#1 [00:00] <Pyro> and besides
#2 [00:00] <Wug> no, that would be pms
#3 [00:00] <Pyro> im chilling in here to be on the up and up
#4 [00:00] <juless> O wel its been nice talking to you in south texas
#5 [00:00] <Pyro> oh you ditching me?
#6 [00:00] <juless> I dont want to do the wrong thing and talk her
#7 [00:00] <Pyro> was gonna explain the difference between a gulf beach and an ocean beach
#8 [00:00] <juless> there
#9 [00:01] <juless> Ok but what about wug
#10 [00:01] <Pyro> im pretty sure theres no rules against idle conversation in the help chat
#11 [00:01] <Pyro> but i could be wrong... wug?
#12 [00:01] <Pyro> *hmm*
#13 [00:01] <juless> where are the rules posted
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#15 [00:01] <Wug> they're in the topic
#16 [00:02] <Pyro> explain like i'm 3
#17 [00:02] <TheNoodle> Pretty sure an op telling you to stop chatting counts as a rule
#18 [00:02] <juless> I dont see a list of rules
#19 [00:02] <juless> is wog an op
#20 [00:02] <Wug> The rule in question is: "- Conversations involving minecraft assistance take precedence in the channel. Please keep all idle or off-topic discussions to a minimum when assistance is being rendered."
#21 [00:02] <Pyro> "nor i," said the fly
#22 [00:02] <juless> wug
#23 [00:02] <Pyro> well we were within protocol then
#24 [00:02] <juless> oh wher can I find this list please
#25 [00:02] <Pyro> was only me and juless
#26 [00:03] <Pyro> and yeah i would like that rulebook too
#27 [00:03] <Wug> So I guess you can continue your discussion up to he point that somebody needs help
#28 [00:03] <Pyro> i'll clap the trap when someone asks for assistance
#29 [00:03] <juless> well I would but now Im worried
#30 [00:03] <Pyro> juless
#31 [00:03] <Pyro> top left corner of the chatbox
#32 [00:03] <Pyro> "Rules: http://is.gd/zB1w9I
#33 [00:03] <Pyro> just saw it :)
#34 [00:04] <Pyro> hey noodle, that mic beside your name mean you can talk?
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#37 [00:05] <juless> Ok well there you go I read it
#38 [00:06] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
#39 [00:06] <TheNoodle> Technically it just means I can talk when the channel is muted.
#40 [00:06] <juless> and we are within the rules as no assistance was being rendered
#41 [00:06] <Pyro> hey about the profanity
#42 [00:06] <juless> so pyro wat server do you play on
#43 [00:06] <TheNoodle> juless, just stop aruging.
#44 [00:07] <Pyro> i saw nothing in the book about profanity besides excess
#45 [00:07] <TheNoodle> *arguing
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#47 [00:07] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
#48 [00:07] <juless> I am not arguing I was stating a fact
#49 [00:07] <Pyro> and jules wasnt arguing noodle, he was just asking for clarification
#50 [00:07] <Pyro> or something like that
#51 [00:07] <Pyro> anyways
#52 [00:07] <juless> and I did no profanity ??
#53 [00:07] <Wug> go back to talking about muscles or whatever
#54 [00:07] <Pyro> i said shit or something like that
#55 [00:08] <Pyro> we were drifting all over the conversation
#56 [00:08] <Pyro> but yeah i dont have a server yet
#57 [00:08] <Pyro> first time tryting to play in months
#58 [00:09] <juless> well better say shoot
#59 [00:09] <Pyro> was gonna join this small 30man server but i'm open to suggestions.
#60 [00:09] <Pyro> i like small servers instead of those big business type servers
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#62 [00:09] <juless> I have a few I play on
#63 [00:09] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
#64 [00:09] <juless> yeah all pretty small
#65 [00:10] <juless> I wonder about the latency though from where you are
#66 [00:10] <Pyro> "The use of harassing language, slurs, excessive obscenity [does this mean just keep profanity to a minimum?] , and invectives including but not limited to genetic or cultural heritage, creed, sexual preference, or country of origin will not be tolerated."
#67 [00:10] <Pyro> gimme an ip and i'll tell you
#68 [00:11] <juless> I play on one which is in Austria and its annoying
#69 [00:11] <Pyro> how is it annoying?
#70 [00:11] <minty-one> i have that stupid done loading screen will someone help
#71 [00:11] <juless> the lagg
#72 [00:12] <Pyro> you mean when you first login, minty-one?
#73 [00:12] <juless> hey minty one
#74 [00:12] <Pyro> or do you mean loading the map
#75 [00:12] <minty-one> yes when i first log in
#76 [00:12] <juless> mojang servers are down
#77 [00:12] <Pyro> you're probably getting some connection issues with the mojang server. its a global thing
#78 [00:12] <juless> read the Greybot
#79 [00:12] <Pyro> multiplayer is conpletely down from what i've seen so far
#80 [00:13] <minty-one> it has to be the way i am trying to open it i have tried oracle java and open jdk
#81 [00:13] <Pyro> redownload the minecraft.exe file
#82 [00:13] <juless> oh I dont know what stupid done loading is
#83 [00:13] <juless> oh are you on linux
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#85 [00:13] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
#86 [00:14] <Pyro> so explain the problem, when you click the "login" button, after the news feed loads
#87 [00:14] <juless> what OS
#88 [00:14] <minty-one> yes im on linux
#89 [00:14] <Pyro> oh linux
#90 [00:14] <prototype151> I know there is no official eta but what are we talkin here?
#91 [00:14] <juless> I run mint 13 cinamon
#92 [00:14] <Pyro> a day or two at most prototype
#93 [00:14] <prototype151> ight
#94 [00:14] <Pyro> its Amazon's fault, not Mojang
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#96 [00:15] <Pyro> no scripting problems or anything
#97 [00:15] <Pyro> just amazon havin problems
#98 [00:15] <Pyro> they fix themselves quickly tho, seeing as its a massive website
#99 [00:15] <juless> of coures minty one mint haha
#100 [00:15] <juless> so which mint have you got
#101 [00:15] <minty-one> 13
#102 [00:15] <Pyro> spearmint
#103 [00:15] <prototype151> So ur saying that I should expect a day? Because that would mean I would actually have to do my homework...
#104 [00:16] <prototype151> goddam u people
#105 [00:16] <juless> open jdk I use
#106 [00:16] <juless> im on 12 right now
#107 [00:16] <Pyro> call it a gift from above, minecraft is helping with your decision to do homework today
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#110 [00:16] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
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#112 [00:16] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
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#114 [00:16] <Smanly> ok, so maybe not right back.
#115 [00:16] <Smanly> I had to go move in/ put together a couch...
#116 [00:16] <juless> well Pyro I have to go I got housework to do
#117 [00:17] <prototype151> A gift from above... my ass. Me know wanna do any physics homework
#118 [00:17] <Pyro> alright juless, its been fun
#119 [00:17] <juless> minty one best get onto a linux help channel
#120 [00:17] <Pyro> is there some way to add friends in minecraft?
#121 [00:17] <Smanly> Nope
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#123 [00:17] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
#124 [00:17] <juless> ther wont be expert advice on this chat about linux
#125 [00:17] <Smanly> Pyro: There are mods though,
#126 [00:18] <juless> pyro well it says in the rules
#127 [00:18] <Pyro> well give me an ip or two to try juless, i'll be on tomorrow if its fixed
#128 [00:18] <Smanly> Don't advertise here, guys.
#129 [00:18] <juless> ok Il give you one I like hang on
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#131 [00:19] <juless> how do I just talk to you pyro
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#133 [00:19] <Pyro> i havent a clue
#134 [00:19] <minty-one> i have mate
#135 [00:20] <juless> how do you make your name red
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#137 [00:20] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
#138 [00:20] <Pyro> click on my name in the list of chatting people
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#140 [00:20] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
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#143 [00:23] <Prince_PerryIII> I know the servers are down.... but how long have they been down?
#144 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> 4 hours now?
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#146 [00:24] <Prince_PerryIII> So they should be up soon..
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#148 [00:25] * GreyVulpine points at: https://www.google.com/search?q=Time+in+sweden
#148 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Mojang is probably still passed out right now.
#149 [00:25] <Prince_PerryIII> So within the next 2 hours I suppose :D
#150 [00:25] <minty-one> wi log in fine i have had this problem i have been having for a while now and havent had the time to work on it i think it has to do with minecraft.bin or what i am using to launch it idk
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#152 [00:27] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
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#154 [00:29] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
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#157 [00:30] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
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#159 [00:30] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
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#162 [00:30] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
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#164 [00:31] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
#165 [00:31] <Zedenstrife> How come SOME servers work
#166 [00:31] <Zedenstrife> but not others
#167 [00:31] <KiwiGuy> They are not authenticating with mojangs servers
#168 [00:32] <Zedenstrife> whats the cons of doing that
#169 [00:32] <KiwiGuy> lack of official control
#170 [00:32] <KiwiGuy> its java so the authentication they are using could inject code into your game which could do bad things for your pc
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#172 [00:33] <Smanly> lolno, thats not what it is.
#173 [00:33] <Smanly> Other way around.
#174 [00:33] <Smanly> Account verification.
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#176 [00:40] <GreyBot> Mojang's Session server is currently down. If you're getting a failed to login, http returned response code 503, there is nothing wrong on your end. Please be patient and try again later. We have no official ETA on when it'll be back up.
#177 [00:41] <Prince_PerryIII> Well I dont know the ETA but I just got on a Tekkit server... so.... :D
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#180 [00:42] <Smanly> http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/
#181 [00:42] <Zedenstrife> its back up
#182 [00:42] <Smanly> Yep, its back... for now
#183 [00:42] <Zedenstrife> my server is back up
#184 [00:43] <Smanly> GreyVulpine: iz beck
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#188 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> !auth up
#189 [00:48] <Smanly> ktnks
#190 [00:55] <Wug> thank god
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#192 [00:57] <cmdkeys01> Hello
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#194 [00:58] <cmdkeys01> I have a problem buying a gift. The payment was accepted but the code did not appeared in my account what do I do?
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#207 [01:05] <handheld> zzz
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#216 [01:33] <KheKhoin123> Hello
#217 [01:33] <KheKhoin123> Can you help me because i have buyed minecraft but when i login it says that i'm not premium.
#218 [01:35] <Wug> :payment/stopped
#219 [01:35] <WugBot> payment/stopped: Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#220 [01:35] <WugBot> payment/stopped: If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#221 [01:35] <Wug> WugBot: doop
#222 [01:35] <WugBot> Wug: doop
#223 [01:35] <Wug> hang on a tick
#224 [01:35] <Wug> never mind
#225 [01:35] <Wug> I guess it was me that was lagging
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#279 [05:54] <kelstena> Hi, I have essentialsChat and Factions but as soon as I install factions, it completely stops essentials chat from working, rather than just injecting the faction name into the message it just strips all formatting from the message.
#280 [05:54] <Francisco> Any news from yesterday problems about money bookers?
#281 [05:54] <Francisco> i'm still not a premium member
#282 [05:54] <Andrio|Away> kelstena, maybe you should ask that in #bukkit or #essentials
#283 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> try asking in #bukkit or #essentials
#284 [05:55] <kelstena> ah cheers ;)
#285 [05:55] <Andrio|Away> Ninja'd
#286 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> fran - yes
#287 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/765626-paid-on-october-1-but-no-premium
#288 [05:56] <Francisco> ok thanks, but i've already sent the transaction ID so it seems that i just have to wait
#289 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> indeed
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#379 [06:58] <Kaffebulle> Bought minecraft for some hours ago, got concerned since I couldnt log on after one hour after purchase, now i have found out that they got a connection problem with moneybookers and that they are manually upgrading the accounts, at the same time they have 15days of support tickets to handle before they do that. why arent they prioritizing people not being able to play their game > bugs
#380 [06:58] <Kaffebulle> ?
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#383 [06:59] <Necrodoom> just 15 days? o.o
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#422 [07:00] <Kaffebulle> since when do you ever catch up?
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#429 [07:01] <Kaffebulle> i mean you aint supposed to wait for 15days after purchase to play an digital bought and downloaded game.
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#433 [07:02] <Freddo> [12:07:33] * Gizmo_and_Ali poke Freddo
#434 [07:02] <Freddo> [12:07:41] <@Kealper> Gizmo_and_Ali: careful who you randommly do that to, saying someone's name makes their client make a noise
#435 [07:02] <Freddo> I know its like 9 hours later but not for me it doesn't
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#479 [07:37] <Recypher> r servers back online
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#504 [07:49] <Bluei> Hi!
#505 [07:49] <Bluei> I really need some help guys..
#506 [07:49] <Bluei> Just bought mc.
#507 [07:49] <Bluei> and i got my order number.
#508 [07:49] <Bluei> but its been 3 hours.
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#510 [07:50] <Bluei> and i still havnt recieved my email.
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#512 [07:50] <Bluei> And the transaction my my visa has been confirmed.
#513 [07:50] <Bluei> that they have taken the transaction.
#514 [07:50] <Bluei> Whats up?
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#565 [07:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> Bluei: what's your username
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#572 [08:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> Bluei: ?
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#586 [08:09] <Bluei> My username is
#587 [08:09] <Bluei> Bluei
#588 [08:09] <Batboi31> Can i download. Minecraft to my blackberry tablet?
#589 [08:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> !paid Bluei
#590 [08:09] <Bluei> Where is my spoon
#591 [08:09] <Bluei> Wdf?
#592 [08:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> Bluei: you'll have to wait, sorry
#593 [08:09] <Bluei> I have fucking paid.
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#596 [08:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> Bluei: Just means the payment hasn't gone through yet
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#598 [08:10] <Bluei> my visa card.
#599 [08:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> Bluei: wait 12-24 hrs from when the payment went through
#600 [08:10] <Bluei> says the transaction is complete.
#601 [08:10] <Bluei> its been 3 hours.
#602 [08:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> Yes, that doesnt mean mojangs database has registered it
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#604 [08:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> Bluei: just wait, sorry about that
#605 [08:11] <Bluei> Oh..
#606 [08:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> Bluei: you can rest assured that the payment has not just disappeared
#607 [08:11] <Bluei> So how long exspected?
#608 [08:11] <Bluei> bad spelling.
#609 [08:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> Bluei: as i said, 12-24 hrs from when payment went through
#610 [08:11] <Bluei> its 1am.
#611 [08:11] <Bluei> Aight.
#612 [08:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> Sorry :)
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#618 [08:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> Batboi31: there is a pocket edition of mc but i think its only for apple devices
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#655 [08:29] <Jesse> hi when i play minecraft i enable cheats and when i goto press / it dosnt appear with anything?
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#658 [08:31] <Zimsky> shit that was the shortest time i've ever seen
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#713 [09:22] <Miyagii22> not prememium user yet
#714 [09:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> Miyagii22: when did you pay
#715 [09:23] <Miyagii22> yesterday :/ oct 1st
#716 [09:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> Miyagii22: whats ur username
#717 [09:23] <Miyagii22> Miyagii22
#718 [09:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> !paid Miyagii22
#719 [09:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> Miyagii22: did the payment go out?
#720 [09:23] <Miyagii22> yes it did moneybroker sent me the thing
#721 [09:23] <Miyagii22> confirmation
#722 [09:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> moneybrookers are having issues atm
#723 [09:24] <Miyagii22> oooo ok
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#725 [09:25] <Guest> umm hi everyone
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#727 [09:25] <Guest> I bought a gift code for my friend
#728 [09:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> Guest: ok
#729 [09:26] <Guest> and i got this message
#730 [09:26] <Guest> Account EP45 Order XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
#731 [09:26] <Necrodoom> wtf
#732 [09:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> try to type on not so many lines :)
#733 [09:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> but imo 3 lines isnt exactly a lot :|
#734 [09:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> anyhow, carry on
#735 [09:27] <Guest> i got that order code
#736 [09:27] <Guest> it is 32 letters
#737 [09:27] <Guest> how do i use it..?
#738 [09:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> not a clue, tried googling it Guest?
#739 [09:28] <Guest> yes..
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#741 [09:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> https://minecraft.net/user/redeem
#742 [09:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> <_>
#743 [09:29] <Guest> it says Invalid gift code or already used
#744 [09:29] <Guest> T.T
#745 [09:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> Guest: then he already used it?
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#747 [09:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> or you didnt giev it to him yet
#748 [09:30] <Guest> i dont know how to give it..
#749 [09:30] <Xait> I bought Minecraft yesterday but when i try to log on it says that my account is not premium? -.-
#750 [09:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> Xait: did you use moneybrokers?
#751 [09:30] <Xait> think so
#752 [09:30] <Guest> yes i did
#753 [09:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/765626-paid-on-sept-30-oct-1-but-no-premium
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#754 [09:31] <Xait> okay thanks
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#756 [09:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> Guest: did you try redeeming it before?
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#757 [09:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> any ops alive? :L
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#774 [10:13] <redfyt> Should i just keep waiting for my account to be switched to premium?
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#778 [10:26] <GIS> hi! I have 2 sons that plays the Xbox360 version and I wonder if the online version is different to the offline version
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#780 [10:27] <Jake420gamer> hey
#781 [10:28] <Jake420gamer> i paid the 30 bucks to play
#782 [10:28] <Jake420gamer> but everytime i try to log on it says can not connect to minecraft.net
#783 [10:29] <Jake420gamer> can u help or no
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#785 [10:30] <Jake420gamer> heloo?
#786 [10:30] <Jake420gamer> fuck this game i want my money back if it wont work
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#796 [10:39] <JahZito> hello ladies and gents, i'm 30 and german and i need help with minecraft skins... I uploaded a skin in 64x32 to minecraft.net and it changed my skin, it was all ok, but now i want my hd-skins from my texture packs back... this don't work, i can do what i want, changing char.png, reinstall minecraft and mchdpatcher ect don't work... i only see my skins, which i upload on minecraft.net... can i deactivate the uplo
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#798 [10:40] <JahZito> please help me
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#805 [10:56] <Selbram> 10:56:37 AM - mollstam: About to deploy new app to handle the minecraft.net payments. Will retroactively process those who bought since yesterday.
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#811 [11:04] <Mattia> Hello my minecraft crashes and i can't get the log screen it goes away immediatly. Where can i see the log file?
#812 [11:04] <Mattia> Hello my minecraft crashes and i can't get the log screen it goes away immediatly. Where can i see the log file?
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#821 [11:20] <Flyin_freak> hello?
#822 [11:20] <Flyin_freak> I paid for minecraft on September 17 and when i log in it still says user not premium...
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#824 [11:21] <Lynx900> Hi
#825 [11:21] <Lynx900> I need help
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#827 [11:22] <Flyin_freak> hello???
#828 [11:22] <Lynx900> My minecraft won work
#829 [11:22] <Lynx900> wont*
#830 [11:22] <Lynx900> Pleasehep
#831 [11:22] <Lynx900> Hello?
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#833 [11:24] <Flyin_freak> there is not help on this chat...
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#839 [11:27] <theunpaidBill> Man, people are so impatient. "MUST HAVE HELP WITH 10 SECONDS OF ENTERING CHANNEL!!!!!111"
#840 [11:28] <Raphy963> Hi, i just bought minecraft 10 minutes ago and i migrated my account to my email, i'm trying to login on the website using my email and the good password but it can't connect, no error message, it just show me the login page with chrome/explorer and the index with firefox, my friends can connect, help please?
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#844 [11:29] <theunpaidBill> Someone said earlier they were migrating the payment system and things were delayed.
#845 [11:29] <Calcifer> hello
#846 [11:29] <Raphy963> Oh, so i need to wait?
#847 [11:29] <theunpaidBill> Regardless no one here can help with account issues.
#848 [11:30] <Calcifer> Is anyone familiar about the Linux Leap Second Bug?
#849 [11:30] <Raphy963> Ok, so it's delayed and i need to wait or what? I can connect and play but i can't login on the website, and now i have the default skin and it sucks
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#851 [11:32] <theunpaidBill> I would suppose you need to wait.
#852 [11:32] <Selbram> Raphy963: for some odd reason migrate accounts cannot login to the website
#853 [11:33] <theunpaidBill> Texture packs are available regardless of your pay status, just download and install. :-)
#854 [11:33] <Raphy963> Sweet =_=
#855 [11:33] <Selbram> mine is migrated as well, and yes it sucks
#856 [11:33] <Raphy963> So, what did i need to do? Pay for it again?
#857 [11:33] <theunpaidBill> What about it Calcifer?
#858 [11:33] <Raphy963> Is there a way to contact Mojang?
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#860 [11:34] <Selbram> Raphy963: help.mojang.com
#861 [11:34] <Selbram> report it there
#862 [11:34] <Raphy963> Like a phone number or live chat?
#863 [11:34] <Selbram> they do not have those, only the help.mojang.com help system, which can let you submit problems
#864 [11:34] <Selbram> it might take a few days to get back to you
#865 [11:34] <Raphy963> They can answer me fast?
#866 [11:34] <Selbram> can you log into the game
#867 [11:35] <Raphy963> Yes, but my skin suck
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#869 [11:35] <Raphy963> And i'm like a griefer
#870 [11:35] <Selbram> you are better off then a lot of people then, some have paid and can not log in
#871 [11:35] <Selbram> lol
#872 [11:35] <Raphy963> Yup :/ I will contact mojang with the support
#873 [11:35] <Selbram> submit a ticket :)
#874 [11:35] <Raphy963> Wish they will answer me fast
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#876 [11:36] <Raphy963> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/438361-account-migration-issues
#877 [11:36] <Raphy963> Writed today
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#881 [11:41] <blocks> !paid ssfrostic
#882 [11:43] <blocks> ok so where do i find my transaction id?
#883 [11:44] <blocks> i have my order number
#884 [11:44] <blocks> but dont see the transaction id?
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#887 [11:46] <Raphy963> When you buy Minecraft you have the Transaction ID in the confirmation mail
#888 [11:47] <JahZito> hello ladies and gents, i'm 30 and german and i need help with minecraft skins... I uploaded a skin in 64x32 to minecraft.net and it changed my skin, it was all ok, but now i want my hd-skins from my texture packs back... this don't work, i can do what i want, changing char.png, reinstall minecraft and mchdpatcher ect don't work... i only see my skins, which i upload on minecraft.net... can i deactivate the uplo
#889 [11:47] <JahZito> please help me, this help.mojang.com sucks, i can't write an email to the support or something like that...
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#891 [11:48] <JahZito> or where can i submit a ticket?
#892 [11:49] <Raphy963> Sorry, we are not robot, we will not answer you after 10 seconds
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#896 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#897 [11:49] <blocks> Raphy963: i did not recieve the email is it still possible to get my transaction id? the email i got from moneybookers does not have an id in it it just says thankyou for your purchase
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#899 [11:49] <Raphy963> So you didn't buyed Minecraft
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#901 [11:50] <Raphy963> bought*
#902 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> Call your financial institution. Make sure a record of the transaction exists
#903 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> they may have the transaction id as well
#904 [11:51] <blocks> Raphy963: yes i did i have my order number and the money has been deducted from my credit card
#905 [11:51] <Karl_> I can not play minecraft i had pay it with paypal from Mojang
#906 [11:51] <Raphy963> Look your e-mail
#907 [11:51] <blocks> can i pastebin my email and you look at it?
#908 [11:51] <Karl_> I have one Username but no password
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#910 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> None of us here work for mojang
#911 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> we cannot do any account lookup
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#913 [11:52] <Karl_> I don´t can make an minecraft password
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#915 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> blocks - when did you place your order?
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#917 [11:53] <blocks> GreyVulpine: yes but he says i did not buy the game and my email says i did if he sees it he will know how to assist me better?:
#918 [11:53] <blocks> yesterday
#919 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> ah hah
#920 [11:53] <Ruyys> I finally got hold of my Transaction ID. Can I contact someone to play tonight or do I must send an email and wait until tomorrow?
#921 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> please read: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/765626-paid-on-october-1-but-no-premium
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#923 [11:54] <Karl_> have you an email from minecraft?
#924 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> There was a large amount of orders placed yesterday that didn't go jeouh
#925 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> you can submit a ticket to mojang
#926 [11:55] <Karl_> to contact?
#927 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#928 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> use that to contact mojang
#929 [11:55] <blocks> GreyVulpine: yes i know this im using this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new to tell them its been 24 hours and still no access but it asks for transaction id but i didnt recieve one in the email
#930 [11:56] <Krishnan> Just bought Minecraft for my son but he cannot login or migrate it and is comes up with "does not have premium account" Any advice?
#931 [11:56] <Karl_> thank you
#932 [11:56] <blocks> Krishnan: please read: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/765626-paid-on-october-1-but-no-premium
#933 [11:57] <blocks> same applys to todays purchases aswell
#934 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> blocks - then send an email to tobias@mojang.com
#935 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> he should be able to help you out
#936 [11:57] <blocks> GreyVulpine: ok thankyou
#937 [11:58] * GreyVulpine heads back out
#937 [11:58] <Krishnan> Thank you
#938 [11:58] <blocks> np
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#940 [12:01] <Kogy> Hello i was here yesterday and i have problem with payment and i fill some form on mojang . I would like ask how long time take resolve my requests.
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#944 [12:04] <ulgrath> hello all quick question for you lot hope you can help tried the demo and my 5 year old and myself love it does anyone know if we were to lan play if I would need to purchase two coppies or would one do it?
#945 [12:05] <Selbram> you need two copies
#946 [12:05] <ulgrath> thanks selbram
#947 [12:05] <Denizen> Yes, as you need two seperate accounts to login to.
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#950 [12:07] <Kogy> Do you know someone how long time take on mojang resolve my request on bad payment ? I was bought 2 gift code after 6 hours bud only one came
#951 [12:07] <Denizen> It may take a few days to a few weeks, hard to tell
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#954 [12:09] <Kogy> oh this is long time and is here some chance that mojang resolved my problem ?
#955 [12:09] <lutzee> Finally got this BNC to work..
#956 [12:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> Eddie: you there?
#957 [12:12] <Eddie> Yes
#958 [12:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> Eddie: can you put http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/765626-paid-on-october-1-but-no-premium in the motd?
#959 [12:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> lots of ppls problems are being caused by that atm
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#962 [12:13] <lutzee> WhereIsMySpoon: https://twitter.com/mollstam/status/253161800349134850
#963 [12:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> lutzee: oh
#964 [12:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> sorry then :D
#965 [12:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> strange, i have molls followed
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#967 [12:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh, twitter was just not telling me i had new tweets >_>
#968 [12:14] <Eddie> It is done.
#969 [12:15] <Eddie> Though people shouldn't join #minecraft for help. Idk where they're reading to join there.
#970 [12:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> er, i meant for this channel
#971 [12:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> but as lut said it doesnt matter anymoer
#972 [12:15] <lutzee> Eddie: on the help site it lists both here and #minecraft :p
#973 [12:15] <Eddie> Then I shall remove it.
#974 [12:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> thats a mistake lol
#975 [12:15] <Eddie> lutzee: OK
#976 [12:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> sorry to bother you, twitter didnt tell me molls had siad that >_>
#977 [12:16] * lutzee points at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/364794-where-can-i-find-more-help-and-tech-support-
#977 [12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> i guess #minecraft does help sometimes
#978 [12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> they should list #bukkit there too
#979 [12:17] <Eddie> They do help there
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#981 [12:18] <Eddie> But a lot of people wonder why so much offtopic.
#982 [12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> cause it's #hats
#983 [12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
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#987 [12:34] <JahZito> hello ladies and gents, i'm 30 and german and i need help with minecraft skins... I uploaded a skin in 64x32 to minecraft.net and it changed my skin, it was all ok, but now i want my hd-skins from my texture packs back... this don't work, i can do what i want, changing char.png, reinstall minecraft and mchdpatcher ect don't work... i only see my skins, which i upload on minecraft.net... can i deactivate the upl
#988 [12:35] <JahZito> the links to the email support, i left a message there too
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#990 [12:35] <JahZito> but does anybody know, whats going on here?
#991 [12:35] <lutzee> Um, that isn't possible
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#993 [12:37] <JahZito> it is sad, but true... it seems that the uploaded mincraft.net-skin to overwrite all of char.png's
#994 [12:40] <blocks> omg omg omg yay!!!! guys they finnaly fixed my account i can play wooooohoooooo thankyou guys :D
#995 [12:41] * blocks is overly excited lol
#995 [12:42] <blocks> GreyVulpine: thankyou for your assistance sending the email you told me to send they fixed my account :D
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#998 [12:46] <blocks> i got one last question is there a channel on this server that help ppl buy mods? or where do i purchase mods for the game? thanks for any responces
#999 [12:47] <lutzee> blocks: you don't buy mods, the are free 3rd party modifications to the games
#1000 [12:48] <blocks> 0.o free? wow awesome imma look some up hehe i want pokemon on my server hehe
#1001 [12:48] <blocks> lutzee: thankyou :D
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#1003 [12:48] <lutzee> blocks: most are listed here http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/51-minecraft-mods/
#1004 [12:49] <lutzee> blocks: bear in mind if you have any problems with them that we cannot support you, apart from returning your game to the default state.
#1005 [12:50] <Boreeas> blocks: In addition, to adding things to your server requires a bit more work. You need modified server software (http://bukkit.org), and install plugins for that server. For help with bukkit, see #bukkit though
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#1007 [12:51] <lutzee> Boreeas: Not all mods use bukkit >.> infact very few "mods" use bukkit, pretty much all listed on that board of the forums is not bukkit
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#1011 [12:54] <blocks> lutzee: you are too awesome man/woman thankyou for your help you deserve rewards for helping ppl in here for real
#1012 [12:54] <blocks> all of you do
#1013 [12:54] <Denizen> Ha, not really.
#1014 [12:55] <Denizen> We know a bit about Minecraft/Java so we use our knowledge to help the occasional person who comes in with a problem.
#1015 [12:55] <Denizen> we're not exactly firefighters. :p
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#1017 [12:55] * lutzee runs into burning building,,,, oh wait
#1017 [12:55] <blocks> Denizen: you give free support and help users that cant find help anywhere else. that to me is rewardable
#1018 [12:56] <Denizen> haha. I guess it might be. Maybe a muffin as the reward?
#1019 [12:56] <Denizen> I would really like a muffin actually
#1020 [12:56] <blocks> well all i can give is my thanks to you guys and help when i can too. :)
#1021 [12:57] <Denizen> you're welcome. ;)
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#1023 [13:00] <Boreeas> lutzee: I was referring to his statement to "add pokemon to his server"
#1024 [13:01] <lutzee> That must be pretty limited via bukkit, there is a proper mod that adds like all 150 original pokemon to the game ;)
#1025 [13:01] <Boreeas> Which would require plugins, and bukkit (or a comparable modded server, but bukkit is probably the best bet), and probably client-side mods, too
#1026 [13:01] <Boreeas> Well yeah, it would be limited, but that was not his question
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#1028 [13:02] <Boreeas> Up to him to figure out if it fits his needs
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#1030 [13:03] <Deas> Good Day good people, i come in peace!
#1031 [13:04] <lutzee> s/peace/pieces/
#1032 [13:04] <Deas> ohi mollstam! you wouldn't happen to be at the central station somewhere between 12 and 13 on your way to the subway today?
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#1034 [13:05] <Boreeas> Deas: mollstam is probably not connected right now
#1035 [13:05] <lutzee> That is only a bouncer
#1036 [13:05] <blocks> Boreeas: and lutzee yes these 2 links will give all i need thankyou for the help. i see so much to do in the next few hours imma be afk building a dream server/ client lol
#1037 [13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> and why are you stalking him
#1038 [13:05] <Deas> Doesn't hurt to try.
#1039 [13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> :L
#1040 [13:07] <Deas> WhereIsMySpoon: i am not, but i just thought i walked past somebody that reminded me of him, with his *special* rounded black glasses
#1041 [13:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> i see
#1042 [13:07] <Deas> and perhaps a moustache, which i have no clue if he have one or not
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#1044 [13:07] <Denizen> I'm trying to grow one of those greasy mustaches
#1045 [13:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> Deas: http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/13/136635/2229623-tobias_large.jpg
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#1047 [13:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> he doesnt have a mustache
#1048 [13:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> at least if thats up to date
#1049 [13:08] <Deas> my point extactly
#1050 [13:09] <Deas> kinda wish he would respond :p
#1051 [13:09] <Deas> would be so silly if it was him
#1052 [13:09] <Deas> i almost bumped into him in the hurry to the train haha
#1053 [13:10] <puffrfish> you will never wash the hand that touched him
#1054 [13:10] <Deas> oh please, i'm not THAT pafetic
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#1056 [13:11] <Deas> i'm just saying it would be silly if it was him... jezee
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#1059 [13:12] <blocks> ok im having an issue im trying to find a mutiplayer server to play on but it says scanning lan worlds? how to find minecraft internet worlds? or do i have to find someones server to connect? minecraft dont have any servers?
#1060 [13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> blocks: you have to add a server
#1061 [13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> minecraft doesnt provide a list for you
#1062 [13:12] <blocks> aaa ok cool
#1063 [13:12] <lutzee> ?? smp/server
#1064 [13:12] <lutzee> ?? smp/servers
#1065 [13:12] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1066 [13:12] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#1067 [13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> ^this
#1068 [13:13] <blocks> awesome
#1069 [13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://minecraft-server-list.com/ is cool too
#1070 [13:13] <blocks> this is so awesome
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#1072 [13:15] <blocks> thankyou again
#1073 [13:15] <Deas> anyone's a mac'er here? a friend is bugging me about wanting to try tekkit but it crashes at mojang splashscreen
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#1075 [13:16] <lutzee> Deas: ask on the tekkit forums
#1076 [13:16] <Deas> lutzee: by looking at the ammount of questions about any given error on there, it's a no-go
#1077 [13:17] <Deas> so i guess it's his own fault for using mac instead har har (:
#1078 [13:17] <lutzee> If you can get an error report then i can probably advise what is wrong
#1079 [13:17] <lutzee> May just be down to using java6 when something needs java 7
#1080 [13:17] <lutzee> (mods can do that)
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#1082 [13:28] <Deas> lutzee: he tells me he already got the newest java 7 from oracle' he don't know if there's any logs nor how to find them
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#1086 [13:29] <Deas> are you familiure to Mac, lutzee?
#1087 [13:29] <Bullero> Hi i have question: Can i change my mojang account security questions?
#1088 [13:29] <lutzee> I'm familliar to modding, but not macs, yet java works fine across platforms
#1089 [13:31] <Deas> lutzee: i am perfeclty aware of that, but enough of that, i don't really care to help my friend since he's undoubtebly a fanboy
#1090 [13:31] <Deas> Bullero: no
#1091 [13:31] <Bullero> Damn
#1092 [13:32] <Bullero> My brother putted some shit in those lines. And now we have buyed minecraft on it and...
#1093 [13:33] <Deas> Bullero: you could try contacting Marc
#1094 [13:33] <lutzee> Bullero: submit a support ticket here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new including your transaction ID, and explain your situation,
#1095 [13:33] <Deas> i'd give you link to the support page but i lost it, lutzee can probably hand it out
#1096 [13:33] <Deas> aand he beat me to it
#1097 [13:34] <Deas> by a few seconds (:
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#1115 [14:28] <davedavis256> hey, I'm trying to buy minecraft but can't. paypal charged me two bucks but I receive a message "There was an error processing the payment"
#1116 [14:28] <davedavis256> How do I get my two dollars back
#1117 [14:29] <davedavis256> wtf
#1118 [14:29] <Deas> contact paypal or wait some more to see what happens
#1119 [14:30] <davedavis256> uhh, it was just mysteriously refunded
#1120 [14:32] <Deas> problem solved by waiting (:
#1121 [14:33] <davedavis256> I still want to buy it though. using my mastercard gives me some nonsense about a "securecode" that I've never heard of. and paypal charges me a dollar and shows an error
#1122 [14:34] <lutzee> davedavis256: http://www.mastercard.us/support/securecode.html
#1123 [14:34] <Deas> lutzee beats me to it yet again~ dang son, why so fast?
#1124 [14:35] <davedavis256> already went to mastercard support. the card number is invalid to register with securecode
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#1127 [14:35] <lutzee> I'm used to people joining, asking a question then leaving without waiting for a reply
#1128 [14:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#1129 [14:35] <lutzee> davedavis256: have you made an account with paypal? if so you probably have to fully authenticate the account
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#1131 [14:36] <davedavis256> I do not have a paypal account. I'm doing a one time charge
#1132 [14:36] <lutzee> Okay, that is odd
#1133 [14:37] <Deas> davedavis256: you'll be needing the sercurecode anyway later in the future, so i suggest you to contact your bank about it and let them help you with that
#1134 [14:37] <davedavis256> I have never needed securecode for anything
#1135 [14:37] <davedavis256> I've had this card for years
#1136 [14:37] <Deas> it's a internet thing if you want to buy stuffs off it~
#1137 [14:37] <davedavis256> maybe in sweden you need secure code
#1138 [14:38] <davedavis256> I've bought lots of things with this card
#1139 [14:38] <davedavis256> for years
#1140 [14:38] <Deas> on the interwebs?
#1141 [14:38] <davedavis256> yep
#1142 [14:38] <davedavis256> amazon, xbox live, lots of major vendors
#1143 [14:39] <lutzee> With mojang being in sweeden it's probably due to it being an international transfer
#1144 [14:40] <lutzee> davedavis256: the most i can advise you to do at the moment is to read this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#1145 [14:42] <davedavis256> so you're saying call paypal. what a pain. maybe I won't buy it after all :-(
#1146 [14:44] <Deas> i'm saying contact your bank, straight out your issues with secure code and buy the game with your card instead
#1147 [14:44] <davedavis256> hmm ok I'll actually try that
#1148 [14:44] <Deas> and you would problably be able to auth the paypal account with that secure code so that you could use paypal instead
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#1150 [14:45] <pyromaniac> hi im looking for a new computer to play minercaft on any things i should know ?
#1151 [14:46] <lutzee> pyromaniac: generally a desktop is prefered for performance,
#1152 [14:47] <lutzee> Curreny generation intel CPU's should give you a solid 30fps+ using integrated graphics, but ifg you have the money for a discrete Graphics card too then that will help performance
#1153 [14:47] <FLHerne> pyromaniac: You'll need a reasonable amount of RAM, most modern computers will play Minecraft acceptablyish though :P
#1154 [14:48] <FLHerne> Other than netbooks, everything modern will :-)
#1155 [14:48] <lutzee> Oh actually the New AMD trinity CPU's are out with really good integrated graphics
#1156 [14:48] <Deas> i would prefer a nVida gpu
#1157 [14:48] <pyromaniac> hows acer i have had a few of them with out any problems ?
#1158 [14:48] <lutzee> Generally PC's should have 8GB of RAM standard
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#1160 [14:49] <lutzee> pyromaniac: personally, i find acers to be of poor quality compared with other brands
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#1162 [14:49] * FLHerne agrees about Acer
#1162 [14:49] <FLHerne> They're not great
#1163 [14:49] <Deas> pyromaniac: don't get an Acer or HP
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#1165 [14:49] <FLHerne> I've had awful experiences with Dell, too
#1166 [14:49] <pyromaniac> lol i would never get a HP
#1167 [14:49] <Deas> i've never had any issues with Dell
#1168 [14:49] <FLHerne> HPs are quite good in my experience (or at least the better-end ones)
#1169 [14:50] <lutzee> Dells can be a mixed bag
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#1171 [14:50] <lutzee> pyromaniac: Asus is a good brand
#1172 [14:50] <theunpaidBill> You get what you pay for
#1173 [14:50] <FLHerne> I have more HPs than anything else now, and they're all nice and solid. No trouble, recommended :-)
#1174 [14:50] <theunpaidBill> If it's cheap, it's cheaply made
#1175 [14:50] <pyromaniac> i would like to keep it under 500
#1176 [14:51] <FLHerne> theunpaidBill: The reverse isn't always true though ;-)
#1177 [14:51] <pyromaniac> for the tower itself
#1178 [14:51] <lutzee> I just saw this, which is a nice find! http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/asus-essentio-cm6730-uk004o-desktop-pc-12448425-pdt.html
#1179 [14:51] <Deas> pyromaniac: don't buy a cheap computer, if you can't replace the hardware yourself (ie a laptop)
#1180 [14:51] <FLHerne> pyromaniac: Have you considered building one?
#1181 [14:51] <pyromaniac> no i havent is it hard ??
#1182 [14:51] <lutzee> Aww its out of stock, but i am not surprised
#1183 [14:51] <Deas> not really
#1184 [14:52] <pyromaniac> so can i build a good pc for 500 ?
#1185 [14:52] <lutzee> pyromaniac: not hard, but there are a few things to bear in mind, you have to make sure everything is compatible and such
#1186 [14:52] <blocks> i built my7 computer off newegg site
#1187 [14:52] <blocks> -7
#1188 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: building a computer is terribly simple as long as you know how to use a screwdriver.
#1189 [14:52] <pyromaniac> lol
#1190 [14:53] * DopeGhoti isn't kidding
#1190 [14:53] <pyromaniac> i think i can use one
#1191 [14:53] <lutzee> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hhGo this is a low end gaming starter build that should run minecraft fine http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hhGo
#1192 [14:53] <lutzee> yey for double linking \o/
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#1194 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> we're literally talking "out the round peg in the round hole and the square peg in the square hole" type stuff here.
#1195 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> s/out/put/
#1196 [14:54] <Deas> lutzee, ever tried a SSD instead of a HDD?
#1197 [14:54] <blocks> for about $600 you can build one awesome gaming computer off newegg
#1198 [14:54] <lutzee> Deas: i have an SSD in my own rig, that build isn't what i am using
#1199 [14:54] <lutzee> pyromaniac: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220162
#1200 [14:55] * Fre3bie|School is now known as Fre3bie
#1201 [14:55] <blocks> there^^
#1202 [14:55] <lutzee> Tha will run minecraft great, and it is a quality brand in the PC parts markey
#1203 [14:55] <lutzee> market
#1204 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> I used to build computers and sell them for a 30% markup, and _still_ beat Dell's prices.
#1205 [14:56] <pyromaniac> so i dont have to be a great computer guy to do this ehh ?
#1206 [14:56] * lutzee hadn't realised actually how good the asus desktops were relitively speaking
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#1207 [14:56] <lutzee> pyromaniac: as long as you follow the instructions then you should be fine
#1208 [14:57] <FLHerne> pyromaniac: Nope :P
#1209 [14:57] <lutzee> If in doubt, this is a great 3 part series on building a PC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw
#1210 [14:57] * FLHerne was 9 when building his first PC :P
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#1211 [14:57] <pyromaniac> will a 500 pc run starcraft if so that would be a big +
#1212 [14:57] <blocks> i was 12 when i built my first pc
#1213 [14:58] <lutzee> pyromaniac: it should run it fine
#1214 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: A $150 PC could probably run Starcraft these days
#1215 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> that game is as old as the hills
#1216 [14:58] <theunpaidBill> You probably weren't born when I built my first pc. :-)
#1217 [14:58] <FLHerne> theunpaidBill: Probably not :-)
#1218 [14:58] <pyromaniac> starcraft 2 i mean lol
#1219 [14:58] <FLHerne> DId you need a soldering iron then? :D
#1220 [14:58] <blocks> im 31 so u must be very old :P
#1221 [14:59] <lutzee> starcraft 2 still only uses Dx9c
#1222 [14:59] <pyromaniac> my netbook runs starcraft good
#1223 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> blocks: you're the oldest person other than myself that I've seen here, I think (:
#1224 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: well. not good; well.
#1225 [14:59] <blocks> lol
#1226 [14:59] <pyromaniac> damn lol
#1227 [14:59] <theunpaidBill> I am blocks
#1228 [14:59] <lutzee> DopeGhoti: i know a 55y/o who hangs arround in one of the modding channels ( #direwolf20 )
#1229 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> lutzee: we old-timers gots to stick together (:
#1230 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> "Kids these days, I tell ya.."
#1231 [15:00] <pyromaniac> lol
#1232 [15:00] <blocks> yes we do ^5 every oldie
#1233 [15:00] <pyromaniac> ok tell me what the motherbord does plz
#1234 [15:00] * FLHerne just finished counting as one of those :P
#1234 [15:00] <theunpaidBill> My first computer had an 8088 chip
#1235 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> "Back in my day, we couldn't get SIMMs; we got the RAM chips and socketed them imto RAM expansion slot cards!"
#1236 [15:01] <FLHerne> pyromaniac: It's the thing you fix everything else to ;-)
#1237 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> theunpaidBill: my first computer had a 6502 (:
#1238 [15:01] <pyromaniac> ok i see
#1239 [15:01] <blocks> thats the main board that you plug all your hardware into
#1240 [15:01] <FLHerne> s/fix to/plug into/
#1241 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> Away
#1242 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> ^Z
#1243 [15:02] <lutzee> I know a mod that emulates a 6502 inside minecraft \o/
#1244 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> anyhow, the motherboard is the 'main system board'. All your other boards, or cards, are technically 'daughterboards', though no one uses that terminology anymore
#1245 [15:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> what about sonboards?
#1246 [15:02] <pyromaniac> the memory would be refering to RAM correct ? and i know i cant spell for crap lol
#1247 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> As other said, is the motherboard into/onto which you connect your CPU, RAM, and other devices such as your GPU
#1248 [15:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> i feel the male half is being left out
#1249 [15:02] <blocks> yes ram
#1250 [15:02] <FLHerne> pyromaniac: Yes
#1251 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> WhereIsMySpoon: all boards are female because historical nerds were lonely old men
#1252 [15:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> rofl
#1253 [15:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> xD
#1254 [15:03] <pyromaniac> video card is ?
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#1256 [15:03] <FLHerne> pyromaniac: Produces video output
#1257 [15:03] <theunpaidBill> Not just historical (says the married man) :-)
#1258 [15:03] <popcorn9499> hello
#1259 [15:03] <pyromaniac> hi
#1260 [15:03] <FLHerne> As in, what you see on your screen ;-)
#1261 [15:03] <FLHerne> popcorn9499: Hi :-)
#1262 [15:03] <pyromaniac> ok
#1263 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: it's the daughterboard into which you plug your display. It handles the heavy lifting of all the 3D math so your CPU can worry about things like physics
#1264 [15:04] <lutzee> pyromaniac: its an addon card to run your displays and calculate complex graphical rendering stuff, it's not essential to have one as long as your CPU/chipset has graphics support
#1265 [15:04] <Deas> i disagree
#1266 [15:04] <popcorn9499> i am talking form a school pc where they blocked utube
#1267 [15:04] <Deas> a gpu/videocard is a must
#1268 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> Having a discrete GPU is very important for contemporary games
#1269 [15:04] <popcorn9499> bye
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#1271 [15:04] <FLHerne> lutzee: You can get pretty cheap ones, you need better than integrated graphics for most games. Not much point not getting one really
#1272 [15:05] * FLHerne didn't see the point in popcorn9499
#1272 [15:05] <pyromaniac> what that ?
#1273 [15:05] <lutzee> FLHerne: i know, but the new trinity APU's can probably match or conqure low end GPU's
#1274 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> FLHerne: popcorn is delicious and cheap.
#1275 [15:05] <pyromaniac> IKR lol
#1276 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> unless you're in a theatre.
#1277 [15:05] <theunpaidBill> Probably a bot FLHerne
#1278 [15:06] <FLHerne> lutzee: Yeah, but the CPU side of those is... :P
#1279 [15:06] <pyromaniac> whats a good cpu and why ?
#1280 [15:06] <lutzee> pyromaniac: anything by intel or AMD because they are the CPU market, honestly as long as you buy a modern day CPU you should be perfectly fine
#1281 [15:07] <blocks> quadcore amd is my fave cpu
#1282 [15:07] <blocks> because its very fast
#1283 [15:07] <pyromaniac> more cores the better ?
#1284 [15:07] <blocks> yep
#1285 [15:07] <lutzee> Don't listen to people sho say Intel is a must, because they are probably hardcore gamers
#1286 [15:07] <Deas> not really
#1287 [15:07] <FLHerne> AMD are a bit behind though
#1288 [15:07] <lutzee> No, 4 cores is plenty
#1289 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: generally, but you also want to look at the core speed
#1290 [15:07] * FLHerne is still looking at a new computer
#1290 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> a three core 3GHz CPU would have more power than a four core 1GHz CPU
#1291 [15:08] <Deas> it's not nessery always better with more cores
#1292 [15:08] <FLHerne> The price/performance/power-munching ratio isn't good for AMD :-(
#1293 [15:08] <pyromaniac> so speed is better than cores ?
#1294 [15:08] <lutzee> Games still aren't optimised properly for multicore gaming
#1295 [15:08] <Deas> it really depends on if the software is made to actually use them
#1296 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> FLHerne: I disagree
#1297 [15:08] <pyromaniac> windows 7 ?
#1298 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> I've been using AMD chips exclusively since the original Slot A Athlons
#1299 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> when doing apples-to-apples CPU comparisons, AMD blows Intel out of the water in terms of price
#1300 [15:09] <lutzee> pyromaniac: building a PC does require a bit of research, it will take a bit of time to explain everything you need to know
#1301 [15:09] <FLHerne> DopeGhoti: I'm still looking to buy an i3-3220 or low i5, would you mind telling me what AMD equivalent I can get?
#1302 [15:09] <lutzee> AMD is very good for price vs performance
#1303 [15:09] <pyromaniac> i5 ?
#1304 [15:09] <blocks> pyromaniac: i use vista. i tried widows 7 and i didnt like it. it depends on how you like windows to operate. id say get windows 8 when it comes avalible
#1305 [15:09] <FLHerne> Honest question, not trying to snipe or anything :-)
#1306 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/04/30/how-to-build-a-gaming-pc/ <-- Complete with videos. Enjoy!
#1307 [15:10] <FLHerne> pyromaniac: Linux :D
#1308 [15:10] <lutzee> FLHerne: you might want to take a look at the new AMD trinity CPU's :)
#1309 [15:10] <blocks> avalible in your area that is
#1310 [15:10] <FLHerne> Windows is slow, outdated and a pain to use :P
#1311 [15:10] <Deas> blocks: vista is windows 7 but with a better preformance
#1312 [15:10] <Deas> windows 7 is to be suggested rahter then vista
#1313 [15:11] <lutzee> Vista is annoying.. it won't map my home networks network drive (tried multiple drives now no luck)
#1314 [15:11] <Deas> or heck, go winXP, i'm still loving it
#1315 [15:11] <pyromaniac> what makes windows 7 better than vista ?
#1316 [15:11] * FLHerne looks at these Trinity things
#1316 [15:11] <FLHerne> Less bloat :P
#1317 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> FLHerne: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html
#1318 [15:11] * FLHerne hates that site :P
#1318 [15:11] <pyromaniac> xp is great but not all games support it
#1319 [15:11] <FLHerne> It's very broken :-(
#1320 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: in short, Windows 7 is Vista, with a partial suckectomy
#1321 [15:11] <Deas> that's bs
#1322 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> in fact, Windows 7 isn't really Windows &
#1323 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> It's Windows NT 6.1
#1324 [15:12] <blocks> Deas: i use vista because some server components i use are disabled in windows 7 because they want to force the use of iis and i need the tunnling that they disabled in win 7
#1325 [15:12] <pyromaniac> lol this is kinda like a pc vs mac thing
#1326 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: Macs _are_ PCs.
#1327 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> unless you're taling about XServes.
#1328 [15:13] <Deas> pyromaniac: a lot of games works on XP, don't get vista, if you must, get windows 7 instead, vista sucks and even microsoft themself said it's a bad version of windows 7 or something like that
#1329 [15:13] <lutzee> DopeGhoti: finally someone with the same resoning as me!
#1330 [15:13] <FLHerne> pyromaniac: Macs are a subset of PCs :P
#1331 [15:13] <pyromaniac> let me start lol MAC's suck pc's are better !!!!!
#1332 [15:13] <FLHerne> Just get Linux and be done with it :D
#1333 [15:13] <Scott> Vista isn't so bad now...
#1334 [15:13] * lutzee hates people who say macs aren't PC's..
#1334 [15:13] <pyromaniac> lol
#1335 [15:13] * FLHerne does too :-(
#1335 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> Scott: yeah, now that SP1, also known as Windows 7, has been released (:
#1336 [15:13] <Scott> MAC IS BETTERE OMGOMGOMG
#1337 [15:14] <lutzee> Scott: then make mine map my network drive :|
#1338 [15:14] <pyromaniac> water suck gatorade is better
#1339 [15:14] <blocks> Deas: i disagree vista like all os's have pros and cons
#1340 [15:14] <Scott> kthx
#1341 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> !topic undo
#1342 [15:14] <FLHerne> Anyone who claims a Mac isn't a personal computer is suffering from chronic idiocy :P
#1343 [15:14] <Deas> lutze and DopeGhoti: unix & linux != PC, please. but if you mean "Personal Computer" any OS is a PC
#1344 [15:14] <Scott> Noooooooooo!
#1345 [15:14] <Scott> DopeGhoti: how dare you!
#1346 [15:14] <FLHerne> Deas: Linux can be PC :P
#1347 [15:14] <Scott> Love thy mac.
#1348 [15:14] <pyromaniac> lol see
#1349 [15:14] * FLHerne has a Linux PC :P
#1349 [15:14] <lutzee> Deas: PC == Personal computer under any contex.
#1350 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> Any computer can be used for personal things.
#1351 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> with no regard to operarating system.
#1352 [15:15] <FLHerne> DopeGhoti: Rack servers aren't very good at it :P
#1353 [15:15] <blocks> ^^
#1354 [15:15] <lutzee> Infact, i could call my phone a PC if i so wished
#1355 [15:15] <Contex> Silly contexts.
#1356 [15:15] <FLHerne> Neither are command-line only OSs
#1357 [15:15] * Yeti|InHiding is now known as BranicYeti
#1358 [15:15] <Deas> lutzee, i just made the comparesion because people trend to call their windows computer for PC and a mac for a mac, even big companies does this
#1359 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> FLHerne: depends on what you install thereupon
#1360 [15:15] * FLHerne knows you *can* use a command-line for personal stuff, but would rather not bother :P
#1360 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> FLHerne: headless servers make perfectly find game servers, thankyouverymuch
#1361 [15:16] <FLHerne> DopeGhoti: That's stretching 'personal' though :P
#1362 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> Cell phones are the most personal computers in modern history.
#1363 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> so yes, lutzee, it would be quite correct to call your phone a PC>
#1364 [15:16] <blocks> Deas: wat do you think of centOS? i have it on my server and seems to do great
#1365 [15:16] <FLHerne> MP servers =/= personal
#1366 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> s/>/./
#1367 [15:16] <Deas> blocks: don't like yum
#1368 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> blocks: Personally, I don't like any RPM-based distros; I'd nudge you toward Debian or Ubuntu Server
#1369 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> but it works if you can deal with RPM Hell
#1370 [15:17] <pyromaniac> ill brb and PS: macs are slow and lag all the time
#1371 [15:17] <Selbram> what rpm hell?
#1372 [15:17] <Deas> blocks: other then that, it's a great serverOS
#1373 [15:17] <theunpaidBill> RPM hell was closed about 10 years ago
#1374 [15:17] <Selbram> ^
#1375 [15:17] <Scott> I am a linux systems administrator.
#1376 [15:17] <theunpaidBill> It's a myth propogated by debian fans. :-)
#1377 [15:17] <Selbram> so am I
#1378 [15:17] <blocks> ok ill see about upgrading to debian i seem to get that same responce from ppl
#1379 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> RPM Hell is when the RPM package manger loses track of what is or is not installed, making it is nightmare to fix and update
#1380 [15:17] <Scott> I routinely manage CentOS, Ubuntu, and many other distros at times.
#1381 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> theunpaidBill: I work with RHEL and CentOS boxen every day at work
#1382 [15:18] <Selbram> does not exsist anymore, yum is the shiz
#1383 [15:18] <Scott> Except Arch.
#1384 [15:18] <Scott> We don't support arch.
#1385 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> I assure you, RPM Hell still exists, and is a real place, where you will be sent at the first sign of defiance.
#1386 [15:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> ^
#1387 [15:18] <blocks> lol
#1388 [15:18] <Scott> DopeGhoti is right.
#1389 [15:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> arch is horrifying
#1390 [15:18] <Deas> i personally prefer debian
#1391 [15:18] <theunpaidBill> Must be a RH thing. My Suse boxes haven't ever blown up the rpm db
#1392 [15:18] <Selbram> I support Ubuntu and Redhat systems and that is a non issue
#1393 [15:18] <Scott> Arch isn't bad. It's just too customized to support.
#1394 [15:18] * andrewkm_ is now known as andrewkm
#1395 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> I've been using Ubuntu Server for my OS on several machines for years, and it's great
#1396 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> the Desktop edition? Not so much.
#1397 [15:19] * Deas never tried/used Arch
#1397 [15:19] <Scott> I have Ubuntu with Cinnamon installed, DopeGhoti.
#1398 [15:19] <FLHerne> pyromaniac: Apple's hardware is good. It's the OS that's pathetic :P
#1399 [15:19] <Scott> It's pretty nice.
#1400 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> Arch is Gentoo for lazy people, which is kind of hilarious
#1401 [15:19] <FLHerne> Scott: KDE4 > Cinnamon :P
#1402 [15:19] <Scott> I don't like KDE.
#1403 [15:19] <lutzee> I have ubuntu server 10.04 running on my own server,
#1404 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> FLHerne: actually, BSD is quite nice. The candy shell Apple coats it with, I could take or leave
#1405 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> but the BSD core of OSX is quite robust.
#1406 [15:19] <FLHerne> Scott: More configurabliity
#1407 [15:20] <Scott> I use OS X for pretty much everything though.
#1408 [15:20] <Scott> I prefer it.
#1409 [15:20] <FLHerne> DopeGhoti: Yeah, but you can get that on its ownwithout the stupidity :P
#1410 [15:20] <Scott> Even for work. :)
#1411 [15:20] * FLHerne installed KDE on his Macs :D
#1411 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> At work, I use Macs; at home, I use Linux, except when I reboot into Windows for gaming for games that don't play well with WINE
#1412 [15:21] <lutzee> pyromaniac: btw sorry, we got a bit off topic, for what you want, i think that this will be fine for your needs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220162 its at a very competitive price.
#1413 [15:22] <theunpaidBill> Most of people's preferences are based on what they know. From a technical standpoint most OS's and hardware are equally capable. The difference comes in the UI and the quality of the software.
#1414 [15:22] <blocks> theunpaidBill: i agree
#1415 [15:22] <theunpaidBill> I still hear about RPM dependency hell, but I haven't experienced it in about 10 years
#1416 [15:22] <davedavis256> ok I'm still trying to buy minecraft but can't. I'm getting a message "Credit/debit card deposits disabled" and I called my bank but they can't help. wtf
#1417 [15:23] <davedavis256> this game is impossible to buy
#1418 [15:23] <lutzee> davedavis256: that sounds like moneybookers blocking the payment, they will have enforeced a 24 hour cooldown period against your card
#1419 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> davedavis256: call the phone number on the back of the card
#1420 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> or better yes, use paypal
#1421 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> s/yes/yet/
#1422 [15:23] <davedavis256> paypal doesn't work either
#1423 [15:23] <Deas> davedavis256: go to the bank instead, you're most likely to get better support there then calling them
#1424 [15:23] <theunpaidBill> Scott doesn't like KDE. I don't like Gnome. Neither is right or wrong, just different.
#1425 [15:23] <davedavis256> 24 hour cooldown. that's bs I already called my bank
#1426 [15:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> xfce ftw
#1427 [15:24] <Scott> I don't like GNOME-Shell or Unity either.
#1428 [15:24] <lutzee> Your bank isn't enforcing the block, Moneybookers is who is Mojangs payment management service
#1429 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> WhereIsMySpoon: byobu uber alles.
#1430 [15:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> DopeGhoti: wut
#1431 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> BYOBU UBER ALLES, I said.
#1432 [15:24] <blocks> davedavis256: yes it is disabled atm because they are fixing some issues with the billing partner moneybookers credit card payments will be fixed asap
#1433 [15:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> DopeGhoti: what does that mean
#1434 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> literally, 'byobu over everything'
#1435 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> idiomatically, 'byobu is better than everything'
#1436 [15:25] <theunpaidBill> You're an emacs man Scott? :-)
#1437 [15:25] <davedavis256> seriously this game is too hard to buy. I'm getting tired of this.
#1438 [15:25] <Scott> theunpaidBill: no.
#1439 [15:25] <Scott> nano
#1440 [15:26] * lutzee also likes nano
#1440 [15:26] <FLHerne> davedavis256: Banks don't like sending money to Sweden :-(
#1441 [15:26] <blocks> davedavis256: give it a few days. be patient. there are some issues at this time. just wait and soon you will be able to buy the game with a credit card
#1442 [15:26] * Deas highfives lutzee for nano, aswell as Scott
#1442 [15:26] <davedavis256> I tried buying minecraft in beta and couldn't. now it costs more money
#1443 [15:27] <theunpaidBill> I usually wind up just suffering through vi
#1444 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> y'all should learn some vim (:
#1445 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> </jihad>
#1446 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> theunpaidBill: suffering?
#1447 [15:27] <lutzee> DopeGhoti: I knew someone would say that! ;p
#1448 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> theunpaidBill: when you have 20 minutes, run `vimtutor`. you'll thank me later.
#1449 [15:27] * Deas grabs that burning torch and slowly walks towards DopeGhoti
#1449 [15:27] <davedavis256> mojang should let someone in the us sell their game like amazon. their payment system stinks
#1450 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Deas: Hey! I said "</jihad>"!
#1451 [15:28] <theunpaidBill> I recognize it's capabilities, I just don't use it enough to memorize the key strokes, so it's not fun to use.
#1452 [15:28] <Deas> davedavis256: now now, calm down, it's not their fault
#1453 [15:28] <theunpaidBill> For big jobs I just use kwrite.
#1454 [15:28] <davedavis256> yeah well it's somebodies fault
#1455 [15:28] <lutzee> One of my course friends does all his programming in vim, but i always forget to usee any fancy key commbinations and do stuff the slower way :|
#1456 [15:28] <FLHerne> davedavis256: Paranoid US banks :P
#1457 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> lutzee: it was so painful to watch my former cow-orker who kept using vim like it was nano (:
#1458 [15:30] <Scott> DopeGhoti: That's me when a server doesn't have nano installed and doesn't have networking or the disk is readonly
#1459 [15:30] <pyromaniac> what are all the part i will need to make a pc ?
#1460 [15:30] <lutzee> Oh i bet it was!
#1461 [15:30] <davedavis256> I'd kinda hate to see my money transferred to nigeria without knowing about it though
#1462 [15:30] <lutzee> pyromaniac: i suggest using this site to document your build http://pcpartpicker.com/
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#1464 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> For anyone interested: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2170691/vi-vim-cheat-sheet-and-tutorial.pdf <-- vi/vim cheatcheat / tutorial taht's actually rather simple and effective
#1465 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: did you not see that link I gave you a while ago?
#1466 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> It should have answered that question for you
#1467 [15:31] <pyromaniac> no i dont think i did
#1468 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> one moment.
#1469 [15:31] <blocks> davedavis256: lastnight i forget where i read it but its not just you they completly disabled any credit card payments because moneybookers is having some system issues. im sorry i dont have a link to show you but if i see it again ill link it to you
#1470 [15:31] <theunpaidBill> Thanks DopeGhoti
#1471 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/04/30/how-to-build-a-gaming-pc/ <-- complete with videos
#1472 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> theunpaidBill: my pleasure
#1473 [15:32] <pyromaniac> thanks
#1474 [15:32] <davedavis256> paypal keeps charging me a dollar and transferring me back to minecraft.net which gives unhelpful error
#1475 [15:32] <lutzee> blocks: that has been re enabled,
#1476 [15:33] <blocks> ok lutzee thankyou i didnt know that
#1477 [15:33] <theunpaidBill> I have a bunch of Ubuntu server boxes I need to look at updating
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#1479 [15:33] <pyromaniac> ok how fast should a good cpu run ?
#1480 [15:33] <theunpaidBill> I might rebuild them as RH just so I can get the experience with RH
#1481 [15:33] <theunpaidBill> No one around here uses SLES
#1482 [15:33] <lutzee> blocks: if you have twitter follow @mollstam (there main web developer and online systems maintainance guy) and @Marc_IRL who is the lead support guy
#1483 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: 2.6 GHz or faster, preferably three to six cores if you're going with AMD
#1484 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> ask someone else about Intel
#1485 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> lutzee: "their"
#1486 [15:34] <pyromaniac> sry but AMD is ?
#1487 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: one of the two major CPU brands
#1488 [15:34] <lutzee> DopeGhoti: my english sucks, and i'm english :(
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#1490 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> lutzee: that's okay, my German sucks, and I'm American.
#1491 [15:34] <pyromaniac> lol same here
#1492 [15:34] <pyromaniac> lol nat about that lol
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#1496 [15:35] <FLHerne> pyromaniac: They're one of the two main CPU-makers
#1497 [15:35] <lutzee> The other is Intel
#1498 [15:35] <lutzee> Generally intel is more expensive
#1499 [15:35] <FLHerne> Intel being the other (and better just now IMO) one :-)
#1500 [15:35] <blocks> ok thankyou lutzee i will follow on twitter :)
#1501 [15:35] <pyromaniac> AMD or intel ?
#1502 [15:35] <lutzee> Intel's CPU's are better, but generally not worth the price point they are marketed at
#1503 [15:36] <FLHerne> lutzee: Sure? Good i3s still beat AMD stuff at the same price :P
#1504 [15:36] <lutzee> pyromaniac: for low end cheaper PC's AMD
#1505 [15:36] <FLHerne> The integrated GPUs are nice, but I have one anyway :P
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#1508 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> I just with AMD could get their GPU drivers together
#1509 [15:36] <pyromaniac> it wount let me link
#1510 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> I always feel wierd using non-AMD GPUs on my AMD-based systems
#1511 [15:37] <lutzee> It shold let you paste a link
#1512 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> but Catylist Suite is.. well, terrible
#1513 [15:37] <pyromaniac> cant paste
#1514 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> and their Linux driver support is also awful
#1515 [15:37] <lutzee> Yeah, AMD is terrible with linux support :(
#1516 [15:37] <pyromaniac> doesnt show anything when i right click
#1517 [15:37] <pyromaniac> odd
#1518 [15:38] <lutzee> pyromaniac: hit ctrl+v
#1519 [15:38] <blocks> i only use intel when i use linux
#1520 [15:38] <pyromaniac> http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd4170frgubox how is this ?
#1521 [15:39] <blocks> pyromaniac: thats nice man
#1522 [15:39] <lutzee> The FX chips aren't AMD's best creation, and i think there was a big emphasis on overclocking them which was a bad idea
#1523 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: looks good, but be sure the motherboard supports Socket AM3+ CPUs
#1524 [15:39] <pyromaniac> good price ?
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#1526 [15:40] <lutzee> The trinty CPU's look very affordable
#1527 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: depends on how bleeding-edge you want to be
#1528 [15:40] <lutzee> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113281
#1529 [15:40] <Shadow`> nothing wrong with fx when it comes to bang for buck
#1530 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> lutzee: 'CPUs'; not 'CPU's'.
#1531 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1532 [15:41] <lutzee> I'm just going to learn Japanese
#1533 [15:41] <pyromaniac> how so ?
#1534 [15:41] <lutzee> But anyway, DopeGhoti thats a brand new AMD trinity CPU for $110
#1535 [15:42] <pyromaniac> how much should a cpu cost ??
#1536 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> notbad.svg
#1537 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: it depends
#1538 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> but between $50 and $150
#1539 [15:42] <theunpaidBill> Server procs can go up to $1000
#1540 [15:42] <theunpaidBill> :-)
#1541 [15:42] <theunpaidBill> Be glad you just want a gaming box
#1542 [15:42] <pyromaniac> and by bleeding edge you mean ?
#1543 [15:43] <Shadow`> they shit for gaming anyways
#1544 [15:43] * lutzee points theunpaidBill towards the E5-2690 server CPU
#1544 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> theunpaidBill: there's mid-range, high-range, cutting-edge (top-tier but tested) and bleeding-edge (Just release, not well-tested and may be proven to be flaky)
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#1546 [15:44] <theunpaidBill> I think you meant that for pyromaniac
#1547 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> er, yes, I did
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#1549 [15:47] <AlexaCuevas> Hello, new to minecraft what does Esper and blight do or mean
#1550 [15:47] <DopeGhoti> Esper is the name of the IRC network in which you are presently communing
#1551 [15:47] <DopeGhoti> Blight is a pestilence or pox upon the land
#1552 [15:48] <AlexaCuevas> got, let me get back to the game, thanks
#1553 [15:48] <pyromaniac> so what should be the most costly part of a pc ?
#1554 [15:49] * Kane{-_-}zZ is now known as Kanegasi
#1555 [15:49] <AlexaCuevas> graphics card, RAM
#1556 [15:50] <pyromaniac> what should i be looking for in a Video Card ?
#1557 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: indeed, the GPU and possibly RAM would probably be the largest moneysinks
#1558 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> that or software
#1559 [15:50] <theunpaidBill> Monitor
#1560 [15:50] <theunpaidBill> If you go big
#1561 [15:50] <lutzee> pyromaniac: this is a little over $500 using that CPU that you linked http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jaio
#1562 [15:51] <theunpaidBill> But the video card is definitely one of the biggies if you want a high-end one
#1563 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: You're probably going to want a relatively beefy GPU
#1564 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> Look at the more recent GeForce GTX series, IIRC
#1565 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> it's been a while since I've shopped around, and they keep rejiggering their naming schemes.
#1566 [15:52] * theunpaidBill breaks out his "Nvidia fanboi" shirt
#1566 [15:52] <pyromaniac> dont need a cpu cooler ?
#1567 [15:52] <lutzee> they recently released the GTX 650's
#1568 [15:52] <lutzee> pyromaniac: one will come with your CPU
#1569 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> "Back in my day, it was just "Get the latest Voodoo card from 3dfx", dammit."
#1570 [15:53] <Deas> ...no soundcard?
#1571 [15:53] <theunpaidBill> Diamond Viper!
#1572 [15:53] <lutzee> Deas: it's pretty obvious you are a gamer.
#1573 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> Deas: most mobos these days come with perfectly acceptable onboard sound
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#1575 [15:53] <theunpaidBill> I remember upgrading the BIOS on the video card by replacing the chip
#1576 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> the days in which I'd require a Creative sound card are long since over
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#1578 [15:54] <AlexaCuevas> wow that was some time ago lol
#1579 [15:54] <Deas> lutzee: i'm as far away as you would call a gamer, but i know a few who is, however i must have quality sound
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#1581 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> Deas: Oh, I'm a huge audiophile
#1582 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> but most onboard sound is more than good enough these days. It used to be just as bad as onboard video, but generally speaking, that's a problem of the past.
#1583 [15:55] <pyromaniac> damn i hate that key on my keybord lol
#1584 [15:55] <pyromaniac> the back key
#1585 [15:55] <pyromaniac> its evil !!!!
#1586 [15:55] <lutzee> Hehe'
#1587 [15:55] <AlexaCuevas> lol
#1588 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: get a real IRC client (:
#1589 [15:56] <pyromaniac> IRC ?
#1590 [15:56] <lutzee> pyromaniac: Internet Relay chat, thats what this chatroom is
#1591 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> ?? IRC
#1592 [15:56] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1593 [15:56] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1594 [15:56] <theunpaidBill> Someone take this boy as a padawan before he hurts himself.
#1595 [15:56] <theunpaidBill> :-)
#1596 [15:56] <lutzee> You can get client programs for you computer that will connect that is better than the web interface you are using
#1597 [15:56] <pyromaniac> lol
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#1599 [15:57] <Deas> DopeGhoti: i need a soundcard for my 5.1 speakers (:
#1600 [15:57] <AlexaCuevas> My young Padawan, you can become a true Jedi in no time
#1601 [15:57] <pyromaniac> whats a good one to get ???
#1602 [15:57] <lutzee> I use hexchat
#1603 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> Deas: I used to (:
#1604 [15:57] <pyromaniac> is it free ?? or does it cost ?
#1605 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> pyromaniac: I like irssi, but you might be more at home with x-chat or y-chat.
#1606 [15:57] <lutzee> pyromaniac: hexchat is free
#1607 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> all three of which cost exactly zero dollars.
#1608 [15:58] <pyromaniac> thats my favorate price :)
#1609 [15:58] <AlexaCuevas> mine too!
#1610 [15:59] <pyromaniac> lol
#1611 [15:59] <lutzee> I like it when people give me money to take something off thier hands.
#1612 [15:59] <pyromaniac> is the IRC the reason it says dooo every time i send a message ?
#1613 [15:59] <AlexaCuevas> Gotta go, nice chatting with ya! My mining partner just logged in
#1614 [15:59] <pyromaniac> bye
#1615 [16:00] <lutzee> pyromaniac: whenever we mention your name like we just have it will ping you and make a sound :)
#1616 [16:00] <lutzee> pyromaniac: whenever we mention your name like we just have it will ping you and make a sound :)
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#1619 [16:00] <pyromaniac> no i hear no ping from u lol its when i message i hear a ping
#1620 [16:01] <pyromaniac> every time lol
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#1622 [16:01] <lutzee> Odd, maybe iris is broken
#1623 [16:01] <lutzee> Oh wait...
#1624 [16:01] <lutzee> what is PJIRC?
#1625 [16:02] <pyromaniac> idk ?
#1626 [16:02] <lutzee> Thats the client you are using O.o
#1627 [16:02] <pyromaniac> idk what that is lol
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#1629 [16:03] <lutzee> I kind of assumed you were connected via webchat.esper.net
#1630 [16:04] <pyromaniac> naa that one doent like to work for me
#1631 [16:04] <pyromaniac> http://www.worldofminecraft.com
#1632 [16:04] <pyromaniac> that what im using i think
#1633 [16:04] <pyromaniac> thats*
#1634 [16:05] <lutzee> Ahh right, linked from the WoM website
#1635 [16:05] <lutzee> Most people google IRC and get mibbit >.>
#1636 [16:05] <lutzee> Or mIRC >.>
#1637 [16:05] <pyromaniac> mibbit or hexchat ???
#1638 [16:06] <lutzee> mibbit is horrible
#1639 [16:06] <lutzee> Get hexchat
#1640 [16:06] <pyromaniac> ok then
#1641 [16:06] <pyromaniac> it says i have to close all aplacations does that includes this page ?
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#1643 [16:07] <lutzee> er
#1644 [16:07] <pyromaniac> god i suck at spelling
#1645 [16:07] <pyromaniac> lol if only i had spellchecker
#1646 [16:08] <pyromaniac> apps
#1647 [16:08] <pyromaniac> its says to close all apps would that be this page ?
#1648 [16:08] <lutzee> You can always return here
#1649 [16:09] <lutzee> we aren't going anyway
#1650 [16:09] <lutzee> nywhere*
#1651 [16:09] <pyromaniac> ok lol u still have to tell me how to work the hexchat anyhoo
#1652 [16:10] <pyromaniac> and these pings are anoying
#1653 [16:10] <pyromaniac> ill brb
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#1657 [16:15] <pyromaniac> ok now what lol ?
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#1660 [16:16] <lutzee> Um, well if hexchat is open you'll want to add a network
#1661 [16:16] <pyromaniac> and what should i add ?
#1662 [16:16] <lutzee> name Should be Esper (so you know what it is)
#1663 [16:17] <lutzee> then press edit with that network highlighted
#1664 [16:17] <pyromaniac> a sec
#1665 [16:17] <lutzee> you'll need to change where it says newserver/6667 to irc.esper.net then press enter
#1666 [16:19] <pyromaniac> now it says irc.esper.net now what ?
#1667 [16:19] <lutzee> add a a favourite channel #minecrafthelp
#1668 [16:20] <lutzee> then press close
#1669 [16:20] <pyromaniac> i dont see any fav option
#1670 [16:20] <lutzee> Hmm there should be
#1671 [16:21] <pyromaniac> it says i can favor the irc.esper.net
#1672 [16:21] <pyromaniac> is that it ?
#1673 [16:21] <lutzee> no, don't put that in there
#1674 [16:21] <lutzee> put #minecrafthelp in the "favourite channels" box
#1675 [16:21] <pyromaniac> oh i see lol i missed a message
#1676 [16:21] <pyromaniac> edit
#1677 [16:22] <pyromaniac> now ?
#1678 [16:22] <pyromaniac> now what do i do ?
#1679 [16:23] <pyromaniac> its faved
#1680 [16:23] <pyromaniac> and closed
#1681 [16:23] <pyromaniac> hexchat is still up tho should i close it too ?
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#1683 [16:24] <lutzee> pyromaniac: should look like this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/esper.png
#1684 [16:25] <lutzee> Anyway, my friends are online, going to play minecraft.. :)
#1685 [16:27] <pyromaniac> bye
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#1688 [16:27] <theunpaidBill> People here actually *play* minecraft too?!
#1689 [16:27] <pyromaniac3814> i think it worked
#1690 [16:29] <pyromaniac3814> am i the only one left ?
#1691 [16:29] <theunpaidBill> Patience young padawan
#1692 [16:29] <lutzee> sorry, yes it worked :)
#1693 [16:29] <pyromaniac3814> lol i see master
#1694 [16:30] <pyromaniac3814> whats the differance besides it doesnt ping every time i message ?
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#1697 [16:32] <lutzee> it's a proper IRC client :p
#1698 [16:32] <lutzee> Works well
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#1700 [16:33] <pyromaniac3814> how so ?
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#1703 [16:33] <theunpaidBill> Well it won't blow up if you browse to a bad web page
#1704 [16:33] <theunpaidBill> For 1 thing
#1705 [16:33] <pyromaniac3814> yay i can change the font
#1706 [16:33] <Raphy963> Hi, i can't connect with my migrated account on minecraft.net
#1707 [16:34] <Marc_IRL> Are you using your email to log in?
#1708 [16:35] <Raphy963> YEs
#1709 [16:35] <Marc_IRL> Are you getting a specific error?
#1710 [16:35] <lutzee> Good day Marc :)
#1711 [16:35] <Raphy963> The page is refreshed, no error message
#1712 [16:35] <Raphy963> Wait, marc your in the Mojang Support right?
#1713 [16:36] <Marc_IRL> That's me
#1714 [16:36] <Raphy963> Sorry for the caps : GREAT!
#1715 [16:36] <Marc_IRL> I pop in here from time to time
#1716 [16:36] <Raphy963> I just bought Minecraft today and i needed to buy it with the Mojang Website
#1717 [16:36] <Marc_IRL> So the site just isn't letting you log in? No errors or anything?
#1718 [16:36] <Selbram> Mark_IRL, I send an email ticket in earlier today as well. I migrated about a week ago and cannot login to the minecraft.net website. No error.
#1719 [16:37] <Raphy963> No error or anything, with chrome and Explorer it refresh the login page and with firefox it redirect me to the index but i'm not logged
#1720 [16:37] * theunpaidBill thinks Marc_IRL is going to regret showing up in here
#1720 [16:37] <Marc_IRL> Selbram: our turnaround time is a bit longer than earlier today :-/
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#1722 [16:37] <Selbram> I am just saying the issue is similar if not the same. :)
#1723 [16:37] <Raphy963> I tryed with a free acount and it works, i think the migration failed
#1724 [16:37] <Selbram> I kinda thought it would have been reported a while back but I could be wrong.
#1725 [16:37] <Raphy963> And sorry for my bad english, i'm from Quebec and i speak french
#1726 [16:37] <lutzee> theunpaidBill: Hes been here before.
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#1728 [16:38] <Marc_IRL> What's the username?
#1729 [16:38] <Raphy963> The one i tryed : kleptyc but the one i bought premium is raphy963
#1730 [16:39] <Selbram> Marc_IRL: SelbramWolf
#1731 [16:39] <Raphy963> I can connect with the client but i look like a 12 years old griefer and i don'T appreciate that :P
#1732 [16:39] <Selbram> I am patient and will happily wait however long.
#1733 [16:40] <Marc_IRL> Sorry if I'm not understanding, but why try to log in with your non-premium account?
#1734 [16:40] <Marc_IRL> You should be able to log in with raphy963 using your email and Mojang account password
#1735 [16:41] <Raphy963> I wanted to know if it was the website or my account
#1736 [16:41] <Raphy963> I will try again
#1737 [16:41] <Marc_IRL> Btw, when you migrated, you changed your email, so make sure you're using the right one
#1738 [16:41] <ThisGuy> I am having an issue that when useing my inventory list, nothing will be seen in it, but u cna see it on the bottom, not in the inventory. Also when in creative, using decora, when i scroll down everything moves out of place. This all went wrong yestorday. BY takeing and added mods from the mods file, i found out its buildcraft causeing this, when i go on a diffrent map everthing is fine. So how do i fix the map so it wil
#1739 [16:41] <Raphy963> I can't connect with my email
#1740 [16:42] <Raphy963> Now i get Unknown Username
#1741 [16:43] <Marc_IRL> You'd get an unknown username error if you tried to use your username to log in, because a Mojang-purchased Minecraft account has never been in the Minecraft system
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#1743 [16:43] <Raphy963> No no, i try with my email and it was working but now i get unknown username
#1744 [16:43] <Raphy963> Yes, i purchased it with Mojang because the shop was broken this morning
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#1746 [16:44] <Marc_IRL> Unknown username, or "Unknown username or password"?
#1747 [16:44] <ThisGuy> I am having an issue that when useing my inventory list, nothing will be seen in it, but u cna see it on the bottom, not in the inventory. Also when in creative, using decora, when i scroll down everything moves out of place. This all went wrong yestorday. BY takeing and added mods from the mods file, i found out its buildcraft causeing this, when i go on a diffrent map everthing is fine. So how do i fix the map so it wil
#1748 [16:44] <Raphy963> or password
#1749 [16:44] <Raphy963> I changed my password wait
#1750 [16:44] <Marc_IRL> So you're using either the wrong email or password
#1751 [16:44] <Marc_IRL> You changed your password 17 minutes ago
#1752 [16:45] <pyromaniac3814> @lutzee can i connect to other rooms on other websites ?
#1753 [16:45] <Raphy963> Wait, i will try with the previous email
#1754 [16:45] <lutzee> pyromaniac3814: any in particular?
#1755 [16:45] <Raphy963> Nope, now with the email i registred on mojang, it said Unknown username or password
#1756 [16:45] <Raphy963> I can give you the transaction ID if you want
#1757 [16:45] <Marc_IRL> Your Mojang account is associated with d**********63@hotmail.com
#1758 [16:46] <Raphy963> Yup
#1759 [16:46] <ShaRose> lol
#1760 [16:46] <hdcool09__> minecraft session server down?
#1761 [16:46] * hdcool09__ is now known as hdcool09
#1762 [16:46] <Marc_IRL> one sec, I'll just try to log in as you. I'll need to reset your password though.
#1763 [16:46] <Raphy963> No problem
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#1765 [16:46] <ShaRose> you'd think that VoxelHead'd not mute ops
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#1767 [16:47] <lutzee> hdcool09: nope, they are fine
#1768 [16:47] <pyromaniac3814> @lutzee idk what it is how do i tell ?
#1769 [16:47] <lutzee> which websites? :p
#1770 [16:47] <hdcool09> strange
#1771 [16:47] <hdcool09> can't login to 3+ servers
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#1774 [16:47] <Mike__> would anyone here be willing to look at my error through TeamViewer
#1775 [16:48] <mib_gooa89> What does DNS mean?
#1776 [16:48] <pyromaniac3814> the website is http://rratedplayers.webs.com
#1777 [16:48] <Selbram> Marc_IRL: Umm, I just tried to login to minecraft.net with my mojang account and it appears to have worked. I tried earlier today with no success and a few times during the last week. You did something that fixed my account.
#1778 [16:48] <pyromaniac3814> me and my friends use there room to chat with
#1779 [16:48] <Marc_IRL> I haven't gotten to your account yet
#1780 [16:48] <hdcool09> Mike__,
#1781 [16:48] <hdcool09> I can try to help
#1782 [16:48] <Mike__> thx
#1783 [16:49] <Selbram> That is terribly interesting then.
#1784 [16:49] <Raphy963> This is a miracle
#1785 [16:49] <mib_gooa89> Are the servers down.... as in login verrifacation is messed up again?
#1786 [16:49] <lutzee> pyromaniac3814: um, the app isn't loading i can't tell what IRC network they are on :/
#1787 [16:49] * trekkie1701c [trekkie1701c@notlogged] has quit. (Quit: :P)
#1788 [16:49] <pyromaniac3814> hmm
#1789 [16:49] <pyromaniac3814> i think its xat
#1790 [16:49] <Marc_IRL> Lovely, I'm in the room for all of five seconds before someone finds an error I haven't seen before
#1791 [16:50] <Marc_IRL> Raphy963: You win a prize
#1792 [16:50] <Raphy963> ?
#1793 [16:50] <mib_gooa89> :P (Testing)
#1794 [16:50] <mib_gooa89> lol
#1795 [16:50] <Marc_IRL> I can't log into minecraft.net as you either
#1796 [16:50] <Raphy963> Yayyy
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#1798 [16:50] <Raphy963> I will give you my transaction ID
#1799 [16:50] <Selbram> And Marc_IRL, you rock for being here! :)
#1800 [16:50] <Marc_IRL> Have you emailed this into us before?
#1801 [16:51] <Raphy963> Yes, i sended a ticket and i saw you here
#1802 [16:51] <pyromaniac3814> @lutzee does xat sound right ?
#1803 [16:51] <Marc_IRL> okay, I'm going to find that ticket, add some notes to it, and then send it to our web devs. I usually get it back within 24 hours.
#1804 [16:51] <Raphy963> So, now i can't play Minecraft ?
#1805 [16:51] <lutzee> pyromaniac3814: i'm not sure then, it's a flash application, and they never give any information about what they are, somehow i dobt its using an IRC protocol
#1806 [16:52] <pyromaniac3814> i doubt it
#1807 [16:52] <Raphy963> Client : Too many failed login
#1808 [16:52] <Marc_IRL> I just logged into the client as you
#1809 [16:52] <Raphy963> Well, this is very weird what can i do? I want to play and change my skin
#1810 [16:53] <Marc_IRL> Your login error only seems to be affecting minecraft.net
#1811 [16:53] <Raphy963> No, now i can't connect with the client
#1812 [16:53] <Raphy963> Too many failed logins, you changed my password?
#1813 [16:53] <pyromaniac3814> @lutzee could i host a irc or something ??
#1814 [16:54] <lutzee> pyromaniac3814: you can make you own chatroom on this network by just doing /join #<channelname>
#1815 [16:54] <lutzee> Asuming the channel doesn't allready exit it will be created for you
#1816 [16:54] <pyromaniac3814> sweet
#1817 [16:54] <Marc_IRL> If it says too many failed logins, I think that's just on a timer or something. I would reset your password at https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request, wait for the failed logins timer to go away, and wait to hear back from me on that email. The web devs need to look at the code for this issue.
#1818 [16:54] <Marc_IRL> Because your actual account looks okay
#1819 [16:55] <pyromaniac3814> @lutzee how do i make it beep when you message me ?
#1820 [16:55] <Raphy963> Ok and i buyed a second minecraft premium account for my friend with the Shop on minecraft.net and it worked and he can change his skin and he have no problem
#1821 [16:55] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, I dunno, this is the only account I've seen do this so far
#1822 [16:55] <lutzee> pyromaniac3814: settings > preferances > alerts
#1823 [16:55] <Raphy963> This is my most lucky day
#1824 [16:55] <lutzee> tick those that say beep when
#1825 [16:56] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, sorry :-/
#1826 [16:56] <Raphy963> Atleast, can you change my skin?
#1827 [16:56] <hdcool09> Marc_IRL <3
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#1829 [16:57] <Raphy963> Sweet, now i can't connect to my Mojang account
#1830 [16:58] <Marc_IRL> You'd need to be able to log into Minecraft.net to change your skin, so not until the issue is fixed
#1831 [16:58] <Marc_IRL> You can't log into your Mojang account because the password was reset. Did you go to the URL I listed above to change it back?
#1832 [16:58] <Raphy963> :/ Wbe k
#1833 [16:58] <Raphy963> Sorry :D
#1834 [16:58] <Raphy963> yes, but i didn't received the message
#1835 [16:58] <Raphy963> :/ When will the Web Team will fix my issue?
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#1837 [16:59] <Marc_IRL> I usually get emails back from them the next day
#1838 [16:59] * notch is now known as Guest74020
#1839 [17:00] <Raphy963> So it should be fixed tomorrow?
#1840 [17:00] <Marc_IRL> I don't have any way of knowing that, since I don't know what the problem is
#1841 [17:00] <Guest74020> http://pastie.org/4894553 is my error code pleeeeease help!!!
#1842 [17:00] <Raphy963> Guest, you should install Windows 7 first
#1843 [17:01] <Guest74020> do u think that will work
#1844 [17:01] <lutzee> Guest74020: thats a DxDiag report, i am asuming you have graphics driver issues
#1845 [17:01] <lutzee> ??> Guest74020 gpu/amd
#1846 [17:01] <VoxelHead> Guest74020: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#1847 [17:01] <Guest74020> thanks ill try it
#1848 [17:02] <Raphy963> Marc, you logged with my account on minecraft.net succesfully?
#1849 [17:03] <Guest74020> its downloading
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#1851 [17:04] <Marc_IRL> no
#1852 [17:04] <Marc_IRL> 13:50] <Marc_IRL> I can't log into minecraft.net as you either
#1853 [17:04] <Raphy963> Oh
#1854 [17:05] <Guest74020> its installing
#1855 [17:05] <Raphy963> I think you live in asia or something like this, (this is so off topic)
#1856 [17:05] <Guest74020> express or custom install???
#1857 [17:06] <Raphy963> ...
#1858 [17:06] <Raphy963> Site is currently experiencing severe intermittent performance issues. Counter-action is being called into service. Is my problem included in this ?
#1859 [17:06] <Guest74020> voxelhead: express or custom installation
#1860 [17:07] <Raphy963> You can't install driver or what?
#1861 [17:07] <Raphy963> Express
#1862 [17:07] <Marc_IRL> Again, I have no idea. I can't see the web or server code, which is why I've assigned the issue to a web developer.
#1863 [17:07] <Guest74020> ok
#1864 [17:07] <lutzee> Guest74020: express
#1865 [17:07] <lutzee> Guest74020: VoxelHead is a bot
#1866 [17:07] <Raphy963> Ok, he can contact him on my hotmail if he want
#1867 [17:08] <Guest74020> its working
#1868 [17:08] <Marc_IRL> It'll be from whatever email you sent the ticket in from
#1869 [17:08] <Raphy963> he can contact me*
#1870 [17:08] <Raphy963> Ok
#1871 [17:08] <Raphy963> Thanks, i will wait for him response and wish that it will be fixed tomorrow
#1872 [17:09] * Selbram is now known as Selbram|away
#1873 [17:10] <pyromaniac3814> @lutzee im working on changing the sound file for the beep lol its so anoying
#1874 [17:10] <pyromaniac3814> a starcraft sound should work
#1875 [17:11] <Raphy963> Ok, there is worst that it was, i can't connect to minecraft and i just reseted my password, too many failed logins. Minecraft.net say Unknown Username or password but i can connect on Mojang
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#1877 [17:11] <Raphy963> This is my most lucky day
#1878 [17:12] <Raphy963> Why me?
#1879 [17:12] <Raphy963> Why me?
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#1881 [17:13] <Guest74020> still installing
#1882 [17:17] <pyromaniac3814> could somebody message at me plz ? lol
#1883 [17:17] <Guest74020> k i pressed finish do i have to do anything else???
#1884 [17:17] <Guest74020> (voxelhead)
#1885 [17:17] <lutzee> Guest74020: try play minecraft
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#1887 [17:17] <Guest74020> k
#1888 [17:17] <lutzee> pyromaniac3814: here :p
#1889 [17:18] <pyromaniac3814> aww i didnt work lol
#1890 [17:18] <pyromaniac3814> ill try something else
#1891 [17:18] <pyromaniac3814> thanks anyhow
#1892 [17:18] <Guest74020> no #### way!!! it works u guys r awesome
#1893 [17:19] <Guest74020> bye
#1894 [17:19] <Raphy963> ok....
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#1896 [17:19] <Raphy963> Here we go, another kid who are too lazy to write full word on minecraft, will he be able to change his skin?
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#1899 [17:21] <Megasonic729> Hello
#1900 [17:21] <Megasonic729> Anyone here to help me?
#1901 [17:21] <Raphy963> Whatever, i'll go play some skyrim, thanks Marc_IRL and it will be great if my issue is fixed tomorrow
#1902 [17:21] <FLHerne> Megasonic729: Hi :-)
#1903 [17:21] <Megasonic729> I need some major help
#1904 [17:21] <Megasonic729> I have emailed Mojang twice now
#1905 [17:21] <FLHerne> What with?
#1906 [17:22] <Megasonic729> I had my transaction ID and everything
#1907 [17:22] <FLHerne> If you bought an account yesterday or the day before, there are known issues
#1908 [17:22] <ShaRose> Megasonic729 how long did you wait
#1909 [17:22] <Megasonic729> my account has apparently been compremised
#1910 [17:22] <Raphy963> I think you have the same issue of me Megasonic729
#1911 [17:22] <Megasonic729> its been 4 days :/
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#1913 [17:22] <Raphy963> You buyed it on minecraft.net or on Mojang?
#1914 [17:23] <Megasonic729> minecraft.net
#1915 [17:23] <Raphy963> Migrated account?
#1916 [17:23] <ShaRose> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1917 [17:23] <Megasonic729> Yes
#1918 [17:23] <Raphy963> You can't connect on minecraft.net?
#1919 [17:23] <lutzee> Marc_IRL: i think your assistance is needed :)
#1920 [17:23] <FLHerne> Read http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/765626-paid-on-october-1-but-no-premium and http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can’t-purchase-minecraft ? Is either applicable?
#1921 [17:23] <Megasonic729> They should've gotten back to me by now
#1922 [17:24] <Megasonic729> I bought this game more than a year ago
#1923 [17:24] <pyromaniac3814> could i get another message at me plz
#1924 [17:24] <Marc_IRL> hmm?
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#1926 [17:24] <ShaRose> Megasonic729 clearly you didn't read the article :P
#1927 [17:24] <Raphy963> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back- I will have to wait too or what?
#1928 [17:25] <conorcool09> i cant connect to minecraft purchased it today an java seems to be blocking it from running, anyone be able to help?
#1929 [17:25] <lutzee> Marc_IRL: he thinks his account has been comprimised, i guess the migrate + change email thing again, he says he has a couple of tickets open, but it's only been 4 days so you haven't got to them
#1930 [17:25] <Megasonic729> I did read it
#1931 [17:26] <FLHerne> conorcool09: Exact error?
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#1933 [17:27] <Marc_IRL> Megasonic729: username?
#1934 [17:27] <Megasonic729> Megasonic729
#1935 [17:27] <conorcool09> exact error??
#1936 [17:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> !paid Megasonic729
#1937 [17:28] <Raphy963> !paid
#1938 [17:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> ...
#1939 [17:28] * WhereIsMySpoon slaps AuBot around a bit
#1939 [17:28] <Marc_IRL> Does the email end in rocketmail.com or skyblock.us?
#1940 [17:29] <Megasonic729> rocketmail.com
#1941 [17:29] <Marc_IRL> Last question, how easy to guess was your previous password? :-/
#1942 [17:29] <Megasonic729> No, I had it pretty specific, it wouldve taken forever to guess
#1943 [17:29] <Marc_IRL> Hrm. Well, I'll fix that, one sec.
#1944 [17:30] <Raphy963> Your lucky man
#1945 [17:30] <Marc_IRL> Someone migrated your account on sept 22nd
#1946 [17:30] <Megasonic729> Yea, it wasn't me
#1947 [17:30] <Megasonic729> I played it a few days before
#1948 [17:31] <Marc_IRL> I put the email back to what it used to be. Migrating accounts is harder and more secure nowadays, so... not sure how someone else could have done it unless they either knew a lot about you, or had access to your email account.
#1949 [17:31] <Megasonic729> ok
#1950 [17:31] <Marc_IRL> Go here to reset your password, and you should be all set https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#1951 [17:31] <Megasonic729> Thanks!
#1952 [17:31] <Marc_IRL> no problem
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#1954 [17:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> Marc_IRL: you're a mojang employee?
#1955 [17:32] <ShaRose> yes he is
#1956 [17:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> zomg its sharose o:
#1957 [17:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> and ok
#1958 [17:32] <Megasonic729> Woot!
#1959 [17:32] <Raphy963> Why Mojang don't have a phone number or a live chat with more support? It would be so much better
#1960 [17:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> because they dont have the numbers for it
#1961 [17:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> phone support involves hiring lots of people
#1962 [17:33] <lutzee> Raphy963: because it is such a small company they do not have the resources to facilitate such a service
#1963 [17:33] <Raphy963> 7,593,264 people bought the game
#1964 [17:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> they'd need more people on phones than they currently have employed
#1965 [17:34] <Marc_IRL> I don't think a call center would ever be feasible. It'd require far more people than we currently have. Right now, four people can do somewhere around 600 emails a day. Live support drops those numbers WAY down.
#1966 [17:34] <Raphy963> 26$ CAD x 7 593 264
#1967 [17:34] <lutzee> Raphy963: this is the list of employees at mojang http://www.mojang.com/about/ (minus a few)
#1968 [17:34] <Marc_IRL> We'd need to have a call center, staff who spoke multiple languages, someone to run and schedule the call center, multiple people on shift at any given time... basically, double the size of the company, and have obscene costs for little benefit over emails.
#1969 [17:34] * Contex is now known as Contex|Away
#1970 [17:35] * lutzee points out to marc that that page probably needs updating :p
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#1971 [17:35] <Marc_IRL> I used to help manage a call center, so you'll have to trust me on this one. As for live chat help... it's an option being considered after we're caught up on emails, but I think that even that would require more staff.
#1972 [17:35] <Marc_IRL> (I also used to do live chat, at my old job)
#1973 [17:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> I think mojang would get too many live chat requests from 13 yo fanboys =/
#1974 [17:36] <conorcool09> why cant i access a game ive paid for it, so why when i went throu all the downloading and double clicked on the game i keep recieveing a msg back from java, ( could not create the java virtual machine??
#1975 [17:36] <Raphy963> OMG THIS IS NOTCH OMG OMG
#1976 [17:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> ^
#1977 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> WhereIsMySpoon: Yeah, that too. We still get emails that start "dear Notch"
#1978 [17:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> Marc_IRL: why am i not surprised
#1979 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> Also, emails about Herobrine
#1980 [17:37] <Raphy963> And in christmas it's Dear santa claus but it's not the Santa Claus
#1981 [17:37] <Boreeas> "Dear Notch, fix mah minecraft. Thanks"
#1982 [17:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> conorcool09: reinstall java
#1983 [17:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> java/reinstall
#1984 [17:37] <Raphy963> deàârr nôòotchh
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#1986 [17:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> bah
#1987 [17:37] <Marc_IRL> Anyway, we're getting faster. Last month, we had a backlog of 2.5 months. Due to some temps, I think we knocked it down to about two weeks, and still falling.
#1988 [17:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> needs to be added
#1989 [17:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> Marc_IRL: \o/
#1990 [17:38] <FLHerne> conorcool09: It's not possible to avoid every possible instalation difficulty, ever ;-)
#1991 [17:38] <conorcool09> done so many times (whereismyspoon) still nothing!!
#1992 [17:38] <Raphy963> And the game is pretty simple : create blocks, destroy blocks
#1993 [17:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> conorcool09: send us the hid_err_report
#1994 [17:38] <lutzee> ??> conorcool09 win/dxdiag
#1995 [17:38] <FLHerne> conorcool09: What version of java?
#1996 [17:38] <VoxelHead> conorcool09: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1997 [17:38] <VoxelHead> conorcool09: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1998 [17:38] <Marc_IRL> Okay, I'm heading out for now, I have to bury my head in the payment issue from yesterday. That should all be fixed within a day or two.
#1999 [17:38] <Raphy963> Ok!
#2000 [17:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> GL :)
#2001 [17:39] <Raphy963> Thank you
#2002 [17:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> have a good one
#2003 [17:39] <Raphy963> Gonna play some skyrim, Fus ro dah :D
#2004 [17:39] <lutzee> Have a good night marc o/
#2005 [17:39] <lutzee> >.>
#2006 [17:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#2007 [17:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
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#2009 [17:39] <Raphy963> Java
#2010 [17:39] * Spudstabber is now known as Spud|Away
#2011 [17:39] <Raphy963> Well VoxelHead is not Word Sensitive
#2012 [17:41] <Raphy963> Dear notch, i want to play with you on my server can you come the IP is 127.0.0.1:25885 byhe
#2013 [17:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> XD
#2014 [17:41] <Raphy963> Dear steve, no, notch
#2015 [17:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> STEVE?
#2016 [17:42] <Raphy963> MExican skin
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#2018 [17:44] <pyromaniac3814> could you message at me plz ?
#2019 [17:45] * WhereIsMySpoon messages at pyromaniac3814
#2019 [17:45] <pyromaniac3814> sweet
#2020 [17:45] <pyromaniac3814> thanks
#2021 [17:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> np
#2022 [17:46] <pyromaniac3814> @lutzee i used a scorched sound file but i had to convert it to wav format lol
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#2024 [17:47] <pyromaniac3814> now it works
#2025 [17:48] <pyromaniac3814> yay for nuke sirins
#2026 [17:48] <pyromaniac3814> i have a question
#2027 [17:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> run, quick
#2028 [17:48] <pyromaniac3814> lol
#2029 [17:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: ask and ye shall receive
#2030 [17:49] <pyromaniac3814> how many gigs of ram does minecraft need or should have to run well
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#2034 [17:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: server or single player
#2035 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Total, or free?
#2036 [17:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: if server, how many players
#2037 [17:49] <pyromaniac3814> 8
#2038 [17:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> gig is fine
#2039 [17:49] <CoolGamer> I tryed to buy minecraft and 24 hours has passed but my credit card is still under the 24 hour lockdown
#2040 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> gig of ram free
#2041 [17:50] <CoolGamer> tried*
#2042 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> CoolGamer - Try paypal
#2043 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> the 24 hour lockout is due to moneybookers.
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#2045 [17:50] <CoolGamer> it says it cannot be lifted manually
#2046 [17:51] <CoolGamer> idI wish it would just let me use my card
#2047 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes, under moneybookers
#2048 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> You'll have no problems if you use your card under paypal
#2049 [17:51] <CoolGamer> ok
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#2051 [17:53] <hotwheel> whats a website that can increase my speed on minecraft?
#2052 [17:54] <Grim_Reaper> ISP
#2053 [17:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> wat
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#2055 [17:54] <Grim_Reaper> sarcastic reply ~
#2056 [17:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> Grim_Reaper: i know :p
#2057 [17:54] <Grim_Reaper> There is no site that can increase your speed on minecraft
#2058 [17:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> also speed = ???
#2059 [17:54] <Grim_Reaper> You need to upgrade your net speed if you're meaning speed in terms of multiplayer
#2060 [17:54] <Grim_Reaper> If you want the game to run faster in terms of performance/fps
#2061 [17:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> or play on a not laggy server
#2062 [17:55] <hotwheel> graphic speed...
#2063 [17:55] <Grim_Reaper> You need to upgrade your computer
#2064 [17:55] <hotwheel> whats a good website
#2065 [17:55] <Grim_Reaper> A good site to buy parts is amazon.com if I recall
#2066 [17:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> www.scan.co.uk
#2067 [17:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> awesome parts site
#2068 [17:55] <hotwheel> thanks
#2069 [17:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> use it a lot
#2070 [17:56] <hotwheel> what can make my internet faster that i don't have to buy?
#2071 [17:56] <Grim_Reaper> Nothing really =\
#2072 [17:56] <CoolGamer> I sent a email to MoneyBookers, I am now going to use PayPal
#2073 [17:56] <Grim_Reaper> The best thing you can do
#2074 [17:56] <Grim_Reaper> Is make sure nothing else is using your internet
#2075 [17:56] <Grim_Reaper> Like downloading/skype etc
#2076 [17:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> hotwheel: use wired connection if you can, make sure nobody else is using ur connection, other than that nothing
#2077 [17:57] <Grim_Reaper> But it wont make a very big difference unless you're actually downloading something
#2078 [17:57] <Grim_Reaper> Also yeah as WhereIsMySpoon said. It's better to use an ethernet cable then connect to the internet wirelessly
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#2080 [17:57] <hotwheel> i am using a cable
#2081 [17:58] <hotwheel> and theres nothing i can delete
#2082 [17:58] <Grim_Reaper> Then just make sure nobody else is using your internet, close any programs that use the net that you dont need when playing
#2083 [17:58] <Grim_Reaper> Other than that, you cant do much unless you upgrade your speed with your ISP which costs money
#2084 [17:58] <hotwheel> thanks:)
#2085 [17:58] <Grim_Reaper> No problem
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#2087 [17:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> <_>
#2088 [17:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> some people honestly
#2089 [17:59] <Grim_Reaper> Mhm
#2090 [17:59] <CoolGamer> just read what is going on, and in Task Manager [CNTRL-ALT-DELETE] you could go into processes right click java.exe and choose High Priority
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#2092 [17:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> CoolGamer: he's gone
#2093 [17:59] <Grim_Reaper> CoolGamer that wont do much though net speed wise as far as I know
#2094 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> I refuse to believe the last 8 minutes just happened
#2095 [17:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> nope
#2096 [17:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#2097 [17:59] <CoolGamer> yes
#2098 [17:59] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine it did
#2099 [17:59] <CoolGamer> wow
#2100 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Nope, never did
#2101 [18:00] <DavidA> hello - minecraft newbie. I am connecting to a friend's US server from the UK. It's fine until they (in US) join. When that happens I get massive network lag. Updating once every 3 seconds or so. What would that be? Is it just because I'm going across the atlantic? Would a dedicated server help?
#2102 [18:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> GreyVulpine: im with you
#2103 [18:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> sounds odd
#2104 [18:00] <Grim_Reaper> DavidA, lag. A dedicated server MIGHT help a bit
#2105 [18:00] <Grim_Reaper> But it depends where its located
#2106 [18:01] <DavidA> grim: is trans-atlantic play ok?
#2107 [18:01] <CoolGamer> now I am going to try and buy mionecraft with PayPal and see if that works because I have had non-stop problems with MoneyBookers since the beginning of last week
#2108 [18:01] <DavidA> grim: I mean, is it possible?
#2109 [18:01] <Grim_Reaper> It is
#2110 [18:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> DavidA: yes
#2111 [18:01] <Grim_Reaper> I mean I played on a friends usa server. And Im not even on that continent
#2112 [18:01] <CoolGamer> and I have sent 2 emails to them and they didn't contain any helpful information
#2113 [18:01] <DavidA> ok ok. Any recommended providers? Since most players are in the US I guess I'd use a host in the US from the UK
#2114 [18:01] <Grim_Reaper> But yeah. it depends on net speed of the clients, the server thats hosting said minecraft server and yeah
#2115 [18:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> him joining then you getting massive lag sounds rly weird
#2116 [18:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> one more person cant cause that much extra lag
#2117 [18:02] <DavidA> where: yah... it's not even barely tolerable
#2118 [18:02] <DavidA> where: can I do a ping?
#2119 [18:02] <DavidA> where: or do I need to set network ports?
#2120 [18:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> DavidA: sure?
#2121 [18:03] <DavidA> where: open ports?
#2122 [18:03] <Grim_Reaper> Im not too sure of hosts. But I think allgamers might be nice
#2123 [18:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> DavidA: just open a console and type "ping 123.123.123.123"
#2124 [18:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> whatever the ip is
#2125 [18:03] <Grim_Reaper> Scott can help you there
#2126 [18:03] <DavidA> thx Grim
#2127 [18:03] <AG_Clinton> Grim_Reaper: Thanks. :)
#2128 [18:03] <Grim_Reaper> AG_Clinton o.o?
#2129 [18:03] <Grim_Reaper> Thanks for what :p?
#2130 [18:03] <Scott> DavidA; Hi!
#2131 [18:03] <Scott> Okay, AG_Clinton will help you.
#2132 [18:03] <DavidA> hey scott
#2133 [18:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> what on earth is happening
#2134 [18:04] <CoolGamer> this is irritating
#2135 [18:04] <Grim_Reaper> What is
#2136 [18:04] <Scott> Okay, DavidA. I'll help you. :)
#2137 [18:04] <CoolGamer> PayPal
#2138 [18:04] <DavidA> let me pm you, ok?
#2139 [18:04] <Scott> AG_Clinton and I are both from AllGamer. What type of server are you looking for?
#2140 [18:04] <Scott> Sure
#2141 [18:05] <Grim_Reaper> Scott a dedicated if possible
#2142 [18:05] <Grim_Reaper> CoolGamer whats happening exactly?
#2143 [18:05] <Grim_Reaper> Care to explain?
#2144 [18:08] <CoolGamer> I am setting up a PayPal account
#2145 [18:08] <Grim_Reaper> Ok
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#2147 [18:09] <CoolGamer> should be able to buy minecraft now
#2148 [18:09] <SneaksMcGeeks> Minecraft keeps on crashing when I try to open it, how can I fix it.
#2149 [18:09] <CoolGamer> get 64 bit java
#2150 [18:09] <Grim_Reaper> SneaksMcGeeks any errors? Can you describe the issue more
#2151 [18:10] <Grim_Reaper> CoolGamer what happens when you try buy minecraft
#2152 [18:11] <CoolGamer> now when I tried to use PayPal I got There was an error processing the payment i'll try again
#2153 [18:11] <Grim_Reaper> Does your paypal have money in it and a card/bank linked to it
#2154 [18:12] <CoolGamer> when I select paypal it changes it from $26.95 to €19.95
#2155 [18:12] <CoolGamer> and PayPal shows €19.95
#2156 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> 19.95 is in euros. Conversion to US dollars is automatic, and is 26.95
#2157 [18:12] <CoolGamer> ok
#2158 [18:13] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#2159 [18:13] <CoolGamer> it converted it to $26.95
#2160 [18:14] <CoolGamer> it did it again my card has more than $50.00 on it
#2161 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> ok CoolGamer
#2162 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Prepaid, perhaps?
#2163 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> My guess
#2164 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> Is that your bank is denying the transaction
#2165 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> So you'll need to phone them and ask them to allow it to go through
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#2167 [18:14] <SneaksMcGeeks> When I try to open Minecraft I get to login the Mojang logo shows up, and then it crashes the error message shows up.
#2168 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> If they say everything is fine
#2169 [18:15] <Grim_Reaper> I would suggest visiting http://help.mojang.com | Select the billing area and such and fill out the form and email them
#2170 [18:15] <CoolGamer> i'll check, it has worked on other websites
#2171 [18:15] <Grim_Reaper> Just a heads up. They're pretty backed up on emails though, so it may take a while to get back to you
#2172 [18:15] <Grim_Reaper> CoolGamer yeah it should work on other sites. But if I understand correctly. Theres an issue with minecraft purchases
#2173 [18:16] <CoolGamer> I have already emailed Mojang
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#2176 [18:17] <CoolGamer> I forwarded the email I sent to MoneyBookers to them and sent them another email about the problem
#2177 [18:17] <SneaksMcGeeks> When I try to open Minecraft I get to login the Mojang logo shows up, and then it crashes the error message shows up.
#2178 [18:17] <Grim_Reaper> ?? pastebin
#2179 [18:17] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2180 [18:17] <Grim_Reaper> Post the error in there please
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#2182 [18:19] <CoolGamer> transactions are being accepted, there is one from paypal but it didn't take any money out it just shows up
#2183 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Is it a prepaid card?
#2184 [18:21] <CoolGamer> yes, i would try a non prepaid card but MoneyBookers isn't letting me
#2185 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> You can try a non-prepaid card with paypal
#2186 [18:22] <CoolGamer> it is still in lockdown from the other prepaid card. I will try PayPal with it
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#2188 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Moneybookers does not lock your card down. What moneybookers means, is that you cannot use your card through moneybookers for 24 hours, to prevent duplicate transactions through them
#2189 [18:23] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#2190 [18:23] <guy123> how can i stop flying in minecraft creative mode
#2191 [18:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> guy123: double tap space
#2192 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> guy123 - double tap space
#2193 [18:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> ha
#2194 [18:23] <CoolGamer> ^wtf?
#2195 [18:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> CoolGamer: we're just that cool
#2196 [18:23] <Grim_Reaper> Or press alt + f4 :|
#2197 [18:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> I'm cooler, i got there 1 second faster
#2198 [18:23] <guy123> i tryed that why doesnt it work
#2199 [18:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> ofc
#2200 [18:23] <Grim_Reaper> Double tap it faster
#2201 [18:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
#2202 [18:24] <Grim_Reaper> You're probably doing it far too slow
#2203 [18:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah right
#2204 [18:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> yea maybe ^^
#2205 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Now, if the card's being declined through paypal as well, that's a seperate issue. Many prepaid cards have a certain tendancy to prevent international payments, as part of an automatic anti-fraud measure by the issuing bank
#2206 [18:24] <guy123> thats what she said
#2207 [18:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> guy123: alternatively you can just turn it off /gamemode 0/1 <nick>
#2208 [18:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> <_>
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#2210 [18:24] <CoolGamer> LOL, what was that
#2211 [18:24] <Grim_Reaper> lol :|
#2212 [18:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> =/
#2213 [18:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> almost as good as the HOW DOES WEBSITE MAKE WORK FASTER MY MINECRAFT
#2214 [18:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#2215 [18:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> i could have gone "here's this exe, use this it'll make it 10x faster"
#2216 [18:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> and he prolly would have used it
#2217 [18:26] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#2218 [18:27] <pyromaniac3814> well bye buys and thanks for helping me
#2219 [18:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> o/
#2220 [18:27] <pyromaniac3814> guys*
#2221 [18:27] <pyromaniac3814> lol
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#2224 [18:30] <Grim_Reaper> And then.. there was no talk
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#2228 [18:44] <conorcool09> hello
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#2231 [18:46] <luiji99> When I load a world in Minecraft the options menu pops up and I can't close it. Updating and reverting LWJGL makes no difference.
#2232 [18:46] <luiji99> Help?
#2233 [18:46] <lutzee> ??> luiji99 win/reinst
#2234 [18:47] <VoxelHead> luiji99: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2235 [18:47] <VoxelHead> luiji99: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2236 [18:47] <luiji99> First off, I'm on Linux. Secondly, I've done that three times now.
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#2239 [18:50] <conorcool09> http://pastebin.com/Xi3zMtiy
#2240 [18:50] <sonicmickdog> help, I can't blow up anything, it stopped working.
#2241 [18:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> [23:22:30] <sonicmickdog> help, I can't blow up anything, it stopped working. <-- this is the best message all day
#2242 [18:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> sonicmickdog: please explain in more detail
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#2244 [18:52] <sonicmickdog> when I click on something to break it, it won't work
#2245 [18:52] <sonicmickdog> the bow and arrow doesn't work either
#2246 [18:53] <lutzee> >.> luiji99 i really don't know then..
#2247 [18:54] <sonicmickdog> When I click the mouse to destroy something, it doesn't work.
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#2249 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> hold down your left mouse button?
#2250 [18:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> sonicmickdog: what happens, the block breaks then is put back?
#2251 [18:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> if so, you might be in the spawn area
#2252 [18:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> move a bit
#2253 [18:57] <conorcool09> voxelhead done wat u suggested wat do i need to do now
#2254 [18:58] <sonicmickdog> when I hit the mouse a " / " appears at the bottom left of the screan
#2255 [18:59] <sonicmickdog> No, they don't break...
#2256 [19:00] <sonicmickdog> The / appears and I can type there, but I hit escape and it goes away
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#2258 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> esc -> options -> controls -> make sure the chat control is not bound to your mouse button.
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#2260 [19:02] <sonicmickdog> the options for chat are ??? or button 1
#2261 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Remap button 1 to T.
#2262 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Map attack(?) to your mouse button
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#2265 [19:08] <sonicmickdog> now I can shoot arrows
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#2270 [19:12] <sonicmickdog> I can't drop, I'm in the air
#2271 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> double tap space
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#2274 [19:17] <sonicmickdog> I think my comands are messed up, is there a way to reset them?
#2275 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes. What operating system are you on?
#2276 [19:18] <Wug> windows 7
#2277 [19:18] <Wug> x64.
#2278 [19:18] <Wug> :win/folder
#2279 [19:18] <Wug> :folder/win
#2280 [19:18] * Wug prods wugbot
#2280 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> :fail
#2281 [19:18] <Wug> ;doop
#2282 [19:18] <WugBot> Wug: doop
#2283 [19:18] <Wug> ;:folder
#2284 [19:18] <Wug> :folder
#2285 [19:18] <WugBot> folder: Minecraft folder locations -- Windows: %appdata%\.minecraft -- Mac: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft -- Linux: ~/.minecraft
#2286 [19:19] <Wug> I'll get it one of these times
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#2290 [19:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> Wug: what on earth?
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#2292 [19:22] <Wug> WhereIsMySpoon: what on earth what
#2293 [19:22] <Wug> wha'dIdo
#2294 [19:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> whats with the random stuff then a paste of minecraft folders
#2295 [19:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> o.o
#2296 [19:22] <Wug> that was me identifying sonicmickdog's operating system and then failing to use wugbot
#2297 [19:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> But voxelhead is so much better
#2298 [19:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> ;D
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#2300 [19:23] <sonicmickdog> Ugh! I don't know what I'm doing
#2301 [19:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> sonicmickdog: neither do we
#2302 [19:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> win/reinst
#2303 [19:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> win/reinstall
#2304 [19:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> pff
#2305 [19:24] <sonicmickdog> lol
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#2307 [19:25] <sonicmickdog> can I re install it?
#2308 [19:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> sonicmickdog: basically just make a backup of %appdata%/.minecraft then delete it
#2309 [19:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> then re-launch minecraft
#2310 [19:25] <Wug> WhereIsMySpoon: overkill in this case
#2311 [19:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> Wug: oh?
#2312 [19:26] <Wug> sonicmickdog: in the minecraft folder, there should be a folder called options.txt
#2313 [19:26] <Wug> you can just delete that
#2314 [19:26] <Wug> it will reset all of your settings to the defaults, including graphics options, control scheme, etc
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#2316 [19:27] <EssMib_2725> i need help with texture packs mmmm, i want to add the Sphax, it work with mcpatcher but the water is still the same as the Default water =_=
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#2322 [19:35] <Rubiseye> Error! Migration failed. Please try again.
#2323 [19:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> Rubiseye: so try again
#2324 [19:35] <Rubiseye> >)(
#2325 [19:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> Rubiseye: ?
#2326 [19:36] <Rubiseye> Done 3 times
#2327 [19:36] <Rubiseye> error.
#2328 [19:36] <EssMib_2725> guys can some1 answer me?
#2329 [19:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> do it moarer times
#2330 [19:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> (i jest)
#2331 [19:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> erm, dont really know tbh Rubi :(
#2332 [19:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> ask
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#2334 [19:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm ok
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#2336 [19:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> EssMib_2725: don't ask to ask, just ask
#2337 [19:37] <EssMib_2725> i did
#2338 [19:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh sorry
#2339 [19:37] <EssMib_2725> but u guys ignore me
#2340 [19:37] <EssMib_2725> <EssMib_2725>: i need help with texture packs mmmm, i want to add the Sphax, it work with mcpatcher but the water is still the same as the Default water =_=
#2341 [19:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> EssMib_2725: we aren't "supposed" to be here
#2342 [19:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> Nobody is ignoring you
#2343 [19:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> We're just not around
#2344 [19:37] <Rubiseye> try optifine
#2345 [19:38] <Rubiseye> a
#2346 [19:38] <Rubiseye> essmib
#2347 [19:38] <EssMib_2725> i will
#2348 [19:38] <EssMib_2725> let me try
#2349 [19:39] <Rubiseye> You can use optifine to change water animation setting
#2350 [19:39] <EssMib_2725> oh
#2351 [19:39] <EssMib_2725> nice
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#2355 [19:44] <Rubiseye> ok/
#2356 [19:45] <candyo> I cannnot find anyway to contact someone for Minecraft. Bought as gift for friend of my son and cannot get it running on his PC.
#2357 [19:45] <candyo> We went through the process and recieved email but without a verification code. Any suggestions?
#2358 [19:46] <Rubiseye> Nut. :/
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#2360 [19:46] <candyo> The poor kid can't play with his new birthday gift!!!
#2361 [19:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> candyo: you made a username?
#2362 [19:47] <candyo> yes he did
#2363 [19:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> candyo: what is it please
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#2366 [19:50] <Rubiseye> no
#2367 [19:50] <Rubiseye> s
#2368 [19:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
#2369 [19:50] <Rubiseye> :S
#2370 [19:51] <lutzee> That moment when you realise that uni internet Blocks amazon cloud servers, like wtf :|
#2371 [19:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> lutzee: :|
#2372 [19:53] <lutzee> I'll find out who runs the internet and moan claiming something about using them for online backup..
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#2391 [20:22] <Geofiz08> i need help
#2392 [20:23] <Geofiz08> i cant access my premium account
#2393 [20:24] <DavidA> Minecraft newbie needs help! I got minecraft today. Trying to connect to a remote server which other people use without problems. When I connect, it's okay for the first 15 seconds or so and then lags like mad. Unresponsive for 5 seconds at a time. My conx is fine: 20ms ping, 50mbit down, 10mbit up. Anyone know what's going on? Weird that it's fine for the first 15 seconds.
#2394 [20:24] <Geofiz08> somone help
#2395 [20:24] <DavidA> ping to the server is 370ms
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#2399 [20:26] <Gizmo_and_Ali> KEapler: Im back!
#2400 [20:26] <Gizmo_and_Ali> KEapler: Im back!
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#2402 [20:27] <Gizmo_and_Ali> My Problem still sin't fixed... :(
#2403 [20:28] <Gizmo_and_Ali> Hello? Anoyone there i have a weird problem...
#2404 [20:29] <CoolGamer> back
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#2406 [20:30] <geofiz00> i need help
#2407 [20:31] <geofiz00> i cant get minecraft premium while i payed for it
#2408 [20:31] <CoolGamer> what is it I may be able to help
#2409 [20:31] <CoolGamer> I am having the same problem
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#2411 [20:31] <CoolGamer> did you wait a hour
#2412 [20:31] <geofiz00> yep i waited a week\
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#2414 [20:32] <CoolGamer> I tryed to buy it all last week and up to today and it is refusing to accept my card bit says it is sucsessful, they have been having a whole lot of problems, I cant help
#2415 [20:33] <CoolGamer> tried*
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#2417 [20:33] <geofiz00> we should get it back nfrom mojang ur accounts
#2418 [20:34] <geofiz00> were spending all this money and we get nothin
#2419 [20:35] <geofiz00> is any supportter even here
#2420 [20:35] <geofiz00> noone
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#2424 [20:37] <geofiz00> help i cant access my ACCOUNT
#2425 [20:38] <CoolGamer> so their is NOONE ONLINE right now?
#2426 [20:38] <geofiz00> i guess
#2427 [20:38] <CoolGamer> that can help?
#2428 [20:39] <geofiz00> this is some terrible service'
#2429 [20:39] <CoolGamer> there were a whole bunch of people online earlier that could help
#2430 [20:40] <CoolGamer> try sending a email to support@mojang.com
#2431 [20:40] <geofiz00> well guess they don't care bout us
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#2433 [20:40] <geofiz00> did it
#2434 [20:41] <geofiz00> they didn't right back]
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#2436 [20:41] <CoolGamer> they didn't with my email earlier
#2437 [20:41] <CoolGamer> too
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#2442 [20:44] <geofiz00> we should be getting free accounts since we paid al that money and we get nothin
#2443 [20:45] <CoolGamer> I hope someone will be on soon that can help
#2444 [20:45] <CoolGamer> there were tons on earlier
#2445 [20:45] <geofiz00> somone HELP!
#2446 [20:46] <lutzee> I'm still lurking, but it's almost 2am, i should be sleeping.
#2447 [20:46] <geofiz00> but can u help us at least
#2448 [20:47] <lutzee> I can only say the same thing about account issues, and that is wait for your ticket to be addressed.
#2449 [20:48] <geofiz00> then wat do i do
#2450 [20:48] <lutzee> Wait for the mojang support team to get to your ticket that you posted.
#2451 [20:48] <geofiz00> k bye
#2452 [20:49] * lutzee thorws "k" out the window.
#2452 [20:49] <CoolGamer> ok
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#2454 [20:51] <CoolGamer> yep
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#2456 [20:51] <Kealper> if you were here yesterday, you'd understand why ._.
#2457 [20:52] <Kealper> anyways...
#2458 [20:52] <Kealper> CoolGamer: what's your issue?
#2459 [20:52] <Kealper> account-related, i see that... but there might be something i can do to help
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#2461 [20:53] <Gizmo_and_Ali> Goefiz00: is a spam and dont listen to him, he was o here last night, and kept spamming...
#2462 [20:53] <CoolGamer> he did?
#2463 [20:54] <lutzee> Okay, well he's still a payig customer, he is still entited to help.
#2464 [20:54] <lutzee> paying*
#2465 [20:54] <Gizmo_and_Ali> yeah i was on here last night because i have a problem, and Keapler noticed that he changes his nickname, but he cant change his IP address... whose smart now?
#2466 [20:55] <Gizmo_and_Ali> :DD
#2467 [20:56] <Gizmo_and_Ali> Lutzee: I know, but he came on like with 5 different nmes , and her was so bad, Keapler had to kick and ban him a few times... Os tachnicaly he is a spam...
#2468 [20:57] <Gizmo_and_Ali> O need help, can anyone help me???
#2469 [20:57] <lutzee> Ask your question, chances are yes to some extent
#2470 [20:59] * Kealper is back
#2470 [21:01] <Gizmo_and_Ali> SO htere is a lot, Kealper and a fe others were helaping me last noght... but anyways:
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#2476 [21:19] <Calcifer> hello
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#2483 [21:29] <blu_tonight1> Stupid question, but why do I keep getting the Failed to connect to server message?
#2484 [21:30] <Kealper> blu_tonight1: what server are you trying to connect to?
#2485 [21:31] <blu_tonight1> The mindcraft classic multiplayer Free Build for Fun server
#2486 [21:32] <Kealper> ahh, classic... the server is probably offline for whatever reason, then
#2487 [21:32] <blu_tonight1> My son was playing it on the laptop right behind me
#2488 [21:32] <Kealper> hmm... can you get on any other servers from that computer?
#2489 [21:33] <blu_tonight1> yes. He has access to all of them
#2490 [21:34] <Kealper> and it's just that one computer of the two that can't get on that one specific server?
#2491 [21:36] <blu_tonight1> correct
#2492 [21:36] <blu_tonight1> Desktop no access, laptop all access
#2493 [21:37] <Kealper> hmm.. do you happen to know the address to that server?
#2494 [21:37] <Kealper> (like, it's IP address or hostname)
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#2496 [21:39] <blu_tonight1> No, I don't sorry
#2497 [21:39] * Kealper goes to look
#2497 [21:40] <Kealper> ok, is it the "FREE BUILD FOR FUN [BIG MAPS]" server?
#2498 [21:40] <blu_tonight1> yes
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#2500 [21:42] <Kealper> hmm..
#2501 [21:42] <blu_tonight1> could it be java out of date?
#2502 [21:42] <Kealper> i'm thinking it's just that server that is having problems right now.. when I joined it instantly booted me for some random error
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#2504 [21:44] <blu_tonight1> I am very new at this, so sorry for the dumb questions, but is Classic out of date then?
#2505 [21:45] <Kealper> yes, it's only kept around because some people still prefer it's simplicity
#2506 [21:46] <blu_tonight1> We were only trying it because I was told my 6 yr old computer wouldn't handle the real game :(
#2507 [21:47] <Kealper> i've been able to get it running on hardware much older than that; i assume you were told this on the Minecraft forums?
#2508 [21:47] <Wug> he'd probably be ok if monsters were turned off
#2509 [21:48] <blu_tonight1> no, actually by a friend that plays alot
#2510 [21:48] <Kealper> if you've already got a normal Minecraft account (which i assume you do, since you're playing classic multiplayer), you could always try out the demo of the full version, to see if it runs
#2511 [21:48] <blu_tonight1> That's true. I will try that. Thank you!
#2512 [21:49] <Kealper> you should be able to access the demo by just logging in to your account and trying to play the latest version from the website
#2513 [21:51] <blu_tonight1> Thank you again! I'm probably going to end up buying it hahaha The kids love playing
#2514 [21:52] <Kealper> because honestly, if you like classic, can afford the game, and your computer can run it (testable with demo)... the full Minecraft is worth it; it's got loads more things to do
#2515 [21:53] <Wug> :demo
#2516 [21:53] <WugBot> demo: Minecraft has a (somewhat outdated) demo available (last updated for 1.8.1). PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#2517 [21:53] <WugBot> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#2518 [21:53] <Wug> hahahaha thats old
#2519 [21:53] <Wug> there should be a demo mode available online
#2520 [21:53] <Wug> ?? demo
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#2522 [21:53] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#2523 [21:54] <Wug> ;~ demo You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
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#2526 [22:05] <Kealper> mollstam's recent tweets make me happy.. and it seems to have worked too, as it's been pretty silent around here today
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#2530 [22:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kealper: were you not watching earlier? :|
#2531 [22:16] <Kealper> if by earlier, do you mean like.... around 9 hours ago earlier?
#2532 [22:16] <Kealper> because they started processing all the backed-up purchases from the last day or so around 9 hours ago, according to said tweet
#2533 [22:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kealper: we had one guy ask to make his minecraft go faster via a website
#2534 [22:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> and another guy who couldnt get out of flying mode on creative
#2535 [22:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
#2536 [22:16] <Kealper> oh... oh gosh
#2537 [22:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kealper:
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#2539 [22:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> [22:25:21] <hotwheel> whats a website that can increase my speed on minecraft?
#2540 [22:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> :|
#2541 [22:17] <Kealper> :|
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#2543 [22:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> HAVE THESE .EXEs THEYRE SO AWESOME
#2544 [22:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> and he prolly would have run them
#2545 [22:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> hey ho
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#2547 [22:19] <Kealper> "your internet may randomly lag while we use the botnet you put put your computer in, but your Minecraft will run smoother!"
#2548 [22:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> <______>
#2549 [22:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> exactly
#2550 [22:19] <Kealper> how'd i manage to type put twice?
#2551 [22:20] <Kealper> i swear, this wireless keyboard has a mind of it's own some times
#2552 [22:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
#2553 [22:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> i just noticed that
#2554 [22:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> you're cursed
#2555 [22:21] <Kealper> this is not the first time my keyboard has seemingly duplicated 4 bytes of text while typing, either...
#2556 [22:21] <Kealper> and it's always 4, always after a space
#2557 [22:23] <Kealper> interestingly enough... a CBer just put up an antenna about a block away from me... this started around the time i noticed said antenna...
#2558 [22:23] <Kealper> and this is a 27MHz keyboard... i wonder if that guy needs the FCC called on him for using way too much power
#2559 [22:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kealper: CBer?
#2560 [22:23] <Kealper> (or just a thumb tack in the coax going to his antenna)
#2561 [22:24] <Kealper> CBer, a person who uses CB radio
#2562 [22:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> cb?
#2563 [22:24] <Kealper> uhh.... tuckers, breaker-breaker, what's your 1020, etc
#2564 [22:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> wat
#2565 [22:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> im uk
#2566 [22:24] <Kealper> truckers*
#2567 [22:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> if this is some us thing i dont know it
#2568 [22:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kealper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_Band_radio ?
#2569 [22:25] <Kealper> hmm... i know the US isn't the only one using CB radios, and yes, the above
#2570 [22:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kealper: ive never heard of it
#2571 [22:25] <Kealper> although they might not have that in the UK, or it might not be as popular there
#2572 [22:25] <Kealper> ever heard of ham radio? lol
#2573 [22:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kealper: no
#2574 [22:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kealper: it seems to not rly be an official thing in teh uk anymore
#2575 [22:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> Cb that is
#2576 [22:26] <Kealper> never heard of ham radio? tisk, tisk...
#2577 [22:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kealper: if i say im 21 does that let me off?
#2578 [22:26] * Kealper is 22 and is a licensed ham
#2578 [22:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh amateur radio
#2579 [22:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> never heard it called ham before
#2580 [22:27] <Kealper> ahh, ham is more of an internal pet-name for it... but yes... CB is basically the 4chan of amateur radio
#2581 [22:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol ic
#2582 [22:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> and ham is reddit?
#2583 [22:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> or maybe tumblr
#2584 [22:28] <Kealper> ham would probably be reddit, yeah
#2585 [22:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#2586 [22:29] <Kealper> in both that it offers more things to discuss/use, and in that you've actually got to register to talk on it
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#2588 [22:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> cya
#2589 [22:32] * Kealper waves
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#2597 [22:44] <Guest_> are the fishing rods borked?
#2598 [22:44] <Guest_> in the middle of the game they stopped reeling back
#2599 [22:45] <Guest_> and i cant catch anyt fish
#2600 [22:45] <Guest_> reinstalled a few times
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