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#6 [00:14] <Marc_IRL> Does anyone know where world files are saved to on a Mac?
#7 [00:14] <Nivad> arrr...
#8 [00:14] <Nivad> our skins are still down :<
#9 [00:14] <Nivad> I think I resolved it Bear
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#11 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> marc_irl - yeah. ~/library/application support/minecraft
#12 [00:20] <Marc_IRL> Thanks!
#13 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> for a quick way of navigating to it, press command+shift+g to bring up thw go to folder pronpt
#14 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> then enter that line.
#15 [00:20] <Marc_IRL> I'd make that a help article if anyone asked more than once every few months
#16 [00:20] <Marc_IRL> As it is, the question was from a friend, not a custom,er
#17 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> it's a fairly common question.
#18 [00:21] <Marc_IRL> we get surprisingly few questions that aren't about accounts or purchases
#19 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> especially since mountain lion came out and ~/library is now hidden by default
#20 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> well, that's good to hear i suppose.
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#22 [00:25] <bearlindo> when will we get 1.4
#23 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> thursday.
#24 [00:26] <bearlindo> yeah and that is today
#25 [00:26] <bearlindo> and it hasent appear in my launcher yet
#26 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> so then, sometime today
#27 [00:27] <Marc_IRL> Have some patience
#28 [00:27] <Marc_IRL> It's 6:30am in sweden
#29 [00:27] <Marc_IRL> It doesn't queue up or anything, it's manually released
#30 [00:27] <bearlindo> i hope them in a future uppdate ads color to glas then my cathedral will look nice
#31 [00:27] <Marc_IRL> probably no colored glass anytime soon
#32 [00:28] <ShaRose> there's mods for it
#33 [00:29] <Marc_IRL> There's mods for every block
#34 [00:29] <Marc_IRL> I think one of Dinnerbone's primary reasons for not doing it is that everyone would complain that light doesn't get colored going through it
#35 [00:29] <Marc_IRL> They would never, ever let it go. And the lighting engine doesn't support that kind of thing right now.
#36 [00:30] <ShaRose> good thing the whole rendering pipeline is getting rewritten :D
#37 [00:30] <ShaRose> you know, along with literally everything else
#38 [00:30] <Marc_IRL> Yeah... I don't expect lighting engine updates anytime soon
#39 [00:31] <ItsPrimetime> I bet you think you know what you're talking about, because you like, work there.
#40 [00:31] <ShaRose> nah, I know for a fact the rendering system is getting rewritten
#41 [00:31] <ShaRose> that said
#42 [00:31] <ShaRose> I agree with the anytime soon thing
#43 [00:31] <ShaRose> :V
#44 [00:31] <ItsPrimetime> There is so much potential in this next update
#45 [00:31] <ItsPrimetime> I'm really hoping it doesn't get wasted.
#46 [00:32] <ItsPrimetime> This could go so right, or so wrong.
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#48 [00:34] <Nivad> question
#49 [00:34] <Nivad> Is it possible to make my single-player/LAN map into a multi-player map?
#50 [00:34] <ItsPrimetime> Yes
#51 [00:34] <Nivad> how?
#52 [00:34] <ItsPrimetime> Take the map folder, and put it into the server folder
#53 [00:34] <Nivad> where would it be located?
#54 [00:34] <ItsPrimetime> Make sure the name matches up in the server.properties
#55 [00:34] <ItsPrimetime> The map, or the server folder?
#56 [00:34] <Nivad> map
#57 [00:35] <ItsPrimetime> appdata/.minecraft/saves
#58 [00:35] <ItsPrimetime> And the map would be a folder called [worldname]
#59 [00:36] <Nivad> I see no server folder though.
#60 [00:36] <ItsPrimetime> You have to make a server
#61 [00:36] <Nivad> I have the program for that, yeah.
#62 [00:36] <ItsPrimetime> Well it will have created a bunch of files in the folder
#63 [00:37] <ItsPrimetime> Like this: http://i.imgur.com/ofkLo.png
#64 [00:39] <Nivad> it told me bad login.
#65 [00:39] <Nivad> I had that once or twice before, but then it let me in another time
#66 [00:41] <Nivad> okay... got it :D
#67 [00:41] <ItsPrimetime> Yay!
#68 [00:42] <Nivad> woooo
#69 [00:42] <Nivad> Its not a hugely impressive world.
#70 [00:42] <Nivad> But we built it without creative mode, so we're proud of it =p
#71 [00:43] <ItsPrimetime> lol
#72 [00:43] <Nivad> It'll grow though.
#73 [00:43] <Nivad> I've *read* that theres NPC villages
#74 [00:43] <Nivad> but i've never found one.
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#76 [00:44] <bearlindo> Nivad the are rare but exists
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#78 [00:44] <Nivad|Sleepins> G'night!! :>
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#82 [01:04] <MrGuy123> Anyone there? :O
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#103 [02:11] <minerdude146> ok, so, I tried to play the demo version of minecraft, and every time it gives me an error saying I have bad video card drivers. do you know how update them?
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#136 [03:58] <bearlindo> how the heck do i register so i can write in normal minecraft chan
#137 [04:00] <Iaccidentally> ./ns help register
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#139 [04:03] <bearlindo> what exactly should i write to get my nick registred
#140 [04:04] <Necrodoom> ./msg nickserv help
#141 [04:06] <DiskDaemon> ??> bearlindo irc
#142 [04:06] <VoxelHead> bearlindo: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#143 [04:06] <VoxelHead> bearlindo: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
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#145 [04:06] <mr_pants> hey i bought minecraft yesterday but i cant login... pls help me!
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#147 [04:07] <DiskDaemon> mr_pants: What happens when you try to log in to minecraft.net or mojang.com
#148 [04:07] <mr_pants> cannot login...
#149 [04:07] <DiskDaemon> To the web site?
#150 [04:07] <mr_pants> yes
#151 [04:07] <mr_pants> "ur not premium"
#152 [04:07] <DiskDaemon> Reset your password. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#153 [04:08] <bearlindo> now i have suceeded registry what do i write the next time i want to login
#154 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> mr_pants: Are you trying to log in to the game?
#155 [04:08] <mr_pants> but i got no email or something like this
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#157 [04:09] <mr_pants> yes doesnt work
#158 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> mr_pants: Don't do that!
#159 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> mr_pants: We need to check if you can log in to your account first with your password, via the web site.
#160 [04:09] <mr_pants> ok
#161 [04:11] <DiskDaemon> mr_pants: Feel free to let us know your results
#162 [04:13] <mr_pants> i can login to mojang
#163 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> Good, with your email/password?
#164 [04:13] <mr_pants> but not to minecraft.net as a premium user
#165 [04:13] <mr_pants> "first buy minecraft"
#166 [04:14] <mr_pants> but i did this... =(
#167 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> mr_pants: What is your minecraft username?
#168 [04:14] <mr_pants> lowielutscher
#169 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> !paid lowielutscher
#170 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> mr_pants: Where did you attempt to buy Minecraft from?
#171 [04:14] <mr_pants> minecraft.net
#172 [04:14] <mr_pants> i got an order number
#173 [04:14] <mr_pants> ...
#174 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> The attempt was made but the transaction clearly did not succeed. Call your bank to find out why
#175 [04:15] <mr_pants> ... okay
#176 [04:15] <mr_pants> damn.
#177 [04:16] <mr_pants> thx for ur help
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#181 [04:18] <mr_pants> " Unfortunately we are unable to process this transaction. You may cancel your payment or choose another payment method."
#182 [04:18] <mr_pants> why that...
#183 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> Contact your bank to find out why
#184 [04:18] <Necrodoom> atleast you found your issue
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#187 [04:27] <mr_pants> now it should work
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#189 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> Why now?
#190 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> !paid lowielutscher
#191 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> mr_pants: Nice one
#192 [04:32] <Necrodoom> gratz
#193 [04:36] <Lutzee> Have fun :>
#194 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> Hrm - I'll have to remember that phrase, or variations of it: "The attempt was made but the transaction clearly did not succeed. Call your bank to find out why"
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#209 [06:14] <Turtle961> When I try to login, it says "Try again (Not downloaded)" And I have deleted the %appdata% files and everything... still says I haven't downloaded anything. Anyone help?
#210 [06:15] <DiskDaemon> Turtle961: What is your minecraft username?
#211 [06:15] <Turtle961> Is it needed?
#212 [06:15] <DiskDaemon> It might help
#213 [06:15] <Turtle961> However, it is Turtle961.
#214 [06:15] <DiskDaemon> !paid Turtle961
#215 [06:16] <Turtle961> Yes I have.
#216 [06:16] <Turtle961> It's just not working, says I haven't downloaded.
#217 [06:16] <DiskDaemon> Okay, so why doesn't it want to download. Can you log in to the minecraft.net web site?
#218 [06:17] <Turtle961> I can log into the website, and I click download... I go to login on the client... "Try again (Not downloaded)" and it doesn't give me the option to Play Offline
#219 [06:17] <DiskDaemon> Does it give an error after you log in to the minecraft launcher?
#220 [06:18] <Turtle961> Once i log in, it just says where you login that I havent downloaded... I just tried Force Updating and it still didn't work.
#221 [06:18] <Turtle961> Is there any hidden files I can delete?
#222 [06:19] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/reinst
#223 [06:19] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#224 [06:19] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#226 [06:19] <Turtle961> I dont have a .minecraft file.
#227 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> What does it say above "not downloaded"?
#228 [06:20] <Turtle961> "Try Again"
#229 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> Can't connect to minecraft.net?
#230 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> Login Failed?
#231 [06:20] <Turtle961> Login Failed
#232 [06:20] <Turtle961> I have paid.
#233 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> Login failed means your username/password is being entered wrong. Double check it
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#235 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> If you're still sure it's right, try resetting it
#236 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> http://minecraft.net/resetpassword
#237 [06:21] <Turtle961> Hmm, thats odd
#238 [06:21] <Turtle961> My website password
#239 [06:21] <Turtle961> is different to my client password
#240 [06:21] <Turtle961> I logged in successfully.
#241 [06:21] <Turtle961> Downloading it now
#242 [06:21] * GreyVulpine nods
#242 [06:21] <Turtle961> Thankyou admins !
#243 [06:21] <Turtle961> <3
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#245 [06:21] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
#246 [06:21] <Turtle961> :3
#247 [06:21] <Turtle961> Do you guys work for Mojang?
#248 [06:21] <DiskDaemon> nope, we're unpaid :(
#249 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> Alas, we do not.
#250 [06:22] <DiskDaemon> But, we're here because we love the game, and want to help others to enjoy it too
#251 [06:22] <Turtle961> Atleast you have a decent work ethic unlike me ;)
#252 [06:22] <Turtle961> I would always help people out, especially in-game, but this is my second time coming into a minecraft IRC !
#253 [06:23] <techno156> I have rarely seen you two work together, DiskDaemon and GreyVulpine
#254 [06:23] <techno156> Turtle961, You're welcome to join and help other people anytime
#255 [06:23] <Turtle961> Oki ~~
#256 [06:23] <DiskDaemon> techno156: That's typically because we tag-team :)
#257 [06:24] <Turtle961> Lost all my achievements D: and worlds D: Time to get started.
#258 [06:24] <techno156> Ok
#259 [06:26] <Turtle961> My sound isnt working, well, the music anyway
#260 [06:27] <techno156> Check your settings, just in case :)
#261 [06:27] <Turtle961> I have, it's 100% D:
#262 [06:27] <Turtle961> and in Volume mixer it's at 50
#263 [06:28] <Turtle961> Dw its working
#264 [06:28] <techno156> ok
#265 [06:28] <techno156> :)
#266 [06:28] <Turtle961> Aiight im not panicing anymore, thank you all for the help <3 Cyas !
#267 [06:28] <techno156> np cya :)
#268 [06:28] <techno156> Join soon!
#269 [06:28] <techno156> Make that re-join
#270 [06:29] * techno156 has yet to play 1.4.2
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#271 [06:33] <techno156> Our topic needs an upgrade soon...
#272 [06:41] <Morrolan> If they release on time, that is. ;D
#273 [06:42] <techno156> true
#274 [06:43] <techno156> I thought they released already...
#275 [06:43] <DiskDaemon> It's already released, isn't it?
#276 [06:43] <Necrodoom> yes
#277 [06:43] <Morrolan> Huh, wasn't it supposed to be released on halloween?
#278 [06:43] <DiskDaemon> See http://mojang.com/2012/10/minecraft-pretty-scary-update/
#279 [06:44] <techno156> nearly there, close enough for me! :)
#280 [06:44] <Morrolan> Oh damn.
#281 [06:44] <Necrodoom> its ALREADY out
#282 [06:44] <DiskDaemon> Indeed
#283 [06:44] <Morrolan> Thank god it's weekend, so I'll have some time to update the server.
#284 [06:45] <Morrolan> it's weekend when the corresponding CB build will be out*
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#286 [06:47] <techno156> Servers are now 1.4.2, aren't they?
#287 [06:48] <Morrolan> Vanilla ones, yea.
#288 [06:48] <Morrolan> Doubtful that there's already a stable CB build for 1.4.2, though.
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#324 [08:32] <Ahille> hi all
#325 [08:32] <Ahille> i have a little problem
#326 [08:33] <Ahille> i have an account and i don t remember my email ...can some1 help? my account name is:Ahille
#327 [08:34] <Morrolan> You'll have to contact Mojang for that, there's a form on their help page.
#328 [08:35] <Ahille> ok can u give me a link to help page from mojang??i searchd and couldn t find it
#329 [08:35] <Ahille> searched*
#330 [08:36] <Morrolan> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#331 [08:36] <Morrolan> Might want to attack a copy of your credit card statement / PayPal transaction ID / whatever else you used to buy the game.
#332 [08:37] <Morrolan> Uh, attach
#333 [08:39] <Ahille> i ve didn t buy it
#334 [08:39] <Ahille> xD
#335 [08:39] <Ahille> thats why i want this acc
#336 [08:39] <Ahille> to buy to premium
#337 [08:39] <Ahille> to upgrade*
#338 [08:40] <Morrolan> Oh, I see.
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#340 [08:41] <BigStoo> Hi
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#348 [08:50] <BigStoo> What server are you guys on
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#350 [08:51] <Boreeas> BigStoo: Everyone on a different one, I guess
#351 [08:51] <Boreeas> ??> BigStoo smp/servers
#352 [08:51] <VoxelHead> BigStoo: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#353 [08:51] <VoxelHead> BigStoo: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#354 [08:52] <BigStoo> Cool i just got the update and cant find any that are online
#355 [08:53] <Morrolan> Most servers use modified server software, which has to update, first.
#356 [08:53] <BigStoo> Do you know any that are online?
#357 [08:54] * Morrolan shakes head
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#360 [08:57] <BigStoo> Sorry, power failure
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#369 [09:22] <LB_694> What IRC or where would I get information on bukkit plugins or server property support that disable /help from user permissions?
#370 [09:23] <Morrolan> #bukkit might be worth a shot.
#371 [09:23] <Selbram> Probably #bukkit or #bukkitdev
#372 [09:23] <Morrolan> Alternatatively, Google.
#373 [09:24] <Morrolan> Alternatively*
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#376 [09:29] <hulish> hi
#377 [09:30] <Andrio> Hello
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#379 [09:30] <hulish> is there a bug currently where a chunk is indestructable?
#380 [09:30] <Quinck> Hey guys, I am trying to run a SMP server on 1.4 and I get a crash report each time I run it.
#381 [09:30] <Morrolan> If you're talking about multiplayer, and are near spawn, then it's a feature, hulish.
#382 [09:30] <Morrolan> Quinck: Throw the crash report on pastebin.com or similar please.
#383 [09:30] <hulish> even if its my own server?
#384 [09:31] <Morrolan> Only ops can modify spawn area, so you'll have to op yourself.
#385 [09:31] <Morrolan> "op <playername>" in the console will do that.
#386 [09:31] <hulish> oh i see
#387 [09:31] <hulish> thanks
#388 [09:31] <Morrolan> Sure thing.
#389 [09:31] <Quinck> http://pastebin.com/JB1n2pKc
#390 [09:31] <Quinck> http://pastebin.com/JB1n2pKc
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#392 [09:31] <Morrolan> hulish: Oh, don't include the brackets, by the way. ;)
#393 [09:32] <hulish> I know :) I just didnt know spawn area was protected like that without changing any server settings
#394 [09:32] <Morrolan> Quinck: Reusing an existing world, or have you generated a new one? Did you try to delete the server.properties file?
#395 [09:33] <Morrolan> Quinck: Note that I'm just guessing, haven't seen that error before, and 1.4 is still too new to know much about its bugs. :)
#396 [09:33] <Quinck> Yeah I cleared everything completely, and ran only the new .jar for fresh files
#397 [09:33] <Morrolan> hulish: Ah, the idea is to prevent people from digging a giant hole at spawn, in which people will fall afterwards. :)
#398 [09:34] <hulish> yea but this is a default setting right?
#399 [09:34] <Morrolan> Yep.
#400 [09:34] <Morrolan> In the vanilla (unmodified) server you can't even disable it for everyone.
#401 [09:35] <hulish> okay
#402 [09:35] <Morrolan> (Unless you'd make everyone op, of course, but that'd be rather dangerous)
#403 [09:35] <Quinck> I will try to run it without altering the server notepad file, because I got it to work one time, but once I altered that it kept crashing. Ill keep you posted
#404 [09:35] <hulish> I thought it was a bug because I never had that problem before :P
#405 [09:35] <Morrolan> Quinck: Please do. :)
#406 [09:35] <Morrolan> Will allow us to help others who might have the same issue.
#407 [09:36] <hulish> and its normal for slimes to spawn on the surface now right?
#408 [09:37] <Morrolan> Uh, I haven't kept up with recent development, but I doubt it.
#409 [09:37] <hulish> oh
#410 [09:37] <Morrolan> Might want to check the wiki. :)
#411 [09:37] <hulish> my swamp biome has slimes everywhere
#412 [09:38] <Morrolan> hulish: Ah, the wiki says that, at night, slimes now spawn in swamp biomes.
#413 [09:38] <Morrolan> So that's normal, then. :)
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#415 [09:38] <hulish> :P
#416 [09:39] <hulish> how do you report bugs btw?
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#418 [09:40] <Morrolan> I think these days it's best to add them to the wiki's buglist, if they're not there yet.
#419 [09:41] <Morrolan> At least Jeb used to check that one every now and then.
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#422 [09:42] <Morrolan> ??< index
#423 [09:42] <Morrolan> ??< buglist
#424 [09:42] <Morrolan> ??< bugreport
#425 [09:42] <hulish> i see
#426 [09:43] <Quinck> Found it I believe
#427 [09:43] <Morrolan> Yea, seems the Wiki's list is the way to go.
#428 [09:43] <Quinck> I tried a few different things, ran it with more or less ram, and added other players, etc. But once I changed the server properties, it gave me the crash
#429 [09:43] <Morrolan> ??+ bug/list A list of known bugs can be found on the Minecraft wiki: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/latest
#430 [09:43] <Morrolan> Quinck: What did you change?
#431 [09:43] <Quinck> Things I changed were: Players to 50, difficulty: 10
#432 [09:44] <Morrolan> Quinck: Unless that changed recently, difficulty should be between 0 (peaceful) and 3 (hard)
#433 [09:44] <Morrolan> Obviously it shouldn't crash if one enters invalid information, though.
#434 [09:44] <Quinck> Yeah I ran 10 on my previous servers, I'll try some more testing.
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#437 [09:46] <Quinck> It had something to do with the difficulty change
#438 [09:46] <Quinck> set back to 1 and no crashes
#439 [09:46] <Morrolan> hulish: Oh, just stumbled across another change in 1.4.2: "Spawn protection now is disabled if there's nothing in ops.txt"
#440 [09:47] <hulish> ok
#441 [09:49] <Quinck> Thanks for the help Morrolan! Take care now
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#445 [09:50] <bigbuga11> Hey could anyone help me with a minecraft error problem?
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#447 [09:51] <bigbuga11> I really need help with this.
#448 [09:51] <Ndog57685> My textures are messed up how do i fix them
#449 [09:52] <bigbuga11> Everytime i download minecraft, the game pops up but the shortcut does not and i have to download it everytime.
#450 [09:52] <bigbuga11> but when i do download I login and the game turns black and just closes.
#451 [09:52] <Ndog57685> hello?
#452 [09:53] <bigbuga11> also when i try the game on a browser it stays on the java logo and does not load
#453 [09:54] <BigStoo> bigbugs, when you install the game to your pc, search for it in the start menu then add a shortcut to desktop
#454 [09:54] <BigStoo> I hade the same problem
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#456 [09:54] <bigbuga11> I do that but i cant see it
#457 [09:54] <bigbuga11> and when i try to login the game turns black and closes
#458 [09:54] <Ndog57685> my textures are messed how do i fix them
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#460 [09:55] <bigbuga11> I really dont know what to do
#461 [09:55] <bigbuga11> about it
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#468 [10:01] <bugabig11> Can somone help me with a loading error?
#469 [10:02] <Morrolan> Does your Windows username contain exclamation marks or similar?
#470 [10:02] <bugabig11> PLease? >.>
#471 [10:02] <Morrolan> Also, be patient, this is IRC, not a support hotline.
#472 [10:02] <bugabig11> No it doesen't
#473 [10:03] <Morrolan> Do you know how to use the command prompt?
#474 [10:03] <bugabig11> I'm not a computer guy, so no.
#475 [10:04] <Morrolan> Okay. First, grab the .jar launcher from www.minecraft.net/download
#476 [10:04] <Morrolan> Save it somewhere on your desktop, or in a folder.
#477 [10:04] <Nivad|Sleepins> A question.
#478 [10:04] * Nivad|Sleepins is now known as Nivad
#479 [10:04] <Nivad> Will 1.3.2 mods work with 1.4?
#480 [10:05] <Morrolan> No, Nivad.
#481 [10:05] <Nivad> :'<
#482 [10:05] <Nivad> whats supposed to be new in 1.4?
#483 [10:05] <bugabig11> Done.
#484 [10:05] <Morrolan> Nivad: There's a nice changelog on the wiki. .P
#485 [10:05] <Morrolan> bugabig11: Then create a new textfile in the same folder the .jar launcher is in. Put "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" (no quotes) on the first line, and "pause" on the second line.
#486 [10:06] <Nivad> So I just need to down-grade back to 1.3.2 until the mods are updated.
#487 [10:06] <Morrolan> bugabig11: Then select "Save as", and choose "all files" from the dropdown menu, call the file "run.bat" and save it.
#488 [10:06] <Morrolan> Nivad: If you want to play with mods - yep.
#489 [10:06] <Nivad> Yes :o My server uses a number of them.
#490 [10:07] <bugabig11> Morrolan I know almost nothing about computers
#491 [10:07] <bugabig11> SO I dont really know what that stuff is..
#492 [10:08] <Morrolan> bugabig11: If you'd be a bit more specific just what you don't know...
#493 [10:08] <Morrolan> I'm sure you know what a textfile is, right?
#494 [10:08] <bugabig11> I downloaded minecraft.Jar and the files that are in there is: LZMA META-INF net and mojang-cert.
#495 [10:09] <Morrolan> Don't open the .jar.
#496 [10:09] <Morrolan> Create a new text folder where you placed the .jar launcher.
#497 [10:10] <bugabig11> I dont know what that is or were...
#498 [10:11] <bugabig11> Also whenever i try to run minecraft and login, the game turns black and closes...
#499 [10:11] <Morrolan> You said that, and we're trying to figure out why.
#500 [10:11] <Morrolan> Now, back to business.
#501 [10:11] <Morrolan> Where did you save the .jar launcher you downloaded from www.minecraft.net/download?
#502 [10:12] <bugabig11> ....
#503 [10:12] <bugabig11> I dont really know :P
#504 [10:12] <Morrolan> You clicked on the link on www.minecraft.net/download to save the file, right?
#505 [10:13] <Morrolan> After that you hopefully selected "save", and not "run"
#506 [10:13] <bugabig11> Yes
#507 [10:13] <Morrolan> Then a popup will show up, where you can choose where to save it.
#508 [10:13] <bugabig11> Oh... I clicked run did I?
#509 [10:13] <Morrolan> I wouldn't know. You shouldn't, though.
#510 [10:14] <bugabig11> Okay im starting to understand...
#511 [10:14] <Morrolan> Select "save", "save as", or whatever it's called, then save it on your desktop, or somewhere else where you can find it afterwards.
#512 [10:15] <bugabig11> I saved it
#513 [10:16] <Morrolan> Okay. Now open the editor, or notepad.
#514 [10:16] <bugabig11> notepad..
#515 [10:16] <BigStoo> Nivad: How do I downgrade?
#516 [10:17] <Morrolan> BigStoo: There's a tool, McNostalgia, but that one hasn't updated yet, most likely. You'll have to give it a day or two.
#517 [10:17] <Morrolan> BigStoo: The easiest way would be to apply a backup, if you (or a friend) still has the old files, though.
#518 [10:17] <Morrolan> bugabig11: Do you mean "I opened it" or "I don't know what notepad is"?
#519 [10:17] <bugabig11> I opened it.
#520 [10:18] <BigStoo> Ah, not sure if I still have the old files. Just done the update when my launcher opened
#521 [10:18] <Morrolan> Okay. Now put "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" (no quotes) on the first line, and "pause" on the second line.
#522 [10:18] <bugabig11> Done.
#523 [10:20] <Morrolan> bugabig11: Now save it. In the dialog where it asks you to enter the name, first navigate to the same folder you saved the launcher in. (e.g. your desktop).
#524 [10:20] <Morrolan> Then, enter "run.bat" (including the quotes) as the filename, and save it.
#525 [10:21] <bugabig11> Done
#526 [10:22] <Nivad> well this is an interesting dilemma.
#527 [10:22] <Morrolan> bugabig11: Now you should be able to doubleclick that file you just created. A console will then pop up, and Minecraft will start. Then log in as usual. Once it goes black, you should get an error in the console.
#528 [10:23] <Nivad> I hope this install only goes as far as 1.3.2 with it's force update rather than 1.4 like I expect it will
#529 [10:23] <Morrolan> The vanilla launcher's "force update" always updates to the latest stable version, which would be 1.4
#530 [10:23] <Nivad> ._.;
#531 [10:24] <Nivad> So how do I get 1.3.2 back then?
#532 [10:24] <Morrolan> Oh, last I checked the 1.3.2 binaries could still be downloaded from Mojang, let me grab the link.
#533 [10:24] <Morrolan> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar
#534 [10:24] <Morrolan> Still up.$
#535 [10:24] <Morrolan> Throw that one into .minecraft/bin
#536 [10:24] <bugabig11> Im confused
#537 [10:25] <Morrolan> bugabig11: Once you double-clicked the .bat file, did a console window pop up?
#538 [10:25] <bugabig11> yes
#539 [10:26] <Nivad> "A java exception occured"
#540 [10:27] <Nivad> ... Java isn't even running...
#541 [10:27] <Morrolan> bugabig11: Okay, did Minecraft show up, too?
#542 [10:27] <bugabig11> The black box says itrs not reconized java
#543 [10:27] <Morrolan> bugabig11: Ah.
#544 [10:27] <bugabig11> as a internal or external command
#545 [10:28] <Morrolan> bugabig11: I'll be leaving work now, so will be gone for a bit over an hour. Just idle in here a bit, and someone else will take care of you.
#546 [10:28] <bugabig11> operable progam or batch file
#547 [10:28] <BigStoo> Yay.. I got 1.3.2 back :)
#548 [10:29] <Morrolan> Before I'm leaving: You will have to either a) replace 'java' in that .bat file with the full path to your Java installation, or, if you are on a 64 bit OS, install 64 bit Java, which should fix that too.
#549 [10:29] <Nivad> and... now it forcefully updates...
#550 [10:29] <Nivad> Even though that wasn't checked.
#551 [10:30] <bugabig11> confused..
#552 [10:30] <Nivad> So again.
#553 [10:30] <Nivad> "A java exception occured" whats wrong here?
#554 [10:30] <BigStoo> I just copied and replace the .jar file into the Minecraft folder and it worked
#555 [10:31] <frdmn> http://assets.minecraft.net/sopa.jpg
#556 [10:31] <frdmn> :D
#557 [10:31] <bugabig11> im confused, the file is listed as "run" on my start menu
#558 [10:32] <Nivad> For fucks sake.
#559 [10:32] * AuBot kicked Nivad from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ivad :Please keep it civil.)
#560 [10:32] <bugabig11> also i have 32-bit javaa
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#562 [10:33] <Nivad> -.-
#563 [10:33] <bugabig11> lol
#564 [10:33] <Nivad> lets see if getting 1.3 from my other PC will work even though it's minecraft.exe had errors.
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#566 [10:38] <BigStoo> Nivad I found a video on Youtube which showed how to upgrade to 1.3 when it came out and just copied the same method but with the 1.4.1 jar file
#567 [10:39] <Nivad> I dont want 1.4
#568 [10:40] <BigStoo> Sorry, I meant 1.3.2
#569 [10:40] <Nivad> Yeah, and im having trouble getting that.
#570 [10:40] <BigStoo> Hmm
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#572 [10:41] <Quinck> Is anyone else having a lot of server lag with 1.4?
#573 [10:42] <AliciaInfinite> Hey- I updated my Minecraft and now I can't direct connect to any of the 'hunger games' servers... It keeps saying 'server outdated' and I know it's because I've updated MC. What can I do? I really want to play the HG Servers!
#574 [10:43] <Andrio> Wait for them to update.
#575 [10:43] <Quinck> It is the Server that hasnt updated
#576 [10:43] <Quinck> I am getting an incredible amount of server lag with 1.4
#577 [10:43] <Nivad> whew.
#578 [10:43] <Nivad> Fixed it \o/
#579 [10:44] <BigStoo> Lol
#580 [10:44] <Nivad> Had to use the files from my other PC
#581 [10:44] <AliciaInfinite> Does it usually take them long to update the servers?
#582 [10:44] <BigStoo> Anyone know any quick ways of building walls.. -.-
#583 [10:44] <AliciaInfinite> Thanks for answering btw!
#584 [10:44] <Nivad> Yes.
#585 [10:44] <Nivad> Use dirt, netherrack, or that sort
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#587 [10:44] <Nivad> A question btw, how do I apply the obsidian tools update for my server itself?
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#590 [10:45] <Andrio> AliciaInfinite, it'll probably take a while.
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#592 [10:47] <Andrio> There are ways to go back to the older version of Minecraft though - see the channel 11/topic.
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#594 [10:49] <AliciaInfinite> Oh nooo. Is there not a way I can un-update my MC?
#595 [10:49] <Andrio> [01:47:10] <4Andrio>25 There are ways to go back to the older version of Minecraft
#596 [10:50] <Calinou> nice colored text you have there
#597 [10:50] <Andrio> thanks.
#598 [10:50] <Andrio> AliciaInfinite, google MCNostalgia
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#601 [10:51] <K3V1N8700> HAY CAN I HAVE SOM HELP FOR A PLUGIN?
#602 [10:51] <K3V1N8700> sorry caps
#603 [10:51] * Andrio sees his own messages in green. He finds it easier to distinguish between his own and others' messages that way. It also got copy/pasted that way.
#603 [10:52] <AliciaInfinite> Thanks Andrio... Does this just mean I'm re-downloading an older version?
#604 [10:52] <Andrio> no; it's a patch.
#605 [10:52] <Andrio> I haven't tried it myself.
#606 [10:52] * Calinou wonders why is 1.4 named 1.4.2...
#606 [10:52] <Andrio> so I'm not exactly sure.
#607 [10:53] <Calinou> inb4 first release of 1.5 will be named 1.5.9
#608 [10:53] <Andrio> K3V1N8700, ask that in #bukkit if it's a Bukkit plugin.
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#611 [10:54] <AliciaInfinite> Hmm. I'm not sure if I should do it or not. Looks like I'll be having some MC withdrawal problems lol
#612 [10:55] <Andrio> You can re-update afterward, you know.
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#615 [10:57] <Calinou> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar
#616 [10:57] <Calinou> here, if MCN doesn't work
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#618 [10:57] <Calinou> look at the URL if you're wondering about legality
#619 [10:59] <Quinck> Has anyone else tried running a 1.4 server?
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#622 [11:01] <Calinou> not now
#623 [11:03] <AliciaInfinite> I may just wait it out. How long has it taken in the past for servers to be updated, do you think?
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#625 [11:05] <Calinou> 3 days-2 weeks
#626 [11:05] <Quinck> Anyone able to decipher this error?
#627 [11:05] <Quinck> http://pastebin.com/j2Msyt1L
#628 [11:05] <AliciaInfinite> Oh dear.
#629 [11:05] <Quinck> Line 286 and down
#630 [11:05] <Calinou> it's not like it's the end of the world. patience is a virtue.
#631 [11:05] <AliciaInfinite> Ok. I'll stick to single player for the time being then! Thanks for all theh help!
#632 [11:06] <Calinou> Quinck: lots of TNT exploding can cause that "can't keep up" message, so it might cause disconnects
#633 [11:06] <Nivad> I need help if you could Calinou
#634 [11:06] <Calinou> remember: 1.4.2 was released recently, it might be a bit buggy :)
#635 [11:06] <Calinou> Nivad: don't ask to ask, ask now :) and remember, we're all volounteers here
#636 [11:06] <Quinck> Its not that
#637 [11:07] <Nivad> I managed to patch with all the mods I [presently] desire.
#638 [11:07] <Quinck> I am in survival with viewers from my stream,
#639 [11:07] <Nivad> Now, to apply this to make it "server wide" for my server
#640 [11:07] <Nivad> Do I copy paste the .jar into the server file somewhere?
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#653 [11:23] <Calinou> Nivad: client mods don't work on a server
#654 [11:23] <Calinou> you have to 1) use a specific server mod, 2) tell all the clients to use a client mod
#655 [11:24] <Nivad> D:
#656 [11:24] <Nivad> Lordy.
#657 [11:24] <Nivad> xD
#658 [11:24] <Nivad> thanks
#659 [11:27] <Nivad> humm..
#660 [11:27] <Nivad> I may have to make my server a web-site and just create a "Mod Pack" people will need.
#661 [11:28] <Calinou> people will have to go to that website and download the mod pack
#662 [11:28] <Calinou> and make sure you have the right to redistribute these mods
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#664 [11:28] <Calinou> else you'll have to link to the official source for each of them
#665 [11:28] <Quinck> Is the login server down for you guys?
#666 [11:28] <Calinou> !login
#667 [11:29] <Quinck> Teh eff.
#668 [11:29] <Quinck> A lot going on with it today. I shall wait.
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#683 [11:43] <dutchie1> i cant log in?
#684 [11:43] <k3v1n8700> same here
#685 [11:44] <Gmeister> Hi guys I got this problem with minecraft, it works and sometimes have long game sessions but other times its really short and crashes, no logs or nowt. I get these amd driver error comes up?
#686 [11:44] <Gmeister> I updated my amd driver and java from java 6 to java 7 update 9
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#689 [11:45] <bearlindo> hope them fix minecraft.net soon
#690 [11:46] <Gmeister> anyone help?
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#705 [12:10] <Nivekbob> Minecraft froze at the done loading screen and has been stuck there for about 5 mins
#706 [12:10] <Nivekbob> how do i fix this
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#708 [12:11] <Nivad> aw fudge, i know how to fix that one too :<
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#710 [12:15] <Nivad> Does anyone here run a server? I have some questions :>
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#713 [12:16] <Smanly> Nivad: shoot
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#715 [12:18] <legoap> since 1.4.2 i cant play minecraft, i tryed to swich back to 1.3 but that doesen't help. The forums were not helpful.
#716 [12:19] <legoap> it is some kind of error, i tryed reinstalling it and updated java, nothing, i have the error report if you need it
#717 [12:25] <Smanly> Pastebin.com the error
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#719 [12:28] <legoap> ok, give me 1 min
#720 [12:29] <legoap> here is it http://pastebin.com/gfn7k8s9
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#726 [12:31] <legoap> http://pastebin.com/gfn7k8s9
#727 [12:31] <dermarionator> hi
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#729 [12:33] <Smanly> legoap: Idk what the cause of that error is.
#730 [12:33] <Smanly> You will have to wait for someone more knowledgeable.
#731 [12:33] <legoap> ok thanks anyway
#732 [12:33] <Smanly> ?? dont/pm legoap
#733 [12:34] <Smanly> ?? dont/pm
#734 [12:34] <VoxelHead> dont/pm: We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#735 [12:34] <legoap> ok, sty
#736 [12:34] <oldtopman> legoap: Is your hard drive full?
#737 [12:34] <legoap> no
#738 [12:34] <oldtopman> This is a shot in the dark, but try this script:
#739 [12:34] <oldtopman> ??> legoap win/reinst/bat
#740 [12:34] <VoxelHead> legoap: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#741 [12:34] <VoxelHead> legoap: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#742 [12:36] <legoap> ok, thanks
#743 [12:36] <legoap> i ran the script, it says minecraft was uninstalled, what now
#744 [12:38] <oldtopman> Run minecraft again.
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#746 [12:39] <legoap> it didn't work, is there anything else i can try?
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#748 [12:39] <Lutzee> Let me check the new bug tracker..
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#757 [12:52] <skullguy> hi i need help, 1.4 crashed on me while entering end should i paste the error log?
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#759 [12:52] <skullguy> ok here goes
#760 [12:52] <skullguy> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Exception in server tick loop This error has been saved to C:\Users\Andrew\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2012-10-25_17.43.34-server.txt for your convenience. Please include a copy of this file if you report this crash to anyone. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT ebb1e0a1 ---
#761 [12:54] <Lutzee> ??> skullguy pastebin
#762 [12:55] <VoxelHead> skullguy: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#764 [12:55] <skullguy> http://pastebin.com/14i7mmYj
#765 [12:56] <Lutzee> skullguy: you have mods loaded?
#766 [12:57] <skullguy> just toomanyitems
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#768 [12:57] <Keeshi> Does wheat not work in the new update to get animals to follow you? Pigs and chickens aren't working for me.
#769 [12:58] <puffrfish> chickens need seed
#770 [12:58] <puffrfish> pigs want carrots (on sticks I think)
#771 [12:59] <Keeshi> I just noticed that in the patch notes -_-;
#772 [12:59] <Keeshi> thank you ^_^
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#774 [13:00] <Lutzee> ??> skullguy mods
#775 [13:00] <VoxelHead> skullguy: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#776 [13:00] <VoxelHead> skullguy: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#777 [13:01] <skullguy> yeah the mod works fine it the end that is the problem
#778 [13:01] <skullguy> it's toomanyitems, not that much of a mod
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#780 [13:02] <Selbram> have you considered that the mod might be affecting the_end
#781 [13:02] <dermarionator> I have problems with pistons!
#782 [13:03] <dermarionator> the piston don't go back when the signal is off
#783 [13:03] <dermarionator> there is no other power
#784 [13:03] <dermarionator> when i cut the redstone an paste it again it works?
#785 [13:04] <Selbram> are you using mods?
#786 [13:04] <dermarionator> version 1.3.2
#787 [13:04] <dermarionator> bukkit
#788 [13:04] <dermarionator> no redstone mods
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#790 [13:04] <dermarionator> i build a very big tactactoe machine
#791 [13:04] <Gorki163> ;d
#792 [13:04] <dermarionator> but it hang off
#793 [13:05] <dermarionator> i can upload this machine als schematic
#794 [13:05] <Selbram> redstone can bleed power diagonally for some reason I think it is considered a bug
#795 [13:05] <dermarionator> i think too
#796 [13:06] <dermarionator> but redstone in a other chunk don't load
#797 [13:06] <skullguy> ok refreshed jar still erroring http://pastebin.com/K7N35wv9
#798 [13:06] <Lutzee> skullguy: then i can only assume the world is corrupt
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#800 [13:06] <dermarionator> there problems are only with pistons
#801 [13:07] <dermarionator> they don't work
#802 [13:07] <Keeshi> Its BS that we can only get carrots/potatoes from villages and zombie drops.
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#804 [13:08] <dermarionator> i build an traffic lights and there are the load problems
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#807 [13:08] <dermarionator> i can upload it when you want to fix the bugs
#808 [13:08] <skullguy> any way of not currupting the world ive been making for a good 5 months?
#809 [13:09] <dermarionator> the word is older than 5 mouth
#810 [13:09] <dermarionator> 1 year
#811 [13:09] <dermarionator> there are 2 maps with piston problems
#812 [13:10] <dermarionator> i also use chunkfix for all worlds
#813 [13:10] <dermarionator> and there aren't mistaktes
#814 [13:10] <dermarionator> when you want to check it come to my server....
#815 [13:11] <dermarionator> Marios-Minecraftserver.de:25565
#816 [13:11] <dermarionator> ./Warp tictactoe and warp /warp Ampel
#817 [13:12] <Lutzee> skullguy: did you take backups? :|
#818 [13:13] <dermarionator> no
#819 [13:13] <Lutzee> dermarionator: we aren't here to fix issues on a server, especially a server that is not the vanilla server
#820 [13:13] <skullguy> just one of about a month ago but major work has happened beyond that
#821 [13:13] <dermarionator> build the same at a vannila server and you see that it don't work!
#822 [13:14] <dermarionator> chunks which don't load redstone piston make mistakes
#823 [13:15] <dermarionator> i upload my traffic lights and tictactoe and than you can fix it...
#824 [13:15] <Lutzee> dermarionator: well... that is a limitation in redstone,
#825 [13:16] <Lutzee> There is no way to fix that unless you build all the redstone in one chunk or find a way to keep chunks loaded
#826 [13:16] <dermarionator> ok
#827 [13:16] <dermarionator> but it works when two players are there!
#828 [13:16] <dermarionator> when these player stay there and see all
#829 [13:17] <dermarionator> it works!
#830 [13:17] <Lutzee> :|
#831 [13:17] <dermarionator> but one player don't see this and the pistons don't work
#832 [13:17] <Lutzee> Becuase the chunks are loaded
#833 [13:17] <dermarionator> yes
#834 [13:17] <dermarionator> but this are only the ttraffic lights problems
#835 [13:18] <dermarionator> the tictactoe is in 1 chunk
#836 [13:18] <dermarionator> but there it don't work with two player
#837 [13:18] <dermarionator> the piston hang up the
#838 [13:18] <dermarionator> the are 50 Pistions or more
#839 [13:19] <Lutzee> It could be server lag
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#841 [13:20] <Lutzee> But we really can't help with the limitations of redstone
#842 [13:20] <dermarionator> mm
#843 [13:20] <dermarionator> i upload it
#844 [13:20] <dermarionator> wait
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#846 [13:25] <dermarionator> http://marios-minecraftserver.de:3389/
#847 [13:25] <dermarionator> there is the worldedit schematic
#848 [13:25] <dermarionator> form tictactoe
#849 [13:25] <dermarionator> from
#850 [13:26] <skullguy> fixed the problem myself thank for trying to help
#851 [13:27] <dermarionator> 7
#852 [13:27] <dermarionator> 7316 redstone
#853 [13:28] <dermarionator> 74 piston
#854 [13:28] <Lutzee> dermarionator: i am not at liberty to help with a game limitation. Nor goinf to some random website.
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#856 [13:29] <dermarionator> i send you a screenshot of the fail....
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#858 [13:29] <dermarionator> when the piston hang uo
#859 [13:29] <dermarionator> when the piston hang up
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#861 [13:32] <neonerz> probably not the right place to ask, but this seems the most appropriate. Is anyone else having issues with optifine HD U A6 for 1.4 where zombies and pigmen's textures are all messed up? Seems to only happen with optifine, MCPatcher works no problem
#862 [13:33] <Lutzee> neonerz: um, not the right place.. but i've come accross such when other mods use some fancy rendering, any other mods loaded?
#863 [13:33] <Morrolan> Best place to ask would be Optifine's thread, since, well, I guess you can imagine why. ;D
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#865 [13:34] <neonerz> Lutzee: nah, only optifine. Using magic launcher (but same thing happens when manually installing it)
#866 [13:34] <dermarionator> http://marios-minecraftserver.de:3389/
#867 [13:34] <dermarionator> there are the screens
#868 [13:34] <neonerz> Morrolan: I actually did ask there, I seen a couple people in a few other threads asking the same (or similar) question, but no answers, and it's already a few pages past my post
#869 [13:34] <dermarionator> with the minecraft BUG"
#870 [13:34] <Lutzee> neonerz: okay, best place to ask is the optifine thread
#871 [13:35] <neonerz> I'm really just trying to confirm someone else having the issue so I know I'm not crazy
#872 [13:35] <Morrolan> neonerz - Yea, the issue with popular mods is, that their threads get spammed rather badly.
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#874 [13:35] <Morrolan> You could check Github, maybe someone else opened a ticket about that bug, there.
#875 [13:35] <neonerz> ahhh, good point, didn't even think of that
#876 [13:36] <neonerz> actually does optifine use git?
#877 [13:36] <Morrolan> Assuming its code is freely available, and on Github, of course.
#878 [13:37] <Morrolan> Seems it doesn't.
#879 [13:37] <Morrolan> Any link to its source in the thread?
#880 [13:37] <dermarionator> [19:34] <dermarionator> http://marios-minecraftserver.de:3389/ [19:34] <dermarionator> there are the screens [19:34] <dermarionator> with the minecraft BUG"
#881 [13:37] <neonerz> not, that I can find. I'm looking
#882 [13:38] <neonerz> right, it's not opensource
#883 [13:38] <neonerz> that was the whole thing about it not being included in vanilla. It's not opensource, and the dev and mojang couldn't agree on a payment
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#885 [13:39] <Morrolan> Ah, I see.
#886 [13:40] <Marshall> Would it be possible to delete my minecraft account?
#887 [13:40] <Morrolan> Not really, no.
#888 [13:40] <Morrolan> Well, you could contact Mojang, with proof of purchase, and ask them to remvoe your account, if you really want.
#889 [13:41] <Keeshi> Why would you want to delet it?
#890 [13:41] <Morrolan> remove, even
#891 [13:41] <Marshall> The thing is
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#893 [13:41] <Marshall> I haven't bought minecraft on that account.
#894 [13:41] <Keeshi> uh huh
#895 [13:41] <Morrolan> Uh, then you might be able to confirm that you "own" that account by sending an e-mail or similar.
#896 [13:41] <Morrolan> Contact them, and you shall see. *shrug*
#897 [13:42] <Morrolan> Then again, I wouldn't see why you'd want to delete it in the first place.
#898 [13:42] <Keeshi> Why bother deleteing it, if there isn't a minecraft account on it?
#899 [13:42] <Marshall> Because I registered one of my email addresses on it.
#900 [13:42] <Marshall> And I can't change it because I haven't bought it.
#901 [13:42] <Keeshi> So what?
#902 [13:43] <Marshall> So what?
#903 [13:43] <Morrolan> If your e-mail provider supports it, you could try this: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/980/use-gmail-plus-addressing-to-generate-throw-away-e-mail-addresses/
#904 [13:43] <Morrolan> Keeshi - Can't have more than one account per e-mail, since a while.
#905 [13:43] <Keeshi> Ah.. okay.
#906 [13:43] <Marshall> I wish that was possible, though
#907 [13:44] <Marshall> email for many accounts.
#908 [13:44] <Keeshi> Its been along time. I made my account durring alpha, and never thought about it again LOL
#909 [13:45] <Marshall> Morrolan, but you have to buy Minecraft in order to change email addresses.
#910 [13:45] <Keeshi> Just email mojang - I'm sure they can help you out.
#911 [13:45] <Morrolan> Marshall - Oh, if your e-mail provider supports that, just register the new account with this sub-email adress.
#912 [13:45] <Keeshi> Be honest and tell them whats up
#913 [13:46] <Morrolan> If you want to contact Mojang instead, there's a mail form on, uh, http://help.mojang.com/email/new IIRC
#914 [13:46] <Morrolan> Nope
#915 [13:46] <Morrolan> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#916 [13:47] <Marshall> Uh, how long does it usually take Mojang to respond?
#917 [13:47] <dermarionator> [19:34] <dermarionator> http://marios-minecraftserver.de:3389/ [19:34] <dermarionator> there are the screens [19:34] <dermarionator> with the minecraft BUG"
#918 [13:48] <Keeshi> Does it matter? Just talk to them
#919 [13:48] <Keeshi> If you want it done, do it. No one else can help you bro LOL
#920 [13:49] <Marshall> Morrolan, you there?
#921 [13:49] <Morrolan> Marshall - A few weeks ago they finally managed to catch up. I guess by now it'l be a few days.
#922 [13:49] <Morrolan> it'll*
#923 [13:49] <Morrolan> dermarionator - Hmm?
#924 [13:49] <Marshall> ..
#925 [13:49] <Marshall> Few days.
#926 [13:49] <dermarionator> what?
#927 [13:49] <dermarionator> do you see this?
#928 [13:49] <Morrolan> I do not.
#929 [13:49] <dermarionator> look at the image
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#931 [13:49] <Morrolan> That's what I've been doing.
#932 [13:50] <Morrolan> I see, uh, redstone, and pistons.
#933 [13:50] <dermarionator> yes ^^
#934 [13:50] <dermarionator> 3 Days with 2 people
#935 [13:50] <dermarionator> and it don't work because of this
#936 [13:51] <Lutzee> Morrolan: he has the problems where pistons are activated by block updates and thus don't deactivate
#937 [13:51] <Morrolan> Ah.
#938 [13:51] <ThomQ> hmmm
#939 [13:52] <ThomQ> anyway to roll back the update? :D
#940 [13:52] <Lutzee> ?? oldversion
#941 [13:52] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#942 [13:52] <ThomQ> :O reinstall? :(
#943 [13:52] <Lutzee> Or you can scroll back on the mojang website and find the 1.3.2 pre release
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#945 [13:53] <ThomQ> i should have just backuped.. But i got excited :D
#946 [13:53] <Morrolan> A few hours ago, the 1.3.2 binary was still available on their webserver.
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#948 [13:54] <Morrolan> Now if only I could recall the URL.
#949 [13:54] <Lutzee> assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar
#950 [13:54] <Morrolan> Oh, underscores it is, I've tried dots.
#951 [13:55] <Morrolan> Huh, you can even list the main folder's content.
#952 [13:55] <Morrolan> That does make it easier.
#953 [13:55] <Lutzee> Its all xml documented :p
#954 [13:55] <ThomQ> 12w32 and such are snapshots, right?
#955 [13:56] <Morrolan> When did they change their policy of "We offer the most recent version onyl"?
#956 [13:56] <Morrolan> Yep
#957 [13:56] * Lutzee points at http://assets.minecraft.net/sopa.jpg
#957 [13:56] <Morrolan> only*
#958 [13:56] <ThomQ> mcnostalgia-ing it
#959 [13:56] <dermarionator> do you find a mistake with piston??
#960 [13:56] <Morrolan> Pistons are one of the buggiest things in Minecraft.
#961 [13:58] <dermarionator> i see ^^
#962 [13:58] <dermarionator> how i can build in an other way?
#963 [13:58] <dermarionator> it
#964 [13:59] <dermarionator> i need 1 button and an reset who set it on signal 0
#965 [13:59] <dermarionator> i find there a thing but
#966 [13:59] <dermarionator> it don't work with repeater
#967 [13:59] <dermarionator> it don't work with repeater
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#969 [14:00] <dermarionator> button repeater and the build for this dont work
#970 [14:00] <Lutzee> Use an RS nor latch
#971 [14:00] <dermarionator> but button and the build work?
#972 [14:00] <dermarionator> it don't work with repeater
#973 [14:01] <dermarionator> when i build the button far away with repeater!
#974 [14:01] <dermarionator> when i build the button far away with repeater!
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#976 [14:02] <ThomQ> I am kinda curious about the updates though, but I cant get on our server, its still 1.3.2
#977 [14:02] <ThomQ> Carrots!!! :D
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#979 [14:04] <dermarionator> you cant add to this two button with repeater?
#980 [14:04] <dermarionator> the repeater send the signal back i think
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#982 [14:05] <dermarionator> please fix the piston
#983 [14:05] <dermarionator> bye bye
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#985 [14:06] <Lutzee> Finally
#986 [14:06] <ThomQ> you hear that Lutzee
#987 [14:06] <ThomQ> please fix the piston! ;)
#988 [14:07] * Lutzee removes pistons from the game, and replaces them with blocks of pure mint chock chip icecream
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#989 [14:12] <Calinou> mint is slow, better put red hats instead
#990 [14:12] <Calinou> they also push blocks but you have to pay them
#991 [14:12] <Calinou> *** DISTRO WAR STARTED *** (even though I hate both)
#992 [14:13] <Boreeas> Someone I know started using Fedora recently, and loves it
#993 [14:14] <ThomQ> what is it?
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#995 [14:15] <Selbram> Fedora Linux - Redhat bleeding edge
#996 [14:16] <ThomQ> Ahh I see
#997 [14:16] <Lutzee> ThomQ: If you don't know about linux, its a free open source operating system that anyone can edit
#998 [14:16] <Lutzee> There are lots of different implementations
#999 [14:16] <Lutzee> From debian to redhat to arch
#1000 [14:16] <ThomQ> yeah I know what linux is, what ubuntu & centos are etc :)
#1001 [14:16] <ThomQ> im running my server on a centos VPS actually
#1002 [14:17] <Boreeas> Centos is that RHEL fork, right?
#1003 [14:17] <ThomQ> Yeah
#1004 [14:18] <ThomQ> let me say, I was not prepared for just a command prompt as interface
#1005 [14:18] <ThomQ> had to search for a DOS -> LINUX site :P
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#1007 [14:18] <Boreeas> I found it fairly easy to get used to
#1008 [14:18] <Lutzee> I expected it
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#1010 [14:19] <Lutzee> Personally command line is much easier to work with when using limited systems like server software
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#1012 [14:19] <Lutzee> Even commandline text editors are decent
#1013 [14:19] * Lutzee points at vim
#1013 [14:19] <ThomQ> yeah, I like it a lot. Using a SSH client works wonders
#1014 [14:19] <Boreeas> I use the command line on my laptop, too. Mainly for things like moving files, navigating directories, creating files with some default content
#1015 [14:19] <Calinou> vim sucks
#1016 [14:19] <Calinou> nano ftw
#1017 [14:19] <Boreeas> emacs
#1018 [14:19] <Calinou> *** EDITOR WAR STARTED **
#1019 [14:19] <Boreeas> Emacs all the way
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#1021 [14:20] <Calinou> emacs makes any computer slow
#1022 [14:20] <Calinou> eight megabytes and constantly swapping.
#1023 [14:20] <Calinou> a good operating system only lacking a decent text editor
#1024 [14:20] <ThomQ> Monodevelop 4 evah!
#1025 [14:20] <Boreeas> Monodevlop is a gui editor though, no?
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#1027 [14:21] <Boreeas> In that case, go Geany :P
#1028 [14:21] <Lutzee> Someone on my course programs in vim
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#1030 [14:21] <Boreeas> Poor Lutzee
#1031 [14:21] <Lutzee> Also i kind of expected Calinou to retort with nano
#1032 [14:22] <ThomQ> Bor: I dont think so. Eclipse does though, I use that too
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#1034 [14:22] <ThomQ> But I'm used to Monodevlop, the Unity version
#1035 [14:23] <Boreeas> If I need a fullfledged IDE, I tend to use Netbeans, but let'S not start a third religious war in 10 minutes
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#1037 [14:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> gedit ftw
#1038 [14:25] <ThomQ> real diehards swear by Notepad
#1039 [14:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> hexedit
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#1041 [14:27] <Lutzee> ThomQ: notepad is horrible
#1042 [14:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> Lutzee: i think it was a joke
#1043 [14:27] <Lutzee> Notepad++ if you want a windows gui editor :p
#1044 [14:30] <Boreeas> Butterfly!
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#1047 [14:50] <shadestep> i forgot my password and i dont receive an email with the new one ca anybody help?
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#1050 [14:57] <Nelson> Hello?
#1051 [14:57] <puffrfish> hello
#1052 [14:57] <Selbram> hello
#1053 [14:58] <Nelson> Hi, umm i have a specific werver that i love to play on but i cant play it becasue of the update so im wondering if there is any way to remove the update?
#1054 [14:58] <Nelson> server
#1055 [14:58] <Lutzee> ?? oldversion
#1056 [14:58] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#1057 [14:59] <Nelson> thank yo so much
#1058 [14:59] <Nelson> you
#1059 [14:59] <Nelson> And one more question
#1060 [15:00] <Nelson> I play mc on a mac
#1061 [15:00] <Nelson> and im wodering how to get the xray mod on a mac
#1062 [15:00] <Nelson> because it is very different
#1063 [15:00] <Selbram> ?? mods
#1064 [15:00] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1065 [15:00] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1066 [15:00] <Nelson> ok thanks
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#1089 [15:52] <thebaconfromhell> hello
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#1091 [15:56] <Selbram> hello
#1092 [15:56] <VanHuek> I am wanting to try install Forge for my SMP server but on the page it has no instructions, how do I do it?
#1093 [15:56] <VanHuek> and which one do I download?
#1094 [15:58] <Selbram> ?? mods
#1095 [15:58] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1096 [15:58] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1097 [15:58] <DiskDaemon> VanHuek: Mods aren't supported here. Please go to the #minecraftforge channel
#1098 [15:59] <VanHuek> Sorry. Refrained from asking in #minecraft , wasn't certain where to
#1099 [15:59] <thebaconfromhell> lol
#1100 [15:59] <Lutzee> #minecraftforge is not #minecraft
#1101 [15:59] <thebaconfromhell> but yeah id go with bukkit, bro
#1102 [15:59] <thebaconfromhell> check that out
#1103 [16:00] <Lutzee> thebaconfromhell: bukkit does not support the loading of forge mods
#1104 [16:00] <VanHuek> I know but was going to post there at first... and Bukkit doesn't support 1.4.2 either..
#1105 [16:00] <Selbram> yes
#1106 [16:00] <Lutzee> Where as soon forge will support the loading of bukkit plugins :p
#1107 [16:00] <Selbram> yet
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#1110 [16:01] <roktheworld27> HEY GUUISE.
#1111 [16:01] <roktheworld27> so i updated my client to 1.4, but I have no idea how to update my server.
#1112 [16:01] <roktheworld27> halp pl0x
#1113 [16:02] <Lutzee> Is it a bukkit server? If so you need to wait for bukkit to update to 1.4.2
#1114 [16:02] <VanHuek> Delete the .exe and replace with one on the website
#1115 [16:02] <itzmjauz> roktheworld27: Just download the new minecraft_server.jar
#1116 [16:02] <VanHuek> if windows
#1117 [16:02] <roktheworld27> I think it's a bukkit server
#1118 [16:02] <roktheworld27> ;_______________;
#1119 [16:02] <thebaconfromhell> lol
#1120 [16:03] <roktheworld27> appreciate it, thanks :)
#1121 [16:03] <itzmjauz> Ah crap I'm too used to linux.
#1122 [16:03] <roktheworld27> Linux, I haven't used Linux in ages
#1123 [16:03] <roktheworld27> Dual-booted Ubuntu on my old crappy desktop years ago
#1124 [16:04] <itzmjauz> roktheworld27: Ubuntu became shitty
#1125 [16:04] <itzmjauz> roktheworld27: Every update it became more and more like windows.
#1126 [16:04] <roktheworld27> lolWindows
#1127 [16:04] <roktheworld27> Hmm, the latest version of Ubuntu....
#1128 [16:04] <roktheworld27> I forgot what it was, it had a fancy name
#1129 [16:05] <itzmjauz> True that, I think the only reason why I would want ubuntu running now would be it's name
#1130 [16:05] <roktheworld27> Honestly i think the most decent OS out right now is OS X
#1131 [16:05] <roktheworld27> they REALLLLLLLY messed windows up with windows 8
#1132 [16:05] <itzmjauz> Hmm. Depens on what you want to do
#1133 [16:05] <itzmjauz> ATM I'm running archlinux and windows 7.
#1134 [16:05] <Lutzee> Quantal Quetzal is the current name for ubuntu
#1135 [16:06] <itzmjauz> There are enough Linux distro's , which are all better than OS X.
#1136 [16:06] <itzmjauz> ( but still, Depends on what you want / and need )
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#1138 [16:07] <itzmjauz> If you play a shit ton of games, and like to program random stuff. than dual booting arch and windows is perfect.
#1139 [16:07] <itzmjauz> then*
#1140 [16:07] <roktheworld27> I program in Objective-C
#1141 [16:07] <roktheworld27> So a Mac is vital for that
#1142 [16:07] <roktheworld27> Well, I'm learning at least...
#1143 [16:07] <roktheworld27> and running a dev-team, so yeah
#1144 [16:08] <themezz1999> hi i just downloaded the 1.4.2 version of minecraft but now i cant get on to a 1.3.2 server how do i get 1.3.2 back
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#1146 [16:08] <itzmjauz> themezz1999: Either get the old client files, or download techniclauncher, which will do that for you
#1147 [16:09] <themezz1999> how
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#1149 [16:09] <itzmjauz> themezz1999: At the options of vanilla in techniclauncher, you can set the version you want to run
#1150 [16:09] <itzmjauz> themezz1999: http://www.technicpack.net/
#1151 [16:09] <roktheworld27> gonna run a LAN server for now cause yolo
#1152 [16:09] <itzmjauz> themezz1999: It has a few mod-builds in it too, That's what it is used fo.
#1153 [16:10] <itzmjauz> roktheworld27: objective C , I learned C , #sharp and C++ , all with different reasons.
#1154 [16:10] <themezz1999> so i go to my server then what
#1155 [16:10] <itzmjauz> roktheworld27: #c was for unity, C++ for fun with openGL, and C idk.
#1156 [16:10] <itzmjauz> themezz1999: Your server is 1.3.2 and your client is 1.4.2 right?
#1157 [16:10] <roktheworld27> itzmjauz: openGL, a member of my team was yelling at it yesterday -_- but hey, i'd like to learn all of those one day xD
#1158 [16:11] <itzmjauz> roktheworld27: I like your way of thinking :P
#1159 [16:11] <themezz1999> no
#1160 [16:11] <themezz1999> i have regular minecraft
#1161 [16:11] <itzmjauz> roktheworld27: There are openGL bindings for everything now, experimenting with it was fun.
#1162 [16:11] <themezz1999> i updated it but i want the old version
#1163 [16:11] <Morrolan> In order to downgrade back to 1.3.2, grab the binary from http://assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar and slap it into .minecraft/bin
#1164 [16:11] <itzmjauz> themezz1999: Yeah I get it.
#1165 [16:11] <themezz1999> back
#1166 [16:12] <itzmjauz> themezz1999: ^ There ya go mate.
#1167 [16:12] <themezz1999> how did you know wat i just did
#1168 [16:12] <itzmjauz> themezz1999: I know everything.
#1169 [16:13] <themezz1999> are you a hacker
#1170 [16:13] <Morrolan> ??+ v/1.3.2|Minecraft 1.3.2 binaries can be found on: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar
#1171 [16:13] <itzmjauz> themezz1999: Maybe.
#1172 [16:13] <Morrolan> Oh, right, hostmask. <.<
#1173 [16:13] <themezz1999> im getting out of here
#1174 [16:13] <roktheworld27> o_o
#1175 [16:13] <roktheworld27> well
#1176 [16:13] <itzmjauz> Did I really just...
#1177 [16:13] <itzmjauz> Oh well.
#1178 [16:13] <roktheworld27> LOL.
#1179 [16:13] <roktheworld27> couldn't tell if he was a troll
#1180 [16:13] <roktheworld27> or just naturally like that o_O
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#1182 [16:14] <itzmjauz> Maybe was a kid, and got scared?
#1183 [16:14] <Morrolan> What was he even wondering that you knew?
#1184 [16:14] <roktheworld27> Probably….
#1185 [16:14] <itzmjauz> 'Yeah I get it' < I think it went wrong there
#1186 [16:14] <roktheworld27> A kid briefed my Minecraft server and I scared the living crap out of him one day...
#1187 [16:14] <roktheworld27> The smaller kids get scared easily
#1188 [16:15] <Morrolan> itzmjauz - Oh, people who understand what other people say, scary indeed. ^.^
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#1190 [16:16] <itzmjauz> Morrolan: Oh maybe where I asked what versions his client and server where.
#1191 [16:17] <Morrolan> Heh, maybe.
#1192 [16:18] <Morrolan> ??+ v/1.3.2|Minecraft 1.3.2 binaries can be found on: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar
#1193 [16:18] * Morrolan prods VoxelHead
#1193 [16:19] <Morrolan> ??< v/1.3.2
#1194 [16:19] <Morrolan> There we go. :)
#1195 [16:19] * itzmjauz Doesn't get it, but is still impressed
#1195 [16:19] <Morrolan> I've added a new factoid to its database. ;D
#1196 [16:19] <roktheworld27> Heh, 1.4 isn't that bad.
#1197 [16:19] <Morrolan> ?? v/1.3.2
#1198 [16:19] <VoxelHead> v/1.3.2: Minecraft 1.3.2 binaries can be found on: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar
#1199 [16:20] * Morrolan points up
#1199 [16:20] <Morrolan> Saves some typing.
#1200 [16:20] <itzmjauz> I'm assuming only OP's and such can do that ?
#1201 [16:20] <lukegb> ??< v/1.3.2
#1202 [16:20] <lukegb> ):
#1203 [16:22] <itzmjauz> ?? v/1.3.2
#1204 [16:22] <VoxelHead> v/1.3.2: Minecraft 1.3.2 binaries can be found on: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar
#1205 [16:22] <itzmjauz> \o/ I'm hereby a true magician
#1206 [16:23] <lukegb> itzmjauz: ??< notices you
#1207 [16:23] <lukegb> I just :( because it didn't respond immediately :3
#1208 [16:23] <Lutzee> itzmjauz: only people with the perms can add to the database, but anyone can trigger the factoids
#1209 [16:24] <Morrolan> It's like a mine, really.
#1210 [16:25] <Morrolan> Without the proper training I wouldn't think of disarming or building one, but triggering it is rather eas.y
#1211 [16:25] <Morrolan> And with this silly statement, I'll be off. *waves*
#1212 [16:27] * GreyVulpine waves
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#1215 [16:35] <pc> hello
#1216 [16:35] <pc> i have a probleme minecraft isnt working
#1217 [16:35] <pc> bad video card drivers
#1218 [16:35] <Selbram> Update your video card drivers.
#1219 [16:36] <Lildirt> Beat me to it :P
#1220 [16:36] <Lutzee> ??> pc win/dxdiag
#1221 [16:36] <VoxelHead> pc: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1222 [16:36] <VoxelHead> pc: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1223 [16:36] <pc> yeah but i had the same problem whit a other omputer and they found a solution so i hope they can help me whit this computer too
#1224 [16:37] <Selbram> ...
#1225 [16:37] <Selbram> Do what VoxelHead said
#1226 [16:37] <pc> http://pastebin.com/La3tn1wE
#1227 [16:38] <Selbram> Excellent
#1228 [16:38] <pc> here it is
#1229 [16:40] <Lutzee> pc: minecraft wont run on that PC
#1230 [16:40] <Lutzee> 100% certain it wont
#1231 [16:40] <pc> ok thanks for helping;)
#1232 [16:40] <pc> but its not the videocard
#1233 [16:40] <Lutzee> Your video card does not support openGL which minecraft requires
#1234 [16:41] <pc> ok thx
#1235 [16:43] <itzmjauz> lukegb: Yeah thought so, but I'm still considering myself a magician
#1236 [16:43] <Boreeas> Haha, "Default VGA adapter"
#1237 [16:43] <itzmjauz> Here we go again <
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#1245 [16:55] <pigorcket> hello
#1246 [16:55] <Lutzee> hey
#1247 [16:55] <pigorcket> i have some crazy minecraft errors if anyone is up for the challenge
#1248 [16:55] <Lutzee> Sure, post them on pastebin.com then copy the link here
#1249 [16:55] <pigorcket> i have them on this link https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-297
#1250 [16:57] <Lutzee> Ooooooo its you
#1251 [16:57] <pigorcket> :p
#1252 [16:57] <Lutzee> I'm the one commenting on that post :D
#1253 [16:57] <pigorcket> haha
#1254 [16:57] <Lutzee> ??> pigorcket win/dxdiag
#1255 [16:57] <VoxelHead> pigorcket: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1256 [16:57] <VoxelHead> pigorcket: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1257 [16:57] <DiskDaemon> yeah - pixel format issues are directly due to the video card graphics drivers
#1258 [16:58] <pigorcket> i suppose it's my drivers or something. i just dont remember changing or updating anything
#1259 [16:58] <pigorcket> ok ill do that 1 sec
#1260 [16:59] <pigorcket> http://pastebin.com/kjW99m0E
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#1263 [17:02] <pigorcket> ive tried upgrading and downgrading display drivers
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#1265 [17:03] <pigorcket> but i could be doing the wrong ones
#1266 [17:03] <Lutzee> Er yeah that is pretty old indeed
#1267 [17:03] <DiskDaemon> Okay, an intel video card - do you have access to a 3D graphics card at all?
#1268 [17:03] <DiskDaemon> we'll see if we can find more recent intel drivers for you
#1269 [17:04] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/intel
#1270 [17:04] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1271 [17:04] <Lutzee> Here http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16835&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers
#1272 [17:04] * Lutzee throws small pebbles at git
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#1272 [17:05] <pigorcket> ok, when i restart, i will be back after with results
#1273 [17:05] <pigorcket> thanks!
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#1276 [17:09] <noahcrawford> Hey, I have had many ongoing problems with minecraft recently. The main one that I need to figure out is this: For the past couple of months, whenever I try to update minecraft, it gets stuck in the process and freezes. This happens if I am updating to a new version, or even if I do force update.
#1277 [17:09] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
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#1279 [17:11] <night98> i need hwlp with an error
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#1281 [17:11] <noahcrawford> Ok, I will try that. But, what I find extremely odd, is that it is kind of a game of chance with a 95%-99% chance of losing. It always stops at a different place, and sometimes I will get really lucky and it won't stop at all.
#1282 [17:12] <noahcrawford> Oh, and I just remembered, I already tried the disabling of the antivirus thing before.
#1283 [17:12] <Lutzee> noahcrawford: which antivirus?
#1284 [17:13] <noahcrawford> AVG
#1285 [17:13] <night98> i need help with an error on minecraft
#1286 [17:13] <noahcrawford> I have made it allow minecraft
#1287 [17:13] <DiskDaemon> night98: What's the error that you're having?
#1288 [17:13] <noahcrawford> this problem had popped up randomly a couple months back
#1289 [17:13] <Lutzee> noahcrawford: you need to disable the link scanner module
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#1291 [17:13] <night98> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Comparison method violates its general contract!
#1292 [17:13] <night98> at java.util.TimSort.mergeHi(Unknown Source)
#1293 [17:13] <night98> at java.util.TimSort.mergeAt(Unknown Source)
#1294 [17:13] <night98> at java.util.TimSort.mergeCollapse(Unknown Source)
#1295 [17:13] <pigorcket> ok so i ran that driver
#1296 [17:14] <DiskDaemon> noahcrawford: Allowing the minecraft program is very different from preventing avg from blocking the file downloads
#1297 [17:14] <noahcrawford> How do i do that? Er, I mean like what is it?
#1298 [17:14] <night98> opps
#1299 [17:14] <night98> sorry
#1300 [17:14] <DiskDaemon> ??> night98 pastebin
#1301 [17:14] <VoxelHead> night98: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1302 [17:14] <night98> ok
#1303 [17:15] <DiskDaemon> noahcrawford: AVG has a false positive with some of the minecraft files. Temporarily disable avg for the purpose of downloading the update
#1304 [17:15] <noahcrawford> ok. Thanks. one sec...
#1305 [17:16] <pigorcket> can someone help me with driver issues?
#1306 [17:16] <Lutzee> pigorcket: did it work?
#1307 [17:16] <pigorcket> nope
#1308 [17:16] <night98> ok i think i did it
#1309 [17:16] <noahcrawford> Nope, didn't help at all...
#1310 [17:16] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: Please provide a new dxdiag report for comparison
#1311 [17:17] <noahcrawford> it usually gets stuck at retrieving my .jar
#1312 [17:17] <DiskDaemon> noahcrawford: Let's see if there's more details on the cause. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1313 [17:17] <pigorcket> new report http://pastebin.com/rsx0KZJn
#1314 [17:20] <noahcrawford> My minecraft launcher is on my desktop, so I can't get that command. Can I just do it from the normal command prompt? (Windows method 1)
#1315 [17:20] <night98> did you get my error yet
#1316 [17:21] <Lutzee> night98: you need to give us the link
#1317 [17:21] <night98> oh
#1318 [17:21] <night98> umm
#1319 [17:21] <noahcrawford> Oh yeah, i forgot to mention, it doesn't work even if I select "Not Now"
#1320 [17:22] <noahcrawford> for the update i mean
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#1323 [17:24] <DiskDaemon> hrm, the driver still shows itself as being version 6.14.0010.4926
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#1325 [17:25] <pigorcket> wot
#1326 [17:25] <pigorcket> that's odd
#1327 [17:25] <pigorcket> should i try again?
#1328 [17:25] <Vorkal> okay so when i try to start minecraft i get an error reading : cannot create the java virtual machine.
#1329 [17:26] <noahcrawford> Yeah, minecraft just doesn't work for me anymore. I can't play it whether I want to update or not, so I guess I just won't play it :/
#1330 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> Vorkal: can we get some system details from you?
#1331 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> ??> Vorkal win/dxdiag
#1332 [17:26] <VoxelHead> Vorkal: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1333 [17:26] <VoxelHead> Vorkal: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1334 [17:26] <noahcrawford> alright then.
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#1336 [17:27] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: should i try updating the driver again or what?
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#1338 [17:28] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: I don't know much about intel drivers - why it didn't seem to affect your computer, I don't know
#1339 [17:28] <DiskDaemon> You'll see on the webpage for it though that it's version 14.32.4.4926 for the new one
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#1341 [17:29] <pigorcket> hmmm
#1342 [17:30] <Lutzee> Considering your PC isn't oem, the straight intel driver should have worked
#1343 [17:32] <pigorcket> i'll try updating again i guess?
#1344 [17:32] <pigorcket> brb restarting
#1345 [17:34] <night98> http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=4KdTW6td
#1346 [17:34] <night98> i think that the one
#1347 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> night98: Just the url of the pastebin webpage will be fine
#1348 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> That being, http://pastebin.com/4KdTW6td
#1349 [17:35] <night98> ok
#1350 [17:35] <Lutzee> Thats an odd error
#1351 [17:35] <Lutzee> What is com.mojang.minecraft doing there o.o
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#1353 [17:36] <DiskDaemon> night98: I take it that you're running a mod, something like Iconomy?
#1354 [17:36] <Lutzee> It has never not been net.minecraft.src
#1355 [17:36] <Vorkal> ok here it is http://pastebin.com/dzYwtsNX
#1356 [17:36] <night98> im running a mc server
#1357 [17:36] <Lutzee> night98: bukkit?
#1358 [17:37] <night98> no
#1359 [17:37] <Lutzee> Er so the basic minecraft_server.exe/.jar ?
#1360 [17:37] <night98> yes
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#1362 [17:38] <night98> everytime i go in the world i want it comes up with the error
#1363 [17:38] <DiskDaemon> I see that error occurs with quickbench, or world of minecraft
#1364 [17:38] <DiskDaemon> even with bukkit
#1365 [17:38] <night98> i dont use bukkit
#1366 [17:39] <DiskDaemon> What version of server are you running?
#1367 [17:40] <DiskDaemon> Vorkal: Thanks for the link, it looks like your video card graphics drivers may need to be updated
#1368 [17:40] <night98> mcdawn 1.0.1.4
#1369 [17:41] <DiskDaemon> What is mcdawn?
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#1372 [17:41] <DiskDaemon> Oh, it's a classic version
#1373 [17:41] <Vorkal> diskdaemon you got my link right?
#1374 [17:41] <night98> yes
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#1376 [17:41] <DiskDaemon> Vorkal: yes
#1377 [17:42] <Vorkal> ok cool.
#1378 [17:42] <DiskDaemon> night98: We stopped supporting the classic version here a long time ago
#1379 [17:42] <night98> ok how do i fix the error
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#1381 [17:42] <pigorcket> hello im back
#1382 [17:43] <pigorcket> minecraft still doesn't work
#1383 [17:43] <night98> do i report it to mojang
#1384 [17:43] <DiskDaemon> night98: There's virtually nobody here now who has experience with the classic version. Good luck
#1385 [17:43] <pigorcket> im not sure if the driver was a successful update either?
#1386 [17:43] <Lutzee> night98: Mojang does not support classic either
#1387 [17:43] <night98> darn
#1388 [17:43] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: Well, you can always bring forth another dxdiag report
#1389 [17:44] <pigorcket> http://pastebin.com/yqt50mwM
#1390 [17:44] <pigorcket> on dat
#1391 [17:44] <night98> how about java
#1392 [17:44] <DiskDaemon> night98: I suggest that you approach the people who maintain the server about the issue
#1393 [17:44] <DiskDaemon> night98: I suggest that you approach the people who maintain the server about the issue
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#1395 [17:44] <night98> ok thanks
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#1398 [17:44] <DiskDaemon> night98: Oh look - bug reports http://www.mcdawn.com/forums/bug-reports.5/
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#1401 [17:49] <chris123> bad video card driver what is that?
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#1404 [17:49] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: I think it says I updated this time
#1405 [17:49] <chris123> bad video card driver what is that?
#1406 [17:50] <pigorcket> mine?
#1407 [17:50] <pigorcket> 6.14.0010.4926 looks like the newest version
#1408 [17:50] <pigorcket> the newest i could find
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#1411 [17:52] <Lutzee> pigorcket: note your graphics chip is classed as discontinued
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#1413 [17:52] <Lutzee> And you are on the latest it seems
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#1415 [17:54] <pigorcket> yeah, but ive played minecraft with this same hardware
#1416 [17:54] <pigorcket> so it should be working
#1417 [17:54] <DiskDaemon> Vorkal: Please do not private message me. Your messages get lost in the porn channel that I'm in
#1418 [17:54] <pigorcket> which leads me to think it's not my graphics card, but i dont know what else
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#1420 [17:55] <Vorkal_> does anyone know how to fix: could not create the java virtual machine error?
#1421 [17:55] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: Mojang have a solution to the "pixel format not accelerated" situation at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/364794-where-can-i-find-more-help-and-tech-support-
#1422 [17:56] <techno156> Vorkal, re-install java
#1423 [17:56] <techno156> just in case
#1424 [17:56] <Vorkal_> i have
#1425 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> Vorkal: Can we get a crash report that might explain why it can't create it? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#1427 [17:56] <techno156> also Vorkal_,
#1428 [17:56] <techno156> ??>> Vorkal_ Pastebin
#1429 [17:56] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: Thanks, I'll check that out
#1430 [17:57] <jc> i have been having a problem with my minecraft. The minecraft.jar is corrupted and i cant find my minecraft folder even when i search it. i cant delete the file so my game is unplayable . anyone have a solution
#1431 [17:57] <DiskDaemon> ??> jc win/reinst
#1432 [17:57] <VoxelHead> jc: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1433 [17:57] <VoxelHead> jc: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1434 [17:57] <jc> i have a mac so it doesnt work that way
#1435 [17:57] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: I don't see a fix for it. It just says what the problem is.
#1436 [17:57] <DiskDaemon> ??> jc mac/reinst
#1437 [17:58] <jc> OS X lion
#1438 [17:58] <VoxelHead> jc: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1439 [17:58] <VoxelHead> jc: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1440 [17:58] <techno156> DiskDaemon, Minecraft client, server are 1.4.2 - Boo! =?
#1441 [17:58] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: Mojang in the Description area provide alternative causes for it, and in the Solution area info too
#1442 [17:58] <jc> i checked there and the minecraft folder is missing
#1443 [17:59] <DiskDaemon> jc: I wish I could be of further help for you in regard to mac's
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#1445 [18:00] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: I don't understand how to go about finding what hardware could be imparing the OpenGL stuff.
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#1453 [18:01] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: That's the best help that I can give you on it. Pixel format issues are almost certainly due to your graphics drivers being too old. Apart from rare issues with gamepad devices, that's about it.
#1454 [18:01] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: The solution from here seems to be to stop using bloody old computer equipment
#1455 [18:02] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: It worked with this equipment 3 days ago, though
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#1457 [18:02] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: Good - go back to how things were a few days ago
#1458 [18:02] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: There's no advice you can give?
#1459 [18:02] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: I'm all tapped out
#1460 [18:02] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: well thanks for trying
#1461 [18:03] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: I did say my problem was a dousie
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#1463 [18:04] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: Yours is a problem that we successfully resolve for people in here 95% of the time. You just seem to be in a situation that doesn't fall in to that group
#1464 [18:04] <techno145> GreyVulpine, Minecraft client, server are 1.4.2 - Boo! =??
#1465 [18:04] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: doesn't that mean it's a different problem?
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#1467 [18:05] <techno145> pigorcket, nto always
#1468 [18:05] <techno145> *not
#1469 [18:05] <Lutzee> techno145: its the pretty scary update :p
#1470 [18:05] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: At this stage it still seems to be that your graphics drivers don't understand how to do what Minecraft is asking them to do
#1471 [18:05] <techno145> Oh I see
#1472 [18:06] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: Are you running things in a virtual machine, perhaps?
#1473 [18:06] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: That doesn't make sense, though. Not that I want to buy a new computer just to play Minecraft, but I do like the game. And it worked with my same hardware :[
#1474 [18:06] <techno145> Have you asked pigorcket to check his video settings? DiskDaemon?
#1475 [18:06] <DiskDaemon> If so, then that can be a cause of the same problem too
#1476 [18:06] <pigorcket> what can?
#1477 [18:07] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: The virtual machine issue can cause the same issue
#1478 [18:07] <pigorcket> wat
#1479 [18:07] <DiskDaemon> techno145: I havent due to not being familiar with that form of troubleshooting - do you want to?
#1480 [18:08] <techno145> Maybe there's something in his video settings causeing the bug
#1481 [18:08] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: If you don't know what I'm talking about i terms of the virtual machine, then you almost certainly aren't dealing with that situation
#1482 [18:09] <pigorcket> i dont think i do
#1483 [18:09] <pigorcket> what is this situation?
#1484 [18:09] <Vorkal_> this is the error i get in the lod.txt : Error occurred during initialization of VM Could not reserve enough space for object heap
#1485 [18:09] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: If I'm to understand correctly, your situation is one where you have a "pixel format not accelerated" issue
#1486 [18:10] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: ok
#1487 [18:10] <DiskDaemon> Vorkal_: It seems that your computer needs more memory
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#1490 [18:10] <Vorkal_> ok thank you for the assistance.
#1491 [18:10] <techno156> Do you get a window saying java was unable to load the virtual machine or some such rubbish?
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#1493 [18:10] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: like, disk memory?
#1494 [18:10] <DiskDaemon> It might be possible to force Minecraft to load with less memory, such as 512mb or even 384mb
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#1496 [18:11] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: I was saying that to vorkal
#1497 [18:11] <pigorcket> DiskDaemon: oh
#1498 [18:11] <techno156> DiskDaemon also means RAM
#1499 [18:11] <techno156> I presume
#1500 [18:12] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#1501 [18:12] <pigorcket> that's what pixel format accelerating is complaining about then?
#1502 [18:12] <DiskDaemon> Anyone who thinks that memory means things like hard drives, they need a swift course of retro-phrenology to adjust their thinking about things
#1503 [18:13] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: It's complaining that the video card drivers report that they don't know how to accelerate the pixel format that is attempting to be used
#1504 [18:13] <pigorcket> i was trying to clarify between ram with that question
#1505 [18:13] <pigorcket> ok
#1506 [18:13] <pigorcket> so
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#1508 [18:14] <pigorcket> you said there was an issue i wasnt dealing with
#1509 [18:14] <DiskDaemon> I did?
#1510 [18:14] <pigorcket> pigorcket: If you don't know what I'm talking about i terms of the virtual machine, then you almost certainly aren't dealing with that situation
#1511 [18:14] <TehPolarBearr> Hey. I seem to be having an issue with my skin not loading, although I've loaded it to the site and waited over 15 minutes... It's still the default.
#1512 [18:14] <techno156> pigorcket, Try checking with the software that came with the video cards
#1513 [18:14] <techno156> If they were included with the computer, then look it up
#1514 [18:14] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: That's right - you don't have that situation so don't bother with it
#1515 [18:15] <pigorcket> now im not sure if you know what my situation is or not
#1516 [18:15] <DiskDaemon> TehPolarBearr: Go to http://help.mojang.com/ - the skins server is down
#1517 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: Please reiterate your issue for the clarification of those here if you must
#1518 [18:16] <TehPolarBearr> WHYYYYYYYYYYY~
#1519 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> TehPolarBearr: Because.
#1520 [18:16] <techno156> Well?
#1521 [18:16] <techno156> how do mibbit clients connect to espernet?
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#1523 [18:16] <pigorcket> minecraft won't run when i open it
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#1525 [18:17] <techno156> Seems strange, when I get banned from some channels if I add mib_ to my name... O_O
#1526 [18:17] <techno156> pigorcket, do you have enough RAM?
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#1528 [18:17] <pigorcket> that is something i have not explored yet
#1529 [18:17] <pigorcket> here is the error I get http://pastebin.com/dKpQUE0M
#1530 [18:17] <VoxelHead> pigorcket: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1531 [18:17] <VoxelHead> pigorcket: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1532 [18:18] <DiskDaemon> techno156: This might help to explain why http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=665230
#1533 [18:18] <pigorcket> AuBot: I have already been through that and apparently my drivers are updated
#1534 [18:18] <techno156> What part of bot...
#1535 [18:18] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: AuBot is a bot - please don't argue with it
#1536 [18:18] <pigorcket> >.>
#1537 [18:18] <pigorcket> did not read that name hehe
#1538 [18:18] <techno156> Ok
#1539 [18:19] <techno156> :)
#1540 [18:19] <DiskDaemon> "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode." and "This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers." from the error report, seems to describe the issue quite clearly.
#1541 [18:20] <techno156> pigorcket, Check the website of the makers of the video cards for the updates
#1542 [18:20] <techno156> I have never heard of a bot use another bot :D
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#1544 [18:20] <itzmjauz> techno156: Botception
#1545 [18:20] <jonjo> help me update my server
#1546 [18:20] <jonjo> to 1.4
#1547 [18:20] <pigorcket> techno156: disk agrees that I'm all updated
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#1549 [18:21] <techno156> jonjo, can't help you with that, i'm afraidf
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#1551 [18:21] <pigorcket> techno156: and minecraft did run with all this hardware I'm using, so it's very unclear why minecraft won't run now
#1552 [18:21] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: I haven't seen a dxdiag report from that that shows that you're using anything more recent than version 6 video card drivers yet
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#1554 [18:21] <techno156> pigorcket, did you upgrade mc?
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#1557 [18:21] <pigorcket> yes
#1558 [18:21] <pigorcket> i have force updated
#1559 [18:21] <DiskDaemon> Note: version 6 video card drivers are from the year 2006
#1560 [18:22] <pigorcket> ok
#1561 [18:22] <pigorcket> I think those are the latest I can get with my hardware though, right?
#1562 [18:22] <pigorcket> 6.14.0010.4926
#1563 [18:22] <techno156> As I said, check with the company that made your video card's website
#1564 [18:22] <pigorcket> yeah, intel
#1565 [18:22] <techno156> pigorcket: ^
#1566 [18:22] <techno156> or the company that made your computer
#1567 [18:22] <pigorcket> wat
#1568 [18:23] <Lutzee> techno156: he is on the latest drivers, i have checked
#1569 [18:23] <techno156> ok
#1570 [18:24] <DiskDaemon> It could also be said that pigorcket's computer is below the minimum Minecraft system specifications http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
#1571 [18:24] <techno156> pigorcket, did you get 1.4.2?
#1572 [18:24] <pigorcket> yeah
#1573 [18:24] <pigorcket> this was a problem before the update too
#1574 [18:25] <pigorcket> i played in last week on the same hardware, so my system has the right specs
#1575 [18:25] <pigorcket> i dont think anyone sneaks in and stole my mobo or anything
#1576 [18:25] <pigorcket> sneaked*
#1577 [18:26] <DiskDaemon> pigorcket: You could always reinstal your operating system and go back to how things were before
#1578 [18:26] <pigorcket> because reformatting is always fun
#1579 [18:26] <pigorcket> maybe...
#1580 [18:26] <pigorcket> right now I'm trying all options before I reformat
#1581 [18:27] <DiskDaemon> Or, you could return to a backup. No backup? Reinstall and get things working, then make a backup
#1582 [18:27] <pigorcket> ok
#1583 [18:28] <pigorcket> reformatting it is...
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#1585 [18:29] <jcbronco> why does my server join always say server timed out
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#1589 [18:37] <techkid6> Found a nice little crash bug when I tried making a world with sand and signs --> http://pastebin.com/gjFp4tsJ
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#1591 [18:39] <DiskDaemon> techkid6: Please come back when you aren't using a modded version of the game
#1592 [18:40] <Lutzee> techkid6: you probably created like 8million enties in a second, the game cannot handle that
#1593 [18:40] <techkid6> Fine, I'll uninstall TMI, then come back, and probably so Lut
#1594 [18:40] <techkid6> I destroyed a sign... and yea
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#1596 [18:41] <techkid6> yea, that is it Lutz :) Thanks :)
#1597 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> akq is the BlockSign class which it spending a lot of time looping through, so that would be it
#1598 [18:42] <techkid6> Ok :) Thanks
#1599 [18:42] <techkid6> Next time I will try it as just sand and see if i can get some fun
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#1606 [19:01] <tarrasictommy> We were trying to get on Minecraft full screen mode, but when we tried to get on the screen turned completely black. Now we can't get on Minecraft anymore because it is stuck in full screen mode and our old computer can't handle it. How can we make it go back to the regular size?
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#1608 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> tarrasictommy: remove your options.txt file
#1609 [19:02] <tarrasictommy> Can you explain how to do that?
#1610 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> sure. What type of computer are you using? (Windows? Mac? Linux? Other?)
#1611 [19:03] <tarrasictommy> Dell
#1612 [19:03] <tarrasictommy> Windows
#1613 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> all right
#1614 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> ??> tarrasictommy win/.minecraft
#1615 [19:03] <VoxelHead> tarrasictommy: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
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#1617 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> tarrasictommy: follow VoxelHead's directions, and you will see a file called 'options' or 'options.txt'. delete it.
#1618 [19:04] <thirzina> Hi, I have a friend who can not mine or pick things up. never has been able to since he downloaded Minecraft
#1619 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> Once you have done so, Minecraft's settings should revert to default, but your save file will not be affected.
#1620 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> thirzina dontclick
#1621 [19:05] <VoxelHead> thirzina: (dontclick) You will have better luck holding down the mouse button. Clicking is for instant interactions like placing blocks and flipping switches. To mine, chop wood, or dig; hold down the mouse button.
#1622 [19:05] <DiskDaemon> thirzina: That can occur if you're playing in Survival mode.
#1623 [19:05] <thirzina> no, he's playing in creative
#1624 [19:05] <thirzina> sorry should say, can't mine
#1625 [19:05] <thirzina> can pick things up
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#1627 [19:06] <Lutzee> creative mode does not drop the blocks when you break them
#1628 [19:07] <thirzina> in creative mode, he can't break blocks at all... in survival mode, same thing... with tool or hand, there's just nothing happening
#1629 [19:07] <tarrasictommy> Thank you to DopeGhoti for the assistance
#1630 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> Could that be related to adventure mode?
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#1632 [19:08] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Adventure
#1633 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> tarrasictommy: my pleasure.
#1634 [19:08] <emperorofdiscord> i went to donwload minecraft for windows but it says it cant connect
#1635 [19:08] <emperorofdiscord> how do i fix this
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#1637 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> emperorofdiscord: There are at least 6 possible reasons with different solutions for each one
#1638 [19:09] <emperorofdiscord> i have a windows computer
#1639 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> emperorofdiscord: First, can we please see a screenshot for when the problem occurs?
#1640 [19:09] <emperorofdiscord> im bad with computers
#1641 [19:10] <emperorofdiscord> it wont connect in the starting java script
#1642 [19:10] <emperorofdiscord> the login thingy
#1643 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> there can be some clues as to why, from how the launcher looks. A screenshot can help us to rule out half of the potential causes
#1644 [19:11] <emperorofdiscord> idk how to scereen shot sorry
#1645 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#1646 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> Note to self: learn how PSR works.
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#1648 [19:12] <Assembler1> I have an update problem.
#1649 [19:12] <DiskDaemon> DopeGhoti: It's nice, but the main trouble is in getting people to upload the resulting file
#1650 [19:13] <Assembler1> i know
#1651 [19:13] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: What sort of update problem?
#1652 [19:14] <thirzina> DiskDaemon: he's holding down the mouse button, and we've tried both survival and creative modes - still can't break blocks. Should we re download the game?
#1653 [19:14] <emperorofdiscord> how do i paste it in chat
#1654 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> thirzina: You can try to reinstall it, yes
#1655 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> ??> thirzina win/reinst
#1656 [19:14] <VoxelHead> thirzina: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1657 [19:14] <Assembler1> I have to downgrade to play on all my servers that i like to play on
#1658 [19:14] <VoxelHead> thirzina: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1659 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> emperorofdiscord: Upload the image to imgur.com or some other image hosting service
#1660 [19:15] <thirzina> Voxelhead, he has a Mac, could that be a prob?
#1661 [19:15] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: Minecraft updated from 1.3.2 to 1.4.2 yesterday - it's going to take some time for servers to update
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#1663 [19:15] <DiskDaemon> ??> thirzina mac/reinst
#1664 [19:15] <VoxelHead> thirzina: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1665 [19:15] <VoxelHead> thirzina: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1666 [19:16] <Assembler1> i know, but my multiplayer servers don't run on that, is there anyway to downgrade?
#1667 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion
#1668 [19:17] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
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#1670 [19:17] <thirzina> voxelhead thanks so much for the advice
#1671 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#1675 [19:21] <Assembler1> The website to get back to 1.3.2 isn't working
#1676 [19:21] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: Why not?
#1677 [19:21] <Lutzee> Oh wait
#1678 [19:21] <Lutzee> mcnostalgia isn't updated
#1679 [19:22] <DiskDaemon> "[TOOL] MCNOSTALGIA 2.1.2 NOW WORKS WITH 1.4.2!"
#1680 [19:22] <Lutzee> assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar
#1681 [19:22] <Lutzee> ahh
#1682 [19:22] <DiskDaemon> I see 1.4.2 there
#1683 [19:22] <Lutzee> even so direct link
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#1685 [19:23] <DiskDaemon> Lutzee: Please don't do that - Mojang don't link to their old versions so please don't step on their toes in that regard. We respect them too much to do otherwise
#1686 [19:23] <DiskDaemon> Lutzee: When we hear from Mojang that it's okay to link to things such as that, then we'll be happy to do so. Not before then though, please.
#1687 [19:24] <Lutzee> hmm what about linking to here http://www.mojang.com/2012/08/cobalt-v107a-and-minecraft-1-3-2/ same file, just shown as the prerelease
#1688 [19:25] <Assembler1> All i want to know, is if i can get back to 1.3.2
#1689 [19:25] <Assembler1> and how
#1690 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> Lutzee: No thanks - I would rather to be granted permission from Mojang before doing that
#1691 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: Use MC Nostalgia which lets you go back to any older version, including 1.3.2
#1692 [19:26] <Assembler1> i know, but it doesn't work
#1693 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: Would you like for me to download the latest version of MC Nostalgia to separately confirm whether it works or not?
#1694 [19:27] <Assembler1> please(yes)
#1695 [19:28] * Gone_Ralex is now known as Lord_Ralex
#1696 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: downloading
#1697 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: Unpacking
#1698 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: Waiting for my downloads folder to stop updating (a cleanout is long overdue)
#1699 [19:31] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: Running - and it seems that I need to install Python
#1700 [19:32] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: Downloading python from http://www.python.org/download/
#1701 [19:32] <techno156> DiskDaemon, that sounds like an install log :D
#1702 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: Installing python
#1703 [19:35] <Assembler1> i have the MC Nostagia downloaded, but it won't set it back to the desired version
#1704 [19:36] <skyboy> techno156: DiskDaemon is an install log
#1705 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> Oh hang on, I didn't need to install Python - I weas attempting to run the .exe file directly from the zip. Dumb me. Extract the .zip instead and then run the .exe file.
#1706 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> Hey - it works.
#1707 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> Downgrade option number 117 is for version 1.3.2
#1708 [19:37] <techno156> skyboy, I thought a DiskDaemon was something you use to format your hard drive...
#1709 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> Yay - all successful.
#1710 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> Now to blast 1.3.2 out of the water by forcing an update up to 1.4.2 again
#1711 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> So apart from my dumb mistake of trying to run the .exe file directly from the .zip - all works well.
#1712 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> Tip: extract the contents of a .zip file before working with it
#1713 [19:39] <DiskDaemon> And I now have Python installed too. I might be encouraged to learn more about that programming language now
#1714 [19:39] <skyboy> you may have had it installed already
#1715 [19:40] <skyboy> i found python on my C: drive in a hidden folder
#1716 [19:40] <itzmjauz> DiskDaemon: Python \o/
#1717 [19:40] <skyboy> i was congratulated for finding it
#1718 [19:40] <skyboy> windows is weird.
#1719 [19:40] <Assembler1> no, it didn't work
#1720 [19:40] <itzmjauz> True that
#1721 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: What information can provide that might help us to help you. More-so than "it didn't work"
#1722 [19:43] <Assembler1> It installed perfectly, but when i checked my minecraft, it was unchangeed version wise
#1723 [19:44] * JTR|Away is now known as JTR
#1724 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: Then your setup must be loading Minecraft from something other than the minecraft.jar file from its standard default location
#1725 [19:44] * Corey_ [Corey_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1726 [19:45] <Corey_> No, we can not help you.
#1727 [19:45] <Assembler1> its a minecraft.exe file
#1728 [19:45] <Corey_> We can not help you
#1729 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> Assembler1: That .exe file is the launcher, which when you log in launches the game from minecraft.jar
#1730 [19:45] * DiskDaemon kicked Corey_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: orey_ :Please come back when you are feeling better)
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#1733 [19:46] <Hare_o_brien> ugh u guys dont know anything bout tekkit to help me with plz?
#1734 [19:47] * Timmy [Timmy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1735 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> Hare_o_brien: Yes - you get tekkit help from http://www.technicpack.net/faq/ and info on their IRC channel too
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#1737 [19:47] <Timmy> Hello.
#1738 [19:47] <Hare_o_brien> yeah but everything ive done doesnt work
#1739 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> Timmy: Hello Corey
#1740 [19:47] * Timmy is now known as Guest25387
#1741 [19:47] <Hare_o_brien> even the FAQs
#1742 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> Hare_o_brien: We do not help with mods here
#1743 [19:47] <Lutzee> ??> Hare_o_brien mods
#1744 [19:47] <Guest25387> HAHA you're smart.
#1745 [19:47] <VoxelHead> Hare_o_brien: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1746 [19:47] <VoxelHead> Hare_o_brien: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1747 [19:47] <Guest25387> Disk, you are a genius.
#1748 [19:48] <Guest25387> I forgot it showed my IP. XD
#1749 [19:48] <Hare_o_brien> its not mod support though
#1750 [19:48] <Hare_o_brien> fine...
#1751 [19:48] <Hare_o_brien> fine...
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#1753 [19:49] <Assembler1> thei use minecraft for windows
#1754 [19:50] <Guest25387> Does Youtube have a webchat room?
#1755 [19:50] <Guest25387> just curious..
#1756 [19:50] <Scott> No
#1757 [19:50] <Guest25387> :c
#1758 [19:50] <Scott> I believe they have a forum though.
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#1760 [19:57] <techkid6> So VoxelHead is the bot?? What is it made in?
#1761 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> python
#1762 [19:58] <oldtopman> tcl.
#1763 [19:58] <techkid6> Ah nice :)
#1764 [19:58] <DiskDaemon> perl?
#1765 [19:58] <oldtopman> It's eggdrop.
#1766 [19:58] <DiskDaemon> Ooh nice
#1767 [19:58] <techkid6> Right now I am working on one in Java (PircBot)
#1768 [19:58] <techkid6> It has full plugin support, and can even interact with other bots like Minecraft relays
#1769 [19:58] * Lutzee has heard PircBotX is better
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#1770 [19:59] <techkid6> I started in Pirc, and I am too lazy to switch xD
#1771 [19:59] <techkid6> Plus, I do not see anything that would would affect me
#1772 [19:59] <itzmjauz> Java......
#1773 [19:59] <itzmjauz> .........
#1774 [20:00] <techkid6> I know
#1775 [20:00] <chilij> I am wondering if I buy minecraft and then get a new PC can I transfer the account?
#1776 [20:00] <DiskDaemon> chilij: Yes - easily
#1777 [20:00] <techkid6> But I wanted to make it easy for people who are used to Minecraft things (such as Bukkit, Canary, etc)
#1778 [20:00] <itzmjauz> oh. It's not like a COD account
#1779 [20:00] <itzmjauz> techkid6: Java is much harder to understand than languages like python
#1780 [20:01] <itzmjauz> techkid6: And bukkit had python support I think.
#1781 [20:01] <techkid6> Had.
#1782 [20:01] <chilij> My PC is 6 years old and I can't tell if it can support it. How do I tell if I have the right stuff?
#1783 [20:01] <techkid6> Now you need a plugin for it
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#1785 [20:02] <Lutzee> ??> chilij win/dxdiag
#1786 [20:02] <itzmjauz> techkid6: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/python-plugin-loader/ , This makes bukkit awesome.
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#1788 [20:02] <Lutzee> We can probably tell you
#1789 [20:02] <techkid6> Ah
#1790 [20:02] <Lutzee> ??> chilij win/dxdiag
#1791 [20:02] <itzmjauz> techkid6: https://github.com/NJAldwin/canary And canary is written in Python.
#1792 [20:02] * Lutzee nudges vox
#1792 [20:03] <techkid6> CanaryMod... that is a server mod
#1793 [20:03] <itzmjauz> techkid6: At least that one is in pytohn.
#1794 [20:03] <itzmjauz> techkid6: :P. ye.
#1795 [20:04] <techkid6> I meant the server mod by Shadow386 at #canary, not a server monitor in Py
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#1797 [20:04] <VoxelHead> chilij: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1798 [20:04] <VoxelHead> chilij: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1799 [20:04] <VoxelHead> chilij: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1800 [20:04] <itzmjauz> techkid6: Yeah, but IT is made in python.
#1801 [20:04] <Lutzee> >.>
#1802 [20:04] <VoxelHead> chilij: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1803 [20:04] <Lutzee> well thanks vox
#1804 [20:04] * techkid6 facepalms
#1804 [20:04] <itzmjauz> techkid6: It's slightly different ._.!
#1805 [20:04] <itzmjauz> techkid6: slightly - > completely.... but so what :D!
#1806 [20:05] <techkid6> :D
#1807 [20:05] <Shadow386> itzmjauz, no, he means http://github.com/FallenMoonNetwork/CanaryMod
#1808 [20:05] <Shadow386> That's in java, not python
#1809 [20:05] <itzmjauz> Shadow386: i know.
#1810 [20:05] <techkid6> Oh god he IS here! D:
#1811 [20:05] <techkid6> :D*
#1812 [20:05] <Shadow386> I'm always everywhere
#1813 [20:05] <techkid6> REALLY! :O
#1814 [20:06] <itzmjauz> Just like Ceilingcat
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#1816 [20:06] <techkid6> :O
#1817 [20:06] <itzmjauz> Ceilincat always watches you.
#1818 [20:07] <itzmjauz> :/
#1819 [20:07] <itzmjauz> http://dggpw.klappe.nu/archive/Posters/Ceiling%20Cat.jpg
#1820 [20:07] <Etera> I accidentally upgraded my minecraft, and now I can't log onto my craftbukkit server. Is there anyway to undo this?
#1821 [20:07] <itzmjauz> It's on of the rules of the itnernet
#1822 [20:07] <itzmjauz> Downgrade it.
#1823 [20:07] <Lutzee> ??> Etera oldversion
#1824 [20:07] <VoxelHead> Etera: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#1825 [20:07] <techkid6> MCNostalgia
#1826 [20:07] <techkid6> Ah, bots :D
#1827 [20:08] <itzmjauz> techkid6: I use technicpack for version management =0
#1828 [20:08] <itzmjauz> techkid6: UseD*
#1829 [20:08] <itzmjauz> techkid6: Worked pretty wel, only the launcher itself fails
#1830 [20:08] <techkid6> I use Digiex :D
#1831 [20:08] <techkid6> I hate Technic Launcher
#1832 [20:08] <itzmjauz> I've got backups of everything anyway.
#1833 [20:08] <Etera> Any idea how long craftbukkit usually takes to release new updates?
#1834 [20:08] <itzmjauz> Over 9000 years. Everyone knows that
#1835 [20:09] <Etera> I am pretty new to minecraft and didn't even think to back up the program
#1836 [20:09] <itzmjauz> You don;t have to. Older versions are found easily.
#1837 [20:09] <Etera> so where do i find an older version of minecraft?
#1838 [20:09] <techkid6> Generally I have seen anything from a single afternoon... to a few months
#1839 [20:09] <oldtopman> Etera: See what VoxelHead said.
#1840 [20:09] <itzmjauz> And since there are so many people wanting to downgrade, there are a dozen of tools for that now.
#1841 [20:09] <techkid6> ??> Etera oldversion
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#1843 [20:09] <VoxelHead> Etera: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#1844 [20:10] <DiskDaemon> MCNostalgia gives you access to every single older version, excelt I think for the very first indev one from right at the beginning
#1845 [20:10] <techkid6> But you can get that with Digiex
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#1847 [20:10] <Etera> ahh, ok.
#1848 [20:10] <itzmjauz> Legal.
#1849 [20:11] <Assembler1_> My minecraft problem is that i updated, but i want to go back to 1.3.2
#1850 [20:11] <itzmjauz> Assembler1_: I've seen multiple people saying that today.
#1851 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, even indev can be done by mcnostalgia, version 2-23-10
#1852 [20:11] <Shadow|AFK> itzmjauz, happens every update
#1853 [20:11] <Lutzee> Assembler1_: we have already pointed you in the right direction
#1854 [20:11] <techkid6> How about survivaltest?
#1855 [20:11] <Assembler1_> do you know how to solve my problem?
#1856 [20:11] <itzmjauz> Shadow|AFK: I guessed right then.
#1857 [20:12] <itzmjauz> I watermeloned the razorblade.
#1858 [20:12] <itzmjauz> We just need to quintuple the piles of bodies
#1859 [20:12] <itzmjauz> Bring chicken.
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#1862 [20:13] <Assembler1_> ?
#1863 [20:13] <bigcjc> my friend needs assistance with creating a server
#1864 [20:14] <itzmjauz> Okay, That's why we are here
#1865 [20:14] <bigcjc> he doesnt remember how to set it up could you state the basics
#1866 [20:14] <Shadow|AFK> Magic
#1867 [20:14] <itzmjauz> bigcjc: You got a client and a server, both need to be the same versions.
#1868 [20:15] <DiskDaemon> Would this help? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1869 [20:15] <itzmjauz> DiskDaemon: I'm set free
#1870 [20:15] <DiskDaemon> itzmjauz: I'm var noid
#1871 [20:16] <techkid6> I have no friends and a failed Java plugin loader
#1872 [20:16] <techkid6> :D
#1873 [20:16] <chilij> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 10/25/2012, 20:06:41 Machine name: DBWQ5YB1 Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.120821-1629) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: MP061 BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Versi
#1874 [20:16] <techkid6> Pastebin.com
#1875 [20:16] <itzmjauz> techkid6: Aww :/ I'll always be there for you.
#1876 [20:16] <techkid6> itzmjauz: :D
#1877 [20:16] <itzmjauz> techkid6: A programmer is still a programmer, every programmer is my friend.
#1878 [20:17] <Shadow|AFK> chilij, http://pastebin.com for all of your errors then post the link here
#1879 [20:17] <chilij> OK- I feel like a dinosaur here
#1880 [20:17] <itzmjauz> also
#1881 [20:17] <Shadow|AFK> itzmjauz, I'm not your friend, buddy
#1882 [20:17] <itzmjauz> Shadow|AFK: I'm not your buddy, buddy
#1883 [20:17] <techkid6> I have learned one thing over the years though...
#1884 [20:17] <Shadow|AFK> I'm not your buddy, pal
#1885 [20:17] <techkid6> I just have to take ALL my problems, and PUSH them SOMEWHERE ELSE! :D
#1886 [20:17] <itzmjauz> Shadow|AFK: I'm not your pal, mate
#1887 [20:18] <Shadow|AFK> I'm not your mate, comrade
#1888 [20:18] <itzmjauz> techkid6: Git push
#1889 [20:18] <techkid6> EXACTLY!
#1890 [20:18] <itzmjauz> I'm not your comrade, son
#1891 [20:18] <Shadow|AFK> I'm not your son, dad
#1892 [20:18] <techkid6> Then some genius sees your code, forks it, and fixes it
#1893 [20:18] <itzmjauz> I'm not your son, santa
#1894 [20:18] <techkid6> SANTA? :O
#1895 [20:18] <oldtopman> *aherm*
#1896 [20:18] <Shadow|AFK> I'm not santa, easter bunny
#1897 [20:18] * Shadow|AFK shuts it
#1897 [20:18] * itzmjauz farts.
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#1898 [20:18] <techkid6> D:
#1899 [20:18] <oldtopman> Can we keep it on-topic, especially since we have people in here who are trying to get help>
#1900 [20:19] <itzmjauz> But but but....
#1901 [20:19] <Shadow|AFK> I'm waiting for chilij to post his error on pastebin
#1902 [20:19] <techkid6> Butt... butt... butt...
#1903 [20:19] <itzmjauz> Q_q okay.
#1904 [20:19] <chilij> Shadow- I have like 800 lines of stuff- is that what you think I need to post?
#1905 [20:19] <techkid6> Yes
#1906 [20:19] <slick> HELP!, game installed and playing but cannot get resources, cant break trees or anything :(
#1907 [20:19] <oldtopman> Yes.
#1908 [20:19] <itzmjauz> chilij: Sure, i'll conjure up my time.
#1909 [20:19] <techkid6> That is an error log :D
#1910 [20:19] <chilij> Oh Joy
#1911 [20:19] <oldtopman> slick: Hold down the button.
#1912 [20:19] <Shadow|AFK> You should copy and paste your error log into pastebin.com and submit it, then link us to your paste
#1913 [20:19] <itzmjauz> SPRUNGE IT!
#1914 [20:20] <techkid6> it should be in %appdata%\.minecraft\crash-reports I think
#1915 [20:20] <itzmjauz> cat file | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
#1916 [20:20] <itzmjauz> assuming you are on linux
#1917 [20:20] <oldtopman> itzmjauz: He's not.
#1918 [20:21] <itzmjauz> oldtopman: Rectangular anti discombulation rod
#1919 [20:21] <techkid6> D:
#1920 [20:21] <slick> CAN anyone explain why when i hit trees and other resources, they do not break up, nothing happens
#1921 [20:21] <Lutzee> ??> chilij pastebin
#1922 [20:21] <VoxelHead> chilij: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1923 [20:21] <techkid6> He is running Win XP Professional
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#1925 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> slick: You are in adventure mode?
#1926 [20:21] <slick> demo
#1927 [20:22] <itzmjauz> slick: That's normal
#1928 [20:22] <slick> so you cant gain resources or build in demo ?
#1929 [20:22] <Lutzee> After 5 minecraft days the demo ends and you can only explore the world
#1930 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> You can start a new demo world though
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#1932 [20:22] <slick> this is my first time, just created a new account
#1933 [20:22] <chilij> Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CC&SUBSYS_01CD1028&REV_01\3&61AAA01&0&EF Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 14:45:35, 30208 bytes Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 14:45:36, 143872 bytes Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.5512
#1934 [20:22] <itzmjauz> chilij: Holy crap ?
#1935 [20:22] <Shadow|AFK> chilij, I said in http://pastebin.com
#1936 [20:22] <Shadow|AFK> NOT here
#1937 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> ??> chilij pastebin
#1938 [20:22] <VoxelHead> chilij: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1940 [20:23] <chilij> sorry
#1941 [20:23] <itzmjauz> chilij: Xd I do that too sometimes
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#1943 [20:23] <chilij> http://pastebin.com/0vQs5dAq
#1944 [20:24] <itzmjauz> itzmjauz: Also detached for a sec, I gotta boot my arch
#1945 [20:24] <techkid6> I never had... only once
#1946 [20:24] <techkid6> Wait,,, what is that from
#1947 [20:25] <itzmjauz> techkid6: System data.
#1948 [20:25] <itzmjauz> techkid6: Ask the bot.
#1949 [20:25] <itzmjauz> techkid6: Ask the bot.
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#1951 [20:25] <itzmjauz> Well, BRB
#1952 [20:25] * Corin|Away is now known as Corin
#1953 [20:25] <techkid6> Ah ok
#1954 [20:26] <Lutzee> chilij: install these drivers
#1955 [20:26] <Lutzee> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/winxp-306.81-whql-driver-uk.html
#1956 [20:26] <Lutzee> oh wait
#1957 [20:27] <Lutzee> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/geforce_notebook_winxp_179.48_beta_uk.html this one
#1958 [20:27] <Lutzee> Nvidia website derping out
#1959 [20:28] <Shadow|AFK> Yay my laptop screen should be here tomorrow
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#1961 [20:28] <techkid6> Sweet :D
#1962 [20:29] <Assembler1> Hello, i have been told the same thing, but nothing helps my problem
#1963 [20:29] <techkid6> Right now I am working on V2 of my Bot... and I HATE javadocs D:
#1964 [20:31] <Assembler1> My problem is that i can't go back to my 1.3.2 version of minecraft
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#1967 [20:31] <Shadow|AFK> ??> Assembler1 oldversion
#1968 [20:31] <VoxelHead> Assembler1: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#1969 [20:32] <Assembler1> I know, it installed, but nothing happened
#1970 [20:32] <techkid6> Did you run it...
#1971 [20:32] <Shadow|AFK> ^
#1972 [20:32] <Assembler1> Yes, i clicked run
#1973 [20:33] <techkid6> And did a command prompt window pop up>
#1974 [20:33] <Assembler1> no
#1975 [20:33] <Shadow|AFK> Run as administrator?
#1976 [20:33] <Assembler1> i don't know how to do that. i'm not good with computers
#1977 [20:34] <Shadow|AFK> right click, find the option that says run as administrator
#1978 [20:34] <techkid6> Right click on the file... > Run as Administrator
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#1981 [20:36] <Assembler1> ok, but its not even on my computer, it installed and its not there, i don't know why this is happening
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#1983 [20:36] <joeycavazos> minecraft wont let me log into my account
#1984 [20:37] <techkid6> save it... not run
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#1986 [20:38] <joeycavazos> minecraft wont let me log in no matter what i do
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#1988 [20:39] <itzmjauz> Ugh, that took longer than expected :p
#1989 [20:39] <ImMe> Anyone know why when mineCraft run in window mode fine, but when put into fullscreen it freezes the game and if anyone knows how to get it out of fullscreen. Without logging into the game cause its auto set to fullscreen and crashs? o.o
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#1991 [20:40] <Lutzee> ImMe: you need to delete the options.txt file
#1992 [20:40] <Lutzee> that can be found here :
#1993 [20:40] <Lutzee> ?? win/.minecraft
#1994 [20:40] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1995 [20:42] <ImMe> Ok I'll try both thankyou for the info I pry it works. I just bought it like a hour ago and messed it up with full screen >.<
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#1997 [20:43] <itzmjauz> :D voxelhead is a bot mate.
#1998 [20:43] <ImMe> Really o.o
#1999 [20:43] <ImMe> magic >.>
#2000 [20:44] <itzmjauz> It's lovely :D
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#2003 [20:46] <itzmjauz> Did you guys know that minecraft can be installed with yaourt :D!?
#2004 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> Thank you but no
#2005 [20:47] <itzmjauz> Even techniclauncher is in it.
#2006 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> We do not deal with mods here
#2007 [20:47] <itzmjauz> Minecraft-server is in it =0?
#2008 [20:48] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft server is easily downloaded from minecraft.net/download
#2009 [20:48] <itzmjauz> Yeah, But then you would have to run browse to it, or guess the link
#2010 [20:48] <itzmjauz> without the run in there
#2011 [20:48] <DiskDaemon> itzmjauz: I don't want what you're selling
#2012 [20:49] <itzmjauz> DiskDaemon: Melons, lots of melons
#2013 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> Grr -v they're shiny and nice looking, but they do bugger all for your hunger
#2014 [20:49] <itzmjauz> :/
#2015 [20:50] <ImMe> ok so when I get to the folder that has bin resources and saves and so on I delete the one that says options?
#2016 [20:53] <Lutzee> ImMe: yes
#2017 [20:53] <ImMe> Omg thank you sooo much :D I love you
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#2019 [20:54] <Professor-Colress> Hello guys
#2020 [20:54] <itzmjauz> We all love you
#2021 [20:54] <itzmjauz> Ohai
#2022 [20:55] <ImMe> I may have failed my job interview but at lest I have mine craft
#2023 [20:55] <itzmjauz> ImMe: HELL YEAH.
#2024 [20:55] <itzmjauz> ImMe: You sir, Won't be dissapointed.
#2025 [20:56] <ImMe> Well thankyou I'm going to go play now :D
#2026 [20:56] <itzmjauz> ImMe: Have fun, don't get blown up by a ninja creeper.
#2027 [20:57] <ImMe> No promises there
#2028 [20:57] <itzmjauz> :P
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#2033 [21:02] <papaganoush> silly question: is there a way to turn bonus chest on for SMP?
#2034 [21:02] <papaganoush> silly question: is there a way to turn bonus chest on for SMP?
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#2036 [21:03] <itzmjauz> papaganoush: Modding ?
#2037 [21:04] <papaganoush> plain vanilla
#2038 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> Could you generate a world in singleplayer, then transfer that world over to multiplayer?
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#2040 [21:05] <papaganoush> I thought I could just add bonus-chest: on to the server.properties
#2041 [21:05] <papaganoush> I was wrong
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#2043 [21:05] <Marc_IRL> Hey, random question. If you're on a server in offline mode, and your account has been migrated, apparently it shows your email over your head? Is this viewable to just you, or anyone?
#2044 [21:06] <Lutzee> Um, if you have authed with minecraft.net but log in to an offline server it might
#2045 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> I haven't heard of that before, but it could do with some testing
#2046 [21:06] <Lutzee> But i haven't got a migrated account
#2047 [21:06] <Wug> from what I've heard its just you though I have no first hand experience.
#2048 [21:06] <Wug> its worth looking into.
#2049 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> I have a migrated - I'll try some offline testing
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#2054 [21:10] <jd94> why wont minecraft_server.exe download on my computer
#2055 [21:10] <Wug> jd94: if you're using internet explorer, try a different browser
#2056 [21:11] <jd94> ok that worked thanks
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#2064 [21:15] <maria__> Hi
#2065 [21:16] <Lutzee> hey
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#2068 [21:17] <maria__> HI, I bought a game card for my son at best buy, and we can downloadad the exe file, and I run it. It seems to install, but when a box opens and asks for log in, it says that the game has not been downloaded. I had turn off the firewall and real time scanning, so I know is not that, plus the computer is top of the line with wondows 7. Is driving me insane!!!!!!!!!
#2069 [21:17] * JTR is now known as JTR|Away
#2070 [21:17] <Wug> can you login on the website
#2071 [21:18] <maria__> yes I can log in to the website but the game won;t install!
#2072 [21:18] <Wug> can you try playing from the website?
#2073 [21:18] <Lutzee> http://minecraft.net/play
#2074 [21:18] <maria__> I am not in his computer, I can ask him to try.
#2075 [21:18] <maria__> However, don;t the application need to be install first???
#2076 [21:18] <Wug> ok.
#2077 [21:19] <Wug> nope
#2078 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> Hrm - I had a connection lost issue when trying to connect to a local server, but removing Java from the firewall and having the server recreate new Java settings in the firewall has fixed that
#2079 [21:19] <maria__> he is checking....
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#2082 [21:24] <maria_> i am having problems with teh chat too!!!!
#2083 [21:25] <maria_> My q is downloaded the application, have game ccard from best buy. The application will not run ....
#2084 [21:25] <Lutzee> Occasionally the chats connection can time out, web clients tend not to be that stable
#2085 [21:25] <Lutzee> Did your son manage to get it running in the browser/
#2086 [21:25] <Lutzee> #?
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#2088 [21:26] <Wug> maria_: have you redeemed the game card?
#2089 [21:26] <maria_> yes
#2090 [21:26] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Sorry, I don't have two premium accounts with which to test the offline server username/email being visible nature of things
#2091 [21:26] <maria_> well I went through the Mojang created the account and entered the code. It said card is ok.
#2092 [21:26] <Wug> DiskDaemon: >offline mode<
#2093 [21:26] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: What is it that you need? I can make whatever.
#2094 [21:26] <Wug> you dont need 2 premium accounts
#2095 [21:27] <maria_> Do I need to do more than that? After it said was of, I click on games - minecraft
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#2097 [21:27] <Wug> maria_: first, check if it works from the website.
#2098 [21:27] <maria_> already did we can log in but cannot play
#2099 [21:28] <maria_> tahnks for helping me Wug
#2100 [21:28] <Lutzee> maria_: have your son go to http://minecraft.net/play
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#2103 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> When I try to connect a non-existant offline login to the server I get connection lost - time to try the firewall thing on that other machine now
#2104 [21:29] <maria_> i will, is there anything else you can suggest? I was able to download the aplplication, and I turn off the firewall so it would run, but nothing I have downloaded these types of games before, and never had a problem ...
#2105 [21:30] <techno156> maria_, does your computer have enough free space to run?
#2106 [21:30] <Wug> maria_: try that, and if it doesn't work, hop onto the computer in question and come back here to ask for help again
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#2108 [21:30] * DiskDaemon starts ranting "Come on computer! Do what I want not what I tell you..."
#2108 [21:30] <Wug> if it turns out to be an account issue, you'll probably have to contact mojang about it with their contact form
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#2112 [21:33] <Marc_IRL> Did someone say account issue?
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#2114 [21:33] <Marc_IRL> Well, she left
#2115 [21:33] <Marc_IRL> Okay, back to trolling Nodus by stealing all of their accounts back
#2116 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: I can confirm that both my accounts show the username when using offline mode
#2117 [21:34] <Marc_IRL> the username, and not the email address? They're both migrated?
#2118 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> One is migrated, the other is a bad login using offline connect
#2119 [21:34] <Marc_IRL> Hrm. I want to know why this guy thought that his email was showing.
#2120 [21:35] <Marc_IRL> I guess I can just tell him it doesn't show
#2121 [21:35] <Lutzee> DiskDaemon: does it show any emails in the console?
#2122 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> A screenshot becomes valuable in such cases, so that you can be sure that he's talking about what you think
#2123 [21:35] <Wug> Marc_IRL: maria_ bought the game with a card
#2124 [21:35] <Wug> and seemed to be having trouble getting it to work, in an account-issue-y way
#2125 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Nope, usernames all 'round
#2126 [21:35] <Marc_IRL> Have seen a few issues with those, although I think it was due to the sorta complexities of the Mojang account system, versus the basic Minecraft accounts system.
#2127 [21:36] <Marc_IRL> Cool, thanks for testing
#2128 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> cheers
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#2131 [21:36] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: What is the current backdate for emails? 10th sounds like thinks have slowed down a bit
#2132 [21:37] <DiskDaemon> That's 15 days - which seems to be on par from what they were a few weeks ago
#2133 [21:37] <Marc_IRL> changed to 12th
#2134 [21:37] <Lutzee> Okay :)
#2135 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> 14 days :)
#2136 [21:38] <Marc_IRL> So, we don't have all of the temps full time anymore. But we're doing about twice as many emails as we're getting, so... that's good.
#2137 [21:38] <Lutzee> hehe skins just went down
#2138 [21:38] <Marc_IRL> So we should theoretically do two days for every one day of emails we get.
#2139 [21:38] <Lutzee> Okay, sounds good
#2140 [21:38] <Wug> Marc_IRL: what do you do with nodus' accounts
#2141 [21:38] <Marc_IRL> Having a team meeting in a few hours, I'm gonna see if I can inspire the troops
#2142 [21:38] <Wug> just reset the email address and password?
#2143 [21:38] <Marc_IRL> Yeah
#2144 [21:39] <Marc_IRL> Just had Kris add a few new features to my account tools. I can basically wipe an account of its info and reset it to the old email address.
#2145 [21:39] <Wug> neat
#2146 [21:39] <Marc_IRL> They were using migration... "exploits". Not really an exploit, though. Anyway, we beefed up security there too, which makes it more annoying to migrate (have to confirm with old email), but more secure.
#2147 [21:40] <Marc_IRL> And yeah, I've just been going between lurking and openly trolling Nodus all week. They're jumping at their own shadows, thinking I'm in their chat.
#2148 [21:40] <Wug> lol
#2149 [21:40] <Marc_IRL> Every once in a while, I'll tell them that a certain list of accounts is now mine. Keeps them on their toes.
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#2151 [21:40] <Wug> we should post their chat here
#2152 [21:40] * Stellarstead is now known as stellarstead
#2153 [21:40] <Wug> they'll get a massive surge of newbs.
#2154 [21:40] <Marc_IRL> I don't think they would get a big surge. Maybe a few would register.
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#2156 [21:41] <Marc_IRL> I might troll them during a livestream or something.
#2157 [21:41] <Wug> have notch tweet it
#2158 [21:41] <Marc_IRL> They're too small time for Notch, heh
#2159 [21:41] <Wug> the traffic will crash their website
#2160 [21:41] <Marc_IRL> This is basically just a fun hobby for me
#2161 [21:43] <Wug> do you have any way to collect metrics about authentication
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#2163 [21:43] <Wug> I suspect that groups like nodus work by simply using proxies to brute force dumb passwords over hundreds or thousands of known usernames
#2164 [21:44] <mib_35nuk5> Hi everyone. I just bought Minecraft so I'm new to all this. How long has it been since minecraft skins service is down? has that happened before? By googling it I found many forum posts reporting that it is down ->as usual<- Is that true?
#2165 [21:44] <Wug> collecting metrics about weird login attempts from multiple ips could help to devise ways to safeguard against this.
#2166 [21:44] <Wug> mib_35nuk5: some part of minecraft goes down like every week
#2167 [21:44] <Wug> it will be back in a few hours
#2168 [21:45] <Lutzee> mib_35nuk5: by the looks of it 10-15 minutes, the skins system is rather unstable atm, but it is being worked on
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#2170 [21:45] <Wug> Marc_IRL: do you use dns block lists to prevent login attempts from known malicious hosts
#2171 [21:45] <trollface10101> check my server pls
#2172 [21:45] <Wug> ;check trollface10101
#2173 [21:45] <WugBot> 100.43.117.161:25565 does not host a minecraft server.
#2174 [21:46] <mib_35nuk5> Then I suppose its time to go to sleep :P Thank you and good night everyone!
#2175 [21:46] <Wug> trollface10101: are you forwarded to the right internal ip?
#2176 [21:46] <Wug> or is it a classic server
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#2182 [21:47] <lonelyhornet> uh
#2183 [21:47] <trollface10101> if you mean is my ipv4 address correct then yes
#2184 [21:47] <david018> cant connect to minecraft.net with my Mojang account. any help?
#2185 [21:47] <Marc_IRL> I don't know what they use in terms of security. I do know that we have a too many failed logins error, though. And we'll be incorporating our security questions into our games, soon.
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#2187 [21:47] <lonelyhornet> hello?
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#2189 [21:47] <Wug> Marc_IRL: is the too many failed logins by username or by ip address
#2190 [21:47] <Marc_IRL> IP
#2191 [21:47] <lonelyhornet> Whenever i join servers, (1.4.2) and type i get "cannot send chat message" WTF?
#2192 [21:47] <trollface10101> my friend is on but he is glitching out
#2193 [21:48] <Wug> lonelyhornet: its a feature of the server
#2194 [21:48] <lonelyhornet> It was vanilla servers, 2 not bukkit
#2195 [21:48] <Wug> Marc_IRL: do you have a system for blocking ips that send a lot of failed logins
#2196 [21:48] <lonelyhornet> 2 vanilla servers*
#2197 [21:48] <Wug> maybe you should
#2198 [21:48] <Wug> maybe you should
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#2200 [21:48] <Marc_IRL> I dunno anything about net security, just some basics on account security
#2201 [21:48] <Wug> lonelyhornet: you're quite sure? I have not heard of anyone else with this problem.
#2202 [21:48] <david018> Marc_IRL, I cant connect to mc.net with my Mojang account, Know why?
#2203 [21:49] <lonelyhornet> i am 100% sure.
#2204 [21:49] <Marc_IRL> nope
#2205 [21:49] <david018> hmm
#2206 [21:49] <Marc_IRL> But are you able to give me any info at all on the problem you're having?
#2207 [21:49] <lonelyhornet> i just typed; "hi" into the server chat, and got cannot send chat message
#2208 [21:49] <trollface10101> found the wierdest glitch in the new update
#2209 [21:49] <Lutzee> trollface10101: what is that?
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#2211 [21:49] <david018> Marc, It says Username/password not Correct.
#2212 [21:50] <Wug> david018: you're logging in with your email right
#2213 [21:50] <david018> Yes
#2214 [21:50] <lonelyhornet> migrated account?
#2215 [21:50] <david018> No
#2216 [21:50] <lonelyhornet> ..
#2217 [21:50] <david018> Mae it on Mojang
#2218 [21:50] <lonelyhornet> http://i.imgur.com/J1bS8.png My problem.
#2219 [21:51] <Wug> lonelyhornet: how sure are you that its vanulla
#2220 [21:51] <lonelyhornet> i just typed "hi" into the chat and pressed enter, and got that message on that imgur link
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#2222 [21:51] <Wug> vanilla*
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#2224 [21:51] <lonelyhornet> I have spoken to the owner directly on skype, as it is a small community
#2225 [21:51] <lonelyhornet> i am 100% sure it is
#2226 [21:51] <lonelyhornet> and bukkit isnt updated to 1.4.2 anyways
#2227 [21:51] <oldtopman> lonelyhornet: Does it work in single player?
#2228 [21:51] <Marc_IRL> whats the username
#2229 [21:52] <lonelyhornet> my username?
#2230 [21:52] <trollface10101> my friend was above ground on my screen but he had to dig his way up because he was actually in the ground on his. when he dug out i didnt see any hole, but he was moving normally
#2231 [21:52] <lonelyhornet> yea it doesnt work in single player either
#2232 [21:52] <lonelyhornet> i get the same cannot send chat message
#2233 [21:52] <david018> Still getting the error message. Should i just wait a few hours?
#2234 [21:52] <Rid> I login and get to the player selection menu but it doesn't function. On a PC that meet req's & Java 7. Any ideas?
#2235 [21:53] <oldtopman> lonelyhornet: Go into options, "Chat Settings", then click the chat tab until it displays "Shown".
#2236 [21:53] <Marc_IRL> is david018 your username?
#2237 [21:53] <lonelyhornet> okay
#2238 [21:53] <david018> no
#2239 [21:53] <lonelyhornet> just cleaning my jar :P
#2240 [21:53] <lonelyhornet> mutliplayer settings*
#2241 [21:53] <lonelyhornet> Thank you
#2242 [21:54] <Lutzee> Wug: there does seem to be some code in vanilla that returns that string to the client
#2243 [21:54] <lonelyhornet> are you a mojang customer support?
#2244 [21:55] <lonelyhornet> well thank you, and good night. Thank you very much for your help.
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#2246 [21:55] <david018> Hmmm
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#2248 [21:56] <david018> Could it be a slow server? I still cant get on mc.net through my Mojang account
#2249 [21:56] * Lutzee just found the code for that, then noticed there was a fix >.>
#2249 [21:56] <Rid> I can play on my other PC (via browser) so must have a sys/software issue
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#2253 [22:00] <david018> Ok, I can log in on Mojang, But i can log on to mc.net with my Mojang account...
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#2255 [22:01] <david018> Anyone know why?
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#2257 [22:01] <Rod> bad video cards help
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#2259 [22:01] <Wug> :dx > Rod
#2260 [22:01] <WugBot> Rod: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2261 [22:01] <WugBot> Rod: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2262 [22:02] <Wug> david018: you're not doing something silly are you, like using a different email?
#2263 [22:02] <david018> No
#2264 [22:02] <david018> Same email, same password.
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#2266 [22:02] <Wug> the account does have minecraft right?
#2267 [22:02] <david018> Yes
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#2269 [22:03] <Marc_IRL> david, what's your username?
#2270 [22:03] <david018> used a card about 30 minutes ago
#2271 [22:03] <david018> Mits my emal...
#2272 [22:03] <david018> email*
#2273 [22:03] <Wug> Marc_IRL: is there a delay to cards or something
#2274 [22:04] <Marc_IRL> can someone please give me his username
#2275 [22:04] <david018> Why?
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#2277 [22:04] <Wug> david018: Marc_IRL is mojang stadd
#2278 [22:04] <Wug> staff*
#2279 [22:04] <Wug> and what would it matter anyway? you give it to everyone you play online with
#2280 [22:04] <Marc_IRL> usernames are public information anyway, anyone can see it by playing with you
#2281 [22:04] <Wug> its not like its private.
#2282 [22:05] <david018> username i beleive should be SirDj01843
#2283 [22:05] <david018> Was thinkin' about my email
#2284 [22:05] <Lutzee> Well the account is premium
#2285 [22:06] <david018> Should itry again?
#2286 [22:06] <Rod> http://pastebin.com/ADLN9zrm
#2287 [22:07] <Rod> what should i do now with bad video cards?
#2288 [22:08] <Lutzee> Rod: install this driver http://www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-uk
#2289 [22:08] <Lutzee> waht
#2290 [22:08] <Lutzee> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/nforce_vista_win7_32bit_15.49_uk.html
#2291 [22:08] <Lutzee> Sorry
#2292 [22:09] <david018> Tried again, didnt work.
#2293 [22:09] <Rod> after that what do i do?
#2294 [22:10] <Marc_IRL> One sec while I check. Try and fail too many times, you get locked out for a few hours.
#2295 [22:10] <Rod> ok.
#2296 [22:11] <david018> Could it be that i accidentaly put in the wrong email while signing up, and changed it right after?
#2297 [22:11] <Lutzee> rod after the drivers have installed try minecraft again
#2298 [22:11] <Rod> ok. its halfway done
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#2300 [22:12] <david018> D:
#2301 [22:13] <Marc_IRL> David, is your email d********5@a**.net?
#2302 [22:13] <david018> yes
#2303 [22:13] <Marc_IRL> you know, minus the asterisks
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#2305 [22:14] <Marc_IRL> have you done a password reset recently?
#2306 [22:14] <david018> yea. did it because i thought i may have messed it up
#2307 [22:15] <david018> Also did an email change (old habbit from using gmail)
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#2309 [22:16] <Marc_IRL> well, the password reset went to whatever email you have on file currently
#2310 [22:16] <Marc_IRL> And it should let you reset your password, then log in with that email and password, and then edit anything you want
#2311 [22:16] <david018> yes i know.
#2312 [22:16] <david018> i got the email and changed the password
#2313 [22:17] <Rod> thanks it works ^_^
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#2315 [22:17] <Lutzee> Thats great Rod have fun :)
#2316 [22:17] <Rod> your so amazing thank you very much
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#2319 [22:19] <Marc_IRL> And you're still getting an error message? Logging in with the email and new password?
#2320 [22:19] <jailee> I just put in a minecraft card and it wont let me log into the game launcher but i can on the website what do I need to do?it says login failed
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#2323 [22:19] <jailee> yes it didnt work
#2324 [22:19] <Lutzee> jailee: you are using your email to log into the launcher right?
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#2326 [22:20] <jailee> yes
#2327 [22:20] <Lutzee> If not you need to use your email not your minecraft name
#2328 [22:20] <Lutzee> Make sure both email and password are correct.
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#2330 [22:21] <jailee> I have tried email,I even reset my password to be sure
#2331 [22:21] <david018> Still got the message. Should i try another reset? it seems like jailee has the same problem...
#2332 [22:21] <jailee> is this a common prob?
#2333 [22:21] <david018> idk
#2334 [22:22] <Lutzee> Your two cases are slightly different
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#2336 [22:22] <david018> Marc: i'm gonna try another reset.
#2337 [22:22] <Marc_IRL> david, that should have worked, but if you have your transaction ID, you can just PM that to me, and I'll change the settings to whatever you'd like
#2338 [22:22] <jailee> still doesnt work
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#2341 [22:24] <jailee> now its starting
#2342 [22:25] <david018> Marc: its strange that i can log into Mojang, but not MC.net
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#2347 [22:29] <david018> Where would i find the transaction ID
#2348 [22:30] <Lutzee> david018: How did you purchase the game?
#2349 [22:31] <david018> Prepaid card
#2350 [22:31] <Lutzee> one like minecraft.net/prepaid ?
#2351 [22:32] <DiskDaemon> The code that is on that prepaid card is what you want then
#2352 [22:32] <david018> Yea, got it at walmart
#2353 [22:32] <Lutzee> Okay, click on Marcs name the press Private message, then write the code out in there to him
#2354 [22:32] <david018> For some reason i still cant log on to mc.net
#2355 [22:32] <david018> ok
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#2357 [22:33] <david018> there is no private message
#2358 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> Lutzee: He's using webchat
#2359 [22:33] <oldtopman> david018: Type in "/msg Marc_IRL <payment details here>"
#2360 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> without the double quotes
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#2362 [22:34] <Lutzee> I should have mentioned from the user list
#2363 [22:34] <Marc_IRL> huh, I've never looked up one of those. We'll see how this works, I guess!
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#2365 [22:35] <Lutzee> Ah it says PM
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#2367 [22:35] <Marc_IRL> well hey, prepaid ID lookup worked
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#2371 [22:46] <panda_> hey guys, if i play mc on browser how do i get it back to 1.3 if i accidentally updated it to 1.4
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#2374 [22:47] <Lutzee> 11 minutes? i was gone for like a minute O.o
#2375 [22:47] <panda_> hey guys, if i play mc on browser how do i get it back to 1.3 if i accidentally updated it to 1.4
#2376 [22:48] <oldtopman> ??> panda_ downgrade
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#2378 [22:48] <Lutzee> ??> panda_ oldversion
#2379 [22:48] <VoxelHead> panda_: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
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#2381 [22:49] <oldtopman> ah, that's it.
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#2385 [22:49] <Lutzee> Well, time to sleep i guess..
#2386 [22:49] <Lutzee> then figure out git + github tomorrow
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#2389 [22:52] <oldtopman> Lutzee: Poke me tomorrow, I can help ya :P
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#2394 [23:07] <techno156> There is this channel... The users on it require assistance, and plenty of it...
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#2398 [23:10] <EpicBoss> hello, i tried to mod minecraft but id did not work so i gave up. now the update came out and it fails every time i try to update it. how do i get it to update? i dont want the mod anymore.
#2399 [23:11] <EpicBoss> hello? is there anyone that can help me?
#2400 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> ??> EpicBoss win/reinst
#2401 [23:12] <VoxelHead> EpicBoss: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2402 [23:12] <VoxelHead> EpicBoss: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2403 [23:12] <EpicBoss> can you help me with trouble updating?
#2404 [23:13] <EpicBoss> im on a mac
#2405 [23:13] <DiskDaemon> ??> EpicBoss mac/reinst
#2406 [23:13] <VoxelHead> EpicBoss: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2407 [23:13] <VoxelHead> EpicBoss: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2408 [23:14] <Wug> EpicBoss: or try force updating
#2409 [23:15] <Wug> DiskDaemon: the two are generally equivalent, except that force updating is cross platform
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#2411 [23:15] <EpicBoss> dragging the bin to the trash seems to be working! it would error at %12 every time but its working now! thanks!
#2412 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> Ahh - I tend to dislike force updating when mods are involved, because it tends to leave other garbage in the .minecraft/ folder
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#2414 [23:18] <EpicBoss> AHHHH!!! i was checking to see if it updated. and i deleted a map cause i did not need it anymore. i deleted one that had a gigantic castle i was working on for a lan party this weekend. how do i get it back? it was like... 10,000 blocks....
#2415 [23:19] <DiskDaemon> Restore it from a backup
#2416 [23:19] <Professor-Colress> Alright faggots
#2417 [23:19] * AuBot kicked Professor-Colress from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rofessor-Colress :Please keep it civil.)
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#2420 [23:19] <EpicBoss> how do i restore it from a backup?
#2421 [23:19] <DiskDaemon> Professor-Colress: Please don't make me ban you
#2422 [23:19] <Professor-Colress> Hey DiskDaemon
#2423 [23:19] <DiskDaemon> EpicBoss: It helps if you have a backup in the first place. The mac might provide a way for you to undo the delete action that you performed
#2424 [23:19] <Professor-Colress> My minecraft is lagging like a bitch
#2425 [23:19] <Professor-Colress> i have 5 gb of ram
#2426 [23:20] <Professor-Colress> i only use under 1 gb of ram
#2427 [23:20] <Professor-Colress> for minecraf
#2428 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> Professor-Colress: Minecraft works best with small amounts of ram. 384mb for the game, for example
#2429 [23:20] <EpicBoss> how do i get the map back step by step? i really only play the game. i dont know how
#2430 [23:20] <Professor-Colress> *minecraft i have geforce x 250
#2431 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> EpicBoss: Sorry, I don't know the first thing about recovery on macs
#2432 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> Professor-Colress: The size of your piece is not related to lag
#2433 [23:21] <Professor-Colress> It's my
#2434 [23:21] <chris_> I updated to 1.4.2. Now I can't join multiplayer services because the server is outdated. can I go back to 1.3.2 so I can play?
#2435 [23:21] <Professor-Colress> graphics card it's geforce gts 250
#2436 [23:21] <Professor-Colress> Hey chris
#2437 [23:21] <Professor-Colress> do you want
#2438 [23:21] <Professor-Colress> a server for 1.4
#2439 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> EpicBoss: This might help http://www.cultofmac.com/67472/how-to-undelete-files-in-mac-os-x-macrx/
#2440 [23:21] * Chris pokes Professor-Colress in the eye
#2440 [23:21] <Professor-Colress> i have a couple
#2441 [23:22] <chris_> yes please.
#2442 [23:22] <Professor-Colress> 198.15.73.170
#2443 [23:22] <Professor-Colress> here
#2444 [23:22] <EpicBoss> that did not help. anyone els know how to get a map back? this map took me weeks to build.
#2445 [23:23] <Professor-Colress> I can't play atm
#2446 [23:23] <Professor-Colress> cause of my pc lag
#2447 [23:23] <Chris> inb4 advertising?
#2448 [23:23] <Professor-Colress> i can't play any game without lagging
#2449 [23:23] <Professor-Colress> Shit sorry
#2450 [23:23] <Professor-Colress> about that
#2451 [23:23] <Chris> I don't want it, why are you sending it to me
#2452 [23:23] <chris_> thanks.
#2453 [23:23] <chris_> ...we have two chris'
#2454 [23:24] <Chris> remind me to ns group your name too
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#2458 [23:27] <EpicBoss> help me!! i deleted a world that took forever to build!! how do i get it back?
#2459 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> EpicBoss: Do you have a backup?
#2460 [23:28] <EpicBoss> i dont know what that is... i play the game and thats all.
#2461 [23:29] <DiskDaemon> It's a hard lesson to learn, but you can't get it back if you don't back it up.
#2462 [23:29] <Professor-Colress> They need more boss mobs in mc
#2463 [23:29] <Professor-Colress> i would like to see some desert mobs
#2464 [23:29] <Professor-Colress> They have none
#2465 [23:29] <DiskDaemon> EpicBoss: A backup is a copy that is made, as a form of protection against just this form of stupidity
#2466 [23:29] <Professor-Colress> which is sad same for ocean mobs
#2467 [23:29] <EpicBoss> seriously? is there anything i can do?? this took me weeks....
#2468 [23:29] <Professor-Colress> and flying mobs
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#2470 [23:29] <Professor-Colress> 1 flying mob
#2471 [23:29] <Professor-Colress> wait 2 currently
#2472 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> EpicBoss: The best thing to do is to learn a lesson from your mistake, and take steps to prevent the same problem from happening again
#2473 [23:30] <EpicBoss> crap.........
#2474 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> EpicBoss: I believe that macs have easy ways for automatic backups to occur
#2475 [23:32] <Professor-Colress> They should make a adventure map with like redstone puzzles like on myst man that game was fun
#2476 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> Professor-Colress: See http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/951071-shop-myst-like-puzzle-maps-index/
#2477 [23:33] <Professor-Colress> I have already done that map :)
#2478 [23:34] <DiskDaemon> Professor-Colress: Good then - for multiple maps are listed there
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#2484 [23:45] <brandon420> How can i downgrade to 1.3? I am running ubuntu 12.10
#2485 [23:46] <brandon420> Or, where can i get a copy of the .bin folder so that i can downgrade?
#2486 [23:46] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion
#2487 [23:46] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#2488 [23:47] <brandon420> How does that run on linux?
#2489 [23:47] <DiskDaemon> with ease
#2490 [23:47] <brandon420> when i ran the python script nothign happened.
#2491 [23:47] <puffrfish> DiskDaemon: since Mojang is keeping the jars on the assets server is it okay to link those?
#2492 [23:48] <brandon420> and the .exe opens in wine...
#2493 [23:48] <DiskDaemon> puffrfish: Only if Mojang says that it's okay. They haven't as of yes, so no.
#2494 [23:48] <DiskDaemon> brandon420: How did you run the script?
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#2496 [23:48] <brandon420> Allow executing as program
#2497 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> That shouldn't be needed for a python script
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#2499 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> brandon420: Have you looked at the examples from the MCNostalgia page about running it in Linux?
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#2501 [23:50] <brandon420> It just shows the screen shot of it after it has been started.
#2502 [23:50] <DiskDaemon> correct
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#2507 [23:53] <EpicBoss> heym just wanted to say i went into time machine which is my backup for my whole computer. i set it for noon this morning and i got my map back. thanks guys!!!!!! its an gigantic map.
#2508 [23:53] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#2509 [23:54] <EpicBoss> i didnt know that time machine could do that. i thought it was only for files. not games. but now i see i can use it as a refresher! thanks a million!
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