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#4 [00:07] <Builder23> Hello?
#5 [00:07] <stickypixel> Hello.
#6 [00:08] <Builder23> This is the Minecraft Help Channel?
#7 [00:08] <stickypixel> Correct.
#8 [00:09] <Builder23> Well I am having trouble setting up a server
#9 [00:09] <stickypixel> ?? ask
#10 [00:09] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#11 [00:09] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#12 [00:10] <Builder23> When I try to save the server file, it keeps saying "This file can't be downloaded"
#13 [00:11] <Warfar> antivirus
#14 [00:12] <Builder23> Wouldn't a notification saying this file was blocked by firewall appear? it has not
#15 [00:13] <Warfar> Something is preventing it from being downloaded
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#17 [00:15] <Builder23> I will try to see what is blocking it
#18 [00:16] <Builder23> thanks i guess
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#80 [04:22] <patsellis> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Rendering screen
#81 [04:22] <patsellis> Minecraft has crashed! Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Rendering screen
#82 [04:22] <patsellis> any ideas?
#83 [04:23] <patsellis> -- Head -- Stacktrace: at org.lwjgl.input.Keyboard.getKeyName(Keyboard.java:421) at ate.a(SourceFile:79) -- Screen render details -- Details: Screen name: ate Mouse location: Scaled: (213, 119). Absolute: (427, 240) Screen size: Scaled: (427, 240). Absolute: (854, 480). Scale factor of 2 -- Affected level -- Details:
#84 [04:23] <techno156> ??>> patsellis pastebin
#85 [04:24] <patsellis> pastebin?
#86 [04:24] <techno156> yes
#87 [04:24] <patsellis> sorry first time on this thing
#88 [04:24] <techno156> don't worry
#89 [04:24] <techno156> can you give us the link?
#90 [04:25] <patsellis> what link?
#91 [04:25] <techno156> hang on...
#92 [04:25] <techno156> ??< pastebin
#93 [04:25] <techno156> ?? pastebin
#94 [04:25] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#95 [04:25] <techno156> there you go
#96 [04:25] <techno156> put your log there
#97 [04:26] <patsellis> http://pastebin.com/ZbtAYXbF
#98 [04:26] <patsellis> there you go thank you
#99 [04:28] <techno156> It's in the crash screen text
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#101 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> Try a force update through the launcher's options menu
#102 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> if that doesn't work, manually update lwjgl.
#103 [04:31] <techno156> java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: -100 ?
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#107 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> It's something with the input device
#108 [04:39] <techno156> ah, ok
#109 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> Check the stack trace
#110 [04:41] <techno156> patsellis' crash log: http://pastebin.com/UibJ9Z6p
#111 [04:43] <patsellis> its a sony laptop, those devices are built in on board.
#112 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> I would update lwjgl. Guessing either lwjgl is corrupt, or outdated and doesn't know how to interpret a key function
#113 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> The lwjgl that's packaged with minecraft is 2.4.2, which has been out for a number of years. It's 2.8.5 now
#114 [04:44] <patsellis> Do you have a direct link?
#115 [04:44] <techno156> hm...
#116 [04:44] <techno156> ??< lwjgl
#117 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> www.lwjgl.org
#118 [04:45] <techno156> ??< index
#119 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> Grab the latest stable release, and update the %appdata%/.minecraft/bin and %appdata%/.minecraft/bin/natives files accordingly with the lwjgl files
#120 [04:46] <patsellis> thank you ill try that appreciate the help :) fingers crossed
#121 [04:46] <GreyVulpine> When you download lwjgl, it'll come in a .zip file. Inside will be 4 folders. The files that you want are in the /jar/ and /natives folders. You'll unzip those into your .minecraft/bin and .minecraft/bin/natives folders respectively
#122 [04:46] <patsellis> ok will do
#123 [04:55] <techno156> I don't suppose this would mean anything? :http://pastebin.com/StBDJdUX
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#125 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Erm... I'd nuke the /bin and resources folders, get a fresh copy of files
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#127 [05:07] <techno156> ok
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#135 [05:47] <Calinou> people using xdcc are not your friends :|
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#149 [07:23] <C0LL3CT1V> Alright
#150 [07:24] <C0LL3CT1V> I am having an issue where my Shgift key doesn't work in-game, but works in chat
#151 [07:24] <C0LL3CT1V> Also, when pressing wasd keys together (i.e wa or wd, sa or sd) they stick
#152 [07:25] <C0LL3CT1V> Additionally, my Ctrl key doesn't work
#153 [07:25] <C0LL3CT1V> Version: 1.4.5 Vanilla Client
#154 [07:25] <C0LL3CT1V> Windows 7 x64 running Java 7
#155 [07:25] <Lutzee> C0LL3CT1V: try this http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#156 [07:26] <C0LL3CT1V> That goes in %appdata%/.minecraft, right?
#157 [07:27] <Lutzee> yes
#158 [07:27] <C0LL3CT1V> Thanks, I'll try that!
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#160 [07:29] <C0LL3CT1V> Lutzee: I got a black screen of death
#161 [07:30] <C0LL3CT1V> owait
#162 [07:30] <C0LL3CT1V> Might help if I pasted the jars too XD
#163 [07:31] <C0LL3CT1V> Yup, pasting the jars helped
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#165 [07:33] <C0LL3CT1V> The new lwjgl didn't work
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#170 [08:11] * Grim_Reaper yawns
#170 [08:14] * Morrolan puts a puppy in Grim_Reaper's throat
#170 [08:14] <Grim_Reaper> o_O
#171 [08:14] * Grim_Reaper tries not to swallow
#171 [08:14] <Morrolan> You better don't close your mouth, unless you want to crush that puppy. :)
#172 [08:14] <Morrolan> (In which case Scott would definitely be angry with you)
#173 [08:14] <Morrolan> Oh, mouth, not throat*
#174 [08:14] * Grim_Reaper coughs it up on Morrolan covered in drool
#174 [08:14] <Morrolan> Eep.
#175 [08:15] <Grim_Reaper> I would hug you. But last time you seemed to complain :p
#176 [08:20] <Morrolan> I do not recall such a thing ever happening. :<
#177 [08:20] <Morrolan> Must've been my alter ego.
#178 [08:21] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
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#195 [09:37] <guy123> why can't i buy minecraft via paypal?
#196 [09:38] <clarjon1> guy123: Paypal was very heavily abused
#197 [09:39] <clarjon1> guy123: People would buy gift keys, sell the keys, then revoke the original paypal transaction, invalidating the key
#198 [09:39] <clarjon1> guy123: Scamming people out of money, so, Mojang decided to put an end to that.
#199 [09:40] <guy123> but i don't want to buy a gift code..shouldn't this work?
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#208 [10:20] <kernymi> anyone here?
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#210 [10:33] <Morrolan> kernymi - Mhm, just ask, though.
#211 [10:34] <kernymi> :/
#212 [10:34] <kernymi> I installed Forge after installing Risugami' ModLoader
#213 [10:34] <kernymi> i got black screens
#214 [10:34] <kernymi> is there something that i did wrong?
#215 [10:36] <TheNoodle> ?? mods
#216 [10:36] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#217 [10:36] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#218 [10:36] <kernymi> nevermind
#219 [10:37] <kernymi> i'll ask somewhere else
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#221 [10:37] <kernymi> thx anyway
#222 [10:37] <kernymi> thx anyway
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#225 [10:40] <R> hello
#226 [10:41] <R> i need some help with knowing how to create a spawn point in single player
#227 [10:41] * R is now known as Guest90206
#228 [10:41] <Guest90206> can somebody help me plesase?
#229 [10:41] <TheNoodle> sleep in a bed
#230 [10:42] <Guest90206> but what happens if i make another bed far away and then i dont find myself back to where i was before?
#231 [10:42] <Guest90206> ?
#232 [10:43] <Morrolan> The game doesn't save a history of beds, so you can't do much about that.
#233 [10:43] <Guest90206> sad faceeeeee
#234 [10:43] <Morrolan> One possibility would be to note down the coordinates of your individual bases, so you can find it again.
#235 [10:44] <Guest90206> but thank you very much
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#237 [10:44] <Morrolan> Apart from that, the *original* spawnpoint can be found with a compass.
#238 [10:44] <Morrolan> And, lastly, if you need to find something again, a map viewer might help.
#239 [10:44] <Guest90206> how do i do that? like the coordinates?
#240 [10:44] <Guest90206> how do i do that? like the coordinates?
#241 [10:44] <Morrolan> Uh, press F3, then a debug screen should pop up.
#242 [10:44] <Morrolan> There's loads of values there, the one you're interested in are the x, y, and z ones.
#243 [10:46] <Guest90206> my f3 is in a mac so my f3 button does anothe thing
#244 [10:47] <Morrolan> Eh, then try some combinations of command key, fn key, alt key ... and F3.
#245 [10:52] <Guest90206> how do i make my map work correctly?
#246 [10:52] <Morrolan> Map?
#247 [10:52] <Guest90206> when i click it it
#248 [10:53] <Guest90206> shows melike of the map
#249 [10:53] <Guest90206> not in the middle
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#251 [10:53] <Morrolan> Not sure what you mean.
#252 [10:53] <Guest90206> and while i move to other places it doesnt load
#253 [10:53] <Morrolan> The map item which you can craft?
#254 [10:53] <Morrolan> That one is like a real map, it shows a specific part of the world only, centered on where you crafted it.
#255 [10:53] <Guest90206> idk im using one that is a blank map in single player
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#265 [11:21] <king_> hello?
#266 [11:22] <king_> Is anybody available?
#267 [11:22] <king_> ????
#268 [11:22] <king_> ???
#269 [11:22] <king_> ??
#270 [11:23] <king_> ?/
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#276 [11:29] <worldmc> but you left
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#301 [12:42] <apxtonic> Hey heress my error can someone help me? I have ID Resolver and it crashes when assigning new ID's http://pastebin.com/u12Euf2U
#302 [12:43] <Calinou> ?? mods
#303 [12:43] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#304 [12:43] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#305 [12:43] <apxtonic> thanks
#306 [12:43] <apxtonic> thanks
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#317 [13:25] <DopeGhoti> !topic -1
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#319 [13:27] <Eddie> -infinity
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#324 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> come again, Eddie?
#325 [13:38] <Eddie> topic -inifinity :3
#326 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> There aren't that many segments in the topic
#327 [13:39] <Eddie> Then it should be intelligent enough to stop at however many there are
#328 [13:39] <Eddie> aka remove everything o:
#329 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> Eddie: that's not how the -${SEGMENT} command works. It removes the ${SEGMENT}th segment.
#330 [13:41] <Eddie> oh
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#332 [13:46] <SinZ> ie: -3 would remove segment 3
#333 [13:46] <Calinou> "Windows 8 issues? Try disabling Metro."
#334 [13:46] <Calinou> you don't remove metro
#335 [13:46] <Calinou> you can only switch to classic desktop :P
#336 [13:47] <DiskDaemon> That metro coment seems to be a joke
#337 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> !topic -6
#338 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> Considering removing {5} as well
#339 [13:49] <SinZ> DopeGhoti: it was a very common request when 1.3 and 1.4 came out
#340 [13:49] <SinZ> and, when 1.5 will come out
#341 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> but
#342 [13:49] <Calinou> remove 5 maybe, yeah
#343 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 4
#344 [13:49] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 4 = We do not support Classic, Pre-Releases, or old versions ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti/regexp | Mon Dec 17 12:21:20 MST 2012 ]
#345 [13:49] <Calinou> people never read topic
#346 [13:50] <Calinou> also, maybe remove warning about pre releases
#347 [13:50] <Calinou> they're made by mojang and are not out of date
#348 [13:50] <SinZ> Calinou: they are more buggy though, and come here for support
#349 [13:50] <DopeGhoti> Yes, but they're not supported until release because of their volatility
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#360 [14:31] <nikdo1nikde> This is a community chat or official Support?
#361 [14:32] <TheNoodle> a combination of the two, community support.
#362 [14:33] <sugoi> nikdo1nikde: not officially official, but we do official things, unofficially
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#364 [14:35] <TheNoodle> we have official helper hats too.
#365 [14:36] * benhunter09 wants a helper hat
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#366 [14:40] <CraftThatBlock> hi
#367 [14:40] <benhunter09> Hello
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#372 [14:45] <helloer> Hello, how i can migrate account without bought minecraft?(I have gift code but i need to migrate to use it....)
#373 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> helloer: go to https://account.mojang.com/migrate
#374 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> that will walk you through the migration process
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#376 [14:46] <helloer> Yeah.. but: Error! You can only migrate your Minecraft account if you have bought Minecraft. Either buy Minecraft first, or just register for a new Mojang account.
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#379 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> helloer: have you yet redeemed your gife code?
#380 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> if not, start the process here: http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#381 [14:48] <helloer> "Migrated gift code. Needs to be redeemed from a Mojang account."
#382 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> the first step would be to register for the account, the link for which is on the page to which I just linked you
#383 [14:50] <Guest16958> hey there I bought minecraft about a year ago. My brother tried to install a mod but it didnt work. Minecraft didnt open so i deleted it and tried to download it again. now it says minecraft is damaged and it wont run! help please
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#385 [14:50] <manolitico> i need some help
#386 [14:50] <manolitico> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1601723-minecraft-freezes-linux-mint-14/
#387 [14:50] <sugoi> Guest16958: can you get to the login screen?
#388 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> ??> Guest16958 mac/gatekeeper
#389 [14:50] <VoxelHead> Guest16958: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#390 [14:50] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: oh, right, 'minecraft is damaged'
#391 [14:50] <Guest16958> yup
#392 [14:51] <sugoi> Guest16958: follow VoxelHead instructions
#393 [14:51] <Lutzee> manolitico: make sure your graphics drivers are decent enough... linux drivers aren't that great at the moment, especially for AMD graphics cards.
#394 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> manolitico: when it freezes, what is the status of the process?
#395 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> also, I would suggest you try sun-JRE6
#396 [14:51] <Lutzee> ^
#397 [14:52] <manolitico> lutzee, radeon ati hd2400 series; 256 ram
#398 [14:52] <sugoi> manolitico: i personally use icedtea 1.7
#399 [14:52] <sugoi> but, ymmv
#400 [14:52] <Lutzee> manolitico: AMD bought ATI, so same company
#401 [14:52] <Guest16958> Ok that didnt work. now it says the application is severely damaged and should be deleted.
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#403 [14:52] <sugoi> manolitico: sorry, typo, i meant: OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.5) (Gentoo build 1.6.0_24-b24)
#404 [14:52] <Lutzee> ??> Guest16958 mac/gatekeeper/disable
#405 [14:52] <VoxelHead> Guest16958: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#406 [14:53] <manolitico> @dopeghoti, the status? i know my interface "freezes", its linux mint, i can open terminals in Ctrl+Alt+F1, that aren't freezed
#407 [14:53] <burgermuffin> hello?
#408 [14:53] <manolitico> @sugoi, tryed OpenJDK6,7 and Oracle Java 7
#409 [14:53] <sugoi> manolitico: right, we're saying the video driver froze
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#411 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> manolitico: okay, good. next time it happens, in a terminal, run `top` and look for a Java process with about a GB of RAM allocated
#412 [14:54] <manolitico> i'm running a server
#413 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> not a client, yes?
#414 [14:54] <sugoi> sorry, i'll stop not-helping
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#416 [14:54] <manolitico> so i have tried to allocated specific memory with and script, with 500mb it fails, with 400 it fails, with 700 it fails, with 300 it fails
#417 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> manolitico: okay, again
#418 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> a few things to try
#419 [14:55] <manolitico> and what am i supposed to see?
#420 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> first, I would try sun-jre6
#421 [14:55] <manolitico> that's oracle java 6?
#422 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#423 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> but the package managers generally still call it sun rather than oracle
#424 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> (I know Ubuntu does; I can't speak for Mint)
#425 [14:56] <Guest16958> that did it thx a lot!
#426 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> Guest16958: glad you're up and running
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#431 [14:59] <nitro_> i purchased minecraft and didnt recieve the account
#432 [14:59] <nitro_> code
#433 [15:00] <CraftThatBlock> You don't recive it
#434 [15:00] <CraftThatBlock> You choose a username on the buy
#435 [15:00] <manolitico> @DopeGhoti downloading java 6
#436 [15:00] <zenon> i trie to play minecraft but when i click on it it says java could not create the virtual machine what should i do ?
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#438 [15:01] <CraftThatBlock> Update/Install Java
#439 [15:01] <CraftThatBlock> And update video drivers
#440 [15:01] <CraftThatBlock> aswell as Windows/Mac/Linux
#441 [15:02] <manolitico> craftthatblock, are you saying me?
#442 [15:02] <zenon> ok im gonna trie
#443 [15:02] <CraftThatBlock> Mac is the best :D
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#446 [15:06] <zenon> bi video driver did you mean like media]
#447 [15:07] <CraftThatBlock> no
#448 [15:08] <zenon> then what
#449 [15:08] <CraftThatBlock> Like nVidia/AMD drivers
#450 [15:08] <zenon> o ok
#451 [15:08] <manolitico> @DopeGhoti, and if it continous freezing, i put top, and i see the ram, or the processor?
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#453 [15:10] <manolitico> @DopeGhoti, and if it continous freezing, i put top, and i see the ram, or the processor?
#454 [15:12] <nitro_> i bought the minecraft and didnt get the online game
#455 [15:12] <sugoi> nitro_: can you log into your account at minecraft.net?
#456 [15:13] <nitro_> yes but no online
#457 [15:13] <sugoi> manolitico: so you only run the server, and when you run it, it causes X to freeze, is that correct?
#458 [15:13] <manolitico> no, the server nothing happens
#459 [15:13] <sugoi> nitro_: have you downloaded the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#460 [15:13] <manolitico> i can run for more than 12 hours
#461 [15:14] <sugoi> manolitico: what fails then?
#462 [15:14] <manolitico> @sugoi, but when i start minecraft even without the server, it freezes in 5-10 minutes, or even in an hour, or even that day not
#463 [15:14] <zenon> ok updating
#464 [15:14] <nitro_> yes
#465 [15:14] <manolitico> i'm downloading oracle java 6
#466 [15:14] <sugoi> manolitico: so your client freezes?
#467 [15:14] <sugoi> is that what you're saying?
#468 [15:14] <manolitico> yes
#469 [15:15] <manolitico> sometimes the entire operative system
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#471 [15:15] <sugoi> manolitico: i thought you said you could switch to a tty? ergo: only X freezes
#472 [15:15] <manolitico> yes
#473 [15:15] <sugoi> manolitico: *nix users can be cool and differentiate the two :)
#474 [15:16] <manolitico> ??
#475 [15:16] <manolitico> sorry for my english, i don't understand that
#476 [15:16] <nitro_> yeah downloaded it like 10minutes ago
#477 [15:17] <sugoi> manolitico: it would be worth updating java, and well as your natives/ (lwjgl), and make sure there are no updates for your video and sound card drivers
#478 [15:17] <sugoi> nitro_: and when you enter your email and password, and click login, what happens next?
#479 [15:17] <manolitico> if i don't update lwjgl, it doesn't boot, black screen, so i have them updated
#480 [15:17] <sugoi> manolitico: ok
#481 [15:17] <nitro_> login fail
#482 [15:17] <sugoi> nitro_: you are using your email?
#483 [15:18] <nitro_> yeah
#484 [15:18] <sugoi> nitro_: can you log in here: https://account.mojang.com/login
#485 [15:18] <manolitico> @sugoi and,my drivers are ok
#486 [15:19] <sugoi> manolitico: does it lock up if you do absolutely nothing? just stand there?
#487 [15:19] <zenon> ho knows how to make java create the virtual machine
#488 [15:19] <sugoi> manolitico: minecraft continues to use latest features of the opengl api, and often drivers are insufficient unlses latest and best
#489 [15:19] <nitro_> yeah but the redeem codes are still up
#490 [15:20] <sugoi> nitro_: so you haven't bought minecraft yet with the code?
#491 [15:20] <sugoi> zenon: what updated?
#492 [15:20] <manolitico> @sugoi, i have everything updated (i think); i'm going to install java 6 now
#493 [15:20] <nitro_> no im waiting on the code to go to my email
#494 [15:21] <sugoi> manolitico: well you are on linux, it simply may not have good enough drivers for your amd card
#495 [15:21] <sugoi> manolitico: but i haven't heard this from others, maybe it is because your distro doesn't have the right amd driver available to you (mint)
#496 [15:21] <manolitico> any distro functions correctly
#497 [15:22] <Lutzee> sugoi: mint is just ubuntu with a better GUI
#498 [15:22] <sugoi> nitro_: did you buy minecraft with a giftcode?
#499 [15:22] <nitro_> nope a credit card
#500 [15:22] <sugoi> manolitico: distro's can maintain their own set of drivers/pkgs
#501 [15:22] <sugoi> Lutzee: ok - heard of this locking issue?
#502 [15:22] <Lutzee> Also like i pointed out AMD drivers are really poor for linux. also the 2400 series is also very old
#503 [15:23] <manolitico> but i tried many distros, and doesn't function correctly, not only debian derivated
#504 [15:23] <sugoi> nitro_: so what "redeem codes" are you talking about? did you buy the game or a gift card?
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#506 [15:23] <manolitico> i can't buy another graphic card
#507 [15:23] <manolitico> when it's possible, i will change my computer
#508 [15:23] <sugoi> manolitico: ah your card is old, well that very well could be the problem too
#509 [15:23] <nitro_> its a redeem gift code
#510 [15:24] <sugoi> minecraft is NOT a simple game (graphically, speaking)
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#513 [15:24] <sugoi> nitro_: is it a gift code or a credit card, you've said both now
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#515 [15:25] <manolitico> @sugoi, some weeks ago, in windows, it funcioned me correctly
#516 [15:25] <nitro_> sorry its a gift code but i bought the game with a credit card
#517 [15:25] <manolitico> i think i haven't installed correctly java
#518 [15:25] <sugoi> manolitico: and linux traditionally doesn't have as good of drivers for amd
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#520 [15:25] <manolitico> @sugoi, some weeks ago, in windows, it funcioned me correctly; i don't know what happens :S
#521 [15:25] <sugoi> manolitico: then feel free to remove java and try again, but note, drivers on linux are NOT as good
#522 [15:26] <sugoi> manolitico: windows has better drivers
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#524 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> there is also the problem of running a server _and_ client on the same machine at the same time
#525 [15:26] <sugoi> nitro_: when you bought the game, i wonder if you bought a gift card, and not the game -- can you use your gift card now (Redeem the code) and purchase the game for yourself
#526 [15:26] <manolitico> some weeks ago it funcioned me correctly, even with the server
#527 [15:27] <manolitico> and only minecraft, without the server also freezes
#528 [15:27] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: yes, but he mentioned 'even without server' - besides, freeze? i wouldn't expect that
#529 [15:27] <sugoi> manolitico: DUDE, we understand -- but your on linux now, drivers are not as good
#530 [15:27] <sugoi> manolitico: do you know what a driver is?
#531 [15:27] <sugoi> you're* on linux now
#532 [15:27] * sugoi dumb your's and you're's
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#533 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: take a breath, mate. (:
#534 [15:28] * Grim_Reaper takes away all of sugoi's breath
#534 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> manolitico: we understand that it was working some time ago, but it's (apparently) not now, and that implies that something changed between then and now.
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#536 [15:28] <manolitico> @sugoi, of course
#537 [15:29] <manolitico> @DopeGhoti, if i do a fresh install of mint, it doesn't function, it freezes
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#539 [15:29] <manolitico> so, what new technologies does minecraft use from 1.4.2?
#540 [15:29] <sugoi> manolitico: has it ever worked on mint before? (or any distro?)
#541 [15:29] <manolitico> @sugoi, yes
#542 [15:29] <nitro_> i clicked on full version and buy for myself/ when i clicked the gift code thing it gave me a screen asking for the code which i dont have
#543 [15:29] <sugoi> manolitico: yeah, it is possible that every releases makes use of a new opengl feature
#544 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> nitro_: okay, let's take a step back. What exactly did you buy, and where did you buy it from?
#545 [15:30] <Lutzee> nitro_: You bought a giftcode online at minecraft.net using your creditcard then?
#546 [15:30] <sugoi> nitro_: when you login to mojang, you said, "the redeem codes are still up"
#547 [15:31] <manolitico> i have reinstalled java
#548 [15:31] <manolitico> i'll try
#549 [15:31] <sugoi> manolitico: can you try 1.4.2 again?
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#551 [15:31] <nitro_> went to minecraft.net regsitered made an account clicked on buy full version of minecraft
#552 [15:31] <sugoi> manolitico: ok, use it w/ 1.4.5 and report
#553 [15:31] <manolitico> @sugoi, i'm going dinner, i'll left minecraft running
#554 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> nitro_: okay. What is the account name you chose?
#555 [15:31] <sugoi> manolitico: ok :)
#556 [15:32] <manolitico> @DopeGhoti, you told me to use top
#557 [15:32] <manolitico> when i found the process, i tell you the cpu % and ram?
#558 [15:32] <nitro_> i used my email as my name
#559 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> manolitico: please.
#560 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> nitro_: did you receive an email to that address with a payment confirmation?
#561 [15:33] <manolitico> ok
#562 [15:33] <FLHerne> DopeGhoti/manolitico: What's the issue?
#563 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> FLHerne: Minecraft client freezing in Linux Mint.
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#565 [15:34] * FLHerne is a Mint user too :-)
#565 [15:34] <nitro_> no it said that i paid for it hasnt sent me a email
#566 [15:35] <Lutzee> nitro_: Okay, can you confirm with your bank if the payment has been debitted to your card please, you can phone the number on the back of the card and ask
#567 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> nitro_: it's possible the payment has not gone through yet, or is still pending
#568 [15:35] <FLHerne> Mine's 1.4.5 on OpenJDK7, 64-bit
#569 [15:36] <nitro_> how long do you think that would take
#570 [15:36] <FLHerne> Although I found 1.2.x only wanted to run on Java 6 :-/
#571 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> nitro_: the phone call? Probably 5 minutes or so
#572 [15:36] <nitro_> the pending if i paid
#573 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> nitro_: it depends. for some people it is instantaneous; for others it can take a couple days.
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#578 [15:59] <manolitico> @sugoi; by the moment, it is running fine
#579 [15:59] <manolitico> 26fps
#580 [16:04] <sugoi> manolitico: ok, good
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#583 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> excellent
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#585 [16:18] <manolitico> @sugoi; i think it's fixed
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#589 [16:29] <sugoi> manolitico: cool
#590 [16:36] <manolitico> @sugoi, without problems
#591 [16:36] <manolitico> i'm going to bed
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#598 [16:48] <FLHerne> When I kill fullscreen Minecraft (on Linux) it hangs and leaves me staring at the menu :-(
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#600 [16:49] <FLHerne> kill -TERM doesn't work, but kill -HUP does
#601 [16:49] <FLHerne> I'm using the Catalyst drivers 12.12, MC 1.4.5
#602 [16:49] <FLHerne> Any ideas?
#603 [16:50] <char> hello ,my minecraft anit work it keeps coming up with pixel formart
#604 [16:50] <Morrolan> Chances are you'll have to update your graphics driver.
#605 [16:50] <char> okay thank you
#606 [16:51] <Morrolan> char - If you're not sure how to do so, then you can provide us with a dxdiag, and we'll link you to the appropriate place.
#607 [16:51] <Morrolan> ?? win/dxdiag
#608 [16:51] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#609 [16:51] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#611 [16:58] <char> yes can you do that morrolan
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#613 [17:00] <char> still not working
#614 [17:00] <Morrolan> char - Aye, follow VoxelHead's instructions, and I'll be able to provide you with a link.
#615 [17:00] <Morrolan> (Or I might be able to tell you that, with your graphics card, you won't be able to run the game.)
#616 [17:01] <char> what is the bvoxel1head's instructions
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#618 [17:02] <Morrolan> Look up a few lines. There you'll see two lines, written by VoxelHead.
#619 [17:02] <Morrolan> Those are instructions. Follow them, for they represent the light side.
#620 [17:02] <char> i clicked it now what
#621 [17:03] <Morrolan> Now read the rest of VoxelHead's instructions.
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#625 [17:03] <char> i dont get it
#626 [17:04] <Morrolan> Where are you stuck, then?
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#628 [17:04] <Dracora> I'm having difficulty activating a nether portals in creative mode since this last update.
#629 [17:04] <char> on it all how do i uodate my grafics
#630 [17:04] <Morrolan> char - That I'll be able to tell you once you provided me with a DxDiag.
#631 [17:05] <Morrolan> Dracora - Uh, did you check the wiki's buglist whether that's a known one?
#632 [17:05] <Morrolan> ?? buglist
#633 [17:05] <VoxelHead> buglist: A list of known bugs can be found on the Minecraft wiki: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/latest
#634 [17:05] <Morrolan> Oh, write, Mojang is using Jira now.
#635 [17:06] <Dracora> I didn't see the specific issue that I'm having, but I wanted to make certain I had encountered an actual bug rather than doing something stupid.
#636 [17:06] <Morrolan> ??~ buglist|Mojang's official bugtracker can be found at https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC
#637 [17:06] <Morrolan> Dracora - Well, assuming you are doing it the "normal" way, that is lighting a 4x5 frame of obsidian, you should be fine.
#638 [17:06] <Morrolan> Dracora - At least I am not aware of any changes to that. THough I haven't played MC 1.4.x much.
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#640 [17:07] <Dracora> That's the problem, I can't activate it at all. I can't light it. =/ I can't even make the fire animation show up.
#641 [17:07] <Dracora> I've tried lava and flint.
#642 [17:07] <Dracora> The dimensions are right...
#643 [17:07] <Morrolan> Singleplayer, or multiplayer?
#644 [17:08] <Dracora> Single player, creative mode
#645 [17:08] <|Anthony|> I'm trying to figure out how iron and chain armor stack up. I know that they are equally durable, and that iron is slightly more defensive. I'm confused about the Enchantability
#646 [17:08] <|Anthony|> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Armor#Enchantability
#647 [17:09] <Morrolan> Dracora - Still works for me like it used to do. Are you using any mods?
#648 [17:09] <|Anthony|> chain is slightly more enchantable... but what does that mean exactly?
#649 [17:09] <Dracora> I tried a skin awhile back, but I haven't used any mods other than that and the skin isn't active at the moment.
#650 [17:09] <Dracora> So, vanilla here.
#651 [17:10] <Dracora> I've also noticed that I can't even light the trees on fire with flint but that lava works for them.
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#653 [17:11] <Morrolan> Dracora - You are using a Flint & Steel item, and not merely a piece of flint, aren't you?
#654 [17:11] <dsoxygen> had someone tryed to copy and paste buildcraft constructions with worldedit?
#655 [17:11] <Dracora> Probably not, onesec. Let me double check
#656 [17:12] <Morrolan> |Anthony| - If my memory serves me right, a random value between 0 and Enchantability gets added to the enchanted item's value.
#657 [17:12] <Morrolan> |Anthony| - That is, as a bonus to the base value which is determined by your experience level.
#658 [17:13] * |Anthony| 's head spins
#658 [17:13] <Dracora> Thank you, I feel like an idiot but its working now. Wasn't using the right item after searching around in creative. Shouldn't lava work for it too though, or not quite?
#659 [17:13] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enchantment_mechanics#Step_One_-_Applying_modifiers_to_the_enchantment_level is probably a better, and more correct, explanation, |Anthony|.
#660 [17:13] <Morrolan> Dracora - Lava will not work to create a portal, I believe.
#661 [17:13] <Morrolan> Dracora - And glad that I could help. :)
#662 [17:14] <|Anthony|> thanks Morrolan, i'll look there
#663 [17:14] <Dracora> Interesting. Duly noted. I hate setting my worlds on fire so its rare that I ever use flint and steel for anything. XD
#664 [17:15] <Morrolan> Dracora - Heh.
#665 [17:16] <Morrolan> s/write/right
#666 [17:16] <Morrolan> What an odd typo that was. Don't you dare writing like you speak, Morrolan!
#667 [17:17] <|Anthony|> lol
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#672 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> Dracora: some minecrafters just want to watch the world burn.
#673 [17:28] <|Anthony|> lol, so long as it isn't theirs
#674 [17:31] <Dracora> Yeswell, I like burning. I just don't like it when its my forest/house/redstone contraptions/other things I've worked hard for.
#675 [17:31] <Dracora> If I want to watch the world burn, I make a new world, then dump a bucket of lava in the forest somewhere
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#682 [17:50] <BrickViking> hello all.
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#684 [17:51] <BrickViking> I'm trying to diagnose a slowness problem of an area. How do I kill off all friendly mobs from console?
#685 [17:51] <itz_unique> i deleted my email and i cant recover my password now
#686 [17:51] <BrickViking> (or hostile mobs, for that matter)
#687 [17:52] <itz_unique> do /killall
#688 [17:52] <itz_unique> something like that
#689 [17:52] <BrickViking> thanks.
#690 [17:52] <itz_unique> i deleted my email and i cant recover my password now
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#692 [17:53] <BrickViking> now I've got to find out how that behaves...
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#699 [18:02] <Marc_IRL> Does anyone have a non premium minecraft account laying around?
#700 [18:02] <Marc_IRL> I can't create one anymore, unfortunately, and I need to test something
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#702 [18:04] <NinjaKirby> O_o Not I, unforunately
#703 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - Yes?
#704 [18:05] <Marc_IRL> Can you give me the login error that happens if you try to log in with a non premium account?
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#706 [18:06] <Marc_IRL> I remember it being fairly basic. But I was going to create an article that specificly addresses it, since there's some confusion on the site right now.
#707 [18:06] <Marc_IRL> Basically differentiating an account that is not premium, versus someone who has logged in with the wrong, unpaid account (which happens ALL the time).
#708 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> The three error messages of the launcher.
#709 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/V1pYh.png
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#711 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> I use that picture quite often here
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#713 [18:07] <Marc_IRL> Excellent, thanks
#714 [18:07] <Marc_IRL> Also, Dinnerbone is in the help chat now? If that IS his real name.
#715 [18:07] * Marc_IRL eyes Dinnerbone suspiciously
#715 [18:07] <Dinnerbone> :(
#716 [18:07] * Dinnerbone stabs Marc_IRL in the suspicious eyes
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#717 [18:08] <BrickViking> hi Dinnerbone
#718 [18:08] <Marc_IRL> :o
#719 [18:08] * Lutzee had overlooked that Nathan had joined here
#719 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - Don't suppose you're getting the "I get a not downloaded error" in response to "What error are you getting?"
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#721 [18:09] <Marc_IRL> Not usually, but I know what causes that
#722 [18:09] <Lutzee> GreyVulpine: I see our favourite webdev has also rejoined IRC ;)
#723 [18:09] <Marc_IRL> Mollstam?
#724 [18:09] <Marc_IRL> :p
#725 [18:09] <Lutzee> Yes, of course :p
#726 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> We sure its him?
#727 [18:10] <Lutzee> GreyVulpine: The IP routes back to central Stockholm
#728 [18:10] <Marc_IRL> You and your creepy internet magic
#729 [18:10] <Marc_IRL> Where am I showing from?
#730 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, but he did let his nick reg expire.
#731 [18:11] <Lutzee> wa
#732 [18:11] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: Seattle,, Tacoma area?
#733 [18:12] <Marc_IRL> Close enough!
#734 [18:12] <Lutzee> Or Federal Way?
#735 [18:12] <BrickViking> psst. If you'd said "Earth" he would have said "Close enough!" too.
#736 [18:13] <Marc_IRL> North seattle
#737 [18:13] <Marc_IRL> Not like if I told you any of you could get to this coffee shop fast enough :p
#738 [18:13] <Lutzee> Closest you can get is the closest exchange
#739 [18:13] <Marc_IRL> And not like I wouldn't bearhug most of you anyway, haha
#740 [18:13] <Lutzee> And i had noticed you weren't at home:P you have comcast internet
#741 [18:14] <Marc_IRL> O_o
#742 [18:14] <Marc_IRL> Indeed. Though I suppose that's super easy to figure out, even for me.
#743 [18:14] <Lutzee> IRC shows hostmasks if you have one
#744 [18:16] <Marc_IRL> While I'm overhauling a few articles, are there any that've been giving you trouble lately? Besides no anchors in the tech support article (which I'm doing today, probably).
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#746 [18:17] <Marc_IRL> I also just realized that some of those articles are a bit outdated, given that a lot of new minecraft purchases are through Mojang accounts.
#747 [18:17] <Marc_IRL> I think that system is in for a bigger overhaul soon
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#749 [18:21] <SinZ> Marc_IRL: Im assuming there is still no ETA for when we can change minecraft display/username
#750 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Oh, one thing I'd like to add. We've gotten the question of, "How/when do I register a Minecraft username?", "Is my email address my username as well?"
#751 [18:21] <Marc_IRL> SinZ: No, I have no information on this, unfortunately.
#752 [18:21] <Lutzee> ^ I think a step when purchasing that emphasises that you get to choose a username after the payment
#753 [18:22] <Marc_IRL> All I can say is that the new web API is further along now than it was before. There are some systems that needed to be overhauled before username changes can happen.
#754 [18:22] <SinZ> I remember in the classic days, it was possible, just had to email notch, and you could transfer the paid status to a different account
#755 [18:23] <Marc_IRL> GreyVulpine: I know, these questions are the bane of my existence. Some unclear stuff on the site, some leftover minecraft.net stuff when most payments are on mojang.com, and a lot of people used to the old system.
#756 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> You and me both. I still haven't migrated my minecraft.net to a mojang one.
#757 [18:23] <Marc_IRL> Lutzee: It can maybe be made more clear, but Mojang.com is not a portal for Minecraft, but for all Mojang game purchases. Eventually, it will be seen that way, and it'll be more obvious that you have to buy a game to get a username.
#758 [18:24] <Marc_IRL> Like, if Scrolls were out, you couldn't register a Scrolls name and -then- purchase.
#759 [18:24] <SinZ> Proof of concept that it was possible, the account youlikethaaaat says false with haspaid.jsp, but has a skin.
#760 [18:24] <Marc_IRL> It's just some growing pains from the transition to Mojang accounts
#761 [18:25] <Marc_IRL> SinZ: Back then, he probably got like 50 emails a day. We get 300. I will not be adding status transfers, especially when support is behind.
#762 [18:25] <Marc_IRL> Additionally, you can no longer register a non-premium account.
#763 [18:25] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: doesn't have to say minecraft, having it say "You will be able to choose usernames for your games after the purchase is complete"
#764 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, we noticed that too
#765 [18:25] <SinZ> Marc_IRL: what about for classic?
#766 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, people still play classic?
#767 [18:26] <Marc_IRL> Lutzee: There is a giant green box that tells you basically this, once you've paid
#768 [18:26] <Marc_IRL> SinZ: What about classic?
#769 [18:26] <SinZ> Marc_IRL: if you cant make non-premium accounts, how would you play classic
#770 [18:26] <Marc_IRL> SinZ: Classic is not supported
#771 [18:26] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: I know there is, but people dont seem to realise, i think it should say before you hit the payment details stage
#772 [18:27] <Lutzee> SinZ: You dont need an account at all to play classic
#773 [18:27] <SinZ> Lutzee: classic multiplayer?
#774 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> Lutzee: yeah, you just need to know an unlisted URL and to have a stubborn streak
#775 [18:27] <SinZ> I cant seem to join a server without being logged in
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#777 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> Honestly, to me, folks that still want to play Classic feel to me like the folks that keep Windows 3.0 around so they can play Reversi
#778 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> (to be fair, it took me a while to warm up to Minesweeper)
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#780 [18:29] <SinZ> there is some amazing classic server software available, that no minecraft mod has been able to compete with
#781 [18:29] <aj_> is minecraft site crashed right now
#782 [18:29] <aj_> or is it mwe
#783 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Oh, another thing. mentioning that the xbox/PE/PC versions are all seperate, and that you won't get all three by paying for just one.
#784 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> !isdown
#785 [18:29] <GreyBot> DopeGhoti: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#786 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> aj_: seems okay from here, sir or ma'am or other
#787 [18:29] <Marc_IRL> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/minecraft.net
#788 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: that's what GreyBot checks (:
#789 [18:30] <Marc_IRL> :p
#790 [18:30] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: I was quite annoyed with that when pocket edition and XBLA came out, as the alpha agreement said we got all future versions for free
#791 [18:30] * GreyVulpine mehs and shrugs
#791 [18:30] <Marc_IRL> Reeeeeeeally
#792 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> ??> SinZ alphabenefits
#793 [18:30] <VoxelHead> SinZ: (alphabenefits) http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/600767-purchases-made-during-alpha
#794 [18:30] <Marc_IRL> Let's forget that I'm an employee for a second. As a long time player, that statement irritates me.
#795 [18:31] <SinZ> I really dont feel like diving through notchs blog finding the statement
#796 [18:31] <Marc_IRL> I know exactly what statement you're talking about
#797 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> SinZ: seriously; read that article
#798 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> also, if you wanted MCPE, it was on the Google Play store for $0.1 for a whole month
#799 [18:32] <Marc_IRL> I wrote that article so that I could just point people at it, so I could stop being unhappy with people. There were some people who got really nasty because they were convinced that we owed them free copies of every minecraft game that ever came out on any device.
#800 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> I remember digging up that article for you.
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#802 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: I understand how you feel
#803 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Hey Marc.. so, for a christmas present, we're all getting corporate teamviewer accounts as a thanks from Mojang, right? :P
#804 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: what advantages does a corporate TV license give over the noncommercial one we know and love?
#805 [18:33] <aj_> thats weird
#806 [18:33] <Marc_IRL> I mean, it's not like we can walk up to 4J and be like, guys, I know you made Minecraft all over again from scratch on a new system, using your employees, but a few of our customers read a bit too much into Notch's blog post two years ago, and so we have to make you give your game for free.
#807 [18:33] <aj_> its works in pc but not mac '
#808 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> I can't tell you how many times teamviewer's yelled/timed me out because it thinks I'm doing commercial-level remote tech support
#809 [18:33] <Marc_IRL> GreyVulpine: Yes, it's coming with my Camaro :D
#810 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Hah!
#811 [18:34] <aj_> anyone getting on inmac
#812 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - Do it enough times now, it'll disconnect after 5 minutes for a session
#813 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> aj_: on a mac here and the site's working just fine
#814 [18:34] <aj_> ok thx
#815 [18:34] <SinZ> Marc_IRL: just dug up the blog post, it said updates, I swear it said versions last time I read it.
#816 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: oh 'joy'
#817 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: time to start using crosslop then
#818 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> er, crossloop
#819 [18:35] <Lutzee> SinZ: The blogpost is linked on the help topic on the help website..
#820 [18:35] <Marc_IRL> Whatever the wording, we all KNOW what he meant.
#821 [18:35] <Marc_IRL> The only Minecraft game in existance at the time, the one he was creating and people bought, updates for that.
#822 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> if Notch / Mojang were of a mind to, the Nether could have been DLC rather than just an expansion
#823 [18:35] <Lutzee> Notch was not expecting the game to be made on 3 other platforms when he made the blogpost.
#824 [18:35] <SinZ> and I only really felt that way for a week after the new versions/platforms were available
#825 [18:36] <Marc_IRL> Lutzee: Right. And so he didn't have a lawyer go over his blog post with a comb. He did it in good faith, as a small indie developer.
#826 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> (I am not saying that non-aplha-folks should have paid more for the Nether)
#827 [18:36] <Lutzee> Exactly
#828 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> (just saying that that is the sort of thing that the arrangement might cover)
#829 [18:37] <Marc_IRL> Adventure update could have been DLC too
#830 [18:37] <Marc_IRL> That added so much stuff
#831 [18:37] <SinZ> and the upcoming redstone update
#832 [18:37] <Warfar> dlc is the worst shit in the universe
#833 [18:37] <Marc_IRL> I know I get sort of preachy sometimes, but I have the weird position of being an avid player of the game for two years before being hired. The fact that the company still releases regular, awesome, content filled updates is AMAZING.
#834 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Warfar: wellll, to be fair, proper old-school expansion packs aren't a bad thing
#835 [18:38] <Warfar> im talking about the ones you see on steam
#836 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> though I dislike how every modern game seems to have to have extra monetization built-in
#837 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> but we digress
#838 [18:38] <SinZ> The DLC's where they were developed before the game came out, just to be released later for money, is stupid
#839 [18:38] <Marc_IRL> Warfar: DLC isn't inherently bad. It allows companies to release content post-launch, and someone has to pay developer/producer/etcetcetc wages. Oblivion's Horse Armor was lame DLC. It's Shivering Isles was amazing DLC.
#840 [18:38] * Lutzee remembers collecting all the sims 2 expansions
#840 [18:38] <Marc_IRL> And yes, monetization EVERYWHERE is ugly.
#841 [18:39] <Warfar> I'm saying making you pay more than the game to get all the DLC is bad
#842 [18:39] <SinZ> the Age of Empires expansions were good
#843 [18:39] <Marc_IRL> SinZ: But between finishing the game and having the discs made is often like a two month process. So, that's where we get a lot of day 1 DLC.
#844 [18:39] <Marc_IRL> A lot of gamers don't understand that, and so there's backlash.
#845 [18:40] <SinZ> Warcraft III had an amazing expansion also
#846 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: there's that sort of day 1 DLC, and there's "unlock stuff already on the disc 6 months later" DLC
#847 [18:40] <Lutzee> I like how Guildwars has its accounts system and expansions sorted, there was the 4 expansions, but you could play each without having the other, and the online store only had "novelty" items for sale that weren't essential to the game
#848 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> Diablo II: expansions done properly
#849 [18:40] <Marc_IRL> DopeGhoti: And unlocking stuff already on the disk should be a policy that dies in a fire. But I don't think it's as common as people think it is.
#850 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - Oh, think you could write up an article giving mojang links to older versions of minecraft and instructions on how to use it?
#851 [18:41] <SinZ> ie http://assets.minecraft.net/version/minecraft.jar
#852 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> ^
#853 [18:42] <Marc_IRL> But we don't host older versions, do we?
#854 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> You do now.
#855 [18:42] <SinZ> you do
#856 [18:42] <SinZ> beta 1.8 is on that server
#857 [18:42] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: assets.minecraft.net go read through that xml file
#858 [18:42] <SinZ> any version that had a pre-release for it is on it
#859 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> ?? oldversion/list
#860 [18:42] <VoxelHead> oldversion/list: A list of all Minecraft binary files which are hosted publicly by Mojang can be found here: https://pastebin.com/gwrQrQL9
#861 [18:43] <Lutzee> That needs a bit of an update its missing some now
#862 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> if it's not Mojang's intent to allow old versions to be downloaded at all, I can remove that
#863 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> It's a very common question, right after a new version's released.
#864 [18:44] <SinZ> I was actually planning on using those links for a modpack launcher if I were to make one
#865 [18:44] <Lutzee> It is, with servers that run bukkit being the most popular, it takes a week or so for them to update and people accidentally hit update
#866 [18:44] <SinZ> Lutzee: and people that use mods
#867 [18:45] <Lutzee> People who use mods generally know that updating will remove the mod from the client
#868 [18:45] <SinZ> alot of idiots that use mods
#869 [18:46] <SinZ> though some of the smarter launchers designed for mods withhold updates
#870 [18:46] <BrickViking> yah.
#871 [18:46] <BrickViking> mine does just that
#872 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> ..the vanilla launcher has made updates optional for a long, long time now
#873 [18:46] <Marc_IRL> Hrm, that seems like an update that could maybe happen to Minecraft.net
#874 [18:46] <SinZ> DopeGhoti: they see the pretty update button
#875 [18:46] * Corin is now known as Corin|Away
#876 [18:46] <Lutzee> Yes, MultiMC uses MCnostaglia to downgrade
#877 [18:46] <Marc_IRL> I'll email Tobias and see what he says
#878 [18:47] <BrickViking> sigh. I prefer the SKMCLauncher or the DigiEx launcher way...
#879 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: I'd much prefer to point to www.minecraft.net/lecacy-releases/ or somesuch
#880 [18:47] <SinZ> and you get asked every time you launch MC for the update, which gets annoying
#881 [18:47] <BrickViking> i.e. each jar gets a different name, you start each version up as you need.
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#883 [18:48] <Marc_IRL> It all depends on if they're willing to update the site every week or so
#884 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: as it is now, we are very careful about third-party sources and backchannel distribution of Minecraft code, as per the ToS
#885 [18:48] <SinZ> Marc_IRL: they do it anyway atm
#886 [18:48] <Marc_IRL> DopeGhoti: Yeah, good, I'm wary of that too
#887 [18:48] <SinZ> it would be done at the same time of the blog posts
#888 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: it wouldn't need weekly updates if the sitecode just adds a link to each file in the releases/ directory or somesuch. (:
#889 [18:48] <SinZ> could also be automatically generated from the assets.minecraft.net xml page
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#891 [19:05] <Eddie> For England, James?
#892 [19:07] <NinjaKirby> No. For me.
#893 [19:07] * NinjaKirby let's go of you
#893 [19:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> lets*
#894 [19:07] <NinjaKirby> Correction accepted and noted.
#895 [19:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> let's = let us
#896 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> I know, it's just..... ARGH
#897 [19:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> :)
#898 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> You know deep down, your wrong though. Ill show you yet.
#899 [19:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> you're
#900 [19:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> I'll
#901 [19:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> :)
#902 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> "you,"
#903 [19:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> what
#904 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> Whatre you try'ing to insinuate?
#905 [19:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> ....
#906 [19:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> now you're just trolling
#907 [19:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#908 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> I was before that, as well.
#909 [19:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
#910 [19:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> D:
#911 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> augh mine eyees.
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#913 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> lol, what is going on.
#914 [19:10] <NinjaKirby> What're they called again, Conjunctions?
#915 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> your make'ing Grammarical errs.
#916 [19:11] <NinjaKirby> Much like American & British English, I'm merely speaking Tinterwebz English.
#917 [19:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> NinjaKirby: contraction
#918 [19:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> don't = contraction
#919 [19:11] <NinjaKirby> Ah, Thank you.
#920 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> We don't take kindly to that kind of language 'round these parts, NinjaKirby.
#921 [19:12] * VoxelHead gives DopeGhoti a rope.
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#922 [19:12] * NinjaKirby pauses
#922 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> Think I'm gonna take an early night, enjoy the remainder of your Day/Night folks.
#923 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> y'all come back now, y'hear?
#924 [19:15] <NinjaKirby> I usually do, and just get in the way, hehe.
#925 [19:15] <SinZ> NinjaKirby: gotta love internet time
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#928 [19:15] <NinjaKirby> SinZ: Indeed, but if I put off Xmas shopping any longer I'll be kicking myself.
#929 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> SinZ: relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time
#930 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> Gotta get up early, hit the Central Shopping centre.
#931 [19:18] <SinZ> DopeGhoti: Neat..
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#933 [19:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> DopeGhoti: thats pretty cool
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#939 [19:34] <Cripples_Master> can someone help me with a major problem
#940 [19:34] <Cripples_Master> my programs are all opening in notepad and i wanted to know how to play minecraft when it opens like that
#941 [19:35] <Lutzee> Er, Is the notepad document full of readable(ish) text?
#942 [19:35] <BrickViking> quick question... my wife plays minecraft (yay), but her computer's slow. One of the most annoying problem is that she can't do really short clicks.
#943 [19:36] <Cripples_Master> yes
#944 [19:36] <Lutzee> Cripples_Master: or do you mean all programs?
#945 [19:36] <BrickViking> as a result, the minecraft client keeps thinking she's trying to double-click.
#946 [19:36] <Cripples_Master> all programs open in it but internet still works i just wanna play minecraft man
#947 [19:36] <Lutzee> BrickViking: I've had that put down to a dodgy mouse before
#948 [19:36] <BrickViking> this isn't dodgy mouse. It's any mouse she uses.
#949 [19:37] <Lutzee> Cripples_Master: right, it sounds like you have your file extensions all broken :/ one second
#950 [19:37] <BrickViking> Actually, I haven't described it too well...
#951 [19:38] <Lutzee> Cripples_Master: how confident are you with PCs?
#952 [19:38] <BrickViking> it's the length of time she's holding the button down, the program thinks she's clicking for heaps of time...
#953 [19:39] <Cripples_Master> im ok. above average and with instructions i think i can do it
#954 [19:39] <BrickViking> and she can't get it much shorter...
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#956 [19:40] <Lutzee> Cripples_Master: okay well the fix will be changing a value in your PCs registry, which is the backbone of the windows operating system, i can make the fix remotely using teamviewer or i can explain it to you it is your choice
#957 [19:40] <BrickViking> what I'd like to know is, is there a way to make her clicks always register as short, even though she ends up holding the button down for a longish time?
#958 [19:40] <Cripples_Master> teamviewer sounds better but how long will it take i have to get off in a little while
#959 [19:41] <Lutzee> Cripples_Master: couple of minutes tops
#960 [19:41] <Lutzee> ?? teamviewer
#961 [19:41] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#962 [19:41] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
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#964 [19:41] <Cripples_Master> ok lets do it
#965 [19:41] <Oxymoron> Is it just me, or does the keyboard sometime not respond when playing Minecraft?
#966 [19:42] <Oxymoron> I know how to fix it, but it happens again after a while.
#967 [19:42] <Cripples_Master> Lutzee??
#968 [19:42] <Lutzee> one second
#969 [19:43] <Cripples_Master> oh
#970 [19:43] <Lutzee> Download teamviewer and press run
#971 [19:43] <Cripples_Master> what if it opens in notepad
#972 [19:43] <Lutzee> o
#973 [19:43] <Cripples_Master> security scan now
#974 [19:44] <Lutzee> I didn't think that far ahead
#975 [19:44] <Cripples_Master> as long as i dont close it the first time it opens shouldnt be notepad
#976 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> what version of Windows?
#977 [19:44] <Cripples_Master> nope it opened in notepad
#978 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: do you know what version of Windows you are using?
#979 [19:45] <Oxymoron> @Fish Me?
#980 [19:45] <Oxymoron> NVM. :p
#981 [19:45] <Cripples_Master> i thinks its seven
#982 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> okay, try this
#983 [19:45] <Cripples_Master> im pretty sure its windows seven and brb
#984 [19:46] <Oxymoron> You can easily find the version by going to Start --> Computer --> Right click and then properties.
#985 [19:46] <Oxymoron> I think so at least.
#986 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> click the start menu, and search for 'cmd'. right-click it and select 'Run as Administrator'
#987 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> let me know when you have gotten that far, Cripples_Master
#988 [19:46] <Oxymoron> Oh, do you have any idea why the keyboard would sometimes not respond when playing Minecraft?
#989 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> Oxymoron: is this a laptop?
#990 [19:47] <Oxymoron> It's a simple fix really, but it happens again after a while.
#991 [19:47] <Cripples_Master> run as administrator is not an option
#992 [19:47] <Oxymoron> Well, yes. But it's happened on a desktop too.
#993 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: is 'run' an option?
#994 [19:47] <Oxymoron> I'm on a Mac BTW.
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#996 [19:47] <Oxymoron> It's happened when playing on an iMac, and MBP.
#997 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> Oxymoron: hmm, I've not heard of that happening on a Mac.. What version of OS X?
#998 [19:47] <Cripples_Master> no only open is
#999 [19:48] <Oxymoron> Mountain Lion.
#1000 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> Oxymoron: have you checked for software updates lately?
#1001 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: try open.. it may still open in Notepad though
#1002 [19:48] <Oxymoron> I can temporarily fix it by pressing Command + Space to open Spotight, then Command + Space to close it again. The keyboard seems to work after that.
#1003 [19:48] <Cripples_Master> notepad
#1004 [19:49] <Oxymoron> Updates? No.
#1005 [19:49] <Lutzee> we should be able to get it open using batch right?
#1006 [19:49] <Oxymoron> Hold on.
#1007 [19:49] <Cripples_Master> if i go on another account on here notepad doesnt do this but its my sisters laptop so go figure
#1008 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: okay.. if you just open the Start menu, do you see an entry for 'Default Programs'?
#1009 [19:50] <Oxymoron> There are a couple updates available. But they're for camera compatibility and iTunes. XD
#1010 [19:50] <Cripples_Master> you mean like in control panel?
#1011 [19:50] <Oxymoron> It's nothing major really...
#1012 [19:50] <Cripples_Master> i got it
#1013 [19:50] <Oxymoron> Not that it affects gameplay too much.
#1014 [19:50] <Oxymoron> Just wondering.
#1015 [19:51] <Cripples_Master> DopeGhoti i have default programs open now
#1016 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> okay, now go into the first option
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#1019 [19:51] <Cripples_Master> i did already
#1020 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: now select Notepad on the left
#1021 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> then Choose Defaults for this program
#1022 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> if I remember correctly, I think there should be an option to reset to default
#1023 [19:52] <Cripples_Master> notepad isnt there only wordpad
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#1025 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#1026 [19:53] <Lutzee> Can we try opening command prompt using batch then?
#1027 [19:54] <Lutzee> or even better straight into regedit?
#1028 [19:54] <Cripples_Master> i can open the command prompt but itll take a little bit for notepad
#1029 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: oh, you can get to the command prompt?
#1030 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> Please do
#1031 [19:54] <Cripples_Master> what do i search to get it again?
#1032 [19:55] <Lutzee> cmd
#1033 [19:55] <Cripples_Master> it opened the minecraft prompt earlier
#1034 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> 'cmd'
#1035 [19:55] <Cripples_Master> and then what option?
#1036 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> run
#1037 [19:55] <Cripples_Master> run isnt an option remember
#1038 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> okay, try this:
#1039 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> hold down the Windows key (between Ctrl and Alt) and press R
#1040 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> then in that box, type 'cmd' and click run
#1041 [19:56] <Cripples_Master> cant i open the command menu for the whole computer and find notepads prompt in there?
#1042 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> (or open)
#1043 [19:56] <Cripples_Master> the buttons after i typed it are OK,Cancel,and Browse
#1044 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> I'm trying to get you to a command prompt in order to fix this for you (:
#1045 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> click OK
#1046 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> hopefully a mostly black window will open
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#1048 [19:57] <Cripples_Master> openede in notepad
#1049 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> times like this I wish I had a Windows VM
#1050 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> I'm ona Mac right now, so I am working from memory
#1051 [19:58] <BrickViking> sigh. looks like .exe has been remapped to open with notepad.
#1052 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> BrickViking: exactly
#1053 [19:58] <Lutzee> So batch probably wont work :/
#1054 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: ah, try this:
#1055 [19:58] <Cripples_Master> i have the command window open
#1056 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: press ctrl+alt+del, and from the screen that appears, select Task Manager
#1057 [19:58] <Cripples_Master> for cmd
#1058 [19:58] * BrickViking can't remember how the whole extension remapping thing works.
#1058 [19:59] <BrickViking> Cripples_Master: how'd you manage THAT?
#1059 [19:59] <Lutzee> BrickViking: its registry values
#1060 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> wait, you got the command prompt open?
#1061 [19:59] <BrickViking> yah. Accessible through where, though? Explorer?
#1062 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> i. e. the mostly black window?
#1063 [19:59] <Cripples_Master> yeah shift and right click oin desktop
#1064 [19:59] <Lutzee> this http://0.tqn.com/d/databases/1/0/5/8/CommandPrompt.jpg
#1065 [19:59] <Cripples_Master> says C:\Users\KatlynAshlee\Desktop>
#1066 [20:00] <Lutzee> okay
#1067 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> perfect!
#1068 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> type this exactly:
#1069 [20:00] <Cripples_Master> and the title of the windoiw has cmd in it
#1070 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> sfc /scannow
#1071 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> and press enter
#1072 [20:01] <mollstam> Marc_IRL: yo
#1073 [20:01] <Marc_IRL> Heyo
#1074 [20:01] <Cripples_Master> says i must be an administrator running a console session. this is the only account on here so how am i not an administrator
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#1077 [20:01] <Lutzee> Ahhh
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#1079 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> argh I hate UAC
#1080 [20:02] <BrickViking> Yah. you ain't kidding.
#1081 [20:02] <Lutzee> I'm thinking this might have to be resolved in safemode
#1082 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: when did this start happening?
#1083 [20:02] <Cripples_Master> id be able to concentrate more if santa werent riding a fire truck through my neighborhood
#1084 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> Lutzee: either that, or reverting to a restore point. please let there be a recent restore point.
#1085 [20:02] <Lutzee> Should i go hop into ##windows on freenode and ask?
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#1087 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: how long ago did everything start opening in Notepad?
#1088 [20:03] <Cripples_Master> this has been happening for about a month and a half
#1089 [20:03] <Cripples_Master> hey
#1090 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> okay
#1091 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> just in case we need it, keep this window open
#1092 [20:03] <Cripples_Master> task manager says im running a console session
#1093 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> stay with me, Cripples_Master (:
#1094 [20:04] <Cripples_Master> and command prompt said i wasnt
#1095 [20:04] <Cripples_Master> ok
#1096 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> click on the start menu again, and type 'system restore', and press enter
#1097 [20:04] <Cripples_Master> opened in notepad
#1098 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> okay
#1099 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> back in that text window
#1100 [20:05] <Cripples_Master> huh
#1101 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> type "rsturi.exe'
#1102 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> sorry, I mistyped that
#1103 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> "rstrui.exe"
#1104 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> and please tell me it did not open in notepad (:
#1105 [20:06] <Cripples_Master> the beginning of the text?
#1106 [20:06] <BrickViking> that may not correct the extension mappings.
#1107 [20:06] <Lutzee> Cripples_Master: in the command prompt window (cmd)
#1108 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> BrickViking: if it's been happening for a month and a half, I"m hoping for a two month old restore point
#1109 [20:06] <Cripples_Master> oh
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#1111 [20:07] <Cripples_Master> notepad
#1112 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> okay
#1113 [20:07] <Cripples_Master> the cake broke my computer
#1114 [20:07] <clarjon1> ,,,
#1115 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> I'm afraid your computer is too far gone for us to be able to help you from here
#1116 [20:07] <Lutzee> Cripples_Master: Do you have another PC you can connect here from?
#1117 [20:07] <Lutzee> connect to here*
#1118 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> This sort of thing, you really need someone physically at the computer.
#1119 [20:08] <Cripples_Master> yeah but i dont have the password for it
#1120 [20:08] <Lutzee> :/
#1121 [20:08] <Cripples_Master> DOPEGHOTI would i be able to run systemrestore on a guest account?
#1122 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: no, you need administrative privileges
#1123 [20:08] <BrickViking> hm. Something reminds me of someting.
#1124 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> but you might be able to do it from Safe Mode
#1125 [20:08] <BrickViking> Cany ou run Explorer?
#1126 [20:09] <Lutzee> Safemode will give you said privilages, but then you loose the ability to connect here
#1127 [20:09] <BrickViking> (i.e. the file system browser)
#1128 [20:09] <Cripples_Master> ill just make an administrative account then if this fixes everything she wont be mad at me
#1129 [20:09] <BrickViking> it won't fix it.
#1130 [20:09] <Cripples_Master> on any other accounts on this laptop notepad isnt even a searchable item
#1131 [20:10] <Lutzee> DopeGhoti: could we see if the script found here will work
#1132 [20:10] <Lutzee> http://www.askvg.com/solution-exe-files-always-open-with-notepad-or-other-applications/
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#1134 [20:11] <Cripples_Master> im running it now
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#1136 [20:11] <Cripples_Master> you better hope this works or you got me killed
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#1138 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> Lutzee: the problem is getting that script to run (:
#1139 [20:12] <Cripples_Master> Lutzee well it worked kinda
#1140 [20:12] <Lutzee> kinda?
#1141 [20:12] <Cripples_Master> its running but not loading
#1142 [20:12] <Cripples_Master> nvm
#1143 [20:12] <BrickViking> Cripples_Master: by the way, did you happen to install a new anti-virus program?
#1144 [20:13] <Lutzee> What isn't loading?
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#1146 [20:13] <Cripples_Master> i didnt give it permission to make changes
#1147 [20:13] <BrickViking> ... about a month or two ago?
#1148 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: please be very specific
#1149 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> also, the fix _needs_ to make changes
#1150 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> otherwise it cannot fix anything
#1151 [20:13] <BrickViking> Yes. The more specific you are, the more able we are to help
#1152 [20:13] <Cripples_Master> no i did not install new software
#1153 [20:14] <Cripples_Master> norton has been gone for about 6 months now
#1154 [20:14] <Lutzee> Do you have any antivirus software installed? :|
#1155 [20:14] <Cripples_Master> and the fixit is giving me three option what do i do
#1156 [20:14] <Lutzee> Cripples_Master: what are the options?
#1157 [20:14] <Cripples_Master> had norton but not anymore
#1158 [20:15] <clarjon1> Cripples_Master: What are the options?
#1159 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: what are the three options?
#1160 [20:15] <Cripples_Master> TELL US WHAT YOU THINK:GET HELP ONLINE: READ MORE ABOUT IT
#1161 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> (in stereo!)
#1162 [20:15] <Lutzee> woh what?
#1163 [20:15] <Lutzee> Oh wait
#1164 [20:15] <Cripples_Master> it says it waqs processed too if that means anything...
#1165 [20:16] <Lutzee> You saw the "UPDATE: Microsoft has released an automatic Fixit tool to fix this annoying problem. This Fixit tool is based on the same method given in this tutorial."
#1166 [20:16] <Lutzee> I wasn't looking at that
#1167 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: that's why we are asking you to be very specific
#1168 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> now things make more sense
#1169 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> okay, so: based on what you just said, the fix should have run (if you allowed it this time to make the changes it needs to make)
#1170 [20:16] <Cripples_Master> what were you looking at lutzee?
#1171 [20:16] <Cripples_Master> and i allowed the changes
#1172 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> good
#1173 [20:17] <Cripples_Master> no icons changed back from notepad though
#1174 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#1175 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> that's all right
#1176 [20:17] <Cripples_Master> why is this such a pain in the a**
#1177 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> because something adversely affected your computer
#1178 [20:17] <Cripples_Master> i might have done it yself honestly
#1179 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> hopefully, .exe files have been fixed
#1180 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> try once more clicking on the Start menu, typing 'system restore', and pressing Enter
#1181 [20:19] <Cripples_Master> notepad
#1182 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> [bleep].
#1183 [20:19] <Cripples_Master> but imma try the regedit thing real quick
#1184 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> go right ahead
#1185 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> be aware that is is possible to end very badly if you miskey something in regedit.
#1186 [20:20] <Cripples_Master> well it opened in notepad anyways
#1187 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> yeah, I'm sorry, but there's really not much more we can safely walk you though
#1188 [20:20] <Lutzee> Cripples_Master: just try this http://media.askvg.com/downloads/2008/03/Fix-EXE-File-Problem.zip if that file opens in notepad there isn't much we can do
#1189 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> you really need at this point to have your computer seen to by a professional
#1190 [20:21] <Lutzee> And personally i think its time for ^ and a full windows reinstall, which will completely wipe the PC and start fresh
#1191 [20:21] <Cripples_Master> i just found something out
#1192 [20:21] <Lutzee> What is that?
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#1194 [20:22] <Cripples_Master> i needed to restart for fixit to take effect
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#1196 [20:22] <Lutzee> Ofcourse get the proffessional to take a look first
#1197 [20:22] <Cripples_Master> if i restart fixit will take effect should i do it
#1198 [20:22] <Lutzee> You can try, we will still be here
#1199 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: thanks, by the way, for putting up with three backseat drivers all shouting different directions to you at once. (:
#1200 [20:23] <Cripples_Master> np
#1201 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Cripples_Master: honestly, if you restart, your computer at worst won't be any less sueable than it is now
#1202 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> useable, even
#1203 [20:23] <Cripples_Master> just gimme a minute to try and explain my way to my sisters password
#1204 [20:24] <Cripples_Master> calling her now
#1205 [20:28] <Cripples_Master> if you guys ever need a wingman call me up cuz i can get anything out of any chick damn im good
#1206 [20:29] <Cripples_Master> imma restart now so hopefully i wont have this problem when i get back
#1207 [20:30] * clarjon1 cough
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#1210 [20:37] <darkmom52> I am logging in and getting a black screen, so I can't access anything...then i go to minecraft.net and login and it wants me to buy the game or play online where none of my games are available, it is like I am a new login...what has happened?
#1211 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> that was.. certainly odd
#1212 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> ??> darkmom52 forceupdate
#1213 [20:37] <VoxelHead> darkmom52: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1214 [20:37] <VoxelHead> darkmom52: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1215 [20:39] <darkmom52> will try that, thanks,
#1216 [20:40] <darkmom52> I was loading MobLoader and after that the blackout happened when I went to login , also I hit the patch on Modloader, could that be what did it?
#1217 [20:41] <clarjon1> Ah
#1218 [20:41] <Lutzee> Yes, you failed to install the mod.
#1219 [20:41] <Lutzee> We won't help for installing mods here unfortunately
#1220 [20:41] <darkmom52> What can I do, I just tried the force update and it said it can't connect to minecreaft?
#1221 [20:41] <Lutzee> Also logging into minecraft.net from a mojang account will say you haven't paid
#1222 [20:41] <clarjon1> darkmom52: We don't support modding minecraft here, but it sounds like you forgot to remove the meta-inf folder, or the mod was incompatible with your version of minecraft. Try reading the forum post you got the mod from for more details, as well as potential places that the mod developer can support you from.
#1223 [20:42] <darkmom52> If i rebuy Minecraft and install new, will I lose all my games?
#1224 [20:42] <clarjon1> You don't need to rebuy.
#1225 [20:42] <Lutzee> try
#1226 [20:42] <Lutzee> ?? win/reinst
#1227 [20:42] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1228 [20:43] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1229 [20:43] * lawl [lawl@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1230 [20:43] <lawl> !login
#1231 [20:43] <lawl> NOOO
#1232 [20:43] <lawl> SERVERS ARE DOWN
#1233 [20:43] <lawl> NOOOO
#1234 [20:43] <clarjon1> darkmom52: Just be patient
#1235 [20:43] <clarjon1> darkmom52: The reason why it's not working is because it appears the minecraft servers are down :)
#1236 [20:43] <clarjon1> darkmom52: Try again in an hour or so, see if it works, if not, try again later
#1237 [20:43] <clarjon1> they'll be back up eventually :)
#1238 [20:44] <|Anthony|> !check
#1239 [20:44] <lawl> !check mc.sportscraft.tk
#1240 [20:45] <|Anthony|> i actually wanted to see if auth was down
#1241 [20:45] <lawl> !login
#1242 [20:45] <|Anthony|> thanks
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#1244 [20:45] <lawl> i cant even get to offline mode
#1245 [20:45] <lawl> so i can play single
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#1247 [20:46] <lawl> right when i can play minecraft
#1248 [20:46] <|Anthony|> right?
#1249 [20:46] <lawl> when i get the chance to play minecraft
#1250 [20:46] <lawl> servers go down
#1251 [20:46] <lawl> this happens every single time
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#1253 [20:46] <Lutzee> I think mollstam has disappeared again :<
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#1255 [20:47] <Lutzee> Ahh good good https://twitter.com/mollstam/status/281213882842882049
#1256 [20:47] <lawl> he better check
#1257 [20:47] <Lutzee> Its funny, he doesn't need an automatic alert system because the players do it for him :3
#1258 [20:48] <clarjon1> Lutzee: lol
#1259 [20:48] <|Anthony|> !check
#1260 [20:48] <|Anthony|> :)
#1261 [20:48] <lawl> it's !login to see if you can login to minecraft
#1262 [20:48] <lawl> !login
#1263 [20:48] <middel_siggy> If there are any MoJang folkers here, I am willing to help you out in making your stuff fault tollerant, so it does not keep going down all the time.. I have over 25 years experience in doing this for systems just like yours, I would even be willing to do it free of charge, depending on the time commit...
#1264 [20:48] <middel_siggy> just offering..
#1265 [20:48] <|Anthony|> whitelist by IP
#1266 [20:49] <lawl> !check
#1267 [20:49] <lawl> !check mc.sportscraft.tk
#1268 [20:49] <lawl> screw my server
#1269 [20:50] <Lutzee> middel_siggy: This channel is community support, we are all volunteers here
#1270 [20:50] <|Anthony|> lol
#1271 [20:50] <lawl> !check mc.sportscraft.tk
#1272 [20:50] <lawl> dat_ping
#1273 [20:50] <middel_siggy> then someone here should help them make a more stable environment...
#1274 [20:50] <Lutzee> middel_siggy: it is being worked on, do not worry
#1275 [20:50] <middel_siggy> since I have purchased this thing for myself, and my kids it has crashed / been down more than any server i have ever experienced..
#1276 [20:50] <Lutzee> lawl: Please refrain from spamming the bot
#1277 [20:51] <lawl> sorry
#1278 [20:51] <middel_siggy> fixing systems like this, is my career... just don't understand.
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#1280 [20:51] <middel_siggy> and just want to help solve the problem if I can.
#1281 [20:51] <Cripples_Master> HELLO!!!
#1282 [20:51] <clarjon1> middel_siggy: The problem is being handles by Mojang.
#1283 [20:52] <darkmom52> I have been playing for months and this is the first time it has gone black on me...
#1284 [20:52] <middel_siggy> so what is the problem? to be specific?
#1285 [20:52] <|Anthony|> no one here will know that
#1286 [20:52] <clarjon1> middel_siggy: The auth servers got overloaded and fell over.
#1287 [20:52] <Lutzee> middel_siggy: You will need to ask mollstam
#1288 [20:53] <Cripples_Master> LUTZEE
#1289 [20:53] <darkmom52> I tried to load Modloader, and used the patch, think I screwed it up badly
#1290 [20:53] <Cripples_Master> IM BACK
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#1292 [20:53] <Lutzee> Cripples_Master: hey
#1293 [20:53] <clarjon1> Cripples_Master: no need to shout.
#1294 [20:54] <Cripples_Master> i am on another accou nt now cuz the fixit thing didnt fix anything. should i go ahead with a system restore?
#1295 [20:54] <|Anthony|> login is back btw
#1296 [20:54] <Lutzee> Cripples_Master: if you can
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#1298 [20:54] <ulgrath> hello all been a rough month huh down again?
#1299 [20:54] <|Anthony|> i just logged in
#1300 [20:54] <Cripples_Master> on this account i can but since im on another one will it affect the one i was on first
#1301 [20:54] <lawl> theyre not back up
#1302 [20:54] <lawl> !login
#1303 [20:54] <lawl> see
#1304 [20:54] <Upsetmom> Why can't my children play Mincraft on Windows 8?
#1305 [20:55] <lawl> Try disabling metro, Upsetmom
#1306 [20:55] <Cripples_Master> minecraft*
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#1308 [20:55] <lawl> Anyways, if they can't play right now, chances are, login servers are down, Upsetmom
#1309 [20:55] <lawl> !nick Vwulf99
#1310 [20:56] <lawl> How do I change my IRC username?
#1311 [20:56] <lawl> brb
#1312 [20:56] <lawl> gonna change my username
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#1315 [20:56] <Cripples_Master> lutzee can you go to private chat please
#1316 [20:56] <Vwulf99> I am back
#1317 [20:56] <Lutzee> Vwulf99: use /nick <newnick>
#1318 [20:57] <|Anthony|> ugh... mibbit
#1319 [20:57] <Upsetmom> Lawless, how do I disable metro? I'm just a mother of 3 who bought her 10 year a desktop with windows 8, his life is now ruined because he can't login to his account?
#1320 [20:57] <Vwulf99> Upsetom: I am lawl
#1321 [20:57] <Upsetmom> Sorry auto correct lawl
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#1323 [20:57] <Lutzee> Upsetmom: What error are you getting on it?
#1324 [20:58] <Vwulf99> Upsetmom: It is fine. Login servers are currently down.
#1325 [20:59] <Upsetmom> He logs in and it says its completing the download and never finishes, just sits with the green bar 90% complete
#1326 [20:59] <Cripples_Master> so no matter what we cant log into minecraft?
#1327 [20:59] <Vwulf99> Cripples_Master: yes
#1328 [20:59] <|Anthony|> Upsetmom: do note, this support chan is not staffed by Minecraft employees. It is community support
#1329 [20:59] <Lutzee> Upsetmom: what antivirus is installed on the PC?
#1330 [21:00] <Cripples_Master> ok that sucks
#1331 [21:00] <Cripples_Master> i was going through all this so i could play minecraft and now F***
#1332 [21:00] <Marc_IRL> okay, so I have a really poor translation of a problem. Anyone ever hear of an error that sort of resembles "specific pathname is not found"?
#1333 [21:00] <Vwulf99> :)
#1334 [21:01] <Vwulf99> Mark_IRL: What's the problem going on?
#1335 [21:01] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: sounds like java isn't in the classpath
#1336 [21:01] <Upsetmom> It has webroot, but it did not work before that was installed.
#1337 [21:01] <Lutzee> ??> Marc_IRL win/path
#1338 [21:01] <VoxelHead> Marc_IRL: (win/path) You probably need to add Java's binaries to your system's path.
#1339 [21:01] <VoxelHead> Marc_IRL: (win/path) A more detailed walkthrough of this is forthcoming.
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#1341 [21:01] <Lutzee> o
#1342 [21:01] <Lutzee> I think DG must have changed that
#1343 [21:01] <Marc_IRL> Vwulf99: the problem is that that this email's French is so poor that Google translate won't translate it fully :p
#1344 [21:01] <Vwulf99> Mark_IRL: What email?
#1345 [21:02] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: if it wasn't 2am and my mum wasn't asleep i could get it translated... sigh
#1346 [21:02] <Vwulf99> Mark_IRL: I might be able to translate it.
#1347 [21:02] <Vwulf99> !check mc.sportscraft.tk
#1348 [21:02] <Upsetmom> He can't play Maplestory either?
#1349 [21:02] <Vwulf99> LOGIN SERVERS ARE BACK UP
#1350 [21:02] <Vwulf99> !login
#1351 [21:02] <Cripples_Master> login server just worked for me
#1352 [21:03] <Vwulf99> :D
#1353 [21:03] <Cripples_Master> there was an update being made
#1354 [21:03] <Marc_IRL> bjr. suite a votre message j'ai utiliser votre mots de passe mais sa marque tjrs( chemin d'acces specifier est introuvable ) pk ?
#1355 [21:03] <mollstam> login back
#1356 [21:03] <Vwulf99> that isnt the real mollstam
#1357 [21:03] <Cripples_Master> it is working now
#1358 [21:03] <Marc_IRL> It isn't?
#1359 [21:04] <Lutzee> mollstam: tweet out some merry cheer to confirm its you? :D
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#1362 [21:05] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: his ip routes back to central stockholm the chances are it isnt him?
#1363 [21:05] <Marc_IRL> Did the registration on that username lapse?
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#1365 [21:05] <Upsetmom> It's time to put the kiddos to bed, will try back tomorrow, thanks
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#1369 [21:20] <tito> hello, if my minecraft crashed where do i send the report to?
#1370 [21:21] <Pbpred> My minecraft server is stuck up how do I bring it down so I can start it again
#1371 [21:21] <Pbpred> ?
#1372 [21:21] <tito> what do you mean stuck up
#1373 [21:21] <Pbpred> I try to start it and it says its running
#1374 [21:21] <Lutzee> tito: paste it on pastebin.com and press submit then copy the link back here
#1375 [21:21] <Pbpred> but its not
#1376 [21:21] <Lutzee> Pbpred: Failed to bind port?
#1377 [21:21] <Pbpred> yep
#1378 [21:22] <Lutzee> Pbpred: Running the server on windows?
#1379 [21:22] <Pbpred> linux
#1380 [21:22] <Lutzee> Ahh okay
#1381 [21:22] <Pbpred> debian squeeze
#1382 [21:22] <Lutzee> run ps aux | grep java
#1383 [21:22] <Lutzee> And kill any java processes you find
#1384 [21:23] <tito> lutzee: http://pastebin.com/wJ4JyCjT
#1385 [21:24] <Lutzee> tito: you were playing SSP at the time?
#1386 [21:24] <Pbpred> ps aux | grep java root 7751 2.7 3.4 1204280 33548 pts/0 Tl 21:23 0:01 java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui root 8190 0.0 0.0 3308 776 pts/0 S+ 21:24 0:00 grep java
#1387 [21:24] <tito> yeah at the time
#1388 [21:24] <Pbpred> how do i kill em?
#1389 [21:24] <tito> i just tried logging into different world
#1390 [21:24] <Lutzee> Pbpred: try running sudo kill 7751
#1391 [21:25] <tito> every world crashed
#1392 [21:25] <Lutzee> ??> tito forceupdate
#1393 [21:25] <VoxelHead> tito: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1394 [21:25] <VoxelHead> tito: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1395 [21:25] <tito> ok thank you i will try that
#1396 [21:25] <Pbpred> alright i think that might of worked
#1397 [21:27] <tito> it is still crashing
#1398 [21:27] <Pbpred> hrm tried to run it
#1399 [21:27] <tito> it begins to load the world
#1400 [21:27] <Lutzee> Pbpred: it is advised that you run the server in a screen so that you can reattach to the console
#1401 [21:27] <Pbpred> and its still saying
#1402 [21:27] <Lutzee> Oh..
#1403 [21:27] <tito> but then my controls dont work
#1404 [21:27] <Pbpred> what do you mean?
#1405 [21:27] <tito> and it crashes right after
#1406 [21:27] <Pbpred> im running from command prompt?
#1407 [21:28] <Lutzee> Pbpred: a screen is an instance of a terminal that you can detach from and still leave the server running
#1408 [21:28] <Pbpred> i do
#1409 [21:28] <Pbpred> i have it
#1410 [21:28] <Pbpred> running in 1 instance of putty
#1411 [21:28] <Pbpred> and i keep another up so i can modify my webserver and other stuff
#1412 [21:28] <Pbpred> but i had a crash
#1413 [21:28] <Pbpred> restarted my server
#1414 [21:29] <Lutzee> But if you close putty you cant go back and type in the console
#1415 [21:29] <Lutzee> what screen allows you to do is get back into the console
#1416 [21:29] <Pbpred> and boom I cant bring the minecraft
#1417 [21:29] <Pbpred> server down
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#1419 [21:29] <Pbpred> if i need to i can turn the monitor on
#1420 [21:29] <tito> lutzee can you still help out for me?
#1421 [21:29] <Pbpred> and go about it directly on the server?
#1422 [21:30] <Lutzee> tito: um im not sure what is causing it, does it happen with new worlds?
#1423 [21:30] <darkmom52> thanks Voxelhead! I followed your instructions and it worked and all my games are there!!! xoxox
#1424 [21:31] <tito> yes it happens with new worlds
#1425 [21:31] <tito> my cursor wont even move
#1426 [21:31] <tito> while its trying to load
#1427 [21:31] <Lutzee> Pbpred: try sudo kill -9 7751
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#1430 [21:33] <Pbpred> alright
#1431 [21:35] <Pbpred> ughhh
#1432 [21:35] <Pbpred> still running ><
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#1434 [21:35] <Lutzee> ummm
#1435 [21:35] <Lutzee> maybe a killall -9 java might work
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#1437 [21:36] <Pbpred> kk trying that
#1438 [21:36] <Lutzee> odd that a process wont even die in linux
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#1440 [21:37] <Pbpred> gonna try it
#1441 [21:37] <Pbpred> and reboot
#1442 [21:37] <Pbpred> well it is killing it
#1443 [21:37] <Pbpred> but
#1444 [21:37] <Pbpred> then when i run the server start command
#1445 [21:37] <Pbpred> it says
#1446 [21:37] <Pbpred> its still up?
#1447 [21:37] <Pbpred> or w/e
#1448 [21:37] <Lutzee> Pbpred: hmmm it might be that the port is still listed as bound for some reason
#1449 [21:37] <Pbpred> yeah i think it is
#1450 [21:37] <Pbpred> not sure why though ><
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#1452 [21:39] <Lutzee> Because TCP is horrible :P
#1453 [21:39] <Pbpred> lol
#1454 [21:40] <Pbpred> any clue how to go about that?
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#1456 [21:40] <Lutzee> Rebooting the server will clear the tables
#1457 [21:40] <Pbpred> ok cool
#1458 [21:40] <Pbpred> sorry still new to linuux
#1459 [21:40] <Pbpred> *linux
#1460 [21:40] <Pbpred> and servers and stuff lol
#1461 [21:40] <Lutzee> I wanted to refrain from asking you that incase this was a remote server
#1462 [21:40] <Pbpred> i know mostly hardware etc
#1463 [21:40] <Pbpred> well i could of used a reboot command ;P
#1464 [21:41] <Lutzee> just reboot should work fine
#1465 [21:41] <Pbpred> yeah the server is sitting in front of me at my house
#1466 [21:41] <Pbpred> i just mess around with it
#1467 [21:41] <Pbpred> in my spare time
#1468 [21:41] <Lutzee> I did that :)
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#1470 [21:42] <Pbpred> trying to teach myself linux, and html css etc
#1471 [21:42] <Pbpred> but this was definitely beyond my current knowledge pool
#1472 [21:42] <Lutzee> You have got a server version of linux on the machine or the desktop version with a gui?
#1473 [21:42] <Pbpred> 2012-12-18 21:43:19 [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 24.61.235.218:25565 2012-12-18 21:43:19 [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT! 2012-12-18 21:43:19 [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address
#1474 [21:43] <Pbpred> still failing to work :(
#1475 [21:43] <Pbpred> i have Debian Squeeze running
#1476 [21:43] <Pbpred> its a gui version
#1477 [21:43] <Pbpred> but i operate mostly with the command prompt from root
#1478 [21:43] <Lutzee> mmm i like to just have server versions for server
#1479 [21:43] <Pbpred> and actually i do most of the work on it through putty on my windows machine
#1480 [21:43] <Lutzee> hmmm that is odd
#1481 [21:44] <Lutzee> Have you got a startup script in /etc/init.d to start the server at all?
#1482 [21:44] <Pbpred> hrm i dont think?
#1483 [21:44] <oldtopman> <Pbpred> but i operate mostly with the command prompt from root <= Why would you do that?
#1484 [21:45] <Pbpred> ^C2012-12-18 21:43:29 [INFO] Stopping server 2012-12-18 21:43:29 [INFO] Saving worlds Exception in thread "Thread-3" java.lang.NullPointerException at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.a(SourceFile:541) at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.k(SourceFile:565) at fx.run(SourceFile:844)
#1485 [21:45] <Pbpred> i dunno?
#1486 [21:45] <Pbpred> just how i connect?
#1487 [21:45] <Pbpred> SSH
#1488 [21:46] <Lutzee> Pbpred: generally you shouldnt be using root for anything, and should have an admin account
#1489 [21:46] <Pbpred> hrm?
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#1491 [21:47] <Pbpred> err
#1492 [21:47] <Frostic> wb Marc_IRL
#1493 [21:47] <Lutzee> Pbpred: root is there for OS systems, other stuff should be run under an admin account
#1494 [21:47] <Pbpred> ah
#1495 [21:47] <Pbpred> i dont know if i setup an admin account when i installed?
#1496 [21:48] <Pbpred> 5412 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep java
#1497 [21:48] <Lutzee> You can add one from root (see how much power you have at the moment? you can delete the whole file system, which is bad)
#1498 [21:48] <Pbpred> hrm
#1499 [21:48] <Pbpred> isnt that the point?
#1500 [21:49] <Pbpred> to be able to use all of that power whenever you want?
#1501 [21:49] <Lutzee> okay Pbpred what does it say when you do
#1502 [21:49] <Lutzee> sudo netstat -ap | grep :25565
#1503 [21:49] <Pbpred> nothing was returned
#1504 [21:49] <Lutzee> O.o
#1505 [21:49] <Lutzee> Then the port isn't bound
#1506 [21:50] <Lutzee> ohhhhhhh
#1507 [21:50] <Frostic> Lutzee what is that command that wipes the os on linux that way he knows to never use it
#1508 [21:50] <Pbpred> ?
#1509 [21:50] <Pbpred> lol @frostic
#1510 [21:50] <oldtopman> Frostic: Why would you need that?
#1511 [21:50] <Lutzee> In the server.properties did you put anything in the ip-address field?
#1512 [21:50] <Pbpred> ohhhh yeah i did
#1513 [21:50] <Lutzee> remove it :|
#1514 [21:51] <Pbpred> hrm
#1515 [21:51] <Lutzee> Thats used when you are running 2 servers on the same machine
#1516 [21:51] <Pbpred> alright
#1517 [21:51] <Pbpred> ooo
#1518 [21:51] <Pbpred> ><
#1519 [21:51] <Pbpred> damn
#1520 [21:51] <Frostic> oldtopman this guy is new to linux.... i have seen people tell noobs the command and it deleted their stuff. he needs to know it so he dont ever use it?
#1521 [21:51] <Pbpred> im retarded
#1522 [21:51] <Pbpred> that would be helpful so i dont get taken advantage of lol
#1523 [21:51] <oldtopman> Frostic: How about we not discuss those.
#1524 [21:52] <Frostic> exactly my point
#1525 [21:52] <Pbpred> frostic ill google it
#1526 [21:52] <Lutzee> Pbpred: just don't trust anyone who asks you to perform an "rm" when you dont want to delete a file
#1527 [21:52] <Pbpred> ah yeah
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#1530 [21:53] <Pbpred> woot
#1531 [21:53] * mib_c053p0 is now known as username
#1532 [21:53] <Pbpred> up and running again
#1533 [21:53] * username is now known as westtell
#1534 [21:53] <Lutzee> Pbpred: okay, stop the server for a second
#1535 [21:53] <Pbpred> ill look into setting up an admin account too
#1536 [21:53] <Pbpred> alright
#1537 [21:53] <westtell> ok i have a problem
#1538 [21:54] <Lutzee> then just run screen
#1539 [21:54] <oldtopman> westtell: We have an answer.
#1540 [21:54] <Pbpred> is there a specific command to stop the server?
#1541 [21:54] <Frostic> ??> westtell ask
#1542 [21:54] <VoxelHead> westtell: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1543 [21:54] <VoxelHead> westtell: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1544 [21:54] <Pbpred> or should i use
#1545 [21:54] <Lutzee> Pbpred: stop
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#1547 [21:54] <Pbpred> herp derp forgot once im in the server i can just use that
#1548 [21:55] <Pbpred> so run screen?
#1549 [21:55] <westtell> i just tryed to play minecraft i only just got done playing like 2 hours ago and now at first before i uninstalled it i was getting java.net something about not being able to connect to the news server and wasent able to log in and now that i have uninstalled it and put it back on it is working but only to the main menu then when i click a menu button it lag
#1550 [21:55] <westtell> lags to high hell
#1551 [21:55] <Lutzee> Pbpred: yes
#1552 [21:55] <Lutzee> Then just press any key and you should get back to a basic terminal
#1553 [21:55] <Lutzee> then start your server from there
#1554 [21:55] <Pbpred> what do you mean run screen?
#1555 [21:56] <westtell> and it like just started and its not doing it on my laptop
#1556 [21:56] <Lutzee> Pbpred: type in screen and press enter
#1557 [21:56] <Lutzee> You might need to install it
#1558 [21:56] <westtell> what should i do
#1559 [21:56] <Pbpred> what does it do?
#1560 [21:57] <westtell> i just tryed to play minecraft i only just got done playing like 2 hours ago and now at first before i uninstalled it i was getting java.net something about not being able to connect to the news server and wasent able to log in and now that i have uninstalled it and put it back on it is working but only to the main menu then when i click a menu button it lag
#1561 [21:57] <westtell> lags to high hell
#1562 [21:57] <Lutzee> Pbpred: it runs a shell for a process so you can get back to the processes terminal once you disconnect
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#1564 [21:57] <Pbpred> kk
#1565 [21:58] <Frostic> westtell go into .minecraft folder while minecraft is off and delete options.txt and log back in minecraft
#1566 [21:58] <Pbpred> well
#1567 [21:58] <Pbpred> this is where im running stuff from
#1568 [21:58] <Pbpred> root@Webserver:/opt/minecraft#
#1569 [21:58] <Lutzee> okay
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#1571 [21:58] <Pbpred> im using SSH to connect to the server
#1572 [21:59] <thepictheory> i got a prepaid card put it on the account and when i sighed back in on the account it says i don't have any games
#1573 [22:00] <Pbpred> is that right lutzee?
#1574 [22:01] <Pbpred> ahhhh
#1575 [22:01] <Pbpred> so when i need to connect
#1576 [22:02] <Pbpred> i should connect to the other account not root
#1577 [22:02] <thepictheory> is there anyone i can contact about ?
#1578 [22:02] <Pbpred> ray@Webserver:~$
#1579 [22:02] <Pbpred> i seeee
#1580 [22:02] <Pbpred> and then ifi need root
#1581 [22:02] <Pbpred> i just do SU
#1582 [22:02] <Lutzee> Pbpred: correct
#1583 [22:02] <Pbpred> and pass
#1584 [22:02] <Frostic> thepictheory give it 15 mins and try again
#1585 [22:02] <thepictheory> \its been 2 hours
#1586 [22:03] <Pbpred> alright so im good to run the server from here
#1587 [22:03] <Lutzee> yes
#1588 [22:03] <Frostic> thepictheory did you make a username yet?
#1589 [22:03] <thepictheory> yes
#1590 [22:03] <Frostic> what is it if i may ask?
#1591 [22:04] <Pbpred> woah
#1592 [22:04] <Pbpred> its doing some crazy shit now lutzee
#1593 [22:04] <thepictheory> still it says it doesn't exist
#1594 [22:04] <westtell> THAT FIXED IT
#1595 [22:04] <westtell> i LOVE YOU GUYS
#1596 [22:04] <Lutzee> Pbpred: what does it say?
#1597 [22:04] <Frostic> your welcom westtell
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#1599 [22:04] <Pbpred> "generating new server properties???
#1600 [22:04] <Pbpred> 2012-12-18 22:05:05 [SEVERE] Could not save crash report to ./crash-reports/crash-2012-12-18_22.05.05-server.txt java.io.FileNotFoundException: ./crash-reports/crash-2012-12-18_22.05.05-server.txt (Permission denied) at java.io.FileOutputStream.open(Native Method) at java.io.FileOutputStream.<init>(FileOutputStream.java:209) at java.io
#1601 [22:05] <Pbpred> wdfff
#1602 [22:05] <Lutzee> ohhhh
#1603 [22:05] <Frostic> thepictheory what is your usrname?
#1604 [22:05] <Pbpred> lots of
#1605 [22:05] <Lutzee> flip i forgot about file permissions
#1606 [22:05] <Pbpred> at go.a(SourceFile:38) at go.b(SourceFile:48) at go.a(SourceFile:38) at go.b(SourceFile:48) at go.a(SourceFile:38) at go.b(SourceFile:48) at go.a(SourceFile:38) at go.b(SourceFile:48) at go.a(SourceFile:38) at go.b(SourceFile:48) at go.a(SourceFile:38) at go.b(Source
#1607 [22:05] <thepictheory> ThEpicTheory
#1608 [22:05] <Lutzee> Pbpred: able to stop the server?
#1609 [22:05] <Frostic> ??> Pbpred pastebin
#1610 [22:05] <VoxelHead> Pbpred: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1611 [22:05] <Pbpred> i just ctrl z
#1612 [22:05] <Lutzee> okay
#1613 [22:05] <Pbpred> and it went back to command prompt
#1614 [22:06] <Frostic> !paid ThEpicTheory
#1615 [22:06] <Pbpred> so i need to
#1616 [22:06] <Pbpred> chmod?
#1617 [22:06] <thepictheory> what?
#1618 [22:06] <Pbpred> chmod 777 /minecraft ?
#1619 [22:06] <Frostic> is aubot down?
#1620 [22:06] <Lutzee> Pbpred: that should do it
#1621 [22:06] <Frostic> thats a command to see if your account paid
#1622 [22:07] <Lutzee> <Lutzee> !paid ThEpicTheory
#1623 [22:07] <Lutzee> <AuBot> ThEpicTheory has paid for Minecraft!
#1624 [22:07] <Pbpred> changing permissions of /opt/minecraft operation not permitted
#1625 [22:07] <thepictheory> then is my email rong
#1626 [22:07] <Frostic> im removed from the access?
#1627 [22:08] <Frostic> thepictheory your account is good.you must be spelling it wrong
#1628 [22:08] <Frostic> or your password is wrong
#1629 [22:08] <thepictheory> ok thank you
#1630 [22:08] <Lutzee> Not sure
#1631 [22:08] <Frostic> try again. if not then reset your password
#1632 [22:08] <Pbpred> does that tell you if your account is paid for?
#1633 [22:08] <Frostic> yes
#1634 [22:08] <Pbpred> kk
#1635 [22:08] <Pbpred> cool
#1636 [22:09] <Pbpred> oh do i need to change the permissions from root lutzee?
#1637 [22:09] <Pbpred> do i need to like
#1638 [22:09] <Pbpred> go to root then
#1639 [22:09] <Lutzee> Pbpred: it looks at minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?username=
#1640 [22:09] <Lutzee> Pbpred: sudo should be fine
#1641 [22:09] <Pbpred> chown ray /opt/minecraft ?
#1642 [22:09] <Lutzee> sudo chmod 777 /opt/minecraft
#1643 [22:10] <Lutzee> or chown would also work
#1644 [22:10] <Pbpred> hrm
#1645 [22:10] <Pbpred> ray is not in the sudoers
#1646 [22:10] <Pbpred> lol
#1647 [22:10] <Lutzee> ahh
#1648 [22:10] <Pbpred> how do i add?
#1649 [22:10] <Lutzee> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/how-to-add-a-user-to-the-sudoers-list/
#1650 [22:12] <Pbpred> ughhhh
#1651 [22:12] <Pbpred> lol
#1652 [22:12] <thepictheory> whats the email? it wont let me log in
#1653 [22:12] <Pbpred> went to root
#1654 [22:12] <Pbpred> used visudo
#1655 [22:13] <Lutzee> thepictheory: we have less access to your account than you do
#1656 [22:13] <thepictheory> ok
#1657 [22:13] <Pbpred> and accidently hit something
#1658 [22:13] <Pbpred> took me back to root
#1659 [22:13] <Pbpred> and now it says visudo is busy lolol
#1660 [22:14] <Lutzee> Pbpred: try nano /etc/sudoers
#1661 [22:14] <Frostic> Marc_IRL is here he is staff for minecraft right?
#1662 [22:14] <Pbpred> yeah doing that now lutz
#1663 [22:14] <Marc_IRL> hmm?
#1664 [22:14] <Frostic> this guy is having account issues
#1665 [22:14] <Marc_IRL> Summarize?
#1666 [22:14] <Marc_IRL> I haven't been watching the chat
#1667 [22:14] <Frostic> thepictheory he cant seem to login he thinks his email is wrong
#1668 [22:14] <Pbpred> is there a command to logout of root?
#1669 [22:15] <Pbpred> or return to my other acct?
#1670 [22:15] <Frostic> thepictheory please explain your issue to mark
#1671 [22:15] <thepictheory> would it send me a email saying i redeemed the code
#1672 [22:15] <Pbpred> su ray
#1673 [22:15] <Pbpred> woot
#1674 [22:15] <Pbpred> i guessed and it worked
#1675 [22:15] <Pbpred> :D
#1676 [22:15] <Lutzee> Pbpred: um, not sure, i never normally get close to a root account, as i use ubuntu which completely locks it down and only gives you access to sudo bash
#1677 [22:15] <Frostic> yes it will send you an email
#1678 [22:15] <Lutzee> Oh nice haha
#1679 [22:16] <thepictheory> i ok then i am using the rong email
#1680 [22:16] <Frostic> yes i think you are. sorry i pinged you mark
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#1682 [22:16] <Lutzee> Pbpred: This has been interesting, but its now 3:15AM mind if i get some sleep? ^^
#1683 [22:17] <Pbpred> ahaha of course
#1684 [22:17] <Pbpred> thank you for your help
#1685 [22:17] <Frostic> goto sleep Lutzee sweet dreams :)
#1686 [22:17] <confusedwooki> hello, could anyone help me with my problem?
#1687 [22:17] <Lutzee> No problem :)
#1688 [22:17] <Frostic> ??> confusedwooki ask
#1689 [22:17] <VoxelHead> confusedwooki: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1690 [22:17] <VoxelHead> confusedwooki: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1691 [22:18] <confusedwooki> ok i got minecraft downloaded on my computer right.
#1692 [22:18] <Frostic> and?
#1693 [22:18] <confusedwooki> but the mesge tells me i have a bad video driver.
#1694 [22:18] <confusedwooki> messege
#1695 [22:18] <Frostic> then you need to update your video drivers
#1696 [22:19] <confusedwooki> but it is a new windows 8 module its like the newest video driver, and also the same messege ccured on my last laptop a viao.
#1697 [22:19] <confusedwooki> occured
#1698 [22:20] <Frostic> ??> confusedwooki win/dxdiag
#1699 [22:20] <VoxelHead> confusedwooki: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1700 [22:20] <VoxelHead> confusedwooki: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1701 [22:20] <confusedwooki> ok one second
#1702 [22:23] <confusedwooki> ok one second?
#1703 [22:23] <Frostic> confusedwooki i dont know if this will help in the bad video driver thing but try disabling metro the topic says to do this
#1704 [22:23] <confusedwooki> do i add any thing into the name of it?
#1705 [22:24] <Frostic> no
#1706 [22:24] <thepictheory> i redeemed a code it said it was succesfull and when i logged in again it says i dont have minecraft
#1707 [22:24] <confusedwooki> ok
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#1709 [22:24] <Frostic> thepictheory wrong email address
#1710 [22:24] <confusedwooki> whats an IRC channel?
#1711 [22:24] <Frostic> this is irc channel
#1712 [22:25] <confusedwooki> ok so i copy it here?
#1713 [22:25] <Frostic> that text should be changed to paste it in this windo so we may see your link lol
#1714 [22:25] <Frostic> yes
#1715 [22:25] <confusedwooki> http://pastebin.com/xCfeS7rK
#1716 [22:25] <confusedwooki> there you go now what do i do?
#1717 [22:26] <Frostic> this is not the whole file
#1718 [22:26] <confusedwooki> ? um ok one second
#1719 [22:26] <Frostic> i need you to paste the whole contents of the file not just part of it
#1720 [22:27] <confusedwooki> ok sorry didn see the crap load under give me one second...
#1721 [22:27] <Frostic> ok :)
#1722 [22:28] <confusedwooki> http://pastebin.com/WxRLxAsJ
#1723 [22:28] <confusedwooki> ah finally that is a huge file
#1724 [22:28] <confusedwooki> im suprised computers dont need advil...lol
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#1728 [22:29] <Frostic> oldtopman im thinking this mobility graphics card is not compatable right?
#1729 [22:29] <Frostic> i remember reading about it somewhere
#1730 [22:29] <oldtopman> Frostic: Windows 8 doesn't like minecraft.
#1731 [22:30] <confusedwooki> i dont know anything about that
#1732 [22:30] <oldtopman> Only medium-high graphics cards work with minecraft+win8
#1733 [22:30] <confusedwooki> ok let me ask
#1734 [22:30] <oldtopman> Have you tried disabling Metro?
#1735 [22:30] <Frostic> oldtopman please look at confusedwooki's last link
#1736 [22:30] <oldtopman> I already did.
#1737 [22:30] <Frostic> i asked him to do it i dont think he did
#1738 [22:31] <Daedalus_911> Does anyone know what might be causing Connection timed out: connect and Failure to connect: took too long?
#1739 [22:31] <oldtopman> confusedwooki: Have you tried disabling Metro?
#1740 [22:31] <confusedwooki> is it the fact that im running windows 8 or is it the graphics card ot the combo of both?
#1741 [22:31] <oldtopman> I would try disabling Metro first.
#1742 [22:31] <confusedwooki> whats the metro?
#1743 [22:31] <oldtopman> The fancy new icon thing.
#1744 [22:31] <Frostic> ??> confusedwooki disable>metro
#1745 [22:31] <confusedwooki> ok
#1746 [22:31] <confusedwooki> one sec
#1747 [22:31] <Frostic> erm
#1748 [22:32] <Frostic> is there a command that explains it?
#1749 [22:32] <Frostic> i lost my refference page :/
#1750 [22:32] <oldtopman> Frostic: Nope.
#1751 [22:33] <confusedwooki> i dont see one but im gonna bing it and find out how to disable it...
#1752 [22:34] <thepictheory> i didnt get an email confirming i redeemed the card
#1753 [22:36] <Daedalus_911> Does anyone know what might be causing Connection timed out: connect and Failure to connect: took too long? I know its not the destination server, nor anything on mojang's side. does anyone know possible ports i should be forwarding etc?
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#1755 [22:39] <quanta> Help: I have a brand new PC, Windows 7 x64 with Java 7 U10 x64 only, and can't get Minecraft to run. I see the launcher and updater works fine, but instead of loading Mojang logo screen, I just get black. Java console reports a NullPointerException. I have no mods!
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#1757 [22:39] <Frostic> thepictheory i have told you 5 times you are either using the wrong email or you typed it wrong when you made your account.
#1758 [22:42] <Frostic> i got to go bbs
#1759 [22:43] <Elystus> google.com
#1760 [22:44] <Elystus> um >_> ignore that lol
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#1763 [22:44] <zed_> opengl
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#1766 [22:45] <zed_> I have an issue with my computer loading minecraft because it says i do not have accelerated opengl although I have updated my drivers
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#1769 [22:50] <thepictheory> how do i fix it
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#1774 [22:57] <Guest27129> i have bought minecraft and i open the surver but then once it loads the screen goes black..
#1775 [22:58] <Guest27129> hello???????????
#1776 [22:59] <Guest27129> #minecrafthelp i need you guys
#1777 [22:59] <Guest27129> #minecrafthelp i bought minecraft and the screen goes back once i log on to the suver.
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#1784 [23:41] <PaladinPete> ugh so annoying :( got my home server all set up...but i forgot to port forward my external ip XD
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#1786 [23:46] <DopeGhoti> PaladinPete: that is kind of an important detail (:
#1787 [23:46] <PaladinPete> ah i think i got it now
#1788 [23:47] <PaladinPete> as long as i setup port forwarding for my internal ip, my external ip should work as well?
#1789 [23:48] <DopeGhoti> well, most port forwarding settings have an internal and external end.
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#1791 [23:50] <PaladinPete> under the ip section of my router's admin menu...i can only change the last 3 of the ip address
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