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#2 [00:01] <BamBam> hey there, my minecraft keeps crashing. i just bought it too! it wont download to my computer either. every time i try, OSX says the file is broken and must be moved to the trash. I am running OSX Mountain Lion
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#5 [00:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> BamBam mac/gatekeeper
#6 [00:04] <VoxelHead> BamBam: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
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#8 [00:05] <BamBam> still did not work for me. still saying it is damaged
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#10 [00:08] <DopeGhoti> ??> BamBam mac/gatekeeper/disable
#11 [00:08] <VoxelHead> BamBam: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
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#15 [00:11] <BamBam> i dont know who you are, but you fucking rock
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#17 [00:16] <oldtopman> heh
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#20 [00:23] <canuck> So i bought Minecraft to gift to a friend
#21 [00:24] <canuck> and i think iaccidently redeemed it myself
#22 [00:24] <canuck> is there anyway i can undo that?
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#27 [00:28] <mkk91> Hi there, Im running linux and when I try launching Minecraft, I get a black screen, Ive done some research on this and theres only old articles explaining how to fix this. any ideas?
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#29 [00:30] <DopeGhoti> mkk91: one thing you could try is `rm ~/.minecraft/options.txt
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#31 [00:30] <DopeGhoti> sometimes something gets awry in there that causes that problem
#32 [00:30] <DopeGhoti> resetting the options to default sometimes fixes it
#33 [00:30] <mkk91> so put that into my terminal?
#34 [00:30] <Iaccidentally> yes
#35 [00:31] <mkk91> problem also occurs while trying to run it off of the web browser, it loads, updates and freezes when theres like 10% left
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#42 [00:38] <mkk91> ok so when I entered that into the terminal, it states that there is no such file or directory
#43 [00:39] <oldtopman> ??> mkk91 forceupdate
#44 [00:39] <VoxelHead> mkk91: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#45 [00:39] <VoxelHead> mkk91: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.;;See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#46 [00:39] <mkk91> ok let me see if that works
#47 [00:41] <mkk91> force update resulted in yet another black screen
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#49 [00:42] <Crafted_Items> can you give me a walk thru on how to setup a sever?
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#51 [00:44] <oldtopman> mkk91: Is an error report produced?
#52 [00:45] <mkk91> unfortunately, no, it just displays a black screen.
#53 [00:46] <mkk91> if I could shoot you a screen shot of what it does within the browser launch, would that be helpful?
#54 [00:53] <mkk91> Its just really confusing that it doesnt work on my computer and since Im new to linux, its a long process for me to learn how to make my computer run the way I need it to
#55 [00:54] <oldtopman> mkk91: Has it ever worked on your computer?
#56 [00:54] <oldtopman> (on linux, rather)
#57 [00:55] <mkk91> I just switched to linux, because windows was in ill shape, as suggested to me by my personal Tech guy. He examined my computer and said that there shouldnt be an issue with it running for me.
#58 [00:56] <oldtopman> So no.
#59 [00:56] <mkk91> but so far, no luck in getting it working
#60 [00:56] <oldtopman> Does the downloaded client work?
#61 [00:57] <mkk91> when i download it, I have to go to my download file, open it with java runtime 7 and it gets me as far as logging in and then when Ive logged in, it black screens
#62 [00:57] <oldtopman> Okay, I need you to run this command for me.
#63 [00:57] <mkk91> ok
#64 [00:57] <oldtopman> (remove the double quotes)
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#66 [00:58] <oldtopman> "cd && sudo lspci | cat > lspci.txt"
#67 [00:59] <oldtopman> There should then be a file in your home folder called "lspci.txt". You need to upload that to a service such as pastebin.com and paste the link here for us to see.
#68 [00:59] <Melon> How can I add a User to control Multicraft as I do to gain full access to plugins, FTP and everything?
#69 [00:59] <mkk91> ok one sec, Im going to run that command
#70 [00:59] <oldtopman> ??> Melon mods
#71 [00:59] <VoxelHead> Melon: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#72 [00:59] <VoxelHead> Melon: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#73 [01:01] <Melon> my question is 100% irrelevant to gameplay mods, I want to add a User to access MultiCraft control panel
#74 [01:02] <mkk91> ok how do I upload it so that it'll become a link?
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#80 [01:04] <oldtopman> mkk91: Paste it into the big box there, click "upload paste", then put the URL you're sent to here.
#81 [01:05] <mkk91> ok thank you, ill have it up in a sec
#82 [01:05] <oldtopman> Sorry, click "Submit"
#83 [01:05] <oldtopman> No problem.
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#88 [01:07] <Melon> Hello
#89 [01:08] <oldtopman> Melon: We do not offer support for the MultiCraft control panel.
#90 [01:08] <Melon> any channel that can?
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#93 [01:11] <mkk91> do i need to copy all of the info in that folder?
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#95 [01:12] <confused> Hi
#96 [01:12] <confused> My son has just been given a minecraft as a birthday present.
#97 [01:13] <confused> He has been given a printout of the order which includes a transaction id
#98 [01:13] <confused> is this all he needs or is something missing?
#99 [01:13] <confused> I would have thought there would have been a gift code or something.
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#101 [01:13] <mkk91> http://pastebin.com/tD4KScph
#102 [01:17] <oldtopman> mkk91: Are you using a 32 or 64 bit linux, or do you not know?
#103 [01:17] <oldtopman> confused: You need to talk to the person who bought it for him, as he should have either gotten a gift code, or an account name/password.
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#105 [01:18] <mkk91> 32 bit, Im running a Pentium D core processor
#106 [01:18] <confused> Thanks
#107 [01:18] <confused> Will do
#108 [01:18] <confused> Just didn't want to look like a fool going back and asking...
#109 [01:19] <oldtopman> confused: No problem, we all have days like that :P
#110 [01:19] <oldtopman> mkk91: Installing this may help you with your problem.
#111 [01:19] <oldtopman> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
#112 [01:20] <oldtopman> If it doesn't, you should probably ask your friend who advised you to install Linux.
#113 [01:20] <oldtopman> If it doesn't, you should probably ask your friend who advised you to install Linux.
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#115 [01:20] <mkk91> ok, Ill get that installed, try running it and see where it goes
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#117 [01:24] <hoverdoid> Why can't I place or break blocks in MY minecraft server? (Bukkit)
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#134 [01:56] <shadowfios> I cannot connect to a server on my own LAN but people out side of my LAN can connect and the computer hosting the server can connect. but the computer I am on is currently connect to the same wifi as the host computer and I cannot connect to it right now please help.
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#137 [01:58] <Andrio> Can you join other servers?
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#142 [02:15] <rakuni> H! I am trying to use minecraft with my IME in linux, but when I do, the keyboard doesn't work in game. I know I can turn off the IME in order to play the game, but if I do that, I can't type in other languages in chat! Does someone have a workaround?
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#144 [02:18] <sugoi> rakuni: i'm not surprised :(
#145 [02:18] <sugoi> tho, try updating your lwgpl manually
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#147 [02:19] <Andrio> LWJGL*
#148 [02:19] <sugoi> haha, zug
#149 [02:19] <sugoi> thanks
#150 [02:19] <rakuni> Aha! It was hiding under ~/.minecraft. Good suggestion; I'll see if that helps.
#151 [02:19] <sugoi> kinda late here..
#152 [02:20] <sugoi> gpl, gnu public license -- i was reading a lot of license junk yesterday/today
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#156 [02:26] <shadowfios> Andrio: sorry for not responding earlier but yes I can join other servers
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#159 [02:33] <rakuni> Hm. In theory, they put a fix in for an issue that looks like it might be the same, last september...
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#166 [02:44] <rakuni> Sigh. Wish there was a version string in the lwjgl binary.
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#169 [02:51] <sugoi> rakuni: i had keyboard issues on my linux box, but not IME
#170 [02:51] <sugoi> rather, direction would get stuck
#171 [02:51] <sugoi> like, steve would continue moving
#172 [02:51] <sugoi> i read it could be resolved with lwjgl updates
#173 [02:52] <sugoi> for all my windows machines i update to the very latest lwjgl
#174 [02:53] <rakuni> yeah, i also had the keyboard getting stuck issue
#175 [02:53] <rakuni> but you get used to it. It's only a big problem near lava when you're not holding the walk key :)
#176 [02:54] <rakuni> so, the lwjgl update thing didn't fix it. It did allow me to use the keyboard without disabling the IME but no dice on other-language input.
#177 [02:55] <sugoi> rakuni: ah, too bad
#178 [02:55] <sugoi> but perhaps it fixes the 'stuck' effect
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#182 [03:02] <tyteen4a03> f7u12, I dropped my nexus 7 twice in 2 days
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#203 [03:53] <rymate1234> tyteen4a03 - well done
#204 [03:53] <rymate1234> :P
#205 [03:53] <tyteen4a03> rymate1234, hopefully I'll get a replacement machine since my screen seems to be flickering
#206 [03:54] <rymate1234> lol
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#210 [04:17] <Pekcf> Hello . Yesterday i have Paid for a minecraft Gift Code in minecraft.net but it doesn't came a Gift Code , help me please .
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#212 [04:19] <Pekcfjc> Hello . Yesterday i have Paid for a minecraft Gift Code in minecraft.net but it doesn't came a Gift Code , help me please .
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#215 [04:20] <Pekcfjc> Hello . Yesterday i have Paid for a minecraft Gift Code in minecraft.net but it doesn't came a Gift Code , help me please .
#216 [04:21] <Pekcfjc> Hello . Yesterday i have Paid for a minecraft Gift Code in minecraft.net but it doesn't came a Gift Code , help me please .
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#218 [04:23] <Calinou> did you put your email properly? no need to spam, btw
#219 [04:23] <Calinou> might have to wait up to 3 days to receive it, if you don't then see http://help.mojang.com
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#236 [05:07] <stickypixel> Hello everyone.
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#249 [05:41] <Maschinengoth> Hello, I purchased Minecraft in July.....first I was a bit worried about, If it would work on my laptop, because the Demo version kept freezing in etc.....but the full Vesion worked pretty good...until a week ago Minecraft started to freeze or lag or however it`s called...it looks like my Laptops work-memory wasn`t enough, but it has worked out pretty good before and 4GB RAM should be enough i think....so I reinstalled the game, updated java etc
#250 [05:42] <Calinou> ??> Maschinengoth win/dxdiag
#251 [05:42] <VoxelHead> Maschinengoth: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#252 [05:42] <VoxelHead> Maschinengoth: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#253 [05:43] <Maschinengoth> while I have opened the game?
#254 [05:43] <Calinou> no
#255 [05:44] <Calinou> (well of course, you can do it while running the game, you're not forced to do so)
#256 [05:45] <ziv> I dedicate a full 8GB to it, just for the heck of it xD
#257 [05:46] <Calinou> allocating too much RAM hurts performance because minecraft will swap to disk
#258 [05:47] <Maschinengoth> http://pastebin.com/gnXNf2A7 like this?
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#260 [05:49] <ziv> :/
#261 [05:49] <ziv> Oh well, they are SSDs, so even if it does xD
#262 [05:50] <Maschinengoth> everything was okay for months so why shouldn`t my RAM be enough.....? even with HD textures and shit ^^
#263 [05:51] <ziv> It should be, my MC only uses 1.something GB.
#264 [05:53] <Maschinengoth> so whats now abut this pastebin thing? did you guys foind something?
#265 [05:53] <Maschinengoth> find
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#268 [06:04] <Maschinengoth> hello? help me...please
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#273 [06:29] <danshatdanila> What's redstone lamp...
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#277 [06:30] <Calinou> Maschinengoth: you have an integrated graphics card, that's why the game is slow
#278 [06:30] <Calinou> you have enough RAM though
#279 [06:31] <Calinou> reduce view distance, disable clouds, set graphics to fast
#280 [06:31] <Maschinengoth> but why it turns out after months of playing?
#281 [06:31] <Maschinengoth> it was evertything okay before.....and its even with default textures
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#283 [06:35] <Calinou> Maschinengoth: make sure your laptop is plugged in while playing
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#285 [06:35] <Calinou> when it is unplugged it might switch to power save mode, reducing performance
#286 [06:36] <Maschinengoth> its connected to the power
#287 [06:36] <Calinou> disable windows aero, too
#288 [06:36] <Calinou> increases performance quite a lot
#289 [06:37] <Calinou> (i'm not on windows, no idea where this option is, it should be somewhere in the "apparence" control panel)
#290 [06:37] <Andrio> Personalisation
#291 [06:38] <Maschinengoth> but my performance was enough for aero, minecraft, converting videos....at the same time.....
#292 [06:38] <Andrio> You change to a theme that doesn't support Aero.
#293 [06:38] <Calinou> the windows basic one should work :P
#294 [06:38] <Calinou> Maschinengoth: yes but you don't want to enable desktop effects when you play games ;)
#295 [06:38] <Calinou> be happy, compositing destroys performance even more on linux ;)
#296 [06:44] <Maschinengoth> the task manager says im using 2,3 Gb RAM (minecraft on fancy, far render, windows aero on), and 30% of my CPU.....
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#301 [06:49] <Max> hello
#302 [06:49] <Max> need help in german please
#303 [06:50] <Max> how can i login change from emailadress to username?
#304 [06:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> Max: you cant
#305 [06:59] <Max> this is very bad, when i delet my emailadress
#306 [06:59] <Max> delete
#307 [07:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> Max: what's your actual problem
#308 [07:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> Max: you deleted your email and now cant login?
#309 [07:04] <Max> no, if i delte my adress, i dont want use a adress, who has another person like me, because i delete my adress befor 2 jyears
#310 [07:04] <Max> and now another person take my old adress
#311 [07:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> Max: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
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#313 [07:05] <Max> i now that article, but i want use my PlayerName as LOGIN, not mailadress
#314 [07:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> Max: if you converted your account to a mojang account, i dont believe you can
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#316 [07:06] <Max> why? what crazypeople from minecraft do that, that i cant it ?
#317 [07:06] <Max> they havent not much brain in head
#318 [07:07] <Max> they want money and aoft paying supportt iss bullshit
#319 [07:07] <Max> after paying
#320 [07:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> Max: this is not official support
#321 [07:07] <Max> sorry my english, iam german
#322 [07:07] <Necrodoom> Max: OR: you could not delete your email for not reason
#323 [07:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> its ok
#324 [07:07] <Necrodoom> no*
#325 [07:08] <Max> and where is tthe offical support?
#326 [07:08] <Max> nowhere, because iam paying? ;)
#327 [07:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> Max: help.mojang.com
#328 [07:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> open a ticket there
#329 [07:08] <Max> ok, i try, thank u :)
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#344 [08:24] <jordonbc> hi
#345 [08:25] <jordonbc> anyone there i need help
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#347 [08:26] <jordonbc> hi i need help
#348 [08:27] <jordonbc> anyone there?
#349 [08:28] <Andrio> Just ask your question.
#350 [08:28] <benhunter09> ^
#351 [08:33] <jordonbc> when i play minecraft on my laptop i login then it when it logs in it closes it self then a notepad pops up saying "a fatal error has been detected by java" why is this?
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#354 [08:35] <Eldaion> hello
#355 [08:35] <Eldaion> i'd have a question about the dragon egg:
#356 [08:35] <Eldaion> can it teleport inside the obsidian towers/end stone/the portal?
#357 [08:36] <Necrodoom> never had it do that
#358 [08:36] <Necrodoom> mostly falls off the island for me
#359 [08:36] <Eldaion> i made it teleport from the tiny bedrock tower it appeared on to get it somewhere where i could use the torch trick to collect it
#360 [08:36] <Eldaion> but it doesn't seem to be anywhere
#361 [08:36] <Necrodoom> you sure it didnt simply fell off the island?
#362 [08:37] <Eldaion> i made a hole 9 blocks deep beneath the portal and have covered about 35x35 area centered on it with branch mining
#363 [08:37] <Eldaion> how far it can teleport?
#364 [08:37] <Necrodoom> says on minecraft wiki, did you check that?
#365 [08:37] <Eldaion> my portal is pretty much at the middle of the island
#366 [08:37] <Eldaion> i did check the wiki
#367 [08:38] <Eldaion> that's why i did my mining operation
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#369 [08:38] <Eldaion> it should be in that area unless it teleported inside an obsidian tower
#370 [08:38] <Necrodoom> i dont think the obsidian towers are hollow
#371 [08:40] <Eldaion> the edges of the island are roughly 100 blocks away from my portal
#372 [08:40] <Eldaion> but if the towers are hollow i'll punch a hole in them
#373 [08:40] <Eldaion> but this thing can't replace an opaque block by teleporting into it then?
#374 [08:44] <Eldaion> the towers are not hollow
#375 [08:44] <Eldaion> they're solid obsidian all the way
#376 [08:45] <jordonbc> when i start minecraft i log in then it closes it self then it brings up a notepad saying "a fatal error has been detected by java"
#377 [08:45] <jordonbc> why is this?
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#379 [08:48] <FLHerne> jordonbc: What version of java are you using?
#380 [08:48] <DarkCastleLord> Hi. I can't seem to make a minecraft username when registering for a new account. I had a old account, bu I let my brother have it, so I created a new one for myself, but wasn't able to create a username?
#381 [08:49] <jordonbc> i am using 32 and 64 bit
#382 [08:49] <FLHerne> jordonbc: Java 6? 7?
#383 [08:50] <FLHerne> jordonbc: Could you pastebin the exact error message please?
#384 [08:50] <FLHerne> ??> jordonbc pastebin
#385 [08:50] <VoxelHead> jordonbc: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#387 [08:51] <jordonbc> sorry i cant im on my pc
#388 [08:52] <mike_> unable to play the game. paid for account this morning. if unable to connect, please cancel my membership
#389 [08:52] <FLHerne> mike_: What prevents you from playing?
#390 [08:53] <mike_> password and user names will not connect and it does not conncet to servers
#391 [08:54] <FLHerne> mike_: There have been transient bugs with the login servers for a while, but I think they're working at the moment
#392 [08:55] <FLHerne> Are you sure you entered the right username/password? [/obviousquestion]
#393 [08:55] <jordonbc> my java version is 6 standerd edition
#394 [08:55] <mike_> how do log into the game? and what is Mojang? we've had to change password two times...
#395 [08:55] <mike_> how do log into the game? and what is Mojang? we've had to change password two times...
#396 [08:55] * FLHerne doesn't know much about the account system :-/
#396 [08:55] <FLHerne> Mojang are the company who produce Minecraft
#397 [08:56] <FLHerne> Newish Minecraft accounts are now handled through their centralised account system
#398 [08:56] <mike_> Is there a phone # for support?
#399 [08:56] <jordonbc> my java version is 6 standard edition
#400 [08:56] <FLHerne> jordonbc: Java 7 often seems to work better, without the detailed error there isn't much more I can suggest
#401 [08:57] <jordonbc> thanks
#402 [08:57] <mike_> How do I cancel this membership?
#403 [08:57] <FLHerne> mike_: I don't believe so. The official support method is via help.mojang.com
#404 [08:57] <FLHerne> Mojang don't normally do refunds except in unusual circumstances, I'm afraid
#405 [08:58] <mike_> that's bad business!!
#406 [08:58] <FLHerne> Us lot (me at the moment, rather quiet here today) are only volunteer bored people :-/
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#408 [08:58] <DarkCastleLord> Any help??
#409 [08:59] <FLHerne> DarkCastleLord: As I said to someone else, accounts aren't really my thing :-/
#410 [08:59] <FLHerne> If you hang around, someone who does know might pop up
#411 [09:00] <DarkCastleLord> ok, but I really can't see a place to choose a username... not even when registering. But I'll wait around a little
#412 [09:00] <Necrodoom> you choose a username when getting premium, i remember
#413 [09:00] <Necrodoom> which kinda destroys classic
#414 [09:01] <DarkCastleLord> I've had a account before, which allowed me to play mineshafter (didn't bother buying at the time) and then I could choose username
#415 [09:01] <DarkCastleLord> without beeing premium
#416 [09:02] <Necrodoom> ...
#417 [09:03] <DarkCastleLord> do you know about mineshafter??
#418 [09:03] <Necrodoom> a way to pirate minecraft, yes
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#420 [09:04] <Eldaion> so is there any way to figure out what happened to my dragon egg?
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#422 [09:05] <DarkCastleLord> Necrodoom: yes, but you have to have a minecraft account anyway. but my point... I can't configure my username at all. But if i can when buying the game again, I'll do that :)
#423 [09:06] <Eldaion> the obsidian towers aren't hollow and if it only teleports within a 31x31x15 cube and not into an opaque block i should have found it already
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#428 [09:18] <frederik298> I have a question
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#430 [09:19] <Eldaion> does anyone even know if it can teleport into a solid block ie replace a solid block by teleporting?
#431 [09:19] <frederik298> when to get the update 1.5 expected?
#432 [09:19] <jordonbc_> done it heres the notepad error
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#434 [09:20] <frederik298> when to get the update 1.5 expected??
#435 [09:20] <jman6495> Hey everyone, Having some Serious problems with Minecraft and OpenGL here :s
#436 [09:20] <frederik298> what?
#437 [09:21] <jordonbc_> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment
#438 [09:22] <jman6495> I have an ATI Radeon Mobility 4330, Every time i start minecraft it tells me that my graphics drivers are outdated, and that it could not find an advanced opengl mode, thing is i have tried the Latest AMD ones, The ones from my manufacturer (DELL), and the latest microsoft windows update ones
#439 [09:22] <jman6495> none of them work
#440 [09:22] <jordonbc_> Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows
#441 [09:24] <jordonbc_> can someone help me
#442 [09:26] <jman6495> don't know if anyone is here :s
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#444 [09:29] <cj_hamster> I just purchased a new account to play minecraft. However, when I attemtp to click on the profile I get a message: "our servers are working a bit too hard, please check back later."
#445 [09:29] <cj_hamster> And, when trying to login to play Minecraft it says "login failed"
#446 [09:29] <cj_hamster> what did I do wrong?
#447 [09:29] <jordonbc_> when i run mc i login then it updates then it closes it self then notepad opens and says that a fatal error has been detected by java
#448 [09:30] <Necrodoom> cj_hamster: minecraft servers are overloaded
#449 [09:30] <Necrodoom> cj_hamster: again
#450 [09:30] <jordonbc_> when i run mc i login then it updates then it closes it self then notepad opens and says that a fatal error has been detected by java
#451 [09:30] <cj_hamster> it has happened every time since last night?
#452 [09:30] <cj_hamster> when should I try again?
#453 [09:30] <cj_hamster> thanks for the help by the way
#454 [09:30] <Necrodoom> cj_hamster: its basically on/off for the last week right now
#455 [09:31] <Necrodoom> basically try to connect until it works
#456 [09:31] <cj_hamster> i see. Is the account not validated yet, is that why it says login failed?
#457 [09:31] <cj_hamster> my other account has been working
#458 [09:32] <Necrodoom> hm
#459 [09:32] <jordonbc_> when i run mc i login then it updates then it closes it self then notepad opens and says that a fatal error has been detected by java
#460 [09:32] <Necrodoom> no idea then
#461 [09:32] <Eldaion> is there a way to turn cheats on in survival single player so i could give myself dragon egg as it doesn't seem to be obtainable in without cheats in my save (i made it teleport once and it completely disappeared)?
#462 [09:33] <jordonbc_> when i run mc i login then it updates then it closes it self then notepad opens and says that a fatal error has been detected by java
#463 [09:33] <Necrodoom> Eldaion: you could launch lan server with cheats enabled
#464 [09:33] <jordonbc_> why is this?
#465 [09:34] <Eldaion> with the same world and then return to single player?
#466 [09:34] <Necrodoom> start lan server, spawn item, quit and return to singleplayer
#467 [09:34] <jordonbc_> can someone help me?
#468 [09:35] <jordonbc_> when i run mc i login then it updates then it closes it self then notepad opens and says that a fatal error has been detected by java
#469 [09:36] <jordonbc_> why is this happening?
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#471 [09:38] <jman6495> any idea on the graphics trouble i'm having ?
#472 [09:38] <jman6495> also is there a way i can contact mojang directly ?
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#474 [09:40] <jman6495> hello ac3xx
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#476 [09:40] <ac3xx> hi
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#483 [09:57] <NinjaKirby> !login
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#499 [10:37] <Tumu> hey can i have some minecraft crashing help please
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#504 [10:50] <Calinou> Tumu: don't ask to ask, ask away... what did you do when the game crash? what operating system do you use?
#505 [10:51] <Tumu> I reinstalled java and the jdk, i fixed the environment variables, i reinstalled mc, forced update, deleted .minecraft
#506 [10:51] <Tumu> and windows 7 professional
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#510 [10:52] <Tumu> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1595841-minecraft-error/ thats the new topic i posted today
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#512 [10:55] <Tumu> Calinou, ^
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#515 [10:58] <Calinou> access violations have nothing to do with java paths :P
#516 [10:59] <Tumu> huh?
#517 [10:59] <Tumu> i didnt mention access violations
#518 [10:59] <Calinou> ??> Tumu win/dxdiag
#519 [10:59] <VoxelHead> Tumu: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#520 [10:59] <VoxelHead> Tumu: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#521 [10:59] <Calinou> your pastebin mentions an access violation
#522 [10:59] <Tumu> well Calinou thats what the generated file contains
#523 [10:59] <Tumu> i didnt make it
#524 [11:00] <Calinou> yes
#525 [11:00] <Tumu> http://pastebin.com/kVsjfX0W
#526 [11:00] <Tumu> thats the dxdiag sht
#527 [11:00] <Calinou> ok, thanks
#528 [11:01] <Calinou> erm, your computer, especially your graphics card, is VERY old
#529 [11:01] <Calinou> did minecraft ever work?
#530 [11:01] <Tumu> yes
#531 [11:01] <Tumu> always worked before
#532 [11:02] <Calinou> might want to try using the .jar launcher: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#533 [11:02] <Calinou> (put on desktop, right click > open with... > java)
#534 [11:02] <Tumu> ok let me see
#535 [11:02] <Tumu> thx
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#537 [11:09] <Tumu> no use Calinou
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#550 [11:28] <tbrews> I can't get any of my controls to work
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#552 [11:29] <Blueballz83> Does anybody know how to fix a "minecraft is running out of memory crash"?
#553 [11:29] <tbrews> blueball do you know how to make the controls work for the online minecraft game.
#554 [11:30] <Blueballz83> Yes
#555 [11:30] <tbrews> I'm trying to help my grandson play this game and none of the controls do what they say they are supposed to
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#558 [11:31] <Blueballz83> Go to your pause menu, go to options and go to controls
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#560 [11:32] <tbrews> I've done that
#561 [11:32] <Blueballz83> How many computers do you have in your household?
#562 [11:33] <tbrews> two
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#564 [11:33] <Blueballz83> Ok do both of them have Minecraft?
#565 [11:33] <tbrews> No just my grandsons
#566 [11:35] <Blueballz83> Ok what I suggest doing is download it on the other computer, and if the controls work on the computer then there is something wrong with your grandson's computer
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#568 [11:36] <Wheelman2008> hello
#569 [11:36] <Wheelman2008> I just purchased minecraft
#570 [11:36] <Blueballz83> cool
#571 [11:36] <Wheelman2008> and when i try to download MAC version it says the file is damaged
#572 [11:36] <Wheelman2008> i have tried multiple times
#573 [11:37] <Wheelman2008> first time it asked me to download a content, which it did
#574 [11:37] <Wheelman2008> but i cannot download the actual game due to the file being damaged... please help
#575 [11:37] <Blueballz83> Ok how many computers do you have at home?
#576 [11:37] <Wheelman2008> i have two at home but i am not at home... i am in a hotel
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#578 [11:38] <oldtopman> ??> Wheelman2008 mac/gatekeeper
#579 [11:38] <VoxelHead> Wheelman2008: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#580 [11:38] <Wheelman2008> k
#581 [11:38] <Wheelman2008> k
#582 [11:38] <Wheelman2008> stand by let me try that
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#585 [11:38] <George> I have two computers and I purchased the premium version (i think) and the other computer does not have the premium version. Can two children on the two computers use the one premium account if not using multiplayer online...
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#587 [11:39] <Wheelman2008> “Minecraft” is damaged and can’t be opened. You should move it to the Trash. still get htis error
#588 [11:40] <Blueballz83> No I am afraid that 2 people can't play on 1 account at the same time.
#589 [11:40] <oldtopman> ??< index
#590 [11:40] <oldtopman> ??> Wheelman2008 mac/gatekeeper/disable
#591 [11:40] <VoxelHead> Wheelman2008: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#592 [11:41] <George> thank you blueball....does that mean I should purchase another premium version for the other computer with a differnet id...email...etc so that the one child can have the same features when building in minecraft?
#593 [11:41] <Blueballz83> Does anybody know how 2 fix a "Minecraft memory" crash?
#594 [11:42] * Lord_Ralex is now known as Gone_Ralex
#595 [11:42] <Blueballz83> That is recommended
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#597 [11:43] <oldtopman> ??> Blueballz83 moreram
#598 [11:43] <oldtopman> whoops
#599 [11:43] <George> was that "That is recommended" meant for "George"....if so....thank you again Blueball
#600 [11:43] <Blueballz83> You must buy a 2nd acccount to have them both play at the same time George
#601 [11:43] <oldtopman> ??> Blueballz83 win/client/moreram
#602 [11:43] <VoxelHead> Blueballz83: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#603 [11:43] <VoxelHead> Blueballz83: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
#604 [11:44] <Blueballz83> Are talking to me VoxelHead?
#605 [11:45] <George> Yes....they each have their own buildings and such....I assume they have been playing offline...I purschase the one premium account the girl has more features on her computer that the boy. I will just purchase another account for him to play with the features. Is that correct?
#606 [11:45] <oldtopman> Blueballz83: Yes, he's talking to you.
#607 [11:46] <Blueballz83> Yes
#608 [11:46] <Blueballz83> That is correct George
#609 [11:46] <oldtopman> Blueballz83: Incorrect.
#610 [11:46] <George> Thanks Blueball...I am going to purchase it for the other computer now......thanks again.
#611 [11:46] <oldtopman> George: Two people can share an account, but they cannot play at the same time.
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#613 [11:47] <George> Thanks guys....much appreciated....the children love minecraft 10 years old and 8 years old....they love it.
#614 [11:47] <oldtopman> heh. Glad to help!
#615 [11:47] <Blueballz83> You are welcome George have a nice day!
#616 [11:48] <George> Thanks guys....see you later if I have a problem...Thank you very much
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#620 [11:58] <keithstone> how do i share to facebook on xbox 360?
#621 [11:58] <keithstone> the option is gone from the pause menu
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#623 [12:01] <keithstone> does anyone know how to share to facebook on the xbox 360 version?
#624 [12:01] <keithstone> or do they know if it was disabled?
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#626 [12:01] <sluggo> i need help with a black screen problem
#627 [12:02] <keithstone> the sharing screenshot option is still on the how to play menu but the the y button is not there anymore
#628 [12:03] <sluggo> what?..
#629 [12:03] <keithstone> i am trying to get some help withthe share to facebook option
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#633 [12:03] <keithstone> this site sucks nobody helps
#634 [12:04] <Necrodoom> site?
#635 [12:04] <Liam> Hello, when i try loading up my mincraft (on a mac), it gets stuck at the mojang loading screen, anyone please help!
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#637 [12:04] <keithstone> where is the minecraft support staff when you need them?
#638 [12:04] <iMojo_> exactly!
#639 [12:04] <keithstone> this is bullshit
#640 [12:05] <keithstone> come on is anyone going to respond
#641 [12:05] <Guest72498> probably not
#642 [12:05] <Hg> Hello.
#643 [12:05] <iMojo_> ive got a black screen problem, i bought the game yesterday and carnt find help ive tryed all the ways ive seen on youtube and 0% of them worked:(
#644 [12:05] <Necrodoom> >unoffical IRC support
#645 [12:06] <iMojo_> what?..
#646 [12:06] <Necrodoom> this is an unoffical support
#647 [12:06] <benhunter09> People here volunteer
#648 [12:06] <Necrodoom> no body here is from mojang
#649 [12:06] <iMojo_> how do i get to the offiacial one?
#650 [12:06] <Hg> is that passive aggressive bot still here, i haven't come in here in ages
#651 [12:06] <iMojo_> offical*
#652 [12:07] <Necrodoom> mojang support is on help.moang site, somewhere
#653 [12:07] <keithstone> this is worthless if it is unofficial
#654 [12:07] <Hg> http://help.mojang.com
#655 [12:07] <Necrodoom> but, if you want an answer
#656 [12:07] <Necrodoom> you have to wait atleast a month
#657 [12:07] <keithstone> especially if noone knows what the fuck to do
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#659 [12:07] <Hg> that's official, but you probably won't get an answer, mojang has basically no support staff.
#660 [12:07] <iMojo_> there is no help on the mojang site that can help me with my black screen problem tho?
#661 [12:07] <Necrodoom> you could try the FAQ
#662 [12:08] <Necrodoom> but i doubt it has anything worth your time
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#664 [12:08] <iMojo_> ive tryed it and your guess is right!
#665 [12:08] <Hg> Alright, time to get my patience on, it's time for #minecrafthelp
#666 [12:09] <DreadLindwyrm> iMojo_: well, have you checked the basics, like making sure video drivers and such are upto date, and that you have enough RAM?
#667 [12:09] <iMojo_> yep theyre all up to date and ive got enough RAM
#668 [12:10] <DreadLindwyrm> It's a good start. You wouldn't believe how many people don't check.
#669 [12:10] <iMojo_> thats exactly what someone said on youtube
#670 [12:10] <DreadLindwyrm> At what stage does it blackscreen?
#671 [12:10] <iMojo_> after the done loading part
#672 [12:12] <DreadLindwyrm> OK. Sometimes it can take a short while to get to the Mojang screen, and then the game menus.
#673 [12:12] <DreadLindwyrm> How long does it hang in a black screen?
#674 [12:13] <iMojo_> 5 seconds then the launcher shuts down and i get a notepad doc on my desktop with a mini core dump error details
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#676 [12:14] <iMojo_> somethimes it shuts down instantly after the blackscreen
#677 [12:15] <DreadLindwyrm> OK. I'm not good with those error messages, but if you can post a copy up with a pastebin service I'm sure someone could look at it.
#678 [12:15] <DreadLindwyrm> http://pastebin.com/
#679 [12:16] <iMojo_> okay
#680 [12:16] <Hg> I might be able to help if you paste it there.
#681 [12:16] <DreadLindwyrm> Copy the details into there, submit it, and give us the link.
#682 [12:16] <iMojo_> illl do both
#683 [12:17] <iMojo_> # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x52c1b507, pid=3472, tid=1656 # # JRE version: 7.0_09-b05 # Java VM: Java HotSpot™ Client VM (23.5-b02 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [atioglx1.dll+0x3fb507] atiPPHSN+0x356267 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows # # If you would
#684 [12:18] <iMojo_> that didnt paste right?
#685 [12:18] <benhunter09> Put it on http://pastebin.com/
#686 [12:19] <Hg> Don't paste it here, but I think I see what the issue is already.
#687 [12:19] <Hg> iMojo_, have you upgraded your graphics drivers?
#688 [12:19] <iMojo_> http://pastebin.com/0x2jCYFu
#689 [12:20] <iMojo_> i dont know how to + im using my nans computer and dont know which kind i have
#690 [12:20] <Hg> You should grab the latest version from amd's website.
#691 [12:21] <iMojo_> how to i get my graphic drivers showing on my screen?
#692 [12:21] <Hg> ?? directx
#693 [12:21] <iMojo_> and i will now
#694 [12:21] <Hg> ?? help
#695 [12:21] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#696 [12:21] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#697 [12:21] <Hg> ??< index
#698 [12:22] <Hg> ??> iMojo_ win/dxdiag
#699 [12:22] <VoxelHead> iMojo_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#700 [12:22] <VoxelHead> iMojo_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#703 [12:24] <iMojo_> http://pastebin.com/ahZXnu4j
#704 [12:25] <Calinou> your computer is ver yold..
#705 [12:25] <Calinou> very old*
#706 [12:25] <iMojo_> i know its my gandperants PC
#707 [12:25] <Calinou> not only you should have at least 2GB RAM to run the game with larger render distances, your graphics card is very old
#708 [12:25] <Calinou> if it's a desktop pc then you can put a better GPU :P
#709 [12:26] <iMojo_> a better what?.. sorry but im new to all this
#710 [12:26] <Calinou> erm, better computer, because the cpu isn't very strong too
#711 [12:26] <benhunter09> Graphics Processing Unit
#712 [12:26] <Calinou> my netbook's CPU is as good as yours :P
#713 [12:26] <Calinou> what benhunter09 said
#714 [12:26] <Hg> You're going to have trouble running the game.
#715 [12:27] <Calinou> cpu is central processing unit
#716 [12:27] <Eddie> My CPU can lift 200 lbs
#717 [12:27] <Eddie> it is strong
#718 [12:27] <Hg> iMojo_, here are the drivers if you want to give it a try, but it's either going to be COMPLETELY BROKEN or BARELY RUN http://www2.ati.com/drivers/6-11-pre-r300_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_38185.exe
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#720 [12:28] <iMojo_> will them drivers damage this pc?
#721 [12:28] <Hg> No.
#722 [12:29] <iMojo_> okay
#723 [12:29] <Hg> i went from a first-gen p4 desktop to a quad i7 a year ago. it was nice.
#724 [12:29] <Calinou> when you're going to play 3D games you need a fairly good computer :P
#725 [12:29] <iMojo_> does i7 stand for intelcore 7?
#726 [12:29] <Hg> nah, it's intel core i7
#727 [12:30] <Calinou> intel core i7 is the full name of the CPU
#728 [12:30] <Calinou> they're the highest end CPUs from intel
#729 [12:30] <iMojo_> ohh i was close tho
#730 [12:30] <iMojo_> though*
#731 [12:30] <Calinou> eg. intel core i7 2600K, K means unlocked (can be overclocked without losing warranty), 2 means 2nd gen (= sandy bridge), 600 is the number (usually higher = better)
#732 [12:31] <Hg> *highest end desktop/mobile cpu
#733 [12:31] <Eddie> i7 means 4 cores, 8 threads. i5 means 4 cores, 4 threads. i3 means 2 cores, 4 threads.
#734 [12:31] <Eddie> Correct me if I'm wrong.
#735 [12:31] <iMojo_> ive just tryed to use that driver thing you sent but i got a warning saying it may contain viruses / malicous software?
#736 [12:31] <Hg> iMojo_ it's from the manufacturer of your graphics card, it's safe
#737 [12:32] <iMojo_> okay
#738 [12:32] <Eddie> They'd get in trouble if their drivers had viruses.
#739 [12:32] <Hg> my brother's laptop has an ivy bridge i5, that has 2 cores and 4 threads
#740 [12:32] <Eddie> hmm mobile.
#741 [12:33] <Hg> his other laptop has a first-gen sandy bridge i7 with 2 cores and 4 threads (i think)
#742 [12:33] <iMojo_> would minecraft work well on a vaio laptop?
#743 [12:33] <Hg> It'd depend on the specs, iMojo_.
#744 [12:33] <Calinou> iMojo_: sony hardware is overpriced
#745 [12:33] <Eddie> So what I said should only be right for the desktop line.
#746 [12:34] <Calinou> personally I stay away from sony, acer, toshiba and apple
#747 [12:34] <Calinou> toshiba can't even spell "prot�g�" right :>
#748 [12:34] <Hg> opinions
#749 [12:34] <Calinou> (oh and also, stay away from ultrabooks. they're overpriced, by far)
#750 [12:34] <Hg> i'd say that about sony hardware in 2004
#751 [12:34] <Hg> i think it's changed a bit
#752 [12:34] <Calinou> Hg: not really
#753 [12:35] <Eddie> Shouldn't ultrabooks cost less?
#754 [12:35] <Calinou> lol no, they don't
#755 [12:35] <iMojo_> okay im looking for a laptop/PC i can buy to use minecraft on without any problems
#756 [12:35] <Calinou> (some i3, 4GB RAM, integrated GPU) 13" ultrabook: �900
#757 [12:35] <iMojo_> what a bout dell or lenovo?
#758 [12:35] <Calinou> (some i5, 8GB RAM, nvidia 545M) 17" laptop: �700
#759 [12:35] <Calinou> you choose
#760 [12:35] <Calinou> iMojo_: dell is overpriced too, lenovo is ok
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#762 [12:36] <iMojo_> okay because my dad has a spare lenovo laptop left over
#763 [12:36] <Calinou> another opinion: i'd rather buy a laptop with a nvidia graphics card rather than amd. they tend to work faster on minecraft and with less issues, because nvidia's opengl implementation is better... also nvidia doesn't deprecate their GPUs 9 months after releasing them like AMD does :P
#764 [12:36] <iMojo_> and he has a dell one
#765 [12:37] <iMojo_> okay
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#767 [12:37] <iMojo_> its done my pc will restart then ill come back if i need more help:)
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#769 [12:37] <Hg> using an amd radeon hd 6750m right now, it performs decently for most games
#770 [12:38] <Eddie> Using the mighty Intel HD 4000. It performs reasonably well :p
#771 [12:38] * Hg switches gfx cards
#771 [12:38] <Hg> using intel hd 3000 :3
#772 [12:39] <Eddie> Buuuut 3 < 4 xD
#773 [12:39] <Hg> ungh
#774 [12:39] * Hg steals macbook air
#774 [12:39] <Calinou> integrated GPUs are not that good
#775 [12:39] <Hg> ok hd 4000 time
#776 [12:40] <Calinou> a �65 GPU like a 9800gtx beats an i7 integrated GPU..
#777 [12:40] <Hg> haha, gaming.
#778 [12:40] <Calinou> Hg: "4650" is the numbers that make me stay away from amd..
#779 [12:40] <Calinou> its linux (and windows?) driver was deprecated NINE MONTHS after this gpu's release
#780 [12:40] <Eddie> They are good and will only get better.
#781 [12:40] <Calinou> this means you can only use the open source driver which is 3x slower
#782 [12:41] <Eddie> Of course they're not meant for heavy gaming.
#783 [12:41] <Calinou> Eddie: also, amd fired a lot of employees recently, including people from the open source research center
#784 [12:41] <Calinou> (they basically closed it :P)
#785 [12:41] <Hg> i've played optimized tf2 with >60fps on an hd 4000, it was pretty great actually
#786 [12:41] <Calinou> they will be gone in a few years, they sell almost no CPUs to OEMs today, even less mobile CPUs
#787 [12:42] <Eddie> Shares have dropped below $2 in November
#788 [12:42] <Calinou> only upside of intel is the official driver being open source, but it is still slower compared to the windows driver
#789 [12:42] <Eddie> When it becomes stable without graphical glitches, I will switch to the Intel SNA driver
#790 [12:42] <Eddie> it's supposedly much faster.
#791 [12:42] <Hg> my linux laptop has an ati rage with 4mb of ram
#792 [12:42] <Hg> hehe
#793 [12:43] <Calinou> seriously...? or was it a joke :P
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#795 [12:43] * Calinou plays on linux only, yet he has good hardware
#795 [12:43] <Calinou> no windows on my computers
#796 [12:43] <Calinou> only curtains
#797 [12:43] <Hg> nope, here let me find a pic
#798 [12:43] <Hg> ppc debain
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#800 [12:43] <Hg> *debian
#801 [12:44] <iMojo_> back
#802 [12:45] * Calinou applauses
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#803 [12:45] <Calinou> AMD GPUs need firmware, installing firmware is fun in debian
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#805 [12:45] <Hg> can't find a pic, trust me, it's a first-gen ibook from 1999
#806 [12:46] <iMojo_> i still have a black screen problem:(
#807 [12:46] <Hg> you've done all you can, minecraft isn't going to run on the computer you're using
#808 [12:47] <imawesome531> I purchased minecraft online cannot get it to work dont know code. where do I find it
#809 [12:47] <Hg> found a pic of my old windows xp workstation though http://i.imgur.com/qzYIl.jpg
#810 [12:47] <iMojo_> okay then:(
#811 [12:48] <Hg> ??> imawesome531 accounts
#812 [12:48] <VoxelHead> imawesome531: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
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#814 [12:48] <JoeJig> Hello
#815 [12:48] <Hg> Hello
#816 [12:48] <iMojo_> imawesome531 if you bought it with a credit card check your emails for a message from mojang and it should be a reciept of your purchase!!
#817 [12:49] <iMojo_> imawesome531 and the code your looking for should be in that email
#818 [12:49] <Hg> I'm assuming they lost their password
#819 [12:50] <Hg> You can recover that by hitting "forgot password" when logging in to minecraft.net
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#821 [12:50] <Hg> and following the instructions
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#829 [12:58] <imawesome531> all I have for code on receipt from email is transaction ID and Merchant ID neither worked for it
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#831 [12:59] <Hg> Use the email/username and password you used to register.
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#834 [13:01] <imawesome531> went to supprt how do you email themI can log in to account but to play it says I need gift code # can't seem to find it
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#836 [13:02] <Hg> ??> imawesome531 support
#837 [13:02] <VoxelHead> imawesome531: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://help.mojang.com/
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#844 [13:07] <Frostic> good morning ppls
#845 [13:08] <Frostic> morning/night *
#846 [13:08] <benhunter09> Hi
#847 [13:08] <Frostic> hello benhunter09
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#860 [13:25] <bens> hello, i have downloaded minecraft and then I have run setup minecraft, a window dowloading appears and then black sceen. Someone can help me ?
#861 [13:27] <Frostic> try force update yet?
#862 [13:28] <Frostic> when you open minecraft there will be a button options above the login button click it then click force update then login
#863 [13:29] <bens> thanks Frostic, I will try that and I will come back soon
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#866 [13:31] <CatKiller> Hi there! I'm using OptiFine with "Chunk loading multicore" and I was getting the flickering issue so I disabled NVidia's 'Threaded optimization'. The issue is now resolved, but one thing I couldn't tell: Wouldn't that equate to simply disable the "Chunk loading multicore" at a lower level?
#867 [13:32] <CatKiller> Would it still use multiple cores for chunk loading even after disabling the NVidia option?
#868 [13:32] <roflzor> they dont offer mods help
#869 [13:32] <CatKiller> Or is it simpler to use Chunk loading 'smooth' or default
#870 [13:32] <CatKiller> oops, sorry
#871 [13:32] <Frostic> ?? mods
#872 [13:32] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#873 [13:32] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#874 [13:32] <CatKiller> didn't knpow
#875 [13:32] <roflzor> :P
#876 [13:32] <Frostic> please read VoxelHead
#877 [13:33] <roflzor> ?? mods
#878 [13:33] <CatKiller> Any particular mod channel around?
#879 [13:33] <roflzor> ah
#880 [13:33] <roflzor> it dont work for me :)
#881 [13:33] <bens> Frostic, thanks you very much, from my kids as it seems working better than before
#882 [13:33] <Frostic> your welcome bens
#883 [13:34] <roflzor> the last guy that helped me was kiugetski but hes not on the channel
#884 [13:34] <Frostic> roflzor there is a cooldown when using the bot. that way ppl cant flood using it.
#885 [13:35] <roflzor> ah ok :)
#886 [13:35] <Frostic> roflzor may i ask what issues you was having?
#887 [13:36] <roflzor> needed to make a lan server
#888 [13:36] <roflzor> he did it for me via teamviewer
#889 [13:36] <Frostic> and?
#890 [13:36] <roflzor> hes fast lol
#891 [13:36] <roflzor> solved in 2 mins
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#893 [13:36] <Frostic> it is working or no?
#894 [13:36] <roflzor> yup
#895 [13:36] <Frostic> nice.
#896 [13:37] <roflzor> :)
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#898 [13:38] <roflzor> ok i go back to halo 4 i need to die more haha
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#904 [13:39] <Guest97081> When we try to login, we get a message saying Minecraft has not downloaded. How do we play? We opened an account, paid for Minecraft, and the file seems to have downloaded onto my Mac.
#905 [13:40] <Frostic> CatKiller have you looked on youtube or the mods website/forum? if not please try. im sure they have a chat or irc help for optifine
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#907 [13:40] <Frostic> Guest5870 you on a mac?
#908 [13:40] <CatKiller> Frostic: I've looked several videos that explained how to 'fix' it, but not whether it would impact performance
#909 [13:41] <Frostic> ??> Guest5870 mac/gatekeeper
#910 [13:41] <VoxelHead> Guest5870: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#911 [13:41] <Frostic> if this dont work then you may need to disable gatekeeper totally
#912 [13:42] <Frostic> to do this follow this
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#914 [13:42] <Frostic> ??> Guest5870 mac/gatekeeper/documentation
#915 [13:42] <VoxelHead> Guest5870: (mac/gatekeeper/documentation) http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
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#919 [13:43] <Guest97081> I did the right-click/open thing. I get a window the has "Minecraft News". At the bottom is a place to log in. I put in account login and password and get "Login failed!" message.
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#921 [13:43] <Frostic> CatKiller i thought optifine is to fix preformance
#922 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Login Failed means your username/password is entered incorrectly
#923 [13:44] <Guest97081> Should I be getting a "Minecraft News" page when I try to open the app?
#924 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#925 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're putting in your email address as your username, if you're on a Mojang account
#926 [13:44] <Guest97081> Is username the email address I used to set up the account?
#927 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#929 [13:45] <Guest97081> Then I am putting in the correct username and password. I still get the Login Failed message and (Not downloaded). Am I missing a step to download the app to my Mac?
#930 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Nope. Login Failed means the username/password combination is incorrect
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#932 [13:46] <Guest97081> I see the app and a zip file in my downloads
#933 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Try a password reset using: https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#934 [13:46] <Frostic> Guest97081 what is your username? not your email
#935 [13:48] <Guest97081> That is the only username I ever set?
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#937 [13:48] <Frostic> its the username you made when making your account
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#939 [13:48] <Guest97081> I just tried logging out and back into minecraft on the web and can get into my account fine using the same username (email address) and password.
#940 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Try a password reset. You can still reset it to the same password you used before
#941 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#942 [13:49] <Guest97081> Hold on please. I will try...
#943 [13:50] <Frostic> yes but what is your username? with it i can see if your purchase was successful
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#945 [13:50] <JoeJig> Hello
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#947 [13:50] <JoeJig> hi
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#951 [13:52] <Guest97081> When I went back in to reset my password there was a message I had an unredeemed download. I redeemed it and now things are working. Thanks so much for the help!
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#957 [13:54] <sammydog15> i cant seem purchase minecraft and have used two separate forms of cards. How do I make payment through paypal. Minecraft tells me to wait 24 hr and It's be over that time
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#961 [13:55] <Frostic> sammydog15 http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
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#963 [13:55] <Frostic> please read the article and follow its links
#964 [13:56] <sammydog15> <Frostic>than you i will try it again.
#965 [13:57] <Frostic> ?? volunteer
#966 [13:57] <VoxelHead> volunteer: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time.
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#969 [13:57] <maxxflame> i need help with a crash report
#970 [13:57] <Frostic> maxxflame please paste it on pastebin and paste us a link to it in here
#971 [13:58] <Frostic> ?? paste
#972 [13:58] <Frostic> ?? pastebin
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#974 [13:58] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#975 [13:58] <benhunter09> Is Voxel a bot
#976 [13:58] <Frostic> yes
#977 [13:59] <sammydog15> I was hoping to try to make the payment using paypal, it says click "contact us" where is the contact us to click?
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#982 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> sammydog15 - Are you paying for an account for yourself, or a gift code for somebody else?
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#984 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Paypal is not available for the latter.
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#986 [14:00] <sammydog15> i'm using my credit card and debt card to pay for my 2 boys
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#988 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Are you logged into their accounts, or your own account to purchase it?
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#990 [14:01] <sammydog15> on of my boys has been able to get the premium account but not my other son. I'm using diffent laptops and using different forms of payment
#991 [14:02] <maxxflame> so i copy the text right?
#992 [14:02] <maxxflame> then i paste it in the paste bin then what?
#993 [14:02] <Frostic> ?? pastebin
#994 [14:02] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#995 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> sammydog15 - Hmm, if you're logged in under their account, do you see a Paypal option when choosing "Buy Now"?
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#997 [14:05] <weird69> hi gentlemen/ladies
#998 [14:05] <weird69> does anybody know what is the required bandwith to run a minecraft dedicated server for about 100 players?
#999 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Take about 100-150 Kbps per player.
#1000 [14:06] <Frostic> and a massive load of ram
#1001 [14:06] <sammydog15> it does, but payment is in Euros? in dollars. is the amount the same or more?
#1002 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> sammydog15 - More.
#1003 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> sammydog15 - It's 19.95 in euros, and 26.95 in US dollars
#1004 [14:07] <Frostic> sammydog15 use google to convert. so you see the price
#1005 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Mojang calculates a set amount in US dollars.
#1006 [14:07] <maxxflame> http://pastebin.com/6Pj1V6PM
#1007 [14:07] <maxxflame> here it is
#1008 [14:07] <sammydog15> is it same to make a payment?
#1009 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1010 [14:07] <maxxflame> heres my crash report k?
#1011 [14:07] <maxxflame> http://pastebin.com/6Pj1V6PM
#1012 [14:08] <sammydog15> ops.. SAFE to make a payment
#1013 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Looks like a forge/modloader crash
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#1015 [14:08] <maxxflame> sooooo what should i do i have FML i was making a modpack when it happened
#1016 [14:08] <Frostic> maxxflame modloader is broken. and well you should update it or remove it altogether
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#1018 [14:09] <maxxflame> I have FML so i should remove that?
#1019 [14:09] <Frostic> i dont know
#1020 [14:09] <Frostic> ?? mods
#1021 [14:09] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1022 [14:09] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1023 [14:10] <maxxflame> THAT DOSENT HELP ME!^ i just wanna know what i did wrong
#1024 [14:10] <maxxflame> because i cant read crash reports n stuff
#1025 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> What's wrong is that the mod or mods is crashing with modloader.
#1026 [14:10] <Frostic> contact the mod's creator WE DIDNT MAKE IT SO WE DONT KNOW!
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#1028 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> If you're programming the modpack yourself, you'll need to determine why that is
#1029 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> We're not programming support.
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#1031 [14:11] <maxxflame> oh i have forgemodloader and i tried to but im using a complimation of 30 or so mods and ik u guys could read the crash reports thats why i came here
#1032 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Sorry. It's not possible to determine which of your 30 mods is conflicting with each other.
#1033 [14:12] <Frostic> yes and we told you the issues
#1034 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> We can give you a general answer of, "It's modloader", as described by the crash report. It does not tell us specifically which mod is crashing
#1035 [14:13] <Frostic> now you know modloader is not conpatable with one of your mods. its now up to you to find wat one and fix it
#1036 [14:13] <maxxflame> ok so you think i should go to the maker of the modloader i have?
#1037 [14:13] <maxxflame> like go to the forge devers?
#1038 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> They'll most likely tell you the same thing
#1039 [14:13] <Frostic> i would yes
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#1041 [14:13] <maxxflame> k thanks
#1042 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Or more than likely, tell you to reinstall it fresh
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#1044 [14:14] <Frostic> yep
#1045 [14:15] <Frostic> ?? programming
#1046 [14:15] <Frostic> aaa should add that to the bot to list programming help channels :D
#1047 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Don't really get it that often.
#1048 [14:16] <Frostic> true
#1049 [14:16] <Frostic> true
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#1052 [14:20] <Snowman_> When I try to log into Minecraft, it just says updating minecraft and doesnt do anything after that
#1053 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Snowman - Paid, or demo?
#1054 [14:20] <Snowman_> paid
#1055 [14:21] <Snowman> :|
#1056 [14:21] <Snowman> Nice name
#1057 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Check your AV. We see AV packages block the download sometimes.
#1058 [14:21] <Snowman_> I even tried to reload minecraft
#1059 [14:22] <Snowman_> What am I looking for?
#1060 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> What AV do you run?
#1061 [14:23] <Snowman_> Man, I don't have a clue, I'm a newbie
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#1066 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Okay. You say Minecraft stops downloading at the "Downloading packages" stage. Does it stop on any specific file that you see?
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#1068 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.jar, or lwjgl.jar perhaps?
#1069 [14:24] <Coty> Hello?
#1070 [14:24] <Snowman_> Not that I can see. When I log in it goes in and then stops there
#1071 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> How far does the progress bar get?
#1072 [14:24] <Coty> Can
#1073 [14:24] <Snowman_> almost to the end
#1074 [14:25] <Coty> Can I get help here?
#1075 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Okay. Has it ever worked before Snowman?
#1076 [14:25] <Snowman_> minecraft.jar
#1077 [14:25] <Snowman_> yes it worked before
#1078 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Snowman - Have you tried a force update through the launcher's options menu?>
#1079 [14:25] <Snowman_> nope
#1080 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Try that real quick.
#1081 [14:25] <Snowman_> k
#1082 [14:25] <Coty> Hey GreyVulpine
#1083 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
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#1085 [14:26] <Coty> I have a world on my labtop but its about to go into the shop, is there a way to get the world onto my desktop?
#1086 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1087 [14:26] <Coty> How so?
#1088 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> What operating system do you run?
#1089 [14:26] <Coty> windows
#1090 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Both on the laptop and your desktop
#1091 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Windows for both?
#1092 [14:26] <Coty> 7
#1093 [14:26] <Coty> yes
#1094 [14:26] <Snowman_> it worked ty
#1095 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Snowman_ - Glad to hear it
#1096 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Coty - Are you on your laptop now?
#1097 [14:27] <Coty> Yes
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#1099 [14:27] <Coty> Both are on
#1100 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Coty - Go to your start menu. In the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1101 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. Inside, you'll see the saves folder.
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#1103 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> You'll copy that folder, to the same location on your desktop
#1104 [14:28] <Cael> anyone have a copy of the sphax Pure BDCraft texturepack for 1.4.2 or 1.4.5?
#1105 [14:28] <Coty> When I type it in and hit enter it opens the internet
#1106 [14:28] <Snowman> Or if you have a load of maps, just the save you wnat
#1107 [14:28] <Coty> I only have one
#1108 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Coty - You're typing in exactly: %appdata% ?
#1109 [14:28] <PermissionDenied> Just copy your %APPDATA%\.minecraft\saves folder to a thumb drive and dump the folder onto the same folder on your desktop.
#1110 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Coty - And pressing enter?
#1111 [14:28] <Coty> Yes
#1112 [14:28] <Cael> thier site is down (well firefix blocks a redirect attempt tp localhost)
#1113 [14:28] <Cael> *to
#1114 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> Coty - Hmm. Alright. Let's try a different way. On your keyboard, between the ctrl and alt keys is the windows key.
#1115 [14:29] <Coty> alright
#1116 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> Press your windows key and the R key at the same time to bring up the Run command
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#1118 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> In the run command, type in: %appdata%
#1119 [14:29] <Coty> Is there another way to open the run command?
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#1122 [14:29] <Snowman> search for run in the start menu
#1123 [14:30] <diana> i purchased minecraft cant login says wrong password
#1124 [14:30] * PermissionDenied wishes people used Linux. Run "ssh user@laptop tar cfvj - .minecraft/saves/ | tar xfvz -"
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#1125 [14:30] <Coty> Nothing comes up besides some documents : /
#1126 [14:30] <diana> no
#1127 [14:30] <PermissionDenied> diana, are you entering your password correctly?
#1128 [14:30] <Snowman> Try searching for appdata in the start menu
#1129 [14:30] <diana> yes and says wrong doesnt let me reset either
#1130 [14:31] <Coty> Found it, but theres only a folder labeled local
#1131 [14:31] <PermissionDenied> You are using your email as your username, right?
#1132 [14:31] <diana> what do u mean
#1133 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Coty - Go into local, do you see .minecraft?
#1134 [14:31] <diana> not email
#1135 [14:31] <Coty> A folder labeled
#1136 [14:31] <Coty> Temp
#1137 [14:31] <Coty> is the only thing in there
#1138 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> That's not it then
#1139 [14:31] <diana> no
#1140 [14:31] <Snowman> It should be in roaming
#1141 [14:31] <Coty> : /
#1142 [14:32] <PermissionDenied> diana, you need to use your email as your username due to changes made by Mojang if you purchased the account recently.
#1143 [14:32] <Coty> How do I find that?
#1144 [14:32] <diana> i already purchased \
#1145 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> Coty - Alright. Let's go the long way. Go to your start menu. Hit Computer. Then C: drive. Then your Users folder.
#1146 [14:32] <PermissionDenied> not recently?
#1147 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> Coty - Do you see your username's folder?
#1148 [14:32] <Coty> yes
#1149 [14:33] <Snowman> Ah, I think I know why there's no roaming
#1150 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Go inside, do you see an "appdata" folder?
#1151 [14:33] <diana> no
#1152 [14:33] <Snowman> Where there 2 results for searching appdata?
#1153 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> (it may be hidden by default)
#1154 [14:33] <Snowman> If so, check the second folder
#1155 [14:34] <Coty> How do i find hidden folders?
#1156 [14:34] <diana> no i dont see im not so good with computers
#1157 [14:34] <Snowman> Coty in the start menu search for Folder Options
#1158 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Coty - With the window open, press Alt. You should see a toolbar at the top. Hit "Tools", then "Folder options". Go to the view tab. check "Show hidden files and folders"
#1159 [14:35] <Coty> What window?
#1160 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> The window with your username folder
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#1162 [14:36] <Snowman> ...
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#1164 [14:37] <Snowman> Mojang should make Minecraft just install in program files
#1165 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> Then you can't distinguish between saves for different users.
#1166 [14:38] <Snowman> Put the saves in the My Documents folder
#1167 [14:39] <Snowman> Like any game does
#1168 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> Actually, quite a few games use %appdata% to save gamesaves
#1169 [14:39] <Snowman> True
#1170 [14:39] <Snowman> These days they do
#1171 [14:39] * GreyVulpine nods
#1171 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> You'll be hardpressed to find any modern game that doesn't nowadays
#1172 [14:39] <Snowman> It is useful, because it prevents having folders from 10248 games in your My Documents
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#1174 [14:40] <Snowman> But that's why there is a My Games folder
#1175 [14:40] <Snowman> Too bad no game uses that
#1176 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1177 [14:41] * Boreeas didn't know about ~/My Games and installed all games to ~/Games
#1177 [14:41] * GreyVulpine installs all games to ~/Steam/
#1177 [14:41] * GreyVulpine coughs.
#1177 [14:42] <Boreeas> You are in the steam beta?
#1178 [14:42] <Boreeas> You are in the steam beta?
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#1180 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Hah, nah.
#1181 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Haven't run *nix in a few years.
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#1189 [14:55] <John> Hello
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#1191 [14:56] <Guest43999> What?
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#1193 [14:56] <Guest43999> Well anyways...How do I make a world that me and my friend can access at the same time from my house to his house?
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#1197 [14:58] <StoneGolem> How do I make a world that me and my friend can play from our own houses and not being together?
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#1199 [14:59] <StoneGolem> Anyone?
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#1203 [15:01] <StoneGolem> Hello?
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#1206 [15:07] <carnal82> i can't download my game on my computer?? what should i do??
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#1208 [15:08] <carnal82> no? how can i do that?
#1209 [15:08] <carnal82> no? how can i do that?
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#1213 [15:12] <PermissionDenied> Boreeas, I'm in the beta
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#1215 [15:13] <johnle> How do u disable your debit card
#1216 [15:13] <Boreeas> PermissionDenied: And, does it work decently?
#1217 [15:14] <johnle> no
#1218 [15:14] <Boreeas> johnle: Phone your bank
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#1220 [15:15] <MrDariusz> Hello there :D
#1221 [15:15] <MrDariusz> Can i askyou guys for advice?
#1222 [15:15] <johnle> can u help me disable my debit card because it have been 2 day
#1223 [15:15] <johnle> yes
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#1225 [15:16] <MertenNor_> anyone want to play some some hunger games on my sever ?
#1226 [15:16] <Boreeas> johnle: We can't help you disable your card, you need to phone your bank
#1227 [15:16] <Boreeas> MertenNor_: Please don't advertise servers in here
#1228 [15:16] <MertenNor_> oh.. sorry..
#1229 [15:16] <Boreeas> johnle: Why do you want to disable your card, though?
#1230 [15:16] <Boreeas> MertenNor_: Check #smp
#1231 [15:16] <johnle> beacuse it wont let me purchches minecraft
#1232 [15:17] <PermissionDenied> Boreeas, yes
#1233 [15:17] <Boreeas> johnle: Then you don't want to disable it. Disabling your debit card means that you are unable to do anything with it - kind of counterproductive if you try to buy a game
#1234 [15:17] <PermissionDenied> johnle, have you tried using paypal
#1235 [15:18] <johnle> yes
#1236 [15:18] <PermissionDenied> call your bank and see what is wrong
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#1238 [15:19] <johnle> i have try it and they cant
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#1241 [15:21] <MrDariusz> Ok,i got another question. Can you guys tell me why my account lost premium status? I bought a game and played about 2 weeks and then pufffff, I've wrote tickets to mojang but there was no answer
#1242 [15:21] <MrDariusz> It's like 9 days w/o any answear
#1243 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> yo
#1244 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
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#1246 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
#1247 [15:23] <MrDariusz> but i bought it from mojang
#1248 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Then contact mojang, include your transaction ID, so they can look it up
#1249 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> They're still working on support tickets from Nov 24th, so it may take a little while for them to get to yours.
#1250 [15:24] <MrDariusz> Yeah, I've done it already
#1251 [15:24] <MrDariusz> ohh
#1252 [15:24] <MrDariusz> ok then
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#1268 [15:48] <Coty> Anyone there?
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#1270 [15:48] <oldtopman> ??> Coty ask
#1271 [15:48] <VoxelHead> Coty: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1272 [15:48] <VoxelHead> Coty: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1273 [15:48] <oldtopman> >_>
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#1277 [15:51] <Mastermindss> i set up a minecraft server. feel free to join:-) wunderland.no-ip.org
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#1279 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Please don't advertise here. Use #smp instead
#1280 [15:51] <oldtopman> Mastermindss: No advertising here. Try #smp
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#1282 [15:53] <Mastermindss> okay thanks
#1283 [15:53] <oldtopman> No problem.
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#1292 [16:04] <eXeDriN> hello guys since today i have a problem with my minecraft, iam running technic-launcher with better then tekkit mods and i have a problem with a class file of xycraft even tho nothing changed on my client since yesterday, and i have the problem since today
#1293 [16:04] <Grim_Reaper> ?? mods
#1294 [16:04] <eXeDriN> also iam the only one on the server experiencing that
#1295 [16:04] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1296 [16:04] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1297 [16:05] <eXeDriN> well i thought maybe someone knows about this error anyway
#1298 [16:05] <eXeDriN> http://pastebin.com/c1rTVZ5x
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#1301 [16:06] <Morrolan> Yes, Tekkit's maintainer might.
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#1303 [16:06] <Grim_Reaper> Indeed
#1304 [16:06] <Grim_Reaper> java.lang.IllegalStateException: Already tesselating! | also what? Tessalation o-o?
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#1307 [16:06] <Jhwarby> Guys, before you do your fancy ?? mods and that pops up vv I tried there, noone's answeringt.
#1308 [16:07] <Jhwarby> Hey guys, so I have the Ultimate SkyBlock plugin, seems OK, I tried using the island command, then this popped up http://pastie.org/5503657
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#1310 [16:07] * Grim_Reaper facepalms
#1310 [16:07] <Jhwarby> Lol
#1311 [16:07] <Morrolan> Jhwarby - How should we know anything about that plugin?
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#1313 [16:07] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah Jhwarby
#1314 [16:07] <Grim_Reaper> We're not the mod creators
#1315 [16:07] <Morrolan> Provided you tell me that, I'll provide you with a solution to your issue.
#1316 [16:07] <Jhwarby> I'm not expectiong anyone to, I just thought I'd throw it out there
#1317 [16:07] <Morrolan> That's a silly thing to do. .)
#1318 [16:08] <Grim_Reaper> ^ lol true
#1319 [16:08] <Jhwarby> Isn't it usually something wrong with the files and not really to do with the actualplugin?
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#1321 [16:08] <Grim_Reaper> The chances of us knowing is very unlikely
#1322 [16:08] <Morrolan> Similar to asking your bus driver how to build a plane.
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#1324 [16:08] <Morrolan> Sure, there might be an engineer in that same bus, but the chance is, uh, small. :D
#1325 [16:08] <Grim_Reaper> The only thing I can ever suggest is to try reinstall a mod from scratch with fresh untouched official files
#1326 [16:08] <Grim_Reaper> But thats it
#1327 [16:09] <Jhwarby> Morrolan: You said you had an answer?
#1328 [16:09] <Morrolan> Sorry, I don't know anything about planes.
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#1330 [16:09] <Jhwarby> ...
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#1332 [16:09] <sugoi> can gold pick diamond?
#1333 [16:09] <Morrolan> Should, yea.
#1334 [16:10] * Jhwarby stands in the corner with Grim_Reaper and facepalms.
#1334 [16:10] <Morrolan> IIRC gold is like iron, just that it's got a faster mining speed.
#1335 [16:10] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan Im not sure it does o.o
#1336 [16:10] <sugoi> thanks
#1337 [16:10] <Grim_Reaper> But worth a try I guess
#1338 [16:10] <Grim_Reaper> Jhwarby I promise you now
#1339 [16:10] <Morrolan> But, uh, check the wiki before you wastse a diamond, sugoi. ;D
#1340 [16:10] <Grim_Reaper> We don't know the answer
#1341 [16:10] <sugoi> haha
#1342 [16:10] <sugoi> well, yeah
#1343 [16:11] <Jhwarby> I've not made a gold pick in years
#1344 [16:11] <sugoi> it was to enchant, hoping for fortune
#1345 [16:11] <Jhwarby> They're useless
#1346 [16:11] <sugoi> but i'll check
#1347 [16:11] <Grim_Reaper> I use gold picks for mining stone since it's fastest
#1348 [16:11] <sugoi> i know enchanting has changed significantly; doesn't gold still have the best enchantability?
#1349 [16:11] <Morrolan> Oh, enchantments, I wouldn't know anything about those.
#1350 [16:11] <Morrolan> Never got the hang of them.
#1351 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> I've only enchanted once in my life
#1352 [16:12] <sugoi> well also with the news xp rules, i get levels pretty fast
#1353 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> That was still in the snapshot
#1354 [16:12] * sugoi is now 58
#1354 [16:12] <sugoi> so i wanted to use it :)
#1355 [16:12] <Jhwarby> Gold picks run out after you mine to bedrock once.
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#1357 [16:13] <Grim_Reaper> The sad thing about gold picks is they don't last long. But they're awesome for quick stone mining
#1358 [16:13] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan?
#1359 [16:14] <Grim_Reaper> Fix your highlights D:
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#1361 [16:14] <sugoi> gold cannot mine diamond (according to wiki)
#1362 [16:14] <sugoi> 15s, then fail :)
#1363 [16:14] <sugoi> only iron and diamond
#1364 [16:14] <Grim_Reaper> :<
#1365 [16:14] <Grim_Reaper> Thought so
#1366 [16:14] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Yes?
#1367 [16:15] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan are you Walrus?
#1368 [16:15] <Morrolan> No. :<
#1369 [16:15] <Grim_Reaper> :<
#1370 [16:15] <Morrolan> No marrying.
#1371 [16:15] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
#1372 [16:15] <Grim_Reaper> Will you fix your client highlights?
#1373 [16:15] <sugoi> well thanks guys :)
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#1375 [16:15] <Morrolan> Also, wasn't it marry a walrus day recently?
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#1377 [16:16] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Uh, did I miss anything?
#1378 [16:16] <Morrolan> Oh, yes, it didn't highlight me on the "Morrolan?" one.
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#1380 [16:16] <Jhwarby> They should have a random update in minecraft and add walruses and kangaroos.
#1381 [16:16] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan yeah it was. But I was just checking if you had suddenly become a walrus
#1382 [16:16] <Jhwarby> That drop xp balls.
#1383 [16:17] <sugoi> GOT FORTUNE 3! :D
#1384 [16:17] <sugoi> on iron
#1385 [16:17] * sugoi does a little happy dance
#1385 [16:17] <Jhwarby> Do you guys know what HTTP Response: 502 means?
#1386 [16:17] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#1387 [16:17] <Grim_Reaper> It's slipped my mind at the moment
#1388 [16:17] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan http://i.imgur.com/ZyhGQ.png
#1389 [16:18] <Morrolan> Jhwarby - Blame the server. ;)
#1390 [16:19] <Jhwarby> What is it though?
#1391 [16:19] <Morrolan> (5xx are server errors, though the exact kind of error varies a lot.)
#1392 [16:19] <Morrolan> Err, Google? Wiki?
#1393 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1394 [16:19] <Jhwarby> It says it for about 3 plugins and they all have mcstats after them
#1395 [16:19] <Morrolan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes
#1396 [16:19] <Morrolan> Bad Gateway, seems the owner of that stats website has messed something up.
#1397 [16:19] <Hidendra> those errors are fixed now Jhwarby, fu things bailing out
#1398 [16:21] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Aye, I saw that one.
#1399 [16:21] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - His client must be rather odd.
#1400 [16:22] <Jhwarby> Yeah, the error's gone now.
#1401 [16:22] <Jhwarby> :)
#1402 [16:22] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1403 [16:22] <Jhwarby> :O
#1404 [16:22] <Morrolan> https://mcstats.org/ is rather slow anyway, seems it can't really keep up with the demand.
#1405 [16:23] <Morrolan> Personally, I disabled metrics. Wasn't too fond when I found out about it.
#1406 [16:23] <Jhwarby> What is PluginMetrics?
#1407 [16:23] <Jhwarby> Some random folder just appeared in my Plugin folder...
#1408 [16:23] <Morrolan> It's a statistics API, used by some plugins. Provides information about how many people use said plugin.
#1409 [16:23] <Jhwarby> Lemme go try out Sky Block
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#1411 [16:24] <Hidendra> Morrolan- mysql just seems to have started acting up very recently, using way more 10x more cpu than it was earlier..
#1412 [16:24] <Jhwarby> Oh yay it works now.
#1413 [16:24] <Hidendra> s/way more//
#1414 [16:25] <Jhwarby> I must have messed something up.
#1415 [16:25] <Jhwarby> Bye guysss
#1416 [16:25] <Jhwarby> I'LL BE BACK.
#1417 [16:25] <Jhwarby> I'LL BE BACK.
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#1419 [16:25] <Morrolan> Hidendra - Ah, that'd explain the unresponsiveness, and the errors.
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#1424 [16:28] <Hidendra> yeah, seems back to normal now
#1425 [16:28] <Hidendra> yeah, seems back to normal now
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#1427 [16:28] <Hidendra> would hate to have to restart mysql, its been online for 15 days now.. it would take a year to shutdown :/
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#1429 [16:29] <Rip_Rift> anyone here?
#1430 [16:29] <Hidendra> sup
#1431 [16:30] <Rip_Rift> my minecraft login information randomly stopped working yesterday :I
#1432 [16:30] <Hidendra> have you tried resetting your password?
#1433 [16:30] <Rip_Rift> the email that was linked to the acount got shutdown so there was no way to change the password
#1434 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#1435 [16:31] <Rip_Rift> i cant usse that since my login info no longer works
#1436 [16:31] <Rip_Rift> thats the problem
#1437 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> The article tells you that you'll need to contact mojang, including your transaction ID so that they can look up your account for you
#1438 [16:32] <Hidendra> read the second paragraph, it explains how to contact mojang to reset the email
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#1442 [16:35] <Rip_Rift> well then i need to get one of my brothers XD they got minecraft for me as a gift so could join them on a minecraft pvp server
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#1445 [16:42] <HackedAccount> Hi my account is hacked and password has been changed and i cant acsess y old email
#1446 [16:43] <HackedAccount> And since i paid for it with the email i cant acsess i cant get the purchase ID to prove i own it
#1447 [16:43] <HackedAccount> What should i do
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#1449 [16:44] <HackedAccount> Hello?
#1450 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Step 1 would be to acquire said transaction ID. If you don't have access to the email, try your bank or financial institution
#1451 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> They'll more than likely have kept that information for you.
#1452 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> If you went through paypal or moneybookers, they'll have a record of that transaction as well
#1453 [16:45] <HackedAccount> Can you find what date "Canonpg" was purchased
#1454 [16:46] <HackedAccount> and where would the fee have gone mojang or somewhere else
#1455 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> We cannot, as nobody here works for Mojang, and thus, have no access to account information
#1456 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> It would depend on what you used to pay for Minecraft.
#1457 [16:46] <HackedAccount> :o
#1458 [16:46] <HackedAccount> :P
#1459 [16:46] <HackedAccount> Sooo where can i talk to someone from mojang
#1460 [16:47] <HackedAccount> it would be very helpful
#1461 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1462 [16:47] <HackedAccount> THANK SO MUCH
#1463 [16:47] <HackedAccount> :D :D :D
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#1469 [16:56] <Morrolan> Congrats on dual-op, VoxelHead.
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#1471 [17:02] <Jim_> We have purchased Minecraft for a Mac computer however when we try to infall it we get a message saying the file is damaged and we should move it to trash. Please advise what we can do about this
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#1473 [17:03] <Jim_> We cannot play it in the browser either
#1474 [17:06] <Morrolan> ??> Jim_ mac/gatekeeper
#1475 [17:06] <VoxelHead> Jim_: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#1476 [17:06] <Morrolan> Try VoxelHead's instructions.
#1477 [17:06] <Morrolan> If those don't work, there's also the possibility of telling Gatekeeper to allow all non-appstore apps.
#1478 [17:07] <Jim_> Thank you. I will give it a try and let you know how I get on :)
#1479 [17:10] <Jim_> OK. VoxelHead's instruction didn't work. Can you please advise how to get through the gatekeeper?
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#1481 [17:11] <Morrolan> ??> Jim_ mac/gatekeeper/disable
#1482 [17:11] <VoxelHead> Jim_: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#1483 [17:12] <Morrolan> The first paragraph of this support article of Apple contains some basic information about Gatekeeper. Instructions on how to tell it to allow apps from "anywhere" start at the paragraph above the picture
#1484 [17:12] <Morrolan> (Above the system settings picture, not the gatekeeper logo.)
#1485 [17:13] <Morrolan> ??< mac/gatekeeper/documentation
#1486 [17:13] <Jim_> Thank you. I am reading it and will see how this goes :)
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#1488 [17:15] <Morrolan> Sure thing. If something still doesn't work, just say it in here, and someone will try to help you further. (It might take five or ten minutes for someone to respond, since I'll be leaving now. TIme to hug my pillow.)
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#1492 [17:19] <Jim_> The program is downloading now. Thanks so much for your help. You have made my little boy very happy :)
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#1511 [17:58] <gc> recently i downloaded the update for minecraft (after a couple of workarounds to solve a problem where it wouldnt download) and now it blackscreens past the login. it isn't the meta-inf folder, i've tried deleting that, i've tried deleting the bin, deleting minecraft and reinstalling completely, tried reinstalling java. everything and it still blackscreens or gets stuck on done loading. unsure how to fix - i have N
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#1518 [18:05] <dee> My daughter created an account without permission using my e-mail. I would like to delete the account
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#1520 [18:06] <Lutzee> dee that is not possible at this time
#1521 [18:06] <dee> why?
#1522 [18:07] <dee> can I change the username
#1523 [18:07] <Lutzee> Becauser er it well isn't, i can't say more because i do not know, asuming it is a mojang.com account you can change the email address atactched to the account
#1524 [18:07] <dee> and how?
#1525 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> By logging into the mojang account and changing the email address that way
#1526 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> https://account.mojang.com/login
#1527 [18:09] <dee> do i have to migrate my account?
#1528 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> If it's a minecraft.net account, yes.
#1529 [18:10] <dee> okay
#1530 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> If it's already a mojang.com account, no
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#1534 [18:16] <dee> i dont have minecraft premium
#1535 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Then there's nothing to worry about. They can't play minecraft without paying for it
#1536 [18:18] <dee> thats is not what I want, I want it to be under her email
#1537 [18:18] <dee> Or even the username being changed
#1538 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to purchase minecraft before you can change the email address
#1539 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Changing the username is not possible at this time
#1540 [18:19] <Lutzee> oh wait, you can't merge a non premium account.. ahh
#1541 [18:19] <dee> merge?
#1542 [18:20] <Lutzee> migrate*
#1543 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Migrate to a mojang.com account
#1544 [18:20] <dee> oh.. right
#1545 [18:20] <dee> any other ways?
#1546 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Can try filing a support ticket...
#1547 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> https://account.mojang.com/login
#1548 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> whoops, wrong link
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#1550 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1551 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#1553 [18:21] <dee> No, I dont think it should be taken that far
#1554 [18:22] <dee> Thankyou, I will find another way
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#1563 [18:55] <FN2867> Minecraft won't download correctly on my iMac
#1564 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1565 [18:55] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#1566 [18:56] <FN2867> ok, thanks
#1567 [18:57] <FN2867> It says that it is damaged and I have to move it into trash
#1568 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Right, read this, set gatekeeper to "Anywhere"
#1569 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#1570 [18:58] <FN2867> thanks
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#1574 [19:12] <em> trying to run my newly purchased and downladed games minecraft and keep getting the error (while loading) Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#1575 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Give us a dxdiag
#1576 [19:12] <em> what do I do?
#1577 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#1578 [19:12] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1579 [19:12] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1580 [19:14] <em> yeah not computer savy guys doing this for my son. don't know what win/dxdiag means.
#1581 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> win/dxdiag was a command for our bot (Voxelhead) to paste instructions into this channel
#1582 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> I'd start by pressing your windows key (key between the ctrl and alt keys on your keyboard) and the R keys at the same time
#1583 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> This will bring up your Run command
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#1585 [19:18] <em> ok, updated all my drivers and am running windows xp 2007 version. is this a game issue or my computer hardwear issue? ok i did that now what do i put in the box?
#1586 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Please read VoxelHead's instructions
#1587 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#1588 [19:18] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1589 [19:18] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1591 [19:24] <em> what is IRC channel?
#1592 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> You're in one
#1593 [19:25] <em> lol k im going to feel like supper mom if i get through this!! lol http://pastebin.com/YtWW7Lvt
#1594 [19:25] <em> like that?
#1595 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Exactly like that. Thank you, one moment please.
#1596 [19:25] <em> thanks
#1597 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> I see that's a fairly old computer. It may run minecraft, albeit with performance issues. Let me walk you through how to do so.
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#1599 [19:27] <em> ok
#1600 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> Using your browser, please download and save this to your desktop: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1601 [19:28] <em> k its on my desktop
#1602 [19:29] <em> folder says minecraft zip
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#1604 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Right click anywhere on your desktop. Choose New -> new text document.
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#1606 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't matter what name you give it now, you'll change it later.
#1607 [19:29] <em> ok its there
#1608 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Double click to open up the text file.
#1609 [19:30] <em> k
#1610 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Paste this in: java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1611 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Press enter, and in the second line of the file, put in: pause
#1612 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Once you've put that in, tell me.
#1613 [19:31] <em> k done
#1614 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Alright, now. Go up to File -> Save as. Save it with the filename of: "Launch.bat" -- Please include those quotes. Also make sure it's saving it on your desktop as well
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#1616 [19:33] <prototype151> Hello
#1617 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> Hellp
#1618 [19:34] <em> ok did that
#1619 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> em - Now. Close the file, and double click on Launch.bat on your desktop.
#1620 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully minecraft will now launch. Log in.
#1621 [19:34] <prototype151> So I am recently trying to login into my minecraft and I am unable to remember my password. I went to minecraft.net and tried to reset it. It told me my account had been migrated and to try it here. So I went to the link and they told me I had recently tried to reset my password and to check my spambox... It isnt there and I cant reset it
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#1623 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> prototype151 - I'd wait for the link to timeout before trying to reset it again from: https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#1624 [19:36] <em> ok well i did that and I am still getting the same error message
#1625 [19:36] <prototype151> Ok it has timed out though.
#1626 [19:36] <prototype151> I never even got the email.
#1627 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you're checking the right account?
#1628 [19:37] <prototype151> There was no orginal email.
#1629 [19:37] <prototype151> yes
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#1631 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> If you're not getting the email, either your spam filter is catching it, you're checking the wrong account, or it's been changed
#1632 [19:37] <em> well we set up the account so it has and email and pass for the login in. now getting a grey box with a nessage that says bad drivers
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#1634 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> em - Did you use Launch.bat to launch minecraft with?
#1635 [19:40] <prototype151> 7/3/2012 was the last email I got from them.
#1636 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> prototype151 - Then you'll need to contact Mojang support proper to get this straightened out.
#1637 [19:40] <em> yep it didnt do anything said press any key i hit enter and the window just colsed
#1638 [19:41] <prototype151> Ya but the only problem is... They take a billion years to respond
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#1640 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> prototype151 - They're the only ones with access to account information to help you.
#1641 [19:41] <Coty> Hey GreyVulpine
#1642 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> prototype151 - We cannot do anything about it here, other than suggesting these solutions for you
#1643 [19:41] <prototype151> Last time I was here... There was a guy that reset it for me.
#1644 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> em - Hmm. Did the black command prompt say anything?
#1645 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> prototype151 - That may have been Marc, he works for Mojang, and only occasionally drops by here.
#1646 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> prototype151 - I haven't seen him in months.
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#1648 [19:42] <em> yep said error: could not find or load main class net.minecraft.launcherFrame
#1649 [19:42] <Coty> So I did all the step to make a server and set it all up but yet when i got to start up the world it says "failed to connect to server, connetion timed out:connect" any solutions?
#1650 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> em - Did you download minecraft.jar to your desktop using: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1651 [19:43] <Coty> dont think so ill give it a shot
#1652 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> That wasn't meant for you Coty
#1653 [19:43] <Coty> oh sorry
#1654 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Coty - How exactly did you set up your server?
#1655 [19:44] <Coty> there was a machinma video, i download the server thing from the site and added my username and my friends username and put in the ip and added the :25565 and it wouldnet let me connect
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#1657 [19:44] <em> GreyVulpine thank you for using the "em-" so i know your talking to me lol yes it gives me the option to save it or runi t. i saved it to my desktop
#1658 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> em - Is it named minecraft.jar exactly?
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#1660 [19:46] <lildrummerdrew> Alrighty, I'm back with a new old computer o3o
#1661 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Coty - Where did you download the server from? What's the exact URL?
#1662 [19:46] <lildrummerdrew> And again:
#1663 [19:46] <lildrummerdrew> Bad video card drivers!
#1664 [19:46] <lildrummerdrew> :D
#1665 [19:46] <em> it says minecraft.zip
#1666 [19:46] <lildrummerdrew> Alrighty. Just gonna throw out there it's a geforce :D
#1667 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Huh..
#1668 [19:46] <lildrummerdrew> dxdiag comin' right up
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#1670 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> em - Could you rename it to minecraft.jar
#1671 [19:46] <Coty> https://minecraft.net/download
#1672 [19:46] <Lutzee> em, right click the file, rename it minecraft.jar and a window should open, press okay
#1673 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Then try launching Launch.bat again
#1674 [19:46] <Lutzee> GreyVulpine: Internet explorer likes to save .jars as .zips
#1675 [19:47] * GreyVulpine shakes fist
#1675 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> I remember that.
#1676 [19:47] * lildrummerdrew has AuBot get GreyVulpine's attention
#1676 [19:47] <lildrummerdrew> K then
#1677 [19:48] <lildrummerdrew> Grey, you heard right?
#1678 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> heard... what?
#1679 [19:48] <lildrummerdrew> I came back with a new old computer
#1680 [19:48] <lildrummerdrew> Haha
#1681 [19:48] <lildrummerdrew> And: Bad video card drivers! of course.
#1682 [19:48] <em> ok renamed it got a window, click yes?
#1683 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> new.. old computer?
#1684 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> em - Yes
#1685 [19:48] <lildrummerdrew> I'm pulling up the dxdiag right now.
#1686 [19:49] <lildrummerdrew> new old computer. a newer one than the old old one, but still old nonetheless
#1687 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> lildrummerdrew - That's.. good. I suppose?
#1688 [19:49] <em> ok now has a little java cup on it
#1689 [19:49] <lildrummerdrew> XD
#1690 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> em - Now double click on Launch.bat
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#1692 [19:50] <Scott> Hmmr. Wonder how I left :/
#1693 [19:50] <em> :DDDDD we have lauch!
#1694 [19:50] <lildrummerdrew> http://pastie.org/5504448 <-Grey
#1695 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> [05:37.45pm] Scott (~scott@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:f1ba) has parted. (Leaving)
#1696 [19:50] <Scott> I guess I misclicked or something
#1697 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> em - Great. Are you able to log in?
#1698 [19:51] <em> yep i did :)
#1699 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Now, question for the hour, does minecraft run? If it does, I would suggest going into minecraft's options to turn down the detail levels
#1700 [19:51] <em> ok will k
#1701 [19:51] <Coty> grey did u see the url?
#1702 [19:51] <em> will check
#1703 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> lildrummerdrew - Memory: 256MB RAM.. You're joking, right?
#1704 [19:52] <lildrummerdrew> Grey, I'm just updating the video cards.. XD I ordered ram.
#1705 [19:52] <lildrummerdrew> Well not the ram itself.
#1706 [19:52] <lildrummerdrew> Just an adapter.
#1707 [19:52] <lildrummerdrew> XD
#1708 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> You realize this computer's over 10 years old.
#1709 [19:52] <lildrummerdrew> Trust me, I threw in the best I had, I have 2 more 128M's, I have more..
#1710 [19:52] <lildrummerdrew> And yes XD
#1711 [19:53] <lildrummerdrew> It's newer than the older one.
#1712 [19:53] <lildrummerdrew> Better, too.
#1713 [19:53] <Lutzee> P3? the only older thing i have seen is a server with P2s in that i dismanteled..
#1714 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> I remember having a geforce 2 MX, back in late 90s, early 2000s.
#1715 [19:53] <lildrummerdrew> XD Anyways.. Graphics are great compared to the old old one
#1716 [19:53] <Lutzee> geforce 2 series was released in 2000
#1717 [19:53] <lildrummerdrew> Like, seriously
#1718 [19:53] <lildrummerdrew> XD
#1719 [19:53] <Lutzee> you have 32MB of memory on the graphics card
#1720 [19:53] <lildrummerdrew> And yeah, 12 year old. Cute, huh?
#1721 [19:53] <Coty> GreyVulpine??
#1722 [19:53] <lildrummerdrew> Lutzee: seems to be running fine
#1723 [19:53] <lildrummerdrew> :3
#1724 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Coty - Ah, sorry, you got the server from minecraft.net/download?
#1725 [19:54] <lildrummerdrew> I have a bunch open too, nothing's even slow/
#1726 [19:54] <Coty> yes
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#1728 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Coty - Did you launch minecraft.exe directly then?
#1729 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Did you change anything in the server.properties file?
#1730 [19:54] <Coty> is the .exe the game itself?
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#1732 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Er, sorry. Minecraft_server.exe
#1733 [19:54] <lildrummerdrew> mhm
#1734 [19:55] <Coty> yes
#1735 [19:55] <Lutzee> Aparently it was the best graphics card..... for playing quake 3
#1736 [19:55] <em> what do i do once in options beacuse it is glitchy
#1737 [19:55] <lildrummerdrew> XD
#1738 [19:55] <lildrummerdrew> *Runs steam* Lut, working fine darlin'
#1739 [19:55] <lildrummerdrew> haha
#1740 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> em - Change the view distance from far to short. Change the render quality from fancy to fast..
#1741 [19:56] <Lutzee> May i point out that the rasberry pi can run quake 3 at like over 100 FPS :L
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#1743 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> em - I'd also turn smooth lighting to off, and clouds to off.
#1744 [19:57] <lildrummerdrew> May I point out that I have 3 computers, 1 doesn't work with internet but might if I can use this to uinstall the drivers, 2 is this one and is suckish, 3 has horrible video cards, sucks ass, and 2 and 3 share a hard drive to boot? Aka, I flip it back and forth.
#1745 [19:57] <em> ok did that anything else?
#1746 [19:57] <lildrummerdrew> So don't talk to me about the pi's >_>
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#1748 [19:57] <em> ok good did those :)
#1749 [19:58] <Coty> Just lemme know if you ever find a solution will be here
#1750 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> em - Also, particles to low or off. Don't remember what options there are
#1751 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Coty - Where did you save minecraft_server.exe to?
#1752 [19:58] <lildrummerdrew> particles to "decreased" is best..
#1753 [19:58] <em> changed to lowest setting particals to minimal
#1754 [19:58] <Coty> desktop and put it in a minecraft server folder
#1755 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> em - That's about the best we can do right now. Try minecraft. If it's still glitchy, you can always install a mod that increases performance slightly.
#1756 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Coty - In that same folder, did you edit server.properties in any way
#1757 [20:00] <lildrummerdrew> *downloading adobe flash players (both), ie8, mse, xp service pack 3, tf2, etc.. XD*
#1758 [20:00] <Coty> yes i changed max players from 20 to 2 thats it
#1759 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Coty - Alright. When you launched the server, did it say, Launching minecraft server on *:25565 ?
#1760 [20:00] <em> ok we will see how it goes! Thank you GreyVulpine for helping me it is appreciated :)
#1761 [20:00] * GreyVulpine tips hat at em.
#1761 [20:00] <Lutzee> Coty: Did you put an ip in the ip-address option?
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#1763 [20:01] <Coty> what ip option?
#1764 [20:01] <lildrummerdrew> don't<-
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#1766 [20:01] <lildrummerdrew> fyi.
#1767 [20:01] <Andrio> In 6server.properties
#1768 [20:01] <Coty> I cant even launch the server thats the peroblem. i put in the server addres and add the :25565 then it doesnt work
#1769 [20:02] <Andrio> What address are you trying to use?
#1770 [20:02] <Coty> me?
#1771 [20:02] <Andrio> yeah.
#1772 [20:02] <lildrummerdrew> try 127.0.0.1 (or 127.0.0.1:25565)
#1773 [20:02] <Coty> I put in 192.168.1.23 23 is my number in the cmd
#1774 [20:03] <Lutzee> remove the addres
#1775 [20:03] <Lutzee> It is not needed
#1776 [20:03] <Andrio> ?
#1777 [20:03] <Andrio> Yes it is
#1778 [20:03] <Lutzee> Oh wait
#1779 [20:03] <Andrio> It shouldn't be in server.properties
#1780 [20:03] <Coty> but the addres is the only thing you put in into direct connect
#1781 [20:03] <Lutzee> Oh, try localhost or 127.0.0.1
#1782 [20:03] <lildrummerdrew> Direct connect: 127.0.0.1
#1783 [20:03] <lildrummerdrew> That's what I'm sayin'.
#1784 [20:04] <Andrio> You actually don't need the :25565
#1785 [20:04] <Andrio> That's assumed if you don't put any : in.
#1786 [20:04] <lildrummerdrew> ^already said that :p
#1787 [20:04] <Coty> i put in 127.0.0.1 and it worked but is this server my personal server?
#1788 [20:05] <lildrummerdrew> That's yours, but only you can get to it that way..
#1789 [20:05] <lildrummerdrew> It means you need to _port forward_ >_<
#1790 [20:05] <Coty> i did port forward
#1791 [20:05] <lildrummerdrew> _port_ _forwarding_ XD
#1792 [20:05] <lildrummerdrew> So horrible.
#1793 [20:05] <Lutzee> Coty: when running a server and the client on the same PC you need to use 127.0.0.1 to connect
#1794 [20:05] <lildrummerdrew> Well, obviously it's not done fully..
#1795 [20:06] <Coty> so im on it right now but my friend cant access it?
#1796 [20:06] <lildrummerdrew> Lutzee: He can connect through the 127 but not through the correct ip, so, yeah, one end just isn't connecting to the network.. yup
#1797 [20:06] <lildrummerdrew> you can't until it's "out there"
#1798 [20:06] <Coty> how do i do that?
#1799 [20:06] <Lutzee> You can't always do loopback
#1800 [20:06] <Lutzee> Some routers and ISPs block it
#1801 [20:06] <lildrummerdrew> ^true
#1802 [20:07] <lildrummerdrew> Well coty, are you on a home router?
#1803 [20:07] <Coty> yes
#1804 [20:07] <lildrummerdrew> connected or wireless?
#1805 [20:07] <Coty> wireless
#1806 [20:07] <lildrummerdrew> Do you have a firewall on your computer, AND one on your router?
#1807 [20:07] <lildrummerdrew> That's the way mine's setup, took me ages to figure that out XD
#1808 [20:07] <Coty> not sure
#1809 [20:08] <lildrummerdrew> How did you "port forward" exactly.
#1810 [20:08] <Coty> went to the netgear went to portforwarding and made the port with 25565, did all this through a video
#1811 [20:08] <lildrummerdrew> oh gosh.
#1812 [20:09] <lildrummerdrew> I don't see how that could possibly work, yeah I tried a website too.
#1813 [20:09] <lildrummerdrew> Didn't understand why it didn't work.
#1814 [20:09] <lildrummerdrew> >_<
#1815 [20:09] <lildrummerdrew> Uhh
#1816 [20:09] * lildrummerdrew hides *
#1816 [20:09] <Coty> I just want to be able to set up a server me and my friend can use : /
#1817 [20:10] <lildrummerdrew> (ForgotHowToPortForward)
#1818 [20:10] <lildrummerdrew> ./afk
#1819 [20:10] <Andrio> lildrummerdrew, /away
#1820 [20:10] <Coty> Can anyone help me....
#1821 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> You've got two choices at this point, one, teamviewer will let one of us remote to your computer to take control of it. We can then set up port forwarding that way.
#1822 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Two, you can take screenshots of your cmd/router port forwarding page, and we can try to guide you through that way
#1823 [20:11] <Coty> I trust you to do it greyvulpine
#1824 [20:12] <Coty> Just tell me how
#1825 [20:12] <lildrummerdrew> teamviewer.com
#1826 [20:12] <lildrummerdrew> :D
#1827 [20:12] <lildrummerdrew> ./afkagain
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#1829 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> ?? teamviewer
#1830 [20:12] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1831 [20:12] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1832 [20:13] <lildrummerdrew> ??< index
#1833 [20:13] <Coty> so i need to download it?
#1834 [20:13] <lildrummerdrew> mhm
#1835 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1836 [20:13] <Coty> do i run it now or install it first?
#1837 [20:14] <Coty> ?
#1838 [20:14] <Colage> I'm getting an error consistently after 1-5 minutes "Display Driver has stopped responding and has recovered" - I've un- and re-installed my graphics drier, java, minecraft, edited the registry to add a delay, bumped the settings all down to minimum, allocated more memory to Java, and nothing changes. I tested out Runescape to make sure it wasn't just Java and it works fine. Any ideas? (Win 7 64-bit, AMD 6630M, Intel Sandy Bridge i7)
#1839 [20:15] <lildrummerdrew> Coty: run works.
#1840 [20:15] <Coty> ty
#1841 [20:15] <Coty> alright grey im ready when you are
#1842 [20:16] <lildrummerdrew> Colage: might be running out of ram..
#1843 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Alright then.
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#1845 [20:16] <Colage> lildrummerdrew: I have 8GB and I get the same problems when I run MC directly after boot
#1846 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> When you have teamviewer up, you'll see a nine digit ID and a password. Please /msg that information to me
#1847 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> /msg GreyVulpine ID and password
#1848 [20:17] <lildrummerdrew> Colage: doesn't mean you're not running out XD you could have some pretty intense processes for all I know..
#1849 [20:17] <Coty> get my message?
#1850 [20:18] * tyteen4a03 pops
#1850 [20:18] <tyteen4a03> long time no see lildrummerdrew
#1851 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Colage - I'd completely nuke and reinstall your video drivers
#1852 [20:18] <Colage> I already did that
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#1854 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Colage - There's really no other explaination for your error
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#1856 [20:19] <Colage> Ok. Thanks.
#1857 [20:19] <Snuffaluffigas> Nether Help : I am in the nether around a blaze spawner. Actually building walls around it to I dont have to worry about hitting them over the fence, anyways, it keeps fatally crashing right when I try and enter my world. Any help please?
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#1859 [20:20] <Snuffaluffigas> I open my world and it only stays connected for maybe 1-2 seconds, then minecraft fatally crashes.
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#1861 [20:23] <lildrummerdrew> lol
#1862 [20:23] <lildrummerdrew> the old breakroom.
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#1864 [20:23] <tyteen4a03> Snuffaluffigas, (note: there are people here, I just happen to not know how to solve your problem, sorry)
#1865 [20:23] <lildrummerdrew> XD
#1866 [20:23] <tyteen4a03> lildrummerdrew, eeyup
#1867 [20:23] <Snuffaluffigas> Its okay, Im not sure either....
#1868 [20:24] <Snuffaluffigas> I have tried force updating, taking my bin out and letting the game create a new one when it opens (same thing) and it still doesn't work! 1.4.5 Is very buggy to me
#1869 [20:25] <tyteen4a03> Snuffaluffigas, if that particular world crashes i don't think force updating would work
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#1871 [20:25] <Snuffaluffigas> Well thats the only think I could think of doing lol! What could you possibly recommend?
#1872 [20:26] <tyteen4a03> Snuffaluffigas, tools like MCEdit may fix whatever's happened in there
#1873 [20:26] <tyteen4a03> Snuffaluffigas, you mentioned spawners, so I guess there could be too many entities for minecraft to hold, thus crashing itself
#1874 [20:26] <Snuffaluffigas> Can't use MCEdit.
#1875 [20:26] <Snuffaluffigas> And hmmmm, only one or two were spawned at the time...
#1876 [20:27] <tyteen4a03> Snuffaluffigas, that would be my guess
#1877 [20:27] <Snuffaluffigas> The Nether usually crashes for me but I am always able to return back to the game. This time its just being shitty
#1878 [20:27] <tyteen4a03> Snuffaluffigas, just wondering, how much RAM do you have?
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#1880 [20:28] <Snuffaluffigas> 4GB
#1881 [20:28] <tyteen4a03> Snuffaluffigas, 64bit I assume?
#1882 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> !check coty
#1883 [20:29] <Snuffaluffigas> On a Mac here!
#1884 [20:29] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, wat
#1885 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> !check 68.58.32.179
#1886 [20:29] <tyteen4a03> Snuffaluffigas, I see
#1887 [20:29] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#1888 [20:29] <tyteen4a03> just trying to guess stuff
#1889 [20:29] <Snuffaluffigas> ??<index ? whats that?
#1890 [20:30] <tyteen4a03> Snuffaluffigas, it's a factoid system we have to hold FAQs so we don't have to type
#1891 [20:30] <tyteen4a03> for example, ?? mac/10.8/dualscreen leads to
#1892 [20:30] <tyteen4a03> ?? mac/10.8/dualscreen
#1893 [20:30] <VoxelHead> mac/10.8/dualscreen: There are reports that Minecraft will not work on OS 10.8 (Mountain Lion) with a multiple-screen configuration. This may be related to LWJGL.
#1894 [20:30] <Snuffaluffigas> Oooooh
#1895 [20:30] <Snuffaluffigas> Okay
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#1901 [20:36] <linkkid1> hi there, here is my question: when i open minecraft, it acts normally and can play it, but it lags, after about 5 minutes, the lag gradually get worse and worse, until finally, it freezes and shuts down, then a message pops up and says my video card's openGL has reached window's time out limit, Help!
#1902 [20:38] <tyteen4a03> ??> linkkid1 win/dxdiag/bat
#1903 [20:38] <VoxelHead> linkkid1: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1904 [20:38] <VoxelHead> linkkid1: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
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#1906 [20:38] <cdog> my minecraft keeps crashing
#1907 [20:38] <tyteen4a03> cdog, does it give an error message?
#1908 [20:38] <cdog> yeah
#1909 [20:38] <cdog> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x506fd9c0, pid=2972, tid=4548 # # JRE version: 7.0_09-b05 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (23.5-b02 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C 0x506fd9c0 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows # # If you would like to submit a bug report,
#1910 [20:39] <tyteen4a03> cdog, can you paste this on pastebin.com?
#1911 [20:39] <cdog> sure
#1912 [20:39] <tyteen4a03> cdog, then give us the link to it
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#1914 [20:39] <linkkid1> what does the file do?
#1915 [20:40] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, it gives you your system configuration so we can find out what's going on
#1916 [20:40] <linkkid1> ummm, idk if i should do that
#1917 [20:41] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, it will not harm your computer, it just gives you your hardware and software config
#1918 [20:41] <cdog> http://pastebin.com/8ghhKNtf
#1919 [20:41] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, and before you submit it to pastebin.com we can't reach it
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#1922 [20:41] <tyteen4a03> ??> cdog win/dxdiag/bat
#1923 [20:42] <VoxelHead> cdog: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1924 [20:42] <VoxelHead> cdog: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1925 [20:42] <linkkid1> well, if this was on the minecraft wiki, ok
#1926 [20:42] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, we are also recommended by Mojang
#1927 [20:43] <linkkid1> ok
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#1929 [20:43] <Coty> hey grey
#1930 [20:43] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, Coty
#1931 [20:44] <Coty> huh?
#1932 [20:44] <tyteen4a03> Coty, that notifies GreyVulpine so he knows you're back
#1933 [20:44] <Coty> GreyVulpine
#1934 [20:44] <tyteen4a03> also known as a ping in IRC talk
#1935 [20:44] <Coty> gotcha
#1936 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1937 [20:45] <Coty> So how do i make a world using my friends seed but stilll have it be the multiplayer one?
#1938 [20:45] <cdog> http://pastebin.com/0kswSLXL here
#1939 [20:45] <linkkid1> here http://pastebin.com/SGypa9TQ
#1940 [20:45] <tyteen4a03> cdog, linkkid1 hang on
#1941 [20:45] <linkkid1> ok
#1942 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Go into your minecraft server folder. Delete the world folder there. Then go into the server.properties file and change the seed there
#1943 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Next time you launch the server, it'll generate your friend's world's seed.
#1944 [20:46] <Coty> thanks yet again :D
#1945 [20:46] <tyteen4a03> cdog, has Minecraft ever worked on your laptop before?
#1946 [20:47] <cdog> yes it worked for like 5 months
#1947 [20:47] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, just wondering, how did you get this computer?
#1948 [20:47] <cdog> then stopped working and i ignored it
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#1950 [20:47] <linkkid1> i built it
#1951 [20:47] <tyteen4a03> ??> cdog gpu/amd
#1952 [20:47] <VoxelHead> cdog: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#1953 [20:47] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, ah, explains the 12GB RAM
#1954 [20:48] <tyteen4a03> cdog, try updating your graphics driver first
#1955 [20:48] <linkkid1> yep
#1956 [20:48] <cdog> ok
#1957 [20:49] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, because from what I read it is targeted at CADs and work-related stuff, it's not optimized for gaming
#1958 [20:50] <tyteen4a03> ??> linkkid1 gpu/nvidia
#1959 [20:50] <VoxelHead> linkkid1: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#1960 [20:50] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, but do try updating the graphics driver first
#1961 [20:50] <linkkid1> ok
#1962 [20:51] <linkkid1> ya, my uncle gave me all the parts from his work, so it would explain alot
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#1964 [20:51] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, just wondering, does your uncle work in architecture or medical fields?
#1965 [20:51] <linkkid1> but minecraft on ubuntu works REALLY well on my computer
#1966 [20:51] <Lutzee> supermicro? wait isn't that a compact server?
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#1968 [20:51] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, well we all know windows suck
#1969 [20:51] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, I think so
#1970 [20:52] <linkkid1> ya
#1971 [20:52] <cdog> yep windows sucks
#1972 [20:52] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, not sure why his uncle gave him server-quality materials
#1973 [20:52] <linkkid1> he does not work in architecture or medical fields
#1974 [20:53] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, then my only guess would be that he is a system admin
#1975 [20:53] <tyteen4a03> these equipments are server-quality and thus pretty expensive
#1976 [20:53] <linkkid1> he's a hard ware enginere
#1977 [20:53] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, that explains everything
#1978 [20:54] <linkkid1> ya
#1979 [20:54] <Lutzee> Your graphics card is a workstation graphics card designed for live rendering not gaming btw
#1980 [20:54] <linkkid1> ok
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#1982 [20:55] <tyteen4a03> speaking of which, I want a workstation that is capable of editing audio/videos efficiently :(
#1983 [20:55] <linkkid1> well, for a $300 spent computer thats worth around $5000, its pretty good
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#1985 [20:56] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, these are probably worn-out hardware but I don't know
#1986 [20:56] <linkkid1> ok
#1987 [20:56] <linkkid1> so i can only play minecraft on ubuntu?
#1988 [20:56] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, but do expect ubuntu to work better on the computer better than windows
#1989 [20:56] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, you can
#1990 [20:56] <Lutzee> Q2000s are pretty recent
#1991 [20:57] <linkkid1> ok
#1992 [20:57] <tyteen4a03> linkkid1, try upgrading the graphic driver as I mentioned earlier first
#1993 [20:57] <linkkid1> ok
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#1995 [20:57] <Lutzee> Its a 1st Quarter 2010 server
#1996 [20:58] <tyteen4a03> 2 years old... not bad
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#2046 [22:18] <coolfe> i tried to download the minecraft game in my pc (xp) but nothing is happening. how do I run the game?
#2047 [22:20] <tyteen4a03> coolfe, did you download the game via minecraft.net/download?
#2048 [22:20] <coolfe> yes
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#2053 [22:23] <tyteen4a03> coolfe, which browser did you use to download Minecraft?
#2054 [22:23] <coolfe> on Google Chorme
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#2056 [22:27] <tyteen4a03> coolfe, go to C:/Documents And Settings/yourusername/My Documents/Download and find Minecraft.exe
#2057 [22:27] <coolfe> tyteen, i used Google Chorme
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#2061 [22:29] <coolfe> tyteen, it says webpage not found
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#2063 [22:34] <coolfe> i found the application one
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#2065 [22:36] <lildrummerdrew> Decent graphics card?: http://shop.amd.com/US/All/Detail/GraphicCard/H3823
#2066 [22:36] <lildrummerdrew> =P
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#2068 [22:36] <coolfe> i have run the application and sent it to the minecraft launcher
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#2070 [22:38] <lildrummerdrew> Cuz I was thinking of buying this: http://www.microcenter.com/product/400365/DC5750_Desktop_Computer_Off_Lease_Refurbished
#2071 [22:38] <lildrummerdrew> Right, gotta go.. Any tips before I go?
#2072 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> GPU Type AMD Radeon X300
#2073 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> No.
#2074 [22:38] <lildrummerdrew> XD Not good?
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#2076 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> It's crap.
#2077 [22:39] <lildrummerdrew> ATI radeons not good in your dictionary?
#2078 [22:39] <lildrummerdrew> Kjustchecking
#2079 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> The x300 is just a very old, very low end integrated video card
#2080 [22:41] <lildrummerdrew> FYI I have a budget of 130$ so everything I look at will be shitty :P
#2081 [22:41] <lildrummerdrew> But point being, I'm not buying a graphics card, I'm buying a new desktop, which has to have a decent graphics card.
#2082 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Yeah... you're not going to be getting any computer that's decent.
#2083 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Is not going to happen on 130 bucks.
#2084 [22:42] <lildrummerdrew> Really sucks.
#2085 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Double that, and we might be able to talk.
#2086 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Triple that, for something from this decade.
#2087 [22:42] <lildrummerdrew> I mean, sure, I could buy RAM, buy a video card, buy buy buy, but everything would total up to a lot more probably :P
#2088 [22:44] <lildrummerdrew> Sad thing is if I had a halfway decent budget I'd have probably already spent it on some piece of shit >_<
#2089 [22:45] <lildrummerdrew> k, so I need more money, or... Could I actually buy more ram and a good video card with this much?... Or even just one or the other?
#2090 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#2091 [22:46] <lildrummerdrew> not even ram? >_> ..
#2092 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Even if you could, you would need a computer from the past couple years that will actually take new RAM
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#2094 [22:46] <lildrummerdrew> It takes ram..
#2095 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> And good luck getting a decent video card that isn't on PCI-e right now
#2096 [22:47] <lildrummerdrew> It might need an older model card (2 cards actually) but it still has the slots >_<
#2097 [22:47] <Dan> what is the light level to stop enderman from spawning in an area
#2098 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> There isn't just one RAM standard.
#2099 [22:47] <lildrummerdrew> And PCI-e?
#2100 [22:47] <lildrummerdrew> Grey, ik.
#2101 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Then you would also know that you can't just buy any ol' memory module out there.
#2102 [22:48] <lildrummerdrew> Ya. Ik. But I found another computer with the exact same ram card type in my "stock" (lol) and got inspired. I'll do more research eventually. Thanks anyways.
#2103 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> There's a point of diminishing returns on upgrading old computers.. and if you already aren't running a pretty recent computer with DDR3, it's not worth it
#2104 [22:49] <lildrummerdrew> (Btw, I know of some great computer stores, geek stores. don't doubt me ;) lol)
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#2107 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Also, that computer running a Geforce 2 MX, has an AGP card. You'll be hard pressed to find an AGP card nowadays... and those are quite old.
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#2109 [22:49] <lildrummerdrew> DDR3 is the ram type, I know that, I can check for it right now.. hm.
#2110 [22:49] <Lace_up420> I just bought the game how do i get my redeem code ?
#2111 [22:50] <lildrummerdrew> oh god, so many numbers.
#2112 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Lace_up420 - Redeem code?
#2113 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Lace_up420 - Redeem code?
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#2115 [22:50] <lildrummerdrew> Never mind.
#2116 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Lace_up420 - If you bought the account for yourself, you should already be able to play. There's no redeem code
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#2118 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Lace_up420 - If you got the game from somebody else, they would've given you a gift code to redeem
#2119 [22:51] <Lace_up420> Ok well when i was creating my nickname it asked me for a redeem code after that
#2120 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> That would've been the verification email for your account setup
#2121 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Check your email
#2122 [22:52] <Lace_up420> Ok i got it working thanks
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#2127 [22:58] <TheNoodle> anyone with access to vox's ban list around?
#2128 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#2129 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> Want to add someone?
#2130 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Shoot
#2131 [22:59] <TheNoodle> nah, want to see if kiugetski is still on it
#2132 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Should be
#2133 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> ! [ 53] $a:kiugetski!*@* (perm)
#2134 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> GV: Ban Evasion. Poor attitude.
#2135 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Created 14 days ago
#2136 [23:00] <TheNoodle> In that case might want to remove roflzor
#2137 [23:01] <TheNoodle> <3
#2138 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> !kb roflzor
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#2142 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Done.
#2143 [23:03] <TheNoodle> ^_^
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#2146 [23:10] <Lace_up420> When I am flying how do I drop myself out of the air ?
#2147 [23:10] <Andrio> Double tap the jump button.
#2148 [23:11] <DiskDaemon> Do you want to fall out of the air, or jus lower your height by a bit?
#2149 [23:11] <Lace_up420> tried it but i just keep going up higher
#2150 [23:11] <Lace_up420> I want to lower myself
#2151 [23:11] <DiskDaemon> ctrl
#2152 [23:11] <Lace_up420> thanks
#2153 [23:11] <DiskDaemon> It's the crouch key to lower yourself
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#2159 [23:43] <Guest___> Hello, can anyone help me setup my minecraft server
#2160 [23:43] <Guest___> Hello, can anyone help me setup my minecraft server
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#2164 [23:44] <Kifong> Anyone here?
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