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#2 [00:12] <Dragonriot> looking for help with Minecraft XBox version... trying to spawn friendly mobs on a Skyblock map, and have a 7x6 grass area more than 24 blocks away from my bed, and a 2x6x6 pool for squiddies to spawn more than 24 spaces in the opposite direction... neither has produced a single animal... anyone have tips on getting these elusive mobs to spawn so I can complete the challenges?
#3 [00:14] <DiskDaemon> Dragonriot: You can spread grass to neighbouring dirt blocks
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#8 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, I'm checking out installing Minecraft on a virtual machine that's running ESET, but no problem seems to be occurring. That makes it devilishly difficult for me to experience the same issue that others have reported in relation to ESET
#9 [00:21] <Dragonriot> DiskDaemon: the 6x7 dirt area is all the available dirt I have that isn't being used for farms... it is ALL grass... the mobs just won't spawn on it.
#10 [00:22] <DiskDaemon> Dragonriot: Spread the grass across different chunks, to give the animals a greater opportunity to spawn
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#13 [00:25] <Dragonriot> it's XBox, i can't just plant a grass block here and there... spreading grass across the map takes a ton of time and effort.
#14 [00:25] <DiskDaemon> Yes, spreading grass takes time and effort - the sooner you get started the better
#15 [00:26] <Dragonriot> lol
#16 [00:26] <Dragonriot> it took me two days to get the grass where it is now...
#17 [00:27] <Dragonriot> and I'm pretty sure friendly Mobs won't spawn less than 24 blocks away from you... so it's really, currently the only option unless I expand the whole skyblock to the next Chunk over.
#18 [00:28] <DiskDaemon> Dragonriot: From what I'm reading too, it's rare for animals to spawn in already generated chunks. When a chunk is loaded (such as if you go a long way away and then come back) there is then a 1/10 change of animals spawning in that chunk
#19 [00:28] <Smanly> Better get walking
#20 [00:29] <Dragonriot> lol... so basically, I have to build a bridge to the next chunk over, leave my chunk, and come back to get mobs to spawn on the skyblock
#21 [00:29] <Smanly> lol yes
#22 [00:30] <Dragonriot> sounds like fun... at least in XBox, it only draws one chunk at a time when you're near the game ceiling, so it will be easy to tell when I've made it to the next one. heh
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#24 [00:33] <Smanly> Oh, I see
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#28 [00:37] <megus> I cannot connect to minecraft.net in my browser (firefox internet explorer or google chrome) to create an account. i can get to the index page then to the page that i can enter an username my email ect. but when i hit query it says server not found
#29 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.net's having problems today.
#30 [00:38] <megus> :(
#31 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> I'd try again later.
#32 [00:38] <megus> well that makes me feel beter that its not me at least thank you
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#71 [03:15] <Guest78311> hi do you know how to find out your username for the cp
#72 [03:16] <Guest78311> anyone
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#75 [03:17] <matteh> hey
#76 [03:17] <Andrio> Hi
#77 [03:21] <matteh> so I'm trying to change my password but I can't verify my identity. All the answers that should be correct to my secret questions are coming up wrong and I don't know what could have happened
#78 [03:22] <Andrio> Are you spelling your answers exactly as you did when you set it up?
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#83 [03:30] <matteh> there's no other possibility for the answers hey, I've tried several variations of capitals and extra words but it just doesnt make sense
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#87 [03:52] <matteh> does anyone know what I should do?
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#106 [05:00] <giraffes> Hello, i'm trying to register on minecraft website but i keep getting a blank page "bad authenticity token". Anyone can help me?
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#110 [05:06] <giraffes> Hello, when i try to register an account on minecraft website i get a blank page "Bad authenticity token". Can you help me?
#111 [05:08] <Calinou> giraffes: what browser do you use?
#112 [05:08] <giraffes> i tried safari and chrome
#113 [05:08] <giraffes> i'm on mac os x 10.8
#114 [05:09] <Calinou> make sure you enable cookies
#115 [05:09] <Calinou> they are enabled by default in chrome
#116 [05:13] <giraffes> Well, now on chrome it worked. I haven't changed anything, i don't know... but thank you!
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#146 [07:45] <danny5499> can i have a working link to the newest aether
#147 [07:46] <danny5499> #aethermod
#148 [07:47] <danny5499> can i have a working link to the newest aether
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#160 [08:13] <taft> We have forgotten password for acct for minecraft, we have gone to minecraft reset password link and in turn received an email with a link to go to in the next six hours to reset the password....everytime we go to the link in our email
#161 [08:13] <taft> it tells us the link is a bad link
#162 [08:14] <Lutzee> resend the email
#163 [08:14] <Lutzee> Each link expires the first time you click it
#164 [08:17] <taft> ok that worked thank you now could you tell me how to play as a single player? someone said to go under games?
#165 [08:18] <Lutzee> You have downloaded the launcher/
#166 [08:18] <Lutzee> ?
#167 [08:18] <Necrodoom> start up launcher, login, go singleplayer
#168 [08:19] <taft> yes, I believe twice? I will try that, just trying to set this up for my son..
#169 [08:19] <taft> so we just run it from where it downloaded each time he wants to play?
#170 [08:20] <Lutzee> Yes, you can move the launcher to somewhere easy to find like the desktop if you want
#171 [08:20] <taft> Ok thank you going to try that too!
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#174 [08:27] <professorx00> hey all I have a problem wioth minecraft.. it plays and loads up but theres no sound when i try to turn it on it crashes any suggestions?
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#194 [09:55] <DeshaneFamily> I am trying to pay for the game using Mastercard put the screen where you enter the informaiton is all messed up and I cant enter into the fields properly
#195 [09:55] <Lutzee> Which browser are you using?
#196 [09:55] <DeshaneFamily> what do u mean which browser?
#197 [09:57] <DeshaneFamily> I am using the .net one
#198 [09:57] <DeshaneFamily> http://www.minecraft.net/store/game
#199 [09:57] <Lutzee> Er as in internet explorer, firefox, google chroms, safari etc
#200 [09:57] <DeshaneFamily> explorer
#201 [09:58] <DeshaneFamily> shall I use a different one?
#202 [09:58] <Lutzee> Odd, Reload the page, and make sure you have cookies enabled
#203 [09:58] <DeshaneFamily> OK I will try
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#205 [10:00] <Calinou> Lutzee: minecraft.net works with internet exploder? I am surprised :P
#206 [10:00] <DeshaneFamily> where do I enable cookies again?
#207 [10:01] <Calinou> should be in control panel > "internet options"
#208 [10:01] <Calinou> or use a better browser with a sensible options menu :p
#209 [10:02] <DeshaneFamily> ok give me a min
#210 [10:04] <DeshaneFamily> OK I changed cookies and went into site I can see the info but it is distorted
#211 [10:05] <DeshaneFamily> only where you pay after I select master card then the next sreen it goes to where you enter the info it is not clear is there another way to pay?
#212 [10:05] <Lutzee> you can try paypal
#213 [10:05] <DeshaneFamily> Can I call in with the number I want to put on Mastercard
#214 [10:06] <DeshaneFamily> did you try to see what I am talking about.. if this happens with more than one person.. may stop people from purchasing
#215 [10:07] <Lutzee> I Can't actually get to the page because i allready have a premium account, it won't let me :/
#216 [10:08] <DeshaneFamily> I tried visa and same thing happened... can you make a new account and try?
#217 [10:08] <DeshaneFamily> or is there a number I can call to just tell them to put that info on my account?
#218 [10:09] <Lutzee> Er no there is no number, try another browser
#219 [10:09] <Smanly> What was the issue again?
#220 [10:09] <Smanly> The site is broken?
#221 [10:09] <Lutzee> Sounds like the sites formatting is breaking on IE xD
#222 [10:09] <Smanly> Yeah...
#223 [10:09] <DeshaneFamily> I think I can go through the paypal way maybe using my credit card
#224 [10:10] <DeshaneFamily> yes the formatting is off.. I can not enter the required info
#225 [10:10] <Smanly> Could you send us a screen shot of the issue?
#226 [10:10] <Smanly> And get a good web browser.
#227 [10:11] <Smanly> The site looks fine. perhaps you have some outdated software?
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#229 [10:13] <Smanly> lolwut
#230 [10:14] <DeshaneFamily> OK trying to go back in will try to do a screen shot..can I paste it here?
#231 [10:14] <Lutzee> use imgur.com
#232 [10:14] <Lutzee> then copy the link to it here
#233 [10:16] <DeshaneFamily> http://www.minecraft.net/store/purchase
#234 [10:16] <DeshaneFamily> this is where I can not enter the information
#235 [10:18] <DeshaneFamily> imgur says that file type is not supported
#236 [10:20] <DeshaneFamily> I am trying to pay through paypay now as a guest
#237 [10:22] <DeshaneFamily> I have to go back to work.. are you all OK now.. or do you need anthing further from me to fix that issue
#238 [10:23] <Lutzee> There isn't much we can do other than recommend things to do, but i won't be arround for much longer today
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#240 [10:24] <DeshaneFamily> is there an accounting department for minecraft that I can just call and give them my info.. it is a prepaid mastercard and paypal doesnt like it all I want to do is pay for the game been trying for one hour
#241 [10:25] <Lutzee> Oh god prepaid cards.... they tend not to work :/
#242 [10:25] <Lutzee> and no there is no support number
#243 [10:25] <Lutzee> only an email that has a 3 month backlog of emails :/
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#245 [10:26] <Smanly> <Marc_IRL> [23:38:36] Oh, good news everyone. The support backlog is being eviscerated.
#246 [10:26] <Smanly> <GreyVulpine> [23:38:52] Oh?
#247 [10:26] <Smanly> <Marc_IRL> [23:39:01] We're down to 33% of what we had a month ago
#248 [10:26] <DeshaneFamily> it says for online purchases.. great.. um.. I will try to load into paypal.. lol
#249 [10:28] <Lutzee> prepaid cards are a pain for overseas purchases, as mojang is based in sweeden it causes problems :p
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#257 [11:06] <PLzcallmesteve> hello
#258 [11:06] <PLzcallmesteve> ?
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#263 [11:20] <Dragonriot> anyone have any idea why my curse login isn't working on the forums? is it broken or something? I've been a curse premium member for years, have a login, and had the same name forever, but the minecraftforum.net login says my account doesn't exist... even though I just logged in to curse.com with it.
#264 [11:21] <Necrodoom> Dragonriot: i think that belongs to #minecraftforums
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#294 [12:27] <SliceTheRice> HELLO?
#295 [12:27] <SliceTheRice> I NEED FKING HELP
#296 [12:27] <SliceTheRice> I decided to fucking migrate my Minecraft account and now I cant evne log in
#297 [12:27] * AuBot kicked SliceTheRice from #minecrafthelp (Reason: liceTheRice :Please keep it civil.)
#298 [12:27] <Necrodoom> lol
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#301 [12:28] <SliceTheRice> Can anyone help me?
#302 [12:28] <Necrodoom> as aubot said, keep it civil
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#304 [12:28] <SliceTheRice> im not stupid i can read
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#306 [12:29] <SliceTheRice> i migrated my account like an hour ago
#307 [12:29] <SliceTheRice> and now i cant log in
#308 [12:29] <SliceTheRice> i activiated my account via hotmail
#309 [12:29] <SliceTheRice> and i even used that email to log in
#310 [12:29] <SliceTheRice> it says Unknown e-mail address or password.
#311 [12:29] <SliceTheRice> who can help me?
#312 [12:30] <SliceTheRice> can u un migrate ur account -.-
#313 [12:30] <SliceTheRice> i personally think its really stupid
#314 [12:30] <SliceTheRice> how u cant login with ur minecraft id
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#316 [12:31] <Smanly> Can you log in on the website?
#317 [12:31] <SliceTheRice> good luck finding help in thsi fking chatroom
#318 [12:31] <Smanly> Right...
#319 [12:31] <Smanly> SliceTheRice: Fell free to leave.
#320 [12:31] <Smanly> Fell*
#321 [12:31] <Necrodoom> SliceTheRice: UNoffical help chat room
#322 [12:32] <Necrodoom> people gotta sleep, you know
#323 [12:32] <SliceTheRice> its 9:31 am..
#324 [12:32] <SliceTheRice> who sleeps?
#325 [12:32] <Smanly> And where is that?
#326 [12:32] <SliceTheRice> cali?
#327 [12:32] <Necrodoom> lol, learn time zones
#328 [12:32] <Smanly> I would normally be a sleep right now.
#329 [12:32] <SliceTheRice> ur telling me to learn timezones..?
#330 [12:32] <SliceTheRice> how bout u fking learn timezones dumbas
#331 [12:32] <Necrodoom> lol
#332 [12:33] <Smanly> SliceTheRice: You do know that Mojang is based in Sweden, right?
#333 [12:33] <SliceTheRice> yup
#334 [12:33] <Necrodoom> 9:31 AM for you isnt 9:31 AM for everyone
#335 [12:33] <SliceTheRice> but i would thought someone here that rep for mojang in cali timezone
#336 [12:33] <Necrodoom> again: UNOFFICAL chat
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#338 [12:33] <Smanly> SliceTheRice: No one in this chat is a Rep for mojang.
#339 [12:33] <Smanly> In any time zone
#340 [12:33] <SliceTheRice> oh wow
#341 [12:33] <SliceTheRice> gEE
#342 [12:33] <SliceTheRice> FUCK
#343 [12:33] * AuBot kicked SliceTheRice from #minecrafthelp (Reason: liceTheRice :Please keep it civil.)
#344 [12:34] <Smanly> -_-
#345 [12:34] <Selbram> LOL
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#347 [12:34] <Necrodoom> brainless so much
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#349 [12:37] <Selbram> They waltz in with a big pile of assumptions and get pissed when they are wrong.
#350 [12:38] <Necrodoom> seen one assuming that im a developer of minecraft after i told him to stop spamming #minecraft
#351 [12:38] <Necrodoom> blaming me for "writing shit code, doesnt know how to fix"
#352 [12:38] <Necrodoom> -__
#353 [12:39] <Selbram> hahahaha
#354 [12:39] <Selbram> nice
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#356 [12:39] <Selbram> I do not feel bad for them
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#358 [12:39] <Selbram> they are the ones that *decide* how things are before actually learning any of the facts
#359 [12:40] <Decoy> Hey everyone, a friend of mine is having trouble registering an account. She gets the error message "'bad authenticity token". Any ideas what might be going on?
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#367 [12:55] <Gamer123> hallo can i speak germn???
#368 [12:55] <Gamer123> german
#369 [12:56] <Necrodoom> english
#370 [12:56] <Gamer123> okay
#371 [12:56] <Gamer123> can you help me aboute my account!
#372 [12:57] <Gamer123> i will dedate it?
#373 [12:57] <Gamer123> dealeate
#374 [12:57] <Smanly> Delete?
#375 [12:57] <Gamer123> yes
#376 [12:57] <Gamer123> can you help me for this
#377 [12:57] <Smanly> To delete you account?
#378 [12:57] <Gamer123> yes
#379 [12:57] <Smanly> You can't do that. I don't know why you would want to.
#380 [12:58] <Gamer123> i will change my username or i will delete my acc!
#381 [12:58] <Gamer123> can you help me for this
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#383 [12:59] <Necrodoom> you cant delete your account.
#384 [12:59] <Gamer123> and can i change my username
#385 [12:59] <Boreeas> Gamer123: Warum möchtest du deinen Account löschen?
#386 [12:59] <Necrodoom> nope.
#387 [12:59] <Necrodoom> your IF arugment is a paradox.
#388 [13:00] <Gamer123> weil mein username mir nicht mehr paast ich ahbe auch meine minecarft noch nicht gekauft nur ein acc gemacht und will einen neuen erstellen aber mit der selben e-mail
#389 [13:01] <Gamer123> breeas??? kannst du mir helfen
#390 [13:01] <Boreeas> Gamer123: So lange du noch nicht dafür bezahlt hast, erstell einfach einen neuen
#391 [13:01] <Gamer123> ja aber des geht ned mit der selben e-mail könnten sie minen acc bitte löschen???
#392 [13:01] <Boreeas> Aber sei vorsichtig wenn du das spiel kaufst, wie dieser Artiekl hier beschreibt, kannst du deinen Namen nicht ändern: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329525-can-i-change-my-username-
#393 [13:01] <Boreeas> Nein, Accounts löschen geht auch nicht
#394 [13:02] <Gamer123> warum aber sie können den acc doch von dem server bezahlen?
#395 [13:02] <Gamer123> entfernen ned bezahlen
#396 [13:02] <Boreeas> Wenn dein Provider Mail-Filter unterstützt, kannst du einfach <deinemail>+minecraft@<deinemailprovider> als E-Mail addresse benutzen
#397 [13:03] <Boreeas> Das Problem ist, das Accounts zu löschen einfach nicht ins System eingebaut ist
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#399 [13:03] <Gamer123> aber könnt ihr das ned eimfach aus dem system entfernen?
#400 [13:03] <Gamer123> ich wil mir keine neue e-mail erstellen!
#401 [13:05] <Gamer123> hallo?
#402 [13:05] <Boreeas> Wir können das schon mal gar nicht, keiner hier ist bei Mojang angestellt. Und soweit ich weiss, löscht das Mojang-Team keine Accounts. Du kannst natürlich hier: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new nachfragen, aber die bearbeitungszeit liegt bei etwas 2 Monaten
#403 [13:05] <Gamer123> oke danke für die hilfe bin kurz afk
#404 [13:05] <Selbram> I am following along with google translate :)
#405 [13:06] <Gamer123> and whats up du you understand all?
#406 [13:06] <Selbram> if you have a gmail account you don't need a new account, or if your mail provider suppers the email+extra@domain.com format
#407 [13:07] <Selbram> suppers=supports
#408 [13:07] <Selbram> Boreeas, glad someone here could help him :)
#409 [13:07] <Boreeas> No problem
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#413 [13:08] <Selbram> google translate is good but still mucks up a lot of stuff
#414 [13:09] <Selbram> mostly sytax and sentence order but I could understand what was going on there
#415 [13:09] <Selbram> :)
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#424 [13:22] <Barmy> why does my login fail?
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#426 [13:23] <Barmy> what is the email to ask for a refund
#427 [13:23] <Smanly> Barmy: Whan you try using the Minecraft.exe?
#428 [13:23] <Smanly> Barmy: There are n refunds
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#430 [13:23] <Smanly> No refunds*
#431 [13:23] <TheNoodle> Barmy, refunds are not offered ^_^
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#433 [13:23] <Barmy> i wanna know why my login fails
#434 [13:23] <Smanly> You could start by answering my questin
#435 [13:24] <Barmy> today/
#436 [13:24] <Barmy> ?
#437 [13:24] <Smanly> What?
#438 [13:24] <TheNoodle> You're questin Smanly? :D
#439 [13:24] <Smanly> <Smanly> Barmy: Whan you try using the Minecraft.exe?
#440 [13:24] <Smanly> That one.
#441 [13:24] <Lord_Ralex> *Whan* he thinks it is when
#442 [13:24] <TheNoodle> Barmy, we need more details than 'my login fails' What's your username? Can you log in at minecraft.net?
#443 [13:24] <Barmy> what does that mean excactly
#444 [13:25] <Barmy> yeh i can log in in mincraf.net
#445 [13:25] <Barmy> but not the acctual game
#446 [13:25] <TheNoodle> And what is your username?
#447 [13:25] <Barmy> Barmy_Army_97
#448 [13:26] <Barmy> why do you need my username?
#449 [13:27] <Calinou> !paid Barmy_Army_97
#450 [13:28] <Barmy> yes i have paid
#451 [13:29] <Barmy> hello any help?
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#453 [13:30] <Calinou> Barmy: be patient
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#455 [13:33] <Selbram> Barmy: all volunteers here
#456 [13:34] <Barmy> does anybody knw what is wrong or is it still a stab in the dark
#457 [13:35] <Selbram> What error do you get when you attempt to login to the game?
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#459 [13:36] <Barmy> it just says login fail
#460 [13:37] <Selbram> And this is when you run minecraft.exe?
#461 [13:37] <Barmy> yeh the icon on my desktop yes
#462 [13:38] <Selbram> And when you go to http://www.minecraft.net you can login with the login link at the top of the page?
#463 [13:38] <Selbram> With that same username?
#464 [13:39] <Barmy> yes
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#466 [13:42] <Selbram> Maybe someone else has a suggestion, it should work and your account is paid for.
#467 [13:42] <Selbram> Has it ever worked?
#468 [13:42] <Barmy> no i bought it today
#469 [13:43] <Selbram> AH
#470 [13:44] <confused2570> Minecraft reboots my computer every time i load the desktop client or the online demo, is there anything i can do to fix this?
#471 [13:44] <Selbram> Barmy: Sometimes the game account does not get activated right away. You may have to wait a bit longer. I am going to guess about 24 hours. Then if you still cannot login I would suggest coming back here or putting in a support ticket.
#472 [13:44] <Selbram> confused2570: Maybe update your video drivers?
#473 [13:44] <confused2570> nah, im all updated
#474 [13:45] <Barmy> heres the thing i think i might no what the problem is, my friend told me to download that mineshafter because it was free so i did then i thought cause i loved it i would buy it and its under the same username could that be the problem
#475 [13:45] <Selbram> mineshafter?
#476 [13:45] <confused2570> not heard o' that
#477 [13:46] <Barmy> yeh its minecraft but free and it all offline unless you download a client thing
#478 [13:46] <Barmy> but i didnt want to
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#480 [13:46] <Selbram> ah it is a pirate system
#481 [13:46] <Selbram> got it
#482 [13:47] <Selbram> try removing all of the mineshafter stuff from your computer
#483 [13:47] <Barmy> kind of so i thought i would give it go because i wanted to try it then wanted to buy the full thing now i really regret getting involved at all
#484 [13:47] <Barmy> i did delete mineshafter
#485 [13:47] <Selbram> do you have another computer you can try minecraft from?
#486 [13:48] <Calinou> confused2570: what operating system are you using? make sure you update drivers through the manufacturer's website, not windows update
#487 [13:48] <Barmy> yeh i might go try that
#488 [13:48] <confused2570> the other computer worked fine, albeit slow and i have XP SP3
#489 [13:49] <Selbram> Barmy: If you bought it from the minecraft.net website and got a confirmation, and we can tag your username and see that it is paid, it should work.
#490 [13:49] <Barmy> shall i just give it a bit and try it later give it time to confirm
#491 [13:51] <Selbram> At this point yeah, if you still cannot login by tommorow, trying from a different computer, just to make sure there is nothing extra causing issues, might help
#492 [13:51] <Selbram> And maybe there might be someone here with a better answer for you as well. :)
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#494 [13:52] <Barmy> is there anyway i can get in touch with mojang about the problem oh another thing is when i double click the icon my open file windows says there is a problem because of no publisher thing
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#496 [13:54] <Selbram> http://help.mojang.com is the only way I know of and it has a really long time to respond.
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#499 [13:56] <Barmy> if i ever get my minecraft working we will have to go on server sometime thanks for help :)
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#501 [13:56] <Selbram> Np :)
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#513 [14:31] <zxz41> How do i make a item stay and take damage in the crafting slot? [Modding with recipe]
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#515 [14:34] <Smanly> wat
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#561 [16:27] <null_fahrenheit> where do pumpkins and melons grow? i dont mean the plant, i mean the block itself. do they appear only al dirt or grass od do they appear at other types of blocks?
#562 [16:28] <CrusaderDeleters> pumpkins are random, they appear in forests, or plains
#563 [16:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Melons must be found as seeds in the abandoned mines
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#565 [16:29] <null_fahrenheit> sorry, i meant something else.
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#567 [16:31] <null_fahrenheit> when you put in a seed, the plant grows. after a while the melon or pumpkin blocks arppear. do they appear above any kind of blocks, or just above dirt or grass?
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#569 [16:32] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm not sure about that, but I know they can grow above grass/dirt/farmed soil
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#571 [16:34] <Smanly> Need to be a form of dirt
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#573 [16:34] <null_fahrenheit> dirt?
#574 [16:35] <Smanly> yeah?
#575 [16:35] <null_fahrenheit> form?
#576 [16:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Any
#577 [16:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Grass, Dirt, Farmed Soil
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#579 [16:36] <null_fahrenheit> whats with sand?
#580 [16:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Sand =/= dirt
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#582 [16:36] <null_fahrenheit> MUST be dirt?
#583 [16:36] <Thomasalexw92> how do i fix my minecraft when it says java virtual machine error
#584 [16:37] <Thomasalexw92> it only does it when i try to run it from my desktop
#585 [16:37] <Smanly> ??>> Thomasalexw92 specs
#586 [16:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Smanly, that didn't work. :P
#587 [16:38] <CrusaderDeleters> ??>> Thomasalexw92 dxdiag
#588 [16:39] <CrusaderDeleters> ??>> index
#589 [16:39] <Thomasalexw92> i have the newest version of java and it is a dell latitude 610 with 2gb of ram
#590 [16:39] <Thomasalexw92> and it is 32bit i believe
#591 [16:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Thomas, try to reinstall Java
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#593 [16:39] <Thomasalexw92> okay and im not sure what gpu it is
#594 [16:39] <Smanly> ??>> CrusaderDeleters specs
#595 [16:39] <Smanly> orly?
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#597 [16:40] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#598 [16:40] <Thomasalexw92> and windows xp
#599 [16:40] <Thomasalexw92> one sec and i will pull it up and look its on my laptop
#600 [16:40] <CrusaderDeleters> *slaps Smanly*
#601 [16:40] <Smanly> Lol, Wait, what didnt work?
#602 [16:40] <CrusaderDeleters> It did
#603 [16:40] <Smanly> Its the 2gb of ram
#604 [16:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Which is why I slapped you. XD
#605 [16:40] <Smanly> Ok, im confused
#606 [16:41] <Smanly> But I agree
#607 [16:42] <Smanly> Thomasalexw92: You will need to launch MC with less RAM
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#609 [16:45] <kip6> i cant open my minecraft
#610 [16:45] <Smanly> kip6: Double click the Minecraft.exe
#611 [16:45] <kip6> i did that
#612 [16:45] <Smanly> What happens?
#613 [16:46] <kip6> nothing
#614 [16:46] <Smanly> Nothing happens? at all?
#615 [16:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Smanly: I believe the Launcher also runs off of Java
#616 [16:46] <Smanly> Well yeah
#617 [16:46] <CrusaderDeleters> I looked within, and saw classes
#618 [16:46] <Smanly> Its just a cloaked .jar
#619 [16:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes
#620 [16:47] <CrusaderDeleters> :P
#621 [16:47] <Smanly> :D
#622 [16:47] <kip6> how do you open it
#623 [16:47] <CrusaderDeleters> ITS A SPY! D:
#624 [16:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Get java
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#626 [16:48] <ParasiticLeech> Hello? I need help.
#627 [16:48] <Thomasalexw92> i uninstalled java and am now reinstalling it i just looked at my computer specs and it says i have 1gb of ram so what could be going on then?
#628 [16:48] <Thomasalexw92> could it just be java wasnt installed right?
#629 [16:48] <CrusaderDeleters> You have 1 gig? ._.
#630 [16:49] <kip6> i dont know
#631 [16:49] <Thomasalexw92> yea thats what it says
#632 [16:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Kip, get java.
#633 [16:49] <Thomasalexw92> ....when i bought it said 2g....
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#635 [16:50] <kip6> is says its 100% completed
#636 [16:50] <ParasiticLeech> I decided to move my minecraft as it was suggested on the site so that I could change to another hotmail since my first is blocked and they won't give it back to me. And now they sent the verification message to that old hotmail and I have no idea what to do...
#637 [16:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Parasitic: Did you have a backup-email for your email?
#638 [16:51] <Smanly> ParasiticLeech: Erm, what? What are you trying to do?
#639 [16:51] <CrusaderDeleters> I had to do that to my account once
#640 [16:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Smanly: Someone hacked his Hotmail, he needs back in
#641 [16:51] <Smanly> Thats not affected by MC
#642 [16:51] <Thomasalexw92> smanly i have 1gb of ram and am reinstalling java so if it still doesnt work what should i do
#643 [16:51] <ParasiticLeech> No, I didn't and I never put my phone number so I can't verify with that either.
#644 [16:51] <Smanly> Thomasalexw92: You need to launch MC with less ram
#645 [16:52] <Thomasalexw92> okay how would i go about doing that?
#646 [16:52] <Selbram> Or get a better computer
#647 [16:52] <Thomasalexw92> yea but i dont have the money for a new computer -.-
#648 [16:52] <Selbram> Can you computer take more ram?
#649 [16:53] <Thomasalexw92> i can play on the site and everything else i just cant get it to run from desktop everytime it says error with the java virtual machine
#650 [16:53] <Thomasalexw92> and yea for about another $60
#651 [16:53] <Thomasalexw92> i can add a gig
#652 [16:53] <Selbram> that is way expensive for a gig of ram
#653 [16:53] <Selbram> what kind of ram does your computer take
#654 [16:54] <Selbram> desktop or laptop
#655 [16:54] <Thomasalexw92> laptop and if it has to do with the java virtual machine then it shouldnt be about ram then though
#656 [16:55] <Thomasalexw92> i wouldnt think so
#657 [16:55] <Selbram> It probably isn't, you may need to reinstall java
#658 [16:55] <Thomasalexw92> thats what im doing now
#659 [16:56] <Selbram> The highest priced memory on newegg for laptops that is 1GB in size is only $42.00
#660 [16:56] <Smanly> Its your ram
#661 [16:56] <Selbram> and gets cheaper from there
#662 [16:56] <Smanly> Java doesnt have enough ram to start.
#663 [16:56] <theunpaidBill> What's the error message Thomasalexw92?
#664 [16:57] <Thomasalexw92> java virtual machine error
#665 [16:57] <Thomasalexw92> everytime
#666 [16:57] <Thomasalexw92> and it says a fatal exception has occured
#667 [16:57] <theunpaidBill> It doesn't say where?
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#669 [16:58] <Thomasalexw92> no its something to do with java is what im guessing because ive ran runescape private servers and wow on this computer because it was my brothers and he has had no problems when he played those
#670 [16:58] <Thomasalexw92> so i wasnt sure
#671 [16:58] <kip6> i had to reinstall java
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#673 [16:58] <Thomasalexw92> so you got the same message?
#674 [16:59] <theunpaidBill> I have found running it from the command line usually gives more info
#675 [16:59] <theunpaidBill> If you're just gui'ing it
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#678 [17:00] <Thomasalexw92> like if i go to the test site or whatever it starts running and reduces the amount of ram and it will run once it reaches about 650mb but if thats the case i dont know how to get it to run off my desktop
#679 [17:00] <Thomasalexw92> and thats where the real issue is i guess lol
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#683 [17:02] <Thomasalexw92> i just changed the command line from 650m too 500m so it will start on a lower level of ram and am reinstalling java so maybe that will help?
#684 [17:04] <DiskDaemon> The recommended amount for Minecraft without mods or fancy texture packs is 384m. You can take it as low as 256m though too
#685 [17:05] <Thomasalexw92> \okay i am reinstalling java the newest version as well should i maybe use an older version that has all the bugs worked out?
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#689 [17:07] <DiskDaemon> Use the most recent version of Java
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#691 [17:10] <NinjaKirby> lol
#692 [17:11] <NinjaKirby> Left before the critical piece of advice, inb4 he returns with latest version of v5
#693 [17:12] <NinjaKirby> DiskDaemon, I'll paypal you a tenner if you call yourself Dolan for a day in here
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#695 [17:12] <DiskDaemon> It's been around for longer and should therefore be more stable. Err, right? :)
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#697 [17:13] <NinjaKirby> Legend
#698 [17:13] <NinjaKirby> "help doland", "which java doland" XD
#699 [17:14] <DiskDaemon> What on earth is a dolan?
#700 [17:14] <NinjaKirby> It's a rather lame reference to... an internet Disney Comic thing.
#701 [17:14] <DiskDaemon> Oh, the meme one, right
#702 [17:14] <NinjaKirby> Indeed
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#705 [17:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Dolan Duck?
#706 [17:20] <NinjaKirby> It's not just "dolan"? :3
#707 [17:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Nope. C:
#708 [17:22] <NinjaKirby> Oh sheeeee-
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#713 [17:43] <ThomQ> ??> servers
#714 [17:43] <ThomQ> Hi all :D
#715 [17:43] <ThomQ> anyone knows the correct keyword? :P
#716 [17:44] <osuka_> Shocky's down
#717 [17:44] <DiskDaemon> ?? smp/servers
#718 [17:44] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#719 [17:44] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
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#721 [17:44] <osuka_> uhh
#722 [17:44] <ThomQ> thanks dd
#723 [17:44] <osuka_> not shocky
#724 [17:44] <osuka_> lol
#725 [17:44] <ThomQ> i was searching minestatus, it seemed the best
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#727 [17:45] <ThomQ> Hey Selbram, good evening
#728 [17:46] <Selbram> Hey thomQ
#729 [17:46] <Selbram> was just popping on real quick to do somthing else, heading off again
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#736 [17:54] <Martinez23> I cannot update minecraft, it gives me a fatal error almost instantly when I attempt to update it. Can anyone help?
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#738 [17:55] <DiskDaemon> What are the details of the error that it gives you?
#739 [17:55] <Martinez23> Fatal error occured (2) : C:\Documents ... ect. Do you need more info than that?
#740 [17:56] <Martinez23> (Access denied) at the end.
#741 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
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#743 [17:56] <Martinez23> I beleive it is, but it is worth a shot thanks.
#744 [17:57] <jessyca> i cant seem to log in
#745 [17:57] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: However, what is the full path that you left out before?
#746 [17:57] <DiskDaemon> !isdown
#747 [17:57] <GreyBot> DiskDaemon: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#748 [17:58] <Martinez23> disabling did not work. and here is everything is says...
#749 [17:58] <DiskDaemon> jessyca: What details can you give us about your situation?
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#751 [17:59] <jessyca> It says that it cant find me
#752 [17:59] <Martinez23> Fatal error occured (2) : C:\Documents and settings\DENNIS\Application Data\.minecraft\bin\version (Access Denied)
#753 [18:00] <jessyca> this is my sons account i just set it up on my computer and logged out on mine and am trying to log in on his
#754 [18:00] <DiskDaemon> jessyca: Reset your password and then try again http://minecraft.net/resetpassword
#755 [18:00] <jessyca> i did that and it still tells me the same thing
#756 [18:00] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: Some people have had that problem due to not having permission to change anything in there. It's time for a reinstall
#757 [18:00] <DiskDaemon> ??> Martinez23 win/reinst
#758 [18:00] <VoxelHead> Martinez23: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#759 [18:00] <VoxelHead> Martinez23: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#760 [18:01] <jessyca> it wont even let me install it
#761 [18:01] <DiskDaemon> jessyca: So it wouldn't be right for you to change his password to try and log in to his account
#762 [18:01] <Martinez23> thanks guys, will attempt.
#763 [18:02] <Martinez23> minecraft doesnt even show up. just a microsoft and diagnostics folder
#764 [18:03] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: Please give me instructions on what you did, so that I can see what you are seeing?
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#766 [18:03] <Martinez23> when i got the failed update or when i tried what vox said?
#767 [18:04] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: Please guide me through what you did. We can't see your screen, so I will need to follow your instructions to get to where you currently are
#768 [18:05] <Martinez23> for minecraft update, i opened the minecraft.exe on my desktop, logged in. It asked me if i would like to update minecraft (havent updated or played since either alpha or beta) i chose yes. then it starts it and instantly gives me the fail
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#770 [18:05] <Martinez23> which i typed out what it tells me on the failed to update.
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#772 [18:06] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: How did you get to where it shows the microsoft and diagnostics folder
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#774 [18:07] <Martinez23> ohh, okay. Apologies. I pressed the windows button simultaneously as the 'R' key as vox suggested. Then typed in - %AppData% and it pressed enter. It popped up 2 folders, one microsoft and one diagnostic folder. Neither of which lead to minecraft anything.
#775 [18:08] <Martinez23> popped up a window containing the 2 folders. - - To be more precise.
#776 [18:09] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: Okay, go to the .minecraft folder instead
#777 [18:09] <DiskDaemon> :folder
#778 [18:09] <WugBot> folder: Minecraft folder locations -- Windows: %appdata%\.minecraft -- Mac: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft -- Linux: ~/.minecraft
#779 [18:10] <Martinez23> done, shows a folder for screenshots and then a file of somesort titled 'lastlogin'
#780 [18:10] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: Carry on following those reinstall instructions from there
#781 [18:10] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/reinst
#782 [18:10] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#783 [18:10] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#784 [18:11] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: From the delete part
#785 [18:11] <Martinez23> what does win/reinst mean? windows reinstall? my assumption
#786 [18:11] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#787 [18:11] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: Which OS are you on?
#788 [18:11] <Martinez23> xp
#789 [18:12] <DiskDaemon> ahh, thought so
#790 [18:12] <Martinez23> yeah. so should i delete the last login and screenshots? idc for the screenshots, and havent a clue what lastlogin means...possibly an autosave? im not sure
#791 [18:13] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: Delete everything except for the saves folder.
#792 [18:14] <Martinez23> No saves folder. Only screenshot folder and 'lastlogin' file
#793 [18:14] <Martinez23> therefore, i will delete both.
#794 [18:14] <Martinez23> Done.
#795 [18:14] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: If there is no saves folder, then that's fine. Delete everything
#796 [18:15] <Martinez23> Completed. What might be my next step to possibly accomplishing my frustrating task?
#797 [18:15] <Martinez23> .minecraft - is empty now.
#798 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> Reboot and attempt to install Minecraft again.
#799 [18:17] <Martinez23> is there a way to actually install minecraft other than the small exe?
#800 [18:17] <Martinez23> Making sure I didnt overlook something
#801 [18:17] <DiskDaemon> Normally XP user accounts should have no trouble with making changes to their own area. I'm fuzzy on how to resolve any such XP issue now though
#802 [18:17] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: No
#803 [18:18] <Martinez23> Alright. Thanks DiskDaemon. I will try this out.
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#808 [18:25] <Martinez23> I am back. And still no luck
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#811 [18:27] <Martinez23> Is there a chance that I didnt get upgraded to premium when the game went full? Because last time I played was before it became the full version. And I had the offer to buy in alpha and get the full game free on release or however they advertised it. And not I am having no such luck.
#812 [18:27] <SeeJay> Macintosh MC 1.3.2: I would like to install a mod. What is the best way to do this?
#813 [18:27] <DiskDaemon> Martinez23: Create a new account on your computer, login to that and see if it works. If it does, then it's definately something wrong with your existing windows profile, in terms of file or folder permissions in your application data area
#814 [18:27] <DiskDaemon> I can't fix such problems, but we can at least try to figure our what the problem is
#815 [18:27] <Martinez23> Alright, thanks. So a new user you mean? I shall try.
#816 [18:28] <Martinez23> I am the admin, cant see why I would not. but i suppose it is worth a shot. I definitely would like to play this. :P thanks.
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#821 [18:45] <ZeroYams> Can I have some help on all my servers it says Can't Reach Server even if they're online.
#822 [18:45] <osuka_> firewalls
#823 [18:45] <osuka_> ?
#824 [18:45] <osuka_> have you checked yours?
#825 [18:46] <ZeroYams> Idk how lol
#826 [18:47] <osuka_> what's your antivirus?
#827 [18:47] <ZeroYams> avg
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#829 [18:49] <osuka_> open up avg
#830 [18:49] <ZeroYams> ok then what
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#847 [19:16] <CrusaderDeleters> asd?
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#851 [19:34] <aussie> hwy can someone tell me why the member mindcraft member shipe i paid for never went through but yall still took my money
#852 [19:35] <aussie> hello someone gonna answer
#853 [19:35] <Lutzee> aussie: if you paid for the game and didn't recieve premium you should contact moneybookers (Mojangs payment system provider)
#854 [19:36] <aussie> i did they sent me here
#855 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> Also - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#856 [19:36] <Lutzee> Moneyboookers sent you here? That's odd
#857 [19:36] <aussie> i paid 6 months ago and it never came
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#859 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> aussie: Please read that article that I linked you to
#860 [19:37] <robin> I purchased minecraft for my I paid 27.00 and now its saying its crashed error
#861 [19:39] <Lutzee> Robin what does the crash report say? if it's a large ammount of text paste it on http//:pastebin.com and copy the link back here
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#869 [19:49] <NinjaKirby> Tonyn O'Name(h), he was an ancestor of the Ha'Nani, a small East African Tribe
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#871 [19:50] <NinjaKirby> Lee Underscore, of the popular North American Verizon Tinterwebz tribe
#872 [19:51] <NinjaKirby> Tonyn, O'wailewu, dante tu kanto mol'yode?
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#875 [19:52] <NinjaKirby> Cr-ap, your Verizon too, maybe they operate in Africa too -_-
#876 [19:52] <NinjaKirby> Having a bit of connection trouble thar
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#885 [20:11] <Dr_Eggman7> Does anyone know have a solution to my problem? My problem is that when I click on the Launcher from minecraft.net, I get an error message: Java Virtual Machine Launcher Could not be created. I already tried redownloading java but that didn't work. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
#886 [20:13] <NinjaKirby> Does typing "Java -Version" (without quotations) into command prompt yield a positive result?
#887 [20:16] <NinjaKirby> Additionally, remember to recycle your plastics and cardboards this week.
#888 [20:17] <osuka_> lol?
#889 [20:17] <Dr_Eggman7> Nothing. Just so you know I have windows xp professional I know that I have Java version 7_u4 because I uninstalled java and installed the previos version since according to my friend he stated that older versions of java are more stable.
#890 [20:18] <NinjaKirby> But you got nothing from the command prompt? If it failed to render the version from that command, then you may be missing the PATH variable.
#891 [20:18] <NinjaKirby> Adobe flash is butchering my firewall atm, wth is going on
#892 [20:19] <Dr_Eggman7> I typed "Java -version" into the "RUN" command on the startup screen and got nothing.
#893 [20:19] <Dr_Eggman7> Startup menu my bad
#894 [20:20] <NinjaKirby> Ah sorry, for clarity, you would have to RUN "cmd" without quotations, and from the Black & White Command Line enter Java -Version
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#896 [20:21] <NinjaKirby> I could be barking up the wrong tree tbh, but I believe the error message may suggest this is a potential problem.
#897 [20:22] <Dr_Eggman7> I will try cmd.
#898 [20:23] <NinjaKirby> I wonder if Windows 8 ditches the command prompt
#899 [20:24] <osuka_> windows 8'll suck
#900 [20:24] <osuka_> not this talk again...
#901 [20:25] <Dr_Eggman7> Got an error: Unrecognized option: -version Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine. Error: A Fatal exeption has occurred. Program will exit.
#902 [20:25] <Dr_Eggman7> What now?
#903 [20:25] <osuka_> what's your java version?
#904 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> Sorry osuka XD Didn'y realise it was so common
#905 [20:25] <Dr_Eggman7> Version 7 update4 (Currently)
#906 [20:26] <osuka_> NinjaKirby: lol that's not it, it's just that I had a bad time thinking about how much windows 8 will fail a couple days ago
#907 [20:26] <osuka_> was a nice talk though
#908 [20:26] <NinjaKirby> lerl XD
#909 [20:26] <osuka_> I ended up raging at life anyways ._.
#910 [20:26] <osuka_> you know that rage that's not actually rage but mostly sadness and nostalgia?
#911 [20:26] <NinjaKirby> I would of thought -version would still work. But Java tries to kick into action with that error message though.
#912 [20:26] <osuka_> I don't know, a mix of rage and hatred and sadness, all together
#913 [20:26] <NinjaKirby> So I guess the PATH line is there.
#914 [20:27] <NinjaKirby> I will now be inclined to google that osuka.
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#916 [20:27] <NinjaKirby> If Java is visible, and can't even display version, that seems pretty derpy.
#917 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> If it's a fresh install, nay overwriting any previous version, then I'm a little stumped...
#918 [20:28] <osuka_> google what?
#919 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> Well, Wiki article the "Rage" thing
#920 [20:28] <osuka_> lol
#921 [20:29] <osuka_> what are you talking about anyways?
#922 [20:29] <NinjaKirby> If anything else is the wiser regarding DrEggmans situation, please shoot
#923 [20:29] <NinjaKirby> *Anyone, not anything, there is no living objects in here.
#924 [20:29] <Dr_Eggman7> I f only I could do print screen for this chat. I typed in "Java" and it pulled up alot of info about it like the main code or something like it.
#925 [20:29] <NinjaKirby> Wait... never mind, ignore that, you know what I mean
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#928 [20:30] <NinjaKirby> Ah, it seems you can right click and select all/copy the text, and pastebin it. Although I'm not sure I could interpret the information.
#929 [20:30] <Dr_Eggman7> what is system assurtions?
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#931 [20:32] <NinjaKirby> O_o Not sure tbh, if you have time you might want to await a regular helper to assist :)
#932 [20:32] <Dr_Eggman7> C:\Documents and Settings\User>Java Usage: java [-options] class [args...] (to execute a class) or java [-options] -jar jarfile [args...] (to execute a jar file) where options include: -d32 use a 32-bit data model if available -d64 use a 64-bit data model if available -client to select the "client" VM -server to select the "server" VM -hotspot
#933 [20:32] <NinjaKirby> Oh lord.
#934 [20:32] <Dr_Eggman7> I figured out how to copy the list.
#935 [20:33] <NinjaKirby> Oh right, they are just more arguments to perform Java commands.
#936 [20:33] <NinjaKirby> I have never seen a use for them when it comes to fixing Minecraft related issues though.
#937 [20:33] <Dr_Eggman7> k.
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#941 [20:37] <Coll> If I were looking for a plugin developer how would I go about doing that without shaking the beehive that is minecraft
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#955 [20:53] <cheezenuggets> We are trying to add the Minecraft portal where you signin as an "allowed" in the parental control for the Mac. we tried compute-1.amazonaws.com which is what came up as the host, but that didn't work. What other hosts should we put in?
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#960 [21:01] <0PLAACH4C> cheezenuggets: you can't stop offline play but you can stop multiplayer with login.minecraft.net and session.minecraft.net
#961 [21:03] <cheezenuggets> We actually want to ALLOW it. Right now we have parental controls limiting websites but it allows us to put in sites that are ok. We tried minecraft.net, but that didn't work. Then we tried finding the host for minecraft.net which is where we got the compute-1.amazonaws.com, but that didn't work - it's still requiring we put in a password when trying to access.
#962 [21:04] <osuka_> try *.minecraft.net
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#964 [21:06] <0PLAACH4C> cheezenuggets: you are a parent? How old is the, erm, subject
#965 [21:06] <osuka_> lol
#966 [21:07] <osuka_> subject
#967 [21:07] <0PLAACH4C> :|
#968 [21:07] <osuka_> rofl
#969 [21:07] <cheezenuggets> Nope. Still not letting us in. Yes - I'm a parent. Subject is 10
#970 [21:07] <0PLAACH4C> what specifically are you trying to allow
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#972 [21:07] <0PLAACH4C> logging in?
#973 [21:08] <osuka_> night people
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#975 [21:08] <cheezenuggets> Yes. When he tries to open the Minecraft app it is requiring me to put in the parental control password before he can get to the login page.
#976 [21:08] <0PLAACH4C> oooh, ok, hang on
#977 [21:09] <0PLAACH4C> It's probably blocking the news page
#978 [21:09] <0PLAACH4C> It's probably blocking the news page
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#980 [21:09] <cheezenuggets> I have tried to say "always allow" minecraft, but none of the websites I put in work
#981 [21:09] <0PLAACH4C> Try adding http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#982 [21:09] <0PLAACH4C> that's the news page the client uses
#983 [21:10] <cheezenuggets> ok. hang on.
#984 [21:10] <0PLAACH4C> don't add the rest of tumblt
#985 [21:10] <0PLAACH4C> tumblr*
#986 [21:11] <cheezenuggets> So still http://mcupdate.tumblr.com?
#987 [21:11] <0PLAACH4C> yes
#988 [21:12] <cheezenuggets> Nope. Still blocking.
#989 [21:12] <0PLAACH4C> If you want, you can try teamviewer so I can look at it myself
#990 [21:13] <cheezenuggets> ok
#991 [21:13] <0PLAACH4C> :tv
#992 [21:13] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#993 [21:13] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#994 [21:14] <0PLAACH4C> I've never been asked this before so I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to make it work
#995 [21:15] <cheezenuggets> I googled it and another parent had found the answer, but it didn't work for me
#996 [21:15] <0PLAACH4C> what software are you using for parental controls
#997 [21:15] <cheezenuggets> Mac OS Mountain Lion
#998 [21:17] <cheezenuggets> ok - i've got ready for id / password
#999 [21:17] <Wug> send them to me with /msg Wug <id password etc etc>
#1000 [21:18] <cheezenuggets> don't understand
#1001 [21:18] <Wug> type: /msg Wug <id and password>
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#1003 [21:19] <ProniX> HAHAHA
#1004 [21:19] <ProniX> Hello everybody
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#1006 [21:22] <krazyk1d> when i click on the minecraft icon , the minecraft login screen shows up. I click login and then the screen goes black?
#1007 [21:22] <Wug> krazyk1d: have you installed any mods?
#1008 [21:22] <ProniX> 14»8 |Anthony| 14» 14»8 |_ocke3 14» 14»8 Zyferus 14» 14»8 Zimsky 14» 14»8 Zic 14» 14»8 Yeti|InHiding 14» 14»8 Yerg 14» 14»8 xy 14» 14»8 xlson 14» 14»8 WildCraze 14» 14»8 w2k 14» 14»8 Vern8k 14» 14»8 uni|offline 14» 14»8 TyRex 14» 14»8 tswett 14» 14»8 tssguy123 14» 14»8 tryy3 14» 14»8 tonynoname2 14» 14»8 tonynoname 14» 14»8 Toagac|gtfoCISPA 14» 14»8 tips48|away 14» 
#1009 [21:23] <krazyk1d> what is happening
#1010 [21:23] <ProniX> UAHAHAHA!
#1011 [21:23] <Zimsky> no
#1012 [21:23] <ProniX> >:D
#1013 [21:23] <Zimsky> go away
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#1017 [21:23] <Zimsky> fgt
#1018 [21:23] <krazyk1d> I have tried
#1019 [21:23] <|_ocke3> wat
#1020 [21:24] <krazyk1d> I downloaded mc patcher
#1021 [21:24] <cheezenuggets> are you still there wug?
#1022 [21:25] <Wug> cheezenuggets: I am, and teamviewer is taking a long time to connect
#1023 [21:25] <krazyk1d> plz?
#1024 [21:25] <Wug> :fu > krazyk1d
#1025 [21:25] <WugBot> krazyk1d: (fu) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1026 [21:25] <WugBot> krazyk1d: (fu) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. (picture: http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png)
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#1028 [21:25] <krazyk1d> ok
#1029 [21:26] <Wug> cheezenuggets: teamviewer is still running on your computer right?
#1030 [21:26] <cheezenuggets> yes
#1031 [21:27] <EssMib_7102> Hi, i have a HUGE issue with my minecraft client
#1032 [21:27] <Wug> Are parental controls on? It's possible they're blocking it from functioning
#1033 [21:27] <krazyk1d> when i clicked force update do i click done after?
#1034 [21:27] <cheezenuggets> At least I think so . . .the screen is still up.
#1035 [21:27] <Wug> krazyk1d: yes, and login
#1036 [21:27] <Lukechlo> We encounter an error trying to log on; when we click on play in browser, it says updating minecraft but it seems to hang up almost at the end; can anyone help?
#1037 [21:27] <krazyk1d> ok
#1038 [21:27] <Wug> Lukechlo: what error are you encountering
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#1040 [21:28] <Wug> EssMib_7102: describe it
#1041 [21:28] <EssMib_7102> im having lag everytime, is not FPS lag, the chunks load fine, everything load fine, but if i join any server it take like 1-3 mins to load the chat
#1042 [21:28] <EssMib_7102> while walking i hear the steps sound with the same time of delay
#1043 [21:28] <Lukechlo> After 2 days of play, we get the message updating minecraft, and the update hangs up almost at the end. It says done loading, but doesn't go on to the game.
#1044 [21:29] <krazyk1d> thank you so very much Wug you r the greatest
#1045 [21:29] <Wug> :fu > Lukechlo
#1046 [21:29] <WugBot> Lukechlo: (fu) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1047 [21:29] <WugBot> Lukechlo: (fu) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. (picture: http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png)
#1048 [21:29] <EssMib_7102> i updated my driver, java, deleted .minecraft folder and tryed with spout client
#1049 [21:29] <krazyk1d> thank u
#1050 [21:29] <EssMib_7102> and still
#1051 [21:29] <Wug> EssMib_7102: all servers or just one
#1052 [21:29] <Wug> krazyk1d: np
#1053 [21:29] <EssMib_7102> all
#1054 [21:29] <EssMib_7102> is not my conex
#1055 [21:29] <EssMib_7102> this happen since 1.3
#1056 [21:29] <EssMib_7102> and i can play any other game fine
#1057 [21:29] <krazyk1d> if i have any more problems i will go to u
#1058 [21:29] <Wug> EssMib_7102: can you try s.nerd.nu and see if that one has issues
#1059 [21:30] <Lukechlo> Krazyk1d: thank you !
#1060 [21:30] <krazyk1d> bye
#1061 [21:30] <EssMib_7102> ok
#1062 [21:30] <Wug> cheezenuggets: I'm updating teamviewer
#1063 [21:30] <Wug> mine was out of date, maybe that's why it wasnt working
#1064 [21:31] <Wug> though that doesn't seem to be fixing it
#1065 [21:31] <Wug> though that doesn't seem to be fixing it
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#1067 [21:32] <EssMib_7102> ya i have lag...i dont get it
#1068 [21:32] <EssMib_7102> look, since i join
#1069 [21:32] <EssMib_7102> just now i hear my steps sound
#1070 [21:32] <EssMib_7102> and my text
#1071 [21:32] <Wug> EssMib_7102: do you know what kind of network card you have
#1072 [21:32] <EssMib_7102> is not the server, its my client, this is since 1.3
#1073 [21:32] <EssMib_7102> mmm how i know?
#1074 [21:33] <cheezenuggets> wug - try now.
#1075 [21:33] <Wug> cheezenuggets: its working now
#1076 [21:33] <Wug> whatever you did fixed it
#1077 [21:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Man
#1078 [21:33] <cheezenuggets> great
#1079 [21:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Mollstam just created a lot of drama. :c
#1080 [21:33] <CrusaderDeleters> I wished he never hidden the Classic Link
#1081 [21:34] <EssMib_7102> i have the entire day looking how to fix this
#1082 [21:34] <EssMib_7102> but seems impossible
#1083 [21:35] <EssMib_7102> im just wondering how will take the 1.4 and see if it fix everything
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#1085 [21:36] <Lukechlo> krazyk1d: it worked; thanks! Lukechlo
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#1088 [21:37] <EssMib_7102> i really need to fix this....
#1089 [21:37] <EssMib_7102> i dont get how im the only one with this issue
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#1091 [21:42] <EssMib_7102> i need help D:
#1092 [21:44] <EssMib_7102> ...
#1093 [21:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Hello
#1094 [21:44] <CrusaderDeleters> I heard someone had a problem
#1095 [21:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Wait, what happened, EssMib_7102?
#1096 [21:45] <EssMib_7102> My client dont work fine since 1.3
#1097 [21:45] <EssMib_7102> im having huge lag in every server
#1098 [21:45] <EssMib_7102> and is not my conexion
#1099 [21:45] <EssMib_7102> cause i can play any game with no lag
#1100 [21:45] <CrusaderDeleters> What is a "Conexion"?
#1101 [21:46] <EssMib_7102> conection
#1102 [21:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh
#1103 [21:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Connection
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#1105 [21:46] <EssMib_7102> ya
#1106 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> And by "Any game", could you specify which games?
#1107 [21:47] <EssMib_7102> league of legends, dofus, GunZ, s4 league, etc....
#1108 [21:47] <EssMib_7102> with no lag
#1109 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Hrm
#1110 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> could be the server itself
#1111 [21:47] <EssMib_7102> also i has no lag at 1.2.5
#1112 [21:47] <EssMib_7102> no cause i have lag in every server
#1113 [21:48] <EssMib_7102> also i have lag in my own server
#1114 [21:48] <EssMib_7102> and my players are having fun with no lag
#1115 [21:48] <CrusaderDeleters> ComputerStats?
#1116 [21:48] <Yerg> Does it lag in single player?
#1117 [21:49] <EssMib_7102> its just me, i tryed updating java, drivers and deleted .minecraft and force updated, tryed with spout
#1118 [21:49] <EssMib_7102> no, single work fine
#1119 [21:49] <Yerg> What security software do you run?
#1120 [21:49] <EssMib_7102> i has microsoft security, but i uninstalled it today
#1121 [21:49] <Yerg> Is that it?
#1122 [21:50] <EssMib_7102> ya, the only one
#1123 [21:50] <CrusaderDeleters> MSE shouldn't be a problem
#1124 [21:50] <EssMib_7102> i will explain exactly what happen
#1125 [21:50] <Yerg> What operating system are you running? What version of java do you have installed?
#1126 [21:51] <EssMib_7102> looks like i send information pretty well cause i read in my console the texts from me exactly when i send them
#1127 [21:51] <EssMib_7102> but it take like 1 minute or more to show in my screen
#1128 [21:51] <EssMib_7102> also i dont hear the sound of my steps, with the same delay of the text
#1129 [21:52] <EssMib_7102> like i walk above rock and then above grass but i hear my steps on rock while im standing in grass
#1130 [21:56] <EssMib_7102> looks like theres no way for fix this....im gonna be forced to wait till 1.4 and see if mojang fix this
#1131 [21:56] <EssMib_7102> cause i was fine at 1.2.5
#1132 [21:56] <EssMib_7102> and now this...
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#1134 [21:57] <CrusaderDeleters> EssMib_7102: speedtest.net
#1135 [21:57] <CrusaderDeleters> or .com
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#1137 [22:02] <EssMib_7102> i have a very low speed in both, but still is weird cause my upload speed is more slow but im able to read my texts in my console just when i send them
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#1139 [22:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Ess: That's because the text is sent to the server, then sent back to the client if approved.
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#1142 [22:04] <EssMib_7102> well, then what im supposed to do? league of legends always was more laggy than Minecraft about connection and i can play it fine
#1143 [22:04] <EssMib_7102> im downloading tuneup and see what can i do
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#1145 [22:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Download MalwareByte's anti-malware software.
#1146 [22:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Check for any possible viruses and other malware
#1147 [22:05] <CrusaderDeleters> It could be a cause of any minecraft related lagg.
#1148 [22:06] <EssMib_7102> mmm ok
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#1156 [22:21] <Wug> Yerg: I think he might have had the atheros problem
#1157 [22:22] <Wug> but im not sure
#1158 [22:22] <Yerg> That issue's still around?
#1159 [22:22] <Wug> if he did have it, he'd be the first ive seen in a long time
#1160 [22:22] <Wug> cheesenuggets had a weird mac parental control issue
#1161 [22:23] <Wug> because macs are retarded
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#1163 [22:23] <Yerg> From what he's describing, it almost sounded like 1.3 bets.
#1164 [22:23] <Yerg> Er beta
#1165 [22:24] <Yerg> And pfft at macs
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#1167 [22:25] * Wug mumbles something about znc
#1167 [22:25] * Wug prods Yerg
#1167 [22:25] * Yerg idly kicks Wug
#1167 [22:25] * Scott throws Wug into the aggressive dog kennel after smearing peanut butter on him.
#1167 [22:25] * Wug sails through the Wugspace
#1167 [22:26] <Wug> Scott: eew
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#1169 [22:26] <Yerg> No love for the Wug
#1170 [22:27] <TyReed> has anyone had problems with downloading minecraft
#1171 [22:27] <Yerg> Yes. Hundreds
#1172 [22:27] <Yerg> If not thousands
#1173 [22:27] <TyReed> any ideas on how to download it
#1174 [22:28] <Yerg> Describe your problem?
#1175 [22:28] <TyReed> i have turned off firewalls, download new java...
#1176 [22:28] * Me4502|away is now known as Me4502
#1177 [22:28] <TyReed> it says it is lownloading and goes to the page to sign in and fails everytime
#1178 [22:28] <mickster04> so far so good
#1179 [22:28] <Yerg> Are you having issues getting the client, or are you stuck at downloading packages in the client?
#1180 [22:29] <Yerg> Fails how?
#1181 [22:29] <TyReed> wait a minute... first let me tell you I HAVE NO IDEA about minecraft.. I am trying to get it working for my son lol
#1182 [22:29] <TyReed> what do you mean client?
#1183 [22:30] <Wug> the client is the login windows
#1184 [22:30] <TyReed> and heck cant find a phone number NO WHERES for tech support
#1185 [22:30] <Wug> window*
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#1187 [22:30] <Yerg> The client for minecraft is at http://www.minecraft.net/download
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#1189 [22:31] <TyReed> yes for windows
#1190 [22:31] <Yerg> And what happens when you run it?
#1191 [22:31] <mickster04> so when you log in what does it do?
#1192 [22:31] <TyReed> minecraft launcher is where it keeps taking me to login
#1193 [22:32] <Yerg> And did you log in with a premium account?
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#1195 [22:32] <TyReed> yes he has a premium acct
#1196 [22:32] <mickster04> what's the username
#1197 [22:32] <TyReed> it tells me login failed
#1198 [22:33] <TyReed> tyreed
#1199 [22:33] <mickster04> !paid TyReed
#1200 [22:33] <Yerg> Login failed means the username/password is being entered wrong
#1201 [22:33] <mickster04> TyReed: then you are possibly using the wrong password
#1202 [22:33] <Yerg> Try resetting it.
#1203 [22:33] <mickster04> TyReed: can you play on the website?
#1204 [22:33] <TyReed> not sure about that
#1205 [22:34] <TyReed> i tried reseting password as i forgot it but it isnt reseting
#1206 [22:34] <Yerg> http://minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1207 [22:34] <Yerg> Try it again
#1208 [22:34] <TyReed> ok going to try and reset again
#1209 [22:36] <Wug> you are checking your email and following the reset instructions there right?
#1210 [22:37] * Yerg heads off to grab foodinings.
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#1211 [22:38] <EssMib_6528> nevermind looks like is impossible to fix
#1212 [22:38] <EssMib_6528> i used tuneup and malwarebytes
#1213 [22:38] <EssMib_6528> still the same
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#1215 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> :c
#1216 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Sorry Ess.
#1217 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> I tried, but I wish I knew more about the problem.
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#1219 [22:40] <EssMib_6528> its ok tyvm...i think i will just cross fingers and wait till Mojang fix this...
#1220 [22:40] <EssMib_6528> cause right now is impossible for me play minecraft
#1221 [22:41] <stickmenz> Anyone here use Survival Games?
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#1226 [22:53] <TyReed> OMG.... Thank you sooooo much!!!! yall were so much more helpful then mojang website.
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#1228 [22:54] <TyReed> turn to find out my dear son has been typing in the wrong password..... lmao I cant wait for morning to mess with him about it.
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#1230 [22:55] <Smanly> TyReed: Yeah, beat him up.
#1231 [22:55] <tcw> my demo won't start why?
#1232 [22:55] * Kanegasi is now known as Kane{work}
#1233 [22:56] <tcw> hello
#1234 [22:56] <TyReed> oh he will pay for this crap, i have been trying to figure this darn thing out for days, i even reset his computer back to first day out of the box... he will be rubbing my feet for along time lol
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#1241 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#1242 [23:10] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest Snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w30d/minecraft.jar
#1243 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> ??~ snapshot|Latest Snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w38a/minecraft.jar
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#1245 [23:19] <Denizen> So
#1246 [23:19] <Denizen> I have no idea how to use 7zip to install mods on windows 7.
#1247 [23:19] <Denizen> I know how to do it on XP, but when I use that method
#1248 [23:19] <Denizen> it says "unsupported archive"
#1249 [23:21] <Smanly> Erm, what are you trying to do exactly?
#1250 [23:21] <Denizen> Install optifine, to be exact.
#1251 [23:21] <Smanly> Use Magiclauncher :D
#1252 [23:22] <Denizen> I select all the mod files, click "Add to archive", select minecraft.jar
#1253 [23:22] <Denizen> also
#1254 [23:22] <Denizen> I'll see what that is
#1255 [23:22] <Denizen> fancy.,
#1256 [23:22] <Denizen> thanks.
#1257 [23:23] <Smanly> wat
#1258 [23:23] <Denizen> wat
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#1264 [23:54] <frostbitblue> I need some help
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#1267 [23:58] <mib_yef8ow> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 9/20/12 11:55 PM - Minecraft Version: 1.3.2 - Operating System: Windows 7 (x86) versio
#1268 [23:58] <frostbitblue> i had to reinstall my comp. now when I play minecraft it freezes
#1269 [23:58] <mib_yef8ow> help me : (
#1270 [23:59] <frostbitblue> did anyone see what i wrote