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#2 [00:05] <warfar1> can somone tell my why java gui's do this? https://www.dropbox.com/s/f2hqe130qaax7ld/Untitled.png?m
#3 [00:07] <DopeGhoti> Becuase Java, like all programming languages, does only and exactly what it's told to do.
#4 [00:07] <warfar1> thats not supose to happen though
#5 [00:08] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: orly? I thought I just put in magick(); and got minecraft out :o
#6 [00:08] <DopeGhoti> Then Java has been programmed in correctly in that case.
#7 [00:08] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: "That might be what Notch thinks."
#8 [00:08] <oldtopman> XD
#9 [00:08] <warfar1> its impossible for me to use any java based apps
#10 [00:08] <warfar1> i get black over icons
#11 [00:09] <DopeGhoti> warfar1: sounds like either a problem with your Java installation, or possibly your GPU drivers.
#12 [00:09] <warfar1> gpu drivers up to date along with java
#13 [00:09] <DopeGhoti> ??> warfar1 win/profile
#14 [00:09] <VoxelHead> warfar1: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#15 [00:09] <VoxelHead> warfar1: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#16 [00:09] <warfar1> oh god
#17 [00:10] <warfar1> logging off...
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#19 [00:10] <warfar1> can i switch user?
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#22 [00:12] <DopeGhoti> warfar1: yes, but it's best to create a new pristine profile first
#23 [00:12] <DopeGhoti> to switch users, press Win+L
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#25 [00:13] <DopeGhoti> (depending upon your envorinment - it must support Fast User Switching)
#26 [00:13] <Afftarius> Hi, can I get some help here?
#27 [00:13] <DopeGhoti> Afftarius: probably, depending upon what you need help with.
#28 [00:14] <warfar1> Alright
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#30 [00:14] <warfar1> it works there
#31 [00:14] <DopeGhoti> warfar1: okay, given that, there is something with your current user profile - a running application, or a profile setting - that's causing the problem.
#32 [00:14] <warfar1> Oh hey
#33 [00:14] <warfar1> it works here too
#34 [00:14] <warfar1> wait
#35 [00:15] <DopeGhoti> it may have been a running application then
#36 [00:15] <warfar1> lemme move it onto my desktop
#37 [00:15] <warfar1> b/c it was in C: when it worked
#38 [00:15] <Afftarius> Okay... In latest PC (windows) version (1.4.5.) If i click left of right mouse button when i move, i stop
#39 [00:15] <warfar1> lol it works now
#40 [00:16] <warfar1> Ohh i see
#41 [00:16] <warfar1> when i allocate ram to it it dont work
#42 [00:16] <warfar1> wait
#43 [00:17] <warfar1> when i use the .bat file of the program it doesnt work
#44 [00:17] <warfar1> the exe works
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#46 [00:18] <Afftarius> And shift+click in inventory, chests etc. doesn't work, only as a click without Shift
#47 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> Afftarius: have you checked for updated mouse drivers, perhaps?
#48 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> or using an alternative mouse?
#49 [00:19] <DopeGhoti> is this, by any chance, a laptop?
#50 [00:19] <Afftarius> Well, it was work on older versions... and I haven't other mouse =\
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#52 [00:21] <DopeGhoti> Other chan checking your mouse drivers, I am not sure what else to suggest.
#53 [00:21] <warfar1> virus scan
#54 [00:21] <Afftarius> Okay, thank you then
#55 [00:22] <Afftarius> but keyboard too? look above
#56 [00:22] <warfar1> virus scan
#57 [00:22] <Afftarius> okay
#58 [00:23] <Afftarius> Thank you:)
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#62 [00:36] <Randy> Where can I download older versions of minecraft? 1.2.5 specifically. Thanks.
#63 [00:36] <warfar1> mcnostalgia
#64 [00:36] <warfar1> or multimc
#65 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_2_5/minecraft.jar
#66 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Or that ^
#67 [00:37] <warfar1> lol
#68 [00:37] <warfar1> never knew they redistributed it
#69 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> They do now
#70 [00:37] <Randy> Thanks, will try this out.
#71 [00:38] <warfar1> multimc is nicer
#72 [00:38] <warfar1> it has all the snapshots and versions available
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#75 [00:47] <alphaecho> how do i save pocket edition game data to transfer to a replacement kindle fire?
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#77 [00:47] <Sigma_> hey
#78 [00:47] <warfar1> connect ur device t o pc
#79 [00:47] <warfar1> turn on storage
#80 [00:48] <warfar1> find the minecraft pocket edition save and download that to it
#81 [00:48] <Sigma_> Is the Mojang site bugged because I tried making a username and everything I put in is saying "taken"
#82 [00:48] <tyteen4a03> Sigma_, yes
#83 [00:48] <Sigma_> Litterally put in random sequences of numbers that were apparently taken
#84 [00:48] <Sigma_> ok
#85 [00:48] <alphaecho> sounds easy warfar1 ...is that it/
#86 [00:48] <alphaecho> ?
#87 [00:48] <warfar1> yeah
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#89 [00:49] <Sigma_> ETA on when it will be fixed?
#90 [00:49] <alphaecho> kk, thx. i'll give it a shot
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#92 [00:49] <tyteen4a03> Sigma_, nope
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#94 [00:50] <tyteen4a03> not even sure if mollstam is notified
#95 [00:50] <Sigma_> :(
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#100 [01:03] <DopeGhoti> !topic /7/is/may be/
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#103 [01:04] <jjacobson89> anybody having issues in creating a profile for minecraft?
#104 [01:05] <DopeGhoti> yep
#105 [01:05] <DopeGhoti> only everyone
#106 [01:05] <jjacobson89> why is it doing that?
#107 [01:05] <DopeGhoti> because something in Sweeden is broken
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#109 [01:05] <DopeGhoti> we don't have any details
#110 [01:05] <jjacobson89> worst timing...
#111 [01:06] <PaladinPete> anyone able to please help figure out this error? http://pastebin.com/Szj68wkV
#112 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> Something with Forge/Modloader.
#113 [01:06] <DopeGhoti> PaladinPete: it looks like you may have some mods installed?
#114 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps a mod is incompatible, or isn't installed correctly?
#115 [01:07] <PaladinPete> yes...that error message from that pastebin is what is showing up in the server console whenever i try to connect to my personal server
#116 [01:07] <DopeGhoti> PaladinPete: do you get errors when you try running a modless server?
#117 [01:07] <PaladinPete> in SSP? no
#118 [01:07] <PaladinPete> oh wait
#119 [01:07] <PaladinPete> i misread the question lol
#120 [01:07] <PaladinPete> derp XD
#121 [01:08] <DopeGhoti> no worries
#122 [01:08] <DopeGhoti> it's understandable at $TIME
#123 [01:10] <PaladinPete> well i did just try connecting to my college's minecraft server...i'm pretty server they run just a plain vanilla server
#124 [01:11] <PaladinPete> so i believe that might be a "no" in regards to the "[Wednesday 01:07:11]21<DopeGhoti>21 PaladinPete: do you get errors when you try running a modless server?" question
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#127 [01:11] <DopeGhoti> Then the problem is almost definitely with the mod or mods involved
#128 [01:11] <DopeGhoti> and / or how they're installed.
#129 [01:12] <PaladinPete> yeah i think so as well
#130 [01:12] <PaladinPete> it was working fine earlier today
#131 [01:12] <PaladinPete> but a couple hours ago i updated a few mods on both my client and server
#132 [01:12] <DopeGhoti> basic causality there then, my friend.
#133 [01:13] <PaladinPete> mainly forge (.426 --> .436), inficraft, optifine (d4 --> d5), and millenaire
#134 [01:14] <jjacobson89> How long has this bug been going on? To not be able to create a profile/account on minecraft
#135 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Day or so
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#171 [02:38] <girl> heelo
#172 [02:38] <girl> hello
#173 [02:39] <girl> i cant open the minecraft program
#174 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> And what happens when you try?
#175 [02:40] <girl> after i login in and it say done loading
#176 [02:40] <girl> then it just stay at the done loading
#177 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Are you trying the demo? Or the full version?
#178 [02:41] <girl> full i have buy the game already
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#180 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried pressing "Force Update" through the launcher's options menu?
#181 [02:41] <girl> no i will try now
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#183 [02:42] <girl> success
#184 [02:42] <girl> thank you
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#187 [02:45] <danshatdanila> !paid girl
#188 [02:45] <danshatdanila> !paid girl
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#190 [02:49] <walkingstickman> i'm having an ungodly hard time trying to get a username that isnt taken
#191 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> It's bugged.
#192 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Nobody can choose a username at the moment.
#193 [02:50] <walkingstickman> auth server down?
#194 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Something like that
#195 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Something went borked
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#197 [02:51] <walkingstickman> so how long's the waiting time I can practice tekkit.
#198 [02:51] <Necrodoom> !paid girl
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#201 [02:52] <Necrodoom> !paid necrodoom
#202 [02:53] <Necrodoom> hm
#203 [02:55] <mau5ie> !paid Anonymau5ie
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#208 [03:05] <mindcat> i want to know
#209 [03:05] <mindcat> what is "item frame" this item, Block ID?
#210 [03:06] <Necrodoom> item
#211 [03:06] <mindcat> or just a item?
#212 [03:06] <Necrodoom> when placed, entity
#213 [03:06] <mindcat> ok...
#214 [03:09] <Andrio> The item is ID 389
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#221 [03:27] <test> hello LL
#222 [03:27] <techno156> hello
#223 [03:27] <techno156> excuse for a sec...
#224 [03:28] <techno156> !paid arcticwolf747
#225 [03:28] <techno156> hm... :|
#226 [03:29] <techno156> Just wondering, is there a bot function here that tells me whether an account is registered or not?
#227 [03:30] <test> may i aks you some questions about minecraft registration?
#228 [03:31] <DiskDaemon> techno156: yes there is
#229 [03:31] <DiskDaemon> !paid Paul_Wilkins
#230 [03:31] <DiskDaemon> test: yes you may
#231 [03:31] <test> a few minutes ago i did a registration on "minecraft.net"
#232 [03:31] <test> i'd like to buy for my son as a christmas gift
#233 [03:32] <techno156> ok...
#234 [03:32] <techno156> hm...
#235 [03:32] <test> now i became the following text
#236 [03:32] <test> Secure your account Error! We need you to secure your account before you can proceed. Could not load security questions.
#237 [03:32] <techno156> ??>> oldversion techno156
#238 [03:32] <test> whta do i have to do?
#239 [03:32] <techno156> ??>> techno156 oldversion
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#241 [03:33] <techno156> ??>> techno156 oldversion/list
#242 [03:33] <DiskDaemon> test: It seems that you have to purchase the game from Mojang.
#243 [03:35] <test> this is the answer/error that i became, if i try to bye the game from Mojang. any other suggestion?
#244 [03:36] <DiskDaemon> test: I believe that what you saw is in regard to setting up the 3 secret question/answers for your account
#245 [03:36] <test> yes
#246 [03:36] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#247 [03:37] <test> thx from germany
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#253 [03:50] <PaveLiArcH> i'm trying to buy minecraft
#254 [03:50] <PaveLiArcH> but
#255 [03:50] <PaveLiArcH> i've got «Could not load security questions.»
#256 [03:51] <PaveLiArcH> and it gives me an attention «Your account has not been secured. Securing your account will help protect you from unauthorized use of your purchased Mojang games.»
#257 [03:52] <PaveLiArcH> Did anyone expirienced such a problem?
#258 [03:52] <DiskDaemon> test: I believe that what you saw is in regard to setting up the 3 secret question/answers for your account
#259 [03:52] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#260 [03:52] <PaveLiArcH> ookay
#261 [03:52] <PaveLiArcH> i'm in https://account.mojang.com/me/settings
#262 [03:53] <PaveLiArcH> clicking «edit» an «Security questions»
#263 [03:53] <PaveLiArcH> and it gives me message «Could not load security questions.»
#264 [03:53] <DiskDaemon> PaveLiArcH: Yes, that is a problem - please contact Mojang customer support
#265 [03:54] <PaveLiArcH> thanks
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#267 [03:55] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: makes me wonder what isnt broken
#268 [03:57] <DiskDaemon> This one at least is something that will be easily noticed by them, due to the decline in the number of new purchases
#269 [03:57] <Necrodoom> and that fact you cant make new accounts, auth servers being on/off for atleast a week
#270 [03:58] <Necrodoom> and minecraft.net falling regulary
#271 [03:58] <DiskDaemon> Maybe they figured that what with having had 8 million purchases, that that's enough for them
#272 [03:58] <Necrodoom> yeah, seems mojang completely stopped caring
#273 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> No - I shouldn't promolgulate that type of thinking
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#275 [03:59] <Necrodoom> i dont think ive ever seen someone say he got a response from mojang
#276 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: The thousands of email replies that Mojang give each and every day, speak strongly against that idea
#277 [04:00] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: someone said he got an email response?
#278 [04:00] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: People come to this channel when they have a problem. When their problem is solved, the go and play the game. They don't come to the problems channel.
#279 [04:02] <Necrodoom> basically, im still looking for response from customer support about a friend of mine
#280 [04:02] <DiskDaemon> What is the date/time that you sent it?
#281 [04:02] <Necrodoom> 5 months ago, 3 months ago, and a week ago
#282 [04:03] <Necrodoom> friend tried to buy account, charged, still returns not premium
#283 [04:03] <DiskDaemon> Hrm - this is fun http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#284 [04:04] <Necrodoom> lol
#285 [04:04] <DiskDaemon> Ahh - the article about issues with security questions http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/886837-security-new-usernames-gift-codes
#286 [04:04] <Necrodoom> also: amazing article: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/887001-----------------------------------------
#287 [04:05] <DiskDaemon> "It is not necessary to notify customer support" - dammit - they noticed :)
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#290 [04:07] <Necrodoom> hm, demo still requires premium to work according to FAQ
#291 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> Officially the launcher-based demo does require premium to work. Unofficially the launcher-demo works after you've loaded the website demo.
#292 [04:08] <Necrodoom> i wonder why they didnt mention that
#293 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> Because once the launcher-demo can be used, you can attempt to log in while offline and play the full game. That's bad.
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#300 [04:25] <snafu> hello again
#301 [04:25] <DiskDaemon> Hi there
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#303 [04:26] <snafu> i am the user "test" a few minutes ago...
#304 [04:26] <snafu> my problem is still there (register and bye minecraft)
#305 [04:27] <DiskDaemon> This article about the security questions issue will answer things for you http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/886837-security-new-usernames-gift-codes
#306 [04:28] <snafu> ok - i will try it the other day again - cu
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#309 [04:32] <Paulo> hi ppl
#310 [04:32] <Paulo> i have a problem
#311 [04:32] <Paulo> i recently buy minecraft
#312 [04:32] <Paulo> now i try choose a Profile name
#313 [04:32] <Paulo> and say Profile name is taken
#314 [04:33] <Paulo> even a name like 342_desa_345
#315 [04:33] <Paulo> can someone please help me?
#316 [04:33] <Paulo> thanks
#317 [04:33] <DiskDaemon> This article will help to answer things for you http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/886837-security-new-usernames-gift-codes
#318 [04:35] <Paulo> nice... really thanks DiskDaemon
#319 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#320 [04:35] <Paulo> 'll be notified when it is standardized?
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#325 [04:38] <Paulo> sorry again... we will be notified when it is standardized?
#326 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> It will work again when it is fixed.
#327 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> Information about when it will be fixed is not known at this stage. It is to be as soon as possible though.
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#334 [04:49] <bliss> Does anyone happen to when I could be able to make a username? I just bought the game a few hours ago and I'm still unable to make a username to even play.
#335 [04:49] <DiskDaemon> This article will help to answer things for you http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/886837-security-new-usernames-gift-codes
#336 [04:50] <bliss> Ahh I see, thanks. I hope the issue is fixed soon!
#337 [05:01] <Paulo> Fixed ppl
#338 [05:01] <Paulo> :)
#339 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> Hurray - enjoy :)
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#351 [05:11] <bliss> its fixed? o:
#352 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> That's what I've been told
#353 [05:12] <bliss> Well I suppose I should go find out!
#354 [05:12] <bliss> YES! It works finally haha. Day has been made.
#355 [05:17] <Morrolan> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/886837-security-new-usernames-gift-codes could have sworn we've seen the first "can't access security questions" pop up a few days ago already...
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#357 [05:18] <Morrolan> Oh, I love the way in which they added horizontal lines... http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/235497-current-topics/articles
#358 [05:19] <DiskDaemon> Heh - trying to get people's attention :)
#359 [05:19] <Morrolan> Mhm.
#360 [05:20] <Jhwarby> Guys, there's noone at bukkit or bukkit help again...
#361 [05:20] <Morrolan> There's >470 people in #bukkit.
#362 [05:21] <Jhwarby> Noone's answering tho.
#363 [05:21] <Morrolan> It's IRC, get used to it.
#364 [05:21] <Morrolan> And that sounded more harsh than it was meant.
#365 [05:21] * Jhwarby cries.
#365 [05:21] <Morrolan> But if you want help on IRC, you'll have to be prepared to wait an hour or two. Only very few channels are active enough to provide support within a few minutes.
#366 [05:22] * DiskDaemon licks up the salty tears of goodness
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#367 [05:24] <Morrolan> Well, leaving is a foolproof way of not getting an answer. I had thought he'd know that. *grins*
#368 [05:25] <DiskDaemon> dis-satisfaction guaranteed :)
#369 [05:26] <Morrolan> Followed by ranting about how much support sucks.
#370 [05:26] <Morrolan> All in all, none's happier than before. Yay.
#371 [05:27] <Necrodoom> didnt he just get support on #bukkithelp
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#373 [05:27] <Morrolan> Oh, that might be. I'm not on there, so I wouldn't know. :)
#374 [05:28] <Morrolan> I also just noticed him querying me with his error message. Either MultiInv is suddendly requiring additional libraries, or the .jar he's using is borked.
#375 [05:30] * DiskDaemon engages the swedish chef for his world-renown solution providing techniques, as seen on the muppet show
#375 [05:31] <DiskDaemon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_Yf4zz-yo
#376 [05:31] <VoxelHead> Swedish Chef - Meatballs ( by talltom3000 )
#377 [05:49] * Rikairchy|food pokes DiskDaemon
#377 [05:49] * Lutzee prefers HowToBasic
#377 [05:49] <DiskDaemon> hola
#378 [05:50] <Rikairchy|food> how've you been?
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#382 [05:50] <DiskDaemon> Feeling better now that the meds are all finished. I'll be feeling physically better after around 2-3 weeks have passed too
#383 [05:51] <Rikairchy> meds for?
#384 [05:51] <DiskDaemon> It's a clinical trial to treat (cure) hepatitis C via a pill-only based treatment
#385 [05:52] <Rikairchy> oh wow
#386 [05:52] <Rikairchy> what are the chances for complete irradication?
#387 [05:52] <DiskDaemon> I had a viral load of over 12 million. After 1 week that was down to 731, and after week two it's below the minimum possible reading of 15, so non-detectable from then on.
#388 [05:53] <Rikairchy> oh my
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#391 [05:54] <DiskDaemon> So now that I've had 12 weeks of treatment, the remaining 48 weeks are going to be monitoring over increasingly longer periods (fortnightly, monthly, 3-monthly) to see how things track from there. The aim is for it to stay gone.
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#396 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> Congrats DiskDaemon.
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#399 [06:03] <DiskDaemon> Thanks - it's been an interesting 12 weeks. The worst of it was making plans for a second dinner at around 8pm for when taking the evening meds. When you're heading out to events and functions every other night that can become something of a trial :)
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#406 [06:22] <y007shy> Can you help me??
#407 [06:22] <y007shy> I bought the minecraft but it's not working
#408 [06:23] <DiskDaemon> Why? Do you need more memory or something?
#409 [06:24] <y007shy> Are you a member of Minecraft staff?
#410 [06:24] <DiskDaemon> Everyone who helps here are volunteers that are not paid by Mojang to provide such help. I am in New Zealand, for exampler
#411 [06:24] <y007shy> I bought the game and set the user name but I can't login to minecraft.
#412 [06:24] <y007shy> oh ya thanks.
#413 [06:25] <y007shy> but it can be resolved by minecraft agent.
#414 [06:25] <y007shy> can you notify me where can I send the request to Mojang?
#415 [06:25] <y007shy> I can't find any support Email.
#416 [06:25] <DiskDaemon> When you go to https://account.mojang.com/me do you see the "My Games" section?
#417 [06:26] <y007shy> no I can't
#418 [06:26] <y007shy> but I really bought the game
#419 [06:26] <y007shy> I have the receipt
#420 [06:26] <DiskDaemon> So you have attempted to purchase the game, but the purchase doesn't seem to be successful.
#421 [06:26] <y007shy> yea that's it
#422 [06:26] <DiskDaemon> I have receipts from the local dairy that say "declined" too. A receipt doesn't mean success.
#423 [06:27] <DiskDaemon> Let's see if we can find out the cause of the problem.
#424 [06:27] <y007shy> please.
#425 [06:27] <y007shy> Thank you.
#426 [06:27] <DiskDaemon> What did you use when attempting to pay for Minecraft?
#427 [06:27] <y007shy> by paypal
#428 [06:28] <DiskDaemon> Okay, so go to your Paypal account. You should find a record of the payment there, with information about it.
#429 [06:28] <y007shy> yea sure
#430 [06:29] <y007shy> I already paid it
#431 [06:29] <y007shy> and I also made the username
#432 [06:30] <y007shy> but it's not appeared to Minecraft.net
#433 [06:30] <DiskDaemon> y007shy: Your account is with mojang.com - not with minecraft.net - please learn to understand the difference
#434 [06:30] <y007shy> the email account should be changed to username . but it wasn't
#435 [06:31] <y007shy> I know that
#436 [06:31] <DiskDaemon> y007shy: You do not log in to Minecraft with your username now. When your account is with mojang.com you always log in with your email address instead.
#437 [06:31] <DiskDaemon> Even when logging in to the Minecraft launcher
#438 [06:32] <y007shy> I know that, but I already set the username but, I can't logint minecraft using my mojang account
#439 [06:33] <DiskDaemon> Let us start all over again then. When you go to https://account.mojang.com/me do you see the "My Games" section?
#440 [06:34] * worldmc|off is now known as worldmc
#441 [06:34] <y007shy> there is just this message : Did you know that if you've already bought Minecraft you can import your existing profile into this account?
#442 [06:35] <y007shy> I 'm seeing that "My games"
#443 [06:35] <DiskDaemon> y007shy: Because you cannot see Minecraft listed on that page, you are not allowed to login via the Minecraft launcher.
#444 [06:35] <DiskDaemon> You will only be allowed to login via the Minecraft launcher when your account shows that you have paid for the game.
#445 [06:37] <y007shy> I already paid !
#446 [06:37] <DiskDaemon> But your account does not currently show that you have paid for the game. Correct?
#447 [06:38] <y007shy> yes now...
#448 [06:39] <y007shy> but some time agao , I could make the username, so I set .
#449 [06:39] <DiskDaemon> You said before that you created a username. Currently you are only allowed to do that once your account shows that you have paid for the game. Did you really create a username?
#450 [06:39] <y007shy> but after then, this happened.
#451 [06:39] <y007shy> yes !
#452 [06:40] <y007shy> so I said, you can't solve this problem
#453 [06:40] <DiskDaemon> y007shy: Your paypal transaction will have a transaction id. Please get that transaction id and then contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#454 [06:40] <y007shy> if you know the support Email address, please send me
#455 [06:40] <DiskDaemon> Already way ahead of you :)
#456 [06:40] <y007shy> Thank you for helping
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#458 [06:41] <y007shy> do you know, how much time take to receive the answer?
#459 [06:42] <Jhwarby> It takes a while ^^
#460 [06:42] <Jhwarby> :P
#461 [06:42] <Jhwarby> What's your question?
#462 [06:42] <DiskDaemon> It was around 3 months, but has since improved to around 10 days
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#464 [06:43] <DiskDaemon> They plan to finish getting through the backlog of emails shortly and have a 1-2 business day response time. But currently it's around 10 days
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#465 [06:44] <Jhwarby> Hey guys, I'm having trouble configuring MySQL
#466 [06:44] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, you might have better luck over at #mysql at freenode, but we can try
#467 [06:44] <y007shy> Thank you.
#468 [06:44] * frdmn is now known as frdmn|afk
#469 [06:44] <Jhwarby> Oh cool.
#470 [06:45] <Jhwarby> I didn't know they had a channel
#471 [06:45] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, popular opensource software usually have a channel over at freenode
#472 [06:45] <Jhwarby> It's just that at serverminer (the people who host my server) they don't give me a port or a database name.
#473 [06:45] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, port should be 3306
#474 [06:45] * frdmn|afk is now known as frdmn
#475 [06:45] <Jhwarby> Yeah, I left that as it was
#476 [06:45] <tyteen4a03> database name, you'll have to refer to your activation email or something
#477 [06:46] <DiskDaemon> Wouldn't serverminer be the people to contact about that then?
#478 [06:46] <Jhwarby> I did, but they take forever to answer.
#479 [06:46] <Jhwarby> :P
#480 [06:46] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, take the hint and switch
#481 [06:46] <Jhwarby> Actually, let me just ty something
#482 [06:46] <Jhwarby> try*
#483 [06:46] <Jhwarby> It says "Name" and I think that might refer to being the database name.
#484 [06:47] <Jhwarby> Jhwarby, away!
#485 [06:47] <y007shy> do you know the reason that the Transaction ID on receipt Email and the Transaction ID on paypal account are not match. They are not same ID ... is it maybe a reason of that ??
#486 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> y007shy: I'd pass both of them over to Mojang, and give them as full of an explanation of things as possible
#487 [06:49] <y007shy> oh ya..
#488 [06:49] <y007shy> Thank you
#489 [06:49] <y007shy> I will
#490 [06:49] <Jhwarby> Ok, so in the essentials config file, it says jdbc:mysql://(I have put my host name here):3306/minecraft
#491 [06:49] <Jhwarby> Oh damn
#492 [06:49] <Jhwarby> Ignore the face
#493 [06:49] <Jhwarby> -_-
#494 [06:49] <Jhwarby> Anyways, where do I put the database name?
#495 [06:50] <Jhwarby> jdbc?
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#497 [06:50] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, again, you'll have to ask your provider
#498 [06:51] <tyteen4a03> also for host name, it's probably just localhost
#499 [06:51] <Jhwarby> I'll try jdbc and see what happens.
#500 [06:51] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, not jdbc
#501 [06:51] <Jhwarby> No, I have a host name.
#502 [06:51] <tyteen4a03> it's the protocol
#503 [06:52] <Jhwarby> I'll go try freenode
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#506 [07:02] <y007shy> Thank you DiskDaemon , I sent the requst to Mojang.com
#507 [07:02] <y007shy> Have a good day :)
#508 [07:02] <y007shy> Good bye !
#509 [07:02] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#521 [07:56] <Rikairchy> DiskDaemon:
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#523 [07:56] <Rikairchy> is it just a supressant, or is it removing the virus?
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#532 [08:34] <Guest4779> Umm, guys, it keeps telling me to choose a new nick...
#533 [08:34] <Guest4779> OMG
#534 [08:34] <Guest4779> Ok, so I am now Guest4779?
#535 [08:35] <Andrio> Unless you pick something else, it seems so.
#536 [08:35] <Andrio> 'James' is taken.
#537 [08:35] <Guest4779> I try Jhwarby
#538 [08:35] <Guest4779> Because that is my account name
#539 [08:35] <Guest4779> But I CAN'T
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#542 [08:36] <Jhwarby> Ahh, better.
#543 [08:36] <Jhwarby> :)
#544 [08:36] <Andrio> It looks as if you had two clients open -_-
#545 [08:36] <Jhwarby> Now, why can I not connect to MySQL?
#546 [08:36] <Jhwarby> o.o
#547 [08:37] <Jhwarby> I only had one tab open.
#548 [08:37] <Jhwarby> I tried irc.freenode.net
#549 [08:37] <Jhwarby> Is that right?
#550 [08:38] <Andrio> hm?
#551 [08:38] <Andrio> This isn't freenode.net
#552 [08:38] <Jhwarby> I know
#553 [08:38] <Jhwarby> I tried freenode.net
#554 [08:38] <Andrio> And this isn't the channel for IRC help either; that's #help .
#555 [08:39] <Jhwarby> -_-
#556 [08:40] <Andrio> I don't use MySQL though, so I probably can't help you. You may want to be more specific though.
#557 [08:41] <Jhwarby> brb
#558 [08:41] <Jhwarby> I'll tell you the story in a sec
#559 [08:44] * Contex|Away is now known as Contex
#560 [08:47] <Jhwarby> Ok, so I tried connecting to essentials with the MySQL database, I already have all of the details, but one line stumped me:
#561 [08:47] <Jhwarby> mysqlDb: 'jdbc:mysql://46.105.121.139:3306/minecraft'
#562 [08:47] <Jhwarby> Ignore the face
#563 [08:47] <Jhwarby> 46.105 etc etc is my host.
#564 [08:47] <Jhwarby> 3306 is the default port
#565 [08:47] <Jhwarby> Because I don't have a port
#566 [08:48] <Jhwarby> Where do I put my database name though?
#567 [08:49] <Andrio> That sounds like a question for #essentials
#568 [08:49] <Jhwarby> Ok...
#569 [08:49] <Jhwarby> brb then.
#570 [08:56] * frdmn|afk is now known as frdmn
#571 [09:00] <Necrodoom> Jhwarby: coreprotect =/= essentialsprotect
#572 [09:00] <Necrodoom> at all.
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#575 [09:07] <tyteen4a03> hi
#576 [09:09] <Jhwarby> Yeah, I just figured that out Necrodoom ^^
#577 [09:09] <Jhwarby> I finished MySQLing
#578 [09:10] <Jhwarby> For everything
#579 [09:10] <Jhwarby> And no errors :)
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#581 [09:10] <Jhwarby> Now, what the hell is MySQL anyways?
#582 [09:11] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, a RDBMS
#583 [09:12] <Jhwarby> What is an RDBMS?
#584 [09:13] <ChauffeR> running dumb beard [with] manly specs
#585 [09:14] <Jhwarby> Thanks a lot, that solves everything!
#586 [09:14] <Jhwarby> I KNOW WHO I AM NOW!
#587 [09:15] <Jhwarby> Seriously, I only did this thing because osmeone told me about it, I have no idea what it is.
#588 [09:15] <Jhwarby> someone*
#589 [09:16] <Jhwarby> Is it an R---- Database B----- M------ Service?
#590 [09:17] <Jhwarby> A relational database management system.
#591 [09:17] <Jhwarby> o.o
#592 [09:18] <Jhwarby> So it's a thing that manages all of the plugins or something?
#593 [09:21] * worldmc|off is now known as worldmc
#594 [09:21] <Jhwarby> ?
#595 [09:21] <Jhwarby> Anyone...
#596 [09:25] * worldmc is now known as worldmc|off
#597 [09:32] <ChauffeR> mysql manages all the plugins
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#614 [10:26] <milangyilok> how can i change my username after i registered to mojang because my minecraft username is my emailadress and i cant change is!!
#615 [10:27] <Morrolan> After you bought the game, you'll be sent a link to choose your ingame username.
#616 [10:27] <milangyilok> thank you
#617 [10:27] <Morrolan> :)
#618 [10:27] <milangyilok> so i can change is after i bought it?
#619 [10:28] <Morrolan> Yes.
#620 [10:30] <milangyilok> thanks
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#632 [11:26] <Dark_Prince> Hello, so I logged on to my server today and all our items were reset. I'm trying to open up the files in INVEDIT and I get a "System.IO.InvalidDataException: The magic number in GZip header is not correct"
#633 [11:26] <Dark_Prince> Any ideas?
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#642 [11:40] <Morrolan> Dark_Prince - Seems for some reason the .DAT file got corrupted, then. You could try to open it with other tools, see whether they can make sense of it.
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#646 [11:46] <_SpI> morrolan
#647 [11:46] <_SpI> can you help me?
#648 [11:46] <Morrolan> Just ask in here, someone will help you, sooner or later.
#649 [11:47] <_SpI> ok
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#651 [11:47] <_SpI> i have bought the game and i started typing in my username
#652 [11:48] <_SpI> i was at the half of it and i pressed enter but i didnt wanted to
#653 [11:48] <_SpI> and my name is that and i dont know what to do
#654 [11:48] <_SpI> and i cant change it
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#656 [11:49] <Morrolan> Contact Mojang about it, send them an e-mail through here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#657 [11:49] <Morrolan> (And be prepared to wait two weeks for an answer, since they're kinda behind.)
#658 [11:49] <_SpI> will they change it?
#659 [11:49] <Morrolan> No clue, but it can't hurt to ask.
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#675 [12:00] <djhannzirc> hi, a lot of my players (and me) are having "overflow" error when they connect to my FTB server, is this a minecraft login server problem?
#676 [12:03] <Morrolan> Doubtful.
#677 [12:03] <Morrolan> What's the exact error message, though?
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#679 [12:05] <djhannzirc> From the client: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
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#683 [12:08] <djhannzirc> on the server: java.net.SocketException: Socket closed
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#686 [12:09] <Morrolan> And where's the "overflow" in those error messages? ;)
#687 [12:09] <djhannzirc> shall i pastebin the messages? :)
#688 [12:10] <Morrolan> Either way, they don't look as if they're caused by Mojang's auth server. (The fact that we don't get flooded witth "why does it not work" also speaks against it.)
#689 [12:10] <Morrolan> Something seems to be killing the connection. Might be a firewall, or a bug in this mod you're using.
#690 [12:11] <djhannzirc> ok, trying to find out which one is a problem, seems a lot of people are having the same problem on my server
#691 [12:11] <Lord_Ralex> what is the view-distance set as?
#692 [12:11] <Lord_Ralex> lowering that can help with that issue
#693 [12:11] <djhannzirc> its set to 5
#694 [12:11] <Lord_Ralex> that is actually kinda low
#695 [12:12] <Lord_Ralex> yeah, please pastebin the message/error
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#697 [12:13] <djhannzirc> here they are: http://pastebin.com/e37TUvwc
#698 [12:13] <djhannzirc> back in a bit.
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#703 [12:26] <marcuz> hello can some one help me?
#704 [12:26] <Calinou> yes, don't ask to ask
#705 [12:27] <marcuz> ok iv download minecraft from minecraft.net and when i try and install the downloader filer it freezes and i dont know what to do
#706 [12:30] <ChauffeR> let's try again!
#707 [12:30] <marcuz> sorry files you see i run very bad internet its EDGE so i dont get better than 200kbs at most does that matter
#708 [12:31] <ChauffeR> after a while I get terrain.png mobs/chests, sometimes invisible mobs, parts like legs/head of a mob replaced with terrain.png or invisible, what to do?
#709 [12:31] <Calinou> marcuz: do you use AVG? if so disable "link scanner"
#710 [12:31] <ChauffeR> I tried openjdk, java6, java7, updated lwjgl
#711 [12:31] <marcuz> i dont have a antivirus brb
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#713 [12:34] <marcuz> ok sorry calinou im back
#714 [12:37] <marcuz> do you need very good internet to download the installer files for minecraft?
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#717 [12:38] <FLHerne> marcuz: The installer isn't very big at all, but it then downloads a load of toher stuff
#718 [12:39] <FLHerne> Which might take quite some time at 200kbps
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#724 [12:47] <djhannzirc> back, is the error generic or just caused by a mod?
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#726 [12:47] <Calinou> ?? mods
#727 [12:47] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#728 [12:47] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#729 [12:47] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#731 [12:48] <marc_stefan> ok hello i downloaded the minecraft.exe from minecraft.net now when i try and update it or download the game files it freezes my internet i have bad internet so could that be the case?
#732 [12:50] <marc_stefan> i have also tried downloading different versions it still does not work any ideas?
#733 [12:51] <marc_stefan> could someone help me?
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#735 [12:53] <marc_stefan> calinou its me marcuz i just used my minecraft sign in that why my name is diffrent
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#737 [12:56] <marc_stefan> HELLO?????!!!!!!!!!!!!
#738 [12:58] <marc_stefan> sorry for that its just i really would like to play minecraft and no1 is helping me
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#740 [13:00] <marc_stefan> can some1 please answer me beacuse iv been trying to install this for a while now and it still doesnt work
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#751 [13:29] <Rikairchy> hm
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#756 [13:45] <DopeGhoti> !topic >>> Happy 12/12/12!
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#760 [13:50] <Morrolan> Heh, that syntax.
#761 [13:51] <Calinou> you don't disable metro, you switch to the classic interface ;)
#762 [13:51] <Calinou> blame windows 8 for not letting you disable metro for real
#763 [13:51] <Calinou> also it's called Modern UI
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#765 [13:52] <Eddie> Metro was taken by someone else and decided to sue late, for money I suppose. They all do that.
#766 [13:54] <Calinou> metro is some german company that sells stuff to companies
#767 [13:54] <Calinou> metro is a trademark
#768 [13:55] <Eddie> Metro is a supermarket here
#769 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> Metro is the public transit system in Montreal.
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#771 [13:57] <Calinou> lol
#772 [13:57] <zRecoilz> Guys
#773 [13:57] <zRecoilz> I got a problem
#774 [13:57] <zRecoilz> I BIG PROBLEM
#775 [13:57] <Calinou> don't ask to ask
#776 [13:57] <Calinou> ask away
#777 [13:58] <zRecoilz> Well i forgot my Password to my Minecraft account and so i tried to send i reset password to my e-mail but i forgot the e-mail
#778 [13:58] <zRecoilz> what can i do ?
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#782 [13:59] <zRecoilz> Well i forgot my Password to my Minecraft account and so i tried to send a reset password to my e-mail but i forgot the e-mail
#783 [13:59] <zRecoilz> Well i forgot my Password to my Minecraft account and so i tried to send a reset password to my e-mail but i forgot the e-mail
#784 [13:59] <zRecoilz> Well i forgot my Password to my Minecraft account and so i tried to send a reset password to my e-mail but i forgot the e-mail
#785 [13:59] <zRecoilz> How can i get it back ?
#786 [13:59] <oldtopman> ??> zRecoilz dont/spam
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#788 [13:59] <oldtopman> zRecoilz: Please don't spam.
#789 [14:00] <Lutzee> ?? scold/spam
#790 [14:00] <VoxelHead> scold/spam: We can hear you just fine, and your text does not disappear automagically. Please do not spam the same thing over and over again.
#791 [14:00] <oldtopman> Lutzee: Would it kill people to leave the prefixes the same?
#792 [14:00] <oldtopman> :U
#793 [14:00] <Lutzee> I thought that :P
#794 [14:00] <zRecoilz> So dose anyone know how i can get it back ? anyone help me ?
#795 [14:00] <Morrolan> oldtopman - Yes. :(
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#797 [14:00] <zRecoilz> Like is there a help line i can call ?
#798 [14:01] <Morrolan> oldtopman - Mind you, for every prefix which doesn't get changed in a month, a kitten dies.
#799 [14:01] <Morrolan> zRecoilz - You'll have to contact Mojang about that.
#800 [14:01] <Morrolan> ?? email/new
#801 [14:01] <sugoi> zRecoilz: view email
#802 [14:01] <Morrolan> Nope, not it.
#803 [14:01] <sugoi> via*
#804 [14:01] <Morrolan> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new is the link where you can send a new e-mail.
#805 [14:02] <zRecoilz> How can i contact Mojang ? is there a place where i can Call them
#806 [14:02] <Morrolan> Provide them with your transaction ID, explain your issue, tell them what e-mail they should change it to, send the e-mail, wait two weeks.
#807 [14:02] <zRecoilz> Dammit ! The Card i used the Buy my minecraft account with is Expired
#808 [14:02] <zRecoilz> i dont use it
#809 [14:02] <zRecoilz> so that adds to my problems
#810 [14:02] <Morrolan> You'll still have the bills somewhere.
#811 [14:02] <zRecoilz> :(
#812 [14:02] <Morrolan> If not, contact the credit card provider. *shrug*
#813 [14:03] <zRecoilz> ok
#814 [14:03] <Morrolan> They store them for a year or two.
#815 [14:03] <zRecoilz> ok good
#816 [14:03] <Lutzee> zRecoilz: do you still have the physical card?
#817 [14:03] <zRecoilz> no
#818 [14:03] <zRecoilz> is there a number i can call
#819 [14:04] <Morrolan> Yes, your credit card provider's.
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#821 [14:05] <zRecoilz> No i mean like dose Mojang have a customer Support number ?
#822 [14:05] <Morrolan> No.
#823 [14:05] <Morrolan> Even if they did, they wouldn't do anything as long as you can't prove that you do own the account.
#824 [14:05] <zRecoilz> W
#825 [14:06] <zRecoilz> Well i kinda can prove im the owner, i know all the old passwords and Emails for it and what servers its been on
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#827 [14:06] <sugoi> zRecoilz: among those details, they'd only be able to confirm emails
#828 [14:06] <Morrolan> Oh, if your account is migrated, and you set your security questions, you can change your e-mail at https://account.mojang.com/changeemail/request btw.
#829 [14:07] <Morrolan> Though given that this feature was added recently, chances are you didn't set it up yet.
#830 [14:07] <zRecoilz> its so annoying, i know parts of my current email and password but dont know it for sure
#831 [14:08] <zRecoilz> ik my password has woo in it and my email is zrecoilz in it
#832 [14:08] <sugoi> zRecoilz: you can provide to mojang date of purchase, transaction id, email, account name, and anything else they specifically ask for
#833 [14:09] <Morrolan> Why don't you just dig up the transaction ID, and be done with it?
#834 [14:09] <sugoi> if a part of that is missing, try anyway, mojang might still be able to unambiguously verify you
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#836 [14:10] <sugoi> zRecoilz: note that passwords don't mean anything, really - they aren't stored in a readable format
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#838 [14:10] <zRecoilz> Because im not conforitable giving my Transaction ID
#839 [14:10] <Morrolan> Right.
#840 [14:10] <sugoi> zRecoilz: don't give it to us
#841 [14:10] <sugoi> zRecoilz: give it to mojang
#842 [14:10] <Morrolan> You gave us part of your e-mail address and password, but are worried about giving Mojang your transaction ID?
#843 [14:10] <zRecoilz> i know who to give it to but still
#844 [14:11] <sugoi> Morrolan: +1
#845 [14:11] * Morrolan giggles
#845 [14:11] <sugoi> zRecoilz: still what?
#846 [14:11] <Lutzee> zRecoilz: have you changed the email on the account before?
#847 [14:11] <sugoi> honestly, if you have it, why is this even a discussion!?!?
#848 [14:11] <zRecoilz> yes
#849 [14:11] <zRecoilz> and i only gave you a part of the email and password not all of
#850 [14:11] <zRecoilz> iit
#851 [14:12] <Lutzee> zRecoilz: if you have access to an older email, the support team will reset the email address on the system back to that and will send a password reset email to that account
#852 [14:12] <Lutzee> But only if the email is on the system
#853 [14:12] <Morrolan> Yes, but giving the public even parts of password and e-mail address is much more dangerous than providing MOjang with your transaction ID.
#854 [14:12] <zRecoilz> Oh Perfect
#855 [14:12] <Morrolan> Your transaction ID, which only identifies a transaction, and which they can look up.
#856 [14:12] <Morrolan> Oh well.
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#861 [14:21] <Rikairchy> hi guys
#862 [14:22] <sugoi> Rikairchy: hi
#863 [14:22] <Rikairchy> sup sugoi
#864 [14:23] <sugoi> emails, compiling, stuff
#865 [14:25] <tech-1> ?
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#867 [14:25] <tech-1> oh you do java ?
#868 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> I prefer tea.
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#870 [14:25] <Morrolan> One can compile languages other than Java, too. :<
#871 [14:26] <sugoi> thankfully, i do not
#872 [14:26] <tech-1> k
#873 [14:26] <tech-1> me its java
#874 [14:26] <tech-1> i love it
#875 [14:26] <sugoi> c++ and sometimes c#
#876 [14:26] <tech-1> c# is for web site
#877 [14:26] <sugoi> haha
#878 [14:26] <sugoi> ok :)
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#880 [14:26] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - Tea? With your pinkie being all stretched away? :D
#881 [14:26] <tech-1> c++ is machine
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#883 [14:27] <tech-1> but i still prefer java
#884 [14:27] <tech-1> can be both
#885 [14:27] <sugoi> tech-1: i worked in c# for ~4 years without a line of code for a website
#886 [14:27] <tech-1> :)
#887 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: only when there's a string from a tea bag which needs carpal support.
#888 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> metacarpal, rather.
#889 [14:27] <Morrolan> Ah, I see.
#890 [14:27] <tech-1> at the start c# is made for web applications
#891 [14:28] <tech-1> your tool was surely using internet
#892 [14:28] <sugoi> asp.net is made for web applications, and i could say the same for java
#893 [14:28] <sugoi> but you are welcome to think otherwise
#894 [14:28] <tech-1> asp and php
#895 [14:28] <tech-1> are both language too
#896 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> asp.net is Java for people who don't like interoperability.
#897 [14:28] <tech-1> php is free and asp is expencive
#898 [14:28] <sugoi> tech-1: my tool used no internet service, actually
#899 [14:28] <sugoi> and it was a couple of projects
#900 [14:28] <tech-1> strange
#901 [14:29] <sugoi> asp is also free, windows sdk download has a cs compiler
#902 [14:29] <sugoi> also, mono
#903 [14:29] <tech-1> i prefer c++ for machine language
#904 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> A Windows Server license is most certainly not free
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#906 [14:29] <tech-1> nop its not
#907 [14:29] <sugoi> you don't need a windows server ... look, what are we even arguing here?
#908 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> and Mono, while not bad, is not 100% compatible
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#910 [14:29] <tech-1> ive checked the price
#911 [14:29] <tech-1> and its far from free
#912 [14:29] <Morrolan> sugoi - Mhm, but running Mono on a Linux server for the sake of interoperability is kind of taking the hard route. :)
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#914 [14:30] <tech-1> im curently working on a java project
#915 [14:30] <tech-1> im making a tool for all my servers host
#916 [14:30] <tech-1> cuz im a host seller
#917 [14:31] <sugoi> first of all, my rate is a whole crap load more than a windows os -
#918 [14:31] <tech-1> for linux i use backtrack
#919 [14:31] <tech-1> but most of all my servers people want windows server
#920 [14:31] <sugoi> tech-1: all i'm saying is don't talk crap about a language when you don't know what you're talking about
#921 [14:32] <tech-1> i dont know ?
#922 [14:32] <sugoi> hate windows if you want, but don't hate c# because it's a web langauge o_O
#923 [14:32] <Morrolan> None hated C# here, so far. Only silly thing was the claim that it's a language used mainly for webservices.
#924 [14:32] <sugoi> tech-1: you clearly do not know what c# can do, that's my point
#925 [14:32] <tech-1> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms228593.aspx
#926 [14:33] * sugoi realizes he's grumpy today
#926 [14:33] * Boreeas dislikes C#
#926 [14:33] <tech-1> the first madxe of c3 is web
#927 [14:33] <Boreeas> For no good reason, since I like Java, but eh
#928 [14:33] <tech-1> read microsoft explaination
#929 [14:33] <sugoi> i've read the spec, even have a printed copy in my desk
#930 [14:33] <tech-1> i love java too :)
#931 [14:33] <sugoi> it has web features
#932 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> tech-1: what was the point of that article?
#933 [14:33] <sugoi> it is not a "web" language
#934 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> it says nothing about anything relevant to the conversation here
#935 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> (and requires an MSDN login to even see)
#936 [14:34] <tech-1> the point is sugoi said i dont know
#937 [14:34] <tech-1> but i have c3
#938 [14:34] <tech-1> c#
#939 [14:34] <sugoi> so a link to the spec proves otherwise?
#940 [14:34] <tech-1> so i wonder why i dont knoq
#941 [14:34] * Corin|Away is now known as Corin
#942 [14:34] <Morrolan> I have Java on my system too, yet I know nothing about it. :)
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#944 [14:35] <sugoi> whatever, obviously i'm not able to debate this civily
#945 [14:35] <Morrolan> (And no, my hello world program doesn't count. :D)
#946 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> hey, I have an idea: why not just agree to let this pointless argument drop?
#947 [14:35] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - Have you forgotten where we are?
#948 [14:35] <tech-1> hello world
#949 [14:35] <Aztecs17> its not letting me login to minecraft
#950 [14:35] <tech-1> it is strange thats the first thing people learn about
#951 [14:35] <tech-1> haha
#952 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: I know, rational thought doesn't have much of a home here on Earth.
#953 [14:35] <sugoi> Aztecs17: has it worked before?
#954 [14:35] <sugoi> !login
#955 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> Aztecs17: what happens when you try?
#956 [14:35] <Aztecs17> What can i do to fix that
#957 [14:36] * sugoi notes that status is green, if that helps
#957 [14:36] <Aztecs17> it says login faild
#958 [14:36] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - That's a bit drastic, I was aiming for "we're on the internet". Though I suppose you are not too far off with that statement.
#959 [14:36] <Aztecs17> 'failed
#960 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> Aztecs17: then you need to type in your password or login credential correctly.
#961 [14:36] <Morrolan> Aztecs17 - Make sure to use your e-mail address, if your account is migrated.
#962 [14:37] <sugoi> Aztecs17: have your tried logging in with your email?
#963 [14:37] <Morrolan> (If you created it recently, it is.)
#964 [14:37] <Rikairchy> lol
#965 [14:37] <Aztecs17> i am logging in with my email
#966 [14:37] <Morrolan> Do those credentials work on www.minecraft.net?
#967 [14:37] <Aztecs17> but i dont have a username it never asked me to create one
#968 [14:38] <tech-1> O_O
#969 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> Aztecs17: did you purchase Minecraft?
#970 [14:38] <Aztecs17> yes
#971 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> Part of the purchase process is selecting an account name
#972 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> but regardless, you log in with your email address.
#973 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> (and your password)
#974 [14:39] <Aztecs17> so what do i do
#975 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> when logging in, use the eamil address you used to sign up, and your password
#976 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> if that still does not work, see this:
#977 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> ?? account
#978 [14:40] <VoxelHead> account: For account issues, please see http://is.gd/mc_acct
#979 [14:43] <DiskDaemon> Rikairchy: hi there
#980 [14:43] <Scott> DopeGhoti wat did your tweet mean? :confused:
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#982 [14:43] <tech-1> simpson probably
#983 [14:44] <Scott> Oh I get it now...
#984 [14:44] <Scott> lol
#985 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> Scott: context, man (:
#986 [14:46] <Rikairchy> hey DiskDaemon
#987 [14:46] <DiskDaemon> You got in touch before about something?
#988 [14:47] <Rikairchy> yes
#989 [14:47] <Rikairchy> the drug you mentioned
#990 [14:47] <Rikairchy> did it eradicate it?
#991 [14:47] <Rikairchy> or just supress it
#992 [14:48] <DiskDaemon> It seems to have eradicated it, in that there is no detectable trace of it in my blood system. Hepatitis C is a virus that only lives in the blood, so that seems to be a net plus there.
#993 [14:48] <Rikairchy> does it help with A or B? Or is it aimed directly at C
#994 [14:48] <DiskDaemon> There's going to be ongoing monitoring of how my bloods are until August though
#995 [14:48] <tech-1> the ultimate drugs to become perfect zombies bathsalt and krokodil
#996 [14:48] <DiskDaemon> It's aimed purely at C
#997 [14:48] <Rikairchy> was it GS-5885?
#998 [14:49] <DiskDaemon> Nah, it was PSI-7977 and GS-9669 with Ribarivin
#999 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> not Riboflavin?
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#1001 [14:49] <Rikairchy> Ribarivin
#1002 [14:49] <Rikairchy> isn't that a standard antiviral?
#1003 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> I was trying to be punny.
#1004 [14:50] <DiskDaemon> It is - the 7977 and the 9669 are the ones that they are testing
#1005 [14:50] <Rikairchy> ahh
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#1007 [14:51] <Rikairchy> my old teacher in HS had Hep B
#1008 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> those pesky swelling livers.
#1009 [14:52] <tech-1> hey dope
#1010 [14:52] <tech-1> why im muted on #minecraft
#1011 [14:53] <DiskDaemon> Here's info about the trial http://inclinicaltrials.com/chronic-hepatitis-c-infection/01260350.aspx
#1012 [14:53] <DiskDaemon> ??> tech-1 irc
#1013 [14:53] <VoxelHead> tech-1: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1014 [14:53] <VoxelHead> tech-1: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1015 [14:54] <tech-1> ah ok thx
#1016 [14:54] <Morrolan> tech-1 - Chances are you didn't register.
#1017 [14:54] <Morrolan> Hint: Read #minecraft's /topic
#1018 [14:54] <Morrolan> Oh, hey, that's even part of that factoid. :)
#1019 [14:54] <DiskDaemon> What? You mean that he has to read and follow the instructions?
#1020 [14:55] <Morrolan> I'm afraid I do, yes.
#1021 [14:55] <DiskDaemon> It's a sad state of affairs when you have to do what you're instructed to do, before your problem can be solved. I don't know what people expect these days
#1022 [14:56] <sugoi> magical fairies that respond to all-caps
#1023 [14:56] <Morrolan> Next thing we know, THEY expect us to learn something. :<
#1024 [14:56] * Gone_Ralex is now known as Lord_Ralex
#1025 [14:57] <Morrolan> I don't like it when THEY limit my freedom, forcing me to read and learn!
#1026 [14:57] <Morrolan> It's one step before communism. :<
#1027 [14:57] <DiskDaemon> It is communism! Everyone with the same problem having to follow lock-step the same set of instructions to solve their problem?
#1028 [14:58] <Morrolan> Oh my, what has it come to.
#1029 [14:58] * DiskDaemon steps back from the kool-aid
#1029 [14:58] * sugoi suddenly has the urge to play some bioshock
#1029 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> would you kindly learn about 'form follows function'?
#1030 [14:58] <tech-1> wow ... just wow ! the halocraftmod is awesome
#1031 [15:02] <tech-1> unbelievable check this girl
#1032 [15:02] <tech-1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=Gu0nyzyfc9U&NR=1
#1033 [15:03] <tech-1> so damn cut unless see remove the makeup XD
#1034 [15:03] <DiskDaemon> tech-1: WHy are you showing us a girl doing her foundation routine?
#1035 [15:03] <Rikairchy> ?
#1036 [15:03] <Rikairchy> why are you watching this
#1037 [15:03] <Rikairchy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctJJrBw7e-c
#1038 [15:03] <VoxelHead> Funny cats in water, EPIC ( by SchneiderYuri )
#1039 [15:03] <Rikairchy> surely that is better
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#1041 [15:04] <tech-1> wtf
#1042 [15:04] <tech-1> lovely cats
#1043 [15:05] <oldtopman> tech-1: Is there anything we can help you with?
#1044 [15:05] <tech-1> nop
#1045 [15:05] <tech-1> i never need help i fix all issues really fast :)
#1046 [15:07] <Rikairchy> really now
#1047 [15:07] <Rikairchy> all issues?
#1048 [15:07] <tech-1> yup why
#1049 [15:08] <Rikairchy> /any/ issue?
#1050 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> tech-1: cool! Why is my cow-orker's workstation going catatonic every few minutes?
#1051 [15:08] <Morrolan> Maybe you shouldn't let a cow use a PC?
#1052 [15:08] <tech-1> im a server host seller its myjob -_-
#1053 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: it's not a cow; it's a cow-ordker.
#1054 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> er, orker.
#1055 [15:09] <Morrolan> Oh.
#1056 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> one who orks cows.
#1057 [15:09] <Morrolan> I see. :S
#1058 [15:09] <Rikairchy> you sell MC servers too?
#1059 [15:09] <tech-1> lol
#1060 [15:09] <Rikairchy> nice.
#1061 [15:09] <tech-1> yup
#1062 [15:09] <Morrolan> Maybe some cow leftovers are jamming the ventilators?
#1063 [15:09] <Morrolan> Orking cows can be a bit messy.
#1064 [15:09] <Rikairchy> full setup, or do you let your clients do that on their own?
#1065 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> nope; I checked.
#1066 [15:09] <Morrolan> Hmm.
#1067 [15:09] <tech-1> full setup
#1068 [15:09] <tech-1> ready to use
#1069 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> fair warning:
#1070 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> ?? rule/8
#1071 [15:10] <VoxelHead> rule/8: http://is.gd/zB1w9I Rule 8: Unsolicited advertisements are not permitted. This includes but it not limited to hosting services, IRC channels, web sites, and yak-shaving services.
#1072 [15:10] <tech-1> now im working to give them the possibility to make all version patch
#1073 [15:10] <tech-1> and all mods patch
#1074 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> all mods, eh?
#1075 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> Impressive.
#1076 [15:10] <Rikairchy> lol
#1077 [15:10] <tech-1> yup
#1078 [15:10] <Rikairchy> that's pretty cool
#1079 [15:10] <Morrolan> //any/ mods?
#1080 [15:10] <DiskDaemon> DopeGhoti: Has he tried turning is off and on again?
#1081 [15:10] <Rikairchy> you find one for weeding out the annoying noobs?
#1082 [15:10] <tech-1> yup any
#1083 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> how do you ensure interoperability between any combination of mods?
#1084 [15:10] <Morrolan> Nope, that's not how escaping works in my client.
#1085 [15:10] <Morrolan> /any/
#1086 [15:10] <Morrolan> There we go.
#1087 [15:11] <Rikairchy> Morrolan: what client?
#1088 [15:11] <Morrolan> KVIrc
#1089 [15:11] <Rikairchy> ahh
#1090 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: Huh. I have _underscore_ and _emphasis_, but not /italic/.
#1091 [15:11] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - _ is both underscore and emphasis for you? :D
#1092 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> since usually, this is just inverted, and is only italic on some clients.
#1093 [15:11] <Rikairchy> <i>?
#1094 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> I meant *emphasis*.
#1095 [15:12] <Rikairchy> dfgf
#1096 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: gesundheit.
#1097 [15:12] * oldtopman just does it in his head
#1097 [15:12] <Morrolan> Oh, yes, me too. I stip any colours and formatting and yaks.
#1098 [15:12] <tech-1> and all machine i install minecraft servers are 6 hors ht on 12 core 3.8 ghz 64 gb ram with raid ssd 600 ms
#1099 [15:12] <Morrolan> strip*
#1100 [15:12] * Rikairchy just uses /me for italicized
#1100 [15:12] <Rikairchy> the hell is a hors
#1101 [15:13] <sugoi> cores
#1102 [15:13] <tech-1> oups sorry
#1103 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> it's a partially disemvoweled equine creature.
#1104 [15:13] <tech-1> cores
#1105 [15:13] <tech-1> lol<
#1106 [15:13] <Morrolan> And here I had hoped for hors d'ouevre. :<
#1107 [15:13] <tech-1> hahaha
#1108 [15:13] <Morrolan> ouevre*
#1109 [15:13] <Morrolan> oeuvre*
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#1111 [15:13] <Morrolan> gosh.
#1112 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: round these parts, we call them "Freedom Finger Food"
#1113 [15:14] <tech-1> XD
#1114 [15:14] <Morrolan> Such a.... barbaric expression.
#1115 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> blame King George II
#1116 [15:14] <Morrolan> I take it you fry them, too?
#1117 [15:14] <Rikairchy> "and all machine i install minecraft servers are 6 hors" the hell? "ht on 12 core" so its a true six core, split into 12? Or what? "3.8 ghz" is that split to 1.9 per core, as they are hyper-threaded? "64 gb ram" for how many hosts, per dedicated server? Are they split into VMs? "with raid ssd 600 ms" Which Raid?
#1118 [15:15] <Rikairchy> DopeGhoti: are you the kind of person to deep-fry sushi?
#1119 [15:15] <Morrolan> 600ms access time? Yikes.
#1120 [15:15] <tech-1> hyperthread yup
#1121 [15:15] <tech-1> ms is the speed of the ssd read
#1122 [15:15] <Rikairchy> tech-1:
#1123 [15:15] <Lutzee> Er 600ms is slow?
#1124 [15:15] <Rikairchy> pls2answer all of them
#1125 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: I'm not really into seafood. K takes her sushi with uncooked fish more often than not, though the sushi itself is cooked.
#1126 [15:15] <Lutzee> Unless you mean 600ns :P
#1127 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> That's.. really really slow
#1128 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> 600ms is a little over half a second, yes.
#1129 [15:16] <tech-1> nooooo
#1130 [15:16] <tech-1> 600 mo/sec
#1131 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> I'm rather sure it is.
#1132 [15:16] <Rikairchy> tech-1: mo?
#1133 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> 600 months per second?
#1134 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> Wow
#1135 [15:16] <sugoi> mb*?
#1136 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> is this a TARDIS?
#1137 [15:16] <Morrolan> mo = megaoctets.
#1138 [15:16] <tech-1> mega octec
#1139 [15:16] <sugoi> ...
#1140 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> no, mega would be M
#1141 [15:16] <Rikairchy> the hell are you all talking about...
#1142 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> clearly it's milliotters.
#1143 [15:16] <sugoi> hahah
#1144 [15:17] <tech-1> grrrr lol
#1145 [15:17] <Rikairchy> is this quantum computing
#1146 [15:17] <Rikairchy> because uh...
#1147 [15:17] <Rikairchy> xD
#1148 [15:17] <Morrolan> *murmur* otter somewhere where no light ever shines.
#1149 [15:17] <Lutzee> So still he means 600MB/s as an octet is the a more exact definition of an 8 bit byte
#1150 [15:17] <Morrolan> Yes.
#1151 [15:17] <Morrolan> I guess that's what he wanted to express. :)
#1152 [15:18] <tech-1> -_-
#1153 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> hard drive access times have become a timey-wimey ball of complexity.
#1154 [15:19] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - Who is 'K', actually?
#1155 [15:19] <tech-1> ssd is not a harddrive
#1156 [15:19] <Rikairchy> K is his puppy
#1157 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> K is my better half.
#1158 [15:19] <Morrolan> Ah, MiB agent?
#1159 [15:19] <Rikairchy> uh tech-1
#1160 [15:19] <tech-1> faster harddrive do 15 ms
#1161 [15:19] <Rikairchy> you're erm
#1162 [15:19] <Rikairchy> slower than I
#1163 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> POSSLQ.
#1164 [15:19] <Rikairchy> an SSD is a Solid State Drive
#1165 [15:19] <Rikairchy> essentially, a flash card in hard drive form, if my understanding is correct
#1166 [15:19] <tech-1> yup
#1167 [15:19] <Selbram> DopeGhoti, what does POSSLQ mean
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#1169 [15:19] <Rikairchy> I've yet to toy with SSDs
#1170 [15:19] <sugoi> tech-1: 'harddrive' in many contexts is a general term for long term storage devices which may be hdd or ssd
#1171 [15:19] <Morrolan> Person of other sex sharing living quarters.
#1172 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Person of Significance Sharing Living Quarters.
#1173 [15:20] <Morrolan> Or that.
#1174 [15:20] <Rikairchy> Morrolan was close
#1175 [15:20] <Lutzee> tech-1: Technically it is a Harddrive, but not a hard disk drive :P i havent found a soft SSD yet :D
#1176 [15:20] <Selbram> I thought that was what it meant
#1177 [15:20] <Selbram> You sound like my people :)
#1178 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> your people?
#1179 [15:20] <Morrolan> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/POSSLQ *cough*
#1180 [15:20] <tech-1> i update all time i see new technologi for now i have 50 machines
#1181 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: gesundheit.
#1182 [15:20] <Rikairchy> so tech-1
#1183 [15:20] <Rikairchy> got a site?
#1184 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: "Person Of Significans" is gender-agnostic, and my preferred expansion.
#1185 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> So you RAID your SSDs.. what RAID?
#1186 [15:21] <sugoi> tech-1: what's your first langauge?
#1187 [15:21] <tech-1> workin g on it
#1188 [15:21] <tech-1> frenc h
#1189 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: C#; he's been over that.
#1190 [15:21] <sugoi> haha
#1191 [15:21] <tech-1> -_-
#1192 [15:21] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - Ah.
#1193 [15:21] <Rikairchy> what is the point of RAID in an SSD if its not RAID1....
#1194 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Buzzword.
#1195 [15:21] <tech-1> curently working on the minecraft hosting site
#1196 [15:21] <Morrolan> Rikairchy - Even faster, I guess. ;)
#1197 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: well, RAID5 would increase both speed and offer redundancy
#1198 [15:21] <tech-1> fastminecraft.com
#1199 [15:22] <tech-1> but not done yet
#1200 [15:22] <Morrolan> Oh, you're the guy behind *that*.
#1201 [15:22] <tech-1> yup
#1202 [15:22] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/1AbFr
#1203 [15:22] <Selbram> did I smell an advertisement?
#1204 [15:22] <Rikairchy> that's your site
#1205 [15:22] <Rikairchy> really
#1206 [15:22] <Morrolan> Didn't make (draw? some other verb?) the connection to the conversation from two days ago.
#1207 [15:22] <tech-1> they asked me
#1208 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Why would you RAID an SSD, when you're trading away wear balancing/TRIM support
#1209 [15:22] <tech-1> i didnt advertised<
#1210 [15:22] <tech-1> wasnt the goal
#1211 [15:22] <Rikairchy> okay but tech-1
#1212 [15:23] <Rikairchy> if you're really looking to sell
#1213 [15:23] <Rikairchy> this site will not work at all...
#1214 [15:23] * VoxelHead kicked tech-1 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ech-1 :Banned: Advertising after explicit warning. Mojang trade mark infringement. Banned for 31 days.)
#1215 [15:23] <Rikairchy> its a wordpress
#1216 [15:23] <Rikairchy> a blog template, for a sales company
#1217 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Derp, what?
#1218 [15:23] <Morrolan> Wonder why he's got a new nick.
#1219 [15:23] <Lutzee> Also, he is allready banned i believe
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#1221 [15:23] <Lutzee> Under the handle kiugetski ?
#1222 [15:23] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - There's been an, uhm, discussion between him and Dopefish in #minecraft the other day.
#1223 [15:23] <Morrolan> Lutzee - Ayup.
#1224 [15:23] * sugoi smells catfish
#1224 [15:23] <Rikairchy> meow
#1225 [15:24] <oldtopman> :o
#1226 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> I.. see.
#1227 [15:24] <oldtopman> why the hell is the ban only on people who have the account name kigetsuki...
#1228 [15:24] <Selbram> sweet mother of banhammers
#1229 [15:24] <Morrolan> Could just expand the ban to his IP, given that he is supposed to be banned.
#1230 [15:24] <oldtopman> on it.
#1231 [15:24] <sugoi> he's full of it, seriously
#1232 [15:24] <Morrolan> oldtopman - Because nickserv accounts are more reliable than IP bans, when it comes to dynamic IPs.
#1233 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> I'm not sure what you mean
#1234 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> 13:20 -!- mode/#minecrafthelp [+b *!*@216-246-244-144.cpe.distributel.net] by VoxelHead
#1235 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> account-based bans are other persons' doing.
#1236 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - I also set a ban on his nickserv account.. since he frequently tries to bypass ip bans
#1237 [15:25] <Rikairchy> banevading is essentially pointless
#1238 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: ban evasion on top of everything else? Cute.
#1239 [15:25] * GreyVulpine nods
#1239 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> tampted to perma his class-c
#1240 [15:25] <Morrolan> Meh.
#1241 [15:25] <Rikairchy> nah
#1242 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> If he comes back again, by all means
#1243 [15:26] <Morrolan> Class C is how many IPs?
#1244 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Kind of tired of him
#1245 [15:26] <sugoi> 'i own 50 machine, run all mods (whatever that means), but can't spell correctly or use good grammar, and i don't even have a site for the 100K investment I have"
#1246 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: 255
#1247 [15:26] <Rikairchy> why take it out on 252 other IPs?
#1248 [15:26] <sugoi> i mean seriously
#1249 [15:26] <oldtopman> Morrolan: Until he changes his login name too.
#1250 [15:27] <Rikairchy> can your bot do CIDR-based bans?
#1251 [15:27] <oldtopman> CIDR?
#1252 [15:27] <Morrolan> oldtopman - Oh, yes, of course.
#1253 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: not exactly, but I can put wildcards in the hostmask
#1254 [15:27] <Morrolan> oldtopman - But then it's certain that they are ban-evading on purpose.
#1255 [15:27] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: just block france
#1256 [15:27] <oldtopman> Morrolan: We got the proof
#1257 [15:27] <Rikairchy> can't they just be *lined by that time
#1258 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: In short, yes.
#1259 [15:28] * Rikairchy is the dick that looks for excuses to *line people on networks, if only for a funny message
#1259 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> I should add the ops-logging that I have for #minecraft for this channel also
#1260 [15:28] <Morrolan> Rikairchy - It'd be preferrable to ban 255 IPs from this channel, than to gline 255 people from Esper, though.
#1261 [15:28] <Rikairchy> Morrolan: technically, it'd be 253
#1262 [15:28] <oldtopman> >.>
#1263 [15:28] <sugoi> <.<
#1264 [15:28] <Morrolan> ^.^
#1265 [15:28] <Rikairchy> x.x
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#1267 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> well, yes
#1268 [15:29] <Boreeas> Wait, kiugetski was him?
#1269 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> but it would include the network and multicast hosts.
#1270 [15:29] * Morrolan nods
#1270 [15:29] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: Shouldn't ban 8 have matched this dude?
#1271 [15:30] <oldtopman> Oh, I see now.
#1272 [15:30] <oldtopman> Forgot the trailing *
#1273 [15:30] <Rikairchy> broadcast, not multicast, Dope
#1274 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> [ 8] av0DeservesIceCrea*!*@* (perm)
#1275 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> or by ban 8 do you mean something else?
#1276 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: tomato, potato (:
#1277 [15:30] <Rikairchy> well, i guess so
#1278 [15:31] <sugoi> so what merited the ban in the first place?
#1279 [15:31] <Morrolan> Err, he was, uh, annoying.
#1280 [15:31] <Lutzee> Boreeas: Is sitting in #minecraftissues again, so one asumes so
#1281 [15:31] <Morrolan> Lutzee - His hosting company's blog's posts are written by kiugetski.
#1282 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> he asked me to "do something" about his unwillingness to accept that he needed to email brands@mojang.com about monetizing the Minecraft name for his own profit.
#1283 [15:32] <Lutzee> Morrolan: that is what i noticed before I even realised it was him
#1284 [15:32] <Morrolan> Oh, yea, that was yesterday. Though kiugetski was already banned earlier on.
#1285 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> so I have him a daycation.
#1286 [15:32] <Morrolan> Lutzee - This is what made me realise that it's him. ^^
#1287 [15:32] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: Are you on Telnet?
#1288 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> yep
#1289 [15:32] <Morrolan> Hmm, still can't DCC CHAT to Vox, might have to blame my firewall.
#1290 [15:32] <Rikairchy> i hope you don't mean the old-school telnet D:
#1291 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> well, DCC, but yeah
#1292 [15:33] <Morrolan> Rikairchy - There's other kinds of telnet?
#1293 [15:33] <Rikairchy> i hope so
#1294 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: set up some NAT and use specific DCC ports on your IRC client
#1295 [15:33] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - Aye, did that a while ago.
#1296 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> hmm
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#1298 [15:33] <Boreeas> Rikairchy: You're right, Morrolan should just use cat on the socket pseudo-file
#1299 [15:33] <Rikairchy> did you forward the ports Vox replies to directly to your machine through the router?
#1300 [15:33] <Morrolan> Of course.
#1301 [15:34] <Morrolan> It worked for a few months. Chances are someone messed up the firewall rules again.
#1302 [15:34] <Rikairchy> my room mate likes to reset (not power cycle) the router every two weeks
#1303 [15:34] <Rikairchy> changes his settings back to how he had them, ignores mine
#1304 [15:35] <Rikairchy> /bitch
#1305 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/884921-minecraft-java-5-and-powerpc-support
#1306 [15:35] * GreyVulpine dances
#1306 [15:36] <Morrolan> My my.
#1307 [15:36] <oldtopman> \o
#1308 [15:36] * oldtopman dances with GreyVulpine
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#1309 [15:36] <Rikairchy> yay
#1310 [15:36] <Lutzee> hehe, i think that was announced at minecon
#1311 [15:36] <Rikairchy> its intel-only now
#1312 [15:36] <DaddyDowns> can you use a game controller instead of the keyboard?
#1313 [15:36] <Rikairchy> kind of
#1314 [15:37] <Morrolan> You'd have to use a software which maps controller input to keys, I guess.
#1315 [15:37] <Rikairchy> you can get a program to map the controller buttons to keys on your keboard
#1316 [15:37] <Lutzee> Last time i checked AMD are still around, just ;)
#1317 [15:37] <Morrolan> Lutzee - Taking about Mac. ;)
#1318 [15:37] <DaddyDowns> thanks
#1319 [15:37] <Rikairchy> Lutzee: I meant Mac-wise
#1320 [15:37] <Rikairchy> DaddyDowns: try looking at Xpaddr
#1321 [15:37] <Rikairchy> I think thats how it was spelled
#1322 [15:37] <DaddyDowns> great
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#1325 [15:40] <Computerguy51> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // This doesn't make any sense! Time: 12/12/12 8:37 PM Description: Rendering screen java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 4096 at java.awt.image.BufferedImage.getRGB(BufferedImage.java:949) at bap.a(SourceFile:104) at bap.b(SourceFile:418) at bef.a(SourceFile:146) at aug.a(SourceFile:175) at bee.a(SourceFile:106) at bac.b(SourceFile:774) at net.minecraft.client.Min
#1326 [15:40] <Rikairchy> hey Computerguy51
#1327 [15:40] <sugoi> Computerguy51: this is not pastebin :)
#1328 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> Computerguy51: please, use pastebin.com
#1329 [15:41] <Rikairchy> just poppin in and pasting a crash is frowned on
#1330 [15:41] * sugoi frowns
#1330 [15:41] <Computerguy51> where will i contact minecraft
#1331 [15:41] <Rikairchy> you could say, "hey guys. How are you doing? My minecraft is crashing. here's the crash report: <pastebin URL>
#1332 [15:41] <Rikairchy> etc
#1333 [15:41] <Morrolan> Computerguy51 - Slap the crashreport on www.pastebin.com or www.pastie.org :)
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#1335 [15:42] <Morrolan> Or... do that. :D
#1336 [15:42] <Selbram> wow
#1337 [15:42] <Rikairchy> asshat
#1338 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> to be fair, we do always say 'don't ask to ask'.
#1339 [15:42] <Selbram> indeed, a hat full of ass
#1340 [15:42] <sugoi> it was frown
#1341 [15:42] <Morrolan> *shrug*, less work, more time to do enjoyable stuff. :)
#1342 [15:42] <sugoi> it is quite uninviting
#1343 [15:42] <sugoi> it was my* ..
#1344 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> but "hey, coupld someone look at $URL and tell me what is broken" would be better than "<plop stack trace>
#1345 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> "
#1346 [15:43] <Selbram> useless stack trace
#1347 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> that too
#1348 [15:43] * sugoi thanks DopeGhoti for closing his quotes
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#1349 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> my pleasure.
#1350 [15:43] <Morrolan> I'm not sure native English supports multi-line sentences, though.
#1351 [15:43] <Morrolan> Wouldn't you need a backslash at the end of the first line? :]
#1352 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> my native tongue is /bin/bash (:
#1353 [15:44] <Rikairchy> well why would us English speaking folks use sentences?
#1354 [15:44] <sugoi> bash
#1355 [15:44] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: +1
#1356 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1357 [15:44] * Rikairchy is in the process of learning bash
#1357 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> I'd speak /bin/zsh more fluently, but it's not as ubiquitous, so I stick with bash.
#1358 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: Commendable, but try to avoid learning bad habits, some of which I still find myself examplifying.
#1359 [15:45] <sugoi> Rikairchy: one could get a degree in bash
#1360 [15:45] <sugoi> so, be careful not to dig too deep
#1361 [15:45] <Rikairchy> sugoi:
#1362 [15:45] <Rikairchy> I know
#1363 [15:45] <Rikairchy> there are several books on Bash
#1364 [15:45] <Rikairchy> as well as a few skillport lessons
#1365 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> excellent reading: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
#1366 [15:46] <sugoi> "* Rikairchy is in the process of learning bash" doesn't imply you did :)
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#1368 [15:46] <Rikairchy> means I STILL AM SUGOI
#1369 [15:46] <sugoi> ppl get so defensive
#1370 [15:46] <Rikairchy> as in, its not finished yet
#1371 [15:46] <sugoi> well, so am i :)
#1372 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> one is never done learning bash, for there is always more to learn
#1373 [15:46] <Rikairchy> you're not finished either?
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#1375 [15:47] <sugoi> finished learning? hopefully never
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#1377 [15:48] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/1AcaZ
#1378 [15:48] <Rikairchy> all the LPI classes Skillport offers x3
#1379 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> ?? Skillport
#1380 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> !wiki skillport
#1381 [15:49] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Correspondence_Course_Program
#1382 [15:49] <GreyBot> The Army Correspondence Course Program (ACCP), is a type of distance education and the formal nonresident extension of the United States Army Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC) service schools' curriculum.
#1383 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not it.
#1384 [15:49] <Rikairchy> its got to do with Skillport
#1385 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> ah. It's a nonfree commercial edumacation thingamadowhackey
#1386 [15:49] <Rikairchy> Skillport offers civilian education to DoD employees
#1387 [15:50] <Rikairchy> the other half of army training basically
#1388 [15:50] <Rikairchy> usually, we have to do the civilian portion to get in to the military part of it
#1389 [15:50] <Rikairchy> Sec+ sucked.
#1390 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> I never did get the Security+ cert
#1391 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> I am merely A+/Network+
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#1393 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> I sat a Linux+ course, but never took the exam
#1394 [15:53] <Rikairchy> DopeGhoti: its more of the paperwork side of Net+
#1395 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> paperwork is always fun
#1396 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> for low-entertainment, high-tedium values of 'fun'
#1397 [15:54] <Rikairchy> heh.
#1398 [15:54] <Rikairchy> we drew up a mock SOP
#1399 [15:54] <Rikairchy> I showed it to the guy in charge of my section
#1400 [15:54] <Rikairchy> and he tossed the one he was writing, changed the names of things, and set it as ours
#1401 [15:54] <Rikairchy> of course, him as the author of it.
#1402 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> heh, nice
#1403 [15:56] <Rikairchy> !wiki skillsoft
#1404 [15:56] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindleaders
#1405 [15:56] <GreyBot> MindLeaders is an elearning and organizational development company with a global HQ in Dublin, Ireland and offices in the UK, US, South Africa and Australia which has been described by Bersin as a "global e-learning player" along with Skillsoft and Element K (which was acquired by Skillsoft in 2011). The company has a substantial elearning content library (about 4,000
#1406 [15:56] <GreyBot> courses in total), mainly in the business skills and IT professional area but also for social care, hospitality and more general compliance training in the UK. These courses are typically accessed through one of two LMS platforms owned by the company. Whilst not a widely known brand, MindLeaders content is resold by consumer-facing channel partners including
#1407 [15:56] <GreyBot> learndirect, Monster.com and Cornerstone OnDemand.
#1408 [15:56] <Rikairchy> oops
#1409 [15:56] <Boreeas> Haha
#1410 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Oh thanks
#1411 [15:57] <Rikairchy> grey, you run GreyBot from your PC?
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#1420 [16:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Gj. thumbsup.png
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#1430 [16:39] <Rikairchy> nsfw, but funny (possibly 16+): http://i.imgur.com/XncIk.png
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#1452 [17:27] <sharkkit> hi
#1453 [17:27] <sharkkit> i just bought the game and created account etc. i can login to mojang website but not the game client
#1454 [17:27] <sharkkit> cany anyone help with that
#1455 [17:28] <sharkkit> its my second account the first one works on the client and the site
#1456 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> sharkkit: can you play in-browser?
#1457 [17:30] <sharkkit> havent tried
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#1459 [17:30] <sharkkit> this is my 2nd MC acct
#1460 [17:30] <sharkkit> my first one works fine
#1461 [17:30] <sharkkit> its not my setup
#1462 [17:31] <Lutzee> sharkkit: Mojang accounts require you to log in using your email address
#1463 [17:31] <sharkkit> tried that too
#1464 [17:32] <sharkkit> i loging to mojang
#1465 [17:32] <sharkkit> go to my account
#1466 [17:32] <sharkkit> go to my minecraft profile
#1467 [17:32] <sharkkit> then it takes me to another page to login
#1468 [17:32] <sharkkit> and i cant login there eitther
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#1470 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> when you log in, in minecraft, are you also using your email address and not the account name?
#1471 [17:33] <sharkkit> nope
#1472 [17:33] <Coty> GreyVulpine
#1473 [17:33] <sharkkit> ive tried tho
#1474 [17:33] <sharkkit> apprenatly i have to login /register from minecraft even tho i already have at mojang
#1475 [17:33] <sharkkit> but it wont take my login
#1476 [17:34] <Coty> Anyone know if GreyVulpine is online?
#1477 [17:35] <sharkkit> when i go here
#1478 [17:35] <sharkkit> https://minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1479 [17:35] <sharkkit> it wont recognize my username or email
#1480 [17:35] <sharkkit> wtf is there someone i can talk to about a refund
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#1482 [17:37] <Lutzee> Snowman:
#1483 [17:37] <Lutzee> oops
#1484 [17:37] <Lutzee> sharkkit: https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
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#1489 [17:41] <WinneR> http://www.carolinaherrera.com/212/es/areyouonthelist?share=Vb9UR_gNSOypVWCs4rq6jTOV5yr2vy28bBN8Zn1HTj3kz4rz3EUUdzs6j6FXsjB4447F-isvxjqkXd4Qey2GHw#episodio-3
#1490 [17:42] <Eddie> Don't spam.
#1491 [17:43] <NinjaKirby> Interesting how whoever coded that, felt a ~50 character random generation ID would be needed.
#1492 [17:43] <NinjaKirby> YouTube handles millions of video's with about 8, I mean wat.
#1493 [17:44] <NinjaKirby> Okay, 11, but my point still stands, whatever that website is probably has pitiful traffic and usage by contrast.
#1494 [17:45] <Lutzee> !kick WinneR Advertising is not allowed
#1495 [17:45] * AuBot kicked WinneR from #minecrafthelp (Reason: inneR :Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by Lutzee with reason: Advertising is not allowed))
#1496 [17:45] <NinjaKirby> I guess that's why TinyURL exists though.
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#1498 [17:46] <coty> Im in the process of moving my online server from my desktop to my labtop and its now on my labtop but its not letting me connect to the server any advice?
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#1500 [17:47] <NinjaKirby> The PC cannot connect to it? I guess they are all running wirelessly on the same network
#1501 [17:47] <coty> yes
#1502 [17:47] <NinjaKirby> Nice, what IP are you using to connect to the Server?
#1503 [17:47] <coty> my personal ip
#1504 [17:48] <coty> it worked fine on my desktop but now its noo letting my labtop connect
#1505 [17:48] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, okay, well, for as long as it's the Laptop's IP address and not 127.0.0.1 or something, since the latter will not work.
#1506 [17:48] <coty> all ive done so far is move the minecraft_server.exe folder over from a flashdrive is there anything i havent done yet?
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#1508 [17:50] <NinjaKirby> If it's all Internal LAN connections, I would hope the Firewall doesn't need rules defining
#1509 [17:50] <NinjaKirby> If the Laptop has one running that is.
#1510 [17:50] <coty> how do i find out?
#1511 [17:51] <NinjaKirby> Checking the system tray in the bottom right corner of your screen (If running Windows), and looking for anything like McAfee or Norton, or AVG I guess.
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#1513 [17:51] <NinjaKirby> I believe they all wield Firewall abilities.
#1514 [17:51] <coty> you mean like a virus protection?
#1515 [17:51] <NinjaKirby> I really hope you are typing in the correct IP addresses, I'd hate to bark up the wrong tree.
#1516 [17:51] <coty> I am I got it from IPchicken.com
#1517 [17:51] <NinjaKirby> Yeah, sometimes they have a whole host of functions, including Firewall.
#1518 [17:52] <coty> Yeah i havent downloaded one yet
#1519 [17:52] <NinjaKirby> Oh right, it shows you your Public IP address that website. So if you ever configured the Router, it's perhaps pointing at the wrong computer now, i.e. not the Server on the Laptop
#1520 [17:52] <Lord_Ralex> i feel late, but what is the actual network setup, in regards to the server and the client
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#1522 [17:53] <NinjaKirby> Wireless via Router, as far as I have discerned
#1523 [17:53] <Lord_Ralex> better to make sure before moving on really
#1524 [17:53] <Lord_Ralex> if LAN, do x, if not, do y
#1525 [17:53] <NinjaKirby> Aye, IP addresses is my suspicion.
#1526 [17:53] <coty> its wireless router
#1527 [17:53] <Lord_Ralex> are the client and the server on the same network
#1528 [17:53] <Lord_Ralex> in that they both connect to it
#1529 [17:53] <coty> client?
#1530 [17:54] <Lord_Ralex> w/e you are using to try to play
#1531 [17:54] <coty> windows 7?
#1532 [17:54] <Lord_Ralex> no, the game
#1533 [17:54] <Lord_Ralex> the computer running the game
#1534 [17:54] <Lord_Ralex> you have a computer running the game, and a computer running the server, right?
#1535 [17:55] <coty> no i wanted both on the same comp
#1536 [17:55] <Lord_Ralex> oky
#1537 [17:55] <Lord_Ralex> okay*
#1538 [17:55] <Lord_Ralex> then that is completely different
#1539 [17:55] <Lord_Ralex> use "localhost" as the ip
#1540 [17:55] <Lord_Ralex> if the server and the game are on the same computer, you use that
#1541 [17:55] <coty> Should I try reseting the router and see if it now targets my labtop?
#1542 [17:56] <Lord_Ralex> no
#1543 [17:56] <Lord_Ralex> you don't need to
#1544 [17:56] <Lord_Ralex> not like that at all
#1545 [17:56] <coty> so what do i need to do so it works on my labtop
#1546 [17:56] <Lord_Ralex> if you have the server and your game client on the same computer, you will use "localhost" as the ip
#1547 [17:56] <coty> but im using the server for me and my friends
#1548 [17:56] <Lord_Ralex> for you, you will use "localhost"
#1549 [17:57] <Lord_Ralex> are they also on your network
#1550 [17:57] <Lord_Ralex> or are they at their house and you are at yours
#1551 [17:58] <coty> im at my house there at theres.
#1552 [17:58] <Lord_Ralex> okay
#1553 [17:58] <Lord_Ralex> then you need to fix the port-forwarding on the router
#1554 [17:58] <coty> The server worked on my desktop but when i switched the folder to my labtop it no longer connects
#1555 [17:58] <Lord_Ralex> to point to the laptop now
#1556 [17:58] <coty> OH
#1557 [17:58] <Lord_Ralex> instead of the desktop
#1558 [17:58] <coty> I FORGOT TO PORTFORWARD ON MY LABTOP!
#1559 [17:58] <coty> Thanks so much!
#1560 [18:00] <coty> uhg
#1561 [18:00] <coty> still no dice
#1562 [18:01] <coty> Do I need to delete the port off my desktop?
#1563 [18:03] <coty> Lord_Ralex
#1564 [18:03] <Lord_Ralex> you will need to change the ip it points to
#1565 [18:03] <Lord_Ralex> instead of having it point to the desktop, it will need to point to the laptop
#1566 [18:03] <coty> But doesnt my labtop and desktop have the same ip?
#1567 [18:03] <Lord_Ralex> no
#1568 [18:03] <Lord_Ralex> they have different ips
#1569 [18:03] <Lord_Ralex> inside the network
#1570 [18:04] <coty> ah ill give it a try
#1571 [18:06] <coty> the ip on ipchicken is the same tho
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#1574 [18:08] <Marc_IRL> Sooooo... any news on how compatible Minecraft is with Windows 8? I'm sure you all have gotten that question a number of times.
#1575 [18:09] <Lutzee> Hey Marc_IRL um, we get people with graphics driver problems... but things are getting better
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#1581 [18:14] <mattym> so, i cant find any mention of it on the wiki, is there a bug with the shears?
#1582 [18:14] <mattym> so, i cant find any mention of it on the wiki, is there a bug with the shears?
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#1584 [18:16] <Lutzee> mattym: not that i know of, what problem are you encountering?
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#1596 [18:37] <j_> i need help setting up my chrome book with minecraft
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#1599 [18:38] <j_> i need help setting up minecraft on my google chrome book
#1600 [18:38] <sugoi> Marc_IRL: just reviewed a long history of chat on this channel, it is always a discussion of opengl driver support
#1601 [18:38] <sugoi> for windows 8
#1602 [18:38] <j_> says i need a plug in
#1603 [18:39] <j_> and also i do not have windows 8
#1604 [18:39] <sugoi> j_: yep, it needs java for your browser
#1605 [18:39] <j_> does google chrome support java
#1606 [18:39] <sugoi> j_: the windows 8 comment wasn't for you
#1607 [18:39] <sugoi> j_: indeed
#1608 [18:39] <j_> okay
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#1610 [18:40] <j_> okay because i have not been sucessful
#1611 [18:40] <sugoi> j_: can you elaborate?
#1612 [18:40] <j_> i have downloaded java and tryied to play but does not work
#1613 [18:41] <sugoi> well..for one, the 'google chrome book' is a netbook, and minecraft is going to take a lot more gpu power than it has
#1614 [18:41] <sugoi> so i wouldn't be surprised if the graphics are just too much for it
#1615 [18:41] <j_> what is gpu?
#1616 [18:41] <sugoi> graphics card
#1617 [18:42] <j_> so it that all
#1618 [18:42] <sugoi> which, your netbook doesn't really have, instead it'd just run graphics on the cpu
#1619 [18:42] <j_> what about the plugin
#1620 [18:42] <sugoi> of course you can try, but it might not work
#1621 [18:42] <sugoi> the plugin should install fine
#1622 [18:42] <j_> so do you think it is possible to run on a chromebook
#1623 [18:42] <sugoi> j_: confirm your java version by visiting this page: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1624 [18:43] <sugoi> j_: i do not think the game will run, but it doesn't hurt to try
#1625 [18:43] <j_> okay should tha be online java or offline
#1626 [18:43] <sugoi> both will install the same thing, offline just means "download all at once, and install from download" or the online, "download an installer that connects to java.com and installs while it downloads"
#1627 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> j_: Yes, Google Chrome should support Java
#1628 [18:44] <sugoi> j_: i prefer the offline option, personally
#1629 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> j_ getjava
#1630 [18:44] <VoxelHead> j_: (getjava) Deprecated. See ?? java/1.6
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#1632 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> j_ java/1.6
#1633 [18:44] <VoxelHead> j_: (java/1.6) To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u35-downloads-1836473.html
#1634 [18:44] <j_> what platform should minecraft download?
#1635 [18:45] <sugoi> depends on your OS
#1636 [18:45] <sugoi> and, in this case, your browser ...
#1637 [18:45] <j_> google os
#1638 [18:45] <sugoi> what i mean is, is it a 32bit or 64bit os and browser
#1639 [18:45] <j_> which would it work in broswer or download
#1640 [18:45] <sugoi> 32bit will 'just work', if you try 64, it depends on other factors
#1641 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> Chromebooks run ChromeOS, which is Linux
#1642 [18:46] <j_> Okay so linux platform will work for download
#1643 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> j_: http://code.google.com/p/java-on-chromebook/
#1644 [18:46] <sugoi> oh he really meant platform, i thought he meant arch
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#1646 [18:47] <j_> okay thank you very much!
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#1648 [18:49] <j_> do i download a linux java?
#1649 [18:50] <sugoi> j_: i think so, did you read the info on the link DopeGhoti gave you?
#1650 [18:50] <sugoi> rhetorical
#1651 [18:50] <sugoi> :)
#1652 [18:52] <j_> will there be an update?
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#1654 [18:53] <sugoi> update to java?
#1655 [18:54] <sugoi> update for minecraft?
#1656 [18:54] <j_> no minecraft to run on a chrome book
#1657 [18:55] <sugoi> things will update when there are updates...i'm not sure what you are concerned aout
#1658 [18:55] <sugoi> about*
#1659 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> j_: that's the thing about Chromebooks; they're like Steam: always updated.
#1660 [18:57] <j_> i can not play minecraft right now
#1661 [18:57] <j_> that is what i am concerned about!
#1662 [18:59] <sugoi> j_: have you installed java yet?
#1663 [18:59] <j_> <sugoi>
#1664 [18:59] <j_> yes and does not work
#1665 [18:59] <sugoi> what doesn't work (please be specific)
#1666 [18:59] <j_> do not know
#1667 [19:00] <sugoi> let me help you help me :)
#1668 [19:00] <sugoi> when describing a bug or failure of some kind
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#1670 [19:00] <sugoi> explain what you did right up to the point where it stopped doing what you expected it would do
#1671 [19:00] <sugoi> then, explain what it did that it shouldn't have
#1672 [19:01] <j_> not loading and never has
#1673 [19:01] <sugoi> not loading what?
#1674 [19:01] <sugoi> can you open your browser?
#1675 [19:01] <j_> the game
#1676 [19:01] <sugoi> can you log into your account?
#1677 [19:01] <j_> yes
#1678 [19:01] <sugoi> does it go to the page
#1679 [19:01] <sugoi> see, DETASILS
#1680 [19:01] <sugoi> DETAILS*
#1681 [19:01] <sugoi> does it give an error, does it give you black box, a white box, a message saying you need java, what
#1682 [19:01] <j_> where is details
#1683 [19:02] <j_> does not give anything just plugin needed
#1684 [19:02] <sugoi> i'm not saying click on a link for details, i'm saying give us the details
#1685 [19:02] <j_> okay
#1686 [19:03] <sugoi> it says you need the plugin still? do you see how that is critical information for us to understand what isn't working?
#1687 [19:03] <sugoi> ok, try closing your browser and reopening it
#1688 [19:03] <sugoi> close every instance
#1689 [19:03] <j_> says as soon as i click on pay in browser that no plug in can display this cntent
#1690 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: how familiar are you with ChromeOS? The browser _is_ the OS (:
#1691 [19:04] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: not one iota, sorry :(
#1692 [19:04] <sugoi> so, reboot?
#1693 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> j_: did you install Java as in that link I gave you earlier?
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#1695 [19:04] <j_> yes
#1696 [19:04] <j_> tried all of this
#1697 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> try a reboot then, that may be needed to finalize the installation
#1698 [19:05] <j_> I have done all of this before
#1699 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> lookie here
#1700 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> literally in the first result for STFWing for 'chromeos minecraft':
#1701 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft requires Java, so cannot play natively in Chrome OS.
#1702 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> Someone has gone into developer mode and installed Java and Minecraft. There are lots of steps involved.
#1703 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> http://chromeoszone.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-play-minecraft-on-chromebook.html
#1704 [19:07] <j_> okay
#1705 [19:07] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: can't chrome os use icedtea?
#1706 [19:07] * sugoi uses icedtea(java)
#1706 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: the thing is that, as designed, the only apps you can install are, for the most part, things on the Chrome App Store
#1707 [19:07] <sugoi> ah
#1708 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> it's possible that, as ChromeOS and Android converge, that MCPE might work
#1709 [19:08] <sugoi> i see
#1710 [19:08] <j_> what does it mean put on minecraft
#1711 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> or if Java is rolled in (as Android is mainly Java and Linux), native Java support will be extant.
#1712 [19:08] <sugoi> sure
#1713 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> j_: go here and start reading:
#1714 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/chromebook-central/UUY_fGZwHL4
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#1716 [19:09] <enament> hello
#1717 [19:09] <sugoi> j_: i appologize, you've got a few extra steps because you have chromeos, that i wasn't aware of
#1718 [19:09] <sugoi> j_: do some good reading that DopeGhoti is providing, it'll make a lot more sense
#1719 [19:09] <sugoi> j_: after you've read it and followed the steps, looks like he got minecraft running just fine - at that point, if you have issues, please come back and ask
#1720 [19:09] <sugoi> enament: hi
#1721 [19:10] <enament> I have a bizar glitch thats causing me a great deal of frustration
#1722 [19:10] <sugoi> enament: perhaps you should talk to your doctor about this
#1723 [19:11] <sugoi> enament: :) can you explain the glitch?
#1724 [19:11] * Marc_IRL kicks sugoi
#1724 [19:11] <sugoi> Marc_IRL: haha
#1725 [19:11] <enament> blocks when on the cerface beam differnt coulors into the sky and there are also horizontal beams as well
#1726 [19:11] <sugoi> Marc_IRL: did you see my comment to you ^^
#1727 [19:11] <enament> its causing a lot of lag
#1728 [19:11] <Marc_IRL> no
#1729 [19:11] <enament> to the point where i just shut it off
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#1731 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> enament: that sounds like it may be a GPU driver problem
#1732 [19:12] <sugoi> Marc_IRL: i reviewed the logs of this channel, windows 8 issues are always (have always been) about graphics drivers
#1733 [19:12] <enament> the most of the beams ive see was aprox 20
#1734 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> enament: have you tried reinstalling your GPU drivers?
#1735 [19:12] <Marc_IRL> What does that mean for users? I'm unfamiliar with Windows 8 graphic driver issues.
#1736 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> or updating them?
#1737 [19:12] <sugoi> Marc_IRL: opengl support incomplete or missing
#1738 [19:13] <sugoi> so frame (and set pixel format) api calls fail in opengl
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#1740 [19:13] <sugoi> the # of issues has decreased over time
#1741 [19:13] <enament> the thing is it worked great before i updated it about 10+ days ago
#1742 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> enament causality
#1743 [19:13] <VoxelHead> enament: (causality) If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#1744 [19:13] <VoxelHead> enament: (causality) Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#1745 [19:13] <enament> some parts of the world are wors than others as well
#1746 [19:14] <Marc_IRL> Guessing that's one of the things that will resolve itself as we stop supporting old architecture, and start having better compatibility with newer versions of lwjgl and such?
#1747 [19:14] <sugoi> Marc_IRL: i agree
#1748 [19:14] <sugoi> and as vendors add support
#1749 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> enament: or you could just not listen and keep typing as though no one is giving you advice at all
#1750 [19:16] <enament> i wasnt done explaning
#1751 [19:17] <enament> you just wernt done listening
#1752 [19:17] <sugoi> enament: :)
#1753 [19:17] <sugoi> enament: what did you update 10 days ago?
#1754 [19:17] <sugoi> driver or minecraft?
#1755 [19:17] <sugoi> or, other
#1756 [19:17] <enament> minecraft
#1757 [19:17] <sugoi> are you on latest now?
#1758 [19:18] <enament> i also have ati card that is up to date
#1759 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> ??> enament win/dxdiag
#1760 [19:18] <VoxelHead> enament: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1761 [19:18] <VoxelHead> enament: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1762 [19:18] <sugoi> enament: do get the dxdiag for DopeGhoti, but i have other questions for you: question, are you using optifine?
#1763 [19:19] <enament> yes the latest now
#1764 [19:19] <sugoi> latest optifine?
#1765 [19:19] <sugoi> latest minecraft
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#1767 [19:21] <enament> no I am not running optifine
#1768 [19:21] <enament> the latest now was a response to20:17
#1769 [19:21] <sugoi> enament: dxdiag for DopeGhoti would still be good, another question, can you rephrase/correct what you meant by: "blocks when on the cerface beam differnt coulors into the sky and there are also horizontal beams as well"
#1770 [19:21] <sugoi> thanks
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#1772 [19:22] <Coty> GreyVulpine are you there?
#1773 [19:22] <enament> well to be specific ok here goes
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#1775 [19:22] * sugoi suspects the dxdiag is never coming
#1775 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> no wager, sugoi
#1776 [19:23] <Coty> Anyone know where to find the most realistic looking texture pack?
#1777 [19:23] <sugoi> haha
#1778 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> Coty: outdoors.
#1779 [19:23] <Coty> where do i find it?
#1780 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> outdoors.
#1781 [19:23] <sugoi> haha
#1782 [19:23] <Coty> oh har har, thanks smartass
#1783 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> I don't know how much realism you are hoping to squeeze out of a game whose world is rendered in one meter cubes.
#1784 [19:24] <Coty> theres alot that look better then the default. I know that for a fact
#1785 [19:24] <enament> there will be beams 1m x 1m eminating from an individual block in various random colors and sometimes textures as well the 1m x 1m beams, beamvertically what seems like infinity
#1786 [19:25] <enament> same with the horizontal ones as well
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#1789 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> enament: previous instructions still apply
#1790 [19:26] <enament> ok now i need to get that scriptvoxel1head wanted
#1791 [19:26] <sugoi> enament: yeah, VoxelHead is rather impatient, i hope i didn't distract you for too long
#1792 [19:27] <enament> ok so the windows key +r
#1793 [19:27] <sugoi> enament: yep, brings up the "Run" window
#1794 [19:27] * Marc_IRL jumpkicks Elystus
#1794 [19:27] <Marc_IRL> Y U NO SKYPE
#1795 [19:27] * Elystus hops on skype >_>
#1795 [19:27] <sugoi> <_<
#1796 [19:28] <Elystus> I just got back from school Marc :P
#1797 [19:28] <Marc_IRL> Whatever! You must be available at all times!
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#1799 [19:29] <Rezzurected> I can't join my minecraft tekkit server.
#1800 [19:29] <sugoi> Rezzurected: can you join other servers? does vanilla work to connect to a vanilla server?
#1801 [19:30] <Rezzurected> Yes i can join other servers using minecraft client but i am trying to use the tekkit client.
#1802 [19:30] <sugoi> Rezzurected: also, there is a #technic channel on irc.synirc.net
#1803 [19:30] <sugoi> Rezzurected: then it is best to discuss this with tekkit ppl
#1804 [19:30] <sugoi> see info i gave ^
#1805 [19:30] <Rikairchy> 0.0
#1806 [19:31] <sugoi> Rikairchy: .0.
#1807 [19:31] <enament> ok going to past it now
#1808 [19:31] <sugoi> pastebin!
#1809 [19:31] <sugoi> pastebin pastebin
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#1811 [19:31] <sugoi> enament: please use pastebin.org
#1812 [19:31] <sugoi> zug
#1813 [19:31] <sugoi> .com
#1814 [19:31] <sugoi> pastebin.com
#1815 [19:32] <Rezzurected> What is the url again?
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#1817 [19:32] <sugoi> Rezzurected: irc.synirc.net? that's not a webpage mind you
#1818 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> it's tne uniform resource locator
#1819 [19:32] <sugoi> that's another irc service
#1820 [19:33] <sugoi> Rezzurected: this channel runs on esper, the technic channel runs on synirc
#1821 [19:34] <Rezzurected> Is it called Vhosti.fi?
#1822 [19:34] <enament> ok type this to find ( minecraft light shaft )
#1823 [19:34] <sugoi> Rezzurected: i have no idea what you're referring to
#1824 [19:35] <mattym> wow, i cant believe i left this on
#1825 [19:35] <sugoi> Rezzurected: is that a file in your irc client?
#1826 [19:35] <Rezzurected> irc client?
#1827 [19:35] <mattym> Earlier i was asking about info on the "shears" i cant find a bug listing, but they dont seem to be taking damage
#1828 [19:35] <enament> the file is now posted type minecraft light shaft to view it
#1829 [19:36] <sugoi> Rezzurected: how did you connect here?
#1830 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> enament: please just give us the URL
#1831 [19:36] <sugoi> mattym: odd
#1832 [19:36] <Rezzurected> Mojang Website
#1833 [19:36] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: mibbit? ^
#1834 [19:36] <enament> http://pastebin.com/1Uk1Jm8g
#1835 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> thank you
#1836 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> enament: your GPU drivers are from 2010
#1837 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> update them here:
#1838 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> ??> enament gpu/amd
#1839 [19:37] <VoxelHead> enament: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#1840 [19:37] <mattym> sugoi: yeah mine seem to be taking no durability loss and i cant find any other mention of this
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#1842 [19:37] <sugoi> mattym: curious
#1843 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> (did I not say after five seconds that it looked like a CPU driver problem?)
#1844 [19:38] <sugoi> i'd backup my minecraft folder (rename), redownload, new world, test
#1845 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> (GPU driver, even)
#1846 [19:39] <enament> it says i have the best available
#1847 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> I find that hard to believe
#1848 [19:40] <enament> graphicks driver
#1849 [19:40] <enament> i mean
#1850 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> your current drivers are dated Feb 2012 and are not WHQL certified.
#1851 [19:40] <enament> cpu im not so sure
#1852 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> I am absolutely certain that AMD has updated their GPU drivers since 2010
#1853 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> (dated Feb 2010 rather)
#1854 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> http://pastebin.com/1Uk1Jm8g
#1855 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> er
#1856 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> Driver Date/Size: 2/11/2010 01:12:10, 5205504 bytes
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#1858 [19:42] <enament> ok im going to update cpu now
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#1860 [19:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> update cpu?
#1861 [19:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> good luck with that
#1862 [19:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> xD
#1863 [19:44] <sugoi> oh be nice :)
#1864 [19:45] <sugoi> enament: try a force update of minecraft too if you feel your drivers are sound
#1865 [19:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> sugoi: ;)
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#1869 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: they're not. they're two years and more old.
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#1871 [19:55] <sugoi> yep
#1872 [19:55] <sugoi> yep
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#1874 [19:57] <enament> oh and by the way I really appriciate the help I know you guys do this for nothing so thanx
#1875 [19:57] <enament> its still updating
#1876 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> nice to be appreciated.
#1877 [19:58] <enament> i assumed win 7 did it on install of os
#1878 [19:58] <sugoi> enament: it may not have been a critical update
#1879 [19:59] <sugoi> enament: also, in my experience, gpu drivers are something worth seeking updates for
#1880 [19:59] <sugoi> and by seeking, i mean actively, manually, checking
#1881 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Never ever ever trust Windows Update for drivers
#1882 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> ever
#1883 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> under any curcumstances
#1884 [20:00] <sugoi> :)
#1885 [20:00] <sugoi> works for me, but meh
#1886 [20:00] <enament> ive never trusted windows for anything any way
#1887 [20:00] * sugoi used to work for microsoft
#1887 [20:00] <sugoi> what? who? ...
#1888 [20:00] <enament> crummiest kernel ever
#1889 [20:02] <enament> designed to get viruses to support anti virus program providers
#1890 [20:02] <sugoi> well, i can assure you that is not the case
#1891 [20:02] <sugoi> unless between 2005-2007 they changed that policy
#1892 [20:03] <enament> oh yea linux doesnt get viruses my bro had linux for 10 years and not once did he get a virus
#1893 [20:03] <sugoi> entirely different argument
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#1896 [20:04] <enament> and yes i do know that linux does indeed get viruses
#1897 [20:04] <sugoi> besides, i could write a virus to attack linux in truly 1 minute
#1898 [20:05] <sugoi> look, i'm just saying - it is not their intent (nor was it my intent, nor my job there) to cater to virus and pad anti-virus company pockets
#1899 [20:05] <sugoi> also, viruses attack windows also because their customer base is huge and most attacks work through social engineering
#1900 [20:06] <sugoi> regardless of the perfection of the security, a user can always be duped
#1901 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: you have to admit that is objectively more difficult to attack POSIX from userspace and affect anything not owned by the infected user
#1902 [20:06] <Scott> GateKeeper will protect you :D
#1903 [20:06] <enament> brb whopper wed still updating
#1904 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> the best OS X "virus" actually asked the user for their password, and had a clickwrap EULA
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#1906 [20:08] <Scott> get a veggie burger, not a whopper
#1907 [20:08] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: you put my mom on linux, she creates a su password, visits the wrong site that says she needs to install 'x', and then it requires 'x' for auth promotion, she'll do it
#1908 [20:08] <sugoi> she'll believe it
#1909 [20:08] <sugoi> that's the vast majority of attack vectors that succeed
#1910 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: that's not a virus attack
#1911 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> taht's social engineering and a PEBCAK error
#1912 [20:08] <sugoi> indeed, and that's the majority of the threat, that's my only point
#1913 [20:09] <sugoi> i've never had a single anti-virus app on any computer
#1914 [20:09] <sugoi> and never had a single virus
#1915 [20:09] <sugoi> or worm, or social engineering attack or etc
#1916 [20:10] <Scott> I do not use antivirus on any of my machines.
#1917 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> I do. The base antivirus is not being able to run the bytecode that the virii are written in 99% of the time
#1918 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> s/base/best/
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#1921 [20:14] <Intimate_Rhinos> I misnamed a minecraft username I just bought
#1922 [20:14] <Intimate_Rhinos> Any way to refund the purchase?
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#1924 [20:15] <Intimate_Rhinos> Anyone?
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#1926 [20:15] <sugoi> Intimate_Rhinos: best i can offer is to contact mojang about your account and give them your purchase info and what name you wanted
#1927 [20:15] <sugoi> it might work out
#1928 [20:16] <Intimate_Rhinos> in what form
#1929 [20:16] <sugoi> ?? account
#1930 [20:16] <VoxelHead> account: For account issues, please see http://is.gd/mc_acct
#1931 [20:16] <Intimate_Rhinos> that wont work for renaming though
#1932 [20:17] <Intimate_Rhinos> or for refunds
#1933 [20:17] <sugoi> well there aren't refunds
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#1935 [20:18] <Intimate_Rhinos> lol
#1936 [20:18] <Intimate_Rhinos> See ya then
#1937 [20:18] <sugoi> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#1939 [20:18] <Oxymoron> Just wondering. Is it just me, or do skeletons/zombies no longer pick up and equip things you throw at them? (Like armor, tools, etc)
#1940 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> I never saw them do that anyhow
#1941 [20:19] <sugoi> Oxymoron: are you a zombie or skeleton?
#1942 [20:19] <Oxymoron> ...?
#1943 [20:19] <sugoi> "< Oxymoron> Just wondering. Is it just me, [...]"
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#1945 [20:19] <Oxymoron> ...Um, any serious answers?
#1946 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> other than mine?
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#1948 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> I was heretofore unaware that that was expected behavior
#1949 [20:20] <Oxymoron> They did that before.
#1950 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> define 'before'
#1951 [20:20] <sugoi> i read on mc wiki that they'll pick up items you drop (like from death)
#1952 [20:20] <sugoi> well since some 1.4 update, maybe 1.3
#1953 [20:20] <Oxymoron> Well, I think it was 1.4.
#1954 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> that might explain why I've never seen it, heh
#1955 [20:21] <sugoi> Oxymoron: but it isn't always, it's random
#1956 [20:21] <Oxymoron> But since one of the updates, they don;t do it anymore.
#1957 [20:21] <Lutzee> Zombies will pick items up, but not skeletons
#1958 [20:21] <Oxymoron> Seriously?
#1959 [20:21] <sugoi> well
#1960 [20:21] <Oxymoron> I used to be able to make them do it all the time.
#1961 [20:21] <Oxymoron> Just throw armor on them and they equip it.
#1962 [20:21] <Oxymoron> Or even tools.
#1963 [20:23] <Oxymoron> I'm guessing the silence means that everyone's opening Minecraft to check? D
#1964 [20:24] <sugoi> Oxymoron: haah, actually, i didn't have more to add, so i got back to work
#1965 [20:25] <Oxymoron> Well....
#1966 [20:25] <Oxymoron> But what if you want to give a skeleton full diamond armor or something? XD
#1967 [20:26] <Oxymoron> I've done that once to shoot it out of a cannon.
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#1969 [20:26] <Oxymoron> If it's now random... Then...
#1970 [20:26] <Oxymoron> Weird.
#1971 [20:26] <Oxymoron> Well. I'll keep trying.
#1972 [20:26] <sugoi> good luck :)
#1973 [20:26] <Oxymoron> Let me test it with a stack of diamond helmets. :P
#1974 [20:26] <sugoi> Oxymoron: feel free to come back and teach us what you learn too
#1975 [20:26] <Oxymoron> Sure.
#1976 [20:26] <Lutzee> I got back to the important thing, which is formatting my maths coursework
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#1981 [20:29] <dhays> I try to play the Minecraft demo, it says it loads but all i get is a white screen... Whats wrong?
#1982 [20:30] <jwswag69> I have a minecraft acount and i recently downloaded minecraft 1.4.5. It runs as an executable right out of my downloads folder. On the launcher, it says "loading update news" and is stuck there. although I can login and play but i cannot find any files on my disc relating to minecraft (no .minecraft file). thoughts?
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#1984 [20:30] <sugoi> jwswag69: did it work before? (sounds like anti-virus is blocking it)
#1985 [20:31] <sugoi> dhays: white screen sounds like crash, update video card
#1986 [20:31] <dhays> its on a mac and all other videos play fine
#1987 [20:31] <sugoi> dhays: i'm glad
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#1989 [20:32] <Helpme> Minecraft is working on my laptop
#1990 [20:32] <Helpme> Isnt
#1991 [20:32] <sugoi> dhays: by "update video card" i mean, update your video card DRIVER
#1992 [20:32] <sugoi> Helpme: haha, darn, was going to say, "done" :)
#1993 [20:32] <dhays> too?
#1994 [20:32] <sugoi> Helpme: also, i'm sure you can build a more helpful description that that
#1995 [20:32] <sugoi> than* that
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#1997 [20:33] <sugoi> dhays: too what?
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#1999 [20:33] <Oxymoron> Okay, I'm back.
#2000 [20:33] <Oxymoron> I've tried throwing armor at zombies and skeletons lots of times.
#2001 [20:33] <dhays> great advice....
#2002 [20:33] <Oxymoron> They never picked it up.
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#2004 [20:34] <Oxymoron> I guess it's been removed? Because the odds of them equiping it shouldn't be this low of it's supposed to be random.
#2005 [20:34] <jwswag69> this is the first time installation on a new computer
#2006 [20:34] <jwswag69> last time i played was when minecraft was in 1.3
#2007 [20:34] <Oxymoron> Oh well. Like they said, send complaints to Jeb. XD
#2008 [20:34] <Oxymoron> That, I am going to do. :p
#2009 [20:34] <Dave567> hi, I cant run my single player map without mineraft crashing on me. The only map I can play generates miles of open ocian, longer than usual.
#2010 [20:35] <Oxymoron> Well, not straight to him.
#2011 [20:35] <Oxymoron> Only ocean? Weird...
#2012 [20:35] <sugoi> Dave567: and that is a multiplayer map? you're saying all single player maps crash?
#2013 [20:36] <sugoi> Dave567: also, just create a new world, each is random (unless you are specifying the seed everytime)
#2014 [20:36] <sugoi> jwswag69: disable anti virus and firewall (as a test) try again, it should work
#2015 [20:36] <sugoi> if it does work, give java an exception in your anti-virus
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#2017 [20:37] <Dave567> I havent even figured out how to use seeds . and I havent really tried using my other maps so im not shure
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#2020 [20:38] <enament> well its time for me to go thaks for the help ill work on the updates for a while and if there is still a problem ill be back thank you all for the help and take care
#2021 [20:38] <sugoi> Dave567: make more than one, try another :)
#2022 [20:38] <Dave567> ok
#2023 [20:38] <sugoi> Dave567: what info can you give us about the crash, btw?
#2024 [20:38] <Dave567> It says that it saves a crash report everytime it actualy crashes
#2025 [20:39] <Dave567> Im looking for the report in my files now
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#2027 [20:40] <sugoi> Dave567: i use a lot of mods now, so things are different for me
#2028 [20:40] <sugoi> but i'm pretty sure the error reports go in %appdata%/.minecraft/
#2029 [20:40] <sugoi> look for a hs_error.log (or similar name)
#2030 [20:41] <Dave567> yea i found it, should i just paste it in the chat or something?
#2031 [20:41] <sugoi> NOT to chat :)
#2032 [20:41] <sugoi> ??> Dave567 pastebin
#2033 [20:41] <VoxelHead> Dave567: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#2036 [20:42] <cabb> Quick question: Is there any possible method of having an account name changed on minecraft.net?
#2037 [20:43] <sugoi> cabb: someone just came in to ask that, not that i know of
#2038 [20:43] <sugoi> but email mojang support
#2039 [20:43] <sugoi> see what they decide to do
#2040 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> The name cannot be changed - there were plenty of warnings about that when you chose the name
#2041 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> You can however use a different username, by purchasing a different account
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#2043 [20:43] <Dave567> ok does the error report share any personsal information. Im guessing obviously not.
#2044 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> Not unless your computer network is called Sleeze-Hotel or something odd like that
#2045 [20:44] <sugoi> Dave567: nope, no worries
#2046 [20:44] <Dave567> ok the link is as follows:http://pastebin.com/jqtJMgkq
#2047 [20:45] <branjoe1> trying to login with my son's email and password but it is telling me that it is invalid help!!! I know it is right I just confirmed everything in an email to his email
#2048 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> branjoe1: With the mojang.com account?
#2049 [20:47] <sugoi> Dave567: i don't know what causes this, i'm sorry
#2050 [20:47] <branjoe1> yes it is asking for a username and I put in my email
#2051 [20:47] <sugoi> someone else here might have info
#2052 [20:48] <Dave567> ok thanks anyway
#2053 [20:49] <branjoe1> I even tried to create a new account but I can't because of my email. What do I do?
#2054 [20:49] <Dave567> can anyone else help me. My miinecraft crashes whenever I launch a single player map.
#2055 [20:50] <sugoi> Dave567: have you tried making a new map?
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#2057 [20:52] <Dave567> yes and it works but is there anyway i can get my old map back?
#2058 [20:52] <Dave567> I was actualy working on it so I can transfer it into a server when It was finished.
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#2060 [20:54] <sugoi> Dave567: try to resave the map with a tool like mcedit
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#2062 [20:54] <Dave567> where can I get the download?
#2063 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> minecraft.net/download
#2064 [20:55] <sugoi> DiskDaemon: he's asking about mcedit
#2065 [20:56] <DiskDaemon> ?? mcedit
#2066 [20:56] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#2067 [20:57] <Dave567> thanks
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#2076 [21:11] <jessekountz> i cannot download mine craft in my new computer ..i have a premium account
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#2083 [21:17] <senf> Hi is anyone online
#2084 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> sure
#2085 [21:17] <senf> hey my minecraft wont update can you help me
#2086 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
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#2089 [21:19] <senf> no its not acknowleging that there is an update to be downloaded but i dont have any of the new features
#2090 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> Which new features?
#2091 [21:19] <senf> anvil,wither,carrots, ect.
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#2093 [21:20] <DiskDaemon> :fu
#2094 [21:20] <DiskDaemon> ?? forceupdate
#2095 [21:20] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2096 [21:20] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.;;See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#2099 [21:21] <senf> ok
#2100 [21:21] <j_> I downloaded minecraft and bought the game for my son. Everytime I try and open the minecraft app it says loading and then goes black and closes. What am I doing wrong?
#2101 [21:22] <senf> didnt help
#2102 [21:22] <j_> any advice on what i could do to start the program?
#2103 [21:23] <senf> try shutting down protection programs
#2104 [21:23] <j_> like?
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#2106 [21:23] <senf> avast, norten, ect
#2107 [21:24] <senf> just perental blocks or antiviruses
#2108 [21:24] <j_> he is on an account with parental blocks. Will that not allow it to open? sorry every new to this
#2109 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> senf: What version of Minecraft does your game show that you are using?
#2110 [21:25] <senf> sometimes just depends on the pl
#2111 [21:25] <j_> 1.4.5
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#2114 [21:25] <senf> 1.3.2
#2115 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> j_: We need an error report from you. The following is a good way to get one http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2116 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> senf: That's a very old version. Try a reinstall.
#2117 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> ??> senf win/reinst
#2118 [21:25] <VoxelHead> senf: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2119 [21:25] <senf> ok
#2120 [21:25] <VoxelHead> senf: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2121 [21:27] <j_> trying that now thank you all so much!
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#2124 [21:28] <senf> it still is the same version
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#2126 [21:29] <benneya> HI. I am getting a weird message when I try to log on. It says that mine craft has crashed.
#2127 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> senf: That's not possible - the Minecraft launcher only downloads the most recent version of the game.
#2128 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> benneya: Please get the crash report to us
#2129 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> ??> benneya pastebin
#2130 [21:30] <VoxelHead> benneya: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2131 [21:30] <benneya> how do you want me to do that?
#2132 [21:30] <benneya> should I copy and paste?
#2133 [21:30] <j_> I downloaded a new verison and it does that same thing!! AHH
#2134 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> benneya: please read that info about pastebin
#2135 [21:31] <senf> well is there some way to contact someone higher in support
#2136 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> j_: You have not been instructed to download a new version
#2137 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> j_: We need an error report from you. The following is a good way to get one http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2138 [21:31] <senf> what do you mean
#2139 [21:32] <DiskDaemon> senf: We are volunteers that love the game and want to help others enjoy it too. We don't do this support work for Mojang or any other company
#2140 [21:32] <senf> oh well does mojang have support
#2141 [21:33] <DiskDaemon> senf: From waht I'm seeing of your problem, it looks like you may be using an illegally pirated version of things. If I'm mistaken on that then it's likely due to there being some misunderstanding occurring somewhere
#2142 [21:34] <benneya> I submitted the paste -
#2143 [21:34] <senf> well i bought it on the minecraft website
#2144 [21:34] <j_> as did i and it still won't work and the crash report isn't working either
#2145 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> senf: Is your .minecraft/ folder located in the appdata folder for example? You can make sure that you're in the right place by going to the texturepack folder (from the game menu), and go up a folder from there
#2146 [21:35] <benneya> I am not sure where to find the URL to send you?
#2147 [21:35] <senf> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
#2148 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> j_: There are three different methods for getting a crash report - use another one
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#2150 [21:37] <benneya> Did I lose you?
#2151 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> benneya: The URL is normally shown at the top of the web browser
#2152 [21:38] <benneya> okay, so copy and paste the address, basically?
#2153 [21:39] <benneya> http://pastebin.com/4dq4P1Xw
#2154 [21:39] <benneya> sorry, kinda new at this!
#2155 [21:39] <DiskDaemon> "could not create pixel format" indicates that some form of compatibility with the graphics driver is involved - but it's a mac, and I suck at macs
#2156 [21:40] <benneya> weird. why all of a sudden?
#2157 [21:40] <DiskDaemon> Because something changed, I'd say.
#2158 [21:40] <benneya> maybe I should just re boot
#2159 [21:41] <DiskDaemon> Yes, turn it off and on again.
#2160 [21:41] <benneya> okay, thanks!
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#2162 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> Looks like turning it off and on again was the answer - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1371244-minecraft-mac-125-crash-help/#entry16707894
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#2169 [22:24] <Tombo1122435> my server crashed and gave me a report in a txt file. where do i send it to get support?
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#2171 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#2172 [22:25] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2173 [22:26] <Tombo1122435> ok
#2174 [22:28] <Tombo1122435> http://pastebin.com/wqyeHBex
#2175 [22:29] <DiskDaemon> Come back without mods, and we'll see what we can do to help you.
#2176 [22:29] <Tombo1122435> without server mods?
#2177 [22:29] <DiskDaemon> In the meantime, there is the #bukkit or the #bukkithelp channel that you may be able to gain assitance from
#2178 [22:29] <Tombo1122435> ok
#2179 [22:29] <DiskDaemon> Without ANY mods in this channel :)
#2180 [22:29] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#2181 [22:29] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2182 [22:29] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2183 [22:29] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#2187 [22:42] <meatball11887> Hi I am having a problem with minecraft I played it the other day and it worked fine. Tried today and I can't get it to open! Tried deleting it but I can't get it to re download I will hit open then run to try to redo it but nothig ever happens does anyone know how to fix it?
#2188 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> ?? forceupdate
#2189 [22:42] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2190 [22:42] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.;;See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2191 [22:43] <meatball11887> I would but I can't get minecraft to open at all
#2192 [22:43] <meatball11887> I deleted i thinking I could redownload it but I hit download, save, run then it does nothing
#2193 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2194 [22:47] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#2195 [22:47] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2196 [22:53] <meatball11887> I don't think it was a crash it was working fine yesterday I shut it down and today it is like the button isn't there it does nothing when I click on the minecraft symbol I tried a system restore to yesterday but still no luck
#2197 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> The purpose of the crash report is to acquire information to help us figure out what is happening when you try to start the minecraft launcher.
#2198 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> Sadly, I have to head off, but someone else might be able to help further
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#2200 [23:04] <Rezzurected> I cannot get into my minecraft server using tekkit.
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#2203 [23:07] <Rezzurected> What do i do now that i migrated my account to Mojang.com and cannot join my tekkit server?
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#2205 [23:10] <Rezzurected> Can anyone help?
#2206 [23:14] <Rezzurected> I am having problems with my account because i have migrated it.
#2207 [23:17] <Marc_IRL> Are you having trouble with your account, or trouble with the Tekkit launcher?
#2208 [23:17] <Rezzurected> Can anyone help me with my minecraft problem????
#2209 [23:17] <Rezzurected> Umm
#2210 [23:17] <Rezzurected> My account
#2211 [23:17] <Marc_IRL> What's the problem with your account?
#2212 [23:18] <Rezzurected> I migrated it to Mojang.com now i can't get on tekkit servers using my tekkit launcher.
#2213 [23:18] <Marc_IRL> So you're having a tekkit launcher problem
#2214 [23:18] <Rezzurected> Yes i think.
#2215 [23:19] <Marc_IRL> Have you tried the technic pack forums?
#2216 [23:19] <Rezzurected> But i have seen forums on tekkit problems similar to mine and they say it is because of the account migration.
#2217 [23:19] <Marc_IRL> I can only offer actual account support, not support for mods.
#2218 [23:19] <Rezzurected> and no.
#2219 [23:20] <Rezzurected> How do i get support from tekkit?
#2220 [23:20] <ShaRose> the tekkit launcher needs to update if that's the case
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#2222 [23:20] <ShaRose> and you'd contact them
#2223 [23:21] <Rezzurected> It tells me, "Failed to login:Bad login".
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#2225 [23:23] <Rezzurected> It tells me, "Failed to login:Bad login" when i try to join a sever using the tekkit launcher.
#2226 [23:23] <Marc_IRL> Yes, you've said that
#2227 [23:23] <Marc_IRL> You need help from Tekkit, this isn't a Minecraft support issue
#2228 [23:23] <ShaRose> Rezzurected we pretty much already told you
#2229 [23:23] <Marc_IRL> I did a google search, and this has been an issue since at least august
#2230 [23:24] <Rezzurected> Yes i have checked it also.
#2231 [23:24] <Marc_IRL> Tekkit needs to update its launcher. This isn't just migrated accounts, it's probably all Mojang accounts, which includes every new account created.
#2232 [23:26] <Rezzurected> Yup.
#2233 [23:27] <Rezzurected> It didn't start doing it untill i migrated it.
#2234 [23:27] <Rezzurected> It didn't start doing it untill i migrated it.
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#2240 [23:54] <Marc_IRL> Screen going black after logging in is a driver issue, correct?
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