#1 [00:00] <Extreme> http://help.mojang.com/
#2 [00:01] <steve_> thanks
#3 [00:01] <DiskDaemon> steve_: Here is Mojang's refund policy http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#4 [00:01] <joshsdad> OK. I thank everyone for thier time tonight but i think i'm giving up on it for now. I think it has to be related to this computer. It works on our desktop in the kitchen. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/OLbbK.jpg[/IMG]
#5 [00:05] <tyteen4a03> joshsdad, 99% of the time Norton/Graphics Driver is the problem
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#7 [00:07] <tyteen4a03> Chris, what did you do this time
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#9 [00:09] <Chris> bnc derped again
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#16 [00:14] <jessie> how do i try out mo?
#17 [00:16] <jessie> mods^
#18 [00:16] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
#19 [00:18] <jessie> thanks so much
#20 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> Be careful, it's not easy to do mods yet. It's more like hacking extra stuff in there. Minecraft has yet to be developed to support some form of official modding system
#21 [00:19] <jessie> will they work for windows 8??? i think that might be the problem there was the operating system
#22 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> Yes, it works on Windows 8
#23 [00:21] <jessie> thank you so much :0)\
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#44 [01:32] <BooMaster> Why can no one connect to my server suddenly
#45 [01:33] <BooMaster> Hello?
#46 [01:34] <Steve[cug]> BooMaster: no clue...what did you do?
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#48 [01:34] <BooMaster> Why cant any one connect to my Mine Craft server suddenly
#49 [01:34] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: Are you hosting a local server with a dynamic IP address?
#50 [01:34] <BooMaster> Yes
#51 [01:34] * frdmn|zZz is now known as frdmn|afk
#52 [01:35] <DiskDaemon> Then it's almost certainly because your IP address has changed. They're trying to connect to the old one
#53 [01:35] <Steve[cug]> DiskDaemon: are you using dyndns or some other sort of dynamic DNS service?
#54 [01:35] <BooMaster> Well they were able to connect just fine before the update to 2.6
#55 [01:36] <BooMaster> i have no idea what that means
#56 [01:36] <Steve[cug]> 2.6?
#57 [01:36] <DiskDaemon> What is 2.6? Minecraft is at 1.4.6
#58 [01:36] <BooMaster> sorry
#59 [01:36] <BooMaster> 2.4.6
#60 [01:36] <DiskDaemon> 2.4.6 doesn't exist as of yet. Please get in your time machine and travel another few years into the future.
#61 [01:37] <BooMaster> i dont appreciate the sarcasm sir
#62 [01:37] <BooMaster> it was a simple mistake
#63 [01:37] <DiskDaemon> Is your server currently active?
#64 [01:37] <Steve[cug]> BooMaster: what is the erro msg?
#65 [01:37] <Steve[cug]> *error
#66 [01:37] <BooMaster> my server is active, yes
#67 [01:37] <DiskDaemon> Is the IP address 70.190.202.148 ?
#68 [01:38] <BooMaster> thats the thing though, there is no error message
#69 [01:38] <BooMaster> yes that is my IP
#70 [01:38] <DiskDaemon> !check 70.190.202.148
#71 [01:38] <DiskDaemon> On the same machine as the server, connect the client to 127.0.0.1 and see if you can connect that wau
#72 [01:38] <BooMaster> things dont look good?
#73 [01:39] <BooMaster> on MC?
#74 [01:39] <DiskDaemon> That's the plan
#75 [01:39] <BooMaster> brb
#76 [01:40] <BooMaster> im in
#77 [01:40] <BooMaster> is that the new ip?
#78 [01:40] <DiskDaemon> No, that's just the local loopback address that points to your same computer
#79 [01:41] <BooMaster> ok im in
#80 [01:41] <DiskDaemon> What is the local IP address of the server?
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#82 [01:41] <BooMaster> 70.190.202.148
#83 [01:41] <DiskDaemon> That's the external IP address
#84 [01:41] <BooMaster> then i have no clue where to find that
#85 [01:42] <DiskDaemon> Your local one will be on the 192.168.*.* or 10.*.*.* address range
#86 [01:42] <BooMaster> ok lemme check
#87 [01:43] <BooMaster> quick question
#88 [01:43] <BooMaster> im in the console, what do i type to find that out. *noob*
#89 [01:43] <DiskDaemon> Which console?
#90 [01:43] <BooMaster> i went to run
#91 [01:43] <BooMaster> typed "cmd"
#92 [01:43] <DiskDaemon> ipconfig would be the command
#93 [01:43] <BooMaster> thanks
#94 [01:44] <Grim_Reaper> https://blog.avast.com/2013/01/02/serious-internet-explorer-vulnerability-discovered/ lol whats new?
#95 [01:44] <BooMaster> 127.0.0.1
#96 [01:44] <BooMaster> -.-
#97 [01:44] <DiskDaemon> That's the loopback address, that's not a local ip address
#98 [01:44] <BooMaster> 192.168.0.105
#99 [01:44] <BooMaster> that it?
#100 [01:45] <DiskDaemon> Okay, try to connect the client to that local ip address now
#101 [01:45] <BooMaster> localhost right
#102 [01:47] <BooMaster> hello?
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#104 [01:47] <Sakyl> but the 192.168.0.* range is reserved for local networks, so this can't be the adress four your friends.
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#106 [01:48] <DiskDaemon> Sakyl: First we check internally that things are okay. After that we get to the more complex external situations
#107 [01:48] <Sakyl> Well, alright
#108 [01:48] <BooMaster> the address for my friends is 70.190.202.148
#109 [01:48] <DiskDaemon> Sakyl: There's no point checking complex things if the basics aren't working
#110 [01:48] <Sakyl> true, ture
#111 [01:48] <DiskDaemon> It's like checking for a faulty circuit board on your printer, only to find that the plug is out from the wall
#112 [01:49] <Sakyl> but that would be to easy, right? :D
#113 [01:49] <BooMaster> ever since the new MC update it hasnt worked, before it worked perfectly
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#115 [01:51] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: I'm being told that your port 25565 is closed - you'll need to check your router and firewall/security settings to ensure that communications can get through on port 25565
#116 [01:51] <BooMaster> and i do this where??
#117 [01:52] <DiskDaemon> I'm no expert on server matters - someone else may want to step in here
#118 [01:52] <Gone_Ralex> BooMaster, assume you know how to port-forward?
#119 [01:52] <Gone_Ralex> check to make sure those details are still correct
#120 [01:52] <DiskDaemon> But basically, you can temperarily disable the firewall and security systems on your computer. If you still can't connect, then you know it's not them causing the problem. If you can connect afterwards though, you know where to look
#121 [01:53] <Gone_Ralex> and doing ^ also helps
#122 [01:53] <BooMaster> ill check the ports reall quick
#123 [01:53] <DiskDaemon> And of course, there's the whole potr forward side of things to double-check and make sure is setup properly
#124 [01:53] <Sakyl> So the port is closed? The Server is running in your local network and your freinds want to join? You have to connect to your router enable the port-forwarding for the desired port. in your case 25565
#125 [01:54] <Sakyl> But it seems pretty funny, if it worked before the last update, why should the port now be blocked?
#126 [01:54] <BooMaster> for some reason this only started when the new update came out, so idk if the firewall was setup or not
#127 [01:54] <BooMaster> thats what im saying
#128 [01:55] <Sakyl> So, you can connect to 127.0.0.1? And you could connect to yourself via the internal 192.168.* adress, right?
#129 [01:56] <BooMaster> yes
#130 [01:56] <DiskDaemon> First check if the firewall is causing the problem. Temporarily disable the computer firewall and see if you can connect after that. If you still can't, then something else is the issue
#131 [01:56] <BooMaster> i just checked, for some reason the ip changed
#132 [01:56] <Sakyl> great. go here: http://www.whatismyip.com/ and take this IP adress and try to connect.
#133 [01:56] <DiskDaemon> Hurrah - that was the first thing that I brought up.
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#136 [01:57] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: The IP has chaned for you due to the type of ISP that you have. If you don't want to change ISP's to one with a static IP address, you can instead get a domain name and point that to wherever your new IP address now is
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#139 [01:58] <Trestonsanders2> Why does my Minecraft SIngle-Player freeze at Downloading terrain?
#140 [01:58] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#141 [01:58] <Sakyl> Some routers have a functionality, where you can enter credentials for services like dyndns, so even if your ip changes, you still got a domain, that is static.
#142 [01:59] <DiskDaemon> Oh, terrain, that's not liekyl to be antivirus then
#143 [01:59] <Trestonsanders2> yeah
#144 [01:59] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, do you have mods?
#145 [01:59] <Trestonsanders2> IT freezes at that
#146 [01:59] <Trestonsanders2> no
#147 [01:59] <Gone_Ralex> had to make sure
#148 [01:59] <Trestonsanders2> I can go on a multi server
#149 [02:00] <Trestonsanders2> Wait yeah i do have a few mods
#150 [02:00] <Gone_Ralex> oh
#151 [02:00] <Trestonsanders2> All 1.4.6
#152 [02:00] <Trestonsanders2> All working
#153 [02:00] <Gone_Ralex> ??> Trestonsanders2 mods
#154 [02:00] <VoxelHead> Trestonsanders2: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#155 [02:00] <VoxelHead> Trestonsanders2: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#156 [02:00] <Trestonsanders2> The mods are fine nothing is wrong with them
#157 [02:00] <Gone_Ralex> it is probably a mod you have, which we really don't help with
#158 [02:01] <Gone_Ralex> does it do it without mods
#159 [02:01] <Trestonsanders2> They have been working fine
#160 [02:01] <Trestonsanders2> Yes
#161 [02:01] <BooMaster> ok now i cant even connect via localhost
#162 [02:01] <Trestonsanders2> I had a back up of it
#163 [02:01] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, mind backing up your jar then force updating
#164 [02:01] <Trestonsanders2> And tried to do the same thing on a clean version but it didnt help
#165 [02:01] <Gone_Ralex> then provide a crash log
#166 [02:01] <Trestonsanders2> Ok
#167 [02:02] <Trestonsanders2> It will take a few for it to unfreeze
#168 [02:02] <Trestonsanders2> ( im using modded one right now )
#169 [02:02] <Gone_Ralex> do you know how to get crash reports?
#170 [02:02] <Trestonsanders2> yes
#171 [02:02] <Trestonsanders2> Click randomly till it crashes
#172 [02:02] <Trestonsanders2> right?
#173 [02:02] <Gone_Ralex> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#174 [02:03] <Trestonsanders2> Ok wait a sec ill read that
#175 [02:03] <BooMaster> what is a private port
#176 [02:04] <BooMaster> what is a private port
#177 [02:04] <Trestonsanders2> yeah, im not gonna read that
#178 [02:04] <Trestonsanders2> lol
#179 [02:04] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: That's the port number that you want the server to receive its comms on. Normally it's 25565 for both the public and private port
#180 [02:05] <Trestonsanders2> I have the crash report here
#181 [02:05] <BooMaster> thank you
#182 [02:05] <Trestonsanders2> But do you want me to copy and paste it here ?
#183 [02:05] <Trestonsanders2> in this chat?
#184 [02:05] <Gone_Ralex> ?? pastebin
#185 [02:05] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#186 [02:06] <Trestonsanders2> http://pastebin.com/e7tBSKx9
#187 [02:06] <Trestonsanders2> There ya go
#188 [02:07] <Gone_Ralex> you are running out or ram
#189 [02:07] <Trestonsanders2> I have 4 mods
#190 [02:07] <Trestonsanders2> How
#191 [02:07] <Trestonsanders2> ?
#192 [02:07] * Gone_Ralex shrugs
#192 [02:07] <Gone_Ralex> all i know is you are
#193 [02:07] <Gone_Ralex> and mods don't usually help
#194 [02:07] <Trestonsanders2> How do i give it more ram
#195 [02:08] <BooMaster> ok, now when i try to login on my host comp, it says "failed to login: bad login"
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#197 [02:08] <Trestonsanders2> -shrugs-
#198 [02:08] <Trestonsanders2> how did u do that
#199 [02:09] <Gone_Ralex> ./me shrugs
#200 [02:09] <Trestonsanders2> thanks
#201 [02:09] <Trestonsanders2> But how do i give MC more ram
#202 [02:09] * Trestonsanders2 clap
#202 [02:09] <Gone_Ralex> do you know how to make a bat file?
#203 [02:09] <Trestonsanders2> no sir
#204 [02:09] * Trestonsanders2 wave
#204 [02:09] * Trestonsanders2 no sir i dont
#204 [02:10] <BooMaster> http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server
#205 [02:10] <Trestonsanders2> 11What is a bat file?
#206 [02:10] <BooMaster> there Trestonsanders2
#207 [02:10] <DiskDaemon> What wants to be known about creating a batch tile?
#208 [02:10] <DiskDaemon> s/tile/file
#209 [02:10] <Trestonsanders2> 11Whats that?
#210 [02:10] <BooMaster> DiskDaemon:
#211 [02:10] <Trestonsanders2> 11I don't need to set up a server
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#213 [02:11] <DiskDaemon> A batch file is where you list a series of commands, so that they can be automatically run instead of having to type them out at the command prompt
#214 [02:11] <BooMaster> it tells you how to make the bat file if u read
#215 [02:11] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1395030-allocate-more-memory-for-minecraft/
#216 [02:11] <Trestonsanders2> 11Ok thanks
#217 [02:11] <Gone_Ralex> please don't use the color
#218 [02:11] <Trestonsanders2> 11Ok
#219 [02:12] <Trestonsanders2> 0DOes this help
#220 [02:12] <DiskDaemon> Trestonsanders2: You're still virulent
#221 [02:12] <Gone_Ralex> no
#222 [02:12] <Gone_Ralex> don't use colors
#223 [02:12] <Trestonsanders2> Ok
#224 [02:12] <Gone_Ralex> simple and best for everyone
#225 [02:12] <Trestonsanders2> :/
#226 [02:12] <BooMaster> DiskDaemon: why it no work??
#227 [02:12] <Trestonsanders2> lol this is complicated a bit
#228 [02:12] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: Some context please?
#229 [02:13] <Trestonsanders2> WHat is a textfile?
#230 [02:13] <DiskDaemon> A textfile is a file that just contains text.
#231 [02:13] <BooMaster> i changed the port number on my router to match the one in the ipconfig page, now i cant connect to my own server, it says "bad login"
#232 [02:13] <Trestonsanders2> wow ok
#233 [02:13] <Trestonsanders2> brb
#234 [02:14] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: What changes did you make?
#235 [02:14] <BooMaster> just the port number
#236 [02:14] <DiskDaemon> From what to where?
#237 [02:14] <BooMaster> it ended in 112, not 105. 105 is in the ipconfig page
#238 [02:14] <BooMaster> not 112
#239 [02:15] <DiskDaemon> That's not a port number. That's the suffix of your local IP address
#240 [02:15] <Gone_Ralex> bad login means your client is no longer logged in
#241 [02:16] <BooMaster> ok fixed that
#242 [02:16] <BooMaster> but now how do i allow it to where others can log in
#243 [02:17] <BooMaster> to the server that it
#244 [02:17] <Trestonsanders2> DO i need to go into bin and make the file?
#245 [02:17] <Trestonsanders2> or just where all the other junk is?
#246 [02:17] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, into the bin? no
#247 [02:17] <Trestonsanders2> Ok thanks brb again
#248 [02:17] <Gone_Ralex> where your minecraft.exe is
#249 [02:18] <Trestonsanders2> Is Text Document the thing i use
#250 [02:19] <Trestonsanders2> Ok?
#251 [02:19] <Gone_Ralex> open notepad
#252 [02:19] <Gone_Ralex> type the stuff that goes in the file into that
#253 [02:19] <Gone_Ralex> click save as
#254 [02:19] <Gone_Ralex> name it "run.bat"
#255 [02:19] <Trestonsanders2> k
#256 [02:19] <Gone_Ralex> change file types to "all files"
#257 [02:20] <Gone_Ralex> save it to where your minecraft.exe is
#258 [02:21] <Trestonsanders2> Ok i did that
#259 [02:21] <Trestonsanders2> It says run
#260 [02:21] <BooMaster> DiskDaemon: how would i disable the firewall if that is the case
#261 [02:21] <Gone_Ralex> now run that file you just made
#262 [02:21] <Trestonsanders2> Instead of bat
#263 [02:22] <Trestonsanders2> Ok
#264 [02:22] <Gone_Ralex> it will say run probably, and have a nice icon
#265 [02:22] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: That all depends on what you are using as your firewall
#266 [02:22] <Trestonsanders2> It immanently closes
#267 [02:22] <Gone_Ralex> right click the bat file
#268 [02:22] <BooMaster> im looking at my router settings, under firewall settings it says "enable SPI" is that it?
#269 [02:22] <Gone_Ralex> select edit
#270 [02:23] <Gone_Ralex> add "pause" to the bottom of the file
#271 [02:23] <Gone_Ralex> then save it and run it again
#272 [02:23] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: It's not the router firewall that's causing the problem. Make no changes to that.
#273 [02:23] <Trestonsanders2> ok i did
#274 [02:23] <BooMaster> ok
#275 [02:23] <DiskDaemon> It's the computer that the server is on which is where your attention should be focussed
#276 [02:24] <BooMaster> how would i find this firewall
#277 [02:24] <DiskDaemon> Via your control panel
#278 [02:24] <Trestonsanders2> Its open
#279 [02:24] <Trestonsanders2> Now what
#280 [02:24] <Gone_Ralex> what does it say on the command prompt?
#281 [02:24] <BooMaster> and it would be under?
#282 [02:25] <Trestonsanders2> Command promt?
#283 [02:25] <DiskDaemon> under system and security
#284 [02:25] <Trestonsanders2> DO you mean the whole thing
#285 [02:25] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, i assume MC did not start, correct?
#286 [02:25] <Trestonsanders2> Yes
#287 [02:26] <Trestonsanders2> If i do anything the thing closes ( button hit )
#288 [02:26] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, what does the command prompt say then, everythign is best
#289 [02:27] <BooMaster> disabled it, still nothing
#290 [02:27] <Trestonsanders2> Not sure
#291 [02:27] <Trestonsanders2> It shows an error
#292 [02:27] <Gone_Ralex> what is the error?
#293 [02:27] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: Now quite nothing - you have confirmed that is is not causing the problem
#294 [02:27] <DiskDaemon> *Not
#295 [02:28] <BooMaster> any ideas what could be
#296 [02:28] <Trestonsanders2> Unable to access jarfile Minecraft.exe
#297 [02:28] <Gone_Ralex> is the file in the same folder as your exe?
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#299 [02:28] <Trestonsanders2> Its in the file With the bin
#300 [02:28] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: You were pretty sure that an ip address had changed, and was responsible for the problem. I'd chase that down further
#301 [02:29] <Trestonsanders2> Not in bin but where u can see it
#302 [02:29] <Trestonsanders2> Where you see bin, saves etc
#303 [02:29] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, the run file needs to be in the folder your Minecraft.exe is in
#304 [02:29] <BooMaster> you said that it wasnt the case
#305 [02:29] <Gone_Ralex> not your .minecraft folder, unless that is where your Minecraft.exe is
#306 [02:29] <Trestonsanders2> So go in bin
#307 [02:29] <Gone_Ralex> where is your Minecraft.ex
#308 [02:29] <Gone_Ralex> exe*
#309 [02:29] <BooMaster> because the ip on the router, and the ip on ipconfig were diferent
#310 [02:30] <Gone_Ralex> not the jar
#311 [02:30] <Gone_Ralex> the exe
#312 [02:30] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: I don't recall having said anything like that
#313 [02:30] <BooMaster> well someone did
#314 [02:30] <Trestonsanders2> I dont got a Minecraft.exe
#315 [02:30] <Gone_Ralex> how do you start mc
#316 [02:30] <Trestonsanders2> I got minecraft
#317 [02:30] <Trestonsanders2> thats it
#318 [02:30] <Gone_Ralex> does it have the dirt icon?
#319 [02:30] <Gone_Ralex> you know what, how do you start MC?
#320 [02:31] <Gone_Ralex> what do you do?
#321 [02:31] <Trestonsanders2> Yes
#322 [02:31] <Trestonsanders2> I click on the button on my toolbar
#323 [02:31] <Gone_Ralex> screenshot the folder please
#324 [02:31] <Trestonsanders2> Click the toolbar
#325 [02:31] <Trestonsanders2> What do u mean
#326 [02:32] <Trestonsanders2> I just click on the icon and it starts up
#327 [02:32] <Trestonsanders2> Its on my desktop
#328 [02:32] <Gone_Ralex> take a screenshot of the folder where minecraft and the run is, press alt+prntscr, then go to http://imgur.com and press ctrl+v
#329 [02:32] <Gone_Ralex> then link us the page
#330 [02:33] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: What does your router report that its WAN IP address is?
#331 [02:34] <Trestonsanders2> The alt thing doesn't work
#332 [02:34] <Gone_Ralex> it won't show anything
#333 [02:34] <Gone_Ralex> it takes a screenshot and puts it into the clipboard
#334 [02:35] <Gone_Ralex> so when you press ctrl+v, it pastes it
#335 [02:35] <BooMaster> 70.190.202.148
#336 [02:35] <Trestonsanders2> No just the keys at the top left
#337 [02:35] <Gone_Ralex> what?
#338 [02:35] <DiskDaemon> That's good to confirm then - if the router has a local ip address as its WAN address then it's been double-natted, which is big trouble (and no real solution)
#339 [02:36] <Trestonsanders2> the screen flashes for 1 sec then nothing else happens
#340 [02:36] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, now go to http://imgur.com
#341 [02:36] <Gone_Ralex> and press ctrl+v
#342 [02:36] <Trestonsanders2> I did and nothing happened
#343 [02:36] <cestislife> I think you have to be logged in, don't you?
#344 [02:36] <Gone_Ralex> cestislife, nope
#345 [02:37] <Gone_Ralex> you can ctrl+v on imgur w/o an account
#346 [02:37] <cestislife> Hmm, good to know.
#347 [02:37] <Trestonsanders2> got it
#348 [02:37] <Trestonsanders2> There
#349 [02:37] <Gone_Ralex> you just really need to know you can do that, it does not tell you though, but it lets you
#350 [02:37] <Trestonsanders2> http://imgur.com/6fYIi
#351 [02:37] <cestislife> Ah okay
#352 [02:37] <Trestonsanders2> I go in bin to get to Mc
#353 [02:37] <Trestonsanders2> The run is near bottom 3 from it
#354 [02:38] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, screenshot the bin folder please
#355 [02:38] <BooMaster> DiskDaemon:
#356 [02:38] <Trestonsanders2> I have a Icon for mc in my toolbar and desktop
#357 [02:38] <BooMaster> DiskDaemon: you have skype? maybe we can screen share
#358 [02:38] <Trestonsanders2> Ok here is that link ( bin)
#359 [02:38] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, when this is done, you won't be able to use those
#360 [02:38] <DiskDaemon> Sorry no - I don't skype
#361 [02:38] <Gone_Ralex> you will have to launch MC with the run file
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#363 [02:39] <BooMaster> teamspeak?
#364 [02:39] <DiskDaemon> nope
#365 [02:39] <Trestonsanders2> Here is inside bin
#366 [02:39] <Trestonsanders2> http://imgur.com/dMCmu
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#368 [02:40] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, now where is the Minecraft.exe?
#369 [02:40] <Robert> I am getting an error message that my server is "out of date" after I recently updated. How can I update my server so I may continue playing?
#370 [02:40] <Gone_Ralex> Robert, download the new server jar, then replace your server with that
#371 [02:41] <Trestonsanders2> http://imgur.com/Ddxfh
#372 [02:41] <cestislife> Why are his files winrar archives.
#373 [02:41] <Trestonsanders2> Thats how i get onto minecraft
#374 [02:41] <Gone_Ralex> cestislife, cause he has winrar
#375 [02:41] <Robert> Great! Sorry to ask, but where can I find the new server jar?
#376 [02:41] <Trestonsanders2> I click the icon and it starts
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#378 [02:41] <Gone_Ralex> Robert, http://minecraft.net/download
#379 [02:42] <BooMaster> DiskDaemon: any ideas on what i could do
#380 [02:42] <Trestonsanders2> not sure if you got the link but here is how i get onto minecraft http://imgur.com/Ddxfh
#381 [02:42] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, right click the Minecraft icon
#382 [02:42] <DiskDaemon> I would check that your port forwarding is correctly set up
#383 [02:42] <Trestonsanders2> Thats the icon i click
#384 [02:42] <Trestonsanders2> ok
#385 [02:42] <BooMaster> ok
#386 [02:42] <Gone_Ralex> then right click the top line there
#387 [02:42] <Gone_Ralex> then click properties
#388 [02:42] <Trestonsanders2> It says Minecraft andunpin
#389 [02:43] <Gone_Ralex> right click the line that says "Minecraft"
#390 [02:43] <Gone_Ralex> then right click properties
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#392 [02:44] <Trestonsanders2> There is no properties thing
#393 [02:44] <Gone_Ralex> what does it show then?
#394 [02:45] <Trestonsanders2> It opened a window
#395 [02:45] <Trestonsanders2> Minecraft Properties
#396 [02:46] <Gone_Ralex> now click "Open File Location"
#397 [02:46] <Trestonsanders2> here is link
#398 [02:46] <Trestonsanders2> http://imgur.com/c8Dlb
#399 [02:47] <Gone_Ralex> on your desktop
#400 [02:47] <Gone_Ralex> that Minecraft icon
#401 [02:47] <Gone_Ralex> is that the actual exe?
#402 [02:47] <Gone_Ralex> or just a shortcut?
#403 [02:47] <Trestonsanders2> I guess so
#404 [02:47] <Gone_Ralex> looks like the exe, move the run file to your desktop
#405 [02:47] <Trestonsanders2> Shortcut i think
#406 [02:48] <Trestonsanders2> ok
#407 [02:48] <Gone_Ralex> now run the run file
#408 [02:48] <Gone_Ralex> see if it errors
#409 [02:48] <Trestonsanders2> Run is now on there
#410 [02:49] <Trestonsanders2> 3 errors
#411 [02:49] <Gone_Ralex> screenshot the command prompt please
#412 [02:49] <Trestonsanders2> nvm they cancled
#413 [02:49] <Trestonsanders2> It opens MC now
#414 [02:49] <Gone_Ralex> good
#415 [02:50] <Gone_Ralex> to run MC with more ram, you need to run that run file
#416 [02:50] <Trestonsanders2> Thanks ill see if it stops the downloading terrain thing
#417 [02:51] <Trestonsanders2> nope
#418 [02:51] <BooMaster> DiskDaemon: ports are all lined up, still nothing
#419 [02:51] <Gone_Ralex> Trestonsanders2, can you get the new crash log
#420 [02:51] <Trestonsanders2> It still says Downloading Terrain
#421 [02:52] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: Is comunication capable of getting through your router to your server? Have you tested that?
#422 [02:52] <BooMaster> how would i test that?
#423 [02:53] <Trestonsanders2> sure wait a sec
#424 [02:53] <DiskDaemon> Port Forward has a free program for checking that. I believe that the 1.0.39 version is most stable, found via http://boards.portforward.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2485
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#427 [02:57] <Trestonsanders2> BAck sorry
#428 [02:57] <Trestonsanders2> my whole computer crashed
#429 [02:57] <Trestonsanders2> my whole computer crashed
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#431 [03:02] <BooMaster> DiskDaemon: it says the port is open
#432 [03:03] <DiskDaemon> Good, so communications can get the the computer, and the game server seems to be working.
#433 [03:03] <DiskDaemon> Now the only thig in the way is in terms of security software on the computer that may be blocking incoming traffic
#434 [03:04] <BooMaster> i have no firewalls active
#435 [03:04] <DiskDaemon> Then I don't know what else would be causing your problem
#436 [03:05] <BooMaster> im thinking the exact same thing
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#438 [03:10] <BooMaster> DiskDaemon: you have any idea who i could contact to help resolve this?
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#440 [03:11] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: I'd give a good read through http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
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#443 [03:13] <BooMaster> ill just re-do everything
#444 [03:15] * tyteen4a03 pops
#444 [03:15] <tyteen4a03> TeamViewer *hint hint*
#445 [03:17] <DiskDaemon> tyteen4a03: You're welcome to teamviewer with him
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#447 [03:17] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#448 [03:17] <tyteen4a03> ?? porttest/tbf
#449 [03:17] <VoxelHead> porttest/tbf: Port tests softwares can be used to determine whether security softwares are blocking the use of certain ports.
#450 [03:17] <VoxelHead> porttest/tbf: http://is.gd/mc_portlisten http://is.gd/mc_porttest
#451 [03:18] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon, so from my understanding BooMaster can't host a server because something is blocking the connection?
#452 [03:18] <DiskDaemon> tyteen4a03: And according to him it occurred after updating Minecraft
#453 [03:19] <BooMaster> exactly
#454 [03:19] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon, updating Minecraft server?
#455 [03:19] <BooMaster> yes
#456 [03:19] <BooMaster> bukkit
#457 [03:19] <DiskDaemon> Oh! Bukkit!!
#458 [03:19] <DiskDaemon> Now I understand everything.,
#459 [03:19] <BooMaster> ?
#460 [03:19] <tyteen4a03> inb4?? mods
#461 [03:19] <tyteen4a03> just kidding, go on
#462 [03:19] <BooMaster> no mods
#463 [03:19] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: You must be using vanilla Minecraft for our assistance to be of any use to you.
#464 [03:20] <tyteen4a03> BooMaster, bukkit is a server wrapper and constitutes a mod
#465 [03:20] <BooMaster> well then... awkward
#466 [03:20] <tyteen4a03> BooMaster, what happens when you host a vanilla server with the exact setting?
#467 [03:20] <BooMaster> idk what a "vanilla server" even is!
#468 [03:20] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: You'll be best served by either troubleshooting a vanilla server, or by gaining bukkit assistance for your network from bukkit sources
#469 [03:21] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: Vanilla is just as it comes out of the box, from Mojang. No mods, no patches, no changes. Nada
#470 [03:21] <tyteen4a03> ??<
#471 [03:21] <tyteen4a03> ??< minecraftpe
#472 [03:21] <BooMaster> ok, so i should just keep doing that tutorial you gave me a link to
#473 [03:22] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: You should not be using Bukkit or any other modifications to Minecraft. Get things working first without screwing things around, and only after things are working should you start to muck about
#474 [03:23] <BooMaster> i didnt even know bukkit was a mod
#475 [03:23] <tyteen4a03> BooMaster, now you know :)
#476 [03:23] <BooMaster> im new, sorry
#477 [03:23] <BooMaster> thank you
#478 [03:23] <BooMaster> lol
#479 [03:24] <DiskDaemon> From their About Us page - "Bukkit is an up-and-coming Minecraft Server mod" :)
#480 [03:25] <DiskDaemon> We have nothing against mods here - it's just impossible to fix all of their problems due to the wide range of mods and issues that they can cause
#481 [03:26] <BooMaster> i mean who reads everything, c'mon lol
#482 [03:29] <DiskDaemon> Everything? The main bukkit page has a feature section that says "Bukkit is a free, open-source, software project that provides the means to extend the popular Minecraft multiplayer server." and "Learning from the mistakes made by other mods, Bukkit aims to be different and . . ."
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#484 [03:29] <BooMaster> ok i get it lol
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#486 [03:30] <Tarax3n> ok, my friend is having issues with his minecraft. The chat is not working in multiplayer, he has downloaded a vanilla version and that still won't fix it, any suggestions?
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#490 [03:31] <Tarax3n> ok, my friend is having issues with his minecraft. The chat is not working in multiplayer, he has downloaded a vanilla version and that still won't fix it, any suggestions?
#491 [03:32] <Bugboy1028> first, get your friend here
#492 [03:33] <Tarax3n> he is unvailable atm
#493 [03:33] <Tarax3n> what did you need from him
#494 [03:34] <DiskDaemon> Information that is not second hand, and further details from him, and the machine he's having trouble with
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#497 [03:35] <Tarax3n> bug what did you need from him
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#499 [03:36] <tyteen4a03> Tarax3n, <@DiskDaemon> Information that is not second hand, and further details from him, and the machine he's having trouble with
#500 [03:36] <DiskDaemon> Tarax3n: To provide some troubleshooting instructions too.
#501 [03:38] * DiskDaemon goes to a car mechanic. My friends car make strange noises when it's driving. Can you help?
#501 [03:38] <DiskDaemon> It doesn't really work all that well that way
#502 [03:43] <BooMaster> DiskDaemon: so i did everything that needed to be done on the link you sent me, still nothing
#503 [03:44] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: Then it seems that all of the information from even the most well researched minecraft server troubleshooting guide isn't capable of helping you to solve your problem
#504 [03:44] <BooMaster> ... thats a big problem then
#505 [03:44] <Tarax3n> anyone ever have the issue of their multiplayer chat not working?
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#507 [03:45] <DiskDaemon> Tarax3n: Are you having the problem, or your friend. Is the computer you are on the one having the issue, or is it somewhere else?
#508 [03:45] <DiskDaemon> Tarax3n: In other words, how would you like us to help you to troubleshoot the problem?
#509 [03:47] <tyteen4a03> redundundancy at its bestest
#510 [03:47] <Tarax3n> I just wanted to know if anyone else has ever had the issue and solved it
#511 [03:47] <BooMaster> bestest?? lol
#512 [03:47] <Tarax3n> and its on my firends comp
#513 [03:47] <Tarax3n> i don't have acess to it
#514 [03:48] <tyteen4a03> Tarax3n, you'll need to get your friend here some other time then
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#518 [03:48] <DiskDaemon> Tarax3n: There's a vast range of chat issues, just see ... dammit
#519 [03:48] <tyteen4a03> lol
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#522 [03:49] <DiskDaemon> I was going to link to https://mojang.atlassian.net/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MC%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened)%20AND%20text%20~%20%22chat%22
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#524 [03:51] <BooMaster> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe" -Xms1024m -Xmx1024m -jar "Minecraft_Server.exe"
#525 [03:51] <BooMaster> ...
#526 [03:52] <DiskDaemon> Yes? That's a standard way to force Java to using 1 gig for the server
#527 [03:52] <BooMaster> is that an error message?
#528 [03:52] <DiskDaemon> No, it's a command.
#529 [03:52] <BooMaster> awkward...
#530 [03:53] <BooMaster> well it still doesnt work and its getting on my nerves...
#531 [03:54] <DiskDaemon> You could always return back to a previous backup when things worked correctly
#532 [03:54] <BooMaster> and this is done how??
#533 [03:55] <DiskDaemon> It's done by issueing a restore command ona backup taht you ahve done previously.
#534 [03:55] <DiskDaemon> I take it that you have no backups of your computer system from earlier on?
#535 [03:55] <BooMaster> ...yeah
#536 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> Oh yes, what am I talking about. Most of us don't even have Wills either
#537 [03:56] <BooMaster> ok... me=noob
#538 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> The next stage would be to create a new computer user account, and test from there.
#539 [03:56] <BooMaster> and wills are a little more important
#540 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> Failing that, it's nuke everything time and install the Operating System from scratch.
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#542 [03:58] <DiskDaemon> BooMaster: How did you setup the minecraft server initially, when you seem to be very lost with the process this timer around too?
#543 [03:59] <BooMaster> the server was first set up using bukkit
#544 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> right, and now the same bukkit setup fails to work
#545 [03:59] <BooMaster> yes
#546 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> I know how a solution to this problem may be achieves
#547 [03:59] <BooMaster> ok
#548 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> Contact the bukkit support people
#549 [04:00] <BooMaster> ok
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#553 [04:09] <BooMaster> so hows everyone doing?
#554 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> Excellent thanks
#555 [04:10] <Wolfy129> hi
#556 [04:11] <Wolfy129> i cant log on to minecraft. can anyone help? it keeps saying 'login failed' and it will not let me play offline. any ideas?
#557 [04:12] <DiskDaemon> Wolfy129: Can you log in to mojang.com or minecraft.net ?
#558 [04:12] <Wolfy129> yes
#559 [04:12] <DiskDaemon> Which?
#560 [04:12] <Wolfy129> the online one
#561 [04:12] <DiskDaemon> Both are
#562 [04:12] <Wolfy129> or on the actual website
#563 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> Both are actual websites
#564 [04:13] <Wolfy129> minecraft launcher
#565 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> Wolfy129: I'm not asking about the launcher
#566 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> I know that you are having a problem with the launcher, which is why I'm asking about some more primary concerns relating to your account first
#567 [04:14] <Wolfy129> well i can geet on everything but that
#568 [04:14] <Moose\Asleep> Disk, why'd you leave #java :c
#569 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> Wolfy129: Which launcher do you use?
#570 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> Moose\Asleep;: t'was a foolish mistake
#571 [04:15] <Moose\Asleep> okee
#572 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> You may now go back to sleep. /me pats Moose\Asleep
#573 [04:15] <Wolfy129> im using the one that is downloadeed to my computer, with the minecraft news on it
#574 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> Wolfy129: Right. It normally shows a detailed message about why it cannot login.
#575 [04:16] <Moose\Asleep> hey DiskDaemon, you're involved in the minecraft community; is there yet a Minecraft Launcher which offers mod loading/unloading?
#576 [04:17] <DiskDaemon> Sure, Minecraft Launcher is one, but MultiMC is the preferred one now
#577 [04:17] <Moose\Asleep> :O
#578 [04:17] <Wolfy129> where can i get it?
#579 [04:17] <DiskDaemon> Wolfy129: Please don't complicate things with unsupported software while your issue is being resolved
#580 [04:17] <Moose\Asleep> they stole my idea.
#581 [04:18] <Wolfy129> ok
#582 [04:18] <Moose\Asleep> They will perish.
#583 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> Millions of people have the same ideas. Bring it to execution is the real trick
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#585 [04:19] <Moose\Asleep> Well not exactly my idea.
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#587 [04:20] <Moose\Asleep> my idea was to have something like a mod repository where players could load/unload mods, make and share mod packs, etc.
#588 [04:20] <Moose\Asleep> Mod developers could submit their own mods, y'know; that kind of this.
#589 [04:20] <Moose\Asleep> thing*
#590 [04:20] <Moose\Asleep> Screw IRC, I'm tired right now.
#591 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> Well Mojang are working on an official modding system. It should see the light of day before 2015 arrives
#592 [04:21] * Moose\Asleep coughs
#592 [04:21] <Moose\Asleep> much like the modding API :p
#593 [04:21] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that one which is eternally spoken of, but not yet implemented
#594 [04:22] <Moose\Asleep> I've never really gotten involved into the modding community
#595 [04:23] <Moose\Asleep> I made a mod like in 1.7, but that was it.
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#597 [04:25] <Moose\Asleep> DiskDaemon, you actually helped me out with it :O
#598 [04:25] <DiskDaemon> thanks
#599 [04:25] <Moose\Asleep> 'thanks'? :o
#600 [04:25] <Moose\Asleep> I think I added you to the credits.
#601 [04:25] <DiskDaemon> Yes, thanks for the recognition :)
#602 [04:26] <Moose\Asleep> It was some kind of light mod.
#603 [04:26] <Moose\Asleep> I didn't know crap about OpenGL/LWJGL.
#604 [04:26] <Moose\Asleep> oh yep, here it is.
#605 [04:26] <Moose\Asleep> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/777786-181-coloured-torches-v125-coloured-torches-with-stronger-lighting/
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#607 [04:26] <Moose\Asleep> >2011
#608 [04:27] <Moose\Asleep> god, it feels like that was 5 years ago.
#609 [04:27] <DiskDaemon> Speaking of which, I must give this shader a good go http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/940974-125sonic-ethers-unbelievable-shaders-glsl-shaders-dynamic-shadows-more/
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#612 [04:39] <BooMaster> DiskDaemon: well thanks for the help you gave/tried to give me. im headed to bed
#613 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> How did things go with the bukkit support?
#614 [04:40] <BooMaster> they havent responded, its one of those e-mail support thingies
#615 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> worldmc: Your private message to me just ended up in the porn channel. Congratulations. Please don't private message me without checking first
#616 [04:40] <BooMaster> ???
#617 [04:40] <worldmc> ..........
#618 [04:41] <BooMaster> awkward
#619 [04:42] <BooMaster> anyways, thanks again DiskDaemon. I might check up on this page every once in a while
#620 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> It definately is. His private message is forever now be in my logs of that porn channel. The poor chap.
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#622 [04:46] <worldmc> well i just want to start a help channel for modded support . while i tried to figur out who to talk to yesterday i didnt have enough time and had to go back to work. you responded yesterday disk so thats why i pmt you. yes im sorry that i didnt ask your first but the only thing i would like to know if you could just place in topic: for modded support go to #minecraftmodded
#623 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> The channel is empty, so there's no real point is is mentioning it until it becomes a worthwhile resource
#624 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> s/is is/in us/
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#626 [04:48] <worldmc> okay thanks for you awnser
#627 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> But, when it becomes a trusted place for obtaining help with modded versions of Minecraft, we'll be all to happy to let people know about it
#628 [04:49] <worldmc> okay
#629 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> I suggest that you sit in the #direwolf20 and #risucraft channels, as well as here, and invite over anyone with modding problems so that you can sort them out in that channel
#630 [04:50] <worldmc> true
#631 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> #direwolf20 is where general modding discussion takes place, but not really troubleshooting, and #risucraft is where modding development occurs, but they snicker at people with modding problems
#632 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> You're lucky if you only get snickered at either
#633 [04:52] <worldmc> okay
#634 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> So that's how I'd handle things. Keep an eye on channels where peope with modding issues tend to arrive, and direct them to where they can be better served
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#642 [05:22] <Crimethinker> My Minecraft just crashed for no particular reason. http://pastebin.com/2Anefs2P
#643 [05:24] <Crimethinker> Hello?
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#646 [05:25] <worldmc> hello
#647 [05:25] <Crimethinker> My Minecraft just crashed for no particular reason. http://pastebin.com/2Anefs2P
#648 [05:25] <worldmc> i saw
#649 [05:25] <Crimethinker> Oh.
#650 [05:26] <Crimethinker> Then, what's wrong?
#651 [05:26] <worldmc> not sure but did this happen earlier?
#652 [05:26] <Crimethinker> Yup.
#653 [05:26] <worldmc> what java do you have?
#654 [05:26] <Crimethinker> OpenJDK 7.
#655 [05:26] <worldmc> prob a fault between java 7 and minecraft
#656 [05:27] <Crimethinker> Now that I think about it, I should probably try Java 6...
#657 [05:27] <worldmc> yes
#658 [05:27] <Crimethinker> Hold on.
#659 [05:28] <Crimethinker> Seems to be wroking fine.
#660 [05:28] <Crimethinker> working
#661 [05:28] <Crimethinker> I'll be going now.
#662 [05:28] <worldmc> okay have fun :)
#663 [05:28] <Crimethinker> :)
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#666 [05:29] <Crimethinker> SHIT.
#667 [05:29] <worldmc> ?
#668 [05:29] <Crimethinker> An entire chunk is gone.
#669 [05:29] <Crimethinker> That took quite a while to make.
#670 [05:29] <Crimethinker> Oh well.
#671 [05:29] <Crimethinker> Shit happens.
#672 [05:29] <worldmc> well a corrupt chunk it was
#673 [05:30] <Crimethinker> I'll be building then.
#674 [05:30] <Crimethinker> I have lots of it to do :(
#675 [05:31] <Crimethinker> Wait.
#676 [05:31] <DiskDaemon> Crimethinker: Do you have a backup? There's a good chance that MCEdit can fix that damaged chunk
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#678 [05:31] <Crimethinker> I use Ubuntu, so MCEdit is a pain to install, but I can, however, attempt to switch around some files in the world folder.
#679 [05:32] <Crimethinker> I switched around the level.dat and level.dat_old files. This should work.
#680 [05:33] <Crimethinker> Still didn't work.
#681 [05:34] <Crimethinker> F**k.
#682 [05:34] <Crimethinker> I'll get to building, then.
#683 [05:34] <DiskDaemon> Do you still have anywhere the version of the world that experienced the problem?
#684 [05:35] <Crimethinker> Yup.
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#686 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> It might be worth the time to give MCEdit a shot
#687 [05:36] <Crimethinker> I'll try, then
#688 [05:36] <Crimethinker> Installing all the Python dependencies takes a good amount of time, but I'll try anyway.
#689 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> At the very least, the bad chunk can be regenerated. At the best it can be entirely saved
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#698 [06:02] <Calinou> <worldmc> prob a fault between java 7 and minecraft
#699 [06:02] <Calinou> #worksforme
#700 [06:02] <Calinou> oh, he left
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#701 [06:03] <Calinou> people still use 32 bit in 2013, anyway?
#702 [06:03] <worldmc> ?
#703 [06:03] <Calinou> worldmc: openjdk 7 works just fine for me on xubuntu 12.10
#704 [06:04] <worldmc> java 7 doesnt work perfect with mc. therefor i suggested to try java 6
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#707 [06:07] <Calinou> depends on computers probably, or 32/64 bit
#708 [06:07] <Calinou> we're in 2013, people shouldn't stick to 32 bit, just saying :P
#709 [06:07] * GreyVulpine still uses 32 bit.
#709 [06:07] <Andrio> My Java 6 crashes all the time.
#710 [06:07] <Calinou> windows? heh
#711 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Windows XP.
#712 [06:08] <Calinou> to switch to 64 bit, you have to pay :P
#713 [06:08] * GreyVulpine nods to himself
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#715 [06:08] <Ruran2> This morning I played for 3 hours and now I get a craschreport when trying to login again. I had the same problem yesterday but it resolved itself somehow.I am playing from a mac with OS X 10.8.2 (12C60). Please help (my son)
#716 [06:09] <Calinou> Ruran2: paste the crash report to: http://paste.ubuntu.com then send us the link, thanks :)
#717 [06:09] <Ruran2> Where can I turn with my crash report?
#718 [06:10] <Calinou> I said it :P
#719 [06:10] <Calinou> normally you should be able to copy it (might be ctrl+c and not command+c)
#720 [06:10] <Ruran2> Ok thanks! Youre fast
#721 [06:10] <Calinou> don't blame me if i can't help you, i don't even have a mac :)
#722 [06:10] <Calinou> we can try
#723 [06:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Same
#724 [06:12] <Calinou> same?
#725 [06:12] <CrusaderDeleters> [06:10] Calinou don't blame me if i can't help you, i don't even have a mac
#726 [06:12] <CrusaderDeleters> [06:10] Calinou we can try
#727 [06:12] <CrusaderDeleters> No mac, but I try anyways.
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#729 [06:14] <Calinou> ah, ok
#730 [06:14] <FLHerne> Also same here, but at least they behave quite like Linux most of the time :P
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#732 [06:15] <Calinou> OS X is a BSD, so yes
#733 [06:16] <Calinou> i wonder if they'll switch to linux one day :P
#734 [06:16] <EthanSteven911> Hi, newby who is stuck, my mouse only opens up command prompt, how do I get it back to punching?
#735 [06:16] <Ruran2> <calinou>crashreport is pasted.
#736 [06:17] <Calinou> link please?
#737 [06:17] <Andrio> EthanSteven911, sounds like your control settings are messed up.
#738 [06:17] <Calinou> EthanSteven911: did you bind "command" to left click? :P
#739 [06:17] <Ruran2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491553/
#740 [06:17] <EthanSteven911> ok, I'll check there, I know I did "play" in there - silly me!
#741 [06:19] <EthanSteven911> agh, sweet relief - many thanks!!!
#742 [06:19] <EthanSteven911> That was driving me nuts!
#743 [06:19] <Calinou> Ruran2: what's your graphics card? you can see it in "about this mac", i think
#744 [06:19] <Ruran2> Ill check
#745 [06:20] <Ruran2> NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB
#746 [06:20] <CrusaderDeleters> notbad.png
#747 [06:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Ruran: Got a driver for that card?
#748 [06:20] <Calinou> you don't install drivers on OS X, they are automagically installed by default...
#749 [06:20] <Ruran2> This is all greek to me. What is a driver?
#750 [06:21] <Calinou> Ruran2: try rebooting and restarting the game? make sure the .app is in the applications folder, too
#751 [06:21] <EthanSteven911> All the screen info is now gone too? no pointer on the mouse either?
#752 [06:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Calinou: Macs are weird.
#753 [06:21] <Calinou> EthanSteven911: did you bind the "command" key to a key like "/"?
#754 [06:21] <Calinou> CrusaderDeleters: of course, their prices are, too :D
#755 [06:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, Imma go finish getting ready for school. Thank god for being ready in just a few minutes.
#756 [06:22] <EthanSteven911> I made the command line "x"
#757 [06:22] <Ruran2> what is the .app in the application folder? (would you know the word i swedish?)
#758 [06:22] <Andrio> EthanSteven911, pressing F1 (I think) turns the HUD on and off.
#759 [06:22] <Calinou> nevermind about the .zip
#760 [06:23] <Calinou> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#761 [06:23] <Calinou> try starting the game with the .jar launcher
#762 [06:23] <CrusaderDeleters> OI
#763 [06:23] <Calinou> (open it with java, right click > open with)
#764 [06:23] <Calinou> if you get an error about something being damaged, disable "gatekeeper" in the security preferences.
#765 [06:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Calinou! Shame! Never bring the download link for minecraft.jar.
#766 [06:24] <EthanSteven911> Thanks very much, sorted - i had pressed every button to try to get the mouse working without the command line. defn some learning to do on this game but my son loves it - 7yrs old.
#767 [06:24] <Calinou> CrusaderDeleters: this is perfectly legal, it's on the "linux/other" download
#768 [06:24] <Calinou> so you could just click it too
#769 [06:24] <Calinou> EthanSteven911: no problem :)
#770 [06:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, then, mojang screwed up "Anti-Piracy"
#771 [06:25] <Calinou> you can't pirate the game with just a launcher
#772 [06:25] <Calinou> even with minecraft.jar (which you can obtain legally without buying), LWJGL (same thing) and using command line options
#773 [06:26] <Calinou> have to go now -- bye
#774 [06:26] <CrusaderDeleters> When I saw "minecraft.jar"- Cya. :c
#775 [06:26] <CrusaderDeleters> I gtg too.
#776 [06:26] <Ruran2> hi Calinou - Should i try the launcher
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#778 [06:26] <Calinou> Ruran2: yes, the .jar launcher i gave you, open it with java
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#784 [06:54] <Morton> hey i have a problem i cant buy minecraft need help
#785 [06:54] <DiskDaemon> That's quite the problem
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#789 [06:55] <Morton> yes
#790 [06:57] <Morton> the problem is when i push the procee to payment button it dosnt load the next site
#791 [06:58] <DiskDaemon> I would contact Moneybookers then, who provide all of those white-background screens
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#794 [07:00] <DiskDaemon> Mojang also provide ... dammit. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#795 [07:04] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon, two minutes
#796 [07:04] <tyteen4a03> nuh uh
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#807 [07:32] <jinx1966> I have just set up my son with a mojang account as he is keen to play mine craft. username MojangAW@Family-Wilcox.co.uk. This username has been verified. he can loginto the minecraft site sucessfullyand play the browser based demo, however when we download the client and add the same user details to the login in the bottom right we are told there is no such account. please advise as to how I set up the account correctly. I am reluctan
#808 [07:33] <worldmc> ehm
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#811 [07:34] <Andrio> Your message got cut off at 'reluctant'.
#812 [07:35] <jinx1966> Last bit was reluctant to pay for account when I can't get demo to work
#813 [07:35] <worldmc> did it ask you for a player name>
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#815 [07:36] <jinx1966> When clicking on download launcher it opens adialouge including Minceraft news and lots of resource links
#816 [07:36] <jinx1966> In the Bottom right there is a login requesting Username and password
#817 [07:37] <jinx1966> I typed in the email address as we have yet to set up an username
#818 [07:37] <jinx1966> Plus the help files say to use email not username
#819 [07:38] <worldmc> you should have gotten a email with the needed info to login?
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#824 [07:40] <jinx1966> I have only received the verification email, which I responded to.
#825 [07:41] <jinx1966> I have just responded to it again and whilst it gave an error message it did have all the correct account details on it
#826 [07:41] <jinx1966> Plus, as I can loginto the micraft web site with the email account I assume the account has been set up
#827 [07:42] <worldmc> lemme test something
#828 [07:42] <worldmc> !help
#829 [07:42] <worldmc> !paid MojangAW@Family-Wilcox.co.uk
#830 [07:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> not sure that works with emails
#831 [07:43] <worldmc> nor do i know
#832 [07:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> worldmc: also he just said he didnt pay
#833 [07:43] <worldmc> yes
#834 [07:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> he just set up an account
#835 [07:43] <SinZ> the command uses the minecraft name
#836 [07:43] <SinZ> !paid S1NZ
#837 [07:43] <SinZ> Im on a migrated account
#838 [07:44] <worldmc> well i register the old way. what did you have to give in at register sinz?
#839 [07:44] <worldmc> im guessing that you had to give in a mc name of sorts?
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#841 [07:45] <worldmc> i dont know then. maybe someine else?
#842 [07:45] <jinx1966> Yes MojangAW has NOT paid. I am trying to run the download client as a demo before buying
#843 [07:45] <jinx1966> The help files imply that you can do this
#844 [07:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> jinx1966: if you press "play offline" in the client that will be sufficient demo
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#846 [07:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> you cant login to the client with an unpaid account for obvious reasons
#847 [07:47] <jinx1966> Now found the playoffline button. That is waht I was after. Thank you.
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#850 [07:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> jinx1966: np
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#853 [07:49] <worldmc> like i wasnt getting the fact that he didnt pay yet
#854 [07:49] <worldmc> derp
#855 [07:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
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#858 [07:52] <SinZ> hey, it was WoodPuncher again, under a different alias
#859 [07:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> ahahaha
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#861 [07:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> idiot
#862 [07:57] <Andrio> Some guy punched an op in Terraria's channel today.
#863 [07:57] <Andrio> The op parried it with the ban hammer.
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#865 [07:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> sounds stupid
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#874 [08:30] <Andy_> When will everything that's available to use on Xbox 360 be available on the iPad/iPhone
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#879 [08:33] <Andy_> Will everything on the Xbox 360 minecraft be available for iPad/iPhone
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#889 [09:02] <babbala> hi all, i have the problem internal exception java.net.socketexception connection reset.. what should i do?
#890 [09:04] <Andrio> Is your copy of Minecraft up to date?
#891 [09:04] <babbala> yup 1.4.6
#892 [09:04] <babbala> and allowed tcp/udp 25565 ports
#893 [09:04] <babbala> on my router and win 7
#894 [09:04] <babbala> firewall
#895 [09:08] <babbala> what should i do?
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#898 [09:09] <worldmc> how often does it happen babbala?
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#900 [09:09] <babbala> in evey server, every time...i mean, i stay in for 45 sec and then... i'm out
#901 [09:10] <babbala> with that error
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#904 [09:16] <babbala> ??
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#925 [09:50] <Kiamasters> Hello
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#940 [10:47] <minerdude146> ok,so, if you buy minecraft on your computer , can you log in to your account and play it on another computer or can you only paly it on the computer you bought it on?
#941 [10:48] <Morrolan> The former. Accounts aren't bound to one specific computer. :)
#942 [10:48] <enament> hello
#943 [10:48] <minerdude146> so you can play it on multiple computers
#944 [10:49] <enament> is there something wrong with the pigs in minecraft
#945 [10:49] <enament> ?
#946 [10:50] <Grim_Reaper> Nope
#947 [10:50] <Grim_Reaper> And minerdude146 you can play on any computer
#948 [10:50] <Grim_Reaper> Long as you know your account info
#949 [10:50] <Morrolan> minerdude146 - Yep. You can not play it online from more than one computer at the same time, but that's the same limitation.
#950 [10:50] <Morrolan> that's the only*
#951 [10:50] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan
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#951 [10:50] <enament> hun i have wondered around for 6 hours and havent found one
#952 [10:51] <minerdude146> k cool, cheers
#953 [10:51] <enament> all kinds of sheep,chickens and cows but no pigs
#954 [10:51] <Lutzee> enament: then you've had bad luck
#955 [10:52] <enament> i have gone back to places that were polluted with them and not a one
#956 [10:52] <Morrolan> Heh, odd.
#957 [10:52] <enament> when i mean polluted i mean 100's
#958 [10:52] <enament> but now not even one
#959 [10:52] <SinZ> Morrolan: iirc it used to be possible
#960 [10:52] <SinZ> havent tested recently, but it was possible
#961 [10:53] <enament> I have traveled 5 full maps and not one
#962 [10:53] <enament> not onje pig
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#965 [10:53] <SinZ> enament: I highly doubt you explored the entire map
#966 [10:53] <Morrolan> SinZ - Might have been possible, but now it'll invalidate the old session ID.
#967 [10:53] <minerdude146> Also, i have bad vid card drivers and they are fully updated, so does that mean the only way i could play would be to get a new computer or new vid drivers, as the drivers i have are pretty old
#968 [10:53] <enament> I have never had such a hard time finding a pig
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#970 [10:54] <SinZ> Morrolan: because i've been able to have two minecraft screens open at once, both on seperate minecraft servers, both online mode
#971 [10:54] <Morrolan> minerdude146 - First update your video card's drivers from the manufacturer's website. If that doesn't help then yea, your card is simply too old.
#972 [10:54] <enament> no i didn't explore the whole map I explored five maps in all
#973 [10:54] <enament> and not one
#974 [10:54] <minerdude146> ok, i thought so, thanks
#975 [10:54] <Morrolan> enament - Worst case you could use INVEdit or similar to give you two pig eggs. :)
#976 [10:54] <SinZ> they are only found in plains biomes iirc
#977 [10:54] <Morrolan> (After that, some wheat'll do wonders)
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#981 [10:56] <enament> yes i have gone to the plains bio's where they normally are and not one
#982 [10:56] <enament> ive been to all the places where i hve seen them in the past and not one
#983 [10:57] <enament> how do you do this ---->Worst case you could use INVEdit or similar to give you two pig eggs
#984 [10:57] <Morrolan> INVEdit is a tool to edit your inventory. Can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/14190-145-invedit-minecraft-inventory-editor/
#985 [10:58] <enament> did any one update and check if there are pigs on their maps?
#986 [10:58] <Lutzee> Yes, i have pigs on my maps
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#988 [11:02] <enament> 'strange ill keep looking
#989 [11:02] <enament> grrr this is so frustrating
#990 [11:03] <Morrolan> http://morrolan.ch/minecrafthelp/mc_1.4.6_there_shall_be_pigs.png definitely pigs. :)
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#993 [11:04] <Calinou> .ch, seems legit
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#995 [11:04] <Calinou> Morrolan: 63fps? what hardware do you have... even my 4 year old laptop does better i think :P
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#997 [11:06] <Morrolan> :<
#998 [11:06] <Morrolan> It's not too bad, really.
#999 [11:06] <Morrolan> An, uh, AMD Phenom II x4 9somethingsomething.
#1000 [11:07] <Morrolan> 965, says dxdiag.
#1001 [11:09] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/9CCSW.png this is called a Grim Full Scan
#1002 [11:09] <Grim_Reaper> full grim*
#1003 [11:09] <Morrolan> chessbox_spec?
#1004 [11:10] <Morrolan> Ah, specular?
#1005 [11:10] <Grim_Reaper> Scanning a texture lol
#1006 [11:10] <Grim_Reaper> But Im doing a full disk scan
#1007 [11:10] <Calinou> .dds is for software patents
#1008 [11:10] <Grim_Reaper> AND THEN.. After thats finally done
#1009 [11:10] <Grim_Reaper> I shall do a bootime scan
#1010 [11:10] <Calinou> anyway, antiviruses. are. beyond. pointless.
#1011 [11:10] <Calinou> (even if you use windows)
#1012 [11:10] <Morrolan> What websites did you visit, you said?
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#1016 [11:14] <enament> i wish i could throw a saddle on something else besides a pig
#1017 [11:14] <enament> still no luck
#1018 [11:15] <Tribor7> i think mcedit could do that
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#1020 [11:15] <Tribor7> but im no pro at mcedit
#1021 [11:15] <enament> well take care
#1022 [11:15] <Morrolan> Just use an inventory editor to get yourself some pig eggs. :)
#1023 [11:15] <Tribor7> !afk
#1024 [11:16] <Tribor7> yes
#1025 [11:16] <Tribor7> And a carrot on a stick
#1026 [11:17] <Tribor7> How do i repel creepers
#1027 [11:17] <Tribor7> ?
#1028 [11:17] <Morrolan> Repel?
#1029 [11:17] <Tribor7> I made a house and i want them to stay away
#1030 [11:17] <Morrolan> Uh, I believe they're afraid of cats.
#1031 [11:17] <Tribor7> too bad
#1032 [11:17] <Morrolan> Apart from that, just build a fence around your house, and make sure that the inside is lit enough.
#1033 [11:17] <Tribor7> i know
#1034 [11:18] <Tribor7> i can do that
#1035 [11:19] <Tribor7> i have a couple of stacks of diamonds on my server and i dunno what to use them for
#1036 [11:19] <Tribor7> any ideas?
#1037 [11:19] <Morrolan> A statue. :)
#1038 [11:20] <Tribor7> i can barely make a stack of diamond blocks
#1039 [11:20] <Morrolan> Or a diamond tools giveaway. ;)
#1040 [11:20] <Tribor7> well there are just 2 people on the server
#1041 [11:20] <Tribor7> me and my friend
#1042 [11:20] <Morrolan> Alternatively, put some random diamond blocks into your house's floor.
#1043 [11:20] <Morrolan> Or, hmm, craft jukeboxes. Lots of them.
#1044 [11:20] <Tribor7> well i dont have musical discs
#1045 [11:21] <Tribor7> and that is a shame, there are dungeons all around our base
#1046 [11:21] <Tribor7> and a mineshaft
#1047 [11:21] <Tribor7> btw is there only 1 cave spider spawner per mineshaft or is there more?
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#1050 [11:23] <Tribor7> how much cave spider spawners are in one mineshaft?
#1051 [11:24] <Lutzee> Its random
#1052 [11:24] <enament> ok using the edit was easy not hard as i expected i now have pig eggs thank you
#1053 [11:24] <Tribor7> ok
#1054 [11:24] <nemobubbles11> We paid for Minecraft threw paypal and we keep getting a default message saying something about a bad video driver. What does that mean and how can we get past it?
#1055 [11:24] <enament> I shall have pigs
#1056 [11:24] <Selbram> You will need to update your video drivers
#1057 [11:24] <Tribor7> what is your video card?
#1058 [11:24] <Lutzee> ??> nemobubbles11 win/dxdiag
#1059 [11:24] <VoxelHead> nemobubbles11: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1060 [11:25] <Tribor7> go to your retailers website and dl the latest drivers
#1061 [11:25] <VoxelHead> nemobubbles11: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1063 [11:26] <nemobubbles11> Is there an easier way, I'm terrible at stuff like this so my 11 yr old has to do it.
#1064 [11:26] <Tribor7> go to your video cards retailers website
#1065 [11:26] <Lutzee> nemobubbles11: no. please follow VoxelHeads instructions, they aren't difficult
#1066 [11:26] <Selbram> That is the easiest way. Just follow the directions and we will be able to help.
#1067 [11:26] <Tribor7> and download the latest drivers
#1068 [11:27] <nemobubbles11> Ok I will try
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#1070 [11:27] <Tribor7> nemobubbles11: Download the latest drivers from your video card retailers websiter
#1071 [11:28] <Calinou> what is your graphics card brand?
#1072 [11:28] <Tribor7> Adios!
#1073 [11:28] <Tribor7> Adios!
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#1084 [11:50] <LionCrusher> can someone help me?
#1085 [11:50] <LionCrusher> anyone?
#1086 [11:51] <LionCrusher> Ok well when i open minecraft, it loads fine i see the done loading but then it turns black, i think this is because java crashes
#1087 [11:51] <LionCrusher> i have tried everything, uninstalling minecraft and java, restarting,
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#1097 [12:26] <Grim_Reaper> free2mine
#1098 [12:26] <Grim_Reaper> Did anybody see that?
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#1100 [12:27] <bildramer> not me
#1101 [12:27] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Hmm?
#1102 [12:27] <Morrolan> Also, I'm trying to figure out what that banmask means.
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#1109 [12:38] <BooMaster> I have an up to date version of bukkit on my computer. Before the 1.4.6 update my friends and o a lot of other people could join the server with no problems. After the update however, people cant join all of a sudden. My ports are forwarded, no firewalls are up, ive checked that the ports are forwarded correctly and connection can be sent to the server and back on my computer. Yet no one can join, could anyone help me out with
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#1112 [12:39] <BooMaster> I have an up to date version of bukkit on my computer. Before the 1.4.6 update my friends and o a lot of other people could join the server with no problems. After the update however, people cant join all of a sudden. My ports are forwarded, no firewalls are up, ive checked that the ports are forwarded correctly and connection can be sent to the server and back on my computer. Yet no one can join, could anyone help me out with
#1113 [12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> BooMaster mods
#1114 [12:40] <VoxelHead> BooMaster: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1115 [12:40] <VoxelHead> BooMaster: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1116 [12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> also please dont spam BooMaster
#1117 [12:41] <BooMaster> it was two posts
#1118 [12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> BooMaster: two very large posts within a minute which were the same thing
#1119 [12:42] <BooMaster> I have an up to date version of bukkit on my computer. Before the 1.4.6 update my friends and o a lot of other people could join the server with no problems. After the update however, people cant join all of a sudden. My ports are forwarded, no firewalls are up, ive checked that the ports are forwarded correctly and connection can be sent to the server and back on my computer. Yet no one can join, could anyone help me out with
#1120 [12:42] <BooMaster> I have an up to date version of bukkit on my computer. Before the 1.4.6 update my friends and o a lot of other people could join the server with no problems. After the update however, people cant join all of a sudden. My ports are forwarded, no firewalls are up, ive checked that the ports are forwarded correctly and connection can be sent to the server and back on my computer. Yet no one can join, could anyone help me out with
#1121 [12:42] <BooMaster> there
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#1123 [12:43] <Eddie> That was educational.
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#1125 [12:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> T_T
#1126 [12:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> some people are stupid
#1127 [12:44] <SirCmpwn> "some"
#1128 [12:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> SirCmpwn: ?
#1129 [12:45] <SirCmpwn> a more appropriate word would be "most"
#1130 [12:45] <SirCmpwn> most of our race is sickeningly stupid
#1131 [12:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
#1132 [12:47] <Grim_Reaper> !op
#1133 [12:47] <Grim_Reaper> !devoice
#1134 [12:47] <Grim_Reaper> >_>
#1135 [12:48] <Grim_Reaper> Eddie a little help plz
#1136 [12:48] <Lutzee> Theres no chanserv bot in here
#1137 [12:48] <Grim_Reaper> Oh wait I think I know what I can do
#1138 [12:48] <Grim_Reaper> Oh wait I think I know what I can do
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#1141 [12:48] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#1142 [12:48] <Grim_Reaper> damnit
#1143 [12:48] <Lutzee> :)
#1144 [12:48] <Grim_Reaper> >_>
#1145 [12:49] <Grim_Reaper> ok Lutzee I'll have to use you to test
#1146 [12:49] <Grim_Reaper> ffs VoxelHead D:
#1147 [12:49] <Grim_Reaper> Sigh I'll test in another channel
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#1149 [12:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> Grim_Reaper: what on earth are you trying to do
#1150 [12:49] <Grim_Reaper> a text ban
#1151 [12:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> Grim_Reaper: ?
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#1153 [12:50] <Grim_Reaper> Think of it as a world filter
#1154 [12:51] <Morrolan> I don't think Esper has such a thing.
#1155 [12:51] <Morrolan> Even if they do, you wouldn't have to put it inside a regular banmask, but more something along the lines fo Extban.
#1156 [12:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> Grim_Reaper: dunno what a world filter is :S
#1157 [12:51] <Grim_Reaper> Not sure how to do it on here Morrolan =\
#1158 [12:52] <Morrolan> Their IRCd will just not support it , I guess.
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#1160 [12:52] <Grim_Reaper> bleh
#1161 [12:53] <Eddie> What is this wizardry?
#1162 [12:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> what is |T:block:*free2mine*
#1163 [12:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> s/|/~
#1164 [12:53] <Grim_Reaper> It's meant to be a text ban >_>
#1165 [12:53] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - One could just add it to VoxelHead's or AuBot's blacklist.
#1166 [12:53] <Grim_Reaper> It is I believe
#1167 [12:56] <SinZ> well, his two known IPs are in the blacklist
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#1169 [12:56] <SinZ> iStill think it would of been easier to let the ircops do a kline on him
#1170 [12:57] <xFlakesID> What's up
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#1179 [13:26] <Kylan> i was wondering if anyone knew about how many mods minecraft can handle?
#1180 [13:27] <Morrolan> Depends entirely on the mods.
#1181 [13:27] <Lutzee> As many as you can get to play nice together
#1182 [13:27] <Kylan> ok
#1183 [13:28] <Kylan> so if i wanted powercraft buildcraft and industrial craft would that be too much? overkill? im sorry probably stupid questions im a noob
#1184 [13:29] <Lutzee> if powercraft uses the forge APi then should be fine
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#1187 [13:29] <Kylan> ok it does
#1188 [13:30] <Kylan> i just went on a mod frenzy and minecraft crashes now :P
#1189 [13:30] <Kylan> forge loads just fine but the client itself crashes thats why i am asking
#1190 [13:30] <Lutzee> Kylan: you may want to look into using the feed the beast modpack
#1191 [13:30] <Lutzee> well one of them... there is a few
#1192 [13:31] <Kylan> whats its name?
#1193 [13:31] <Lutzee> Kylan: feed-the-breast.com it includes buildcraft and industrialcraft in some of the packs available
#1194 [13:32] <Kylan> ok awesome thank you :D
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#1198 [13:40] <Scott> Lutzee: feed the breast
#1199 [13:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> Lutzee: feed-the.breast?
#1200 [13:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> xD
#1201 [13:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> *-
#1202 [13:41] <Lutzee> feed-the-breast.com
#1203 [13:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> winning
#1204 [13:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> i think that should go in the motd
#1205 [13:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> Scott
#1206 [13:41] <Scott> I think you mean feed-the-beast.com
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#1208 [13:41] <Lutzee> yeah
#1209 [13:41] <Lutzee> oops
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#1211 [13:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#1212 [13:42] <Scott> Getting boobies confused with beasts probably isn't going to get you far with sexytiem.
#1213 [13:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> Lutzee, directing kids looking for minecraft mods with breast feeding fetishes since 2013
#1214 [13:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> *TO
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#1216 [13:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> oops caps
#1217 [13:43] <Lutzee> I was being attacked by a zombie >:(
#1218 [13:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> Lutzee: no excuse
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#1227 [13:59] <light> we bought minecraft downloaded it and ran it now cant play it
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#1229 [14:00] <PotatoChip> Hello
#1230 [14:00] <light> how do we get to play
#1231 [14:00] <light> hi
#1232 [14:01] <PotatoChip> I've been trying to play minecraft in browser and well as in launcher but it fails each time. When I try in browser I get a white screen and when I use the launcher it lets me login but then closes the launcher by itself
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#1234 [14:02] <PotatoChip> Can anyone help me?
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#1237 [14:03] <PotatoChip> I'm confused, is this the minecraft help chat?
#1238 [14:04] <TheNoodle> Yes.
#1239 [14:04] <PotatoChip> Can you help me with my problem?
#1240 [14:04] <TheNoodle> Nope, sorry.
#1241 [14:05] <PotatoChip> Unfortunate D:
#1242 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> PotatoChip: please state the nature of the Minecraft emergency.
#1243 [14:08] <PotatoChip> Well I can't play minecraft at all
#1244 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> what happens when you try?
#1245 [14:09] <PotatoChip> When I open minecraft in browser I get a blank white screen. When I open it in a launcher it lets me logs in but the window closes itself
#1246 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> ?? PotatoChip specs
#1247 [14:10] <PotatoChip> At first I thought it was a java problem but my version is updated to version 7
#1248 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> ?? > PotatoChip specs
#1249 [14:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> DopeGhoti: its ??>
#1250 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> it must be Thursday
#1251 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> ??> PotatoChip specs
#1252 [14:10] <VoxelHead> PotatoChip: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#1253 [14:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#1254 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> I could never get the hang of Thursdays
#1255 [14:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> :)
#1256 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> I wrote the damn bot; you'd think I'd have its syntax down
#1257 [14:11] <Gone_Ralex> DopeGhoti: or you are even more confused about how it works xD
#1258 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> well, I started the day doing shell scripting, and there I put spaces around my pipes and redirects, so.
#1259 [14:12] * Gone_Ralex goes back to destroying his bot's api
#1259 [14:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> DopeGhoti: spaces around redirects? u crazy
#1260 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> Gone_Ralex: do tell
#1261 [14:12] <Gone_Ralex> DopeGhoti: java irc bot, somewhat has an api
#1262 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> WhereIsMySpoon: I may be crazy, but I like readable code. do_a_thing > sometoolorfile is more readable to me than is do_a_thing>sometoolorfile
#1263 [14:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> DopeGhoti: do you do 2>&1 or 2 > &1
#1264 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> '2> &1'
#1265 [14:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
#1266 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> though more often than not I exlpictly say to where I am redirecting sederr
#1267 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> stderr even
#1268 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> though I have a this function often defined:
#1269 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> stfu() { $* > /dev/null 2> &1 }
#1270 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> so that I don't have to keep bitbucketing output of chatty interim steps (:
#1271 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> I just do `stfu noisy_thing arg1 arg2`
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#1273 [14:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> DopeGhoti: how does putting all of the method args into /dev/null help you
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#1277 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> WhereIsMySpoon: that doesn't put the arguments in /dev/null, it takes all the args to `stfu` and runs them as would eval(), and redirects the output to /dev/null
#1278 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> a function's $* overrides the value of '$*' (and ilk) seen in the global scope of a script
#1279 [14:20] <enderman797> I need help with opengl mode for windows 8
#1280 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> enderman797: care to be more specific?
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#1283 [14:21] <enderman797> when i try to install i recieved an errorr bad driver, i just installed window 8 pro and all the drivers are up to date
#1284 [14:23] <enderman797> * install minecraft
#1285 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> enderman797: what GPU have you got in your system?
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#1287 [14:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> DopeGhoti: i thought $* was all of a bash method's args concatenated into a word
#1288 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> WhereIsMySpoon: inless it's a function, in which case it's the _function's_ arguments.
#1289 [14:28] <enderman797> It's a compaq laptop with an intel 969 chipset
#1290 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> ??> enderman797 gpu/intel
#1291 [14:28] <VoxelHead> enderman797: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1292 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> enderman797: if that doesn't work for you, your laptop might not be able to run Minecraft.
#1293 [14:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> DopeGhoti: oh i see
#1294 [14:33] <enderman797> DopeGhoti: I'm downloading now and will try it again, I'm running a couple MMO on the laptop with no issues.
#1295 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> Most MMOs don't have nearly the requirements that Minecraft does.
#1296 [14:34] <Lutzee> Yeah.. minecraft doesn't use the same graphics system as most games
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#1298 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> don't let its retro styling fool you
#1299 [14:34] <husman> I am not able to purchase this game, can you please help
#1300 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> husman: what means are you using to purchase, and what happens when you try?
#1301 [14:35] <husman> I am using my credit card and it has denied me 3 times
#1302 [14:35] <husman> I think it is because I put the name under my son and the card holder is myself so it got messed up
#1303 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> is it a proper credit card, or a prepaid debit card?
#1304 [14:35] <husman> normal credit card
#1305 [14:36] <husman> I called my credit card and it is fine with plenty of credit
#1306 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> Call the phone number on the back of the card, and tell the CSR that you are trying to make an international transaction
#1307 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> it could be a fraud prevention measure
#1308 [14:36] <husman> it denied due to fraud...but I called and they said that i need to call you
#1309 [14:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> husman: we're not mojang, but do what DopeGhoti just said
#1310 [14:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> explicitly mention its international
#1311 [14:37] <husman> ok, will try thanks
#1312 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> We're just community volunteers here; we can't do anything directly with your monies (:
#1313 [14:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dunno, i am nigerian prince, i have access to many money#
#1314 [14:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> ;)
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#1321 [14:49] <husman> hello, i verified that my credit card charged me for this game yesterday....I still do not have the email and the ability to login. Can you assist, please?
#1322 [14:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> husman: not really, you need to call your credit card company
#1323 [14:49] <husman> I did! twice
#1324 [14:50] <husman> I have been charged for the game....and do not have a game to play
#1325 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> husman: is the charge still pending, or has it actually gone through?
#1326 [14:50] <husman> not pending, it has been approved
#1327 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> okay, so that means that the monies have gone on to Moenybookers, who have to send them to Mojang
#1328 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> ?? payment
#1329 [14:50] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang don't process money directly from payments made, but accept payment them through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of these payments, your account will be credited with premium status. This may take a few hours, be patient.
#1330 [14:50] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://is.gd/mc_activation
#1331 [14:51] * DopeGhoti makes a note to adjust the second line of that FAQlet
#1331 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> husman: how long ago was the transaction completed?
#1332 [14:51] <husman> this is ridiculous, the website said we should get an email in one hour....it has been 24 hours
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#1334 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> husman: are you able to log in at https://account.mojang.com/me ?
#1335 [14:52] <husman> NO
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#1339 [14:54] <husman> I am already logged into https:..account.mojang.com/me
#1340 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> so by 'no' you mean 'yes'? okay, that's a start. Do you see Minecraft under 'My Games'?
#1341 [14:58] <husman> yes
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#1343 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> husman: Excellent!
#1344 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> This means that your account is, if not already active, about to be.
#1345 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> what do you see under 'Profile Name' for Minecraft on that page?
#1346 [15:00] <husman> I just read in the activation area that it could take 2-3 days to get the email. Is this correct? This is confilicting information...when you sign up it says you will get the email in one hour.
#1347 [15:01] <husman> sorry, it says 3-5 business days...was incorrect
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#1352 [15:14] <sugoi> hello hello
#1353 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> ahoy hoi
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#1365 [15:52] <kiamasters> hello?
#1366 [15:53] <kiamasters> hello is there anyone here that may help me im having a problem
#1367 [15:55] <sugoi> kiamasters: we'll try
#1368 [15:55] <sugoi> also, when you join an irc channel, feel free to just ask, no need to ask to ask
#1369 [15:55] <kiamasters> ik im just maaking sure there is no like line or something k? anyway...
#1370 [15:56] <kiamasters> Every time i try to start up minecraft it just loads for a second then nothing pops up no launcher nothing....also i deleted my roaming appdata .minecraft folder i have 32 java ok?
#1371 [15:56] <kiamasters> so...
#1372 [15:57] <kiamasters> Thats probably why and i can reinstall that data so how do i :*(
#1373 [15:57] <kiamasters> cant*
#1374 [15:57] <sugoi> you've deleted your .minecraft folder
#1375 [15:57] <sugoi> and now that you run the launcher again, does that folder reappear?
#1376 [15:57] <kiamasters> yeeeea not my brightest move
#1377 [15:57] <kiamasters> nope
#1378 [15:57] <sugoi> kiamasters: there is nothing wrong with removing that folder, don't worry
#1379 [15:58] <sugoi> has it worked before? (The game)
#1380 [15:58] <kiamasters> it worked so well! in fact i can play tekkit with it...*not sure if that speaks for something though*
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#1382 [15:58] <sugoi> right now, on that machine, tekkit works?
#1383 [15:59] <kiamasters> no tekkit dont work when this dont work
#1384 [15:59] <sugoi> ok
#1385 [15:59] <kiamasters> just ignore tekkit for now k *^.^
#1386 [15:59] <sugoi> i would be tempted to uninstall java, and reinstall
#1387 [15:59] <sugoi> is your harddrive full?
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#1389 [16:00] <sugoi> so does starting tekkit fail in a similar way?
#1390 [16:00] <kiamasters> i already did the java thing and my harddrive isnt full
#1391 [16:00] <kiamasters> i think one sec
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#1393 [16:01] <Jim> Is this an official help site?
#1394 [16:01] <sugoi> Jim: nope, we're all volunteers
#1395 [16:01] <Jim> OK
#1396 [16:01] <kiamasters> so any way is there any other ways you can help me sugoi?
#1397 [16:02] <sugoi> Jim: there is no official help channel
#1398 [16:02] <sugoi> but this one is good :)
#1399 [16:02] <Jim> is there a way to download or view all chat sessions from the game?
#1400 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> There is not
#1401 [16:02] <sugoi> you can email mojang directly as well, but the time for a reply may take some time
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#1403 [16:02] <Jim> My son has bveen accussed of harassing somone - I don think he was even on the server as the same jid
#1404 [16:02] <Jim> kid
#1405 [16:03] <Jim> want to view his chat logs to verfiy
#1406 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> chat logs are unfortunately, not saved client-side
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#1408 [16:03] <Jim> ok
#1409 [16:03] <sugoi> Jim: those are saved on the server side tho
#1410 [16:03] <Jim> can mojag grab and send if I email them?
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#1412 [16:03] <sugoi> kiamasters: yeah, what happened when you tried to start tekkit
#1413 [16:04] <sugoi> Jim: mojang doesn't have it
#1414 [16:04] <sugoi> the person hosting the server does
#1415 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Jim - Mojang runs no servers. Servers are independantly run
#1416 [16:04] <Jim> ahh
#1417 [16:04] <Jim> ok...
#1418 [16:04] <Jim> that might not work then
#1419 [16:04] <sugoi> Jim: bc it is the server admin accusing him of the behavior?
#1420 [16:04] <Jim> no
#1421 [16:05] <sugoi> Jim: well if i were the admin (i am an admin of a server, tho clearly not the one in question) i would be GLAD to give you the logs
#1422 [16:05] <Jim> some kid (who also accuesed him of picking on him at school - which was proven to be false) is now accusing him of "being mean" on minecraft
#1423 [16:05] <sugoi> Jim: ok, and do you know which server this occurred on?
#1424 [16:06] <Jim> I asked him and he said he never even uses the the chat bar but he does play in multiplayer game
#1425 [16:06] <sugoi> i'm not asking for the name/address, jsut yes/no
#1426 [16:06] <sugoi> sure, ok -- but if you can learn what server this happened on
#1427 [16:06] <Jim> the servers are blockville beta
#1428 [16:06] <sugoi> you could then work to contact an admin on that server
#1429 [16:06] <Jim> and www.mcctf.com
#1430 [16:07] <Jim> and some lan stuff when he goers to his freinds house
#1431 [16:07] <sugoi> Jim: ok, cool, just email their people, ask for a copy of the log with lines of chat from your son and this other kid
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#1433 [16:07] <Jim> I dont think he did anything and he knows I "work on computers" and can check
#1434 [16:07] <Jim> will do
#1435 [16:07] <Jim> thanks
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#1437 [16:07] <sugoi> Jim: i wish you luck :)
#1438 [16:08] <Jim> appreciate the help..opensource help rocks
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#1440 [16:08] <sugoi> heh
#1441 [16:08] <sugoi> kiamasters: welcome back
#1442 [16:08] <kiamasters> yea sorry i crashed a bit
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#1444 [16:09] <kiamasters> so is there any other ideas you got for me
#1445 [16:09] <sugoi> well i wanted to know what happened when you try to start tekkit
#1446 [16:09] <kiamasters> same thing really
#1447 [16:09] <sugoi> i just find it interesting they both fail, and you've reinstalled java
#1448 [16:09] <sugoi> so no window, and for the vanilla minecraft launcher, is there an error file created?
#1449 [16:10] <sugoi> or an error window?
#1450 [16:10] <kiamasters> nope
#1451 [16:10] <sugoi> kiamasters: windows machine?
#1452 [16:10] <kiamasters> its...a dinows yes?
#1453 [16:11] <kiamasters> window*
#1454 [16:11] <sugoi> kiamasters: and check right now, there is no %appdata%/.minecraft folder?
#1455 [16:12] <sugoi> open your run dialod, type in %appdata%, enter, look for .minecraft
#1456 [16:12] <sugoi> dialog*
#1457 [16:12] <kiamasters> caps
#1458 [16:12] <kiamasters> ABSOLUTELY NO FOLDER
#1459 [16:13] <sugoi> haha
#1460 [16:13] <sugoi> ok, delete your launcher exe, and redownload from minecraft.net/download
#1461 [16:16] <kiamasters> just a bit more
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#1463 [16:17] <kiamasters_> sugoi>?
#1464 [16:17] <kiamasters_> sugoi are you there?
#1465 [16:17] <sugoi> yep
#1466 [16:17] <sugoi> just a bit more what?
#1467 [16:18] <kiamasters_> sorry im still finding any extra launcher
#1468 [16:18] <sugoi> "extra" ?
#1469 [16:18] <kiamasters_> please dont ask
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#1471 [16:19] <sugoi> um ok
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#1473 [16:19] <sugoi> have you downloaded the launcher fresh, and run it?
#1474 [16:19] <Obsidian> Hey everyone. My friends and I made a map on our server and we played for a while. Then we realized whenever we enter into certain chunks we get a few seconds of extreme lag
#1475 [16:19] <NinjaKirby> lol, "please dont ask", brilliant
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#1477 [16:20] <Obsidian> It seems like these areas are in a circle around a single chunk: entering into this chunk doesn't result in lag, but moving OUT of it does
#1478 [16:20] <sugoi> Obsidian: does it ever work itself out? have you waited for a good amount of time?
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#1480 [16:20] <Obsidian> Yeah this has been happening for a while now. It's never resolved sadly.
#1481 [16:21] <Obsidian> I recently merged the world file with another world, and added bukkit, but the lag areas are in the exact same places.
#1482 [16:21] <Obsidian> We figured it might fix itself when I merged the two worlds together, but it had no effect whatsoever.
#1483 [16:22] <kiamasters_> didnt work
#1484 [16:22] <sugoi> how is the cpu during that time?
#1485 [16:22] <Camgamer23> getting a error message saying bad video card any help?
#1486 [16:22] <Obsidian> I'll test it and let you know, give me a moment.
#1487 [16:22] <sugoi> kiamasters_: can you run the exe from command line?
#1488 [16:22] <kiamasters_> ...explain please v.v
#1489 [16:22] <kiamasters_> how to do so*
#1490 [16:22] <Camgamer23> not sure how to sorry new to minecraft
#1491 [16:23] <Obsidian> Frame rate and chunk updates dramatically lower though when I watch the debug panel. CPU doesn't change much at all.
#1492 [16:24] <sugoi> Obsidian: thank you, but i meant on the server
#1493 [16:24] <kiamasters_> sugoi what do i type in on the cmd prompt
#1494 [16:24] <sugoi> kiamasters_: open a run dialog, type cmd, go to your downloads folder, and just type the minecraft.exe filename (that you downloaded from minecraft.net/download
#1495 [16:25] <Obsidian> Oh, right. Sorry. CPU on the server doesn't change much at all, looking at the graph.
#1496 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> Obsidian: that's not surprising
#1497 [16:25] <Obsidian> Usually stays around 20-30% total usage.
#1498 [16:25] <Obsidian> Doesn't spike.
#1499 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> the client'd debug overlay is entirely clientside
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#1501 [16:25] <kiamasters_> ...
#1502 [16:26] <kiamasters_> i dont understand
#1503 [16:26] <kiamasters_> well i do but it didnt work
#1504 [16:26] <sugoi> kiamasters_: what happened
#1505 [16:26] <kiamasters_> unrecgonized
#1506 [16:27] <sugoi> "'minecraft.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command" ?
#1507 [16:27] <kiamasters_> yea
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#1509 [16:27] <sugoi> you didn't go to the folder when you downloaded the launcher
#1510 [16:27] <sugoi> when you downloaded the launcher, where did you save it?
#1511 [16:27] <kiamasters_> to downloads
#1512 [16:28] <kiamasters_> where was i suposed to save it
#1513 [16:28] <juanitto> Could any body help me, I have bought the product and I am not able to login in the game, with the same user and password than in my account
#1514 [16:28] <sugoi> run `dir`, do you see minecraft.exe listed? do you see the other files in your downloads folder listed?
#1515 [16:28] <sugoi> juanitto: are you using your email address? (you should)
#1516 [16:29] <juanitto> let me retry
#1517 [16:29] <kiamasters_> i do not see minecraft,exe listed
#1518 [16:29] <kiamasters_> .*
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#1520 [16:29] <Obsidian> sugoi: CPU remains level on the server, no real spikes to speak of.
#1521 [16:29] <sugoi> kiamasters_: then you are in the wrong place
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#1523 [16:30] <kiamasters_> what do i do then
#1524 [16:30] <sugoi> Obsidian: i'm at work, but would be interested in investigating when i get home
#1525 [16:30] <sugoi> Obsidian: i'm at work, but would be interested in investigating when i get home
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#1528 [16:30] <Obsidian> Ah okay, cool. Just PM me when you're available to talk.
#1529 [16:30] <sugoi> things i would look for would be updating blocks, floating entities, etc
#1530 [16:31] <sugoi> Obsidian: would you be interested in sending me a copy of your world (vanilla or bukkit-ized, i can run either)
#1531 [16:31] <juanitto> the answer is: can´t connect to minecraft server
#1532 [16:31] <kiamasters_> what do i do then sugoi?
#1533 [16:31] <Obsidian> Yeah, that's fine with me.
#1534 [16:31] <Obsidian> I'll send you a mediafire link in a PM.
#1535 [16:31] <sugoi> juanitto: ah
#1536 [16:31] <juanitto> do you know what is the problem?
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#1538 [16:31] <sugoi> Obsidian: sounds good, if you stay in this chat, i'll be able to test for you in 6 hours
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#1540 [16:32] <sugoi> juanitto: probably anti-virus
#1541 [16:32] <juanitto> I am sorry the answer is: can´t connect to minecraft.net
#1542 [16:33] <sugoi> juanitto: yes, can you disable (temporarily) your anti virus and firewall, and retry?
#1543 [16:33] <kiamasters_> sugoi waddo i do?
#1544 [16:33] <juanitto> ok let me do
#1545 [16:33] <sugoi> kiamasters_: you are in the wrong folder
#1546 [16:33] <sugoi> kiamasters_: the files listed, from `dir`, do you recognize them as files in your downloads folder?
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#1548 [16:33] <kiamasters_> no
#1549 [16:33] <kiamasters_> but wat do i do then
#1550 [16:34] <sugoi> cd Downloads
#1551 [16:34] <kiamasters_> ???
#1552 [16:35] <sugoi> kiamasters_: in your cmd window, change directory to your downloads folder
#1553 [16:35] <sugoi> where your minecraft.exe file should be
#1554 [16:35] <kiamasters_> how
#1555 [16:35] <sugoi> by typing `cd Downloads`
#1556 [16:35] <sugoi> then enter
#1557 [16:36] <kiamasters_> k now what happens
#1558 [16:37] <sugoi> run minecraft.exe
#1559 [16:37] <kiamasters_> oh my god do not tell me to type minecraft.exe and hit enter cause i JUST did that
#1560 [16:37] <sugoi> ok, then run dir and see if minecraft.exe is listed, or if your other download files are as well
#1561 [16:37] <kiamasters_> dir
#1562 [16:38] <kiamasters_> is
#1563 [16:38] <kiamasters_> oops
#1564 [16:38] <kiamasters_> umm minecraft is listed
#1565 [16:38] <sugoi> great, ok, so when you run minecraft.exe, what is printed in your cmd window afterwards?
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#1567 [16:39] <kiamasters_> nothing...
#1568 [16:40] <sugoi> and no windows of the launcher comes up either?
#1569 [16:40] <kiamasters_> nope
#1570 [16:40] <sugoi> and if you run just `java`, what is printed?
#1571 [16:41] <kiamasters_> its....
#1572 [16:41] <kiamasters_> Its not recognized
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#1574 [16:42] <sugoi> can you open your control panel, find 'java', click the 'java' tab in that new windows, and click the 'view' button
#1575 [16:42] <sugoi> is there a java version listed?
#1576 [16:44] <kiamasters_> umm it says version 7 update 2
#1577 [16:44] <kiamasters_> izzat right
#1578 [16:45] <sugoi> that's good
#1579 [16:45] <kiamasters_> ok so then...
#1580 [16:46] <sugoi> sec
#1581 [16:46] <sugoi> it is still my recommendation to remove java, and install it clean
#1582 [16:46] <kiamasters_> i did that already...
#1583 [16:47] <sugoi> in fact, remove every java version you find in your installed programs "programs and features"
#1584 [16:47] <kiamasters_> oh .-,
#1585 [16:47] <kiamasters_> ok
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#1587 [16:49] <juanitto> in any case when I try to play offline the box is dark and in the top left corner appears the simbol of java and Minecraft and nothing happens
#1588 [16:50] <kiamasters_> il brb
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#1590 [16:50] <sugoi> juanitto: black window you're saying?
#1591 [16:50] <juanitto> yes
#1592 [16:50] <juanitto> nothing in the window of the game
#1593 [16:51] <sugoi> did you try to disable your antivirus and firewall and try again?
#1594 [16:51] <sugoi> did you try to disable your antivirus and firewall and try again?
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#1596 [16:51] <juanitto> I will close the program and restart it
#1597 [16:52] <sugoi> that might allow you to log in
#1598 [16:52] <sugoi> and then we'd want to force update to make sure you have good vanilla files
#1599 [16:52] <juanitto> ok
#1600 [16:52] <juanitto> let me do itt
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#1602 [16:55] <J3SS> anyone willing to help me with minecart stuff?
#1603 [16:56] <sugoi> J3SS: plenty of us :)
#1604 [16:56] <J3SS> no, I mean as in helping me in game
#1605 [16:56] <sugoi> just ask (<- good irc etiquette)
#1606 [16:56] <sugoi> ah
#1607 [16:57] <J3SS> I'm building a subway you see
#1608 [16:57] <sugoi> #minecraft might be a better place to ask for players...i think
#1609 [16:57] <J3SS> ah
#1610 [16:57] <J3SS> ok
#1611 [16:57] <J3SS> just wondering as I'm not too good with redstone
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#1613 [16:58] <sugoi> well you can ask here, but typically people here are here to answer questions and dont have time to log in and play
#1614 [16:58] <sugoi> e.g. i'm at work while i'm 'here'
#1615 [16:59] <J3SS> ahh ok
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#1617 [16:59] <sugoi> redstone is beautifully simple while allowing for mindblowing complexity
#1618 [17:00] <sugoi> my advice, read the wiki (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_Circuits) and also youtube some examples
#1619 [17:00] <J3SS> I have
#1620 [17:00] <sugoi> lots of crappy vids out there, but you might find a couple good ones too
#1621 [17:01] <sugoi> J3SS: well the next step is to just practice
#1622 [17:01] <J3SS> the only real success I've had is with the hidden waterfall entrance
#1623 [17:01] <J3SS> untill I flooded the redstone
#1624 [17:02] <sugoi> what specific problem are you trying to solve now?
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#1626 [17:03] <J3SS> basically getting the cart to stop at an offloading bay then traveling on to a loading bay
#1627 [17:04] <J3SS> then getting boosted along the track a little to a powered rail
#1628 [17:04] <sugoi> to get a cart to stop, you can use the redstone powered track
#1629 [17:04] <J3SS> hold on
#1630 [17:04] <J3SS> had a eureka moment
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#1636 [17:09] <mcapa> cant log into a server
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#1638 [17:10] <mcapa> i believe i never got a verification emaik
#1639 [17:10] <sugoi> have you ever been able to play before?
#1640 [17:10] <mcapa> only offline
#1641 [17:10] <mcapa> it alway says login fiLWS
#1642 [17:10] <sugoi> what is your account name?
#1643 [17:11] <mcapa> failed
#1644 [17:11] <mcapa> mcapasso16@gmail.com
#1645 [17:11] <sugoi> !paid mcapasso16
#1646 [17:11] <mcapa> i only type in mcapasso16?
#1647 [17:11] <sugoi> no
#1648 [17:11] <sugoi> i'm...trying to see if your account is premium
#1649 [17:12] <J3SS> here's a question
#1650 [17:12] <sugoi> mcapa: what is the profile name you chose?
#1651 [17:12] <sugoi> J3SS: yeah
#1652 [17:12] <J3SS> have you bought minecraft?
#1653 [17:12] <mcapa> so the transaction may have never went thru>
#1654 [17:12] <mcapa> yes
#1655 [17:12] <J3SS> so it's not a cracked version?
#1656 [17:12] <sugoi> !paid mcapasso16@gmail.com
#1657 [17:12] <sugoi> mcapa: and when did you buy it?
#1658 [17:12] <sugoi> and from what site?
#1659 [17:12] <mcapa> i paid on a card yesterday
#1660 [17:13] <mcapa> minecraft.net
#1661 [17:13] <sugoi> prepaid card? or credit card?
#1662 [17:13] <mcapa> a visa gift card
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#1664 [17:13] <sugoi> that won't fly, you'll need a real credit card, or paypal
#1665 [17:13] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, you check usernames, not emails
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#1667 [17:13] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: k thanks
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#1669 [17:14] <sugoi> !paid mcapasso16
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#1671 [17:14] <mcapa> okay thank you
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#1679 [17:17] <WaxhawBuilder> I paid for the game a couple weeks ago and have been traveling so I'm just getting home. Have not been able to get it to work. I've downloaded it 5+ times and keep getting a message that the file is damaged and can't be opened. I would like to either get it working or get my money back.
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#1681 [17:18] <Lutzee> ??> WaxhawBuilder mac/gatekeeper
#1682 [17:18] <VoxelHead> WaxhawBuilder: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#1683 [17:21] <WaxhawBuilder> Just tried it. Same message. Minecraft is damaged and can't be opened. You should move it to the Trash".
#1684 [17:21] <sugoi> WaxhawBuilder: your problem IS the gatekeeper
#1685 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Read this: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#1686 [17:22] <sugoi> you need to delete the file, disable gatekeeper, and redownload
#1687 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Set gatekeeper to Anywhere
#1688 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Then download minecraft again
#1689 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Then blame Apple.
#1690 [17:22] <WaxhawBuilder> where do I find gate keeper to disable?
#1691 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Read: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
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#1693 [17:22] <sugoi> WaxhawBuilder: ^
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#1696 [17:23] <mcapa> i bought this game so i can be in the same world as a friend but how do get in the same world?
#1697 [17:23] <sugoi> mcapa: you can either connect to his world, or him to yours
#1698 [17:23] <sugoi> are you in the same house?
#1699 [17:23] <juanitto> I have disable the antivirus and firewal and again I havve the same answer: can´t cconnect to minecraft.net
#1700 [17:23] <mcapa> yes
#1701 [17:24] <mcapa> why cant i connect?
#1702 [17:24] <J3SS> is it his world?
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#1704 [17:24] <sugoi> mcapa: same house?
#1705 [17:24] <mcapa> its a lan world he has created
#1706 [17:24] <J3SS> has he opened it to lan?
#1707 [17:24] <mcapa> yes at the moment we are in the same house
#1708 [17:25] <mcapa> yes
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#1710 [17:25] <J3SS> what's the error you are getting?
#1711 [17:25] <sugoi> mcapa: also, i thought you didn't have the game paid
#1712 [17:25] <mcapa> i just bought it
#1713 [17:25] <mcapa> on my credit card
#1714 [17:25] <mcapa> and it finally allowed me to login without fail
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#1716 [17:25] <sugoi> ok
#1717 [17:26] <mcapa> i typed the ip number that his lan world is and it doesnt work
#1718 [17:26] <J3SS> no, no, no
#1719 [17:26] <sugoi> perhaps he hasn't given a firewall exception
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#1721 [17:26] <J3SS> if you are on the same network he just has to pause the game and hit open to LAN
#1722 [17:26] <juanitto> sugoi: I have disable the antivirus and firewal and again I havve the same answer: can´t cconnect to minecraft.net
#1723 [17:27] <sugoi> J3SS: he hasn't said they didn't
#1724 [17:27] <sugoi> but worth noting
#1725 [17:27] <mcapa> how does he make a firewall exception?
#1726 [17:27] <sugoi> juanitto: can you log in and play in browser: https://minecraft.net/play
#1727 [17:28] <sugoi> mcapa: as J3SS pointed out, has "he just has to pause the game and hit open to LAN" ?
#1728 [17:28] <juanitto> let me try
#1729 [17:29] <J3SS> is minecraft a one off purchase?
#1730 [17:29] <sugoi> one off purchase?
#1731 [17:29] <J3SS> figured it was time I stopped mooching off of my flatmates account
#1732 [17:29] <sugoi> oh you mean
#1733 [17:29] <sugoi> yeah
#1734 [17:30] <J3SS> oh
#1735 [17:30] <sugoi> you don't pay to play (there is no subscription)
#1736 [17:30] <mcapa> okay i am playing in the download version not browswe on my max
#1737 [17:30] <mcapa> mac
#1738 [17:30] <sugoi> you pay to purchase, then you have it
#1739 [17:30] <juanitto> updating minecraft
#1740 [17:30] <J3SS> that's good
#1741 [17:30] <mcapa> he is in a lan world and hit open to lan
#1742 [17:30] <juanitto> and suddenly the window goes white
#1743 [17:30] <mcapa> what next
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#1745 [17:30] <J3SS> go to multiplayer
#1746 [17:30] <J3SS> you
#1747 [17:30] <sugoi> he _just_ did that? try t..
#1748 [17:30] <sugoi> ^
#1749 [17:30] * sugoi hates double teaming
#1749 [17:31] <J3SS> and it should show up
#1750 [17:31] * sugoi reconsiders 'hate', not really 'hates', just, perfers not to
#1750 [17:31] * J3SS laughs at sugoi's slow reaction
#1750 [17:31] <mcapa> i went to multiplayer and its says scanning
#1751 [17:31] <mcapa> but nothing appears
#1752 [17:31] <juanitto> I have paid
#1753 [17:31] * sugoi is actually trying to work, not watch his irc connection constantly
#1753 [17:31] <mcapa> even when its open to LAN
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#1755 [17:32] <J3SS> is the other guy on a paid account?
#1756 [17:32] <sugoi> juanitto: good, so you were able to log in, and it is trying to install?
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#1758 [17:32] <juanitto> and?
#1759 [17:33] <sugoi> it was a yes or no question, not an 'and' question
#1760 [17:33] <sugoi> well, there were a few questions
#1761 [17:33] <juanitto> I don´t kknow
#1762 [17:33] <juanitto> the windows is wait in the browser
#1763 [17:33] <juanitto> white
#1764 [17:34] <J3SS> have yo tried updating java?
#1765 [17:34] <J3SS> you*
#1766 [17:34] <juanitto> and I am logged
#1767 [17:34] <mcapa> SUGOI how do i join his lan SERVER? he is on a pc and im on a laptop he is not using wifi i am
#1768 [17:35] <J3SS> sugoi I'm doing this AND chatting on 5 other IRCs AND working on my subway station at the same time
#1769 [17:36] <J3SS> is he on a paid account as well?
#1770 [17:36] <J3SS> this is quite important to know
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#1774 [17:37] <J3SS> some third party launchers/cracks or whatever mess with the multiplayer
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#1776 [17:37] <J3SS> to allow you to connect with certain servers
#1777 [17:38] <sugoi> mcapa: when he has opened it to LAN, and you try to connect, it should let you. perhaps it is blocking because of his firewall. when he hit 'open to lan', windows may have given him a popup asking if he wanted to give the program access through the firewall. he could also disable his firewall and you could try again.
#1778 [17:39] <sugoi> also what J3SS is saying could be an issue, except i would expect you'd get an error about version mismatch rather than just unable to connect
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#1780 [17:39] <mcapa> yes
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#1782 [17:40] <mcapa> we will see if the firewall is the issue
#1783 [17:40] <J3SS> IIRC it isn't even showing up on mcapa's multiplayer list
#1784 [17:41] <hugostgermain71> hi, i would like to know if someone can help me.
#1785 [17:41] <J3SS> mcapa can you connect to servers?
#1786 [17:41] <J3SS> don't ask to ask, just ask
#1787 [17:41] <mcapa> i turned my firewall off too
#1788 [17:41] <mcapa> could that be the issue too?
#1789 [17:41] <Lutzee> ??> hugostgermain71 ask
#1790 [17:41] <VoxelHead> hugostgermain71: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1791 [17:41] <VoxelHead> hugostgermain71: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1793 [17:41] <sugoi> J3SS: i never use the auto list feature, he said he was inputing the ip directly, so it'd be in his list
#1794 [17:41] <sugoi> but unable to connect to it
#1795 [17:42] <sugoi> mcapa: firewall off is only a good thing
#1796 [17:42] <sugoi> firewalls actually do jack squat
#1797 [17:42] <sugoi> once malware is on your machine, you're already hosed
#1798 [17:42] <hugostgermain71> we already paid, and we have the confirmation number for the purchase, we have no idea where to use it, can you direct me
#1799 [17:42] <J3SS> he shouldn't have to insert it if it is lan, it should just come up when he hits multiplayer from the main screen
#1800 [17:42] <sugoi> hugostgermain71: hold onto it
#1801 [17:43] <sugoi> keep in your records, it is your proof of purchase
#1802 [17:43] <mcapa> sugoi what do you think the issue is
#1803 [17:43] <sugoi> hugostgermain71: to play the game, just download the launcher from here: minecraft.net/download
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#1805 [17:43] <sugoi> log in with the email you used for your mojang account, and the password, and have fun :)
#1806 [17:44] <hugostgermain71> every time i try to play, its always asking to buy or play the demo
#1807 [17:45] <sugoi> hugostgermain71: are you playing from the launcher downloaded from minecraft.net/download ?
#1808 [17:45] <sugoi> mcapa: double check the ip, also, are you both using the same version of the game (e.g. vanilla, premium)
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#1812 [17:47] <mcapa> we both bought the 26.95 on the website
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#1814 [17:48] <edungeon> I'm trying to download the program and it isn't really downloading. Or it doesn't seem to be. It comes up with the log in screen and then eventually an error message of not enough memory
#1815 [17:49] <edungeon> Does anyone know what to do?
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#1818 [17:49] <edungeon> Help
#1819 [17:50] <cestislife> What is your problem edungeon?
#1820 [17:50] <edungeon> See above
#1821 [17:50] <mcapa> what should we do??? im giving up???
#1822 [17:50] <cestislife> I cannot, I have just joined the IRC.
#1823 [17:50] <mcapa> i just want to be in the same world as him so we can build together
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#1825 [17:50] <mcapa> what can the issue possibly be!1
#1826 [17:50] <edungeon> I had the program on my computer, but it was deleted. Now I can't download it. It keeps running form the web site
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#1828 [17:51] <cestislife> !client
#1829 [17:51] <hugostgermain71> already paid for the game, i have the confirmation number, and wen i try to go on to play the game, its always asking me to buy or to play the demo, were can i put the confirmation number, can anyone help me
#1830 [17:51] <cestislife> hugostgermain71, accounts.mojang.com
#1831 [17:52] <edungeon> I had to write to the people moneymovers and they sent my payment trans #
#1832 [17:52] <edungeon> Thank you for the link. I will try now.
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#1838 [17:55] <TaiOtoshi345> my son has just bought minecraft online
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#1840 [17:55] <TaiOtoshi345> but it is saying the graphics card isnt good enough
#1841 [17:56] <cestislife> Then that might be the problem.
#1842 [17:56] <TaiOtoshi345> what does it need he has a compaq mini
#1843 [17:56] <cestislife> If it is a laptop then replacing the graphics card might be of a hassle.
#1844 [17:56] <sugoi> and probably not possible, possibly
#1845 [17:56] <cestislife> TaiOtoshi345, I'd like a full DxDiag if possible
#1846 [17:56] <sugoi> i highly doubt any mini, esp compaq, is going to run minecraft
#1847 [17:57] <edungeon> The download links are the same I've used. I continue to get the message that Minecraft is out of memory. It really doesn't seem like the program is on my computer though. More like the web site
#1848 [17:57] <cestislife> Out of memory means you do not have enough RAM for minecraft edungeon.
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#1850 [17:57] <cestislife> Are you on a 64 bit system?
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#1852 [17:57] <edungeon> I have 1000
#1853 [17:58] <edungeon> that's not enough?
#1854 [17:58] <cestislife> 1gb is barely enough.
#1855 [17:58] <J3SS> I would recomend closing some programs
#1856 [17:58] <cestislife> Minecraft itself needs 1gb, and you still need some RAM left for your computer's operations.
#1857 [17:58] <sugoi> i believe the game asks for 1.5 by default?
#1858 [17:58] <cestislife> Nah, 1gb.
#1859 [17:59] <edungeon> But the thing is, it was on this computer before. Then it had a virus and the tech uninstalled it. All programs are closed.
#1860 [17:59] <J3SS> ahh
#1861 [17:59] <J3SS> yes
#1862 [17:59] <J3SS> but
#1863 [18:00] <edungeon> but?
#1864 [18:00] <J3SS> each update adds features that require more RAM/better CPUs etc.
#1865 [18:00] <sugoi> a failure to open for insufficient mem is not the same as out of mem exception
#1866 [18:00] <sugoi> what is likely happening is that the program is asking for a jvm with a minimum amount of ram
#1867 [18:00] <sugoi> and that his machine simply does not have that much available
#1868 [18:01] <sugoi> he could try to run the jar from command line, asking jvm for a smaller memory footprint than is default
#1869 [18:01] <edungeon> Okay, I found someplace where it says if you get that message you need to use notebook or something to add some wording or coding or something. I don't know what to add that info to.
#1870 [18:01] <J3SS> oh no, I'm not disputing that fact sugoi
#1871 [18:01] <edungeon> Especially, since I can't find the actual program on this computer anywhere.
#1872 [18:01] <J3SS> I'm just saying that minecraft's footprint has gotten bigger over the years
#1873 [18:01] <J3SS> as is to be expected
#1874 [18:01] <sugoi> indeed
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#1876 [18:02] <sugoi> ok, sorry, need to work
#1877 [18:02] <J3SS> ok
#1878 [18:02] <cestislife> Especially since the LAN introduction.
#1879 [18:02] <sugoi> edungeon: command line / batch file, that's what you're reading about
#1880 [18:02] <edungeon> wait...someone please address my 15:01 comment
#1881 [18:02] <edungeon> oh..where is that?
#1882 [18:02] <cestislife> It can be found by googling.
#1883 [18:03] <edungeon> whoa. I'm confused
#1884 [18:03] <cestislife> Open up notepad.
#1885 [18:04] <edungeon> done
#1886 [18:04] <J3SS> I swear I might make a program that will attempt to fix the out of memory problem
#1887 [18:04] <J3SS> during installation, then during play
#1888 [18:04] <cestislife> java -Xmx1000M -Xms500M -jar "Minecraft.exe"
#1889 [18:05] <cestislife> Paste that in it.
#1890 [18:05] <Lutzee> You dont even need a program.. you just pass more memory to the VM on startup..
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#1892 [18:05] <edungeon> done
#1893 [18:05] <cestislife> Save that to where your minecraft.exe is
#1894 [18:05] <cestislife> The launcher.
#1895 [18:05] <Lord_Ralex> J3SS, you cannot really "fix" it
#1896 [18:05] <Kylan> can anyone help me with ftb launcher?
#1897 [18:05] <cestislife> Save it as...
#1898 [18:05] <cestislife> run.bat
#1899 [18:05] <cestislife> Remember to change filetypes to "all files"
#1900 [18:05] <Lutzee> Kylan: do /join #ftblauncher and as there
#1901 [18:06] <edungeon> minecraft.exe is probably in a temp file somewhere. I'll be back
#1902 [18:06] <Kylan> ok thank you
#1903 [18:06] <edungeon> thank you by the way!!!! cestislife
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#1905 [18:08] <J3SS> oh I know there is no *real* fix, but there is the temp solution using command line
#1906 [18:08] <J3SS> it would be more for people who are squeamish when it comes to command line
#1907 [18:09] <cestislife> woo commands.
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#1910 [18:09] <cestislife|work> Stuff in today's snapshot seems... interesting.
#1911 [18:09] <Lord_Ralex> J3SS, MultiMC is one already
#1912 [18:10] <J3SS> perhaps I should do research before giving myself work
#1913 [18:11] <Lord_Ralex> heh
#1914 [18:11] <cestislife|work> lol
#1915 [18:11] <Lord_Ralex> MultiMC though is a bit more though
#1916 [18:11] <cestislife|work> MultiMC <3
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#1918 [18:14] <J3SS> What OS should I use for setting up a minecraft server?
#1919 [18:15] <sugoi> J3SS: completely up to you, mac/windows/linux, anything that'll run java really :)
#1920 [18:15] <sugoi> i use gentoo linux
#1921 [18:15] <J3SS> just wondering if I should just use something like CentOS or go for something tailormade like mineos+
#1922 [18:16] <sugoi> i personally find no value in other options
#1923 [18:17] <sugoi> i _guess_ mineos adds a couple admin features and packages it for you in a mod that pushes to http
#1924 [18:17] <sugoi> but then again, it's mineos, and not gentoo which i love
#1925 [18:17] <sugoi> personally, i recommend you use an os you are familiar with
#1926 [18:18] <J3SS> so ubuntu or CentOS then?
#1927 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> mineos is just a standard Linux distro with some shell scripts strapped to it
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#1929 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> I'd go with Debian/Ubunto or Gentoo before CentOS, but any distro will work, really
#1930 [18:18] <J3SS> I'm leaning more towards CentOS in that case then
#1931 [18:18] <J3SS> why?
#1932 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> Personal distaste for RPM-driven package management.
#1933 [18:19] <J3SS> ahh
#1934 [18:19] <J3SS> ok
#1935 [18:19] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: yes, we aren't disagreeing there, but i thought mineos also had an http service for scripts to your minecraft service
#1936 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> whatever you opt for, if it has a 'server' distribution (e. g. Ubuntu Server), go with that.
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#1938 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: if it does, it's jsut a PHP front-end for said scripts in all probability. something I could write up in my sleep.
#1939 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> 401 auth protection around a 'click here to restart the server' button, etc.
#1940 [18:20] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: agreed - yes
#1941 [18:20] <sugoi> again, we agree -- i'm just pointing this out for those looking for a nice bootstrap
#1942 [18:20] <sugoi> 'nice' :)
#1943 [18:21] <sugoi> J3SS: i do recommend you pick an os you are familiar with
#1944 [18:21] <sugoi> if you want to invest time into learning a linux distro, i recommend ubuntu
#1945 [18:21] <sugoi> solid stuff, great support
#1946 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> or if you _really_ want to learn, Gentoo
#1947 [18:21] <J3SS> I know ubuntu
#1948 [18:21] <sugoi> i also recommend gentoo for those that are a little crazy and love some pain and reward
#1949 [18:21] <Morrolan> Or if you really want something solid, Debian. :P
#1950 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> you get neck-deep in the nitty-gritty, and learn a lot
#1951 [18:22] <J3SS> better than I know CentOS
#1952 [18:22] <J3SS> so I'm leaning towards ubuntu now
#1953 [18:22] <sugoi> J3SS: then go with that, it's a good os
#1954 [18:22] <J3SS> yes
#1955 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan / sugoi: My very first distro was Slackware 2.0. Now _that_ was a learning experience.
#1956 [18:22] <sugoi> ha
#1957 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> back when the closest thing to package management was /bin/tar
#1958 [18:23] <sugoi> slackware, i think my first was ... suse
#1959 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> I don't think SuSE even existed at that point (:
#1960 [18:23] <sugoi> nope, i'm new to linux
#1961 [18:23] <sugoi> only started in linux work about 10 years ago
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#1963 [18:26] <J3SS> that's about 4 more years than I've been Knee deep in linux
#1964 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> the best way to learn is to faff about and break things, and learn how to fix 'em
#1965 [18:27] <Morrolan> And the most time-consuming way, too.
#1966 [18:27] <J3SS> Just had *another* eureka moment
#1967 [18:28] <J3SS> my biggest problem with Ubuntu is the change from Gnome to the new desktop
#1968 [18:28] <J3SS> which doesn't affect servers
#1969 [18:29] <sugoi> what does ubuntu use now?
#1970 [18:29] <Morrolan> Unity?
#1971 [18:29] <J3SS> that's the one
#1972 [18:30] <Kylan> does anyone know an alternative to ftb?
#1973 [18:30] <J3SS> I uninstalled Ubuntu after spending 3 weeks researching how to install my favorite game properly while allowing it to use my nvidia card instead of my intel
#1974 [18:30] <Lord_Ralex> Kylan, for what?
#1975 [18:30] <J3SS> wrote a tutorial and everything
#1976 [18:31] <Kylan> for installing mod packs
#1977 [18:31] <J3SS> couldn't use Unity
#1978 [18:31] <sugoi> Kylan: multimc
#1979 [18:31] <Morrolan> J3SS - Optimus setups are a PITA on Linux, yea.
#1980 [18:31] <sugoi> Kylan: and why not ftb?
#1981 [18:31] <J3SS> got it working though
#1982 [18:31] <Kylan> because i dont have an account i play offline for free
#1983 [18:31] <J3SS> minus sould which is a wine issue
#1984 [18:31] <Kylan> will multimc work?
#1985 [18:31] <Lutzee> No it wont, buy the game
#1986 [18:32] <Kylan> i would if i had any money :(
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#1988 [18:32] <J3SS> it's only £18
#1989 [18:32] <Lutzee> Save, you wont get any help from anyone without buying the game
#1990 [18:32] <sugoi> Kylan: all the options i would recommend require you buy the game
#1991 [18:32] <cestislife|work> im curious
#1992 [18:33] <cestislife|work> how did you get the offline files then
#1993 [18:33] <edungeon> If I bought the game and then uninstalled it later, how do I get the game back? I have my receipt number but there hasn't been any place to add it. Makes me think my user name has the info
#1994 [18:33] <Kylan> play the online demo
#1995 [18:33] <Lord_Ralex> cestislife|work, getting them is easy
#1996 [18:33] <Lord_Ralex> like that
#1997 [18:33] <cestislife|work> ah
#1998 [18:33] <kels> my computer is taking a long time to load mine craft why?
#1999 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> edungeon: just redownload the client and log in, simple as that.
#2000 [18:33] <Morrolan> edungeon - You grab the launcher from minecraft.net/download and enter username & password, and it'll then fetch the files for you.
#2001 [18:33] <J3SS> or just download a cracked version off of the obvious sites
#2002 [18:33] <Kylan> and its 27 dollars so i will soon but for now i cant
#2003 [18:33] <edungeon> no, it won't work
#2004 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> edungeon: go here: http://account.mojang.com/
#2005 [18:34] <Lord_Ralex> define not work
#2006 [18:34] <cestislife|work> Out of memory issue.
#2007 [18:34] <Morrolan> Oh, hey, it's past twelve. *woosh*
#2008 [18:34] <cestislife|work> Didnt the batch file work, edungeon?
#2009 [18:34] <J3SS> not for me
#2010 [18:34] <cestislife|work> You run that instead of the minecraft.exe
#2011 [18:34] <Lord_Ralex> kels, computer specs
#2012 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> ??+ mc.net/migration|https://account.mojang.com/migrate
#2013 [18:35] <Lord_Ralex> .-.
#2014 [18:35] <cestislife|work> yay new entry
#2015 [18:35] <Lord_Ralex> DopeGhoti, is there is updated list of those?
#2016 [18:36] <cestislife|work> ?? index
#2017 [18:36] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#2018 [18:36] <Lord_Ralex> that works >_>
#2019 [18:37] <cestislife|work> though it doesnt have that mew entry yet
#2020 [18:37] <edungeon> No it didn't work and I'm trying to understand if the program is really on this computer or not. I don't think so.
#2021 [18:37] <cestislife|work> Windows yes?
#2022 [18:38] <edungeon> I run the run.bat instead of minecraft.exe
#2023 [18:38] <cestislife|work> ??> edungeon win/.minecraft
#2024 [18:38] <VoxelHead> edungeon: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
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#2026 [18:38] <Lord_Ralex> does VoxelHead accept queries?
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#2028 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> Lord_Ralex: it does, and if you wanted to test or browse the FAQs, there is also ##VoxelHead.
#2029 [18:39] <edungeon> I'm confused. Sorry
#2030 [18:39] <Lord_Ralex> just wanted to see what a few of these showed really, and was making sure to avoid useless spam :P
#2031 [18:40] <edungeon> Where do I do this: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#2032 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> Lord_Ralex: it's appreciated.
#2033 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> edungeon: on your computer.
#2034 [18:40] <cestislife|work> Win is the Windows key on your keyboard.
#2035 [18:41] <cestislife|work> It looks like a flag.
#2036 [18:41] <HiHeyWhatsUp> hey, um im new so i dont know much, but everytime i try to log into minecraft the game crashes
#2037 [18:41] <cestislife|work> Press that, hold then press R
#2038 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> HiHeyWhatsUp: with what error message(s)?
#2039 [18:41] <cestislife|work> HiHeyWhatsUp, crash log please? Paste it on pastebin.com
#2040 [18:43] <edungeon> Windows cannot find the file: win/.minecraft
#2041 [18:43] <cestislife|work> You don't find win/.minecraft
#2042 [18:43] <cestislife|work> You type in
#2043 [18:43] <cestislife|work> %AppData%\.minecraft
#2044 [18:44] <edungeon> okay. that brought up a folder with items in it, but no exe for minecraft. should there be an exe
#2045 [18:44] <cestislife|work> There shouldn't/
#2046 [18:45] <cestislife|work> exe is only the launcher
#2047 [18:45] <cestislife|work> Minecraft is a game based on Java.
#2048 [18:45] <cestislife|work> If there are files in .minecraft, it means the game is installed.
#2049 [18:45] <cestislife|work> It does not tamper with registry, so you cannot simply "uninstall" it.
#2050 [18:46] <edungeon> oh. so that means it all goes back to the memory thing. Should I put the run.bat in this folder in stead of where minecraft.exe is?
#2051 [18:46] <cestislife|work> Where the minecraft.exe is.
#2052 [18:46] <edungeon> then I give up
#2053 [18:46] <cestislife|work> You said you only had 1GB of RAM.
#2054 [18:46] <edungeon> right
#2055 [18:47] <cestislife|work> Minecraft is very resource intensive.
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#2057 [18:47] <cestislife|work> If it worked last time, it might be before the 1.3.2 introduction of LAN support.
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#2060 [18:48] <edungeon> I understand. What I don't understand is there was not a problem before it was uninstalled. It worked perfectly.
#2061 [18:48] <totalu> running slow on windows 8
#2062 [18:48] <cestislife|work> totalu, is expected. Update your drivers if you have not.
#2063 [18:48] <totalu> how do i update driver? please
#2064 [18:49] <totalu> im experiencing lots of lag on a new pc laptop running windows 8
#2065 [18:49] <cestislife|work> edungeon, define uninstall? Minecraft only puts in files that enable it to run. If you mean tech has deleted that, then I don't think so as the files are still there, are they not?
#2066 [18:50] <cestislife|work> totalu, are you on a 64 bit system?
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#2068 [18:51] <edungeon> Yes, I guess either we've proven they're still there, or I re-downloaded. When this computer was infected with a virus/adware the tech went through and uninstalled stuff
#2069 [18:51] <totalu> im sorry but I am kid and dont know if i am 64bit...
#2070 [18:52] <cestislife|work> Let's start over edungeon, what happens if you run minecraft normally without the batch file?
#2071 [18:53] <Ely|afk> totalu, let's try a few things t increase that fps
#2072 [18:53] <Elystus> As cestislife|work suggested we should probably update your drivers
#2073 [18:53] <Elystus> ??> totalu wind/dxdiag
#2074 [18:53] <Elystus> ??> totalu win/dxdiag
#2075 [18:53] <VoxelHead> totalu: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2076 [18:53] <VoxelHead> totalu: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2077 [18:54] <edungeon> It gets to the window where you choose a presaved world and says it's loading the background (I think) then after a few more seconds it comes back with the MineCraft is out of memory error.
#2078 [18:54] <cestislife|work> Wait, what?
#2079 [18:54] <edungeon> what, what?
#2080 [18:54] <cestislife|work> So you login the launcher, and it runs up minecraft fine?
#2081 [18:55] <edungeon> yes, until gets to the loading the world
#2082 [18:55] <cestislife|work> Can you try creating a new world?
#2083 [18:55] <edungeon> Did that
#2084 [18:55] <J3SS> did it load?
#2085 [18:56] <edungeon> the same as above
#2086 [18:56] <totalu> ok... working on it now
#2087 [18:56] <totalu> thanks
#2088 [18:56] <cestislife|work> edungeon, let's try the batch file again
#2089 [18:56] <cestislife|work> Right click on it and click Edit.
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#2091 [18:57] <edungeon> k
#2092 [18:58] <totalu> http://pastebin.com/PTuUMZcp
#2093 [18:58] <cestislife|work> I want you to change the 500 and 1000 to 512 both.
#2094 [18:59] <edungeon> done
#2095 [18:59] <cestislife|work> Yes you are using 64 bit Windows totalu.
#2096 [18:59] <cestislife|work> edungeon, save then run the batch file.
#2097 [18:59] <Elystus> totalu, for future reference. You have a 64 bit operating system
#2098 [18:59] <totalu> voxe1head did i do that right?
#2099 [18:59] <Elystus> totalu, install these drivers: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_win8-64.aspx
#2100 [19:00] <cestislife|work> Another future reference, VoxelHead is a bot.
#2101 [19:00] <Elystus> totalu, voxelhead is a bot.
#2102 [19:00] <HiHeyWhatsUp> DopeGhoti, the crash report says it could not create context
#2103 [19:00] * Elystus got ninja'd
#2103 [19:00] <cestislife|work> lul
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#2105 [19:00] <J3SS> I have a question for you all, can I install teamspeak and minecraft on the same server?
#2106 [19:00] <totalu> thank you very much for helping me out!!!
#2107 [19:00] * cestislife|work was just being focused
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#2108 [19:00] <edungeon> what do you mean..run the batch file?
#2109 [19:00] <cestislife|work> the run.bat
#2110 [19:00] <cestislife|work> Run it.
#2111 [19:00] <Elystus> totalu, we can do a few other things after you have finished installing those drivers.
#2112 [19:01] <edungeon> gotcha
#2113 [19:02] <edungeon> I think it's working....thank you very much.
#2114 [19:02] * Elystus o/\o cestislife|work
#2114 [19:02] * cestislife|work o/\o Elystus
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#2116 [19:05] <Skylobos> Hello?
#2117 [19:05] <Elystus> Hello Skylobos
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#2119 [19:06] <Skylobos> hey, i have a premium account on minecraft and when i download the .exe and try to log in to download the game i get login failed
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#2122 [19:09] <Skylobos> do you have any idea what the problem could be?
#2123 [19:09] <Lutzee> One or both of your credentials is incorrect
#2124 [19:09] <Skylobos> i am logged in on the minecraft website
#2125 [19:11] <NinjaKirby> Are special characters in Login names still an issue these days?
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#2128 [19:13] <perry> What do you do when you log into the game and it says minecraft has crashed?
#2129 [19:13] <Lutzee> NinjaKirby: er, not sure, it was the windows username issue
#2130 [19:14] <Skylobos> i dont understand why it will let me into the minecraft site, also the mojang website, but not the launcher
#2131 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> Oh, enlightening.
#2132 [19:14] <Lutzee> Skylobos: You are putting your info in wrong, thats the only way you can get a login failed message
#2133 [19:14] <Skylobos> how could it be wrong
#2134 [19:14] <Lutzee> perry: do you get a crash log? if so please paste it on pastebin
#2135 [19:14] <Lutzee> ?? pastebin
#2136 [19:14] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2137 [19:14] <Skylobos> its the same info you use for the websites
#2138 [19:15] <Skylobos> if it works on the website, it should work on the launcher
#2139 [19:15] <Lutzee> Skylobos: You put it in wrong?
#2140 [19:15] <perry> ill paste it
#2141 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> Skylobos: when logging into minecraft, clear out both the email and password fields, and retype them both. Be sure to use your email address, and not your Minecraft username.
#2142 [19:15] <perry> one moment
#2143 [19:17] <perry> http://pastebin.com/juGZU2RE
#2144 [19:18] <Skylobos> i tried that and it still says login failed
#2145 [19:18] <HiHeyWhatsUp> http://pastebin.com/29T2fXUB
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#2147 [19:19] <Lutzee> ??> HiHeyWhatsUp forceupdate
#2148 [19:19] <VoxelHead> HiHeyWhatsUp: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2149 [19:19] <VoxelHead> HiHeyWhatsUp: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2150 [19:19] <Lutzee> perry: er you do the same ^
#2151 [19:19] <HiHeyWhatsUp> I already did that
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#2153 [19:20] <Lutzee> then try
#2154 [19:20] <Lutzee> ?? win/reinst
#2155 [19:20] <perry> trying it now
#2156 [19:20] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2157 [19:20] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2158 [19:21] <Sir_Tragic> I'am unable to create a minecraft user name to play online. can anyone help?
#2159 [19:22] <Skylobos> the login information for the launcher should be the same as the info for the site right?
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#2161 [19:22] <Lutzee> Skylobos: yes
#2162 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> Sir_Tragic: what happens when you try?
#2163 [19:22] <Skylobos> then this makes no logical sense
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#2165 [19:22] <Skylobos> and i am baffled
#2166 [19:22] <perry> i got mine to work
#2167 [19:22] <perry> thanks everyone
#2168 [19:22] <perry> thanks everyone
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#2170 [19:23] <Sir_Tragic> well. when i try to resister a minecraft account on minecraft.net, i am redirected to mojang.com. i already have a mojang account and it does nto ask me to make ausername
#2171 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> Sir_Tragic: when you go to https://account.mojang.com/me, is 'Minecraft' listed under 'My Games'?
#2172 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> Skylobos: I'd ask the same question of you actually
#2173 [19:24] <Skylobos> yes it is listed
#2174 [19:24] <Sir_Tragic> it is nto listed for me
#2175 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> ??> Sir_Tragic mc.net/migrate
#2176 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> ??> Sir_Tragic mc.net/migration
#2177 [19:25] <VoxelHead> Sir_Tragic: (mc.net/migration) https://account.mojang.com/migrate
#2178 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> Sir_Tragic: go there
#2179 [19:26] <Sir_Tragic> it is asking me for a username but i do not have one
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#2181 [19:28] <Skylobos> maybe the game doesnt want me to play it
#2182 [19:28] <Skylobos> and i should go play terraria instead :/
#2183 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> Sir_Tragic: when did you purchase the game?
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#2185 [19:29] <Sir_Tragic> Saturday night i believe
#2186 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> Skylobos: I don't know what to say. You have the game listed on your account page. Literally the only thing that I'm aware of that will cause a 'bad login' message is either the email address or password being incorrect when logging in
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#2190 [19:29] <Skylobos> i dont know why the launcher would say login failed but i can log into both sites
#2191 [19:30] <Skylobos> its apparently something wrong with the launcher
#2192 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> Sir_Tragic: can you confirm that the monies have been debited from your account which you used to purchase the game?
#2193 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> Skylobos: well, you can try deleting and redownloading the launcher
#2194 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> ??> Skylobos win/client
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#2196 [19:30] <VoxelHead> Skylobos: (win/client) https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
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#2198 [19:32] <Sir_Tragic> i have tried deleting and redownloading the launcher, and i can confirm the money has been taken out of my account little bit later on
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#2201 [19:32] <Skylobos> same here
#2202 [19:32] <Skylobos> didnt work :/
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#2204 [19:33] <Skylobos> should there be nothing inside the .minecraft folder?
#2205 [19:33] <Lord> Hi, my cant isnt working. at all. i cant even bring it up or see is when people are talking. could anyone help me please?
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#2207 [19:35] <Sir_Tragic> it is nto the launcher that is nto working, it is that i cannot make a usename to use in the launcher
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#2209 [19:35] <Tarax3n> My friends multiplayer chat is not working at all, he presses the chat button but nothing shows up. Also he cannot see multiplayer chat at all.
#2210 [19:35] <Tarax3n> My friends multiplayer chat is not working at all, he presses the chat button but nothing shows up. Also he cannot see multiplayer chat at all.
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#2212 [19:36] <J3SS> what do you mean by cant?
#2213 [19:36] <Tarax3n> what lord means is that the chat won't show up at all
#2214 [19:36] <J3SS> Sir_Tragic have you tried using your email in the launcher?
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#2216 [19:37] <Tarax3n> or work for that matter
#2217 [19:37] <Sir_Tragic> i have as well as my mojang password. it says login failed
#2218 [19:38] <Lord> i use my email to log in all the time. its in game. chat does not show up for me. i have tried changing key binds for it
#2219 [19:38] <Skylobos> does anyone know if the .minecraft folder is supposed to be empty, or is it not downloading the right thing when i dl that minecraft.exe
#2220 [19:38] <Skylobos> ??
#2221 [19:38] <J3SS> it shouldn't be empty
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#2223 [19:39] <Skylobos> well thats my problem then
#2224 [19:40] <Skylobos> i guess ill try a different browser or something
#2225 [19:40] * Disori|off is now known as Disori
#2226 [19:41] <Bugboy1028> ??> scold/pm Tarax3n
#2227 [19:41] <Bugboy1028> ??> Tarax3n scold/pm
#2228 [19:41] <VoxelHead> Tarax3n: (scold/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
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#2230 [19:42] <Andrio> Tarax3n, try pressing F1
#2231 [19:42] <Andy_> hey i just downloaded a mod for my computer and an error occured
#2232 [19:43] <Lutzee> ??> Andy_ mods
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#2234 [19:43] <VoxelHead> Andy_: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2235 [19:43] <VoxelHead> Andy_: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#2237 [19:43] <Lutzee> ??> Andy_ forceupdate
#2238 [19:43] <VoxelHead> Andy_: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2239 [19:43] <VoxelHead> Andy_: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2240 [19:43] <Bugboy1028> ??> Tarax3n scold/pm
#2241 [19:43] <VoxelHead> Tarax3n: (scold/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#2242 [19:43] <Skylobos> its still empty when i download it with chrome
#2243 [19:43] <Skylobos> its still empty when i download it with chrome
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#2246 [19:44] <J3SS> it shouldn't be
#2247 [19:44] <skullz> For some reason when I start up the server it goes into full screen mode freezes and crashes.....
#2248 [19:44] <J3SS> have you tried disabling anti virus?
#2249 [19:45] <J3SS> skyloobs
#2250 [19:45] <Skylobos> ill try that
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#2252 [19:46] <J3SS> and firewall
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#2254 [19:46] <skullz> However it worked fine until I hit the full screen button, now it just doesn't work at all any suggestions???
#2255 [19:47] <Lutzee> ??> skullz win/.minecraft
#2256 [19:47] <VoxelHead> skullz: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#2257 [19:47] <Lutzee> skullz: go there and delete the options file ^
#2258 [19:47] <skullz> ok
#2259 [19:48] <Skylobos> nope still the same
#2260 [19:48] <Skylobos> -,-
#2261 [19:49] <Skylobos> i looked it up and there should be a .jar file apparently
#2262 [19:49] <Skylobos> or maybe this has nothing to do with the login failed
#2263 [19:49] <J3SS> there should be several files and folders to my knowledge
#2264 [19:49] <Skylobos> and im just screwed
#2265 [19:49] <Skylobos> it probably installs that after you log in
#2266 [19:49] <J3SS> have you tried doing a force update?
#2267 [19:49] <Skylobos> several times
#2268 [19:49] <Skylobos> maybe it locked me out?
#2269 [19:50] <J3SS> also, have you checked your hosts file?
#2270 [19:50] <Skylobos> how do i do that
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#2272 [19:50] <J3SS> go to C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc
#2273 [19:51] <J3SS> there should be a file in there called hosts
#2274 [19:51] <J3SS> right click then go to open with
#2275 [19:51] <J3SS> select notepad
#2276 [19:51] <Lutzee> ?? win/hosts
#2277 [19:51] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2278 [19:51] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
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#2280 [19:52] <J3SS> there shouldn't be anything in there below #127.0.0.1 x.acme.com (I think that's the line)
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#2282 [19:52] <Skylobos> # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp. # # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows. # # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name. # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one # space. # # Additionally, commen
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#2284 [19:52] <J3SS> go to pastebin.com and paste it there
#2285 [19:53] <Skylobos> are you sure thats the right one? it says its a sample
#2286 [19:53] <J3SS> yes that is the right one
#2287 [19:54] <Sir_Tragic> is there any way i can create a minecraft account?
#2288 [19:54] <Sir_Tragic> not a mojang account
#2289 [19:54] <J3SS> give me 2 hours
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#2291 [19:54] <J3SS> and I'll have a solution for you
#2292 [19:55] <Skylobos> # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp. # # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows. # # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name. # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
#2293 [19:55] <J3SS> but we'll leave that until later
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#2295 [19:55] <Lutzee> ??> Skylobos pastebin
#2296 [19:55] <VoxelHead> Skylobos: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2297 [19:55] <Lutzee> Sir_Tragic: no there is not
#2298 [19:55] <Skylobos> oh -,- lol
#2299 [19:56] <Reaver75> I have been trying to add the Devine RPG Mod to my sons MineCraft all day. I almost got it working but it will not take all the way. I need so much help to get this mod added for him...
#2300 [19:56] <Skylobos> http://pastebin.com/3cxCL3hR
#2301 [19:56] <Lutzee> ??> Reaver75 mods
#2302 [19:56] <VoxelHead> Reaver75: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2303 [19:56] <VoxelHead> Reaver75: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2304 [19:56] <Sir_Tragic> then how am i to log into the minecraft launcher so i may play online
#2305 [19:56] <Reaver75> thank you
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#2307 [19:56] <Lutzee> Sir_Tragic: make a mojang account, buy the game, choose a username, login and play
#2308 [19:57] <J3SS> Lutzee have you queried his auth details?
#2309 [19:57] <Sir_Tragic> i have made a mojang account, i have bought the game. i am currently unable to make a username. if you can direct me how , it would be most appreciated.
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#2311 [19:59] <Sir_Tragic> it has been over a week since i have bought the game to play with my friends, i am a little frustrated.
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#2313 [19:59] <Skylobos> have you migrated the account to minecraft.net sir
#2314 [19:59] <Lutzee> Sir_Tragic: log in to your mojang account go to you account page https://account.mojang.com/me and it should have a choose a username button under profile name for minecraft
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#2316 [20:00] <J3SS> Sir_Tragic, what email did you use for your mojang account?
#2317 [20:00] <J3SS> doesn't matter
#2318 [20:01] <J3SS> that's what I get for being in 2 IRC channels at the same time
#2319 [20:01] <Skylobos> why does minecraft have to have all this logging in anyway
#2320 [20:01] <Skylobos> if im logged into the site why do i need to log into the launcher
#2321 [20:01] <J3SS> I end up with half assed posts
#2322 [20:01] <J3SS> Skylobos check your PMs
#2323 [20:01] <Lutzee> J3SS: only 2? http://puu.sh/1JbC8
#2324 [20:02] <J3SS> yuwut
#2325 [20:02] <J3SS> no
#2326 [20:02] <J3SS> way
#2327 [20:02] <J3SS> I couldn't handle that many
#2328 [20:02] <Sir_Tragic> there is no choose username button or even a profile name for minecraft
#2329 [20:02] <Lutzee> Sir_Tragic: what do you see next to minecraft?
#2330 [20:04] <Sir_Tragic> i dont even see minecraft. under the "my games secion" it just tells me about importing a existing profile to mojang, and under that is a redeem code section
#2331 [20:04] <Lutzee> Ah...
#2332 [20:05] <Lutzee> Sir_Tragic: can you confirm that your bank account has been debited for the purchase?
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#2335 [20:07] <Sir_Tragic> not at the moment but i can later tonight. if it helps, i am able to play the game offline
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#2341 [20:20] <lia> Um, every time i try to run minecraft it's login page pops up but then when i log in it just turns black. you will see a blink of the loading page but then it is just black
#2342 [20:22] <Skylobos> thanks for the help guys, i made a dumb mistake
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#2345 [20:28] <lia> ...
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#2351 [20:30] <boslaw> need help logging in for the first time
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#2353 [20:31] <bassett58> game keeps freezing and running out of memory. created the minecraft.bat in notepad and saved at all file types and saved with minecraft launcher. tried to launch and it was unsuccessful, anyh reason why?
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#2356 [20:32] <paul> unable to download game for my son. I have disabled all antivirus and logged out of firewall but still getting screen saying it wont download. help!
#2357 [20:33] <nlm13983> have not gotten a verification email been trying since xmas. I go to the site and resend the email everyday but never get it
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#2359 [20:33] <paul> I have received an email - set up gaming name
#2360 [20:33] <boslaw> anyone know how to log in to the client??? Using my mojang email & password doesn't work. Using my profile name with mojang password doesn't work
#2361 [20:34] <bassett58> why does the game keep freezing? tried the new launcher with no success
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#2363 [20:34] <Jdembo|Max> Bassett, does it give you a crash report?
#2364 [20:34] <J3SS> hold on
#2365 [20:35] <J3SS> doesn't matter
#2366 [20:35] <bassett58> no
#2367 [20:35] <Jdembo|Max> Try updating your drivers/Java/LWJGL
#2368 [20:35] <bassett58> everything is updated, had to in order to download the game
#2369 [20:36] <Jdembo|Max> hm
#2370 [20:36] <bassett58> i created the new launcher but when i open it, it doesn't open
#2371 [20:36] <bassett58> i can still open the game through the original launch
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#2373 [20:37] <boslaw> can anyone help me start this stupid game????? 1. created mojang acct. 2. created profile name. 3. tried to login but I get failure message every time
#2374 [20:38] <sugoi> boslaw: what is profile name you chose?
#2375 [20:38] <boslaw> pickletrees2003
#2376 [20:38] <J3SS> try using your email for your mojang acc without the @ part and remove everything after the @
#2377 [20:39] <Lutzee> J3SS: you need the entire email to log in
#2378 [20:39] <boslaw> logine failed
#2379 [20:39] <J3SS> IIRC that's what worked for Skylobos
#2380 [20:39] <sugoi> !paid pickletrees2003
#2381 [20:39] <boslaw> tried without the @ & domain. Still failed
#2382 [20:40] <sugoi> boslaw: disable antivirus and firewall, try again
#2383 [20:40] <boslaw> yes, pickletrees has paid but still can't login
#2384 [20:40] <boslaw> what ports need to be open in firewall?
#2385 [20:40] <Lutzee> boslaw: shouldn't matter, minecraft uses HTTP to authenticate
#2386 [20:40] <boslaw> I don't have antivirus - running on a mac
#2387 [20:40] <Lutzee> without HTTP you wouldnt be here
#2388 [20:40] <sugoi> boslaw: it is java that is blocked typically
#2389 [20:40] <boslaw> firewall is on my router
#2390 [20:41] <paul> I am in the same boat as boslaw. Login name is shopvilletigers23
#2391 [20:41] <boslaw> nothing is blocked outbound
#2392 [20:41] <sugoi> !apid shopvilletigers23
#2393 [20:41] <sugoi> !paid shopvilletigers23
#2394 [20:41] <sugoi> :)
#2395 [20:41] <sugoi> not exactly the same boat :)
#2396 [20:41] <Lutzee> If you have bought the game recently you should be using your full email address to log into the game
#2397 [20:41] <sugoi> boslaw: can you play in browser?
#2398 [20:41] <boslaw> how do I play in browser?
#2399 [20:42] <bassett58> ok, i just found 3 crash reports, what do you need from the report in order to help me figure this out?
#2400 [20:42] <Lutzee> boslaw: minecraft.net/play
#2401 [20:42] <boslaw> trying now
#2402 [20:42] <boslaw> crashed in the browser
#2403 [20:42] <Lutzee> bassett58: work out which is most recent, then copy the entire log onto pastebin.com press submit then copy the link you get in the addess bar back here
#2404 [20:43] <paul> I have received the email saying it has been paid - shopvilletigers23
#2405 [20:43] <J3SS> boslaw uninstall java and re-install
#2406 [20:43] <sugoi> paul: what site did you buy from?
#2407 [20:43] <Lutzee> paul: only an email containing a TransactionID is confirmation of payment
#2408 [20:43] <sugoi> and that
#2409 [20:43] <paul> minecraft.net
#2410 [20:43] <boslaw> how do I uninstall java on a mac?
#2411 [20:44] <Bugboy1028> !paid shopvilletigers23
#2412 [20:44] <paul> have the transaction ID.
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#2414 [20:45] <boslaw> cannot login/play in browser either
#2415 [20:45] <Lutzee> paul: What do you see on https://account.mojang.com/me/ do you see minecraft and a date bought and your profile name as shopvilletigers23
#2416 [20:45] <paul> I have the transaction ID from Mojang. Transaction ID is from moneybookers
#2417 [20:46] <bassett58> copy - Lutzee http://pastebin.com/NyVbXbq2
#2418 [20:46] <Lutzee> bassett58: er
#2419 [20:46] <Lutzee> Oh out of memory..
#2420 [20:46] <bassett58> copy
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#2422 [20:46] <paul> date of January 4 minecraft
#2423 [20:46] <Lutzee> bassett58: how much ram is in your PC?
#2424 [20:47] <Lutzee> paul: is shopvilletigers23 listed as the profile name?
#2425 [20:47] <bassett58> its on a laptop and it has 195 gb
#2426 [20:47] <paul> my mistake the name is shopvilletiger23 - no s
#2427 [20:48] <bassett58> i tried the minecraft.bat launch but no success
#2428 [20:48] <Lutzee> bassett58: Er that isn't ram..
#2429 [20:48] <Lutzee> Thats your HDD storage..
#2430 [20:48] <Lutzee> ??> bassett58 win/dxdiag
#2431 [20:48] <VoxelHead> bassett58: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2432 [20:48] <bassett58> lol, not computer savy
#2433 [20:48] <VoxelHead> bassett58: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2435 [20:50] <paul> Did I loose you Lutzee
#2436 [20:51] <YnotL> Hii
#2437 [20:51] <Lutzee> !paid shopvilletiger23
#2438 [20:51] <Lutzee> Okay that is better
#2439 [20:51] <YnotL> i got a issue logining in.
#2440 [20:51] <Lutzee> YnotL: What is the problem exactly?
#2441 [20:51] <Lutzee> paul: You are using your email to log into the launcher right?
#2442 [20:51] <bassett58> sorry lutzee, how do i locate how much memory i have?
#2443 [20:52] <Lutzee> bassett58: follow VoxelHeads instructions
#2444 [20:52] <paul> correct. I can't get the download to work. The exe file will not save nor run
#2445 [20:53] <Lutzee> paul: Using internet explorer? If so a better browser should help, such as chrome or firefox
#2446 [20:53] <boslaw> any idea what else I can do? Tried another computer - same problem. I bought the game tonight for my son for his birthday - he's not happy that he can't play it
#2447 [20:53] <paul> Yes using internet explorer.
#2448 [20:54] <YnotL> when i login to minecraft there is a popup saying something like this: "New update available" "Yes" or "Not Now"
#2449 [20:54] <Lutzee> boslaw: using email to log in?
#2450 [20:54] <paul> I have to use IE because of work.
#2451 [20:54] <boslaw> yes
#2452 [20:54] <Lutzee> YnotL: okay.. well pressing yes will update you to the latest version
#2453 [20:55] <boslaw> I can play offline, but he wants to play online (which is the whole reason why I bought the game)
#2454 [20:55] <YnotL> After that i either click update then it starts to update for like 16% then stop and says: "Failed to Update"
#2455 [20:55] <Lutzee> boslaw: Okay what error do you get, login failed, cannot connect to minecraft.net?
#2456 [20:56] <boslaw> login failed
#2457 [20:56] <Lutzee> YnotL: something is blocking the download, what antivirus do you have?
#2458 [20:56] <boslaw> none
#2459 [20:56] <Lutzee> boslaw: Well, either you typed your email wrong or your password wrong
#2460 [20:56] <bassett58> Voxelhead, not sure what IRC channel is but here is the link http://pastebin.com/yPKfr2Eq
#2461 [20:56] <boslaw> I'm on a brand new mac. Both have been typed and re-typed correctly on 2 different computers.
#2462 [20:57] <Lutzee> bassett58: this is the IRC channel and VoxelHead is a bot
#2463 [20:57] <boslaw> I also reset my password and tried the new one - same problem
#2464 [20:57] <bassett58> lol, ok Lutzee thanks
#2465 [20:57] <Lutzee> bassett58: okay. should be enough, try running the game and only the game, leave nothing else running
#2466 [20:57] <bassett58> copy
#2467 [20:58] <YnotL> im not sure?
#2468 [20:58] <YnotL> i dont think there is at the moment.
#2469 [20:59] <YnotL> hello?
#2470 [21:00] <boslaw> Is there telephone support for this game?
#2471 [21:00] <Bugboy1028> ??> patient YnotL
#2472 [21:00] <Bugboy1028> ??> ynotl patient
#2473 [21:00] <Lutzee> YnotL: Er, not sure AVG, norton, mcafee, ESET, avast, MSE any of them sound familiar?
#2474 [21:00] <YnotL> haha ok just checking.
#2475 [21:00] <Moose> what's the url for minecraft skins?
#2476 [21:01] <bassett58> my son was telling me that it doesn't always freeze right away. He doesn't have anything open when hes playing the game.
#2477 [21:01] <Lutzee> boslaw: there is not, if you have your transaction ID you can submit a support request to http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2478 [21:03] <boslaw> I have to wait for people to get back to me via email?? Is this 2002? I bought a game. I can login to my account via the mojang website. Everything looks correct in my account page. Yet, when I try to actually play the game, my login fails every time. Is there some kind of log file I can check to see why there's a failure?
#2479 [21:03] <paul> I am logged in under Shopvilletiger23 and still cannot get this download. I keep getting a refusal of the download.
#2480 [21:03] <bassett58> when he is playing, it is in offline mode. would that make a difference?
#2481 [21:04] <Lutzee> boslaw: No, but Mojang is a small company and cannot facilitate the staff for a 24 hour phoen support line
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#2483 [21:04] <Lutzee> bassett58: shouldn't, if he is using a texture pack it may cause instablilty if it is of a high resolution
#2484 [21:05] <bassett58> what is a texture pack?
#2485 [21:05] <Lutzee> bassett58: It a set of graphics to change how the game looks
#2486 [21:06] <bassett58> copy and no we don't have that
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#2488 [21:06] <Moose> what's the url for minecraft skins?
#2489 [21:07] <bassett58> sometimes when it would freeze it wouldn't say anything about memory. or does it not have to?
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#2492 [21:07] <Lutzee> Moose: er one minute
#2493 [21:07] <Lutzee> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/<playername>.png
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#2495 [21:07] <Moose> thanks you!
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#2497 [21:08] <Moose> oh my god Epiphany is worst browser ever
#2498 [21:08] <Moose> it's worst than IE.
#2499 [21:09] <cestislife> I've not heard of it at all.
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#2501 [21:09] <Moose> default browser installed when you install debian squeeze.
#2502 [21:10] <paul> Lutzee - so are you saying that I have to have this firefox or chrome browser so my kid can play this game?
#2503 [21:11] <Lutzee> paul: I'm saying that internet explorer is a bad browser, and a better browser might help the situation
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#2505 [21:11] <paul> Can customer support email me the exe file?
#2506 [21:12] <J3SS> paul trust me, Internet Explorer is bad no matter what way you put it
#2507 [21:12] <Lutzee> paul: er unlikely, but as the launcher is publicly available, i can host a mirror i guess
#2508 [21:13] <paul> Understood but for what I do for a living, I have to have it to access my company's server.
#2509 [21:13] <Lutzee> paul: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/Minecraft.exe or a zipped file containing it https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/Minecraft.zip
#2510 [21:13] <Lutzee> paul: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/Minecraft.exe or a zipped file containing it https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/Minecraft.zip
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#2512 [21:14] <paul> Neither file will download, getting same error
#2513 [21:14] <bassett58> so far so good, thanks for your help Lutzee!
#2514 [21:14] <cestislife> What error, paul?
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#2516 [21:16] <paul> I get a screen asking if I want to save the file. I say save and I then told it won't download.
#2517 [21:16] <cestislife> I would advise trying another browser to download the file.
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#2519 [21:16] <paul> Super. Will try to find another browser. Thanks --
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#2521 [21:17] <J3SS> He seemed rather
#2522 [21:17] <J3SS> uhmmm
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#2524 [21:17] <cestislife> Annoyed.
#2525 [21:17] <J3SS> frosty?
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#2529 [21:19] <J3SS> I'm guessing he didn't get the answer he wanted
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#2531 [21:19] <cestislife> The answer you want isn't necessarily the answer you need.
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#2533 [21:20] <johnny> i keep getting the same error
#2534 [21:20] <cestislife> Define error.
#2535 [21:21] <johnny> the one that says to many redention tries
#2536 [21:21] <johnny> redemtion sorry
#2537 [21:21] <cestislife> You mean Redemption Tires?
#2538 [21:22] <johnny> yes
#2539 [21:22] <cestislife> tries*
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#2541 [21:22] <cestislife> Erm, wrong code?
#2542 [21:22] <cestislife> You need to wait a few hours for that to reset though
#2543 [21:22] <cestislife> Since you've surpassed the limit for tries available.
#2544 [21:23] <johnny> i don't even know what redemtion code it is talking about/
#2545 [21:24] <cestislife> What exactly are you tryin to do johnny
#2546 [21:24] <johnny> make my account
#2547 [21:25] <cestislife> Then it means you've entered the wrong code too many times and has locked you out of account creation for a few hours.
#2548 [21:25] <cestislife> Make sure all letters of the code is exactly the same when trying to redeem minecraft.
#2549 [21:26] <johnny> I am not trying to redeem anything
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#2551 [21:28] <johnny> i bought minecraft and i need help making my profile
#2552 [21:29] <johnny> so i get no reply?
#2553 [21:30] <johnny> HELP
#2554 [21:30] <johnny> HELP
#2555 [21:30] <johnny> HELP'
#2556 [21:30] <johnny> HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
#2557 [21:30] <J3SS> no
#2558 [21:30] <j_> sry i got no clue dude
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#2562 [21:32] <Guest35792> I just bought minecraft and i do not know how to make a username
#2563 [21:32] <cestislife> Have you created a mojang account?
#2564 [21:32] <cestislife> accounts.mojang.com
#2565 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Guest35792 == johnny.
#2566 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> So apparently yes.
#2567 [21:33] <Guest35792> yes i have
#2568 [21:33] <Guest35792> you do not have to be rude
#2569 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> You didn't need to spam
#2570 [21:34] <cestislife> Should add wheaton's law to the notice
#2571 [21:34] <j_> i am trying to use the demo mode and it loads the java sign forever then it says err then it reloads then the same thing overand over again... how do i fix it?
#2572 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> You create a minecraft username by going to your mojang.com account and clicking on the Create Minecraft profile link there, provided you paid for a minecraft account
#2573 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> j_ - What operating system, and what browser?
#2574 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Also, what error message?
#2575 [21:36] <j_> huh
#2576 [21:36] <cestislife> .
#2577 [21:36] <cestislife> j_, are you on Windows, Mac, or Linux?
#2578 [21:36] <j_> oh well internet explorer, windows and idk
#2579 [21:36] <cestislife> IE.
#2580 [21:36] <cestislife> ..
#2581 [21:37] <cestislife> j_, can you try loading the demo with either Firefox or Chrome?
#2582 [21:37] <j_> neither
#2583 [21:37] <cestislife> Im asking you to do that~
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#2585 [21:37] <j_> oh... i think i can...
#2586 [21:38] <Jon> i need help creating a minecraft profile
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#2588 [21:38] <cestislife> johnny, we told you how.
#2589 [21:38] <Guest38777> i have already
#2590 [21:38] <cestislife> You create a minecraft username by going to your mojang.com account and clicking on the Create Minecraft profile link there, provided you paid for a minecraft account
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#2592 [21:39] <j_> ugh
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#2595 [21:42] <j_> brb
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#2598 [21:44] <bob> can't login to new account
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#2600 [21:45] <bob> login to mojang.com works fine. login to the client and minecraft.net/play doesn't work
#2601 [21:45] <cestislife> You'd have to be more specific than that bob.
#2602 [21:45] <bob> using the email address in both cases
#2603 [21:45] <cestislife> Define doesn't work?
#2604 [21:45] <bob> I get login failed
#2605 [21:45] <bob> sometimes I get login failed not downloaded
#2606 [21:45] <bob> on a mac
#2607 [21:45] <staveros> purchased MC today for my daughter. site said i my transaction had been processed to wait for an email with DL instructions and code and to set up a user name. still haven't received the email after 6 hrs. any suggestion?
#2608 [21:46] <cestislife> What security software are you using?
#2609 [21:46] <bob> no security software
#2610 [21:46] <Ely|afk> bob, what is your minecraft username?
#2611 [21:46] <bob> pickletrees2003
#2612 [21:46] <Ely|afk> !paid pickletrees2003
#2613 [21:46] <Jdembo|Max> Staveros, did you check your 'junk' folder?
#2614 [21:46] <bob> account is paid, profile created
#2615 [21:46] <cestislife> staveros, it would be wise to wait for 2 working days at least.
#2616 [21:46] <staveros> yes i did.
#2617 [21:47] <Ely|afk> bon, you said you have no anti-virus or firewall?
#2618 [21:47] <Ely|afk> bob*
#2619 [21:47] <bob> minecraft.net says unknown user name or password when I use my mojang info
#2620 [21:47] <staveros> 2 days? that is quite a lag between payment and email
#2621 [21:47] <bob> correct - no AV. Firewall is my cablemodem but it's set to allow ALL outbound traffic
#2622 [21:47] <bob> I even tried putting my mac into DMZ - still doesn't work. Tried on another mac and a PC as well. Same problem
#2623 [21:48] <Ely|afk> bob, it is saying that you are using incorrect credentials when you try to login to minecraft.net? That sounds like the accounts is messed up.
#2624 [21:48] <bob> correct - unknown username/password but I'm using the same email address & password from my mojang account.
#2625 [21:48] <bob> I even tried changing password & re-logging in. Same result
#2626 [21:50] <J3SS> you can log into mojang?
#2627 [21:50] <bob> Yes.
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#2629 [21:50] <Ely|afk> Bob, you will have to contact Mojang customer support to fix this issue: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#2631 [21:51] <cestislife> Could it be a Java ipv6 bug?
#2632 [21:51] <bob> if I try to directly log into minecraft.net, I get username error but if I log into mojang, check my account, and then choose games/minecraft, it logs me into minecraft.net but I get a java crash
#2633 [21:51] <Ely|afk> cestislife, no. He said that logging into minecraft.net alone gave him an error.
#2634 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> We also see login failed messages because of the email address not being verified, and when the minecraft profile has not been created
#2635 [21:51] <cestislife> Java crash, interesting.
#2636 [21:51] <Ely|afk> the java crash sounds like a separate issue.
#2637 [21:52] <bob> It's weird that I can't login directly to minecraft.net, but I can get into the site if I login to mojang. Still can't get the game to work though
#2638 [21:52] <Ely|afk> Well at least you can login one way. Let's see if we can at least get rid of that java error.
#2639 [21:52] <Ely|afk> what exactly does it say?
#2640 [21:52] <bob> java is brand new & completely up to date - new machine
#2641 [21:52] <bob> 1 sec
#2642 [21:53] <bob> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Failed to start game
#2643 [21:53] <cestislife> ??> bob pastebin
#2644 [21:53] <VoxelHead> bob: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#2646 [21:53] <ELITE_Chimp> hello?
#2647 [21:53] <cestislife> Hi Elite_chimp
#2648 [21:53] <bob> sorry: http://pastebin.com/yCxRDBgj
#2649 [21:54] <cestislife> OpenGL.
#2650 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> bob - Mac?
#2651 [21:54] <bob> yes, new mac
#2652 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> bob - Issue stems from Java 7 on mac. Reinstall with 6
#2653 [21:54] <ELITE_Chimp> my question: im making a minecraft client that will be launching vanilla minecraft. how would i link the download to minecraft?
#2654 [21:55] <ELITE_Chimp> getting the files and stuff
#2655 [21:55] <ELITE_Chimp> and then launching
#2656 [21:55] <cestislife> Launcher, you mean?
#2657 [21:55] <ELITE_Chimp> yes
#2658 [21:55] <ELITE_Chimp> launcher
#2659 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> !client
#2660 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2661 [21:55] <bob> where can I get java 6?
#2662 [21:55] <cestislife> ??> bob java/1.6
#2663 [21:55] <VoxelHead> bob: (java/1.6) To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2664 [21:56] <Lutzee> GreyVulpine: I think he means where can he get the initial files, eg main jar, and lwjgl stuff
#2665 [21:56] <bob> not for mac : (
#2666 [21:56] <bob> that page says you must get java 6 from apple via software update
#2667 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Lutzee - Yeah... I don't really have a ready list of that handy, and unsure if it violates the ToS
#2668 [21:56] <J3SS> have you tried using java 7
#2669 [21:56] <ELITE_Chimp> how would i make it the official client automatically log in as soon as i pass the username and password to it
#2670 [21:56] <bob> yes, I've tried latest version of java 7 - that's where I'm having the error
#2671 [21:57] <Lutzee> GreyVulpine: Its fine as long as you get the client to authenticate first
#2672 [21:57] <cestislife> J3SS: Problem stems from Java 7.
#2673 [21:57] <cestislife> Hold on bob.
#2674 [21:57] <J3SS> ahh
#2675 [21:57] <J3SS> what version of Mac OSX are you running?
#2676 [21:57] <bob> 10.8.2
#2677 [21:57] <cestislife> 10.8.2
#2678 [21:58] <Ely|afk> ELITE_Chimp, since there is no way that we can verify that you are not going to use it for piracy, we should not give out the information on how to do that.
#2679 [21:58] <ELITE_Chimp> ah
#2680 [21:59] <ELITE_Chimp> understood
#2681 [21:59] <bob> I'm reading a tutorial on how to downgrade to java 6 - may have to log out to do it. Hopefully not
#2682 [22:00] <cestislife> We'll always be here so go ahead.
#2683 [22:01] <bob> ok, I followed the tutorial - any idea how to check if the right version is now installed? I ran minecradft and got same error but I don't know if the install of java 6 worked
#2684 [22:01] <cestislife> You have Java 1.7 Update 10 installed.
#2685 [22:02] <Jdembo|Max> Bob
#2686 [22:02] <Jdembo|Max> You need to downgrade to Java 6?
#2687 [22:02] <bob> had it installed before - I just ran some terminal commands which are supposed to downgrade me to java 6
#2688 [22:02] <ELITE_Chimp> is this considered a valid form of authentication: "https://login.minecraft.net/?user=" & username & "&password=" & password" if you would like, i can send my source code to the answerer of my question
#2689 [22:02] <bob> Don't know how to tell if the command worked though
#2690 [22:02] <Lutzee> ?? login
#2691 [22:02] <ELITE_Chimp> me?
#2692 [22:02] <VoxelHead> login: http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test
#2693 [22:03] <VoxelHead> login: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#2694 [22:03] <ELITE_Chimp> ah
#2695 [22:03] <Jdembo|Max> Bob, just go to your Java prefernces
#2696 [22:03] <ELITE_Chimp> so was my code correct
#2697 [22:03] <Jdembo|Max> preferences*
#2698 [22:03] <Jdembo|Max> and select Java 6 as your default version
#2699 [22:03] <ELITE_Chimp> as it would pas it through and get validation
#2700 [22:03] <Lutzee> Er password needs to use the right encryption ofcourse
#2701 [22:03] <ELITE_Chimp> yea
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#2703 [22:04] <bob> ok - the downgrade worked - there's no more java control panel after the downgrade but there's a website which can tell which version
#2704 [22:05] <Jdembo|Max> ah, theres quite a few of those
#2705 [22:05] <Jdembo|Max> But then it should work
#2706 [22:05] <bob> I'm in Java 6, but I still cant' get the game to play in the browser and I can't login with the client
#2707 [22:05] <ELITE_Chimp> can anyone check my source code
#2708 [22:05] <ELITE_Chimp> for my launcher?
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#2713 [22:13] <TwilightPrincess> goto here http://adf.ly/1593z
#2714 [22:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyone saw the new Prerelease?
#2715 [22:13] * Lord_Ralex sees someone join, then link adf.ly
#2715 [22:13] <Lord_Ralex> sure....
#2716 [22:14] <Lutzee> !kick TwilightPrincess nope.
#2717 [22:14] * AuBot kicked TwilightPrincess from #minecrafthelp (Reason: wilightPrincess :Uh oh! Looks like someone should have read the rules! (Issued by Lutzee with reason: nope.))
#2718 [22:14] <Lutzee> CrusaderDeleters: looking at vids now... redstone is derpy as hell now
#2719 [22:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Those comparator blocks are just Repeaters
#2720 [22:14] <Eddie> !ban *!*@CPE-124-181-151-89.vic.bigpond.net.au
#2721 [22:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Also, cya for a small while.
#2722 [22:14] <Eddie> Depr
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#2724 [22:15] <Lutzee> Eddie: use Vox for the bans
#2725 [22:15] <JTR> Adfly link is harmless, it's a screamer.
#2726 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> It's a screamer?
#2727 [22:15] <Eddie|Afk> I can't use Vox.
#2728 [22:15] <Elystus> CrusaderDeleters, yes
#2729 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh.
#2730 [22:15] <Lutzee> Ahh,
#2731 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> I thought it was meatspin.
#2732 [22:15] <Elystus> I had headphones on
#2733 [22:15] * AuBot kicked CrusaderDeleters from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rusaderDeleters :Please keep it civil.)
#2734 [22:15] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#2734 [22:15] <Elystus> lol
#2735 [22:15] <Lord_Ralex> gj VoxelHead
#2736 [22:15] <Lord_Ralex> :P
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#2738 [22:15] <Eddie|Afk> lol
#2739 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Ech
#2740 [22:15] * Elystus claps
#2740 [22:16] * GreyVulpine sighs at CrusaderDeleters
#2740 [22:16] * CrusaderDeleters signs at Self
#2740 [22:16] <Lutzee> Remember that next time :p
#2741 [22:16] <Eddie|Afk> this*
#2742 [22:16] <CrusaderDeleters> I deserve that few second ban.
#2743 [22:16] <CrusaderDeleters> I forgot that was a banned word.
#2744 [22:16] * Lord_Ralex did not know it was actually
#2744 [22:16] <Lord_Ralex> .-.
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#2746 [22:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Don't go, btw.
#2747 [22:17] <CrusaderDeleters> If you don't know, good.
#2748 [22:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Now, I'll leave before I make my self look more like an idiot.
#2749 [22:17] <DopeGhoti> CrusaderDeleters: seriously?
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#2751 [22:20] <bob> any other help for me? downgraded to java 6. still can't play in browser, still can't log in with client
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#2754 [22:27] <bob> how do I get help for this app? I bought it and can't even use it
#2755 [22:28] <Jdembo|Max> What happens when you try to use the client?
#2756 [22:29] <Jdembo|Max> Does it say that it cannot connect to minecraft.net?
#2757 [22:29] <bob> I get a login failed message. I've been here for over an hour trying to get help from various people but no one canhelp me
#2758 [22:29] <bob> doesn't work in browser (white screen) doesn't work in client on 3 different computers (2 macs, 1 windows).
#2759 [22:30] <bob> can't log into mine craft.net directly - but if I login to mojang.com and click games:minecraft, then I'm magically logged in. Still can't play though
#2760 [22:30] <Jdembo|Max> I would give it a day
#2761 [22:30] <Jdembo|Max> After 24 hours, I would send a support ticket/email
#2762 [22:30] <bob> send an email to who? there's no address on their website
#2763 [22:31] <bob> also, doesn't that seem kind of crazy? they didn't wait a day to take my money
#2764 [22:31] <Elystus> bob, the logging in issue is something Mojang ahs to fix. As I said earlier, send an email to: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2765 [22:31] <Elystus> send an email with*
#2766 [22:32] <Jdembo|Max> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2767 [22:32] <Jdembo|Max> oh, Elystus beat me to it D:
#2768 [22:32] <Elystus> bob, I don't believe that in browser minecraft works on a mac
#2769 [22:32] <Jdembo|Max> Does for me
#2770 [22:32] <bob> doesn't work on client either apparently : (
#2771 [22:33] <Elystus> bob, those are two separate issues
#2772 [22:34] <Elystus> bob, can you try following the directions for number 7 on this page? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/649868-guide-mac-support-101/#entry8508737
#2773 [22:34] <bob> tried that already - can't do it. As soon as you click over to the error message (which you have to do to get the title bar) the screen turns white
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#2775 [22:36] <bob> someone said earlier that mojang is small & can't fund a 24 hour help desk. However, 8,740,629 people have bought the game at $27 each. That's over $240million. You'd think they could hire a few college kids to man the phones with some of that dough
#2776 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> They're also based in sweden, with worldwide sales
#2777 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Next thing you know, people will demand multilingual support.
#2778 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Can you imagine the expense for a 24/7, multilingual support call center
#2779 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> For a video game?
#2780 [22:37] <bob> Umm, the company I work for made less $$ than that last year. We have a 24/7 multilingual support center.
#2781 [22:38] <Lord_Ralex> bob: not everyone paid $27 btw
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#2783 [22:39] <bob> Well, all I know is that I did pay, and I bought a game that didn't work. If you bought lunch today and they gave you an empty box, would you be willing to wait 24 hours in the hopes that you might get a sandwich tomorrow?
#2784 [22:40] <Elystus> bob, let's think about this
#2785 [22:40] <Elystus> what does your company sell
#2786 [22:40] <bob> software
#2787 [22:40] <Elystus> and what exactly is their name?
#2788 [22:40] <bob> what's the diff?
#2789 [22:40] <Elystus> Just wondering if it is a big company >_>
#2790 [22:40] <Elystus> what is the pricing on the software?
#2791 [22:40] <bob> it's called charles river development. I assure you you've never heard of them.
#2792 [22:41] <Elystus> never :P
#2793 [22:41] <bob> we made $160mm revenue last year
#2794 [22:41] <Elystus> using your statistics that is more than Mojang has made from Mojang
#2795 [22:41] <Elystus> from Minecraft*
#2796 [22:41] <bob> $27 * 8million PAID customers = $240mm by my count
#2797 [22:42] <Lord_Ralex> that is over 3 years
#2798 [22:42] <Elystus> yes but minecraft has been sold for how long now?
#2799 [22:42] <Lord_Ralex> and not everyone paind $27
#2800 [22:42] <Lord_Ralex> paid*
#2801 [22:42] <Jdembo|Max> It wasn't always 27
#2802 [22:42] <Elystus> I paid 18
#2803 [22:42] <Elystus> or 19
#2804 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> I got it for $10
#2805 [22:42] <Jdembo|Max> when I bought it, it was like 0
#2806 [22:42] <Jdembo|Max> 10*
#2807 [22:42] <Elystus> I bought it in beta 1.1
#2808 [22:42] <Elystus> ;-;
#2809 [22:42] <bob> go back to my earlier statement. It's the point of it - I bought lunch today for $10 dollars from a mom & pop shop. If the box was empty I'd be PISSED
#2810 [22:42] <Lord_Ralex> that would be $80mm by your count really
#2811 [22:42] <bob> As I am NOW
#2812 [22:43] <Elystus> bob, that mom and pop shop doesnt have 9 million customers
#2813 [22:43] <Lord_Ralex> they cannot make the softwork work on everything either
#2814 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> bob: The box isn't empty - the box is full of food. The game relies on your box having some pieces of software working properly, which is the crux of most issues.
#2815 [22:43] <bob> They can either be small or big, but not both. If you sell a product to 8million customers, you should be able to support 8million customers.
#2816 [22:43] <Elystus> there are bound to be a few mistakes every so often. Unfortunately it happened to you. They will fix the account issue, but you just need to be patient and send in a support ticket.
#2817 [22:44] * Elystus has to go >_>
#2817 [22:44] <Jdembo|Max> Don't leave me!
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#2822 [22:46] <Alpha> hello?
#2823 [22:47] <Alpha> I was wondering do you buy Minecraft for a particular OS if you buy it or it doesn't matter with the exceptions of the Xbox and MobileDevice versions?
#2824 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> When you purchase minecraft, you purchase it on your account. You can play it on any PC/Mac/*nix machine that you own
#2825 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> The Portable Edition for Android and for iOS, as well as the xbox versions are all seperate versions and thus, seperate purchases
#2826 [22:49] <Alpha> thank you GreyVulpine, that helps.
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#2828 [22:49] <DopeGhoti> Alpha: to clarify, MCPE iOS and MCPE Android are also separate purchases
#2829 [22:49] <Alpha> I just could not find the information on the site and finally gave up and decided to ask
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#2841 [23:13] <MrKittyhawk> I'm having problems with Minecraft on my new computer. I've downloaded it, but it takes forever to load, and everytime I try to login it says I'm unable to connect. Also, it won't let me play offline because apparently the game isn't downloaded. Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'm using windows 8, if that helps.
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#2843 [23:30] <techno156> hm.
#2844 [23:31] <techno156> Do you have an anti-virus?
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#2850 [23:40] <CaptainHook> can someone help me setting up my server? i have been following the minecraft wiki and i have tried using hamachi. i can't seem to get anything to work. any help?
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#2852 [23:46] <DopeGhoti> first off, uninstall anything Hamachi-related
#2853 [23:46] <CaptainHook> i soon as i found out it had sercurity issues, i uninstalled it.
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#2855 [23:52] <DopeGhoti> okay, so. what part of the process are you stuck at?
#2856 [23:58] <CaptainHook> when i scan my ports, they say that minecraft is binded to the correct port. but when i scan from the outside, it says that the port is closed. i need to find out how to open it to the outside, also.