#MinecraftHelp > 2012-11-20
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#14 [01:03] <lincolnseppe> how do you pull up the control box window in minecraft?
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#17 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Command_Block
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#19 [01:04] <klop> hello everyone, i was wondering if its possible to remove all players /sethome from a location
#20 [01:04] <klop> as an op.
#21 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Not in vanilla.
#22 [01:05] <klop> oh ok GreyVulpine
#23 [01:05] <klop> can we discuss bukkit here? if so is there a mod u know of GreyVulpine that allows for it
#24 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> You're better off asking in #bukkit
#25 [01:06] <klop> k thanks
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#30 [01:12] <lincolnseppe> thanks for the link, but that's not what i meant. i'm kind of new at minecraft and i was wondering if there was a way to switch from creative to survival mode.
#31 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#32 [01:14] <lincolnseppe> how do you do it?
#33 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> If you have cheats enabled in your single player world, you can press T to bring up the chat menu, then /gamemode 0/1 to switch from survival/creative
#34 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> If you're an op in your server, you can do the same thing
#35 [01:15] <lincolnseppe> thanks
#36 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> If you do not have cheats enabled, you'll need to mod minecraft with something like Single Player commands: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/94310-142-single-player-commands-v42-official-download-spc/
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#46 [01:32] <lincolnseppe> hi i'm kind of new at minecraft and I was wondering if there was a way to switch from creative to survival mode
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#50 [01:40] <mau5ie> Not in Singleplayer.
#51 [01:40] <lincolnseppe> hello?
#52 [01:41] <mau5ie> Wait, yes, you can. I think.
#53 [01:41] <mau5ie> Isn't there some Cheats Enabled option now?
#54 [01:41] <lincolnseppe> do you know how?
#55 [01:41] <stellarstead> you set it before you make the world
#56 [01:41] <mau5ie> ^
#57 [01:41] <lincolnseppe> yeah
#58 [01:42] <stellarstead> to switch between creative and survival the command is /gamemode
#59 [01:42] <stellarstead> gamemode 1 is creative, 0 is survival, and 2 is adventure
#60 [01:42] <stellarstead> or something
#61 [01:44] <lincolnseppe> yes but how do you open the command bar thigy?
#62 [01:44] <lincolnseppe> thingy
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#64 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> Press T
#65 [01:45] <lincolnseppe> oh thanks
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#67 [01:47] <stellarstead> if you're doing nothing but cheats you can also just hit slash and it will open the bar with a slash
#68 [01:47] <stellarstead> speaking of which I should fix my macros
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#77 [01:52] <lincolnseppe> I just tried that and it didn't work. the press t thing.
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#79 [01:56] <lincolnseppe> hello?
#80 [01:56] <stellarstead> it doesn't open up the chat for you?
#81 [01:56] <lincolnseppe> no
#82 [01:56] <stellarstead> wuuuut
#83 [01:56] <stellarstead> alright hold on
#84 [01:57] <stellarstead> are your controls different?
#85 [01:57] <stellarstead> pause, then go options>controls
#86 [01:57] <stellarstead> should be T set to "Chat"
#87 [01:58] <lincolnseppe> well my little sister was messing with them, but "chat" is t
#88 [01:59] <stellarstead> are you on the most recent version of the game?
#89 [01:59] <stellarstead> 1.4.4
#90 [02:00] <lincolnseppe> if you mean the one with bats and stuff, yes
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#93 [02:10] <lincolnseppe> hello?
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#97 [02:19] <lincolnseppe> hello?
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#99 [02:26] <DemonKnight> most rescent is 1.4.5
#100 [02:26] <DemonKnight> lol
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#106 [02:31] <lincolnseppe> i'm in version 1.4.4
#107 [02:32] <Finamenon> this torchlight flickering bug is so strange
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#116 [02:45] <SkoobyDoo> is there any reasonable circumstance in which a server would insist someone be whitelisted, even if the server was not set to require whitelisting AND the user in question was in whitelist.txt?
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#119 [03:06] <TheNoodle> SkoobyDoo, are you asking this as a server administrator or as a player?
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#121 [03:06] <SkoobyDoo> TheNoodle, Both. I've got a server I run on my computer for me and a small group of friends
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#123 [03:08] <gorman> I forgot the password to a minecraft account, but there doesn't seem to be any way to recover it. Any ideas?
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#125 [03:08] <jimmybjimmy> another noob question here
#126 [03:09] <TheNoodle> SkoobyDoo, are you asking because you've run into a problem or...?
#127 [03:09] <jimmybjimmy> yes
#128 [03:09] <SkoobyDoo> yes, yes I have.
#129 [03:09] <TheNoodle> gorman, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#130 [03:09] <jimmybjimmy> from what ive seen, in order to make a pickaxe yu need plain wood correct?
#131 [03:09] <gorman> TheNoodle: cheers!
#132 [03:10] <jimmybjimmy> or sticks i mean
#133 [03:10] <jimmybjimmy> in order to make sticks do you need plain "wood"?
#134 [03:10] <TheNoodle> no, any wood will do.
#135 [03:10] <SkoobyDoo> TheNoodle, the properties file has white-list=false in it, the white-list.txt has skoobydoo in it, and I've even tried deleting both and letting the server regenerate them both
#136 [03:10] <jimmybjimmy> when i try to put two planks on my crafting table
#137 [03:10] <TheNoodle> SkoobyDoo, running a server wrapper or craftbukkit etc?
#138 [03:10] <jimmybjimmy> it gives me the flat wood peice
#139 [03:11] <gorman> put them vertically jimmy
#140 [03:11] <jimmybjimmy> that makes a difference?
#141 [03:11] <gorman> yup
#142 [03:11] <jimmybjimmy> christ... im such a noob
#143 [03:11] <jimmybjimmy> thanks
#144 [03:11] <gorman> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
#145 [03:11] <gorman> use this :P
#146 [03:11] <TheNoodle> lolled
#147 [03:11] <SkoobyDoo> TheNoodle, using an FTB server. I'm trying to roll back after some derp they had earlier today. Currently I deleted *EVERYTHING* and unzipped the exact same (previously working) old version and unzipped it into an empty folder and ran it
#148 [03:11] <jimmybjimmy> perfect thank you
#149 [03:12] <gorman> near the bottom there are lists of all blocks and items craftable and the exact format to craft them
#150 [03:12] <TheNoodle> Sorry SkoobyDoo, can't think of anything else that would be doing it :|
#151 [03:13] <SkoobyDoo> TheNoodle me neither =[. I tried running my vanilla and tekkit servers and connecting, no issues there. Voodoo doesn't like me
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#153 [03:14] <SkoobyDoo> perhaps I'll just wait till loki/the gremlins/gnomes get bored of tormenting me.
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#156 [03:20] <gorman> geez they want my name, date of birth, and 3 secret questions? so ridiculous </grumble>
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#160 [03:41] <SkoobyDoo> @TheNoodle is it at all possible that that error is being generated client side?
#161 [03:42] <TheNoodle> Depends, what message do you get when you're denied access to the server? Because that's defined serverside
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#164 [03:55] <SkoobyDoo> I think i may have actually fixed it
#165 [03:58] <SkoobyDoo> well, this is certainly embarassing.
#166 [03:58] <TheNoodle> lol
#167 [03:58] <SkoobyDoo> Turns out the reason why the server was telling me i wasnt whitelisted is because i wasn't whitelisted. But my server was definitely not trying to whitelist me either.
#168 [03:58] <SkoobyDoo> the rollback of ftb i downloaded had one server programmed into the list and I was derp enough to not even notice that the ip wasnt set to 127.0.0.1
#169 [03:59] <TheNoodle> ha
#170 [03:59] <SkoobyDoo> so I was connecting to some random-ish person's server, which had whitelist enabled
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#178 [04:44] <Mousiee> Ok, I had a Minecraft crash report. Who do I send it to?
#179 [04:45] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#180 [04:45] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#181 [04:45] <Mousiee> Ok be right back then
#182 [04:47] <Mousiee> Ok here we are
#183 [04:47] <Mousiee> http://pastebin.com/3J3Y5aRh
#184 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> :fu
#185 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, normally that's info about forcing an update
#186 [04:49] <DiskDaemon> :: forceupdate
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#188 [04:49] <DiskDaemon> ?? forceupdate
#189 [04:49] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#190 [04:49] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#191 [04:49] <Mousiee> I had no update prompt as I use MagicLauncher1.0.0
#192 [04:49] <Mousiee> OK I will try that
#193 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> pardon me for pointing this out, but that sounds to be quite a weakness with the magic launcher program then
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#195 [04:50] <Mousiee> This is the first time I have had a crash report
#196 [04:51] <Mousiee> I've been using MagicLauncher since 0.9.8
#197 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> Don't worry, I still use it too
#198 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> I'm working on preferring MultiMC though
#199 [04:52] <Mousiee> I have to use it because I use Optifine
#200 [04:53] <Mousiee> Ok I used the official Minecraft client and forced update. Now at 1.4.4. So I will now try MagicLauncher and see if the problem reoccurs after I update my Optifine to 1.4.4
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#207 [04:56] <Mousiee> Ok everything works now. Thank you all for the help
#208 [04:57] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#209 [04:58] <Mousiee> @DiskDaemon: What do YOU do when playing Minecraft solo. What keeps it interesting for you?
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#211 [04:59] <DiskDaemon> survival, gathering, exploring, refining how things look, experimenting, redstone stuff, connecting places together, efficiently gathering resources, etc...
#212 [04:59] <Mousiee> Everything then xD
#213 [05:00] <Mousiee> Ok fair comment
#214 [05:00] <DiskDaemon> Oh, and when a new update comes along that changes something in the generation of the land - it's time for a new world :)
#215 [05:01] <Mousiee> In what respect? Explain a little more about this new update. Is this 1.4.5?
#216 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> For example when witches were added with their cottages to swamp biomes
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#218 [05:01] <Mousiee> I have yet to see a witch
#219 [05:01] <Mousiee> :\
#220 [05:02] <DiskDaemon> They're somewhat rare, but with some exploration you'll come across one in a swamp biome somewhere. Fighting them is only for when you're really tooled up though
#221 [05:03] <Mousiee> Yeah I've seen enough videos of them. I'm excited about the forge though
#222 [05:03] <Mousiee> Anvil rather
#223 [05:04] <Mousiee> I watch a lot of Paulsoaresjr videos on YouTube
#224 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> Indeed - not only does it repair, but it lets you combine two similar enchantments to get an item with the next higher power of enchantment
#225 [05:05] <Mousiee> Yes, and also combine two enchanted items to create one with both enchantments on
#226 [05:06] <Mousiee> I know - - Awesome
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#250 [06:21] <Sturm> Hi! I'm unable to try the Minecraft demo. Mojang account is activated and credentials work on website. When I'm trying to login via Minecraft Launcher I get 'Login failed'. Any advice?
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#260 [06:38] <RC_Cola> Hey guys! i'm just going to advertise my new minecraft collab, if anyone would want to join... here's the link http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1568329-minecraft-traps-collab/
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#265 [06:42] <RC_Cola> Hey guys! i'm just going to advertise my new minecraft collab, if anyone would like to join... here's the link http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1568329-minecraft-traps-collab/
#266 [06:43] <Calinou> no advertising here please
#267 [06:44] <RC_Cola> oh... ok... but i anyone would like to join, the thread is always open for you guys to join :)
#268 [06:44] <RC_Cola> it'll be fun and will be a big one :D
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#281 [07:18] <brightwanderer> Hi, I'm getting the "bad video card drivers" error - specifically "cannot detect accelerated open gl". I have updated my drivers to the latest version from the Intel website. More details and logs posted at the Minecraft forums - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1571077-open-gl-error-despite-updated-drivers/ . Any thoughts? I'm stuck.
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#286 [07:31] <stealthcraft> hello!help?
#287 [07:31] <Andrio> What do you need help with?
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#289 [07:33] <stealthcraft> hi
#290 [07:34] <stealthcraft> im playing minecraft pe 0.5.0 survival mode and the problem is everytime i quit the app and return it switches to creative mode and i lose everything.any ideas?
#291 [07:34] <frogmella> anyone know if there is a mod that has a target block and when hit with arrow or snowball ect. it will trigger or power redstone like a button?
#292 [07:36] <frogmella> .join
#293 [07:36] <frogmella> .join #bukkit
#294 [07:37] <Andrio> /join #bukkit
#295 [07:37] <stealthcraft> adrio any ideas?
#296 [07:38] <Andrio> I don't play the pocket edition much.
#297 [07:38] <Andrio> The free version doesn't let you save, though.
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#302 [08:01] <kenn> Ok I can play minecraft on my own computer but none of my buddies can connect. I looked it up and apparently my port is not open, so my IP is too short or something... help plz!?
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#309 [08:17] <nima> hi helpful lurkers, is anyone on 1.4.5 yet - i can't seem to load the browser game, my launcher says login failed (not downloaded)
#310 [08:18] <nima> btw i'm new and haven't run minecraft before
#311 [08:18] <nima> so no files exist at the moment - tried with both launcher linked in email and from website
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#315 [08:20] <frogmella> did you buy it?
#316 [08:20] <nima> yes
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#318 [08:21] <nima> got confirmation email
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#320 [08:21] <frogmella> https://minecraft.net/download
#321 [08:21] <frogmella> did you download from there?
#322 [08:21] <nima> yes that's the launcher if i'm not mistaken which looks like it will download the actual game
#323 [08:22] <nima> i've got an empty .minecraft folder in %appdata%
#324 [08:22] <nima> this is windows 7 64 bit btw
#325 [08:22] <frogmella> it will not download any files until you login.
#326 [08:22] <nima> which is broken it seems i keep getting login failed
#327 [08:22] <nima> when i can login exactly the same on minecraft.net
#328 [08:23] <frogmella> you verify your email? and got the correct username/password?
#329 [08:23] <nima> fairly certain i have
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#331 [08:24] <nima> could it be a firewall thing?
#332 [08:24] <nima> i have the windows firewall down
#333 [08:24] <nima> do i need to portforward the launcher ?
#334 [08:24] <frogmella> no you shouldnt. try to login to minecraft.net?
#335 [08:24] <nima> yeap done that
#336 [08:25] <frogmella> you can login to minecraft.net but not the launcher?
#337 [08:25] <nima> correct
#338 [08:25] <frogmella> hmmm never heard of that. thats odd
#339 [08:25] <nima> i believe i've already locked my self out with repeat bad passwords but can now access again
#340 [08:27] <nima> yes just logged out of the website and back in, and continue to fail at the launcher
#341 [08:28] <nima> but i do understand that an update is rolling out around now?
#342 [08:29] <m0nk> !paid nima
#343 [08:29] <m0nk> lo
#344 [08:29] <m0nk> l
#345 [08:29] <frogmella> 1.4.5 came out few hours ago but should stop you from logging in
#346 [08:30] <frogmella> shouldn't*
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#348 [08:30] <nima> whaat was with the paid script ?
#349 [08:30] <nima> pretty sure i didn't use that email address with this nick and i'm not registered on this server
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#351 [08:31] <m0nk> do you do anything different while youre trying to login on the site and the launcher?
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#353 [08:31] <m0nk> like your nick instead of mail address?
#354 [08:31] <nima> nope even copy pasted as well to check
#355 [08:32] <m0nk> tried downloading a new launcher?
#356 [08:32] <frogmella> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/823771-launcher-login-error-w-mojang-account
#357 [08:32] <nima> yeap this was with both the link from the confrim email and a fresh download off the site
#358 [08:32] <nima> twice
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#360 [08:33] <nima> i could be the first new customer since the 1.4.5 update so maybe something is broken for that specific case
#361 [08:34] <nima> well frogmella i didn't have any other login details but the email i used with mojang
#362 [08:35] <frogmella> https://account.mojang.com/login can you login here?
#363 [08:35] <nima> logged in
#364 [08:36] <nima> it says i have an unredeemed copy :S
#365 [08:36] <nima> done
#366 [08:37] <nima> that's a bit of a convoluted install procedure
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#368 [08:37] <nima> didn't give me any indication of the final step
#369 [08:37] <nima> thanks didn't think to look back at the parent site
#370 [08:37] <lightstal> hello?
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#372 [08:37] <lightstal> all migrated accounts have stopped working as of now
#373 [08:37] <frogmella> yea idk how it all works. I can play MC without a account on mojang.com
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#375 [08:38] <lightstal> if anybody knows
#376 [08:38] <lightstal> please tell in chat
#377 [08:38] <nima> well it's working now so i can now proceed to fail at my academic pursuits and life in general
#378 [08:38] <lightstal> what has happened
#379 [08:39] <frogmella> well glad we figured it out. Enjoy!!
#380 [08:39] <lightstal> i am sorry but it is still not working
#381 [08:39] <nima> cheers
#382 [08:39] <lightstal> ENJOY
#383 [08:39] <frogmella> lightstal whats the problem?
#384 [08:39] <lightstal> not
#385 [08:39] <lightstal> cant login
#386 [08:39] <nima> sorry lightstal that was my problem fixed
#387 [08:40] <frogmella> cant login to what?
#388 [08:40] <lightstal> mc
#389 [08:40] <lightstal> i cant login through launcher
#390 [08:40] <nima> frogmella probably has this covererd
#391 [08:40] <lightstal> and?
#392 [08:40] <nima> launcher apparently uses email address now
#393 [08:40] <lightstal> how is it gana be fixed
#394 [08:40] <lightstal> i know
#395 [08:40] <lightstal> i cant login
#396 [08:40] <frogmella> im not entirely sure what me and nima did but try to login to mojang.net?
#397 [08:41] <lightstal> with acc
#398 [08:41] <frogmella> mojang.com *
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#400 [08:41] <lightstal> i can lgin there but not in my launcger
#401 [08:41] <frogmella> try to use your email and a username
#402 [08:41] <nima> does it say anywhere about redeeming a copy of mc ?
#403 [08:41] <frogmella> email as a username*
#404 [08:41] <nima> i had to click that and create a profile name
#405 [08:42] <lightstal> yea
#406 [08:42] <lightstal> ...
#407 [08:42] <lightstal> it says login failed
#408 [08:42] <nima> login failed at majang or the launcher ?
#409 [08:42] <nima> and can you login to minecraft.net
#410 [08:43] <lightstal> i can login at minecraft.net but not in launcher
#411 [08:43] <frogmella> in the launcher you using a name or email as a username?
#412 [08:43] <lightstal> email as my account is igrated
#413 [08:44] <frogmella> maybe try to request a new password?
#414 [08:44] <nima> and mojang.com ?
#415 [08:44] <lightstal> i did
#416 [08:44] <lightstal> ...
#417 [08:45] <lightstal> i can loginto all but launcher
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#420 [08:46] <nima> and mojang.com says you are a proud owner ertc
#421 [08:46] <nima> *etc
#422 [08:46] <lightstal> no
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#424 [08:46] <nima> or rather under games minecraft with a profile name
#425 [08:46] <lightstal> so????????????????????????????????????????????????????????//
#426 [08:47] <nima> just wondering that might be it cause of weirdness in a new update
#427 [08:47] <lightstal> it is
#428 [08:47] <frogmella> did you confirm your email when you migrated account?
#429 [08:47] <lightstal> it just happened yesterday
#430 [08:47] <lightstal> i did <.< obviously
#431 [08:48] <lightstal> so??
#432 [08:48] <lightstal> any answers?
#433 [08:49] <lightstal> guys?
#434 [08:49] <lightstal> guysz///???
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#437 [08:52] <nima> I'm trying to find a launcher version for what i'm using
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#439 [08:52] <nima> but i can't find any numbers - have you tried getting a fresh copy of the launcher ?
#440 [08:52] <lightstal> yea
#441 [08:53] <lightstal> it just keeps saying login failed
#442 [08:53] <lightstal> login failed
#443 [08:53] <nima> and the play offline thing is greyed out ?
#444 [08:53] <lightstal> no\
#445 [08:54] <frogmella> can you play via browser?
#446 [08:54] <lightstal> yes
#447 [08:54] <lightstal> but too laggy
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#451 [08:58] <lightstal> frog
#452 [08:58] <frogmella> you must have wrong email or password then. get a new password and try again
#453 [08:58] <lightstal> whatcha doin
#454 [08:59] <lightstal> i was just finished doing it
#455 [08:59] <frogmella> buildin on my server
#456 [08:59] <lightstal> ip?
#457 [08:59] <lightstal> dude
#458 [08:59] <frogmella> white-list. testing mods and setting up bukkit and getting basic stuff built
#459 [09:00] <lightstal> ...
#460 [09:00] <lightstal> k
#461 [09:00] <lightstal> can i join
#462 [09:00] <frogmella> you need to login first ;p
#463 [09:00] <lightstal> done
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#465 [09:01] <lightstal> dude whats the ip
#466 [09:01] <frogmella> to what?
#467 [09:01] <lightstal> ur server
#468 [09:01] <frogmella> its white listed. not open yet
#469 [09:02] <lightstal> then white list me
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#471 [09:02] <lightstal> or just tell me the server
#472 [09:02] <Necrodoom> lightstal: whitelist = he doesnt want anyone there
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#478 [09:25] <hoele> HELP: I have no sounds/music in minecraft and i cant connect to my server!! If i try to set sounds/musics in the options-menu, minecraft crashes!!!!
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#481 [09:29] <bus> hola peoples
#482 [09:29] <bus> ran into an issues with me minecraft... i need some... help
#483 [09:29] <bus> anyoe here up yet this am?
#484 [09:30] <hoele> nobody answered me yet.....
#485 [09:30] <bus> well bummer
#486 [09:30] <hoele> so i think nobodies here....
#487 [09:30] <Selbram> ?? ask
#488 [09:30] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#489 [09:30] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#490 [09:30] <hoele> i have no sound/music in minecraft...
#491 [09:30] <bus> k...
#492 [09:31] <bus> using the optifine option for multi core cpu, every time a block ois broken i get q flashing (the whole world turns clear for a split second)
#493 [09:31] <hoele> no sound/music: if option for sound is clicked, minecraft crashes....
#494 [09:32] <Selbram> ?? mods
#495 [09:32] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#496 [09:32] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#497 [09:32] <Selbram> ?? index
#498 [09:32] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#499 [09:32] <bus> ich verstehe
#500 [09:32] <hoele> no, just texturepacks, was working fine for weeks like this...
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#503 [09:33] <bus> hoele: did you recently upddate to 64 bit java?
#504 [09:34] <hoele> no, i just tried to install 32bit, to solve the problem...
#505 [09:35] <bus> are you running 64 bit os?
#506 [09:35] <hoele> yes
#507 [09:35] <hoele> install 64 bit java?
#508 [09:35] <hoele> again
#509 [09:35] <bus> i would
#510 [09:36] <hoele> ok, i try this, thy a lot
#511 [09:36] <bus> it aloows you to run minecraft with 2G+ ram
#512 [09:36] * Corin|Away is now known as Corin
#513 [09:37] <bus> after installing 64 bit java, make sure minecraft is using it
#514 [09:37] <bus> you can alos go into .minecraft/bin/natives and remove the none 64 bit files
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#516 [09:38] <bus> remove: openal32, jinput-dx8, jinput-raw, and lwjgl
#517 [09:38] <fullfatmark> minecraft keeps crashing after login - A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000004fd7ee1f, pid=4880, tid=2768 # # JRE version: 6.0_14-b08 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (14.0-b16 mixed mode windows-amd64 ) # Problematic frame: # C [ig4icd64.dll+0x3ee1f] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: #
#518 [09:38] <bus> you should see the 64 bit counterparts to the files still in the native folder
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#523 [09:41] <Turtle_> Hey umm.. I tried playing minecraft and it looks like its loading, but then it blanks aka it doesn't show up on my browser screen anymore.. Is there a type of Java file i need to upload or is there something else i need to do to get this fixed?
#524 [09:43] <Selbram> download the launcher and play it through that
#525 [09:43] <Selbram> download the launcher and play it through that
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#528 [09:51] <bus> i found the fix for the optifine issue if anyone else has the problem
#529 [09:52] <bus> using the optifine multicore setting getting blinking blocks was solved by turning off multi threading in the nvidia control panel
#530 [09:53] <bus> so... stick that in your pipe ad smoke it
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#537 [10:00] <Ramen> Hello
#538 [10:00] <frogmella> o/
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#540 [10:01] <samas> hello
#541 [10:02] <samas> how long does it take customer service to usually respond to emails?
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#543 [10:09] <Boreeas> samas: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#544 [10:10] <samas> @Boreeas: thanks!
#545 [10:10] <Boreeas> No problem
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#547 [10:13] <samas> i've only been waiting forever for the authentication email so i can speak lol
#548 [10:13] <samas> crazy IRC rules
#549 [10:16] <Kirsche> Hi guys, i have problems with the multiplayer server, me and my friends can't reach server, is the mc server down or am i doing something wrong? :/
#550 [10:17] <Selbram> can you reach other servers
#551 [10:18] * _Rogue_ is now known as Rogue[Away]
#552 [10:18] <Kirsche> single player works, but i tried to make another multiplayer server, same problem, can't reach server
#553 [10:18] <frogmella> www.mojang.help
#554 [10:19] <frogmella> http://help.mojang.com/
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#556 [10:20] <Kirsche> looks like everything is working there :/ i don't get it
#557 [10:20] <frogmella> did you port forward?
#558 [10:21] * samas listens for pin dropping
#558 [10:21] <frogmella> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye_BnHAEJGU
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#562 [10:24] <Kirsche> i
#563 [10:25] <Kirsche> i'm using hamachi
#564 [10:25] <Selbram> don't use hamachi
#565 [10:26] <Selbram> ?? fubar/hamachi
#566 [10:26] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#567 [10:26] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#568 [10:26] <Kirsche> did something change because of 1.4.5? Two days ago everything was working
#569 [10:27] <samas> can't we all just 127.0.0.1
#570 [10:27] <samas> why so much hamachi hate?
#571 [10:28] <Selbram> because it is broken
#572 [10:29] <samas> hamachi isn't the only one "squatting" on 5.*.*.*. there are others like Tunngle, js
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#574 [10:30] <Selbram> they were not mentioned in this conversation
#575 [10:31] <Kirsche> i'm not sure if i got the problem, but there is no help to get if i using hamachi, right?
#576 [10:31] <Selbram> port forward
#577 [10:34] <Kirsche> ok, i will try it ^^ thx
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#579 [10:40] <DemonKnight> kirsche
#580 [10:40] <DemonKnight> make sure your rooter adress asnt change
#581 [10:40] <DemonKnight> ;)
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#587 [10:55] <Frostic> nice topic. wish more ppl was like me and acctually read it lol
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#589 [10:58] <remusg> how much damage does suffocation do per tick?
#590 [10:59] <remusg> its for my golem trap
#591 [10:59] <remusg> for the timer
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#594 [11:01] <wae> hello
#595 [11:01] <cacciapoke> hello
#596 [11:01] <cacciapoke> i have a problem with verify email
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#598 [11:01] <wae> what is the e-mail adress of mojang
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#600 [11:02] <Selbram> http://help.mojang.com
#601 [11:02] <wae> how is it called
#602 [11:02] <cacciapoke> -_-
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#617 [11:33] <IMAwesome> Anyone here
#618 [11:34] <IMAwesome> I have downloaded a mod called Single Player Commands it was an installer with it now it is installed at least i think and now im getting black screen
#619 [11:35] <Selbram> ?? mods
#620 [11:35] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#621 [11:35] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#624 [11:36] <IMAwesome> Thnz
#625 [11:36] <IMAwesome> thanks
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#672 [12:59] <Ddave> He every time I try to enter my account on my new laptop it cant
#673 [13:00] <Grim_Reaper> It can't.. what?
#674 [13:00] <Eddie> it can't... enter :p
#675 [13:00] <Ddave> yeah lol
#676 [13:01] <Grim_Reaper> Oh
#677 [13:01] <Grim_Reaper> I misread
#678 [13:01] <Grim_Reaper> Tried running as admin?
#679 [13:01] <Grim_Reaper> Updated java and all your drivers/
#680 [13:01] <Ddave> yeah I tried all that
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#682 [13:02] <Grim_Reaper> What operating system are you running. And any particular anti viruses?
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#684 [13:03] <Ddave> I have spybot
#685 [13:03] <Grim_Reaper> Mk. See if perhaps adding minecraft to it's exception list or something might help
#686 [13:06] <Ddave> oh and my operating system is windows 7 premium
#687 [13:08] <Grim_Reaper> Alrighty
#688 [13:09] <Grim_Reaper> I can only think that something is blocking you from typing in your username and details
#689 [13:09] <Grim_Reaper> Perhaps try playing in your browser
#690 [13:09] <Ddave> at that point it logs on but only a white screen comes up
#691 [13:10] <Grim_Reaper> Oh so you can login?
#692 [13:10] <Grim_Reaper> I was under the impression that you couldn't type in your details :|
#693 [13:10] <Ddave> to the website yes but not in the launcher
#694 [13:10] <Grim_Reaper> Oh ok
#695 [13:10] <Grim_Reaper> ?? win/.minecraft
#696 [13:10] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#697 [13:10] <Grim_Reaper> Try deleting the .minecraft folder inside there
#698 [13:11] <Grim_Reaper> And try see if a reinstall work
#699 [13:11] <Grim_Reaper> s*
#700 [13:11] <Grim_Reaper> Also are you using any mods?
#701 [13:11] <Ddave> no mods
#702 [13:11] <Grim_Reaper> K well try the reinstall :p
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#704 [13:16] <Ddave> and it didn't work
#705 [13:17] <Grim_Reaper> Bleh ;-;
#706 [13:17] <Grim_Reaper> Eddie you got any ideas man
#707 [13:17] <Grim_Reaper> Or Morrolan d:
#708 [13:18] <Eddie> nope
#709 [13:18] <Eddie> D:
#710 [13:18] <Grim_Reaper> ;-;
#711 [13:18] <Grim_Reaper> Im really not sure what else to try :|
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#713 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> Ddave
#714 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> If you're running 64bit
#715 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> Make sure you have both 32bit and 64bit installed
#716 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> Also would you mind doing the following
#717 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> ?? win/dxdiag
#718 [13:19] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#719 [13:19] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#720 [13:19] <Atsman> I installed a plugin needed for minecraft but the will not respond and will leave the screen blank
#721 [13:20] <Grim_Reaper> Chances are Atsman, the plugin is either installed incorrectly
#722 [13:20] <Grim_Reaper> Or minecraft isn't working with it
#723 [13:20] <Atsman> how do I fix it?
#724 [13:20] <Grim_Reaper> Usually plugins/mods
#725 [13:20] <Grim_Reaper> You need to make sure to delete the meta.inf in the minecraft.jar
#726 [13:20] <Grim_Reaper> But other than that.. I don't have any other suggestions
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#728 [13:21] <Atsman> It will also have the loading screen and will freeze at "Done Loading" part.
#729 [13:21] <Atsman> I will try That.
#730 [13:22] <Atsman> I have a macbook and how do I get to it I know how to do it on a dell but not a MacBook Pro.
#731 [13:23] <Ddave> Okay I did what you asked
#732 [13:23] <Ddave> http://pastebin.com/ZmgYCDYx
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#734 [13:24] <Grim_Reaper> ?? mac/.minecraft
#735 [13:24] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
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#738 [13:24] <Grim_Reaper> Ok Ddave. It's possible your chipset might be a little low on memory video card wise to play minecraft
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#740 [13:25] <Atsman> How do I delete the minecraft.jar on a macbook pro?
#741 [13:25] <Grim_Reaper> By going to that folder
#742 [13:25] <Grim_Reaper> That graphics card doesn't have much dedicated memory
#743 [13:25] <Grim_Reaper> So it wouldn't surprise me if that was the reason you're minecraft won't play
#744 [13:25] <Atsman> How do I get to that folder?
#745 [13:25] <Grim_Reaper> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#746 [13:25] <BSauer> I am having a problem with the minecraft on when Im loading into the minecraft and it will say to me done loading and stop from then, like frezzing the page
#747 [13:26] <Grim_Reaper> BSauer are you using any mods?
#748 [13:26] <BSauer> What are the mods???
#749 [13:27] <Grim_Reaper> I guess not
#750 [13:27] <Grim_Reaper> Ok umm
#751 [13:27] <BSauer> Never mind i Know what they are
#752 [13:27] <Grim_Reaper> Are you using any?
#753 [13:27] <BSauer> No we are not
#754 [13:28] <Ddave> Well thanks any way for your time
#755 [13:28] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry Ddave =\
#756 [13:28] <Grim_Reaper> But yeah
#757 [13:28] <Grim_Reaper> Best thing I can suggest
#758 [13:28] <Grim_Reaper> Try making sure all your drivers are up to date
#759 [13:28] <Grim_Reaper> On intels website
#760 [13:28] <Ddave> dont worry about it :)
#761 [13:28] <Grim_Reaper> Other than that. Im not sure what else you can try
#762 [13:28] <Grim_Reaper> BSauer try reinstall minecraft. What operating system are you running?
#763 [13:29] <BSauer> i dont know
#764 [13:29] <Atsman> Look we already have a acount but it will not work on a different laptop that does not have a purchased minecraft.
#765 [13:29] <Grim_Reaper> Windows xp? Windows 7/
#766 [13:29] <Grim_Reaper> Mac os?
#767 [13:29] <BSauer> macbook pro
#768 [13:29] <Grim_Reaper> Ok
#769 [13:29] <Grim_Reaper> ?? mac/.minecraft
#770 [13:30] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#771 [13:30] <Grim_Reaper> Uninstall minecraft there
#772 [13:30] <Grim_Reaper> Delete it etc
#773 [13:30] <Grim_Reaper> Atsman. Did you try uninstall by deleting that folder?
#774 [13:30] <Atsman> Minecraft is not there
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#777 [13:31] <Grim_Reaper> Ok please try making sure you're drivers are up to date on the mac. Please be sure that you're running I think.. oracle version of java.. If you are. try sunsdk.
#778 [13:32] <Atsman> Ok
#779 [13:32] <Grim_Reaper> BSauer once you've uninstalled minecraft. Try redownload everything and see if it works then
#780 [13:32] <BSauer> We have already tryed that
#781 [13:33] <Grim_Reaper> Ok and have you got java (sunsdk or oracle installed)?
#782 [13:34] <BSauer> Yes we got the newest version of java
#783 [13:34] <Atsman> I downloaded the Java that Minecraft told me to when it said that we need to install a new plugin
#784 [13:34] <Grim_Reaper> Ok well other than that. Im really not sure what else to try. My experience in macs.. is... Nothing. I've never used a mac.
#785 [13:34] <Atsman> Bye I will contact you if I have any more problems
#786 [13:35] <Grim_Reaper> So unless somebody else here can help you
#787 [13:35] <Grim_Reaper> Im not sure
#788 [13:35] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry =\
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#791 [13:37] <unimatrix> anyone here who would like to make a video for a server?
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#794 [13:42] <Calinou> unimatrix: doit
#795 [13:42] <unimatrix> i would if i could
#796 [13:42] <Calinou> why couldn't you? :)
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#798 [13:42] <unimatrix> pc isnt up to specs
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#800 [13:43] <Calinou> :|
#801 [13:43] <unimatrix> and i wouldnt know how to edit it either
#802 [13:43] <Calinou> openshot is a decent video editor
#803 [13:43] <Calinou> there are a lot of video editors actually..
#804 [13:43] <unimatrix> yes but when one cannot record decent material
#805 [13:43] <Calinou> my pc is to specs, yes, but why would you want to do a video?
#806 [13:44] <unimatrix> one does not bother to try edditing
#807 [13:44] <unimatrix> promotion for my server
#808 [13:44] <Calinou> heh
#809 [13:45] * Calinou installed ffmpeg
#809 [13:45] <unimatrix> sadly i cant afford to pay anyone to do it
#810 [13:45] <unimatrix> best i can do is give the person a vip rank
#811 [13:45] <Calinou> why would you pay someone for doing that O_o
#812 [13:45] <unimatrix> only the sun rises for free my friend
#813 [13:46] <Scott> It sets for $1.
#814 [13:47] <Calinou> lol
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#817 [13:49] <unimatrix> lol
#818 [13:51] <Jimmy06> Ok guys my nice Windows 8 is having an issues with java or the other way around. After connecting to a server (my server) Java.exe crashes
#819 [13:51] <Calinou> "Windows 8 issues? Try disabling Metro." --topic
#820 [13:51] <Jimmy06> I dont intend on hacking out Metro
#821 [13:52] <Jimmy06> Hacking out metro is not really a proper work around to an issue
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#824 [13:55] <Jimmy06> vs
#825 [13:55] <frogmella> java.exe? doesn't MC run javaw.exe?
#826 [13:56] <Jimmy06> ok java crashes the windows vanishes to fast to read :P
#827 [13:56] <frogmella> running the latest java?
#828 [13:56] <Jimmy06> yeah
#829 [13:57] <Jimmy06> Its running ok since i enabled use advanced opengl
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#832 [13:58] <Calinou> javaw.exe == graphical applications, java.exe == commandline apps
#833 [13:58] <Calinou> Jimmy06: try disabling it, it's not really useful anyway
#834 [13:59] <Jimmy06> Its uesful to me
#835 [14:00] <Jimmy06> It snot crashing now anyway :S
#836 [14:00] <Jimmy06> It's not
#837 [14:03] <frogmella> .join #essentials
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#843 [14:05] <yoshi> Hello friends, I wonder if that's my song julie What is your comment? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBNMbhzn5cs
#844 [14:05] <yoshi> Hello friends, I wonder if that's my song julie What is your comment? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBNMbhzn5cs
#845 [14:05] <yoshi> Hello friends, I wonder if that's my song julie What is your comment? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBNMbhzn5cs
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#849 [14:07] <Eddie> huh?
#850 [14:07] <Cicero|Away> what
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#852 [14:08] <Lutzee> Spammer
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#862 [14:36] <Drazzild> hallo
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#876 [15:06] <Ramen> Good night ;D
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#879 [15:11] <Lutzee> !check 86.169.15.43:2110
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#881 [15:17] <wikkit> ive recived the fatal error (4) null when trying to update minecraft to 1.4.5 and i have no idea how to fix it
#882 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Force update
#883 [15:17] <wikkit> how?
#884 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> from the launcher, before logging in, hit Options, then Force Update. Then log in as normal
#885 [15:20] <wikkit> still crashed
#886 [15:21] <wikkit> it said: Failed to Launch, Fatal Error (4): null
#887 [15:23] <wikkit> any other ideas?
#888 [15:23] <wikkit> any other ideas?
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#891 [15:28] <mib_14gmpw> ive recive the fatal error 4 null when trying to update minecraft 1.4.5. ive tried to force update with no avail
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#894 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Disable your AV.
#895 [15:30] <mib_14gmpw> whats that?
#896 [15:30] <mib_14gmpw> oh anti virus
#897 [15:30] <mib_14gmpw> ok ill try
#898 [15:32] <mib_14gmpw> i belive its working
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#900 [15:32] <mib_14gmpw> it worked thank you so much!
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#902 [15:33] <tssguy123> Did the update break gravel? Whenever gravel/sand falls now, it's REALLY... laggy.
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#906 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> don't believe so..
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#908 [15:41] <tssguy123> it was working fine before i updated this morning, it's a shame.
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#913 [15:49] <pfsmorigo> hi, is there a trick to get wither skeleton heads? I killed lot of them and I just got coal and bone...
#914 [15:50] <Grim_Reaper> No trick
#915 [15:50] <Grim_Reaper> Just rare to get a head
#916 [15:50] <Selbram> keep killing them
#917 [15:50] <Grim_Reaper> You'll get one! eventually
#918 [15:50] <BSauer> The minecraft says that it is done loading but it just frezzes right there
#919 [15:50] <pfsmorigo> changing the difficultty will increase the changes?
#920 [15:50] <pfsmorigo> s/changes/chances/
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#922 [15:51] <BSauer> The minecraft says that it is done loading but it just frezzes right there
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#946 [16:31] <Mikey> I cannot connect to minecraft.net using the launcher after I installed java-64 bit. I previously could, but I was using 32-bit. This is a 64 bit machine. I can connect using the website, and I have restarted my computer. Any ideas?
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#959 [17:12] <boxford> Just updated to 1.4.5 and having some render issues. It is constantly flashing showing lower levels of the world (like when using an x-ray) and colours of chests keep changing
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#962 [17:14] <Slick_Ace> hi when ever i go on minecraft my water is glitched out and its invisibale. im on a mac
#963 [17:14] <Slick_Ace> plz help
#964 [17:15] <Slick_Ace> hello
#965 [17:15] <Slick_Ace> a
#966 [17:15] <Slick_Ace> a
#967 [17:15] <Slick_Ace> a
#968 [17:16] <Slick_Ace> hello
#969 [17:16] <FLHerne> Slick_Ace: I can hear you, but I don't have a Mac :P
#970 [17:16] <NinjaKirby> "Patience is a virtue", quoting Rachel Weisz
#971 [17:16] <FLHerne> Also, please don't spam the channel
#972 [17:16] <Slick_Ace> sorry
#973 [17:17] <FLHerne> If you don't have a reply, it's because no-one who knows the answer is watching the chat at that moment
#974 [17:17] <FLHerne> Hang around a bit, someone will turn up evetually ;-)
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#980 [17:20] <jakyocaw> i have a question, okay i will be playing minecraft online ( i play on raid.savagerealms.net) and i get disconnected sometimes jsut randomly when i hit a tiny lag spike. but i dont disconnect from the server or chat, anything i can do to fix this?
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#984 [17:21] <jakyocaw> anyone know how to fix that? i can still move around, but other people see me standing still.
#985 [17:22] <FLHerne> That's not a problem I've heard before :-/
#986 [17:22] <Smanly> jakyocaw: how many people are opn the server?
#987 [17:22] <FLHerne> Then again, I don't play MP that much :P
#988 [17:22] <jakyocaw> id say sometimes from 30-100
#989 [17:22] <Smanly> The server is just overloaded. Find a good one.
#990 [17:23] <jakyocaw> as far as i know im the only one with the issue though, everyone else never disconnects
#991 [17:23] <Smanly> Then you must have crap networking.
#992 [17:23] <jakyocaw> lol, whats that exactly mean x)
#993 [17:23] <jakyocaw> like can i fix that?
#994 [17:24] <Smanly> You can upgrade your speeds.
#995 [17:24] <Smanly> Go to speedtest.net
#996 [17:24] <NinjaKirby> Begin digging the ultimate trench in your Front garden, towards your Closest PSTN Exchange.
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#1002 [17:29] <kiugetski> is there a chat where we can find pure legit players ?
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#1004 [17:29] <jb> kkk
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#1006 [17:29] <NinjaKirby> Pure of heart.
#1007 [17:30] <FLHerne> kiugetski: Unlikely. How would that be checked? :P
#1008 [17:30] <kiugetski> backtrack5 linux server minecraft
#1009 [17:32] <jb> i my son has downlaoded the game for pc and wanst to be able to play against his brother and sister on their pc. how do we do this?
#1010 [17:33] <Boreeas> kiugetski: Why would you choose backtrack as a server distro?
#1011 [17:33] <kiugetski> make a server
#1012 [17:33] <FLHerne> jb: Join a server (the same one)
#1013 [17:33] <kiugetski> and use localhost ip
#1014 [17:34] <jb> by servser do you mean th eon eon the site to download? does thsi just alow the 3 kids to play one another?
#1015 [17:34] <FLHerne> jb: Are you in the same house (connected to the same router)?
#1016 [17:34] <kiugetski> nah
#1017 [17:34] <jb> yes same house and router. 3 desktops not networked.
#1018 [17:35] <kiugetski> a rooter is a network lol
#1019 [17:35] <FLHerne> jb: In that case, just pressing 'open to LAN' on one of the clients should work
#1020 [17:35] <jb> sorry not as samrt as you
#1021 [17:35] <FLHerne> kiugetski: Not necessarily. It can be a component of one
#1022 [17:35] <kiugetski> for some isp only
#1023 [17:35] <kiugetski> :)
#1024 [17:36] * FLHerne has rather too many routers :D
#1024 [17:36] <Boreeas> The ISP has nothing to do with this
#1025 [17:36] <kiugetski> such as bell canada
#1026 [17:36] <FLHerne> kiugetski: What are you on about?
#1027 [17:36] <jb> do the other 2 kids need to download the game too?
#1028 [17:36] <FLHerne> jb: Yes
#1029 [17:36] <kiugetski> yes they do
#1030 [17:36] <Boreeas> jb: Yes, and they will need to purchase it, too
#1031 [17:36] <FLHerne> s/need to/legally should do/ , but same point
#1032 [17:37] <jb> will open to LAn only allow the kids to play one antoher or can others access too. i want it so only the kids play one another.
#1033 [17:38] <FLHerne> Only local players (as in, connected to your router)
#1034 [17:38] <Boreeas> Only people at your house will be able to join
#1035 [17:38] <Boreeas> Equally, when the person that opened the world closes the game, all other players will be disconnected
#1036 [17:38] <kiugetski> jb join #smp for servers
#1037 [17:38] <FLHerne> kiugetski: I doubt that's relevant for LAN sharing
#1038 [17:39] <kiugetski> ah ok
#1039 [17:39] <kiugetski> badly read
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#1047 [17:55] <hostiledude> i can not update my minecraft to the new update and i have no idea what to do i have been trying to a long time and i cant find a way to update it
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#1049 [17:56] <frogmella> options > force update?
#1050 [17:57] <hostiledude> i have tried that alot too, no progress
#1051 [17:57] <hostiledude> sorry if my sentences are messed up my keyboard is broken i cant make periods
#1052 [17:57] <frogmella> if that fails backup .minecraft and redownload it all
#1053 [17:57] <frogmella> backup, delete and then redownload*
#1054 [17:58] <hostiledude> wont thay delete my worlds?
#1055 [17:58] <hostiledude> that*
#1056 [17:58] <frogmella> hence why i said backup :) you can then transfer the old worlds (saves folder) to the new minecraft
#1057 [17:59] <hostiledude> well it updates a little and then stops and fails should i still back it up and delete it and put it in my new minecraft?
#1058 [18:01] <frogmella> always backup before making any updates or changes or installing mods. not sure why it stops and fails though
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#1061 [18:01] <hostiledude> ok i will back it up delete it and then down load a new minecraft and see if it works brb
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#1063 [18:02] <Brunkage> hello
#1064 [18:02] <frogmella> hi
#1065 [18:02] <Brunkage> guys is it true the rumours i have heard?
#1066 [18:03] <Lutzee> Depends on said rumors
#1067 [18:03] <frogmella> ?
#1068 [18:03] <Brunkage> that minecraft will soon try to prevent agains client mods
#1069 [18:03] <Brunkage> like so u can choose not to allow ppl with mods on server?
#1070 [18:03] <Lutzee> Nope, they are actively making a mod aPI
#1071 [18:03] <Lutzee> API
#1072 [18:03] <Brunkage> oh
#1073 [18:03] <hostiledude> like no using TMI or optifine?
#1074 [18:03] <Brunkage> thats like...
#1075 [18:03] <Brunkage> the opposite way
#1076 [18:03] <Brunkage> lol
#1077 [18:03] <frogmella> i doubt that. maybe server side but not client side
#1078 [18:03] <Lutzee> And also there is no way to prevent modded clients from joining
#1079 [18:04] <Brunkage> yes its just because im sick and tired
#1080 [18:04] <Brunkage> of all the small kids trying to ruin minecraft
#1081 [18:04] <Brunkage> with installing stuff like nodus
#1082 [18:04] <Brunkage> it ruins the pvp fun
#1083 [18:04] <Brunkage> and ruins minecraft basicly :-(
#1084 [18:04] <Smanly> yap
#1085 [18:04] <Brunkage> i hate it
#1086 [18:04] <Smanly> k
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#1088 [18:05] <Brunkage> and yeah i know there is nocheatplus etc.
#1089 [18:05] <Smanly> ya
#1090 [18:05] <Brunkage> but that wont stop it completely
#1091 [18:05] <Smanly> Sure it does.
#1092 [18:05] <Lutzee> If there are players playing on a server breaking the rules fo the server tell a server admin, if they fail to act then find a better server
#1093 [18:05] <Brunkage> especially not the pvp part
#1094 [18:05] <Smanly> It does.
#1095 [18:05] <Brunkage> well im server admin
#1096 [18:05] <Brunkage> its my server
#1097 [18:05] <Brunkage> and smanly no it doesnt
#1098 [18:05] <Smanly> Sure it does.
#1099 [18:05] <Brunkage> like radar it cannot stop
#1100 [18:06] <Smanly> Radar = pvp?
#1101 [18:06] <Brunkage> and yeah it can stop forcefield
#1102 [18:06] <Brunkage> but not aimbot
#1103 [18:06] <Lutzee> Brunkage: IP bans are more efffective than name bans
#1104 [18:06] <Brunkage> yes radar = pvp stuff
#1105 [18:06] <Brunkage> because then u cant hide
#1106 [18:06] <Brunkage> and i know how to ban and ip ban ppl
#1107 [18:06] <Brunkage> but could be nice with a perm "fix"
#1108 [18:07] <Brunkage> so it was never possible
#1109 [18:07] <Brunkage> and i could do other stuff than to follow ppl vanished on my server
#1110 [18:07] <Brunkage> to see if they hack
#1111 [18:07] <Brunkage> and smanly there is so many thing nocheatplus and other antihacks cannot stop at all
#1112 [18:08] <Brunkage> well if u have a survival only server (no pvp)
#1113 [18:08] <Brunkage> you are pretty much save
#1114 [18:08] <Smanly> Yeah, client side stuff.
#1115 [18:08] <Brunkage> well... define client side stuff
#1116 [18:08] <Brunkage> like aimbot
#1117 [18:08] <Brunkage> thats "client sided"
#1118 [18:08] <Smanly> huh?
#1119 [18:08] <Brunkage> but pretty much ruin all pvp
#1120 [18:08] <Brunkage> and it cannot be stopped
#1121 [18:08] <Lutzee> Aimbots are some of the hardest things to counter
#1122 [18:08] <Smanly> Yeah.
#1123 [18:09] <Brunkage> true
#1124 [18:09] <Brunkage> and its bad
#1125 [18:09] <Brunkage> no it cannot smanly
#1126 [18:09] <Brunkage> forcefield etc can be stopped
#1127 [18:09] <Smanly> I know... Its client side and cannot be dected.
#1128 [18:09] <Brunkage> yeah so... my conclusion is: minecraft is ruined for pvp
#1129 [18:09] <Smanly> lolno
#1130 [18:09] <Brunkage> :-( :-( :-(
#1131 [18:09] <Brunkage> yes...
#1132 [18:10] <Smanly> Ok.
#1133 [18:10] <Brunkage> well unless u just allow hacks
#1134 [18:10] <Brunkage> isnt this so sad? because i have a pvp server... and love pvp...
#1135 [18:10] <Brunkage> come on cry with me guys
#1136 [18:11] * Smanly looks blankly at Brunkage.
#1136 [18:11] <Brunkage> well... maybe i should just disable pvp then :-(
#1137 [18:12] <Smanly> What ever you say.
#1138 [18:12] <Brunkage> so minecraft should make a may so it possible to check if client is vanilla or not...
#1139 [18:13] <Brunkage> that could be nice... making it possible for u not to allow non vanilla clients...
#1140 [18:13] <Smanly> "Windows 8 issues? Try disabling Metro." You ... cant disable Metro. And its not even called Metro.
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#1143 [18:14] <Brunkage> lol what?
#1144 [18:14] <Lutzee> Smanly: most people know it as Metro now.. saying "Modern UI" will just confuse people
#1145 [18:14] <Boreeas> Smanly: But eveyone calls it that way!
#1146 [18:14] <Brunkage> and u can disable "metro" with a third party app
#1147 [18:14] <Smanly> Go on.
#1148 [18:14] <Brunkage> go on where?
#1149 [18:14] <Smanly> ...
#1150 [18:14] <Brunkage> to notch?
#1151 [18:15] <Smanly> They made it very difficult to remove "Metro"
#1152 [18:15] <Brunkage> no its possible... just not "out of the box" - you need a 3rd party app
#1153 [18:15] <Smanly> Half of the people that com in here cant even take a screenshot.
#1154 [18:15] <Brunkage> lol... im a programmer...
#1155 [18:16] <Brunkage> not much in java really though :-(
#1156 [18:16] <Smanly> What language then?
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#1158 [18:16] <Brunkage> i let microsoft set the standards :-)
#1159 [18:16] <Brunkage> c++, c# and vb
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#1161 [18:18] <Brunkage> i let microsoft set the standards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILcVwtcIylI
#1162 [18:18] <Brunkage> lol
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#1164 [18:20] <kiugetski> c++ is my best friend :P
#1165 [18:20] <kiugetski> i love that language
#1166 [18:20] <Boreeas> Eww C++
#1167 [18:20] <Brunkage> well... c++ is a really hard language... especially when u know what its "meant for"
#1168 [18:21] <kiugetski> and c# for web site making
#1169 [18:21] <Boreeas> So the better you get to know it, the harder it becomes?
#1170 [18:21] <Brunkage> like u have to thing about how u r writing every single bute
#1171 [18:21] <Brunkage> *byte
#1172 [18:21] <Brunkage> to get it as fast as possible
#1173 [18:21] <kiugetski> lol
#1174 [18:21] <Boreeas> No, that would be assembly
#1175 [18:21] <Brunkage> and to really control your rams
#1176 [18:21] <kiugetski> snipet
#1177 [18:21] <kiugetski> -_-
#1178 [18:22] <Brunkage> c++ is not for n00bs...
#1179 [18:22] <Brunkage> c# is a little more for n00bs
#1180 [18:22] <kiugetski> wtf
#1181 [18:22] <Brunkage> c# also has a garbadge collector
#1182 [18:22] <Brunkage> makes it alot easyer
#1183 [18:22] <kiugetski> you dont know what c# and c++ isnt it
#1184 [18:22] <Lutzee> The most effitient code is written in assembly
#1185 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> C# is the bastard child between java and VB
#1186 [18:22] <Brunkage> lol...
#1187 [18:22] <kiugetski> c# is for web site
#1188 [18:22] <Boreeas> What
#1189 [18:23] <Boreeas> Get out
#1190 [18:23] <kiugetski> c++ is for the machine
#1191 [18:23] <Brunkage> java has nothing to do with java
#1192 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Er, what
#1193 [18:23] <Smanly> ya
#1194 [18:23] <Brunkage> and no c# is not only for websites
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#1196 [18:23] <kiugetski> lol
#1197 [18:23] <kiugetski> ok egnouth
#1198 [18:23] <Brunkage> actually u can use c# for apps... and even together with xna
#1199 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1200 [18:23] <Brunkage> did u know that office is actually made in c#?
#1201 [18:23] <Boreeas> C# is a perfectly valid programming language, sadly.
#1202 [18:24] <Lutzee> Most .net is c# but i agree with Boreeas
#1203 [18:24] <Brunkage> yes c# is gr8
#1204 [18:24] <Lutzee> Hehe.. nice try
#1205 [18:24] <kiugetski> i just muted him
#1206 [18:24] <Brunkage> lol
#1207 [18:24] <Lutzee> Boreeas: you still haven't revealed what you like to use? :P
#1208 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Real programmers use HTML.
#1209 [18:25] * GreyVulpine nods sagely
#1209 [18:25] <Boreeas> Lutzee: Java and Python. Haskell is nice, but I haven't figured out how to use it yet. Rust looks decent, but it's kind of starting to look like C++
#1210 [18:25] <Brunkage> haha programmers...
#1211 [18:25] <kiugetski> i like to use the bible to do some prayers and wait for god to do the job for me
#1212 [18:25] <Brunkage> html is not a programming language
#1213 [18:25] <Brunkage> its a coding language
#1214 [18:25] * Boreeas facepalms
#1214 [18:25] <kiugetski> lollll
#1215 [18:25] <Brunkage> u cannot "invent" something your self...
#1216 [18:25] * Lutzee had a good guess in his head that Boreeas would have python in his list
#1216 [18:26] <Lutzee> Brunkage: HTML is a markup language
#1217 [18:26] <Boreeas> Lutzee: How? :P
#1218 [18:26] <kiugetski> hyper text markup language
#1219 [18:26] <kiugetski> more exactly :P
#1220 [18:26] <Brunkage> true... a markup language but its still coding
#1221 [18:26] <Brunkage> not programming
#1222 [18:26] <Brunkage> there is a difference
#1223 [18:26] <Boreeas> Coding and programming are synonyms
#1224 [18:26] <Boreeas> Markup languages are not coding languages
#1225 [18:27] <Brunkage> well... not really? or is it i dunno any more
#1226 [18:27] <Lutzee> Boreeas: Was just an average guess, people who aren't fond of c++ have normally come into detailed contact with python acording to my lecturer
#1227 [18:27] <kiugetski> html is almost the same as a yml or ini
#1228 [18:27] <Brunkage> my point is u only use predefined "styles" in html
#1229 [18:27] <kiugetski> its only a base
#1230 [18:27] <Boreeas> Lutzee: I hated C++ before I learned python :P
#1231 [18:28] <Lutzee> Boreeas: but it would still be unusual to find someone who doesn't like both :P
#1232 [18:28] <Boreeas> Haha
#1233 [18:28] <Brunkage> i should learn and program in python. only because then when ppl asks me what im doing i could say: im taming the snake :-) lol
#1234 [18:28] <Boreeas> Wait, that's too many negatices
#1235 [18:29] <kiugetski> dont be negative :)
#1236 [18:29] <Boreeas> Lutzee: doesn't like both → dislikes both
#1237 [18:29] <kiugetski> lol
#1238 [18:29] <Lutzee> Thanks >.>
#1239 [18:29] <Lutzee> My enlish is poor for an englishman..
#1240 [18:30] <Brunkage> but guys will go... u dont even take my point that minecraft is ruined for pvp seriously
#1241 [18:30] <Brunkage> KNOCKERS
#1242 [18:30] <kiugetski> im french
#1243 [18:30] <kiugetski> but i try to do my best
#1244 [18:30] <kiugetski> :P
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#1247 [18:33] <Lutzee> I guess i'll attempt to play SSP again as I am still unable to connect to servers..
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#1249 [18:33] <tweek> i just did the new up date and it wont let me lan connect with a friend
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#1254 [18:40] <tweek> im trying to connect with my buddys lan world but it keeps telling me connection failed. when he trys to join my lan world it just keeps searching and wont direct connect. what do i do?
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#1258 [18:44] <jeremiyah244> I just bought minecraft for mac on your website. After downloading the game, i was unable to open it. See below the message from my computer
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#1260 [18:45] <jeremiyah244> "minecraft is damaged and can't be opened. you should move it to trash"
#1261 [18:46] <Lutzee> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1262 [18:46] <jeremiyah244> Can you help me?
#1263 [18:46] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
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#1265 [18:48] <Stone526> Good afternoon everyone, I am having issues booting up minecraft, its saying i have some issue with my video card...
#1266 [18:48] <Stone526> It says "bad video card drivers" which cant be true cuz ive ran WOW and SW on here
#1267 [18:49] <Lutzee> Stone526: it can be true because minecraft uses different graphics software
#1268 [18:49] <Lutzee> ??> Stone526 win/dxdiag
#1269 [18:49] <VoxelHead> Stone526: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1270 [18:49] <VoxelHead> Stone526: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1271 [18:50] <jeremiyah244> it still not opening
#1272 [18:50] <Lutzee> jeremiyah244: what does it say?
#1273 [18:50] <Stone526> I am a litte computer illiterate lol so the win/dxdiag
#1274 [18:50] <Stone526> how do i do that?
#1275 [18:50] <Stone526> sorry guys lol
#1276 [18:50] <jeremiyah244> Same message
#1277 [18:50] <Lutzee> follow VoxelHeads instructions Stone526
#1278 [18:50] <Stone526> okay
#1279 [18:50] * Lutzee nudges DiskDaemon
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#1280 [18:51] <Lutzee> ?? mac/gatekeeper/documentation
#1281 [18:51] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper/documentation: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
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#1283 [18:51] <Lutzee> More information on gatekeeper is listed there jeremiyah244 ^
#1284 [18:52] <Destro329> Hello just right now my minecraft sound stoped working and i deleted the .minecraft folder and reinstalled the game but still no sound anyone know what might be happening
#1285 [18:53] <Stone526> @VoxelHead http://pastebin.com/p62PgXGN
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#1288 [18:55] <Stone526> See the issue?
#1289 [18:55] <Lutzee> Stone526: can you find the service tag of your PC, should be printed on it somewhere
#1290 [18:56] <Stone526> its a dell xps 410... that what youre looking for?
#1291 [18:56] <Lutzee> Thats enough
#1292 [18:56] <Stone526> k
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#1294 [18:58] <Lutzee> Stone526: have you ever changed the graphics card in it?
#1295 [18:58] <Stone526> yep, took a shit on me about 3 years ago
#1296 [18:59] <Lutzee> Stone526: 64bit windows or 32bit?
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#1298 [19:00] <Stone526> umm not sure i think it might be 32
#1299 [19:01] <Stone526> I purchased the computer in 05 and havent upgraded any of the systems except for the video card and the ram
#1300 [19:01] <Lutzee> ugh ._.
#1301 [19:01] <Stone526> haha i know, its an oldie
#1302 [19:01] <Lutzee> Your video drivers match those on the nvidia website..
#1303 [19:02] <Stone526> thats weird, i just opened up the driver out of programs and had it search for drivers and it didnt find any
#1304 [19:02] <Lutzee> the windows driver update does not normally grab the latest drives
#1305 [19:02] <Lutzee> Well rarely close to never
#1306 [19:02] <Stone526> oh well look at that
#1307 [19:02] <Stone526> where does it tell you which nvidia i have?
#1308 [19:03] <Lutzee> NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
#1309 [19:03] <Lutzee> Driver Date/Size: 10/10/2012 21:14:16, 15309160 bytes
#1310 [19:03] <Lutzee> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/win8-win7-winvista-32bit-306.97-whql-driver-uk.html
#1311 [19:03] <Stone526> this should resolve it?
#1312 [19:04] <Lutzee> No.. its the same as the one you have installed ._.
#1313 [19:04] <Lutzee> You do have your minitor plugged into the graphics card right?
#1314 [19:04] <Stone526> lol yeah of course
#1315 [19:05] <Stone526> i had to remove the old one when i got this one
#1316 [19:05] <Lutzee> Stone526: you can try reinstalling the drivers ofcourse
#1317 [19:05] <Stone526> so install what you just sent me?
#1318 [19:05] <Lutzee> yes
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#1320 [19:05] <Stone526> okay ill try that
#1321 [19:06] <nontoxic> Trying the demo online and I keep getting a crash message. Updated Java but it doesn't seem to work.
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#1324 [19:10] <Stone526> lutzee have to restart my comp, thank you for your help
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#1326 [19:11] <Paul> I had the download link sent to the wrong e-mail address. How can I have it resent to the correct one?
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#1328 [19:14] <Paul> is there anyone here who can help?
#1329 [19:19] <NinjaKirby> There's probably an official Help article for this situation Paul, let me have a look
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#1331 [19:19] <nivlacmon> hey people
#1332 [19:20] <NinjaKirby> Well, maybe there isn't.
#1333 [19:21] <nivlacmon> anyone know if i but minecraft will it fix the "hs_err_pid" error?
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#1336 [19:28] <Lutzee> nivlacmon: copy the contents of that file can paste it on pastebin.com press submit then copy the link here
#1337 [19:30] <nivlacmon> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000084c1, pid=768, tid=1532 # # JRE version: 7.0_09-b05 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (23.5-b02 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C 0x000084c1 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows # # If you would like to submit a bug
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#1339 [19:30] <nivlacmon> thanks lutzee!
#1340 [19:30] <nivlacmon> finally some help
#1341 [19:31] <Lutzee> >.>
#1342 [19:31] <nivlacmon> :P
#1343 [19:31] <Lutzee> ?? pastebin
#1344 [19:31] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1345 [19:31] <nivlacmon> yep
#1346 [19:31] <nivlacmon> im a computer noob
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#1348 [19:31] <nivlacmon> so what do i do?
#1349 [19:31] <tt> i can't open the demo
#1350 [19:31] <Lutzee> .. go there and paste the log there not here, its very unreadable
#1351 [19:31] <nivlacmon> k will do
#1352 [19:32] <nivlacmon> http://pastebin.com/AptfCCq9
#1353 [19:33] <nivlacmon> woah
#1354 [19:33] <nivlacmon> k so i just hit the force update button?
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#1356 [19:33] <Lutzee> um..
#1357 [19:34] <nivlacmon> what
#1358 [19:34] <tt> i want to try the demo before i buy the game and when i hit download nothing happens
#1359 [19:34] <Lutzee> tt: minecraft.net/demo
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#1361 [19:35] <tt> is that web address to enter for the d.load?
#1362 [19:35] <Lutzee> no
#1363 [19:35] <Lutzee> ?? demo
#1364 [19:35] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
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#1368 [19:37] <BaalAdvocate> While trying to log in to minecraft, it no longer recognizes me as premium. Tried migrating the account to the new site, but it stills says I'm not premium
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#1370 [19:40] <tt> when i hit the demo download the square on the screen is blank and there is only a small white box in the upper left corner of the square w/ an x in it
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#1372 [19:43] <tt> i can't open the demo, the square is blank
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#1375 [19:54] <Mikey> I cannot connect to minecraft.net by using the launcher, but I can on the minecraft website. I suspect it may have something to do with me reinstalling java. Any help?
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#1379 [19:56] <tt> i can't open the demo. the screen has a blank squre w/ a very smallwhite square in the upper left corner with an x
#1380 [19:56] <benneya> I can't place bricks when I right click anymore- only break them- please advise
#1381 [19:57] <Young_Explicit> When i connect to a server im hosting or one with hamachi i get this Failed to verify username! [internal error java.net.ConnectException: connect: Address is invalid on local machine, or port is not valid on remote machine
#1382 [19:57] <VoxelHead> Young_Explicit - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#1383 [19:57] <Lutzee> ^ ignore that
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#1385 [19:57] <Lutzee> !< login
#1386 [19:57] <Lutzee> ??< login
#1387 [19:57] <Young_Explicit> Can someone help me?
#1388 [19:57] <Lutzee> Young_Explicit: what do you see when you go here http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test
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#1390 [19:58] <NinjaKirby> benneya: Do you even briefly see the block placed, and then self-removed?
#1391 [19:58] <Young_Explicit> Unable to connect to the proxy server
#1392 [19:58] <benneya> NO the block never places at all
#1393 [19:58] <benneya> I have tried to restart my computer and updated my Mac software
#1394 [19:58] <Lutzee> ??> Young_Explicit win/hosts
#1395 [19:58] <VoxelHead> Young_Explicit: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1396 [19:58] <VoxelHead> Young_Explicit: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1397 [19:58] <NinjaKirby> benneya: Strange indeed, is this single player as well?
#1398 [19:59] <tt> demo help please
#1399 [19:59] <benneya> yes, single only
#1400 [19:59] <BaalAdvocate> Bought Minecraft back in 2010; tried reinstalling the game today after a few month break; it says I am no longer a premium user, and wants me to buy the game. The official help page, isn't helpful. Any ideaS?
#1401 [19:59] <Lutzee> BaalAdvocate: where did you purchase the game from initially?
#1402 [19:59] <NinjaKirby> benneya: Installed any mods?
#1403 [19:59] <BaalAdvocate> minecraft.net
#1404 [20:00] <benneya> no
#1405 [20:00] <Young_Explicit> Wth i cant connect to any webpage it says that unable to connect to the proxy
#1406 [20:00] <Lutzee> BaalAdvocate: read this
#1407 [20:00] <Lutzee> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
#1408 [20:00] <benneya> it works when playing on other computers, so it must be a setting on my main computer?
#1409 [20:01] <Mikey> I'm going to try my question again. I cannot connect to MC using the launcher, but I can using the browser version. What is going on?
#1410 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> benneya: Could be Java I guess... strange thing to hiccup on though, especially if MC doesn't crash at all.
#1411 [20:01] <Lutzee> wait... unable to connect to the proxy? Sounds like something is trying to connect too well.. a bad proxy
#1412 [20:01] <benneya> so should I update Java?
#1413 [20:01] <Young_Explicit> how do i fix my internet?
#1414 [20:01] <Lutzee> NinjaKirby: benneya is on a mac
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#1416 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> benneya: I'm quite stumped to be honest, never seen this problem before, especially in SSP.
#1417 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> Lutzee: I assume this means something which I'm unaware of.
#1418 [20:02] <Lutzee> NinjaKirby: macs dont have a general "right click"
#1419 [20:02] <BaalAdvocate> I read that earlier; the account was premium for years before this happened (besides, I think almost three years is a tad old for a payment dispute)
#1420 [20:02] <benneya> i am using an external mouse
#1421 [20:02] <Young_Explicit> I can get google open and search but when i open a website it says that
#1422 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> Lutzee: lol, seriously, I thought that was an old joke about earlier models, but okay.
#1423 [20:02] <Lutzee> BaalAdvocate: follow the if none of the above bit
#1424 [20:03] <BaalAdvocate> kk
#1425 [20:03] <NinjaKirby> benneya: In that case, you could try re-assigning the Block place command in the key configuration options.
#1426 [20:03] <benneya> how to do that?
#1427 [20:04] <NinjaKirby> benneya: Erm, after logging in, go Settings, Keyboard Configuration, and remap it. I haven't played MC for weeks now, can't remember the exact directions.
#1428 [20:05] <benneya> okay- thanks. any other ideas?>
#1429 [20:05] <NinjaKirby> Lutzee: I presume that's the ideal course of action.
#1430 [20:05] <Lutzee> I would ask the same
#1431 [20:05] <Mikey> Can someone please attempt to assist me?
#1432 [20:05] <NinjaKirby> benneya: Hmmm O_o I'm all out
#1433 [20:05] <benneya> short of reinstalling the game, I guess?
#1434 [20:06] <NinjaKirby> benneya: Guess so, Force Update I suppose, but the game is otherwise completely stable and working, so shouldn't need to...
#1435 [20:07] <benneya> should I try a force update if the Java and reassigning blocks fails?
#1436 [20:07] <NinjaKirby> No harm in trying, if the Mouse remap fails. Shouldn't upset anything else.
#1437 [20:08] <benneya> is this easy to do? sorry, I am new!
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#1440 [20:09] <NinjaKirby> Not too knarley? ^^;;
#1441 [20:09] <Coolck11> my server i made only works in my house how can i make it work everywhere
#1442 [20:09] <benneya> tutorial somewhere? basic one?
#1443 [20:10] <Coolck11> idk
#1444 [20:10] <NinjaKirby> It's just, envisaging the MC Game is Pseudo-Code, I can't percieve it being Java or MC game files at fault.
#1445 [20:10] <Coolck11> i looked
#1446 [20:10] <Coolck11> ?
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#1448 [20:10] <Coolck11> how can i make my server work out of my house????
#1449 [20:10] <NinjaKirby> I bet the Minecraft Wiki has some articles covering it, benneya.
#1450 [20:11] <benneya> okay, well thanks!
#1451 [20:11] <Coolck11> thanks for noth
#1452 [20:11] <Mikey> Are me messages being sent, or am I being ignored? Nevermind, I'll try once more. I cannot connect to minecraft via the launcher, but I can using the browser version. Is this a Java thing or what?
#1453 [20:11] <NinjaKirby> Coolck11, you'll need to configure some LAN settings
#1454 [20:11] <Coolck11> what??
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#1457 [20:12] <NinjaKirby> The only thing to configure (if you have a running MC server), is Router Port Forwarding, to allow people on the Internet to connect to it.
#1458 [20:12] <Coolck11> how do i do that?
#1459 [20:12] <NinjaKirby> Oh, and making Firewall allowances.
#1460 [20:12] <Coolck11> how do i do THt??
#1461 [20:13] <NinjaKirby> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server#Connect_to_the_Minecraft_server
#1462 [20:13] <NinjaKirby> This covers it pretty well.
#1463 [20:13] <Coolck11> thanks
#1464 [20:14] <Mikey> Jesus Christ, I've been Googling this for hours, can someone at least acknowledge the sight of my question?
#1465 [20:14] <NinjaKirby> I'm going to scroll up Mikey, and read it, because I missed it with everyone else.
#1466 [20:14] <Mikey> Even a hint in the right direction would be useful.
#1467 [20:15] <NinjaKirby> Browser works, Executable doesn't.
#1468 [20:16] <Mikey> Aye. The executeable isn't gray or anything like most of the people with the issue I've googled. It's just when I get login it will not connect.
#1469 [20:16] <Mikey> hit login*
#1470 [20:16] <Mikey> This happened after I reinstalled Java as well.
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#1472 [20:17] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, User/Pass is fine, DNS I guess must be fine.
#1473 [20:17] <Lutzee> Its probably antivirus
#1474 [20:17] <NinjaKirby> It's cliché, but have you disabled... yeah that
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#1476 [20:18] <Mikey> I have disabled both antivirus AND firewall.
#1477 [20:18] <Lutzee> what antivirus is it?
#1478 [20:18] <Mikey> And what's weird as it works fine with the browser.
#1479 [20:18] <Mikey> AVG.
#1480 [20:18] * Lutzee points at linkscanner
#1480 [20:19] <NinjaKirby> Interesting the Browser circumvents it.
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#1482 [20:20] <Mikey> Also, AVG is disabled so linkscanner wouldn't be running.
#1483 [20:20] <Lutzee> Um you are mistaken
#1484 [20:20] <Mikey> I am honestly stumped. I've tried both 64 and 32 bit java, I've restarted, reinstalled MC. Everything.
#1485 [20:21] <NinjaKirby> The Legend of AVG Deception
#1486 [20:21] <Lutzee> Disable the link scanner... even with AVG "disabled" it still runs..
#1487 [20:21] <Mikey> I am? Linkscanner still runs?
#1488 [20:21] <Lutzee> AVG is um... nasty
#1489 [20:21] <Mikey> Okay, let me try. :D
#1490 [20:22] <Mikey> Slightly off-topic, but what anti-virus would you recommend I use instead to prevent further conflicts with MC?
#1491 [20:22] <Lutzee> Microsoft security essentials
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#1493 [20:23] <NinjaKirby> I'm a fanatic of ESET Smart Security v5, which has never given me trouble, but does have a track record of similar issues tbh.
#1494 [20:24] <NinjaKirby> I think it costs a bit more then other competitors too...
#1495 [20:24] <Lutzee> Its known that ESET can cause major issues, but atm no one has the accessibility to reproduce it
#1496 [20:24] <NinjaKirby> Bet it's something weird, like Chipset based.
#1497 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> I wonder how Coolck11 is getting on.
#1498 [20:26] <Mikey> Nah, wasn't the linkscanner D:
#1499 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> I wish I could say Run As Admin solves everything, but I don't think it ever applies to MC.
#1500 [20:28] <Mikey> I honestly think its something with Java, due to the fact that it worked today, until i installed java 64 bit
#1501 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> They aren't installed simultaneously are they? ^^;;
#1502 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> Apparently it's possible.
#1503 [20:29] <Mikey> When I go to the java control panel only 1 java version shows, is there another way to check?
#1504 [20:30] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, I suppose if you have a Java folder in both "Program Files" and the "x86" version with lots of stuff in it, could be tell-tale. I'm not sure how to properly check.
#1505 [20:30] <NinjaKirby> Would you end up with two Java environment variables, wat.
#1506 [20:31] <Mikey> alright so the one in program files has jre7, the one in program files x86 has jre6 and jre 7
#1507 [20:31] <NinjaKirby> They empty looking folders, or busy with files? XD
#1508 [20:32] <Mikey> All busy.
#1509 [20:32] <NinjaKirby> Ah, I used to have JRE6 32bit, removed and installed JRE7 64bit. I have both folders, but the 32bit folder is literally empty, no operational files.
#1510 [20:33] <NinjaKirby> So, sounds like you could have two installed... maybe :3
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#1512 [20:33] <Mikey> Should I just delete all my java files, and reinstal?
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#1514 [20:34] <NinjaKirby> I'd personally try that route. Using any available Uninstall wizards (as opposed to deleting folders outright, bad idea).
#1515 [20:34] <Mikey> can i use ccleaner for java
#1516 [20:34] <NinjaKirby> I hear great things about ccleaner, but never used it, thus I'm not sure.
#1517 [20:35] <Lutzee> hmm
#1518 [20:35] <Lutzee> ?? win/javara
#1519 [20:35] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1520 [20:35] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#1521 [20:35] <NinjaKirby> Godlike, Lutzee
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#1523 [20:38] <NinjaKirby> I see you have mastered the Cloning Technique of the Ninja Arts
#1524 [20:39] <Mikey_> Wait what? xD
#1525 [20:39] <NinjaKirby> lol, ignore me~
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#1527 [20:39] <Mikey_> Oh my browser asploded on me.
#1528 [20:39] <NinjaKirby> Lawdie.
#1529 [20:40] <NinjaKirby> The only reason I appear to have the 32bit folder, is due to an empty remnant Minecraft folder. Erasing this sucka.
#1530 [20:41] <Mikey_> Well darn, I unstalled all my javas, reinstalled and it still doesnt work
#1531 [20:41] <Lutzee> Attempt to remove AVG and add a better AV..
#1532 [20:41] <NinjaKirby> Wow, they removed fast, guess I'm biased over my experience though.
#1533 [20:42] <Mikey_> Ccleaner does wonders.
#1534 [20:42] <Mikey_> Perhaps if I try Java version 6?
#1535 [20:43] <NinjaKirby> I think the stability of JRE7 with Mincebeef isn't usually a concern anymore.
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#1537 [20:43] <NinjaKirby> But I guess ya could.
#1538 [20:44] <Mikey_> The thing is it was JUST working a few hours ago.
#1539 [20:45] <Mikey_> LOL, yeah Java 6 works.
#1540 [20:45] <NinjaKirby> inb4 System Restore
#1541 [20:45] <Mikey_> So it was Java 7 that was doing this.
#1542 [20:45] <NinjaKirby> Wow, intredasting
#1543 [20:45] <Lutzee> I actually think it is down to permissions set in AVG
#1544 [20:45] <Lutzee> the existing permissions for jre6 survived
#1545 [20:46] <Mikey_> Can I adjust persmissions in AVG for jre7?
#1546 [20:46] <NinjaKirby> How would the Browser work under JRE7?
#1547 [20:46] <NinjaKirby> Ignore my question.
#1548 [20:46] <NinjaKirby> :3
#1549 [20:47] <Mikey_> So does using it under firefox allow AVG to pass it or something?
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#1551 [20:47] <NinjaKirby> Sounds like a dodgy backdoor
#1552 [20:48] <Mikey_> Backdoor trojan? o.o
#1553 [20:48] <NinjaKirby> I didn't mean it in that context though ^^;; More an analogy, or something
#1554 [20:48] <Lutzee> Awh yeahh, dota2 for free
#1555 [20:49] <Mikey_> Ha ha my friend gifted me dota 2 a few days ago.
#1556 [20:49] <NinjaKirby> Enjoy your levelling.
#1557 [20:49] <micha> you are ignorant if you think that micha is a dodgy backdoor I want to buy your game but the site is a mess and I am unable to purchase
#1558 [20:49] <NinjaKirby> lolwat, I realise I'm not using names to direct my messages, but I was not focusing them at you, rest assured.
#1559 [20:49] <Lutzee> micha: we were talking before you arrived.
#1560 [20:50] <NinjaKirby> Also, I wish it was my game, I'd be rich.
#1561 [20:50] <Mikey_> Well, thank you all for the help. I hope we get to talk again someday. :D
#1562 [20:50] <NinjaKirby> Aye, take care Mikey :)
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#1564 [20:51] <micha> so how do I get to purchase the game??
#1565 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> By going to: http://minecraft.net/ and clicking on "Buy Game"
#1566 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> You'll then be taken to a mojang account setup page
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#1568 [20:53] <micha> yes and you get all the way to buy and then it is all on top of each other
#1569 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> All on top of each other?
#1570 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> What browser are you viewing this in? Have you tried viewing it with another browser?
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#1573 [20:54] <Young_Explicit> Help!
#1574 [20:54] <NinjaKirby> What's up Young_Explicit :)
#1575 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> What can we help you with?
#1576 [20:55] <micha> ok how do I change browsers I have google crome and internetexplorer
#1577 [20:55] <Young_Explicit> Failed to verify username! [internal error java.net.ConnectException: connect: Address is invalid on local machine, or port is not valid on remote machine] on my server i join or hamachi even if i portforward the 25565 cause it was working about a few days ago
#1578 [20:55] <VoxelHead> Young_Explicit - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#1579 [20:55] <NinjaKirby> I'm going to take my leave. Getting late, and I have an adventure in the morning to uptake. Nights.
#1580 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Take care NinjaKirby
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#1582 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> micha - Try Firefox. http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/
#1583 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Chrome would also most likely work.
#1584 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Young_Explicit - Ensure that you're running the right version of the server?
#1585 [20:57] <Young_Explicit> Yeah it was working a few with the latest beta build of bukkit but today me and my friend want to play hack/mine and i installed the mod right and stuff and it says that
#1586 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Got a pastebin of your server.log that we can look at?
#1587 [20:58] <Young_Explicit> ok but someone on here told me to go herehttp://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test and it says Bad login
#1588 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Just means that your computer can communicate to the session server. "Bad login" is an expected result.
#1589 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> There is no Meep user, with a "test" session ID. It'll return Bad login
#1590 [20:59] <Young_Explicit> why is it doing that i can connect to my primary server wich is hosted by nfo and other servers just not any ran off my pc
#1591 [21:00] <micha> same as before
#1592 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> If you pastebin your server.log, I could have some more information to work with, Young_Explicit.
#1593 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> ?? pastebin
#1594 [21:00] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1595 [21:00] <Young_Explicit> grey wich one the primary wich im trying to host?
#1596 [21:00] <Young_Explicit> or the hack/mine
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#1598 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> The one that's experiencing the issue
#1599 [21:00] <viveleroi> is there a way to convert a hardcore map to survival
#1600 [21:01] <Young_Explicit> they are both doing it
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#1602 [21:01] <Young_Explicit> ok the hack/mine one doesnt have a server.log, well it does but its empty
#1603 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> viveleroi - Don't beleive so
#1604 [21:02] <Lutzee> GreyVulpine: there is by editing the level.dat using NBTedit :)
#1605 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Young_Explicit - Could I see a server log of thet other one?
#1606 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Lutzee - Oh, right..
#1607 [21:03] <Young_Explicit> the bukkit one?
#1608 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> viveleroi - Oh, looks like the TMI mod might be able to change the gamemode for you: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/140684-1445-toomanyitems-in-game-invedit-nov-19-save-update/
#1609 [21:04] <Lutzee> GreyVulpine: "hardcore" is another setting asside from gamemode
#1610 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> Young_Explicit - The one(s) that are hosted off your PC that you're experiencing troubles with.
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#1612 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Lutzee - Bah
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#1615 [21:06] <micha> still can not buy the game
#1616 [21:07] <viveleroi> so does anyone know if TMI will do it for sure?
#1617 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Works fine for me, across multiple browsers
#1618 [21:07] <Lutzee> micha: how big is your monitor btw?
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#1620 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> micha - Care to give us a screenshot of what you're looking at? Host it at a site like http://www/imgur.com
#1621 [21:08] <Lutzee> viveleroi: not really, its best to edit the level.dat with nbtedit
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#1623 [21:08] <micha> no idea but just bought the thing its a Samsong 8 mb
#1624 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> A what?
#1625 [21:09] <Young_Explicit> http://pastie.org/5409598
#1626 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Young_Explicit - You already have a server running on port 25565
#1627 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> "[WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Address already in use: JVM_Bind"
#1628 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> You can't have multiple minecraft servers running, listening off of one port. you'll need to configure them to bind to different ports.
#1629 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> You can do this by editing server.properties, with the port= argument
#1630 [21:11] <Young_Explicit> no no no theres only 1 open then i go to task manager and its only 1 java and its the server
#1631 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Then there's something else that's listening on port 25565 as well
#1632 [21:12] <Young_Explicit> how do i find out what that program is so i can delete it
#1633 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Running windows, I take it?
#1634 [21:12] <Lutzee> Windows might think the port is bound if an application doesn't close cleanly maybe? Young_Explicit restart your pc
#1635 [21:12] <viveleroi> Any NBT editing tools for mac? I don't run Windows
#1636 [21:13] <Lutzee> viveleroi: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/63854-neinedit-nbt-editor-for-mac-os-x/
#1637 [21:13] <viveleroi> nvm, I may have one
#1638 [21:13] <viveleroi> the download links on that go to a broken site
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#1640 [21:15] <Lutzee> er
#1641 [21:16] <Lutzee> viveleroi: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/840677-nbtexplorer-nbt-editor-for-windows-and-mac/
#1642 [21:16] <Young_Explicit> but guys literely i just restored to windows 8 update 10 mins ago
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#1644 [21:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> that was a mistake
#1645 [21:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> quickly, upgrade to windows 7
#1646 [21:19] <Young_Explicit> why would i do that windows 8 has gave me fantastic performance
#1647 [21:20] <viveleroi> Lutzee: seems to work, thanks!
#1648 [21:20] <Lutzee> viveleroi: the entry you need to change is hardcore and set its value to 0
#1649 [21:20] <viveleroi> got it, am checking now
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#1651 [21:22] <Young_Explicit> Anyone/
#1652 [21:22] <Young_Explicit> Anyone/
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#1654 [21:24] <Jeffrey> does anyone know how to register a nick?
#1655 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Yes, with /msg nickserv REGISTER password email
#1656 [21:24] <Young_Explicit> ..
#1657 [21:26] <Jeffrey> ty
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#1660 [21:36] <Young_Explicit> Can someone please help me with my issue?
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#1662 [21:38] <Young_Explicit> Disconnecting Young_Explicit [/127.0.0.1:56687]: Failed to verify username! [internal error java.net.ConnectException: connect: Address is invalid on local machine, or port is not valid on remote machine]
#1663 [21:38] <VoxelHead> Young_Explicit - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
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#1667 [21:44] <omfglol> Anyone know why I'm unable to buy minecraft with paypal?
#1668 [21:44] <omfglol> I get this error msg from paypal, it's very cryptic
#1669 [21:44] <omfglol> Return to merchant and try a different payment method
#1670 [21:44] <omfglol> We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available).
#1671 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> What payment method are you using?
#1672 [21:45] <omfglol> paying by debit card linked to my paypal account
#1673 [21:45] <omfglol> I can't use my debit card the old fashioned way because of verified by visa scum
#1674 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> You may need to call up your bank. See if they're holding back payment. We sometimes see banks stop payment due to anti-fraud measures in place for international transactions
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#1676 [21:46] <omfglol> Alrighty, thanks
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#1680 [21:50] <omfglol> I have to say though, this has been extremely annoying
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#1682 [21:50] <omfglol> I think I spent about an hour tonight trying different methods of purchase
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#1693 [23:12] <Andrio> Can I play on Minecraft 1.4.4 servers with a version 1.4.5 client?
#1694 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Should be able to.
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#1696 [23:20] <Derezz> Why is it that everytime I try and update my minecraft, it says "Fatal error occurred (4): Users/mchughi/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar"?
#1697 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Go to: Users/mchughi/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin
#1698 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Delete the bin folder, then relogin
#1699 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, the minecraft.jar got corrupted.
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#1702 [23:22] <Derezz> I've tried. That, deleting the whole minecraft folder, reinstalling the game and trying to update with no folder, getting a new .jar, etc.
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#1704 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Deleting the minecraft folder should have worked.
#1705 [23:23] <Derezz> I have absolutely no idea what could be causing this
#1706 [23:23] <Derezz> It didn't
#1707 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Could you try it again, this time, delete the minecraft folder, and redownload the launcher as well?
#1708 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're using the latest launcher, launching it directly
#1709 [23:24] <Derezz> Worth a shot I guess
#1710 [23:25] <Derezz> I suppose emptying the trash would help?
#1711 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Don't think that matters
#1712 [23:28] <Derezz> Same error message. Now, when I don't update it has saves from a free version my friend gave me and also texturepacks from that version as well. Could that be a factor?
#1713 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> "free versions" are more than likely, a pirated version of the game.
#1714 [23:28] <Derezz> That I knew
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#1716 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> You're absolutely sure you're accessing the right minecraft folder?
#1717 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> On later mac versions, the library folder in your user profile location is hidden by default.
#1718 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> There's multiple Library folders spread across the Mac OS.
#1719 [23:29] <Derezz> I'm running OS Lion
#1720 [23:30] <Derezz> Where the hell would the hidden files be?
#1721 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> That's a mac version that hides the Library folder by default.
#1722 [23:30] <Derezz> How do I gain access to it then??
#1723 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Could you do something for me. Hit your Command+shift+g keys to bring up the "Go To Folder" prompt
#1724 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> In the Go to Folder Prompt, type in exactly: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#1725 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> When you press enter, what do you see?
#1726 [23:31] <Derezz> ....the folder that minecraftSP created
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#1728 [23:31] <Derezz> holy shit this OS is sneaky
#1729 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes it is
#1730 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Delete the bin folder from there, please
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#1732 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Then rerun the legit version of minecraft
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#1735 [23:33] <Derezz> GV what would I have done without you?
#1736 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> I assume that was a success?
#1737 [23:34] <Derezz> You assume correctly sir
#1738 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> If I wasn't here, somebody else would've guided you on the same path. It's not an uncommon issue for macs.
#1739 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> I'm glad you've got it fixed
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#1741 [23:36] <Young_Explicit> Can someone help me with my issue?
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