#1 [00:00] <cestislife> Do you have java installed?
#2 [00:00] <dee> forceupdate done and still says that log in failed :(
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#5 [00:01] <mary50> was java question for me?
#6 [00:02] <cestislife> Yes mary.
#7 [00:02] <mary50> I will check that. thx
#8 [00:03] <dee> any other suggestions for me? ive done the forceupdate
#9 [00:03] <cestislife> dee, I can only think that it might be a server problem on Amazon's end.
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#11 [00:04] <dee> okay but what do i do now ? i paid for this game but minecraft doesnt let me log in?
#12 [00:04] <dee> who can i contact for help.?
#13 [00:04] <cestislife> This is the online support.
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#15 [00:05] <cestislife> Did you try connecting with a different computer?
#16 [00:05] <dee> my payment was successful
#17 [00:06] <cestislife> Mary50, for reference, the launcher looks like this http://i.imgur.com/kkyS5.png
#18 [00:06] <cestislife> dee, I am trying my best to Google for similar problems faced by you by other people.
#19 [00:07] <cestislife> What exactly is the error? "Login Failed"?
#20 [00:11] <dee> after i download Minecraft.exe it ask for another log in and i type the mojang email and password again and it gives me error "login failed"
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#22 [00:13] <cestislife> When did you purchase the game?
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#30 [00:17] <Carrie> I cannot get this game to work and I don't know why
#31 [00:17] <cestislife> Care to elaborate more Carrie?
#32 [00:18] <Carrie> Well I had a hard time even paying for it...lol...but finally got that part done. Now when I sign in all I get is a black screen
#33 [00:18] <cestislife> No crash, no anything?
#34 [00:18] <Carrie> Also no icon on my desktop
#35 [00:18] <cestislife> Uh, how odd.
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#37 [00:18] <Carrie> Nothing...it's just black
#38 [00:18] <cestislife> ??> Carrie dxdiag
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#40 [00:19] <cestislife> ??> Carrie win/dxdiag
#41 [00:19] <VoxelHead> Carrie: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#42 [00:19] <VoxelHead> Carrie: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#43 [00:19] <cestislife> Please do as VoxelHead says to see if you have a compatible graphics card.
#44 [00:19] <tommy71394> Eh hi, just a really really reaaaalllyyy pointless, if Youtube says you have no right to post Minecraft video, what do you use as proof to show them you has rights?
#45 [00:20] <tommy71394> have* pointless question*
#46 [00:20] <cestislife> You have rights to post minecraft videos, but not under the official minecraft name..
#47 [00:20] <tommy71394> Huh? Come again?
#48 [00:20] <cestislife> Title.
#49 [00:21] <cestislife> The video title should include more than Minecraft.
#50 [00:21] <tommy71394> Title..?
#51 [00:21] <cestislife> Eg, Minecraft - Let's Play, etc.
#52 [00:21] <cestislife> Or something other than Minecraft in the title.
#53 [00:21] <tommy71394> I did put Minecraft Mods 1.1: blah blah blah
#54 [00:21] <cestislife> Youtube does that automatically, IIRC.
#55 [00:21] <cestislife> Odd.
#56 [00:21] <cestislife> Contact YouTube about that, we cannot do anything.
#57 [00:22] <tommy71394> @@ Okay
#58 [00:22] <tommy71394> Thanks.
#59 [00:23] <Carrie> ok hit submit on that website but dont know what to do next
#60 [00:24] <cestislife> Post the url here.
#61 [00:25] <Carrie> forgive me but do you mean the info in one of the boxes on the page or the web addy?
#62 [00:25] <cestislife> The web address
#63 [00:25] <Carrie> http://pastebin.com/E0c1sG4u
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#65 [00:27] <cestislife> ??> Carrie gpu/intel
#66 [00:27] <VoxelHead> Carrie: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#67 [00:27] <cestislife> Here if you cannot find them
#68 [00:27] <cestislife> http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect/graphics
#69 [00:27] <cestislife> Update your drivers and see if that works
#70 [00:29] <Carrie> This is what it says....A customized computer manufacturer driver is installed on your computer. The Intel Driver Update Utility is not able to update the driver. Installing a generic Intel driver instead of the customized computer manufacturer driver may cause technical issues. Contact your computer manufacturer for the latest driver for your computer.
#71 [00:29] <cestislife> Hold on.
#72 [00:32] <Carrie> It's like it doesn't download onto my computer. If I go to programs it isn't in there
#73 [00:33] <cestislife> Im trying to locate the driver from Toshiba.
#74 [00:37] <cestislife> Download this and install Carrie
#75 [00:37] <cestislife> http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/support/downloads/driver_video_intel_27117D.exe
#76 [00:37] <Carrie> ok
#77 [00:40] <Carrie> it says my computer does not meet the minimum requirements
#78 [00:40] <cestislife> Thats odd.
#79 [00:40] <cestislife> That is the actual driver from Toshiba itself.
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#86 [01:10] <Pbpredator> Having some trouble with my linux server. can some one help me?
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#88 [01:10] <Pbpredator> Anyone around?
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#90 [01:21] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, what do you need?
#91 [01:24] <Pbpredator> My server is failing to launch
#92 [01:24] <Pbpredator> i cant remember the site to upload the error to to send
#93 [01:24] <Pbpredator> without flooding the irc
#94 [01:26] <Pbpredator> tyteen4a03 still there?
#95 [01:27] <TheNoodle> http://pastebin.com
#96 [01:28] <Pbpredator> yes
#97 [01:28] <Pbpredator> thanks
#98 [01:28] <Pbpredator> lemme get the error
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#101 [01:29] <Pbpredator> http://pastebin.com/H0MDzTcy
#102 [01:30] <Bugboy1028> ??> Po scold/pm
#103 [01:30] <VoxelHead> Po: (scold/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#104 [01:31] <Bugboy1028> ??> Polis_fun_ scold/pm
#105 [01:31] <VoxelHead> Polis_fun_: (scold/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#106 [01:31] <Pbpredator> fresh installation of debian squeeze. Apt-get update'd then Apt-get the minecraft_server.jar then I transferred my previous world over, using WINSCP
#107 [01:32] <Pbpredator> first startup of the server worked fine
#108 [01:32] <Pbpredator> now after transferring over my old world
#109 [01:32] <Pbpredator> wont run
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#111 [01:34] <Pbpredator> any idea tyteen4a03 ?
#112 [01:34] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, oops
#113 [01:34] <Pbpredator> rebooting real quick
#114 [01:34] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, try backing up the level.dat, then remove it
#115 [01:35] <Pbpredator> as it delete it?
#116 [01:35] <tyteen4a03> or alternatively open it and change the newline setting to UNIX
#117 [01:35] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, backup and delete, yes
#118 [01:35] <Pbpredator> is it because the previous version was running on a non 64 bit version?
#119 [01:35] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, no
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#121 [01:36] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, uh, ignore what I said about newline, just backup the level.dat and delete it
#122 [01:36] <tyteen4a03> see what happen
#123 [01:37] <Pbpredator> alright one sec
#124 [01:37] <Pbpredator> backing up the enitre world so i can move my old world over
#125 [01:38] <Pbpredator> and then ill delete the level.dat
#126 [01:39] <Pbpredator> alright
#127 [01:39] <Pbpredator> do these other two have anything to do with it either?
#128 [01:40] <Pbpredator> level.dat_mcr
#129 [01:40] <Pbpredator> level.dat_old ?
#130 [01:40] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, you can safely delete these 2
#131 [01:40] <Pbpredator> so delete all three?
#132 [01:41] <Pbpredator> level.dat and the other two there?
#133 [01:41] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, backup level.dat, delete all 3
#134 [01:41] <Pbpredator> alrighty
#135 [01:41] <Pbpredator> then launch the server?
#136 [01:41] <tyteen4a03> yes
#137 [01:42] <Pbpredator> failed again
#138 [01:42] <Pbpredator> sec lemme send
#139 [01:42] <tyteen4a03> put the level.dat back
#140 [01:44] <Pbpredator> here was the last
#141 [01:44] <Pbpredator> http://pastebin.com/7NhUmNBh
#142 [01:44] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, is there a session.lock file?
#143 [01:45] <Pbpredator> yeah
#144 [01:45] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, delete it
#145 [01:45] <Pbpredator> alright
#146 [01:45] <Pbpredator> then relaunch?
#147 [01:45] <tyteen4a03> yes
#148 [01:45] <Pbpredator> failed again
#149 [01:45] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, same error?
#150 [01:47] <Pbpredator> http://pastebin.com/Zz1fd7HE
#151 [01:47] <Pbpredator> looks the same?
#152 [01:47] <Pbpredator> should I
#153 [01:47] <Pbpredator> remove my saved world
#154 [01:47] <Pbpredator> rm the whole dir
#155 [01:47] <Pbpredator> then re apt-get?
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#158 [01:48] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, if you run java as sudo does it work properly?
#159 [01:48] <jester_8564> i need some help with a texture pack, sphax, whats the past way to patch it without having to re-install my mods? please pm me
#160 [01:48] <Pbpredator> ill try
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#162 [01:49] <Pbpredator> huh
#163 [01:49] <Pbpredator> yeah
#164 [01:49] <tyteen4a03> jester_8564, we do not support texture packs, but usually replacing the texture pack in the texturepack folder works
#165 [01:49] <Pbpredator> think that did the trick
#166 [01:49] <Pbpredator> wtf
#167 [01:49] <DJ117> installed minecraft again today and it still will not work on my old save file?
#168 [01:49] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, make sure the folder's file has sufficient privilleges
#169 [01:49] <Dakidsyoo> Guys, My minecraft freezes when I join a certain server, and other people have had this problem, but have not posted a direct solution. Can you please help me?
#170 [01:49] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, usually 755
#171 [01:50] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, could be a server mod
#172 [01:50] <Dakidsyoo> The server is vanilla.
#173 [01:50] <Dakidsyoo> So is my minecraft.
#174 [01:50] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, any errors on the server console?
#175 [01:50] <Dakidsyoo> None
#176 [01:50] <tyteen4a03> (OK, it seems like I will not be leaving on time)
#177 [01:50] <Pbpredator> i think i chown to 777
#178 [01:50] <Dakidsyoo> it doesnt print out any logs or anything
#179 [01:50] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, IP please?
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#181 [01:50] <Dakidsyoo> ok.
#182 [01:50] <Pbpredator> its working fine now tyteen4a03
#183 [01:50] <Pbpredator> thanks a million!
#184 [01:51] <tyteen4a03> Pbpredator, no problem
#185 [01:51] <DJ117> i need help minecraft save file is not working it just crashes
#186 [01:51] <Dakidsyoo> 96.8.117.54:25579
#187 [01:51] <Dakidsyoo> you should be able to connect
#188 [01:51] <tyteen4a03> !check 96.8.117.54:25579
#189 [01:51] <Dakidsyoo> I can join other multiplayer servers, and play singleplayer, but not that one server
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#191 [01:52] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, by freezing I assume there are no error messages shown to the client?
#192 [01:52] <DJ117> Help, minecraft crashes each time i try to open a save file
#193 [01:52] <Dakidsyoo> Correct.
#194 [01:52] <tyteen4a03> DJ117, any mods installed?
#195 [01:52] <DJ117> nope!
#196 [01:52] <tyteen4a03> ??> DJ117 mcedit
#197 [01:52] <VoxelHead> DJ117: (mcedit) https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#198 [01:52] <tyteen4a03> DJ117, run mcedit against the world
#199 [01:53] <Dakidsyoo> When I get on the server, minecraft jumps to 50% cpu usage
#200 [01:53] <DJ117> ok
#201 [01:53] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, do you know how to tracert?
#202 [01:53] <Dakidsyoo> No, I don't.
#203 [01:53] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, hmm, let's try something else first
#204 [01:53] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, Java 6 or 7?
#205 [01:53] <Dakidsyoo> Idk, let me check
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#207 [01:54] <Dakidsyoo> Im pretty sure 6
#208 [01:54] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, open a command prompt, and type in this command
#209 [01:54] <tyteen4a03> tracert 96.8.117.54\
#210 [01:54] <tyteen4a03> uh
#211 [01:54] <tyteen4a03> tracert 96.8.117.54
#212 [01:55] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, wait for it to run, then paste the results on pastebin.com
#213 [01:55] <Dakidsyoo> Ok
#214 [01:55] <DJ117> tyteen403 i had a moded minecraft and that was the save file i had on it then i put it into the new minecraft account and it says something about screen resolution event thing and has a crash report?
#215 [01:55] <tyteen4a03> DJ117, find the crash report, copy it onto pastebin.com, then give us the pastebin link
#216 [01:56] <DJ117> ok will do hold on a second
#217 [01:57] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, from here the connection looks really unstable
#218 [01:57] <Dakidsyoo> Really?
#219 [01:57] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, yes
#220 [01:57] <tyteen4a03> !check 96.8.117.54:25579
#221 [01:57] <DJ117> tyteen4a03 here is the link http://pastebin.com/7a3NXx2A
#222 [01:57] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, have you been able to connect to it?
#223 [01:58] <tyteen4a03> DJ117, Windows I presume?
#224 [01:58] <DJ117> windows 8
#225 [01:58] <Dakidsyoo> The server? Yes. It worked fine, but then it started freezing.
#226 [01:58] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, so you were able to connect and play normally before on the same computer?
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#228 [01:58] <Dakidsyoo> yes
#229 [01:58] <tyteen4a03> ??> DJ117 win/.minecraft
#230 [01:58] <VoxelHead> DJ117: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#231 [01:59] <Dakidsyoo> How do I copy from the command window
#232 [01:59] <tyteen4a03> DJ117, from there, go to the saves folder, find your world, and delete the session.lock fikle
#233 [01:59] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, right click, Select, select everything and press Enter
#234 [01:59] <DJ117> yeah i know where it is in app data but the old save file from the moded minecrat looks no different to the normal one
#235 [02:00] <DJ117> ok ill look for it
#236 [02:00] <DJ117> done now what?
#237 [02:00] <Dakidsyoo> http://pastebin.com/h5NYQfKp
#238 [02:00] <tyteen4a03> DJ117, try again
#239 [02:01] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, yeah, jumpy connection
#240 [02:01] <Dakidsyoo> Is there any way to fix that?
#241 [02:01] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, I'm not sure actually
#242 [02:01] <Dakidsyoo> I can understand why, but it worked well before
#243 [02:01] <Dakidsyoo> It is in canada
#244 [02:01] <Dakidsyoo> and im in texas, so thats probably why
#245 [02:01] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, Minecraft could be retrying the connection too much
#246 [02:01] <Dakidsyoo> But I always play on their servers
#247 [02:01] <tyteen4a03> but otherwise I have no idea
#248 [02:01] <Dakidsyoo> Ahh
#249 [02:02] <Dakidsyoo> Do you have anything in mind that can help at all?
#250 [02:02] <DJ117> tyteen its completely broken lack sky and nothing else just a block in hand and cant move but hey thats progress
#251 [02:02] <DJ117> thanks
#252 [02:02] <tyteen4a03> DJ117, again, run MCEdit and use the Fix World tool in it
#253 [02:02] <tyteen4a03> Dakidsyoo, not that I can think of currently
#254 [02:02] <Dakidsyoo> Ok.
#255 [02:03] <Dakidsyoo> Thanks for your time.
#256 [02:03] <DJ117> ok will try
#257 [02:03] <tyteen4a03> No problem
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#259 [02:06] <WafflesNCyanide> Hey Guys! I have a quick question. I want to host a server for my friends and i But i would like to have Thaumcraft and Mystcraft along with the other Tekkit mods (with the possible exception of EE) Is that possible?
#260 [02:06] <DJ117> tyteen cant see a fix world tool anywhere
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#263 [02:06] <Spacemagik> hello
#264 [02:07] <tyteen4a03> ??> WafflesNCyanide mods
#265 [02:07] <VoxelHead> WafflesNCyanide: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#266 [02:07] <VoxelHead> WafflesNCyanide: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#267 [02:07] <tyteen4a03> Bugboy1028, you here?
#268 [02:07] <Spacemagik> My sound keeps cutting out anywhere from 5 seconds to 10 minutes after playing minecraft. first time playing and its really frustrating me.
#269 [02:07] <DJ117> tyteen4a03 cant find fix world tool
#270 [02:08] <Spacemagik> any ideas?
#271 [02:08] <tyteen4a03> ??< mcedit
#272 [02:10] <WafflesNCyanide> Thank you Voxel, I wasnt sure where to start heh. I'll check those places
#273 [02:11] <Dakidsyoo> Quick question ty, would restarting the server possibly help?
#274 [02:11] <DJ117> <tyteen4a03> cant find fix world tool and when i load my save file it says error permission denied and if i try it again it says error crashed
#275 [02:11] <Spacemagik> im in singleplayer trying to resolve the issue
#276 [02:12] <tyteen4a03> ugh, Spacemagik and DJ117, can you come back later? I really have to go
#277 [02:12] <tyteen4a03> I'm sorry
#278 [02:12] <DJ117> all good bro thanks for the help and your time
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#284 [02:14] <Spacemagik> anyone else have any ideas?
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#287 [02:16] <Bugboy1028> yes tyteen4a03 ?
#288 [02:16] <Bugboy1028> Meh!
#289 [02:17] <Bugboy1028> I wasn't here on itme
#290 [02:17] <Bugboy1028> Sorrrrrrrrry :(
#291 [02:17] <tyteen4a03> Bugboy1028, please take over for me
#292 [02:17] <Bugboy1028> tyteen4a03, I will try my best
#293 [02:17] <tyteen4a03> thank you
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#303 [02:42] <cederwood> hey, i get this message when i try to play my recently bought minecraft: http://pastebin.com/dAYvXWfD
#304 [02:42] <VoxelHead> cederwood: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#305 [02:42] <VoxelHead> cederwood: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#308 [02:47] <cederwood> http://pastebin.com/rzJUYDqb
#309 [02:48] <cederwood> and?
#310 [02:48] <cederwood> what should i do?
#311 [02:50] <cederwood> ???
#312 [02:50] <cestislife> Hold on.
#313 [02:52] <cestislife> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16835&lang=eng
#314 [02:52] <cestislife> Download and install this.
#315 [02:53] <cestislife> If that doesn't work, find your latest drivers, here: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect/graphics
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#317 [02:54] <naino> hey guys
#318 [02:54] <naino> i need help about minecraft black screen
#319 [02:54] <cestislife> Hello naino
#320 [02:54] <naino> i installed 3-4 mods and it goes black
#321 [02:54] <cederwood> i get this: Product Detected Intel® 945G Current Driver Installed 6.14.10.4396 A customized computer manufacturer driver is installed on your computer. The Intel Driver Update Utility is not able to update the driver. Installing a generic Intel driver instead of the customized computer manufacturer driver may cause technical issues. Contact your computer manufacturer for the latest driver for your computer.
#322 [02:55] <cestislife> Hold on cederwood.
#323 [02:55] <cestislife> ??> naino mods
#324 [02:55] <VoxelHead> naino: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#325 [02:55] <VoxelHead> naino: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#326 [02:55] <naino> optifine , not enough items, tree capitator , rei minimap all 1.4.6
#327 [02:55] <naino> all forge
#328 [02:56] <cestislife> naino, we do not support mods here.
#329 [02:56] <cestislife> Post your problem in the Modded Support section of the forums.
#330 [02:56] <naino> isnt this minecraft help
#331 [02:56] <naino> i get a black screen
#332 [02:56] <cestislife> This is Vanilla Minecraft help
#333 [02:56] <cestislife> Please post your problem here : http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/196-modded-client-support/
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#335 [02:59] <cestislife> cederwood, try this : http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=ca&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=472277&prodNameId=472259&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=13&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=vc-55316-1
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#339 [03:02] <cederwood> it says the same thing as the intel thing: the driver program that is being installed is not validated for this pc. Ask the manufactorer of the pc for the correct driver program. the installation is shut down
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#341 [03:03] <cestislife> Impossible, that is directly from your manufacturer, HP itself.
#342 [03:03] <cederwood> it says it
#343 [03:04] <cestislife> Then I do not know how else I can help you cederwood.
#344 [03:04] <cederwood> :-(
#345 [03:04] <cestislife> But let's not give up hope shall we.
#346 [03:04] <cederwood> noooooooo
#347 [03:04] <cestislife> Is "My Computer" on your desktop?
#348 [03:04] <xRein> What should i do if i got "too many failed redemtion attempts" from failing free offers too much, then bought my own, but that message still appears, what should i do
#349 [03:05] <cestislife> Im sorry, free offers xRein?
#350 [03:05] <cestislife> What do you mean?
#351 [03:05] <cederwood> yeah, my computer is on my desktop
#352 [03:05] <xRein> those random sites that says they'll give out free redemtion codes
#353 [03:05] <cestislife> Right click it
#354 [03:05] <cestislife> xRein, those are illegal.
#355 [03:06] <Scott> They're not illegal… They're just scams.
#356 [03:06] <cestislife> Do you see "manage"
#357 [03:06] <cestislife> Scams are indirectly illegal.
#358 [03:06] <xRein> wells, bought my own in the end, but wont wont let me create a game profile
#359 [03:06] <cestislife> But blah.
#360 [03:06] <Scott> xRein: Those sites just trick you into clicking their ads.
#361 [03:07] <xRein> any idea what i should do?
#362 [03:07] <cestislife> Did you create a mojang account?
#363 [03:07] <xRein> yea
#364 [03:08] <cederwood> i see system tasks, is that it?
#365 [03:08] <cestislife> Hold on cederwood
#366 [03:09] <Bugboy1028> ??< scam
#367 [03:09] <cestislife> ?? scam
#368 [03:09] <VoxelHead> scam: If you bought a gift code from anywhere but minecraft.net, it's quite likely a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#369 [03:09] <VoxelHead> scam: DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
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#371 [03:10] <cestislife> cederwood
#372 [03:10] <cestislife> Click Start, and then click Control Panel. Click Performance and Maintenance, click Administrative Tools, and then double-click Computer Management.
#373 [03:11] <cederwood> ((i have to translate evry thing from dutch to english)
#374 [03:12] <cestislife> Hold on.
#375 [03:14] <cestislife> This should help
#376 [03:14] <cestislife> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308423/nl
#377 [03:16] <cederwood> okay, got computer managment open
#378 [03:17] <cederwood> and now
#379 [03:17] <cestislife> Do you see Device Manager?
#380 [03:17] <cestislife> It's Apparaatbeheer I think
#381 [03:18] <cederwood> hahaha
#382 [03:18] <cestislife> :P
#383 [03:18] <cederwood> yes, i got it
#384 [03:19] <cestislife> Do you see Display adapters?
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#386 [03:19] <cestislife> It's under disk drives
#387 [03:20] <cederwood> yeah got it
#388 [03:21] <cestislife> Do you see Intel .... ?
#389 [03:22] <cederwood> it says Intel (R) 82945G Express chipset family twice
#390 [03:22] <cestislife> Double click one of them
#391 [03:23] <cederwood> yes
#392 [03:23] <cestislife> You should see a popup
#393 [03:23] <cestislife> click on "Driver"
#394 [03:23] <cestislife> Is there a "Update Driver..." button?
#395 [03:24] <cederwood> yes, should i install the software automaticly, or shoud i want to choose?
#396 [03:24] <cestislife> Automatically.
#397 [03:25] <cederwood> (((sorry for the bad english, you are talking to a 14 year old boy out of the netherlands :-)
#398 [03:25] <cestislife> Ahah, no problem, important thing is to try to get this working for you.
#399 [03:26] <cederwood> it can'st continue, because no better software for this harware was found
#400 [03:27] <cederwood> do i want to hold the old software, or do i want to search on an other location?
#401 [03:28] <cestislife> That means it has no later drivers.
#402 [03:28] <cestislife> Does minecraft work before this?
#403 [03:29] <cederwood> once, it functioned nrmally
#404 [03:29] <cestislife> once. ._.
#405 [03:30] <cederwood> yeah, yesterday morning
#406 [03:30] <cederwood> i could play
#407 [03:30] <Calinou> cederwood: intel GPUs are not really fast, I doubt minecraft will be playable
#408 [03:30] <Calinou> what's your CPU?
#409 [03:30] <Calinou> if it's an high end one like an i5 or an i7 the integrated GPU might be enough to play minecraft
#410 [03:30] <Calinou> if it's not you're basically out of luck :P
#411 [03:31] <cederwood> it's intel 4 pentium
#412 [03:31] <cestislife> This is his DxDiag
#413 [03:31] <cestislife> http://pastebin.com/rzJUYDqb
#414 [03:31] <Calinou> probably not enough then
#415 [03:32] <cederwood> but why does it functioned once than?
#416 [03:32] <cestislife> Maybe try to follow this video's instructions
#417 [03:32] <cestislife> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwHoOuJUcnc
#418 [03:32] <VoxelHead> How to fix the error 'Bad video card drivers' on Minecraft (HD!) Windows xp/vista/7 ( by flaba101 )
#419 [03:33] <Calinou> yey youtube video
#420 [03:33] <cestislife> Only 1 and half minute long.
#421 [03:36] <cederwood> thank you guys!!!!
#422 [03:36] <cederwood> i am so happy, it works
#423 [03:36] <cederwood> how can i thank you
#424 [03:36] <cestislife> Ahah!
#425 [03:36] <cestislife> :D
#426 [03:37] * cestislife takes note that decreasing hardware acceleration on Intel drivers can help fix bad video card drivers error
#426 [03:37] <cederwood> really, thanks for your time and patience
#427 [03:37] <cestislife> No problem :)
#428 [03:37] <cederwood> greetings from holland
#429 [03:37] <cederwood> or groeten uit holland
#430 [03:37] <cederwood> in dutch
#431 [03:38] <cestislife> xD
#432 [03:38] <cederwood> echt heel erg bedankt voor jullie service, jullie hebben weer een minecrafter blij gemaakt
#433 [03:39] <cederwood> translation: really thanks for your service, you have made another minecrafter happy
#434 [03:39] <cederwood> XD
#435 [03:39] <cestislife> :D
#436 [03:40] <cederwood> bye, and it souns weird, but i hope i have to never come back here so long taking your time
#437 [03:40] <cederwood> (i hope evry thing works fine now)
#438 [03:40] <cestislife> I hope so too :P
#439 [03:40] <cederwood> bye
#440 [03:40] <cestislife> o/
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#442 [03:41] <cestislife> I feel good.
#443 [03:41] <cestislife> lol
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#447 [04:02] <Calinou> cestislife: how are you supposed to "decrease" hardware accel?
#448 [04:02] <Calinou> O_o
#449 [04:02] <cestislife> It has an option in the video, apparently.
#450 [04:03] <Calinou> you mean, decreasing "quality", or downclocking it in soem way?
#451 [04:03] <cestislife> Well, you could look at the video :P
#452 [04:03] <cestislife> Lemme see
#453 [04:04] * Calinou has the money for dedicated GPUs anyway, by not buying tablets :>
#453 [04:04] <cestislife> In the video it shows a slider with..
#454 [04:04] <cestislife> None - Full
#455 [04:04] <cestislife> Hardware acceleration on the side
#456 [04:05] <cestislife> So it must mean that lol
#457 [04:07] <cestislife> And what does it have to do with tablets :P
#458 [04:11] <Calinou> because I save money :3
#459 [04:11] <cestislife> Moneh!
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#488 [05:35] <Ediz> Hi
#489 [05:36] <Ediz> Do anyone have any idea why I can run Minecraft perfectly fine on Single player, but when I am on multiplayer, I can get in server and unless I don't move, minecraft freezes
#490 [05:36] <Ediz> and can't play?
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#493 [05:50] <cestislife> Ediz, it might be a server issue
#494 [05:50] <Ediz> Nope, it is not
#495 [05:50] <Rikairchy> hi guys
#496 [05:50] <Ediz> It happens in all servers I get in
#497 [05:51] <Rikairchy> Ediz: what seems to be the issue?
#498 [05:51] <Ediz> When I am on single player, I can play perfectly fine
#499 [05:51] <Ediz> However, when I get in a multiplayer game
#500 [05:51] <Ediz> I can get in server
#501 [05:51] <Ediz> and see the world
#502 [05:51] <Ediz> But as soon as I move, the game freezes
#503 [05:52] <Rikairchy> have you tried a force update, and are you running any mods?
#504 [05:52] <Ediz> Yes I did, reinstalled minecraft and java as well
#505 [05:52] <Ediz> and no
#506 [05:52] <Rikairchy> so, on a multiplayer server
#507 [05:52] <Rikairchy> your minecraft will freeze
#508 [05:52] <Rikairchy> does it crash?
#509 [05:52] <Rikairchy> ??< index
#510 [05:53] <Ediz> It freezes and forces me to close, since I get "Not responding" error
#511 [05:53] <Rikairchy> hm
#512 [05:53] <Rikairchy> are you running the EXE?
#513 [05:53] <Rikairchy> or the .jar
#514 [05:53] <Ediz> .exe
#515 [05:53] <Rikairchy> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#516 [05:53] <Rikairchy> try that
#517 [05:54] <Rikairchy> its the link from minecraft.net for the java file
#518 [05:58] <Ediz> Ok, now this is unexpected
#519 [05:58] <Ediz> I have a minecraft user already anf now it says login failed?
#520 [05:58] <Ediz> an won't let me click offline mode
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#546 [06:57] <mosuk07> hello
#547 [06:58] <mosuk07> i bought a copy of minecraft for a friend yesterday but on his email i put .co.uk instead of .com and now he hasn't recieved the game!
#548 [06:58] <mosuk07> Is there any way that i can cancel the previous gift and resend it?
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#558 [07:20] <Lion_603> hey, can anybody help me please? i got a map and a single chunk isnt loading... it seems to be still there but isnt visible... some sheem are not falling under the bedrock level but stuck in the "air"
#559 [07:20] <Lion_603> sometimes loading this world minecraft crashes reporrting an exception at "server tick loop"
#560 [07:21] <Lion_603> i tried to force update and then the chunkhole was still there
#561 [07:22] <Lion_603> mostly i use optifine and a texturepack... already tried to run minecraft without optifine and tp at completely vanilla mode but it didnt help
#562 [07:23] <Lion_603> any ideas?
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#565 [07:28] <tyteen4a03> Lion_603, use MCEdit to fix it
#566 [07:30] <Lion_603> ill try, thanks
#567 [07:30] <Lion_603> happy holidays and new year, bye
#568 [07:30] <Lion_603> happy holidays and new year, bye
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#577 [07:45] <WeryS98PL> hello
#578 [07:45] <Lutzee> Hey
#579 [07:45] <benhunter09> Hi
#580 [07:48] <WeryS98PL> I need a help, my account has stolen by I don't know who, i have send two e-mails to Mojang, but they don't answer me... what should I do? I bought a key of game, not used account
#581 [07:49] <Necrodoom> WeryS98PL: bought from mojang or another person?
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#583 [07:49] <Lutzee> help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#584 [07:50] <WeryS98PL> Necrodoom, from mojang
#585 [07:50] <Lutzee> WeryS98PL: Go read what is on that page.
#586 [07:50] <WeryS98PL> okay, thanks
#587 [07:50] <Necrodoom> hm, you tried to reset password?
#588 [07:51] <WeryS98PL> yes
#589 [07:51] <WeryS98PL> I send my e-mail two months ago...
#590 [07:51] <Necrodoom> you sure you are on the correct email?
#591 [07:53] <WeryS98PL> Yes, i use my correct e-mail. I log with e-mail to game
#592 [07:53] <WeryS98PL> sorry, i logged :D
#593 [07:54] <Necrodoom> hm
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#595 [07:55] <WeryS98PL> but my password has lost, the first day - i logged, second - i couldn't
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#627 [09:54] <mv> I have loaded minecraft onto my MAC but am now trying to migrate to a PC. When I try to load it on our PC it says it is uploading and then the minecraft outer shell appears with only a black box in the middle. What am I doing wrong?
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#644 [10:38] <sujman> we downloaded the game but unable to play the game -- cannot move, attack, etc
#645 [10:38] <TheNoodle> Can you be more specific?
#646 [10:38] <sujman> the controls do not work
#647 [10:43] <sujman> and the screen is shakey
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#649 [10:47] <Zalgo> sounds like a graphics issue
#650 [10:47] <Zalgo> or not.
#651 [10:47] * Zalgo only read the last line :/
#651 [10:48] <sujman> ok how do i resolve it/
#652 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> Are you stuck inside the ground? try destroying the ground beneath you
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#661 [11:11] <michelle_> i cannot get into minecraft it keeps saying bad drivers?
#662 [11:12] <michelle_> How do I fix this?
#663 [11:12] <clarjon1> Install new video drivers
#664 [11:12] <michelle_> my ati says its running correctly
#665 [11:13] <clarjon1> Did you get the ATI drivers from Windows Update?
#666 [11:13] <michelle_> this is a brand new pc
#667 [11:13] <clarjon1> Did you get the ATI drivers from Windows Update?
#668 [11:13] <michelle_> no
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#670 [11:13] <clarjon1> From ATI's website?
#671 [11:13] <michelle_> they all came with new computer
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#673 [11:13] <TheNoodle> ?? win/dxdiag
#674 [11:13] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#675 [11:13] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#677 [11:15] <michelle_> it works just fine on my dads laptop
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#679 [11:16] <michelle_> i have windows 8 and there isnt a way to get to my display settings to fix the problem
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#685 [11:30] <Calinou> another windows 8 user left the building
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#688 [11:35] <supervaug> Demo keeps crashing...trying to figure out why.
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#696 [11:51] <Archer-> Anybody here claimed a server before via minecraftforum?
#697 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#698 [11:52] <Archer-> Kinda having trouble with it, it takes awfully long to verify the MOTD, is that supposed to be like that?
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#711 [12:54] <free2mine> If it is against the minecraft TOS to redistribute the minecraft client would tekkit not also be against the TOS?
#712 [12:55] <free2mine> or is the fact that it is a modded version of a cleint effect that?
#713 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> You've already been told that redistributing minecraft, a la, minecraftforfree.com, is illegal and against the ToS
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#715 [12:58] <zed123> I need some help on a modpack
#716 [12:59] <zed123> I need to find a mod,
#717 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> As there's too many different mods out there, we don't really assist with mods here.
#718 [12:59] <zed123> ok.
#719 [12:59] <free2mine> GreyVulpine so tekkit is against the TOS correct?
#720 [13:00] <zed123> I play minecraft with no mods atm. But Im looking for a mod where I can search for the things i want to make, and then get a tip how to make it
#721 [13:00] <zed123> in game
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#723 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> zed123 - Try toomanyitems if you want a list of items. It doesn't have a tip on how to make it, but it can give you creative style play in a survival world.
#724 [13:02] <zed123> thank you so much...
#725 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> free2mine - Here is Mojang's terms of service: https://account.mojang.com/terms#terms-full
#726 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> free2mine - Justify your own "free" minecraft service how you wish with it.
#727 [13:03] <free2mine> not listen on the minecraft website
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#729 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> The ONE Major Rule section states:
#730 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> "The one major rule is that you must not distribute anything we‘ve made. By “distribute anything we‘ve made” what we mean is “give copies of the game away, make commercial use of, try to make money from, or let other people get access to our game and its parts in a way that is unfair or unreasonable”."
#731 [13:04] <free2mine> correct
#732 [13:04] <free2mine> so tekkit is against the tos
#733 [13:04] <free2mine> am i right?
#734 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to ask Mojang for clarification on that
#735 [13:05] <free2mine> lol
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#739 [13:14] <Elliot> Has a premium account. First time inventory full. Next time everything is empty, why? How to get it all back?
#740 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Did you die?
#741 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Were you playing multiplayer? Single player?
#742 [13:15] <Elliot> Not sure, it is my son playing, he says no...
#743 [13:15] <free2mine> wow GreyVulpine i feel sorry for you bro :(
#744 [13:15] <Elliot> Singleplayer
#745 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Elliot - If he's lost all his inventory, you can try switching his character to creative mode, to replace the stuff that he's lost.
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#747 [13:17] <Elliot> Ok, where do I do that?
#748 [13:17] <BigDogEric> when trying to download on my new mac get the error msg Minecraft defective
#749 [13:17] <BigDogEric> what do i do to get past that issue
#750 [13:17] <free2mine> GreyVulpine have no worries im only here to help :) because im nice like that il even change my name if you wish
#751 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Elliot - You can do that with the chat command (Usually T), and typing in: /gamemode 1 playername
#752 [13:17] <free2mine> BigDogEric you downloaded the minecraft.jar from the minecraft.net website correct?
#753 [13:17] <BigDogEric> yes
#754 [13:18] <free2mine> do you have Java Runtime Enviroment Installed or similar?
#755 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> free2mine - I don't have a problem with you being here, just when people advertise or promote piracy. That earns an instant kick.
#756 [13:18] <free2mine> Im not here to promote :D
#757 [13:18] * GreyVulpine nods
#757 [13:18] <free2mine> would you like me to chnage my name?
#758 [13:18] <BigDogEric> should be its a new mac mini with lion
#759 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Then we have an understanding.
#760 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Nah.
#761 [13:18] <free2mine> ok :D
#762 [13:19] <BigDogEric> how do i tell
#763 [13:19] <free2mine> hmm prehaps GreyVulpine could asist you further as i have not player minecraft on mac yet
#764 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Give me a second to reread the log.
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#766 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Ah.. minecraft being 'damaged' on macs?
#767 [13:19] <free2mine> correct
#768 [13:20] <free2mine> a bit unuswell was there any form of error code?
#769 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Right, that's because of MacOSX's 'new' security feature, called 'gatekeeper'
#770 [13:20] <BigDogEric> I'm looking now
#771 [13:20] <free2mine> oh ^ he knows
#772 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> It prevents any applications not purchased from the mac store to run.
#773 [13:20] <SinZ> debatably not a security feature imo
#774 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Let me pull you up some instructions
#775 [13:20] <Elliot> I have tried the gamemode comman. It says I do not have permission
#776 [13:20] <SinZ> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#777 [13:20] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#778 [13:20] <BigDogEric> \no just minecraft damaged move to trash
#779 [13:20] <BigDogEric> \\
#780 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> BigDogEric - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290 -- Set Gatekeeper to ANywhere
#781 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Then redownload minecraft. It'll work then
#782 [13:21] <BigDogEric> trying it now.
#783 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Elliot - Rats, cheats wasn't enabled upon world creation then.
#784 [13:22] <SinZ> could always edit level.dat and change allowCommands to true
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#786 [13:22] <SinZ> would need an NBT editor though
#787 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Other option would be to mod it with toomanyitems.
#788 [13:23] <Elliot> So is inventory gone forever, do I have to pay for another account? How to prevent it from dissappearing again?
#789 [13:23] <free2mine> SinZ i dont personly think that is applicable i dont think Elliot quite understands
#790 [13:23] <Elliot> I have no clue
#791 [13:23] <dania> hi i purchased minecraft and created a mojang account. after downloading minecraft.exe it ask for a log in again. i log in using my mojang account info and it says "log in failed" .. please any thoudoghts. it wont log me into minecraft i dont know what else to
#792 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> No, it's most likely either due to one of several reasons. One, the player died, inventory is lost. Two, new world, inventory is not saved across worlds. Or Three, world corruption issue.
#793 [13:24] <free2mine> Elliot minecraft is a game when playing in single player there is no loss if you lose your inventory its just for fun if you lose your inventory it does not effect any status at the account s still premium and will always be
#794 [13:24] <BigDogEric> ok sorry slow found it it is clicked on the center one so why isnt it working
#795 [13:24] <free2mine> You will never lose premium all is fine :)
#796 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> BigDogEric - Change gatekeeper to "Anywhere". Then redownload minecraft. Gatekeeper is a mac security 'feature' which prevents any non-app store app from running
#797 [13:24] <Elliot> ok, so you play from the beginning, collecting stuff or what?
#798 [13:24] <free2mine> correct
#799 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Since minecraft is not distributed from the mac's app store, it was prevented from downloading successfully, hence the 'damaged' error
#800 [13:25] <free2mine> you die you respawn or start again and do it all over
#801 [13:25] <free2mine> like every other game
#802 [13:25] <BigDogEric> gotcha doin it.
#803 [13:25] <free2mine> GreyVulpine surley you would think aple should do somthing about that minecraft is a fairly popular game
#804 [13:25] <free2mine> apple*
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#806 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> free2mine - You would think..
#807 [13:26] <free2mine> :p
#808 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> But nope. Closed environment. Apple mentality.
#809 [13:26] <BigDogEric> thank you so much for your help were in.
#810 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Not going to question it. Haven't touched an apple computer since high school.
#811 [13:26] <SinZ> free2mine: Apple expects mojang to pay for a developer key, to sign minecraft saying that they are paying apple not to have that message
#812 [13:26] <free2mine> apple have always been very.... pickey on what they let there users do
#813 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> BigDogEric - Glad to hear it
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#815 [13:27] <dania> does anyone know who i can contact with log in issues in minecraft? i purchased it and cant even play it :(
#816 [13:27] <free2mine> hmm SinZ surley minecraft could go along with that though
#817 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> dania - What kind of log in issues?
#818 [13:27] <SinZ> free2mine: Mojang believe in the PC being an open platform
#819 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#820 [13:27] <dania> i creaated a mojang account as they told me
#821 [13:27] <free2mine> SinZ and apple are the exact oposite
#822 [13:27] <dania> then i downloaded minecraft.exe and run it
#823 [13:27] <SinZ> Notch had a rant earlier this year about windows 8 potentially closing off the PC platform
#824 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> dania - Did you pay for an account?
#825 [13:28] <free2mine> yes :(
#826 [13:28] <SinZ> iirc Notch would rather have the game not run at all, then pay microsoft/apple to have it work
#827 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> I recall that same sentiment, SinZ.
#828 [13:28] <free2mine> lol
#829 [13:29] <SinZ> than*
#830 [13:29] <Hollowmann> Hello , my Friend has a Minecraft Crashed whit Minecraft Forge on it and whit my Installation from Minecraft Forge whit the Same files is Runs fine! Where is the Problem ?
#831 [13:29] <Bugboy1028> ??> Hollowmann mod
#832 [13:29] <SinZ> ?? mods
#833 [13:29] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#834 [13:29] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#835 [13:29] <Bugboy1028> SinZ, curse you!
#836 [13:30] <Elliot> Ok, So empty inventory is supposed to happen when you die? Why is it full the first time you play?
#837 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> It isn't.
#838 [13:31] <free2mine> GreyVulpine oh i googled that notch vs minecraft for free. oh how i loled
#839 [13:31] <Elliot> It was full of stuff
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#841 [13:31] <Hollowmann> okay, thank you
#842 [13:32] <free2mine> Elliots its odd that it was full the first time
#843 [13:32] <Elliot> really?
#844 [13:32] <free2mine> as it shouldnt of been
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#846 [13:32] <Elliot> even if you pay for premium account?`
#847 [13:33] <free2mine> yes
#848 [13:33] <free2mine> premium just means that you can play online on servers
#849 [13:33] <Elliot> Ok, at least I know. Thanx for fast support!
#850 [13:33] <free2mine> where as non premium means you can only play single player and on a few unlisted servers
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#852 [13:33] <free2mine> welcome
#853 [13:33] * GreyVulpine coughs lightly.
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#854 [13:33] <SinZ> uhh, non-premium only has the demo, which is limited to 90-minutes
#855 [13:34] <free2mine> :p you get a thank you too GreyVulpine
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#857 [13:34] <free2mine> SinZ oh i was not aware :p
#858 [13:34] * SinZ sighs
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#859 [13:34] <free2mine> i should really check theses things out before i make websites.....
#860 [13:34] <free2mine> meh
#861 [13:36] <free2mine> I did here about minecraft on the PI though :/ no idea how that could ever be possable as minecraft uses so much ram the PI simply dosnt have
#862 [13:38] <SinZ> PI?
#863 [13:38] <free2mine> raspery PI
#864 [13:38] <SinZ> its a port from pocket edition
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#866 [13:38] <free2mine> oh
#867 [13:38] <free2mine> that would explain alot
#868 [13:38] <free2mine> :p
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#872 [13:40] <dania> can any0ne help please with a log in issue after i download minecraft.xe i login using my mojang account info but it says "log in failed" . i bought game 2 days ago and cant log in to play it ;(
#873 [13:41] <free2mine> 1. are you 100% sure you typed the information correctly 2. have you recived a e-mail from mojang about your accounts
#874 [13:41] <dania> yes i am 100% sure
#875 [13:41] <free2mine> any emails?
#876 [13:41] <dania> yes i have received mojang emails everything is verified
#877 [13:41] <free2mine> hmm is the account premium ?
#878 [13:42] <dania> im supposed to use my mojang user name email address to log into minecraft
#879 [13:42] <free2mine> negative
#880 [13:42] <free2mine> you should have a username and password
#881 [13:42] <free2mine> not e-mail and password
#882 [13:42] <TheNoodle> Mojang accounts use their email address free2mine.
#883 [13:42] <free2mine> for the webiste
#884 [13:42] <free2mine> right :/
#885 [13:43] <free2mine> not for the minecraft client
#886 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Also for the minecraft client as well
#887 [13:44] <free2mine> hmm then theres somthign wrong with the server
#888 [13:44] <free2mine> as i have a account thats not premium and one that is
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#890 [13:44] <free2mine> i tried logging in with my email and password no luck
#891 [13:44] <dania_> free2mine are u stil there
#892 [13:44] <free2mine> dania_, i am
#893 [13:45] <dania_> okay so how do i find out what my Minecraft user name and password is?
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#895 [13:45] <dania_> i thought all along was the mojang account info :(
#896 [13:45] <free2mine> TheNoodle and GreyVulpine corrected me you can use your email and password
#897 [13:45] <free2mine> sorry about that
#898 [13:46] <dania_> thats what the screen said ..to use the mojang account info
#899 [13:46] <dania_> but it says "account failed"
#900 [13:46] <dania_> log in failed sorry
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#902 [13:46] <dania_> i did a force update too
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#905 [13:46] <free2mine> hmm
#906 [13:47] <dania_> so frustrating to have paid and it wont let me in :(
#907 [13:47] <free2mine> well do you have a minecraft username?
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#909 [13:48] <PandaMan> Hi guys. I'm trying to get MC to run on Puppy Linux. I can log in but then it just goes to a black screen and nothing happens.
#910 [13:49] <free2mine> do you have the correct graphic drivers installed?
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#912 [13:49] <dania_> yes because my daughter logged into her account on my laptop and it works fine
#913 [13:49] <PandaMan> I think so. Linux is completely new to me though so I can't be certain
#914 [13:50] <free2mine> PandaMan go to slickpet in slickpet download java runtime environment then go to drivers and install mesa GLX
#915 [13:50] <free2mine> reboot and run minecraft.jar
#916 [13:50] <TheNoodle> dania_, can you log into minecraft.net with your credentials?
#917 [13:50] <PandaMan> That's what I have done already free2mine
#918 [13:50] <free2mine> hmm
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#921 [13:51] <free2mine> PandaMan just incse as you said you wasnt 100% sure can you try to install your graphics drivers
#922 [13:51] <free2mine> as i think that would be the issue
#923 [13:52] <PandaMan> I assume I'll be able to find them through google?
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#925 [13:52] <PandaMan> I'll try that, but I must go now. I'll probably be back in an hour or two
#926 [13:52] <ccabd> hey, do you guys know where i could get some help on minecraft forge?
#927 [13:52] <dania> im back to Thenoodle and free2mine
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#929 [13:52] <free2mine> correct do you know that craphics chipset you have? if so google should be able to guide you on the install and if you get stuck after that or if that didnt fix it let me know and i shall try and help
#930 [13:53] <free2mine> dania was you able to login to minecraft.net?
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#932 [13:53] <dania> yes free2mine
#933 [13:53] <free2mine> hmm TheNoodle can you assist?
#934 [13:53] <TheNoodle> One sec
#935 [13:54] <dania> i log in, i click on the download and then it asks me for a log in again and this is where im stuck
#936 [13:54] <TheNoodle> ??< index
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#938 [13:54] <free2mine> hmm wait
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#940 [13:54] <free2mine> so you have not been able to download minecraft?
#941 [13:54] <dania> ok ty u guys are awesome
#942 [13:55] <TheNoodle> ??< login
#943 [13:55] <dania> yes i download the minecraft.exe i run it and it ask for a log in.. i try to put my mojang email and password just like i do in minecraft.net and it says "account failed"
#944 [13:55] <dania> log in failed
#945 [13:55] <TheNoodle> What do you get when you visit https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13 ?
#946 [13:56] <dania> i just tried link .. its a bad link resend please
#947 [13:56] * free2mine tried out of intrest
#947 [13:56] <free2mine> i got Bad login
#948 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> ^ that is what you're supposed to get
#949 [13:57] <free2mine> hmms
#950 [13:57] <dania> yes i got bad login
#951 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> If the link doesn't resolve for you, DNS is wrong
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#953 [13:57] <free2mine> oh ok
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#956 [13:58] <tom> why does it say user not premium when i brought minecraft
#957 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> tom - Then Mojang has not received confirmation that your payment went through
#958 [13:58] <tom> but i got the recipt
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#960 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> dania - Have you tried just resetting your password?
#961 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> tom - Do you have a transaction ID with that receipt?
#962 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> tom - Or just an order number?
#963 [13:59] <dania> yes numerous times but i'll try it again
#964 [13:59] <tom> yeh
#965 [13:59] <tom> i do
#966 [13:59] <tom> the one it said save
#967 [13:59] <tom> it
#968 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> tom - If you have a transaction ID, then forward it along to Mojang with their online support ticket form at: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#969 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> They'll look up what account you purchased it under and get back to you on it
#970 [14:00] <tom> hello?
#971 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Hello.
#972 [14:00] <tom> thank you
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#975 [14:04] <dania> at free2mine& thenoodle .. i just reset my password and still getting account failed
#976 [14:04] <free2mine> quick thing
#977 [14:05] <free2mine> try to login using your minecraft username
#978 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> dania - Did you log into mojang.com and create a minecraft profile under your mojang account?
#979 [14:05] <dania> at greyvulpine i reo set password to
#980 [14:05] <dania> yes greyvulpine
#981 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> With that profile, you should've also created a minecraft username.
#982 [14:05] <dania> oh wait .. no how do i do that
#983 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Go back to your mojang.com account.
#984 [14:05] <dania> i think i missed that step..pleas help
#985 [14:05] <dania> ok hold on
#986 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> https://account.mojang.com/login
#987 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Either under Games, or My account, you should see a Minecraft heading. There, you'll have an link to create a Minecraft profile, which includes your minecraft username
#988 [14:07] <dania> i am logged in but no link to create minecraft profile
#989 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Look up at the upper right for either Games, or My account.
#990 [14:09] <dania> i see my account and i have options of settings or log out
#991 [14:09] <dania> under games it has cobalt , minecraft or scrolls
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#993 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> When you click on My account, does it list a Minecraft profile there?
#994 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> You should see something like: http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8559/mojangacc.png
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#996 [14:12] <dania> no grevulpine i dont see that at all
#997 [14:12] <dania> no grevulpine i dont see that at all
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#999 [14:12] <ZombieGuy94> I have a windows 8 64 bit pc, updated drivers from amd site for win8 64bit, still getting bad video drivers error when trying to log in
#1000 [14:12] <ZombieGuy94> please help
#1001 [14:13] <dania> all i see when i click on my account is a drop down : settings or log out and in the page it says something about how i can migrate my accont
#1002 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> dania - Hmm.. Are you sure you purchased minecraft under that Mojang account?
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#1004 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> If you did, it would have shown minecraft under your My Games heading there. It would also have provided a link to create a Minecraft profile/username if you haven't done so after purchase
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#1007 [14:15] <ZombieGuy94> anyone know a fix for bad drivers error
#1008 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Would be to update your video drivers. If that doesn't work, there's not much else you can do
#1009 [14:15] <dania> okay my 9yr old just told me that we did originally saw that option and she created a profile name but how come i cant see it>?
#1010 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> dania - I.. have no idea.
#1011 [14:16] <TheNoodle> heh.
#1012 [14:16] <dania> anyone i can contact to get that user name that my daughter created> ?
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#1015 [14:17] <dania> she thinks she knows what it is .. but i tried it and it still says login failed
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#1017 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Could you try a: http://minecraft.net/retrievename
#1018 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> It should return an email along with the username that's attached to the email, and whether or not it's premium
#1019 [14:20] <dania> i tried that greyvulpine and it says my email is not on record
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#1022 [14:23] <Jhwarby> Guys, there's a jar running in the background, lagging me like crazy, how do I make it stop (don't really wanna restart my pc because that would take seconds!)?
#1023 [14:23] <dania> weird.. my email is not on record.. but i paid for this game
#1024 [14:25] <dania> should i request my $$ back and start all over.?
#1025 [14:26] <Syfaro> Jhwarby, use task manager to kill it?
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#1029 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> dania - I think, at this point, contacting Mojang's customer support at: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new -- would be your best option
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#1032 [14:29] <howard> cannot get minecraft to run. have downloaded game 10 times and nothing. I canlog in, but will not run
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#1035 [14:33] <Jhwarby> I probs sound really nooby, but when you first start a minecraft server (downloaded from the site) where do the files save?
#1036 [14:33] <free2mine> Jhwarby in the same dire as the minecraft_server.jar
#1037 [14:33] <free2mine> dir*
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#1039 [14:35] <Jhwarby> Oh, I have to open it with winrar or something?
#1040 [14:35] <Jhwarby> Gotcha.
#1041 [14:36] <xXSniper14Xx> does anyone know how to fix the java EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION ?
#1042 [14:36] <free2mine> no Jhwarby
#1043 [14:36] <Jhwarby> free2mine: It's not what you think, mine's a minecraft_server.exe
#1044 [14:36] <Jhwarby> :P
#1045 [14:36] <free2mine> correct
#1046 [14:37] <free2mine> so run the exe
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#1048 [14:37] <TheNoodle> Same thing Jhwarby.
#1049 [14:37] <Jhwarby> I ran it
#1050 [14:37] <Jhwarby> Where are the files?
#1051 [14:37] <free2mine> and all the files will expand in thefolder the exe is in
#1052 [14:37] <Jhwarby> Let me try again
#1053 [14:37] <free2mine> how about
#1054 [14:37] <free2mine> make a new folder
#1055 [14:37] <free2mine> put the exe inside
#1056 [14:37] <free2mine> run it
#1057 [14:37] <free2mine> and watch :p
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#1059 [14:38] <Jhwarby> Oh yeah, it's because the exe was in a big file before I moved it
#1060 [14:38] <Jhwarby> I didn't notice the other files
#1061 [14:38] <free2mine> yeh :)
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#1063 [14:39] <Jhwarby> Do I just drop craft bukkit in the folder to have bukkit?
#1064 [14:39] <free2mine> i'm not 100% sure on that one i belive craftbukkit itself has its own server client but i could be wrong
#1065 [14:39] <Jhwarby> I think that's tekkit.
#1066 [14:39] <TheNoodle> one sec Jhwarby.
#1067 [14:40] <TheNoodle> Follow this, http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server and for further support regarding bukkit try #bukkit
#1068 [14:40] <dus3> everything downloaded fine and the launcher is up but when i log in it goes black and goes back to the icons what do i do
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#1070 [14:41] <free2mine> dus3 check your videio card drivers
#1071 [14:41] <free2mine> video*
#1072 [14:41] <dus3> how do i do that
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#1074 [14:42] <dus3> i dont know how to go to that
#1075 [14:43] <free2mine> do you know what graphics card you have?
#1076 [14:43] <dus3> no
#1077 [14:43] <free2mine> ok are you using windows?
#1078 [14:43] <dus3> yes
#1079 [14:43] <free2mine> ok click the start button
#1080 [14:43] <free2mine> right click my computer
#1081 [14:43] <free2mine> then manage
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#1084 [14:44] <free2mine> then click device manager
#1085 [14:44] <free2mine> look under Display Adaters
#1086 [14:44] <free2mine> clcik the > arrow next to it
#1087 [14:44] <free2mine> and tell me if it says what the deive is called
#1088 [14:45] <dus3> sis 760
#1089 [14:45] <free2mine> hold on
#1090 [14:46] <TheNoodle> sounds onboard >_>
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#1092 [14:46] <free2mine> i belive it is
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#1094 [14:47] <free2mine> dus3 http://driver2.sis.com/64bit/graphic/64vga365.zip
#1095 [14:47] <free2mine> thats for the 64bit though
#1096 [14:47] <free2mine> i couldnt seem to find a 32 bit
#1097 [14:48] <free2mine> do you know if your using 32bit windows or 64bit?
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#1100 [14:48] <TheNoodle> free2mine, it's generally easier to aquire this information through dxdiag :P
#1101 [14:48] <free2mine> true
#1102 [14:48] <dus3> i belive it is a name change what do i do
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#1104 [14:49] <free2mine> ? name change
#1105 [14:49] <dus3> in the 404 file or directory error
#1106 [14:49] <free2mine> oh
#1107 [14:49] <free2mine> :/
#1108 [14:49] <free2mine> sorry didnt check
#1109 [14:50] <free2mine> hmm it seems even sis dont have a driver for it
#1110 [14:50] <free2mine> TheNoodle any sugestions
#1111 [14:51] <TheNoodle> Try the motherboard's site
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#1113 [14:51] <dus3> how do i get to that
#1114 [14:52] <TheNoodle> ?? wi/dxdiag
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#1118 [14:52] <free2mine> dus3 start -> run -> dxdiag
#1119 [14:52] <TheNoodle> ?? win/dxdiag
#1120 [14:52] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1121 [14:53] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1122 [14:53] <free2mine> or do that....
#1123 [14:53] <TheNoodle> :D
#1124 [14:53] <free2mine> :p
#1125 [14:53] <dus3> ok im there
#1126 [14:53] <free2mine> actually TheNoodle my dxdiag dosnt conain my motherboard information
#1127 [14:54] <free2mine> dus3 look for System Manafacturer and System Model
#1128 [14:54] <TheNoodle> heh
#1129 [14:54] <free2mine> TheNoodle i know :/
#1130 [14:54] <xXSniper14Xx> mine doesn't either
#1131 [14:54] <TheNoodle> I can't trust mine, nothing reports >_>
#1132 [14:55] <free2mine> Tell me the Manufacturer and Model and i should be able to help
#1133 [14:55] <dus3> compaq presarioi 061
#1134 [14:55] <free2mine> mine thinks i have 16 cores :/
#1135 [14:55] <free2mine> i can live with that :D
#1136 [14:56] <dus3> pw532aa-aba sr1403wm na520
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#1138 [14:57] <free2mine> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?product=501310&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&task=&lang=en&cc=us
#1139 [14:58] <free2mine> simply click on Software and Driver Downloads
#1140 [14:58] <free2mine> It will then ask your operating system
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#1142 [14:58] <free2mine> select your one
#1143 [14:58] <free2mine> although only allows the choice of XP
#1144 [14:58] <xXSniper14Xx> xD
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#1146 [14:59] <free2mine> and also has no graphic drivers :/
#1147 [14:59] <dus3> which one
#1148 [14:59] <free2mine> TheNoodle help D:
#1149 [14:59] <free2mine> ther official HP site for your pc dosnt actually have the drivers
#1150 [14:59] <xXSniper14Xx> search on amd
#1151 [14:59] <dus3> so now what
#1152 [14:59] <free2mine> ? its not a ATI / AMD graphics card
#1153 [15:00] <free2mine> hang on dus3 im trying
#1154 [15:00] <TheNoodle> hmm, sec
#1155 [15:01] <Morrolan> Trying to get it working on a SiS GPU?
#1156 [15:01] <Morrolan> As far as I know, that's a "no way this'll work". ;)
#1157 [15:01] <free2mine> i thought that
#1158 [15:01] <free2mine> but i still tried :(
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#1160 [15:02] <free2mine> the computer is rather old
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#1162 [15:02] <dus3> hold on i tryed and got it to a list ofthings to download
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#1164 [15:02] <free2mine> dus3 the issue is is that 1. i cannot find the graphics card drivers and 2. even if we can it will not work
#1165 [15:03] <free2mine> or at least the chances of it working are extreamly slim
#1166 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> In my over two years here, I've never gotten a single SiS chipset to work with minecraft.
#1167 [15:03] <free2mine> In my 17 years of life i have never even heard of SiS
#1168 [15:04] <TheNoodle> http://driverscollection.com/?H=K8S-MX&By=ASUS
#1169 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Been fortunate. They've been around for a while.
#1170 [15:04] <TheNoodle> not really a trusted source though >_>
#1171 [15:04] <Morrolan> The fact that Wikipedia says that "/Some/ cards contain a 3D graphics accelerator" says a lot I think. ;)
#1172 [15:04] <free2mine> lol
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#1175 [15:05] <free2mine> dus3 if you do manage to get it to work please come back and tell GreyVulpine it would make his day
#1176 [15:06] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - Have you set highlights on 'SiS' and 'c660', actually? :P
#1177 [15:06] <B> why are my controls not working
#1178 [15:06] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1178 [15:07] <B> hey
#1179 [15:07] <free2mine> B please eleborate
#1180 [15:08] <Morrolan> B - The easiest solution is probably to wipe your options.txt from the face of this planet. Do you know where your .minecraft folder resides?
#1181 [15:08] <Morrolan> If that doesn't cut it, we can look for further issues. :P
#1182 [15:08] <free2mine> %APPDATA%
#1183 [15:09] <B> 1 sec
#1184 [15:09] <free2mine> unless on linux ect
#1185 [15:09] <free2mine> hmm MinecraftOS now that would be cool
#1186 [15:10] <B> when i play minecraft all the controls are set to button 1
#1187 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> There was a *nix kernel that was compiled to just run the bukkit server some time ago
#1188 [15:10] <free2mine> eh there is a mineOS but its for servers only
#1189 [15:10] <Morrolan> B - What operating system are you on?
#1190 [15:11] <B> windows 7
#1191 [15:11] <Morrolan> ?? win/.minecraft
#1192 [15:11] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1193 [15:11] <Morrolan> In the folder VoxelHead told you about is a file called 'options.txt'. Delete that one, then start Minecraft again, see whether the issue persists.
#1194 [15:11] * free2mine considers building a minecraftOS prehaps with a load of video drivers ect
#1194 [15:13] <free2mine> prehaps just a flavour of ubuntu
#1195 [15:13] <free2mine> or debian
#1196 [15:13] <dus3> how can i put the money back to the minecraft card
#1197 [15:13] <Morrolan> dus3 - Talking about one of those Minecraft gift codes which you bought in a store?
#1198 [15:14] <dus3> yes
#1199 [15:14] <Morrolan> That isn't possible without contacting Mojang. And even if you were to contact them, you'd have a hard time proofing that you're the original owner of that giftcard.
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#1202 [15:15] <dus3> but ibought and i have the reciept
#1203 [15:15] <Morrolan> What's the reason you're trying to do that, anyway?
#1204 [15:16] <xXSniper14Xx> have you used it?
#1205 [15:16] <free2mine> Morrolan, she cant run minecraft on the SIS remember
#1206 [15:16] <B> hello
#1207 [15:16] <xXSniper14Xx> i'll take it if you haven't
#1208 [15:16] <dus3> its not compatible with my computer
#1209 [15:16] <Morrolan> Oh, that's the SiS' owner.
#1210 [15:16] <free2mine> i have a feeling mojang wont refund you for no compatability
#1211 [15:16] <B> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
#1212 [15:16] <Morrolan> dus3 - Just wait until you have a computer which supports Minecraft, then you can use that account to play it.
#1213 [15:16] <free2mine> as alot of compnys wont
#1214 [15:17] <TheNoodle> refunss are not offered on giftcards for any reason.
#1215 [15:17] <Morrolan> B - Did you follow the instructions yet?
#1216 [15:17] <dus3> for the record im a guy
#1217 [15:17] <|Anthony|> i've been away for a few days... is there a 1.4.7 out now?
#1218 [15:17] <Morrolan> |Anthony| - Mojang.com will tell. :)
#1219 [15:17] <|Anthony|> lol
#1220 [15:17] <free2mine> dus3 sorry :p i didnt actually mean to specify a gender
#1221 [15:17] * |Anthony| is being lazy
#1221 [15:17] <B> wipe options.txt from the face of this planet???
#1222 [15:17] <dus3> ok
#1223 [15:17] <Morrolan> B - One message later.
#1224 [15:18] <Morrolan> Around xx:11:50
#1225 [15:18] <dus3> one more question can mine craft work on hp
#1226 [15:18] <Morrolan> dus3 - Depends on the computer, really.
#1227 [15:19] <free2mine> dus3 HP is a brand
#1228 [15:19] <free2mine> it would be hard to say as HP have some low spec pcs which cant
#1229 [15:19] <Morrolan> dus3 - Just try it. Zour MInecraft account isn-t bound to anz computer.
#1230 [15:19] <free2mine> and some that can
#1231 [15:19] <B> the next message was what operating system we are on
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#1233 [15:19] <Morrolan> Err, mz kezboard lazout is messed up.
#1234 [15:19] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1234 [15:19] <Morrolan> Oh, come on. \.\
#1235 [15:20] <Morrolan> I-ll just finish that sentence, then I-ll trz to find the cause.
#1236 [15:20] <dus3> ok ill try it on the laptop
#1237 [15:20] <Morrolan> B / Right after I asked you about your OS, I and VoxelHead provided you with further instructions.
#1238 [15:20] <B> this chat is confusing...too many conversations
#1239 [15:20] <xXSniper14Xx> do you guise know how to fix the java EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION error??
#1240 [15:20] <Morrolan> [21:11:26] <@VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1241 [15:20] <Morrolan> [21:11:50] <@Morrolan> In the folder VoxelHead told you about is a file called 'options.txt'. Delete that one, then start Minecraft again, see whether the issue persists.
#1242 [15:20] <Morrolan> These one, B.
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#1246 [15:22] <xXSniper14Xx> anyone?
#1247 [15:22] <xXSniper14Xx> anyone?
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#1249 [15:22] <free2mine> Morrolan stickey keys does that...... and i dont mean pressing shift 5 times
#1250 [15:22] <free2mine> stickey keys*
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#1252 [15:23] <Morrolan> I suppose I kind of hit a shortcut to change the keyboard layout, yea.
#1253 [15:23] <xXSniper14Xx> guise??
#1254 [15:23] <Morrolan> xXSniper14Xx - Slap the whole crashlog on pastebin.com and provide us with the pasted one.
#1255 [15:23] <xXSniper14Xx> okay
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#1257 [15:23] <Morrolan> xXSniper14Xx - Oh, and you might have to get used to the fact that, on IRC, answers aren't instantaneous.
#1258 [15:23] <B> your comments to us show up in red? or white?
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#1261 [15:24] <Morrolan> B - When I prefix something with your nickname (which is 'B') it's directed at you.
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#1263 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> B - Because you're using a certain web-based IRC client, when we mention your name, this line will appear to you in red
#1264 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> However, if we don't, it's white.
#1265 [15:24] <Morrolan> The colour itself won't matter. That is, like GreyVulpine said, just your client.
#1266 [15:24] <free2mine> and im back -_- went to go make tea fell over onto my modem and cut out the internet for me and all my servers -_-
#1267 [15:25] <xXSniper14Xx> http://pastebin.com/bvbnST6e BOOM!!
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#1270 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, unfortunately, xXSniper14Xx, your computer looks to be too old to run minecraft at all
#1271 [15:26] <xXSniper14Xx> but but my computer isn't that old..
#1272 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> It's running Windows XP, sp2.
#1273 [15:26] <free2mine> GreyVulpine so was i till last week :p dosnt mean its old :P
#1274 [15:26] <free2mine> GreyVulpine so was i till last week :p dosnt mean its old :P
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#1276 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> SP2, was released in 2004. SP3, in 08.
#1277 [15:27] <free2mine> xXSniper14Xx, somtimes updating your graphics card drives will also update the OpenGL depends as i had a OpenGL error before and undated and all was fine
#1278 [15:27] <free2mine> drivers*
#1279 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Also, gig of RAM, but that particular error stems from a video card that doesn't support the OpenGL needed for minecraft.
#1280 [15:27] <free2mine> its worth a try and besides having updated drivers is always good
#1281 [15:28] <xXSniper14Xx> i'll try updating the cards then
#1282 [15:28] <dus3> grey vulpine igot the sis mine craft working
#1283 [15:28] <free2mine> ok theres a chance it wont work
#1284 [15:28] <B> options.txt deletion worked. thanks so much
#1285 [15:28] <free2mine> dus3 really O.o
#1286 [15:28] <dus3> yea
#1287 [15:29] <free2mine> GreyVulpine just died
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#1289 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Oh really. I'd love to know what model of SiS you had.
#1290 [15:30] <dus3> hold on
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#1292 [15:31] <dus3> sis 760
#1293 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Where did you download those drivers from? I know I've dealt with that model on several occasions with no success.
#1294 [15:33] <dus3> i clicked on some random driver and went off site logged in and it worked
#1295 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Some random driver?
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#1297 [15:34] <dus3> yea i just accidently clickd on one and it worked
#1298 [15:34] <xXSniper14Xx> check yo history :p
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#1300 [15:35] <dus3> l8ter
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#1302 [15:35] <free2mine> :/
#1303 [15:36] * free2mine smells bs....
#1303 [15:36] <xXSniper14Xx> i hope they fix the error in 1.5 or whatever it is now
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#1306 [15:40] <Dalethegreat2001> We can not get minecraft for the Mac to download undamaged, how do we fix this? :-(
#1307 [15:40] <Mensterguy> after login i see the update screen and after that the screen remains black
#1308 [15:40] <Mensterguy> can not start game
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#1310 [15:41] <K2> Yo :o
#1311 [15:41] <Mensterguy> the gam has worked
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#1313 [15:42] <K2> I need some server related help
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#1315 [15:43] <K2> Having problem's with my server/ allowing people to join, they cannot connect, i've done all the setting's again allthough so could someone help me test it out and help me get it working?
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#1317 [15:43] <codylyon> i need hlep
#1318 [15:43] <codylyon> modding
#1319 [15:43] <codylyon> where do i go
#1320 [15:44] <codylyon> is there a specific chat to help me mod?
#1321 [15:44] <K2> This chat dont support mods :l
#1322 [15:44] <codylyon> yes
#1323 [15:44] <codylyon> my question was is there a chat to help me mod
#1324 [15:44] <codylyon> is there?
#1325 [15:44] <K2> oh, no idea.
#1326 [15:44] <codylyon> hm
#1327 [15:44] <codylyon> oh
#1328 [15:44] <K2> im here for help myself
#1329 [15:44] <codylyon> haha ok
#1330 [15:45] <codylyon> lets try a private message
#1331 [15:45] <oldtopman> ?? scold/pm
#1332 [15:45] <K2> doubt that'd help
#1333 [15:45] <VoxelHead> scold/pm: We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1334 [15:45] <codylyon> @Grim_Reaper is there a chat for mod help?
#1335 [15:45] <codylyon> ah
#1336 [15:45] <codylyon> well
#1337 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> codylyon - Try #risucraft
#1338 [15:45] <codylyon> thank you
#1339 [15:45] <K2> yayy help has arrived
#1340 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Or #mcp-modding if you're looking for mod coding help
#1341 [15:45] <K2> my turn :3
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#1343 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> k2 - Has it ever worked before?
#1344 [15:46] <K2> yeah, i can join without problem's.
#1345 [15:46] <codylyon> #risucraft
#1346 [15:46] <K2> it's getting other's in my server
#1347 [15:46] <codylyon> #mcp-modding
#1348 [15:46] <codylyon> umm
#1349 [15:46] <K2> cody
#1350 [15:46] <codylyon> its not working haha
#1351 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> /join #risucraft
#1352 [15:46] <K2> /join #----
#1353 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Type that ^
#1354 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> K2 - Hosting from home?
#1355 [15:47] <K2> Yeah..
#1356 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> K2 - Behind a router? Port forwarded?
#1357 [15:48] <K2> I think my problem may be with portforwarding.
#1358 [15:48] <K2> Since my routers a complete douche it decides to not portforward
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#1360 [15:48] <K2> i've attempted it
#1361 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you walk us through how you've attempted it? Perhaps we can spot the issue there
#1362 [15:48] <K2> mmk.
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#1366 [15:50] <K2> found my ip address - typed it in search browser - gone onto router interface - Gone onto 'Game and application sharing' - Create a new game or application -
#1367 [15:50] <K2> Manual entry of port maps
#1368 [15:50] <K2> and
#1369 [15:50] <K2> ths comes up
#1370 [15:50] <K2> Protocol Port Range Translate To ... Trigger Protocol Trigger Port
#1371 [15:51] <K2> with boxes under each peice of text.
#1372 [15:51] <K2> 2 boxes under port range
#1373 [15:51] <K2> 2 boxes under port range
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#1375 [15:51] <K2> with the text followed by what i've entered on my router settigs = Protocol Port Range Translate To ... Trigger Protocol Trigger Port No port maps defined for this game or application. to
#1376 [15:51] <free2mine> so much esier to run it remotly :p
#1377 [15:52] <K2> well everything is blank basically.
#1378 [15:52] <K2> -protocol has ANY
#1379 [15:52] <K2> and both port range boxes have 25565
#1380 [15:52] <K2> trigger protocal has ANY
#1381 [15:52] <K2> and translate to and trigger port boxes are left blank. Added then applied.
#1382 [15:52] <K2> Router's been rebooted
#1383 [15:53] <K2> and i've tested it on yousignal website
#1384 [15:53] <K2> and i get
#1385 [15:53] <K2> Port 25565 is closed on (router IP)
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#1392 [15:57] <Chad> I just purchased the minecraft game and got a confirmation number. How do i access the premium game?
#1393 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> K2 - Have you launched the server before checking the port?
#1394 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Chad - By downloading it from minecraft.net/download
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#1397 [15:58] <Chad> Thanks. Trying now.
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#1400 [15:59] <Chad> Changing computers.
#1401 [15:59] <Chad> going to computer that will need to have it installed.
#1402 [15:59] <K2> Lemme try now vulpine
#1403 [15:59] <Chad> will rejoin chat
#1404 [15:59] <Chad> thans.
#1405 [16:00] <Chad> thanks;)
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#1408 [16:01] <K2> omg it says its open :D
#1409 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> !check K2
#1410 [16:01] <K2> Aubot - GreyVulpine's halfway fixed my problem
#1411 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> !check 79.75.75.149
#1412 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Works here
#1413 [16:02] <K2> :D
#1414 [16:02] <K2> wait
#1415 [16:02] <K2> are you on my server?
#1416 [16:02] <Bugboy1028> No.
#1417 [16:02] <K2> hmmm
#1418 [16:02] <Bugboy1028> The bot is checking if it's online
#1419 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> No. I just instructed the bot to query your ip address
#1420 [16:03] <K2> Could i hassle someone to join my server just to make sure the problem's not from my side but from my friends?
#1421 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Have your friends join with 79.75.75.149
#1422 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> It'll work.
#1423 [16:03] <Bugboy1028> ermm
#1424 [16:03] <K2> She's currently not home, that's why i'm asking if someone else could join
#1425 [16:03] <Bugboy1028> K2
#1426 [16:04] <free2mine> K2 i will :p
#1427 [16:04] <Bugboy1028> Did you place whitelist?
#1428 [16:04] <K2> 1 sec.
#1429 [16:04] <K2> lemme put you on whitelist
#1430 [16:04] <Bugboy1028> XD
#1431 [16:04] <free2mine> ok :p ant1chr15t
#1432 [16:04] <Bugboy1028> <----
#1433 [16:04] <Bugboy1028> Same nick
#1434 [16:04] <K2> 1 sec :D
#1435 [16:05] <K2> okay , added you both
#1436 [16:05] <K2> 79.75.75.149
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#1438 [16:05] <K2> ohohoho
#1439 [16:05] <K2> hold up
#1440 [16:05] <K2> got 2 players max on
#1441 [16:06] <K2> lemme put 10
#1442 [16:06] <free2mine> no need K2
#1443 [16:06] <free2mine> all is fine
#1444 [16:06] <free2mine> :D
#1445 [16:06] <Bugboy1028> yep, all is fine
#1446 [16:06] <Bugboy1028> bit of lag from server thought
#1447 [16:06] <K2> oh
#1448 [16:06] <Bugboy1028> you argee, free2mine ?
#1449 [16:06] <free2mine> yup
#1450 [16:06] <K2> would that be to do with RAM or such?
#1451 [16:06] <free2mine> i get lag on everything mobile broadband
#1452 [16:06] <free2mine> :(
#1453 [16:06] <Bugboy1028> ??< ram
#1454 [16:06] <free2mine> no K2 internet speed but maybe ram too
#1455 [16:07] <K2> ok, got server back on with 10 players max.
#1456 [16:07] <Bugboy1028> GreyVulpine, any index with ram?
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#1459 [16:08] <K2> it may just be due to my dad possibly on his laptop and my brother online on his ps3...
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#1463 [16:09] <free2mine> K2 if the lag does get that bad i would recomend buying a minecraft server
#1464 [16:09] <K2> BUYING a minecraft server? didnt know you could do that ha.
#1465 [16:09] <free2mine> yeh :p
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#1467 [16:09] <free2mine> not to expencive either
#1468 [16:09] <free2mine> depends
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#1470 [16:10] <K2> ah i see.
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#1483 [16:36] <chad> I'm trying to download
#1484 [16:36] <chad> the applidccatfg
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#1486 [16:37] <bro> guys i need help getting past a black screen during an update
#1487 [16:38] <chad> anyone have any idea whny i cand se my typing
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#1492 [16:39] <chad> I'm trying to type my
#1493 [16:39] <chad> quesiton but can't see my typing
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#1495 [16:39] <chad> I've purcha=sed theminecraft game but cn't download it b/c it says i don't have a premium status
#1496 [16:40] <bro> i bought the game but it keeps saying done loading but freezes
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#1514 [17:16] <edungeon123> minecraft was accidently deleted from this computer when trying to get rid of spyware and now we can't get it to download again. It was paid for in November.
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#1516 [17:35] <kwakers> Trouble starting a "Play Demo", problem with video card driver ???
#1517 [17:37] <kwakers> I cant play minecraft because the initial start up comes back with error message saying failed ??
#1518 [17:38] <kwakers> ,,saying I need to update my video card driver ????,,,,,but its the most up to date driver there is ????
#1519 [17:39] <Morrolan> How did you update your video drivers?
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#1522 [17:42] <Morrolan> Huh.
#1523 [17:42] <Morrolan> Well.
#1524 [17:42] <Morrolan> Case closed.
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#1538 [18:18] <frustratedmom> Every time I try to download the game it sends me to the minecraft.net opage and then wont let me log in?
#1539 [18:19] <cestislife> Login using your email address that you have registered on Mojang
#1540 [18:19] <frustratedmom> I have tried
#1541 [18:19] <cestislife> What does the error say?
#1542 [18:19] <frustratedmom> it tells me its not valid but I can log in to mojang with it?
#1543 [18:19] <cestislife> It may take a few hours for it to register.
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#1545 [18:21] <frustratedmom> Ok, I will give it a few hours thanks!
#1546 [18:22] <frustratedmom> Any suggestion if it doesnt work later tonight?
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#1548 [18:25] <Oshiro93> Bonjour je viens pour savoir combien de temps met mojang pour nous répondre après un mail envoyé ? Cela fait bientot 2 semaines que j'attend une réponse
#1549 [18:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> Oshiro93: english only here
#1550 [18:26] <Morrolan> For their first response it'll take them two or three weeks. After that it'll be faster.
#1551 [18:26] <Oshiro93> Bonjour je viens pour savoir combien de temps met mojang pour nous répondre après un mail envoyé ? Cela fait bientot 2 semaines que j'attend une réponse
#1552 [18:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> Oshiro93: english only here please, then we can help
#1553 [18:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> we dont speak french
#1554 [18:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> or at least most of us dont
#1555 [18:26] <Oshiro93> Hello I come to know how long it takes Mojang to respond to us after an email sent? It has been nearly two weeks I wait for a response
#1556 [18:26] <Morrolan> He's wondering when he'll hear back from Mojang, saying that it's already taken two weeks.
#1557 [18:27] <Morrolan> Oshiro93 - As I said, it takes them two to three weeks, normally.
#1558 [18:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> isnt about 2 weeks their average response time
#1559 [18:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> yea
#1560 [18:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> Oshiro93: wait another week or so, theyre snowed under atm
#1561 [18:27] <Morrolan> Oshiro93 - Since there's winter holidays, new year and all that stuff though, it'll take them even longer this time.
#1562 [18:28] <Oshiro93> Okay thanks
#1563 [18:28] <Morrolan> Well, by the time they pick up work again, their backlog will have reached a month, it seems. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
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#1566 [18:30] <PandaMan> Hello. Can anyone here help with getting MC to run with Puppy Linux?
#1567 [18:30] <Morrolan> Puppy what?
#1568 [18:30] <Morrolan> Err, what's the issue?
#1569 [18:31] <PandaMan> I can open the launcher and log in but then it just goes to a black screen
#1570 [18:31] <PandaMan> No error messages, or anything
#1571 [18:31] <Morrolan> What Java are you using?
#1572 [18:31] <cestislife|atwork> Puppy Linux, that's a first
#1573 [18:31] <PandaMan> jre 1.7 update 9
#1574 [18:32] <cestislife|atwork> There is jre 1.7 update 10 available.
#1575 [18:32] <Morrolan> Are you familiar with the console/terminal?
#1576 [18:32] <PandaMan> I know of it... not how to use it though
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#1578 [18:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> a linux user who doesnt use the terminal? O.o
#1579 [18:32] <PandaMan> I'm new to Linux
#1580 [18:32] <Morrolan> Eh, with a bit of luck it'll suport Drag&Drop. Open the terminal, and drag the minecraft.jar in in.
#1581 [18:32] <Morrolan> in it.*
#1582 [18:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> wait, terms can do that? O.o
#1583 [18:33] <Morrolan> Then log in, and let it crash. Afterwards copy all the output you got in the terminal to www.pastebin.com or similar.
#1584 [18:33] <Morrolan> Most modern terminals support drag&drop, yea.
#1585 [18:33] <PandaMan> I can't drag and drop it
#1586 [18:34] <Morrolan> As in? Nothing happens when you drop it in?
#1587 [18:34] <PandaMan> Yes
#1588 [18:34] <Morrolan> *sigh*
#1589 [18:34] <Morrolan> Fine. Where is your minecraft.jar located?
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#1591 [18:34] <PandaMan> in my applications directory
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#1593 [18:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> applications directory?
#1594 [18:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> this sounds more like mac os
#1595 [18:36] <PandaMan> Well it's not... :P
#1596 [18:36] <Morrolan> How did you stumble across that OS, anyway? :P
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#1598 [18:36] <PandaMan> It was installed on this computer when I got it. It was a freebie
#1599 [18:36] <cestislife|atwork> Puppy!
#1600 [18:36] <Morrolan> Ah. :)
#1601 [18:37] <PandaMan> I thought I'd leave it on here and try it out
#1602 [18:37] <cestislife|atwork> Well it has an interesting name for one
#1603 [18:37] <PandaMan> yeah... weird name. I think it's Puppy Slacko
#1604 [18:38] <Morrolan> Well, chances are it's an Ubuntu derivative, so it might be /usr/share/applications, I guess.
#1605 [18:38] <Morrolan> In terminal, issue a "cd /usr/share/applications", then an "ls", and see whether it lists the minecraft.jar file.
#1606 [18:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> argh what
#1607 [18:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> puppy runs all users as root?
#1608 [18:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.O
#1609 [18:38] <Morrolan> Hmm?
#1610 [18:38] <PandaMan> no, it's in /root/my-applications
#1611 [18:39] <Morrolan> Huh, oh, you're using root. That's kind of a bad practice.
#1612 [18:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> Morrolan: puppylinux runs all users as root
#1613 [18:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> there isnt a way to not be root
#1614 [18:39] <Morrolan> WhereIsMySpoon - Oh, well.
#1615 [18:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> Morrolan: Yes.
#1616 [18:39] <Maulss> Hey guys, know a way to contact Mojang?
#1617 [18:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> Well.
#1618 [18:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> Maulss: email
#1619 [18:39] <Morrolan> Eh, given that it's a single user system, it's not *too* bad. But still odd.
#1620 [18:39] <Maulss> Tried, it's support@mojang.com, right?
#1621 [18:39] <Morrolan> PandaMan - Okay. Then cd to that directory instead. (Good you found out where it is :D)
#1622 [18:39] <cestislife|atwork> Yep
#1623 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> No
#1624 [18:40] <Maulss> Tried several times.
#1625 [18:40] <Morrolan> Maulss - Use the formular online.
#1626 [18:40] <Morrolan> ?? email
#1627 [18:40] <Morrolan> Er
#1628 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1629 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1630 [18:40] <Morrolan> Yes, that. ;)
#1631 [18:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? mojang/email
#1632 [18:40] <VoxelHead> mojang/email: You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1633 [18:40] <cestislife|atwork> Oh they changed it, right.
#1634 [18:40] <Maulss> Tried that aswell :P
#1635 [18:40] <Maulss> A few times
#1636 [18:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> Maulss: and how long did you wait
#1637 [18:40] <Morrolan> Maulss - Well, it'll take them tree to four weeks to respond.
#1638 [18:40] <cestislife|atwork> Then now you have to do, is wait.
#1639 [18:40] <Morrolan> three, even.
#1640 [18:40] <Maulss> Well, waiting for like a week now.
#1641 [18:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> Maulss: thats not enough
#1642 [18:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> Maulss: 3-4 weeks atm is the backlog due to xmas
#1643 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1644 [18:41] <Maulss> Yeah, well I meant like a week - from work days.
#1645 [18:41] <cestislife|atwork> And the upcoming new years
#1646 [18:41] <Maulss> Not counting the weekends
#1647 [18:41] <cestislife|atwork> Still not enough my friend.
#1648 [18:41] <Maulss> But eh, thanks for the help!
#1649 [18:41] <Morrolan> PandaMan - Did the "cd /root/my-applications" succeed?
#1650 [18:42] <PandaMan> Okay Morrolan, I cd'd that directory and minecraft.jar showed up
#1651 [18:42] <PandaMan> lol, I'm a slow typer
#1652 [18:42] <Morrolan> Good. Then try a 'java -jar minecraft.jar' and see whether this is launching it.
#1653 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Need to learn to tab-complete.
#1654 [18:42] <PandaMan> yup, that launched it
#1655 [18:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> PandaMan: for your information, that invokes "java" with the argument -jar which tells java to take a jar, then you specify which jar to launch
#1656 [18:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> just so you're learning whilst terminaling :D
#1657 [18:43] <PandaMan> okay, thanks
#1658 [18:43] <Morrolan> PandaMan - Well, once it crashed, copy the console's output to www.pastebin.com, and we shall see.
#1659 [18:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> you can use "java -jar x.jar" to launch any jar, just replace x with the name
#1660 [18:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> and you can use java to launch .java files too, but the syntax for that is different
#1661 [18:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> anyhow, i go off topic
#1662 [18:44] <cestislife|atwork> :P
#1663 [18:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> cestislife|atwork: what's cest?
#1664 [18:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> im assuming your name is just "cest is life" shortened
#1665 [18:44] <Morrolan> Central European Summer Time, obviously.
#1666 [18:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> <_>
#1667 [18:45] <cestislife|atwork> No idea, whereismyspoon
#1668 [18:45] <cestislife|atwork> Random ign I picked
#1669 [18:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S ok
#1670 [18:45] <PandaMan> Okay, it's not crashing. The screen is just staying black
#1671 [18:45] <PandaMan> no error message
#1672 [18:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> PandaMan: this a vanilla install?
#1673 [18:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> you not got any mods right?
#1674 [18:45] <PandaMan> nope, no mods
#1675 [18:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> are you 100% about that?
#1676 [18:46] <PandaMan> yes
#1677 [18:46] <cestislife|atwork> Lol
#1678 [18:46] <PandaMan> downloaded it straight from minecraf.net
#1679 [18:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok, are you using proprietry or open source gfx drivers?
#1680 [18:46] <PandaMan> *minecraft
#1681 [18:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you are using the default open source ones, you might wanna download the proprietry ones
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#1683 [18:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> since i dunno how good puppy is with this and proprietry ones are almost always better anyhow
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#1685 [18:47] <PandaMan> By default open source ones, do you mean the Mesa -GXL thingy?
#1686 [18:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> whatever puppy has defaulted to
#1687 [18:47] <PandaMan> okay, I'll have a quick google
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#1689 [18:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> PandaMan: type this command in without the quotes: "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver"
#1690 [18:49] <Billtard> Good evening, I just started playing the pocket edition and got my brother into it. We dont live in the same town so I'm trying to figure out how to run pockettool to help us with connecting over the internet so we can both play in the same world. Anyone here familure with that or should i go to a different room?
#1691 [18:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> Billtard mods
#1692 [18:49] <VoxelHead> Billtard: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1693 [18:49] <VoxelHead> Billtard: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1694 [18:49] <Morrolan> Billtard - Only few people here have ever tried the pocket version, let alone any experience with it. :S
#1695 [18:50] <Billtard> cool wasn't sure where to start :) i'll pop over to mods
#1696 [18:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> PandaMan: then give me the output in www.pastie.org or whatever paste service you prefer
#1697 [18:50] <Morrolan> The forums (www.minecraftforum.net) might be worth a shot, too.
#1698 [18:50] <cestislife|atwork> I have tried it, and I didn't even know it had mods
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#1700 [18:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> PandaMan: also after that, please give me the output of "lspci -v | less"
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#1702 [18:51] <Billtard> I've been on the forums searching i haven't found much on troubleshooting maybe i need to post. I figured chat would be easier/quicker
#1703 [18:51] <Billtard> thanks guys :)
#1704 [18:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> GL
#1705 [18:51] <cestislife|atwork> Bai
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#1707 [18:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> PandaMan: done that yet?
#1708 [18:54] <cestislife|atwork> Fun fact, Googled, cest, at least c'est means "this is" in French lol
#1709 [18:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> yep
#1710 [18:54] <PandaMan> lol, this may sound stupid, WhereIsMySpoon, but I can't type in the line before the "grep driver@ bit
#1711 [18:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> PandaMan: what do you mean you "cant type in the line"
#1712 [18:55] <PandaMan> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | (<---) grep driver
#1713 [18:55] <PandaMan> that character
#1714 [18:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> copy it
#1715 [18:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> from somewhere
#1716 [18:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> the internets
#1717 [18:56] <cestislife|atwork> Lol
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#1719 [18:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> its alt code 124
#1720 [18:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> hold down alt and press 124 on the numpad
#1721 [18:56] <cestislife|atwork> Can't you do Shift + \
#1722 [18:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh wait
#1723 [18:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> those prolly wont work on linux
#1724 [18:56] <fixit> when I try to login to mojang, it says that I havent verified the email address when I have already verified the email address
#1725 [18:56] <cestislife|atwork> Or does that not work on Linux
#1726 [18:57] <cestislife|atwork> Oh
#1727 [18:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> PandaMan: do you not have a | on your keyboard/
#1728 [18:57] <fixit> any ideas on what is going on with this?
#1729 [18:57] <PandaMan> well I do, but I assume it's a Windows keyboard because that key produces < normally and > with shift
#1730 [18:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> wat
#1731 [18:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
#1732 [18:58] <PandaMan> iikr
#1733 [18:58] <PandaMan> *ikr
#1734 [18:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> usually shift-\ produces |
#1735 [18:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> or shift-~
#1736 [18:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> er
#1737 [18:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> shift-#
#1738 [18:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> even
#1739 [18:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> or soemtimes shift-`
#1740 [18:58] <cestislife|atwork> Lol
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#1743 [18:59] <PandaMan> that's it! |||||
#1744 [18:59] <PandaMan> lol
#1745 [18:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> yay
#1746 [18:59] <fixit> any ideas guys?
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#1748 [18:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> cestislife: welcome back xD
#1749 [18:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> fixit: not really, wait a while, maybe its taking some time
#1750 [18:59] <cestislife> Thanks :p
#1751 [19:00] <cestislife> Android app is ubstable~
#1752 [19:00] <cestislife> Anyways
#1753 [19:00] <fixit> ok thatnks a bunch I thought I was going crazy! LOL
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#1756 [19:00] <fixit> thanks for the hep
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#1759 [19:02] <PandaMan> it says "bash: cat/etc/X11/xorg.conf: no such file or directory
#1760 [19:03] <Morrolan> Missing a space between the cat and the slash.
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#1762 [19:05] <PandaMan> okay, it says... give me a sec (for some reason I can't copy test from the console)
#1763 [19:06] <Morrolan> Once you selected something in the console, hit enter, and it should be in the clipboard.
#1764 [19:06] <Morrolan> Apart from that there might be right click -> copy, too.
#1765 [19:06] <PandaMan> neither of those worked
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#1767 [19:07] <PandaMan> Driver "vesa" hashtag (again my keyboard is messed up) card0driver
#1768 [19:08] <PandaMan> lol it's shift + 3... #
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#1772 [19:13] <Rob_> i get a error message "connection refused: connect" when i try to connect by LAN how do i fix this
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#1775 [19:15] <Rob_> i get a error message "connection refused: connect" when i try to connect by LAN how do i fix this
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#1777 [19:18] <Rob_> i get a error message "connection refused: connect" when i try to connect by LAN how do i fix this
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#1779 [19:20] <Rob_> i get a error message "connection refused: connect" when i try to connect by LAN how do i fix this
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#1784 [19:24] <marko12356789> i play minecraft on the mac i can no longer access my minecraft file what do i do?
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#1787 [19:25] <marko12356789> i play minecraft on the mac i cant access my mine craft files anymore what do i do?
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#1791 [19:32] <white_squid> hi -- this seems real simple but although ive looked at account migration issues and resetting passwords, nothing seems to work for the past 4 days.. we bought minecraft already but cant get in. my ephew is frustrated and id just like to help him out
#1792 [19:32] <white_squid> n
#1793 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> Purchasing an account goes like this. You register an account at Mojang.com. You verify the email upon registration. You use that Mojang.com account to purchase minecraft. Once you purchase minecraft, you log into your mojang.com account to create a Minecraft profile and username.
#1794 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Then, you'll be able to log into the launcher that you downloaded from minecraft.net/download, with your email address and password
#1795 [19:35] <white_squid> ok cool, we already made a userame and profile
#1796 [19:35] <white_squid> we're just all excited i guess
#1797 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> Are you getting any specific errors when trying to log in/access the game?
#1798 [19:36] <white_squid> just passwords never match even after reset
#1799 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Are you getting a "Login Failed" with login?
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#1801 [19:36] <white_squid> yes
#1802 [19:37] <white_squid> lol this reminds me of my first go kart -- i accidnetally put the oil cap in the gas tank
#1803 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Then yes, the password isn't matching up to the username that you're putting in. Are you sure you're using the right email address for your username?
#1804 [19:38] <white_squid> i will check it out
#1805 [19:38] <white_squid> no ones writing anything down
#1806 [19:38] <white_squid> argh
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#1808 [19:43] <Omen> Hey guys, using Vanilla or bukkit I am unable to craft Sugar/Paper or bread. I finally got frustrated and used essentials on bukkit to look at the items to see the issue with them.. my wheat is itemid 296:-1 and my sugarcane is 338:-1
#1809 [19:44] <Omen> what planted, and harvested on vanilla.. can't be crafted, so I looked at it on bukkit.. if I give myself normal wheat or sugarcane it works
#1810 [19:44] <Omen> wheat*
#1811 [19:44] <Omen> what exactly could be causing this?
#1812 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Honestly have no idea what could be causing that on vanilla.
#1813 [19:47] <Omen> Hell, I just looked at all the seeds I got from breaking the wheat, I get 295:-1
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#1816 [19:49] <white_squid> yes Grey we're on a new macbook and for one the privacy settings were real restricted. thanks! not in yet but closer
#1817 [19:49] <DiskDaemon> That certainly sounds like some past mod has affected that world in an unexpected manner
#1818 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> Omen: Please start a new world with a vanilla installation of Minecraft, get some seeds from long grass, make a hoe, and experiment again near some water.
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#1820 [19:51] <Omen> would client mods have *any* effect on the server? I really don't want to abandon reis and optifine
#1821 [19:51] <Omen> I can't see the server allowing the client to modify items though..
#1822 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> Omen: Please abandon all mods for the purpose of troubleshooting. Making a backup of your .minecraft/ world is a good idea too, before experimenting.
#1823 [19:53] <Omen> Alright.
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#1830 [20:04] <Hagurumon> I need help,whoever's here,Whenever i open m game,i just got it,it makes me Update,and when i choose yes,It stops at the same point,and when i say not now,it's Stop's at Done
#1831 [20:04] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#1832 [20:05] <Hagurumon> I've disabled my Firewall,for when i play,and it doesn't make a diffrence
#1833 [20:05] <DiskDaemon> Notice that I did not mention anything about a firewall
#1834 [20:05] <Hagurumon> It always stop's at Downloading Packages
#1835 [20:05] <Hagurumon> Oh
#1836 [20:05] <Hagurumon> XD
#1837 [20:05] <Hagurumon> I'll try that
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#1841 [20:13] <Hagurumon> how do i disable my anti virus software
#1842 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic114351.html
#1843 [20:15] <DiskDaemon> Don't disable it all the time though - just temporarily, for the purpose of checking to see if it's responsible for causing the miencraft updating problem
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#1846 [20:22] <tom_> can u help me ive been waiting about 4-5 hours for minecraft to work because i brought it money has been threw but i dont have it
#1847 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> tom_: What do you see in the My Games section at https://account.mojang.com/me
#1848 [20:23] <Hagurumon> I have done that,but it hasn't work,did i go full retard and miss it? XD
#1849 [20:24] <DiskDaemon> Hagurumon: A crash report can provide us with more details about what precisely may be causing the problem http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#1852 [20:25] <tom_> it says somin about minecraft importing
#1853 [20:25] <DiskDaemon> tom_: That message is there in case you have your account on minecraft.net - which would only be true if you purchased the game many months ago.
#1854 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> tom_: So, it seems that your attempt to purchase may not have proven to be successful, which explains why you are experiencing what you have been
#1855 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> tom_: What have you used to attempt to perform the purchase?
#1856 [20:26] <tom_> but i brought it today! i even kept the long recipt code thing????
#1857 [20:27] <tom_> i kept it in notebook because thats what it said
#1858 [20:27] <DiskDaemon> tom_: Well done. I have some receipts from the dairy here too, which say declined. A receipt does not mean that it was successful.
#1859 [20:27] <DiskDaemon> tom_: What form of payment did you use to attempt the payment?
#1860 [20:27] <tom_> but it took the money out of the bank
#1861 [20:27] <tom_> pay pal
#1862 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> tom_: Then paypal will have a transaction id for the transaction. That is the transaction id that you need to have for when you contact Mojang customer support
#1863 [20:28] <Hagurumon> I've used PayPal too,I actually bought it maybe 1 hour and a half ago,and i've been having problems with it since then
#1864 [20:28] <tom_> i dont have it sorry i never knew i needed it
#1865 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1866 [20:29] <Hagurumon> I've also wrote down the details in a book of info
#1867 [20:29] <tom_> i have allready contacked them i sent a email ageas abo but they havnt replyed since
#1868 [20:29] <tom_> *ago
#1869 [20:29] <tom_> well at all
#1870 [20:29] <DiskDaemon> tom_: How long ago?
#1871 [20:29] <tom_> dno ill have a look
#1872 [20:30] <tom_> carnt find it some other dude gave me the link?
#1873 [20:31] <DiskDaemon> tom_: You can't find the email that you sent to them?
#1874 [20:31] <tom_> no it wasin chat to if u can see recant chat he was talking to me and then he gave me a link
#1875 [20:32] <DiskDaemon> tom_: Here's a tip - emails are not sent to receive customer support. Please follow the customer support link that I provided just now.
#1876 [20:32] <tom_> whats transection id
#1877 [20:32] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#1878 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> It's your proof of purchase. Without it Mojang are highly unlikely to help with account issues.
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#1881 [20:36] <tom_> how long will it be till they get back in touch
#1882 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1883 [20:37] <tom_> is there anythink i can do while waiting for them to get back in touch
#1884 [20:38] <tom_> ???
#1885 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> Not really.
#1886 [20:39] <tom_> OMFG is there no like codes i can use till they fix the problem
#1887 [20:39] <cestislife> I don't think so.
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#1889 [20:40] <PaladinPete> So checking out the "/topic" for this channel...am I allowed to ask for texture pack help in here?
#1890 [20:40] <tom_> could he adleast see because its stupid
#1891 [20:40] <DiskDaemon> tom_: You have a problem where you paid for it, and haven't received it, right? No codez can help you there.
#1892 [20:40] <cestislife> Who is he?
#1893 [20:40] <tom_> because mojang likes ripping people off!!
#1894 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> tom_: That's slander and is not true.
#1895 [20:41] <cestislife> You have to realise it's a small company and processes may be slow.
#1896 [20:41] <tom_> but quick to take the money
#1897 [20:41] <cestislife> Plus it's the holidays, a lot of purchases at this time
#1898 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> They are currently slammed due to over 400,000 new accounts being created on xmas day. Only on that one day.
#1899 [20:41] <cestislife> ^
#1900 [20:41] <cestislife> Please be reasonable.
#1901 [20:42] <tom_> and well today is not xmas day!
#1902 [20:42] <cestislife> It's barely a week after Christmas.
#1903 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> Ands Mojang are curerntly working on emails from December 8. Remember that.
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#1905 [20:42] <cestislife> That is for Xmas day alone, what about the days after?
#1906 [20:43] <cestislife> Again, please be patient and check my regularly.
#1907 [20:43] <tom_> and mojang are quick to take money but are slow to give memberships
#1908 [20:43] <cestislife> Mojang does not process the payment themselves.
#1909 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> tom_: When things are doner correctly it's a matter of seconds.
#1910 [20:44] <tom_> then give me somin that i can do eg. beable to play minecraft
#1911 [20:44] <cestislife> You can play the demo.
#1912 [20:44] <tom_> MULTIPLAYER
#1913 [20:45] * cestislife sighs
#1913 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> You can successfully pay for the game, create your user profile and go play.
#1914 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> If something has gone wrong with your attempt to pay, then you need customer support. That's it.
#1915 [20:45] <tom_> ow so i have to spend double the money
#1916 [20:46] <tom_> THE MONEY HAS ALL READY BEEN TOOK OUT OF MY ACCOUNT
#1917 [20:46] <DiskDaemon> tom_: If you want to be damned-well impatient, yes. But there's no guarantee that your initial problem won't happen again.
#1918 [20:46] <DiskDaemon> Be patient
#1919 [20:47] <cestislife> What exactly was his problem?
#1920 [20:47] <tom_> well im sure u can give me a membership instead of waiting for ages arguing wiv u all
#1921 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> tom_ - We would if we worked for Mojang, but we don't
#1922 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> cestislife: Her paid, and hasn't received his accoutn yet
#1923 [20:47] <tom_> yes!
#1924 [20:47] <cestislife> As in the email confirmation?
#1925 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> tom_ - This channel is staffed by community volunteers, who aren't paid by, nor is employed by Mojang. We cannot do anything to help you credit your account
#1926 [20:48] <tom_> no but money has been took out of paypal
#1927 [20:48] <DiskDaemon> tom_: If no money has been taken from paypal, then your attempt to pay has definately failed.
#1928 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> tom_ - What we can do, is suggest contacting Mojang Proper, for account support. We don't assist with account issues here, we have no power over that
#1929 [20:49] <cestislife> He meant it has been taken out, DiskDaemon
#1930 [20:49] <Bugboy1028> Tom, Mojang is currently experiencing high load of email so please wait
#1931 [20:49] <tom_> no i want my membership!
#1932 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> tom_: Nobody here can do that for you.
#1933 [20:49] <cestislife> We, do not work for Mojang.
#1934 [20:49] <tom_> then get someone who can
#1935 [20:50] <Bugboy1028> tom_. sure. Hold on.
#1936 [20:50] <DiskDaemon> tom_: We have, that's the customer support location we told you about
#1937 [20:50] <tom_> .....................
#1938 [20:50] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1939 [20:50] <tom_> ive done that 3 times
#1940 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> When was this?
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#1942 [20:51] <tom_> when was what
#1943 [20:51] <Bugboy1028> when did you contact Mojang?
#1944 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> If you had read this: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back- -- You would have seen that Mojang's working on a backlog of Emails, from Dec 8th
#1945 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> When did you send your support ticket in?
#1946 [20:51] <tom_> earlier
#1947 [20:51] <ken_> Hello I just bought Minecraft and downloaded it
#1948 [20:51] <Bugboy1028> ken_ , AND?
#1949 [20:52] <ken_> Now it will not let me login to the game
#1950 [20:52] <cestislife> Did you use your email to login?
#1951 [20:52] <tom_> whats ur name and password ill try
#1952 [20:52] <cestislife> Lol.
#1953 [20:52] <Bugboy1028> tom_, NO.
#1954 [20:52] <ken_> yes
#1955 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Don't even go there tom_.
#1956 [20:52] * cestislife facepalms
#1956 [20:52] <tom_> kk
#1957 [20:53] <tom_> only being nice?
#1958 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> How about, no.
#1959 [20:53] <ken_> I can not istall it or login
#1960 [20:53] <cestislife> Ken, did you recently bought it.
#1961 [20:53] <tom_> ken do u have skype
#1962 [20:53] <Bugboy1028> ken_, ignore tom_ .
#1963 [20:53] <tom_> i know him?
#1964 [20:53] <Bugboy1028> How?
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#1966 [20:54] <morton> anyone here?
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#1968 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1969 [20:54] <cestislife> Hi morton
#1970 [20:54] <tom_> bros m8
#1971 [20:54] <Bugboy1028> morton, ask the question
#1972 [20:54] <ken_> yes about a half hour ago, I did all the e-mail confirmation links
#1973 [20:54] <morton> anyone know if the map in minecraft can show other players (for PC)?
#1974 [20:54] <Bugboy1028> tom_, you're lying now
#1975 [20:54] <cestislife> It may take a while for it to register Ken, Mojang is currently very snowed in on emails
#1976 [20:54] <cestislife> It can morton
#1977 [20:54] <tom_> ken try to log in with ur minecraft name not ur email
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#1979 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> tom_ - Stop giving out bad advice.
#1980 [20:55] <cestislife> The map you craft, I assume?
#1981 [20:55] <morton> yea
#1982 [20:55] <tom_> what im being nice
#1983 [20:55] <cestislife> Then yes, it can.
#1984 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Being nice has nothing to do with it. Give out bad advice, we will kick you
#1985 [20:55] <morton> do i need to do anythuing to the map to make it show other players?
#1986 [20:55] <tom_> then ill sue mojang
#1987 [20:55] <morton> i've tried it , but it doesnt show any other players ont he map
#1988 [20:55] <cestislife> No you don't :)
#1989 [20:56] <cestislife> Oh?
#1990 [20:56] <Bugboy1028> GreyVulpine, you should be here four day ago!
#1991 [20:56] <tom_> why was noone her
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#1995 [20:58] <tom_> everyone go onto google and type in 2 girls 1 cup :D
#1996 [20:58] <cestislife> morton, other players might need to have a map too
#1997 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> !k tom_
#1998 [20:58] * GreyBot kicked tom_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: om_ :<Kicks:966>)
#1999 [20:58] <cestislife> Thanks, he annoys me.
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#2001 [20:58] <morton> hmm
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#2003 [20:59] <tom_> YO
#2004 [20:59] <morton> doesnt seem to work
#2005 [20:59] <cestislife> Try cloning your map and giving it to other players
#2006 [20:59] <morton> o
#2007 [20:59] <tom_> anyone got skype it will be alot easyer to help you
#2008 [20:59] <morton> how do u clone it =D
#2009 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> tom_ - How about no. I don't trust you to help around here.
#2010 [21:00] <tom_> kk
#2011 [21:00] <tom_> can u help me
#2012 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> We already have
#2013 [21:00] <tom_> not properly
#2014 [21:00] <DiskDaemon> tom_: Is there anything else that we can help you with?
#2015 [21:00] <cestislife> morton, place an empty map with your current map in the crafting grid.
#2016 [21:00] <tom_> yes there is
#2017 [21:01] <tom_> to get someone from mojang into this chat
#2018 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> tom_ - Do you work?
#2019 [21:02] <Bugboy1028> GreyVulpine, may I pm you?
#2020 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> tom_: Are you wanting to jump the queue and get the the front of the line for help and assistance?
#2021 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Bugboy1028 - Sure
#2022 [21:02] <tom_> yes i do im a pizza delivery man
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#2024 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> tom_ - Well then, go deliver pizza. What are you doing at home?
#2025 [21:03] <Eddie> Watch out tom_. I heard people will order pizza at 23:59 tomorrow and say you're a year late when it arrives.
#2026 [21:03] <tom_> dont work yet day off :P
#2027 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> tom_ - And Mojang doesn't take a day off?
#2028 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> tom_ - I guess, you're the only person in the whole world who gets a day off
#2029 [21:04] <tom_> and and if they do ill eat the pizza its never to late
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#2032 [21:04] <tom_> and yeh
#2033 [21:04] <cestislife> Wow.
#2034 [21:04] <tom_> magic
#2035 [21:04] <cestislife> . /ignore
#2036 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> tom_ - You've been shown where to get help for your issue.
#2037 [21:05] <tom_> u there
#2038 [21:05] <Bugboy1028> tom_,- Mojang works REALLY hard for the game. They deserves a WEEK off.
#2039 [21:05] <tyteen4a03> Bugboy1028, from a customer's POV, no
#2040 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> tom_ - You can contact Mojang support at: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2041 [21:05] <tom_> then i eserve a year or 2
#2042 [21:05] <tyteen4a03> from a sane person's POV, yes
#2043 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> tom_ - Beyond that, take some time to cool off, and wait for a reply. Mojang's currently on vacation too.
#2044 [21:05] <tom_> i have contacked them
#2045 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> !kb tom_
#2046 [21:05] * GreyBot kicked tom_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: om_ :<Kicks:967>)
#2047 [21:06] <Bugboy1028> should we post this at notalwaysright.com ?
#2048 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Nah
#2049 [21:06] <cestislife> Lol
#2050 [21:06] <Bugboy1028> tyteen4a03, glad to see you again
#2051 [21:06] <tyteen4a03> ohai Bugboy1028
#2052 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> And Bugboy1028, /nicking to Notch is an instakick here. It's a russian roulette on which bot gets you.
#2053 [21:07] <Bugboy1028> ah.
#2054 [21:07] <Bugboy1028> MY idea is now bad idea . XD
#2055 [21:07] <morton> thanks a lot cestislife
#2056 [21:08] <cestislife> No problem :) that worked?
#2057 [21:08] <morton> yup
#2058 [21:08] <cestislife> Yayy
#2059 [21:09] <Bugboy1028> Oh.
#2060 [21:10] <Bugboy1028> I was helping the person hosting vanilla server. They wants to know how to permanertly sets default spawn
#2061 [21:10] <Bugboy1028> Any idea how?
#2062 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> MCedit, move spawn point
#2063 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#2064 [21:10] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#2065 [21:10] <Bugboy1028> ty
#2066 [21:11] <cestislife> Are there only 2 bots in the channel?
#2067 [21:11] <Bugboy1028> cestislife, I thinks there are three bots
#2068 [21:11] <cestislife> Who's the 3rd?
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#2070 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> AuBot, GreyBot, VoxelHead.
#2071 [21:13] <cestislife> Ah k
#2072 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> And there's a few more in the channel
#2073 [21:13] <Bugboy1028> MCWizard111, sorry, I misread the whois
#2074 [21:13] <Bugboy1028> MCWizard111, sorry, I misread the whois
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#2077 [21:19] <tyteen4a03> includine me!
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#2080 [21:27] <Hagurumon> Hey
#2081 [21:27] <Hagurumon> Does anyone have a Multiplayer Server i can join,I think playing alone is boring XD
#2082 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#2083 [21:27] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2084 [21:27] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
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#2087 [21:36] <Morno> anyone know of a autosave script i can use for my classic minecraft server on Windows?
#2088 [21:39] <tyteen4a03> Morno, these servers already autosave
#2089 [21:40] <Morno> how can i activate it?
#2090 [21:41] <tyteen4a03> Morno, you don't need to activate it
#2091 [21:42] <tyteen4a03> Morno, it is automatically saving
#2092 [21:42] <Morno> not on my Minecraft server.. i have to hit /save-all for it to save
#2093 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Then you turned off autosave with save-off
#2094 [21:44] <Morno> oh so i dont need to use /save-all?
#2095 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Nope. If you didn't turn off autosave, it saves automatically
#2096 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> /save-all just forces a save
#2097 [21:46] <Morno> ok thanks :D
#2098 [21:47] <Morno> another question why isent there a OP command for like Restart or somtin?
#2099 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Classic's been discontinued for a couple years now
#2100 [21:48] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, I'm not aware of a /save-off in classic?
#2101 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Mojang hasn't worked on it since alpha.
#2102 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Pretty sure there is one, wasn't there?
#2103 [21:48] <tyteen4a03> not that I remember
#2104 [21:48] <Morno> ok
#2105 [21:49] <Morno> what i mean about classic is no bukkit or somin
#2106 [21:49] <Morno> somtin*
#2107 [21:49] <tyteen4a03> Morno, you mean Vanilla
#2108 [21:49] <Morno> ye
#2109 [21:49] <Morno> :P
#2110 [21:50] <Morno> forgot the name:P
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#2114 [21:58] <Morno> i got some java errors in MC vanilla sometimes like socket inputstream etc whats that about?
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#2121 [22:14] <holly> hey i was coming on here to see if i could get some help, my son would love to add buildcraft to his game and i have no idea how to do this???
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#2123 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> Sorry, we don't hekp with mods here, but we can let you know where to go to get help with that
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#2125 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> holly: http://minecraftbuildcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorials/Buildcraft_Installation
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#2127 [22:20] <holly> everytime, i go to download what i think is buildcraft it is actually not it
#2128 [22:21] <holly> so ill go here and it is the real thing?
#2129 [22:21] <Morno> minecraft.net official site
#2130 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> Those instructions there are fully correct.
#2131 [22:22] <DiskDaemon> Currently mods are more like hacks. There is no official modding system for Minecraft yet.
#2132 [22:22] <DiskDaemon> What that means, is that modding is not "easy". It takes a bit of skill to get mods going
#2133 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#2134 [22:23] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2135 [22:23] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#2137 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> Please go to http://minecraftbuildcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorials/Buildcraft_Installation for instructions on how to install buildcraft
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#2144 [22:30] <holly> yea id say this is pretty hard to do
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#2147 [22:33] <greg_> i have been trying to buy mine craft but every time its tells me that I need you need to verify my emial, please help!!!!!!!!
#2148 [22:33] * Elystus is now known as Ely|coding
#2149 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> greg_: Sounds like you already know what needs to be done
#2150 [22:34] <greg_> when will I get a verication of my email, my account is greg.mcpherson@lennar.com
#2151 [22:36] <DiskDaemon> greg_: The email verification is sent out immediately. If you haven't received it, it's possible that it's ended up in a spam trap on your end of things
#2152 [22:37] <greg_> should i change to another email account, however i did change my password and rec;d the email
#2153 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> greg_: What happens when you attempt to log in to account.mojang.com
#2154 [22:38] <Morno> greg checked ur junk mails?
#2155 [22:39] <greg_> i have no junk email folders, can you send me a test email
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#2157 [22:40] <DiskDaemon> greg_: The volunteers who help here, they don't work for Minecraft or for Mojang.
#2158 [22:40] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#2160 [22:42] <MrTubs95> http://pastebin.com/JS6hQzpU WHAT IS THE CAUSE OF MY LAG
#2161 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: No caps please :)
#2162 [22:43] <MrTubs95> SORRY
#2163 [22:43] <MrTubs95> sorry*
#2164 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Lag is caused by a poor networking connection between your computer and the server.
#2165 [22:43] <MrTubs95> what is causing mine?
#2166 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: There's only one cause for lag - a slow networking connection between the client (on your machine) and the server (where you are connecting to)
#2167 [22:44] <MrTubs95> i posted my dxdiag, what is wrong with my computer thats causing my lag
#2168 [22:45] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: From waht we see of your dxdiag repotr, your computer is not responsible for any sort of lag.
#2169 [22:45] <MrTubs95> then?............
#2170 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Then - lag is due to a slow network connection to the server.
#2171 [22:46] <MrTubs95> im asking if you can tell me what i can to to reduce my lag, i understand that lag is cause by a poor network connection to the server, thats the 3rd time you've said that
#2172 [22:47] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: About the only thing that you can do to reduce lag, is to connect to a different server that has a better reponse time, or to change to an ISP with a better network speed
#2173 [22:47] <MrTubs95> even on singleplayer i lag
#2174 [22:47] <MrTubs95> BAD'
#2175 [22:48] <DiskDaemon> Then you are not suffering from alg. Lag is a slow reaction time between you and the server.
#2176 [22:48] <DiskDaemon> Is it possible that you are having a slow graphics framerate instead?
#2177 [22:49] <MrTubs95> all i know is i have to play on short and i still lag, is it my procesor? or amount of ram? video card? AND HOW DO I FIX IT
#2178 [22:49] * Corin is now known as Corin|Away
#2179 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Before a problem can be fixed, the cause of the prbolem must be understood first.
#2180 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Are you having a networking problem or a framerate problem?
#2181 [22:49] <MrTubs95> whats that
#2182 [22:50] <DiskDaemon> Please explain what you refer to when you say "that"
#2183 [22:51] <MrTubs95> networking problem or a framerate problem
#2184 [22:51] <holly> ok, i was trying to do the update for the build craft thing, and now it wont even let my son play minecraft again???
#2185 [22:51] <DiskDaemon> ?? holly win/reinst
#2186 [22:51] <DiskDaemon> ??> holly win/reinst
#2187 [22:51] <VoxelHead> holly: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2188 [22:51] <VoxelHead> holly: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2189 [22:52] <MrTubs95> so/
#2190 [22:53] <MrTubs95> ?
#2191 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> Yes?
#2192 [22:54] <MrTubs95> you done helping me?
#2193 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Not at all, I'm waiting to learnf rom you what your problem is.
#2194 [22:55] <MrTubs95> if you read up there ^ im waiting on you
#2195 [22:55] <holly> ok i am trying that now
#2196 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Without using the word "lag" (which I believe you are misunderstanding) - what seems to be the problem?
#2197 [22:55] <MrTubs95> ok, when i play minecraft i LAG
#2198 [22:56] <MrTubs95> HOW DO I FIX IT
#2199 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Please read what I said just before.
#2200 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> Without using the word "lag"
#2201 [22:56] <MrTubs95> i fall behind in movement when playing minecraft? LAG
#2202 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Lag is caused by a slow networking connection between the client and the server. If that is not your situation, then YOU DON"T HAVE LAG!
#2203 [22:57] <MrTubs95> is there anybody else here that can help me?
#2204 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> What do you mean when you say that you fall behind in movement? Can you explain that any further?
#2205 [22:57] <MrTubs95> omg
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#2207 [22:58] <cestislife|portalinmotion> What's your problem MrTubs95
#2208 [22:59] <MrTubs95> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLc1m8huWEc
#2209 [22:59] <VoxelHead> MINECRAFT - LAGGING ISSUE ( by TheNewAJProduction )
#2210 [22:59] <MrTubs95> like that just not as bad
#2211 [22:59] <MrTubs95> LAG
#2212 [22:59] <cestislife|portalinmotion> So you are experiencing rubber banding on single player?
#2213 [22:59] <MrTubs95> no rubber bands
#2214 [23:00] <MrTubs95> but lagging
#2215 [23:00] <cestislife|portalinmotion> Server lag or fps lag?
#2216 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> That looks like a very slow framerate, not lag.
#2217 [23:00] <cestislife|portalinmotion> Fps lag then
#2218 [23:00] <MrTubs95> every other person that i have ever seen calls that lag, im sorry you guys use more technical tersmj
#2219 [23:01] <MrTubs95> terms
#2220 [23:01] <cestislife|portalinmotion> That is low frame rate.
#2221 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> Most people talk about needing more memory when they ahve a hard disk space issue instead. People just don't knwo waht they're talking about, so clarification must occur.
#2222 [23:01] <MrTubs95> what ever tf it is how do i fix it
#2223 [23:02] <cestislife|portalinmotion> Are your system specs any good?
#2224 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: What is your existing framerate? Please use the F3 debug screen to find out
#2225 [23:02] <MrTubs95> average at about 40
#2226 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: That's perfectly reasonable for Minecraft
#2227 [23:03] <MrTubs95> then its not fps lag!
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#2229 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> There are a number of things that can be done to help improve performance though. First and foremost is to use better hardware.
#2230 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> Secondly, is to follow this guide http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/
#2231 [23:04] <MrTubs95> what hardware?
#2232 [23:04] <MrTubs95> video card? more ram? processor?
#2233 [23:04] <cestislife|portalinmotion> All of them.
#2234 [23:05] <cestislife|portalinmotion> Minecraft is a very resource intensive game.
#2235 [23:05] <MrTubs95> but which do i need, i have pretty good processor and good amount of ram i would say
#2236 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Let's see if we can find out what's causing the problem. Please do Shift+F3 to bring up the pie chart of performance resources
#2237 [23:06] <MrTubs95> k
#2238 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> What is taking up the largest slices, and by how much?
#2239 [23:06] <MrTubs95> gamerenderer
#2240 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> How much?
#2241 [23:06] <MrTubs95> 87%
#2242 [23:07] <MrTubs95> :O
#2243 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> Then your CPU is getting really hammered
#2244 [23:07] <MrTubs95> i dont exactly know what that means
#2245 [23:07] <cestislife|portalinmotion> Means your CPU isn't coping well
#2246 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: It means, that your computer seems to require a significant CPU upgrade
#2247 [23:07] <MrTubs95> cpu?
#2248 [23:07] <MrTubs95> what is that?
#2249 [23:07] <cestislife|portalinmotion> Processor
#2250 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> Not all computers are capable of playing Minecraft
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#2252 [23:08] <MrTubs95> http://pastebin.com/JS6hQzpU
#2253 [23:08] <MrTubs95> but
#2254 [23:08] <MrTubs95> i thought i had a good processor
#2255 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> It's a slimline computer. It has a sluggish processor. See http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/hp-pavilion-slimline-s5310y/4505-3118_7-33968312.html
#2256 [23:09] <MrTubs95> 3 ghz?
#2257 [23:10] <MrTubs95> so?
#2258 [23:10] <MrTubs95> good video card?
#2259 [23:11] <DiskDaemon> The video card isn't the problem. The debug pie chart shows that your CPU is your bottleneck
#2260 [23:11] <MrTubs95> GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
#2261 [23:11] <MrTubs95> what would be a good processor that would fit in this large tower?
#2262 [23:11] <clarjon1> That depends on the motherboard.
#2263 [23:11] <clarjon1> Do you know the socket type?
#2264 [23:11] <MrTubs95> no
#2265 [23:12] <clarjon1> You'd best find that out
#2266 [23:12] <clarjon1> That way you'll be able to find out which CPUs would be compatible with the hardware you have.
#2267 [23:13] <MrTubs95> its a slimline tower, i would think that most processor wouldnt even fit in there
#2268 [23:13] <clarjon1> Most processors are about as thick as the blades on a pair of scissors these days
#2269 [23:13] <clarjon1> But the shape and positioning of the pins are what matter
#2270 [23:13] <clarjon1> That defines the socket type
#2271 [23:14] <MrTubs95> i have no idea how to find socket types or anything?
#2272 [23:14] <clarjon1> Do you know what processor you have?
#2273 [23:14] <MrTubs95> dxdiag help? lol
#2274 [23:14] <clarjon1> sure
#2275 [23:15] <MrTubs95> http://pastebin.com/JS6hQzpU
#2276 [23:15] <cestislife|portalinmotion> AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
#2277 [23:15] <clarjon1> hmm
#2278 [23:16] <clarjon1> Looks to be a Socket AM3 processor
#2279 [23:16] <clarjon1> Also looks like you'll probably be restricted to other AMD processors
#2280 [23:16] <MrTubs95> looks to be or is?
#2281 [23:16] <clarjon1> http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/athlon-ii-x2/Pages/AMD-athlon-ii-x2-processor-model-numbers-feature-comparison.aspx
#2282 [23:16] <clarjon1> I can't say 100% as I can't access the hardware, you see.
#2283 [23:16] <clarjon1> But it looks, judging by this, that the only models sold are the SocketAM3 ones.
#2284 [23:17] <MrTubs95> how could i show you? or would you have to be here with me ha
#2285 [23:17] <clarjon1> pretty much lol
#2286 [23:17] <clarjon1> So
#2287 [23:17] <MrTubs95> so
#2288 [23:17] <clarjon1> Go look at some AMD processors, find one with better specs than your current one, and make sure it's the right socket type :)
#2289 [23:18] <clarjon1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_AM3 here's what the socket looks like, without the CPU plugged in ( sidebar )
#2290 [23:19] <MrTubs95> sir, or mam idk what you are. i dont have the first clue on how to go on this, i just want to play on far and not lag... im getting all teared up here.... but please help me :'(
#2291 [23:19] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Buy a better computer. That's a best solution.
#2292 [23:19] <MrTubs95> >:(
#2293 [23:19] <MrTubs95> i dont have that much money mayne
#2294 [23:19] <DiskDaemon> Then you'll have to work within your means
#2295 [23:20] <clarjon1> MrTubs95: Do some research, and some shopping. Ask your local computer shop if they know of any CPUs for the SocketAM3 that works well with Minecraft
#2296 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> There is an update from Minecraft that's planned for 1.4.7 that is supposed to improve framerate issues, at the expense of longer loading time
#2297 [23:21] <MrTubs95> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+ENVY+Desktop+-+10GB+Memory+-+1TB+Hard+Drive/6835567.p?id=1218809260533&skuId=6835567
#2298 [23:21] <MrTubs95> would that play minecraft on far without lag
#2299 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> You can also try to squeeze as much performance from your existing computer system, by following all of the advice from http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/
#2300 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> You have already been given that link, but here it is again because it seems that you have ignored it
#2301 [23:21] <clarjon1> MrTubs95: No idea
#2302 [23:22] <MrTubs95> no, i havnt ignored it
#2303 [23:22] <clarjon1> MrTubs95: It states that the CPU is one of a series -- which has multiple CPUs in it
#2304 [23:22] <clarjon1> Processor AMD FX-Series
#2305 [23:22] <MrTubs95> ive done all those things before
#2306 [23:22] <DiskDaemon> That would be a dual-core CPU
#2307 [23:23] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Then your computer seems to be performing at its best.
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#2309 [23:23] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: It's not possible to click our fingers and magically make your computer better
#2310 [23:23] <MrTubs95> clarjon
#2311 [23:23] <clarjon1> DiskDaemon: it could be a quad, 6 core, or 8 core cpu, actually
#2312 [23:24] <clarjon1> MrTubs95: The link you gave us did not give a definitive CPU. They could sell you a good one or a crappy one, and get away with it, because they're not specifying WHICH one will be in the box.
#2313 [23:24] <clarjon1> MrTubs95: They listed a -product line- for the CPU
#2314 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Does minecraft take advantage of multiple cores now?
#2315 [23:25] <MrTubs95> can you guys give me a 700 dollar computer from bestbuy that you KNOW would play minecraft on far without lag
#2316 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> It's the model number 250, which is a quad-core on a socket AM3
#2317 [23:25] <clarjon1> DiskDaemon: so same thing he has now pretty much
#2318 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> seems to be
#2319 [23:25] <MrTubs95> is disk a bot?
#2320 [23:25] <clarjon1> No
#2321 [23:26] <MrTubs95> last time i was here i was told that he was...
#2322 [23:26] <DiskDaemon> I've been accused of being a bot on many occasions
#2323 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> You are one
#2324 [23:26] <cestislife|portalinmotion> DiskDaemon, I don't think so.
#2325 [23:26] <cestislife|portalinmotion> It still only utilizes one core.
#2326 [23:26] <DiskDaemon> that's a shame
#2327 [23:26] <MrTubs95> so?
#2328 [23:26] <cestislife|portalinmotion> Optifine can bump that up to 2
#2329 [23:27] <cestislife|portalinmotion> Lol java.
#2330 [23:27] <MrTubs95> ?
#2331 [23:28] <MrTubs95> now what
#2332 [23:29] <MrTubs95> please, dont leave me
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#2335 [23:29] <MrTubs95> ?
#2336 [23:30] <clarjon1> We've already suggested all we can suggest, tubs.
#2337 [23:30] <MrTubs95> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+ENVY+Desktop+-+10GB+Memory+-+1TB+Hard+Drive/6835567.p?id=1218809260533&skuId=6835567#tab=specifications
#2338 [23:30] <clarjon1> You linked that one already
#2339 [23:30] <MrTubs95> so you dont know if he could play on far without lag
#2340 [23:30] <clarjon1> Disk did some research
#2341 [23:30] <MrTubs95> I KNOW THIS
#2342 [23:30] <clarjon1> hold on.
#2343 [23:31] <clarjon1> Let me finish, please?
#2344 [23:31] <MrTubs95> sorry
#2345 [23:31] <clarjon1> Disk did some research on that model
#2346 [23:31] <clarjon1> and he found out it most likely has the same CPU your current computer has
#2347 [23:31] <clarjon1> so you'd have the same results.
#2348 [23:31] <clarjon1> Seriously tho
#2349 [23:32] <clarjon1> Just take your tower into your local computer shop, ask them to help you find a CPU upgrade for it
#2350 [23:32] <clarjon1> It'll be a lot less expensive than getting a whole new computer
#2351 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> Some places are even willing to provide a freee quote for the upgrade advice
#2352 [23:32] <clarjon1> mhm.
#2353 [23:32] <MrTubs95> but they will charge 25 bucks an hour to do anything
#2354 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> Some places are even willing to provide a freee quote for the upgrade advice
#2355 [23:32] <clarjon1> Who?
#2356 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> Free as in free beer
#2357 [23:32] <MrTubs95> computer places
#2358 [23:32] <clarjon1> not all
#2359 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> Let your fingers do the walking
#2360 [23:33] <clarjon1> MrTubs95: Don't always go for the huge chains
#2361 [23:33] <MrTubs95> 4 i called that was the least
#2362 [23:33] <MrTubs95> mom and pop places
#2363 [23:33] <clarjon1> Do some looking around, ask your geeky friends if they know of any good mom and pop places
#2364 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> Get the yellow pages, call around.
#2365 [23:33] <MrTubs95> not geeksquad or anything big
#2366 [23:33] <clarjon1> ugh, geeksquad
#2367 [23:33] <clarjon1> One of my news places did an expose on geeksquad a few years ago
#2368 [23:33] <MrTubs95> does $25 an hour sound fine
#2369 [23:34] <clarjon1> For repair/installation? Yeah
#2370 [23:34] <DiskDaemon> What is being misunderstood by the term "free quote"?
#2371 [23:34] <MrTubs95> for finding me a CPU upgrade?
#2372 [23:34] <clarjon1> Most good places will give you a free quote to look at what you have, and recommend upgrades
#2373 [23:34] <MrTubs95> this place does free quote
#2374 [23:35] <MrTubs95> what type of CPU upgrade do i need to say? i dont know crap about computers
#2375 [23:35] <MrTubs95> lol CPU upgrade a CPU upgrade?
#2376 [23:35] <DiskDaemon> Tell them that you need it to play Minecraft well, and they can work out what you need
#2377 [23:35] <MrTubs95> on average, take a guess how much do you guys think that would cost
#2378 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> $200?
#2379 [23:36] <MrTubs95> GEEZ
#2380 [23:36] <MrTubs95> processor is less than 200?
#2381 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> Half a week's income then
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#2383 [23:37] <clarjon1> MrTubs95: Processor + installation fees, and they generally will give you a heckuva lot longer warranty/support than big box stores
#2384 [23:37] <MrTubs95> im 15, im sure you guys could tell do to my immaturity level so i have no income yet
#2385 [23:37] <clarjon1> well
#2386 [23:37] <clarjon1> You were wanting to pay $700 for a new computer
#2387 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> and you were willing to spend 700 on a new cimp...
#2388 [23:38] <clarjon1> you'll have about $500 left over
#2389 [23:38] <MrTubs95> lol
#2390 [23:38] <clarjon1> WHy not use the money that you were going to spend
#2391 [23:38] <MrTubs95> pump some sense into me guys
#2392 [23:38] <clarjon1> on upgrading your existing hardware
#2393 [23:38] <clarjon1> MrTubs95: Don't just throw out what you have cuz it's sub-par -- Upgrade it
#2394 [23:38] <clarjon1> MrTubs95: Pimp Mah Box, man!
#2395 [23:38] <MrTubs95> is all i need a new processor? i dont want to go through all this and still be here.
#2396 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> Some places provide a low-cost box upgrade, which can result in massive improvements at a lowish cost
#2397 [23:39] <clarjon1> According to the stuff you've given us, the CPU is the bottleneck.
#2398 [23:39] <MrTubs95> this is my second time in this chat and last time i was told the reason was my video card
#2399 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> Have you changed your vidoe card since then?
#2400 [23:40] <MrTubs95> no sir, and you were the one that said it was my problem :/
#2401 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> Now more information has come to light, so better advice can be given
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#2403 [23:41] <MrTubs95> is my video card capable of playing far without lag?
#2404 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: What is your current FPS from the debug screen?
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#2406 [23:41] <MrTubs95> i said about 40 earlier, but at the moment 12 ha thats not to hot
#2407 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> Okay, that could do with some improvement then. If render is taking up large amounts of time, then it's the graphics card. gameRenderer means that it's the CPU that's most likely the issue
#2408 [23:43] <MrTubs95> what do i do :'(
#2409 [23:44] <DiskDaemon> Currently you have to live with what you have, until you can afford better equipment
#2410 [23:44] <MrTubs95> do i need a new computer or do i need to fix this one, and if i need to fix this one do i need new video card of processor
#2411 [23:45] <DiskDaemon> Currently it seems to be your CPU that's causing the problem. When you take it somewhere to be upgraded, you can request of them that you want better performance from Minecraft, and they can check to ensure that you are getting that
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#2413 [23:46] <MrTubs95> why does life have to be so hard disk?
#2414 [23:46] <DiskDaemon> So that you can enjoy things when it's not
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#2416 [23:47] <MrTubs95> so go to local computer store and say "?"
#2417 [23:47] <DiskDaemon> say: "I want more FPS from Minecraft"
#2418 [23:48] <MrTubs95> xD
#2419 [23:48] <MrTubs95> thats it
#2420 [23:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Hey Disk.
#2421 [23:48] <MrTubs95> "I want for FPS for Minecraft" hand them the tower and walk out like a boss?
#2422 [23:48] <DiskDaemon> Give them your contact details - kinda important too that
#2423 [23:49] <MrTubs95> oh
#2424 [23:49] <MrTubs95> ya.....
#2425 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> And a budget. If you can't afford $1000 then tell them you only have $200 to work with, or whatever you have
#2426 [23:49] <MrTubs95> that it though? i wont look retarded saying that?
#2427 [23:50] <DiskDaemon> You look less retarded when you ask them for advice
#2428 [23:51] <MrTubs95> what are you saying?
#2429 [23:51] <DiskDaemon> I'm saying to get advice from a computer technician about how to improve your computers hardware performace for Minecraft
#2430 [23:53] <MrTubs95> how often do you play minecraft?
#2431 [23:53] <DiskDaemon> I'm playing it now
#2432 [23:53] <MrTubs95> survival?
#2433 [23:53] <MrTubs95> or server?
#2434 [23:53] <MrTubs95> server survival
#2435 [23:53] <DiskDaemon> Survival, on a Mojang private server
#2436 [23:54] <MrTubs95> fancy man
#2437 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> Thanks
#2438 [23:54] <MrTubs95> ever play minez?
#2439 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> nope
#2440 [23:55] <MrTubs95> heard of it?
#2441 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> Indeed, it's a take on DayZ
#2442 [23:55] <MrTubs95> indeed you should check it out, very fun lol
#2443 [23:56] <DiskDaemon> It is, I've seen many play throughs of it
#2444 [23:57] <MrTubs95> idk if you'll answer this, but do you get payed for being in this chat and helping people?
#2445 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> Nope - it's all volunteer work. I'm in New Zealand, and Mojang is in Sweden, for example
#2446 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> The people here who help, we love the game and want to help others to enjoy it too
#2447 [23:58] <MrTubs95> i would love to enjoy this game but the lag is keeping me from playing :( sad huh
#2448 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> Yep, you know what need to be done