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#2 [00:05] <skier12> when i try to get o to a friends server this message appears: Internal exception : java.net.socketexception: connection reset
#3 [00:06] <Andrio> Is your Minecraft client up to date?
#4 [00:06] <skier12> yes
#5 [00:06] <Andrio> Is their server up to date?
#6 [00:06] <skier12> yes
#7 [00:08] <Andrio> Can other people join their server?
#8 [00:08] <skier12> yes
#9 [00:09] <Andrio> Can you join the server at 11s.nerd.nu ?
#10 [00:10] <skier12> how do I do that?
#11 [00:11] <Andrio> 12Multiplayer -> 12Direct connect -> 11s.nerd.nu
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#13 [00:12] <skier12> message: end of stream
#14 [00:12] <Andrio> What antivirus software do you have?
#15 [00:13] <skier12> I have McCafe secure and java that all I know of
#16 [00:14] <skier12> McAfee
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#18 [00:19] <skier12> hello?
#19 [00:20] <SirCmpwn> I finished that little program for setting up minecraft on crappy computers
#20 [00:20] <SirCmpwn> http://www.mediafire.com/?79n41nbnqd3kd8q
#21 [00:21] <Andrio> skier12, can you turn your firewall off and try joining again?
#22 [00:21] <SirCmpwn> also creates a handy info.txt that can be given to savvy people to get more information
#23 [00:21] <SirCmpwn> code: https://gist.github.com/641656775cc2c8c968c4
#24 [00:22] <SirCmpwn> GreyVulpine: crappy computer minecraft installer: http://www.mediafire.com/?79n41nbnqd3kd8q and code: https://gist.github.com/641656775cc2c8c968c4
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#26 [00:28] <skier12> ok
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#31 [00:41] <awesomeguy1> when I to create an account I never see some where to make a username.... how do I make a user name?
#32 [00:42] <Andrio> You do that when you buy Minecraft
#33 [00:42] <awesomeguy1> ohhh got it
#34 [00:42] <awesomeguy1> ohhh got it
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#49 [01:25] <lewisviper> Hello everyone
#50 [01:26] <SirCmpwn> woo webchat
#51 [01:26] <lewisviper> I am seeing if there is a graphical bug error in the recent MC release, the server I run everyone has noticed lag graphically in a certain area nothing has changed
#52 [01:26] <lewisviper> lol
#53 [01:27] * JTR|BlackOps is now known as JTR
#54 [01:27] <SirCmpwn> try opening the world in mcedit and recalculating lighting
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#56 [01:28] <lewisviper> ahhh Sir how would I go about the Recalculating part
#57 [01:28] <SirCmpwn> change some blocks there and save it
#58 [01:28] <SirCmpwn> I don't remember if there's an actual means of just forcing a lighting recalculation
#59 [01:29] <lewisviper> is this because allot has been built and there is allot of light sources and it needs to recalculate that
#60 [01:29] <SirCmpwn> a lot*
#61 [01:29] <SirCmpwn> you didn't give much information
#62 [01:29] <SirCmpwn> I'm just guessing that the problem could be lighting
#63 [01:29] <lewisviper> are you an auto bot ?
#64 [01:29] <SirCmpwn> the lighting engine changed several times recently
#65 [01:30] <lewisviper> ahhh
#66 [01:30] <SirCmpwn> an auto bot?
#67 [01:30] <lewisviper> thats why
#68 [01:30] <lewisviper> yes you just reacted quicker
#69 [01:30] <lewisviper> than most
#70 [01:30] <lewisviper> people
#71 [01:30] <lewisviper> who type
#72 [01:30] <lewisviper> at a very slow rate
#73 [01:30] <SirCmpwn> please put
#74 [01:30] <SirCmpwn> each sentence
#75 [01:30] <SirCmpwn> in one line
#76 [01:30] <lewisviper> sorry 8)
#77 [01:30] <SirCmpwn> instead of several
#78 [01:30] <lewisviper> lol ok so used to editing thousands of permissions
#79 [01:31] <lewisviper> redownloading mcedit
#80 [01:31] <lewisviper> we thought it might have been npcs but after removing them it still occured
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#83 [01:33] <lewisviper> is there a way to use mcedit to edit a world out of the singleplayer world or do I have to import to the save folder
#84 [01:33] <SirCmpwn> you should be able to click "Open Level" or something like it
#85 [01:33] <SirCmpwn> then point it at the level.dat file in the world folder
#86 [01:33] <lewisviper> ahhh ok I thought it was stuck with using a default director
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#88 [01:33] <lewisviper> directory.
#89 [01:34] <lewisviper> ok here goes
#90 [01:34] <SirCmpwn> back up your world
#91 [01:35] <SirCmpwn> don't whine to me if it's corrupted and you have no backup
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#93 [01:35] <lewisviper> lol Sir I am a religous person when it comes to backing up
#94 [01:35] <SirCmpwn> idiots are common
#95 [01:35] <SirCmpwn> forgive me for assuming most people are one
#96 [01:35] <lewisviper> lol
#97 [01:35] <lewisviper> its fine I usually agree
#98 [01:36] <lewisviper> then they curse you and demand a fix
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#100 [01:37] <lewisviper> ok so level.dat not the Uid
#101 [01:37] <SirCmpwn> hmm?
#102 [01:37] <lewisviper> here we go
#103 [01:37] <lewisviper> ok world is loaded
#104 [01:37] <SirCmpwn> go find the troublesome area
#105 [01:37] <lewisviper> how do I proceed
#106 [01:38] <lewisviper> there
#107 [01:38] <SirCmpwn> change a few blocks around (anywhere in the chunk will probably do)
#108 [01:38] <lewisviper> change in what way ?
#109 [01:38] <SirCmpwn> alternatively, look for a means of recalculating lighting without changing blocks
#110 [01:38] <SirCmpwn> any way at all
#111 [01:38] <lewisviper> I see so it has some kind of automatic balancing system ?
#112 [01:38] <SirCmpwn> balancing?
#113 [01:38] <lewisviper> calibration
#114 [01:39] <SirCmpwn> when a block changes, I believe it will recalculate lighting for that chunk and any affected chunks nearby
#115 [01:39] <SirCmpwn> TkTech would know more
#116 [01:40] <lewisviper> this is odd
#117 [01:40] <lewisviper> I see 2 heads
#118 [01:40] <SirCmpwn> what kind of heads
#119 [01:40] <lewisviper> avatar heads
#120 [01:40] <SirCmpwn> there are players nearby in the players/ folder
#121 [01:40] <SirCmpwn> there are several .dat files in players/ in each world
#122 [01:41] <SirCmpwn> those dat files describe player locations, inventory, etc
#123 [01:41] <lewisviper> ahhh that makes sense
#124 [01:41] <SirCmpwn> mcedit will show you player locations based on these files
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#126 [01:41] <lewisviper> ok maybe you can help me here how do i grab a block and move it
#127 [01:42] <SirCmpwn> perhaps there's some grass nearby, or some other throwaway blocks
#128 [01:42] <SirCmpwn> click one of them twice (not double click, just single click twice)
#129 [01:42] <SirCmpwn> press DEL to get rid of it
#130 [01:42] <SirCmpwn> that should do the trick
#131 [01:42] <SirCmpwn> also, might be worth noting that lighting might not actually be your problem, and we're operating off of my hunch based on vague information
#132 [01:43] <lewisviper> absolutely
#133 [01:44] <lewisviper> but my past experience with games shading and lighting tends to be something that slows them down greatly if something is broke
#134 [01:44] <lewisviper> redstone wiring if some ones got deactive circuits in the city would they still cause lah
#135 [01:44] <lewisviper> lag
#136 [01:44] <SirCmpwn> if that doesn't work, send me the map and I'll dick with it for a while
#137 [01:44] <lewisviper> ok that would be awesome
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#139 [01:44] <SirCmpwn> no promises that I'll give a damn long enough to fix your problem, though
#140 [01:44] <lewisviper> ok how do i save this
#141 [01:45] <SirCmpwn> Ctrl+S
#142 [01:45] <lewisviper> of course
#143 [01:45] <lewisviper> ok saved
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#145 [01:45] <lewisviper> rebooting server
#146 [01:45] <SirCmpwn> did you see some shit about lighting show up
#147 [01:45] <lewisviper> yes
#148 [01:45] <SirCmpwn> in mcedit
#149 [01:45] <lewisviper> progress bar
#150 [01:45] <SirCmpwn> cool.
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#153 [01:46] <lewisviper> interesting maybe just coincidence world loaded quicker
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#155 [01:47] <lewisviper> lol woops seems backing up was worth it when i hit delete the first time it took a chunk out
#156 [01:47] <SirCmpwn> hee hee
#157 [01:48] <SirCmpwn> regerating the chunk would certainly fix the lighting, but also lose everything that you'd built since first generating it
#158 [01:50] <lewisviper> yeah im gonna redo what you taught me
#159 [01:50] <lewisviper> then retry
#160 [01:50] <SirCmpwn> in mcedit
#161 [01:50] <SirCmpwn> there are icons along the bottom
#162 [01:51] <SirCmpwn> each icon represents a tool
#163 [01:51] <lewisviper> mcedit is very fiddlerly
#164 [01:51] <SirCmpwn> make sure you have the block select , not the chunk select
#165 [01:51] <lewisviper> i will, I recognized what I did
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#167 [01:54] <lewisviper> how do u move a block u have selected in the mcedit
#168 [01:55] <SirCmpwn> ask again, and use full words
#169 [01:55] <lewisviper> How would I move a block in this program
#170 [01:55] <SirCmpwn> inspect the UI
#171 [01:55] <SirCmpwn> somewhere, is there a button labeled "nudge"
#172 [01:56] <SirCmpwn> ?
#173 [01:56] <lewisviper> it was a query typed question
#174 [01:56] <lewisviper> for future reference while I waited for server to boot up
#175 [01:56] <lewisviper> as I want to make use of it
#176 [01:56] <SirCmpwn> ah
#177 [01:56] <SirCmpwn> well, if you find this nudge button
#178 [01:56] <SirCmpwn> if I recall correctly, you may click it and hold your mouse down, then move the selection with WASD
#179 [01:57] <SirCmpwn> alternatively, it may be more convinient to use standard cut/copy/paste
#180 [01:57] <lewisviper> awesome thank you, its like learning how to build in second life all over aggain
#181 [01:57] <lewisviper> that would be easier
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#183 [01:57] <SirCmpwn> you can also use the "fill" tool to fill your selection with a certain block
#184 [01:57] <lewisviper> as I tend to want to edit and move things within seconds of thinking it
#185 [01:57] <lewisviper> this is valuable information
#186 [01:58] <SirCmpwn> I suggest making a throwaway world and just playing around with it in mcedit to get a feel for the tool if you wish to use mcedit for more things
#187 [01:58] <lewisviper> I do
#188 [01:58] <lewisviper> and I will definitely do that maybe start from scratch on a flat surface
#189 [01:59] <lewisviper> and work out as I go along
#190 [02:00] <lewisviper> ok there still seems to be some heavy pausing
#191 [02:00] <lewisviper> even after chunks loading
#192 [02:00] <SirCmpwn> zip up the world and give it here
#193 [02:00] <lewisviper> roger that
#194 [02:00] <SirCmpwn> give me coords of the problem area
#195 [02:00] <SirCmpwn> using 1.4.5?
#196 [02:00] <lewisviper> yes
#197 [02:00] <lewisviper> want me to upload to mediafire
#198 [02:00] <SirCmpwn> http://ge.tt
#199 [02:02] <SirCmpwn> it looks like it's taking a while to upload
#200 [02:02] <SirCmpwn> how large is the world, and what are the problematic coords?
#201 [02:02] <lewisviper> Uploading
#202 [02:02] <lewisviper> the spawn
#203 [02:02] <SirCmpwn> the coords of spawn?
#204 [02:02] <SirCmpwn> 0,0,0?
#205 [02:02] <SirCmpwn> well, only x/z matter
#206 [02:03] <lewisviper> ok
#207 [02:03] <lewisviper> i will double check
#208 [02:03] <lewisviper> soon as you load the map up
#209 [02:03] <lewisviper> it is in the town
#210 [02:03] <lewisviper> where the problem is
#211 [02:03] <SirCmpwn> upload the level.dat seperately and give that to me first
#212 [02:04] <SirCmpwn> it'll be considerably smaller, and I can help you only upload the part of the map that's in trouble
#213 [02:04] <lewisviper> O dear, ok I was uploading the whole server
#214 [02:04] <lewisviper> level I mean
#215 [02:04] <SirCmpwn> that's not necissary
#216 [02:04] <SirCmpwn> see the region folder?
#217 [02:05] <SirCmpwn> I can work with one or two of those files, rather than the whole thing
#218 [02:05] <SirCmpwn> the trouble is figuring out which one
#219 [02:05] <lewisviper> http://ge.tt/6IbRkYS
#220 [02:05] <lewisviper> ok thats the level.dat
#221 [02:05] <SirCmpwn> as evidenced by the file name
#222 [02:05] <lewisviper> loading up level and finding co-ord
#223 [02:06] <SirCmpwn> your spawn is at -176, 133
#224 [02:06] <lewisviper> yes
#225 [02:06] <SirCmpwn> this means I need you to go into the region folder
#226 [02:06] <lewisviper> right there
#227 [02:06] <SirCmpwn> and give me region_-1-0.mcr
#228 [02:06] <SirCmpwn> (let me double check that file name)
#229 [02:06] <SirCmpwn> ah
#230 [02:06] <SirCmpwn> r.-1.0.mca
#231 [02:06] <lewisviper> there mca
#232 [02:06] <SirCmpwn> that's the guy
#233 [02:06] <lewisviper> thought so
#234 [02:06] <lewisviper> cheers
#235 [02:07] <lewisviper> and this makes sense now the way the files are mapped
#236 [02:07] <SirCmpwn> that file contains the spawn
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#238 [02:07] <SirCmpwn> how's christina doing?
#239 [02:08] <lewisviper> shes very poorly not hear from her ?
#240 [02:08] <lewisviper> that a chat log
#241 [02:08] <SirCmpwn> ?
#242 [02:08] <lewisviper> heard.
#243 [02:08] <SirCmpwn> ah, sad day
#244 [02:09] <lewisviper> she was just a friend, but known her a while and turn for the worst I'm afriad
#245 [02:09] <SirCmpwn> that's always sad to hear
#246 [02:09] <lewisviper> afriad. sorry on the typo's
#247 [02:09] <lewisviper> indeed but on a positive note people love what we are putting together world wise and its nice to see people, putting ideas together and growing them and well thats minecraft lol
#248 [02:10] <SirCmpwn> indeed.
#249 [02:10] <SirCmpwn> how goes that file upload?
#250 [02:10] <lewisviper> http://ge.tt/5KHQlYS/v/0
#251 [02:10] <SirCmpwn> good answer
#252 [02:10] <lewisviper> thanks
#253 [02:10] <SirCmpwn> would be even better if it were r.-1.0.mca
#254 [02:11] * frdmn|away is now known as frdmn
#255 [02:11] <lewisviper> did I send 1.0
#256 [02:11] <SirCmpwn> this is r.0.-1.mca
#257 [02:11] <SirCmpwn> swap the coords
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#259 [02:11] <lewisviper> One sec
#260 [02:12] <lewisviper> I do need to focus on sleep 7am here not slept yet
#261 [02:12] <lewisviper> but I want to see if there is a solution to this, not immediately of course
#262 [02:13] <lewisviper> http://ge.tt/7Hb1mYS/v/0
#263 [02:13] <lewisviper> there we go
#264 [02:13] <lewisviper> and thank you for the speedy help
#265 [02:13] <SirCmpwn> much better.
#266 [02:14] <lewisviper> cheers
#267 [02:14] <SirCmpwn> this is indeed an impressive build
#268 [02:14] <SirCmpwn> where is the lag occuring?
#269 [02:15] <lewisviper> well it seems to be in the town square
#270 [02:15] <SirCmpwn> I'm getting about 200 FPS consistently throughout this area
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#272 [02:15] <lewisviper> is that your standard fps
#273 [02:15] <SirCmpwn> a little bit lower
#274 [02:16] <lewisviper> wow
#275 [02:16] <lewisviper> in that case
#276 [02:16] <SirCmpwn> ah, I did find one place with about 80
#277 [02:16] <lewisviper> oooo
#278 [02:16] <lewisviper> thats prob the baby thats doing it
#279 [02:16] <lewisviper> thats a big drop
#280 [02:17] <SirCmpwn> hmm, sky light values are a bit odd inside the buildings
#281 [02:17] <SirCmpwn> should be zero everywhere
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#283 [02:17] <lewisviper> yeah I noticed a streak of shadow
#284 [02:17] <lewisviper> across one of the buildings
#285 [02:17] <lewisviper> i thought it was my graphics card
#286 [02:17] <SirCmpwn> I'll see about recalculating the sky light
#287 [02:18] <SirCmpwn> I have some code I can throw this world into
#288 [02:18] <lewisviper> thank you
#289 [02:18] <SirCmpwn> oh, strike that
#290 [02:18] <SirCmpwn> sky light values actually do make sense
#291 [02:18] <lewisviper> lol I was being accused of too many npcs in the world 8), but after removing them it was still there, which is good news I can re add them and more
#292 [02:18] <lewisviper> so its actually normal ?
#293 [02:19] <SirCmpwn> that particular aspect of it is
#294 [02:19] <lewisviper> ahhh ok
#295 [02:20] <SirCmpwn> well, I could check for invalid blocks
#296 [02:21] <lewisviper> anything to find the source of the issue would be great, do you like the rainbow I asked Lilana to make it, its really awesome
#297 [02:21] <SirCmpwn> you don't have that punctuation quite right
#298 [02:21] <SirCmpwn> and yes, it's nice
#299 [02:21] <lewisviper> and your right there
#300 [02:21] <SirCmpwn> you're*
#301 [02:22] <lewisviper> thank you if only I was corrected by others like this, I would learn faster
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#303 [02:23] <SirCmpwn> any complex redstone contraptions nearby?
#304 [02:23] <lewisviper> yes the cinema
#305 [02:23] <lewisviper> the music stage
#306 [02:23] <lewisviper> but all inactive
#307 [02:23] <SirCmpwn> well, anything that's turned on and actively doing stuff
#308 [02:24] <lewisviper> doorbell has to be activated, the cinema block turning thing a guy made is off to I asked
#309 [02:24] <SirCmpwn> too*
#310 [02:24] <SirCmpwn> and add some commas
#311 [02:24] <lewisviper> haha, thanks
#312 [02:24] <SirCmpwn> you aren't overdoing it on plugins or anything
#313 [02:24] <SirCmpwn> right?
#314 [02:25] <SirCmpwn> are you on windows or linux
#315 [02:25] <lewisviper> well there is a few, but using allot less than I used to, to fine tune the speed of the server,
#316 [02:25] <lewisviper> windows 7 64bit
#317 [02:25] <SirCmpwn> if you're on mac, I have no desire to help you further
#318 [02:25] <lewisviper> 6gb of ram
#319 [02:25] <SirCmpwn> okay, so open the server world
#320 [02:25] <lewisviper> I hate Mac's
#321 [02:25] <SirCmpwn> or rather
#322 [02:25] <SirCmpwn> open the plugin folder
#323 [02:26] <lewisviper> Ok
#324 [02:26] <lewisviper> next?
#325 [02:26] <SirCmpwn> when you get there, shift+right click on the window, but not on any files (just on the background behind them), and hit the command prompt option
#326 [02:26] <SirCmpwn> if a screen comes up that makes you feel like a hacker, you've done it right
#327 [02:26] <lewisviper> yeah like good old Dos
#328 [02:27] <SirCmpwn> type in this: "dir > foo.txt", and foo.txt will appear in the folder
#329 [02:27] <SirCmpwn> open that up and put it in http://pastebin.com
#330 [02:27] <lewisviper> One second
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#332 [02:27] <lewisviper> re-reading, so I asimilate this information
#333 [02:27] <lewisviper> I can.
#334 [02:28] <SirCmpwn> oh, well lookie there
#335 [02:28] <SirCmpwn> and end portal
#336 [02:28] <SirCmpwn> get rid of it and see if speed improves
#337 [02:28] <lewisviper> really ?
#338 [02:28] <SirCmpwn> yep.
#339 [02:28] <lewisviper> there we no issue before
#340 [02:28] <SirCmpwn> well, it is full of particles, and is the most complex thing to render nearby
#341 [02:29] <lewisviper> your command?, with the coma's ?
#342 [02:29] <SirCmpwn> "dir > foo.txt", enter
#343 [02:29] <SirCmpwn> no quotes
#344 [02:29] <lewisviper> ok
#345 [02:29] <lewisviper> blank line
#346 [02:29] <lewisviper> and nothing
#347 [02:29] <SirCmpwn> in foo.txt?
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#349 [02:30] <lewisviper> my bad
#350 [02:30] <lewisviper> here we go
#351 [02:30] <SirCmpwn> wait wait
#352 [02:30] <lewisviper> directory listing
#353 [02:30] <SirCmpwn> if you're about to paste that directly in here, don't even think about it
#354 [02:30] <lewisviper> of all the plugins
#355 [02:30] <lewisviper> of course not
#356 [02:30] <SirCmpwn> http://pastebin.com
#357 [02:31] <lewisviper> ok, if I hit submit does it give me a link
#358 [02:31] <SirCmpwn> yes
#359 [02:31] <lewisviper> http://pastebin.com/BKKE5kt8
#360 [02:32] <lewisviper> lol awaits the shocked gasp!
#361 [02:32] <SirCmpwn> I don't know most of these
#362 [02:32] <SirCmpwn> but I'll list the names that make me suspicious
#363 [02:32] <lewisviper> ok that would help
#364 [02:33] <SirCmpwn> BleedingMobs, BouncyBeds, DiabloDrops, mmSupernaturals, Mobcatcher, MoreThanFish, Stargate
#365 [02:33] <SirCmpwn> namely, anything that creates lots of entities would be bad
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#367 [02:34] <lewisviper> Entities being more mobs ?
#368 [02:34] <SirCmpwn> mobs, item drops, item frames, paintings...
#369 [02:34] <SirCmpwn> minecarts, etc
#370 [02:34] <lewisviper> ahhh I see
#371 [02:35] <lewisviper> ok Supernaturals is more based on stats and abilities
#372 [02:35] <SirCmpwn> no need to describe each to me
#373 [02:35] <lewisviper> then again, it does have items you build that react within the game
#374 [02:35] <lewisviper> ok
#375 [02:35] <SirCmpwn> just letting you know what I might be weary of
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#377 [02:36] <lewisviper> ok I can delete those, leave them in the recycle bin, while I see if there is a speed improvement
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#379 [02:36] <SirCmpwn> if the speed improves, add them back one at a time until the speed problem reappears
#380 [02:36] <SirCmpwn> by the way, this is no longer educated guessing, but just regular guessing
#381 [02:37] <lewisviper> yeah I was going to do that, but I am puzzled no real big changes have taken place, and it was running smooth, but we are talking about compuers here 8)
#382 [02:37] <lewisviper> computers.
#383 [02:37] <SirCmpwn> try removing colored signs
#384 [02:37] <SirCmpwn> I seriously doubt that's an issue
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#386 [02:37] <SirCmpwn> but I recently had a chat with SethBling saying that they caused him lag problems
#387 [02:38] <lewisviper> ahh thats already removed, you was justing seeing a directoy
#388 [02:38] <lewisviper> directory of it.
#389 [02:39] <SirCmpwn> an, ender chests
#390 [02:39] <SirCmpwn> I myself have had issues with many in one place
#391 [02:39] <lewisviper> Ok I will
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#393 [02:42] <SirCmpwn> now I must sleep
#394 [02:42] <SirCmpwn> hopefully you'll be able to find the cause of your lag
#395 [02:42] <lewisviper> fingers crossed
#396 [02:42] <lewisviper> or I will have to remove all plugins and start one by one 8)
#397 [02:43] <SirCmpwn> try it
#398 [02:43] <SirCmpwn> see if the lag is gone with no plugins
#399 [02:43] * SirCmpwn shrugs
#399 [02:43] <SirCmpwn> rename your plugins folder to _plugins
#400 [02:43] <SirCmpwn> instant removal of all plugins
#401 [02:44] <lewisviper> good idea, I did a similar thing before duplicated the folder, and then removed what I thought may have been the issue
#402 [02:44] <lewisviper> I duplicated.
#403 [02:46] <lewisviper> still some heavy graphical tearing, lag,
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#405 [02:47] <SirCmpwn> I have too sexy of a computer to replicate this
#406 [02:47] <lewisviper> I guess another thing to test at some point, would be to copy the world and remove the cinema
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#408 [02:48] <lewisviper> lol my laptop is fairly ahead of itself, bit behind, but not behind like allot of the typical badly made laptops you get 8)
#409 [02:48] <SirCmpwn> my PC is less than 4 months old
#410 [02:48] <SirCmpwn> and I came into a good deal of money around the time I built it
#411 [02:48] <lewisviper> lol well you know for a fact, that its going to run super quick
#412 [02:49] <SirCmpwn> are you a programmer?
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#414 [02:50] <lewisviper> I am afriad not, just been around computers since scsi drives could knock people out 8) , done basic modding with games from the past
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#416 [02:50] <SirCmpwn> ah
#417 [02:50] <SirCmpwn> I was going to point you to some code of mine you could use to manipulate the world directly, if you felt savvy enough
#418 [02:50] <lewisviper> but I am enjoying messing with configs and permissions, and understanding the delicassy of precision with coding
#419 [02:51] <lewisviper> thats what baffles me right now, with this map, it ran like a dream, then like 3-4 days ago it started having issues in the town
#420 [02:51] <SirCmpwn> do you have backups that old?
#421 [02:52] <lewisviper> hmmm
#422 [02:53] <lewisviper> checking, I have a habit of deleting the 3rd copy of any backed up world.
#423 [02:53] <SirCmpwn> I like to do hourly backups that are cleared at midnight, save for the most recent one
#424 [02:53] <SirCmpwn> s/most recent/least recent/
#425 [02:53] <SirCmpwn> at the end of the week, I delete everything but the earliest one
#426 [02:54] <SirCmpwn> that way, I have hourly for recent stuff, then daily for the past week, then weekly until the start of the backups
#427 [02:55] <lewisviper> yeah, valid point, I could do with a plugin that had that ability to backup the server on a regular basic, but would detect if anyone had been on the server, and if not, then it would not need to backup till the next person came along, meaning a much better constructive backup.
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#429 [02:56] <SirCmpwn> I just wrote a script
#430 [02:56] <SirCmpwn> ran on linux, so scripting is actually worth a damn
#431 [02:56] <lewisviper> ok interesting I have a backup from the 22nd
#432 [02:56] <lewisviper> darn
#433 [02:57] <lewisviper> I like the open source of Linux, but I would'nt know where to start, to fix them
#434 [02:58] <lewisviper> but pc's now I can fix these no problem
#435 [02:58] <SirCmpwn> want to learn how to write code? Install headless linux (linux without a GUI) and learn to do everything with it. Then, teach yourself C using it.
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#437 [02:58] <lewisviper> fix them, I mean fix the operating system or backup data that could be imported into a restored profile
#438 [02:59] <SirCmpwn> I've helped a few people do this and they're hirable afterwards at any tech company
#439 [02:59] <SirCmpwn> well, most
#440 [02:59] <lewisviper> well I can only work for coca cola for so long
#441 [02:59] <lewisviper> lol
#442 [02:59] <lewisviper> but ideally
#443 [02:59] <lewisviper> I want to get into programming more
#444 [02:59] <SirCmpwn> obviously, they wouldn't be able to do a ruby job only knowing C
#445 [02:59] <lewisviper> as I want to create and be able to build my own game
#446 [03:00] <lewisviper> of course
#447 [03:00] <SirCmpwn> but that kind of instruction teaches you how to learn other things quickly
#448 [03:00] <lewisviper> how do you manage to stay focused
#449 [03:00] <SirCmpwn> coding is fun for me
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#451 [03:00] <lewisviper> lol i love solving problems, maybe why I am here
#452 [03:00] <lewisviper> I love the end result
#453 [03:01] <SirCmpwn> here's a ton of code I wrote for fun, just because, and made it open source: https://github.com/SirCmpwn
#454 [03:01] <lewisviper> well I would be seriously grateful for any help
#455 [03:01] <lewisviper> especially making it understandable
#456 [03:01] <SirCmpwn> seriously, that's my advice
#457 [03:01] <SirCmpwn> install headless linux and learn to use it for your day-to-day tasks
#458 [03:01] <lewisviper> rofl twatter bot ?
#459 [03:01] <SirCmpwn> you will become a much more powerful computer user and should be able to pick up coding relatively easily
#460 [03:02] <lewisviper> whats the wireless driver support like on that
#461 [03:02] <SirCmpwn> yeah, TwatterBot is an IRC bot that used to output tweets to IRC channels before they changed the twitter API
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#463 [03:02] <lewisviper> ahhh yes
#464 [03:02] <SirCmpwn> I've found it to be pretty good (RE: wireless)
#465 [03:02] <lewisviper> ok earlier versions of Linux had real bad support for hardware
#466 [03:02] <SirCmpwn> it's a bit of a pain to do manually on a headless install
#467 [03:02] <lewisviper> especially wireless
#468 [03:03] <SirCmpwn> I've used linux in the past to download windows wifi drivers
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#470 [03:03] <SirCmpwn> because the stock windows install didn't have working wireless, but a quick boot to linux had working drivers
#471 [03:03] <lewisviper> Ok, from what I know I can boot from an external device using lunix
#472 [03:03] <lewisviper> how much space does it require
#473 [03:03] <lewisviper> tempted to use a memmory stick
#474 [03:03] <SirCmpwn> a few gigs
#475 [03:03] <lewisviper> less than 16 >?
#476 [03:03] <SirCmpwn> certainly
#477 [03:04] <SirCmpwn> my current full-fledged linux install (including lots of programs and shit) is about 12 GB
#478 [03:04] <lewisviper> I would feel more comfortable booting that externally
#479 [03:04] <SirCmpwn> using linux mint
#480 [03:04] <lewisviper> is that a free OS
#481 [03:04] <SirCmpwn> if it's got "linux" on the tin, it's probably free.
#482 [03:04] <lewisviper> lol, just checking
#483 [03:04] <SirCmpwn> http://linuxmint.org
#484 [03:05] <lewisviper> thanks, I was about to paste into google
#485 [03:05] <SirCmpwn> that one has a UI, though, which makes things easier, but is less good as a learning tool
#486 [03:05] <lewisviper> ok here we go
#487 [03:05] <lewisviper> what does MATE do
#488 [03:06] <SirCmpwn> it's a desktop enviornment
#489 [03:06] <lewisviper> ok
#490 [03:06] <SirCmpwn> I use cinnamon
#491 [03:06] <SirCmpwn> see your taskbar, and the UI around your windows, and the mouse icon, and all that shit?
#492 [03:06] <SirCmpwn> that's a desktop enviornment
#493 [03:06] <lewisviper> yeah I handle user interfaces much better
#494 [03:06] <lewisviper> for interactiong
#495 [03:06] <lewisviper> minus the g
#496 [03:06] <SirCmpwn> indeed, but you learn less
#497 [03:06] <lewisviper> lol
#498 [03:06] <lewisviper> true
#499 [03:07] <lewisviper> like using windows before using dos
#500 [03:07] <lewisviper> like using windows 3.11
#501 [03:07] <SirCmpwn> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
#502 [03:07] <SirCmpwn> that's a good headless linux for beginners
#503 [03:08] <lewisviper> Headless, does it have any GUI ?
#504 [03:08] <SirCmpwn> don't follow the instructions on the site, just get the ISO and put it on your flash drive with a tool called "unetbootin"
#505 [03:08] <lewisviper> ok
#506 [03:08] <SirCmpwn> in this case, headless means no gui
#507 [03:08] <SirCmpwn> if you want a GUI, use Linux Mint 14
#508 [03:08] <lewisviper> ok so taking a step back put mint aside ?
#509 [03:08] <SirCmpwn> if you want to learn more with a CLI, use Ubuntu Server 12.10
#510 [03:09] <SirCmpwn> also, download a real IRC client
#511 [03:09] <SirCmpwn> if you're on windows, use HexChat
#512 [03:09] <SirCmpwn> connect to irc.freenode.net and join ##linux, they might help you out
#513 [03:09] <lewisviper> yeah I have seen that advertised
#514 [03:09] <SirCmpwn> for linux, use X-Chat for a GUI, or irssi for a CLI
#515 [03:10] <lewisviper> ok so basicly, your saying start with Ubuntu Server 12.10 before I use anything else
#516 [03:10] <lewisviper> Linux based
#517 [03:10] <SirCmpwn> you're*
#518 [03:10] <lewisviper> you're sorry
#519 [03:10] <SirCmpwn> and yes, if your goal is to become more familiar with your computer at a deeper level and learn programming the right way
#520 [03:11] <SirCmpwn> or at least the right way according to my philosophies
#521 [03:11] <lewisviper> I should say you are 8) get around the forgeting part
#522 [03:12] <lewisviper> well not really a more familiar understanding, I wish to code apps, and more and put brainstorming ideas into a project
#523 [03:12] <lewisviper> rather than letting them slip
#524 [03:12] <SirCmpwn> the world doesn't need another half-assed programmer
#525 [03:12] <SirCmpwn> "programming" is too easy these days
#526 [03:12] <lewisviper> hahaha
#527 [03:12] <lewisviper> you sure about that
#528 [03:12] <SirCmpwn> do it all the way or none of the way and I'll be able to sleep easier
#529 [03:12] <lewisviper> I always worry as my brain is useless with maths
#530 [03:13] <lewisviper> but good with problem solving
#531 [03:13] <SirCmpwn> heavy math skill is not strictly required
#532 [03:13] <SirCmpwn> good logic skills are
#533 [03:13] <lewisviper> ahhh now that i have
#534 [03:13] <SirCmpwn> also, here's your tip: when you get it installed, use this: "sudo apt-get install links"
#535 [03:13] <SirCmpwn> they type "links google.com" and you'll get a CLI web browser. Figure out how to use it and then use it to look up more information so you know what you're doing
#536 [03:14] <SirCmpwn> then*
#537 [03:14] <lewisviper> ok baby steps
#538 [03:14] <lewisviper> get to grips with the beginning
#539 [03:14] <SirCmpwn> well, I'm not helping you after that point in time
#540 [03:15] <SirCmpwn> if you get links going, you're going to learn how to use it alone and then it can act as a means for learning everything else
#541 [03:15] <lewisviper> I was going to say if i reached that level
#542 [03:15] <SirCmpwn> sleep is really calling my name now
#543 [03:15] <SirCmpwn> good night.
#544 [03:16] <lewisviper> ditto me to, are you usually around here
#545 [03:16] <lewisviper> 8am
#546 [03:16] <SirCmpwn> I have a persistent connection
#547 [03:16] <SirCmpwn> I am literally always here
#548 [03:16] <SirCmpwn> I just might not respond for hours
#549 [03:16] <lewisviper> Ok, awesome well I am busy today but will catch up once ive installed 8)
#550 [03:16] <lewisviper> I will copy and paste this conversation, so i don't forget
#551 [03:17] <lewisviper> and sleep well.
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#564 [03:51] <techno156> minecraft has appeared to freeze when updating
#565 [03:53] <Calinou> techno156: elaborate please? do you mean the game crashes as soon as you log in?
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#567 [03:54] <techno156> er no... it stops during the updating process... saying "Extracting: windowsnatives.jar.lzma to windows_natives.jar
#568 [03:55] <techno156> aaand it just black-screened :|
#569 [03:55] <Calinou> then try redownloading the LWJGL stuff from here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.8.5/lwjgl-2.8.5.zip/download
#570 [03:57] <techno156> ok
#571 [03:57] <Calinou> extract that .zip file, go to the "jar" folder, take lwjgl.jar, lwjgl_util.jar, jinput.jar, replace the three .jar files in %appdata%/.minecraft/bin
#572 [03:57] <Calinou> go back, then go "native" then "windows", take all the files, replace the files in the %appdata%/.minecraft/bin/natives folder
#573 [03:58] <techno156> nvm it worked when I forced it
#574 [03:59] <Calinou> ok
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#583 [04:23] <Finamenon> so I just run into one of the weirdest bugs ive ever seen
#584 [04:23] <Finamenon> you know how if you remove a block near a water source's enclosure, the water will flow out from that enclosure?
#585 [04:26] <Finamenon> well instead of creating blocks of flow water, it created ice
#586 [04:26] <Finamenon> in the same pattern.. it was bizarre
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#668 [10:09] <tobylane> i'm trying to fill the gap between chests and a wall above, do i have to use stairs? the lighting bug with stairs, what are the workarounds?
#669 [10:18] <SirCmpwn> you need to use any kind of transparent block, tobylane
#670 [10:18] <SirCmpwn> stairs, half slabs, glowstone, glass...
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#672 [10:18] <tobylane> stairs, tnt, glowstone, any others that can appear full?
#673 [10:19] <SirCmpwn> yep
#674 [10:19] <SirCmpwn> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Transparency
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#701 [11:27] <Helleri> Hello, this a minecraft irc channel?
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#707 [11:34] <xolotl> #minecrafthelp is a Starcraft 2 channel.
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#711 [11:35] <Selbram> they already left
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#713 [11:35] <Selbram> they asked a question, did not wait for an answer, and left
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#715 [11:37] <xolotl> Selbram: Yeah, I know. I didn't want that to get in the way of a lame offtopic joke, though. :)
#716 [11:37] <Selbram> it was a mind boggeling question
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#736 [12:26] <SirCmpwn> don't you just love webchat
#737 [12:26] <SirCmpwn> I miss the days of IRC when you actually had to know your shit just to connect
#738 [12:27] <Morrolan> You also send your e-mails with a telnet client I presume?
#739 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> actually, I do, on occasion.
#740 [12:27] <Morrolan> You're not helping my case here, DopeGhoti. :<
#741 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> well.. s/telnet/netcat/
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#743 [12:28] <SirCmpwn> sometimes I'll use telnet (or just raw sockets) to IRC when I just need some quick support
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#745 [12:29] <xolotl> PING SirCmpwn
#746 [12:29] <SirCmpwn> PONG xolotl
#747 [12:29] <xolotl> :)
#748 [12:30] <SirCmpwn> what do you want
#749 [12:30] <xolotl> Nothing, just testing your IRC protocol responsiveness
#750 [12:30] <SirCmpwn> oh, well, asdf
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#753 [12:34] <Frostic> good morning guys
#754 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> salutations, sentient being.
#755 [12:35] <Boreeas> 010001110111001001100101011001010111010001101001011011100110011101110011
#756 [12:35] <Frostic> lol this is star trek now not irc?
#757 [12:36] <Morrolan> Actually, this is Boreeas' cooking class.
#758 [12:36] <Frostic> ooo benders self distruction sequence
#759 [12:36] <Boreeas> Yes. Today we learn how to make noobstew
#760 [12:36] <Tehnoodlestar> Welcome to the borderlands 2 official chat channel!
#761 [12:36] <Frostic> lol
#762 [12:36] <SirCmpwn> Boreeas: greetings
#763 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> Boreeas: 010000110110111101110010011001000110100101100001011011000010000001110011011000010110110001110101011101000110000101110100011010010110111101101110011100110010000001101001011011100010000001110010011001010111010001110101011100100110111000101110
#764 [12:36] <Morrolan> Tehnoodlestar, devoice, you're drunk. Go home.
#765 [12:37] <SirCmpwn> I was worried about the encoding for a moment
#766 [12:37] <SirCmpwn> I was worried about the encoding for a moment
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#769 [12:37] <SirCmpwn> I figured you'd be lazy and use ASCII
#770 [12:37] <SirCmpwn> but ASCII is a 7-bit character encoding
#771 [12:37] <Tehnoodlestar> :(
#772 [12:37] <SirCmpwn> and you probalby wanted to use octets
#773 [12:37] <SirCmpwn> so I assumed it was like UTF-8 or something with ASCII-like lower characters
#774 [12:37] <Morrolan> Tehnoodlestar - That's three channels left with a voice.
#775 [12:38] <Tehnoodlestar> :'(
#776 [12:38] <SirCmpwn> Tehnoodlestar: you can prevent that sort of thing with /join 0
#777 [12:38] <Tehnoodlestar> It worries me that people have caught on to my drunk shenanigans.
#778 [12:38] <Tehnoodlestar> Time for an account change I think
#779 [12:40] <Frostic> lol
#780 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> SirCmpwn: some extended implementations of ASCII are eight-bit, such as Apple // or IBM.
#781 [12:45] <SirCmpwn> well
#782 [12:45] <SirCmpwn> ASCII is technically sort of 8 bit
#783 [12:45] <SirCmpwn> what with the MSB being used as a checksum
#784 [12:45] <SirCmpwn> but the days of needing a checksum to ensure the validity of 7 bits are long gone
#785 [12:46] <Frostic> we used to have a script that encoded our messages with 10010001110011110101100011101011 as the text and noone could read our messages without the script but that was like 15 years ago
#786 [12:46] <SirCmpwn> I bet anyone with an inlking of CS knowledge could have read it without your script
#787 [12:46] <Frostic> i wonder if i can find that script
#788 [12:46] <SirCmpwn> unless you used some weird encryption shit, which you didn't
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#790 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> I used to have a script that would implement automagic keypair ciphers on IRC
#791 [12:48] <SirCmpwn> I've thought about it
#792 [12:48] <SirCmpwn> it should be possible (in theory) to use an IRC server as an encrypted chat medium without anyone (including the server) being savvy to the conversation
#793 [12:49] <DopeGhoti> you mean like with SSL-compliant IRC servers?
#794 [12:49] <DopeGhoti> (and clients)
#795 [12:49] <SirCmpwn> no
#796 [12:49] <SirCmpwn> I mean by using public key encryption and dropping messages in base 64 or something
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#815 [13:24] <Craft> Is anybody not currently afk?
#816 [13:25] <SirCmpwn> I'm here
#817 [13:25] <SirCmpwn> the usual process is to ask your question and wait patiently, though
#818 [13:25] <Craft> could u tell me something
#819 [13:25] <SirCmpwn> only if you spell out your words
#820 [13:25] <Craft> Ya I know
#821 [13:25] <xolotl> Craft: IRC ettiquite is to just ask your question first, don't bother asking if anyone's around, or if you can ask a question, btw. :)
#822 [13:26] <Craft> So,
#823 [13:26] <Craft> Apparently the graphics card of this computer is messed up.. why does the memory usage escalate?
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#825 [13:26] <SirCmpwn> that isn't really enough detail.
#826 [13:26] <SirCmpwn> Press windows key+R and type "dxdiag", then press enter
#827 [13:27] <Craft> Log onto mc > 30 seconds later > mc screen goes crazy and memory increases by 200k+
#828 [13:27] <SirCmpwn> there's a button that says "save all information", use it. Open the saved file in notepad, and paste its contents into http://pastebin.com
#829 [13:27] <SirCmpwn> that will give us more information
#830 [13:27] <Craft> http://pastebin.com/6kiQLZHz
#831 [13:28] <SirCmpwn> well done, you can follow simple instructions
#832 [13:28] <SirCmpwn> more than I can say for most visitors to this channel
#833 [13:28] <SirCmpwn> hmm, you seem to have a decent PC
#834 [13:28] <SirCmpwn> are you using any mods?
#835 [13:28] <Craft> no
#836 [13:29] <SirCmpwn> are java/opengl/graphics drivers all up to date?
#837 [13:29] <Craft> Pretty sure
#838 [13:29] <SirCmpwn> run "java -version" and tell us that version number
#839 [13:29] <Craft> unless there was a recent update i didnt know about
#840 [13:30] <Craft> uhm, in the search bar on the computer?
#841 [13:30] <SirCmpwn> also, describe in more detail how the "screen goes crazy"
#842 [13:30] <SirCmpwn> do you get into the main menu? in game?
#843 [13:30] <Craft> http://oi49.tinypic.com/120h06o.jpg
#844 [13:30] <SirCmpwn> and forget about java -version, I forgot you were not tech-savvy
#845 [13:30] <Craft> Thats what i mean
#846 [13:30] <SirCmpwn> ._.
#847 [13:30] <Craft> nope :l
#848 [13:30] <SirCmpwn> double check your gpu drivers
#849 [13:31] <Craft> uhhhh
#850 [13:31] <Craft> Now you're losing me XD
#851 [13:31] <Lutzee> His drivers are fine
#852 [13:31] <Lutzee> ?? forceupdate
#853 [13:31] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#854 [13:31] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#855 [13:32] <Craft> I'll try but I don't think that will work \:
#856 [13:32] <SirCmpwn> what makes you think that's the problem?
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#858 [13:32] <Lutzee> I'll start from basic, if thats not the rpoblem then reinstall java, then reinstall graphiocs drivers
#859 [13:32] <SirCmpwn> Craft: click this: http://tinyurl.com/cbmhut4
#860 [13:33] <SirCmpwn> Lutzee: did you look at his screenshot? I doubt his java or minecraft install is messed up
#861 [13:34] <Craft> sirc
#862 [13:34] <Craft> pm me?
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#865 [13:50] <Danny> Hi, I am struggling to buy minecraft - can you help?
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#867 [13:50] <Selbram> be patient and someone might be able to assist
#868 [13:51] <Danny> ok - my fairly new laptop fails to download the demo version but does not give an error message
#869 [13:52] <Selbram> Please make sure you have java installed: http://www.java.com
#870 [13:52] <Danny> yeh done that however it just keeps freezing at 10%
#871 [13:53] <Lutzee> ?? demo
#872 [13:53] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#873 [13:53] <Selbram> Try disabling firewalls to see if that can help.
#874 [13:53] <Danny> ok will do ..thanks mate
#875 [13:53] <Lutzee> Selbram: the launcher is known not to work at all :)
#876 [13:53] <Selbram> bah
#877 [13:53] <Selbram> we can try
#878 [13:53] <Selbram> :)
#879 [13:54] <Danny> soz a bit confused - are you saying the demo doesnt work at all - should I just buy the full version and hope for the best?
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#881 [13:55] <Lutzee> Danny: no, visit http://www.minecraft.net/demo to play the demo
#882 [13:55] <Danny> ok thanks
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#886 [13:59] <Craft> Could anybody tell me the lowest setting choices to put on Mc for least amount of lag?
#887 [14:00] <Lutzee> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/ here
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#889 [14:00] <Danny> turned off firewall, accepted the launcher - starts to "download packages" but always freezes between 5 & 20% downloaded - got a very sad son who cant get the game!!
#890 [14:01] <Craft> I meant the mc options :P
#891 [14:02] <Lutzee> Danny: This is using the in browser version at minecraft.net/demo and not the downloadable launcher?
#892 [14:02] <Lutzee> Craft: The best options are listed there
#893 [14:03] <Danny> yes have been using the in version - I should try the downloadable yes?
#894 [14:03] <Craft> lutzee
#895 [14:04] <Lutzee> Danny: no, what anti virus do you use/
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#897 [14:04] <Craft> lutzee
#898 [14:04] <Craft> remember how i said my graphics went weird and the screen lags?
#899 [14:04] <Lutzee> Yes
#900 [14:04] <Craft> Maybe this thing I just got can help you come to a conclusion
#901 [14:04] <Craft> http://oi46.tinypic.com/208k0ib.jpg
#902 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> Oh hey, driver issues just like we have been telling someone for the past three days.
#903 [14:05] <Danny> AVG free
#904 [14:05] <Craft> dopeghotiplz I am talking to lutzee
#905 [14:05] <Lutzee> Danny: go into the options and disable the link scanner module
#906 [14:06] <Lutzee> ?? win/avg
#907 [14:06] <VoxelHead> win/avg: AVG's antivirus program is known to interfere with Minecraft's self-update process. You will have to disable AVG's LinkScanner feature for Minecraft to update itself properly.
#908 [14:07] <Selbram> Yes this ^
#909 [14:07] * Lutzee remembers that
#909 [14:07] <Selbram> the link scanner causes issues, I use AVG at home
#910 [14:08] <Lutzee> Craft: try disabling Physx or setting it to only use the CPU (Random i know but only thing i can see on forums)
#911 [14:10] <Lutzee> Also Craft Physx is a feature on Nvidia graphics cards that performs some graphical accelleration in some games, but minecraft does not use it, disabling it would be prefered, look in the nvidia settings
#912 [14:11] <Lutzee> Also
#913 [14:11] <Lutzee> ?? scold/pm
#914 [14:11] <VoxelHead> scold/pm: We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#915 [14:12] <Danny> Lutzee / Selbram and others thanks for the advice - we seem to be up and running. Am going to play the demo for a while before purchasing
#916 [14:12] <Selbram> excellent!
#917 [14:12] <Danny> can I reinstate the AVG linkscanner or keep it disabled?
#918 [14:14] <Craft> lutzee
#919 [14:14] <Selbram> you can, you will likely have to disable it everytime minecraft wants to update though
#920 [14:14] <Lutzee> Er, re-enabling it will cause problems whenever an update comes out, but all you'll have to do is re-diable it if you don't feel safe without it on.
#921 [14:14] <Craft> Physx is currently using CPU as the processor?
#922 [14:15] <Calinou> what does physx have to do with computing in general
#923 [14:15] <Calinou> it is an horrible proprietary GPGPU platform noone uses
#924 [14:15] <Calinou> we invented opencl for a reason
#925 [14:15] <Calinou> (and still noone uses it)
#926 [14:15] <Calinou> /rant
#927 [14:15] <Lutzee> Hmm
#928 [14:16] <Craft> I can change the processor to
#929 [14:16] <Craft> Quadro FX 380 LP or auto-select(recommended)
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#933 [14:23] <Danny> thanks again fellas
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#935 [14:25] <Calinou> Lutzee: physx is used for GPGPU, not rendering acceleration. that is, using a GPU as a CPU
#936 [14:26] <Calinou> <Selbram> the link scanner causes issues, I use AVG at home
#937 [14:26] <Calinou> facepalm
#938 [14:26] <Calinou> people still *believe* in AVs?
#939 [14:26] <Selbram> it has saved me at least once :)
#940 [14:26] <Calinou> never for me, in TEN months. at all.
#941 [14:26] <Calinou> (also, this is irrelevant as i'm now on linux 8D) but I used to be on win7 for 10 months
#942 [14:27] <Selbram> :)
#943 [14:27] <Calinou> get a real browser and adblock, you'll be fine
#944 [14:27] <Selbram> as long as your not an idiot you can avoid lots of stuff
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#957 [14:56] <stickypixel> Hiya guys.
#958 [14:56] <Selbram> greetings
#959 [14:56] <stickypixel> Now to wait for people who need help.
#960 [14:59] <stickypixel> So how's everyone doing?
#961 [15:00] <SirCmpwn> I'm bot writing
#962 [15:00] <SirCmpwn> hooray for bots
#963 [15:01] <stickypixel> SirCmpwn: What language?
#964 [15:01] <SirCmpwn> C#
#965 [15:01] <stickypixel> Ah, I don't see C# bots too often.
#966 [15:01] <stickypixel> Maybe because 75% are made in scripting languages.
#967 [15:02] <SirCmpwn> I have a nice C# botting framework I wrote some time ago
#968 [15:02] <SirCmpwn> example bot that bothers a PHP user on freenode: https://gist.github.com/d7aa4bde8dfb8cf8cf90
#969 [15:05] <stickypixel> That's great :b
#970 [15:05] <stickypixel> "Don't f**king use PHP"
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#974 [15:09] <stickypixel> I hate getting charliehorses.
#975 [15:09] <stickypixel> I was just sitting yesterday and got one.
#976 [15:10] <stickypixel> FML
#977 [15:10] <Bobbie> Minecraft won't let me play, it just says "Updating Minecraft Done Loading" & Never displays tha MINECRAFT Title screen!!! ANYONE HELP????
#978 [15:10] <stickypixel> One minute, Bobbie.
#979 [15:10] <Bobbie> Minecraft won't let me play, it just says "Updating Minecraft Done Loading" & Never displays tha MINECRAFT Title screen!!! ANYONE HELP????
#980 [15:11] <stickypixel> ??> Bobbie patience
#981 [15:11] <VoxelHead> Bobbie: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#982 [15:11] <VoxelHead> Bobbie: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#983 [15:11] <Bobbie> thanks
#984 [15:12] <Bobbie> ...
#985 [15:12] <stickypixel> Do you have any crash-reports based on this problem and/or have a log of the situation?
#986 [15:13] <SirCmpwn> Bobbie: what platform and what kind of computer
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#988 [15:13] <Bobbie> No, I have crash reports, what do you mean be "log"?
#989 [15:13] <Bobbie> NO crash reports, sorry
#990 [15:14] <stickypixel> As in do you have a console where it displays everthing going on.
#991 [15:14] <Bobbie> No
#992 [15:14] <stickypixel> When playing Minecraft.
#993 [15:14] <stickypixel> Alright download this, and follow the instructions:
#994 [15:14] <Bobbie> ok
#995 [15:14] <stickypixel> ??> Bobbie win/client/moreram
#996 [15:14] <VoxelHead> Bobbie: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#997 [15:14] <VoxelHead> Bobbie: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
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#999 [15:15] <stickypixel> This displays a log which will help me tons more with your problem.
#1000 [15:15] <Bobbie> ok
#1001 [15:15] <stickypixel> But don't close Minecraft when the error occurs.
#1002 [15:15] <Bobbie> now open M.C ?
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#1004 [15:16] <stickypixel> Open MC with the program you just downloaded.
#1005 [15:16] <SirCmpwn> how about having him get a dxdiag dump
#1006 [15:16] <SirCmpwn> that'll tell us lots about his computer in general
#1007 [15:16] <stickypixel> I don't know if its a driver error or not, I'm just going to go through process of elimination.
#1008 [15:17] <Bobbie> i'm sorry, it still won't finish loading
#1009 [15:17] <stickypixel> Alright, try this instead.
#1010 [15:17] <stickypixel> Wait, do you still have MC open.
#1011 [15:17] <stickypixel> ?
#1012 [15:18] <Bobbie> Yes
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#1014 [15:18] <stickypixel> See that CMD window, well open it, and see if it says anything relative to an error.
#1015 [15:18] <SirCmpwn> http://www.mediafire.com/?79n41nbnqd3kd8q
#1016 [15:18] <SirCmpwn> /shameless plug
#1017 [15:18] <stickypixel> Please, SirCmpwn.
#1018 [15:18] <Bobbie> CMD? what's that?
#1019 [15:18] <stickypixel> ....
#1020 [15:19] <SirCmpwn> stickypixel: what? If he uses that, he'll get some nice shit for us to look at
#1021 [15:19] <stickypixel> Download the link SirCmpwn posted.
#1022 [15:19] <stickypixel> Then open it, and continue MC as normal.
#1023 [15:19] <SirCmpwn> just open the download
#1024 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> ??> SirCmpwn rule/8
#1025 [15:19] <VoxelHead> SirCmpwn: (rule/8) http://is.gd/zB1w9I Rule 8: Unsolicited advertisements are not permitted. This includes but it not limited to hosting services, IRC channels, web sites, and yak-shaving services.
#1026 [15:19] <SirCmpwn> it'll take care of the minecraft part
#1027 [15:20] <SirCmpwn> VoxelHead: that's a diagnostic tool specifically relevant to his problem ._.
#1028 [15:20] <stickypixel> We'll I'm glad that's clarified before it happened, possibly....
#1029 [15:20] <Bobbie> ...
#1030 [15:21] <stickypixel> Hmm...
#1031 [15:21] <stickypixel> Bobbie: Try this as I would've said before.
#1032 [15:21] <stickypixel> ??> Bobbie win/dxdiag
#1033 [15:21] <VoxelHead> Bobbie: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1034 [15:21] <VoxelHead> Bobbie: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1035 [15:21] <SirCmpwn> (that tool runs dxdiag) <_<
#1036 [15:21] <SirCmpwn> oh, DopeGhoti, meant to highlight you a second ago, not VoxelHead
#1037 [15:21] <stickypixel> You do realize you explained that dxdiag would be helpful.
#1038 [15:22] <SirCmpwn> ?
#1039 [15:22] <stickypixel> "SirCmpwn | how about having him get a dxdiag dump"
#1040 [15:22] <SirCmpwn> ??
#1041 [15:22] <SirCmpwn> well, it would
#1042 [15:22] <stickypixel> Scroll up.
#1043 [15:22] <SirCmpwn> yes, I know I said that
#1044 [15:22] <SirCmpwn> I'm confused as to why it's being brought up
#1045 [15:22] <Bobbie> My PC doesn't want to download it, it says it's harmful
#1046 [15:23] <Bobbie> ...
#1047 [15:23] <stickypixel> Its not harmful, all browsers say that.
#1048 [15:23] <SirCmpwn> Bobbie: anything that ends with .exe is yelled at by the browser
#1049 [15:23] <Bobbie> really?
#1050 [15:23] <stickypixel> If you download minecraft and it says its unsafe, do you download it?
#1051 [15:23] <stickypixel> Bobbie - Practically.
#1052 [15:23] <Bobbie> good point
#1053 [15:23] <stickypixel> Its saying it can be harmful.
#1054 [15:23] <stickypixel> But doesn't mean it is.
#1055 [15:23] <stickypixel> CAN is the key word.
#1056 [15:24] <Bobbie> ...
#1057 [15:24] <stickypixel> What?
#1058 [15:26] <Bobbie> nothing happened, still the same
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#1060 [15:27] <stickypixel> SirCmpwn: ^^
#1061 [15:27] <SirCmpwn> there should be an info.txt file in the same place you downloaded it
#1062 [15:27] <SirCmpwn> drag and drop that file anywhere on http://ge.tt and give us the link from your address bar
#1063 [15:28] <Bobbie> could not enough items have something to do with this, i tried to get ti the other day, but it just did this to minecraft even when i re-downloaded the launcher...
#1064 [15:28] <SirCmpwn> oh, you have mods?
#1065 [15:28] <Bobbie> it still just did the same
#1066 [15:28] <stickypixel> You could've installed the mod wrong, have you attempted a force update when you got the problem?
#1067 [15:28] <SirCmpwn> try this: press windows key+R and type in "%appdata%\.minecraft", then press enter
#1068 [15:28] <Bobbie> force update? how do you do that?
#1069 [15:29] <SirCmpwn> a folder will pop up. Rename "bin" to "_bin"
#1070 [15:29] <SirCmpwn> then, try running the launcher again, but click "options" and "force update" before logging in
#1071 [15:29] <Bobbie> in .minecraft ?
#1072 [15:29] <SirCmpwn> yes, in .minecraft
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#1074 [15:31] <Aizzia> I paid for Minecraft last night and it said that the transaction had failed but this morning 30 bucks had been taken from my bank account and I am still unable to download anything.
#1075 [15:31] <stickypixel> ??> Aizzia accounts
#1076 [15:31] <VoxelHead> Aizzia: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1077 [15:32] <Aizzia> Thank you!
#1078 [15:32] <stickypixel> Happy to help.
#1079 [15:32] <Bobbie> OMG THANKYOU SOOOM MUCH IT WOKED THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU!!!!!!!!
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#1081 [15:32] <SirCmpwn> Bobbie: sure thing.
#1082 [15:33] <Bobbie> thankyou so much sircmpwn ur epic!!!
#1083 [15:33] <SirCmpwn> Bobbie: you don't have any mods, though. You should carefully re-install those one by one, trying to run minecraft again after each install
#1084 [15:33] <stickypixel> or use MagicLauncher.
#1085 [15:33] <SirCmpwn> Bobbie: if you break it, follow the instructions you just followed again to fix it
#1086 [15:33] <Bobbie> ok thasx
#1087 [15:33] <stickypixel> or use MagicLauncher.
#1088 [15:33] <SirCmpwn> stickypixel: or don't
#1089 [15:33] <stickypixel> or use MultiMC. :b
#1090 [15:33] <Bobbie> ok bye thankyou all
#1091 [15:33] <Bobbie> ok bye thankyou all
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#1093 [15:34] <SirCmpwn> stickypixel: never use a closed source launcher
#1094 [15:34] <stickypixel> I use MagicLauncher.
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#1096 [15:34] <stickypixel> It helps with mods, without the trouble.
#1097 [15:34] <SirCmpwn> minecraft launchers have easy access to your login information and can steal your account
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#1099 [15:35] <SirCmpwn> if you must use a 3rd party one, make sure it's open source
#1100 [15:35] <SirCmpwn> I made my own launcher, I know my password is safe :)
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#1104 [15:39] <Redneck> ...
#1105 [15:39] <SirCmpwn> woo webchat!
#1106 [15:39] <Redneck> I need helpa with a recipe
#1107 [15:40] <SirCmpwn> shoot
#1108 [15:40] <Redneck> It's called jiffy holiday tuna helper
#1109 [15:40] <Redneck> I used a plugin
#1110 [15:40] <Selbram> are you modding
#1111 [15:40] <Selbram> ?? mod
#1112 [15:40] <Redneck> I want to make it
#1113 [15:40] <Selbram> ?? mods
#1114 [15:40] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1115 [15:40] <SirCmpwn> you should ask the mod developer
#1116 [15:40] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1117 [15:41] <Redneck> I'm banned on bukkit for asking
#1118 [15:41] <Redneck> Another channel?
#1119 [15:41] <Selbram> why are you banned on bukkit
#1120 [15:42] <Redneck> I asked about tuna helper
#1121 [15:42] <Redneck> It's supposedd to make you heal up
#1122 [15:42] <stickypixel> Selbram: I sense a trol on real food
#1123 [15:42] <Selbram> sorry no mod support here
#1124 [15:43] <SirCmpwn> https://gist.github.com/ce009bd12dd255abb48a
#1125 [15:43] <SirCmpwn> you are not banned from #bukkit
#1126 [15:43] <SirCmpwn> wait, whoops, you are
#1127 [15:43] <SirCmpwn> talk to EvilSeph directly about it: /msg EvilSeph hey, I think I was unfairly banned
#1128 [15:43] <Redneck> Hmm
#1129 [15:44] <Redneck> Okay I'll talk to EvilSeph
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#1133 [15:46] <Redneck> Okay Evil I need to talk to you about the seafood recipe for the holidays. You banned me for asking about it before and now I can't find out how to make it. Please unban me with your magic so I can one day make the delicous, cripsy, and sea foodey tune helper for my minecraft character. Please do this and I will forgive you for all your magic powers being used for no good. Love Redneck.
#1134 [15:47] <stickypixel> ...
#1135 [15:47] <stickypixel> ./fail
#1136 [15:47] <Redneck> Oh whoops wrong person
#1137 [15:47] <Redneck> My bad
#1138 [15:47] <stickypixel> Wrong channel.
#1139 [15:47] <Selbram> Wrong everything
#1140 [15:47] <Redneck> Yep
#1141 [15:47] <stickypixel> I knew he was a troll.
#1142 [15:48] <Redneck> Man I fucked up
#1143 [15:48] * AuBot kicked Redneck from #minecrafthelp (Reason: edneck :Please keep it civil.)
#1144 [15:48] <stickypixel> :D
#1145 [15:48] <Selbram> haha nice
#1146 [15:48] <stickypixel> Just looking at jiffy holiday tuna helper.
#1147 [15:48] <stickypixel> It seemed awkward.
#1148 [15:48] <stickypixel> Then I remembered Tuna Helper is a type of noodles at the store.
#1149 [15:48] <stickypixel> You put Tuna in it, and it makes it "better".
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#1152 [15:52] <BRETTDABEAST99> I have a problem. I have windows vista 32 bit. I recently got minecraft. Whenever I try to place half of my blocks, the game freezes and then it says java binary is not responding. I tried reinstalling everything, and then I got java 6 but it doesnt seem to work
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#1154 [15:52] <stickypixel> He's been here yesterday.
#1155 [15:53] <BRETTDABEAST99> STICKEYPIXEL!
#1156 [15:53] <stickypixel> ??> BRETTDABEAST99 win/dxdiag
#1157 [15:53] <BRETTDABEAST99> It didnt work
#1158 [15:53] <VoxelHead> BRETTDABEAST99: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1159 [15:53] <VoxelHead> BRETTDABEAST99: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1161 [15:55] <BRETTDABEAST99> http://pastebin.com/FcQ8ZpL3
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#1163 [15:55] <BRETTDABEAST99> Reinstalling java 6 didnt work
#1164 [15:56] <SirCmpwn> why not java 7?
#1165 [15:56] <SirCmpwn> it is up to 7 now, right?
#1166 [15:56] <stickypixel> ?? java/1.7
#1167 [15:56] <VoxelHead> java/1.7: Java 1.7 known to be incompatible with Minecraft in many cases. Please install Java 1.6. http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
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#1169 [15:56] <SirCmpwn> noted.
#1170 [15:56] <Selbram> works fine for me
#1171 [15:57] <stickypixel> BRETTDABEAST: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails?driverId=R190091
#1172 [15:57] <stickypixel> Download, Install, ???, Profit!
#1173 [15:58] <SirCmpwn> from the rules
#1174 [15:58] <SirCmpwn> >disruptive bots are not allowed
#1175 [15:58] <SirCmpwn> how about friendly ones
#1176 [15:58] <stickypixel> I'm not a bot.
#1177 [15:58] <stickypixel> Oh
#1178 [15:58] <BRETTDABEAST99> I installed java 6 last night and it didnt work
#1179 [15:59] <stickypixel> We should get a bot that spams DopeGhoti saying "I LOVE YOU, DOPEGHOTI! <3."
#1180 [15:59] <BRETTDABEAST99> Im installing my graphics driver now
#1181 [15:59] <stickypixel> Good.
#1182 [15:59] <BRETTDABEAST99> Im not sure how to intall it though
#1183 [15:59] <stickypixel> Just click on the file.
#1184 [15:59] <BRETTDABEAST99> Will do
#1185 [15:59] <stickypixel> Run it through like any other installation.
#1186 [16:00] <BRETTDABEAST99> It works fine unless I try to put down certain blocks
#1187 [16:00] <SirCmpwn> can you name a few of those blocks?
#1188 [16:00] <stickypixel> He mentioned TNT yesterday.
#1189 [16:01] <stickypixel> His specs are just about fine.
#1190 [16:01] <stickypixel> His processor speed isn't at the requirement, but its just .20 GHz' away.
#1191 [16:01] <stickypixel> I'm going to go get a snack.
#1192 [16:03] <BRETTDABEAST99> grass blocks, TNT, glass
#1193 [16:03] <BRETTDABEAST99> I have to restart my computer now after reinstalling my graphics driver
#1194 [16:04] <BRETTDABEAST99> STICKEYPIXEL!
#1195 [16:05] <stickypixel> ?? patience
#1196 [16:05] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1197 [16:05] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#1198 [16:05] <stickypixel> ?? attitude
#1199 [16:06] <VoxelHead> attitude: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1200 [16:06] <Selbram> maybe you should restart and come back if it is stuff not working
#1201 [16:06] <VoxelHead> attitude: In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1202 [16:06] <BRETTDABEAST99> sorry
#1203 [16:06] <BRETTDABEAST99> Im not rying to be a jerk
#1204 [16:06] <stickypixel> BRETTDABEAST99: Restart your computer.
#1205 [16:06] <SirCmpwn> "did you try turning it off and on again?"
#1206 [16:06] <BRETTDABEAST99> Will Do and Im sorry I wasnt trying to be a jerk
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#1208 [16:07] <stickypixel> Well "STICKEYPIXEL!" isn't a way to get my attention.
#1209 [16:07] <stickypixel> Waiting patiently and asking is.
#1210 [16:07] <SirCmpwn> stickypixel: evidently it is, because it worked
#1211 [16:07] <stickypixel> No, I just returned from getting a snack.
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#1213 [16:08] <Fookme> hey
#1214 [16:08] <Fookme> can someone help me please?
#1215 [16:08] <stickypixel> sure
#1216 [16:08] <Fookme> thanks,
#1217 [16:08] <Selbram> that really depends on what your issue is
#1218 [16:08] <Fookme> :\
#1219 [16:08] <Fookme> well i started a 1.4.5 bukkit server
#1220 [16:09] <Fookme> using R2.0
#1221 [16:09] <Fookme> and i downloaded a map
#1222 [16:09] <Selbram> type /join #bukkit
#1223 [16:09] <Fookme> okay
#1224 [16:09] <stickypixel> It may not be bukkit specific.
#1225 [16:09] <stickypixel> Fookme, continue your problem.
#1226 [16:09] <Selbram> does not hurt to get him in that channel as well
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#1231 [16:12] <stickypixel> Solved his problem.
#1232 [16:13] <stickypixel> Just needed an AntiGrief plugin.
#1233 [16:14] <stickypixel> That was a gud snack.
#1234 [16:19] <stickypixel> I don't need good grammar, I'm a programmer!
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#1240 [16:28] <stickypixel> NUNUNUNUNUNu
#1241 [16:28] <stickypixel> ...
#1242 [16:28] <stickypixel> id
#1243 [16:28] <stickypixel> idk
#1244 [16:29] <stickypixel> what
#1245 [16:30] <SirCmpwn> basic useful commands complete
#1246 [16:30] <SirCmpwn> anyone mind if I bring it in to see how well it works?
#1247 [16:30] <SirCmpwn> only talks when talked to.
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#1249 [16:32] <stickypixel> Sure
#1250 [16:32] <stickypixel> I want to talk to it :3
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#1252 [16:33] <SirCmpwn> I'm deploying it to one of my servers
#1253 [16:33] <SirCmpwn> I'll add this channel to the list
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#1255 [16:33] <stickypixel> Where does one get "servers"?
#1256 [16:33] <stickypixel> I've been meaning to know.
#1257 [16:33] <stickypixel> VPN or Dedi?
#1258 [16:33] <SirCmpwn> I have my own rack in my apartment
#1259 [16:34] <stickypixel> I want to get one.
#1260 [16:34] <SirCmpwn> so get one.
#1261 [16:34] <stickypixel> http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails?driverId=R190091
#1262 [16:34] <stickypixel> oops.
#1263 [16:34] <stickypixel> didn't copy my link
#1264 [16:34] <stickypixel> http://www.amazon.com/HP-658553-001-ProLiant-Server-System/dp/B005KKJPCO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1343380196&sr=1-1&keywords=server
#1265 [16:34] <stickypixel> There we go.
#1266 [16:35] <stickypixel> But me no have money.
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#1268 [16:36] <stickypixel> Is this it?
#1269 [16:36] <SirCmpwn> yup.
#1270 [16:36] <stickypixel> Hello wormbot.
#1271 [16:36] <SirCmpwn> command character is `
#1272 [16:36] <stickypixel> `
#1273 [16:36] <SirCmpwn> things useful to this channel might be `status, `mwiki
#1274 [16:36] <stickypixel> ` help
#1275 [16:36] <stickypixel> `help
#1276 [16:36] <SirCmpwn> `mwiki carrots
#1277 [16:36] <wormbot> SirCmpwn: Carrot - Minecraft Wiki http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Carrot
#1278 [16:37] <stickypixel> `status
#1279 [16:37] <wormbot> stickypixel: Website: 03ONLINE | Login: 03ONLINE | Session: 03ONLINE | Accounts: 03ONLINE | Authentication: 03ONLINE
#1280 [16:37] <stickypixel> O.o
#1281 [16:37] <SirCmpwn> if an op kicks it, it won't come back, so if it gets annoying, that'll get rid of it
#1282 [16:38] <SirCmpwn> here's the command registry code if you want to know the rest of the commands: https://gist.github.com/c07b4a80d50c8c354a06
#1283 [16:38] <stickypixel> `hug
#1284 [16:38] * wormbot hugs stickypixel
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#1285 [16:38] <stickypixel> <3
#1286 [16:39] * Rogue[Away] is now known as Rogue[Gone]
#1287 [16:39] <stickypixel> `google
#1288 [16:39] <stickypixel> `search
#1289 [16:39] <SirCmpwn> `search hello world
#1290 [16:39] <wormbot> SirCmpwn: Hello world program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_world_program
#1291 [16:40] <stickypixel> Craiglist has no servers for sale in my area.
#1292 [16:40] <stickypixel> Well shit.
#1293 [16:40] <SirCmpwn> any computer can be a server
#1294 [16:40] <stickypixel> I do have a desktop.
#1295 [16:40] <SirCmpwn> you can run various things on it like any other server
#1296 [16:41] <stickypixel> But I'm afraid it'll overheat/explode. :x
#1297 [16:41] <SirCmpwn> I have a few dedicated headless machines that do most of my "server"-y work
#1298 [16:41] * Contex is now known as Contex|Away
#1299 [16:41] <stickypixel> But I'm afraid it'll overheat/explode. :x
#1300 [16:41] <stickypixel> Would it be ok because its a desktop?
#1301 [16:42] <SirCmpwn> sure
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#1303 [16:42] <stickypixel> Love that.
#1304 [16:42] <SirCmpwn> I run various services on my desktop during development
#1305 [16:42] <stickypixel> "Bai \o\"
#1306 [16:42] <SirCmpwn> my desktop can be a minecraft server at times, or a proxy service, or an irc bot...
#1307 [16:42] <stickypixel> I use my desktop for an MC server.
#1308 [16:42] <SirCmpwn> and my old desktop is now my IRC bouncer, among other things
#1309 [16:42] <stickypixel> But its only up for a few hours, then I close it.
#1310 [16:44] * Gone_Ralex is now known as Lord_Ralex
#1311 [16:44] <stickypixel> Do you think desktops can handle 24/7?
#1312 [16:44] <stickypixel> Especially my eMachines :p
#1313 [16:44] <SirCmpwn> sure
#1314 [16:44] <stickypixel> Maybe I should install a fan.
#1315 [16:45] <stickypixel> Keep down the nerves.
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#1318 [16:45] <SirCmpwn> oh, another useful thing, but maybe not so much for this channel
#1319 [16:46] <SirCmpwn> `yt minecraft team fortress
#1320 [16:46] <wormbot> SirCmpwn: No results found.
#1321 [16:46] <SirCmpwn> well then
#1322 [16:46] <stickypixel> 'yt minecraft
#1323 [16:46] <SirCmpwn> `yt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f2brU8hBWc
#1324 [16:46] <wormbot> "Team Fortress 2 in Minecraft: "Dustbowl" by Hypixel and SethBling" [1:44] (12sethbling)03 HD
#1325 [16:46] <wormbot> 1,101,701 views, (+0314,548|-04215) [03★★★★★] http://youtu.be/_f2brU8hBWc
#1326 [16:46] <stickypixel> The format of that looks nice.
#1327 [16:47] <xolotl> I have never understood why people think that bots like that are useful.
#1328 [16:47] <SirCmpwn> the youtube feature, perhaps not as useful here
#1329 [16:47] <SirCmpwn> the mojang status and the minecraft wiki probably is more so
#1330 [16:47] <xolotl> But I see that the channel has worn me back down to curmudgeonly levels, so perhaps it's best that I depart.
#1331 [16:47] <xolotl> But I see that the channel has worn me back down to curmudgeonly levels, so perhaps it's best that I depart.
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#1333 [16:47] <SirCmpwn> `status @ xolotl
#1334 [16:47] <wormbot> xolotl: Website: 03ONLINE | Login: 03ONLINE | Session: 03ONLINE | Accounts: 03ONLINE | Authentication: 03ONLINE
#1335 [16:48] <SirCmpwn> ._. whoops
#1336 [16:50] <Boreeas> !kick wormbot No bots please
#1337 [16:50] * AuBot kicked wormbot from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ormbot :You are the weakest link, goodbye! (Issued by Boreeas with reason: No bots please))
#1338 [16:50] <SirCmpwn> I read the rules, they said it was fine :(
#1339 [16:51] <SirCmpwn> and I did ask several times before bringing it in
#1340 [16:51] <SirCmpwn> :/
#1341 [16:51] <oldtopman> SirCmpwn: Who did you ask?
#1342 [16:51] <SirCmpwn> the whole channel, actually
#1343 [16:52] <stickypixel> <SirCmpwn> anyone mind if I bring it in to see how well it works?
#1344 [16:52] <stickypixel> <SirCmpwn> only talks when talked to.
#1345 [16:52] <Boreeas> I see no ok from an op, and I don't see how it benefits the channel. It will only be used to do offtopic stuff
#1346 [16:52] <Selbram> yeah no
#1347 [16:52] * SirCmpwn shrugs
#1347 [16:52] <oldtopman> SirCmpwn: Just because you friend says yes doesn't mean that you have the channel's approval.
#1348 [16:52] <DiskDaemon> I'm not going to say ok to that
#1349 [16:52] <SirCmpwn> I thought at least `status would be helpful
#1350 [16:53] <SirCmpwn> oldtopman: I have no idea who stickypixel is
#1351 [16:53] <oldtopman> Besides, it's in violation of rule 5.
#1352 [16:53] <stickypixel> Wait wait wait.
#1353 [16:53] <SirCmpwn> and it's not in violation of any rules, thank you
#1354 [16:53] <oldtopman> SirCmpwn: Whomever he is, he's not part of the staff.
#1355 [16:53] <stickypixel> You guys are all going stir-crazy over a bot that does nothing horrible or anything useful.
#1356 [16:53] <stickypixel> Where is the logic?
#1357 [16:53] <SirCmpwn> anyway, it's gone, it's not coming back, so who gives a damn
#1358 [16:53] <oldtopman> SirCmpwn: Read rule 5. Of this channel's rule list. We could use it over in #smp if you'd like.
#1359 [16:53] <oldtopman> stickypixel: We have enough bots already.
#1360 [16:53] <SirCmpwn> oldtopman: I most certainly read that, perhaps you should re-read it
#1361 [16:53] <Boreeas> Only because the rules don't say it's bad, it doesn't mean it's ok
#1362 [16:53] <stickypixel> oldtopman: He was just testing it anyways.
#1363 [16:53] <oldtopman> SirCmpwn: I helped write it :|
#1364 [16:54] <SirCmpwn> if you want it in #smp, I can throw it in
#1365 [16:54] <Boreeas> stickypixel: This is not a channel to test bots
#1366 [16:54] <oldtopman> stickypixel: There are testing channels for testing, believe it or not.
#1367 [16:54] <SirCmpwn> oldtopman: I see no way how that bot qualifies as "disruptive"
#1368 [16:54] <SirCmpwn> Boreeas: oldtopman: stickypixel: it was already tested in those channels, I brought it here to see how it would be used and what feedback real users had for it
#1369 [16:54] <Boreeas> My entire backlog is basically just you playing with your bot
#1370 [16:54] <stickypixel> SirCmpwn: Maybe because it doesn't follow the server's standards.
#1371 [16:54] <SirCmpwn> stickypixel: oh?
#1372 [16:55] <oldtopman> bah
#1373 [16:55] <stickypixel> SirCmpwn: Standards that seem dull in this case.
#1374 [16:55] <oldtopman> Rule Lawyering - Rule 5.
#1375 [16:55] <oldtopman> If I see it again, bans for you *and* your bot.
#1376 [16:55] <stickypixel> Its not my bot.
#1377 [16:55] <oldtopman> stickypixel: Then I must not have been talking to you, no?
#1378 [16:55] <stickypixel> nvm
#1379 [16:55] <SirCmpwn> oldtopman: >anyway, it's gone, it's not coming back, so who gives a damn
#1380 [16:55] <DiskDaemon> Channel ops have the final say, of course, and in dire situations may even resort to rewriting the rules so that they become clearer
#1381 [16:56] <SirCmpwn> oldtopman: no need to be threatening, I was not implying that I'd bring it back
#1382 [16:56] <SirCmpwn> stickypixel: as far as the network is concerned, I just re-read the charter and it only says that they can remove bots if they want
#1383 [16:57] <oldtopman> SirCmpwn: The network has their rules, each channel has rules that build on top of that. So while *esper* may not have a problem, you may be banned in #realpeopleonly, and welcomed in #botsonly.
#1384 [16:57] <SirCmpwn> oldtopman: I was replying specifically to stickypixel's assertion that the /network/ had a problem with bots
#1385 [16:57] <SirCmpwn> oldtopman: I'm fully aware of how the network->channel chain of command works
#1386 [16:58] <oldtopman> Ah, thought you might have been a wee bit confused there.
#1387 [16:58] <stickypixel> I just think it seems awkward.
#1388 [16:58] <oldtopman> At least all of esper's servers agree on the topic of bots, unlike EFNet
#1389 [16:58] <stickypixel> Just because it doesn't benefit the channel, doesn't mean its "INSTAKICKED!"
#1390 [16:58] <SirCmpwn> actually, this is the first bot of my network to join esper in almost 6 months
#1391 [16:58] <SirCmpwn> most of them are on freenode
#1392 [16:59] * stickypixel is confused at the random quietness.
#1392 [17:00] <Boreeas> oldtopman: And then there's Rizon, where bots are forbidden, but everyone runs one anyway
#1393 [17:00] <oldtopman> trufax
#1394 [17:00] <stickypixel> Boreeas: What do we want? Rebellion! When do we want it? NOW!
#1395 [17:01] <stickypixel> :b
#1396 [17:01] <oldtopman> raaagh
#1397 [17:01] * oldtopman attempts a chan takeover with services enabled
#1397 [17:01] * oldtopman fails harder than Romney's reddit campaign
#1397 [17:01] <stickypixel> ooh burn
#1398 [17:02] * oldtopman afks for a bit
#1398 [17:03] * stickypixel is still confused.
#1398 [17:03] <Smanly> Romney had a reddit campaign?
#1399 [17:05] <stickypixel> Its quieter than a quiet channel.
#1400 [17:05] <stickypixel> :p
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#1403 [17:08] <stickypixel> I'm leaving, no activity.
#1404 [17:08] <stickypixel> See you guys later.
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#1406 [17:08] <Smanly> ...
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#1416 [17:35] <WhiteMage12> Hi!
#1417 [17:36] <WhiteMage12> My dad's credit card did not work and it said to wait 24 hours after countless minutes of trying. What's going on?
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#1421 [17:38] <WhiteMage12> Somebody pls help? Pl0x?
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#1429 [17:49] <Neptune> I am not getting your email for verification preventing me to buy
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#1431 [17:51] <Neptune> bye
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#1446 [18:26] <ngc0202> Hey
#1447 [18:26] <ngc0202> Can I get control of a Minecraft account that I bought as a gift?
#1448 [18:28] <Lutzee> If you gave a gift code to someone as a gift you cannot take control of that account
#1449 [18:28] <Lutzee> As the account becomes theirs
#1450 [18:30] <ngc0202> I can't even change the password or anything?
#1451 [18:31] <oldtopman> Nope.
#1452 [18:31] <ngc0202> Why? :o
#1453 [18:31] <ngc0202> I paid for it!
#1454 [18:31] <oldtopman> ngc0202: You gave it away.
#1455 [18:32] <ngc0202> But...
#1456 [18:32] <ngc0202> I want to sell it...
#1457 [18:32] <oldtopman> :/
#1458 [18:32] <ngc0202> She doesn't deserve it!
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#1460 [18:33] <Boreeas> That's not really a reason. Imagine if you won the lottery and they wouldn't pay you because you don't deserve it
#1461 [18:34] <ngc0202> Did I cheat on the guy who won the lottery? No!
#1462 [18:34] <FLHerne> ngc0202: Trying to sell something you bought for someone as a gift is simply wrong :-(
#1463 [18:34] <ngc0202> Well, no
#1464 [18:34] <ngc0202> She cheated on me! And now she's avoiding me
#1465 [18:34] <Boreeas> I
#1466 [18:34] <ngc0202> She even denied me closure
#1467 [18:35] <Boreeas> I'm not sure if that's really funny or incedibly sad that you are even thinking of doing that
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#1469 [18:35] <FLHerne> ngc0202: Well, that's a different problem, but stealing back stuff you bought from her still isn't a good way to go about it...
#1470 [18:35] <ngc0202> Stealing?!
#1471 [18:36] <Boreeas> Yes. The moment you give something away, you are giving up all rights on it. Ownership is transferred to whoever you gave it to
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#1475 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> ngc0202: do you know what a 'gift' is?
#1476 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> it's something you give away
#1477 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> when you give it, you relinguish ownership
#1478 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> that's how gift codes work. they're one-time-use, and you give them away
#1479 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> the person you give them to gets their own Premium account.
#1480 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> if you don't want to give things to people, then.. don't give things to people. This is hardly rocket surgery, here.
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#1482 [18:42] <FLHerne> DopeGhoti: Have you invented organic rockets? :P
#1483 [18:42] * FLHerne wouldn't normally apply the word 'surgery' to inanimate objects...
#1483 [18:42] <Frostic> i have
#1484 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> most explosive compounds are organic, so actually..
#1485 [18:43] <Frostic> well atleast i sell the launchpads for them
#1486 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> (though have I invented them? no.)
#1487 [18:43] <stickypixel> Hello everyone.
#1488 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> salutations, adhesive one.
#1489 [18:43] <Frostic> ever heard of water rockets? i make them
#1490 [18:43] * Boreeas coughs
#1490 [18:43] <stickypixel> DopeGhoti -Okay, that was good. I never seen that one before.
#1491 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> (:
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#1493 [18:45] <stickypixel> Pizza is gud.
#1494 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> Generally, yes
#1495 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> unless it's Little Caesar's.
#1496 [18:45] <stickypixel> Uh oh.
#1497 [18:46] * stickypixel carefully puts Little Caesar's box away.
#1497 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#1498 [18:46] * DopeGhoti sees nozzink.
#1498 [18:46] <stickypixel> Its not bad down here.
#1499 [18:46] <stickypixel> It was shit down in a nearby city.
#1500 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> I'll give you that; LC is highly regional in terms of quality
#1501 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> there're a couple okay ones in downtown Phoenix, but they universally were horrifyingly bad back in VT, and the ones in the west valley are just as bad.
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#1503 [18:47] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: Professional Pizza Tester
#1504 [18:47] <stickypixel> It tastes like cardboard to me when its bad.
#1505 [18:47] <stickypixel> It tastes like cardboard to me when its bad.
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#1507 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> stickypixel: 'molten silly putty on cardboard' is often my analysis of LC 'pizza'.
#1508 [18:48] <stickypixel> :b
#1509 [18:48] <Frostic> if its not home made pizza its for the dogs
#1510 [18:49] <stickypixel> I don't like my mother's home made pizza.
#1511 [18:49] <stickypixel> Too soft.
#1512 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> There's a little mom-n-pop shop within a block from the nearest LC that sells fresh pies for less money, so yay that. But even better, K makes pizza from scratch at home \o/
#1513 [18:49] <Frostic> time to get cooking lessons then? lol j/k
#1514 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> or a pizza stone.
#1515 [18:49] <Frostic> yep
#1516 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> that's the key
#1517 [18:50] <stickypixel> I can cook.
#1518 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> go to Bed Bath & Beyone and get a $20 pizza stone
#1519 [18:50] <stickypixel> I just don't usually plan on cooking pizza.
#1520 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> put it on the top rack in your oven, and broil
#1521 [18:50] <Frostic> yes it is and not a new one an old one thats been used alot
#1522 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> you'll thank me later.
#1523 [18:50] <Frostic> the older the pizza stone the better
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#1525 [18:51] <Frostic> just never ever wash it with soap or you will ruin it
#1526 [18:51] <stickypixel> When Squidward dresses like Santa, and Spongebob believes he really is Santa -Spongebob Logic
#1527 [18:52] <stickypixel> jk, spongebob has no logic
#1528 [18:52] <Frostic> go look up sponge bong hemp pants on youtube if u are a spongebob fan lol
#1529 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> stickypixel: not kidding about that pizza stone by the way (:
#1530 [18:53] <stickypixel> I'm 14, so I hope to remember it in about 10 years,
#1531 [18:53] <Frostic> yes the pizza stone is the key DopeGhoti is right
#1532 [18:53] <stickypixel> Just pray the Bed, Bath & Beyond don't close in all this time.
#1533 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> stickypixel: okay. tell your parental unit to go to BB&B and get a pizza stone. resume directions from there
#1534 [18:53] <Frostic> i been cooking since i was 5 and im 30 now i can cook just about anything
#1535 [18:54] <stickypixel> DopeGhoti: We can't afford things without going to the bank daily. I don't think a pizza stone is on my mother's list.
#1536 [18:55] <Frostic> cut your grass and take your allowence and buy one. it will be your new best friend
#1537 [18:56] <stickypixel> With my asthma and the cold Michigan air, I really can't.
#1538 [18:56] <Frostic> if you are a true pizza lover its worth it
#1539 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> sell some plasma, then
#1540 [18:56] <Frostic> ^^
#1541 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> you'll even have leftover money for ingredients.
#1542 [18:56] <Frostic> yep
#1543 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> and have done a Good Thing!
#1544 [18:56] <Frostic> ^^
#1545 [18:57] <stickypixel> I'm just going to live my life.
#1546 [18:57] <stickypixel> k? :b
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#1548 [18:57] <Frostic> just that will make the pizza more satisfying
#1549 [18:57] <Scott> I wish I could sell plasma.
#1550 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> well. Homemade pie off of a pizza stone will change your life, so if that's not your thing, then hey, to each eir own.
#1551 [18:58] <Scott> The FDA thinks my bodily fluids are tainted though so I can't.
#1552 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> Scott: yeah, that's one of the more bullshit things about societal bigotry ):
#1553 [18:59] <Frostic> they wont let me give plasma because im allways dehydrated even when i drink a gallon of water and they say it will make me pass out
#1554 [18:59] <stickypixel> I never gave anything related to blood.
#1555 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> any reason why?
#1556 [19:00] <Frostic> stickypixel you should try it. its very good when ppl can get blood. it can save their lives. and even your own
#1557 [19:00] <stickypixel> No way of getting to blood drives.
#1558 [19:00] <Scott> They do them often here.
#1559 [19:01] <Scott> They'll just setup shop in the middle of a parking lot and put up signs lol
#1560 [19:01] <stickypixel> My mother is usually busy taking care of my grandma, my step-dad works. The bus doesn't come to my neighborhood.
#1561 [19:02] <Scott> I would probably donate if I could. I'm not scared of needles anymore.
#1562 [19:02] <Frostic> have a friend take you they can get money too for donating plazma
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#1564 [19:03] <stickypixel> I'm watching Nickelodeon's real life Fairly Odd Parents christmas movie.
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#1566 [19:03] <stickypixel> Drake Bell has the leading role which is pretty neat.
#1567 [19:03] <Frostic> something i did when i was your age is go around to the houses in my area and put up flyers to help them clean out garages and basements. i used to make $80 a day doing it
#1568 [19:04] <Frostic> people allways need help cleaning the basements and garages
#1569 [19:05] <stickypixel> I live in a trailer park, there are no basements.
#1570 [19:05] <stickypixel> and garages.
#1571 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> There are yards to be raked. Kids upon which to be sat.
#1572 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> options are out there.
#1573 [19:06] <Frostic> ya and for a kid your age its easy to get the job
#1574 [19:06] <stickypixel> Note I am in Michigan and its winter.
#1575 [19:06] <stickypixel> There are no leaves on trees.
#1576 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> Walks to be shoveled.
#1577 [19:06] <Frostic> my one friend used to rent a power washer and power wash trailors
#1578 [19:07] <stickypixel> STOP BEING OBVIOUS :D
#1579 [19:08] <Frostic> salting sidewalks to peoples houses too
#1580 [19:08] <stickypixel> You just want my head to explode now.
#1581 [19:09] <Frostic> na we are just giving you ideas to help you find something to get ya some extra cash to spend
#1582 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> no, we want to help you empower yourself (:
#1583 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> ..on a pizza stone. (:
#1584 [19:09] <Frostic> ^^
#1585 [19:10] <stickypixel> All these ideas, for a pizza stone.
#1586 [19:10] <Frostic> ya why not?
#1587 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> pizza stones are that awesome.
#1588 [19:10] <stickypixel> Because I'm not sure what one is.
#1589 [19:10] <Frostic> yep well worth it
#1590 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> ..and you only need to get one once!
#1591 [19:10] <stickypixel> I'm thinking brick oven.
#1592 [19:10] <stickypixel> But I may be wrong.
#1593 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> it's a round flat stone you put in your oven
#1594 [19:11] <stickypixel> Ah.
#1595 [19:11] <Frostic> na its a big round stone block made out of a special ceramic that brings out the best taste in pizza
#1596 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_stone
#1597 [19:12] <Frostic> haha nice link
#1598 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> Frostic: fair enough: stone or ceramic. But still.
#1599 [19:13] <Scott> I do it the easy way.
#1600 [19:13] <Scott> Imported frozen pizzas from Italy on a Pizzazz.
#1601 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> nothing frozen ever tastes teh same afterward. other than perhaps water.
#1602 [19:14] <Scott> This tastes good enough for me.
#1603 [19:15] <Scott> I buy the imported pizzas because of the ingredients.
#1604 [19:15] <Scott> Nothing weird on it.
#1605 [19:15] <Frostic> untill you taste one made properly
#1606 [19:15] <Frostic> homemade on a pizza stone!
#1607 [19:16] <Frostic> you cant beat it with frozen
#1608 [19:17] <Frostic> thats like compairing a french fry to raw meat
#1609 [19:17] <stickypixel> Thats like asking a hooker for a hug.
#1610 [19:17] <Frostic> thats like paying extra for the hug too
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#1612 [19:19] <Scott> don't be mean :(
#1613 [19:19] <Frostic> who is being mean?
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#1615 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> I wouldn't say it's like comparing meat to a french fry.
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#1617 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> More like comparing a french fry to a baked potato
#1618 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> s/a french fry/an order of french fries/
#1619 [19:20] <Frostic> well i meant as in they are opposites
#1620 [19:21] <Frostic> frozen pizza is nothing like freash baked homemade pizza
#1621 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> on the contrary; it's something like it
#1622 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> just not nearly as good.
#1623 [19:22] <Frostic> i mean the taste is not the same sorry
#1624 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> surely not or we'd not be having this conversation. But it's in the same league, if not the same ballpark (:
#1625 [19:22] <Scott> I don't know what meat tastes like.
#1626 [19:22] <Frostic> i never say exactly what i mean. its a bad habbit i know
#1627 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> Scott: all the more reason my analogy is better, then (:
#1628 [19:23] <Frostic> lol
#1629 [19:23] <stickypixel> I've now discovered something.
#1630 [19:23] <Frostic> stickypixel?
#1631 [19:23] <stickypixel> In some cases, Urban Dictionary can be very ironic.
#1632 [19:23] <Frostic> yes it can
#1633 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> you don't say.
#1634 [19:24] <stickypixel> I searched up my girlfriend's name. It basically described her so much.
#1635 [19:24] <stickypixel> Half of them though are saying that they have a nice ass.
#1636 [19:24] <Frostic> lol
#1637 [19:24] <Scott> "Possibly, and most likely the most amazing guy you will ever meet. He is passionate, caring, funny, thoughtful, extremely handsome, and overly energetic! Most Scotts are always horny, but do not think with their overly huge wangs. If you find a Scott, Keep him, forever, and ever."
#1638 [19:25] <Scott> first definition on there lol
#1639 [19:25] <stickypixel> "
#1640 [19:25] <stickypixel> The Perfect GF. Samantha is the whole package, nice, funny, maybe a little sarcastic, cute, hot, sexy, everything you could ever wish for in your GF. Shes, loyal, trustworthy, and will always be there for you when your not feeling so hot. If you aren't this girls BF yet then you're seriously missing out. and if you are, you are.. Damn you, you are one lucky guy."
#1641 [19:25] <stickypixel> "
#1642 [19:25] <stickypixel> A sexy female who if you are not currently dating you should get with. Samanthas are women of beauty and booty and usually a gorgeous blonde. They are all you wish you had and the best choice for a girl friend. (unless you know a samantha who is a man)
#1643 [19:25] <stickypixel> If you date or dated these gorgeous Samantha's you have all you'll ever need or you are mental and let the best thing you had go, without realizing it.
#1644 [19:25] <stickypixel> Samantha's are the best in bed even if they appear they aren't. Get to know your Samantha because studies show many grow up to be nude models just out of the blue. "
#1645 [19:26] <Frostic> lol pwnd
#1646 [19:26] <stickypixel> Damn it.
#1647 [19:26] <stickypixel> But I'm not too focused on the sexual aspects of definitions.
#1648 [19:26] <stickypixel> I don't plan on being on 16 & Pregnant any time soon.
#1649 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> My understanding is that's more often than not unplanned.
#1650 [19:27] <Frostic> sex is just a small part of the bonding of 2 people yet most guys think that is all woman are for. this is not true.
#1651 [19:28] <stickypixel> Yes but I'm 14. I don't want to have sex at these teen ages.
#1652 [19:28] <Frostic> and you shouldnt
#1653 [19:28] <stickypixel> Consider me a sane teen.
#1654 [19:28] <stickypixel> My GF has morals also, which is another good thing.
#1655 [19:29] <Frostic> not untill you are ready, and not untill you fine the right partner
#1656 [19:29] <stickypixel> I have the right partner, but I'm only 14. I don't want to go that far.
#1657 [19:29] <Frostic> find*
#1658 [19:29] <stickypixel> Yes, because I'm young "I have the right partner" can be an understatement.
#1659 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> Good things come to those who wait. No pun intended.
#1660 [19:29] <stickypixel> But it isn't.
#1661 [19:30] <stickypixel> DopeGhoti: :b
#1662 [19:30] <oldtopman> We have been offtopic all day here, haven't we :x
#1663 [19:30] <Frostic> sadly everyone at 14 thinks they have found the right partner. 99% of that change as you get older
#1664 [19:30] <stickypixel> Frostic: I have my senses.
#1665 [19:31] <stickypixel> Frostic: Don't think that I'm wrong.
#1666 [19:31] <stickypixel> I'm feeling awkward now.
#1667 [19:31] <stickypixel> Going down pages a lot of people must have been pissed off at a person named Samantha.
#1668 [19:31] <oldtopman> Because we're discussing marriage in the official minecraft support chat?
#1669 [19:31] <oldtopman> oh
#1670 [19:32] <stickypixel> This has nothing to do with marriiage.
#1671 [19:32] <oldtopman> right then
#1672 [19:32] <Scott> DopeGhoti: have you seen iTunes 11?
#1673 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> Scott: no, should I?
#1674 [19:32] <oldtopman> >.>
#1675 [19:32] <Scott> Do you use it? lol
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#1677 [19:32] <Scott> I know you use a mac at work.
#1678 [19:32] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti, heard that it's much faster now
#1679 [19:32] <tyteen4a03> but otherwise I don't know much about it
#1680 [19:32] <Scott> It was fast on mac to begin with and it's even faster now.
#1681 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> Scott: I"ll check it out.
#1682 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> I get most of my groove on via Google Music
#1683 [19:33] <Frostic> ya time for a subject change oldtopman so why does my sound work when im in singleplayer but not in multi player?
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#1685 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> someone shot you in the ears in SMP?
#1686 [19:34] <Scott> Here's a screenshot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/Screenshots/biux.png
#1687 [19:34] <Frostic> lol
#1688 [19:34] <oldtopman> Frostic: What kind of server are you on?
#1689 [19:34] <Frostic> craftbukkit 1.4.5
#1690 [19:34] <Frostic> latest build
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#1692 [19:35] <oldtopman> ??> Frostic mods/short
#1693 [19:35] <VoxelHead> Frostic: (mods/short) We do not support mods. For help, try google. For bukkit, ask in #bukkit by typing "/join #bukkit"
#1694 [19:35] <Frostic> even if i go on a vanilla server its the same
#1695 [19:35] <oldtopman> Are you using the vanilla launcher/client?
#1696 [19:35] <Frostic> and my client is not modded at all
#1697 [19:35] <Frostic> yes
#1698 [19:36] <oldtopman> Have you updated your sound drivers?
#1699 [19:36] <Frostic> yep it used to work befor 1.4.5
#1700 [19:37] <oldtopman> Hmm
#1701 [19:37] <oldtopman> Frostic: Sound being everything, or just the music or sfx?
#1702 [19:37] <Frostic> maybe i need to update my java? its not been updated in about 3 months
#1703 [19:38] <oldtopman> Always a safe bet!
#1704 [19:38] <Frostic> the music dont work. but i hear creepers and chickens and stuff. both volumes are at 50%
#1705 [19:39] <oldtopman> Frostic: Yeah, I'd go for a java update before anything else.
#1706 [19:39] <Frostic> ok will do that now wish me luck
#1707 [19:39] <oldtopman> np
#1708 [19:39] <Frostic> thanks
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#1712 [19:41] <Frostic> omg eww i got 32 bit java im on a 64bit systen i bet thats the problem
#1713 [19:41] <Frostic> its downloading
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#1715 [19:42] <Frostic> brb
#1716 [19:43] <Frostic> gaw a restart? since when does java require a restart?
#1717 [19:44] <Frostic> brb
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#1720 [19:45] <Frostic> ok now to test :D
#1721 [19:45] <Frostic> it works haha thanks
#1722 [19:46] <oldtopman> woot!
#1723 [19:46] <oldtopman> Another happy customer!
#1724 [19:46] <oldtopman> Nest!
#1725 [19:46] <Frostic> damn java -.-
#1726 [19:46] <oldtopman> Next!
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#1729 [19:47] <Frostic> dinner time brb
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#1737 [20:04] <nara06> Need help with the download
#1738 [20:05] <nara06> Deleted game from computer and now trying to re download it. All I get is a partial download bar and it says done downloading
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#1743 [20:12] <nara06> Can someone help me with my download
#1744 [20:12] <nara06> Is anyone there?
#1745 [20:14] <nara06> Where do I get help with this
#1746 [20:14] <stickypixel> This seems a bit awkward
#1747 [20:14] <stickypixel> Try checking your connection to everything
#1748 [20:15] <stickypixel> Unless you mean on MC not the browser
#1749 [20:15] <nara06> I deleted the game due to problems and re-downloaded again. Now all it does is partial download
#1750 [20:16] <nara06> How do you contact help
#1751 [20:16] <stickypixel> I don't know what you tell you.
#1752 [20:16] <nara06> Is there a way to contact minecraft
#1753 [20:17] <stickypixel> www.minecraft.com/support/
#1754 [20:17] <Lutzee> nara06: it would be wuicker for us to take a look at the issue
#1755 [20:17] <Lutzee> What antivirus do you use?
#1756 [20:18] <nara06> it says that minecraft is currently offline, what does that mean
#1757 [20:18] <Lutzee> That means you have not logged into the game
#1758 [20:19] <nara06> When i log in it say done loading but with a partial green bar across the screen
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#1760 [20:20] <Lutzee> What antivirus do you use?
#1761 [20:20] <nara06> AVG
#1762 [20:20] <Lutzee> ?? win/avg
#1763 [20:20] <VoxelHead> win/avg: AVG's antivirus program is known to interfere with Minecraft's self-update process. You will have to disable AVG's LinkScanner feature for Minecraft to update itself properly.
#1764 [20:20] <stickypixel> Disable link scanning
#1765 [20:20] <awesome0810> interupt during downloading java, when login again, screen cannot display the game scene. How to resolve the problem
#1766 [20:21] <nara06> My daughter tried to download slinder for minecraft and thats when it disabled
#1767 [20:21] <stickypixel> Force update minecraft.
#1768 [20:21] <nara06> how do I do that
#1769 [20:21] <stickypixel> in the launcher, click options, force update.
#1770 [20:21] <awesome0810> is that work for my problem too
#1771 [20:22] <stickypixel> awesome0810: no
#1772 [20:22] <stickypixel> try updating your gfx card driver
#1773 [20:22] <awesome0810> can u show me step by step. I am not familiar when that
#1774 [20:24] <awesome0810> Hi stickypixel, can you show me the step to fix the problem
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#1776 [20:26] <nara06> I go to minecraft.com then click on play in your browser then the java download comes up , then the window that says done loading with a partial green bar across.
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#1778 [20:26] <buka_buke> im having trouble port forwarding
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#1780 [20:26] <buka_buke> to creat a server
#1781 [20:26] <samdenby> so when i log into any server my minecraft crashes. Every time
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#1784 [20:27] <awesome0810> can any one tell me how to fix the problem, interuption during downloading the java, when login again, game scene cannot display
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#1787 [20:36] <RudRIley> I just purchased Minecraft and tried to download the Mac OSX version. It is telling me that the file is damaged and should be moved to the trash folder. No idea what to do.
#1788 [20:37] <stickypixel> ??> RudRIley mac/damage
#1789 [20:37] <stickypixel> ??> RudRIley mac/damaged
#1790 [20:37] <Lutzee> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1791 [20:37] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#1792 [20:38] <RudRIley> thanks a bunch. I'll try that now.
#1793 [20:38] <nara06> Thank you
#1794 [20:38] <nara06> it finally cam on!@!!
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#1797 [20:42] <djhero07> Why can I not get the game to run? I downloaded the launcher ok. When I run the launcher, and I put in the username & pword, the window closes...
#1798 [20:43] <djhero07> I'm getting a file on the desktop that appears to be an error log...
#1799 [20:43] <RudRIley> On the MacOSX issue, it still doesn't work. I tried putting it in the applications folder and doing command click, option click, control click, you name it.... still saying that the file is corrupt. any other ideas?
#1800 [20:44] <djhero07> Here is the error log... is it a Java prob?
#1801 [20:44] <djhero07> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#1802 [20:44] <djhero07> EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x5083ee00, pid=7156, tid=3948
#1803 [20:44] <Lutzee> ?? mac/gatekeeper/disable
#1804 [20:44] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper/disable: If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See mac/gatekeeper/documentation
#1805 [20:45] <Lutzee> ??> djhero07 pastebin
#1806 [20:45] <VoxelHead> djhero07: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1807 [20:45] <Lutzee> ?? mac/gatekeeper/documentation
#1808 [20:45] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper/documentation: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#1809 [20:45] <djhero07> Thank you Lutzee
#1810 [20:48] <djhero07> Lutzee, the link to pastebin.com will not open... any ideas?
#1811 [20:48] <djhero07> IE cannot display the webpage.
#1812 [20:48] <Scott> try pastebin.ca
#1813 [20:48] <Lutzee> paste.ubuntu.com
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#1816 [20:51] <RudRIley> MacOSX issue resolved. Installed and working. Thanks for your help. You made my 10 year old son extremely happy!!!!
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#1818 [20:53] <djhero07> Lutzee, I pasted the info to the ubuntu site.
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#1820 [20:53] <Lutzee> djhero07: you need to copy the link to it here, otherwise we ccannot see
#1821 [20:54] <djhero07> sorry...
#1822 [20:54] <djhero07> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398221/
#1823 [20:55] <Lutzee> hmm i guess it is bad graphics drivers, it normally use
#1824 [20:55] <Lutzee> is*
#1825 [20:55] <Lutzee> ??> djhero07 win/dxdiag
#1826 [20:55] <VoxelHead> djhero07: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1827 [20:55] <VoxelHead> djhero07: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1828 [20:55] <djhero07> Here is info I got out Advanced Minecraft error test
#1829 [20:55] <djhero07> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398216/
#1830 [20:56] <ngc0202> I'm still unhappy about my lost money
#1831 [20:56] <stickypixel> ?? accounts
#1832 [20:56] <VoxelHead> accounts: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1833 [20:57] <Lutzee> ngc0202: We are sorry that your girlfriend did such a thing, but it still does not get you any special privilages.
#1834 [20:57] <ngc0202> It shouldn't be a special privelage! xD
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#1839 [21:01] <djhero07> VoxelHead, I cant get to pastebin.com, but posted it on here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398234/
#1840 [21:01] <Scott> Did I miss something?
#1841 [21:02] <brandon420> I just installed windows 8, and having a hard time getting the right drivers for minecraft to work. it says that i do not have open gl. But i have the latest drivers. http://pastebin.com/zWwp5tdJ a copy of the error that i get. Can anyone help me out?
#1842 [21:02] <VoxelHead> brandon420: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1843 [21:02] <VoxelHead> brandon420: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1844 [21:02] <brandon420> shitttttttttttttttttttt
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#1846 [21:04] <Lutzee> djhero07: download and iinstall these graphics drivers http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails/Product/latitude-d531?driverId=X2T0W&osCode=WLH&fileId=2731098358
#1847 [21:05] <brandon420> My dxdiag http://pastebin.com/vWzzXB3q
#1848 [21:06] <brandon420> and repeating characters is rude? lol. Never heard that before.
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#1850 [21:10] <djhero07> Thanks Lutzee, working on that...
#1851 [21:11] <THErmAl11> every time i place a sponge in water it dosnt suck the water up is this a glitch with my minecrfta files
#1852 [21:11] <THErmAl11> *minecraft
#1853 [21:12] <Lutzee> It has not done that in a long time, but some servers will re-add the feature
#1854 [21:12] <THErmAl11> this problem will happen when i am in my single player world
#1855 [21:13] <Lutzee> The it isn't a problem. Sponges have no use, they do not do anything
#1856 [21:13] <Lutzee> brandon420: you can try these but i garentee nothing http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+4+Series+Express+Chipset+Family&ProdId=2991&LineId=1101&FamilyId=39
#1857 [21:13] <THErmAl11> really?
#1858 [21:14] <Lutzee> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Sponge
#1859 [21:15] <THErmAl11> it says it was notable for being able to erase a 5x5x5 area
#1860 [21:15] <Lutzee> It WAS notable, not is
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#1862 [21:15] <brandon420> Lutzee, Thanks man. I will try a different one. Installing one of those forced me to have to "refresh" my windows install.
#1863 [21:15] <THErmAl11> ohhh k do u know any easy way to clear water now
#1864 [21:16] <mib_8aouux> hey, i jumped in some [ortal thats in the end and these credits came up... how do i get rid of them
#1865 [21:16] <Lutzee> Buckets? Fill the water blocks in with other blocks?
#1866 [21:16] <brandon420> fill it up with dirt, and shovel it out.
#1867 [21:16] <THErmAl11> no i mean if i wanted to make a base in the ocean
#1868 [21:16] <Lutzee> Use glass?
#1869 [21:16] <brandon420> Build a structure, fill it up with dirt, and then dig it out.
#1870 [21:17] <mib_8aouux> i jumped in the portal in the end and credits came up.. how do i get back to my game
#1871 [21:17] <THErmAl11> the water will just pour back in brandon
#1872 [21:17] <brandon420> Not if you have a complete structure.
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#1874 [21:17] <mib_8aouux> helooooooo?
#1875 [21:17] <brandon420> and remember, torches will reset your breath bar
#1876 [21:17] <Lutzee> press escapse
#1877 [21:18] <THErmAl11> ive been trying to get a w.e mod so i can just remove the water do u guys have any good links for that
#1878 [21:18] <brandon420> mib_8aouux, chill out. Being a ass will not make anyone help you faster
#1879 [21:19] <THErmAl11> ive been trying to get a w.e mod so i can just remove the water do u guys have any good links for that
#1880 [21:21] <THErmAl11> no k
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#1882 [21:23] <THErmAl11> is thre any helpers still on no one is answering me
#1883 [21:23] <THErmAl11> *there
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#1885 [21:27] <djhero07> Lutzee, after rebooting w/ the new video drivers, I'm still having the same issue - open the launcher, login, window closes and error file appears on desktop...
#1886 [21:28] <Lutzee> Er, i suspect your graphics card does not have the required capacity to run minecraft, has it worked before?
#1887 [21:28] <brandon420> So does anyone else have any idea on how to get my minecraft working? Or know a place where i can find some help
#1888 [21:29] <djhero07> Never worked...
#1889 [21:29] <Lutzee> brandon420: May i point out that Windows 8 is very new, and your pc is.... aging, driver support for your PC might take some time
#1890 [21:29] <djhero07> I'll try it on a diff PC...
#1891 [21:29] <Lutzee> djhero07: then i suspect it never will
#1892 [21:29] <brandon420> =(
#1893 [21:30] <djhero07> Lutzee, new info...! My son tells me that it did work before, until he clicked on an Update of some sort... does that ring any bells?
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#1896 [21:32] <Lutzee> djhero07: hmm, well the update might have changed some things,
#1897 [21:33] <djhero07> Can I roll back to a diff version?
#1898 [21:33] <oldtopman> djhero07: Has it ever worked on win8?
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#1900 [21:34] <djhero07> Only have Vista on this laptop...
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#1902 [21:35] <djhero07> Vista Business SP2
#1903 [21:35] <oldtopman> Which computer are you trying to get minecraft to work on?
#1904 [21:35] <djhero07> Dell Latitude D531
#1905 [21:36] <oldtopman> Running windows 8?
#1906 [21:36] <djhero07> ATI Radeon X1270 display adapter
#1907 [21:37] <djhero07> Not running 8. Still on Vista Business SP2
#1908 [21:37] <oldtopman> Okay. What error do you get when you try to start minecraft?
#1909 [21:38] <Frostic> omg get your fingers out of your ass and answer his questions. stop giving random specs of hardware lol
#1910 [21:38] <Frostic> sorry thats just so annoying
#1911 [21:38] <oldtopman> Frostic: They just get slower, and slower, and *poof*
#1912 [21:38] <oldtopman> Patience grasshoppa
#1913 [21:38] <Frostic> ya i knw lol
#1914 [21:39] <djhero07> here is the text from the file named hs_err_pid4748 - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398285/
#1915 [21:40] <oldtopman> djhero07: Try reinstalling java.
#1916 [21:40] <djhero07> will do!
#1917 [21:41] <Frostic> use javara to remove java
#1918 [21:41] <Frostic> ??> djhero07 javara
#1919 [21:41] <Frostic> hmmm i forget the command
#1920 [21:41] <djhero07> ?
#1921 [21:41] <Lutzee> ?? win/javara
#1922 [21:41] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1923 [21:41] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#1924 [21:42] <Frostic> javara is a program that removes all traces of java so it is a fully clean install
#1925 [21:43] <Frostic> thankyou Lutzee :)
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#1930 [21:50] <mib_adan00> testing
#1931 [21:50] <mib_adan00> hello?
#1932 [21:50] <mib_adan00> anybody in here?
#1933 [21:51] <Frostic> yep
#1934 [21:51] <mib_adan00> if so, i need help
#1935 [21:51] <Frostic> just ask or state your issues :)
#1936 [21:51] <mib_adan00> i bought minecraft for pc
#1937 [21:51] <mib_adan00> i downloaded it
#1938 [21:51] <mib_adan00> and then
#1939 [21:51] <mib_adan00> entered my username and password
#1940 [21:51] <mib_adan00> then it says "User not premium"
#1941 [21:51] <Lutzee> You should be entering your email and password
#1942 [21:51] <mib_adan00> how do i fix this?
#1943 [21:52] <Frostic> use your email to login?
#1944 [21:52] <mib_adan00> im using the launcher
#1945 [21:52] <Frostic> yes
#1946 [21:52] <Lutzee> You still need to use your email
#1947 [21:52] <Frostic> type your email address
#1948 [21:52] <mib_adan00> ok
#1949 [21:52] <mib_adan00> i'll try
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#1951 [21:53] <mib_adan00> login failed.
#1952 [21:53] <mib_adan00> it says username not email
#1953 [21:53] <Frostic> wrong password
#1954 [21:53] <Lutzee> mib_adan00: what is your minecraft username?
#1955 [21:53] <Frostic> they never updated it to say email
#1956 [21:53] <mib_adan00> oh
#1957 [21:53] <Frostic> ?
#1958 [21:54] <mib_adan00> my minecraft username is Medievalarmy in case you wanted to know
#1959 [21:54] <Lutzee> !paid Medievalarmy
#1960 [21:54] <Frostic> that service is gone i think
#1961 [21:55] <Lutzee> Frostic: it returned bout 10 days later :P
#1962 [21:55] <mib_adan00> i have the receipt right besides me complete with username and order number
#1963 [21:55] <Frostic> oh nice
#1964 [21:55] <Lutzee> Also mib_adan00 the payment was not successful
#1965 [21:55] <Lutzee> How did you pay for the game
#1966 [21:55] <Frostic> ^^
#1967 [21:55] <mib_adan00> talking to me?
#1968 [21:55] <Frostic> yes
#1969 [21:56] <mib_adan00> i paid it all online
#1970 [21:56] <Frostic> credit? debit?
#1971 [21:56] <Lutzee> Yes, using what payment method?
#1972 [21:56] <mib_adan00> debit.
#1973 [21:57] <Lutzee> Has the payment been debitted to your card?
#1974 [21:57] <Frostic> give it 12 hours you should recieve an email from minecraft. took that long for me
#1975 [21:58] <mib_adan00> debitted as in check to see if its been paid on the bank site?
#1976 [21:58] <Frostic> yes
#1977 [21:58] <mib_adan00> oh
#1978 [21:59] <mib_adan00> checked it earlier today and it hasnt been updated yet.
#1979 [21:59] <mib_adan00> so my purchase failed?
#1980 [21:59] <Frostic> how long ago was your purchase? it took me 12 hours befor they debited it from me
#1981 [21:59] <Lutzee> Er, if your available funds on the account has not gone down then the payment was not successful.
#1982 [21:59] <mib_adan00> i bought it last night
#1983 [22:00] <Lutzee> Okay, mib_adan00 phone the number on the back of the card and ask if the payment was successful, it should appear as moneybookers on the statement
#1984 [22:00] <Frostic> then yes read Lutzee's last message
#1985 [22:01] <mib_adan00> ok thank you.
#1986 [22:01] <mib_adan00> i'll come back in here later
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#1988 [22:02] <Lutzee> Okay, thats enough Metro 2033, great game, hint http://www.humblebundle.com/
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#1990 [22:03] <djhero07> Removed Java using JavaRa. Reinstalled v7.9. Still same prob... ugh.
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#1992 [22:03] <Frostic> oh and for future refference to anyone that don't know we dont work for minecraft, we are volenteers here to assist you as much as we can. so if there is an issue we cant help you fix
#1993 [22:03] <Frostic> you will need to contact support :)
#1994 [22:04] <djhero07> Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions. You're all very helpful!
#1995 [22:05] <Frostic> ??> djhero07 win/dxdiag
#1996 [22:05] <VoxelHead> djhero07: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1997 [22:05] <VoxelHead> djhero07: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1998 [22:05] <djhero07> tried all of that earlier... cant seem to get to pastebin, but can paste in the ubunto paste.
#1999 [22:06] <djhero07> will do it again though
#2000 [22:06] <Frostic> wait
#2001 [22:06] <djhero07> ok
#2002 [22:06] <Frostic> ill scroll up and look at the one you pasted. sorry i didnt see it
#2003 [22:06] <djhero07> no prob
#2004 [22:08] <djhero07> let me know if you want the info again.
#2005 [22:09] <djhero07> here it is anyway - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398304/
#2006 [22:09] <djhero07> a fresh copy bcz I was suggested to install an updated video driver.
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#2008 [22:12] <Frostic> your card is ATI Radeon X1270 and it has very low video memory of 863MB i dont think this card even has the right opengl capabilities for minecraft. i cant get it to run on a laptop that has a very similar gfx card
#2009 [22:13] <Frostic> do you own any other computers?
#2010 [22:14] <djhero07> that makes sense Frostic. I have a desktop PC I'll try it on. This D531 is a laptop I got used for my son so not surprised that gfx card isnt worthy...
#2011 [22:15] <djhero07> but wait...
#2012 [22:15] <Frostic> heres the jit of it. 1) its a laptop(not good for games) 2) that card is kinda low end 3) you said you got another pc use it :)
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#2014 [22:15] <djhero07> my son said it did work prior to his doing an upgrade.
#2015 [22:15] <oldtopman> djhero07: Try this:
#2016 [22:15] <oldtopman> ??> djhero07 win/reinst/bat
#2017 [22:15] <VoxelHead> djhero07: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2018 [22:15] <VoxelHead> djhero07: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
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#2020 [22:16] <Frostic> that was my next idea to try thankyou oldtopman :D
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#2022 [22:16] <oldtopman> Frostic: Well, I always go for the "stupid" ones before going insane, knowwhatimean?
#2023 [22:16] <Vbrasch5> my minercaft wont load in the browser. i clicked full screen in settings
#2024 [22:16] <djhero07> will try that and be right back. I appreciate the help!
#2025 [22:16] <oldtopman> djhero07: No problem!
#2026 [22:16] <Frostic> yes i do oldtopman :)
#2027 [22:17] <Vbrasch5> my minecaft wont load in the browser
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#2030 [22:17] <Vbrasch5> my minercaft wont load in the browser. i clicked full screen in settings
#2031 [22:18] <Vbrasch5> hello?
#2032 [22:18] <Vbrasch5> my minercaft wont load in the browser. i clicked full screen in settings
#2033 [22:18] <Frostic> Vbrasch5 we need more info please be more spacific
#2034 [22:18] <Vbrasch5> it wont even let me play
#2035 [22:18] <Vbrasch5> i was playing about 3 weeks ago
#2036 [22:18] <Vbrasch5> and i went to settings
#2037 [22:18] <Vbrasch5> video settings
#2038 [22:18] <Vbrasch5> then clicked full screen
#2039 [22:18] <Vbrasch5> and now it wont load
#2040 [22:19] <Frostic> black screen?
#2041 [22:19] <Vbrasch5> no
#2042 [22:19] <Vbrasch5> my computer lags and almost freezes
#2043 [22:19] <Vbrasch5> i cant do anything until i click ctrl alt delete
#2044 [22:19] <Vbrasch5> btw i play in the browser
#2045 [22:20] <Frostic> have you ever got it to play in fullscreen?
#2046 [22:20] <Vbrasch5> no
#2047 [22:20] <Vbrasch5> my dad wont let me download the game to the computer but that is the only solution i think
#2048 [22:21] <Frostic> it may be that your graghics card cant handle it in fullscreen mode does it give an error?
#2049 [22:21] <Vbrasch5> not until i leave the computer for a while
#2050 [22:21] <Vbrasch5> about 10 minutwes
#2051 [22:21] <Vbrasch5> minutes
#2052 [22:21] <Vbrasch5> then it says it wont load
#2053 [22:21] <Rikairchy> have you tried updating your java applet?
#2054 [22:21] <Vbrasch5> yes
#2055 [22:22] <Vbrasch5> i did about last weekend
#2056 [22:22] <Frostic> hmmm
#2057 [22:22] <Vbrasch5> yes, im clueless
#2058 [22:22] <Vbrasch5> it works fine at my moms house but not my dads
#2059 [22:22] <Vbrasch5> (divorced)
#2060 [22:23] <Frostic> is the pc 64bit os?
#2061 [22:23] <Vbrasch5> im not sure
#2062 [22:23] <Vbrasch5> how do i find that out
#2063 [22:23] <Frostic> is it windows?
#2064 [22:23] <Vbrasch5> google chrome
#2065 [22:24] <Vbrasch5> i thin kso
#2066 [22:24] <Frostic> i mean is your pc windows?
#2067 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> The way to find out that sort of udeful information is with a dxdiag report
#2068 [22:24] <Vbrasch5> yes. defintely not a mac
#2069 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> ??> Vbrasch5 win/dxdaig
#2070 [22:24] <Frostic> ??> Vbrasch5 win/dxdiag
#2071 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> ??> Vbrasch5 win/dxdiag
#2072 [22:24] <VoxelHead> Vbrasch5: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2073 [22:24] <VoxelHead> Vbrasch5: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2074 [22:24] <Vbrasch5> i have to go
#2075 [22:24] <Vbrasch5> thanks for the infp
#2076 [22:24] <Vbrasch5> and the ti[s
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#2078 [22:25] <Frostic> wow just like you said they get slower then poof LOL
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#2081 [22:30] <djhero07> Sorry to have to say that after running the reinstall script that nothing has changed... }:-{ Damn old laptop w/ crappy gfx card. I'll try it on the desktop later. Thanks again for all of the help!
#2082 [22:30] <Frostic> im going to add some popups to mirc to simplify helping ppl when i cant remember something
#2083 [22:31] * TyanColte|Away is now known as TyanColte
#2084 [22:31] <Frostic> you are welcome, we are here if you need any more help
#2085 [22:31] <djhero07> you guys are great!
#2086 [22:32] <oldtopman> djhero07: Hey, major props for you for not being a dick :P
#2087 [22:32] <oldtopman> Always love helping people like you :)
#2088 [22:32] <Frostic> LOL @^^
#2089 [22:32] <Rikairchy> Frostic:
#2090 [22:32] <Frostic> ?
#2091 [22:32] <Rikairchy> you know voxel has an index, right?
#2092 [22:32] <djhero07> Thanks oldtopman! Nice Frostic... who would be a dick when in need of help???
#2093 [22:33] <Rikairchy> ??> Frostic index
#2094 [22:33] <VoxelHead> Frostic: (index) See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#2095 [22:33] <Frostic> i did not know that wow cool
#2096 [22:33] <Frostic> thankyou
#2097 [22:33] <Rikairchy> you're welcome
#2098 [22:33] <Rikairchy> figure it'll save ya some scripting ;D
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#2100 [22:34] <Frostic> yes this will
#2101 [22:34] <Frostic> thankyou that saves me alot of time\
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#2103 [22:35] <Frostic> so many entries
#2104 [22:35] <Frostic> wow
#2105 [22:35] <Julian> i neeeeeeeeeeed help
#2106 [22:35] <Frostic> ?? ask
#2107 [22:35] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2108 [22:35] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2109 [22:36] <Julian> i bought minecraft i can seem to open it or play it on my macbook
#2110 [22:36] <Frostic> ??> mac/gatekeeper
#2111 [22:36] <Julian> i need help
#2112 [22:36] <Frostic> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#2113 [22:36] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#2114 [22:37] <Julian> ok i will try it now!!
#2115 [22:39] <Frostic> any success?
#2116 [22:40] <Julian> noooooo its not working it bounces back
#2117 [22:41] <Frostic> anyone that is good with a mac please take over i know nothing about mac's :/
#2118 [22:41] <Julian> great thanks
#2119 [22:41] <Julian> so who can help me
#2120 [22:42] <Julian> is there a Phone Number available to call Minecraft
#2121 [22:42] <Julian> ???
#2122 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> no, sorry
#2123 [22:42] <Frostic> no there is not sorry
#2124 [22:43] <Frostic> ??> Julian mac/gatekeeper/disable
#2125 [22:43] <VoxelHead> Julian: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See mac/gatekeeper/documentation
#2126 [22:43] <Julian> ohhhhh so how can i get my money back
#2127 [22:43] <Frostic> ??> Julian mac/gatekeeper/documentation
#2128 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> Julian: Refunds are not given
#2129 [22:43] <VoxelHead> Julian: (mac/gatekeeper/documentation) http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#2130 [22:43] <Frostic> try disableing gatekeeper
#2131 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> Or at least, only under very special circumstances http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
#2132 [22:45] <Julian> Im going to try to disableing gatekeeper..... hope it works
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#2134 [22:46] <Frostic> i hope so too as i dont know what else to do with a mac lol
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#2136 [22:47] <djhero07> Trying to get this working for my son is as addicting as he is addicted to the game itself on my phone!
#2137 [22:47] <Frostic> lol
#2138 [22:48] <djhero07> I started from scratch on my laptop and it works fine. Must be his laptop!
#2139 [22:48] <djhero07> I'
#2140 [22:49] <djhero07> I'll have to get him a newer PC so he can stop killing my phone battery... it's always near battery death by the time I get my phone back...
#2141 [22:49] <Frostic> ya it must be the opengl or something with the gfx card
#2142 [22:49] <djhero07> You were right Frostic!
#2143 [22:49] <Frostic> haha ya kids tend to do that
#2144 [22:50] <djhero07> Have a nice night folks! Thanks again!
#2145 [22:50] <Frostic> np :) glad to help
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#2147 [22:50] <Frostic> im guessing julian got it working as he left
#2148 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> indeed :)
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#2150 [23:00] <Corinanth> i am having what ibelive to be a configuration error
#2151 [23:00] <Corinanth> i keep getting permission errors when trying to execute server commands in single player
#2152 [23:00] <Corinanth> how do i make sure i am always recognised as a local admin
#2153 [23:00] <Corinanth> or op
#2154 [23:01] <Frostic> Corinanth type op name in the console window
#2155 [23:01] <Frostic> it will add that name to the op.txt.
#2156 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> /op isn't it?
#2157 [23:01] <Frostic> if you manually added the name to the text please /reload/restart your server
#2158 [23:02] <Corinanth> i dont have a console window or if i do it is not accessable in single player
#2159 [23:02] <Corinanth> not a server single player
#2160 [23:02] <Corinanth> it is an issue with the internal server
#2161 [23:02] <Frostic> oh sorry i read your messages wrong :( im a noob sorry
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#2163 [23:03] <Corinanth> i normally use spc but they havent updated to 1.4.5 yet
#2164 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> Which server commands are you having permission problems with from single player?
#2165 [23:03] <Corinanth> kill all i spawned a few too many mobs acidently
#2166 [23:04] <Corinanth> or does that only work on players
#2167 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> Start a server using your world, and attempt it from within that environment
#2168 [23:04] <Corinanth> i dont even know how to run a server nor do i have the program to do so
#2169 [23:04] <Frostic> you can get the server exe on minecraft.net
#2170 [23:05] <Frostic> its very simple to setup too
#2171 [23:05] <Corinanth> can someone just help me fix configure the internal server so i dont have to jump through hoops
#2172 [23:06] <Corinanth> besides if i ever did want to run a minecraft server i would never use vanilla bukkit is more stable and efficiant
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#2174 [23:08] <Frostic> i dont see a command to kill mobs except in bukkit plugins
#2175 [23:08] <Frostic> not in singleplayer
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#2177 [23:09] <Frostic> id do as DiskDaemon suggested to you or try typing /gamemode 1 and give yourself a diamond sword and let the killing start :D
#2178 [23:11] <Frostic> i love spawning 500 mobs and killing them i find it fun, like turn on survival by doing /gamemode 0 and seeing how long i can stay alive fighting them
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#2182 [23:27] <Frostic> it got quiet in here quickly.
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#2190 [23:42] <Annique> I purchased Minecraft Technicpack for my son tonight, but his Mojang account is not linking up correctly for him to use it. What can I do?
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#2193 [23:45] <Annique> Hello is someone going to help me here, or should I look elsewhere for my answer?????????
#2194 [23:46] <Frostic> Annique is tecknik a mod?
#2195 [23:46] <Frostic> ?? mod
#2196 [23:47] <Annique> I don't know, all I know is I paid $26.95 for my son to play tekkit...is tekkit a mod???
#2197 [23:47] <Frostic> ?? mods
#2198 [23:47] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2199 [23:47] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2200 [23:47] <Annique> okay thank you
#2201 [23:47] <Frostic> yes tekkit is a mod
#2202 [23:48] <Frostic> i thought tekkit was free i think they got scammed