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#10 [00:06] <forronald> :(
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#12 [00:07] <forronald> I still crashed
#13 [00:07] <forronald> sky
#14 [00:07] <forronald> and disk
#15 [00:08] <spaz> every time i try and start up minecraft it keeps taking me to a new page saying bad video card drivers... what do i do???
#16 [00:08] <forronald> Update your driivers maybe?
#17 [00:08] <skyboy> ??> spaz win/dxdiag
#18 [00:08] <VoxelHead> spaz: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#19 [00:08] <VoxelHead> spaz: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#20 [00:08] <spaz> ya how do i do that
#21 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> forronald: In regard to your video card drivers - does your laptop use switchable graphics?
#22 [00:10] <forronald> switchable what?
#23 [00:11] <forronald> not computer savvy
#24 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> forronald: Switchable graphics is where a low-power graphics chip is used, and the laptop switches over to the better graphcs card when more powerful directx graphics stuff is required
#25 [00:12] <forronald> how do i know if that happens?
#26 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> forronald: Sorry, I thought you might know that type of thing about your own computer
#27 [00:13] <spaz> http://pastebin.com/M3hSaXmD
#28 [00:13] <spaz> i think thats it
#29 [00:13] <forronald> i only know the obvious stuff
#30 [00:13] <spaz> and idk about swtchable graphics
#31 [00:13] <skyboy> google implies that his computer does have a discrete gpu
#32 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> forronald: From what I see on the internet though, I suspect the answer is no, which rules out another potential cause of your problem
#33 [00:14] <spaz> ?
#34 [00:14] <spaz> so what do i do?
#35 [00:14] <forronald> pk and spaz how old is your computer considering you have so much space left and its Windows 8?
#36 [00:14] <forronald> ok
#37 [00:14] <spaz> like a couple of months
#38 [00:14] <forronald> oh
#39 [00:14] <spaz> not old at all
#40 [00:15] <forronald> does Minecraft work on Windows 8?
#41 [00:15] <skyboy> there might be updated drivers still
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#43 [00:15] <skyboy> but given yours are from 7/25; i'm not sure
#44 [00:15] <skyboy> ?? gpu/intel
#45 [00:15] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#46 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> forronald: Of course
#47 [00:15] <skyboy> you can check there, thouogh
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#49 [00:15] <Redneck_Texan> Howdy
#50 [00:15] <Redneck_Texan> I need some helpa
#51 [00:16] <forronald> Wahtcha need?
#52 [00:16] <spaz> what kinda driver am i getting then?
#53 [00:16] <forronald> I mean whats your problem?
#54 [00:16] <forronald> Redneck_Twxan whats your problem/
#55 [00:17] <Redneck_Texan> I need...
#56 [00:17] <forronald> .......
#57 [00:17] <Redneck_Texan> Some...
#58 [00:18] <forronald> JUST ANSWER!
#59 [00:18] <Redneck_Texan> Tuna Helpa!
#60 [00:18] <forronald> ./kick Redneck_Texan
#61 [00:18] <Redneck_Texan> Eat tuna helpa, because I do!
#62 [00:18] <forronald> Your lucky im not an op
#63 [00:18] <Redneck_Texan> Actually I'm unlucky
#64 [00:19] <forronald> I would kick you in 5 seconds
#65 [00:19] <Redneck_Texan> I'll be back in a week anyway
#66 [00:19] <Redneck_Texan> So see me then
#67 [00:19] <forronald> If you coome back ill get someone to ip-ban you
#68 [00:19] <Redneck_Texan> I'm glad you don't got ya magic
#69 [00:19] <Redneck_Texan> Not gonna work on me
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#72 [00:19] <skyboy> don't make threats you can't follow up on, forronald
#73 [00:20] <forronald> He was kicked so then again
#74 [00:20] <forronald> actually he was banned
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#76 [00:22] <forronald> So back to my problem.....................
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#78 [00:23] <forronald> Anyone?'
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#84 [00:30] <Eddie> What's with people nowadays?
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#86 [00:31] <docchoc> h
#87 [00:31] <docchoc> i've a bit of a question
#88 [00:31] <docchoc> let's say i want to keep my current version of minecraft so that way i can keep my mods
#89 [00:32] <docchoc> but i want to have a second version of minecraft (the new one) so that way i can screw with some of the new stuff
#90 [00:32] <docchoc> is there any way i can back up the current version to access without too much work?
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#92 [00:37] <Cookie> docchoc, the simplest solution is to just back up the .minecraft folder
#93 [00:37] <Cookie> there's also MultiMC I hear http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1000645-multimc-41-windows-linux-mac/
#94 [00:37] <docchoc> so open appdata and copy out the .minecraft folder?
#95 [00:38] <docchoc> i'm running windows7 if that helps?
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#98 [00:51] <Makitamike> hello
#99 [00:52] <Makitamike> There is a problem with sound with the new 1.4 update and with PPC Mac on 10.5.8. The sound does not work properly. The sound is fine with 1.3.2 and lower. Can this be fixed?
#100 [00:52] <Makitamike> There is a problem with sound with the new 1.4 update and with PPC Mac on 10.5.8. The sound does not work properly. The sound is fine with 1.3.2 and lower. Can this be fixed?
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#105 [01:13] <Boyzx> help
#106 [01:15] <Boyzx> how to fix this error when i log in a server "failed to login java.net.connectexception connection timed out connect"
#107 [01:15] <Andrio> !login
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#119 [01:29] <catfishfrog> Anyone help me with these two errors? Am googling them too: Bad packet ID 223 and internal exception: java.oi.IOException: Received string length is less than zero! Weird string!
#120 [01:30] <Andrio> Where are you getting that?
#121 [01:30] <Andrio> Server console?
#122 [01:30] <catfishfrog> No , i get kicked from the server i play on.
#123 [01:31] <Andrio> Is it the same version of Minecraft as yours?
#124 [01:31] <puffrfish> catfishfrog: is it when you place a 1.4 object? or grab it from your creative inventory?
#125 [01:31] <catfishfrog> Owner of the server made it playable for both 1.4 and the previous version. Im currently running 1.3.2
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#127 [01:32] <puffrfish> oh, yeah, those are totally unofficial and not meant to work very well
#128 [01:32] <allenmelon> when you use the new anvil to rename an item, can you change the color of the text?
#129 [01:32] <catfishfrog> Oh , my friend she is getting the error and shes a mod on the server.
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#131 [01:35] <BananaBrand> I bought and downloaded minecraft but it won't load and it also says I do not have the premium version
#132 [01:35] <catfishfrog> Ok well thanks so much, I figured it was just osmething on server side end. YAR thanks.
#133 [01:35] <catfishfrog> Ok well thanks so much, I figured it was just osmething on server side end. YAR thanks.
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#162 [03:26] <jackson2> \how do i join?
#163 [03:27] <jackson2> \i am having trouble when i click the mleft mouse it does not select a block
#164 [03:28] <jackson2> \i also get a black control bar across the bottom of the screen
#165 [03:29] <Andrio> The middle mouse button thing only works in creative mode
#166 [03:29] <Andrio> Or if you already have whatever block it is.
#167 [03:30] <jackson2> \i cant select the block using the left mouse is there a setting i need to change
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#169 [03:30] <Andrio> The left mouse button is for breaking blocks.
#170 [03:31] <Andrio> also, you don't need the backslash before each message.
#171 [03:31] <Andrio> If your mouse has a wheel in between the left and right buttons, press that.
#172 [03:32] <jackson2> yes i have a wheel, tks re the \
#173 [03:32] <Andrio> The wheel is the middle button.
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#175 [03:34] <jackson2> i presss the mouse button and i get a "\" at the bottom of the screen and the mouse selects the block but does not do anything
#176 [03:36] <Andrio> ok
#177 [03:36] <jackson2> its like i have chat turned on or something
#178 [03:36] <Andrio> From the main title screen, click on 12Options, then 12Controls.
#179 [03:37] <Andrio> then tell me what 12Pick Block is set to.
#180 [03:37] <jackson2> button 1
#181 [03:37] <Andrio> Ah.
#182 [03:38] <Andrio> That's the left button... it's button 3 by default.
#183 [03:38] <jackson2> so do I need to change it?
#184 [03:38] <Andrio> what's 12Command set to?
#185 [03:38] <Andrio> what's 12Command set to?
#186 [03:39] <jackson2> button 1
#187 [03:39] <Andrio> Change that.
#188 [03:39] <jackson2> how do i change it?
#189 [03:39] <Andrio> That's what opens the chat with the 12/.
#190 [03:40] <Andrio> click on where it says 4Button 1 and then press whatever key or button you want to change it to.
#191 [03:40] <Andrio> I'd recommend the / key.
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#194 [03:42] <jackson2> ok the chat does not open now so that worked
#195 [03:43] <jackson2> but the block is selected but does not get removed when i click the left mouse
#196 [03:43] <Andrio> what's 12Attack set to?
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#198 [03:43] <Andrio> That's the command you'll use to break blocks.
#199 [03:43] <jackson2> button 1
#200 [03:43] <Andrio> also, you have to hold the left mouse.
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#202 [03:45] <jackson2> do i need to do something else to break blocks? sorry im new today
#203 [03:45] <Andrio> No
#204 [03:45] <Andrio> Just point at it with the cross in the middle if the screen and hold the left mouse button until the block breaks.
#205 [03:45] <Andrio> of the screen*
#206 [03:46] <Andrio> Whatever you're trying to break, it can't be too far away from you.
#207 [03:47] <jackson2> i am really close and its not beaking
#208 [03:47] <Andrio> what are you trying to break?
#209 [03:48] <jackson2> snow
#210 [03:48] <Andrio> That shouldn't be a problem.
#211 [03:48] <Andrio> Is your character's arm moving?
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#214 [03:49] <jackson2> no
#215 [03:49] <Andrio> ok
#216 [03:50] <Andrio> If you press the attack button and your arm doesn't move, the control isn't working.
#217 [03:50] <Andrio> Wait a moment
#218 [03:50] <jackson2> so attack is set to button 1, whgich is the left mouse/
#219 [03:51] <Andrio> It's because you have 13Attack and 13Pick block set to the same button.
#220 [03:51] <Andrio> You'll have to change one of them.
#221 [03:51] <jackson2> what do you reccoment\d
#222 [03:51] <Necrodoom> mouse wheel for pick block
#223 [03:52] <Andrio> Well, the middle button (the wheel or button 3) works well for me.
#224 [03:52] <Andrio> for pick block, that is.
#225 [03:53] <jackson2> ace we are now in action I think. tks for your help
#226 [03:53] <Andrio> No problem :)
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#228 [04:03] <Andrio> If you're new, why were your controls settings being messed with?
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#243 [04:38] <rowanmc19> Hello, can anyone offer me help?
#244 [04:40] <rowanmc19> I cannot connect to multiplayer in tekkit or vanilla minecraft. Every time i select any server to play on, it lags for a few seconds, then says failed to connect:connection timed out... can someone tell me how to fix this?
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#246 [04:43] <Con> I cannot update 1.4.2 - can you help
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#248 [04:48] <rowanmc19> why cant you update?
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#253 [04:57] <John_Gregg> WHy can't i update my game?
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#256 [04:59] <John_Gregg> or a better question what "fatal error (4)"?
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#259 [05:00] <John_Gregg> is there anyone here?
#260 [05:00] <Kyron> no
#261 [05:00] <John_Gregg> i should've kniwn
#262 [05:00] <Kyron> Is "fatal error (4)" all you see?
#263 [05:00] <John_Gregg> known*
#264 [05:00] <John_Gregg> no
#265 [05:01] <Kyron> is it something with permission denied?
#266 [05:02] <Kyron> What OS are you working on?
#267 [05:02] <Kyron> Did you allow Minecraft in your fire-wall?
#268 [05:02] <John_Gregg> yes
#269 [05:02] <Con> i dont know
#270 [05:02] <tyteen4a03> hi
#271 [05:02] <tyteen4a03> am I missing something?
#272 [05:02] <John_Gregg> I've updated before and all if a sudden it just stopped one day
#273 [05:02] <John_Gregg> it stopped after i added mods buy i deleted the mods
#274 [05:02] <John_Gregg> btt*
#275 [05:03] <tyteen4a03> John_Gregg: How did you delete the mods?
#276 [05:03] <John_Gregg> i found the file and moved it to trash and emptied
#277 [05:03] <tyteen4a03> John_Gregg: Try force updating first
#278 [05:03] <John_Gregg> doesn't work
#279 [05:04] <John_Gregg> I've even deleted and re downloaded
#280 [05:04] <tyteen4a03> John_Gregg: Can you visit Minecraft.net normally?
#281 [05:04] <John_Gregg> yes
#282 [05:05] <tyteen4a03> John_Gregg: When did it stop working?
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#284 [05:05] <John_Gregg> a few months ago
#285 [05:05] <EBrarian> is there any advantage to using an efficiency 4 shovel instead of an efficiency 4 pickaxe ?
#286 [05:05] <EBrarian> both seem to move through sand at the same speed...
#287 [05:06] <tyteen4a03> John_Gregg: Username please?
#288 [05:06] <John_Gregg> Texasmade12
#289 [05:06] <tyteen4a03> EBrarian: Depends on what you're trying to mine/dig through
#290 [05:07] <tyteen4a03> EBrarian: Pickaxe will be better than shovels when it comes to mining through stone, while shovels are much better in dirt
#291 [05:07] <EBrarian> both seem to move through sand at the same speed...
#292 [05:07] <tyteen4a03> EBrarian: I'd go for shovel for sand
#293 [05:07] <tyteen4a03> ??> John_Gregg win/hosts
#294 [05:07] <VoxelHead> John_Gregg: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#295 [05:07] <VoxelHead> John_Gregg: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#296 [05:08] <Kyron> [11:01:54] <Kyron> Did you allow Minecraft in your fire-wall?
#297 [05:08] <Kyron> [11:01:59] <John_Gregg> yes
#298 [05:08] <Kyron> Are you sure?
#299 [05:09] <John_Gregg> i belive so, i don't think it would've downloaded if the fire wall didn't allow it
#300 [05:09] <tyteen4a03> John_Gregg: actually, it will
#301 [05:09] <John_Gregg> oh
#302 [05:09] <John_Gregg> ill check my firewall
#303 [05:09] <Kyron> Do you know how to check if it's enabled?
#304 [05:10] <John_Gregg> sorta
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#307 [05:11] <tyteen4a03> Kyron: you gonna take over? I'm sick
#308 [05:11] <Kyron> Sure I'll take over
#309 [05:11] <Kyron> get well soon
#310 [05:11] <qwertytrains> Get better soon!
#311 [05:12] <tyteen4a03> thanks, ping me if I'm needed
#312 [05:12] <qwertytrains> I just joined... What is needed help with
#313 [05:12] <qwertytrains> Help needed with*
#314 [05:12] <tyteen4a03> qwertytrains: I'm only aware of John_Gregg's case, which Kyron is taking care of
#315 [05:12] <tyteen4a03> *of which
#316 [05:12] <qwertytrains> Okay
#317 [05:13] <Kyron> John_Gregg, what system are you working on? I assume Windows XP/7 ?
#318 [05:14] <qwertytrains> Or vista?
#319 [05:14] <John_Gregg> no mac osx
#320 [05:14] <qwertytrains> Oh
#321 [05:14] <John_Gregg> ya
#322 [05:14] <Calinou> 1 gatekeeper ticket
#323 [05:15] <qwertytrains> Idk what your problem is though John... I recently came back on
#324 [05:16] <John_Gregg> oh ok maybe i deleted something with out realizing it
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#327 [05:21] <John_Gregg> What time is the narwhal bacon?
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#329 [05:21] <DiskDaemon> s/is/does
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#331 [05:22] <DiskDaemon> John_Gregg: At the polar opposite to that of the rainbow unicorn
#332 [05:22] <DiskDaemon> i.e., midnight
#333 [05:22] <John_Gregg> nice
#334 [05:23] <John_Gregg> alright I'm out thanks for your help
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#339 [05:35] <tophat> hi, minecraft wont load
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#345 [05:40] <skyboy> !ping
#346 [05:40] <GreyBot> skyboy Your Ping time was 0.702 seconds.
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#353 [05:59] <Sebl> hi guys, the problem with the news screen I had yesterday is gone, but I still can't join the multiplayer server that used to work the evening of the 1.4.2 release
#354 [06:00] <Andrio> What happens when you try to join it?
#355 [06:00] <Sebl> it hangs on the login screen for the server
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#357 [06:00] <Andrio> Login screen?
#358 [06:01] <Sebl> then the game freezes for a few seconds, then the error message java.net.connectexception: connection timed out: connect
#359 [06:01] <Andrio> What's the server address?
#360 [06:01] <Sebl> 95.223.249.78:7777 its a private server a friend hosts when we need it
#361 [06:02] <Andrio> !check 95.223.249.78:7777
#362 [06:02] <Andrio> Little vulgar...
#363 [06:02] <Sebl> i know... wasn't my idea
#364 [06:03] <Andrio> If you still can't join, maybe a firewall is blocking your Minecraft client.
#365 [06:03] <Andrio> Can you join other servers?
#366 [06:03] <Sebl> have any test ips for me on 1.4.2?
#367 [06:04] <Andrio> Try s.nerd.nu
#368 [06:04] <Andrio> It's not up to date, but that won't matter if you can't connect.
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#371 [06:05] <Sebl> it says outdated server and gets me back to the main menu
#372 [06:05] <Sebl> my friend says, he could join the server via external IP and localhost
#373 [06:06] <Andrio> To make sure, try to join your friend again
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#375 [06:06] <Andrio> I can connect to his server OK.
#376 [06:07] <Sebl> ok, when i disable my windows firewall, its different o.O
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#378 [06:07] <Andrio> How's it different?
#379 [06:08] <Sebl> hu, now its just the way it was, but 1 time i tried to connect was different
#380 [06:08] <DiskDaemon> Sebl: Remove the java.exe entries from your firewall, then restart minecraft and accept the additions that it wants to make to the firewall
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#383 [06:10] <Sebl> just no difference to before, gonna test without my avast antivir
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#386 [06:11] <enneract1> I have a weird smp issue. I can connect to my server via its LAN ip, but not my WAN ip. People outside my LAN can connect via WAN ip (ports are forwarded)
#387 [06:12] <peter1> I can login. He said Update failed who can I fix it
#388 [06:12] <peter1> I can't
#389 [06:12] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#390 [06:13] <peter1> I have under Linux no Anti virus software
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#392 [06:13] <DiskDaemon> In that case, I'll leave this for someone else who knows something about Linux
#393 [06:13] <enneract1> probably permissions
#394 [06:14] <peter1> for 2 days I can play without errors
#395 [06:14] <peter1> for 2 days I can play without errors
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#397 [06:16] <Sebl> just erased my MC folder and downloading it new now... -_-
#398 [06:23] <Sebl> and just the same as before...
#399 [06:24] <Sebl> don't know what to do after that....
#400 [06:28] <peter1> update jgwl has fix it
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#403 [06:42] <peter1> How can I add a minimap in MC
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#410 [06:52] <zack6849> peter1, a mod with minimaps.
#411 [06:53] <peter1> I have fix it with reis minimap
#412 [06:53] <peter1> a good tutorial I found
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#415 [07:00] <Diplomat> Hey guys!
#416 [07:00] <Diplomat> Any server admins here ?
#417 [07:02] <Andrio> No.
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#419 [07:02] <Andrio> If you were banned, we here can't do anything about it.
#420 [07:06] <Diplomat> lol why should i be banned?
#421 [07:06] <Diplomat> i'm just looking for advice for configuring my server
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#423 [07:08] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: Just ask your question
#424 [07:08] <Diplomat> well i would like to add messages to my server that appear with like.. maybe in every 5 minutes
#425 [07:08] <Diplomat> but i have absolutely no idea how to do it
#426 [07:08] <tyteen4a03> sounds like a server mod
#427 [07:08] <Diplomat> I installed this bukkit or whatever it is
#428 [07:09] <Diplomat> it wont help me ?
#429 [07:09] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: Bukkit is just a server wrapper, it doesn't contain this feature as far as I know
#430 [07:09] <tyteen4a03> you'll want to ask the people at #bukkit
#431 [07:09] <Diplomat> ah.. i see, but do you know any mods that can do it ?
#432 [07:09] <Diplomat> or any mods that welcome the player when he or she connects to the server?
#433 [07:10] <Andrio> There are plugins for CraftBukkit for that.
#434 [07:10] <Diplomat> lol bukkit sounds like bukkake
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#437 [07:13] <peter1> One Question When I create a Minecraft Server I have only the World folder. A Craftbukit launcher I have World, world_nether and World_tehend. Is my Minecraft server false or is it correct
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#439 [07:14] <Andrio> I'm pretty sure that's normal for a Bukkit server.
#440 [07:14] <Diplomat> ok, i have craftbukkit now and it starts with the server.. is this stuff controlled via console ?
#441 [07:15] <Diplomat> my server is so badass :P 1000 slots.. im thinking about adding some more
#442 [07:16] <Diplomat> any ideas how many slots i can have on.. dual quad core intel xeon 3440, 96gb ram ?
#443 [07:19] <DiskDaemon> It depends on your networking situation too
#444 [07:19] <Diplomat> It's behind 100mbps dedicated
#445 [07:19] <Diplomat> so it should bring in over 40TB in and out
#446 [07:20] <DiskDaemon> I'd say around 300 concurrent users then
#447 [07:20] <Diplomat> only 300 ?
#448 [07:20] <Diplomat> no way
#449 [07:21] <Diplomat> when 80 people can be behind shared 100mbps and 5gb ram
#450 [07:21] <DiskDaemon> Even if you had just 30gb of ram, the bandwidth is your bottleneck
#451 [07:21] <Diplomat> true, but 100mbps dedicated is something completely different of 100mbps shared
#452 [07:22] <Diplomat> most of the server providers have 100mbps shared between 5-10 servers
#453 [07:22] <DiskDaemon> Okay, let's push up the bandwidth by a factor of 10 then to 1000mbps equivalent. We get over 1100 users
#454 [07:22] <Diplomat> hm
#455 [07:23] <peter1> What is the Best Minecraft server or craftbukkit server
#456 [07:23] <Diplomat> well we can test it :P
#457 [07:23] <Diplomat> but for that we need 1000 people in my server :/
#458 [07:24] <tyteen4a03> also, do remember that java is a memory hog
#459 [07:24] <Diplomat> hm.. strange thing is i have 1.4.2 , but now my server has 1.3 with a X, this bukkit thing dont have support for 1.4.2 ? because i just installed bukkit
#460 [07:24] <Diplomat> true tyteen
#461 [07:25] <Andrio> Bukkit hasn't been updated for 1.4 yet.
#462 [07:25] <Diplomat> ah
#463 [07:26] <peter1> Which is better or stable Minecraft or Bujkkit
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#465 [07:27] <Diplomat> anybody wants a free minecraft server ?
#466 [07:27] <tyteen4a03> will pass
#467 [07:27] <tyteen4a03> although I don't mind free VPS :D
#468 [07:27] <tyteen4a03> peter1: There is no "better" choice
#469 [07:27] <Diplomat> are you good at configuring minecraft servers ?
#470 [07:28] <peter1> What are the differents
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#472 [07:28] <Diplomat> i have shittons of servers and they are all badass.. so i dont mind giving away a server to somebody who could help me
#473 [07:28] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: depends, if everything can be read from documentation
#474 [07:28] <Diplomat> yea but documentation is like a manual and im a man, men don't read manuals..
#475 [07:28] <Diplomat> lol
#476 [07:29] <tyteen4a03> peter1: the official Minecraft server is vanilla (no mods, just basic server functionality) while CraftBukkit allows plugins and such
#477 [07:29] * tyteen4a03 must have been a woman
#477 [07:30] <Diplomat> tyteen im willing to give you a vps for free + op spot in my minecraft + any other games that you play if you help me configuring my server haha
#478 [07:30] <Diplomat> minecraft server*
#479 [07:31] <Diplomat> or whoever wants to help me and knows how to do that kind of stuff
#480 [07:31] <Diplomat> or i can pay too, doesnt matter
#481 [07:31] <tyteen4a03> helpers at #minecrafthelp provide service for free
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#484 [07:32] <Diplomat> yes, free is an option too :)
#485 [07:32] <tyteen4a03> I suppose this is your first time setting up a bukkit server?
#486 [07:32] <Diplomat> yup
#487 [07:32] <Diplomat> i have had minecraft like under a month lol
#488 [07:32] <peter1> When I play on Minecraft server. Can I take the world folder after testing over to a bukkit server and play without any trouble
#489 [07:32] <Diplomat> maybe 2 weeks
#490 [07:32] <tyteen4a03> peter1: i.e migrating your server's world folder to singleplayer?
#491 [07:32] <tyteen4a03> peter1: In most cases, yes, but be careful about server mods that add new items/blocks
#492 [07:33] <peter1> Multiplayer folder on a Minecraft server
#493 [07:33] <peter1> moved after some playing to bukkit with some mods
#494 [07:33] <peter1> thats what I mena
#495 [07:33] <peter1> mean
#496 [07:33] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: but in all seriousness, manual reading will save you a lot of time (those time come from waiting for replies)
#497 [07:33] <tyteen4a03> peter1: There might be some issues then
#498 [07:33] <Diplomat> true
#499 [07:35] <peter1> so it is better to wait for craftbukkit 1.4 and start playing there with mods
#500 [07:35] <peter1> afk
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#502 [07:36] <tyteen4a03> peter1: no, what I mean is some plugins add new item/blocks of which the singleplayer version does not recongize and therefore crashes the game
#503 [07:37] <peter1> ok
#504 [07:37] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: the setup for bukkit is basically run the jar once, stop the server, edit the configuration then run it again
#505 [07:38] <peter1> What server do you prefer
#506 [07:38] <Diplomat> hm
#507 [07:38] <tyteen4a03> peter1: As in a minecraft server, or server software?
#508 [07:39] <Diplomat> but it's 1.3 and i have 1.4
#509 [07:39] <peter1> Server software
#510 [07:39] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: The server configuration hardly change, but you can wait until a recommended build for 1.4 comes out, or downgrade to 1.3 and continue configurating
#511 [07:39] <tyteen4a03> peter1: I don't have a perference, I don't host Minecraft servers
#512 [07:39] <Diplomat> hm.. how do i downgrade lol
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#514 [07:40] <tyteen4a03> ??> Diplomat mcnostagia
#515 [07:40] <Diplomat> sorry, im like a mega noob
#516 [07:40] <tyteen4a03> ugh
#517 [07:40] <tyteen4a03> index
#518 [07:40] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#519 [07:40] <peter1> The server on which you are play are minecraft or bukkti server or don't know
#520 [07:40] <tyteen4a03> peter1: I don't play on any minecraft servers
#521 [07:40] <tyteen4a03> heck, I don't even play Minecraft that much
#522 [07:40] <peter1> only Singleplayer or Developer
#523 [07:41] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: Google "MCNostagia", it's a software that apply binary patches to your minecraft.jar, effectively "downgrading" it
#524 [07:41] <james_> hey, the new update for minecraft, wont let me update it. it says fatal error occured : (null) any help!
#525 [07:42] <tyteen4a03> james_: Turn off any anti-virus and firewalls (including the built-in Windows one) and try again
#526 [07:42] <Diplomat> http://www.minecraftmine.org/how-to-downgrade-minecraft/
#527 [07:42] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: Don't use that
#528 [07:42] <james_> okay? and if it works then put it back on
#529 [07:43] <tyteen4a03> james_: Depends on which Anti-Virus you use, and firewalls aren't really necessary
#530 [07:43] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-tool-cyborgs-tools-mcnostalgia-104/
#531 [07:43] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: I mean http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-212-now-works-with-142/
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#533 [07:43] <Diplomat> yea but i successfully downgraded using that guide
#534 [07:43] <Diplomat> worked well
#535 [07:44] <Compodulator> a long time ago...
#536 [07:44] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: I won't trust that
#537 [07:44] <Compodulator> oh, it's right in the title xD
#538 [07:44] <Diplomat> i dunno worked well
#539 [07:44] <Compodulator> where does one get mcnostalgia?
#540 [07:44] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-212-now-works-with-142/
#541 [07:44] <Compodulator> thank you
#542 [07:44] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: you're in luck, I happen to have the link in my clipboard
#543 [07:44] <Diplomat> ok now im downgraded, have bukkit installed, now it's time to install plugins ?
#544 [07:44] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: have you finished editing server.properties?
#545 [07:45] <Compodulator> omm no
#546 [07:45] <Diplomat> yes
#547 [07:45] <Diplomat> wait
#548 [07:45] <Compodulator> i'm redownloading mc because it became overly cluttered
#549 [07:45] <Diplomat> now i need to shut it down and then edit config
#550 [07:45] <Diplomat> and then start again ?
#551 [07:45] <james_> all i have is bit defender internet sercurity, and i cant turn it off
#552 [07:45] <Diplomat> buy avast internet security it's super nice
#553 [07:45] <james_> also i do have too many items installed
#554 [07:45] <Diplomat> only 30 eur too
#555 [07:46] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: Yes
#556 [07:46] <Diplomat> @tyteen well server properties looks the same
#557 [07:46] <tyteen4a03> james_: It's probably BitDefender that is in the way
#558 [07:47] <james_> how do i disable it for a minute when i downlaod the new update? D;
#559 [07:47] <Morrolan> There's most likely an option in its control panel.
#560 [07:48] <Morrolan> Alternatively, kill it through task manager :D
#561 [07:48] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: recent antiviruses disallow that
#562 [07:48] <tyteen4a03> unless you're hinting that bitdefender is old as hell
#563 [07:48] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: looks the same?
#564 [07:48] <Diplomat> yes
#565 [07:49] <Morrolan> It's all a matter of closing all of its processes fast enough. :P
#566 [07:49] <Diplomat> nothing should change ? lol
#567 [07:49] <Morrolan> But yes, would be easier to use its control panel, I agree.
#568 [07:49] <Diplomat> ii think bukkit is working, i cant break the bricks
#569 [07:49] <Morrolan> (Or maybe my AV suite is old as hell, and recent av software doesn't allow it at all)
#570 [07:50] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: There is also another file you want to look at, and that's bukkit.yml
#571 [07:50] <james_> yay thank you, i just lowerd the level of sercurity whist it was download the update, thanks!
#572 [07:50] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: for a list of what the configuration mean, go here: http://tekniffen.net/how-to-set-up-a-minecraft-server-part-2/
#573 [07:51] <james_> bye!
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#576 [07:52] <Diplomat> tyteen can you please tell me how do i add myself as an admin lol
#577 [07:52] <Diplomat> i just write my username to that text file ?
#578 [07:52] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: Add your name to ops.txt
#579 [07:52] <sod4> Is anyone having problems running minecraft on windows 8?
#580 [07:53] <tyteen4a03> sod4: Windows 8 RT does not support Java as far as I know
#581 [07:53] <Compodulator> windows 8 came out?
#582 [07:53] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: just a few days back, yes
#583 [07:53] <sod4> i'm on desktop and have java installed
#584 [07:53] <sod4> eclipse works fine
#585 [07:53] <Compodulator> tyteen4a03: is it as horrible as people say?
#586 [07:53] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: It feels fine for a tablet, but is terrible for a desktop
#587 [07:53] <tyteen4a03> sod4: Java 6 or 7?
#588 [07:54] <sod4> jdk1.7 which includes jrev7
#589 [07:54] <tyteen4a03> sod4: try Java 6
#590 [07:54] <Compodulator> win8 doesn't support java? O.o
#591 [07:54] <Diplomat> ohhohoho cool as hell
#592 [07:54] <Compodulator> what sort of sorcery and/or idiocy is this?
#593 [07:54] <sod4> It's not java, it loads
#594 [07:54] <sod4> It's an issue with OpenGl Drivers
#595 [07:54] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: Windows 8 RT is ARM-based
#596 [07:55] <sod4> which seems to be an ATI issue, not a minecraft issue
#597 [07:55] <tyteen4a03> it is up to oracle whether they release a Java distribution that works on ARM platforms
#598 [07:55] <tyteen4a03> sod4: Windows 7 drivers should work on 8
#599 [07:55] <Compodulator> could you give me a link of explanation of what ARM is? google is literally giving me links to actual, you know, arms o.o
#600 [07:55] <tyteen4a03> *want to release
#601 [07:55] <Compodulator> human arms. lol
#602 [07:56] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: ARM is a kind of microprocessor that is mainly seen on mobile devices
#603 [07:56] <Compodulator> oh so win8 was tailored for tablets, basically?
#604 [07:56] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: all major smartphones and both the iOS and Android platform is ARM-based
#605 [07:56] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: Yes
#606 [07:56] <Compodulator> ah
#607 [07:56] <tyteen4a03> *all major smartphones has an ARM-based CPU
#608 [07:57] <tyteen4a03> (or GPU, one might argue)
#609 [07:57] <Compodulator> i see... seems i'll be stuck in the win7 era. lol
#610 [07:57] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: However, Windows 8 Pro (which is x86-based) will continue to support Java
#611 [07:58] <Compodulator> ok, so m-soft didn't go full retard... that's actually a bit of a relief.
#612 [07:58] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: uh... I mean microprocessor architecture
#613 [07:59] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: it's really an architecture issue, and Microsoft is not the one to blame about Java issues
#614 [07:59] <Compodulator> i started getting worried that we, as a species, are going to move onto tablets
#615 [08:00] <Diplomat> i was thinking
#616 [08:00] <Diplomat> why people cant build or break bricks when they join a server?
#617 [08:01] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: Microsoft did change Windows 8 to a more tablet-like UI, but as a desktop OS, this change is horrible
#618 [08:01] <Diplomat> like what's the idea of that kind of server
#619 [08:01] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: Adventure server
#620 [08:01] <Compodulator> i've seen some screenshots and imo it's a horrible OS
#621 [08:02] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: Windows has always been horrible
#622 [08:02] <Compodulator> well not HORRIBLE
#623 [08:02] <Compodulator> it suits my needs very well i think
#624 [08:02] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: performance and design-wise, that is
#625 [08:03] <Morrolan> Diplomat - Alternatively, spawn area.
#626 [08:03] <Diplomat> hm
#627 [08:03] <Compodulator> i dunno... i either grown into it or it's because i tried to install linux and FAILED EPICALLY... but i find it generally comfortable, even if i will be the first to admit it has its... quirks...
#628 [08:04] <Compodulator> i do miss BSODs. lol
#629 [08:04] <Compodulator> actual, nostalgia inducing BSODs xD
#630 [08:04] <Compodulator> win98 kind
#631 [08:04] <Diplomat> i cant find a good plugin for my server, that automated messages plugin :/
#632 [08:04] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: might want to ask the peeps at #bukkit
#633 [08:05] <Compodulator> what's the channel for forge mods?
#634 [08:05] <Compodulator> risucraft?
#635 [08:05] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: not sure what forge is, but probably
#636 [08:05] <Morrolan> #risucraft is for mod development, not for mod assistance.
#637 [08:06] <Morrolan> So if you were going to ask "Halp, it no work", don't bother. ;)
#638 [08:06] <Compodulator> no, not quite
#639 [08:06] <Compodulator> i forgot how to use forge to install IC2, BC and RP...
#640 [08:06] <Compodulator> i really should have looked how i had that set up before wiping everything -.-;
#641 [08:07] <Diplomat> ScheduledAnnouncer 2 is the plugin :)
#642 [08:07] <Morrolan> Compodulator - Surely there'll be an explanation in its forum thread / website?
#643 [08:08] <Compodulator> yes, i'm looking for one as we speak
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#645 [08:08] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: it no longer is?
#646 [08:08] <Morrolan> As far as I'm aware it has never been.
#647 [08:08] <Morrolan> It just got used as a, uh, drain for people needing help with mods.
#648 [08:09] <tyteen4a03> some are pointed there by us
#649 [08:09] <Morrolan> Yep.
#650 [08:09] <Compodulator> well i do have a nice site bookmarked for forge modding
#651 [08:09] <tyteen4a03> so we are to partly blame for this
#652 [08:09] <Compodulator> thing is, i probably need to re-learn jav
#653 [08:09] <Compodulator> java*
#654 [08:09] <Compodulator> took some courses for it, but it turned out to be a scam -_-;
#655 [08:10] <Compodulator> the bastards DISAPPEARED
#656 [08:10] <tachyony> relativly easy if you know some of it and work with C#
#657 [08:10] <Morrolan> There's loads of tutorials online, why woud you book courses. ;)
#658 [08:11] <Compodulator> because they had the reputation of giving a proper diploma
#659 [08:12] <Compodulator> and me, being an idiot, didn't anticipate them harnessing the power of spambots or just really smart people who go onto forums specifically waiting for someone to show up, ask them where they learned and give th answer
#660 [08:12] <Compodulator> several people referred me to that course, telling me all sorts of wonderous things about those guys
#661 [08:16] <tyteen4a03> Compodulator: and you trust them?
#662 [08:16] <Compodulator> well i didn't expect this to be a scam of such enormous scale o.o
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#664 [08:18] <Compodulator> you have to admit, this sort of infiltration is pretty impressive
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#667 [08:35] <Diplomat> guys
#668 [08:35] <Diplomat> what do you think about this idea
#669 [08:36] <Diplomat> if i make a competition and who builds the coolest house or .. some kind of whatever.. gets $100 or a VPS for 6 months or something
#670 [08:37] <Diplomat> first place gets $100 and server for 6 months, second place gets a vps for 4 months and third place gets a vps for 2 months
#671 [08:37] <Diplomat> :D
#672 [08:37] <Morrolan> If you have the spare money. *shrug*
#673 [08:37] <Diplomat> 1. VPS (6 months) + $100, 2. VPS (4 months) + $50, 3. VPS (2 months) + $25
#674 [08:41] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: for a prize that heavy, you want to expect much more than a house
#675 [08:41] <Diplomat> i dont care
#676 [08:42] <Diplomat> i could make that kind of competition like.. every 2 weeks
#677 [08:43] <Diplomat> or maybe once in a month
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#680 [08:44] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: how about donating your extra money to charity
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#682 [08:45] <Diplomat> im doing it already
#683 [08:45] <Diplomat> 1000 eur to our local dog's shelter
#684 [08:45] <Diplomat> monthly
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#686 [08:46] <tyteen4a03> Diplomat: you run server hosting?
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#688 [08:46] <Diplomat> yeah
#689 [08:47] <Diplomat> i own a hosting company + marketing company
#690 [08:47] <Diplomat> im starting my own game hosting now too
#691 [08:47] <Diplomat> so im trying to study how that stuff works
#692 [08:47] <Diplomat> i have no idea how minecraft server works
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#694 [08:47] <xSuperMicex> Hello?
#695 [08:47] <Diplomat> i know how BF3, W:ET etc.. servers work because FPS gaming was my first goal
#696 [08:48] <xSuperMicex> I have few questions to Minecraft
#697 [08:48] <Diplomat> but now i decided to do minecraft too
#698 [08:48] <Andrio> xSuperMicex, ask.
#699 [08:48] <xSuperMicex> Oh "Please ask your question, don't ask to ask or wait for someone to help you." sorry didn't read that ^_^
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#701 [08:49] <xSuperMicex> Are the Developers trying to put the Performance of Minecraft more down? Or are they already finished doing it?
#702 [08:50] <xSuperMicex> (Sorry bad english :( )
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#704 [08:51] <xSuperMicex> Um? Hello?
#705 [08:51] <eight> i have multiple minecraft accounts. is it possible to migrate all of them to one mojang account? will i be able to choose after loggin in my minecraft account?
#706 [08:52] <Morrolan> xSuperMicex - There's still work being done to improve performance.
#707 [08:53] <Morrolan> eight - Uh, I don't think so, no.
#708 [08:53] <Morrolan> eight - But I haven't tried.
#709 [08:54] <xSuperMicex> What should i understand from "improve Performance"? So "low-end" Computers can execute Minecraft better and faster?
#710 [08:54] <Morrolan> It's doubtful that it'll ever run smoothly on low-end computers.
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#712 [08:55] <xSuperMicex> But it could be possible?
#713 [08:55] <Morrolan> I don't think so, no.
#714 [08:55] <Compodulator> google is being surprisingly unhelpful...
#715 [08:55] <Compodulator> looking for NEI 1.2.5 atm...
#716 [08:55] <Compodulator> all it gives me is 1.4.2
#717 [08:55] <xSuperMicex> Well, still a reason to buy a better Computer ._.
#718 [08:56] <Compodulator> awww... redpower doesn't exist on 1.3.2 =[
#719 [08:56] <Compodulator> nor does thaumcraft =[
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#721 [08:58] <xSuperMicex> Okay, Is there a special Website, where i can look, what the Developers are working on right now?
#722 [08:58] <Morrolan> Every now and then one of Minecraft's devs tweets about what he's working on.
#723 [08:58] <Morrolan> But there's no dedicated website, showing whate each and every one of them is working on.
#724 [08:59] <xSuperMicex> But for me the Tweets are flaws O.o i mean they aren't clearly arranged for me
#725 [08:59] <xSuperMicex> <-----not the Twitter type)
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#727 [09:01] <xSuperMicex> Next question \o/
#728 [09:02] <xSuperMicex> And this question disturbs me alot: Why did Markus Persson quit the developing of Minecraft?
#729 [09:02] <Morrolan> He wanted to work on a new project / new idea.
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#731 [09:03] <xSuperMicex> Is there somewhere a leaking, of the "new-idea"?
#732 [09:03] <Morrolan> Uh, yea, he announced it pretty quickly. It's called, uh, 0xsomethingsomething
#733 [09:03] <Morrolan> http://0x10c.com/
#734 [09:04] <Morrolan> Last I checked it was a combination of programming and spacesim.
#735 [09:04] <Compodulator> any NEI users here? ^^;
#736 [09:06] <xSuperMicex> 0x10c?
#737 [09:06] <xSuperMicex> What the-
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#739 [09:07] <Morrolan> 0x is a common prefix for hexadecimal numbers.
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#741 [09:07] <xSuperMicex> Holy crap dat Idea looks interesting
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#743 [09:08] <Morrolan> 10c would be 268, and no, I have no idea how he chose that name.
#744 [09:08] <Morrolan> Might just have been random ;D
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#748 [09:11] <xSuperMicex> Well, the Name Mine & Craft were brought together by the contents of the game no? xD
#749 [09:11] <K3V1N> Hallo :D i wass wondering, in the minecraft forums under servers how do i change players and server mods under my server ?
#750 [09:12] <Morrolan> Might want to ask the guys in #minecraftforums for that, K3V1N.
#751 [09:13] <xSuperMicex> I have 2 more questions: When is the "Changing Username" Option available?
#752 [09:14] <Morrolan> No clue, every now and then there's a "We're working on it", but apart from that...
#753 [09:14] <xSuperMicex> everything i need is: "We're working on it." ._. that quite sucks. But nevermind that.
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#755 [09:15] <xSuperMicex> Last question: @Morrolan: Why do you know so much? :D
#756 [09:15] <xSuperMicex> Last question: @Morrolan: Why do you know so much? :D
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#758 [09:16] <Morrolan> I've been part of Minecraft's community for quite some time, now.
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#761 [09:19] <tyteen4a03> xSuperMicex: When Mojang completes their Mojang Accounts, this function-
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#766 [09:19] <tyteen4a03> Arle: why the heck do you have this alt nick princessa
#767 [09:19] <MegaPurpleTaco> hey guys i need help
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#769 [09:21] <tyteen4a03> MegaPurpleTaco: Yes?
#770 [09:21] <Andrio> tyteen4a03, she's a different character.
#771 [09:21] <MegaPurpleTaco> when i start minecraft its fine and then when i play on my friends server its fine at first then it gets real laggy and then it freezes, says the java SE has stoppped working and then closes out
#772 [09:23] <MegaPurpleTaco> when i start minecraft its fine and then when i play on my friends server its fine at first then it gets real laggy and then it freezes, says the java SE has stoppped working and then closes out
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#775 [09:25] <MegaPurpleTaco> when i start minecraft its fine and then when i play on my friends server its fine at first then it gets real laggy and then it freezes, says the java SE has stoppped working and then closes out
#776 [09:26] <MegaPurpleTaco> can anyone help??????
#777 [09:27] <MegaPurpleTaco> when i start minecraft its fine and then when i play on my friends server its fine at first then it gets real laggy and then it freezes, says the java SE has stoppped working and then closes out
#778 [09:28] <lutzee> If you have a 64bit computer install 64bit java
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#780 [09:29] <MegaPurpleTaco> 64 bit?
#781 [09:29] <MegaPurpleTaco> what java?
#782 [09:32] <MegaPurpleTaco> lutzee which java
#783 [09:32] <lutzee> java 7 update 9 x64
#784 [09:32] <MegaPurpleTaco> okay thanks
#785 [09:32] <MegaPurpleTaco> afk
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#792 [09:47] <MegaPurpleTaco_> everytime i play on my friends server it colses out of miencraft and a file appears on my desktop and says hs_err_pid1238
#793 [09:48] <MegaPurpleTaco_> everytime i play on my friends server it colses out of miencraft and a file appears on my desktop and says hs_err_pid1238
#794 [09:49] <MegaPurpleTaco_> everytime i play on my friends server it colses out of miencraft and a file appears on my desktop and says hs_err_pid1238
#795 [09:49] <Calinou> three times is enough :P
#796 [09:49] <Calinou> MegaPurpleTaco_: paste the content here: http://paste.ubuntu.com
#797 [09:49] <MegaPurpleTaco_> ok
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#800 [09:50] <MegaPurpleTaco_> what does that even do
#801 [09:51] <Calinou> then paste the link here
#802 [09:51] <Calinou> so that we can see the error message :p
#803 [09:52] <MegaPurpleTaco_> o
#804 [09:52] <MegaPurpleTaco_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309631/
#805 [09:52] <MegaPurpleTaco_> check it out
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#807 [09:54] <Calinou> no, paste the entire error message..
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#811 [09:54] <Hello> can someone help me
#812 [09:54] <Calinou> Hello: yes, don't ask to ask
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#815 [09:54] <Hello> okay
#816 [09:55] <Hello> well my minecraft crasges
#817 [09:55] <Hello> chraches *
#818 [09:55] <Hello> uhhh
#819 [09:55] <Hello> crashes*
#820 [09:55] <Hello> lol
#821 [09:55] <Hello> everytime before i can start it
#822 [09:56] <MegaPurpleTaco_> error message??
#823 [09:56] <Hello> yes there is one
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#825 [09:58] <MegaPurpleTaco_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309650/
#826 [09:59] <Morrolan> The contents of that file, and not the file's name, is what we're interested in.
#827 [09:59] <Hello> im confused... what do i do?
#828 [09:59] <Morrolan> Hello - What's the error message you get?
#829 [09:59] <Morrolan> If it's more than a few lines, put it on pastebin.com or similar
#830 [10:00] <MegaPurpleTaco_> i got hs_err_pid1238
#831 [10:00] <lutzee> MegaPurpleTaco_: open the file in notepad, and then copy the contents to paste.ubuntu.com
#832 [10:00] <Morrolan> MegaPurpleTaco_ - Yes, but that's a (text)file, open it in a texteditor and put the contents on pastebin.
#833 [10:01] <MegaPurpleTaco_> im so confused
#834 [10:01] <MegaPurpleTaco_> O! i get it now
#835 [10:01] <Morrolan> Achievement get: Brain activated.
#836 [10:02] <Hello> http://pastebin.com/hdf1iuSc
#837 [10:02] <Hello> is that it?
#838 [10:02] <Hello> now what do i do?
#839 [10:02] <Hello> thats the error code
#840 [10:03] <Morrolan> Might want to update your GPU drivers.
#841 [10:03] <Hello> how?
#842 [10:03] <MegaPurpleTaco_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309660/
#843 [10:03] <Hello> im so confused because i used to play minecraft on this computer all the time
#844 [10:03] <Morrolan> Hello - Actually, wait a minute. Are you running any security software?
#845 [10:04] <Morrolan> (e.g. Norton, Avira, McAfee)
#846 [10:04] <Hello> avg
#847 [10:05] <MegaPurpleTaco_> me?
#848 [10:05] <Morrolan> Hello - Disable AVG's linkscanner module, start Minecraft's launcher -> options -> Force update -> Log into Minecraft as usual
#849 [10:05] <MegaPurpleTaco_> me?
#850 [10:05] <MegaPurpleTaco_> or hello
#851 [10:05] <Hello> the linkscanner is disabled
#852 [10:06] <Morrolan> Hello - Then try to just force an update.
#853 [10:06] <Morrolan> MegaPurpleTaco_ - Hello, so far. As for your crashlog, uh.
#854 [10:06] <lutzee> I was thinking the same...
#855 [10:06] <lutzee> I can only assume java is broken
#856 [10:06] <Hello> theres still an erroe
#857 [10:06] <Hello> error*
#858 [10:06] <Morrolan> Looks like Java's VM crashed, there.
#859 [10:06] <MegaPurpleTaco_> so what do i do?
#860 [10:07] <Morrolan> Hello - Okay, then let's try to update your GPU driver. Do you know what kind of graphics card you are running?
#861 [10:07] <Hello> no
#862 [10:07] <Morrolan> Hello - Windows?
#863 [10:07] <Hello> oh then yes
#864 [10:07] <Hello> windows
#865 [10:07] <Morrolan> MegaPurpleTaco_ - Suggest you idle here a bit, wait for some other people to take a look at it.
#866 [10:07] <MegaPurpleTaco_> ok
#867 [10:07] <Morrolan> Hello - No, was merely asking what operating system you are using to find out what GPU you have. ^^
#868 [10:08] <Morrolan> ??> Hello win/dxdiag
#869 [10:08] <VoxelHead> Hello: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#870 [10:08] <Hello> oh lol
#871 [10:08] <VoxelHead> Hello: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#872 [10:08] <Morrolan> Hello - Please follow VoxelHead's instructions. :)
#873 [10:08] <Hello> yes i know about dxdiag im looking at that now
#874 [10:08] <Morrolan> Okay. :)
#875 [10:08] <Morrolan> MegaPurpleTaco_ - Does that crash happen on your friend's server, only, or on any server?
#876 [10:09] <MegaPurpleTaco_> i think on his server
#877 [10:09] <MegaPurpleTaco_> lemme check ok?
#878 [10:09] <Morrolan> Sure.
#879 [10:10] <Morrolan> MegaPurpleTaco_ - If it happens on other servers, too, you could also try to reinstall Java.
#880 [10:10] <MegaPurpleTaco_> i already did
#881 [10:10] <Morrolan> Oh, joy.
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#883 [10:11] <Hello> http://pastebin.com/qJERsDZJ
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#885 [10:13] <Morrolan> Hello - Ouch, 1GB of RAM, you'll have to use a custom .bat file to launch Minecraft, since it's trying to assign itself 1GB of RAM, by default. (Which won't work if there's only 1GB in total.)
#886 [10:13] <Hello> so how do i do that?
#887 [10:13] <Morrolan> Before we do that I'll check whether there's more recent drivers, though.
#888 [10:14] <Hello> okay
#889 [10:18] <Morrolan> Grab that driver, and install it: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/radeon-prer300-xp.aspx
#890 [10:18] <Morrolan> ACtually, wait, let's try the RAM allocation first, that's less dangerous.
#891 [10:19] <Morrolan> Grab the .jar launcher from https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar?94408866228920 and save it on your desktop, or somewhere where you can find it.
#892 [10:19] <Hello> okay
#893 [10:19] <MegaPurpleTaco_> morrolan what do i do
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#895 [10:20] <Morrolan> MegaPurpleTaco_ - I'm still waiting for someone whom I asked about it. :)
#896 [10:20] <Hello> where do i put the jar now?
#897 [10:20] <MegaPurpleTaco_> ok thanks
#898 [10:20] <Morrolan> Hello - Your desktop would work.
#899 [10:20] <Hello> just in the normal bin folder?
#900 [10:20] <Hello> okay
#901 [10:20] <Morrolan> No, this minecraft.jar is different from the one in bin. :)
#902 [10:21] <Morrolan> Then, open notepad or editor.
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#904 [10:21] <Hello> okay launching
#905 [10:21] <Hello> oh okay
#906 [10:21] <Hello> now what
#907 [10:21] <Morrolan> Put "java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" (no quotes) as the first line.
#908 [10:21] <Morrolan> And "pause" (no quotes, again) as the second line.
#909 [10:22] <Hello> okay
#910 [10:22] <Morrolan> Now, did you use editor, or notepad?
#911 [10:22] <Hello> yes
#912 [10:22] <Morrolan> Notepad?
#913 [10:22] <Hello> yes notepad
#914 [10:23] <Morrolan> Okay. Select File -> Save as -> Enter "run.bat" (this time WITH the quotes) as the filename, and save it on your desktop, too.
#915 [10:24] <Hello> okay
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#917 [10:24] <Morrolan> Now double-click the newly created .bat file.
#918 [10:24] <Hello> launcher opened
#919 [10:24] <Hello> just click login now?
#920 [10:25] <Morrolan> Enter username and password, and then log in, yea.
#921 [10:25] <Hello> THANK YOU!!!
#922 [10:25] <Hello> OMG OMG OMG THANK YOU
#923 [10:25] <Morrolan> Sure thing. If you get further issues - you know where to find us. :)
#924 [10:25] <Hello> I HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO PLAY IN SOOO LONG
#925 [10:26] <MegaPurpleTaco_> i already tried re installing java btw
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#928 [10:31] <Cecer> Hey, does anyone have any idea why every Minecraft server (not including LAN) connects just fine but I get basically no updates (no chat, no movement, basically no packets)? Every other internet service is normal.
#929 [10:31] <MegaPurpleTaco_> morrolan i dont mean to be impatient and annoying but do u have a sloution
#930 [10:34] <INeedHelp> If i go into a minecraft server, it gives an error (after logging in for a long time): Failed to login: java.net.SocketException: Network is unreachable: connect. It's my own server where i'm testing on, problem is that if i turn the online-mode into false i can acces my server! But now i can't acces public servers anymore :(
#931 [10:34] <INeedHelp> So does anyone know how to fix this?
#932 [10:35] <INeedHelp> Firewall turned off, no portforwarding or whatever, my server is just to test it
#933 [10:35] <INeedHelp> It looks like the authentication server (Minecraft) is down, but the mojang website says its online and fine!
#934 [10:36] <MegaPurpleTaco_> morrola?
#935 [10:36] <MegaPurpleTaco_> *morrolan?
#936 [10:37] <INeedHelp> No respons anymore :(
#937 [10:38] <INeedHelp> Anyone who has an solution?
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#941 [10:39] <MegaPurpleTaco_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309660/
#942 [10:39] <MegaPurpleTaco_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309660/s
#943 [10:40] <MegaPurpleTaco_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309660/
#944 [10:40] <MegaPurpleTaco_> sorry accidently added the s on the 2nd one
#945 [10:41] <Yerg> That looks like a corrupt java install
#946 [10:41] <MegaPurpleTaco_> so how do i fix it
#947 [10:41] <Yerg> Completely nuke and reinstall java
#948 [10:41] <MegaPurpleTaco_> i did this morning
#949 [10:42] <lutzee> Uninstall everything related to java from your PC
#950 [10:42] <Yerg> Did you wipe java completely?
#951 [10:42] <lutzee> Then reinstall the lastes java
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#953 [10:45] <MegaPurpleTaco_> everysingle thing?
#954 [10:45] <MegaPurpleTaco_> ok
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#956 [10:46] <MegaPurpleTaco_> so u mean EVRY single file with the name java in it i have to delete
#957 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> uh, no. There should be a clean uninstall option in your operating system
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#959 [10:49] <MegaPurpleTaco_> do i goto the ocntrol panel
#960 [10:50] <lutzee> Yes
#961 [10:50] <lutzee> Then programs and features
#962 [10:50] <MegaPurpleTaco_> ok
#963 [10:52] <MegaPurpleTaco_> i have java 9 update 9
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#965 [10:53] <MegaPurpleTaco_> jave 7 i meant
#966 [10:54] <Yerg> Uninstall it
#967 [10:54] <Yerg> Everything that says java in there
#968 [10:55] <MegaPurpleTaco_> ok
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#974 [10:58] <EuronKolikko> Hey
#975 [10:58] <EuronKolikko> Can someone help me with my Minecraft problem`?
#976 [10:59] <Calinou> don't ask to ask, just ask
#977 [10:59] <MegaPurpleTaco_> k i unistalled it yerg
#978 [10:59] <EuronKolikko> Lol :D Kk
#979 [10:59] <Yerg> MegaPurpleTaco_: now reinstall it from java.com
#980 [10:59] <EuronKolikko> Okay. When I try to run my Minecraft it says: Unable to download lwjgl bla bla...
#981 [11:00] <EuronKolikko> What do I do?
#982 [11:00] <MegaPurpleTaco_> ok
#983 [11:00] <Calinou> EuronKolikko: try running minecraft as administrator
#984 [11:00] <EuronKolikko> I tried to copy the .minecraft folder from my brothers computer. I did get in game, but when I go to Multiplayer it says "Communication error"
#985 [11:00] <EuronKolikko> Calinou, not working. Have tried
#986 [11:01] <Yerg> Sounds like an anti virus issue
#987 [11:01] <Calinou> EuronKolikko: server is probably outdated then
#988 [11:01] <EuronKolikko> It is not.
#989 [11:01] <EuronKolikko> :l
#990 [11:01] <MegaPurpleTaco_> do i change the destination folder
#991 [11:01] <Calinou> firewall/AV issue then
#992 [11:01] <Yerg> MegaPurpleTaco_: No.
#993 [11:01] <Calinou> I suggest disabling your firewall then try again :P
#994 [11:02] <Calinou> might want to enable it again, but add an exception for minecraft
#995 [11:02] <EuronKolikko> I downloaded lwjgl-2.8.4. I copied the jar file to bin
#996 [11:02] <EuronKolikko> Now when I try to run the game, black screen
#997 [11:02] <EuronKolikko> Calinou, I have tried that 3 times :(
#998 [11:02] <MegaPurpleTaco_> ok
#999 [11:02] <Calinou> you're doing it wrong
#1000 [11:02] <EuronKolikko> Well then how do I do it right? D:
#1001 [11:03] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#1002 [11:03] <Yerg> You can't just copy a single file
#1003 [11:03] <EuronKolikko> If I disable my firewall
#1004 [11:03] <Yerg> Lwjgl has multiple files
#1005 [11:03] <EuronKolikko> Does it help for: lwjgl, communication error or black screen?
#1006 [11:03] <EuronKolikko> Yerg, I copied the lwjgl jar file, it had many files in it.
#1007 [11:03] <Yerg> Disable your av
#1008 [11:03] <Calinou> updating lwjgl correctly will fix black screen, yes
#1009 [11:04] <EuronKolikko> Calinou I downloaded lwjgl. When I open it it has these files (wait)
#1010 [11:04] <EuronKolikko> NVM. Deleted it lol
#1011 [11:04] <Calinou> drop the natives folder in the bin folder
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#1013 [11:04] <EuronKolikko> natives from the lwjgl?
#1014 [11:04] <Calinou> and replace lwjgl.jar, lwjgl_util.jar and jinput.jar
#1015 [11:04] <Calinou> yes
#1016 [11:05] <EuronKolikko> Okay I will try that
#1017 [11:05] <EuronKolikko> Wait
#1018 [11:05] <MegaPurpleTaco_> it says internal error
#1019 [11:05] <EuronKolikko> Do I download lwjgl-2.8.4? (latest)
#1020 [11:05] <Calinou> yes
#1021 [11:06] <joeken2001> When my son is playing mine craft and goes to the inventory and exit the inventory minecraft crashes.
#1022 [11:06] <EuronKolikko> Calinou
#1023 [11:06] <MegaPurpleTaco_> yerg it says internal error
#1024 [11:06] <EuronKolikko> When I open the file that I downloaded it, which of these do I open?
#1025 [11:06] <EuronKolikko> doc, jar, native or res?
#1026 [11:07] <Yerg> MegaPurpleTaco_: What's the full error?
#1027 [11:08] <EuronKolikko> Calinou, you there?
#1028 [11:09] <EuronKolikko> Can someone help me?
#1029 [11:10] <MegaPurpleTaco_> internal error 2203. C:/Windows/installer/5f4ad4.ipi,-2147287035
#1030 [11:10] <MegaPurpleTaco_> thats the error yerg
#1031 [11:10] <EuronKolikko> Can someone here help me?
#1032 [11:10] <EuronKolikko> PurpleTaco
#1033 [11:10] <EuronKolikko> Do you know what do I have to do?
#1034 [11:11] <EuronKolikko> When I go to minecraft multiplayer, it just keeps saying Communication error
#1035 [11:11] <MegaPurpleTaco_> no sorry i need hel ptoo lol
#1036 [11:11] <EuronKolikko> D:
#1037 [11:12] <EuronKolikko> With?
#1038 [11:12] <Yerg> MegaPurpleTaco_: try running the installer as admin
#1039 [11:12] <EuronKolikko> What installer?
#1040 [11:12] <MegaPurpleTaco_> wait what???
#1041 [11:12] <Yerg> I'm talking to MegaPurpleTaco_
#1042 [11:12] <MegaPurpleTaco_> how??
#1043 [11:13] <Yerg> Right click on the installer
#1044 [11:13] <EuronKolikko> Yerg can you try to help me next? D:
#1045 [11:13] <MegaPurpleTaco_> it just says close window
#1046 [11:13] * Yerg sighs
#1046 [11:14] <Yerg> Go here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u37-downloads-1859589.html
#1047 [11:14] <EuronKolikko> Yerg
#1048 [11:15] <Yerg> Download java. Place it on your desktop. Right click on it
#1049 [11:15] <Yerg> Run as admin
#1050 [11:15] <Yerg> Yes EuronKolikko?
#1051 [11:15] <EuronKolikko> Do you know how to fix the "Communication error"
#1052 [11:15] <EuronKolikko> ?
#1053 [11:15] <Yerg> No.
#1054 [11:16] <MegaPurpleTaco_> ok
#1055 [11:16] <EuronKolikko> Darn
#1056 [11:16] <MegaPurpleTaco_> after i download i place it on desktop?
#1057 [11:16] <Yerg> Yes.
#1058 [11:19] <EuronKolikko> I cant even go to my own server
#1059 [11:20] <MegaPurpleTaco_> ok i ran as admin
#1060 [11:22] <MegaPurpleTaco_> yerg?
#1061 [11:22] <Yerg> Install java.
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#1063 [11:22] <Yerg> Then run mine craft again
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#1065 [11:23] <MegaPurpleTaco_> ok
#1066 [11:23] <EuronKolikko> HOW do I fix COMMUNICATION ERROR in Minecraft? Any help would be nice...
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#1069 [11:29] <MegaPurpleTaco_> the installation worked yeg
#1070 [11:30] <MegaPurpleTaco_> the installation worked yerg
#1071 [11:30] <Yerg> Great
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#1073 [11:33] <MegaPurpleTaco_> but idk if minecraft works
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#1082 [11:46] <craftmasterb> Hi i just bought the gift card and redeemed it on my majang account but i cant seem to figure out why i cant download it
#1083 [11:47] <craftmasterb> when i hit the link for windows to download it, it asks me to log in but it wont accept my account information i've registered with
#1084 [11:47] <craftmasterb> please help me!
#1085 [11:47] <lutzee> Oh right... seen that error before
#1086 [11:47] <lutzee> Whats your account name?
#1087 [11:48] <craftmasterb> the "profile name" i set up is craftmasterb
#1088 [11:48] <lutzee> ;hp craftmasterb
#1089 [11:48] <WugBot> craftmasterb has paid for minecraft.
#1090 [11:48] <lutzee> well thats good
#1091 [11:48] <craftmasterb> the email i used is bat.girl33@yahoo.com
#1092 [11:48] <craftmasterb> yes i bought the game...i just cant figure out why i cant download it
#1093 [11:48] <lutzee> We are community support we don't have access to your account
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#1095 [11:49] <craftmasterb> what do you suggest??
#1096 [11:49] <lutzee> You are logging into minecraft.net using your email right?
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#1098 [11:50] <craftmasterb> yes i tried using my email and the password set up for my majang account.. i even tried resetting my password
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#1100 [11:50] <craftmasterb> but it keeps saying oops...there's an error
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#1102 [11:52] <craftmasterb> any suggestions??
#1103 [11:54] <craftmasterb> are you still there???
#1104 [11:55] <craftmasterb> someone please give me a suggestion!
#1105 [11:55] <lutzee> Well there as a guy here yesterday with the same problem and a fix wasn't found, let me go tweet mojangs support guy..
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#1107 [11:56] <Cecer> Does anyone have any idea why I get unusably high upload latency on every Minecraft server (not including LAN)? Every other internet service is normal..
#1108 [11:57] <RemnantXD> how do i fix fatal error 2
#1109 [11:57] <craftmasterb> please do thank you Lutzee
#1110 [11:57] <RemnantXD> Guys how do I fix fatal error 2
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#1113 [11:58] <lutzee> ??> RemnantXD forceupdate
#1114 [11:58] <VoxelHead> RemnantXD: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1115 [11:58] <VoxelHead> RemnantXD: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1116 [11:58] <RemnantXD> ive tried tht and it still wont work
#1117 [11:58] <lutzee> ??> RemnantXD win/reinst
#1118 [11:58] <VoxelHead> RemnantXD: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1119 [11:58] <VoxelHead> RemnantXD: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1122 [12:00] <RemnantXD> i cant find the .minecraft directory in %appdata%
#1123 [12:00] <Calinou> then there is none, or you hid it
#1124 [12:00] <RemnantXD> how do i unhide it
#1125 [12:00] <Calinou> it should not be hidden
#1126 [12:00] <Calinou> so you probably don't have any
#1127 [12:01] <Calinou> try updating your graphics card drivers through the manufacturer's website
#1128 [12:01] <RemnantXD> how do i unhide the file
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#1130 [12:03] <craftmasterb> Ok, so the minecraft launcher screen comes up and i've used my email and the profile name for my username and i used the same password ( just literally just redeemed this giftcard 20 min ago) and it wont let me log in for the minecraft launcher screen. i have no idea what i'm doing. someone please tell me what to do. am i supposed to wait for a certain amount of time before i can download the game??
#1131 [12:04] <lutzee> craftmasterb: what does the launcher say when you try to log in?
#1132 [12:06] <craftmasterb> never mind!!! it finally let me log in and download the game!!! i'm all good thanks for everything!!
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#1140 [12:11] <moomoo> i just updated to 1.4.2 and acidently hit full screen and now it crashes when i start it i did not get to play it every time i start minecrafe it goes to full screen and crashes plz help
#1141 [12:11] <Morrolan> Windows?
#1142 [12:11] <moomoo> windows vista
#1143 [12:12] <Morrolan> Navigate to %appdata%\.minecraft and open "options.txt" in a texteditor, then set "fullscreen:false"
#1144 [12:12] <Morrolan> (Or just delete the options.txt file and let it regenerate)
#1145 [12:13] <moomoo> thank you sooo much it worked
#1146 [12:14] <Morrolan> :)
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#1158 [12:41] <ZombiieBunnii> I have a Minecraft acc, and I can't login, it says i need to verify my email, i already have, and when i go to my email, the verify email isn't there, and if my first verify email, it says its already verified... help?
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#1162 [12:52] <voodoo> .
#1163 [12:52] <voodoo> cool its working
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#1165 [12:52] <Guest70124> can anyone help me with this fatal error 4?
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#1168 [12:54] <voodoo> hello can anyone help me with this fatal error 4?
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#1172 [13:00] <James_> every time i try to join a server my client crashes
#1173 [13:01] <James_> help?
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#1177 [13:10] <Calinou> citizengodden[A]: no away nicks/messages
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#1183 [13:28] <brothers2012> I downloaded my minecraft and went into settings and changed it to full screen but now whenever i go to open it it says that java Se Binary is not responding. it shows only a black screen what do i do?
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#1186 [13:29] <brothers2012> I downloaded my minecraft and went into settings and changed it to full screen but now whenever i go to open it it says that java Se Binary is not responding. it shows only a black screen what do i do?
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#1190 [13:29] <brothers2012> hello?
#1191 [13:29] <brothers2012> I downloaded my minecraft and went into settings and changed it to full screen but now whenever i go to open it it says that java Se Binary is not responding. it shows only a black screen what do i do?
#1192 [13:30] <Calinou> brothers2012: go to %appdata%/.minecraft
#1193 [13:30] <Calinou> edit options.txt, set "fullscreen" to false
#1194 [13:30] <Calinou> save and restart the game
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#1198 [13:32] <brothers2012> its for my computer is %appdata%/.minecraft a link?
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#1210 [13:35] <brothers2012> I downloaded my minecraft and went into settings and changed it to full screen but now whenever i go to open it it says that java Se Binary is not responding. it shows only a black screen what do i do?
#1211 [13:35] <alx2222> hi all :)
#1212 [13:36] <alx2222> brothers2012 try doing a force update?
#1213 [13:36] <brothers2012> yes still didnt work
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#1215 [13:36] <alx2222> try deleting the options,txt file in .minecraft folder
#1216 [13:36] <alx2222> im not sure if its called that
#1217 [13:37] <brothers2012> where do i do that at?
#1218 [13:37] <alx2222> do you have windows 7?
#1219 [13:37] <brothers2012> yes
#1220 [13:37] <alx2222> ok then press the start button, type %appdata% into the search bar and press enter
#1221 [13:38] <alx2222> then find .minecraft there
#1222 [13:38] <alx2222> and then delete options.txt
#1223 [13:39] <brothers2012> k thanks
#1224 [13:39] <alx2222> did it work?
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#1226 [13:42] <brothers2012> yes thanks
#1227 [13:43] <alx2222> np:)
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#1233 [13:49] <Jolly> hey, i dowloaded 1.4.2 and the server im on doesnt want to dowload 1.4.2 so now i cant get in
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#1253 [14:16] <Alzar> how do I get my right button to work in minecraft?
#1254 [14:17] <Alzar> it works in other games or apps but not in
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#1257 [14:18] <Alzar> when you right click to put one block while crafting the right button on the mouse does not work
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#1259 [14:18] <Jollykabuto21> i dont want 1.4.2 i want 1.3.2
#1260 [14:18] <Alzar> any ideas for help?
#1261 [14:18] <Jollykabuto21> how do i re donload 1.3.2
#1262 [14:19] <Selbram> ?? v/1.3.2
#1263 [14:19] <VoxelHead> v/1.3.2: Minecraft 1.3.2 binaries can be found on: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar
#1264 [14:19] <Jollykabuto21> it just downloaded... now what do i do?
#1265 [14:20] <Alzar> anyone know how to help with my mouse problem?
#1266 [14:20] <Jollykabuto21> ?
#1267 [14:21] <Selbram> Jollykabuto21, replace your %appdata%/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar with the one you just downloaded
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#1273 [14:25] <Jollykabuto21> i cant find my minecraft folder
#1274 [14:25] <Jollykabuto21> i dont even have one
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#1276 [14:25] <Selbram> what os are you on
#1277 [14:25] <Jollykabuto21> im on an hp windows 7
#1278 [14:26] <Selbram> click the start button and in the search area type %appdata% and press enter
#1279 [14:26] <Selbram> you should see a file broser pop up and .minecraft should be one of the first folders visible
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#1285 [14:30] <K3V1N8700> hallo, why is it that, when i make portals whit multiverse...im the only one who can use t5hem on my server no one else can?
#1286 [14:31] <Selbram> permissions
#1287 [14:31] <K3V1N8700> so i need to set permissins in groupmanger before they can?
#1288 [14:31] <Selbram> Jollykabuto21, where you able to find everything ok?
#1289 [14:31] <Selbram> K3V1N8700, yes
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#1291 [14:31] <K3V1N8700> okay that explains alot
#1292 [14:32] <Jollykabuto21> no i have a mincraft server in there thats it...
#1293 [14:32] <Jollykabuto21> its not even a folder
#1294 [14:32] <Selbram> Jollykabuto21, umm
#1295 [14:32] <frostic> ok the issues im having are very odd. i have 5 elaberate traps that i made when 4 of them are running 1 will not if i disable the 4 the other trap starts working. is there a limit to how many traps that can be active at the same time?
#1296 [14:33] <Selbram> Jollykabuto21, if you browse to %appdata%/.minecraft/bin that is your single player directory
#1297 [14:33] <Selbram> or your client directory
#1298 [14:34] <Selbram> unless you ran your server from the .minecraft directory (unlikely) this is where all your local saves and stuff are located
#1299 [14:34] <Jollykabuto21> i dont see it
#1300 [14:35] <Selbram> You are definitly running windows 7?
#1301 [14:35] <Jollykabuto21> yes
#1302 [14:35] <Selbram> open a file browser
#1303 [14:35] <Jollykabuto21> k
#1304 [14:35] <Jollykabuto21> now what
#1305 [14:35] <Selbram> in the address bar replace everything with %appdata%
#1306 [14:36] <Selbram> the % have to be there
#1307 [14:36] <Selbram> when you press enter it should change to username > Appdata > Roaming
#1308 [14:36] <Jollykabuto21> k now what
#1309 [14:36] <Jollykabuto21> yes
#1310 [14:36] <Selbram> the very top folder should be .minecraftr
#1311 [14:37] <Jollykabuto21> not there
#1312 [14:37] <Jollykabuto21> theres a minecraft server but no folder
#1313 [14:37] <Selbram> okay, click the organize button on the top left of the window and then click folder and search options
#1314 [14:37] <Selbram> then click the view tab
#1315 [14:38] <Selbram> then find the "Show hidden folder etc" and select it and hit ok
#1316 [14:38] <Jollykabuto21> now what
#1317 [14:38] <Selbram> do you see .minecraft now?
#1318 [14:38] <Jollykabuto21> nopw
#1319 [14:39] <frostic> Jollykabuto21: do you have skype?
#1320 [14:39] <Selbram> do you have any folders with . in front of them
#1321 [14:39] <Jollykabuto21> noep
#1322 [14:40] <Selbram> And you can run the minecraft client
#1323 [14:40] <Jollykabuto21> yes
#1324 [14:40] <Selbram> may I PM you
#1325 [14:41] <Jollykabuto21> whats that mean
#1326 [14:41] <Selbram> Private message
#1327 [14:41] <frostic> private message
#1328 [14:41] <Jollykabuto21> sure
#1329 [14:41] <Jollykabuto21> how do you do that?
#1330 [14:41] <Selbram> you should get a new top near the top of your chat screen
#1331 [14:41] <Jollykabuto21> k
#1332 [14:42] <Selbram> Look for it now :) I sent you a message. Should be on the top of your screen with my name in it.
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#1335 [14:45] <frostic> ok the issues im having are very odd. i have 5 elaberate traps that i made when 4 of them are running 1 will not if i disable the 4 the other trap starts working. is there a limit to how many traps that can be active at the same time?
#1336 [14:45] <Selbram> no
#1337 [14:46] <Selbram> and by elaberate traps do you mean redstone contraptions?
#1338 [14:46] <frostic> yes
#1339 [14:46] <Selbram> there is no limit
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#1341 [14:46] <Selbram> they might be conflicting with each other though
#1342 [14:47] <frostic> then why only 4 can be active at the same time?. they are not even touching and are very far apart
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#1348 [14:51] <Vbabe> I just tried to purchase the game and it said that it does not allow Illinois residents to register. That's crazy because several people in the neighborhood has the game. What's up here? Why is this so hard to get? We are on our 4 attempt in 3 weeks
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#1351 [14:52] <Vbabe> I am waiting. Any response????
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#1353 [14:52] <Deas> yeah, just one. calm down!
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#1355 [14:52] <Deas> and he left
#1356 [14:53] <kajovajo> Hello. I would like to ask you for help. I bought a payed version of minecraft for my son approximately a year ago. Since then, he's been enjoying the game very much. However lately he has been having problems with single player games. The single player world simply doesn't save any changes made to the terrain. I tried to delete the %APPDATA%
#1357 [14:53] <kajovajo> .minecraft folder and download a new clear version of the client from the minecraft.net website
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#1359 [14:53] <kajovajo> however it doesn't help.
#1360 [14:54] <Deas> kajovajo: any recent updates to java? like, let say java 7?
#1361 [14:54] <kajovajo> Could you please help me or at least tell me how to contact mojang?
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#1363 [14:54] <kajovajo> to Deas: I opened control panel and clicked on Java there, and i updated to the latest version
#1364 [14:54] <kajovajo> to Deas: I will check now what version it is.
#1365 [14:55] <kajovajo> to Deas: version 6 update 37 (build 1.6.0_37-b06)
#1366 [14:55] <Deas> kajovajo: which minecraft version are we talking about?
#1367 [14:56] <kajovajo> the latest - 1.4.2. I just downloaded it from the official website.
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#1371 [14:58] <K3V1N8700> selbarm
#1372 [14:58] <K3V1N8700> selbramØ
#1373 [14:58] <K3V1N8700> selbram
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#1375 [14:59] <kajovajo> The first thing I tried was forums. The only thing i found was an advice to run the file in compatibility mode. it didn't help. Then I decided to contact the minecraft support, but even after migrating the account and logging into help.ojang.com i still can't find an email address to write to.
#1376 [15:00] <Deas> kajovajo: try http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1377 [15:00] <frostic> kajovajo: wat problem are you having?
#1378 [15:00] <Deas> seems irrelevent for your issue but i'm sure you would still get in contact
#1379 [15:01] <Deas> frostic: singleplayer world doesnt save in new mc version @ kajovajo
#1380 [15:01] <kajovajo> Thank you I will try that.
#1381 [15:01] <frostic> Deas: ouch
#1382 [15:01] <kajovajo> yes, that is correct. Singleplayer world does not save. The version is 1.4.2. the client si vanilla.
#1383 [15:02] <kajovajo> Just out of curiosity: do you guys have any clue what might be the cause?
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#1385 [15:02] <har> having trouble with new account, password and log in
#1386 [15:02] <frostic> kajovajo: did you try deleting .minecraft folder and redownloading it?
#1387 [15:03] <frostic> could have gotten corrupted while it was updating
#1388 [15:03] <har> deleting from where
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#1390 [15:03] <kajovajo> Yes, i tried that. I deleted the whole .minecraft folder in %appdata% and downlaoded a vanilla client form official website.
#1391 [15:03] <frostic> har im talking to kajovajo
#1392 [15:04] <frostic> kajovajo: wat os you have? and do you have admin privlages?
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#1394 [15:05] <brock> my servers wont work after my online ip changed
#1395 [15:06] <kajovajo> to frostic: The operating system is Windows XP Professional. The user under which my son plays has admin privilidges.
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#1398 [15:06] <har_> purchased new minecraft prepaid card.cannot log in
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#1400 [15:07] <frostic> hmm. maybe because its xp but i dont know. sorry i cant help you
#1401 [15:07] <frostic> har_ wat is your account name?
#1402 [15:08] <har_> Lagging_
#1403 [15:08] <frostic> !paid laggin_
#1404 [15:08] <frostic> errr
#1405 [15:08] <oldtopman> !quiet
#1406 [15:08] <oldtopman> ...
#1407 [15:08] <frostic> !paid lagging_
#1408 [15:08] <oldtopman> AuBot: y u so lag
#1409 [15:09] <har_> Lagging_
#1410 [15:09] <frostic> wow bot you are lagging bad
#1411 [15:09] <har_> just bought it from bestbuy
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#1413 [15:11] <lan> i regestered for minecraft, but did not have the game
#1414 [15:11] <brock> hello?
#1415 [15:12] <lan> when i regestered for a mojang account, it said do you want to use a previous account name, i clicked no and changed my name that will appear in the game
#1416 [15:13] <frostic> from best buy? i thought this game is only able to be purchased online. sorry i dont know how to help you har_ just wait and type /msg aubot !paid <usernamehere>
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#1418 [15:14] <frostic> Ian did you migrate your account?
#1419 [15:15] <brock> can i get server help here or not ?
#1420 [15:15] <frostic> brock: what do you mean server help?
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#1422 [15:15] <frostic> !paid lagging_
#1423 [15:15] <brock> my servers wont work after my online ip changed
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#1425 [15:16] <frostic> ok i can try to help with that
#1426 [15:16] <brock> thank you
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#1428 [15:16] <brock> just let me know what you need me to do
#1429 [15:17] <frostic> do you mean your router gave you a new internal ip or your external ip changed?
#1430 [15:17] <brock> i belive the external ip changed
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#1432 [15:18] <frostic> brock: are you using a dns updater and giving ppl the donain? or they connecting via your external ip?
#1433 [15:19] <brock> they just connect via the external ip
#1434 [15:20] <frostic> brock: can you open cmd and type ipconfig/all and find the ipv4 ip address write it down. we will check that your internal ip has not changed
#1435 [15:21] <brock> 192.168.1.5
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#1437 [15:22] <frostic> i didnt need to see that but ok yes now open your router to check your port forwarding shows this same ip
#1438 [15:22] <brock> ok it does
#1439 [15:25] <frostic> brock: goto http://www.canyouseeme.org/ type in the port that your server uses and see if the port is properly opened
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#1442 [15:26] <brock> i typed in 25565 and it says it can't see me
#1443 [15:26] <frostic> then your portforwarding is not correct
#1444 [15:27] <brock> well how might i fix that
#1445 [15:27] <frostic> brock: can you screenshot your portforwarding so i can see what you have so i can make sure its done properly?
#1446 [15:27] <brock> ok
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#1451 [15:32] <brock> how do i put the screen shot into the message bar
#1452 [15:32] <frostic> upload it to an image host then paste the direct link in here
#1453 [15:33] <frostic> try tinypic.com or imageshack.us
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#1455 [15:34] <brock> http://postimage.org/image/x4auqw4ph/
#1456 [15:34] <brock> that should work
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#1458 [15:35] <frostic> yes this should work try setting protocol to both
#1459 [15:35] <brock> one second
#1460 [15:36] <brock> ok i changed it to both
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#1463 [15:37] <frostic> brock: goto http://www.canyouseeme.org/ type in the port and see if it opened now
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#1465 [15:38] <brock> ok and it still says it cant
#1466 [15:38] <frostic> did you activate the service in the router?
#1467 [15:39] <brock> how would i do that
#1468 [15:39] <Deas> brock: make sure the minecraft server is running while you do the canyouseeme.org
#1469 [15:40] <frostic> click apply then log off your router
#1470 [15:40] <frostic> do as Deas just said also
#1471 [15:41] <brock> ok i did all of that but it still says it cant see me
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#1473 [15:42] <Deas> we should just try to connect to his server instead, i'm not sure how reliable that website is ^^;
#1474 [15:42] <Krusher> Hey. when i try to log in to the Minecraft launcher, it says "can't connect to minecraft.net". i am able to log in from another computer. i cannot find anything within my antivirus of firewall that would block it. i can play in the browser at minecraft.net. any suggestions?
#1475 [15:43] <Krusher> or*
#1476 [15:43] <brock> i have log me in if you guys want to try and use that to see my computer
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#1478 [15:43] <Deas> brock: don't be lazy (:
#1479 [15:43] <frostic> brock: pm me your ip address of your server
#1480 [15:44] <brock> how do i do that
#1481 [15:44] <frostic> do /msg frostic ip.here
#1482 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Krusher - Has it ever worked before?
#1483 [15:45] <Krusher> yes it has.
#1484 [15:45] <Krusher> it became like this a while ago
#1485 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Krusher - Do you get a news feed in the launcher?
#1486 [15:46] <Krusher> yes i do
#1487 [15:46] <frostic> brock: its not letting me connect. your port is not open.
#1488 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Krusher - What do you see when you go to: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#1489 [15:47] <Krusher> "bad login"
#1490 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that's right.
#1491 [15:47] <frostic> brock: did your server work befor?
#1492 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Krusher - Are you sure you disabled your firewall?
#1493 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Or allowed minecraft through correctly?
#1494 [15:47] <Krusher> i'llcheck again
#1495 [15:47] <morgancentral> could some one test out a server i just got ported and it wont let me connect through minecraft client
#1496 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> ;check morgancentral
#1497 [15:48] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 205.245.177.155:25565 (Timed out)
#1498 [15:48] <brock> yes it did i have been running it for about a year then my online ip changed and it stopped working
#1499 [15:48] <morgancentral> ?
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#1501 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> No server detected running at your ip address morgancentral
#1502 [15:48] <Krusher> my firewall is diabled
#1503 [15:48] <frostic> brock: same question do you have a firewall running?
#1504 [15:48] <harl> user name and password mix up and log in problem
#1505 [15:49] <morgancentral> this is mine
#1506 [15:49] <morgancentral> um thats not mine
#1507 [15:49] <morgancentral> 192.168.1.50
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#1509 [15:49] <brock> no and i disabled the one on my router
#1510 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.1.50 is a private internal ip address. It cannot be reached from the outside
#1511 [15:49] <morgancentral> ive tryed everything but did not work
#1512 [15:51] <frostic> brock: ok you might think im stupid but here is my experience in the last 2 weeks. call your isp and ask if they are blocking the port. as my isp blocked all my ports and now want money to open them back up
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#1514 [15:53] <brock> ok that will take about an hour do you have any way i can reach you faster
#1515 [15:53] <harl> password and username mix up...cannot log in
#1516 [15:53] <frostic> morgancentral: to get your ip you need to goto www.whatismyip.com that will tell you the ip ppl will use to connect to your server etc
#1517 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> harl - Try resetting it from http://minecraft.net/resetpassword
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#1519 [15:53] <morgancentral> can i reload the propretys and ands not stop the server
#1520 [15:53] <Deas> brock: try hosting the server on port 80 :)
#1521 [15:54] <harl> we have tried that
#1522 [15:54] <frostic> brock: add me on skype if you want im the.wikkedclown
#1523 [15:54] <Deas> brock: you can change the port adress in the server.properties
#1524 [15:54] <Deas> don't forget to change it in the router
#1525 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> harl - Then contact Mojang proper with your transaction ID: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#1527 [15:54] <Krusher> My firewall is completely diabled now, and nothing is different
#1528 [15:54] <frostic> yes good idea Deas i didnt think of that lol
#1529 [15:54] <brock> ok one moment
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#1531 [15:56] <Deas> brock & frostic: ISPs can't block port 80 (http) and 443 (https) because it's the ports the webrowsers uses for comunicate ( don't worry, it wont affect your browsing, unless your hosting a website from home haha :p)
#1532 [15:57] <frostic> um yes they can block port 80
#1533 [15:57] <frostic> mine is blocked
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#1535 [15:57] <Deas> ok well, 80 then but not 443
#1536 [15:57] <frostic> yes but i doubt you can run it on 443 :p
#1537 [15:57] <morgancentral> is this the ip you can find= 205.245.177.155
#1538 [15:58] <Deas> i undoubt your doubt because i've ran things on 443 from work
#1539 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes morgancentral.
#1540 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> ;check morgancentral
#1541 [15:58] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 205.245.177.155:25565 (Timed out)
#1542 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> As you can see, we can detect no server running on that ip address
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#1544 [15:59] <morgancentral> i still cant reach the server throgh localhost and 205.245.177.155
#1545 [15:59] <Deas> GreyVulpine: learn your bots to respond to "help" in query :3
#1546 [15:59] <frostic> ok imma try to open 443 if so i can host my own server :D
#1547 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Deas - That's a nice idea. I don't run Wugbot.
#1548 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> I wonder who Wugbot belongs to
#1549 [15:59] <Deas> GreyVulpine: but you run GreyBot ?
#1550 [15:59] <brock> and minecraft.net is down
#1551 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Ah, but I do.
#1552 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> And I don't have privately accessible commands through greybot.
#1553 [16:01] <frostic> ;check brock
#1554 [16:01] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: S0106bcaec5eb508d.cg.shawcable.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1555 [16:01] <frostic> thats uber
#1556 [16:01] <Deas> well... that's one form of ISP-ip haha
#1557 [16:02] <brock> so port 80 deosnt work
#1558 [16:02] <Deas> brock: my misstake, use 443
#1559 [16:02] <Deas> ;check S0106bcaec5eb508d.cg.shawcable.net:443
#1560 [16:02] <WugBot> S0106bcaec5eb508d.cg.shawcable.net:443 does not host a minecraft server.
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#1562 [16:03] <frostic> and guess wat
#1563 [16:04] <frostic> they are blocking 443 too :(
#1564 [16:04] <Deas> that's... just weird
#1565 [16:04] <brock> ya my isp is blocking 443 and 80
#1566 [16:04] <Boreeas> What
#1567 [16:04] <Boreeas> Why would they
#1568 [16:04] <frostic> ya ikr. they want $147 to open port 80 hahahaha lame
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#1570 [16:05] <Boreeas> What ports /are/ open?
#1571 [16:05] <Deas> frostic: time to change ISP if they do not allow you to use the internet freely
#1572 [16:05] <Boreeas> That, too
#1573 [16:05] <Scott> Many ISPs block ports like 80, 443, 25, etc.
#1574 [16:05] <frostic> all ports are blocked on my isp
#1575 [16:05] <Scott> If you want to host servers, get a business connection.
#1576 [16:05] <Boreeas> Thats... stupid
#1577 [16:05] <Scott> You signed an agreement stating you wouldn't.
#1578 [16:05] <frostic> yes Scott is right
#1579 [16:06] <Deas> both of you are just crazy, but i think Scott is crazier for thinking that we should get a buzcon to use the internet
#1580 [16:06] <frostic> brock: ok now that you know its not opening ports call your isp and ask why the port wont open
#1581 [16:06] <Boreeas> It's still stupid by the ISP. Who would want to spend massive amounts of money on a business connection to host for example a game server
#1582 [16:07] <Scott> It doesn't matter. When you signed up for that connection, you more than likely agreed to an acceptable use policy.
#1583 [16:07] <Scott> Nearly all of them clearly state you aren't allowed to host servers of any kind.
#1584 [16:07] <frostic> yes its lame but its the only service provider in my area
#1585 [16:07] <Deas> Boreeas: you'd be suprised on how many rent a gameserver ;)
#1586 [16:07] <Scott> I'm not saying I agree with it but it's legal and you agreed to it.
#1587 [16:07] <Boreeas> Deas: Of course, which is a good idea anyway, but you shouldn't be forced to do it
#1588 [16:08] <morgancentral> it still cant find the server
#1589 [16:08] <frostic> im buying hosting on nov 1st for my server hehe
#1590 [16:08] <morgancentral> 205.245.177.155 and cant find it
#1591 [16:08] <Scott> frostic: Have you decided on a host yet?
#1592 [16:08] <Boreeas> frostic: Want a free one?
#1593 [16:09] <morgancentral> i want a free one xD
#1594 [16:09] <Deas> Scott: i'm well aware of it's legal for them to do so, but it's greedy as f and it does lock you out from a lot of things when it comes to networking and internet fundation
#1595 [16:09] <Scott> Well you agree to it when you sign up.
#1596 [16:10] <Boreeas> Scott: Yeah, because you have no real other choice
#1597 [16:10] <Scott> I have hard time finding any sympathy when you agree to something.
#1598 [16:10] <Scott> Sure you do. There are many ISPs.
#1599 [16:10] <Boreeas> We are not talking about legality, but about morality here
#1600 [16:10] <Deas> it's like getting a bank account, they shove you 100000 documents to agree on, there's no way you can read it all
#1601 [16:10] <Scott> And ISPs also offer business connections without such restrictions.
#1602 [16:10] <frostic> im not sure i found this one called daddycheese and it has the lowest price i found for wat i want
#1603 [16:10] <Boreeas> Scott: And how expensive are those connections?
#1604 [16:10] <Scott> Depends on how fast you get.
#1605 [16:10] <Scott> They're usually not much higher.
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#1607 [16:11] <Scott> You have to keep in mind that someone hosting a server is going to use more data than a grandma sending emails.
#1608 [16:11] <frostic> And ISPs also offer business connections without such restrictions. <-------- they want $147 a month for this lol
#1609 [16:11] <Boreeas> That's what bandwith restrictions are for
#1610 [16:11] <Scott> frostic: I work for AllGamer.net. You should check us out if you haven't. :D
#1611 [16:12] <Deas> my senses tells me that Scott is someone who work to get paid by doing something software/computerish and hates pirating because he loses money of it
#1612 [16:12] <Deas> but that is a major wild guess :D
#1613 [16:12] <morgancentral> dose someone who has skype can help me
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#1615 [16:12] <Scott> I don't care if you pirate or not.
#1616 [16:12] <Boreeas> Deas: Unless you are self-employed, you probably won't care about piracy
#1617 [16:12] <Scott> And what does that even have to do with this?
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#1619 [16:12] <Deas> morgancentral: we are all here to help out, speak out !
#1620 [16:12] <JMayhill> Hello
#1621 [16:13] <JMayhill> I ned help with a LAN server
#1622 [16:13] <JMayhill> need*
#1623 [16:13] <Deas> Scott: no idea, does it brother you that i brought it up?
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#1625 [16:13] <frostic> closd the wrong window lol
#1626 [16:13] <Scott> As I said, I don't care if you pirate or not but it's illegal. :)
#1627 [16:13] <Deas> JMayhill: name your issue and your problem may be go away
#1628 [16:14] <Scott> I don't benefit from whether you buy software or not lol
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#1630 [16:14] <morgancentral> 205.245.177.155
#1631 [16:14] <JMayhill> I tried to connect to my friends LAN server and it said, "Java.net.SocketException: Permission Denied: Connect
#1632 [16:14] <JMayhill> "
#1633 [16:15] <Deas> JMayhill: are you behind a proxy or similar?
#1634 [16:15] <JMayhill> I Dont know what that is
#1635 [16:15] <Deas> ;check 205.245.177.155
#1636 [16:15] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 205.245.177.155:25565 (Timed out)
#1637 [16:16] <Boreeas> frostic: Well, I have a mostly unused private server. Depending on how large you plan to make your server, I an probably give you access to it
#1638 [16:16] <morgancentral> i cant connect on my local or 205.245.177.155
#1639 [16:17] <Deas> morgancentral: post the log of the mcserver
#1640 [16:17] <Deas> thu pastebin or similar service
#1641 [16:17] <morgancentral> how?
#1642 [16:17] <Deas> copy/paste
#1643 [16:17] <JMayhill> How do i fix it?
#1644 [16:17] <morgancentral> oh ok
#1645 [16:18] <Deas> JMayhill: what do you do when you try to connect to this server?
#1646 [16:18] <Deas> JMayhill: are you on the same network, etc
#1647 [16:19] <JMayhill> It says," Failed to connect to server, Java.net.SocketException: Permission Denied: Connect"
#1648 [16:19] <JMayhill> Yes
#1649 [16:19] <frostic> well lets put it this way my map is already 2gig and i need 100+ slots and i only got $70 a month to spend
#1650 [16:19] <morgancentral> it crashed and no LOG ;/
#1651 [16:20] <Deas> well, if it crashes, there's your first problem :D
#1652 [16:21] <morgancentral> xD someone tryed to log in and i crashed the seserver
#1653 [16:21] <Deas> frostic: you don't need 100+ slots, you'll never have that many on at the same time
#1654 [16:21] <Boreeas> frostic: Oh, alright, that's a little larger than what I can supply
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#1656 [16:21] <Boreeas> Deas: I know someone that admins a server that has peaks of >50 people
#1657 [16:22] <frostic> i know a server that has 100 slots and its allways full
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#1659 [16:22] <Morgaancentral> Back
#1660 [16:22] <Deas> frostic: well yes, it's a poplar server, but it's hard to make it that popular unless your some sort of youtube famus guy or likewise
#1661 [16:23] <Morgaancentral> It's not working right
#1662 [16:23] <JMayhill> Proxy?
#1663 [16:24] <Deas> JMayhill: google is your friend, i'm afraid. i would probably just confuse you even more trying to explain what a proxy is.
#1664 [16:25] <JMayhill> No I know hat a proxy is. I need to figure out how to allow him past my firewall
#1665 [16:25] <Boreeas> frostic: If you are comfortable with linux and it's command line, you may want to get some vserver at a hoster, where you often get better hardware for the same price, add the added costs of having to maintain the OS yourself
#1666 [16:25] <JMayhill> what*
#1667 [16:25] <AG_Clinton> frostic: What's your average users?
#1668 [16:26] <Morgaancentral> Lol I put 2 a's
#1669 [16:26] <Morgaancentral> Can you kick me fast
#1670 [16:26] <Morgaancentral> Brb fixing name
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#1673 [16:27] <Deas> JMayhill: i thought you where trying to connect to his server?
#1674 [16:28] <Morgancentral> I'm reloading the server
#1675 [16:30] <Morgancentral> It's still not finding the server on both local host and the other ip
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#1677 [16:31] <Morgancentral> Can you try to see if you can find it
#1678 [16:31] <Morgancentral> Brb
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#1680 [16:34] <Morgancentral> Back
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#1685 [16:46] <Kis> Guys
#1686 [16:46] <Kis> I need help
#1687 [16:47] <Kis> Anybody have experience with Minecraft Classic / 800craft?
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#1692 [16:54] <frostic> need help
#1693 [16:55] <frostic> my pc just crashed bsod when i joined a server. now my server list is empty and my saved games all have vanished?
#1694 [16:56] <frostic> the saved games folder is still there but minecraft is not showing them anyone know wat to do?
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#1697 [17:06] <matagin> anyone know how to do colored MOTDs for the server list?
#1698 [17:06] <matagin> i tried color codes in server.properties motd but they don't seem to work
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#1702 [17:14] <gmonster> hi
#1703 [17:15] <gmonster> i am wondering i just bought a card for minecraft and i went in a got it and when i tried to login after i did the run thing it wouldnt log me in
#1704 [17:16] <gmonster> support
#1705 [17:16] <gmonster> support
#1706 [17:16] <gmonster> support
#1707 [17:16] <gmonster> support
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#1709 [17:17] <NinjaKirby> RENDER
#1710 [17:17] <NinjaKirby> He went in a got it, guys, went in a got it.
#1711 [17:17] <NinjaKirby> And did the run thing, yep.
#1712 [17:17] <frostic> how are these ppl buying cards? you must purchase online
#1713 [17:18] <puffrfish> frostic: http://minecraft.net/prepaid
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#1715 [17:19] <DiskDaemon> frostic: Please see http://minecraft.net/prepaid
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#1717 [17:19] <frostic> except 1 thing NO store sells the cards for pc the cards you buy are for xbox only for xbox 360 :P
#1718 [17:19] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, dear me
#1719 [17:19] <puffrfish> the cards are for the PC version frostic
#1720 [17:20] <DiskDaemon> frostic: Walmart, Target and Best Buy sell official Minecraft cards that are for the PC, not the xbox
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#1722 [17:20] <frostic> dude i called every store within 150 miles of my house and they all said they dont sell cards for pc only for xbox
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#1724 [17:21] <DiskDaemon> frostic: It's not being done nationwide as of yet, but it is being done
#1725 [17:22] <puffrfish> DiskDaemon: did you get my PM the other day?
#1726 [17:22] <frostic> not 1 store from ohio,indiana,and kentucky has such cards
#1727 [17:23] <DiskDaemon> not likely - it may have ended up in a porn channel - which is a part of why pm'img me is next to useless
#1728 [17:24] <DiskDaemon> frostic: Call head-office then - that's not good enough
#1729 [17:24] <puffrfish> well, I didn't really want to post it publicly
#1730 [17:24] <frostic> that sucks man i had to use a creditcard to buy mine. they need to get it in all stores lazy %^#$%#%#%holes D:
#1731 [17:25] <DiskDaemon> frostic: Please keep it civil
#1732 [17:25] <frostic> i did keep it civil why you think i typed %&$%^*%
#1733 [17:25] <DiskDaemon> Even if the bots don't understand, us humans do - and we can do something about it too if need be
#1734 [17:30] <puffrfish> DiskDaemon: http://pastebin.com/tgs2PeX3
#1735 [17:31] <DiskDaemon> puffrfish: Good one, such clarafication is beneficial to have
#1736 [17:31] <puffrfish> it's still up to the channel staff of course, for anyone watching
#1737 [17:32] <Morrolan> Right, I totally needed permission from Mojang to link to their publicly available content. <.<
#1738 [17:33] <Morrolan> Now I'll sleep much better!
#1739 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> The debate was on whether it was public or not, due to there being no public web pages that link to those mojang files
#1740 [17:33] <oldtopman> Which mojang files?
#1741 [17:34] <DiskDaemon> old versions of minecraft.jar for example
#1742 [17:34] <Morrolan> If the webserver willingly saves those files, it's public.
#1743 [17:34] <Morrolan> If you'd have to supply it with a hash of the user's password or whatever, then it wouldn't be.
#1744 [17:34] <Morrolan> But eh, not that it matters anymore.
#1745 [17:34] <DiskDaemon> That's good to know
#1746 [17:34] <frostic> personally i think if ppl need the files they should be pointed to mojang
#1747 [17:35] <puffrfish> it's just a courtesy to get their permission first, but I'd like to encourage people to get it from mojang rather than going and getting jars filled with who knows what else
#1748 [17:35] <Morrolan> No doubt about that.
#1749 [17:35] <frostic> thats wat im saying^^
#1750 [17:35] <Morrolan> The second part, anyway.
#1751 [17:35] <puffrfish> and McNostalgia, while nice, is just not the same
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#1753 [17:36] <Morrolan> The reason that there is a tool like McNostalgia is, that, up to a few weeks ago, those files weren't publicly available, after all. :)
#1754 [17:36] <Morrolan> Chances are that its author won't bother to provider diff patches anymore.
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#1756 [17:36] <DiskDaemon> I find that mcnostalgia is highly beneficial in that it provides access to every earlier version of Minecraft, while having the official "meh" from Mojang themself too :)
#1757 [17:36] <mokrosuhi89> HI, I just buy my minecraft and after 10min od playing it's get freezd! Help pls
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#1759 [17:37] <Diplomat> maybe your video card sucks ?
#1760 [17:37] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - The nice thing with McNostalgia is that it has diff patches going back all the way, yea. :)
#1761 [17:37] <frostic> now a bot that you can type !get v1.0 or !get v1.4.0 and it give them a link to the mojang site would be kinda cool
#1762 [17:37] <Morrolan> There's entries in Vox, frostic.
#1763 [17:37] <Morrolan> At least I made one for 1.3.2. We should agree on a naming convention, though, before we end up with three entries per version. ^^
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#1765 [17:38] <frostic> ok but noone knows this when they come
#1766 [17:38] <DiskDaemon> ??< index
#1767 [17:38] <Morrolan> (v/1.3.2)
#1768 [17:38] <DiskDaemon> ?? v/1.3.2
#1769 [17:38] <VoxelHead> v/1.3.2: Minecraft 1.3.2 binaries can be found on: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar
#1770 [17:38] <frostic> nice
#1771 [17:39] <frostic> maybe the bot should message ppl with a command list as they enter. i did not know that bot has this type of commands
#1772 [17:40] <DiskDaemon> Morrolan: There being no other conflicting pattern at the moment, I see no reason why we can't go with that
#1773 [17:40] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Okay. :)
#1774 [17:40] <frostic> like have it say welcome to the server type !help for commands etc :D
#1775 [17:40] <Morrolan> frostic - Only very few of the bot's commands are useful for those needing help.
#1776 [17:41] <frostic> yes but still would be nice to know about the commands normal users can use
#1777 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> It would result in much spammage.
#1778 [17:41] <Morrolan> If you stay in here long enough you'll pick up on them. ;)
#1779 [17:42] <frostic> have the commands be in a pm etc so there is no spam
#1780 [17:42] <Morrolan> Spammage by the users.
#1781 [17:42] <Morrolan> Every now and then two or three people enjoy the !check and !paid commands a bit too much. ;)
#1782 [17:43] <DiskDaemon> frostic: The other problem is that people tend to abuse the bots through experimenting with them
#1783 [17:43] <frostic> ya make it like to use a command type /msg botnick <command>
#1784 [17:43] <DiskDaemon> Now that idea I can fully get behind. mcpbot does the /msg thing, and it's highly useful
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#1786 [17:43] <Morrolan> I don't even know which bots respond to PMs. :S
#1787 [17:44] <Morrolan> Vox does for some commands only. AuBot, uh, doesn't, as far as I'm aware.
#1788 [17:44] <Morrolan> I stand corrected, he does.
#1789 [17:45] <frostic> aubot works in pm
#1790 [17:45] <DiskDaemon> The availability of information on such things might want to be looked in to
#1791 [17:45] <frostic> ^^
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#1793 [17:46] <frostic> i used to write bots for irc but its been about 10 years since i did. im a bit rusty and would fail to write noe now lol
#1794 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> I'm not going to force anything from anybody here. If the various bot owners want to do that on their own time, it's up to them.
#1795 [17:46] <BL00DB0LT> hi
#1796 [17:46] <DiskDaemon> It took me some time to convnce people that the mcpbot wiki page should feature the /msg method of accepting commands as a priority over and above other more public techniques that then existed, for example
#1797 [17:47] <frostic> BL00DB0LT: hello
#1798 [17:47] <BL00DB0LT> Im having a problem
#1799 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> I haven't touched Greybot in probably over 7 years, and will probably never get around to doing a !help command
#1800 [17:47] <BL00DB0LT> with minecraft
#1801 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> BL00DB0LT - Could you elaborate on your problem?
#1802 [17:47] <frostic> BL00DB0LT: please explain to us we will try to help if we can
#1803 [17:47] <BL00DB0LT> yes
#1804 [17:48] <BL00DB0LT> I tried the fullscreen in it and now i can't see anything
#1805 [17:48] <frostic> you need better gfx card i believe
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#1807 [17:48] <BL00DB0LT> The game still plays but its just blank
#1808 [17:48] <frostic> i had the same issue till i got a new card
#1809 [17:48] <BL00DB0LT> HOw can i fix this
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#1811 [17:49] <Morrolan> BL00DB0LT - F11 will disable fullscreen mode again.
#1812 [17:49] <Morrolan> Alternatively, if that doesn't work, you could go and edit the configuration file manually.
#1813 [17:49] <BL00DB0LT> i did that quite a couple of times and it did not work
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#1815 [17:49] <Morrolan> Odd. What operating system are you on? (Windows, Mac, Linux)
#1816 [17:50] <BL00DB0LT> windows
#1817 [17:50] <Morrolan> Navigate to %appdata%\.minecraft and open options.txt with a texteditor.
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#1819 [17:50] <Morrolan> Then change fullscreen:true to fullscreen:false
#1820 [17:50] <Whatshiywl> duh... i'v got a problem xD I can't seem to be able to connect to servers anymore. I can only connect to my local server. I can still play single player tho. both are true when using java 6 and 7
#1821 [17:50] <Morrolan> Save the file, and start Minecraft again.
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#1823 [17:50] <Morrolan> BL00DB0LT - Oh, before you edit that file, shut Minecraft down.
#1824 [17:51] <Whatshiywl> the message I get uppon attempting to log in is the following: Failed to login: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect
#1825 [17:51] <Slate> Hello, just have a quick question, recently i uploaded a new mc character skin and it uploaded successfully and on the servers, it shows up, however on my enjin website, the 3d model shows the OLD face from the previous skin, however in the full model on the website it shows my correct skin, anyone know what i should do?
#1826 [17:51] <BL00DB0LT> alrite i'll try
#1827 [17:51] <Morrolan> Whatshiywl - Did you update to 1.4.2 already?
#1828 [17:51] <Whatshiywl> nope
#1829 [17:51] <BL00DB0LT> yes
#1830 [17:51] <Whatshiywl> and all the servers i'm trying to connect are 1.3.2
#1831 [17:51] <Morrolan> Whatshiywl - Then please try to connect to minecraft.lethal-zone.eu so we can rule out that it's an issue with you, and not one with the servers you tried to connect to.
#1832 [17:52] <Whatshiywl> ok one sec
#1833 [17:52] <Whatshiywl> does it matter if it's java 6 or 7?
#1834 [17:52] <Morrolan> Shouldn't.
#1835 [17:53] <Whatshiywl> ok trying with 6
#1836 [17:53] <frostic> id install 7 its most recent
#1837 [17:53] <Morrolan> For Minecraft I'd use Java 6.
#1838 [17:53] <Whatshiywl> i'v tried both
#1839 [17:53] <Whatshiywl> and yeah it just gave me that error again
#1840 [17:54] <Morrolan> Yea, I saw you loose conection in the console. Are you running any security software which might block you?
#1841 [17:54] <Whatshiywl> no i'm not
#1842 [17:55] <BL00DB0LT> I not sure how to do what what you told me
#1843 [17:55] <Morrolan> BL00DB0LT - Where are you stuck at, currently?
#1844 [17:55] <Whatshiywl> trying with java 7
#1845 [17:55] <BL00DB0LT> well i log in it shows Mojang and then turns black
#1846 [17:55] <Whatshiywl> fail
#1847 [17:56] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - Ever heard of a firewall blocking connection to an SMP server?
#1848 [17:56] <Morrolan> BL00DB0LT - Did you edit the options file already?
#1849 [17:57] <BL00DB0LT> i can't see anything
#1850 [17:57] <Morrolan> BL00DB0LT - I take that as a no.
#1851 [17:57] <Morrolan> BL00DB0LT - Close Minecraft, for now.
#1852 [17:57] <BL00DB0LT> well iv been turning my computer on and off
#1853 [17:58] <BL00DB0LT> and it won't change anything
#1854 [17:58] <frostic> BL00DB0LT: do ctrl+alt+delete open task manager locate minecraft on the processes tab and select it then click end task
#1855 [17:58] <BL00DB0LT> ok
#1856 [17:59] <frostic> tell us when minecraft is closed
#1857 [17:59] <BL00DB0LT> ok i see minecraft
#1858 [17:59] <Morrolan> Whatshiywl - Chances are that something between you, and the servers, is killing the connection.
#1859 [17:59] <Morrolan> Whatshiywl - Might be firewall, or even your ISP.
#1860 [18:00] <Morrolan> Whatshiywl - I am not entirely sure how to find out more, to be honest. :/
#1861 [18:00] <Morrolan> Suggest you idle in here some more, 'till someone else comes back.
#1862 [18:00] <Diplomat> dafuq is just did now
#1863 [18:00] <Whatshiywl> yeah imma do that. thanks a lot for yout time tho xD
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#1865 [18:01] <frostic> BL00DB0LT: is minecraft closed now?
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#1867 [18:01] <BL00DB0LT> no
#1868 [18:01] <BL00DB0LT> im doing it rite now
#1869 [18:01] <BL00DB0LT> its off
#1870 [18:02] <BL00DB0LT> now what
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#1872 [18:02] <frostic> ok wat version of windows you got?
#1873 [18:02] <DiskDaemon> Whatshiywl: Okay, connection timed out when trying to login? There can be some easily found solutions to that, which we can detemine from a screenshot of the launcher when the problem occurs
#1874 [18:02] <Morrolan> Doesn't matter, it's always in %appdata%\.minecraft, frostic. :)
#1875 [18:02] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Nope, connection timed out when connecting to a server.
#1876 [18:02] <frostic> thats not wat i mean morrolan
#1877 [18:02] <DiskDaemon> Morrolan: It's always there, unless they have special characters in their windows username in which case it's not :)
#1878 [18:03] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Which, in this case, we can rule out. ;)
#1879 [18:03] <frostic> BL00DB0LT: what version of windows you have?
#1880 [18:03] <BL00DB0LT> i don't know
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#1882 [18:03] <BL00DB0LT> but mc works on a regular basis
#1883 [18:04] <frostic> it there a button that says start or a round window logo?
#1884 [18:04] <Rhinoface> So my xbox map freezes after like 5 seconds..
#1885 [18:04] <Whatshiywl> http://i.imgur.com/g1e1a.png
#1886 [18:04] <Rhinoface> And freezes meh xbox
#1887 [18:04] <BL00DB0LT> until today i hit the fullscreen button in the options
#1888 [18:04] <Whatshiywl> DiskDaemon: ^
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#1890 [18:04] <DiskDaemon> Whatshiywl: Okay, when attempting to connect to a server, more information can be acquired which we can use to find out more on the issue, from http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1891 [18:04] <Rhinoface> So like. Anyone wanna help :D
#1892 [18:05] <Rhinoface> My xbox map freezes my xbox after 5 seconds
#1893 [18:05] <Rhinoface> And i cant do CRAP D:
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#1895 [18:05] <DiskDaemon> Rhinoface: Is it only that one world on which the map freezes, or does it occur on new worlds too?
#1896 [18:05] <Rhinoface> Just that one
#1897 [18:05] <Whatshiywl> ok i'll try those
#1898 [18:06] <DiskDaemon> Rhinoface: Then it sounds like something in that particular world may have become corrupt, for which I know of no xbox solution I'm afraid
#1899 [18:06] <frostic> BL00DB0LT: i was going to walk you through the steps of updating your graphic drivers but since you dont know what version of windows u got i cant tell you how to get to device manager so you can update the drivers
#1900 [18:06] <Rhinoface> Nooooooooooooooo T^T
#1901 [18:06] <BL00DB0LT> dang it
#1902 [18:07] <DiskDaemon> Whatshiywl: It's also possible that when you navigate in the world towards a certain area, that things go bad too. That's further confirmation that a part of the world is corrupt
#1903 [18:07] <BL00DB0LT> am i able to check it in the settings
#1904 [18:07] <BL00DB0LT> or about this computer
#1905 [18:07] <frostic> yes
#1906 [18:07] <BL00DB0LT> ok just a sec
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#1909 [18:08] <frostic> click start menu then click control panel select classic view then click system and it tells what os you have
#1910 [18:08] <Morrolan> *cough*dxdiag*cough*
#1911 [18:09] <BL00DB0LT> I cant seem to find about this computer
#1912 [18:09] <DiskDaemon> frostic: You can use: ??> username win/dxdiag
#1913 [18:10] <Whatshiywl> it happens on every server I have on my list. so it's not a corrupt world, unfortunately
#1914 [18:10] <frostic> ??> BL00DB0LT win/dxdiag
#1915 [18:10] <VoxelHead> BL00DB0LT: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1916 [18:10] <VoxelHead> BL00DB0LT: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1917 [18:10] <DiskDaemon> Whatshiywl: What I was waying wasn't to you in that regard. I provided you a link earlier to how to get a crash report from which we can attempt to help you further
#1918 [18:11] <BL00DB0LT> ????
#1919 [18:11] <frostic> do as it says
#1920 [18:11] <DiskDaemon> BL00DB0LT: Please follow VoxelHead's instructions
#1921 [18:11] <BL00DB0LT> ok ill try
#1922 [18:11] <BL00DB0LT> where do i put it
#1923 [18:12] <BL00DB0LT> where do i put win/dxdiag
#1924 [18:12] <Morrolan> Somewhere where you find it afterwards.
#1925 [18:12] <DiskDaemon> VoxelHead says to save it to your desktop, for example
#1926 [18:13] <Whatshiywl> i know i'm looking into that
#1927 [18:13] <DiskDaemon> that is, if by "it" you mean the text file of information that you get for the dxdiag report
#1928 [18:14] <BL00DB0LT> i think i got it
#1929 [18:15] <BL00DB0LT> what do i need for the info of my computer
#1930 [18:16] <Morrolan> What you do need to do, is follow Vox's instructions, step by step. :)
#1931 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> BL00DB0LT: Please provide all of the information from the file
#1932 [18:16] <BL00DB0LT> the processor is...
#1933 [18:16] <frostic> ok guys this is wat test i was going to do. first update his graphics drivers and update his directx and see if that helps. i had the same issue as him and come to find out it was that my graphics card did not have enough memory to support minecraft in fullscreen and would go black like it is on him
#1934 [18:17] <DiskDaemon> As VoxelHead says: "Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/"
#1935 [18:17] <BL00DB0LT> wait do i need processor or system type
#1936 [18:17] <Whatshiywl> DiskDaemon: well not like it's an error but, well, here it is: http://pastie.org/5125159
#1937 [18:18] <DiskDaemon> !check mc.nikaocraft.tk
#1938 [18:18] <DiskDaemon> Whatshiywl: Nothing else looks odd though, which is good to see
#1939 [18:19] <BL00DB0LT> the system trpe is 32 bit opperating system
#1940 [18:19] <DiskDaemon> Whatshiywl: If it's not a problem with Minecraft then that means the problem it from elsewhere, most likely in the form of some security program on your computer
#1941 [18:19] <Whatshiywl> lol didn't know i could do that O_o
#1942 [18:19] <frostic> BL00DB0LT: we need all of the info in the text that dxdiag generated
#1943 [18:19] <DiskDaemon> BL00DB0LT: Paste the entire contents to pastebin for us to look at
#1944 [18:19] <Whatshiywl> well i'll disable firewall completly but it worked yesterday so it's wierd :S
#1945 [18:20] <DiskDaemon> Whatshiywl: The intention is not to diable all your security for your entire future of online play, but just temporarily to determine what is actually causing the problem. Once the cause of the problem is found out, there are steps that can be taken to keep it active but to allow certain types of information through
#1946 [18:21] <BL00DB0LT> it won't allow me do drag and paste
#1947 [18:21] <DiskDaemon> BL00DB0LT: use copy/paste
#1948 [18:21] <BL00DB0LT> ok
#1949 [18:21] <DiskDaemon> BL00DB0LT: So far, all of your problems have come from a failure to follow instructions
#1950 [18:21] <BL00DB0LT> lol
#1951 [18:21] <frostic> lol
#1952 [18:22] <BL00DB0LT> srry im just really confusedf
#1953 [18:22] <DiskDaemon> just thought that would help :)
#1954 [18:22] <Whatshiywl> well it's not like I ever cared so much about security on my computer ya know xD
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#1956 [18:22] <frostic> BL00DB0LT: did you make the dxdiag report file?
#1957 [18:23] <BL00DB0LT> it won't allow me to highlight it
#1958 [18:23] <frostic> rightclick on it goto open with notepad
#1959 [18:23] <BL00DB0LT> o i think i know what your talking about now
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#1961 [18:25] <Whatshiywl> DiskDaemon: I disabled everything related to it but it still doesn't work
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#1965 [18:27] <lynx_> hello i got banned on this server for xrayin
#1966 [18:27] <lynx_> how do i get unbanned???
#1967 [18:27] <DiskDaemon> ??> Whatshiywl hosts
#1968 [18:27] <VoxelHead> Whatshiywl: (hosts) In circumstances usually relating to piracy, the operating system's hosts file may need to be inspected to ensure that the system can connect to minecraft's login servers.
#1969 [18:27] <VoxelHead> Whatshiywl: (hosts) For operating system specific information regarding this, see one of the following factoids - Windows: win/hosts - Mac: mac/hosts - Linux: linux/hosts
#1970 [18:27] <DiskDaemon> lynx_: Contact the server ops for information in regard to that
#1971 [18:27] <lynx_> they firewalled me
#1972 [18:27] <Jbeard00> Hey I was curious why I cannot get my login information to let me into minecraft.net is the site having problems?
#1973 [18:27] <DiskDaemon> ??> Whatshiywl win/hosts
#1974 [18:28] <VoxelHead> Whatshiywl: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1975 [18:28] <VoxelHead> Whatshiywl: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1976 [18:28] <DiskDaemon> that's what I was wanting
#1977 [18:28] <lutzee> lynx_: where did you find the server IP?
#1978 [18:28] <lynx_> planetminecraft
#1979 [18:28] <lutzee> If a forum thread then post on the forum thread
#1980 [18:28] <Jbeard00> ill give it a try thx
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#1982 [18:28] <lutzee> Okay, then private message the person on PMC who posted on PMC
#1983 [18:28] <danny> hello
#1984 [18:29] <danny> can somone help me?
#1985 [18:29] <frostic> if that Bl00DB0LT comes back someone help him update his drivers and directx and his java if its not good
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#1988 [18:30] <danny> i got hacked on my acount and i cant log in i think someone changed my password
#1989 [18:30] <DiskDaemon> frostic: directx drivers are completely unrelated to minecraft, fyi
#1990 [18:30] <fuzzy> can someone help me update my beastnode server to 1.4.2
#1991 [18:30] <frostic> danny: just explain your issues dont ask to ask
#1992 [18:30] <Cael> fuzzy,
#1993 [18:30] <DiskDaemon> danny: Please see http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1994 [18:30] <lynx_> help
#1995 [18:30] <Cael> thers no Bukkit for 1.4.2
#1996 [18:30] <Cael> not even a Dev build.
#1997 [18:30] <Cael> all there'd be is Vanilla.
#1998 [18:30] <DiskDaemon> fuzzy: Sorry, we don't deal with mods or modded servers here
#1999 [18:31] <fuzzy> it claims i can do a default
#2000 [18:31] <Whatshiywl> http://pastie.org/5125212
#2001 [18:31] <fuzzy> which i wouldnt mind.
#2002 [18:31] <Cael> "Default" in 99% server hosts is "Vanilla"
#2003 [18:31] <DiskDaemon> Whatshiywl: Get rid of that minecraft line in your hosts file
#2004 [18:31] <lynx_> ok
#2005 [18:32] <lynx_> i just buyed the private 1.4 bukkit release
#2006 [18:32] <lynx_> and all my files are gone
#2007 [18:32] <fuzzy> when i select default it leaves it at 1.3 even though it says it would update it to 1.4.2 so it means that the server host is just dumb or?
#2008 [18:32] <Jbeard00> http://mibpaste.com/sh4UxX
#2009 [18:32] <DiskDaemon> lynx_: Please go to the #bukkit channel for help relating to bukkit
#2010 [18:32] <lynx_> ok
#2011 [18:32] <Whatshiywl> it's fun because i had to include that line one when i had connection problems as well xD
#2012 [18:32] <Jbeard00> ok now what?
#2013 [18:32] <lynx_> * Cannot join #bukkit (You are banned).
#2014 [18:32] <lynx_> * Cannot join #bukkit (You are banned).
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#2016 [18:33] <DiskDaemon> lynx_: SOrry, we don't deal with modded stuff here
#2017 [18:33] <DiskDaemon> ??> lynx_ mods
#2018 [18:33] <VoxelHead> lynx_: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2019 [18:33] <VoxelHead> lynx_: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#2021 [18:33] <Cael> ya know i do belive the bukkit devs never do the "Pay for private build" as they dont have private builds.
#2022 [18:33] <frostic> lmao you payed money for bukkit?
#2023 [18:33] <Cael> you kinda got scammed lynx
#2024 [18:34] <lynx_> i lost 20 bucks
#2025 [18:34] <lynx_> and my server file
#2026 [18:34] <lynx_> ehhh
#2027 [18:34] <frostic> no do a stop payment
#2028 [18:34] <lynx_> ??
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#2030 [18:34] <Cael> if it was over paypal. Dispute a transaction.
#2031 [18:34] <lynx_> i cant
#2032 [18:34] <lynx_> he doesnt have the money
#2033 [18:34] <Whatshiywl> DiskDaemon: dude! thank you so much \o/ that worked
#2034 [18:34] <frostic> yes you can
#2035 [18:34] <DiskDaemon> Whatshiywl: you're welcome
#2036 [18:34] <lynx_> he payed some other guy my money
#2037 [18:35] <lynx_> i cant get it back
#2038 [18:35] <Whatshiywl> but why did I need that line before and now I can't have it anymore?
#2039 [18:35] <Cael> if thers valid reason (and its paypal)
#2040 [18:35] <Cael> what they do they debit him (and lock the account) his account and refund you the money.
#2041 [18:35] <DiskDaemon> Whatshiywl: Possibly initially due to a change of IP for the server, which your local DNS didn't update soon enough to, and now due to another change.
#2042 [18:35] <Cael> its why paypal tends to lock peoples accounst over ebay transactions , is to prevent that from occuring.
#2043 [18:35] <lynx_> im in minus status
#2044 [18:36] <lynx_> i cant do anything
#2045 [18:36] <lynx_> i cant send or accept money
#2046 [18:36] <frostic> lynx_ it seems to me that you are just trolling
#2047 [18:36] <Cael> *facepalm*then your falt Troll.
#2048 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> lynx_: How would you like us to help you with this?
#2049 [18:36] <Cael> good luck getting it back
#2050 [18:36] <lynx_> click my adfly link
#2051 [18:36] * DiskDaemon kicked lynx_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ynx_ :adfly)
#2052 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> oops. wrong click
#2053 [18:36] <frostic> hes full of it thats why #bukkit banned him for trolling
#2054 [18:37] <DiskDaemon> :)
#2055 [18:37] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Ouch, I completely forgot about it only querying session.minecraft.net when connecting to a server. <.<
#2056 [18:38] <Jbeard00> so am i doing something wrong in reguards to logging into minecraft.net i know my info is right but it still says its wrong?
#2057 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> Jbeard00: Can you log in to the web site?
#2058 [18:39] <Jbeard00> not at all i have reset passwords and even created two other users but i still cannot get in
#2059 [18:39] <Jbeard00> its so aggrivating
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#2061 [18:39] <DiskDaemon> Jbeard00: Do you receive an email when you reset your password?
#2062 [18:39] <Jbeard00> i want to purchase the game
#2063 [18:39] <Ravenchamp> hi
#2064 [18:39] <Jbeard00> yeah i did and followed all it said to do
#2065 [18:40] <Ravenchamp> i need some help
#2066 [18:40] <Jbeard00> i know my information is right but it still says im putting in the wrong stuff
#2067 [18:41] <Ravenchamp> hello?
#2068 [18:41] <DiskDaemon> Jbeard00: Something else that you can do is to contact Mojang to get further assistance with your issue http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2069 [18:42] <Jbeard00> I wish there was a contact px number
#2070 [18:42] <Ravenchamp> can you help me?
#2071 [18:42] <Jbeard00> ok thx.
#2072 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> Ravenchamp: Which of the over 160 people in this channel would you like to respond?
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#2074 [18:42] <Ravenchamp> i dont really care
#2075 [18:42] <Ravenchamp> anyone is fine
#2076 [18:42] <frostic> !paid ssfrostic
#2077 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> ??> Ravenchamp ask
#2078 [18:42] <VoxelHead> Ravenchamp: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2079 [18:42] <VoxelHead> Ravenchamp: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2080 [18:42] <Ravenchamp> ok
#2081 [18:43] <Ravenchamp> i cant change to creative mode in my server
#2082 [18:43] <Jbeard00> acutally i have already sent one of those i was just curious if anyone had any ideas thx for the help
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#2084 [18:43] <DiskDaemon> Ravenchamp: Why - what happens when you attempt to?
#2085 [18:43] <Ravenchamp> it says i dont have permission
#2086 [18:43] <DiskDaemon> Ravenchamp: Then give yourself permission
#2087 [18:44] <Ravenchamp> how im still new to mine craft
#2088 [18:44] <DiskDaemon> Ravenchamp: There is a /op command
#2089 [18:45] <Ravenchamp> i tried /gamemode ravenchamp 1 but that wont work
#2090 [18:45] <frostic> try /op Ravenchamp ?
#2091 [18:46] <Ravenchamp> wont work
#2092 [18:46] <DiskDaemon> Why not?
#2093 [18:46] <Ravenchamp> it says i dont have permission
#2094 [18:46] <DiskDaemon> Ravenchamp: From the server console - not from within the game itself
#2095 [18:46] <frostic> Ravenchamp: you need to edit the file and ad your name as op
#2096 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> frostic: It works fine from the server console. Don't go editing files if there's no need to
#2097 [18:47] <Ravenchamp> ok thanks
#2098 [18:47] <Ravenchamp> thanks for the help
#2099 [18:47] <Ravenchamp> bye
#2100 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#2105 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> frostic: Getting people to edit files tends to be a last resort, due to the technical skills of the people who tend to come here asking for help :)
#2106 [18:48] <frostic> but to do the commands in game dont you have to add your self to the op.txt?
#2107 [18:48] <DiskDaemon> frostic: The server console has full permission to make those changes to the files itself
#2108 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> frostic: I'm not taking about in-game, but from the "minecraft server" window itself
#2109 [18:49] <frostic> then the guide i used to set mine up is fail. it says you must add your name to the op.txt file hmm
#2110 [18:50] <frostic> time i find a new guide :(
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#2112 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> frostic: This guide is a good one http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Configuring_the_Minecraft_server
#2113 [18:52] <DiskDaemon> Notice the last bullet point in that section - it's that advice which I was giving, withouteven having read it earlier to find out
#2114 [18:52] <frostic> nice guide thankyou. imma use this
#2115 [18:55] <DiskDaemon> Right - well it looks like I've got all of the easy problems out of the way. Time to take a break
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#2117 [18:56] * DiskDaemon kicked haackm72 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aackm72 :hacked)
#2118 [18:56] <DiskDaemon> Was he asking us to hack him?
#2119 [18:57] <frostic> wow you kicked him because his name is haackm72 why?
#2120 [18:57] <DiskDaemon> It read like leetspeek for "hack me"
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#2122 [18:58] <DiskDaemon> Perhaps I should have waited a bit longer for that hack thing to resolve itself, but it's good to see you here Kyle
#2123 [18:59] <Eddie> /kick DiskDaemon Your name contains 'Daemon', I am scared!
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#2125 [18:59] <frostic> lol Eddie
#2126 [18:59] <Kyle> What hack thing?
#2127 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> Eddie: A daemon is a helpful background task
#2128 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> Kyle: From the haackm72 username that you had before
#2129 [18:59] <Kyle> Oh, That's my ninecraft username.
#2130 [18:59] <Eddie> Oh that kind of daemon :p
#2131 [19:00] <Kyle> Minecraft*
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#2133 [19:00] <Kyle> Well,disk?
#2134 [19:00] <DiskDaemon> EddieL Thank you - daemons historically were demonised (literally) by the church because they didn't understand them, thus we get the demon term that we know today, which is a corruption of the original idea of a daemon being a helpful spirit
#2135 [19:00] <Kyle> I have a bito of a problem?
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#2137 [19:01] <DiskDaemon> Kyle: My apologies for being hot-footed off the mark back ther
#2138 [19:01] <Kyle> I Accept your appology.
#2139 [19:01] <Kyle> Appologie*
#2140 [19:02] <DiskDaemon> pfft :)
#2141 [19:02] <frostic> Kyle: please explain your issue and we will try to help you :D
#2142 [19:02] <Kyle> Alrighty,
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#2145 [19:03] <R50731205> Why can't I open my ports?
#2146 [19:03] <R50731205> 25565 specifically
#2147 [19:03] <Morrolan> Because, uh, you don't have access to your router?
#2148 [19:03] <DiskDaemon> Or due to double-natting?
#2149 [19:03] <Morrolan> Or due to you setting up a rule for UDP instead of TCP?
#2150 [19:03] <R50731205> double-natting?
#2151 [19:03] <Morrolan> Or maybe there are multiple firewall rules for the same port.
#2152 [19:04] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: There are many reasons why ports can't be opened
#2153 [19:04] <R50731205> I disabled the firewall
#2154 [19:04] <Morrolan> As you might be able to tell by now, we can't help you if you can't provide us with some more information. ^.^
#2155 [19:04] <R50731205> What information do you need?
#2156 [19:04] <Morrolan> The firewall running on your computer, or the one on your router?
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#2159 [19:05] <R50731205> UDP and TCP are forwarded to 25565 on 192.168.0.100. Norton antivirus firewall - All firewalls on my computer and router have been disabled
#2160 [19:05] <dj> hello bought minecraft cannot activate it because never got the e-mail, how do you fix that?
#2161 [19:05] <Kyle> Well I have a problem logging into Minecraft. It keeps on saying 'This application requires Java Runtime Enviroment 1.5.0, and I then assumed I needed to update/download java.
#2162 [19:05] <DAD> I bought minecraft and i cannot get it to migrate says I tried to many times 8(
#2163 [19:05] <Kyle> So,
#2164 [19:06] <dj> is there a phone # for support?
#2165 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> dj: Do you get an email when you reset the password of your account?
#2166 [19:06] <Morrolan> dj - There is not. First, check your junk/spam folder.
#2167 [19:06] <frostic> Kyle: please install java 6 or java 7
#2168 [19:06] <Kyle> When I try to download java, it says installation failed.
#2169 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> Kyle: It sounds like you need to update your java (see java.com)
#2170 [19:06] <frostic> dont do the net install
#2171 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> DAD: You'll have to wait a while
#2172 [19:07] <dj> don't know have to check about the reset
#2173 [19:07] <Kyle> I've tried updating java, but my installation keeps on failing.
#2174 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> dj: There is no phone number for support. We are not Mojang support either. We are people from around the world who love minecraft and volunteer our time in this channel to help others share the joy too
#2175 [19:08] <DiskDaemon> ??> R50731205 dont/pm
#2176 [19:08] <VoxelHead> R50731205: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#2177 [19:08] <frostic> Kyle: there should be a way to download the full installer on java site. dont use the web installer
#2178 [19:08] <Kyle> How would I do that?
#2179 [19:08] <frostic> first goto java.com
#2180 [19:08] <dj> yes got an e-mail for reset password but nothing for activation not even in spam
#2181 [19:08] <DAD> how long is a while? 8)
#2182 [19:09] <R50731205> Ok
#2183 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> dj: That implies that you attempted to pay, but weren't successful
#2184 [19:09] <R50731205> Any ideas as to what it could be?
#2185 [19:09] <lutzee> DAD: probably ~12 hours
#2186 [19:09] <dj> we paid for the card at Target
#2187 [19:09] * andrewkm|away is now known as andrewkm
#2188 [19:09] <DAD> thank you all who do this for us noobs 8)
#2189 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> dj: the prepaid info that we have for people it found at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/353966-my-gift-code-does-not-work
#2190 [19:10] <DAD> so after 12 hours i can try to input the info again and i might be good?
#2191 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> DAD: That seems to be the case, yes
#2192 [19:10] <frostic> Kyle: ok that is odd they removed the download and now its web installer only. that is not cool
#2193 [19:10] <DAD> ok ty guys
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#2195 [19:11] <Kyle> Well it keeps on saying installaton failed.
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#2198 [19:12] <R50731205> So no...
#2199 [19:12] <simon3161> hi
#2200 [19:12] <simon3161> can some one help me?
#2201 [19:12] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: What is the WAN IP from your router?
#2202 [19:12] <Kyle> Me?
#2203 [19:13] <DiskDaemon> ??> simon3161 ask
#2204 [19:13] <VoxelHead> simon3161: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2205 [19:13] <VoxelHead> simon3161: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2206 [19:13] <simon3161> every time i try to join a minecraft server it tells me internal client error:java.net.socketexeption:network is unrachable: conect
#2207 [19:13] <DiskDaemon> ??> simon3161 win/hosts
#2208 [19:13] <VoxelHead> simon3161: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2209 [19:13] <VoxelHead> simon3161: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2210 [19:13] <simon3161> but i can join those servers in my laptop :(
#2211 [19:14] <R50731205> I wish I could say 192.168.2.11 but thats private...
#2212 [19:14] <frostic> Kyle: im sorry i dont know how to help you get java to install properly. please contact java support about the issue. however once you get java installed minecraft should work. if not come back :)
#2213 [19:15] <simon3161> # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp. # # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows. # # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name. # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one # space. # # Additionally, comments (such as these) may be
#2214 [19:15] <DiskDaemon> ??> simon3161 pastebin
#2215 [19:15] <simon3161> this it?
#2216 [19:15] <VoxelHead> simon3161: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2217 [19:15] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: Your IP address is public information
#2218 [19:16] <simon3161> one second let me check it :)
#2219 [19:16] <simon3161> what do i paste??
#2220 [19:16] <R50731205> I know, I meant 192.168.*.* addresses are private addresses not public ones. in other words that can't be my routers public address
#2221 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: One of the possibilities is that your router is double-natted, where a private IP address space is being used on both side of the router. If that's the case, then you're going to need to open up the ports on the further upstream router to be successful too, for example
#2222 [19:17] <Kyle> Well, Alright. Thanks so much for the help DiskDaemon d frostic! It's really appreciated.
#2223 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> simon3161: your hosts file
#2224 [19:17] <dj> thanks guys
#2225 [19:17] * Me4502 is now known as Me4502|away
#2226 [19:17] <simon3161> theres hosts and hosts.ics
#2227 [19:17] * Me4502|away is now known as Me4502
#2228 [19:18] <R50731205> what does double natted mean?
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#2230 [19:18] <R50731205> I only have one router in my house that is active
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#2232 [19:18] <frostic> >check R50731205
#2233 [19:18] <frostic> err i forgot the command
#2234 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: So the LAP IP is notmally in a private address space, and the WAN IP address is in the public address space. If both are in a private address space then that is double natting, where Network Address Translation is occurring twice over, which causes problems
#2235 [19:19] <simon3161> i pasted it and submit and now what?
#2236 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> simon3161: Telling us to where you posted it would help a lo9t
#2237 [19:19] <R50731205> So how would I disable that if I only have one router?
#2238 [19:19] <frostic> get the link and paste in here simon3161
#2239 [19:19] <simon3161> http://pastebin.com/xiM4XG23
#2240 [19:19] <simon3161> there
#2241 [19:19] <Cael> well i see most often w/ doube natting.. are DSL connections or some FiOS ISPs
#2242 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: First we need to know if you are suffering from that problem, so tell us the WAN IP of your router, please.
#2243 [19:20] <Cael> (AT&T is guilty big time in with Doublenatting)
#2244 [19:20] <DiskDaemon> simon3161: Remove that miencraft entry from your hosts file
#2245 [19:20] <R50731205> How can I find that?
#2246 [19:20] <simon3161> ok
#2247 [19:20] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: It's commonly in the status area of your router
#2248 [19:20] <R50731205> Im there under WAN it say 192.168.2.11
#2249 [19:20] <Cael> goto http://192.168.1.1 (or) http://192.168.0.1
#2250 [19:20] <frostic> why his hosts file says 184.73.223.40 session.minecraft.net? delete this please
#2251 [19:20] <Cael> ok im a bit behind hes been to his router,
#2252 [19:21] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: And you have a different but related IP address for your LAN IP?
#2253 [19:21] <Cael> yea thats doube natting or more so router behind a router.
#2254 [19:21] <R50731205> LAN IP is 192.168.0.1
#2255 [19:21] <simon3161> when i delete it it tells me i dont have a adminstrators permission to delete the minecraft entry??
#2256 [19:21] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: THe you are being double natted. Even if your own router is perfectly setup to port-forward things through, the upstream router at 192.168.2.11 would need to be similarly setup too
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#2258 [19:21] <R50731205> Hence what I mean the WAN address is Private when it should be public
#2259 [19:22] <frostic> simon3161: move the file to desktop then edit it then save it then move it back to the directory
#2260 [19:22] <simon3161> ok thanks
#2261 [19:22] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: So unless you have control over that further upstream router, you can't host a minecraft server from where you have your existing internet connection
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#2263 [19:23] <R50731205> There is no other router upstream before the modem...
#2264 [19:23] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: Your ISP would be doing it then
#2265 [19:23] <Morrolan> I believe we've once had someone whose ISP...
#2266 [19:23] <R50731205> Computer > Router
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#2268 [19:23] <R50731205> Router > Modem
#2269 [19:23] <frostic> R50731205: call your isp they may be blocking your ports from being opened
#2270 [19:24] <simon3161> how do i make the file like that when i open it its like a document now?
#2271 [19:24] <R50731205> My ports were opened before...
#2272 [19:24] <R50731205> now all of a sudden theyre shut again
#2273 [19:24] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: We can only give you the information that we know from experience has affected other people in your same situation in the past
#2274 [19:24] <R50731205> So most likely need to call the ISP?
#2275 [19:24] <Cael> R50731205, what type of ISP do you have ? Cable? FiOS? DSL?
#2276 [19:25] <R50731205> DSL
#2277 [19:25] <Cael> Knew it.
#2278 [19:25] <frostic> they blocked me from opening ports after they was open for years. call them
#2279 [19:25] <Cael> you likely have a "Mini" Router in your outside box
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#2281 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> It would be Bell that's his ISP, via bell.ca
#2282 [19:25] <R50731205> How can I find out?
#2283 [19:25] <simon3161> ok i put the file and replaced hosts now what??
#2284 [19:26] <frostic> hahaha mine is bell too and they block all ports now there you go end story
#2285 [19:26] <Cael> look outside for your access box usally just a Flathead screw keeps it closded there should be a Eithernet liek cable leading from an "Maintince access" Side.
#2286 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> simon3161: double-check that the windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts file has the entry removed, and try connecting to a multiplayer server once again
#2287 [19:26] <Cael> if you see that.. your mini'routered
#2288 [19:26] <simon3161> ok let me try
#2289 [19:27] <Cael> (its how AT&T works thier DSL house-access boxes, they have two sections to it one accessable by customers and 1 by the techs.
#2290 [19:27] <Cael> sadly i think only your ISP can port forward the outside access box's mini Router (if thats your case)
#2291 [19:27] <Cael> best bet for hosting will sadly be Hamachi.
#2292 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2293 [19:28] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2294 [19:28] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2295 [19:28] <simon3161> omg thanks sooo much guys it worked your amazing :D
#2296 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#2297 [19:28] <Cael> DiskDaemon, in normal cases yea.
#2298 [19:28] <simon3161> thanks for the help
#2299 [19:28] <Cael> but R50731205 maybe indeed doublenatted with an outside access box.
#2300 [19:29] <Cael> and wouldnt have any other choice.
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#2302 [19:29] <frostic> guys read what i have said. i have the same isp as him and they block all ports from being opened
#2303 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> Cael: There are other choices - use an external hosting solution for the server
#2304 [19:30] <R50731205> So how do I find if I am bouble natted?
#2305 [19:30] <frostic> DiskDaemon: yes and im buying hosting because the same isp bell wich i have is blocking all ports as of like 3 days ago
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#2307 [19:30] <Cael> frostic, some isps (cant say for bell) operate "Dvisions" diffrently i had AT&T for awhile in Illinois and they indeed block port forwarding.(err Opening) but they didnt do so here in michigan
#2308 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: You've found out, because both your WAN and LAN IP addresses are in the 192 range
#2309 [19:31] <R50731205> So how can I stop it? or rather disable the secondary hardware?
#2310 [19:31] <Cael> you cant
#2311 [19:31] <Cael> beyond switching ISP's
#2312 [19:31] <DiskDaemon> R50731205: You would need to contact your ISP in regard to that
#2313 [19:31] <Cael> what state do you live in R50731205 ?
#2314 [19:32] <R50731205> I live in Canada... Don't have a state
#2315 [19:32] <DiskDaemon> province?
#2316 [19:32] <Cael> ahh
#2317 [19:32] <Cael> nvr mind, if he was in the US (speficly in kansas) i would of suggested Google fiber
#2318 [19:33] <R50731205> I want google fiber...
#2319 [19:33] <R50731205> They need to speed theyre testing up just a bit
#2320 [19:33] <Cael> (300$ one-time payment for free for life internet on an 5down 2up or 70/month for true gigabit net.
#2321 [19:33] <Cael> reaaaly cant complain!
#2322 [19:33] <Cael> yea second its here in MI i'm ditching my current ISP
#2323 [19:34] <Cael> (WideOpenWest)
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#2325 [19:35] <Cael> and thier 120/month package is nice TV+gigabit net, 1TB Free google Cloud storage, and a free 7' Nexus Tablet
#2326 [19:35] <StayStackinn> I need help i put in my credit card mutiple times and it says your card is disabled then afterwords says purchase complete but its never complete
#2327 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> StayStackinn: Contact your bank to find out why
#2328 [19:36] <StayStackinn> its not bank
#2329 [19:36] <StayStackinn> its prepaid
#2330 [19:36] <frostic> Cael: do they service ohio?
#2331 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> StayStackinn: If it's a prepay card, then you cannot be successful. Sorry.
#2332 [19:36] <StayStackinn> tits prepaid and i called and i have the balance
#2333 [19:36] <StayStackinn> itits*
#2334 [19:36] <StayStackinn> its*
#2335 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> StayStackinn: Prepaid cards are not allowed to be sued for overseas transactions
#2336 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> *used
#2337 [19:37] <StayStackinn> Im in the usa
#2338 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> StayStackinn: Mojang are in Sweden. Checkmate
#2339 [19:37] <frostic> it must be a real creditcard or debit card. walmart fake visa's dont work i know i tried them all
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#2343 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> Now might be a good time to take my leave
#2344 [19:40] * DiskDaemon tips hat
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#2345 [19:44] <StayStackinn> i have a dig bick
#2346 [19:46] <Cael> back sorry frostic
#2347 [19:46] <Cael> Google Fiber or WideOpenWest?
#2348 [19:46] <Cael> as WideOpenWest does indeed service Ohio.
#2349 [19:46] <Cael> (67$ a month for phone/net on an 15mb down 2mb up)
#2350 [19:49] <Cael> as for "fakies" that'd classify Paypal debit . but paypal Debit cards do work.
#2351 [19:49] <Cael> (as its how i paid for MC)
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#2353 [19:52] <jacky> how do i change my username?
#2354 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329525-can-i-change-my-username-
#2355 [19:53] <jacky> whats the custermer support number?
#2356 [19:53] <jacky> for minecraft
#2357 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> there isn't one
#2358 [19:54] <Cael> and if you read that link
#2359 [19:54] <Cael> you'd know that theres no way to change your Username.
#2360 [19:54] <jacky> ok i have
#2361 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> read? Ha ha ha :)
#2362 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> Cael: Thanks - /me wipes eyes - I needed that
#2363 [19:55] <Cael> so many minecrafts are so illiterate these days
#2364 [19:55] <Cael> *minecrafters
#2365 [19:56] <jacky> fuck you
#2366 [19:56] * AuBot kicked jacky from #minecrafthelp (Reason: acky :Please keep it civil.)
#2367 [19:56] <Cael> O-o
#2368 [19:56] <Cael> wonder what reaction i would of recived if he kew i was a Furry XD (so much hate among many servers for furrs)
#2369 [19:59] <frostic> Cael: i got 20mbit down and 5 up for $45 a month. and i meant google fiber wish they was in my area
#2370 [19:59] <Cael> ahh only a few areas of kansis sofar for googlefiber
#2371 [20:00] <Cael> *kansas
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#2375 [20:19] <islandap> Bad video card drivers!
#2376 [20:19] <islandap> help
#2377 [20:19] <islandap> I have tried everything
#2378 [20:21] <lutzee> ??> islandap win/dxdiag
#2379 [20:21] <VoxelHead> islandap: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2380 [20:21] <VoxelHead> islandap: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2381 [20:23] <islandap> i dont understand
#2382 [20:23] <islandap> I am not a techy
#2383 [20:23] <islandap> windows 8 pro running
#2384 [20:24] <lutzee> Oh..
#2385 [20:24] <lutzee> Um
#2386 [20:24] <lutzee> That should still work
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#2388 [20:24] <islandap> windows button and the "R" button
#2389 [20:24] <frostic> islandap: just read what vox said and mimic it.
#2390 [20:25] <lutzee> yes, press them at the same time
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#2393 [20:26] <islandap> i will try but not sure what you mean
#2394 [20:26] <islandap> on the desktop?
#2395 [20:26] <lutzee> would probably be a good idea being there
#2396 [20:27] <islandap> whats IRC channel?
#2397 [20:28] <lutzee> This is the irc channel
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#2403 [20:41] <Destructoman72> When I try to connect to a server it says can not connect to server:connect how do I fix that
#2404 [20:41] <ssfrostic> hey guys anyone on that knows about the double netting thing ?
#2405 [20:41] <islandap> bad video card driver
#2406 [20:41] <Destructoman72> Me?
#2407 [20:42] <islandap> I type dxdiag
#2408 [20:42] <islandap> pressed run
#2409 [20:43] <islandap> saved page
#2410 [20:43] <Destructoman72> I know how to get there
#2411 [20:43] <Destructoman72> What does it mean when it says that
#2412 [20:43] <islandap> I just bought mind craft and I get an error
#2413 [20:44] <islandap> minecraft
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#2415 [20:44] <Destructoman72> Can I get some help here please
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#2417 [20:44] <Cael> that ment you cannot connect to the IP you entered.
#2418 [20:45] <Destructoman72> K it has worked before 1.4.2
#2419 [20:45] <Cael> either the server host if home connection hasnt port forwarded, or that server's offline.
#2420 [20:45] <Destructoman72> I see people are on the server but I can't connect
#2421 [20:45] <ssfrostic> cael what is double netting ?
#2422 [20:45] <Cael> and you cannot connect to older servers that havent updated with 1.4.2
#2423 [20:45] <islandap> bad video card driver error
#2424 [20:45] <Cael> Doubble natting?
#2425 [20:45] <Cael> router on Router
#2426 [20:45] <ssfrostic> yes
#2427 [20:46] <Cael> it's common practice by DSL ISP's
#2428 [20:46] <Destructoman72> The. Server is updated to 1.4.2
#2429 [20:46] <Cael> unless you have access to the first router connected on your network to portforward then you cant host
#2430 [20:47] <ssfrostic> brock: needs help i think hes double natting. its not allowing the ports to forward
#2431 [20:47] <Destructoman72> So it worked yesterday now I haven't been able to connect all day
#2432 [20:47] <Cael> (well there would be the option of paying for external hosting or go w/ Hamachi but that is not supported here)
#2433 [20:48] <ssfrostic> brock: explain to cael the problem they seem to know alot about this stuff
#2434 [20:48] <Destructoman72> Is it my router or is it my computer
#2435 [20:48] <brock> my server was working until my online ip changed after that i havent been able to host
#2436 [20:49] <Cael> your ISP may have Blocked the Port.
#2437 [20:49] <Destructoman72> The problem is that I tried to connect to a server but it said cant connect to server:connect people are on it but I can't connect how do I fix that
#2438 [20:50] <Destructoman72> Who me or Brock
#2439 [20:50] <brock> i checked with them and they have not blocked any ports
#2440 [20:50] <Cael> Brock sorry.
#2441 [20:50] <Destructoman72> Do you know how to fix my problem
#2442 [20:50] <Cael> double natting only affects MC hosting not connecting to others
#2443 [20:50] <Cael> Doublecheck your hosts file for any listinsg relating to MC or that server
#2444 [20:51] <brock> ok one sec
#2445 [20:51] <Destructoman72> I checked my host file it doesn't even have the word minecraft in it
#2446 [20:51] <ssfrostic> can you help brock troubleshoot? and i already had him do the hosts file and nothing in it about mc
#2447 [20:52] <brock> just checked theres nothing\
#2448 [20:52] <Cael> offhand what i can suggest try restarting your connection (power cycling your modem)
#2449 [20:52] <ssfrostic> only liner in his hostsfile is 127.0.0.1 localhost
#2450 [20:52] <Cael> but there is something between you and your connection to that server
#2451 [20:53] <Destructoman72> I'd
#2452 [20:53] <Cael> if you can bring up the run prompt (Winkey+r) type in CMD
#2453 [20:53] <Cael> then type tracert (then IP of the server)
#2454 [20:53] <Cael> if it times out before reaching that server
#2455 [20:53] <Cael> then its your ISP and you'd haveto wait.
#2456 [20:53] <ssfrostic> cael you can tracerout him?
#2457 [20:54] <Destructoman72> I doh
#2458 [20:54] <ssfrostic> ill try but i never done it befor
#2459 [20:54] <Destructoman72> Then how come it worked yesterday
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#2461 [20:55] <Cael> i've had my ISP go thru momenst where i cant acess any micro website or services
#2462 [20:55] <Cael> your ISP maybe doing maintince to thier backends.
#2463 [20:56] <Destructoman72> Oh the joy of Comcast
#2464 [20:56] <Cael> oooh you poor soul.
#2465 [20:56] <Destructoman72> How long do you think I should wait
#2466 [20:56] * Cael tries to comfort Destructoman72
#2466 [20:56] <Destructoman72> Lol
#2467 [20:57] <Cael> Destructoman72, whats the IP of the server your trying to connect to?
#2468 [20:58] <Destructoman72> 69.162.121.144:25765
#2469 [20:58] <ssfrostic> Cael: after i did traceroute when it got to hop 5 all the rest timed out
#2470 [20:59] <Cael> sounds like a connection issue w/ your ISP i'm running one myself.
#2471 [20:59] <Destructoman72> Did you try connecting to the server?
#2472 [20:59] <Cael> loading up 1.4 right now.
#2473 [21:00] <Cael> hmm not even i can connect (and after tracert leaves dallas it continues on timing out as well)
#2474 [21:00] <Destructoman72> Weird
#2475 [21:01] <Cael> cant even ping it.
#2476 [21:01] <Destructoman72> Weird
#2477 [21:01] <Cael> try waiting aday or so it may just be the server itself or its located in a blackout-zone.
#2478 [21:01] <Destructoman72> Maybe the server is broken
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#2480 [21:02] <islandap> bad video card driver error
#2481 [21:02] <islandap> http://pastebin.com/ChJ6hZQZ
#2482 [21:02] <Destructoman72> Well a hurricane is gonna hit around where the owner lives so maybe he is getting hit by it
#2483 [21:02] <islandap> any help would be great
#2484 [21:02] <ssfrostic> cael mind helping brock?
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#2487 [21:02] <ssfrostic> islandap: you need to update your video drivers
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#2489 [21:03] <islandap> I tryed that
#2490 [21:03] <it3man> i've two minecraft accounts. is it possible to migrate both of them to one mojang account???
#2491 [21:03] <islandap> it says already uptodate
#2492 [21:03] <Cael> islandap, could be an issue w/ the drivers for windows 8.
#2493 [21:04] <islandap> what can I do?
#2494 [21:04] <Cael> try catalyst vers 11.12 (most stable version out not sure if that spefic vers will even install on 8)
#2495 [21:04] <lutzee> islandap: you can try installing these, but not 100% garenteed http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeonaiw-vista32.aspx
#2496 [21:04] <ssfrostic> wait are you letting windows update your drivers?
#2497 [21:04] <Cael> as for brock hmm
#2498 [21:04] <islandap> My son really want to play
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#2501 [21:04] <lutzee> islandap: please take not that windows 8 is a Very new operating system and hardware drivers will not be updated yert
#2502 [21:04] <lutzee> yet*
#2503 [21:05] <Cael> hmm double check your router brock and make sure the port forwards are still there.
#2504 [21:05] <ssfrostic> NEVER let windows update your drivers. goto the manufacturer of your card and get the most recent ones from them
#2505 [21:05] <lutzee> It might take 4-6 weeks for a decent set of drivers to come out that support windows 8
#2506 [21:05] <Cael> and for a test, whats your current IP?
#2507 [21:05] <islandap> so wait for the new update to minecraft?
#2508 [21:05] <brock> is there a way to change my online ip?
#2509 [21:05] <Cael> yes actually but your router would nee dto support "MAC Address Spoofing"
#2510 [21:05] <Cael> (aka Address Cloning)
#2511 [21:06] <tdog580> I downgraded My minecraft so I could play on my favorite pvp server. I now know how to downgrade easily, but I would like to update t 1.4.2 again so I can have the new features. How do I update it again?
#2512 [21:06] <islandap> I went to dell and did the update
#2513 [21:06] <lutzee> islandap: wait for some graphics drivers to be updated
#2514 [21:06] <ssfrostic> yes brock unplug internet wait 24 hours turn it back on and you have a new ip in your ip range
#2515 [21:06] <Cael> in the minecraft.exe click options and select force update tdog580
#2516 [21:06] <tdog580> thank you!!!
#2517 [21:06] <Cael> i'd suggest using multiMC to keep multiple versions of mc
#2518 [21:06] <islandap> how will i know?
#2519 [21:07] <Cael> w/ having to constantly downgrading/upgrading
#2520 [21:07] <islandap> keep trying?
#2521 [21:07] <Cael> prety much Ishaq
#2522 [21:07] <Cael> Err islandap
#2523 [21:07] <lutzee> Pretty much all you can do is wait
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#2525 [21:07] <islandap> sorry i am not a tech person
#2526 [21:07] <tdog580> how so I get to minecraft.exe?
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#2528 [21:08] <tdog580> Is that just the reular game?
#2529 [21:08] <lutzee> ??> tdog580 forceupdate
#2530 [21:08] <VoxelHead> tdog580: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2531 [21:08] <VoxelHead> tdog580: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2532 [21:08] <tdog580> ok ty
#2533 [21:08] <Cael> as for that server islandap seems http://www.limestonenetworks.com/ is it's host
#2534 [21:08] <tdog580> I got it!!!! thanks!
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#2536 [21:10] <it3man> nobody knows an answer?
#2537 [21:10] <Cael> brb though (Nature calls)
#2538 [21:10] <lutzee> it3man: not possible
#2539 [21:10] <it3man> ty
#2540 [21:10] <it3man> so for every minecraft account one mojang account?
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#2542 [21:11] <lutzee> Yes
#2543 [21:12] <it3man> okay :(
#2544 [21:12] <ssfrostic> that is sad i cant seem to find a reason why brocks ports are blocked. this is wat we did. 1) made sure that the forwarding is correct. it is. then we called his isp and they said they are not blocking it. we then deleted all portforwarding restarted the router redid the forwarding then restarted the router. still no connection.
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#2547 [21:13] <ssfrostic> when we opened port 443 as a test it opened it but 25565 just wont open
#2548 [21:14] <lutzee> Might be due to a firewall on the PC
#2549 [21:15] <ssfrostic> he said that everything worked untill his external ip somehow changed now its not working
#2550 [21:16] <ssfrostic> we checked his firewalls he has them disabled
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#2552 [21:17] <ssfrostic> only thing i can think of is maybe his isp is blocking them and the person he talked to is wrong to say they are not blocking it
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#2554 [21:18] <Cael> well you can atleast try running MC on a diffrent port.
#2555 [21:18] <Thronk> Hello, is there a recent version of Questioner I can download for towny ?
#2556 [21:19] <Cael> this channel is for Vanilla help Thronk
#2557 [21:19] <Thronk> Ok
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#2559 [21:19] <Cael> you might have better luck in #bukkit
#2560 [21:19] <ssfrostic> well he went offline and we tried running it on 3 ports 80,443 and 25565 thats wat someone in here suggested
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#2562 [21:20] <ssfrostic> 443 showed as open but didnt allow outside connections lol
#2563 [21:20] <Cael> eitther his router is takin the worst time to Puke or something his ISP is doing tam.
#2564 [21:21] <Cael> *atm
#2565 [21:21] <ssfrostic> i think they are blocking the port and the tec-guy needs fired for giving false info
#2566 [21:22] <Cael> some ISP's if they detect (een possible) malicious activity on a port.
#2567 [21:22] <ssfrostic> a simple ip change should not block a port
#2568 [21:22] <Cael> they block it.
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#2571 [21:23] <Cael> or strangely they're throttling him and its affecting his ability to host
#2572 [21:23] <ssfrostic> well tell me this is not strange when i try to connect to his server i get bluescreen of death and my pc shuts off lol
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#2574 [21:24] <ssfrostic> all other servers work great only his causes bluescreen
#2575 [21:26] <lutzee> That sounds like a problem with your PC
#2576 [21:26] <ssfrostic> maybe hes rooted with a virus that is blocking the port. that would explain my bluescreen. the bluescreen said memoryfull as the excetion
#2577 [21:26] <ssfrostic> na my pc is fine i can get on any server there is
#2578 [21:26] <ssfrostic> just not his
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#2580 [21:28] <frostic> oh well i tried to help him but i failed :/
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#2583 [21:42] <asdfg> hey
#2584 [21:42] <asdfg> minecraft will not open for me
#2585 [21:43] <carolus412> more specific?
#2586 [21:43] <carolus412> how far do you get?
#2587 [21:43] <asdfg> when i click on minecraft nothing happens
#2588 [21:43] <carolus412> hmm
#2589 [21:43] <carolus412> that is weird
#2590 [21:43] <asdfg> when i try to do it in browser it crashes
#2591 [21:44] <carolus412> try redownloading the launcher from minecraft from minecraft.net
#2592 [21:44] <carolus412> oh
#2593 [21:44] <asdfg> i did 5 times
#2594 [21:44] <carolus412> ok
#2595 [21:44] <carolus412> that is really weird
#2596 [21:44] <carolus412> did you check java?
#2597 [21:44] <asdfg> who are you
#2598 [21:44] <carolus412> carolus412
#2599 [21:44] <carolus412> :)
#2600 [21:44] <asdfg> yes i have to latest java
#2601 [21:44] <carolus412> ok
#2602 [21:45] <asdfg> even if i didn't i am pretty sure that wouldn't crash my browser
#2603 [21:45] <asdfg> nothing would just show up
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#2605 [21:45] <carolus412> yeah
#2606 [21:45] <asdfg> .....
#2607 [21:46] <asdfg> is this
#2608 [21:46] <asdfg> can someone help me
#2609 [21:46] <carolus412> sorry dude, I got nothing.
#2610 [21:46] <asdfg> is anyone going to help me
#2611 [21:46] <edmo4> minecraft is failing on startup
#2612 [21:46] <frostic> i doubt anyone can in here
#2613 [21:46] <edmo4> can some suggest fix?
#2614 [21:47] <asdfg> same
#2615 [21:47] <asdfg> yes you have to restart your computer.
#2616 [21:47] <asdfg> :)
#2617 [21:47] <asdfg> did you do it?
#2618 [21:48] <asdfg> hey admo4
#2619 [21:48] <asdfg> edmo4
#2620 [21:48] <asdfg> LOL
#2621 [21:48] <edmo4> have restart many time, deleted files, reloaded java, keeps happening
#2622 [21:48] <asdfg> you have to do it one more time and then open minecraft as admin
#2623 [21:48] <carolus412> @asdfg, that worked for you?
#2624 [21:49] <asdfg> yes
#2625 [21:49] <asdfg> edmo4 you should do that
#2626 [21:49] <carolus412> weird
#2627 [21:49] <asdfg> hey edmo4 did you do it
#2628 [21:49] <asdfg> hey edmo4
#2629 [21:49] <asdfg> LOL
#2630 [21:49] <edmo4> yes, same agin
#2631 [21:49] <asdfg> you didnt do it
#2632 [21:50] <asdfg> it never said you left the chat
#2633 [21:50] <asdfg> you spas
#2634 [21:50] <frostic> edmo4: open your hosts file and se if there is a line with mc in it if so delete the line save the file and try again
#2635 [21:50] <asdfg> no
#2636 [21:50] <frostic> no?
#2637 [21:50] <asdfg> you have to make a copy of it and then put it on system32 and then delete that file
#2638 [21:51] <edmo4> will try again cheers
#2639 [21:51] <Cael> Finally done with repairing my FFXI server that was a b*** and ahalf..
#2640 [21:51] <Cael> least now i can focus on MC again.
#2641 [21:51] <asdfg> shut the fuck up cael
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#2643 [21:51] <Cael> O-o
#2644 [21:51] <Cael> oooook..
#2645 [21:51] <Cael> oooook..
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#2647 [21:52] <Cael> did i walk back into a rats nest with him or?
#2648 [21:52] <frostic> that was both him i believe
#2649 [21:52] <frostic> was a troll
#2650 [21:52] * frdmn is now known as frdmn|away
#2651 [21:54] <Cael> felt like the devs for the prvate ffxi server team trolled me w/ a revision i was updating.. it changed everything in how character information was store din it's DB. i starte dto manually move and make changes till they release an "Easy update" script. but ehh thats offtopic and i can resume MC again.
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#2653 [21:54] <frostic> lol that sucks
#2654 [21:57] <Eddie> lol.
#2655 [21:58] * Eddie pets Cael
#2655 [21:59] <Cael> i'm just getting the hang of MySQL databse management and having to manually do so many changes was making me go insane
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#2658 [22:08] <Gage> I cannot remember my password for minecraft or the email, can anyone help please
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#2660 [22:09] <oldtopman> Gage: Your best bet is to email mojang support with your payment details and ask them to change your information.
#2661 [22:09] <Gage> What is the email ?
#2662 [22:09] <oldtopman> Hmm?
#2663 [22:09] <lutzee> help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2664 [22:10] <Gage> I do not remember the email address I used to create minecraft account
#2665 [22:12] <Yerg> Do you have your transaction Id?
#2666 [22:13] <Gage> I cannot remember where that is
#2667 [22:13] <Yerg> If so, include it in the form there
#2668 [22:13] <Yerg> If not, then you'll need to find it
#2669 [22:13] <frostic> Gage: if you dont have any info like the email or the password or the transaction id then that is like asking a blind person to choose the black ball out of 600 red ones
#2670 [22:13] <Gage> If I have the credit card info well that help ?
#2671 [22:14] <lutzee> Er contact moneybookers with that information to get the transaction ID
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#2673 [22:20] <Munchie> Hello, my minecraft has no sound at all and i dont know how to fix it can anyone help?
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#2676 [22:21] <Munchie> Hello, my minecraft has no sound at all and i dont know how to fix it can anyone help?
#2677 [22:22] <tast> Hi, is I buy the PC version of minecraft do I also have to buy a separate copy of the android version to use the same account? And would I be able to access the same worlds from PC and mobile device?
#2678 [22:22] <oldtopman> ??> Munchie dont/repeat
#2679 [22:22] <VoxelHead> Munchie: (dont/repeat) There is absolutely no need to repeat messages in IRC. Messages do not 'expire' and unless there is a lot of conversation, your message is not going anywhere.
#2680 [22:22] <VoxelHead> Munchie: (dont/repeat) Failure to follow this rule is very irritating, clouds the chat, and is almost certain you get you kicked for spamming.
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#2682 [22:23] <oldtopman> tast: The PC and android versions are completely diferrent.
#2683 [22:23] <Munchie> sorry
#2684 [22:23] <tast> so no access to same worlds? what if I set up a server?
#2685 [22:24] <lutzee> tast: they are Completely different
#2686 [22:24] <tast> ah, k. tyvm
#2687 [22:24] <lutzee> the mobile version is a much more watered down version of the game
#2688 [22:25] <tast> thanks again, bye
#2689 [22:26] <frostic> ok thats odd i cant access my router it says its not responding but im on the internet so i know its working lol
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#2691 [22:27] <Munchie> ever sence i updated my java it seems that the sound doesn't work at all for me. it is either that or when i updated to 1.3
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#2697 [22:31] <minecraftmaniac> hey my sound isn't working on my minecraft can someone help. i am clueless.
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#2700 [22:36] <carolus412> I was having the same problem until recently.
#2701 [22:37] <carolus412> I fixed it by totally removing minecraft from the computer and then downloading it again.
#2702 [22:37] <carolus412> if that doesn't work then I can't help
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#2706 [22:41] <rancidfann> hey i keep getting a internal exception java.io.ioexception bad packet id 7 when i try to log into my mp server any ideas?
#2707 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Usually has to do with a modded client
#2708 [22:41] <Destructoman72> how do i know if my ISP is doing maintenance because i cant get on a server
#2709 [22:42] <Destructoman72> also i had some weird error saying that a software broke my connection to a server
#2710 [22:42] <rancidfann> so how do i go about fixxing it? im not modded but the server i am on has towny and stuff like that do i need to dl something?
#2711 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Ah, yes. Most likely, your server hasn't been updated, while your client has
#2712 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> You're running 1.4.2 on your client, but your server's still running 1.3.2, modded with bukkit and plugins, yes?
#2713 [22:43] <rancidfann> the server says it plays 1.4.2
#2714 [22:43] <rancidfann> probably the leaked bukkit thing? unstabble and crashed?
#2715 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Probably. There's no stable release for 1.4.2 on bukkit yet
#2716 [22:44] <rancidfann> cause i was on earlier and about 30 min into playing it crashed
#2717 [22:44] <rancidfann> :(
#2718 [22:44] <Destructoman72> how do i fix a error that basically said that a software broke my connection to the server
#2719 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> You can check out bukkit releases at: http://bukkit.org/
#2720 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Destructoman72 - Depends on what the error says.
#2721 [22:45] <Destructoman72> where would i find all the errors that happen
#2722 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> On your screen, when it occurs?
#2723 [22:45] <Destructoman72> well after that because i havent been able to connect to the server all day
#2724 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> What server?
#2725 [22:46] <Destructoman72> it is called RhinoCouch
#2726 [22:46] <Destructoman72> it has happened about five times over two days
#2727 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> It isn't updated to 1.4.2 as of yet
#2728 [22:47] <rancidfann> my server i guess resets your stats after 1 week of no loggin do you know if there is away to keep that from happening?
#2729 [22:47] <Destructoman72> it updated cause i was on it yesterday with 1.4.2
#2730 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> If it's modded, then it's up to you to figure out which mod caused it, rancidfann.
#2731 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> stats don't automatically reset themselves in vanilla.
#2732 [22:48] <rancidfann> hmmm alright lol im so clueless with this stuff, im not modded but the server i play on is
#2733 [22:48] <Destructoman72> so i dont know why that error happens
#2734 [22:48] <Destructoman72> is it because i have itunes or any other app open
#2735 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> No.
#2736 [22:49] <Destructoman72> is it possible it is mods?
#2737 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Could be, depends on the error
#2738 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> There's not just one error that can occur. Would help if you gave the full error text here.
#2739 [22:52] <Destructoman72> is there a way to view all of the errors that happen after they happen
#2740 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> If it's just a connection error, no. If minecraft crashes, it'll create a crash report with files starting with hs_err_pid.
#2741 [22:53] <Destructoman72> ok
#2742 [22:53] <Destructoman72> if i find it on the internet i will tell u what it says
#2743 [22:56] <Destructoman72> when the error happens it starts with java.net not java.lang
#2744 [22:56] <Destructoman72> so is it a install problem or what
#2745 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Wait, what?
#2746 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me the full and exact error text?
#2747 [22:57] <Destructoman72> without it happening again no
#2748 [22:58] <Destructoman72> if only it all errors had a record
#2749 [22:58] <Destructoman72> i think this is it
#2750 [22:58] <Destructoman72> Internal exception:java.net.SocketException:Connection Reset
#2751 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Means the server is either not accepting connections, or is down
#2752 [22:59] <Destructoman72> ok cause this happened when the server update and it went from bukkit 1.3.2 to vanilla 1.4.2
#2753 [23:00] <Destructoman72> the error i ant completely sure about
#2754 [23:00] <Destructoman72> which one it is
#2755 [23:02] <Destructoman72> so how come it happened when it update
#2756 [23:02] <Destructoman72> this is definitely the one
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#2759 [23:05] <Destructoman72> i just tried to connect to the server and it said failed to connect to the server Connection timed out:connect
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#2761 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Server isn't running
#2762 [23:06] <Destructoman72> ok what if i were to get that when other people are on because i had that happen earlier today
#2763 [23:08] <Destructoman72> cause cael tried to connect while other people were on and it didnt even let him ping the server
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#2768 [23:19] <Borrisio> Hello, I am having issues logging in to a minecraft server, and the error i get is "Operation Timed Out"
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#2770 [23:30] <Borrisio> Hello, I am having issues logging in to a minecraft server, and the error i get is "Operation Timed Out"
#2771 [23:30] <Semtexturnip> I can't move in Minecraft, I can only look around and place/destroy blocks. Sometimes I can move, but after 20 seconds, I'm stuck again. Any help?
#2772 [23:33] <Borrisio> Hello, I am having issues logging in to a minecraft server, and the error i get is "Operation Timed Out"
#2773 [23:33] <Borrisio> anyone that can help with that?
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#2776 [23:35] <Semtexturnip> I can't move in Minecraft, I can only look around and place/destroy blocks. Sometimes I can move, but after 20 seconds, I'm stuck again. Any help? I've been searching for an answer for a week now.
#2777 [23:36] <Semtexturnip> I would really appreciate the help.
#2778 [23:36] <Whatshiywl> do you use any mods?
#2779 [23:36] <Semtexturnip> no.
#2780 [23:36] <Whatshiywl> what version are you using?
#2781 [23:36] <Semtexturnip> 1.3.2
#2782 [23:37] <Whatshiywl> does it happen on single player?
#2783 [23:37] <Semtexturnip> yes.
#2784 [23:37] <Whatshiywl> on all of your maps?
#2785 [23:37] <Semtexturnip> yeah.
#2786 [23:37] <Whatshiywl> how much RAM do you have?
#2787 [23:38] <Semtexturnip> Nt sure, but I have a normal Mac Book Pro Laptop, does that help?
#2788 [23:38] <Whatshiywl> acctualy, that's no good. idk how stuff goes on macs...
#2789 [23:39] <Whatshiywl> try to find an information on how much ram you'v got
#2790 [23:39] <Semtexturnip> about 4gb to 8gb.
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#2793 [23:40] <Whatshiywl> well
#2794 [23:41] <Borrisio> Hello, I am having issues logging in to a minecraft server, and the error i get is "Operation Timed Out"
#2795 [23:41] <Whatshiywl> idk then D:
#2796 [23:41] <Whatshiywl> Borrisio: what's the version of the server you are trying to log into?
#2797 [23:41] <Semtexturnip> It's not glitchy, it's just I get stuck.
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#2799 [23:42] <Whatshiywl> Semtexturnip: try to reinstall minecraft maybe? :S
#2800 [23:42] <Borrisio> 1.3.2
#2801 [23:43] <Borrisio> The server is 1.3.2
#2802 [23:43] <Whatshiywl> Borrisio have you updated your minecraft for 1.4 yet?
#2803 [23:43] <Semtexturnip> So, go to minecraft.net and download the files again?
#2804 [23:43] <Whatshiywl> yes Semtexturnip
#2805 [23:44] <Borrisio> No I haven't
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#2809 [23:45] <Whatshiywl> Borrisio have you tryed logging into any other server?
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#2813 [23:48] <Semtexturnip> Reinstalling didn't help :/
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#2815 [23:50] <Borrisio> Yes, I can log into other servers
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