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#39 [01:48] <TyanColte> !login
#40 [01:48] <TyanColte> wtf
#41 [01:48] <TyanColte> why can't i log in
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#43 [01:48] <TyanColte> nvm
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#117 [06:02] <sam> i upgraded minecraft yesterday and my server cant be seen any more
#118 [06:03] <sam> no ip, forward porting or router changes have been made
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#122 [06:06] <sam> i upgraded to 1.4.7 and my server can not be seen any more any help please, no IP router or port forwarding changes made
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#140 [07:05] <kaitou> Can someone help me?
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#142 [07:06] <kaitou> I have played since classic minecraft, and now I can't login. It says something about migration and I dont know what to do, I can't check the email I was registered to and I dont know
#143 [07:06] <kaitou> if I was even registered to an email since I registered 3 years ago
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#145 [07:07] <kaitou> is anyone here that can help me
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#147 [07:09] <kaitou> Can someone help me out, I don't know what this mojang migration is about, I can't login to my account that I've had for over 3 years.
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#150 [07:20] <kaitou> can no one help me?
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#152 [07:22] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, classic is no longer supported
#153 [07:22] <kaitou> I made and bought my account in classic
#154 [07:22] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, as for migration, it is asking you to migrate to Mojang Accounts
#155 [07:22] <kaitou> Back when minecraft first started they didn't require an email, so I have none registered to login with
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#157 [07:22] <kaitou> it says it was migrated when I tried to login
#158 [07:23] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, use your migrated Mojang Accounts email to log in
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#160 [07:23] <kaitou> How? I have none registered, I made the account 3 years ago
#161 [07:23] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, do you not remember migrating your account to Mojang accounts?
#162 [07:23] <kaitou> I never did, it never prompted me
#163 [07:24] <kaitou> I was fine playing tekkit and regular minecraft
#164 [07:24] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, https://account.mojang.com/migrate
#165 [07:24] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, when you enter your Minecraft username in there, what does it give you?
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#167 [07:24] <kaitou> Doesnt recognize my user/pass
#168 [07:24] <kaitou> but it will attempt to login on minecraft and says migrated
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#170 [07:25] <kaitou> Thanks for helping me by the way
#171 [07:25] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, doesn't recognize or "Your Minecraft account has already been migrated to a Mojang account"?
#172 [07:25] <kaitou> greatly appreciated
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#174 [07:26] <kaitou> When I login through the lauchner it says, "acount migrated, use e-mail as username
#175 [07:26] <kaitou> I have no email registered
#176 [07:26] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, https://account.mojang.com/migrate
#177 [07:26] <tyteen4a03> I am talking about this page
#178 [07:26] <kaitou> doesnt recognize user/pass at migrate page
#179 [07:26] <kaitou> Tried 5 times
#180 [07:26] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, somebody else might have migrated your account for you
#181 [07:27] <kaitou> what can I do then, had the account since classic and I really don't want to lose it
#182 [07:28] <kaitou> They would surely change the pass if they migrated it right?
#183 [07:28] <kaitou> It shouldnt let me login to the launcher
#184 [07:28] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, you can choose to change your password when you migrate later on
#185 [07:28] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, either way, send a email to Mojang stating your username, your original transaction ID and state that your account did not have an email associated with it
#186 [07:28] <tyteen4a03> ??> kaitou mojang/email
#187 [07:28] <VoxelHead> kaitou: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#192 [07:35] <Sabreblade63> I am missing 2 mods and can't access multi player......only single player....can u help
#193 [07:35] <TheNoodle> ?? Mods
#194 [07:35] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#195 [07:35] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#199 [07:41] <kaitou> Filled out a form, thanks for your help
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#201 [07:44] <MC_HQ> hi
#202 [07:44] <MC_HQ> is there a plugins channel?
#203 [07:46] <MC_HQ> im trying to find out how to set it so only certain ranks can use certain warps on my server?
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#205 [07:52] <LilLucy> MC_HQ
#206 [07:52] <LilLucy> #bukkit and #risucraft
#207 [07:52] <MC_HQ> yeah? :)
#208 [07:52] <MC_HQ> yeah im there
#209 [07:52] <MC_HQ> risucraft was like plugins??? then sent me to #bukkit
#210 [07:52] <MC_HQ> and thhanks :)
#211 [07:52] <MC_HQ> and thhanks :)
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#223 [08:15] <kaitou> Ok, so I found out I have a registered email but I get the message, Error! Unknown e-mail address or password.
#224 [08:15] <kaitou> when I try to login
#225 [08:16] <worldmc> are you sure you enterd the right info?
#226 [08:16] <kaitou> password and email correct, confused. verified pass through launcher and email through https://minecraft.net/retrievename
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#228 [08:17] <kaitou> Launcher says my account was migrated, I guess it maybe bugged? Should I just wait for the mojang ticket?
#229 [08:17] <worldmc> use your migrate email addres
#230 [08:17] <kaitou> What does that mean?
#231 [08:17] <kaitou> The email registered to the account?
#232 [08:17] <worldmc> the email adress taht u used to make a migrated account
#233 [08:17] <kaitou> I did
#234 [08:17] <kaitou> its unknown
#235 [08:18] <kaitou> but it shows up through retrievename link =/
#236 [08:18] <kaitou> and I'm able to login to the launcher to receive the email notifaction
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#238 [08:19] <worldmc> the minecraft.net site and the mojang migrate site have diff login databases. try to look into your email and findthe confirm email from the migrate site
#239 [08:19] <kaitou> ok, I will take a look. Thanks for the help, greatly appreciated!
#240 [08:20] <kaitou> Ok, found something
#241 [08:20] <kaitou> ou've requested to migrate your Minecraft account kaitou to an existing Mojang account with a non-matching e-mail address. To proceed click the link below (or paste it into your browser if that doesn't work). This step is to ensure that no unwanted change takes place.
#242 [08:21] <kaitou> it says non-matching. does it mean my registered email? I don't want to give my account to anyone, unknowingly
#243 [08:22] <clarjon1> If you recieved the link in your email...
#244 [08:22] <clarjon1> Then it's your email that it will be registered to.
#245 [08:22] <kaitou> Yes, but I also recieve password change request to my email
#246 [08:22] <kaitou> and I dont make them
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#248 [08:22] <kaitou> so it could be someone else
#249 [08:24] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, it sounds like somebody else might have migrated the account for you
#250 [08:24] <tyteen4a03> again, email Mojang
#251 [08:24] <kaitou> I did, I just want to know if it's something that can be fixed faster
#252 [08:24] <kaitou> No one could have taken it yet, because I was sent a confirmation email
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#254 [08:28] <kaitou> Is there a way to make it send another confirmation email for migration? So I can confirm if it's from me or not.
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#259 [08:42] <clarjon1> well, first thing I'd do is to change your password
#260 [08:42] <BTS> my friend is trying to get on to my multiplayer server. it gives him the error message "connection refused". what does that mean?
#261 [08:43] <clarjon1> It means that your computer or router refused the connection.
#262 [08:43] <clarjon1> Did you make sure that the port forwarding is still set up properly?
#263 [08:43] <clarjon1> If you didn't set up your computer to have a static IP, your LAN address may have changed, invalidating the port forwarding.
#264 [08:43] <clarjon1> Also, your external IP may have changed, making the information you had given him previously invalid.
#265 [08:44] <kaitou> clarjon, I can't change my password because my account isn't migrated.
#266 [08:44] <clarjon1> well, initiate the migration process :)
#267 [08:44] <BTS> i dont know how to find out if i have a static ip
#268 [08:45] <clarjon1> BTS: You don't find out if you have one, you set one.
#269 [08:45] <kaitou> I can't, my account doesn't exist for some reason http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1640425-migrated-but-never-registered-email/
#270 [08:45] <clarjon1> BTS: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/19249/how-to-assign-a-static-ip-address-in-xp-vista-or-windows-7/
#271 [08:45] <clarjon1> BTS: If you don't know if you have one, chances are you have a Dynamic IP -- meaning it can change
#272 [08:45] <clarjon1> If you're planning to run a server, it's best to use a Static IP, so that you don't have to change the port forwarding in your router once you've set it :)
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#274 [08:46] <kaitou> I am in a very weird situation, someone must know what to do
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#278 [08:55] <kaitou> Anyone have a solution to my problem, besides emailing mogjang(already have). http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1640425-migrated-but-never-registered-email/
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#282 [09:03] <tyteen4a03> kaitou, emailing mojang would be only way
#283 [09:03] <kaitou> ok, I will just wait then. Thanks for all the help everyone
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#306 [10:37] <Chrisy> Hey I have recently purchased minecraft however everytime I try to dowload it onto my mac it states that the file cant be read and advised to trash the download
#307 [10:38] <worldmc> ehm
#308 [10:38] <worldmc> does it say that its corrupted aswell?
#309 [10:38] <Chrisy> no just damaged
#310 [10:38] <oldtopman> ??> Chrisy mac/gatekeeper
#311 [10:38] <VoxelHead> Chrisy: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#312 [10:39] <worldmc> was about to do that aswell
#313 [10:40] <Chrisy> no still the same message
#314 [10:41] <worldmc> ??> chrisy mac/gatekeeper/disable
#315 [10:41] <VoxelHead> chrisy: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#316 [10:41] <worldmc> i think that that is the problem then
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#323 [11:03] <WoM-Guest121_> Hello. Can anyone help me?
#324 [11:03] <worldmc> i mihgt be able to
#325 [11:03] <WoM-Guest121_> K this is really weird.
#326 [11:03] <WoM-Guest121_> Im typing it now
#327 [11:04] <worldmc> i see that
#328 [11:06] <WoM-Guest121_> I bought a new mouse. I downloaded feed the beast to play with my friend (Its in a different folder and all that). I played on a server and i was lagging really bad but i still had 250 fps. Now i noticed i cant even play singleplayer without it lagging in some werid way. Its not like smooth or something. I tried my old mouse but i still get the same problem.
#329 [11:07] <worldmc> how much ram do you have?
#330 [11:07] <worldmc> on your computer i mean
#331 [11:07] <WoM-Guest121_> 8 gigabytes
#332 [11:07] <worldmc> and taht is used all the time or is there still space free for mc?
#333 [11:07] <WoM-Guest121_> i had no problems before though :/ i havent been on my computer for 1 week
#334 [11:08] <worldmc> try clean some old junk. try updating the drivers
#335 [11:08] <worldmc> did the install of the mouse go all right?
#336 [11:08] <WoM-Guest121_> If im not playing mc my pc uses like 11% of my ram and with mc open 43%
#337 [11:08] <worldmc> okay
#338 [11:08] <WoM-Guest121_> Yeah it did
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#340 [11:09] <WoM-Guest121_> Do you think re-downloading mc could help?
#341 [11:10] <WoM-Guest121_> Its just really weird that i have 250-300 fps and still it like lagging.. Or when i move its not smooth like it used to be
#342 [11:10] <worldmc> try it . i got no solution for you since i dont know whats going wrong.
#343 [11:10] <WoM-Guest121_> Weird.. But thanks anyways
#344 [11:10] <worldmc> okay
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#346 [11:11] <Lutzee> WoM-Guest121_: Feed the beast is a modpack, and thus mods will affect the stability of the game.
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#348 [11:13] <Thewolffhd> i have download the latest minecraft snapshot 13w02a and have replaced it with my old minecraft.jar like i normaly do and now it has come up with a crash screen what hsal i do?
#349 [11:14] <Lutzee> Thewolffhd: Do you get a chrash log?
#350 [11:14] <worldmc> first we dont really support snapshots here.(correct me if im wrong) second a crashlog would be nice
#351 [11:14] <Thewolffhd> yes
#352 [11:15] <Thewolffhd> what do you want me to do with it
#353 [11:15] <Lutzee> Er pastebin.com
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#355 [11:15] <Lutzee> ?? pastebin
#356 [11:15] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#357 [11:15] <Thewolffhd> ok
#358 [11:16] <Thewolffhd> what do i paste
#359 [11:16] <Lutzee> Thje crashlog..
#360 [11:16] <Lutzee> the*
#361 [11:16] <Thewolffhd> ok
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#363 [11:19] <Thewolffhd> what do i do when i have copy and pasted
#364 [11:20] <worldmc> did you paste it into the pastebin webpage?
#365 [11:20] <Lutzee> click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#366 [11:20] <Thewolffhd> yes
#367 [11:20] <worldmc> ^
#368 [11:21] <Thewolffhd> ok
#369 [11:21] <Thewolffhd> http://pastebin.com/eSf4zKD9
#370 [11:21] <Thewolffhd> like that
#371 [11:21] <worldmc> yep
#372 [11:21] <Thewolffhd> ok
#373 [11:21] <Lutzee> OSX... java version 5
#374 [11:22] <worldmc> lol
#375 [11:22] <Thewolffhd> lol
#376 [11:22] <Thewolffhd> so whats the problem
#377 [11:22] <worldmc> might want to update to java 6
#378 [11:22] <worldmc> if possible
#379 [11:22] <Thewolffhd> hwo i do that?
#380 [11:23] <Thewolffhd> how
#381 [11:23] <worldmc> ??> java
#382 [11:23] <Thewolffhd> website
#383 [11:23] <worldmc> ehm i think you need a diff link for a mac pc
#384 [11:23] <worldmc> lemme look real fast for a sec
#385 [11:23] <Lutzee> Thewolffhd: software update should have an optional update to java 6
#386 [11:23] <Thewolffhd> ok
#387 [11:25] <Thewolffhd> where should i download
#388 [11:26] <rymate1234> software update
#389 [11:26] <Lutzee> Whatever the software update program thing is on OSX
#390 [11:26] <Thewolffhd> ok
#391 [11:29] <Calinou> app store as of 10.6
#392 [11:29] <Calinou> (or 10.8?)
#393 [11:29] <Thewolffhd> where is it free
#394 [11:29] <Calinou> it is, yes
#395 [11:29] <Lutzee> Calinou: he is on 10.5.8
#396 [11:30] <Thewolffhd> ok
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#398 [11:31] <Calinou> Lutzee: does 10.8 even have java 7? ;)
#399 [11:31] <Thewolffhd> ?
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#401 [11:31] <Lutzee> Calinou: java 7 on mac seems to just rbeak minecraft..
#402 [11:31] <Thewolffhd> yerh
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#405 [11:33] <Thewolffhd> it says i have no new software
#406 [11:34] <Lutzee> Thewolffhd: it might be installed... http://adam.shand.net/iki/2009/selecting_java_version_on_mac_osx_10_5_leopard/ check there and select java 6 as default
#407 [11:34] <Thewolffhd> ok
#408 [11:35] <Thewolffhd> where do i get java prefrences
#409 [11:36] <Lutzee> Java Preferences (in /Applications/Utilities)
#410 [11:36] <Thewolffhd> ok thannsk
#411 [11:38] <Thewolffhd> got it up now what do i do
#412 [11:38] <Lutzee> select java 6 64 bit for both
#413 [11:38] <Thewolffhd> it dosent say java 6
#414 [11:39] <Lutzee> What options are available?
#415 [11:39] <Lutzee> What options are available?
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#417 [11:39] <Thewolffhd> j2 se 5.0
#418 [11:40] <Thewolffhd> and
#419 [11:40] <Thewolffhd> j2se 1.4.2
#420 [11:40] <Lutzee> Right... then you have a problem...
#421 [11:40] <Lutzee> You need a new PC
#422 [11:40] <Thewolffhd> j2se 5.0
#423 [11:40] <Thewolffhd> :(
#424 [11:40] <Thewolffhd> i have mac!
#425 [11:40] <Lutzee> Mojang are dropping suppoort for java 5 very soon, and if you cant update you wont eb able to play
#426 [11:41] <Lutzee> Macs are PCs
#427 [11:41] <Lutzee> PC stands for personal computers
#428 [11:41] <Thewolffhd> noooooooooooooooo
#429 [11:41] <Lutzee> Macs are computers
#430 [11:41] <Lutzee> You own a mac that is personal to you
#431 [11:41] <Lutzee> Therefore your mac is a PC
#432 [11:42] <Thewolffhd> so what do i do
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#434 [11:42] <Lutzee> Plan on purchasing a new PC before the next update
#435 [11:42] <Thewolffhd> so what do i do
#436 [11:42] <Thewolffhd> ok
#437 [11:42] <Thewolffhd> balls
#438 [11:42] <Calinou> build*
#439 [11:42] <Calinou> FTFY
#440 [11:42] <Calinou> (and not a mac, for god's sake)
#441 [11:42] <Thewolffhd> balls
#442 [11:43] <Calinou> Thewolffhd: the alternative is, you can install a linux distro on your mac
#443 [11:43] <Calinou> (it is possible to install one along side OS X)
#444 [11:43] <Calinou> (or replacing it)
#445 [11:43] <Thewolffhd> what about linux distro
#446 [11:43] <Calinou> that's a whole different operating system though
#447 [11:43] <Thewolffhd> ok
#448 [11:44] <Thewolffhd> so i cant play minecraft on a mac anymoe except on 1.4.6
#449 [11:44] <Calinou> ubuntu [http://ubuntu.com] has ISOs specifically made for macs (they use a different kind of bootloader, sadly, so a mac-specific ISO makes stuff much easier) :P
#450 [11:44] <Calinou> yes
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#452 [11:44] <Thewolffhd> ok
#453 [11:45] <Thewolffhd> thanks for helping me! out guys
#454 [11:45] <Calinou> np
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#456 [11:45] <Thewolffhd> see u later than guys bye!
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#467 [12:53] <Psyextor> Can't really think of any other place to go, so I thought I'd try here. I'm trying to set up an MC server and a website on my localhost, yet only 8080 will work for my website and going to my I.P automatically goes to 80, is there a way to change this?
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#469 [12:55] <Lutzee> Psyextor: Oh... you want port 8080 to point at your webserver or port 80?
#470 [12:55] <Calinou> heh
#471 [12:55] <Psyextor> I would love to use 80, but for some reason only 8080 will work.
#472 [12:55] <Calinou> residential ISP ahoy
#473 [12:55] * Lutzee points out this is why people dont host websites on home addresses
#473 [12:55] <Calinou> ask your ISP "amgviruses"
#474 [12:56] <micky> i am unable to verify my email address has anyone else had this problem or know what i can do please?
#475 [12:56] <Psyextor> I used to never have an issue with this, probably when I upgraded my net it doesn't like 80.
#476 [12:56] <Psyextor> Is there a way to point it to 8080?
#477 [12:57] <Calinou> no
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#479 [12:57] <Psyextor> Damn...
#480 [12:57] <Lutzee> Psyextor: not if your ISP doesn't allow it
#481 [12:57] <Psyextor> And how would I know if my ISP doesn't allow it? Because I'm running a website just fine right now on 8080.
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#483 [12:58] <Lutzee> Because ISPs will purposly block inbound connections on port 80 to prevent it
#484 [13:00] <Psyextor> If I go to.. CanYouSeeMe, while running Abyss webserver on 80 it shows that it can see my service and that it's not blocked.
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#486 [13:16] <sugoi> Lutzee: what is an example isp that blocks ports?
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#488 [13:20] <Lutzee> sugoi: not a clue..
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#490 [13:23] <Lutzee> ahg, anyone want to do my uml work? >.>
#491 [13:24] <worldmc> uml?
#492 [13:24] <sugoi> ha, um no
#493 [13:24] <Lutzee> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Modeling_Language
#494 [13:24] <Lutzee> nasty buisness related way of structuring programs
#495 [13:25] <sugoi> Lutzee: you might know or have guessed, but in the 'real' world, we don't follow uml, we just pick two or three shapes and stay consistent at least once per document :)
#496 [13:25] <Lutzee> sugoi: Yep, doesn't stop universities insisting we learn it
#497 [13:26] <sugoi> that's because phd's have used them a crap ton of times in overly verbose theses
#498 [13:27] <sugoi> and profs love a good 20 page thesis or acclaimed paper on cs that could take 2 sentences to explain
#499 [13:27] <TheNoodle> Also they're bored.
#500 [13:27] <sugoi> :)
#501 [13:28] <Lutzee> It doesn't help that this module has no programming in it what so ever, i have no way of putting what i'm doing into any context
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#503 [13:32] <Lutzee> sugoi: my uni bought rationalrose at the start of this academic year and insist we use it.. i just looked up the price and its like $5000 per unit, and its not been updated at all in 6 years..
#504 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> 'rationalrose'?
#505 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> as opposed to irrational roses?
#506 [13:33] <Lutzee> http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/developer/rose/
#507 [13:34] <sugoi> per license*?
#508 [13:35] <Lutzee> not sure, what i see is "per seat"
#509 [13:35] <sugoi> seat and license are good
#510 [13:35] <sugoi> just not unit
#511 [13:35] <sugoi> well...in my lingo :)
#512 [13:35] <Lutzee> seat confused me a little
#513 [13:36] <sugoi> it's just what we say for each 'user'
#514 [13:36] <sugoi> but it may not be one user, depending on the semantics
#515 [13:36] <sugoi> so they just say 'seat' to be general (typically tho, it's one user)
#516 [13:36] <sugoi> for example, a class could buy 10 seats, and let 30 students use those 10 seats
#517 [13:37] <worldmc> lol
#518 [13:37] <Lutzee> Yes, i understand
#519 [13:37] <Lutzee> My uni bought like 400 seats
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#521 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: that's the thing, per-user and per-seat are different licensing models
#522 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> I have one per-user license for $PROGRAM, so I can install it on 53 computers and use them all at the same time, and it's legit
#523 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> if I wanted to do that with per-seat, I'd need 53 seat licenses
#524 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> the advantage of per-seat licensing is if I have a bank of 20 computers that 400 people use, I get 20 seats and I'm good, rather than 200 persons.
#525 [13:43] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: that's what i incoherently was saying
#526 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> ITC: DopeGhoti is a lens. (:
#527 [13:45] <Lutzee> :| they hide half the utilities i needed, no wonder i've been sitting here confused
#528 [13:45] <DopeGhoti> that sounds helpful.
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#538 [14:30] <Assassin> I need help My minecraft keeps crashes im bnew so :\ Yeah Mods dont work for me also could you help really want bioms o plenty but i do as they say and it doesnt work
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#541 [14:34] <Assassin> Help Minecraft crashes and want biom o plenty could you help
#542 [14:35] <worldmc> Assassin please read topic
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#554 [15:14] <dervishkid> io, everytime i start MC up my network gets tied up. MC/java eating up so much bandwith. and it's not even for MC. the server i play on lags hardcore. so what might be java doing anyone know?
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#559 [15:17] <cannira> hi any german here?
#560 [15:18] <tyteen4a03> cannira, not sure
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#562 [15:19] <cannira> hmm anyway, i try to aks in english
#563 [15:20] <cannira> did someone know if there is any mod like slopes?
#564 [15:20] <tyteen4a03> ??> cannira mods
#565 [15:20] <VoxelHead> cannira: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#566 [15:20] <VoxelHead> cannira: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#567 [15:20] <cannira> ok
#568 [15:22] <cannira> hmm do you think or know if such block will be inserted in the game oflicially?
#569 [15:22] <cannira> sometim
#570 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> We do not know
#571 [15:24] <cannira> thanks anyway =)
#572 [15:24] <cannira> gb
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#575 [15:25] <makeshiftanthony> Hello, when i download a custom map, what .minecraft folder to i put it in to play?
#576 [15:25] <makeshiftanthony> Do*
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#578 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> makeshiftanthony: into a new directory in saves
#579 [15:26] <makeshiftanthony> So i judt drop it on saves?
#580 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> e. g. .minecraft/saves/swankynewworld
#581 [15:26] <makeshiftanthony> just*
#582 [15:26] <darthalex99> make sure it is extracted
#583 [15:26] <darthalex99> if in a zip file
#584 [15:26] <makeshiftanthony> yes i have 7-zip
#585 [15:26] <darthalex99> ok then put that extracted folder in saves
#586 [15:26] <darthalex99> :)
#587 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> right- and be sure it's extracted into its own directory
#588 [15:27] <makeshiftanthony> Alright, Thank you.
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#594 [15:37] <dervishkid> anyone got a clue on why when MC running my Ping to teamspeak, teh web and all the MC server goes to the insane (1000+)
#595 [15:37] <darthalex99> :o
#596 [15:37] <darthalex99> idk
#597 [15:37] <Hujop> minecraft isnt working on windows 8 for me
#598 [15:37] <Hujop> how do i fix it?
#599 [15:37] <Hujop> it wont download
#600 [15:38] <sugoi> Hujop: sounds like antivirus blocking java
#601 [15:38] <sugoi> you're talking about post-login from the launcher, right?
#602 [15:38] <Hujop> ok and yes
#603 [15:38] <Hujop> when i try to log in i get the message saying that the game has not been completely downloaded
#604 [15:39] <darthalex99> when I had norton it blocked it
#605 [15:39] <darthalex99> do you have norton?
#606 [15:40] <Hujop> yes
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#610 [15:40] <darthalex99> try disabling that or find someway to allow minecraft
#611 [15:40] <darthalex99> but I think that is the problem
#612 [15:40] <Hujop> thank you it is working now
#613 [15:40] <darthalex99> kk :)
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#620 [15:54] <laz> hello, how can i delete my mojang account?
#621 [15:54] <Lutzee> Er, you can't
#622 [15:55] <laz> Oh
#623 [15:55] <laz> So there is no possible way?
#624 [15:55] <laz> I thought you could before.
#625 [15:56] <Lutzee> Er, no you have never been able to delete any type of account provided my mojang
#626 [15:56] <laz> I'm pretty sure, that's why I made an account.
#627 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> There has been no provided method of deleting an account once made
#628 [15:57] <laz> Why is that?
#629 [15:58] <Lutzee> Because if an account is comprimised anyone can thn delete the account
#630 [15:58] <laz> Well
#631 [15:58] <laz> Darn...
#632 [15:58] <sugoi> laz: you could change your password to some random string, and then forget said password
#633 [15:59] <sugoi> laz: haha, but why?
#634 [15:59] <laz> Like I don't want so many account on my email.
#635 [15:59] <sugoi> ./facepalm
#636 [16:00] <sugoi> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/901432-changing-your-email-address
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#638 [16:00] <laz> So I can just make my email to some random one and forget about it? :P
#639 [16:01] <Lutzee> laz: its advised moving the account to a spare email address
#640 [16:01] <Lutzee> Incase you want the account again..
#641 [16:03] <laz> Ok
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#644 [16:07] <spazattac> minecraft wont work on my new mac
#645 [16:07] <spazattac> it says its brocken
#646 [16:08] <Lord_Ralex> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#647 [16:08] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#648 [16:08] <Lord_Ralex> ?? mac/gatekeeper/disable
#649 [16:08] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper/disable: If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
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#651 [16:09] <spazattac> that didnt work
#652 [16:09] <Lutzee> Disable it, details here http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
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#654 [16:11] <LDIAZ> my ftb launcher is giving me problems
#655 [16:11] <Lutzee> ??> LDIAZ mods
#656 [16:11] <VoxelHead> LDIAZ: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#657 [16:11] <VoxelHead> LDIAZ: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#658 [16:11] <LDIAZ> thanks
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#664 [16:14] <LDIAZ> i keep getting java.lang.NumberFormatException:for input string
#665 [16:15] <LDIAZ> what can i do
#666 [16:15] <LDIAZ> which Java should i use
#667 [16:15] <DiskDaemon> You should use the 64-bit version of Java 7
#668 [16:15] <spazattac> how do i get rid of gatekeeper
#669 [16:15] <DiskDaemon> That is, if you have a 64-bit operating system
#670 [16:15] <DiskDaemon> ??> spazattac mac/gatekeeper
#671 [16:15] <VoxelHead> spazattac: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#672 [16:15] <DiskDaemon> ??> spazattac mac/gatekeeper/disable
#673 [16:15] <VoxelHead> spazattac: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#674 [16:16] <LDIAZ> i have a 64 bit operating system
#675 [16:16] <LDIAZ> I have an asus
#676 [16:16] <LDIAZ> and I currently have java version 7 update 10
#677 [16:17] <DiskDaemon> Good one, so it's the 64-bit version of java that you need to have installed, from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#678 [16:19] <Lord_Ralex> LDIAZ, this is with the vanilla client?
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#680 [16:19] <LDIAZ> I have Java 7 so
#681 [16:19] <LDIAZ> why isnt it working
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#683 [16:20] <DiskDaemon> LDIAZ: Ahh, you mentioned before that you're using ftb. We don't deal with modded situations here
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#685 [16:20] <DiskDaemon> There is the #FTB irc channel that you can go to though
#686 [16:21] <LDIAZ> which one
#687 [16:21] <DiskDaemon> and there's a special #ftblauncher channel too, for issues dealing with that
#688 [16:21] <LDIAZ> which channel
#689 [16:21] <DiskDaemon> LDIAZ: I've just mentioned two of the channels for you there
#690 [16:22] <LDIAZ> i didnt SEE THE CHANNEL NAME
#691 [16:22] <LDIAZ> sorry im new at this
#692 [16:22] <rymate1234> Its #FTB
#693 [16:22] <DiskDaemon> LDIAZ: They have a # at the start of their name
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#698 [16:29] <spazattac> servers wont work on my mac
#699 [16:29] <sugoi> spazattac: can you elaborate?
#700 [16:29] <Aladardog> IMac says Mindcraft is damaged and should move to trash
#701 [16:30] <sugoi> ??> Aladardog mac/gatekeeper
#702 [16:30] <Aladardog> cant open download at all
#703 [16:30] <VoxelHead> Aladardog: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#704 [16:30] <sugoi> ... is that the message i wanted?
#705 [16:31] <spazattac> never mind i restarted and it worked
#706 [16:31] <sugoi> DiskDaemon: ? ^ i thought it'd say to disable/bypass gatekeeper
#707 [16:31] <Lord_Ralex> sugoi, yeah, that is the message for that
#708 [16:31] <Lord_Ralex> mac/gatekeeper/disable is for disabling it
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#710 [16:32] <Aladardog> Still says the same thing
#711 [16:32] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Aladardog mac/gatekeeper/disable
#712 [16:32] <VoxelHead> Aladardog: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#713 [16:33] <Aladardog> correct, nor the control click option
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#719 [16:38] <Aladardog> Can't figure out how to disable gatekeeper? Can I cancel my Mindcraft order and get my $ back?
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#722 [16:39] <Lord_Ralex> See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#723 [16:39] <DiskDaemon> Aladardog: Do you see the minecraft.app file?
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#725 [16:39] <Aladardog> yes
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#727 [16:39] <DiskDaemon> right-click on that file, and choose open
#728 [16:40] <Aladardog> doesnt work
#729 [16:40] <DiskDaemon> And disabling gatekeeper doesn't help?
#730 [16:40] <Aladardog> no
#731 [16:40] <Bugboy1028> Aladardog, did you knoew how to disable gatekeeper?
#732 [16:40] <DiskDaemon> Hmm, you may need to contact customer support about that then
#733 [16:40] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#734 [16:41] <Aladardog> tried to disable, but cant seem to do it
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#736 [16:43] <Aladardog> got it thx!!
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#742 [16:49] <Marc_IRL> hiyooo
#743 [16:49] <DiskDaemon> hey there
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#745 [16:50] <YinTaiYang> Hi
#746 [16:50] <YinTaiYang> How do you "fake" multple servers?
#747 [16:50] <YinTaiYang> like the way spookycraft does
#748 [16:50] <DiskDaemon> YinTaiYang: Sorry, we don't deal with that here
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#751 [16:51] <YinTaiYang> Should i go to #bukkit
#752 [16:51] <DiskDaemon> That could be a good idea
#753 [17:00] <Marc_IRL> It's a bukkit plugin called multiverse
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#755 [17:02] <Marc_IRL> So DiskDaemon, since I've been gathering more technical support resources, I think I'm going to break out the help topics into their own articles, so they're not all jammed into one
#756 [17:02] <DiskDaemon> Nice idea
#757 [17:02] <Marc_IRL> Elystus gave me some new info, and it deserved its own article. Had one or two that were on their own, so I might as well split it off.
#758 [17:03] <Marc_IRL> I think a new article heading is in order for this
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#760 [17:07] <BTS> hi. i need help.
#761 [17:07] <DiskDaemon> What can we help with?
#762 [17:08] <BTS> my friend is trying to get onto my multiplayer server but it gives him a error message saying "connection refused"
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#764 [17:10] <BTS> Hello?
#765 [17:11] <BTS> anyone here?
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#767 [17:11] <DiskDaemon> BTS: sure thing. Why is the connection refused? Is there a poor connection btween him and you?
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#770 [17:12] <BTS> no we are connected to the exact same wifi.
#771 [17:12] <DiskDaemon> BTS: What is the local IP address of the server?
#772 [17:13] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: Might want to restructure where the location of some of the article sections are, EG accounts at the top, with the troubleshooting neat the top too, and stuff like getting started and playing further down
#773 [17:13] <BTS> 0.0.0.0:50542
#774 [17:13] <Lutzee> Ah..
#775 [17:13] <Lutzee> yeah that is wrong
#776 [17:13] <DiskDaemon> BTS: That doesn't look to be valid
#777 [17:13] <Marc_IRL> One of those sections is going away soon
#778 [17:14] <BTS> well i published it again this morning and this ip came up.
#779 [17:14] <DiskDaemon> BTS: The local ip address will start with either 192.168.*.* or 10.*.*.*
#780 [17:14] <BTS> really?
#781 [17:14] <DiskDaemon> definately
#782 [17:15] <BTS> when i published it it said "server published on 0.0.0.0:50542.
#783 [17:15] <DiskDaemon> BTS: Why are you publishing it? Both you and he are on the same wifi, so you have no external connection needs
#784 [17:15] <Lord_Ralex> Open to LAN DiskDaemon
#785 [17:16] <BTS> i also want my other friends to come on though
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#787 [17:16] <DiskDaemon> External connections bring their own complexities and problems, so let's make sure that things work locally first before moving on to troublehooting more complex situations
#788 [17:17] <DiskDaemon> BTS: Are you running a minecraft server, or are you using open to lan?
#789 [17:19] <BTS> im trying to run a minecraft server but when ever my friends enter the ip it gives me it gives them the error message "cannot connect to server connection refused".
#790 [17:19] <DiskDaemon> BTS: Okay, so you need to first check that things work locally first. If something is wrong locally, then external connections are guaranteed to fail too. Start with the simple and then build out from there
#791 [17:20] <DiskDaemon> BTS: The computer that's running the local server. Can you run Minecraft on that same computer and successfully connect to the server at 127.0.0.1 ?
#792 [17:21] <BTS> ill try.
#793 [17:23] <BTS> same error message.
#794 [17:23] <DiskDaemon> BTS: Your friend is getting the same error message?
#795 [17:23] <BTS> yes.
#796 [17:23] <DiskDaemon> BTS: But I'm not asking your friend to do anything. I'm asking you to start Minecraft on the same computer that the server is running, and to connect that Minecraft to 127.0.0.1
#797 [17:24] <DiskDaemon> BTS: It's foolishly futile for your friend to attempt to do anything before we know that your server setup is working at all
#798 [17:24] <BTS> how does he do that?
#799 [17:24] <DiskDaemon> BTS: He doesn't!
#800 [17:25] <BTS> I dont get you!!!!!
#801 [17:25] <DiskDaemon> BTS: If you continue to fail to follow my simple instructions, I cann't continue to attempt to help you
#802 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> BTS: Your friend wants to connect, but cannot because something is wrong. What is wrong? That's what we're trying to work out. Your friend needs to stop being involved for several hours until we figure out and fix your problem
#803 [17:27] <BTS> Give me a moment, please. I have someone here now who can help me understand and follow your instructions. One moment please.
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#805 [17:28] <Lord_Ralex> i still don't get if he is using open to lan or actually using the minecraft_server.exe, the messages he gave earlier are given using the open to lan
#806 [17:29] <DiskDaemon> Lord_Ralex: It's the latter
#807 [17:29] <Lord_Ralex> errors he gave were from the former though, and his answer was not really specific .-.
#808 [17:29] <DiskDaemon> Or at least, if he's using open to lan then he's doing things completely wrong. That will never work if he wasn't others outside of his local connection to connect
#809 [17:30] <DiskDaemon> s/wasn't/wants
#810 [17:30] <Lord_Ralex> BTS, are you pressing the "open to lan" to start the server or using a minecraft_server.exe?
#811 [17:30] <BTS> No
#812 [17:31] <Lord_Ralex> no is not an anwer
#813 [17:31] <BTS> Not processing the "open to pan"
#814 [17:31] <BTS> Sorry. Hit return instead of space.
#815 [17:31] <BTS> Typo again. I don't press "open to pan"
#816 [17:31] <Lord_Ralex> which method are you doing, the button or running the server exe?
#817 [17:32] <Lord_Ralex> then how did you see this: <BTS> when i published it it said "server published on 0.0.0.0:50542.
#818 [17:32] <DiskDaemon> BTS: Would you like instructions on how to correctly run a Minecraft server?
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#820 [17:32] <BTS> I open the mine craft program. I login. I go to sinlge player server and select the server I am trying to publish. then I do /publish.
#821 [17:32] <Lord_Ralex> okay
#822 [17:33] <BTS> DiskDaemon: I would love those instructions!
#823 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> BTS: The details on setting up a Minecraft server are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#824 [17:34] <BTS> Wonderful, DiskDaemon. I'll read through that and hopefully all will be right with the world. Thank you for your help and patients.
#825 [17:34] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#826 [17:35] <Lord_Ralex> DiskDaemon,
#827 [17:35] <Lord_Ralex> crap
#828 [17:35] <Lord_Ralex> stupid cat
#829 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> Give the cat lots of love and cuddles :)
#830 [17:35] * Lord_Ralex cannot see his keyboard and is not exactly great at knowing where keys are by memory
#830 [17:35] <Lord_Ralex> DiskDaemon, said cat is sitting on my lap and blocking the keyboard and part of the screen .-.
#831 [17:36] <Lord_Ralex> and now, she lays on my arm
#832 [17:36] <Lord_Ralex> thank you DiskDaemon -.-
#833 [17:36] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, thereby forcing you to give him lots of attemption. clever cat
#834 [17:37] <Lord_Ralex> her*
#835 [17:37] <DiskDaemon> clever feline
#836 [17:37] <Lord_Ralex> but how can i give her love if she is on one of the arms
#837 [17:38] <Lord_Ralex> plan was not thought out that well
#838 [17:38] <DiskDaemon> I believe that the plan is for you to free up your arm, thus making it available for stroking
#839 [17:39] <Lord_Ralex> she just sleeps with me at night, i think that is enough .-.
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#841 [17:40] <DiskDaemon> She's a cat, you can never give her too much attention
#842 [17:40] <Lord_Ralex> i have 2 as well
#843 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> So you're a sucker for punishment
#844 [17:41] <Lord_Ralex> .-.
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#849 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> !topic /1/z.*I/mch_rules/
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#855 [18:04] <Hyoomin> Hello; for some reason the Minecraft Demo won’t run on my Mac. What gives?
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#860 [18:10] <Hyoomin> Vasher, for some reason the Minecraft Demo won’t run on my Mac. What gives?
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#862 [18:15] <tyteen4a03> ??> Hyoomin demo
#863 [18:15] <VoxelHead> Hyoomin: (demo) You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#864 [18:15] <Hyoomin> VoxelHead, such as?
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#866 [18:16] <tyteen4a03> Hyoomin, not running is a perfect example
#867 [18:16] <Hyoomin> Well yes, but how do I get it to run?
#868 [18:17] <tyteen4a03> Hyoomin, as VoxelHead told you, use the web demo instead
#869 [18:17] <Marc_IRL> Bad video card drivers appears as a crash error, right?
#870 [18:17] <Hyoomin> I WAS using the web demo.
#871 [18:17] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: correct
#872 [18:17] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL, yes
#873 [18:17] <tyteen4a03> Hyoomin, is there an error message?
#874 [18:17] <Hyoomin> It doesn’t crash; the screen just goes white. You can click the buttons if you are lucky enough to find them.
#875 [18:18] <tyteen4a03> Hyoomin, what version of osx are you on?
#876 [18:18] <Hyoomin> 10.6.8.
#877 [18:18] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: example error is here http://pastebin.com/ cgZS86wL (remove the space, as it will trigger the bot)
#878 [18:18] <tyteen4a03> Hyoomin, upgrade your driver here: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1573
#879 [18:18] <tyteen4a03> *java
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#881 [18:19] <tyteen4a03> (note to self: just because they sound the same doesn't mean they are interchangeable)
#882 [18:19] <Hyoomin> Shouldn’t System Update have already taken care of that?
#883 [18:20] <NinjaKirby> Uhyea shieeeeeee-
#884 [18:20] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, wat
#885 [18:20] <Lutzee> Hyoomin: yeah, no welcome to technology
#886 [18:21] <NinjaKirby> tyteen4a03: Don't mind me
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#888 [18:21] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, you're forgiven
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#890 [18:21] <Hyoomin> How do I check my current Java install so I can verify that it hasn’t already been installed?
#891 [18:21] <tyteen4a03> Hyoomin, did you recently run Apple Update? if so, did Apple Update tell you to upgrade your grahphics driver too?
#892 [18:21] * NinjaKirby clicks his fingers
#892 [18:21] <tyteen4a03> ??> Hyoomin java/version
#893 [18:21] <VoxelHead> Hyoomin: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#894 [18:21] <VoxelHead> Hyoomin: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
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#896 [18:22] <tyteen4a03> Hyoomin, if it says "1.6.0_37", then it's updated
#897 [18:22] <Hyoomin> I run it fairly regularly; unless it was an update in the last few weeks, I doubt I’m missing any.
#898 [18:22] <tyteen4a03> It came out on october
#899 [18:23] <tyteen4a03> ok, I need to go, Lutzee please pick him up and NinjaKirby needs to stay in his corner
#900 [18:23] <Lutzee> software update doesn't always update java because apple is stupid
#901 [18:23] * Rolando|MC is now known as Rolando|Food
#902 [18:23] <Eddie> \o/
#903 [18:23] <Hyoomin> VoxelHead, that page doesn’t work for Mac versions of Java; it just says “Use System Update”.
#904 [18:24] <tyteen4a03> Eddie, you what
#905 [18:24] <tyteen4a03> ok, really need to poof
#906 [18:25] <Hyoomin> Terminal gives me... java version "1.6.0_37"
#907 [18:25] <Lutzee> Well... then you are on the latest version of java 6
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#909 [18:26] <Lutzee> Which is the version you should be using
#910 [18:26] <Hyoomin> Right.
#911 [18:26] <Hyoomin> It doesn’t work in Safari or Firefox.
#912 [18:27] <Marc_IRL> Does the video card driver error ever occur on Mac?
#913 [18:27] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: not often, then again, most macs have good enough graphics cards, or are powerPC macs that cant really run the game anyway
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#915 [18:29] <Marc_IRL> Elystus gave me instructions on how to locate the drivers for windows and linux, but not Mac. Sounds like Mac users don't really have to worry, though (or if they do, buy a new computer because yours is ten years old)
#916 [18:29] <Lutzee> Pretty much
#917 [18:29] <Elystus> Pretty much
#918 [18:29] <Lutzee> :3
#919 [18:29] <Elystus> it is a rare occurrence for that to happen on a mac
#920 [18:30] <Elystus> very very rare
#921 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> Apple has AMD and NV drivers built-in to the OS
#922 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> the only macs with which you can even change the GPU are the Mac Pro desktops
#923 [18:30] <Lutzee> Oh, DopeGhoti Can you confirm whether minecraft works on mac with java 7 at all?
#924 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> and if you're spending $5,000 on a desktop, it's probably not for Minecraft (:
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#926 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> Lutzee: I can confirm Java 7 on Mac Lion / Mountain Lion working with vanilla Minecraft as of a couple months ago
#927 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> I ahve a mac, but am still running Snow Leopard, which used Java 1.6
#928 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> I ahve a mac, but am still running Snow Leopard, which used Java 1.6
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#930 [18:32] <Lutzee> hmm okay i just want to know the real cause of this http://pastebin.com/Lr9brbfb
#931 [18:32] <Lutzee> Er even though that is modded should be the same error
#932 [18:33] <DiskDaemon> The real cause? It's modded
#933 [18:33] <Hyoomin> DopeGhoti, that’s what I’m running; Snow Leopard.
#934 [18:33] <Lutzee> I've seen occurances of it with unmodded
#935 [18:33] <Hyoomin> 10.6.8.
#936 [18:33] <Lutzee> here http://pastebin.com/7iz4VqFj
#937 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> looks like also a OS X LWJGL problem
#938 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php?topic=4326.0
#939 [18:34] <DiskDaemon> I've seen that error happen when OSX is using MultiMC too
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#941 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> "In the long run this means that since its not possible to embed a context directly into AWT anymore, the OS X port of LWJGL needs to be completely rewritten using something like Cocoa."
#942 [18:37] <Lutzee> Okay, which means for now any one with that error will need to use java 6, I believe an article might help with that
#943 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> ??+ error/JAWT|If you're getting a Java crash referencing a JAWT interface exception, it may be an issue with one of the libraries Minecraft uses. http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php?topic=4326.0 has a lot of analysis of this problem. A similar thread which indicates a fix may be availalbe soon can be seen here: http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,4711.120.html
#944 [18:38] <|Anthony|> What is the character limit for in game chat?
#945 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> one second, |Anthony|
#946 [18:38] <Lutzee> Let me check..
#947 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> my IRC/MC bridge uses 85 characters as the cutoff
#948 [18:39] <|Anthony|> that sounds familiar
#949 [18:39] <Lutzee> 100
#950 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> based on the color codes and [...] append I do, it's probably closer to 92
#951 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> or 100 (:
#952 [18:40] <|Anthony|> Lutzee, where are you getting that number?
#953 [18:40] <Lutzee> The code
#954 [18:40] <|Anthony|> oh
#955 [18:40] <|Anthony|> hehe
#956 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> 100, also known as "Mojang arbitrarily picked that number out of the air for no technical reason"
#957 [18:40] <|Anthony|> meh... i'm about to comment on dbo for a plugin that is considering changing to a scripting language... i want to remind the author about the chat limit
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#959 [18:41] <|Anthony|> thanks for the info guys
#960 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> sure thing
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#962 [18:42] <bludboi2k12> How could i contact Mojang about minecraft being on youtube?
#963 [18:42] <Lutzee> Er, what do you mean bludboi2k12 ?
#964 [18:42] <Lutzee> The terms and brand states in game content is allowed to be published on youtube
#965 [18:43] <bludboi2k12> say i wanted to put minecraft videos on youtube some companies take it as copyright i was wondering how to contact Mojang to find out their rules and regs about having videos on youtube
#966 [18:44] <Lutzee> minecraft.net/terms and minecraft.net/brand
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#968 [18:44] <bludboi2k12> Thanks ^^
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#970 [18:46] <Hyoomin> So... I’m running the right Java; what next?
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#972 [18:49] <denden216> Hello
#973 [18:49] <denden216> I need server help urgently
#974 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> denden216: please state the nature of the SMP Server emergency.
#975 [18:49] <denden216> Anyone here have any ideas?
#976 [18:49] <denden216> MY server keeps spamming the connected players
#977 [18:49] <denden216> its been doing this for 2/3 days now
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#979 [18:50] <denden216> every 5 seconds it says the connected players
#980 [18:50] <denden216> anyone got any idea why?
#981 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> in public chat?
#982 [18:50] <denden216> no
#983 [18:50] <denden216> in console
#984 [18:50] <Lutzee> That is multipanel
#985 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#986 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> runnning any mods or using any sort of control wrapper?
#987 [18:50] <denden216> i use multicraft and a bukkit beta
#988 [18:50] <denden216> r0.3
#989 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> try vanilla
#990 [18:50] <Lutzee> er yeah mutlicraft i mean
#991 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> if the problem goes away, then it's one of the mods.
#992 [18:50] <Lutzee> It is multicraft, your webgui
#993 [18:51] <cj134679> windows 8 toshiba computer bad video card driver how do i fix that
#994 [18:51] <denden216> http://gyazo.com/eeb460232418f0ef2597eb3e83c646d5
#995 [18:51] <Lutzee> ??> cj134679 win/dxdiag
#996 [18:51] <VoxelHead> cj134679: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#997 [18:51] <VoxelHead> cj134679: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#998 [18:51] <denden216> thats my plugins
#999 [18:51] <denden216> you see that?
#1000 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> denden216: try vanilla
#1001 [18:51] <Lutzee> denden216: The messages are produced my multicraft.
#1002 [18:51] <denden216> no
#1003 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#1004 [18:51] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1005 [18:51] <denden216> oh
#1006 [18:51] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1007 [18:51] <denden216> really?
#1008 [18:51] <denden216> I have to use mutlicraft
#1009 [18:51] <Lutzee> denden216: yes
#1010 [18:52] <denden216> Is there no way of fixing this?
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#1012 [18:52] <Lutzee> Um, not sure, if you are lucky its a config option for multicraft, ask your host
#1013 [18:52] <denden216> yeah ill take a look nwo that I know what it is it wont be too hard
#1014 [18:52] <denden216> thanks
#1015 [18:53] <Hyoomin> So if we could get back to the web demo not working... ?
#1016 [18:53] <cj134679> custmore care num
#1017 [18:54] <Lutzee> cj134679: please follow VoxelHeads instructions
#1018 [18:54] <Lutzee> ??> cj134679 win/dxdiag
#1019 [18:54] <VoxelHead> cj134679: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1020 [18:54] <VoxelHead> cj134679: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1024 [19:03] <norbert> how do i change my veiw in the game
#1025 [19:03] <DiskDaemon> F5
#1026 [19:04] <Hyoomin> Umm... what’s the deal? Are you researching the problem or something?
#1027 [19:04] <Hyoomin> *expected to be forwarding error logs or something by now*
#1028 [19:05] <DiskDaemon> Hyoomin: DopeGhoti was saying that you would need to use Java 6 instead
#1029 [19:05] <norbert> Thank You my 6 year old is playing and he did not know what he did
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#1031 [19:06] <Hyoomin> Instead of java version "1.6.0_37"
#1032 [19:06] <Hyoomin> ?
#1033 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> err, it was Lutzee who said that, sorry DopeGhoti. DopeGhoti provided some links to articles that should be of some help
#1034 [19:07] <Lutzee> DiskDaemon: He has java 6
#1035 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> ?? error/JAWT
#1036 [19:07] <VoxelHead> error/jawt: If you're getting a Java crash referencing a JAWT interface exception, it may be an issue with one of the libraries Minecraft uses. http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php?topic=4326.0 has a lot of analysis of this problem. A similar thread which indicates a fix may be availalbe soon can be seen here: http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,4711.120.html
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#1038 [19:08] <Ironwolf426> un
#1039 [19:08] <Hyoomin> I’m not getting a crash... the display is just drawn white.
#1040 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> Hyoomin: Are you on a mac?
#1041 [19:09] <Hyoomin> *slaps his face and tries to contain his anger by holding the bridge of his nose for a moment*
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#1043 [19:10] <Marc_IRL> Interesting visual
#1044 [19:10] <Marc_IRL> Hey, new bad video card drivers error article: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/928493-error-bad-video-card-driver
#1045 [19:10] <Ironwolf426> unable to download program windows8 asks to run program & then never completes downloading. have already been playimg for several days
#1046 [19:10] <Lutzee> Hyoomin: Not everyone reading this has read everything you have said
#1047 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> Hyoomin: Or are you on a Linux machine? Or a windows one?
#1048 [19:10] <Hyoomin> Yes, that is the very first thing I said. I am on a Mac running 10.6.8, and java version "1.6.0_37".
#1049 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> Hyoomin: We'll want to see a crash report. You can get one by following the instructions from http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Mac_OSX and then paste it to pastebin for us to see
#1050 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#1051 [19:10] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1052 [19:10] <Hyoomin> The web demo doesn’t work in either Safari or Firefox.
#1053 [19:11] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: might want to hyperlink the "start" key to:
#1054 [19:11] <Lutzee> ?? win/key
#1055 [19:11] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1056 [19:11] <Hyoomin> Is there a crash report if it doesn’t crash?
#1057 [19:11] <Lutzee> ?? win/key/image
#1058 [19:11] <Lutzee> sorry
#1059 [19:11] <VoxelHead> win/key/image: NOTE: It is the one in the middle. May not appear exactly as shown. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Ctl_wndws_alt.jpg
#1060 [19:11] <Hyoomin> As I said, the screen draws white. You can still click buttons, if you can find them.
#1061 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> Oh yes, it's a problem with the demo, on a mac. I'm sorry but I'm not sure of how that can be troubleshooted on a mac.
#1062 [19:11] <Marc_IRL> People really don't know what the windows/start key is?
#1063 [19:12] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: Not really no..
#1064 [19:12] <DiskDaemon> We get asked what it is, and where, several times a day at times
#1065 [19:12] <Marc_IRL> heh
#1066 [19:12] <Marc_IRL> updated
#1067 [19:12] <cestislife> "Flag key"
#1068 [19:12] <Hyoomin> DiskDaemon, should I still try and get you a crash report/log file or somesuch?
#1069 [19:12] <DiskDaemon> Giving it a different non-standard name is only asking for more trouble than it resolves
#1070 [19:13] <cestislife> >_>
#1071 [19:13] <cestislife> Though that image could use a facelift
#1072 [19:13] <Marc_IRL> I swore it was called the windows key
#1073 [19:13] <Hyoomin> Tell them it’s the virus key, and if they don’t touch it they’ll get a virus.
#1074 [19:13] <DiskDaemon> Hyoomin: The minecraft forum has some good troubleshooting for the mac at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/649868-guide-mac-support-101/
#1075 [19:13] <Hyoomin> The irony being, they already have a virus.
#1076 [19:14] <Marc_IRL> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_key
#1077 [19:14] <cestislife> It is called the windows key
#1078 [19:14] <cestislife> People just aren't aware of it.
#1079 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> Hyoomin: It inclused info about fixing the the demo at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1402943-minecraft-131-demo-crash-fix-macintosh/
#1080 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> cestislife: That's why we even give them a picture
#1081 [19:14] <Marc_IRL> I was only aware that it was called that :p
#1082 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/key/image
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#1084 [19:14] <VoxelHead> win/key/image: NOTE: It is the one in the middle. May not appear exactly as shown. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Ctl_wndws_alt.jpg
#1085 [19:14] <Marc_IRL> pressing F1 gives me help, but it's not called the help key, haha
#1086 [19:15] * Lutzee presses f1, gets the hexchat website open
#1086 [19:15] <cestislife> lol
#1087 [19:16] <DiskDaemon> I'd better not press the F1 key on this laptop, it has a crescent moon on it which doesn't bode well
#1088 [19:16] * oldtopman presses F1, gets the xchat site
#1088 [19:16] <Lutzee> My sleep key is in a sensible place, on the pause/break key
#1089 [19:17] <Hyoomin> DiskDaemon, that seems considerably more helpful. Thank you.
#1090 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> My father's keyboard has the power key just below the Delete key, and that power key gets accidentally pressed all the time. We took the pliers to it last week
#1091 [19:17] <Lutzee> What brand is it?
#1092 [19:17] <oldtopman> Mine's even more sensible. You have to press the Fn key to do anything nasty >.>
#1093 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> I think that it's a cheap Genius keyboard
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#1095 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> I believe that I have changed my laptop so that Fn is not active by default. It's a shame that you can't trust the function keys to perform actual functions nowdays
#1096 [19:19] <oldtopman> All of my Fn keys work :P
#1097 [19:19] <oldtopman> Especially the frontlit keys.
#1098 [19:19] <oldtopman> That button is the most important.
#1099 [19:20] <Lutzee> I should probably be careful to be honest, i've mapped the win key to one of my macro buttons so i can use the win key as a game button instead
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#1103 [19:24] <Hyoomin> O.K., the keystroke trick worked.
#1104 [19:24] <LunarHydra> minecraft won't load. It gets stuck on the "downloading terrain." what do I do?
#1105 [19:24] <Hyoomin> All the fussing over certificates is not very cool, though, that should be taken care of.
#1106 [19:24] <Lutzee> Hyoomin: not so easy unfortunately
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#1109 [19:26] <LunarHydra> anyone know how to fix the problem getting minecraft to load. It get's stuck on "dowloading terrain."
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#1111 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> LunarHydra: Bukkit?
#1112 [19:26] <LunarHydra> what does bukkit mean?
#1113 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> It's a modded version of Minecraft that commonly experiences that problem.
#1114 [19:27] <LunarHydra> I see. So what do I do?
#1115 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> LunarHydra: Are you using any mods, or a changed version of the game?
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#1117 [19:27] <LunarHydra> I'm only using the version that is dowloaded off of main site
#1118 [19:28] <LunarHydra> I've just started playing last week and have not added anything
#1119 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> Good one - a crash report can help you to resolve this issue http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#1122 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> LunarHydra: Is this when you are playing single player, or multiplayer
#1123 [19:29] <LunarHydra> yes
#1124 [19:29] <LunarHydra> singleplayer
#1125 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> yes is not an answer
#1126 [19:29] <LunarHydra> sorry
#1127 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> ahh, thanks
#1128 [19:29] <LunarHydra> what do ya think
#1129 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> Does it happen with new worlds that are created, or only when you try to load an existing world?
#1130 [19:30] <LunarHydra> only when I try to load an existing world. I haven't tried to create a new world yet
#1131 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> That might be a good thing to try
#1132 [19:31] <DiskDaemon> Meanwhile, if you can link me to a world that you are trying to load, I can attempt to load that too and clarify any potential issues
#1133 [19:31] <LunarHydra> How do I link you to that world
#1134 [19:31] <DiskDaemon> Give me the web site link for a world that you have obtained
#1135 [19:32] <LunarHydra> not sure where that is
#1136 [19:32] <DiskDaemon> A name?
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#1138 [19:33] <LunarHydra> I'm not sure where I would get a name if it won't load? sorry. What to do?
#1139 [19:33] <mpq1969> just purchased Minecraft for my son but the game lags so much on my laptop that it is completely non-playable. why is this.
#1140 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> LunarHydra: How can I get one of those worlds that you are having trouble with?
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#1142 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> mpq1969: Which is it? networking lag or framerate lag?
#1143 [19:34] <mpq1969> I guess you might call it framerate. It is like this immediately when starting the game.
#1144 [19:34] <mpq1969> It doesn't do this on the Ipod so I know it is not the wifi
#1145 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> mpq1969: Let's find out some info about your laptop
#1146 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> ??> mpq1969 win/dxdiag
#1147 [19:34] <VoxelHead> mpq1969: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1148 [19:34] <VoxelHead> mpq1969: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1149 [19:37] <mpq1969> http://pastebin.com/yFn5NNN7
#1150 [19:37] <mpq1969> Is this what you mean?
#1151 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> mpq1969: Yes thanks. Your slow fraerate is due to the intel graphics chip being used on your laptop.
#1152 [19:38] <mpq1969> So either update the graphics card or the game will continue to lag?
#1153 [19:39] <DiskDaemon> The intel graphics chip is not really designed to handle such games
#1154 [19:39] <Lutzee> Nor is the physical chip designed to be upgraded
#1155 [19:39] <mpq1969> Any suggestions other than buy new laptop?
#1156 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> Yes, all of these optimizations http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/
#1157 [19:40] <mpq1969> I will check those out. Thank You for the help
#1158 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> It's a lot of work, but you should be able to improve things significantly by following all of that advice
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#1162 [19:51] <Eddie> HD 4000 is fairly decent for light gaming.
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#1166 [19:54] <Lunarhydra> One of my world's doesn't load, but the others do. What do I do?
#1167 [19:54] <Dervishkid> OK, here a issue. MC off. Internet fine. Ping to teamspeak good. web servers good. Ping testing MC server all good. 120 or less.
#1168 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> Lunarhydra: You can revert to a backup of that world
#1169 [19:54] <Dervishkid> start MC client everything 1000+ 20 sec delays and tears all around
#1170 [19:54] <Lunarhydra> How do I do that?
#1171 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> Lunarhydra: You would need to have made a backup first, before the problem occurred
#1172 [19:55] <Lunarhydra> Oops. I did not manually make any back ups. Are they made automatically?
#1173 [19:55] <NinjaKirby> Dervishkid: Using an onboard NIC? How old is it?
#1174 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> Lunarhydra: nope
#1175 [19:56] <Dervishkid> maybe a year
#1176 [19:56] <Lunarhydra> I see. Is there anything else I can do?
#1177 [19:56] <Dervishkid> it is a Onboard NiC but this issue just started not long ago
#1178 [19:56] <Lunarhydra> BTW: How do I manually make back ups?
#1179 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> Lunarhydra: That all depends on what the problem is. Do you have a crash report?
#1180 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> Lunarhydra: By copying the folder to somewhere else, is a common technique
#1181 [19:57] <Dervishkid> it's only when MC running that the whole thing jacks up
#1182 [19:57] <Lunarhydra> I did get a crash report, but I deleted it
#1183 [19:57] <NinjaKirby> Dervishkid: Not any software interacting/prioritising traffic is there?
#1184 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> Lunarhydra: Get another one then
#1185 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> ??> Lunarhydra pastebin
#1186 [19:57] <VoxelHead> Lunarhydra: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1187 [19:57] <Dervishkid> i thought the same thing. Did a full format and reinstall
#1188 [19:57] <NinjaKirby> Like some super fancy uber Gaming card
#1189 [19:57] <Dervishkid> still doing it
#1190 [19:57] <Lunarhydra> okay, I follow your instructions
#1191 [19:58] <NinjaKirby> Dervishkid: Lawdie, I'm inclined to think, if you have a dedicated PCI NIC in another spare machine, try switching to it briefly, heh.
#1192 [19:58] <Dervishkid> i not just talking about MC lagging too servers. when MC on the whole Network is laged up
#1193 [19:58] <Dervishkid> even my teamspeak Ping is 1383 atm
#1194 [19:58] <Dervishkid> turn MC off. normal ping times return
#1195 [19:59] <Dervishkid> but heck with it. i got a 2nd NiC( my gaming PC has 2) i switch it off to the other one and see what happens
#1196 [19:59] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, strange situation. Unless a Switch or Router is dealing with the traffic poorly
#1197 [20:00] <NinjaKirby> Astronomical CSMA/CD trouble.
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#1199 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> I guess he launched his MC server, heh
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#1202 [20:04] <NinjaKirby> Fifteen snowballs lying there on the ground.
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#1205 [20:04] <azd> uh on my new imac i tryed downloading it and it sais the fyle is broken
#1206 [20:05] <NinjaKirby> ??> azd mac/gatekeeper
#1207 [20:05] <VoxelHead> azd: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#1208 [20:05] <DiskDaemon> azd: That's a common mac issue - please also see http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/649868-guide-mac-support-101/ for further details
#1209 [20:05] <NinjaKirby> I believe file corrupt or broken... what he said
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#1211 [20:08] <NinjaKirby> I pray he found salvation; a solution to his first world problem.
#1212 [20:08] <NinjaKirby> I find it's handy saying that, it aids keeping perspective on reality when people winge about stupid stuff at work.
#1213 [20:09] <NinjaKirby> Hits it home too, when I find myself winging.
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#1220 [20:13] <Lunarhydra_> How do I create back ups of my worlds? I see how to make a copy of the world, but everything I created is lost.
#1221 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> Lunarhydra: Is this for a world that you are now having trouble with?
#1222 [20:14] <Lunarhydra_> yes. I was able to make a copy of it. But everything I created wasn't in it
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#1225 [20:15] <DiskDaemon> Lunarhydra: That seems to imply that there is a physical hard drive error that's causing your problem
#1226 [20:15] <Lunarhydra_> My other two worlds load fine.
#1227 [20:16] <Lunarhydra_> It is just the one does not work. Here is the name: Foresty Fortress
#1228 [20:16] <DiskDaemon> Lunarhydra: Is that a world that is avaiable for others to download from somewhere?
#1229 [20:17] <Lunarhydra_> I have not made it available. I don't know how
#1230 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> Then that would be a no, then
#1231 [20:17] <Lunarhydra_> right
#1232 [20:18] <NinjaKirby> No way it's still being accessed, I guess, restricting interaction.
#1233 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> Lunarhydra: So, how to fix your problem. I would cast suspicion on a partly damaged hard drive first, and attempt to fix that issue by using SpinRite.
#1234 [20:18] <Lunarhydra_> I understand.
#1235 [20:18] <Lunarhydra_> If I end up creating the world again. How do I back it up so this doesn't happen again?
#1236 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> You can use the normal copy/paste technique to copy the world folder to some other location
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#1238 [20:19] <Lunarhydra_> where is the folder?
#1239 [20:19] <Lunarhydra_> what is the location of the folder
#1240 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> You already asked that
#1241 [20:20] <Brenn932> Who is notch
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#1243 [20:20] <Lunarhydra_> oops, did I get an answer
#1244 [20:20] <DiskDaemon> The .minecraft/ folder has a saves folder inside of which contains a separate folder for each world
#1245 [20:20] <DiskDaemon> Lunarhydra: Patience - it was being typed out
#1246 [20:20] <Lunarhydra_> sorry
#1247 [20:20] <Lunarhydra_> thanks. got it
#1248 [20:21] <Brenn932> Who is Notch
#1249 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> Brenn932: Notch is the alias for Markus Persson
#1250 [20:21] <Lunarhydra_> is that folder under c:/ program files
#1251 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> ??> Lunarhydra win/.minecraft
#1252 [20:21] <VoxelHead> Lunarhydra: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1253 [20:21] <Brenn932> Who is that
#1254 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> Brenn932: He's the creator of Minecraft
#1255 [20:22] <Lunarhydra_> okay. let me try that
#1256 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> Lunarhydra: You can also get there more easily, by opening the texture packs folder from within the game
#1257 [20:24] <Brenn932> So, let me get this straight. Notch is only an Allie to the creator?
#1258 [20:25] <Lunarhydra_> I'm checking out your second technique
#1259 [20:25] <DiskDaemon> Brenn932: Notch is the creator. The one person has a real name of Markus Persson and the same person has an online alias that he goes by called Notch
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#1262 [20:27] <Brenn932> Cool thanks but does Notch have a weird skin that is a guy and he has a beard?
#1263 [20:27] <DiskDaemon> yes
#1264 [20:28] <Lunarhydra_> DiskDaemon. the second approach was easier. I will simply make back up copies of the folder for each world and save them on my back up drive. Correct?
#1265 [20:28] <Brenn932> Thanks
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#1268 [20:30] <Jose> How do I download game...all I get is a black screen on my computer
#1269 [20:30] <DiskDaemon> minecraft.net/download
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#1271 [20:31] <Lunarhydra_> thanks for your help
#1272 [20:31] <Lunarhydra_> bye
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#1276 [20:31] <Jose> Ive tried that....download the application, run it and brings me to a screen that had version 1.4.7 or something...then it does nothing
#1277 [20:31] <DiskDaemon> What happens instead?
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#1280 [20:32] <DiskDaemon> Does the computer turn off? Does everything hang? Does it tell you that it couldn't download? Does it say that login failed? Does the screen go white? Black? Blue? Brown?
#1281 [20:33] <Jose> black screen then it hangs.
#1282 [20:33] <Jose> doesn't say fail or anything.
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#1284 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> Okay, let's get some details about that http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#1286 [20:35] <Jose> Ok...it's going to take me a bit. It completely is freezing up my computer.
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#1299 [21:03] <NinjaKirby> I just scored One google result, ghad dayum.
#1300 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> Clever - there was a site where you can enter such 1-hit results
#1301 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> googlewhack.com
#1302 [21:05] <NinjaKirby> Hmm, according to the Wiki definition, mine doesn't count in that sense, but awesome :D
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#1304 [21:06] <NinjaKirby> I just lost connection... amazing.
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#1318 [21:26] <Geena> How do I download minecraft on iPad 4?
#1319 [21:27] <DiskDaemon> You would need to purchase the Portable Edition of Minecraft
#1320 [21:28] <Andrio> It's actually called the Pocket Edition.
#1321 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, the pocket edition. It's a different version of Minecraft developed by a different company
#1322 [21:28] <Marc_IRL> Mojang makes pocket edition :p
#1323 [21:28] <Marc_IRL> Aron, Johan, Jens and Daniel K work/have worked on it
#1324 [21:29] <NinjaKirby> ... Oh Shieeeeee-
#1325 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> Sorry Marc, I seem to be getting the xbox version details mixed up with things
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#1327 [21:29] <Marc_IRL> http://minecraft.net/pocket
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#1329 [21:29] <Marc_IRL> Oh, also... there is now a technical support section, instead of one article
#1330 [21:29] <Marc_IRL> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/420959-minecraft-troubleshooting/articles
#1331 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> Nice job there
#1332 [21:32] <Geena> Is ipad4 a Mac? I bought the full version. Can I download it to my iPad?
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#1334 [21:33] <DiskDaemon> Geena: The full version that you purchased from Mojang cannot be downloaded to the ipad
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#1337 [21:36] <NinjaKirby> Time to dive deep in dem pockets, and acquire 2,915.95 Zimbabwean Dollars, to purchase the wealth that is Minecraft, Pocket Edition.
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#1340 [21:38] <Marc_IRL> That happens surprisingly often
#1341 [21:38] <NinjaKirby> Darnit, twelve thousand nine hundred and twenty seven; fourty-nine somalian shillings, would have been a better way of phrasing it.
#1342 [21:38] <Marc_IRL> "I can't download Minecraft onto my <incompatible device>"
#1343 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> But I want to play Minecraft on my 486 computer. It plays other blocky games fine
#1344 [21:39] <ihdcool09> O
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#1351 [21:56] <Marc_IRL> Okay, I quit for the day. See you all later.
#1352 [21:56] <Lutzee> Hmm Marc_IRL, mojang dont happen to do any sponsorships for students at uni do they? ;o
#1353 [21:56] <Marc_IRL> not that I know of
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#1355 [21:57] <TheNoodle> lol Lutzee
#1356 [21:57] <Lutzee> It would be nice.. i really should find something :p
#1357 [21:57] <TheNoodle> Cash in where ever you can :P
#1358 [21:57] <Lutzee> Worth a try :D
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#1361 [22:02] <TheNoodle> How much are your fees anyway?
#1362 [22:02] <patrick_> my son just purchased minecraft from gmae stop. We converted the account to mojang first time it loaded it went to a black screen. any idea how to fix this
#1363 [22:03] <cestislife> patrick_ what OS are you using?
#1364 [22:03] <patrick_> xp
#1365 [22:03] <patrick_> all av disabled
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#1368 [22:07] <patrick_> sorry vista sp2
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#1372 [22:09] <patrick_> any idea
#1373 [22:10] <Rokaccia> Force update?
#1374 [22:10] <patrick_> tried that
#1375 [22:11] <Rokaccia> Does the account work normally, with the site?
#1376 [22:11] <patrick_> i find nothing on the harddrive for minecraft except the minecraft
#1377 [22:11] <patrick_> not sure what you mean?
#1378 [22:12] <patrick_> multi player
#1379 [22:12] <Rokaccia> Can you login to www.minecraft.net with your son's account?
#1380 [22:13] <patrick_> i get play in brouser or download screen
#1381 [22:15] <patrick_> i click on play in brouser and it starts then nothing. if i click on download it allows me to download the file and run but then back to black screen.
#1382 [22:21] * Gone_Ralex is now known as Lord_Ralex
#1383 [22:22] <patrick_> is there a keystroke to switch from full screen
#1384 [22:23] <Lord_Ralex> yes, although don't recall exactly (thinking F11 or F12)
#1385 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> F11
#1386 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> The same as for most web browsers
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#1389 [22:26] <Turk32> Is there a problem with logging in to 1.4.7 today?
#1390 [22:26] <Turk32> my user/pass which has worked for 2 yrs is now failing.
#1391 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> There's no problem that we know of
#1392 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> Turk32: Do you have a mojang.com account, or a minecraft.net account?
#1393 [22:27] <patrick_> mojang we just converted tonight
#1394 [22:27] <Turk32> had a minecraft.net account, but when tried to migrate after all the failed logins, it won't recognize my user/pass combo at all.
#1395 [22:27] <DiskDaemon> Turk32: Can you log in to the mojang.com web site?
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#1399 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> Turk32: mojang.com accounts use the email with which to login with. You need to use that same email when logging in to the game launcher
#1400 [22:28] <Turk32> not under minecraft.net info, but just tried creating a new mojang acct and can now. Using the same email my minecraft did. when tried migrating using my minecraft.net acct, it failed. didn't recognize my user.
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#1402 [22:29] <DiskDaemon> Turk32: Where is your premium account located. Is it at mojang.com or is it at minecraft.net ?
#1403 [22:29] <Turk32> I have been using my minecraft.net account for 2 yrs. only when it upgraded from 1.4.6 to 1.4.7 did this happen.
#1404 [22:29] <Turk32> minecraft.ne
#1405 [22:29] <Turk32> t
#1406 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> Turk32: Can you successfully log in to minecraft.net ?
#1407 [22:30] * cestislife is now known as cestislife|lunch
#1408 [22:30] <Turk32> no. it won't take my user/pass.
#1409 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> Turk32: Okay, reset your password for that account then
#1410 [22:30] <Turk32> I don't know why. worked 2 days ago, before upgrade to 1.4.7
#1411 [22:31] <DiskDaemon> Turk32: Shall we try and get things going, or shall we complain that things used to work
#1412 [22:31] <DiskDaemon> The choice is up to you
#1413 [22:31] <Turk32> not complaining, just noting.
#1414 [22:31] <Turk32> didn't know if there was glitch with 1.4.7. just reset password, waiting to see if email comes
#1415 [22:32] <DiskDaemon> Please remember that nobody providing help here is paid to do so. We are volunteers from around the world that love the game, and want to help others to enjoy it too
#1416 [22:32] <DiskDaemon> We don't work for Mojang, in other words
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#1418 [22:32] <Turk32> apologies if I came across that way.
#1419 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> SO how are things going with resetting your password, so that we can get you logged in to the minecraft.net web site?
#1420 [22:35] <Turk32> reset it. went to log in, failed again.
#1421 [22:35] <Turk32> reset it again, same result.
#1422 [22:35] <Turk32> bizarre....
#1423 [22:35] <DiskDaemon> What are you attempting to log in to. The game laucher?
#1424 [22:36] <Turk32> minecraft.net, right after I reset password. tried launcher too, no go.
#1425 [22:36] <DiskDaemon> Let us first make sure that your minecraft.net account is working. If it's not, the launcher is guaranteed to fail.
#1426 [22:36] <DiskDaemon> Turk32: What happens when you attempt to reset the password. Can you walk me through what occurs?
#1427 [22:37] * Rolando|Food is now known as Rolando
#1428 [22:37] <Turk32> I put my user in. it sent me a reset email. I clicked the reset link, typed in new password, it said Successful, and still couldn't log in. used minecraft.net username/new pass
#1429 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> That certainly sounds like it should be working.
#1430 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1431 [22:38] <Turk32> it's recognizing my user, it sent the email.
#1432 [22:38] <Turk32> Thanks, DD.
#1433 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> We had someone here who can help with specific account issues before, but he's headed off now
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#1435 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> I try to keep it simple, so that we can easily tell what the problem is and if possible, resolve it :)
#1436 [22:39] <Turk32> appreciate your help. goodnight.
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#1440 [22:44] <StinkyFeetKai> I cannot open the program. I've downloaded the windows version, but it will not run after I click run.
#1441 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> What happens instead?
#1442 [22:44] <StinkyFeetKai> nothing at all
#1443 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> How odd. Is it possible to gain further details about what is happening there? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#1447 [22:47] <LoneHunter> How do I find a specific minecraft server?
#1448 [22:47] <DiskDaemon> ?? smp/servers
#1449 [22:47] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1450 [22:47] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#1451 [22:48] <LoneHunter> Mhm, thanks
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#1455 [23:03] <Ghostofeasthalls> My game keeps stalling when downloading the terrain. Then once the game begins, the terrain does not finish loading, all enemies are frozen, and the game is completely unplayable. My other world that I have been playing in remains intact and completely playable. How do I fix theissues in the first game mentioned?
#1456 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> Ghostofeasthalls: Is it possible for us to see a crash report from when that occurs? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1457 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#1458 [23:04] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1459 [23:04] <Ghostofeasthalls> It's not crashing. It lets me run around and do nothing on the little terrain it does formulate
#1460 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> The crash report provides all sorts of other useful info about what may be causing the problem. Please humour us.
#1461 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> it may just help
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#1468 [23:25] <Brenn932> Where can i find servers
#1469 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> ?? smp/servers
#1470 [23:25] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1471 [23:25] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#1472 [23:25] <Brenn932> thanks
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