#1 [00:00] <itzmjauz> Furdea: Had that too, but that was due to the open-source ubuntu drivers which failed to install ( halfway - crash )
#2 [00:00] <itzmjauz> Furdea: Also , more colors.
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#4 [00:01] <Furdea> http://imgur.com/QsErv
#5 [00:01] <Furdea> screen
#6 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Yup. Go to options. Turn off Anaglyph 3d
#7 [00:01] <Furdea> btw, it did not appear upside down...dunno why imgur flipped it
#8 [00:02] <Furdea> ok sec will try
#9 [00:02] <ShaRose> btw for reference yes it's literally serving up 12k unique mandelbrots a second
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#11 [00:04] <Comguy> I recently got around to digging around in my backup files, and I found some of my old Minecraft worlds from back when Minecraft was still in Alpha. I wanted to check them out, so I copied one of them (World4) into my 1.3.2 Minecraft "saves" folder and started up Minecraft. The problem begins here. When I click on the single player option, I can't find the world I just copied. It seems that Minecraft won't read the old save fi
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#13 [00:04] <Comguy> *current "Anvil" format.
#14 [00:05] <itzmjauz> Super-alpha mode *on*
#15 [00:05] <Furdea> yeah, that seemed to fix it
#16 [00:05] <Furdea> thanks guys
#17 [00:06] <Andrio> No problem :)
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#24 [00:24] <Comguy> Nothing? xP
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#36 [00:54] <epickrmb> does eney one know how to hack and not crach air blocks in to the game
#37 [00:57] <Smanly> wat
#38 [00:57] <epickrmb> does eney one know how to hack and not crach air blocks in to the game geze
#39 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
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#41 [00:57] <epickrmb> ...
#42 [00:57] <Smanly> epickrmb: Yes repeat the same thing again
#43 [00:58] <epickrmb> ok
#44 [00:58] <epickrmb> does eney one know how to hack and not crach air blocks in to the game
#45 [00:58] <Smanly> Oh
#46 [00:58] <Smanly> Ok now I get it
#47 [00:58] <Smanly> GreyVulpine: He want to know if eney one know how to hack and not crach air blocks in to the game
#48 [00:58] <epickrmb> yes i wont to see waht you can do whif air blocks...
#49 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> ?
#50 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> Still doesn't make any sense to me.
#51 [00:58] <Smanly> XD
#52 [00:59] * epickrmb gl
#52 [00:59] * epickrmb is ICR incolde html
#52 [00:59] <epickrmb> or not
#53 [00:59] <Smanly> English, please
#54 [00:59] <epickrmb> does ICR incolde html
#55 [00:59] <epickrmb> or not
#56 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> Let's say.. "yes."
#57 [01:00] <epickrmb> bacause not one is helping me whif air blocks
#58 [01:00] <epickrmb> ok
#59 [01:00] <Smanly> What air blocks?
#60 [01:01] <Smanly> Air block are not blocks
#61 [01:01] <Smanly> They are air
#62 [01:01] <epickrmb> ya i know
#63 [01:01] <Smanly> ok
#64 [01:01] <Smanly> kool
#65 [01:01] <Smanly> Whats the question?
#66 [01:01] <epickrmb> but tkenly the wiki just likes saying that
#67 [01:01] <epickrmb> weredly
#68 [01:01] <Smanly> ya
#69 [01:01] <Smanly> Cause it is a block
#70 [01:01] <epickrmb> how DO? o get air in my inftory
#71 [01:01] <Smanly> You cant
#72 [01:01] <epickrmb> in minecraft
#73 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> You don't
#74 [01:02] <epickrmb> by useing extrun porgarms
#75 [01:02] <Smanly> You cant place air or break it
#76 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> You get air blocks by destroying the block that is in the place of it
#77 [01:02] <epickrmb> NOT IN NONMODED MINECRAFT
#78 [01:02] <Smanly> WOAH CAPS
#79 [01:02] <epickrmb> ya woops
#80 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> NOW IT'S A PARTY!
#81 [01:02] <epickrmb> i didn't see i hit teh caps buttin
#82 [01:02] <Smanly> Happens all the time
#83 [01:03] <epickrmb> and i need to loke at my keybord i sayed ten not the
#84 [01:03] <Smanly> But, what are you trying to do? (with the aire blocks I mean)
#85 [01:03] <epickrmb> get ride of water glich the game
#86 [01:03] <epickrmb> get sand not to fall on me
#87 [01:03] <Smanly> Which is?
#88 [01:03] <epickrmb> AND not useing block 64
#89 [01:03] <Smanly> epickrmb: Place signs under sand
#90 [01:04] <epickrmb> lol nope
#91 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#92 [01:04] <epickrmb> you can do that eney way
#93 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Signs will block sand from falling
#94 [01:04] <epickrmb> whif out air blocks
#95 [01:04] <epickrmb> duz
#96 [01:04] <epickrmb> i wont to cahge my minecraft name how do i do that
#97 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> You cannot
#98 [01:05] <epickrmb> i have epickroblox_m
#99 [01:05] <epickrmb> i wont it as epickminecraft
#100 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> Register a new nickname and pay for premium under that
#101 [01:05] <epickrmb> i HAte roblox now
#102 [01:05] <epickrmb> ... ya so
#103 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> You cannot change your current nickname.
#104 [01:05] <epickrmb> my dada wont let me get a new acont
#105 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> Too bad.
#106 [01:05] <Smanly> he sucks
#107 [01:05] <epickrmb> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ true
#108 [01:06] <epickrmb> so ya
#109 [01:06] <epickrmb> s
#110 [01:06] <epickrmb> wut
#111 [01:07] <epickrmb> i wonder wut is for DINNNER
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#113 [01:07] <epickrmb> wut is IRC
#114 [01:07] <epickrmb> eney way
#115 [01:07] <epickrmb> ]/game
#116 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> !wiki irc
#117 [01:08] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
#118 [01:08] <GreyBot> Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is a protocol for real-time Internet text messaging (chat) or synchronous conferencing. It is mainly designed for group communication in discussion forums, called channels, but also allows one-to-one communication via private message as well as chat and data transfer, including file sharing.
#119 [01:08] <epickrmb> o ok
#120 [01:08] <epickrmb> how do you file share?
#121 [01:08] <epickrmb> in IRC eney way
#122 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> !wiki dcc
#123 [01:08] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCC
#124 [01:08] <GreyBot> DCC may refer to:
#125 [01:08] <epickrmb> O_o DCC
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#127 [01:09] <epickrmb> it's loading
#128 [01:09] <epickrmb> !wiki wut
#129 [01:09] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LOL_WUT_IRL.jpg
#130 [01:09] <epickrmb> O_o
#131 [01:10] <epickrmb> greybot lol is a bot
#132 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> No really?
#133 [01:10] <epickrmb> ya do !wiki someing it will find it
#134 [01:10] <epickrmb> lol
#135 [01:10] <Smanly> Hes isnt
#136 [01:11] <epickrmb> so
#137 [01:11] <epickrmb> wach
#138 [01:11] <Smanly> He just types really fast
#139 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> !wiki beaches
#140 [01:11] <Smanly> GreyVulpine is GreyBot
#141 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Nope. Not a bot
#142 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> !wiki minecraft
#143 [01:11] <epickrmb> O_o grey the nonbot
#144 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Not working for me
#145 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> !wiki you all suck
#146 [01:12] <epickrmb> then waht the heke was that about the bot
#147 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> I don't know what you're talking about.
#148 [01:12] <epickrmb> !wiki bot
#149 [01:12] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot
#150 [01:12] <GreyBot> Internet bots, also known as web robots, WWW robots or simply bots, are software applications that run automated tasks over the Internet. Typically, bots perform tasks that are both simple and structurally repetitive, at a much higher rate than would be possible for a human alone. The largest use of bots is in web spidering, in which an automated script fetches,
#151 [01:12] <GreyBot> analyzes and files information from web servers. Bots may also be implemented where a response speed faster than that of humans is required (e.g., video gaming bots and auction-site robots) or less commonly in situations where the emulation of human activity is required, for example chat bots. Recently bots have been used for search advertising, such as Google AdSense.
#152 [01:12] <epickrmb> wow
#153 [01:12] <epickrmb> i don't get it
#154 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> I don't either
#155 [01:12] <epickrmb> why is it like that for me
#156 [01:13] <epickrmb> did you try !wiki bot
#157 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> !wiki bot
#158 [01:13] <epickrmb> i stell don't get it
#159 [01:13] <epickrmb> !google google
#160 [01:13] <Smanly> GreyBot: hI
#161 [01:13] <epickrmb> O-o well google don't work
#162 [01:13] <epickrmb> and smanly stop fakeing
#163 [01:14] <epickrmb> and wut about my air thing
#164 [01:14] <Smanly> What?
#165 [01:14] <epickrmb> ...
#166 [01:14] <epickrmb> no one here no's how to get air in to minecraft
#167 [01:14] <epickrmb> in your infortory
#168 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#169 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Complete mystery
#170 [01:14] <epickrmb> NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
#171 [01:15] <epickrmb> hehe'
#172 [01:15] <epickrmb> thhehehe
#173 [01:15] <epickrmb> ill jsut do rnadom stuff
#174 [01:15] <Smanly> epickrmb
#175 [01:15] <epickrmb> wadu
#176 [01:15] <Smanly> wat r u doin
#177 [01:15] <Smanly> epickrmb
#178 [01:15] <Smanly> sthap
#179 [01:15] <epickrmb> wth
#180 [01:15] <epickrmb> wath
#181 [01:15] <epickrmb> wath
#182 [01:15] <epickrmb> !wiki stuff
#183 [01:15] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuff
#184 [01:15] <GreyBot> A colloquialism whose very generic scope implies imprecise word usage, stuff may refer to items, things, or matter. Stuff may also refer to:
#185 [01:16] <epickrmb> !wiki GreyBot
#186 [01:16] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_Greyboy
#187 [01:16] <GreyBot> DJ Greyboy (a.k.a. Andreas Stevens) is an acid jazz DJ from San Diego, California now Residing in Long Beach, California. Back in the day he was the partner of Rob Dyrdek in Crime on the Turn Tables. His style of music includes hip hop, soul, funk, experimental, and acid jazz rare grooves. Greyboy has tracks on numerous compilations. His tracks generally do not
#188 [01:16] <GreyBot> heavily alter his base material. He is co-founder and namesake of The Greyboy Allstars. In 2009 Greyboy founded his own record label "Soundlock Recordings" as well as a turntable band called "Warchurch" members include Delmos Wade, DJ Truly Odd, Erick Coomes, Tycoon, Mike Long and Opie Ortiz. 2010 he released a co-produced album with Delmos Wade titled "From The Ground Up".
#189 [01:16] <epickrmb> O_o
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#194 [01:23] <epickrmb> well eney one home
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#197 [01:24] <zkxs> Yes, there are folks here. Just ask your question.
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#199 [01:26] <Rawhide> This is probably an odd question, however I have recently switched to linux and am trying to open minecraft on it.. I am getting a few errors. If anyone understands this it would be very helpful. http://pastebin.com/A6sBYadc
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#201 [01:27] <Rawhide> All I can gather is that it has something to do with resolution
#202 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> ubuntu?
#203 [01:27] <Rawhide> Yes sir
#204 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Update lwjgl.
#205 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> Go to lwjgl.org, look for the download section. Grab the latest lwjgl build.
#206 [01:28] <Rawhide> I'll try that quick
#207 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> In it, you'll find a jar and a natives folder. Replace files in your ~/.minecraft/bin and ~/.minecraft/bin/natives folders
#208 [01:30] <Rawhide> Okay. Sorry.. but I have no clue how to find .minecraft on linux
#209 [01:30] <zkxs> ~/.minecraft
#210 [01:30] <zkxs> ^ That is a valid path
#211 [01:30] <GreyVulpine> The .minecraft folder is in your ~/, or home folder.
#212 [01:30] <Rawhide> Ah! so it is!
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#215 [01:31] <epickrmb> !wiki help
#216 [01:31] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help!_%28album%29
#217 [01:31] <GreyBot> Help! is the title of the fifth British and tenth North American album by The Beatles, and the soundtrack from their film of the same name. Produced by George Martin for EMI's Parlophone Records, it contains fourteen songs in its original British form, of which seven appeared in the film. These songs took up the first side of the vinyl album and included the singles
#218 [01:31] <GreyBot> "Help!" and "Ticket to Ride". The second side contained seven other releases including one of the most-covered songs ever written, "Yesterday".
#219 [01:31] <BigSteveJohnson> How do I unmerge my account?
#220 [01:31] * andrewkm|away is now known as andrewkm
#221 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> BigSteveJohnson - You cannot.
#222 [01:31] <BigSteveJohnson> I wish I had been warned.
#223 [01:31] <BigSteveJohnson> Thx though
#224 [01:32] <BigSteveJohnson> I'll be buying another copy of Minecraft and not merging it.
#225 [01:32] <epickrmb> lol wut
#226 [01:32] <epickrmb> eney way the caht does not sport HTML end of story
#227 [01:33] <BigSteveJohnson> I'd rather just type in my User name than my entire email address to sign in.
#228 [01:33] <epickrmb> wut
#229 [01:33] <epickrmb> the Setname commad does noting
#230 [01:33] <epickrmb> to bad...
#231 [01:33] <Rawhide> Because I am so amazing with ubuntu.. (sarcasm) I have managed to open the .minecraft/bin in terminal.. but can't actually find the folder location
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#233 [01:33] <zkxs> Doesn't the launcher remember the last username?
#234 [01:33] * epickrmb is now known as nick
#235 [01:34] <nick> i have ubntu
#236 [01:34] <nick> wut
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#238 [01:34] <Rawhide> I need to find .minecraft
#239 [01:34] <Rawhide> how to locate
#240 [01:34] <Rawhide> :P
#241 [01:34] * nick is now known as Guest17585
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#243 [01:34] <zkxs> Rawhide: Don't use the terminal. Just paste the path into Nautilus or whatever file browser your version uses
#244 [01:34] <Guest17585> nick nu\
#245 [01:34] <BigSteveJohnson> Yes it does zkxs but i don't want it to be my email address
#246 [01:35] <Guest17585> NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU nick
#247 [01:35] <zkxs> BigSteveJohnson: How come? Other players can't see it, if that is what you're worried about. It is just for logging in.
#248 [01:35] <zkxs> GreyVulpine: I haven't noticed the lwjgl problem on my Ubuntu machine. Is it an issue with Unity?
#249 [01:35] <zkxs> GreyVulpine: I haven't noticed the lwjgl problem on my Ubuntu machine. Is it an issue with Unity?
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#251 [01:35] <BigSteveJohnson> What are the advantages of merging my account? Can I change my game name?
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#253 [01:36] <epickrmb> now lets try it agen
#254 [01:36] <epickrmb> hi
#255 [01:36] <epickrmb> nope
#256 [01:36] <epickrmb> nick nu
#257 [01:37] <BigSteveJohnson> What are the advantages of merging my account? Can I change my game name? If I can't what's the point of merging?
#258 [01:37] <epickrmb> wath is merging
#259 [01:37] <epickrmb> eney way in minecraft
#260 [01:37] <BigSteveJohnson> it sux as far as i can tell
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#262 [01:37] <epickrmb> ok so wath if i asked the wiki bot
#263 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Merging allows you to use mojang's centralized account system. So far, it only consists of one other game, "scrolls"
#264 [01:38] <epickrmb> never mind grey is better than the bot
#265 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> It also allows you to change your email address that's associated with your account, which a normal account wouldn't not allow you to do
#266 [01:38] <BigSteveJohnson> i only have Minecraft so it's no good for me. there should be a way to unmerge
#267 [01:39] <epickrmb> so how do i do this or is this hacking?
#268 [01:39] <epickrmb> i don't wont to do hacking...
#269 [01:39] <epickrmb> online
#270 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> There is no way to unmerge, since Mojang's planning on using this new account system for all their upcoming games.
#271 [01:39] <epickrmb> du
#272 [01:39] <Rawhide> Thank you guys
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#275 [01:39] <epickrmb> i wonder wath hapens if a ask the bot to die
#276 [01:39] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#277 [01:39] <epickrmb> hmmm
#278 [01:40] <epickrmb> but how
#279 [01:40] <epickrmb> all i know about is !wiki
#280 [01:40] <epickrmb> !wiki !wiki
#281 [01:40] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
#282 [01:40] <GreyBot> A wiki (i/ˈwɪkiː/ WIK-ee) is a website which allows its users to add, modify, or delete its content via a web browser usually using a simplified markup language or a rich-text editor. Wikis are powered by wiki software. Most are created collaboratively.
#283 [01:40] <BigSteveJohnson> since i merged i could not sign in because i had too many login attempts with my username instead of my email address. how long till i can play?
#284 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> BigSteveJohnson - Usually the timeout's about 20-30 minutes
#285 [01:40] <BigSteveJohnson> i don't want to play offline
#286 [01:40] <BigSteveJohnson> omfg
#287 [01:40] <epickrmb> !wiki omfg
#288 [01:41] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Omfg_rank_ten_guy
#289 [01:41] <GreyBot> "Lol say whut?"
#290 [01:41] <epickrmb> waths that
#291 [01:41] <epickrmb> o nvm greybot
#292 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> It prevents people from brute-forcing an account password.
#293 [01:41] <epickrmb> is sayibng stuff
#294 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> epickrmb - Please stop spamming greybot's command.
#295 [01:41] <epickrmb> !wiki termaln
#296 [01:41] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Terman
#297 [01:41] <GreyBot> Frederick Emmons Terman (June 7, 1900 in English, Indiana – December 19, 1982) was an American academic. He is widely credited (together with William Shockley) with being the father of Silicon Valley.
#298 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> !part
#299 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> !part
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#301 [01:41] <epickrmb> greybot is not helping me...
#302 [01:41] <epickrmb> to bad
#303 [01:42] <epickrmb> !wiki minecraft
#304 [01:42] <epickrmb> !part
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#306 [01:42] <epickrmb> wuts that
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#308 [01:43] <rootz> lol
#309 [01:43] <rootz> woops
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#311 [01:43] <rootz> ugh i got to rejoin
#312 [01:43] <rootz> ugh i got to rejoin
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#315 [01:44] <epickrmb> ok ok
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#317 [01:44] <rootz> -_-
#318 [01:44] <Orc> What are you trying to do?
#319 [01:44] <rootz> get the nick to be root
#320 [01:44] <rootz> not rootz
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#322 [01:44] <rootz> but it's being dum
#323 [01:45] <Orc> Root may be taken.
#324 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> It isn't.
#325 [01:45] <rootz> ya so
#326 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> Use /nick Root
#327 [01:45] <rootz> i did it did noteing
#328 [01:45] <rootz> ya
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#330 [01:47] <rootz> well i like root becaus it rmdies me of my linux
#331 [01:47] <rootz> now all i have left of linux is a GNOME table
#332 [01:48] <rootz> tablet
#333 [01:48] <rootz> ...
#334 [01:48] <rootz> by
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#350 [02:26] <Wurg> damnit vox
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#352 [02:26] <Wurg> try to undo that
#353 [02:26] <Wurg> nobody needs help with anything? a little peace is always nice
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#354 [02:32] <Elystus> >_>
#355 [02:33] <Andrio> Hi Elystus
#356 [02:33] <Elystus> Hello :)
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#358 [02:38] <Wurg> hello AlphaBlend
#359 [02:38] <AlphaBlend> hi
#360 [02:38] <Wurg> I saw your issue in #minecraft
#361 [02:38] <AlphaBlend> ok
#362 [02:38] <AlphaBlend> Yes, I'm not sure why it does this
#363 [02:38] <Wurg> do you know how to run minecraft manually, from the command prompt
#364 [02:39] <AlphaBlend> i've had this issue for months
#365 [02:39] <AlphaBlend> yes
#366 [02:39] <Wurg> It's probably because its running out of ram
#367 [02:39] <Wurg> try running it with about 400mb of ram and see if it performs better
#368 [02:39] <Wurg> weird restrictions about 32 bit systems cause weird problems
#369 [02:39] <AlphaBlend> well if i look at F3, I don't think it takes up the full amount of RAM
#370 [02:40] <Wurg> can you try it anyway
#371 [02:40] <Wurg> it turns out running it with 1GB of ram doesnt do it any favors
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#373 [02:40] <AlphaBlend> hmm
#374 [02:40] <Wurg> at least, not on 32 bit systems
#375 [02:41] <Wurg> Java overhead hits the memory ceiling, which can cause all manner of crashes
#376 [02:41] <AlphaBlend> wow
#377 [02:41] <AlphaBlend> i actually haven't really memorized java command line parameters
#378 [02:42] <AlphaBlend> so like
#379 [02:42] <AlphaBlend> max size of 400m?
#380 [02:42] <Wurg> yes
#381 [02:42] <Wurg> the argument for that is -Xmx400m
#382 [02:42] <AlphaBlend> java -Xms256m -Xmn512m would work fine?
#383 [02:42] <AlphaBlend> oh
#384 [02:43] <AlphaBlend> ahh x, not n
#385 [02:43] <Wurg> xmn is minimum heap size, which is more or less unnecessary
#386 [02:43] <Wurg> no sense fixing that, let it shrink as much as it wants
#387 [02:43] <Wurg> xms is initial heap size. also unnecessary since it will grow if it needs more
#388 [02:44] <Wurg> it can under some circumstances improve performance, if you happen to know exactly how much ram a program will need
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#390 [02:48] <AlphaBlend> F3 doesn't show the total memory size as set by -Xmx400m, it shows 989MB
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#394 [02:58] <Wurg> AlphaBlend: Java likes to lie about its memory usage
#395 [02:59] <Wurg> is it working better?
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#397 [02:59] <uncovery> hi all. my mincraft freezes for 1/2 second every 30 seconds. I have plenty of memory and processor free, any idea how to debug this?
#398 [02:59] <Wurg> uncovery: screencap of F3 graphs please. label the lagspike
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#400 [03:06] <Wurg> uncovery: Stick around, and wait for another helper
#401 [03:06] <uncovery> ok thanks
#402 [03:06] <Wurg> I need to go to bed
#403 [03:06] <Wurg> before I go though, what version of minecraft are you using
#404 [03:07] <uncovery> latest stable (non-snapshot)
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#406 [03:08] <AlphaBlend> so far so good, Wurg
#407 [03:08] <Wurg> If youre using 64 bit windows, verify that you have 64 bit java
#408 [03:08] <uncovery> ok will do thanks
#409 [03:08] <Wurg> AlphaBlend: java is weird isnt it
#410 [03:08] <Wurg> you can make a batch file that launches it for you, or you can make a shortcut to java.exe with the arguments you use to launch minecraft
#411 [03:09] <uncovery> yes its javaw.exe not javaw.exe*32 in the process window
#412 [03:09] <Wurg> uncovery: no idea then
#413 [03:09] <uncovery> thaks
#414 [03:09] <Lutzee> Whats the problem?
#415 [03:09] <AlphaBlend> Wurg: Yes it is. Developing on top of CraftBukkit is even weirder at times.. I'm a minecraft plugin dev :D
#416 [03:09] <Wurg> periodic lagspikes, latest version, 64 bit java
#417 [03:09] <Wurg> Lutzee: &
#418 [03:09] <Wurg> ^*
#419 [03:09] <uncovery> AlphaBlend: what plugins do you make?
#420 [03:09] <Lutzee> Assign less RAM
#421 [03:09] <AlphaBlend> maybe it's notch's code that hasn't been replaced by the new team yet
#422 [03:09] <AlphaBlend> XD
#423 [03:10] <AlphaBlend> well, I'm actually part of a development team of 3 others. I haven't made my own plugins, but the shop system I wrote was suggested that I make into a plugin
#424 [03:10] <Lutzee> Chances are the garbage collector is hitting in too late and it's swapping memory to disk
#425 [03:10] <Lutzee> If the GC kicks in earlier then the game tends to run smoother
#426 [03:11] <Wurg> Lutzee: he also says his pc is up for the task of minecraft
#427 [03:11] <Wurg> I didn't verify this but I'd assume that would mean 4GB of ram or more
#428 [03:11] <Lutzee> That does not matter...
#429 [03:11] <Wurg> anyway bed. night all
#430 [03:12] <Wurg> minecraft wont swap unless it has to
#431 [03:12] <Lutzee> My laptop has 8GB of ram, doesn't mean it runs minecraft well
#432 [03:12] <AlphaBlend> night!
#433 [03:12] <Wurg> and the GC runs frequently, typically once a second, sometimes more
#434 [03:13] <Wurg> you can watch it with the F3 diagnostics. memory will steadily increase, then drop by a big chunk
#435 [03:13] <Lutzee> But the GC only starts when the VM is very close to sturating it's RAM allocation
#436 [03:13] <Wurg> (the big drop is the GC running)
#437 [03:15] <Wurg> Lutzee: if your laptop doesn't run minecraft well, its probably GPU limited (laptops tend to be). You can verify this by looking at the F3 pie graph, from which you can compute based on the percentage of time spent rendering the maximum theoretical FPS your gpu can draw minecraft at
#438 [03:16] <Wurg> less than about 40 would tend to indicate gpu limiting
#439 [03:17] <Wurg> you'd need a monster cpu to approach 40 fps on such a limited system; on a laptop with a slower cpu, you'd probably be able to expect 15-20fps max
#440 [03:17] <Lutzee> I still find it runs better with less RAM assigned though, and i get 40-50
#441 [03:17] <Wurg> we should make a tool for submitting pie graphs to helpers
#442 [03:18] <Wurg> they are most useful for diagnosing bottlenecks
#443 [03:18] <Wurg> anyway bed. ngiht
#444 [03:18] <Wurg> anyway bed. ngiht
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#446 [03:18] <Wurg> anyway bed. ngiht
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#455 [03:33] <thaNexScarra> hi
#456 [03:34] <thaNexScarra> anyone know if ice works the same way as water when you're trying to build a farm?
#457 [03:34] <Andrio> I doubt it
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#459 [03:36] <Lutzee> heh No, it doesn't xD
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#461 [03:37] <thaNexScarra> then would it be wise to grow crops in the snow biodome?
#462 [03:37] <thaNexScarra> I'm unsure if the snow biodome is a mod, or has Minecraft offically added a snow biodome
#463 [03:38] <thaNexScarra> Haven't played in a while =/
#464 [03:38] <Lutzee> If you cover water up then it won't freeze in ice biomes
#465 [03:39] <thaNexScarra> Can you cover it with glass?
#466 [03:40] <Lutzee> Yes, any block
#467 [03:41] <thaNexScarra> Thanks! =)
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#498 [05:40] <mib_xcj4xj> Could I have help with plugins?
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#501 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> try #bukkit
#502 [05:41] <mib_xcj4xj> Ty
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#506 [06:10] <Guest25804> hello i bought minecraft in my one account called darkJ3ZA99 and it said it would update but it didn't
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#508 [06:12] <Guest25804> i have the order numbers that came with the purchase
#509 [06:12] <Andrio|Away> Have you tried a force update?
#510 [06:13] <Guest25804> yes i have but anytime i login it says you dont have premium
#511 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> !paid darkJ3ZA99
#512 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> I'd first start off with confirming that a purchase has been made through your financial institution. Call their customer support and verify a transaction has occured on their end
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#515 [06:17] <Guest25804> ok but is there any way i could just give you the order numbers that came with the purchase
#516 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> We are a community-run unofficial support channel, made up of volunteers. We are not Mojang. None of us work for Mojang, and we do not get paid by them.
#517 [06:18] <Guest25804> and if not could you just give me the contact number
#518 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> Mojang has no support number.
#519 [06:18] <Guest25804> oh ok do you know the contact number for them
#520 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> Please read: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#521 [06:18] <Guest25804> oh wo ur typping faster then ok well bye
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#583 [11:18] <Dubstein> Hey, can someone help?
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#585 [11:21] <FLHerne> Dubstein: What with? :-)
#586 [11:21] <Dubstein> Recently I accidentally migrated my Minecraft account, I was just checking it out, now I have to log in with the Mojang account, Which I don't know. The Account was originally handed down to me from my friend, which he got off his friend.... So on, so on.
#587 [11:22] <Dubstein> Now I'm stuck with logging in with the Mojang account. (E-Mail address)
#588 [11:24] <Dubstein> I don't know how to log back in now.
#589 [11:24] <Dubstein> Well, I do. I just need the Mojang account now.
#590 [11:25] <Dubstein> I contacted the E-mail address, no reply yet.
#591 [11:25] <FLHerne> Dubstein: Sorry, I don't know much about the account system :-(
#592 [11:25] <FLHerne> Someone else might though...
#593 [11:26] <Dubstein> Damn, Like who?
#594 [11:26] <FLHerne> Dubstein: Any of the other 157 people in this channel, for a start
#595 [11:26] <Dubstein> lol
#596 [11:26] <FLHerne> Everyone seems to be AFK though :P
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#598 [11:27] <Dubstein> I see. Hmm
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#601 [11:29] <Dubstein> I was also using the browser Minecraft recently because the account was still logged in.
#602 [11:30] <Guest75767> What is the bukkit irc?
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#604 [11:31] <Andrio> Guest75767, #bukkit
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#606 [11:33] <Guest75767> Can anyone please help me with a server issue?
#607 [11:33] <Selbram> Guest75767: is it bukkit related?
#608 [11:33] <Guest75767> Yes
#609 [11:34] <Selbram> Please /join #bukkit
#610 [11:35] <Dubstein> Recently I accidentally migrated my Minecraft account, I was just checking it out, now I have to log in with the Mojang account, Which I don't know. The Account was originally handed down to me from my friend, which he got off his friend.... So on, so on.
#611 [11:38] <theunpaidBill> Minor game tech question. Sandstone has blast resistance 4. Sandstone slabs have a 30. I can stack 2 slabs to get a full block of blast resistance 30 sandstone?
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#632 [12:13] <ThomQ> Hi all!
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#644 [12:40] <klimbim> hi guys; i dont know why, but suddenly minecraft doesnt work with mac os mountain lion; I've got really big laggs and it sucks! If I start minecraft with win 7-32 bit, giving java 1280mb ram, it crashes every minute saying run out of memory… that really sucks! I dont't know why minecraft has so many problems, maybe its because its programmed in java, its really a total mess; you have any idea what to do?
#645 [12:40] <Calinou> java isn't a total mess; learn to set it up
#646 [12:41] <Calinou> download java 6, java 7 doesn't work sometimes, get the 64 bit version if your OS is 64 bit
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#648 [12:42] <klimbim> I tested it with java 6, java 7 64 bit each, there's no difference; and it worked before… I did not do any update or the like...
#649 [12:42] <theunpaidBill> You're running Mac OS, but starting minecraft in Win 7?
#650 [12:42] <klimbim> yes I tried both...
#651 [12:43] <klimbim> how should i learn to set up java if minecraft needs more than 1280mb, which I can reserver on my win 7- 32bit...
#652 [12:43] <theunpaidBill> Same install directory with both OS's?
#653 [12:43] <klimbim> which i can't I wanted to say...
#654 [12:44] <klimbim> same install directory with mac and win? your a pro heh ;) :P
#655 [12:44] <theunpaidBill> I run it under linux 64 bit and give it less RAM and it runs fine
#656 [12:44] <Calinou> inb4 arch
#657 [12:44] <theunpaidBill> Is something else sucking up the RAM?
#658 [12:45] <Denizen> yes, windows
#659 [12:45] <Calinou> lol
#660 [12:45] <theunpaidBill> Well that shouldn't be the case when he runs Mac OS
#661 [12:45] <klimbim> yep your right Denizen ;) no there are no other programs running
#662 [12:46] <theunpaidBill> That doesn't mean something isn't hogging the memory
#663 [12:46] <Denizen> windows hogs it even if you're not running it
#664 [12:46] <Denizen> its existence
#665 [12:46] <Denizen> is taxing
#666 [12:46] <theunpaidBill> I had a background process yesterday that had ballooned to 2 GB of RAM
#667 [12:46] <theunpaidBill> When it should be 48K
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#669 [12:47] <Calinou> Xorg doesn't count as a background process, sorry
#670 [12:47] <theunpaidBill> But in linux I just killed it and everything was fine
#671 [12:47] <Calinou> :>
#672 [12:47] <klimbim> and I'm a little bit confused, because the taskmanager says, 1500mb free and if i try to reserve 1400mb for minecraft it won't start… maybe windows needs some security reserves...
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#674 [12:47] <Calinou> klimbim: don't reserve enormous amounts of RAM
#675 [12:47] <theunpaidBill> It doesn't need that much RAM
#676 [12:47] <Calinou> stick to something like 800
#677 [12:47] <theunpaidBill> Swapping is bad
#678 [12:47] <klimbim> yeah well why do I get the runt out of memory error message then?
#679 [12:47] <klimbim> yeah well why do I get the runt out of memory error message then?
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#681 [12:48] <theunpaidBill> Calinou: It was knotify4 that ballooned for some reason
#682 [12:48] <Calinou> haha, kde
#683 [12:48] <Calinou> kde, the only DE written in java. :P
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#685 [12:48] <theunpaidBill> It's a new distro version, I expect issues.
#686 [12:49] <theunpaidBill> Give minecraft a small minimum and a largish maximum for minecraft klimbim
#687 [12:49] <theunpaidBill> Like 128MB minimum, then you can see how much it wants to grow to.
#688 [12:50] <theunpaidBill> Unless you're running some big texture packs it shouldn't go much over 800MB-1GB
#689 [12:50] <klimbim> like -Xmx128M -Xms1280 ?
#690 [12:50] <klimbim> hmm no I've the stadard design… grr
#691 [12:50] <theunpaidBill> s= start IIRC
#692 [12:50] <Calinou> I give similar minimum/maximum personally... slightly better performance
#693 [12:50] <theunpaidBill> This is troubleshooting Cal
#694 [12:51] <klimbim> klimbim: yeah well why do I get the runt out of memory error message then?
#695 [12:51] <Calinou> java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar minecraft.jar
#696 [12:51] <Calinou> there, put this in a .bat/.sh
#697 [12:51] <klimbim> Calinou: -.- I will get an run out of memory message
#698 [12:51] <klimbim> I tried 1280mb...
#699 [12:51] <Calinou> I will get != I got :P
#700 [12:51] <klimbim> yeah..
#701 [12:52] <theunpaidBill> JMO, but I would redownload it. It sounds like something is borked.
#702 [12:52] <klimbim> hmm that was my idea, too; but the website is down by now :)
#703 [12:53] <Lord_Ralex> just force update it
#704 [12:53] <Calinou> lol'd at the "website is down" thingie
#705 [12:54] <klimbim> why did notch programme this with java… grrr
#706 [12:55] <Calinou> tell him to compile the game for windows, mac, linux, *BSD to have similar compatibility, and don't forget to tell him to learn C++ and recode the whole thing
#707 [12:55] <theunpaidBill> JMO, I'm glad he did. We have a MP server, and we use linux, Mac, and Windows clients without an issue.
#708 [12:56] <Calinou> want a minecraft in c++? play minetest :P
#709 [12:56] <klimbim> it wouldn't have been less successful if the just coded it for windows..
#710 [12:58] <theunpaidBill> I can say I wouldn't have bought it
#711 [12:58] <klimbim> he… my keyboard, hell
#712 [12:58] <theunpaidBill> So yes it would have been less successful
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#751 [14:11] <Marc_IRL> zomg mindcraft question! Need halp!1
#752 [14:12] <Boreeas> lol marc just pirate it
#753 [14:12] <Marc_IRL> oh ok
#754 [14:12] <Marc_IRL> Anyone have any idea about this error message? "Failed to launch / Fatal error occured (4): Permission denied: connect"
#755 [14:13] <Marc_IRL> It may or may not have something to do with administrative access on the computer.
#756 [14:13] <Boreeas> I'd guess that the firewall blocks Java's access to the internet for non-privilieged users
#757 [14:14] <Marc_IRL> Seems legit
#758 [14:15] <Marc_IRL> Thanks!
#759 [14:15] <Boreeas> Didit work?
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#761 [14:17] <Marc_IRL> No idea, customer email
#762 [14:17] <Marc_IRL> I hadn't seen that error before
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#764 [14:18] <Selbram> I do love seeing you in here asking questions. :)
#765 [14:19] <Marc_IRL> Lol, yeah, I dunno tech support type stuff, but I'm the accounts and billing guru.
#766 [14:19] <Marc_IRL> When we're caught up, I'd like to look more into tech support type stuff. Having the Minecraft bug tracker will really help. Looking forward to hopefully working with the devs a bit.
#767 [14:19] <Selbram> There are days were that would be fantastic to have in here... though I would imagine painful for you.
#768 [14:19] <Selbram> Being the billing guru and all...
#769 [14:20] <Marc_IRL> What, to have someone with accounts access in here?
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#771 [14:20] <Selbram> yeah, so many questions about, I bought minecraft but it says I'm not premium
#772 [14:20] <Marc_IRL> Every time I've helped someone in here, it's taken at least 15 minutes, whereas I can answer emails anywhere from 10 seconds to 2 minutes.
#773 [14:20] <Selbram> exactly :)
#774 [14:20] <Marc_IRL> If you get that question, just send them to http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#775 [14:21] <DiskDaemon> Fatal error (4) issues are almost always caused by the users antivirus program prevenging minecraft from downloading the update files that it needs
#776 [14:21] <TTimoNN> Guys, I need help. I'm filming like this video of minecraft but I need to have someone laying in bed for like 1 minute without it turning day so he auto gets kicked out of the bed
#777 [14:21] <TTimoNN> is there something to stop that from happening?
#778 [14:21] <Selbram> We do. Some people just don't want to read. Had one guy demanding a phone number to the billing department.
#779 [14:21] <Marc_IRL> LOL. Department.
#780 [14:21] <Selbram> :)
#781 [14:21] <Marc_IRL> We don't have departments. I don't think people realize how small the company is.
#782 [14:22] <DiskDaemon> Some good details about that are at http://minecraftirc.net/thread-35.html
#783 [14:22] <Selbram> They thing we are official support :)
#784 [14:22] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: The guy was saying that it works on the user account with administrative access, but not the basic account on his computer that his son uses.
#785 [14:23] <Selbram> Probably need to run minecraft with elevated privs?
#786 [14:24] <DiskDaemon> However, I agree with the firewall thing in regards to permission denied: connect.
#787 [14:25] <Boreeas> DiskDeamon, aka He Who Knows All
#788 [14:26] <TTimoNN> nobody?
#789 [14:26] <NinjaKirby> DiskDaemon, aka Daemon '5.25" Floppy' Diskette
#790 [14:26] <DiskDaemon> One person has solved the permission denied connect thing by using the .jar instead of the .exe, which helps to point the way towards a workaround. Figuring out the cause would be tricky though http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1396347-125-131-login-help-plz-self-sloved/
#791 [14:27] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Oh hang on - was this permission denied: connect issue where it shows HTML tags in the news section, instead of the news feed? If so then that's definately the IPv6 issue that people have been having
#792 [14:27] <Selbram> I am trying to research some UAC stuff to see if executables can be whitelisted or excluded...
#793 [14:28] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: A solution to which is given at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#794 [14:28] <Marc_IRL> My son go to http://www.minecraft.net/, selects "Play Minecraft in browser", clicks on "Please Log in", types UserID/PSW, the system propose an update, we select Yes, now the system returns the following error message "Failed to launch / Fatal error occured (4): Permission denied: connect" It happens every time regardless if the PC has been restarted or not and with a good internet connection. If my son do the same from my PC acco
#795 [14:28] <DiskDaemon> I say that because this person has "atal Error (4): Permission denied: connect" with the same HTML content issue http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1307457-error-4-cant-log-in-tried-everything-please-help/
#796 [14:29] <Marc_IRL> It sounds to be like a firewall permissions issue for non-privileged users. At least, I like it because it's concise ^_^
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#798 [14:30] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: There are a couple of causes for that. I have to race off to be somewhere soon though
#799 [14:30] <Selbram> Can he run it "as administrator"? And does that help?
#800 [14:30] <Marc_IRL> Yes, mentioned that above
#801 [14:31] <Boreeas> Marc_IRL: Out of curiosity, from when is that mail? :P
#802 [14:31] <Selbram> I mean, from the basic account, right click on the minecraft.exe and "Run as Administrator".
#803 [14:31] <Marc_IRL> Sweden
#804 [14:32] <Selbram> He may have to type in an admin password to get it to start, but it might be possible for it to work in that configuration.
#805 [14:32] <Marc_IRL> hm, ok
#806 [14:32] <Selbram> I would test, but I do not have a virtual machine handy to abuse this particular problem.
#807 [14:33] <ShaRose> that reminds me, I should set those up
#808 [14:33] <DiskDaemon> I would remove the .minecraft folder because doing things there from admin permissions can cause ongoing havoc later on, but I must fly
#809 [14:34] <Selbram> Lies! I have one... just a moment while I create a basic account and play with minecraft
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#811 [14:39] <Marc_IRL> I wouldn't worry about solving the problem for now, I sent a reply like ten minutes ago :p
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#813 [14:40] <pyrosshade> Hey, does anyone happen to have minecraft.jar for linux?
#814 [14:40] <pyrosshade> minecraft.net is down
#815 [14:40] <Selbram> ouch it is
#816 [14:41] <ShaRose> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/minecraft.jar pyrosshade
#817 [14:42] <pyrosshade> Thanks :D
#818 [14:42] <ShaRose> yay VMs :D http://i.imgur.com/QDjYL.png
#819 [14:42] <Selbram> lol
#820 [14:43] <Selbram> VirtualPC?
#821 [14:43] <ShaRose> hyper-v
#822 [14:43] <Selbram> right, the microsoft virtual system
#823 [14:43] <Selbram> nice and free
#824 [14:44] <ShaRose> comes with it too
#825 [14:44] <ShaRose> no downloading :D
#826 [14:44] <Selbram> lol
#827 [14:44] <Selbram> I use a combinations for virtualbox, vmware and the hyper-v stuff
#828 [14:44] <ShaRose> I used to use vmware for everything
#829 [14:45] <ShaRose> but uuuugh such a big download
#830 [14:45] <ShaRose> but uuuugh such a big download
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#832 [14:45] <Selbram> it is
#833 [14:46] <ShaRose> I should probably grab some linux distros too
#834 [14:46] <ShaRose> since I have the HD space to spare now
#835 [14:46] <Selbram> :)
#836 [14:47] <ShaRose> 1.26gb striped volume for VM harddrives :D
#837 [14:47] <Selbram> should that be tb
#838 [14:47] <Selbram> LOL:2:47:20 PM - mollstam: Aha, the deploy system broke minecraft.net, me fix.
#839 [14:48] <ShaRose> oh, and yes, it should be tb
#840 [14:48] <ShaRose> not used to havin more than a tb volume :(
#841 [14:48] <ShaRose> not used to havin more than a tb volume :(
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#849 [14:59] <Darleco> I've been having some problems with Minecrafts worlds. It's the 2nd world I create and I got the same problem as the first. After playing it for some days, when I try to re-open it, I got a message like "Downloading Terrain" that takes a while to load and then, when it finally opens, the world is all crazy, not breaking blocks, full of big holes in the ground
#850 [14:59] <Darleco> and the render distant tiny and taking forever
#851 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> Tried reinstalling minecraft ?
#852 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> using any mods?
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#855 [15:09] <Darleco> no mods
#856 [15:09] <Darleco> already reinstalled it like 5 times
#857 [15:09] <Darleco> seems like it's "bugging" the world, not the game
#858 [15:09] <Darleco> if I start a fresh game, it will go smooth until the same thing happens to it
#859 [15:10] <Selbram> how are you exiting minecraft?
#860 [15:10] <Darleco> I already tried changing the level.dat from another world
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#862 [15:10] <Darleco> esc > save and exit
#863 [15:11] <Darleco> Quit to title* (whatever)
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#865 [15:15] <Selbram> World corruption on a single player game is not normal at all.
#866 [15:15] <Selbram> Are you running backup software on your machine?
#867 [15:18] <Darleco> no
#868 [15:18] <Darleco> Just recently bought it
#869 [15:18] <Darleco> so I have nothing new or mods or edits
#870 [15:18] <Darleco> nothing
#871 [15:18] <Darleco> just the game
#872 [15:19] <Selbram> Just recently bought what? The game or your computer?
#873 [15:21] <Selbram> So what I am trying to figure out is if some backup software or antivirus is locking files on your machine somehow and causing world corruption to happen. It is a speculation and likely not the cause of your problems.
#874 [15:21] <Darleco> I see, I mean bought the game
#875 [15:21] <Darleco> Maybe it's cause my pc is VERY OLD!
#876 [15:22] <LilLucy> What operating system are you running?
#877 [15:22] <LilLucy> And any anti viruses you might be running?
#878 [15:22] <Darleco> running on Windows XP x86
#879 [15:22] <Darleco> Nod32 anti-viruses
#880 [15:22] <LilLucy> Try running minecraft as administrator, add minecraft to nod32's exception list
#881 [15:23] <LilLucy> Also if firewall is turned on, add it to the exception list as well
#882 [15:23] <LilLucy> See if that helps
#883 [15:23] <osuka_> wat happened?
#884 [15:23] <Selbram> his single player worlds are getting corrupted
#885 [15:23] <osuka_> checked hdd space?
#886 [15:23] <osuka_> free space*
#887 [15:23] <Darleco> over 40 gb
#888 [15:24] <Darleco> I just fell from one corner of the map cuz it didn't render...
#889 [15:25] <Selbram> how much memory does your computer have and how fast is the cpu
#890 [15:25] <Selbram> it is possible that it simply can't keep up
#891 [15:26] <LilLucy> Selbram try this
#892 [15:26] <LilLucy> ?? win/dxdiag
#893 [15:26] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#894 [15:26] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#895 [15:26] <Selbram> I forget about dxdiag every darn time :)
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#897 [15:27] <Darleco> maybe won't be of any help since it's in portuguese =X
#898 [15:28] <Selbram> I can use google translate...
#899 [15:28] <LilLucy> Oh I meant Darleco should do the dxdiag
#900 [15:29] <Selbram> right, and he says it will be in portuguese, and I said no problem
#901 [15:29] <LilLucy> But yeah. If it's in portuguese.. It hink we might still be able to get some info from it
#902 [15:29] <LilLucy> Without the need of translation xP
#903 [15:29] <Darleco> just a sec
#904 [15:29] <Darleco> just a sec
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#906 [15:29] <Darleco> you need only the System info?
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#908 [15:29] <Touanou77> hi all
#909 [15:30] <Selbram> All information
#910 [15:30] <Selbram> Got my translate window primed and ready
#911 [15:30] <Touanou77> please who can help me ? i got a problème to running minecraft
#912 [15:30] <Selbram> Touanou77: What sort of problem?
#913 [15:30] <Darleco> Got to save it in English, no translation will be neede ;)
#914 [15:31] <Selbram> nice
#915 [15:31] <Touanou77> i buy minecraft yesterday
#916 [15:31] <Touanou77> and when i run it, i take my login and passeword
#917 [15:31] <osuka_> LilLucy: I'm a native speaker of Portuguese
#918 [15:31] <osuka_> maybe I can be of help
#919 [15:31] <Touanou77> after 2 or 3 second of dowlod i got a black screen
#920 [15:31] <Selbram> osuka_: won't be necesary for the dxdiag
#921 [15:31] <LilLucy> osuka_ seems no need hehe. But thanks
#922 [15:32] <LilLucy> Touanou77 have you got java installed
#923 [15:32] <Touanou77> yes
#924 [15:32] <osuka_> lol you're welcome
#925 [15:32] <Touanou77> latest version
#926 [15:32] <Selbram> Touanou77: Update your video drivers
#927 [15:32] <Darleco> http://pastebin.com/DGzL6ez9
#928 [15:33] <Touanou77> how i do this ?
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#931 [15:33] <Darleco> as I said, It's and very OLD computer
#932 [15:33] <Touanou77> i don't know if it important but my PC is vista
#933 [15:33] <Darleco> but it was running it for the past 2-3 weeks
#934 [15:33] <Darleco> until it's corrupted
#935 [15:33] <LilLucy> Does minecraft even run fairly smoothly on that pc Darleco?
#936 [15:34] <Selbram> The specs look fine... I just can't think of a reason why the worlds would get corrupted.
#937 [15:35] <LilLucy> yeah
#938 [15:35] <Selbram> Touanou77: Do you know what kind of a video card you have?
#939 [15:35] <LilLucy> But the card..
#940 [15:35] <LilLucy> Im just curious though :p
#941 [15:35] <Selbram> :)
#942 [15:35] <LilLucy> Anyways specs as Selbram said seem fine
#943 [15:35] <LilLucy> Darleco when you reinstalled
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#945 [15:35] <Darleco> well...
#946 [15:35] <LilLucy> Did you actually delete the .minecraft folder?
#947 [15:36] <Touanou77> @Selbram no sorry ...
#948 [15:36] <Darleco> no, I didn't
#949 [15:36] <LilLucy> Ok Darleco
#950 [15:36] <Darleco> just copy the saves and delete all?
#951 [15:36] <LilLucy> ?? win/.minecraft
#952 [15:36] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#953 [15:36] <LilLucy> Yeah copy the saves folder just incase your worlds will still work
#954 [15:36] <LilLucy> And then delete the entire .minecraft folder after
#955 [15:36] <Selbram> ?? win/dxdiag >> Touanou77
#956 [15:36] <LilLucy> And then try redownload with the latest minecraft.exe
#957 [15:37] <Selbram> bah
#958 [15:37] <Selbram> Touanou77: please do this
#959 [15:37] <Darleco> and, Yes. It runs in the mininum confs and normal render distance cuz of the java x86 ( just answering the old question :) )
#960 [15:37] <Selbram> ?? win/dxdiag
#961 [15:37] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#962 [15:37] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#963 [15:37] <Darleco> alright LilLucy, I'll try that...
#964 [15:38] <LilLucy> Hope it works for you Darleco
#965 [15:38] <Darleco> yeah, so do I. Right now it's such a waste of money =(
#966 [15:38] <Touanou77> @selbram what information do you want ?
#967 [15:38] <LilLucy> Dont worry we'll get it fixed Im sure ^^
#968 [15:38] <Selbram> Touanou77: All
#969 [15:38] <LilLucy> Touanou77, copy paste all of it to pastebin.com
#970 [15:40] <Touanou77> how i can tell to you everything ( sorry i'm french so i don't understand everything)
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#975 [15:43] <Touanou77> ???
#976 [15:43] <Touanou77> @selbram how i telle to you everything ?
#977 [15:44] <Selbram> Touanou77: click the "Save All Information" button
#978 [15:44] <Selbram> Touanou77: Then copy and paste that to http://pastebin.com and send the link here
#979 [15:46] <Touanou77> http://pastebin.com/R5SKcEsK
#980 [15:48] <Darleco> LilLucy, didn't work =(
#981 [15:48] <Selbram> Touanou77: ?? gpu/amd
#982 [15:48] <Selbram> ?? gpu/amd
#983 [15:48] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
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#986 [15:51] <Touanou77> i dowload the detecter
#987 [15:51] <LilLucy> Darleco hmm =\
#988 [15:51] <LilLucy> Lemme see if Morrolan or Kealper might know
#989 [15:51] * LilLucy pokes them
#989 [15:52] <LilLucy> Or DopeGhoti ;-;
#990 [15:53] <Touanou77> amd driver autodetect is loading "the best pilote to your graphoque card" it's normal ?
#991 [15:53] <Touanou77> graphique*
#992 [15:54] <Selbram> So it says the best driver is installed.
#993 [15:54] <Selbram> Do you know what version of java you have installed?
#994 [15:55] <Selbram> Windows+R
#995 [15:55] <Selbram> type "cmd" and press enter
#996 [15:55] <Selbram> then type java -v
#997 [15:55] <Selbram> and paste the results
#998 [15:56] <Touanou77> unrecognized option : -v
#999 [15:56] <Touanou77> could not create the java virtual machine
#1000 [15:56] <Selbram> java -version
#1001 [15:56] <Selbram> My apologies
#1002 [15:57] <Touanou77> java version "1.6.0_24"
#1003 [15:58] <Touanou77> java<TM> SE Runtime environment <build 1..0_24-b07>
#1004 [15:58] <Selbram> You could try installing Java 7 from java.com.
#1005 [15:58] <Touanou77> java Hotspot<TM> Client VM <builde 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing>
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#1007 [15:59] <Touanou77> i do instal java 7
#1008 [15:59] <Touanou77> ?
#1009 [16:00] <Selbram> You may need to uninstall java 6.
#1010 [16:01] <Touanou77> jok i unistall java 6 and reinstall java 7
#1011 [16:01] <Selbram> ok
#1012 [16:01] <Darleco> Lillucy could you check if my world is corrupted for you too?
#1013 [16:02] <Darleco> just to check if it's my computer or w/e
#1014 [16:02] <Selbram> Darleco: I could check for you if you needed me to.
#1015 [16:02] <LilLucy> darleco how big is your world
#1016 [16:03] <LilLucy> If its not very big i can try
#1017 [16:03] <LilLucy> ^^
#1018 [16:03] <Darleco> 6 mb
#1019 [16:04] <Darleco> uploading it right now
#1020 [16:04] <Selbram> link me too, I want to see this corruption
#1021 [16:04] <Touanou77> @selbram java 6 is now unistall and i start the install of java7
#1022 [16:04] <Selbram> Touanou77: ok, let me know if it helps
#1023 [16:05] <Touanou77> @selbram java 7 is install now =) what i do now ?
#1024 [16:06] <Selbram> Touanou77: try to start minecraft
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#1026 [16:06] <Darleco> i'll pm you both, LilLucy and Selbram
#1027 [16:06] <LilLucy> Oky
#1028 [16:06] <Selbram> thank you
#1029 [16:06] <Darleco> doen
#1030 [16:06] <Darleco> done*
#1031 [16:06] <Touanou77> @selbram ok i try it but my computer is not the best so wait a minute please ^^
#1032 [16:07] <Selbram> np :)
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#1034 [16:08] <dyzdyz> is there any channel about mocreatures?
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#1037 [16:10] <Selbram> Darleco: wow, chunks are not wanting to load
#1038 [16:10] <LilLucy> Seems like it's definitely corrupt then
#1039 [16:10] <LilLucy> Yeah same thing here
#1040 [16:10] <Touanou77> @selbram it says "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#1041 [16:11] <LilLucy> umm..
#1042 [16:11] <Selbram> Now that is a different error. :)
#1043 [16:12] <dyzdyz> does anyone know how to deal with lag spikes when using mocreatures?
#1044 [16:12] <LilLucy> Darleco have you got another computer at all that you can try minecraft on
#1045 [16:12] <Darleco> yeah, my notebook
#1046 [16:12] <Selbram> Darleco: Yeah, you were parked right next to a chunk that would not load. I went in and out of the game a few times to see if it would load.
#1047 [16:12] <Touanou77> @selbram i listen to you if you can and want help me ^^
#1048 [16:12] <Darleco> no video card but it work
#1049 [16:12] <LilLucy> Ok. So the world doesn't corrupt on that?
#1050 [16:13] <Selbram> Touanou77: If you have any antivirus software running try to disable it and see if you can log in.
#1051 [16:13] <Touanou77> @ok
#1052 [16:13] <Touanou77> @selbram ok i do this
#1053 [16:14] <Darleco> Touanou77 try putting it on Windows Exception
#1054 [16:14] <Darleco> Selbram, the world worked there?
#1055 [16:15] <Selbram> Darleco: No, I had missing chunks.
#1056 [16:17] <Darleco> damn
#1057 [16:17] <Darleco> =(
#1058 [16:17] <Darleco> so my world is lost
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#1060 [16:18] <Touanou77> @selbram every the same probleme ... i put minecraft in exeption for window defender
#1061 [16:19] <Selbram> Touanou77: :( I am at a loss
#1062 [16:19] <Darleco> LilLucy, haven't tried it yet on my NB cuz my sis is using it
#1063 [16:19] <LilLucy> Oky
#1064 [16:19] <LilLucy> Sorry Im not sure what else I can suggest sadly =\
#1065 [16:19] <Darleco> did you tried it there?
#1066 [16:20] <Touanou77> @selbram sorry but i didn't understand ^^'
#1067 [16:20] <Selbram> Touanou77: :) I do not think that I have an answer for you :(
#1068 [16:20] <Selbram> Touanou77: Maybe someone else can help?
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#1071 [16:22] <Marc_IRL> Herp derp. What was the solution for minecraft is damaged, on the newest version of OS X? I'm going to add it to the technical help stuff.
#1072 [16:22] <Touanou77> please when i take my log the game smeay " can't connect to minecraft.net but i need it to dowload the ga
#1073 [16:22] <Touanou77> please when i take my log the game say " can't connect to minecraft.net but i need it to dowload the game
#1074 [16:22] <Marc_IRL> Wait, I already added it!
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#1076 [16:23] <Marc_IRL> well sort of
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#1078 [16:24] <Touanou77> what ?
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#1082 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1083 [16:26] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1084 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Or just right click-> open
#1085 [16:28] <Marc_IRL> Apple are dicks sometimes
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#1088 [16:32] <Darleco> Selbram, any ideas about my problem?
#1089 [16:33] <Darleco> i'll brb.
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#1091 [16:34] <Marc_IRL> I don't have a Mac, so can anyone proofread this?
#1092 [16:34] <Marc_IRL> In System Preferences, select Security & Privacy, then set "Allow applications downloaded from:" to "Anywhere". Click the lock icon that reads "Click the lock to make changes." Start Minecraft.app. Once running, if you'd like, you may reset Gatekeeper to "Mac App Store and identified developers".
#1093 [16:34] <Marc_IRL> Alternatively, you can right-click Minecraft.app and select "Open". You'll be presented with a confirmation dialog. You only have to do this once; afterwards, you'll be able to double-click and run Minecraft.app without the above steps.
#1094 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> I don't have a mac either, but it sounds right
#1095 [16:35] <Selbram> Darleco: I am with LilLucy, not sure what the issue is. Could be just your machine being a pain.
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#1097 [16:36] <Scott> that is accurate
#1098 [16:36] <Scott> </mac-user>
#1099 [16:36] <quencher00> When i purchased Minecraft, i was billed but i didnt end up at the recipt screen or get any email at all. I have no transaction id.
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#1101 [16:36] <Marc_IRL> Are you sure you were billed?
#1102 [16:37] <Marc_IRL> Like, you've checked your bank/paypal
#1103 [16:37] <Touanou77> @seldram
#1104 [16:37] <Touanou77> @sledram are you here
#1105 [16:37] <Touanou77> @seldram are you here
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#1107 [16:37] <Touanou77> fuck ...
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#1110 [16:37] <quencher00> yes, because i got a call from my credit agency asking me what MInecraft was becasue i rarely use a credit card
#1111 [16:37] <Touanou77> who can help me
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#1113 [16:38] <Marc_IRL> If your credit card company blocked it, and then let it go through, the account was probably not upgraded
#1114 [16:38] <quencher00> Ok, how can i get it to premium then?
#1115 [16:39] <Marc_IRL> I would 1. confirm that your credit card company actually let it go through, and if they did, 2. get a transaction ID from Paypal or Moneybookers
#1116 [16:39] <Marc_IRL> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#1117 [16:39] <Selbram> Touanou77: I am here but I have do not know how to assist any further :(
#1118 [16:40] <quencher00> ok, if i get a transaction id, then how should i give it to you guys?
#1119 [16:42] <Marc_IRL> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1120 [16:43] <quencher00> ok. thanks
#1121 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Hey Marc_IRL, haven't played MinecraftPE, but thought this could supplement the player's experience: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/852638998/impulse-game-controller-and-key-finder-pocket-acce
#1122 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Neat little keyfob/bluetooth gamepad for phones.
#1123 [16:47] <Darleco> My worlds are all getting corrupted, can anyone help me?!
#1124 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Darleco - How many worlds have been corrupted? Are you using any mods?
#1125 [16:48] <Marc_IRL> Hrm. I haven't really seen controllers for iOS before. Do you have to jailbreak for it to work?
#1126 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so. They're also releasing an SDK for developers as well
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#1130 [16:51] <Guest84785> ok so i tried to download the new snapshot and i failed so i placed the original minecraft.jar file back but for some reason everytime i log in it blackscreens me.how do i fix it?
#1131 [16:51] <Darleco> GreyVulpine, No mods. 2 worlds.
#1132 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Guest84785 - Using the launcher, before logging in, go to the options button. Hit Force Update, then log in as normal
#1133 [16:52] <Guest84785> ok so i tried to download the new snapshot and i failed so i placed the original minecraft.jar file back but for some reason everytime i log in it blackscreens me.how do i fix it?
#1134 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Guest84785 - Using the launcher, before logging in, go to the options button. Hit Force Update, then log in as normal
#1135 [16:52] <Guest84785> thanks
#1136 [16:53] <Guest84785> where is the options button
#1137 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Above where you usually hit the login button
#1138 [16:54] <Guest84785> thanks
#1139 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Darleco - Beyond keeping a consistant backup, world corruption issues can be caused by any number of reasons, and can't be predicted in advance.
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#1141 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Darleco - Do you notice any sort of consistant behavior that happens before your world is corrupted? Any specific actions you may have taken that could have inadvertently caused this?
#1142 [16:57] <Darleco> GreyVulpine - No. Suddenly breaking blocks got a bit laggy. so I reboot the pc and got back in. That's it, all corrupted
#1143 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Then sadly, there's not much I can offer you here. Move on, create a new world, start from scratch, and try to keep backups in a seperate folder.
#1144 [17:00] <Darleco> oh
#1145 [17:00] <Darleco> that just sucks!
#1146 [17:00] <Darleco> but anyway, thanks for your help =/
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#1162 [17:51] <asdfc> i try to make a book but its not letting me how can i do it?
#1163 [17:51] <DiskDaemon> What are you doing to make a book?
#1164 [17:51] <asdfc> i use the paper 3 papers but it wont make it
#1165 [17:52] <DiskDaemon> How are you placing them?
#1166 [17:52] <asdfc> down a row in the middle in the crafting table
#1167 [17:52] <DiskDaemon> You need leather to make a book now http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Book
#1168 [17:53] <asdfc> =O ty very much
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#1171 [18:01] <rootz> waths teh mc caht chanle agen
#1172 [18:02] <rootz> !wiki hello
#1173 [18:02] <DiskDaemon> We speak English in this channel thanks.
#1174 [18:02] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello
#1175 [18:02] <GreyBot> Hello is a salutation or greeting in the English language. It is attested in writing as early as the 1830s.
#1176 [18:03] <rootz> Hello what is the minecraft chat Chanel.
#1177 [18:03] <rootz> ...
#1178 [18:04] <rootz> nvm clent pepoloe
#1179 [18:04] <rootz> nvm clent pepoloe
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#1182 [18:12] <crazilon> I am trying to run Mine-imator, but when I do it says "Could Not Find DLL, Please extract before running." I already have. What do I do?
#1183 [18:17] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#1184 [18:17] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1185 [18:17] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1188 [18:23] <crazilon> Minemator isn't a mod -_-
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#1190 [18:26] <sonicmario9941> im having trouble getting minecraft to start
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#1192 [18:27] <sonicmario9941> i recently downloaded the snapshot but it failed, so i went back to its current version with the force update tool
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#1194 [18:28] <sonicmario9941> now it wint run
#1195 [18:28] <sonicmario9941> wont*
#1196 [18:28] <DiskDaemon> sonicmario9941: What happens then?
#1197 [18:28] <DiskDaemon> ??> sonicmario9941 win/reinst
#1198 [18:28] <VoxelHead> sonicmario9941: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1199 [18:28] <VoxelHead> sonicmario9941: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1200 [18:28] <VoxelHead> sonicmario9941: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1203 [18:29] <sonicmario9941> okay thanks
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#1206 [18:32] <sonicmario9941> no luck. Just the same error message
#1207 [18:32] <sonicmario9941> no luck. Just the same error message
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#1210 [18:34] <DiskDaemon> What error message? I don't think that you've shared that with us yet
#1211 [18:35] <sonicmario9941> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 9/24/12 5:31 PM - Minecraft Version: 1.3.2 - Operating System: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 - Java Version: 1.7.0_07, Oracle Corporation - Java VM Versio
#1212 [18:35] <DiskDaemon> sonicmario9941: Your graphics card drivers may need to be updated
#1213 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> ??> sonicmario9941 win/dxdiag
#1214 [18:36] <VoxelHead> sonicmario9941: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1215 [18:36] <VoxelHead> sonicmario9941: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1217 [18:38] <Pie_Crust> I don't mean to be rude but Minecraft is a CPU whore.
#1218 [18:38] <Pie_Crust> Is there anything I can do to lower it's CPU ussage?
#1219 [18:39] <Pie_Crust> Anyone?
#1220 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: Do you have multiple graphics chips in your system? COmmonly called switchable graphics
#1221 [18:40] <sonicmario9941> http://pastebin.com/mq7XB9v3
#1222 [18:40] <Pie_Crust> No. Just one GPU, one CPU and two RAM
#1223 [18:40] <Pie_Crust> I don't have anything dual apart from the RAM cards
#1224 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> Let's get some info about your system
#1225 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> ??> Pie_Crust win/dxdiag
#1226 [18:40] <VoxelHead> Pie_Crust: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1227 [18:41] <VoxelHead> Pie_Crust: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1229 [18:44] <Pie_Crust> http://pastebin.com/vZ5yQYzT
#1230 [18:46] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: I'm seeing that you're using version 8 of the graphics drivers. They're up to version 12 now.
#1231 [18:46] <DiskDaemon> ??> Pie_Crust gpu/nvidia
#1232 [18:46] <VoxelHead> Pie_Crust: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#1233 [18:46] <Pie_Crust> I've updated my graphics a week ago =\
#1234 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: Try this driver http://www.nvidia.com/object/win8-win7-winvista-32bit-306.23-whql-driver.html
#1235 [18:47] <sonicmario9941> should i do that
#1236 [18:48] <Pie_Crust> How are you so sure that it's my gpu causing the problem?
#1237 [18:48] <DiskDaemon> sonicmario9941: You have a different problem with different symptoms. Do not take medication to lower your blood pressure if you aren't suffering from high blood pressure
#1238 [18:49] <sonicmario9941> nicely put. okay
#1239 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: See this? ".ca)
#1240 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> [10:44:44] <Pie_Crust> http://pastebin.com/vZ5yQYzT
#1241 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> [10:46:06] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: I'm seeing that you're using version
#1242 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> *barf*
#1243 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> sorry
#1244 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> This here - "Bad video card drivers!"
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#1246 [18:50] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: This here - "Bad video card drivers!"
#1247 [18:50] <Boothk> I need help chasing up a problem with Minecon tickets. My payment didn't go through.
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#1249 [18:50] <DiskDaemon> Boothk: Contact the sellers of those tickets
#1250 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> Boothk: We are not Mojang. We are random people from all around the world. /me waves to you from New Zealand
#1251 [18:51] <Pie_Crust> I don't think that it is the GPU. At the start of the game, I get a stable 18-25 FPS. Later, in the game, my FPS drop down to 4-8 and physical memory to 73%
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#1253 [18:52] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: pardon, you're right.
#1254 [18:52] <DiskDaemon> sonicmario9941: Please apply that advice about graphics cards - it relates to you and your graphics card driver problems
#1255 [18:52] <Boothk> DiskDaemon: I did, I bought through the official website for selling them. But my bank rejected the payment, and I ended up with an order number and no purchase. :|
#1256 [18:53] <Pie_Crust> Did you get charged?
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#1258 [18:53] <DiskDaemon> sonicmario9941: Please wait though until I look through your dxdiag repotr
#1259 [18:53] <DiskDaemon> *report
#1260 [18:54] <DiskDaemon> Boothk: Then contact your bank. They can explain to you why they rejected the payment, right?
#1261 [18:54] <Boothk> DiskDaemon: I know this isn't official, I was hoping you guys would know what to do (common question etc)
#1262 [18:54] <sonicmario9941> so dont get the driver until then?
#1263 [18:54] <Boothk> Pie_Crust: I didn't get charged, bank rejected it
#1264 [18:54] <Pie_Crust> DiskDaemon: Should I still run the NVidia updater?
#1265 [18:54] <DiskDaemon> sonicmario9941: Your computer has only half of the memory that is required by Minecraft.
#1266 [18:54] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: Yes thanks
#1267 [18:55] <sonicmario9941> oh boy.
#1268 [18:55] <Boothk> Diskdaemon: Rang the bank, got an automated service. Told it that the transation was legit. Tried to buy again today but the page froze v.v
#1269 [18:55] <DiskDaemon> sonicmario9941: You might gain some small performance improvement by following all of the steps given at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-5-updated-on-may-24/
#1270 [18:55] <DiskDaemon> sonicmario9941: But realistically, better hardware is the solution for you.
#1271 [18:55] <sonicmario9941> okay, thanks for the assistance
#1272 [18:55] <DiskDaemon> Boothk: Your bank rejected the payment, so you need to deal with them
#1273 [18:56] <Pie_Crust> Wow, sonic's PC has Intel Atom and it has a better performance than my AMD =\
#1274 [18:56] <Boothk> DiskDaemon: I already dealt with them - but they told me I'd need to redo the payment. But I can't because the website won't let me. I was looking more for a way to get Mojang supports attention as a matter of urgency.
#1275 [18:57] <DiskDaemon> Boothk: Sorry, we can't help with that
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#1277 [18:57] <mizzface> hey guys got a question
#1278 [18:57] <Boothk> :<
#1279 [18:57] <Pie_Crust> "Don't ask to ask. Just ask!"
#1280 [18:58] <mizzface> im tryin to play minecraft on my laptop and for some reason it keeps sayin local acess only
#1281 [18:58] <mizzface> ive tried windows resolution and that didnt work
#1282 [18:59] <Boothk> you playing single player or multiplayer?
#1283 [18:59] <mizzface> so i figured since it was leading to playin minecraft you guys could help
#1284 [18:59] <mizzface> i want to play multi i can play single no prob
#1285 [18:59] <mizzface> but for some reason at my new house with this connection i cant connect with my laptop
#1286 [18:59] <mizzface> my home comp connect fine
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#1288 [19:00] <Boothk> if you ask me, i'd say the server is lan only or somewhat. but I'm not support, so..
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#1290 [19:00] <mizzface> .....
#1291 [19:00] <mizzface> umm but i kinda need a resolution
#1292 [19:01] <Pie_Crust> DiskDaemon: I got an error from NVidia. Took a screenshot and uploaded it to dropbox. Here's the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w8nvxtlk6kukdou/New%20map%20of%20bits%20(2).bmp
#1293 [19:02] <mizzface> any one?? i need to change it it so im not local acess only
#1294 [19:03] <Boothk> mizzface: Where does it say local access only? In a windows dialogue box or in the game itself?
#1295 [19:03] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: Wow, for that is the driver that nvidia says is for your machine. You're welcome to go back to the link from the gpu/nvidia factoid and try again
#1296 [19:03] <mizzface> it says it in a windows box
#1297 [19:04] <Boothk> are you running vista?
#1298 [19:04] <mizzface> it wont let me connect at all in game
#1299 [19:04] <mizzface> and yes
#1300 [19:04] <Pie_Crust> Disk, are you sure that it all has to do with the version of my GPU?
#1301 [19:04] <Boothk> mizzface: ok, and you're hosting the server
#1302 [19:04] <Boothk> mizzface: correct?
#1303 [19:04] <mizzface> i went into te regedit and edit what i was told to edit still nothing
#1304 [19:05] <mizzface> no im tryin to join a server
#1305 [19:05] <Boothk> mizzface: wait, what did you change in regedit?
#1306 [19:05] <Pie_Crust> Mizz, 1. You NEVER open regedit without the intructions of your technitian
#1307 [19:05] <Pie_Crust> Much less, edit something.
#1308 [19:06] <mizzface> im not sure exactly what it was but windows resolution was to do that go to microsoft then systems and change something based on my guid
#1309 [19:06] <mizzface> i can look up exactly what i did if you like
#1310 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> mizzface: Do you still get the same problem from a different windows user account on the same computer?
#1311 [19:06] <Pie_Crust> Wait, you have problems CONNECTING to a server. Not viewing your screen. The windows resolution has nothing to do about this.
#1312 [19:06] <mizzface> i only have one user on that laptop
#1313 [19:06] <Boothk> mizzface: yeah, please. regedit is a bad idea if you don't know what you're doing
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#1315 [19:06] <mizzface> i cant connect to the internet period
#1316 [19:07] <Boothk> how are you talking to us now?
#1317 [19:07] <mizzface> only with this connection tho
#1318 [19:07] <Pie_Crust> Try connecting and tell us the error report (or message) it gives
#1319 [19:07] <mizzface> my neighboors house works fine
#1320 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> mizzface: Create a new user on that laptop, and check to see if that new user has the same local access problem
#1321 [19:07] <mizzface> kk give me a min
#1322 [19:07] <Pie_Crust> Or check if the properties on your laptop matches the network properties on your PC.
#1323 [19:08] <mizzface> wait which should i do first new user or the error mesg
#1324 [19:08] <Pie_Crust> Feel free
#1325 [19:08] <mizzface> oh and boothk on my home computer
#1326 [19:08] <Pie_Crust> i would suggest first, trying to connect to your LAN
#1327 [19:08] <Pie_Crust> And then try co-
#1328 [19:08] <Pie_Crust> Wait a sec
#1329 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> mizzface: I think that you've messed up [sanitized] your computer settings. This is why I'm asking you to try it from a new computer user
#1330 [19:09] <Pie_Crust> "i cant connect to the internet period" YOu're talking on the internet
#1331 [19:09] <mizzface> on my laptop
#1332 [19:09] <mizzface> i cant connect
#1333 [19:09] <Pie_Crust> DiskDaemon, gives the same error bullshit.
#1334 [19:09] <mizzface> on my pc i can connect
#1335 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: The has two comptuers
#1336 [19:10] <Pie_Crust> Mizz, do this. NetworkAndSharingCenter>Networks>Rightclick on your network>Properties> Check if it shows the same thing on your PC and on your laptop
#1337 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: If the official drivers from nVidia cannot be installed on your computer, then my hands tend to be tied
#1338 [19:10] <Pie_Crust> =\
#1339 [19:12] <Pie_Crust> Currently, to play MC with the smallest ammount of lag possible on my PC, I kill every process except 4. nvvsvc.exe, winlogon.exe, nvxdsync.exe and csrss.exe.
#1340 [19:12] <Pie_Crust> =\
#1341 [19:13] <mizzface> ok i did the new user demon still no go and im about to do what you asked pie gimmie a sec
#1342 [19:13] <Pie_Crust> Going to try to run MC again.
#1343 [19:15] <Pie_Crust> 19FPS, chunkupdates 22
#1344 [19:15] <Boothk> optifine usually does the trick for me
#1345 [19:15] <Pie_Crust> I'm using optifine
#1346 [19:15] <Boothk> through magiclauncher
#1347 [19:15] <Pie_Crust> Newest version
#1348 [19:15] <Boothk> h
#1349 [19:15] <Boothk> hm
#1350 [19:16] <Pie_Crust> Magiclauncher sucks
#1351 [19:16] <Pie_Crust> Badly
#1352 [19:16] <Boothk> works fine for me
#1353 [19:16] <Boothk> saves me messing with minecraft.jar
#1354 [19:16] <Pie_Crust> Try to install forge and boom. You get millions of error reports.
#1355 [19:16] <Pie_Crust> I'd prefer oldschool.
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#1359 [19:17] <mizzface> ok in the IPv4 spot my desktop says internet and my lap top says local and then my IPv6 says no internet acess and my laptop says local other then that everything is the same even in wireless properties
#1360 [19:18] <Pie_Crust> Compare it with your PC and type the properties of your PC into your laptop's properties
#1361 [19:18] <Pie_Crust> FPS dropping to 17.
#1362 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: MultiMC seems to be getting some good words, in comparison to magiclauncher
#1363 [19:18] <Pie_Crust> 9
#1364 [19:19] <Pie_Crust> 2 And got the out of memory error.
#1365 [19:19] <mizzface> i dont have any spot to type in anything
#1366 [19:19] <Pie_Crust> Mizz, is there an Edit Properties button anywhere?
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#1368 [19:20] <mizzface> under another properties button i can change only the connect using
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#1370 [19:21] <Pie_Crust> Daomon, what I don't understand is, why do I have a stable FPS and after a few minuites, it all drops down to 9FPS then 1-3 and boom, OOM.
#1371 [19:21] <Pie_Crust> Mizz, are you the admin of the laptop?
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#1373 [19:21] <mizzface> yup i also made a new user also admin
#1374 [19:21] <Pie_Crust> Hmm
#1375 [19:21] <Pie_Crust> Do you have a windows 7?
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#1377 [19:22] <mizzface> nope windows vista on the laptop windows seven on the desktop
#1378 [19:22] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: Are you playing 1.2.5 or some older version?
#1379 [19:22] <Pie_Crust> No, 1.3.2
#1380 [19:22] <DiskDaemon> Odd. There was an issue with earlier versions where grass growing would cause bad lag, but that doesn't seem to be the case here
#1381 [19:23] <Pie_Crust> Mizz, I'm using a multiboot. Until my problem isn't solved, I won't restart with vista.
#1382 [19:23] <Pie_Crust> Nope :c
#1383 [19:23] <mizzface> okay
#1384 [19:23] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: What changes does the debug screen show when things slow down? Does the pie chart show that something is taking up more resources, for example?
#1385 [19:23] <mizzface> so ill wait then?
#1386 [19:23] <Pie_Crust> I have the piechart turned off
#1387 [19:23] <Pie_Crust> It's what lagged me badly in earlier versions
#1388 [19:24] <Pie_Crust> I'll restart MC and turn on the pie chart
#1389 [19:25] <mizzface> you know what guys ima give up and just play on the desktop thanks for all the advice I will try agian tomorrow
#1390 [19:25] <Pie_Crust> Right now: [1]gameRenderer at 77%
#1391 [19:26] <mizzface> YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!! youve solved many other problems for me so i still love yall!! have a good night!!
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#1393 [19:26] <Pie_Crust> [1]thick, 83%
#1394 [19:26] <Pie_Crust> Used mem at 43
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#1397 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: When your performance changes, you should see a correlating change to things on the debug screen, which might help to point towards the issue
#1398 [19:27] <Boothk> man do i have a headache
#1399 [19:27] <Pie_Crust> [1]unspecified, 88%, used mem 82% (893MB)
#1400 [19:28] <Pie_Crust> [1]unspecified, 67%, used mem at 56%
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#1402 [19:30] <Pie_Crust> [1]gameRenderer 91%, usedmemory at 100%
#1403 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> That unspecified is bloody big - it's 0.53% on my system
#1404 [19:30] <Pie_Crust> Out of memory
#1405 [19:30] * Boothk tries updating the latest Minecraft on his Acer Aspire one...
#1405 [19:30] <Pie_Crust> I just hit Main Menu and I'm back at the MM
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#1407 [19:31] <Pie_Crust> With the memory at 896 and CPU a 100%
#1408 [19:31] <Pie_Crust> Memory dropped to 580MBs
#1409 [19:31] <Pie_Crust> SPU still at 100
#1410 [19:31] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: I've seen that out of memory issue when people have 32-bit java installed on a 64-bit operating system, but that doesn't seem to be your situation either
#1411 [19:31] <Pie_Crust> I have 32bit java on 32 bit machine
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#1413 [19:32] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: Are you using any custom memory setting when starting the game?
#1414 [19:32] <Pie_Crust> Nope
#1415 [19:32] <Pie_Crust> All default
#1416 [19:33] <Pie_Crust> I have the task manager open right now
#1417 [19:33] <Pie_Crust> CPU is at 100, physical memory at 48%
#1418 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> Well you have me well and truly puzzled
#1419 [19:33] <Pie_Crust> And 42 processes
#1420 [19:33] <Pie_Crust> Processes dropped to 40
#1421 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: My diagnoses at this stage is that your computer hardware isn't capable of running Minecraft, and that better computer hardware is a solution to that
#1422 [19:34] <Pie_Crust> =\
#1423 [19:34] <Pie_Crust> One does not simply get DDR1 nowadays
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#1425 [19:35] <DiskDaemon> Indeed, it's so old nowdays that it's becoming a problem
#1426 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> Pie_Crust: Have you always had similar performance problems on that machine?
#1427 [19:36] <Pie_Crust> What's cheaper? Changing my CPU from the AMD x32 to an Intel x86 and attempt at getting a DDR1 card or a whole new system?
#1428 [19:36] <Pie_Crust> Yes
#1429 [19:36] <Pie_Crust> Especially when I boot with Windows Vista
#1430 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> Unless you're able to test those changes to determine their impact on the game, I'd go with a new system
#1431 [19:37] <Pie_Crust> The biggest problem I had throught this year and last year was overheating and HDD failures.
#1432 [19:37] <Pie_Crust> The thing is trying to find one compatible with my system.
#1433 [19:38] <Boothk> mm, 10 fps on a netbook
#1434 [19:38] <Pie_Crust> I was trying to change the GPU a long time ago but no GPUs are capable of accepting the voltage that my PC outputs.
#1435 [19:39] <Pie_Crust> And I guess this is more CPU related
#1436 [19:39] <DiskDaemon> It seems to be that way. My condolences for you
#1437 [19:39] <Pie_Crust> Well, thanks for the he;p anyways =\
#1438 [19:40] <Pie_Crust> Help*
#1439 [19:40] <Pie_Crust> Cya guys
#1440 [19:40] <Pie_Crust> And before I go, what is the optimal GHz and RAM I should get to smoothly run MC?
#1441 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> We have a stock faq entry for this situation, but it won't help. It might raise a small smile though
#1442 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> ?? minspecs
#1443 [19:40] <VoxelHead> minspecs: There is no software magic that can make your hardware meet the minimum specifications that are required by the game.
#1444 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> http://www.game-requirements.com/index.php?title=Minecraft
#1445 [19:41] <Pie_Crust> Don't tell me Sherlock. But if I'm going to replace components, I need to know atleast the minim- Nvm
#1446 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> Or from Mojang themself - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
#1447 [19:42] <Pie_Crust> "Processor: 2.0 MHz (Single Core)" I have 1GHz and when MC is not running, the CPU ussage drops to 19-21. With MC running, it raises up to 100%
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#1451 [19:44] <Pie_Crust> Anyways, Minecraft will always be recognized as CPU whore in my mind. Cya.
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#1453 [20:01] <CrusaderDeleters> Pie_Crust: "Anyways, Minecraft will always be recognized as CPU whore in my mind. Cya." Java*, and with only 1 mhz, you cannot expect much.
#1454 [20:02] <DiskDaemon> Tab-completion doesn't work on his name now for a certain reason :)
#1455 [20:02] <CrusaderDeleters> He already left.
#1456 [20:02] <CrusaderDeleters> I knew he did, but I just wanted to iterate that anyways.
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#1458 [20:03] <CrusaderDeleters> And actually, I believe it's both Java and Minecraft.
#1459 [20:03] <DiskDaemon> I was thinking about providing an analogy to a 486 computer, but you aren't supposed to provide metaphors or similies to someone who disagees with you
#1460 [20:03] <Dream_Rider> lol a 1ghz processor does nothing anyways.. I wonder how long it took him to get to this chat tbh lol
#1461 [20:04] <DiskDaemon> http://lifehacker.com/5943083/how-to-argue-on-the-internet-without-becoming-a-troll
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#1465 [20:20] <linwood213> I am not able to download minecraft
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#1467 [20:21] <linwood213> to my local system...I disabled my microsoft essentials...
#1468 [20:21] <linwood213> can u pls help to download to my pc...
#1469 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> Are you having trouble downloading the minecraft.exe file?
#1470 [20:22] <linwood213> yes
#1471 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> MSE wouldn't affect that
#1472 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> What is the problem that you are having with downloading it?
#1473 [20:22] <linwood213> I am able to play using the browser link
#1474 [20:23] <linwood213> but not able to download to my local system....my question is is it possible to download to my system..
#1475 [20:23] <linwood213> I am using this link Download Minecraft.exe (270 KB). Place it anywhere you want, then run it.
#1476 [20:24] <linwood213> it just doesent open but it will navigate me to user id and password page where I can paly by using browser
#1477 [20:25] <DiskDaemon> What happens when you try to download the file?
#1478 [20:26] <linwood213> it is taking me to the page where I see the updated versions
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#1480 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> That doesn't seem right. Can you show us a screenshot?
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#1483 [20:27] <linwood213> how do i send the screen shots
#1484 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> Here are instructions on how to take a screenshot. http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#1485 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> Upload to somewhere that lets you upload pictures, such as imgur.com
#1486 [20:30] <linwood213> how will you be able to see the screen shots what i have
#1487 [20:30] <linwood213> how will you be able to see the screen shots what i have
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#1489 [20:32] <DiskDaemon> You put the picture up on the internet, and tell us where you put it!
#1490 [20:32] <DiskDaemon> It's no good, he's gone alrady
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#1494 [20:34] <CrusaderDeleters> DiskDaemon: You should play some tekkit. :D
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#1496 [20:34] <lolcraft24> Ummm I need help with account
#1497 [20:35] <lolcraft24> Can Someone help me ?
#1498 [20:35] <Mushoy> How to be in creative mode
#1499 [20:36] <lolcraft24> or
#1500 [20:36] <lolcraft24> ./gm
#1501 [20:36] <lolcraft24> or
#1502 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> What can we help you with?
#1503 [20:36] <lolcraft24> ./gamemode 1 or 0
#1504 [20:36] <lolcraft24> I need help
#1505 [20:36] <lolcraft24> cause some hacked my account
#1506 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> let me fulfil your needs and desires *waggles eyebrows*
#1507 [20:36] * DiskDaemon bad timing
#1507 [20:37] <Mushoy> I dont Know how to be in creative mode
#1508 [20:37] <lolcraft24> what do you mean
#1509 [20:37] <DiskDaemon> lolcraft24: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1510 [20:37] <lolcraft24> Mushoy Go on chat and type in ./gm or /gamemode (name) 1or 0
#1511 [20:37] <DiskDaemon> Mushoy: Start a new map, and change the gametype to be creative
#1512 [20:37] <DiskDaemon> Mushoy: You can change the gametype from within the game if you have cheats enabled - which you set when creating a new world
#1513 [20:39] <Mushoy> Thanks!!
#1514 [20:39] <Mushoy> Thanks!!!
#1515 [20:42] <lolcraft24> I sended the email
#1516 [20:42] <lolcraft24> but they wont responde to me i bet
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#1518 [20:43] <lolcraft24> who is a member of Mojang
#1519 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> The people who help in this channel are not
#1520 [20:44] <lolcraft24> Who are
#1521 [20:44] <lolcraft24> and i sended the email for hacked account
#1522 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> We occasionally have an accounts person step in, but he's not here as of now
#1523 [20:45] <lolcraft24> oh
#1524 [20:45] <lolcraft24> I also have another problem
#1525 [20:45] <lolcraft24> On my other account
#1526 [20:46] <lolcraft24> When i try to login its says login failed
#1527 [20:46] <DiskDaemon> Does it also say why?
#1528 [20:46] <lolcraft24> No
#1529 [20:47] <lolcraft24> Should i redownload minecraft downloader
#1530 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> Reset your password using the instructions at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#1531 [20:49] <lolcraft24> ok
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#1533 [20:50] <lolcraft24> buz111
#1534 [20:51] <buz111> What's a good cpu for high end games like battle field
#1535 [20:51] <DiskDaemon> http://bf3blog.com/battlefield-3-system-requirements/
#1536 [20:51] * Me4502|away is now known as Me4502
#1537 [20:52] <DiskDaemon> Try to keep it to minecraft help here though, okay?
#1538 [20:53] <Eddie> DiskDaemon nice link
#1539 [20:53] <Eddie> shows up as gibberish to me o.o
#1540 [20:53] <DiskDaemon> Thanks, google gave it to me :)
#1541 [20:54] <buz111> I'm going to be building a pc with a budget of like 750$ so got any cpu names in mind?7
#1542 [20:54] <buz111> and what would be a good motherboard to use for it
#1543 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> buz111: I don't have any system building advice for you
#1544 [20:55] <buz111> Okay
#1545 [20:55] <buz111> umm
#1546 [20:56] <buz111> Whats a good cpu and gpu to run minecraft with max settings and shading mods
#1547 [20:57] <CrusaderDeleters> I use the Nvidia Geforce GTX 560.
#1548 [20:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Good card, can run Minecraft Quite fine.
#1549 [20:58] <PermissionDenied> I'm using integrated graphics still.
#1550 [20:58] <DiskDaemon> I use the AMD Radeon HD6950
#1551 [20:58] <PermissionDenied> Kill me.
#1552 [20:59] <DiskDaemon> I don't have any system building advice though for what could be considered a good cpu and gpu. That tends to depend on other things that a person does with their machine
#1553 [20:59] <buz111> well a gpu prob isn't going to be a problem because i could get a cheap external high end nvidia for like 99$
#1554 [20:59] <buz111> Okay
#1555 [20:59] <buz111> disk daemon, how to i place a block in minecraft...?
#1556 [21:00] <DiskDaemon> buz111: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner's_guide
#1557 [21:01] <buz111> Minecraft wiki is in spanish
#1558 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> Left-hand side of the screen, at the bottom are the language choices
#1559 [21:02] <buz111> I'm using firefox
#1560 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> well done - use google chrome for bonus points
#1561 [21:03] <buz111> Google banned me
#1562 [21:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Google banned you...?
#1563 [21:04] <buz111> Yup
#1564 [21:04] <Eddie> I use the Intel HD 4000 and I am proud :D
#1565 [21:06] <buz111> So this is minecraft related help?
#1566 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> That's what it says on the tin
#1567 [21:06] <buz111> Wheres herobrine
#1568 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> Nevermore
#1569 [21:07] <buz111> describe nevermore
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#1571 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> see: The Raven
#1572 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> cross-reference: Edgar Allen Poe
#1573 [21:08] <buz111> diskdaemon, if i play minecraft with smooth lighting and fancy graphics minecraft lags
#1574 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> buz111: Get a better computer
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#1576 [21:09] <buz111> what cpu's do you suggest for this new computer?
#1577 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> buz111: I don't have any system building advice for you
#1578 [21:10] <buz111> Then why did you tell me to get a better computer?
#1579 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> Because that's relevant to your situaiton
#1580 [21:11] <buz111> Then please describe what a better computer would be?
#1581 [21:12] <buz111> A mac?
#1582 [21:12] <DiskDaemon> buz111: One that's capable of running Minecraft to your requirements
#1583 [21:13] <buz111> Mac air?
#1584 [21:13] <DiskDaemon> If that's your preference
#1585 [21:15] <buz111> I just got my new mac air
#1586 [21:15] <buz111> it runs minecraft at 15 fps
#1587 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> That's a shame
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#1589 [21:16] <shivcharan> Hello
#1590 [21:17] <shivcharan> I need help with my minecraft
#1591 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> What sort of help?
#1592 [21:17] <shivcharan> My mulitplayer wont connect to any servers
#1593 [21:17] <shivcharan> It says connot reach server
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#1595 [21:18] <Smanly> Try c.nerd.nu
#1596 [21:18] <Smanly> I think thats it...
#1597 [21:18] <doyoulikepancakes> I think my account's been hacked, what do I do?
#1598 [21:18] <shivcharan> That works...
#1599 [21:18] <Smanly> Why do you thinks its been hacked, doyoulikepancakes?
#1600 [21:19] <shivcharan> How though?
#1601 [21:19] <doyoulikepancakes> I can't login,,,
#1602 [21:19] <Smanly> shivcharan: How what?
#1603 [21:19] <Smanly> doyoulikepancakes: Why not?
#1604 [21:19] <doyoulikepancakes> It says it's been migrated.
#1605 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> doyoulikepancakes: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1606 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> disregard that link then
#1607 [21:19] <shivcharan> Why does this one work but the one that i played with my friends on doesnt?
#1608 [21:20] <DiskDaemon> doyoulikepancakes: When your account has been migrated, you use your email address and password to log in
#1609 [21:20] <doyoulikepancakes> I tried that, but it said that the Username or Password was incorrect.
#1610 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> doyoulikepancakes: Follow the instructions from this article about resetting your password http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#1611 [21:21] <shivcharan> Why don't the other servers work ?
#1612 [21:21] <shivcharan> only the c.nerd.nu works.. HELP! :$
#1613 [21:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Shiv: Check the ip if you cannot connect to them. Make sure the port (:25565) is correct
#1614 [21:22] <DiskDaemon> All servers are run by members of the public. No public multiplayer servers are run by Mojang
#1615 [21:22] <shivcharan> How do I check the port..
#1616 [21:22] <Smanly> shivcharan: The servers you are trying to connect to are not running.
#1617 [21:22] <doyoulikepancakes> Whenever I send the password reset link, it doesn't go straight to the email I put in.
#1618 [21:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Just make sure all the numbers are the same.
#1619 [21:23] <shivcharan> @smanly my friends are playing on the server ..
#1620 [21:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Problems with connection to a server could be: It's not up, IP's not correct, The computer's router isn't port forwarded, or it simply doesn't exist.
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#1622 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> doyoulikepancakes: Do you see the information on that web page about what to do in that situation?
#1623 [21:24] <Smanly> shivcharan: Are your friends in the same house as each other?
#1624 [21:24] <shivcharan> Nope
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#1626 [21:24] <Smanly> ??>> shivcharan dont/pm
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#1628 [21:24] <GhostBlock> yoo
#1629 [21:24] <Smanly> no yoo
#1630 [21:24] <Cod> lol
#1631 [21:25] <GhostBlock> anyone having problems with Shadows in Minecraft?
#1632 [21:25] <Mo> i need help logging in
#1633 [21:25] <Cod> i'm having some problems with my minecraft account
#1634 [21:25] <Smanly> shivcharan: You must be typing the IP adress in wrong.
#1635 [21:25] <Smanly> GhostBlock: Give us a screenshot.
#1636 [21:25] <Mo> no i didnt
#1637 [21:25] <Mo> how?
#1638 [21:25] <GhostBlock> ill try 1 sec
#1639 [21:25] <Smanly> Mo: What with exactly?
#1640 [21:26] <Smanly> Cod: What sort of problems?
#1641 [21:26] <DiskDaemon> GhostBlock: Yes, that's a known problem that the developers are keen to get fixed
#1642 [21:26] <Cod> my minecraft account won't let me login
#1643 [21:26] <Mo> minecraft wont let me log in
#1644 [21:26] <shivcharan> I am not. I am putting the server adress in ..
#1645 [21:26] <CrusaderDeleters> What exactly does it say, guys?
#1646 [21:26] <Cod> login failed it says for me
#1647 [21:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Shiv, you could be, and not even realizing it.
#1648 [21:26] <CrusaderDeleters> I've done the same think
#1649 [21:26] <shivcharan> <Samnly> Where do I put the IP ?
#1650 [21:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Instead of, say, 129.126, I put 126.129.
#1651 [21:26] <Cod> and another thing says migrate
#1652 [21:27] <Mo> it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#1653 [21:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Cod: Use your email to login.
#1654 [21:27] <Cod> i tryed but it still won't let me
#1655 [21:27] <Cod> i tryed everything
#1656 [21:27] <Mo> it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#1657 [21:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Cod, what's your email?
#1658 [21:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Erm no
#1659 [21:27] <Cod> its my moms email
#1660 [21:27] <GhostBlock> were do i find the picture that i took?
#1661 [21:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Just put, inyour username field, your email.
#1662 [21:28] <shivcharan> CrusaderDeleters: Let me try that
#1663 [21:28] <Cod> she was the one who got me minecraft account
#1664 [21:28] <shivcharan> Still doesnt work
#1665 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> Mo: Do you see HTML text in the top part of the launcher window?
#1666 [21:28] <Mo> what?
#1667 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> Mo: Or, does the bottom part of the launcher window have a dirt background or a black background?
#1668 [21:29] <Cod> my minecraft username is cod1997
#1669 [21:29] <Mo> at top
#1670 [21:29] <Cod> but everytime i use it it says use your email
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#1672 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> Mo: Pardon?
#1673 [21:30] <Mo> the text is at top
#1674 [21:30] <shivcharan> Help..
#1675 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> DiskDaemon: He says there's HTML at the top
#1676 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> He cannot connect to the internet with his Client
#1677 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> Mo: To confirm, can you please show us the text at the top?
#1678 [21:30] <Mo> *she*
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#1680 [21:31] <Cod> should i get a new account or not
#1681 [21:31] <CrusaderDeleters> No
#1682 [21:31] <Cod> k
#1683 [21:31] <Mo> how do i do that?
#1684 [21:31] <jul> how we get down in creative mod because I fly dont know how to get down
#1685 [21:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Just use your email, CoD
#1686 [21:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Double Tap Space, or shit, Jul
#1687 [21:31] <Cod> i try but still doesn't work
#1688 [21:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Lolwoops
#1689 [21:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Shift**
#1690 [21:31] <Cod> it keep saying login failed
#1691 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Cod: Make sure the password is correct, too
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#1693 [21:32] <DiskDaemon> Mo: If the problem is what I think it is, there is a solution. But it will only work if it's the problem that we think that it is. Can you please show us the text at the top that you were talking about before
#1694 [21:32] <Mo> mine says cant connect to minecraft.net
#1695 [21:32] <Cod> i always know what my password is
#1696 [21:33] <Mo> ya i said when i try to login it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#1697 [21:33] <Cod> but everytime i use it still won't work
#1698 [21:33] <DiskDaemon> Mo: There are at least 6 different causes for that error message. Diagnoses is required
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#1700 [21:33] <Mo> how do i fix it?
#1701 [21:33] <shivcharan> Why does c.nerd.nu work but my friends server 5.2.163.3 doesnt...
#1702 [21:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Shiv
#1703 [21:33] <DiskDaemon> Mo: THen please show us that text at the top that you were talking about before
#1704 [21:33] <CrusaderDeleters> That's not a normal IP
#1705 [21:34] <Cod> wait ok i'm on my minecraft.net account
#1706 [21:34] <shivcharan> Yea?
#1707 [21:34] <Cod> i'm on the email
#1708 [21:34] <Mo> how on earth do i show u text from before?
#1709 [21:34] <shivcharan> Thats the server id..
#1710 [21:34] <CrusaderDeleters> DiskDaemon: Do you know what that program is called? It connects servers without port forwarding?
#1711 [21:34] <jul> thanks crusader
#1712 [21:34] <Smanly> Hamachi
#1713 [21:34] <shivcharan> CrusaderDeleters: Thats the server id
#1714 [21:34] <CrusaderDeleters> No problem, Jul
#1715 [21:34] <Smanly> -_-
#1716 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> Mo: Is there HTML text at the top of the launcher window?
#1717 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: no idea
#1718 [21:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes, shivcharan, you need hamachi in order to connect to the server.
#1719 [21:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Ask your friends about the Hamachi.
#1720 [21:35] <GhostBlock> so someones workin on the Shadow problem Right?
#1721 [21:35] <Mo> what is HTML? sorry im really not smart
#1722 [21:35] <shivcharan> Alrighty let me try xD
#1723 [21:35] <Smanly> Or tell them to simply port forward.
#1724 [21:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Smanly: "Or tell them to simply port forward."
#1725 [21:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes, that
#1726 [21:35] <Cod> how do you get a public server without hamachi or port forwarding?
#1727 [21:35] <Smanly> GhostBlock: Yes.
#1728 [21:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Can't.
#1729 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> Mo: There is no "one magic solution" for you. The solution for you all depends on what your situation is.
#1730 [21:35] <shivcharan> Thanks guys.
#1731 [21:35] <Cod> oh
#1732 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> ?? dont/bother
#1733 [21:35] * DiskDaemon gives up
#1733 [21:35] <VoxelHead> dont/bother: If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
#1734 [21:36] <GhostBlock> Sweet
#1735 [21:36] <Mo> alrite thanks
#1736 [21:36] <Mo> so no i cant login to miecraft
#1737 [21:36] <Cod> ok i'm in my minecraft.net account
#1738 [21:36] <Mo> now*
#1739 [21:36] <Cod> should i try my minecraft game?
#1740 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> It is better for me to leave this discussion before my emotional state makes things worse
#1741 [21:37] <Mo> anyone else willing to help me?
#1742 [21:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Mo
#1743 [21:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Look to the top
#1744 [21:37] <Mo> yes
#1745 [21:37] <CrusaderDeleters> The text
#1746 [21:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Please
#1747 [21:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Copy that text
#1748 [21:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Into here
#1749 [21:37] <Mo> yes ok
#1750 [21:37] * DiskDaemon suggests a screenshot though
#1750 [21:37] <DiskDaemon> http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#1751 [21:37] <Mo> thanks for explaining things
#1752 [21:37] <DiskDaemon> and upload to imgur.com or somewhere like that
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#1754 [21:38] <Mo> [20:24] == Mo [webchat@99-9-0-59.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #minecrafthelp [20:24] -AuBot- Welcome to #minecrafthelp! Please ask your question, don't ask to ask or wait for someone to help you. [20:24] <Smanly> ??>> shivcharan dont/pm [20:24] == GhostBlock [webchat@72.188.101.216] has joined #minecrafthelp [20:24] <GhostBlock> yoo [20:24] <Smanly> no yoo [20:25] <Cod> lol [20:25] <GhostBlock> anyone having probl
#1755 [21:38] <Smanly> wat
#1756 [21:38] <Cod> i tryed minecraft again but still won't let me login
#1757 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Mo: Minecraft Client**
#1758 [21:38] <Cod> i'm in my minecraft.net account
#1759 [21:38] <Mo> what
#1760 [21:39] <Mo> [Rules: http://is.gd/zB1w9I | For account issues see http://is.gd/G3zPKi | Minecraft client, server are 1.3.2 | We do not support Classic or pre-releases | To downgrade, use MCNostalgia or a backup | There are currently issues with in-game skins (SMP) | There are currently DNS issues with login.minecraft.net. Check this for login issues!]
#1761 [21:39] <Cod> why won't it let in logon to my game
#1762 [21:39] <Smanly> Mo: Wtf are you even doing?
#1763 [21:39] <Mo> i am doing what they say
#1764 [21:39] <Smanly> Mo: What did "they" say?
#1765 [21:39] <Mo> well trying to atleast
#1766 [21:40] <Mo> copy and paste things
#1767 [21:40] <Smanly> ...
#1768 [21:40] <Smanly> things
#1769 [21:40] <Mo> the HTML
#1770 [21:40] <Smanly> Which is where?
#1771 [21:40] <Mo> i have no idea
#1772 [21:40] <Smanly> So... then you are just here for the fun of it?
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#1774 [21:41] <Cod> anyone willing to help me on how to help me get back in my minecraft game? cause it keeps saying login failed
#1775 [21:41] <Smanly> Cod: can you login on the website?
#1776 [21:41] * DiskDaemon prods CrusaderDeleters about the screenshot idea
#1776 [21:41] <Mo> no i need help loging in it says cant connect to minecraft.net when i try to log in
#1777 [21:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Don't tell me, tell mo.
#1778 [21:41] <Smanly> lol
#1779 [21:42] <Mo> i can log in on the website
#1780 [21:42] * Ayria waves. "question. I'm trying to log into a friends server to play with them. but when I try to log in, it gives me an 'outdated' client message
#1780 [21:42] <Cod> yes but i'm in my profile and it says i have to purchase my skin!
#1781 [21:42] <DiskDaemon> Mo: Can we please see a screenshot of how things look when you can't connect
#1782 [21:42] <Smanly> Cod: What is your Minecraft username?
#1783 [21:42] <Mo> oh ya i can one sec
#1784 [21:42] <Cod> its cod1997
#1785 [21:42] <Smanly> !paid cod1997
#1786 [21:42] <Smanly> er... wat was it
#1787 [21:43] <CrusaderDeleters> It was correcft.
#1788 [21:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Some bot is just derping around.
#1789 [21:43] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid cod1997
#1790 [21:43] <CrusaderDeleters> :I
#1791 [21:43] <Smanly> herp de derp
#1792 [21:43] <Cod> i have purchase to change my skin
#1793 [21:43] <Smanly> Cod: When did you buy it?
#1794 [21:43] <Smanly> Minecraft that it
#1795 [21:43] <Smanly> is*
#1796 [21:44] <Cod> since 2010
#1797 [21:44] <Smanly> lolwut
#1798 [21:44] <Smanly> Cod: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
#1799 [21:46] <Mo> it wont let me take a screenshot
#1800 [21:46] <Smanly> Mo: What wont?
#1801 [21:46] * Ayria is using the most recent 'minecraft.exe' and i forced an update, but it keeps saying my minecraft is outdated... any way to manually update?
#1801 [21:46] <Cod> My account is no longer premium it says now
#1802 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> Mo: http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#1803 [21:46] <Cod> i'm a mac
#1804 [21:46] <Mo> my computer wont let me take a screenshot
#1805 [21:46] <Smanly> Ayria: What version is the server on?
#1806 [21:47] <Smanly> Cod: Did you click the link?
#1807 [21:47] <Cod> Mo i'm a mac
#1808 [21:48] <Smanly> ...
#1809 [21:48] <Mo> one sec
#1810 [21:48] * Ayria goes to find out. "could having a newer version of minecraft cause an 'out of date' message? they say its 1.3.2, 12w36a
#1810 [21:48] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#1811 [21:48] <Smanly> Ayria: They are playing a snapshot
#1812 [21:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Tell them to upgrade their server
#1813 [21:48] <Smanly> It is, CrusaderDeleters lolwuit
#1814 [21:49] <Smanly> But it is out of date
#1815 [21:49] <CrusaderDeleters> It's 1.3.2, snapshot
#1816 [21:49] <Smanly> yep
#1817 [21:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Which we are on 1.3 already. XD
#1818 [21:49] <Smanly> ...
#1819 [21:49] <Smanly> CrusaderDeleters: You are drunk. Go home.
#1820 [21:49] <Smanly> http://www.mojang.com/2012/09/minecraft-snapshot-12w38b/
#1821 [21:49] <CrusaderDeleters> :( I'm not drunk.
#1822 [21:50] <Cod> My account is gone
#1823 [21:50] <Iaccidentally> i am.
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#1825 [21:50] <Smanly> er wait...
#1826 [21:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Then Aria's frineds are wrong, because 1.3 =/= 12w36a?
#1827 [21:50] <Smanly> no...
#1828 [21:50] <Smanly> did you click that link, CrusaderDeleters ?
#1829 [21:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Actually, 36a is the first week of 1.4
#1830 [21:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes, I did
#1831 [21:51] <Smanly> oh
#1832 [21:51] <Smanly> I see what you are saying
#1833 [21:51] <Smanly> Yeah, is 1.4 I guess
#1834 [21:51] <CrusaderDeleters> 38 is current, there were 2 predecessors to the 1.4 snapshot lines
#1835 [21:51] <CrusaderDeleters> So then, they gotta update their snapshot server, or host 1.3. But all that is up to the host
#1836 [21:51] <Smanly> I think its a snapshot of 1.4
#1837 [21:52] <Smanly> I was thinking of it as 1.3 as well for some reason.
#1838 [21:53] <Cod> my account is not longer premuim
#1839 [21:53] <Smanly> ??>> Cod dont/bother
#1840 [21:53] <Smanly> :D
#1841 [21:53] <Cod> i can't play minecraft anymore
#1842 [21:53] <Smanly> -_-...
#1843 [21:54] <Smanly> Yes, we know
#1844 [21:54] <Cod> what now
#1845 [21:54] <Smanly> Read what I have told you.
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#1847 [21:55] <Cod> yes
#1848 [21:55] <Smanly> yes?
#1849 [21:55] <Cod> i read it
#1850 [21:55] <Smanly> Which part?
#1851 [21:56] <Cod> i don't remember
#1852 [21:57] <Smanly> Cod: What are you even trying to acomplish here?
#1853 [21:57] <Cod> idk
#1854 [21:57] <Smanly> ok. If you want, you can just do /part
#1855 [21:57] <Smanly> ok. If you want, you can just do /part
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#1857 [21:58] <Smanly> Ok then
#1858 [21:58] * Smanly runs and hides
#1858 [22:01] <Dream_Rider> What is the sky cap?
#1859 [22:01] <Smanly> 256
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#1864 [22:03] <ILIKEPIE3802> my screen is white when i try to play in the browser
#1865 [22:04] <Smanly> ILIKEPIE3802: Have you ever been able to play?
#1866 [22:04] <ILIKEPIE3802> no
#1867 [22:05] <Smanly> ILIKEPIE3802: You will need to install Java
#1868 [22:05] <ILIKEPIE3802> i only have 504MB of RAM and I have a 1.73GHz processor
#1869 [22:05] <ILIKEPIE3802> i have java i think
#1870 [22:05] <Smanly> wat...
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#1876 [22:10] <Dream_Rider> Thanks Smanly.
#1877 [22:10] <Smanly> Np
#1878 [22:11] <Smanly> ??> ILIKEPIE3802 requirements
#1879 [22:11] <VoxelHead> ILIKEPIE3802: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in Java!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
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#1882 [22:17] <ILIKEPIE3802> what does open gl mean
#1883 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> Graphics Library
#1884 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> open means that it's not copyright or patented
#1885 [22:18] <ILIKEPIE3802> it says my video drive is bad. how do i find out what video drive i have and what one do i need to run minecraft?
#1886 [22:18] <ILIKEPIE3802> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#1887 [22:19] <Smanly> But, you only have 504mb of RAM
#1888 [22:19] <Smanly> My phone has more
#1889 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> ??> ILIKEPIE3802 win/dxdiag
#1890 [22:19] <VoxelHead> ILIKEPIE3802: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1891 [22:19] <VoxelHead> ILIKEPIE3802: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1893 [22:21] <buz111> Hey voxelhead what cpu's would you recommend for playing minecraft on max settings with shading mods?
#1894 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> buz111: box is a bot
#1895 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> *vox is a bot
#1896 [22:21] <Smanly> Its mostly GPU/
#1897 [22:21] <buz111> Oh
#1898 [22:21] <buz111> lol
#1899 [22:21] <Smanly> sorta, kinda.
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#1907 [22:38] <mom> just downloaded the game to new laptop for my son. when I run the program and log in it tells me to update. when i update i get a message that says fatal error (null 4) help
#1908 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> See http://minecraftirc.net/thread-35.html
#1909 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> It see sm to be your antivirus
#1910 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#1911 [22:39] <DiskDaemon> mom: So you have avira or mcafee?
#1912 [22:39] <mom> mcafee
#1913 [22:39] <DiskDaemon> Temporarily disable that, and try again
#1914 [22:39] <mom> ok will try now
#1915 [22:42] <mom> turned off firewall and still got fatal error message
#1916 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> I did not say firewall
#1917 [22:43] <mom> ok that was all i saw let me look again to disable the whole thing
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#1943 [23:48] <freak_sniper> hi, excuse me, can i talk with a Admin please ?
#1944 [23:50] <freak_sniper> I have sell my game to a friend 15€ (i had paid it 15€) and i want to change email, can i do it ?
#1945 [23:54] <Smanly> Nope
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