#MinecraftHelp > 2013-01-05
#1 [00:00] <Daulton03> haha ikr
#2 [00:00] <Karter> :O
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#4 [00:00] <ryan1808> i got here and some bloke asked me to tell him my problem so i did and then he buggered off -_-
#5 [00:01] <Lord_Ralex> Daulton03, you will want to get a crash report/console logs so we can see why it does that, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#6 [00:02] <ryan1808> lord ralex ive got a crash report for my problem??
#7 [00:02] <Lord_Ralex> ryan1808, pastebin it please
#8 [00:02] <Lord_Ralex> or are you asking if yours would have one?
#9 [00:02] <ryan1808> no ive got one
#10 [00:02] <Lord_Ralex> oh, then pastebin it please
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#12 [00:03] <Lord_Ralex> ??> ryan1808 pastebin
#13 [00:03] <VoxelHead> ryan1808: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#14 [00:04] <Lord_Ralex> also post it here instead of messaging it to me
#15 [00:04] <ryan1808> okay :)
#16 [00:05] <ryan1808> http://pastebin.com/a42Yarcv
#17 [00:05] <Lord_Ralex> "error fire" i'm on fire!
#18 [00:06] <yeni> hi, i need u help. I am a new member. somehow I had wrong click in the setting buttom. It's turn black screen. I couldn't see anything in the screet. how to get the reset buttom. Please help
#19 [00:06] <ryan1808> it is my computer is literally on fire right now :L
#20 [00:06] <Lord_Ralex> ryan1808, mine is running at 80C .-.
#21 [00:07] <ryan1808> why on earth is it so high?
#22 [00:07] <Lord_Ralex> was playing MWO and i am on a laptop
#23 [00:08] <Lord_Ralex> (actually was at 90C while playing)
#24 [00:08] <Lord_Ralex> anyways, back to this crash report
#25 [00:08] <ryan1808> mwo?
#26 [00:08] <yeni> everytime login... it turn black in the screen. ...
#27 [00:08] <Lord_Ralex> mechwarrior online
#28 [00:08] <ryan1808> ah i see :) is it any good?
#29 [00:08] <Lord_Ralex> ryan1808, you have updated lwjql and your drivers, correct?
#30 [00:09] <yeni> please please help... my son is crying for play
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#32 [00:09] <Lord_Ralex> ryan1808, it is in a beta, and was a fan of mechwarrior, so i like it
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#34 [00:09] <Lord_Ralex> yeni, what settings button?
#35 [00:09] <ryan1808> urm too be completely honest im a massive noob at drivers and stuff so probebly no...
#36 [00:09] <ryan1808> is there any chance i could get some help?
#37 [00:10] <Lord_Ralex> probably
#38 [00:10] <ryan1808> i will give payment in cookies :)
#39 [00:10] <Lord_Ralex> yay
#40 [00:10] <Lord_Ralex> anyways, do you know what the graphics card is?
#41 [00:11] <ryan1808> let me have a look quickly :)
#42 [00:11] * _Rogue_ heard cookies
#42 [00:11] <Lord_Ralex> ^ is pinged by cookies
#43 [00:11] <yeni> the screen turn black...I couldn't remmebered what he click he's only 7 yrs old... I am his mum...
#44 [00:11] <_Rogue_> shush
#45 [00:12] <ryan1808> haha brilliant and i think its a via igp
#46 [00:12] <ryan1808> its really old like 2006 style
#47 [00:12] <Lord_Ralex> yeni, option one is to go to the minecraft files and delete the options.txt, which will reset the options if that was the cause
#48 [00:14] <ryan1808> its called a via igp unichrome btw
#49 [00:15] <Lord_Ralex> okay, no idea what that is XD
#50 [00:16] <ryan1808> no body does :L
#51 [00:16] * Lord_Ralex googles
#51 [00:16] <ryan1808> if you need any other specs or anything my computers name is hp pavilion t3510.uk
#52 [00:16] <ryan1808> theres a website that should have everything on there :)
#53 [00:18] <Lord_Ralex> ryan1808, can you update the jwjgl
#54 [00:19] <ryan1808> how do?
#55 [00:19] <Lord_Ralex> lwjgl*
#56 [00:19] <ryan1808> and how is this done?
#57 [00:21] <Lord_Ralex> you will need to download the latest version here: http://www.lwjgl.org/download.php
#58 [00:21] <ryan1808> okay i will report pack after download :)
#59 [00:22] <ryan1808> *back
#60 [00:22] <ryan1808> what one do i download, the source, docs, the third one or applet??
#61 [00:23] <Lord_Ralex> the third
#62 [00:23] <ryan1808> okay thanks
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#64 [00:24] <Daulton03> hey lord ralex im trying to come up with an error report.. im attempting to follow all the methods on the page you gave me but some of them are just missing pieces..
#65 [00:24] <Lord_Ralex> ryan1808, you need to replace the jars in the .minecraft/bin folder with the ones from the jar folder in the zip, and the natives with the correct version you have
#66 [00:24] <Lord_Ralex> Daulton03, explain please?
#67 [00:24] <ryan1808> okay :)
#68 [00:27] <Daulton03> With no files selected (left click on background to deselect), Shift+Right Click anywhere in background of the window, and choose "Open command window here" i dont have that option when i shift+ right click..
#69 [00:27] <Daulton03> for the next method..
#70 [00:29] <Daulton03> Save the file, not as a text document, but using the All Files type. Choose a name of your liking, but use the extension ".bat" 3. Run the file. This will make the game run in offline mode, but should get you the error report. ] when i do this it dont have an option to run i only have an option to open
#71 [00:30] <Daulton03> when i open it it quickly closes... :/
#72 [00:30] <Javelin> 65.182.71.249:57449 join this server
#73 [00:30] <Javelin> whoops
#74 [00:30] <Lord_Ralex> on the file Daulton03, add a pause on the next line
#75 [00:30] <Lord_Ralex> that will leave the cmd open so you can see the message it shows before closing
#76 [00:31] <Daulton03> okay how do i add a pause? haha sorry
#77 [00:31] <Lord_Ralex> right click the file, select edit
#78 [00:31] <Lord_Ralex> then it is just like a text document, just go to the next line and type "pause" then save it
#79 [00:36] <Daulton03> any specific encoding i should be using? right now its set to ANSI?
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#81 [00:39] <ryan1808> ralex same problem :(
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#85 [00:54] <Daulton03> cest it is now freezing on the "done loading" screen of the loading process
#86 [00:54] <cestislife> Delete the bin folder and relaunch minecraft
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#88 [00:57] <Daulton03> nothing will be lost right?
#89 [00:57] <IHaveAQuickQuestion> Is this a trusted Link..? https://api.enjin.com/ajax.php?s=profile_characters
#90 [00:58] <cestislife> No daulton03
#91 [00:59] <cestislife> And ihaveaquickquestion, it is not recommended.
#92 [00:59] <Daulton03> okay i play inbrowser so delete then click play in browser on the website?
#93 [00:59] <cestislife> You use the launcher.
#94 [00:59] <Daulton03> which is the launcher?
#95 [00:59] <cestislife> ..
#96 [00:59] <IHaveAQuickQuestion> Is it trusted...? At the bottom it has a message, is that true or false?
#97 [01:00] <cestislife> !client
#98 [01:00] <Daulton03> sorry i dont know this stuff :(
#99 [01:00] <cestislife> IHaveAQuickQuestion, we do not recommend you use your login info other than the official Mojang website or minecraft site
#100 [01:01] <IHaveAQuickQuestion> ok
#101 [01:01] <cestislife> It does use the same authentication method but if Engin has a breach, then so is your account
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#112 [01:31] <bossjose00> I am trying to download the server for multy player and is not working
#113 [01:32] <Andrio> What's happening? Any error?
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#115 [01:34] <bossjose00> it open the the jaba window but does not run
#116 [01:37] <Andrio> Any error?
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#118 [01:39] <bossjose00> I do not know
#119 [01:40] <bossjose00> in the right side of the window I think I saw a error but the windoe closed
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#121 [01:43] <Andrio> Is there a 4server.log?
#122 [01:45] <TheNoodle> You and your colours
#123 [01:45] <Andrio> You and your lack of colour.
#124 [01:48] <TheNoodle> Hey, it's not my fault I'm white
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#126 [01:49] <bossjose00> no there is not server.log
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#131 [01:50] <death> when i load up minecraft it quits after loading the world and before i can play how do i fix this?
#132 [01:54] <death> ?? hello
#133 [01:56] <death> when i load up minecraft it quits after loading the world and before i can play how do i fix this?
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#142 [03:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Does anyone have an old version of minecraft Alpha 1.0.17?
#143 [03:05] <Necrodoom> .mcnostalgia
#144 [03:05] <Necrodoom> er
#145 [03:05] <Necrodoom> sec
#146 [03:05] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion
#147 [03:05] <VoxelHead> oldversion: By now there are several ways to downgrade your version of Minecraft. Either use a tool like McNostalgia, use a backup of your own, or download the old Minecraft binaries provided by Mojang. See ?? oldversion/list for a list of available binaries.
#148 [03:05] <VoxelHead> oldversion: Please note that we do not support old versions.
#149 [03:05] <Necrodoom> yeah, that
#150 [03:06] <CrusaderDeleters> MultiMC appearantly uses MCNostalgia. (LIES)
#151 [03:06] <Necrodoom> apparently@
#152 [03:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Eh. I keep forgetting that MultiMC is behind on it's updates, and it failed to update every time.
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#177 [04:35] <Necrodoom> !list
#178 [04:35] <Andrio> Any ops online?
#179 [04:36] <DiskDaemon> Sure
#180 [04:36] <Andrio> Me4502 wishes to speak with you about their ban.
#181 [04:37] <DiskDaemon> They were banned from this channel?
#182 [04:37] <Andrio> [20:29:41] VoxelHead [~VoxelHead@ip68-104-171-151.ph.ph.cox.net] has set mode +b *!*@184.154.203.43
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#184 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> Andrio: There was an excess flood, that occurred from him in multiple channels. The ban is temporary, and will be automatically lifted soon
#185 [04:39] <Andrio> ok
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#203 [05:29] <YinTaiYang> how exactly do i use a mysql?
#204 [05:29] <YinTaiYang> Ok
#205 [05:29] <YinTaiYang> as not to sound so dumb
#206 [05:29] <YinTaiYang> Well
#207 [05:30] <YinTaiYang> the multicraft control panel
#208 [05:30] <YinTaiYang> it lets you autogenerate a mysql database
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#210 [05:30] <YinTaiYang> and
#211 [05:30] <YinTaiYang> i'm trying to use survivalgames there
#212 [05:30] <YinTaiYang> so idk really how to work it
#213 [05:30] <YinTaiYang> anyone?
#214 [05:30] <Necrodoom> YinTaiYang: ask your host/multicraft producers for first
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#216 [05:31] <Necrodoom> as for survival games, plugins always come with documation
#217 [05:31] <Necrodoom> this channel is for help with vanilla client/server
#218 [05:31] <Necrodoom> not thirdparty stuff
#219 [05:32] <YinTaiYang> ahh
#220 [05:32] <YinTaiYang> alright
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#231 [06:29] <Me4502> Yay the constant ban message has gone :)
#232 [06:29] <Me4502> My client was stuck in constantly trying to connect even with the channel removed from the list
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#238 [06:54] <Sam> My laptop takes a long time to load minecraft and also technic but i double click minecraft and then 15-20 minutes later minecraft pops up what is the problem with my laptop?
#239 [06:55] <Sam> The issue isnt about technic its about minecraft why does it take so long to load?
#240 [06:56] <Sam> Can anyone help?
#241 [06:57] <Sam> or is anyone there?
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#254 [07:17] <Aaargh> ok
#255 [07:18] <Aaargh> recently purchased minecraft, installed it, registered, made an account with minecraft and mojang, but it now doesn't recognize my sign in.
#256 [07:21] <Aaargh> I'll be waiting around for an answer. Anyone. Hello? I looked for a direct help link but they successfully camoflaged it, if it exists. I suppose it can't be linked to until you sign in.
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#259 [07:28] <Calinou> Aaargh: help.mojang.com might help, we can't help with account issues here
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#262 [07:35] <Aaargh> ok, I used the link you provided and sent an email. I hope they follow up on it.
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#265 [07:36] <Lutzee> Aaargh: you might want to read this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#266 [07:37] <Aaargh> I'll take a look. thanks
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#275 [07:58] <Dark_Leviathan> Hello all Im having a problem with my minecraft, can anyone help???
#276 [07:59] <Lutzee> What is the problem?
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#278 [07:59] <Dark_Leviathan> It keeps crashing on me for no reason, I guess something is not right?
#279 [07:59] <Lutzee> Well obviously, do you getr a crash report?
#280 [08:01] <Dark_Leviathan> Ok Here is the description Exception in server tick loop?
#281 [08:02] <Dark_Leviathan> What does it mean???
#282 [08:02] <Lutzee> Er, yeah there should be a full report, please paste it on pastebin.com
#283 [08:02] <Lutzee> ?? pastebin
#284 [08:02] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#285 [08:02] <Lutzee> ^
#286 [08:02] <Dark_Leviathan> OK give me a min....
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#289 [08:05] <YinTaiYang> to get my server's MOTD colored, i just have to put § something then the message right>
#290 [08:05] <Dark_Leviathan> Here is the URL http://pastebin.com/yQ8xTrjh
#291 [08:06] <SinZ> YinTaiYang: iirc you cant put colour in MOTD
#292 [08:06] <Lutzee> ??> Dark_Leviathan mods
#293 [08:06] <VoxelHead> Dark_Leviathan: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#294 [08:06] <VoxelHead> Dark_Leviathan: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#295 [08:06] <SinZ> as on a packet level, it uses that symbol to seperate current players and max players
#296 [08:07] <Dark_Leviathan> What Mods?? I just had a Texture packet installed???
#297 [08:08] <Lutzee> Dark_Leviathan: " Is Modded: Very likely; Jar signature invalidated"
#298 [08:08] <Calinou> SinZ: since when vanilla servers have a MOTD option
#299 [08:08] <Lutzee> com/pclewis/mcpatcher/mod/TileOverride$1
#300 [08:08] <Calinou> Lutzee: mcpatcher removes meta-inf
#301 [08:08] <Andrio> Since mods.
#302 [08:08] <Calinou> KDE users like removing meta-infs
#303 [08:08] <Lutzee> Calinou: still a mod.
#304 [08:08] <Dark_Leviathan> I see..... So how do I fix this?
#305 [08:08] <Lutzee> I guess
#306 [08:08] <Dark_Leviathan> I know I just reread it =/
#307 [08:08] <Lutzee> ?? forceupdate
#308 [08:08] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#309 [08:08] <Necrodoom> Dark_Leviathan: go launcher, options, force update
#310 [08:09] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#311 [08:09] <Dark_Leviathan> Thanks I'll try that...
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#313 [08:11] <Dark_Leviathan> Wow That solved my problem, thank you all so much. couldnt have figured this out on my own.... You all have a good new years and all that good stuff....
#314 [08:11] <Dark_Leviathan> Wow That solved my problem, thank you all so much. couldnt have figured this out on my own.... You all have a good new years and all that good stuff....
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#316 [08:12] <Calinou> np
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#319 [08:22] <YinTaiYang> SinZ
#320 [08:22] <YinTaiYang> sorry for going
#321 [08:22] <YinTaiYang> by MOTD
#322 [08:23] <YinTaiYang> i meant the minecraft MOTD
#323 [08:23] <YinTaiYang> for servers
#324 [08:23] <YinTaiYang> i've seen other servers do so
#325 [08:23] <Lutzee> YinTaiYang: the message you get after you join on some servers is because it uses a modified version of the server jar
#326 [08:23] <Lutzee> (eg bukkit)
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#367 [10:03] <Stevie_> If bedrock is surrounding u 2 stories high and u don't have any ladders how do u get out
#368 [10:03] <infernu89> i have byed minecraft and i dont get it to work
#369 [10:04] <Andrio> Stevie_, place blocks under you if you have any
#370 [10:04] <infernu89> and u throw a enderpearl out if u have Stevie
#371 [10:04] <Stevie_> What's an enderpearl?
#372 [10:05] <Lutzee> Stevie_: If you press open to lan in the pause menue you can then use /gamemode <yourname> creative and fly out
#373 [10:06] <infernu89> u get a pearl when u kills a enderman one of the big three blocs high black monsters
#374 [10:06] <Stevie_> It's on peaceful mode
#375 [10:07] <Lutzee> Stevie_: my option is probably the easiest and best bet
#376 [10:07] <Stevie_> Litzee, wheres LAN
#377 [10:07] <infernu89> go to the options and turn it on easy
#378 [10:07] <Lutzee> Stevie_: Pause the game (esc) and press open to lan
#379 [10:08] <Stevie_> Can't find where to turn in easy
#380 [10:08] <infernu89> that is an easy way too
#381 [10:09] <Stevie_> Litzee, when I hit pause all I see is back to game, quit to title, or server is invisible
#382 [10:10] <infernu89> shit i dont know
#383 [10:10] <Stevie_> I have the full version, do u think that's different?
#384 [10:11] <infernu89> its that u need
#385 [10:12] <Stevie_> Do u think there's a way around this?
#386 [10:13] <infernu89> have u some blocs on you?
#387 [10:13] <Stevie_> Yes but I'm surrounded on all sides and bottom with bedrock
#388 [10:14] <Stevie_> Do u think sensitivity level has to do with this
#389 [10:15] <infernu89> jump while looking down and place a block
#390 [10:16] <infernu89> do that many times and u are up
#391 [10:16] <Stevie_> I did it. Thank u!!!!
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#393 [10:17] <infernu89> ah it was not so much Stevie humrehumrehumre
#394 [10:19] <infernu89> but Stevie remember to do it next time like this and just ¨å å i fell down
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#407 [11:12] <Bon> can't get this to work - help
#408 [11:15] <Morrolan> What does not work? And how does it fail to work?
#409 [11:16] <Necrodoom> inb4 'idk'
#410 [11:18] <Bon> I have an iMac and trying to Download - keep getting a message that Minecraft has encounter a problem and can't down load "Crash-2013-01-05_10.29.50-client.txt / Operating system is macOSX(X86_64)version10.8.2
#411 [11:18] <tyteen4a03> Bon, does it also say you shold move Minecraft to trash?
#412 [11:19] <Bon> NO
#413 [11:19] <Bon> I have open the security to allow to allow all downloads
#414 [11:19] <tyteen4a03> ??> Bon mac/gatekeepr/disable
#415 [11:19] <tyteen4a03> ??> Bon mac/gatekeeper/disable
#416 [11:19] <VoxelHead> Bon: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#417 [11:19] <tyteen4a03> Bon, this? ^
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#423 [11:29] <Bon_> lost - I have fully opened gate keeper - this isn't the problem - Crash-2013-01-05_10.29.50-client.txt / operating system macOSX(X86_64)version10.8.2 - This is my first Mac product
#424 [11:30] <enderdragonmason> bought minecraft through mojang and i was able to assign a user profile but never me an option to creat a password
#425 [11:30] <Bon_> I've create the password and all that stuff - still no go
#426 [11:31] <enderdragonmason> what do u mean
#427 [11:33] <Bon_> I get the same message over & over "Minecraft has stop running because it has encountered a problem;failed to start the game"
#428 [11:34] <enderdragonmason> mine never gave me a password to get into minecraft in the first place
#429 [11:35] <Bon_> OK how do I get my money back? This is BS
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#433 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> uh, not watching the chanel for 5 minutes and stuff happened
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#440 [11:50] <Haley> When i downloaded minecraft it loaded up fine. its downloaded on my computer as Minecraft(1) when i click on that through my start menu to play it it loads the login screen i click login on the player it loads to the white mojang screen then exits itself. i am using this on windows 7.
#441 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> Haley, no error mesages?
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#449 [12:08] <Morrolan> Drinking a coffee, eating a piece of chocolate, doing some work for school, and he's gone. Heh.
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#452 [12:10] <carson_> we cannot download the minecraft software on our PC after entering the card code. Any sugg's?
#453 [12:10] <Morrolan> Where are you stuck at?
#454 [12:10] <carson_> when we click to download or save it says unable to download
#455 [12:11] <carson_> i checked to see if there were security issues or a firewall - don't see anything
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#457 [12:11] <Morrolan> !client
#458 [12:11] <Morrolan> Pick the appropriate client from here. Any change?
#459 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, school?
#460 [12:11] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Mhm. After having finished school, I'm in school yet again. Yay.
#461 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, grad school?
#462 [12:12] <Morrolan> No, I finished, uh, highschool, yet didn't feel like going to university. So I'm doing a shortened apprenticeship now.
#463 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, I see
#464 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> where are you going?
#465 [12:13] <Morrolan> 'where'?
#466 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> or, which school are you applying to
#467 [12:14] <Morrolan> Nothing to apply for. One gets assigned.
#468 [12:14] <Morrolan> I think the difference between our two countries' educational systems is making this discussion rather complicated. :P
#469 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, possibly yours and the rest of the world
#470 [12:15] <Morrolan> You're from?
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#472 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> Hong Kong
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#474 [12:15] <Morrolan> Ah.
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#477 [12:16] <timbowilliam> logging into minecraft my screen is black
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#479 [12:16] <carson_> hi guys - me again, thanks for the link - now it asks me to save - I click save and it takes me to folders saying file nopt
#480 [12:16] <carson_> not recognized
#481 [12:16] <Morrolan> Uh, can you save it nevertheless, carson_? (Preferrably somewhere where you can find it afterwards, like your desktop.)
#482 [12:16] <timbowilliam> why is my screen black after logging in????
#483 [12:16] <carson_> or actually it says 'no items match your search' - wth
#484 [12:17] <Morrolan> timbowilliam - Try a force update:
#485 [12:17] <Morrolan> ??> timbowilliam forceupdate
#486 [12:17] <VoxelHead> timbowilliam: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#487 [12:17] <VoxelHead> timbowilliam: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#489 [12:17] <Morrolan> carson_ - That is, err, rather odd.
#490 [12:17] <timbowilliam> thank you, I will give that a try
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#492 [12:19] <forcepalm02> hello, I need help. My minecraft server was running fine earlier. I left to eat, but when I restarted my server and client, they wouldn't communicate and thus, I couldn't join. any help?
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#494 [12:20] <bossmonster> my minecraft game wont work because im in full screen mode now my screen is black
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#496 [12:20] <bossmonster> can anyone help
#497 [12:21] <carson_> can't save it - it jsut sits there. so annoying and @timbowilliam - I see no options button above the log in button - I feel like an idiot
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#500 [12:22] <bossmonster> how do u install minecraft again
#501 [12:22] <TR> I need to talk about an error report i've been getting
#502 [12:22] <tyteen4a03> bossmonster, download it from minecraft.net/download
#503 [12:22] <tyteen4a03> TR, where is the error report?
#504 [12:22] <bossmonster> thanks
#505 [12:22] <bossmonster> will i lose my worlds?
#506 [12:23] <TR> In the client after i open it
#507 [12:23] <forcepalm02> back them up just in case
#508 [12:23] <bossmonster> but i cant see cuz my screens black
#509 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> bossmonster, you don't have any worlds to begin with, given that it's your first time running Minecraft
#510 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> TR, paste the log on pastebin.com and give us the link you were sent to
#511 [12:23] <forcepalm02> go to your .minecraft folder and copy the minecraft worlds onto the desktop
#512 [12:23] <bossmonster> no no no i went to full screen mode now i have a balck screen everytime i log in to play
#513 [12:24] <tyteen4a03> bossmonster, windows I presume?
#514 [12:24] <bossmonster> yes
#515 [12:24] <tyteen4a03> ??> bossmonster win/.minecraft
#516 [12:24] <VoxelHead> bossmonster: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#517 [12:24] <tyteen4a03> bossmonster, go there, either open the options.txt, find fullscreen=true and change it to false, or delete the options.txt
#518 [12:24] <bossmonster> ok thanks
#519 [12:24] <forcepalm02> tyteen: can you help w/ my problem?
#520 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, what is your problem?
#521 [12:25] <forcepalm02> hello, I need help. My minecraft server was running fine earlier. I left to eat, but when I restarted my server and client, they wouldn't communicate and thus, I couldn't join. any help?
#522 [12:25] <forcepalm02> that's verbatim what i typed ~2 minutes ago
#523 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, server IP please
#524 [12:26] <forcepalm02> 25.230.93.173 and the port is 25565 by default
#525 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> !check 25.230 93.173
#526 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, sounds like a serverside problem
#527 [12:27] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, make sure no java(w).exe instances are left behind
#528 [12:27] <forcepalm02> ok, i think the problem is you forgot a . in the ip you typed
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#530 [12:27] <TR> http://pastebin.com/87SBSUgM thats the link
#531 [12:27] <VoxelHead> TR: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#532 [12:27] <VoxelHead> TR: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#533 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> TR, continue following the instructions AuBot just gave you
#534 [12:28] <TR> it says all my dirvers are up to date tho.
#535 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> !check 25.230.93.173
#536 [12:28] <forcepalm02> hmmm
#537 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, I blame AuBot for no error checking
#538 [12:28] <justin122002> I am having an issue logging into the mac program, it is not accepting my username and password. Any insight?
#539 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> justin122002, are you on Mojang accounts? if so, use your email
#540 [12:29] <justin122002> tried that as well...
#541 [12:29] <TR> tyteen4a03 It says all my drivers are up to date
#542 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> justin122002, when you bought Minecraft, were you asked to choose a username for Minecraft?
#543 [12:29] <justin122002> yes
#544 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> justin122002, can I have the username please?
#545 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> TR, ignore whatever dxdiag tells you
#546 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> TR, 110% it is wrong
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#548 [12:31] <TR> Then what should i do for my "bad video card drivers"
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#551 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> ??> TR win/dxdia
#552 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> ??> TR win/dxdiag
#553 [12:31] <VoxelHead> TR: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#554 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> TR, follow these directions
#555 [12:31] <VoxelHead> TR: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#558 [12:32] <TR> I HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT ANY OF THIS MEANS!
#559 [12:32] * AuBot kicked TR from #minecrafthelp (Reason: R :Please keep it civil.)
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#561 [12:33] <forcepalm02> tyteen: the page looks like it crashed. can you help me w/ my problem from before. namely the "java(w)" instances?
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#563 [12:33] <Calinou> poor windows user
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#566 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, go to task manager and kill every java(w).exe
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#568 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, eeyup
#569 [12:34] <TR> I have no clue what you guys mean. I just need to know how i can fix the "bad video card drivers" error report.
#570 [12:34] <Calinou> TR is the 4875th person in this channel who doesn't know what the "windows" key is
#571 [12:34] <forcepalm02> tyteen: it only has java(TM) instances
#572 [12:34] <Calinou> keyboard manufacturers, please call it super or something ;-;
#573 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> ??> justin122002 scold/pm
#574 [12:34] <VoxelHead> justin122002: (scold/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#575 [12:34] <Calinou> TR: update your video card driers ;)
#576 [12:34] <TR> Okay i am sorry for that brain fart win means windows key.
#577 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> TR, which part are you stuck on?
#578 [12:34] <Calinou> or maybe your video card is too old
#579 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, use the Processes tab
#580 [12:34] <Calinou> no problem
#581 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> !paid justin122002
#582 [12:35] <justin122002> ty, my username is the same as the one I used here
#583 [12:35] <forcepalm02> I'm in it
#584 [12:35] <forcepalm02> that's where they are
#585 [12:35] <TR> i am like a computer expert but i've been slow for the past few days, sorry guys
#586 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, hunt down every java(w).exe and kill them
#587 [12:35] <justin122002> My paypal balance would beg to differ...
#588 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> justin122002, looks like something went wrong when you bought Minecraft
#589 [12:36] <forcepalm02> tyteen done
#590 [12:36] <TR> Tyteen4a03, just simplify the proccess for me.
#591 [12:36] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, then try running Minecraft server again
#592 [12:36] <tyteen4a03> ??> TR win/dxdiag/bat
#593 [12:36] <VoxelHead> TR: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#594 [12:36] <VoxelHead> TR: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#595 [12:36] <tyteen4a03> justin122002, email Mojang at help.mojang.com, including your Mojang account email, transaction ID and your desired username
#596 [12:36] <forcepalm02> alright
#597 [12:37] <forcepalm02> can you chech now tyteen?
#598 [12:37] <forcepalm02> check*
#599 [12:38] <TR> how do i download it
#600 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> TR, copy the link and paste it into your browser
#601 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> !check 25.230.93.173
#602 [12:38] <TR> which one?
#603 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> TR, the DxDiag Collector VoxelHead just posted
#604 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> TR, i.e http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#605 [12:39] <justin122002> help@mojang.com?
#606 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> justin122002, no, http://help.mojang.com
#607 [12:39] <TR> thanks tyteen4a03
#608 [12:40] <justin122002> no email is listed there...
#609 [12:40] <forcepalm02> tyteen, any way we(you) can find out what's wrong and correct it?
#610 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> ??> justin122002 mojang/email
#611 [12:40] <VoxelHead> justin122002: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#612 [12:40] <Necrodoom> forcepalm02: problem is no one here is mojang employee
#613 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, open command prompt, enter netstat -an and paste the results on pastebin.com
#614 [12:40] <TR> its telling me to stand by, is that good?
#615 [12:40] <forcepalm02> all right
#616 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> TR, yes
#617 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> anyways hi Necrodoom
#618 [12:41] <Necrodoom> ah, confused with other guy
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#620 [12:43] <TR> http://pastebin.com/1NsgY1UP
#621 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> TR, hang on
#622 [12:43] <TR> thts the link
#623 [12:43] <forcepalm02> http://pastebin.com/fqsuJcE5
#624 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> TR, it looks like your computer is too old to run Minecraft
#625 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, something is eating your 25565 port
#626 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, try restarting your computer and try running the server again
#627 [12:44] <TR> lol believeable, not my computer, my grandmas
#628 [12:44] <forcepalm02> ok see you soon or if it works (hopefully not)
#629 [12:44] <forcepalm02> :)
#630 [12:44] <justin122002> I have submitted my email. Is there any kind of time frame to be expected for response.
#631 [12:45] <TR> its a vista tower running x :P
#632 [12:45] <TR> xp*
#633 [12:45] <tyteen4a03> justin122002, Mojang currently has roughly a 10 day email backtrace
#634 [12:45] <tyteen4a03> TR, good choice actually
#635 [12:45] <TR> well thank you guys anyway for all your help
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#637 [12:46] <justin122002> 10 days?! Can I just get a refund?
#638 [12:47] <justin122002> I'm not interested in waiting 10 days to be able to use a game...
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#640 [12:47] <Morrolan> I refund won't be any faster, you know.
#641 [12:47] <Morrolan> Since you'd still have to contact them.
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#643 [12:48] <Morrolan> Also, ten days is putting it a bit mildly. They're closer to twenty days, I'm afraid. :)
#644 [12:48] * tyteen4a03 updates his database
#644 [12:48] <justin122002> pretty ridiculous though... doesn't seem like a very professional organization, in my estimation.
#645 [12:48] <tyteen4a03> justin122002, they're not
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#647 [12:48] <Morrolan> Their customer service is understaffed, and probably underpaid. :P
#648 [12:48] <Morrolan> They've been struggling for half a year now, trying to catch up.
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#650 [12:49] * tyteen4a03 is still waiting for Mojang to set up a better customer service department
#650 [12:49] <Morrolan> If we and the forums were to shut down, it'd be even worse, I suppose.
#651 [12:49] <forcepalm02> tyteen, unfortunately it still doesn't work
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#653 [12:49] <Lutzee> How many of the forum helpers even actively use IRC?
#654 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, Ely
#655 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> and probably nobody else
#656 [12:50] <Lutzee> I know Ely, thats about it..
#657 [12:50] <Morrolan> jefesomethingsomething is active on #mcf.
#658 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, another netstat -an please
#659 [12:50] <forcepalm02> okay
#660 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, uh
#661 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, I meant -ab
#662 [12:50] <forcepalm02> ok
#663 [12:50] <Lutzee> Morrolan: jefe_ :p
#664 [12:51] <Morrolan> Doesn't he sometimes use numbers or something?
#665 [12:51] <Morrolan> *shrug*
#666 [12:51] <Morrolan> Should get back to work. ;D
#667 [12:51] <forcepalm02> tyteen, it says the action requires elevation
#668 [12:51] <justin122002> lutzee... I knew a guy in college name Lutze, haha
#669 [12:52] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, open Command prompt as an admin
#670 [12:52] <forcepalm02> all right
#671 [12:54] <Lutzee> My name on here doesn't actually stem fro the name Lutze thouhg :p
#672 [12:55] <forcepalm02> here you go tyteen http://pastebin.com/tna0yr9k
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#674 [12:56] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, try this to kill javaw.exe instead: cmd: taskkill /F /IM javaw.exe
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#676 [12:57] <Calinou> <Morrolan> Their customer service is understaffed, and probably underpaid. :P <= pay them then
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#678 [12:57] <Calinou> volounteer support ftw :)
#679 [12:57] <forcepalm02> it 'tis dead suh
#680 [12:57] <Calinou> but we can't help with everything :P
#681 [12:57] <Morrolan> Why should I pay Mojang's support dudes? oO
#682 [12:58] <tyteen4a03> well I do need a part time job
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#684 [12:58] <Calinou> Morrolan: because they don't want to do it :) they have like 8 employees for support already, no?
#685 [12:58] <Calinou> i'm surprised there is a 20 day delay
#686 [12:58] <Lutzee> The had some temps to reduce the backlog, but i dont think there is that many now
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#688 [12:59] <forcepalm02> tyteen?
#689 [12:59] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, ys?
#690 [12:59] <tyteen4a03> *yes
#691 [12:59] <forcepalm02> it 'tis dead suh
#692 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> ...?
#693 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, you're assigning 8,765,533 people to 8 people
#694 [13:00] <forcepalm02> the javaw.exe
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#697 [13:00] <ngc0202> hey
#698 [13:00] <ngc0202> I can't log in to minecraft
#699 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> ngc0202, what happens when you try?
#700 [13:00] <ngc0202> It gets stuck on logging in
#701 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> ??> forcepalm02 ask/wtfd
#702 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> ??> forcepalm02 ask/wtf
#703 [13:00] <VoxelHead> forcepalm02: (ask/wtf) Please form your question in the form of a question. Whatever you just said was unclear.
#704 [13:00] <Calinou> tyteen4a03: not all of them have issues
#705 [13:01] <Morrolan> Those who do tend to write ten e-mails, though. :D
#706 [13:01] <forcepalm02> javaw.exe was terminated in cmd.exe
#707 [13:01] <Calinou> if 10% of people have issues, that means 8,765,533 -- and not all of them are currently playing the game ;)
#708 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, ok, try running the server again
#709 [13:01] <Morrolan> But well, whatever the reason for their backlog, they _are_ backlogged. :)
#710 [13:01] <ngc0202> I think it's pretty clear what my question was
#711 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> ??> ngc0202 irc/multitasking
#712 [13:01] <VoxelHead> ngc0202: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#713 [13:01] <Calinou> oops, 876,553
#714 [13:01] <superkabii> "it doesn't work"
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#716 [13:01] <ngc0202> That was stupid of me :P
#717 [13:02] <forcepalm02> It's alive!!! IT'S ALIVE!!!
#718 [13:02] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, well they have a lot of 1. unclear emails, 2. kids who can't comprehend, 3. angry customers who doesn't know how to read, and 4. people that sends 10 emails stating the same problem
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#720 [13:02] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, there was a ghost instance of your server living in the realms of your processes list
#721 [13:02] <ngc0202> Could it be related to Notch rebelling against Windows 8? :|
#722 [13:02] <tyteen4a03> ngc0202, try disabling Metro first
#723 [13:02] <tyteen4a03> ??> ngc0202 disablemetro
#724 [13:02] <ngc0202> Metro?
#725 [13:03] <tyteen4a03> ??> ngc0202 win/disablemetro
#726 [13:03] <tyteen4a03> ??> ngc0202 win/metro
#727 [13:03] <VoxelHead> ngc0202: (win/metro) Metro is Windows 8's newest touch interface, and is known to cause problems with Minecraft. For information on disabling it, please see win/metro/disable
#728 [13:03] <ngc0202> ?? win/metro/disable
#729 [13:03] <VoxelHead> win/metro/disable: How to disable the Metro UI in Windows 6.2 (AKA "Windows 8"): http://techmell.com/how-to/disable-metro-ui-windows-8/
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#731 [13:03] <Calinou> ngc0202: xubuntu.org > download iso > unetbootin.sf.net > download unetbootin > plug usb drive > put iso on usb drive > ??? > PROFIT :P
#732 [13:04] <Calinou> (oh and, disable secure boot!)
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#735 [13:04] <ngc0202> :P
#736 [13:04] <ngc0202> Debian, altha
#737 [13:04] <Calinou> lol
#738 [13:04] <ngc0202> I didn't love Ubuntu that much
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#740 [13:04] <Calinou> xubuntu, not ubuntu
#741 [13:05] <Calinou> ngc0202: do you have any kind of firewall?
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#743 [13:05] <ngc0202> Yeah, I disabled it though
#744 [13:05] <Calinou> antivirus?
#745 [13:05] <ngc0202> yeah
#746 [13:05] <forcepalm02> tyteen: when I try to join, java times out. it says"Internal Exception: java.net.SocketYimeoutException: Read timed out" and has a button for the title screen
#747 [13:05] <ngc0202> I think it might be related to Java
#748 [13:06] <ngc0202> I've had problems with other Java things too
#749 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> !check ip70-191-164-235.pn.at.cox.net
#750 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> derp
#751 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> derp
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#753 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, IP again please?
#754 [13:06] <forcepalm02> 25.230.93.173
#755 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> ngc0202, Any special characters in your Windows username?
#756 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> !check 25.230.93.173
#757 [13:06] <ngc0202> nope
#758 [13:06] <ngc0202> Also, update news doesn't load either
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#760 [13:07] <tyteen4a03> ngc0202, plain black?
#761 [13:07] <ngc0202> greyish
#762 [13:07] <ngc0202> and "Loading update news..."
#763 [13:07] <tyteen4a03> ??> ngc0202 java/1.6
#764 [13:07] <VoxelHead> ngc0202: (java/1.6) To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#765 [13:07] <tyteen4a03> ngc0202, uninstall every version of java and get java 6 instead
#766 [13:07] <ngc0202> I'm pretty sure I have the latest Java
#767 [13:07] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, did you have anything in the server-ip field in server.properties?
#768 [13:07] <nickfromgreek> i have a problem (IG problem) i have a booth where cmd blocks tp you you get thrown potions and it tps you out the problem is that the pressure plate stays on sometimes
#769 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> ngc0202, the "latest" java version is Java 7, which is known to have problems
#770 [13:08] <forcepalm02> I've tried it w/ and w/o it, neither worked
#771 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, empty that field
#772 [13:08] <ngc0202> Is there Java 6 for Win8?
#773 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> ngc0202, just use the Win7 distribution
#774 [13:08] <forcepalm02> it is
#775 [13:08] <Calinou> ngc0202: yes
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#777 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, and finally.. any mods?
#778 [13:09] <ngc0202> It won't let me uninstall it
#779 [13:09] <forcepalm02> yes, 56 of 'em
#780 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, remove all of them
#781 [13:09] <ngc0202> Actually, I need to restart my computer, I'll be back in like 5 mins
#782 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, one of the mods are probably causing the problem
#783 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> ngc0202, see ya
#784 [13:10] <forcepalm02> it's part of the mod pack from FTB and it worked earlier at around 5:30
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#786 [13:10] <forcepalm02> so isthe server
#787 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, could be a memory leak or some buggy source
#788 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> we don't support modded Minecraft
#789 [13:10] <Lutzee> FTB is pretty stable... all the same join #ftb and ask there
#790 [13:11] <forcepalm02> norton just pulled up a 'fixer' for something and it's done can you check it now to see itf it did
#791 [13:11] <Lutzee> Norton | Fixer yeah i dont expect that to do anything
#792 [13:11] <forcepalm02> well it tries at least
#793 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, uninstall Norton
#794 [13:12] <forcepalm02> Norton isn't exactly good for anything
#795 [13:12] <forcepalm02> ok
#796 [13:12] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, it sucks and likes to block Minecraft for no reason
#797 [13:12] <forcepalm02> i found that out on my last computer but if it is the reason, it hasn't been acting up until now
#798 [13:12] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, norton is magic
#799 [13:13] <forcepalm02> what mean you squire?
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#801 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, who knows what Norton would be doing while you were away
#802 [13:13] <forcepalm02> i suppose
#803 [13:14] <forcepalm02> what happened
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#805 [13:14] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, you tell me
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#807 [13:14] <forcepalm02> sorry, the chat froze up
#808 [13:14] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, no problem
#809 [13:14] <forcepalm02> it wants me to restart to complete the uninstall bye
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#811 [13:15] <coryw> hello
#812 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> hi
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#814 [13:17] <nickfromgreek> i have a problem (IG problem) i have a booth where cmd blocks tp you you get thrown potions and it tps you out the problem is that the pressure plate stays on sometimes
#815 [13:17] <forcepalm02_> why world, why do you hate me so? so uh, tyteen, any more ideas?
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#818 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02_, eh, is the server currently on?
#819 [13:18] <forcepalm02_> yup
#820 [13:19] <tyteen4a03> !check 25.230.93.173
#821 [13:19] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02_, turn it off
#822 [13:19] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02_, taskkill /F /IM javaw.exe and java.exe, then do a netstat -ab
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#824 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> *abn
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#827 [13:23] <forcepalm02_> hur ya go tyteen http://pastebin.com/iMsj29cL
#828 [13:23] <ngc0202> I just installed Java 6
#829 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02_, can you connect via 127.0.0.1?
#830 [13:24] <forcepalm02_> let me check
#831 [13:24] <ngc0202> tyteen4a03: Installing Java 6 fixed it
#832 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> ngc0202, good
#833 [13:24] <ngc0202> :) thanks
#834 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> no problem
#835 [13:24] <ngc0202> Tschü!
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#837 [13:25] <forcepalm02_> tyteen: it said "Connection Refused: connect"
#838 [13:27] <forcepalm02_> tyteen?
#839 [13:27] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: [hamachi-2.exe] ..
#840 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02_, uninstall Hamachi
#841 [13:27] <forcepalm02_> yup, it's port forwarding for me and my friend
#842 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, thank you
#843 [13:28] <forcepalm02_> awwwww but mooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmm!
#844 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> ??> forcepalm02_ fubar/hamachi
#845 [13:28] <VoxelHead> forcepalm02_: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. Concordantly, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#846 [13:28] <VoxelHead> forcepalm02_: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#847 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02_, if you need more hint, the term "fubar" means f**ked up beyond all repair
#848 [13:29] <forcepalm02_> nice
#849 [13:29] <forcepalm02_> ok
#850 [13:30] <forcepalm02_> it doesn't show up in the control panel under uninstall programs
#851 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02_, find LogMeIn
#852 [13:30] <forcepalm02_> that might be why let me see
#853 [13:30] <forcepalm02_> found it, thanks
#854 [13:30] <forcepalm02_> goodbye hamachi
#855 [13:31] <forcepalm02_> done it's gone
#856 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02_, restart computer and try everything again
#857 [13:31] <forcepalm02_> ok hope it works, thanks in advance
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#859 [13:35] <forcepalm02> well thur ya go
#860 [13:35] <forcepalm02> nothing changed
#861 [13:36] <forcepalm02> well now i know what that does
#862 [13:37] <forcepalm02> why is AuBot on @#poop?
#863 [13:37] <nickfromgreek> when i do /spawnpoint it sets the spawn for all players?
#864 [13:37] <nickfromgreek> (singleplayer)
#865 [13:37] <nickfromgreek> (its a map that will be shared)
#866 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, nothing changed? hmm
#867 [13:38] <Lutzee> forcepalm02: Because the bots owner wants it there, or someone wanted it there and the owner agreed
#868 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, can you check whether your IP could have changed?
#869 [13:38] <forcepalm02> well ok lutzee thanks for the info
#870 [13:38] <Lutzee> nickfromgreek: try it, if it asks for parameters then probably not
#871 [13:38] <forcepalm02> i know you can do it in cmd,but what's the command
#872 [13:39] <forcepalm02> nvm it's ipconfig
#873 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, use whatismyip.com
#874 [13:39] <forcepalm02> ok i'll use it
#875 [13:39] <nickfromgreek> standdalone it says: setted spawn point for <my username> but when i connected offline mdoe where the username got replaced with my e-mail i spawned at teh same place
#876 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, if your server is behind a router it will give you false information
#877 [13:40] <forcepalm02> it is apparently 70.191.164.235 now
#878 [13:40] <Lutzee> !check 70.191.164.235
#879 [13:40] <forcepalm02> but the other one worked yesterday and up until 5:30ish today
#880 [13:41] <nickfromgreek> Lutzee i think you forget the port
#881 [13:41] <forcepalm02> that's all it shows on whatismyip.com
#882 [13:41] <nickfromgreek> well if you havent setted a port it will be 25565
#883 [13:42] <forcepalm02> i know as much
#884 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> nickfromgreek, it automatically appends the port
#885 [13:42] <nickfromgreek> ah K
#886 [13:42] <forcepalm02> when i typed ipconfig into cmd.exe, it gave me this IPV4: "192.168.1.111"
#887 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, there's this thing called DHCP leash that changes your IP after a set seconds if you don't use it
#888 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, also make sure the router is set to portforward to this computer
#889 [13:43] <forcepalm02> how do magnets work
#890 [13:43] <forcepalm02> ?
#891 [13:43] * benhunter09|away is now known as benhunter09
#892 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, magnets as in...?
#893 [13:43] <forcepalm02> portforwarding
#894 [13:43] * frdmn|afk is now known as frdmn
#895 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, ...what
#896 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, what is your router model?
#897 [13:44] <forcepalm02> how do i port forward
#898 [13:44] <forcepalm02> umm let me check
#899 [13:44] <forcepalm02> Cisco Linksys E4200
#900 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, follow the instructions here: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Cisco/Linksys-E4200/Minecraft_Server.htm
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#903 [13:45] <forcepalm02> well this is very precise looking at least from the URL name
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#907 [13:47] <forcepalm02> can't login to the router, it's not admin
#908 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, somebody might have changed the router password
#909 [13:48] <forcepalm02> I'll ask about it uno momento
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#912 [13:51] <nickfromgreek> is there a way i can locally change my username so i can etst spawn point for other usernames?
#913 [13:52] <nickfromgreek> test*
#914 [13:53] <Morrolan> There's clients which allow to do so. (On offline-mode servers only, obv.)
#915 [13:53] <forcepalm02> can't find it
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#917 [13:54] <Morrolan> nickfromgreek - But, uh, most plugins support setting spawnpoints per-group.
#918 [13:54] <nickfromgreek> i am on a single player world (adventure map) so i need ot be sure of the spawn point being correct
#919 [13:54] <forcepalm02> I'm going to try the program they have on the page tyteen
#920 [13:55] <Morrolan> nickfromgreek - As far as I'm aware, spawn points are global, for all players. (On Vanilla Minecraft, that is.)
#921 [13:55] <Morrolan> Unless that is different with adventure maps, I've never used those.
#922 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, don't bother
#923 [13:55] <forcepalm02> why?
#924 [13:55] <Morrolan> If you don't know your router's password, that program can't do anything.
#925 [13:56] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, that program doesn't really do anything
#926 [13:56] <tyteen4a03> ninja'd
#927 [13:56] <forcepalm02> okay, then any way i can get into the router?
#928 [13:56] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, find out your router password
#929 [13:57] <forcepalm02> we don't have it on file, any way to find out? i've tried op operator admin and tech in both fields
#930 [13:57] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, you will have to ask somebody
#931 [13:57] <tyteen4a03> or just reset the router
#932 [13:58] <forcepalm02> how do black magic?
#933 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, hold the reset button for 10 seconds or something
#934 [13:58] <forcepalm02> ok, any side effects of doing it?
#935 [13:58] <Morrolan> You might just loose internet connection.
#936 [13:59] <forcepalm02> figured
#937 [13:59] <Morrolan> And, depending on the setup, you'll have to manually enter ISP-supplied username and password afterwards.
#938 [13:59] <Morrolan> If you don't know those, don't even think of hard-resetting ig.
#939 [13:59] <Morrolan> it*
#940 [13:59] <forcepalm02> i don't know if it does that
#941 [13:59] <forcepalm02> but i think i've tried it once before and nothing bad happened
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#943 [14:01] <forcepalm02> i'm going to hard reset it
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#945 [14:02] <forcepalm02> bye
#946 [14:03] <Weylsu> Hello, where can I find Minecraft version 1.4.5?
#947 [14:03] <Weylsu> I currently have 1.4.6 and wish to downgrade to join a server.
#948 [14:04] <Morrolan> ?? oldversion/list
#949 [14:04] <VoxelHead> oldversion/list: A partial list of all Minecraft binary files which are hosted publicly by Mojang can be found here: https://pastebin.com/gwrQrQL9
#950 [14:04] <VoxelHead> oldversion/list: A much uglier, but up-to-date list can be found here: http://morrolan.ch/minecrafthelp/minecraft_assets.html
#951 [14:04] <Morrolan> (The actual files are on http://assets.minecraft.net, but that page is hard to navigate, therefore those lists.)
#952 [14:04] <Weylsu> Thank you
#953 [14:05] <Morrolan> Sure thing. :)
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#956 [14:08] <Calinou> Morrolan: what is unstitcher? :P
#957 [14:08] <Calinou> btw, I'd show the file size in megabytes instead of bytes...
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#961 [14:09] <Weylsu> Morrolan: these versions aren't for Mac OS X, are they?
#962 [14:10] <Morrolan> Java is platform-independent, Weylsu.
#963 [14:10] <Morrolan> Calinou - I have wondered the same thing, too. :P
#964 [14:10] <Morrolan> And yes, Megabytes would be prettier.
#965 [14:11] <Weylsu> Morrolan: Ah . . how do I use these .jar files?
#966 [14:11] <Morrolan> ?? mac/.minecraft
#967 [14:11] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#968 [14:11] <Weylsu> Okay, then just replace the .jar file?
#969 [14:11] <Morrolan> In the folder which VoxelHead told you about is another folder called 'bin'. Replace the 'minecraft.jar' file in that 'bin' folder with the one you downloaded.
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#971 [14:12] <Aburge> hello?
#972 [14:12] <tyteen4a03> hi
#973 [14:12] <Aburge> can u help me
#974 [14:12] <tyteen4a03> ??> Aburge ask
#975 [14:12] <VoxelHead> Aburge: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#976 [14:12] <VoxelHead> Aburge: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#977 [14:12] <tyteen4a03> in other news: Sparknote, y u descibe all organs and systems in one page
#978 [14:13] <Weylsu> ??windows/.minecraft
#979 [14:13] <Aburge> well i need help because the minecraft lan option wont work and me and my sister are in the same room
#980 [14:13] <tyteen4a03> ??> Weylsu win/.minectaft
#981 [14:13] <tyteen4a03> ??> Weylsu win/.minecraft
#982 [14:13] <VoxelHead> Weylsu: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#983 [14:14] <tyteen4a03> Aburge, are both of you on the same version of Minecraft?
#984 [14:14] <Aburge> yes
#985 [14:14] <Aburge> 1.4.6
#986 [14:14] <tyteen4a03> Aburge, what happens when one of you open your world to LAN?
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#988 [14:15] <Aburge> it shows up but when im going to hers or shes going to mines it takes forever and says timed out connection
#989 [14:15] <tyteen4a03> Aburge, do you have any security softwares on the server, such as antiviruses or firewalls?
#990 [14:16] <Aburge> idk its my dads computer
#991 [14:16] <forkleft350> i am having ytoulbe getting on to the game and it did not download to my computer
#992 [14:16] <tyteen4a03> ??> forkleft350 ask/wtf
#993 [14:16] <VoxelHead> forkleft350: (ask/wtf) Please form your question in the form of a question. Whatever you just said was unclear.
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#995 [14:16] <tyteen4a03> Aburge, can you check? some examples include AVG, McAfee, Norton, Avast, Microsoft Security Essentials, ZoneAlarm, etc
#996 [14:16] <Aburge> and my sisters has a computer but it takes a long time
#997 [14:17] <forkleft350> i tryed to download the game to my computer and it did not load
#998 [14:17] <tyteen4a03> forkleft350, you downloaded it from minecraft.net/download, right?
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#1000 [14:17] <forkleft350> yes
#1001 [14:17] <Aburge> i have norton
#1002 [14:17] <tyteen4a03> forkleft350, what happens when you open Minecraft.exe?
#1003 [14:17] <tyteen4a03> Aburge, uninstall it
#1004 [14:18] <forkleft350> it does come up
#1005 [14:18] <Aburge> well im on my dads computer
#1006 [14:18] <forkleft350> it dosent come up
#1007 [14:18] <tyteen4a03> Aburge, Norton breaks Minecraft's networking abilities, and the only way to fix it would be to uninstall it
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#1009 [14:18] <tyteen4a03> ??> forkleft350 win/dxdiag/bat
#1010 [14:18] <VoxelHead> forkleft350: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1011 [14:18] <VoxelHead> forkleft350: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1012 [14:18] <Aburge> ok
#1013 [14:18] <tyteen4a03> forkleft350, please follow the directions mentioned by VoxelHead
#1014 [14:18] <Morrolan> Calinou - MiB now. :)
#1015 [14:18] <Aburge> let me tell my dad
#1016 [14:18] <Aburge> cbrb
#1017 [14:19] <Aburge> typo
#1018 [14:19] <Aburge> brb
#1019 [14:19] * tyteen4a03 hates double spaces
#1019 [14:19] <Morrolan> Haha.
#1020 [14:19] <forkleft350> ok im doing it now
#1021 [14:19] <Aburge> darn it!
#1022 [14:20] <Aburge> he said i cant uninstall norton
#1023 [14:20] <Aburge> but thx for the help
#1024 [14:20] <tyteen4a03> Aburge, no problem
#1025 [14:20] <Aburge> thx bye
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#1029 [14:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> no-one can uninstall norton
#1030 [14:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> it's gained sentienec
#1031 [14:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> ce*
#1032 [14:21] <Calinou> Morrolan: ok thanks
#1033 [14:21] <tyteen4a03> WhereIsMySpoon, uh oh
#1034 [14:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> tyteen4a03: ?
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#1037 [14:21] <tyteen4a03> WhereIsMySpoon, uh oh to the setient Norton
#1038 [14:21] <Morrolan> Calinou - Not sure why I left it as Bytes initally. It's not as if converting it would be much work. And it definitely makes it easier to read.
#1039 [14:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> ic
#1040 [14:22] <Morrolan> Though, maybe I should have gone with 'MB'. Now we'll get people asking what on earth 'MiB' is. :P
#1041 [14:22] <tyteen4a03> yes, because people are stupid
#1042 [14:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> midibytes, surely
#1043 [14:22] <Morrolan> Yep, they make music when played in VLC. :)
#1044 [14:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> microbytes?
#1045 [14:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> monobytes?
#1046 [14:22] <Morrolan> Men in Black. D:
#1047 [14:22] <tyteen4a03> moneyboys
#1048 [14:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
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#1050 [14:23] <Morrolan> Hmm, our topic used to be longer, didn't it?
#1051 [14:24] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, yes, it had "disable metro" on it
#1052 [14:24] <Morrolan> Ah. :)
#1053 [14:24] <forcepalm02> all right I have gotten into my Router and forwarded a port for the server
#1054 [14:24] <Morrolan> Well, it's nicer that way. Though I did wonder how you managed to cut it in half.
#1055 [14:24] <forcepalm02> I'm not 100% sure it's right, but i'm pretty sure
#1056 [14:24] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, the best way to check would be to connect to your own server ;)
#1057 [14:24] <Morrolan> There's one way to try it. :)
#1058 [14:24] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, somebody else did
#1059 [14:25] <forcepalm02> I suppose it would be a good way to check
#1060 [14:25] <Morrolan> (There's also AuBot, if you're afraid your server's going to bite you. :))
#1061 [14:27] <forcepalm02> tyteen, same result'
#1062 [14:28] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, grab your new IP and try
#1063 [14:28] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, make sure you're grabbing the one on the server
#1064 [14:28] <forcepalm02> what mean you?
#1065 [14:29] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, on the server computer go to whatismyip.org
#1066 [14:29] <tyteen4a03> *com
#1067 [14:29] <forcepalm02> i did copied it and put it in the direct connect field in multiplayer
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#1069 [14:29] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, so... IP please?
#1070 [14:30] <forcepalm02> oh sorry here: 70.191.164.235
#1071 [14:30] <tyteen4a03> !check 70.191.164.235
#1072 [14:30] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, shut down the server, change the port to 25500
#1073 [14:30] <forcepalm02> ok
#1074 [14:31] <forcepalm02> done, now restart it?
#1075 [14:31] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, yes
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#1077 [14:32] <forcepalm02> done, it might take a second to do something though
#1078 [14:32] <forcepalm02> should be fine now
#1079 [14:33] <tyteen4a03> !check 70.191.164.235:25500
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#1081 [14:33] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, oh right, shoot
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#1083 [14:33] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, can you paste your result of your ipconfig on the server to pastebin?
#1084 [14:34] <forcepalm02> what mean you oh wise wizard?
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#1086 [14:34] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, run an ipconfig and paste whatever it says onto pastebin.com
#1087 [14:35] <forcepalm02> oh ok
#1088 [14:35] <forcepalm02> http://pastebin.com/srw4AWar
#1089 [14:35] <tyteen4a03> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OiCYNDNV9k
#1090 [14:35] <VoxelHead> Tweenchronic-Skip Rope (Official Video). ( by patomuzic )
#1091 [14:35] <pauldersgate> my friend cant log into my server it says cant reach server or connection timed out. lil help?
#1092 [14:36] <tyteen4a03> friday successor incoming
#1093 [14:36] <tyteen4a03> pauldersgate, has the connection worked before?
#1094 [14:36] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, does the server run java 7 or 6?
#1095 [14:36] <forcepalm02> 7
#1096 [14:36] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, ....d'oh
#1097 [14:36] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, uninstall every version of java 7 and use java 6
#1098 [14:36] <forcepalm02> i need 6 i presume
#1099 [14:36] <forcepalm02> yup
#1100 [14:37] <forcepalm02> ok
#1101 [14:37] <pauldersgate> yeah, it worked for me im logged in
#1102 [14:37] <forcepalm02> where can i get it, it's not on the java.com/downloads page
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#1104 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> ??> forcepalm02 java/1.6
#1105 [14:37] <VoxelHead> forcepalm02: (java/1.6) To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1106 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> pauldersgate, how is your server set up
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#1108 [14:38] <forcepalm02> I'm getting both the 32 and 64 bit versions
#1109 [14:38] <Weylsu> I'm helping someone downgrade from 1.4.6 to 1.4.5. They have the 1.4.5 jar file, now what does she have to do with this file? replace it with the old one?
#1110 [14:38] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, don't
#1111 [14:38] <forcepalm02> which should i get
#1112 [14:38] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, get the 64bit, and it doesn't install then grab the 32bit
#1113 [14:39] <tyteen4a03> Weylsu, go to .minecraft/bin and replace the minecraft.jar inside with thr 1.4.5 jar
#1114 [14:39] <forcepalm02> so any ideas as to why java 7 doesn't work w/ servers?
#1115 [14:40] <pauldersgate> whitelist is false, i portforwarded 25565, and i can log in
#1116 [14:40] <tyteen4a03> pauldersgate, which IP did you give her?
#1117 [14:40] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, Java 7 likes to bind with ipv6 instead of ipv45
#1118 [14:40] <tyteen4a03> *4
#1119 [14:40] <forcepalm02> well
#1120 [14:40] <pauldersgate> the one linked to the server, like on my motem
#1121 [14:41] <tyteen4a03> pauldersgate, which is?
#1122 [14:41] <Weylsu> Thank you tyteen4a03
#1123 [14:41] <forcepalm02> ok got everyhting you asked done
#1124 [14:41] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, it should work now, remember to change the port back to 25565
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#1126 [14:41] <forcepalm02> k
#1127 [14:42] <pauldersgate> 192.168.1.254
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#1129 [14:42] <tyteen4a03> pauldersgate, that is your internal IP
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#1131 [14:42] <tyteen4a03> pauldersgate, it will not work on her computer
#1132 [14:42] <pauldersgate> no, that is my router/motem's ip
#1133 [14:43] <new> hi channel. i'm looking for info how to make a fast texture pack for minecraft (that's still goodlooking, of course ;) )
#1134 [14:43] <tyteen4a03> pauldersgate, you should be giving her external IP
#1135 [14:43] <tyteen4a03> ??> new mods
#1136 [14:43] <VoxelHead> new: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1137 [14:43] <VoxelHead> new: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1138 [14:43] <pauldersgate> how i find that?
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#1140 [14:44] <forcepalm02> tyteen, moment of truth, i'm starting it up
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#1142 [14:44] <tyteen4a03> pauldersgate, have you port forwarded the ports?
#1143 [14:44] <new> i'm not sure i'm getting that right. voxel, did you just read the rules to me?
#1144 [14:44] <pauldersgate> i think so
#1145 [14:45] <tyteen4a03> new, VoxelHead is a bot, and it just did
#1146 [14:45] <tyteen4a03> pauldersgate, go to whatismyip.com to find out your external IP
#1147 [14:45] <tyteen4a03> pauldersgate, go to whatismyip.com to find out your external IP
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#1150 [14:45] <new> okay. but i'm not looking for mods, i'm looking for links providing me with information how to improve texture packs for speed.
#1151 [14:45] <pauldersgate> 71.29.112.239
#1152 [14:46] <tyteen4a03> new, texturepacks is a kind of mod, and unfortunately I do not have anything on hand
#1153 [14:46] <tyteen4a03> !check 71.29.112.239
#1154 [14:46] <Morrolan> How would you improve a texturepack, new?
#1155 [14:47] <tyteen4a03> pauldersgate, give this IP to her:
#1156 [14:47] <tyteen4a03> ugh
#1157 [14:47] <pauldersgate> thx soooo much :) :)
#1158 [14:47] <Morrolan> The one thing you can do to imporove performance is use a low-res pack instead of a high-res one.
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#1160 [14:47] <tyteen4a03> yeah you get the idea
#1161 [14:47] <new> so it is. okay. thats sad, you not having a hint for me.
#1162 [14:47] <forcepalm02> tyteen, i may have something wrong, b/c it's still not there
#1163 [14:47] <new> yeah, i DID get that.
#1164 [14:47] <new> :)
#1165 [14:47] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, OK, time to call in the big guns I am afraid
#1166 [14:48] <tyteen4a03> ??> forcepalm02 win/portlisten/tbf
#1167 [14:48] <tyteen4a03> fff
#1168 [14:48] <tyteen4a03> ??> forcepalm02 porttest/tbf
#1169 [14:48] <new> i'm just trying to find out if i can sort of combine 8-bit-pngs and say, 7 or 6 bit pngs. make things like chicken more unicolored, make leaf transparent and so on - and will it improve speed?
#1170 [14:48] <VoxelHead> forcepalm02: (porttest/tbf) Port tests softwares can be used to determine whether security softwares are blocking the use of certain ports.
#1171 [14:48] <VoxelHead> forcepalm02: (porttest/tbf) http://is.gd/mc_portlisten http://is.gd/mc_porttest
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#1173 [14:49] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, download the former link
#1174 [14:49] <tyteen4a03> !check
#1175 [14:49] <forcepalm02> i did
#1176 [14:49] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, extract it to somewhere, and open Attacker.exe
#1177 [14:50] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, make sure you run it as admin
#1178 [14:50] <new> (i have a not-so-much-as-high-end laptop over here my daughter is using. and she's got at most 20 fps while we are all playing together. so BEFORE changing that laptop back to a minimal linux/debian installation, i'd like to give her all speed that old thing will work out.
#1179 [14:50] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, then, click on the Port button and remove every port in there
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#1181 [14:51] <tyteen4a03> new, changing a 8bit texture to a 7bit or 6bit one won't really improve anything
#1182 [14:51] <forcepalm02> both in the upd and tcp?
#1183 [14:51] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, yes
#1184 [14:51] <new> so why wouldn't it?
#1185 [14:51] <forcepalm02> all gone
#1186 [14:51] <tyteen4a03> new, most you can do is turn off all fancy graphics, render distance to low, etc
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#1188 [14:52] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, choose the TCP radio button and add 25565 in it
#1189 [14:52] <new> yeah, i did that - in fact she's using the default theme, so she can keep up. but that looks.. ugly.
#1190 [14:52] <forcepalm02> radio button?
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#1192 [14:52] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, radio = circle
#1193 [14:52] <forcepalm02> oh her du dur
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#1195 [14:53] <new> i already gave the processes higher priority, but i have to repeat that everytime she plays. and nevertheless, she's lagging.
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#1198 [14:53] <tyteen4a03> new, well there isn't really any way out, but you can try installing optifine to see if it improves performance
#1199 [14:53] <forcepalm02> added
#1200 [14:53] <new> i did it already. gave her about 5 - 10 fps, at most.
#1201 [14:53] <tyteen4a03> new, if the processor has less than 2GB of RAM and less than 2.5GHz of CPU clock speed, it proabably won't run minecraft well
#1202 [14:53] <new> updated the graphics driver, too, turned off music.
#1203 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, now click OK and go back to the main window
#1204 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, then click Start
#1205 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, then click Start
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#1207 [14:54] <forcepalm02> now what?
#1208 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, is it started?
#1209 [14:54] <forcepalm02> \yes
#1210 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, now wait and look for a connection from 68.60.54.22
#1211 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> !check ip70-191-164-235.pn.at.cox.net
#1212 [14:55] <forcepalm02> where do i look for this?
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#1214 [14:55] <new> as i said... not-so-high-end as in older than two years.
#1215 [14:55] <worldmc> hello people
#1216 [14:55] <tyteen4a03> new, do you have any specific specifications we can look at?
#1217 [14:55] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, it should now show up in the Addresses section
#1218 [14:55] <forcepalm02> when i hit start, it closed out
#1219 [14:55] <new> what would you need besides ram and ghz?
#1220 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, go to the taskbar and find the icon
#1221 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> new, graphics card
#1222 [14:56] <forcepalm02> it isn't there
#1223 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, what isn't there?
#1224 [14:56] <forcepalm02> the program
#1225 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> I mean the icon trays
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#1228 [14:56] <forcepalm02> well ok there it is
#1229 [14:57] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, open it back up, is there any IP addresses in the Addresses section?
#1230 [14:57] <forcepalm02> no
#1231 [14:57] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, your router or your ISP is blocking the connection then
#1232 [14:57] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, turn off your router firewall
#1233 [14:57] <forcepalm02> my router goes through another router and a modem
#1234 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, it's the modem then
#1235 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> new, or even better, give us the model of the laptop
#1236 [14:58] <forcepalm02> that's blocking it
#1237 [14:58] <forcepalm02> ?
#1238 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, correct
#1239 [14:58] <forcepalm02> so how do i resolve this
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#1241 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, this will be tricky... teamviewer maybe?
#1242 [14:58] <new> hp compaq 615 amd athlon x2 dual core, 2,2 ghz 2,74 ram
#1243 [14:58] <forcepalm02> ?
#1244 [14:59] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: you think you can get his wan IP from his router?
#1245 [14:59] <new> ati radeon hd 3200 graphics
#1246 [14:59] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, I want his router's IP
#1247 [14:59] <tyteen4a03> since I don't know how E2400 works teamviewer might be faster in the long run
#1248 [15:00] <forcepalm02> it's an E4200 in case that matters
#1249 [15:00] <new> tyteen, as far as i know "shieldsup.com" will give you all open ports and your wan ip.
#1250 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> oh well :P
#1251 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> new, I want the router's IP from the eye of the modem
#1252 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> i.e double NAT
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#1254 [15:01] <new> make a traceroute, then?
#1255 [15:01] <tyteen4a03> new, google is giving me various results about this model's spec
#1256 [15:01] <tyteen4a03> ??> new win/dxdiag/bat
#1257 [15:01] <VoxelHead> new: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1258 [15:01] <VoxelHead> new: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1259 [15:01] <new> i told you the specs
#1260 [15:01] <forcepalm02> i feel like you're captain kirk taking controll of the enterprise and ordering around new and conversing with lutzee
#1261 [15:01] <forcepalm02> control*
#1262 [15:01] <new> thanks, already have it - thats standard windows.
#1263 [15:02] <tyteen4a03> new, I might have missed your spec, hang on
#1264 [15:02] <tyteen4a03> new, 2,74 RAM?
#1265 [15:02] <new> yes
#1266 [15:02] <forcepalm02> i have 8 G
#1267 [15:02] <tyteen4a03> new, 2.74GB of RAM?
#1268 [15:02] <new> so you will give some to me, then? :D
#1269 [15:02] <forcepalm02> and 3.6 ghz
#1270 [15:03] <forcepalm02> nope
#1271 [15:03] <new> directx 9, if that is of interest...
#1272 [15:03] <forcepalm02> i would if it were possible and i wanted to
#1273 [15:03] <tyteen4a03> new, Minecraft uses OpenGL
#1274 [15:04] <tyteen4a03> new, the model looks 32bit to me
#1275 [15:04] <tyteen4a03> Windows 7?
#1276 [15:04] <new> well, you gave me dxdiag, that diagnoses directx :D
#1277 [15:04] <new> no, it still runs xp.
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#1279 [15:04] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, ok, try this: Go to your router administration panel, find a tab called Information (should be the last tab) and tell me the router's IP
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#1281 [15:04] <new> it is 32bit. it IS older than 2 years.
#1282 [15:04] <tyteen4a03> new, dxdiag generates your computer information in a nice txt file
#1283 [15:05] <tyteen4a03> new, have you tried allocating more RAM to Minecraft?
#1284 [15:05] <tyteen4a03> ??> new win/client/moreram
#1285 [15:05] <VoxelHead> new: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#1286 [15:05] <VoxelHead> new: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
#1287 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> by the way, I don't know who Captain Kirk is, but sounds like Star War/Trek to me
#1288 [15:06] <new> you do not KNOW captain JAMES TIBERIUS KIRK?
#1289 [15:06] <new> somehow, i lost all faith in you. :D
#1290 [15:06] <new> startrek first generation.
#1291 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> new, I have never watched any of those
#1292 [15:06] <new> thanks for the batch, i will try that.
#1293 [15:07] <forcepalm02> no information tab, but in the status tab, the IPV4 is 192.168.15.101
#1294 [15:07] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, and the default gateway is?
#1295 [15:07] <forcepalm02> i figured you might ask, it's 192.168.15.1
#1296 [15:07] <new> don't waste your time on them, tyteen, they are WAY off special effects of nowadays.
#1297 [15:07] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, go to 192.168.15.1 in your browser
#1298 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, does it prompt for your username and password?
#1299 [15:08] <forcepalm02> yes
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#1301 [15:09] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, try entering your ISP information in there, or contact your ISP for information on how to get in
#1302 [15:09] <forcepalm02> i'm in
#1303 [15:09] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, what is your modem model?
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#1305 [15:10] <forcepalm02> doesn't say, but it is a linksys as well
#1306 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, should be somewhere around the box
#1307 [15:11] <new> so thanks, i'm off, will try the batch file and if that does not work it is back to ubuntu. ;)
#1308 [15:11] <new> so thanks, i'm off, will try the batch file and if that does not work it is back to ubuntu. ;)
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#1310 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> new, no problem
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#1312 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> fff
#1313 [15:11] <forcepalm02> it's a linksys RT31P2
#1314 [15:12] <MrHotDawg> i am getting a bad video card error.
#1315 [15:12] <Calinou> another user to the ubuntu users archive!
#1316 [15:12] <ALEX_> hi, i am having trouble building stuf in mindcraft, only make holes, can you help me?
#1317 [15:12] <forcepalm02> it's a broadband router
#1318 [15:12] <Calinou> ALEX_: right click with a block in hand
#1319 [15:12] <MrHotDawg> i have updated the drivers, java, etc
#1320 [15:12] <Calinou> (you can't build inside yourself)
#1321 [15:12] <Calinou> ??> MrHotDawg win/dxdiag
#1322 [15:12] <VoxelHead> MrHotDawg: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1323 [15:12] <VoxelHead> MrHotDawg: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1324 [15:12] <MrHotDawg> please help
#1325 [15:12] <Calinou> forcepalm02: 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.0 are the usual router IP addresses :P
#1326 [15:12] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, bat variant might work better
#1327 [15:12] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, double NAT
#1328 [15:12] <Calinou> O_o
#1329 [15:12] <Calinou> oh btw, upnpc ftw
#1330 [15:13] <Calinou> but that's linux only :D
#1331 [15:13] <Calinou> (allows forwarding ports with a command in a terminal)
#1332 [15:13] <ALEX_> thanks, i will try that
#1333 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, eh... I'm not sure what the panel really looks like
#1334 [15:13] <forcepalm02> i can screen cap and paste it somewhere, any ideas for a good place to upload pictures?
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#1336 [15:14] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, imgur
#1337 [15:14] <forcepalm02> ok
#1338 [15:14] <forcepalm02> what info do you need to see?
#1339 [15:14] <MrHotDawg> Here is the link with the info
#1340 [15:14] <MrHotDawg> http://pastebin.com/tBnUKJem
#1341 [15:14] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, what the panel looks like
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#1343 [15:15] <ALEX_> thank you, it works!
#1344 [15:16] <MrHotDawg> <VoxelHead>
#1345 [15:16] <MrHotDawg> <VoxelHead>
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#1347 [15:16] <tyteen4a03> ??> MrHotDawg bot
#1348 [15:16] <VoxelHead> MrHotDawg: (bot) I just type quickly.
#1349 [15:16] <Calinou> MrHotDawg: you have an intel graphics card, that's quite slow for minecraft usually :P
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#1351 [15:16] <Calinou> if you get bad video card drivers then you don't have the latest intel driver
#1352 [15:16] <tyteen4a03> ??> MrHotDawg gpu/intel
#1353 [15:16] <VoxelHead> MrHotDawg: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1354 [15:17] <MrHotDawg> i updated them to the latest
#1355 [15:17] <forcepalm02> here you go, http://imgur.com/Eh3AW i need to go to the bathroom brb
#1356 [15:17] <tyteen4a03> MrHotDawg, how do you know?
#1357 [15:17] <tikker> bad videocard drivers can also be solved by running minecraft with less ram
#1358 [15:17] <MrHotDawg> it is only a year old card
#1359 [15:17] <MrHotDawg> well i went to intel website and they said they were current
#1360 [15:17] <Calinou> tikker|sort_of_afk: nope.avi
#1361 [15:17] <Calinou> also, away nicks are bad
#1362 [15:17] <tikker|sort_of_afk> Calinou yes :p
#1363 [15:18] <Calinou> MrHotDawg: you mean, integrated GPU
#1364 [15:18] <tikker|sort_of_afk> ask keapler
#1365 [15:18] <Calinou> they are probably not, because your IGP can run minecraft just fine (fairly slow) normally
#1366 [15:18] <Calinou> I don't have an intel GPU so I don't know
#1367 [15:18] <tikker|sort_of_afk> he removed his '@' sign for a week because of it
#1368 [15:18] <Calinou> tikker|sort_of_afk: you mean he got deopped? :P
#1369 [15:18] <tikker|sort_of_afk> one said "try running with less ram, that sometimes fixes it"
#1370 [15:19] <tikker|sort_of_afk> then he went "if that works, i'll remove my @ for a week"
#1371 [15:19] <tyteen4a03> "sometimes"
#1372 [15:19] <tikker|sort_of_afk> and it worked :p
#1373 [15:19] <tikker> indeed sometimes
#1374 [15:19] <tyteen4a03> I'd leave it as a last resort
#1375 [15:19] <tikker> but its worth a try
#1376 [15:19] <forcepalm02> i'm back
#1377 [15:19] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, I would really recommend directly plugging in your server computer into the modem
#1378 [15:20] <forcepalm02> i can't, it's on the complete opposite side of the house
#1379 [15:20] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, longer cables? :D
#1380 [15:20] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, anyways back on the subject, go to Applications and Gaming -> DMZ
#1381 [15:21] <forcepalm02> it would be near impossible to run even more cables through the wall
#1382 [15:21] <forcepalm02> ok
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#1384 [15:21] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, in the DMZ panel enter 101 into the box (that's your router's IP) into the box and save
#1385 [15:21] <Garmeer> NANANANA
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#1387 [15:22] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, I found this: http://upnp-portmapper.sourceforge.net/
#1388 [15:22] <Garmeer> HI!
#1389 [15:22] <tyteen4a03> hi
#1390 [15:23] <Garmeer> HI EVERYBODY
#1391 [15:23] <worldmc> hello
#1392 [15:23] <Garmeer> I HAVE A MINECrAFT QUESTIN
#1393 [15:23] <Garmeer> sorry caps lock
#1394 [15:23] <tyteen4a03> Garmeer, yes?\
#1395 [15:23] <Garmeer> what?
#1396 [15:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> Garmeer: ask the question
#1397 [15:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#1398 [15:24] <Garmeer> oh, lol
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#1400 [15:24] <Garmeer> how do I make a fance gate?
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#1403 [15:24] <Garmeer> fenc*
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#1405 [15:24] <Garmeer> fnce*
#1406 [15:24] <Garmeer> fencce*
#1407 [15:24] <tyteen4a03> take your time
#1408 [15:24] <Garmeer> fwnce*
#1409 [15:24] <JBridge> Like I was saying, this only happens whe I exit the area.
#1410 [15:25] <Garmeer> fgnce*
#1411 [15:25] <worldmc> okay
#1412 [15:25] <JBridge> Or when I exit the game altogether.
#1413 [15:25] <Garmeer> fhNcE*
#1414 [15:25] <forcepalm02> turns out, having it reset your internet temporarily to restart isn't a good idea for irc
#1415 [15:25] <tyteen4a03> JBridge, you were saying what?
#1416 [15:25] <forcepalm02> tyteen what now?
#1417 [15:25] <Garmeer> fence.
#1418 [15:25] <JBridge> It's happened to me twice, and both times just after I opened a door via a pressure pad.
#1419 [15:25] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, well IRC stands for Internet Relay Chat
#1420 [15:25] <Calinou> tyteen4a03: trying it right now 8)
#1421 [15:25] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, try turning on the server again and we'll try
#1422 [15:25] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, sounds like a good windows alt
#1423 [15:25] <forcepalm02> yup it sure does ol' buddy ol' pal
#1424 [15:25] <Garmeer> spoon, what is teh ansir?
#1425 [15:25] <JBridge> Also, I sometimes experience audio stutter when riding in a minecart.
#1426 [15:25] <Garmeer> anser*
#1427 [15:25] <Garmeer> answir*
#1428 [15:26] <Garmeer> ansier*
#1429 [15:26] <Thrae> JBridge: Are you using 32-bit or 64-bit Java?
#1430 [15:26] <worldmc> garmeer. maybe handy to keep your keyboard on the desk instead of somewhere else . makes typing a little easier
#1431 [15:26] <Garmeer> I dont have a keyboard
#1432 [15:26] <JBridge> 32-bit, according to my video options.
#1433 [15:26] <Garmeer> or fingers
#1434 [15:26] <JBridge> Where can I get the 64-bit version?
#1435 [15:26] <worldmc> we see that
#1436 [15:26] <tyteen4a03> Garmeer, mind typing?
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#1438 [15:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> Garmeer: 6 sticks arranged in a 2 up by 3 across rectangle
#1439 [15:26] <tyteen4a03> ??> JBridge java/1.6
#1440 [15:26] <VoxelHead> JBridge: (java/1.6) To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1441 [15:26] <Garmeer> I type by smaashing my face into the keyboard
#1442 [15:26] <JBridge> Danke.
#1443 [15:26] <Garmeer> what kind of rectangle?
#1444 [15:26] <forcepalm02> what keyboard?
#1445 [15:26] <tyteen4a03> Garmeer, that is very high accuracy if you were typing using your face
#1446 [15:27] <worldmc> lol
#1447 [15:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> Garmeer: stop trolling and get out
#1448 [15:27] <Thrae> tyteen4a03: *Still* recommending Java 6?
#1449 [15:27] <tyteen4a03> Thrae, have to unfortunately
#1450 [15:27] <mrpalmer> can i download minecraft onto a google acer chromebook?
#1451 [15:27] <Garmeer> Im not troling!*
#1452 [15:27] <JBridge> Will this fix both my freezing and audio stutter problems?
#1453 [15:27] <Garmeer> trolin*
#1454 [15:27] <Garmeer> rolin*
#1455 [15:27] <tyteen4a03> still have to throw out java/1.7/ipv6 occasionally
#1456 [15:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> you're hilarious
#1457 [15:27] <Garmeer> trolingg*
#1458 [15:27] <worldmc> we see that you arent yeah
#1459 [15:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> (you arent)
#1460 [15:27] <worldmc> but whats the problem now?
#1461 [15:27] <Garmeer> I'm nott!
#1462 [15:27] <Garmeer> noyt*
#1463 [15:27] <Garmeer> tot*
#1464 [15:27] <Garmeer> rot*
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#1466 [15:28] <forcepalm02> it's up tyteen
#1467 [15:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
#1468 [15:28] <worldmc> lol
#1469 [15:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> winning
#1470 [15:28] <Calinou> tyteen4a03: just tried, it works fine :)
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#1472 [15:28] <JBridge> Also, is there a way to enable borderless windowed mode?
#1473 [15:28] <tyteen4a03> !check ip70-191-164-235.pn.at.cox.net
#1474 [15:28] <Garmeer> I'm not going to be bad anymore
#1475 [15:28] <Garmeer> I will be good now.
#1476 [15:28] <worldmc> god
#1477 [15:28] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, OK, can you go back to attacker?
#1478 [15:28] <tyteen4a03> *good
#1479 [15:28] <forcepalm02> ok
#1480 [15:28] <worldmc> ty
#1481 [15:28] <tyteen4a03> np
#1482 [15:28] <Garmeer> MEATLOAF
#1483 [15:28] <Garmeer> MEATLOAF
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#1485 [15:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah well
#1486 [15:29] <forcepalm02> now?
#1487 [15:29] <tyteen4a03> !check ip70-191-164-235.pn.at.cox.net
#1488 [15:29] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, anything in the Addresses section?
#1489 [15:29] <Thrae> tyteen4a03: Mojang still hasn't embraced Java 7? Ohhh the ipv6 problem. Well, I'd just throw in the caveat about ipv6 on Java 7 with the bot link. Example: "blah blah Note: If you experience network connectivity issues switching to Java 7, check out java/7/ipv6"
#1490 [15:29] <forcepalm02> nope
#1491 [15:29] <tyteen4a03> Thrae, that would be pretty ineffective
#1492 [15:29] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, something is blocking your connection and I have no friggin idea what is
#1493 [15:30] <Morrolan> Thrae - It'd be sooo easy for Mojang to add a damn fix to the launcher. But nope.
#1494 [15:30] <mrpalmer> can minecraft be downloaded to a google chromebook?
#1495 [15:30] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, and since it was working fine just a few hours ago... hurr durr
#1496 [15:30] <tyteen4a03> mrpalmer, probably not
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#1499 [15:30] <tyteen4a03> mrpalmer, you can however try playing it via minecraft.net/play
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#1501 [15:31] <mrpalmer> is there any tech support for minecraft that could answer this question?
#1502 [15:31] <forcepalm02> the thing that is blocking me is probably another broadband router and a modem
#1503 [15:31] <tyteen4a03> mrpalmer, we are a Mojang-endorsed Technical Support channel
#1504 [15:32] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, it's either the router or the modem
#1505 [15:32] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, and the fact that you have to double NAT is making this difficult
#1506 [15:32] <forcepalm02> probably both knowing how long it's already taken
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#1508 [15:32] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, over an hour and a half
#1509 [15:32] <tyteen4a03> I think
#1510 [15:32] <forcepalm02> more like 2 or 2 and a half
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#1512 [15:33] <tyteen4a03> no idea
#1513 [15:33] <mrpalmer> doesnt minecraft have to be downloaded to play minecraft.net/play?
#1514 [15:33] <tyteen4a03> mrpalmer, if you play via the link it will automatically download
#1515 [15:34] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, does upnp port forwarding programs work with double NAT situations?
#1516 [15:34] <mrpalmer> is there a download cost or is it a monthly cost?
#1517 [15:34] <tyteen4a03> mrpalmer, no
#1518 [15:34] <tikker> minecraft is pay once, play forever
#1519 [15:35] <mrpalmer> ok thanks
#1520 [15:35] <tikker> getting minecraft to run on chromebooks seems like a big pain 0.0
#1521 [15:36] <mrpalmer> why is that?
#1522 [15:36] <tyteen4a03> tikker, eeyup
#1523 [15:36] <Morrolan> The chromebook isn't made for gaming. :)
#1524 [15:37] <tikker> because of chromeOSes ways of doing things :p
#1525 [15:37] <tikker> http://w9jds.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/playing-minecraft-on-your-chromebook.html
#1526 [15:37] <Morrolan> Oh, the OS is doing funny things too? Heh.
#1527 [15:37] <worldmc> mrpalmer. chromebooks are diff os then windows. like they just said
#1528 [15:38] <Morrolan> Huh, I fail to find full specs on Google's site. :S
#1529 [15:38] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, I would try grabbing a laptop, stick it into the modem and run attacker again
#1530 [15:38] <tikker> http://aboutchromebook.com/minecraft-for-chromebook/ is better, it requires some steps and quite some time
#1531 [15:38] <tikker> Morrolan even google fears its own merch :P
#1532 [15:38] <Morrolan> They mention how thin it is every other line, but the rest, nope. :P
#1533 [15:38] <forcepalm02> okay, delete all of the ports and add 25565 to the tcp one?
#1534 [15:39] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, yes
#1535 [15:39] <tikker> but to play minecraft you basically have to jailbrake you chromebook
#1536 [15:39] <tikker> then get java to run
#1537 [15:39] <Morrolan> Oh joy.
#1538 [15:39] <tikker> and then get minecraft to run
#1539 [15:39] <forcepalm02> what will happen to all of the other things on the network?
#1540 [15:39] <worldmc> and have fun when it works
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#1542 [15:39] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, what?
#1543 [15:39] <tikker> there is a secret switch for getting into developer mode :p
#1544 [15:39] <Morrolan> http://www.chromeoslounge.com/cr-48-chrome-notebook/207-google-cr-48-notebook-*full*-hardware-specs.html there we go.
#1545 [15:40] <tikker> under a piece of tape, hidden in the battery compartment
#1546 [15:40] <forcepalm02> what will happen to the other devices on the same network under the modem?
#1547 [15:40] <Morrolan> Well, it's not exactly top-of-the-line.
#1548 [15:40] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, nothing
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#1550 [15:40] <forcepalm02> okay hold on, brb
#1551 [15:40] <tikker> all of them run intel IGPs btw
#1552 [15:40] <Morrolan> Figures. Putting a dedicated GPU into a netbook would be kind of a battery hog.
#1553 [15:41] <clarjon1> hmm
#1554 [15:41] <tyteen4a03> so everybody's here, I guess I can take a rest?
#1555 [15:41] <Morrolan> Nah.
#1556 [15:41] <Morrolan> I'm about to *poof* vanish. *fades away*
#1557 [15:41] <tyteen4a03> D:
#1558 [15:41] <clarjon1> anyone know if mobs can sometimes spawn with enchanted items?
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#1561 [15:41] <clarjon1> or drop them?
#1562 [15:41] <Morrolan> Hope none here has me on Steam. Else you'll soon see "Morrolan is now playing ..."
#1563 [15:41] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, I will hunt you down and drag you back here
#1564 [15:42] <Morrolan> :<
#1565 [15:42] <tyteen4a03> nah jk, too tired to do so
#1566 [15:42] <forcepalm02> can't, any other way to do it tyteen?
#1567 [15:42] <tikker> but if you've hunted him down, how much help can he provide
#1568 [15:42] <tikker> you'd have a body lying around here :P
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#1570 [15:42] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, not really...
#1571 [15:43] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, except all firewalls turned off and stuff like that, I'm out of ideas
#1572 [15:43] <forcepalm02> i'll try that, but now i feel so sad that i can't play w/ my friend
#1573 [15:43] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, also do make sure there's nothing in the port forwarding section in the modem, and the port trigger section in the modem and router
#1574 [15:43] <forcepalm02> :'(
#1575 [15:47] <forcepalm02> what should i put in for the ip address tyteen?
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#1577 [15:48] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, for what?
#1578 [15:48] <forcepalm02> for the server
#1579 [15:49] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, you're trying to do what now?
#1580 [15:49] <forcepalm02> i'm in minecraft, i'm trying to logon to my server, what is my ip address that i should use?
#1581 [15:49] <worldmc> hosted on your pc?
#1582 [15:49] <forcepalm02> yes
#1583 [15:49] <worldmc> then its localhost
#1584 [15:50] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, where is the server and your laptop plugged to?
#1585 [15:50] <tyteen4a03> one in the modem and one in the router?
#1586 [15:50] <tyteen4a03> I don't understand what you're trying to do
#1587 [15:51] <forcepalm02> i don't have a laptop o plug into the modem, the computer is essentially at the lowest part of the communication line
#1588 [15:51] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, so what are you currently trying to do?
#1589 [15:51] <forcepalm02> login to my server from the computer
#1590 [15:51] <forcepalm02> login to my server from the computer
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#1593 [15:52] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, you will either use your external ip or just 127.0.0.1 or localhost
#1594 [15:52] <worldmc> am i right and you have a host pc and the pc that you are on?
#1595 [15:53] <forcepalm02> i have a PC that is connected to a router connected to a router connected to a router connected to modem
#1596 [15:54] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, 3 routers?
#1597 [15:54] <worldmc> ehm
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#1599 [15:54] <worldmc> thats a lot.
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#1601 [15:55] <forcepalm02> maybe 2 maybe 3, not exactly sure, there is a pc that only goes through 1 router and the modem, but it is off limits
#1602 [15:55] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, open cmd, do "tracert minecraft.net"
#1603 [15:55] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, then paste the result on pastebin.com
#1604 [15:56] <forcepalm02> takesa while
#1605 [15:57] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, yes
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#1608 [15:59] <forcepalm02> it's at hop 21
#1609 [15:59] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, Ctrl+c and paste the results
#1610 [15:59] <forcepalm02> it isn't done yet
#1611 [16:00] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, I have enough information
#1612 [16:01] <forcepalm02> http://pastebin.com/tv8wdMnr
#1613 [16:02] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, it sounds like your modem is the cause
#1614 [16:02] <forcepalm02> what about it
#1615 [16:03] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, I would call your ISP and ask them why the modem is blocking port 25565 for no reason
#1616 [16:03] <forcepalm02> is the # on the modem?
#1617 [16:03] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, customer services hotline? probably not
#1618 [16:03] <tyteen4a03> (actually I'm out of ideas, but tracert hints that the modem is a little bit wacky)\
#1619 [16:04] <Calinou> try another port
#1620 [16:04] <Calinou> 2012 was the year of the minecraft blocking :)
#1621 [16:05] <Calinou> try forwarding something (external port, keep the internal port to 25565) like 26323 and see ;)
#1622 [16:05] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, he did try 25500
#1623 [16:06] <tyteen4a03> oh wait, that was before the modem comes into the picture
#1624 [16:06] <Calinou> why do people use several routers at once? :O
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#1626 [16:06] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, because houses
#1627 [16:07] <forcepalm02> several decameters to cover the length of the house
#1628 [16:09] <forcepalm02> so it's a no go on the server then?
#1629 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, now that Calinou and google told me, I have some new ideas
#1630 [16:09] <forcepalm02> like?
#1631 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, from the modem disable DMZ
#1632 [16:09] <forcepalm02> ok
#1633 [16:10] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, then in the modem's port forwarding settings, forward port 1-65535 to 101
#1634 [16:10] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, both TCP and UDP
#1635 [16:10] <forcepalm02> what do you mean port 1-65535?
#1636 [16:10] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, port range 1 to 65535
#1637 [16:11] <forcepalm02> how do i specify 1-65535 to it?
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#1639 [16:11] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, it should have 2 ports for port range
#1640 [16:11] <tyteen4a03> *fields
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#1642 [16:12] <forcepalm02> i'm pretty sure i can't access the modem, i'm accessing the 1st broadband router of probably 2
#1643 [16:13] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, uh
#1644 [16:13] <tyteen4a03> I am now officially confused about your network setup
#1645 [16:13] <forcepalm02> hold on one second
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#1651 [16:16] <NinjaKirby> Is there any major competitors to Apple's iTunes?
#1652 [16:17] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, Google Play
#1653 [16:17] <tyteen4a03> Amazon
#1654 [16:17] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm... good call. I hope iTunes isn't getting exclusive rights to certain popular content.
#1655 [16:18] <forcepalm02> hope you like my mouse drawing skills :) http://imgur.com/ojFQr
#1656 [16:19] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, you and the other player belong to the same LAN?
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#1658 [16:19] <forcepalm02> no no no, he's off at his house
#1659 [16:20] <tyteen4a03> because what you are drawing is your router -> your broadband thingy -> his broadband thingy -> modem -> internet
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#1661 [16:20] <tyteen4a03> nontheless your house is weird
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#1663 [16:20] <forcepalm02> no this is all at my house, this is the network, the other router and PC are for the master suite
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#1666 [16:21] <tyteen4a03> ....?
#1667 [16:21] <NinjaKirby> I wonder if one of those Router's is just a Switch
#1668 [16:21] <tyteen4a03> why does this sound like a hotel
#1669 [16:21] <NinjaKirby> The Kooper Hotel
#1670 [16:22] <NinjaKirby> PINGAS
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#1673 [16:24] <forcepalm02> http://imgur.com/zCwAT
#1674 [16:25] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, congratulations, you now have to quadruple NAT
#1675 [16:25] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, but seriously, disable DHCP for both routers
#1676 [16:25] <forcepalm02> yay
#1677 [16:25] <forcepalm02> how?
#1678 [16:25] <NinjaKirby> I'm sorry, but wat. There must be some misunderstanding about the Hardware, wtf.
#1679 [16:26] <NinjaKirby> Is that a wireless bridge he has in his Room or something? Why...
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#1681 [16:26] <tyteen4a03> ??> forcepalm02 teamviewer
#1682 [16:26] <VoxelHead> forcepalm02: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1683 [16:26] <VoxelHead> forcepalm02: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1684 [16:26] <tyteen4a03> I am really tired of passing information around, teamviewer will be much faster
#1685 [16:27] <forcepalm02> company or personal?
#1686 [16:27] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, personal
#1687 [16:28] <forcepalm02> ok
#1688 [16:28] <forcepalm02> remote access after install?
#1689 [16:28] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, yes
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#1691 [16:28] <NinjaKirby> inb4 the Router's are Switches and the Modem is a combined unit.
#1692 [16:29] <forcepalm02> what should I use for name and password?
#1693 [16:29] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, you should be given a set of ID and password, give them to me using /query tyteen4a03 message
#1694 [16:29] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, I wish it was this simple
#1695 [16:30] <forcepalm02> it wants to define a personal password and computer name, what about that?
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#1697 [16:30] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, ignore all that
#1698 [16:30] <forcepalm02> so don't do that?
#1699 [16:31] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, yes, just cancel and go back to the main screen
#1700 [16:31] <forcepalm02> ok
#1701 [16:32] <Kelz> I have gotten to where I click on download and a pop up says "Minecraft_exe(2) couldnt be downloaded" any thoughts on why?
#1702 [16:32] <tyteen4a03> Kelz, disable Link Scanner in AVG, or just uninstall it
#1703 [16:32] <Kelz> Let me try that
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#1706 [16:35] <nealerich> I just bought minecraft, and after download, cant get any further than the white mojang screen, what do i do?
#1707 [16:35] <tyteen4a03> nealerich, Windows I presume?
#1708 [16:35] <nealerich> mac os
#1709 [16:35] <tyteen4a03> nealerich, what version are you on?
#1710 [16:36] <nealerich> whatever the newest one is, mountain lion?
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#1712 [16:37] <tyteen4a03> nealerich, try using Apple Update to update to the latest graphics driver first
#1713 [16:38] <nealerich> im fairly sure every thing is up to date
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#1715 [16:40] <nealerich> ive downloaded the game several different times, and opened it, and it just continues to get stuck at that mojang screen
#1716 [16:40] <force18> While trying to add a mod, I encountered an error.
#1717 [16:40] <tyteen4a03> ??> force18 mods
#1718 [16:40] <VoxelHead> force18: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1719 [16:40] <VoxelHead> force18: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1720 [16:41] <force18> Sorry, thank you!
#1721 [16:42] <tyteen4a03> nealerich, unfortunately I don't know much about macs
#1722 [16:42] <nealerich> no problem, thank you for the attempt!
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#1725 [16:45] <tyteen4a03> forcepalm02, I am working
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#1730 [16:47] <Kelz> Ok I got the pop up "Minecraft_exe (2) couldn't be downlaoded and I was told to uninstall AVG which I did and it still says couldnt be downloaded
#1731 [16:48] <Kelz> I even turned off all the protection programs I had running and uninstalled the AVG
#1732 [16:52] <tyteen4a03> Kelz, do you have ZoneAlarm firewall?
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#1734 [16:53] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, well to solve all this I have to turn his 2 routers into a bridge
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#1736 [16:53] <Mike_> Hey
#1737 [16:53] <Kelz> No I dont have ZoneAlarm
#1738 [16:53] <Mike_> I am getting this error
#1739 [16:53] <Mike_> Fan someone help
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#1741 [16:53] <Kelz> Good Im not the only one then
#1742 [16:54] <tyteen4a03> Kelz, try downloading it on a different browser
#1743 [16:54] <tyteen4a03> Mike_, what is the error?
#1744 [16:54] <Kelz> How do you do that
#1745 [16:54] <Mike_> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 1/6/13 4:43 PM -- System Details -- Details: Minecraft Version: 1.4.6 Operating System: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java Version: 1.7.0_10, Oracle Corporation Java VM Versio
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#1749 [16:55] <mib_xukmq5> hallo zusammen
#1750 [16:55] <Wavin_> .
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#1752 [16:55] <Mike_> tyteen4a03
#1753 [16:56] <tyteen4a03> Mike_, use pastebin.com
#1754 [16:56] <tyteen4a03> mib_xukmq5, hi
#1755 [16:56] <Wavin_> anyone know how to help with a crash
#1756 [16:56] <Wavin_> hi
#1757 [16:56] <mib_xukmq5> more ram for MC o,o
#1758 [16:56] <mib_xukmq5> you mean MC crashed?
#1759 [16:56] <mib_xukmq5> btw. running out of memory?
#1760 [16:56] <Wavin_> i modded it with gls and optifine
#1761 [16:56] <Wavin_> not running out of memory
#1762 [16:57] <tyteen4a03> ??> Wavin_ mods
#1763 [16:57] <VoxelHead> Wavin_: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1764 [16:57] <VoxelHead> Wavin_: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1765 [16:57] <Kelz> So go to pastebin.com to try and download the game?
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#1767 [16:57] <tyteen4a03> ??> Kelz irc/multitasking
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#1769 [16:57] <VoxelHead> Kelz: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#1770 [16:57] <Mike_> http://pastebin.com/rXVm5Qas
#1771 [16:57] <VoxelHead> Mike_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1772 [16:57] <VoxelHead> Mike_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1773 [16:58] <mib_xukmq5> i don´t know Wav.in sorry..
#1774 [16:58] <mib_xukmq5> i don´t know Wav.in sorry..
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#1779 [17:02] <Mike_> http://pastebin.com/NgVQ7mxn
#1780 [17:02] <Mike_> That is my dxdiag
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#1782 [17:03] <Mike_> tyteen?
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#1786 [17:04] <Mike_> Can someone help me?
#1787 [17:04] <Mike_> I don't know how to update my driver
#1788 [17:04] <worldmc> with what?
#1789 [17:04] <Mike_> http://pastebin.com/NgVQ7mxn
#1790 [17:04] <Kristy> I can get to the download but it always stops at "done loading" . The green bar is not finished and nothing happens?
#1791 [17:04] <Mike_> that is my Dxdiag
#1792 [17:04] <zelda> can't play, it says i need update video driver but i did and nothing happens. Can anyone helps
#1793 [17:05] <Lord_Ralex> Mike_, Control Panel > Display > Settings > Advanced > Troubleshoot
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#1795 [17:05] <Kristy> anyone know how to fix this?
#1796 [17:05] <Lord_Ralex> turn the hardware acceleration down to about half
#1797 [17:06] <worldmc> kristy stop the game and launch it again
#1798 [17:06] <worldmc> then at options do force update
#1799 [17:06] <zelda> i change comp and it doesn't help, some problem
#1800 [17:06] <worldmc> then login
#1801 [17:06] <Lord_Ralex> ??> zelda dxdiag
#1802 [17:06] <Lord_Ralex> -.-
#1803 [17:07] <Mike_> Then what?
#1804 [17:07] <Mike_> It should work?
#1805 [17:07] <Lord_Ralex> ??> zelda win/dxdiag
#1806 [17:07] <VoxelHead> zelda: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1807 [17:07] <VoxelHead> zelda: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1808 [17:07] <zelda> how can i delete my profile to start
#1809 [17:07] <Lord_Ralex> Mike_, try it
#1810 [17:07] <Lord_Ralex> it seems to be a fix to it for those types
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#1812 [17:07] <Lord_Ralex> types as in the same problem and similar specs
#1813 [17:08] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, Control thing will not help
#1814 [17:08] <tyteen4a03> Mike_, I am reading your dxdiag
#1815 [17:08] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, how so?
#1816 [17:08] <Kelz> @tyteen4a03--Well weve paid for the card and added an account and entered the redeem code and it just says couldnt be downloaded
#1817 [17:08] <tyteen4a03> Kelz, what happens when you play via minecraft.net/play?
#1818 [17:08] <tyteen4a03> Mike_, your computer is too old to play minecraft
#1819 [17:09] <Mike_> Lord Ralex's thing worked!
#1820 [17:09] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, say again :P
#1821 [17:09] <Mike_> It loaded up
#1822 [17:09] <Mike_> No more error!
#1823 [17:09] <Lord_Ralex> (still never understood why it worked)
#1824 [17:09] <Mike_> Will I have to do this every time I load it up?
#1825 [17:10] <tyteen4a03> Mike_, your computer is way below the minimum requirements for Minecraft, and thus will load very slowly
#1826 [17:10] <Kristy> thank you so much! worked like a charm
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#1829 [17:10] <worldmc> oh okay
#1830 [17:10] <worldmc> thats easy
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#1834 [17:11] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Nightmare, ah I see why
#1835 [17:11] <Kelz> @tytenn4a03- I got it thank you!
#1836 [17:11] <denco> minecraft wont play. screen goes black nothing
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#1839 [17:12] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, I see now
#1840 [17:12] <force18> i try to get on minecraft and it keeps saying fatal error occurred (4): /users/______0212/library/application support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar (no such file or directory)
#1841 [17:12] <tyteen4a03> ??> force18 forceupdate
#1842 [17:12] <VoxelHead> force18: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1843 [17:12] <VoxelHead> force18: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1844 [17:12] <worldmc> denco?
#1845 [17:12] <force18> i did
#1846 [17:12] <tyteen4a03> ??> force18 mac/reinst
#1847 [17:12] <VoxelHead> force18: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1848 [17:13] <VoxelHead> force18: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1849 [17:13] <tyteen4a03> Intel's GPU is way too sucky to carry out hardware acceleration, so turning off hardware acceleration will give the job back to the CPU
#1850 [17:13] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, ahh
#1851 [17:13] <tyteen4a03> well Mike_ can enjoy his 1fps minecraft
#1852 [17:13] <worldmc> lol
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#1854 [17:13] <worldmc> denco what did you do before hand? installing mods?
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#1856 [17:14] <monkeybutt> my game crashes when i die.
#1857 [17:14] <denco> no just trying to get it running. bought the game, downloaded it , hit run and nothing
#1858 [17:14] <monkeybutt> i cannot respawn
#1859 [17:14] <monkeybutt> help please
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#1862 [17:16] <worldmc> did you try force update denco? launch the launche>options>force update>done>login
#1863 [17:16] <denco> will try
#1864 [17:16] <force18> thank you so much
#1865 [17:16] <worldmc> and monkeybutt are you playing vanila?
#1866 [17:17] <monkeybutt> yes
#1867 [17:18] <worldmc> ehm guys i dont know where that error test bat thingy is. tyteen what do you think about it?
#1868 [17:19] <mib_xukmq5> schönen Abend euch noch / bye, nice evening together :)
#1869 [17:19] <mib_xukmq5> schönen Abend euch noch / bye, nice evening together :)
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#1871 [17:20] <worldmc> i got no clue then other then restarting the game monkeybutt
#1872 [17:20] <worldmc> and retry
#1873 [17:20] <monkeybutt> this has been happenning for a month now. i have to make sure i copy my save file as backup
#1874 [17:21] <worldmc> so if it happens your saves are screwt aswell?
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#1880 [17:22] <Savanna> Hi I was wondering why minecraft demo doesn't work on my computer
#1881 [17:22] <tyteen4a03> ??> Savanna demo
#1882 [17:22] <VoxelHead> Savanna: (demo) You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
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#1884 [17:22] <monkeybutt> yea. if i die, game over. totally
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#1886 [17:24] <worldmc> ??> help
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#1888 [17:25] <worldmc> tyteen4a03 could you help monkeybutt? i dont know what the problem is. guessing chunck corruption
#1889 [17:26] <tyteen4a03> monkeybutt, does it happen on a new world?
#1890 [17:26] <monkeybutt> on minute , i will try
#1891 [17:27] <tyteen4a03> I have been sitting here for 5 hours or more now, I think I need a break
#1892 [17:27] <worldmc> im going to sleep. see ya guys
#1893 [17:28] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, only 5 hours .-.
#1894 [17:28] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, when you have to sit through more than 5 hours straight without doing anything else
#1895 [17:28] <tyteen4a03> you get the idea
#1896 [17:28] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, i do
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#1898 [17:28] <tyteen4a03> welcome to the club? :P
#1899 [17:29] <Lord_Ralex> i need a new chair for it though, this one has no back support
#1900 [17:29] <tyteen4a03> I want a more comfy one
#1901 [17:29] <monkeybutt> yes, happened on new world
#1902 [17:30] <denco> once i get the game running, how do i get an icon on the desktop to open tyhe game? do i have to download it each time?
#1903 [17:30] <tyteen4a03> ??> monkeybutt win/reinst/bat
#1904 [17:30] <VoxelHead> monkeybutt: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1905 [17:30] <VoxelHead> monkeybutt: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1906 [17:30] <tyteen4a03> denco, download Minecraft.exe onto your desktop and use it to play MC
#1907 [17:33] <denco> its working, thanks
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#1910 [17:36] <tyteen4a03> !check ip70-191-164-235.pn.at.cox.net
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#1916 [17:42] <forcepalm02> after what seemed like the worst panic attack i'm back
#1917 [17:42] <forcepalm02> i thought the internet might not come back on
#1918 [17:42] <forcepalm02> nope, had to hard reset
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#1926 [17:50] <monkeybutt> thanks, i also manually erased the .minecraft directory. now it runs good. thanks. cya.
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#1928 [17:51] <tyteen4a03> !check ip70-191-164-235.pn.at.cox.net
#1929 [17:52] <tyteen4a03> !check ip70-191-164-235.pn.at.cox.net:58576
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#1934 [17:54] <tyteen4a03> !check ip70-191-164-235.pn.at.cox.net
#1935 [17:57] <tyteen4a03> !check 70.191.164.235
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#1941 [18:01] <Kyle> I just purchased minecraft through majong account. I can't get back to create a username so I can play...help anyone, please??
#1942 [18:01] <Kyle> I just purchased minecraft through majong account. I can't get back to create a username so I can play...help anyone, please??
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#1956 [18:11] <tyteen4a03> !check 70.191.164.235:25635
#1957 [18:13] <tyteen4a03> anybody knows VPN setup here?
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#1971 [19:12] <SHD209> i am still getting a black screen when i log on!!!
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#1973 [19:14] <SHD209> helloo!? anyone?
#1974 [19:16] <Calinou> SHD209: elaborate please?
#1975 [19:16] <Calinou> what operating system do you use? what antivirus if any? if using avg disable "link scanner"
#1976 [19:16] <hrc568> system said i need to purchase mindcraft but i already have paid for it and played it
#1977 [19:17] <Calinou> hrc568: huh?
#1978 [19:17] <Calinou> system?
#1979 [19:17] <SHD209> i have not been able to fully get the game...i registered, got an error msg about a bad video card, did a patch, downloaded new drivers, still nothing...someone on here helped me yesterday but still cant get on
#1980 [19:18] <SHD209> im running windows 7
#1981 [19:19] <Calinou> SHD209: did a patch?
#1982 [19:19] <Calinou> ??> SHD209 win/dxdiag
#1983 [19:19] <VoxelHead> SHD209: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1984 [19:19] <VoxelHead> SHD209: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1985 [19:19] <SHD209> did that yesterday...ned it again?
#1986 [19:19] <Calinou> just give me the link to the paste if you have it
#1987 [19:20] <hrc568> have played game numerous times since i purchased it some time ago, had to change my password today and now it tells me i have to buy it to change skins
#1988 [19:20] <SHD209> voxelhead i had u first then lutzee
#1989 [19:20] <Calinou> hrc568: are you logged in?
#1990 [19:20] <Calinou> with the correct account?
#1991 [19:21] <hrc568> yes
#1992 [19:21] <hrc568> only have 1 account
#1993 [19:21] <SHD209> this was from yesterday http://pastebin.com/4470ea8u
#1994 [19:21] <hrc568> link does not work
#1995 [19:23] <Calinou> ??> hrc568 irc/multitasking
#1996 [19:23] <VoxelHead> hrc568: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#1997 [19:23] <SHD209> i can do again but then what happens to the text doc i already have?
#1998 [19:23] <Calinou> SHD209: it'll work, no need to do it again.
#1999 [19:23] <Calinou> SHD209: your graphics card is too old to play minecraft
#2000 [19:23] <hrc568> sorry
#2001 [19:24] <Calinou> you'll have to get a newer one
#2002 [19:24] <Calinou> if it's a desktop then you can change it
#2003 [19:24] <SHD209> how? buy it? what do i do in the mean time?
#2004 [19:24] <Calinou> you just can't play the game
#2005 [19:24] <SHD209> i had a prepaid card and its a one time use
#2006 [19:24] <Calinou> talking about graphics card...
#2007 [19:24] <Calinou> ._.
#2008 [19:25] <SHD209> no my prepaid activation for game
#2009 [19:26] <Lutzee> SHD209: there is a component in your PC called a graphics card, unfortunately the one in your PC is too old. You need something newer
#2010 [19:26] <MiniVal34> please helps me. I buy Minecraft Wednesday but I don't have receveid the mail with my premium acount
#2011 [19:27] <MiniVal34> and I can(t download minecraft
#2012 [19:27] <SHD209> hey lutzee: i did try but no go! yeah i thought so but the graphics card is like $40?
#2013 [19:28] <Lutzee> SHD209: the copper used on the card is probably worth more than the card itself now.
#2014 [19:29] <hrc568> purchased game 2 months ago, playing from destop, offline, wanted to change skins but forgot password to mindcraft.net so i changed it, logged in, tried to change skins and it told me i had to purchase it
#2015 [19:29] <SHD209> is there one in particular for my pc u recommend?
#2016 [19:30] <Lutzee> SHD209: is this a desltop PC?
#2017 [19:30] <SHD209> yep
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#2020 [19:32] <hrc568> it being mindcraft......again
#2021 [19:32] <Lutzee> Calinou: SHD has one PCI-e x16 (looks like 1st gen) what card should he get.. i'm not really up on older tech
#2022 [19:32] <Lutzee> hrc568: where did you purchase the game?
#2023 [19:33] <hrc568> mindraft.net
#2024 [19:33] <Lutzee> Diud you get a transaction ID in an email after purchase?
#2025 [19:33] <Lutzee> Did*
#2026 [19:34] <MiniVal34> me ?
#2027 [19:36] <hrc568> sorry it was majong.com and i did get a link to set up account
#2028 [19:37] <SHD209> lutzee: were u asking me?
#2029 [19:37] <Lutzee> .. When you purchased the game did you get an email with a transaction ID in it hrc568 , you to MiniVal34
#2030 [19:37] <Calinou> Lutzee: it is the current technology ;-;
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#2032 [19:39] <hrc568> no, just link to verify account
#2033 [19:39] <Lutzee> SHD209: um, something like this should work.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/181049883058
#2034 [19:40] <Lutzee> hrc568: Did you bank account even get debited for the payment?
#2035 [19:41] <SHD209> lutzee: so is that "basic" or is that a "beter" kind of card?
#2036 [19:41] <SHD209> *better
#2037 [19:41] <Lutzee> Er, its a card that should run minecraft at an okay fps, that isn't that expensive..
#2038 [19:43] <hrc568> cant say for sure, all i've done since i "purchased" it is downloaded it to and play from desktop, offline.
#2039 [19:44] <SHD209> k we will figure it out my son says maybe we should put it on the laptop, but we paid for the game already on this pc...now for nothing...cant the card be reset? or refunded!?
#2040 [19:44] <Lutzee> SHD209: the game will work on any PC, all you need to do is log in with your account on that PC
#2041 [19:44] <Lutzee> How old is the laptop?
#2042 [19:45] <SHD209> few yrs...but my problem is we already paid on this pc...i tried to log in and download to the laptop and it said cant...need to buy
#2043 [19:46] <Lutzee> SHD209: should be able to just fine the launcher can be found on minecraft.net/download
#2044 [19:47] <SHD209> yeah i can download but have to buy it again for laptop! the pc already redeemed the activation card
#2045 [19:47] <Lutzee> SHD209: The game is not locked to your PC.. you can use it anywhere
#2046 [19:48] <hrc568> when i logged into najong.com before and went into settings it would show that i purchased mindcrfaft but since i changed my password an hour ago, i can still log in bit it says i have to purchase it and that it's never been played on this computer before
#2047 [19:48] <Lutzee> You buy the account that gives you access to the game
#2048 [19:48] <SHD209> but because i cant fully download how does that work then? can we run thru it to see if it can be played on the laptop?
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#2050 [19:49] <Lutzee> SHD209: Download the launcher on the laptop, run it, put in your account login info, should just run the game..
#2051 [19:50] <SHD209> k i have the laptop in front of me...which launcher do i run?
#2052 [19:50] <SHD209> minecraft.net
#2053 [19:51] <Lutzee> If its windows the .exe version
#2054 [19:51] <Lutzee> !client
#2055 [19:54] <SHD209> holy crap it worked!!! u all are freaking awesome!!!!!!!!!
#2056 [19:56] <SHD209> thanks for all ur help...
#2057 [19:56] <Lutzee> No problem
#2058 [19:57] <hrc568> when i logged into najong.com before and went into settings it would show that i purchased mindcrfaft but since i changed my password an hour ago, i can still log in bit it says i have to purchase it and that it's never been played on this computer before
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#2060 [19:59] <Lutzee> hrc568: the only way that would happen is if either, you have accidentally made a new account.. or the card holder of the card the game was purchased with disputed the payment
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#2063 [20:06] <hrc568> no dispute on payment and only requested new password not new account
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#2066 [20:14] <xales> hrc568: Are you sure there was actually a charge? Was that the account you were logged into when you purchased it?
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#2069 [20:16] <gretchen> hell
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#2071 [20:16] <gretchen> hello
#2072 [20:16] <hrc568> same account but son has never played or tried to do anything online before, just played downloaded game from desktop
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#2074 [20:17] <hrc568> login account has all relevant peronal info though
#2075 [20:17] <gretchen> anybody can help me with minecraft? why does it always say connection time out:connect??
#2076 [20:17] <xales> gretchen: Does it say that when you try to connect to a server?
#2077 [20:17] <gretchen> ya
#2078 [20:17] <xales> hrc568: Check with your bank and make sure there was actually a charge.
#2079 [20:18] <gretchen> where
#2080 [20:18] <xales> gretchen: I was not talking to you.
#2081 [20:18] <gretchen> ok
#2082 [20:18] <xales> gretchen: The address you entered is wrong, or the server you are attempting to connect to is not running.
#2083 [20:19] <gretchen> the ip adree is correct
#2084 [20:19] <gretchen> address
#2085 [20:19] <xales> Then the server is not running.
#2086 [20:19] <gretchen> oh
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#2088 [20:19] <hrc568> k, tks. but would he have been able been able to downoad and play it if it wasn't paid for
#2089 [20:19] <xales> No, unless using a pirated/stolen version.
#2090 [20:19] <gretchen> no i go to forwart port and enter ip address and port number they say server is closed
#2091 [20:20] <xales> gretchen: Like I said, the server is not running. Are you trying to connect to a server that somebody is running, or are you trying to run your own?
#2092 [20:21] <gretchen> connect to the server which someone is running called XeraingAMING
#2093 [20:21] <hrc568> k, tks, went throug mindraft site so thats not the issue
#2094 [20:21] <gretchen> XerainGaming
#2095 [20:21] <hrc568> tks 4 the help
#2096 [20:21] <xales> gretchen: The server is not running, or the address you are using is wrong. We cannot help you with that.
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#2098 [20:21] <gretchen> oh so it sthe server is not running cus the ip is correct
#2099 [20:22] <gretchen> 87.73.98.227
#2100 [20:22] <gretchen> its correct
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#2106 [20:35] <Xaviergmail> Why does xchat always have to remind me this every 3 seconds? http://i.imgur.com/mmap5.png
#2107 [20:36] <Lutzee> Er, you have it to remind you when you have an unread PM?
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#2109 [20:41] <Xaviergmail> But I read that pm >:L
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#2111 [20:44] <Lutzee> Xaviergmail: could always /ignore AuBot if you dont need access to the bot
#2112 [20:45] <Xaviergmail> Oh god now it's alternating between these two...
#2113 [20:45] <Xaviergmail> What did I do to deserve this? :(
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#2119 [20:51] <Trix> My son just got Minecraft and, for the past couple of days, can only move about the site but cannot destroy blocks, etc by using the mouse. Also, when he is in the sky, the shift key will not get him back down to the ground. Any ideas as to what might be wrong?
#2120 [20:53] <Andrio> Are your control settings messed up?
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#2122 [20:56] <Trix> I honestly have no idea. He may have messed something up, but I can't even find an option to get him back to default settings.
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#2124 [20:58] <Andrio> If you go to 12Options, then 12Controls, what is 12Attack set to?
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#2127 [20:59] <Trix> Attack is set to Button 1
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#2129 [21:00] <Guest17995> can some one help me im trying to play multiplay and i creat a new muliplayer world and try to play on it says communication error
#2130 [21:01] <Andrio> Guest17995, mine does that sometimes. It may start working again if you wait a minute.
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#2132 [21:02] <Andrio> Trix, is anything else set to Button 1?
#2133 [21:02] <Guest17995> i have it open right now and im refreshing it but its been open for awhile
#2134 [21:03] <Guest17995> i try to jion and it says failed to connect to server
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#2136 [21:03] <Trix> Button 1 is also set for Drop, Pick Block, Left, Sneak and List Players
#2137 [21:04] <Andrio> Ok, that is some messed up control scheme.
#2138 [21:04] <Trix> Andrio - thanks for your help, by the way!
#2139 [21:04] <Andrio> You're welcome.
#2140 [21:04] <Andrio> Button 1 won't work if it's set to five different controls.
#2141 [21:05] <Andrio> Are you running Windows?
#2142 [21:06] <Trix> How can I fix this? My son (age 9) just advised that he did change some things. We are running windows, yes.
#2143 [21:06] <Andrio> You'll need to either manually change the control setting so that there's no duplicates,
#2144 [21:06] <Andrio> or just reset everything.
#2145 [21:07] <Guest17995> shift should be sneak?
#2146 [21:07] <Lutzee> Deteleting the options file in %appdata%/.minecraft would work the same
#2147 [21:07] <Lutzee> ?? win/,minecraft
#2148 [21:07] <Andrio> ^
#2149 [21:07] <Lutzee> ?? win/.minecraft
#2150 [21:07] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#2151 [21:07] <Lutzee> ^ do that then delete the options file
#2152 [21:08] <Guest17995> trix if you want then back to normal shift is sneak q is drop and left click is mine right click is build or use poitons
#2153 [21:09] <Trix> Sorry, but this is all very new to me. When I click Button 1, I get ??? as my only other option. How do I get them how they need to be?
#2154 [21:09] <Andrio> You click on it and then press whatever button you want to assign the control to.
#2155 [21:09] <Lutzee> Trix: when you get the ??? you need to press the button you want it to be
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#2158 [21:13] <Trix> Guest17995, you said left click is mine. I don't see mine on the list
#2159 [21:14] <Andrio> It's attack. Attack also breaks blocks.
#2160 [21:15] <Trix> I still have Button 1 for Attack, Pick Block, Left, and List Players. Should any of these be changed and, if so, to what? Hopefully I've almost got this. Thanks much!
#2161 [21:17] <Andrio> Under the default settings, Pick Block is the middle mouse button, Left is A and List Players is the Tab key
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#2165 [21:19] <marty1121> hey, so i was playing my world
#2166 [21:19] <marty1121> and i was in the nether and fell in lava
#2167 [21:20] <marty1121> and then my world crashed and i just get an error message when i try to open it
#2168 [21:20] <marty1121> is there anyway to fix this
#2169 [21:20] <marty1121> ?
#2170 [21:21] <Trix> OK Andrio, I've made these adjustments and will go out and see how things play now.
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#2174 [21:23] <Trix> Andrio & Guest17995 - thanks much - all looks to be working well now. Trix out
#2175 [21:23] <Trix> Andrio & Guest17995 - thanks much - all looks to be working well now. Trix out
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#2177 [21:23] <Guest17995> good bye and your welcome
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#2179 [21:27] <Guest17995> so its still saying communication error and i tried to get on my friend world and it said cant connect
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#2183 [21:31] <Dean> Hey, can someone help me? My minecraft won't load anymore
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#2187 [21:34] <Guest17995> hello?
#2188 [21:34] <Dean> i guess no one is here
#2189 [21:34] <Dean> I'm needing help
#2190 [21:34] <Guest17995> no i am
#2191 [21:34] <Guest17995> whats wrong?
#2192 [21:34] <Dean> oh, hello
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#2194 [21:34] <Dean> i don't know what my son did to the game
#2195 [21:35] <Dean> but it won't load anymore. I log in just fine, but the game it self won't load
#2196 [21:35] <Guest17995> it just closes and then error things pop up that say weird stuff?
#2197 [21:35] <Dean> yes, like some files were deleted or something
#2198 [21:35] <Guest17995> on your desptop or latop where all the icons are?
#2199 [21:36] <Guest17995> i hade the same problom
#2200 [21:36] <Dean> the icons are in a folder on my C drive, on my desktop
#2201 [21:37] <Guest17995> dean i will invite you to a pm it will apear where the thing that says mionecrafthelp
#2202 [21:37] <cestislife> Dean, mind posting the pop up that say weird stuff on pastebin.com
#2203 [21:37] <cestislife> Guest17995, no keep the discussion here for public reference.
#2204 [21:37] <Guest17995> ok.
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#2206 [21:39] <Dean> ok, its not posting what it said anymore, but the minecraft is still not loading right...things look very very weird
#2207 [21:39] <Guest17995> cestislife are you a admin?
#2208 [21:40] <cestislife> Guest17995, no.
#2209 [21:40] <cestislife> Dean, define look very very weird.
#2210 [21:40] <Dean> everything is like black in the background, really no color
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#2212 [21:41] <cestislife> Did you try a force update, Dean?
#2213 [21:41] <Dean> i don't know how to do that
#2214 [21:41] <cestislife> ??> Dean forceupdate
#2215 [21:41] <VoxelHead> Dean: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2216 [21:41] <VoxelHead> Dean: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2217 [21:42] <Dean> ok hold on, let me try that, please
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#2219 [21:43] <Dean> wow that worked! Thanks so much for all your help ya'll!!!
#2220 [21:44] <Guest17995> can you help me because im trying to play with my friend on multiplayer and it says communication error on my worlds and when i type in his world numbers it says failed connection to the server
#2221 [21:44] <cestislife> I can't fully understand your question.
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#2223 [21:45] <Dean> my son says it happens to him too when he tries to play mutiplayer
#2224 [21:45] <Dean> but i don't know what to do about it
#2225 [21:46] <Guest17995> i have this thing that i opened from the minecraft websight thats call minecraft server some one said it would help but it says the same thing
#2226 [21:46] <Guest17995> it also says scann for Lan world 000
#2227 [21:48] <cestislife> I'm kinna confused as to what you're asking.
#2228 [21:48] <Guest17995> um so i want to play multiplayer with my friend
#2229 [21:48] <cestislife> Failing to connect to servers are mostly the firewall's fault for not letting any outgoing connections for Java.
#2230 [21:49] <Guest17995> and i go to type in the numbers for his world i do it goes to connect but then it says fail to connect
#2231 [21:50] <cestislife> Numbers for his world?
#2232 [21:50] <Guest17995> his world ip?
#2233 [21:50] <cestislife> The world itself doesn't have an IP, you're refering to his external IP.
#2234 [21:50] <Guest17995> does that make more sence i wasn't sure what to call it.
#2235 [21:51] <cestislife> Can anyone else connect to his server then?
#2236 [21:51] <Guest17995> i dont know im the only one i know he knows on minecraft nd i cant conntact him right now
#2237 [21:52] <cestislife> His server needs to be online if you are to connect to it.
#2238 [21:52] <cestislife> He might have portforwarded it wrong.
#2239 [21:52] <Guest17995> portforwarded it wrong?
#2240 [21:53] <cestislife> Minecraft servers typically occupy the port 25565, he has to open that port to let you connect to his server.
#2241 [21:53] <cestislife> If he is using another port, then you should include it in the IP as such
#2242 [21:53] <cestislife> IP:port
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#2245 [21:56] <Adam> Where do I send my crash report?
#2246 [21:56] <cestislife> ??> Adam pastebin
#2247 [21:56] <VoxelHead> Adam: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2248 [21:57] <Adam> Ok, thanks!
#2249 [21:57] <Guest17995> oh i found a way to get connact with him his minecraft is broke and he doesn't have his computer
#2250 [21:57] <Guest17995> but my minecraft severs sti wont work
#2251 [21:58] <Guest17995> hello?
#2252 [21:59] <cestislife> Hi
#2253 [21:59] <Adam> Here's the link I got from the crash report, If thats what you mean. http://pastebin.com/bmQSvcem
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#2255 [22:00] <cestislife> it is exactly what I meant, thank you.
#2256 [22:00] <Guest17995> well my servers still wont work
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#2259 [22:01] <Guest17995> i keep refreshing and i added one more server it wont work
#2260 [22:01] <cestislife> Adam, your video card drivers are up to date, yes?
#2261 [22:02] <ibhrle> im trying to run minecraft and all i get is a black screen after i log in and try to run it.
#2262 [22:02] <cestislife> ibhrle, did you try to force update?
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#2265 [22:03] <Adam> I'm sorry, I'm not sure what that is, but it's a pretty new macbook pro and I have the latest version.
#2266 [22:03] <ibhrle> im sorry i dont know how to do that.
#2267 [22:03] <cestislife> Adam, this post might help
#2268 [22:03] <cestislife> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1462414-minecraft-is-crashing/#entry17812513
#2269 [22:03] <cestislife> ??> ibhrle forceupdate
#2270 [22:03] <VoxelHead> ibhrle: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2271 [22:03] <VoxelHead> ibhrle: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#2273 [22:04] <ibhrle> i dont know how to do that.
#2274 [22:04] <cestislife> VoxelHead has told you how to do that.
#2275 [22:04] <cestislife> Please follow his instructions.
#2276 [22:05] <Guest17995> does any one have any ideas to help me?
#2277 [22:05] <ibhrle> thanks
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#2280 [22:06] <Monkey32> How come I can't destroy things on Minecraft only lets me build them??
#2281 [22:07] <cestislife> Monkey32, are you playing on a server?
#2282 [22:07] <cestislife> Define cannot destroy things?
#2283 [22:09] <Disori> All craft, no mine
#2284 [22:09] <Monkey32> My kids play on a Macbook and they are able to build or construct is probably a better word, but when they want to get rid of it they are unable? sorry I don't know much about Minecraft just trying to help them out. Thanks
#2285 [22:10] <Guest17995> it wont let me play my multiplayer word or connect to my friend mine says communication error and when i click it and hit play it says lost connection to world
#2286 [22:10] <Disori> Guest17995, has he port forwarded?
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#2288 [22:11] <cestislife> If you are playing on Survival mode, Monkey32, you have to hold the attack button, since blocks are not One-Click-Remove in that mode.
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#2291 [22:12] <eduardo91164> it says bad video card
#2292 [22:13] <cestislife> eduardo91164, please post the error log at pastebin.com
#2293 [22:13] <Guest17995> i dont know but hes offline now and he said his minecraft and computer is broke but when we tried it it wouldnt work so now im try to connect to servers se witch ones i could join but i waited for ever and it just said scannin for LAN worlds
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#2295 [22:14] <eduardo91164> on where
#2296 [22:15] <cestislife> ??> eduardo91164 pastebin
#2297 [22:15] <VoxelHead> eduardo91164: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#2299 [22:16] <Monkey32> Thanks cestislife will try that.
#2300 [22:16] <Monkey32> Thanks cestislife will try that.
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#2302 [22:18] <eduardo91164> here http://pastebin.com/ttnxpe77
#2303 [22:18] <Guest17995> will any one help me!
#2304 [22:18] <cestislife> eduardo91164, the whole log, when minecraft crashes.
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#2306 [22:20] <Guest17995> will some one help me ot withy my multiplayer
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#2312 [22:25] <Guest17995> my multiplayer is not working and it says scanning for LAN worlds
#2313 [22:26] <IRIS> Grr...my vanilla Minecraft Singleplayer world has crashed for the fifth time today. Where should I go for help?
#2314 [22:26] <cestislife> IRIS, post the crashlog here.
#2315 [22:27] <cestislife> ??> IRIS pastebin
#2316 [22:27] <VoxelHead> IRIS: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2317 [22:28] <IRIS> Ok. Thanks cestislife and VoxelHead! :)
#2318 [22:28] <Guest17995> and never finds one so i made my own world and it says communication error and i click it to play it and it loads up and then stops and says fail to connect to server
#2319 [22:29] <Guest17995> someonehelp me!>!>!>!>!>!>
#2320 [22:30] <IRIS> This is all it had. Computers don't like me.... http://pastebin.com/A4kw34pa
#2321 [22:31] <cestislife> Woah IRIS, I can't read that, and it's not the whole log.
#2322 [22:33] <IRIS> Uh...could it be the notepad?? All I have is notepad, and my dad won't let me download anything else. So, yeah.
#2323 [22:34] <Guest17995> can some one help me please?
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#2325 [22:35] <Guest17995> please? some one?
#2326 [22:35] <Guest17995> hello?'
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#2331 [22:37] <th3thirdt> hello?
#2332 [22:37] <cestislife> Hello.
#2333 [22:37] <IRIS> Should I show the error Minecraft showed me? Or the crash report that it says to send to Mojang? Because I just pastebin'ed the crash report that it said to send to Mojang...
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#2335 [22:38] <th3thirdt> wait are you playing a mod IRIS
#2336 [22:39] <IRIS> No. Just Vanilla Minecraft. Clean and simple.
#2337 [22:39] <th3thirdt> what is vanilla minecraft ive heard of it
#2338 [22:39] <th3thirdt> did yo half to download it?
#2339 [22:40] <IRIS> @th3thirdt it's the basic minecraft.
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#2341 [22:41] <cestislife> IRIS, have you tried a force update?
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#2343 [22:42] <IRIS> What's that?...I feel stupid...
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#2345 [22:42] <cestislife> ??> IRIS forceupdate
#2346 [22:42] <VoxelHead> IRIS: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2347 [22:42] <VoxelHead> IRIS: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2348 [22:43] <IRIS> Ok. Thanks, be right back.
#2349 [22:43] <th3thirdt> i am in need of assistance to
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#2351 [22:44] <th3thirdt> my lilttle brothers multi player sees to be broke
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#2354 [22:45] <th3thirdt> he said he was here not to long ago and said no one will help him
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#2357 [22:46] <CaptianHook> hello, i'm having troulbe hosting my server.
#2358 [22:47] <th3thirdt> i am to captainhook
#2359 [22:47] <th3thirdt> is it saying communication lost?
#2360 [22:47] <CaptianHook> i can't seem to open the ports to the outside even though i have port forwarded and allowed it through my firewalls
#2361 [22:47] <th3thirdt> i mean error
#2362 [22:47] <CaptianHook> i don't think so let me check with my friend.
#2363 [22:48] <IRIS> Alright, now I'm getting a javaw.exe - Bad Image error. It's been doing that all day. How do I fix it?
#2364 [22:49] <th3thirdt> i dont know where voxelhead or the othr gy went
#2365 [22:51] <cestislife> Reinstall java IRIS.
#2366 [22:51] <th3thirdt> there he is
#2367 [22:51] <th3thirdt> cestislife
#2368 [22:52] <th3thirdt> my littl brother said he was here not to long ago and asked for help and no one would help him?
#2369 [22:52] <CaptianHook> th3thirdt: mine says connection lost
#2370 [22:52] <cestislife> Question was unclear, cannot help.
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#2372 [22:53] <th3thirdt> he says that his multiplayer is broke to where when he tries to enter his own server it says communication error?
#2373 [22:53] <cestislife> Port not open.
#2374 [22:53] <cestislife> Or firewall is blocking connection.
#2375 [22:54] <th3thirdt> how i open my port?
#2376 [22:54] <cestislife> The server is the one that needs to open the port.
#2377 [22:54] <cestislife> portforwarding.com
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#2379 [22:55] <CaptianHook> cestislife: i have tried port forwarding, i have tried disabling firewalls. neither worked. do you have any suggestions?
#2380 [22:56] <Lord_Ralex> CaptianHook, how are you trying to reach your server
#2381 [22:56] <th3thirdt> im at the website right now sir/mam and it has a bunch of options and to tell the truth i dont know what im doing
#2382 [22:56] <Lord_Ralex> is it on the same computer as the client?
#2383 [22:56] <IRIS> @cestislife thank you. Alot.. And you too VoxelHead!
#2384 [22:56] <Lord_Ralex> or are you having a friend try to reach it and they are getting that message?
#2385 [22:57] <CaptianHook> Ralex, I can reach my server when I play it on the same machine as the server is being hosted (the PC I am on now). When I try scanning the port using different sites or a port scanning tool, it says the port isn't open. I am also trying to have a friend connect to me, but it says Can't Reach.
#2386 [22:58] <Lord_Ralex> CaptianHook, how many devices does your computer have to go though to get to the internet?
#2387 [22:58] <Lord_Ralex> like computer -> router -> modem -> internet or dual routers or anything?
#2388 [22:58] <CaptianHook> PC wired to Router wired to Modem.
#2389 [22:59] <CaptianHook> so PC -> Router
#2390 [22:59] <CaptianHook> Router -> Modem. Sorry my pinky hit enter a little too fast.
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#2395 [23:05] <th3thirdt> captianhook? do you know how to do all this port stuff?
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#2397 [23:05] <th3thirdt> sounds like you know what your talking about
#2398 [23:05] <CaptianHook> do you know what kind of router you have?
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#2407 [23:18] <Noname> Hello guys! Today, I downloaded minecraft on a relatives new Mac computer. With this being said I know that the hardware is up to date, but I'm still receiving an error message saying"'Minecraft' is damage and can't be opened. You should move it to the Trash." Any ideas on how to fix this?
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#2410 [23:19] <cestislife> Noname, try a force update.
#2411 [23:19] <cestislife> ??> Noname forceupdate
#2412 [23:19] <VoxelHead> Noname: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2413 [23:20] <VoxelHead> Noname: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2414 [23:20] <Luka> Where can i get the Minecraft SMP Server Protocol?
#2415 [23:20] <Lord_Ralex> cestislife, it is not that
#2416 [23:20] <Lord_Ralex> it is the mac security thing
#2417 [23:21] <cestislife> Ah, okay.
#2418 [23:21] <Noname> Voxel/Cestis, this is when I try to start the game itself. I do not even get into the Minecraft client. Thanks for such a fast reply, btw!
#2419 [23:21] <cestislife> LEt's see.
#2420 [23:21] <Lord_Ralex> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#2421 [23:21] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#2422 [23:21] <cestislife> ^ This.
#2423 [23:23] <Luka> anyone?
#2424 [23:23] <cestislife> Luka, I do not know what you mean.
#2425 [23:23] <Luka> The Protocol
#2426 [23:23] <Luka> I cant really explain it
#2427 [23:24] <Luka> ?? protocol
#2428 [23:24] <Luka> ?? index
#2429 [23:24] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#2430 [23:25] <cestislife> Do you mean this?
#2431 [23:25] <cestislife> ?? smp/protocol/authentication
#2432 [23:25] <VoxelHead> smp/protocol/authentication: http://wug.me/minecraft/normal.png
#2433 [23:25] <Noname> Unfortunately, the same error still comes up when i command click/double tap and use the "open" command. Any other ideas? Thanks for the help, again!
#2434 [23:25] <Lord_Ralex> ?? mac/gatekeeper/disable
#2435 [23:25] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper/disable: If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#2436 [23:25] <Luka> ?? smp/protocol/authentication
#2437 [23:25] <VoxelHead> smp/protocol/authentication: http://wug.me/minecraft/normal.png
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#2440 [23:27] <Lord_Ralex> Luka, http://www.wiki.vg/Protocol ?
#2441 [23:28] <Luka> do you know where the on Minecraft released is?
#2442 [23:28] <Luka> or is that the one
#2443 [23:28] <Lord_Ralex> what?
#2444 [23:28] <cestislife> Im very confused.
#2445 [23:29] <Luka> ?
#2446 [23:29] <Lord_Ralex> your question did not make sense
#2447 [23:29] <Lord_Ralex> can you reword it
#2448 [23:29] <Lord_Ralex> or explain it more
#2449 [23:30] <Luka> Is that like the official protocol?
#2450 [23:30] <Lord_Ralex> that is what MC uses for multiplayer comminucation
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#2453 [23:33] <Shag> hello how is on to help a noob with some account ?'s
#2454 [23:33] <Shag> set up account bought mincraft and no confirmation email
#2455 [23:34] <Shag> how long does it usally take to get what u purchase?
#2456 [23:35] <Shag> AuBot who knows
#2457 [23:35] <Luka> Aubot is a bot
#2458 [23:35] <Shag> ha ha
#2459 [23:35] <Shag> hey luka
#2460 [23:36] <Shag> some bots are smart bots though
#2461 [23:36] <Luka> yes
#2462 [23:36] <Luka> True
#2463 [23:36] <Luka> but u have to identify what ur asking
#2464 [23:36] <Luka> like this
#2465 [23:36] <Luka> !paid Lukario45
#2466 [23:36] <Luka> !paid Lukario45
#2467 [23:37] <Luka> See
#2468 [23:37] <Shag> sweet
#2469 [23:37] <Shag> so preceded by !
#2470 [23:37] <Luka> I guess
#2471 [23:37] <Shag> do you know how long it takes toget a confirmation email when you purchase?
#2472 [23:37] <Luka> it should take less the 24 hrs
#2473 [23:37] <Noname> Thank you for the really fast responses and working resolution, voxel and cestis!
#2474 [23:37] <Luka> when did u purchase?
#2475 [23:37] <Luka> Noname
#2476 [23:38] <Shag> 4 hrs ago or so
#2477 [23:38] <Luka> Voxel is a bot also
#2478 [23:38] <Luka> Shag i would wait till tomarrow
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#2480 [23:38] <Luka> Because it isnt bussiniess hours im guessing
#2481 [23:38] <Shag> thanks luka. do you play mincraft? my son wanted to buy after playing demo
#2482 [23:39] <Luka> Yes i do
#2483 [23:39] <Shag> but all I can tell the diff. is multiplayer, is that right
#2484 [23:39] <Shag> I just updated to 1.4.6 and installed buildcraft for him
#2485 [23:39] <Luka> I havent ever played the demo before so i dont really know, i know multiplay isnt on the demo though
#2486 [23:40] <Shag> what is benifit of purchasing Is really my question i guess
#2487 [23:40] <cestislife> Shag, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Demo_mode
#2488 [23:40] <Shag> hello cestislife
#2489 [23:40] <Luka> Well Shag
#2490 [23:40] <cestislife> Look under Restrictions.
#2491 [23:40] <Luka> I found single player boreing :
#2492 [23:40] <Shag> that will tell me the diff. ? thanks
#2493 [23:41] <Shag> also Can I put the purchase on a desktop and a laptop and play with him?
#2494 [23:42] <Luka> is forcibly a real word?
#2495 [23:43] <Shag> you know i just read restrictions and I wasn't restricted like that
#2496 [23:43] <Shag> I downloaded and just played offline
#2497 [23:44] <Shag> the only restriction that I noticed was the multiplayer one
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#2499 [23:45] <Luka> is minecraft Open Source?
#2500 [23:45] <cestislife> No.
#2501 [23:46] <Shag> ah
#2502 [23:46] <Shag> so they must not limit you when you download
#2503 [23:46] <cestislife> Being open source means the ability to freely change and distribute Minecraft's code.
#2504 [23:47] <Shag> well then how is there all the mods that you see?
#2505 [23:47] <Shag> are then not legit?
#2506 [23:47] <Luka> cestislife do they have their source somewhere where someone can see it?
#2507 [23:47] <cestislife> Mods are not based on Minecraft's code.
#2508 [23:47] <Lord_Ralex> Luka, no
#2509 [23:47] <cestislife> And no Luka.
#2510 [23:47] <Shag> ok
#2511 [23:48] <Luka> Damnit now i have to use MPC
#2512 [23:48] <cestislife> MCP*
#2513 [23:48] <Luka> cestislife mods are edits to minecrafes code
#2514 [23:48] <cestislife> Through MCP, not directly.
#2515 [23:48] <Lord_Ralex> Luka, the ToU allows this
#2516 [23:49] <Luka> What is tou?
#2517 [23:49] <cestislife> Terms of Use.
#2518 [23:49] <Lord_Ralex> "If you've bought the game, you may play around with it and modify it."
#2519 [23:49] <Lord_Ralex> http://minecraft.net/terms
#2520 [23:49] <Luka> Oh
#2521 [23:49] <Shag> so after I purchased the game what will the confirmation email contain?
#2522 [23:50] <Luka> Shag
#2523 [23:50] <Shag> cuz I can't log on with my current mojang account info?
#2524 [23:50] <Shag> yes
#2525 [23:50] <Luka> What do u mean?
#2526 [23:50] <Luka> Why cant log on?
#2527 [23:50] <Shag> ?
#2528 [23:50] <Shag> :/
#2529 [23:51] <Shag> I run launcher, type mojang acc info and it wont long on so play offline is only option
#2530 [23:51] <Luka> Did you try from minecraft.net
#2531 [23:52] <Shag> I thought that maybe mincraft and mojang acc info is differnt
#2532 [23:52] <Shag> I logon in mincraft .net
#2533 [23:54] <Shag> I get a security warning me it runs with unrestricted access
#2534 [23:54] <Shag> if i hit play in browser
#2535 [23:56] * cestislife is now known as cestislife|afk
#2536 [23:56] <Shag> @luka
#2537 [23:57] <Shag> do you get that?
#2538 [23:57] <Shag> thanks cestislife|afk
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