53] <Cheshire_Bandit> 35 Mbps downstream and 5 Upstream.
#3521 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Please give us a speedtest.net result?
#3522 [23:54] <Cheshire_Bandit> Just did.
#3523 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> bandwidth is one thing. I'm also looking for your latency as well
#3524 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> speedtest should give you a link to a picture you can share
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#3526 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> there's further info there that can be useful. Share the result, and please provide us with a link to it
#3527 [23:55] <Cheshire_Bandit> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2184128817.png
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#3530 [23:55] <McMuffin> Hello
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#3534 [23:56] <Cheshire_Bandit> Did you get the link?
#3535 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> That looks fine by me.
#3536 [23:56] <Cheshire_Bandit> Okay.
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#3538 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Could you try a server like s.nerd.nu ?
#3539 [23:57] <Cheshire_Bandit> s.nerd.nu? You mean in-game?
#3540 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> it's reddit's survival server
#3541 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> yes
#3542 [23:57] <Cheshire_Bandit> Okay. gimme just a second
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