#1 [00:00] <CosmicVoyager> i tweeted mollstam that it is email logins
#2 [00:00] <CosmicVoyager> i have learned not to assume anyone else has figured it out
#3 [00:00] <CosmicVoyager> being that i am a hyperintelligent pan dimensional being
#4 [00:02] <Wheelman2008> can't we just un-migrate my account?
#5 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> That is not possible
#6 [00:06] <pyromaniac3814> is it ok ask if someone can help me find a minecraft animation ?
#7 [00:08] <pyromaniac3814> i cant seem to find a video i saw a while back i found one in spanish but i cant find the other one
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#9 [00:08] <pyromaniac3814> there is 3 total each about 1:30 long
#10 [00:08] <Rikairchy> whats the bot command to check the status of minecraft auth servers?
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#12 [00:10] <Rikairchy> !auth
#13 [00:10] <Rikairchy> D: fu
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#16 [00:10] <pyromaniac3814> i would wate i minute
#17 [00:10] <pyromaniac3814> i would wate i minute
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#19 [00:11] <pyromaniac3814> im still waiting to see if i can even ask my question here
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#21 [00:12] <pyromaniac3814> lol i need a youtube?minecraft nerd like myself
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#26 [00:16] <Rikairchy> pyromaniac3814:
#27 [00:16] <Rikairchy> what are you trying to do?
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#29 [00:16] <pyromaniac3814> find a minecraft anamation a saw a while back
#30 [00:17] <pyromaniac3814> all i can find is the spanish one
#31 [00:17] <Rikairchy> you realize this is for game support...right?
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#32 [00:17] <pyromaniac3814> ya i need help moving to a good room
#33 [00:17] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy, wat
#34 [00:18] <pyromaniac3814> or if one of you guys would be up for the task ?
#35 [00:18] <Rikairchy> hi
#36 [00:18] <Rikairchy> pyromaniac3814: try #lobby
#37 [00:18] <pyromaniac3814> thanks
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#60 [00:36] <hydrazombie> after your servers came back up my minecraft will not let me log in the log in button is still blackend out
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#64 [00:38] <hydrazombie> hello
#65 [00:38] <pyromaniac3814> hi
#66 [00:38] <pyromaniac3814> how are you ?
#67 [00:39] <hydrazombie> can you read my earlier post
#68 [00:39] <pyromaniac3814> yes
#69 [00:39] <pyromaniac3814> but i cant answer it
#70 [00:39] <pyromaniac3814> so im stalling untill it can be answered by someone
#71 [00:39] <hydrazombie> then why are you helping
#72 [00:39] <pyromaniac3814> ^
#73 [00:40] <pyromaniac3814> i dont wish you to be lonely
#74 [00:40] <pyromaniac3814> :)
#75 [00:40] <pyromaniac3814> :)
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#77 [00:41] <hydrazombie> the technic works just minecraft doesnt
#78 [00:41] <pyromaniac3814> sound very odd
#79 [00:42] <pyromaniac3814> do you get any error codes ?
#80 [00:42] <hydrazombie> i think my account might have been hacked
#81 [00:43] <pyromaniac3814> idk is there any other things odd ?
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#83 [00:44] <pyromaniac3814> like flashing screens or glitching ?
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#85 [00:44] <hydrazombie> just the launcher options comes up with force update and it doesnt work either
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#87 [00:45] <pyromaniac3814> u try reinstall ?
#88 [00:45] <hydrazombie> constant crashing and freezing up
#89 [00:46] <NJE> What is the difference to download windows minecraft of the multplayer minecraft
#90 [00:46] <hydrazombie> i reinstalled it 3 times and no joy
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#92 [00:46] <pyromaniac3814> just because i dont know does the mod intergrate with minecraft ?
#93 [00:47] * Iaccidentally facepalms
#93 [00:47] <pyromaniac3814> could it be the mod causing it to glitch ?
#94 [00:47] <Iaccidentally> redownload the launcher, with no mods
#95 [00:47] <Iaccidentally> does it work?
#96 [00:47] <pyromaniac3814> yea
#97 [00:47] <pyromaniac3814> lol
#98 [00:47] <Iaccidentally> if yes, then it was the mods
#99 [00:48] <Iaccidentally> if no, then its something else.
#100 [00:48] <pyromaniac3814> thanks ^
#101 [00:48] <pyromaniac3814> i suck at helping
#102 [00:48] <pyromaniac3814> im good at stalling tho
#103 [00:50] <hydrazombie> i have tried the minecraft exe on 4 diffrent computers and its the same thing
#104 [00:50] <Frostic> hydrazombie mind giving a screenshot?
#105 [00:50] <NJE> can anyone answer which I should download for my son the multi player vs regular windows version. can it be changed later?
#106 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> The two are one and the same
#107 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> The launcher has both single, and multiplayer capability
#108 [00:51] <hydrazombie> hhow do i send it
#109 [00:51] <pyromaniac3814> you made that sound epic
#110 [00:51] <Frostic> use imgur.com to host it
#111 [00:51] <NJE> It gave two options with different KB
#112 [00:51] <Iaccidentally> NJE: minecraft.net?
#113 [00:51] <Frostic> then post a link to it in here
#114 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> It shouldn't. There's only one minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download
#115 [00:51] <Iaccidentally> pick the first one, you dont want the server.
#116 [00:52] <hydrazombie> dont know how to gost a screen shot
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#118 [00:52] <NJE> Thanks, that is what I did not understand. what is the server for?
#119 [00:53] <Frostic> hydrazombie hold ctrl then hit print screen(sysrq)
#120 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> To host your own minecraft server
#121 [00:53] <NJE> what soes that mean?
#122 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> It's an application to run a multiplayer world, so that others may connect.
#123 [00:53] <Frostic> then make a bitmap on desktop and edit it then paste in it then save it and upload it
#124 [00:54] <NJE> will he still be able to play with others?
#125 [00:54] <Iaccidentally> http://puush.me/
#126 [00:54] <Frostic> nje you mind trying something for me?
#127 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> NJE - If you download minecraft_server.exe, no. If you download minecraft.exe, yes
#128 [00:54] <hydrazombie> i have a apple keyboard and cant find the print button
#129 [00:54] <Frostic> NJE please try this http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#130 [00:55] <Frostic> this will launch minecraft a different way and give us a crashreport
#131 [00:56] <pyromaniac3814> interesting
#132 [00:56] <Frostic> hydrazombie wait have you ever played minecraft on this mac?
#133 [00:56] <NJE> Thank you
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#135 [00:57] <Frostic> ??> hydrazombie mac/gatekeeper
#136 [00:57] <VoxelHead> hydrazombie: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#137 [00:58] <Frostic> if this dont work then tyr disabling gatekeeper totally
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#139 [00:59] <hydrazombie> my keyboard is the only apple thing i have
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#141 [01:00] <Frostic> ok try what i told nje to do
#142 [01:00] <hydrazombie> my computer is ad windows 7 professional
#143 [01:00] <Frostic> try this please try this http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
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#145 [01:07] <Smanly> Why... Who is the mojangsta that deal with login/session stuff? My Mojang account get a bad login.
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#147 [01:08] <Bummer> Bummer. I bought a Minecraft account and signed it up on Mojang but it wont let me mirgrate it to Minecraft.Net. Any Ideas?
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#149 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Goes the other way around.
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#151 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> If you have a minecraft.net account, you can migrate to mojang.com
#152 [01:09] <Bummer> Is it not vise versa?
#153 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#154 [01:09] <Bummer> Well then... LOL
#155 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/775905-migrating-from-minecraft-to-a-mojang-account
#156 [01:11] <hydrazombie> i double click the .bat file i made and it does nothing
#157 [01:11] <Bummer> So would the only resort, to be to buy it again but on minecraft.net?
#158 [01:11] <Smanly> Add a "pause" on the next line, hydrazombie
#159 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't do any good. All new accounts are now mojang.com accounts
#160 [01:12] <Bummer> Ah, I wanted to play Tekkit with my group of friends but it states that I have a "Bad Login"
#161 [01:12] <Smanly> Bummer: Why would you want to transfer?
#162 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> You'd only have an old minecraft.net account if you bought minecraft a year ago or earlier.
#163 [01:12] <Smanly> Ah, yeah, same.
#164 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Smanly - login server error with new mojang accounts
#165 [01:12] <Smanly> I know, But I dont think mojang does.
#166 [01:13] <Bummer> Is there anything I could do to log into my friends Tekkit server? Considering it says "Bad login"
#167 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> Bummer - Nope
#168 [01:13] <Bummer> That seems a bit ballsy.
#169 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Happens quite frequently. We just wait for Mojang to get it straightened out
#170 [01:14] <Bummer> I'd hope it's soon. I bought the account hoping to play with them because I tried it with them and it was quite a lot of fun. I feel like that was a slap in the face.
#171 [01:15] <mau5ie> Guess you could say that's a bit of a...Bummer! AWWW YEAAH.
#172 [01:15] <mau5ie> Sorry, carry on.
#173 [01:15] <hydrazombie> 10. are these the 2 lines that are to be coppied
#174 [01:16] <Smanly> huh?
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#179 [01:23] <hydrazombie> i ran the .bat file i made with the pause at the end and opend task manager and it shows it is running then aborts 2 seconds later
#180 [01:23] <Smanly> What did it say?
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#182 [01:27] <hydrazombie> the minecraft exe worked untill the server went down then it quit working when the server started up again, i can plog in technic single player with no problems
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#187 [01:35] <Frostic> well you need to contact the maker of technic
#188 [01:36] <Frostic> ?? mods
#189 [01:36] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#190 [01:36] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#191 [01:36] <hydrazombie> im gping to try and run the linux minecraft exe
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#193 [01:37] <Frostic> ...
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#201 [01:55] <tomli1> problem with multiplayer HAVE BOUGHT MINECRAFT but always bad login???
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#205 [02:00] <hydrazombie> the minecraft worked on the linux
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#207 [02:04] <hydrazombie> and sence the buttons where blackend out i had a 50/ 50 shot of chosing the right button, and sence technic log in is the top button that is the one i chose for ninecraft and i was wrong its the second button and it works know LOL
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#219 [02:24] <timcosgrove> hello. is this an appropriate place to ask a question about logging into servers?
#220 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Yes. It's the fault of a Mojang authentication server that's down. There's no ETA on when it'll be fixed
#221 [02:25] <timcosgrove> awesome. even though help.mojang.com reports the auth server is healthy?
#222 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Right. It lies.
#223 [02:25] <timcosgrove> awesome :) much appreciated!
#224 [02:25] * GreyVulpine nods
#224 [02:25] <timcosgrove> my friend who plays with me (server in my living room) who has not migrated is fine.
#225 [02:25] <timcosgrove> wish i had not migrated. oh wells.
#226 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's only affecting migrated/mojang accounts
#227 [02:25] <timcosgrove> much obliged for the info.
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#247 [03:00] <m1ndcat> help
#248 [03:00] <m1ndcat> i was speak wrong
#249 [03:00] <m1ndcat> i mean
#250 [03:00] <m1ndcat> ....
#251 [03:01] <m1ndcat> well, i can't join a server
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#253 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Authentication server's down
#254 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> You're not the only person.
#255 [03:01] <m1ndcat> ok...
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#258 [03:03] <mindcat> i just forgot i already opened same program...
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#280 [03:24] <jan73> goodmorning. I have an issue when i try to login to my own server. I keep getting Bad Login. Allready changed password but still i cant login. When i set the online mode to false in server props i can login. What am i doing wrong?
#281 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Authentication server's down. You're not the only one
#282 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> Seems to be only affecting people with migrated/mojang accounts right now
#283 [03:25] <jan73> ok i do have a mojang account
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#285 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> We don't have an ETA on when it'll be fixed, but all you can do is wait for Mojang to fix it
#286 [03:26] <cill> why can i join my moms game in the pocket edition but she cant join my game?
#287 [03:26] <jan73> seems to be the only thing indeed. well i play in ofline mode for a bit. i asume that changes will be saved since server is on my pc?
#288 [03:26] <Necrodoom> im so glad i never migrated
#289 [03:27] <Necrodoom> jan73: yes
#290 [03:27] <jan73> cool, thnx. laters all and have a great day
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#299 [03:36] <DJ_yoeri> if i want to join a server it says bad login
#300 [03:37] <Necrodoom> DJ_yoeri: auth servers are overloaded, please wait
#301 [03:37] <mindcat> yes, i am migrated mojang accounts
#302 [03:37] <DJ_yoeri> ok i wait
#303 [03:37] <mindcat> <@GreyVulpine> Authentication server's down. You're not the only one
#304 [03:38] <Necrodoom> DJ_yoeri: will take a few hours at best
#305 [03:38] <mindcat> <@GreyVulpine> Seems to be only affecting people with migrated/mojang accounts right now
#306 [03:38] <DJ_yoeri> but it dont say it on minecraft.net at the help page everything is green
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#309 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> DJ_yoeri - You can either believe Mojang's help page, or us, whom have manned this chat for hours now, and gotten the same reports over and over again
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#321 [04:44] <SonOfWolf> Hello, I am trying to log into my server but it keeps saying "Bad Login" I have tried to change my password etc but it still is happening and I can't get onto my server :(
#322 [04:46] <GreyVulpine> Authentication server's down. You're not the only one..Seems to be only affecting people with migrated/mojang accounts right now
#323 [04:47] <SonOfWolf> Oh good , I thought it was my computer. The support center said everything was okay though... Thanks!
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#328 [04:57] <Jarody1234> Hey, any reason why when I go into mc everything is fine, but when I join a server I get an error?
#329 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Authentication server's down. You're not the only one..Seems to be only affecting people with migrated/mojang accounts right now
#330 [04:58] <Jarody1234> Ahh, strange
#331 [04:58] <Jarody1234> The login servers were down for so long yesterday, I was hoping they fixed everything
#332 [04:59] <Jarody1234> Any idea when the problem started?
#333 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> No idea, been a few hours now
#334 [04:59] <Jarody1234> Hmm, well I was just able to get in to a server, gonna test a couple more times
#335 [05:01] <Jarody1234> Seems like authentication servers might be back up
#336 [05:02] <Jarody1234> I was able to go into 4 servers without having the issue
#337 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Huh, wonder if it was just recently fixed then
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#360 [06:05] <MSglol> Hi there. Uhm, anyone got any suggestions as to why I get a "Failed to login: Bad login" everytime I try to log on to a server on my mac? I've tried my windows installation on the very same mac and then everything works fine. Any suggestions?
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#363 [06:09] <MSglol> I've tried to reinstall Minecraft, rebooting and everything else.
#364 [06:10] <MSglol> It even works on the windows installation through vmware from my bootcamp installation in OSX.
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#369 [06:20] <MSglol> No one?
#370 [06:22] <DiskDaemon> I have to sleep, but what error report do you get from when that problem occurs?
#371 [06:22] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Mac_OSX
#372 [06:23] <MSglol> It says: Connection refused. Failed to login: bad login.
#373 [06:23] <CrusSchool> MSglol: I cannot seem to connect to ANY servers either.
#374 [06:23] <CrusSchool> !login 24.152.224.189
#375 [06:23] <MSglol> Yeah.
#376 [06:23] <CrusSchool> Derp.
#377 [06:23] <MSglol> I can log in to minecraft.
#378 [06:23] <MSglol> But not any servers.
#379 [06:23] <MSglol> But on my windows bootcamp everything works fine.
#380 [06:24] <CrusSchool> That was my server's ip. XP I tried to see if my server was working
#381 [06:24] <CrusSchool> MSglol: I'm on a Wndows 7 Installation.
#382 [06:25] <CrusSchool> Unfortunately, I'd love to find the problem, but this just occured overnight last night. :s
#383 [06:25] <MSglol> I'm on OSX now and got W8 on my bootcamp. Works on windows, not OSX. And CrusSchool's server looks online, but when I try to join I get the same error message.
#384 [06:26] <CrusSchool> Wait, it actually tells you my server is actually connectable? :I It isn't for me!
#385 [06:26] <MSglol> Yes, it does.
#386 [06:26] <MSglol> 0/1337 slots available.
#387 [06:26] <MSglol> *taken
#388 [06:26] <CrusSchool> Hrm.
#389 [06:26] <CrusSchool> Sorry, MS, but I gotta go to school. :s
#390 [06:27] <MSglol> That's okay.
#391 [06:27] <CrusSchool> Cya
#392 [06:27] <MSglol> Enjoy!
#393 [06:27] <MSglol> And thanks.
#394 [06:27] <MSglol> cya.
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#399 [06:56] <Ollie2000> For some reason I can't get on with my main account but I can with my alt, can someone help me?
#400 [06:56] <Ollie2000> I know my password is correct.
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#402 [07:01] <mib_904vxj> Is MC still having Multiplayer issues?
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#404 [07:02] <mib_904vxj> No one?
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#406 [07:02] <g> So,
#407 [07:02] <g> I /just/ logged into my client
#408 [07:02] <g> Connecting to my server gives "Bad login"
#409 [07:02] <mib_904vxj> Anyone else getting "Bad login"?
#410 [07:03] <g> ...lol
#411 [07:03] <mib_904vxj> Must be Mc then
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#414 [07:03] <Ollie2000> I just managed to log in.
#415 [07:03] <g> not here
#416 [07:03] <g> something funky goin' on
#417 [07:03] <g> all my servers are doin' it
#418 [07:04] <Ollie2000> Something is wrong.
#419 [07:04] <Ollie2000> yet mojang support center says everything is fine.
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#421 [07:04] <g> clearly their testing isn't up to scratcch
#422 [07:04] <g> scratch*
#423 [07:04] <Andrio> Apparently 'Mojang support centre' is wrong.
#424 [07:04] <gTop2002> Andrio, it's not really a surprise
#425 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> Did the ip addresses at Mojang change? If so, it could several hours for DNS servers to update
#426 [07:05] <gTop2002> That wouldn't be it for us
#427 [07:05] <gTop2002> I tried refreshing DNS
#428 [07:05] <gTop2002> :P
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#430 [07:06] <gTop2002> ugh, I need food, AFK
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#432 [07:07] <RougeFox> I was wondering how do I prevent my server from auto-saving when i issue the /stop or /restart command?
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#436 [07:10] <RougeFox> i know it sounds like a crazy question, how ever i'm running the only 24/7 Cube Controle server and right now if i can fix this issue of the server auto-saving on close, then i wouldn't have anything to worry about.
#437 [07:10] <danshatdanila> RougeFox: Server saving automatically.Dont worry.
#438 [07:10] <RougeFox> no, no, the thing is i don't want it to save.
#439 [07:11] <danshatdanila> you don't want that your server automatically would save?
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#441 [07:12] <RougeFox> i start the server, players play a round, map gets trashed, issue /restart command, and map is like it was when server started.
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#443 [07:13] <danshatdanila> Means, the server remained when you started it.
#444 [07:14] <RougeFox> i need to be able to fully disable it's save fuctions, so that when i restart the server, the map is like it was when server first started.
#445 [07:14] <RougeFox> with out having to re-upload the map files via FTP
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#447 [07:15] <danshatdanila> you want that the server saved at start?
#448 [07:17] <RougeFox> when i issue the /stop command in console, the server will auto-save. do not want auto-save.
#449 [07:17] <danshatdanila> Adjust a plug-in.
#450 [07:18] <danshatdanila> Or join #bukkit
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#452 [07:18] <gAway2002> Isn't that /save-off?
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#454 [07:22] <RougeFox> tried /save-off still will auto save
#455 [07:23] <gTop2002> hmm, I have no idea
#456 [07:23] <gTop2002> Try #bukkit
#457 [07:23] <RougeFox> in there now, asking
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#472 [07:43] <skyradi239> hello, I can not enter preimium servers, I get the message, bad login
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#474 [07:52] <lightstal> ahy1 here chat?
#475 [07:52] <lightstal> ahy1 here chat?
#476 [07:52] <lightstal> ahy1 here chat?!
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#478 [07:52] <lightstal> ahy1 here chat?!1
#479 [07:53] <lightstal> ahy1 here chat?!1!!
#480 [07:53] <lightstal> ahy1 here chat?!1!!!!
#481 [07:53] <lightstal> ahy1 here chat?!1!!!!!
#482 [07:53] <lightstal> ahy1 here chat?!1!!!!!!
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#484 [07:53] <lightstal> ahy1 here chat?!1!!!!!!!
#485 [07:53] <Scratchyanditchy> Hi
#486 [07:53] <lightstal> u know why i cant login!!!
#487 [07:53] <lightstal> u know why i cant login!!!
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#490 [07:55] <lightstal> DOES ANY1 KNOW WHY I KEEP HAVING BAD LOGIN FOR EVERY SERVER
#491 [07:55] <Scratchyanditchy> Mojang servers are down.
#492 [07:55] <Scratchyanditchy> So you are unable to log in.
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#494 [07:56] <lightstal> THEN WHY EVERY1 ELSE CAN LOGIN!!
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#496 [07:56] <Scratchyanditchy> Re start minecraft
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#498 [07:57] <lightstal> i did <.<
#499 [07:57] <Necrodoom> migrated cant
#500 [07:57] <lightstal> ...
#501 [07:57] <lightstal> WHY
#502 [07:57] <lightstal> WHY
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#510 [08:06] <yeimbaws> hey, my minecraft wont work because it says bad video card driver? how can i fix this
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#516 [08:29] <danshatdanila> RougeFox: Understood?
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#523 [08:53] <Beast_5> j
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#529 [09:13] * tyteen4a03 pops
#529 [09:13] <clarjon1> O.O
#530 [09:13] <clarjon1> Hey, it's tyteen4a03!
#531 [09:13] <clarjon1> Long time no see.
#532 [09:13] <tyteen4a03> hi clarjon1
#533 [09:14] <tyteen4a03> long time no see indeed
#534 [09:17] * Grim_Reaper pops tyteen4a03
#534 [09:17] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper, hi
#535 [09:18] <Grim_Reaper> \o
#536 [09:18] <tyteen4a03> quiet as usual
#537 [09:19] * Grim_Reaper nods
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#542 [09:43] <Sauerzitrone> Hello
#543 [09:45] <Sauerzitrone> i allready bought minecraft on my desktop... now i wanted to downloade an play it on my laptop but when i try to log in at the launcher it only say ''User not premium'' what does it mean?
#544 [09:45] * worldmc|afk is now known as worldmc
#545 [09:46] <danshatdanila> Sauerzitrone: Do you register on web site?
#546 [09:46] <Sauerzitrone> yes
#547 [09:46] <danshatdanila> Try again or download minecraft again
#548 [09:46] <Sauerzitrone> i downlaoedt it 3 times...
#549 [09:47] <danshatdanila> Aww
#550 [09:47] <danshatdanila> Web>>> www.minecraftforum.com
#551 [09:48] <danshatdanila> im pirate
#552 [09:49] <Sauerzitrone> afuq oO ^^
#553 [09:50] * Yeti|InHiding is now known as BranicYeti
#554 [09:51] <Grim_Reaper> Sauerzitrone. Buy the game
#555 [09:51] <Grim_Reaper> Thats why you are getting that error
#556 [09:51] <Grim_Reaper> Oh you said you bought?
#557 [09:51] <Grim_Reaper> Where did you buy the game from?
#558 [09:52] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper, just a heads up, danshatdanila and Sauerzitrone are different persons
#559 [09:52] <Sauerzitrone> from the official website...
#560 [09:52] <Grim_Reaper> tyteen4a03 yeah
#561 [09:52] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, head to minecraft.net/download
#562 [09:52] <Grim_Reaper> Sauerzitrone how did you pay?
#563 [09:53] <danshatdanila> Im away :L
#564 [09:53] <tyteen4a03> danshatdanila, your message earlier caught my attention :P
#565 [09:53] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#566 [09:54] <Sauerzitrone> hmmm i think bank statement??? is it called like that?
#567 [09:54] <Grim_Reaper> Sounds like you may need to wait for a few days then for your payment to go through
#568 [09:55] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, Credit Card, PayPal or something else?
#569 [09:55] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, also, username please?
#570 [09:55] <Grim_Reaper> Did you recieve an email after you paid?
#571 [09:55] * tyteen4a03 needs to stop asking questions
#571 [09:55] <Grim_Reaper> pfft
#572 [09:55] <Grim_Reaper> Asking questions solves things sometimes
#573 [09:55] * danshatdanila hit ground too hard
#573 [09:56] * danshatdanila died
#573 [09:56] <Sauerzitrone> i allready bought it over 4-5 months and i allready played it on my dektop pc... but no i wanted to downloade and play it on my laptop...
#574 [09:56] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper, not when 2 people ask 3 questions in 1 second
#575 [09:56] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#576 [09:56] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, username please?
#577 [09:56] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah whats your username?
#578 [09:56] <Sauerzitrone> Sauerzitrone is my username ^^
#579 [09:56] <danshatdanila> Sauerzitrone
#580 [09:56] <Necrodoom> !paid Sauerzitrone
#581 [09:56] <danshatdanila> !time
#582 [09:56] <GreyBot> GreyBot's time is: Tue Dec 11 09:56:52 2012.
#583 [09:56] <Grim_Reaper> Are you sure you're typing your username in correctly?
#584 [09:56] <danshatdanila> !tea
#585 [09:56] <danshatdanila> )
#586 [09:57] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, make sure your laptop has internet access
#587 [09:57] <Sauerzitrone> yes i can log in on the website,,,
#588 [09:57] <danshatdanila> Sauerzitrone
#589 [09:57] <Necrodoom> this went into a total mess
#590 [09:57] <Grim_Reaper> Try running the launcher as admin
#591 [09:57] <tyteen4a03> Necrodoom, /me nods
#592 [09:57] <danshatdanila> Im invite you to #LockMine
#593 [09:57] <Sauerzitrone> how should i write to you if i wouldn't have internet oO?
#594 [09:57] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, I'm not sure whether you're on your laptop or your desktop
#595 [09:57] <Sauerzitrone> now im on my laptop...
#596 [09:58] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, oh ok
#597 [09:58] <Grim_Reaper> Try running the launcher as Admin
#598 [09:58] <Grim_Reaper> Then see if you can login
#599 [09:58] <Grim_Reaper> Also make sure no antivirus/firewall is blocking the connection
#600 [09:59] <VoxelHead> le derp
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#602 [09:59] <csi_resolver> where can i find someone to join my server?
#603 [10:00] <tyteen4a03> csi_resolver, #smp is a good place to advertisre
#604 [10:00] <danshatdanila> !calc sum 142 / 121
#605 [10:00] <GreyBot> Answer: 0
#606 [10:00] <Necrodoom> #smp
#607 [10:00] <danshatdanila> (
#608 [10:00] <tyteen4a03> csi_resolver, also try minecraft forums
#609 [10:00] <csi_resolver> what is smp
#610 [10:00] <danshatdanila> #LockMine
#611 [10:00] <tyteen4a03> csi_resolver, #smp is a channel on Esper that allows advertising of servers
#612 [10:00] <danshatdanila> -_-
#613 [10:00] <tyteen4a03> danshatdanila, if you want to test the bot go to ##VoxelHead
#614 [10:01] <danshatdanila> OK
#615 [10:01] <Sauerzitrone> i opened it as administrator and when i wanted to lock in it says User not premium...
#616 [10:02] <Necrodoom> Sauerzitrone: you log using email or username?
#617 [10:02] <Sauerzitrone> username
#618 [10:02] <Necrodoom> try email, you may have migrated
#619 [10:02] <Sauerzitrone> i tried and now it says login failed
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#621 [10:03] <Necrodoom> mhm
#622 [10:03] <Necrodoom> no idea then
#623 [10:03] <danshatdanila> tyteen4a03: To me didn't answer
#624 [10:04] <tyteen4a03> danshatdanila, answer what?
#625 [10:04] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, check to see if all anti-viruses and firewalls are disabled
#626 [10:04] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, have you been able to play on your laptop before?
#627 [10:05] <Dead_Clap> whats going on
#628 [10:05] <tyteen4a03> Dead_Clap, just the usual
#629 [10:05] <Dead_Clap> oh ok
#630 [10:06] <Dead_Clap> usualy minecraft is not blocked by any AV but the may sometimes be buggy
#631 [10:07] <tyteen4a03> danshatdanila, the channel is #aubotdevchan
#632 [10:07] <danshatdanila> ok
#633 [10:08] <tyteen4a03> why the heck would I mess up AuBot and VoxelHead?
#634 [10:08] <Sauerzitrone> all anti viruses and firewalls are disabled and ive not been able to play before...
#635 [10:09] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, go to http://login.minecraft.net/
#636 [10:09] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, what does it tell you?
#637 [10:09] <Dead_Clap> !login
#638 [10:09] <Dead_Clap> duh
#639 [10:09] <Dead_Clap> try that
#640 [10:09] <tyteen4a03> Dead_Clap, that only tests whether AuBot can reach login.minecraft.net, not Sauerzitrone
#641 [10:10] <Dead_Clap> !
#642 [10:10] <Sauerzitrone> bad request...
#643 [10:10] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, good
#644 [10:10] <Dead_Clap> want to see what else i can do
#645 [10:10] <Dead_Clap> !paid Sauerzitrone
#646 [10:11] <croccydile> !paid notch
#647 [10:11] * AuBot kicked croccydile from #minecrafthelp (Reason: roccydile :notch has paid for Minecraft!)
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#649 [10:11] <croccydile> lol
#650 [10:11] <Dead_Clap> login.minecraft.net is the MC login service
#651 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, finally, are you sure that you didn't type anything wrong?
#652 [10:11] <Sauerzitrone> yes i can login at the website but not at the launcher to play...
#653 [10:11] <Dead_Clap> change your password
#654 [10:12] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, hmm
#655 [10:12] <Dead_Clap> that what they told me to do last night
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#657 [10:12] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, yeah, change your password to something random and see if you can use this new password to log in
#658 [10:12] <tyteen4a03> if not, you've probably mistyped something
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#660 [10:14] <Sauerzitrone> i changed pw and now its failed login -.-"
#661 [10:14] <Dead_Clap> to check minecraft Service Statuses goto help.mojang.com
#662 [10:14] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, yeah, you typed something wrong then
#663 [10:14] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, try copy and pasting your username in
#664 [10:14] <Dead_Clap> are you using a mojang account
#665 [10:14] <tyteen4a03> Dead_Clap, nope
#666 [10:15] <Dead_Clap> either way all services are correct and running
#667 [10:15] <Sauerzitrone> its all the same what i used at my desktop...
#668 [10:16] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, huh?
#669 [10:16] <Dead_Clap> is there a chat where i can advertise a server
#670 [10:16] <tyteen4a03> Dead_Clap, #smp
#671 [10:16] <Dead_Clap> thanks
#672 [10:16] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, does that mean you can log in, or not?
#673 [10:16] <Sauerzitrone> i can log in at the website but not at the launcher...
#674 [10:17] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper, any ideas?
#675 [10:17] <Grim_Reaper> Only thing i can guess is something is blocking the launcher
#676 [10:18] <Sauerzitrone> if i try to play demo it tries to load... it says done loading but the loadbar is not ended... and nothing happens...
#677 [10:18] <Grim_Reaper> You COULD try reinstalling minecraft (deleting the .minecraft folder on your laptop
#678 [10:18] <Grim_Reaper> And try redownload
#679 [10:18] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper, it has never worked
#680 [10:18] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, have you ever used a pirated copy of Minecraft before?
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#682 [10:18] <Sauerzitrone> yes... but not at my laptop...
#683 [10:18] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, hmm
#684 [10:19] <Sauerzitrone> and at my dektop everything was ok...
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#686 [10:19] <Gurkenglas> On my 1.4.5 server, my anvil stopped working
#687 [10:19] <Gurkenglas> On my 1.4.5 server, my anvil stopped working
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#689 [10:20] <Gurkenglas> When I try to pull out the result of an operation in it, it appears to work
#690 [10:20] <Gurkenglas> But after a few seconds, the pulled out item disappears, the items that were in there reappear (and are dropped if the gui is closed in the meantime)
#691 [10:20] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, can you try playing at least once in minecraft.net/play and then try logging in again?
#692 [10:20] <Gurkenglas> And on relog, the experience levels are reset to their previous value
#693 [10:20] <Gurkenglas> Using another anvil didnt work
#694 [10:22] <Sauerzitrone> on the website i can play the demo...
#695 [10:22] <Sauerzitrone> wait...
#696 [10:23] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, minecraft.net/play
#697 [10:23] <Gurkenglas> On local creative, I can use the anvil
#698 [10:23] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, if you logged in you should be able to play full version
#699 [10:24] <Gurkenglas> Using creative on the server, I can use it
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#701 [10:26] <Gurkenglas> Wat do :(
#702 [10:27] <tyteen4a03> Gurkenglas, just to let you know that there are people here, I just happen to not know how to solve your issue
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#705 [10:28] <Sauerzitrone> my pc broke down
#706 [10:28] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, when trying to run minecraft?
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#709 [10:29] <Sauerzitrone> jep... on the website... now i can play on the website demo...
#710 [10:30] <VoxelHead> /me sings the tune of the dead
#711 [10:30] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, so why did your pc die?
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#714 [10:31] <Gurkenglas> Oh, and earlier it worked
#715 [10:31] <Sauerzitrone> i dont know... mayby it worked too long... its running sine 6 hours...
#716 [10:32] <tyteen4a03> ??> Sauerzitrone win/dxdiag/bat
#717 [10:32] <VoxelHead> Sauerzitrone: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#718 [10:32] <VoxelHead> Sauerzitrone: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
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#720 [10:32] <Sauerzitrone> tyteen... what????
#721 [10:32] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, oops
#722 [10:32] <tyteen4a03> wrong channe;
#723 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, anyways back to your issue, if you logged into the website you should be able to play the full version of Minecraft
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#725 [10:35] <Sauerzitrone> nop... it says You can try a demo version of Minecraft below. If you like what you see, buy the full version! Buy now
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#727 [10:36] <Sauerzitrone> and at the top it says Your logged in as Saurezitrone... so im in...
#728 [10:36] <tyteen4a03> !paid Saurezitrone
#729 [10:36] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, you'll have to email Mojang about this issue, since the database entry of you seems messed up
#730 [10:36] <Necrodoom> wait, what
#731 [10:37] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, you can email Mojang at help.mojang.com
#732 [10:37] <tyteen4a03> Necrodoom, ikr
#733 [10:37] <tyteen4a03> !paid Sauerzitrone
#734 [10:38] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, you mistyped
#735 [10:38] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, your name's fourth and fifth letter were reversed
#736 [10:38] <tyteen4a03> so it's SauER, not RE
#737 [10:39] <Sauerzitrone> yeah i know but in deppressoin and confusing i tryed every combination.... but i know saurezitrone is right,,,
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#739 [10:40] <Sauerzitrone> the code and name to enter the website is the same as to play it or?
#740 [10:40] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, your account is paid under SauERzitrone, not the reverse
#741 [10:40] <Necrodoom> Sauerzitrone, is right one
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#743 [10:40] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, in order to play you will have to enter Sauerzitrone, not the SauRE one which is unpaid
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#745 [10:41] <tyteen4a03> hi oldtopman
#746 [10:41] <oldtopman> Morning.
#747 [10:41] <Sauerzitrone> oO i know... i allready tried both combinations...
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#749 [10:41] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, make sure you log in with the ER one, not the RE one
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#751 [10:41] <Sauerzitrone> and i only have the one acocunt with sauERzitrone...
#752 [10:41] * AuBot kicked Sauerzitrone from #minecrafthelp (Reason: auerzitrone :Please keep it civil.)
#753 [10:42] <tyteen4a03> ...what
#754 [10:42] <Necrodoom> wat
#755 [10:42] * tyteen4a03 kicks AuBot
#755 [10:42] <tyteen4a03> bad bot
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#757 [10:42] <Sauerzitrone> oO???
#758 [10:42] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, sorry about that, I had no idea why it did that
#759 [10:42] <Necrodoom> Sauerzitrone: kick bot being stupid
#760 [10:42] <Sauerzitrone> ^^
#761 [10:42] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, you logged into the RE one
#762 [10:43] <tyteen4a03> not the ER one
#763 [10:43] <Necrodoom> oh, its prob because you misspelled "account"
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#765 [10:43] <tyteen4a03> Necrodoom,lol
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#768 [10:44] <oldtopman> sauERzitrone
#769 [10:44] <Sauerzitrone> yes... i tried to login as sauREzitrone and it says User not premium...
#770 [10:44] <oldtopman> and i only have the one acocunt with
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#772 [10:44] <oldtopman> with sauERzitrone
#773 [10:44] * oldtopman wonders if it exempts ops
#773 [10:45] <Sauerzitrone> yes i meant that...
#774 [10:45] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, you should log in using the ER account, not the RE one, because the RE one is not premium
#775 [10:45] <oldtopman> Sauerzitrone: Sorry, just trying to figure out why AuBot went rogue.
#776 [10:46] <Sauerzitrone> with sauERzitrone it says login failed... with sauREzitrone it says User not premium...
#777 [10:46] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, since you just changed your password as instructed, try both the old password and the new password
#778 [10:46] <tyteen4a03> oldtopman, he misspelled account
#779 [10:46] <tyteen4a03> he spelt acoc unt
#780 [10:46] <oldtopman> oic
#781 [10:46] <oldtopman> ehehe
#782 [10:47] <Sauerzitrone> with the old pw its login failed
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#784 [10:49] <Sauerzitrone> how can i email mojang again?
#785 [10:49] <tyteen4a03> Sauerzitrone, help.mojang.com
#786 [10:49] <mindcat> sauERzitrone
#787 [10:49] <mindcat> acocunt
#788 [10:49] * AuBot kicked mindcat from #minecrafthelp (Reason: indcat :Please keep it civil.)
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#790 [10:50] <mindcat> yes :D
#791 [10:50] * tyteen4a03 rolls
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#792 [10:50] <Sauerzitrone> ooooookaaaay guys.... i have no idea whats different but no i can play offline... and if i do that i get into the normal minecraft with the abilitiy to play multiplayer...
#793 [10:51] <danshatdanila> acocount
#794 [10:51] <danshatdanila> acocunt
#795 [10:51] * AuBot kicked danshatdanila from #minecrafthelp (Reason: anshatdanila :Please keep it civil.)
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#797 [10:51] <mindcat> cunt
#798 [10:51] * AuBot kicked mindcat from #minecrafthelp (Reason: indcat :Please keep it civil.)
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#800 [10:51] <mindcat> cun
#801 [10:51] <danshatdanila> poop
#802 [10:51] <mindcat> unt
#803 [10:51] <danshatdanila> .jsd
#804 [10:51] <danshatdanila> hd
#805 [10:51] <danshatdanila> dvfdh
#806 [10:51] <Sauerzitrone> soooo.... THANKS to all that have spend time for me :DDD
#807 [10:51] <danshatdanila> acco
#808 [10:52] <danshatdanila> accocu
#809 [10:52] <danshatdanila> accocunt
#810 [10:52] * AuBot kicked danshatdanila from #minecrafthelp (Reason: anshatdanila :Please keep it civil.)
#811 [10:52] <mindcat> "cunt"
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#818 [10:54] <oldtopman> We got that :P
#819 [10:55] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#820 [10:55] <Hg> ?? account
#821 [10:55] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#822 [10:55] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
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#826 [11:01] <oOFlameOo> hello i need some help my minecraft dosnt log into servers
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#828 [11:01] <oOFlameOo> hello i need some help my minecraft dosnt log into servers
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#841 [11:22] <Sclark1919> When i login to minecraft on my pc i get, "Failed to login: Bad login." But, if i go to minecraft.net and login then connect to the server everything is fine in browser. Please help!!
#842 [11:23] <sugoi> Sclark1919: stuff is broken
#843 [11:23] <Sclark1919> whats broken?
#844 [11:23] <clarjon1> Sclark1919: Stuff.
#845 [11:24] <sugoi> mojang, it's affecting all of us
#846 [11:24] <Sclark1919> oh, ok just wanted to make sure i wasnt the only one
#847 [11:24] <clarjon1> Sclark1919: The auth servers broke. Again.
#848 [11:24] <sugoi> player solo, or use an offline server in the meantime, sorry
#849 [11:24] <clarjon1> Or use thebrowser
#850 [11:25] <Sclark1919> Its fine ill just play in browser
#851 [11:25] * sugoi wonders if this is all a ruse to get us on the cloud...
#851 [11:25] <Sclark1919> How long has this been broken?
#852 [11:25] <sugoi> off and back on for about a day
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#855 [11:27] <kurtis_> What should I do if I'm getting "Failed to Login: Bad Login" for ever server I attempt to login with
#856 [11:27] <Sclark1919> Everyone is getting it
#857 [11:27] <Sclark1919> just asked that
#858 [11:28] <sugoi> Sclark1919: has become the teacher
#859 [11:28] <kurtis_> Sclark1919: oh ok, so it's not just me?
#860 [11:28] <sugoi> kurtis_: mojang auth server is having big issues, off and back on for about a day :)
#861 [11:28] <sugoi> kurtis_: you can use a web browser to play
#862 [11:28] <sugoi> or solo
#863 [11:28] <sugoi> or offline mode
#864 [11:28] <Sclark1919> Im using web browser
#865 [11:28] <Sclark1919> It still works
#866 [11:28] <kurtis_> sugoi: ah ok, thank you, any idea when it will be back up or where I can monitor the status?
#867 [11:29] <sugoi> kurtis_: i was really hoping they'd have it by now, but no, we don't have any info on eta
#868 [11:29] <sugoi> normally i check help.mojang.com for status
#869 [11:29] <sugoi> but that shows green
#870 [11:29] <sugoi> so, i (personally) don't know
#871 [11:29] <Sclark1919> Thats why I headed over here, all status lights were green
#872 [11:30] <kurtis_> sugoi: so just sit tight then I guess
#873 [11:30] <sugoi> kurtis_: yeah, sorry
#874 [11:30] <kurtis_> sugoi: no worries
#875 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> !login
#876 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, what?
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#878 [11:33] <Grim_Reaper> https://twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/278525680759738368
#879 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> .sitedown
#880 [11:34] <Grim_Reaper> VoxelHead you meanie
#881 [11:34] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
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#883 [11:34] <VoxelHead> Oerg866, welcome to #minecrafthelp.
#884 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> .sitedown Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Please be patient as Mojang has been notified of this issue.
#885 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> ugh
#886 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> .siteup
#887 [11:34] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
#888 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> .sitedown Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Please be patient as Mojang has been notified of this issue.
#889 [11:34] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
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#891 [11:35] <VoxelHead> su, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Please be patient as Mojang has been notified of this issue.
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#894 [11:35] <VoxelHead> AuraVoid, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Please be patient as Mojang has been notified of this issue.
#895 [11:35] <tyteen4a03> maybe I'll try again
#896 [11:35] <tyteen4a03> .siteup
#897 [11:35] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
#898 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> .sitedown .sitedown Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Mojang is currently fixing this issue. Please be patient. (Related announcement: http://bit.ly/VAFNLD)
#899 [11:36] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
#900 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> fail
#901 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> .siteup
#902 [11:36] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
#903 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> .sitedown Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Mojang is currently fixing this issue. Please be patient. (Related announcement: http://bit.ly/VAFNLD)
#904 [11:36] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
#905 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> better
#906 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> better
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#908 [11:39] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: heh :)
#909 [11:39] * tyteen4a03 shrugs
#909 [11:39] <sugoi> ok, afk
#910 [11:40] <su> Seems to be working now
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#912 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper, why did VoxelHead relay your topic change? o.o
#913 [11:42] <Grim_Reaper> Always seems to do so
#914 [11:43] <unimatrix> ok
#915 [11:43] <unimatrix> this is borderline insanity
#916 [11:44] <unimatrix> ofline again?
#917 [11:44] <Morrolan> Semi-offline, anyway. ;)
#918 [11:44] <unimatrix> unacceptable
#919 [11:44] <unimatrix> bunch of noobsd
#920 [11:44] <Morrolan> *shrug*
#921 [11:45] <Morrolan> Their service isn't terribly reliable indeed.
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#924 [11:46] <VoxelHead> ryans1230, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Mojang is currently fixing this issue. Please be patient. (Related announcement: http://bit.ly/VAFNLD)
#925 [11:46] <ryans1230> Can an owner of a server make an Intellectual Property claim on the server and all creations in it?
#926 [11:47] <Morrolan> I doubt it.
#927 [11:47] <Morrolan> Though I don't think we've got any experts in here.
#928 [11:47] <tyteen4a03> ryans1230, as far as I know DMCA complaints does not work on Minecraft buildings
#929 [11:47] <Morrolan> If anyone could, it'd be the one who created it initially. (The building, not the server.)
#930 [11:47] <tyteen4a03> unless you have proof that you built the structure in question and is willing to go to court, you could try
#931 [11:48] <ryans1230> Could all the buildings be Copyrighted
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#933 [11:48] <VoxelHead> Calinou, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Mojang is currently fixing this issue. Please be patient. (Related announcement: http://bit.ly/VAFNLD)
#934 [11:49] <Morrolan> All we can give you are guesses based on common sense, ryans1230.
#935 [11:49] <Morrolan> And I believe common sense doesn't apply with this whole stuff much.
#936 [11:49] <Morrolan> apply to? Eh, pick whatever word fits best.
#937 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> ryans1230, the Berne Convention covers Protection of Literary and Artistic Works but while it can be argued that Minecraft Buildings falls under Artistic Works there has not been a revalent case yet
#938 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> *relevant
#939 [11:50] <ryans1230> A website can copyright all forum posts and the owner of that copyright can make DMCA complaints on it. Would a server not fall under the same conditions?
#940 [11:50] <Morrolan> Try it.
#941 [11:50] <Morrolan> Then let us know how it worked out, and we'll all be smarter. :D
#942 [11:51] <tyteen4a03> ryans1230, there are no revelant cases as of now
#943 [11:51] <Morrolan> Alternatively, just ignore that server owner's claim. :)
#944 [11:51] <Morrolan> In the end, what does it matter if he claims this or that.
#945 [11:51] <ryans1230> haha
#946 [11:51] <Calinou> ryans1230: patent blocks!
#947 [11:52] <Calinou> "a cube that has a dimension of 1m×1m×1m is a Block(R)." < this patent will be accepted i bet
#948 [11:52] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, and you become a patent troll!
#949 [11:52] <tyteen4a03> in other news I drank 4L of orange juice in 3 days
#950 [11:53] <ryans1230> But could an IP claim be vaild for removing hate speech videos on various video upload sites?
#951 [11:53] <tyteen4a03> ryans1230, no
#952 [11:53] <ryans1230> Since IP is basically a copyright
#953 [11:53] <Morrolan> "I invented hate speech!"?
#954 [11:53] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, that made my day
#955 [11:54] <Morrolan> I'm glad it did. :)
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#957 [11:54] <Morrolan> About that orange juice...
#958 [11:54] <VoxelHead> benhunter09, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Mojang is currently fixing this issue. Please be patient. (Related announcement: http://bit.ly/VAFNLD)
#959 [11:55] <ryans1230> The owner owns the serve (no dip), and thus isn't any creation on it "his" property?
#960 [11:55] <Morrolan> Doubt it.
#961 [11:55] <tyteen4a03> ryans1230, implictly, I would think so, but none of us are judges
#962 [11:56] <ryans1230> I'll talk to the owner and get back to you.
#963 [11:56] <ryans1230> \se what he has to say
#964 [11:56] <tyteen4a03> good luck
#965 [11:56] <ryans1230> see*
#966 [11:56] <tyteen4a03> what is he trying to achieve anyway
#967 [11:56] <Morrolan> Assuming my sister would build some piece of art out of my cereal, and the art world would love it, I'd have a hard time claiming to own this piece of art. :D
#968 [11:56] <Morrolan> cereals*
#969 [11:56] <Morrolan> No clue.
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#972 [11:58] <VoxelHead> mr_flea, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Mojang is currently fixing this issue. Please be patient. (Related announcement: http://bit.ly/VAFNLD)
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#974 [11:59] <VoxelHead> popey, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Mojang is currently fixing this issue. Please be patient. (Related announcement: http://bit.ly/VAFNLD)
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#976 [12:02] <VoxelHead> obi_wan, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Mojang is currently fixing this issue. Please be patient. (Related announcement: http://bit.ly/VAFNLD)
#977 [12:02] <obi_wan> Hey :)
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#979 [12:02] <VoxelHead> WeryS98, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft Login Server is currently having issues for some users. Mojang is currently fixing this issue. Please be patient. (Related announcement: http://bit.ly/VAFNLD)
#980 [12:02] <benhunter09> Hi
#981 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> hi
#982 [12:03] <obi_wan> Hi
#983 [12:03] <WeryS98> hi
#984 [12:03] <obi_wan> Hi
#985 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, yet I feel strangely fine, having gulped 4L of juice
#986 [12:03] <WeryS98> Obi, mow o co chodzi, bo ja cos pewnie zle powiem i wiesz... :D
#987 [12:03] <obi_wan> Skejp ;D
#988 [12:03] <WeryS98> i bedzie siara przed angolami :P
#989 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> I should be automatically fatter but I don't feel fatter
#990 [12:03] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Well, four liters per three days isn't that much.
#991 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> probably because winter
#992 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, those ones that add a lot of sugar in it
#993 [12:04] <obi_wan> VoxelHea
#994 [12:04] <obi_wan> VoxelHea
#995 [12:04] <obi_wan> VoxelHeaD
#996 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> even if they say Low Sugar it's still a lot of sugar
#997 [12:04] <Morrolan> obi_wan - He's a bot. ;D
#998 [12:04] <obi_wan> ;<
#999 [12:04] <obi_wan> Anyone help then?
#1000 [12:04] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Ah.
#1001 [12:04] <Morrolan> obi_wan - Maaaybe?
#1002 [12:04] <benhunter09> The bot of wisdom
#1003 [12:04] * obi_wan is now known as Keno9bi
#1004 [12:04] <Morrolan> obi_wan - Somewhat depends on what you need help with, really.
#1005 [12:05] <VoxelHead> bzzt bzzt
#1006 [12:05] <Morrolan> Keno9bi - And on whether you'll tell anyone.
#1007 [12:05] <Keno9bi> On MC Account
#1008 [12:05] * Morrolan pours a bucket of water over VoxelHead
#1008 [12:05] <Morrolan> Damn circuit's frying again.
#1009 [12:05] <Morrolan> Now he's fried completely, at least.
#1010 [12:05] <Keno9bi> So, is it possobiel to get a Minecraft Account back by using the giftcode you used for the certain acc?
#1011 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> Keno9bi, Yes
#1012 [12:05] <Keno9bi> possible*
#1013 [12:06] <VoxelHead> bzzt bzzt bzzt
#1014 [12:06] <Keno9bi> How can you do it?
#1015 [12:06] <Keno9bi> My friend had his acc stolen and he has the giftcode
#1016 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> Keno9bi, send an email to Mojang, including the full gift code and the account name in question
#1017 [12:06] <Morrolan> There's a form somewhere on help.mojang.com
#1018 [12:06] <Keno9bi> He sent an e-mail to em 2 weeks ago and got no reply
#1019 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> ??< mojang/email
#1020 [12:06] <Morrolan> Which we still haven't saved the URL anywhere. *sob*
#1021 [12:06] <Keno9bi> xD
#1022 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> why does that factoid not exist?
#1023 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> ??> index
#1024 [12:07] * Keno9bi is now known as Kenobi
#1025 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#1026 [12:07] <Morrolan> Kenobi - Here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1027 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> ??+ mojang/email|You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1028 [12:07] <Morrolan> Kenobi - Where it says 'Transaction ID' you can put in your giftcode. Then you'll have to give them a week or two.
#1029 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> that's better
#1030 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, not 2 months anymore?
#1031 [12:07] <Kenobi> Okay, thanks. :)
#1032 [12:08] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - A month or two ago they started catching up. It's been stuck at one week+ for quite some time now, though.
#1033 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, I see
#1034 [12:08] <Morrolan> I'm still not convinced they didn't just drop a few hundred e-mails. :P
#1035 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> ??< mojang/twitter
#1036 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, heh
#1037 [12:08] <Morrolan> It's more like two weeks, seemingly.
#1038 [12:09] <Morrolan> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back- November 26th to December 10th.
#1039 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> I would not be surprised
#1040 [12:09] <Rikairchy> hi tyteen4a03
#1041 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> hi Rikairchy
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#1044 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper, source?
#1045 [12:12] <Grim_Reaper> https://twitter.com/mollstam/status/278546542552551425
#1046 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> .siteup
#1047 [12:12] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
#1048 [12:12] <Rikairchy> it speaks
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#1050 [12:12] <VoxelHead> bzzt
#1051 [12:12] <Morrolan> Only when told to. And when it feels like it.
#1052 [12:12] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1053 [12:12] <Morrolan> If you ask me, it feels like it far too often.
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#1055 [12:13] <VoxelHead> Like now I feel like talking bro
#1056 [12:13] <Rikairchy> lawl
#1057 [12:13] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper, may you hand me the bucket, please?
#1058 [12:13] <Grim_Reaper> sure o.o
#1059 [12:13] * Grim_Reaper hands Morrolan the bucket
#1059 [12:13] * Morrolan pours another bucket of water over VoxelHead
#1059 [12:13] <VoxelHead> Mmm Morrolan
#1060 [12:13] <Morrolan> Must be better isolated than I thought. :S
#1061 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, a bot is hitting on you
#1062 [12:14] <VoxelHead> Well back to stalking people in the channel pretending like Im not alive!
#1063 [12:14] <Rikairchy> D:
#1064 [12:14] <Morrolan> Yes, do that, before anyone notices.
#1065 [12:14] <Morrolan> Oh, and someone take Rikairchy to our... you know where. He's seen too much. ;)
#1066 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, ministry of love?
#1067 [12:14] <Kenobi> Any of you heard of MineCash?
#1068 [12:15] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Yes.
#1069 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> Kenobi, iConomy's default credit name?
#1070 [12:15] <clarjon1> Kenobi: You mean the one that has a keylogger?
#1071 [12:15] <Kenobi> Might be, dunno, it's a keylogged modification
#1072 [12:15] <Kenobi> Yep
#1073 [12:15] <clarjon1> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1594161-minecash-account-catcher/
#1074 [12:16] <Kenobi> 2 famous YouTubers have stolen over 500 account using that ..
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#1076 [12:16] <VoxelHead> I have an enormous battery operated vibrator.
#1077 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> wat
#1078 [12:16] <Kenobi> Can I have it?
#1079 [12:17] <Rikairchy> nou
#1080 [12:17] <Rikairchy> hi clarjon1
#1081 [12:17] <clarjon1> Ohai rik
#1082 [12:17] <VoxelHead> Alright Morrolan. Rikairchy right this way. I'll lead you to your prostitute. :) You'll feel lively soon
#1083 [12:17] <Grim_Reaper> Time to go eat. Afk
#1084 [12:17] <Rikairchy> how's you?
#1085 [12:17] <tyteen4a03> I think VoxelHead is a bit derpy today
#1086 [12:17] * tyteen4a03 kicks VoxelHead
#1086 [12:17] <VoxelHead> ow
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#1088 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> should fix it
#1089 [12:18] * Eddie heals VoxelHead
#1089 [12:18] <Kenobi> Guys
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#1091 [12:18] <Kenobi> You know on the Mojang form thing
#1092 [12:18] <Morrolan> Ayup?
#1093 [12:18] <Kenobi> When you write ya gift-code, do you write it like " 000-000-000-?
#1094 [12:18] <Kenobi> Or just as a whole number
#1095 [12:19] <Morrolan> Err, it's not getting parsed by any software, a human will deal with it.
#1096 [12:19] <Morrolan> So it shouldn't matter much. :)
#1097 [12:19] <Kenobi> So just write it all together?
#1098 [12:19] <Eddie> Humans like numbers grouped together in 3s or 4s
#1099 [12:19] <Morrolan> Chances are the human will copy-paste it anyway.
#1100 [12:19] <VoxelHead> lots and lots of teabags with vibrators. bzzz
#1101 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> Eddie, hex strings are unloved
#1102 [12:20] <Eddie> I don't mind them.
#1103 [12:20] <Eddie> But they're not grouped in 3s or 4s
#1104 [12:20] <Kenobi> Thanks yos
#1105 [12:21] <Rikairchy> i should sell minecraft gift codes on ebay. let people pay with paypal
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#1107 [12:21] <Rikairchy> unless mohjang does that already
#1108 [12:21] <Rikairchy> mojang
#1109 [12:21] <Rikairchy> whatever
#1110 [12:21] <Morrolan> Nah, they don't sell giftcodes per PayPal.
#1111 [12:21] <Rikairchy> well I could
#1112 [12:21] <Morrolan> Due to, uh, "stolen credit cards being used to buy tons of giftcodes" or something like that.
#1113 [12:21] <Rikairchy> on ebay or amazon or something
#1114 [12:22] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy, mahjong
#1115 [12:22] <Morrolan> *prods VoxelHead*
#1116 [12:22] <Morrolan> Respond to my DCC CHAT requests already. :<
#1117 [12:22] <Rikairchy> nou
#1118 [12:22] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, it's also ignoring mine so
#1119 [12:22] <Rikairchy> can you do a remote kill?
#1120 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy, kill who?
#1121 [12:23] <Rikairchy> or a telnet if its an eggdrop?
#1122 [12:23] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03: kill VoxelHead
#1123 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> it's an eggdrop
#1124 [12:23] <Rikairchy> okay
#1125 [12:23] <Rikairchy> then telnet into it
#1126 [12:23] <Rikairchy> using good ol' telnet
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#1132 [12:28] <danshatdanila> accocunt
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#1135 [12:28] * Morrolan blinks
#1135 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> danshatdanila, wat
#1136 [12:28] <danshatdanila> :D
#1137 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, mIRC DCC worked
#1138 [12:28] <Rikairchy> ew mIRC :<
#1139 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> Hexchat however does not
#1140 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy, I blame VoxelHead
#1141 [12:29] <Rikairchy> i blame your mother
#1142 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti is VoxelHead's mother
#1143 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> I think
#1144 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> or maybe Eddie
#1145 [12:29] <Morrolan> The former.
#1146 [12:29] <Rikairchy> hi Morrolan
#1147 [12:29] <Morrolan> And I'm not sure he wants to be his "mother".
#1148 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> yeah, or else Eddie would have cheated
#1149 [12:31] <VoxelHead> bzzzzzzzzt
#1150 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> acocunt
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#1153 [12:31] <Morrolan> My my.
#1154 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> oh, so even ops get kicked
#1155 [12:31] * tyteen4a03 rolls eye
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#1162 [12:35] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03 I'm drunk.
#1163 [12:35] * Necrodoom slaps VoxelHead
#1163 [12:36] <tyteen4a03> good
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#1165 [12:38] <Eddie> VoxelHead: Fascinating.
#1166 [12:38] <Eddie> Absolutely... fascinating.
#1167 [12:38] <VoxelHead> Could you possibly be my mom?
#1168 [12:38] <Eddie> It is a possibility I won't deny.
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#1170 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> Eddie, so did you cheat on Scott or DopeGhoti is not involved in the making of VoxelHead?
#1171 [12:40] <sugoi> is voxel's mother anna?
#1172 [12:40] <sugoi> as in, boten anna?
#1173 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, I have absoulutely no idea
#1174 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> *absolutely
#1175 [12:40] <sugoi> tell us Eddie, did she ban you so hard?
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#1177 [12:43] <Thunder1> hi
#1178 [12:44] <benhunter09> Hi
#1179 [12:44] <Thunder1> i am looking for a mod which shows me which player modified a block
#1180 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> ??> Thunder1 mods
#1181 [12:44] <VoxelHead> Thunder1: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1182 [12:44] <VoxelHead> Thunder1: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1183 [12:44] <Thunder1> a saw sth similar some time ago on a server
#1184 [12:44] <Thunder1> modification
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#1187 [12:47] <Necrodoom> Thunder1: bukkit plugin, you mea
#1188 [12:48] <clarjon1> Thunder1: There's lots of those
#1189 [12:48] <clarjon1> Thunder1: Google "bukkit block logging"
#1190 [12:48] <clarjon1> you'll find lots
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#1195 [12:52] <Thunder1> without such a plugin installed before the block was created impossible?
#1196 [12:52] <Thunder1> its a mp server without plugins
#1197 [12:54] <Necrodoom> impossible, yes
#1198 [12:56] <Thunder1> :(
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#1206 [13:08] <sakis801> my minecraft is stupid i want make a migrate account and say error too many failed attempts
#1207 [13:08] <sakis801> what can i do?
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#1209 [13:10] <sugoi> sakis801: are you logging in with your email account as your account name now? you should
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#1211 [13:11] <unimatrix> still offline?
#1212 [13:11] <sugoi> unimatrix: i think so
#1213 [13:11] <sugoi> when i checked this morning, yes
#1214 [13:11] <sugoi> but now i'm at work
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#1218 [13:12] <sakis801> look im going to mojang accounts website after i gonna toimport your existing profile i press my username and password and say error too many failed attempts
#1219 [13:13] <sugoi> sakis801: does this help: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/781529
#1220 [13:14] <sakis801> ok thank u very much
#1221 [13:14] <sugoi> .next
#1222 [13:14] * sugoi tickles DopeGhoti
#1222 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> you rang?
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#1226 [13:21] <sugoi> was trying to use .next :)
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#1228 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> it's not active in here yet
#1229 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> last night was just a test
#1230 [13:22] <sugoi> i know...
#1231 [13:22] <sugoi> humor, it fails me
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#1241 [13:39] <Mike_> Hey im having a problem with my server. when i try to direct connect to it it says outdated. im i using the wrong IP? im using the one from system preferences - network.
#1242 [13:39] <sugoi> Mike_: welcome back mike :)
#1243 [13:39] <Mike_> Hey, server is still not working.
#1244 [13:39] <Mike_> no its working i just cant get on it.
#1245 [13:39] <sugoi> Mike_: does the error say your client is outdated, or your server?
#1246 [13:40] <Mike_> when i direct connect to is is says error outdated server.
#1247 [13:41] <sugoi> what version is your client?
#1248 [13:41] <Lutzee> Your client is newer than the server binary you are using
#1249 [13:41] <Lutzee> redownload the server binary from minecraft.net/download
#1250 [13:41] <Mike_> Um... i did not set my server up. i only know how to run it and do basic stuff with it.
#1251 [13:41] <Lutzee> Ahh..
#1252 [13:42] <sugoi> Mike_: *can* you update your server?
#1253 [13:42] <Lutzee> Is it a bukkit server?
#1254 [13:42] <Mike_> its bukkit.
#1255 [13:42] <Mike_> i dont know how to update my server. no
#1256 [13:42] * tryy3|away is now known as tryy3
#1257 [13:42] <sugoi> Mike_: then can you downgrade your client? what client are you using? vanilla?
#1258 [13:43] <Lutzee> Ahhh
#1259 [13:43] <sugoi> Mike_: also, when you start the server, it says the version
#1260 [13:43] <Mike_> no bukkit. it was orivinally vanilla but someone from here walked me through making it bukkit.
#1261 [13:43] <Lutzee> There isn't a recomended build of Vraftbukkit for 1.4.x
#1262 [13:43] <Lutzee> Craftbukkit*
#1263 [13:44] <sugoi> Mike_: what do you want to do, can we define that first?
#1264 [13:44] <sugoi> i feel like there are a lot of options here for you
#1265 [13:44] <sugoi> do you want bukkit? do you want vanilla?
#1266 [13:44] <sugoi> is there some plugin or mod you want?
#1267 [13:44] <Mike_> bukkit cause i use world edit and gaurd. i just need it update it then?
#1268 [13:45] <Mike_> edit and gaurd are already installed
#1269 [13:45] <sugoi> it is important the server version and the mod versions all match
#1270 [13:45] <sugoi> so before you just update your server, i would consider trying to get the right client
#1271 [13:45] <Mike_> i dont use any mods. just plugins.
#1272 [13:45] <sugoi> look
#1273 [13:45] <sugoi> mods, plugins..
#1274 [13:45] <sugoi> modifications
#1275 [13:46] <sugoi> i honestly don't see why ppl get all crazy about the distinctions
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#1277 [13:46] <sugoi> it is extra code or modified code to the core of vanilla
#1278 [13:46] <seanw95> can someone help me with fps?
#1279 [13:46] <sugoi> without the mod api, EVERYTHING is a mod at some level
#1280 [13:46] <sugoi> or i guess, the 'plugin api'
#1281 [13:47] <Mike_> true. so what can i do just to get it working again? can you walk me through just making my bukkit work?
#1282 [13:47] <sugoi> Mike_: you need to know your bukkit server version
#1283 [13:47] <sugoi> then, get the client version to match
#1284 [13:47] <Mike_> how do i find that out? its about three months old.
#1285 [13:47] <sugoi> i highly recommend you go to #bukkit, and just ask "how do i get my bukkit server version, and then how do i get the matching client for it?"
#1286 [13:48] <sugoi> Mike_: hint, your bukkit server startup prints out the version
#1287 [13:48] <sugoi> but ask on #bukkit, not here
#1288 [13:48] <sugoi> it'll be good info for you
#1289 [13:48] <sugoi> it'll be good info for you
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#1292 [13:48] <Frostic> hmmm
#1293 [13:49] <Mike_> off i go then. how do i get to #bukkit?
#1294 [13:49] <sugoi> seanw95: 1st, update your gpu driver, 2nd, use default texture packs size, 3rd: consider optifine
#1295 [13:49] <seanw95> /join #bukkit ?
#1296 [13:49] <seanw95> all done..
#1297 [13:49] <seanw95> I start out at about 100 fps
#1298 [13:49] <sugoi> Mike_: type `/j #bukkit` (without the backticks) and press [enter]
#1299 [13:49] <sugoi> seanw95: you want more? :)
#1300 [13:49] <seanw95> then after about 5 mins My fps drops to about 15
#1301 [13:50] <sugoi> hmm
#1302 [13:50] <Lutzee> seanw95: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/
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#1305 [13:50] <sugoi> seanw95: and it never speeds back up?
#1306 [13:50] <sugoi> 5mins..sounds like memory imo
#1307 [13:50] <seanw95> Not unless I exit to main menu and go back in
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#1309 [13:53] <seanw95> I'm allocating 50% of my ram to java using parameters if that helps
#1310 [13:53] <Lutzee> How much is 50%?
#1311 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> seanw95: also, you might be allocating 50% to the launcher and not to MC itself (:
#1312 [13:54] <seanw95> I've checked in the ingame debug It's allocating correctly(As far as I know)
#1313 [13:54] <seanw95> I just can't understand it
#1314 [13:55] <Lutzee> seanw95: how much ram is in your PC?
#1315 [13:56] <Calinou> erm, you CAN defrag SSDs... "OP is wrong!" :P
#1316 [13:56] * Calinou continues reading the post
#1316 [13:56] <seanw95> 4GB
#1317 [13:56] <Calinou> also, readyboost is beyond pointless :P
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#1319 [13:56] * sugoi disabled readyboost right after clean installs
#1319 [13:57] <peperonipaul> i wil please download it but it dont work's
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#1321 [13:57] <sugoi> PermissionDenied: bad login?
#1322 [13:57] <sugoi> PermissionDenied: sorry
#1323 [13:57] <peperonipaul> no
#1324 [13:57] <sugoi> peperonipaul: bad login?
#1325 [13:57] <sugoi> peperonipaul: what error?
#1326 [13:58] <Calinou> also he's wrong about linux drivers
#1327 [13:58] <Calinou> nvidia linux driver beats the windows one :P
#1328 [13:58] <peperonipaul> i can not com in my acount D:
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#1330 [13:58] <Calinou> and not for intel/amd :P
#1331 [13:58] <peperonipaul> sorry i wil in my acc but it don't works
#1332 [13:59] <peperonipaul> hello?
#1333 [13:59] <sugoi> peperonipaul: sorry, your english is difficult for me
#1334 [13:59] <sugoi> peperonipaul: what does not work?
#1335 [13:59] <Lutzee> peperonipaul: do you get an error of any kind?
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#1337 [13:59] <peperonipaul> i am from the dutch
#1338 [13:59] <seanw95> sooo any ideas about the fps thing?
#1339 [14:00] <peperonipaul> can you speak dutch?
#1340 [14:00] <peperonipaul> no
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#1343 [14:00] <peperonipaul> can anywon from you help me ?
#1344 [14:00] <sugoi> seanw95: if i were you, i'd watch performance monitor, and gpuz, and confirm my hardward was being utilized - and see if anything was spiking and hitting 100%
#1345 [14:00] <sugoi> peperonipaul: we are trying
#1346 [14:00] <sugoi> peperonipaul: we asked you - what error do you get
#1347 [14:01] <peperonipaul> i have no error but i can not op minecraft
#1348 [14:01] <sugoi> peperonipaul: what is "op", do you want to say "open" ?
#1349 [14:02] <peperonipaul> no i wil say i have no error but i can stil minecrafting
#1350 [14:02] <sugoi> peperonipaul: ok, so you are able to login, and play minecraft
#1351 [14:02] <sugoi> peperonipaul: but you want to be "op"?
#1352 [14:02] <peperonipaul> no i wont login
#1353 [14:02] <sugoi> "but i can stil minecrafting"
#1354 [14:02] <sugoi> what does this mean?
#1355 [14:02] <peperonipaul> i can not minecrafting en i have no error
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#1359 [14:03] <sugoi> peperonipaul: ok -- slowly
#1360 [14:03] <sugoi> peperonipaul: did you buy an account on minecraft.net?
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#1362 [14:03] <peperonipaul> yes
#1363 [14:03] <ohithere> hey suogi
#1364 [14:04] <sugoi> peperonipaul: did you download the game from minecraft.net/download?
#1365 [14:04] <sugoi> ohithere: hi
#1366 [14:04] <peperonipaul> yes
#1367 [14:04] <seanw95> sugoi - Only cores 0+1 are utilised and they peak about 20%...minecraft barely uses over 250k of ram however my HDD is being thrashed...:S Shouldn't really matter though
#1368 [14:04] <ohithere> suogi i made a quick program about u wanna see a screenshot? XD
#1369 [14:04] <sugoi> peperonipaul: you downloaded the "launcher" ok
#1370 [14:04] <sugoi> peperonipaul: can you start the launcher?
#1371 [14:04] <ohithere> sugoi*
#1372 [14:04] <sugoi> ohithere: sfw?
#1373 [14:05] <peperonipaul> jes
#1374 [14:05] <sugoi> seanw95: are you playing ssp or smp?
#1375 [14:05] <ohithere> sfw?
#1376 [14:05] <sugoi> peperonipaul: can you enter your email and password, and click login?
#1377 [14:05] <sugoi> ohithere: "Safe For Work"
#1378 [14:05] <peperonipaul> yes
#1379 [14:05] <ohithere> its safe? o.O?
#1380 [14:05] <sugoi> peperonipaul: do you see the mojang logo?
#1381 [14:05] <peperonipaul> no
#1382 [14:06] <sugoi> peperonipaul: what happens when you click login?
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#1384 [14:06] <seanw95> SSP
#1385 [14:06] <sugoi> peperonipaul: does it update?
#1386 [14:06] <peperonipaul> no i seeblack
#1387 [14:06] <peperonipaul> see black
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#1389 [14:06] <sugoi> there we go ! :)
#1390 [14:06] <peperonipaul> en than com this
#1391 [14:06] <peperonipaul> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 11-12-12 20:06 -- System Details -- Details: Minecraft Version: 1.4.5 Operating System: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java Version: 1.7.0_09, Oracle Corporation J
#1392 [14:07] <sugoi> Lutzee: no error, tho
#1393 [14:07] <Lutzee> bingo
#1394 [14:07] <peperonipaul> what is happend
#1395 [14:07] <Lutzee> ??> peperonipaul win/dxdiag
#1396 [14:07] <VoxelHead> peperonipaul: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1397 [14:07] <VoxelHead> peperonipaul: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1398 [14:07] <Lutzee> also this might be of help
#1399 [14:07] <Lutzee> ?? win/key
#1400 [14:07] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1401 [14:07] <seanw95> I had that error on my laptop
#1402 [14:07] <peperonipaul> dxdiag
#1403 [14:08] <peperonipaul> please slowly --
#1404 [14:08] <sugoi> seanw95: are you generating new chunks when the fps drops?
#1405 [14:08] <Lutzee> peperonipaul: Press the windows key and the R key on your keyboard at the same time, then type dxdiag
#1406 [14:08] <seanw95> Let me just test now
#1407 [14:08] <sugoi> seanw95: or, do you have a bazillion entities in the frame? try, for example, making a new world and just afk for 5 mins, check fps
#1408 [14:08] <peperonipaul> what is thje windows key
#1409 [14:09] <Lutzee> ??> peperonipaul win/key
#1410 [14:09] <VoxelHead> peperonipaul: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1411 [14:09] <Frostic> it looks like a windows logo
#1412 [14:09] <Lutzee> ??> win/key/image
#1413 [14:09] <Lutzee> ??> peperonipaul win/key/image
#1414 [14:09] <VoxelHead> peperonipaul: (win/key/image) WARNING: May not appear exactly as shown. http://daily-grind.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Windows-Key-722215.jpg
#1415 [14:09] <sugoi> ohithere: link?
#1416 [14:09] * oldtopman still has the old win95 image on his keyboard
#1416 [14:09] <peperonipaul> o that
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#1418 [14:10] <ohithere> http://i48.tinypic.com/29vo02b.png AND http://i46.tinypic.com/vzc4kg.png
#1419 [14:10] <ohithere> :D
#1420 [14:10] <Frostic> i do to oldtopman
#1421 [14:10] * oldtopman brofists Frostic
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#1422 [14:11] <Frostic> mine isnt even usb its the older plug too. missing a few buttons
#1423 [14:11] <Lutzee> ohithere: What language did you do that in? ._.
#1424 [14:11] <sugoi> holy crap, i have my own app!
#1425 [14:11] <ohithere> pascal XD
#1426 [14:11] <sugoi> haha
#1427 [14:11] <sugoi> rock
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#1429 [14:12] * sugoi gives ohithere a good manly handshake
#1429 [14:12] <ohithere> ;P
#1430 [14:12] <seanw95> Just started a new world like you said; Left for a few mins
#1431 [14:12] <seanw95> my FPS have dropped to 9
#1432 [14:12] <seanw95> 12 chunk updates
#1433 [14:12] <sugoi> well, for giggles, let it chew on it fora bit
#1434 [14:12] <sugoi> see if it picks back up
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#1436 [14:14] <seanw95> Chunk updates fluctuating ebtween 20-40 whilst fps remains solid...This is when I'm stood still...The more updates the more fps I'm noticing
#1437 [14:15] <sugoi> seanw95: it's weird it drops after some time tbh in a new world
#1438 [14:15] <sugoi> seanw95: is it a laptop?
#1439 [14:15] <seanw95> Desktop
#1440 [14:15] <sugoi> i'm thinking about laptops that use intel hd graphics
#1441 [14:15] <sugoi> ok
#1442 [14:16] <seanw95> I had a problem with my laptop but I got around that a few months back
#1443 [14:16] <Frostic> sean you on windows?
#1444 [14:16] <seanw95> Win7
#1445 [14:17] <Frostic> ??> seanw95 win/dxdiag
#1446 [14:17] <VoxelHead> seanw95: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1447 [14:17] <VoxelHead> seanw95: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1448 [14:17] <ohithere> sugoi
#1449 [14:17] <sugoi> ohithere: sup
#1450 [14:18] <ohithere> That program I made for you was pretty simple XD, check this one I'm working on right now\
#1451 [14:18] <ohithere> http://oi50.tinypic.com/2qk589w.jpg
#1452 [14:19] <seanw95> http://pastebin.ca/2291540
#1453 [14:19] <sugoi> ohithere: budding programmer, eh? :)
#1454 [14:19] * Contex|Away is now known as Contex
#1455 [14:19] <ohithere> budding?
#1456 [14:19] <ohithere> oh
#1457 [14:19] <ohithere> :P
#1458 [14:20] <ohithere> Most people don't use pascal anymore; but it's still nice to learn a programming language in general
#1459 [14:20] <ohithere> gonna take c++ next semester =p
#1460 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> ohithere: if you already know pascal, C and its cousins will be pretty quick to pick up
#1461 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> a lot of it is just transliteration
#1462 [14:20] <Lutzee> You'll enjoy how pwerful c++ is, just avoid Codeblocks >.>
#1463 [14:20] <sugoi> heh
#1464 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> BEGIN becomes {; END becomes }; and so on
#1465 [14:21] <sugoi> ohithere: i'm a full time c++ programmer, it's a great language
#1466 [14:21] <sugoi> i know pascal, but have no use for it
#1467 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> pascal was never meant to be used
#1468 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> it was meant to be a successor to BASIC as a language to teach _about_ programming
#1469 [14:22] <sugoi> yep
#1470 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> because it did not occur yet to anyone to just teach an actual language that would be useful
#1471 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> like, say, C
#1472 [14:22] <seanw95> Someone asked for my dxdiag?
#1473 [14:22] <sugoi> but imo, teach programming with real programming languages
#1474 [14:22] <sugoi> seanw95: Lutzee did, but we're all interesting
#1475 [14:22] <sugoi> interested* haha
#1476 [14:22] <sugoi> seanw95: pastebin it if you would
#1477 [14:22] <Lutzee> I didn't
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#1479 [14:22] <Lutzee> Frostic: did
#1480 [14:22] <Frostic> i asked for it. your pc should be able to run minecraft very well
#1481 [14:22] <sugoi> seanw95: Frostic yeah
#1482 [14:23] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: exactly
#1483 [14:23] <Frostic> yall look at his pc specs
#1484 [14:23] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: then my whole rant on languages made 'simple' for business majors to use to save money and not hire programmers
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#1486 [14:23] <Frostic> very nice pc
#1487 [14:23] <seanw95> Thanks ^^
#1488 [14:23] <rumpler> can some1 help me with Minecraft - Downloading Terrain Time Out Error?
#1489 [14:24] <oldtopman> Lutzee: What do you have against Code::blocks?
#1490 [14:24] <ohithere> sugoi, (or anybody who knows) are there different types of java programming?
#1491 [14:24] <sugoi> seanw95: consider getting gpuz, monitor game runtime
#1492 [14:24] <ohithere> May seem like a stupid question, but I know there's different types of java and such
#1493 [14:24] <sugoi> ohithere: nope, only crappy types
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#1495 [14:24] <ohithere> what's c++ used for, sugoi?
#1496 [14:25] <sugoi> ohithere: i joke, what do you mean about types of java?
#1497 [14:25] <sugoi> ohithere: everything
#1498 [14:25] <seanw95> Define monitor game runtime?
#1499 [14:25] <oldtopman> sugoi: Java++, Java#, etc.
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#1501 [14:25] <sugoi> drivers, graphics, general user softare, operating system kernels,
#1502 [14:26] <ohithere> Like let me think of two java games..
#1503 [14:26] <ohithere> errr..
#1504 [14:26] <oldtopman> ohithere: Planetary Annihilation and Minecraft.
#1505 [14:26] <seanw95> Runescape? xD
#1506 [14:26] <ohithere> what would be the difference persay between games such as minecraft and runescape?
#1507 [14:26] <Frostic> it seems your video card is up to date too i dont see anything that would make his framerate drop. try setting inside nvidia control pannel to allow the application to control the graphics
#1508 [14:26] <ohithere> no idea what that is oldtopman XD
#1509 [14:26] <oldtopman> ohithere: You might want to check out some gamedev IRC channels if you're interested in that sort of thing.
#1510 [14:27] <Lutzee> oldtopman: Its er... dodgy, looses its settings, doesn't want to compile stuff because of missing links when the links are there, no error hilighting..
#1511 [14:27] <ohithere> I'm considering coding some sort of java... (along with c++)
#1512 [14:27] <ohithere> I just don't know though
#1513 [14:27] <Snowmanot> Java isn't often used to make games
#1514 [14:27] <oldtopman> Lutzee: Maybe it's just on windows. I've got no arguments against it here on Linux.
#1515 [14:27] <Frostic> it should though
#1516 [14:27] * Snowmanot is now known as SNowman
#1517 [14:28] <SNowman> Why? Java has terrible performance
#1518 [14:28] <oldtopman> Even plays nicely with git :D
#1519 [14:28] * SNowman is now known as Snowman
#1520 [14:28] <sugoi> seanw95: i'm just wondering what is bottlenecked. i have a laptop runs mc better and has less power. so i would want to check everything going on. gpu utilization, cpu and ram, etc. gpuz will help you see y our gpu utilization. now you said your harddrive was thrashing, win7 has a resource monitor which should tell you what apps are using the hdd the most. consider stoping all other apps and run mc on its own
#1521 [14:29] <Lutzee> oldtopman: I'm in the habbit of using eclipse for everything because it is what i know, when we move away from the stupid library my lecturer made i'll probably use VS
#1522 [14:29] <ohithere> is anybody here familiar with what an rsps is?
#1523 [14:30] <Frostic> java makes a great game. look at minecraft for example :P
#1524 [14:30] <Lutzee> Frostic: Great does not equal optimised
#1525 [14:30] * sugoi suggests -java, -gamedev, -runescape ... less noise
#1525 [14:30] <oldtopman> Lutzee: If there's one thing I can agree on with IDEs, it's that every one has it's own quirks. To each his own is very appropiate.
#1526 [14:30] <ohithere> hmm sugoi?
#1527 [14:30] <Frostic> i never said it makes optimized games. i said great games
#1528 [14:31] <Frostic> you saying minecraft sucks?
#1529 [14:31] <sugoi> ohithere: this is #minecrafthelp, let's reduce the noise/talk of off topic perhaps
#1530 [14:31] <Frostic> its not a great game?
#1531 [14:31] <ohithere> Oh I know you meant that
#1532 [14:31] <sugoi> Frostic: it is, obviously
#1533 [14:31] <oldtopman> Frostic: The language does not make the game.
#1534 [14:31] <ohithere> I meant what were u saying about -java, gamedev, rs?
#1535 [14:31] <Lutzee> sugoi: until someone comes asking for help we should be fine
#1536 [14:31] <Frostic> i know oldtopman thats my point
#1537 [14:31] <sugoi> meh
#1538 [14:31] * sugoi goes back to working, mostly
#1538 [14:32] <oldtopman> sugoi: I didn't think we had any outstanding help requests, did we?
#1539 [14:32] <seanw95> After barely 3 mins of gameplay fps = 4-12...Memory used in GPU-Z Just keeps increasing...till 249MB then it's literally unplayable
#1540 [14:32] <oldtopman> seanw95: Do you have any mods installed?
#1541 [14:32] <ohithere> noo sugoi! =[
#1542 [14:32] <seanw95> Vanilla aprt from Optifine
#1543 [14:32] <Snowman> Minecraft has terrible performance though, could be so much better in C++
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#1545 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> that goes without saying
#1546 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> other than that you said it
#1547 [14:33] <Snowman> And if it was coded a lot better
#1548 [14:33] <Snowman> Notch is a terrible programmer :P
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#1551 [14:34] <Frostic> Snowman what games have you made? if you are better lets see it?
#1552 [14:34] <ohithere> does anybody know what sugoi was talking about
#1553 [14:34] <ohithere> ?
#1554 [14:34] <oldtopman> seanw95: I'd recommend updating your graphics drivers, and trying a clean install of minecraft. Check for java updates too. If all else fails, your graphics card may just be too old to run minecraft.
#1555 [14:34] <Snowman> I am not saying I am better
#1556 [14:34] <Snowman> I am saying for a game of this caliber
#1557 [14:34] <Snowman> It has terrible code
#1558 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> Frostic: it does not take an expert author to recognize a bad book.
#1559 [14:35] <ohithere> dopeghoti
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#1561 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> ohithere: Oh, hi there!
#1562 [14:35] <ohithere> =p, right before sugoi left he said something like
#1563 [14:35] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: That joke wasn't half bad!
#1564 [14:35] <oldtopman> It was all bad!
#1565 [14:35] <ohithere> -java, -gamedev, runescape
#1566 [14:35] <Frostic> if you cant make a better game you have no right to put down anothers work. if you think you can do better id like to see it.
#1567 [14:35] <ohithere> could u clarify?
#1568 [14:35] <seanw95> I can run Skyrim with mods at my native resolution yet my GFX card is "too old" for minecraft..? I don't mean to be rude but please don't talk crap to me sir...& I've tried a fresh install
#1569 [14:36] <oldtopman> Frostic: Actually, you can do that. Also, "better" is extremely subjective.
#1570 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> Frostic: there is a _vast_ semantic difference between "that's a crappy thing" and "I could make a better thing than that".
#1571 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> Frostic: furthermore, asserting that one needs expertise in order to have an opinion on something is laughable on its face.
#1572 [14:36] <oldtopman> ??> seanw95 retro
#1573 [14:36] <VoxelHead> seanw95: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#1574 [14:36] <VoxelHead> seanw95: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
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#1576 [14:37] <oldtopman> seanw95: I would recommend updating your grapics card driver, and checking for java updates.
#1577 [14:37] <sugoi> seanw95: honestly, it is not a fair comparison
#1578 [14:37] <seanw95> I know this & bad example I know
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#1580 [14:37] <sugoi> seanw95: i'm a graphics programmer, i know my crap
#1581 [14:38] <seanw95> The games are coded totally differently especially the graphics I understand that...but I can't understand why it runs fine on my laptop which is by all means less effective
#1582 [14:38] <sugoi> on a side, but related, note: minecraft should use mirrors! :) hehe
#1583 [14:38] <seanw95> However my computer it just gives up
#1584 [14:39] <Snowman> Is your laptop less cores?
#1585 [14:39] <seanw95> Dual
#1586 [14:39] <seanw95> desktop is 6
#1587 [14:39] <Snowman> Yeah, Minecraft isn' t that good in multithreading
#1588 [14:39] <sugoi> seanw95: it takes considerable gpu power
#1589 [14:39] <sugoi> seanw95: is your laptop gpu better?
#1590 [14:39] <seanw95> Nope
#1591 [14:39] <seanw95> laptop GPU underperforms on benchmarks
#1592 [14:39] <seanw95> less clock rate
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#1594 [14:40] <seanw95> memory type is older
#1595 [14:40] <sugoi> seanw95: what did you say about your gpuz result?
#1596 [14:40] <seanw95> Errm 2 secs
#1597 [14:40] <Frostic> i guess im the only one that looked at his dxdiag... his gup drivers are up to date. and his pc is very nice.
#1598 [14:40] <seanw95> <seanw95> After barely 3 mins of gameplay fps = 4-12...Memory used in GPU-Z Just keeps increasing...till 249MB then it's literally unplayable
#1599 [14:41] <sugoi> yeah, my grep wasn't finding it bc all caps :) derp
#1600 [14:41] <Frostic> gpu*
#1601 [14:41] <seanw95> Which is the dedicated memory of my GPU...
#1602 [14:41] <sugoi> 250 is tiny, i wonder if that's signifcant
#1603 [14:41] <sugoi> Frostic: i gave it a glance
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#1605 [14:42] <seanw95> My laptop has less than half and is manufacturer under clocked to reduce heat?
#1606 [14:43] <sugoi> seanw95: what about the gpu processing load before and then during your fps drop?
#1607 [14:43] <seanw95> Steadily increases
#1608 [14:43] <seanw95> after it gets above 150MB my FPS drop to sub 50
#1609 [14:43] <seanw95> which isn't noticeable but after that the processing load shoots up in a matter of seconds
#1610 [14:43] <sugoi> um really? it normally would increase and then plateau
#1611 [14:44] <seanw95> It does when it hits max load
#1612 [14:44] <sugoi> shoots up to a plateeau? 100%?
#1613 [14:44] <seanw95> I'll link you to my laptops DXdiag so you can compare if that helps?
#1614 [14:44] <Frostic> seanw95 does it still do it if you install a freash un modded minecraft?
#1615 [14:44] <sugoi> i have your dxdiag
#1616 [14:45] <seanw95> for my desktop yes
#1617 [14:45] <seanw95> it runs fine on my less powerfull laptop
#1618 [14:45] <seanw95> and yeah it does frostic
#1619 [14:45] <Frostic> we dont need the laptop
#1620 [14:45] <Frostic> can you try something for me?
#1621 [14:45] <seanw95> Sure thing
#1622 [14:46] <Frostic> http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1623 [14:46] <Frostic> follow these instructions
#1624 [14:47] <Frostic> see if this helps maybe it will help maybe it wont but we can try.
#1625 [14:47] <sugoi> max 256m?
#1626 [14:47] <sugoi> ok
#1627 [14:48] <Frostic> hey i didnt make the paste. it was DiskDaemon that gave me the link. it helps us in 2 ways. it gives a good crashreport if he crashes. and makes it launch a different way
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#1629 [14:49] <Frostic> maybe the way its being launched is causing the error. i dont know im just trying to find a fix :(
#1630 [14:50] <sugoi> i didn't smack it down :)
#1631 [14:50] <sugoi> i only said 'ok'
#1632 [14:50] <Frostic> we can have him increase the 256m too :D
#1633 [14:51] <Frostic> no i just dont know if im right. it was not pointed at you
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#1636 [14:52] <seanw95> Could not findf or load maion class net.minecraft.launcherframe
#1637 [14:52] <seanw95> Major typo's -_-
#1638 [14:53] <Frostic> did you put the 2 files in the same folder?
#1639 [14:53] <seanw95> YEah
#1640 [14:54] <seanw95> I'll delete and re-DL the jar file
#1641 [14:56] <Frostic> edit the .bat file and make sure there is 2 lines and they read
#1642 [14:56] <Frostic> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1643 [14:56] <Frostic> pause
#1644 [14:57] <Frostic> there is another way to run it too but i forget it :/
#1645 [14:58] <seanw95> Doesn't seem to be working for me
#1646 [14:59] <seanw95> The bat file is correctbtw
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#1648 [14:59] <Frostic> it should work :/
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#1650 [15:00] <sugoi> seanw95: did it ever work well on your desktop?
#1651 [15:00] <seanw95> Yeah It worked perfectly for the past month or so
#1652 [15:00] <sugoi> !
#1653 [15:00] <sugoi> well there is something
#1654 [15:00] <sugoi> ok, what changed?!
#1655 [15:00] <seanw95> I had to format 2 weeks ago but it worked fine up until last week randomly
#1656 [15:01] <sugoi> probably not truly random :)
#1657 [15:01] <sugoi> think, help us help you
#1658 [15:01] <seanw95> You know what I mean
#1659 [15:01] <seanw95> :P
#1660 [15:01] <seanw95> Errrm
#1661 [15:01] <Frostic> oooo
#1662 [15:01] <sugoi> was there an update? did you stop/start using some mod/texture pack
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#1664 [15:01] <seanw95> I appleid a hotfix for W7 becaust it wasn't utilising all six cores properly
#1665 [15:01] <sugoi> any change in hardware? any new software installed (e.g. huge bloated anti-virus)
#1666 [15:01] <seanw95> Without optifine it's not even playable :/
#1667 [15:02] <seanw95> Hardware no change, software...No Security suite & the hotfix thats it
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#1669 [15:03] <p3lim> Keep getting this error on our server lately (like once every hour or so), anyone got a clue? http://pastebin.com/FMHDnPUM
#1670 [15:03] <Frostic> can you please goto nvidia and download the drivers for your card?. you let microsoft install them. im sure they are not fully installed now. microsoft never gets them right
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#1672 [15:03] <Frostic> seanw95^^
#1673 [15:04] <seanw95> I used the drivers from the disc then updated them from nvidias website
#1674 [15:04] <Frostic> ok good
#1675 [15:04] <Frostic> never let microsoft do it lol
#1676 [15:04] <seanw95> I know!
#1677 [15:04] <Frostic> ok im out of ideas
#1678 [15:04] <seanw95> I had a problem on windows xp with their "sound card drivers"
#1679 [15:04] <seanw95> nightmate
#1680 [15:04] <seanw95> Well
#1681 [15:05] <seanw95> Thanks anyway :)
#1682 [15:05] <seanw95> I'll stick to my laptop & xbox for now
#1683 [15:05] <sugoi> p3lim: i'd ask on a forge channel - unless you can repro this with a 1.4.2 vaanilla server and vanilla world
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#1686 [15:06] <CrusSchool> #minecraftforge , p3lim
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#1690 [15:08] <weallhaveourdays> so when i try to open the minecraft jar file it gives me an error message saying that it cant find the main class "net.minecraft.client.minecraft" can anyone help me?
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#1692 [15:09] <p3lim> I dont play vanilla much any more, and if I do, I dont use a dedicated server. Thanks anyways
#1693 [15:09] <clarjon1> p3lim: You could just download the server exe, run it, and connect to it on localhost
#1694 [15:09] <clarjon1> p3lim: takes, what, 5, 10 minutes?
#1695 [15:10] <p3lim> And then play enough to just hope to get the same error to occur? No thank you
#1696 [15:11] <p3lim> Especially if its forge related, no point even running vanilla for it
#1697 [15:11] <Frostic> ?? mods
#1698 [15:11] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1699 [15:11] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1700 [15:12] <p3lim> I already got that, thank you
#1701 [15:12] <p3lim> I already got that, thank you
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#1703 [15:13] <Frostic> weallhaveourdays id help you but i dont know anything about linux
#1704 [15:13] <weallhaveourdays> alright thanks
#1705 [15:13] <Frostic> but
#1706 [15:14] <Frostic> wait someone else may know
#1707 [15:14] <Frostic> try downloading the jar from here https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1708 [15:15] <Hedge> weallhaveourdays, How are you running the jar file?
#1709 [15:15] <Frostic> Hedge to the rescue
#1710 [15:15] <Frostic> ty
#1711 [15:16] <weallhaveourdays> haha im having a mental block. what do you mean?
#1712 [15:17] <Frostic> what command you are using to run the jar?
#1713 [15:17] <Hedge> Are you running it from the command line? If so then what command you're using?
#1714 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> And from which directory?
#1715 [15:17] <Frostic> ^^
#1716 [15:17] <Hedge> Yeah, that too
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#1718 [15:18] <Seldion> hello
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#1720 [15:18] <Frostic> i hope you are not just clicking the jar hehe
#1721 [15:18] <sugoi> Seldion: howdy
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#1723 [15:18] <Seldion> I need a little help, i am trying to chat in the other chat about MC and it says i need to register my name, but doesn't say how, can some help me?
#1724 [15:19] <Seldion> someone*
#1725 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv REGISTER password email
#1726 [15:19] <Yobroo1> commands
#1727 [15:19] <Seldion> Thank you kindly
#1728 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> You'll then get an email from espernet with a verification code to enter
#1729 [15:19] <Yobroo1> comannds
#1730 [15:19] <Frostic> Seldion do that in status windo
#1731 [15:19] <Frostic> dont do it here
#1732 [15:19] * GreyVulpine nods
#1732 [15:19] <Yobroo1> commands
#1733 [15:19] <Hedge> weallhaveourdays, Did you notice our questions?
#1734 [15:19] <Seldion> Status window?
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#1736 [15:20] <Frostic> at the top see where it says espernet? click that tab then type it
#1737 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> Seldion - In the network's status window, not this channel. It's a safety precaution, in case you enter it as a chat, instead of a command
#1738 [15:20] <Seldion> Ermm i feel stupid now, i just saw the login button and tried to see if i had already registerd.... i didi.
#1739 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> So that we don't see your email, nor your password
#1740 [15:21] <sugoi> ./msg nickserv register 442p24.!@password derp@email.com
#1741 [15:21] <Seldion> Thank you tho for your help, maybe i should get some sleep now.
#1742 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, you aren't registered in espernet
#1743 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> The nickname Seldion isn't registered here.
#1744 [15:21] <weallhaveourdays> yea i saw them, im looking around im prety sure i figured out what was going wrong. ill get back if i need any further help. thanks
#1745 [15:21] <Seldion> I'm not?
#1746 [15:21] <Seldion> so a account is different from regisitering?
#1747 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Are you asking how to register here, or at the minecraft.net website?
#1748 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> This chat channel is not tied into the account system from mojang.
#1749 [15:22] <Seldion> I just want to talk in the other IRC so i can see if anyone knows of any seeds that i am looking for
#1750 [15:22] <sugoi> :)
#1751 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Ah, right then. You'll need to register your nickname to talk in #minecraft
#1752 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> You can do that with: /msg nickserv REGISTER password email
#1753 [15:22] <Seldion> Ah okay, Right, so let me read up what you was saying.
#1754 [15:23] <Frostic> Seldion you want seeds for minecraft?
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#1756 [15:23] <Frostic> http://www.minecraftseeds.info/ <----- best list ever. even has screenshots
#1757 [15:23] <Seldion> Well i'm looking for a seed that has a moutain surounded by flats or lower terran.
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#1759 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> A seed is just a world generation starting point. It has no real distinguishing features apart from the rest. If you don't like a particular starting area, you can just walk a few hundred meters in one direction.
#1760 [15:25] <Frostic> 41327148 is my fave seed
#1761 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> As for seed discussion, you may have some luck in the forums: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/50-seeds/
#1762 [15:26] <Frostic> is islands and a main big island in the center
#1763 [15:26] <Seldion> Then what is the point of a seed? :P to my understanding it generates the same land every time with that seed.
#1764 [15:29] <Seldion> I'm just trying to find one that i don't have to do a ton of landscaping in order to get it the way i want.
#1765 [15:29] <Hedge> Yes, same seed creates the same world every time. However there aren't seeds that make a hilly world or a snowy world whatsoever. Every world has all the biomes
#1766 [15:29] <Frostic> ^^
#1767 [15:30] <Seldion> Yes i understand that, Thats not what i was asking, I was just asking for a Seed that starts you near or has a bio like such.
#1768 [15:30] <Frostic> Seldion have you looked into setting up a bucket server and using voxelsniper to build your own custom map
#1769 [15:30] <Frostic> ?
#1770 [15:31] <Frostic> voxelsniper has brush tools for making mountains
#1771 [15:31] <Seldion> I personally would like it to be randomly generated but if that is the only way i will get what i want so be it.
#1772 [15:31] <sugoi> Seldion: or just start server, join, judge - if you like, good - else, quit, stop, rm -r world/, rinse+repeate
#1773 [15:31] <Frostic> ^^
#1774 [15:31] <Seldion> And thanks again for the help i got my Name registered
#1775 [15:32] <Seldion> I would also have to install the mods onto the server too right?
#1776 [15:32] <sugoi> yes, you'd want your server to a state with mods that you want
#1777 [15:33] <sugoi> THEN start, test, quit and remove (only the world folder), and redo
#1778 [15:33] <Frostic> voxelsniper plugin for bukkit yes and or worldedit. you can also get worldedit for singlplayer
#1779 [15:33] <Seldion> Barely got them working in single player Y-Y
#1780 [15:33] <Seldion> Hmmm i've herd of world edit, I will give that a try, Thanks.
#1781 [15:33] <Frostic> or you can use mcedit or many other editors so you dont need a server
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#1784 [15:34] <sugoi> Frostic: it is a good suggestion, but for someone like me...ZERO artistic ability, i only use random seeds to get the look i like
#1785 [15:34] <sugoi> Seldion: i didn't know you were trying to only play ssp
#1786 [15:34] <sugoi> Seldion: you can do the same thing
#1787 [15:34] <Frostic> yes but you can gernerate a world then add the mountain by hand tyhat he wants :D
#1788 [15:34] <sugoi> Seldion: just delete the world if you dont like it
#1789 [15:34] <Seldion> I;ve been randomly generating all day, so far nothing.
#1790 [15:35] <sugoi> Frostic: i'm sure my mountain would look more like a bell curved mound of dirt
#1791 [15:35] <Seldion> Well i guess for what i am wanting to do, i could just build the building and add the dirt under it.
#1792 [15:35] <Frostic> not if you use voxelsniper you can set many brush types and shapes too
#1793 [15:35] * sugoi is bored thinking of it
#1793 [15:36] <Frostic> lol
#1794 [15:36] <sugoi> again, good idea, for others
#1795 [15:36] <Frostic> its just a suggestion
#1796 [15:36] <Seldion> Just trying to build a Castle that is in the center of a town like area, Where it has its own walls and the other builds has its own as well, sorta like a cathedral.
#1797 [15:37] <Seldion> And elevated in the air too.
#1798 [15:37] <Frostic> anyways look at the page i posted. it shows you what the seeds make. good luck
#1799 [15:37] <Seldion> Thank you.
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#1820 [16:51] <carson72903> it lags me out of minecraft and puts up message internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception: read timed out anyone have a clue
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#1822 [16:55] <carson72903> anybody
#1823 [16:56] <TaZeTemper> do you know how to find your .minecraft or remake it if you cnt find it
#1824 [16:57] <mattym> What kind of PC are you on?
#1825 [16:57] <TaZeTemper> hp pavilion
#1826 [16:57] <carson72903> lapto
#1827 [16:57] <mattym> ok so windows
#1828 [16:57] <TaZeTemper> yes
#1829 [16:57] * Disori is now known as Disori|off
#1830 [16:57] <mattym> if you go to any folder and type in the top exactly this %APPDATA%
#1831 [16:58] <TaZeTemper> k
#1832 [16:58] <mattym> there should be a .minecrat folder
#1833 [16:58] <mattym> if its not there, then just running the minecraft launcher should remake it
#1834 [16:58] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/.minecraft
#1835 [16:58] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
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#1837 [16:59] <mattym> Im sorry, run the laucher, and login to redownload it
#1838 [16:59] <TaZeTemper> i have tried that but it dident work
#1839 [17:00] <mattym> does the game work?
#1840 [17:00] <TaZeTemper> yes
#1841 [17:00] <mattym> is this your computer or a family computer?
#1842 [17:00] <mattym> in other words, is your accound on the computer limited
#1843 [17:00] <TaZeTemper> no
#1844 [17:01] <DiskDaemon> If you need to remake it, the reinstall instructions are as follows
#1845 [17:02] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/reinst
#1846 [17:02] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1847 [17:02] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1849 [17:02] <mattym> i think his problem is that he cant even see the .minecraft folder
#1850 [17:03] <TaZeTemper> yes
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#1852 [17:03] <mattym> what do you see in your %APPDATA%
#1853 [17:03] <TaZeTemper> found it thanks!!(:
#1854 [17:04] <mattym> yey
#1855 [17:04] <mattym> carson72903 What was your problem?
#1856 [17:04] <carson72903> it exits me from mincraft and puts up this message internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception: read timed out can anyone help
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#1858 [17:04] <mattym> what exits you?
#1859 [17:05] <carson72903> im playing minecraft and it takes me out of my game and puts up that message
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#1861 [17:05] <mattym> single player?
#1862 [17:05] <carson72903> multi
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#1864 [17:05] <mattym> that may be an error from the server
#1865 [17:06] <MrTubs95> minecraft crashed... need the file thing from pastebin?
#1866 [17:06] <mattym> socket's are internet protocol stuff, this error means something is wrong between you and the server
#1867 [17:06] <carson72903> any way to fix something on my ned
#1868 [17:06] <carson72903> end'
#1869 [17:06] <carson72903> could it be my connection
#1870 [17:06] <mattym> are you using vanilla minecraft ona vanilla server?
#1871 [17:07] <carson72903> tekkit
#1872 [17:07] <carson72903> i think
#1873 [17:07] <carson72903> techninc
#1874 [17:07] <mattym> do you have teckit properly configured?
#1875 [17:07] <carson72903> i dont know
#1876 [17:07] <carson72903> just got it a few days ago n my brother set it up
#1877 [17:08] <mattym> you may want to make sure you are set up to use the tekkit pack acording to the instructions of the server you are trying to enter
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#1880 [17:08] <bob_> i need help
#1881 [17:08] <mattym> anything thats off between you and the server will mess stuff up
#1882 [17:09] <bob_> i need help
#1883 [17:09] <carson72903> ok ty
#1884 [17:09] <mattym> bob_ you need to be more specific
#1885 [17:09] <bob_> oh uh
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#1887 [17:09] <bob_> its not working
#1888 [17:10] <bob_> the google thing
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#1890 [17:10] <MrTubs95> matty since when are you a helper here?
#1891 [17:10] <mattym> lol, i help when im bored
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#1893 [17:10] <MrTubs95> when was the last time you seen a real helper?
#1894 [17:11] <a1b2c3> does mojang still use getsatisfaction for minecraft?
#1895 [17:11] <mattym> i dunno
#1896 [17:11] <a1b2c3> thats not helpful
#1897 [17:11] <mattym> they have the mojira bug tracker now, but
#1898 [17:11] <a1b2c3> yeah i know
#1899 [17:12] <mattym> thats mostly for bugs, if there are other issues im not sure what the accepted medium is now
#1900 [17:12] <a1b2c3> its not for issues its where you submit ideas
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#1902 [17:12] <a1b2c3> @Scott: is minecraft no longer using getsatisfaction?
#1903 [17:13] <Scott> Don't randomly highlight people.
#1904 [17:13] <MrTubs95> when was the last time you seen a real helper?
#1905 [17:13] <a1b2c3> ??
#1906 [17:13] <a1b2c3> oh sorry
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#1908 [17:14] <a1b2c3> where can i submit ideas for minecraft???????????????????????????????
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#1910 [17:14] <MrTubs95> my minecraft crashed... do i need to post the pastebin thing
#1911 [17:15] <a1b2c3> Scott
#1912 [17:15] <a1b2c3> will u answer my question plz
#1913 [17:15] <mattym> What kind of crash?
#1914 [17:15] <mattym> if you post it ill take a quick look
#1915 [17:15] <MrTubs95> im gonna wait on a real helper, not trying to be a mean but... you know
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#1918 [17:16] <mattym> you do realize that a "real helper" is loaded term
#1919 [17:16] <MrTubs95> ok
#1920 [17:16] <mattym> its an irc channel, users help each other
#1921 [17:17] <a1b2c3> ohhhh
#1922 [17:17] <a1b2c3> ok
#1923 [17:17] <a1b2c3> lol
#1924 [17:17] <a1b2c3> can i help somebody
#1925 [17:17] <MrTubs95> ok
#1926 [17:17] <a1b2c3> can i help MrTubs95
#1927 [17:17] * VoxelHead , for example is completely artificial and generally perceived to be helpful.
#1927 [17:17] <MrTubs95> http://pastebin.com/Ea01ZveT
#1928 [17:18] <NinjaKirby> Out of nowhere, Voxelhead
#1929 [17:18] <NinjaKirby> Out of nowhere, Voxelhead
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#1931 [17:19] <a1b2c3> MrTubs95 sere u running any plugins/mods on ur launcher?
#1932 [17:19] <a1b2c3> were
#1933 [17:19] <MrTubs95> optifine, minimap
#1934 [17:19] <a1b2c3> that doesnt look like a normal crash
#1935 [17:19] <a1b2c3> oh, are there any config options, you may need to change something in there
#1936 [17:19] <mattym> yeah, a better option would be to ask for help in those mods channels
#1937 [17:20] <a1b2c3> where are those?
#1938 [17:20] <MrTubs95> what do you mean?
#1939 [17:20] <mattym> not sure if those maps have any, im just saying that
#1940 [17:20] <a1b2c3> can u change settings on the mods?
#1941 [17:20] <mattym> this is a help channel for vanilla minecraft
#1942 [17:20] <a1b2c3> yes
#1943 [17:20] <mattym> and that error seems to be specific to a mod
#1944 [17:20] <a1b2c3> yeah
#1945 [17:21] <MrTubs95> ya... you can change settings
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#1947 [17:21] <mattym> so if you ask on that mods forum link, you may get more help from people who had the same issue
#1948 [17:21] <a1b2c3> oh, well try changing some things that seem like they might cause a crash. Also the two mods might not work together... they may crash eachother
#1949 [17:22] <MrTubs95> ive been using them together for about a year... first crash
#1950 [17:22] <a1b2c3> did this happen a while into the game? or right as you opened it
#1951 [17:22] <MrTubs95> about 30 mins into it
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#1953 [17:23] <a1b2c3> oh, try looking it up on google then, i odnt think anybody can help u here
#1954 [17:23] <a1b2c3> dont
#1955 [17:23] <MrTubs95> ok?
#1956 [17:23] <a1b2c3> yeah... or the mods official website
#1957 [17:24] <mattym> im checking one last thing, wait a second
#1958 [17:24] <a1b2c3> ok
#1959 [17:24] <MrTubs95> tell it to me maybe
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#1962 [17:25] <Seldion> Hello again, I need a bit more help.... tho not sure if this is where to ask....
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#1965 [17:26] <MrTubs95> can anybody help me?
#1966 [17:27] <Seldion> I can try if you like.
#1967 [17:28] <sugoi> looks like auth is good again... ?
#1968 [17:28] <sugoi> agree?
#1969 [17:28] <sugoi> my server is back up at least
#1970 [17:28] <Seldion> Oh wait that was a rule wasn't it? x.x
#1971 [17:28] <sugoi> rule?
#1972 [17:28] <MrTubs95> http://pastebin.com/Ea01ZveT
#1973 [17:28] <Seldion> not to ask to ask or wait to be helped
#1974 [17:28] <sugoi> MrTubs95: hi
#1975 [17:28] <sugoi> oh
#1976 [17:28] <MrTubs95> hey
#1977 [17:29] <sugoi> AManWithAnAxe :)
#1978 [17:29] <sugoi> good name
#1979 [17:29] <Seldion> Anyways, i found a seed i like, tho its ver 1.0 and i was wondering if there was a way to use it with newer ver, most of the other 1.0 seeds work but this one doesn't.
#1980 [17:29] <sugoi> Seldion: well, honestly, all seeds are going to change as new chunks are generated
#1981 [17:29] <MrTubs95> haha thanks :)
#1982 [17:30] <Seldion> Yes i understand that, i was just wondering if there was a way to use it.
#1983 [17:31] <sugoi> Seldion: sure, generate the world in a 1.0 server, then copy the world file, then start up the newer server
#1984 [17:31] <sugoi> i believe it converts...maybe that isn't supported across such a chasm
#1985 [17:31] <sugoi> MrTubs95: well my guess is that you have forge server? this is probably caused by a mod in forge?
#1986 [17:31] <MrTubs95> forge?
#1987 [17:31] <MrTubs95> idk what that is
#1988 [17:32] <Seldion> Darn, No other way yeah?
#1989 [17:32] <sugoi> MrTubs95: where did you download the server jar?
#1990 [17:32] <sugoi> Seldion: what's wrong with that way?
#1991 [17:32] <MrTubs95> the server i have? minecraft.net
#1992 [17:32] <sugoi> and you aren't added any plugins/mod to it?
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#1994 [17:33] <MrTubs95> no
#1995 [17:33] <Seldion> Well, i have no clue how to back date MC also i am useing a few mods so not sure how that would work with the old map.
#1996 [17:34] <sugoi> MrTubs95: interesting, i found another post with the same stack: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1580954-145unmodded-server-crash-for-other-people/
#1997 [17:35] <MrTubs95> nice research!
#1998 [17:35] <sugoi> he's on java 1.6, and you're on 1.7
#1999 [17:35] <sugoi> so it's not that
#2000 [17:36] <MrTubs95> smart man you are sugoi
#2001 [17:36] <sugoi> haha
#2002 [17:36] <sugoi> well thanks
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#2004 [17:37] <sugoi> is it when animals breed?
#2005 [17:37] <MrTubs95> the crash? no
#2006 [17:38] <Seldion> Haha
#2007 [17:38] <Seldion> They be popin them out so fast it crashes :P
#2008 [17:38] <MrTubs95> that would be some rough breeding
#2009 [17:39] <sugoi> Seldion: :) saw a similar stack, but on bukkit
#2010 [17:39] <Seldion> Never seen a krogen then eh?
#2011 [17:39] <sugoi> guy could repro it when animals breed
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#2013 [17:39] <sugoi> MrTubs95: can you repro it?
#2014 [17:39] <sugoi> can you isolate the bug area at all?
#2015 [17:39] <sugoi> e.g. when you visit a certain chunk/when you preform a certain action
#2016 [17:39] <MrTubs95> what are you asking me really?
#2017 [17:40] <MrTubs95> nope, just random
#2018 [17:40] <Seldion> Ah ha! found a seed i can work with!!!! sugoi your great :P
#2019 [17:40] <sugoi> cool cool
#2020 [17:40] <Seldion> Well i think it was you that send me that seed list.
#2021 [17:40] <sugoi> Seldion: i'll take credit for it, sure :)
#2022 [17:40] <Seldion> Haha, don't get a big head sugoi.
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#2025 [17:41] <sugoi> i'm a c++ developer, too late
#2026 [17:42] <Rikairchy> D:
#2027 [17:42] <sugoi> MrTubs95: but it's while you are playing?
#2028 [17:42] <Rikairchy> real people use C++
#2029 [17:42] <MrTubs95> yup
#2030 [17:42] <sugoi> haha
#2031 [17:42] <Rikairchy> on purpose?
#2032 [17:42] <Seldion> Yeah, i told some people i knew a little C coding and they laughed saying it wasn't real coding, i laughed harder.
#2033 [17:42] <sugoi> Rikairchy: no, only the great minds use c++
#2034 [17:42] <sugoi> Rikairchy: the rest just make garbage and label it c++ :)
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#2036 [17:43] <sugoi> Seldion: what did they consider real?
#2037 [17:43] <sugoi> html?
#2038 [17:43] <sugoi> flash?
#2039 [17:43] <NinjaKirby> Fukyea, actionscript
#2040 [17:43] <Seldion> No clue, i didn't stay around long enough, kinda fell over in my chair and pulled my ether cable out.
#2041 [17:43] <sugoi> MrTubs95: does it happen to others on your sever?
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#2043 [17:43] <sugoi> Seldion: nice :)
#2044 [17:44] <MrTubs95> no... my server has never crashed... just my singleplayer, thats what im here about
#2045 [17:44] <kal7_7> my accout was hacked what do i do
#2046 [17:44] <sugoi> tho, c, to be honest, isn't really that cool :) c++ is much cooler
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#2048 [17:44] <kal7_7> my accout was hacked what do i do
#2049 [17:44] <Seldion> What are you doing at the time of the crashes MrTubs95?
#2050 [17:44] <MrTubs95> anything, nothing in particular
#2051 [17:45] <sugoi> kal7_7: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#2052 [17:45] <kal7_7> can some one help me
#2053 [17:45] <MrTubs95> exploring/loading new chunks, caving, building, anything
#2054 [17:45] <sugoi> MrTubs95: every world, only one world?
#2055 [17:45] <Seldion> Yeah but if you can tell me what you where doing at the sake moment we might be able to narrow it own.
#2056 [17:46] <MrTubs95> every world, but i mainly get on others, get crashes on those to
#2057 [17:46] <MrTubs95> at the sake moment i was climbing a hill? lol hope that helps!
#2058 [17:46] <sugoi> boy, i don't know
#2059 [17:46] <sugoi> try a force update
#2060 [17:46] <Seldion> Crash log?
#2061 [17:46] <sugoi> "sake moment" what is that .. ?
#2062 [17:46] <sugoi> Seldion: he gave it
#2063 [17:46] <MrTubs95> had been playing for about 30 mins when it crashed
#2064 [17:46] <sugoi> it hit an exception i haven't seen, but found online from others, but no one had a solution
#2065 [17:46] <MrTubs95> ya i have never heard sake moment
#2066 [17:46] <kal7_7> can some one help me plzzz
#2067 [17:47] <sugoi> kal7_7: i did
#2068 [17:47] <Seldion> Could it be more of a hardware problem... or like processor... not enough ram?
#2069 [17:47] <kal7_7> ?
#2070 [17:47] <Rikairchy> kal7_7:
#2071 [17:47] <kal7_7> ? how
#2072 [17:47] <sugoi> Seldion: VERY unlikely
#2073 [17:47] <kal7_7> ye
#2074 [17:47] <sugoi> kal7_7: kal7_7> can some one help me
#2075 [17:47] <Rikairchy> usually, repeating a question doesn't get it answered quicker
#2076 [17:47] <sugoi> derp
#2077 [17:47] <sugoi> crap, stupid clipboard
#2078 [17:47] <sugoi> kal7_7: yeah, chil
#2079 [17:47] <kal7_7> lol
#2080 [17:47] <Rikairchy> it actually annoys those
#2081 [17:47] <sugoi> kal7_7: i gave you a link up above
#2082 [17:47] <Rikairchy> that answer
#2083 [17:47] <Seldion> WEll i say that because i use to have frequent crashes because i only had 200mb of ram to java
#2084 [17:47] <MrTubs95> soooo, what about my crashing haha
#2085 [17:47] <Rikairchy> your best bet is to go contact mojang
#2086 [17:47] <sugoi> kal7_7: i'll get it a 2nd time, sec
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#2088 [17:47] <Rikairchy> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#2089 [17:47] <sugoi> kal7_7: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#2090 [17:48] <Rikairchy> ninja'd
#2091 [17:48] * sugoi slaps Rikairchy
#2091 [17:48] * Rikairchy mounts sugoi
#2091 [17:48] <sugoi> whatever, that was my 2nd paste
#2092 [17:48] <Seldion> ofcourse there is something at the top of this chat that has a link that is for account issues yes?
#2093 [17:48] <sugoi> dude ...
#2094 [17:48] <kal7_7> ok im looking
#2095 [17:48] <Rikairchy> i know :P
#2096 [17:48] <MrTubs95> contact mojang.... thats hours of time :(
#2097 [17:48] <Seldion> Good things come to them that wait :P
#2098 [17:48] <sugoi> MrTubs95: if his account was really hacked, it's the best option
#2099 [17:48] <sugoi> we don't have access to accounts here
#2100 [17:48] <Rikairchy> its his only option, really
#2101 [17:49] <kal7_7> sugoi
#2102 [17:49] <MrTubs95> wait... when did hacking come in to play
#2103 [17:49] <sugoi> kal7_7
#2104 [17:49] <Rikairchy> MrTubs95:
#2105 [17:49] <kal7_7> do you have skype
#2106 [17:49] <Rikairchy> the link was not in referance to you
#2107 [17:49] <sugoi> MrTubs95: from day one of computers :)
#2108 [17:49] <Rikairchy> actually
#2109 [17:49] <Seldion> Lolz
#2110 [17:49] <sugoi> kal7_7: you can pm me if you have more questions/concerns
#2111 [17:49] <Rikairchy> it was before computers
#2112 [17:49] <Rikairchy> it was in the NES days
#2113 [17:49] <Rikairchy> (before mainstream computers)
#2114 [17:49] <sugoi> Rikairchy: specifically computer hacking i was assuming
#2115 [17:49] <sugoi> what
#2116 [17:49] <Seldion> NES is just a toned down ver of a puter :P
#2117 [17:49] <Rikairchy> ahh
#2118 [17:49] <sugoi> nes was before computers?!
#2119 [17:50] <kal7_7> i have been hacked and need help
#2120 [17:50] <Rikairchy> kal7_7:
#2121 [17:50] <kal7_7> what
#2122 [17:50] <Rikairchy> if you have been hacked and need help, see the link both sugoi and I provided
#2123 [17:50] <sugoi> kal7_7: did you go to the link i gave you
#2124 [17:50] <Seldion> and no actually computers date back to rome times
#2125 [17:50] <MrTubs95> i have been playing on a second account i recently bought, would that have anything to do with it
#2126 [17:50] <Rikairchy> modern mainstream computers
#2127 [17:50] <Rikairchy> better
#2128 [17:50] <Rikairchy> ?
#2129 [17:50] <sugoi> MrTubs95: with you crash? no
#2130 [17:50] <sugoi> MrTubs95: do a force update
#2131 [17:50] <Seldion> Haha sure :P
#2132 [17:50] <kal7_7> yes i have tryed thet last week
#2133 [17:50] <Rikairchy> kal7_7:
#2134 [17:50] <kal7_7> yes
#2135 [17:50] <Rikairchy> contacting mojang is essentially your only option
#2136 [17:50] <MrTubs95> ill just go play minez lol
#2137 [17:50] <Rikairchy> we do not have account access
#2138 [17:51] <sugoi> kal7_7: we have no account access here
#2139 [17:51] <Rikairchy> we cannot directly assist with anything relating to accounts
#2140 [17:51] <Rikairchy> the only thing that can be offered in that area is information
#2141 [17:51] <sugoi> kal7_7: contacting mojang help is your best and only option if someone has honestly hijacked your account
#2142 [17:51] <kal7_7> i just what my accout back
#2143 [17:51] <sugoi> kal7_7: follow the steps on that link, it's your best course of action at this point
#2144 [17:52] <sugoi> kal7_7: and i want you to get it back too
#2145 [17:52] <MrTubs95> anybody here have premium for minez?
#2146 [17:52] <kal7_7> £16 spent on noting
#2147 [17:52] <Rikairchy> okay, kal7_7. your best chance to restore your account is that link.
#2148 [17:52] <sugoi> kal7_7: what? no, you'll get it back
#2149 [17:52] <Rikairchy> pay attention to what was repeatedly said
#2150 [17:52] <sugoi> kal7_7: just email mojang, and be patient
#2151 [17:52] <MrTubs95> patient... my weakness
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#2153 [17:52] <kal7_7> my username has been moved to someone ence email
#2154 [17:53] <sugoi> kal7_7: explain that in your email to mojang
#2155 [17:53] <sugoi> just follow the steps on that site
#2156 [17:53] <kal7_7> i dont no how
#2157 [17:53] <sugoi> kal7_7: i would love to help, but i can't
#2158 [17:53] <kal7_7> it's to hard
#2159 [17:53] <sugoi> troll
#2160 [17:53] <sugoi> it's too hard :)
#2161 [17:53] <sugoi> come on, you just email them :)
#2162 [17:53] <Seldion> Thats what she said.... or tried to, she was being raped....
#2163 [17:53] * sugoi wonders what got him grumpy
#2163 [17:53] <Rikairchy> wtf
#2164 [17:54] <sugoi> rule0, be wonderful to everyone
#2165 [17:54] <kal7_7> i car't contact mojang
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#2167 [17:54] <sugoi> Seldion: tone it down, plz
#2168 [17:54] <Rikairchy> then you shall never recover your account.
#2169 [17:54] <Seldion> Me thinks kal7_7 is just bsing around.
#2170 [17:54] <kal7_7> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
#2171 [17:54] <Rikairchy> as do I
#2172 [17:54] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03: fix it :<
#2173 [17:54] <Seldion> O.o
#2174 [17:55] <kal7_7> i what me f***ing accout back
#2175 [17:55] <kal7_7> my
#2176 [17:55] <Rikairchy> well that will not help
#2177 [17:55] <sugoi> and want*
#2178 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 2
#2179 [17:55] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 2 = For account issues see http://is.gd/mc_acct ] ... set by [ tyteen4a03 | Tue Dec 11 10:30:15 MST 2012 ]
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#2181 [17:55] <Rikairchy> hi DopeGhoti
#2182 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> good morning.
#2183 [17:55] <Rikairchy> how are you on this fine day?
#2184 [17:56] <kal7_7> not good
#2185 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> Not too shabby; and yourself?
#2186 [17:56] <Rikairchy> I'm off work after a nice 12 hour day. currently waiting to get the title of a recently purchased truck
#2187 [17:56] <sugoi> kal7_7: you want your account back, we want to help you, but we cannot. Mojang can help, and they CAN, and will! just read that link and follow the steps
#2188 [17:57] <kal7_7> ok ill be back
#2189 [17:57] <kal7_7> maby
#2190 [17:57] <kal7_7> not
#2191 [17:57] <Rikairchy> i wonder what the ratio is of people that actually help, and those that idle
#2192 [17:57] <sugoi> mojang wants to* help, and they can ... whatever, typos
#2193 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: there're a fair number of idlers here
#2194 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> but idling doesn't generate any noise, so it's all good.
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#2196 [17:58] <Seldion> Indeed
#2197 [17:58] <sugoi> mr scot for example, he idle a lot
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#2199 [17:58] <sugoi> 't' left out on purpose
#2200 [17:58] <Rikairchy> when I was here about two? or so years ago, there were pretty much the same users here idling as was then, iirc
#2201 [17:58] <Seldion> Well thank you again sugoi for all the help, Have a great day.
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#2203 [17:58] <sugoi> ok, will do
#2204 [17:58] <kal7_7> migrat dont work
#2205 [17:59] <Rikairchy> kal7_7: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2206 [17:59] <Rikairchy> that will allow you to submit a ticket to mojang to reset your account
#2207 [17:59] <sugoi> kal7_7: just curious, what langauge do you speak?
#2208 [18:00] <sugoi> honest question, no sarcasm, promise!
#2209 [18:00] <sugoi> i'm just curious
#2210 [18:00] <kal7_7> english
#2211 [18:00] <kal7_7> do you have skype
#2212 [18:00] <sugoi> this medium works fine
#2213 [18:00] <sugoi> why do you prefer skype?
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#2215 [18:01] <kal7_7> transactione id help
#2216 [18:01] <sugoi> i can do nothing with that
#2217 [18:01] <sugoi> you submit that to mojang
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#2219 [18:01] <kal7_7> ok
#2220 [18:01] <sugoi> i do not work for mojang, no one here does (tho we've had visitors)
#2221 [18:01] <Rikairchy> oops.
#2222 [18:01] <sugoi> we are all just people like you, wanting to help other people
#2223 [18:02] * sugoi wonders if any of us _do_ work for mojang, and just don't let on to it
#2223 [18:02] <Rikairchy> hush
#2224 [18:02] * sugoi eyes DopeGhoti suspiciously
#2224 [18:02] <Rikairchy> dont give away my secret
#2225 [18:03] <sugoi> :)
#2226 [18:03] <kal7_7> transactione i cart find it
#2227 [18:03] <Rikairchy> how did you buy it?
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#2229 [18:03] <sugoi> can't* ?
#2230 [18:04] <kal7_7> card i think
#2231 [18:04] <Rikairchy> you need the PIN from that card
#2232 [18:04] <kal7_7> i got it year a go
#2233 [18:04] <sugoi> security pin?
#2234 [18:04] <sugoi> what are you talking about Rikairchy ?
#2235 [18:04] <Rikairchy> his account
#2236 [18:04] <Rikairchy> if he purchased minecraft using a prepaid card
#2237 [18:05] <Rikairchy> the transaction ID is the code on the card
#2238 [18:05] <Rikairchy> here, we refer to them as PIN
#2239 [18:05] <sugoi> o_O, ok
#2240 [18:05] <Rikairchy> Prepaid PIN - example: 123 456 7890
#2241 [18:05] <Rikairchy> This ten digit number comes from prepaid Minecraft cards, available in the US at Walmart, Target, and Best Buy.
#2242 [18:05] <sugoi> kal7_7: just email mojang what you DO have, do your best to prove who you are
#2243 [18:06] <kal7_7> i done that half an hr a go
#2244 [18:06] <kal7_7> i have tryed eveything
#2245 [18:06] <sugoi> kal7_7: this takes a lot more time than 30 minutes
#2246 [18:07] <Rikairchy> good luck, sugoi
#2247 [18:07] <Rikairchy> let me know how this turns out
#2248 [18:07] <sugoi> :)
#2249 [18:07] <kal7_7> i have been trying to get it back for 2 weeks
#2250 [18:07] <kal7_7> im soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking bord
#2251 [18:07] * AuBot kicked kal7_7 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: al7_7 :Please keep it civil.)
#2252 [18:07] <sugoi> then what did you do a half hour ago?
#2253 [18:08] * Rikairchy pets the VoxelHead
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#2254 [18:09] <kal7_7> im back
#2255 [18:10] <kal7_7> hello
#2256 [18:10] <sugoi> kal7_7: welcome
#2257 [18:10] <kal7_7> i was kickt
#2258 [18:10] <sugoi> yep, language
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#2260 [18:11] <kal7_7> why was i kicked
#2261 [18:11] <Grim_Reaper> you said a naughty word
#2262 [18:11] <kal7_7> ok
#2263 [18:11] <kal7_7> im so mad
#2264 [18:12] <NinjaKirby> lol, I got a Junk Email from balmer@microsoft.com, with a Subject entitled "Windows 8 Is Fail"
#2265 [18:13] <sugoi> kal7_7: i would email mojang with all the information i could to prove i own the game, that's really the best thing you can do
#2266 [18:13] <sugoi> kal7_7: find transaction emails, numbers, dates, anything, give what your email USED to be, etc
#2267 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 2
#2268 [18:14] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 2 = For account issues see http://is.gd/mc_acct ] ... set by [ tyteen4a03 | Tue Dec 11 10:30:15 MST 2012 ]
#2269 [18:14] <kal7_7> the id my mum says no
#2270 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> kal7_7: There is literally nothing we can do other than send you to that link
#2271 [18:14] <kal7_7> :'(
#2272 [18:15] <sugoi> kal7_7: your mom says no as in she doesn't have the id anymore, or she won't give it to you?
#2273 [18:15] <kal7_7> ok bye im going to play cod if im not hacked as whell
#2274 [18:15] <kal7_7> can to contat mojang
#2275 [18:16] <kal7_7> can you
#2276 [18:16] <kal7_7> or someone
#2277 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> I wonder if kal7_7 is old enough to be supposed to be playing Call of frelling Duty.
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#2279 [18:16] <sugoi> kal7_7: you want me to contact mojang for you?
#2280 [18:16] <kal7_7> lol
#2281 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> and you might, kal7_7, need to familiarize yourself with the meaning of 'literally nothing'.
#2282 [18:16] <kal7_7> yes
#2283 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> kal7_7: There is _literally nothing_ we can do other than send you to that link
#2284 [18:17] <Sockster> My brother deleted one of my worlds, is there a way to get it back?
#2285 [18:17] <Grim_Reaper> Unless you have a backup
#2286 [18:17] <Grim_Reaper> No
#2287 [18:17] <sugoi> kal7_7: if i were able to recover your account for you, i might as well take your account, and DopeGhoti's, and everyone elses
#2288 [18:18] <sugoi> kal7_7: only you, with your purchase information, can prove you own the game and get it back
#2289 [18:18] <kal7_7> lol
#2290 [18:18] <Sockster> Do I have to intentially make a back up or does minecraft do it automatically
#2291 [18:18] <sugoi> kal7_7: honestly, ask your mom to read that link we gave and help you get it back
#2292 [18:18] <Grim_Reaper> You have to make your own Sockster
#2293 [18:18] <Grim_Reaper> kal7_7 listen to sugoi. He's right. You cannot get your account recovered unless you can prove to mojang it's really you
#2294 [18:18] <Sockster> where can i check to see if I have a back up of it
#2295 [18:18] <Grim_Reaper> And in the future, always use strong passwords
#2296 [18:18] <kal7_7> ok ill might be on tomoz bye
#2297 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> Sockster: a backup could be practically anywhere.
#2298 [18:19] <Grim_Reaper> Sockster if you did by any chance make a backup... it would be whereever you put it..
#2299 [18:19] <Sockster> Okay, I didn't make a back up
#2300 [18:19] <sugoi> haha
#2301 [18:19] <Grim_Reaper> Then you won't have one
#2302 [18:19] <kal7_7> bye
#2303 [18:19] <Grim_Reaper> Minecraft does not backup your worlds
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#2305 [18:19] <Sockster> the amount of time I just lost from that deletion
#2306 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> Sockster: the closest you would get then is to use the same seed, if you remember the seed you used.
#2307 [18:19] <Grim_Reaper> If you really like. You can try look for something in the .minecraft area
#2308 [18:19] <Grim_Reaper> ?? win/.minecraft
#2309 [18:19] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#2310 [18:19] <Grim_Reaper> But it's unlikely that theres anything in there
#2311 [18:20] <Grim_Reaper> In the saves folder ~
#2312 [18:20] <Sockster> I'm using mac, does that still aply
#2313 [18:20] <Grim_Reaper> Umm sec
#2314 [18:20] <Grim_Reaper> ?? mac/.minecraft
#2315 [18:20] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#2316 [18:22] <Sockster> theres a folder that says bin, would it be in there
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#2318 [18:23] <Sockster> whats the seed?
#2319 [18:23] <Sockster> alright, thank you
#2320 [18:23] <Sockster> Have a nice day/night
#2321 [18:23] <Sockster> Have a nice day/night
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#2323 [18:28] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: i once got an answer to a question about 24 hours after i asked it
#2324 [18:28] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#2325 [18:28] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: it was a VERY quiet channel
#2326 [18:28] <Grim_Reaper> Poor sugoi
#2327 [18:28] <sugoi> i just asked, tabbed out, and noticed the next day someone say it
#2328 [18:28] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: haha, no no it's fine
#2329 [18:28] <sugoi> i just laugh when ppl ask a good question, then leave
#2330 [18:28] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#2331 [18:29] <sugoi> it's like --- just WAIT dude
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#2333 [18:29] <Grim_Reaper> You know.. Come to think of it
#2334 [18:29] <sugoi> it was on #ksp btw
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#2336 [18:29] <Grim_Reaper> What if they're asking that question! Just to get us excited and start tying
#2337 [18:29] <Grim_Reaper> typing*
#2338 [18:29] <Grim_Reaper> So they must be trolling us man
#2339 [18:29] <sugoi> jerks
#2340 [18:30] <sugoi> if they time it JUST right, we'll have already tab-completed their name
#2341 [18:30] <sugoi> then we THINK we've got them, and then they leave...as we have the words in text already
#2342 [18:30] <evanrocks135> What does this mean?: A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#2343 [18:31] <sugoi> evanrocks135: can you pastebin the entirity of the error for us?
#2344 [18:31] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#2345 [18:31] <Grim_Reaper> Also yeah pastebin :p
#2346 [18:31] <sugoi> entirety*
#2347 [18:31] <evanrocks135> how do I pastebin?
#2348 [18:32] <Grim_Reaper> ?? pastebin
#2349 [18:32] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2350 [18:32] <sugoi> ??> evanrocks135 pastebin
#2351 [18:32] * sugoi grumbles
#2351 [18:32] <Grim_Reaper> Hah beat you :D
#2352 [18:32] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#2353 [18:32] * Disori|off is now known as Disori
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#2355 [18:34] <evanrocks135> http://pastebin.com/FTYBQqJN
#2356 [18:35] <sugoi> opengl support
#2357 [18:35] <sugoi> evanrocks135: so, you'll want to update your graphics driver
#2358 [18:35] <sugoi> but let's check if your computer can run it anyways
#2359 [18:35] <sugoi> ??> evanrocks135 win/dxdiag
#2360 [18:35] <VoxelHead> evanrocks135: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2361 [18:35] <VoxelHead> evanrocks135: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2362 [18:39] <evanrocks135> http://pastebin.com/83SxmCA7
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#2364 [18:40] <sugoi> intel hd graphics
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#2366 [18:40] <sugoi> i bet with an intel graphics update you'll be able to run the game, it'll be slow, but it should work
#2367 [18:41] <sugoi> let me get you a link to intel's site, sec
#2368 [18:41] <KingofGamesYami> I put a mod in the mod folder, but cant get back to it because /Library is hidden. How do i delete this using terminal.app?
#2369 [18:41] <evanrocks135> I appreciate the help....thanks
#2370 [18:41] * Corin is now known as Corin|Away
#2371 [18:42] <KingofGamesYami> im running on a mac
#2372 [18:42] <sugoi> evanrocks135: use this tool: http://intel-drv-ws.systemrequirementslab.com/iDUU/download/graphics?lang=en
#2373 [18:42] <sugoi> KingofGamesYami: *.app, we got that - but sorry, not your apple guy
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#2375 [18:43] <KingofGamesYami> k
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#2377 [18:43] <sugoi> ...
#2378 [18:43] <sugoi> but others could help
#2379 [18:43] <sugoi> ah well
#2380 [18:43] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#2381 [18:43] <Grim_Reaper> I really laughed irl at you now when he left xP
#2382 [18:43] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: on macs, can you cd to a hidden dir in command-line?
#2383 [18:44] <sugoi> :)
#2384 [18:44] <Grim_Reaper> I have no idea lol
#2385 [18:44] <Grim_Reaper> I've never touched a mac in my life
#2386 [18:44] <Grim_Reaper> But I would presume you could
#2387 [18:44] <sugoi> it makes you feel pretty cheap and naseated, like you just saw a naked pic of justin beiber or something
#2388 [18:44] <sugoi> but it happens
#2389 [18:45] <Grim_Reaper> hah
#2390 [18:45] <evanrocks135> This device is unknown or unsupported. Please contact the manufacturer for possible updates
#2391 [18:46] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm..
#2392 [18:47] <evanrocks135> When I try to ryn the game it loads and then the window closes
#2393 [18:47] <evanrocks135> run
#2394 [18:47] <Grim_Reaper> Well by the sound of it theres no driver update available for you =\
#2395 [18:47] <su> !login
#2396 [18:47] <su> WTF
#2397 [18:48] <Grim_Reaper> Lemme see if I can find something for you evanrocks135
#2398 [18:49] <evanrocks135> thanks
#2399 [18:50] <Grim_Reaper> OK Umm
#2400 [18:50] <Grim_Reaper> Theres no promise that this is going to work
#2401 [18:50] <Grim_Reaper> Now you need to listen carefully though
#2402 [18:50] <Grim_Reaper> Do you know how to do a system restore?
#2403 [18:50] <evanrocks135> no
#2404 [18:51] <Grim_Reaper> Ok. Lets get this done first. Because in the event these drivers don't work. You'll need to do one
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#2406 [18:51] <evanrocks135> ok
#2407 [18:52] <Grim_Reaper> click the start menu icon. Click All Programs > Click Accessories > Click System Tools > Click System restore
#2408 [18:53] <Grim_Reaper> Or actually better yet. Do the following rather.
#2409 [18:53] <Grim_Reaper> On your desktop. Right click "My Computer" If it isn't on your desktop. Click the start menu, and on the right where it says computer right click on there
#2410 [18:53] <Grim_Reaper> Click Properties
#2411 [18:53] <evanrocks135> so I'm cancelling the restore?
#2412 [18:53] <Grim_Reaper> yeah cancel that
#2413 [18:54] <Grim_Reaper> I want you to create a restore point
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#2415 [18:54] <Grim_Reaper> So when you're at the system properties window let me know
#2416 [18:55] <evanrocks135> okay I'm there
#2417 [18:55] <Grim_Reaper> Alright click on "System Protection"
#2418 [18:55] <Grim_Reaper> Another window will pop up
#2419 [18:55] <evanrocks135> ok
#2420 [18:56] <Grim_Reaper> In there you'll find a list of hardrives to select. Select your "C" system one
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#2422 [18:56] <Grim_Reaper> Once you've selected it. Click on the button that says create. Name it something like my restore minecraft if you like
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#2424 [18:57] <Grim_Reaper> Once the restore point is finished creating. Download this driver. http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=21776&lang=eng Install it. (run as admin)
#2425 [18:57] <evanrocks135> okay it was successful
#2426 [18:57] <Grim_Reaper> If all goes well. You may need to restart your computer
#2427 [18:57] <Grim_Reaper> After that. Give running minecraft a try
#2428 [18:57] <Grim_Reaper> BUT
#2429 [18:58] <Grim_Reaper> If in any event your computer messes around after installing these drivers
#2430 [18:58] <Grim_Reaper> Use that system restore point you made
#2431 [18:58] <Grim_Reaper> To reverse the changers
#2432 [18:58] <sugoi> su: hi
#2433 [18:59] <evanrocks135> do I run or save the download?
#2434 [18:59] <Grim_Reaper> Either is fine
#2435 [18:59] <Grim_Reaper> if you save it, just be sure to go to the location of the file and run it there
#2436 [18:59] <Grim_Reaper> If you select run, it'll do that for you
#2437 [19:00] <Grim_Reaper> I need to go to bed now though. 2 am here
#2438 [19:00] <Grim_Reaper> So yeah. Just give sugoi a shout if you need him
#2439 [19:00] <Grim_Reaper> Night night
#2440 [19:00] <sugoi> night
#2441 [19:01] <sugoi> evanrocks135: did mc ever work on this machine?
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#2444 [19:02] <Grim_Reaper> And now.. we wait
#2445 [19:02] <Grim_Reaper> (still getting ready for bed >_>
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#2449 [19:08] <ajmill> how is it that i can't get a user name no matter what name i put in?
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#2451 [19:09] <Grim_Reaper> What username are you trying to use.
#2452 [19:09] <Grim_Reaper> Lol :|
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#2456 [19:15] <sugoi> username notch is taken
#2457 [19:15] <sugoi> dude
#2458 [19:15] <sugoi> he left too
#2459 [19:16] * sugoi shakes fist, "WHY?! Cruel World!"
#2459 [19:16] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#2460 [19:16] <Grim_Reaper> Evil peoples ;-;
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#2462 [19:17] <Grim_Reaper> I really hope that evanrocks dude can play
#2463 [19:17] <Grim_Reaper> Kinda feel sorry for him xP
#2464 [19:17] <Grim_Reaper> Seems like a decent person
#2465 [19:17] <Grim_Reaper> Thus.. I wait to see if he came right
#2466 [19:18] <Grim_Reaper> Despite falling asleep here :|
#2467 [19:18] <sugoi> ha
#2468 [19:18] <gdungeon> just registered an account, when i go to buy minecraft it says i have to secure my account, when i click to secure it says it could not load security questions, keep getting this messsage, wut do
#2469 [19:18] <sugoi> i've heard of this error
#2470 [19:18] <Grim_Reaper> Tried a different browser?
#2471 [19:18] <gdungeon> nah, just chrome
#2472 [19:18] <sugoi> gdungeon: i use firefox, worked :/
#2473 [19:18] <Grim_Reaper> See if maybe another browser works unless sugoi knows an answer ^^
#2474 [19:18] <sugoi> haven't tried chrome
#2475 [19:19] <sugoi> i've only heard of this problem
#2476 [19:19] <gdungeon> ah cool, ill try firefox
#2477 [19:19] <sugoi> but the chap didn't stick around to work it out with us :)
#2478 [19:19] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#2479 [19:19] <Grim_Reaper> When do they =\
#2480 [19:19] <sugoi> haha, i'm not even kidding!
#2481 [19:19] <sugoi> gdungeon: don't forget about us!
#2482 [19:19] <sugoi> gdungeon: if you work this out, i'd really like to know
#2483 [19:19] <gdungeon> word
#2484 [19:19] <sugoi> dope
#2485 [19:20] <gdungeon> yea just downloaded firefox
#2486 [19:23] <gdungeon> same thing in firefox
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#2488 [19:23] <sugoi> doh!
#2489 [19:23] <sugoi> ok, says it cannot load security question, eh?
#2490 [19:23] <gdungeon> yea thats it
#2491 [19:23] <sugoi> can you take a screenshot? plz make sure it has no personal info if you choose to do that
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#2493 [19:24] <jleg_> hello
#2494 [19:24] <sugoi> jleg_: hi
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#2496 [19:24] <Grim_Reaper> See if the dreaded IE works
#2497 [19:24] <jleg_> im trying to purchase minecraft but the website cannot load my security questions
#2498 [19:24] <sugoi> same!
#2499 [19:24] <sugoi> ok, what if this is a mojang issue
#2500 [19:24] <gdungeon> k got screenshot
#2501 [19:24] <sugoi> server side
#2502 [19:25] <sugoi> lemme see
#2503 [19:25] <sugoi> jleg_: gdungeon has the same error
#2504 [19:25] <jleg_> thats what i think
#2505 [19:25] <gdungeon> cool
#2506 [19:25] <jleg_> kinda sucks
#2507 [19:26] <jleg_> the only thing to do i guess is wait for the problem to get fixed to buy the thing
#2508 [19:26] <sugoi> gdungeon: still would like to see that image tho
#2509 [19:26] <gdungeon> how can i send it to you
#2510 [19:27] <jleg_> imageshack
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#2512 [19:27] <sugoi> gdungeon: imgur, too
#2513 [19:27] * sugoi likes imgur
#2513 [19:27] <jleg_> its a screenshot of the erro?
#2514 [19:28] <sugoi> aye
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#2516 [19:29] <gdungeon> think i got it
#2517 [19:29] <gdungeon> http://imgur.com/ppUuu
#2518 [19:30] <jleg_> http://i.imgur.com/inY5k.jpg?1
#2519 [19:30] <Rikairchy> sugoi:
#2520 [19:30] <Rikairchy> did that other guy disappear after he was kicked?
#2521 [19:31] <jleg_> same error
#2522 [19:31] <gdungeon> yea
#2523 [19:32] <jleg_> well good luck guys
#2524 [19:32] <jleg_> i guess ill try tomorrow
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#2528 [19:37] <sugoi> Rikairchy: he came back once
#2529 [19:37] <sugoi> Rikairchy: i think i finally convinced him to talk to his mom
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#2531 [19:37] <sugoi> gdungeon: that really looks like mojang's fault
#2532 [19:38] <sugoi> sorry about that
#2533 [19:38] <gdungeon> ah, i tried to find a way to email/contact them but couldnt find it on the site
#2534 [19:38] <sugoi> they have an account help page, sec
#2535 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> ?? account
#2536 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> ??+ account|For account issues, please see http://is.gd/mc_acct
#2537 [19:39] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: :) i was looking for the key
#2538 [19:40] <sugoi> gdungeon: http://is.gd/mc_acct
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#2541 [19:41] <Rikairchy> sugoi: http://puu.sh/1zUV2
#2542 [19:41] <Rikairchy> D: :'<
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#2544 [19:42] <sugoi> ha, wow
#2545 [19:42] <Kendrayda> Minecraft isn't letting me select a username?
#2546 [19:42] <Rikairchy> i dont even
#2547 [19:42] <sugoi> Kendrayda: you're the 2nd person to come say that in about 2 minutes
#2548 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> Kendrayda: username selection is part of the purchase process.
#2549 [19:42] <sugoi> also other site accoutn issues
#2550 [19:42] <Kendrayda> really haha?
#2551 [19:42] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: true..but i feel something else is up, but more info from Kendrayda might help
#2552 [19:43] <Kendrayda> i purchased the game, got the email, selected the url to create a name and EVERYTHING is taken
#2553 [19:43] <Rikairchy> maybe its the world ending 10 days early
#2554 [19:43] <Rikairchy> D:
#2555 [19:43] <gdungeon> thanks for the link but couldnt find much help there, still cant find a way to email mojang about the issue
#2556 [19:43] <su> !login
#2557 [19:43] <Rikairchy> we read it wrong
#2558 [19:43] <Kendrayda> i even posted random numbers and letters and it said it was taken.
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#2560 [19:43] <sugoi> su: hey!
#2561 [19:43] <su> -_-
#2562 [19:43] <su> I swear
#2563 [19:43] <Rikairchy> 12-11-12 :<
#2564 [19:43] <su> something is up
#2565 [19:43] <sugoi> su: why you left so fast last time?
#2566 [19:43] <su> ?
#2567 [19:43] <Kendrayda> I'm just really frustrated.
#2568 [19:43] <Grim_Reaper> Doesn't look like that guy is coming back
#2569 [19:43] <Grim_Reaper> Ah well night
#2570 [19:44] <sugoi> Kendrayda: i THINK mojang is having more issues today with their auth
#2571 [19:44] <sugoi> names, security questions, login auth server
#2572 [19:44] <sugoi> su: seeing "bad login" ?
#2573 [19:44] <Kendrayda> no way around this, or a different approach?
#2574 [19:44] <su> Seeing unable to connect
#2575 [19:44] <sugoi> Kendrayda: well if it is mojang's server side, time will tell
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#2577 [19:45] <Kendrayda> grr... i've been trying for the past 3 hours. murphys law i tell you. had to be the one day i have off work.
#2578 [19:45] <sugoi> if you are having problems with their site (name selection, security questions, general account access issues) then =>
#2579 [19:45] <sugoi> ?? account
#2580 [19:45] <VoxelHead> account: For account issues, please see http://is.gd/mc_acct
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#2582 [19:46] <su> Kendrayda, where do you live?
#2583 [19:46] <Kendrayda> Lancaster ohio
#2584 [19:46] <su> Eastern US?
#2585 [19:46] <Kendrayda> yes
#2586 [19:46] <su> I'm thinking the login server is down for the Eastern US
#2587 [19:47] <Kendrayda> is that normal? you think it'll come up soon>
#2588 [19:47] <Kendrayda> i mean my other account works and logs in just fine.
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#2590 [19:49] <Kendrayda> so the best advice is to just wait?
#2591 [19:49] <sugoi> Kendrayda: email mojang about it, sounds suspicious to me
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#2593 [19:52] <Fred> why does it say all the usernames i enter are taken?
#2594 [19:52] <su> because you're uncreative
#2595 [19:52] <Fred> not that
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#2600 [19:55] <Billy> mY MINECRAFT KEEPS CRASHING
#2601 [19:56] <Billy> when im in the middle of a multiplayer server it crashes
#2602 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> Billy: try Mojang's Minecraft instead.
#2603 [19:56] <Billy> that's not what i mean
#2604 [19:56] <Billy> that's not what i mean
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#2606 [19:57] <Billy> i bought it and downloaded it
#2607 [19:57] <CrusaderDeleters> From where
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#2610 [19:58] <Billy> minecraft.net
#2611 [19:59] <Billy> im in the middle of a multiplayer server
#2612 [19:59] <Billy> and that notepad thing comes
#2613 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Billy: are there any mods on either your client or the server?
#2614 [19:59] <Billy> yeah
#2615 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#2616 [19:59] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2617 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> step one: remove all mods
#2618 [19:59] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2619 [19:59] <Billy> i had these mods for a while though. are you sure thats the problem?
#2620 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> No, but I am also sure they're not _not_ the problem
#2621 [20:00] <Billy> the beginning of the crash says "Exception in world tick"
#2622 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> Try removing any and all mods, and seeing whether the problem persists.
#2623 [20:00] <Billy> alrighty.
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#2631 [20:13] <roji> I'm trying to install and run minecraft and i bought pemium, and it always says login failed nothing gets downloaded or installed tried to use the browser says i'm missing java, and i have the most current version, i'm using google chrome and use avast for antivirus, is here something i'm missing or doing wrong?
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#2634 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> which browser are you using when you try to use that method?
#2635 [20:16] <roji> google chrome
#2636 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> if it's saying Java is missing or not installed, there may be a problem with your Java installation itself
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#2638 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> You are I presume running Windows?
#2639 [20:17] <roji> yes windows 7
#2640 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> roji win/javara
#2641 [20:17] <VoxelHead> roji: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2642 [20:17] <VoxelHead> roji: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#2643 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> try using that, and then reinstalling Java
#2644 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> roji java/1.6
#2645 [20:17] <VoxelHead> roji: (java/1.6) To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u35-downloads-1836473.html
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#2647 [20:20] <roji> ok i'll try that, what about the login failed on the download client
#2648 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> roji: we'll get to that
#2649 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> since the downloaded client also relies upon Java, it's not outside the realm of possibility that this may fix both problems.
#2650 [20:21] <roji> ok ijjst installed java from the link and the browser version is running
#2651 [20:21] <roji> i just*
#2652 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> so it's running successfully in-broeser now?
#2653 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> in-browser, even?
#2654 [20:23] <roji> it is i just tried the download and i'm getting login failed but i have the option to play offline now
#2655 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> roji: there may be issues with the login servers, but as you said, now that you've run it once, offline will work in the mean time
#2656 [20:25] <roji> yeah thanks for he help i had java 7.0 and not a 6.0
#2657 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> that can sometimes cause problems
#2658 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> glad you're up and running!
#2659 [20:27] <roji> yup, thanks again i'll keep trying on the download!
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#2664 [20:34] <Minecraftcat10> I have the minecraft-server.jar, have it all set up, but it keeps saying Failed to verify username! [internal error java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect]
#2665 [20:34] <Minecraftcat10> PLEASE HELP
#2666 [20:36] <sugoi> Minecraftcat10: likely mojang auth servers, seen a lot of issues over the last day
#2667 [20:36] <sugoi> Minecraftcat10: can you use offline mode in the interim?
#2668 [20:37] <Minecraftcat10> PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im only ten and its boring crafting on my own!
#2669 [20:37] * JTR|Away is now known as JTR
#2670 [20:38] <Minecraftcat10> HELP
#2671 [20:38] <Minecraftcat10> I HAVENTY EVEN SEEN MY OWN SERVER!
#2672 [20:38] <sugoi> Minecraftcat10: seriously
#2673 [20:38] <sugoi> did you even read what i said?
#2674 [20:38] <Minecraftcat10> yes
#2675 [20:38] <sugoi> then please what?
#2676 [20:38] <sugoi> i've given you an answer
#2677 [20:39] <Minecraftcat10> im only ten, and ive had a terrible day.
#2678 [20:39] <Minecraftcat10> CRAAAAAAAAAAAP
#2679 [20:39] <sugoi> Minecraftcat10: i'm not sure what you would like me to do
#2680 [20:39] <sugoi> there is nothing we can do to fix this mojang's auth sevices
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#2682 [20:40] <Minecraftcat10> Contact markus perrson to hurry up debugging
#2683 [20:40] <sugoi> you can play offline mode until auth is back up
#2684 [20:40] <sugoi> Minecraftcat10: this irc channel is made of volunteers, none of us work for mojang
#2685 [20:40] <Minecraftcat10> oh
#2686 [20:40] <sugoi> we have the same contact to mojang as you have
#2687 [20:41] <Minecraftcat10> Well, better email markus
#2688 [20:41] <sugoi> may i suggest you not use call caps
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#2690 [20:41] <Minecraftcat10> sorry for bugging you
#2691 [20:41] <sugoi> people read better with correct spelling and proper formatting
#2692 [20:41] <sugoi> meh, i'm good
#2693 [20:42] <helpmeplz> plz help my minecraft isnt working and idk what to do
#2694 [20:42] <Minecraftcat10> One last thing, Is herobrine real?
#2695 [20:42] <sugoi> helpmeplz: stop herpaderping
#2696 [20:42] <Minecraftcat10> More details, Helpmeplz
#2697 [20:42] <sugoi> haha
#2698 [20:43] <Minecraftcat10> Herobrine?
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#2700 [20:43] <Minecraftcat10> I swear, i saw him.
#2701 [20:43] <Minecraftcat10> Default skin, no nametag!
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#2703 [20:44] <helpmeplz> my minecraft when i go to log in it brings up a screen that says updating minecraft and beneath that it say done loading and the green bar isnt full and it just sits there not moving
#2704 [20:45] <sugoi> helpmeplz: next to login, there is an options link
#2705 [20:45] <sugoi> click that, force update
#2706 [20:45] <helpmeplz> i did it does nothing
#2707 [20:45] <Lutzee> helpmeplz: what Antivirus do you use?
#2708 [20:46] <sugoi> that too, thanks Lutzee
#2709 [20:46] <helpmeplz> norton internet security i have windows 8
#2710 [20:46] * Lutzee cringes
#2710 [20:46] <Lutzee> Um temperarily disable it and try again
#2711 [20:46] <helpmeplz> ok
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#2714 [20:50] <helpmeplz> it did the same thing as before it didnt work
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#2716 [20:51] <helpmeplz> it didnt work
#2717 [20:52] <sugoi> helpmeplz: i'm sure he saw "it didn't work" in the line above
#2718 [20:52] <Lutzee> Hmm
#2719 [20:52] <sugoi> firewall for java?
#2720 [20:52] <Lutzee> I'm still tempted to think it is norton..
#2721 [20:52] <helpmeplz> java
#2722 [20:53] <Lutzee> Because Overprotective AVs like to have things running in the background that can't be disabled
#2723 [20:53] <helpmeplz> norton shouldnt affect it it never has before
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#2725 [20:55] <Dennis> After paying for the minecraft, Ilost the page where to create Username. What is the link to this page? I don't have username and cannot login to the game.
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#2727 [21:00] <helpmeplz> ive tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it and it still doesnt work
#2728 [21:01] <tyger> i bought a prepaid gamecard and they arent taking them .. any suggestions?
#2729 [21:02] <tyger> anyone else having trouble with the prepaid cards?
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#2735 [21:07] <esper_gvxgcu> So, I've got a problem.
#2736 [21:08] <Rikairchy> thats usually why most people join
#2737 [21:08] <esper_gvxgcu> Anyway.
#2738 [21:08] <Rikairchy> no one ever joins just to say hi
#2739 [21:08] <esper_gvxgcu> Friend got me a gift code.
#2740 [21:08] <esper_gvxgcu> Put it in, and it rejects it.
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#2742 [21:08] <esper_gvxgcu> He sends me a screenshot showing it's real and al.
#2743 [21:08] <Rikairchy> whats the rejection error?
#2744 [21:09] <esper_gvxgcu> "Invalid code"
#2745 [21:09] <esper_gvxgcu> Put it in exactly as stated, no spaces or anything
#2746 [21:09] <Rikairchy> and how many characters are there in it?
#2747 [21:09] <Rikairchy> how many numbers/letters are there?
#2748 [21:09] <esper_gvxgcu> it's like
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#2750 [21:09] <esper_gvxgcu> x5x5-x5x5-x5x5
#2751 [21:09] <esper_gvxgcu> that style
#2752 [21:11] <esper_gvxgcu> After trying a bunch, it says I can't try again.
#2753 [21:11] <Rikairchy> is it a gift code, or a prepaid pin
#2754 [21:11] <esper_gvxgcu> gift code
#2755 [21:11] <Rikairchy> Mojang gift code - example: a1b2-c3d4-e5f6 or B2C3-D4F6-G7H8
#2756 [21:11] <Rikairchy> that format, right?
#2757 [21:11] <Rikairchy> !auth
#2758 [21:11] <Rikairchy> hm
#2759 [21:11] <esper_gvxgcu> exactly
#2760 [21:11] <Rikairchy> !help
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#2762 [21:12] <Rikairchy> well that didn't help me too much
#2763 [21:12] <Lutzee> What do you need?
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#2765 [21:13] <Rikairchy> the one that checks the auth servers
#2766 [21:13] <Rikairchy> I'm getting a "bad login" error, repeatedly
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#2768 [21:13] <esper_gvxgcu> Also, I emailed them though the page said they're still working on emails from nov 26th
#2769 [21:13] <esper_gvxgcu> way to think this through, mojang
#2770 [21:15] <Lutzee> They were 3 months behind on emails at one point
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#2773 [21:15] <esper_gvxgcu> lordy
#2774 [21:15] <esper_gvxgcu> can't they hire people
#2775 [21:15] <Rikairchy> their servers have been on the fritz lately
#2776 [21:16] <esper_gvxgcu> Anyway, is there a way to fix this?
#2777 [21:16] <esper_gvxgcu> I want my darn minecraft.
#2778 [21:16] <Lutzee> They did, but when a game gets popular really quickly then theres not really much time to organise the highring and training of tech support staff
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#2780 [21:17] <Lutzee> esper_gvxgcu: Its probably best to wait for a reply from mojang, they will be able to help you more than we can
#2781 [21:17] <esper_gvxgcu> Alright, thanks.
#2782 [21:17] <esper_gvxgcu> for now i can continue my shameful piracy
#2783 [21:17] <Rikairchy> cochino
#2784 [21:18] <Lutzee> Don't worry about it, as long as you enjoy the game, and are willing to pay for it :)
#2785 [21:19] <esper_gvxgcu> Credit card 2hard
#2786 [21:19] <esper_gvxgcu> Anyway, thanks, I'll be out.
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#2788 [21:20] <agillespie32> minecraft is telling me " log in failed " and not letting me go online and it has recently stopped letting me use LAN
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#2791 [21:21] <minecraft> hey it wont let me on minecraft
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#2793 [21:22] <Rikairchy> are you getting the "bad login" error?
#2794 [21:22] <agillespie32> So do i get answered?
#2795 [21:22] <Rikairchy> if you're getting the "bad login" error it is an issue with the MC auth servers
#2796 [21:23] <minecraft> when i got to log in it and play world it it auto logs me out
#2797 [21:23] <minecraft> plz help i really love this game
#2798 [21:23] <Rikairchy> ??> minecraft crashreport
#2799 [21:24] <Rikairchy> >.> u
#2800 [21:24] <Rikairchy> ??> index
#2801 [21:24] <minecraft> waht you meam
#2802 [21:24] <minecraft> mean
#2803 [21:24] <Rikairchy> ugh VoxelHead why must you be so un user-friendly
#2804 [21:24] <Rikairchy> ??< index
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#2806 [21:24] <Rikairchy> hi otm
#2807 [21:25] <minecraft> i must of click somthing wron
#2808 [21:25] <minecraft> wrong on setting
#2809 [21:26] <minecraft> hello
#2810 [21:27] <minecraft> YOUR NOT HELPING HELLO
#2811 [21:27] <oldtopman> ??> minecraft attitude
#2812 [21:27] <VoxelHead> minecraft: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#2813 [21:27] <VoxelHead> minecraft: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#2814 [21:28] <minecraft> ok sorry i reeally wont to play
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#2816 [21:30] <Rikairchy> minecraft: try a force update
#2817 [21:30] <minecraft> ok
#2818 [21:31] <minecraft> it said somthing with java
#2819 [21:31] <Cam_0007> how can i change my email address for my account? I forgot my emails password and having trouble with google getting a new password
#2820 [21:31] <minecraft> who are you
#2821 [21:31] <Rikairchy> minecraft: did java crash?
#2822 [21:32] <Cam_0007> i have a inecraft acount but i want to change my email to a newer email
#2823 [21:32] <Cam_0007> minecraft*
#2824 [21:32] <Rikairchy> Cam_0007: do you have a mojang account?
#2825 [21:33] <Cam_0007> yes but the migration thingy keeps erroring
#2826 [21:33] <minecraft> i have no idea it said somthing on my dsktop
#2827 [21:33] <Rikairchy> ?? minecraft error/javacrash
#2828 [21:33] <Rikairchy> ??> minecraft error/javacrash
#2829 [21:33] <VoxelHead> minecraft: (error/javacrash) A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment
#2830 [21:33] <VoxelHead> minecraft: (error/javacrash) This error happens when something causes java to become unstable. The usual culprit is lwjgl (and therefore video drivers), however, it can be caused by a broken JVM. Reinstall your video card drivers, and if that fails, run javara and then reinstall java.
#2831 [21:34] <Rikairchy> something like that?
#2832 [21:34] <minecraft> yep that what it said
#2833 [21:34] <Rikairchy> ahh
#2834 [21:34] <Cam_0007> is the mojong migration account the only way to change your email?
#2835 [21:34] <Cam_0007> for your account
#2836 [21:34] <agillespie32> i have the bad login with my MC auth servers how do i fix??????
#2837 [21:34] <Rikairchy> Cam_0007: you may be able to do it from minecraft.net
#2838 [21:35] <Scott> Mojang doesn't permit email address changes.
#2839 [21:35] <Rikairchy> agillespie32: probably by not using so many question marks
#2840 [21:35] <Scott> It's a security measure to prevent people from stealing accounts.
#2841 [21:35] <agillespie32> sry
#2842 [21:35] <minecraft> what do ihave to do
#2843 [21:35] <Rikairchy> minecraft: " The usual culprit is lwjgl (and therefore video drivers), however, it can be caused by a broken JVM. Reinstall your video card drivers, and if that fails, run javara and then reinstall java."
#2844 [21:36] <agillespie32> Where do i go on minecraft.net?
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#2846 [21:36] <Rikairchy> agillespie32:
#2847 [21:36] <Rikairchy> the auth servers are acting funny lately
#2848 [21:36] <Rikairchy> nothing on our end, afaik
#2849 [21:36] <minecraft> how do i reaintall jav
#2850 [21:36] <Cam_0007> it shows the adress but it doesnt have a button or instructions to change my email
#2851 [21:36] <agillespie32> ya my friends is messed up aswell
#2852 [21:36] <Rikairchy> ??> javara
#2853 [21:36] <Rikairchy> ??> agillespie32 javara
#2854 [21:36] <Rikairchy> ugh
#2855 [21:36] <agillespie32> sry whats javara?
#2856 [21:37] <Rikairchy> die voxel.
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#2858 [21:37] <Rikairchy> ??> minecraft win/javara
#2859 [21:37] <VoxelHead> minecraft: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2860 [21:37] <VoxelHead> minecraft: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
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#2862 [21:38] <minecraft> ohh i got it i had to change advance open global
#2863 [21:38] <minecraft> it work
#2864 [21:39] <Rikairchy> ?
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#2866 [21:41] <minecraft> its on minecraft setting
#2867 [21:41] <Cam_0007> can anyone help me?
#2868 [21:41] <minecraft> what you need
#2869 [21:42] <Cam_0007> i talked to you earlier
#2870 [21:42] <Cam_0007> i want to change my email
#2871 [21:42] * Rikairchy is now known as Rikairchy|food
#2872 [21:42] <Cam_0007> but the migration thing keeps erroring
#2873 [21:43] <minecraft> i dont think you can cahnge
#2874 [21:44] * JTR|Away is now known as JTR
#2875 [21:45] <Cam_0007> but on the help button on the minecraft.net takes me to the mojong support center and then i click my email accout changed and then i click the link to migrate my account and then it asks me to put my account info in and then it errors when i press submit
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#2878 [21:46] <RainyMesa> When I try to buy minecraft it gives me this message "Could not load security questions."
#2879 [21:46] <RainyMesa> Any idea what the issue is?
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#2884 [21:49] <Jake_E> Hi
#2885 [21:49] <tyteen4a03> hi
#2886 [21:50] <Jake_E> Im thinking about buying a laptop for minecraft and i had a few questions
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#2889 [21:59] <coastguard1> well in my options menu in the game i turned the screen to full screen and the computer that im using is not built for a full screen game and just goes black so how do i change it back to the little screen
#2890 [21:59] <coastguard1> hello
#2891 [21:59] <tyteen4a03> hi
#2892 [21:59] <tyteen4a03> coastguard1, hang on
#2893 [21:59] <coastguard1> ok
#2894 [21:59] <tyteen4a03> coastguard1, you're on Windows I assume?
#2895 [22:00] <coastguard1> yes windows vista
#2896 [22:00] <tyteen4a03> ??> win/.minecraft
#2897 [22:00] <tyteen4a03> uh
#2898 [22:00] <tyteen4a03> ??> coastguard1 win/.minecraft
#2899 [22:00] <VoxelHead> coastguard1: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#2900 [22:00] <tyteen4a03> coastguard1, from there find a file called options.exe, open it
#2901 [22:01] <coastguard1> ok hold on
#2902 [22:01] <tyteen4a03> coastguard1, then find a line where it says fullscreen:true, change the true to false and save
#2903 [22:01] <tyteen4a03> coastguard1, you should be good to go
#2904 [22:03] <coastguard1> ok thank you so much i would hug you right now
#2905 [22:05] <tyteen4a03> no problem
#2906 [22:05] <coastguard1> ok bye
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#2910 [22:09] <tyteen4a03> .help
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#2915 [22:14] <Helpme> why can't i pick a username it keeps telling me to pick a different one
#2916 [22:15] <Helpme> even if i bullshit letters its keeps telling the username is taken!
#2917 [22:16] <Helpme> what do i do?
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#2920 [22:16] <Helpme> is anyone going to respond?
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#2922 [22:16] <mau5ie> Find one that works, presumably.
#2923 [22:17] <Helpme> NOTHING works
#2924 [22:17] <Joe> I'm trying to get Minecraft but Mojang woun't load security questions and it needs them to be answered
#2925 [22:17] <tyteen4a03> Helpme, Minecraft is played by millions
#2926 [22:17] <tyteen4a03> Joe, try another browser
#2927 [22:17] <Joe> i did
#2928 [22:17] <tyteen4a03> Helpme, make sure you try loads of different combinations, and avoid common names
#2929 [22:18] <Helpme> dude even if i put random letter and number it wont let me
#2930 [22:18] <Helpme> its so irretating
#2931 [22:18] <Helpme> i tried so many names
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#2933 [22:18] <tyteen4a03> Helpme, are you on the Mojang Accounts registration screen or Minecraft screen name select screen?
#2934 [22:19] <Helpme> i bought minecraft and i got an email
#2935 [22:20] <tyteen4a03> Helpme, what combination did you try?
#2936 [22:20] <Helpme> thats saysTo start playing Minecraft you first need to create a profile for it. To do so just follow the link below (if that doesn't work, just copy and paste the link into your browser):
#2937 [22:20] <Helpme> i went to the site
#2938 [22:20] <tyteen4a03> Helpme, alright, so what username combination did you try?
#2939 [22:20] <Helpme> put a ton of name and still nothing works
#2940 [22:20] <Helpme> rapidkiller_99
#2941 [22:20] <Helpme> rapidwarior
#2942 [22:21] <Helpme> killervex
#2943 [22:21] <Helpme> mastervex
#2944 [22:21] <Helpme> and so on
#2945 [22:21] <Helpme> i even put dftyguhj
#2946 [22:21] <Helpme> rdtfyguhj
#2947 [22:21] <Helpme> cfvgjbknlkm
#2948 [22:21] <Helpme> yeah
#2949 [22:21] <Helpme> im that desperate
#2950 [22:21] <Helpme> please help me
#2951 [22:21] <tyteen4a03> rapidkiller_9901 doesn't work?
#2952 [22:22] <Helpme> nope
#2953 [22:22] <tyteen4a03> Helpme, weird
#2954 [22:22] <Helpme> please help me
#2955 [22:22] <tyteen4a03> Helpme, does the screen only allow you to pick a username?
#2956 [22:22] <Helpme> i dont know what to do
#2957 [22:22] <Helpme> yeah
#2958 [22:23] <tyteen4a03> ??> Helpme mojang/email
#2959 [22:23] <VoxelHead> Helpme: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2960 [22:23] <tyteen4a03> Helpme, I think the only way is to email Mojang with your desired name
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#2962 [22:26] <scarash> No matter what combo or letters and numbers i use my username wont change anyway i can fix this
#2963 [22:27] <tyteen4a03> scarash, Mojang does not allow you to change username
#2964 [22:27] <tyteen4a03> scarash, do you mean picking a new username?
#2965 [22:27] <scarash> ya
#2966 [22:27] <tyteen4a03> ??> scarash mojang/email
#2967 [22:27] <VoxelHead> scarash: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2968 [22:27] <tyteen4a03> scarash, please email Mojang with your desired username
#2969 [22:27] <scarash> kk ty
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#2973 [22:29] <Helpme> so should i just wait for the reply?
#2974 [22:30] <Helpme> what should i do next?
#2975 [22:31] <tyteen4a03> Helpme, wait and pray I guess
#2976 [22:32] <Helpme> ok thanks for the help tyteen4a03
#2977 [22:32] <tyteen4a03> no problem
#2978 [22:32] <Helpme> wait
#2979 [22:32] <Helpme> do you work for mojang?
#2980 [22:35] <oldtopman> nope.
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#2983 [22:46] <Moe> What is up with user name selection?? it wont take anthing!!
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#2985 [22:48] <oldtopman> ...we may have a problem
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#2987 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> Houston? Are you there?
#2988 [22:51] <Emp1486> i pursched the premium for minecraft, i download the game where the site says to, i open the file, and i put in my login name and password, and it always comes back login failed, and under the login button it says (not downloaded) how can i fix this and play the game online
#2989 [22:51] <DiskDaemon> Go to the web site, and log in to your account. We can help you to confirm things about your account from thre
#2990 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> https://account.mojang.com/me
#2991 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> Emp1486: Do you see a heading on that page called "My Games" with Minecraft listed in there, with a profile name for yourself?
#2992 [22:53] <Emp1486> ok im logged in
#2993 [22:53] <Emp1486> yes i do
#2994 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> Good, use the same email address and password for logging in to the Minecraft launcher. Do not use your username for logging in.
#2995 [22:54] <Emp1486> ive been using that one, however on the web page the link took me to doesnt have anything under "My Games" its a white blank, and below it it says about redeeming a code, or getting a gift card
#2996 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> Emp1486: Okay, so we have now confirmed that your account is not premium.
#2997 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> Emp1486: What did you use to attempt to pay for the game?
#2998 [22:56] <Emp1486> really? because i have the email confirming the transaction number and the order ID
#2999 [22:56] <Emp1486> i used a visa debt card
#3000 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> Yes, and I have receipts here at home taht say Declined. A transaction number or an oder id is not confirmation of success.
#3001 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> Please contact your bank to find out what happened with the transaction. Commonly they block overseas transactions as a form of protection for yourself, until you grant them permission to do so.
#3002 [22:58] <Emp1486> really? the money is gone from the account
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#3004 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> Then the following article may be of relevance for you - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#3005 [22:59] <jim> how do i contact mojang customer support?
#3006 [22:59] <oldtopman> jim: Type in some text, then press return.
#3007 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> Via the "contact customer support" link in that article.
#3008 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#3010 [23:00] <Emp1486> im in canada, unless the company is over the alantic or pacific ocean it shouldnt be an overseas transaction
#3011 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> Emp1486: Try the country of Sweden.
#3012 [23:00] <Emp1486> oh the company is orginated from sweden, ok
#3013 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> That's why they're called Mojang - pronounced Mo-yang
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#3015 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> From Notch - "moyang" with a hard g and emphasis on the a.
#3016 [23:02] <Emp1486> i see your point, but they have alot of things like that here in north america as well, so i wasnt sure, ill see about calling the bank and getting it sorted out, if i continue to have issues, what would be the best way to gain assistance
#3017 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> Mojang don't do anything in regard to your account until their payment gateway (who are called Moneybookers) tells them about the successful payment. So Moneybookers or your bank would be the ones to get in contact with.
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#3019 [23:04] <Emp1486> how would i contact Moneybookers??
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#3021 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> via the www.moneybookers.com web site - they have a Contact Us section there.
#3022 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> When you purchased Minecraft, the white background area of the screen is what you were seeing from the Moneybookers gateway which handles payments.
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#3027 [23:08] <D3adman5225> when i try to buy minecraft on the website, it says i have not secured my account (but i have) and when i click the button to secure it, it says security questions could not be loaded.
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#3031 [23:11] <DiskDaemon> D3adman5225: That doesn't sound good - please try ... dammit
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#3034 [23:14] <Emp1486> thank you for your help, the transaction will be verified tomorrow morning at 0800, -7 Mountian time
#3035 [23:14] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
#3036 [23:15] <Emp1486> after it is verified, i should be able to download the game and play online correct?
#3037 [23:16] <DiskDaemon> You will be able to download the game once your Mojang account shows that Minecraft is in your list of games that you have paid for.
#3038 [23:17] <Emp1486> ok, awesome, thanks again for your help
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#3040 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> Normally, it takes no more than a minute or two between Moneybookers confirming the successful payment, and them notifying Mojang that it's successful.
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#3045 [23:45] <wartrolll> hey
#3046 [23:45] <wartrolll> do you guys help with java?
#3047 [23:45] <wartrolll> not coding
#3048 [23:53] <Eddie> Hello Mojang employees. I require assistance.
#3049 [23:53] <Eddie> /part
#3050 [23:53] <mau5ie> Sorry, Eddie. We don't provide the kind of help you truly need. :(
#3051 [23:53] <mau5ie> <3
#3052 [23:54] <Eddie> And what exactly o you think I need?
#3053 [23:54] <Eddie> do*
#3054 [23:54] <mau5ie> mental? :3
#3055 [23:54] <Andrio> -> 4[X]
#3056 [23:54] <Eddie> Don't we all?
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#3058 [23:55] <mau5ie> Touché.
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