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#7 [00:48] <mattym> ok so the person im trying to help says he minecraft tries to update every time he launches
#8 [00:48] <mattym> any idea why this is happening?
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#11 [00:51] <Frostic> the world ended while you was afk.
#12 [00:52] <Elystus> mattym, can you describe the issue a bit more?
#13 [00:53] <mattym> I talked him through a downgrade
#14 [00:53] <mattym> but whenever he launches and logs in, it starts updating without asking
#15 [00:53] <mattym> is there any reason it would be doing this?
#16 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> Is he still using an outdated launcher?>
#17 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> The old, pre-release, non-news feed launcher used to do this.
#18 [01:09] <mattym> no, i had him get the new one
#19 [01:10] <mattym> he said he origionaly had the demo one
#20 [01:10] <mattym> i thought that may have something to do with it
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#22 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> It should always ask before updating, unless he's never had the files before
#23 [01:10] <mattym> a forced auto update to stop people from cracking it
#24 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#25 [01:11] <mattym> trust me im as confused about this as anyone else, i talked him through it exactly the way i would do it
#26 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> The launcher will always check to see if there's a version file in the .minecraft folder before it downloads files. If it doesn't detect one there, it'll start downloading the latest files
#27 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> There won't be a version file, if it's a new install, or if it's been deleted
#28 [01:12] <mattym> i went through all of that
#29 [01:12] <mattym> i did it on my end as well
#30 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> So then, update to the latest, then replace the minecraft.jar with the version that you want.
#31 [01:12] <mattym> thats what i told him to do
#32 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> It should not ask to update afterwards
#33 [01:13] <mattym> and he did it
#34 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> Can you doubly-confirm that he did it in the right location?
#35 [01:13] <mattym> the problem is, after he replaces the jar it decides to try and update on its own
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#37 [01:13] <mattym> yeah
#38 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> It shouldn't. Not unless he did something wrong
#39 [01:15] <mattym> Mojang really just needs to put a rollback option into the launcher for these people that dont understand the possible pitfalls of updating
#40 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> There are no pitfalls for updating, unless you're using mods, which aren't developed by Mojang (yet)
#41 [01:16] <mattym> servers
#42 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> And thus, don't fall under Mojang's support (yet)
#43 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Then that's the fault of the server admin for not keeping up with updates, not Mojang's
#44 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> And also, Mojang provides old minecraft.jars now, if you know where to look
#45 [01:17] <mattym> yeah and thats where i had him get the file from
#46 [01:17] <mattym> but something in his setup was still causing an issue
#47 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> Does minecraft update when you roll your own minecraft.jar back?
#48 [01:17] <mattym> not for me
#49 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> It does not for me either
#50 [01:18] <mattym> but for some reason his was
#51 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Remote into his computer, do it yourself.
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#53 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Or get him to show/tell you how he's doing it, step by step
#54 [01:18] <mattym> yeah its looking like that may be my last choice
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#57 [01:19] <mattym> trust me when i say i walked him through it step by step
#58 [01:19] <mattym> the only thing i can think of is that hes moving the wrong file
#59 [01:20] <mattym> cuase some genius at microsoft decided file extensions should be hidden by default
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#61 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Possible
#62 [01:24] <Elystus> He is probably doing something wrong, I would just get team viewer and do it for him.
#63 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> What browser is he using to download the older minecraft.jar with?
#64 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> (Is the browser renaming the .jar with .zip, and thus, deleting the minecraft.jar and replacing it, didn't result in the proper naming of the file)
#65 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> The Browser Which Should Not Be Namedâ„¢ is frequently seen to be doing this
#66 [01:27] <mattym> that may be the issue
#67 [01:27] <mattym> actually im almost positive that is
#68 [01:27] <mattym> and we have a winner
#69 [01:28] <mattym> this is why i love this channel, never would have know that on my own, seeing as replacing that browser is the first thing i do on any computer i own
#70 [01:29] * GreyVulpine does the same thing.
#70 [01:29] * Elystus replaces it with chrome
#70 [01:29] * Calinou switched to firefox recently so he can't say he uses chromium
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#72 [01:31] <mattym> see now i have issues with Chrome, its still too new and thus there are a lot of little things that just dont work
#73 [01:31] <mattym> they ever get neflix working on it?
#74 [01:31] <Elystus> It's always worked for me
#75 [01:32] <mattym> well, for a long time, it didnt
#76 [01:32] <mattym> as well as a lot of other internet video plugins
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#78 [01:33] <Elystus> I haven't run into any issues with chrome so far. Seems that they fixed most of these issues.
#79 [01:33] <Calinou> netflix is overrated :P
#80 [01:33] <Elystus> Netflix is good if you're not paying lol
#81 [01:34] <mattym> well i know recently you cant install extensions unless they come from the "marketplace" now
#82 [01:34] <Elystus> what extensions would you want that aren't there? They have a vast selection of extentions
#83 [01:35] <mattym> ones for some less than reputable streaming sites
#84 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> Here's a question, does Chrome have a decent mouse gestures plugin yet?
#85 [01:35] <mattym> i thought it always had that
#86 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#87 [01:36] <Elystus> It has a few, but I have never tried them
#88 [01:36] <mattym> touchscreen laptop, best investment i ever made
#89 [01:36] <mattym> gestures for everything
#90 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Ah, for the longest time after Chrome launched, it didn't have any mouse gesture support
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#131 [04:13] <unimatrix> i found it fitting for mojang to release the update on 21/12/2012
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#146 [04:56] <James9270> Hey err can someone help me with something?
#147 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Depends
#148 [04:58] <James9270> My minecraft closes itself (During gameplay) and leaves a "hs_err_pid###.txt" where Minecraft.exe is.
#149 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Share the contents of that hs_err_pid error log via ww.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#150 [04:58] <James9270> ok, hold on a sec...
#151 [05:00] <James9270> http://pastebin.com/m41Nwk2R
#152 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, has minecraft ever worked before?
#153 [05:01] <James9270> On another laptop, that one broke however, I got this one recently.
#154 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag on that computer?
#155 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#156 [05:02] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#157 [05:02] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#158 [05:03] <James9270> Sorry, I don't really know what that means (I'm kind of a newbie :p)
#159 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Read VoxelHead's instructions
#160 [05:04] <James9270> ok
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#162 [05:05] <James9270> http://pastebin.com/Tm6Dj7jn
#163 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Looks like old drivers, one moment
#164 [05:07] <James9270> ok
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#167 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx
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#170 [05:11] <James9270> getting it...
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#172 [05:20] <James9270> It says failures occured during installation, it gave me a log, should I put it on pastebin?
#173 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, sure
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#175 [05:21] <James9270> http://pastebin.com/CkEndtsU
#176 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> Alright, hmm. Try: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/Product/latitude-d610
#177 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> Go down to video, then select the X300 driver to download and install
#178 [05:29] <James9270> ok
#179 [05:35] <James9270> have to restart computer, brb.
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#183 [05:38] <James9270_> Back
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#185 [05:41] <James9270_> I'm going to try re-installing java, the driver didn't fix the problem...
#186 [05:41] <James9270_> I'm going to try re-installing java, the driver didn't fix the problem...
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#188 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> The issue is that the computer is pretty old to begin with, and finding up to date drivers for that x300 video card is hard
#189 [05:42] <James9270_> ok
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#193 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> The drivers that are installed right now, is from 2005.
#194 [05:42] <James9270_> ouch
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#197 [05:53] <James9270_> so... what would you suggest I do?
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#200 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> try these perhaps? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx
#201 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> If those don't work, I don't really see another driver available for that computer
#202 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> Well, okay, maybe a previous version may work also. Here's a link for version 9.3: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/9-3/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?&lang=English -- Try that if the above doesn't work
#203 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> If neither works, you'll need to look into a newer computer to play minecraft with.
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#208 [06:09] <Andrio> ??< cmp/fireworks
#209 [06:10] * Andrio mumbles to himself.
#209 [06:10] <James9270_> ok, sorry I was doing something
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#241 [08:12] <aj_> All of a sudden I cannot get right click to work
#242 [08:12] <aj_> it wont open my chest or allow me to eat etc
#243 [08:12] <aj_> any fix?
#244 [08:20] <aj_> it wont let me eat or open a chest, what do i do?
#245 [08:20] <aj_> help
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#247 [08:23] <aj_> my right click will not work to open chests and eat, is there any way to fix it?
#248 [08:23] <aj_> help
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#252 [08:36] <NolanSyKinsley> relog?
#253 [08:37] <NolanSyKinsley> reboot?
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#255 [08:37] <Flutters> oh man, this bug is interesting.
#256 [08:37] <Flutters> I'm on a 1.4.5 server
#257 [08:37] <Flutters> If I try to drop an item
#258 [08:38] <Flutters> it ends up in the slot where my boots go
#259 [08:38] <Flutters> even if I'm wearing boots
#260 [08:38] <Flutters> and that happens when I pick up drops sometimes as well
#261 [08:38] <Flutters> Anyone any ideas on that? It's pretty damn annoying
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#264 [08:39] <NolanSyKinsley> I would reinstall your mods on a fresh minecraft.jar 1 at a time until you find the culprit
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#266 [08:44] <g> NolanSyKinsley: Not using mods.
#267 [08:44] <g> Tried grabbing new jars and such already.
#268 [08:44] <NolanSyKinsley> =/ what OS?
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#271 [08:50] <g> NolanSyKinsley: Windows 8 pro x64
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#282 [09:15] <Ramses_88> i was playing on my server with a friend when i died and then i got a minecraft crash error. how can i prevent that
#283 [09:16] <NolanSyKinsley> what mods do you have?
#284 [09:16] <NolanSyKinsley> and the error itself would help as well
#285 [09:16] <Ramses_88> no mods
#286 [09:16] <Ramses_88> wait a min
#287 [09:18] <Ramses_88> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Unexpected error A full error report has been saved to C:\Users\Fredrik\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2012-12-21_15.17.40-client.txt - Please include a copy of that file (Not this screen!) if you report this crash to anyone; without it, they will not be able to help fix the crash :(
#288 [09:18] <Lutzee> ?? pastebin
#289 [09:18] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#290 [09:18] <Ramses_88> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Unexpected error A full error report has been saved to C:\Users\Fredrik\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2012-12-21_15.17.40-client.txt - Please include a copy of that file (Not this screen!) if you report this crash to anyone; without it, they will not be able to help fix the crash :(
#291 [09:18] <Lutzee> Ramses_88: pastebin.com please.
#292 [09:19] <NolanSyKinsley> oh, and read the first paragraph of that error, it points to the true error log
#293 [09:19] <Lutzee> NolanSyKinsley: That is just a text dump of what he sees
#294 [09:20] <Ramses_88> A full error report has been saved to C:\Users\Fredrik\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2012-12-21_15.17.40-client.txt - Please include a copy of that file (Not this screen!) if you report this crash to anyone; without it, they will not be able to help fix the crash :( is waht it say
#295 [09:21] <Lutzee> Ramses_88: please follow VoxelHeads instructions above.
#296 [09:22] <Ramses_88> i dont understand how am i suppose to show u the error message if i cant copy it to the chat?
#297 [09:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> Ramses_88: read what is being actually typed to you
#298 [09:23] <Lutzee> ?? pastebin
#299 [09:23] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#301 [09:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> hint: use this ^
#302 [09:24] <Ramses_88> http://pastebin.com/1CN7hQtc
#303 [09:25] <Morrolan> Does it work without mods? :)
#304 [09:25] <Ramses_88> its the whole error message
#305 [09:25] <Lutzee> "<Ramses_88> no mods" I see mods there.
#306 [09:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> com.pclewis.mcpatcher.mod.TileSize
#307 [09:25] <Ramses_88> yes, but every time i die i get disconekted and i cant rejoin
#308 [09:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> Ramses_88: we dont support mods here
#309 [09:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> Ramses_88: remove all the mods and if it still doesnt work, come back
#310 [09:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> otherwise, sorry
#311 [09:26] <Ramses_88> so its the mcpatcher?
#312 [09:26] <NolanSyKinsley> we don't know
#313 [09:26] <Lutzee> Its minimap
#314 [09:26] <NolanSyKinsley> or that
#315 [09:26] <Lutzee> java.lang.VerifyError: (class: reifnsk/minimap/ReiMinimap, method: onTickInGame signature: (FLnet/minecraft/client/Minecraft;)V) Bad type in putfield/putstatic
#316 [09:26] <DiskDaemon> Ramses_88: We don't deal with mods here, which includes mcpatcher, which we don't deal with either
#317 [09:27] <Ramses_88> i didnt know it was counted as a mod. ok i will try agen
#318 [09:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> .........
#319 [09:27] <Lutzee> Any form of 3rd party change to the game is a mod
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#321 [09:28] <Morrolan> Ramses_88 - There's also Rei's Minimap. :)
#322 [09:29] <Ramses_88> thank is worj fine agen ^_^ thank u thank u i can play mp agen
#323 [09:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> Ramses_88: next time, please don't just say "no mods" without giving all the info first
#324 [09:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> even if you're unsure
#325 [09:30] <Ramses_88> but i didnt know it counted as a mod i i thought i hade removed reis minimap sens it didnet work. but thank u anyway
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#327 [09:31] <NolanSyKinsley> >.<
#328 [09:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> ^^
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#330 [09:33] <Kiwi_> hello?
#331 [09:34] <NolanSyKinsley> yo
#332 [09:34] <Kiwi_> Can someon help me install minecraft on windows xp?
#333 [09:35] <NolanSyKinsley> I think you jsut run it
#334 [09:35] <Lutzee> Download the launcher from minecraft.net/download and run it
#335 [09:35] <Lutzee> Then log in
#336 [09:35] <Lutzee> Pretty much it
#337 [09:38] <Kiwi_> that doesnt work i login and it switches off minecraft
#338 [09:38] <Lutzee> Then there is an error somewhere
#339 [09:40] <Kiwi_> ok could it be the virtual memory page
#340 [09:40] * DiskDaemon mutters something about a crash report
#340 [09:41] <NolanSyKinsley> how much memory do you have?
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#342 [09:42] <DiskDaemon> If we first get the crash report then we can aim our assistance in the correct direction.
#343 [09:42] <DiskDaemon> Kiwi_: There should be a crash-report folder in the .minecraft/ location
#344 [09:42] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/.minecraft
#345 [09:42] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#346 [09:43] <DiskDaemon> Kiwi_: If there is no relevant crash report in there, you can get one yourself via the following instructions http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#347 [09:43] <Kiwi_> ok
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#350 [09:47] <Cesar> can you play creative mode on minecraft demo
#351 [09:47] <Lutzee> No
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#361 [10:09] <tristan> I just bought and registered minecraft for my kids, after downloaded game, we go to sign in and it says there is an error... Ithis is frustrating....please help
#362 [10:10] <FLHerne> tristan: What's the error?
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#364 [10:11] <worldmc> it would help if you would give is the error yes
#365 [10:11] <tristan> login failed
#366 [10:12] <worldmc> you sure you have the right login info?
#367 [10:12] <DiskDaemon> IWhat are you logging in with? Yout username or your email address?
#368 [10:12] <mattym> how long ago did you purchase it?
#369 [10:12] * frdmn|afk is now known as frdmn
#370 [10:13] <tristan> yes, i made it simple. plus there is no password recover to be emailed on the login
#371 [10:13] <Lutzee> tristan: You should be using the email address you registered with to login
#372 [10:13] <tristan> ok i will try
#373 [10:13] <DiskDaemon> tristan: Which is it that you are attempting to log in with? Your username, or your email address?
#374 [10:14] <tristan> k its working..thnks
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#376 [10:18] <FLHerne> tristan: That's good. Have fun :-)
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#379 [10:22] <Jodi> Your payment screen is messed up. You can not type in the payment boxes.
#380 [10:22] <Jodi> we are trying to set up a new account
#381 [10:23] <Jodi> hello?
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#383 [10:23] <NolanSyKinsley> >.<
#384 [10:23] <Lutzee> ..
#385 [10:23] <Lutzee> He was probably using IE
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#394 [10:43] <aj_> anyone else experiencing problems with right click not working
#395 [10:46] <Lutzee> ??> aj_ win/.minecraft
#396 [10:46] <VoxelHead> aj_: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#397 [10:46] <Lutzee> ^ go there and delete the options file
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#400 [10:58] <Mikko_blu> anyone having this problem? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1610461-minecraft-crashes-after-breaking-a-certain-jukebox-in-a-certain-world/
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#405 [11:05] <PandaMan> I've recently acquired an old computer and I'm wondering if I can get MC to run on it. I've tried already but when I try to open it, it says "Failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode". Can I get minecraft to run or is my GPS too old?
#406 [11:06] <PandaMan> *GPU, I meant
#407 [11:06] <oldtopman> PandaMan: Your GPU may be too old, but you could try updating your graphics drivers.
#408 [11:07] <PandaMan> I think I have the most up to date drivers.
#409 [11:08] <Lutzee> ??> PandaMan win/dxdiag
#410 [11:08] <VoxelHead> PandaMan: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#411 [11:08] <VoxelHead> PandaMan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#412 [11:08] <Lutzee> That will give us a good idea of whether it can
#413 [11:08] <PandaMan> Wait... that could explain it. It's not actually a graphics card - it's an ancient Intel integrated graphics
#414 [11:09] <PandaMan> but okay, I'll still do that
#415 [11:10] <PandaMan> http://pastebin.com/H8RY1nSX
#416 [11:10] <g> Yep
#417 [11:10] <g> that's what it is
#418 [11:10] <g> :P
#419 [11:10] <g> Card name: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
#420 [11:10] <g> Display Memory: 224.0 MB
#421 [11:11] <g> Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
#422 [11:11] <g> wow, that's fairly old
#423 [11:11] <g> Mini VDD Date: 3/23/2006 20:47:06
#424 [11:11] <PandaMan> Yeah. I got the computer for free, so I'm ot complaining really. MC would just have been a bonus
#425 [11:12] <g> I can't say I feel hopeful about getting it going
#426 [11:12] <g> but
#427 [11:12] <g> Have you done a driver update yet?
#428 [11:12] <PandaMan> yes
#429 [11:12] <PandaMan> I'm fairly sure I got the most recent ones
#430 [11:12] <g> mm
#431 [11:12] <g> then it might be possible the gpu doesn't support opengl AT ALL
#432 [11:12] <g> which frankly wouldn't surprise me, given its age
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#434 [11:13] <Lutzee> Ahh an old optiplex, theres plenty of them arround, they were mass produced
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#436 [11:13] <Lutzee> And yes the chances you get it working is very slim
#437 [11:13] <FLHerne> I've had MC working on one of those :P
#438 [11:13] <Lutzee> Also is that on a CRT? :P
#439 [11:14] <PandaMan> Really FLHerne?! What's your secret?
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#441 [11:14] <PandaMan> lol, no CRT
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#444 [11:14] <FLHerne> PandaMan: Lightweight linux distro and much tweaking :P
#445 [11:15] <PandaMan> ooh, I have puppy linux installed on the computer as well
#446 [11:15] <Lutzee> Oh puppy linux, i have that on a memory stick that i use for fixing peoples PCs :D
#447 [11:16] <FLHerne> For the record, you shouldn't use a RasPi (even rev2) as a Minecraft server
#448 [11:16] <FLHerne> It isn't quite fast enough :-/
#449 [11:16] <PandaMan> If I try it on puppy linux will it work?
#450 [11:17] <Lutzee> Er if you can get the right drivers then maybe
#451 [11:17] <FLHerne> PandaMan: Dunno, Puppy isn't one I've played with much. Some chance of it doing so, though
#452 [11:17] <NolanSyKinsley> omg, a raspi as an MC server?!?! >.<
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#454 [11:17] <FLHerne> How's Puppy on having up-to-date drivers
#455 [11:18] <FLHerne> NolanSyKinsley: It runs, but tends to timeout loading players
#456 [11:18] <FLHerne> I did manage to connect to it a few times, though :D
#457 [11:18] <PandaMan> I'm not sure. I've always been a Windows person - linux is completely new to me and I haven't had a play around yet.
#458 [11:18] <oldtopman> PandaMan: I seriously doubt that you'd get it running at all, and even if you did, you'd get less than 5FPS.
#459 [11:18] <oldtopman> I only got 10 on a GMA 950, and that was with B1.3
#460 [11:19] <NolanSyKinsley> how do you think this would work?
#461 [11:19] <NolanSyKinsley> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9978?
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#463 [11:19] <PandaMan> What if I tried installing Optifine?
#464 [11:19] <NolanSyKinsley> oops, take the ? off of the end of the link >.<
#465 [11:20] <oldtopman> PandaMan: I really don't think anything could help your card :P
#466 [11:20] <FLHerne> NolanSyKinsley: Quite well, I suspect. Way faster than a Pi, but the RAM would still be an issue
#467 [11:20] * gSleep2002 is now known as g
#468 [11:20] <oldtopman> NolanSyKinsley: Not at all, last time I checked, minecraft doesn't support ARM.
#469 [11:21] <NolanSyKinsley> he said it ran on a Pi, that is arm
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#471 [11:21] <NolanSyKinsley> and it would be just the server, not the client
#472 [11:21] <oldtopman> Ah, server.
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#479 [11:34] <PandaMan> @FLHerne: What kinds of 'tweaks' did you do?
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#481 [11:39] <PandaMan> meh... well Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. Bye
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#487 [11:41] <Blargh__> Hi there! Minecraft keeps freezing and showing just the background then crashing.
#488 [11:42] <Blargh__> It happens when I go on most servers in 1.4.6.
#489 [11:42] <Blargh__> Any ideas on how to fix this?
#490 [11:42] <NolanSyKinsley> what mods do you have installed?
#491 [11:42] <Blargh__> I'm on win8 64x
#492 [11:42] <Blargh__> I'm in vanilla
#493 [11:42] <NolanSyKinsley> can you pastebin the error?
#494 [11:42] <Blargh__> okay
#495 [11:45] <Blargh__> http://pastebin.com/AhiAR99w
#496 [11:45] <Lutzee> You have mods.. and i believe you were here earlier.
#497 [11:46] <Blargh__> I have mods?
#498 [11:46] <NolanSyKinsley> get rid of reis minimap
#499 [11:46] <Blargh__> ok
#500 [11:46] <Lutzee> That is a mod, it changes the base game.
#501 [11:46] <Blargh__> yeah
#502 [11:46] <Blargh__> I guess I did have one installed.
#503 [11:46] <Blargh__> I didn't realize it was running.
#504 [11:47] <Blargh__> That was it
#505 [11:47] <Blargh__> Thank you.
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#510 [11:56] <Dr_Lezard> Hi! :)
#511 [11:57] <Dr_Lezard> can someone help me for a launcher?
#512 [11:57] <oldtopman> Nope.
#513 [11:57] <Dr_Lezard> :/
#514 [11:57] <oldtopman> We only support Vanilla minecraft here.
#515 [11:57] <Dr_Lezard> ok
#516 [11:57] <Dr_Lezard> thanks
#517 [11:57] <Dr_Lezard> thanks
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#539 [12:53] <Klingon> hey uhm this is a little embarresing but i am stuck underground in minecraft...i was just mining and all of a sudden i dont see the place where i came from. can the mine close of spaces you've dug yourself? since it seems like mine has. looked in every crevice. no way out..my pick broke...
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#541 [12:53] <DiskDaemon> Sometimes gravel or sand drops
#542 [12:53] <Lutzee> Er, not really unless you mined through gravel and it fell down behind you
#543 [12:53] <Klingon> no gravel. stone.
#544 [12:54] <DiskDaemon> If all else fails, dig a stairway up. You can dig those through stone even with your bare hands. It just takes more time
#545 [12:54] <Klingon> im at the bottom layers...yay
#546 [12:54] <Lutzee> Find your way to a higher point first
#547 [12:55] <Klingon> thank you. glad i made a compass now XD
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#550 [12:57] <Eddie> Qapla'!
#551 [12:58] <DopeGhoti> Klingon: don't dig straight up. always dig a stairway
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#553 [12:58] <DopeGhoti> unless you like drowning
#554 [12:59] <Klingon> okidoki.
#555 [13:00] <Klingon> digging straight up like a madame!
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#557 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> ok, I need to stop accidentally type in the topic
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#559 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> !topic undo
#560 [13:01] <Storm123> Hello
#561 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> salutations
#562 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> !topic -5
#563 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> !topic -5
#564 [13:03] <Storm123> Anyone knows how to fix that bug when minecraft dosent go fulscreen in Fedora 17 (GNOME 3)?
#565 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> Storm123: what happens when you try to maximize the window?
#566 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> (and how are you doing so?)
#567 [13:05] <Storm123> The windows gets big, but the top of the menu is still visable
#568 [13:05] <Storm123> F11 dose nothing
#569 [13:05] <Storm123> Newest drivers
#570 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> Hmm.
#571 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> And this only happens in GNOME3?
#572 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> (have you tried other WMs?)
#573 [13:05] <Storm123> and Fedora 17 with uses Gnome 3
#574 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> I get that. Have you tried any other WMs?
#575 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> (I am interested in seeing whether GNOME is the problem)
#576 [13:07] <Storm123> no..
#577 [13:07] <Storm123> Im pretty shure it is
#578 [13:07] <Storm123> *sure
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#581 [13:08] <YO> Yo
#582 [13:08] <Storm123> It didnt happen in Ubuntu 10.10 which had Gnome 2
#583 [13:08] <YO> HI
#584 [13:08] <YO> HI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#585 [13:09] <YO> Anyone help?
#586 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> Storm123: looks like a JRE issue
#587 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> according to some quick googleing
#588 [13:09] * YO is now known as Sprazzo
#589 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> which JRE are you using?
#590 [13:09] <Storm123> phh
#591 [13:09] <Storm123> Going to try Java 6
#592 [13:09] <Storm123> and report
#593 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> good luck
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#596 [13:10] <DopeGhoti> Sprazzo: how may #minecrafthelp be of service?
#597 [13:11] <Sprazzo> So, my friend lost his MC account, he didn't give the password/login to anyone, he sent an e-mail to Mojang because he wanted it back, he sent it with the giftcode he used for the account because some people on here said that you can get your account back by using the giftcode that you used for the account, so he sent it t Mojang 1 month ago and still no repl
#598 [13:11] <Sprazzo> Yes I know it's a lot to read but he needs help ... ;P
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#600 [13:13] <DopeGhoti> Sprazzo: we cannot help with account issues other than directing you to http://is.gs/mc_acct
#601 [13:14] <Sprazzo> Dis link doesnt work ._.
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#603 [13:14] <Sprazzo> Well it does but it's an ad
#604 [13:16] <Selbram> DopeGhoti, what the hell link is that
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#606 [13:16] <Selbram> Oh no!!! Where is my +?
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#608 [13:17] <TheNoodle> lol
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#610 [13:18] <TheNoodle> Selbram, you have no flags in this channel :P
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#613 [13:18] <Selbram> I totally had voice
#614 [13:18] <Selbram> bah
#615 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> Sprocks: mis-key. https://is.gd/mc_acct
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#617 [13:19] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle, I remember Selbram having voice
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#619 [13:20] <Selbram> I wonder if my bouncer flaked
#620 [13:20] <Eddie> Frosted flakes
#621 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> anyways here's once voice for you
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#623 [13:20] <Selbram> Magically delicious
#624 [13:20] <Selbram> woot
#625 [13:20] <TheNoodle> [ChanServ] Selbram has flags +A in #MineCraftHelp because they match the mask *!*@*.
#626 [13:21] <Selbram> ?
#627 [13:21] <Selbram> that mask is a little open
#628 [13:21] <TheNoodle> That's the only flags you have.
#629 [13:21] <TheNoodle> And +A just lets you view the flag list :P
#630 [13:21] <Selbram> fun
#631 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> that may be a default setting
#632 [13:22] <tyteen4a03> he's had voice since december 13 according to my logas
#633 [13:22] <tyteen4a03> *logs
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#635 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> An whole week.
#636 [13:22] <Selbram> That sounds about right tyteen4a03
#637 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> such precedent.
#638 [13:22] <Jack> Hi - can anyone tell me how to fix a problem where I can't get at my inventory on Minecraft, and when I scoll down it goes up, my computer itself is working fine?
#639 [13:22] <Selbram> well
#640 [13:22] <TheNoodle> greplog time!
#641 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> Jack: try deleting your options.txt file
#642 [13:23] <Jack> ok
#643 [13:23] <Jack> i did
#644 [13:23] <Jack> already
#645 [13:23] <Jack> i think
#646 [13:24] <Jack> just a second
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#649 [13:25] <Klingon> I found my house! Finally!
#650 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> Klingon, congrats
#651 [13:26] <mib_0d6exd> hello
#652 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> hi mib_0d6exd
#653 [13:26] <mib_0d6exd> I´ve a question about minecraft server
#654 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, shoot
#655 [13:26] <mib_0d6exd> I did downloaded and installed it, yet
#656 [13:26] <mib_0d6exd> but they cant be find by myself
#657 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, do you mean your friends cannot connect to your Minecraft server?
#658 [13:27] <mib_0d6exd> no, myself
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#661 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, are you saying you can't connect to the server?
#662 [13:28] <mib_0d6exd> Do I need to put a IP into the serveroptions ?
#663 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, no
#664 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, try turning on the server then use the IP 127.0.0.1 to connect
#665 [13:28] <mib_0d6exd> yap im saying that I cant connect to my own local server
#666 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, is the server turned on?
#667 [13:28] <Jack> hello there is something wrong with my server its(1.4.6)and i cant get on my invetory.When i scroll down ti goes up and i do not know whats wrong
#668 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> Jack, please go to your .minecraft folder and delete options.txt
#669 [13:29] <mib_0d6exd> Ok the local Ip works but
#670 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> Jack, do you need insturctions on how to do so?
#671 [13:29] <Jack> yes
#672 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_0d6exd smp/server-ip
#673 [13:29] <VoxelHead> mib_0d6exd: (smp/server-ip) Do not enter anything on the server-ip= line of the server.properties file. In nearly ALL cases, you want to leave it blank.
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#675 [13:29] <Selbram> I was voiced on November 28 by VoxelHead which I suspect was Scott or Morrolan
#676 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> Jack, Windows I presume?
#677 [13:30] <Jack> internet explorer
#678 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, you should now set up port forwarding
#679 [13:30] <Jack> yes
#680 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> Jack, ok
#681 [13:30] <mib_0d6exd> I opened the ports 25565 so could I connetc via normal ip
#682 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> ??> Jack win/.minecraft
#683 [13:30] <VoxelHead> Jack: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#684 [13:30] <Rat_Cat12> or in the address bar
#685 [13:30] <Jack> im confused
#686 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> Jack, please follow the instructions carefully
#687 [13:31] <Jack> yes
#688 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> !check mib_0d6exd
#689 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> doh?
#690 [13:31] <Jack> where is that
#691 [13:31] <mib_0d6exd> yea
#692 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> Jack, the Windows key?
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#694 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> !check p5DE810EE.dip.t-dialin.net
#695 [13:32] * Contex|Away is now known as Contex
#696 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, it looks like you have some port forwarding problems
#697 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, check that you're port forwarding (NOT port trigger) and has firewall turned off
#698 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, what is your router model?
#699 [13:32] <mib_0d6exd> i opened the ports also in my window firewall
#700 [13:33] * g is now known as gAway2002
#701 [13:33] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, what is your router model?
#702 [13:33] <mib_0d6exd> Sppedport W 921W
#703 [13:33] <mib_0d6exd> 921V*
#704 [13:33] <Jack> i am stuck where do i go
#705 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> Jack, which part are you stuck on?
#706 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, also turn off all security softwares to make sure they're not in the way
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#708 [13:34] <mib_0d6exd> ah yea
#709 [13:34] <mib_0d6exd> I think zonealarm blocks the ports :)
#710 [13:34] <mib_0d6exd> wait a minute
#711 [13:35] <Rat_Cat12> Jack open Windows Explorer (by opening any folder on your computer)
#712 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_0d6exd fubar/zonealarm
#713 [13:35] <VoxelHead> mib_0d6exd: (fubar/zonealarm) Don't use ZoneAlarm. It's bloated, resource-heavy software that does more harm than good, and in fact is known to cause problems with Minecraft specifically, such as connecting to servers and falling endlessly through the void, or even crashing servers entirely.
#714 [13:35] <VoxelHead> mib_0d6exd: (fubar/zonealarm) Official report thread about ZA-induce server crashes is here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_crashes_in_multiplayer_socketexception_if_firewa
#715 [13:36] <mib_0d6exd> !check mib_0d6exd
#716 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> !check p5DE810EE.dip.t-dialin.net
#717 [13:36] <Rat_Cat12> !
#718 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> nope mib_0d6exd
#719 [13:36] <Rat_Cat12> !check mc.nyancraft.com
#720 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, uninstall ZoneAlarm completely
#721 [13:37] <mib_0d6exd> why i should do that
#722 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_0d6exd fubar/zonealarm
#723 [13:37] <mib_0d6exd> Zonealarm is my antivirus
#724 [13:37] <VoxelHead> mib_0d6exd: (fubar/zonealarm) Don't use ZoneAlarm. It's bloated, resource-heavy software that does more harm than good, and in fact is known to cause problems with Minecraft specifically, such as connecting to servers and falling endlessly through the void, or even crashing servers entirely.
#725 [13:37] <VoxelHead> mib_0d6exd: (fubar/zonealarm) Official report thread about ZA-induce server crashes is here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_crashes_in_multiplayer_socketexception_if_firewa
#726 [13:37] <mib_0d6exd> You dont need to repeat it
#727 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, I felt that the message slipped
#728 [13:38] <mib_0d6exd> nope I already read that
#729 [13:38] <mattym> wait does the !check on your own name just resolve your ip for you and check the default port for a server?
#730 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> mattym, I believe not, from the examples you just saw
#731 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, in short, don't use ZoneAlarm as it conflicts with Minecraft
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#733 [13:39] <mib_0d6exd> hmm
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#735 [13:39] <mib_0d6exd> Which Antivirus should I use than
#736 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_0d6exd win/mse
#737 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, I recommend Avast! Antivirus
#738 [13:40] <VoxelHead> mib_0d6exd: (win/mse) Microsoft Security Essentials: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/security-essentials-download
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#740 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> Avast is also good
#741 [13:40] <mib_0d6exd> Microsoft Security Essentials should be installed on Win8 clear installation
#742 [13:41] <mib_0d6exd> So the own antivirus of microsoft is enough secruity
#743 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> mib_0d6exd, not necessarily true
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#747 [13:42] <Jackson> Pls help = I cannot access this game and have already paid for it!
#748 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> MSE is passably good, but not great. It is simple to install and maintain though, which is the main reason I still recommend it
#749 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> Jackson, when did you pay for it?
#750 [13:43] <Jackson> today
#751 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> Jackson: what happens when you try to download it?
#752 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti, 9% AV drop rate...
#753 [13:43] <Jackson> tells me I can't access Minecraft.net
#754 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: like I said: not great. Better than Notron or McAfee
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#756 [13:43] <mib_0d6exd> Ok my friends
#757 [13:43] <Jackson> I'm so frustrated
#758 [13:43] <mib_0d6exd> I will try it. give me some minutes
#759 [13:44] <Jackson> it keeps putting me in a loop and I get back to the same screen.
#760 [13:44] <Jackson> My mom tried helping me and she almost threw my computer!
#761 [13:45] <DopeGhoti> well, it sounds like for starters, your mom needs to calm down.
#762 [13:45] <DopeGhoti> can you go to www.minecraft.net in a web browser?
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#764 [13:45] <Jackson> Yes, I have IE 9
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#766 [13:45] <krebbit> Hello im back
#767 [13:46] <Jackson> I just clicked that link and it asks me to log in
#768 [13:46] <krebbit> My firefox closed and I got a new name
#769 [13:46] <DopeGhoti> Jackson: okay. can you log in?
#770 [13:46] <krebbit> Im the guy with zonealarm :)
#771 [13:46] <Jackson> Yes then it asks to be BUY NOW or play the demo
#772 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> okay. It could well be that your payment has not yet been fully processed.
#773 [13:47] <Jackson> BUt I already bought it
#774 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> ?? payment
#775 [13:47] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang don't process money directly from payments made, but accept payment them through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of these payments, your account will be credited with premium status. This may take a few hours, be patient.
#776 [13:47] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://is.gd/mc_activation
#777 [13:47] <Jackson> Ok! Thanks a lot!
#778 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> my pleasure
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#780 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> once your account's activated, happy crafting!
#781 [13:47] <mattym> Jackson when you are logging in are you using your username or the email you registered when you payed?
#782 [13:47] <Jackson> email
#783 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> mattym: if he were not using the proper credentials, the login would fail.
#784 [13:48] <mattym> then you may just need to wait
#785 [13:48] <Jackson> k
#786 [13:48] <Jackson> maybe the payment didn't go through right away
#787 [13:48] <krebbit> tztztz microsoft give me only 15 kbit brandwith to download mse
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#789 [13:49] <krebbit> !nick Leon
#790 [13:49] <krebbit> how can I change my nickname ?
#791 [13:49] <Jack> i knew what was wrong it was of the update
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#793 [13:49] <krebbit> !nickname Leon
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#795 [13:49] <krebbit> !change nick
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#798 [13:51] <oldtopman> krebbit: "/nick <newnick>"
#799 [13:51] <krebbit> ah :)
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#801 [13:51] <Leon> well
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#809 [14:00] <minecraft-12> when i try to start the demo it said that minecraft has crashed and it has saved an error report but i cant find the error report in my computer
#810 [14:01] <minecraft-12> what should i do
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#814 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> minecraft-12: for starters, be more patient.
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#835 [14:38] <Jack> is there any ip addresses
#836 [14:38] <Jack> ?
#837 [14:38] <Jack> ???
#838 [14:38] <Jack> ?????
#839 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> Jack: there are 4,228,250,625 IP addresses.
#840 [14:43] <Jack> can i have an ip for a server and i will help u
#841 [14:44] <Jack> if u have 1
#842 [14:45] <Jack> ok fine i have no one to play with*#
#843 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> I have several, but we don't asvertise r'ound these parts.
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#846 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> or advertise.
#847 [14:45] <Jack> just give me the server and i will help
#848 [14:45] <Jack> or dont
#849 [14:45] <Jack> whatever u want
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#851 [14:46] <Jack> bye
#852 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> ciao
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#855 [14:47] <Jack> i aint going i will just be afk
#856 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> thanks for sharing.
#857 [14:47] <Jack> what did i share
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#859 [14:47] <Jack> ??
#860 [14:48] <Suicidal_Speedy> How can I revert to 1.4.4 so I can join 2 servers I frequent?
#861 [14:48] <Jack> i am on 1.4.6
#862 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> ??> Suicidal_Speedy oldversion
#863 [14:48] <VoxelHead> Suicidal_Speedy: (oldversion) By now there are several ways to downgrade your version of Minecraft. Either use a tool like McNostalgia, use a backup of your own, or download the old Minecraft binaries provided by Mojang. See ?? oldversion/list for a list of available binaries.
#864 [14:48] <VoxelHead> Suicidal_Speedy: (oldversion) Please note that we do not support old versions.
#865 [14:49] <Jack> ?
#866 [14:49] <Jack> how do i get on a 146 server
#867 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> Jack: same way you get aon any other server.
#868 [14:50] <Jack> u need an ip
#869 [14:50] <Jack> ti dont have 1
#870 [14:50] <DiskDaemon> A domain name will also work
#871 [14:51] <Jack> what do u mean
#872 [14:51] <Jack> ok
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#874 [14:51] <DiskDaemon> I mean, coolminecraftserver.com
#875 [14:51] <DiskDaemon> Or variations thereof :)
#876 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> any peroper host name will work.
#877 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> host address, rather
#878 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> and FQDNs are proper host addresses.
#879 [14:52] <Jack> im going on it disk deamon
#880 [14:52] <Jack> it does not work
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#883 [14:53] <Jack> just a second
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#889 [15:06] <mohawk> Hey
#890 [15:07] <mohawk> !check mohawk
#891 [15:08] <mohawk> How can i check, if the port is open at this irc channel ?
#892 [15:09] <mohawk> !check ip68-104-171-151.ph
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#897 [15:12] <krebbit> !check p5DE810EE.dip.t-dialin.net
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#899 [15:15] <x5xPROx5x> i paid for minecraft but the stand alone wont download, i bought it a while ago
#900 [15:16] <sugoi> x5xPROx5x: you can download the standalone without having bought the game
#901 [15:16] <sugoi> that is the 'launcher'
#902 [15:16] <sugoi> when you run the launcher, and login with your creds, it'll install the game (that step works only for purchased accounts)
#903 [15:16] <x5xPROx5x> but when i dont have internet it doesnt let me log in
#904 [15:17] <sugoi> x5xPROx5x: so, the question is, waht is blocking the launcher from downloading
#905 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> x5xPROx5x: you need to log in at least once in order to play offline
#906 [15:17] <x5xPROx5x> i have logged in multiple time
#907 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> as sugoi states, logging in is what actually installed the game properly
#908 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> logging into the launcher; not the web site
#909 [15:17] <x5xPROx5x> yeah
#910 [15:17] <sugoi> then it is already installed
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#912 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> that was quick.
#913 [15:18] <sugoi> if you can't authenticate, it should give you the option to play offline
#914 [15:18] <sugoi> :/
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#916 [15:19] <x5xPROx5x> im trying to get ew worlds for my account but minecraft doesnt have a folder? it is paid for
#917 [15:19] <x5xPROx5x> ne*
#918 [15:19] <x5xPROx5x> new*
#919 [15:20] <sugoi> x5xPROx5x: you'll find your worlds in your install directory, are you on windows?
#920 [15:20] <x5xPROx5x> yes
#921 [15:20] <sugoi> hold the windows button, and press 'r', then release
#922 [15:20] <sugoi> the "Run" window should pop up
#923 [15:20] <sugoi> in that window, type %appdata% and press enter
#924 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> ??> x5xPROx5x win/.minecraft
#925 [15:20] <VoxelHead> x5xPROx5x: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#926 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> in the .minecraft folder, your worlds will go into a directory called 'saves'
#927 [15:21] <x5xPROx5x> thank you sooo much
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#929 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> \o
#930 [15:21] * sugoi takes credit
#930 [15:21] <sugoi> bc i typed more :P
#931 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> all that credit and $5 will get you most of a sanwich at Subway.
#932 [15:22] <sugoi> speaking of which, i'm hungry
#933 [15:22] * sugoi goes for a fork
#933 [15:23] * DopeGhoti offers peanut M&Ms
#933 [15:23] <sugoi> those are amazing
#934 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> little protien happy pills, they are.
#935 [15:24] <sugoi> heh :)
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#944 [15:41] <momo334455> whenever i login to minecraft the launcher sends me a login error when i login with my mojang account and i am a 100 % sure about my password
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#946 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> are you able to log in at https://account.mojang.com ?
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#949 [15:43] <momo334455> ya
#950 [15:43] <benja4040> ya
#951 [15:43] <momo334455> i am able to login
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#953 [15:44] <momo334455> any help guys?
#954 [15:44] <benja4040> Do you now how to play multiplayer in minecraft
#955 [15:44] <momo334455> no
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#957 [15:44] <momo334455> i think thats because my account is not premium
#958 [15:44] <benja4040> ko
#959 [15:44] <benja4040> ok
#960 [15:44] <momo334455> is that the problem?
#961 [15:44] <benja4040> ya
#962 [15:45] <momo334455> so i have to buy it so i could login properly?
#963 [15:45] <benja4040> I cant play on LAN with my brother
#964 [15:45] <benja4040> :D
#965 [15:46] <momo334455> i am asking a question i really need help :'(
#966 [15:46] <benja4040> ask
#967 [15:46] <momo334455> whenever i login to minecraft the launcher sends me a login error when i login with my mojang account and i am a 100 % sure about my password
#968 [15:47] <sugoi> momo334455: you didn't complete your sentence, really .. so it works to login into mojang?
#969 [15:47] <sugoi> momo334455: and in minecraft, are you using your email address or profile name?
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#971 [15:47] <momo334455> ya
#972 [15:47] <momo334455> but i am not premium
#973 [15:47] <sugoi> oh that's why
#974 [15:48] <sugoi> you can't log into the game until you own it
#975 [15:48] <momo334455> oh man!
#976 [15:48] <momo334455> i feel so derpy right now hhhhhh
#977 [15:48] <momo334455> anyhows thank you
#978 [15:48] <sugoi> momo334455: it'll be the best 25 bucks you ever spent
#979 [15:48] <momo334455> so it seems to be worth it
#980 [15:49] <momo334455> ...
#981 [15:49] <sugoi> i've played as much minecraft as i played ff3
#982 [15:49] <sugoi> and that...
#983 [15:50] <sugoi> well, it's an unnatural amount of time
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#985 [15:50] <momo334455> whts ff3?
#986 [15:50] <sugoi> final fantasy 3, SNES
#987 [15:50] <momo334455> WOW
#988 [15:50] <sugoi> technically ff6, but released in the us as 3
#989 [15:50] <momo334455> ok
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#991 [15:51] <momo334455> so can u tell me ur minecraft server so i can login to it
#992 [15:51] <sugoi> i beat the entire game (ff3) numerous times, finding best buidls
#993 [15:51] <sugoi> many tests taking over 100 hours :)
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#995 [15:52] <sugoi> momo334455: :) i host a rather private server, ~10 ppl that are all well acquainted, sorry
#996 [15:52] <sugoi> momo334455: but it is easy to find public servers
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#998 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> momo334455: also, you won't be able to anyhow until your account is active.
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#1002 [16:00] <Wolfeekijo8989898989898989> Hello
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#1005 [16:01] <Wolfee> I'm trying to host a server for me and my friend to play on but last time it said bad log in and this time its not even allowing me to log into it.
#1006 [16:01] <momo334455> its ok
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#1008 [16:01] <tyteen4a03> Wolfee, make sure your client's version is the same as your server's version
#1009 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> ?? error/badlogin
#1010 [16:01] <momo334455> ya
#1011 [16:01] <VoxelHead> error/badlogin: Failed to login: Bad login
#1012 [16:01] <VoxelHead> error/badlogin: This error message occurs when logging in to an smp server fails because the server was unable to verify the client's login info. Frequently caused by piracy, as the client will not have a valid login, but also caused if someone logs in with the same username from 2 clients at once. Be sure you purchased the game, and only run minecraft once at any time.
#1013 [16:01] <momo334455> i was about to say it
#1014 [16:01] <momo334455> hhhhhhh lol
#1015 [16:02] <Wolfee> How do I update my minecraft server exe?
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#1020 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> Wolfee: download a new copy
#1021 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> there's no built-in update mechanism like the client has.
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#1024 [16:09] <momo334455> +Wolfee it is automatically updated with the ersion of the server
#1025 [16:10] <momo334455> ok when sometimes i open a server it says something a bout javainternalsocketexeption
#1026 [16:10] <momo334455> what is this error and why does it come up
#1027 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? specific
#1028 [16:11] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1029 [16:11] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
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#1033 [16:17] <Ted`> Is anyone experienced with modloader
#1034 [16:21] <momo334455> what is it
#1035 [16:22] <Ted`> i'm having the blackscreen after deleting the mete.inf folder
#1036 [16:23] <Ted`> in the process of re-installing java.
#1037 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> Ted`: try removing all traces of any mods and seeing whether the problem persists.
#1038 [16:24] <Ted`> well see, that's the thing. I'm just starting to install things, and i read up that modloader was the first step.
#1039 [16:25] <Ted`> would I need to go back into the .jar and manually delete the .class file's i put into it?
#1040 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Force update. You're doing it wrong
#1041 [16:25] <Ted`> ah, i wasn't aware of that.
#1042 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> With modloader mods, you don't put in class files into the .jar anymore. Once you install modloader, then run minecraft, it'll create a /mods/ folder in .minecraft.
#1043 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> That's where you'll put in the appropriate mod's files.
#1044 [16:26] <Ted`> and if i'm wanting to play on a server that's runnin 1.4.5?
#1045 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> Ted`: then hope you had a backup handy of the old version
#1046 [16:26] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - Dropping mod_*.class files into the .jar is a thing of the past, then?
#1047 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - Depends on the mod.
#1048 [16:27] <Ted`> DopeGhoti: there's old MC versions on the site.
#1049 [16:27] <Ted`> and i didn't see an archived version of modloader for 1.4.5, so i went with the newest one. hence my issues.
#1050 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20629262/1.4.5/ModLoader.zip
#1051 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> Ted`: there are old MC versions on which site?
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#1053 [16:28] <Ted`> minecraft.net
#1054 [16:28] <Morrolan> http://www.mediafire.com/?jc2n88a51xdfd
#1055 [16:29] <Morrolan> One of those few dozen versions will be the one for 1.4.5, I'd say.
#1056 [16:29] <Ted`> Morrolan: i looked in there, unless i overlooked on?
#1057 [16:29] <Ted`> one*
#1058 [16:29] <SinZ> who uses modloader though... MinecraftForge is the way to go...
#1059 [16:29] <Morrolan> Ted` - Oh, maybe he didn't add it yet, considering that 1.4.6 is merely a day old.
#1060 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> the best mod is the Vanilla mod
#1061 [16:29] <SinZ> DopeGhoti: not a mod, but it is the best
#1062 [16:30] <SinZ> Morrolan: realisticly, 1.4.6 is atleast 5 days old
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#1064 [16:30] <Morrolan> SinZ - Yea, but considering that 1.4.6 went stable yesterday, he'll have replaced the main download link on his post yesterday, and not have moved the 1.4.5 file to that folder yet. ;)
#1065 [16:31] * GreyVulpine points to: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20629262/1.4.5/ModLoader.zip
#1065 [16:31] <SinZ> Morrolan: the term stable, is horrible, it was pushed to the launchers downloadserver yesterday
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#1070 [16:31] <SinZ> 1.4.6 wasn't altered since the pre-release of it
#1071 [16:31] <Morrolan> SinZ - So what.
#1072 [16:32] <SinZ> meaning the people of modloader had a week to update modloader for it, and put it on the website.
#1073 [16:32] <Morrolan> Yes.
#1074 [16:32] <Ted`> grey thank you for that dropbox.
#1075 [16:32] <Morrolan> Oh, god, what are you (and me) even arguing. Fact is, it's not in that mediafire folder yet.
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#1077 [16:36] <Wolfee> Anyone know how to fix this massive lag spike I get?
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#1079 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> Wolfee: that depends upon the cause.
#1080 [16:37] <Wolfee> I'll be playing fine for a while, then I'll get spurts of up to 5 seconds of just freezing. A second of movement then another 5 seconds.
#1081 [16:37] <DopeGhoti> I like how, a day later, an SMP server-crash bug is still unfixed in production.
#1082 [16:37] <DopeGhoti> Wolfee: sounds like the client swapping things out to virtual memory
#1083 [16:38] <Wolfee> Now it's not responding.. lol
#1084 [16:40] <Wolfee> So how do I fix it?
#1085 [16:40] <Wolfee> Cause its still doing it..
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#1094 [16:51] <Numi_> Hey everyone
#1095 [16:51] <benhunter09> ello
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#1097 [16:51] <Numi_> Is anyone else having issues with people connecting to their servers?
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#1100 [16:53] <Morrolan> Numi_ - Yes, that's those people which updated to 1.4.6, while your server is still at 1.4.5.
#1101 [16:54] <Numi_> I downloaded the new server from the site, started it in a new folder, dragged in the old world folder and properties file and .bat for more ram file
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#1103 [16:55] <Numi_> works for me when im on 1.4.6 but not for a friend trying to connect
#1104 [16:55] <Numi_> Anyone willing to try to connect to it to test it out?
#1105 [16:55] <zhoommv> I'll try it.
#1106 [16:55] <Morrolan> Numi_ - And that friend is on 1.4.6 too?
#1107 [16:55] <DreadLindwyrm> In that case, the server may be on 1.4.6, and your friend is on 1.4.5?
#1108 [16:56] <Numi_> nope i personally helped my friend update to the server
#1109 [16:56] <Numi_> i mean to 1.4.6
#1110 [16:56] <Ted`> well
#1111 [16:56] <Morrolan> And what error message does he, and do you in the console, see?
#1112 [16:56] <Ted`> got it to work.
#1113 [16:56] <Ted`> followed the instructions again, oh well.
#1114 [16:57] <Ted`> no idea what i did wrong first time. thank you GreyVulpine and DopeGhoti
#1115 [16:57] <Ted`> and Morrolan
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#1117 [16:57] <Numi_> i think it was like a server offline thing after polling
#1118 [16:58] <Morrolan> He can double-click it nevertheless, and it'll force a connection. If that succeeds - splendid. If not, he and you will see an error which might help further.
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#1121 [17:00] <Guest6821> hi everyone ! can someone help me ? i have some bug with feed the beats, on multiplayers,the game crashed at each login into the server :x
#1122 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> ??> Guest6821 mods
#1123 [17:00] <VoxelHead> Guest6821: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1124 [17:00] <VoxelHead> Guest6821: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1125 [17:00] <Guest6821> feed the beast
#1126 [17:00] * Chris|Detached is now known as Chris
#1127 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> We do not support Feed The Beast.
#1128 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Go ask for help in their forums
#1129 [17:01] <Guest6821> so you're useless
#1130 [17:01] <Guest6821> you sucks a lot
#1131 [17:01] <Guest6821> :x
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#1133 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Off you go then.
#1134 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> !k Guest6821
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#1136 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> For mod support? Yes, we are.
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#1139 [17:02] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#1140 [17:02] <Grim_Reaper> lold
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#1142 [17:02] <Morrolan> You're just trying to hit 1k kicks before the world ends. :<
#1143 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1144 [17:02] <Grim_Reaper> lol
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#1154 [17:13] <Narcissistfreak> I'm connect over our LAN and I am not able to connect to the game server. The game displays an IP address on the server computer of 0.0.0.0: Does anyone have any ideas
#1155 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> Narcissistfreak: what OS is your server running?
#1156 [17:14] <Narcissistfreak> windows 7
#1157 [17:14] <Limitless> What os is your running server?
#1158 [17:14] <Limitless> ninja'd
#1159 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> okay. Do you know what the internal IP address of the server is?
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#1161 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> (it will usually start with 192.168; or sometimes 10.0)
#1162 [17:15] <Narcissistfreak> I tried the actual ip address
#1163 [17:15] <Narcissistfreak> still timed out on connection
#1164 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> when you tried the actual IP, did you see anything on the server console / log ?
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#1166 [17:17] <Narcissistfreak> the actual ip address shows up as the server on the console, I've tried to connect by clicking on server and doing a direct connect
#1167 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> and when you tried the actual IP, what did you see on the server console / log ?
#1168 [17:18] <zhoommv> is there a way i can install a plugin like worldedit without having to host a server?
#1169 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> ??> zhoommv mods
#1170 [17:18] <VoxelHead> zhoommv: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1171 [17:18] <VoxelHead> zhoommv: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1173 [17:18] <Morrolan> zhoommv - WorldEdit has a singleplayer version. Or had, anyway.
#1174 [17:18] <zhoommv> Thanks, sorry I didn't know. :P
#1175 [17:19] <Morrolan> I believe it was somehow related to SPC (Singleplayer commands). Not sure if part of it, or an addition, or...
#1176 [17:19] <Morrolan> Google should help.
#1177 [17:19] <Narcissistfreak> it said it timed out trying to connect to the server. Is there log file the game creates
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#1179 [17:20] <Morrolan> Using what IP?
#1180 [17:21] <Narcissistfreak> 192.168.1.101
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#1182 [17:21] <Morrolan> Any security software on the hosting machine which might block it?
#1183 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> Narcissistfreak: have you confirmed that that is indeed the IP address of the server?
#1184 [17:22] <Narcissistfreak> yes
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#1186 [17:24] <Narcissistfreak> should the server computer show an ip address of 0.0.0.0 on chat log in the game; i thought this was weird
#1187 [17:25] <zhoommv> Narcissistfreak: no it should probably show your IP...
#1188 [17:25] <zhoommv> or wherever the server's behing hosted, that IP.
#1189 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> 0.0.0.0 as a bound address is somewhat normal; it means it's listening on all addresses on a machine with more than one NIC
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#1192 [17:32] <Narcissistfreak> we just had to turrn off the firewall on both coms
#1193 [17:33] <Narcissistfreak> thanks everyone for the help
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#1198 [17:40] <Geof> I need help getting onto my friends diffrent servers. For some reason they are not connecting. it says it cannot reach server on all of them. Now, I know for a fact that my friends servers are up and they are running
#1199 [17:40] <Geof> things i have already done include:
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#1202 [17:41] <Geof> restart computer , reinstall everything minecraft including the bin and all. Checking my router, and my internet connection is definitely up
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#1206 [17:42] <Geof> i dont know if this chat is working
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#1210 [17:43] <benhunter09> We can hear you
#1211 [17:44] <Geof> ok thanks. first time using this :)
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#1213 [17:45] <benhunter09> Ok, I'm not sure on what to do with your minecraft but someone else will be able to help you
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#1216 [17:46] <Geof> where do you suggest that the best area is for me to recieve said help?
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#1218 [17:46] <benhunter09> Wait here
#1219 [17:46] <Geof> ok
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#1227 [17:54] <Warfar> geof
#1228 [17:54] <Geof> yes
#1229 [17:54] <Warfar> they need to port forward
#1230 [17:54] <Warfar> 25565 tcp
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#1232 [17:55] <Geof> im not really computer savy in that sense
#1233 [17:55] <Geof> how would i do that?
#1234 [17:56] <SinZ> Geof: there is a website dedicated to port forwarding
#1235 [17:56] <SinZ> http://portforward.com
#1236 [17:56] <Geof> that should fix it?
#1237 [17:56] <Geof> I thank you for the link :)
#1238 [17:57] <SinZ> just dodge some of the ads, and you'll be fine
#1239 [17:59] <Geof> awesome, thank you
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#1245 [18:11] <Limitless> rating system melons
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#1247 [18:16] <Eddie> I got melons the size of...
#1248 [18:16] <Eddie> melons.
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#1253 [18:25] <damien> i bought minecraft with my paypay how do i play it when i go into the game the guy wont move
#1254 [18:26] <damien> paid with my paypal
#1255 [18:26] <tyteen4a03> damien, go to minecraft.net/download to download the game
#1256 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> damien: when you say 'the guy won't move', how are you trying to move?
#1257 [18:26] <tyteen4a03> oh
#1258 [18:27] * tyteen4a03 needs coffee
#1258 [18:27] <damien> not sure what button to press to move
#1259 [18:28] <damien> and the screen was like jumpy
#1260 [18:28] <SinZ> ??< index
#1261 [18:28] <SinZ> ??< virus
#1262 [18:28] <SinZ> ??< virus/avira
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#1264 [18:30] <damien> but i bought it from mojang paid 26.95
#1265 [18:30] <damien> what buttons do u use to move
#1266 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> damien: W, A, S, and D
#1267 [18:31] <SinZ> wasd
#1268 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> but that's configurable from the optons menu
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#1270 [18:31] <damien> ok thanks tried w a s d didnt work damit
#1271 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> damien: are you on a laptop?
#1272 [18:33] <damien> yes laptop
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#1274 [18:34] <damien> why u ask if on a laptop
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#1277 [18:36] <damien> dopeghoti why??
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#1280 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> damien: some laptops' mouse drivers will ignore the keyboard if the mouse is being used
#1281 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> check your computer's mouse driver properties for such a setting and disable it.
#1282 [18:39] <damien> ok
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#1284 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> ?? patience
#1285 [18:39] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1286 [18:39] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#1287 [18:39] <karl> hi
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#1289 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> karl: salutations
#1290 [18:39] <karl> ive got a question
#1291 [18:40] <karl> ive just bought minecraft and i cant play the game
#1292 [18:40] <karl> can some one please help me?
#1293 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> karl: it is possible your payment has not yet gone through.
#1294 [18:44] <karl> ok
#1295 [18:44] <karl> i get this error
#1296 [18:45] <karl> {"error":"Too many failed redemption attempts."}
#1297 [18:45] <karl> when i click the link in to my email
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#1301 [18:52] <karl> if you want i can give you the order id
#1302 [18:52] <payteemo> minecraft continues to freeze and tells me I am out of memory.
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#1310 [19:04] <NinjaKirby> Why can't Firefox just fudgin' cache some images properly, goodness me.
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#1312 [19:11] <NinjaKirby> The National Rifle Association in the USA wants "The good guys to be armed for absolute protection". Guns stored in schools, human-kinds halls of education? I don't think my facepalm is unjustified.
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#1319 [19:34] <SinZ> NinjaKirby: inorite
#1320 [19:34] <NinjaKirby> yarite
#1321 [19:34] <SinZ> With his logic, you basically need an armed guard for every person in america
#1322 [19:35] <SinZ> due to the cinema shooting, and the shopping mall shooting
#1323 [19:35] <NinjaKirby> And the School shooting, so depressing.
#1324 [19:35] <SinZ> and having an armed guard at every school wont lower the countrys national debt
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#1332 [20:01] <NM> How do i turn pvp off on a lan?
#1333 [20:03] <NM> on a LAN server how do i turn off PvP?
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#1339 [20:31] <Darko> I accidentally updated to 1.4.6 I need 1.4.5 help please.
#1340 [20:31] <NinjaKirby> I believe there is a third party utility called MCNostalgia that allows you to (legally) rollback your client to earlier versions.
#1341 [20:32] <Morrolan> There's easier ways, by now. :)
#1342 [20:32] <Morrolan> ?? oldversion/list
#1343 [20:32] <VoxelHead> oldversion/list: A partial list of all Minecraft binary files which are hosted publicly by Mojang can be found here: https://pastebin.com/gwrQrQL9
#1344 [20:32] <VoxelHead> oldversion/list: A much uglier, but up-to-date list can be found here: http://morrolan.ch/minecrafthelp/minecraft_assets.html
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#1346 [20:33] <NinjaKirby> Mojang don't mind so much these days eh?
#1347 [20:33] <Morrolan> Mojang offers the last few versions for download. Replace minecraft.jar in your .minecraft/bin folder with the one you can grab from the site above.
#1348 [20:33] <Morrolan> Yea.
#1349 [20:33] <Morrolan> Well, they obviously won't offer support for old versions, but apart from that, they made it much easier to downgrade. :)
#1350 [20:34] <Darko> can someone walk me through how to do it?
#1351 [20:34] <Morrolan> First, grab the 1.4.5 jar, and save it somewhere where you find it afterwards.
#1352 [20:34] <Morrolan> The second step depends on your operating system. Windows, Mac or Linux?
#1353 [20:35] <Darko> windows
#1354 [20:35] <Morrolan> ?? win/.minecraft
#1355 [20:35] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1356 [20:35] <Morrolan> In the folder which VoxelHead told you about, open the 'bin' folder. Replace the 'minecraft.jar' in that bin folder with the 'minecraft.jar' which you downloaded.
#1357 [20:35] <Darko> I want this one right 1_4_5/minecraft_server.jar?
#1358 [20:35] <vanjari> Hi, My compas broke! Is there any way to fix it? I built my house just a few blocks away from the spawn, so I've always followed the compas home, but just now I got lost in some caves and had to dig myself up to the surface rather than going my tunels back. When I got up I was in the midle of an ocean and nearly died but was able to survive. I started following my compas like always but
#1359 [20:35] <vanjari> it wasn't pointing to my spawn! Fortunately I've also built a tower to the sky so I was able to find it since I acctualy wasnt more than like aproximately 1000 blocks away from home, but still... how can my compas get broken and how may I fix it?
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#1361 [20:35] <Morrolan> Darko - Nope, not the server, the other one.
#1362 [20:36] <Darko> this one? 1_4_5/minecraft.jar
#1363 [20:36] <Morrolan> Darko - Yep.
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#1365 [20:37] <Morrolan> vanjari - Err. The compass points to spawn. So if it suddendly points somewhere else, your world's spawn location must have changed. Which normally means it got corrupted due to a power failure or similar.
#1366 [20:37] <Morrolan> vanjari - Alternatively it could mean that you're using a mod which fiddles with it. Or that there's a bug in Minecraft.
#1367 [20:38] <vanjari> havent been using any mods, and no power failure as of today.. had one a couple of days ago but the compas worked earlier today
#1368 [20:38] <Darko> do I go to bin after I get to .minecraft
#1369 [20:39] <Morrolan> Darko - Yes.
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#1371 [20:39] <Darko> delete minecraft in bin?
#1372 [20:39] <Darko> and paste the other one in?
#1373 [20:39] <Morrolan> Yes.
#1374 [20:39] <NM> Hoe do i turn pvp off on LAN?
#1375 [20:39] <NM> *How
#1376 [20:39] <Andrio> Get a real server.
#1377 [20:40] <NM> -_-
#1378 [20:41] <Morrolan> NM - You can disable it when using a standalone server, but not when using the share-to-lan functionality of the client. :)
#1379 [20:41] <vanjari> i noticed something strage though. one of the reasons why i almost drowned was because the game didn't show the bobles that usualy comes up when ur in water, so i asumed my head was over the water or something. I was also able to see very far in the water, almost like dusk in normal conditions above water
#1380 [20:41] <Darko> seeing if that worked for my friends
#1381 [20:42] <vanjari> so I saw all those octapuses as if they were on land and acctualy thought I'd come to some hidden world or something xD
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#1383 [20:43] <Morrolan> vanjari - Heh.
#1384 [20:43] <Morrolan> vanjari - You could open your world in an editor like MCEdit, and see whether spawn is still where it's supposed to be.
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#1386 [20:43] <Andrio> Apparently there's no /kick command on an open SP world either.
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#1388 [20:43] <Morrolan> Also, you could, well, die, and see whether you spawn where you should.
#1389 [20:44] <Morrolan> Maybe take a note of the coordinates of your house first, though. This way you'll be able to find it again.
#1390 [20:44] <J_> Hi, my minecraft will not let me log in or update even though i have my internet up.
#1391 [20:44] <vanjari> ill find my tower from where the compas was leading to i think xd
#1392 [20:45] <vanjari> dunno how to find cords or use editors
#1393 [20:45] <vanjari> am just playing x
#1394 [20:45] <vanjari> d
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#1396 [20:45] <J_> Does anyone have any suggestions on what i should do?
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#1398 [20:48] <Morrolan> vanjari - Pressing F3 will show x, y and z coordinates.
#1399 [20:48] <vanjari> oh
#1400 [20:49] <Darko> I need some more help
#1401 [20:49] <Darko> My friend is stuck on the done loading thing after he did that
#1402 [20:50] <vanjari> y is height, that one i knew but those other ive never cared about. let me climb my tower and die xd
#1403 [20:50] <Darko> please help :)
#1404 [20:51] <vanjari> morrolan , i spawned inside my house
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#1406 [20:51] <vanjari> lemme check the compas again
#1407 [20:51] <Morrolan> Darko - Something must have gotten corrupted, then. Make him do a force update (start the launcher -> force update -> log in as usual), then replace the .jar again.
#1408 [20:52] <vanjari> that seemed to have fixed the compas .. lol
#1409 [20:52] <vanjari> ok, all fine then
#1410 [20:52] <vanjari> all i needed to do was to die xd
#1411 [20:52] <Rob_> New player/purchaser. Downloaded 1.46 on my new notebook - video is all stuttery and i can't seem to move. Then went to my 2012 iMac, exact same issues. Help?
#1412 [20:53] <Rob_> Notebook is PC, too
#1413 [20:53] <vanjari> rob, is that when u spawn?
#1414 [20:53] <vanjari> just dig out the block under you
#1415 [20:53] <vanjari> and ur fine
#1416 [20:54] <vanjari> happens to me all the time aswell
#1417 [20:54] <vanjari> dont know why
#1418 [20:54] <Rob_> with the jittery screen too?
#1419 [20:54] <vanjari> ye
#1420 [20:54] <vanjari> its like ur jumping?
#1421 [20:55] <Rob_> No, it's like I drank too much coffee and my mouse is shaking
#1422 [20:55] <zhoommv> hehe, minecraft doesn't work so well on any sort of notebooks, I know from experience. loooooool
#1423 [20:55] <vanjari> yeye
#1424 [20:55] <vanjari> just try and dig out the block you stand on xd
#1425 [20:55] <Rob_> will do....
#1426 [20:55] <zhoommv> Rob_ is it like you ate rotten flesh and it made you dizzy or what?
#1427 [20:56] <vanjari> notebooks are fine. i play any games on mine with no issues
#1428 [20:56] <Andrio> ?
#1429 [20:57] <zhoommv> try playing minecraft on my Windows 7 Basic with 1 gb of ram no..
#1430 [20:57] <vanjari> lol thats not a notebook, thats a stone tablet
#1431 [20:58] <Rob_> you rule -should have come here two hours ago! Dug out the block, all is good. F--d up!
#1432 [20:58] <vanjari> lol ye i know xd
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#1434 [20:59] <Darko> Please help my friend is still just getting done loading..
#1435 [20:59] <Darko> He did what you said about force update and it still is saying that
#1436 [21:01] <Darko> what do you recommend we do?
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#1439 [21:08] <Morrolan> vanjari - Heh, what an odd issue. I'm glad your compass works again, though. :)
#1440 [21:09] <Morrolan> Darko - Have him come here, then one of the others will help him further. I for one am in dire need of sleep, it's ~03:10 here. G'night.
#1441 [21:10] <Darko> good night
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#1443 [21:12] <Darko> I guess we are going to give up :/
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#1455 [21:34] <BlargFace> Hello?
#1456 [21:35] <BlargFace> Is anyone here?
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#1458 [21:36] <tyteen4a03> !topic
#1459 [21:36] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: topic [ Rules: http://is.gd/zB1w9I- | For account issues see http://is.gd/mc_acct | Minecraft client & server are 1.4.6 | We do not support Classic, Pre-Releases, or old versions ] ... changed [ DopeGhoti | Fri Dec 21 10:59:53 MST 2012 ] ... undo [ yes ]
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#1475 [22:21] <dj> Hi, i have a question a bout my minecraft crashing alot.....i dont know alot about minecraft so can you go easy on me .....thanks
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#1477 [22:22] <dj> i someone there???
#1478 [22:22] <dj> ??
#1479 [22:22] <dj> ??
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#1482 [22:27] <dj> hi, i would like to ask a question a bout my minecraft crashing alot....goes easy on me i am a begginer.
#1483 [22:28] <dj> every time i go into my inventory and try to get out my minecraft says that it has crashed
#1484 [22:30] <Jdembo|Max> hm?
#1485 [22:30] <Jdembo|Max> Do you have any mods installed?
#1486 [22:31] <dj> what is a mod?
#1487 [22:31] <Jdembo|Max> modificication
#1488 [22:31] <Jdembo|Max> It edits/adds code to minecraft to change gameplay and such
#1489 [22:31] <Jdembo|Max> But, I take it you don't have any installed
#1490 [22:31] <Jdembo|Max> What java version are you using?
#1491 [22:32] <dj> is that like mojang or a different company like that?
#1492 [22:32] <Jdembo|Max> Java?
#1493 [22:32] <Jdembo|Max> Java is a coding language, and Minecraft is written in it
#1494 [22:33] <dj> english
#1495 [22:33] <dj> is that what a java is?
#1496 [22:33] <Jdembo|Max> haha
#1497 [22:33] <Jdembo|Max> http://javatester.org/version.html
#1498 [22:34] <Jdembo|Max> That will tell you what version of java you have
#1499 [22:35] <dj> ok thank you i will check real quick...one sec
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#1501 [22:38] <dj> its java version 1.6.-37 from Apple inc.
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#1503 [22:38] <NeedHelpNOW> Hi, i'm trying to change my email to another since my other email doesnt seem to be getting the verification emails for resetting my password. How come It says the change failed?
#1504 [22:39] <Jdembo|Max> Ah
#1505 [22:39] <Jdembo|Max> Download Java 7
#1506 [22:39] <dj> how do i do that?
#1507 [22:39] <Jdembo|Max> http://java.com/en/download/mac_download.jsp
#1508 [22:39] <dj> thank you so much
#1509 [22:39] <NeedHelpNOW> I think I already have, you see this is a new computer here so I have to re-download everything
#1510 [22:40] <Jdembo|Max> NeedHelpNOW: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/356879-mojang-accounts/articles
#1511 [22:40] <Jdembo|Max> Check that out ^^
#1512 [22:40] <Jdembo|Max> Np
#1513 [22:40] <NeedHelpNOW> I've already looked through that. What can i look at that can help me?
#1514 [22:40] <Jdembo|Max> dj : if that doesn't fix the problem, then come back and Ill see if I can help some more
#1515 [22:40] <dj> ok thank you
#1516 [22:41] <Jdembo|Max> Clear your cache and try again :P
#1517 [22:41] <Jdembo|Max> If nothing works, contact Customer Support
#1518 [22:42] <NeedHelpNOW> I'm really confused here. If I were to re-register for minecraft would I still have premium?
#1519 [22:44] <Jdembo|Max> You mean make a new account?
#1520 [22:44] <NeedHelpNOW> Yeah
#1521 [22:44] <Jdembo|Max> No, you would have to re-buy the game. If you were to contact customer support, they may be able to transfer premium
#1522 [22:44] <Jdembo|Max> but I'm not sure
#1523 [22:45] <NeedHelpNOW> How can i contact customer support right now
#1524 [22:45] <Jdembo|Max> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1525 [22:50] <Jdembo|Max> dj : Everything working?
#1526 [22:51] <dj> it is downloading now but whenit is all done i will let you know.....thank you for being so patient with me
#1527 [22:51] <Jdembo|Max> np
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#1530 [22:57] <dj> okay it hasnt changed any here is what it says...Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Updating screen events A full error report has been saved to /Users/cleojaton/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2012-12-21_21.56.02-client.txt - Please include a copy of that file (Not this screen!) if you report this crash to any
#1531 [22:57] <Jdembo|Max> Could you paste the full report to www.pastebin.com ?
#1532 [22:57] <Jdembo|Max> Please
#1533 [22:57] <Jdembo|Max> And then send me the link
#1534 [22:57] <Jdembo|Max> That way I can take a look at it
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#1538 [23:00] <dj> who do i send it to
#1539 [23:01] <Jdembo|Max> Paste the link here
#1540 [23:01] <Jdembo|Max> or, click my name
#1541 [23:01] <Jdembo|Max> and it should open up a private chat
#1542 [23:01] <dj> ok
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#1544 [23:03] <dj> i have poted it on paste bin
#1545 [23:03] <Jdembo|Max> Alright, now save the paste bin
#1546 [23:03] <Jdembo|Max> and send me the link :)
#1547 [23:03] <dj> http://pastebin.com/8tpG9JR6
#1548 [23:04] <Jdembo|Max> Thanks
#1549 [23:04] <dj> yep
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#1551 [23:04] <Jdembo|Max> You didn't update Java
#1552 [23:04] <Jdembo|Max> Did you run the .dmg file?
#1553 [23:05] <dj> oh no i didnt do that let me try that real quick
#1554 [23:05] <Jdembo|Max> xD
#1555 [23:05] <Jdembo|Max> Alright
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#1557 [23:05] <mattym> update jave and real quick should never be used in the same sentance
#1558 [23:06] <dj> ok let me update it now
#1559 [23:07] <Jdembo|Max> haha
#1560 [23:07] <Jdembo|Max> It updates quickly for me
#1561 [23:07] <Jdembo|Max> And they weren't in the same sentence
#1562 [23:07] <mattym> close enough
#1563 [23:08] <mattym> and yeah minor updates are fairly quick
#1564 [23:08] <mattym> a full version update done properly is nothing of the sort
#1565 [23:09] <Jdembo|Max> Quick for me
#1566 [23:14] <Jdembo|Max> brb
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#1572 [23:19] <Trevolock> Hey
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#1575 [23:19] <Trevolock> Hello??
#1576 [23:19] <Trevolock> Well k
#1577 [23:19] <mattym> hello
#1578 [23:19] <Trevolock> This is for help right?
#1579 [23:20] <mattym> yeah
#1580 [23:20] <Trevolock> Well, pretty much I just got Minecraft. Im expierencing like my fps dropping to 0 and I dont know why
#1581 [23:20] <Jdembo|Max> back
#1582 [23:20] <mattym> most often this is a graphical issue
#1583 [23:21] <mattym> in your video settings try using a distance less than "Far"
#1584 [23:21] <Jdembo|Max> Trevolock, do you have any mods installed?
#1585 [23:21] <Trevolock> No mods
#1586 [23:21] <Trevolock> I use normal render
#1587 [23:21] <Jdembo|Max> Try using Optifine
#1588 [23:21] <Trevolock> Optifine?\
#1589 [23:21] <Jdembo|Max> Its a mod which is known to boost FPS and add more options to change your graphics
#1590 [23:21] <Jdembo|Max> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-146-optifine-hd-a2-fps-boost-hd-textures-aa-af-and-much-more/
#1591 [23:21] <Trevolock> Well. I am on Windows 8
#1592 [23:22] <mattym> that could also be your issue
#1593 [23:22] <Trevolock> crap
#1594 [23:22] <Jdembo|Max> oh
#1595 [23:22] <mattym> did you upgrade your computer to Win8 or did you get a new computer that had it
#1596 [23:22] <Trevolock> Well my graphics are on Fancy, Smooth Lighting is enabled, uhhhh Particles is minimal. Um I got a new computer that had it
#1597 [23:23] <Jdembo|Max> well, play around with everything
#1598 [23:23] <Jdembo|Max> Make your graphics fast
#1599 [23:23] <mattym> well the first thing i would try is turning graphics to Fast, and also make sure minecraft is the only thing running
#1600 [23:23] <Jdembo|Max> try using short render distance
#1601 [23:23] <Jdembo|Max> etc.
#1602 [23:24] <mattym> see if that helps then come back if your still having issues
#1603 [23:24] <Trevolock> Even if I change or mess around with settings. I go from like 130 or so fps to 0
#1604 [23:24] <Trevolock> Instantly
#1605 [23:24] <Jdembo|Max> hm
#1606 [23:24] <Jdembo|Max> Let me pull up a link real quick
#1607 [23:24] <mattym> you may want to try installing a 64bit version of java
#1608 [23:24] <Trevolock> WE;;
#1609 [23:24] <Trevolock> Well
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#1611 [23:24] <Trevolock> Ive got 32 bit
#1612 [23:25] <mattym> that helped someone who had this issue yesterday
#1613 [23:25] <Jdembo|Max> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/
#1614 [23:25] <Jdembo|Max> Its a common issue, mattym
#1615 [23:25] <Jdembo|Max> caused by multiple things
#1616 [23:25] <Jdembo|Max> What are you computer specs?
#1617 [23:25] <mattym> well the person who had a similar setup yesterday fixed it with the java version change
#1618 [23:26] <Jdembo|Max> Worth a shot
#1619 [23:28] <Trevolock> How do I change my Java version?
#1620 [23:29] <Jdembo|Max> Download a new version of Java
#1621 [23:29] <Jdembo|Max> and it should automatically override the current version
#1622 [23:29] <Trevolock> I have the newest I believe
#1623 [23:29] <Trevolock> Yeah I just downloaded it today
#1624 [23:29] <mattym> you need to go to the oracle website and download the 64-bit one
#1625 [23:30] <mattym> you usually have to specify that you want that one
#1626 [23:30] <Trevolock> I guess give me a link
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#1628 [23:30] <Trevolock> Like idk. At one point i was around 200 fps, then boom 0 fps.
#1629 [23:30] <Trevolock> Locked up for a good 5 mins
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