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#5 [00:29] <JakeCWolf> I just downloaded the 7 mb patch for 360 minecraft, but I have a great deal invested in a per "this patch" world, will I be able to atleast find blaze rods for a brewing stand?
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#9 [00:45] <pokepark225> hi
#10 [00:46] <pokepark225> i need help with my login i login and on my launcher it says cant conect to minecraft.net
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#14 [00:58] <tyteen4a03> .sitedown This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
#15 [00:58] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
#16 [01:03] <Eddie> Thank YOU
#17 [01:03] <tyteen4a03> Eddie, it's a trial initiative to see how it works
#18 [01:03] <Eddie> ohoho
#19 [01:03] <tyteen4a03> if it works well, I'll suggest adding this quiethour feature to DopeGhoti
#20 [01:03] <tyteen4a03> it will also remind me to check this channel more often
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#23 [01:06] <VoxelHead> Grim_Reaper, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
#24 [01:09] <SinZ> tyteen4a03: could you do it via notice or something
#25 [01:09] <SinZ> so it doesn
#26 [01:10] <SinZ> doesn't have portential for spam
#27 [01:10] <tyteen4a03> SinZ, again, this is a trial initiative and the current implementation of .sitedown doesn't /notices people
#28 [01:10] <tyteen4a03> probably just trying it out for two days or three
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#30 [01:13] <VoxelHead> Tonux, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
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#32 [01:20] <VoxelHead> tiger_m, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
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#34 [01:26] <VoxelHead> [L], welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
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#40 [01:56] <VoxelHead> acmfan, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
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#44 [02:08] <VoxelHead> Andrio, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
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#49 [02:22] <VoxelHead> equation_, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
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#53 [02:47] <VoxelHead> Cookie, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
#54 [02:47] <Cookie> >:C
#55 [02:48] <tyteen4a03> Cookie, trial initiative
#56 [02:49] <Cookie> either way, problem now ignored
#57 [02:49] <tyteen4a03> good
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#59 [02:49] <VoxelHead> Thunder1, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
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#62 [03:01] <Ramen> w
#63 [03:01] <VoxelHead> Ramen, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
#64 [03:02] <Ramen> I don't needhelp I sent w by accedent ;P
#65 [03:07] <rymate1234> Hey
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#69 [03:38] <VoxelHead> Valerie, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
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#74 [04:20] <VoxelHead> Andrio, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
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#76 [04:25] <VoxelHead> Grim_Reaper, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
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#78 [04:27] <VoxelHead> FLHerne, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
#79 [04:30] * Morrolan blinks
#79 [04:30] <Andrio> VoxelHead: it would be
#80 [04:30] <Morrolan> Vox got an upgrade, eh.
#81 [04:31] <Andrio> Lain still > VoxelHead
#82 [04:31] <Morrolan> No. :<
#83 [04:31] * Morrolan pats VoxelHead
#83 [04:31] <Morrolan> Don't listen to ol' Andrio.
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#86 [04:48] <VoxelHead> brickviking, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
#87 [04:48] <brickviking> hi. Does anyone know if iron golems despawn when light levels are low?
#88 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> They do not
#89 [04:48] <brickviking> weird. wife just had one disappear on her recently, and she can't find it.
#90 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps it got destroyed?
#91 [04:50] <brickviking> in a sealed room???
#92 [04:50] <brickviking> the room's three blocks high.
#93 [04:51] <brickviking> and is about 9x7 in size.
#94 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> Then.. I don't know
#95 [04:52] <brickviking> it's making us scratch our heads too. I've never seen a golem despawn...
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#97 [04:52] <VoxelHead> Calinou, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
#98 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> They don't...
#99 [04:53] <brickviking> should I ask over in #minecraft then, to see if anyone else there has seen it/
#100 [04:54] <brickviking> oh actualy, the room's four blocks high.
#101 [04:55] <brickviking> and is 13x9
#102 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Go ahead and try, but it's pretty late, and nobody's awake right now
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#105 [04:58] <VoxelHead> Tigger, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
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#109 [05:18] <VoxelHead> Jasmine, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
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#112 [05:33] <VoxelHead> worldmc, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
#113 [05:33] <worldmc> well then ill help lol
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#116 [06:05] <VoxelHead> VanHuek, welcome to #minecrafthelp. This is currently a quiet hour for #minecrafthelp and not many helpers are active. Please post your question and wait patiently for a respnonse. Alternative, you can try googling your problem (which may help). Thank you.
#117 [06:06] <worldmc> welcome
#118 [06:07] <VanHuek> My friend is in a different country in a hotel and has an internet speed of 3Mb download and 0.5 upload and when he tries to connect to the server I host he gets a Server Timeout, is this because of port forwarding or bad internet (he can normally connect when in the UK) and what si the remedy to this or is it impossible?
#119 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Usually bad internet. Nothing he can do but to find a better connection
#120 [06:07] <worldmc> yep
#121 [06:07] <VanHuek> So it isn't port related?
#122 [06:07] <worldmc> 3 mb is way too slow
#123 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#124 [06:08] <VanHuek> and him hosting it won't help either?
#125 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Would make it worse.
#126 [06:08] <worldmc> prob not since he still has the 3 mb
#127 [06:08] <worldmc> that wont get better
#128 [06:08] <VanHuek> So nothing we can do?
#129 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> When hosting, that .5 mb upload would be insufficient to host.
#130 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately not, unless he can find some sort of internet cafe, or a public hotspot to connect from
#131 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> .siteup
#132 [06:10] <VoxelHead> GreyVulpine, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
#133 [06:12] <VanHuek> Is there a wayy to allow really laggy players to join?
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#135 [06:13] <worldmc> well
#136 [06:13] <worldmc> depends on laggy internet or laggy gameplay
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#138 [06:14] <worldmc> laggy gameplay is computer related. internet is something you cant really do a lot about
#139 [06:14] <VanHuek> but is there a way to allow laggy players to join?
#140 [06:15] <worldmc> laggy in gameplay?
#141 [06:15] <worldmc> then yes
#142 [06:15] <worldmc> but slow internet will cause a lot of timeouts in the form of recv failed error
#143 [06:20] <VanHuek> Oh shame :(
#144 [06:21] <worldmc> DopeGhoti: is there sourcecode of voxelhead online somewhere?
#145 [06:22] <Calinou> inb4 no
#146 [06:22] <Calinou> GreyVulpine: i have 0.3mbit upload, enough to host 1 player + me
#147 [06:23] <worldmc> but that is on the edge i gues
#148 [06:26] <Calinou> blame MC for eating so much bandwidth
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#150 [06:26] * Calinou can still host 6 players on minetest :<
#150 [06:27] <VanHuek> so why when this person hosts can't I join?
#151 [06:27] <VanHuek> he is using a mac?
#152 [06:27] <Calinou> os x*
#153 [06:27] <Calinou> using a mac doesn't mean you're using os x
#154 [06:27] <Calinou> and "mac os x" is officially called "OS X" as of 10.8 ;)
#155 [06:28] <VanHuek> Yeah meant that :P
#156 [06:28] <VanHuek> but Do I have to do anything special, or does he, to get a server running on OS X?
#157 [06:28] <samsalabam> hello ive got a mac and i want to update minecraft but i cant. and i cant open the map minecraft in libary applicationssuport . so i want to kno what i can do.
#158 [06:29] <samsalabam> do you kno?
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#160 [06:32] <Calinou> samsalabam: why can't you update it?
#161 [06:32] <Calinou> also, you can't directly open minecraft maps by double clicking them
#162 [06:33] <samsalabam> what do you mean?
#163 [06:34] <samsalabam> hello ive got a mac and i want to update minecraft but i cant. and i cant open the folder minecraft in libary applicationssuport . so i want to kno what i can do.
#164 [06:34] <Calinou> can't you read what I say?
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#166 [06:34] <samsalabam> i did mean foler not map..
#167 [06:35] <Calinou> ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#168 [06:35] <Calinou> should be there
#169 [06:35] <Calinou> OS X file names are case-sensitive
#170 [06:35] <samsalabam> yes it is ther but i cant open it...
#171 [06:39] <Calinou> why can't you?
#172 [06:39] <samsalabam> that is the question
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#174 [06:46] <samsalabam> hello?
#175 [06:46] <worldmc|school> hello
#176 [06:46] <samsalabam> hello ive got a mac and i want to update minecraft but i cant. and i cant open the folder minecraft in libary applicationssuport . so i want to kno what i can do.
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#178 [06:51] <dylan> my minecraft told me to update and idid and know i cant go in my mincraft online server it was 1.4.4
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#201 [07:59] <Magnuscoatl> Okay. I'm having a little trouble with redstone. If I have a line of pistons side by side and want to power them all, how do I do that? If I put a long line of redstone alongside, it just forms a wire which never touches them.
#202 [08:00] <Andrio> Use repeaters.
#203 [08:04] <Magnuscoatl> okay. Am I right in thinking that I then need a row of pistons, a row of repeaters, and then a row of redstone?
#204 [08:04] <Andrio> Yeah. The wire will attach to the repeaters, which it doesn't do with pistons.
#205 [08:04] <Magnuscoatl> Thanks!
#206 [08:06] <Andrio> You're welcome. :-)
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#211 [08:17] <VanHuek> I'm a bit confused on a mac server, why can't I just run the .jar?
#212 [08:19] <ChauffeR> you should be able to?
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#219 [08:22] <VanHuek> Ok
#220 [08:23] <manolitico> vanhuek, just follow the manual
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#222 [08:23] <VanHuek> It's a bit confusing I don't get why you need some command line
#223 [08:23] <manolitico> for limits of ram
#224 [08:23] <manolitico> and directories
#225 [08:24] <YellowAfterlife> Hello. Would someone happen to know, if it is possible to enable "normal" chat in SinglePlayerCommands mod? By default it threats all input text as commands, extending process of showing something on screen (e.g. for screen capture note) to typing "/say [text]".
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#234 [08:54] <wpinda> help my minecraft has crashed
#235 [08:55] <wpinda> what can i do?
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#240 [09:01] <cindy> How do I download mindcraft?
#241 [09:01] <cindy> When I try to d/l it there is not a place to put in the credit card info
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#247 [09:03] <Charbi> Hey guys, not sure if anyone could help me but after creating a vanilla server I unfortunately died and the server crashed. Now the saved game keeps crashing. Any ideas?
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#250 [09:15] <manolitico> @Charbi i don't know if this against the rules; use bukkit
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#253 [09:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> manolitico: and how would using bukkit suddenly make the save game not crash?
#254 [09:16] <manolitico> ohh
#255 [09:16] <manolitico> the server isn't what crashes?
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#258 [09:17] <Paul> how do you make fireworks?
#259 [09:18] <manolitico> it is in 1.4.6
#260 [09:18] <manolitico> read the topic
#261 [09:18] <manolitico> We do not support Classic, Pre-Releases, or old versions
#262 [09:18] <Zhoommv> Paul: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Firework
#263 [09:18] <manolitico> sorry xD
#264 [09:18] <Paul> ty
#265 [09:18] <Zhoommv> yw
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#267 [09:25] <reeme> Could someone help me? In the past I use demo account, but i was forget email of this account. I bought a Minecraft on another account (with gift-code), but my nickname is taken. Can support delete my old nickname from database? I will take it immediately. PS: Sorry for my bad english :(
#268 [09:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> reeme: you'd have to email mojang about that
#269 [09:26] <Zhoommv> http://help.mojang.com/
#270 [09:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> dont hold out too much hope, but its possible
#271 [09:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> i think
#272 [09:27] <reeme> Thank you. I will try.
#273 [09:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> np, gl
#274 [09:28] <Zhoommv> so I downloaded the Minecraft server .exe file and when i run it, do I give people my IP to connect?
#275 [09:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> Zhoommv: your external ip, yes
#276 [09:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> Zhoommv: make sure you forwarded the relevant ports
#277 [09:29] <Zhoommv> okay, thank you. :D
#278 [09:31] <Calinou> 25565 in TCP is the default
#279 [09:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> ohai cal :)
#280 [09:31] <Zhoommv> alright, thanks.
#281 [09:31] <Calinou> hi
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#291 [10:01] <reeme> How can I email mojang ?) I can't find e-mail address. I'm not sure that I should write to notch@mojang.com )
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#294 [10:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> reeme: try to google a bit :P but it's here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#296 [10:03] <reeme> Oh, thanks. I was find this form 5 seconds ago :D
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#301 [10:09] <LilAcorn> I would like to know if there is a working rcon client that i can run on my PC to connect to my server?
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#307 [10:22] <Timesklo> Hey, i really need help
#308 [10:23] <Selbram> then ask for it :)
#309 [10:23] <Timesklo> Somebody here?
#310 [10:23] <Selbram> ...
#311 [10:23] * Morrolan shakes head
#311 [10:23] <Timesklo> Ah, ok, my problem is, i bought a server at notrado but i cant join it
#312 [10:24] <Morrolan> Err, you'd have to contact this Notrado then.
#313 [10:24] <Timesklo> No, this has nothing to do with nitrado, my friends can join it
#314 [10:24] <Timesklo> Failed to login: java.io.FileNotFoundExeption: Http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Timesklo&sessionI d=-4501720040555616143&serverId=228cb2064d420bc1c04f84c9d09d223 2c0f6433b
#315 [10:25] <Timesklo> This is what it says
#316 [10:25] <Morrolan> Err, how odd.
#317 [10:25] <Morrolan> Uh, Windows?
#318 [10:25] <Timesklo> Yes
#319 [10:25] <Morrolan> ?? win/hosts
#320 [10:25] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#321 [10:25] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#322 [10:25] <Morrolan> In the file VoxelHead told you where to find, check for any lines containin 'session.minecraft.net','login.minecraft.net', 'minecraft.net' or any variation thereof.
#323 [10:25] <Morrolan> containing*
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#326 [10:30] <Calinou> why would your hosts file contain that
#327 [10:30] <Selbram> virus
#328 [10:30] <Selbram> trojan
#329 [10:30] <Selbram> malware
#330 [10:30] <Morrolan> Calinou - Cracked client, mostly.
#331 [10:30] <Calinou> since when viruses/trojans want to prevent running minecraft :P
#332 [10:30] <Calinou> that, maybe
#333 [10:30] <Selbram> lol
#334 [10:30] <Calinou> though most cracked clients just use some kind of code edit to bypass login server
#335 [10:31] <Selbram> I found some that act as a proxy and auto add any domain to the hosts file so that it directs to there proxy first
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#337 [10:31] <Morrolan> Mhm. Though I wouldn't put it beyond some of those clients to also (accidentally) relay your session ID and password to some remote site.
#338 [10:31] <Selbram> ^
#339 [10:31] <Morrolan> Just, you know, in case anyone would use a valid Minecraft account with one of those.
#340 [10:31] <Timesklo> Ok, thank you for help, i try after school, thank you!
#341 [10:32] <Morrolan> Timesklo - If that won't fix it, it might also be an overjealous security software's doing.
#342 [10:32] <Morrolan> Oh, as an addendum to the hosts file: If you find such a line, remove it.
#343 [10:32] <Morrolan> (The line, not the hosts file.)
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#345 [10:37] <manolitico> @sugoi with the new driver, it doesn't freezes; 3hours without freezing
#346 [10:39] <Calinou> manolitico: that's AMD :)
#347 [10:39] <Calinou> quite good already :P
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#351 [10:51] <Guest17352> my niece had the cracked version i bought her reg version downloaded it but when try to login in it says not downloaded how do i get it to run?
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#353 [10:52] <Jac> minecarft keeps crashing on my sony vpcasa3/fx series laptop. The game runs (not smooth/choppy) on my integrated intel hd graphics chipset but when i play on my 1gb Amd radeon 6630m series graphics card the game freezes and closes and cause my graphics card to crash. so explain to me why my graphics card can play call of duty on high settings but cant even play minecarft?
#354 [10:52] <Calinou> Jac: install drivers
#355 [10:52] <Calinou> also, what operating system are you using?
#356 [10:52] <Calinou> ?? gpu/amd
#357 [10:52] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#358 [10:52] <Jac> windows 7 64 bit
#359 [10:52] <marko> hello i have problems with the new minecraft update 1.4.6
#360 [10:52] <Guest17352> windows vista where are drivers downloaded and installed all links
#361 [10:52] <Jac> ive tried that but my computer wont let me download the drivers from amd
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#363 [10:54] <Guest17352> i did download the minecraft and the server on the download page
#364 [10:54] <brylye89> how do i undate my minecraft
#365 [10:55] <Jac> no matter what i do my amd graphics card crashes while playing minecraft. i read on a form that my graphics card does not work well with java but good with direct x
#366 [10:55] <manolitico> @Jac, are you using linux?
#367 [10:55] <Jac> is there a way i can fix that
#368 [10:55] <marko> yeah me to CAN u undate the new update dont work
#369 [10:55] <Jac> no windows 7 64 bit
#370 [10:55] <manolitico> @Jac, so, i don't know really good
#371 [10:55] <manolitico> in the amd official page will appear the correct driver
#372 [10:56] <Guest17352> do i need to fully remove cracked version first?
#373 [10:56] <Lutzee> Jac: minecraft does not use directx
#374 [10:56] <Jac> i know it uses java which is apparently why it doesnt work on my grpahics card
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#376 [10:57] <Lutzee> The fact it uses java doesn't matter, it uses OpenGL to do rendering, directx and openGL are redering engines, java is a programming language
#377 [10:57] <Lutzee> Jac: what Graphics card do you have?
#378 [10:58] <Jac> amd radeon hd 6630m 1gb
#379 [10:58] <brylye89> does anyone know
#380 [10:58] <Lutzee> Hmm, that should be okay
#381 [10:58] <Lutzee> Jac: What laptop is it?
#382 [10:58] <Jac> i am completly stumped why minecraft doesnt work on my computer
#383 [10:59] <Jac> a sony vpcsa3a/fx
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#385 [10:59] <marko> can any1 help me i updated and now if i try to open inventory or game pause menu it instantly crashes
#386 [11:00] <marko> please help me
#387 [11:01] <marko> :(
#388 [11:01] <Lutzee> ??> marko forceupdate
#389 [11:01] <VoxelHead> marko: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#390 [11:01] <VoxelHead> marko: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#392 [11:02] <marko> i already got the normal update should i update again
#393 [11:02] <Lutzee> Yes
#394 [11:02] <marko> ok i will
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#396 [11:03] <Lutzee> Jac: please download and install these drivers http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/swu-download.pl?mdl=VPCSA3AFX&upd_id=7727&os_group_id=6
#397 [11:03] <Lutzee> The download is at the bottom of the page
#398 [11:04] <Lutzee> >.>
#399 [11:04] <LilAcorn> I would like to know if there is a working rcon client that i can run on my PC to connect to my server?
#400 [11:05] <marko> sorry slow computer still working
#401 [11:05] <Lutzee> LilAcorn: i don't think anyone here has any experiance with rcon :/ I've never used it at least
#402 [11:05] <marko> minecraft worked fine for me before the update idk y it no work now
#403 [11:06] <LilAcorn> bummer thx.... ill keep looking in the future :) thx though
#404 [11:07] <marko> ok im reupdateing
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#407 [11:10] <marko> ok i reupdated and still same problem
#408 [11:11] <marko> should i del all .minecraft files and then reinstall mc
#409 [11:11] <marko> http://mibpaste.com/1ar5Ex
#410 [11:11] <marko> here is the screen text i get when it crash
#411 [11:12] <marko> helllo any1 here
#412 [11:12] <Selbram> ?? patience
#413 [11:12] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#414 [11:12] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#415 [11:12] <marko> ok
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#417 [11:14] <marko> hm maybe i need to update java
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#419 [11:21] <marko> hello can you help me
#420 [11:21] <Lutzee> Ohhhhhhh java 5 ._.
#421 [11:21] <Lutzee> Update java
#422 [11:21] <Lutzee> ?? java/1.6
#423 [11:21] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u35-downloads-1836473.html
#424 [11:21] <marko> so all i need to do is update java
#425 [11:22] <Lutzee> I don't know, but it could work
#426 [11:22] <marko> well i have that IBM java installed
#427 [11:22] <marko> i try to update brb
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#429 [11:24] <marko> nope there is no update button i just download the 1.6 btw minecraft worked fine before the update
#430 [11:25] <Lutzee> IBM have stopped supporting their own version of java as far as i know
#431 [11:25] <Lutzee> you should be using the main release from oracle
#432 [11:26] <marko> i know my father works in ibm so shouldi get java 7 and uninstall all previous versions
#433 [11:26] <Lutzee> Yes
#434 [11:26] <marko> ok
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#436 [11:27] <marko> wow this takes long
#437 [11:28] <marko> my computer is slow
#438 [11:28] <Lutzee> It is a very old PC
#439 [11:28] <marko> i know
#440 [11:29] <marko> i hope this works
#441 [11:29] <marko> i really love minecraft
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#445 [11:30] <Jewprepper> hello
#446 [11:30] <marko> ok all removed now getting latest version
#447 [11:30] <Jewprepper> im looking for a 1.4.6 server..anyone running a RPG server?
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#449 [11:30] <Lutzee> Jewprepper: No one is allowed to advertise here
#450 [11:31] <Morrolan> Most public servers won't update 'till Bukkit + the vital plugins have updated, marko.
#451 [11:31] <Jewprepper> um..im seeking a server, what room should i go to?
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#453 [11:31] <marko> i didnt ask that question
#454 [11:31] <Lutzee> Jewprepper: might want to look here http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/197-pc-servers/
#455 [11:31] <Morrolan> marko - Ah, yes, my bad.
#456 [11:31] <marko> estimated 2 mins
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#458 [11:32] <marko> till java 7
#459 [11:33] <marko> ok im installing
#460 [11:34] <marko> ok i installed it what now
#461 [11:34] <Lutzee> Try minecraft
#462 [11:34] <marko> ok brb
#463 [11:35] <marko> nope i get a black screen then it closes
#464 [11:36] <marko> http://pastebin.com/NxJ8zNGS
#465 [11:36] <marko> thats the error log
#466 [11:36] <Lutzee> Ahhh
#467 [11:36] <Lutzee> now that is different, that is graphics driver problems
#468 [11:36] <Lutzee> ??> marko win/dxdiag
#469 [11:36] <VoxelHead> marko: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#470 [11:36] <VoxelHead> marko: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#472 [11:37] <marko> whit u need dxdia
#473 [11:37] <marko> dxdiag
#474 [11:37] <Lutzee> It will tell me the hard ware in your PC and what version of the drivers it is running
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#476 [11:38] <Guest8238> Hello!
#477 [11:38] <Lutzee> Hey
#478 [11:39] <Guest8238> Yipee! Somebodey answered me!
#479 [11:39] <Guest8238> How to run minecraft?
#480 [11:39] <marko> http://pastebin.com/ugxjEeRE
#481 [11:39] <marko> thats the dxdiag
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#483 [11:39] <DJ_yoeri> what means a lot of items has been tweaked
#484 [11:40] <Lutzee> Guest8238: Download the launcher from minecraft.net/download run it and login
#485 [11:40] <Guest8238> I will try...
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#488 [11:42] <hunter_> hello
#489 [11:42] <marko> so what now
#490 [11:42] <Lutzee> marko: i'm looking for any updated drivers
#491 [11:42] <Guest8238> It says "User is not premium".
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#494 [11:43] <hunter_> i need to degrade minecraft can u help
#495 [11:43] <Guest8238> What should I do?
#496 [11:43] * tryy3 is now known as tryy3|away
#497 [11:43] <hunter_> idont know im asking u
#498 [11:43] <Calinou> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_5/minecraft.jar
#499 [11:43] <Calinou> there
#500 [11:44] <Lutzee> Guest8238: What is your minecraft username?
#501 [11:44] <Guest8238> ukou1
#502 [11:44] <hunter_> 4321613
#503 [11:44] <marko> lutzee i think u need to know that when mc worked i always got an error that said bad image-javaw.exe
#504 [11:44] <Lutzee> marko: I can't seem to even find any drivers for it at all :/
#505 [11:45] <Lutzee> !paid ukou1
#506 [11:45] <Lutzee> Guest8238: When did you purchase the game?
#507 [11:45] <Guest8238> But in old minecraft versions i did not need to pay!
#508 [11:46] <Selbram> umm, you always needed to play
#509 [11:46] <hunter_> the link didnt work
#510 [11:46] <Selbram> othewise you were pirating the game
#511 [11:46] <Lutzee> Guest8238: The only version of the game that can be played for free is Minecraft classic and the demo
#512 [11:47] <Guest8238> But when I played it on the school computers it worked(for free).
#513 [11:47] <Lutzee> ??> hunter_ oldversion
#514 [11:47] <VoxelHead> hunter_: (oldversion) By now there are several ways to downgrade your version of Minecraft. Either use a tool like McNostalgia, use a backup of your own, or download the old Minecraft binaries provided by Mojang. See ?? oldversion/list for a list of available binaries.
#515 [11:47] <hunter_> can some one please tell me whaat to do to get back down to 1.4.5 not 1.4.6
#516 [11:47] <Lutzee> Guest8238: If your school has an account with MinecraftEDU then you probably could
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#518 [11:48] <Guest8238> Now I understand.
#519 [11:48] <Lutzee> !find minecraftedu
#520 [11:48] <Lutzee> >.>
#521 [11:48] <Lutzee> http://minecraftedu.com/
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#523 [11:49] <Guest8238> Interesting!
#524 [11:50] <Guest8238> goodbye
#525 [11:50] <Guest8238> exited normally >> exit code: 2256
#526 [11:50] <Guest8238> exited normally >> exit code: 2256
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#528 [11:50] <Calinou> O_o
#529 [11:51] <Calinou> Guest8238 should've learned UNIX signals :>
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#531 [11:52] <marko> ...
#532 [11:56] <marko> ...
#533 [11:56] <marko> :(
#534 [11:57] <Lutzee> marko: I really can't find anything, i am surprised it ever ran, the graphics drivers date back 8 years
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#536 [11:58] <jacob0307> I need help with a problem. When I do /kill in the End, I never respawn and I get a blue crash screen.
#537 [11:58] <jacob0307> This is 1.4.6
#538 [11:58] <Lutzee> jacob0307: what error do you get?
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#540 [11:58] <jacob0307> What part of it would I tell you?
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#542 [11:59] <jacob0307> Unexpected Error
#543 [11:59] <Lutzee> Just copy all the text to pastebin.com, press submit, then copy the link back here
#544 [12:00] <jacob0307> http://pastebin.com/j1MmwsWj
#545 [12:01] <Lutzee> Odd, let me see if i can reproduce the error#
#546 [12:02] <jacob0307> And every time after that I try to get on, It will just show the screen again.
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#552 [12:04] <Lutzee> jacob0307: okay i couldn't reproduce the error
#553 [12:04] <Lutzee> so
#554 [12:04] <Lutzee> ?? forceupdate
#555 [12:04] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#556 [12:04] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#557 [12:05] <jacob0307> Ok. Thanks for the help.
#558 [12:05] <jacob0307> Ok. Thanks for the help.
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#560 [12:05] <marko> already did force update
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#562 [12:05] <marko> lutzee this is the dxdiag http://pastebin.com/ugxjEeRE
#563 [12:06] <Lutzee> marko: i saw, but i can't find any graphics driver updates, and thats the thing that is causing the problem.
#564 [12:07] <marko> so the graphics is the problem
#565 [12:07] <marko> idk y it worked before
#566 [12:08] <marko> i will try again
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#568 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> .siteup
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#570 [12:10] * tyteen4a03 needs to remember to turn off his own .sitedown next time
#570 [12:11] <marko> tyteen you helped me last time can you help me again
#571 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> marko, hang on, I'm reading your dxdiag
#572 [12:12] <marko> i updated mc to 1.4.6 and i kept crashing i tried everything but now it wont even rn
#573 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> marko, can you try making a new world and see if Minecraft works normally?
#574 [12:13] <marko> tyteen i caqnt even open minecraft now
#575 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> ??> marko forceupdatye
#576 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> ??> marko forceupdate
#577 [12:13] <VoxelHead> marko: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#578 [12:13] <VoxelHead> marko: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#579 [12:13] <marko> can you team viewer help me get it back
#580 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> marko, forceupdate first
#581 [12:14] <marko> i put back java 5 like before and removed all .minecraft files then opened it it downloads files then goes black and nothing after
#582 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> marko, put back java 5?
#583 [12:14] <marko> jav 1.5
#584 [12:14] <Boreeas> /5/
#585 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> marko, you should get 6, not 5
#586 [12:15] <marko> i already tried that and it doesnt work should i put it back
#587 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> marko, no
#588 [12:15] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: he has java 7 now..
#589 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> marko, uninstall every version of java in your control panel and get java 6\
#590 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, what
#591 [12:15] <Lutzee> marko: Java 5 support is being phased out
#592 [12:16] <marko> ok lutzee i uninstalled 7
#593 [12:16] <marko> ill get java 6 wait
#594 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, not sure if java 7 will play well with xp
#595 [12:16] <Lutzee> It should be fine
#596 [12:17] <marko> tyteen forget java 6 it works now with 5 i got it to run but it will probably crash
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#598 [12:17] <tyteen4a03> marko, from minecraft 1.5 onwards, java 5 will not work with Minecraft
#599 [12:17] <sfwe> we have mincraft on the ipad and are getting it on the pc for our son for a xmas gift. can I just buy it and download or do I need to do something to link the two?
#600 [12:17] <tyteen4a03> sfwe, Minecraft PE and Minecraft are 2 different gameds
#601 [12:18] <marko> so should i get java 6 now
#602 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> *games
#603 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> marko, yes
#604 [12:18] <Lutzee> sfwe: They are completely seperate
#605 [12:18] <marko> ok
#606 [12:18] <sfwe> minecraft on pc and ipad are two different games? So he won't be able to link the two to be interchangeable?
#607 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> sfwe, yes
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#610 [12:18] <sfwe> ok so on the PC he is starting a brand new game right?
#611 [12:19] <Jhwarby> Hey guys, so minecraft's just not starting.
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#613 [12:19] <tyteen4a03> sfwe, yes
#614 [12:19] <sfwe> ok thanks!
#615 [12:19] <Jhwarby> I log in, and it shows the big MOJANG thing, then turns black.
#616 [12:19] <tyteen4a03> ??> Jhwarby forceupdate
#617 [12:19] <VoxelHead> Jhwarby: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#618 [12:19] <VoxelHead> Jhwarby: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#619 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> marko, also, your computer is very old, consider it a great time to buy a new PC, there are doomsday sale everywhere
#620 [12:20] <Jhwarby> LO
#621 [12:20] <Jhwarby> L
#622 [12:20] <marko> not where i live
#623 [12:20] <Jhwarby> Who believes in doomsday?
#624 [12:20] <Jhwarby> :P
#625 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, people that believes in doomsday
#626 [12:20] <marko> and yes i consider buying a new pc soon
#627 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, but otherwise it's still a great pre-christmas sale
#628 [12:20] <Jhwarby> I meant who HERE believes in doomsday.
#629 [12:21] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, VoxelHead or AuBot might
#630 [12:21] <Jhwarby> Awesome :P
#631 [12:21] <marko> ok almost done
#632 [12:21] <marko> oh ok done what now should i remove .minecraft
#633 [12:22] <tyteen4a03> marko, sure
#634 [12:22] <marko> ok
#635 [12:23] <marko> ok .minecraft is no more
#636 [12:23] <marko> now?
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#638 [12:24] <tyteen4a03> marko, start the game
#639 [12:24] <marko> ok
#640 [12:25] <Jhwarby> Just asking, how do you use fireworks in 1.4.6?
#641 [12:25] <Jhwarby> Like, set them off
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#644 [12:26] <Lutzee> Jhwarby: this might help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMKYss6zY2o
#645 [12:26] <VoxelHead> Minecraft: Fireworks and Enchanted Books (Snapshot 12w49a) ( by CaptainSparklez )
#646 [12:26] <marko> tyteen nothing i download then black screen
#647 [12:26] <Necrodoom> Jhwarby: after crafted?
#648 [12:26] <Necrodoom> Jhwarby: right click, or dispense
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#650 [12:26] <Jhwarby> What is the name of them? Is it firework star?
#651 [12:27] <Necrodoom> fire work rocket
#652 [12:27] <Necrodoom> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Firework_Rocket
#653 [12:27] <marko> http://mibpaste.com/Ww36Yt this is the error log
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#655 [12:27] <Jhwarby> 1 sec
#656 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> marko, I'd say your PC is no longer able to handle minecraft
#657 [12:28] <marko> :( really? y not
#658 [12:28] <Jhwarby> There's nothing there except the fire work star.
#659 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, firework star create firework rocket I think
#660 [12:29] <Jhwarby> I search for items in creative, and that's all that's there
#661 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> marko, your PC is a product of 6 years ago, I can of course continue fixing it but I don't think it will help much
#662 [12:29] <marko> well can you please try
#663 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> marko, how many Java installations are inside your Add/Remove programs window now?
#664 [12:30] <|Anthony|> is the Gold Sword the worst of all the Swords?
#665 [12:30] <|Anthony|> all things considered?
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#667 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> |Anthony|, consider wood the worst
#668 [12:30] <|Anthony|> oh what points?
#669 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> everything?
#670 [12:31] <marko> tyteen only java 6
#671 [12:31] <marko> u can go chech i have team viewer ready
#672 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> hmm, it looks like minecraft only works with java 5 then
#673 [12:31] <|Anthony|> tyteen4a03, the gold sword has lower durability and inflicts equal damage
#674 [12:31] <marko> should i put back java 5
#675 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> marko, wait a second
#676 [12:32] <tyteen4a03> |Anthony|, are you comparing gold to wood?
#677 [12:32] <|Anthony|> yes
#678 [12:32] <tyteen4a03> |Anthony|, from my memory wood is worse than gold
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#680 [12:32] <|Anthony|> the only thing is it's enchant bonus
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#682 [12:32] <marko> wood is worse than gold
#683 [12:32] <|Anthony|> i'm looking at the wiki right now
#684 [12:32] <|Anthony|> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Sword
#685 [12:33] <Jhwarby> How do you extend the flight duration of fireworks?
#686 [12:33] <marko> more gun powder
#687 [12:33] <Jhwarby> tOkk
#688 [12:33] <|Anthony|> wood lasts longer and has equal damage
#689 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> marko, follow the procedures listed here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#690 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#691 [12:33] <marko> ok
#692 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> ??< java/lwjgl
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#694 [12:34] <|Anthony|> fyi mc will stop supporting java5 iirc
#695 [12:34] <Jhwarby> Is there a way to craft more gunpoiwder into it?
#696 [12:34] <Kasper> Can anyone tell me where the minecraft-server.zip has moved to or what the new name might be please?
#697 [12:35] <|Anthony|> i run mc with java7
#698 [12:35] <marko> i know it wil
#699 [12:35] <Lutzee> Kasper: it is always found on minecraft.net/download
#700 [12:36] <Kasper> so the zip just has the .jar file in it?
#701 [12:36] <marko> ty so all i do is replace these files
#702 [12:36] <Lutzee> Kasper: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar Is always the latest server jar
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#704 [12:37] <Kasper> ok thanks
#705 [12:37] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#706 [12:37] <marko> index?
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#708 [12:37] <tyteen4a03> marko, a reference guide for helpers
#709 [12:38] <marko> um ok
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#711 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> ??< java/1.6
#712 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> ??- java/1.6
#713 [12:39] <marko> ty so should i keep java 6
#714 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> ??+ java/1.6 To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u38-downloads-1877409.html
#715 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> marko, no
#716 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> ??+ java/1.6|To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u38-downloads-1877409.html
#717 [12:39] <fapfe> loking for linux server 1.4.6
#718 [12:39] <marko> ty so should i put on java 5
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#720 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> fapfe, minecraft.net/download will always contain the newest server jars
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#722 [12:40] <fapfe> windows is up to date. linux not
#723 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> fapfe, the server jar is platform independent
#724 [12:40] <Lutzee> fapfe: assets.minecraft.net/1_4_6/minecraft_server.jar
#725 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, so server jar is not updated? psh
#726 [12:41] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: i'm checking now
#727 [12:41] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: nope it is fine
#728 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> oh ok
#729 [12:42] <Lutzee> Its probably all updated from the build server
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#731 [12:43] <fapfe> can I download now?
#732 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> fapfe, sure
#733 [12:43] <marko> ty ok i replaced the files what to dop now
#734 [12:44] <marko> ty wich java shgould i have now
#735 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> marko, 5
#736 [12:44] <marko> ok
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#738 [12:47] <marko> ok i got java 5 what now ty
#739 [12:48] <tyteen4a03> marko, the game should run
#740 [12:48] <tyteen4a03> ??+ java/1.5|Please note that Java 1.5 is _outdated and unsupported by Oracle__, and Minecraft will not support Java 5 starting from the release of 1.6. Only very old PCs need Java 5 to run Minecraft - in almost all cases you want Java 6.;;You can get Java 5 for near any platform here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javasebusiness/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase5-419410.html#jre
#741 [12:48] <tyteen4a03> -1.5.0_22-oth-JPR
#742 [12:48] <tyteen4a03> ...what
#743 [12:48] <Lutzee> Ouch
#744 [12:48] <tyteen4a03> ??- java/1.5
#745 [12:48] <Lutzee> Too long
#746 [12:48] <Lutzee> is.gd the link use the mc_ prefix
#747 [12:48] <marko> ok i have java 5 replaced the files now should i run mc
#748 [12:49] <marko> i think i will
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#751 [12:49] <marko> ty should i run mc
#752 [12:49] <marko> now
#753 [12:49] <tyteen4a03> marko, yes
#754 [12:50] <marko> ok i hope it works
#755 [12:50] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: heres a shortlink http://is.gd/mc_j5
#756 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> ??+ java/1.5|Please note that Java 1.5 is _outdated and unsupported by Oracle__, and Minecraft will not support Java 5 starting from the release of 1.6. Only very old PCs need Java 5 to run Minecraft - in almost all cases you want Java 6.;;You can get Java 5 for near any platform here: http://is.gd/mc_j5
#757 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, thanks
#758 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> ugh
#759 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> _bold_
#760 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> __bold__
#761 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> uh I suck
#762 [12:50] <Lutzee> Bold :)
#763 [12:51] <tyteen4a03> ??- java/1.5
#764 [12:51] <Lutzee> Rightclick the text input in hexchat, it will give you the options
#765 [12:51] <marko> ty mc now runs should i test it for crashes like before
#766 [12:51] <tyteen4a03> marko, yes
#767 [12:51] <marko> ok
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#771 [12:54] <marko> ty the inventory now opens and the game menu then should aswell thankyou you are the greatest helper ever thank you
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#774 [12:55] <tyteen4a03> marko, you'll want to buy a new PC before 1.6 releases
#775 [12:55] <marko> you are amazing
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#778 [12:56] <marko> and yes i do consider that ill make suer it has perfect conditions for mc a 4GHz processor good video and sound but until then thank you very much
#779 [12:57] <marko> i hope i wont get these errors for a long time
#780 [12:57] <marko> sorry but now i really have to go
#781 [12:58] <marko> thank you again
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#784 [13:02] <tyteen4a03> http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2012/12/20/westerville-drunken-man-enters-home-falls-asleep-boys-bed.html
#785 [13:02] <tyteen4a03> lol
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#788 [13:03] <tyteen4a03> .on
#789 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> Please pardon the disruption; this is only a test.
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#791 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: I said _authorized_ personnel. (:
#792 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> .on
#793 [13:03] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti, so only you and you? :P
#794 [13:03] <Calinou> tyteen4a03: westerville's drunken man enters, home falls asleep on boys' bed
#795 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> and a short list of others.
#796 [13:03] <Calinou> ^ how I read URLs
#797 [13:04] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, oh you
#798 [13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: wat.
#799 [13:04] <Calinou> the
#800 [13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> banana
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#802 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: now, if you were to say .list, you would get the list of who's waiting in line
#803 [13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> .list
#804 [13:04] <tyteen4a03> .list
#805 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> like t4, here
#806 [13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> i got nothing
#807 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> .next
#808 [13:04] <VoxelHead> t4: please ask your question now. You will be helped by DopeGhoti
#809 [13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> .list
#810 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> t4, how may we assist you?
#811 [13:05] <tyteen4a03> .list
#812 [13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> i got nothing before or after you said .next
#813 [13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> i got nothing before or after you said .next
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#816 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> WhereIsMySpoon: theck your status window
#817 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> or wherever your notices go
#818 [13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> DopeGhoti: nope
#819 [13:05] <Lutzee> Nice [18:05] -VoxelHead- Please be patient and wait for your turn as we are busy right now. You are number 1 in line. Thank you!
#820 [13:05] <t4> YOU ALL SUCK, MY 1.5 DOES NOT WORK
#821 [13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> nothing there
#822 [13:05] * tyteen4a03 kicked t4 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: 4 :good)
#823 [13:05] <tyteen4a03> .next
#824 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> okay then.
#825 [13:05] <VoxelHead> lutzee|wc: please ask your question now. You will be helped by tyteen4a03
#826 [13:05] <Lutzee> Cool
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#828 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> .off
#829 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> I see
#830 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> before I was about to use .list VoxelHead asked for my password
#831 [13:07] <tyteen4a03> so let's see if I can .on
#832 [13:07] <tyteen4a03> .on
#833 [13:07] <tyteen4a03> nope
#834 [13:07] <tyteen4a03> oh well
#835 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: at present, those who can turn the most on and off are a very short list, as this most is not intended to be used outside of extremely high-traffic conditions
#836 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti, maybe while they're in line Vox can send some help guidelines so they can get busy before we assist them?
#837 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: a good idea, which is on the radar.
#838 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> oh, so it's not linked to the party line?
#839 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> WhereIsMySpoon: you should now have access to the queue-based commands
#840 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> you may ahve also gotten some messages from Vox
#841 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: define 'it'. There are some connections to partyline access
#842 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti, the whole queue system
#843 [13:10] <DopeGhoti> the queue itself is strictly channel-based
#844 [13:10] <DopeGhoti> access levels are determined through user's access flags on the channel
#845 [13:10] <DopeGhoti> users', even
#846 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> I see
#847 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> !flags
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#849 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> uh
#850 [13:11] <DopeGhoti> Vox flags; not Esper IRC Services bot flags.
#851 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti, oh
#852 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> derp
#853 [13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> DopeGhoti: got it
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#855 [13:12] <ha> phone number for mojang
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#857 [13:12] <Selbram> http://support.mojang.com
#858 [13:12] <ha> can i talk to notch
#859 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> ha, Mojang does not provide Phone service, and no, not directly
#860 [13:13] <DopeGhoti> ha: is there something with which you need assistance?
#861 [13:13] <ha> minecraft xbox 360
#862 [13:14] <Selbram> What seems to be the problem
#863 [13:14] <DopeGhoti> would you care to be more specific?
#864 [13:14] <ha> no end but has frames
#865 [13:15] <ha> for end
#866 [13:15] <ha> hello
#867 [13:15] <ha> ...
#868 [13:15] <Selbram> what are you asking
#869 [13:15] <Selbram> ?? patience
#870 [13:15] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#871 [13:15] <ha> end
#872 [13:15] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#873 [13:16] <Selbram> you said one workd "end"
#874 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> Please form your question in the form of a question.
#875 [13:16] <ha> what
#876 [13:16] <ha> ???
#877 [13:16] <Selbram> We would like to assist you but we cannot understand your issue.
#878 [13:17] <ha> where is the end
#879 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> this may help:
#880 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkOa6kCLbyg
#881 [13:17] <VoxelHead> Minecraft Xbox 360 Edition - "The End"/How To Make/Find Ender Portal 1.0.1 Update-Ender Dragon! End ( by Blackspur276 )
#882 [13:18] <ha> ty are you on xbox
#883 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> I am not, no.
#884 [13:18] <ha> voxel are you
#885 [13:19] <ha> ???
#886 [13:19] <ha> ???
#887 [13:19] <ha> ???
#888 [13:19] <ha> ??
#889 [13:19] <ha> ?
#890 [13:19] <Selbram> voxel is a bot
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#892 [13:19] <Selbram> and ?? patience
#893 [13:19] <Selbram> and ?? patience
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#895 [13:19] <Selbram> ?? patience
#896 [13:19] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#897 [13:19] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#898 [13:19] <ha> bye
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#901 [13:22] <Tokensgirl98> when i log in to play minecraft it comes up as a black screen
#902 [13:22] <tyteen4a03> Tokensgirl98, has Minecraft ever worked before?
#903 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> that was a weird conversation
#904 [13:23] <Tokensgirl98> yes it used to never mess up now we cant get it to work
#905 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> ??> Tokensgirl98 forceupdate
#906 [13:23] <VoxelHead> Tokensgirl98: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#907 [13:23] <VoxelHead> Tokensgirl98: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#909 [13:24] <Tokensgirl98> ok i will try it
#910 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> I have a show in a few hours and I don't think I will be getting any sleep :D
#911 [13:24] <Tokensgirl98> i just did it now im wating
#912 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> Tokensgirl98, it will take a while, depending on your internet connection and the download server's internet connection (a new update just came out, millions of people are downloading it)
#913 [13:25] <Tokensgirl98> ok
#914 [13:27] <Tokensgirl98> it still didnt work
#915 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> when you say it didn't work, what exactly did happen?
#916 [13:28] <Tokensgirl98> it brought up a blank black screen that i had to go to my windows task manager to get out of the black screen
#917 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> all right. I presume you are running Windows?
#918 [13:30] <Tokensgirl98> yes
#919 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> do you now or have you ever had any mods or texture packs installed?
#920 [13:31] <Tokensgirl98> i think my daughter did 2 or 3
#921 [13:31] <Tokensgirl98> texture packs
#922 [13:31] <Tokensgirl98> not mods
#923 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> okay, that could be (part of) the problem
#924 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> new releases nearly always break texture packs
#925 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/reinst
#926 [13:31] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#927 [13:32] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#928 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> to reiterate what Vox said: delete anything in that directory other than "saves"
#929 [13:32] <Tokensgirl98> thank you have a nice day :)
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#931 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> oaky then
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#934 [13:34] <PvpMiky-Youtube> hello
#935 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> salutations
#936 [13:34] <PvpMiky-Youtube> My minecraft has bad video card drivers
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#938 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> PvpMiky-Youtube: do you know what video card your computer has?
#939 [13:35] <PvpMiky-Youtube> eumh
#940 [13:35] <Genesis15> when i goto join a server it loads everything then says that the pixel format is not accelerated... what do i need to do to fix this?
#941 [13:35] <PvpMiky-Youtube> my own pc is work on minecraft but this is my father it doens'\t work on this
#942 [13:35] <PvpMiky-Youtube> i look brb
#943 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, I assume you're on Windows?
#944 [13:36] <Genesis15> yes
#945 [13:36] <PvpMiky-Youtube> Tul Corporation Radeon 9200se
#946 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, has this error ever happened before?
#947 [13:36] <Genesis15> this is the first time i have tried to play it on this computer
#948 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> ??> Genesis15 win/dxdiag/bat
#949 [13:36] <VoxelHead> Genesis15: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#950 [13:37] <VoxelHead> Genesis15: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#951 [13:37] <Genesis15> i was trying to play the multiplayer classic version
#952 [13:37] <Jhwarby> Hey guys, I just want some stuff that appeared in my console clarifying: http://pastebin.com/AsG4fhmk
#953 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, Classic is no longer supported, are you looking for the demo?
#954 [13:37] <Genesis15> because the modern is at home
#955 [13:37] <Genesis15> no i just want to play the classic for now
#956 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, you can download Minecraft again on different computers by logging into your mojang accounts
#957 [13:38] <Genesis15> yeah but like i said i want to play classic
#958 [13:38] <PvpMiky-Youtube> genes
#959 [13:38] <PvpMiky-Youtube> illegil or?
#960 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, we no longer support the classic version but since there's an graphical error when loading classic version, it will probably pop up again in Minecraft modern. Please follow the instructions above
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#962 [13:38] <Genesis15> ok
#963 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> I'll repost the instructions for you, please follow
#964 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> ??> Genesis15 win/dxdiag/bat
#965 [13:38] <VoxelHead> Genesis15: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#966 [13:39] <VoxelHead> Genesis15: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#967 [13:39] <PvpMiky-Youtube> go to www.qtorrent.nl and download than go to www.malaysiabay.nl en tap minecraft and download!!
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#970 [13:40] <Lutzee> Don't visit those links, they may be unsafe.
#971 [13:40] <Calinou> lol
#972 [13:40] <Genesis15> ok is there another site other than pastebin?
#973 [13:40] <Lutzee> paste.ubuntu.com
#974 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, if pastebin.com doesn't work, try pastie.org
#975 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> or that
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#978 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, Achievement Unlocked: Changing your nick
#979 [13:42] <Jhwarby> -_-
#980 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> :P
#981 [13:44] <Genesis15> http://pastie.org/5558379
#982 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, hang on
#983 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, I just read your trace and it looks like bukkit is the cause
#984 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, I just read your trace and it looks like bukkit is the cause
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#987 [13:44] <Jhwarby> Come again?
#988 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, I just read your trace and it looks like bukkit is the cause
#989 [13:45] <Genesis15> what is bukkit?
#990 [13:45] <Calinou> a server mod
#991 [13:45] <Genesis15> opps
#992 [13:45] <Genesis15> lol
#993 [13:45] <Calinou> (craftbukkit actually)
#994 [13:45] <Jhwarby> A magical world that lets you have fancy plugins and stuff on your server
#995 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> ??> Genesis15 gpu/intel
#996 [13:45] <VoxelHead> Genesis15: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#997 [13:45] <Jhwarby> ??> Genesis15 Bukkit
#998 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, please update your graphic drivers by going there
#999 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, nope
#1000 [13:45] <Jhwarby> ??> index
#1001 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> ??> Jhwarby bot/help
#1002 [13:45] <VoxelHead> Jhwarby: (bot/help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
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#1004 [13:45] <VoxelHead> Jhwarby: (bot/help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#1005 [13:46] <Jhwarby> ??>> index
#1006 [13:46] <Genesis15> what download would i need?
#1007 [13:46] <Jhwarby> This is annoying.
#1008 [13:46] <Jhwarby> How do I fix?
#1009 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, try the Auto Detect one
#1010 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, fix what?
#1011 [13:46] <Genesis15> ok
#1012 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, I mean the Intel Driver Update Utility
#1013 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> my bad, mixing AMD site with Intel's
#1014 [13:48] <Jhwarby> The "cause"
#1015 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, try backing up your bukkit.yml, let bukkit regenerate a new one and fill the old settings in
#1016 [13:48] <Genesis15> i i got it
#1017 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, got the driver? good
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#1020 [13:49] <Genesis15> no what you ment.. that what i got
#1021 [13:49] <Genesis15> this computers firewall is blocking it...
#1022 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, unblock it
#1023 [13:50] <Genesis15> cant this is a very secure computer system that im using... aka "school computer
#1024 [13:50] <Lutzee> Oh...
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#1026 [13:50] <Lutzee> Yeah, you can't do anything about it then
#1027 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, usually school computer sucks
#1028 [13:51] <Genesis15> i could try but im not sure if it will let me
#1029 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> probably not
#1030 [13:51] <Genesis15> yeah.. thats why i wanted to use the classic version cause i knew it wouldnt let me download the modern one..
#1031 [13:51] <Selbram> We are not magicians and classic is not supported
#1032 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, classic version depends on the same graphics libraries modern depends on
#1033 [13:52] <Genesis15> thanks for your help anyway.. good luck
#1034 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> Genesis15, no problem
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#1037 [13:56] <McGill2009> Hi, can anyone help with me downgrading minecraft from 1.4.6 to 1.4.5?
#1038 [13:56] <NolanSyKinsley> use MCNostalgia
#1039 [13:57] <Calinou> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_5/minecraft.jar
#1040 [13:57] <Calinou> since when MCNostalgia works for 1.4.6 :P
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#1042 [14:00] <mattym> Is there a method to duplicate at written book?
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#1044 [14:01] <NolanSyKinsley> with mods yea
#1045 [14:01] <mattym> no vanilla option?
#1046 [14:01] <tyteen4a03> mattym, I believe not
#1047 [14:01] <mattym> damn, they really need to do something about that
#1048 [14:02] <NolanSyKinsley> printing press?
#1049 [14:02] <mattym> lol, good idea
#1050 [14:03] <mattym> off the top of your head NolanSyKinsley do you know which mod has that ability?
#1051 [14:04] <NolanSyKinsley> SPC does I believe, the /more command
#1052 [14:04] <NolanSyKinsley> on a server it would be either essentials or worldedit
#1053 [14:04] <mattym> oh
#1054 [14:04] <mattym> so only bukkit stuff?
#1055 [14:04] <NolanSyKinsley> are you looking for single player or multi player?
#1056 [14:05] <mattym> sad face....
#1057 [14:05] <mattym> multiplayer
#1058 [14:05] <mattym> i want to have a chest at spawn with a "Manual" in them
#1059 [14:06] <NolanSyKinsley> Essentials has the /more command
#1060 [14:06] <mattym> yeah but i dont use bukkit
#1061 [14:07] <NolanSyKinsley> you run a vanilla server?
#1062 [14:07] <mattym> with some forge mods
#1063 [14:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? mods
#1064 [14:08] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1065 [14:08] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1081 [14:31] <Jhwarby> Now, where do I find the craftbukkit.jar?
#1082 [14:31] <Jhwarby> ??>> oldversion
#1083 [14:32] <Jhwarby> ?? oldversion
#1084 [14:32] <VoxelHead> oldversion: By now there are several ways to downgrade your version of Minecraft. Either use a tool like McNostalgia, use a backup of your own, or download the old Minecraft binaries provided by Mojang. See ?? oldversion/list for a list of available binaries.
#1085 [14:32] <Jhwarby> Guys?
#1086 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> Jhwarby: you're not going to find much in the way of links to mod installers here.
#1087 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> try http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=craftbukkit&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDkQjBAwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.bukkit.org%2Fdownloads%2Fcraftbukkit%2F&ei=0mfTUPGBM8ijigKnuIHAAw&usg=AFQjCNEojo3nx1pfgWqvjtLzQh8foMATng&sig2=zuKqrSRh0XhXIkr_lBI19A&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.cGE
#1088 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> oh Google, you so silly
#1089 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> http://dl.bukkit.org/downloads/craftbukkit/
#1090 [14:34] <Jhwarby> No, I meant inside my folder
#1091 [14:34] <Jhwarby> I already have it on
#1092 [14:34] <Jhwarby> But I don't know where it is
#1093 [14:34] <Jhwarby> :P
#1094 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> On windows:
#1095 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/.minecraft
#1096 [14:34] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1097 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> I would guess
#1098 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> but I don't have any mod-fu, so I cannot speak with authority
#1099 [14:35] <Jhwarby> In my server folder, not my .minecraft folder
#1100 [14:35] <Lutzee> What do you mean find it?
#1101 [14:36] <Jhwarby> Isn't there a file called craftbukkit.1.4.6.jar or something like that in my folder?
#1102 [14:36] <Lutzee> Jhwarby: you have to put the jar into your server folder yourself
#1103 [14:37] <Lutzee> You PC doesn't just know "Oh this file is meant to be here" unless its told to be there by you
#1104 [14:37] <Jhwarby> It's already in there, but I can't find it. Lol.
#1105 [14:37] <Lutzee> O.o
#1106 [14:37] <Lutzee> Sort alphabettically > scroll down the list
#1107 [14:39] <Jhwarby> Here arer the files in my server folder: http://pastebin.com/H9hPjPye
#1108 [14:39] <Jhwarby> are*
#1109 [14:39] <Jhwarby> Craftbukkit is definetely installed though
#1110 [14:39] <Jhwarby> I don't host my server
#1111 [14:39] <Jhwarby> Someone else does
#1112 [14:39] <Lutzee> It obviously isn't
#1113 [14:39] <Jhwarby> Do they do it differently?
#1114 [14:40] <Lutzee> Might do
#1115 [14:40] <Lutzee> check the lib folder
#1116 [14:40] <Jhwarby> Empty
#1117 [14:40] <Jhwarby> They host on a linux if that helps
#1118 [14:41] <Jhwarby> Probably
#1119 [14:41] <Jhwarby> That's what it said on a crash report
#1120 [14:41] <Lutzee> Then ask the host, they might be running the craftbukkit file from a directory that you don't have access to
#1121 [14:41] <Jhwarby> I'll just check all of the folders
#1122 [14:42] <Jhwarby> I update it myself, I just jave to select it from a dropdown menu
#1123 [14:42] <Jhwarby> have*
#1124 [14:42] <Jhwarby> I don't drop the file in there or anything
#1125 [14:43] <Jhwarby> ?? index
#1126 [14:43] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1127 [14:43] <Jhwarby> ?? ask/wtf
#1128 [14:43] <VoxelHead> ask/wtf: Please form your question in the form of a question. Whatever you just said was unclear.
#1129 [14:43] <Jhwarby> ?? rules
#1130 [14:43] <VoxelHead> rules: http://is.gd/zB1w9I
#1131 [14:45] <Jhwarby> Oh well, I'll just have to figure out how to make my minecraft not crash when I mod it
#1132 [14:45] <Jhwarby> :D
#1133 [14:45] <Jhwarby> I don't suppose anyone is a proffesional modder?
#1134 [14:45] <Jhwarby> No?
#1135 [14:45] <Jhwarby> Didn;t think so.
#1136 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> I don't think many people get paid for modding minecraft.
#1137 [14:48] <NolanSyKinsley> I did a while back, not that much and not for that long
#1138 [14:48] <Jhwarby> It's the thought that counts.
#1139 [14:49] <Jhwarby> Everyone, cross your fingers for me.
#1140 [14:49] <Jhwarby> DO IT NOW.
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#1142 [14:49] <Jhwarby> Yaaay
#1143 [14:49] <Jhwarby> It worked :))
#1144 [14:51] <Jhwarby> Now I have to change texturepack..
#1145 [14:51] <Jhwarby> Without crashing the bloody thing.
#1146 [14:51] <Jhwarby> It crashe.
#1147 [14:51] <Jhwarby> d#
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#1150 [14:52] <Rudgar> Hello
#1151 [14:53] <Rudgar> Anyone here fluent with Mac?
#1152 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> Rudgar: I try to be.
#1153 [14:53] <Rudgar> Cool - I'm trying to access my library in order to get Tekkit working and possibly install mods or other texture packs
#1154 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> Rudgar mac/.minecraft
#1155 [14:54] <VoxelHead> Rudgar: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#1156 [14:54] <Rudgar> however, even when using the terminal to unhide hidden folders as wll as the library, I still cannot find or access it
#1157 [14:54] <Jonesbaer> hi, i have made a nitrado server for minecraft, i have no problems to join but my friend have got a problem. We have both the original payed minecraft edition, but my friend gets this answer when he wants to connect to my server:[15:40:56] Timo: Failed to login: java.io.FileNotFoundExeption:
#1158 [14:54] <Jonesbaer> Pls help us
#1159 [14:54] <Rudgar> Yes, thank you Voxel, I already tried that
#1160 [14:54] <Rudgar> it's still invisible/nonexistent/stolen by endermen
#1161 [14:55] <Lutzee> ?? mac/library
#1162 [14:55] <VoxelHead> mac/library: If your Library folder in your home directory is hidden, run the following command in Temrinal to reveal it: chflags nohidden ~/Library/
#1163 [14:55] <Rudgar> I did that as well
#1164 [14:55] <Rudgar> the unhiding
#1165 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> okay
#1166 [14:55] <Jhwarby> I'm no professional at this, but is your server modded?
#1167 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> in the terminal, can you cd into ~/Library?
#1168 [14:55] <Rudgar> still invisible/nonexisten/stolen by endermen
#1169 [14:55] <Rudgar> Not as far as I know? I'll try
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#1171 [14:56] <Rudgar> Apparently not?
#1172 [14:56] <Jonesbaer> my server is not modded its the newest vanilla
#1173 [14:56] <Lutzee> Er odd, you are on an administrator account?
#1174 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> Rudgar: what happens when you try to execute that command?
#1175 [14:57] <Rudgar> Nothing happens
#1176 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> Rudgar: so you type in `cd ~/Library` and press Retrun, and nothing whatsoever happens?
#1177 [14:57] <Jhwarby> Is your server modded?
#1178 [14:57] <Rudgar> Nothing in the slightest
#1179 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> the cursor doesn't go to the next line; you gon't get another prompt; it's as though you didn't press Return at all?
#1180 [14:58] <Rudgar> It does go to the next line and I reieve a prompt
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#1182 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> that, sir or ma'am or other, is not 'nothing' (:
#1183 [14:58] * TyanColte|2 is now known as TyanColte
#1184 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> okay, now, type `cd "Application Support"`
#1185 [14:58] <Rudgar> Ok, ok, It just looks like nothing. Apologies
#1186 [14:58] <Rudgar> I'm not super techy
#1187 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> that's all right; it's jsut that 'nothing happend' is almost never the case (:
#1188 [14:59] <Rudgar> Ahahah, fair enough
#1189 [14:59] <Jhwarby> Nothing in the slightest = something's wrong with you.
#1190 [14:59] <Jhwarby> :)
#1191 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> Jhwarby: or the computer
#1192 [14:59] <Rudgar> ok, I have a prompt that says Application Support
#1193 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> anyhow
#1194 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> perfect
#1195 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> now type `cd minecraft`
#1196 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> (and press Return)
#1197 [14:59] <Jhwarby> Well done :)
#1198 [15:00] <Jhwarby> You're doing good, don't screw it up now!
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#1200 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> then, type `open .` and press Return; you should have a Finder window open up
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#1202 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> (to clarify: open, a space, and a period)
#1203 [15:00] <Jhwarby> My god, I can't go on my server because the craftbukkit's not updated yet.
#1204 [15:00] <Rudgar> UH> Thanks Jhwarby, for really non-helpful passive-aggressive comments
#1205 [15:00] <Jhwarby> Passive, not aggressive. And you're welcome!
#1206 [15:00] <Lutzee> ??> Jhwarby oldversion
#1207 [15:00] <VoxelHead> Jhwarby: (oldversion) By now there are several ways to downgrade your version of Minecraft. Either use a tool like McNostalgia, use a backup of your own, or download the old Minecraft binaries provided by Mojang. See ?? oldversion/list for a list of available binaries.
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#1209 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> Jhwarby: and that's why we don't support mods.
#1210 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jhwarby recentupdate
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#1212 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jhwarby smp/recentupdate
#1213 [15:01] <VoxelHead> Jhwarby: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#1214 [15:01] <VoxelHead> Jhwarby: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#1215 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> Rudgar: how are we doing?
#1216 [15:01] <Jhwarby> Yeah, thanks for the tip, I just thought I'd mention it.
#1217 [15:02] <Rudgar> Hey, thanks DopeGhoti
#1218 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> got it open? Splendid!
#1219 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> happy to have helped.
#1220 [15:02] <Rudgar> You're a bacon-saver. Cheers!
#1221 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> That'll be $8
#1222 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1223 [15:04] <Rudgar> I'll give you my firstborn. You can anme it Steve
#1224 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> whoa whoa
#1225 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> kids are expensive
#1226 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> no thanks
#1227 [15:04] <Rudgar> *name
#1228 [15:04] <Rudgar> and snot-covered and germ-filled, don't forget
#1229 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> poor health is just another expense
#1230 [15:05] <Rudgar> hahaha
#1231 [15:07] <Rudgar> can I get into the tekkit folder in the same way?
#1232 [15:07] <VoxelHead> baa baa black bacon
#1233 [15:07] <Jhwarby> How did getting to a finder thing help him get his friend onto his server?
#1234 [15:07] <Jhwarby> Or was that someone else?
#1235 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> you can open any folder in the finder by going to that directory with `cd` in the Terminal, and typing 'open .'
#1236 [15:08] <Rudgar> The more you know
#1237 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> or, if you know the path, you can use 'open /path/to/some/directory'
#1238 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> ⋯-=≡★ ♪ The More You Know… ♫
#1239 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> indeed
#1240 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> cd dev/jar/tips
#1241 [15:08] <Jhwarby> Hey guys, are charged creepers more dangerous than normal creepers?
#1242 [15:08] <Rudgar> It's like being back at school, but for actually useful things
#1243 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> Jhwarby, they explode, so I guess so
#1244 [15:09] <Rudgar> Ok, thanks all!
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#1246 [15:09] <Jhwarby> Are fireworks meant to explode?
#1247 [15:09] <Jhwarby> Because they're not for me.
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#1250 [15:11] <Grim_Reaper> Jhwarby depends what you make them with I think
#1251 [15:11] <Grim_Reaper> try a fireball
#1252 [15:11] <kraftinator> Help.. I purchased the minecraft on one user name, How can my other son use minecraft or do i need to purchase it again.....help
#1253 [15:11] <Jhwarby> I just spawned them in tbh
#1254 [15:11] <Jhwarby> If he has a different username buy it again.
#1255 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> kraftinator: one username can log in from any computer at any time
#1256 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> kraftinator: if you want to play at the same time as your son, you will need a second account
#1257 [15:12] <Jhwarby> And a second computer
#1258 [15:12] <Jhwarby> ^^
#1259 [15:12] <Jhwarby> If that wasn't clear.
#1260 [15:12] <kraftinator> What is migrate?
#1261 [15:13] <Jhwarby> I think it's making a mojang account for your minecraft username, not sure tbh.,
#1262 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> https://account.mojang.com/migrate
#1263 [15:14] <Jhwarby> https://account.mojang.com/migrate
#1264 [15:14] <Jhwarby> Aww
#1265 [15:14] <Jhwarby> You beat me
#1266 [15:14] <kraftinator> Thank you for you help. :)
#1267 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#1268 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> that'll be $8
#1269 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1270 [15:14] <Jhwarby> Yw :P
#1271 [15:15] <Jhwarby> I'll take $5 and you can have $1
#1272 [15:15] <Jhwarby> $2 is going to GayPride.
#1273 [15:15] <Jhwarby> :D
#1274 [15:15] <Jhwarby> Father - son minecrafting.
#1275 [15:16] <Jhwarby> Who do you think dies first?
#1276 [15:16] <Jhwarby> I vote the ad.
#1277 [15:16] <Jhwarby> dad*
#1278 [15:17] <Jhwarby> How long do you think it's gonna be until bukkit gets a stable craftbukkit?
#1279 [15:17] <Jhwarby> -sigh Why won't my server use unstable builds? Oh why!?
#1280 [15:18] <Jhwarby> Well, they made a build 2hs ago.
#1281 [15:19] <Jhwarby> So it can't be that long; he's probably making one now.
#1282 [15:19] <Lutzee> bukkit builds have to be perfect before they class them as stable
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#1284 [15:20] <Jhwarby> How do they test if they're perfect?
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#1286 [15:23] <Jhwarby> What's the server for this channel?
#1287 [15:23] <cheese> Could someone please help me with this crash? http://pastebin.com/wbM0xR1J
#1288 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Jhwarby - irc.esper.net
#1289 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> #minecrafthelp
#1290 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> cheese - Force update through the launcher's options menu
#1291 [15:24] <Jhwarby> Does this serve rnot have a minecraft server?
#1292 [15:24] <cheese> Tried it
#1293 [15:24] <Jhwarby> server not*
#1294 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> esper.net hosts irc channels, but is not primarily for minecraft.
#1295 [15:25] <Jhwarby> Topic: "Minecraft client & server are 1.4.6"
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#1297 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Right.
#1298 [15:25] <Jhwarby> Is that the minecraft and server that we can talk about, or do they have a minecraft 1.4.6 server?
#1299 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> That's just the latest release version of minecraft
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#1301 [15:25] <Jhwarby> But they don't have a server?
#1302 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> This server, nor does this channel run an MC server
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#1304 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> cheese - Could you post the entire error report? There seems to be more to it
#1305 [15:28] <cheese> Actually, that was all of it, but in the latest one it just says "ion: null"
#1306 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. there should be more.
#1307 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> nullpointerexceptions are usually, nowadays, due to a corrupt file, either by download, or by modding
#1308 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Could you head to your .minecraft folder, then delete the /bin and /resources folders, then run the launcher
#1309 [15:30] <cheese> Will do
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#1311 [15:32] <cheese> Another crash, it seems, Ill try again...
#1312 [15:37] <cheese> Damn, sorry, Im an idiot, I accidently said there was nothing after the report but Notepad put the entire next things on one single line, stopping me from seeing it and therefore copying it.... Uhh... Heres the full new crash report: http://pastebin.com/r6pWrs8y
#1313 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/1.6
#1314 [15:43] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u38-downloads-1877409.html
#1315 [15:44] <cheese> Ok. downloading that now
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#1317 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> cheese: 1.7 has been known to have issues with MC, so we ofren try using 1.6
#1318 [15:45] <cheese> You asked me to delete the resources folder, but I do not think it was replaced when I started up Minecraft. Is this normal?
#1319 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> cheese: it'll be replaced when MC redownloads its native assets
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#1321 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> !topic >>> People are making apocalypse jokes like there's no tomorrow.
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#1324 [15:50] <cheese> Still doesnt work :( Might it be easier to just delete the entire .Minecraft folder and redownload it all from the site? What would I lose?
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#1327 [15:50] <Bob__> How do I get a giftcode.?
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#1329 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Bob__ - By buying one
#1330 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> cheese - If you save your /saves/ folder, nothing
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#1333 [15:52] <Bill> Whats the Christmas surprise for 1.4.6?
#1334 [15:52] <Grim_Reaper> Ask Santa
#1335 [15:52] <Grim_Reaper> He knows
#1336 [15:53] <Grim_Reaper> Ok well maybe not. But I didn't even know there was a surprise
#1337 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> the surprise is that there'll be a 22 December.
#1338 [15:53] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#1339 [15:53] <Santa> ho ho ho.
#1340 [15:53] <Grim_Reaper> \o/
#1341 [15:54] <Bill> Whats the Christmas surprise for 1.4.6??
#1342 [15:54] <Santa> well....
#1343 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> It's a surprise
#1344 [15:54] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
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#1346 [15:54] <Grim_Reaper> Very secret
#1347 [15:54] * Santa winks at grim
#1347 [15:54] <Grim_Reaper> can't tell
#1348 [15:54] <Grim_Reaper> Santa.. should I show em?
#1349 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> There's a christmas surprise?
#1350 [15:54] <Santa> lol
#1351 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1352 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> If one more person asks, it'll be that you can graft socks out of coal.
#1353 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> s/graft/craft/
#1354 [15:55] <cheese> You couldnt just google it could you..... No....... of course........ Anyway, Im going to delete my minecraft folder, see you in a couple hours when it inevitably does not work.
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#1356 [15:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> Grim_Reaper: lol at that irc log :p
#1357 [15:56] <Grim_Reaper> :p
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#1359 [15:57] <Santa> :3
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#1361 [15:58] * VoxelHead puts on his robe and wizard hat.
#1361 [15:58] <cheese> Sorry, I didnt get to thank you, you guys who help people are awesome. Minecraft now works and although you didnt really do much you're still doing God's work.
#1362 [15:58] <cheese> Thanks :D
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#1364 [15:58] <Selbram> god's work?
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#1366 [16:00] <DopeGhoti> damn, maybe I'll have to stop doing this.
#1367 [16:00] <Selbram> I know?!
#1368 [16:00] * benhunter09 is now known as benhunter09|wrapping-presents
#1369 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> but what does wrapping present?
#1370 [16:01] <SinZ> great timing on Voxelheads part imo
#1371 [16:01] <SinZ> putting on a wizard hat when someone says we are doing the work of god.
#1372 [16:02] * VoxelHead does what it can.
#1372 [16:04] <Selbram> well done wizard voxel, well done
#1373 [16:04] <VoxelHead> Yes we tin can!
#1374 [16:04] <tyteen4a03> VoxelHead, that was a bad pun
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#1376 [16:06] <VoxelHead> No such thing.
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#1381 [16:10] <Dead_Clap> Does anyone know why servers crash when you use fireworks
#1382 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> Because new features are buggy?
#1383 [16:10] <Santa> Minecraft has fireworks? :D
#1384 [16:10] <Dead_Clap> yea
#1385 [16:10] <Dead_Clap> 1.4.6
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#1388 [16:15] <tyteen4a03> Santa, thank you for your present
#1389 [16:16] <tyteen4a03> I hope it inflates
#1390 [16:16] <Santa> Only if you put it in water or another moist enviroment
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#1392 [16:17] * Nick is now known as Guest34644
#1393 [16:19] <Guest34644> Hello, my profile name or email address doesn't let me login to play the downloaded Minecraft game.
#1394 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> what happens when you try to log in?
#1395 [16:20] <Guest34644> 'login failed' message. I just created a minecraft profile name, I'm not sure that's what I need to login with
#1396 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> are you able to log in at https://account.mojang.com ?
#1397 [16:21] <Guest34644> Yep, I'm logged on right now!
#1398 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> okay
#1399 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> use the same credentials (email address and password) to log into Minecraft
#1400 [16:22] <Guest34644> Yea, failed. but I can login to the minecraft site with the same credentials!!!
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#1402 [16:22] <andrewpocius> Cant boot
#1403 [16:22] * Guest73635 is now known as healthyuncle_desk
#1404 [16:22] <andrewpocius> http://pastebin.com/EP8yTm9d
#1405 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> Guest34644: try once more after a force-update and be sure to erase and retype both the email and the password.
#1406 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> Guest34644 forceupdate
#1407 [16:23] <VoxelHead> Guest34644: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1408 [16:23] <VoxelHead> Guest34644: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1409 [16:23] <andrewpocius> u want me to do so?
#1410 [16:23] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#1411 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> andrewpocius: based on your crash log, you also ought to update as you are running an outdated version
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#1413 [16:24] <andrewpocius> k im forcig now woll post if i get an updated vrash messeage
#1414 [16:24] <Guest34644> Nice! It worked! Sweet, thanks a lot!!
#1415 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> Guest34644: excellent
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#1417 [16:25] <Guest34644> Strange it would be outdated, I bought it yesterday!
#1418 [16:25] <andrewpocius> http://pastebin.com/nyewB0wb
#1419 [16:25] <BOGO> anyone no how to revert 1.4.6 to 1.4.5
#1420 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> BOGO: we don't support old versions.
#1421 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> ??> BOGO oldversion
#1422 [16:25] <VoxelHead> BOGO: (oldversion) By now there are several ways to downgrade your version of Minecraft. Either use a tool like McNostalgia, use a backup of your own, or download the old Minecraft binaries provided by Mojang. See ?? oldversion/list for a list of available binaries.
#1423 [16:26] <andrewpocius> POsted the new boot error
#1424 [16:26] <andrewpocius> http://pastebin.com/nyewB0wb
#1425 [16:26] <Guest34644> where would I get the 'clayman1' and 'too many items'?
#1426 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> andrewpocius: please also pastebin the contents of: /Users/andrewpocius/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2012-12-20_17.54.39-client.txt
#1427 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> Guest34644: We don't support mods here
#1428 [16:27] <Guest34644> Ok take care and thanks again!
#1429 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> Guest34644: ciao
#1430 [16:27] <andrewpocius> http://pastebin.com/DsB65g4s
#1431 [16:27] <andrewpocius> there ya go
#1432 [16:27] <andrewpocius> there ya go
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#1434 [16:29] <andrewpocius> the boot erorr txt file is now posted http://pastebin.com/DsB65g4s
#1435 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> andrewpocius: hmm. It is possible that there is a problem with Java or your Mac's video drivers, but that would be very unusual. Could you check for any available software updates?
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#1437 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> (Apple menu -> Software Update)
#1438 [16:29] <Jhwarby> Woo!
#1439 [16:29] <Jhwarby> My server hosts are using the 1.4.6 dev build!
#1440 [16:29] <Jhwarby> :D
#1441 [16:30] <Jhwarby> Happy days!
#1442 [16:30] <Jhwarby> EvilSeph ftw!
#1443 [16:30] <Santa> k
#1444 [16:31] * Jhwarby , how they say, "boogies"?
#1444 [16:31] <Jhwarby> Oh, for fuck sake./
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#1447 [16:31] <Jhwarby> Oops
#1448 [16:32] <Jhwarby> Awkward swearing = no no here.
#1449 [16:32] <andrewpocius> what would e the prolems with the video drivers?
#1450 [16:32] <Jhwarby> Got it.
#1451 [16:32] * Iguana|Away is now known as Iguana
#1452 [16:33] <Jhwarby> The jarfile is corrupt.
#1453 [16:33] <Jhwarby> This is a horrible, horrible day!
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#1455 [16:34] <Jhwarby> So, the world's going to end on Friday. The bad news is, my friend wants his money no later than thursday. :(
#1456 [16:34] <andrewpocius> what could be wrong with the drivers?
#1457 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> people are making apocalypse jokes like there is no tomorrow.
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#1460 [16:35] <Jhwarby> Yeah, I just searched apocalypse jokes and there you go!
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#1462 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> andrewpocius: the crash log is indicating that Mincraft was not able to set the graphics mode it was trying to set up
#1463 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> andrewpocius: there is one thing you can try:
#1464 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> ??> andrewpocius mac/profile
#1465 [16:36] <VoxelHead> andrewpocius: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1466 [16:36] <VoxelHead> andrewpocius: (mac/profile) Please create a new system account (System Preferences => Accounts, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1467 [16:37] * zz_zack6849 is now known as zack6849
#1468 [16:38] <Jhwarby> McDonald's just announced that it's bringing back the McRib later this month. Or, as the Mayans put it, 'Hey, we tried to warn you.'
#1469 [16:38] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1470 [16:38] <Jhwarby> Who thinks that the world is actually going to end?
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#1472 [16:39] <Jhwarby> It's too soon... 1.4.7 is coming out on the 22nd!
#1473 [16:39] * benhunter09|wrapping-presents is now known as benhunter09
#1474 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> If they Mayans were still around today, they'd just be carrying a one tomorrow, and adding another ring on the outside of their circular calendars.
#1475 [16:40] <mattym> In survival do other mobs drop "heads" now or are wither skulls the only way to make a creeper firework
#1476 [16:40] <Jhwarby> Creeper Firework?
#1477 [16:40] <Grim_Reaper> [23:40] <@DopeGhoti> If they Mayans were still around today, they'd just be carrying a one tomorrow, and adding another ring on the outside of their circular calendars.
#1478 [16:40] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1479 [16:40] <Grim_Reaper> mattym theres a number of heads
#1480 [16:40] <Grim_Reaper> Human/zombie/skeleton/wither skeleton/creeper
#1481 [16:40] <mattym> yeah, but from what i remember they dont drop in survival
#1482 [16:40] <Jhwarby> Skeletons drop heads if that helps.
#1483 [16:40] <Grim_Reaper> They do drop in survival
#1484 [16:41] <Jhwarby> Skeletons drop heads in survival.
#1485 [16:41] <Jhwarby> I'm living proof.
#1486 [16:41] <Grim_Reaper> All of the heads drop in survival
#1487 [16:41] <mattym> that just updated today?
#1488 [16:41] <Grim_Reaper> It's just rare
#1489 [16:41] <Jhwarby> No, that's been for a while.
#1490 [16:41] <Jhwarby> mattym ^
#1491 [16:41] <mattym> since what update, do you know?
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#1493 [16:41] <Jhwarby> At least 1.4.3/4
#1494 [16:41] <Jhwarby> I don't really keep track.
#1495 [16:42] <Jhwarby> You can look at mcupdate.tumblr.com
#1496 [16:42] <Jhwarby> It'll say "Mobs drop heads"
#1497 [16:42] <mattym> hmmm, i fell like ive killed many mobs and never seen it
#1498 [16:42] <Jhwarby> 1.4.2
#1499 [16:42] <Jhwarby> It was 1.4.2
#1500 [16:43] <mattym> no, cant be 1.4.2 when i read up on 1.4.2 they said that only wither skeletons currently dropped them
#1501 [16:43] <Jhwarby> Minecraft 1.4.2
#1502 [16:43] <Jhwarby> The pretty scary update!
#1503 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> ?? changelog
#1504 [16:43] <Jhwarby> + Added mob heads that can be placed
#1505 [16:43] <VoxelHead> changelog: The changelog of the latest stable version can be found here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
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#1507 [16:44] <mattym> and the wiki still states that heads besides the wither can only be obtained in creative
#1508 [16:44] <Jhwarby> Someone needs to change that then.
#1509 [16:44] <mattym> Jhwarby Heads being placable doesnt mean they drop in survival
#1510 [16:44] <Jhwarby> I hate when people write about things they don't know stuff about.
#1511 [16:45] <Jhwarby> Well, use "MCNostalgia", play in singleplayer for a while and tell me if they drop heads.
#1512 [16:45] <Jhwarby> :)
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#1514 [16:45] <Jhwarby> ?? oldversion
#1515 [16:45] <VoxelHead> oldversion: By now there are several ways to downgrade your version of Minecraft. Either use a tool like McNostalgia, use a backup of your own, or download the old Minecraft binaries provided by Mojang. See ?? oldversion/list for a list of available binaries.
#1516 [16:46] <Jhwarby> ?? oldversion/list
#1517 [16:46] <VoxelHead> oldversion/list: A list of all Minecraft binary files which are hosted publicly by Mojang can be found here: https://pastebin.com/gwrQrQL9
#1518 [16:46] <andrewpocius2> still crashing in alt account
#1519 [16:46] <andrewpocius2> http://pastebin.com/F4KArP23
#1520 [16:46] <andrewpocius2> there is eror from screen
#1521 [16:47] <andrewpocius2> and here is the .txt file http://pastebin.com/ruL5KYpk
#1522 [16:49] <andrewpocius2> any ideas?
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#1524 [16:50] <mattym> is that happening when you start or at some point during gameplay
#1525 [16:50] <andrewpocius2> start
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#1528 [16:51] <JMEL2012> I accidently updated without checking whether the servers I use are also updated, is there a way to undo my update
#1529 [16:52] <mattym> download and use a program called McNostalgia
#1530 [16:52] <mattym> it will downgrade it for you
#1531 [16:52] <JMEL2012> thanks, will that cause any data harm?
#1532 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> it may snuff your kittens.
#1533 [16:52] <JMEL2012> dang it, I have cats
#1534 [16:52] <mattym> make backups of your saves just in case
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#1536 [16:53] <JMEL2012> oh well, that's a less painful way to go than zombies, right?
#1537 [16:53] <froglegstew> Hello people
#1538 [16:53] <andrewpocius2> so no oherideas?
#1539 [16:53] <froglegstew> I was woundering if you knew how to update minecraft servers
#1540 [16:53] <Jhwarby> Yep
#1541 [16:53] <Jhwarby> Thanks for coming, bye!
#1542 [16:53] <Jhwarby> :P
#1543 [16:54] <JMEL2012> what about ones that you dont own
#1544 [16:54] <mattym> andrewpocius2: it seems like some sort of Mac specific problem to do with graphics
#1545 [16:54] <froglegstew> i bought a server off of gameservers but i have no idea how to update it
#1546 [16:54] <mattym> do you haven any weird settings on your PC?
#1547 [16:54] <Jhwarby> Do you use craftbukkit?
#1548 [16:54] <froglegstew> Yes
#1549 [16:54] <andrewpocius2> not that i know of whant me to post system specs?
#1550 [16:54] <mattym> nah
#1551 [16:54] <Jhwarby> Then, either there's some kind of option there called Craftbukkit Dev Build 1.4.6,
#1552 [16:55] <Jhwarby> Which you have to click on and save then restart or something,
#1553 [16:55] <Jhwarby> Or you have to do it manually
#1554 [16:55] <andrewpocius2> can u break what is happening
#1555 [16:55] <Jhwarby> Go to bukkit.org
#1556 [16:55] <mattym> if your using craftbukkit i would wait a few days to update either way, give devs time to update plugins and whatnot
#1557 [16:56] <Jhwarby> If you want to update, just say so, but my advice is use normal minecraft without craftbukkit until everyone's got their heads around the update
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#1559 [16:57] <Jhwarby> Plugins updated, the build is actually safe + ready to use, etc.
#1560 [16:57] <andrewpocius2> im using on board graphics would that affect it?
#1561 [16:58] <mattym> no it shouldnt, have you changed anything with your system since the last time you played
#1562 [16:58] <JMEL2012> I can't get mcnostalgia to work
#1563 [16:59] <JMEL2012> I downloaded it, and tried to run the app
#1564 [16:59] <mattym> and then
#1565 [17:00] <JMEL2012> i was recommended it, just was hoping you could help, but never mind
#1566 [17:00] <mattym> did you read what the screen told you to do
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#1568 [17:01] <yup> so how am i supposed to update myserver?
#1569 [17:01] <JMEL2012> it gave me an error message about pythos not working
#1570 [17:01] <mattym> are you on a mac,pc, or linux?
#1571 [17:02] <Morrolan> yup - Grab a fresh copy of the server binaries.
#1572 [17:02] <yup> i'm sort of new to the server hosting game, how do i go about that? just redownload the server files from minecraft.net?
#1573 [17:02] <AG_Clinton> Yep
#1574 [17:02] <Morrolan> Yep. Replace the old minecraft_server.ajr with the new one.
#1575 [17:02] <Morrolan> Might want to back up your world first, just in case.
#1576 [17:02] <yup> ok
#1577 [17:02] <mattym> andrewpocius2: you may want to come back later and ask again, maybe someone else will recognize the issue
#1578 [17:03] <mattym> JMEL2012: did you follow the link to get to the 2.1.2 version of McNostalgia
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#1580 [17:04] <Jhwarby> Type /join #bukkit to see mbaxter's PEX rage :D
#1581 [17:04] <yup> thanks for the help, the redownload/ copy&paste worked
#1582 [17:04] <JMEL2012> pc
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#1584 [17:05] <mattym> JMEL2012: And like i said what version of McN are us using?
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#1586 [17:05] <JMEL2012> can u provide me the link again?
#1587 [17:05] <mattym> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-212-with-gui-now-works-with-146/
#1588 [17:06] <JMEL2012> yah, I used taht
#1589 [17:07] <mattym> have you moved the minecraft files from their default location in any way
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#1594 [17:07] <JMEL2012> no, i installed both MCN and MC on my Flashdrive
#1595 [17:08] <mattym> oh
#1596 [17:08] <mattym> well then thats probably your issue
#1597 [17:08] <JMEL2012> why?
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#1599 [17:08] <mattym> file paths
#1600 [17:08] <JMEL2012> oh joy
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#1602 [17:09] <mattym> if i had to guess, McN probably doesnt know how to resolve the files its needs to work when its on a thumbdrive
#1603 [17:09] <JMEL2012> my dad doesn't want me installing anything onto his computer, so I put stuff on my flashdrive
#1604 [17:09] <JMEL2012> do servers auto upgrade by any chance?
#1605 [17:10] <mattym> most dont
#1606 [17:10] <JMEL2012> crap, not good
#1607 [17:10] <mattym> do you play on a vanilla server?
#1608 [17:10] <JMEL2012> I'm on SickLand, a whitelist server
#1609 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> the white list is a vanilla feature, at least.
#1610 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> that said
#1611 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? recentupdate
#1612 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/recentupdate
#1613 [17:11] <VoxelHead> smp/recentupdate: A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#1614 [17:11] <VoxelHead> smp/recentupdate: #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
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#1618 [17:12] <froglegstew> is there any way we can update our server?
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#1620 [17:12] <mattym> if its a vanilla server the admins should have no reason not to update soonish
#1621 [17:12] <JMEL2012> I sent a message via youtube to one of the owners asking him if he can upgrade, but I don'tknow when he will se it
#1622 [17:12] <froglegstew> its from gameservers
#1623 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> froglegstew: if it's your server, just get the new server jarfile, and you're good to go
#1624 [17:12] <JMEL2012> is there any other way to downgrade minecraft?
#1625 [17:12] <froglegstew> how
#1626 [17:12] <froglegstew> were is this jar file
#1627 [17:12] <shorttbrandon> Having trouble when playing minecraft. Usually you click on the left mouse button to break a block now it keeps coming up unknown command
#1628 [17:13] <mattym> JMEL2012: not to an official release version, at least not legally
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#1630 [17:13] <Morrolan> shorttbrandon - It says "unknown command" in chat when you press your mouse button?
#1631 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> shorttbrandon: 'unknown command'?
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#1633 [17:13] <froglegstew> dopeghoti
#1634 [17:13] <shorttbrandon> yes
#1635 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> shorttbrandon: are you now or have you ever used any mods?
#1636 [17:13] <JMEL2012> ?? oldversion
#1637 [17:13] <VoxelHead> oldversion: By now there are several ways to downgrade your version of Minecraft. Either use a tool like McNostalgia, use a backup of your own, or download the old Minecraft binaries provided by Mojang. See ?? oldversion/list for a list of available binaries.
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#1639 [17:14] <JMEL2012> ?? oldversion/list
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#1641 [17:14] <VoxelHead> oldversion/list: A list of all Minecraft binary files which are hosted publicly by Mojang can be found here: https://pastebin.com/gwrQrQL9
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#1643 [17:14] <shorttbrandon> how do I go about downloading new version?
#1644 [17:14] <mikey> hi i need to know a good place to get mcpatcher?
#1645 [17:14] <froglegstew> were do i find this jar file
#1646 [17:14] <Morrolan> shorttbrandon - It'll ask you whether it should update when you log in.
#1647 [17:14] <Morrolan> If it doesn't ask, you're using the most recent version already. (Or you used offline mode)
#1648 [17:15] <shorttbrandon> thank you I will try it again.
#1649 [17:15] <Morrolan> froglegstew - minecraft.net/download, the same place where you got it the first time.
#1650 [17:15] <mattym> JMEL2012: That list wont have 1,4.5 in it, but from that list you should be able to figure out how to get it
#1651 [17:15] <Morrolan> froglegstew - If your server provider doesn't offer you FTP or SSH access, you'll have to wait for them to add it to their splendid webinterface, though.
#1652 [17:15] <mikey> does anyone know a good place to get an mcpatcher download?
#1653 [17:16] * andrewpocius2 [andrewpocius2@notlogged] has quit. (Quit: Web client closed)
#1654 [17:16] <Morrolan> mikey - Its thread would be a good start.
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#1656 [17:16] <mikey> and where do i find that?
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#1658 [17:17] <Morrolan> Did you try to type "MCPatcher" into Google already?
#1659 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> ?find mikey mcpatcher download
#1660 [17:17] <VoxelHead> mikey, http://is.gd/AwsCpw
#1661 [17:17] <Morrolan> Feeling generous today, DopeGhoti? :)
#1662 [17:17] <froglegstew> that jar file does jack to my server
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#1664 [17:17] <froglegstew> what if im not hosting it what if its being run by a website
#1665 [17:17] <froglegstew> Like
#1666 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: 'tis the season of giving
#1667 [17:17] <froglegstew> how do i update it
#1668 [17:17] <mikey> yes but i dont want to get a virus, my friend tried to download it and he got a trojan virus
#1669 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> mikey: that's why we don't support mods
#1670 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> mod at your own rish
#1671 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> also risk
#1672 [17:18] <Morrolan> froglegstew - Then, as I said, wait for your server hosting provider to add it to their webinterface.
#1673 [17:18] <Morrolan> mikey - I call BS.
#1674 [17:18] <mikey> and i'm telling you it's true
#1675 [17:18] <Morrolan> mikey - McPatcher is popular enough that I'd trust it.
#1676 [17:18] <froglegstew> Whats the best place to get a server fully updated and such
#1677 [17:19] <Morrolan> froglegstew - "Fully updated"?
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#1679 [17:19] <mattym> Morrolan: actually google puts minecraftdl as the first result for mcpatcher
#1680 [17:19] <Morrolan> mattym - Not for me, minecraftdl is second here.
#1681 [17:19] <shorttbrandon> When we try to break a block pressing the left mouse key on the bottom of the screen a backward slash comes up looking for you to type something in. Then it says unknown command try help for list of commands. This never happened before...HELP!!
#1682 [17:19] <Morrolan> mattym - No matter whether it's first or second though, I'd trust MCPatcher's forum thread more than some random website. :)
#1683 [17:20] <Guest98756> I'm trying to download the game but can't. Maybe I'm just stupid, but it isn't working
#1684 [17:20] <Morrolan> Guest98756 - Be a bit more specific please.
#1685 [17:20] <mattym> Morrolan: all im saying is that a default google search will point users to the wrong site
#1686 [17:20] <Morrolan> shorttbrandon - Err, start the launcher -> options -> force update, then log in as usual, check whether it still happens.
#1687 [17:21] <shorttbrandon> we just did that and it still happens we even created a new world
#1688 [17:21] <Morrolan> mattym - As I said, it doesn't for me. But it doesn't really matter. This is where common sense, and some obligatory knowledge of the WWW comes into play. :)
#1689 [17:21] <froglegstew> Yes. Where is it i can buy the best minecraft server? any good websites that keep it updated?!?!
#1690 [17:21] <mattym> and if he couldnt find the download on his own what makes you think he had that knowledge
#1691 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> ??> froglegstew smp/hosting
#1692 [17:21] <froglegstew> that way im not sitting there making support tickets trying to get them so i can use my website
#1693 [17:21] <VoxelHead> froglegstew: (smp/hosting) smp/hosting|Several regulars in this channel use and recommend AllGamer, LLC for Minecraft and VPS hosting services. A discount is available with coupon code "minecrafthelp". - https://allgamer.net/minecraft-hosting
#1694 [17:22] <Morrolan> mattym - If he can't find his way around the web, he shouldn't be using the web. Full stop.
#1695 [17:23] <Guest98756> After running minecraft.exe, it opens the login window. I login and it says not downloaded
#1696 [17:23] <Morrolan> mattym - But even if you disagree, neither you, nor we, can do anything about Google's page ranking. :P
#1697 [17:23] <Morrolan> Guest98756 - Did you buy the game?
#1698 [17:23] <Morrolan> shorttbrandon - Err, do you think you could create a screenshot, to show me how it looks like?
#1699 [17:23] <shorttbrandon> how do I do that?
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#1701 [17:23] <Guest98756> Yes, i bought the game. Will is not work because I'm trying to download it again on a different computer?
#1702 [17:24] <mattym> Morrolan: i agree, i was just saying that telling people to google stuff wont always get them where you would expect
#1703 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> Guest98756: you can download it on as many computers as you like
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#1705 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> Guest98756: it's possible something got broken in the initial downloaded.
#1706 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> ??> Guest98756 win/reinst
#1707 [17:24] <VoxelHead> Guest98756: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
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#1709 [17:24] <VoxelHead> Guest98756: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1710 [17:24] <Morrolan> mattym - That is true.
#1711 [17:25] <mattym> im sure that you and i will always get a mcforum page first when we search a related topic, someone who doesnt do this stuff often will get sent to some crap site
#1712 [17:25] <mattym> when i tested it i turned personal searches off, just to see where it was sending him
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#1714 [17:26] <andrewpocius> anyone know anyting about macs?
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#1716 [17:26] <shorttbrandon> MORROLAN....How do I go about getting a screen shot then sending it to you?
#1717 [17:27] <Morrolan> shorttbrandon - Depends on your operating system. Before I try and explain that though, start Minecraft -> Options -> Controls, and make sure that "Attack" is still mapped to "Button 1".
#1718 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> shorttbrandon: F2 will create a screen shot; you can upload it at a site like imgur.com
#1719 [17:27] <mattym> JMEL2012: Were you able to get it downgraded?
#1720 [17:28] <Morrolan> shorttbrandon - If it's mapped to "Chat" or something like that, that might explain what you've described. If not, well.
#1721 [17:28] <Guest98756> There's nothing in .minecraft
#1722 [17:28] <Morrolan> Guest98756 - Security software which might be blocking it?
#1723 [17:28] <mattym> dammit i was gonna say that
#1724 [17:28] <shorttbrandon> No it says button 1
#1725 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> ??> shorttbrandon win/profile
#1726 [17:29] <VoxelHead> shorttbrandon: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1727 [17:29] <VoxelHead> shorttbrandon: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1728 [17:31] <JMEL2012> sorry, parents called me outside to shovel
#1729 [17:31] <JMEL2012> i think it will work now
#1730 [17:31] <Guest98756> Okay, I'm stupid :/ After downoading minecraft.exe and running it, is it supposed to downoad the game files to .minecraft or must I do something else?
#1731 [17:32] <shorttbrandon> Do anyone know where the picture saves on a pc when you press F2, sorry
#1732 [17:32] <Morrolan> %appdata%\.minecraft\screenshots
#1733 [17:32] <JMEL2012> I think it worked
#1734 [17:32] <Morrolan> Assumign you're on WIndows, that is, shorttbrandon.
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#1736 [17:32] <mattym> JMEL2012: That list has a section for the 1.4.2 download all you need to do is change the 2 to a 5 in the web address and take that .jar and replace yours
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#1738 [17:33] <JMEL2012> yes the MCN worked thank you so much for your help, I didnt follow all the instructions properly
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#1740 [17:34] <mattym> how did i know that was the issue
#1741 [17:35] <Guest98756> The only thing that downoads is minecraft.exe, nothing else. It opens the launcher and says not downloaded after logging in
#1742 [17:35] <shorttbrandon> I just uploaded what I thought the picture to imgur.com but have no idea where it is too on that site
#1743 [17:36] <Morrolan> Guest98756 - When you are logging in with your e-mail address and password, do you ever select "Play Offline", or does it go straight to "Not downloaded"?
#1744 [17:36] <mattym> shorttbrandon: imgur should have given you a link to it
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#1746 [17:37] <Guest98756> It says login failed and (not downloaded) underneath play offline
#1747 [17:37] <Morrolan> Guest98756 - Okay. Are you running any security software?
#1748 [17:37] <Morrolan> Guest98756 - Oh, wait, login failed you say?
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#1750 [17:37] <shorttbrandon> hahaha,,,,HELP!!! give me a minute! I am a mother of an 8 year old who is wanting to play this...totally computer illiterate when it comes to minecraft
#1751 [17:37] <Morrolan> Guest98756 - Are you using your e-mail address, or your username?
#1752 [17:37] <Guest98756> Username
#1753 [17:38] <Morrolan> Guest98756 - When did you create that account?
#1754 [17:38] <Guest98756> Not sure of the exact date, but several months ago
#1755 [17:39] <Guest98756> Is the game not downloading because I'm trying to login with the user name instead of email address?
#1756 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> Guest98756: that could quite well be
#1757 [17:39] <shorttbrandon> http://imgur.com/lDOiq
#1758 [17:39] <shorttbrandon> check out the bakward slash in the bottom left hand corner
#1759 [17:39] <shorttbrandon> backward
#1760 [17:40] <Guest98756> Nope. Just says login failed because it isn't downloaded
#1761 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> actually, that's a forward slash
#1762 [17:40] <mattym> that slash is the command entry key
#1763 [17:40] <Morrolan> shorttbrandon - Oh, nice. And here I was trying to remember how imgur behaved to guest users.
#1764 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> Guest98756: you have it backwards: it won't even try to download until you've logged in
#1765 [17:40] <mattym> that should not be being pressed
#1766 [17:40] <Morrolan> shorttbrandon - If left-clicking opens the chat console, then something is rather, uh, odd.
#1767 [17:40] <shorttbrandon> I think I have it figured out there now
#1768 [17:40] <Morrolan> Yea, you did.
#1769 [17:41] <Morrolan> You said you already tried a "Force update" in the launcher?
#1770 [17:41] <shorttbrandon> Yeah it does....And yes I did
#1771 [17:41] <mattym> shorttbrandon: is there any chance the / key on your keyboard is stuck?
#1772 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> shorttbrandon: try this:
#1773 [17:41] <shorttbrandon> No it doesnt seem to be stuck
#1774 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> close down Minecraft, and go back into the .minecraft directory, and delete options.txt
#1775 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> then open Minecraft again
#1776 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> and see what happens
#1777 [17:42] <mattym> if what DopeGhoti said doesnt work then there is something off with your computer outside of minecraft
#1778 [17:42] <Guest98756> I logged into minecraft.net and downloaded the minecraft.exe file. Ran the file, brought up the launcher, says login failed because it isn't downoaded. Tried force update too, but nothing. What am I doing wrong?
#1779 [17:43] <Morrolan> Guest98756 - Trying to log in with the e-mail address didn't help either?
#1780 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> Guest98756: you have to log in, in minecraft itself
#1781 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> "login failed because it isn't downloaded" makes absolutely no sense
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#1783 [17:43] <Guest98756> It says that in the launcher
#1784 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> because the downloading happens _after_ the login is completed.
#1785 [17:43] <shorttbrandon> Well this is our old laptop I have kids play with....could very well be however works on everything else.
#1786 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> shorttbrandon: did you try setting up a new profile yet?
#1787 [17:44] <shorttbrandon> I dont understand how to go into .minecraft directory and delete options
#1788 [17:44] <shorttbrandon> No I can do that though how do I go about doing that? Thank You so much for all your help!
#1789 [17:44] <tyteen4a03> shorttbrandon, Windows I presume?
#1790 [17:44] <shorttbrandon> 33 years old and cant play a computer game :-S
#1791 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> first, the options
#1792 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> shorttbrandon win/.minecraft
#1793 [17:44] <VoxelHead> shorttbrandon: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1794 [17:44] <shorttbrandon> Yes Windows
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#1796 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> shorttbrandon: once you have that open, you'll see a file called 'options'
#1797 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> delete it
#1798 [17:45] <tyteen4a03> ok since DopeGhoti and Morrolan know better at your case, I'm just going to hide in the corner
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#1803 [17:47] <Guest98756> Okay, it's downoading now. holy carp i'm stupid...
#1804 [17:47] <mindcat> where can i ask "mods" help
#1805 [17:47] <mattym> what type of mod
#1806 [17:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? mods
#1807 [17:47] <mindcat> minecraft mods
#1808 [17:47] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1809 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> Guest98756: glad you're up and running
#1810 [17:47] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1811 [17:47] <tyteen4a03> first time I read DopeGhoti's message, I felt like Guest98756 has just been born
#1812 [17:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> mattym: we dont do any kind of mod help here
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#1814 [17:47] * tyteen4a03 is the king of bad jokes
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#1815 [17:47] <shorttbrandon> OK, Options is deleted
#1816 [17:48] <Guest98756> Thanks for putting up with me ^_^
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#1818 [17:48] <mindcat> i know, so where channel can help me?
#1819 [17:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> mindcat: did you read what i just put
#1820 [17:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> #bukkit or google
#1821 [17:48] <mattym> apparently i cant even tell you that
#1822 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> shorttbrandon: okay, now that options is gone, try MC again
#1823 [17:48] <shorttbrandon> OK, BRB
#1824 [17:48] <mindcat> no, i did not mean bukkit...
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#1826 [17:49] <mindcat> google it seem too slow
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#1829 [17:49] <shorttbrandon> SUCCESS!!!!!
#1830 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> shorttbrandon: excellent!
#1831 [17:49] <shorttbrandon> Thank You guys/girls SO much!!
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#1833 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> pleased to have been of service, ma'am.
#1834 [17:50] <tyteen4a03> shorttbrandon, mostly guys
#1835 [17:50] <shorttbrandon> Now I am a 33 year old mother who understands a problem with minecraft!! :) Thanks
#1836 [17:50] <tyteen4a03> no problem
#1837 [17:50] <shorttbrandon> My little fella is pretty excited so thank you from both of us.
#1838 [17:50] <shorttbrandon> Merry Christmas
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#1841 [17:50] <tyteen4a03> shorttbrandon, and a happy new year
#1842 [17:51] <shorttbrandon> U2, Thank You
#1843 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> shorttbrandon: spiffy solstice to you as well
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#1845 [17:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> shorttbrandon: merry christmas to you too
#1846 [17:51] <shorttbrandon> thanks....night!
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#1849 [17:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> o/
#1850 [17:51] <AmazingChild> Hi, my name's amazingchild. My game is going weird, for some reason i can't make fireworks!
#1851 [17:52] <AmazingChild> Anyone know what to do?
#1852 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> AmazingChild: what happens when you try?
#1853 [17:52] <AmazingChild> i put the ingredients in the crafting table and nothing happens. I can't even dye them, and i can only find Firework Stars in the Creative inventory
#1854 [17:53] <AmazingChild> I've been disconnecting/reconnecting for the last 5 minutes
#1855 [17:53] <mattym> AmazingChild: Are you using the default texture pack?
#1856 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> AmazingChild: it's possible that Creative was not fully updated for fireworks
#1857 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> I have not had a chance to test them yet, personally
#1858 [17:53] <AmazingChild> i am using default
#1859 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> have you tried switching to Survival?
#1860 [17:53] <AmazingChild> yup
#1861 [17:54] <AmazingChild> it hasn't worked
#1862 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#1863 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> AmazingChild forceupdate
#1864 [17:54] <VoxelHead> AmazingChild: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1865 [17:54] <VoxelHead> AmazingChild: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1866 [17:54] <AmazingChild> Will i need to backup my stuff for the forceupdate?
#1867 [17:54] <mattym> DopeGhoti: The firework rocket itslef if purposely left out of creative because it has no "default" setup, i dont think the devs ever plan on adding it there
#1868 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> AmazingChild: you should be okay
#1869 [17:55] <AmazingChild> alright, i'm just worried cause i have some really cool builds
#1870 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> mattym: if true, that explains why default rockets crash servers.
#1871 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> AmazingChild: forceupdate will not delete your worlds (:
#1872 [17:55] <AmazingChild> i'll try the forceupdate, see what happens
#1873 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> that said, it never hurts to have backups
#1874 [17:55] <mattym> DopeGhoti: I read it somehwere back when they first introduced them
#1875 [17:56] <AmazingChild> okay i pressed it, now what?
#1876 [17:56] <tyteen4a03> mattym, if you can find the source it would be great
#1877 [17:56] <tyteen4a03> so we have something to point people to
#1878 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> AmazingChild: now try seeing whether the problem persists.
#1879 [17:56] <AmazingChild> alrighty
#1880 [17:57] <mattym> tyteen4a03: im looking
#1881 [17:57] <AmazingChild> Nope. No fireworks.
#1882 [17:57] <AmazingChild> What now?
#1883 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> AmazingChild: are you certain you've not used any texture packs or anything?
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#1885 [17:58] <AmazingChild> no mods, no texture packs.
#1886 [17:59] <AmazingChild> I like default
#1887 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> (as do I)
#1888 [17:59] <mattym> tyteen4a03: The wiki page on the week 50 update mentions that the firework rocket was removed in crative inventory,
#1889 [17:59] <AmazingChild> i'll see
#1890 [18:00] <AmazingChild> it says nothing about that
#1891 [18:00] <mattym> that message was for tyteen4a03
#1892 [18:01] <tyteen4a03> mattym, yes, I got it
#1893 [18:01] <AmazingChild> What do I do since it doesn't work?
#1894 [18:02] <mattym> AmazingChild: Im using 1.4.6 and had no issues, are you able to make the firework star, or just can craf the rocket?
#1895 [18:02] <mattym> cant craft*
#1896 [18:02] <AmazingChild> I can't dye the firework star, and i can't make anything to do with rockets
#1897 [18:03] <mattym> did you try making a dyed star from scratch, not using creative items?
#1898 [18:03] <tyteen4a03> ??+ creative/fireworks|Fireworks do not exist in Creative Mode. It was removed in 12w50a and you will not see it in the inventory. This is not a bug.
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#1900 [18:03] <AmazingChild> i still can't craft them
#1901 [18:03] <mattym> tyteen4a03: Woohoo, i helped!
#1902 [18:03] <AmazingChild> even in survival
#1903 [18:04] <mattym> thats really weird
#1904 [18:04] <AmazingChild> none of my friends have this bug
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#1907 [18:05] <mattym> single or multiplayer
#1908 [18:05] <AmazingChild> single
#1909 [18:05] <AmazingChild> my server hasn't updated
#1910 [18:05] <mattym> yeah thats where i tested it too
#1911 [18:06] <mattym> and you already tried a forced update
#1912 [18:06] <AmazingChild> yes
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#1914 [18:07] <mattym> and just to be clear can you craft a firework start, using gunpowder and a dye
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#1916 [18:08] <AmazingChild> ik
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#1918 [18:08] <brenn932> i updated minecraft this morning and now my favorite servers are outdated
#1919 [18:08] <AmazingChild> same here
#1920 [18:08] <tyteen4a03> uh
#1921 [18:08] <brenn932> how do i get it back
#1922 [18:08] <tyteen4a03> accident
#1923 [18:08] <tyteen4a03> ??> brenn932 oldversions
#1924 [18:09] <brenn932> what
#1925 [18:09] <mattym> he messed up give him a second to fix it
#1926 [18:09] <tyteen4a03> uh, just take http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_5/minecraft.jar
#1927 [18:09] <tyteen4a03> figured MCNostalgia probably hasn't been updated for 1.4.6 yet
#1928 [18:10] <mattym> it has actually
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#1930 [18:10] <mattym> or rather it still just works
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#1932 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> !topic undo
#1933 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> that's how
#1934 [18:11] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti, that was the original topic
#1935 [18:11] <tyteen4a03> or not
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#1937 [18:11] <AmazingChild> or you can go to your minecraft jar and downgrade the old fashioned way
#1938 [18:11] <tyteen4a03> AmazingChild, not if they don't have a backup, no
#1939 [18:12] <AmazingChild> true
#1940 [18:13] <tyteen4a03> ??< oldversion
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#1942 [18:13] <brenn932> what do i do with that
#1943 [18:14] <tyteen4a03> brenn932, download it and replace the minecraft.jar in the .minecraft/bin folder with that
#1944 [18:14] <mattym> do you know where your .minecraft folder is?
#1945 [18:14] <Night_Owl> I was attempting to download the server.jar for my minecraft server, and I was unable to downlaod anything off of minecraft.net that had a file extension. Is this a problem with the site, or with my computer?
#1946 [18:14] <brenn932> i am not allwowed to download stuff
#1947 [18:14] <tyteen4a03> Night_Owl, probably your computer
#1948 [18:14] <tyteen4a03> brenn932, then we cannot help you
#1949 [18:14] <Night_Owl> Any idea what it might be?
#1950 [18:14] <mattym> then brenn932 you will have to wait
#1951 [18:15] <mattym> Night_Owl: probably your pc
#1952 [18:15] <tyteen4a03> Night_Owl, most possible cause is antivirus and browser
#1953 [18:15] <tyteen4a03> mattym, he was looking for something more specific
#1954 [18:15] <AmazingChild> Well, i guess since my topic has gone, it means i can't fix the bug?
#1955 [18:15] <Night_Owl> I'm running a Vista, with Kaspersky. Could it be malware damage?
#1956 [18:15] <tyteen4a03> AmazingChild, you can try a new world, just a thought
#1957 [18:15] <AmazingChild> I'm running a Windows 7 with Kapersky
#1958 [18:16] <AmazingChild> it's not Kapersky
#1959 [18:16] <tyteen4a03> Night_Owl, probably not, but I'd disable Kaspersky temporaily to make sure it's not the cause
#1960 [18:16] <Night_Owl> I'll try... Stand by
#1961 [18:16] <tyteen4a03> also if the file is just missing the extension (the content is still downloaded), it means you didn't turn extension viewing on
#1962 [18:17] <mattym> AmazingChild: I really cant see how its even getting that bug, unless somehow your minecraft is trying to update to a bad file
#1963 [18:17] <tyteen4a03> mattym, it wouldn't pass the md5 check if it was corrupt
#1964 [18:18] <AmazingChild> spawning a new world did not work
#1965 [18:18] <Night_Owl> Kaspersky isn't blocking it. I disabled and attempted to download, once again, it just says Minecraft_Server_jar instead of minecraft_server.jar
#1966 [18:18] <tyteen4a03> Night_Owl, oh
#1967 [18:18] <tyteen4a03> Night_Owl, simply rename it to minecraft_server.jar
#1968 [18:18] <Night_Owl> turn on extension viewing?
#1969 [18:19] <mattym> are you following the recipie on the wiki?
#1970 [18:19] <Night_Owl> i've tried that, i'll try it again.
#1971 [18:19] <tyteen4a03> Night_Owl, if you see .doc, .txt, .yml, these are extensions
#1972 [18:19] <AmazingChild> i told you it wasn't kapersky
#1973 [18:19] <tyteen4a03> AmazingChild, better be sure
#1974 [18:19] <tyteen4a03> windows is a magical place where you can break everything unintentionally
#1975 [18:20] <AmazingChild> AFK
#1976 [18:20] <Night_Owl> Before I delete it, the file is now known as Minecraft_Server.exe.51gmp4q, if that means anything...
#1977 [18:20] <Night_Owl> Yes, I was attempting to downlaod the exe the last time
#1978 [18:21] <tyteen4a03> Night_Owl, are you using Chrome?
#1979 [18:21] <mattym> ive never seen one copy of minecraft that refuses to let a user craft something
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#1981 [18:21] <tyteen4a03> try crafting other things to see if it's just firework stars
#1982 [18:21] <Night_Owl> I'm using internet explorer, gimme a second to check the version
#1983 [18:21] <brenn932> does anything else work
#1984 [18:21] <tyteen4a03> Night_Owl, switch to chrome
#1985 [18:22] <Night_Owl> I think I have chrome installed, I'll give it a go
#1986 [18:23] <tyteen4a03> time for me to go to school, DopeGhoti will take over (regardless of his willingness)
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#1990 [18:29] <Night_Owl> this may sound like a dumb question, but how do I enable file extensions?
#1991 [18:30] <oldtopman> Night_Owl: Windows 8?
#1992 [18:30] <Night_Owl> windows vista
#1993 [18:31] <oldtopman> Night_Owl: http://hastebin.com/koyeferagu.sql
#1994 [18:31] <tyteen4a03> oldtopman, sql?
#1995 [18:32] <oldtopman> tyteen4a03: What's up?
#1996 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: hastebin has an odd extension detection algorithm
#1997 [18:33] <oldtopman> It just picks it's best attempt at highlighting and goes with it.
#1998 [18:34] <Night_Owl> well that wasn't it.
#1999 [18:34] <oldtopman> Night_Owl: Might want to follow the official windows instructions then.
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#2001 [18:34] <oldtopman> Night_Owl: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/865219
#2002 [18:35] <Night_Owl> no, that's not what I mean
#2003 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> !topic /6/creative/cmp/
#2004 [18:36] <Corin> Why are we constantly changing topics? ._.
#2005 [18:36] <Corin> It's rather irritating
#2006 [18:36] <Night_Owl> I mean when I go to downlaod a file on Minecraft.net for instance: Minecraft_server.exe comes out as Minecraft_Server_Exe and it won't download that.
#2007 [18:37] <DiskDaemon> That's with Internet Explorer, right?
#2008 [18:37] <Night_Owl> yes
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#2010 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> There's a security setting that relates to that - I'll see if I can find info on it
#2011 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> Corin: because someone is bad at categorizing FAQs.
#2012 [18:39] <Corin> ._.
#2013 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> ??> Night_Owl win/ie
#2014 [18:39] <VoxelHead> Night_Owl: (win/ie) Internet Exploder^WExploiter^WExplorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#2015 [18:39] <VoxelHead> Night_Owl: (win/ie) Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome
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#2017 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> Microsoft seems to have an article relating to this issue - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/952730
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#2019 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> No, that Microsoft page is about spaces in the filename being turned in to underscores - this issue being experienced is the dot separating the extension instead
#2020 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> Here's the Microsoft help page that solves the dot to undercore issue - turn off the setting about saving from encrypted pages http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2549423
#2021 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> or just use a browser that's not awful (:
#2022 [18:43] <Corin> IE 10 is good
#2023 [18:43] <Corin> js
#2024 [18:44] * mattym is now known as mattym|away
#2025 [18:44] <DiskDaemon> It seems to be less appropriate to tell someone to change everything about their browser, than to have them adjust their settings so that they can carry on as they're used to
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#2028 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> can we add a voxelhead faq entry for ie/_ or some other term that provides a link to the known solution at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2549423
#2029 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> ??+ win/ie/underscores|If IE keeps changing file extension delimeters to underscores on you, here is some relevant reading: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2549423
#2030 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> will that do?
#2031 [18:53] <DiskDaemon> Thanks for that
#2032 [18:53] <Night_Owl> I'm back, nothing's worked that the other tech support has told me.
#2033 [18:53] <Morrolan> s/support/slave
#2034 [18:54] <DiskDaemon> Night_Owl: You are having a problem where Internet Explorer says that it can't download filename_exe for you, with the udnerscore instead of a full stop?
#2035 [18:54] <Night_Owl> ya
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#2037 [18:54] <DiskDaemon> Night_Owl: That problem is solved by applying the solution from Microsoft's following article
#2038 [18:55] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/ie/underscores
#2039 [18:55] <VoxelHead> win/ie/underscores: If IE keeps changing file extension delimeters to underscores on you, here is some relevant reading: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2549423
#2040 [18:55] <johndillick> hello, trying to find out where to submit linux client crash report
#2041 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> johndillick: please put the report on Pastebin and give us the URL
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#2045 [18:57] <johndillick> http://pastebin.com/7hM3DeYM
#2046 [18:57] <johndillick> DopeGhoti: ^
#2047 [18:57] <jeffs> on pocket version on my samsung galaxy tab, there is no crafting button on the select blocks screen -- has anyone else seen this behaviour?
#2048 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> johndillick: what GPU and drivers are you using?
#2049 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> jeffs: last time I checked, MCPE didn't have crafting
#2050 [19:00] <johndillick> Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Barts PRO [ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series] with proprietary AMD Catalyst package
#2051 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#2052 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> Other than the usual grumbling about AMD GPU drivers, I do see that you're using an old release of Java 1.6
#2053 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/1.6
#2054 [19:01] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2055 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> try getting a newer release there, maybe?
#2056 [19:01] <Night_Owl> got it, now to downlaod the server jar file
#2057 [19:02] <Night_Owl> IT WORKS
#2058 [19:02] <Night_Owl> Thank you!
#2059 [19:03] <jeffs> it looks like MCPE was suppose to add crafting starting 0.3.0 -- unclear if it is only on the IOS or on android
#2060 [19:03] <johndillick> DopeGhoti: Ok, so try grab latest java 1.6?
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#2062 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> johndillick: that'd be my first step, yes
#2063 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> jeffs: let me see if I still have MCPE on my phone
#2064 [19:04] <jeffs> theory is there is a craft button in the upper left of the select block screen
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#2066 [19:06] <divadsten1> Minecraft maps took over all of my exe functions with LNK endings - does anyone know why?
#2067 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> jeffs: seems to be working notmally for me.
#2068 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> jeffs: er, normally
#2069 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> divadsten1: don't know why, but here's a fix: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/172053
#2070 [19:08] <jeffs> my tablet is about a year old and is not upgrading to ICS -- the font on the application seems large so I am thinking the button might be off the screen
#2071 [19:08] <divadsten1> that's great to know thanks!
#2072 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> jeffs: hmm, that could be it; my phone is running ICS. it's a bit extreme, but have you tried a Cyanogen build?
#2073 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> I don't have a gingerbread device handy upon which to test your hypothesis
#2074 [19:10] <jeffs> I did and all worked perfectly except the modem would disconnect every few hours -- had to punt back to the stock ROM -- did not try minecraft PE when I was in the cyanogenmod ROM
#2075 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> jeffs: try turning off fancy graphics?
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#2077 [19:12] <jeffs> off -- no change
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#2079 [19:13] <roosa> Hello, I am having 2 problems with my personal minecraft server. Local players cannot join. I have had people from other states in the USA join but people on the same wifi as me cannot. Is there a way to rectify this?
#2080 [19:14] <johndillick> DopeGhoti: no dice, more or less identical crash report with jre1.6.0_38
#2081 [19:14] <johndillick> Any ideas?
#2082 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> johndillick: any mods, texture packs, anything of that nature?
#2083 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> jeffs: sorry, I"m out of ideas ):
#2084 [19:15] <johndillick> nah, stock download
#2085 [19:15] <johndillick> Gonna try Ubuntu driver
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#2087 [19:15] <johndillick> see if it likes that more
#2088 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> johndillick: try clearing out ~/.minecraft and having the launcher redownlaod the natives?
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#2090 [19:16] <johndillick> ok
#2091 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> also, the stock driver may work; it's worth a shot
#2092 [19:16] <johndillick> I'll try both
#2093 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> good luck
#2094 [19:16] <johndillick> thanks
#2095 [19:17] <roosa> My other problem is that a chunk in my server won't be updated. Destroying and placing blocks for some reason doesn't work. Any way to help this problem?
#2096 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> roosa: is that area near the spawn point?
#2097 [19:17] <roosa> yes
#2098 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> ??> roosa smp/spawnzone
#2099 [19:18] <VoxelHead> roosa: (smp/spawnzone) The spawn zone is, as a way to avoid griefing, protected from any changes by any users who are not administrators. Try moving away from the spawn area.
#2100 [19:18] <VoxelHead> roosa: (smp/spawnzone) If you are the server admin, see smp/opyourself
#2101 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> ??> roosa smp/opyourself
#2102 [19:18] <VoxelHead> roosa: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#2103 [19:18] <VoxelHead> roosa: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
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#2105 [19:18] <roosa> but all the other areas nearby work fine..
#2106 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> the protected spawn zone is roughtly a 35 meter square
#2107 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> only server ops are allowed to make any changes in that area
#2108 [19:19] <roosa> gotcha. theres no way to turn that spawn protection off?
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#2110 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> not that I know of (mods notwithstanding)
#2111 [19:20] <roosa> Ok, thanks. Does anyone know if you can play on a server with local players?
#2112 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> you should be able to
#2113 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> however, depending on your router, they might have to use a different address to connect to your server
#2114 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> for best results, have other folks on your LAN use your internal IP address
#2115 [19:22] <roosa> I go to google and type 'what is my ip address?' and that is what other users have successfully typed in but it doesn't seem to work for locals
#2116 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> some routers don't work with a connection from inside back to a server on the inside
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#2118 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> you should have the folks in the same LAN use the internal IP
#2119 [19:22] <roosa> it's a 2wire at&t router
#2120 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> 2Wire routers definitely don't support out-and-in connections
#2121 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> (I used to do tech support for SBC/AT&T)
#2122 [19:23] <oldtopman> out-and-in == port forwarding?
#2123 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: out-and-in is trying to use a forwarded port from _inside_ the LAN
#2124 [19:23] <roosa> So with the 2wire it won't work even with the internal IP?
#2125 [19:23] <oldtopman> Ah.
#2126 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> roosa: with a 2Wire, you _have_ to use the internal; not external; IP address, from inside the LAN
#2127 [19:23] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: Well tack on the Quest routers onto your list there.
#2128 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: Quest uses 2Wire routers, just rebranded (:
#2129 [19:24] <oldtopman> Actiontec is 2wire?
#2130 [19:24] <roosa> Gotcha. I kinda learned that before and found out I had to type ifconfig in my Mac's terminal
#2131 [19:24] <roosa> do you know how to figure it out from there?
#2132 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> roosa: it's actually easier than that
#2133 [19:24] <roosa> Oh
#2134 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> roosa: go to System Preferences -> Network
#2135 [19:25] <roosa> yes
#2136 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> select the interface (probably Ethernet), and your IP will be right in the middle of the screen
#2137 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> or are you using Airport?
#2138 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> if so, the IP is a little above the center
#2139 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> right under 'Status: Connected"
#2140 [19:26] <roosa> yeah actually
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#2142 [19:27] <roosa> My brother is trying to join right now. It's polling. Thanks for everything so far
#2143 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> my pleasure
#2144 [19:28] <roosa> It's working! Thanks so much!
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#2146 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> roosa: glad you're up and running!
#2147 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> that'll be $8
#2148 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> (:
#2149 [19:30] <roosa> I'm out now guys, but it was awesome. Thanks again.
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#2155 [19:37] <brenn932> how to make a server
#2156 [19:38] <brenn932> hello
#2157 [19:38] <brenn932> how do you make a server
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#2159 [19:38] <SirCmpwn> so within the past couple of versions, I've started to get severe lag after a few minutes of gameplay
#2160 [19:38] <mattym|away> can you be more specific
#2161 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> ??> brenn932 smp/serversetup
#2162 [19:38] <VoxelHead> brenn932: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#2163 [19:38] <SirCmpwn> it has plenty of memory, it will just go from 200+ to 0 FPS with no warning
#2164 [19:38] <VoxelHead> brenn932: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2165 [19:38] * mattym|away is now known as mattym
#2166 [19:39] <brenn932> how do you build a survival server
#2167 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> brenn932: read the link Vox just brought to your attention.
#2168 [19:40] <mattym> SirCmpwn: Do you by any chance have a large chicken farm?
#2169 [19:40] <SirCmpwn> nope.
#2170 [19:40] <mattym> What version did you fist notice this on?
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#2172 [19:40] <SirCmpwn> not sure.
#2173 [19:40] <SirCmpwn> recently.
#2174 [19:40] <SirCmpwn> 1.4.x
#2175 [19:40] <mattym> ok
#2176 [19:42] <SirCmpwn> it was using my 32-bit java install, I'm switching to 64 bit to see it if helps
#2177 [19:43] <mattym> I only get those major fps drops when im using the Far setting in video options, so test if with 64-bit java, and also if you use far test it with a lower setting
#2178 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> also: any mods?
#2179 [19:46] <SirCmpwn> no.
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#2182 [19:48] <mattym> Are you by any chance in a jungle biome?
#2183 [19:49] <SirCmpwn> nope.
#2184 [19:49] <SirCmpwn> looks like 64-bit fixed it, though
#2185 [19:49] <SirCmpwn> didn't realize I was using the 32-bit java install, I must have done something recently to change it
#2186 [19:49] <mattym> test it by running far enough that it forces minecraft to create new chunks
#2187 [19:50] <SirCmpwn> yeah, it's all good.
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#2193 [20:11] <brenn932> how do you get people to join your server if it is in progress
#2194 [20:11] <mattym> give them the address
#2195 [20:11] <brenn932> how do get the address
#2196 [20:12] <SirCmpwn> http://google.com/search?q=what+is+my+ip
#2197 [20:12] <mattym> im not saying this to be mean, but if you dont know that you really shouldnt be running a server
#2198 [20:12] <SirCmpwn> he's right, you know
#2199 [20:13] <brenn932> what is an ip address
#2200 [20:14] <SirCmpwn> it's what you give to your friends, and they put it in the direct connection screen
#2201 [20:14] <Morrolan> A way of identifiying (a bunch of) computer(s).
#2202 [20:15] <Morrolan> (Or a fridge with tweeting capabilities)
#2203 [20:16] <mattym> what has this world come to
#2204 [20:16] <brenn932> so i know what my ip is whats next
#2205 [20:17] <Morrolan> Ask Samsung, mattym, they thought we'd need a multimedia-capable, tweeting refridgerator. :P
#2206 [20:17] <Morrolan> brenn932 - Provide your friend with your IP, and he'll be able to use that one to connect.
#2207 [20:17] <Morrolan> Provided you did the necessary port-forwarding.
#2208 [20:17] <brenn932> can you help and connect
#2209 [20:18] <Morrolan> There's a bot in here, try !check <ip>.
#2210 [20:18] <Morrolan> !check 76.23.21.191
#2211 [20:18] <brenn932> !check ip
#2212 [20:18] <Morrolan> If you're hosting it on the same network you're IRCing from, then you did something wrong.
#2213 [20:18] <mattym> replace ip with your ip
#2214 [20:19] <mattym> Morrolan: was that his?
#2215 [20:19] <brenn932> !check 76.23.21.191
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#2218 [20:20] <Morrolan> mattym - Yap.
#2219 [20:20] <brenn932> yes im sure
#2220 [20:20] <Pbpredator> How do I upgrade my minecraft server tot he newest version in linux?
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#2222 [20:20] <oldtopman> Pbpredator: Replace minecraft_server.jar with a fresh one from minecraft.net/download
#2223 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> Pbpredator: replace the jar file
#2224 [20:20] <brenn932> there should be something that said update now
#2225 [20:21] <mattym> brenn932: Did you port forward?
#2226 [20:21] <brenn932> do you guys know any good servers
#2227 [20:22] <brenn932> do you
#2228 [20:22] <mattym> depends on your definition of "good"
#2229 [20:23] <brenn932> just any server any server is good
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#2231 [20:24] <brenn932> hello
#2232 [20:24] <brenn932> does anyone
#2233 [20:25] <mattym> http://servers.minecraftforum.net/servers
#2234 [20:26] <brenn932> no i dont know any servers
#2235 [20:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? smp/servers
#2236 [20:28] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2237 [20:28] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#2238 [20:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> ta da
#2239 [20:31] <Pbpredator> thank you got it working
#2240 [20:31] <Pbpredator> you guys are awesome
#2241 [20:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> Pbpredator: \o/
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#2247 [20:40] <TheAtariNerd> Hello? I need help with porn forwarding
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#2249 [20:41] <mattym> that was a joke right?
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#2254 [20:43] <TheAtariNerd> Helo?
#2255 [20:43] <mattym> yes
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#2258 [20:46] <Pbpredator> thank you all
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#2262 [20:48] <brenn932> my favorite server is out dated what do i do
#2263 [20:49] <brenn932> thello
#2264 [20:49] <mattym> downgrade or play single player
#2265 [20:49] <brenn932> how do you down grade
#2266 [20:49] <mattym> ??< brenn932 oldversion
#2267 [20:50] <brenn932> what is that
#2268 [20:50] <mattym> oh god im tired and did that backwards
#2269 [20:50] <mattym> ?? oldversion
#2270 [20:50] <brenn932> what is oldversion
#2271 [20:50] <VoxelHead> oldversion: By now there are several ways to downgrade your version of Minecraft. Either use a tool like McNostalgia, use a backup of your own, or download the old Minecraft binaries provided by Mojang. See ?? oldversion/list for a list of available binaries.
#2272 [20:50] <VoxelHead> oldversion: Please note that we do not support old versions.
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#2275 [20:58] <brenn932> i cant find anything that helps me downgrade
#2276 [20:59] <mattym> then just wait for your servers admin to update, or play single player
#2277 [20:59] <brenn932> what is that
#2278 [21:00] <mattym> what version do you want?
#2279 [21:00] <brenn932> 1.4.5
#2280 [21:01] <mattym> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_5/minecraft.jar
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#2286 [21:20] <TheAtariNerd> Can i get some help with port forwarding on a netgear?
#2287 [21:21] <TheAtariNerd> hello?
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#2289 [21:22] <mattym> are you gonna stay in the channel this time?
#2290 [21:22] <TheAtariNerd> yes
#2291 [21:22] <TheAtariNerd> sorry. bad timimng
#2292 [21:22] <TheAtariNerd> but im on now
#2293 [21:23] <big_dog_02> why wont it download on my computer
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#2295 [21:23] <mattym> TheAtariNerd: Where are you having your problems or do you need to know from start to finish
#2296 [21:23] <Suicidal_Speedy> can someone message me the link to where I can download 1.4.4 so I can get on my server please
#2297 [21:24] <big_dog_02> no it starts then it says out of memory
#2298 [21:24] <mattym> This has them all http://pastebin.com/gwrQrQL9 , if your version isnt here, just modify one of the similar links
#2299 [21:24] <TheAtariNerd> Port forwarding for my server. Namely External Start and Finish values
#2300 [21:25] <brenn932> is there anything else that can help with the server
#2301 [21:25] <mattym> if i remember correctly on a netgear that means what port number you want
#2302 [21:25] <big_dog_02> ok i will try
#2303 [21:25] <TheAtariNerd> Hold on. Let me log in to my netgear
#2304 [21:25] <mattym> regular MC port is 25565, so just put that in both feilds
#2305 [21:25] <brenn932> hello
#2306 [21:26] <brenn932> what does that mean
#2307 [21:26] <mattym> brenn932: I sent you the link earlier, if you cant figure out what to do then no one can help you any further
#2308 [21:26] <TheAtariNerd> I put it in the internal but do i put it in the external?
#2309 [21:26] <mattym> same
#2310 [21:26] <brenn932> how do you downgrade
#2311 [21:27] <TheAtariNerd> In the external start and ending port?
#2312 [21:27] <mattym> yeah, they should be the same
#2313 [21:27] <brenn932> what
#2314 [21:27] <TheAtariNerd> So in the external AND internal?
#2315 [21:27] <mattym> yeah, you want them all the be the same
#2316 [21:28] <brenn932> what are those
#2317 [21:28] <mattym> nothing to do with you
#2318 [21:28] <TheAtariNerd> But when i did that my friends could not connect
#2319 [21:28] <mattym> brenn932: do you know where your .minecraft folder is?
#2320 [21:28] <brenn932> I need this srever to work
#2321 [21:28] <brenn932> no i dont
#2322 [21:29] <mattym> are you on windows?
#2323 [21:29] <brenn932> yes
#2324 [21:29] <mattym> open any folder
#2325 [21:29] <brenn932> what
#2326 [21:29] <mattym> and in the top type this %APPDATA%
#2327 [21:29] <big_dog_02> it didnt work on the link that was emailed too me
#2328 [21:30] <mattym> big_dog_02: what is your problem?
#2329 [21:30] <big_dog_02> it says that it is out of memory
#2330 [21:30] <mattym> brenn932: from that folder find the .minecraft and in that find the bin folder, in there you need to replace your minecraft.jar with the one from the link
#2331 [21:31] <mattym> TheAtariNerd: What is the ip of your server?
#2332 [21:31] <brenn932> what is a folder
#2333 [21:31] <big_dog_02> i am not sure
#2334 [21:31] <TheAtariNerd> Hold on.
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#2336 [21:32] <brenn932> the server id is mc.crafterland.info
#2337 [21:32] <brenn932> if that helps
#2338 [21:32] <TheAtariNerd> 192.168.1.64
#2339 [21:32] <mattym> ok, thats where you did it wrong
#2340 [21:32] <mattym> thats your internal ip
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#2342 [21:32] <brenn932> ok
#2343 [21:33] <mattym> that only matters when you are setting the portforwarding
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#2346 [21:33] <mattym> TheAtariNerd: i sent you a private chat invite
#2347 [21:33] <brenn932> what do i do to downgradwe my account
#2348 [21:33] <TheAtariNerd> how do i accept?
#2349 [21:34] <mattym> it should have just showed up as a tab up top
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#2351 [21:34] <tindrum> is the 1.4.5 jar available anywhere?
#2352 [21:34] <TheAtariNerd> nope.
#2353 [21:34] <Shadowquinn> anyone here that can help?
#2354 [21:35] <TheAtariNerd> i double clicked your name
#2355 [21:35] <tindrum> how difficult is it to upgrade the server version? does it break any mods and server-side stuff?
#2356 [21:35] <Shadowquinn> just reinstalled windows xp now minecraft hangs and goes dead at the screen where you pick single player and options
#2357 [21:35] <mattym> tindrum: yes it will break that kind of stuff
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#2359 [21:37] <Shadowquinn> Anyone?
#2360 [21:37] <tindrum> it will undoubtedly break it?
#2361 [21:37] <mattym> if you just reinstalled did you install java
#2362 [21:37] <mattym> tindrum: yes
#2363 [21:38] <tindrum> ok, thanks.
#2364 [21:38] <Shadowquinn> yes java is at 7.10 video drivers are update sound is also, not running any mods just the 1.4.6 client
#2365 [21:38] <mattym> how much ram does your pc have?
#2366 [21:39] <Shadowquinn> 2 gigs
#2367 [21:39] <mattym> hmm that should be fine
#2368 [21:39] <Shadowquinn> it is an older pc but minecraft ran fine 8 hours ago
#2369 [21:39] <Shadowquinn> i have updated windows already
#2370 [21:40] <Shadowquinn> direct x was installed but they may be behind, just thought about that
#2371 [21:40] <Shadowquinn> i have dx 9 installed
#2372 [21:41] <mattym> that really shouldnt matter
#2373 [21:41] <Shadowquinn> could it be i need to get an older driver for the video?
#2374 [21:42] <mattym> no
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#2376 [21:42] <mattym> is it just crashing and closing or is minecraft giving you an error report
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#2378 [21:43] <brenn932> i need to downgrade my mi9necraft account
#2379 [21:44] <Shadowquinn> this is what i do, i start MC put my username/pass in wait for what seems to be forever then the mojang sign shows up the n i wait some more then the screen that has the options/sp/smp shows up and from there on i cant click anything and have to shut it down with task manger
#2380 [21:44] <brenn932> what
#2381 [21:44] <mattym> and im assuming you just installed after your reformat?
#2382 [21:45] <Shadowquinn> i rechecked to make sure i had all the newest drivers for video and windows and all
#2383 [21:45] <Shadowquinn> yes did a fresh install of windows updated everything installed MC adn now im here with you fine people lol
#2384 [21:45] <brenn932> can i downgrade my account from minecraft.net
#2385 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> Downgrade in what way? From paid to unpaid?
#2386 [21:46] <brenn932> from 1.4.6 to1.4.5
#2387 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> Sure
#2388 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion/list
#2389 [21:46] <VoxelHead> oldversion/list: A partial list of all Minecraft binary files which are hosted publicly by Mojang can be found here: https://pastebin.com/gwrQrQL9
#2390 [21:46] <mattym> DiskDaemon: please just kick him, hes been trolling for hours, and if its not trolling then hes just stupid
#2391 [21:46] <VoxelHead> oldversion/list: A much uglier, but up-to-date list can be found here: http://morrolan.ch/minecrafthelp/minecraft_assets.html
#2392 [21:47] <mattym> hes been told that already
#2393 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> brenn932: Is there anything else that we can help you with?
#2394 [21:50] <brenn932> i need to downgrade my account to 1.4.5
#2395 [21:50] <brenn932> thats it
#2396 [21:50] <DiskDaemon> brenn932: You have been instructed on where to get the file that you need to achieve that
#2397 [21:50] <brenn932> where
#2398 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> brenn932: From VoxelHead's oldversion information
#2399 [21:52] <brenn932> i dont understand that
#2400 [21:52] <DiskDaemon> brenn932: If you want to downgrade the Minecraft version, you have to do that yourself
#2401 [21:53] <brenn932> what do i have to do to do it
#2402 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> just replace your existing minecraft.jar file with the older version of it
#2403 [21:53] <brenn932> what is a minecraft.jar
#2404 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> It's the game file that contains Minecraft
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#2406 [21:54] <brenn932> where would it be
#2407 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/.minecraft
#2408 [21:55] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#2409 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> You will find the minecraft jar file in the .minecraft/bin/ folder
#2410 [21:55] <brenn932> i am only 10
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#2412 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> Then you may need to obtain someone to help you out in person, at your computer.
#2413 [21:57] <brenn932> ok but my brother is probably the only one who would understand this and he wont do ti
#2414 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> Then it seems that you have some learning to do
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#2438 [23:07] <jano> negro
#2439 [23:08] <jano> i am trying to buy mine craft and it sends me a email but i don't get on
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#2443 [23:08] <BGC4LYFE> can some1help me
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#2445 [23:09] <BGC4LYFE> can someone help me please!
#2446 [23:09] <BGC4LYFE> i need help unupdating
#2447 [23:09] <BGC4LYFE> from 1.4.6 to 1.4.5
#2448 [23:10] <mattym> before we try to help do you at least know where your .minecraft folder is?
#2449 [23:10] <BGC4LYFE> yes sir
#2450 [23:10] <mattym> thank god
#2451 [23:10] <BGC4LYFE> :)
#2452 [23:10] <mattym> know how to replace a minecraft jar?
#2453 [23:10] <gixr95> When I login to Minecraft all I get is a black screen. I was always able to login to the system but I download a new update 1.4.6 and now I get a black screen when I login.
#2454 [23:11] <BGC4LYFE> no i dont matt
#2455 [23:11] <mattym> BGC4LYFE: thats ok, one second
#2456 [23:11] <BGC4LYFE> ok
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#2458 [23:12] <mattym> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_5/minecraft.jar first off download that
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#2460 [23:12] <mattym> gixr95: do you use mods?
#2461 [23:12] <BGC4LYFE> i did but not right now
#2462 [23:12] <gixr95> Yes we were using herobrine mod
#2463 [23:13] <BGC4LYFE> ok matt i got it
#2464 [23:13] <mattym> then you need to wait for that mod to be updated to use the new version
#2465 [23:13] <BGC4LYFE> jar (1)
#2466 [23:13] <mattym> it downloaded with a (1) after it?
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#2468 [23:13] <BGC4LYFE> yes sir
#2469 [23:13] <mattym> go to your downloads folder and delete any minecraft.jar
#2470 [23:13] <mattym> including the one you just got
#2471 [23:14] <mattym> once that is done, redownload the file
#2472 [23:14] <BGC4LYFE> ok redownlading
#2473 [23:15] <mattym> ok, in the .minecraft folder go to the folder called bin
#2474 [23:15] <BGC4LYFE> kk got it now what
#2475 [23:15] <BGC4LYFE> kk
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#2477 [23:15] <mattym> and replace the minecraft.jar in there with the one you downloaded
#2478 [23:15] <mattym> that should take you back to 1,4.5
#2479 [23:15] <BGC4LYFE> wait do i delete the ones?
#2480 [23:15] <BGC4LYFE> like its called .minecraft - copy
#2481 [23:16] <mattym> hmmm
#2482 [23:16] <mattym> that not the one you want
#2483 [23:16] <BGC4LYFE> i have natives minecraft minecraft - copy
#2484 [23:16] <BGC4LYFE> im in my .bin
#2485 [23:16] <mattym> ok
#2486 [23:16] <mattym> in there there should be a file called minecraft.jar
#2487 [23:17] <mattym> you want to get rid of that, and replace it with the one you downloaded
#2488 [23:17] <BGC4LYFE> nope theres minecraft as a jarfile?
#2489 [23:17] <mattym> yeah thats it
#2490 [23:17] <BGC4LYFE> i got 2 delete them nboth??:)
#2491 [23:17] <mattym> what do you mean both?
#2492 [23:18] <BGC4LYFE> like i have minecraft and minecraft - Copy
#2493 [23:18] <mattym> the copy shouldnt matter
#2494 [23:18] <mattym> you can delete it if you want it shouldnt make a difference
#2495 [23:19] <BGC4LYFE> kk deleted them both;)
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#2497 [23:19] <mattym> now put the file you downloaded in its place
#2498 [23:19] <gixr95> So the 2 that I have I see easymodinstaller and herobrinecontroller
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#2500 [23:19] <BGC4LYFE> wait 1 sec
#2501 [23:20] <BGC4LYFE> matt i have winrar and that thing i just downloaded is in there
#2502 [23:20] <gixr95> Do I delete those installation files?
#2503 [23:20] <BGC4LYFE> do i like extract?
#2504 [23:20] <mattym> BGC4LYFE: no
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#2506 [23:20] <BGC4LYFE> just click and drag??
#2507 [23:20] <mattym> yeah
#2508 [23:21] <mattym> gixr95: if you use mods, you need to wait till they get updated, before you update minecraft
#2509 [23:22] <BGC4LYFE> noooo i just closed it lol where can i find it;)
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#2511 [23:22] <mattym> closed what?
#2512 [23:22] <BGC4LYFE> the winrar with the new .jar
#2513 [23:23] <mattym> you shouldnt be using winrar
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#2515 [23:23] <mattym> there is no need to open the files
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#2517 [23:23] <BGC4LYFE> k so my .minecraft dosent have .minecraft jar in it how i get it in
#2518 [23:24] <gixr95> thanks for trying but I'm getting too tired and not sure what to do. thanks Matt I will try another avenue tomorrow only because I'm tired and my son is giving me a hard time and I cannot fix this game.
#2519 [23:25] <mattym> ok BGC4LYFE are you on windows?
#2520 [23:25] <BGC4LYFE> yes
#2521 [23:25] <BGC4LYFE> vista
#2522 [23:25] <mattym> are you in the folder %APPDATA%
#2523 [23:25] <BGC4LYFE> yes
#2524 [23:25] <mattym> and from there in .minecraft/bin
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#2527 [23:25] <BGC4LYFE> yes
#2528 [23:25] <mattym> ok
#2529 [23:25] <mattym> now
#2530 [23:26] <mattym> open another window, and go to your downloads folder
#2531 [23:26] <gixr95> Do you mean that window that was just sitting there was updating? I waited 2 minutes with no window or scroll bar telling me that it was installing.
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#2533 [23:26] <BGC4LYFE> kk i have it in the other window
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#2535 [23:27] <mattym> now in your downloads folder do you see a file called minecraft.jar or just minecraft (that is a jar file)
#2536 [23:27] <mattym> gixr95: what do you mean?
#2537 [23:27] <BGC4LYFE> yes i got it
#2538 [23:27] <BGC4LYFE> click and drag into .bin?L:)
#2539 [23:27] <mattym> ok, take that file and move it to bin
#2540 [23:27] <gixr95> When I coose to updae to 1.4.6 the windows justa sat and did nothing
#2541 [23:28] <BGC4LYFE> ok got it in
#2542 [23:28] <mattym> sometimes it takes a while, did it do something now?
#2543 [23:28] <mattym> ok BGC4LYFE now try to start minecraft
#2544 [23:28] <mattym> if it worked let me know
#2545 [23:29] <gixr95> Let me try agIN
#2546 [23:29] <gixr95> AGAIN
#2547 [23:29] <BGC4LYFE> kk its loading
#2548 [23:29] <BGC4LYFE> its downloading some shittt
#2549 [23:30] <mattym> why is it downloading?
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#2551 [23:30] <gixr95> I can no login login to mmincraft
#2552 [23:30] <BGC4LYFE> yea still on 1.4.6
#2553 [23:30] <mattym> ok hang on
#2554 [23:31] <mattym> did it make another .minecraft copy in yout %APPDATA%
#2555 [23:31] <TheMDragon> When I log into minecraft it goes to a black screen?
#2556 [23:31] <TheMDragon> Anyone else having similar problems
#2557 [23:31] <mattym> yeah you and gixr95 seem to having the same issue
#2558 [23:31] <TheMDragon> Mac user?
#2559 [23:31] <TheMDragon> I just updated Java D:
#2560 [23:32] <mattym> gixr95: are you on a Mac?
#2561 [23:32] <gixr95> No
#2562 [23:32] <gixr95> Windows 7 x64
#2563 [23:32] <TheMDragon> :P
#2564 [23:32] <TheMDragon> Anyway ummm does Mojang have a telephone #
#2565 [23:32] <TheMDragon> for American Callers
#2566 [23:32] <BGC4LYFE> mattym i can wait;) ill be back in a few
#2567 [23:32] <DopeGhoti> TheMDragon: no
#2568 [23:32] <TheMDragon> :l Damn you Notch
#2569 [23:33] <TheMDragon> I don't want to downgrade D:
#2570 [23:33] <mattym> gixr95: is it working at all yet?
#2571 [23:33] <TheMDragon> But I want to play mincraft
#2572 [23:33] <DopeGhoti> If I had 14 million customers, I wouldn't want a public phone number anyhow
#2573 [23:33] <gixr95> No
#2574 [23:33] <DopeGhoti> what happems when you try, TheMDragon?
#2575 [23:33] <TheMDragon> Not a public telephone, just a help line
#2576 [23:33] <TheMDragon> :l
#2577 [23:34] <TheMDragon> It just goes to a quick screen that says Updating Minecraft, and then instantly goes black
#2578 [23:34] <mattym> how does a nonregisterd user accept a pm invite?
#2579 [23:34] <gixr95> I nevery get the install screen it just goes black
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#2581 [23:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> TheMDragon win/reinst
#2582 [23:34] <TheMDragon> It did that to me once
#2583 [23:34] <VoxelHead> TheMDragon: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2584 [23:34] <VoxelHead> TheMDragon: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2585 [23:35] <TheMDragon> Windows is too over rated lags too much. I have a MAC.
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#2587 [23:35] <DopeGhoti> ??> TheMDragon mac/reinst
#2588 [23:35] <TheMDragon> Apple phone, apple computer, apple headphones :P
#2589 [23:35] <VoxelHead> TheMDragon: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2590 [23:35] <VoxelHead> TheMDragon: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2591 [23:35] <BGC4LYFE> ok mattym
#2592 [23:35] <TheMDragon> do I need to reinstall mine craft?
#2593 [23:35] <BGC4LYFE> soo im on 1.4.6 and i want to go back to 1.4.5
#2594 [23:36] <TheMDragon> or just drag it to the trash, and not empty my trash
#2595 [23:36] <mattym> BGC4LYFE: are you still in your %APPDATA%?
#2596 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> BGC4LYFE: we do not support old versions.
#2597 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> TheMDragon: emptying the trash is optional.
#2598 [23:36] <BGC4LYFE> yes
#2599 [23:36] <TheMDragon> Ok, and then I have to reinstall it right?
#2600 [23:36] <mattym> did it make that .minecraft - copy again
#2601 [23:37] <BGC4LYFE> nope
#2602 [23:37] <DopeGhoti> TheMDragon: it'll reinstall itself when you rerun the launcher and log in
#2603 [23:37] <TheMDragon> but if I empty the trash the application is void, and won't be able to open
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#2605 [23:38] <mattym> BGC4LYFE: double click my name
#2606 [23:38] <DopeGhoti> TheMDragon: if you remove the files you were told to remove, things will work as described.
#2607 [23:38] <BGC4LYFE> kk i did
#2608 [23:38] <TheMDragon> Ok I already removed the resource file a while back
#2609 [23:39] <TheMDragon> I removed everything under the name Minecraft except my skins
#2610 [23:39] <TheMDragon> empty the trash correct?
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#2612 [23:40] <gixr95> Matt NO this is not fun
#2613 [23:40] <TheMDragon> XD it is for me
#2614 [23:41] <mattym> gixr95: accept my private chat request
#2615 [23:41] <TheMDragon> yeah its doing the same thing
#2616 [23:41] <DopeGhoti> TheMDragon: again: emptying the trash is optional. did you also trash the bin folder?
#2617 [23:41] <TheMDragon> yes everything labeled under minecraft
#2618 [23:41] <TheMDragon> except my skins
#2619 [23:42] <gixr95> Ido not see the request
#2620 [23:42] <mattym> try double clicking my name
#2621 [23:42] <DopeGhoti> good. try launching Minecraft agai, TheMDragon
#2622 [23:42] <TheMDragon> I have to download it again, and now it's giving me the same problems
#2623 [23:42] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#2624 [23:42] <DopeGhoti> ??> TheMDragon mac/profile
#2625 [23:42] <VoxelHead> TheMDragon: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2626 [23:42] <VoxelHead> TheMDragon: (mac/profile) Please create a new system account (System Preferences => Accounts, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2627 [23:43] <TheMDragon> ok :P
#2628 [23:43] <TheMDragon> one sec
#2629 [23:44] <gixr95> I'm sorry maytt all I see is WHOIS
#2630 [23:45] <TheMDragon> ok im going to restart my comp :)
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#2632 [23:45] <mattym> DopeGhoti: what is the propper way to send someone an invite to a private window?
#2633 [23:45] <DopeGhoti> mattym: /query username
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