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#11 [00:44] <Rikairchy> nou
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#18 [01:16] <kiugetski> ?
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#21 [01:18] <kiugetski> !check qcmc.zapto.org
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#25 [01:24] <kiugetski> good
#26 [01:24] <kiugetski> finally seted up my iphone and ipad to connect to my server
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#38 [02:14] <LordBungholio> hi
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#40 [02:15] <jeff_> hello
#41 [02:15] <jeff_> anyone there?
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#43 [02:16] <jeff_> hello/
#44 [02:16] <LordBungholio> i have problems using this minecraft account with xlauncher and wom when i try to load it with launcherx it just brings singleplayer world pls help
#45 [02:16] <LordBungholio> any help
#46 [02:16] <LordBungholio> jeff you there
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#48 [02:16] <jeff_> yea im hrere
#49 [02:16] <LordBungholio> any help?
#50 [02:16] <jeff_> what is your problem/
#51 [02:17] <LordBungholio> look at the 2nd one from the to that i posted
#52 [02:17] <jeff_> kk wait
#53 [02:17] <LordBungholio> just after hi
#54 [02:17] <jeff_> um get the official launcher
#55 [02:17] <jeff_> from the site
#56 [02:17] <LordBungholio> which one wom
#57 [02:17] <LordBungholio> or xwom
#58 [02:18] <jeff_> just goto minecraft.net
#59 [02:18] <LordBungholio> im there
#60 [02:18] <jeff_> then under buy now
#61 [02:19] <jeff_> its says play minecraft
#62 [02:19] <jeff_> click download
#63 [02:19] <LordBungholio> play the demo?
#64 [02:19] <jeff_> no
#65 [02:19] <jeff_> download
#66 [02:19] <jeff_> k?
#67 [02:19] <LordBungholio> im talking about wom for classic minecraft
#68 [02:20] <DiskDaemon> Sorry, neither wom or classic are dealt with here
#69 [02:20] <jeff_> diskdaemon
#70 [02:20] <LordBungholio> oh
#71 [02:20] <LordBungholio> oh
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#73 [02:20] <jeff_> can u help me?
#74 [02:20] <jeff_> diskdaemon
#75 [02:20] <DiskDaemon> what with?
#76 [02:21] <jeff_> i bought an account
#77 [02:21] <DiskDaemon> nice one
#78 [02:21] <jeff_> but i waited a while
#79 [02:21] <jeff_> like 5 hours now
#80 [02:21] <jeff_> but it still says that i am not premium
#81 [02:22] <DiskDaemon> ?? mc.net/paid
#82 [02:22] <VoxelHead> mc.net/paid: There is a very simple way to see whether Mojang believes your account is paid for or not. Log in at https://account.mojang.com/me and look for a 'My Games' heading. If you don't see Minecraft listed there, nor in My Gift Codes, then Mojang has not received your monies.
#83 [02:23] <jeff_> it says that i didnt get it yet
#84 [02:23] <DiskDaemon> Then, your attempt to pay as failed for some reason. Contact your bank.
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#86 [02:24] <jeff_> D:
#87 [02:24] <DiskDaemon> What did you attempt to pay with?
#88 [02:24] <jeff_> but i have the receipt
#89 [02:24] <jeff_> paypal
#90 [02:24] <DiskDaemon> I have many declined receipts sitting at home too
#91 [02:24] <jeff_> wut?????????
#92 [02:24] <DiskDaemon> A receipt only indicates the attempt, not the success
#93 [02:24] <DiskDaemon> What did you attempt to pay with?
#94 [02:25] <jeff_> paypal
#95 [02:25] <DiskDaemon> What dows paypal show in regard to the transaction?
#96 [02:26] <jeff_> wait
#97 [02:26] <jeff_> it says that there is net -19.95 net gross
#98 [02:27] <DiskDaemon> This article seems to be most relevant for you http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#99 [02:27] <jeff_> i already read it
#100 [02:27] <DiskDaemon> Then what else would you like us to help you with?
#101 [02:28] <jeff_> nvm
#102 [02:28] <jeff_> ill just live without it
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#104 [02:28] <jeff_> sigh 20 bucks waited
#105 [02:28] <jeff_> wasted
#106 [02:29] <kiugetski> ...
#107 [02:29] <jeff_> goodbye
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#109 [02:29] <DiskDaemon> What does your mojang account have to ... dammit
#110 [02:30] <Grim_Reaper> lol
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#131 [04:19] <kamyk> hello?
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#147 [04:41] <jackalope> I JUST BOUGHT MINECRAFT 1.4.5
#148 [04:41] <Grim_Reaper> ok o.o
#149 [04:42] <jackalope> IT FREEZES WHEN I TRY TO DOWNLOAD IT
#150 [04:42] <Grim_Reaper> the exe or the launcher?
#151 [04:42] <jackalope> Sorry man, it's fucking late..
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#154 [04:43] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#155 [04:43] <jackalope> Download freezes at launcher
#156 [04:44] <jackalope> When I click update AND dont update...
#157 [04:44] <jackalope> I've tried everything.
#158 [04:44] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried running the launcher as Admin/
#159 [04:44] <Grim_Reaper> Does it freeze at a particular place when trying to download
#160 [04:44] <jackalope> ...everything that I could find on forums/youtube/google search
#161 [04:45] <Grim_Reaper> I presume you've tried disabling firewall/anti virus?
#162 [04:45] <jackalope> ya, when I click UPDATE it freeezes at about the 1/8th mark
#163 [04:45] <jackalope> ya, I tried that
#164 [04:45] <Grim_Reaper> Do you know what file it freezes on?
#165 [04:45] <jackalope> updated java too
#166 [04:45] <Grim_Reaper> Also what operating system are you running?
#167 [04:46] <jackalope> Stops at "Downloading Packages"
#168 [04:46] <jackalope> Windows 7
#169 [04:47] <jackalope> It freezes at "Download Complete" when I skip the update.
#170 [04:47] <Grim_Reaper> ?? win/.minecraft
#171 [04:47] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#172 [04:48] <Grim_Reaper> Try deleting any files in the .minecraft folder (backup anything if you do.. have anything)
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#174 [04:49] <jackalope> Aight, did it...
#175 [04:49] <Grim_Reaper> Ok see if things download now
#176 [04:50] <jackalope> Same thing...
#177 [04:50] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm..
#178 [04:51] <Grim_Reaper> Are you sure.. theres nothing blocking the download?
#179 [04:51] <Grim_Reaper> Like maybe router settings or something
#180 [04:51] <jackalope> I have the crappiest internet connection in the world...could that affect it?
#181 [04:52] <Grim_Reaper> Possibly.. But still should download
#182 [04:52] <jackalope> I couldn't tell ya...I'm not very savy with computers/routers or anything of the sort.
#183 [04:52] <Grim_Reaper> I would suggest going to http://help.mojang.com and sending them an email
#184 [04:52] <Grim_Reaper> Im not too sure what else to suggest sadly =\
#185 [04:53] <jackalope> That's fine, thanks anyways!
#186 [04:53] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry
#187 [04:54] <Smanly> how did i get here i am not good with computer
#188 [04:54] <jackalope> No prob. I'm sure I'll eventually figure it out.
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#190 [04:55] <TheNoodle> Smanly, your computer will run faster if you remove your pants.
#191 [04:55] <Smanly> im am not were pants?
#192 [04:55] <TheNoodle> lol.
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#194 [04:58] <Smanly> wat?
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#196 [05:06] <Grim_Reaper> TheNoodle never wears pants
#197 [05:06] <Smanly> is your computer fast?
#198 [05:07] <TheNoodle> blazing fast.
#199 [05:08] <Morrolan> It's not his *computer* we care about, though.
#200 [05:08] <Smanly> ;D
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#202 [05:08] <jackalope> Im back...
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#204 [05:09] <jackalope> How can I contact someone at Mojang/
#205 [05:09] <jackalope> Mincraft
#206 [05:09] <jackalope> Minecraft*
#207 [05:09] <QunnLord> try joining #minecraft
#208 [05:09] <QunnLord> Is there a datavalue for each stage of crop growth?
#209 [05:09] <Smanly> Yes,
#210 [05:09] <QunnLord> What are they?
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#212 [05:10] <Smanly> jackalope: Do you have a firewall/antivirus?
#213 [05:10] <Smanly> ...k
#214 [05:10] <Smanly> QunnLord: 1-howevermanystagesthereare.
#215 [05:10] <QunnLord> can you send me an example?
#216 [05:10] <QunnLord> using 59
#217 [05:10] <Morrolan> QunnLord: Check the minecraftwiki, should be listed on there.
#218 [05:10] <Morrolan> IIRC it's from 0x01 to 0x0
#219 [05:11] <Morrolan> 0x06*
#220 [05:11] <QunnLord> Well I couldn't find it on the item id's list
#221 [05:11] <QunnLord> I'll check
#222 [05:11] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wheat_Farming#Growth_and_harvesting
#223 [05:11] <Morrolan> 0x07 it is.
#224 [05:11] <Smanly> yap
#225 [05:12] <QunnLord> thank you
#226 [05:12] <Smanly> QunnLord: What are you trying to do?
#227 [05:13] <QunnLord> Trying to use make a quest spawn fully grown crops
#228 [05:13] <QunnLord> but specifically
#229 [05:14] <QunnLord> spawn fully grown crops
#230 [05:14] <Smanly> Trying to use make a quest spawn fully grown crops
#231 [05:14] <Smanly> but specifically spawn fully grown crops? wat
#232 [05:15] <QunnLord> Well, I just want to know how I'd spawn crops that are fully grown. ie using the /i command
#233 [05:16] <Smanly> Hmm, I dont think thats how that works.
#234 [05:16] <TheNoodle> Well, first step is to remove your pants
#235 [05:16] <Smanly> Thats obvious.
#236 [05:16] <Smanly> I assumed his pants were removed.
#237 [05:16] <QunnLord> I don't wear pants
#238 [05:16] <Smanly> Good.
#239 [05:17] <Smanly> did /i 59:7 work?
#240 [05:17] <QunnLord> nope =/
#241 [05:17] <QunnLord> Perhaps it works as if it were an enchantment leve...
#242 [05:17] <Smanly> Only way I know of doing it is using worldedit of similar plugin/program to place it.
#243 [05:18] <QunnLord> Well that's cool
#244 [05:18] <QunnLord> how do you do that??
#245 [05:18] <Smanly> //set 59:7
#246 [05:18] <Smanly> lol
#247 [05:19] <QunnLord> Guess I should Have tried that =/
#248 [05:19] <Morrolan> Don't most Bukkit plugins which override the /i command support damage values?
#249 [05:19] <QunnLord> thanks xD
#250 [05:19] <Smanly> Morrolan: Huh?
#251 [05:19] <Smanly> Oh, yeah.
#252 [05:19] <QunnLord> they do
#253 [05:19] <QunnLord> <item>:<ammount of uses>
#254 [05:19] <Smanly> But you cant have/use certain items like that.
#255 [05:20] <Smanly> QunnLord: Do you not see it in your inv, or did nothing happen when you placed it?
#256 [05:21] <QunnLord> for crops:7 ?
#257 [05:21] <Smanly> Sure.
#258 [05:21] <QunnLord> it spawns the crops as 1st stage
#259 [05:21] <Smanly> Oh.
#260 [05:22] <Morrolan> ??< oldversionlist
#261 [05:22] <Morrolan> ??< oldversionslist
#262 [05:22] <Morrolan> Argh.
#263 [05:22] <Morrolan> *stabs whoever removed v*
#264 [05:23] <Morrolan> ??< outdatedversionslist
#265 [05:23] <Morrolan> ??< outdatedversionlist
#266 [05:23] <Smanly> ?? oldversion
#267 [05:23] <VoxelHead> oldversion: By now there are several ways to downgrade your version of Minecraft. Either use a tool like McNostalgia, use a backup of your own, or download the old Minecraft binaries provided by Mojang. See ?? outdatedversionlist for a list of available binaries.
#268 [05:23] <Smanly> ?
#269 [05:23] <Smanly> What are you looking for?
#270 [05:23] <Smanly> Oh
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#272 [05:26] <Morrolan> The pastebin with links to old MC binaries.
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#274 [05:31] <QunnLord> Have you guys seen the plugin called monsterIRC?
#275 [05:32] <QunnLord> Link an IRC channel to ingame serverchat and allows certain commands to be done from IRC
#276 [05:33] <Smanly> k
#277 [05:34] <TheNoodle> QunnLord, this channel is for assistance with the vanilla minecraft client and server, for bukkit help please go to #bukkit . On a side note, if you choose to connect MonstorIRC to this network please make sure your bot adheres to http://esper.net/bots.php
#278 [05:35] <QunnLord> oh no, was just saying
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#287 [06:08] <Frostic> minecraft.com is down?
#288 [06:08] <Frostic> i cant login it says cant resolve login.minecraft.com
#289 [06:09] <Guest94279> Hi, I have been playing minecraft on my Laptop for a while but now it won't load the actual game page. I log in and then click on Download game but then the actual game page is blank and my computer says that the Java Brinery is not responding ?!?
#290 [06:09] <Andrio> Frostic, minecraft.com?
#291 [06:09] <Andrio> Don't you mean minecraft.net?
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#293 [06:10] <Guest94279> anyone got any ideas? I have downloaded the latest version of Java but its stating the program is not responding and the game play screen is just white ?!?!
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#295 [06:10] <Andrio> Guest94279, does it always do that, or just recently?
#296 [06:11] <Guest94279> just the past few weeks ?!
#297 [06:11] <Frostic> i cant login it says cant resolve login.minecraft.net
#298 [06:11] <Guest94279> my 6 year old Son is Minecraft crazy so he is not happy and I don't know what you have to do because I am not good with this stuff
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#301 [06:12] <Guest94279> can anyone help ?!?
#302 [06:13] <lutzeee> What is the problem?
#303 [06:13] <Andrio> Frostic -> can't resolve login.minecraft.net
#304 [06:13] <Guest94279> when I log my Son into Minecraft the screen just goes white on the game play actual screen and then the computer says the Java BR is not responding ??
#305 [06:14] <Andrio> Guest94279 -> Java freezes on a white screen when they try to play Minecraft in their browser
#306 [06:14] <Guest94279> I have download the latest Java ?! what else can I do do you think ?
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#308 [06:14] <Guest94279> It was working fine until I did the update a few weeks ago since then not working
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#314 [06:18] <Guest94279> THE EXACT MESSAGE IS - JAVA TM PLATFORM SE BINARY IS NOT RESPONDING ........WHAT DOES THIS MEAN ANYONE ?? PLEASE HELP ??
#315 [06:19] <Andrio> You don't need to shout. :(
#316 [06:20] <TheNoodle> But Andrio, he's very far away from you. He needs to shout so that you still get the message.
#317 [06:20] <Guest94279> ok so everyone has great help on not shouting and how your supposed to talk on here....ive never been on here before and just wanted to ask a question but obviously no one can help with that !
#318 [06:21] <TheNoodle> Obviously !
#319 [06:21] <Guest94279> tell you what forget it !
#320 [06:21] <TheNoodle> Okay !
#321 [06:21] <TheNoodle> Have a nice day !
#322 [06:21] <Guest94279> ill get help someone else this site is uselss
#323 [06:21] <Guest94279> fuck you
#324 [06:21] * AuBot kicked Guest94279 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uest94279 :Please keep it civil.)
#325 [06:21] <TheNoodle> :'(
#326 [06:22] <TheNoodle> hmm, probably shouldn't have glossed over the caps part of his message
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#330 [06:34] <hiddenninja> anyone want to help me with this: http://puu.sh/1t0XO ive made it to use 2gb
#331 [06:35] <TheNoodle> pastebin your start command?
#332 [06:37] <lutzeee> Install 64bit java if you can
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#342 [06:53] <Yugnoswam> who asked for pastebin?
#343 [06:53] <hiddenninja> TheNoodle :)
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#345 [06:57] <Yugnoswam> http://pastebin.com/A2vxQ1de
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#347 [06:59] <TheNoodle> Okay, few problems
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#349 [07:00] <Yugnoswam> ok?
#350 [07:00] <TheNoodle> 1) ive made it to use 2gb - that script starts wth 1024M. 2) Which version of java is actually installed?
#351 [07:00] <Yugnoswam> yeah i returned it back to 1GB since giving it more didn't do anything. I tried it up to 8GB.
#352 [07:01] <Yugnoswam> Java 32 bit, the update that came out today. But it was happening with the previous version too.
#353 [07:01] <Yugnoswam> I reinstalled java yesterday
#354 [07:01] <TheNoodle> Install 64 bit java if your computer supports it.
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#356 [07:01] <Yugnoswam> Ok
#357 [07:01] <Yugnoswam> I have a problem with that though
#358 [07:02] <Yugnoswam> 64 bit likes to freeze my PC whenever I play MC.
#359 [07:02] <Predator121> Is your operating system 64bit?
#360 [07:03] <Yugnoswam> yes.
#361 [07:03] <Predator121> It should support it...
#362 [07:03] <Yugnoswam> I know. But for some reason it crashes my PC when minecraft uses it.
#363 [07:03] <Yugnoswam> I can try it if you want.
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#365 [07:04] <Predator121> Hmm.
#366 [07:05] <Yugnoswam> give me a min, ill install 64-bit and try it.
#367 [07:05] <Yugnoswam> I remove all java from my registry yesterday which fixed crashes on 32bit so I may aswel give it a go again
#368 [07:05] <Predator121> You didn't have java 64bit?
#369 [07:05] <Yugnoswam> i have previously.
#370 [07:05] <Yugnoswam> https://secure.join.me/859-849-037 - look
#371 [07:05] <Predator121> Sure.
#372 [07:07] <Yugnoswam> huh
#373 [07:07] <Yugnoswam> ok then lol
#374 [07:07] <Predator121> Soo you are trying to setup a server or run minecraft?
#375 [07:07] <Predator121> Start*
#376 [07:07] <Yugnoswam> ive been running this server for a few months lo
#377 [07:08] <Yugnoswam> hmm, it doesnt appear to have prepared the spawn 100% 1 sec
#378 [07:08] <Predator121> Oh man. My pc lags alot. I use it only for server hosting.
#379 [07:08] <Yugnoswam> lol
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#381 [07:08] <Yugnoswam> i have a fast pc :)
#382 [07:09] <Predator121> Well i use it ONLY for my server :)
#383 [07:09] <Predator121> No lag ingame.
#384 [07:09] <Yugnoswam> where can i get 1.4.2?
#385 [07:10] <Necrodoom> ?? oldversion
#386 [07:10] <VoxelHead> oldversion: By now there are several ways to downgrade your version of Minecraft. Either use a tool like McNostalgia, use a backup of your own, or download the old Minecraft binaries provided by Mojang. See ?? outdatedversionlist for a list of available binaries.
#387 [07:10] <Predator121> Umm.
#388 [07:10] <Predator121> I don't know which is the newest version of minecraft. I host a classic server.
#389 [07:11] <Predator121> And i'm the developer of my server software. :P
#390 [07:11] <Necrodoom> Predator121: 1.4.5
#391 [07:11] <Predator121> Thank you.
#392 [07:11] <Yugnoswam> yeah, craftbukkit is only really stable 1.4.2 atm though
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#394 [07:11] <Necrodoom> erm, not really
#395 [07:12] <Necrodoom> minecraft has major bugs corrupting server on 1.4.2 and 1.4.4
#396 [07:12] <Yugnoswam> runs fine for me.
#397 [07:12] <Necrodoom> Yugnoswam: wait till you get "bad packet ID xx"
#398 [07:12] <Predator121> Maybe Bukkit hasn't published 1.4.5 server software.
#399 [07:13] <Necrodoom> Predator121: wat
#400 [07:13] <Yugnoswam> Necrodoom: I've been running 1.4.2 since the update with no issues server-side.
#401 [07:13] <Yugnoswam> Where are the downloads for older mc versions on mojang>?
#402 [07:13] <Predator121> Maybe there is no bukkit 1.4.5 yet.
#403 [07:13] <Necrodoom> Yugnoswam: well, bukkit forums were swarmed with people having problems from vanilla
#404 [07:14] <Necrodoom> bad packet ID, concurrent exception, etc
#405 [07:14] <Necrodoom> Predator121: bukkit for 1.4.5 exists
#406 [07:14] <Predator121> Ok.
#407 [07:14] <Yugnoswam> lol, well they must of done something wrong.
#408 [07:14] <Yugnoswam> and does it, is it stable?
#409 [07:14] <Predator121> !paid Predator_121
#410 [07:14] <Predator121> Hmm
#411 [07:14] <Predator121> Fail.
#412 [07:14] <Yugnoswam> lol
#413 [07:14] <Predator121> !help
#414 [07:14] <Necrodoom> Yugnoswam: they didnt, the bug was with item frames and maps
#415 [07:14] <Necrodoom> also: ?? outdatedversionlist
#416 [07:14] <Necrodoom> er
#417 [07:14] <Necrodoom> also: ?? outdatedversionlist
#418 [07:14] <Yugnoswam> Necrodoom: Ahh, nobody on the server has either as far as I know lol
#419 [07:15] <Necrodoom> ?? outdatedversionlist
#420 [07:15] <VoxelHead> outdatedversionlist: A list of all Minecraft binary files which are hosted publicly by Mojang can be found here: https://pastebin.com/gwrQrQL9
#421 [07:15] <Yugnoswam> ty
#422 [07:15] <Predator121> !paid Predator_121
#423 [07:15] <Necrodoom> basically id recommend sticking to bukkit 1.4.5
#424 [07:15] <Necrodoom> since they also fix bugs regulary
#425 [07:15] <Necrodoom> instead of an outdated 1.4.2 bukkit build
#426 [07:16] <Necrodoom> for example, offlineplayer exception
#427 [07:16] <Necrodoom> is fixed on 1.4.5
#428 [07:16] <Yugnoswam> yh im upgrading atm
#429 [07:16] <Yugnoswam> cant find the 1.4.5 jar though
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#431 [07:17] <Necrodoom> Yugnoswam: of bukkit?
#432 [07:17] <Yugnoswam> yh
#433 [07:17] <Yugnoswam> i can only find 1.3.2
#434 [07:17] <Necrodoom> http://dl.bukkit.org/downloads/craftbukkit/
#435 [07:18] <Yugnoswam> ty
#436 [07:18] <Necrodoom> dont look at reco build
#437 [07:18] <Necrodoom> get the latest beta
#438 [07:18] <Yugnoswam> right, server has got a new bug...
#439 [07:18] <Necrodoom> being?
#440 [07:18] <Yugnoswam> enter stop command and it reboots.
#441 [07:18] <Yugnoswam> https://secure.join.me/938-114-063
#442 [07:18] <TheNoodle> Sounds like your starting the server in a loop.
#443 [07:18] <Necrodoom> ^
#444 [07:18] <Predator121> Well i'm off. I can only help you with Mc Classic.
#445 [07:19] <Necrodoom> also: holy freaking tabs
#446 [07:19] <Yugnoswam> :p
#447 [07:19] <Necrodoom> 1. too low RAM
#448 [07:19] <Necrodoom> 2. some error with startup script?
#449 [07:19] <Necrodoom> put a space after gc
#450 [07:20] <Necrodoom> 25
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#452 [07:20] <Necrodoom> yep
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#454 [07:21] <Necrodoom> yeah, some error with start.bat of yours
#455 [07:21] <Yugnoswam> if i can remove the loop it should remove the error.
#456 [07:21] <Necrodoom> prevents server from stopping
#457 [07:21] <Yugnoswam> its the bat file craftbukkit provided.
#458 [07:21] <Necrodoom> no, it isnt
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#460 [07:22] <Necrodoom> java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar craftbukkit.jar -o true PAUSE
#461 [07:22] <Necrodoom> PAUSE being on second line
#462 [07:22] <Yugnoswam> nvm
#463 [07:22] <Necrodoom> http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server#Windows
#464 [07:22] <Yugnoswam> there was a space missing.
#465 [07:23] <Yugnoswam> yes?
#466 [07:23] <Necrodoom> ?
#467 [07:24] <Yugnoswam> infinate loop
#468 [07:25] <Necrodoom> cant see any other reason other than a startup bat erro
#469 [07:25] <Necrodoom> that, or your GUI
#470 [07:25] <Necrodoom> no error with bukkit plain startup bat, no GUI
#471 [07:26] <Yugnoswam> ahh well
#472 [07:27] <Yugnoswam> aslong as i do "save-all" i can just click the x lol
#473 [07:27] <Necrodoom> also: commandbook D:
#474 [07:27] <Morrolan> If you take the chance of laded chunks being messed up, yes, you can.
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#476 [07:27] <Morrolan> loaded*
#477 [07:28] <Yugnoswam> well i cant shut the server down can I?
#478 [07:28] <Yugnoswam> infinate loop. If you wanr supply a new bat then id appreciate it...
#479 [07:28] <Necrodoom> what is the GUI you use?
#480 [07:28] <Yugnoswam> craftbukkit operator panel
#481 [07:28] <Necrodoom> never used that
#482 [07:28] <Yugnoswam> ohh you mean pail?
#483 [07:29] <Yugnoswam> this is what i used to install the server
#484 [07:29] <Necrodoom> the operator panel from http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/craftbukkit-automatic-installer.26555/
#485 [07:29] <Necrodoom> ?
#486 [07:29] <Yugnoswam> yes
#487 [07:29] <Necrodoom> meh
#488 [07:30] <Yugnoswam> tbh i think i need to start over with the plugins folder, thety all came pre-installed
#489 [07:30] <Yugnoswam> i only need world guard and world edit.
#490 [07:30] <Necrodoom> agree, all SK plugins
#491 [07:30] <Necrodoom> prepacks shouldnt be used
#492 [07:30] <Necrodoom> always setup the server yourself
#493 [07:30] <Necrodoom> this way you avoid problems like this
#494 [07:31] <Necrodoom> and misc config errors
#495 [07:31] <Yugnoswam> ohh ffs, java issue is back i just fixed this :@
#496 [07:31] <Yugnoswam> "java se binary has stopped working" every 5 mins or so
#497 [07:31] <Necrodoom> id suggest dumping the prepack, and setting up a server following this: http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server
#498 [07:31] <Yugnoswam> delete all of that?
#499 [07:32] <Necrodoom> try move the entire plugin folder for now
#500 [07:33] <Yugnoswam> seems to work
#501 [07:33] <Necrodoom> can i see the bukkit root folder for a sec?
#502 [07:33] <Necrodoom> seems ok
#503 [07:34] <Yugnoswam> whats the world edit jar doing in root folder?
#504 [07:34] <Necrodoom> not sure, looks like your installer derped
#505 [07:35] <Necrodoom> go task manager, terminate javaw.exe
#506 [07:35] <Necrodoom> nvm
#507 [07:35] <Yugnoswam> shall i try adding WE and WG back?
#508 [07:35] <Necrodoom> yeah
#509 [07:36] <Yugnoswam> so far so good
#510 [07:36] <Necrodoom> as a note, /reload isnt very healthy for server
#511 [07:36] <Yugnoswam> do i need commandbook?
#512 [07:37] <Yugnoswam> hmm
#513 [07:37] <Yugnoswam> doing stop twice works
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#515 [07:37] <Necrodoom> commandbook isnt needed
#516 [07:37] <Necrodoom> id recommend essentials over commandbook
#517 [07:37] <Yugnoswam> yeah its what ive usually used
#518 [07:37] <Yugnoswam> tbh though, we all just play survival
#519 [07:38] <Morrolan> Necrodoom: Hah, shameless plug detected. :P
#520 [07:38] <Necrodoom> Morrolan: :D
#521 [07:38] <Yugnoswam> dont spawn anything and the only command i ever use is whitelist
#522 [07:38] <Yugnoswam> dont really need either tbh
#523 [07:39] <Morrolan> Doesn't Bukkit (or the vanilla server, even?) contain a whitelist since quite some time, now?
#524 [07:39] <Yugnoswam> yes
#525 [07:39] <Necrodoom> yep
#526 [07:39] <Necrodoom> reminds me how much i hate worldedit /help
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#528 [07:39] <Yugnoswam> seems to be working
#529 [07:39] <Yugnoswam> thank you all very much!
#530 [07:39] <Necrodoom> np
#531 [07:40] <nigga> minecraft keeps crashing on my mac what should i do
#532 [07:40] <Yugnoswam> Necrodoom: Do you have any ideas why "java se binary has stopped working" happens a lot?
#533 [07:40] <Yugnoswam> nigga: get a PC or give us more info :)
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#535 [07:40] <Necrodoom> Yugnoswam: you get any other data?
#536 [07:40] <Yugnoswam> nope
#537 [07:41] <Yugnoswam> watch joinme, itll happen
#538 [07:41] <Necrodoom> oh, simply windows shows window saying it stopped working?
#539 [07:41] <nigga> k but is says that minecrft just quit and do you thing i should just del the game it only happens on one world
#540 [07:41] <Yugnoswam> yh
#541 [07:41] <Yugnoswam> nigga: probably corrupt world.
#542 [07:42] <Yugnoswam> Necrodoom: Yeah it just says stopped working
#543 [07:42] <nigga> so delete
#544 [07:42] <Necrodoom> Yugnoswam: sounds like an issue with java installion
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#547 [07:43] <Necrodoom> screen flicker or a torch under you?
#548 [07:45] <Yugnoswam> torch haha
#549 [07:45] <Necrodoom> yep
#550 [07:45] <Yugnoswam> the one time im trying to get it to crash, its taking it time on it lol
#551 [07:47] <Necrodoom> f11 will usually crash MC for me
#552 [07:47] <Yugnoswam> doesnt for me
#553 [07:47] <Necrodoom> on CM
#554 [07:47] <Necrodoom> MC*
#555 [07:47] <Yugnoswam> fullscreen? i know
#556 [07:47] <Yugnoswam> that just crashes to memory screen
#557 [07:47] <Yugnoswam> not end the se binary process
#558 [07:48] <Necrodoom> ah
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#561 [07:49] <Guest_> Hey Guys
#562 [07:50] <Guest_> It's HiddenNinja
#563 [07:50] <Guest_> Yug's PC Has Just Crashed
#564 [07:50] <Necrodoom> o.o
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#566 [07:50] <HiddenNinja> :)
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#569 [07:53] <HiddenNinja> He should be back on any second :)
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#571 [07:54] <Yugnoswam> im back
#572 [07:54] <Yugnoswam> So, apparently I've not fixed the issue with MC crashing my PC
#573 [07:55] <Necrodoom> eh
#574 [07:55] <Yugnoswam> ffs, why couldnt they have coded it in a decent language?
#575 [07:55] <Necrodoom> the problem isnt the language
#576 [07:55] <Necrodoom> its the fact mojang isnt bothered to fix any freaking major bug
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#578 [07:56] <Necrodoom> still waiting on a bug fix for ore generation back from infdev
#579 [07:56] <Yugnoswam> no its the language
#580 [07:56] <Yugnoswam> java is shit.
#581 [07:56] <Necrodoom> Yugnoswam: language doesnt matter if the dev wont fix any bug
#582 [07:56] <Yugnoswam> java is inefficient to be used for a game though.
#583 [07:57] <Yugnoswam> which is why crysis 2 uses less resources on my system than minecraft.
#584 [07:57] <Necrodoom> thats because crysis 2 is coded properly
#585 [07:57] <Yugnoswam> and isnt in java.
#586 [07:58] <Necrodoom> basically, both reasons
#587 [07:58] <Yugnoswam> yes.
#588 [07:58] <Necrodoom> but lazy programming more
#589 [07:58] <Yugnoswam> anyway, my mc ran fine yesterday with just 32bit
#590 [07:58] <Yugnoswam> im gunna remove 64bit, how can i get my server to work still?
#591 [07:59] <Necrodoom> im running 64bit
#592 [08:00] <Yugnoswam> im gunna run javara, remove all java registry too
#593 [08:03] <Yugnoswam> im also going back to java 6
#594 [08:03] <Yugnoswam> 7 is when this all started
#595 [08:05] <Yugnoswam> right, im on Java6.26 now
#596 [08:06] <Yugnoswam> 32bit. and I'm not changing it.
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#607 [08:30] <sswe> My Minecraft keeps crashing when I open it! No mods, I force updated, here is my error: http://pastebin.com/kgxxaUAu
#608 [08:31] <sswe> I am on windowsXP
#609 [08:31] <osuka_> sswe Update JRE
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#611 [08:31] <osuka_> ...okay, I guess.
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#632 [09:18] <Guest50627> Hy everybody i have a problem with my minecraft, when i connect, i get this "Bad video card drivers! " I checked all the forums, a lot of people have the same problem but no one found a solution
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#634 [09:18] <Guest50627> (this is not a problem with my drivers, i updated them twice)
#635 [09:18] <Morrolan> How did you update them?
#636 [09:19] <Guest50627> by downloading the latest drivers on the AMD webside
#637 [09:19] <Guest50627> site*
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#641 [09:22] <Guest50627> by the way my config is : 6Go RAM, Windows 8 64b, Video Card AMD HD 5700 series
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#645 [09:43] <hunter> how do i delete my cookies to load my membership?
#646 [09:43] <hunter> or put cookies on so my membership can be activated..
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#648 [09:44] <hunter> i receivd a yellow pop u msg before to do something with my cookies but could not read the whole msg bc it would not let me delete the msg
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#654 [09:59] <KANAREREN> Hi. I cannot chat
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#656 [09:59] <KANAREREN> public.mcno.no
#657 [09:59] <KANAREREN> is the server i cannot chat on
#658 [10:00] <KANAREREN> i wrote play.mccombat.com in the chat, and after this i cannot chat anymore
#659 [10:00] <TheNoodle> We cannot provide support for specific servers. Minecraft servers are run by users themselves, there is no central authority or support.
#660 [10:00] <KANAREREN> what can i do?
#661 [10:00] <KANAREREN> ok. But do you have any idea why i can not chat anymore?
#662 [10:01] <TheNoodle> No.
#663 [10:01] <KANAREREN> and how to fix this?
#664 [10:01] <KANAREREN> ok.
#665 [10:01] <KANAREREN> thx
#666 [10:01] <blockey> Escuse me I click play in browser and then my screen turns white what do I do?
#667 [10:03] <blockey> Hello is any one there still???
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#673 [10:05] <blockey> Hello can someone please help me?
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#675 [10:05] <HunterJ224> I cannot get minecraft to launch. The launch page comes up after I downloaded it, but then it just disappears
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#678 [10:07] <HunterJ224> I cannot get minecraft to launch. The launch page comes up after I downloaded it, but then it just disappears
#679 [10:07] <HunterJ224> I cannot get minecraft to launch. The launch page comes up after I downloaded it, but then it just disappears
#680 [10:07] <HunterJ224> whenI log in
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#683 [10:08] <HunterJ224> I cannot get minecraft to launch. The launch page comes up after I downloaded it, but then it just disappears when I log in
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#685 [10:09] <lajlajalja> why is my screen bouncing
#686 [10:09] <TheNoodle> Because you're jumping
#687 [10:10] <lajlajalja> no when i open minecraft then my game, the screen is bouncing
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#689 [10:10] <HunterJ224> I cannot get minecraft to launch. The launch page comes up after I downloaded it, but then it just disappears when I log in
#690 [10:11] <lajlajalja> just help! i bought minecraft and now the screen bounces when i play
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#693 [10:12] <lajlajalja> i just bought minecraft, and the screen bounces when i jump
#694 [10:12] <lajlajalja> wait i don't jump
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#701 [10:21] <Joe_> Okay guys do you help with modded clients?
#702 [10:23] <Joe_> Getting a nasty Ticking Screen @ ayh.class
#703 [10:23] <Joe_> Getting a nasty Ticking Screen @ ayh.class
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#736 [11:34] <Cornelius> We seem to be having trouble "destroying" blocks when building worlds. It was once an option to both build and destroy the blocks. Now it appears we can only to the former. Any tips to fix?
#737 [11:35] <Necrodoom> hold left click?
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#741 [11:37] <Cornelius> That used to work.....not so now. Any other ideas?
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#746 [11:44] <katiebug586> vox it happend again
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#748 [11:44] <katiebug586> HELP ANYONE?
#749 [11:45] <tikker> wha thappened again?
#750 [11:45] <katiebug586> minecraft crash
#751 [11:46] <katiebug586> he told me how to fix it and it crashed today
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#753 [11:48] <tikker> right...
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#755 [11:52] <CC268> what are the the little torch looking icons next to your healthbar?
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#757 [11:54] <Murrlin> ^_^
#758 [11:55] <tikker> lot's of people are in a hurry it appears :p
#759 [11:56] <Eddie> They better not complain :p
#760 [11:56] <osuka_> lol
#761 [11:57] <Morrolan> But how can you not watch chat 24/7 and respond instantly. D:
#762 [11:57] <Morrolan> After all, that's what Mojang pays us for, right?
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#764 [12:00] <tikker> indeed
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#766 [12:00] <Jhwarby> Hey guys, I have the latest Sphax Pure BD Craft, and I also have optifine, but for some reason water won't show?
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#768 [12:01] <Oxymoron> Shouldn't zombies be able to equip items you throw at them? I
#769 [12:01] <Oxymoron> I've been trying to do it, but nothing happens. Skeletons can do it though.
#770 [12:03] <Jhwarby> ^^
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#772 [12:03] <Necrodoom> Jhwarby: mods are not supported in here, ask the mod maker
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#774 [12:04] <Oxymoron> Anyone?
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#777 [12:06] <tikker> i believe they should
#778 [12:07] <tikker> but i may be wrong
#779 [12:07] <Oxymoron> I've tried. They don't.
#780 [12:07] <Oxymoron> Skeletons can though.
#781 [12:07] <Oxymoron> I think zombies used to be able to.
#782 [12:08] <Oxymoron> Possibly a new glitch in 1.4.5?
#783 [12:09] <tikker> wiki says they can
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#785 [12:09] <tikker> Zombies can pick up and equip dropped items
#786 [12:09] <Oxymoron> They should. I've done it before. But it no longer works.
#787 [12:10] <Oxymoron> With every glitch fix, there's a new glitch. -_-
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#797 [12:27] <zyngawow> I am back with my low FPS problem!
#798 [12:27] <zyngawow> I downloaded the correct GPU drivers.. but still laggy
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#800 [12:31] <zyngawow> CPU is at 49%, as well as RAM
#801 [12:31] <zyngawow> and GPU at 16%
#802 [12:32] <zyngawow> I am using a 128x texture pack with 40 mods installed
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#805 [12:37] <Morrolan> zyngawow - 49% of one core, or 49% in Windows' task manager?
#806 [12:37] <zyngawow> task manager
#807 [12:37] <Morrolan> How many cores does your CPU have?
#808 [12:37] <zyngawow> I guess 4
#809 [12:37] <zyngawow> i3 530
#810 [12:38] <Eddie> I believe that has 2
#811 [12:38] <Morrolan> Two physical cores with hyperthreading, then. So 49% just mean that Minecraft is using one core at 100%.
#812 [12:38] <Eddie> It has 4 threads
#813 [12:38] <Morrolan> Since Minecraft won't use more than one core, your CPU is the bottleneck here.
#814 [12:38] <zyngawow> I'm also running a server
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#821 [12:58] <nikolaj> i have pay to play, but ik not work
#822 [13:00] <Calinou> nikolaj: elaborate please?
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#825 [13:01] <Ogredude> Morrolan: I thought minecraft would use all available cores now
#826 [13:01] <Ogredude> I know server does
#827 [13:01] <zyngawow> Hmmm
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#829 [13:01] <zyngawow> I dont think that is the issue, it was working for me a couple of months ago
#830 [13:01] <Ogredude> zyngawow: what kind of video card do you have?
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#832 [13:01] <Ogredude> and are you running OptiFine in that big list of mods?
#833 [13:01] <zyngawow> Sapphire Radeon 7770
#834 [13:01] <zyngawow> Optifine, yes
#835 [13:02] <nikolaj> elaborate ?
#836 [13:02] <Ogredude> how much ram is allocated to minecraft?
#837 [13:02] <zyngawow> 4gb
#838 [13:02] <zyngawow> about 1.3 used
#839 [13:02] <Ogredude> there's your problem. Cut it down to 512MB and see what happens
#840 [13:02] <Ogredude> oddly enough, minecraft runs better with less ram than it does with more ram
#841 [13:02] <zyngawow> lol
#842 [13:03] <Ogredude> nikolaj: describe your symptoms to us please.
#843 [13:04] <zyngawow> I feel like 512mb is too little, I'm using a 128x texture pack
#844 [13:04] <nikolaj> i clik on play and it´s come up that i have to pay
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#846 [13:05] <Ogredude> zyngawow: give it a shot, sneak it up to 768M if you have to
#847 [13:05] <Ogredude> but try it with 512 first
#848 [13:05] <zyngawow> ok :)
#849 [13:05] <zyngawow> I'll try and tell you
#850 [13:05] <Ogredude> I've run 128x texture packs in 512 quite happily
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#852 [13:06] <Ogredude> hmm
#853 [13:06] <Ogredude> !paid ogredude
#854 [13:06] <Ogredude> nikolaj: what username did you use to register?
#855 [13:06] <Ogredude> we'll see if the payment servers have you registered
#856 [13:07] <nikolaj> my email
#857 [13:07] <nikolaj> nikolaj.sebastian
#858 [13:07] <Calinou> zyngawow: 4GB?
#859 [13:07] <Calinou> you serious?
#860 [13:07] <nikolaj> nikolaj.sebastian@live.dk
#861 [13:08] <Ogredude> !paid nikolaj.sebastian@live.dk
#862 [13:08] <Calinou> nikolaj: we do not need your email address
#863 [13:08] <zyngawow> Calinou: yeah, having 12 is useful
#864 [13:08] <Calinou> erm
#865 [13:08] <zyngawow> !paid zyngawow
#866 [13:08] <Calinou> zyngawow: how do you know I have 12GB ram? :P
#867 [13:08] <Ogredude> nikolaj: ok so it doesn't show that the payment's gone through. When did you purchase it?
#868 [13:08] <Calinou> nevermind nikolaj, i was wrong
#869 [13:08] <zyngawow> I have 12GB of ram
#870 [13:08] <Ogredude> nikolaj: I'd say get in touch with mojang, something's gone wrong with the purchas
#871 [13:08] <zyngawow> I dont know how much you have :)
#872 [13:08] <Calinou> me too 8) only 617MB used right now, linux ftw
#873 [13:09] <nikolaj> hmmm
#874 [13:09] <zyngawow> win 8
#875 [13:09] <nikolaj> okay
#876 [13:09] * Calinou laughs at windows 8..
#876 [13:09] <Calinou> tablet OS on 24" screens
#877 [13:09] <Calinou> FUN
#878 [13:09] <Ogredude> I need to get a better box for our server. It's really bogging down on a dual Athlon MP 2400+/3GB system
#879 [13:09] <zyngawow> Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
#880 [13:09] <zyngawow> so yeah
#881 [13:09] <zyngawow> MC doesnt like 512MB
#882 [13:09] <Calinou> zyngawow: 1GB should work
#883 [13:09] <zyngawow> Using mods
#884 [13:09] <Calinou> -Xms1G -Xmx1G, try these command line options
#885 [13:09] <zyngawow> 40 to be exact
#886 [13:09] <Calinou> mods do not neccesarily increase RAM usage a lot
#887 [13:10] <zyngawow> believe me, they do, 40 mods do
#888 [13:10] <zyngawow> not as much as CPU
#889 [13:10] <zyngawow> btw, are ticks threaded?
#890 [13:11] <Ogredude> I want to say that's a LOT of mods
#891 [13:11] <nikolaj> yes i purchase it
#892 [13:11] <Ogredude> but then again, we run 4 main ones on our server and there's probably 10 additional support mods going on
#893 [13:12] <Ogredude> nikolaj: I believe you that you purchased it, or at least attempted to purchase it. What I'm saying is that something unknown went wrong during the purchase process and you're not showing up as a paid user. Contact Mojang to get it taken care of.
#894 [13:12] <zyngawow> Go test it yourself :P #ftblauncher ... I help developing it, but most modders dont care about performance
#895 [13:13] <zyngawow> 15fps with a 512x texture pack and no mods
#896 [13:13] <Calinou> 512x packs are VERY slow and inefficient
#897 [13:13] <nikolaj> 'okay
#898 [13:13] <zyngawow> I know, but I also have something weird happening..
#899 [13:13] <Calinou> you should use optifine and anisotropic filtering, and a 128x pack. it's sufficient
#900 [13:13] <zyngawow> Hum
#901 [13:13] <zyngawow> I'll try that
#902 [13:13] <Calinou> you'll barely see pixels on 128x packs anyway
#903 [13:14] <Calinou> depends on screen size of course
#904 [13:14] <Calinou> zyngawow: they are not, minecraft is not really multithreaded
#905 [13:14] <zyngawow> any reason or just how it was coded?
#906 [13:14] <Ogredude> from what I understand, it's surprisingly hard to get Java stuff to be multithreaded
#907 [13:15] <zyngawow> 128x gets me 30fps
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#911 [13:17] <zyngawow> 20fps with 128x 16x Antisotropic filter
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#913 [13:18] <Ogredude> zyngawow: okay you've got some weird things going on. I'd suggest going back to vanilla minecraft, check what your framerate is, then start adding things a bit at a time
#914 [13:19] <Ogredude> eventually you'll hit the one that bogs the system and you'll have a better idea what to be looking at
#915 [13:19] <zyngawow> That was on vanilla
#916 [13:19] <Ogredude> yeah switch back to the vanilla texturepack too
#917 [13:19] <Ogredude> just for the sake of troubleshooting
#918 [13:19] <zyngawow> Ok
#919 [13:21] <zyngawow> What settings do you want me to have
#920 [13:22] <zyngawow> 29fps with vanilla TP and 16x AS
#921 [13:27] <Ogredude> zyngawow: okay so it's something deeper in your system besides minecraft
#922 [13:27] <Ogredude> if it can't even pull a decent framerate on pure vanilla, it's probably not minecraft's issue
#923 [13:27] <zyngawow> yes
#924 [13:27] <zyngawow> AMD's drivers are shit
#925 [13:28] <zyngawow> I could get this working with a 440gt
#926 [13:28] <zyngawow> all was the same but a new SSD and PSU
#927 [13:33] <zyngawow> Ok.. gpu freq. switches from 1Ghz to 300mhz
#928 [13:34] <Ogredude> probably some settings in CCC that'd make a difference... Unfortunately I haven't run ATI cards in so long I have no clue which switches to flip
#929 [13:34] <Calinou> AMD was, is and will be shit
#930 [13:34] <Calinou> intel and nvidia *HIGH FIVE*
#931 [13:34] <Ogredude> I do know that on my nvidia setup, I was getting this really annoying x-ray vision thing going on, I switched off "threaded optimization" in the nvidia control panel, fixed it
#932 [13:34] <zyngawow> I know nvidia is better, but is also more expensive
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#934 [13:34] <Calinou> +20€ isn't the end of the world for same performance but working drivers
#935 [13:35] <Calinou> and also, linux support is 300% better (and the driver is usually faster than on windows :D)
#936 [13:35] <Calinou> not the case for AMD
#937 [13:35] <Ogredude> nvidia's cards seem to be longer-lived too
#938 [13:36] <Calinou> yeah
#939 [13:36] <Ogredude> I mean I'm running a 9800 GTX in this thing, and it's handled anything I've ever thrown at it, quite happily
#940 [13:36] <Calinou> one year old AMD GPU (4650) == already legacy
#941 [13:36] <Ogredude> it's what, 4 generations out of date?
#942 [13:36] <Calinou> this is facepalmable
#943 [13:36] <Calinou> the 9000 series is awesome for its price
#944 [13:36] <Calinou> a 9800 is like 50-ish euros..
#945 [13:36] <Calinou> runs minecraft on far distance playably
#946 [13:37] <Calinou> people keep saying AMD is more cooperative with the open source community, while this is true, this does not mean they are better -- the nouveau driver works quite well, and the nvidia driver is very fast, while catalyst is still far behind the windows driver
#947 [13:38] <Calinou> nouveau is 100% reverse engineering, yet the nouveau devs have never been sued by nvidia
#948 [13:39] <zyngawow> So... I cant do anything :(
#949 [13:40] <Calinou> zyngawow: try disabling advanced opengl if you use it... it doesn't really increase performance most of the time
#950 [13:41] <zyngawow> huhm
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#952 [13:45] <zyngawow> 14-18 fps if I disable it (with mods) and I set the graphics mode to fast, i get 30, and I dont think much changes
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#954 [13:50] <kiugetski> hi
#955 [13:50] <kiugetski> zyng
#956 [13:50] <zyngawow> ?
#957 [13:50] <kiugetski> make sure server texture is off
#958 [13:51] <kiugetski> it kill most of the fps
#959 [13:51] <zyngawow> where is that
#960 [13:51] <kiugetski> options
#961 [13:51] <kiugetski> video
#962 [13:51] <kiugetski> and opengl help just a bit
#963 [13:51] <kiugetski> but you can let it to on
#964 [13:51] <zyngawow> I dont see server textures anywhere
#965 [13:52] <kiugetski> in your minecraft
#966 [13:52] <kiugetski> option video setting
#967 [13:52] <zyngawow> using optifine
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#970 [13:52] <kiugetski> i hate mods
#971 [13:52] <kiugetski> :P
#972 [13:52] <la6ofy> i LOVE mods
#973 [13:52] <kiugetski> i hate mods
#974 [13:53] <la6ofy> you should try them out
#975 [13:53] <kiugetski> ive done it
#976 [13:53] <kiugetski> i p^refer what mojang make
#977 [13:53] <kiugetski> :)
#978 [13:53] <la6ofy> kk
#979 [13:53] <la6ofy> but you have to use optifine
#980 [13:53] <kiugetski> rofl
#981 [13:53] <la6ofy> and nei
#982 [13:53] <kiugetski> not at all
#983 [13:53] <la6ofy> rofl?
#984 [13:53] <kiugetski> this computer cost me around 5 000
#985 [13:54] <kiugetski> its not a random one lol
#986 [13:54] <kiugetski> check kiugetski elite on youtube
#987 [13:54] <kiugetski> :)
#988 [13:54] <la6ofy> :)
#989 [13:54] <la6ofy> I am gonna check you out
#990 [13:54] <kiugetski> when i play 6 games of eveonline
#991 [13:54] <kiugetski> :D
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#993 [13:54] <la6ofy> do you have a server of minecraft?
#994 [13:54] <kiugetski> yes
#995 [13:54] <la6ofy> ip?
#996 [13:55] <kiugetski> cannot say in public
#997 [13:55] <kiugetski> they dont want
#998 [13:55] <la6ofy> pm me
#999 [13:55] <la6ofy> do /msg la6ofy (IP)
#1000 [13:55] <la6ofy> or dont do that
#1001 [13:55] <la6ofy> one min
#1002 [13:56] <kiugetski> simple to open a private chat haha
#1003 [13:56] <la6ofy> yeah I know
#1004 [13:56] <kiugetski> awww i ll go watch my video once more
#1005 [13:56] <kiugetski> i never get tired of it
#1006 [13:57] <la6ofy> sign in to your server lets play
#1007 [13:57] <kiugetski> well i will when my iphone tell me you are on
#1008 [13:57] <kiugetski> lol
#1009 [13:58] <la6ofy> lol
#1010 [13:58] <la6ofy> McMyAdmin?
#1011 [13:58] <kiugetski> nop
#1012 [13:58] <kiugetski> that one suck
#1013 [13:58] <la6ofy> what is it?
#1014 [13:58] <kiugetski> lol strange skin
#1015 [13:59] <la6ofy> thanks
#1016 [13:59] <la6ofy> it is an enderman
#1017 [13:59] <la6ofy> I cant chat inside the game
#1018 [13:59] <kiugetski> i know
#1019 [13:59] <kiugetski> i see both
#1020 [13:59] <kiugetski> many computer
#1021 [13:59] <kiugetski> its a multi cored server
#1022 [13:59] <la6ofy> may I help you in the server?
#1023 [13:59] <la6ofy> I want to make it big :)
#1024 [13:59] <kiugetski> not if i dont know it
#1025 [14:00] <kiugetski> by the way
#1026 [14:00] <kiugetski> read the spawn
#1027 [14:00] <la6ofy> I cant do /spawn
#1028 [14:00] <kiugetski> nah
#1029 [14:00] <kiugetski> i mean on the spawn
#1030 [14:00] <kiugetski> all the pannels
#1031 [14:01] <la6ofy> what do you want me to read?
#1032 [14:02] <Boreeas> Could you maybe move that talk to another channel?
#1033 [14:02] <la6ofy> we stopped talking here
#1034 [14:03] <la6ofy> :)
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#1039 [14:08] * la6ofy is now known as direwolf_fan
#1040 [14:08] <direwolf_fan> Hey!
#1041 [14:11] * direwolf_fan is now known as la6ofy
#1042 [14:17] <kiugetski> hi
#1043 [14:17] <kiugetski> how can we help you
#1044 [14:18] * Andrs_Dragneel [Andrs_Dragneel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1045 [14:18] <Andrs_Dragneel> Hola
#1046 [14:18] <la6ofy> hola sinuor
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#1048 [14:19] <kiugetski> how can we help you
#1049 [14:19] <kiugetski> how can we help you
#1050 [14:19] * mib_m1zjfa [mib_m1zjfa@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1051 [14:19] <la6ofy> ¿en qué puedo ayudarle
#1052 [14:20] <Andrs_Dragneel> Si muchas gracias
#1053 [14:20] <Andrs_Dragneel> es q quiero saber algo sobre los mods de MC
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#1055 [14:20] <kiugetski> they dont offer help for mods
#1056 [14:20] <la6ofy> ¿qué necesitas?
#1057 [14:21] <Andrs_Dragneel> Quisiera saber como hago para instalar mods a mi MC
#1058 [14:21] <la6ofy> no
#1059 [14:21] <kiugetski> it smell a futur kick or ban lol
#1060 [14:21] <la6ofy> what do you want kiu
#1061 [14:21] <Andrs_Dragneel> Es que me dijeron que aqui podrian ayudarme
#1062 [14:21] <la6ofy> I am talking to him in spanish
#1063 [14:22] <kiugetski> i know
#1064 [14:22] <kiugetski> but its english channel here
#1065 [14:22] <la6ofy> nosotros no podemos ayudar con mods
#1066 [14:22] * Contex|Away is now known as Contex
#1067 [14:22] <la6ofy> He needs help I am giving him help!
#1068 [14:22] <kiugetski> and we offer no help for mods
#1069 [14:22] <kiugetski> do it in private
#1070 [14:22] <la6ofy> I KNOW I AM TELLING HIM
#1071 [14:22] <la6ofy> DONT INTERFERE
#1072 [14:22] <Andrs_Dragneel> Y podrias decirme donde puedo conseguir alguien que me explique o me ayude?
#1073 [14:23] <kiugetski> im trying to protect you from a futur kick or mute
#1074 [14:23] <la6ofy> he wants to know where he can learn to install mods
#1075 [14:23] <kiugetski> tell him in private of in english
#1076 [14:24] <TheNoodle> kiugetski, please don't back seat op.
#1077 [14:24] <kiugetski> im french and i talk in english here
#1078 [14:24] <la6ofy> but he cant talk english
#1079 [14:24] <la6ofy> you dont have any pity for him?
#1080 [14:24] <TheNoodle> la6ofy, ignore kiugetski.
#1081 [14:24] <la6ofy> k noodle
#1082 [14:24] <la6ofy> google cómo instalar mods en español
#1083 [14:25] <la6ofy> a continuación encontrará ayuda con suerte
#1084 [14:25] <kiugetski> is ops have all their own rules ...
#1085 [14:25] <kiugetski> some ban for other language and other dont
#1086 [14:25] <kiugetski> some kick for mods
#1087 [14:25] <kiugetski> and other dont
#1088 [14:25] <TheNoodle> kiugetski, yep.
#1089 [14:25] <la6ofy> si no lo haces yo te ayudo
#1090 [14:25] <kiugetski> that funny to see coruption everywhere
#1091 [14:25] <kiugetski> lol
#1092 [14:26] <la6ofy> lol
#1093 [14:26] <TheNoodle> I don't see how that's corruption.
#1094 [14:26] <la6ofy> me too
#1095 [14:26] <la6ofy> I dont see everyone has his own rules
#1096 [14:26] <kiugetski> you dont even respect the channel rules
#1097 [14:26] <kiugetski> ...
#1098 [14:26] <la6ofy> in school every teacher has his own rules dont you have that?
#1099 [14:26] <TheNoodle> kiugetski, it's not your place to decide that.
#1100 [14:27] <kiugetski> ...
#1101 [14:27] <kiugetski> ok muted
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#1103 [14:27] <Cicero> I hope I'm not the only one who thinks kiugetski should just shut up already
#1104 [14:27] <la6ofy> me too I think that too
#1105 [14:27] <la6ofy> I am with you cicero
#1106 [14:27] <TheNoodle> So far on this network all I've seen from kiugetski is him threatening to hack someone after getting removed from another channel.
#1107 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> gg
#1108 [14:28] <la6ofy> lol
#1109 [14:28] <TheNoodle> I wonder if AuBot is going to be nice today
#1110 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> Well..
#1111 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> I could always..
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#1113 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> /ban
#1114 [14:28] <TheNoodle> !kick kiugetski Your attitude isn't welcome here.
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#1116 [14:28] <la6ofy> lol
#1117 [14:28] <TheNoodle> See now this is why I don't like AuBot.
#1118 [14:28] <TheNoodle> Grim_Reaper, sounds like an excellent idea.
#1119 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> !kick kiugetski Your attitude isn't welcome here.
#1120 [14:28] * AuBot kicked kiugetski from #minecrafthelp (Reason: iugetski :I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here. (Issued by Grim_Reaper with reason: Your attitude isn't welcome here.))
#1121 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> If he comes back just give me a shout and I'll add voxels banhammer on him
#1122 [14:29] <TheNoodle> Why have you forsaken me AuBot?
#1123 [14:29] <la6ofy> lol
#1124 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> On second thought..
#1125 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> Lemme just add it now quick
#1126 [14:29] <TheNoodle> haha
#1127 [14:29] <la6ofy> lol
#1128 [14:30] <Lutzee> Poor noodle haha
#1129 [14:30] <TheNoodle> All this power and AuBot is the one that screws me up ;_;
#1130 [14:30] <la6ofy> Grim_Reaper who are you are you creator of this channel?
#1131 [14:30] <Grim_Reaper> No I am not
#1132 [14:31] <Grim_Reaper> Im just a helper
#1133 [14:31] <la6ofy> kk
#1134 [14:31] <la6ofy> and noodle you are a op correct?
#1135 [14:31] <TheNoodle> I'm an EsperNet network operator.
#1136 [14:31] <TheNoodle> IR COP
#1137 [14:31] <la6ofy> ooohh
#1138 [14:31] <TheNoodle> But in this channel I'm just a helper.
#1139 [14:32] <la6ofy> so you have power over all irc channels?
#1140 [14:32] <TheNoodle> Technically yes.
#1141 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> oh
#1142 [14:32] <la6ofy> and you like minecraft?
#1143 [14:32] <TheNoodle> But we don't interfere in channel matters.
#1144 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> Apparently I don't have access to set bans on #minecrafthelp lol
#1145 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan or DopeGhoti can get round to doing it :p
#1146 [14:32] <TheNoodle> or just chanserv :P
#1147 [14:32] <Lutzee> Or you know... Kealper? :P
#1148 [14:32] <TheNoodle> la6ofy, eh, not really
#1149 [14:33] <TheNoodle> Actually yeah....
#1150 [14:33] <Grim_Reaper> Anyways
#1151 [14:33] * TheNoodle tugs Kealper's sleeve
#1151 [14:33] <la6ofy> why is your name sometimes red and sometimes white?
#1152 [14:33] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1152 [14:33] <Grim_Reaper> Cause sometimes he highlights you la6ofy
#1153 [14:33] <Grim_Reaper> Thanks GreyVulpine :p
#1154 [14:33] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1154 [14:33] <Lutzee> la6ofy: that occures when we say your name
#1155 [14:33] <Kealper> wat
#1156 [14:33] <Grim_Reaper> Nevermind Kealper
#1157 [14:33] <TheNoodle> Did I get removed from AuBot kealper? :P
#1158 [14:33] <la6ofy> oh
#1159 [14:33] <Grim_Reaper> We dont want you here
#1160 [14:33] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
#1161 [14:33] * Kealper is eating :o
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#1162 [14:34] <la6ofy> that's a good feature in IRC
#1163 [14:34] <Kealper> shouldn't have
#1164 [14:34] * GreyVulpine burps loudly.
#1164 [14:34] <sid|1> how do i turn off server textures?
#1165 [14:34] <la6ofy> ooh the smell is really bad Grey
#1166 [14:34] <Grim_Reaper> Ew GreyVulpine. We have company!
#1167 [14:34] <la6ofy> dont burp again please
#1168 [14:34] * GreyVulpine winks
#1168 [14:34] <TheNoodle> lolled
#1169 [14:34] <la6ofy> sid to turn off server tectures go out of server
#1170 [14:35] <la6ofy> then come back in and say no to the message
#1171 [14:35] <la6ofy> if it doesnt come
#1172 [14:35] <la6ofy> then go to options
#1173 [14:35] <la6ofy> then go to Multiplayer Settings
#1174 [14:35] <TheNoodle> !kick tryy3 I love you.
#1175 [14:35] <tryy3> what?
#1176 [14:35] <TheNoodle> Kealperrrrrr
#1177 [14:36] <la6ofy> sorry I meant video setting
#1178 [14:36] <tryy3> what did i do this timr
#1179 [14:36] <tryy3> time*
#1180 [14:36] <Kealper> huh.... give me a bit
#1181 [14:36] <TheNoodle> tryy3, you were the first one I saw on the userlist that wouldn't mind being kicked <3
#1182 [14:36] <la6ofy> go to options then video settings then turn off server textures
#1183 [14:36] <tryy3> lol¨
#1184 [14:36] <tryy3> yet you didn't succed to kick me? :D
#1185 [14:36] <TheNoodle> Yet :3
#1186 [14:36] <sid|1> thanks la6ofy
#1187 [14:36] <tryy3> :3
#1188 [14:36] <la6ofy> anytime
#1189 [14:37] <Andrs_Dragneel> Thank's everyone :)
#1190 [14:37] <Andrs_Dragneel> I don't speak english xD
#1191 [14:37] <Andrs_Dragneel> Just a little
#1192 [14:38] <la6ofy> lol andres
#1193 [14:38] <Andrs_Dragneel> xD
#1194 [14:38] <sid|1> hrm i think my default texture pack is messed up
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#1196 [14:38] <la6ofy> if you know little english then see mod in english
#1197 [14:38] <la6ofy> sid what do you mean
#1198 [14:38] <la6ofy> sid: post a screenshot and let me see
#1199 [14:38] <Andrs_Dragneel> Entiendo a la perfeccion el ingles xD
#1200 [14:38] <sid|1> k
#1201 [14:38] <Andrs_Dragneel> Lo q no se es hablarlo :P
#1202 [14:39] <Bobapple> Ok we have signed up and purchsed minecraft with a credit card and can long into Mojang but cannot seem to login to the minecraft game... can anyone help me?
#1203 [14:39] <la6ofy> I can help you
#1204 [14:39] <la6ofy> when did you buy minecraft?
#1205 [14:39] <Bobapple> thank you!
#1206 [14:39] <Bobapple> last night
#1207 [14:39] <la6ofy> did it email you a receipt
#1208 [14:39] <la6ofy> ????
#1209 [14:40] <Bobapple> it did and it does not have a username in it
#1210 [14:40] <la6ofy> I know I need to speak to you pm
#1211 [14:40] <sid|1> k hold on la6ofy
#1212 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Please don't help via PMs here unless it involves sensitive information
#1213 [14:40] <Bobapple> ok not sure what that is sorry ?
#1214 [14:40] <la6ofy> it includes sensitive information :)
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#1216 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Bobapple - What happens when you attempt to log into the minecraft game? Do you get any sort of error message?
#1217 [14:41] <sid|1> Bobapple: do /query la6ofy
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#1219 [14:41] <Bobapple> let me try and I will tell you
#1220 [14:41] <MrTroll> Hey erm how do I play minecraft
#1221 [14:41] <MrTroll> do i have to use a mouse?
#1222 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> By paying for an account and downloading the client at minecraft.net/download
#1223 [14:41] <la6ofy> MrTroll did you buy minecraft?
#1224 [14:41] <MrTroll> I could catch one if you like
#1225 [14:41] <MrTroll> ....
#1226 [14:41] <la6ofy> catch one?
#1227 [14:42] <MrTroll> I think one lives in my kitchen
#1228 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> !kb MrTroll
#1229 [14:42] * GreyBot kicked MrTroll from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rTroll :<Kicks:961>)
#1230 [14:42] * GreyVulpine yawns
#1230 [14:42] <la6ofy> He really is a troll
#1231 [14:42] <Bobapple> it says username or password does not exist
#1232 [14:42] * la6ofy hates trolls
#1232 [14:42] <TheNoodle> It's nice when they label themselves
#1233 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Bobapple - Are you using your email address to log into your account?
#1234 [14:42] <Bobapple> yes
#1235 [14:42] <la6ofy> you have to use your username
#1236 [14:42] <la6ofy> in minecraft when you signed up
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#1238 [14:42] <Bobapple> ok where do I find the username?
#1239 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> la6ofy - No, your username is your email address
#1240 [14:43] <la6ofy> you can use both
#1241 [14:43] <la6ofy> better to use the username
#1242 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Not unless it's a mojang account
#1243 [14:43] <la6ofy> where did you buy your account
#1244 [14:43] <Bobapple> mojang
#1245 [14:43] <la6ofy> on mojang.com or minecraft.com
#1246 [14:43] <la6ofy> then you have to use email
#1247 [14:44] <Bobapple> it was minecraft.net that link to mojang for cc purchase
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#1249 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> All new accounts are mojang accounts now.
#1250 [14:44] <la6ofy> use your username that you signed up for
#1251 [14:44] <Bobapple> nothing works and no way to find out what the username is
#1252 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Bobapple - Use: http://minecraft.net/retrievename on the email address you think you used. It should return an email with the username attached to it
#1253 [14:44] <la6ofy> when he signs up he can put his username
#1254 [14:45] <Bobapple> I tired and it said email not valid
#1255 [14:45] <TheNoodle> la6ofy, user registration has changed since you bought minecraft.
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#1258 [14:45] <la6ofy> lol I bought it when it got first released
#1259 [14:45] <la6ofy> 3 years ago I think
#1260 [14:45] <sid|1> la6ofy: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29235534/2012-11-22_13.38.37.png
#1261 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> la6ofy - Congrats. It's now different
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#1263 [14:45] <la6ofy> or maybe 2.5 years
#1264 [14:45] <la6ofy> sid I will be right with you now
#1265 [14:45] <Bobapple> hey guys let grey help me
#1266 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Bobapple - Could you do a http://minecraft.net/retrievename on other email addresses you normally use?
#1267 [14:45] <la6ofy> that is not messed up
#1268 [14:46] <Bobapple> I will try again but I tried the two I use
#1269 [14:46] <la6ofy> sid you have to go to video settings in options
#1270 [14:47] <la6ofy> sid - do you have optifine installed?
#1271 [14:47] <Bobapple> email not on record
#1272 [14:47] <la6ofy> sid - are you here?
#1273 [14:47] <Bobapple> for mine, my sons (who is trying to get this to work) and my wifes
#1274 [14:47] <Boreeas> la6ofy: You need to give people more time to reply
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#1276 [14:48] <la6ofy> Boreeas - k sorry I am new to this for helping people
#1277 [14:48] <sid|1> ya la6ofy
#1278 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Bobapple - Then there's no email address registered with mojang that you're using. Are you sure you've successfully created an account at mojang.com?
#1279 [14:48] <Bobapple> well tehy billed me and sent me a receipt to my email address so i assume I do...
#1280 [14:48] <la6ofy> go to video settings in options then go to animations then click all on
#1281 [14:49] <la6ofy> sid - it should work with those on
#1282 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Bobapple - Where exactly are you failing to log into?
#1283 [14:49] <Bobapple> ok we downloaded the game and when we launch it it asks you to log in and thats where it fails
#1284 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Bobapple - Is it giving you a Login Failed message?
#1285 [14:50] <Bobapple> not sure what the message is but give me a second and i will have my son try again... its on his laptop
#1286 [14:51] <Ramen> Night everyone
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#1288 [14:51] <la6ofy> night!
#1289 [14:51] <la6ofy> ah just missed him!
#1290 [14:52] <sid|1> thanks la6ofy
#1291 [14:52] <la6ofy> anytime!
#1292 [14:52] <la6ofy> well now I am counting how many people I helped and so far 2
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#1294 [14:55] <la6ofy> brb
#1295 [14:55] <Bobapple> ok we logged in to minecraft.net and it still says "buy now"
#1296 [14:56] <Bobapple> and we have already bought yesterday
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#1298 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> For the best response, you'll need to contact Mojang themself at: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1299 [14:58] <Bobapple> then we click download and it brings up another login screen
#1300 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Include the transaction ID from the receipt in the email that you got after payment. This will allow Mojang to link your payment with the account you used to make it
#1301 [14:58] <Bobapple> lol yes already sent them an email
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#1303 [14:59] <Bobapple> this is the worst experiance I have ever had with getting a damn game to work
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#1305 [15:00] <Bobapple> tried same username and password and get "login failed"
#1306 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Login Failed means the username/password is entered wrong.
#1307 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Could you try resetting your password at: https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#1308 [15:02] <Bobapple> lol we have reset password 10 times
#1309 [15:02] <Bobapple> when we look at the profile settings it lists the email address but no username so I assume the username is email addy
#1310 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes it is.
#1311 [15:02] <Bobapple> I am about ready to ask for my money back
#1312 [15:03] <Bobapple> its been a pain in the ass the whole time
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#1314 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> That's your perogative to do so.
#1315 [15:04] <Bobapple> first I wanted to pay with amex and it said I could but would only accept mc and visa
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#1317 [15:04] <Bobapple> now we cannot even get logged in
#1318 [15:04] <Bobapple> and getting ahold of a human is not an option
#1319 [15:05] <Bobapple> I appreciate your trying to help but they need to figure out a better support system
#1320 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> They're a small company of no more than a couple dozen people, out in Sweden.
#1321 [15:07] <Bobapple> no excuse tehy are taking money and not providing addequate support
#1322 [15:07] <Bobapple> have a god day al thanks again
#1323 [15:07] * GreyVulpine waves
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#1324 [15:07] <skyboy> Bobapple: you're paying for a game, not support
#1325 [15:08] <skyboy> ..
#1326 [15:09] <Kealper> TheNoodle: it's because you changed nickserv accounts
#1327 [15:10] <Kealper> !reload mod
#1328 [15:10] <Kealper> derp
#1329 [15:11] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1330 [15:11] <trencheel303> I just read up and I have to say, lol Amex
#1331 [15:11] <tikker> can't mc account take up to a few days to get premium?
#1332 [15:11] <TheNoodle> ahh
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#1334 [15:11] <trencheel303> mine took, like an hour
#1335 [15:12] <Kealper> TheNoodle: updated though
#1336 [15:12] <haribo> b1f2a187
#1337 [15:12] <TheNoodle> thanks <3
#1338 [15:12] <tikker> mine was instant
#1339 [15:12] <haribo> i got error b1f2a187
#1340 [15:12] <tikker> but that was some time ago :)
#1341 [15:13] <Kealper> haribo: Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
#1342 [15:13] <Kealper> the whole error log, that is
#1343 [15:13] <Kealper> since those error numbers are mostly useless
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#1345 [15:14] <haribo> http://pastebin.com/WzQW5Gbz
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#1350 [15:16] <Kealper> haribo: can you describe a bit about the crash? does it happen consistently? does it happen randomly? did you use any client mods?
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#1352 [15:18] <haribo> i enchanted a sign then when i use it Minecraft crashes
#1353 [15:18] <tikker> Suspicious classes: ~~ERROR~~ NoClassDefFoundError: com/pclewis/mcpatcher/mod/TileOverride$1
#1354 [15:18] <tikker> but i doubt mcpatcher causes problems?
#1355 [15:19] <Kealper> tikker: uhh.. i've never used it so i can't give help for it
#1356 [15:19] <tikker> wait
#1357 [15:19] <Kealper> haribo: an... enchanted sign? lol
#1358 [15:19] <tikker> haribo enchatned a sign?
#1359 [15:19] <tikker> you mean with an anvil, rename it?
#1360 [15:20] <Lutzee> It is possible to assign enchantements to any item using the NBT tags now
#1361 [15:20] <tikker> did you do that haribo?
#1362 [15:20] <haribo> yes followed this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMbtvVnFGGU
#1363 [15:21] <Kealper> ehh
#1364 [15:21] <tikker> mcpatcher is a patch for HD texture packs, so it could be that by you enchanting the sign, you tried to place something te texturepack/mcpatcher can't render
#1365 [15:21] <tikker> therefore it crashes
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#1367 [15:21] <tikker> is what i think
#1368 [15:21] <tikker> try placing you sign again, but with a clean minecraft
#1369 [15:21] <Kealper> haribo: that would probably be your problem then... you are trying to enchant something that was never designed to be enchanted
#1370 [15:21] <haribo> yes
#1371 [15:21] <Kealper> haribo: my suggestion would be to just not enchant a sign again lol
#1372 [15:22] <haribo> ok
#1373 [15:22] <haribo> thanks
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#1375 [15:23] <tikker> lol
#1376 [15:23] <tikker> what would the sign do?
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#1378 [15:23] <tikker> set you on fire when placing it?
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#1382 [15:28] <Zyff> hi !
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#1385 [15:30] <jackalope> I need to contact someone at Minecraft/Mojang about why minecraft will not launch on my PC.
#1386 [15:31] <tikker> you can contact us :)
#1387 [15:31] <Zyff> have you the last java's update ?
#1388 [15:32] <jackalope> I've done everything man...
#1389 [15:33] <jackalope> Disabled AVG/ firewall/ tried deleting files under 'minecraft.net'
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#1393 [15:35] <Zyff> well i'm not use to be here and i also have a question to ask, a friend of mine, that don't speak english can't update minecraft without crashing, maybe the solution will work with your problem ...
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#1401 [15:47] <jackalope> Ya, mine does the same. Only it's the first time I've downloaded it.
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#1405 [16:01] <jackalope> I need to contact someone at Minecraft/Mojang about why minecraft will not launch on my PC.
#1406 [16:01] <jackalope> I've tried every trick in the book and still, no luck.
#1407 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> And what happens when you try?
#1408 [16:04] <jackalope> Freezes when t tries to launch
#1409 [16:04] <jackalope> it*
#1410 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Freezes how?
#1411 [16:05] <jackalope> When I hit UPDATE, the download stops at 'Downloading Packages', when I hit NOT NOW, it stops at Done Downloading...
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#1413 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Whereabouts does it freeze on Downloading packages?
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#1415 [16:08] <jackalope> UPDATE-1/8th mark
#1416 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Do you see it stopping on a specific file?
#1417 [16:08] <jackalope> No update-1/8th left to load
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#1419 [16:09] <jackalope> download stops at 'Downloading Packages', when I hit NOT NOW, it stops at Done Downloading
#1420 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried a force update through the launcher's options menu before logging in?
#1421 [16:11] <jackalope> Yes sir...
#1422 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> What antivirus do you use?
#1423 [16:12] <jackalope> I tried yelling curse words at my computer...that didn't help either.
#1424 [16:12] <jackalope> Norton.
#1425 [16:13] <jackalope> I've had other problems like this that were related to Norton, but they were easy to fix
#1426 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1427 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Operating system?
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#1429 [16:14] <jackalope> Windows 7
#1430 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Does your windows username happen to have a ! mark in it?
#1431 [16:16] <jackalope> I don't think so.
#1432 [16:16] <jackalope> How can I check, and what does that mean?
#1433 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu. In the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#1434 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Press enter.
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#1436 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Does the folder that it takes you to, have a ! mark in it
#1437 [16:20] <jackalope> No, it has my name with a lock icon next to it.
#1438 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Hmm..
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#1440 [16:22] <Zavec> I've noticed minecraft crashing in 1.4.4 within seconds whenever I'm in the nether, has anybody else experienced this or found a fix?
#1441 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Has occured when converting from an older version...
#1442 [16:23] <Zavec> Sorry, what do you mean?
#1443 [16:24] <Zavec> Oh, forgot to mention, this is on smp.
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#1445 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> If the world has been converted from an earlier version, this can occur..
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#1447 [16:24] <Zavec> I believe it was generated in 1.4.4
#1448 [16:24] <Storm1230> Any supoort members on that could help me?
#1449 [16:25] <Storm1230> support*
#1450 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> jackalope - Try:
#1451 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/reinst
#1452 [16:25] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1453 [16:25] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1454 [16:26] <Zavec> I've tried several times deleting all local files and redownloading before I came here, problem persists. Thanks though.
#1455 [16:26] <Storm1230> When someone can help me..
#1456 [16:26] <Storm1230> Let me know..
#1457 [16:26] <jackalope> Ya...I tried that too.
#1458 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> jackalope - Does it still ask you to update minecraft afterwards?
#1459 [16:27] <jackalope> Ya. Nothing has changed.
#1460 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Hrm... it shouldn't have.
#1461 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> are you checking the correct .minecraft folder? If you deleted it, it shouldn't see that there's any old files left over, and thus, wouldn't ask you to upgrade
#1462 [16:30] <jackalope> Do I need to clear it out of my recycle bin to actually delete it?
#1463 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1464 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1465 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. Inside, delete the bin and resource folders. Next, redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download
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#1467 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Launch the new minecraft launcher directly, then attempt to log in. It should not ask you to update.
#1468 [16:31] <jackalope> I have tried that 5 times.
#1469 [16:32] <jackalope> I'll gve it another go I suppose...
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#1471 [16:33] <Storm1230> Alright.. can anyone help me? :)
#1472 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1473 [16:34] <Storm1230> I have a question about purchasing a minecraft account
#1474 [16:34] <jackalope> sumbitch froze again, but it DIDN'T ask to update.
#1475 [16:34] <Storm1230> Can you help me?
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#1477 [16:35] <Storm1230> With that..?
#1478 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> jackalope - DOwnload freezes are typically the result of an overactive antivirus. Long shot, try uninstalling your AV
#1479 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Storm1230 - Could you be more specific?
#1480 [16:35] <Storm1230> Yes I can, I was wondering since I made a mojang account and wanted to purchase minecraft, it gives no option to choose my minecraft name? DOes it give me the option after I buy it?
#1481 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> jackalope - I can recommend MSE, microsoft security essentials, as a replacement.
#1482 [16:36] <jackalope> I'm gonna do it! Keep your fingers crossed.
#1483 [16:36] <jackalope> D I have to buy it...?
#1484 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Storm1230 - Exactly. Once you purchase minecraft, you'll see a Minecraft listing under your Mojang account's "Games" heading. There, you'll be able to set your display name in minecraft
#1485 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> jackalope - MSE is free
#1486 [16:36] <jackalope> Thanks bro.
#1487 [16:36] <Storm1230> Okay I was worried it would use my email or something
#1488 [16:36] <Storm1230> or my first name
#1489 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/security-essentials-download
#1490 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Storm1230 - You'll still use your email address to log into minecraft, but you'll have your minecraft username as your display name in-game
#1491 [16:37] <Storm1230> Okay thank you :)
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#1495 [16:42] <Assassin> Is anyone there?
#1496 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps
#1497 [16:43] <Assassin> Hah, ill take that as a yes
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#1499 [16:43] <Assassin> Do you think you could help with something? Seeing as this IS the help chat.
#1500 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> It's highly possible, considering we're #minecrafthelp.
#1501 [16:45] <Assassin> I use MCPatcher to patch mods onto Minecraft, but mose of the mods I find don't work. I don't know if it's because they just aren't compatable with MCPatcher, or what?
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#1504 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Right. Each time minecraft updates, MCpatcher, the community-made modding API, needs to update as well. With that, each dev that uses MCpatcher's API needs to update their mod to be compatible
#1505 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> If you're using a version of minecraft/mcpatcher/mod that doesn't match up, minecraft will barf out a crash.
#1506 [16:47] <Assassin> I understand, and every mod I want to download is updated to the current 1.4.5 patch. Same with my version of MCPatcher AND Minecraft. I already have a few mods like the popular Toomanyitems and an Elemental Arrows mod.
#1507 [16:48] <Assassin> But some of the mods I wanna download ARE up to date, but just aren't working
#1508 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> I don't really deal with mods all that much here. If you join #risucraft, and provide them with a report found in your .minecraft folder, under modloader.txt, somebody else may be able to determine whether or not the mods loaded, and why, if they did not.
#1509 [16:49] <Assassin> Alright, will do.Thanks for your time!
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#1514 [16:51] <tgj> I have created a mojang account for my con, but we cant get minecraft to run. We get "Failed to Launch" error message. any idea how to solve this?
#1515 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us the full error message?
#1516 [16:52] <tgj> Sorry, account for my son :)
#1517 [16:52] <tgj> OK, i'll try and run it again
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#1519 [16:54] <tgj> "Failaed to Launc" then line 2 is "Fatal Error Occured (4): null"
#1520 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Typically is caused by an antivirus.
#1521 [16:54] <tgj> My typing is rubbish today
#1522 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Could you temporarily disable it and run minecraft again to test?
#1523 [16:55] <tgj> Are we talking antivirus or firewall?
#1524 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Antivirus
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#1526 [16:55] <tgj> Is that the on-demand scanning bit?
#1527 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> I've seen it occur in AVG, avast, Avira, Norton..
#1528 [16:56] <tgj> I've got bit defender
#1529 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> I couldn't tell you. Different AVs have different scanning algorithms.
#1530 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Many times, the AV will flag minecraft as a false positive, preventing minecraft from downloading the appropriate files it needs.
#1531 [16:57] <Lutzee> Might want to try this http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1538747-fatal-error-occured-4-null-stopping-me-from-updating-to-142/
#1532 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hah
#1533 [16:57] <tgj> OK' I'll try disabling it. Can I identify it as a permitted application?
#1534 [16:57] <tgj> OK' I'll try disabling it. Can I identify it as a permitted application?
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#1536 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Check Lutzee's link there.
#1537 [16:58] <tgj> OK, thanks :)
#1538 [17:03] <tgj> Hi Again, Activated bit defender game mode and it loaded but I now get an error report. Not sure I can paste it in here.
#1539 [17:03] <tgj> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 22/11/12 22:00 -- System Details -- Details: Minecraft Version: 1.4.5 Operating System: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java Version: 1.7.0_09, Oracle Corporation Java V
#1540 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Looks like your video drivers are either outdated or they're unsupported
#1541 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag?
#1542 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> ??> tgj win/dxdiag
#1543 [17:04] <VoxelHead> tgj: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1544 [17:04] <VoxelHead> tgj: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1547 [17:07] <dominatorkellan> I am trying to log on to Minecraft but after I put in my login information I just get a black screen? Any ideas on what I can try?
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#1549 [17:08] <tgj> OK I think I did it right try: http://pastebin.com/5Qi7iNb6
#1550 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> tgj - Thank you, one moment
#1551 [17:09] <dominatorkellan> Is this link for me? I don't understand what I am to do with the information on this page?
#1552 [17:09] <dominatorkellan> I went to the page but???
#1553 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> dominatorkellan - That link is not for you
#1554 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> tgj - Go to: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/04/Product/dimension-3100
#1555 [17:10] <dominatorkellan> Thank goodness because I was really lost.
#1556 [17:10] <Lutzee> owow._.
#1557 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> tgj - Look at the bottom for "Video", then "Intel-driver" at the bottom. That's the video driver for your computer
#1558 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> tgj - Please download and install it. Then try minecraft
#1559 [17:11] <tgj> OK, thanks I'll let you know how I get on.
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#1563 [17:13] <tgj> Hi GreyVulpine, there are two intel drivers, recommended and optional. Do I need both?
#1564 [17:14] <Lutzee> get the reccomended one only
#1565 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> The optional one at the bottom. That appears to be the latest for the "82915G/GV/910GL" video chipset your comptuer has
#1566 [17:14] <Lutzee> Oh right
#1567 [17:15] * Lutzee should not asume
#1567 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> The recommended one is older, and does not appear to be the right video driver
#1568 [17:15] <tgj> OK. I should be able to undo the install if it messes up my system I guess?
#1569 [17:16] <tgj> Is there anything I should know about installing a video driver?
#1570 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Really nothing to it. Download, install. Monitor may flicker during install, it's normal. It should ask you to reboot afterwards.
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#1572 [17:19] <Roenie> what do you think would happen if a server had signs where you could get anything, unlimited supply, for free? a world with no scarcity
#1573 [17:19] <Roenie> would people get bored?
#1574 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> TNT, craters everywhere
#1575 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Enjoyment for maybe a day.
#1576 [17:19] <Roenie> what would happen after that day? ;)
#1577 [17:20] <Roenie> would something interesting happen, would they rethink it
#1578 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> If this was a public server, with PVP enabled, you would only have those types of people populating the server.
#1579 [17:20] <Lutzee> Depends if they have creative :P
#1580 [17:20] <Roenie> or just not come back
#1581 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> The other people who play cooperatively, would most likely not come back
#1582 [17:20] <Roenie> assume pvp is off
#1583 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Then griefers who revel in the enjoyment of undoing other player's progress would still outnumber the opposite side.
#1584 [17:21] <Roenie> assume that there are protected zones
#1585 [17:21] <Roenie> and each player can get their own
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#1587 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't really matter much, either you're overwhelmed by admin requests for undoing damage/banning/griefing/protecting different zones/overseeing land disputes..
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#1589 [17:23] <Nolan> I cant find my META-INF folder
#1590 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Nolan - It'll be in the minecraft.jar file inside the .minecraft/bin/ folder on your computer
#1591 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Open up minecraft.jar with a compression program of your choice.
#1592 [17:24] <Nolan> i dont have minecraft jar on my computer
#1593 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Roenie - ... or players will give up, and let the griefers take over.
#1594 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Nolan - Are you able to play minecraft on that computer?
#1595 [17:24] <Nolan> yes
#1596 [17:24] <Smanly> lol
#1597 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Nolan - Then you have minecraft.jar on the computer
#1598 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Nolan - What operating system?
#1599 [17:24] <Nolan> windows
#1600 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Nolan - What version?
#1601 [17:25] <Nolan> how do you find out?
#1602 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Icon in the bottom left corner. Start menu, or round button?
#1603 [17:25] <Nolan> round button with windows logo
#1604 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Then either you're using Windows Vista or 7.
#1605 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Both will have the same steps.
#1606 [17:26] <Nolan> ok
#1607 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Nolan - Go to your start menu. In the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1608 [17:26] <Nolan> next
#1609 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Find the .minecraft folder. It may be inside a "Roaming" folder. Go inside the bin folder
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#1611 [17:26] <Nolan> ok
#1612 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a file labled minecraft or minecraft.jar?
#1613 [17:27] <Nolan> on bin?
#1614 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Inside the bin folder, yes
#1615 [17:27] <Smanly> Why do people still use %appdata% when there is this? http://puu.sh/1tc29 That is much simpler.
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#1617 [17:28] <Nolan> minecraft executable jar file
#1618 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> <-- old school.
#1619 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Windows hides file extensions by default. With that window open, press your alt key. Go up to Tools at the top. Press Folder Options. Go to the "View" tab
#1620 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Uncheck "Hide file extensions for known file types"
#1621 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Press okay. Now look at the bin folder again. You should see minecraft.jar
#1622 [17:29] <Nolan> ok
#1623 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Do you see minecraft.jar?
#1624 [17:29] <Nolan> yes
#1625 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a compression program like Winrar, or 7zip, or..
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#1627 [17:30] <Nolan> or what
#1628 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> I can't think of any others at the moment.
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#1630 [17:30] <Nolan> no
#1631 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Download one. 7zip is free
#1632 [17:30] <Nolan> ok
#1633 [17:30] <tgj> Hello GreyVulpine
#1634 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Once you install 7zip, open up the minecraft.jar file with it. You'll see meta-inf inside
#1635 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> tgj - Hi.
#1636 [17:31] <tgj> Did the video card update, but still get the same error
#1637 [17:31] * __import__ is now known as __export__
#1638 [17:31] <Nolan> exe or msi
#1639 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Nolan - Either will work
#1640 [17:31] <Nolan> ok
#1641 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> tgj - Hmm. Alright then. Could you follow these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1642 [17:32] <Nolan> then what
#1643 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> That 915 may just be a little too old to run minecraft with default settings, those instructions will lower the memory requirement that minecraft uses slightly.
#1644 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Once you install 7zip, open up the minecraft.jar file with it. You'll see meta-inf inside
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#1648 [17:38] <tgj> OK, that seemed to work, what did it do? :)
#1649 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft normally launches with reserving a gig of RAM. That batch file lowers it to 256 megs. Integrated intel video chipsets do video acceleration by sharing/borrowing system RAM.
#1650 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Feel free to tweak the batch file to suit your needs.
#1651 [17:40] <tgj> So If I set it up with a link to the .bat file for my son he should be OK?
#1652 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#1653 [17:41] <tgj> But it won't run from the web browser?
#1654 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Only one way to find out. You can try running it from the web browser using minecraft.net/play
#1655 [17:41] <tgj> OK
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#1657 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> If it errors out, you'll need to use that .bat file, or find a different computer
#1658 [17:42] <Funtimekiller> What do I do when minecraft craches?
#1659 [17:43] <tgj> no, doesn't run in browser, but he will be happy if it runs at all :)
#1660 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> tgj - Sorry to hear that. Might be time to look into a new(er) computer. That one seems to be at least 6-7 years old.
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#1666 [18:00] <gh> when i try to download the demo i get this message: Failed to find accelertaed opne GL Mode. Mya be able to be fixed via update video card drivers. i have updated and no luck.
#1667 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Don't use windows update/device manager to update
#1668 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Give us a dxdiag please
#1669 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> ??> gh win/dxdiag
#1670 [18:00] <VoxelHead> gh: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1671 [18:00] <VoxelHead> gh: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1673 [18:03] <gh> when i type in windxdiag it says windows can't locate
#1674 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Type in: dxdiag
#1675 [18:05] <gh> what is the IRC channel
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#1677 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> You're in one.
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#1683 [18:35] <Narudura> Guys i have huge problem with Factions
#1684 [18:35] <Narudura> default players dont have any permissions from Factions plugin and they still can create a faction ! what should i do
#1685 [18:35] <Narudura> i dont want to let players create factions
#1686 [18:35] <Narudura> please answer me as soon as possible
#1687 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> Mods aren't dealt with here. I presume that you're dealing with a bukkit mod?
#1688 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> For bukkit-related stuff, go to the #bukkit channel
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#1694 [18:58] <gh> i posted demo download error message on pastebin.com. what do i do now
#1695 [18:58] <Lutzee> We need the link from the address bar
#1696 [18:59] <gh> from pastebin?
#1697 [18:59] <Lutzee> yes.
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#1700 [19:00] <gh> http://pastebin.com/
#1701 [19:00] <Lutzee> >.>
#1702 [19:00] <Lutzee> The link to your specific paste.
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#1704 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> or not
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#1706 [19:02] <gh> http://pastebin.com/W7zp6zRx
#1707 [19:05] <gh> lutzee here is my pastebin session re; problem with video card rivers on demo download http://pastebin.com/W7zp6zRx
#1708 [19:07] <Lutzee> gh: download nad install this driver http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails/Product/dimension-5100?driverId=R126542&osCode=ww1&fileId=2731114386
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#1713 [19:16] <gh> lutzee, any other ideas? i tried the downlaod to try to update the drivers and still won't help
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#1715 [19:17] <Lutzee> gh try following these instructions http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
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#1717 [19:19] <gh> ok will try and get back
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#1722 [19:22] <gh> lutzee can you send the pastbin link again re; bad driver fix
#1723 [19:22] <Lutzee> http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1724 [19:23] <Smanly> What does that do?
#1725 [19:24] <Smanly> -cp?
#1726 [19:24] <Lutzee> Classpath
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#1728 [19:25] <Lutzee> When launching the jar version via bat -cp decaires the required classpath, which you can see at the end
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#1737 [19:40] <gh> lutzee i followed the steps you sent and did not work again. any other ideas?
#1738 [19:40] <Lutzee> Er no, your Pc is too old.
#1739 [19:41] <gh> so would installing a new video card help
#1740 [19:41] <Lutzee> That would be a good idea
#1741 [19:41] <gh> in your opinion would that fix the problem
#1742 [19:42] <Lutzee> Yes, it will fix the problem
#1743 [19:42] <gh> ok thnaks for all yor help. i'll give it a shot
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#1749 [19:55] <Smanly> .cfg
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#1753 [20:00] <cozmo52> i had to reboot my computer to a date past when i got minecraft, now whenever i try to click the link it says: "UPDATING MINECRAFT" and then goes to black. how can i fix this?
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#1755 [20:01] <dingdong728> minecraft was deleted on my computer. is there a way to re-download it again.
#1756 [20:01] <Lutzee> minecraft.net/download
#1757 [20:02] <Lutzee> ??> cozmo52 forceupdate
#1758 [20:02] <VoxelHead> cozmo52: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1759 [20:02] <dingdong728> not the launcher the whole thing.
#1760 [20:02] <VoxelHead> cozmo52: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
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#1762 [20:02] <Lutzee> dingdong728: the launcher should download the game if it does not exist
#1763 [20:03] <dingdong728> thx
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#1766 [20:04] <cozmo52> @lutzee THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!! ITS WORKING NOW!!!!
#1767 [20:04] <Lutzee> >.>
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#1772 [20:13] <dingdong728> Thank you very much
#1773 [20:20] <NinjaKirby> ermahgerd kerrerts
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#1788 [20:56] <kebo> game keeps crashing when i attempt to login dont know if its the game, internet or what its worked plenty of times before
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#1795 [21:08] <xXFLAREXx> Not completely sure how to make a personal minecraft server. I need someone to call me and guide me step by step.
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#1797 [21:11] <NinjaKirby> The MinecraftWiki article is alright for setting up a Home server.
#1798 [21:16] <NinjaKirby> Mebbe not.
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#1804 [21:33] <xTsukuyomix> hello, i have a problem everytime i try loggin on a certain server i get a crash this is crash log, and only occur on a specifi server http://pastebin.com/EgrRkpTC
#1805 [21:34] <Roenie> hmm
#1806 [21:34] <Roenie> is the login server down right now
#1807 [21:34] <Roenie> or is it just me
#1808 [21:34] <simon3161> its down now
#1809 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> xTsukuyomix - Looks like a mod issue
#1810 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> !login
#1811 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/
#1812 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Login servers are up
#1813 [21:35] <xTsukuyomix> i dont have acces to server, which run on feed the beast mod pack.
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#1818 [21:42] <xTsukuyomix> so there is nothing i can do to fix the error, it seems to happen only on that server
#1819 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Try it unmodded?
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#1821 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Then remod from scratch
#1822 [21:46] <xTsukuyomix> i redowloaded the mod pack completly, and had same crash
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#1824 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure the server's running the mod? With the correct version?
#1825 [21:47] <xTsukuyomix> yes, it is runing feed the beast on same version as i am
#1826 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft Version: 1.4.2 ?
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#1828 [21:48] <xTsukuyomix> yes, with forge and other 35 mods
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#1831 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> I don't know then. I don't provide support for the FTB modpack. Try http://support.feed-the-beast.com/
#1832 [21:49] <XiPro> how do you fix my world when it doesn't load all the way and drops off
#1833 [21:50] <XiPro> its my survival map
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#1835 [21:53] <XiPro> if i delete my minecraft launcher does it delete all my saved stuff as well
#1836 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> No
#1837 [21:54] <XiPro> all my worlds are fine except for one that doesnt load all the way when i join how do i fix that
#1838 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Map corruption issues are hard to pin down.
#1839 [21:55] <XiPro> any ideas
#1840 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Might get lucky with MCedit. Load it up, there's a fix chunks option in one of the ctrl menus.
#1841 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#1842 [21:56] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#1843 [21:57] <XiPro> it just started when i logged on this morning is there anyway to delete what i did today
#1844 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#1845 [21:58] <XiPro> ok what one do i choose
#1846 [21:59] <XiPro> to download
#1847 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> On windows?
#1848 [21:59] <XiPro> ya
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#1850 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Then MCEdit_dev-0.1.6build320.win32.zip
#1851 [22:01] <XiPro> what does it do
#1852 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> It's a map editor
#1853 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/wiki
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#1855 [22:03] <XiPro> can i post a screenshot to show you
#1856 [22:03] <XiPro> whats happening
#1857 [22:03] <XiPro> or what it looks like
#1858 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> I suppose. Try www.imgur.com
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#1860 [22:07] <leigh589> I was trying to find out how to report a user who has been bullying me and my son?
#1861 [22:07] <XiPro> http://i.imgur.com/wAyCu.png?1 heres the link
#1862 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, that is not possible. Servers are independently-run. Mojang provides the server software, but they have no part in policing or administering the servers ran.
#1863 [22:08] <XiPro> grey did you get the link
#1864 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> I did.
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#1866 [22:09] <XiPro> did you check it out
#1867 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> That looks.. interesting.
#1868 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, I couldn't give you a reason as to why it did that.
#1869 [22:09] <XiPro> its not loading it just drops off to nothing
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#1871 [22:10] <leigh589> so even though he told me that he would find me and my son and report us ....... there is nothing I can do to protect ourselves
#1872 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately not.
#1873 [22:10] <XiPro> do you know who i can ask that could help me
#1874 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> XiPro - Not that I'm aware of.
#1875 [22:11] <XiPro> o
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#1877 [22:12] <leigh589> wow Not trying to be smart but I don't feel safe now......is there anyway he can trace us to get our personal information
#1878 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> There is not.
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#1880 [22:13] <leigh589> Thank you for the help .....I am just trying to make sure me and my family are safe from these kind of people.
#1881 [22:14] <XiPro> is there any other place that i could go on to ask for help
#1882 [22:14] <leigh589> JUst shows you can never trust servers that say they are family oriented
#1883 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> leigh589 - The only way to really be safe, is to run your own private server, and invite only the people that you know from real life.
#1884 [22:15] <leigh589> thank you
#1885 [22:15] * GreyVulpine nods
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#1886 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Really really hope they didn't use "leigh589" as a username
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#1901 [23:23] <supertoast> Hello. Is there any way to contact minecraft customer support?
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#1905 [23:32] <rfields> how do i add mods to a vanilla server
#1906 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> The vanilla server has no modding support
#1907 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> To have mods on a server, you'll need to look at bukkit or modloadermp
#1908 [23:33] <rfields> modloadermp? is that a site
#1909 [23:34] <rfields> or the mod
#1910 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> The mod
#1911 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Looks like it's stopped development around 1.3.2 though
#1912 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/ -- took its place.
#1913 [23:36] <rfields> what do i do with the mod it wont let me put it in
#1914 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I don't use either of them. I have no idea
#1915 [23:37] <rfields> oh i might be able to figure it out thanks for the help
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#1920 [23:48] <jojo123> hey my account was hacced
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#1922 [23:49] <jojo123> please i have 800 dallor donations on it
#1923 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> jojo123: Please read this article http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1924 [23:50] <jojo123> this isent i was on my other account taco900 and i saw him playing on it this is not a login issue
#1925 [23:51] <DiskDaemon> jojo123: Change your account password so that others don't know how to log in to your account
#1926 [23:51] <jojo123> my account was migrated and the password was changed
#1927 [23:52] <DiskDaemon> How would you like us to help then?
#1928 [23:52] <jojo123> cant you look in your data base for a certain e mail that it was once using
#1929 [23:52] <DiskDaemon> The people who provide help here don't work for Mojang, or have access to the databases or accounts
#1930 [23:53] <jojo123> :/ what can you do about migrated accounts
#1931 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> We celebrate migrated accounts - they are much more secure than the minecraft.net accounts
#1932 [23:55] <jojo123> ok would that do any thing to help me recive my account back ( sorry bad spelling)
#1933 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> If you read the article, you would have seen there's a link to contact Mojang proper, who can straighten out your issue for you.
#1934 [23:56] <jojo123> ok ill take a look
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