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#3 [00:06] <vidieowiz4> hello?
#4 [00:06] <vidieowiz4> anyone there?
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#9 [00:17] <mickster04> yus
#10 [00:17] <mickster04> !check 54.251.32.244
#11 [00:18] <mickster04> !check
#12 [00:18] <mickster04> !check /me
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#15 [00:22] <nick> i can't craft a flower pot?
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#17 [00:22] <Guest29144> i can't craft a flower pot
#18 [00:23] <Guest29144> someone that can helt me? i have tried and signs i can't craft either,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
#19 [00:30] <mickster04> !check
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#21 [00:33] * zkxs ** WinSys ** Client: HexChat 2.9.1 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz (2.00 GHz) ** RAM: 8091 MB Total (4302 MB Free) ** VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M ** Uptime: 9.53 Hours **
#21 [00:36] <skyboy> xkxs: what was that?
#22 [00:38] <zkxs> oh crap? that was public?
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#24 [00:38] <skyboy> quite
#25 [00:38] <zkxs> Well, that is a stupid "feature"
#26 [00:38] <skyboy> you should be able to turn it off, as other users have hexchat and it doesn't do that
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#28 [00:39] <zkxs> It was an install option that I checked, not realizing the command's output was public... well, this is what I get for not reading the manual
#29 [00:39] <skyboy> but no one reads manuals
#30 [00:39] * GreyVulpine snrks
#30 [00:40] <skyboy> it's true, that's why we get users with 64 MB of video memory, or less
#31 [00:41] <zkxs> Well, you have to give them some credit... Minecraft doesn't exactly come with a manual
#32 [00:41] <skyboy> it does at least have an extensive and very well updated wiki
#33 [00:42] <skyboy> not quite a manual, just as we're not quite help staff
#34 [00:43] <zkxs> bleh, apparenly /dns isn't as cool in hexchat
#35 [00:43] <skyboy> at least you're not using tinyirc
#36 [00:43] <skyboy> or quassal
#37 [00:44] <zkxs> I have xchat on my linux box back at my house. In my dorm, I just have a windows laptop. I finally got around to installing an IRC client...
#38 [00:45] <zkxs> And now you poor folks are being subjected to my tomfoolery
#39 [00:46] <skyboy> my tomfoolery got me banned by vox a few hours ago. apparently changing your nick 5 times in 2-3 minutes triggers it
#40 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> That it does
#41 [00:46] <mickster04> why isn't anyone using irssi?
#42 [00:47] <zkxs> because mouse?
#43 [00:47] * skyboy <3 mouse
#43 [00:49] <skyboy> i really should set chatzilla up to run from xul runner
#44 [00:49] <mickster04> why mouse when you can COMMAND!
#45 [00:50] <skyboy> the same reason we IDE when we can notepad (or worse, console+echo)
#46 [00:50] <mickster04> ha ha ha, fair enough
#47 [00:50] <zkxs> vim?
#48 [00:50] <mickster04> although ide vs notepad is noticable improvement, mouse vs keyboard? not so much
#49 [00:51] <skyboy> actually, that was a bad comparison
#50 [00:51] <skyboy> *why we IDE when we can punchcard
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#52 [00:51] <mickster04> not even!
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#54 [00:52] <skyboy> mickster04: in a single mouse gesture taking a single click, i can copy text from one program to another
#55 [00:52] <mickster04> unless your punch card are punch by naked women shooting bullets of glory and honour
#56 [00:52] <mickster04> you mean click and drag?
#57 [00:52] <skyboy> quite
#58 [00:53] <skyboy> also, naked women absolutely do not make up for the horrible inaccuracy of the bullets
#59 [00:53] <skyboy> it'd take months to write hello world that way
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#61 [00:53] <mickster04> spoil sport
#62 [00:53] * mickster04 wants my naked armed ladies
#62 [00:54] <skyboy> so long as you don't use the bullets for programming
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#64 [00:54] <skyboy> if you do, the FORTRAN gods will hunt you down
#65 [00:54] <skyboy> i may have an extra R there
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#71 [01:02] <king65hi> Hello i need help please
#72 [01:03] <zkxs> With what?
#73 [01:04] <king65hi> Ok so
#74 [01:04] <king65hi> My minecraft account
#75 [01:04] <king65hi> Wont log in
#76 [01:04] <king65hi> Neither will it log on to minecraft.net
#77 [01:04] <skyboy> please use fewer lines; and what error are you getting?
#78 [01:07] <king65hi> Well first off i was logging in to minecraft.net to change my skin but when i logged in nothing happened like no error message so i tried a random password and it would give me incorrect password or username so it was blank with correct password and then i went to mojang.com to change password i then tried to log onto minecraft.jar it now says you have entered password incorect to many times and im like wtf so im frea
#79 [01:08] <skyboy> ..most people don't actually exceed the IRC character limit when i ask them to use fewer lines. i'm impressed.
#80 [01:08] <king65hi> Please i really need help.
#81 [01:08] <king65hi> Oh
#82 [01:09] <skyboy> is your minecraft username king65hi?
#83 [01:09] <king65hi> yes
#84 [01:09] <skyboy> !paid king65hi
#85 [01:09] <king65hi> But i got my minecraft account migrated from mojang.
#86 [01:10] <skyboy> are you logging in with your mojang account's email address?
#87 [01:11] <king65hi> Yes indeed i am but I tried logging into minecraft.net and it didnt work like the correct password it will just leave the page blank like no error so than ill try a random password and ill get error message; Incorrect username or password.
#88 [01:11] <mickster04> !account
#89 [01:13] <king65hi> What should i do?
#90 [01:13] <skyboy> some account's minecraft passwords are corrupted during a migration, so you may need to reset your password using this form: https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#91 [01:14] <king65hi> When i clicked the link i then went to my email and never got an email/
#92 [01:14] <skyboy> did you enter your email and click the button?
#93 [01:15] <king65hi> Yes
#94 [01:15] <king65hi> Ok so i clicked my old email from like 30 mins ago when i changed and i than changed it
#95 [01:15] <skyboy> the email may take some time to arrive
#96 [01:16] <king65hi> Can i un migrate it?
#97 [01:16] <skyboy> no
#98 [01:16] <mickster04> !password
#99 [01:16] <king65hi> Now im getting unknown username or password
#100 [01:17] <king65hi> Ok so i then click on minecraft.net change username or password it says no such user king65hi and no such user - my email.
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#103 [01:18] <king65hi> !account
#104 [01:19] <skyboy> !paid king65hi
#105 [01:20] <king65hi> yes ive paid
#106 [01:20] <king65hi> 1 year ago
#107 [01:20] <king65hi> on may 15
#108 [01:20] <FNG> Alright, I paid the money, downloaded the software, but when I double click and run it, a Minecraft box opens up but there is nothing in it. And that's it, nothing else happens. So what's the deal?
#109 [01:21] <skyboy> FNG: you computer may need updated drivers or it may not be powerful enough to run minecraft, or one of dozens of other problems
#110 [01:22] <king65hi> Alright minecraft.jar just worked but i want to change my skin
#111 [01:22] <skyboy> ??> FNG win/dxdiag
#112 [01:22] <VoxelHead> FNG: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#113 [01:22] <VoxelHead> FNG: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#114 [01:22] <king65hi> Is there a way to change skin without minecraft.net?
#115 [01:23] <skyboy> king65hi: i don't know; i haven't actually bothered, as i typically stick to single player
#116 [01:24] <Naranja_Swagged> Why can't I buy minecraft? I tried Monkeybookers, Visa, Visa Electron and PayPal with my 50$ Walmart giftcard.
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#118 [01:24] <king65hi> Well i have a team and i need a specific skin for this team that i made and i cant wear it because i dont have the minecraft.net loggin
#119 [01:26] <king65hi> And Naranja A walmart card would probly not work on buying minecraft
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#122 [01:32] <FNG> Voxel head - there is a lot of information in this file. Is there something specific that you want to look at?
#123 [01:33] <skyboy> FNG: paste it all to pastebin.com
#124 [01:35] <zkxs> The only thing in it that's personal would be the name of the computer you're on and the account name that you were using when you generated the file, everything else is just hardware and driver info.
#125 [01:44] <skyboy> FNG: while there isn't anyone else currently asking for help, it's not as though we can wait forever for your response
#126 [01:47] <FNG> Alright, I put it out there. Where is the IRC Channel?
#127 [01:47] <skyboy> you're chatting in it
#128 [01:47] <FNG> http://pastebin.com/j7eYXRrj
#129 [01:49] <skyboy> ??> FNG gpu/amd
#130 [01:49] <VoxelHead> FNG: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#131 [01:49] <skyboy> getting the updated drivers from there should resolve your issue
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#134 [01:50] <zkxs> yum, 127 MB of dedicated video memory
#135 [01:51] <skyboy> zkxs: it's workable, at least
#136 [01:51] <Smanly> Pretty sure I played on like 64mb...
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#138 [01:54] <FNG> Do I want the Catalyst Suite Software or the WDM Integrated software?
#139 [01:55] <skyboy> whichever is recommended
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#141 [01:57] <king65hi> How can i change my minecraft skin i cant login to minecraft.net
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#144 [02:00] <Smanly> king65hi: What is the issue?
#145 [02:01] <king65hi> I cannont log in to minecraft.net i think because i migrated my account.
#146 [02:01] <Smanly> What is preventing you from logging in?
#147 [02:01] <king65hi> I can log on to minecraft.jar
#148 [02:01] <king65hi> But cant log on to minecraft.net
#149 [02:02] <Smanly> Right, I understand that you cannot.
#150 [02:02] <king65hi> And ive heard that once u migrate u cant log on to minecraft.net i just want to change my skin
#151 [02:02] <Smanly> Thats not true.
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#153 [02:02] <king65hi> Please help
#154 [02:02] <Smanly> are you trying with your email adress or your username?
#155 [02:02] <king65hi> Email
#156 [02:02] <Smanly> Try your username, I guess.
#157 [02:03] <king65hi> I have
#158 [02:03] <Smanly> What does it say when you try?
#159 [02:03] <king65hi> Incorect password
#160 [02:04] <king65hi> But it works on minecraft.jar and mojang.com
#161 [02:04] <Smanly> Hmm...
#162 [02:04] <Smanly> I am not sure what the issue could be.
#163 [02:04] <king65hi> I want to change my skin thats all
#164 [02:06] <Smanly> king65hi: What have you done to help reslove the issue?
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#169 [02:13] <FNG> Wow, that actually worked...thanks for your help!!!
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#192 [03:54] <rumpler> does someone know what i have to change if Warpz0r ever tells "Not allowed to warp between Worlds"? i cant find a option, i remember there was something to change/allow it. but i cant find it anymore :(
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#194 [03:55] <rumpler> admins are able to warp between worlds, players not...
#195 [03:55] <Andrio> ??> rumpler mods
#196 [03:55] <VoxelHead> rumpler: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
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#198 [03:55] <VoxelHead> rumpler: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#199 [03:56] <rumpler> hmmm, wich channel would it be for the bukkit server mods?
#200 [03:56] <rumpler> ah
#201 [03:56] <rumpler> nvm :p thanks
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#207 [04:11] <eliskandar> I've found zombies and creepers that just stand there and do me no damage. Are these something like NPCs?
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#217 [05:11] <kami> erm, i also cannot login to minecraft.net
#218 [05:12] <kami> i can log in to minecraft just fine, and i can login into mojang, but i can't login into minecraft.net. I have migrated my account. When i try to log in i just get thrown back to log in page w/o any message whatsoever
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#228 [05:46] <RustleLOL> Hey, anyone here?
#229 [05:46] <RustleLOL> I have a small problem
#230 [05:47] <RustleLOL> Hello?
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#236 [06:18] <weirdo> is there a way to expand (down) a flatland? it sucks that it has only 3 blocks down, we need it with up to 50+ blocks down... even flat, just more to go down...
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#241 [06:33] <Curtis_> Hi
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#244 [07:02] <mickster04> sup
#245 [07:02] <mickster04> sup
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#261 [08:22] <Ponyash> Hi all
#262 [08:22] <Ponyash> I sent in the morning an error report to Mojang, but they did not answer
#263 [08:22] <Andrio> Hello
#264 [08:22] <Andrio> Mojang are behind on that by several months from what I've heard >_>
#265 [08:23] <Ponyash> Oh(
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#279 [09:03] <harrys> hello
#280 [09:04] <Andrio> Hello
#281 [09:04] <harrys> i need help, i get read timed out error after playing a server for around 15 seconds
#282 [09:04] <harrys> this happens with every server now :/
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#286 [09:06] <harrys> any help?
#287 [09:07] <Andrio> do yo get any other Internet-related problems? Could be your connection.
#288 [09:07] <Andrio> you*
#289 [09:07] <harrys> nope everything runs fine
#290 [09:08] <harrys> its only minecraft
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#292 [09:08] <Andrio> I've had similar problems at school, and Google often times out too
#293 [09:08] <Zyriel> hi
#294 [09:08] <Andrio> Hi
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#296 [09:08] <Zyriel> could some kind person spare a minute for me with explaining some details about hosting vanilla 1.3.2 server
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#298 [09:09] <Zyriel> i need some tips about how to change the server ip
#299 [09:09] <Zyriel> tfor example if i want to make LAN game over VPN
#300 [09:10] <Zyriel> if all else fails then do i need to run server separately ?
#301 [09:10] <Zyriel> the SSP and SMP integrated stuff is bit confusing for me
#302 [09:10] <itzmjauz> ohai
#303 [09:10] <Zyriel> hi mjauz
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#305 [09:11] <ThomQ> Hi all!
#306 [09:11] <itzmjauz> Oh ever tried hosting an 'over LAN' game with hamachi tunneling it ?
#307 [09:12] <Zyriel> hi ThomQ
#308 [09:12] <Zyriel> yes mjauz thats what im trying to do
#309 [09:12] <ThomQ> itzmjauz: Not in Years! :D
#310 [09:12] <itzmjauz> Makes you able to run a server without running a server.
#311 [09:12] <Zyriel> thing is that when i make SSP and then convert it to LAN game it uses my localhost ip
#312 [09:12] <itzmjauz> :D
#313 [09:12] <Zyriel> i want it to use my hamachi ip instead
#314 [09:12] <itzmjauz> Zyriel: ye, set hamachi network to your preffered Adapter
#315 [09:13] <itzmjauz> Zyriel: If you're using windows 7. I don't know about earlier versions of windows.
#316 [09:13] <itzmjauz> Zyriel: I'm going to try making it work on unix system's, if i feel like it
#317 [09:13] <Zyriel> yeah by shifting it nr 1 in list , know that done that but i want to find my servers config file
#318 [09:13] <Zyriel> it used to be server propeties
#319 [09:14] <itzmjauz> Zyriel: you set those the moment you open to LAN
#320 [09:14] <itzmjauz> Zyriel: You don't have those.
#321 [09:14] <Zyriel> wher ei cna set pvp, flight / motd ...
#322 [09:14] <itzmjauz> Zyriel: Open to LAN, it isn't a real server
#323 [09:14] <Zyriel> aww
#324 [09:14] <itzmjauz> Zyriel: make cheatin' available
#325 [09:14] <Zyriel> so the best thing would be to download server from MC homepage ?
#326 [09:15] <itzmjauz> Zyriel: I'd suggest a bukkit server.
#327 [09:15] <Zyriel> but bukkit doenst have 1.3.2
#328 [09:15] <itzmjauz> ah.
#329 [09:15] <Zyriel> latest bukkit is 1.3.1
#330 [09:15] <Zyriel> its supposedly working with 1.3.2 too but...
#331 [09:15] <itzmjauz> Zyriel: Fuck bukkit then. MC homepage is fine in that case
#332 [09:15] * AuBot kicked itzmjauz from #minecrafthelp (Reason: tzmjauz :Please keep it civil.)
#333 [09:15] <Zyriel> i want to add some modas that uses forge
#334 [09:15] <Zyriel> im oldtime mcpc user
#335 [09:16] <Zyriel> loved it but its prolly gonna take too long for all the mods ported to 1.3.2
#336 [09:16] <Zyriel> basically ill use BC , IC , and some other tiny ones
#337 [09:16] <Zyriel> sadly RP wont be 1.3.2 anytime soon
#338 [09:17] <Zyriel> Buildcraft IndustrialCraft and RedPower < my all time favourite mods
#339 [09:17] <Zyriel> Forestry and Equivalent Exchange kinda ruining SMP
#340 [09:18] <ThomQ> I have a question about Mods.. But, it's not a support question, and I do know this is not a mod channel, so please don't be so rough :P
#341 [09:18] <Necrodoom> theres bukkit for minecraft 1.3.2 aswell
#342 [09:18] <Zyriel> Necro care to drop a link ?
#343 [09:18] <Necrodoom> also you can connect with 1.3.2 client to 1.3.1 servers fine
#344 [09:18] <Necrodoom> its a beta build
#345 [09:18] <Zyriel> yeha i read that somewhere
#346 [09:18] <ThomQ> I see a lot of epic mods wich Aren't bukkit mods.. Is there a technical reason that mods arent developed for Bukkit? as in, does Bukkit have its limits to what you can do?
#347 [09:19] <Zyriel> but if i go bukkit id preffer bukkit with forge
#348 [09:19] <Zyriel> the mcpc build
#349 [09:19] <Necrodoom> ThomQ: bukkit changed a lot of the server jar
#350 [09:19] <Zyriel> ThomQ i used bukkit for long time
#351 [09:19] <Zyriel> and up to 1.2.5. its perfect
#352 [09:20] <Zyriel> most mods run smoothly
#353 [09:20] <ThomQ> uhuh.. But Bukkit can use texture packs as plugins, right? I see here for example a Minecraft Tornado Mod, wich looks epic, but isn't a bukkit plugin
#354 [09:20] <ThomQ> i was just wondering if it was the mods designer's personal choice not to make it a bukkit plugin, or wheter it isn't even possible with Bukkit
#355 [09:20] <Zyriel> erm ... 2 totally different things > 1.plugin , 2.bukkit mod
#356 [09:21] <ThomQ> they are? :P In what way?
#357 [09:21] <Zyriel> plugins are mostly like server mods
#358 [09:21] <Necrodoom> plugin means a bukkit plugin
#359 [09:21] <Necrodoom> which dont modify anything on the server
#360 [09:21] <Zyriel> meaning clients done have to have anything installed to hav it working too
#361 [09:21] <Necrodoom> well, of the code of it
#362 [09:21] <Necrodoom> mods change something of minecraft/bukkit
#363 [09:22] <Zyriel> ThomQ i have few questions - so i can guide you to right path
#364 [09:22] <ThomQ> Ahh ok, in that way.. Yeah I understand..
#365 [09:22] <ThomQ> Zyriel: Shoot :D
#366 [09:23] <Zyriel> could you specify the purpose of your server
#367 [09:23] <Zyriel> how many clients - how well you know them ... etc
#368 [09:23] <Zyriel> you want PvP server and do you need protection against stealing/griefing ?
#369 [09:23] <ThomQ> yeah mostly for friends, about 5 of them. They're all decent to pathetic with any general computer skills, so I woulnd't want them all to have to install mods
#370 [09:24] <ThomQ> Survival mode for now, but we'll be doing some PvP'ing in the future
#371 [09:24] <Zyriel> ok ThomQ what i would suggest you to do > make the non-bukkit server and install all the mods you want/need to it
#372 [09:25] <Zyriel> then make client modded the same way
#373 [09:25] <ThomQ> and then just pass around the client?
#374 [09:25] <Zyriel> some mods might need Block ID conflicts resolved
#375 [09:25] <Zyriel> tso you make client+server on your machine to run smoothly then pack the client and send it to your friends
#376 [09:25] <Zyriel> they dont have ton have any other skills than to unpack
#377 [09:25] <Zyriel> yup
#378 [09:26] <Zyriel> i did it with my 8 friends
#379 [09:26] <Zyriel> been having like 8 months superfun with them
#380 [09:26] <Zyriel> no need to proctect chests or houses - no thieves no griefers so no point to really have bukkit
#381 [09:26] <ThomQ> Yeah, I can see the advantage to that. Because we're playing with a small circle, its easy to pass around clients, and you can install more mods etc
#382 [09:26] <Zyriel> what version of the game you would like to try ?
#383 [09:27] <ThomQ> I wanted bukkit for some minecart plugins, some chests i'd want to lock and a jail
#384 [09:27] <Zyriel> k
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#386 [09:27] <ThomQ> what version? You mean gamemode?
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#388 [09:27] <Zyriel> naah MC version
#389 [09:27] <ThomQ> 1.3.2
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#391 [09:28] <ThomQ> i already modded their clients though, installed forge & optifine for them
#392 [09:28] <Zyriel> if 1.2.5 then best is to use MCPC and alot of mods are working , if 1.3.2 then theres not too many mods working well yet
#393 [09:28] <Zyriel> also i have zero experience with hosting 1.3.2 bukkit server
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#395 [09:28] <ThomQ> yeah true, Tekkit as a whole uses 1.2.5 right?
#396 [09:28] <Necrodoom> yep
#397 [09:28] <Zyriel> yup
#398 [09:29] <ThomQ> up til now I've had no problems with the server, none
#399 [09:29] <Zyriel> but tekkit has some problems using forge 3.3.8.164
#400 [09:29] <ThomQ> Ow yeah, 1 disconnect.overflow , had to tune down max view distance
#401 [09:29] <Zyriel> and many mods wont like over 152
#402 [09:29] <ThomQ> you do miss out on a lot of features though, if you're playing 1.2.5, right?>
#403 [09:30] <Zyriel> yeah
#404 [09:30] <Zyriel> but... you also miss out alot of bugs
#405 [09:30] <Necrodoom> nothing that isnt included in 1.2.5 mods, i remeber
#406 [09:30] <ThomQ> :D
#407 [09:30] <Zyriel> if it was vanilla game then definately 1.3.2 would be much better
#408 [09:30] <Necrodoom> enderchest is something that was already added
#409 [09:30] <Zyriel> but heavily modded - theres no much difference
#410 [09:30] <Necrodoom> aswell as emeralds
#411 [09:30] <Zyriel> except 1.3.2 has less mods
#412 [09:31] <Necrodoom> and so damn buggy
#413 [09:31] <Zyriel> you can have enderchest in 1.2.5
#414 [09:31] <Necrodoom> and 1.2.5 enderchest mods are generally much better
#415 [09:31] <Zyriel> and emeralds and rubys and sapphires (from RedPower)
#416 [09:31] <ThomQ> I really want that carrot on a stick from the latests dev builds :P
#417 [09:31] <Zyriel> i personally like the ChickenCore+ EnderStorage alot
#418 [09:32] <Zyriel> lmao at carrot :)
#419 [09:32] <Zyriel> yeha its neat feature for about 2 days
#420 [09:32] <ThomQ> :P:P
#421 [09:32] <Zyriel> thom im almost in the same situation
#422 [09:32] <Zyriel> i wanna try 1.3.2 with as many stable mods as i can
#423 [09:32] <ThomQ> i hope the main thing they're focussing on in future builds is Tougher survival mode, with some more surprises
#424 [09:33] <Zyriel> there is IC and BC but they are not too stable yet on 1.3.2
#425 [09:33] <ThomQ> Zyriel: that'll probably be a trial & error procedure then
#426 [09:33] <Zyriel> yup
#427 [09:33] <ThomQ> yeah, i've looked into those as well
#428 [09:33] <Zyriel> i will probably miss the RedPower mod the most
#429 [09:33] <ThomQ> but I gathered, If i do those 2, I could just as easily run a tekkit server
#430 [09:33] <Zyriel> and im gonna try the stuff without bukkit for now
#431 [09:34] <Zyriel> there is tekkit 1.3.2 ?
#432 [09:35] <Necrodoom> nope
#433 [09:35] <ThomQ> yeah no there isn't.. But since IC & BC combined is such an impact on the game, I could just as well host a 1.2.5 tekkit server, and lose those vanilla features from 1.3.2
#434 [09:35] <Necrodoom> tekkit uses bukkit, so you can use 1.2.5 bukkit plugins
#435 [09:36] <Zyriel> if you dont want any cheats and dislike NEI then go with mod named "RecipeBook"
#436 [09:36] <Zyriel> works fine in 1.3.2
#437 [09:36] <Zyriel> also i suggest MorePaintings mod
#438 [09:36] <ThomQ> I was looking at something for that as a Bukkit plugin
#439 [09:37] <ThomQ> i would love to use custom images as paintings, on the fly
#440 [09:37] <Zyriel> thats just my taste > to add as much as i can without generating lag/bugs and without breaking the game for making it way too easy-or cheatable
#441 [09:37] <Necrodoom> Zyriel: DS techpack?
#442 [09:38] <ThomQ> hmm, i feel that even vanilla set on hardest is a bit too easy :P after a day or two of building, you really have to go look for danger
#443 [09:38] <Zyriel> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1004963-more-paintings-v211/
#444 [09:38] <ThomQ> thats one of the features i'd like to see, a full frontal mob attack once in a while :P
#445 [09:38] <Zyriel> Necro theres so much thta i dont like in the techpack :)
#446 [09:39] <Zyriel> ThomQ that link has the painting thing for 1.2.5 and 1.3.2 too
#447 [09:39] <Zyriel> i used the Insane edition
#448 [09:39] <ThomQ> another thing: I love my cobblestone farm.. But i also hate it :P it also makes it a bit too easy
#449 [09:39] <Zyriel> lol
#450 [09:39] <Zyriel> i know what you mean
#451 [09:40] <ThomQ> Cool, thanks man!
#452 [09:40] <Zyriel> the thing is - there is no such thing as right or wrong - just pick the stuff you like to have fun with
#453 [09:40] <Zyriel> just my taste would be lots of challenge and lots of building fun
#454 [09:40] <ThomQ> I did some modding for Skyrim, and am currently designing a game for iOS / android.. I think i'll be getting into minecraft modding pretty soon as well
#455 [09:40] <Zyriel> neat
#456 [09:41] <ThomQ> maybe create some custom mobs, and maybe that full frontal attack, wich would be neat
#457 [09:41] <ThomQ> i'd love to see a mob who can burn stuff (in the normal world)
#458 [09:42] <Zyriel> ThomQ dont wanna spam with too many links but if you are really into modding of MC then for beginning this thing should make your life alot easier http://www.minecraftmine.org/layman-mod-maker/
#459 [09:42] <Necrodoom> ThomQ: spawn blazes in the over world?
#460 [09:42] <Zyriel> most awesome beginner-modder tool i have yet seen
#461 [09:43] <Zyriel> play with layman for a while and youll get the hang od the texturing and entities thing with ease
#462 [09:43] <ThomQ> necro: I thought id begin with skeletons with flaming arrows :)
#463 [09:43] <Zyriel> back in a while i saw mod named NaturalGiants
#464 [09:43] <ThomQ> zyriel: thanks, indeed looks like a cool beginner tool
#465 [09:44] <Zyriel> would love someone willing to re-create or port it over to 1.3.2
#466 [09:44] <Zyriel> ThomQ make me new naturalgiants mods :D
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#468 [09:45] <ThomQ> I wish someone would make this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWBOCFWqiHE :P
#469 [09:45] <Zyriel> idea was > about couple of% of mobs will spawn with alot increased size and have 200Hp and deal AOE 10+ damage and have nice loot
#470 [09:45] <Zyriel> endercolossus loks über-neat
#471 [09:46] <ThomQ> :D
#472 [09:46] <ThomQ> I have to get back to work guys.. Thanks for the info and inspiration
#473 [09:47] <Zyriel> np , take care and have fun
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#475 [09:49] <Zyriel> im off too
#476 [09:49] <Zyriel> c ya all
#477 [09:49] <Zyriel> c ya all
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#494 [10:27] <Zyriel> quick question about installing forge to 1.3.2 server
#495 [10:27] <Zyriel> i cant find any .jar files where to drop the forge into
#496 [10:27] <Zyriel> any tips?
#497 [10:27] <Zyriel> im trying to set up vanilla server
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#499 [10:37] <Lutzee> Zyriel: the server jar is available on minecraft.net/downloads if that is what you want
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#501 [10:38] <Dream_Rider> Hey Lutzee, hopefully this thursday will have everything for the computer and hopefully all working and should have it running by night and finally able to play minecraft lol
#502 [10:38] <Lutzee> Dream_Rider: Nice :)
#503 [10:39] <Dream_Rider> Get the OS in today, HD tomorrow then PSU/CPU Thursday, figures the 2 things I need to do a test comes last >.>
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#505 [10:40] <Dream_Rider> well time to go to fun work >.<
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#508 [10:42] <Zyriel> Lutzee i downloaded server exe and created server - and in server folder i wa shoping it exptracts server jar somewhere too
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#510 [10:42] <Zyriel> so i have to download the jar separately?
#511 [10:42] <Lutzee> Zyriel: no the exe isn't what you want
#512 [10:42] <Zyriel> ok will give another go
#513 [10:42] <Lutzee> the exe is a server jar wrapped in an exe program wrapper
#514 [10:43] <Zyriel> i see :d
#515 [10:43] <Zyriel> thanks for the tip
#516 [10:43] <Lutzee> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar
#517 [10:43] <Lutzee> theres the jar version
#518 [10:43] <Zyriel> i thought the jar on official page was for other than windows server installation only
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#520 [10:47] <Zyriel> worked
#521 [10:47] <Zyriel> thanks
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#523 [10:47] <Zyriel> tiny additional question about my bat file that tells java to use the server jar
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#525 [10:47] <Zyriel> the nogui = > the white console will be disabled but the black cmd console will work fine?
#526 [10:47] <Calinou> running a windows server? *applauses*
#527 [10:48] <Zyriel> lmao
#528 [10:48] <Calinou> nogui parameter means it won't create any GUI = graphical user interface
#529 [10:48] <Calinou> yes, it will only create the command line, it is more advisable
#530 [10:48] <Zyriel> thats the white server window right?
#531 [10:48] <Calinou> the GUI is almost useless
#532 [10:48] <Zyriel> yeah cool
#533 [10:48] <Calinou> GUI = "white" server window, yes
#534 [10:49] <Zyriel> i know the normal server is not that good but i cant wait for MCPC to update to 1.3.2
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#536 [10:49] * Zyriel has been running MCPC bukkit server for a year now
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#537 [10:50] <Zyriel> just wanted to try the 1.3.2 and normal bukkit 1.3.1 should run with 1.3.2 clients but i need forge mods and.... erm hope this make sense :)
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#539 [10:50] <Zyriel> any tips what i could improve my server?
#540 [10:50] <Calinou> elaborate please?
#541 [10:51] <Calinou> if you're talking about performance, you can't really do anything, other than limiting world size by using a plugin
#542 [10:51] <Zyriel> the idea is to use BC and IC mods and those have no bukkit port for 1.3.2 yet
#543 [10:51] <Calinou> try not to run anticheat/logging plugins too
#544 [10:51] <Calinou> you can't
#545 [10:51] <Zyriel> well its tiny community i wont need anch cheat nor worldguard against griefing
#546 [10:52] <Zyriel> world size=?
#547 [10:52] <Zyriel> i thought plugins were for bukkit only :D
#548 [10:53] <Zyriel> i confed the server properties view distance from 10 to 7 (3-15 range,default 10 )
#549 [10:53] <Zyriel> should diminish lags
#550 [10:54] <Zyriel> baah they joined world/nether/end directories into one dat file?
#551 [10:55] <Zyriel> was hoping i could reset the END world without touching overworld and nether
#552 [10:56] <Zyriel> anyways thanks - i got it mostly covered now , take care and have fun everyone
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#554 [10:59] * Calinou slaps Zyriel_Away for using an away nick. please don't
#554 [10:59] <Calinou> use /away <reason> instead (/away again to set as "back")
#555 [11:00] <Zyriel_Away> oops
#556 [11:00] <Calinou> away nicks/messages are bad practice
#557 [11:00] <Calinou> ;)
#558 [11:00] * Zyriel_Away is now known as Zyriel
#559 [11:00] <Zyriel> anyways to help others who are starting on same path - wanted to tell about one noob mistake i made (and fixed right after)
#560 [11:01] <Zyriel> one should NOT delete META-INF folder from server jar :D
#561 [11:01] <Zyriel> forces of habit from adding mods to client side :)
#562 [11:01] <Zyriel> installed latest forge successfully now
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#580 [12:00] <infernalis> hi please can anyone help - my minecraft just freezes. I have tried to deleting it and re installing but it freezes at the end of the download
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#582 [12:00] <lerkinlunitic> how to fix my mouse from finding my couser and opening up the menu when i try and chop
#583 [12:02] <lerkinlunitic> HELP????
#584 [12:03] <osuka_> lerkinlunitic: explain your problem better
#585 [12:03] <Calinou> infernalis: are you using AVG?
#586 [12:03] <Calinou> if so, disable the "link scanner" module
#587 [12:04] <lerkinlunitic> like okay when im chopping my mouse is finding the cross in the middle of the screen and opening up the menu screen when my friend plays his mouse doesnt even show up hoe do i take my mouse off of there
#588 [12:04] <Calinou> lerkinlunitic: what operating system do you use?
#589 [12:04] <lerkinlunitic> i dont know
#590 [12:05] <Necrodoom> lerkinlunitic: you know what is windows?
#591 [12:05] <osuka_> Necrodoom: lol I think so
#592 [12:06] <lerkinlunitic> yeah
#593 [12:06] <Necrodoom> lerkinlunitic: windows is a type of an opreating system
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#595 [12:06] <osuka_> so is is windows 7, vista...?
#596 [12:06] <Necrodoom> lerkinlunitic: others are linux, and mac
#597 [12:06] <osuka_> Necrodoom: not just them
#598 [12:06] <lerkinlunitic> oh got windows 7
#599 [12:06] <Necrodoom> osuka_: for an example
#600 [12:06] <osuka_> BSD
#601 [12:07] <kami> damn i always though windows are the things you got in your wall to let the daylight in
#602 [12:07] <osuka_> .w bsd
#603 [12:07] <osuka_> doesn't work here, so sad
#604 [12:08] * Calinou laughs
#604 [12:08] <Calinou> I don't even think MC can run on bsd :p
#605 [12:08] <FLHerne> osuka_: Also Haiku, BeOS, AmigaOS, KolibriOS, HURD, Morphos and UNIX :P
#606 [12:08] <lerkinlunitic> whats bsd
#607 [12:08] <Calinou> lerkinlunitic: if you press "alt", mouse capture will be released. this is intended
#608 [12:08] <FLHerne> lerkinlunitic: Never mind, we're just wandering off topic here ;-)
#609 [12:08] <Selbram> Calinou: java works on bsd... so minecraft can totally work
#610 [12:08] <Calinou> fullscreen mode can save trouble, press F1 to enable it
#611 [12:08] <osuka_> FLHerne: UNIX is a kind of a base...
#612 [12:09] <osuka_> Linux is UNIX-based, so is Macintosh...
#613 [12:09] <Calinou> osuka_: unix != unix-like
#614 [12:09] <Calinou> I STARTED A WAR
#615 [12:09] <FLHerne> osuka_: So, still exists :P
#616 [12:09] <osuka_> lol
#617 [12:09] <lerkinlunitic> thankyou ill try it
#618 [12:09] <osuka_> FLHerne: UNIX is to linux what the DOS was to windows
#619 [12:09] <osuka_> since vista it's entirely diferent
#620 [12:09] <osuka_> different*
#621 [12:09] <osuka_> lol AmigaOS isn't that the OS with the guru meditation thing?
#622 [12:10] <Calinou> no
#623 [12:10] <Calinou> GNU is not an os
#624 [12:10] <FLHerne> osuka_: Not really. Win95 was actually based directly on DOS. Linux is written from scratch to behave similarly to UNIX ;-)
#625 [12:10] <osuka_> FLHerne: seriously? didn't know that
#626 [12:10] <osuka_> I think XP was dos-based as well
#627 [12:10] <Selbram> xp was a rewrite
#628 [12:10] <kami> no, xp is NT-based
#629 [12:10] <osuka_> yea?
#630 [12:11] <piyo> oh yeah
#631 [12:11] <osuka_> lol aren't we here to help them?
#632 [12:11] <Selbram> command line is dos-like
#633 [12:11] <FLHerne> osuka_: NT, 2K and later are NT-based
#634 [12:11] <osuka_> look at the talk
#635 [12:11] <osuka_> FLHerne: Vista isn't NT-based anymore I think
#636 [12:11] <osuka_> not sure though
#637 [12:11] <kami> only 95, 98, me and revisions are dos-based
#638 [12:11] <FLHerne> Everything before ME is DOS-based
#639 [12:11] <FLHerne> kami: And 3.1 and blay :P
#640 [12:11] <osuka_> and me isn't? sucks for a reason then
#641 [12:11] <kami> not true
#642 [12:12] <kami> anything below 3,1 is just a graphics wrapper to dos
#643 [12:12] <Boreeas> I though Vista and 7 where still DOS based?
#644 [12:12] <FLHerne> osuka_: No, Vista/7 are still NT. Rather different from the old ones though :P
#645 [12:12] <osuka_> lol no
#646 [12:12] <Boreeas> And Win 8 is the first of the "new" generation
#647 [12:12] <osuka_> lol windows 8 will suck
#648 [12:12] <osuka_> A LOT
#649 [12:12] <FLHerne> kami: True. Forgot that temporarily :P
#650 [12:12] <osuka_> I don't want these touchscreen thingies
#651 [12:12] <osuka_> I like keyboards. And mouses.
#652 [12:13] <osuka_> How am I supposed to play anything on a touch screen?
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#654 [12:13] <Boreeas> osuka_: Win 8 still supports conventional input methods
#655 [12:13] <FLHerne> Boreeas: Win8 is much closer to 7 than Vista was to XP. Nothing's been DOS-based since WinME :P
#656 [12:14] <Boreeas> Err, NT, not DOS, sorry
#657 [12:14] <osuka_> Boreeas: I know, but it'll suck anyways. I hope Metro burns in hell
#658 [12:14] <kami> well i should add that windows had a non-dos-based os branch at the same time win95 was introduced
#659 [12:14] <FLHerne> Boreeas: Indeed. Win8 is still NT-based, AFAIK
#660 [12:15] <FLHerne> kami: NT? :-)
#661 [12:15] <kami> yep
#662 [12:15] <FLHerne> 2K is actually older than ME, right?
#663 [12:15] <osuka_> again, I hope windows 8 fails so miserably they give up on that
#664 [12:15] <kami> 2k/xp is a direct successor of nt
#665 [12:15] <FLHerne> osuka_: Why do you care? Linux :-)
#666 [12:15] <kami> vista is a successor of xp codebase with a lot of code rewrites
#667 [12:15] <FLHerne> kami: I said that a few minutes ago :P
#668 [12:16] <kami> though technically still nt core
#669 [12:16] <osuka_> FLHerne: well, gaming. Linux < windows for gaming, unfortunately. Pretty much the only reason I use windows.
#670 [12:16] <kami> 7/8 are just upgrades to vista
#671 [12:16] <FLHerne> osuka_: What kinds of game are you gaming with? :P
#672 [12:16] <kami> FLHerne and yes, 2k is older than me
#673 [12:16] <Boreeas> Oh, yeah, apparently 8 does use NT. I thought they developed a new kernel for mobile support
#674 [12:16] <osuka_> FLHerne: MOBA, FPS, MMORPG...
#675 [12:16] <kami> but not by a lot
#676 [12:17] <osuka_> FLHerne: Guess what? All for windows.
#677 [12:17] <Boreeas> There is... Sauerbraten for Linux!
#678 [12:17] <Calinou> osuka_: not if you are a "free gamer"
#679 [12:17] <Calinou> of course Boreeas
#680 [12:17] * Calinou facepalm
#680 [12:17] <Boreeas> :P
#681 [12:17] <Calinou> and many many other games, mostly FPSes
#682 [12:17] <Calinou> if you like FPS, you can play games on linux
#683 [12:17] <FLHerne> osuka_: Depends. A lot of FPS and MMORPG will run in WINE, actually :P
#684 [12:17] <Calinou> sauer, red eclipse, assaultcube, xonotic, warsow, openarena, urbanterror, and some games on wine
#685 [12:18] <FLHerne> And there's always CUBE derivatives if you want to play natively :P
#686 [12:18] <Calinou> and quake
#687 [12:18] <Boreeas> FLHerne: Yeah, but half of them don't :P
#688 [12:18] <Calinou> even the original (paid) ones
#689 [12:18] <osuka_> FLHerne: yea, but lower FPS, (mostly) sloppy drivers, glitchy sometimes...
#690 [12:18] <Boreeas> And I have yet to fix sounds in wine
#691 [12:18] * FLHerne wonders what proportion of FOSS FPS games are based on CUBE :P
#691 [12:18] <osuka_> FLHerne: If I really need to, I can actually figure it out. But as long as I can, I'll fight against windows 8
#692 [12:19] <Boreeas> Unnecessary
#693 [12:19] <kami> i, actually, use both windows and linux
#694 [12:19] <osuka_> anyways...
#695 [12:19] <Boreeas> So do I
#696 [12:19] <osuka_> I hope they give up on that. Windows 9 should be different
#697 [12:20] <Boreeas> It will be. Most of the versions differed from each other
#698 [12:20] <kami> windows 7 to 8 will be what xp was to vista
#699 [12:20] * FLHerne used to use both, then stopped bothering with Windows :P
#699 [12:20] <osuka_> kami: do you think so?
#700 [12:21] <kami> pretty sure about that
#701 [12:21] <kami> you're not alone who hates 8
#702 [12:21] <osuka_> kami: I hope windows 9 "comes back" in time, back to 7
#703 [12:21] <osuka_> in fact, I like 7
#704 [12:21] <kami> hope too
#705 [12:21] <osuka_> well, someone that's used to Vista HAS to like 7
#706 [12:21] <kami> win7 is the best windows ever
#707 [12:22] <osuka_> but anyways, thank God pretty much everyone who actually used older windowses will hate windows 8 to the bottom of their soul
#708 [12:22] <osuka_> I hope something goes really wrong and it breaks horrendously to the point of being useless
#709 [12:22] <osuka_> Pretty unlikely though
#710 [12:23] <kami> well, generally, if not for sloppy decision to use one os for all devices, win8 would be a good upgrade to win7
#711 [12:23] <kami> *cough* metro
#712 [12:23] <osuka_> ^ this
#713 [12:23] <osuka_> WHY METRO
#714 [12:23] <osuka_> WHO HAD THAT IDEA
#715 [12:23] <osuka_> FEEL FREE TO DIE
#716 [12:23] <FLHerne> osuka_: The same people who invented GNOME 3 :P
#717 [12:23] <osuka_> or to stop having ideas. your pick
#718 [12:23] <kami> metro ui is fine for touchscreen devices
#719 [12:24] <osuka_> for touchscreen devices
#720 [12:24] <kami> but that's where the fineness ends :D
#721 [12:24] <osuka_> FLHerne: lol I know but I mean, they did something good, don't screw it up.
#722 [12:24] <osuka_> kami The problem is I want AN ACTUAL COMPUTER NOT A TOUCHSCREEN
#723 [12:24] <osuka_> If you want one, go buy a tablet
#724 [12:24] <osuka_> iPad, samsung galaxy 9001
#725 [12:24] <osuka_> doesn't matter
#726 [12:24] <kami> it's hard to operate an ui that's developed for mouse and keyboard input by a touchscreen, and vice-versa
#727 [12:24] <Boreeas> FLHerne: No hating gnome 3
#728 [12:25] <FLHerne> Boreeas: Why not? It's awful! :P
#729 [12:25] <kami> osuka_ why are you tellin' me this? :D we're in the same boat
#730 [12:25] <osuka_> kami Just sharing my hatred. helps me calm down =/
#731 [12:25] <kami> haha
#732 [12:25] <osuka_> happy to know I;m not the only one though lol
#733 [12:25] <osuka_> I'm*
#734 [12:25] <osuka_> ugh, brb, let me get some stuff to clean my screen
#735 [12:25] <kami> oh, there's a lot like us
#736 [12:26] <osuka_> I hope so.
#737 [12:26] <Boreeas> FLHerne: Pfft, you just don't know a good window manager when you see one
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#741 [12:26] <osuka_> kami: Also I don't know why I remembered that but ugh
#742 [12:27] <osuka_> I THINK OF STUFF NOBODY ELSE DOES
#743 [12:27] <osuka_> OK, I don't know why this talk reminded me of this file
#744 [12:27] <FLHerne> Boreeas: KWin is better :P
#745 [12:27] <osuka_> I downloaded a file a while ago but I can't do *anything* with it
#746 [12:27] <osuka_> I don't even think i can look at it, but I do because I be a boss
#747 [12:28] <lerkinlunitic> how do i make the match fire looking things
#748 [12:28] <lerkinlunitic> the torch
#749 [12:28] <osuka_> put a stick and coal on a slot abone
#750 [12:28] <FLHerne> lerkinlunitic: Coal on a stick ;-)
#751 [12:28] <osuka_> avobe
#752 [12:28] <osuka_> ABOVE
#753 [12:29] <lerkinlunitic> thankyou
#754 [12:29] <osuka_> you're welcome
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#763 [12:55] <plzhelpme> I can't download the game, I click download it opens the launcher to start downloading, but when I click run nothing happens.
#764 [12:55] <osuka_> plzhelpme: what version did you download?
#765 [12:56] <plzhelpme> the latest one and i havent been able to download yet
#766 [12:56] <osuka_> what launcher?
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#768 [12:57] <plzhelpme> Minecraft for Windows Download Minecraft.exe (270 KB)
#769 [12:59] <lerkinlunitic> i pressed alt its im having that problem again
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#771 [12:59] <plzhelpme> 6+
#772 [12:59] <plzhelpme> 6+
#773 [13:00] <plzhelpme> .
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#777 [13:10] <plzhelpme> I can't download the game, I click download it opens the launcher to start downloading, but when I click run nothing happens. [09:55] <osuka_> plzhelpme: what version did you download?
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#779 [13:11] <osuka_> version of the launcher
#780 [13:11] <osuka_> .exe, .app, etc.
#781 [13:12] <FLHerne> osuka_: He's gone :P
#782 [13:12] <osuka_> there's one for windows, one for mac and one for the rest
#783 [13:12] <osuka_> oh lol FLHerne
#784 [13:12] <FLHerne> He did say, though :P
#785 [13:12] <FLHerne> .exe ;-)
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#787 [13:17] <Build> i cant login to my account please help
#788 [13:18] <Lutzee> Build: what error are you getting?
#789 [13:19] <Build> when i go to play minecraft everytime i login it says "login failed"
#790 [13:19] <osuka_> Check your firewalls
#791 [13:19] <Lutzee> Your username/password is incorrect
#792 [13:20] <Build> nope its correct
#793 [13:21] <osuka_> Firewalls...
#794 [13:21] <Lutzee> You only get login failed when you have incorrect user/password, try logging into the site
#795 [13:21] <Build> ok
#796 [13:21] <Lutzee> osuka_: he'd get a can't connect message if that was the case
#797 [13:21] <osuka_> Lutzee: can't recall it, but if you say so...
#798 [13:23] <Build> i caant login to website either
#799 [13:23] <Selbram> Did you convert your account to a mojang account
#800 [13:23] <Build> no
#801 [13:24] <Selbram> try logging in with your email address instead of your user name
#802 [13:24] <Build> i actually used the account from friend
#803 [13:24] <Selbram> then your friend changed the password
#804 [13:25] <Build> oh ok ty
#805 [13:25] <Build> oh ok ty
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#807 [13:25] <FLHerne> Er... :o
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#809 [13:26] <Selbram> easiest answer
#810 [13:26] <Selbram> don't share accounts gah
#811 [13:27] <redd02> hey guys ive got a problem with purchasing minecraft ... i didn't get a verification e-mail with the link in it... ive waitet 4 days until now
#812 [13:27] <Selbram> did your credit card get charged?
#813 [13:27] <Lutzee> redd02: contact your bank, they might have blocked the payment to protect you from fraud
#814 [13:28] <Selbram> ^
#815 [13:28] <theunpaidBill> You are far more patient than me
#816 [13:28] <theunpaidBill> I would have been on the horn with someone after about 40 minutes
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#830 [13:59] <Calinou> FLHerne: btw, cube is not an acronym
#831 [14:00] <Calinou> FLHerne: also, gnome 3 is indeed awful 8) lxde FTW
#832 [14:00] <Calinou> btw: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1210beta_desktops&num=1
#833 [14:00] <Calinou> you'll be convinced you'll never use any heavy DE if you read this ^
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#836 [14:02] <FLHerne> Calinou: I do see it capitalised a lot, though (eg AssaultCube frontpage). Must be some reason for it :P
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#849 [14:29] <kuba3210123> Hi, I bought Premium account via Skrill on Sunday. I cannot migrate my account to Mojang and I cannot login in in Minecraft Launcher....
#850 [14:29] <kuba3210123> How to solve this problem, thx.
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#853 [14:34] <lnknprkfn> soo.. what can i do about minecraft.net(being the website itself) blocking my ip just because i have teamviewer installed on my pc?
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#856 [14:36] <Calinou> ??> kuba3210123 scam
#857 [14:36] <VoxelHead> kuba3210123: (scam) If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#858 [14:36] <VoxelHead> kuba3210123: (scam) DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
#859 [14:36] * Calinou facepalms, still.
#859 [14:36] <Calinou> lnknprkfn: it cannot
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#861 [14:37] <lnknprkfn> strange because i always get the "webpage can not be displayed, troubleshoot connection problems" when trying to go on minecraft.net my only option i have left is to use a proxy..
#862 [14:38] <lnknprkfn> because it used to say it wouldnt connect because im running teamviewer
#863 [14:38] <Calinou> nope.
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#865 [14:38] <Calinou> use a real browser :P
#866 [14:39] <lnknprkfn> i have used a real one.. ive used IE9, Chrome and Chrome Canary all with the same results
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#868 [14:39] <kuba3210123> when I go to STORE section on page minecraft.net there is info that I have already bought Premium account...
#869 [14:40] <FLHerne> kuba3210123: What's your accountname?
#870 [14:40] <kuba3210123> the same as here :)
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#873 [14:42] <skyboy> !paid kuba3210123
#874 [14:43] <kuba3210123> i understand it is OK, so where is problem, could you help, please?
#875 [14:43] <skyboy> kuba3210123: try resetting your mojang account password, then logging into minecraft with that password
#876 [14:44] <skyboy> https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
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#892 [15:04] <kuba3210123> It seems that it works, thx.
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#897 [15:14] <Cheshire_Bandit> Hello.
#898 [15:15] <Cheshire_Bandit> I was on here a few nights ago for an hour or more, and nobody could help me with my problem, even though they really tried their hardest.
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#900 [15:16] <Cheshire_Bandit> I have a little bit more information now, and can give you a couple links to maybe give you a better and much quicker view of what my problem is.
#901 [15:18] <Cheshire_Bandit> Can anyone please assist?
#902 [15:19] <FLHerne> Cheshire_Bandit: Perhaps
#903 [15:19] <FLHerne> Depends what the problem is :P
#904 [15:19] <Cheshire_Bandit> Aaaah, dang it
#905 [15:19] <Cheshire_Bandit> I have to brb.
#906 [15:19] * FLHerne doesn't have a remote toast-unburning device yet ;-)
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#909 [15:31] <Cheshire_Bandit> Here's a link to the forums where I describe my problem
#910 [15:31] <Cheshire_Bandit> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1484785-multiplayer-lagging/
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#916 [15:36] <FLHerne> Cheshire_Bandit: Interesting
#917 [15:36] <Cheshire_Bandit> Very...
#918 [15:37] <Cheshire_Bandit> Now here's a link to the only instance I've found of ANYONE else having this same problem.
#919 [15:37] <Cheshire_Bandit> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110916155550AATia1v&fb_source=message
#920 [15:37] <FLHerne> Possibly your IRC lowers the priority on non-webpage traffic (much of which tends to be filesharing and such) and accidentally ruins your latency for Minecraft at the same time?
#921 [15:38] <Cheshire_Bandit> Well, if my latency was ruined, would it show that I have less bars on the server?
#922 [15:38] <Cheshire_Bandit> Because I always have a full 5 bars.
#923 [15:38] <FLHerne> Cheshire_Bandit: Not sure.
#924 [15:38] * FLHerne looks up how those bars are calculated :P
#924 [15:39] <Cheshire_Bandit> Well, how would I go about upping minecraft's priority with my IRC? Also, what's an IRC? :(
#925 [15:39] <osuka_> whoa
#926 [15:39] <osuka_> something on your problem mate
#927 [15:39] <osuka_> I used to host a server for me and some friends
#928 [15:39] <osuka_> and guess who had lag
#929 [15:39] <osuka_> me
#930 [15:39] <osuka_> firewall
#931 [15:39] <osuka_> check your firewalls.
#932 [15:39] <Cheshire_Bandit> I might be well-spoken, but don't let that fool you; I'm pretty illiterate when it comes to computers.
#933 [15:39] <osuka_> try turning them off
#934 [15:40] <FLHerne> Hmm. Bars _do_ supposedly indicate latency, so that's one theory gone :P
#935 [15:40] <Cheshire_Bandit> Well I've turned off my firewall AND my anti-virus
#936 [15:40] <osuka_> Cheshire_Bandit: lol it seemes you actually knew a low
#937 [15:40] <osuka_> lot*
#938 [15:40] <osuka_> Cheshire_Bandit: let's make sure it's not the firewall. let me get something for you
#939 [15:40] <FLHerne> Cheshire_Bandit: Compared to many of the people who turn up here, you're a genius :P
#940 [15:40] <osuka_> FLHerne: oh, he is
#941 [15:40] <Cheshire_Bandit> Lol!!! Well, thank you both.
#942 [15:40] <osuka_> One guy was here to report a bug
#943 [15:41] <osuka_> S made him walk backwards
#944 [15:41] <FLHerne> Only acronym I know for IRC is Internet Relay Chat, which you're using :P
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#946 [15:41] <osuka_> ^ this
#947 [15:41] <osuka_> also FLHerne what's his OS?
#948 [15:41] <Cheshire_Bandit> Oh....Well, I didn't know my computer had some sort of IRC running.
#949 [15:41] <Cheshire_Bandit> Windows 7, 64-bit.
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#951 [15:42] <osuka_> nvm checked it on topic
#952 [15:42] <osuka_> thanks anyway
#953 [15:42] <Cheshire_Bandit> Oh, TY.
#954 [15:42] <FLHerne> There might be something else that IRC means, but this is IRC :P
#955 [15:42] <osuka_> for me IRC's always been internet relay chat
#956 [15:42] <osuka_> just that
#957 [15:42] <osuka_> or...
#958 [15:43] <osuka_> also Cheshire_Bandit take a look at this
#959 [15:43] <osuka_> you're looking for Safe boot
#960 [15:43] <osuka_> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Advanced-startup-options-including-safe-mode
#961 [15:43] <FLHerne> Wikipedia doesn't turn up anything relevant :P
#962 [15:44] <FLHerne> osuka_: How's that relevant?
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#964 [15:44] <osuka_> FLHerne: Some firewalls don't actually deactivate
#965 [15:44] <osuka_> they're still there, running partially
#966 [15:44] <Cheshire_Bandit> MINE DOES THAT!
#967 [15:44] <osuka_> most of them do
#968 [15:44] <Cheshire_Bandit> But I only have Windows firewall.
#969 [15:44] <osuka_> so I'm asking you to enter safeboot to check if that's it
#970 [15:45] * FLHerne prefers Linux, it's simpler to test stuff :P
#970 [15:45] <osuka_> on safeboot that's windows and JUST windows
#971 [15:45] <osuka_> try it out
#972 [15:45] <osuka_> let's see
#973 [15:45] <osuka_> then you can open stuff normally
#974 [15:45] <Cheshire_Bandit> I hunted and dug around in that mother****** for an hour the other night, but could not figure out how to FULLY deactivate it.
#975 [15:45] <Cheshire_Bandit> Actually I'm not on my home computer.
#976 [15:45] <osuka_> also choose it with networking so you get to try logging in on a server and here
#977 [15:45] <osuka_> Cheshire_Bandit: oh no?
#978 [15:46] <osuka_> Alright so when are you going?
#979 [15:46] <Cheshire_Bandit> In about 4 hours, lol. Do you know of a way to 100% deactivate Windows Firewall?
#980 [15:47] <osuka_> nope
#981 [15:47] <osuka_> never used it and don't want to
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#983 [15:47] <osuka_> mostly, there isn't a way
#984 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Er, what?
#985 [15:47] <osuka_> you kill their process or stop their service
#986 [15:47] <osuka_> the other ones start it again
#987 [15:47] <osuka_> you'll need special software for that
#988 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> No, you don't.
#989 [15:48] <osuka_> lol
#990 [15:48] <osuka_> to fully deactivate a firewall?
#991 [15:48] <osuka_> also if it even works
#992 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Windows firewall?
#993 [15:48] <osuka_> never used that
#994 [15:48] <Cheshire_Bandit> Yes.
#995 [15:48] <osuka_> I'm guessing it's the same as others
#996 [15:48] <osuka_> e.g. McAfee
#997 [15:48] * FLHerne *really* prefers Linux in these situations :-)
#997 [15:48] <osuka_> oh, mcafee
#998 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Run -> firewall.cpl -> turn off firewall. Run -> services.msc -> stop firewall, disable to have it never turn on again
#999 [15:48] <osuka_> GreyVulpine: does it need a reboot?
#1000 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> This will work for "windows firewall", don't know about mcafee
#1001 [15:49] <osuka_> it won't
#1002 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Don't see why it won't.
#1003 [15:49] <osuka_> I don't have specific info on windows firewall, that's why I asked him to boot in safemode
#1004 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> That'll do it too.
#1005 [15:49] <osuka_> only way I could deactivate mcafee for real
#1006 [15:50] <Cheshire_Bandit> So, since I'm not sure how to really use a command prompt, if I open my firewall through "Run", what are the actual commands?
#1007 [15:50] <osuka_> cmd
#1008 [15:50] <osuka_> I mean
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#1010 [15:50] <osuka_> no
#1011 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Er, what?
#1012 [15:50] <osuka_> not cmd
#1013 [15:50] <osuka_> windows key + R
#1014 [15:50] <osuka_> press it
#1015 [15:50] <osuka_> a window'll pop up
#1016 [15:50] <osuka_> Type in "firewall.cpl"
#1017 [15:50] <DXHHH101> Whenever I try to place a block on certain spaces it itsnatly gets removed, anyone know why (SMP)
#1018 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> spawn protection
#1019 [15:51] <DXHHH101> im op
#1020 [15:51] <osuka_> uhh
#1021 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Then mod/plugin that does area protection
#1022 [15:51] <DXHHH101> and i can place BELOW it but only on certain blocks on a cerain block level
#1023 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Worldguard and such
#1024 [15:51] <DXHHH101> not using bukkit
#1025 [15:51] <osuka_> plugin spawn protection
#1026 [15:51] <osuka_> uhhh
#1027 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> If not that, then chunk error
#1028 [15:51] <DXHHH101> and i can place BELOW it but only on certain blocks on a cerain block level
#1029 [15:52] <DXHHH101> so not a chunk error
#1030 [15:52] <osuka_> either chunk error or spawn protection
#1031 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> op overrides spawn protection
#1032 [15:52] <DXHHH101> ya
#1033 [15:52] <osuka_> My guess is that it's spawn protection because it's on a 16x16x16 cube
#1034 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> I would then go for chunk error.
#1035 [15:52] <osuka_> e.g. it's tridimensional
#1036 [15:52] <DXHHH101> and I can place below it so it cant be either of those
#1037 [15:52] <osuka_> I know OP overrides spawn protection
#1038 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> chunk error can exhibit itself in strange ways
#1039 [15:53] <osuka_> well spawn protection, as I said, is counted on a x, y and z axis
#1040 [15:53] <osuka_> so could be
#1041 [15:53] <osuka_> but as long as your'
#1042 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> What block are you trying to place?
#1043 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Any?
#1044 [15:53] <osuka_> you're OP, we're looking for something else
#1045 [15:53] <DXHHH101> anything (torch cobble...)
#1046 [15:54] <osuka_> try deopping yourself
#1047 [15:54] <osuka_> and placing a block on where you can
#1048 [15:54] <DXHHH101> i just did
#1049 [15:54] <osuka_> well OP yourself again
#1050 [15:54] <DXHHH101> i did
#1051 [15:54] <DXHHH101> still cant
#1052 [15:54] <osuka_> restart server
#1053 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Instinct tells me chunk error.
#1054 [15:55] <DXHHH101> how do i fix it?
#1055 [15:55] <osuka_> GreyVulpine: But it's at least weird, don't you think?
#1056 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> I've seen all sorts of strange behavior with chunk errors.
#1057 [15:55] <osuka_> GreyVulpine: I mean, the entire chunk is f-ed up if there's a chunk error
#1058 [15:55] <osuka_> minecraft even crashes sometimes.
#1059 [15:56] <osuka_> doesn't sound like a chunk error to me.
#1060 [15:56] <osuka_> how much does this world weight?
#1061 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> weigh?
#1062 [15:56] <osuka_> yea, yea
#1063 [15:56] <osuka_> waigh
#1064 [15:56] <osuka_> eaigh
#1065 [15:56] <osuka_> WEIGH
#1066 [15:56] <osuka_> that's it
#1067 [15:56] <osuka_> lol
#1068 [15:56] <osuka_> thanks for the correction btw, I wasn't sure about the verb.
#1069 [15:57] <osuka_> not native :3
#1070 [15:57] <DXHHH101> that only ?
#1071 [15:57] <DXHHH101> i mean ?
#1072 [15:57] <Cheshire_Bandit> So if I fully deactivated my firewall, and it solved the problem, would there be a way to figure out how to set up my firewall so that it would no longer inhibit Minecraft?
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#1074 [15:58] <Cheshire_Bandit> Because I'd like to be able to still have an actual firewall.
#1075 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall.
#1076 [15:58] <osuka_> Cheshire_Bandit: I don't think so. Or maybe create an exception for minecraft, see if that works
#1077 [15:58] <osuka_> I doubt so, though
#1078 [15:58] <Cheshire_Bandit> Okay then.
#1079 [15:58] <osuka_> Can you believe that? ~5 secs lag on localhost
#1080 [15:58] <osuka_> because of a damn firewall.
#1081 [15:59] <osuka_> I mean, it's localhost ._.
#1082 [15:59] <FLHerne> osuka_: Why is your firewall firewalling localhost anyway? :o
#1083 [15:59] <osuka_> FLHerne: lol dunno it was on a mac
#1084 [15:59] <osuka_> macs are weird sometimes.
#1085 [16:00] <osuka_> take that apple fanatics
#1086 [16:00] <osuka_> lol
#1087 [16:00] <osuka_> FLHerne: I solved it on luck
#1088 [16:00] <Cheshire_Bandit> If none of that works, then...I'll be back lol. Would you have any suggestions past that?
#1089 [16:00] <Cheshire_Bandit> I mean what did you think about this link?
#1090 [16:00] <osuka_> FLHerne: I deactivated it for some reason and it worked
#1091 [16:00] <Cheshire_Bandit> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110916155550AATia1v&fb_source=message
#1092 [16:01] <FLHerne> osuka_: Run Linux instead :D
#1093 [16:01] <osuka_> Cheshire_Bandit: Not much mate. Try using safeboot with networking so you join the server. If it doesn't work then...
#1094 [16:01] <osuka_> Cheshire_Bandit: well then I don't know.
#1095 [16:01] <osuka_> Come back here, we'll try to help :3
#1096 [16:01] <osuka_> FLHerne: meh
#1097 [16:01] <osuka_> LINUX SUX
#1098 [16:01] <Cheshire_Bandit> Thank ya
#1099 [16:01] * osuka_ grabs popcorn
#1099 [16:01] <Cheshire_Bandit> bye
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#1102 [16:01] <osuka_> cya around mate
#1103 [16:02] <osuka_> lol no ragewars?
#1104 [16:02] <osuka_> hey people
#1105 [16:02] <osuka_> I said linux sucked. No haters?
#1106 [16:02] <osuka_> alright then =/
#1107 [16:02] <osuka_> unsuccessful troll is unsucessful
#1108 [16:02] <osuka_> successful*
#1109 [16:03] <FLHerne> osuka_: How so? :P
#1110 [16:03] <osuka_> FLHerne: lol I said
#1111 [16:03] <osuka_> LINUX SUX
#1112 [16:03] <osuka_> then I got my popcorn
#1113 [16:03] <osuka_> but no ragewars happened that day
#1114 [16:03] * FLHerne is a bit slow at spinning up the hate :P
#1114 [16:03] <osuka_> today, that is
#1115 [16:03] <Selbram> To tired to rage
#1116 [16:03] <osuka_> lol
#1117 [16:03] <osuka_> come on people, no rage?
#1118 [16:04] <Selbram> meh
#1119 [16:04] <FLHerne> osuka_: So what SUX about Linux?
#1120 [16:04] * GreyVulpine yawns
#1120 [16:04] <osuka_> FLHerne: everything. Just hate, please
#1121 [16:04] <osuka_> rage a little bit
#1122 [16:04] <osuka_> uhh
#1123 [16:04] <osuka_> alright
#1124 [16:04] <osuka_> I gtg
#1125 [16:04] <osuka_> see ya around people.
#1126 [16:05] <FLHerne> osuka_: Bye :-)
#1127 [16:05] <FLHerne> I'm not really a 'rage' person :P
#1128 [16:05] <osuka_> lol me neither but some stuff really gets to me
#1129 [16:05] <osuka_> e.g. irrationality
#1130 [16:05] <osuka_> is that how you say it
#1131 [16:05] <osuka_> irr...
#1132 [16:06] <osuka_> yes, that's it
#1133 [16:06] <FLHerne> I get occasionally annoyed when I spend ages helping people and they spontaneously ragequit :P
#1134 [16:07] <osuka_> lol
#1135 [16:07] <osuka_> I mean...
#1136 [16:07] <osuka_> ugh, this just pisses me off HARD
#1137 [16:07] <osuka_> for example
#1138 [16:07] <osuka_> we had something to do, and we had to schedule the dates
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#1140 [16:08] <osuka_> two people/day
#1141 [16:08] <osuka_> they wanted to go with their friends.
#1142 [16:08] <osuka_> the question is why
#1143 [16:08] <osuka_> the damn project is not in groups, WHY IN HELL DO YOU WANT TO PICK THAT
#1144 [16:08] <osuka_> makes me want to shoot them.
#1145 [16:08] <osuka_> BUT I don't have a gun, so...
#1146 [16:08] <osuka_> no shooting.
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#1149 [16:09] <FLHerne> osuka_: Since when do people have guns!?
#1150 [16:09] <osuka_> FLHerne: ever heard of usa? so.
#1151 [16:09] * FLHerne is glad osuka doesn't have a gun :P
#1151 [16:10] * osuka_ is not
#1151 [16:10] * FLHerne finds the USA completely baffling :o
#1151 [16:10] <osuka_> FLHerne: But I'm not in the USA, so...
#1152 [16:10] <osuka_> meh
#1153 [16:10] * osuka_ iz going to tah showerz den is gonna it.
#1153 [16:11] <osuka_> eat that is
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#1157 [16:16] <Cheshire_Bandit> Hey, I'm back!
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#1159 [16:17] <Cheshire_Bandit> Apparently this computer doesn't like to take screenshots, so can I ask you to post that line of commands to disable my firewall one more time GreyVulpine?
#1160 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Run -> firewall.cpl -> turn off firewall. Run -> services.msc -> stop firewall, disable to have it never turn on again
#1161 [16:18] <Cheshire_Bandit> Thank you so much.
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#1163 [16:19] <Cheshire_Bandit> Okay, I'm out again. Thanks a bunch Vulpy. Can I call you Vulpy? I'm gonna call you Vulpy
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#1165 [16:20] <ThomQ> Hi all
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#1167 [16:20] <ThomQ> Im a bit bored. Where can I find some good servers? :)
#1168 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#1169 [16:21] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1170 [16:21] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#1171 [16:22] <ThomQ> :D thanks grayvulpine
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#1173 [16:22] <ThomQ> ow, btw, what is Griefing? Keep seeing it everywhere, but have never heard of it
#1174 [16:23] <Selbram> It is when some annoying bastard comes onto your server and starts breaking everything, stealing your loot, and basically being a pain.
#1175 [16:23] <Selbram> Lead creepers into your house and set them off
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#1177 [16:23] <Selbram> there are just there to destroy
#1178 [16:24] <Selbram> and somehow *enjoy* it
#1179 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Destructive and counter-productive behavior in order to gain enjoyment out of other people's misery
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#1181 [16:24] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Greifing can be fun :D
#1182 [16:24] <ThomQ> hahah okok, yeah it had to be something like that ;)
#1183 [16:25] <ThomQ> the connection bars in the 1.3.2 client are broken, aren't they?
#1184 [16:25] <ThomQ> I always get 1 bar, even for my own server
#1185 [16:25] <FLHerne> [when perpetrated on people who you know in real life, and if you've made sure you can restore the world if they get *really* upset] :P
#1186 [16:25] <Selbram> Ha, I helped test one of the rollback plugins a while ago, which involed logging in and destroying everything in sight, then rollback, it is all preatty.
#1187 [16:25] <ThomQ> hehe yeah, im planning something special for my buddies ;)
#1188 [16:26] <Selbram> does it involve tnt and lava!!??
#1189 [16:26] <ThomQ> Yup! :P
#1190 [16:27] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Perfect :D
#1191 [16:27] <ThomQ> and removing the torches in our spider farm :P
#1192 [16:27] <FLHerne> Have a way to drop enraged creepers on them, too :P
#1193 [16:27] * FLHerne was locked in an enraged-creeper trap a few times :-(
#1193 [16:27] <ThomQ> haha, maybe I could do something with minecarts. Those already have creepers and other stuff in them ;)
#1194 [16:28] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Wait till they don't have a pick, then drop them down a very deep hole? :D
#1195 [16:29] <FLHerne> Oh, or any wood to make a pick with :P
#1196 [16:30] <ThomQ> hehehe.. You have a suspicious amount of ways to kill/annoy players... ;)
#1197 [16:30] <FLHerne> Then set it up so that when they _finally_ get back to the surface, a bunch of pistons retract and they fall back down :D
#1198 [16:30] <Selbram> lol
#1199 [16:30] <Selbram> some of us get creative
#1200 [16:31] <FLHerne> ThomQ: I used to have my small server, can't get banned on your own one :P
#1201 [16:32] <ThomQ> hahaha, thats just evil ;)
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#1203 [16:33] <FLHerne> Then when they've finally had enough, switch to creative and drop them out of the world :D
#1204 [16:34] <ThomQ> hahaha
#1205 [16:36] <ThomQ> wow, these server names..
#1206 [16:36] <ThomQ> "MC Prison - don't drop the soap"
#1207 [16:36] <Selbram> there are some plugins that let you do things like set people on fire or hit them with lightning, from far away
#1208 [16:36] <ThomQ> "WaffleMinecraft - every day I'm wafflin' " :P
#1209 [16:37] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Too many servers. The sane names ran out years ago :P
#1210 [16:38] <ThomQ> :P
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#1212 [16:39] <ThomQ> :P i like when you delete a server, the client reminds me how long forever is :P
#1213 [16:40] <FLHerne> ThomQ: It does that when deleting savegames, too :-)
#1214 [16:40] <ThomQ> I have never actually saved..
#1215 [16:40] <ThomQ> in singleplayer, I´d just quit
#1216 [16:42] * FLHerne loves the pointless yellow text on the menu, too :P
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#1217 [16:47] <ThomQ> Lol!
#1218 [16:47] <ThomQ> Well i played the hungergames
#1219 [16:47] <ThomQ> for about 20 seconds
#1220 [16:48] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Have you seen the number of webcomics, memes and other stuff referenced by those snippets of texxt? :o
#1221 [16:48] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Slaugjhtered hideously?
#1222 [16:48] <ThomQ> Nope :P
#1223 [16:49] <ThomQ> I did like it though, getting as much wood as possible within a minute
#1224 [16:50] <ThomQ> but yeah, got team killed by 4 guys
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#1227 [16:55] <dinoheadjake21> helo?
#1228 [16:56] <dinoheadjake21> hello
#1229 [16:56] <Selbram> hello
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#1231 [16:56] <Selbram> nice
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#1233 [16:57] <DiskDaemon> That's how some people behave around here - frustrating doesn't come close to defining it
#1234 [16:57] <Selbram> :)
#1235 [16:59] * Grim_Reaper pets DiskDaemon
#1235 [16:59] <Grim_Reaper> There there
#1236 [17:01] <ThomQ> lol i dug a hole
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#1240 [17:06] <ThomQ> is there something usefull I can make with clay?
#1241 [17:07] <DiskDaemon> Yes, bricks
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#1245 [17:10] <Howie> A while ago i was playing on a server i had hosted, and then it went down and we stopped playing. I want to continue using that map, but whenever i put it into my saves of my Minecraft file it wont appear
#1246 [17:10] <Howie> Its clearly out of date, but it wont let me convert it ,any ideas?
#1247 [17:10] <Grim_Reaper> I threw said brick gently >.>
#1248 [17:10] * DiskDaemon watchs bricks float gently to the ground
#1248 [17:11] <Grim_Reaper> Howie.
#1249 [17:11] <Howie> Yes?
#1250 [17:11] <Grim_Reaper> If you want to play your map
#1251 [17:11] <Grim_Reaper> It should appear if you place it in the saves o.o
#1252 [17:11] <Howie> it wont D:
#1253 [17:11] <Grim_Reaper> Make sure you copy the entire folder. Not just whats inside
#1254 [17:12] <DiskDaemon> Howie: Maps from before version 1 of Minecraft (beta and alpha, for example) aren't understood by recent versions of Minecraft. You can use Minecraft version 1.1 to convert older ones to what can be understood
#1255 [17:12] <Howie> It was in the beta
#1256 [17:12] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh that explains it
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#1258 [17:12] <Howie> So how do i convert it using version 1.1?
#1259 [17:13] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion
#1260 [17:13] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#1261 [17:14] <skyboy> actually, mojang hosts some old versions on their site
#1262 [17:14] <Howie> So i just downloaded that McNostalgia thing
#1263 [17:14] <Howie> i have the world file on my desktop along with that program
#1264 [17:15] <Howie> Do u happen to knw what to do
#1265 [17:15] <skyboy> 1.2+ and 1.8,1.9 pres
#1266 [17:15] <DiskDaemon> skyboy: Mojang do not publicly provide links to old versions though, so we respect thir right to leave them unlinked
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#1268 [17:19] <DiskDaemon> ??> Howie dont/pm
#1269 [17:19] <VoxelHead> Howie: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
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#1271 [17:20] <Howie> Well i dont want to spam the chat
#1272 [17:20] <Howie> But im confused as to how i can get this working
#1273 [17:20] <Howie> I was playing in beta, i have this map, im on a Mac, i want to play it
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#1275 [17:20] <DiskDaemon> Howie: Relevant information about your situation is not spamming :)
#1276 [17:20] <Howie> Okey :)
#1277 [17:21] <DiskDaemon> Howie: Download mcnostalgia, and run it. Their forum even has video instructions for the mac
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#1280 [17:33] <Howie> Aw it didnt work :(
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#1282 [17:36] <DiskDaemon> Howie: Can you please provide some details? "It didn't work" doesn't help us to help you very much at all
#1283 [17:37] <Howie> When i got to the last step, I tried opening mcnostalgialib.py with Python launcher
#1284 [17:37] <Howie> in the video the terminal popped up with all this stuff, that doesnt happen with me, Python preferences pop up and a terminal pops with with nothing in it
#1285 [17:38] <Howie> wait i think i got it
#1286 [17:39] <Howie> The possibile things to downgrade to are indev-2-23-10
#1287 [17:39] <Howie> infdev-6-18-10
#1288 [17:39] <Howie> and 1.0.4
#1289 [17:39] <Howie> then all the others
#1290 [17:39] <DiskDaemon> Howie: Please stop
#1291 [17:39] <DiskDaemon> Howie: Choose Minecraft version 1.1, which should be number 71 in the list
#1292 [17:39] <Howie> Sorry
#1293 [17:39] <Howie> ty
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#1297 [17:45] <Howie> thanks guys
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#1309 [18:18] <nsars> I've been trying to make my single player server into a multiplayer, but have no idea where the folder is that most ppl have labeled "server" can anyone help?
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#1311 [18:22] <Smanly> nsars: Are you trying to run a server using your single player map?
#1312 [18:22] <nsars> Yup!
#1313 [18:22] <Smanly> Ok, create a server then replace the server's map with yours.
#1314 [18:23] <masterterranova> i noticed that severall people are having the smae problem that i do, you cant get to the severs to login does anyone know thw fix for this
#1315 [18:23] <nsars> hmm, okay is there a good video you can link to figure out how to do that?
#1316 [18:23] <Smanly> masterterranova: What is the issue?
#1317 [18:24] <Smanly> nsars: I don't have one, no.
#1318 [18:25] <nsars> so make a multiplayer server, than how do I copy my single map?
#1319 [18:25] <Smanly> nsars: You can just follow the directions here: http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1320 [18:26] <nsars> sweet, thank you.
#1321 [18:26] <Smanly> nsars: Just replace the contents of the "world" folder with the contents of your map.
#1322 [18:26] <masterterranova> when i try to log on it wount, it works on the in browser
#1323 [18:26] <Smanly> nsars: or rename the world in the server.properties with the name of your world.
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#1325 [18:27] <Smanly> masterterranova: When you try to login using the minecraft.exe, it doesnt work?
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#1327 [18:27] <masterterranova> no but the browser works
#1328 [18:28] <Smanly> masterterranova: What happeneds when you try?
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#1330 [18:30] <masterterranova> it will say play ofline or try again like it is suppost to
#1331 [18:30] <Smanly> masterterranova: please tell me exactly what it says when you try.
#1332 [18:31] <masterterranova> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect</center></font></body></html>
#1333 [18:31] <DiskDaemon> masterterranova: Please see this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#1334 [18:31] <NinjaKirby> No Header, Styling defined in the Body, good god.
#1335 [18:32] <NinjaKirby> Problem identified ~_~
#1336 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> Yeah, that would be the fault of tumblr there
#1337 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#1338 [18:37] <NinjaKirby> Lawdie, wouldn't centralised CSS save on bandwidth for the scale it has to serve.
#1339 [18:37] <masterterranova> it says to put it in the taget feild i cant find it
#1340 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, or would it. No it wouldn't, because that html only appears when tumblr cannot be contacted. My apologies to Tumblr, they're not at fault at all
#1341 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> When you right-click on the shortcut and choose properties, there is always a target field.
#1342 [18:39] <masterterranova> same thing as target
#1343 [18:39] <NinjaKirby> Intredasting...
#1344 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> It is the field (a line where you enter information) that is titled with "Target"
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#1346 [18:41] <masterterranova> it says error unable to access -jarfile minecraft
#1347 [18:41] <DiskDaemon> "-jarfile" is not an appropriate option. "-jar" is though
#1348 [18:43] <DiskDaemon> Pardon, it's not finding the minecraft.exe file instead, which needs to be resolved.
#1349 [18:43] <DiskDaemon> So you have the file minecraft.exe there, or do you have it named something else?
#1350 [18:45] <DiskDaemon> masterterranova: Let me phrase this in a different way that may be understood. When you right-click on the minecraft.exe file (not the shortcut this time) and choose properties, what is the Description that it gives for that file?
#1351 [18:46] <masterterranova> Minecraft.exe
#1352 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> Okay, and in the shortcut, what is the full text of the Target field that you have there?
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#1354 [18:48] <masterterranova> C:\Windows\System32\java.exe -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe
#1355 [18:48] <DiskDaemon> That looks right. Are you sure that the shortcut in the same location as the minecraft.exe file?
#1356 [18:50] <masterterranova> in the short cut "C:\Users\Terra Nova\Desktop" in the exe C:\Users\Terra Nova\Desktop
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#1360 [18:52] <DiskDaemon> And yet java is telling you that it is incapable of finding the minecraft.exe file that you have listed in the shortcut
#1361 [18:52] <masterterranova> yes
#1362 [18:52] <nelson> yes
#1363 [18:53] <masterterranova> the error message pops up and goes away in 1 sec
#1364 [18:53] <nelson> When I play minecraft freezes EVERY TIME I PLAY
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#1366 [18:53] <DiskDaemon> Well that just doesn't make any sense. My ability to help with that issue is at an end
#1367 [18:53] <nelson> Who are you speaking with?
#1368 [18:53] <DiskDaemon> nelson: With masterterranova
#1369 [18:53] <ThomQ> masterterranova probably
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#1371 [18:54] <nelson> fuck you
#1372 [18:54] * AuBot kicked nelson from #minecrafthelp (Reason: elson :Please keep it civil.)
#1373 [18:54] <masterterranova> okay thank you im going to keep looking for a answer
#1374 [18:54] * DiskDaemon uses the delete key to remove what I was going to help nelson with
#1374 [18:55] <ThomQ> haha lol
#1375 [18:55] <ThomQ> why did he even get pissed?
#1376 [18:56] <ThomQ> some people... :P
#1377 [18:56] <DiskDaemon> masterterranova: Forum posts such as this are where such answers are found http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
#1378 [18:56] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Idiots do, sometimes :P
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#1380 [18:56] <ThomQ> plus little kids.. I always picture the more impatient ones here to be very young
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#1382 [18:57] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Seems plausible. My little brother plays Minecraft :P
#1383 [18:57] <FLHerne> Except he doesn't come on here, he just pesters me ;-)
#1384 [18:57] * DiskDaemon heads off for a while
#1384 [18:57] <singingjay> my minecraft wont connect to minecraft.net and when i try to play in-browser it wont work
#1385 [18:57] <ThomQ> :P so glad im a only child
#1386 [18:57] <ThomQ> go chill DiskD, you desere it ;)
#1387 [18:59] * FLHerne goes to bed :P
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#1388 [18:59] <ThomQ> l8ter FLHerne!
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#1390 [19:01] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Bye :-)
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#1393 [19:04] <ryan_> what do you do if it lags when you try to turn your character?
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#1396 [19:06] <Null_> you guys are crap at fixing this stuff you dont know anything about this game at all
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#1400 [19:08] <osuka_|AFK> I be back.
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#1406 [19:21] <masterterranova> hello im back i had a problem with loging on to minecraft
#1407 [19:22] <masterterranova> i looked on the wiki and noticed that all the help was for downgrading to ipv4
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#1409 [19:23] <masterterranova> i looked on my linksys and it didnt use ipv6
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#1411 [19:23] <masterterranova> i was wondering if there was a way to enable it
#1412 [19:23] <Guest81172> i bought minecraft on my android tablet (minecraft pocket edition v0.4.0 alpha)
#1413 [19:23] <Guest81172> i also baought some skins
#1414 [19:24] <Guest81172> when i try to apply my skins to my account
#1415 [19:24] <Guest81172> it says that i need to buy minecraft first
#1416 [19:24] <Guest81172> help please
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#1433 [19:28] <SoupDaJ> hi
#1434 [19:28] <SoupDaJ> command
#1435 [19:28] <SoupDaJ> help\
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#1437 [19:29] <SoupDaJ> hi
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#1440 [19:31] <SoupDaJ> are you to help me
#1441 [19:31] <koolkid808> hi, I'm having problems with my minecraft game. After i log in my screen turns black and nothing happens.
#1442 [19:31] <SoupDaJ> same here im not a client
#1443 [19:32] <koolkid808> oh so u can't help me
#1444 [19:32] <SoupDaJ> mine says im not a premium
#1445 [19:32] <SoupDaJ> nope i do not know were yu get help
#1446 [19:32] <koolkid808> ok then
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#1450 [19:33] <Smanly> SoupDaJ: You bought a minecraft account, yes?
#1451 [19:34] <SoupDaJ> yes
#1452 [19:34] <Smanly> When?
#1453 [19:34] <SoupDaJ> are you tech support
#1454 [19:34] <Smanly> Sure.
#1455 [19:34] <SoupDaJ> What?
#1456 [19:34] <Smanly> No one here works for Mojang
#1457 [19:35] <SoupDaJ> who are you then
#1458 [19:35] <Smanly> We are all volunteers
#1459 [19:35] <SoupDaJ> ok good
#1460 [19:35] <SoupDaJ> 2 days ago
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#1465 [19:35] <jnelmark> hey
#1466 [19:35] <Smanly> SoupDaJ: Can you log in on minecraft.net?
#1467 [19:35] <Smanly> ??>> jnelmark ask
#1468 [19:35] <jnelmark> what
#1469 [19:36] <Smanly> that
#1470 [19:36] <SoupDaJ> yes but when i go to play it says user not premuim
#1471 [19:36] <jnelmark> what servers does notch play on kw
#1472 [19:36] <Smanly> He doesnt
#1473 [19:36] <jnelmark> ahh
#1474 [19:37] <jnelmark> i can log in
#1475 [19:37] <Smanly> SoupDaJ: Have you ever been able to log in?
#1476 [19:37] <SoupDaJ> yes but not on the game part
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#1478 [19:37] <Smanly> SoupDaJ: So, only online
#1479 [19:37] <SoupDaJ> yes
#1480 [19:38] <Smanly> SoupDaJ: Are you sure your payment wne through?
#1481 [19:38] <SoupDaJ> yes it sended me a email
#1482 [19:38] <Smanly> What payment method did you use?
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#1484 [19:38] <Smanly> o/
#1485 [19:38] <Smanly> o/
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#1496 [20:20] <nick> i cant get my game to load it says its damaged
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#1498 [20:20] <Guest38991> so do u guys text back?
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#1501 [20:26] <Sargentblueberry> I tried to install a mod yesterday and now when i try to go on to minecraft it wont go past the "mincraft updating-done" page. I really need help.
#1502 [20:27] <Sargentblueberry> Can anyone help me?
#1503 [20:28] <Lutzee> ??> Sargentblueberry forceupdate
#1504 [20:28] <VoxelHead> Sargentblueberry: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1505 [20:28] <VoxelHead> Sargentblueberry: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1506 [20:28] <Sargentblueberry> I can't get into mincraft at all.
#1507 [20:29] <Sargentblueberry> I'll try though
#1508 [20:31] <Sargentblueberry> Thanks. Got it to work.
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#1512 [20:35] <ccohrs12> I paid for the software and went to download at which point I was told I have bad video drivers
#1513 [20:35] <ccohrs12> Am I able to get a refund
#1514 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1515 [20:36] <osuka_> lol
#1516 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> but you can easily update your video drivers.
#1517 [20:36] <ccohrs12> I thought maybe I could run online is that not possible.
#1518 [20:36] <osuka_> won't change anything I'm afraid
#1519 [20:36] <osuka_> wait a second, let me get you the Mojang knowledge base link on refunds
#1520 [20:37] <osuka_> also GreyVulpine I don't think you use IE but I heard of some zero-day exploits
#1521 [20:37] <osuka_> which allow for arbitrary code execution
#1522 [20:37] <osuka_> the problem is, you tell the average user this, he's not gonna understand pretty much anything
#1523 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> IE?
#1524 [20:37] <ccohrs12> my son really wanted this software how can I update the video drivers any guidance on that
#1525 [20:37] <ccohrs12> Internet Explorer
#1526 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> haven't used ie in forever
#1527 [20:38] <Lutzee> ??> ccohrs12 win/dxdiag
#1528 [20:38] <VoxelHead> ccohrs12: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1529 [20:38] <VoxelHead> ccohrs12: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1530 [20:38] <osuka_> GreyVulpine: well IE is just like Minecraft's wooden pick
#1531 [20:38] <Lutzee> Lets find out what your graphics chipset it first so we can point you in the right direction
#1532 [20:38] <osuka_> you need it if you want anything better
#1533 [20:38] <osuka_> (if you're on Windows ofc)
#1534 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> ftp.
#1535 [20:39] <Lutzee> osuka_: keep the chrome install binarry on a memstick ;)
#1536 [20:39] <osuka_> Lutzee: I hate Chrome
#1537 [20:39] <Lutzee> then FF
#1538 [20:39] <osuka_> I'd just use it if the only option I had was IE
#1539 [20:39] <osuka_> which is not much of an option, but...
#1540 [20:40] * GreyVulpine uses opera
#1540 [20:41] * osuka_ uses Opera and FF
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#1541 [20:44] <ccohrs12> So I copy and pasted the data and clicked submit and got a lot of additional data in the Raw Paste Data section. Where is the link that you are mentioning?
#1542 [20:44] <Lutzee> ccohrs12: the address bar of your browser
#1543 [20:45] <ccohrs12> what is the IRC Channel??
#1544 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> you are in one
#1545 [20:45] <ccohrs12> http://pastebin.com/NCZ1rCWe
#1546 [20:46] <osuka_> GreyVulpine: what are we looking for in his dxdiag, again?
#1547 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Video card/drivers
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#1549 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Looks like there isn't one installed. PCI database gives a "NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135M"
#1550 [20:47] <osuka_> lemme get the link for that
#1551 [20:47] <osuka_> brb
#1552 [20:48] <osuka_> or even better, no mistakes here
#1553 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-notebook-win7-winvista-32bit-305.93-whql-driver.html
#1554 [20:48] <DiskDaemon> And the D630 specs also say that it has a "Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100"
#1555 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Please download and install that
#1556 [20:49] <osuka_> ccohrs12: Enter here http://www.geforce.com/drivers and click "auto detect my GPU"
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#1558 [20:49] <osuka_> GreyVulpine: Isn't it easier the automatic tool for that?
#1559 [20:49] * GreyVulpine baps osuka_
#1559 [20:49] * osuka_ baps GreyVulpine back
#1559 [20:49] <osuka_> :3
#1560 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Why be lazy and suggest an auto updater, when the exact video card's drivers can easily be found?
#1561 [20:50] <Lutzee> I just went to look from the dell website..
#1562 [20:51] <osuka_> GreyVulpine: because well... it's easier ._.
#1563 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> And also gives a chance of failure, especially because there isn't a preexisting driver installed that it can detect
#1564 [20:51] <osuka_> GreyVulpine: and yes, I'm lazy.
#1565 [20:51] <Lutzee> GreyVulpine: you sure he has a D630c? that is the only one of the 4 d630's with th nvidia chipset in it
#1566 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Lutzee - Absolutely.
#1567 [20:51] <osuka_> GreyVulpine: So you're assuming the dxdiag also has a chance of failure?
#1568 [20:52] <osuka_> I mean, even it it didn't come up with results, it wouldn't pick a random driver for him
#1569 [20:52] <osuka_> or her, id on't knwo
#1570 [20:52] <osuka_> I don't know*
#1571 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> No, the dxdiag is telling me that the quadro card is what is installed. He's running a standard VGA driver
#1572 [20:52] <ccohrs12> I like the easier way thank you I am downloading now
#1573 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Learn to read a dxdiag
#1574 [20:53] <Lutzee> Ahh ofcourse the intel graphics are integrated into the chipset, thus would have some form of intel chipset installed
#1575 [20:53] <osuka_> GreyVulpine: I know mate. It's just that everything has the slightest chance of failing
#1576 [20:53] <osuka_> Lutzee: It's part intel.
#1577 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Dxdiag is telling you, "Card name: Standard VGA Graphics Adapter", because there's no driver installed for the system. Windows is pulling a standard VGA driver.
#1578 [20:54] <Lutzee> What? nVidia has nothing to do with intel
#1579 [20:54] <DiskDaemon> So, would the discrete chipset information be of relevance here?
#1580 [20:54] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/discrete
#1581 [20:54] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#1582 [20:54] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#1583 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Next, you look down at: Vendor ID: 0x10DE
#1584 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Enter that into: http://www.pcidatabase.com/
#1585 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Get Nvidia corp. You now know there's a card by nvidia in that system (you can actually skip this step)
#1586 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Line below, states : Device ID: 0x042B
#1587 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> http://www.pcidatabase.com/search.php?device_search_str=0x042B&device_search=Search
#1588 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Oh look. NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135 card.
#1589 [20:56] <Lutzee> GreyVulpine: that site looks very useful :)
#1590 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Been using it for years.
#1591 [20:56] <osuka_> lol never saw that
#1592 [20:56] <osuka_> should help a low
#1593 [20:56] <osuka_> lot*
#1594 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> You can also parse the same information from the system devices list: Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_042B&SUBSYS_01F91028&REV_A1\4&384E29F3&0&0008
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#1599 [21:02] <Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous> hey can anyone give me a possible solution for a black screen after installing risugami's modloader?
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#1601 [21:02] <Lutzee> You didn't follow the instructions
#1602 [21:02] <Lutzee> also
#1603 [21:02] <Lutzee> ?? mods
#1604 [21:02] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1605 [21:02] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1606 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
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#1608 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> Having provided that info, one possible reason may be due to you not having dealt with the META-INF folder
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#1610 [21:06] <danny> is there a minecraft for windows 8
#1611 [21:06] <Lutzee> danny: the standard windows launcher should work fine
#1612 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft does not have different versions for different operating systems
#1613 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> Or more correctly, for different windows operating systems
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#1615 [21:07] <danny> it tells me i have a bad video card
#1616 [21:07] <Lutzee> ahh right...
#1617 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Issue isn't that minecraft will or will not run on windows 8. Issue is that your video card manufacturer may not have drivers for it
#1618 [21:08] <Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous> i delete the meta inf file every time and it still does'nt work
#1619 [21:08] <danny> o
#1620 [21:08] <ccohrs12> just wanted to check back in with you all... thank you for your assistance the video driver is all taken care of and the program is running great... thanks again and have a great day/night
#1621 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> ccohrs12 - Glad we could help.
#1622 [21:08] <Lutzee> Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous: we can't help you to get it to work apart from advising the most basic possibilities
#1623 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous - Are you sure you're using the right version of modloader for the right version of minecraft?
#1624 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous: Technical support for modloader can be obtained from its forum at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/75440-
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#1627 [21:09] <danny> so what do i do
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#1629 [21:10] <Lutzee> ??> danny win/dxdiag
#1630 [21:10] <VoxelHead> danny: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1631 [21:10] <VoxelHead> danny: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1632 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Look up if your video card manufacturer has windows 8 drivers
#1633 [21:10] <Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous> well screw you guys too, i'll comb through every freaking post on risugami's thread
#1634 [21:11] <danny> ???
#1635 [21:11] <Lutzee> Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous: reading the main post should help you enough
#1636 [21:11] <DiskDaemon> Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous: We've tried to tell you that we don't provide support for mods here. I'm sorry if you don't like that.
#1637 [21:13] <Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous> i freaking know that but just looking at his thread's tell's me he probably won't help out with black screens
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#1641 [21:14] <Lutzee> The install instructions are crystal clear, so try again
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#1644 [21:14] <DiskDaemon> Mr_Scorpio_The_Anonymous: There is a dedicated channel here that... dammit
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#1646 [21:15] <Eddie> People with insanely long names are annoying.
#1647 [21:15] <Dream_Rider> lol
#1648 [21:16] <Dream_Rider> -/nick Extremely_long_and_annoying -- probably to long lol
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#1672 [22:04] <anthonyamado> hey when will i recieve the premium status of minecraft?
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#1674 [22:06] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1675 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1676 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Bah. Ninja'd
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#1682 [22:09] <mickster04> hum
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#1687 [22:16] <TNT1992> How do I get in contact with the service team to remove the 24 hour waiting time?
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#1689 [22:16] <mickster04> i hear smoke signals kinda works?
#1690 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> TNT1992: That's not possible
#1691 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> That's something you'll need to contact Moneybookers for, instead of Mojang
#1692 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Or you can try Paypal as an alternative
#1693 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> TNT1992" It is the company that handles Mojang's payments, which is giving the 24 hour waiting time. They are moneybookers. The white background it from moneybooker's payment gateway.
#1694 [22:17] <TNT1992> Ok, thank you for the help.
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#1705 [22:34] <anthonyamado> hey why is my visa card being declined dand frozen for the next 24 hours?
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#1711 [23:23] <Rayndum> Excuse me, I keep having constant lag spikes in minecraft, and am searching for a way to keep it smooth. Anyone?
#1712 [23:25] <Wug> what version are you using
#1713 [23:25] <Rayndum> 1.2.5
#1714 [23:25] <Wug> upgrade to latest.
#1715 [23:26] <Eddie> Outdated!
#1716 [23:26] <Rayndum> I use outdated for certain mods that have not been updated.
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#1718 [23:27] <DiskDaemon> Then issues with older versions will need to be accepted as a matter of course
#1719 [23:27] <Wug> the "lag spike of death" as it was referred to in 1.2 has been fixed since 1.3
#1720 [23:27] <Rayndum> -facedesk-
#1721 [23:28] <Rayndum> Well, what happens is I get lag spikes about every 2-3 seconds
#1722 [23:28] <Wug> yep we know
#1723 [23:28] <Rayndum> Optifine was supposed to help with lag spikes of death, but it really isn't
#1724 [23:28] <Wug> its "The Lagspike of Death"
#1725 [23:29] <DiskDaemon> Those spikes come from other processes on your computer not leaving enough cpu time for the game
#1726 [23:29] <Wug> a problem inherent to 1.2
#1727 [23:29] <Wug> DiskDaemon: google lagspike of death minecraft
#1728 [23:29] <Wug> its a problem specific to older versions
#1729 [23:29] <Wug> iirc it had to do with grass growth
#1730 [23:29] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1255713-minecraft-125-lag-spikes-of-death-are-my-bane/
#1731 [23:29] <Wug> which happened in pulses every few seconds
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#1733 [23:31] <Wug> DiskDaemon: I love how his post indicates using 32 bit java on 64 bit windows helps
#1734 [23:31] <Rayndum> Grass growth....Srsly
#1735 [23:31] <Wug> Rayndum: or tall grass or something
#1736 [23:31] * Smanly is now known as Smanly|Away
#1737 [23:31] <Wug> in any case, it should be fixed in versions later than 1.3
#1738 [23:32] <Rayndum> Well, I'm screwed until redpower 2 and computercraft ups to 1.3.
#1739 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Go yell at them to update
#1740 [23:33] <Rayndum> So, does anyone have a magic program that gives people's phone numbers? -gets home phone- o-o
#1741 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> An alternative is to downgrade to an even earlier version of Minecraft that doesn't suffer the same problem
#1742 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> Rayndum: No magic program is necessary - my phone number is 027 238 6458
#1743 [23:33] <Eddie> Here's a whip in case yelling isn't enough.
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#1746 [23:33] <Rayndum> Disk, do you have a hand in redpower2 or computer craft?
#1747 [23:34] <DiskDaemon> nope
#1748 [23:34] <Wug> GreyVulpine: don't you have to be at work in 2 hours
#1749 [23:34] <Rayndum> So calling you wouldn't result in results.
#1750 [23:34] <Rayndum> Eddie, I prefer my belt. o-o
#1751 [23:35] <Eddie> Oh okay.
#1752 [23:35] <Rayndum> Appreciated
#1753 [23:35] * Wug hands Rayndum the Point Of View Gun
#1753 [23:35] <DiskDaemon> Perhaps not the results that may be desired, but results would occur none-the-less
#1754 [23:35] <Rayndum> Whut?
#1755 [23:35] <Wug> just zap them with this
#1756 [23:35] <Rayndum> What results might that be?
#1757 [23:35] <Rayndum> Is that gun
#1758 [23:35] <Rayndum> From..
#1759 [23:35] <Rayndum> -thinks-
#1760 [23:35] <Wug> yes
#1761 [23:35] <Wug> yes it is.
#1762 [23:36] <Rayndum> Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy?
#1763 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> Wug - Pfft. Nope
#1764 [23:36] <Wug> don't give it to marvin.
#1765 [23:36] <Wug> he'll nuke everything.
#1766 [23:36] <Rayndum> AmIright?
#1767 [23:36] <Wug> don't ask where I got it. <.<
#1768 [23:37] <Rayndum> I'm gonna try a few different options tomorrow.
#1769 [23:37] <Rayndum> Apparently chunking optifine in the jar works better.
#1770 [23:38] <Rayndum> So we'll see.
#1771 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> So I finally got my microUSB to USB connector in the mail for my phone. Plug in my 8 gig USB drive, it works. Plug in my 64 gig USB drive. Doesn't work. Reformat. Doesn't work. Format to NTFS from FAT32, doesn't work. Format back to FAT32, works again.
#1772 [23:38] <Rayndum> Thank you for your advice people.
#1773 [23:38] <Wug> GreyVulpine: sounds about right
#1774 [23:38] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1774 [23:38] <Wug> the polarity of the FAT32 must have been wrong
#1775 [23:38] <Wug> you must have formatted it NORTH the first time
#1776 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1777 [23:38] <Rayndum> Translation: The stars weren't aligned correctly by the god's will
#1778 [23:39] <Wug> converters only support SOUTH polarized storage
#1779 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> I'm still liking the option of plugging in my laptop mouse into my android phone...
#1780 [23:39] <Wug> NTFS should have worked, it automatically converts from N to S
#1781 [23:39] <Wug> what do you think defragmenting is for
#1782 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Point of defragmenting a NAND flash drive device?
#1783 [23:40] <Wug> to change the polarity obviously
#1784 [23:40] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#1784 [23:40] * Wug nands GreyVulpine with Kealper, produces DiskDaemon
#1784 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Hey!
#1785 [23:41] <Wug> its an identity@
#1786 [23:41] <Wug> with this knowledge, I can produce an army of DiskDaemons
#1787 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> The world is not ready for this
#1788 [23:43] <Rayndum> Disappointed..
#1789 [23:43] <Rayndum> The redpower mod hasn't been updated since may 20th
#1790 [23:44] <Rayndum> And computercraft..
#1791 [23:44] <Rayndum> July 27th.
#1792 [23:45] <Rayndum> Dead, ass, mods..
#1793 [23:46] <Eddie> Oh no, you cannot allow yourself to think that.
#1794 [23:46] <Eddie> Maybe after 6 months, but not 2 months.
#1795 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> "Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit"
#1796 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> When you know the MS engineers can't think up of a better name.
#1797 [23:51] <Rayndum> Well..
#1798 [23:51] <Rayndum> I just really like the mods, and the minecraft people have updated lots already.
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#1801 [23:58] <Rayndum> Night everyone.
#1802 [23:58] <Rayndum> I hope these mods aren't dead.
#1803 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Night
#1804 [23:58] <Rayndum> They're great for 1.2.5.
#1805 [23:58] <Rayndum> Like
#1806 [23:58] <Rayndum> I built a machine that makes potions automatically so long as you put in required ingredients and bottles..
#1807 [23:59] <Rayndum> You just can't do that in normal mc.
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