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#4 [00:11] <kiugetski> !check qcmc.zapto.org
#5 [00:11] <Andrio> 10000 players.
#6 [00:11] <Andrio> How is that possible?!
#7 [00:12] <kiugetski> if you could see my machines
#8 [00:12] <kiugetski> im working on a mmorpg
#9 [00:12] <kiugetski> :P
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#14 [00:26] <Wug> Andrio: its not
#15 [00:26] <Wug> if that machine had 10000 players on one minecraft server, it would promptly explode
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#17 [00:27] <Wug> the physics are simple. If we say (a very conservative estimate) that a server uses 1 watt of power for each player, that server will be pulling more than 10000 watts
#18 [00:28] <Wug> chances are that if you pulled that much power through its PSU, there would be a little bang and some smoke
#19 [00:29] <kiugetski> well
#20 [00:29] <kiugetski> it consist in a multiple machine of 12 and more cores
#21 [00:29] <Wug> it would also be pulling about 80 amps on a 120 volt wall outlet, or enough to trip 4 20 amp breakers in parallel
#22 [00:31] <kiugetski> well i have no problem with that :)
#23 [00:31] <Wug> it would cost over $1000/month to pay for that electricity
#24 [00:31] <kiugetski> nop
#25 [00:31] <kiugetski> solar electricity
#26 [00:31] <Wug> assuming you could run it at that level continuously
#27 [00:31] <kiugetski> its free for me
#28 [00:31] <kiugetski> :)
#29 [00:33] <Wug> it wont be if you use that much
#30 [00:33] <Wug> btw, that's 50 square meters of solar panels
#31 [00:34] <Wug> assuming you collect enough to run the server overnight, and can store energy perfectly efficiently, and it's always summer
#32 [00:35] <Wug> realistically youd be looking at about quadruple that since during winter there is less sun intensity for less time
#33 [00:35] <Wug> and rainy days and all
#34 [00:35] <Wug> I hope you dont live near seattle
#35 [00:35] <kiugetski> the dim light show no diference :)
#36 [00:36] <kiugetski> i use less energi then they produce so they always are full
#37 [00:36] <Wug> :|
#38 [00:36] <Wug> energy doesnt keep well
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#40 [00:37] <Wug> by the way, I reckon that 200 m^s of solar panels will run you about $80,000
#41 [00:37] <kiugetski> i ve may more money then that with d2
#42 [00:37] <kiugetski> :)
#43 [00:37] <Wug> this still doesn't solve the problem of running 10 kilowatts through your motherboard
#44 [00:37] <kiugetski> i used to have a shop
#45 [00:38] <Wug> minecraft doesnt scale well to multiple cores on the same machine, let alone multiple machines
#46 [00:38] <kiugetski> its not only 1 bord XD
#47 [00:38] <Wug> it might as well be
#48 [00:38] <Wug> top of the line hardware today can support about 500 players, and its horribly laggy
#49 [00:38] <kiugetski> there is allready some server with over 3k players
#50 [00:39] <kiugetski> so i have no prob
#51 [00:39] <Wug> next question
#52 [00:39] <kiugetski> and i dont want to talk about it anymore
#53 [00:39] <kiugetski> just google it
#54 [00:39] <Wug> just google it isnt an argument
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#57 [00:41] <SinZ> I have yet to see a decent clustered minecraft server design, and even then, 10,000 is pushing it.
#58 [00:41] <Wug> I have never seen a clustered minecraft server design that actually worked (multiple worlds on multiple servers doesnt count)
#59 [00:42] <Wug> and I've never even heard of a server with more than 500 people that wasnt laggy
#60 [00:42] <Wug> hell, most dont get to 150 without being really laggy
#61 [00:42] <SinZ> I remember a friend was working on one, gave up half way through, and made it into a standalone server, project died of inactivity
#62 [00:42] <Wug> I hope he doesn't spend $100000 on some impossible frankenproject
#63 [00:43] <SinZ> even then, wouldnt the OS limit the number of sockets
#64 [00:43] <Wug> if I had a gigabit ethernet port installed onto my brain we'd already have clustered server software
#65 [00:43] <Wug> it would even be efficient
#66 [00:43] <Wug> unfortunately, my finger bandwidth isn't good enough to bother
#67 [00:44] <Wug> no amount of intellisense can write as much code as it would need
#68 [00:44] <Wug> it would take me 10 years to do it by hand
#69 [00:45] <SinZ> also, a server with 10k people online at once, the chat would be unusable
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#72 [00:46] <Wug> that problem at least is easy to fix
#73 [00:47] <mau5ie> Mute everyone?
#74 [00:47] <Wug> I was thinking geographic broadcasts
#75 [00:47] <Wug> easy to implement
#76 [00:47] <Wug> totally doesnt suck
#77 [00:48] <Wug> I mean come on
#78 [00:48] <Wug> entity collisions are O(n^2) for the number of entities in a given small area
#79 [00:49] <Wug> 400 or 500 entities on a regular server can cause so much load that they slow down time
#80 [00:49] <Wug> for the whole server
#81 [00:49] <Wug> if you had 10000 people in a small area, ticks would take hours
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#89 [01:15] <Disori> .choose .choose tv, planetside 2
#90 [01:15] <Disori> woops
#91 [01:16] <Disori> double woops..
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#94 [01:20] <oliver8867> We have lost the download of this game and the purchase code. We still have a premium account registered. How do we reinstall the game and keep the same account??
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#96 [01:22] <oliver8867_> Our computer crashed and had to be formatted, so we lost the download of minecraft. Do not have the original purchase codes but still registered. How do we obtained the game again??
#97 [01:23] <Disori> Your usage of "we" scares me. but simply go http://minecraft.net/download and download the correct file. then run it and put in your account. then you're done
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#99 [01:27] <oliver8867_> Thanks for your help - I use 'we' on behalf of my 9-year-old son, as I monitor what he plays. Thanks again will try this again!
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#112 [02:27] <huddler> ok anyone there i need some help this is a long shot but need some help
#113 [02:28] <huddler> anyone there
#114 [02:28] <Andrio> Ask your question.
#115 [02:29] <huddler> ok so i just upgraded to win 8
#116 [02:30] <huddler> and im having problems with minecraft
#117 [02:30] <huddler> when i click the icon on my desktop it takes for ever to bring up the launcher and then its very laggy takes it about a minate after i hit the login button before it does anything
#118 [02:31] <Andrio> oh.
#119 [02:31] <Andrio> I'm not familiar with Windows 8.
#120 [02:31] <Andrio> sorry.
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#122 [02:32] <Andrio> Someone else here might be, though.
#123 [02:34] <huddler> think everyone else is AFK
#124 [02:34] <huddler> and if i dont get it to work im going to have to give windows 8 up
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#128 [02:42] <DopeGhoti> !topic add Windows 8 issues? Try disabling Metro.
#129 [02:42] <Andrio> Windows 8? Try disabling Metro.
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#132 [02:50] <DopeGhoti> Metro _is_ a Windows 8 issue :/
#133 [02:51] <Andrio> I've read that it works well... on tablets.
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#139 [03:03] <TheNoodle> Works fine on desktops as well
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#157 [04:32] <SinZ> when I used win8 on my small machine, minecraft attempted to run fine, but had no drivers for win8, so I got bad pixel format
#158 [04:32] <SinZ> (this was rc1)
#159 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> SinZ: can we see a dxdiag report?
#160 [04:34] <SinZ> it was ages ago, the machine runs ubuntu server now
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#162 [04:35] <DystaN> it now says that you can create a village anywhere
#163 [04:35] <DystaN> how do I go along to do this ?
#164 [04:35] <SinZ> potion of weakness + golden apple on a zombie villager = regular villager
#165 [04:35] <DystaN> also to restore desolate villages
#166 [04:35] <SinZ> and you can use them to populate a man-made village
#167 [04:35] <DystaN> ahhhhh
#168 [04:36] <DystaN> so randomly the zombies will be infected villagers
#169 [04:36] <DystaN> and then I save em
#170 [04:36] <SinZ> yep
#171 [04:36] <DystaN> any exploits or glitches that allow you to grow lily pads ?
#172 [04:36] <SinZ> it was 5% chance iirc of zombie villager
#173 [04:36] <SinZ> none that I know of
#174 [04:36] <DystaN> how do I use the xp command to take away xp ?
#175 [04:37] <SinZ> ./xp -9001
#176 [04:37] <SinZ> cant remove levels though
#177 [04:38] <DystaN> whats the difference ?
#178 [04:38] <SinZ> you can take away progress
#179 [04:38] <SinZ> so if the bar was half full, you can set it to empty, but they will keep their current level.
#180 [04:39] <DystaN> I accidentaly raised my level to 5000
#181 [04:39] <DystaN> lol
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#183 [04:40] <DystaN> when I use the command spawnpoint
#184 [04:40] <DystaN> it gives me my nickname and the coordinates to my new spawn point
#185 [04:40] <DystaN> does this change affect other players ?
#186 [04:41] <DystaN> if not , how do I change the main spawn point for everyone ?
#187 [04:43] <SinZ> You cant change the global spawnpoint within vannila minecraft
#188 [04:43] <SinZ> but, you can use a tool like NBTEdit to change the spawn coords in level.dat
#189 [04:44] <SinZ> and to fix your xp issue, suicide will fix it, or mass enchanting
#190 [04:44] <DystaN> yeah
#191 [04:44] <DystaN> already took care of that
#192 [04:45] <DystaN> thank you super Sinz
#193 [04:45] <SinZ> no problem
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#195 [04:47] <DystaN> will the mooshrooms breed with regular cows now ?
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#197 [04:48] <DystaN> nope
#198 [04:50] <SinZ> they never did
#199 [04:50] <SinZ> and never will, seperate mobs
#200 [04:51] <DystaN> very hard to get a mooshroom by legit ways
#201 [04:51] <SinZ> actually, they can, but its a random chance whether the baby will be mooshroom or not.
#202 [04:51] <DystaN> they can ???
#203 [04:51] <SinZ> and on my private server, we have found over 4 mushroom biomes now
#204 [04:51] <DystaN> just spawned one of each
#205 [04:52] <DystaN> lemme try again
#206 [04:52] <SinZ> owait, 1.2.5 removed it
#207 [04:52] <SinZ> not quite sure why, it was an interesting concept
#208 [04:52] <DystaN> no , not anymore :(
#209 [04:53] <DystaN> must sacrifice useless cows
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#211 [04:53] <SinZ> regular cows are useless when one has mooshrooms anyway
#212 [04:53] <DystaN> only found one mooshroom biome
#213 [04:54] <DystaN> and its so far from my house it would be impossible to bring em here
#214 [04:54] <SinZ> can be milked with a bucket, stewed with a bowl, and when you kill them, same drops as a regular cow
#215 [04:54] <SinZ> Nether tunnel
#216 [04:54] <DystaN> would be the largest tunnel evah
#217 [04:54] <DystaN> well
#218 [04:54] <DystaN> it would be pretty long
#219 [04:56] <SinZ> How far away is it
#220 [04:56] <SinZ> because nether coordinates are divided by 8
#221 [04:56] <SinZ> and on my private server, our first nether tunnel was 2.1k long
#222 [04:57] <DystaN> holy friggin
#223 [04:57] <SinZ> Doesnt take THAT long, used a doublechest of stone pickaxes
#224 [04:58] <DystaN> mushroom is at Z 19801
#225 [04:59] <DystaN> my house is at z -6382
#226 [05:01] <SinZ> ~3.2k long tunnel
#227 [05:01] <DystaN> no sir
#228 [05:01] <DystaN> :D
#229 [05:02] <DystaN> how would I do ?
#230 [05:02] <DystaN> build nether tunnel
#231 [05:02] <DystaN> get out to overworld
#232 [05:02] <DystaN> make tracks all the way back ?
#233 [05:03] <DystaN> well
#234 [05:03] <SinZ> tracks arn't worth it
#235 [05:03] <SinZ> unless you have a good 20stacks of iron
#236 [05:03] <DystaN> now it says that mobs travel to nether
#237 [05:03] <DystaN> so
#238 [05:03] <DystaN> well
#239 [05:03] <DystaN> I was just wanting to have everything in my house
#240 [05:03] <DystaN> how would I bring the little cows ?
#241 [05:03] <SinZ> just crouch and walk through the tunnel with your cows via wheat
#242 [05:04] <DystaN> holy shit
#243 [05:05] <DystaN> thats a long way
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#248 [05:48] <Myx0x3> Hey guys, i just open my minecraft server again, updated the server client and the normal client.. but i get this when i try to connect: http://pastebin.com/9e8THiSm :( im running java version "1.6.0_07" on FreeBSD
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#250 [05:49] <Morrolan> Uh, is your system time correct?
#251 [05:50] <Myx0x3> Morrolan: good question..
#252 [05:50] <Morrolan> There were also some other possible issues which Disk.Daemon mentioned once, but I'll wait with poking him 'till we're sure that it's not the system time. :)
#253 [05:51] <Morrolan> Eh, he's probably asleep, anyway. :P
#254 [05:51] <Myx0x3> Morrolan: how do i change the timezone in FreeBSD? the rc.conf file? :P
#255 [05:52] <SinZ> something like that
#256 [05:52] <SinZ> but if in doubt, google is your friend
#257 [05:52] <Morrolan> Uh, doesn't it use /etc/localtime?
#258 [05:53] <Morrolan> (i.e. copy the appropriate timezone-file from some folder to /etc/localtime)
#259 [05:54] <Morrolan> Actually, a symlink might be a cleaner solution.
#260 [05:54] <Morrolan> But yea, Google should tell. *shrug*
#261 [05:54] <Morrolan> Depending on what DE you use there might even be a GUI tool for it.
#262 [05:54] <Morrolan> (If you use any DE at all.)
#263 [05:55] * Morrolan should stop talking to himself
#263 [05:55] <Myx0x3> Morrolan: yeah, i found! "cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/CET /etc/localtime"
#264 [05:55] <Myx0x3> but i still have the problem :(
#265 [05:55] <Myx0x3> it throws me same errors
#266 [05:56] <Morrolan> Well, timezone being correct is nice and all, but did you check the actual time & date?
#267 [05:56] <Morrolan> 'date' should show the currently set time and date.
#268 [05:57] <Myx0x3> # date Wed Nov 14 11:56:49 CET 2012
#269 [05:57] <Myx0x3> its correctly
#270 [05:58] <Morrolan> Google brought up this thread, fourth post: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1392525-javasecurityproviderexception-nextbytes-failed-on-client-login/
#271 [05:58] <Morrolan> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/connection-lost-end-of-stream-v-bukkit-1-3-1-r1-r2.92897/ advocates the same solution.
#272 [05:59] <Myx0x3> Morrolan: yupp, that fixed it..
#273 [05:59] <Morrolan> :)
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#275 [05:59] <Myx0x3> Morrolan: thanks :9
#276 [06:00] <Morrolan> Sure thing.
#277 [06:00] <Myx0x3> guess its a "bug" that came with some new update..
#278 [06:00] <Myx0x3> in FreeBSD, or some versions of linux?
#279 [06:00] <Myx0x3> cause ive never had this problem bfore :)
#280 [06:01] <Morrolan> Seems to be caused by FreeBSD's /dev/urandom being a symlink to /dev/random
#281 [06:01] <Myx0x3> oh
#282 [06:01] <Morrolan> No clue why Java's virtual machine would have issues with it, but hey. ^^
#283 [06:02] <Myx0x3> "but hey i just meet you so heres my /dev/null" lol
#284 [06:03] <Morrolan> That would make a lousy number generator for the encryption. :P
#285 [06:03] <Myx0x3> hehe
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#299 [06:40] <Morrolan> ++ freebsd/securityexception|The JVM seems to have issues with FreeBSD symlinking /dev/urandom to /dev/random, which can lead to a traceback like this: https://pastebin.com/9e8THiSm;;This can be fixed by launching Minecraft with '-Djava.security.egd=file:/dev/random'.
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#301 [06:40] <Morrolan> Err.
#302 [06:40] <Morrolan> ??+ freebsd/securityexception|The JVM seems to have issues with FreeBSD symlinking /dev/urandom to /dev/random, which can lead to a traceback like this: https://pastebin.com/9e8THiSm;;This can be fixed by launching Minecraft with '-Djava.security.egd=file:/dev/random'.
#303 [06:41] <Morrolan> ?? freebsd/securityexception
#304 [06:41] <VoxelHead> freebsd/securityexception: The JVM seems to have issues with FreeBSD symlinking /dev/urandom to /dev/random, which can lead to a traceback like this: https://pastebin.com/9e8THiSm
#305 [06:41] <VoxelHead> freebsd/securityexception: This can be fixed by launching Minecraft with '-Djava.security.egd=file:/dev/random'.
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#328 [07:31] <Corin> i do Iguana
#329 [07:31] <Corin> I DO
#330 [07:31] <Iguana> no
#331 [07:31] <Corin> k
#332 [07:31] <Iguana> k
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#337 [07:59] <killerpeg> Hi I keep getting a white screen when trying to log in to minecraft
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#341 [08:02] <Lutzee> ??> killerpeg forceupdate
#342 [08:02] <VoxelHead> killerpeg: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#343 [08:02] <VoxelHead> killerpeg: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#344 [08:03] <killerpeg> sorry guys this is my 7 year olds game I will see if I can do the above thanks I may be back in a minute
#345 [08:05] <killerpeg> right i clicked on "minecraft" then play in your browser. This then loads a screen then it goes white and stops
#346 [08:05] <Lutzee> Oh right...
#347 [08:05] <Lutzee> Not using the launcher
#348 [08:05] <killerpeg> ???
#349 [08:05] <Lutzee> You can download a launcher that will run the game outside of a browser at minecraft.net/download
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#363 [08:46] <Poly> My server IP has changed, why would this happen?
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#371 [09:38] <Kradofski> Hello, I am trying to dowbload a minecraft server up the. .exe is not working??
#372 [09:38] <Kradofski> On tge minecraft page?!?
#373 [09:40] <Andrio> How
#374 [09:40] <Andrio> How's it not working?
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#376 [09:41] <Kradofski> New page says Xml file does not appear to have any stule info, giving me a document tree
#377 [09:42] <Kradofski> While page with code on it
#378 [09:42] <Andrio> Are you trying to download the server software from minecraft.net?
#379 [09:42] <Kradofski> Yeah it's too update my old one?!?
#380 [09:44] <Andrio> Go to minecraft.net
#381 [09:44] <Andrio> click 11Download on the right side of the page
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#383 [09:45] <Andrio> then there will be a link to download 11Minecraft_Server.exe.
#384 [09:46] <TheNoodle> Minecraft support. Now with 11colours!
#385 [09:47] <Kradofski> Ok that worked, thanks
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#387 [09:47] <Andrio> :)
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#389 [09:49] <Kradofski> Ta :D hey is there any way of setting certain people to only alowed to do limeted things on my server?
#390 [09:50] <xpurgatoryx> for some reason i put my username and password into the minecraft and it wont do anything. i tried my email then username. whats up?
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#392 [09:50] <Andrio> Kradofski: well, you can give people 'operator' status, so that they can use commands in the in-game chat, and mess with the spawn area
#393 [09:50] <Andrio> Kradofski: you can't get any more specific than that with the official server software, though.
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#395 [09:52] <Kradofski> Ah fair whats the new comands about?? Umm I tgink. It was rules??
#396 [09:52] <Andrio> I haven't updated my server yet, so I'm not sure on that.
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#398 [09:52] <Andrio> 11/help will give you a list of commands though.
#399 [09:53] <Kradofski> Ah ok np thanks for ur help anyways
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#401 [09:54] <Kradofski> Any jobs going with minecraft that I can be of any use?
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#437 [11:03] * Calinou just removed windows and put xubuntu instead
#437 [11:03] <Calinou> 8D
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#447 [11:13] <mib_aikxrq> hello
#448 [11:14] <mib_aikxrq> where can i find an email adress from mojand (minecraft) ?? i have to ask an question ...
#449 [11:15] <Calinou> mib_aikxrq: don't ask to ask, ask here..
#450 [11:15] <Calinou> if you have account issues see http://help.mojang.com
#451 [11:15] <mib_aikxrq> i dont have an account issue and my english is not so good ;)
#452 [11:16] <mib_aikxrq> i I am working on my own homepage, which is not online yet.
#453 [11:17] <Selbram> Do you need legal advice?\
#454 [11:17] <mib_aikxrq> So I am want to ask, if I am allowed to use the minecraft game-logo on my homepage. All rights will still be reserved for minecraft/mojang company of course. The point is that the logo should be placed right next to the game-description.
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#456 [11:18] <Selbram> https://minecraft.net/brand-guidelines
#457 [11:21] <Calinou> non-free art ahoy!
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#460 [11:23] <cornelius> hello... im back again... so i am allowed to use the minecraft logo for the game-description?
#461 [11:24] <Selbram> https://minecraft.net/brand-guidelines
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#469 [11:43] <deathreaper420> I'm trying to update my minecraft. after i login it gets stuck on updating and won't move, i waited for 30 min, i turned off all antivirus and allowed in my firewall and even turned it off. still wont update.
#470 [11:44] <deathreaper420> windows 7
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#472 [11:51] <MadManning> I just updated to 1.4.2 but the server I play on hasn't.... How can I go back?
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#474 [11:54] <Calinou> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar
#475 [11:54] <Calinou> (replace minecraft.jar in your %appdata%/.minecraft/bin folder)
#476 [11:55] <MadManning> Checking....
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#478 [11:59] <Gletob> Any word on downgrading to 1.4.2? I've tried MC Downgrade but it says server not available. MC Nostalgia doesn't detect the vanilla files.
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#480 [12:00] <MadManning> Thankyou Calinou! - allgood!
#481 [12:00] <Calinou> no problem
#482 [12:01] <Calinou> Gletob: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_2/minecraft.jar
#483 [12:01] <Calinou> (replace minecraft.jar in your %appdata%/.minecraft/bin folder)
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#485 [12:02] <Gletob> Thanks!
#486 [12:02] <MadManning> Now it says "outdated client"....
#487 [12:03] <MadManning> that was 1.3.2
#488 [12:04] <MadManning> what was before 1.4.2?
#489 [12:04] <Calinou> current is 1.4.4, previous was 1.4.2, previous was 1.3.2
#490 [12:05] <MadManning> oh hmmmm.
#491 [12:05] <Calinou> http://assets.minecraft.net/M_m_p/minecraft.jar < syntac. M is major version, m minor, p patch
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#493 [12:05] <Calinou> note that very old versions are not available though
#494 [12:05] <Calinou> examples of versions: 1_3_2, 1_4_2...
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#496 [12:05] <MadManning> ok maybe its 1.4.2 and i upgraded to 1.4.4 - checking
#497 [12:07] <MadManning> Yep that was it.... THANKS!
#498 [12:07] <Calinou> no problem
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#507 [12:34] <fredan> i having issue changing my skin
#508 [12:34] <fredan> i'm*
#509 [12:35] <fredan> i need help with my minecraft account
#510 [12:35] * Fre3bie|Zzz is now known as Fre3bie
#511 [12:37] <fredan> is anyone gonna help me?
#512 [12:40] <Selbram> Whats wrong?
#513 [12:41] <fredan> the minecraft web site said i need to buy the game in order to change my skin but i already bought it months ago
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#515 [12:42] <Selbram> ok
#516 [12:42] <Selbram> so what is the problem?
#517 [12:42] <Selbram> login to minecraft.net and change your skin
#518 [12:43] <fredan> yeah but it said i need to buy it first
#519 [12:43] <fredan> i already have it on my computer and have been playing it
#520 [12:45] <Smanly> ?? mcnet/paid
#521 [12:45] <Smanly> ?? mc.net/paid
#522 [12:45] <VoxelHead> mc.net/paid: There is a very simple way to see whether Mojang believes your account is paid for or not. Log in at https://account.mojang.com/me and look for a 'My Games' heading. If you don't see Minecraft listed there, nor in My Gift Codes, then Mojang has not received your monies.
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#533 [13:09] <Eonwe77> Hi, my problem is that I can't join an Minecraft Server, thought they are not down... I already checked whether my firewall blocks minecraft/java but thats not the case... what do I have to do to play online?
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#535 [13:11] <Smanly> Eonwe77: What version are you anr the server on?
#536 [13:13] <Eonwe77> yesterday it I was on 1.4.2, the server idk... now I'm 1.4.4
#537 [13:14] <Eplemosen> Eonwe77: It's possible that the server isn't updated yet.
#538 [13:15] <Eonwe77> I guess since there is a new version out there will be more confusion bout this, but I tried to play yesterday and I simply tried the two servers shown in the multiplayer list... I hope its just that the servers aren't updated yet
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#540 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> it's almost definitely that.
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#544 [13:21] <Eonwe77> ok thx
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#553 [13:44] <jonnny> Hi guys, just bought minecraft for 360 but when playing split screen with my son, the second player cannot dig... Any ideas what I'm doing wrong pls?
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#556 [13:45] <Hardlad> I am unable to play MInecraft, becuse it says "Bad video card drivers" when I start it up on Windows 8.
#557 [13:45] <Grim_Reaper> If I recall Minecraft isn't working on Windows 8 yet
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#559 [13:46] <Hardlad> I was told it is!
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#561 [13:46] <Hardlad> It was on Notches twitter
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#565 [13:46] <Grim_Reaper> Didn't even give me a chance to suggest updating stuff
#566 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 6
#567 [13:47] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 6 = Windows 8 issues? Try disabling Metro. ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti | Wed Nov 14 00:40:10 MST 2012 ]
#568 [13:48] <jonnny> Anyone know how to fix my problem with not being to dig using split screen on second player?
#569 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> split screen?
#570 [13:49] <Selbram> xbox
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#572 [13:49] <jonnny> Yes sorry, split screen on 360
#573 [13:50] <DopeGhoti> ah. There I can't help you; I never picked up MC360
#574 [13:51] <Tayster> hello can someone help me set up my hungergames plugin and gettign goin?
#575 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> Tayster mods
#576 [13:51] <VoxelHead> Tayster: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#577 [13:51] <VoxelHead> Tayster: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#578 [13:53] <Tayster> :(
#579 [13:53] <Tayster> k
#580 [13:53] <Tayster> k
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#583 [13:56] <Mani> my driver cards are bad help
#584 [13:56] <Selbram> install updated drivers
#585 [13:57] <Mani> it says bad
#586 [13:57] <Mani> BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 14/11/12 18:51
#587 [13:59] <Mani> ?
#588 [13:59] <Eplemosen> Mani: update your drivers
#589 [13:59] <Selbram> as I said before, update your drive5rs
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#591 [14:00] <Mani> there up to date it still wont let me play
#592 [14:00] <Selbram> if it says bad, then they are not
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#594 [14:02] <Mani> so what do i do when there up to date
#595 [14:03] <Selbram> it will work
#596 [14:03] <Selbram> ?? win/dxdiag
#597 [14:03] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#598 [14:03] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#599 [14:15] <Mani> iv done it
#600 [14:17] <Mani> hello
#601 [14:18] <Selbram> use pastebin to send all your info so I can look at it
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#603 [14:19] <Scynthe> Hello
#604 [14:19] <Mani> hi
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#606 [14:20] <Scynthe> anyone familair with modded multiplayer?
#607 [14:20] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#608 [14:20] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#609 [14:20] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#634 [14:56] <Tokyothedrifter> Hi is there any way to downgrade to 1.4.2 please beacuse all the servers i play are on that version and i got 1.4.4
#635 [14:58] <MK> Next time back up your minecraft.jar before you update! As far as I know there's no official way to downgrade
#636 [14:59] <MK> hm
#637 [14:59] <Selbram> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_2/minecraft.jar
#638 [14:59] <MK> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_2/minecraft.jar perhaps?
#639 [14:59] <MK> ah
#640 [14:59] <MK> yeah
#641 [14:59] <MK> there you go :)
#642 [15:00] <DiskDaemon> Yes there is - go to assets.minecraft.net and ... yes that
#643 [15:00] <MK> I was not aware it was that easy X)
#644 [15:00] <Selbram> apparently we all scroll at about the same speed lol
#645 [15:01] <MK> How far back does it keep versions?
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#649 [15:11] <daddya> help
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#651 [15:11] <daddya> i dont know how to backdate from 1.4.4 to 1.4.2
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#653 [15:12] <DiskDaemon> You replace in the .minecraft/bin folder the existing 1.4.4 version of minecraft.jar with the 1.4.2 version of minecraft.jar that you have obtained
#654 [15:12] <Selbram> with the power of google you can find out
#655 [15:13] <Selbram> something like "downgrade minecraft" should get you directly to what you are looking for
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#662 [15:22] <Deathspawn> should just throw that in the topic or chanserv message... though i doubt some people will read it.
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#674 [15:37] <kh> hi
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#680 [15:44] <Refurius> Hi guys, somehow I can't connect to Servers nor can I host one. This started yesterday at about 10pm. I tried everything, tracerts pings direct connection to the modem without the router inbetwene. A friend then hosted a server to which I can not join. I have no clue on what to do next.
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#682 [15:45] <AG_Clinton> Do you have a firewall or antivirus?
#683 [15:45] <onix> how do i change my nick its not alloweing me to change my nick to what i have registered already
#684 [15:45] <frdmn|zZz> use /msg nickserv ghost <yournick> <pass>
#685 [15:45] <frdmn|zZz> in that case
#686 [15:45] <onix> i have one already
#687 [15:45] <onix> how do i go to it
#688 [15:46] <frdmn|zZz> ./nick <nick> ?
#689 [15:46] <Refurius> firewall is deactivated. I do have a antivir, security essentials from MS. however that was never a problem
#690 [15:46] <onix> i tried /nick <nick> and its not letting kme change it
#691 [15:46] <frdmn|zZz> then do the other command
#692 [15:46] <itzmjauz> Refurius: Port forwarded yet ?
#693 [15:46] <frdmn|zZz> that i wrote
#694 [15:46] <Refurius> port forwarding is also setup correctly
#695 [15:46] <itzmjauz> Refurius: Have you ever ran a server before ?
#696 [15:46] <itzmjauz> Refurius: ( which worked )
#697 [15:47] <Refurius> yes the serevr was running until yesterday, Was running for about a month now and then just stopped.
#698 [15:47] <Refurius> i conntacted the ISp but they say the problem is not comming from them = /
#699 [15:48] <Refurius> by "stopped" i mean that no one outside my lan can connect to it
#700 [15:48] <itzmjauz> Hmmm. try pinging the servers IP, see what you get
#701 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Confirmed that you're using the correct public ip address?
#702 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Confirmed that your port forwarding settings are still correct?
#703 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Are you using static or DCHP addressing on your server on your LAN?
#704 [15:49] <Refurius> yes and yes. Static IP adress, portfwd is correct
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#707 [15:49] <Refurius> I did setup several servers befor and until yesterday everything was ok
#708 [15:50] <Arne> hello
#709 [15:50] <frdmn|zZz> Refurius: do you have netcat installed?
#710 [15:50] <Refurius> No i have not.
#711 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> Refurius: double-check that the internal IP your router is forwarding to is in fact the actual internal address to which the MC server is binding?
#712 [15:50] <Refurius> I will doublecheck that dope
#713 [15:51] <Arne> I�am very new to minecraft and I�ve got a problem by starting the game. on win7 I start mc and the world is building fine, but then I can�t move, can�t do anything in the world and the view is jumping up and down. can someone help me? :)
#714 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> Arne specs
#715 [15:52] <VoxelHead> Arne: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
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#718 [15:52] <Skillex> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
#719 [15:52] <Skillex> Time: 11/14/12 9:50 PM
#720 [15:52] <Skillex> Description: Exception in world tick
#721 [15:52] <Skillex> java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException
#722 [15:52] <Skillex> at java.lang.System.arraycopy(Native Method)
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#724 [15:52] <frdmn|zZz> lol
#725 [15:52] <frdmn|zZz> :D
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#727 [15:53] <Arne> VoxelHead: quadcore cpu 2.8ghz, 64bit win7 pro, 8GB ram, 512gb ssd, latest java
#728 [15:53] <qrupe> Hello, i wonder how you can make a server that is online 24/7
#729 [15:53] <qrupe> can you help me?
#730 [15:53] <frdmn|zZz> Skillex: use http://pastebin.com
#731 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> qrupe smp/serversetup
#732 [15:53] <VoxelHead> qrupe: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#733 [15:53] <VoxelHead> qrupe: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#734 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> qrupe - By either paying a server host to do so, or having a computer running 24/7
#735 [15:53] <Skillex> FFs
#736 [15:53] <qrupe> thx
#737 [15:53] <Smanly> DopeGhoti: Someone else had that issue. The view would nod up and down. But he said it was only in one of his worlds.
#738 [15:53] <Smanly> Arne: Try creating a new world.
#739 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> Smanly: interesting.
#740 [15:54] <Skillex> http://pastebin.com/U0DNqwK0
#741 [15:54] <Skillex> DopeGhoti
#742 [15:54] <Skillex> My latest crash report
#743 [15:54] <Skillex> :D
#744 [15:54] <Arne> Smanly, I tried that now 4 times, all local worlds. but all the same problem
#745 [15:54] <Smanly> Arne: Have you tried an SMP server?
#746 [15:54] <Arne> no
#747 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> ??> Skillex java/1.7
#748 [15:55] <Refurius> ok checked the forwarding and IP everything is ok, setup a vanilla minecraft 1.4.2 server to which i can connect via the static IP
#749 [15:55] <VoxelHead> Skillex: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 known to be incompatible with Minecraft in many cases. Please install Java 1.6. http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#750 [15:55] <Arne> how do I do that?
#751 [15:55] <Smanly> Arne: Go to Multiplayer
#752 [15:55] <Smanly> Arne: Add server. use s.nerd.nu for the IP address.
#753 [15:56] <Arne> Smanly
#754 [15:56] <Smanly> ?
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#756 [15:57] <Refurius> ok cancel the connect Oo i cannot connect to it via static IP. getting a faled login: java.net.connectexeption: connection timed out: connect. Shall i post the full serverlog?
#757 [15:57] <Arne> Smanly: ok, there is a red 1.4.2 cross sign and I can�t connect to that server
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#759 [15:57] <BellanLEx> minecraft will let me log in but wont load up.
#760 [15:57] <Smanly> Ah, you are on 1.4.4.
#761 [15:57] <Smanly> I will PM you my server's IP.
#762 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> ??> Arne recentupdate
#763 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> ??> Arne smp/recentupdate
#764 [15:57] <VoxelHead> Arne: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#765 [15:57] <VoxelHead> Arne: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#766 [15:57] <Arne> yes minecraft 1.4.4
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#768 [15:58] <hole896> Is there a way to contact Mojang directly?
#769 [15:59] <Smanly> Email.
#770 [15:59] <hole896> What/where can I find it
#771 [15:59] <Selbram> Would you like to ask a question that we may help with?
#772 [15:59] <Lutzee> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#773 [15:59] <Lutzee> But yes ask here first
#774 [15:59] <BellanLEx> minecraft will let me log in but wont load up. i have deleted it and re-downloaded restarted my computer help!
#775 [15:59] <hole896> I need to change my minecraft username, I dont think you can help, can you?
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#777 [16:00] <Selbram> you can't change a username
#778 [16:00] <TITEX> I cant ?
#779 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> It is currently not possible to change a username
#780 [16:00] <Refurius> I even cant connect via localhost. Now I am totaly confused...
#781 [16:00] <hole896> If I email them they probably will
#782 [16:00] <Smanly> Arne: Try Backing up, and reinstalling MC.
#783 [16:00] * TITEX is now known as AppleVodka
#784 [16:00] <AppleVodka> VODKA TYM
#785 [16:00] <Smanly> You may need to update lwjgl (?)
#786 [16:00] <Lutzee> hole896: only if the username is offensive, otherwise unlikely
#787 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> hole896 - Please see: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329525-can-i-change-my-username-
#788 [16:01] <hole896> It is offensive, it is hole896
#789 [16:01] <Smanly> woa
#790 [16:01] <Smanly> so bad
#791 [16:01] <AppleVodka> lol
#792 [16:01] <Selbram> yeah no
#793 [16:01] <hole896> People call me asshole, butthole, vagina hole, etc
#794 [16:01] <Smanly> ...
#795 [16:01] <AppleVodka> lol
#796 [16:01] <hole896> So...they will prob change it
#797 [16:01] <AppleVodka> Maybe because you are one ?
#798 [16:02] <AppleVodka> :O
#799 [16:02] <Lutzee> It is not nessasarily offensive, just people are offensive against you.
#800 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> They most likely will not
#801 [16:02] <Smanly> hole896: Unlikely.
#802 [16:02] <hole896> Likely
#803 [16:02] <Lutzee> If people are being rude to you on a server, either ignore them, or find another server.
#804 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Go ahead and email them. The support form is at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#805 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Tell us how it goes. We'd like to know.
#806 [16:05] <hole896> kk
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#808 [16:06] <AppleVodka> lol
#809 [16:06] <AppleVodka> I thought he was being sarcastic :(
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#814 [16:16] <Refurius> Ok I setup a vanilla 1.4.4 server adn tried to connect to it. portfwd is ok, but i keep getting a connection exeption. connection timeout. i treid to connect via the static IP and via localhost both do not work =S
#815 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Did you happen to edit server.properties for any reason?
#816 [16:17] <Refurius> standart properties
#817 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> What?
#818 [16:18] <Smanly> Refurius: Client is on 1.4.4, right?
#819 [16:18] <Refurius> The properties generated by the server on first startup are beeing used. I tested the connection issiues with a vanilla minecraft server version 1.4.4
#820 [16:18] <Refurius> yes it is
#821 [16:19] <Refurius> smanly, client is on 1.4.4 as well.
#822 [16:19] <Smanly> Does your login attempt get logged by the server?
#823 [16:20] <Refurius> Yes the server does log that, showing the IP with wich i log in but saying "lost connection". Shall I pastebin the server log?
#824 [16:21] <Smanly> Um, idk. Could help.
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#826 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> that's.. quite a wildcardy hostmask someone added.
#827 [16:23] <Refurius> http://pastebin.com/Dnf9BKfz
#828 [16:23] <Smanly> 96.33.122.2 and stuff like 96_33_122_2
#829 [16:23] <Smanly> I guess
#830 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> Smanly: and also all sorts of unrelated IPv6 addresses
#831 [16:23] <Smanly> lolyes
#832 [16:24] <Smanly> Refurius: Restart the server. Looks like this was your first time starting it.
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#834 [16:25] <Refurius> smanly: did a restart still same error.
#835 [16:25] <Refurius> O_o is my java version corrupt or something
#836 [16:25] <Smanly> Hmm... Idk mang.
#837 [16:25] <Smanly> What is the exact error.
#838 [16:25] <Smanly> ?
#839 [16:25] <Redstone_> hey guys i cant update i try to update and it freezes and doesnt do anything this happened to me at every other update and befroe i have just spammed and eventually one worked
#840 [16:26] <Refurius> Failed to login: java.net.ConnectExeption: Connection timed out: connect
#841 [16:26] <Redstone_> Anyone know waht to do
#842 [16:27] <Redstone_> Anyone know how to fix me problem?
#843 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Redstone_ - Could you tell us how far it gets?
#844 [16:29] <Redstone_> Its very random sometimes t goes to 0% but the highest i got was 69% and 50% but normally ether like 6% or like 20 ish
#845 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> What antivirus do you run? AVG?
#846 [16:29] <Redstone_> omg it worked
#847 [16:29] <Redstone_> i do run avg
#848 [16:29] <Redstone_> i got it to work
#849 [16:30] <Redstone_> thanks bye
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#856 [16:40] <Rob112233> Hi, what can I do if I have windows 8 and want to use minecraft
#857 [16:41] <Rob112233> I can't install minecraft on windows 8
#858 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Downgrade to 7 or below
#859 [16:42] <Eddie> upgrade*
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#863 [16:45] <Rob112233> What a crock of crap. They're going to charge me 200 for Windows 7. Ridiculous
#864 [16:46] <Smanly> Minecraft doesnt run on win8?
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#866 [16:47] <Rob112233> Windows 8 is a piece of crap
#867 [16:47] <Smanly> lol
#868 [16:47] <DopeGhoti> Rob112233: you could always roll out Linux.
#869 [16:49] <DopeGhoti> bye, then
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#871 [16:51] <Lutzee> Probably had an amd graphics card or something anyway :p
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#876 [16:59] <TheyCallMeAndy> I can't hear any sounds in Minecraft. Sound settings are at max. Sound is on on my computer. Ideas?
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#879 [17:01] <Arne> thanks for help! .. I am out. good night!
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#881 [17:01] <TheyCallMeAndy> Anyone know why there might be no sounds in my Minecraft? No mods installed, in-game sound settings maxed out, computer sound settings on...
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#883 [17:03] <NinjaKirby> Not any other applications running simultaneously that could take exclusive control of the Sound card?
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#885 [17:03] <NinjaKirby> Pretty unlikely, but meh
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#889 [17:06] <NinjaKirby> Also, "Computer sound settings", I guess you mean the Windows Sound Mixer. It shouldn't start off at 0% volume, but derp.
#890 [17:06] <TheyCallMeAndy> And no, not a single other application besides Google Chrome
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#892 [17:07] <TheyCallMeAndy> Derp.
#893 [17:07] <TheyCallMeAndy> I'm an idiot.
#894 [17:07] <NinjaKirby> Ah, do you have an Asus Xonar card?
#895 [17:07] <TheyCallMeAndy> Well, goodbye world.
#896 [17:07] <NinjaKirby> Huh?
#897 [17:07] <TheyCallMeAndy> I found it.
#898 [17:07] <NinjaKirby> lolwut
#899 [17:07] <TheyCallMeAndy> Sound mixer settings.
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#901 [17:08] <TheyCallMeAndy> Kill me nao pl0x.
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#903 [17:08] <NinjaKirby> How did it plunge so low without user interaction, wat
#904 [17:08] <TheyCallMeAndy> I never changed it o.o
#905 [17:08] <NinjaKirby> Strange, at least it was an easy fix.
#906 [17:08] <TheyCallMeAndy> Yeah :3
#907 [17:08] <TheyCallMeAndy> Thanks
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#919 [17:19] <GoldFifty> Need help installing minecraft for mac
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#923 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> and with patience, it seems.
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#931 [17:40] <bowlinbud88> Hey I try to login into minecraft launcher, and it says i haven't downloaded it yet. What dod I do??
#932 [17:40] <bowlinbud88> Hey I try to login into minecraft launcher, and it says i haven't downloaded it yet. What dod I do??
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#934 [17:41] <Lutzee> What doe-
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#936 [17:47] <Deathspawn> where is Flash when you need him?
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#942 [17:50] <Morgancentral> Could someone team viewer to see what porting issue I'm having
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#945 [17:53] <bowlinbud88> Trying to launch into Minecraft Launcher, it says it isn't dwonloaded. What do I do?
#946 [17:53] <Morgancentral> Reinstall minecraft
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#948 [17:54] <bowlinbud88> did it many times but it keeps saying the same thing
#949 [17:54] <Morgancentral> Do u have Skype so I can see
#950 [17:54] <bowlinbud88> no
#951 [17:54] <Lutzee> bowlinbud88: What error does it say other than not downloaded?
#952 [17:55] <bowlinbud88> nothing just not dwonloaded
#953 [17:55] <Lutzee> There will be another message next to the login buttons..
#954 [17:55] <Lutzee> It replaces the username/password boxes
#955 [17:56] <bowlinbud88> login failed try again
#956 [17:56] <Lutzee> And such we find the errror... you should be using your email to log in if you bought the game recently
#957 [17:56] <bowlinbud88> i do
#958 [17:56] <Lutzee> Then your email/password is incorrect
#959 [17:57] <bowlinbud88> no made sure on that
#960 [17:58] <Lutzee> You only get login failed when the data you provide is incorrect.
#961 [17:58] <bowlinbud88> ill look again
#962 [18:00] <bowlinbud88> still says the same thing
#963 [18:02] <Lutzee> bowlinbud88: reset your password https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
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#967 [18:04] <sharpleroy_321> anyone know why when i connect to minecraft the screen goes black and I must restart computer?
#968 [18:06] <bowlinbud88> It isn't wokring still
#969 [18:07] <sharpleroy_321> I didnt know it was down?
#970 [18:08] <bowlinbud88> no I am having a problem logining into minecraft launch it says login failed try again
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#973 [18:08] <sharpleroy_321> Oh when I try the screen goes black and I must restart computer
#974 [18:09] <bowlinbud88> yea i just got the game and downloaded it and it is doing this to e
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#976 [18:09] <bowlinbud88> me
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#978 [18:09] <sharpleroy_321> Is there people in here that help?
#979 [18:10] <bowlinbud88> someone was trying to help me but it still doesn't work
#980 [18:11] <sharpleroy_321> o well least you found someone to help
#981 [18:11] <bowlinbud88> i want to find a phone number to call them to try and figure this out over the phone
#982 [18:12] <sharpleroy_321> good luck with that
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#989 [18:24] <Jack1342> whenever i log into minecraft I get a blackscreen.
#990 [18:24] <Jack1342> Does anyone know what to do?
#991 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> ?? specs
#992 [18:25] <Jack1342> I have a clean .jar file (no mods).
#993 [18:25] <VoxelHead> specs: Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#994 [18:25] <Jack1342> I have a macbookpro 2012
#995 [18:25] <Jack1342> Default edition
#996 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> have you checked System Update for any, er, updates?
#997 [18:26] <Jack1342> How?
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#1002 [18:32] <blupilot1> hello?
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#1004 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> salutations.
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#1006 [18:33] <blupilot1> dope can you help me with my account? on minecraft?
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#1010 [18:36] <blupilot1> my minecraft account isnt premium yet and i bought it yesterday :/
#1011 [18:36] <Suicidal_Speedy> Question guys. Is there anyway for me to go from 1.4.4 to 1.4.2 so I can play on this server?
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#1013 [18:37] <blupilot1> mcnastalgiacraft google it
#1014 [18:37] <DiskDaemon> ?? mc.net/paid
#1015 [18:37] <VoxelHead> mc.net/paid: There is a very simple way to see whether Mojang believes your account is paid for or not. Log in at https://account.mojang.com/me and look for a 'My Games' heading. If you don't see Minecraft listed there, nor in My Gift Codes, then Mojang has not received your monies.
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#1017 [18:37] <blupilot1> ok
#1018 [18:39] <DiskDaemon> Suicidal_Speedy: What does Mojang tell you from your account page?
#1019 [18:39] <blupilot1> hmm it says i didnt uy it
#1020 [18:39] <blupilot1> buy
#1021 [18:39] <Suicidal_Speedy> it says that i updated to 1.4.4
#1022 [18:39] <Suicidal_Speedy> but it wont let me play on servers with 1.4.2
#1023 [18:39] <Suicidal_Speedy> :(
#1024 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> blupilot1: Okay, what were you using to attempt to make the purchase?
#1025 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> You can get the 1.4.2 version from http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_2/minecraft.jar
#1026 [18:40] <blupilot1> you asking if i just like bought it or got gift code?
#1027 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> blupilot1: Such details would be useful to find out
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#1029 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> ??> Suicidal_Speedy smp/recentupdate
#1030 [18:41] <VoxelHead> Suicidal_Speedy: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#1031 [18:41] <VoxelHead> Suicidal_Speedy: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#1032 [18:41] <blupilot1> well i bought it and gave me a receipt
#1033 [18:41] <DiskDaemon> blupilot1: I get receipts from the store for a declined purchase. A receipt means verylittle
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#1035 [18:41] <blupilot1> i bought it from the website
#1036 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> blupilot1: What were you using to attempt to make the purchase?
#1037 [18:42] <blupilot1> paypal
#1038 [18:42] <Suicidal_Speedy> @ VoxwlHead: Im just here trying to figure out if there is a way for me to go back to 1.4.2, not have you guys try to do some shiz
#1039 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> blupilot1: Does your paypal account show any record of your purchase?
#1040 [18:43] <blupilot1> no
#1041 [18:43] <DiskDaemon> blupilot1: Then the transaction wasn’t allowed for some reason
#1042 [18:43] <blupilot1> wait a moment i tink it just FINALLY worked
#1043 [18:43] <blupilot1> that was long...
#1044 [18:43] <blupilot1> i ought it yesterday at midnight and it finally went through
#1045 [18:43] <DiskDaemon> It can take a little bit of time - see http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1046 [18:44] <blupilot1> bought*
#1047 [18:45] <blupilot1> well thank you DiskDaemon :)
#1048 [18:46] <DiskDaemon> you’re welcome
#1049 [18:46] <blupilot1> now i can play legit and not just the demo
#1050 [18:46] <blupilot1> bye!
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#1054 [18:50] <Suicidal_Speedy> So take it there isnt a way for me to go back to 1.4.2?
#1055 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> Suicidal_Speedy: Of course there is - you just haven’t been paying any attention
#1056 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> [from before] You can get the 1.4.2 version from http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_2/minecraft.jar
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#1060 [18:53] <Minecraft1> hey, i've got a question.
#1061 [18:53] <Suicidal_Speedy> keeps telling me a Java exception has occured
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#1063 [18:53] <Guest14389> has anyone ever had prblems with NVIDIA high preformance proccessor
#1064 [18:53] <Minecraft1> is essentialsprotection outdated? because my locking doesn't work on the new minecraft update.
#1065 [18:53] <DiskDaemon> Suicidal_Speedy: Then you’re doing it wrong. You don’t run that file - you replace your existing 1.4.4 version of the .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar file with that 1.4.2 version of minecraft.jar
#1066 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> Minecraft1 smp/recentupdate
#1067 [18:54] <VoxelHead> Minecraft1: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#1068 [18:54] <VoxelHead> Minecraft1: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
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#1070 [18:55] <DiskDaemon> DopeGhoti: This is I presume why he was asking about how to downgrade, so that he may match up with what his chosen server currently has
#1071 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> I didn't see any such question from Minecraft1.
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#1075 [18:57] <viper669669> i have a account on minecraft but i can not creat a account on mojang to redeam my card to play mine craft
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#1077 [18:57] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, my attention was on Suicidal_Speedy
#1078 [18:57] <mcaustin1> I have a quick question
#1079 [18:58] <viper669669> ok
#1080 [18:58] <DiskDaemon> viper669669: Why can you not create an account on mojang?
#1081 [18:58] <viper669669> it wont let me im guessing due to the site..
#1082 [18:58] <mcaustin1> How soon do I get premuim?
#1083 [18:58] <DiskDaemon> ??> Suicidal_Speedy dont/pm
#1084 [18:58] <VoxelHead> Suicidal_Speedy: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1085 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> It can take a little bit of time - see http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1086 [18:59] <Suicidal_Speedy> im really illerterate with computers here, but i cant seem to figure out where the other file is to replace the 1.4.2 file with it
#1087 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> ??> Suicidal_Speedy win/.minecraft
#1088 [18:59] <VoxelHead> Suicidal_Speedy: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1089 [19:00] <viper669669> can i plz talk to one person at a time ..
#1090 [19:00] <Suicidal_Speedy> thank you
#1091 [19:00] <Suicidal_Speedy> glad you guys can help an idiot like me
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#1093 [19:00] <DiskDaemon> viper669669: Private assistance isn’t provided here, this is a public help channel
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#1095 [19:01] <DiskDaemon> ??> viper669669 dont/pm
#1096 [19:01] <VoxelHead> viper669669: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1097 [19:01] <Suicidal_Speedy> It works, thanks guys
#1098 [19:01] <drfizzman123> I need some help. I keep getting a black screen when ever I tried to log in. So I deleted minecraft/mods and reinstalled it without the mods. It still shows a black screen
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#1100 [19:01] <viper669669> ok now how can i get a account on mojang ?
#1101 [19:02] <drfizzman123> Is there a solution for this?
#1102 [19:02] <DiskDaemon> Ooh - this ain’t good. http://help.mojang.com/ “Sorry, we’re currently offline.”
#1103 [19:02] <drfizzman123> Can anyone help me?
#1104 [19:02] <DiskDaemon> viper669669: We may have to wait for a while until Mojang’s servers come back online
#1105 [19:03] <DiskDaemon> ??> drfizzman123 win/reinst
#1106 [19:03] <VoxelHead> drfizzman123: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1107 [19:03] <viper669669> i have been trying for 4 days
#1108 [19:03] <VoxelHead> drfizzman123: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1109 [19:03] <viper669669> can i plz get some help
#1110 [19:03] <drfizzman123> So don't deleted the bin?
#1111 [19:04] <DiskDaemon> viper669669: The people who help mhere do not work for Mojang. We’re volunteers who love the game and want to help others to enjoy it too. As a result, we only have access to what you have access to. We can help, but only when Mojang’s servers are up and working
#1112 [19:04] <DiskDaemon> drfizzman123: Where did you read that?
#1113 [19:04] <DiskDaemon> drfizzman123: Please read VoxelHead’s instructions again, and then follow them
#1114 [19:04] <viper669669> just try to make a account on mojang u will see what i mean
#1115 [19:04] <drfizzman123> I opened appdata and clicked .minecraft
#1116 [19:05] <drfizzman123> Then came a bin/ect..
#1117 [19:05] <DiskDaemon> drfizzman123: Good, and what does VoxelHead say after “open the .minecraft directory” ?
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#1120 [19:06] <drfizzman123> Delete everything expept the save directory
#1121 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> well done!
#1122 [19:06] <drfizzman123> Ok then..
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#1124 [19:06] <viper669669> now me?
#1125 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> viper669669: What trouble do you have when trying to create an account?
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#1127 [19:07] <viper669669> ok i go to account .majang.com and i fill in all the feilds and its not taking any password i put in there for not alowing me to creat a account
#1128 [19:08] <viper669669> just showing in red saying not mached
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#1130 [19:08] <viper669669> there for i can make a acount
#1131 [19:08] <viper669669> so if i cant make a acount on mojang i can merg and play ..
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#1133 [19:09] <viper669669> i just got the mincraft card from walmart for 26.95 and not about to redeam
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#1135 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> viper669669: I have just now created a new mojang.com accoutn for myself - I’m at a loss as to why you may be having trouble. If it says your passwords don’t match, then they may not actually match
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#1138 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> viper669669: If you already have a minecraft.net account you can migrate that account over to mojang.com instead
#1139 [19:11] <viper669669> would u be able to talk to me in prive to creat one for me and ill cange it once u make it that would get this done
#1140 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> viper669669: no
#1141 [19:12] <viper669669> ok well i cant merg the account due to i have not redemed the card i got so its saying i dont have minecraft
#1142 [19:12] <DiskDaemon> viper669669: Do you don’t want to migrate your minecrat.net account over to mojang.com ?
#1143 [19:12] <Frostic> yay oversized packets oh how fun this is -.- whoever is ddosing me needs to grow up...
#1144 [19:12] <viper669669> t merg
#1145 [19:13] <viper669669> i just need help making a account on mojang
#1146 [19:14] <viper669669> once i get that ill be all set
#1147 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> viper669669: I’ve just tested creating a new account, and everything worked fine
#1148 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> epicmcaustin1: No, I do not skype
#1149 [19:14] <viper669669> well this is my 4 day trying and i can t....
#1150 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> ??> epicmcaustin1 dont/pm
#1151 [19:14] <VoxelHead> epicmcaustin1: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1152 [19:15] <DiskDaemon> Now sorry guys, but I have to head off to perform other volunteer work, this time at the local community centre.
#1153 [19:15] <epicmcaustin1> Who has skype
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#1155 [19:15] <viper669669> whos on to help ???
#1156 [19:16] <Frostic> viper669669 : https://minecraft.net/store click register
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#1158 [19:16] <DiskDaemon> viper669669:That’s up for anyone in here who feels like volunteering to help, as it always has been
#1159 [19:16] <Qetify> Is this minecraft?
#1160 [19:16] <Qetify> sweet
#1161 [19:16] <xStuuy> Hi, I am trying to play the demo on minecraft, however whenever I press Log In the window just goes black and I'm unable to go any further... can someone help?
#1162 [19:16] <Qetify> When i get on my account my username is my email
#1163 [19:16] <Qetify> could anyone help im about to buy minecraft
#1164 [19:16] <Frostic> yes
#1165 [19:17] <Qetify> please?
#1166 [19:17] <Frostic> Qetify: https://minecraft.net/store click register
#1167 [19:17] <viper669669> ok would anyone in here make a mojang accout for me and mmessage me in a privit pm
#1168 [19:17] <Qetify> ok
#1169 [19:17] <Qetify> it takes me to my mojang account
#1170 [19:17] <Qetify> do i log out of that
#1171 [19:18] <Qetify> ?
#1172 [19:18] <Frostic> you register
#1173 [19:18] <Qetify> ive made an account on mojang accounts and it makes my username my email
#1174 [19:18] <Qetify> ive registered
#1175 [19:18] <Qetify> now what
#1176 [19:18] <Frostic> did you buy minecraft?
#1177 [19:18] <Qetify> not yet
#1178 [19:19] <Frostic> thats the next step
#1179 [19:19] <Qetify> im about to but i dont want my email my username
#1180 [19:19] <Qetify> and then i can change my user?
#1181 [19:19] <Frostic> login the site then click buy minecraft
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#1183 [19:19] <Frostic> yes
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#1185 [19:19] <Qetify> ok
#1186 [19:19] <Qetify> bought now what
#1187 [19:20] <Frostic> you paid now?
#1188 [19:20] <Qetify> yes
#1189 [19:20] <Qetify> now how do i change my username
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#1191 [19:20] <Frostic> it asks you when you are filling out your information
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#1193 [19:21] <Qetify> ok thanks
#1194 [19:21] <Brad> can someone tell me how to take out the lates update so i can play on my server
#1195 [19:21] <Brad> i dont want to update it yet
#1196 [19:21] <Qetify> thank you!!!!!11
#1197 [19:21] <Qetify> bad
#1198 [19:22] <Qetify> brad
#1199 [19:22] <Brad> yeah
#1200 [19:22] <Qetify> hold on
#1201 [19:22] <Frostic> just follow the steps to create the account, buy the game. you will get an email saying congrats
#1202 [19:22] <Frostic> brad
#1203 [19:22] <Brad> yeah
#1204 [19:22] <Frostic> what version you need to be on?
#1205 [19:23] <Brad> 1.4.2
#1206 [19:23] <Brad> not 1.4.3
#1207 [19:23] <Brad> which is what it is now
#1208 [19:23] <Brad> 1.4.4**
#1209 [19:23] <Frostic> its 1.4.4
#1210 [19:23] <Brad> yeah sosy i need 1.4.2
#1211 [19:23] <Frostic> ok wait ill see if there is a link to the jar you need
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#1215 [19:26] <Frostic> brad: do you know where to locate .minecraft folder?
#1216 [19:26] <Brad> is it the same place you add textire packs ect
#1217 [19:26] <Frostic> yes
#1218 [19:26] <Brad> ok
#1219 [19:26] <Frostic> inside .minecraft folder there should be a folder named bin
#1220 [19:27] <Brad> yep
#1221 [19:27] <Frostic> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_2/minecraft.jar put this file in there and replace the one in that folder
#1222 [19:27] <Brad> what do i replace it with
#1223 [19:27] <Frostic> the link i just gave you
#1224 [19:28] <Brad> yeah but what do i change it the folder
#1225 [19:28] <Brad> what is the java file called
#1226 [19:28] <Frostic> just put it in the folder and
#1227 [19:29] <Frostic> close minecraft befor you put it in the folder
#1228 [19:29] <Brad> ok it thing i did it one sec ill check
#1229 [19:29] <Frostic> then restart minecraft and you are now 1.4.2
#1230 [19:29] <Frostic> :)
#1231 [19:30] <Brad> awesome thanks
#1232 [19:30] <Frostic> np :)
#1233 [19:31] <Brad> one more thing
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#1235 [19:31] <Brad> i want to spawn in this seed spot how do i make a world for my server which is in this spot
#1236 [19:31] <Brad> -753548930
#1237 [19:31] <Brad> that seed
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#1239 [19:32] <Brad> any idea
#1240 [19:32] <epicmcaustin1> viper669669-PM
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#1243 [19:34] <Frostic> go into minecraft and play singleplayer set it to survival and use that seed to generate it with the name world. then enter the game save it, then close minecraft. after it is closed go into .minecraft open the folder named saves copy that folder named world into your servers folder to copy over top of the folder named world if there is one already there
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#1245 [19:35] <Frostic> copy the folder named world*
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#1247 [19:36] <Frostic> then start your server and connect you should be in your map :)
#1248 [19:36] <mmam> why can I not download minecraft? I purchased it and it shows my account as premium but when I try to log-in to download the game to my computer, it says "log-in failed"?
#1249 [19:37] <Frostic> use your email to login
#1250 [19:37] <Frostic> or your password is wrong
#1251 [19:38] <Frostic> mmam read my last 2 messages thay are to you
#1252 [19:40] <mmam> I did use my email to log in and I already changed my password once and it is still doing it.
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#1255 [19:42] <mmam> Anyone else have any suggestions?
#1256 [19:42] <Frostic> mmam did you use this site to rest
#1257 [19:42] <Frostic> https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#1258 [19:42] <mmam> Yes.
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#1260 [19:44] <Frostic> contact customer support with this form http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#1262 [19:44] <mmam> I can log-in to my account and see all of my information. It only happens when I put my info in to download the game. This has been going on for over a week now. I have had membership but it never has let me download the game, just play online.
#1263 [19:44] <Frostic> it may take them a few days though
#1264 [19:45] <mmam> Ok. I will give that a try. Thanks!
#1265 [19:45] <Frostic> ok then i dont know your problem anyone else can help?
#1266 [19:46] <Frostic> bbl i need to go do some things
#1267 [19:46] <Frostic> hope you get it fixed mmam :)
#1268 [19:47] <Frostic> sorry i was unable to help you.
#1269 [19:49] <mmam> That is ok. Thanks for trying!
#1270 [19:49] <mmam> Have a great night
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#1272 [20:00] <epicmcaustin1> Hello?
#1273 [20:00] <epicmcaustin1> Hello?
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#1276 [20:07] <epicmcaustin1> I am still waiting for my premuim membership it's been over 1 hour
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#1294 [21:04] <|Anthony|> anyone think of a redirect service like noip that will be free and allow me to specify the port to forward traffic to?
#1295 [21:04] <|Anthony|> basically, i want to host 2 servers. one on the standard port, and a second for staff on a different port
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#1311 [21:29] <meherenow> Is it possible to have two player accounts on the same game? That is purchase one game for one computer and have two people play separate games? Many games have the ability for 2 or 4 or 6 different accounts or player games.
#1312 [21:30] <Smanly> You mean, like a multi player game?
#1313 [21:30] <meherenow> I guess I am confused by the term "Account" when I am thinking the term GAME
#1314 [21:30] <Smanly> Ok, now you've confused me.
#1315 [21:31] <meherenow> Not multiplay in the sense of playing at the same time. But one play plays as Jack and the other player plays as Bob and their game files are separate. Two separate games with one application.
#1316 [21:31] <Smanly> Um... I see.
#1317 [21:32] <meherenow> Sorry, "Not Multi Player in the sense..."
#1318 [21:32] <Smanly> That would be 2 accounts.
#1319 [21:32] <Smanly> But Gamefiles wouldnt be separate.
#1320 [21:32] <meherenow> does that mean purchasing two separate games
#1321 [21:32] <Smanly> I am assuming you have children and want them to play on the same PC.
#1322 [21:33] <Smanly> Right?
#1323 [21:33] <meherenow> Yes, thank you exactly. And the boy doesn't want the girl messing up his setting, and corrupting his files.
#1324 [21:33] <Smanly> There really isnt anything like that built into the game. :/
#1325 [21:33] <Andrio> Do you use Windows?
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#1327 [21:34] <meherenow> Yes!
#1328 [21:34] <Smanly> Ah, that would work. Awesome idea.
#1329 [21:34] <Andrio> Then you could try getting them to play on different user accounts.
#1330 [21:34] <meherenow> tell me more...
#1331 [21:35] <Andrio> do you know how to set up user accounts on Windows?
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#1333 [21:35] <meherenow> yes.
#1334 [21:36] <meherenow> I have three accounts now. Mine, the kids and a guest account.
#1335 [21:36] <Andrio> well, Minecraft's local files (including the saves) get saved to an Application Data folder which is specific to that user account.
#1336 [21:36] <meherenow> OK...???
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#1338 [21:37] <Andrio> so, if you run the game on a different user account, you'll see different worlds and settings saved there.
#1339 [21:38] <Andrio> You'd need to have separate accounts for each of your children, though.
#1340 [21:38] <meherenow> so, just log into the extra account and log onto the game and it will save that game, its' files and saves in that Windows Account? Is that right
#1341 [21:38] <Andrio> yes.
#1342 [21:39] <meherenow> Thank you I will give that a go. May I ask, is this a guess, or are you fairly certain that this is the solution?
#1343 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> It is a valid solution.
#1344 [21:39] <AllHailTheGeek> meherenow, it will for sure solve your issue.
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#1347 [21:40] <meherenow> Thank you so much, I think you have solved a big BIG family issue. I am indebted to you . Happy "Minecrafting".
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#1349 [21:40] <catscat24> Hello
#1350 [21:40] <meherenow> I will give it a try now.
#1351 [21:40] <catscat24> Sorry?
#1352 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Hello
#1353 [21:41] <catscat24> Oh multiple people
#1354 [21:41] <catscat24> ok
#1355 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1356 [21:41] <catscat24> So can anyone help me with my minecraft issue?
#1357 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Concerning what exactly?
#1358 [21:42] <catscat24> My 1.4.4 update has been crashing nomatter what I do.
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#1360 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Crashing how? Got an error report?
#1361 [21:42] <catscat24> Yes
#1362 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com it please. Give us the url so that we may read it
#1363 [21:43] <catscat24> Ok
#1364 [21:43] <catscat24> Hold on
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#1367 [21:43] <meherenow> One more question about the two account issue. Would we then be logging into Minecraft with the identical usernames and passwords?
#1368 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1369 [21:43] <meherenow> The game account is the same, but the files will be kept separate. right?
#1370 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> That is correct
#1371 [21:44] <catscat24> Here is the url
#1372 [21:44] <catscat24> http://pastebin.com/WmdanEf3
#1373 [21:44] <meherenow> GreyVuipine are you responding to my questions?
#1374 [21:47] <catscat24> meherenow he
#1375 [21:47] <catscat24> is on my pastebin right now
#1376 [21:47] <catscat24> looking at an error report
#1377 [21:48] <meherenow> can you respond to my last question? "One more question about the two account issue. Would we then be logging into Minecraft with the identical usernames and passwords?"
#1378 [21:48] <catscat24> Hmm
#1379 [21:48] <meherenow> I'm not sure GreyValpine was talking to me.
#1380 [21:48] <Andrio> meherenow, I think he was.
#1381 [21:49] <catscat24> Hold on, You cant have identical usernames and passwords meherenow
#1382 [21:49] <catscat24> at least not usernames
#1383 [21:49] <Andrio> Read: 'logging into Minecraft with the same account'.
#1384 [21:49] <meherenow> So each Windows account would have a different username.
#1385 [21:50] <catscat24> Oooooh I thought you meant minecraft account
#1386 [21:50] <meherenow> Where do I find that article? In the HELP section?
#1387 [21:50] <catscat24> I am not sure
#1388 [21:51] <catscat24> Honestly meherenow I am a mac user so I don't know much about windows but I can tell you this
#1389 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> meherenow - Let's reiterate your question. You want to use a single minecraft account for multiple people, yes?
#1390 [21:51] <catscat24> Nevermind
#1391 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> meherenow - You want to keep those minecraft saves seperated for each person. To do this, you want to make a different windows account for each person
#1392 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Each person will sign into a different windows account, but use the same minecraft account to log in. This will seperate your single player world saves
#1393 [21:52] <catscat24> Ahh so thats the problem
#1394 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Each minecraft save will be saved under a different windows account.
#1395 [21:52] <meherenow> Right, but we will be signing into the same Game for different Windows accounts, so don't we use the same login info? Username and Password?
#1396 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> You'll use different login info for your windows account. You'll use the same minecraft login info, provided you only have one minecraft account
#1397 [21:53] <meherenow> Sorry " into the same Game FROM differnt windows accounts..."
#1398 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> catscat24 - As for your problem, have you tried a force update through the game's launcher?
#1399 [21:54] <catscat24> Yes
#1400 [21:54] <catscat24> I have also deleted my full minecraft folder
#1401 [21:54] <catscat24> and did a force update
#1402 [21:54] <meherenow> I think I have it . Each kid logs into their own account and then log into Minecraft with the same Username and password. The files will be different.
#1403 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> catscat24 - Does this error occur when loading a single player world or connecting to a multiplayer world?
#1404 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> meherenow - Exactly
#1405 [21:54] <catscat24> Connecting to multiplayer
#1406 [21:54] <catscat24> It crashes
#1407 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> catscat24 - I don't suppose you connect to the internet using a proxy of any kind?
#1408 [21:55] <catscat24> Let me check
#1409 [21:55] <meherenow> Thank again, I think I have it now. Really very simple once you understand.
#1410 [21:55] <meherenow> Thanks.
#1411 [21:55] <catscat24> It seems I am connected to WiFi and Ethernet at the same time
#1412 [21:55] <catscat24> But no proxy
#1413 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1414 [21:57] <AllHailTheGeek> catscat24, describe crashes?
#1415 [21:57] <catscat24> FYI I am on a mac
#1416 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> I see that..
#1417 [21:57] <catscat24> Go to this url allhailthegeek
#1418 [21:57] <catscat24> http://pastebin.com/WmdanEf3
#1419 [21:57] <catscat24> Anyway, GreyVulpine Should i disconnect from wireless?
#1420 [21:58] <catscat24> Or vice versa with ethernet
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#1422 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> I don't think it's an issue with either of those.
#1423 [21:58] <catscat24> ok
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#1425 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> It looks like an issue with java's connectivity and authentication.
#1426 [21:59] <catscat24> Ah
#1427 [21:59] <catscat24> Maybe its because of outdated java/
#1428 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> I suppose I would recommend looking into seeing if there's an updated version of java available first.
#1429 [22:00] <catscat24> There is
#1430 [22:00] <catscat24> I am not sure it is availible to me, though
#1431 [22:00] <catscat24> I do have an outdated (somewhat) mac
#1432 [22:01] <catscat24> hardware and software wise
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#1434 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure the server you're connecting to has been updated to 1.4.4?
#1435 [22:01] <catscat24> yes
#1436 [22:02] <catscat24> If you want to know the ip is 4.mc-war.com
#1437 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> !check 4.mc-war.com
#1438 [22:03] <catscat24> I just did
#1439 [22:03] <catscat24> It still crashes with the same error report
#1440 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to connect to any other servers with the same error?
#1441 [22:04] <catscat24> Yes I tried mineZ
#1442 [22:04] <catscat24> If you are unfamiliar the ip is us10-public.minez.net
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#1444 [22:06] <catscat24> I really am in a rush right now, is there any way we can come to a conclusion soon?
#1445 [22:06] <catscat24> You know what...
#1446 [22:06] <catscat24> Why don't I just try a full computer reboot?
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#1448 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, I don't really have much for you here. Java looks to be at fault.
#1449 [22:07] <catscat24> Ok
#1450 [22:08] <catscat24> I will try a full reboot of my system, and if it does not work I will try to update my java
#1451 [22:08] <catscat24> Thank you for your help!
#1452 [22:08] * GreyVulpine nods
#1452 [22:08] <catscat24> Bye
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#1461 [22:51] <kiugetski> 0/
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#1467 [23:03] <LeadPoisonD> Can anyone tell me why whenever i try to set up an acct., it keeps on telling me no matter what that mt passwords dont match? i have a prepaid card and i cannot make an acct.
#1468 [23:04] <LeadPoisonD> anyone?
#1469 [23:04] <kiugetski> case sencitive ?
#1470 [23:04] <kiugetski> just try it
#1471 [23:04] <LeadPoisonD> yes ive tried many many times
#1472 [23:05] <kiugetski> !check qcmc.zapto.org
#1473 [23:05] <kiugetski> let me check
#1474 [23:06] <LeadPoisonD> ive tried bolth my kids accts and tried to even make a new one
#1475 [23:08] <LeadPoisonD> ive tried bolth my kids accts and tried to even make a new one
#1476 [23:08] <kiugetski> check private convo
#1477 [23:08] <LeadPoisonD> oh
#1478 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> LeadPoisonD: I created a new account on mojang.com just a few hours ago when testing things for someone - the creation of a new account seems to occur with no trouble.
#1479 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> If the web site says that the passwords must match, then they must match before you can continue
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#1482 [23:13] <DiskDaemon> LeadPoisonD: What details can you provide about the web browser that you are using?
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#1486 [23:16] <Darko> How do I download minecraft 1.4.2?
#1487 [23:17] <Dillon> i keep getting the connection refused error when i try to connect to my own server whats the deal
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#1489 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> You can get the 1.4.2 version from http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_2/minecraft.jar
#1490 [23:18] <Darko> thank you
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#1493 [23:20] <Darko> it's saying now that a java exception has occurred.
#1494 [23:20] <Darko> whenever I click on the link
#1495 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> Darko: You aren’t supposed to run that file
#1496 [23:20] <Darko> Oh
#1497 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> Darko: You rplace your existing 1.4.4 version of .minecraft/bn/minecraft.jar with that other minecraft.jar file
#1498 [23:21] <Darko> alright I think I understand now
#1499 [23:21] <Darko> where is my 1.4.4 located?
#1500 [23:22] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/.minecraft
#1501 [23:22] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1502 [23:25] <Darko> Thank you so much for the help, another thing it didn't ask me to update this time what if I want to download the new version?
#1503 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> You can force an update from the options (before you login)
#1504 [23:25] <Darko> okay thanks see ya
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#1508 [23:27] <kiugetski> fixed his problem for register system :)
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#1512 [23:47] <kiugetski> hey i have a question
#1513 [23:47] <kiugetski> can we buy minecraft with a gift card ?
#1514 [23:48] <kiugetski> ok its found
#1515 [23:49] <DopeGhoti> ?? prepaid
#1516 [23:49] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
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#1518 [23:55] <kiugetski> ok thx
#1519 [23:56] <DopeGhoti> cheers
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