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#3 [00:22] <Smanly> Eddie: Er... wat?
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#5 [00:28] <xHaides> ok so i downloaded minecraft and installed the correct jave update when i try to play i login and the screen goes black for a few seconds then dissapears???
#6 [00:29] <xHaides> java*
#7 [00:29] <Andrio> Do you use mods?
#8 [00:29] <xHaides> no i just bought downloaded the game tonight on pc
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#10 [00:31] <xHaides> so nobody knows???
#11 [00:32] <WantToBuyWithAmEX> When I try to buy with AmEx, it takes me to a page with no amex option. Paypal option charges me Euros instead of dollars. Is there an option here?
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#16 [01:04] <death_hunter365> every time i try to connect to a server it says " failed to connect, connection timed out"
#17 [01:05] <Smanly> the servers probably not up
#18 [01:05] <Smanly> Bai o/
#19 [01:07] <death_hunter365> i tryed a different one and it said "connect refused:connect:"
#20 [01:08] <Andrio> Also probably not up.
#21 [01:09] <KrAcKeD> is there a channel for people creating and hosting games on worlds/maps that they made ?
#22 [01:10] <Andrio> #smp ?
#23 [01:11] <death_hunter365> k i solved it dont worry
#24 [01:14] <KrAcKeD> wellll
#25 [01:15] <KrAcKeD> everytime i try to connect to a server on #smp
#26 [01:15] <KrAcKeD> it says
#27 [01:15] <KrAcKeD> login failed: User not premium
#28 [01:16] <Andrio> I did warn you that most servers don't allow cracked users.
#29 [01:19] <Scott> we don't assist pirates here.
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#35 [01:38] <Nzyme> Question - Is it possible to register multiple accounts with the same email address? I have an account, but would like to set one up for my son as well.
#36 [01:42] <KrAcKeD> just make a email address for him and register him an account over there
#37 [01:42] <KrAcKeD> you cant make 2 on same email email is a unique id
#38 [01:42] <Nzyme> got it
#39 [01:42] <Nzyme> done :) thanks!
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#47 [02:18] <Andrio> >/kill
#48 [02:19] <Andrio> * Andrio fell out of the world.
#49 [02:19] <Andrio> lolwut?
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#53 [02:23] <sigvatr> hey Eddie|Away
#54 [02:23] <sigvatr> your a faggot
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#57 [02:23] <sigvatr> hahahahaha
#58 [02:23] <sigvatr> # ###
#59 [02:23] <sigvatr> # #
#60 [02:23] <sigvatr> #####
#61 [02:23] <sigvatr> # #
#62 [02:24] <sigvatr> ### #
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#64 [02:24] <rymate1234> o.o
#65 [02:24] <sigvatr> does anyone even use this channel
#66 [02:25] <Andrio> Yes, they do.
#67 [02:25] <rymate1234> Nope
#68 [02:25] <rymate1234> Sorry
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#124 [08:01] <HP_Administrator> hello?
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#126 [08:02] <Tanner_94> i was charged twice... how do i get refunded??
#127 [08:02] <Me4502> Erm...
#128 [08:03] <Me4502> You need to email mojang. This channel can't offer that kind of support
#129 [08:03] <Me4502> Although mollstam can.
#130 [08:03] <Tanner_94> i just wanted to be pointed in the right direction
#131 [08:04] <Me4502> Okay
#132 [08:04] <Me4502> Either tell mollstam or email mojang
#133 [08:04] <Tanner_94> thank you for your help!
#134 [08:04] <Me4502> Your welcome :)
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#136 [08:07] <Boreeas> Tanner_94: More specifically: http://help.mojang.com will probably be able to help you out
#137 [08:08] <Boreeas> And the best way to contact them directly is via http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#170 [11:03] <lolwat> Hello
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#172 [11:03] <lolwat> anyone here
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#174 [11:05] <Andrio> Hi
#175 [11:05] <lolwat> Hey
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#177 [11:06] <lolwat> Is there a way to use a 360 controller on PC version of minecraft?
#178 [11:06] <lolwat> my Keyboard is kinda messed up right now
#179 [11:07] <Andrio> Hmm... I've never tried to use game controllers in Minecraft, myself.
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#182 [11:08] <lolwat> yeah, i spelt sprite on my keyboard and now it's really hard to type
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#185 [11:09] <lolwat> i have a new replacement keyboard coming in but that's not intill like a week or two
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#188 [11:12] <hcarter> Greetings all
#189 [11:12] <Andrio> Hello, hcarter.
#190 [11:13] <hcarter> One Question, one of my Users has a Problem with the Launcher. He said that there's only HTML Code shown, and if he tries to login it shows him the message "Cannot connect to ....". Firewall and other Stuff that could be in the Way is open for the Patcher.
#191 [11:14] <hcarter> Java 1.7 23 & 64 Bit is installed aswell
#192 [11:14] <hcarter> err 32
#193 [11:15] <Andrio> That's not an uncommon problem. I think you can sometimes fix it by forcing Java to use IPv4, but I'm not sure on how to do that.
#194 [11:15] <Andrio> ??< index
#195 [11:15] <Andrio> ??< java/ipv6
#196 [11:15] <Andrio> ??< java/ipv6/bat
#197 [11:16] <hcarter> That are the Help commands here ?
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#199 [11:16] <Andrio> yeah, those are VoxelHead's commands.
#200 [11:17] <hcarter> ??< index
#201 [11:17] <hcarter> ??< java/ipv6/bat
#202 [11:18] <hcarter> ??< java/ipv6
#203 [11:24] <Andrio> Try downloading this
#204 [11:24] <Andrio> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#205 [11:25] <Andrio> put it on your desktop
#206 [11:25] <Andrio> put the .bat that VoxelHead linked you on the desktop too
#207 [11:25] <Andrio> and run the .bet
#208 [11:25] <Andrio> and run the .bat*
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#216 [11:33] <hcarter> Have to test it, was afk because got visit :)
#217 [11:37] <hcarter> OK seems it worked for him, many thanks :)
#218 [11:38] <Andrio> Glad I was able to help. :)
#219 [11:38] <hcarter> Ok have to log now, visitors here :)
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#225 [11:59] <Grox> Recently i have upgraded my computer to Mountain lion , when i had Snow leopard the game worked fine, now that i have updated i went on minecraft and i tried logging in and than it was just stuck on a black screen and just stayed that way , i tried deleting my minecraft folder and force updating but still black screen. Please help me! Minecraft username: 24Grox Computer information: Processor 3.2 GHz Intel Core i3 Memory 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 Graphic
#226 [11:59] <Grox> please help?
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#230 [12:01] <lolwat> Oh god mountain lion
#231 [12:01] <lolwat> i remember when i had my macbook
#232 [12:01] <lolwat> i liked that laptop
#233 [12:02] <Grox> yep
#234 [12:02] <Grox> can you help with that?
#235 [12:03] <Grox> mojang dosent seem to ever respond emails
#236 [12:03] <lolwat> umm, all i play minecraft on is win 7 and ubuntu
#237 [12:03] <lolwat> and now and then 360
#238 [12:03] <lolwat> on* 360
#239 [12:04] <Grox> i dont think anyone can help me with that
#240 [12:04] <Grox> excpet maybe mojang
#241 [12:04] <Grox> but mojang never anwsers emails
#242 [12:05] <lolwat> Umm
#243 [12:05] <lolwat> have you tryed deleting the entire minecraft folder
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#245 [12:06] <Grox> yep
#246 [12:06] <Grox> tried everything
#247 [12:06] <Grox> its since i upgraded to mountain lion
#248 [12:06] <Grox> its since i upgraded to mountain lion
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#250 [12:08] <lolwat> ok so it's been like 3 years ago since i have used mac os x
#251 [12:08] <lolwat> is it called lion now or is it mountain lion
#252 [12:08] <Grox> mountain lion
#253 [12:08] <Grox> i had snowleopard before
#254 [12:08] <lolwat> what version is that like 10.8 right
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#256 [12:10] <lolwat> umm
#257 [12:10] <lolwat> i found a youtube vido
#258 [12:10] <lolwat> video*
#259 [12:10] <lolwat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U33jdHDgiCQ
#260 [12:10] <Grox> saw that dident work
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#262 [12:13] <lolwat> have you tired updating java
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#264 [12:16] <Grox> wait
#265 [12:16] <Grox> i fixed it
#266 [12:17] <Grox> i redownloaded the Minecraft.app itself
#267 [12:17] <lolwat> oh
#268 [12:17] <Grox> wow for like a month i couldent play and that simple fix fixed it.
#269 [12:17] <lolwat> yeah, im trying to get a xbox controller to work for minecraft
#270 [12:17] <lolwat> my keyboard is messed up right now
#271 [12:17] <Grox> it it worth to buy minecraft for xbox?
#272 [12:18] <lolwat> it's fun
#273 [12:18] <lolwat> i say if you have the extra money then yeah
#274 [12:18] <Grox> yeah but i got minecraft on my pc too so why should i get it on xbox? any big difference?
#275 [12:18] <lolwat> it's a older version of minecraft
#276 [12:19] <lolwat> and it auto crafts?
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#287 [12:53] <BrianNastiii> i need some help with my tekkit server?
#288 [12:54] <Necrodoom> ask
#289 [12:54] <Necrodoom> also
#290 [12:54] <Necrodoom> ?? mods
#291 [12:55] <BrianNastiii> ok so whenever i try to spawn in computercraft items my launcher crashes?
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#293 [12:57] <Necrodoom> that would be something for techicforumd
#294 [12:57] <Necrodoom> forums*
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#320 [14:21] <ancara22> Hello?
#321 [14:21] <NinjaKirby> I hate JPG artifacting, stupid grid block pattern compression, always mullers Red colours and dulls it out.
#322 [14:21] <NinjaKirby> Hey there -_-
#323 [14:21] <ancara22> It's been ages since I last ran minecraft, and wow does it seem to run so slowly once I start up a new world.
#324 [14:22] <ancara22> Trying to figure out whatever I can do to get it to not go so slowly.
#325 [14:22] <NinjaKirby> It's run fine in the past on the same PC/Laptop?
#326 [14:23] <ancara22> Yeah. A bit of lag back then, but not this badly.
#327 [14:23] <NinjaKirby> Does it progressively get worse, or just instantly at a constant rate?
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#329 [14:24] <ancara22> It's just constantly staying so laggy once I started up a new world.
#330 [14:24] <zenon> hi, how can i deactivate in the sonic eithers shader mod the blurred effect, when i move?
#331 [14:24] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, couple of aspects about World generation has changed, like a new 256 Block world height and stuff, could be impacting it.
#332 [14:25] <NinjaKirby> I guess turning down View distance and stuff doesn't help much?
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#334 [14:25] <ancara22> I set it to short, as always.
#335 [14:25] <ancara22> Still so laggy.
#336 [14:26] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, I'm suspecting it's the underlying Java
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#338 [14:26] <ancara22> Oh?
#339 [14:26] <NinjaKirby> Well, that's what I draw from the situation anyway XD Maybe a clean install of Java v7, 64bit edition if you run 64bit OS
#340 [14:27] <ancara22> I think this laptop's a 32 bit machine, I dunno.
#341 [14:27] <NinjaKirby> Vista or 7?
#342 [14:28] <ancara22> Vista.
#343 [14:28] <NinjaKirby> Ah, going to properties on the My Computer icon can tell you for sure.
#344 [14:28] <ancara22> yep, 32-bit.
#345 [14:29] <NinjaKirby> No harm in trying a fresh install of the latest Java :) Unless anyone else here has any great idea's.
#346 [14:30] <ancara22> Doing so now.
#347 [14:30] <NinjaKirby> :) It won't affect Minecraft saves or anything, it's all separate. Shouldn't affect a modded minecraft either.
#348 [14:31] <ancara22> It's all vanilla. Hopefully this reduces lag to a reasonable level.
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#351 [14:32] <rtgrav> hi
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#353 [14:33] <rtgrav> i have got a minecraft server running with my friends.... now its a city and i want to open it to the public
#354 [14:33] <rtgrav> so atm i am configurating the server for public use
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#357 [14:34] <rtgrav> anyone around who would like to help me?
#358 [14:34] <ancara22> Alrighty, time to test this thing out now.
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#360 [14:34] * NinjaKirby has his fingers crossed
#360 [14:34] <rtgrav> ;D i need someone to simulate a "public" person :D
#361 [14:34] <rtgrav> ancara, talked to me?
#362 [14:35] <NinjaKirby> rtgrav: Testing admin functions or something?
#363 [14:35] <ancara22> I think it worked!
#364 [14:35] <NinjaKirby> FPS seems better?
#365 [14:35] <ancara22> I think, by a bit.
#366 [14:35] <rtgrav> NinjaKirby: i got much stuff already running, but its a bit messed up with the configs
#367 [14:36] <NinjaKirby> Ancara22: Usually that and Graphics Driver updates are the course of action, the latter could help too, tough to say
#368 [14:36] <rtgrav> NinjaKirby: i am afraid when my server goes public people will grief
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#370 [14:37] <NinjaKirby> rtgrav: If no one opts to hop on your server, I don't mind being a test dummy in a while :)
#371 [14:37] <rtgrav> cool
#372 [14:37] <Smanly> rtgrav: Whats keeping them from griefing? lol
#373 [14:37] <rtgrav> worldguard, bpermissions and... ummm
#374 [14:37] <rtgrav> jail?
#375 [14:38] <NinjaKirby> lol
#376 [14:38] <Smanly> lol
#377 [14:38] <ancara22> Still hitting patches of huge lag at points.
#378 [14:38] <ancara22> weird.
#379 [14:38] <NinjaKirby> Ancara22: Hmmm :/
#380 [14:38] <Smanly> rtgrav: You need a logging plugin.
#381 [14:39] <NinjaKirby> Ancara22: Ah, tried Optifine? Never used it myself, but it's a client performance enhancement mod
#382 [14:39] <Smanly> Unless you allow griefing else where.
#383 [14:39] <rtgrav> i got mcmyadmin running, for logging wich would you suggest?
#384 [14:39] <Smanly> Well, even if you do.
#385 [14:39] <Smanly> Logblock
#386 [14:39] <ancara22> Not really, tbh. Never heard of it.
#387 [14:39] <Smanly> And, I dont like MCMA, lol.
#388 [14:39] <rtgrav> Ancara22: Performance problems? Optifine is very nice. try the Optifine "Smooth" version
#389 [14:39] <Smanly> Spacebukkit is much nicer.
#390 [14:40] <ancara22> Link?
#391 [14:40] <rtgrav> well i already paid for it
#392 [14:40] <rtgrav> mom
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#394 [14:40] <Smanly> ancara22: optifine.com
#395 [14:40] <Smanly> rtgrav: Oh...
#396 [14:40] <NinjaKirby> Alternatively; http://tinyurl.com/8khptcq for the thread
#397 [14:41] <NinjaKirby> Actually, that may not be the same optifine, ignore that, lerl
#398 [14:41] <ancara22> Alrighty. Now I just gotta figure out installing it....
#399 [14:41] <rtgrav> smanly, are you good with admin stuff?
#400 [14:42] <Smanly> I would say so. Yes.
#401 [14:43] <ancara22> DL'd it, now to figure out how to install this thing....
#402 [14:43] <Smanly> rtgrav: I would suggest channels shuch as #bukkit and many other depending on the plugin.
#403 [14:44] <rtgrav> okay...
#404 [14:45] <ancara22> Alrighty, got it installed, now to test.
#405 [14:46] <NinjaKirby> >_< Your Minecraft client has auto patched to 1.3.2 right?
#406 [14:47] <ancara22> Yeah. Also, WOW. From 3 to 26 fps.
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#408 [14:47] <NinjaKirby> lol god, I gotta try Optifine sometime
#409 [14:47] <ancara22> Yep, this was about the fps I had prior to today.
#410 [14:48] <NinjaKirby> Lovely jubbly, hopefully tolerable. I'm still not sure if there's a problem somewhere though, heh
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#412 [14:48] <ancara22> I'm happy with this fps, works fine enough for me.
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#415 [14:50] <NinjaKirby> Sweet
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#421 [14:58] <xavierxandar> Anyone able to help me with a bug?
#422 [15:01] <Smanly> What sort of a bug?
#423 [15:01] <xavierxandar> I'll start a world on survival, and after exiting the minecraft program, I'll load my world again and it'll keep me in the same location I was when I quit, but it loses all my progress. Also, when I spawn after loading a world, I'll fall for a bit and everything's black. I can see some clouds, and the sparkley dust things you see below bedrock, but nothing else.
#424 [15:01] <Smanly> A beetle perhaps?
#425 [15:01] <xavierxandar> Lol :P
#426 [15:02] <Smanly> ??> xavierxandar specs
#427 [15:02] <VoxelHead> xavierxandar: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#428 [15:02] <Smanly> Mainly just the ram/cpu speed
#429 [15:03] <xavierxandar> just a sec
#430 [15:03] <Smanly> Sounds like you HDD io speed is too slow to load the world fast enough. Or does it not load at all?
#431 [15:04] <xavierxandar> It loads eventually, but not for like 10 seconds
#432 [15:05] <xavierxandar> It's windows 7, 32 bit operating system, 3.00GB of ram
#433 [15:05] <Smanly> Hmm.
#434 [15:07] <xavierxandar> I've had the problem for the last update or two.
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#442 [15:20] <VasLight7894> i forgot my password
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#445 [15:21] <VasLight7894> hi
#446 [15:21] <VasLight7894> hi
#447 [15:21] <VasLight7894> hello
#448 [15:22] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> VasLight7894 dont/pm
#449 [15:22] <VoxelHead> VasLight7894: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#450 [15:22] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> VasLight7894 resetpass
#451 [15:22] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> VasLight7894 passreset
#452 [15:22] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ... damnit vox
#453 [15:23] <|Kiikun|Janus|> VasLight7894: go to help.mojang.com and look for 'reset password
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#481 [16:38] <guikimih> my minecraft is not updating on imac osx
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#483 [16:39] <guikimih> since the 1.3.1 update
#484 [16:40] <guikimih> it just starts to updating them it fails
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#486 [16:40] <NinjaKirby> Tempo...
#487 [16:40] <NinjaKirby> rarily.
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#497 [16:52] <malteee> Hello
#498 [16:52] <malteee> I have a problem with my Minecraft Client.
#499 [16:53] <malteee> I get the following error while connecting on a server: java.net.SocketException: Unpassender IOCTL (I/O-Control) für das Gerät
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#501 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> ??>> Scott mac/gatekeeper
#502 [16:54] <Scott> it hates you lol
#503 [16:54] <Scott> And I'm not sure.
#504 [16:54] <Scott> But probably
#505 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> it doesn't hate me; you should have been queried or noticed the FAQ.
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#507 [16:59] <scoztax> I need help because for some reason I'm unable to play Minecraft in my browser.
#508 [16:59] <CrusaderDeleters> What exactly happens?
#509 [17:00] <scoztax> I click play in browser, and the page loads, just not the game.
#510 [17:00] <scoztax> I have the latest version of Java, and have tried using internet explorer, firefox, and chrome
#511 [17:00] <scoztax> Google Chrome*
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#514 [17:01] <scoztax> Also I have tried 3 different computers
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#516 [17:01] <scoztax> I was able to start up the demo, but once I purchased the game, I couldn't load it up
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#524 [17:20] <xavierxandar> Can someone help me with a bug? I'll start a world on survival, and after exiting the minecraft program, I'll load my world again and it'll keep me in the same location I was when I quit, but it loses all my progress. Also, when I spawn after loading a world, I'll fall for a bit and everything's black. I can see some clouds, and the sparkley dust things you see below bedrock, but nothing else.
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#527 [17:22] <xavierxandar> Can someone help me with a bug? I'll start a world on survival, and after exiting the minecraft program, I'll load my world again and it'll keep me in the same location I was when I quit, but it loses all my progress. Also, when I spawn after loading a world, I'll fall for a bit and everything's black. I can see some clouds, and the sparkley dust things you see below bedrock, but nothing else.
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#530 [17:27] <DiskDaemon> I recall that the second situation that you mention there used to happen on slow computers. Could that be related?
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#532 [17:28] <DiskDaemon> The reason why it happens is that the information about the world can't be retrieved and processed fast enough, so you fall through the world before any "land" has had the chance to form beneath you
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#534 [17:31] <Twised_tac0> my minecraft hasnt been working for about a month i get unknow host on all severs ever time i start my internet up it wont work because minecraft is open but i can play tekkit it will work on mulitplayer help please !!!
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#536 [17:33] <Twised_tac0> help please
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#538 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> What's an example of a server that you're trying to connect to?
#539 [17:35] <Twised_tac0> pvp.novascraft.com meepcraft.oom
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#542 [17:36] <Twised_tac0> meepcraft.com*
#543 [17:36] <DiskDaemon> I'm not getting any DNS resolution for either of those
#544 [17:36] <Twised_tac0> mc-pvp.com
#545 [17:36] <DiskDaemon> !ping pvp.novascraft.com
#546 [17:37] <Twised_tac0> hg.minecrafthunger.com
#547 [17:38] <DiskDaemon> !check mc-pvp.com
#548 [17:38] <Twised_tac0> no
#549 [17:38] <DiskDaemon> !check hg.minecrafthunger.com
#550 [17:38] <Lutzee> !check s.nerd.nu
#551 [17:38] <Twised_tac0> but i know these are severs that work my friends are on right now
#552 [17:38] <Lutzee> Try that one
#553 [17:38] <DiskDaemon> Twised_tac0: Looks like they're not up
#554 [17:38] <DiskDaemon> !check s.nerd.nu
#555 [17:41] <DiskDaemon> Twised_tac0: Is there anything else we can help you with?
#556 [17:41] * Me4502|away is now known as Me4502
#557 [17:43] <Twised_tac0> here try this sever i keep getting unkown host mc.ArtificialCraft.net
#558 [17:44] <DiskDaemon> !check mc.ArtificialCraft.net
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#561 [17:49] <Twised_tac0> ever sever i try i get unknow host
#562 [17:51] <Twised_tac0> and i know that this sever is up hg.minecrafthunger.net because my frined is on
#563 [17:52] <Twised_tac0> would this have something to do with java
#564 [17:52] <DiskDaemon> What happens when you try to ping that domain?
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#566 [17:52] <Twised_tac0> or would it have something to do with internet
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#568 [17:53] <NinjaKirby> Energise the Command Prompt, Good Sir, and Launch yonder Ping Operations
#569 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> !check hg.minecrafthunger.net
#570 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> !check hg.minecrafthunger.net
#571 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Nope, doesn't look like there's a MC server running there
#572 [17:54] <DiskDaemon> Twised_tac0: Do you get the same problem when trying to connect to mc.ArtificialCraft.net
#573 [17:54] <DiskDaemon> !check mc.ArtificialCraft.net
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#575 [17:54] <Twised_tac0> ever sever does it
#576 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> So does it do it with DiskDaemon's suggested server?
#577 [17:55] <Twised_tac0> with sever ?
#578 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> mc.ArtificialCraft.net
#579 [17:56] <Twised_tac0> yes i got unkown host
#580 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> Twised_tac0: Then please follow NinjaKirby's somewhat colorful advice
#581 [17:56] <Twised_tac0> ?
#582 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> NinjaKirby: You have the helm. Good luck sir.
#583 [17:57] <Twised_tac0> ok what do i need to do
#584 [17:57] <NinjaKirby> Oh god
#585 [17:58] <NinjaKirby> lol
#586 [17:58] <Twised_tac0> ?
#587 [17:58] <NinjaKirby> Okay, well, for Pinging, press and hold the Windows Key, then press 'R' on the keyboard.
#588 [17:58] <NinjaKirby> Should get a little box come up in the bottom left.
#589 [17:59] <Twised_tac0> ya i did
#590 [17:59] <NinjaKirby> Awesome, type "cmd" without quotations, and press enter. You should then be confronted with a Black Command Line box.
#591 [17:59] <Twised_tac0> next
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#593 [18:00] <NinjaKirby> type "ping mc.ArtificialCraft.net" without quotations, or simply copy and paste it, then hit enter
#594 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> one does not simple paste into cmd.exe
#595 [18:00] <NinjaKirby> I believe to paste in command prompt you have to use...
#596 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> simply, even
#597 [18:01] <NinjaKirby> Indeed
#598 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> use the control menu, select edit -> paste
#599 [18:01] <NinjaKirby> Right Click the black window, and select paste.
#600 [18:01] <DiskDaemon> right-click on the black window and choose paste, to paste.
#601 [18:01] <NinjaKirby> Or what he said.
#602 [18:01] <NinjaKirby> Let's all phrase it differently, for clarity, lol
#603 [18:01] <Twised_tac0> slowdown
#604 [18:02] <Twised_tac0> it says not recognized as a internal or external command
#605 [18:04] <Twised_tac0> hello ?
#606 [18:04] <NinjaKirby> Sorry, I had the window scrolled.
#607 [18:04] <Twised_tac0> ok
#608 [18:04] <NinjaKirby> Strange, must be an input issue
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#610 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Twised_tac0 - What command are you putting in, exactly?
#611 [18:04] <NinjaKirby> ping mc.ArtificialCraft.net
#612 [18:05] <NinjaKirby> Grey ^^;;
#613 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> I'd like him to tell us that
#614 [18:05] <NinjaKirby> Ah, fair enough, lerl
#615 [18:05] <DiskDaemon> Twised_tac0: Can you please type here, what you typed in to the command prompt to ping that server?
#616 [18:05] <Twised_tac0> i got it i dindnt put ping
#617 [18:05] <Twised_tac0> didnt*
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#620 [18:06] <biggyp> can someone help me with setting up bpermissions into my server
#621 [18:07] <DiskDaemon> biggyp: Please go to the #bukkit channel for help with bukkit-related things
#622 [18:07] <NinjaKirby> So Twised, did you get read timeouts, or did you get successful replies?
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#624 [18:08] <Twised_tac0> i think it was successful but i just also tried it in minecraft and i still got unknow host
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#629 [18:09] <NinjaKirby> The Ping command itself wouldn't work from Minecraft, so that's fine. The address part should though.
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#631 [18:09] <Twised_tac0> ?
#632 [18:10] <NinjaKirby> The mc.ArtificialCraft.net, you should be able to direct connect to that.
#633 [18:10] <NinjaKirby> If not, I guess it's perhaps a Firewall issue
#634 [18:11] <Twised_tac0> i always have had to direct connect because i get end of stream when i just click
#635 [18:11] <Twised_tac0> so you are say fire wall
#636 [18:12] <NinjaKirby> Maybe, do you know if you run McAfee or Norton, anything like that?
#637 [18:12] <NinjaKirby> Some have been known to cause trouble with Minecraft
#638 [18:12] <NinjaKirby> Even when they technically shouldn't.
#639 [18:12] <Twised_tac0> no i dont now
#640 [18:12] <Smanly> Twised_tac0: ere you double clicking?
#641 [18:12] <Twised_tac0> i can find out thought
#642 [18:12] <Smanly> er wait.
#643 [18:13] <Twised_tac0> double click ?
#644 [18:13] <Smanly> never you mind
#645 [18:13] <Twised_tac0> k
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#647 [18:14] <Tanner_94> Hello
#648 [18:14] <Tanner_94> anyone wanna play survival?
#649 [18:16] <NinjaKirby> Twised: Any joy with locating Firewall software? The Icons in the bottom right system tray usually features it, if any is present.
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#651 [18:16] <Twised_tac0> one sec.
#652 [18:17] <NinjaKirby> Natalya Feudrovna Simonova, a Level 2 Programmer at the GoldenEye Facility.
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#656 [18:22] <Twised_tac0> my dire wall should not be blocking but i dont know but im runing f-secure
#657 [18:22] <Twised_tac0> fir*
#658 [18:22] <Twised_tac0> fire*
#659 [18:23] <NinjaKirby> The website makes me cringe.
#660 [18:23] <Twised_tac0> ?
#661 [18:23] <NinjaKirby> Shouldn't just a book by it's cover, but dayum, that Software could be a problem, lol
#662 [18:24] <NinjaKirby> *Judge, correction
#663 [18:24] <NinjaKirby> Is there any Exit feature? Temporarily close it down, and try connecting to a server again.
#664 [18:24] <Twised_tac0> i have had i on here for about a 1 year now
#665 [18:24] <Twised_tac0> on sec
#666 [18:24] <NinjaKirby> Understood :3
#667 [18:25] <Twised_tac0> ?
#668 [18:25] <NinjaKirby> Never mind, heh
#669 [18:25] <Twised_tac0> so its not a factor
#670 [18:25] <NinjaKirby> Argh, it could be, try shutting it down still, just temporarily.
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#672 [18:26] <NinjaKirby> Your computer will be fine for a few minutes without it.
#673 [18:26] <Twised_tac0> k
#674 [18:26] <Twised_tac0> give me a sec to do it
#675 [18:27] <NinjaKirby> I'm worried it's going to be one of these one's that leaves Background processes running, and ugh
#676 [18:27] <OMG_Crackers> hey my minecraft luncher wont let me login i tryed about everything and ive been searching the internet for a fix but nothing like my issue please help?
#677 [18:28] <Yerg> Login failed?
#678 [18:28] <OMG_Crackers> ya
#679 [18:28] <Twised_tac0> ok i tried of fire wall didnt work
#680 [18:28] <Twised_tac0> :(
#681 [18:28] <Yerg> Means your password is incorrect
#682 [18:28] <Yerg> Try resetting it, OMG_Crackers
#683 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> http://www.thedailydolt.com/2012/09/27/ap-editor-we-had-to-impose-an-upper-quota-on-fact-checking-bachmann-during-republican-debates/
#684 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> Whoops - I mean http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#685 [18:29] <Yerg> Heh
#686 [18:29] <OMG_Crackers> resestting what?
#687 [18:29] <Yerg> Your password
#688 [18:30] <OMG_Crackers> i did cuz i thought i forgot it and it still wont work
#689 [18:30] <NinjaKirby> Twised: Great :/ Disk, I dunno how you do this without seeing the desktop
#690 [18:30] <Twised_tac0> ?
#691 [18:30] <NinjaKirby> Cannot begin to fathom
#692 [18:30] <Twised_tac0> ?
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#694 [18:30] <DiskDaemon> NinjaKirby: It helps if you see visions in your head
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#698 [18:31] <NinjaKirby> Hehe
#699 [18:31] <Twised_tac0> i got a new router and do inned to open a port or somethin :)
#700 [18:31] <Twised_tac0> need*
#701 [18:31] <OMG_Crackers> so
#702 [18:31] <NinjaKirby> Negative, traffic outbound should flow
#703 [18:31] <Twised_tac0> k
#704 [18:31] <DiskDaemon> Twised_tac0: No - that's only relevant if you are hosting your own server
#705 [18:32] <Twised_tac0> so whats next to try :3
#706 [18:32] <Twised_tac0> k
#707 [18:32] <OMG_Crackers> No help?
#708 [18:32] <OMG_Crackers> BRB
#709 [18:32] <Yerg> OMG_Crackers: did you check the right rail?
#710 [18:33] <Yerg> Er right email?
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#713 [18:33] <Twised_tac0> ninjakiroby
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#715 [18:33] <NinjaKirby> Minecraft delivers Unknown Host error message, but you can ping the servers. Firewall is seemingly not blocking traffic.
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#717 [18:34] <NinjaKirby> Even if Windows Firewall was running as well, I haven't heard of it to trip up Minecraft.
#718 [18:34] <Twised_tac0> ?
#719 [18:34] <NinjaKirby> Just dwelling on thoughts.
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#721 [18:34] <DiskDaemon> NinjaKirby: Would a crash report show any information about why it can't find the host?
#722 [18:34] <Twised_tac0> also i can connet on to a tekkit sever when i play that
#723 [18:34] * DiskDaemon tests
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#724 [18:34] <NinjaKirby> Really, the Tekkit client works? But not the Vanilla
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#726 [18:35] <Twised_tac0> yes
#727 [18:35] <DiskDaemon> tekkit and other modded versions are not supported here
#728 [18:35] <OMG_Crackers> yes
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#730 [18:35] <Twised_tac0> i know just throwing it out there
#731 [18:36] <OMG_Crackers> yes i checked the right email ive had the game since 1.2-1.3 beta
#732 [18:36] <Twised_tac0> NinjaKirby what do u think
#733 [18:36] <NinjaKirby> DiskDaemon: Crash report tool would work even if the Client executable doesn't fail? I genuinely don't know
#734 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> Hmm no - the log report only shows a connecting to server message, but no other info whether it's successful or not
#735 [18:37] <NinjaKirby> Oh okay
#736 [18:37] <Twised_tac0> >
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#738 [18:37] <Twised_tac0> ?
#739 [18:37] <NinjaKirby> Is a fresh Java install worth trying at this point -_-
#740 [18:37] <Twised_tac0> yes
#741 [18:37] <NinjaKirby> lol
#742 [18:37] <DiskDaemon> When the server is added to the multiplayer list, does that show that the server is up?
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#744 [18:38] <Twised_tac0> no
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#746 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> Okay, so that's consistant then
#747 [18:40] <NinjaKirby> Is it paranoid to suspect Security Software processes are lingering behind the scenes.
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#749 [18:41] <OMG_Crackers> so i still cant login minecraft luncher and i can log into minecraft.net
#750 [18:41] <NinjaKirby> I just look at that website, and think "Dear God".
#751 [18:41] <DiskDaemon> possibly - the only effective way to test that is to completely disable them
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#753 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> OMG_Crackers - Reset your password
#754 [18:41] <DiskDaemon> How about safe mode + networking?
#755 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Login failed means your password is incorrect
#756 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Or retype it
#757 [18:41] <NinjaKirby> Minecraft can launch properly in that Environment? :3
#758 [18:41] <OMG_Crackers> ok brb
#759 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> I've also seen that login failed message when using an unsupported minecraft launcher
#760 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> NinjaKirby: It can in many situations
#761 [18:42] <NinjaKirby> Huh, Force Update?
#762 [18:42] <Twised_tac0> tried it
#763 [18:42] <NinjaKirby> Ah, okay. It's definitely the launcher from the Minecraft.net website yeah? :P
#764 [18:43] <Twised_tac0> ?
#765 [18:43] <NinjaKirby> The official Minecraft client.
#766 [18:43] <Twised_tac0> yes
#767 [18:43] <NinjaKirby> Fair enough. Ah, tried the Web based version?
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#769 [18:43] <DiskDaemon> Twised_tac0: Here's an idea - go to your firewall program and remove all entries that relate to java. Minecraft should then cause the firewall to prompt you to create new setting when you run it again
#770 [18:44] <XiahouDun1225> Hello.
#771 [18:44] <OMG_Crackers> ok ill try that
#772 [18:44] <Twised_tac0> one sec.
#773 [18:44] <XiahouDun1225> Um everytime I try using ModLoader I get Black Screen. Can anyone help me?
#774 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Did you delete the meta-inf folder when you installed it?
#775 [18:45] <Twised_tac0> it might take a few min.
#776 [18:45] <XiahouDun1225> Yup.
#777 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Did you update to the latest version of modloader?
#778 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Are you using any other mods?
#779 [18:45] <XiahouDun1225> They have it as the download.
#780 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Who has it?
#781 [18:45] <XiahouDun1225> The person who posted it origionally
#782 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> From where did you download modloader from?
#783 [18:46] <XiahouDun1225> The ModLoader post on the forum
#784 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Have you made sure the version of modloader is compatible with your version of minecraft?
#785 [18:46] <OMG_Crackers> still no work
#786 [18:46] <XiahouDun1225> It is said to be compatible with 1.3.2
#787 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> And are you running 1.3.2?
#788 [18:46] <XiahouDun1225> Yes.
#789 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> OMG_Crackers: Can you log in to the website?
#790 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Then I have no idea. Try asking in #risucraft
#791 [18:47] <OMG_Crackers> yes
#792 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> ??> XiahouDun1225 mods
#793 [18:47] <VoxelHead> XiahouDun1225: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#794 [18:47] <VoxelHead> XiahouDun1225: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#795 [18:48] <DiskDaemon> OMG_Crackers: What do you see when you go to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#796 [18:48] <XiahouDun1225> I dunno in their FAQ they were all "Follow instructions on Linux/Other" idfk what the hell that is.
#797 [18:48] <OMG_Crackers> bad login
#798 [18:48] <XiahouDun1225> Can someone point me to it?
#799 [18:48] <NinjaKirby> Twised_tac0: You are finding the Firewall Rules panel okay...? ^^;;
#800 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> OMG_Crackers: Good, that means that Minecraft should be able to contact the login server successfully then
#801 [18:49] <OMG_Crackers> but i cant still?
#802 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> OMG_Crackers: What does the crash report show when it can't log in? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#803 [18:50] <Twised_tac0> one sec im getting new java had version 6
#804 [18:50] <Twised_tac0> then i will do that
#805 [18:50] <XiahouDun1225> Well anyways thanks for the help I guess >3>
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#807 [18:50] <NinjaKirby> Reading the F-Secure FAQ, the latest version of the software actually use the Windows Firewall, and then adds other "enhancements" to it.
#808 [18:51] <Twised_tac0> k
#809 [18:51] <NinjaKirby> I guess you can still control it from F-Secure though, so I'm sure you've done fine ^^
#810 [18:52] <Twised_tac0> yea
#811 [18:54] <OMG_Crackers> nothing it wont even let me play or download the game
#812 [18:54] <OMG_Crackers> it wont login
#813 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> OMG_Crackers - Try www.minecraft.net/play
#814 [18:56] <OMG_Crackers> im trying now its taking longer than it should
#815 [18:57] <OMG_Crackers> it works but i like to use the luncher
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#819 [18:59] <Twised_tac0> one sec. NinjaKirby
#820 [18:59] <NinjaKirby> Red Leader, Standing By
#821 [18:59] <Twised_tac0> lol
#822 [19:00] <Twised_tac0> star wars
#823 [19:00] <OMG_Crackers> so am i able to lunch minecraft normaly
#824 [19:00] <OMG_Crackers> ever*
#825 [19:01] <Twised_tac0> im going to try minecraft now and i force update
#826 [19:01] <Twised_tac0> updated*
#827 [19:01] <NinjaKirby> Hmm, okay, so you removed some of the Rules? F-Secure should pop up some messages when trying to login...
#828 [19:02] <Twised_tac0> ? fire wall
#829 [19:02] <NinjaKirby> Aye
#830 [19:02] <OMG_Crackers> hello
#831 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> OMG_Crackers - All I can say is that "login failed" means the launcher is unable to verify the password is correct with your account. 99% of the time, it's due to a user inputting the wrong password. the other time, it's either an outdated or 3rd party launcher
#832 [19:04] <OMG_Crackers> i put it in right i just redownloaded from minecraft.net
#833 [19:04] <OMG_Crackers> so idk
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#836 [19:05] <Twised_tac0> i have had that problem all i can say is come back and try again another day
#837 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried resetting it via http://minecraft.net/resetpassword ?
#838 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes it can clear it up.
#839 [19:05] <NinjaKirby> Twised: Did you experience any Security popups?
#840 [19:06] <Twised_tac0> no
#841 [19:06] <Twised_tac0> i have nothing to do with java in the firewall block
#842 [19:07] <OMG_Crackers> i tryed it again and it just tried to reload and it couldnt load
#843 [19:08] <Twised_tac0> NinjaKirby
#844 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> That's just... impossible T_T
#845 [19:08] <Twised_tac0> what
#846 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> OMG_Crackers - What couldn't load? The launcher?
#847 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> java.exe and javaw.exe and minecraft.exe, I believe all three would require a Rule.
#848 [19:08] <Twised_tac0> impossible i dont like that word
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#850 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> I am rendered somewhat speechless, lol
#851 [19:09] <Twised_tac0> what if i told you i have this problem on my computer up stais
#852 [19:09] <Twised_tac0> stairs
#853 [19:09] <OMG_Crackers> i restted my password and i submited query and the page load right
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#855 [19:10] <NinjaKirby> Besides suggesting you attack your Router with a crowbar, I'm not really sure.
#856 [19:11] <OMG_Crackers> resetted* - didnt load right*
#857 [19:11] <Twised_tac0> ok this started when i got a new router and when i started play tekkit ]
#858 [19:11] <Twised_tac0> lol crowbar
#859 [19:11] <OMG_Crackers> brb
#860 [19:11] <OMG_Crackers> dinner
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#862 [19:12] <NinjaKirby> I don't understand how it could be the Router though. The only way for that to be the case, would be crappy Router Firmware.
#863 [19:13] <Twised_tac0> do u think it could do something with charter my internet provider
#864 [19:13] <Twised_tac0> ?
#865 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> Unless there is something unique to Network Traffic associated with Minecraft, I don't see why the Router or ISP would block it.
#866 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> What make is your Router?
#867 [19:14] <Twised_tac0> i know
#868 [19:14] <Twised_tac0> ?
#869 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> Please don't be Belkin.
#870 [19:14] <Twised_tac0> ?
#871 [19:14] <CrusaderDeleters> LOL! You hate belkins too?
#872 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> The Manufacturer of your Router
#873 [19:15] <NinjaKirby> Crusader: They are the worst one's we sell, the most returns.
#874 [19:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes. They are.
#875 [19:15] <Twised_tac0> trendnet
#876 [19:15] <CrusaderDeleters> I have both the Adapter, and the Router. I barely get to keep a stable internet access
#877 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> Twised: Well, I'm not really familiar with them, but they seem well established. Could be worth trying a Firmware upgrade if it doesn't do it automatically.
#878 [19:16] <Twised_tac0> ?
#879 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> Also, this Wireless AC standard looks sweet.
#880 [19:16] <Twised_tac0> ?
#881 [19:17] <NinjaKirby> There should be a Model Number on the Router's Sticker, could locate new Firmware on the Trendnet website, and patch it.
#882 [19:17] <Twised_tac0> ?
#883 [19:17] <NinjaKirby> Granted, kinda seems a bit of a longshot, but if all the computers fail and it... coincides...
#884 [19:17] <NinjaKirby> Am I making no sense? ^^;;
#885 [19:17] <Twised_tac0> one sec ill get my dad he does alot with computers
#886 [19:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Twised, make sure you watch him while he fixes your computer! :D You could learn some things from parets.
#887 [19:18] <NinjaKirby> lol, Parrots.
#888 [19:19] <Twised_tac0> lol i now
#889 [19:20] <Twised_tac0> know*
#890 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> What did you call my mum? A Archaeopsittacus of the Psittaciformes Order? You gonna get some mate, gonna knock you out!
#891 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> Don't diss the Neognathae Infraclass.
#892 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> Thanks Wikipedia.
#893 [19:23] <Twised_tac0> hey thanks for all the help even if it dosent work :)
#894 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> lol, we can try again tomorrow.
#895 [19:23] <Twised_tac0> lol
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#899 [19:27] <Twised_tac0> when i run minecraft other computers cant use internet whats that meen
#900 [19:27] <Twised_tac0> mean*
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#902 [19:27] <NinjaKirby> Sure it's not a coincidence? ^^;;
#903 [19:27] <Twised_tac0> ?
#904 [19:28] <Lutzee> If you have a very slow connection and ply on multiplayer servers then you might just be saturating your bandwidth, thus nothing else can connect
#905 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> Would it be worth sharing the results from http://www.speedtest.net/
#906 [19:30] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, "unknow host on all severs", is the error he experiences, so presumably the client can't produce mass traffic
#907 [19:30] <Twised_tac0> ?
#908 [19:30] <NinjaKirby> But Twised, you could do that, be useful to know :)
#909 [19:31] <Twised_tac0> we have 30mg of internet seed
#910 [19:31] <Twised_tac0> but it avrages 27mg
#911 [19:32] <Twised_tac0> hello
#912 [19:33] <NinjaKirby> Nice speeds, Fibre Optic?
#913 [19:34] <Twised_tac0> yes
#914 [19:34] <NinjaKirby> I'm so jelly.
#915 [19:34] <NinjaKirby> I'm so jelly I'm peanut butter and jelly.
#916 [19:35] <Twised_tac0> ping 17 download 48.33 mbps upload4.22 mbps
#917 [19:35] <NinjaKirby> Definitely jellyfish.
#918 [19:35] <Twised_tac0> lol
#919 [19:35] <Lutzee> You're getting what looks to be 50Mbps not 30 :p lucky :p
#920 [19:35] <Twised_tac0> lol again
#921 [19:37] <NinjaKirby> I got too embroiled in the single computer aspect, I'm now a feverent believer it's a Router Firmware issue.
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#923 [19:37] <Twised_tac0> k
#924 [19:37] <gameing123> hey cane someone help me
#925 [19:38] <Twised_tac0> why
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#927 [19:39] <gameing123> i need help with voxelmodpack can anyone help me
#928 [19:40] <gameing123> hello
#929 [19:40] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, despite some extensive efforts, one user failed to get Minecraft port forwarded for a Server with a Trendnet Router.
#930 [19:41] <NinjaKirby> Just saying :3
#931 [19:41] <Twised_tac0> k hope this dosent make a hole in my minecraft fun'
#932 [19:42] <gameing123> cane any see this help me
#933 [19:42] <Twised_tac0> yes
#934 [19:42] <NinjaKirby> Btw, there's always an inherent risk in Firmware updating, if it messes up patching the Routers probably screwed.
#935 [19:42] <NinjaKirby> Hey there gameing123
#936 [19:42] <gameing123> ok
#937 [19:43] <Twised_tac0> now u tell me that :(
#938 [19:43] <gameing123> i need help with voxelmodpack can anyone you know what that is
#939 [19:43] <NinjaKirby> Twised: But it's unlikely, lol, maybe get your dad to have a look into it
#940 [19:43] <Twised_tac0> he is
#941 [19:43] <Twised_tac0> lol
#942 [19:43] <NinjaKirby> Ah lovely
#943 [19:43] <Twised_tac0> isnt lovely
#944 [19:44] <NinjaKirby> Twised: I almost get the impresison you're like a Mystery Shopper, no offense :P
#945 [19:44] <NinjaKirby> lol, it isn't? Aight
#946 [19:44] <Twised_tac0> lol ?
#947 [19:44] <NinjaKirby> gameing123: The VoxelModPack, we usually don't support Mod related issues in here
#948 [19:44] <NinjaKirby> ??> gameing123 Mods
#949 [19:44] <VoxelHead> gameing123: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#950 [19:44] <VoxelHead> gameing123: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#951 [19:45] <NinjaKirby> I can't believe I got that right.
#952 [19:45] <gameing123> but minecraft suports it
#953 [19:45] <gameing123> so it is not a mod u thinking of
#954 [19:46] <gameing123> if minecraft alound it is still a mod
#955 [19:47] <NinjaKirby> It's just Vanilla Minecraft support in here, I can't assist because I've never used that Mod Pack anyway :/
#956 [19:47] <NinjaKirby> Check out VoxelHead's suggestions :)
#957 [19:47] <Twised_tac0> LOL
#958 [19:48] <gameing123> ok ty
#959 [19:48] <gameing123> goodbye
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#961 [19:50] <Twised_tac0> why me
#962 [19:52] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm?
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#964 [19:56] <NinjaKirby> He was in here for like, almost 3 hours. The way he sorted out his Firewall Rules and stuff too, it's like he was a Mystery Shopper equivalent.
#965 [19:57] <NinjaKirby> Nice person though XD
#966 [19:58] <NinjaKirby> Nothing like some BrodyQuest to alleviate the stress of the day.
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#970 [20:00] <OMG_Crackers> back so how can i fix my luncher for minecraft so i can login
#971 [20:03] <NinjaKirby> Is it still a matter of, being able to login to the Website, but not the Client?
#972 [20:04] <DiskDaemon> OMG_Crackers: Have you provided us with the text log from when you attempt to login? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#973 [20:05] <Coll> Where does one go about looking for a plugin dev?
#974 [20:06] <DiskDaemon> Coll: A plugin for what?
#975 [20:06] <DiskDaemon> Coll: For a modded version of Minecraft (tekkit, bukkit, etc..) or creating a mod for minecraft?
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#977 [20:06] <Coll> for a bukkit server
#978 [20:06] <Coll> didnt want to really go into detail since you guys dont support that
#979 [20:06] <OMG_Crackers> how do i give u it it world spam this screen
#980 [20:06] <DiskDaemon> Coll: Go to #bukkit
#981 [20:07] <Coll> I have
#982 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> ??> OMG_Crackers pastebin
#983 [20:07] <VoxelHead> OMG_Crackers: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#984 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> Coll: That's the official IRC location for them. http://wiki.bukkit.org/IRC
#985 [20:08] <Coll> yes I know where they are
#986 [20:08] <Coll> They just arent realy responsive to it only got two inquiries and then they stopped communicating after that
#987 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> Coll: #bukkitdev is for devs, but I'm not usre if they take requests from people
#988 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> *sure
#989 [20:09] <Coll> hmm
#990 [20:09] <OMG_Crackers> http://pastebin.com/sx9RWU6U this is it
#991 [20:09] <Coll> someone told me to go there
#992 [20:09] <Coll> I can go back to the other channel then
#993 [20:10] <DiskDaemon> omg: I see "sun.security.validator.ValidatorException"
#994 [20:10] <DiskDaemon> OMG_Crackers: That seems to imply that your time/date may be wrong
#995 [20:10] <OMG_Crackers> Hu
#996 [20:11] <OMG_Crackers> no its right?
#997 [20:11] <Lutzee> Make sure the time on your PC is the correct time for your timeone
#998 [20:11] <Lutzee> timezone*
#999 [20:11] <OMG_Crackers> it is?
#1000 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> The full reason why it can't login is: "sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target"
#1001 [20:12] <Coll> not sure why having the incorrect time would error you
#1002 [20:12] <DiskDaemon> So now we know why. Now it's just a matter of working out what to do about it
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#1004 [20:12] <OMG_Crackers> could a viruse cause this
#1005 [20:12] <DiskDaemon> Coll: Security certificates use the time/date as a part of their generation
#1006 [20:13] <Coll> oh
#1007 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> OMG_Crackers: Do you have ESET installed?
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#1009 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> OMG_Crackers: This thread shows the same problem you have, which was solved by uninstalling ESET http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1266137-solved-can-not-log-in-cant-connect-to-minecraftnet/
#1010 [20:13] <OMG_Crackers> ESET whats that?
#1011 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> dang
#1012 [20:14] <NinjaKirby> Oh nooo! I don't like this vibe ESET's getting, god damnit, lol, I'm such a supporter for it
#1013 [20:16] <OMG_Crackers> i have kaspersky
#1014 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> OMG_Crackers: Temporarily disable that, uninstall if you have to, and then try again. If you can then log in, you know what's causing the issue. Install it again and attempts to have both play nicely together can be achieved
#1015 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> This person with kaspersky has the same problem, for example. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/939149-launcher-magic-launcher-099-mods-options-news/page__st__2840#entry16496160
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#1017 [20:18] <NinjaKirby> Nuke the Processes into the Gates of Oblivion
#1018 [20:18] <Kman1> i have a dumb nooby question
#1019 [20:18] <NinjaKirby> Hello Kman1 ^^
#1020 [20:18] <Kman1> how do i make bread
#1021 [20:19] <Kman1> hello
#1022 [20:19] <NinjaKirby> 3 Wheat (acquired from crop growing) horizontally across the work bench
#1023 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> Kman1: With wheat
#1024 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bread
#1025 [20:19] <Kman1> ik it was with wheat i just didnt know the craft recipie
#1026 [20:19] <Kman1> thanks
#1027 [20:20] <NinjaKirby> We should get a Bot similar to Voxel that handles Wiki article commands, t'would be awesome
#1028 [20:20] <NinjaKirby> Granted, seldom used, but awesome.
#1029 [20:20] <DiskDaemon> Something like this? !wiki bread
#1030 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> Which would then give you the link that's most relevant to it?
#1031 [20:21] <NinjaKirby> Indeed, this is amicable.
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#1033 [20:21] <NinjaKirby> Yeah, I guess, maybe an argument modifier to bring the Recipe description, lol
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#1035 [20:21] <NinjaKirby> !wiki-recipe Bread
#1036 [20:22] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread
#1037 [20:22] <GreyBot> Bread is a staple food prepared by cooking a dough of flour and water and often additional ingredients.
#1038 [20:22] <NinjaKirby> Whoa, what?!
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#1040 [20:22] <OMG_Crackers> ok i got a better thing to do put minecraft/java in the trusted zone/ exclusion
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#1045 [20:29] <OMG_Crackers> its the kaspersky
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#1049 [20:34] <DiskDaemon> OMG_Crackers: That's great to hear. Now that you know what's causing the problem, investigations in to how to best deal with it can occur.
#1050 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> Possible solutions are to make enquiries with a kaspersky forum, or to use some other security program that causes less troubles
#1051 [20:35] <OMG_Crackers> im trying to get it to not block my java but ya whats the url that minecraft needs to go through to login
#1052 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> I believe that it's login.minecraft.net
#1053 [20:43] <Lutzee> OMG_Crackers: Out of curiosity what version/product line of kaspersky?
#1054 [20:43] * Lutzee uses kaspersky pure 2.0
#1054 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> Lutzee: paid/free/trial sort of thing?
#1055 [20:43] <Lutzee> Mine is purchased
#1056 [20:44] <OMG_Crackers> kaspersky pure 2.0
#1057 [20:46] <Lutzee> Hmm odd then, i have no problems, are you on an administrator account on your PC?
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#1059 [20:48] <OMG_Crackers> yes
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#1061 [20:49] <OMG_Crackers> i might have not upgraded right cuz i had a free upgrade from 1.0 but idk
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#1063 [20:52] <OMG_Crackers> im going to try upgrade my kaspersky to make sure
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#1065 [20:54] <awesomebro> i have forgot my minecraft password
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#1067 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#1068 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> another happy customer
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#1072 [20:58] <mattym> hello all, just wanted to ask if anyone else using the weekly snapshots had a similar problem as me
#1073 [20:58] <mattym> it seems that the game crashes and my save file gets corrupted every time i place a minecart on a track
#1074 [20:59] <Lutzee> Could be a bug, snapshots aren't perfect as they are development builds.
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#1077 [20:59] <DiskDaemon> mattym: Please don't use the snapshots with any worlds that you care about
#1078 [21:00] <mattym> yeah but i looked all over the wiki page and no one else seems to have reported it
#1079 [21:00] <DragonHunter1213> I need help!
#1080 [21:00] <mattym> was wondering if it could have something to do with my setup somehow
#1081 [21:00] <DragonHunter1213> Why wouldn't the purchase go through
#1082 [21:00] <Lutzee> DragonHunter1213: What is the problem?
#1083 [21:00] <mattym> DiskDaemon i have backups :)
#1084 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> Dragonene: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1085 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> Dragonene: pardon
#1086 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> DragonHunter1213: See above
#1087 [21:01] <Lutzee> DragonHunter1213: there can be a lot of reasons, but the first to check is that your bank is not blocking the payment, so phone them
#1088 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> mattym: You're welcome to report the problem on the bugs page for the snapshot then - that's what it's there for
#1089 [21:02] <mattym> that was my next step, i just wanted to see if anyone else had a similar issue
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#1091 [21:02] <DragonHunter1213> Well, I have a debit card visa that was purchased from Target
#1092 [21:03] <Lutzee> Ah..
#1093 [21:03] <DragonHunter1213> it works like a credit card. So is there a number that I could possibly contact?
#1094 [21:03] <Lutzee> Prepaid cards have a lot of problems.. it's better to use a proper credit card, if not use paypal
#1095 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> DragonHunter1213: Those cards are most commonly prevented from making overseas transactions
#1096 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> DragonHunter1213: Mojang are in Sweden, which I guess would be considered as being overseas from where you are
#1097 [21:04] <mattym> Sometimes it takes a while for the payment to process, when i bought a gift code once, it took like a week
#1098 [21:04] <DragonHunter1213> okay
#1099 [21:04] <DragonHunter1213> thanks
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#1101 [21:11] <mattym> Hmm, i finally found a reference to it in an older snapshot bug list
#1102 [21:11] <mattym> Seems like it could be an issue with the games need for more memory
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#1105 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> That could be an issue. I currently play Minecraft with a fixed amount of 256 meg for the game
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#1107 [21:18] <mattym> i tried giving it more and it doesnt seems to help yet
#1108 [21:19] <mattym> hopefully it gets fixed, but it does seem to be an issue that only some people have
#1109 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> So if it's thought to be a lack of memory, and giving it more memory doesnt fix the issue, does that mean that the initial thought may not be relevant?
#1110 [21:20] <mattym> well due to the fact that i dont have a lot of memory on this PC i cant really test it too well
#1111 [21:20] <mattym> and if it is an issue that not everyone is having, there are only a few things it can be
#1112 [21:21] <mattym> i have another computer that ill test it out on later
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#1115 [21:24] <ThomQ> hi all
#1116 [21:24] <mattym> hey
#1117 [21:26] <ThomQ> im about to play my first game of Dwarves vs Zombies. They use a lot of enchanted potions in that that they throw on the ground.. When you throw such a bottle, is it affecting everyone thats near it?
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#1119 [21:27] <mattym> If its using the standard game settings then yes
#1120 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> ThomQ: I've no idea about the mod (we don't deal with them here) but my guess is that it's a splash potion that affects things within a block or two of where it lands
#1121 [21:28] <tphgangster> Is there an easy or fast way to prevent Taint from spreading?
#1122 [21:28] * tphgangster is now known as PathosesNorms
#1123 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> What on earth is Taint?
#1124 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> ??> tphgangster mods
#1125 [21:29] <VoxelHead> tphgangster: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1126 [21:29] <VoxelHead> tphgangster: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1127 [21:29] <PathosesNorms> yeah
#1128 [21:29] <PathosesNorms> i have the Tekkit mod
#1129 [21:29] <PathosesNorms> ut ill move over to there channel
#1130 [21:29] <PathosesNorms> tanks anyway
#1131 [21:29] <PathosesNorms> ut == but
#1132 [21:33] <ThomQ> Thanks guys :)
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#1134 [21:43] <NinjaKirby> My spreadsheet skills suck, I can't work out how to perform an operation T_T
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#1136 [21:44] <mattym> im sure google can find you some sort of excell tutorial
#1137 [21:44] <NinjaKirby> Dpending on the answer, I need to adjust a portion of the calculation itself though, rather then human intervention.
#1138 [21:45] <NinjaKirby> Did a little googling, VLOOKUP has saved me a lot of work, but this is just taxing.
#1139 [21:45] <NinjaKirby> I think it's just determining implementation, per say.
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#1141 [21:45] <blkgrim> yeah um i tried to get a minimap but when i went to the mincraft. jar it tells me that " a java exception has occured" how do i get passed that?
#1142 [21:46] <mattym> this is not the channel for that, but what you need is an archive program to open the jar with
#1143 [21:46] <mattym> try 7zip
#1144 [21:47] <blkgrim> ok how do i get that
#1145 [21:47] <mattym> google 7zip and download the correct version for your operating system
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#1148 [21:48] <blkgrim> ok thank u
#1149 [21:48] <mattym> once its installed you can right click the jar and open the archive
#1150 [21:49] <mattym> dont extract it, that will just waist your time
#1151 [21:50] <blkgrim> ok
#1152 [21:50] <mattym> waste*
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#1155 [21:59] <NinjaKirby> Argh, this is impossible, if I could use "If Else Then" I'd be rolling.
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#1157 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> NinjaKirby: Perhaps I can help with your spreadsheet calculation dilemma
#1158 [22:00] <NinjaKirby> It's not really... like... important, lol, and it's a little difficult to explain
#1159 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> if/elseif/else for example: IF( condition1, value_if_true1, IF( condition2, value_if_true2, value_if_false2 ))
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#1161 [22:01] <NinjaKirby> Can condition1 be a Greater or Lesser then check?
#1162 [22:01] <NinjaKirby> Can condition1 be a Greater or Lesser then check?
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#1164 [22:01] <NinjaKirby> Comparing Cell values
#1165 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> yes it can
#1166 [22:02] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, actually, with that approach I would need to Cell count. And also compared an entire table.
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#1168 [22:03] <NinjaKirby> I have two numbers that grow over time, one faster then another, and I need to determine the number of days until the lesser value exceeds the higher.
#1169 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> There may be better solutions, if more information n the problem is availale
#1170 [22:04] <NinjaKirby> The only way I have it right now, is putting a number in a Cell manually, trying repeatedly till I find the days
#1171 [22:04] <NinjaKirby> *Correct number of days, and the other cells tilt to represent that. If that makes sense.
#1172 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> I thought that excel has something designed to apply to situations like that
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#1174 [22:05] <NinjaKirby> Probably XD I am using Calc usually... but this is an even more odd circumstance, through Google Docs
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#1176 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> But regardless of that, what's the math that relates to what you're comparing. Perhaps calculus can be of some help here?
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#1179 [22:05] <NinjaKirby> Oh lord, maybe?
#1180 [22:06] * Eddie spreads his sheets for NinjaKirby
#1180 [22:06] <DiskDaemon> It's otherwise quiet around here - bring on the math :)
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#1182 [22:07] <NinjaKirby> I don't usually do spreadsheets as you can tell, not entirely sure how to lay it out clearly.
#1183 [22:07] <NinjaKirby> Pseudo-method I guess
#1184 [22:07] <NinjaKirby> Tell you what, want to see the Spreadsheet and the formula's? It's live and viewable, lol
#1185 [22:08] <NinjaKirby> Then you'll realise how meaningless it all is as well
#1186 [22:08] <DiskDaemon> sure
#1187 [22:08] <NinjaKirby> I'd feel bad exposing you to all this though, it's not exactly fun for everyone
#1188 [22:09] <NinjaKirby> Am I okay to PM you?
#1189 [22:10] <Eddie> You may Prime Minister him.
#1190 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> sure
#1191 [22:10] <NinjaKirby> lol?
#1192 [22:10] <Eddie> o/
#1193 [22:12] <NinjaKirby> His probably face palming right now, at the purpose of the Spreadsheet
#1194 [22:12] <NinjaKirby> ... *He's, I hate that error
#1195 [22:12] <DiskDaemon> NinjaKirby: Come on over to #psy so we can discuss this in more depth
#1196 [22:12] <NinjaKirby> lol
#1197 [22:13] <Eddie> Come on down! You're our next contestant on the Price is Right!
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#1200 [22:16] <michealfuller30> how long is it gonna take to get my accont back up
#1201 [22:18] <michealfuller30> how long is it gonna take to get my accont back up
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#1203 [22:23] <michealfuller30> how long is it gonna take to get my accont back up
#1204 [22:24] <Wurg> michealfuller30: wait for your answer, don't go in and out and say it 15 times
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#1206 [22:24] <Wurg> you haven't described your problem, only asked a vague question. what issue are you having
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#1208 [22:26] <michealfuller30> is telling me to use my email an than it says its wrong an it wont let me use my users name
#1209 [22:27] <Aya> when I try to load the demo, it stops on "Updating Minecraft: Done Loading" and I've tried pretty much everything. and no, I don't have AVG
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#1212 [22:29] <Aya> yes, I have turned off my firewall and antivirus, even though it's just microsoft security essentials. updated java. deleted .minecraft even though it's completely empty
#1213 [22:29] <Twised_tac0> ninjakirby
#1214 [22:30] <Twised_tac0> the updata crashed my router
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#1216 [22:31] <NinjaKirby> Twised: So there was a new Firmware available? Sounds silly, but it was definitely for that Model?
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#1218 [22:32] <Twised_tac0> so not doing that again
#1219 [22:32] <NinjaKirby> That's pretty unlucky, the chances of that happening is like, Lottery winning.
#1220 [22:32] <Twised_tac0> lol
#1221 [22:33] <Twised_tac0> so my dad went out and got the same model
#1222 [22:33] <NinjaKirby> Is the new Router the same model? And if not, the same problem still persists?!
#1223 [22:33] <NinjaKirby> lol, seriously -_-
#1224 [22:33] <Twised_tac0> ya
#1225 [22:33] <NinjaKirby> I pray it shipped with the latest firmware
#1226 [22:34] <Twised_tac0> so i try didnt work :(
#1227 [22:34] <Twised_tac0> im on another computer though
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#1229 [22:34] <Twised_tac0> :(
#1230 [22:35] <NinjaKirby> I still feel like I'm being mystery shopped.
#1231 [22:35] <Twised_tac0> ?
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#1233 [22:35] <NinjaKirby> Never mind, well, I guess I shouldn't suggest anything else, before I blow up your Computer
#1234 [22:35] <Twised_tac0> i dont now what to do
#1235 [22:35] <NinjaKirby> But for the record, Firmware updates are generally pretty safe -_-
#1236 [22:36] <Twised_tac0> i think its time to make some phone calls around see what i dig up
#1237 [22:36] <Twised_tac0> i know
#1238 [22:36] <Twised_tac0> we use to do them alot on old router
#1239 [22:37] <michealfuller30> woho u tlkin oto
#1240 [22:37] <michealfuller30> who u talking to
#1241 [22:37] <Twised_tac0> me
#1242 [22:37] <michealfuller30> are u guys gonna help me!
#1243 [22:37] <Twised_tac0> what
#1244 [22:37] <Twised_tac0> is wrong
#1245 [22:37] <michealfuller30> i cant get into my accout
#1246 [22:37] <Twised_tac0> ?
#1247 [22:38] <Twised_tac0> is it the password or is it say failed log
#1248 [22:38] <michealfuller30> it say to use my email than it say its worng than it wont let me use my user name
#1249 [22:39] <Twised_tac0> im here for the help too so dont feel bad if i have so many problems
#1250 [22:40] <michealfuller30> ya
#1251 [22:40] <Twised_tac0> ninjakibry did you say something about a guy who had the same router brad and it didnt work
#1252 [22:41] <NinjaKirby> It wasn't the same scenario, but regardless of tireless efforts his portforwarding, mysteriously, failed to allow his Minecraft Server to go public.
#1253 [22:42] <NinjaKirby> And it was the same brand, possibly make(?) of Router.
#1254 [22:42] <NinjaKirby> Erm, Model, not make.
#1255 [22:42] <Twised_tac0> i dont know
#1256 [22:43] <NinjaKirby> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/301875-need-help-cant-find-solution-port-forwarding/
#1257 [22:43] <Twised_tac0> i might call them though
#1258 [22:43] <Twised_tac0> its just like who did it come to be me of all people
#1259 [22:44] <Twised_tac0> how*
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#1262 [22:46] <Wurg> michealfuller30: you are logging in with your email address right? Migrated accounts use email address and password
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#1264 [22:47] <Twised_tac0> NinjaKirby it might be the model then and i dont want go look got school
#1265 [22:47] <NinjaKirby> Won the lottery twice
#1266 [22:47] <Twised_tac0> me
#1267 [22:48] <NinjaKirby> Sorry ^^;; It might be... especially as all the computers suffer the problem, somehow java related traffic, or that port number, is derping on the Router.
#1268 [22:48] <michealfuller30> its keep telling me it wrong
#1269 [22:48] <NinjaKirby> But Tekkit works, which is bizarre.
#1270 [22:49] <Twised_tac0> i know it just ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh rage :(
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#1272 [22:49] <Wurg> michealfuller30: can you login to mojang.com
#1273 [22:49] <daveownsyou> hi ive started a server for freinds to play on and i whenever someone tries to join i get this 192.168.0.150:54025 lost connection over and over again
#1274 [22:50] <daveownsyou> plz help im desperate
#1275 [22:50] <michealfuller30> it wont let me into none of it
#1276 [22:50] <Wurg> what error does the remote client get
#1277 [22:50] <Twised_tac0> we are all desperate for help that fixes everthing
#1278 [22:50] <Wurg> :senduser > michealfuller30
#1279 [22:50] <WugBot> michealfuller30: (senduser) You can retrieve all minecraft accounts registered using your email address using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
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#1281 [22:50] <NinjaKirby> daveownsyou: Your friends over the Internet wouldn't be able to use that IP Address, if that's what is occuring.
#1282 [22:51] <daveownsyou> no they use my external
#1283 [22:51] <Andrio> He wouldn't get 'Lost connection' though, if that was the problem
#1284 [22:51] <NinjaKirby> Ah, fair enough
#1285 [22:51] <Andrio> daveownsyou, are you running the correct version of the server?
#1286 [22:51] <michealfuller30> how do u reset my email on my account
#1287 [22:51] <Wurg> daveownsyou: what error does the remote client get
#1288 [22:51] <daveownsyou> yeah ive tried 1.3.1 and 1.3.2
#1289 [22:52] <daveownsyou> srry what the remote client
#1290 [22:52] <Andrio> what version of Minecraft do the people who try to join have?
#1291 [22:52] <NinjaKirby> Twised_tac0: For the sake of testing at this point, have you run the Minecraft client in administrative mode?
#1292 [22:52] <Wurg> michealfuller30: you can't. Figure out what email address you used for the account with the retrievename page
#1293 [22:53] <Wurg> :senduser > michealfuller30
#1294 [22:53] <WugBot> michealfuller30: (senduser) You can retrieve all minecraft accounts registered using your email address using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#1295 [22:53] <Wurg> daveownsyou: the remote client is other people connecting
#1296 [22:53] <daveownsyou> they have 1.3.2
#1297 [22:53] <Wurg> are they getting an error message
#1298 [22:53] <daveownsyou> they get connection timed out
#1299 [22:53] <Wurg> make sure your router is forwarding ports to the right address
#1300 [22:53] <daveownsyou> it is ports are open
#1301 [22:54] <Wurg> did you check or are you just saying that
#1302 [22:54] <Wurg> ;check daveownsyou
#1303 [22:54] <WugBot> CPE0026f32bce58-CM0026f32bce55.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/20)
#1304 [22:54] <daveownsyou> i did check
#1305 [22:54] <Wurg> it appears to be working
#1306 [22:54] <Twised_tac0> NinjaKirby it is a new model but doesnt work:(
#1307 [22:54] <Wurg> make sure theyre connecting to the right ip address
#1308 [22:54] <daveownsyou> i used port checkers
#1309 [22:54] <Wurg> ;ip daveownsyou
#1310 [22:54] <WugBot> IP address of daveownsyou is: 99.247.229.133
#1311 [22:55] <daveownsyou> yeah they use that one
#1312 [22:55] <NinjaKirby> Twised: (Still assuming it IS a Firmware thing) It may have shipped with the same firmware
#1313 [22:55] <Twised_tac0> i give up :(
#1314 [22:55] <Wurg> daveownsyou: the bot can connect just fine, I'm not sure what's wrong if they can't connect
#1315 [22:55] <NinjaKirby> Twised: Did you try Running Minecraft.exe with Admin Privilages btw? I've not heard it required before, mind
#1316 [22:56] <Wurg> make sure they're typing it right
#1317 [22:56] <Wurg> NinjaKirby: tabcomplete?
#1318 [22:56] <daveownsyou> what do u mean the bot
#1319 [22:56] <Wurg> :bot
#1320 [22:56] <WugBot> bot: I am a bot and cannot help you on my own. Except if you ask me certain questions to which I know the answers. Otherwise, ask someone for help who does not have "bot" in their name.
#1321 [22:56] <daveownsyou> srry im noob
#1322 [22:56] <Twised_tac0> one sec
#1323 [22:56] <NinjaKirby> Wurg: Never got into the habit of using it, working on it though ^^;;
#1324 [22:57] <NinjaKirby> Twised_tac0: Right click the Client, "Run as Admin", hopefully you are logged in as an Admin in Windows
#1325 [22:57] <daveownsyou> after 192.168.0.150:54025 lost connection it sais connection reset
#1326 [22:58] <Wurg> daveownsyou: you wouldn't be getting any connections at all from 192.168.0.150
#1327 [22:58] <daveownsyou> hmm
#1328 [22:58] <Wurg> and the bot can connect to your server just fine
#1329 [22:58] <Twised_tac0> NinjaKirby ive got to go i have been at it for 4 hours ill be back though ;)
#1330 [22:58] <Wurg> the people who are connecting must be doing something silly
#1331 [22:58] <NinjaKirby> Twised_tac0: Okay man, take care, and good work :)
#1332 [22:58] <daveownsyou> k
#1333 [22:58] <Twised_tac0> k bye
#1334 [22:59] <Twised_tac0> tac0 out
#1335 [22:59] <daveownsyou> even when i try to connect to it using my external it sais that
#1336 [22:59] <daveownsyou> i type it right
#1337 [22:59] <Wurg> daveownsyou: its not surprising that it does it when you try it. You're on the lan, you'd need to use a local ip
#1338 [22:59] <daveownsyou> kk
#1339 [23:01] <daveownsyou> alright it worked thx everyone
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#1341 [23:02] <Wurg> daveownsyou: haha ok
#1342 [23:02] <daveownsyou> u guys are awsome
#1343 [23:02] <daveownsyou> peace out
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#1351 [23:39] <PathosesNorms> can i move my current local world to a server?
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#1354 [23:39] <Andrio> Yeah, just copy and paste the world folder.
#1355 [23:40] <PathosesNorms> excellent
#1356 [23:40] <PathosesNorms> and im guessing a server dont need much of computer to run?
#1357 [23:41] <Andrio> You'll also need to change the server.properties to load the new world, but apart from that, you don't really have to do anything.
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#1359 [23:41] <PathosesNorms> have an old MacBook that im thinking of using
#1360 [23:41] <Andrio> you probably will need a decent computer to run a server.
#1361 [23:41] <Andrio> Preferably not a laptop.
#1362 [23:41] <puffrfish> your internet connection usually matters more
#1363 [23:42] <PathosesNorms> if other join my server, will they get another spawnpoint or is everyone spawning at the same place?
#1364 [23:42] <Andrio> hmm
#1365 [23:42] <Andrio> I'm not sure on that.
#1366 [23:42] <Andrio> Everyone will spawn in the same place by default.
#1367 [23:42] <PathosesNorms> yeah, th emacbok will only be untill i find a better whay and somwere to place it
#1368 [23:42] <PathosesNorms> ah, ok
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#1371 [23:48] <Hcoff5250> Hello
#1372 [23:49] <Hcoff5250> ANYone?
#1373 [23:49] <Andrio> Hello
#1374 [23:49] <Hcoff5250> Are u admin?
#1375 [23:49] <Hcoff5250> or support team?
#1376 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> Hi there
#1377 [23:50] <Hcoff5250> Is anyone here part of the supposrt team?
#1378 [23:50] <Hcoff5250> support*
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#1381 [23:50] <Hcoff5250> ok
#1382 [23:50] <Hcoff5250> Can you help me with servers?
#1383 [23:51] <DiskDaemon> That might be possible
#1384 [23:51] <DiskDaemon> Yes, I can help with some server issues
#1385 [23:52] <DiskDaemon> There are some server issues that I can't help with too, which I have no trouble in admitting when they occur
#1386 [23:52] <Hcoff5250> ok...
#1387 [23:53] <Hcoff5250> So a couple days ago i created a bukkit cmd console server, now my wifi/tv/router reset during power outage...now no-one can join even me
#1388 [23:53] <Hcoff5250> i cant even join
#1389 [23:53] <Hcoff5250> and the bukkit CMD says its fine
#1390 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> Hcoff5250: Please take bukkit issues to the #bukkit channel
#1391 [23:54] <Andrio> this might not be Bukkit specific.
#1392 [23:54] <Hcoff5250> its technically not a bukkit issue
#1393 [23:54] <Andrio> Can you join from the same computer?
#1394 [23:55] <Hcoff5250> Bukkit is fine, and no i cant, even though me and people joined the past couple days
#1395 [23:55] <Hcoff5250> we cant now since router restart
#1396 [23:55] <Andrio> Have you tried restarting the server?
#1397 [23:56] <Hcoff5250> yes
#1398 [23:56] <Hcoff5250> lots of times
#1399 [23:56] <DiskDaemon> Is it possible that the router settings were reset back to default?
#1400 [23:57] <Hcoff5250> probably, how would i fix that?
#1401 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> If that's the case, the port forwarding may need to be performed again, to allow the minecraft multiplayer packets through to the server
#1402 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> http://portforward.com/
#1403 [23:58] <Hcoff5250> my router isnt listed on there...
#1404 [23:58] <michealfuller30> i cant get into my email address in this game it there any way it can be change?
#1405 [23:58] <Hcoff5250> but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i can type the default ip into the adress bar and then i think i can port foward it that way
#1406 [23:59] <DiskDaemon> michealfuller30: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#1407 [23:59] <Hcoff5250> brb if i neeed more help, thanks
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