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#6 [00:20] <Mat> once i download and login, it shows the mojang sign then entire screen turns black
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#8 [00:22] <ashley> I tried to install a mod then minecraft crashed .
#9 [00:22] <Mat> so do you think that's what happened?
#10 [00:23] <ashley> Well that's basically what it said after I clicked login.
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#12 [00:23] <Mat> I'm doing this for my son actually :) and he said he didn't try to install a mod. Could it be anything else?
#13 [00:23] <purple> I cant install minecraft on my Mac
#14 [00:24] <ashley> It's definitely a mod. apparently this came up C:\Users\Ashley\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2012-11-25_00.16.04-client.txt
#15 [00:24] <ashley> Like there was a crash report .
#16 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> ashley - Go to your launcher. Press "Force Update" in the options menu, then log in
#17 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> purple - Says something about the archive being damaged?
#18 [00:25] <purple> yes
#19 [00:25] <ashley> Trying that right now.
#20 [00:25] <Mat> Ok I'll try it! Thank you!
#21 [00:25] <ashley> THAT WORKED
#22 [00:25] <ashley> THIS IS MAGIC OMFG
#23 [00:25] <ashley> OKay thank you GreyVulpine!
#24 [00:25] * GreyVulpine nods
#24 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> purple - Go here. Read this: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#25 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> purple - Turn gatekeeper to "Anywhere". Then redownload
#26 [00:26] <purple> ok will try THX
#27 [00:26] <ashley> Another question.
#28 [00:26] <ashley> So I tried to install a mod, but it didn't take effect.
#29 [00:27] <Mat> Can't get out of the black screen after I login. Help
#30 [00:27] <ashley> Did you happen to install a mod?
#31 [00:28] <Mat> No
#32 [00:28] <ashley> Try just restarting it.
#33 [00:29] <Mat> I did. Shutdown everything completely so many times but still not working.
#34 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> Has it ever worked before, Mat?
#35 [00:29] <Mat> Could I have gotten hacked?
#36 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> Nah
#37 [00:30] <Mat> Yes it's been working for many months then all of a sudden I can't play
#38 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Mat - What operating system?
#39 [00:32] <purple> thanks greyvulpine it worked!
#40 [00:32] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#40 [00:32] <purple> bye guys
#41 [00:32] <Mat> I'm doing this for my son and am not a gamer so you may need to help me out with some stuff!:) You mean like Windows? If so, we have Windows Vista
#42 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> Mat - I understand. Vista? Alright. Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#43 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Mat - Press enter. Find the .minecraft folder (it may be inside a roaming folder)
#44 [00:33] <Mat> K going to do that now
#45 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Inside the .minecraft folder, delete the bin and resource folders. Don't touch anything else. Then rerun minecraft
#46 [00:39] <ashley> I just tried to install Too Many Items mod did force update, and launched it, but it didn't take effect. Anyone know what might've happened?
#47 [00:42] <ashley> Anyone xD
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#49 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Force Update deletes the mod, and goes back to vanilla files.
#50 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> If you installed a mod and it black screens, either the mod is out of date, it was installed incorrectly, or it's conflicting with something else.
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#54 [00:50] <Mat> It keeps telling me a Java exception has occurred.?
#55 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> What's saying that Mat?
#56 [00:51] <Mat> when I click on the minecraft folder
#57 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
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#59 [00:55] <Mat> So I did the %appdata% then pressed enter. I clicked on the minecraft folder and that's what it said. I am an embarrassed mom right now that I'm even confusing you!! Damn game! :) I obviously didn't listen well in my computer courses. Do I click on the bin folder then? So sorry for the confusion.
#60 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> No. Go inside the .minecraft folder. You should see several folders inside.
#61 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Delete the folders named "bin" and "resources"
#62 [00:59] <Mat> Ok I found all that and deleted them both. Then I did the whole rerun stuff tried to login, it said it was updating some stuff so I thought it was going to be good then the screen went black again.
#63 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> Well, bah.
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#65 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Could you get us an error report by following one of the methods listed here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#66 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Log in, and when it gets to the black screen again, copy the contents of the log to www.pastebin.com and submit it. Then give us the URL so that we may read it
#67 [01:05] <Mat> ok give me a minute
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#70 [01:13] <dch41283> Would someone know how to fix a Failed to login problem?
#71 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> A "Login Failed" error on the launcher?
#72 [01:15] <dch41283> Failed to login: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect
#73 [01:15] <dch41283> yes
#74 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Ah, when trying to connect to a server?
#75 [01:15] <dch41283> correct
#76 [01:15] <dch41283> any server
#77 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Means either the ip address you're entering in is incorrect, or there's no server running at that ip address
#78 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Try the server: s.nerd.nu
#79 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Or mc.allgamer.net
#80 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Pretty sure both of those are up.
#81 [01:16] <AG_Clinton> mc.allgamer.net is online.
#82 [01:17] <dch41283> not even that server
#83 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> mc.allgamer.net is giving you the same error?
#84 [01:18] <dch41283> yes
#85 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> How about s.nerd.nu?
#86 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> !check mc.allgamer.net
#87 [01:19] <dch41283> can't connect to s.nerd.nu server it Can't reach server
#88 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> !check s.nerd.nu
#89 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, doesn't look like reddit's s.nerd.nu server is running
#90 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> But mc.allgamer.net is up.
#91 [01:19] <AG_Clinton> I just connected.
#92 [01:19] <AG_Clinton> Works fine from here.
#93 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#94 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> dch41283 - Are you running the latest MC?
#95 [01:20] <dch41283> yes but it still giving me the Failed to login: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect and yes i am running the 1.4.5
#96 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Huh...
#97 [01:21] <dch41283> i did a clean install of the game
#98 [01:21] <dch41283> this whole thing started 2 months ago
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#100 [01:22] <AG_Clinton> Do you have a firewall or antivirus installed?
#101 [01:23] <dch41283> have all the ports open on the windows firewall and the router
#102 [01:24] <AG_Clinton> Try temporarily disabling the firewall.
#103 [01:24] <AG_Clinton> Make sure Minecraft is added as an exception as well.
#104 [01:24] <dch41283> i have Kaspersky Anti-Virus
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#108 [01:28] <Mat> C:\Windows\system32>"C:\Program Files/Java/jre7/bin/java" -Xms1G -Xmx1G -cp "C:\ Users\Mark\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\*" -Djava.library.path="C:\Users\Mark\ AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft The system cannot find the path specified. C:\Windows\system32>pause Press any key to continue . . .
#109 [01:29] <Rikairchy> 0.0
#110 [01:29] <Rikairchy> so Mat
#111 [01:30] <Rikairchy> just try java -jar minecraft.jar
#112 [01:30] <Rikairchy> to see if it'll work barebones
#113 [01:42] <Mat> Rikairchy, I'm a mom trying to help my son so you're going to have to be more specific with the lingo.:) How do I just try java -jar minecraft.jar Sorry....
#114 [01:43] <Rikairchy> ah
#115 [01:43] <Rikairchy> understandable
#116 [01:43] <Rikairchy> I can post screenshots to help, if you'd like
#117 [01:43] <Mat> Sorry Rikairchy, I'm doing this for my son. So how do i just try java -jar minecraft.jar, I need specific instructions
#118 [01:43] <Rikairchy> okay
#119 [01:44] <Rikairchy> it might be a lot quicker to use a program called Teamviewer
#120 [01:44] <Rikairchy> its a remote support program which allows me to use your computer and fix it as if I were right in front of it
#121 [01:44] <Mat> See I'm even copying the same messages! Ugh
#122 [01:44] <Mat> K just tell me what you want me to do :)
#123 [01:45] <Rikairchy> ??> Mat teamviewer
#124 [01:45] <VoxelHead> Mat: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#125 [01:45] <VoxelHead> Mat: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#126 [01:46] <Mat> K I'm at the website. Just download it now?
#127 [01:46] <Rikairchy> yes
#128 [01:48] <Mat> Do I install it or just run it?
#129 [01:48] <Rikairchy> run it
#130 [01:48] <Rikairchy> that's all you'll need
#131 [01:48] <Rikairchy> now when it gets to this: http://puu.sh/1u2Vi
#132 [01:49] <Rikairchy> do not say the password in the main chan
#133 [01:49] <Rikairchy> use /notice Rikairchy <password>
#134 [01:49] <Rikairchy> where <password> is the 4 numbers
#135 [01:51] <Mat> K I see the 4 numbers and it says allow remote control. Do I put in a partner ID?
#136 [01:52] <Rikairchy> yes
#137 [01:52] <Rikairchy> wait no
#138 [01:52] <Rikairchy> give me your ID
#139 [01:52] <Rikairchy> it'll say "Your ID: xxx xxx xxx"
#140 [01:53] <Mat> 255 305 839
#141 [01:53] <Rikairchy> now type /notice Rikairchy pin
#142 [01:53] <Rikairchy> instead of pin, put the four numbers
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#144 [01:56] <Rikairchy> do you see?
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#146 [01:56] <hunter_> it
#147 [01:56] <Mat> well kinda, do I put that in the partner ID area?
#148 [01:57] <Rikairchy> no
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#150 [01:57] <hunter_> it will not open after the majomg screen and locks my computer
#151 [01:57] <Rikairchy> all you do is type in /msg Rikairchy fournumbers
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#153 [01:57] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/1u34N
#154 [01:57] <Rikairchy> like that ^
#155 [01:58] <Mat> Omgosh! I'm so sorry. Where do I type it? Right here?
#156 [01:58] <hunter_> is there a trick to opening minecraft?
#157 [01:58] <Rikairchy> yes
#158 [01:58] <Rikairchy> hunter_: open the launcher. click options, then force update
#159 [01:59] <Mat> 3140
#160 [01:59] <hunter_> it did the update but locks up after the majong screen?
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#164 [02:09] <Rikairchy> this is odd
#165 [02:09] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 are you around?
#166 [02:17] <Mat> yes i'm here
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#173 [02:30] <Nubre> Hello
#174 [02:31] <Nubre> Guys i just bought the game and when i login and try to play a singleplayer i get stuck where i spawned, i can turn and destroy cubes but i cannot move, im just like half jumping in place, anyone?
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#176 [02:34] <Nubre> Okay, I just bought a new computer. Everything runs great except for Minecraft. When I open a world my character bounces up and down and can't move
#177 [02:34] <Nubre> anyone?
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#181 [02:41] <Nubre> anyone?
#182 [02:41] <Nubre> Okay, I just bought a new computer. Everything runs great except for Minecraft. When I open a world my character bounces up and down and can't move
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#194 [02:59] <Dlem1> this is off topic i know, but is there a youtube troubleshooting channel?
#195 [03:00] <Dlem1> or a youtubr
#196 [03:00] <Dlem1> crap
#197 [03:00] <Smanly> Troubleshooting MC issues?
#198 [03:00] <Dlem1> or a youtube channel at all?
#199 [03:00] <Smanly> Not an official one.
#200 [03:01] <Smanly> I know there are plenty of videos out there.
#201 [03:01] <Dlem1> once again crap
#202 [03:01] <Smanly> That is a good idea though... hmm....
#203 [03:02] * Dlem1 sighs
#203 [03:02] <Smanly> Whats your issue?
#204 [03:03] <Dlem1> trying to figure out if i can use youtube on andriod
#205 [03:03] <Smanly> O.o?
#206 [03:03] <Dlem1> 2.1
#207 [03:03] <Smanly> Whats that to do with MC?
#208 [03:04] <Dlem1> this is the only channel i know of thats public enough to ask
#209 [03:05] <Smanly> wat
#210 [03:05] <Smanly> #minecraft
#211 [03:05] <Smanly> If anything.
#212 [03:05] <Smanly> There is probably a channel for pretty much anything
#213 [03:05] <Smanly> I bet #android
#214 [03:06] <Smanly> Nevermind....
#215 [03:06] <Dlem1> hmmm...
#216 [03:06] <Dlem1> nope?
#217 [03:06] <Smanly> But almost anything...
#218 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> There's a youtube app on the Android/Google Play store
#219 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> See if your device is compatible with it
#220 [03:06] <Dlem1> yeah... no
#221 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> Then, I doubt it
#222 [03:07] <Smanly> Then go to the mobile site?
#223 [03:07] <Dlem1> i personally dont think thatd work
#224 [03:07] <Dlem1> and i tried the mobile site
#225 [03:07] <Smanly> and?
#226 [03:08] <Dlem1> no... just... no
#227 [03:08] <Smanly> k
#228 [03:08] <Dlem1> i tried difer
#229 [03:08] <Dlem1> ...ent browsers
#230 [03:09] <Dlem1> opera: is no compat
#231 [03:09] <Dlem1> dolphin: no apps support
#232 [03:09] <GreyVulpine> Opera or Opera mini?
#233 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> There's no flash support on Opera Mini, but there is on Opera
#234 [03:10] <Dlem1> default: takes me to blank page
#235 [03:11] <Dlem1> opera full
#236 [03:11] <Dlem1> to answer yourr question
#237 [03:12] <Dlem1> i would try boat browser but all that is. is a ripoff of opera
#238 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> And chrome?
#239 [03:15] <Smanly> Only for ICS
#240 [03:15] <Smanly> I believe.
#241 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> Oroo?
#242 [03:16] <Dlem1> you cant get chrome for 2.1
#243 [03:16] <Dlem1> 4.0+
#244 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> Well bah
#245 [03:17] * Dlem1 sighs in sorrow of not beinng able to play youtube on his tablet
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#246 [03:18] <Smanly> 2.1 tablet?
#247 [03:18] <Smanly> Oh
#248 [03:19] <Dlem1> yerp
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#250 [03:19] * Dlem1 screams "no"
#250 [03:20] <Dlem1> no
#251 [03:20] <Dlem1> no no no
#252 [03:20] <Dlem1> jk
#253 [03:21] <Dlem1> uugghh
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#255 [03:23] <Dlem1> {/-_-\}
#256 [03:24] <Dlem1> hey uh wwhat command do u use to cbange nicknames
#257 [03:24] <Dlem1> change*
#258 [03:26] <Dlem1> Smanly do u know what command u change ur nick. w/?
#259 [03:26] <Smanly> /nick
#260 [03:26] <Smanly> I know
#261 [03:26] <Smanly> Confusing.
#262 [03:26] <Dlem1> oh
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#298 [05:25] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: yes
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#322 [06:48] <Gurkenglas> Can you make an underground village by curing a zombie villager and bringing him undergronud via snowballs/fishing rods?
#323 [06:48] <Gurkenglas> (Do you need two to start up a village?)
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#327 [06:55] <Dachs> Hey Togehter, some German people here. I have a Problem with my Minecraft Server.
#328 [06:57] <Andrio> What problem are you having?
#329 [06:59] <Dachs> I get a this Warning Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#330 [06:59] <Dachs> and than i cant join the server.
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#333 [06:59] <Andrio> Maybe that computer you're running the server on can't handle it..
#334 [07:00] <Dachs> This warning. comes First time Today. Yesterday i have play on it.
#335 [07:00] <Andrio> Try restarting the server; see if that helps at all.
#336 [07:01] <Dachs> I have do it. But it dosent Help
#337 [07:01] <Dachs> I dont Use Plugins ore somthing else.
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#340 [07:03] <Dachs> and the Warning comes only when i load my normal world. when i create a new world it runs
#341 [07:03] <Bobmarlyguy> I have a receipt and bought premium but it says im not
#342 [07:03] <Bobmarlyguy> Hello????????
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#344 [07:04] <Bobmarlyguy> Hello, I have premium but I cant log in
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#349 [07:05] <Bobmarlyguy> I have a premum problem
#350 [07:05] <Gurkenglas> Cant you use an invisibility potion to turn any bossfight into a farce?
#351 [07:06] <Bobmarlyguy> I cant log in even though I have premium
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#359 [07:26] <DiskDaemon> Steve Gibson is helping to educate about the 5.*.*.* network space this week on his Security Now podcast
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#361 [07:31] <Morrolan> Hah, if what Wikipedia says is true, then that guy is still stuck with floppies. :P
#362 [07:31] <Morrolan> "Gibson is an advocate of assembly language programming, and prides himself on writing smaller applications mostly in Intel x86 assembly language, including much of the code of the SpinRite hard disk utility used from the beginning of the PC era. He is one of several advocates of optimizing computer programs and reducing the size of their executables"
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#364 [07:37] <DiskDaemon> He's also on the leading edge of encryption and password security in general
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#367 [07:47] <Teezzeret> Can my friend and me upload a video on youtube?
#368 [07:49] <Teezzeret> ??
#369 [07:49] <Teezzeret> ??
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#372 [07:56] <Ramen> Hey =]
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#384 [08:37] <Panos> Mojang i have problem
#385 [08:38] <Panos> I have minecraft server and i have make a map but some 1 Steal my map(coppy paste) and use my server name..
#386 [08:38] <Panos> What i can do?
#387 [08:40] <Morrolan> We're not Mojang, and Mojang has no control over other servers anyway.
#388 [08:41] <Necrodoom> how exactly does someone copy pastes a map off a server?
#389 [08:41] <Andrio> Mods.
#390 [08:41] <Panos> I don't know
#391 [08:41] <Necrodoom> Panos: basically, nothing can be done, mojang doesnt control anyone's server
#392 [08:42] <Panos> So..
#393 [08:42] <Panos> ?
#394 [08:42] <Necrodoom> talk with the copycat server owner
#395 [08:42] <Necrodoom> pretty much
#396 [08:42] <Morrolan> Just ignore it. *shrug*
#397 [08:42] <Panos> Yes,but he stole my members..
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#399 [08:42] <Necrodoom> <Necrodoom> talk with the copycat server owner
#400 [08:42] <Morrolan> Why? Your members will connect to your server's IP, and he can't steel that one.
#401 [08:43] <Panos> he send New (name server) Ip join
#402 [08:43] <Necrodoom> he sent what?
#403 [08:43] <Panos> New server ip
#404 [08:43] <Morrolan> He spammed his server's IP in chat.
#405 [08:43] <Necrodoom> ban him
#406 [08:43] <Necrodoom> done
#407 [08:43] <Panos> I have ban him
#408 [08:43] <Necrodoom> so everything is fixed
#409 [08:44] <Panos> And first of all he have stolen my map
#410 [08:44] <Panos> i make it... and he stole
#411 [08:44] <Morrolan> Yes, that's mean, but none can do anything about it.
#412 [08:44] <Panos> This isn't good
#413 [08:44] <Necrodoom> Panos: mojang isnt your private army
#414 [08:44] <Necrodoom> servers arent owned by mojang
#415 [08:44] <Necrodoom> they cant, and wont do anything
#416 [08:45] <Necrodoom> take it up with that guy, tell him to stop, etc
#417 [08:45] <Morrolan> (And tell your members not to believe some random dude who claims that the server's on a new IP)
#418 [08:45] <Panos> I can't go him to police?
#419 [08:46] <Morrolan> You can try.
#420 [08:46] <Panos> The map is mine idea
#421 [08:46] <Morrolan> Would sure be a unique case.
#422 [08:46] <Necrodoom> i- lol
#423 [08:46] <Necrodoom> Panos: your map isnt your property, you know
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#425 [08:47] <Necrodoom> you didnt copyright it either
#426 [08:47] <Panos> its mine copyright
#427 [08:47] <Morrolan> Eh, each building would be the intellectual property of the one who built it, if he didn't copy it from somewhere, I guess.
#428 [08:47] <Necrodoom> Panos: yeah? you bought a copyright?
#429 [08:47] <Morrolan> You don't need to buy copyright.
#430 [08:47] <Panos> no...
#431 [08:47] <Morrolan> Copyright is automagically on everything you create.
#432 [08:47] <Necrodoom> if so, mojang can sue you
#433 [08:48] <Necrodoom> maps are a part of minecraft code
#434 [08:48] <Morrolan> Yes, but the *buildings* are not.
#435 [08:48] <Rocketman> What does it mean when I have this error! Internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read Timed Out
#436 [08:48] <Necrodoom> Morrolan: they are done using minecraft code
#437 [08:48] <Morrolan> Rocketman - Connection loss, for some reason.
#438 [08:48] <Rocketman> Is it common?
#439 [08:48] <Andrio> Or a really laggy server
#440 [08:48] <Morrolan> Necrodoom - A piece of art is done with colours bought from someone too, yet it doesn't belong that someone.
#441 [08:48] <Rocketman> and if so how do I fix it?
#442 [08:49] <Morrolan> Rocketman - Serverlists which check whether your server is online tend to leave such messages, if they're done improperly.
#443 [08:49] <Panos> Necrodoom is my copyright i think how to build it! So its mine copyright and he stole it
#444 [08:49] <Rocketman> ok
#445 [08:49] <Morrolan> Rocketman - If it happens to actual players, then it could be an issue on your, or their side. Firewall, bad connection etc.
#446 [08:49] <Rocketman> ok thanks
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#448 [08:49] <Necrodoom> Panos: anyway, good luck trying to go to police with it
#449 [08:49] <Necrodoom> id imagine it would make up that cop's day
#450 [08:50] <Panos> I will tr!
#451 [08:50] <Morrolan> Panos - Just tell your players not to believe random people spamming IPs, and ban anyone who does spam random IPs, and..
#452 [08:50] <Morrolan> you should be fine.
#453 [08:50] <Necrodoom> "I WANT TO SUE THAT GUY! HE STOLE MY DIGITAL BLOCKS!"
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#455 [08:51] <Madakos> hello mojang
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#457 [08:52] <Morrolan> *cough*
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#459 [08:53] <Necrodoom> Morrolan: anyway, as far as i remember, copyrights are much different on digital stuff than physical
#460 [08:53] <Morrolan> No expert there, but I do know that I don't need to add a "copyright by xyz" line for something to be copyrighted.
#461 [08:53] <Morrolan> (E.g. code)
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#463 [08:54] <Morrolan> With digital paintins it'll be similar to physical paintings I suppose. As for something created in a game, I honestly don't know. *shrug*
#464 [08:54] <Necrodoom> i remember quite a few game copyrights that include that everything made using the company's tools (eg: halo 1 map editor) are considered company property
#465 [08:55] <Morrolan> Mhm, but I'm not sure if that would actually be considered correct *if* one were to go to court.
#466 [08:55] <Morrolan> Minecraft has something similar with mods, I believe.
#467 [08:55] <Necrodoom> yeah
#468 [08:56] <Necrodoom> everything using mojang code is considered mojang's
#469 [08:56] <Morrolan> Eh, if I had a few spare years (and would be interested in it) I'd go study law just so I could say something smart during those discussions. ;)
#470 [08:56] <Necrodoom> so maps also use mojang code, pretty much
#471 [08:56] <Necrodoom> while on buying a physical products, you also buy the right to use it as you wish
#472 [08:56] <Necrodoom> most of the time
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#475 [09:07] <Necrodoom> .lof
#476 [09:07] <Necrodoom> .log
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#482 [09:31] <trencheel303> Nedrodoom, depends what physical products you're talking about
#483 [09:31] <trencheel303> if you buy a CD or movie on a disc, you are still legally bound by many terms
#484 [09:33] <Necrodoom> trencheel303: meant stuff like morro's example, paint brush n stuff
#485 [09:33] <Necrodoom> not digital storage
#486 [09:33] <Necrodoom> er
#487 [09:33] <trencheel303> i see
#488 [09:33] <Necrodoom> storage for digital stuff*
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#496 [09:49] <Ajmac> Hi, I've just downloaded mind craft and its coming up with a black screen!! Anyone help?
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#504 [10:16] <Iocusta> can't break blocks with tools or with blocks. Only with my solo hand I can break some
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#537 [12:08] <Ogredude> hey can you set the max height to higher than 255? And if you do this in server.properties on an existing world will it take effect at the next server restart?
#538 [12:08] <Ogredude> we need a little more Y over here
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#544 [12:24] <concon> hi i have made a minecraft account with my email but i dont know where to find my user name can u help ??
#545 [12:25] <jamyson> Why does minecraft not work without memory
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#547 [12:25] <concon> hi i have made a minecraft account with my email but i dont know where to find my user name can u help ??
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#549 [12:26] <concon> ??
#550 [12:26] <concon> ??
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#554 [12:29] <concon> hi i have made a minecraft account with my email but i dont know where to find my user name can u help ??
#555 [12:30] <concon> hi i have made a minecraft account with my email but i dont know where to find my user name can u help ??
#556 [12:30] <concon> hi i have made a minecraft account with my email but i dont know where to find my user name can u help ??
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#560 [12:34] <kiugetski> check your mail
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#563 [12:35] <hakan> I bought minecraft for about 1 hour ago .When you can log on and start playing?
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#565 [12:36] <kiugetski> instantly
#566 [12:38] <hakan> When I try to logon i get, faild try again
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#576 [13:01] <obi_wan> When I try and connect to a server, my minecraft gets stuck on "downloading terrain". Any ideas?
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#579 [13:03] <obi_wan> ??
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#581 [13:04] <Morrolan> Does it happen with one specific server only, or with...
#582 [13:04] <Necrodoom> !
#583 [13:04] <Morrolan> any.
#584 [13:04] <Necrodoom> Morrolan: happens to me a lot
#585 [13:04] <Morrolan> Heh.
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#587 [13:08] <Jhwarby> Hey guys, I've downloaded Optifine for Minecraft 1.4.5, and when I start up Minecraft, it goes black.
#588 [13:08] <Jhwarby> If there's a log that someone could direct me to I'd be happy to give it to you
#589 [13:08] <Necrodoom> ?? mods
#590 [13:09] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#591 [13:09] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#592 [13:09] <Jhwarby> Bukkit of tiny.cc?
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#594 [13:09] <Jhwarby> or*
#595 [13:09] <Necrodoom> wat
#596 [13:09] <Morrolan> Neither, contact the mod's creator.
#597 [13:09] <Jhwarby> Which one do I go on?
#598 [13:09] <Jhwarby> ...
#599 [13:09] <Jhwarby> Do they have an IRC?
#600 [13:10] <Necrodoom> you downloaded the mod, not us
#601 [13:10] <Morrolan> No clue. Just try whether #optifine exists. If not, then, well, they probably don't.
#602 [13:10] <Calinou> doesn't iirc
#603 [13:10] <Morrolan> Before you contact anyone though, make sure you a) removed the meta-inf folder and b) that the mod is even compatible with your version of Minecraft.
#604 [13:10] <Jhwarby> Hmm
#605 [13:10] <Jhwarby> Forgot about the META-INF
#606 [13:10] <Jhwarby> Maybe that'll fix it.
#607 [13:11] <Jhwarby> I seem to be making the noobiest mistakes...
#608 [13:11] <Morrolan> Do you want me to confirm, or negate it?
#609 [13:11] <Jhwarby> Thanks a lot bro, it works fine now.
#610 [13:11] <Jhwarby> :D
#611 [13:12] <Morrolan> ;)
#612 [13:13] <Jhwarby> You must be some kind of genius. I couldn't see water before even with Optigfine, and it works now.
#613 [13:13] <Jhwarby> Optifine*
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#615 [13:13] <Jhwarby> -bows
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#617 [13:13] <Jhwarby> What does META-INF even mean?
#618 [13:13] <Jhwarby> Metaphorical Infertility?
#619 [13:13] <Jhwarby> O_O
#620 [13:14] <Jhwarby> I vote no ^^
#621 [13:14] <Morrolan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAR_(file_format)#Design -> second paragraph
#622 [13:14] <Morrolan> Actually, the fourth one.
#623 [13:15] <martinba> Is the MInecraft Demo currently working? I registered a Mojang account, and downloaded the Minecraft.exe launcher, but cannot login with the Mojang account email+passwd. (Although this: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/823771-launcher-login-error-w-mojang-account tells me to use the mojang account email to login.)
#624 [13:15] <Morrolan> Now when a file is modified, the checksums don't match anymore, which Java detects, and in return refuses to launch the game.
#625 [13:15] <Angostura> Greetings Minecraft mavens. I'm just trying to see whether my daughter might be interested in Minecraft but I'm having trouble getting the demo to do anything. On a Mac 10.7.5, Safari latest, Java installed. The applet loads (after certtificate warnings) says it is updating Minecraft and downloads many components. Then …. nada
#626 [13:15] <Angostura> Anything I should be checking?
#627 [13:15] <lukegb> Nothing at all?
#628 [13:15] <Morrolan> martinba - Uh, there once was an issue where the downloadable version of the demo only works if the player already has a premium account, you might want to try the web-based one, since I'm not sure whether that got fixed.
#629 [13:16] <martinba> @Morrolan - is the web-based version the same as the Demo?
#630 [13:17] <martinba> You see, I have played the game before, and wouldn't actually need a demo to try it out, but it makes me wary to pay for something where the supposedly working Demo isn't working.
#631 [13:17] <Morrolan> martinba - Yes, the one on www.minecraft.net/play is identical to the one you download from www.minecraft.net/download
#632 [13:18] <Angostura> martinba: having the same issues
#633 [13:18] <martinba> @Morrolan - ah, ok so I'll try the online version for a few mins to see whether I'll shell out the moneys.
#634 [13:18] <Morrolan> martinba - I've just tried it with a non-premium account, and the one on www.minecraft.net/play seems to work.
#635 [13:18] <Jhwarby> In 3 minutes, you managed to find a non-premium account and play some of minecraft on it?
#636 [13:19] <Morrolan> I've registered one some time ago. ;)
#637 [13:19] <Jhwarby> ^.^
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#639 [13:19] <Morrolan> Angostura - Uh, it would be helpful to open the Java console, so we see whether it spits out any error messages. I'm not really sure where to find that on a Mac, though.
#640 [13:20] <martinba> OH MY!
#641 [13:21] <Morrolan> Does this mean "yay it works" or "oh no, it ate my dog"?
#642 [13:21] <martinba> I had my Java plugin for Firefox disabled ... no wonder I wasn't seeing anything on minecraft.net/play (although it'd be nice if the site were able to tell me that :-)
#643 [13:21] <Morrolan> Oh, heh.
#644 [13:22] <Jhwarby> Herpa derpa.
#645 [13:23] <Morrolan> I'll be semi-afk, just idle here for a few minutes, and someone else should help you further. (Provided anyone is still stuck somewhere)
#646 [13:24] <martinba> Well I still can't login to the Demo via the Minecraft.exe launcher, but 'tleast I minecraft.net/play is working now that I enabled the Java FF plugin :-)
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#656 [13:41] <carnevalla> Hi there, does anybody know, if there's a way to prevent maps of being drawn? So that it stays blank, when you look at it.
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#667 [13:54] <Epicty> Anyone want to help me?
#668 [13:54] <Epicty> oh
#669 [13:54] <Epicty> LOL
#670 [13:55] <Epicty> Okay how do I find my minecraft username
#671 [13:55] <Epicty> if when I register it doesnt let MAKE a username
#672 [13:56] <DreadLindwyrm> Epicty: It should be the name you chose when you bought it?
#673 [13:58] <Epicty> Wait
#674 [13:58] <Epicty> you have to buy the game
#675 [13:58] <Epicty> before you make a username
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#677 [14:01] <DreadLindwyrm> Hold on:- where are you trying to register?
#678 [14:01] <Epicty> On Minecraft.net
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#680 [14:01] <DreadLindwyrm> This page? : https://account.mojang.com/register?agent=minecraft
#681 [14:02] <Epicty> I HAVE registered but never had the option to make a username LOL
#682 [14:02] <Epicty> thank u
#683 [14:02] <Epicty> ill look at it
#684 [14:02] <Epicty> Yup
#685 [14:02] <Epicty> When I try on Minecraft.net it says "you are ready to play!"
#686 [14:02] <Epicty> Because google chrome saved my pass
#687 [14:03] <Epicty> Is there a register page on it ?
#688 [14:04] <DreadLindwyrm> minecraft.net has a "register" link.
#689 [14:04] <DreadLindwyrm> It's how I got to the one I gave earlier.
#690 [14:05] <DreadLindwyrm> Although, if chrome saved your details it should log you in automatically.
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#692 [14:05] <DreadLindwyrm> If not, have you tried looking things up in your mail? It should have sent you your details when you registered initiailly.
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#697 [14:13] <HannahJ> can someone help me? i just got a new laptop and when i tried to download the game it says i haven't paid for minecraft but i bought it ages ago!? what do i do??
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#699 [14:14] <rymate1234> where did you buy minecraft from
#700 [14:14] <rymate1234> what is your minecraft username
#701 [14:14] <HannahJ> the minecraft website
#702 [14:14] <Epicty> I havent bought MC yet
#703 [14:14] <HannahJ> hannah_johns5
#704 [14:14] <Epicty> my username is I dont have one yet
#705 [14:14] <rymate1234> !paid hannah_johns5
#706 [14:14] <rymate1234> Epicty, not talking to you
#707 [14:14] <Epicty> Im asuming i have to buy the game
#708 [14:14] <Epicty> to get my name
#709 [14:14] <Epicty> oh
#710 [14:14] <rymate1234> Epicty, correct
#711 [14:14] <Epicty> LOL
#712 [14:15] <HannahJ> i bought it about 2 years ago
#713 [14:15] <rymate1234> !status
#714 [14:15] <rymate1234> uh
#715 [14:15] <rymate1234> !login
#716 [14:15] <rymate1234> Ok, it isn't the login server's
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#718 [14:15] <rymate1234> !paid rymate1234
#719 [14:15] <rymate1234> !paid hannah_johns5
#720 [14:16] <HannahJ> what does that mean?
#721 [14:16] <rymate1234> it checks whether that username has paid
#722 [14:16] <rymate1234> I have paid for minecraft
#723 [14:16] <HannahJ> ok
#724 [14:17] <rymate1234> It seems to be having problems with your user tho
#725 [14:17] <rymate1234> idk why
#726 [14:17] <HannahJ> do you know how i can find out?
#727 [14:17] <HannahJ> i dont wanna have to buy it again :o
#728 [14:18] <NinjaKirby> Erm, it's not because the Username involves an unusual character does it? Like, the Under_score
#729 [14:18] <rymate1234> nope
#730 [14:18] <rymate1234> shouldn't be
#731 [14:18] <NinjaKirby> Fair enough, I heard that caused trouble in some instances.
#732 [14:18] <HannahJ> im logged in to the website fine, it just says i need to buy the game
#733 [14:19] <rymate1234> HannahJ, then for some reason you haven't brought the game
#734 [14:19] <HannahJ> but i have ha ha
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#736 [14:20] <rymate1234> but that exact username hasn't
#737 [14:21] <HannahJ> does it work with email addresses?
#738 [14:21] <rymate1234> No
#739 [14:21] <rymate1234> Not that I know
#740 [14:21] <rymate1234> lemme try
#741 [14:21] <rymate1234> !paid supermarioryan@gmail.com
#742 [14:21] <rymate1234> (don't spam me)
#743 [14:21] <rymate1234> No, doesn't work with usernames
#744 [14:21] <rymate1234> *email addresses
#745 [14:22] <rymate1234> HannahJ, are yousure you brought the game from minecraft.net
#746 [14:23] <rymate1234> ?
#747 [14:23] <HannahJ> i managed to fix it, i had 2 accounts on my email address, one premium and the other not
#748 [14:23] <rymate1234> lmao
#749 [14:23] <HannahJ> not sure why they sent me my non premium log in details
#750 [14:23] <HannahJ> thanks for your help!!!!!
#751 [14:23] <rymate1234> welcome :P
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#754 [14:24] <Roenie> i see lines between surface blocks especially mid to far distance and at long distance they cause a moiré effect
#755 [14:24] <Roenie> anyone know what causes this?
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#758 [14:25] <rymate1234> Roenie, toggle advanced opengl
#759 [14:25] <rymate1234> afaik that fixes i
#760 [14:25] <rymate1234> *it
#761 [14:25] <Roenie> it doesn't for me ;/
#762 [14:26] <Roenie> <Roenie> i see lines between surface blocks <-- i mean a line between each row of blocks, so i see lots of parallel lines
#763 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> white outlines between block?
#764 [14:27] <Roenie> yes but they appear white on distant water
#765 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> caused by enabling AA in your video card settings
#766 [14:27] <Roenie> black on sand
#767 [14:27] <Roenie> aa is off
#768 [14:27] <rymate1234> Roenie, disableAA
#769 [14:27] <Roenie> windowed mode if that makes a difference
#770 [14:27] <Roenie> mc crashes in fullscreen mode, no idea why
#771 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure it's off?
#772 [14:28] <Roenie> yes
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#774 [14:28] <Roenie> ccc is not enforcing anything
#775 [14:28] <rymate1234> maybe update graphics drivers
#776 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> this is very common behavior is AA is forced on
#777 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> if aa*
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#779 [14:30] <Roenie> oh i had aniso filtering forced on, sorry about that
#780 [14:30] <Roenie> lol
#781 [14:30] <rymate1234> lol
#782 [14:30] <Roenie> swithing that off fixes it
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#784 [14:30] <Roenie> i still get some moiré at long distance but consider it fixed
#785 [14:30] <Rikairchy> I've got an issue of my own now
#786 [14:31] <Rikairchy> every so often, everything in my MC window flickers
#787 [14:31] <Rikairchy> is replaced with sky blue
#788 [14:31] <Rikairchy> only for about half a second
#789 [14:31] <Rikairchy> but its irritating
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#793 [14:32] <rymate1234> what did he do o.o
#794 [14:32] <Smanly> wut
#795 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> ban evasion.
#796 [14:33] <rymate1234> olol
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#798 [14:34] <Roenie> Rikairchy, if you are running windowed/automatic resolution
#799 [14:34] <Roenie> try choosing the reso manually instead
#800 [14:34] <Rikairchy> the GUI scaling?
#801 [14:35] <Roenie> no
#802 [14:35] <Roenie> i noticed mc turns blue when i rezize the window
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#804 [14:35] <Rikairchy> so how do I manually set the rez?
#805 [14:36] <Roenie> video settings?
#806 [14:36] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/1ueRk
#807 [14:36] <Rikairchy> not seein it
#808 [14:36] <Roenie> prolly because fullscreen is off
#809 [14:37] <Roenie> i wonder if going fullscreen and choosing the res would fix it
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#811 [14:37] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/1ueSe
#812 [14:37] <Roenie> if not it's probably a plugin/mod
#813 [14:37] <Rikairchy> err
#814 [14:37] <Rikairchy> I've got modloader and Rei's minimap
#815 [14:37] <Rikairchy> but in full screen
#816 [14:37] <Rikairchy> no option to change res
#817 [14:37] <Roenie> it's in the loader
#818 [14:38] <Rikairchy> ?
#819 [14:38] <Roenie> sorry i misread
#820 [14:38] <Roenie> i use magic launcher
#821 [14:38] <Roenie> that lets me change res
#822 [14:38] <Roenie> i can't change it in the mc menu
#823 [14:39] <Roenie> i assumed you don't use that launcher, therefore you can choose res in mc
#824 [14:39] <Roenie> apparently not
#825 [14:41] <Roenie> bit chaotic soz, doing 2 things at the same time
#826 [14:41] <Roenie> configuring server
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#831 [15:12] <Mustard> I am trying to register another user but am not receiving my email confirmation message from Mojang. I have confirmed that my email service is operational, am receiving other messages, nothing in spam folder, and confirmed with my ISP that no messages have been bounced back. In short, looks like I never received the email confirmation message. What can I do?
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#840 [15:46] <Product> Hey guys
#841 [15:46] <Product> you still rollin?
#842 [15:46] <Product> does anyone remember me?
#843 [15:46] <Product> I remember you allll
#844 [15:46] <Eddie> Even me?
#845 [15:47] <Product> nope xD
#846 [15:47] <Product> you're new
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#848 [15:47] <Eddie> Am I?
#849 [15:47] <Product> I used to visit this channel a lot.
#850 [15:47] <Product> oldroot is here?
#851 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Hasn't been around for a while.
#852 [15:47] <Eddie> I am a Product of your imagination.
#853 [15:47] <Eddie> Hah see what I did there?
#854 [15:47] <Product> Hahaha he helped me a lot xD
#855 [15:47] <Product> Yess xD
#856 [15:47] <Product> I see :P
#857 [15:48] <Product> Grey, 1 question
#858 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes Product?
#859 [15:48] <Product> You really don't get paid for doing this?
#860 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> I really don't get paid for doing this
#861 [15:48] <Product> You've been here for ages man.
#862 [15:48] <Product> You're always there when someone needs you.
#863 [15:49] <Product> My theory is that you are a super good and smart programmed bot.
#864 [15:49] <Product> Okay no xD
#865 [15:49] <Product> Nice to see you :D
#866 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> You know my secret now. I'm a bot.
#867 [15:49] * GreyVulpine waves
#867 [15:49] <Morrolan> A bot which flinches when poked? :D
#868 [15:49] <Product> Hahahaha YOU ARE! xD
#869 [15:49] <Product> see you guys :P
#870 [15:49] <Product> heyyy Morrolan
#871 [15:49] <Morrolan> Uh, hello. :D
#872 [15:50] <Product> do you guys remember Product?
#873 [15:50] <Product> or you're just like, bleh whoz that noob
#874 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> We remember you.
#875 [15:50] <DiskDaemon> A lot has changed here over the past year
#876 [15:50] <Morrolan> Do you actually want an honest answer on that?
#877 [15:51] <Product> Awwww
#878 [15:51] <Product> thank you grey :D
#879 [15:51] <Product> Yes please Morrolan xD
#880 [15:51] <Morrolan> Well, I can only speak for myself, but I don't remember you. ;)
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#882 [15:52] <Product> I know that Morrolan, we didn't really know each other
#883 [15:52] <Product> still nice to meet you :)
#884 [15:53] <Morrolan> So it would seem.
#885 [15:53] <Product> See you guys xD
#886 [15:53] <DiskDaemon> See you next year :)
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#888 [15:56] <DiskDaemon> Okay that's it, I just lost a toenail - I'm going to have to cut them more frequently than just twice a year
#889 [15:56] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon, that is one of those things the channel does not care about. :<
#890 [15:57] * GreyVulpine blinks
#890 [15:58] <Morrolan> Dragon Age Origins + AddOn + 9DLC for 8.99, the AddOn without anything else: 9.99
#891 [15:59] <Morrolan> Someone at Steam failed his math course.
#892 [15:59] <Boreeas> Maybe it's just a really good deal
#893 [15:59] <Morrolan> Yea, but it just looks rather silly.
#894 [15:59] <Morrolan> I want the addon, so I'll just buy this pack.
#895 [16:00] <DiskDaemon> You don't even have to give them all your money - it's a great deal
#896 [16:00] <Morrolan> Heh.
#897 [16:00] <Morrolan> I wonder what'll happen with the surplus games. I suppose they'll vanish.
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#899 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Orcs must die 2, $3.74. Two-pack, $9.99
#900 [16:01] * GreyVulpine nods to himself
#900 [16:01] <Morrolan> Wha... no, there's a new entry in my games library now, called "Dragon AGe Origins Ultimate Edition"
#901 [16:02] <Morrolan> Heh.
#902 [16:03] <Morrolan> Well, we'll see just where those two games will be installed to now, and whether I'll have to move some savegames around.
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#905 [16:12] <Ogredude> huh
#906 [16:12] <Ogredude> so apparently ice doesn't melt the same way it used to, or something
#907 [16:13] <Ogredude> I just filled my lake with ice block, popped glowstone all over the place on top... and it melted the top blocks but the rest of the lake is still full of ice
#908 [16:13] <Ogredude> I'm in a desert, too
#909 [16:14] <Ogredude> well, whatever, it's filling with water correctly as I'm breaking ice blocks
#910 [16:16] <DiskDaemon> Yeah, don't fill the lake with ice blocks. Instead, place a layer of dirt 1-below the surface of the water, then fill that surface with water, and remove the dirt
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#913 [16:17] <DiskDaemon> Now that you have a lake full of iceblocks, it looks like you're going to have to go swimming for a while busting them all up
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#915 [16:18] <oldtopman> heh
#916 [16:18] <Corntotheholio> New to Minecraft, thinking of getting the Pocket edition for Android. Can I have two separate user accounts, one for me and one for my kid?
#917 [16:18] <Smanly> On android?
#918 [16:18] <DiskDaemon> Corntotheholio: Yes you can, all it requires to achieve that is paying for two accounts
#919 [16:18] <Corntotheholio> So do I need to pay for an account in addition to the $7 to download the pocket edition?
#920 [16:19] <Smanly> There arent accounts. Its just the game.
#921 [16:19] <Ogredude> DiskDaemon: I'll try that method on the other one
#922 [16:19] <Smanly> What another account be for, Corntotheholio?
#923 [16:19] <Corntotheholio> Trying not to be dense - if I buy two $7 versions of the Android game, then two people can keep their worlds separate?
#924 [16:19] <DiskDaemon> That's a good question. The android version is developed by a separate company, so I think that it's one Android device per account
#925 [16:20] <Smanly> Well... no.
#926 [16:20] <Smanly> Its just like anyother android app.
#927 [16:20] <Corntotheholio> From what I can tell, the game autosaves when you exit a world. I guess that implies only one saved game is possible at time on the device.
#928 [16:21] <Smanly> You can have multiple saved levels.
#929 [16:21] <Ogredude> DiskDaemon: making aquariums on the capitol building :) http://d.pr/i/l04k
#930 [16:22] <Corntotheholio> Ah. Okay. So that my kid and I can keep our levels (or worlds) distinct?
#931 [16:22] <Smanly> Yeah, you can name them.
#932 [16:22] <Smanly> Altough, there is nothing keeping him from accessing your level.
#933 [16:22] <Corntotheholio> Oh, cool. Then just pick which one to load and we're good?
#934 [16:22] <Smanly> yeah.
#935 [16:23] <Corntotheholio> No problem if she accesses it. She's more worried about me messing up hers. =)
#936 [16:23] <Smanly> Lol. Then you should be fine.
#937 [16:24] <Corntotheholio> Great! Thanks for helping out a n00b.
#938 [16:24] <Smanly> Np.
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#954 [16:56] <techno156> Hm.. 1.4.5 now?
#955 [16:56] <techno156> I haven't played/been on in a while :P
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#959 [17:14] <TimTimTJP> Yo, my minecraft was working like, yesterday, then when i logged on today, it "failed to start". WTF happened?
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#961 [17:15] <Arceus3251> mods hate me
#962 [17:16] <Arceus3251> I used a mod installer and got this
#963 [17:16] <Arceus3251> http://pastebin.com/zC6B2dsm
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#965 [17:16] <DiskDaemon> Arceus3251: Looks like something is using the wrong version
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#967 [17:16] <Arceus3251> *slaps self
#968 [17:17] <Arceus3251> I was using wrong modloader T_T
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#971 [17:22] <TimTimTJP> Anyways, I have windows 7 with an up-to-date driver, no mods, no texture packs, up-to-date java, most recent minecraft version, full-paid account. No other apps/games are malfunctioning on my computer. I you'd like, I can post the full error report and i don't know what to do now. My MC was working fine yesterday.
#972 [17:23] <TimTimTJP> *if
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#974 [17:24] <TimTimTJP> can someone help?
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#978 [17:25] <TimTimTJP> Anyways, I have windows 7 with an up-to-date driver, no mods, no texture packs, up-to-date java, most recent minecraft version, full-paid account. No other apps/games are malfunctioning on my computer. I you'd like, if can post the full error report and i don't know what to do now. My MC was working fine yesterday.
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#981 [17:33] <justsumdude> does anyone know how i can plat multiplayer on my xbox version of minecraft???
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#986 [17:36] <justsumdude> it says its a multiplayer game, im just tryin to play with my son, he loves it, help would b great...
#987 [17:37] <justsumdude> anyone???
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#989 [17:37] <Finamenon> wait patiently for someone who actually knows to answer
#990 [17:37] <Finamenon> or try google
#991 [17:38] <Finamenon> no one here is paid to help
#992 [17:38] <justsumdude> then y is this minecrafthelp lol
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#998 [17:41] <MrTubs95> hey guys i need some help
#999 [17:41] <Extreme> ya
#1000 [17:42] <MrTubs95> let me know when somebody can answer my question
#1001 [17:42] <Extreme> Just say it
#1002 [17:44] <MrTubs95> i went to make another minecraft account and it was different, so i verified my account and registered but it never gave me an option to make a username, so when i went to buy the game itself, it still didn't ask and i didnt want to pay because it didnt let me give myslef a username lol i dont know if i worded that good or not
#1003 [17:45] <Extreme> What method did you use to buy?
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#1010 [17:52] <nikolasstoilov> I bought Minecraft and it doesnt work anymore
#1011 [17:52] <Extreme> Do you have a Mojang account?
#1012 [17:53] <Extreme> You need to buy it from there.
#1013 [17:53] <nikolasstoilov> I already have an account
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#1015 [17:53] <Extreme> https://account.mojang.com/me/intro
#1016 [17:53] <Extreme> Login and visit that link
#1017 [17:54] <nikolasstoilov> okay
#1018 [17:54] <unimatrix> can someone teach lydia that texas and chicago are not diffirent countries
#1019 [17:54] <unimatrix> geez
#1020 [17:54] <unimatrix> what a mistake to make
#1021 [17:54] <nikolasstoilov> Yes i have minceaft
#1022 [17:54] <unimatrix> netherlands and holland are also not dif countrie
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#1024 [17:56] <Extreme> Niko, your mojang account username is your minecraft username
#1025 [17:56] <Extreme> nevermind...
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#1027 [18:01] <techno156|School> Anyone have the MC changelog?
#1028 [18:02] <Extreme> Minecraft Wiki
#1029 [18:02] <Extreme> one sec
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#1031 [18:04] <Extreme> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#1032 [18:04] <techno156|School> ok
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#1035 [18:07] <techno156|School> I'm running 1.4.2 and my bows always enchant "Power I" :|
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#1038 [18:07] <techno156|School> That's odd...
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#1043 [18:13] <jayjay> I cannot download or play minecraft. i just get a black screen after logging in.
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#1045 [18:13] <hamster_man96> I need some help.
#1046 [18:13] <hamster_man96> Anyone here?
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#1053 [18:21] <MrTubs95> i went to make another minecraft account and it was different, so i verified my account and registered but it never gave me an option to make a username, so when i went to buy the game itself, it still didn't ask and i didnt want to pay because it didnt let me give myslef a username lol i dont know if i worded that good or not, im back! sorry i left
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#1056 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> It should have asked you to make a minecraft username when you purchased minecraft
#1057 [18:22] <Lucas> So, i bought Minecraft today about 3 hours ago, and i´ve selected "I´d like to buy this game for myself" and it says under the choice: "A redemption link will be sent to "my e-mail" The problem is that i did not recieved the e-mail until now, what´s happening? is my money "flying away"? Please help-me!
#1058 [18:22] <DiskDaemon> Go to https://account.mojang.com/me and if you have paid, and don't have a username, you will have the option to create one there
#1059 [18:23] <MrTubs95> nope, it didnt
#1060 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> MrTubs95 - Try logging into your mojang account at the link that DiskDaemon gave you
#1061 [18:23] <jen> I have a problem failure to launch with fatal error occurred (4): /Users/test/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#1062 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> jen - Press Command+shift+g to bring up the Go To Folder prompt
#1063 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> jen - Type in exactly: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#1064 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> jen - Go inside, delete the bin and resource folders, then run minecraft again
#1065 [18:24] <Lucas> So, i bought Minecraft today about 3 hours ago, and i´ve selected "I´d like to buy this game for myself" and it says under the choice: "A redemption link will be sent to "my e-mail" The problem is that i did not recieved the e-mail until now, what´s happening? is my money "flying away"? Please help-me! sorry for the bad english
#1066 [18:25] <Lucas> someone knwos what is happening?
#1067 [18:25] <Lucas> knows*
#1068 [18:25] <DiskDaemon> Lucas: What did you use to attempt the payment?
#1069 [18:25] <MrTubs95> there is no where to log in on there?
#1070 [18:25] <jen> I have a mac would that be in the library/application support/minecraft/bin???
#1071 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> jen - No. Follow my instructions exactly
#1072 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> jen - There's more than one Library folder on a mac
#1073 [18:26] <Lucas> sorry, dond understand your question DiskDaemon
#1074 [18:26] <Lucas> dont*
#1075 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> MrTubs95 - https://account.mojang.com/login
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#1077 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> MrTubs95 - There's a Login link at www.mojang.com in the upper right corner
#1078 [18:26] <DiskDaemon> Lucas: What method of payment was used by you and you were purchasing Minecraft?
#1079 [18:26] <MrTubs95> im already logged in
#1080 [18:27] <mikey94> how do I open minnecraft
#1081 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> mikey94 - By downloading the launcher from http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1082 [18:27] <Lucas> visa
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#1084 [18:27] <DiskDaemon> Lucas: Where was the visa obtained from?
#1085 [18:27] <Anon> what
#1086 [18:27] <Lucas> the country?
#1087 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Anon - Hi.
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#1089 [18:28] <DiskDaemon> Lucas: Which store?
#1090 [18:28] <MrTubs95> what do i do once i have logged in grey
#1091 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Lucas - Which Bank? Is it a credit card? Debit Card? pre-paid?
#1092 [18:28] <Guest58135> what is this
#1093 [18:28] <Lucas> i don´t know, cause its from my father, but i think it is a debit card
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#1095 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> MrTubs95 - Look at My Account, or My games.
#1096 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> There should be a Minecraft heading there to get to your minecraft panel.
#1097 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> There, you'll see how to enter in your minecraft username
#1098 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> Lucas: It's possible that the bank is blocking the overseas payment until you authorise them to do so - please contact your bank
#1099 [18:29] <Lucas> hmm ok
#1100 [18:29] <MrTubs95> im only trying to make a new user, i already have the game and a user, just wanted a second
#1101 [18:30] <Lucas> thanks for the help DiskDaemon
#1102 [18:30] <Lucas> ^^
#1103 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> There's only one user per minecraft account
#1104 [18:30] <jen> Thank you GreyVulpine it works now!! Yeah
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#1107 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> jen - Happy to help
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#1109 [18:31] <MrTubs95> grey?
#1110 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> MrTubs95 - There's only one user per minecraft account
#1111 [18:31] <MrTubs95> what do you mean?
#1112 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> You can only make one username per minecraft premium account
#1113 [18:32] <MrTubs95> how can you only make one?
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#1115 [18:32] <MrTubs95> wait
#1116 [18:32] <MrTubs95> i get what your saying
#1117 [18:33] <Arceus3251> http://pastebin.com/eyx8TtL6
#1118 [18:33] <MrTubs95> if i wanted to get another user name i would have to pay 26.95, i know but when i go to buy it doesnt ask for me to enter a username?
#1119 [18:33] <Arceus3251> I think in a future update u can change ur user name free
#1120 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Arceus3251 - Herobrine/modloader/forge-equipped server?
#1121 [18:34] <Arceus3251> what?
#1122 [18:34] <MrTubs95> where did you hear that at arceus?
#1123 [18:34] <Arceus3251> the update?
#1124 [18:34] <MrTubs95> where!
#1125 [18:35] <Arceus3251> A minecraft forum that is REALLY good
#1126 [18:35] <MrTubs95> ok, nvm
#1127 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Arceus3251 - in response to your pastebin error report there
#1128 [18:35] <Arceus3251> ok what is it?
#1129 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Looks like a modloader/forge mod issue.
#1130 [18:37] <Arceus3251> it doesn't require forge
#1131 [18:37] <Arceus3251> and I have modloader
#1132 [18:37] <MrTubs95> grey!
#1133 [18:37] <Arceus3251> although the crash comes like every 5 or ten minutes
#1134 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> MrTubs95 - I don't exactly understand your question here. You can purchase one minecraft premium account per mojang account. You can only register one Minecraft username per Mojang account.
#1135 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> MrTubs95 - In order to purchase minecraft again (and to register a new minecraft username) you would need to register a new Mojang account, with a new email address.
#1136 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> There's a limit of one Minecraft account per email address, and thus, Mojang account
#1137 [18:40] <MrTubs95> so when i buy minecraft, (which i already have one) i buy it off of mojang, then when i buy it will it ask me to make a username, because it says "confirm and pay" before it says anything about a username
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#1139 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, I don't know then. You should not be able to purchase minecraft again on your account, if you already have minecraft.
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#1141 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Unless you're purchasing a gift code for somebody else.
#1142 [18:43] <MrTubs95> i registered, and where my username should be is my email address, then when i click "buy now" it takes me to mojang to buy the game where you enter all of your info and your card numbers, then you click confirm and pay, with the thing not asking you for a username?
#1143 [18:43] <MrTubs95> i was just wondering why it isnt asking
#1144 [18:47] <MrTubs95> so?
#1145 [18:49] <MrTubs95> are you still here?
#1146 [18:51] <MrTubs95> :(
#1147 [18:52] <MrTubs95> dern it, anybody here anymore?
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#1154 [19:17] <tyler> I am new to minecraft and would like to have the elemental creepers mod installed into my game on a mac but not sure how to do it. I have minecraft 1.4.5, help?
#1155 [19:23] <Lutzee> ?? mods
#1156 [19:23] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1157 [19:23] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1160 [19:25] <tyler> Thank you I will try that my son is asking for this and I do not know much about computers....
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#1174 [19:53] <Alucard> anyone help me i just started a server with the exe and i cannot destroy blocks in it
#1175 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Either move away from spawn or op yourself
#1176 [19:56] <Alucard> any good textures addons?
#1177 [19:56] <Alucard> around
#1178 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_Packs
#1179 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/41-texture-packs/
#1180 [19:57] <Alucard> ok i see the setting now it is set to 16
#1181 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecrafttexturepacks.com/
#1182 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> http://www.curse.com/texture-packs/minecraft
#1183 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> https://www.google.com/search?q=texture+packs+minecraft
#1184 [19:58] <Alucard> anyones you would suggest
#1185 [19:58] * GreyVulpine uses vanilla.
#1185 [19:58] <Alucard> ok cool
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#1188 [20:01] <Alucard> any good admin gui's out there
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#1190 [20:01] <Alucard> so i can use it along with the exe
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#1192 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> http://www.mcmyadmin.com/
#1193 [20:02] <Alucard> you guys are great
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#1213 [20:29] <dillpikl> i downloaded a mod and now whenever i try to type a command, mincraftcrashes...what should i do?
#1214 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Force Update
#1215 [20:30] <dillpikl> *minecraft crashes
#1216 [20:30] <dillpikl> how do i do that?
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#1218 [20:32] <dillpikl> hello?
#1219 [20:33] <dillpikl> i downloaded a mod and now whenever i try to type a command, mincraft crashes...what should i do?
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#1222 [20:34] <NinjaKirby> Hehe, he keeps trying.
#1223 [20:34] <dillpikl> what?
#1224 [20:34] <NinjaKirby> Just observing the autoban on kiugetski
#1225 [20:34] <NinjaKirby> auto ban? wat
#1226 [20:35] <dillpikl> ok...im really confused
#1227 [20:35] <NinjaKirby> You seem to be suggesting the mod has broken Minecraft to some degree. Revert to your backup Minecraft.jar (that I'm sure you made), and attempt reinstalling follow the mod installation instructions.
#1228 [20:36] <NinjaKirby> *Following
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#1230 [20:37] <dillpikl> ok...i feelstupid asking but how do i revert to my backup Minecraft.jar, i remember making it but i dont know how to revert to it
#1231 [20:38] <NinjaKirby> Delete your current modified one, and rename your backup to the original name.
#1232 [20:38] <swiz> I just bought mindcraft for my mac and can't open the file, it says the file is damaged or can't be opened, you should move it to the trash
#1233 [20:39] <NinjaKirby> I'm gambling the mod you installed only involved the .jar
#1234 [20:39] <dillpikl> where do i find the original and backup on my computer
#1235 [20:40] <NinjaKirby> ??> swiz mac/gatekeeper
#1236 [20:40] <VoxelHead> swiz: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#1237 [20:41] <NinjaKirby> Swiz: It's possible this could fix it, if Mac claims it is corrupt or broken, then it's worth trying what Voxelhead said.
#1238 [20:41] <swiz> that did not work, I got the same error
#1239 [20:42] <NinjaKirby> I have to admit, I wasn't expecting Voxel to describe that method.
#1240 [20:43] <swiz> any other ideas?
#1241 [20:43] <NinjaKirby> ?? mac/.minecraft/lion
#1242 [20:43] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft/lion: Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#1243 [20:43] <NinjaKirby> Whoa, okay, don't do that
#1244 [20:44] <NinjaKirby> Ignore Voxel on that one, lol
#1245 [20:44] <dillpikl> sry to but in but why?
#1246 [20:44] <swiz> how about rm -rf *
#1247 [20:44] <Lutzee> ?? mac/gatekeeper/documentation
#1248 [20:44] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper/documentation: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
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#1251 [20:46] <NinjaKirby> Ya think it's still Gatekeeper at play, Lutzee?
#1252 [20:46] <Lutzee> Wasn't reading, only saw you pull up gatekeeper
#1253 [20:47] <dillpikl> hey...ninjakirby never seemed to answer my question...where do i find the original and backup that i made
#1254 [20:47] <Lutzee> The mac damaged this is most definately gatekeeper
#1255 [20:47] <NinjaKirby> lol, fair enough
#1256 [20:47] <swiz> that fixed the problem, thans a bunch
#1257 [20:47] <NinjaKirby> Dillpikl: It would be where ever you chose to put it :/ If you just copy/pasted the JAR, then it should be in the .minecraft/bin folder
#1258 [20:48] <NinjaKirby> It would have to be User created (done manually), not automated by Minecraft though.
#1259 [20:49] <NinjaKirby> Or Windows for that matter.
#1260 [20:49] <NinjaKirby> If you don't have a backup, I guess Force Update would start a clean, Vanilla version.
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#1274 [21:09] <dillpikl> alright ninjakirby...i tried and tried but i just couldnt get it so how do you force update?
#1275 [21:11] <dillpikl> i feel stupid cuz this is probly all really easy but im just not that tech savy
#1276 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png
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#1278 [21:19] <dillpikl> it worked...thanx a bunch ;)
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#1280 [21:20] <simtharkun> hii! After 5 minutes of playing my computer crash...can anyone help me? (sorry for my bad english im french)
#1281 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin.com your error report
#1282 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Give us the URL so that we may read it
#1283 [21:21] <simtharkun> im talking about playing minecraft and after 5 minutes my screen go black and have to reboot my computer
#1284 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> And we need an error report
#1285 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Look for a file named hs_err_pid that generates when minecraft crashes
#1286 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin.com that and give us the URL
#1287 [21:23] <simtharkun> where can i found that file in my computer?
#1288 [21:24] <DiskDaemon> simtharkun: You'll find it in the same place where you saved it
#1289 [21:25] <simtharkun> i didnt save any error report
#1290 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> Oh, the hs_err_pid file, should be on the desktop
#1291 [21:26] <Lutzee> And hs_err_pid files will be found where the launcher is, for most people that is on the desktop
#1292 [21:26] <DiskDaemon> simtharkun: If you're looking for the minecraft crash report, it should be in the .minecraft/crash-reports/ folder
#1293 [21:26] <simtharkun> ok ill check
#1294 [21:30] <simtharkun> dont have crash-reports in my .minecraft folder... its strange, in the past years everthings was fine, but this week when the game as upgrade, i can open my minecraft server for 3 days and everyone can connect and play but when i log in, after 5 minutes my screen go on sleep mode and at the same time my friends told me that the server was down at the same time but my computer still on but i have to reboot myself
#1295 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#1298 [21:34] <simtharkun> ctcp??? (sorry i tried two method to retrieve a game crash report and dont work
#1299 [21:34] <Lutzee> ignore that
#1300 [21:36] <simtharkun> seem to be something really rare so ill reinstall my windows maybe its my computer... very strange
#1301 [21:36] <simtharkun> thanks a lot
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#1307 [21:48] <Lopan> I've been running a server with "Generate structures" off, now I realize I'd like it on, but how far out (blocks wise) do I have to venture from places I've already visited in my world before new areas generate and therefore start creating dungeons and Mob spawners?
#1308 [21:48] <ethan> why can't i get the verification email to play
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#1311 [21:52] <Lutzee> Lopan: the world generates up to just past far render distance so not that far, ~128 black i think it was
#1312 [21:57] <Lopan> thank you
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