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#9 [00:34] <juan-tam> My minecraft goes black screen after i press play offline
#10 [00:35] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: Has it worked before?
#11 [00:35] <juan-tam> nope
#12 [00:36] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: does the launcher say "Cannot connect to Minecraft.net"?
#13 [00:36] <juan-tam> yeah
#14 [00:36] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: OK, has that message ever appeared before?
#15 [00:36] <juan-tam> everytime i try to log in
#16 [00:37] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: Username please?
#17 [00:37] <juan-tam> jbothebo
#18 [00:38] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: OK, try turning off any security software, including firewalls and anti-viruses
#19 [00:38] <juan-tam> ok lets give it a shot
#20 [00:38] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: Especially if you have AVG or Norton installed, it's best to uninstall them and get another anti-virus instead
#21 [00:38] <juan-tam> i got mcafee
#22 [00:38] <Finamenon> x.x
#23 [00:38] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: I see
#24 [00:39] <juan-tam> no good didnt work
#25 [00:39] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: Can you access minecraft.net on the browser?
#26 [00:40] <juan-tam> yeah but it just freezes at done loading
#27 [00:40] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: No, visiting minecraft from your browser, such as IE, Chrome, etc
#28 [00:40] <tyteen4a03> *minecraft.net
#29 [00:40] <juan-tam> oh yeah i can
#30 [00:41] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: Can you access minecraft.net/play and see if you can play from there normally?
#31 [00:41] <juan-tam> trying it now
#32 [00:42] <tyteen4a03> ??< error/cantconnect
#33 [00:42] <juan-tam> still on done loading
#34 [00:43] <tyteen4a03> ??> juan-tam win/reinst/bat
#35 [00:43] <VoxelHead> juan-tam: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#36 [00:43] <VoxelHead> juan-tam: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#37 [00:43] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: Then go back to minecraft.net/play and try again
#38 [00:44] <juan-tam> done loading screen again
#39 [00:45] <tyteen4a03> just wondering, how old is this computer?
#40 [00:45] <juan-tam> a year and a few months
#41 [00:45] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: is it a desktop or a laptop?
#42 [00:45] <juan-tam> laptop
#43 [00:46] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: Can you give me the model?
#44 [00:46] <juan-tam> dell inspiron n 5110
#45 [00:47] <Finamenon> you uh
#46 [00:47] <Finamenon> may want to ask him if he has java installed
#47 [00:47] <juan-tam> i do its up to date and i have tried running it with 6
#48 [00:47] <Finamenon> :<
#49 [00:47] <tyteen4a03> Finamenon: if he gets Done Loading screen, it means he does
#50 [00:48] <Finamenon> ahh touche
#51 [00:49] <juan-tam> its a bit frustrating ya know
#52 [00:49] <tyteen4a03> ??> juan-tam win/dxdiag
#53 [00:49] <VoxelHead> juan-tam: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#54 [00:49] <VoxelHead> juan-tam: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#55 [00:49] <tyteen4a03> uh
#56 [00:49] <tyteen4a03> ??> juan-tam win/dxdiag/bat
#57 [00:49] <VoxelHead> juan-tam: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#58 [00:49] <VoxelHead> juan-tam: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#59 [00:49] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: Follow the instructions just posted by VoxelHead
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#61 [00:50] <juan-tam> ok gimme a sac
#62 [00:50] <juan-tam> sec
#63 [00:53] <juan-tam> http://pastebin.com/mckrHAxg
#64 [00:55] <juan-tam> is that what you need?
#65 [00:56] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: Grab this driver: http://downloads.dell.com/video/R303142.exe
#66 [00:57] <juan-tam> what is it?
#67 [00:57] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: It's the driver for your display chip
#68 [00:57] <juan-tam> am i out dated to run minecraft?
#69 [00:58] <tyteen4a03> juan-tam: shouldn't be so
#70 [00:58] <juan-tam> ok i checked the system requirements and i thought i met all of them, lets hope this works
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#73 [01:11] <juan-tam> .... still down loading ....
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#79 [01:26] <juan-tam> ok it asks me to restart
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#84 [01:34] <juan-tam> just restarted after installing graphics drivers, still stuck on done loading and black screen after play offline
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#86 [01:41] <DiskDaemon> ??> juan-tam win/reinst
#87 [01:41] <VoxelHead> juan-tam: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#88 [01:41] <VoxelHead> juan-tam: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#89 [01:43] <juan-tam> nope still on done loading
#90 [01:44] <juan-tam> what now?
#91 [01:44] <DiskDaemon> okay, let’s find out why http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#95 [01:49] <juan-tam> C:\games>java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -cp Minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame asdf java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Users\Juan!\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\lastlog in (The system cannot find the file specified) at java.io.FileInputStream.open(Native Method) at java.io.FileInputStream.<init>(Unknown Source) at net.minecraft.LoginForm.readUsername(LoginForm.java:110) at net.minecraft.LoginForm.<init>(LoginForm
#96 [01:51] <juan-tam> is this what you need?
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#98 [01:55] <juan-tam> is this what you need?
#99 [01:56] <DiskDaemon> ??> juan-tam pastebin
#100 [01:56] <VoxelHead> juan-tam: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#101 [01:56] <juan-tam> http://pastebin.com/KT70xjEY
#102 [01:58] <DiskDaemon> RIght, java.io.Reader is having trouble reading something in, so it’s almost certainly a security program that’s preventing it from getting the file that it needs
#103 [02:01] <DiskDaemon> Someone says that options.txt was referencing the old language pack, which caused the problem. But that can’t be your situation because you have already deleted everything except for the saves folder, right? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1516309-minecraft-suddenly-started-crashing-after-login-didnt-before/
#104 [02:01] <juan-tam> yeah multiple times
#105 [02:01] <juan-tam> i dont even have saves folder cause its never worked
#106 [02:02] <DiskDaemon> Which antivirus product do you use?
#107 [02:02] <juan-tam> mcafee
#108 [02:03] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#109 [02:04] <tryy3> is there any file from a bukkit server that only get created if the server is running and get deleted when the server is stopped?
#110 [02:04] <DiskDaemon> We don’t deal with bukkit here
#111 [02:04] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#112 [02:04] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#113 [02:04] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#114 [02:05] <tryy3> oh ok sorry
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#116 [02:06] <juan-tam> ok so the firewall issue fixed my cannot connect to servers problem but i still have a black screen after that and a done loading in browser
#117 [02:07] <DiskDaemon> force an update, or go through the minecraft reinstall thing while the security stuff is not getting in the way
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#119 [02:08] <juan-tam> ok lets try that
#120 [02:16] <juan-tam> ok uninstalled and reinstalled and still same problem
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#122 [02:16] <DiskDaemon> juan-tam: Which parts of mcafee did you temporarily disable?
#123 [02:17] <juan-tam> the firewall
#124 [02:17] <DiskDaemon> Temporarily disable all of mcafee - not just the firewall.
#125 [02:17] <juan-tam> how do i do that
#126 [02:18] <DiskDaemon> A google search should result in effective instructions
#127 [02:18] <juan-tam> ok
#128 [02:20] <DiskDaemon> Instructions for mcafee antivirus and mcafee security centre can be found at http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic114351.html
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#132 [02:28] <juan-tam> ok no fix with that
#133 [02:29] <DiskDaemon> Now that one of your previous problems seems to be resolved, what does the crash report now say when you try?
#134 [02:31] <juan-tam> ill send you another
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#136 [02:36] <jimmy8390> Hey can someone help me?
#137 [02:36] <DiskDaemon> we can try
#138 [02:36] <jimmy8390> Yeah so I had a really strange occurence like 2 weeks ago
#139 [02:37] <jimmy8390> I was in the middle of a multiplayer session, then my minecraft suddenly froze and exit the game
#140 [02:37] <jimmy8390> And so i tried logging back in and my own username and password wont work anymore.
#141 [02:37] <jimmy8390> It was on ''remember'' password and i tried like 23454523 times logging in
#142 [02:37] <jimmy8390> I cant even log into the website
#143 [02:38] <jimmy8390> Everytime i log in it says Login failed, try again or play offline.
#144 [02:38] <DiskDaemon> You may need to reset your password then http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#145 [02:39] <jimmy8390> I have already
#146 [02:39] <juan-tam> http://pastebin.com/JtbYdEWL
#147 [02:40] <jimmy8390> But it still doesnt work
#148 [02:40] <juan-tam> thats the new error report
#149 [02:41] <jimmy8390> I have tried changing it and the new password doesnt even work as well
#150 [02:41] <jimmy8390> I haven't played minecraft in 2 weeks :L
#151 [02:42] <DiskDaemon> juan-tam: If it’s any consolation, all of those “Can't get input stream from URL” that we are now seeing in your report now indicate that there is something that’s still stopping Minecraft from downloading what it needs
#152 [02:42] <DiskDaemon> jimmy8390: First test that you can log in to the website
#153 [02:43] <juan-tam> any idea what i could do
#154 [02:43] <jimmy8390> Yes I tried logging into the website but it just says wrong password or wrong username.
#155 [02:43] <DiskDaemon> jimmy8390: When you choose to reset your password are you receiving the email that they send to you?
#156 [02:43] <jimmy8390> Oops, unknown username or password. If you are logging in with a Mojang account make sure to use your e-mail address as username.
#157 [02:44] <DiskDaemon> juan-tam: Sure - remove whatever it is that is preventing Minecraft from being able to download the files that it needs.
#158 [02:44] <jimmy8390> The thing is, my friend was the one who bought the minecraft account for me.
#159 [02:44] <jimmy8390> And he set the email to his email.
#160 [02:44] <juan-tam> how do i find whats stopping it?
#161 [02:44] <jimmy8390> I had asked him to change the password and he said Yeah he got the email, and then changed the password to a new one
#162 [02:45] <DiskDaemon> jimmy8390: Then you know now what needs to be done
#163 [02:45] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#164 [02:45] <jimmy8390> And the new one doesnt work for me.
#165 [02:45] <DiskDaemon> juan-tam: That is something that I am not all that expert at. What I know is that certain security software, firewalls, and most especially antivirus programs cause that problem.
#166 [02:46] <DiskDaemon> jimmy8390: We can’t help you beyond the assistance that we’ve already given you then
#167 [02:46] <jimmy8390> aww :L
#168 [02:46] <jimmy8390> Thanks though
#169 [02:47] <DiskDaemon> you’re welcome
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#171 [02:49] <juan-tam> how do i find whats stopping it?
#172 [02:49] <juan-tam> ok sounds good ill try it out
#173 [02:53] <jimmy8390> Damn now i cant play minecraft
#174 [02:53] <jimmy8390> only the classic version and offline -.-
#175 [02:54] <DiskDaemon> jimmy8390: When you regain control over your username, let us know.
#176 [02:54] <jimmy8390> Okay..
#177 [02:54] <jimmy8390> I could ask my friend to get the transaction ID and get mojang to reset it
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#210 [05:50] <Dragonaut> Hello
#211 [05:52] <Dragonaut> I'm
#212 [05:53] <Dragonaut> having trouble with my acer laptop
#213 [05:53] <Dragonaut> closing minecraft after the loading screen it goes black for a few seconds and closes it's self
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#226 [06:29] <Alex_> i have downloaded minecraft but when i start it, all i get is a black screen in the window. What am i doing wrong?!
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#228 [06:34] <Yerg> Has it ever worked before?
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#231 [06:44] <Alex_> no it is the first time i've used it.
#232 [06:46] <Alex_> For reference, the pc is running XP on a 3GHs Pentium 4CPU, 1.46GB of RAM
#233 [06:46] <lutzee> Graphics drivers are out of date then
#234 [06:47] <lutzee> Also the game will run terribly on yor PC unless you have a dedicated graphics card.
#235 [06:47] <Alex_> That's possible. I'll check what the graphics card is...
#236 [06:48] <lutzee> ?? win/dxdiag
#237 [06:48] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#238 [06:48] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#239 [06:48] <lutzee> ^that will tell you
#240 [06:48] <lutzee> And tell me everything i need to know
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#242 [06:56] <Alex_> I've got as far as pasting into pastbin etc excuse my ignorance, what's the irc channel? Swallow hard, and forgive me!
#243 [06:56] <lutzee> This is the IRC channel :p
#244 [06:56] <Alex_> http://pastebin.com/izN53Dpf
#245 [06:57] <lutzee> Woah, i've never seen that brand of graphics shipset here yet o.o
#246 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, I have.
#247 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> It's a very.. very bargain basement brand of graphics card. You're not going to get minecraft to run on that
#248 [06:59] <lutzee> Er, he might be able to get it going on the on board chipset?
#249 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> That is his on board chipset.
#250 [07:00] <lutzee> Oh..
#251 [07:00] <Alex_> That sounds like bad news... OK, I guess an upgrade. Aternatively, having bought the app, can I no download it onto another pc? This is a little xPC which I got for my son off ebay as an entry device.
#252 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Yes you can
#253 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> You can play it on as many PCs as you own, there's no limit to how many you can install minecraft on.
#254 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> It's not locked to the PC that you purchased it on
#255 [07:01] <Alex_> I've another Dell I could try. Thanks for you help guys. I'll shut down now and stick it on another. My other son has it running ok on an HP laptop. Perhaps my wife's Mac will have to suffer...
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#257 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> Good luck
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#263 [07:08] <Guest19747> i try to connect to my friends server but it says connection refused, it was working before
#264 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> His server may not be running right now
#265 [07:09] <Guest19747> they where on last night when i tried to join their server but couldnt
#266 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> What is the ip?
#267 [07:10] <Guest19747> 178.239.170.172:22575
#268 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> !check 178.239.170.172:22575
#269 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> ;check 178.239.170.172:22575
#270 [07:10] <WugBot> 178.239.170.172:22575 is accepting connections.
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#272 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> There's no server running at that ip address that either bot detects
#273 [07:12] <Guest19747> i have typed it in right so whats wrong with it here is another ip 5.1.35.165.39 i cant connect to this either
#274 [07:12] <GreyVulpine> That's typically a hamachi IP address. You would need to install hamachi, join the network the server is running on, and join the server
#275 [07:12] <GreyVulpine> Try the server: s.nerd.nu
#276 [07:14] <Guest19747> it let me connect to s.nerd.nu is their a reason i cannot connect to those other servers? my friends can connect to those other servers
#277 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> Any ip that starts with 5., is typically a hamachi ip address. It's something you need to install a program called Hamachi to join with.
#278 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> That other ip address, is not currently running a server. People that run the server at home, can turn off the server when they feel like it.
#279 [07:16] <Guest19747> i have downloaded hamachi my ip is 5.135.165.39
#280 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> Then you would also need to join the network the server is running on
#281 [07:17] <Guest19747> how would i make my own
#282 [07:18] <Guest19747> *world
#283 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> by downloading the server software from: www.minecraft.net/download
#284 [07:19] <Guest19747> what one
#285 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> minecraft_server
#286 [07:21] <Guest19747> i have done this before so it says that its alredy in use but i have deleted it what will i do
#287 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Did you run minecraft_server directly? Or did you modify some config file before running it?
#288 [07:22] <Guest19747> clicked on it and run it
#289 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Then it should've just worked.
#290 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin.com the output of the server's log please. Give us the URL
#291 [07:26] <Guest19747> pastebin.com/qvd2szh6
#292 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> Starting Minecraft server on 5.135.165.39:25565
#293 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> That is why I asked. Go into your server.properties. Delete the server-ip='s address
#294 [07:27] * Me4502|away is now known as Me4502
#295 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> Just have server-ip= to be blank
#296 [07:28] <Guest19747> since it says already in use it wont download the files
#297 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#298 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> Remove the address from server-ip=, then run the server again. It'll say "Done". You can then join your server then
#299 [07:29] <Guest19747> i dont have the server properties file
#300 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes you do.
#301 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> It's how you edited it in the first place
#302 [07:30] <Guest19747> i deleted it
#303 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> Where did you download minecraft_server to in the first place?
#304 [07:31] <GreyVulpine> You may have deleted minecraft_server, but you didn't delete the server.properties file
#305 [07:31] <Guest19747> i did
#306 [07:31] <GreyVulpine> When you redownloaded minecraft_server, it used the same server.properties file you had before
#307 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> Redownload minecraft_server then. Place it in a seperate folder on your desktop
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#309 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> Run minecraft_server. Do not touch server.properties when it creates it
#310 [07:39] <Guest19747> when it says done will i type in stop?
#311 [07:40] <lutzee> typing stop will turn off the server safely
#312 [07:40] <Guest19747> and will it download the server properties files
#313 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> If the server's running, the server.properties file will automatically generate
#314 [07:41] <Guest19747> it hasnt can i turn it off then on again
#315 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> Do you see Done in the server console?
#316 [07:42] <lutzee> If you have the directory open, hit f5 and it will refresh the contents, it should be ther
#317 [07:42] <Guest19747> only document i have is minecraft_server
#318 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> Is it in a seperate folder?
#319 [07:43] <Guest19747> yes i saved it in a folder called mincraft in my docs
#320 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> Press your F5 key.
#321 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> While in the folder.
#322 [07:44] <Guest19747> i tried that and also tried reopening it but still no files
#323 [07:44] <Guest19747> can i stop and see if they download
#324 [07:44] <Guest19747> i had to do that the last time and then they appeared
#325 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> Go ahead
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#327 [07:47] <Guest19747> ok i have made it blank
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#329 [07:49] <Guest19747> i have got all the files now and i have deleted the ip address and ran the server again and it says done, what do i do now?
#330 [07:50] <GreyVulpine> Join your server
#331 [07:50] <Guest19747> now that i set the server ip to blank what will i type into minecraft to join it?
#332 [07:50] * Me4502 is now known as Me4502|away
#333 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> Your internal ip address, your 'localhost' ip, 127.0.0.1, your hamachi ip, or possibly your public ip address
#334 [07:52] <Guest19747> do i need to type it into the server.properties file again?
#335 [07:52] <GreyVulpine> No
#336 [07:52] <GreyVulpine> Leave it alone
#337 [07:53] <Guest19747> my hamachi 5.135.165.39 doesnt work
#338 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> Try 127.0.0.1
#339 [07:53] <Deas> afaik, you don't really need hamachi unless you got no clue on how to manage your routers ports / don't have access to it (:
#340 [07:54] <Zimsky> and you think that's the case here? >.>
#341 [07:54] <Deas> yeah i know, i'm just saying.
#342 [07:54] <Deas> don't be a douche :p jeeze
#343 [07:54] <Guest19747> that ip didnt work will i try my home hub ip?
#344 [07:55] <Deas> what does the server console say? is it REALLY up and running?
#345 [07:55] <Zimsky> Deas: actually I was referring to the discussion that's been going for some time, of which you haven't read most of.
#346 [07:55] <Deas> Zimsky: i assumed that aswell.
#347 [07:55] <Zimsky> also yes i'm a huge douche, biggest on the internet
#348 [07:55] <Guest19747> it says connection refussed
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#350 [07:56] * lutzee just aqquired 2 C64's for free.
#350 [07:56] <Deas> connection refussed = no server online (mostly)
#351 [07:57] <Deas> ohi lutzee
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#353 [07:57] <Deas> awesome; can i have one? i've been diying to get my hands on one!
#354 [07:57] <lutzee> I have no clue whether these work, but will be fun to mess with
#355 [07:59] <Deas> i'd glad for you if they do infact work
#356 [07:59] <lutzee> I have no power cord or any way to see what they are doing atm
#357 [08:00] <Guest19747> nothing is working on the ip
#358 [08:00] <Deas> Guest19747: have you made sure the server is up and running correctly?
#359 [08:00] <Deas> Guest19747: post the console's "log"
#360 [08:01] <Guest19747> what log? how do i find out if its up and running ok? when i ran the server again after changing the properties it said done
#361 [08:03] <Guest19747> pastebin.com/vbwzkpfa
#362 [08:05] <Deas> Guest19747: i know this has probably been asked before, but are you running the server and the client on the same computer or two different oncs?
#363 [08:05] <Deas> ones*
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#365 [08:06] <Deas> lol, two ones
#366 [08:06] <Guest19747> its all running on the same computer expect this chat is open on a dif one
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#368 [08:11] <Dragonaut> Hello Guys
#369 [08:11] <Dragonaut> i need some help
#370 [08:11] <Deas> Guest19747: and you are infact also using version 1.3.2 client?
#371 [08:11] <Guest19747> yes
#372 [08:11] <Deas> Dragonaut: of course you do (:
#373 [08:12] <Dragonaut> i get passed the done loading screen
#374 [08:12] <Guest19747> what ip with i use
#375 [08:12] <Dragonaut> and i get black screen for a few seconds and then it just exits
#376 [08:12] <Deas> try 'localhost' (or 127.0.0.1 as suggested before)
#377 [08:12] <Dragonaut> well it closes it's self
#378 [08:12] <Guest19747> i ran the sever with the blank ip but now any ip i try putting into mincecraft is saying that it cant connect
#379 [08:12] <Dragonaut> i'll give you the error for it
#380 [08:12] <Deas> don't put any ip into the server's config
#381 [08:13] <Dragonaut> And can you see if you guys could help me
#382 [08:13] <Dragonaut> fix this problem
#383 [08:13] <Deas> Dragonaut: java version?
#384 [08:13] <Dragonaut> 7
#385 [08:13] <Guest19747> do i need to type localhost:25565?
#386 [08:14] <GreyVulpine> Guest19747 - Just localhost on the computer running the server
#387 [08:14] <Guest19747> on minecraft or server log?
#388 [08:14] <Deas> mc
#389 [08:15] <Guest19747> its not working on minecraft do i need to type it into the server properties file>?/
#390 [08:15] <Dragonaut> http://pastebin.com/TvfM9eyh
#391 [08:15] <Dragonaut> here
#392 [08:15] <Deas> dont type any ip into the serverproperties
#393 [08:15] <Dragonaut> is the error
#394 [08:15] <Dragonaut> i'm on a acer laptop
#395 [08:16] <Dragonaut> So Deas
#396 [08:16] <Dragonaut> do you know a solution
#397 [08:18] <Dragonaut> Well
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#399 [08:19] <Shindo> Hello guys ^^ can someone tell me how i can make a server with the aether mod?
#400 [08:19] <Dragonaut> You can't
#401 [08:19] <Dragonaut> untill the release of it for 1.3.2
#402 [08:19] <Deas> Dragonaut: did you just install java7 now or is this something that just started to happen?
#403 [08:20] <Dragonaut> now
#404 [08:20] <Dragonaut> i just installed
#405 [08:20] <Dragonaut> recently
#406 [08:20] <Deas> Dragonaut: did you reboot the computer?
#407 [08:20] <Dragonaut> well today
#408 [08:20] <Dragonaut> yep
#409 [08:20] <Dragonaut> it only has 700mb of ram
#410 [08:20] <Dragonaut> but i'm pretty sure minecraft can play
#411 [08:20] <Dragonaut> with that much ram :P
#412 [08:21] <Deas> Dragonaut: can't really tell much from the errorlog, but i suspect that something went wrong when you updated/installed java 7
#413 [08:22] <Dragonaut> should i use a earlier java
#414 [08:22] <Deas> Dragonaut: and your also using a clean ("vanilla") minecraft version?
#415 [08:22] <Dragonaut> yeah
#416 [08:23] <Morrolan> Minecraft is assigning itself 1GB of RAM by default, so if you want to run it on a 700MB PC you'll have to use custom CLI parameters.
#417 [08:23] <Deas> oh, haha didnt see that~
#418 [08:24] <Morrolan> There should be a pre-made command on www.minecraft.net/download below the .jar client, you'll have to adjust the xmx and xms values, though.
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#420 [08:24] <Dragonaut> so that is the problem
#421 [08:24] <Deas> most likely yes
#422 [08:24] <Dragonaut> could you possibly make me a code for that much ram
#423 [08:25] <Dragonaut> Please?
#424 [08:25] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/#cl <- "Do - Give Minecraft more/less memory"
#425 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#426 [08:26] <Morrolan> Open the spoiler, there'll be a bunch of commands there
#427 [08:26] <Morrolan> Alternatively, GreyVulpine's pastebin.
#428 [08:26] <Morrolan> Actually, try GV's pastebin, that forum post is doing something odd.
#429 [08:27] <Dragonaut> can you type it for me?
#430 [08:27] <GreyVulpine> Already been done. Check: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
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#432 [08:28] <Deas> Morrolan: nice thread ^^
#433 [08:28] <Deas> a lot of issues covered :p
#434 [08:28] <Morrolan> Yea.
#435 [08:28] <Morrolan> Google. ;)
#436 [08:28] <Morrolan> Since our friend up there seemingly wasn't able to use that powerful tool.
#437 [08:29] <Boreeas> I wonder where they got the numbers from, though
#438 [08:29] <Boreeas> " By default java allocates insane amounts of memory (1GB?) which then gets swapped to disk and the overall performance suffers a lot." sounds a lot like speculating to me
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#440 [08:30] <Fraskesa> How to install mincraft. jar on Ubuntu?
#441 [08:30] <Morrolan> Download it from
#442 [08:30] <Morrolan> !client
#443 [08:30] <Deas> Fraskesa: download and just doubleclick it
#444 [08:30] <Fraskesa> If I doubleclick then I just enter the directory in that folder.
#445 [08:30] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Assuming it is correct that Minecraft allocates itself 1GB of RAM (and I thought it was), the rest of that sentence sounds reasonable for systems with less than 1GB of free RAM.
#446 [08:30] <Dragonaut> Ubuntu is a linux destro
#447 [08:31] <Dragonaut> with physical gui
#448 [08:31] <Deas> Fraskesa: make it runnable/exludable
#449 [08:31] <Dragonaut> and output
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#451 [08:31] <Rayono> Hay
#452 [08:31] <Boreeas> Fraskesa: chmod +x path/to/minecraft.jar
#453 [08:31] <Rayono> I have one Question
#454 [08:31] <Dragonaut> Anyways
#455 [08:31] <Deas> or rightclick it :p
#456 [08:31] <Dragonaut> i seem to not be able to find
#457 [08:31] <Dragonaut> any code
#458 [08:31] <Dragonaut> to use
#459 [08:31] <Dragonaut> 512mb
#460 [08:31] <Dragonaut> of ram
#461 [08:32] <Dragonaut> what would i type to make it do it?
#462 [08:32] <Morrolan> Dragonaut - The enter key isn't used for punctuation, but for structuring. ;)
#463 [08:32] <Boreeas> Dragonaut: Replace 256 with 512 in GreyVulpine's paste
#464 [08:32] <Rayono> I have 2 Problems
#465 [08:32] <Rayono> I dont remember my order Number
#466 [08:32] <Rayono> And i want to Contact the support
#467 [08:32] <Rayono> But i dont have the Number
#468 [08:33] <Dragonaut> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#469 [08:33] <Dragonaut> pause
#470 [08:33] <Dragonaut> this code did the same
#471 [08:33] <Deas> notepad -> paste java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar
#472 [08:33] <Dragonaut> tried that
#473 [08:33] <Boreeas> Dragon That will limit you to 256 MB. If you want 512 MB, replace 256 with 512
#474 [08:33] <Dragonaut> did the same
#475 [08:33] <Boreeas> Blarb, tab fail
#476 [08:36] <Dragonaut> umm that
#477 [08:36] <Dragonaut> code don't work at all
#478 [08:36] <Shindo> can someone help me? i want to make a server with "the aether" mod
#479 [08:36] <Fraskesa> Can anyone direct me to a nice guide showing how to install MC on ubuntu as I'm not familiar with ubuntu.
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#481 [08:37] <Boreeas> Fraskesa: Do you have a "My Games" directory in your home?
#482 [08:37] <Dragonaut> It did the same error
#483 [08:37] <Dragonaut> got any other way to fix it
#484 [08:37] <Fraskesa> No.
#485 [08:37] <Deas> Fraskesa:http://www.wikihow.com/Play-Minecraft-in-Ubuntu
#486 [08:37] <Dragonaut> Morrolan i did what you told me to do
#487 [08:38] <Boreeas> Fraskesa: Okay. Are you comfortable with the terminal?
#488 [08:38] <Fraskesa> Boreeas: Not yet. Getting used to it still.
#489 [08:38] <Deas> Boreeas: there's no need to use the terminal for this; -> Fraskesa: http://www.wikihow.com/Play-Minecraft-in-Ubuntu
#490 [08:39] <Dragonaut> So why did it not work?
#491 [08:39] <Fraskesa> Deas: Are you sure?
#492 [08:39] <Dragonaut> Well this is gay
#493 [08:39] <Boreeas> Dragonaut: No homophobia, please
#494 [08:39] <Deas> yes, the guide i found for you is perfectly for anyone to do, it's super easy
#495 [08:40] <Boreeas> Fraskesa: Looks like that guide will work, if it doesn'T you can always come back here
#496 [08:40] <Fraskesa> Deas: Thank you very much. -> Boreeas: Thank you too!
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#498 [08:40] <Shindo> someone Q_Q?
#499 [08:41] <Deas> i find it confusing that people find this irc but not begin able to google it themselfs
#500 [08:41] <Dragonaut> Why did it to do the same thing
#501 [08:41] <Boreeas> Dragonaut: What error do you get?
#502 [08:41] <Dragonaut> i did what you guys told me to do :\
#503 [08:43] <Dragonaut> http://pastebin.com/d8GEzGry
#504 [08:43] <Dragonaut> this error
#505 [08:43] <Dragonaut> is it my java
#506 [08:43] <Dragonaut> the pc
#507 [08:43] <Dragonaut> or did i type this code in wrong?
#508 [08:44] <Boreeas> Now that's interesting
#509 [08:44] <Dragonaut> java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#510 [08:44] <Dragonaut> this is what i put
#511 [08:44] <Dragonaut> acer laptop with 720mb of ram
#512 [08:45] <Boreeas> Try 'java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.jar'
#513 [08:45] <Boreeas> Actually, if you only have 720 MB of RAM, you probably want to use less than 512 MB
#514 [08:46] <Deas> i suggest using 128 or 256 instead
#515 [08:46] <Deas> or both!
#516 [08:46] <Dragonaut> i was going to play it with mods
#517 [08:47] <Boreeas> Well, you will see how well that works. If it becomes too slow, try replacing 512 with 256
#518 [08:47] <Deas> and if 256 is too slow, replace that with 128 ;)
#519 [08:47] <Boreeas> You probably need to remove the mods then, though
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#521 [08:47] <Boreeas> Deas: 128 MB seems a little low
#522 [08:47] <Deas> Boreeas: perhaps.
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#524 [08:48] <Dragonaut> java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#525 [08:48] <Dragonaut> so the scripy
#526 [08:48] <Dragonaut> *script
#527 [08:48] <Boreeas> Remove the net.mineraft.LauncherFrame
#528 [08:48] <Deas> Dragonaut: you shoud probably get MC to run in the first place, before you start trying out Mods
#529 [08:49] <Dragonaut> And it closes again
#530 [08:49] <Dragonaut> after done loading goes black for a seconds then closes
#531 [08:50] <Boreeas> Did you try removing all Java installations and then installing the latest version?
#532 [08:50] <Dragonaut> nope i should
#533 [08:50] <Dragonaut> thats a good idea
#534 [08:50] <Dragonaut> let me try :P
#535 [08:51] <Dragonaut> if that don't work got any other ideas
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#537 [08:53] <Boreeas> Not really, no
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#539 [08:53] <Dragonaut> damn
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#541 [08:54] <Deas> i'd say use java 6 instead incase that doesnt work
#542 [08:54] <Deas> if it's a java7 issue.
#543 [08:58] <Dragonaut> Ok thanks for all your help guys :D
#544 [08:58] <Dragonaut> brb
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#546 [08:59] <Shindo> is some one here who know about the aether mod?
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#550 [09:01] <Shindo> guys? ^^
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#552 [09:05] <Dragonaut> nope did the same :\
#553 [09:08] <lutzee> Shindo: do /join #aethermod thats the official channel
#554 [09:16] <Dragonaut> Please
#555 [09:16] <Dragonaut> if u guys got teamviewer
#556 [09:16] <Deas> Dragonaut: sure
#557 [09:16] <Dragonaut> i'll show you over my laptop
#558 [09:16] <itzmjauz> huh.
#559 [09:16] <Deas> Dragonaut: but did you try using v6 instead?
#560 [09:17] <Dragonaut> ye
#561 [09:17] <itzmjauz> Dragonaut: http://forums.technicpack.net/threads/aether-mod.21532/
#562 [09:17] <Dragonaut> why do i care about aether mod?
#563 [09:17] <Deas> Shindo: see itzmjauz
#564 [09:17] <itzmjauz> Ah
#565 [09:17] <Dragonaut> Hows that related to my issue well?
#566 [09:18] <itzmjauz> I'm guessing it's a technic pack thing again ?
#567 [09:18] <itzmjauz> If It's technic pack than it's normal it isn't working
#568 [09:18] <Deas> Dragonaut: it doesn't, he confused you with Shindo
#569 [09:18] <Dragonaut> oh lol
#570 [09:18] <Dragonaut> xD
#571 [09:18] <itzmjauz> I just autocomplete everything. it works like shit
#572 [09:18] <itzmjauz> When messaging to someone*
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#578 [09:35] <kyurem44> my account won't upgrade to premium and i havebought minecraft like 5 times
#579 [09:35] <Dragonaut> try a different account name
#580 [09:36] <Dragonaut> it could already be in use
#581 [09:36] <Dragonaut> !paid
#582 [09:36] <Dragonaut> !paid kyurem44
#583 [09:36] <Dragonaut> !paid kyurem
#584 [09:36] <Dragonaut> !paid zekrom
#585 [09:37] <kyurem44> i have paid for minecraft
#586 [09:37] <Dragonaut> !paid Hentai
#587 [09:37] <Deas> !paid Notch
#588 [09:37] * AuBot kicked Deas from #minecrafthelp (Reason: eas :Notch has paid for Minecraft!)
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#591 [09:37] <Deas> lawl
#592 [09:37] <kyurem44> i need my account to update
#593 [09:37] <Dragonaut> !paid jeb
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#595 [09:38] <Andrio> Jeb is a spy!
#596 [09:38] <Deas> it's _jeb
#597 [09:38] <kyurem44> !paid kyurem44
#598 [09:38] <Dragonaut> !paid _jeb
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#600 [09:38] <Dragonaut> !paid _jeb
#601 [09:38] <Deas> or maybe not
#602 [09:38] <ShaRose> really guys
#603 [09:38] <Dragonaut> !paid nigger
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#606 [09:38] <ShaRose> !paid jeb_
#607 [09:38] <Deas> lol
#608 [09:39] <Dragonaut> !paid pornstar
#609 [09:39] <Dragonaut> ^
#610 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Please don't abuse the bots.
#611 [09:39] <Deas> ok enough
#612 [09:39] <Dragonaut> !paid was3
#613 [09:39] <Dragonaut> I paid for that account for a friend :D
#614 [09:39] <Dragonaut> As a gift code
#615 [09:40] <Deas> !paid god
#616 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> !k Dragonaut
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#618 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> !k Deas
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#622 [09:40] <Deas> waaat
#623 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> Enough.
#624 [09:40] <Dragonaut> !paid fuckyou
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#630 [09:40] <Deas> lol
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#634 [09:53] <thedark> when i try to play minecraft it tells me i need java run time environment 1.5.0 then it opens the java download but when i download its says i have java 7 update 7
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#641 [10:12] <Triggs4> How do I get a refund on the download?
#642 [10:12] <brasse> hi! should i be able to connect to a minecraft game running on an ipad from a windows client?
#643 [10:12] <Triggs4> Apparently I have a "bad video card" and download did not work-want my money back/
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#645 [10:13] <shaney> after a couple of minutes of gameplay my computer shuts down and takes a while for me to get in working again what could be wrong
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#651 [10:22] <Lolol> Hello?
#652 [10:22] <itzmjauz> hi
#653 [10:22] <Lolol> I have a question about Minecraft
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#655 [10:23] <itzmjauz> It's alot of cubes.
#656 [10:24] <Lolol> I have allready purchased It on my moms computer, but I have forgotten the password to the paid account
#657 [10:24] <Morrolan> ?? mc.net/resetpassword
#658 [10:24] <VoxelHead> mc.net/resetpassword: If you have to reset your password, use https://minecraft.net/resetpassword if your account was not migrated, respectively https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request if your account was migrated. You'll then be sent an email with further instructions.
#659 [10:24] * Morrolan points up :)
#659 [10:25] <Lolol> none of this works
#660 [10:25] <Morrolan> How does it not work?
#661 [10:26] <Lolol> it says it's sent me an email, but when i go to reset my password, the email isn't there
#662 [10:26] <Morrolan> Junk folder?
#663 [10:26] <Morrolan> Also, are you sure that you're checking the correct e-mail account?
#664 [10:26] <Lolol> ???
#665 [10:26] <Lolol> I own a mac
#666 [10:26] <Lolol> Yes, i am sure\
#667 [10:27] <Morrolan> Check your E-Mail account's junk folder then, it might end up in there.
#668 [10:27] <Morrolan> Junk folder, spam folder, however it's called.
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#673 [10:31] <Nova__> ummm i need help with somthing
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#675 [10:32] <Nova__> o wait nvm
#676 [10:32] <Nova__> o wait nvm
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#678 [10:34] * Yerg snrks
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#679 [10:35] <Setter> My minecraft is acting very weird
#680 [10:36] <Setter> No blocks are showing up on my singleplayer except for chests mob spawners and signs
#681 [10:36] <Setter> And on multiplayer there is a cube in the middle of the world with random blocks that says server issue
#682 [10:36] <Setter> I think but it was hard to reaed
#683 [10:36] <Setter> read*
#684 [10:36] <Setter> can you help me?
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#686 [10:40] <captainstan> Am I able to still find mineshafts even though my map was made before that update happened? Also I have tried the recipe for making anvils but I am not able to. Does anyone know why?
#687 [10:43] <Calinou> yes, in any newly generated terrain
#688 [10:44] <Calinou> anvils are only available in the development snapshots
#689 [10:46] <captainstan> so if the terrain was already generated (one of my maps was first generated before that update) i will still be able to find mineshafts?
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#691 [10:48] <Calinou> in terrain you already explored before beta 1.8 (september 14 2011), no, after, yes
#692 [10:48] <Calinou> unless you've edited your map using external tools to set "generate structures" to no
#693 [10:49] <captainstan> alrighty that works. thanks a ton!
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#696 [11:01] <manga456> on my mac i cant find the minecraft folder. i go to mac hd then libray then application support but the folder isnt there.
#697 [11:01] <manga456> can someone help me?
#698 [11:03] <Calinou> /Library/Application Support/minecraft
#699 [11:03] <Calinou> ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#700 [11:03] <Calinou> maybe this
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#712 [11:37] <Tmil2000> hello
#713 [11:39] <Tmil2000> i need help
#714 [11:40] <Andrio> Tmil2000, ask your question.
#715 [11:40] <Andrio> Tmil2000, ask your question.
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#718 [11:45] <Tmil2000> my minecraft goes to the login i type in the right info i press login and it closes wont open back or up
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#720 [11:53] <LimeTooth> Help: I am testing a plugin that involves teleporting. It automatically tp's you to the arena and when the arena is far out, when i am teleported, the player's dont render.
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#722 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Ask in #bukkit or #bukkitdev
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#728 [12:01] <skyguy9617> on account.mojang.com it says my acount is active but on minecraft.net it says the account doesn't exist
#729 [12:01] <skyguy9617> why is that?
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#734 [12:07] <Tmil2000> my minecraft account goes to the login screen it press login with all the right info it goes to a white and them close it happens every single time
#735 [12:07] <timelordelijah> The world I created about a month ago, was suddenly deleted. What happened?
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#737 [12:09] <skyguy9617> no 1 is helping
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#747 [12:28] <Tmil2000> anyone gonna help or can i leave
#748 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> Do you get an error report of any kind when minecraft closes?
#749 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> Has it ever worked before?
#750 [12:29] <Tmil2000> yeah
#751 [12:29] <Tmil2000> it did work
#752 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any sort of error when it closes?
#753 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> Maybe a file named hs_err_pid?
#754 [12:30] <timelordelijah> No error message. No warning.
#755 [12:30] <Tmil2000> okay ill try
#756 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> timelordelijah - I'm sorry?
#757 [12:31] <Tmil2000> its searching
#758 [12:31] <timelordelijah> I've only been on a few months. Does this happen a lot?
#759 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> timelordelijah - What does?
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#761 [12:32] <Tmil2000> which one there a lot of hs_err_pid
#762 [12:32] <timelordelijah> Oone of the worlds I created was deleted.
#763 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Ah, paste the latest one to pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the URL so that we may read the error
#764 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> timelordelijah - It happens infrequently. Sometimes occurs when the world is corrupted due to a power failure of the computer
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#766 [12:33] <marcus62960> I bought minecraft this morning and got order number but still I can not get on the game
#767 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Did you get an email with a transaction ID?
#768 [12:33] <marcus62960> no
#769 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> If not, the order most likely did not go through. Call your financial institution to confirm this
#770 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> If they don't have a record of the transaction, it most likely failed, and you'll need to try again
#771 [12:34] <marcus62960> ffcc8ec53f55447bbde27b5efde12822 what is this
#772 [12:34] <timelordelijah> Any defences? Can you copy a creation into multiple wolds or something?
#773 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> timelordelijah - You can back up your world, yes
#774 [12:34] <timelordelijah> How?
#775 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
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#777 [12:36] <timelordelijah> We're still hold'n on to XP
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#779 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> Alright then. Go to your Start Menu. Hit Run.
#780 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> Type in: %appdata%
#781 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Find the .minecraft folder at the top. Copy the world's folder from the saves folder to a safe location
#782 [12:37] <Nate_> We just down loaded micecraft on a brand new computer and we shoud
#783 [12:38] <Nate_> should have pleanty of RAm but we keep getting error message that Minecraft is out of memory
#784 [12:38] <timelordelijah> Awesome. Thank you.
#785 [12:38] <lutzee> Nate_: install java 64bit
#786 [12:38] <lutzee> :j7
#787 [12:38] <WugBot> j7: You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7u7-downloads-1836441.html (version 7u7)
#788 [12:39] <Nate_> ok we will try this thank yu
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#790 [12:42] <Tmil2000> okay which one there a lot of hs_err_pid's
#791 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> The latest one.
#792 [12:43] <Tmil2000> like the highest number or the lowest
#793 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Whatever is the latest one by date. The numbers are random.
#794 [12:43] <Tmil2000> ok]
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#802 [12:59] <Tmil2000> i delete the three lastest hs_err_pid nothing happened
#803 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Didn't tell you to delete it. Could you share the hs_err_pid file with us via www.pastebin.com?
#804 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> That way, we can read the error and determine what is wrong with your minecraft
#805 [12:59] <Galv223> Hello, I have been trying to connect to Minecraft classic servers. Everytime I try to it says that I failed to connect to the server, it's probably down.
#806 [13:00] <Galv223> I have tried with multiple servers and the same issue appears
#807 [13:00] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry we dont really support help with Classic ._.
#808 [13:01] <Galv223> .-. Where would I get help?
#809 [13:01] <Grim_Reaper> But the only thing I can suggest is trying to make sure your computer isn't blocking any ports etc
#810 [13:01] <Grim_Reaper> You could.. try the minecraft forums and googling perhaps
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#814 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> And hello to you too.
#815 [13:05] <hello> my minecraft screen stayswhite when i try to play do you know how to fix that
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#817 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> Try a force update through the launcher
#818 [13:06] <hello> im using my moms laptop i not allowed downloading
#819 [13:07] <Tmil2000> okay i shared it its titled hs_err_pidi
#820 [13:07] <hello> but ill ask her when she gets back
#821 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Tmil2000 - Could you give us the URL?
#822 [13:07] <hello> whats a url
#823 [13:07] <lutzee> GreyVulpine: here http://pastebin.com/QYnhYpCe
#824 [13:07] <Grim_Reaper> Hello.. it's on the launcher itself
#825 [13:08] <hello> oh my laptops broken so i dont really know
#826 [13:08] <Tmil2000> http://pastebin.com/QYnhYpCe
#827 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Ah, thanks.
#828 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Tmil2000 - Do you know how to update your ATI video drivers?
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#831 [13:09] <hello> whitch line
#832 [13:09] <Tmil2000> no i do not
#833 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Tmil2000 - Try: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#834 [13:10] <hello> im not allowed downloading
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#839 [13:11] <hello> sorry i know im being annoying its i haven't played minecraft in 7 monthes
#840 [13:12] <hello> but ill try calling my mom
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#842 [13:12] <hello> 1 sec
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#844 [13:15] <hello> hi
#845 [13:15] <FLHerne> hello: Hi...
#846 [13:15] <hello> well she said shell think about it
#847 [13:16] <hello> but i bought the game i just cant play it
#848 [13:16] <lutzee> You know the other form of reinstall should work fine
#849 [13:16] <lutzee> ?? win/reinst
#850 [13:16] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#851 [13:16] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#863 [13:40] <Tmil2000> thanks bye
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#867 [13:44] <chris_> Anybody here
#868 [13:45] <chris_> I need help with something is everybody afk
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#874 [14:00] <Rogue[Busy]> GreyVulpine welcome to the intelligence of the new generation
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#878 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I've grown accustomed to it
#879 [14:01] <Brandon_> hey it wont let me login it says im not a user any mor on minecraft
#880 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Did you migrate your account to a mojang one?
#881 [14:02] <Brandon_> yes
#882 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> If you did, you'll then need to use your email account as your username.
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#884 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Instead of your minecraft username
#885 [14:02] <Brandon_> it says my email is not a valid one and its the one i used to buy the game through
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#888 [14:03] <papaganoush> good day
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#890 [14:03] <papaganoush> when running a remote server what is a reasonable server restart increment
#891 [14:04] <Brandon_> are you still there?
#892 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Brandon_ - Are you sure you're using the right email address?
#893 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Brandon_ - Are you able to log into mojang.com with that email address?
#894 [14:04] <Brandon_> yes
#895 [14:04] <Brandon_> i'll try
#896 [14:04] <papaganoush> I've been running the server on a new VPS for 12 days and the memory usage is creeping upwards. it is now at 95%
#897 [14:05] <Brandon_> nope i cant
#898 [14:05] <lutzee> papaganoush: how many people use it? if you have a point in the day when no one is on, then daily is a good idea
#899 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> papaganoush - There's no hard and fast rule. If you need to restart, then do so. Java should have been doing garbage collection by itself automatically, unless you configured it otherwise
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#901 [14:06] <Brandon_> I NEED HELP PLEASSSSSSSSSEEEEE
#902 [14:06] <Rogue[Busy]> Brandon_ ?
#903 [14:06] <Brandon_> YES
#904 [14:06] <Brandon_> yes
#905 [14:06] <Brandon_> y es
#906 [14:06] <Brandon_> yes
#907 [14:06] <Brandon_> yes
#908 [14:06] <Brandon_> yes
#909 [14:06] <Rogue[Busy]> what is y.
#910 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> !k Brandon_
#911 [14:06] <Rogue[Busy]> ....
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#913 [14:06] * GreyVulpine sighs
#913 [14:07] <papaganoush> thanks lutzee and GreyVulpine
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#916 [14:08] <papaganoush> 14 people are on the whitelist but far fewer log in
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#918 [14:11] <PlatschixD> Need Help :(
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#924 [14:27] <mib_wvmhe9> why is crafting so dificult on the server I set up?
#925 [14:28] <mib_wvmhe9> Am I missing a setting for the world which will enable crafting as on the XBox 360 version of this game?
#926 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> The xbox version is vastly different from the PC version.
#927 [14:28] * mib_wvmhe9 is now known as Angelpyre
#928 [14:28] <Angelpyre> ikr
#929 [14:29] <Angelpyre> the crafting is harder by far
#930 [14:29] <Angelpyre> or so my kid tells me
#931 [14:32] <Angelpyre> I have not come across any commands which will make crafting more enabled, so does that mean there are none?
#932 [14:32] <Morrolan> Uh, how is it "harder"?
#933 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I don't have an xbox, so I can't answer that.
#934 [14:33] <Morrolan> Oh, comparing the xbox version and the PC one, I see.
#935 [14:33] <Morrolan> Chances are there's just recipes in the PC version which haven't been implemented in the Xbox version, yet.
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#938 [14:44] <lostandwild> im not abill to login to minecrat eny mor
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#944 [15:09] <Soki> Hey guys,
#945 [15:11] <Soki> My friend have downlaoded Tekkit, and i gues he have same problem as when he installed minecraft, that his username on the computer have a exclamation mark (!) in it, i think that what's bugging it up, we got a link here for make minecraft save data another palce
#946 [15:11] <Soki> Place*
#947 [15:11] <Soki> Can you provide such link for tekkit ?
#948 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> http://www.technicpack.net/tekkit/
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#950 [15:13] <Soki> I didt really meant htat link :D
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#954 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> A ! in the username would screw up minecraft.
#955 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> A simple answer would be to have him create an entirely new windows account, one without a ! in it
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#957 [15:17] <Soki> Entirely new windows account ;P? You mean user :P? Like "create new user" where you can give that user admin and such
#958 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Entirely new windows account, yes.
#959 [15:18] <Soki> So he can log on his current with ! and then another without a ! ?
#960 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#961 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> You may need to transfer savegames between those accounts.
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#964 [15:22] <Soki> Okey i will try make him do that :)
#965 [15:22] <Soki> Ty
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#980 [15:40] <Soki> It worked, ty Grey
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#987 [16:00] <FrenchVerbs> Every time I spawn I am surrounded by either wolves or ocelots, how do I fix this?
#988 [16:01] <FLHerne> FrenchVerbs: What version?
#989 [16:01] <FrenchVerbs> 1.3.2
#990 [16:01] <FLHerne> Odd
#991 [16:01] <FLHerne> I remember that bug from the snapshots and 1.3.1, thought they fixed it :-(
#992 [16:02] <FrenchVerbs> That's unfortunate.
#993 [16:02] <FLHerne> Sure you have the current version?
#994 [16:03] <FrenchVerbs> 100%
#995 [16:03] <FLHerne> I actually had that one myself, but the upgrade to 1.3.2 cured it here :P
#996 [16:03] <FrenchVerbs> Strange
#997 [16:03] <papaganoush> did anyone ever solve the mysterious "fish" log puzzle?
#998 [16:04] <itzmjauz> FrenchVerbs: What wolves or ocelots? I'd love that.
#999 [16:04] <FrenchVerbs> itzmjauz: It spawns about 25, so I can't mine or dig or move, it is very frustrating.
#1000 [16:05] <itzmjauz> FrenchVerbs: Jesus. Is it in every world?
#1001 [16:05] <FrenchVerbs> Yeah, everyone I've tried so far.
#1002 [16:05] <itzmjauz> Your being hunted by them....
#1003 [16:05] <lutzee> Try a forceupdate.
#1004 [16:05] <itzmjauz> You're *
#1005 [16:05] <FrenchVerbs> I already tried that to no avail.
#1006 [16:06] <itzmjauz> I once put water on top of a hill, my house being about 10 blocks further.
#1007 [16:06] <itzmjauz> A few minutes later it was raining pigs.
#1008 [16:06] <FLHerne> A lot of people moaned on the forums when 1.3 came out, but they seem to have stopped :P
#1009 [16:06] <itzmjauz> I don't know how the hell i did that.
#1010 [16:06] * FLHerne loves Minecraft's inexplicably absurd bugs :D
#1010 [16:07] <itzmjauz> FLHerne: I agree :P.
#1011 [16:07] <itzmjauz> I loved the flying squids.
#1012 [16:07] <FLHerne> Watching boats levitate through the ceiling is always fun :-)
#1013 [16:07] <FrenchVerbs> The flying squids were cool
#1014 [16:07] * FLHerne missed the squids
#1014 [16:07] <FLHerne> What version was that?
#1015 [16:07] <itzmjauz> The next patch the squids were fixed. But then it was ocelotes flying
#1016 [16:08] <itzmjauz> I think before the ocelote one, not sure
#1017 [16:08] <FLHerne> I remember one version at least squid spawned on land :-)
#1018 [16:08] <itzmjauz> Tekkit made the flying squids come back btw :3
#1019 [16:08] <itzmjauz> On 1.3
#1020 [16:08] <itzmjauz> (I think)
#1021 [16:09] <FLHerne> itzmjauz: Most recent Tekkit doesn't seem to have flying squid :P
#1022 [16:09] <itzmjauz> FLHerne: One of the mods in it must have caused that
#1023 [16:09] <itzmjauz> FLHerne: Wasn't recent.
#1024 [16:10] <Smanly> Steves everywhere!
#1025 [16:10] <Smanly> http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/
#1026 [16:11] * itzmjauz Likes that homepage.
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#1027 [16:11] <lutzee> Smanly: help.mojang.com ;)
#1028 [16:12] <Smanly> yeah right
#1029 [16:12] <Smanly> Minecraft skins
#1030 [16:12] <Smanly> This service is healthy. All is good!
#1031 [16:12] <Smanly> Totally
#1032 [16:12] <Smanly> help.mojang.com is always messed up.
#1033 [16:14] <lutzee> Bah, probably load balencer again
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#1046 [16:41] <coco> what do i do if minecraft on mac says its damaged
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#1049 [16:42] <puffrfish> ??> index
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#1051 [16:42] <coco> what does that mean
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#1054 [16:43] <puffrfish> well..if I could remember how to get that list up I would have told you
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#1056 [16:52] <Whatshiywl> i need some help with this error when trying to log in http://pastie.org/5054155
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#1059 [16:55] <lutzee> puffrfish: that would have been an ?? mac/gatekeeper btw.
#1060 [16:55] <puffrfish> thank you
#1061 [16:55] <puffrfish> what's the one for the index?
#1062 [16:55] <lutzee> don't use ??> that is only for directing it at someone
#1063 [16:56] <puffrfish> ah, okay
#1064 [16:56] <DiskDaemon> ?? help
#1065 [16:56] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#1066 [16:56] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#1067 [16:56] <puffrfish> ??< index
#1068 [16:57] <puffrfish> that's what I was thinking of
#1069 [16:57] <Whatshiywl> eh
#1070 [16:57] <Whatshiywl> ??< index
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#1073 [16:59] <Whatshiywl> ??< error/javacrash
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#1075 [17:06] <FLHerne> ??> index
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#1077 [17:09] <sdfghjk> i bought minecraft and its saying im not premium
#1078 [17:10] <FLHerne> sdfghjk: Username?
#1079 [17:10] <sdfghjk> deathproxtra
#1080 [17:10] <FLHerne> !paid deathproxtra
#1081 [17:11] <FLHerne> Oh drat, has the bot crashed?
#1082 [17:11] <FLHerne> Who here can do accounts? :P
#1083 [17:12] <puffrfish> The account "deathproxtra" is not a premium Minecraft account!
#1084 [17:13] <FLHerne> puffrfish: ?
#1085 [17:13] <puffrfish> I checked on another bot
#1086 [17:13] <FLHerne> Which one?
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#1089 [17:13] <puffrfish> it's not in this channel
#1090 [17:13] * FLHerne gets fed up of the million bots on here :P
#1090 [17:14] <puffrfish> I think WugBot can do it too, but I don't remember the command
#1091 [17:14] <sdfghjk> i payed it like 3 hours ago
#1092 [17:14] <sdfghjk> and my friend too
#1093 [17:14] <FLHerne> sdfghjk: Did you receive a transaction ID?
#1094 [17:14] <sdfghjk> yes
#1095 [17:15] <lutzee> ;hp deathproxtra
#1096 [17:15] <WugBot> deathproxtra has NOT paid for minecraft.
#1097 [17:15] <sdfghjk> yes i have
#1098 [17:15] <lutzee> sdfghjk: How did you pay?
#1099 [17:16] <FLHerne> Minecraft's servers don't think so :P
#1100 [17:16] <sdfghjk> with a credit card of coarse
#1101 [17:16] <lutzee> sdfghjk: You will need to check with your banking institution that the payment has occured.
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#1103 [17:17] <sdfghjk> how come i got a payment id
#1104 [17:17] <FLHerne> Do any of the things on here apply to you? http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1105 [17:20] <sdfghjk> why is it so complicated i just want what my money gets me
#1106 [17:21] <FLHerne> sdfghjk: Are you paying from the US?
#1107 [17:21] <sdfghjk> yes
#1108 [17:21] <FLHerne> Mojang are in Sweden, it tends to confuse US banks :P
#1109 [17:21] <FLHerne> They get a bit paranoid about overseas transfers ;-0
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#1113 [17:24] <sdfghjk> i guess ill try it again
#1114 [17:25] <sdfghjk> but why are the minecraft.net servers running so slow
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#1116 [17:27] <FLHerne> sdfghjk: Your bank might be blocking the payment
#1117 [17:27] <FLHerne> As lutzee suggested, you should check with them
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#1119 [17:29] <sdfghjk> ok ill check with my bank
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#1121 [17:30] <BadCow> hello. i am having an issue with minecraft and hope someone can help me fix it
#1122 [17:30] <FLHerne> BadCow: What is it?
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#1124 [17:30] * FLHerne is baffled by these people
#1124 [17:30] * FLHerne is baffled by these people
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#1125 [17:34] <carolus412> As the AuBot says, you can just ask. Don't ask to ask.
#1126 [17:34] <carolus412> Oh. Didn
#1127 [17:35] <carolus412> *'t see that he had quit
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#1141 [18:06] <ollew5> I'm getting the error java.socket.serverException. How can I fix that?
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#1145 [18:13] <gairah> hey
#1146 [18:14] <gairah> i bought a prepaid card and activated it, but ti still says my account is not premium
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#1148 [18:16] <FLHerne> gairah: Mmm
#1149 [18:16] <FLHerne> Sorry, I don't know much account stuff :P
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#1151 [18:18] <gairah> alright
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#1153 [18:20] <FLHerne> Someone else might, wait a few minutes :-)
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#1155 [18:21] <gairah> can do
#1156 [18:22] <FLHerne> Sorry :-(
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#1159 [18:27] <gairah> i bought a prepaid card and activated it, but ti still says my account is not premium
#1160 [18:28] <Grim_Reaper> Where did you buy from gairah?
#1161 [18:28] <gairah> best buy
#1162 [18:28] <Grim_Reaper> ?? scam
#1163 [18:28] <VoxelHead> scam: If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#1164 [18:28] <VoxelHead> scam: DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
#1165 [18:29] <lukegb> ahem.
#1166 [18:29] <lukegb> Grim_Reaper: https://minecraft.net/prepaid
#1167 [18:29] <puffrfish> gairah: what is your account name?
#1168 [18:29] <FLHerne> Grim_Reaper: You're outdated;-)
#1169 [18:29] <lukegb> Grim_Reaper: VoxelHead's messages are old :P
#1170 [18:29] <Grim_Reaper> Oh sorry didn't the prepaid card bit
#1171 [18:29] <Kyron> Whats you account name gairah
#1172 [18:29] <Grim_Reaper> didn't read
#1173 [18:29] <Grim_Reaper> Kinda half asleep
#1174 [18:30] <Kyron> We can check to see if it's listed as premium
#1175 [18:30] <gairah> its not mine. its one i bought for my sis. its HyperMonkey1
#1176 [18:30] <lutzee> ;hp HyperMonkey1
#1177 [18:30] <WugBot> HyperMonkey1 has NOT paid for minecraft.
#1178 [18:30] <lutzee> Hmm
#1179 [18:30] <Kyron> How long ago did you activate it?
#1180 [18:30] <Kyron> it might take some time
#1181 [18:31] <Kyron> If it was over an hour or so, try to activate the card again.
#1182 [18:31] <Grim_Reaper> I think the best thing you could do is email Mojang if it's still not premium within 24 hours or so
#1183 [18:31] <Kyron> Is the card useable?
#1184 [18:31] <gairah> on the mojang site it says it is good. can i check what the username of my minecraft account is attached to my mojang
#1185 [18:31] <Kyron> If you can still use it you should try again
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#1187 [18:31] <gairah> i did, it said "Your account already owns minecraft"
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#1189 [18:32] <Grim_Reaper> And you're logging in with your email correct?
#1190 [18:32] <gairah> mhmm
#1191 [18:32] <gairah> wait, logging in to the minecraft client?
#1192 [18:33] <Grim_Reaper> Yes
#1193 [18:33] <gairah> oh hey...lol thankies so much
#1194 [18:34] <gairah> that worked
#1195 [18:34] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1196 [18:35] <Grim_Reaper> You should have premium and all that. If that isn't the case. Let us know :3
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#1199 [18:39] <daSDK> I do not know if everyone is getting this...
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#1201 [18:39] <daSDK> It looks like some server is down since "bad login"
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#1203 [18:40] <lutzee> daSDK: restart the game
#1204 [18:41] <daSDK> Noes, still..
#1205 [18:41] <daSDK> Wait let me ping
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#1207 [18:42] <lukegb> Zengh: where did you buy it from?
#1208 [18:42] <Zengh> i've purchased minecraft but game client says it cant connect minecraft.net, how can i play? why isnt there any instructions on the website, did i pay for nothing??
#1209 [18:42] <Zengh> i bought it from mojang
#1210 [18:42] <Zengh> website
#1211 [18:42] <daSDK> mojang.com?
#1212 [18:42] <daSDK> or minecraft.net?
#1213 [18:42] <Zengh> let me check
#1214 [18:43] <lutzee> Zengh: what antivirus do you use?
#1215 [18:43] <daSDK> Zengh: What is your minecraft username.
#1216 [18:43] <Zengh> i can see my account details from https://account.mojang.com/me/settings
#1217 [18:43] <Zengh> so i bought it from there then
#1218 [18:43] <daSDK> What is your minecraft username
#1219 [18:43] <Zengh> Zengh
#1220 [18:43] <daSDK> Ok
#1221 [18:43] <daSDK> !paid Zengh
#1222 [18:44] <lutzee> Zengh: what antivirus do you use?
#1223 [18:44] <daSDK> Ok so it is legit
#1224 [18:44] <Zengh> Eset
#1225 [18:44] <lutzee> Ahh.. such joy
#1226 [18:44] <lutzee> Zengh: some versions of ESET are known to cause problems with minecraft
#1227 [18:45] <Zengh> what sohul i do exaclty?
#1228 [18:45] <lutzee> At the moment the only solution that has been found is to remove ESET, unless you feel up to trauling though its settings to find what is causing the problem
#1229 [18:45] <Zengh> i may uninstall it
#1230 [18:46] <Zengh> to see if it works
#1231 [18:46] <daSDK> Is there a setting to allow jarfiles
#1232 [18:46] <Zengh> but i feel so anrgy because there is no instruction or anything on the site, i just paid it but i couldnt see anything yet, for hours
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#1234 [18:47] <lutzee> daSDK: at the moment we don't know, the other people who had the issue apparently completely disabled everything they could find in the settings, but to no avail
#1235 [18:47] <daSDK> Ah
#1236 [18:47] <daSDK> Ah
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#1238 [18:47] <FLHerne> Zengh: Your antivirus may be blocking Minecraft from connecting to the login auth servers
#1239 [18:47] <lutzee> FLHerne: s/may/is/
#1240 [18:48] <Zengh> should i know about computer things to play a game? i am a player not a system administrator, i paid for this and i want to get it
#1241 [18:48] <FLHerne> Mojang can't really do anything about incurably overzealous antivirus programs, unfortunately
#1242 [18:48] <Zengh> ok i will uninstall it
#1243 [18:48] <Zengh> and i will come back
#1244 [18:48] <FLHerne> They can't auto-disable your antivirus, for obvious reasons ;-)
#1245 [18:49] <Zengh> but i paid for this antivirus as well
#1246 [18:49] <lutzee> Zengh: this is our main problem, we can't troubleshoot because we can't buy the AV just for testing purposes
#1247 [18:49] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1248 [18:50] <lutzee> We can point you in the direction of a free anti-virus which would be Microsoft Security Essentials
#1249 [18:50] <Zengh> i will redirect my questions to eset if this solves problem
#1250 [18:51] <lutzee> If you feel happy with doing that, sure, it would be useful to us to know what is causing the issue
#1251 [18:51] <FLHerne> Anyone know which ports/protocols MC uses?
#1252 [18:51] <FLHerne> [for login auth of course, not MP servers]
#1253 [18:52] <lutzee> Er they are http requests i believe
#1254 [18:52] <lutzee> or https
#1255 [18:53] <FLHerne> Odd, why would an AV block that?
#1256 [18:54] <lutzee> Its the application it doesn't like, not the port requests
#1257 [18:55] <FLHerne> lutzee: So...it has a hardcoded, no-user-editable list of applications to be allowed http access?
#1258 [18:55] <FLHerne> Since when does that make sense?
#1259 [18:55] * FLHerne doesn't get the idea :P
#1259 [18:55] <lutzee> No...
#1260 [18:56] <FLHerne> Well, how can it 'not like' specific applications? How does it decide what to 'like'?
#1261 [18:56] <lutzee> The method that AVs use to determin a bad appplication is completely unknown
#1262 [18:58] <lutzee> aww L4D is still quite expensive on the steam store, i was hoping for a bundle of 1 and 2 :(
#1263 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> Wait till the holiday sales
#1264 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> L4D's always cheap around christmas time
#1265 [19:01] <lutzee> mm, i need something to pass the time.. i completed portal 2 in like 8 hours :/
#1266 [19:02] <FLHerne> lutzee: 0ad? (RTS, free/OSS) :-)
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#1269 [19:05] <Zengh> hello again
#1270 [19:05] <Zengh> i got help from here just a few minutes ago, right?
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#1272 [19:05] <lukegb> Zengh: yup.
#1273 [19:06] <Zengh> your help worked and i could login successfully
#1274 [19:06] <Zengh> thank you so much
#1275 [19:06] <Zengh> i can never work it out myself
#1276 [19:07] <Zengh> i am very appreciated
#1277 [19:07] <Zengh> see you later
#1278 [19:07] <FLHerne> Zengh: People who come back and thank are nice :-)
#1279 [19:07] <FLHerne> Have fun
#1280 [19:07] <lukegb> ^
#1281 [19:07] <lukegb> ^
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#1283 [19:07] <lutzee> Mmm, ESET strikes again..
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#1309 [20:03] <chazor> hey guys how are all of you doing
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#1312 [20:05] <zyperog> hi my friend cant upload minecraft because his computer isnt good enough is there a way to refund him?
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#1314 [20:06] <Foreve> is there anyway i can get my money back?
#1315 [20:06] <chazor> mine craft was running fine on my dell d620 (ubuntu) then i tried to install a couple mods onto it then black screen so i closed everything then uninstalled everything minecraft and then re ran the launcher jar now im still getting the black screen and the new .mincraft folder only has the bin file in it nothing else
#1316 [20:06] <chazor> what did i screw up?
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#1318 [20:07] <Foreve> my computer does not have a good enought gfx card is there any easy way to fix this
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#1320 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Foreve - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
#1321 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Foreve - What graphics card do you have?
#1322 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> chazor - Try a Force Update through the launcher's options menu
#1323 [20:07] <chazor> have tried that
#1324 [20:08] <chazor> same result
#1325 [20:08] <chazor> same result
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#1327 [20:08] <chazor> ive tried rebooting after uninstalling then re installing ive tried purging anything assosiated with minecraft from ubuntu
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#1329 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> chazor - Does the launcher actually say it's downloading any files when you try to log in?
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#1331 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried rm -rf ~/.minecraft ?
#1332 [20:09] <chazor> when i force update? yes
#1333 [20:09] <chazor> rf ~/.minecraft ??
#1334 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> or even just mv ~/.minecraft <some other directory>
#1335 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> I'll take it you're not a command line *nix user..
#1336 [20:10] <chazor> not yet sorry working on that
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#1338 [20:11] <chazor> mine craft did this on my wifes d630 about a month ago aswell shes running win 7
#1339 [20:11] <chazor> minecraft*
#1340 [20:11] <Guy> How does one set up an ICBM server?
#1341 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Well, minecraft stores its files in your home directory, under the '.minecraft' folder
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#1343 [20:11] <chazor> yes i know that
#1344 [20:11] <FLHerne> Guy: Assuming that's some kind of mod, like a normal server but modded :P
#1345 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> If you delete it, it should redownload it once you launch minecraft again. Does it successfully download the files?
#1346 [20:12] <chazor> ive removed the .minecraft folder a few times and tried to re install it
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#1348 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Or do you see minecraft getting stuck on a certain file, or a % of the download?
#1349 [20:12] <Guest56113> So, to set up the ICBM server do I just go into the minecraft_server.jar and use the client mods?
#1350 [20:13] <chazor> it finishes but when i look in the .minecraft folder its only a bin folder none other
#1351 [20:13] <chazor> doesnt get stuck
#1352 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Usually indicative of some other problem. Java installed correctly?
#1353 [20:13] <chazor> then every time i try to open it again it says updaing for a breif moment then goes to black screen
#1354 [20:14] <chazor> installed java via terminal
#1355 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> What version, do you know?
#1356 [20:15] <chazor> sudo apt-get purg openjdk* , then installed open jdk from sofware center
#1357 [20:15] <FLHerne> Guest56113: No, you would use server mods :P
#1358 [20:15] <FLHerne> Why would you use client mods on the server?
#1359 [20:15] <chazor> minecraft version?
#1360 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Try getting Oracle's Java, instead of OpenJDK
#1361 [20:15] <chazor> umm witchever one the site downloads i was asuming it was 1.3.2
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#1363 [20:16] <chazor> oracles java lags terribly tho
#1364 [20:16] <chazor> and it was working fin :(
#1365 [20:16] <chazor> fine*
#1366 [20:16] <chazor> but hang on ill try it
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#1368 [20:17] <FLHerne> chazor: Minecraft clients on Linux don't seem to like Java 7 IME
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#1370 [20:18] <chazor> but it did the same thing on wifes win 7:\
#1371 [20:18] <chazor> the win 7 laptop eventualy just started plaing minecraft again after nothing was done to it
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#1373 [20:19] <yana76> i just downloaded minecraft to my comp and can not seem to get it to run. i changed the comp to win7 however when i try to open it. noting happens. any advice?
#1374 [20:19] <Steff_> I want to delete my Minecraft account. How can I do that?
#1375 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Steff_ - It is not possible to do that at this time
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#1377 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> yana76 - Ensure java is installed?
#1378 [20:21] <yana76> yeah. installed that first
#1379 [20:21] <Minecrafter331> I cant login to servers on minecraft. Im running a snapshot
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#1381 [20:22] <Steff_> Ok. When will I be able to? I never bought the game or anything. I just created an account, thinking I was going to but now I no long want it.
#1382 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Steff_ - We know of no plans to implement that.
#1383 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> yana76 - Then try updating your video card's drivers.
#1384 [20:23] <yana76> its a new comp. all drivers are up todate.
#1385 [20:24] <adam_lav> Ok, so i didnt know i needed to migrate my account and so i spent the last 10 mins trying to log in normally. When i finally figured out that i needed to migrate it i entered my username and password at the point where i migrate it and it said "Too many failed attempts"
#1386 [20:24] <adam_lav> what can i do about that?
#1387 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> adam_lav - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/781529-too-many-failed-logins-error
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#1390 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> yana76 - Video drivers are frequently updated from the manufacturer. Do you know what video card you have, and where to find updated drivers for it?
#1391 [20:25] <adam_lav> thank you! can you tell me how long it usually takes to reset?
#1392 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> adam_lav - Try again after an hour.
#1393 [20:26] <garetttodd> when i used my prepaid gift card i didnt have premium so i couldnt play.what do i have to do to upgrade to premium
#1394 [20:26] <adam_lav> ok, thanks again!
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#1397 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> garetttodd - Ensure that the transaction was successful. A successful transaction is one that will leave you a receipt from the payment processor and an email containing a transaction ID as proof of payment
#1398 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> I'd first call that prepaid card's customer service, and request a transaction history. Ensure a transaction was made successfully to Mojang
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#1403 [20:29] <chazor> ill be right back will thisngs are installing nature calls
#1404 [20:30] <Scott> I don't hear it calling D:
#1405 [20:31] <chazor> false alarm >.<
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#1407 [20:32] <ElementGod98> how do I get Texture Packs?
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#1416 [20:43] <johnnyman458> hello i have 2 problems, 1st of all and most important, when i start the demo or offline version it will freeze at done loading, the 2nd is im having trouble connecting to minecraft
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#1418 [20:45] <johnnyman458> ive tryed pretty much everthing
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#1420 [20:46] <chazor> ok javas almost finished
#1421 [20:47] <chazor> ok its done
#1422 [20:47] <johnnyman458> hello i have 2 problems, 1st of all and most important, when i start the demo or offline version it will freeze at done loading, the 2nd is im having trouble connecting to minecraft
#1423 [20:47] <johnnyman458> can uhelp
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#1427 [20:49] <chazor> still black screen ganna reboot and see if that helps
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#1429 [20:50] <chazor_> ok what did you say?
#1430 [20:51] <chazor_> herd the messege after it started to reboot
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#1432 [20:51] <garetttodd> how do i get a premium account
#1433 [20:52] <chazor_> still black screen
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#1435 [20:53] <chazor_> im about ready to wipe and reinstall ubuntu and see if that does it
#1436 [20:53] <chazor_> this is friggin annoying
#1437 [20:53] <chazor_> it was working fine now nothing but a black screen
#1438 [20:54] <chazor_> 0normally i wouldnt complain because i have minecraft on the xbox as well but im waiting foor the update im kinda board of the 360 version
#1439 [20:54] <lutzee> Er whats the conntents of ~/.minecraft currently?
#1440 [20:54] <chazor_> me?
#1441 [20:55] <lutzee> Yes
#1442 [20:55] <chazor_> bin folder and last login
#1443 [20:55] <chazor_> nothing else
#1444 [20:55] <lutzee> And in the bin folder?
#1445 [20:56] <garetttodd> hello
#1446 [20:56] <lutzee> garetttodd: buy buing the game.
#1447 [20:56] <lutzee> er
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#1449 [20:56] <lutzee> By buying *
#1450 [20:57] <chazor_> natives, jinput.jar, lwjgl.jar, lwjgl_util.jar, md5s, minecraft.jar, version
#1451 [20:57] <lutzee> hmm
#1452 [20:58] <garetttodd> i bought the game and went to run the fies and it said i had to have a premium account
#1453 [20:59] <lutzee> open terminal, navigate to where the launcher is, and run java -jar minecraft.jar in the from the terminal, it should start the launcher and output any errors to the terminal
#1454 [20:59] <lutzee> garetttodd: How did you pay for the game?
#1455 [21:00] <garetttodd> with a prepaid card
#1456 [21:00] <lutzee> Ah.. is this one of the minecraft branded cards? Or just a standard prepaid visa?
#1457 [21:01] <Yerg> Didn't GreyVulpine tell you to call your card's customer support number to ensure payment was sent?
#1458 [21:01] <chazor_> how do i do that?
#1459 [21:01] <garetttodd> a minecraft prepaid gift card that they sell at wallmart, target, and best buy
#1460 [21:01] <chazor_> how do i cd to my desktop
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#1462 [21:02] <chazor_> newer to linux lines >.<
#1463 [21:02] <lutzee> chazor_: /home/usernamehere/Desktop
#1464 [21:03] <chazor_> ty one sec
#1465 [21:03] <Yerg> garetttodd - what is your minecraft username?
#1466 [21:03] <garetttodd> XxRAJUNxCAJUNxX
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#1469 [21:05] <chazor_> it launched it like the launcher icon does O.o
#1470 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> !paid XxRAJUNxCAJUNxX
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#1472 [21:06] <lutzee> chazor_: yes it should, log in
#1473 [21:06] <lutzee> Any errors will appear in the terminal
#1474 [21:06] <Barnyard_Owl> !paid Barnyard_Owl
#1475 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> doesn't look like the transaction was complete
#1476 [21:06] <garetttodd> ya he has
#1477 [21:07] <chazor_> just started a new line still blackscreen and nothing in terminal
#1478 [21:08] <lutzee> Odd.. Well as its ubuntu all i can guess it could be is stupid lwjgl having a fit over the natives..
#1479 [21:08] <lutzee> chazor_: try this http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#1480 [21:09] <chazor_> but as ive stated befor its done this on wifes win 7
#1481 [21:09] <chazor_> bhut hers fixed it self
#1482 [21:09] <lutzee> Ubuntu is... well picky
#1483 [21:09] <lutzee> Especially when it comes to what java you use
#1484 [21:09] <lutzee> Best one to use is Sun java
#1485 [21:10] <chazor_> i had it running at first on open jdk
#1486 [21:10] <chazor_> then i installed oracle
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#1488 [21:11] <chazor_> after purging open jdk of course
#1489 [21:12] <lutzee> Well then, try updating lwjgl thats pretty much all i can suggest without an error log
#1490 [21:12] <lutzee> I need to learn more about linux shell scripts..
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#1492 [21:15] <chazor_> YAY i love you (no homo
#1493 [21:15] <chazor_> MINECRAFT!!
#1494 [21:15] <chazor_> >.>
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#1496 [21:15] <chazor_> ok so now ill back the .minecraft folder up before i mod O.o
#1497 [21:15] <lutzee> Now to discover other better linux distros! :D
#1498 [21:15] <chazor_> all i want is optifine >.<
#1499 [21:16] <chazor_> i normaly use puppy linux and mint lol
#1500 [21:16] <lutzee> Oh my i remember puppy linux... i used it on an old ex school tablet PC
#1501 [21:17] <chazor_> i just dont have any dvds and cant find my usbs :( just had the ubuntu 12.04 disk laying around
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#1503 [21:17] <chazor_> i had to pawn my other laptop witch is newer but cant run minecraft O.o
#1504 [21:18] <lutzee> Probably was just bad graphics drivers...
#1505 [21:20] <lutzee> This is qhy i love mods.. :3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcRQSr0LczE
#1506 [21:20] <lutzee> why*
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#1508 [21:23] <zyngawow> Is there any way to break a block automatically on minecraft?(for a cobble gen)
#1509 [21:24] <chazor_> nope it will run but has like 2fps
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#1511 [21:24] <chazor_> now is there a program for linux like mcpatcher?
#1512 [21:25] <chazor_> or do i need to do it manualy
#1513 [21:26] <Tmil2000> hi its tmil2000 again i was here earlier i talk with grey V he gave me a link to download the graphics card minecraft now says Bad Video Card Driver
#1514 [21:27] * lutzee nudges GreyVulpine ^
#1514 [21:29] <lutzee> chazor_: er, it's probably better to do it manually anyway, unless Mcpatcher comes in a .jar form
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#1516 [21:29] <lutzee> Bah sleep time.
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#1518 [21:31] <Tmil2000> Is Grey V online
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#1520 [21:33] <Tmil2000> If not can anyone help me
#1521 [21:34] <adam_lav> well i waited about an hour i believe and it doesnt say I have had too many failed attempts anymore. It just says it doesnt recognize my username and password. It is my minecraft username and the password i have used to sign in before. i dont know why nothing is recognizing me now. and help?
#1522 [21:37] <adam_lav> i know my username and i know my password but when i use them it doesnt recognize me, whats wrong?
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#1524 [21:38] <ninjatak> minecraft wont work for my windows 7 laptop how can i make it work?
#1525 [21:39] <adam_lav> @greyvulpine can you help me?
#1526 [21:40] <ninjatak> can anyone help me please?
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#1528 [21:41] <Tmil2000> can i ask anyone a Question
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#1530 [21:44] <hi> hey
#1531 [21:45] <hi> is there anything i can do to make minecraft run smoother?
#1532 [21:45] <hi> i tried optifine but it didn't really do anything
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#1539 [22:00] <pyromaniac3814> hey can i break obsidian with my hand ? and sry about spelling
#1540 [22:00] <zack6849> no, you can't
#1541 [22:00] <pyromaniac3814> when was that added ?
#1542 [22:00] <zack6849> the only thing that can break obsidian is a diamond pickaxe/
#1543 [22:01] <pyromaniac3814> not mine i want to break it
#1544 [22:01] <pyromaniac3814> like how you can break stone with your hand
#1545 [22:02] <pyromaniac3814> so you cant break it with your hand like stone ?
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#1547 [22:02] <pyromaniac3814> wait can i break stone with my hand ?
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#1549 [22:04] <pyromaniac3814> so can i break stone with my hand ?
#1550 [22:04] <Barnyard_Owl> Yes, you can.
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#1552 [22:05] <Barnyard_Owl> It takes rather long time, though, pyromaniac3814.
#1553 [22:05] <Barnyard_Owl> If you break stone with your hand, it will not drop cobblestone, which you can pick up.
#1554 [22:05] <pyromaniac3814> how about obsidain ?
#1555 [22:06] <Barnyard_Owl> Well, you can, but it takes somewhere around 2 minutes per piece of obsidian
#1556 [22:06] <Barnyard_Owl> So it's not exactly what you'd call... prefered.
#1557 [22:06] <pyromaniac3814> lol
#1558 [22:06] <pyromaniac3814> i was reading the wiki
#1559 [22:06] <Barnyard_Owl> The only thing you cannot break with your fists is bedrock, which nothing can break.
#1560 [22:07] <Barnyard_Owl> Yes, you can break diamonds with your fists.
#1561 [22:07] <pyromaniac3814> ok then thats what i wanted to know
#1562 [22:07] <Barnyard_Owl> Although, don't expect any diamonds coming down from it.
#1563 [22:07] <pyromaniac3814> i dont i was just cheaking because i never have the time to sit and mine it with my hand
#1564 [22:08] <pyromaniac3814> also im looking for some ne redstone things to add to my castle and ideas ?
#1565 [22:08] <pyromaniac3814> new*
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#1567 [22:08] <Barnyard_Owl> Well, what exactly do you mean?
#1568 [22:08] <Barnyard_Owl> Piston doors?
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#1570 [22:09] <pyromaniac3814> idk i have a lot of stuff allready im just looking for some cool things to add to my floating castle
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#1572 [22:09] <Barnyard_Owl> pyromaniac3814, I figure you are new to minecraft? :P
#1573 [22:10] <pyromaniac3814> no im not
#1574 [22:10] <Barnyard_Owl> Oh, ok.
#1575 [22:10] <Wug> zack6849: derp
#1576 [22:10] <pyromaniac3814> lol
#1577 [22:10] <zack6849> Wut?
#1578 [22:10] <zack6849> ._.
#1579 [22:10] <Wug> yes, you can break obsidian with your hand
#1580 [22:10] <zack6849> wug, y u no love me
#1581 [22:10] <Wug> it takes 75 seconds
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#1583 [22:11] <zack6849> oh, silly me.
#1584 [22:11] <pyromaniac3814> 250 seconds
#1585 [22:11] <zack6849> all hail the might wug.
#1586 [22:11] <pyromaniac3814> says the wiki
#1587 [22:11] <Wug> is it 250
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#1589 [22:11] <pyromaniac3814> i didnt know if that meant with hands or not
#1590 [22:11] <Zyborg_M> Excuse me...
#1591 [22:11] <Zyborg_M> I'm having trouble with getting Minecraft to start.
#1592 [22:11] <pyromaniac3814> so new redstone things to add ?
#1593 [22:12] <Barnyard_Owl> It takes somewhere AROUND 2 minutes to break obsidian with your fists. I'm not stating an exact time.
#1594 [22:12] <zack6849> Zyborg_M, whats the issue? :3
#1595 [22:12] <Wug> they must have changed it... it used to be 75
#1596 [22:12] <Zyborg_M> I log in, it starts to load, then it closes.
#1597 [22:12] <zack6849> o_0
#1598 [22:12] <pyromaniac3814> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Digging
#1599 [22:12] <zack6849> no error?
#1600 [22:12] <Zyborg_M> And generates an error text file.
#1601 [22:12] <Barnyard_Owl> Zyborg_M, can you give us an error report?
#1602 [22:12] <Zyborg_M> Um... sure.
#1603 [22:12] <Zyborg_M> How?
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#1605 [22:12] <Barnyard_Owl> www.pastebin.com
#1606 [22:12] <Zyborg_M> K
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#1608 [22:12] <Barnyard_Owl> Paste it in there, don't throw it in the irc
#1609 [22:13] <Barnyard_Owl> And then give us the link to the paste, of course.
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#1613 [22:13] <pyromaniac3814> so any ideas for redstone stuff ? i have quite a few devices allready i want to have some more
#1614 [22:15] <Zyborg_M> http://pastebin.com/TtLafy5Z
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#1616 [22:16] <Barnyard_Owl> Zyborg_M, do you have any mods?
#1617 [22:16] <Zyborg_M> Nope.
#1618 [22:16] <pyromaniac3814> i have a cobble generator, piston doors ,tnt traps,minecarts,a locking vault with pass code auto farm and full auto farm
#1619 [22:16] <Barnyard_Owl> Ok, back to scanning the error report.
#1620 [22:17] <Barnyard_Owl> Zyborg_M, what version of Java are you using?
#1621 [22:18] <Zyborg_M> Version?
#1622 [22:18] <Zyborg_M> Just a sec
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#1624 [22:20] <pyromaniac3814> and about the whole can i mine stone question it was because im using version 1.7.3 and i wanted to know if it changes with the updates
#1625 [22:22] <Zyborg_M> OKay...
#1626 [22:23] <Zyborg_M> Java version 1.7.0_07
#1627 [22:23] <Barnyard_Owl> What version, on here: http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre
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#1629 [22:24] <Barnyard_Owl> Version {} Update {}
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#1631 [22:24] <Barnyard_Owl> Not sure if that is wrong.
#1632 [22:24] <Barnyard_Owl> 2 fairly-important things I found:
#1633 [22:25] <Barnyard_Owl> Reason of crash "Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows"
#1634 [22:25] <Zyborg_M> Version 7 update 7
#1635 [22:25] <Barnyard_Owl> Ok, good
#1636 [22:25] <Barnyard_Owl> That nullifies that possibility
#1637 [22:25] <Barnyard_Owl> Hmm
#1638 [22:26] <Barnyard_Owl> Inside that error report: "compacting perm gen total 12800K, used 12733K"
#1639 [22:26] <Barnyard_Owl> "the space 12800K, 99% used"
#1640 [22:26] <Barnyard_Owl> I'm not an expert on this, but using 99% of your memory doesn't seem like a good thing
#1641 [22:27] <Zyborg_M> Huh.
#1642 [22:27] <Zyborg_M> That shouldn't be happening.
#1643 [22:27] <Zyborg_M> Nothing else is showing anything about that.
#1644 [22:28] <Barnyard_Owl> def new generation & tenured generation seem to be other heap spaces...
#1645 [22:28] <Barnyard_Owl> I was expecting an easy error report, but that I did not get.
#1646 [22:28] <Zyborg_M> Any programs that I should run as diagnostics?
#1647 [22:28] <Barnyard_Owl> So, I reccomend you ask someone of higher knowledge in these issues about this.
#1648 [22:29] <Barnyard_Owl> *recommend
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#1650 [22:29] <Zyborg_M> Werll... thanks for trying to help...
#1651 [22:29] <Barnyard_Owl> And don't forget to give that link, http://pastebin.com/TtLafy5Z , to anyone you tell about this.
#1652 [22:30] <Barnyard_Owl> Good luck :/
#1653 [22:30] <Zyborg_M> Thanks.
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#1655 [22:33] <Zyborg_M> Who/when should I ask?
#1656 [22:34] <Barnyard_Owl> Other people on this channel, idk who.
#1657 [22:34] <Barnyard_Owl> Try doing it at other times.
#1658 [22:34] <Barnyard_Owl> You probably don't want to do it at 10:30...
#1659 [22:35] <Zyborg_M> ...
#1660 [22:35] <Zyborg_M> thanks for the luck
#1661 [22:35] <Deleters> Zyborg_M
#1662 [22:35] <Deleters> How much ram do you have?
#1663 [22:35] <Zyborg_M> It has gotten further than last time.
#1664 [22:35] <Barnyard_Owl> ^^ Someone to help you
#1665 [22:35] <Zyborg_M> But still closed, darn.
#1666 [22:35] <Zyborg_M> How much RAM?
#1667 [22:35] <Deleters> Yesh
#1668 [22:35] <Zyborg_M> Sec
#1669 [22:35] <pyromaniac3814> i need new ideas lol i need something to distract me so i dont go mad waiting for the beta 1.8.2 update
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#1671 [22:37] <Deleters> ...
#1672 [22:37] <Deleters> Pyro, there is no beta 1.8 update anymore
#1673 [22:38] <pyromaniac3814> hahah there is
#1674 [22:38] <Barnyard_Owl> ...
#1675 [22:38] <pyromaniac3814> depends on what version of minecraft you are using
#1676 [22:38] <Barnyard_Owl> WTF are you trying to do, pyro?
#1677 [22:38] <Zyborg_M> 1.46
#1678 [22:38] <Zyborg_M> ...
#1679 [22:38] <Zyborg_M> GB
#1680 [22:39] <Barnyard_Owl> Umm
#1681 [22:39] <Barnyard_Owl> That is rather small
#1682 [22:39] <pyromaniac3814> the xbox 360 edition is in beta 1.7.3
#1683 [22:39] <Barnyard_Owl> This is a laptop & I have...
#1684 [22:39] <Barnyard_Owl> 6 GB
#1685 [22:39] <Barnyard_Owl> That's what I thought :P
#1686 [22:40] <Barnyard_Owl> I suggest a restart, to give your computer that full 1.46 GB of RAM
#1687 [22:40] <Barnyard_Owl> Then, try running MC
#1688 [22:40] <pyromaniac3814> @barnyard_owl im trying to not go insain waiting for the next update i need new things to build
#1689 [22:41] <Zyborg_M> Didn't work...
#1690 [22:41] <Zyborg_M> Why so low?
#1691 [22:42] <Barnyard_Owl> pyromaniac3814, perhaps you should try "force updating"...
#1692 [22:42] <pyromaniac3814> sry i dont think you are understanding me
#1693 [22:43] <pyromaniac3814> im using the beta 1.7.3
#1694 [22:43] <Barnyard_Owl> I realize you are.
#1695 [22:43] <Deleters> And why are you, pyro?
#1696 [22:43] <pyromaniac3814> waiting for the new beta 1.8.2 to come out in a week or two
#1697 [22:43] <pyromaniac3814> because
#1698 [22:44] <pyromaniac3814> thats the best we have right now
#1699 [22:44] <Deleters> You cannot upgrade?
#1700 [22:44] <pyromaniac3814> no i cant
#1701 [22:44] <Deleters> Pirate.
#1702 [22:44] <pyromaniac3814> because
#1703 [22:44] <Deleters> I betcha. XD
#1704 [22:44] <Zyborg_M> I think that's as far as Xbox goes.
#1705 [22:44] <pyromaniac3814> yes
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#1707 [22:44] <Deleters> Oh, It's Xbox.
#1708 [22:44] <Barnyard_Owl> !paid pyromaniac3814
#1709 [22:44] <Deleters> No pirate den
#1710 [22:44] <pyromaniac3814> thats all the xbox has right now
#1711 [22:44] <Deleters> Lol
#1712 [22:44] <Barnyard_Owl> Well, he hasn't paid for minecraft :P
#1713 [22:44] <pyromaniac3814> 1.7.3
#1714 [22:45] <Deleters> Barnyard: Xbox doesn't use those servers
#1715 [22:45] <pyromaniac3814> is the newest on xbox
#1716 [22:45] <Barnyard_Owl> According to the AuBot
#1717 [22:45] <Deleters> Barn, !paid doesn't work on Xbox versions
#1718 [22:45] <Barnyard_Owl> So you player minecraft xbox...
#1719 [22:45] <Deleters> No, I did not
#1720 [22:45] <Barnyard_Owl> Oh, ok.
#1721 [22:45] <pyromaniac3814> i play the xbox 360 edition
#1722 [22:45] <Deleters> The xbox version sucks.
#1723 [22:46] <pyromaniac3814> agreed for now it does
#1724 [22:46] <Deleters> Shoulda bought for computer, pyro
#1725 [22:46] <Deleters> I heard that it has a limited size map
#1726 [22:46] <pyromaniac3814> it does
#1727 [22:46] <Deleters> Pain
#1728 [22:46] <Zyborg_M> So...
#1729 [22:46] <pyromaniac3814> they are talking about changing that
#1730 [22:46] <Zyborg_M> The problem is my computer sucks?
#1731 [22:46] <pyromaniac3814> yes
#1732 [22:46] <Deleters> Wait, you have 1.5 gigs?
#1733 [22:47] <Zyborg_M> Apparently.
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#1735 [22:47] <pyromaniac3814> damn
#1736 [22:48] <Deleters> Well, I think minecraft's supposed to have at least two gigs. If you have a desktop, it's rather easy to pay eight dollars for two gigs of ram, and add that for a total of 3.5 gigs
#1737 [22:48] <Zyborg_M> ...
#1738 [22:48] <Zyborg_M> Probably fix a lot of problems, actually.
#1739 [22:48] <Deleters> It will
#1740 [22:48] <pyromaniac3814> i cant run minecraft on my compter too
#1741 [22:48] <Deleters> Because 1.5 gigs is quite small.
#1742 [22:48] <Barnyard_Owl> ^^
#1743 [22:48] <Deleters> Most games req. a lot more than 2 gigs
#1744 [22:48] <Barnyard_Owl> I have 6 gigs :P
#1745 [22:48] <Deleters> 8 here
#1746 [22:49] <Barnyard_Owl> >Laptop<
#1747 [22:49] <Zyborg_M> But 1.5 GB isn't bad for a computer made of three solar calculators, a vacuum cleaner, tooth floss and a family of ginnea pigs.
#1748 [22:49] <Deleters> Yeah, 8 desktop. DDR3
#1749 [22:49] <Deleters> LOL
#1750 [22:49] <pyromaniac3814> lol
#1751 [22:49] <Deleters> Zyborg, if you have that, then I'm pretty sure you'd use a paper and pen as your ram.
#1752 [22:49] <Deleters> :P
#1753 [22:49] <pyromaniac3814> hahaha
#1754 [22:49] <Zyborg_M> ...is that bad?
#1755 [22:50] <Barnyard_Owl> !paid Zyborg_M
#1756 [22:50] <Barnyard_Owl> Oh, good :P
#1757 [22:50] <Deleters> Well, you are comparing your computer parts to household appliances
#1758 [22:50] <Deleters> So I decided to add that in. :)
#1759 [22:50] <Deleters> And 1.5 is rather low for ram.
#1760 [22:50] <Deleters> Not much anyone here could do but advise that you add more ram.
#1761 [22:51] <Zyborg_M> Okay.
#1762 [22:51] <Zyborg_M> Well, good night.
#1763 [22:51] <pyromaniac3814> my net book has 2 gig
#1764 [22:51] <Zyborg_M> And thanks.
#1765 [22:51] <Deleters> Goodnight, and you are welcome
#1766 [22:51] <pyromaniac3814> night
#1767 [22:51] <Barnyard_Owl> Deleters, is there any way to figure out if someone paid for an account, besides that !paid?
#1768 [22:51] <Deleters> Not really.
#1769 [22:51] <Zyborg_M> I meant, is it bad that having a pad of paper and a pen as my RAM is bad?
#1770 [22:51] <Zyborg_M> G'night.
#1771 [22:51] <pyromaniac3814> what is that any way ?
#1772 [22:51] <Barnyard_Owl> I know there is a link
#1773 [22:51] <Barnyard_Owl> What is that link, Deleters?
#1774 [22:52] <Barnyard_Owl> Do you know it?
#1775 [22:52] <Deleters> Well, yeah, it's like having three solar calcs as your processor/power supply. :P
#1776 [22:52] <pyromaniac3814> so you guys have any ideas for me to make ?
#1777 [22:53] <Barnyard_Owl> !paid Deleters
#1778 [22:53] <Barnyard_Owl> O.O
#1779 [22:53] <pyromaniac3814> hahaha
#1780 [22:54] <Barnyard_Owl> Mr. Delete
#1781 [22:54] <Barnyard_Owl> Would you like to explain this here for us please?
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#1785 [22:57] <pyromaniac3814> i has to go now guys
#1786 [22:57] <pyromaniac3814> have fun playing the pc minecraft :p
#1787 [22:57] <pyromaniac3814> lol
#1788 [23:00] <Deleters> Barnyard_Owl: CrusaderDeleters
#1789 [23:00] <Deleters> !paid CrusaderDeleters
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#1791 [23:02] <Deleters> This proves not to trust usernames.
#1792 [23:02] <zack6849> hey guys, wat language is aubot in?
#1793 [23:02] <Deleters> Aubot
#1794 [23:02] <zack6849> !help
#1795 [23:03] <zack6849> feck.
#1796 [23:03] <zack6849> no info on him.
#1797 [23:03] <Deleters> :D
#1798 [23:03] <zack6849> Is there an op here who could provide some info on him?
#1799 [23:03] <zack6849> coding language, is he custom or based off of another bot? etc.
#1800 [23:03] <Deleters> I believe that's either Disk's or Dope's bot
#1801 [23:04] <zack6849> If its disks i know he uses java, safe to assume its in java,
#1802 [23:04] <zack6849> DiskDaemon, do you mind if i bother you for a moment?
#1803 [23:06] <zack6849> meh, hopefully he notices the ping sometime soon.
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#1806 [23:14] <zack6849> nevermind, i googled it and found out it was made by a fellow named keapler
#1807 [23:14] <zack6849> *kealper
#1808 [23:14] <zack6849> ._.
#1809 [23:15] <Deleters> zack6849: Guess who's in the channel.
#1810 [23:15] <Zimsky> lol
#1811 [23:15] <zack6849> MEh, the bot is closed source according to his site so asking for a code snippet from said bot probably would be frowned upon.
#1812 [23:16] <Deleters> Not really frowned upon, because you would be doing something we'd just dislike. You would ask before doing something, so it can't be frowned upon.
#1813 [23:16] <Deleters> You could try for a code snippet, but I cannot gaurentee you'll get.
#1814 [23:16] <zack6849> yes, but if a bot is closed-spurce usually its because the dev doesnt want his code stolen so asking for code from said bot would be pointless
#1815 [23:17] <Zimsky> stating the obvious
#1816 [23:17] <Deleters> Zack: It's usually for most people. Code Snippets won't show the whole thing, and snippets are esay to producefrom certain people in the first plac.e
#1817 [23:17] <zack6849> Well, then i suppose it couldn't hurt to ask
#1818 [23:17] <Deleters> If Kealper is ever awake, just get his attention and ask. He doesn't bite.
#1819 [23:18] <zack6849> hey Kealper, do you think i could take a look at the code you use for checking if a server is up?
#1820 [23:19] <Deleters> Zack: Sleepytime is necessary in everyone. He could be asleep. Just stay connected and periodically check if he's active.
#1821 [23:20] <zack6849> Alrighty then, im not sure where he is so it could be day where he is :P
#1822 [23:20] <Zimsky> zack6849: open a tcp socket to address and port, send \xff and parse the response
#1823 [23:20] <Deleters> Could be day, could be night.
#1824 [23:21] <Deleters> Zack: If there is a nullsocketexception, then output that the server is off
#1825 [23:21] <zack6849> if i had the slightest clue what an xff is ._.
#1826 [23:22] <Deleters> Google.
#1827 [23:22] <Deleters> That's what.
#1828 [23:22] <zack6849> would that be a raw command of somesort i send to said server?
#1829 [23:22] <Zimsky> lol
#1830 [23:22] <zack6849> alruight
#1831 [23:22] <zack6849> thank
#1832 [23:22] <zack6849> *thanks
#1833 [23:22] <Deleters> No problem
#1834 [23:22] <Deleters> #Java for java help, btw
#1835 [23:23] <zack6849> yeah, i tend to ask questions related to bots in #kingrunes though :P
#1836 [23:23] <Deleters> XD
#1837 [23:23] <Zimsky> zack6849: https://gist.github.com/1209061
#1838 [23:23] <zack6849> kings wasnt in there last time i checked, but you never know, thanks for the info ^_^
#1839 [23:23] <Zimsky> 'twas \xfe that you want to send
#1840 [23:24] <zack6849> oh okay :D
#1841 [23:24] <zack6849> thanks alot Zimsky
#1842 [23:24] <zack6849> Imma go watch a movie with family, be back in a while
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#1844 [23:27] <Deleters> \xff is basically hexidata
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