#MinecraftHelp > 2012-10-04
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#2 [00:02] <jmmurp2> Now I can't even play offline.
#3 [00:03] <jmmurp2> It says it's not downloaded.
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#5 [00:04] <DiskDaemon> jmmurp2: Having the minecraft.exe launcher download the files is the next stage of things
#6 [00:04] <jmmurp2> And how do I do that?
#7 [00:05] <DiskDaemon> jmmurp2: Login, and it will download Minecraft for you
#8 [00:07] <jmmurp2> I went to the website, and it automatically opened up the client. A big problem I always see is it's always saying "loading update news" but it never actually loads.
#9 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> jmmurp2: Is that where you see HTML tags too?
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#11 [00:09] <jmmurp2> I used to, but ever since I patched it they're no longer there. All it says is Loading Update News in big gray letters.
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#13 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> jmmurp2: Don’t use patched stuff. Just use the normal minecraft.exe file that you obtain from minecraft.net
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#17 [00:11] <Vendy13> How can I separate my Minecraft account from my Mojang account?
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#19 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> Vendy13: I don’t think that it’s possible
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#21 [00:12] <Vendy13> Is there a way to change my Minecraft username back to what it was?
#22 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> Vendy13: Your username doesn’t change
#23 [00:13] <jmmurp2> The problem is I downloaded two MCpatchers, but only the second one fixed the problem with the texture packs I had.
#24 [00:13] <jmmurp2> Do I have to delete these?
#25 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> Vendy13: When you log in with your email address, that is the only time that it is used or seen. Your minecraft username is still what it was, and everyone in multiplayer only sees your username. Not your email
#26 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> jmmurp2: We do not support modded or patched systems here.
#27 [00:13] <Vendy13> Oh okay. Thank you very much! :D
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#29 [00:14] <DiskDaemon> jmmurp2: In other words, stop pissing around with things and we might be able to start helping you
#30 [00:14] <DiskDaemon> dang! :)
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#32 [00:15] <ShadoCapital> I'm trying to join servers but some server I am stuck on downloading terrain
#33 [00:15] <ShadoCapital> It saids Connection Lost, then Internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
#34 [00:15] <ShadoCapital> In the server console it saids: ShadoCapital lost connection: disconnect.endOfStream
#35 [00:15] <ShadoCapital> And restarting the server doesn't work either, this issue have happens on a lot of other servers I've been trying to join too
#36 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> ShadoCapital: You meantioned that just a few minutes ago - and were given some information about the situation
#37 [00:16] <ShadoCapital> Where?
#38 [00:16] <ShadoCapital> I do not see any...
#39 [00:16] <ShadoCapital> Well it is not a server side issue
#40 [00:17] <DiskDaemon> ShadoCapital: sorry we can’t help you any further with that then
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#48 [00:43] <valium> it appears that you can no longer auto-login on windows using the shortcut trick. Is it just me, or is htere something I missed?
#49 [00:44] <Andrio> auto-login?
#50 [00:45] <Wug> valium: I dont know. There would have to have been an update
#51 [00:45] <Wug> (im not sure if there was)
#52 [00:45] <Wug> it wouldnt just break spontaneously
#53 [00:46] <valium> Andrio yes, by passing username and passwoard as command line args tothe minecraft.exe
#54 [00:47] <Andrio> oh.
#55 [00:53] <valium> random DCC....
#56 [00:53] <Wug> who
#57 [00:53] <valium> of a portrait of issac newton.
#58 [00:53] <valium> Jleg
#59 [00:54] <valium> ahhh, hes in #bukkit
#60 [00:57] <valium> So now, I'm having to dig through the client code to find the format for launch parameters. I think I found it, but... obfuscation...yay. Also, theres no way to auto-login with the current launcher.
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#68 [01:34] <valium> I've sorted my logon issue, how fun. You can skip using hte launcher and launch the client directly, IF you know your sessionid
#69 [01:36] <Calinou> or use a .bat/.sh file
#70 [01:36] <Calinou> simpler
#71 [01:37] <valium> Calinou but again, you need the sessionid
#72 [01:37] <Calinou> nope
#73 [01:37] <valium> if you want to play SMP
#74 [01:38] <valium> I should have said that.
#75 [01:38] <Calinou> ah
#76 [01:38] <Calinou> your sessionid always changes..
#77 [01:38] <valium> yes it does.
#78 [01:38] <valium> on linux you can use a bash script to wget, then grep the sessionid out, windows however, not so much.
#79 [01:40] <valium> I making a server browser/launcher/skinchanger app for windows 8.
#80 [01:40] <valium> hence the need to sort out the authentication.
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#105 [03:12] <dmandUnlimited> I need help with a server problem
#106 [03:13] <dmandUnlimited> anyone even here?
#107 [03:14] <DiskDaemon> sure
#108 [03:16] <dmandUnlimited> i cannot connect to my one local server ever since i updated
#109 [03:17] <dmandUnlimited> i keep getting "outdated server"
#110 [03:17] <TheNoodle> Have you updated your local server?
#111 [03:19] <dmandUnlimited> i have
#112 [03:19] <TheNoodle> Pastebin the startup log please.
#113 [03:20] <dmandUnlimited> the entire file?
#114 [03:22] <TheNoodle> no, just from the latest start
#115 [03:27] <dmandUnlimited> 03:25:18 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version 1.3.2 2012-10-04 03:25:18 [INFO] Loading properties 2012-10-04 03:25:18 [INFO] Default game type: SURVIVAL 2012-10-04 03:25:18 [INFO] Generating keypair 2012-10-04 03:25:18 [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:25565 2012-10-04 03:25:19 [INFO] Preparing level "SkyBlock2.1" 2012-10-04 03:25:19 [INFO] Preparing start region for level 0 2012-10-04 03:25:19 [INFO] Done (0.
#116 [03:28] <DiskDaemon> dmandUnlimited: Not here dumdum - to pastebin.com thanks
#117 [03:28] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#118 [03:28] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#120 [03:28] <bozo97> i have been here before looking for help with a server
#121 [03:29] <dmandUnlimited> ok
#122 [03:29] <bozo97> and i need someone to teamview and do it for me
#123 [03:29] <bozo97> so can someone do it
#124 [03:29] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: We prefer to help people in the channel here, because that helps learning to occur
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#126 [03:29] <dmandUnlimited> http://pastebin.com/sDU5rTv4
#127 [03:30] <bozo97> i no but i have been here before i couldnt do it
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#129 [03:30] <bozo97> i have tried so many times
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#131 [03:30] <bozo97> so i just want someone to do it
#132 [03:31] <bozo97> and i do understand how to do it
#133 [03:31] * Guest32809 is now known as gv
#134 [03:31] <bozo97> so can u please do it
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#136 [03:31] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: My answer is no.
#137 [03:32] <TheNoodle> dmandUnlimited, my only thought would be if you're using a snapshot client.
#138 [03:33] <bozo97> why not
#139 [03:33] <bozo97> your being unhelpful
#140 [03:33] <TheNoodle> Because you're lazy.
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#142 [03:33] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: Because I control what I desire to do.
#143 [03:33] <bozo97> well i have tried many times and cant do it
#144 [03:34] <bozo97> so im asking for someone to please do it
#145 [03:34] <TheNoodle> We don't even know what 'it' is.
#146 [03:34] <bozo97> setup a server
#147 [03:34] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: The people here who help are all volunteers - working on their own clock, under their own rules, and at no pay.
#148 [03:34] <bozo97> ok
#149 [03:35] <bozo97> can anyone here teamview fo rme
#150 [03:35] <DiskDaemon> Detailed instructions are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#151 [03:36] <bozo97> thats confusing
#152 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> It really isn't.
#153 [03:37] <TheNoodle> Then you do not have the required skillset or intelligence to run a server.
#154 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> What part of the tutorial is confusing for you?
#155 [03:38] <DiskDaemon> It can be a complex task though, and I don’t have the time or the patience or the energy or the bandwith to participate in such things
#156 [03:39] <bozo97> thats why im asking someone else to teamview and do it
#157 [03:39] <bozo97> and do all the portforwading
#158 [03:39] <bozo97> please someone do it
#159 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> I would, but it's 3am, and i've got work in a few
#160 [03:39] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: Sorry, the answer is no.
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#162 [03:40] <bozo97> anyone else wanna please do it
#163 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> Try asking again tomorrow, at an earlier time
#164 [03:40] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: What normally happens is that people pay others to do the work that they can’t or don’t want to do.
#165 [03:40] <DiskDaemon> I’m not suggesting that that occurs here, but that’s the normal way of things. Look at car mechanics, for example.
#166 [03:41] <bozo97> thats different
#167 [03:41] <bozo97> surely theres heaps of helpers cant someone do it
#168 [03:41] <DiskDaemon> No, it’s the same. You don’t want to learn how to set up a minecraft server, or to tune a car engine.
#169 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> It's still work. Practicing a skillset that is not widely known to everybody
#170 [03:42] <bozo97> ok
#171 [03:42] <bozo97> please can u do it now i want to run a server
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#173 [03:44] <bozo97> im begging
#174 [03:44] <bozo97> i really want to run a server
#175 [03:44] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: If you continue to do so then steps may be taken to remove you from the channel
#176 [03:44] <DiskDaemon> Harrassment is not appreciated
#177 [03:44] <bozo97> im not harrasing
#178 [03:45] <bozo97> im asking a help channel for help
#179 [03:45] <TheNoodle> That's up to the channel operators to decide, not you.
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#181 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> That's great. Ask again tomorrow, when more helpers aren't asleep or otherwise busy
#182 [03:45] <bozo97> ok then
#183 [03:45] <bozo97> yous are being rude
#184 [03:45] <DiskDaemon> ^
#185 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> This isn't exactly a light task you are asking here
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#187 [03:45] <bozo97> but i will ask again tomorrow as u say
#188 [03:46] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: Would it be less rude for me to give in to your demands and do what you want me to do, even though I don’t want to do it?
#189 [03:46] <TheNoodle> Yep! submiiiit. OBEYYYYY
#190 [03:46] <bozo97> welll isnt that helping
#191 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> no. It's slavery
#192 [03:47] <TheNoodle> which is pretty rude D:
#193 [03:47] <bozo97> no its not
#194 [03:47] <bozo97> not slavery
#195 [03:47] <TheNoodle> You're attempting to force someone to perform work for you, for free and against their will.
#196 [03:48] <TheNoodle> May as well bust out the shackles.
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#198 [03:48] <bozo97> im asking a help channel for help!! if they dont wont to help why be here
#199 [03:49] <DiskDaemon> TheNoodle: yes master
#200 [03:49] * DiskDaemon starts rummaging in the chests
#200 [03:49] <TheNoodle> bozo97, to provide assistance to users that need a bit of guidance, not to do everything for someone because they don't want to learn themselves.
#201 [03:50] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: There are certain fields relating to minecraft that some of us are better at providing help with
#202 [03:50] <bozo97> i did want to learn but i have tried that many times, i just cant do it
#203 [03:50] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: Let me put it this way - if you are willing to learn, we are willing to teach.
#204 [03:51] <bozo97> ok then
#205 [03:51] <DiskDaemon> If it’s in the too hard basket - leave it or find someone else who is “WILLING!” to do it for you.
#206 [03:52] * TheNoodle feeds DiskDaemon his daily slice of mouldy bread
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#207 [03:52] <DiskDaemon> I found a shack - the search for shackles continues
#208 [03:53] <bozo97> ok teach me then
#209 [03:53] <bozo97> !
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#211 [03:53] <gv> What version of mine craft are you running?
#212 [03:54] <bozo97> 1.3.2
#213 [03:54] <gv> Are you running a snapshot version?
#214 [03:54] <bozo97> whats that
#215 [03:54] <DiskDaemon> I may need to search farther afield for some shackles, but I’m shackled to the post here. The search continues...
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#217 [03:54] <bozo97> what is snapshot version
#218 [03:55] <gv> Snapshot versions of mine craft are prerelease versions of minecraft from mojang.Com
#219 [03:55] <bozo97> its a premium account
#220 [03:55] <gv> They're development builds, issued so people can see what mojang is working on
#221 [03:56] <bozo97> no its not a snapshot version
#222 [03:56] <bozo97> so what now?
#223 [03:57] <gv> Then, what kind of server do you plan to run? Will this be a vanilla or nodded server with plug insurance?
#224 [03:57] <gv> Er moddes
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#226 [03:57] <gv> Bah, dang phone
#227 [03:57] <bozo97> just a normal server where i can get a few other guys to come on and help me build
#228 [03:58] <gv> Where did you initially download the server file from?
#229 [03:58] <bozo97> the server.exe
#230 [03:58] <gv> Minecraft.net/download?
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#232 [03:58] <bozo97> yes
#233 [03:59] <bozo97> from the minecraft server
#234 [03:59] <gv> Okay then. Redownload it. Place it in a folder on your desktop
#235 [04:00] <bozo97> yep
#236 [04:00] <gv> Run it. Then run minecraft. Connect via the multi player function with "direct connect"
#237 [04:00] <gv> Use 127.0.0.1 for the ip.
#238 [04:01] <bozo97> yeah
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#240 [04:01] <gv> Does it cinnect
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#242 [04:01] <gv> Connect*
#243 [04:01] <bozo97> im in it
#244 [04:01] <bozo97> ye
#245 [04:01] <bozo97> yes*
#246 [04:01] <gv> Great. Step 2. Configuring your router.
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#248 [04:02] <bozo97> ok
#249 [04:02] <gv> Close mine craft and the server
#250 [04:02] <bozo97> yep
#251 [04:02] <gv> What operating system are you running?
#252 [04:02] <gv> Windows?
#253 [04:02] <bozo97> yes windows
#254 [04:02] <gv> What version?
#255 [04:02] <bozo97> 7
#256 [04:02] <gv> Xp? Vista? 7?
#257 [04:02] <bozo97> 7
#258 [04:02] <gv> Okay then.
#259 [04:03] <gv> Go to your start menu. In the search bar, type in: cmd
#260 [04:03] <bozo97> yep
#261 [04:03] <gv> Press enter. A black command prompt windows pops up, yes?
#262 [04:03] <bozo97> yes
#263 [04:04] <gv> In it, type in: ipconfig
#264 [04:04] <bozo97> yep
#265 [04:04] <gv> Tell us the ipv4 and default gateway addresses
#266 [04:05] <bozo97> ipv4 : 192.168.1.2 gateway : 192.168.1.1
#267 [04:05] <gv> The first is your computer's ip address. The second is usually the ip of your router that you'll need to set up next
#268 [04:05] <bozo97> ok now what
#269 [04:05] <gv> Great. Open up a website browser. Connect to http:192.168.1.1
#270 [04:06] <gv> Http://192.168.1.1
#271 [04:06] <bozo97> yes
#272 [04:06] <bozo97> done that
#273 [04:06] <gv> What do you see there.
#274 [04:06] <bozo97> my router stuff
#275 [04:07] <gv> I'm not omniscient. I can't read over your shoulder
#276 [04:07] <gv> Can you give me more information? What is the router's model or I'd?
#277 [04:07] <bozo97> it comes up with all my router details and configuration
#278 [04:07] <bozo97> its netgear WNR100v3
#279 [04:09] <bozo97> what next
#280 [04:09] <gv> Along the left side. Port forwarding /truggering
#281 [04:09] <bozo97> yes
#282 [04:10] <bozo97> on that
#283 [04:10] <gv> Add service.
#284 [04:10] <bozo97> yes
#285 [04:10] <gv> Service nane: mc server
#286 [04:10] <gv> Protocol: tcp
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#288 [04:10] <gv> Starting port 25565
#289 [04:10] <bozo97> yep
#290 [04:10] <gv> Ending. 25565
#291 [04:11] <bozo97> yep
#292 [04:11] <gv> Server ip: 192.168.1.2
#293 [04:11] <bozo97> ok
#294 [04:11] <bozo97> done all that
#295 [04:11] <bozo97> now what
#296 [04:11] <gv> Save/apply
#297 [04:11] <bozo97> yes
#298 [04:12] <gv> Close the Page. Run your mine craft server
#299 [04:12] <gv> Is it running?
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#301 [04:13] <bozo97> yes
#302 [04:13] <gv> ;check bozo97
#303 [04:13] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: CPE-121-216-153-1.lnse2.ken.bigpond.net.au:25565 (Timed out)
#304 [04:13] <bozo97> its running
#305 [04:14] <gv> Got a firewall or security software that may be blocking mine craft?
#306 [04:14] <bozo97> dont think so, and minecraft is working
#307 [04:15] <bozo97> next
#308 [04:15] <gv> Well, port forwarding is set up. You can connect to it from your computer, so it's not the server.
#309 [04:15] <gv> Next, we find out what else is blocking connectivity to the computer
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#311 [04:16] <gv> What security software do you run?
#312 [04:16] <bozo97> mcafee
#313 [04:16] <gv> Try disabling it temporarily.
#314 [04:17] <bozo97> why
#315 [04:17] <bozo97> my minecraft is running
#316 [04:17] <gv> To run a test on whether or not McAfee is blocking connections from outside
#317 [04:17] <lutzee> Because no one can connect from the outside.
#318 [04:17] <bozo97> oh
#319 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> To find out if it’s responsible. If it is, there are ways with it enabled to allow things to carrry on working
#320 [04:18] <gv> Unless you're happy with playing by yourself
#321 [04:18] <bozo97> and when i go to port checker it says its closed
#322 [04:18] <bozo97> ok i will try disable it
#323 [04:19] <bozo97> firewall is off
#324 [04:19] <bozo97> try now
#325 [04:19] <gv> ;check bozo97
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#327 [04:19] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: CPE-121-216-153-1.lnse2.ken.bigpond.net.au:25565 (Timed out)
#328 [04:19] <bozo97> what
#329 [04:20] <gv> Either McAfee isn't disabled, or there's something else
#330 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> Instructions - http://forums.cnet.com/7723-6132_102-306705/how-temorarily-disable-mcafee-security-center/
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#332 [04:22] <DiskDaemon> Or, for instructions that cover how to temporarily disable a wide range of antivirus/firewall/etc things, see http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic114351.html
#333 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> Here’s an animated gif of the process for McAfee http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/sUBs/mcafee_disable.gif
#334 [04:24] <bozo97> i dont have that menu thing
#335 [04:25] <bozo97> mines diiferent
#336 [04:25] <DiskDaemon> The interface may be slightly different, but I don’t have mcafee installed to determine that
#337 [04:25] <bozo97> on mine my firewall is off
#338 [04:26] <bozo97> my firewall is off
#339 [04:27] <gv> ;check bozo97
#340 [04:27] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: CPE-121-216-153-1.lnse2.ken.bigpond.net.au:25565 (Timed out)
#341 [04:27] <bozo97> it is off
#342 [04:27] <DiskDaemon> It’s not just the firewall - you’ve been asked to temporarily disable all of mcafee
#343 [04:27] <bozo97> oh
#344 [04:28] <bozo97> dont no how to disable it on mine]
#345 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> Anyone else here have mcafee?
#346 [04:29] <gv> bozo97: can you confirm that you have a port forwarding entry for the mc server on your net gear router Page?
#347 [04:30] <lutzee> I believe from a quick google that rules can be set up in mcafee for port forwarding.
#348 [04:30] <gv> What wan ip address does your netgear router say it has?
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#350 [04:30] <bozo97> i dont now
#351 [04:30] <bozo97> no*
#352 [04:31] * gv eyes bozo97's .1 address
#352 [04:31] <bozo97> what
#353 [04:31] <DiskDaemon> lutzee: That can be done, but it’s no use if mcafee isn’t responsible for the problem in the first place. That’s where confirmation becomes useful
#354 [04:32] <bozo97> so what do i do
#355 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> For several months I’ve been realising that there’s a diagnosis problem. Just how can it be determined if port forwarding is getting through to the router, and possibly through to the computer, if some other unknown computer software may potentially be blocking things?
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#358 [04:33] <DiskDaemon> Currently all I can think of is to disable anything that may be getting in the way, and to then bring them back one by one until the cause of the problem raises its ugly head
#359 [04:34] <bozo97> try connect now
#360 [04:34] <gv> bozo97: go to your router at 192.168.1.1
#361 [04:34] <bozo97> yes
#362 [04:34] <gv> Under the left side, there's a button labeled router status
#363 [04:35] <gv> Click on it. Under Internet address, what's the ip listed there?
#364 [04:35] <bozo97> 10.0.0.1
#365 [04:36] <gv> Ah hah
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#367 [04:36] <bozo97> what
#368 [04:36] <gv> Go to http:// 10.0.0.1
#369 [04:36] <bozo97> yes
#370 [04:36] <gv> What do you see there?
#371 [04:37] <lutzee> double NAT? :<
#372 [04:37] <itzmjauz> gv: a load of barnicles
#373 [04:37] <gv> Double nat. Or residential router
#374 [04:37] <gv> I'm thinking the latter
#375 [04:38] <bozo97> i have a modem and a router
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#377 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> So the 10.* would need to have port forwarding applied to it too - messy.
#378 [04:39] <gv> What do you see when you go to http://10.0.0.1?
#379 [04:39] <bozo97> i cant get to it, it comes up with google searches
#380 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: You may not be in a position that allows you to host a minecraft server on your local computer there.
#381 [04:40] <gv> That's what I'm thinking as well
#382 [04:40] <bozo97> why
#383 [04:41] <gv> Your isp has it set up in a way that it's not possible to set up a server in your home to be accessible from the outside
#384 [04:41] * DiskDaemon gestures towards gv
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#385 [04:41] <bozo97> well thats stupid
#386 [04:41] <bozo97> oh well thanks for trying
#387 [04:41] <gv> Sorry
#388 [04:42] <bozo97> cya
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#390 [04:42] <Necrodoom> gv: what is 10.0.0.1?
#391 [04:42] <Necrodoom> ah, nvm
#392 [04:42] <gv> For those that were following, clue 1 was bozo97's public option address ending in .1
#393 [04:43] <gv> Er public ip address
#394 [04:43] <bozo97> so theres no way to host
#395 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> THe suspicious side of me thinks that ISP’s are using the 10. network in response to the restricted number of IP addresses that are available nowdays
#396 [04:43] <bozo97> ok then
#397 [04:43] <AG_Clinton> NAT
#398 [04:43] <bozo97> icya later guys
#399 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> in the IPv4 range anyway
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#401 [04:44] <gv> You see this often with isps that do residential level natting with a gateway
#402 [04:45] <gv> Sometimes it's a smaller isp with a limited number of ips in its pool
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#404 [04:46] <gv> Anywoo, now that's done with.
#405 [04:46] * gv goes back to bed
#405 [04:48] * DiskDaemon applauds gv, and shakes fist at his own existing lack of red blood cells (dizziness, anemia, meds affecting bone marrow, etc)
#405 [04:48] <gv> Eep.
#406 [04:49] <DiskDaemon> I’m on an experimental clinical trial to cure me of cancer using oral medication, that is - popping pills
#407 [04:49] <gv> That sounds like no fun at all. Red stuff is needed for life, and diluting the alcohol flowing through it
#408 [04:49] <DiskDaemon> scratch that, not cancer - hepatitis C
#409 [04:50] <gv> Good luck to you.
#410 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> Oh, I’m looking forward to diluting the alcohol flowing through it at some future stage. The first week results are looking promising. The viral load went from over 12 million to just 731.
#411 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> It starts off as a steep descent, but the remaining 11 weeks are a slow crawl as I work my way towards 0
#412 [04:51] * D4rkSnowy is now known as HUNTINGNIGGERS
#413 [04:51] <gv> Whoa, that sounds great.
#414 [04:51] <Calinou> "Or residential router" < what do you mean by residential router?
#415 [04:51] <Calinou> the routers ISPs give you?
#416 [04:52] <gv> Residential gateway. Router before going to homes
#417 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> HUNTINGNIGGERS: Please choose a different nickname or you will be dealt with summarily
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#420 [04:52] <Calinou> ...lol
#421 [04:52] * gv face palms.
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#422 [04:53] * gv nods.
#422 [04:54] * DiskDaemon gets back on the merry-go-round :)
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#423 [04:57] <SilentNiggers> How about now
#424 [04:57] * DiskDaemon kicked SilentNiggers from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ilentNiggers :You're welcome to return when you've chosen a less offensive nickname)
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#426 [05:10] <Rosario-Plus-vampire> Is this name better :)
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#430 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> aww, that was an interesting one there
#431 [05:12] * d4rksnowy is now known as Rosario-Plus-vampire
#432 [05:14] * DiskDaemon starts reading http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/RosarioToVampire
#432 [05:21] <Rosario-Plus-vampire> They have a new series on it's way
#433 [05:21] <Rosario-Plus-vampire> for the anime :D
#434 [05:21] <Rosario-Plus-vampire> capu 3 :D
#435 [05:24] <DiskDaemon> Aww no - “fan service ... is completely overused and abused in the anime, to the extent that the writers sacrificed the entire plot and character development of the original manga in favour of breast and panty shots”
#436 [05:36] <gv> Bleh
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#451 [07:04] <Xaik> Hi, I have a question. I can't logging in my acc on Minecraft.net. I had registered myself and bought the game a long time ago. The problem is that I no longer have the email address which I have registered.
#452 [07:05] <Red_M> Xaik: well we cant do much unless mollstam is actually just lurking here or something
#453 [07:06] <Red_M> Xaik: unless you can guess your own password
#454 [07:07] <Xaik> I know my password. But it dosn't work
#455 [07:07] <Xaik> Sry for my english. I am from Germany :)
#456 [07:08] <lutzee> Xaik: When you say you don't have the email, you mean you don't have access to it, or you deleted it?
#457 [07:09] <Xaik> I deleted my email acc :)
#458 [07:09] <lutzee> (Also i must leave in 15 minutes, of which i have to make myself lunch)
#459 [07:09] <lutzee> Xaik: if you remake the email address using the same address, you should be able to send a password reset email to it.
#460 [07:10] <Xaik> that is a good idea thanks
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#471 [07:38] <Xaik> mhh my email Acc is for 180 days closed...
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#481 [08:04] <tryy3> Can anyone tell me any good java parameters for running a minecraft server except the standard -Xincgc and -Xmxn ?
#482 [08:04] <Andrio> What's -Xincgc?
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#485 [08:06] <tryy3> there i pmed it
#486 [08:07] <TheNoodle> This can't end well D:
#487 [08:07] <tryy3> TheNoodle lol
#488 [08:07] <tryy3> TheNoodle lol
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#490 [08:11] <Boreeas> incgc sounds like a bad idea
#491 [08:12] <Andrio> [22:07:27] <+28TheNoodle> This can't end well D:
#492 [08:12] <Boreeas> I'd think that concurrent mark/sweep causes less lag, or am I wrong here?
#493 [08:12] <Andrio> what do you mean by that?
#494 [08:13] <tryy3> Andrio he thinks iam gonna break something and thought it was on one of hes servers ^_^
#495 [08:13] <tryy3> Boreeas o.O its a bad thing?
#496 [08:15] <Boreeas> tryy3: Reading through the docs, it looks like they are both good.
#497 [08:16] <tryy3> Boreeas thought so
#498 [08:16] <Boreeas> Actually, incgc seems to imply ConcurrentMArkAndSweep
#499 [08:17] <tryy3> in my eyes that word is out of my knowledge
#500 [08:17] <tryy3> :D
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#507 [08:50] <jeremyb> is
#508 [08:50] <jeremyb> is there any way to recover accidentally deleted worlds that were not saved prior to deleting?
#509 [08:50] <jeremyb> not saved on a flash drive, i mean
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#513 [09:12] <lutzee> jeremyb: recycling bin?
#514 [09:13] <lutzee> or did you delete them from within minecraft? :|
#515 [09:14] <jeremyb> no
#516 [09:15] <jeremyb> I deleted them through the tab
#517 [09:17] <jeremyb> I accidentally cut minecraft shortcut from desktop and it went to recycle bin. when i restored it my worlds are gone from minecraft and also from folder on computer
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#528 [09:39] <Rosario-Plus-vampire> they need to add secret features to minecraft
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#534 [09:54] <Nico> Hallo, ich habe technische Probleme mit dem Einloggen.
#535 [09:54] <lutzee> Nico: most People here only speak english
#536 [09:55] <lutzee> But from what i can tell you are having problems logging into the game on your account?
#537 [09:57] <lutzee> ??> Nico inchannel
#538 [09:57] <Nico> yes
#539 [09:58] <lutzee> Nico: i would prefer to help you in the channel, not via PM
#540 [09:58] <Nico> ah okey
#541 [09:58] <Nico> i can also english speak, when it is easier :)
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#543 [09:59] <lutzee> I can only just about translate german to english, i can't reply in german-
#544 [09:59] <lutzee> -.-
#545 [09:59] <Andrio> ??< index
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#548 [09:59] <Andrio> ??>> lutzee dont/pm
#549 [09:59] <nimbusuk> is thier a minecraft admin here
#550 [09:59] <Nico> so, i have technical problems with log in in minecraft on game and websites
#551 [10:00] <lutzee> Andrio: mind pastebinning the index for me? :<
#552 [10:00] <lutzee> Nico: what error are you getting?
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#554 [10:00] <Andrio> [23:59:23] –VoxelHead– index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#555 [10:01] <lutzee> Andrio: uni blocks the website
#556 [10:01] <Andrio> oh.
#557 [10:01] <Andrio> Give me a sec.
#558 [10:01] <Nico> so, i have my laptop yesterday complete new created, So I have to reinstall everything
#559 [10:02] <Andrio> lutzee: http://pastebin.com/3zEFeXB1
#560 [10:02] <lutzee> Thanks :)
#561 [10:04] <Nico> i have minecraft before ca. 1 hour downloaded and my account "migrated" and now can Isn't log in in minecraft game and minecraft.net
#562 [10:04] <Nico> but in mojang.com
#563 [10:04] <lutzee> you need to log in using your email address
#564 [10:04] <lutzee> not the minecraft username
#565 [10:05] <Nico> I've already done it because I was also shown on minecraft.net
#566 [10:07] <Nico> for example if I want to log in the game is with username or e-mail because I have logged supposedly too often.
#567 [10:07] <lutzee> You should always be using your email
#568 [10:08] <Nico> with email, it is not even
#569 [10:11] <Nico> lutzee this is the new one only with the e-mail may sign up now?
#570 [10:11] <lutzee> You are able to log into mojang.com?
#571 [10:12] <Nico> yes
#572 [10:12] <Nico> is the page minecraft.net down?
#573 [10:12] <lutzee> Nope
#574 [10:13] <Nico> öhm lol
#575 [10:13] <Nico> i can now overall login
#576 [10:13] <Nico> is that a "bug" or so been
#577 [10:17] <Nico> okey i thank you
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#585 [10:33] * tyteen4a03 ** WinSys ** Client: HexChat 2.9.1 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 ºXÄ¥î:mP ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 8028 MB Total (4716 MB Free) ** VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics ** Uptime: 71.89 Hours **
#585 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> note to self: do not press buttons
#586 [10:34] <lutzee> What did you press? xD
#587 [10:35] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: HexChat's display system info
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#609 [11:21] <Jammo> Hi guys
#610 [11:21] <lutzee> Hey
#611 [11:22] <Jammo> Trying to buy premium with paypal, but the transaction keeps getting cancelled
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#613 [11:22] <Jammo> Wondering if this was an issue recently?
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#615 [11:22] <lutzee> Jammo: It's probably your bank blocking it
#616 [11:23] <Jammo> but Paypal works fine for me?
#617 [11:23] <Jammo> with other transactions, that is
#618 [11:23] <lutzee> Then i am not sure, contant paypal and ask
#619 [11:23] <Jammo> Alrighty cheers. Just making sure it wasn't on MC's end
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#621 [11:26] <jsm> getting an error that mincraft is damaged and can't be opened. running on a mac
#622 [11:27] <NinjaKirby> inb4 gatekeeper
#623 [11:27] <lutzee> ??> jsm mac/gatekeeper
#624 [11:27] <VoxelHead> jsm: (mac/gatekeeper) Apple has recently added new security to recent versiona of OS X which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
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#626 [11:28] <jsm> thanks
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#643 [12:14] <believe> II purchased minecraft and then just recently started playing the game. Last night when i was playing it something happened and my browser went blank. Alot of things happened to my computer. It was like a virus took over my system.
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#645 [12:14] <believe> what do you think happened?
#646 [12:15] <Hjelme83> Question. Do latest tekkit server support worldedit?
#647 [12:15] <Hjelme83> i cant seem to get it to work
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#649 [12:16] <rhysjone45> my minecaft on my pc is not making a sound
#650 [12:16] <valium> Hjelme83 wrong channel.
#651 [12:16] <rhysjone45> ?
#652 [12:16] <Hjelme83> Could you poke me in the right direction?
#653 [12:16] <valium> rhysjone45 is it just minecraft?
#654 [12:16] <rhysjone45> yes
#655 [12:16] <valium> Hjelme83 try in #bukkit
#656 [12:17] <pyromaniac3814> hey you guys know a channel i could ask nerdy stuff unrelated to minecraft ?
#657 [12:17] <valium> rhysjone45 what OS?
#658 [12:17] <valium> pyromaniac3814 like, what kind of nerdy stuff?
#659 [12:17] <rhysjone45> what do you mean by o?
#660 [12:17] <valium> operating system
#661 [12:17] <rhysjone45> so*
#662 [12:17] <rhysjone45> os**
#663 [12:18] <pyromaniac3814> fuzes and wires
#664 [12:18] <valium> pyromaniac3814, so electronics then.
#665 [12:18] <pyromaniac3814> yup
#666 [12:19] <believe> Any idea why minecraft locked my system up?
#667 [12:19] <valium> believe, none at all.
#668 [12:19] <rhysjone45> it may have had a overload
#669 [12:19] <valium> pyromaniac3814 , try #arduino on freenode
#670 [12:19] <believe> what do you mean by overload?
#671 [12:19] <valium> or ask me, I know a fair bit.
#672 [12:19] <rhysjone45> what was you doing last on iy?
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#674 [12:20] <Denizen> you could also ask me
#675 [12:20] <Denizen> in query
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#679 [12:22] <spoon> hi guys
#680 [12:22] * Grim_Reaper spoons spoon
#680 [12:22] <Grim_Reaper> Hello how can we help you
#681 [12:22] <Grim_Reaper> Would you like some cereal?
#682 [12:22] <spoon> hi grim, i have a slight problem
#683 [12:22] <Grim_Reaper> Alright. What is your issue exactly ^^?
#684 [12:22] <spoon> i've decided to restart my minecraft server and now when i use the /tp command it sends me to -30000000
#685 [12:22] <spoon> and i die :(
#686 [12:23] <believe> can I get a refund for my purchase? Im really sad that it is not working on my system. Who can I contact for a refund??
#687 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> believe: Minecraft does not offer a refund at the moment
#688 [12:23] <Grim_Reaper> believe it's unlikely. But please visit http://help.mojang.com
#689 [12:23] <valium> believe, what is your system?
#690 [12:23] <believe> Windows Vista
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#692 [12:23] <Grim_Reaper> Spoon by restart. Do you mean simply close and open the server. Or use a new version?
#693 [12:23] <spoon> is there any reason for a /tp command to be broken? i thought /tp was a default minecraft command
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#695 [12:24] <spoon> well
#696 [12:24] <spoon> i havn't started the server for like 2 months
#697 [12:24] <valium> believe, what about your video card?
#698 [12:24] <spoon> im running craftbukkit if that makes any difference
#699 [12:24] <believe> I am not sure about a video card. Unfortunatlly I am computer illiterate. :)
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#701 [12:25] <Grim_Reaper> ??> believe win/dxdiag
#702 [12:25] <VoxelHead> believe: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#703 [12:25] <VoxelHead> believe: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#704 [12:25] <valium> believe, then tell me this, was this a custom built, or factory built computer?
#705 [12:25] <valium> or that ^^
#706 [12:26] <rhysjone45> hello my minecraft sound isn't working how do i solve this?
#707 [12:26] <Grim_Reaper> rhysjone45 are you using the snapshot?
#708 [12:26] <rhysjone45> no
#709 [12:26] <believe> I am at work right now and not on my home computer. But i have a factory built computer.
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#711 [12:26] <Grim_Reaper> Has it always never worked?
#712 [12:26] <Grim_Reaper> believe then can I ask when you get home you come back here?
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#714 [12:26] <Grim_Reaper> It's a little hard to help if we cant know what your computer specs are and if you have the required stuff
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#716 [12:27] <Necrodoom> and if sound is enabled in the first place
#717 [12:27] <believe> yup..i can come back later tonight. Thank you!!
#718 [12:27] <rhysjone45> well it happens now and then
#719 [12:27] <Grim_Reaper> Now and then?
#720 [12:27] <Denizen> we need an ??> for installing speccy and how to take a screenshot of it
#721 [12:27] <valium> I'm going to guess that with it beiong factory built, and having vista on it, the video card is likely a bit nemic.
#722 [12:28] <rhysjone45> some times it dos sometimes it dosn't
#723 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> valium it's possible. But I guess..
#724 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> if you plau games such as say..
#725 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> Call of duty 4 or something
#726 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> Then your card is definitely ok for minecraft
#727 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> rhysjone45 does it suddenly turn off during the game or just sometimes not work when you start the game?
#728 [12:29] <rhysjone45> when i star
#729 [12:29] <rhysjone45> start*
#730 [12:29] <Grim_Reaper> Ok and Im assuming this only happens in minecraft?
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#732 [12:30] <rhysjone45> yes
#733 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> Alrighty. I would suggest making sure your sound drivers are up to date. (please dont make use of device manager to do this. You need to actually find out what software your sound card uses and install the latest version from said website) Usually computers I see these days use realtek or something
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#735 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> Also I suggest trying to reinstall minecraft from scratch (backup your saves and delete the .minecraft folder)
#736 [12:31] <rhysjone45_> hello
#737 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> Hi again
#738 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> Dced?
#739 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/j9vxx.png this is what you missed
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#741 [12:32] <Grim_Reaper> Anyways if you cant find your .minecraft folder
#742 [12:32] <Grim_Reaper> ?? win/.minecraft
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#744 [12:32] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#745 [12:32] <Grim_Reaper> make sure not to use the quotes ""
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#747 [12:33] <rhysjone45_> iv alredy odn it it dosnt work
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#749 [12:34] <Grim_Reaper> Both uninstalling minecraft and downloading an actual sound driver for your computer?
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#751 [12:35] <rhysjone45_> what can i do now ?
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#756 [12:43] <MarkAOlson> can anyone help me with ICBM mod?
#757 [12:43] <Toad> Maybe
#758 [12:43] <Toad> what is the issue
#759 [12:44] <Denizen> #risucraft
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#761 [12:44] <Toad> people in #risucraft are very rude
#762 [12:45] <Denizen> they have to talk about minecraft mods all day
#763 [12:45] <Denizen> i would get rude
#764 [12:45] <MarkAOlson> my MC had froze as a black screen after loading on the Mojang screen
#765 [12:46] <MarkAOlson> where would i get the crash report?
#766 [12:47] <lutzee> Denizen: actually #direwolf20 would be a better channel
#767 [12:47] <Denizen> MarkAOlson, have you deleted meta-inf
#768 [12:47] <lutzee> MarkAOlson: do /join #direwolf20 and ask for help there
#769 [12:47] <MarkAOlson> yes
#770 [12:47] <MarkAOlson> thank you
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#772 [12:48] <lutzee> Infact Denizen, the author is in #direwolf20 ;)
#773 [12:48] <Denizen> ah
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#781 [12:56] <Raphy963> Hi, now i can connect with my migrated account on minecraft.net but it say that i don't buyed the game
#782 [12:56] <Raphy963> bought the game*
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#788 [13:01] <Hjelme83> Can i ask questions about worldguard here or is there a channel for that aswell?
#789 [13:02] <FLHerne> Well, we're not obliged to support mods, and I personally don't have a clue about worldguard :P
#790 [13:02] <Hjelme83> when i do //expand 5 u, it expands by 80 blocks.. Not 5.. Why?
#791 [13:03] <FLHerne> It's quite quiet though, so you may as well ask :-)
#792 [13:03] <lutzee> #bukkit would be best
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#794 [13:04] <FLHerne> Probably measuring in chunks ;-)
#795 [13:04] <FLHerne> 80/5=16
#796 [13:04] <Hjelme83> So is the minimum 16?
#797 [13:04] <Hjelme83> or is there a comfig for that
#798 [13:05] <FLHerne> Dunno :P
#799 [13:06] <Hjelme83> Any idea why i dont get that fancy red border like in all the youtube videos?
#800 [13:06] <FLHerne> Nope, I've never even used Worldguard :P
#801 [13:06] <lutzee> You need to install worldeditCUI on your cluent
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#811 [13:11] <slimer> .
#812 [13:11] <slimer> .
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#814 [13:11] <Hjelme83> thank you lutzee
#815 [13:12] <NinjaKirby> Slimer, you scared me in my child hood, I hate you.
#816 [13:12] * Selbram|away is now known as Selbram
#817 [13:12] <slimer> O.O
#818 [13:12] <slimer> O.o
#819 [13:12] <NinjaKirby> :P
#820 [13:12] <slimer> >:C
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#822 [13:13] <NinjaKirby> lol, now I feel bad
#823 [13:13] <NinjaKirby> I reap what I sew
#824 [13:14] <Selbram> Hjelme83: how big was your selection before you expanded it
#825 [13:14] <lutzee> /that price/ http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=73224&vpn=N680GTX%20Lightning&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar&promoid=1393
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#827 [13:15] <raphy963> I don't have premium status with my migrated account
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#832 [13:31] <Hjelme83> Selbram: Well i figured it out now, the 16 blocks was the total ammount of blocks..
#833 [13:32] <Hjelme83> Do i put the worldedit ui files directly into plugins aswell?
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#837 [13:34] <eli> yes why is it when i log in my screen turns all black
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#839 [13:34] <Guest16470> hello?
#840 [13:34] <Selbram> Guest16470: hello?
#841 [13:34] <Guest16470> yes i have a question
#842 [13:34] <Selbram> your screen turns black
#843 [13:34] <Guest16470> yes
#844 [13:34] <Selbram> update java
#845 [13:35] <Guest16470> i did
#846 [13:35] <Selbram> when?
#847 [13:35] <Guest16470> like yesterday
#848 [13:35] <Guest16470> did like 5 times
#849 [13:35] <Selbram> what version of java are you running
#850 [13:35] <Guest16470> 7
#851 [13:35] <Guest16470> the newest i believe
#852 [13:35] <Selbram> you may want to try removing java 7 and installing java6
#853 [13:35] <Selbram> to see if that works
#854 [13:36] <Guest16470> i did that before aswell
#855 [13:36] <Selbram> Windows/Mac/Linux?
#856 [13:36] <Guest16470> windows
#857 [13:36] <Selbram> ok, remove all versions of java
#858 [13:36] <Selbram> reboot
#859 [13:37] <Selbram> reinstall the latest, test, if that does not work, remove all versions of java, install java 6 test
#860 [13:37] <Guest16470> test?
#861 [13:37] <Selbram> one of those should work
#862 [13:37] <Selbram> try to run minecraft = test
#863 [13:37] <Guest16470> i see
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#865 [13:37] <Guest16470> well i try to do that now thanks
#866 [13:37] <Selbram> no problem
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#870 [13:47] <osuka_> lol http://buttersafe.com/2008/10/02/the-threat/
#871 [13:47] <osuka_> oops
#872 [13:47] <osuka_> wrong channel, sorry q_q
#873 [13:47] <osuka_> my bad.
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#876 [13:55] <Brittney> Hello, I am unable to purcahse minecraft with my debit card, why is that
#877 [13:56] <osuka_> what's the error?
#878 [13:57] <Brittney> It says unable to process please go back to merchant
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#880 [13:57] <osuka_> paypal?
#881 [13:58] <Brittney> I had 30.00 in paypal and it wouldn't do it either and i can't find the prepaid cards anywhere
#882 [13:58] <osuka_> check if you're on the right webside
#883 [13:58] <osuka_> website*
#884 [13:58] <Brittney> minecraft.net right>
#885 [13:58] <Brittney> ?*
#886 [13:59] <osuka_> right
#887 [13:59] <Brittney> Yeah and it is driving me crazy. Is it Visa or what?
#888 [13:59] <lutzee> Brittney: Chances are your bank is blocking the payment, due to it being an international transfer, call the number on the back of your card and inform them that you are trying to make an international payment
#889 [13:59] <Brittney> Ok Thank you so muchy
#890 [14:00] <osuka_> lol
#891 [14:00] <osuka_> didn't think of that.
#892 [14:00] <osuka_> anyways, just FYI, Mojang is a swedish company
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#898 [14:15] <ninjaminer74> yo how can i get into second person third person mode
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#902 [14:16] <ninjaminer74> how do i change my first person veiw
#903 [14:16] <osuka_> F5 on windows
#904 [14:16] <osuka_> I think that's for all OSs
#905 [14:16] <ninjaminer74> and on makc
#906 [14:17] <ninjaminer74> mac
#907 [14:17] <osuka_> also, F%
#908 [14:17] <osuka_> F5
#909 [14:17] <osuka_> BUT, if you're on a laptop
#910 [14:17] <osuka_> aka macbook
#911 [14:17] <ninjaminer74> yes
#912 [14:17] <ninjaminer74> yes
#913 [14:17] <osuka_> press fn + F5
#914 [14:17] <ninjaminer74> ok i'll try
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#916 [14:18] <ninjaminer74> thanks
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#919 [14:19] <Corin> whut
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#922 [14:31] <Raphy963> Migrated account have a bug with Premium Status or what?
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#929 [14:43] <Oxymoron> I have both Java 6 and 7 installed on my Mac. Would that cause any problems with Minecraft? (Or any problems at all?)
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#932 [14:46] <Oxymoron> Anyone?
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#934 [14:48] <MarkAOlson> can someone refer me to MC forge v4.1.4 i can not seem to beable to get onto the web site http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7n.v2W1QRCUAYI1XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1NzRqdmdoBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1ZJUDA1MF8xNTQ-/SIG=12pm11vt7/EXP=1349405231/**http%3a//jenkins.minecraftforge.net%3a7070/job/forge/forge-recommended/
#935 [14:48] <lutzee> files.minecraftforge.net
#936 [14:49] <Oxymoron> Um... Hello>\?
#937 [14:49] <MarkAOlson> also did not work
#938 [14:50] <MarkAOlson> what is your question oxymoron
#939 [14:50] <lutzee> -.- http://adf.ly/673885/http://files.minecraftforge.net/minecraftforge-universal-4.1.4.298.zip
#940 [14:50] <lutzee> Oxymoron: does the game break? If not then no problems will occur
#941 [14:51] <Oxymoron> Well, I have both Java 6 and 7 on my Mac. I'm wondering if that would cause any problems with Minecraft. (Or any problems at all for anything)
#942 [14:51] <MarkAOlson> thank you lutzee my pc is going AWAL
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#944 [14:51] <MarkAOlson> AWOL by bad
#945 [14:51] <lutzee> MarkAOlson: do you even know what A.W.O.L stands for? :Z
#946 [14:53] <Oxymoron> No one?
#947 [14:53] <lutzee> Oxymoron: does the game break? If not then no problems will occur
#948 [14:54] <Oxymoron> Well, I can't play it yet because I lack a premium account.
#949 [14:54] <Oxymoron> So I wouldn't know.
#950 [14:54] <lutzee> ?? demo
#951 [14:54] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#952 [14:54] <MarkAOlson> Absent with out leave
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#954 [14:54] <MarkAOlson> lutzee i was in the army
#955 [14:54] <ninjow1902> hi
#956 [14:54] <ninjow1902> i got a error
#957 [14:54] <ninjow1902> and i need to solve it
#958 [14:55] <ninjow1902> any 1 can help me?
#959 [14:55] <lutzee> ninjow1902: mind sharing the error?
#960 [14:55] <ninjow1902> yes
#961 [14:55] <lutzee> We can't help without knowing what we need to help with
#962 [14:55] <lutzee> If its a large amount of text use pastebin.com
#963 [14:55] <ninjow1902> i get the too many faild logins error but i didnt log in or something
#964 [14:56] <lutzee> Er your account seems to be on a login cooldown, i suggest changing your password while you wait
#965 [14:56] <ninjow1902> ok and how long does i t takew?
#966 [14:56] <lutzee> I am acompletely unsure what the cooldown time is
#967 [14:57] <ninjow1902> ok so i changed pw but this afternoon i had same error
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#972 [15:01] <MarkAOlson> MC test 1
#973 [15:01] <ninjow1902> if i try to log on does the time something lik eexpand?
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#975 [15:02] <lutzee> ninjow1902: i sugest finding something else to do for 12 hours
#976 [15:02] <MarkAOlson> ok how do i install forge v4.1.4
#977 [15:02] <MarkAOlson> ok how do i install forge v4.1.4
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#979 [15:03] <lutzee> copy the contents of the zip into the minecraft jar using a program like winrar/7zip and then delete the META_INF folder.
#980 [15:03] <ninjow1902> oh man does it take so long-.-
#981 [15:03] <MarkAOlson> and with modloader?
#982 [15:04] <lutzee> MarkAOlson: you don't need modloader
#983 [15:04] <MarkAOlson> ok
#984 [15:05] <MarkAOlson> lutzee: with ICBM do i need modloader or just forge?
#985 [15:05] <lutzee> just forge
#986 [15:05] <MarkAOlson> thanks for all who helped me
#987 [15:05] <lutzee> Oh... and universal electricity
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#989 [15:05] <lutzee> which is the same author
#990 [15:05] <MarkAOlson> where do i put UE?
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#992 [15:08] <Hjelme83> after i add WorldEditUI into minecraft jar it crashes.. (i deleted meta) and it say in the crash log mod_WorldEditCUI : Loaded (minecraft.jar) What did i do wrong?
#993 [15:08] <ninjow1902> lutzee?
#994 [15:09] <lutzee> Hjelme83: you installed modloader?
#995 [15:09] <MarkAOlson> thank you all
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#997 [15:09] <ninjow1902> i tried re logging in minecraft.net but now i cant even log in there
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#999 [15:10] <Hjelme83> ye im a dork, let me get on that lutzee
#1000 [15:10] <ninjow1902> oh yeh
#1001 [15:10] <ninjow1902> minecraft is working again
#1002 [15:11] <ninjow1902> thnx lutzee
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#1005 [15:11] <Hjelme83> what would people do without you lutzee ?
#1006 [15:12] <lutzee> Wait for someone else to answer.
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#1008 [15:13] <Hjelme83> -.-
#1009 [15:14] <lutzee> I'm not the only helper here, there are plenty of other people, i just happen to be arround
#1010 [15:14] <Hjelme83> is it suppose to take a while when you start the client with modloader files the first time?
#1011 [15:15] <lutzee> depends, it can take a little longer
#1012 [15:15] <Hjelme83> ill give ith a while then
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#1014 [15:15] <Hjelme83> its stuck on Checking for update on spoutcraft
#1015 [15:17] <Hjelme83> ok let me double check.. Is there another modloader for tekkit?
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#1017 [15:18] <neverest> Hi guys, I just started playing on my brother's server. For some reason, when I chop down a tree or try to mine something, the block just auto-reappears. This does not happen for other users.
#1018 [15:18] <neverest> Plugins are: Lockette, ColorMe, WorldEdit, SafeCreeper, TreeAssist, BiomeEdit, Essentials, EssentialsSpawn
#1019 [15:19] <lutzee> neverest: you are in the spawn area that is protected, move like 50 blocks in soem direction
#1020 [15:19] <neverest> We thought it emight be because spawn was protected, but it happens aanywhere. Any ideas on which plugins cause this?
#1021 [15:19] <lutzee> essentials spawn can add a large protected area, if its your brother ask for OP if he doesn't mind
#1022 [15:20] <neverest> He kinda does. But why can other players build withotu any issues then? Build and/or mine.
#1023 [15:22] <neverest> Any ideas?
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#1030 [15:32] <neverest> Hello again
#1031 [15:33] <neverest> I just reinstalled the game and rebooted my PC. No luck.
#1032 [15:33] <lutzee> It's to do with permissions on the server.
#1033 [15:34] <neverest> Still whenever I try to mine something, it automatically reappears
#1034 [15:34] <neverest> Ok... any iead why this does not affect other users? Or which plugin it is?
#1035 [15:34] <lutzee> neverest: no, your brother needs to try find out by removing plugins until the problem is found
#1036 [15:35] <neverest> is there a way to list permissions of all members?
#1037 [15:35] <neverest> or rather, users
#1038 [15:37] <neverest> :x
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#1043 [15:49] <Leiche> Hi, Why cant I see the customization buttons on the new snapshot :I?
#1044 [15:49] <Leiche> oh wait
#1045 [15:50] <Leiche> nevermind I just saw the topic
#1046 [15:50] <Leiche> cya!
#1047 [15:50] <Leiche> cya!
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#1054 [16:07] <imachrismoose> My brother wanted to show me a Minecraft Snapshot (12w39a) on my machine, and set it up. He tried setting it up on "Large Biomes", but it got stuck on the "Building Terrain" screen. I decided to close it, clicked the "X" in the upper right corner, and it took a few minutes to close. After that, I reinstalled Minecraft, logged in, and just got a black screen. It didn't show the Mojang splash screen at all, and it's not doing anything
#1055 [16:08] <osuka_> try a force update
#1056 [16:08] <osuka_> ?forceupdate
#1057 [16:08] <osuka_> is that the factoid?
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#1059 [16:08] <imachrismoose> I said, I tried that.
#1060 [16:08] <osuka_> well you said you reinstalled it
#1061 [16:08] <osuka_> I'm not really sure what you meant
#1062 [16:08] <imachrismoose> I thought they were the same thing?
#1063 [16:09] <osuka_> it depends on what you mean by reinstalling
#1064 [16:09] <osuka_> what exactly did you do?
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#1066 [16:09] <imachrismoose> Well, at first I just tried to do a normal "force update". That didn't work.
#1067 [16:10] <osuka_> and then?
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#1069 [16:10] <imachrismoose> Then, I decided to see if deleting the hidden folder ".minecraft" and then force updating would do the trick, to no avail.
#1070 [16:10] <osuka_> hidden folder?
#1071 [16:11] <imachrismoose> So, now I'm here.
#1072 [16:11] <osuka_> not supposed to be hidden
#1073 [16:11] <osuka_> not on windows
#1074 [16:11] <osuka_> are you running Linux>
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#1076 [16:11] <osuka_> ?
#1077 [16:11] <imachrismoose> Linux, yes. Ubuntu.
#1078 [16:11] <osuka_> well that's relevant
#1079 [16:11] <osuka_> so you're actually running the .jar?
#1080 [16:11] <imachrismoose> Sorry, I forgot there were windows users here. My bad!
#1081 [16:12] <imachrismoose> Yes, the .jar is what I'm using.
#1082 [16:12] <PermissionDenied> I'm a Debian user.
#1083 [16:12] <osuka_> lol
#1084 [16:12] <osuka_> rebooting
#1085 [16:12] <PermissionDenied> Also, Minecraft runs fine here.
#1086 [16:12] <osuka_> did you try it?
#1087 [16:13] <imachrismoose> I forgot to mention that. It started yesterday, and in that time, I did, in fact, reboot the computer.
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#1089 [16:14] <osuka_> ok
#1090 [16:14] <osuka_> how did your brother set it up?
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#1094 [16:17] <yehonatankatz> Hi
#1095 [16:17] <yehonatankatz> I am running MineCraft but I see a white page
#1096 [16:17] <imachrismoose> He downloaded the "Minecraft.jar" snapshot, went into the ".minecraft" folder, replaced the "Minecraft Backup.jar" with the normal "Minecraft.jar" (which he renamed "Minecraft Backup.jar"), replaced THAT with the "MInecraft.jar" snapshot, and then began play.
#1097 [16:18] <yehonatankatz> I re installed the JAVA 10 times and reinstalled the minecraft 20 times
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#1099 [16:19] <yehonatankatz> What ?
#1100 [16:19] <yehonatankatz> Can anyone help ?
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#1102 [16:21] <yehonatankatz> What should I do in order not to have a white screen on my JAVA applet screen ?
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#1112 [16:31] <raphy963> Hello
#1113 [16:32] <imachrismoose> I have to go. My system did an update, and it needs to do a reboot to implement one of them. Bye! :)
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#1115 [16:36] <raphy963> I can connect on minecraft.bet but it said that i'm not premium but i bought the game
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#1124 [16:44] <raphy963> I can connect on minecraft.net but it said that i'm not premium but i bought the game
#1125 [16:45] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
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#1127 [16:46] <imachrismoose> Hi, it's me again.
#1128 [16:46] <imachrismoose> My computer did it's updates, so now I can continue describing how I need help.
#1129 [16:48] <imachrismoose> After my computer started up again, I decided to try to REALLY reinstall the game, so I deleted the .jar file as well as the .minecraft folder. Then I went to the Minecraft.net website, and downloaded a new copy.
#1130 [16:49] <imachrismoose> I started it up, like normal, logged in, and it did it's self update stuff. Then it did the black screen again.
#1131 [16:49] <DiskDaemon> a crash report should be able to help tell us why http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1132 [16:49] <DiskDaemon> When you get the results, please paste them to pastebin.com
#1133 [16:49] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#1134 [16:49] <imachrismoose> I decided to look INSIDE the .minecraft folder, to see if there was anythng wrong there. Guess what? THERE WAS NOTHING THERE.
#1135 [16:49] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1142 [17:06] <mincrafter743> my one world is very laggy on my computer but my other world isnt how do i fix that
#1143 [17:08] <MarkAOlson> ICBM problem with some of the items
#1144 [17:08] <osuka_> imachrismoose: lol check if it isn't read-only
#1145 [17:08] <lutzee> MarkAOlson: even though i helped you earlier this channel isn't for mod support, return to #sirewolf20 ans ask there
#1146 [17:09] <mincrafter743> answer mee please
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#1149 [17:10] <MarkAOlson> thank you lutzee
#1150 [17:11] <MarkAOlson> does not look like anyone is on
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#1152 [17:14] <lutzee> MarkAOlson: oops i derped #direwolf20 sorry
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#1155 [17:15] <MarkAOlson> lutzee it happens we are human
#1156 [17:16] <LocoLoco> Hi guys :) is there somebody who can help me with "Migrated account" Problems? Can't find anything helpful in forum :-/
#1157 [17:16] <LocoLoco> or can someone give me a link to the official support?
#1158 [17:17] <lutzee> LocoLoco: What is the problem?
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#1160 [17:18] <LocoLoco> i cant login in my minecraft/minecraft.net account, minecraft tells me that my account migrated and i need my e-mail to login
#1161 [17:19] <lutzee> Then use your email to log in.
#1162 [17:19] <LocoLoco> it don't work
#1163 [17:19] <LocoLoco> i tried
#1164 [17:19] <lutzee> Are you able to log into your email account?
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#1166 [17:20] <LocoLoco> yes, at minecraf.net i can login with it but the profile has no minecraft account
#1167 [17:21] <LocoLoco> sorry for my basic english i hope i am understandable
#1168 [17:21] <lutzee> Um, you aren't understanding me, are you able to log into your email, on your email providers website?
#1169 [17:22] <LocoLoco> oh yes
#1170 [17:22] <lutzee> Check you still can.
#1171 [17:22] <LocoLoco> btw when im try to verify my email with my account minecraft tells me my account dont exist
#1172 [17:23] <lutzee> Oh... right
#1173 [17:23] <lutzee> Re register
#1174 [17:24] <lutzee> You should still be able to use the same nickname you wanted
#1175 [17:24] <LocoLoco> how do you mean this?
#1176 [17:24] <lutzee> sign up for a new account
#1177 [17:24] <LocoLoco> i did register my email at mojang and minecraft i guess
#1178 [17:25] <lutzee> If it doesn't exit, then well, it doesn't exist
#1179 [17:25] <LocoLoco> but its like an empty profile
#1180 [17:25] <LocoLoco> but how can it disapear? i own the game about an half year
#1181 [17:25] <LocoLoco> this is the first problem like this
#1182 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> LocoLoco: What is your minecraft username?
#1183 [17:26] <LocoLoco> like i said i never migrated it, it suddenly shows this failure
#1184 [17:26] <lutzee> Half a year O.o er okay
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#1186 [17:26] * lutzee though he registered in that pareiod where registrering wasnt actually registering people
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#1187 [17:27] <LocoLoco> klogott
#1188 [17:27] <DiskDaemon> !paid klogott
#1189 [17:27] <LocoLoco> !paid klogott
#1190 [17:27] <lutzee> ;haspaid klogott
#1191 [17:27] <WugBot> klogott has NOT paid for minecraft.
#1192 [17:27] <LocoLoco> i did
#1193 [17:28] <valium> LIAR! PIRATE! THIEF!
#1194 [17:28] <valium> ahem
#1195 [17:28] <valium> j/k
#1196 [17:28] <LocoLoco> i own the code from transaction
#1197 [17:28] <DiskDaemon> ;haspaid klogott
#1198 [17:28] <WugBot> klogott has NOT paid for minecraft.
#1199 [17:28] <DiskDaemon> LocoLoco: This article may eb relevant for you then - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
#1200 [17:28] <LocoLoco> thats confusing
#1201 [17:29] <lutzee> LocoLoco: where did you buy the game?
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#1203 [17:29] <LocoLoco> a friend of me did it with paypal
#1204 [17:29] <lutzee> Do you know what site he bought it on?
#1205 [17:29] <DiskDaemon> LocoLoco: Please fully read the article, and then follow the instructions that it gives you
#1206 [17:30] <LocoLoco> ok afk for a moment
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#1209 [17:33] <LocoLoco> diskdeamon do you know what they mean with "subject"?
#1210 [17:33] <LocoLoco> confuses me a bit
#1211 [17:34] <LocoLoco> oh @lutzee he bought it on minecraft.net i guess, cant ask him now he's ill for a couple of weeks
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#1213 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> subject?
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#1216 [17:36] <LocoLoco> yes i fill a formular and they ask me about and "subject - required" and a "message - required"
#1217 [17:36] <DiskDaemon> Oh, on the email form - when they receive the email, that subject line is what they see that summarises what’s in the email.
#1218 [17:36] <raphy963> Buggy when i buy minecraft, funny =_=
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#1221 [17:37] <LocoLoco> oh ok, so i should write "My Account is no longer Premium?
#1222 [17:37] <DiskDaemon> LocoLoco: Write your message first, and then after you have finished writing that, you’ll have a better idea of what the subject line should be
#1223 [17:37] <raphy963> YOu bought minecraft on mojang or on minecraft.net
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#1225 [17:37] <LocoLoco> Ok
#1226 [17:38] <LocoLoco> I hope my english is enough for a letter
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#1228 [17:39] <OB> I am trying to buy Minecraft for my two sons. The first purchase went OK, but for the second I keep getting the message that I have "exceeded the maximum number of transactions for this Merchant in the past 48 hours." Does anyone know a way around this issue?
#1229 [17:40] <raphy963> Different payment method?
#1230 [17:40] <osuka_> either actually wait 48 hours
#1231 [17:40] <DiskDaemon> OB: Wait 48 hours
#1232 [17:40] <osuka_> or you choose a different payment method
#1233 [17:40] <lutzee> OB sounds like your bank blocking it, try using paypal
#1234 [17:40] <osuka_> or talk to the bank, or credit card company, whatever is it
#1235 [17:40] <raphy963> Make a fight between your 2 sons to know who will have the account first
#1236 [17:40] <osuka_> OB: what's the payment method?
#1237 [17:41] <osuka_> raphy963: lol
#1238 [17:41] <raphy963> Can i make a bet?
#1239 [17:41] <osuka_> also, OB, if you're actually making the fight, let us know who won :3
#1240 [17:41] <raphy963> Take us some picture
#1241 [17:41] <osuka_> well if you really need to wait, they can use the same account for singleplayer.
#1242 [17:42] <osuka_> also, pics
#1243 [17:42] <OB> Thanks - tried using different pymt methods, but NG. I think it must be because both are coming from the same IP address?
#1244 [17:42] <osuka_> I'll give the winner diamonds
#1245 [17:42] <raphy963> No, i bought 2 minecraft account the same day
#1246 [17:42] <osuka_> OB: which ones did you use?
#1247 [17:42] <raphy963> But i used paypal
#1248 [17:42] <raphy963> You shoul try a credit card but with paypal
#1249 [17:42] <osuka_> OB: which payment methods did you try to use?
#1250 [17:43] <OB> I tried 3 different credit cards
#1251 [17:43] <raphy963> Same credit card, with paypal but use the credit card
#1252 [17:43] <osuka_> OB: are they the same flag (e.g. Visa, MasterCard, American Express, etc.)
#1253 [17:43] <lutzee> Okay it's moneybookers enforcing the block, paypal should work fine
#1254 [17:44] <OB> Yes, there were - tried using AmEx, but when you get to that page after selecting AmEx, the page doesn't actually accept AmEx after all
#1255 [17:44] <raphy963> Use PayPal!
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#1257 [17:45] <osuka_> I'd say either PayPal, direct bank transactions, or you wait 48 hours.
#1258 [17:45] <osuka_> Also if you're waiting, actually make the fight
#1259 [17:45] <raphy963> Yes
#1260 [17:45] <osuka_> and let us know who won it
#1261 [17:45] <raphy963> $20 on the first son
#1262 [17:45] <osuka_> I paid $10 heh
#1263 [17:46] <raphy963> Paypal or FIGHT?
#1264 [17:46] <osuka_> paypal and fight?
#1265 [17:46] <osuka_> yes, yes....
#1266 [17:46] <raphy963> OR
#1267 [17:47] <osuka_> and*
#1268 [17:47] <LocoLoco> Sended the email, thank you diskdeamon and lutzee for your help
#1269 [17:47] <osuka_> you be welcome
#1270 [17:47] <LocoLoco> wishing you a nice evening
#1271 [17:47] <osuka_> come back whenever you need anything
#1272 [17:47] <osuka_> except for tacos
#1273 [17:47] <osuka_> we don't sell these anymore
#1274 [17:47] <osuka_> after that incident...
#1275 [17:48] <LocoLoco> i like bacon
#1276 [17:48] <raphy963> we have burritos
#1277 [17:48] <osuka_> OK, good evening to you too mate. Have fun with your Minecraft :3
#1278 [17:48] <LocoLoco> ;)
#1279 [17:48] <raphy963> i like turtles
#1280 [17:48] <osuka_> well
#1281 [17:48] <osuka_> we have taco-flavoured burritos
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#1284 [17:48] <osuka_> but people argue these taste like dirt.
#1285 [17:48] <LocoLoco> ok im off here bye guys
#1286 [17:48] <osuka_> Never ate those (thankfully)
#1287 [17:48] <osuka_> see ya mate.
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#1289 [17:49] <raphy963> No fight?
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#1291 [17:50] <jon_> where did i die
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#1293 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#1294 [17:52] * GreyVulpine prods dopeghoti.
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#1298 [17:59] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine
#1299 [17:59] <Grim_Reaper> "Topic is 'Rules: http://is.gd/zB1w9I | For account issues see http://is.gd/G3zPKi | Minecraft client, server are 1.3.2 | We do not support Classic or pre-releases "
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#1301 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
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#1303 [18:02] <Grim_Reaper> At the end part.
#1304 [18:02] <Grim_Reaper> nvm
#1305 [18:03] <lutzee> Theres a snapshot factoid in the index, so he was asuming it is still there
#1306 [18:03] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
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#1308 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Oh, sorry, I was trying to update the snapshot factoid, but Vox isn't here.
#1309 [18:04] <lutzee> Ohhh
#1310 [18:05] <lutzee> VoxelHead.reboot();
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#1316 [18:12] <Customer> ok look im having problems with putting survival games permission nodes into group manager because it only seems to work when the player is opped
#1317 [18:12] <PermissionDenied> what permissions plugin are you using
#1318 [18:13] <Customer> essentials group manager
#1319 [18:13] <Customer> i have also used pex and yapp
#1320 [18:14] <DiskDaemon> permission nodes? pex? yapp? What weird universe is this?
#1321 [18:15] <Customer> the universe of server admining its a pain in the @$$
#1322 [18:16] <Customer> so PermissionDenied do you know anything that can help
#1323 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> What a hellish business that is - all the best
#1324 [18:16] <Customer> lol
#1325 [18:16] <PermissionDenied> hmm
#1326 [18:17] <PermissionDenied> I'm not into that type of stuff
#1327 [18:17] <Customer> but can you figure it out
#1328 [18:17] <PermissionDenied> yes
#1329 [18:17] <PermissionDenied> what plugin are you using
#1330 [18:17] <Customer> essentials group manager
#1331 [18:18] <Customer> that is the plugin
#1332 [18:18] <Customer> it comes with essentials
#1333 [18:18] <PermissionDenied> the game plugin
#1334 [18:18] <Customer> o survival games
#1335 [18:20] <PermissionDenied> ?
#1336 [18:21] <Customer> thats the name of the plugin
#1337 [18:22] <osuka_> well then go talk to the plugin dev
#1338 [18:22] <osuka_> that's most probably the plugin.
#1339 [18:22] <Customer> i have no way of getting in touch with them
#1340 [18:22] <Customer> i looked but i couldn't find anything
#1341 [18:23] <osuka_> smells like the plugin's code to em
#1342 [18:23] <osuka_> me*
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#1350 [18:46] <Customer> it works in general i can use it just fine but the player needs to be opped to enter the arenas and stuff but people have been telling me just use a permissions plugin
#1351 [18:55] <Customer> so i guess im barking up the wrong tree with trying to get help with this here
#1352 [18:56] <lutzee> er bukkit do /join #bukkit and ask there
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#1359 [19:20] <lutzee> Denizen: did you just post a build on pcpartpicker? :p
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#1361 [19:20] <Denizen> lutzee: indeed.
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#1363 [19:21] <lutzee> I'm reading it, looks like a decent thought out build
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#1365 [19:21] <jmmurp2> How do I uninstall minecraft?
#1366 [19:21] <lutzee> ?? win/reinst
#1367 [19:22] <lutzee> ogh
#1368 [19:22] <lutzee> ;reinstall
#1369 [19:22] <lutzee> :<
#1370 [19:22] <lutzee> jmmurp2: press the windows key + R type in %appdata% and press okay
#1371 [19:23] <jmmurp2> Okay did that.
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#1373 [19:23] <lutzee> there should be a .minecraft folder there, deleting that will remove it, but will also delete any saves, if you want to back them up upen the .minecraft folder and copy the saves directory to a backup loacation
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#1375 [19:23] <jmmurp2> There aren't any folders in the .minecraft folder
#1376 [19:24] <lutzee> um
#1377 [19:24] <jmmurp2> It's completely empty.
#1378 [19:24] <lutzee> then it's not installed O.o
#1379 [19:24] <lutzee> unless you've been playing stuff like tekkit
#1380 [19:24] <lutzee> or used a custom launcher
#1381 [19:24] <jmmurp2> I feel like I fucked up somewhere lol
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#1386 [19:26] <Raphy963> Marc replied my 2 October support ticket, :D
#1387 [19:26] <Raphy963> 2 day delay!!!!!
#1388 [19:27] <jmmurp2> Okay, I've tried installing minecraft multiple times and it opens up the game client. It doesn't update the news nor does it display the html code. All it says is "Loading Update News" in real big gray official letters. It never actually loads as far as I can tell, of course I haven't waited that long anyway. I go to login and it says I can't connect to minecraft.net, and I can't even play offline because it's not installed
#1389 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> Some emails get filtered out more rapidly depending on what they relate to
#1390 [19:27] <Raphy963> oh
#1391 [19:27] <Raphy963> But, this is a good news
#1392 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> jmmurp2: I believe that I heard from you earlier that this is on a modded or patched environment?
#1393 [19:27] <jmmurp2> I do have a .minecraft folder but it is completely empty.
#1394 [19:28] <jmmurp2> There are no mods.
#1395 [19:28] <jmmurp2> But what exactly does patching do?
#1396 [19:28] <lutzee> By the sounds of it your antivirus program is blocking like everything to do with minecraft
#1397 [19:28] <lutzee> jmmurp2: nothing you need to worry about
#1398 [19:28] <jmmurp2> Okay, and how do I stop my antivirus program from blocking everything?
#1399 [19:29] <lutzee> Well what antivirus program do you use?
#1400 [19:30] <jmmurp2> I believe McAfee.
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#1402 [19:30] <Raphy963> Run as admin
#1403 [19:30] <jmmurp2> My account on my laptop is an admin?
#1404 [19:30] <mail> I just purchased minecraft and it willnot download
#1405 [19:31] <DiskDaemon> mail: Are you having trouble downloading the minecraft.exe file from the minecraft.net websitee?
#1406 [19:31] <mail> yes
#1407 [19:31] <Raphy963> wait
#1408 [19:31] <Raphy963> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1409 [19:31] <lutzee> jmmurp2: disable your firewall and try again
#1410 [19:32] <lutzee> Which is part of mcafee btw.
#1411 [19:32] <DiskDaemon> mail: What precisely is the problem that you are having with it?
#1412 [19:33] <jmmurp2> I've somewhat looked into the firewall stuff, but I have no clue how to disable it.
#1413 [19:33] <mail> When I press the link to download it brings me to the game sceen...I pick single player and world but it won't go into the game.
#1414 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> mail: Does that occur when you create a new world too?
#1415 [19:34] <mail> it goes to white screen or the second time it went into the game for 2 seconds then stopped and went out
#1416 [19:34] <mail> yes
#1417 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> mail: Let’s see if we can get more more information about what’s going wrong then. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1418 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> mail: When you get the log of what’s happening, paste it to pastebin
#1419 [19:35] <DiskDaemon> ??> mail pastebin
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#1423 [19:37] <jmmurp2> http://i.imgur.com/HVkED.jpg This is what I get when I open it up, and when I try and log on: http://i.imgur.com/xxalv.jpg
#1424 [19:37] <lutzee> odd
#1425 [19:37] <lutzee> Also have your heard of print screen? :<
#1426 [19:37] <jmmurp2> I'm not that tech-savvy if you haven't noticed haha.
#1427 [19:37] <plasmabrain> It's my impression that the worlds you create in single player are not tied to your account, but the machine AND location where you make them. Is this accurate?
#1428 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#1429 [19:38] <lutzee> plasmabrain: they are stored locally on your pc
#1430 [19:38] <jmmurp2> That is correct.
#1431 [19:38] <lutzee> ;folder
#1432 [19:38] <plasmabrain> Because I've tried to do the same thing 4 times now, but due to moving and getting a new compy, I've been unable to achieve my goal.
#1433 [19:38] <lutzee> ;folders
#1434 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> plasmabrain: They are local to the computer user account that you are logged in to on your computer.
#1435 [19:38] <lutzee> WugBot confuses me :<
#1436 [19:39] <plasmabrain> That's what I thought, but I moved and the worlds I had created before are just simply not there.
#1437 [19:40] <jmmurp2> How do I disable my firewall?
#1438 [19:41] <Wug> :folders > lutzee
#1439 [19:41] <Wug> :folder > lutzee
#1440 [19:41] <WugBot> lutzee: (folder) Minecraft folder locations -- Windows: %appdata%\.minecraft -- Mac: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft -- Linux: ~/.minecraft
#1441 [19:41] <lutzee> Thanks
#1442 [19:43] <jmmurp2> Okay I just turned off my firewall. Should I just attempt to download minecraft.exe from the website again?
#1443 [19:45] <lutzee> the ony you have should be fine
#1444 [19:46] <jmmurp2> I opened it back up and it works! I actually connected and everything seems okay. Thank you guys so much!
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#1446 [19:46] <lutzee> jmmurp2: okay
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#1448 [19:47] <lutzee> you should re enable it and find how to add a rule to allow minecraft.exe and java.exe -
#1449 [19:47] <lutzee> -.-
#1450 [19:47] <lutzee> Now we have a kid running arround with windows firewall :<
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#1453 [19:48] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday
#1454 [19:49] <ChumChum921> hello
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#1456 [19:52] <ChumChum921> guys
#1457 [19:52] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday
#1458 [19:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday
#1459 [19:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday
#1460 [19:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday
#1461 [19:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday
#1462 [19:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday
#1463 [19:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday
#1464 [19:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday
#1465 [19:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday
#1466 [19:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday
#1467 [19:54] <ChumChum921> [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working
#1468 [19:54] <ChumChum921> [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working
#1469 [19:54] <ChumChum921> [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working
#1470 [19:54] <ChumChum921> [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working
#1471 [19:54] <ChumChum921> [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working it was working fine yesturday [16:54] <ChumChum921> Guys my minecraft server is not working
#1472 [19:55] <Orc> For some reason I think that is against the rules.
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#1478 [20:01] <lutzee> Orc: it is no voxelhead so no auto quiet, and i wasn't concentrating :<
#1479 [20:02] <Eddie> Grrr
#1480 [20:02] <Eddie> stupid people.
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#1482 [20:02] <Orc> Well, now you can get your revenge.
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#1484 [20:02] <bddyisaac1110> i need help, i cant sign in with my user name or password HELP
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#1486 [20:03] <bddyisaac1110> i got the verify email thing and it wont work.
#1487 [20:03] <bddyisaac1110> anyone???
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#1489 [20:07] <Eddie> Ask for help, immediately leave.
#1490 [20:07] <Eddie> Alright.
#1491 [20:08] <Orc> heh
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#1494 [20:12] <Joshiephilipe> I just purchaced minecraft and downloaded it and tried to open it. it came up with a screen that said "minecraft is dammaged you should put it in the trash.
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#1496 [20:15] <lutzee> ??> Joshiephilipe mac/gatekeeper
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#1500 [20:22] <sonicmario9941> Hey guys i was here a few days ago and i was told that i only had half the memory needed. I've uninstalled several space consuming programs and i still cant get it to run. What else can i do?
#1501 [20:22] <sonicmario9941> by it i mean minecraft
#1502 [20:22] <lutzee> ??> sonicmario9941 win/dxdiag
#1503 [20:23] <sonicmario9941> give you the txt?
#1504 [20:23] <lutzee> Gah yeah if you have a dxdiag report pastebin it
#1505 [20:24] <lutzee> Generally in computing memory refers to Random Access Memory (Or RAM for short) and HDD memory is refered to as storage space
#1506 [20:24] <lutzee> You probably have too little of the RAM kind
#1507 [20:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> where on earth is voxelhead
#1508 [20:25] <Joshiephilipe> so what do i do in gatekeeper
#1509 [20:25] <lutzee> WhereIsMySpoon: died, need dopeghoti to reboot him
#1510 [20:25] <lutzee> Joshiephilipe: you need to disable it
#1511 [20:25] <Joshiephilipe> how
#1512 [20:25] <lutzee> Joshiephilipe: here http://answers.uchicago.edu/page.php?id=25481
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#1514 [20:26] <sonicmario9941> http://pastebin.com/2iGaJ3xm
#1515 [20:26] <sonicmario9941> http://pastebin.com/2iGaJ3xm
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#1517 [20:26] <lutzee> ugh yeah... sonicmario9941 gnerally netbook PC's are just too underpowered to run minecraft
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#1519 [20:27] <Joshiephilipe> Then what
#1520 [20:27] <lutzee> Joshiephilipe: run the App
#1521 [20:27] <sonicmario9941> But i dont understand.. i was able to run minecraft perfectly on the same pc
#1522 [20:27] <Joshiephilipe> thank you
#1523 [20:28] <Haplo> I have a premium account that I have logged on before. Password has not changed and I get error message saying "Too many failed logins" on the first try. Anyone encountered this before?
#1524 [20:28] <Red_M> sonicmario9941: java is a really shit language for performance generally.... Minecraft is made in java....
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#1526 [20:28] <Red_M> Haplo: maybe stop trying for like a day and play tomorrow?
#1527 [20:28] <lutzee> sonicmario9941: game update may change performance requirements
#1528 [20:29] <sonicmario9941> ^
#1529 [20:29] <sonicmario9941> I installed the snapshot and it worked before
#1530 [20:29] <Haplo> It was the first try. I haven't tried after that. Don't know what changed. It worked yesterday.
#1531 [20:29] <sonicmario9941> its been broken ever since
#1532 [20:30] <Red_M> Haplo: someone might be trying to crack your password by trying every single combination of password.... alert support
#1533 [20:30] <Red_M> and when i say support not us in #minecrafthelp like as in the proper MC support
#1534 [20:30] <Haplo> I figured it might be that. Thanks.
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#1536 [20:31] <Red_M> SYSADMIN AWAY!
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#1539 [20:32] <sonicmario9941> So until i get more RAM no mc?
#1540 [20:32] <Red_M> sonicmario9941: or you could go play the stable releases like a normal person
#1541 [20:32] <sonicmario9941> i did,
#1542 [20:33] <sonicmario9941> The pre release didnt work so i downgraded to current but still fails
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#1545 [20:35] <Red_M> sonicmario9941: well something has changed about your system since you last played. what ever the change is it has affected the preformance of your machine.
#1546 [20:36] <lutzee> VoxelHead: <3
#1547 [20:36] <sonicmario9941> Im sorry if im being complicated, but is there anything i can do for now?
#1548 [20:38] <Red_M> sonicmario9941: unless you can revert your changes. no nothing. also upgrading your RAM size might not give you the desired effect you want here...
#1549 [20:39] <sonicmario9941> how can i revert
#1550 [20:39] <lutzee> netbooks are not built for gaming on, get a proper computer, even some laptops can be underpowred
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#1552 [20:40] <sonicmario9941> this is a desktop
#1553 [20:40] <lutzee> What.
#1554 [20:41] <lutzee> You have an intel atom CPU in a desktop O>o
#1555 [20:41] <sonicmario9941> Compaq
#1556 [20:41] <Red_M> sonicmario9941: what is the lowest score on your windows rating
#1557 [20:41] <sonicmario9941> How do i check
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#1559 [20:42] <Red_M> right click on my computer
#1560 [20:42] <Red_M> properties
#1561 [20:42] <Red_M> and it should -- wait you are on win 7 right?
#1562 [20:42] <sonicmario9941> xp
#1563 [20:42] <Red_M> oh
#1564 [20:42] <Red_M> then you cant
#1565 [20:43] <sonicmario9941> aw. oh well.
#1566 [20:43] <Red_M> i would recommend ether upgrading your parts of your computer
#1567 [20:43] <Red_M> eg. CPU, Graphics, HDD, RAM
#1568 [20:43] <Red_M> or buying a new one
#1569 [20:44] <lutzee> mITX case, i'm not surprised
#1570 [20:44] <lutzee> DDR2
#1571 [20:44] <sonicmario9941> I intend on getting a gaming laptop for christmas so thats the best choice for now.
#1572 [20:44] <Red_M> now excuse me i have to go fix a few that are annoying some of my co worker at work
#1573 [20:44] <Red_M> also DDR2 RAM sucks
#1574 [20:44] <Red_M> get DDR3 already
#1575 [20:45] <lutzee> sonicmario9941: imho that PC is as good as a doorstop
#1576 [20:45] <Red_M> its damn cheap
#1577 [20:46] <lutzee> stuff worth saving from that PC are the peripherals so keyboard mouse and monitor
#1578 [20:46] <sonicmario9941> heh. Well thanks for your help
#1579 [20:46] <lutzee> 10 base T only lan port ._.
#1580 [20:46] <Red_M> i can give you a parts list i have of a recent computer i built that runs just about anything
#1581 [20:46] <lutzee> thats like
#1582 [20:46] <sonicmario9941> can i get it?
#1583 [20:47] <lutzee> http://pcpartpicker.com/b/xP3
#1584 [20:47] <lutzee> My beauty
#1585 [20:47] <Red_M> sonicmario9941: ill have it to you soon. i have to fix one of the servers at my work first
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#1587 [20:48] <sonicmario9941> well my email is cpsm9941@gmail
#1588 [20:49] <sonicmario9941> i gotta go
#1589 [20:49] <Red_M> alright
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#1595 [21:02] <Joshiephilipe> I just bought minecraft and after downloading it tried to open it. it came up with a box that said"Minecraft is damaged and should be put in the trash. I am on a mac
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#1597 [21:03] <lutzee> Joshiephilipe: i gave you the solution.
#1598 [21:03] <Joshiephilipe> it did not work
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#1600 [21:03] <Joshiephilipe> same box
#1601 [21:03] <lutzee> You did something wrong then.
#1602 [21:03] <Joshiephilipe> ok i will try again
#1603 [21:03] <lutzee> the link is here for referance http://answers.uchicago.edu/page.php?id=25481
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#1606 [21:04] <Red_M> lutzee: that problem is unfix-able. reason? he is on a Mac
#1607 [21:05] <lutzee> Red_M: I've not known a mac user to fail to disable it yet :<
#1608 [21:07] <Red_M> lutzee: not only are the computers crap Apple is killing their customers by limiting what they can do on them
#1609 [21:07] <Red_M> also the world would be a better place with only linux and windows
#1610 [21:07] <lutzee> My dad just bought a MBP, it took him 2 daya before he set up dual boot windows
#1611 [21:08] <Red_M> linux machines make great servers and windows machine make great clients
#1612 [21:08] <Red_M> anyway i must go
#1613 [21:08] <lutzee> (He's a photographer btw, so he's spent more on his camera than his mac)
#1614 [21:08] <Red_M> SYSADMIN AWAY!
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#1620 [21:30] <SardonicKnight> Hello?
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#1623 [21:36] <wes> my minecraft game is saying updating minecraft at the top. the done loading with the bar frozen on both the in browser and downloaded game.
#1624 [21:36] <wes> any advice?
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#1627 [21:36] <valium> theres a bar?
#1628 [21:36] <ChumChum921> guys
#1629 [21:36] <ChumChum921> ello
#1630 [21:37] <wes> yes
#1631 [21:37] <valium> wes, what bar?
#1632 [21:37] <valium> hi ChumChum921
#1633 [21:37] <ChumChum921> hi i need help
#1634 [21:37] <wes> its almost green all the way saying its fully updated but the screen always only shows that
#1635 [21:37] <valium> wheres fanboy834?
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#1637 [21:37] <valium> hmm, well wes, what OS ar eyou on?
#1638 [21:37] <wes> windows
#1639 [21:38] <ChumChum921> what do u mean
#1640 [21:38] <valium> fanboy and chum chum, its a TV show...\
#1641 [21:38] <ChumChum921> 10.75
#1642 [21:38] <valium> wes, what version?
#1643 [21:38] <wes> 7
#1644 [21:38] <ChumChum921> x lion
#1645 [21:38] <ChumChum921> 10.7.5
#1646 [21:38] <valium> okay, have you tried removing your .minecraft folder and then redownloading?
#1647 [21:39] <ChumChum921> no what do i remove
#1648 [21:39] <wes> yes as well as the server folders etc
#1649 [21:39] <valium> ChumChum921 , I am not talking to you.
#1650 [21:39] <ChumChum921> ok
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#1652 [21:40] <valium> hrmm....is this a new problem wes?
#1653 [21:41] <wes> ive never had it before
#1654 [21:41] <valium> the game, or the problem?
#1655 [21:41] <wes> problem
#1656 [21:41] <valium> has anything changed? Java update, new drivers?
#1657 [21:42] <ChumChum921> i need help
#1658 [21:42] <ChumChum921> anybody
#1659 [21:42] <wes> not that im aware of i was playing it earlier, then made a new server then it happened
#1660 [21:42] <valium> ChumChum921 what is your problem?
#1661 [21:42] <valium> wes, I'm not certain what could be the issue then
#1662 [21:43] <ChumChum921> i cant get in my server even tho it was working fine yesturday
#1663 [21:43] <ChumChum921> and my server is good its that i cant log in
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#1665 [21:44] <valium> ChumChum921 , You're not giving much to work with here.
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#1667 [21:45] <ChumChum921> ok my server was working fine yesturday but now its not up
#1668 [21:45] <valium> ChumChum921 did you update your OS recently?
#1669 [21:45] <ChumChum921> no
#1670 [21:45] <valium> okay, are you the one hosting the server?
#1671 [21:46] <ChumChum921> yes i am
#1672 [21:46] <valium> what address are you trying to connect to?
#1673 [21:47] <ChumChum921> my ip
#1674 [21:47] <valium> internal or external?
#1675 [21:47] <ChumChum921> idk
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#1677 [21:47] <ChumChum921> i went to ip chicken
#1678 [21:47] <valium> does it start with 192.168?
#1679 [21:48] <ChumChum921> and i got it from there
#1680 [21:48] <ChumChum921> no
#1681 [21:48] <ChumChum921> i have 2
#1682 [21:49] <ChumChum921> one is 127.0.0.1 76.167.250.202
#1683 [21:49] <ChumChum921> those are my 2
#1684 [21:49] <ChumChum921> the second was is down
#1685 [21:49] <valium> it's your router
#1686 [21:49] <valium> I cant connect to it.
#1687 [21:49] <ChumChum921> i no
#1688 [21:49] <ChumChum921> so what do i do
#1689 [21:50] <valium> You learn correct grammar for starts.
#1690 [21:50] <valium> then, you fix your firewall.
#1691 [21:50] <valium> and forward port 25565
#1692 [21:50] <ChumChum921> what do u mean
#1693 [21:51] <valium> but you're on a mac, so you need to forward that one too
#1694 [21:51] <ChumChum921> grammer
#1695 [21:51] <valium> grammar
#1696 [21:51] <ChumChum921> huh
#1697 [21:51] <valium> the word you want is 'you'
#1698 [21:51] <valium> not 'u'
#1699 [21:51] <ChumChum921> ok
#1700 [21:51] <ChumChum921> ..
#1701 [21:51] <Wug> ChumChum921: if you could connect before and now can't, check your router
#1702 [21:51] <Wug> your internal ip probably changed. update the router settings with the new ip
#1703 [21:52] <ChumChum921> how do i do that
#1704 [21:53] <ChumChum921> how
#1705 [21:53] <valium> you can check the manufaturers website for directions.
#1706 [21:53] <valium> possibly http://portforward.com/
#1707 [21:54] <ChumChum921> http://gyazo.com/9864b286c2e1e001a45123ca474bb846
#1708 [21:54] <Wug> you have done it before right?
#1709 [21:54] <ChumChum921> is that right
#1710 [21:54] <ChumChum921> yea
#1711 [21:55] <valium> ChumChum921 go to your system settings, then the network panel
#1712 [21:55] <valium> you should see an IP address on there.
#1713 [21:55] <valium> let me turn my mac on, so I can get a screen shot for you
#1714 [21:56] <ChumChum921> ok
#1715 [21:56] <valium> that address will start with 192.168.0
#1716 [21:56] <valium> the last number is what you need.
#1717 [21:56] <ChumChum921> http://gyazo.com/1b01dd2bfa5988e68f4c2501a5cb9050
#1718 [21:56] <ChumChum921> there
#1719 [21:57] <valium> okay, the wifi one then.
#1720 [21:57] <ChumChum921> ok
#1721 [21:57] <valium> because it looks like you're using wi-fi
#1722 [21:58] <ChumChum921> http://gyazo.com/f5d3a55a74b51944c3532980ab98de03
#1723 [21:58] <valium> is your mac plugged in with a cable to the router?
#1724 [21:58] <ChumChum921> i think
#1725 [21:58] <ChumChum921> wait
#1726 [21:59] <ChumChum921> yea
#1727 [21:59] <valium> check the connections, I think one is loose
#1728 [21:59] <ChumChum921> http://gyazo.com/b8813492c58791c6e6d19c3c068156fb
#1729 [21:59] <ChumChum921> kk
#1730 [22:00] <ChumChum921> yea
#1731 [22:00] <ChumChum921> its
#1732 [22:00] <ChumChum921> plugged
#1733 [22:01] <valium> fro some reason your mac isnt getting an IP addres from the router over the cable, only the wi-fi
#1734 [22:01] <valium> so the easy fix would be to forward your port to 192.168.0.30
#1735 [22:01] <ChumChum921> well im thinking the wire is not connected
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#1737 [22:01] <ChumChum921> ok
#1738 [22:02] <valium> I think you got it.
#1739 [22:02] <ChumChum921> how do u no
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#1741 [22:02] <valium> because I was able to connect
#1742 [22:02] <cuddleguync> is the minecraft server down?
#1743 [22:02] <ChumChum921> omg it works
#1744 [22:02] <valium> you mean minecraft.net?
#1745 [22:02] <cuddleguync> yes
#1746 [22:03] <ChumChum921> thanlks
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#1748 [22:03] <valium> cuddleguync nope
#1749 [22:03] <cuddleguync> i tried playing it on both the site and client and both are stping at done loading
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#1752 [22:04] <valium> cuddleguync you're not the first person to have this issue in the past hour...
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#1754 [22:04] <cuddleguync> it's been doing it for a week now
#1755 [22:05] <ChumChum921> hey who was helping me
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#1757 [22:05] <valium> me
#1758 [22:05] <ChumChum921> who wants to join me in mc
#1759 [22:06] <valium> I'm already on it lol
#1760 [22:06] <valium> this is a beautiful seed
#1761 [22:06] <ChumChum921> come to my house
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#1763 [22:06] <ChumChum921> -625 x
#1764 [22:06] <ChumChum921> -97 z
#1765 [22:06] <ChumChum921> ok
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#1775 [22:21] <ragnoth> Hey just wondered if there are login issues with minecraft currently, been trying to login and it just keeps telling me "too many failed logins" and i can't login at the min
#1776 [22:21] <HollaProne> I need some help, im looking to begin playing again, and when i run the game, i get a black screen and the client crashes. I have updated java and deleted META-INF
#1777 [22:22] <HollaProne> NO help?
#1778 [22:22] <HollaProne> Fuck you all too.
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#1780 [22:22] <valium> LOLOOL
#1781 [22:24] <ragnoth> just wanna know if anyone else is having trouble login on or not if you are then its not on my side if you aren't i will go look elsewhere to find out, just would like a quick yes or no, are there any login issues currently?
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#1783 [22:24] <puffrfish> !login
#1784 [22:25] <puffrfish> O
#1785 [22:25] <puffrfish> oops, I'm not getting any ragnoth
#1786 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/ also confirms thatr the service status is in the green so far as logons and other things are concerned
#1787 [22:25] <ragnoth> hmm strange well thanks for the help will try sorting it out on my side :)
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#1801 [23:07] <Denizen> k, night
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#1809 [23:29] <al_> i keep getting java virtual machine ....already have current versionof java ...any help?
#1810 [23:31] <valium> al_ ?
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#1812 [23:33] <al_> When i try to load up minecraft it will always pop up as Error: Java VIrtual Machine loader and won't open any way to fix it?
#1813 [23:34] <valium> what OS?
#1814 [23:34] <al_> Windows XP
#1815 [23:34] <valium> what version of java?
#1816 [23:35] <al_> Version 7
#1817 [23:35] <valium> do you have any other versions installed?
#1818 [23:38] <al_> All i see is java 7 update 7
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#1822 [23:45] <al_> Tried removing and reinstalling minecraft but did not work.
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#1824 [23:53] <al_> Any suggestions?
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