#1 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> I hear now that there are now official Minecraft prepaid cards on sale in america.
#2 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> http://minecraft.net/prepaid
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#6 [00:32] <zyre> my minecraft save file keeps freezing up after transferring to a new computer
#7 [00:34] <Wug> zyre: you have 64 bit java installed right?
#8 [00:34] <Wug> :j7
#9 [00:34] <WugBot> j7: You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7u7-downloads-1836441.html (version 7u7)
#10 [00:34] <Wug> 64 bit for windows is the last in the list
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#12 [00:36] <MadMax> Anyone alive?
#13 [00:37] <itzmjauz> yeah
#14 [00:38] <MadMax> Im tyring to re mod my MC
#15 [00:38] <Wug> this channel doesn't support mods
#16 [00:38] <MadMax> My freind used allot and i wanted to knock it down to a few of the ones I liked
#17 [00:38] <Wug> follow the directions in the mod thread
#18 [00:38] <MadMax> and I have no clue how to do it.
#19 [00:38] <Wug> if you're still having trouble, ask in #Direwolf20
#20 [00:38] <MadMax> yeah well its MCH
#21 [00:38] <Wug> you'll need some patience
#22 [00:38] <MadMax> the mcmod one is "dead"
#23 [00:39] <Wug> you're not in #Direwolf20, try that one
#24 [00:39] <MadMax> .... when it says to move a jar file in the download
#25 [00:39] <MadMax> and the download has no jar file
#26 [00:39] <MadMax> pls tell me how that works.
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#28 [00:40] <Celebrant> oh noes! I cannot connect to minecraft.net!
#29 [00:42] <Celebrant> ...
#30 [00:43] <Celebrant> ...
#31 [00:43] <Celebrant> wait
#32 [00:43] <Celebrant> that is my dns
#33 [00:43] <Celebrant> -_-
#34 [00:43] <Celebrant> I wish I knew what that was
#35 [00:43] <Celebrant> oh weell
#36 [00:44] <Celebrant> byeee
#37 [00:44] <Celebrant> byeee
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#40 [00:50] <Marc_IRL> Have you guys been getting reports of people who purchased recently, are confirmed premium, and can't log in?
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#56 [01:22] <Brentnauer|Away> Test
#57 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Test passed.
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#61 [01:31] <sproing> hello, i've got a question about the xbox 360 edition
#62 [01:35] <sproing> is anyone available?
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#66 [01:41] <sproing> well i'll just go ahead and ask my question. I noticed that the 1.8 update will be coming soon to the xbox edition and the maps will most likely be able to continue rendering beyond the limited area available right now
#67 [01:42] <sproing> my question is will this change be applied to existing maps or will you have to start a new map for the map to be able to expand
#68 [01:42] <sproing> i suppose I'm asking how it worked when this update came to the pc version since there is no absolute way of knowing until the update
#69 [01:46] <Marc_IRL> The restrictions didn't apply to the PC update, the world was already unlimited, so there's no way to know other than to ask the developers
#70 [01:47] <sproing> I see I was told that the PC was restricted at first as well until one of the updates I'm not sure if it was 1.8 or not
#71 [01:47] <sproing> I would but there doesn't seem to be any way at least to my knowledge of contacting mojang for support or questions
#72 [01:48] <Marc_IRL> PC was restricted to "almost infinite" and was changed to "infinite"
#73 [01:48] <sproing> it would be very disappointing considering the amount of work i've put into the world i'm in currently not being able to access areas that would be added in the extended map like villages and dungeons and such
#74 [01:48] <Marc_IRL> Contacting Mojang support wouldn't help, as it's not being developed by Mojang
#75 [01:48] <sproing> also the xbox version is currently at a version where clay is supposedly rarer than diamond
#76 [01:49] <sproing> well thank you very much for the information I might attempt to contact 4j but I think they also don't have support
#77 [01:49] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL no, he's talking about classic mode
#78 [01:49] <ShaRose> which was limited
#79 [01:50] <Marc_IRL> But also an entirely different version. There is no comparison between Xbox and Classic
#80 [01:50] <sproing> yeah i'm not exactly sure about what's what because I didn't start playing until the xbox version so i missed out on a lot
#81 [01:50] <ShaRose> yeah
#82 [01:50] <Marc_IRL> Xbox is now at a point where PC was a year ago
#83 [01:50] <sproing> i know i'm a dirty xbox heathen
#84 [01:50] <ShaRose> burn the witch etc
#85 [01:51] <sproing> best part is there is a tip in the loading for the xbox edition saying there is a section on some minecraft forum for xbox edition but where that forum is located is completely unknown to me
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#87 [01:52] <sproing> well when the villages and dungeons and those types of things were added to the pc version did people have to create new maps or did those things generate in pre-existing maps?
#88 [01:53] <ShaRose> had to make new maps
#89 [01:53] <ShaRose> well
#90 [01:53] <sproing> because the current maps can be walked across in a matter of about 3 minutes so it would be highly annoying to have to throw out the last several months of progress because i'm limited to this small square
#91 [01:53] <Marc_IRL> https://www.google.com/search?q=minecraft+forum+xbox+360&aq=f&oq=minecraft+forum+xbox+360&sugexp=chrome,mod=4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
#92 [01:54] <sproing> obviously if it did work out I'd probably still have to walk outside the original area of my map to gain access to some of that stuff in newly rendered area i'm just wondering if it's going to work on current maps
#93 [01:54] <Marc_IRL> Things like villages won't generate in already generated terrain. It won't overwrite what's been created. When PC adds things, you have to generate a new chunk.
#94 [01:54] <sproing> according to my friend the pc version also had to create new maps to access new items put in the game but on the xbox edition new items are available in pre existing maps
#95 [01:54] <ShaRose> yeah
#96 [01:54] <Marc_IRL> no, PC version did not have to create new maps
#97 [01:55] <sproing> they just had to leave the original area that was already generated?
#98 [01:55] <Marc_IRL> It just generated the content in the new chunks created by walking around into an unexplored area
#99 [01:55] <ShaRose> I was typing it but I was distracted
#100 [01:55] * ShaRose is literally watching anime on top of irc
#100 [01:55] <sproing> okay that's cool hopefully it works that way on xbox edition
#101 [01:55] <ShaRose> it won't
#102 [01:55] <ShaRose> well, probably not
#103 [01:56] <sproing> i wouldn't mind having to walk a few minutes to get those things but i would mind having to toss out my entire world just because they chose not to do a smooth transition
#104 [01:56] <sproing> i want bricks
#105 [01:56] <ShaRose> they might have to use a new world format
#106 [01:56] <Marc_IRL> And as someone who gets asked all day every day about Minecraft features... just wait it out, instead of contacting the developer. On the day it releases, if you have a question, go online and check release notes or something, rather than trying to pre-emptively ask them, because hundreds or thousands of people are probably impatiently asking the same question.
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#108 [01:56] <ShaRose> mmm
#109 [01:56] <sproing> i know it's all for speculation because the xbox has considerable hardware and programing deficiencies compared to the pc
#110 [01:57] <ShaRose> mojang doesn't give out information interesting to players about future releases anyways
#111 [01:57] <ShaRose> except for snapshots usually
#112 [01:57] <sproing> i honestly would have rather them waited till they could port over the whole game but they needed to make money ASAP
#113 [01:57] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, the way it goes is, if you are allowed to know it, it's on the internet. If you're not allowed to know it, they won't tell you, even if you ask nicely.
#114 [01:57] <Marc_IRL> If everyone knew that, it'd decrease my twitter spam by 100% a day :D
#115 [01:57] <ShaRose> mmm
#116 [01:58] <sproing> to be fair if they did answer they'd have a million people asking who didn't pay attention the first thousand times it was answered
#117 [01:58] <sproing> so it's better to just take a policy of not answering in the first place
#118 [01:58] <ShaRose> the only way to get the neat info is to stalk them
#119 [01:58] <sproing> that way (most) people don't ask
#120 [01:58] <Marc_IRL> That's a rather pessimistic way of looking at it. Because they needed to make money ASAP?
#121 [01:58] <ShaRose> people are like that
#122 [01:59] <sproing> that's really the only reason for porting over a far outdated version
#123 [01:59] <Marc_IRL> People say these things like they're fact
#124 [01:59] <sproing> they started the port in an earlier version i get that
#125 [01:59] <Marc_IRL> Like they have some kind of insider knowledge
#126 [01:59] <sproing> but they could have waited till it was up to date
#127 [01:59] <Marc_IRL> No
#128 [01:59] <ShaRose> it had NOTHING to do with the way everyone was pestering them
#129 [01:59] <Marc_IRL> The PC version is being updated all the time, it will never catch up
#130 [01:59] <sproing> but that would have meant it took longer to make a return
#131 [01:59] <ShaRose> don't forget technical restrictions on the xbox
#132 [01:59] <Marc_IRL> In fact, it may branch off at some point. Pocket Edition is already starting to.
#133 [02:00] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, also technical restrictions, that'll make the game branch more.
#134 [02:00] <sproing> actually i believe they've said they are catching the xbox version up with the pc and eventually it will be updated in tandem
#135 [02:00] <sproing> i think it was in the original announcement for the xbox version
#136 [02:00] <Marc_IRL> Source?
#137 [02:00] <sproing> i could be wrong tho
#138 [02:00] <ShaRose> you are
#139 [02:01] <ShaRose> it's only going to branch more, if anything
#140 [02:01] <Wug> hey Marc_IRL
#141 [02:01] * GreyVulpine waves to Marc
#141 [02:01] <Marc_IRL> Just irks me when people say these things like they're fact. And when they bring money into it, and say that's the only reason something happened... The internet makes my head hurt.
#142 [02:01] <Calcifer> if someone would make a really aggresive redstone clock, could that cause high CPU load?
#143 [02:01] <Wug> wanna pay me to shmooze around in your server closet and hit the big red fixit button when everything breaks
#144 [02:02] <Wug> Im good at being awake when everyone else is sleeping
#145 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> pfft
#146 [02:02] <Wug> GreyVulpine is too
#147 [02:02] <Marc_IRL> If there was a big red button, I could reset our servers.
#148 [02:02] <Wug> I'll settle for a shell script
#149 [02:02] <Wug> called bigredbutton.sh
#150 [02:03] <Calcifer> hello?
#151 [02:03] <Wug> Calcifer: yes it can.
#152 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Calcifer yup
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#154 [02:03] <Calcifer> like 100%?
#155 [02:03] <Calcifer> CPU
#156 [02:03] <Calcifer> because I normally only have from 5%- 10% CPU usage
#157 [02:03] <sproing> i'm actually a little disappointed about creative mode being added
#158 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Given enough complexity, sure
#159 [02:04] <sproing> i like the building but i like knowing that i worked to build
#160 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> sproing, if you can believe it, some people still play classic
#161 [02:04] <Calcifer> is there a way to find these aggresive redstone clocks?
#162 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Calcifer, mcedit and the find function
#163 [02:05] <Marc_IRL> You might be disappointed about creative mode, but I imagine most of the other four million players think it's cool to get more content for free...
#164 [02:06] <sproing> however even though the pc version is ahead of the xbox version considerably you have to consider that it's also already done while the pc version is still in development so all they have to do is mainly port over the version
#165 [02:06] <Calcifer> wait
#166 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Pretty sure mcedit has a find function...
#167 [02:06] <sproing> not obviously an easy task but they already know what they are doing at that point while the pc version is in development it is possible for xbox version to catch up
#168 [02:06] <Calcifer> the high CPU load persists even if there are no people online
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#170 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Then that doesn't sound like it.
#171 [02:07] <Calcifer> Would that rule out the aggressive clock?
#172 [02:07] <Calcifer> ok
#173 [02:07] <sproing> i'd also like to see them fix how horrifying the sticky pistons are in the xbox version i have a functioning revolving lighthouse that won't work because the sticky pistons are bugged
#174 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> unused chunks are offloaded into memory when there's no nearby players
#175 [02:08] <sproing> i've seen videos of people have problems operating their redstone circuits because the circuit extends out of the loading range
#176 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Sure.
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#178 [02:11] <sproing> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWALarlARSE this video
#179 [02:11] * TheBadShepperd bothers Wug about Wug again
#179 [02:11] <Wug> :(
#180 [02:11] <TheBadShepperd> >:C
#181 [02:11] * GreyVulpine mehs and shrugs, is in bed, has no motivation to get out.
#181 [02:12] <Wug> you have teamviewer on your phone
#182 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> yes.
#183 [02:12] <Wug> TheBadShepperd: un nullroute chaos
#184 [02:12] <Wug> with your magic internet oper powers
#185 [02:12] <sproing> well anyways thanks for the insight on my upcoming update
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#187 [02:12] <sproing> hopefully 4j doesn't botch it but they've done a pretty good job with the other updates so it should be nice
#188 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#189 [02:13] <sproing> have a good evening or morning or afternoon or whatever it is you people are having at the moment
#190 [02:13] <Wug> late night
#191 [02:13] <TheBadShepperd> k
#192 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Take care
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#195 [02:14] * GreyVulpine yays
#195 [02:14] <Marc_IRL> That guy complained a lot O_o
#196 [02:14] * GreyVulpine throws party
#196 [02:14] <WugBot> GreyVulpine: get znc
#197 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> pfft
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#199 [02:14] <WugBot> AND YOU THOUGH YOU WERE FREE OF WUGS TELENAGGING
#200 [02:14] <Marc_IRL> So, has anyone noticed people in here with new, verified purchases, that can't log in for some reason?
#201 [02:14] <Wug> Marc_IRL: no
#202 [02:15] <Wug> there were a ton of people the other day who couldn't register
#203 [02:15] <Wug> related perhaps?
#204 [02:15] <Marc_IRL> yes, that was fixed
#205 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> can't say I have since yesterday
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#207 [02:16] <Marc_IRL> There was also the issue of payments going through, but us not getting the notification, which was also since fixed. However, some of those customers were re-routed temporarily to Mojang.com for their purchase, which creates Mojang accounts, and they'd log in with their email by default, which isn't super obvious.
#208 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> How goes the support email wars?
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#210 [02:16] <Marc_IRL> Also, GreyVulpine and any other regulars, the purchase URL through a Mojang account is https://account.mojang.com/buy/minecraft. Could be useful for... something.
#211 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> you guys still using help@mojang.com at all?
#212 [02:17] <Wug> we know eough to figure out issues that are from people not knowing how to log into mojang accounts
#213 [02:17] <Marc_IRL> It goes well. We're about two weeks behind, though our temps are now gone, so we'll still be catching up, just a bit slower than we have the last month or so.
#214 [02:17] * GreyVulpine nods.
#214 [02:17] <Marc_IRL> Our email form sends to that address, but we suggest that people do not use the email directly, because then we have to ask you for all of the info the form would have asked you for.
#215 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay. Perhaps would still be useful to suggest in caseswhere a transaction id has not been issued yet?
#216 [02:20] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, maybe. I was told that the Mojang purchasing system uses a different Moneybookers profile, with some different options. Could be helpful.
#217 [02:20] <Marc_IRL> Then again, you need a Mojang account to purchase from there
#218 [02:21] <Marc_IRL> If the customer already has a Minecraft account, they'd need to migrate to a Mojang account, which they cannot currently do with an unpaid account. So scratch that idea.
#219 [02:37] <AlphaBlend> hey it's one of the mojangstas
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#222 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> Nice, you scared him off..
#223 [02:44] <AlphaBlend> orly
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#225 [02:44] <AlphaBlend> they get scared when players say their names...
#226 [02:44] <AlphaBlend> i will remember this next time
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#236 [03:48] <dani____> hi
#237 [03:48] <dani____> is there someone who can help me pls?
#238 [03:49] <Andrio> Possibly.
#239 [03:49] <Andrio> What do you need help with?
#240 [03:49] <dani____> thank you
#241 [03:49] <dani____> i bought mc on mojang.com
#242 [03:49] <dani____> and i can't not find where i can update skin files
#243 [03:49] <dani____> i can't
#244 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> With your minecraft.net profile page at minecraft.net/profile
#245 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> Log in with your email address and password
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#247 [03:52] <dani____> oh thank you so much
#248 [03:54] <dani____> thank you have a good day :)
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#251 [03:57] <TyanColte> question, does anybody else have a problem where sound in minecraft starts out just fine but then randomly cuts out after a few minutes?
#252 [04:00] <DiskDaemon> I had a sound problem with my entire computer due to putting my cpu in to power-saving mode. But that's not likely to be relevant
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#299 [07:24] <DavidA> Please help! minecraft newbie. I'm in the UK and have been invited to play on a US server which runs on someone's office PC (i.e. a spare computer). About six of them (US based) are all playing fine on this server. When I connect, it's fine for a minute and then have unplayable lag. It will update every three seconds or so. Ping to the server is about 380ms. Q1) is the lag caused by
#300 [07:24] <DavidA> network lag? Weird that it should only happen after a minute. Q2) Would switching to a pro US minecraft host eliminate my problem or will UK to US never work?
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#302 [07:25] <death_hunter365> hello, i was wondering if you could help me make a server?
#303 [07:25] <Andrio> To be honest, 380ms is not a good ping time.
#304 [07:25] <AG_Clinton> Even for home hosted.
#305 [07:25] <DavidA> yup. What do you think I should expect from UK to US?
#306 [07:25] <AG_Clinton> ~100ms
#307 [07:25] <DavidA> right
#308 [07:26] <DavidA> do yout think it's causing the lag? feels like network lag to me
#309 [07:26] <death_hunter365> ?
#310 [07:26] <AG_Clinton> Yes.
#311 [07:26] <AG_Clinton> Definitely.
#312 [07:26] <death_hunter365> ok
#313 [07:26] <DavidA> right
#314 [07:26] <AG_Clinton> One way to tell is to join another server with them.
#315 [07:26] <death_hunter365> i need help please
#316 [07:26] <AG_Clinton> death_hunter365: With?
#317 [07:26] <death_hunter365> making a server
#318 [07:27] <AG_Clinton> There's a lot of guides out there if you google around.
#319 [07:27] <DavidA> is there a 'sample US server' I can connect to, so that I can check? I'm happy to buy a pro hosted option
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#321 [07:27] <death_hunter365> i just dont understand the port forwarding bit
#322 [07:27] <AG_Clinton> DavidA: I can PM you one of my test servers if you'd like.
#323 [07:28] <death_hunter365> ?
#324 [07:28] <AG_Clinton> Port forwarding can be a bit learning curve at first.
#325 [07:28] <AG_Clinton> You need to login to your router first of all.
#326 [07:28] <death_hunter365> how
#327 [07:28] <DavidA> death: you might want to put your router information into portforward.com
#328 [07:28] <DavidA> death: then look at the 'minecraft server' section
#329 [07:28] <AG_Clinton> That's a great idea.
#330 [07:29] <death_hunter365> yes
#331 [07:29] <death_hunter365> what if my router number isnt there
#332 [07:30] <death_hunter365> ?
#333 [07:30] <death_hunter365> and what is a staic ip
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#335 [07:30] <DiskDaemon> In that case, you can investigate other makes of the same model, to find something that has instructions that are close enough to your existing one that can be followed
#336 [07:30] <death_hunter365> ok
#337 [07:30] <DiskDaemon> A static ip is an ip address that doesn't change
#338 [07:31] <death_hunter365> oh
#339 [07:31] <death_hunter365> ok
#340 [07:31] <DiskDaemon> cross-reference and correlate a static ip with a dynamic ip, for example :)
#341 [07:35] <DavidA> does anyone know a way of comparing hosting companies ping times?
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#344 [07:42] <death_hunter365> ok i was just asking for help about port forwrad
#345 [07:43] <death_hunter365> and was wondering if you could do it for me
#346 [07:43] <death_hunter365> ?
#347 [07:44] <death_hunter365> ?????
#348 [07:46] <DavidA> death: what router do you have?
#349 [07:49] <death_hunter365> netgear
#350 [07:50] <death_hunter365> ?
#351 [07:50] <DavidA> model?
#352 [07:50] <death_hunter365> WNR1 000
#353 [07:50] <DavidA> ok
#354 [07:50] <DavidA> wait
#355 [07:50] <death_hunter365> ok
#356 [07:51] <DavidA> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WNR1000v2/Minecraft_Server.htm
#357 [07:51] <DavidA> hope that helps
#358 [07:51] <DavidA> gotta go
#359 [07:53] <death_hunter365> yer i got that but when i type my static ip into internet i dont no what to do
#360 [07:55] <death_hunter365> ?
#361 [07:56] <death_hunter365> ??
#362 [07:57] <death_hunter365> ???
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#364 [07:59] <dani____> hello
#365 [07:59] <dani____> i have a trouble with updating skins
#366 [07:59] <dani____> it doesn't update.
#367 [08:00] <dani____> there's no problem with an account directly purchased through minecraft.net
#368 [08:00] <dani____> but with the account purchased through mojang.com , it doesn't show in-game.
#369 [08:00] <dani____> but with the account purchased through mojang.com , it doesn't show in-game.
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#372 [08:05] <death_hunter365> hey i was wondering if someone could port forward for me
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#374 [08:05] <death_hunter365> ???
#375 [08:07] <death_hunter365> dw i got it
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#384 [08:24] <joflo> how do i fix my minecraft multiplayer, it says I can't reach any of my servers, I have tried deleting and reinstalling everything and it still is not working. It was working yesterday and now it isnt
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#390 [08:25] <joflo> ???
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#393 [08:27] <death_hunter365> can someone use teamviwer and do my portforwadinf
#394 [08:28] <death_hunter365> port forwading
#395 [08:29] <death_hunter365> ????????
#396 [08:30] <death_hunter365> ?
#397 [08:32] <death_hunter365> hello
#398 [08:33] <death_hunter365> anybody there
#399 [08:34] <death_hunter365> your not helping
#400 [08:34] <lutzee> death_hunter365: go to portfoward.com and find your router, then find minecraft in the list
#401 [08:34] <death_hunter365> yes i did all that
#402 [08:34] <lutzee> It will show you exactly how to portforward for a minecraft server.
#403 [08:34] <lutzee> If you can't follow those instructions we can't help.
#404 [08:34] <death_hunter365> but when i check it, it says that port is colsed
#405 [08:35] <death_hunter365> it says port is closed
#406 [08:35] <lutzee> It could be your ISP blocking it then, ask them
#407 [08:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> death_hunter365: are you in a school or workplace or university
#408 [08:35] <death_hunter365> home
#409 [08:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> death_hunter365: what port are you trying to use
#410 [08:37] <death_hunter365> ?
#411 [08:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> death_hunter365: what port are you trying to forward from/to
#412 [08:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> you say it says "the port is blocked"
#413 [08:38] <death_hunter365> 25565
#414 [08:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> which port
#415 [08:38] <death_hunter365> closed
#416 [08:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> closed sorry
#417 [08:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> try a different one?
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#419 [08:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> open server.properties and put server-port=20000
#420 [08:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> then try to use that port on portforward.com
#421 [08:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> make sure there's no server-port= lower down in server.properties after you put it i
#422 [08:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> in*
#423 [08:39] <death_hunter365> but thats not minecraft
#424 [08:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> it is if you tell it to be
#425 [08:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> server.properties can define what port you run a mc server on
#426 [08:41] <death_hunter365> ok
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#428 [08:42] <death_hunter365> port is closed
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#430 [08:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> wait, if port is closed that just means nothing is using it atm
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#432 [08:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> death_hunter365: have you actually tried to host the server on the port you just forwarded?
#433 [08:45] <death_hunter365> no, i go to port checker and it says its closed
#434 [08:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> closed just means nothing is using it
#435 [08:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> blocked would be bad
#436 [08:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> closed means you arent running anything on it
#437 [08:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> try launching the server
#438 [08:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> then get a friend to join or pm one of us your ip
#439 [08:47] <death_hunter365> what do i put in server address
#440 [08:47] <lutzee> nothing
#441 [08:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> wut
#442 [08:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> death_hunter365: you launched the server?
#443 [08:47] <lutzee> Theres a server-address option in the config for when running multiple servers on the same machine
#444 [08:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> oic
#445 [08:48] <death_hunter365> do i go add server
#446 [08:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> death_hunter365: Have. You. Launched. The. Server?
#447 [08:48] <death_hunter365> yes
#448 [08:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> hallelujah
#449 [08:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> please pm me your ip
#450 [08:48] <lutzee> !check CPE-121-217-47-98.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au
#451 [08:48] <death_hunter365> internal or external
#452 [08:49] <lutzee> !check CPE-121-217-47-98.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au:20000
#453 [08:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> :|
#454 [08:49] <death_hunter365> internal ip or external ip
#455 [08:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> death_hunter365: doesnt matter
#456 [08:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> we just checked
#457 [08:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> it isnt working
#458 [08:50] <death_hunter365> cant reach server
#459 [08:51] <death_hunter365> ?
#460 [08:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> unless someone's willing to teamviewer you (which im not) then we cant help you any further
#461 [08:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> you've done something wrong
#462 [08:52] <lutzee> And my internet is not fast enough for TV
#463 [08:53] <death_hunter365> teimviewer anyone
#464 [08:54] <death_hunter365> please
#465 [08:55] <death_hunter365> someone teamview
#466 [08:55] <lutzee> There is no need to repeat yourself.
#467 [08:56] <death_hunter365> ok well there was no answer
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#469 [08:57] <death_hunter365> check now im in it
#470 [08:57] <death_hunter365> no im not
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#475 [09:01] <beeryeyed> hello
#476 [09:02] <lutzee> hey
#477 [09:02] <beeryeyed> hi lutzee
#478 [09:03] <beeryeyed> very old version of irc this is, nice
#479 [09:03] <beeryeyed> can u help with a minecraft question?
#480 [09:03] <lutzee> Sure
#481 [09:04] <beeryeyed> i have to log in to play, so i assume i'm online all the time
#482 [09:04] <beeryeyed> is there a way so go back to an old save game
#483 [09:05] <lutzee> by old you mean?
#484 [09:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> beeryeyed: you cant use an older version of a map before you did x or y unless you backed it up before that time
#485 [09:06] <beeryeyed> i've died twice this week and been blown up as well, lost all i have worked on for weeks
#486 [09:07] <beeryeyed> where is a back up file?
#487 [09:07] <lutzee> beeryeyed: did you set it to hardcore?
#488 [09:07] <beeryeyed> nah, on easy while i'm learning
#489 [09:08] <beeryeyed> cant save easy?
#490 [09:08] <lutzee> You can return to where you died and stuff
#491 [09:08] <lutzee> you don't loose the world when you die unless you are on hardcore
#492 [09:08] <beeryeyed> i died under lava, twice
#493 [09:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> beeryeyed: its best to put your valuables in a chest and mark the coords down
#494 [09:09] <beeryeyed> didnt lose the world, just my stuff
#495 [09:09] <lutzee> then your stuff has gone
#496 [09:09] <lutzee> Tip, don't dig below you ever
#497 [09:10] <beeryeyed> bugger
#498 [09:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> ^ as i said, put valuables in chests
#499 [09:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> even if its a temp chest
#500 [09:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> mark down the coords (press f3 to get coords)
#501 [09:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> and yea never dig directly down or up
#502 [09:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> always dig diagonally, and have a piece of stone or dirt ready to block up that lava source you just accidently unearthed
#503 [09:11] <beeryeyed> had stuff in chests, one of those self destruct monsters blew it all up. why i was in lava to begin with
#504 [09:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> :<
#505 [09:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> then you were unlucky
#506 [09:11] <beeryeyed> tell me about it
#507 [09:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#508 [09:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> this is minecraft
#509 [09:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> welcome :)
#510 [09:12] <beeryeyed> lol
#511 [09:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you like, set it to peaceful
#512 [09:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you just want to build
#513 [09:12] <beeryeyed> peaceful? start a new game?
#514 [09:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> beeryeyed: its in the options somewhere
#515 [09:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> press escape
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#517 [09:14] <beeryeyed> be nice if you could save a game when you wanted to and restart that game if you died
#518 [09:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> beeryeyed: if you dont want to die, set to peaceful or add a mod that stops you losing all your items when you die
#519 [09:15] <beeryeyed> how do i add a mod? and where do i find such a thing?
#520 [09:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> beeryeyed: google it
#521 [09:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> we dont support mods here
#522 [09:17] <beeryeyed> btw, i turn 50 in a couple of months so i a'm probably way to old to play this but i love it, also why i'm a bit slow on the learning of it all
#523 [09:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> beeryeyed: nobody is too old or young to play minecraft
#524 [09:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
#525 [09:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> beeryeyed: you can try in #bukkit if you want
#526 [09:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> they might be able to help you on mods
#527 [09:18] <lutzee> Bukkit is server only mods...
#528 [09:19] <beeryeyed> its like the games i used to play on the amiga, simple but not simple. very addictive
#529 [09:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> eh thats true lut
#530 [09:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> sorry
#531 [09:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> beeryeyed: sorry then you'll have to just google
#532 [09:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> and yea minecraft can be addicting :D
#533 [09:20] <beeryeyed> ok, i thank you very much for your help
#534 [09:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> np
#535 [09:20] <beeryeyed> lesson, dont stand in lava
#536 [09:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D:D
#537 [09:21] <beeryeyed> have a good one all
#538 [09:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> and you
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#543 [09:36] <DrthWar> I had an account D@rthW@r and it stopped working. How can I get this fixed?
#544 [09:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> DrthWar: please provide more information
#545 [09:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> when did it stop working, how long before did it work, what exactly isnt working
#546 [09:39] <Selbram> !paid D@rthW@r
#547 [09:39] <DrthWar> Sometime ago the login names were changed where they would no longer allow ASCII chars like @. So I put in multiple requests to have the @ changed to something else and never got a response.
#548 [09:39] <DrthWar> Yes, but I can't seem to get logged in WHEN I use the username and password :(
#549 [09:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> DrthWar: did you migrate it?
#550 [09:39] <DrthWar> I think it is because of the @
#551 [09:39] <Selbram> You could try migrating it and using your email address.
#552 [09:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you did, then you need to use the email address to log in
#553 [09:40] <Selbram> ^
#554 [09:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> if not, then you can still migrate it
#555 [09:40] <DrthWar> okay I must migrate then
#556 [09:40] <DrthWar> That must of been the deal
#557 [09:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> DrthWar: maybe :)
#558 [09:40] <DrthWar> migrate link?
#559 [09:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> DrthWar: google it :p
#560 [09:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> or just go to minecraft.net
#561 [09:41] <Selbram> https://account.mojang.com/migrate
#562 [09:41] <Selbram> or there
#563 [09:41] <Selbram> :)
#564 [09:42] <DrthWar> Error! To migrate your Minecraft Account you need to give us your Minecraft Username. If you already have migrated your Minecraft Account, go to the log in page and use your e-mail address to log in.
#565 [09:42] <DrthWar> :( darn thing
#566 [09:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> DrthWar: you did input your minecraft username right
#567 [09:43] <Selbram> It is likely that the @ signs are hosing up the works
#568 [09:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> yea
#569 [09:43] <Selbram> go to help.mojang.com and put in a ticket
#570 [09:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> or hang around till Marc_IRL come son
#571 [09:43] <Selbram> they are getting faster at responding
#572 [09:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> comes on*
#573 [09:43] <Selbram> and if you hang around here you might be able to tackle Marc_IRL and get him to fix it :)
#574 [09:44] <theunpaidBill> When was this account migration event? I haven't done any migration and my account works fine.
#575 [09:44] * DrthWar nods no rush its been awhile
#575 [09:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> theunpaidBill: you dont have to, and a while back
#576 [09:45] <Selbram> theunpaidBill: ^
#577 [09:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> theunpaidBill: useful for if u wanna play other mojang games
#578 [09:45] <DrthWar> I have paid twice
#579 [09:45] <DrthWar> !paid DrthWar
#580 [09:45] <Selbram> if you by cobalt or any of the other games from mojang you might want to do it then
#581 [09:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> er
#582 [09:45] <Selbram> don't worry about it otherwise
#583 [09:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> DrthWar: try logging in with that username then
#584 [09:45] <Selbram> he can
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#586 [09:46] <Selbram> he has two accounts
#587 [09:46] <DrthWar> Yes I want my daughter to have one acct.
#588 [09:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> DrthWar: ahhh
#589 [09:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok :)
#590 [09:46] <DrthWar> She is more of a Darthy than me
#591 [09:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> darthy?
#592 [09:46] <DrthWar> Darth Vadar Fan
#593 [09:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> oic
#594 [09:47] <dani____> hello
#595 [09:47] <dani____> i have a trobule with updating skins
#596 [09:47] <dani____> it doesn't update
#597 [09:47] <dani____> there's no problem with an account directly purchased through minecraft.net
#598 [09:47] <dani____> but with the account purchased through mojang.com , it doesn't show in-game.
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#600 [09:50] <DrthWar> Has anyone got millenaire server working on a linux deployment with the Forge version?
#601 [09:52] <Selbram> no mod support here
#602 [09:53] <DrthWar> indeed not - pity
#603 [09:54] <DrthWar> I was simply hoping that one of the millenaire devs might be in.
#604 [09:55] <Selbram> even if they were, this is not the place :) they might have a channel for support
#605 [09:55] <DrthWar> Random Question - Do the dragon eggs hatch?
#606 [09:56] <Andrio> Nope.
#607 [10:08] <xy> Hello, how can i put files into a minecraft_server.jar on a command line (linux bash)? (i am trying to do that on a server with just ssh access => no graphical UI)
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#610 [10:14] <theunpaidBill> You have to extract the jar file, add the files to the directory, then recompress the directory into a jar file
#611 [10:15] <xy> i tried that
#612 [10:15] <xy> but it tells me "Invalid or corrupt jarfile
#613 [10:15] <xy> * "
#614 [10:15] <theunpaidBill> Then it didn't recompress right
#615 [10:16] <theunpaidBill> Maybe you should copy the jar locally, then copy it back after you modify it
#616 [10:16] <theunpaidBill> might be simpler than trying to do it all CLI
#617 [10:16] <xy> hmm
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#619 [10:17] <xy> the .jar file seems to be valid, i think it has something to do with the manifest things
#620 [10:19] <xy> aah, i see: the manifest has gone missing
#621 [10:19] <xy> this is why it won't start with java -jar
#622 [10:19] <xy> i have to directly tell it what the main class is with java -cp minecraft_server.jar net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer
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#626 [10:40] <lutzee> xy: why not build the jar on your PC then transfer it via FTP?
#627 [10:59] <theunpaidBill> scp
#628 [10:59] <theunpaidBill> :-)
#629 [10:59] <theunpaidBill> :-)
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#638 [11:18] <FiddleDiddle> hello, i have a problem with a minecraft server. if i go to direct connect, i can. but a friend of mine can't (on the same home network) does anyone know why?
#639 [11:18] <lutzee> FiddleDiddle: what IP are you using?
#640 [11:19] <FiddleDiddle> that's the one from CMD right?
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#642 [11:19] <Recypher> hey does anyone here have the survival games plugin on there server
#643 [11:19] <lutzee> FiddleDiddle: CMD lists multiple IP's tell me the one you are using
#644 [11:20] <Recypher> what
#645 [11:20] <Recypher> i need help with this plugin
#646 [11:21] <lutzee> Recypher: ask in #bukkit for plugin support
#647 [11:21] <Recypher> ok
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#649 [11:22] <FiddleDiddle> isn't that harmfull to write my IP here?
#650 [11:23] <FiddleDiddle> or possibly
#651 [11:23] <lutzee> FiddleDiddle: you internal IP's can't be connected to from the outside unless you port forward, which you havent
#652 [11:23] <lutzee> And your external IP is a public address
#653 [11:24] <FiddleDiddle> ok, so which ip do you need from me?
#654 [11:24] <lutzee> the one you use to connect to your server
#655 [11:24] <FiddleDiddle> 192.168.178.24
#656 [11:25] <lutzee> hmm and your friend, who i assume is stitting next to you can't connect? odd
#657 [11:25] <FiddleDiddle> yes
#658 [11:26] <FiddleDiddle> he is
#659 [11:26] <lutzee> The only thing i can think of is a firewall somewhere blocking it
#660 [11:26] <FiddleDiddle> how do you know I haven't port forwarded?
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#662 [11:27] <lutzee> FiddleDiddle: I don't, but even if you have, i'm not going to attempt any connection, because that would be rude of me to do so.
#663 [11:28] <FiddleDiddle> ah ok, i thought cuz you said nobody could connect unless i port forwarded, which you haven't
#664 [11:29] <FiddleDiddle> does the microsoft security essentials has any influence?
#665 [11:30] <lutzee> It shouldn't
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#667 [11:32] <FiddleDiddle> cuz i did port forward. well i tryed
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#669 [11:32] <xy> lutzee: because i am trying to make a script over there that does that for me
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#671 [11:33] <xy> (the unpacking, inserting of all files in a certain folder, repacking and starting)
#672 [11:33] <lutzee> That sounds a bit exesive
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#674 [11:34] <xy> that saves time when testing what i coded (i am trying to make mods, and this is a fast way to make a jar that runs and then start it
#675 [11:34] <xy> * )
#676 [11:35] <lutzee> using MCP?
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#678 [11:38] <FiddleDiddle> where do i find which firewall i am using?
#679 [11:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> FiddleDiddle: if you dont have any anti virus then it will just be windows defender
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#682 [11:52] <FiddleDiddle> should i set my home network as: home, work or public?
#683 [11:52] <FiddleDiddle> or does that not really matter?
#684 [11:54] <Calinou> <lutzee> FiddleDiddle: you internal IP's can't be connected to from the outside unless you port forward, which you havent
#685 [11:54] <Calinou> your internal IP cannot be connected to from people outside of your network/VPN (afaik)
#686 [11:55] <Calinou> your external IP can be connected to if the specified port is forwarded
#687 [11:55] <lutzee> er yeah
#688 [11:55] <Calinou> connecting to internal IPs requires no port forwarding
#689 [11:55] <Calinou> and ipv6 will not require port forwarding to connect to external IPs (afaik again)
#690 [11:56] <FiddleDiddle> and ipv4?
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#693 [11:58] <FiddleDiddle> cuz on cmd it doesn't show a ipv6
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#696 [12:00] <schwizzal> I can't get into
#697 [12:00] <schwizzal> my account
#698 [12:01] <schwizzal> I tried to change the password but it never got to my email inbox and I checked the spam folder
#699 [12:01] <Calinou> FiddleDiddle: don't worry about IPv6 -- you do not use it anyway
#700 [12:01] <FiddleDiddle> okay
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#702 [12:03] <knarfman96> admin
#703 [12:03] <knarfman96> hey is anyone ther i needa admin
#704 [12:03] <Calinou> knarfman96: explain "i need a admin"?
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#706 [12:04] <Calinou> if you got banned from a server talk to the server's admin, not here
#707 [12:04] <Calinou> note this channel is not affiliated with mojang
#708 [12:04] <knarfman96> ok i haev a craked server u need to shut down
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#710 [12:04] * Calinou facepalms.
#710 [12:04] <knarfman96> really
#711 [12:04] <lutzee> cracked servers aren't illegal, or against the rules.
#712 [12:04] <Calinou> what lutzee said
#713 [12:04] <knarfman96> yes they r
#714 [12:04] <knarfman96> i read the rules
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#716 [12:05] <Calinou> no; online mode can be turned off on the server legally
#717 [12:05] <pyromaniac3814> hey could you guys take a look at my pc build and tell me where im puting to much cash ?
#718 [12:05] <knarfman96> they can u do that
#719 [12:05] <knarfman96> then can u do that
#720 [12:05] <lutzee> we have absolutely 0 conrole over any servers
#721 [12:05] <knarfman96> cal can u do that
#722 [12:05] <Calinou> no
#723 [12:06] <pyromaniac3814> http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
#724 [12:06] <knarfman96> y not
#725 [12:06] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: windows 8)
#726 [12:06] <knarfman96> ????
#727 [12:06] <pyromaniac3814> lol
#728 [12:06] <Calinou> (yes, that was the necessary flaming)
#729 [12:06] <lutzee> pyromaniac3814: thats the wrong link
#730 [12:06] <Calinou> lutzee: agree? :D
#731 [12:06] <pyromaniac3814> i know hold on a sec
#732 [12:06] <lutzee> Calinou: pretty much
#733 [12:07] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: btw, don't use a AMD graphics card, get a nvidia one
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#735 [12:08] <pyromaniac3814> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jf9m
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#737 [12:08] <Calinou> these are far better for 1) opengl support, 2) in case you want to install linux, linux support
#738 [12:08] <Calinou> minecraft uses opengl onyl
#739 [12:08] <Calinou> only*
#740 [12:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> nvidia ftw \o/
#741 [12:09] <lutzee> pyromaniac3814: you do not need 16GB of ram.
#742 [12:09] <pyromaniac3814> i would like to run starcraft 2 without lag
#743 [12:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: do you need a sound card?
#744 [12:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> as in, do you do sound editing or music creation
#745 [12:09] <lutzee> Also don't buy a case that has a PSU with it.
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#747 [12:09] <pyromaniac3814> idk lol do i ?
#748 [12:09] <lutzee> Buy them seperately
#749 [12:09] <Calinou> sound cards are not needed today - CPUs have one, and it works pretty well and manages stereo like it should
#750 [12:09] <Calinou> you do not have 5.1/7.1 probably
#751 [12:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: do you do those things
#752 [12:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> if not, you dont need it
#753 [12:10] <Calinou> also, just get like 6GB of RAM at most, that'll work just fine
#754 [12:10] <Calinou> (if you run a lot of different programs at once, it will help)
#755 [12:10] <pyromaniac3814> ok
#756 [12:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: 2x 4g ram is good
#757 [12:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> corsair ddr3
#758 [12:10] <Calinou> get a nvidia card pyromaniac3814
#759 [12:10] <Calinou> like a 560ti
#760 [12:10] <Calinou> (for graphics)
#761 [12:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> gtx 560 ftw
#762 [12:10] <Calinou> or 560, it is slightly cheaper
#763 [12:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> is the fx-6200 an i5?
#764 [12:11] <Calinou> maybe -- you can get linux instead of windows too, that'll save you $90.52
#765 [12:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> not if he wants to play games ;p
#766 [12:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#767 [12:11] <Calinou> (as a distro, I suggest this: http://lubuntu.net/ -- it is nice towards beginners)
#768 [12:11] <Calinou> SC2 runs on linux just fine with wine
#769 [12:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> :|
#770 [12:11] <Calinou> wine lets you run windows programs under linux
#771 [12:11] <osuka_> windows is better than linux
#772 [12:11] * osuka_ grabs popcorn
#772 [12:11] <Calinou> osuka_: HAHA, no
#773 [12:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok that isnt needed
#774 [12:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> windows and linux both have advantages
#775 [12:12] <osuka_> let the flame wars begin
#776 [12:12] <Calinou> windows lacks package management, security and stability, and is paid
#777 [12:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> this isnt the place for discussing which is better
#778 [12:12] <pyromaniac3814> doesnt look like it compatable
#779 [12:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> osuka_: either be constructive or get out
#780 [12:12] <osuka_> rofl
#781 [12:12] <osuka_> jk
#782 [12:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> osuka_: uh-huh
#783 [12:12] <osuka_> I like both though and mac os as well
#784 [12:12] <osuka_> only thing about apple is that they want to control everything you do
#785 [12:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: windows 7 64bit is fine to get
#786 [12:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you are comfortable with windows
#787 [12:12] <pyromaniac3814> i use xp lol
#788 [12:12] <osuka_> xp was great
#789 [12:13] <osuka_> but it's getting too old =/
#790 [12:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> 7 has some nice extra featuers
#791 [12:13] <osuka_> 7 is like vista, improved
#792 [12:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> osuka_: please shut up
#793 [12:13] <pyromaniac3814> vista is nice too it has problems but its nice
#794 [12:13] <osuka_> q_q
#795 [12:13] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: it does work on linux (although it depends on graphics cards, you can try) -- many other windows games do too, such as team fortress 2 or trackmania :)
#796 [12:13] <Calinou> if you have the occasion to - really, do not buy windows (and if you don't like linux or it does not work, you can buy it later anyway)
#797 [12:14] <pyromaniac3814> should i pick something else ?
#798 [12:14] <osuka_> linux > windows regarding stability ans security, that's for sure
#799 [12:14] <Calinou> osuka_: you CAN play games on it. there's tons of free games playable, but some commercial games work too
#800 [12:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: anyhow, ditch the sound card unless you actually do music production, change the gfx card to a nvidia gtx 560 and dont buy a case with a PSU, get one separate
#801 [12:14] <Calinou> tried xonotic? sauerbraten? warsow? ...minecraft? :P
#802 [12:15] <osuka_> Calinou: I think the worst problem is that most companies don't actually support linux officially
#803 [12:15] <pyromaniac3814> ok just a sec
#804 [12:15] <Calinou> osuka_: unless you play diablo III you should be fine 8)
#805 [12:15] <osuka_> lol it doesn't work?
#806 [12:15] <osuka_> I know most games play on Wine, though some are glitchy
#807 [12:16] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: CPUs have CPU coolers integrated
#808 [12:16] <pyromaniac3814> diablo 3 would be nice
#809 [12:16] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: am I right?
#810 [12:16] <osuka_> I think the best option here is to have both, one windows for stuff that doesn't run on linux and one linux
#811 [12:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: mostly, but an extra fan is always niec
#812 [12:16] <osuka_> I think most have, the newer ones
#813 [12:16] <Calinou> osuka_: you still pay windows then (piracy is NOT an option; remember)
#814 [12:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> i have an extra fan that goes sideways to my cpu
#815 [12:16] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: limit FPS of your games to your screen refresh rate
#816 [12:16] <osuka_> Calinou: Ik, but anyways, it's better for some stuff
#817 [12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: er, ok?
#818 [12:17] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: I'm doing a PC build right now :P
#819 [12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont have any problems with my pc, dont know why you're telling me to do stuff :P
#820 [12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> also you need this case:
#821 [12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3xs-isotope-mini-ix-chassis-bunka-uatx-inc-120gb-hd-1gb-ddr2-lg-dvdrw
#822 [12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#823 [12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> same as mine except mine's just pure red
#824 [12:18] <pyromaniac3814> hmm that card isnt compatable
#825 [12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> red = go faster
#826 [12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: with what
#827 [12:18] <pyromaniac3814> cpu
#828 [12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> i use a gtx 560 for d3, sc2, mc, loads of games
#829 [12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> wat
#830 [12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> thats not possible
#831 [12:19] <pyromaniac3814> idk its not chowing it as a option
#832 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: where are you readin ghtis
#833 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
#834 [12:19] <osuka_> WhereIsMySpoon: dat case ._.
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#836 [12:19] <osuka_> I want it
#837 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> osuka_: :D
#838 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> osuka_: its a bit awkward to fit everyhing in but it looks aweosme
#839 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> and its really easy to carry
#840 [12:19] <pyromaniac3814> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jfdQ
#841 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> as opposed to a giant tower case
#842 [12:20] <pyromaniac3814> it doesnt show that card as a option
#843 [12:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: it does, ill fix your partpicker list
#844 [12:21] <osuka_> well back to linux
#845 [12:21] <pyromaniac3814> thanks lol i couldnt find it
#846 [12:21] <osuka_> IMHO windows > linux for gaming
#847 [12:21] <osuka_> so much sloppy drivers/glitchy games
#848 [12:21] <Calinou> osuka_: learn to like OSS games
#849 [12:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> osuka_: aye
#850 [12:21] <osuka_> lol
#851 [12:21] <osuka_> the worst problem is with video card drivers
#852 [12:21] <pyromaniac3814> lol i needed a computer that DOES NOT LAG im doen with lag lol
#853 [12:21] <osuka_> some aren't good for windows, for linux it's worse (looking at you, ATI)
#854 [12:22] <Calinou> osuka_: nvidia. is. just. fine
#855 [12:22] <Calinou> the proprietary driver works well; the opensource one is slow but works well too
#856 [12:22] <pyromaniac3814> no more lag
#857 [12:22] <osuka_> I prefer nvidia over ati
#858 [12:22] <pyromaniac3814> lol
#859 [12:22] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: linux can be faster than windows (this is why I suggested lubuntu, it is a lightweight distro)
#860 [12:23] <Denizen> you can't play barely any games on linux
#861 [12:23] <Calinou> linux is also good for development and contributing to open source projects -- it can be a great help, and you'll learn _a lot_ of stuff
#862 [12:23] <Calinou> Denizen: you sure can
#863 [12:23] <Denizen> linux is amazing if you don't play games
#864 [12:23] <Denizen> if I didn't play games I wouldn't see me using anything else
#865 [12:23] <pyromaniac3814> but im a gamer so...
#866 [12:24] <Calinou> Denizen: heard of FOSS games? :|
#867 [12:24] <Denizen> Calinou
#868 [12:24] <pyromaniac3814> what ?
#869 [12:24] <Denizen> I meant steam
#870 [12:24] <Denizen> :y
#871 [12:24] <Calinou> steam works on linux: wine
#872 [12:24] <Calinou> source engine games all work on linux (for me)
#873 [12:24] <Denizen> yeah but nobody uses wine
#874 [12:24] <Denizen> except for crazy people
#875 [12:24] <Calinou> wine is NOT terrible. quit saying that :P
#876 [12:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jffT
#877 [12:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814:
#878 [12:24] <Calinou> steam will have a native client, remember
#879 [12:24] <pyromaniac3814> wine is good
#880 [12:24] <Denizen> soon.
#881 [12:24] <Denizen> ugh
#882 [12:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> xfce with ubuntu = win
#883 [12:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> or xubuntu
#884 [12:25] <Calinou> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jfgy
#885 [12:25] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: xubuntu is slow and bloated
#886 [12:25] <Denizen> pyro don't get an fx-6200
#887 [12:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: er, no it isnt
#888 [12:25] <Calinou> as I said -- use something light and efficient. Lubuntu
#889 [12:25] <Calinou> it is slow
#890 [12:25] <Calinou> VERY
#891 [12:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: not with my experience
#892 [12:25] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: read xubuntu's wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu
#893 [12:25] <Calinou> have fun
#894 [12:25] <Denizen> pyro get this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cow6
#895 [12:25] <Calinou> Denizen: "cow"... haha
#896 [12:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: ok? Im saying it was a lot faster than normal ubuntu and was not slow for me
#897 [12:25] <Denizen> yep, hehe
#898 [12:25] <Calinou> my suggestion:http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jfgy
#899 [12:25] <pyromaniac3814> looks fast as hell to me
#900 [12:26] <Denizen> it looks
#901 [12:26] <Calinou> a gaming computer (without screen) for $692, something I'll never see in france *facepalm*
#902 [12:26] <Calinou> euro :<
#903 [12:26] <Denizen> Calinou I reckon he needs a psu
#904 [12:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou's doesnt have windows
#905 [12:26] <Calinou> y u so mean
#906 [12:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> also he rly needs a psu
#907 [12:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#908 [12:26] <Denizen> whereismyspoon you can creatively acquire windows
#909 [12:26] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: what did I say a few minutes ago?
#910 [12:26] <Denizen> but yeah
#911 [12:26] <Denizen> and an optical drive
#912 [12:26] <Calinou> Denizen: the case I chose has power supply
#913 [12:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: what you said was a load of your opinions on linux
#914 [12:26] <Calinou> Denizen: piracy is not condoned here
#915 [12:26] <Denizen> sorry.
#916 [12:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: what he wants is to play games easily
#917 [12:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> windows is the best for that
#918 [12:27] <Denizen> get this, pyromaniac: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cow6
#919 [12:27] <osuka_> windows is more user friendly than (most) linux distros
#920 [12:27] <Calinou> $90 to install some games noone plays and diablo III? not worth it
#921 [12:27] <Denizen> save the extra money for peripherals like a monitor and such
#922 [12:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> deniz, ati card :(
#923 [12:27] <Calinou> osuka_: linux is more user firendly than windows, by far
#924 [12:27] <pyromaniac3814> video card is a but much
#925 [12:27] <Denizen> pyro look at the total price
#926 [12:27] <Eddie> Windows is not Windows-friendly
#927 [12:27] <Calinou> even lightweight alternatives provide easy and FREE updates
#928 [12:27] <Denizen> also I'm using that card and it's fantastic
#929 [12:27] <Calinou> windows has terrible security too
#930 [12:27] <Calinou> linux is safer, by far
#931 [12:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: ive never once been hacked on windows
#932 [12:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> ever
#933 [12:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> its all down to stupid users
#934 [12:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> not windows
#935 [12:28] <Denizen> ^
#936 [12:28] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: same
#937 [12:28] <Denizen> idiots get viruses
#938 [12:28] <Denizen> then buy a mac
#939 [12:28] <pyromaniac3814> any way to make it closer to 600$ ?
#940 [12:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> not really
#941 [12:28] <osuka_> WhereIsMySpoon just wrote it all down in a phrase
#942 [12:28] <Denizen> pyro: piracy is not condoned here so I can't suggest anything
#943 [12:28] <osuka_> kudos to you
#944 [12:28] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: you don't need an optical drive if you buy games digitally :P
#945 [12:28] <Denizen> the one you linked is $200 more
#946 [12:28] <Denizen> Calinou: if he installs windows he needs it
#947 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> or wants to boot from live disk
#948 [12:29] <Calinou> Denizen: one more reason to choose linux. you can install it with an USB drive
#949 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> or wants to use a cd of any form
#950 [12:29] <pyromaniac3814> i know i was wanting to make it cheaper lol
#951 [12:29] <Denizen> Calinou, yes, but steam.
#952 [12:29] <Denizen> I know steam will be native for linux soon
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#954 [12:29] <Denizen> but it will be a while
#955 [12:29] <Selbram> you can install windows from usb
#956 [12:29] <Denizen> ^
#957 [12:29] <Calinou> Denizen: a while != never, and remember wine
#958 [12:29] <Calinou> it works fine for me (nvidia 9600gt), so it should work fine for him
#959 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: assumptions are the mother of all f-ups
#960 [12:30] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: remember linux has free support too (in IRC channels like this one) -- you don't have to pay for it like you would for windows..
#961 [12:30] <Calinou> and it does not track you. microsoft trakcs you
#962 [12:30] <Calinou> tracks*
#963 [12:30] <osuka_> meh, windows has free support as well
#964 [12:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> there's a #windows channel too :)
#965 [12:30] <Denizen> ^
#966 [12:30] <osuka_> also if you don't want to be tracked
#967 [12:30] <Crashdownx> Calinou a few days ago you helped me with my server.exe not opening, what should of I put in again?
#968 [12:30] <Eddie> Zeitgeist tracks you.
#969 [12:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#970 [12:30] <pyromaniac3814> lol if im tracked i cant get lost
#971 [12:30] <osuka_> STAY AWAY FROM APPLE, that's all I say
#972 [12:30] <Denizen> Calinou, linux does not suit is needs
#973 [12:30] <pyromaniac3814> haha
#974 [12:30] <Denizen> his*
#975 [12:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> -----^ this
#976 [12:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: linux is superawesome, but just isnt the system for a proper gamer who wants to play the newest games, stablely
#977 [12:31] <Calinou> Crashdownx: if you want to start the server easily, you can create a .bat file... let me write some instructions :P
#978 [12:31] <osuka_> ^ this
#979 [12:31] <Denizen> it is.
#980 [12:31] <Crashdownx> Danke
#981 [12:31] <osuka_> WhereIsMySpoon: and that's why I use windows, mainly
#982 [12:31] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: indeed, it is not really adapted to "consumers" who buy very recent products.. :/
#983 [12:31] <Denizen> He can also dual boot
#984 [12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> idd
#985 [12:31] <Calinou> personally I can deal with this just fine
#986 [12:31] <osuka_> I mean, playing a beta is hard and sometimes glitchy
#987 [12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: sure that's you
#988 [12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> I couldnt
#989 [12:31] * FLHerne drops in to support Linux :-)
#989 [12:31] <osuka_> imagine that on linux
#990 [12:31] <osuka_> ohai FLHerne
#991 [12:31] <Calinou> FLHerne: :D
#992 [12:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> wine takes too much effort, is glitchy, is unstable and doesnt support latest games
#993 [12:32] <Denizen> and also he's going to be building a computer for games
#994 [12:32] <Denizen> may be years before more games are supported for steam4linux
#995 [12:32] <FLHerne> osuka_: Don't use betas if you don't like glitches :P
#996 [12:32] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: wine doesn't take too much effort
#997 [12:32] <Calinou> I can run TF2/steam without touching a command line
#998 [12:32] <osuka_> lol I don't care, as long as they aren't game-breaking
#999 [12:32] <Denizen> wine is wine though which is bad
#1000 [12:32] <Calinou> Denizen: wine improved a LOT these months
#1001 [12:32] <Calinou> it added raw input, better directx support and many more
#1002 [12:33] <Denizen> hm.
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#1004 [12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: maybe not for someone who has linux experience, but it still will not run the newest games well, right away
#1005 [12:33] <FLHerne> WINE is pretty good now. Runs almost anything Vista will, DX11 isn't done yet though :-(
#1006 [12:33] <pyromaniac3814> should the video card cost more than the cpu ??
#1007 [12:33] <osuka_> hell, MAXs are *slow*
#1008 [12:33] <Calinou> DX11 is not really needed, like opengl 4.x
#1009 [12:33] <Calinou> never seen any game use 4.x features
#1010 [12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: usually
#1011 [12:33] <osuka_> pyromaniac3814: if you're looking for a decent video card, probably
#1012 [12:33] <pyromaniac3814> i see
#1013 [12:33] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: the graphics card can be very expensive (see the gtx690: $1200)
#1014 [12:33] <Calinou> :P
#1015 [12:33] <FLHerne> WhereIsMySpoon: Not that many people play the absolute latest games anyway :P
#1016 [12:33] <pyromaniac3814> god
#1017 [12:33] <Calinou> the gtx690 has "two" graphics cards, that's why
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#1019 [12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> $1200 gfx cards are for silly people
#1020 [12:34] <FLHerne> Calinou: Who spends that much :o
#1021 [12:34] <Eddie> I have no video card because I'm not a gamer. Also Linux.
#1022 [12:34] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: :) and scientific use
#1023 [12:34] <Calinou> Eddie: command line! richard stallman approves!
#1024 [12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: :p
#1025 [12:34] <Eddie> No not command line.
#1026 [12:34] <Eddie> iGPU
#1027 [12:34] <FLHerne> Eddie: I use mine to get high scores on BOINC :P
#1028 [12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> what's boinc
#1029 [12:34] <FLHerne> Also to play Minecraft and 0ad on :-)
#1030 [12:34] <Calinou> iGPUs plays free games quite well, because some of their hardware requirements are really low
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#1032 [12:35] <Calinou> http://assault.cubers.net/ < this runs on a netbook with 60+FPS ;)
#1033 [12:35] <Eddie> This is no regular iGPU
#1034 [12:35] <FLHerne> Calinou: Pointless generalisaton :P
#1035 [12:35] <Eddie> this is THE Intel HD 4000
#1036 [12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
#1037 [12:35] <Smanly> Hell yeah
#1038 [12:35] <Calinou> better graphics do not mean a good game :)
#1039 [12:35] <Crashdownx> Calinou do you have the instructions yet?
#1040 [12:35] <mib_ng54av> hey how do you get MINECRAFT
#1041 [12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_ng54av: download from www.minecraft.net
#1042 [12:35] <Calinou> Crashdownx: hmm sorry, well... writing them now in a paste :P
#1043 [12:35] <FLHerne> Many non-free games have low resource usage, many free ones have high GPU needs :P
#1044 [12:36] <Smanly> mib_ng54av: HOw the hell did you find this and not the website?
#1045 [12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> FLHerne: thats cause the free ones didnt optimise as well :P
#1046 [12:36] <mib_ng54av> no how do you buy it
#1047 [12:36] <Smanly> ...
#1048 [12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_ng54av: www.minecraft.net
#1049 [12:36] <FLHerne> WhereIsMySpoon: You're in a *minecraft* channel and you moan about optimisation? :o
#1050 [12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> FLHerne: i wasnt moaning
#1051 [12:36] <Denizen> that's java though
#1052 [12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> was just stating a fact
#1053 [12:36] <mib_ng54av> XD
#1054 [12:36] <FLHerne> Anyway, most FOSS is fairly optimised :P
#1055 [12:37] <Calinou> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258334/
#1056 [12:37] <Crashdownx> Thanks
#1057 [12:37] <pyromaniac3814> is a amd bad ?
#1058 [12:37] <Calinou> FLHerne: few commercial games run on netbooks today
#1059 [12:37] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: AMD CPUs are just fine, I advise not getting their graphics cards though
#1060 [12:37] <mib_ng54av> ya so
#1061 [12:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: ive had problems with amd gfx cards
#1062 [12:37] <Denizen> Calinou
#1063 [12:37] <FLHerne> Calinou: Not many equivalent FOSS ones do either :P
#1064 [12:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> cpus are fine
#1065 [12:37] <Denizen> amd cpus are usually horrid and their GPUs are great for the price/performance factor
#1066 [12:37] <FLHerne> AssaultCube =/= shiny modern thing
#1067 [12:37] <Calinou> FLHerne: and well, some FOSS games require good hardware, such as xonotic :P
#1068 [12:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> Denizen: er
#1069 [12:38] <Denizen> you use linux so you're going to be biased against ati
#1070 [12:38] <FLHerne> Great fun, but not the same category :-)
#1071 [12:38] <pyromaniac3814> gpu ?
#1072 [12:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> Denizen: i use mostly windows
#1073 [12:38] <Denizen> pyro: graphics card
#1074 [12:38] <Calinou> FLHerne: remember what I said about graphics
#1075 [12:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: gfx card
#1076 [12:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: graphical processing unit
#1077 [12:38] * FLHerne has an AMD GPU on linux :-)
#1077 [12:38] <pyromaniac3814> i see
#1078 [12:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> good luck with that
#1079 [12:38] <FLHerne> Denizen: How so?
#1080 [12:38] <FLHerne> Driver support is fine :-)
#1081 [12:38] <Denizen> FLHerne: I'm using a 6870 that I paid $150 for
#1082 [12:38] <Denizen> and it's lovely
#1083 [12:38] <Denizen> no problems with drivers at all
#1084 [12:38] <Denizen> they crashed once but immediately recovered
#1085 [12:39] <pyromaniac3814> does the motherboard matter much ?
#1086 [12:39] <Denizen> pyro: yes, definitely
#1087 [12:39] <Calinou> FLHerne: opengl support for AMD is terrible
#1088 [12:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: yes
#1089 [12:39] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: not at all, just get a random one that supports the amount of RAM you bought :)
#1090 [12:39] <Denizen> pyro: just go with this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cow6
#1091 [12:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: :|
#1092 [12:39] <Denizen> guys you're just confusing him
#1093 [12:39] <Calinou> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jfgy < my choice if you want to go linux
#1094 [12:39] <Calinou> Denizen: respect others' opinions, please
#1095 [12:39] <Denizen> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cow6 < my choice for games and windows
#1096 [12:39] <FLHerne> Calinou: It seems easily good enough here. Beats my old NVIDIA by miles :-)
#1097 [12:40] <pyromaniac3814> @denizen true
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#1099 [12:40] <Denizen> Calinou: I am. I'm just trying to support his needs
#1100 [12:40] <pyromaniac3814> ya my needs !!
#1101 [12:40] <Denizen> he uses steam and wants to use windows, so we'll do that
#1102 [12:40] <Calinou> linux lets you see "how your computer works" in a much better way than windows; it is also better for privacy, you are not tracked, unlike windows
#1103 [12:40] <Denizen> I'm basing everything off of experience
#1104 [12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: but that isnt what he's after
#1105 [12:40] <pyromaniac3814> steam is ?
#1106 [12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> erm
#1107 [12:41] <pyromaniac3814> lol im a pc parts noob
#1108 [12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> steam is software
#1109 [12:41] <Denizen> steam is a program
#1110 [12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: do you not use steam?
#1111 [12:41] <pyromaniac3814> idk how do i tell ?
#1112 [12:42] <Calinou> steam is some kind of software which allows you to play (and buy) games, and have some kind of friend list/chat and so on
#1113 [12:42] <Denizen> ^
#1114 [12:42] <Calinou> it is required to play some games such as team fortress 2
#1115 [12:42] <Calinou> it is optional for some of them
#1116 [12:42] <pyromaniac3814> havent played it
#1117 [12:42] <FLHerne> Denizen: Linux is better for everything, always :D
#1118 [12:42] <Denizen> FLHerne: except games. c:
#1119 [12:42] <Denizen> I agree for everything else though
#1120 [12:42] * FLHerne reverts to obsessive fanboiism :P
#1120 [12:42] <pyromaniac3814> i dont think i use steam
#1121 [12:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: what games do you play?
#1122 [12:42] <Calinou> Denizen: I'm a linux gamer just fine (while I am on windows currently; *ALL* the games I play work on linux)
#1123 [12:42] <Denizen> you don't if you are unsure.
#1124 [12:43] <Calinou> I'm on dualboot with lubuntu
#1125 [12:43] <FLHerne> Denizen: It's better for FOSS games and anything older than 2000 :P
#1126 [12:43] <Denizen> Calinou: I agree, some work, but highend retail games
#1127 [12:43] <Denizen> do not work well
#1128 [12:43] <Calinou> FLHerne: recent games work on wine too :p
#1129 [12:43] <Denizen> or at all
#1130 [12:43] <Denizen> that is wine though
#1131 [12:43] <pyromaniac3814> right now just starcraft 1 and 2 metalfatuge warcraft 3 and scorched earth
#1132 [12:43] <FLHerne> And just as good for anything up to 2010 at least :-)
#1133 [12:43] <FLHerne> Calinou: Newest I have is SWBFII :P
#1134 [12:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: what games do you want to play?
#1135 [12:44] * Calinou has no retail games, only plays free games + minecraft
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#1136 [12:44] <Calinou> not a fond of retail games. I want openness.
#1137 [12:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> then there's the difference between me and you :p
#1138 [12:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> retail games are usually just better than foss games, tho not always
#1139 [12:44] <Denizen> No offense to pyromaniac at all, but Linux may be a bit of an advanced procedure to install fro him
#1140 [12:44] <pyromaniac3814> starcraft 2 with out lagg ,minecraft, diablo 3 ,
#1141 [12:44] <Denizen> for*
#1142 [12:44] <FLHerne> WhereIsMySpoon: Only FPSs :-(
#1143 [12:44] <Calinou> FOSS games are fun if you can adapt so that you can enjot them
#1144 [12:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: right, ok
#1145 [12:45] <Calinou> FLHerne: there are some other kinds of games too, though arena FPSes are omnipresent, due to the FOSS community not caring about other types
#1146 [12:45] <pyromaniac3814> FOSS ?
#1147 [12:45] * FLHerne hasn't seen many good, commercial non-FPS games recently
#1147 [12:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> denizen's list is good
#1148 [12:45] <Calinou> tux racer :D
#1149 [12:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> take it
#1150 [12:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> free open source somethinig
#1151 [12:45] <FLHerne> Calinou: Other way round ;-)
#1152 [12:45] <Calinou> Denizen: linux is pretty easy to install
#1153 [12:45] <Calinou> simpler than windows I would say
#1154 [12:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> FLHerne: diablo 3, torchlight 2, sc2, dota 2
#1155 [12:45] <Denizen> not for some people I bet, Calinou
#1156 [12:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: er, no
#1157 [12:45] <Calinou> partitioning is automated with ubiquity (ubuntu and derivatives, lubuntu being a derivative)
#1158 [12:45] <FLHerne> It is, really
#1159 [12:46] <FLHerne> Try a modern installer
#1160 [12:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> I will absolutely put my foot down here and say windows is easier than linux to set up and actually do stuff with
#1161 [12:46] * FLHerne has had to install both WIndows 7 and some Linux recently :P
#1161 [12:46] <pyromaniac3814> my comp wount run minecraft lol
#1162 [12:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> i have reinstalled linux and windows multiple times
#1163 [12:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: take Denizen's list of parts
#1164 [12:46] <pyromaniac3814> not even the demo
#1165 [12:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> its good
#1166 [12:46] <Calinou> you only have to choose: user name, password, time zone, language, whether you want to install non-free (they are free as in price, but not "open source") codecs such as MP3
#1167 [12:46] <FLHerne> WhereIsMySpoon: I'll put my other foot down and say no :P
#1168 [12:46] <Denizen> I'm running an identical build right now, pyromaniac3814
#1169 [12:46] <Denizen> I am /extremely/ happy with it. :P
#1170 [12:46] <pyromaniac3814> lag ?
#1171 [12:47] <Denizen> no framerate issues at all.
#1172 [12:47] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: linux has package management. it makes installing software super easy, and there are fancy menus to do that, or command line
#1173 [12:47] <pyromaniac3814> good lol i hate lag
#1174 [12:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: remember, network lag != fps issues
#1175 [12:47] <Denizen> lag is actually network latency
#1176 [12:47] <FLHerne> WhereIsMySpoon: No package manager, automatic driver installation, proper autodetection of partitions...
#1177 [12:47] <Calinou> command line is an extremely useful tool windows lacks (you can't do anything actual with)
#1178 [12:47] <Denizen> but I won't get picky with the terms. :p
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#1180 [12:47] <pyromaniac3814> single player on starcraft 2 = lag lol
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#1182 [12:48] * FLHerne gets lag with Minecraft :P
#1182 [12:48] <FLHerne> Stupid Pentium D :-(
#1183 [12:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol pentium d
#1184 [12:48] <Denizen> I had a pentium d
#1185 [12:48] * Calinou has an i7, 12GB ram, nvidia 570gtx
#1185 [12:48] <Calinou> a computer that can play minecraft "without lag". :D
#1186 [12:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: you do video rendering?
#1187 [12:49] <pyromaniac3814> is 2.9 GHz bad ?
#1188 [12:49] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: no
#1189 [12:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> i7 was a waste then
#1190 [12:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: no its fine
#1191 [12:49] <pyromaniac3814> seems that alot are much higher
#1192 [12:49] <Denizen> pyromaniac3814: clock speed doesn't matter if the CPU itself is fine
#1193 [12:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: clock speed != better cpu
#1194 [12:49] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: it is fine, remember the amount of cores, recent CPUs have two, high-end CPUs have four or even six!
#1195 [12:49] <pyromaniac3814> oh
#1196 [12:49] <FLHerne> Why did I attach a 7770 to my Pentium D?
#1197 [12:49] * FLHerne forgot again
#1197 [12:49] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: I do CPU-expensive stuff sometimes (mass-optipng-ing, compiling) :)
#1198 [12:49] <Calinou> and minecraft, which is CPU intensive
#1199 [12:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: fair enough :)
#1200 [12:50] <Calinou> make -j8 is fast
#1201 [12:50] <Calinou> :>
#1202 [12:50] <pyromaniac3814> so does each core clock at 2.9 if its a 2.9 dule core ?
#1203 [12:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: i just get a little angsty when people go "I HAS I7 IM THE BOSS"
#1204 [12:50] <Calinou> compiles minetest in under 20 seconds
#1205 [12:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> then im like facepalm
#1206 [12:50] <Denizen> pyromaniac: technically. yes.
#1207 [12:50] <Denizen> and the i5 I chose is a quad core.
#1208 [12:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> yay quad core
#1209 [12:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> i have an i5 2500k
#1210 [12:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> its lovely :3
#1211 [12:51] <Denizen> i5 2310.
#1212 [12:51] <lutzee> i5 3570K
#1213 [12:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> i5 9001?
#1214 [12:51] <Denizen> basically it's the 2500k except locked
#1215 [12:51] <Denizen> and a 5% performance difference
#1216 [12:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
#1217 [12:51] <pyromaniac3814> so its like a dulecore with a 1.5 GHz speed would be better than a single core 2.0 GHz ?
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#1221 [12:52] <Calinou> yeah :)
#1222 [12:52] <Calinou> except if you often use single-core apps
#1223 [12:53] <pyromaniac3814> sweet
#1224 [12:53] <pyromaniac3814> huh ?
#1225 [12:53] <pyromaniac3814> single core aps ??
#1226 [12:53] <Calinou> (multi-core apps are usually compilers, video editors, some games)
#1227 [12:53] <Calinou> applications have to be programmed in a specific way to work with several cores, else they will use one
#1228 [12:53] <pyromaniac3814> starcraft 2 i think is a 2 core game
#1229 [12:54] <Calinou> it is almost always beneficial to have two cores at least, so that you can run something like a game in a core and the background processes in another
#1230 [12:54] <Calinou> if a game works with several cores, there is no limit
#1231 [12:54] <pyromaniac3814> what ?
#1232 [12:54] <Calinou> note recent CPUs use hyperthreading which multiply the amount of cores by two
#1233 [12:54] <Calinou> (mostly applies to quadcore)
#1234 [12:55] <pyromaniac3814> what hyperthreading ?
#1235 [12:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh dear
#1236 [12:55] <pyromaniac3814> whats*
#1237 [12:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading
#1238 [12:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> that wasnt an oh dear at you
#1239 [12:55] <pyromaniac3814> thanks
#1240 [12:56] <pyromaniac3814> does that part list support it ?
#1241 [12:56] * Calinou rates the page on wikipedia, "did you know you can edit this page" appears :|
#1241 [12:56] * Calinou is not an employee in a company that makes CPUs, thank you
#1241 [12:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: no, but you dont need it
#1242 [12:56] <pyromaniac3814> i see
#1243 [12:57] <Denizen> hyperthreading does NOTHING for gaming
#1244 [12:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> ^
#1245 [12:57] <Denizen> infact some benchmarks I've seen show that it mildly decreases performance
#1246 [12:57] <pyromaniac3814> how about having 16 tabs open ?
#1247 [12:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> pyromaniac3814: you dont need hyperthreading for 16 tabs
#1248 [12:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
#1249 [12:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> 16 tabs is about usual for me
#1250 [12:58] <Denizen> three is usual for me
#1251 [12:58] <Denizen> ha
#1252 [12:58] <pyromaniac3814> lol 316 tabs all playing youtube hd youtube vids ?
#1253 [12:58] * Calinou can have 60 tabs open in chromium
#1253 [12:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> no clue but tahts just silly anyway
#1254 [12:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> *thats
#1255 [12:58] <Calinou> http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-snapshots/index.html -- 8)
#1256 [12:58] <pyromaniac3814> true
#1257 [12:58] <Calinou> (chromium is the same thing as chrome, but without google's tracking and a different logo)
#1258 [12:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: that isnt even true
#1259 [12:59] <Calinou> it is
#1260 [12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> no it really isnt
#1261 [12:59] * Calinou irons WhereIsMySpoon's feet
#1261 [12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> chromium is a testing bed for chrome
#1262 [12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> its less stable than chrome
#1263 [12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> and has less qa done to it
#1264 [12:59] <pyromaniac3814> i like chrome when it works like it should
#1265 [12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> its roughly the same
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#1267 [12:59] <Calinou> wikipedia has the answer! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)
#1268 [12:59] <Denizen> if you're going to use a chrome variant use comodo
#1269 [12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> but is not "the same with a different logo"
#1270 [12:59] <Calinou> chromium is open source software under the BSD license; it is the "base" of google chrome
#1271 [12:59] <Calinou> it is as stable as google chrome
#1272 [13:00] <Calinou> it has some newer features, optionally, such as the "do not track" button
#1273 [13:00] <Smanly> erm... I just realized this is #minecrafthelp...
#1274 [13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> yea we're a bit offtopic
#1275 [13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#1276 [13:00] <Smanly> Yeah, lol/
#1277 [13:00] <pyromaniac3814> lol well nobody has asked anything yet
#1278 [13:00] <pyromaniac3814> haha
#1279 [13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: being obsessed over open source is just as bad as being a windows fanboi
#1280 [13:00] <Smanly> But still.
#1281 [13:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> there are pros and cons to both
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#1283 [13:01] <pyromaniac3814> lol i have a habbit of turning these rooms to differant topics lol sry
#1284 [13:02] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: this is open source at no cost (just a different logo; who cares?)
#1285 [13:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> *sigh*
#1286 [13:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> Chrome doesnt cost anything either :p
#1287 [13:02] <Calinou> there are no pros to proprietary software compared to OSS, technically
#1288 [13:02] <Raphy963> Hi, now with my Migrated account, it redirect me to the index but i'm not logged. Will it be fixed soon?
#1289 [13:02] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: privacy; google tracks you, you don't know?
#1290 [13:02] <pyromaniac3814> i like chrome
#1291 [13:02] <pyromaniac3814> lol
#1292 [13:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: oh freakin no, they have my shopping habits
#1293 [13:02] <Raphy963> Oh, i can't connect on minecraft.net
#1294 [13:03] <pyromaniac3814> i like there browser tracking
#1295 [13:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> Raphy963: er, what?
#1296 [13:03] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: so you do not want free additional privacy, and annoying google (because they get less money :D)?
#1297 [13:03] <Calinou> :<
#1298 [13:03] <Smanly> Guys, Please keep on topic.
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#1300 [13:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes, my shopping habits give google a large %age of their money
#1301 [13:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> :|
#1302 [13:03] <Raphy963> I can't connect with my migrated account on minecraft.net, yesterday it refreshed the login page but today it redirect me to the index.
#1303 [13:03] <Calinou> well, back on topic now (we're far from it!)
#1304 [13:04] <Calinou> Raphy963: we cannot help with account issues here, sorry. we are not affiliated with mojang
#1305 [13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> Raphy963: you're logging in with the email right?
#1306 [13:04] <pyromaniac3814> oo oo oo a question
#1307 [13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: we can help somewaht :)
#1308 [13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> just not when it gets to payment issues
#1309 [13:04] <Raphy963> Yes, i talked with Marc yesterday and he said that he contacted the web team and it will be fixed soon, just wanted to know if it will be fixed soon cause now i have not the same problem with login
#1310 [13:05] <pyromaniac3814> do you know when the pc minecraft got cats ?
#1311 [13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> Raphy963: then you have to wait
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#1313 [13:05] <Raphy963> Hope that will be fixed for friday, i make a live Minecraft all night long
#1314 [13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> Raphy963: me too! :)
#1315 [13:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> as in i hope it is fixed as well
#1316 [13:06] <Raphy963> Yup, all my friend have a skin but not me :( I look like a 12 years old griefer
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#1318 [13:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
#1319 [13:07] <Raphy963> I connected to a server yesterday, somebody said i was a griefer i said that i was new and they banned me because i have the default skin
#1320 [13:07] <Raphy963> O_O
#1321 [13:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> sounds pretty douchey
#1322 [13:07] <Raphy963> Yup
#1323 [13:07] <pyromaniac3814> i dont grief i troll lol its less damage more anoying
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#1325 [13:08] <Raphy963> I don't grief, i'm just trollin with Lava Bucket :D
#1326 [13:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> :|
#1327 [13:08] <pyromaniac3814> i like to build redstone traps lol
#1328 [13:08] <Raphy963> Redstone computer
#1329 [13:08] <pyromaniac3814> pistons timed to almost kill but not quite
#1330 [13:09] <pyromaniac3814> 1 arrow shot at you when you use your bed stuff like that
#1331 [13:10] <pyromaniac3814> water it a troll tool
#1332 [13:10] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_performance < Ctrl+F "2000�" here 8)
#1333 [13:10] <pyromaniac3814> lava it the tool of a griefer
#1334 [13:10] <Calinou> :D
#1335 [13:10] <Calinou> :D
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#1337 [13:11] <Raphy963> World Edit - Select a big part of the map - //replace grass lava
#1338 [13:11] * Calinou has a stone camo skin, so that he can hide in caves when sneaking
#1338 [13:11] <Calinou> not very efficient, but it might work, who knows
#1339 [13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> NVIDIA Quadro 2000m 550MHz xD
#1340 [13:11] <Raphy963> Transparent skin :P
#1341 [13:11] <Diablodoct0r> Wow
#1342 [13:11] <Calinou> you can't have a transparent skin
#1343 [13:11] <Diablodoct0r> Antialiasing today is shit
#1344 [13:11] <Calinou> Diablodoct0r: indeed it is, I never use it
#1345 [13:11] <pyromaniac3814> dirt skin would be sweet
#1346 [13:12] <Diablodoct0r> I mean seriously even CSAA x16 is worse than imagined
#1347 [13:12] * Calinou tells his nvidia driver: "If you see antialiasing, disable it, and tell it to never come back."
#1347 [13:12] <Diablodoct0r> Why though?
#1348 [13:12] <pyromaniac3814> i want to be DIRT MAN !!!!
#1349 [13:12] <Diablodoct0r> Doesn't antialiasing improve stuff?
#1350 [13:12] <Calinou> reduces FPS a lot, creates artifacts
#1351 [13:12] * Denizen is now known as Shitlord
#1352 [13:12] <pyromaniac3814> FEAR THE DIRT MAN !!
#1353 [13:12] <Calinou> jagged edges are more realistic
#1354 [13:12] <pyromaniac3814> hahahaha
#1355 [13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> Diablodoct0r: aa smoothes corners
#1356 [13:12] <Calinou> want "anti aliasing"? play with non-native resolutions (smaller)
#1357 [13:12] <Diablodoct0r> Exactly, so things aren't as pixely
#1358 [13:13] <Calinou> pixely but it works
#1359 [13:13] <Diablodoct0r> Eww.
#1360 [13:13] <pyromaniac3814> they could have a dirt clan
#1361 [13:13] <Diablodoct0r> I've got GTX 690
#1362 [13:13] <Calinou> O_o
#1363 [13:13] <Diablodoct0r> I don't care about framerate
#1364 [13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> =/
#1365 [13:13] <Shitlord> you rich fucker
#1366 [13:13] <Diablodoct0r> I've got 2 of them infact
#1367 [13:13] * AuBot kicked Shitlord from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hitlord :Please keep it civil.)
#1368 [13:13] <Calinou> was talking about that earlier, that GPU :p
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#1370 [13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> rofl
#1371 [13:13] <Diablodoct0r> 2x GTX 690
#1372 [13:13] <Diablodoct0r> >_>
#1373 [13:13] <Shitlord> effer
#1374 [13:13] <Calinou> 570gtx here
#1375 [13:13] <Calinou> highfive for nvidia
#1376 [13:13] <Diablodoct0r> 120 Hz screen
#1377 [13:13] * Diablodoct0r hifives
#1377 [13:13] <Calinou> 60hz here :p
#1378 [13:13] <Shitlord> 6870
#1379 [13:13] <Diablodoct0r> So really, I just want it to look smooth
#1380 [13:13] <Raphy963> Core i7 4.3GhZ - GTX 560 TI, 8Gb RAM DDR3 - Minecraft with a big map 10FPS
#1381 [13:13] <Raphy963> OMG
#1382 [13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> Diablodoct0r: you a fackin rich man :p
#1383 [13:13] <Calinou> fun fact: I use VGA
#1384 [13:13] <Calinou> no joke
#1385 [13:13] <Diablodoct0r> :3
#1386 [13:14] <pyromaniac3814> is there a dirt camo skin ?
#1387 [13:14] <Calinou> pyromaniac3814: you can make one yourself
#1388 [13:14] <Diablodoct0r> I got 16 GB RAM
#1389 [13:14] <Shitlord> I use hdmi hookup to a 1680x1050
#1390 [13:14] <Diablodoct0r> and uh, SSD + 3 TB HDD
#1391 [13:14] <Diablodoct0r> 3D screen
#1392 [13:14] <pyromaniac3814> o i forgot about that
#1393 [13:14] <Diablodoct0r> 27"
#1394 [13:14] <Diablodoct0r> 1080p
#1395 [13:14] <Shitlord> 22"
#1396 [13:14] <Raphy963> fun fact : School computer have Core 2 duo 3.2Ghz with 2Gb RAM. Everything is slow and boot up take 6 minutes
#1397 [13:14] <Diablodoct0r> Perfect size, standard resolution like I want
#1398 [13:14] <Diablodoct0r> My CPU ain't so good tho
#1399 [13:14] <Diablodoct0r> I should buy a new one
#1400 [13:14] <Shitlord> what do you have
#1401 [13:14] <Diablodoct0r> i7 3930K
#1402 [13:15] <Shitlord> k
#1403 [13:15] <Raphy963> I play Skyrim with Pentium D man why a Core i7 ?
#1404 [13:15] <Calinou> http://ompldr.org/vZnFubg/dirt_camo.png pyromaniac3814
#1405 [13:15] <Calinou> :) made in 30 seconds with gimp
#1406 [13:15] <Shitlord> you can't play skyrim with a pentium d
#1407 [13:15] <Diablodoct0r> lmao
#1408 [13:15] <Calinou> Raphy963: that's because they have lots of bloatware... and windows. 8D
#1409 [13:15] <Diablodoct0r> pentium
#1410 [13:15] <Calinou> save and upload when logged in to minecraft.net, pyromaniac3814
#1411 [13:15] <Diablodoct0r> You might be able to handle skyrim on pentium 4, 4 FPS
#1412 [13:15] <Calinou> Diablodoct0r: skyrim is terrible
#1413 [13:15] <Shitlord> no
#1414 [13:15] <Raphy963> Pentium D - Skyrim - 30FPS
#1415 [13:15] <Diablodoct0r> I agree
#1416 [13:16] <Shitlord> you might not be able to handle skyrim at all
#1417 [13:16] <Raphy963> This isn't so bad
#1418 [13:16] <Diablodoct0r> I hate skyrim with a passion
#1419 [13:16] <Calinou> technically
#1420 [13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> Diablodoct0r: why
#1421 [13:16] <Calinou> highfive Diablodoct0r :)
#1422 [13:16] <Diablodoct0r> hi5
#1423 [13:16] <Raphy963> Got to go
#1424 [13:16] <Raphy963> Bye
#1425 [13:16] <Diablodoct0r> Because it was ruined and ported and bloated, WhereIsMySpoon
#1426 [13:16] <Diablodoct0r> Even my GTX can't make that game look good
#1427 [13:16] <Shitlord> what
#1428 [13:16] <Shitlord> oh
#1429 [13:16] <Diablodoct0r> Fricken PS3 development
#1430 [13:16] <Shitlord> doesn't look too good on consoles either
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#1432 [13:16] <Diablodoct0r> It's seriously such a letdown
#1433 [13:16] <Shitlord> because it didn't have good graphics to begin with
#1434 [13:16] <Shitlord> plus what about the gameplay
#1435 [13:17] <Shitlord> how's that
#1436 [13:17] <Diablodoct0r> Animations are slow, killmoves are lame
#1437 [13:17] <Calinou> consoles are terrible; not only they are expensive (games), they are also closed and vendor locked
#1438 [13:17] <Calinou> this does not happen with computers
#1439 [13:17] <Diablodoct0r> Aye.
#1440 [13:17] <Diablodoct0r> Nintendo 64 were the good days
#1441 [13:17] <Diablodoct0r> After that, consoles turned to shit
#1442 [13:17] <Calinou> you need to PAY to make your own games
#1443 [13:17] <Calinou> homebrew excluded
#1444 [13:18] <Calinou> the ouya might fix this though, but it will probably not be popular (not even sold in stores)
#1445 [13:18] <Diablodoct0r> I submitted my rig into a newspaper ranking, I think I get 1st place
#1446 [13:18] <Diablodoct0r> :D
#1447 [13:18] <Calinou> skyrim doesn't look that cool if you want a playable game... try xonotic :p
#1448 [13:18] <Smanly> Guise
#1449 [13:18] <Smanly> wat r u doing
#1450 [13:18] <Smanly> guise
#1451 [13:18] <Smanly> stahp
#1452 [13:18] <Calinou> Smanly: do not tell people to go on topic here. go to ##linux @ freenode, it is easier.
#1453 [13:19] <Diablodoct0r> ^ best way to say "stop" I've heard
#1454 [13:19] <pyromaniac3814> skyrim is a game ???
#1455 [13:19] <Diablodoct0r> Skyrim's a cloud bro
#1456 [13:19] <Smanly> Calinou: wat
#1457 [13:19] <pyromaniac3814> i thought it was a movie
#1458 [13:19] <Calinou> lol
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#1460 [13:19] <Diablodoct0r> XD
#1461 [13:19] <Diablodoct0r> wat
#1462 [13:19] <pyromaniac3814> lol i feel dumb
#1463 [13:19] <Diablodoct0r> you should
#1464 [13:20] <Diablodoct0r> Though I admit I still like legacy games more
#1465 [13:20] <Diablodoct0r> Terraria's my favorite game right now
#1466 [13:20] <Diablodoct0r> I seriously can't stop playing it
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#1468 [13:20] <Diablodoct0r> Terraria, Nexuiz, Worms Armageddon, NightSky..
#1469 [13:21] <Calinou> nexuiz is dead
#1470 [13:21] <Calinou> play xonotic
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#1472 [13:21] <Calinou> (why do people still play it? i am surprised, it's like blood frontier)
#1473 [13:21] <Diablodoct0r> hmm
#1474 [13:21] <Diablodoct0r> I've never seen that before
#1475 [13:21] <Diablodoct0r> I'll DL
#1476 [13:21] <Calinou> you can play with nexuiz balance/physics in xonotic too
#1477 [13:21] <Calinou> http://xonotic.org
#1478 [13:22] <Calinou> basically, the sequel of nexuiz, since "nexuiz" trademark has been bought by illfonic who made a commercial game about it (it sucks, btw!)
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#1481 [13:22] <Diablodoct0r> ah
#1482 [13:22] <Diablodoct0r> I liked Nexuiz a bit
#1483 [13:22] <Diablodoct0r> Reminds me of UT2004
#1484 [13:22] <Calinou> xonotic is awesome; it has vehicles
#1485 [13:22] <Diablodoct0r> and Quake
#1486 [13:22] <Diablodoct0r> o_o wut
#1487 [13:22] <Diablodoct0r> Well I'm still waiting to try Halo 2
#1488 [13:22] <Calinou> this pwns battlefield3 :P
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#1490 [13:23] <Shitlord> tribes is better than xonotic
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#1492 [13:24] <Calinou> tribes is meh; legends is better but noone plays it, like quake2world
#1493 [13:24] <Calinou> T:A is skyrim version tribes
#1494 [13:24] <Diablodoct0r> Total Annihilation is awesome
#1495 [13:24] <Diablodoct0r> But, which is your TA
#1496 [13:24] <Calinou> T:A == tribes:ascend
#1497 [13:24] <Diablodoct0r> ah okay
#1498 [13:25] <Diablodoct0r> Man I'm such a waste
#1499 [13:25] <Shitlord> mhm
#1500 [13:25] <Diablodoct0r> I bought this rig just so I can play DOS games
#1501 [13:25] <Shitlord> useless
#1502 [13:25] <Shitlord> what
#1503 [13:25] <Diablodoct0r> XD
#1504 [13:25] <Diablodoct0r> <3
#1505 [13:25] <Calinou> you can run DOS stuff on linux too :p
#1506 [13:25] <Shitlord> you didn't even build it yourself?
#1507 [13:25] <Diablodoct0r> I know, it was figurative
#1508 [13:25] <Diablodoct0r> Of course I did
#1509 [13:25] <Shitlord> oh
#1510 [13:25] <Shitlord> thank god
#1511 [13:25] <Diablodoct0r> But I still prefer old games
#1512 [13:25] <Smanly> At least you dont lag.
#1513 [13:25] <Diablodoct0r> ha, yeah
#1514 [13:25] <Diablodoct0r> Well actually I do..
#1515 [13:25] <Calinou> my computer was at an interesting price, but it has windows preinstalled - building it myself without an OS would be MORE expensive
#1516 [13:25] <Calinou> this is terrible
#1517 [13:25] <Diablodoct0r> BF3 *cough*
#1518 [13:25] <Smanly> lol
#1519 [13:26] <Shitlord> uh
#1520 [13:26] <Diablodoct0r> I set my GTX settings wrong and it went woo
#1521 [13:26] <Shitlord> I can max bf3 with my 6870 and i5
#1522 [13:26] <Calinou> both BF and CoD suck IMO
#1523 [13:26] <Diablodoct0r> Yes I can that too, but I think I did something wrong during software install
#1524 [13:26] <Diablodoct0r> But I fixed that.
#1525 [13:26] <Diablodoct0r> Runs smoothly now
#1526 [13:26] <Shitlord> CoD is horrid because of its online community
#1527 [13:26] <Calinou> I can't understand why do people like slow paced FPSes so much
#1528 [13:26] <Shitlord> BF3 is fine
#1529 [13:26] <Calinou> FOSS FPSes are far better; these are faster paced. it is more fun.
#1530 [13:26] <Diablodoct0r> BF3 and CoD are fine, I don't care about the kids, I just play man
#1531 [13:26] <Diablodoct0r> FOSS?
#1532 [13:27] <Shitlord> I care
#1533 [13:27] <Shitlord> I don't like sqeaky 10 year olds on the mic
#1534 [13:27] <Diablodoct0r> Shitlord: Deactivate mic volume?
#1535 [13:27] <Shitlord> sometimes mic volume is necessary
#1536 [13:27] <Shitlord> to like
#1537 [13:27] <Diablodoct0r> Then again, that's troublesome if you play clan
#1538 [13:27] <Diablodoct0r> yeah
#1539 [13:27] <Shitlord> gameplay
#1540 [13:27] <Calinou> FOSS = free and open source software, note the "free" here means "free software", not price
#1541 [13:27] <Calinou> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
#1542 [13:27] <Diablodoct0r> Well I dream of making FOSS in Unity soon
#1543 [13:27] <Diablodoct0r> Just need to assemble a team
#1544 [13:28] <Diablodoct0r> wait, did I say FOSS
#1545 [13:28] <Diablodoct0r> I meant FPS.
#1546 [13:28] <Diablodoct0r> lol.
#1547 [13:28] <Diablodoct0r> Fast paced FPS.
#1548 [13:28] <Shitlord> a unity fps
#1549 [13:28] <Shitlord> lol good luck
#1550 [13:28] <Diablodoct0r> Don't underestimate Unity.
#1551 [13:28] <Calinou> unity is a proprietary engine
#1552 [13:28] <Diablodoct0r> They've made amazing shit in it.
#1553 [13:28] <Calinou> you cannot make FOSS with it
#1554 [13:28] <Diablodoct0r> I know.
#1555 [13:28] <Calinou> use an engine like cube 2, or darkplaces
#1556 [13:28] <Diablodoct0r> I meant FPS.
#1557 [13:28] <Calinou> these are better and more open
#1558 [13:28] * Shitlord is now known as den|Away
#1559 [13:28] <Calinou> (and free to use while we're at it.)
#1560 [13:28] <Diablodoct0r> "better" you say.
#1561 [13:28] <Diablodoct0r> "different" I say.
#1562 [13:28] <Diablodoct0r> One-time fee, I can bare with.
#1563 [13:29] <Diablodoct0r> Already got my version of Unity.
#1564 [13:29] <Diablodoct0r> If you don't wanna pay, don't.
#1565 [13:29] <Diablodoct0r> If you know what I mean.
#1566 [13:29] <Calinou> cube 2 lets you create custom menus without editing source code; you can do WHATEVER you want with the code, including selling derivative works
#1567 [13:29] <Calinou> supports many recent graphical features
#1568 [13:29] <Calinou> and ingame map editing, which can be done in multiplayer
#1569 [13:29] <Calinou> no more hassle with *Radiant
#1570 [13:29] <Diablodoct0r> Yeah but the thing with Unity is that it lets you create any type of game, very easily.
#1571 [13:29] <Diablodoct0r> Seen StarForge?
#1572 [13:29] <Diablodoct0r> That shit's made in Unity.
#1573 [13:29] <Calinou> no
#1574 [13:30] <Diablodoct0r> It's got voxel terrain, editable ingame
#1575 [13:30] <Diablodoct0r> Coolest game ever.
#1576 [13:30] <Calinou> cube 2 is octa, not voxel, you can make slopes and stuff
#1577 [13:30] <Diablodoct0r> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxBSYit49c8
#1578 [13:30] <Diablodoct0r> ^ Watch.
#1579 [13:30] <Diablodoct0r> Very worth it
#1580 [13:30] <Diablodoct0r> Ignore the first part
#1581 [13:30] <Diablodoct0r> The cool stuff comes halfway through
#1582 [13:30] <Calinou> can't watch youtube for now; my connection says no
#1583 [13:31] * Calinou 's connection is 2.4/0.4 megabits...
#1583 [13:31] <Calinou> 77% slower than average of france (yes, I am french)
#1584 [13:31] <Calinou> one of the rare non-guessable french people 8)
#1585 [13:31] <Diablodoct0r> okay well
#1586 [13:31] <Diablodoct0r> StarForge is like this:
#1587 [13:32] <Diablodoct0r> Infinite world size like Minecraft, except it's not made of squares and looks normal. And it's infinite upwards as well, you can enter space, go to the moon, jump and fall for an hour until you breach the atmosphere.
#1588 [13:32] <Diablodoct0r> Voxel and directly editable terrain, like if you were using a brush in paint. Make tunnels with your mouse. And also block placement like Minecraft when making forts in "Protect the fort".
#1589 [13:32] <Calinou> true-infinite maps are impossible, remembeer
#1590 [13:32] <Diablodoct0r> right right.
#1591 [13:32] <Diablodoct0r> But virtually infinite.
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#1593 [13:33] <FLHerne> Calinou: Well, not technically :P
#1594 [13:33] <Diablodoct0r> Entirely physics-driven character. If you hit something, you stumble. If you run into a wall, you tumble.
#1595 [13:33] <Diablodoct0r> Etc etc
#1596 [13:33] <Diablodoct0r> I tried the game, and the atmosphere is breathtaking.
#1597 [13:33] <FLHerne> Not practically implementable, but that's different :P
#1598 [13:33] <Diablodoct0r> You enter the game and you feel like the environment is overwhelming you.
#1599 [13:34] <Diablodoct0r> I have no idea how they achieved that aestethic, maybe some kind of fisheye effect and something else, it feels incredibly spectacular by just looking in a random direction.
#1600 [13:34] <Diablodoct0r> The game's amazing.
#1601 [13:34] <Diablodoct0r> Ingame guis, menus, customizations, you name it.
#1602 [13:34] <Diablodoct0r> Made in Unity.
#1603 [13:34] <Calinou> fisheeye or how to play with FOVs >= 180 :D
#1604 [13:34] <Calinou> unity is also the name of ubuntu's DE, which sucks. 8D
#1605 [13:34] <Diablodoct0r> Unity3D
#1606 [13:34] <Calinou> i know
#1607 [13:34] <Diablodoct0r> Anyway, Unity is more than you need.
#1608 [13:34] <Diablodoct0r> It's amazing.
#1609 [13:35] <Diablodoct0r> And editing maps in it and setting up things is easy as heck.
#1610 [13:35] <Diablodoct0r> Best game maker I've been using.
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#1612 [13:35] <Calinou> "more than you need is wrong", not a fond of full-featured engines, I prefer simple ones
#1613 [13:35] <Diablodoct0r> Coding can be done with C#, Boo, JS.. freely mixed
#1614 [13:35] <Calinou> C# is terrible
#1615 [13:35] <Diablodoct0r> But it works.
#1616 [13:35] <Calinou> :p
#1617 [13:35] <Diablodoct0r> And it does what you need.
#1618 [13:35] <Diablodoct0r> Who cares about syntax.
#1619 [13:36] <Calinou> it's not portable; as well as unity3d's games
#1620 [13:36] <Calinou> directx is not your friend
#1621 [13:36] <Calinou> only steve ballmer's
#1622 [13:36] <Diablodoct0r> I can compile my Unity games for the browser, Mac, PC, Android..
#1623 [13:36] <Diablodoct0r> iOS..
#1624 [13:36] <Diablodoct0r> Linux too soon, I think
#1625 [13:36] * Calinou is now playing assaultcube
#1625 [13:36] <Diablodoct0r> It's very portable.
#1626 [13:36] <Diablodoct0r> :)
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#1628 [13:37] <Calinou> closed irc client by mistake
#1629 [13:37] <Diablodoct0r> ha :p
#1630 [13:37] <Diablodoct0r> Well it's very multiplatform
#1631 [13:37] <Diablodoct0r> even browser.
#1632 [13:37] <FLHerne> Calinou: AssaultCube fun :-)
#1633 [13:37] <Diablodoct0r> So Unity3D is the best engine I know so far
#1634 [13:37] * FLHerne hasn't tried the Reloaded thing yet - is it any good?
#1634 [13:39] * Calinou likes camper maps
#1634 [13:39] <Calinou> wrong channel
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#1636 [13:40] <Diablodoct0r> anyway speak up if someone wants to play xonotic
#1637 [13:40] <Diablodoct0r> I haven't tried it yet
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#1641 [13:43] <cam> hello?
#1642 [13:43] <lutzee> hey
#1643 [13:43] <cam> i've got a question
#1644 [13:43] <Calinou> don't ask to ask; just ask
#1645 [13:45] <cam> i bought minecraft of mojang, sent me a email, it says: whers my game, i clicked the link below and it said: error! token counld not be found, how do i fix it
#1646 [13:45] <cam> ?
#1647 [13:46] <lutzee> ?? launcher
#1648 [13:46] <cam> i went on it i tryed to sign in but it said failed
#1649 [13:46] <lutzee> cam: get the launcher here https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1650 [13:47] <cam> itn the email it says i need a profile then click the link
#1651 [13:48] <cam> so i need a profile by clicking on the link but it says error taoken not found
#1652 [13:49] <cam> this is exactly what it says ( look down)
#1653 [13:49] <cam> Where is my Game?
#1654 [13:50] <cam> To start playing Minecraft you first need to create a profile for it. To do so just follow the link below (if that doesn't work, just copy and paste the link into your browser):
#1655 [13:50] <lutzee> you have registered on minecraft.net right?
#1656 [13:50] <cam> yeah
#1657 [13:51] <cam> i clicked buy now and it took me to buy it on mojang
#1658 [13:51] <lutzee> thats the account it is on about, once you have purchased the game, you can log into the launcher which i linked above
#1659 [13:51] <cam> really
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#1661 [13:52] <snowcatman> hello, i am in need of a winxp port redirector. for my servers
#1662 [13:52] <cam> i tryed taht but it says not premium
#1663 [13:53] <cam> can u just tell me the phone number of mojang support please
#1664 [13:54] <lutzee> There is no phone number.
#1665 [13:54] <cam> oh
#1666 [13:54] <cam> but i really need help
#1667 [13:54] <lutzee> Thats what we are here for
#1668 [13:55] <cam> but the dont know what im talking about
#1669 [13:55] <lutzee> You have purchased the game right?
#1670 [13:55] <cam> yes on mojang yesterday
#1671 [13:55] <lutzee> Did you get an email confirming the payment/
#1672 [13:55] <lutzee> ?
#1673 [13:55] <cam> yes
#1674 [13:56] <lutzee> How did you pay?
#1675 [13:56] <cam> it just took me to mojang and i bought it there
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#1677 [13:57] <lutzee> What payment method did you use? Paypal, Visa?
#1678 [13:57] <cam> visa delta/debit
#1679 [13:57] <mastersin> hi i recently migrated my MC account and now i cant break blocks on my own server as admin
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#1681 [13:58] <snowcatman> hello, i am in need of a winxp port redirector. for my servers. can you sugest me or point me to a free software thank you.
#1682 [13:58] <lutzee> cam: has the money left your bank account?
#1683 [13:58] <lutzee> snowcatman: sorry i don't understand what you mean
#1684 [13:59] <cam> i dont know but when it says login in failed i click play offline and i play
#1685 [13:59] <cam> but i cant go online
#1686 [13:59] <lutzee> login failed means your email/password is incorrect
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#1688 [14:01] <cam> wait where it says enter username do i put my email of name for account
#1689 [14:01] <Selbram> email
#1690 [14:01] <lutzee> yes use your email
#1691 [14:01] <cam> ohhh lut me try
#1692 [14:01] <snowcatman> i have server on site A and want to redirect port to server on site B. i have looked for awile to find a port redirector to do the job. looking for help
#1693 [14:02] <Selbram> you use the word server and windows xp at the same time
#1694 [14:02] <cam> IT WORKED THANK YOU SO MUCH
#1695 [14:02] <snowcatman> lol yes
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#1698 [14:03] <Selbram> so you are trying to redirect a connection from one windows machine to another windows machine?
#1699 [14:03] <lutzee> snowcatman: both servers are running on the same machine?
#1700 [14:03] <Selbram> I assume both behind the same router on the same network
#1701 [14:03] <snowcatman> no
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#1703 [14:03] <Selbram> two different locations?
#1704 [14:03] <snowcatman> yes
#1705 [14:03] <Selbram> why can't you connect to the second server directly?
#1706 [14:04] <TyanColte> i'm having an issue where my sound on my minecraft 1.2.5 installation will suddenly stop after a few minutes of play can anybody help?
#1707 [14:04] <lutzee> and why can't you point address 1 at server 1 and address 2 at server 2?
#1708 [14:04] <Selbram> ^
#1709 [14:04] <Selbram> a port forward across sites is going to add latency
#1710 [14:04] <snowcatman> thats a good point
#1711 [14:04] <lutzee> you reasiles that mc1.example.com can have a different IP address than MC2.example.com right?
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#1714 [14:05] <Selbram> and what lutzee said, if you are using dns just add another sub pointing to the different site
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#1716 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> !topic /4/Classic/Classic, deprecated,/
#1717 [14:10] <Selbram> nice update
#1718 [14:10] <TyanColte> anybody?
#1719 [14:11] <snowcatman> i ~ um well i am useing a folder sync to update whitelist from server a and dont want to loose web server. server b is running mc and i am pointing to it as is. poeple see web server "a" and enter address and cant login. but with port forward i can redirect them to site "b" can i show you my site. then maybe you can tell me what to do
#1720 [14:11] <Selbram> TyanColte: update minecraft?
#1721 [14:11] <TyanColte> can't
#1722 [14:11] <TyanColte> using a 1.2.5 ported mod bukkit server
#1723 [14:12] <TyanColte> can't update until bukkitforge comes out
#1724 [14:12] <Selbram> snowcatman: why don't you put the address of your mc server on your webserver?
#1725 [14:12] <lutzee> snowcatman: it would be a lot easier just to use mc.example.com as the server address then just sycn the whitelist like you are doing
#1726 [14:12] <Selbram> TyanColte: you mean you won't. I have never had sound issues. Are you running windows, mac, or linux?
#1727 [14:12] <TyanColte> windows
#1728 [14:13] <TyanColte> no... i CAN'T update because then i won't be able to log into my own server
#1729 [14:13] <Selbram> again, this is a won't thing
#1730 [14:13] <TyanColte> i mean i could backup my jar, force update then replace my jar, but i doubt that'll fix anything
#1731 [14:14] <Selbram> you are running an outdated client, are you modding it in any way?
#1732 [14:14] <TyanColte> yes
#1733 [14:14] <TyanColte> 41 mods
#1734 [14:14] <Selbram> on the client?
#1735 [14:14] <TyanColte> yep, and the server
#1736 [14:14] <snowcatman> it like this example:" snowman.no-ip.org and snowmen.no-ip.org " they get it confused and i hear about it all the time
#1737 [14:14] <Selbram> this is not the channel for you then
#1738 [14:14] <Selbram> ?? mods
#1739 [14:14] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1740 [14:14] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1741 [14:15] <lutzee> Selbram: sound cutting out is a common issue with vanilla i believe
#1742 [14:15] <TyanColte> thank you lutzee
#1743 [14:15] <Selbram> lutzee: with 41 mods installed I have no intention to begin troubleshooting
#1744 [14:15] <lutzee> TyanColte: you might want to try updating the lwjgl.jars to a newer version
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#1746 [14:15] <TyanColte> i tried that once, broke my minecraft alltogether :P
#1747 [14:15] <lutzee> Selbram: they will be forge mods, forge is a very stable platform.
#1748 [14:15] <TyanColte> ^
#1749 [14:16] <TyanColte> anyway, my friend and i have the EXACT same installation, (like he sent me his entire .minecraft folder) and it still doesn't work.
#1750 [14:16] <TyanColte> but it works for him
#1751 [14:16] <Selbram> I have enough trouble keeping up with the bukkit issues and plugins problems I help with. I am not going to add client mods to that list. No offense. :)
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#1754 [14:17] <lutzee> TyanColte: might be sound drivers then
#1755 [14:17] <TyanColte> that's fine Selbram lutzee is helping me now
#1756 [14:17] <Selbram> :)
#1757 [14:17] <TyanColte> i thought about that, but i just reinstalled windows and i was having the same problem before on my old installation with the latest realtek drivers and now that i'm reinstalled using the default windows drivers same issue
#1758 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> ??> TyanColte win/profile
#1759 [14:20] <VoxelHead> TyanColte: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1760 [14:20] <VoxelHead> TyanColte: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1761 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> TyanColte: that will isolate both mods and profile issues
#1762 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> since the new profile won't have any mods getting in the way
#1763 [14:21] <TyanColte> well in that case i can just disable all my mods and see if it fixes it
#1764 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> if it works fine on the new profile, install _one_ mod at a time
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#1766 [14:21] <TyanColte> but a new profile isn't going to tell me anything since this is a fresh install of windows
#1767 [14:22] <TyanColte> and it isn't the mods coz my friend has the exact same installation and his works fine
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#1770 [14:22] <TyanColte> before i do anything else i'm going to back up my MC.jar and force update then replace
#1771 [14:22] <Latino> hello
#1772 [14:22] <TyanColte> see if that fixes anything
#1773 [14:23] <Latino> can anyone help me?
#1774 [14:23] <Latino> hello
#1775 [14:23] <Selbram> Latino: ask
#1776 [14:23] <Latino> Can't buy minecraft, keep getting errors when trying to buy from paypal and visa
#1777 [14:24] <Selbram> be patient for someone to assist
#1778 [14:24] <Latino> ok
#1779 [14:24] <Latino> ok
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#1782 [14:27] <MOW> Hello, it wont let me buy minecraft with paypal or visa. Keep getting error messages
#1783 [14:27] <Selbram> You changed your name?
#1784 [14:27] <snowcatman> i updated my server so they have both address. but i still would like to idiot proof this. do you have any idea were i can get a port redirector software for free?
#1785 [14:28] <Selbram> MOW: What error messages? I am not good at troubleshooting these. I am just gathering information for others to try and help.
#1786 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> snowcatman: it should be build into your router, presuming you are using one.
#1787 [14:28] <lutzee> DopeGhoti: he wants to point it at a completely different IP address
#1788 [14:28] <snowcatman> router execpts ip adresses not domain names
#1789 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> MOW: If the errors are about a transaction being declined, and you are using a credit card, call the phone number on the back of the card and explain that you are trying to make an international transaction.
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#1792 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> snowcatman: so you want people to connect to your local connection and get bounced to another IP?
#1793 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> for best results, use a CNAME
#1794 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> (and a different domain for the minecraft server)
#1795 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> www.example.com -> your web site; mc.example.com -> your MC server
#1796 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> (sorry, not a CNAME record, just an A record)
#1797 [14:30] <Selbram> DopeGhoti: he has something in his head he wants to accomplish
#1798 [14:30] <lutzee> I've suggested that about 3 times allready
#1799 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> Being that I am in no one's head but my own..
#1800 [14:30] <Selbram> google search, http://sourceforge.net/projects/pjs-passport/
#1801 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> ?? telepathy
#1802 [14:30] <VoxelHead> telepathy: We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#1803 [14:31] <Selbram> snowcatman: I googled "port forwarder windows" third option down
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#1806 [14:33] <xy> Deos this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/117733-directional-audio/ also apply to linux? In particular, will replacing bin/natives/libopenal64.so with my system-wide libopenal (/usr/lib64/libopenal.so.1) bring any benefit?
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#1809 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> xy: it can't hurt to try
#1810 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> the worst that'll happen is that you'll have to have MC redoenload its default natives
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#1813 [14:36] <snowcatman> i have 2 difrant domains. but i am trying to understand the rest of what you telling me. just a record? ~cname . when they enter the domain in they will only get the mc domain. i only wanted one domain name? i am confused
#1814 [14:37] <lutzee> snowcatman: whats your domain
#1815 [14:37] <snowcatman> snowcatman.no-ip.org
#1816 [14:37] <lutzee> :|
#1817 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> snowcatman: ah, so you don't actually have your own domain
#1818 [14:37] <snowcatman> no
#1819 [14:37] <lutzee> We all assumed that you had purchased a domain name..
#1820 [14:37] <Selbram> this explains so much
#1821 [14:37] <snowcatman> sorry
#1822 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> snowcatman: get yourself a second no-ip (or other free hostname) hostname for your MC server
#1823 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> e. g. snowcatminecraft.no-ip.org or what have you
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#1825 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> and use that for your MC server
#1826 [14:38] <snowcatman> snowcatmen.no-ip.org
#1827 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> or, for best results, get an _actual_ domain name
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#1829 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> and then you can use one subdomain (e. g. www) for your web site, and another (e. g. mc) for your MC server
#1830 [14:40] <snowcatman> i have yet to collect donations to own my own domain
#1831 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> There's this thing that people do where they provide services in exchange for cash
#1832 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> I think it's called something like "gainful employment"
#1833 [14:40] <lutzee> It's like $20 for like 2 years
#1834 [14:41] <snowcatman> i see
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#1836 [14:42] <lutzee> And that is for a .com domain
#1837 [14:42] * lutzee is still waiting for a .ze TLD
#1837 [14:43] <Selbram> lol
#1838 [14:43] <lutzee> lut.ze would be a great domain ;)
#1839 [14:44] <xy> DopeGhoti: replacing the files helped. :) There was an annoying lag between button press and sound effect in main menu and that now is gone.
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#1844 [14:45] <KOD> Can't buy minecraft with paypal, get message There was an error processing the payment
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#1848 [14:45] <KOD> Can't buy minecraft with paypal, get message There was an error processing the payment
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#1850 [14:47] <KOD> Can't buy minecraft with paypal, get message There was an error processing the payment
#1851 [14:47] <Diablodoct0r> Can't buy minecraft with paypal, get message There was an error processing the payment
#1852 [14:47] <lutzee> ?? dont/repeat
#1853 [14:47] <VoxelHead> dont/repeat: There is absolutely no need to repeat messages in IRC. Messages do not 'expire' and unless there is a lot of conversation, your message is not going anywhere.
#1854 [14:47] <VoxelHead> dont/repeat: Failure to follow this rule is very irritating, clouds the chat, and is almost certain you get you kicked for spamming.
#1855 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> xy: glad to hear it!
#1856 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> KOD: / Diablodoct0r: If the errors are about a transaction being declined, and you are using a credit card, call the phone number on the back of the card and explain that you are trying to make an international transaction.
#1857 [14:49] <Diablodoct0r> sorry I was just repeating him randomly
#1858 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> Repeat the same question again and you will be invited to depart this venue.
#1859 [14:49] <Diablodoct0r> Not a clone xD
#1860 [14:49] <KOD> lol
#1861 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> Diablodoct0r: kindly don't do that in the future. The acoustics in here are fantastic and we don't need an echo (:
#1862 [14:50] <Diablodoct0r> ^^'
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#1868 [15:04] <ChipWee> Hi folks..:)
#1869 [15:05] <ChipWee> I'm hooked, I bought this game a few days ago to my 6yo, but now I have a dedicated server and full packets of jadajada :)
#1870 [15:05] <ChipWee> But.. What's a popular server config?
#1871 [15:06] <ChipWee> And how do I announce it?
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#1874 [15:07] <ChipWee> Hope this is the correct channel :)
#1875 [15:08] <ChipWee> It's going to be a permanent Norwegian MC server..that I know :)
#1876 [15:09] <NinjaKirby> What on earth is jadajada O_o
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#1878 [15:10] <ChipWee_> Ty wifi
#1879 [15:11] <NinjaKirby> If I understand the term correctly, I guess for server announcing you might want to turn Query on in the server.properties, and add yourself to some of the big name Server List websites.
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#1881 [15:11] <NinjaKirby> ?? smp
#1882 [15:11] <VoxelHead> smp: Survival Multi-Player
#1883 [15:11] <ChipWee_> It's. a kick that so many users are so silent....lol
#1884 [15:11] <NinjaKirby> Thanks voxelhead, not really what I wanted though
#1885 [15:12] <NinjaKirby> ?? smp/servers
#1886 [15:12] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1887 [15:12] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
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#1889 [15:13] <ChipWee_> OK, Ty!
#1890 [15:13] <NinjaKirby> I'm not sure there's much that can be done for Configuration though.
#1891 [15:13] <NinjaKirby> I suppose if you are having tens of people on at once, then allocating more memory the better.
#1892 [15:13] <NinjaKirby> In all, I don't have any great suggestions ^^;;
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#1894 [15:13] <NinjaKirby> Same can apparently be said if you have a lot of mods enabled.
#1895 [15:16] <NinjaKirby> A friend of mine at work, old enough to be my dad, now has to deal with his kids MC Clients, managing problems with Tekkit/Mods and his server. Amazing what parents get dragged into :3
#1896 [15:17] <ChipWee_> Yup, but in this case it's OK..MC is great!
#1897 [15:17] <ChipWee_> Makes a 6yo thinker grow :)
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#1899 [15:18] <ryzher> rte
#1900 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft is the Lincoln Logs of the 21st Century.
#1901 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> or perhals the Lego.
#1902 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> perhaps, even
#1903 [15:18] <ryzher> Hello, how can i chainge the brightnes on my mineraft ? i culd do it before but now i cant..
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#1906 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> ryzher: The first step is to wait for the answer you seek oh wait you didn't seeyabyekthx.
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#1909 [15:24] <ChipWee_> I guess I have to mod the server but I have no idea what's popular, I found a map with some star wars ..stuff, bet that will do :) is there a portal to mods/"Tekkit" I can check out?
#1910 [15:25] <ChipWee_> And what do a typical mod do?
#1911 [15:26] <ChipWee_> adding elks? New weapons? Graphic?
#1912 [15:26] <ChipWee_> Google, right?
#1913 [15:27] <ChipWee_> :)
#1914 [15:29] <ChipWee_> Found lots of info on yt, even made me a lighthouse yesterday..ehh..night ..dang I'm good ..lol
#1915 [15:30] <ChipWee_> Ok, mods and Tekkit ...and maps, and config, announcing ..think I got some info here. Ty!
#1916 [15:34] <TyanColte> well i force updated, replaced my 1.2.5 MC.jar, and so far so good
#1917 [15:34] <TyanColte> no sound cut outs yet
#1918 [15:35] <snowcatman> ok here is one for you, is ther a way to acces my server 1.3.2 mc threw browser?
#1919 [15:36] <snowcatman> i am using bukkit
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#1925 [15:43] <Jesse12521> I am on a macbook pro and am trying to just install minecraft normally on it, I've installed it before on my desktop pc but when I download it on my macbook it says it has been damaged and should be deleted
#1926 [15:44] <FLHerne> ??> Jesse12521 mac/gatekeeper
#1927 [15:44] <VoxelHead> Jesse12521: (mac/gatekeeper) Apple has recently added new security to recent versiona of OS X which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1928 [15:45] <FLHerne> Assuming You have Mountain Lion?
#1929 [15:45] <Jesse12521> I have the latest, that is mountain lion, right?
#1930 [15:45] <FLHerne> Yes
#1931 [15:46] <FLHerne> In that case, see what the bot posted :-)
#1932 [15:46] <Jesse12521> alright I'll try that
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#1934 [15:47] <Jesse12521> I found it, and changed it to anywhere
#1935 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Then try downloading minecraft again
#1936 [15:47] <Jesse12521> it worked! thanks!
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#1947 [15:58] <x_AreUMadBro_x> hello
#1948 [15:58] <x_AreUMadBro_x> can anyone mojang adminstrator help me?
#1949 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> There is nobody here that works for Mojang.
#1950 [15:58] <x_AreUMadBro_x> hmmm
#1951 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> We're all community members here, who volunteer our time to help out others. We are not employed by Mojang, nor do we get paid by them.
#1952 [15:59] <x_AreUMadBro_x> oh ok
#1953 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> With that said, what kind of help are you looking for?
#1954 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Maybe we can point you in the right direction?
#1955 [16:00] <x_AreUMadBro_x> can anyone help me then because i send a message to mojang via help fourms on mojang.com that my account has been hacked i did send my Paypal transaction id in it and my username and email but that was like 1 week ago
#1956 [16:00] <x_AreUMadBro_x> so ?
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#1958 [16:00] <x_AreUMadBro_x> when do i get a message back from them
#1959 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
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#1961 [16:01] <Guest68606> Why are my saves in the .minecraft folder but not in Minecraft itself
#1962 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> That's where minecraft saves its files. The minecraft that you run is just the launcher.
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#1964 [16:02] <Guest68606> Yeah but when i enter minecraft why are my saves not there
#1965 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> They may be corrupt
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#1967 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> ??> Guest68606 nullsave
#1968 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> The saves are only saved locally on the computer you played it on.
#1969 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Did you switch computers?
#1970 [16:03] <Guest68606> im on the same computer
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#1972 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> ??> Guest68606 save/null
#1973 [16:03] <VoxelHead> Guest68606: (save/null) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#1974 [16:03] <VoxelHead> Guest68606: (save/null) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#1975 [16:04] <Guest68606> do i download mcedit
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#1979 [16:10] <TyanColte> and there they go, sounds gone
#1980 [16:10] <TyanColte> damnit
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#1984 [16:17] <jimmy8390> Someone please help me I need help
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#1986 [16:18] <FLHerne> jimmy8390: With?
#1987 [16:18] <FLHerne> *facepalm*
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#1990 [16:23] <raphy963> hmmm, no change for the login problem on minecraft.net :/
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#1996 [16:32] <TyanColte> what login problem raphy963?
#1997 [16:32] <Chris> [06:26:35 AM] 23* 23raphy963 (~Mibbit@173-0-194-96.ubr03.labaie.derytele.com) has quit (23Client Quit23) <-- the can't stay logged in problem
#1998 [16:32] <TyanColte> i've never had that problem
#1999 [16:33] <TyanColte> i'm not having it today
#2000 [16:33] <Chris> I was making a crack at him, that he comes, complains, leaves :D
#2001 [16:33] <TyanColte> oh lol
#2002 [16:33] <Chris> that the problem lies with him, not anyone else :D
#2003 [16:33] <TyanColte> ah
#2004 [16:34] <TyanColte> well the only problem i'm having is my stupid sound cutting out after about an hour of gameplay on 1.2.5, already did a force update and replaced my MC.jar
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#2006 [16:35] <TyanColte> this problem has persisted through a windows reinstall
#2007 [16:35] <TyanColte> it seems to only happen when i have my machines on in IC2
#2008 [16:35] <TyanColte> but i can't confirm that
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#2010 [16:37] <Bhawat> what
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#2013 [16:37] <jimmy8390> Hello can someone help me
#2014 [16:38] <Chris> whats up?
#2015 [16:38] <Chris> awake too early/late? :D
#2016 [16:38] <jimmy8390> Yeah today my minecraft has been stuffing up.
#2017 [16:38] <jimmy8390> Well yesterday afternoon I should say
#2018 [16:38] <jimmy8390> I was in the middle of playing a server with friends
#2019 [16:38] <jimmy8390> and my minecraft client just froze, and shut down
#2020 [16:39] <jimmy8390> saying Minecraft has unexpectedly shut down
#2021 [16:39] <jimmy8390> And I went to go log back in
#2022 [16:39] <jimmy8390> And my username and password won't work anymore.
#2023 [16:39] <jimmy8390> It says login failed
#2024 [16:39] <jimmy8390> Before that it was working perfectly fine
#2025 [16:40] <jimmy8390> And I couldnt even log in the minecraft.net website
#2026 [16:40] <Chris> what's your username? is it jimmy8390?
#2027 [16:40] <jimmy8390> So I tried deleting everything and reinstalling minecraft
#2028 [16:40] <jimmy8390> Yeah its jimmy8390
#2029 [16:40] <Chris> !haspaid jimmy8390
#2030 [16:40] <Chris> ;haspaid jimmy8390
#2031 [16:40] <WugBot> jimmy8390 has NOT paid for minecraft.
#2032 [16:40] <Chris> o.o
#2033 [16:40] <jimmy8390> I have..
#2034 [16:40] <Chris> where did you purchase minecraft from?
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#2037 [16:41] <jimmy8390> I am from australia, but they dont sell in australian dollars, so
#2038 [16:41] <Chris> ??< index
#2039 [16:41] <jimmy8390> I had to buy it from some swedish site and i had to translate it
#2040 [16:41] <Chris> I'm from australia myself, and had no trouble using minecraft.net
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#2042 [16:41] <jimmy8390> Yeah I had to go through this swedish thing.
#2043 [16:41] <jimmy8390> And then I started playing soon
#2044 [16:42] <Chris> what's happened is the swedish site has gone and taken the money back off minecraft.net, which has then cancelled your account and they have kept your money
#2045 [16:42] <Chris> ?? scam
#2046 [16:42] <jimmy8390> And it was great, until for some random reason my minecraft wont work anymore
#2047 [16:42] <VoxelHead> scam: If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#2048 [16:42] <VoxelHead> scam: DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
#2049 [16:43] <jimmy8390> So thats why my friend who tried to buy minecraft... ended up losing 120 bucks somehow.
#2050 [16:43] <Chris> sounds about right
#2051 [16:43] <Chris> minecraft.net works perfectly fine for people from everywhere
#2052 [16:43] <jimmy8390> I dont get it.. all my other friends from school bought it from the australian linked to the swedish site
#2053 [16:43] <Chris> thanks to paypal :D
#2054 [16:43] <jimmy8390> And their minecraft is working fine
#2055 [16:43] <zkxs> for now
#2056 [16:44] <jimmy8390> ..
#2057 [16:44] <jimmy8390> So your saying
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#2059 [16:44] <jimmy8390> Everyone in australia is gonna lose their accounts...
#2060 [16:44] <jimmy8390> or whoever bought from the swedish site
#2061 [16:44] <Chris> no, everyone who bought it from there
#2062 [16:44] <bonney12> o-o
#2063 [16:44] <Chris> I'm from australia too, if my geoip is right, even the same state
#2064 [16:44] <zkxs> I'm just saying if you didn't buy from minecraft.net, the account isn't really yours
#2065 [16:44] <jimmy8390> Oh my god that sucks
#2066 [16:45] <bonney12> XD
#2067 [16:45] <jimmy8390> I was in so much stress
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#2069 [16:46] <lutzee> jimmy8390: mojang is a sweedish company, if you selected paypal, often the launguage will default to sweedish
#2070 [16:47] <bonney12> It didn't for me,
#2071 [16:47] <bonney12> but often it can
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#2073 [16:50] <jimmy8390> Oh my god so i got scammed 25 bucks lol
#2074 [16:51] <zkxs> Well, what was the website you bought from?
#2075 [16:51] <jimmy8390> Go to minecraft, go to store, australia, paypal, boom theres the site
#2076 [16:51] <jimmy8390> some swedish one
#2077 [16:51] <lutzee> jimmy8390: you haven't been scammed.
#2078 [16:52] <zkxs> If it was just paypal in swedish that you were linked to from minecraft.net, you're fine
#2079 [16:52] <lutzee> Mojang is From sweeden, so the launguage will default to ssweedish
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#2081 [16:53] <jimmy8390> Sooooo i havent been scammed
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#2083 [16:53] <jimmy8390> But I lost my account somehow dafuq
#2084 [16:54] <jimmy8390> I cant login daaaaamn
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#2086 [16:56] <lutzee> jimmy8390: did you migrate your account?
#2087 [16:56] <jimmy8390> Yep.
#2088 [16:56] <jimmy8390> I tried typing in the email, also doesnt work
#2089 [16:56] <Raphy963> You too? I have the same problem
#2090 [16:56] <lutzee> Are you using your email to log in?
#2091 [16:56] <jimmy8390> Yeah, doesnt work though
#2092 [16:56] <jimmy8390> Dude I was in the middle of playing an online game
#2093 [16:56] <Raphy963> You buyed Minecraft with the mojang website?
#2094 [16:57] <jimmy8390> The email and pass was remembered and everything
#2095 [16:57] <jimmy8390> Yes.
#2096 [16:57] <Raphy963> we have the same problem
#2097 [16:57] <Raphy963> come at me bro
#2098 [16:57] <jimmy8390> And then my minecraft froze and shut down and i cant log in again
#2099 [16:57] <jimmy8390> log in failed.
#2100 [16:57] <jimmy8390> and i cant even log in on the site
#2101 [16:57] <FLHerne> jimmy8390: Tried removing the 'lastlogin' file?
#2102 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 7
#2103 [16:57] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 7 = There are currently DNS issues with login.minecraft.net. Check this for login issues! ] ... set by [ Wug | Fri Sep 07 07:23:58 MST 2012 ]
#2104 [16:58] <jimmy8390> ...
#2105 [16:58] <jimmy8390> Well I deleted everything LOL
#2106 [16:58] <Raphy963> Link please?
#2107 [16:58] <lutzee> jimmy8390: confirm that you can log into your email account please.
#2108 [16:58] <jimmy8390> wait my hotmail or..
#2109 [16:58] <jimmy8390> minecraft..
#2110 [16:58] <lutzee> If its hotmail for your email then hotmail
#2111 [16:59] <jimmy8390> okay then lolol
#2112 [16:59] <Raphy963> So, this is a DNS Issue with login.minecraft.net when will it be fixed?
#2113 [16:59] <jimmy8390> okay wait a second
#2114 [16:59] <jimmy8390> Oh my god im retarded
#2115 [17:00] <jimmy8390> I forgot my hotmail password :3
#2116 [17:00] <jimmy8390> I usually have it remembered
#2117 [17:00] <Raphy963> lol
#2118 [17:00] <lutzee> I don't think that is the issue.
#2119 [17:00] <jimmy8390> I can log into it i just need to find the piece of paper with all my users and passes on it lol
#2120 [17:01] <jimmy8390> I logged into it yesterday
#2121 [17:01] <lutzee> Okay... do that
#2122 [17:01] <jimmy8390> so what do i do now lutzee
#2123 [17:01] <lutzee> I want to confirm that you can log into your email account.
#2124 [17:01] <jimmy8390> Okay..
#2125 [17:02] <jimmy8390> The thing is, my friend bought minecraft for me and i was watching him buy it for me but he put it on his email
#2126 [17:02] <jimmy8390> I had it written down somewhere but i cant find the stupid thing
#2127 [17:03] <jimmy8390> Do I have to be logged into my email account?
#2128 [17:03] <lutzee> No
#2129 [17:03] <lutzee> But theres something i want to rule out.
#2130 [17:03] <jimmy8390> OKay
#2131 [17:04] <jimmy8390> I can log in later though when my friends on fb i can ask him the password
#2132 [17:04] <jimmy8390> So lets clear that out of the way
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#2134 [17:04] <Raphy963> So me and JImmy have the same problem, will it be fixed soon?
#2135 [17:04] <CrafterWithAMind> I am having problem with connection and what not :|
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#2137 [17:05] <CrafterWithAMind> Any way to post pictures to simplify things?
#2138 [17:05] <jimmy8390> You could send a link to a picture
#2139 [17:05] <jimmy8390> using photobucket or something
#2140 [17:05] <jimmy8390> imgur
#2141 [17:05] <CrafterWithAMind> I think I will just explain.
#2142 [17:06] <jimmy8390> lutzee so whats gonna happen to me and raphys accounts?
#2143 [17:07] <jimmy8390> ...
#2144 [17:07] <lutzee> jimmy8390: I want to confirm you have access to the email address that is registered to your account. as for Raphy963 i don't know the circumstances.
#2145 [17:07] <jimmy8390> Yes I have access to the email address that is registered to my account.
#2146 [17:08] <Raphy963> I can't log to minecraft.net with my migrated account
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#2148 [17:08] <jimmy8390> My friend is online on fb and he just told me the password to the email so im all good to go
#2149 [17:08] <lutzee> I want to know at this moment in time that you can log into it
#2150 [17:08] <jimmy8390> wait
#2151 [17:08] <lutzee> Raphy963: check your email, i think marc sent you a password reset email
#2152 [17:09] <Raphy963> I didn't have any email from MArc
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#2155 [17:10] <Raphy963> I didn't have any error message when i try to login, it just a kind of refresh of the login page and i'm not logged
#2156 [17:10] <CrafterWithAMind> So I migrated my account to Mojang so I could try to get the email of a support person.
#2157 [17:10] <CrafterWithAMind> I found no such thing so I come here.
#2158 [17:11] <jimmy8390> Hang on lutzee im recovering my account
#2159 [17:11] <jimmy8390> i mean my email
#2160 [17:11] <lutzee> Raphy963: check your email for any emails relating to a password reset.
#2161 [17:11] <Raphy963> I have the good password i can log on mojang.com i didn't have any mail from Marc or Mojang Support
#2162 [17:12] <CrafterWithAMind> Problem with mojang is solved
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#2165 [17:13] <CrafterWithAMind> So, my current problem is I cannot log on to any multiplayer servers.
#2166 [17:13] <CrafterWithAMind> It has been this way for a few days now.
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#2168 [17:13] <Raphy963> Oops, unknown username or password. If you are logging in with a Mojang account make sure to use your e-mail address as username.
#2169 [17:13] <CrafterWithAMind> It says Connection Refused:Connect each and every time.
#2170 [17:13] <Raphy963> Now, i have that
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#2172 [17:14] <CrafterWithAMind> Is there any way I can get back on to multiplayer?
#2173 [17:15] <jimmy8390> Umm lutzee
#2174 [17:15] <jimmy8390> I can't get on the email right now
#2175 [17:15] <lutzee> Yes?
#2176 [17:15] <jimmy8390> But i can soon
#2177 [17:15] <lutzee> Right... as i expected.
#2178 [17:15] <jimmy8390> mmhm
#2179 [17:16] <jimmy8390> So what do i have to do, wait until i get the password?
#2180 [17:16] <lutzee> I believe that your email was comprimised and subsequently the minecraft account assosiated with it was migrated to a mojang account and the password changed.
#2181 [17:17] <jimmy8390> Yeah...
#2182 [17:17] <jimmy8390> And i've been playing with the new password and with the mojang email for a while now
#2183 [17:17] <jimmy8390> idk why its not working anymore
#2184 [17:17] <jimmy8390> or unless my friend changed the password O.o
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#2186 [17:18] <Raphy963> It piss me off, i buyed Minecraft yesterday but i can't connect on minecraft.net this is so frustating!!!
#2187 [17:19] <Raphy963> And now i can't login at all
#2188 [17:20] <jimmy8390> ..
#2189 [17:20] <jimmy8390> o.o
#2190 [17:20] <Raphy963> Oops, unknown username or password. If you are logging in with a Mojang account make sure to use your e-mail address as username. with another account who are not migrated
#2191 [17:20] <jimmy8390> Yeah same thing for me
#2192 [17:20] <Raphy963> Seriously?
#2193 [17:20] <jimmy8390> mmhm.
#2194 [17:21] <CrafterWithAMind> Could someone help me?
#2195 [17:21] <NinjaKirby> Someone will have to verify, but Marcus and the guys here recently identified a new issue (If I understand correctly), which at the time required manual intervention. This may or may not be related.
#2196 [17:21] <Raphy963> Maybe they fix it right now?
#2197 [17:21] <Raphy963> Yes, i think this is my issue, marc contacted the web Team he told me
#2198 [17:21] <Raphy963> Can't connect on minecraft.net with migrated account
#2199 [17:22] <Raphy963> Somebody have a working migrated account on minecraft.net?
#2200 [17:23] <jimmy8390> It was working perfectly fine for me like 8 hours ago
#2201 [17:23] <jimmy8390> I was playing online, then my game froze and shut down saying Minecraft shut down unexpectedly
#2202 [17:23] <jimmy8390> and i cant log back in -.-
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#2204 [17:23] <relucero> hello
#2205 [17:24] <relucero> my minecraft survival file crashed D:
#2206 [17:24] <relucero> I need help
#2207 [17:24] <relucero> hello?
#2208 [17:24] <Raphy963> Sorry, we are not robot
#2209 [17:24] <relucero> what?
#2210 [17:24] <jimmy8390> lol
#2211 [17:24] <relucero> i don't need a robot!
#2212 [17:25] <FLHerne> relucero: How did it crash?
#2213 [17:25] <Raphy963> Great! So wait like everyone
#2214 [17:25] <jimmy8390> relucero give us more details
#2215 [17:25] <relucero> I have a crash report
#2216 [17:25] <relucero> is there any way i can give it to you guys?
#2217 [17:25] <Raphy963> Pastebin
#2218 [17:25] <relucero> where is that?
#2219 [17:25] <Raphy963> google
#2220 [17:25] <relucero> well i know where the bin is but can i just paste it here?
#2221 [17:26] <Raphy963> yes, on pastebin
#2222 [17:26] <relucero> can i paste you the report here?
#2223 [17:26] <Raphy963> PASTEBIN
#2224 [17:26] <relucero> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Surprise! Haha. Well, this is awkward. Time: 10/3/12 3:20 PM Description: Unexpected error java.lang.NullPointerException at bbf.b(SourceFile:186) at bbd.a(SourceFile:62) at oa.j_(SourceFile:265) at vs.a(SourceFile:1214) at vs.g(SourceFile:1193) at vs.h(SourceFile:1118) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.l(SourceFile:1266) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.J(SourceFile:581) at net.mine
#2225 [17:26] <Raphy963> dskdjasldjasd
#2226 [17:26] <relucero> there is all the info
#2227 [17:26] <lutzee> ?? pastebin
#2228 [17:26] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2229 [17:26] <Raphy963> thank you :)
#2230 [17:27] <relucero> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Surprise! Haha. Well, this is awkward. Time: 10/3/12 3:20 PM Description: Unexpected error java.lang.NullPointerException at bbf.b(SourceFile:186) at bbd.a(SourceFile:62) at oa.j_(SourceFile:265) at vs.a(SourceFile:1214) at vs.g(SourceFile:1193) at vs.h(SourceFile:1118) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.l(SourceFile:1266) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.J(SourceFile:581) at net.mine
#2231 [17:27] <Raphy963> *rage*
#2232 [17:27] <relucero> that?
#2233 [17:27] <lutzee> relucero: Go to pastebin.com please.
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#2235 [17:27] <lutzee> It's a very useful website.
#2236 [17:27] <relucero> ok
#2237 [17:27] <relucero> im there
#2238 [17:27] <Raphy963> Oh my god, mojang deleted my account or what?
#2239 [17:28] <jimmy8390> so what am i supposed to do now lutzee
#2240 [17:28] <lutzee> Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2241 [17:28] <relucero> what do i do? :/
#2242 [17:28] <lutzee> jimmy8390: you need to find the transaction ID
#2243 [17:28] <jimmy8390> :L
#2244 [17:28] <relucero> http://pastebin.com/GVGuwjSE
#2245 [17:28] <Raphy963> OH GREAT i can't play minecraft now this is so sdfsdafsdfsdfsdf
#2246 [17:28] <relucero> that?
#2247 [17:28] <relucero> http://pastebin.com/GVGuwjSE
#2248 [17:29] <lutzee> relucero: we can't help with errors with the snapshots.
#2249 [17:29] <Raphy963> yes
#2250 [17:29] <jimmy8390> Thats gonna be annoying because my friend bought the game for me
#2251 [17:29] <jimmy8390> and he might of deleted it
#2252 [17:29] <lutzee> jimmy8390: His bank can provide the transaction ID
#2253 [17:29] <Raphy963> I bought minecraft for a friend after, AND EVERYTHING WORK FOR HIM OH THANK YOU MOJANG
#2254 [17:29] <jimmy8390> Oh god so much work
#2255 [17:29] <relucero> so there is nothing you can do?
#2256 [17:29] <jimmy8390> ill ask him to find the transaction id
#2257 [17:30] <Raphy963> Do you have any mods?
#2258 [17:30] <relucero> me? no i don't have any
#2259 [17:30] <relucero> i don't know how
#2260 [17:30] <Raphy963> It crash where?
#2261 [17:30] <relucero> what is the problem with the snapshots?
#2262 [17:30] <jimmy8390> Im just thinking of buying a new account -.- and give my friend the account back and get him to fix it lol
#2263 [17:31] <Raphy963> im just thinking of throwing a Molotov Cocktail on Mojang Building :)
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#2266 [17:31] <jimmy8390> OH MY GOD
#2267 [17:31] <jimmy8390> WTF
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#2269 [17:32] <jimmy8390> My friend just sent me a message from last night
#2270 [17:32] <jimmy8390> he said '' dude the minecraft account works fine i can go on online and log in the site''
#2271 [17:32] <jimmy8390> Why isnt it working for meeee! fuuu
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#2274 [17:32] <FLHerne> relucero: They're snapshots, part of the point is that they're in development and untested ;-)
#2275 [17:33] <ninjaminer74> how do i change from first person veiw?
#2276 [17:33] <Raphy963> F5
#2277 [17:33] <jimmy8390> f5
#2278 [17:33] <Raphy963> F13
#2279 [17:33] <jimmy8390> alt f4 ;)
#2280 [17:33] <ninjaminer74> f5 is volume i'm on a mac
#2281 [17:33] <Raphy963> Reset button
#2282 [17:34] <ninjaminer74> reset?
#2283 [17:34] <Raphy963> The power button
#2284 [17:34] <jimmy8390> Lutzee can you tell when I have changed my password?
#2285 [17:34] <jimmy8390> so i know if my friend has changed it or not
#2286 [17:34] <NinjaKirby> ninjaminer74: May have to rebound the keyboard key used in the Settings-Controls panel
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#2288 [17:34] <NinjaKirby> Within the game :)
#2289 [17:34] <lutzee> I am not affiliated with mojang in any way, i am part of the community who likes to help people as best as i can
#2290 [17:34] <relucero> http://pastebin.com/GVGuwjSE
#2291 [17:34] <relucero> http://pastebin.com/GVGuwjSEhttp://pastebin.com/GVGuwjSEhttp://pastebin.com/GVGuwjSE
#2292 [17:34] <relucero> http://pastebin.com/GVGuwjSE
#2293 [17:34] <ninjaminer74> ok thanks ninjakirby
#2294 [17:34] <Raphy963> =+=
#2295 [17:34] <relucero> help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
#2296 [17:34] <lutzee> I have less access to your account than i do
#2297 [17:34] <jimmy8390> ermahgerd you suck mojang
#2298 [17:35] <jimmy8390> mojang you are so confusing -.-
#2299 [17:35] <lutzee> relucero: We do not provide help with potentially buggy versions of the game here.
#2300 [17:35] <ninjaminer74> second question how do i change to gm?
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#2302 [17:35] <Raphy963> GM?
#2303 [17:35] <relucero> lutzee! plz!~
#2304 [17:35] <ninjaminer74> game mode
#2305 [17:35] <relucero> don't be a dick just help me or try!
#2306 [17:35] <Raphy963> relucero stop
#2307 [17:35] <NinjaKirby> ninjaminer74: If you are OP'd on a server, then "/gamemode 1" without quotations should change it
#2308 [17:36] <Raphy963> You can write survival creative too
#2309 [17:36] <relucero> -__- how can you call this minecrafthelp if it provides absolutely no help
#2310 [17:36] <Raphy963> 1 = Creative i think
#2311 [17:36] <NinjaKirby> Zero, instead of a One, would set you back to regular mode.
#2312 [17:36] <Raphy963> 1- Be polite 2- Ticket
#2313 [17:36] <ninjaminer74> um i don't have an OP'd server
#2314 [17:36] <jimmy8390> Lutzee, but while I was in the middle of an online session, it froze and shut down and at that point i couldnt log back in
#2315 [17:36] <Raphy963> i think you can use /gamemode command
#2316 [17:37] <relucero> ok can you guys help me with something else?
#2317 [17:37] <lutzee> jimmy8390: restart your PC
#2318 [17:37] <NinjaKirby> ninjaminer74: If you are playing on your own Map (Offline), then I'm not entirely sure, the same command might work
#2319 [17:37] <Raphy963> relucero alt +F4
#2320 [17:37] <jimmy8390> I have like 2 times
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#2322 [17:37] <jimmy8390> And i deleted everything about minecraft
#2323 [17:37] <ninjaminer74> ok i'll test it
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#2325 [17:37] <lutzee> relucero: we provide help for the current version of the game that is offcially released
#2326 [17:37] <relucero> thank goodness for the dilouge box telling me am i sure -__-
#2327 [17:37] <relucero> ralphy you are no help
#2328 [17:38] <relucero> ok lutzee i understand that so can i ask another question?
#2329 [17:38] <Raphy963> 1- IT'S RAPHY 2- Be polite, we are not robot, write like a normal person AND NOT LIKE THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2330 [17:38] <NinjaKirby> Aye, Raphy963 please refrain from such suggestions ^^;; Some people might not actually be aware of what some shortcuts do
#2331 [17:38] <ninjaminer74> ok power didn't work get me out of first person
#2332 [17:38] <relucero> LUTZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee
#2333 [17:38] <Raphy963> oh god
#2334 [17:39] <ninjaminer74> i need out of first person what do i type?
#2335 [17:39] <jimmy8390> Oh my god i hate you mojang why must you be so retarded
#2336 [17:39] <relucero> If i relplace my minecraft jar (snapshot) with the latest officially released one. What might happen?
#2337 [17:39] <lutzee> relucero: ask your question, i am trying to multitask here.
#2338 [17:39] <jimmy8390> aarrrghhh
#2339 [17:39] <jimmy8390> I just wanna play some damn minecraft
#2340 [17:39] <ninjaminer74> or press
#2341 [17:39] <Raphy963> Windows is F5 but rebind it in the settingd
#2342 [17:39] <Raphy963> settings*
#2343 [17:40] <lutzee> relucero: Potentially, corrupt the snapshot worlds.
#2344 [17:40] <relucero> forever?
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#2346 [17:40] <relucero> like if i already planted potatoes will the potatoes turn to weat or something?
#2347 [17:40] <jimmy8390> Screw this im tired of this crap
#2348 [17:40] <NinjaKirby> ninjaminer74: Regrettably, there isn't a configuration option for First/Third Person View in the Controls, you may have to access Minecraft files outside the game to make such a change.
#2349 [17:40] <jimmy8390> Im gonna buy a new minecraft account -.-
#2350 [17:40] <Raphy963> You should not
#2351 [17:40] <Raphy963> You should just wait 2 weeks :P
#2352 [17:41] <jimmy8390> why two weeks.
#2353 [17:41] <Raphy963> But i hope it will be fixed soon
#2354 [17:41] <relucero> LUTZE i know for sure it has nothing to do with the snapshot because my other worlds work just fine its just that my survival world does not work!
#2355 [17:41] <jimmy8390> I deleted minecraft though
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#2357 [17:41] <Raphy963> Badass :O
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#2359 [17:42] <jimmy8390> I cant redownload it properly again unless i have the login
#2360 [17:42] <jimmy8390> OMG
#2361 [17:42] <jimmy8390> NO
#2362 [17:42] <jimmy8390> FUCK THIS
#2363 [17:42] * AuBot kicked jimmy8390 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: immy8390 :Please keep it civil.)
#2364 [17:42] <Raphy963> wait
#2365 [17:42] <Raphy963> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#2366 [17:42] <Raphy963> Oh too late :S
#2367 [17:42] <relucero> It works for a second or maybe nothing and then it just crashes
#2368 [17:42] <relucero> can you help at all lutzee?
#2369 [17:43] <relucero> lutze?
#2370 [17:43] <relucero> lutze
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#2372 [17:43] <relucero> lutzeee?
#2373 [17:43] <relucero> luttze?
#2374 [17:43] <lutzee> -.-
#2375 [17:43] <Raphy963> I will keep it civil
#2376 [17:43] <relucero> :(
#2377 [17:43] <Raphy963> STOP!!!!
#2378 [17:43] <relucero> :((
#2379 [17:43] <Raphy963> One more :( ?
#2380 [17:43] <relucero> no
#2381 [17:43] <lutzee> relucero: Please stop spamming, before i invite you to leave this establishment.
#2382 [17:43] <NinjaKirby> Spamming will not incite Lutzee much to render aid :/
#2383 [17:43] <Raphy963> You should
#2384 [17:43] <relucero> i just want help i don't want to spam
#2385 [17:43] <relucero> STOP BEING A FUCKING FAGGOT LUTZE!
#2386 [17:43] * AuBot kicked relucero from #minecrafthelp (Reason: elucero :Please keep it civil.)
#2387 [17:43] <Raphy963> lol
#2388 [17:44] <NinjaKirby> Stop being such a spoilt child, good grief.
#2389 [17:44] <Raphy963> Another 8 years old kid (y)
#2390 [17:44] <Eddie> I'm sorry you have to go through this.
#2391 [17:44] <Eddie> :3
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#2393 [17:45] <Dark> Hello D:
#2394 [17:45] <Raphy963> You are in the Mojang Support Eddie ?
#2395 [17:45] <Dark> I need help from somebody
#2396 [17:45] <Dark> is anbody there?
#2397 [17:45] <Boreeas> Raphy963: No one here is officially part of Mojang
#2398 [17:45] <Boreeas> Dark: Nobody but us chickens
#2399 [17:45] <Dark> really?
#2400 [17:45] <Raphy963> Great :D
#2401 [17:45] <Dark> what?
#2402 [17:45] <Dark> i need help :'(
#2403 [17:45] <Dark> plz?
#2404 [17:45] <NinjaKirby> What's the problem, Dark?
#2405 [17:46] <Dark> my minecraft crashed and idk why it did!
#2406 [17:46] <Boreeas> Raphy963: We are a community-based support channel. If we are lucky, Marc comes and visits though :P
#2407 [17:46] <Boreeas> Dark: Any error message?
#2408 [17:46] <Dark> idk
#2409 [17:46] <Raphy963> Yeah i saw it yesteray
#2410 [17:46] <Dark> it said that to report the crash report
#2411 [17:46] <Dark> but where do i find that?
#2412 [17:47] <Boreeas> In the folder where the launcher is located, is there a file called hs_err<some number>?
#2413 [17:47] <Dark> no
#2414 [17:47] <Dark> oh wait
#2415 [17:47] <Dark> let me see
#2416 [17:48] <Dark> ok i found the crash report :D
#2417 [17:48] <Boreeas> Great. Paste it to http://pastebin.com please
#2418 [17:48] <Dark> ok
#2419 [17:49] <Dark> http://pastebin.com/wKfn8wmR
#2420 [17:49] <Dark> idk why it crashed :/
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#2422 [17:50] <Boreeas> Dark: Did that crash happen more than once?
#2423 [17:50] <Dark> it keeps happening
#2424 [17:50] <Dark> like when i click the world
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#2427 [17:51] <Dark> it works for a second or nothing and then it goes to the default minecraft backround (dirt) then it crashes
#2428 [17:52] <Dark> what can i do?
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#2430 [17:52] <Boreeas> ??> Dark win/reinst/bat
#2431 [17:52] <VoxelHead> Dark: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2432 [17:52] <VoxelHead> Dark: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#2433 [17:53] <Dark> ok you caught me
#2434 [17:53] <Dark> i was using a snapshot /.-
#2435 [17:53] <Dark> but can i still fix it?
#2436 [17:54] <Boreeas> Well, that looks like an internal program error, so seeing if it works with a clean installation is the first step
#2437 [17:54] <Boreeas> Try if it works with the current version, and if it does, try if it works with a clean install of the snapshot
#2438 [17:54] <Dark> but ok what if i have potatoes and carrots planted what if i go back D:
#2439 [17:54] <lutzee> Btw, Dark changing your nickname will not hide who you are.
#2440 [17:55] <Dark> omg XD
#2441 [17:55] <Dark> sorry lutzee its just you wouldn't help me! im (relucero)
#2442 [17:55] <Dark> Boreeas
#2443 [17:56] <lutzee> There is nothing from saying i must help you, i'm a volnteer, as are the rest of the people here
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#2446 [17:56] <Dark> my other worlds work just fine though BOREEAS its just this one world doesn't :/ could it be somthing in the world?
#2447 [17:56] <eeBs> 14Anyone know how to install Balkon's weapon mod on a SMP Forge server?01
#2448 [17:56] <Boreeas> eeBs: Would you mind not using color codes
#2449 [17:57] <eeBs> yeah sorry, was a copy paste
#2450 [17:57] <Boreeas> Dark: Are there any new blocks in the snapshot?
#2451 [17:57] <Boreeas> eeBs: In any case, this is not a support channel for modded servers
#2452 [17:57] <Dark> ok let me tell you what happened
#2453 [17:57] <eeBs> is there one? I was directed here from #minecraft
#2454 [17:58] <Dark> I was working on a railroad
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#2456 [17:58] <robb> ;aslkjsdf
#2457 [17:58] <Dark> and when i placed down the minecart (for the first time) it crashed, could it be the minecart?
#2458 [17:58] <Boreeas> eeBs: Try #forge
#2459 [17:58] <eeBs> ty
#2460 [17:59] <Boreeas> eeBs: IF that doesn'T work, check the forge website
#2461 [17:59] <eeBs> i've been googling for hours
#2462 [17:59] <eeBs> but thank you =)
#2463 [17:59] <robb> after downloading the mindcraft.exe I get a Java virtaul machine error
#2464 [18:00] <Dark> IT IS!!!!!!!!
#2465 [18:00] <robb> could not create the Java Virtual Machine
#2466 [18:00] <Boreeas> Dark: Could be. I'm pretty sure its the snapshot. I recommend reverting to the current stable version and not touching the world until the snapshot is made stable
#2467 [18:00] <eeBs> robb: you have java installed?
#2468 [18:00] <Boreeas> robb: Pastebin the exact error to http://pastebin.com please
#2469 [18:00] <Dark> When you place a minecart on rails it crashes the world
#2470 [18:00] <Dark> and does not let you enter it or else it crashes
#2471 [18:00] <robb> I just went and unistalled and then installed the latest
#2472 [18:01] <Boreeas> robb: What version number does the latest have for you?
#2473 [18:01] <Dark> its the minecart what do i do now?
#2474 [18:01] <Boreeas> Dark: Revert to the current stable version and don't touch the world until the snapshot is made stable
#2475 [18:02] <Dark> :'( i can't play my world till halloween???? D:
#2476 [18:02] <Dark> where can i report this error so that it can be fixed in the next snapshot?
#2477 [18:02] <robb> ersion 7 Update 7
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#2479 [18:03] <robb> Boreeas I don't know how to do that
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#2481 [18:04] <Dark> where can i report this major error?
#2482 [18:04] <Boreeas> Dark: I don't think there is an official bugtracker. Maybe check http://help.mojang.com or the forums
#2483 [18:04] <Boreeas> robb: Don't know how to do what?
#2484 [18:05] <robb> paste the error
#2485 [18:05] <Dark> yeah but who makes the snapshots?
#2486 [18:05] <Dark> so i can tell them
#2487 [18:05] <robb> into pastebin
#2488 [18:05] <Dark> and then maybe they will fix it on the next snapshot
#2489 [18:06] <robb> do you want a snapshot, it doesn't have a number
#2490 [18:07] <Boreeas> Dark: Mojang makes them
#2491 [18:08] <robb> eebs does that version 7 Update 7 of java work?
#2492 [18:08] <eeBs> working ok for me
#2493 [18:08] <eeBs> working ok for me
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#2495 [18:09] <Dark> and who is the leader of mojang? notch?
#2496 [18:09] <Boreeas> Dark: Technically yes, but he isn't working on Minecraft anymore
#2497 [18:09] <Dark> D: i didn't know that ://////
#2498 [18:09] <lutzee> Notch owns the company, Carl Manneh is CEO
#2499 [18:09] <Dark> Who works on it?
#2500 [18:09] <Boreeas> In any case, there is no official way to tell them of bugs that I know of.
#2501 [18:10] <Boreeas> jeb and some others
#2502 [18:10] <Dark> imma message them through twitter XD
#2503 [18:10] <Boreeas> Sounds good
#2504 [18:10] <Dark> lol
#2505 [18:10] <lutzee> minecraftwiki.net/wiki/issues is as close to it, DinnerBone keeps his eye on it
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#2508 [18:11] <DarkMystix> How do I report a person??
#2509 [18:12] <FLHerne> DarkMystix: For what?
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#2511 [18:13] <DarkMystix> My son was on the free clasic mincraft and some people on strange server were being
#2512 [18:13] <DarkMystix> very aggressive
#2513 [18:13] <DarkMystix> and cussing at him
#2514 [18:13] <lutzee> Then you wnt to wait for an admin on the server to appear
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#2516 [18:13] <DarkMystix> oh the admin was doing it as well
#2517 [18:13] <CrafterWithAMind> Can someone help me?
#2518 [18:13] <lutzee> The servers are not controlled by Mojang, and mojang has no way of controlling them
#2519 [18:13] <Nutmonk3y52> 6hi guys, I'm really desperate : if somebody could help me set up a modded minecraft server so a pal and I could do some lanning together would be great
#2520 [18:14] <Boreeas> Nutmonk3y52: Would you please not use color codes
#2521 [18:14] <Nutmonk3y52> whoops sorry
#2522 [18:14] <Boreeas> CrafterWithAMind: Ask your question, and then we tell you if we can help
#2523 [18:14] <CrafterWithAMind> I am completely incapable of joining any multiplayer servers for some reason
#2524 [18:14] <DarkMystix> well they need to be able to because this is unacceptable
#2525 [18:14] <Boreeas> Nutmonk3y52: In any case, this is not a support channel for modded servers
#2526 [18:14] <Boreeas> DarkMystix: Your son should switch servers
#2527 [18:15] <CrafterWithAMind> The message that comes up every time is something connect
#2528 [18:15] <Boreeas> DarkMystix: Servers are all privately run, and as such, Mojang has neither the right nor the ability to control what happens there
#2529 [18:15] <DarkMystix> They just now banned him so i guess that iis taken care of
#2530 [18:15] <DarkMystix> :/
#2531 [18:15] <CrafterWithAMind> Connection Refused: Connect
#2532 [18:15] <Boreeas> There are plenty of kids-friendly servers out there, though
#2533 [18:15] <Nutmonk3y52> @Boreeas OK thanks anyways
#2534 [18:16] <FLHerne> DarkMystix: If you don't like a server or its users, don't connect to that server ;-)
#2535 [18:16] <DarkMystix> can you suggest a couple?
#2536 [18:16] <CrafterWithAMind> mcmegaworld.com
#2537 [18:16] <CrafterWithAMind> type that in
#2538 [18:16] <Boreeas> ??> DarkMystix smp/servers
#2539 [18:16] <VoxelHead> DarkMystix: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2540 [18:16] <CrafterWithAMind> Admins are very nice
#2541 [18:16] <VoxelHead> DarkMystix: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#2542 [18:16] <Boreeas> DarkMystix: Check out those links
#2543 [18:16] <Boreeas> Most servers targeted at kids will probably be marked as such
#2544 [18:16] <Boreeas> Most servers targeted at kids will probably be marked as such
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#2546 [18:17] <CrafterWithAMind> So, is there any way my case can be solved?
#2547 [18:17] <eeBs> DarkMystix: The safest bet as always though, is to run your own server for him.
#2548 [18:17] <DarkMystix> i am going to paste those down for him
#2549 [18:18] <CrafterWithAMind> No way I can connect to multiplayer servers ever again, eh?
#2550 [18:19] <DarkMystix> how do I make a server??
#2551 [18:19] <FLHerne> eeBs: How is that a good idea?
#2552 [18:20] <FLHerne> Then either you have no players, or you have to act as admin anyway :P
#2553 [18:20] <Boreeas> DarkMystix: Depends on how open you want it, and how much money you are willing to pay
#2554 [18:20] <eeBs> FLHerne: Cause if he's playing by himself, no one will be there to cuss at him, or teach him how to handle real world situations
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#2556 [18:20] <eeBs> DarkMystix: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2557 [18:20] <FLHerne> eeBs: But then you don't need a server :P
#2558 [18:20] <eeBs> Yep
#2559 [18:20] <FLHerne> That would be SSP with complications :P
#2560 [18:20] <eeBs> He could always invite his friends
#2561 [18:20] <eeBs> and what not
#2562 [18:21] <eeBs> =\
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#2564 [18:21] <Boreeas> DarkMystix: In any case, it is probably easier for you and your son to just play on an already existing server
#2565 [18:21] <FLHerne> Fair enough. My TEkkit server runs on that basis :-)
#2566 [18:21] <DarkMystix> i just gave him a talk about people and how not to get the bad attention from them
#2567 [18:21] <DarkMystix> well, thanks! ;)
#2568 [18:21] <FLHerne> Except that friends-of-friends, and friends-of-friends-of-friends tend to join too :P
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#2570 [18:22] <FLHerne> And then my computer proves that it's too slow and hangs :P
#2571 [18:22] <Dark> there i tweeted jeb and notch
#2572 [18:22] <Dark> which one has more authority on minecraft jeb right?
#2573 [18:23] <ShaRose> notch isn't workong in MC anymore
#2574 [18:23] <eeBs> Pretty sure the chances of getting through to them via twitter are 1 in a billion
#2575 [18:23] <eeBs> but good luck!
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#2584 [18:37] <Oxymoron> I'm trying to install Minecraft on another computer. Problem is, I get the "Minecraft is broken" error when launching it. I've tried redownloading it several times. It hasn't worked.
#2585 [18:37] <NinjaKirby> It wouldn't happen to be a Mac would it?
#2586 [18:38] <Oxymoron> Yes.
#2587 [18:38] <NinjaKirby> Ooooooh yeeees
#2588 [18:38] <Oxymoron> I've installed it on a Mac before without problems.
#2589 [18:38] <NinjaKirby> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#2590 [18:38] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Apple has recently added new security to recent versiona of OS X which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#2591 [18:38] <NinjaKirby> I think it's a corrupt message you see? I believe the above remedies it
#2592 [18:38] <lutzee> Oxymoron: i asume this was an older mac with an older version of SOX?
#2593 [18:38] <lutzee> OSX*
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#2595 [18:38] <Eddie> RED SOX
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#2597 [18:39] <NightWind> Hello!
#2598 [18:39] <Oxymoron> Oh, yeah, that new feature with Mountain Lion. I remember now.
#2599 [18:39] <NightWind> :D
#2600 [18:39] <NightWind> Oh, I got to this IRC from TerraFirmaCraft,
#2601 [18:39] <NightWind> Is this it's specialized IRC?
#2602 [18:39] <NightWind> Or just a general one?
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#2604 [18:39] <Oxymoron> The other computer was running Lion.
#2605 [18:39] <lutzee> NightWind: this is the Main Vanilla support channel.
#2606 [18:39] <NinjaKirby> You are in the most specialist, precisely formed channel for Vanilla Minecraft assistance you have ever laid your keyboard uponst.
#2607 [18:39] <NightWind> Shit.
#2608 [18:40] <Oxymoron> That makes sense. I guess it's pretty easy to disable GateKeeper.
#2609 [18:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> NightWind: you know it ;)
#2610 [18:40] <NightWind> I gotta find some help with TerraFirmaCraft, So I'll look elsewhere
#2611 [18:40] <NightWind> Thanks though
#2612 [18:40] <lutzee> do /join #tfcraft to get to the terrafirmacraft channel
#2613 [18:40] <Oxymoron> I'm doing that now.
#2614 [18:40] <NightWind> Bye :)
#2615 [18:40] <NightWind> Oh
#2616 [18:40] <NightWind> Thanks
#2617 [18:40] <NightWind> Thanks
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#2619 [18:40] <NinjaKirby> Apparently disabling Gatekeeper means disabling IRC Clients.
#2620 [18:41] <NinjaKirby> Or he just quit semi-unexpectedly.
#2621 [18:41] <NinjaKirby> ??> NinjaKirby only/you
#2622 [18:41] <VoxelHead> NinjaKirby: (only/you) Moved to irc/multitasking
#2623 [18:42] <NinjaKirby> lolwat, Only yoooou, can make.. this WORLD seem bright~
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#2626 [18:46] <Smela2494> Hello
#2627 [18:46] <Smela2494> I am having an issue while playing the game. After 5 minutes or so, the game will crash and a bubble in the bottom corner of the screen will say "The Display driver has stopped responding and has recovered."
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#2629 [18:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> Smela2494: update your drivers
#2630 [18:47] <Smela2494> Done
#2631 [18:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> graphics drivers that is
#2632 [18:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> er
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#2634 [18:48] <Smela2494> It only works when I login through Ubuntu
#2635 [18:48] <Smela2494> But I don't want to do that anymore.
#2636 [18:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> Smela2494: uninstall and purge the drivers then install latest ones
#2637 [18:49] <Smela2494> I've done everything
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#2640 [18:49] <Smela2494> The latest one doesn't work, and the standard one doesn't work.
#2641 [18:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> Smela2494: did you actually uninstall and purge hte old ones?
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#2643 [18:52] <Smela2494> Installing the new one won't completely fix it?
#2644 [18:52] <Smela2494> Or change it
#2645 [18:52] <Smela2494> I actually HAVE to uninstall the old one
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#2648 [18:55] <geofiz00> i need halp
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#2650 [18:55] <DiskDaemon> The word is spelled help instead of halp. (help provided).
#2651 [18:56] <hi> how do i get mods?
#2652 [18:56] <DiskDaemon> hi: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/51-minecraft-mods/
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#2654 [18:56] <hi> i am premium but when i got to put in a mod it wont work
#2655 [18:57] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#2656 [18:57] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2657 [18:57] <lutzee> hi: You probably aren't following the install instructions,
#2658 [18:57] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2659 [18:57] <hi> FORGET IT U PPL SINk
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#2661 [18:57] * lutzee sinks
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#2662 [18:57] <lutzee> That was kind of fun
#2663 [18:58] * NinjaKirby SINk's too
#2663 [18:58] * lutzee sinks again
#2663 [18:58] <NinjaKirby> What even just happened.
#2664 [18:58] <DiskDaemon> I think someone just flipped table
#2665 [18:58] <NinjaKirby> That reminds me of that Hiroshi Abe movie.
#2666 [19:00] <NinjaKirby> www.youtube.com/watch?v=dab58D0mEsA He keeps flipping the table, just can't stop it.
#2667 [19:00] <Dark> hye i have no idea how to report an issue to minecraft wiki
#2668 [19:01] <DiskDaemon> Dark: Which issue?
#2669 [19:01] <Dark> hye i have no idea how to eporiashdfl;asdjl;asjd;lskjfa;lkjadfljahda
#2670 [19:01] <Dark> ;ldfkjas;dflkja
#2671 [19:01] <Dark> fdald;aj
#2672 [19:01] <Dark> dfdajla
#2673 [19:02] <NinjaKirby> I wouldn't even know where to start either, looks complicated.
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#2675 [19:02] <lutzee> He was here earlier, had a crash with a snapshot
#2676 [19:02] <lutzee> Infact i had seen the error before
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#2678 [19:03] <lutzee> Unfornunately i don't have the deobfuscated class names for the snapshot, so i can't diagnose the stacktrace
#2679 [19:04] <DiskDaemon> You can /msg mcpbot for info though
#2680 [19:04] <lutzee> DiskDaemon: snapshot.
#2681 [19:04] <DiskDaemon> Oh, well that's easy to resolve. We don't provide snapshot support here :)
#2682 [19:05] <lutzee> Thats what i told him earlier ;)
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#2687 [19:09] <geofiz00> i had paaid for my minecraft and it isnt working
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#2689 [19:10] <geofiz00> i waited a week fo rmy premium account it didnt work
#2690 [19:10] <geofiz00> HELLO?!?!?
#2691 [19:11] <Raphy963> Sorry, we are not robot
#2692 [19:11] <lutzee> geofiz00: what doesn't work, do you get an error?
#2693 [19:11] <geofiz00> no
#2694 [19:11] <geofiz00> i dont have my premium status
#2695 [19:11] <lutzee> Explain what you are experiancing.
#2696 [19:11] <lutzee> Right
#2697 [19:11] <geofiz00> i have talked to another minecraft client before and they were very rude to me
#2698 [19:11] <lutzee> How did you pay for the game?
#2699 [19:11] <geofiz00> credit card visa
#2700 [19:12] <lutzee> Has the money been debited to your bank account?
#2701 [19:12] <geofiz00> yes
#2702 [19:12] <geofiz00> i got an email saying it did
#2703 [19:12] <geofiz00> money stealers.
#2704 [19:12] <lutzee> Where did you purchase the game on?
#2705 [19:12] <geofiz00> minecraft.net
#2706 [19:12] <lutzee> hmm, what is your account name?
#2707 [19:13] <geofiz00> geofiz00
#2708 [19:13] <lutzee> !paid geofiz00
#2709 [19:13] <lutzee> ;haspaid geofiz00
#2710 [19:13] <WugBot> geofiz00 has NOT paid for minecraft.
#2711 [19:13] <lutzee> hmm odd
#2712 [19:13] <Raphy963> lol
#2713 [19:13] <geofiz00> i did pay!
#2714 [19:14] <Raphy963> Nice try
#2715 [19:14] <geofiz00> ?
#2716 [19:14] <geofiz00> nice try?
#2717 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: Are you from America?
#2718 [19:14] <geofiz00> LISTEN I WAITED A WEEK FOR MY MINECRAFT TO WORK AND YOU GAVE ME NOTHING I EITHER WANT A REFUND OR YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM MY LAWYER
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#2720 [19:14] <lutzee> geofiz00: in the email you recieved there should be a transaction ID, submit a support ticket here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new and include the transaction ID
#2721 [19:15] <geofiz00> and yes i am
#2722 [19:15] <geofiz00> \I ALREADY SENT ONE 3 DAYS AGO
#2723 [19:15] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: COmmonly american banks block ipayments to international locations, as a security measure. Please contact your bank to find out why your attempted payment didn't go through.
#2724 [19:15] <Raphy963> FIRST CAPS OFF
#2725 [19:15] <geofiz00> I HAVENT GOTTEN A REPLY
#2726 [19:15] <geofiz00> DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO
#2727 [19:15] <geofiz00> I AM PISSED
#2728 [19:15] <Raphy963> Calm down =_=
#2729 [19:15] <Raphy963> I'm pissed too and i'm pissing off people on IRC?
#2730 [19:15] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: Please don't take your anger out on the volunteers in this channel who are attempting to help you
#2731 [19:15] <geofiz00> *breath in, breathe out*
#2732 [19:15] <lutzee> geofiz00: Loose the caps or i shall remove you from this establishment.
#2733 [19:16] <geofiz00> sorry sorry
#2734 [19:16] <geofiz00> im a little angry thats all
#2735 [19:16] <Raphy963> They have a 2 weeks delay marc said yesterday
#2736 [19:16] <geofiz00> is there anyway i can fix this?!?
#2737 [19:16] <lutzee> geofiz00: then you will probably want to read this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#2738 [19:16] <geofiz00> i waited a week already
#2739 [19:16] <Raphy963> No, MOjang have to fix it you can't do anything except wait
#2740 [19:16] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: There is - contact your bank to find out why the attempted transaction failed
#2741 [19:16] <geofiz00> i did already they said the transaction went through
#2742 [19:17] <Raphy963> So this is a Mojang problem
#2743 [19:17] <lutzee> Raphy963: this is a moneybookers problem.
#2744 [19:17] <geofiz00> ?
#2745 [19:17] <Raphy963> So this is a Moneybookers problem
#2746 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: You will then be able to get your transaction id from moneybookers, as proof of payment
#2747 [19:17] <geofiz00> really?
#2748 [19:17] <geofiz00> ok i will get it now
#2749 [19:17] <geofiz00> i got an email with it
#2750 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: With that transaction id, you can contact monajg via the HERE link on that article
#2751 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> *mojang
#2752 [19:18] <Raphy963> They will answer you shortlyi think
#2753 [19:18] <geofiz00> i did already and its been already 3 days
#2754 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> If it's a receipt id in the email, then that won't be of any use for you. It has to be the transaction id instead.
#2755 [19:19] <lutzee> As of yesterday they are 11 days behind on the emails, can probably shave a couple of days off that by the end of today
#2756 [19:19] <geofiz00> it is a transaction id
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#2758 [19:19] <Raphy963> They want to have 1-2 days delay
#2759 [19:19] <Raphy963> So you have to be patient
#2760 [19:19] <geofiz00> but its been 7 days!
#2761 [19:19] <Raphy963> Last week it was more longer
#2762 [19:19] <geofiz00> 8 actually
#2763 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> Emails from September 22 are currently being processed - Mojang are catching up though
#2764 [19:20] <lutzee> geofiz00: they will get to your email, be patient, as of 2 weeks ago they were about 2 months behind on emails.
#2765 [19:20] <geofiz00> still hwy havent i gotten my premium status?
#2766 [19:20] <geofiz00> brb getting transaction id
#2767 [19:20] <lutzee> Because somewhere in the system an error has occured.
#2768 [19:20] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: We are volunteers with no access to that kind of information
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#2770 [19:21] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: The people in this channel who volunteer their time to help - none of them are paid for or work for Mojang
#2771 [19:21] <Raphy963> (except Marc)
#2772 [19:21] <geofiz00> i know i was invited to volunteer
#2773 [19:21] <geofiz00> i said no
#2774 [19:21] <DiskDaemon> Raphy963: He's not here, is he? :)
#2775 [19:21] <Raphy963> No he's not here
#2776 [19:22] <Raphy963> "Dear Notch, can i have premium status, thanks bye"
#2777 [19:22] <Raphy963> They surely have ticket like this
#2778 [19:22] <geofiz00> >:l dont mock me
#2779 [19:22] <lutzee> Raphy963: they do, and ones about herobrine
#2780 [19:22] <Raphy963> WHO THE FUCK IS HEROBRINE
#2781 [19:22] * AuBot kicked Raphy963 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aphy963 :Please keep it civil.)
#2782 [19:22] <geofiz00> OH! question
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#2784 [19:22] <Raphy963> :S
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#2786 [19:22] <Raphy963> who the hug is herobrine*
#2787 [19:22] <geofiz00> how do you get mods without premium?
#2788 [19:22] <lutzee> hmm wugbot does google?
#2789 [19:22] <lutzee> ;g herobrine
#2790 [19:23] <DiskDaemon> herobribe is a meme - nothing more
#2791 [19:23] <lutzee> meh
#2792 [19:23] <geofiz00> or do you know any servers that have herobrine in it?
#2793 [19:23] <Raphy963> Ehhhh google time
#2794 [19:23] <geofiz00> do you know any servers?!
#2795 [19:23] <Raphy963> Ohhhh so this is Steve with white eye
#2796 [19:23] <Raphy963> Herobrinecraft
#2797 [19:24] <geofiz00> thats a server?
#2798 [19:24] <Raphy963> Idk
#2799 [19:24] <geofiz00> -_-
#2800 [19:24] <geofiz00> HELP
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#2802 [19:24] <geofiz00> so what server has herobrine?!
#2803 [19:25] <NinjaKirby> inb4 sparm
#2804 [19:25] <Raphy963> I dunno
#2805 [19:25] <geofiz00> geofiz00 Order 9a2ff9fbd8424fecb40d0995a76a4e85
#2806 [19:25] <geofiz00> thats my transaction id
#2807 [19:25] <Raphy963> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clElrb1mBmw
#2808 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: Please don't publically display your transaction id. Now anyone who's in this channel is capable of pretending to be you and deman changes to your account
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#2810 [19:26] <Raphy963> Congratulation!
#2811 [19:26] <geofiz00> ^-^ oops
#2812 [19:26] <lutzee> DiskDaemon: thats only a UUID, they will probably ask for an email on top of it
#2813 [19:27] <geofiz00> ....
#2814 [19:27] <lutzee> also it says under that section "If after a few hours you have only this number and do not have a transaction ID, your purchase was most likely unsuccessful, and you can try your payment again."
#2815 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> This article makes things clear http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
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#2817 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: That was an order number - not your transaction id
#2818 [19:27] <geofiz00> it is?
#2819 [19:27] <geofiz00> okay let me check again
#2820 [19:28] <Raphy963> HErobrine
#2821 [19:28] <Raphy963> Sheep
#2822 [19:29] <geofiz00> i dont see it
#2823 [19:29] <geofiz00> thats all i got
#2824 [19:29] <geofiz00> WHAT KIND OF naME IS BERKJERKY?!
#2825 [19:29] <berkjerky> my cousins nick name for beef jerky
#2826 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: Please confirm with moneybookers about your payment. Mojang put you through to moneybookers when you attempt to make your payment (that's the white background part)
#2827 [19:30] <geofiz00> i know that, i already did
#2828 [19:30] <Raphy963> g2g bye
#2829 [19:30] <geofiz00> I CHECKED EVERYTHING! ITS BEEN A WEK! I HAVE BEEN PATIENT ! I EMAILED MOJANG LIKE 10 TIMES! ALL I CAME FOR WAS MY PREMIUM ACCOUNT!
#2830 [19:30] <geofiz00> *WEEK
#2831 [19:30] <geofiz00> BYE
#2832 [19:31] <Raphy963> Calm down and come at me bro
#2833 [19:31] <geofiz00> ?
#2834 [19:31] <geofiz00> i siad bye
#2835 [19:31] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: Mojang porovide your premium account when moneybookers tell them that the payment went through
#2836 [19:31] <Raphy963> fuck yeah - Leave like a boss
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#2838 [19:31] <geofiz00> i did already
#2839 [19:31] <lutzee> geofiz00: Please do not shout, we are trying to help here.
#2840 [19:32] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: We here cannot help you. We have provided you information on the best way you can get help.
#2841 [19:32] <DiskDaemon> geofiz00: Is there anything else we can help you with?
#2842 [19:32] <geofiz00> yes
#2843 [19:32] <geofiz00> any servers with herobrine?
#2844 [19:32] <DiskDaemon> not that I know of
#2845 [19:32] <geofiz00> :
#2846 [19:32] <geofiz00> none?
#2847 [19:32] <DiskDaemon> nope
#2848 [19:32] <lutzee> geofiz00: look on google, there are many thousands of servers running.
#2849 [19:32] <geofiz00> okay thankyou
#2850 [19:33] <geofiz00> hopefully i will get in touch with mojang
#2851 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> My ignorance of herobrine is vast :)
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#2853 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> Of his existence, that is
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#2855 [19:34] <lutzee> When someone botheres making a mod with the full AI for herobrine as explained in the original meme i will care, until then, meh
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#2858 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> lutzee: there is one; it's called Slender. But it ended up being its own game.
#2859 [19:38] <lutzee> hehe
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#2861 [19:40] <hgcnhgb> when i try to play mine craft it always crashes when i press the letter E
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#2863 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> hgcnhgb: Is this on a clean install, or are there mods involved?
#2864 [19:41] <hgcnhgb> i tried downloading a mod
#2865 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> hgcnhgb: Our way of providing support for mod-based issues is to remove them completely
#2866 [19:42] <lutzee> hgcnhgb: the mod is probably a buggy version.
#2867 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> ??> hgcnhgb forceupdate
#2868 [19:42] <VoxelHead> hgcnhgb: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2869 [19:42] <VoxelHead> hgcnhgb: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2870 [19:42] <hgcnhgb> will this work for a mac
#2871 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> yes
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#2874 [19:43] <zeke> i need help joining a minecraft server
#2875 [19:44] <zeke> for multipayer
#2876 [19:44] <hgcnhgb> how do you forceupdate
#2877 [19:44] <lutzee> hgcnhgb: VoxelHead has explained exactly
#2878 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> hgcnhgb: The instructions are provided by VoxelHead: Are you having trouble following those instruction?
#2879 [19:44] <zeke> when u sign in hit options then forcwe update
#2880 [19:45] <hgcnhgb> ok thank you
#2881 [19:45] <zeke> your welcome
#2882 [19:45] <zeke> when i try to join a minecraft server it sais scanning for lan world but no worlds come up
#2883 [19:46] <lutzee> ??> zeke smp/servers
#2884 [19:46] <VoxelHead> zeke: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2885 [19:46] <VoxelHead> zeke: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#2886 [19:46] <lutzee> zeke: you have to add servers to the list yourself
#2887 [19:46] <zeke> i tried
#2888 [19:46] <zeke> plus how do u start the survival games
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#2891 [19:48] <zeke> i clicke on the site and whats it supposed tomdo
#2892 [19:48] <zeke> to do
#2893 [19:51] <hgcnhgb> were is opsin
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#2895 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> ??> hgcnhgb forceupdate
#2896 [19:52] <VoxelHead> hgcnhgb: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2897 [19:52] <VoxelHead> hgcnhgb: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2898 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> hgcnhgb: "press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button)"
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#2915 [20:31] <shemy999> I cannot download the minecraft to get it to work. I keep getting a "Cannot Create JAVA Virtual Machine" error. I have updated JAVA to the latest version. Still does not work
#2916 [20:31] <shemy999> Can anyone help
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#2918 [20:34] <CrafterWithAMind> I need help connecting to multiplayer server
#2919 [20:35] <hdcool09__> CrafterWithAMind,
#2920 [20:35] <hdcool09__> what is the problem?
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#2923 [20:36] <CrafterWithAMind> For about a week now, I have been getting error messages
#2924 [20:36] <CrafterWithAMind> whenever I try to join one
#2925 [20:36] <hdcool09> What is the error message?
#2926 [20:36] <CrafterWithAMind> Let me try to get the exact thing that keeps coming up
#2927 [20:36] <CrafterWithAMind> connection refused: Connect
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#2929 [20:37] <nickles> is the 26 dollar fee a one time only payment?
#2930 [20:37] <DiskDaemon> yes
#2931 [20:37] <hdcool09> ok CrafterWithAMind
#2932 [20:37] <hdcool09> try to test join
#2933 [20:37] <hdcool09> mc.ecocitycraft.com
#2934 [20:38] <nickles> and can i have more than one person on my account?
#2935 [20:38] <nickles> as in avatars
#2936 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> It's one account per person
#2937 [20:38] <CrafterWithAMind> I joined
#2938 [20:38] <hdcool09> and it worked?
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#2940 [20:38] <CrafterWithAMind> I guess it is just my server and the one I play on very often
#2941 [20:39] <hdcool09> It sounds like the server(s) you are trying to connect to are having problems, We can not really fix it
#2942 [20:39] <nickles> both my son and daughter want to play (not at the same time) can i save different worlds so they can both have their own separate space in minecraft?
#2943 [20:39] <hdcool09> you can, however contact the server admin and tell him the errors you are getting
#2944 [20:39] <CrafterWithAMind> Can you please try to join mcmegaworld.com and ask for Zach to look at the fourms?
#2945 [20:39] <hdcool09> Sorry but no
#2946 [20:39] <CrafterWithAMind> The admin has been lazy
#2947 [20:39] <CrafterWithAMind> No joining fourms to look at stuff
#2948 [20:40] <nickles> so to clarify, one world only?
#2949 [20:40] <hdcool09> nickles,
#2950 [20:40] <CrafterWithAMind> My server and one other
#2951 [20:40] <hdcool09> is this on the same computer?
#2952 [20:40] <nickles> yeh
#2953 [20:40] <hdcool09> You can have more than one world
#2954 [20:41] <nickles> great, thank you :)
#2955 [20:41] <hdcool09> no problem :)
#2956 [20:41] <hdcool09> CrafterWithAMind, Is this a bukkit server?
#2957 [20:41] <CrafterWithAMind> No plugins
#2958 [20:41] <hdcool09> but it is bukkit?
#2959 [20:41] <CrafterWithAMind> Nope
#2960 [20:41] <hdcool09> ah
#2961 [20:41] <CrafterWithAMind> Bukkit means mods on the server, right?
#2962 [20:42] <hdcool09> Basicly, yes
#2963 [20:42] <hdcool09> Basically*
#2964 [20:42] <CrafterWithAMind> I don't mean the people that can access creative and what not
#2965 [20:42] <hdcool09> What is the error you are getting in the console when you try to connect?
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#2967 [20:42] <CrafterWithAMind> Connection Refused: Connect
#2968 [20:43] <CrafterWithAMind> Let me try this on another computer
#2969 [20:43] <hdcool09> You are getting that in the server's console?
#2970 [20:43] <CrafterWithAMind> What exactly is a console?
#2971 [20:43] <hdcool09> The window your server is running in
#2972 [20:43] <hdcool09> http://i51.tinypic.com/2a2mnm.png
#2973 [20:43] <CrafterWithAMind> Ah
#2974 [20:44] <CrafterWithAMind> Yes, that is what I am getting
#2975 [20:44] <hdcool09> what are you useing to connect?
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#2977 [20:44] <CrafterWithAMind> I type in the direct connect mcmegaworld.com
#2978 [20:45] <CrafterWithAMind> just like any other server
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#2980 [20:45] <hdcool09> mcmegaworld.com for your home server?
#2981 [20:45] <kossskid> anyone know how to fix the problem where after its done loading at login it stays on the white mojang screen?
#2982 [20:45] <CrafterWithAMind> What do you mean home server?
#2983 [20:45] <hdcool09> You are hosting a server on your computer correct?
#2984 [20:45] <CrafterWithAMind> Yeah, but that never worked
#2985 [20:46] <hdcool09> oh
#2986 [20:46] <CrafterWithAMind> I am worried about one I am more active on
#2987 [20:46] <hdcool09> Well it sounds like the mcmegaworld server is just having problems
#2988 [20:46] <CrafterWithAMind> So you can't test it on your computer to see if it works?
#2989 [20:46] <kossskid> anyone know how to fix the problem where after its done loading at login it stays on the white mojang screen?
#2990 [20:46] <CrafterWithAMind> try force update
#2991 [20:46] <hdcool09> I have an error on that server aswell
#2992 [20:47] <CrafterWithAMind> Good
#2993 [20:47] <CrafterWithAMind> I will PM Zach on the fourms
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#2995 [20:47] <CrafterWithAMind> Hopefully he joins some time soon
#2996 [20:47] <hdcool09> Ok
#2997 [20:47] <hdcool09> Good luck
#2998 [20:47] <CrafterWithAMind> Singleplayer is boring
#2999 [20:47] <CrafterWithAMind> too easy and too tempting to use TMI
#3000 [20:47] <CrafterWithAMind> You know something is wrong when you have an army of iron golems
#3001 [20:47] <kossskid> i tried that and also deleting the bin folder. Im wondering if at this point i should call apple because its been about a week that this has been happening
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#3003 [20:48] <CrafterWithAMind> Apple is junk
#3004 [20:48] <CrafterWithAMind> get windows
#3005 [20:48] <CrafterWithAMind> or whatever it is called
#3006 [20:48] <CrafterWithAMind> Apple is just complicated junk
#3007 [20:48] <hdcool09> kossskid,
#3008 [20:48] <CrafterWithAMind> anything other than apple
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#3010 [20:48] <hdcool09> kossskid, Try to force update
#3011 [20:48] <kossskid> ik I'm saving obey to build a pc but for now I'm stuck with a mac
#3012 [20:49] <kossskid> *saving money
#3013 [20:49] <hdcool09> Do you know how to force update your minecraft?
#3014 [20:49] <kossskid> yes i tried that but i still gt stuck after done loading
#3015 [20:50] <hdcool09> Not sure what is the problem here
#3016 [20:50] <hdcool09> Do you have the latest drivers?
#3017 [20:50] <hdcool09> for your GPU
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#3019 [20:51] <kossskid> ill check right now
#3020 [20:51] <hdcool09> Allright
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#3022 [20:52] <kossskid> yea every things updated do you think it would be worth calling apple?
#3023 [20:52] <hdcool09> I am pretty sure apple can not help
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#3025 [20:53] <hdcool09> You can wait here untill someone with more knowledge about this problem is around
#3026 [20:53] <kossskid> alright i guess ill keep searching
#3027 [20:53] <hdcool09> Just keep asking every 10 minutes or so
#3028 [20:53] <kossskid> ok
#3029 [20:53] <Nyarrty> I just got a new macbook pro, and I purchased minecraft on my old computer. How do I get Minecraft onto my new computer?
#3030 [20:53] <hdcool09> Nyarrty,
#3031 [20:54] <hdcool09> You can download minecraft
#3032 [20:54] <hdcool09> from minecraft.net
#3033 [20:54] <kossskid> log into your account on mine craft then download it
#3034 [20:54] <Nyarrty> I have tried, it keeps saying Minecraft is damage, send it to trash
#3035 [20:54] <DiskDaemon> It is the minecraft.exe launcher that you download, which after you login will download the game for you to play
#3036 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> Nyarrty: On a mac?
#3037 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> ??> Nyarrty mac/gatekeeper
#3038 [20:55] <VoxelHead> Nyarrty: (mac/gatekeeper) Apple has recently added new security to recent versiona of OS X which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#3039 [20:55] <hdcool09> Nyarrty,
#3040 [20:55] <hdcool09> use this
#3041 [20:55] <hdcool09> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip
#3042 [20:56] <Nyarrty> thank you diskdaemon
#3043 [20:56] <Nyarrty> it worked
#3044 [20:56] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#3045 [20:57] <hdcool09> DiskDaemon, have any clue about kossskid's problem?
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#3047 [20:57] <hdcool09> <kossskid> anyone know how to fix the problem where after its done loading at login it stays on the white mojang screen?
#3048 [20:59] <DiskDaemon> A crash report might provide some answers http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Mac_OSX
#3049 [20:59] <kossskid> ok ill check it out
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#3061 [21:32] <sniperpreist67> why wont my minecraft game wont open?????
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#3063 [21:33] <crazilon> Hello. Are the mp-login servers down?
#3064 [21:33] <lutzee> crazilon: they seem healthy acording to help.ojang.com
#3065 [21:33] <crazilon> Ok
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#3067 [21:34] <sniperpreist67> why wont my minecraft game open
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#3069 [21:34] <sniperpreist67> ????????
#3070 [21:34] <lutzee> sniperpreist67: some details about what occurs is useful "It doesn't work" is extreamly vague
#3071 [21:36] <sniperpreist67> everytime i try to open it it says Error: could not create the java virtual machine Error: A fatal error exeption has occured, program will exit
#3072 [21:37] <sniperpreist67> plzzzzz help!!!
#3073 [21:38] <lutzee> Uninstall all versions of java you have installed (to clean out any problems that might be there) then reinstall a fresh copy from http://java.com/
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#3077 [21:48] <sniperpreist67> it still didnt work
#3078 [21:48] <lutzee> ??> sniperpreist67 win/dxdiag
#3079 [21:48] <VoxelHead> sniperpreist67: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3080 [21:48] <VoxelHead> sniperpreist67: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#3083 [21:53] <sniperpreist67> i dont understand
#3084 [21:53] <lutzee> win being the windows key
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#3086 [21:59] <sniperpreist67> the link of the website after pasting and submiting?
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#3088 [22:07] <umbingengott> my server keeps kicking me off it tells me to log in on the minecraft server it told me not enuff memmery in the game
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#3090 [22:07] <Lukario45> what is a mob spawn blocks number?
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#3095 [22:12] <zev> can some one help me?
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#3097 [22:12] <Lukario45> me too
#3098 [22:12] <zev> hello?
#3099 [22:12] <zev> any admins on?
#3100 [22:12] <Lukario45> zev i can try whata up
#3101 [22:13] <zev> i cant log in to minecraft.net!
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#3104 [22:13] <zev> i have java 5.0
#3105 [22:13] <zev> um......... u there?
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#3107 [22:13] <Lukario45> What do u mean by you cant log in?
#3108 [22:14] <zev> when i try to log into minecraft it says 'can not connect to minecraft.net
#3109 [22:14] <umbingengott> ya i can log in but
#3110 [22:14] <zev> u can?!
#3111 [22:15] <Lukario45> Sorry i cant help you with that but i can log in fine
#3112 [22:15] <zev> why cant u help me?
#3113 [22:15] <Lukario45> (i just came here bc i want to know what a spawn blocks number is)
#3114 [22:15] <Lukario45> I thought u need in game help
#3115 [22:15] <zev> o....... ok
#3116 [22:15] <zev> lol
#3117 [22:15] <Lukario45> :3
#3118 [22:15] <zev> who can help me then?
#3119 [22:16] <zev> any one?
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#3121 [22:16] <umbingengott> i get a green square box in the uper left with a green line across the screen
#3122 [22:16] <Lukario45> diskdaemon mabey lutzee
#3123 [22:16] <zev> i can help u!
#3124 [22:16] <zev> on that one
#3125 [22:17] <zev> u have a green box in the uper left of the minecraft screen or your computer screen?
#3126 [22:17] <umbingengott> ya
#3127 [22:17] <zev> ok.....
#3128 [22:18] <zev> um....
#3129 [22:18] <zev> do u have a mac?
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#3132 [22:18] <umbingengott> it looks like a computer bord
#3133 [22:18] <zev> do u have a mac?
#3134 [22:18] <zev> a mac computer?
#3135 [22:18] <umbingengott> windows
#3136 [22:19] <umbingengott> and its moving
#3137 [22:19] <umbingengott> and its moving
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#3140 [22:20] <Brentnauer> Is there a way to place an extended piston?
#3141 [22:20] <zev> ok
#3142 [22:20] <zev> this is what u do
#3143 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> Brentnauer: no - all pistons are placed closed, and open when they are powered
#3144 [22:20] <zev> u go in your back yard smach your computer and go buy a mac
#3145 [22:21] <zev> :)
#3146 [22:21] <zev> dude......... windows SUCK!
#3147 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> zev: That type of attitude is not appreciates here. Please try to be more civil towards people needing help
#3148 [22:22] <zev> jk
#3149 [22:22] <zev> restart your computer
#3150 [22:22] <Lukario45> What number is s spawn block?
#3151 [22:22] <zev> see if that works
#3152 [22:22] <zev> 37
#3153 [22:22] <zev> i think
#3154 [22:22] <Lukario45> 37 ok ill try it
#3155 [22:22] <zev> how old are u guys?
#3156 [22:23] <zev> am 21
#3157 [22:23] <Lukario45> Thats a flower -.-
#3158 [22:23] <zev> lol sorry!
#3159 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> Age is just a number
#3160 [22:23] <Lukario45> :D
#3161 [22:23] <zev> am not sure what number is a spawn block
#3162 [22:23] <zev> how lod are u guys?
#3163 [22:24] <zev> am 21 i play for the boston redsox
#3164 [22:24] <Lukario45> Disk do u know what im talking abt (its the little crate like block with a mob spinning in it)
#3165 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> 38 here - but we don't want everyone filling the channel with their age
#3166 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> Lukario45: A spawner?
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#3168 [22:24] <zev> i play for the boston redsox!
#3169 [22:24] <Lukario45> yes
#3170 [22:24] <Andrio> Lukario45: 52
#3171 [22:24] <zev> i play MLB
#3172 [22:24] <Lukario45> Ok ty
#3173 [22:24] <zev> baseball
#3174 [22:24] <zev> have u had sex?
#3175 [22:25] * hdcool09 [hdcool09@notlogged] has quit. (Ping timeout: 380 seconds)
#3176 [22:25] <zev> it feels sooo goood
#3177 [22:25] <zev> lol
#3178 [22:25] <zev> lk0
#3179 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> zev: Please be more sivil, or you will be kicked out
#3180 [22:25] <zev> lk
#3181 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> civil
#3182 [22:25] <zev> lk
#3183 [22:25] <zev> jk
#3184 [22:25] <zev> g
#3185 [22:25] <zev> g
#3186 [22:25] <zev> g
#3187 [22:25] <zev> g
#3188 [22:25] <zev> g
#3189 [22:25] <zev> g
#3190 [22:25] <Lukario45> Ok ty but how do i make it a different animal Andrio? like a creeper
#3191 [22:25] <zev> hi
#3192 [22:25] <Andrio> Use Single Player Commands
#3193 [22:25] <zev> u there?
#3194 [22:26] <zev> fuck
#3195 [22:26] * AuBot kicked zev from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ev :Please keep it civil.)
#3196 [22:26] <Lukario45> Single player commands?
#3197 [22:26] <Andrio> It's a mod.
#3198 [22:26] <Lukario45> >.< i cant mo9d my server lol
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#3207 [22:59] <bozo97> hey, can someone use teamviewer and setup a server for me
#3208 [23:00] <bozo97> ?
#3209 [23:00] <Wug> now you see, that's not the right attitude at all
#3210 [23:00] <Wug> you should be coming to ask how to do things yourself. not to have others do it for you
#3211 [23:01] <Wug> you don't learn much if all you do is sit on the sidelines
#3212 [23:01] <Wug> :pf
#3213 [23:01] <WugBot> pf: You need to set up port forwarding on your router for people outside of your network to access your Minecraft server. First, find out your public ip address by issuing this command in this channel: ;ip
#3214 [23:01] <WugBot> pf: Then, locate the make and model of your router on this site for detailed instructions: http://goo.gl/DsVIL
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#3217 [23:01] <Wug> bozo97: take a look at that
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#3219 [23:02] <bozo97> i have done all that yesterday but it dosent work
#3220 [23:03] <bozo97> so can someone please see where i have gone wrong and fix it for me
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#3222 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> Reboot the computer in to safe mode + networking, and use www.yougetsignal.com to check that the minecraft server port is open
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#3224 [23:06] <Wug> safe mode is probably unnecessary
#3225 [23:06] <Wug> I suspect you say that because it will disable firewalls
#3226 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> probably, but I've found that it's useful to prevent interference from other potential programs too
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#3228 [23:07] <bozo97> it says port is closed
#3229 [23:07] <Wug> what's your internal ip address? check right now
#3230 [23:08] <bozo97> 192.168.1.2
#3231 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: Am I right to presume that you are typing from that same machine that you're running the minecraft server on?
#3232 [23:08] <bozo97> yes
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#3235 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: I will hold off judgement on things until after you've done what I suggested. Please feel free though to carry on with wug though. He's really very good at this
#3236 [23:10] <bozo97> can he teamview for me
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#3238 [23:11] <DiskDaemon> Nothing useful is learned or achieved when someone does eveything for you
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#3240 [23:11] <Wug> open your router configuration
#3241 [23:11] <bozo97> oh well i have tried so many times
#3242 [23:11] <bozo97> how
#3243 [23:11] <Wug> I thought you did this yesterday
#3244 [23:11] <Wug> do it the same way you did it then
#3245 [23:11] <bozo97> oh yea
#3246 [23:11] <Wug> ;check bozo97
#3247 [23:12] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: CPE-121-217-171-221.lnse2.cht.bigpond.net.au:25565 (Timed out)
#3248 [23:12] <Wug> looks like the port probably isn't forwarded
#3249 [23:12] <Wug> or are you using a nonstandard port
#3250 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> ;check 121.217.171.221
#3251 [23:12] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 121.217.171.221:25565 (Timed out)
#3252 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, wugbot is smarter than I gave it credit for
#3253 [23:12] <bozo97> what
#3254 [23:13] <Wug> bozo97: router settings
#3255 [23:13] <Wug> what have you done with them thus far
#3256 [23:13] <bozo97> yea
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#3259 [23:14] <bozo97> i changed them to what the port forward site said
#3260 [23:14] <bozo97> ?
#3261 [23:15] <bozo97> so what now
#3262 [23:17] <bozo97> ?????
#3263 [23:17] <Wug> ;check bozo97
#3264 [23:17] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: CPE-121-217-171-221.lnse2.cht.bigpond.net.au:25565 (Timed out)
#3265 [23:19] <DiskDaemon> Without needing the server running, the PFPortForward program is a useful one to check if a port is open, and to help diagnose the issue. This version 1.0.39 is known to work without troubles on Windows 7 http://www.2shared.com/file/hAgDvmmf/PFPortChecker1039.html
#3266 [23:22] <Wug> bozo97: I keep getting distracted
#3267 [23:22] <Wug> can you send me a screenshot
#3268 [23:22] <DiskDaemon> inb4 - http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#3269 [23:23] <Wug> we might have a factoid for that
#3270 [23:23] <Wug> ;search scrn
#3271 [23:23] <WugBot> No matches for "scrn".
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#3275 [23:32] <Wug> GreyVulpine: blarg blarg znc.
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#3280 [23:41] <jmmurp2> So I guess I'll just ask away. The big problem is that I can't connect. I downloaded minecraft a while back on my laptop, as well as downloading it on two of the computers in my house for my brother and sister to play on. I could connect to my account on every single computer. Just recently I downloaded a few texture packs and I also had to download MCPatcher. In this whole time I could still connect and play online. I patc
#3281 [23:41] <jmmurp2> And now I can't connect to minecraft.net
#3282 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> jmmurp2: Your text stopped at “I patc”
#3283 [23:42] <jmmurp2> Hmm...weird. Basically I downloaded a few texture packs, patched them with mcpatcher, and now I can't connect to minecraft.net
#3284 [23:42] <jmmurp2> I can connect to it from any other computer, just not my laptop.
#3285 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> ?? forceupdate
#3286 [23:43] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3287 [23:43] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#3288 [23:43] <jmmurp2> I've tried that and it still won't work...
#3289 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/reinst
#3290 [23:43] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3291 [23:43] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3292 [23:44] <jmmurp2> I'll try that now, hopefully it'll work.
#3293 [23:47] <jmmurp2> I deleted everything except for the saves file and the bin folder. It says the bin folder is open elsewhere. Any idea what that is?
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#3295 [23:47] <ShadoCapital> Help!
#3296 [23:48] <Wug> :ww
#3297 [23:48] <WugBot> ww: Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#3298 [23:48] <ShadoCapital> I'm trying to join servers but some server I am stuck on downloading terrain
#3299 [23:48] <Wug> it's a server side issue probably
#3300 [23:48] <ShadoCapital> It saids Connection Lost, then Internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
#3301 [23:51] <ShadoCapital> In the server console it saids: ShadoCapital lost connection: disconnect.endOfStream
#3302 [23:52] <ShadoCapital> And restarting the server doesn't work either, this issue have happens on a lot of other servers I've been trying to join too
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#3304 [23:53] <jmmurp2> In the bin folder is a bunch of JAR files, and it says those are all open in WebKit2WebProcess.exe
#3305 [23:53] <jmmurp2> I'm not sure what that is...
#3306 [23:53] * Lord_Ralex is now known as Afk_Ralex
#3307 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> jmmurp2: Those are the files that Minecraft uses
#3308 [23:54] <jmmurp2> I can't delete them though. They're open somewhere else, but I don't know where.
#3309 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> jmmurp2: Restart your computer and then check them out again
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#3311 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> jmmurp2: Be sure to not have anything relating to minecraft running either
#3312 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> grah