#MinecraftHelp > 2013-01-12
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#23 [00:51] <|Anthony|> !login
#24 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/ configrms that it's a login and accounts issue
#25 [00:53] <|Anthony|> This happens 3 - 4 times a month
#26 [00:53] <cestislife|afk> it happened yesterday too actually.
#27 [00:53] <cestislife|afk> iirc
#28 [00:54] <|Anthony|> and seems like it happens most often on...
#29 [00:54] <|Anthony|> the weekend
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#39 [01:08] <nipper> Me4502 is asking to be unbanned. He said he is messing with his internet connection.
#40 [01:09] <DiskDaemon> He will be automatically unbanned in a short while
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#42 [01:14] <mau5ie> hahahahaha
#43 [01:14] <mau5ie> Me4502 got banned?
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#48 [01:23] <gizzmo23> i cant open minecraft
#49 [01:23] <DiskDaemon> Yes, logins are currently down at the moment
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#51 [01:23] <`Kelby> hallo?
#52 [01:23] <cestislife> Both mojang and mc logins, apparently
#53 [01:23] <DiskDaemon> See http://help.mojang.com/
#54 [01:23] <cestislife> Hello `Kelby.
#55 [01:24] <`Kelby> howzit?
#56 [01:24] <gizzmo23> my bad i cant open the downloaded version of minecraft
#57 [01:24] <`Kelby> i was wondering.... i can't login to minecraft. is there like.... a problem? or is it cause i haven't touched the thing in two years?
#58 [01:25] <DiskDaemon> Sorry, but you won't be able to use the download launcher to download and update Minecraft until after the login is working. It went down just a few minutes ago, and could be several hours before it's up again
#59 [01:25] <`Kelby> '
#60 [01:26] <`Kelby> sorry. eating pizza and a tomato fell on the keyboard.
#61 [01:26] <gizzmo23> when i try to open it a window pops up say it could not create java virtual machine
#62 [01:27] <DiskDaemon> gizzmo23: Let's see what we're dealing with
#63 [01:27] <DiskDaemon> ??> gizzmo23 win/dxdiag
#64 [01:27] <VoxelHead> gizzmo23: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#65 [01:27] <VoxelHead> gizzmo23: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#66 [01:27] <`Kelby> i can't remember what my login name is. is there a way to find that out?
#67 [01:28] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: After the login system is working, that can be done
#68 [01:28] <`Kelby> okies
#69 [01:29] <gizzmo23> ????
#70 [01:29] <DiskDaemon> gizzmo23: Are you having trouble following VoxelHead's instructions?
#71 [01:29] <DiskDaemon> gizzmo23: Are you having trouble following VoxelHead's instructions?
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#73 [01:32] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon, another person who can't read!
#74 [01:32] <DiskDaemon> We find them everywhere
#75 [01:32] <mau5ie> Or rather, they find you. :P
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#77 [01:33] <Iaccidentally> whats a read?
#78 [01:33] <Iaccidentally> how2read?
#79 [01:33] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft has some of them, you use them to make sugar
#80 [01:34] <cestislife> Reed, or sugarcane.
#81 [01:34] <mau5ie> Yes, cestislife. That was the joke. ._.
#82 [01:34] <DiskDaemon> No, that's a reed. A read is a noxious plant that takes over your garden
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#84 [01:34] <mau5ie> lol'd.
#85 [01:35] <cestislife> This is what happens when you don't read the 5 previous lines in IRC.
#86 [01:35] <cestislife> >_>
#87 [01:35] <cestislife> <_<
#88 [01:36] <mau5ie> heh.
#89 [01:38] <`Kelby> i also have no idea what email i used to register minecraft severl years ago. can i figure that out somehow?
#90 [01:39] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: Yes, after the login server is working again. That will take a few hours
#91 [01:40] <`Kelby> if i was dumb enough to use my old university email, of which i no longer have access to, cause they cut off my email after i graduate.... am i screwed, or can i transfer emails somehow?
#92 [01:41] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: Mojang have help for you with that - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/901432-changing-your-email-address
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#94 [01:43] <Coll> is minecraft down?
#95 [01:43] <Coll> oh
#96 [01:44] <Coll> answered thanks
#97 [01:46] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon, y u no .sitedown
#98 [01:46] <tyteen4a03> !login
#99 [01:47] <DiskDaemon> tyteen4a03: no permission
#100 [01:47] * tyteen4a03 pokes DopeGhoti
#100 [01:47] <tyteen4a03> .sitedown Minecraft login servers are currently having issues. Mojang is aware of this problem and will fix them shortly. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#101 [01:47] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
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#103 [01:52] <`Kelby> i'm trying to join a multiplayer, but it keeps saying bad login. am i doing something wrong, or is it a THING?
#104 [01:52] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: Logins are currently broken
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#106 [01:53] <cestislife> `Kelby, for future reference, check the login servers, here, help.mojang.com
#107 [01:53] <`Kelby> yeah.... i don't actually know what a login is, or what a broken login would affect.
#108 [01:54] <`Kelby> so.... while i know things are broken, i don't know like... what that means.
#109 [01:54] <tyteen4a03> `Kelby, the Login servers are down
#110 [01:54] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: Anything to do with people logging in, is broken.
#111 [01:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Kelby: You can't log in.
#112 [01:54] <tyteen4a03> guys: login *server
#113 [01:55] <tyteen4a03> to stop people from thinking it's a problem on their end
#114 [01:55] <DiskDaemon> I've just checked help.mojang.com - the login servers seem to be up now
#115 [01:55] <tyteen4a03> !login
#116 [01:55] <tyteen4a03> I'll wait until the next hour to .siteup
#117 [01:56] <DiskDaemon> 5 minutes then :)
#118 [01:58] <`Kelby> it still says badlogin when i try to join multiplayer
#119 [02:00] <tyteen4a03> !login
#120 [02:00] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: When you ping session.minecraft.net - what is the IP address of that location?
#121 [02:00] <tyteen4a03> .siteup
#122 [02:00] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
#123 [02:00] <tyteen4a03> now I must idle
#124 [02:02] <`Kelby> uh...
#125 [02:02] <`Kelby> what?
#126 [02:02] <DiskDaemon> idle, as in do nothing
#127 [02:03] <`Kelby> sorry. i am INCREDIBLy stupid. please treat me as such, and use tiny, tiny, TINY words.
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#129 [02:04] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: What is their IP?
#130 [02:06] <`Kelby> um.
#131 [02:06] <`Kelby> is that the numbers thing?
#132 [02:07] <DiskDaemon> yes, that is the numbers thing, for session.minecraft.net which the multiplayer stuff tries to connect with
#133 [02:07] <`Kelby> 69.165.136.111
#134 [02:07] <tyteen4a03> !check 69.165.136.111
#135 [02:07] <tyteen4a03> sorry, I couldn't resist :(
#136 [02:07] <DiskDaemon> That looks to be the wrong IP address. Is that the IP address that you have for session.minecraft.net ?
#137 [02:08] <`Kelby> i don't know what session minecraft is.
#138 [02:08] <`Kelby> how do i figure out how to find the right number for you?
#139 [02:08] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: That's why we've asked you to ping them. You are told in the ping information what the IP address for that location is
#140 [02:08] <`Kelby> how do i ping them
#141 [02:08] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: Do you need to know how to ping somewhere?
#142 [02:09] <`Kelby> i don't know what a ping is.
#143 [02:09] <DiskDaemon> Here's how - http://www.mediacollege.com/internet/troubleshooter/ping.html
#144 [02:09] <`Kelby> is says i have to blah blah blah domain name
#145 [02:09] <`Kelby> what's a domain name?
#146 [02:10] <tyteen4a03> google.com is a domain name
#147 [02:10] <DiskDaemon> session.minecraft.net is the domain name
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#149 [02:11] <`Kelby> i have to do this, or he does it on his comp?
#150 [02:11] <DiskDaemon> It's all you man
#151 [02:12] <`Kelby> i'm a girl. i'm like... a really dumb girl who can barely play tetris so minecraft is the only thing i can very very barely figure out how to play. cause computer stuff for me is hard.
#152 [02:12] <mau5ie> Tetris is hard. :c
#153 [02:12] <DiskDaemon> Okay, that's going to stretch my capabilities somewhat, especially at this time of night
#154 [02:13] <`Kelby> 54.243.79.232
#155 [02:13] <DiskDaemon> Thanks, that looks to be a different IP address from what I'm currently getting
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#157 [02:14] <xMcLightningX> hello i was going to try minecraft for my girlfriend but then noticed there was no paypal opption has this been taken off
#158 [02:14] <DiskDaemon> Can anyone else who can login to a server confirm whether session.minecraft.net is that ip address, or this one at 50.19.234.138 ?
#159 [02:15] <DiskDaemon> xMcLightningX: Paypal cannot be used for buying gift codes http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/434710-can-i-use-paypal-to-buy-a-gift-code-
#160 [02:16] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: If your IP address for session.minecraft.net is wrong, then something about your DNS setup needs to be dealt with before you will be capable of connecting to the server
#161 [02:16] <xMcLightningX> Ah i see but if i made a account with my girlfriend then bought it strait i could
#162 [02:16] <DiskDaemon> yes
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#164 [02:16] <xMcLightningX> thanks was wondering what happend chheers
#165 [02:17] <`Kelby> my boyfriend says to tell you the ping works, but something won't let me login to the server.
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#167 [02:17] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: WIth session.minecraft.net - the ping should not work. If you are getting a working ping then something is definately wrong on your side of things
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#169 [02:18] <`Kelby> he pinged the ip.
#170 [02:18] <`Kelby> when i did the session thing, it got request timed out
#171 [02:19] <xMcLightningX> okay new question how come all the time i get minecraft server busy untill i refresh a couple of time on minecraft.net
#172 [02:19] <DiskDaemon> Yes, and session.minecraft.net should always result in a request time out. If you are instad getting a successful ping, then your Domain Name System (DNS) is pointing to the wrong location for session.minecraft.nt
#173 [02:20] <DiskDaemon> Instead of being 54.243.79.232 that you came up with before, I'm showing 50.19.234.138 for session.minecraft.net instead. One is wrong. Which one?
#174 [02:20] <xMcLightningX> i get there if i refresh a couple of times
#175 [02:21] <`Kelby> i got it!
#176 [02:21] <DiskDaemon> xMcLightningX: An inconsistant networking connection?
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#178 [02:21] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: You got an understanding of things, or a connection to the server?
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#180 [02:23] <DiskDaemon> I've just logged in to a minecraft server successfully, so I claim that 50.19.234.138 is the correct IP for session.minecraft.net and that you need to do something to fix the problem on your end of things.
#181 [02:23] <DiskDaemon> `Kelby: How technical shall we get about trying to fix this problem that you are having?
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#183 [02:25] <DiskDaemon> ??> `Kelby win/hosts
#184 [02:25] <VoxelHead> `Kelby: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#185 [02:25] <VoxelHead> `Kelby: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#186 [02:26] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#187 [02:26] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#189 [02:30] <`Kelby> what's a windows key
#190 [02:30] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/key
#191 [02:31] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#192 [02:31] <`Kelby> is that the thing with the little.... four squary flag thing on it?
#193 [02:31] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/key/image
#194 [02:31] <VoxelHead> win/key/image: NOTE: It is the one in the middle. May not appear exactly as shown. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Ctl_wndws_alt.jpg
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#196 [02:33] <`Kelby> how do i open it with notepad?
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#198 [02:35] <DiskDaemon> Open notepad, and drag the file into there?
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#200 [02:35] <`Kelby> huh.... neat
#201 [02:36] <`Kelby> http://pastebin.com/qE8BQMWg
#202 [02:36] <`Kelby> is that it?
#203 [02:36] <DiskDaemon> Thanks, everything's looking good in there, which means that the issue causing you the DNS trouble with session.minecraft.net is elsewhere
#204 [02:37] <`Kelby> my comp is also running like.... super slow
#205 [02:37] <DiskDaemon> Other potential causes are where your router is directing its DNS queries to, or your ISP itself. If it's your ISP causing the issue then you can jsut wait a day or so and they will update their records with the new IP address for session.minecraft.net
#206 [02:38] <`Kelby> blink.
#207 [02:38] <`Kelby> um
#208 [02:38] <`Kelby> k?
#209 [02:38] <DiskDaemon> It get technical and hard to figure out other potential causes.
#210 [02:38] <`Kelby> ok
#211 [02:38] <`Kelby> i'm sorry i'm utterly computer dumb.
#212 [02:38] <DiskDaemon> When did you say that this multiplayer trouble began?
#213 [02:39] <`Kelby> it doesn't help that my boyfriend is basically laughing his ass off at me, while he gets to play just fine
#214 [02:39] <`Kelby> we just started up minecraft again a few hours ago, and i only managed to login when that got fixed and then i couldn't get into his world.
#215 [02:40] <DiskDaemon> Did your router or other networking things change between then and when you were previously able to get in?
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#224 [03:02] <DiskDaemon> nipper: Me4502 can come on back now
#225 [03:03] <TheNoodle> lol
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#232 [03:08] <glupis> not getting mincraft download to work or to play from browser. The primary error message I get is "Cannot create Java Virtual Machine". I have Java v. 7 insta't helplled. I have tried to deactivate both Microsoft firewall and the Panda antivirus. Doesn
#233 [03:08] <DiskDaemon> glupis: Let's get some details about your stystem
#234 [03:08] <DiskDaemon> ??> glupis win/dxdiag
#235 [03:08] <VoxelHead> glupis: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#236 [03:08] <VoxelHead> glupis: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#241 [03:16] <glupis> Not sure I did that correct. But what does it mean that the laptop cant create Java Virtual Machine? thanks
#242 [03:17] <DiskDaemon> It means that Java cannot even get started
#243 [03:17] <DiskDaemon> Java is installed, but there's something about the environment that's not conducive to it getting going
#244 [03:18] <DiskDaemon> To determine more than that requires more info, which is what we're attempting to gain from you
#245 [03:20] <glupis> aha. Ok, is this right? http://pastebin.com/7E2jUgX3
#246 [03:20] <DiskDaemon> yes thanks
#247 [03:22] <DiskDaemon> Nothing looks to be out of place there
#248 [03:22] <DiskDaemon> Oh, apart from the graphcis drivers being a few years out of date, but that wouldn't result in the java virtual machine not wanting to load it
#249 [03:23] <DiskDaemon> We should be able to gain further information from Java about what the issue it may be facing, with http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#250 [03:24] <glupis> hmm. ok. Laptop is a bit old but thought the graphics was sufficient. Should I use your link to get a crash report? thanks
#251 [03:24] <DiskDaemon> yes
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#255 [03:42] <glupis> C:\Users\Adam\Desktop>"C:\Program Files/Java/jre7/bin/java" -Xms1G -Xmx1G -cp "C :\Users\Adam\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\*" -Djava.library.path="C:\Users\Ada m\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft Det går inte att hitta sökvägen. C:\Users\Adam\Desktop>pause Tryck ned valfri tangent för att fortsätta...
#256 [03:42] <DiskDaemon> glupis: Use pastebin thanks
#257 [03:43] <glupis> ok
#258 [03:43] <DiskDaemon> Oh hang on
#259 [03:43] <DiskDaemon> That's saying that it can't find the java program?
#260 [03:44] <DiskDaemon> That means that you either don't have Java 7 installed, or, that you do but it's the 32-bit version when you need the 64-bit version to be installed instead.
#261 [03:44] <glupis> http://pastebin.com/gjt7J8FC not sure it is a crash report though. I've tried to run according to instructions, but seems I'm doing something wrong
#262 [03:44] <DiskDaemon> You can get the 64-bit version of Java that you need, fromhttp://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#263 [03:46] <glupis> alright. I'll tried that.
#264 [03:50] <glupis> that was it. My son ask me to say thank you!....;-) It was the 64bit missing.
#265 [03:50] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#293 [05:04] <Guest__> can any why tell me why minecraft .com are now down?
#294 [05:05] <tyteen4a03> !login
#295 [05:05] <tyteen4a03> !isdown
#296 [05:05] <GreyBot> tyteen4a03: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#297 [05:05] <tyteen4a03> Guest__, looks like Minecraft login server is unstable
#298 [05:05] <DiskDaemon> .sitedown Minecraft login servers are currently having issues. Mojang is aware of this problem and will fix them shortly. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#299 [05:05] <tyteen4a03> .sitedown Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#300 [05:05] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
#301 [05:06] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon, keep poking
#302 [05:06] <Guest__> Oh..also...i can't download FML,everytime it carsh at "downloading"
#303 [05:06] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest__ mods
#304 [05:06] <VoxelHead> Guest__: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#305 [05:06] <VoxelHead> Guest__: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#306 [05:06] <Guest__> yes
#307 [05:06] <Guest__> mods
#308 [05:06] <DiskDaemon> indeed :)
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#311 [05:09] <VoxelHead> ^_^, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#313 [05:10] <VoxelHead> Guest__, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#316 [05:12] <VoxelHead> Jasmine, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#318 [05:23] <SinZ> Was about to ask, when I saw the .sitedown spam
#319 [05:23] <DiskDaemon> It's looking better at help.mojang.com again now
#320 [05:24] <SinZ> my custom launcher was derping out on the subject
#321 [05:24] <SinZ> when I was doing live testing with some of my servers players
#322 [05:24] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon, probably want to keep it on until the 2 hours
#323 [05:24] <tyteen4a03> *2 hours mark
#324 [05:24] <DiskDaemon> indeed
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#326 [05:25] <VoxelHead> Archer, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#327 [05:31] <SinZ> DiskDaemon: I would request for the mods factoid to direct to #minecraftmodded, but the channel simply isnt equipped for it yet
#328 [05:33] <tyteen4a03> we probably will later on if we #minecraftmodded is up to standards
#329 [05:34] <SinZ> the channels goal, is to be the #minecrafthelp of mods
#330 [05:34] <SinZ> even has my irc bot, running on voxelheads database, aswell as its own
#331 [05:34] <DiskDaemon> SinZ: Have you been seeing what #direwolf20 deals with on a regular basis?
#332 [05:35] <SinZ> DiskDaemon: nup
#333 [05:35] <DiskDaemon> SinZ: That's the home-centre for all things mods
#334 [05:35] <DiskDaemon> In other words, I'd sniff around in there if I were you
#335 [05:35] <SinZ> I dont see how a streamers irc channel, can be the center of all mods
#336 [05:36] <tyteen4a03> SinZ, see: #risucraft
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#338 [05:36] <VoxelHead> tikker, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#339 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> How did a single persons channel become all things development for mods (#risucraft). Some of these things don't make sense, but they exist none-the-less.
#340 [05:37] <tikker> it's a weird world :)
#341 [05:37] <SinZ> isnt #risucraft more aimed at the coding side, than the usage side
#342 [05:38] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that's right. #risucraft is for development, #direwolf20 is for usage
#343 [05:38] <SinZ> imo, I would only expect #direwolf20 to help on the direwolf20 modpack, and even then, they go to #FTB
#344 [05:39] <DiskDaemon> Please educate yourself about their channel. Your expectations don't seem to match up with reality
#345 [05:40] <SinZ> I was much more up-to-date on this stuff during hmod, and early bukkit
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#347 [05:41] <DiskDaemon> At the very least, since they are becomming a known place for people with mods to go, it would be sensible for you to squat in there and help people to find out more about #minecraftmodded, wouldn't it?
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#349 [05:41] <VoxelHead> Bugboy1028, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#350 [05:42] <SinZ> DiskDaemon: yup
#351 [05:42] <DiskDaemon> and potentially you can feed off of some of their mod helping techniques too
#352 [05:43] <SinZ> and their mod helpers
#353 [05:45] <DiskDaemon> The top three channels on esper.net with more than 400 users are #minecraft, #bukkit and #direwolf20. That's followed by #bukkitdev, #redpower, #minecraftforge, #ftb, #sk89q and #risucraft
#354 [05:45] <DiskDaemon> Many of those could have things to help with
#355 [05:48] <tyteen4a03> oh, we're the 1th
#356 [05:48] <tyteen4a03> *16th
#357 [05:48] <SinZ> I used to be in #bukkit, but haven't rejoined after my bouncer lost internet access
#358 [05:49] <DiskDaemon> Indeed, we try to feed people out of this channel as fast as they come in though
#359 [05:51] <SinZ> DiskDaemon: Feel free to idle in #minecraftmodded, as I add more factoids to a second voxelhead database
#360 [05:52] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, I have a bakers dozen of channels already. Which to toss? Decisions . . .
#361 [05:52] <SinZ> shame I don't have a stable webserver, to host a page simular to ?? index
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#363 [05:53] <VoxelHead> Valerie, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#364 [05:53] <tyteen4a03> attach the page to the bot
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#366 [05:54] <VoxelHead> Kalanugetti, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#367 [05:54] <SinZ> tyteen4a03: howso?
#368 [05:54] <tyteen4a03> SinZ, well the faqdatabase is managed by the php bot
#369 [05:55] <SinZ> but the bot is in PHP CLI
#370 [05:55] <tyteen4a03> SinZ, there's an article somewhere about making PHP host a http server as well
#371 [05:55] <tyteen4a03> forgot where it is, probably a 5.4 feature
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#373 [05:56] <VoxelHead> Helloman892, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#374 [05:57] <Helloman892> I thought so.
#375 [05:57] <Helloman892> Login servers are messed up.
#376 [06:00] <Kalanugetti> hey, I keep having 7-16fps while playing... what would be best settings? My processor is intel pentium p6100 @2ghz(2cpus), 4gb ram, graphics card; intel hd graphics
#377 [06:01] <DiskDaemon> Kalanugetti: The best settings are where you have higher performing hardware
#378 [06:01] <Helloman892> Hey, Kalanugetti.
#379 [06:01] <Helloman892> What Disk said.
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#381 [06:01] <VoxelHead> ac3xx, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#382 [06:01] <DiskDaemon> If you want to only go with software improvements though, you're restricting your improvements severely, but some are possible to achieve. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/
#383 [06:02] <Helloman892> Kalanugetti: It also depends on whether your graphics card is dedicated or integrated.
#384 [06:02] <Morrolan> Intel HD graphics.
#385 [06:02] <Morrolan> Tends to be integrated. :)
#386 [06:02] <Helloman892> Intel integrated chipsets don't play well with Minecraft.
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#388 [06:02] <Helloman892> Morrolan, I know. I was searching all avenues, don't question a master at work :c
#389 [06:03] <Morrolan> Right.
#390 [06:03] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892, you're talking about the old ones, without the word HD in it
#391 [06:03] <tyteen4a03> although those with HD still doesn't work very well, at least it runs
#392 [06:04] <Helloman892> Intel doesn't play well with MC full stop.
#393 [06:04] <Kalanugetti> Alright, thanks for the help
#394 [06:05] <Helloman892> DiskDaemon, he's talking to you.
#395 [06:05] <Morrolan> Kalanugetti - Give Optifine a try, by the way. I guess it'll be mentioned in that ilnk up there.
#396 [06:05] <Morrolan> link*
#397 [06:05] <Helloman892> Again; http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/
#398 [06:05] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892, my definition for "well" is "runs, not much lag", your defintion is probably "high FPS"
#399 [06:05] <DiskDaemon> eh?
#400 [06:06] <tyteen4a03> either way intel gpus are not for running games anyway
#401 [06:06] <Helloman892> tyteen4a03, my definition for "well" is "runs, nought lag" rather than "full settings, high FPS". Even my dad's gaming PC can't take full settings.
#402 [06:06] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892, I see
#403 [06:07] <Helloman892> And yeah, not for games indeed.
#404 [06:07] <tyteen4a03> I have a lower standard then :P\
#405 [06:07] <Helloman892> You do have a lower standard.
#406 [06:08] <Helloman892> And I meant full settings as in Optifine Extreme render distance :P
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#408 [06:11] <VoxelHead> Ramen, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#410 [06:12] <VoxelHead> acmfan, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#415 [06:17] <VoxelHead> Jasmine, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#418 [06:18] <VoxelHead> Bugboy1028, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#421 [06:22] <VoxelHead> benhunter09, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#423 [06:24] <VoxelHead> KindOne, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#426 [06:24] <VoxelHead> Andrio, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#429 [06:34] <VoxelHead> ac3xx, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#432 [06:37] <VoxelHead> Bugboy1028, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#437 [06:49] <VoxelHead> ac3xx, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#439 [06:50] <VoxelHead> Zachoz, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#441 [06:51] <VoxelHead> vlhfan, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#444 [06:53] <VoxelHead> Arle, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#446 [06:54] <benhunter09> lol
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#449 [06:56] <VoxelHead> acmfan, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#450 [06:58] <Helloman892> Best be sure, lol
#451 [06:58] <Helloman892> Best be sure, lol
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#454 [06:59] <VoxelHead> Helloman892, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#457 [07:00] <VoxelHead> Bugboy1028, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#459 [07:04] <VoxelHead> Necrodoom, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#461 [07:12] <VoxelHead> RSMDelons, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#463 [07:13] <VoxelHead> RSMDelons_, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#465 [07:16] <Necrodoom> gah, voxel is on spam setting again
#466 [07:16] <Helloman892> Turn it off damnit
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#469 [07:18] <VoxelHead> Andrio, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#472 [07:19] <VoxelHead> Bugboy1028, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#473 [07:20] <rymate1234> yay
#474 [07:20] <rymate1234> good thing i have pocket edition
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#476 [07:23] <VoxelHead> D4rk_D3mon, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#480 [07:39] <VoxelHead> Bugboy1028, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#481 [07:42] <rymate1234> pp
#482 [07:42] <rymate1234> lol
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#484 [07:43] <VoxelHead> Malvburo, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#485 [07:45] <unimatrix> unstable again?
#486 [07:45] <unimatrix> geez
#487 [07:45] <Necrodoom> when it wasnt unstable?
#488 [07:45] <unimatrix> what company does mojang use
#489 [07:45] <unimatrix> so i know not to go to that DC :p
#490 [07:45] <Necrodoom> moojanga
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#495 [07:56] <VoxelHead> Bugboy1028, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#496 [07:58] <Necrodoom> IGNORE Unknown command
#497 [07:58] <Necrodoom> GRRRRRR
#498 [07:58] <Helloman892> Ugh
#499 [07:59] <Necrodoom> !mute voxelhead
#500 [07:59] <Helloman892> [VoxelHead] is logged in as DopeGhoti
#501 [07:59] <Helloman892> Lolz
#502 [07:59] <Necrodoom> Boreeas: ?
#503 [07:59] <Boreeas> Necrodoom: I was wondering what client doesn't support /ignore
#504 [07:59] <Necrodoom> ah
#505 [08:00] <unimatrix> does anyone know what happend to pmc?
#506 [08:00] <Helloman892> ?
#507 [08:01] <unimatrix> planetminecraft
#508 [08:01] <Helloman892> PMC is still fully functional
#509 [08:01] <Helloman892> Other than some account issues
#510 [08:01] <unimatrix> down for me
#511 [08:01] <unimatrix> :(
#512 [08:01] <Helloman892> planetminecraft.com
#513 [08:01] <Helloman892> Works fine for me.
#514 [08:01] <unimatrix> Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to www.planetminecraft.com
#515 [08:02] <Helloman892> Anything else in the error box?
#516 [08:02] <unimatrix> nope
#517 [08:02] <unimatrix> flushed dns
#518 [08:02] <unimatrix> tried proxy
#519 [08:02] <Necrodoom> yay! PMC is down!
#520 [08:02] <Helloman892> Might be a ISP problem
#521 [08:03] <Helloman892> PMC isn't down, Necrodoom
#522 [08:03] <unimatrix> isp problem?
#523 [08:03] <Necrodoom> aw
#524 [08:03] <unimatrix> so my isp and an isp in 4 dif countries
#525 [08:03] <unimatrix> is having the same issue
#526 [08:03] <unimatrix> with the same website?
#527 [08:03] <Helloman892> Possible
#528 [08:03] <Helloman892> Not likely
#529 [08:03] <Helloman892> But possible
#530 [08:03] <unimatrix> as possible as lance amstrong winning a tour de france without drugs
#531 [08:04] <unimatrix> tracer the dns plz
#532 [08:04] <Helloman892> >implies it's very easy
#533 [08:04] <unimatrix> trace failed from germany , holland , belgium
#534 [08:04] <unimatrix> :p
#535 [08:05] <unimatrix> my 3 boxes couldnt resolve the dns
#536 [08:05] <Helloman892> Mrh
#537 [08:05] <Helloman892> Meh*
#538 [08:05] <Helloman892> Britain rules
#539 [08:05] <Helloman892> OK
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#541 [08:05] <VoxelHead> worldmc, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#543 [08:05] <VoxelHead> RSMDelons, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#545 [08:07] <VoxelHead> Jack, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#550 [08:10] <VoxelHead> Snowman, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
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#552 [08:16] <VoxelHead> manu1709, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#553 [08:16] <Morrolan> !login
#554 [08:17] <manu1709> hey my minecraft dont work anymore .... there comes ....Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Exception occured in ModLoader
#555 [08:17] * Morrolan prods tyteen4a03
#555 [08:17] <manu1709> what can i do to make it run again
#556 [08:17] <worldmc> note: for what i see its only minecraft.net beeing unstable
#557 [08:17] <Helloman892> ??> manu1709 mods
#558 [08:17] <VoxelHead> manu1709: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#559 [08:17] <Morrolan> ??> manu1709 forceupdate
#560 [08:17] <VoxelHead> manu1709: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#561 [08:17] <VoxelHead> manu1709: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#562 [08:17] <VoxelHead> manu1709: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#563 [08:18] <Helloman892> Lol, Morrolan.
#564 [08:18] <benhunter09> lol
#565 [08:18] <worldmc> lol
#566 [08:18] <manu1709> thaks
#567 [08:18] <manu1709> thanks
#568 [08:18] <Morrolan> manu1709 - Also, if you can reproduce it, you might want to contact ModLoader's creator about it, so he can fix it.
#569 [08:18] <worldmc> manu1709 and i highly suggest you switching to forge if possible
#570 [08:19] <Helloman892> Might've been META-INF
#571 [08:19] <Helloman892> And yeah, FML
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#573 [08:19] <Morrolan> META-INF would just lead to the JRE refusing to run the game.
#574 [08:19] <Helloman892> True.
#575 [08:19] <worldmc> yep
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#578 [08:20] <VoxelHead> andy_, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft login servers are currently unstable. Mojang is aware of this issue and will be fixing them very soon. Thank you and have a nice day/night!
#579 [08:20] <Morrolan> .siteup
#580 [08:20] <VoxelHead> Morrolan, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
#581 [08:21] <Morrolan> Meh, I'll just assume that there's no hidden issuse here, given that it seems to work. *shrug*
#582 [08:21] <Helloman892> Ugh
#583 [08:21] <Helloman892> !login
#584 [08:21] <Helloman892> Good, still working
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#587 [08:26] <andy_> why do i keep grr
#588 [08:27] <andy_> why do i keep getting "our servers are working a bit too hard please check back later"
#589 [08:27] <Helloman892> On minecraft.net?
#590 [08:27] <Helloman892> Mojang have done something wrong, they're working hard to fix it
#591 [08:27] <andy_> when i login to mojang
#592 [08:28] <Helloman892> And mojang.com
#593 [08:28] <Helloman892> Again, they've done something wrong
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#595 [08:29] <andy_> thanks do you know how long
#596 [08:29] <Helloman892> No clue
#597 [08:29] <Morrolan> https://twitter.com/danfrisk is the (only) one working on the issue, just check on his Twitter every now and then.
#598 [08:30] <andy_> thanks
#599 [08:30] <Helloman892> Why the hell is Dan the only one working on it
#600 [08:30] <Morrolan> Because there's two (or three?) network dudes at Mojang. :P
#601 [08:30] <Morrolan> Mollstam is probably not availalable. *shrug*
#602 [08:30] <Helloman892> I guess so
#603 [08:31] <Morrolan> Heck, maybe he's even working on it, and just hasn't said anything on Twitter yet.
#604 [08:31] <Helloman892> True, true
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#606 [08:32] <Morrolan> .sitedown Both, www.minecraft.net as well as ww.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#607 [08:32] <VoxelHead> Morrolan, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
#608 [08:32] <Helloman892> Morrolan, you did it wrong
#609 [08:32] <Helloman892> You missed a 'w'
#610 [08:32] <Morrolan> Yep.
#611 [08:32] <Morrolan> .siteup
#612 [08:32] <VoxelHead> Morrolan, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
#613 [08:32] <Morrolan> .sitedown Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#614 [08:32] <VoxelHead> Morrolan, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
#615 [08:33] <Helloman892> There we go
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#617 [08:33] <VoxelHead> iPeer, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
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#619 [08:36] <VoxelHead> Xogog, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
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#621 [08:38] <Xogog> I am have been having trouble getting onto the minecraft website for some time now, any idea why? I get this every time http://i.imgur.com/eXxUL.png
#622 [08:38] <Helloman892> ...
#623 [08:38] <Morrolan> The website is rather unstable, currentl.
#624 [08:38] <Helloman892> Xogog, read what VoxelHead told you.
#625 [08:38] <Morrolan> currently, even.
#626 [08:39] <Xogog> Its been happening for like 2 years tho :/
#627 [08:39] <Helloman892> That's... A long time.
#628 [08:40] <Morrolan> ?? win/hosts
#629 [08:40] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#630 [08:40] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#631 [08:40] <Morrolan> Check your hosts file for any lines containing 'minecraft.net' or similar, remove them if there are any.
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#634 [08:42] <VoxelHead> cestislife, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
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#636 [08:42] <VoxelHead> bildramer, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
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#638 [08:43] <Xogog> Ok here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/L6ChdisX
#639 [08:44] <Helloman892> Delete all three of those lines
#640 [08:44] <Morrolan> That's leftovers from a pirated version. :)
#641 [08:44] <Morrolan> If you remove them, you should be fine.
#642 [08:45] <Xogog> Ok
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#644 [08:46] <VoxelHead> killerboy99, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#645 [08:46] <killerboy99> Hello I really need server help
#646 [08:46] <killerboy99> urgently :l
#647 [08:46] <Necrodoom> ?
#648 [08:46] <Morrolan> Urgently? Then IRC is the wrong place. :)
#649 [08:46] <killerboy99> This is like the 5 time
#650 [08:46] <Helloman892> killerboy99, what's the problem?
#651 [08:46] <killerboy99> my server has crashed
#652 [08:46] <killerboy99> ive ran several servers in the past
#653 [08:46] <Necrodoom> crash report?
#654 [08:46] <killerboy99> and it gives no errors
#655 [08:46] <killerboy99> nope
#656 [08:46] <killerboy99> none
#657 [08:46] <Helloman892> Anything in the server.log?
#658 [08:47] <killerboy99> nope I check
#659 [08:47] <killerboy99> it literally says starting 1.4.6 server
#660 [08:47] <Helloman892> Hmm
#661 [08:47] <killerboy99> i asked host
#662 [08:47] <killerboy99> he said that someone reboot
#663 [08:47] <killerboy99> but i said no one did
#664 [08:47] <killerboy99> and i know its a crash
#665 [08:47] <killerboy99> because everyone looses server connection
#666 [08:47] <killerboy99> where as if I reboot it will say rebooting
#667 [08:47] <Necrodoom> with what error?
#668 [08:47] <killerboy99> none.
#669 [08:47] <Necrodoom> what does it say on close on server.log?
#670 [08:48] <killerboy99> nothign it has what the last person said then it says starting 1.4.6 server and the rest
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#672 [08:48] <VoxelHead> nyuszika7h, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#673 [08:48] <killerboy99> ive updated every plugin
#674 [08:48] <Morrolan> If there's neither errors in Minecraft's log, nor any JVM crashlogs, then your issue is your host.
#675 [08:48] <killerboy99> i thought so...
#676 [08:48] <killerboy99> sigh
#677 [08:48] <killerboy99> we can't transfer
#678 [08:48] <Necrodoom> killerboy99: host shut down your server aburtly
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#680 [08:48] <killerboy99> our world is like 1gb and we would loose players
#681 [08:48] <killerboy99> Necrodoom i dobut it
#682 [08:49] <killerboy99> also
#683 [08:49] <killerboy99> guys
#684 [08:49] <Necrodoom> thats the only possible cause
#685 [08:49] <killerboy99> my multicraft cp keeps spammign the connected players
#686 [08:49] <killerboy99> every 15 sec
#687 [08:49] <killerboy99> its really annoying
#688 [08:49] <killerboy99> ive googled
#689 [08:49] <Necrodoom> regular shutdown - xx plugin shutting down
#690 [08:49] <killerboy99> happens ot others
#691 [08:49] <Helloman892> Oh, and isn't this Bukkit?
#692 [08:49] <killerboy99> what ncrodoom?
#693 [08:49] <Necrodoom> plugin related crash - stack traces
#694 [08:49] <killerboy99> it is
#695 [08:49] <Xogog> Guys, thank you! I can finally get back onto minecraft.net.... wow i can finally change my skin xD
#696 [08:50] <Helloman892> ??>> killerboy99 mods
#697 [08:50] <Necrodoom> lag out - connection time out and out of stream
#698 [08:50] <Helloman892> ??< mods
#699 [08:50] <killerboy99> ?
#700 [08:50] <killerboy99> im lost
#701 [08:50] <Helloman892> Good, that was the right one
#702 [08:50] <Necrodoom> the only choice would be that the host had aburtly killed the server
#703 [08:50] <worldmc> ??> killerboy99 mods
#704 [08:50] <VoxelHead> killerboy99: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#705 [08:50] <VoxelHead> killerboy99: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#706 [08:50] <Helloman892> worldmc
#707 [08:50] <Helloman892> I've done it already, lol.
#708 [08:50] <worldmc> i see
#709 [08:50] <killerboy99> sigh I guesss no one can help me...
#710 [08:50] <killerboy99> Necrodoom possibly
#711 [08:51] <killerboy99> None of my plugins are causing this
#712 [08:51] <worldmc> killerboy99 read what voxelhead said
#713 [08:51] <killerboy99> I checked and there all up to date
#714 [08:51] <Necrodoom> killerboy99: list spam is a setting on multicraft
#715 [08:51] <killerboy99> wow
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#717 [08:51] <Necrodoom> worldmc: his issue is host related, not bukkit related
#718 [08:51] <VoxelHead> Bamboocha, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#719 [08:51] <killerboy99> necordoom how can I disable that?
#720 [08:51] <killerboy99> i kind of worked for the host
#721 [08:51] <Necrodoom> killerboy99: i dont use multicraft, i hate it
#722 [08:51] <killerboy99> i got access to there admin panel for multicraft
#723 [08:52] <Necrodoom> but bukkit forums are full of threads like that
#724 [08:52] <Necrodoom> shouldnt be an issue to google
#725 [08:52] <killerboy99> true
#726 [08:52] <killerboy99> no one has a solution though
#727 [08:52] <killerboy99> is there no plugin which can disable it?
#728 [08:52] <Necrodoom> the spam is from multicraft itself
#729 [08:53] <killerboy99> yeah
#730 [08:53] <Necrodoom> printing directly to console
#731 [08:53] <killerboy99> bukkits down aswell xD
#732 [08:53] <killerboy99> yeah
#733 [08:53] * Me4502 is now known as Me4502|Away
#734 [08:54] <killerboy99> the crashes happen like once a day...
#735 [08:54] <Necrodoom> its not crashes
#736 [08:55] <Necrodoom> theres no crash report, no nothing
#737 [08:55] <Helloman892> It's a forceful stop
#738 [08:55] <killerboy99> k
#739 [08:55] <Necrodoom> if it aburtly ends, nothing on consoe
#740 [08:55] <killerboy99> another guy said it could be my host overselling
#741 [08:55] <killerboy99> anyway next time it happens ill check log agin
#742 [08:55] <Necrodoom> its either a /kill or host being an ass
#743 [08:55] <Necrodoom> which isnt too uncommon
#744 [08:55] <Helloman892> Your host is being a prick, is what Necrodoom is saying.
#745 [08:55] <killerboy99> how?
#746 [08:56] <killerboy99> i use vps4less
#747 [08:56] <Morrolan> Run a ping on your server in the background, when the server goes down, check it. Should allow you to rule out connection issues.
#748 [08:56] <Helloman892> Necrodoom, /kill is a player kill command ;)
#749 [08:56] <killerboy99> lol
#750 [08:56] <killerboy99> anyway thanks guys
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#752 [08:56] <VoxelHead> catlover0904, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#753 [08:56] <Necrodoom> Helloman892: some GUIs supply a kill button
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#755 [08:57] <Helloman892> Necrodoom, I know, but it isn't /kill
#756 [08:57] <VoxelHead> Grim_Reaper, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
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#758 [08:57] <Necrodoom> Helloman892: yes, i know that
#759 [08:57] <Grim_Reaper> Thanks VoxelHead
#760 [08:57] <Helloman892> Necrodoom, Good.
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#763 [09:01] <VoxelHead> kinney, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#764 [09:02] * Necrodoom shoots voxelhead
#764 [09:02] <Helloman892> Necrodoom, Morrolan set that .sitedown
#765 [09:02] <Helloman892> Blame him
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#767 [09:02] <worldmc> well its true
#768 [09:03] <Helloman892> ^
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#771 [09:05] <VoxelHead> kinney, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#772 [09:06] <kinney> has anyone had issues after loading mini map add on. once i added it, i cannot see my inventory without the system crashing
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#774 [09:06] <Morrolan> Chances are that specific minimap mod is borked.
#775 [09:07] <Morrolan> Contact its creator, or simply try a different one.
#776 [09:07] <kinney> thx how do i uninstall the minimap
#777 [09:08] <Morrolan> Force an update, this'll get rid of any and all installed mods.
#778 [09:08] <Morrolan> ?? forceupdate
#779 [09:08] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#780 [09:08] * benhunter09|iPod is now known as benhunter09
#781 [09:08] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#782 [09:08] <Morrolan> If it's a modloader mod, you should also be able to remove the mod_* files which you dropped into the .jar.
#783 [09:08] <Morrolan> Maybe modloader even supports disabling certain mods.
#784 [09:10] <worldmc> guys?
#785 [09:10] <worldmc> a error with thicking problems is java related that makes that i have to downgrade to java 6?
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#787 [09:11] <VoxelHead> Grim_Reaper, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#788 [09:12] <Grim_Reaper> Thank yeee
#789 [09:12] <kinney> thanks force update worked
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#792 [09:20] <VoxelHead> worm424, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
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#794 [09:23] <VoxelHead> darthalex99, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
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#797 [09:28] <VoxelHead> Jasmine, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
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#799 [09:35] <VoxelHead> Butterjames11, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
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#801 [09:36] <VoxelHead> warchicken, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
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#803 [09:42] <VoxelHead> duxyneo, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#804 [09:42] <VoxelHead> duxyneo, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
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#806 [09:44] <duxyneo> Thanks Voxel, I'm more asking if anyone knows what Display Driver I need for a Toshiba Satellite Pro C660 to get minecraft working?
#807 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> bleh. C660 drivers?
#808 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> giveme one moment to dig up a walkthrough for you
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#810 [09:45] <VoxelHead> Lildirt, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
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#812 [09:46] <VoxelHead> Jack, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#813 [09:46] <lutzee> Well there is:
#814 [09:46] <lutzee> ?? c660
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#816 [09:46] <VoxelHead> c660: The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#817 [09:47] <duxyneo> Thanks Vulpine, I had had this problem fixed before now but had to recently format the laptop so lost all extra drivers. Thanks guys
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#819 [09:47] <VoxelHead> hd, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#820 [09:47] <hd> hello?
#821 [09:47] <lutzee> Hello hd
#822 [09:47] <hd> can u help me?
#823 [09:48] <lutzee> It is what we are here for, what problems do you have?
#824 [09:48] <hd> i downloaded sphax BDcraft for a texture and it crached my mc i can open it or delet the texture
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#826 [09:49] <lutzee> ?? win/.minecraft
#827 [09:49] <lutzee> ..
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#829 [09:49] <VoxelHead> Necrodoom, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Both, www.minecraft.net as well as www.mojang.com, are experiencing issues right now. Check https://twitter.com/danfrisk for updates.
#830 [09:49] <lutzee> ??> hd win/.minecraft
#831 [09:49] <lutzee> Vox..
#832 [09:49] <benhunter09> ...
#833 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> ?? Win/.minecraft
#834 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#835 [09:50] <hd> whats that mean?
#836 [09:50] <lutzee> GreyVulpine: the logins seem stable now anyway
#837 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> okay
#838 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> .siteup
#839 [09:50] <VoxelHead> GreyVulpine, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
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#841 [09:50] <hd> what shouls i do?
#842 [09:51] <lutzee> hd please follow these instructions:
#843 [09:51] <lutzee> To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#844 [09:51] <lutzee> Then delete the options file
#845 [09:52] <hd> wheres win?
#846 [09:52] <lutzee> ?? win/key
#847 [09:52] <lutzee> Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#848 [09:52] <hd> rok
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#853 [10:00] <Hallo> hallo @ all
#854 [10:01] <Hallo> Kann mir jemand helfen, ich soll für meine kinder minecraft zum laufen bekommen. Leider klappt das nicht so. Läuft das spiel unter win7 oder muss ich irgendwelche zusatz programme laden?
#855 [10:02] <Hallo> wäre nett wenn mir ejmand eine kleine kurzanleitung posten könnte, oder einen link wo ich das nachlesen kann. THX
#856 [10:02] <lutzee> Hallo: I dont believe any German speakers are around at the moment
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#858 [10:03] <tyteen4a03> what Morrolan
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#861 [10:04] <Hallo> ok lutzee I wait so long.
#862 [10:04] <tyteen4a03> .siteup
#863 [10:04] <tyteen4a03> !login
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#871 [10:22] <tomsterley> what is irc
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#873 [10:25] <Calinou> tomsterley: internet relay chat
#874 [10:25] <Calinou> i.e. what you are on right now
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#876 [10:26] <tomsterley> me?
#877 [10:27] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Been wondering whether the issue with the login server had resolved itself, or whether Vox's message was due to some non-obvious issue which I didn't know about.
#878 [10:27] <tomsterley> FUCK U PPLZ
#879 [10:27] * AuBot kicked tomsterley from #minecrafthelp (Reason: omsterley :Please keep it civil.)
#880 [10:27] <Morrolan> I then decided that the former was more likely, and removed the message, back there.
#881 [10:27] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, then minecraft.net went down and you had to put it up again
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#883 [10:27] <tomsterley> hi
#884 [10:27] <Morrolan> Yea, seems shortyl after the login server recovered, their websites died.
#885 [10:27] <tomsterley> sorry
#886 [10:28] <Morrolan> shortly*
#887 [10:28] <TheNoodle> hey pplz
#888 [10:28] <tomsterley> who is a channel p[
#889 [10:28] <Morrolan> This is an IRC channel, tomsterley.
#890 [10:28] <tomsterley> op*
#891 [10:28] <tomsterley> i know
#892 [10:28] <Morrolan> As for ops, everyone with an @ in front of their name.
#893 [10:28] <tomsterley> oh
#894 [10:28] <tomsterley> are u a op
#895 [10:28] <Morrolan> Do I have an @ in front of my name?
#896 [10:28] <tomsterley> no
#897 [10:29] <Morrolan> Then your client might be showing that differently. :)
#898 [10:29] <TheNoodle> Of you're an imposter
#899 [10:29] <Morrolan> Yea. D:
#900 [10:29] <tomsterley> im using thunderbirds new irc feature
#901 [10:29] <Morrolan> An E-Mail client with a buit-in IRC client? Huh.
#902 [10:29] <Morrolan> built*
#903 [10:29] <tomsterley> yah
#904 [10:29] <Boreeas> Yeah, Thunderbird has weird stuff in the latest release
#905 [10:29] <tomsterley> like IRC :D
#906 [10:30] <Calinou> Morrolan: next guy coming in this channel will use emacs' IRC client feature
#907 [10:30] <Calinou> :>
#908 [10:30] <Morrolan> Ah, the fully-featured operating system lacking only a decent text editor, yea.
#909 [10:31] <Boreeas> ":irc.nullroutes.com 465 EmacsUser :You are banned from this server- Temporary K-line 4320 min. - [G][netsec] [EmacsUser!~EmacsUser@i59F54D94.versanet.de: Using Emacs for IRC] has been matched to a known bot pattern r#4 (compromised host id#rb5d - visit kline.rizon.net) - Visit http://abuse.rizon.net/akills/lookup?ip=89.245.77.148&drone% for more information. (Akill ID: KY61ILWWB2) (2013/1/12 16.3
#910 [10:31] <tomsterley> who wants to fuck
#911 [10:31] * AuBot kicked tomsterley from #minecrafthelp (Reason: omsterley :Please keep it civil.)
#912 [10:31] <Boreeas> 0)"
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#914 [10:31] <Boreeas> Q.Q
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#916 [10:31] <Morrolan> Haha.
#917 [10:31] <tomsterley> i swaered
#918 [10:31] <Morrolan> tomsterley - Oh, come on.
#919 [10:31] <tomsterley> i didnt know
#920 [10:31] <Morrolan> If you want to get yourself removed from here, just say so.
#921 [10:31] <tomsterley> Morrolan ok
#922 [10:31] <tomsterley> i dont want too
#923 [10:32] <Morrolan> Very well.
#924 [10:32] <tomsterley> i didnt know that was a rule though
#925 [10:32] <Morrolan> AuBot doesn't like swearing too much. :)
#926 [10:32] <tomsterley> oh
#927 [10:32] <Boreeas> Also, I think you might be looking for #onlinedating and not #minecrafthelp
#928 [10:33] <tomsterley> NO
#929 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas, that channel exists? :D
#930 [10:33] <Boreeas> It does now \o/
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#933 [10:33] * Morro|Thunderbird blinks
#933 [10:34] <Morrolan> Test
#934 [10:34] <Calinou> more like ##linux @ irc.freenode.net, that's a better dating channel
#935 [10:34] <tomsterley> how do u nickname
#936 [10:34] <Morrolan> "/nick nickname"
#937 [10:34] <Calinou> /nick <your nickname here>
#938 [10:34] <tomsterley> this works?
#939 [10:34] <Boreeas> /join 0
#940 [10:34] <Boreeas> /join 0
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#942 [10:34] <Boreeas> Pfffrt
#943 [10:34] <Morrolan> Seems Thunderbird only shows ops in the userlist, by prefixing their name with a lil' star.
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#945 [10:34] <lukegb> Do people still fall for that?
#946 [10:34] * Morrolan blinks
#946 [10:34] <Boreeas> Apparently
#947 [10:34] <tomsterley> u made me leave by doing /join 0
#948 [10:34] <Morrolan> tomsterley - Yea, /join 0 leaves all channels. ;)
#949 [10:35] <Calinou> u => you
#950 [10:35] <Morrolan> Feel free to slap Boreeas. :)
#951 [10:35] <tomsterley> lol
#952 [10:35] <tomsterley> gff
#953 [10:35] <tomsterley> f
#954 [10:35] <tomsterley> s
#955 [10:35] <tomsterley> wd
#956 [10:35] <tomsterley> f
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#958 [10:35] <Morrolan> No, slapping, not smapmping.
#959 [10:35] <Morrolan> ack
#960 [10:35] <Morrolan> Spamming*
#961 [10:35] <tomsterley> guys
#962 [10:35] <Boreeas> Someone's bored
#963 [10:35] <Calinou> someone = "Boreeas",
#964 [10:36] <Boreeas> That was not the person I was thinking of :P
#965 [10:36] <Morro|Thunderbird> Oh well, once Thunderbird supports making coffee, I might give it a try.
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#971 [10:36] <Jordano> hi
#972 [10:36] <Calinou> thunderbird needs thunderbug plugin for debugging HTML emails
#973 [10:36] <Jordano> fuck
#974 [10:36] * AuBot kicked Jordano from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ordano :Please keep it civil.)
#975 [10:37] <Calinou> hi jor... lol
#976 [10:37] <tomsterley> lol
#977 [10:37] <Morrolan> *cough* hostmask
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#979 [10:37] <Boreeas> Morrolan: What are you using now, if not Thunderbird?
#980 [10:37] * VoxelHead kicked tomsterley from #minecrafthelp (Reason: omsterley :Banned: join flood)
#981 [10:37] * VoxelHead kicked Jordano from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ordano :Banned: join flood)
#982 [10:37] <Calinou> joins/quits hidden, "conference mode" is on
#983 [10:37] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Outlook.
#984 [10:37] <Boreeas> Heretic!
#985 [10:37] <Calinou> outlook, lol
#986 [10:37] <Morrolan> Hehe.
#987 [10:37] <Calinou> webmails are teh suck
#988 [10:38] <Morrolan> I like it when people who are new to IRC try to fool us by using a different nick. :)
#989 [10:38] <Morrolan> Makes me feel superior!
#990 [10:38] <Boreeas> [16:38:00] <tomsterley> why am i banned
#991 [10:38] <TheNoodle> lol
#992 [10:38] <Morrolan> Tell him that we used a GUI in VB.NET to look up both nicks.
#993 [10:39] <Morrolan> And that we came to the conclusion, after parsing it with sed, that both are the same person.
#994 [10:39] <Calinou> better: make a minetest mod which allows bitcoin trading, then buy a banhammer with bitcoins, then wait for the seller to ship it to you then use it
#995 [10:40] <Morrolan> !server
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#997 [10:42] <Morrolan> !check 84.253.56.154:2699
#998 [10:44] <Calinou> it's OS X not OSX
#999 [10:44] * Calinou highfives steve jobs
#999 [10:45] <Morrolan> !check 84.253.56.154:2699
#1000 [10:45] <Morrolan> So... what on earth is the difference between those two commands.
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#1002 [10:47] <Calinou> !check 127.0.0.1
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#1004 [10:47] <Morrolan> Haha.
#1005 [10:47] <Calinou> why are you running a minecraft server :P
#1006 [10:47] <Morrolan> Not me, Kealper. :)
#1007 [10:47] <Calinou> nice latency
#1008 [10:47] <Boreeas> 1.5 s latency to localhost
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#1010 [10:48] <Morrolan> Yea, seems AuBot is waiting for the connection to time out or similar, when it measures latency. :P
#1011 [10:48] <Calinou> Boreeas: what happens when you have an AMD CPU
#1012 [10:48] <jack> how do you contact mine crfaft by phone
#1013 [10:48] <Calinou> 0.026ms <= my latency to localhost
#1014 [10:48] <Boreeas> jack: You can't
#1015 [10:48] <Calinou> jack: the pocker edition uses bluetooth
#1016 [10:48] <Calinou> you can't connect to PC servers using the pocket edition and inversely
#1017 [10:49] <jack> sorry i need tech support ove the phone I want a number to call them
#1018 [10:49] <Morrolan> They don't offer any contact hotlines.
#1019 [10:49] <Morrolan> (Imagine the costs, if you were to call an international number for half an hour)
#1020 [10:50] <Calinou> hotlines are annoying, too :P
#1021 [10:50] <worldmc> yep
#1022 [10:50] <Morrolan> If we can't help, you'll have to contact Mojang per e-mail.
#1023 [10:50] <Morrolan> Hotlines are like media players, just that, with media players, you can choose what kind of music to listen to. :P
#1024 [10:51] <jack> wonderful great customer service, ok I used the redeem code for a chrome book which doesnt work with minecraft, how do I get a new code for my computer
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#1026 [10:51] <Morrolan> When you redeem a giftcode, your Minecraft _account_ will be made premium.
#1027 [10:51] <Morrolan> So you can just sign in with that account on your new computer.
#1028 [10:51] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#1030 [10:52] <Morrolan> (i.e. download the launcher from www.minecraft.net/downloads, enter e-mail and password, and you should be good to go.)
#1031 [10:52] <jack> never made it that far chrome book would allow it??
#1032 [10:52] <Morrolan> Sorry?
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#1034 [10:52] <jack> what do I do to contact minecraft about the situation
#1035 [10:53] <Morrolan> You need not. When you redeemed your giftcode, your Minecraft account was made premium. Your account is not bound to your computer.
#1036 [10:53] <Morrolan> Back in an instant, upgrading IRC client.
#1037 [10:53] <jack> it says the code has been used
#1038 [10:54] <jack> i dont know what preium means any way
#1039 [10:54] <Grim_Reaper> It means your account is full version
#1040 [10:54] <Grim_Reaper> In other words. You have access to play the game without limitations that the demo has
#1041 [10:54] <Morrolan> The chrome book is a regular computer, and not some thingy with an Android OS, right?
#1042 [10:54] <jack> not untell it downloaded never been downloaded
#1043 [10:54] <Calinou> chromebook is ARM
#1044 [10:54] <Calinou> and the specs inside officially suck
#1045 [10:54] <Calinou> (compared to x86 laptops)
#1046 [10:55] <Calinou> you'd have to install a linux distro first, then you can only use openjdk (works well), but the ARM driver situation is terrible
#1047 [10:55] <Calinou> so no 3D acceleration
#1048 [10:55] <Calinou> and this means no minecraft
#1049 [10:55] <Morrolan> jack - You did register an account on www.minecraft.net / www.mojang.com, did you not?
#1050 [10:56] <jack> please quit talking about the cheome book and address my situation
#1051 [10:56] <Morrolan> Stay polite please.
#1052 [10:56] <jack> yes my gran son did
#1053 [10:57] <Morrolan> Great. So, once he registered an account, he was able to redeem that giftcode on the website, correct?
#1054 [10:57] <Hallo> moin moin jemand hier der mir weiter helfen kann?
#1055 [10:57] <Morrolan> Hallo - Wenn du Englisch kannst, ja.
#1056 [10:58] <Hallo> nicht so gut um mein problem zu erklären
#1057 [10:58] <Hallo> ist etwas komplizierter
#1058 [10:58] <Hallo> oder ich bin zu doof. Das ist es wohl eher
#1059 [10:58] <jack> yes to tyhe chromebook which did not allow it to play cause it donest work on cromebooks just chromebook apt so the code had been redeemed to a not conpatible conputer and minecraft want let us use the code again to a compatable computer
#1060 [10:59] <Helloman892> Hallo, wenn du English kannst.
#1061 [10:59] <Morrolan> jack - Again. When you redeemed the code, it was not bound to your computer, but to the Minecraft account which you (respectively your grandson) created earlier.
#1062 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> jack - A code is redeemed to the minecraft account, which then can be used on any computer. When you redeem minecraft, you don't redeem it to a specific computer
#1063 [11:01] <jack> that may be true but minecraft want download to the computer with out a code and it want let me use the one used for the chrome buck
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#1065 [11:01] <mr_sticky> hello
#1066 [11:01] <Helloman892> mr_sticky, Hello.
#1067 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Sure it will. Go to http://www.minecraft.net/download on the computer that you want to have minecraft on
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#1069 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to use the code again to download minecraft.
#1070 [11:01] <mr_sticky> when i try to login
#1071 [11:01] <mr_sticky> in minecraft launcher
#1072 [11:01] <mr_sticky> it says
#1073 [11:01] <mr_sticky> login failed
#1074 [11:02] <jack> then why does it ask for a code when we tried that
#1075 [11:02] <Helloman892> This would be because the Minecraft login servers are currently unstable, mr_sticky.
#1076 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> It asks for a code to convert your account to a premium one, jack.
#1077 [11:02] <mr_sticky> http://prntscr.com/oxpyo
#1078 [11:03] <jack> it want take the code cause it was redeem to the chromebook
#1079 [11:03] <Helloman892> mr_sticky, that is what I said.
#1080 [11:03] <Helloman892> The login servers are down, pretty much.
#1081 [11:03] <mr_sticky> when is possible to login ?
#1082 [11:03] <Helloman892> Just a sec, brb
#1083 [11:03] <Helloman892> No clue
#1084 [11:03] <jack> it says the code has already been redeemed
#1085 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> jack - You only need to redeem the code once, to your account. Once you redeem the code, your account is premium, and you can download minecraft to any computer you own.
#1086 [11:04] <jack> thanks Ill try it
#1087 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> Login servers are up.
#1088 [11:05] <Grim_Reaper> Wonderful
#1089 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> If the login servers were down, the error message would be instead, "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#1090 [11:05] <mr_sticky> in the login
#1091 [11:05] <mr_sticky> is to put
#1092 [11:05] <mr_sticky> the e-mail
#1093 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> Now then, "Login failed" can mean one of several things. Primarily, it means that the password is being entered incorrectly
#1094 [11:05] <mr_sticky> and the pass ?
#1095 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> Try resetting your password using: https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#1096 [11:07] <mr_sticky> don t work
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#1099 [11:09] <mr_sticky> i have put the right e-mail
#1100 [11:09] <mr_sticky> and the right password
#1101 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - Other reasons why you may have gotten login failed include, not verifying your email address upon registration of the account, and not creating a minecraft profile when you purchased minecraft
#1102 [11:10] <Mima03> Hi, have a problem. i buyed, payed, downloded and played. Finaly i died... Ok, after changing settings. and closed game a restard is impossibel.... nothing happened
#1103 [11:11] <tyteen4a03> Mima03, Windows I presume?
#1104 [11:11] <Mima03> Yes
#1105 [11:11] <tyteen4a03> ??> Mima03 win/.minecraft
#1106 [11:11] <VoxelHead> Mima03: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1107 [11:12] <tyteen4a03> Mima03, from there, find a text file called options.txt and delete it
#1108 [11:14] <Mima03> I will try it, and be bach in a minume or 5
#1109 [11:17] <Mima03> I del options.txt and tryed to start... nothing happend...
#1110 [11:18] <Mima03> By the way thank you for awnsering sooo fast...
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#1115 [11:26] <Mima03> Tyteen4a03, what els can i do?
#1116 [11:26] <tyteen4a03> Mima03, do you remember what you did before Minecraft stopped working?
#1117 [11:26] <greenie705> just bought minecraft for my son and we cannot sign in "Where is says" LOg in. Get our servers are working too hard, please check back Later" when we go to the Minecraft link download Minecraft for windows click on the "Download on minecraft.exe it still doesn't work. what the heck is going on
#1118 [11:26] <tyteen4a03> !login
#1119 [11:26] <tyteen4a03> !isdown
#1120 [11:26] <GreyBot> tyteen4a03: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1121 [11:27] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, are you downloading through this page? https://minecraft.net/download
#1122 [11:27] <greenie705> Yes. or I go to the internet and key in minecraft and it takes me there and nothing
#1123 [11:28] <greenie705> just bought it yesterday we also bought a new computer tosiba with window 8
#1124 [11:29] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, what does it say when you try to access https://minecraft.net/download?
#1125 [11:30] <Mima03> I will be back later, my child need me... but thank you, as i sayed i´ll be back...
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#1127 [11:31] <greenie705> my other son has minecraft and is able to play on my old computer. If I sign greenie705 on the old computer greenie can sign in no problem with email address and password. My older son's worlds come up and greenie But on this computer no go
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#1129 [11:33] <greenie705> can you see my trail of issue
#1130 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, is this your first time running Minecraft on this Toshiba Windows 8 computer?
#1131 [11:33] <greenie705> yes
#1132 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, try downloading directly using this link: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
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#1134 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> I think greenie705's asking why his son's worlds aren't on the new windows 8 computer
#1135 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, he couldn't even download
#1136 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
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#1138 [11:36] <greenie705> I' m on the tosibal now and that long link doesn't work either. placing the link it asks to run and nothing
#1139 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> ??> greenie705 win/disablemetro
#1140 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> ??> greenie705 win/metro
#1141 [11:36] <VoxelHead> greenie705: (win/metro) Metro is Windows 8's newest touch interface, and is known to cause problems with Minecraft. For information on disabling it, please see win/metro/disable
#1142 [11:37] <tyteen4a03> ??> greenie705 win/metro/disable
#1143 [11:37] <VoxelHead> greenie705: (win/metro/disable) How to disable the Metro UI in Windows 6.2 (AKA "Windows 8"): http://techmell.com/how-to/disable-metro-ui-windows-8/
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#1145 [11:40] <greenie705> What do you need me to do. I'm not techie. So windows 8 doesn't work and is causing the message "our servers are working too hard please chekk back later. and none of the sign in works or run
#1146 [11:40] * mauZzz is now known as mau5ie
#1147 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, follow the instructions posted by VoxelHead
#1148 [11:41] <rbl> I am playing minecraft on a kindle fire and my world can't be seen by other players. the server is set to visible. what am i missing?
#1149 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> rbl, are you and your friends on the same wifi network?
#1150 [11:41] <rbl> yes
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#1152 [11:41] <lutzee> minecraft.ne does seem to be under heavy load atm.
#1153 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> rbl, is this wifi network your own network, or a public one?
#1154 [11:42] <greenie705> wait. this is greenie. what did you want me to do. this is awful
#1155 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, hang on
#1156 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, http://techmell.com/how-to/disable-metro-ui-windows-8/
#1157 [11:42] <rbl> my home network, wep code needed
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#1159 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, follow the instructions posted here, if you have any difficulties please tell us
#1160 [11:42] <lukegb> tyteen4a03: I think minecraft.net's down
#1161 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> rbl, check your router to see if your router blocks clients from connecting to each other
#1162 [11:42] * Syfaro is now known as Sy|afk
#1163 [11:42] <lukegb> it's being very slow, anyway
#1164 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> !isdown
#1165 [11:42] <GreyBot> tyteen4a03: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1166 [11:42] <greenie705> ok I'll try that link but then what.
#1167 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> .sitedown Minecraft.net is currently down. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1168 [11:43] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
#1169 [11:43] <rbl> i can connect to my sister's world but she can't connect to mine. she's playing on a kindle too
#1170 [11:43] <lukegb> tyteen4a03: seems intermittently OK. Hmm.
#1171 [11:43] <lukegb> greenie705: Have you got minecraft.exe or are you having problems downloading it?
#1172 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> .siteup
#1173 [11:45] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
#1174 [11:46] <tyteen4a03> .sitedown Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1175 [11:46] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
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#1177 [11:50] <VoxelHead> barneygale, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1178 [11:52] <unimatrix> i dont get it
#1179 [11:52] <unimatrix> i can connect to the auth server perfectly
#1180 [11:52] <lukegb> unimatrix: nah, it was main minecraft.net I was having problems with
#1181 [11:52] <unimatrix> or dont they bother taking it off anymore :p
#1182 [11:52] <lukegb> tyteen4a03: I think it may have been just me
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#1184 [11:53] <tyteen4a03> lukegb, I got it as well
#1185 [11:53] <unimatrix> strange
#1186 [11:53] <lukegb> Just got "Our servers are working a bit too hard"
#1187 [11:53] <unimatrix> can you guys open pmc?
#1188 [11:53] <lukegb> Great
#1189 [11:53] <tyteen4a03> let's keep it for half hour and see if things go wrong again
#1190 [11:53] <unimatrix> tyteen4a03 if i were you id never take it off
#1191 [11:53] <unimatrix> :p
#1192 [11:53] <tyteen4a03> unimatrix, good idea actually, but DopeGhoti will smack me for spam
#1193 [11:54] <unimatrix> let it notice the user
#1194 [11:54] <unimatrix> :p
#1195 [11:54] <greenie705> I have an issue with the link voxIhead mentions above. When I go to the link it says it can make the OS on my system unstable if not down properly. So what I gather is we paid for Minecraft and it does not work on windows 8 without having to do some back end work on my computer. There has to be another way since I don't want to mess with my OS system
#1196 [11:54] <unimatrix> notice will reduce channel spam
#1197 [11:54] <unimatrix> but still get the message across
#1198 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> unimatrix, people doesn't read them
#1199 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> *don't
#1200 [11:55] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, don't trust microsoft's scary messages
#1201 [11:55] <unimatrix> how can one not read a notice
#1202 [11:55] <lukegb> greenie705: try https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1203 [11:55] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, also, Minecraft.net is down so we cannot do anything further until it's back up
#1204 [11:55] <Morrolan> Clients tend to throw them wherever they please, anyway. Status window, the window which has focus currently, /dev/zero...
#1205 [11:55] <unimatrix> that puzzels me
#1206 [11:55] <tyteen4a03> unimatrix, mibbit is magic
#1207 [11:55] <unimatrix> i use mirc
#1208 [11:55] <unimatrix> old skool
#1209 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> pfft. Telnet is old skool
#1210 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> mirc is...
#1211 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> not.
#1212 [11:56] <unimatrix> mirc has served me since 1998
#1213 [11:56] * GreyVulpine nods
#1213 [11:56] <Morrolan> Who let granddaddy out of the cellar. :<
#1214 [11:56] <lukegb> greenie705: Hello?
#1215 [11:56] * GreyVulpine baps Morrolan with his cane
#1215 [11:56] <unimatrix> lol
#1216 [11:56] <Morrolan> Ow. :o
#1217 [11:57] <unimatrix> oh the lovely memories
#1218 [11:57] <unimatrix> of quakenet:p
#1219 [11:57] <greenie705> I see your point but the sight Vox sent me to it specially says it there that the OS system can become stable. I'll try the minecraft link again in the passages just slightly above again As for being down minecraft greenie is online on the old machine
#1220 [11:57] <mau5ie> lol'd.
#1221 [11:58] <mau5ie> tyteen4a03 - Mibbit is the plague.
#1222 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, you can try copying the Minecraft.exe on the old computer to the new one
#1223 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, however, you cannot log into one account at two places at the same time
#1224 [11:58] <unimatrix> yes but also usefull mau5ie when one runs a plugin support channel
#1225 [11:58] <unimatrix> 80% of the mc users dont know what irc is
#1226 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, if you want your two sons to play together you will have to buy a second account for your younger son
#1227 [11:59] <mau5ie> unimatrix - I just use an embed of Iris webchat.
#1228 [11:59] <mau5ie> :P
#1229 [11:59] <unimatrix> true
#1230 [11:59] <mau5ie> Works just as well. Not nearly as horrible.
#1231 [11:59] <unimatrix> i could get a cgi webchat gooing
#1232 [12:01] <mau5ie> And before Esper ditched its flash daemon, LightIRC was also a good option.
#1233 [12:01] <mau5ie> There are plenty of options out there. It's not that Mibbit is the best for those who run a plugin support channel, it's that those who run a plugin support channel can't put in the effort to find a better webclient.
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#1235 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> mau5ie, webchat
#1236 [12:02] <lukegb> If you find a better webclient you also have to get the ircops onboard though.
#1237 [12:03] <Morrolan> Why are you hating on mibbit, again? :P
#1238 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> lukegb, not sure what you're talking about
#1239 [12:03] <Morrolan> It does its job good enough. Wouldn't use it as my main client, but if all I want is to chat quickly, it's just fine
#1240 [12:03] <mau5ie> Iris is already better.
#1241 [12:03] <mau5ie> Because Mibbit is a horrible client.
#1242 [12:03] <Morrolan> It relays what I type to the server, and shows me what the server sent it.
#1243 [12:03] <Morrolan> Works for me.
#1244 [12:04] <mau5ie> Yeah. I'll give you that.
#1245 [12:04] <lukegb> tyteen4a03: if you say, find a little known but awesome webclient, then it's unlikely to have the necessary authentication with the ircd to let it know that it's a webclient for another user
#1246 [12:04] <lukegb> so banning becomes very coarse
#1247 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> lukegb, oh, another mibbit-like webclient?
#1248 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> I thought you were talking about webchat.esper.net
#1249 [12:04] <lukegb> oh, right, no, webchat.esper.net clearly has ircop approval ;)
#1250 [12:05] <greenie705> Greenie705 got a new account yesterday per my trail above and buggie03 my other son has his own account minecraft doesnt work on win 8 won't load wont sign in this message comes up our servers are working too hard, please check back Later not to mention you can't log in or anything just bought greenie account yesterday Vort
#1251 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, Minecraft.net is currently very unstable, might be down
#1252 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, please check back within a few hours, then you should be able to play
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#1254 [12:07] <greenie705> not down. greenie is playing on the old computer. there needs to be a patch fix for minecraft for windows 8
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#1256 [12:07] <Morrolan> It's not broken.
#1257 [12:07] <Morrolan> It's just Windows complaining that it isn't signed.
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#1260 [12:09] <greenie705> does anyone here have windows 8. Vox.... above mentioned going to a link that would change settings on my computer but it specifically saids it will make my OS system unstable can't risk that
#1261 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, we told you that you should not trust Microsoft
#1262 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, you have the right to not trust us, but if you do not we will be unable to provide further support
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#1264 [12:10] <VoxelHead> tiger_m, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1266 [12:10] <VoxelHead> mau5ie, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1267 [12:10] * frdmn|zZzZz is now known as frdmn
#1268 [12:12] <greenie705> I see your point. but I'm not techieenough to venture that way. there has to be another workaround on minecraft. patches should be put out on the sight to fix the window 8 issue. not just take your money and you fix your OS system. Voxe1head there has to be another way
#1269 [12:12] * benhunter09|away is now known as benhunter09
#1270 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, Mojang is not responsible for Microsoft being stupid, and VoxelHead is a bot
#1271 [12:14] <greenie705> a bot???? come on. then business would be out of work if they didn't work out the bugs before a product came out
#1272 [12:15] <Grim_Reaper> VoxelHead really is a bot :|
#1273 [12:15] <Morrolan> VoxelHead is a bot, not Mojang. ;)
#1274 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, again, it's not Mojang's issue, it is Microsoft's
#1275 [12:15] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1276 [12:16] <Morrolan> As for the issue with Windows 8, it's not that much of a bug. It's mainly that Microsoft has begun locking down their operating system, like Apple has been doing with OS X for a while.
#1277 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, if you refuse to believe in us then we cannot provide support
#1278 [12:16] <Morrolan> And some parts of Mojang aren't terribly happy with that. ;)
#1279 [12:17] <greenie705> ok. pass the link information and I will try to review the issue. And if that doesn't work then what..... I'll try to figure how i got to this
#1280 [12:17] <greenie705> so noone answered the question.do any of you have win 8
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#1282 [12:19] <Morrolan> Huh, read up a bit, now you've got me somewhat confused. There's talk about Minecraft not being certified for W8 use, and there's links to disable Metro.
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#1285 [12:19] <Morrolan> So the issue is with Metro?
#1286 [12:19] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, well I had no idea before so I told him to disable metro first
#1287 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, but then now he tells us about this issue then I guess we have new solutions
#1288 [12:20] <TheNoodle> greenie705: I do.
#1289 [12:21] <Morrolan> Might also be worth a try to simply launch it through the console, with a bit o' luck it'll be an issue which can be fixed without disabling Metro.
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#1291 [12:22] <VoxelHead> Console, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1293 [12:24] <VoxelHead> Tonux, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1295 [12:28] <VoxelHead> SemiPr0, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1298 [12:29] <VoxelHead> Necrodoom, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1300 [12:30] <SemiPr0> I think I have a slightly more complex issue that just the MC instability, is there anyone I can speak to about that?
#1301 [12:31] <mau5ie> http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/12/3867332/department-of-homeland-security-disable-java
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#1304 [12:34] <rymate1234> are there buckets in ios pocket edition?
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#1306 [12:34] <VoxelHead> RSMDelons, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1307 [12:34] <rymate1234> if so, how do i craft
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#1309 [12:36] <VoxelHead> Tom__, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1312 [12:39] <VoxelHead> momneedshelp, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1314 [12:39] <VoxelHead> vova23, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1315 [12:40] <momneedshelp> when do you think the servers will be up?
#1316 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> momneedshelp, no idea
#1317 [12:40] <vova23> sorry, bad english
#1318 [12:41] <momneedshelp> Hmmm ok just we'd like to download it for our kids
#1319 [12:41] <vova23> what?
#1320 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> vova23, Minecraft.net is currently down
#1321 [12:43] <vova23> why
#1322 [12:43] <momneedshelp> tyteen4a03, thanks for the info guess we can just keep trying everyonce in awhile
#1323 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> momneedshelp, yes :)
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#1326 [12:45] <VoxelHead> worldmc, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1327 [12:45] <VoxelHead> worldmc, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1331 [12:53] <tyteen4a03> either mollstam has gone fishing, or Mojang doesn't know the servers are down yet
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#1333 [12:54] <VoxelHead> benhunter09, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1336 [12:56] <VoxelHead> kolia_rus, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1337 [12:57] <kolia_rus> hi
#1338 [12:57] <greenie705> Noodle above is you are still there You mentined u r on Win 8 what did you do to get minecraft to work My buddy tryed loading the free game from minecraft and got the same crazy message "Our servers are busy, come back later" something like ;that so he too cant get minecraft to work
#1339 [12:57] <Helloman892> greenie705, did you mean TheNoodle?
#1340 [12:58] * tyteen4a03 pokes TheNoodle
#1340 [12:58] <TheNoodle> oh, I don't play minecraft
#1341 [12:58] <TheNoodle> Also, hi!
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#1343 [12:59] <VoxelHead> Abbz05, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1344 [12:59] <kolia_rus> i like minecraft
#1345 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> greenie705 was asking how you got your Minecraft to work on Windows 8, TheNoodle
#1346 [13:00] <TheNoodle> >_>
#1347 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle, yes, I assumed that you can't read
#1348 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle, yes, I assumed that you can't read
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#1350 [13:01] <TheNoodle> :3
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#1353 [13:01] <VoxelHead> ConConWonTon, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1354 [13:02] <ConConWonTon> ok
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#1356 [13:02] <VoxelHead> Mncrftr52, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1357 [13:02] <ConConWonTon> on my minecraft the shift click command doesnt work
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#1359 [13:03] <VoxelHead> kolia_rus, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1361 [13:03] <kolia_rus> hello
#1362 [13:03] <ConConWonTon> hi
#1363 [13:03] <kolia_rus> hi :D
#1364 [13:04] <ConConWonTon> hi
#1365 [13:04] <Helloman892> hi.
#1366 [13:04] <Helloman892> hi.
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#1368 [13:04] <kolia_rus> xD
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#1370 [13:05] <VoxelHead> ConConWonTon, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1371 [13:05] <greenie705> if go have win8 watch out minecraft doesn't work and they expect you to mess with your registry and mess up your computer.
#1372 [13:06] <ConConWonTon> i have windows 8 and minecraft works
#1373 [13:06] <ConConWonTon> my shift click command ist working and i dont know why
#1374 [13:06] <kolia_rus> hi helloman892,what are you doing?
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#1376 [13:06] <Helloman892> Not much, kolia_rus. Why d'ya ask?
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#1378 [13:07] <greenie705> really. how did you get it to work I had a friend try it out on his win 8 and it gives the same crazy message about server is too busy try later and sign in take you nowhere
#1379 [13:07] <kolia_rus> english bad
#1380 [13:07] <Helloman892> greenie705, the Minecraft and Mojang websites are unstable at the moment.
#1381 [13:07] <kolia_rus> goodbye
#1382 [13:07] <lutzee> greenie705: currently the minecraft website is experiancing problems, try again later
#1383 [13:07] <Helloman892> Goodbye.
#1384 [13:07] <Helloman892> Goodbye.
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#1386 [13:07] <Helloman892> lutzee, why is your name without it's famous capital letter :L
#1387 [13:08] <Lutzee> :p
#1388 [13:08] <Helloman892> Much better
#1389 [13:08] <Lutzee> Laziness last night
#1390 [13:08] <Helloman892> Fair enough
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#1392 [13:09] <Lutzee> kde is buggier than i expected but meh easier fixes than cinnamon was.
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#1394 [13:10] <VoxelHead> Robi, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1396 [13:14] <VoxelHead> mr_wibble, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1397 [13:16] <Robi> Hello All. I have problem with first run clinet. I bought game for my dother and download Minecraft.exe and can't run on Win XP. Please HELP.
#1398 [13:16] <Gone_Ralex> Robi, do you see any errors?
#1399 [13:16] <Lutzee> Robi: Does the launcher start at all? Do you see the option to log in?
#1400 [13:16] <Robi> no... file simply can't start.
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#1402 [13:17] <VoxelHead> mau5ie, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1403 [13:17] <Lutzee> Does it say anything when you try?
#1404 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> !isdown
#1405 [13:18] <GreyBot> tyteen4a03: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1406 [13:18] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: still a bit unhappy though
#1407 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> somebody remind me to .siteup in 12 minutes
#1408 [13:19] <Robi> only when I can run this file return info abaut wrong cert sign
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#1410 [13:20] <Lutzee> Ah right.. is that notification from your antivirus?
#1411 [13:21] <Helloman892> tyteen4a03, got it
#1412 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892, ?
#1413 [13:21] <Helloman892> >somebody remind me .siteup in 12 minutes
#1414 [13:22] <Robi> when ignore info about file cert WinXp play error sout and nothing happens...
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#1417 [13:23] <VoxelHead> mr_wibble, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1418 [13:23] <Lutzee> Robi: Hmm, not sure, you have java installed right?
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#1420 [13:24] <VoxelHead> Frog_, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1421 [13:25] <Robi> probably yes. on all web site wher I go on this comp everything work fine... (this is my dother comp...)
#1422 [13:26] <Lutzee> hmm considering the other computer is XP i'm wondering whether it is just too old, can i get you to collect a dxdiag report from the xp computer
#1423 [13:26] <Robi> nothing happens
#1424 [13:26] <Lutzee> ?? win/dxdiag
#1425 [13:26] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1426 [13:26] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1427 [13:27] <Robi> I turned off anti-virus currently
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#1429 [13:28] <VoxelHead> benhunter09, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1433 [13:30] <Frog_> When I set up a local server at home I could connect with any username and play as that user. Since a few weeks I get connected as Player regardless of the username I try. I'm using online mode=false. It's only with my licenced username that I can connect as my username. How can I make it work like before?
#1434 [13:30] <greenie705> so just saw a blog says minecraft is not supporting win8 yet its taking our purchases but this was in sept. something should be posted on minecraft so users know this before purhasing.
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#1436 [13:31] <VoxelHead> brand0ng, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1437 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, again, Minecraft does run on Windows 8, however with some modifications to the system because Microsoft is stupid
#1438 [13:32] <Lutzee> greenie705: Not supported doesn't mean it doesn't work, it works fine in 95% of cases
#1439 [13:32] <Helloman892> tyteen4a03, .siteup.
#1440 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> still getting slow pageload
#1441 [13:32] <Lutzee> Mine just loaded fine just now? hmm
#1442 [13:33] <Lutzee> Or not..
#1443 [13:33] <Helloman892> !siteup
#1444 [13:33] <Helloman892> !isdown
#1445 [13:33] <GreyBot> Helloman892: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1446 [13:33] <Helloman892> God, gotta remember that
#1447 [13:33] <Helloman892> !login
#1448 [13:34] <Helloman892> Hmm
#1449 [13:34] <Helloman892> Seems fine for the bots
#1450 [13:34] <Helloman892> tyteen4a03, where in the world are you?
#1451 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892, if the bots can connect then it's just them
#1452 [13:34] <Robi> this is this url with info http://pastebin.com/bcbD3H4c
#1453 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892, Hong Kong
#1454 [13:34] <Lutzee> Bots only check latency gor the reply
#1455 [13:34] <Helloman892> tyteen4a03, I'm in Britain
#1456 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892, I can tell
#1457 [13:34] <Lutzee> XP xeon workstation, thats a fist
#1458 [13:34] <Helloman892> tyteen4a03, much closer to Sweden
#1459 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892, Minecraft.net is located on Amazon servers I think
#1460 [13:35] <Helloman892> You'd be right there
#1461 [13:35] <Lutzee> Unsigned graphics driver
#1462 [13:35] <Helloman892> I was referring to the login server
#1463 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892, login server is also on amazon
#1464 [13:35] <Helloman892> That I didn't know
#1465 [13:36] <Helloman892> Amazon
#1466 [13:36] <Helloman892> Hosted... where?
#1467 [13:36] <Helloman892> I forget
#1468 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> Amazon S3 Cloud servers
#1469 [13:36] <TheNoodle> The clouuuuud
#1470 [13:36] <Helloman892> And those are hosted
#1471 [13:36] <Helloman892> Where?
#1472 [13:36] <Helloman892> Lulz
#1473 [13:36] <Lutzee> Er califonia i think
#1474 [13:36] <Helloman892> Ok.
#1475 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> and around the world
#1476 [13:36] <Helloman892> I can connect just fine.
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#1478 [13:36] <VoxelHead> Knotts, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1479 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892, good for you
#1480 [13:36] <Helloman892> A little slower than usual, but still doable
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#1482 [13:37] <VoxelHead> LaxWasHere, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1483 [13:37] <Knotts> hey guys, can mobs spawn on flowing water blocks?
#1484 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> Knotts, I believe not
#1485 [13:37] <Knotts> ok thanks!
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#1487 [13:37] <Lutzee> All liquids are treated as non solid, non cuboid blocks, so mobs cannot spawn on them apart from squids
#1488 [13:38] <Helloman892> Lutzee, too late.
#1489 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, squids can spawn on blocks?
#1490 [13:38] <Gone_Ralex> doesn't mob spawners though let them spawn in water?
#1491 [13:38] <Helloman892> tyteen4a03, you know what he means XD
#1492 [13:38] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: squids have their own special spawning routine I believe
#1493 [13:38] <Helloman892> Gone_Ralex, yeah.
#1494 [13:38] <Gone_Ralex> thought so
#1495 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, so they first spawn on the water then fall into the water? :P
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#1498 [13:39] <VoxelHead> Moose, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1499 [13:39] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: they spawn somewhere within the block, its only offset numbers from the blocks location
#1500 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, I see
#1501 [13:39] <Moose> amg, shaddup voxelhead. I'm a regular here :O
#1502 [13:39] <Helloman892> Lol.
#1503 [13:39] <Lutzee> EG normal mobs have an offset to place them on top of the blocks
#1504 [13:39] <Helloman892> It's a .sitedown.
#1505 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> Moose, VoxelHead doesn't care about regulars
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#1507 [13:40] <VoxelHead> Salihu, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1508 [13:40] <Moose> that's why I'm attaching a bomb to it's chest, tyteen4a03.
#1509 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> Moose, it is DopeGhoti's property
#1510 [13:41] <Moose> He wouldn't mind if I griefed it.
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#1512 [13:41] <VoxelHead> tikker_, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1514 [13:41] <Moose> what is he, one of them eggdrop bots?
#1515 [13:42] <Moose> yep
#1516 [13:42] <Helloman892> It's authed as DopeGhoti
#1517 [13:42] <Moose> >VoxelHead< CTCP VERSION
#1518 [13:42] <Moose> -VoxelHead- VERSION eggdrop v1.6.19+SSL
#1519 [13:42] <Lutzee> vox is eggdrop with some further customisation
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#1521 [13:42] <VoxelHead> Death_Rider21, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1522 [13:43] <greenie705> how is that when there is two of us in two different locations of calfiornia and both aren't working stay with old machines
#1523 [13:43] <Moose> greenie705, what
#1524 [13:43] <Moose>
#1525 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> greenie705, we already told you how you could make it work, but since you don't want to believe in us we can't help you
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#1527 [13:44] <VoxelHead> Gilded_Knight, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1528 [13:44] <greenie705> there are 2 different laptops in two different locations not in same household and don't wk we should stay on our old window versions
#1529 [13:45] <greenie705> hhhh
#1530 [13:45] <greenie705> hhhhhhhhh
#1531 [13:45] <Moose> see? That's only when voxelhead is effective.
#1532 [13:45] <Robi> Any idea why you can't run mincraft.exe (http://pastebin.com/bcbD3H4c) ?
#1533 [13:46] <Lutzee> Robi: I'm not sure why it isn't working to be honest, try reinstalling java
#1534 [13:46] <greenie705> hhhh
#1535 [13:46] <Robi> ok I try.
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#1537 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, >AGP
#1538 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, try ?? win/intelgpu
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#1540 [13:47] <VoxelHead> nyghtprowler, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1541 [13:47] <Helloman892> ??< win/intelgpu
#1542 [13:48] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: huh?
#1543 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, also, driver update
#1544 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> ??>> Lutzee win/intelgpu
#1545 [13:48] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: his launcher doesnt even start
#1546 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, that is the reason
#1547 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> (the launcher won't start)
#1548 [13:48] <Gone_Ralex> ??< win/intelgpu
#1549 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> if after upgrading and win/intelgpu still doesn't work, his computer is probably too old
#1550 [13:49] <Lutzee> interesting
#1551 [13:49] <nyghtprowler> A group fo friends and I all play on a minecraft server using a texture pack - all of us installed the texture packs and Mc pached. 4 of us are fine, everything works perfect. 1 of them has missing and misaligned textures on crafting tables
#1552 [13:49] <nyghtprowler> anyone have any advice there?
#1553 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> nyghtprowler, try reinstalling the textures
#1554 [13:50] <nyghtprowler> I wish :) we have done that about 20 times over the last week or so - I remoted into his machine and did it myself to assure it was exactly the same process as I followed
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#1556 [13:51] <nyghtprowler> Ive also given him my merged texture pack folder so i know its good. Tried using MC patcher - doesnt fix it, tried using optifine HD, no luck :(
#1557 [13:51] <nyghtprowler> I tried to give him my minecraft.jar file after I patched it and it still didnt work. Thought I would dig around in IRC :P
#1558 [13:52] <Gone_Ralex> it would be better if he was here so we can help
#1559 [13:52] <Gone_Ralex> instead of using a relay
#1560 [13:55] <nyghtprowler> hes remoted into my desktop atm - so he can see this chat
#1561 [13:57] <Gone_Ralex> can he not just join the chat instead?
#1562 [13:57] <nyghtprowler> yeah sec
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#1564 [13:58] <VoxelHead> matt__, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1566 [13:58] <VoxelHead> Thug, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1567 [13:59] <Thug> Hi
#1568 [13:59] <nyghtprowler> sup
#1569 [13:59] <matt__> i am not getting any sound in game, any ida how to fix this?
#1570 [13:59] <nyghtprowler> Gone_Relax Thug is my guddy having the issues
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#1572 [14:00] <VoxelHead> benhunter09, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1573 [14:00] <nyghtprowler> buddy*
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#1576 [14:03] <VoxelHead> NeO_Ramen, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1580 [14:11] <VoxelHead> Ramen, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1583 [14:14] <VoxelHead> Umut, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1584 [14:14] <nyghtprowler> ok, so I have had no success with my previous efforts on getting all of thug's textures to display. We are currently copying my entire minecraft directory from appdata to his machine to see if that will work
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#1586 [14:14] <nyghtprowler> he is in this chat btw if you have questions specifically for him -
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#1588 [14:16] <VoxelHead> cestislife, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1589 [14:16] <nyghtprowler> iv'e ruled out the texture pack folder as in issue - since me and multiple others on the server are also using the same folder and it works fine. I am thinking it is either a java issue or something in his bin folder.
#1590 [14:17] <nyghtprowler> Im hoping that pushing my entire directory to him will do "something" haha
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#1593 [14:18] <VoxelHead> TalonUK, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1595 [14:18] <VoxelHead> RSMDelons, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1596 [14:19] <nyghtprowler> We are running tekkit lite server, using the sphaxPureBD 128 textures running
#1597 [14:20] <Lutzee> nyghtprowler: normally we dont provide support for mods.
#1598 [14:21] <nyghtprowler> i figured - was just hoping someone else has seen this and could provide some insight
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#1600 [14:22] <nyghtprowler> do you guys know of any other IRC chats dealing specifically with these types of issues?
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#1602 [14:22] <nyghtprowler> ( missing textures )
#1603 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> Possibly tekkit's official channel itself.
#1604 [14:22] <nyghtprowler> hmm i was looking around i didnt see a one! lemme go look around agian - unless you have a link handy
#1605 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> irc.synirc.net #technic
#1606 [14:23] <nyghtprowler> nicer
#1607 [14:23] <nyghtprowler> thanks!
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#1609 [14:24] <VoxelHead> pusur44017, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1610 [14:25] <pusur44017> My problem is not about minecraft.net
#1611 [14:25] <Lutzee> pusur44017: that is an automated response
#1612 [14:25] <Helloman892> pusur44017, what's you problem?
#1613 [14:25] <Helloman892> your*
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#1615 [14:26] <pusur44017> I cannot connect to any servers on the retail client (I should still be able to see the server and join it as I always can when minecraft.net is down)
#1616 [14:26] <pusur44017> I know that theses servers are online
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#1619 [14:27] <Helloman892> Wasn't this an issue yesterday as well?
#1620 [14:27] <VoxelHead> pusur44017_, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1621 [14:27] <pusur44017_> soory lost the connection
#1622 [14:27] <Helloman892> Wasn't this an issue yesterday as well?
#1623 [14:28] <Helloman892> Appears to be a problem with your internet connection, IIRC.
#1624 [14:28] <Helloman892> What were the IP addresses of these servers?
#1625 [14:28] <pusur44017_> yes, I didnt get a solution because of a misundersanting and had to try again today because of the connection problem...which lasts today as well
#1626 [14:28] <pusur44017_> bren4q.dyndns.org
#1627 [14:28] <Helloman892> Let's check that again...
#1628 [14:28] <Lutzee> !check bren4q.dyndns.org
#1629 [14:29] <Helloman892> Lol, Lutzee.
#1630 [14:29] <Lutzee> the dyn record is probably outdated,,
#1631 [14:29] <pusur44017_> not the :25565
#1632 [14:29] <Helloman892> !check bren4qdyndns.org
#1633 [14:29] <Helloman892> !check bren4q.dyndns.org
#1634 [14:29] <Helloman892> There we are.
#1635 [14:29] <Lutzee> pusur44017_: the bot automatically prepends the port
#1636 [14:29] <pusur44017_> there we go
#1637 [14:29] <Helloman892> Lutzee, you had a space and I missed a '.'.
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#1639 [14:30] <pusur44017_> This problem has been an issue for the last week
#1640 [14:30] <Helloman892> And this isn't the server, it is the client?
#1641 [14:30] <pusur44017_> and when I try to connect to the server anyway, it says timed out
#1642 [14:30] <Lutzee> ??< client
#1643 [14:30] <pusur44017_> yes, my computer, or minecraft.net
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#1645 [14:30] <VoxelHead> Marc_IRL, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1646 [14:30] <Lutzee> ??< launcher
#1647 [14:30] * Lutzee sighs
#1647 [14:31] <pusur44017_> either something is blocking my request to connect ot the server
#1648 [14:31] <pusur44017_> to*
#1649 [14:31] <pusur44017_> or, something is the matter with my account and minecraft.net doens't let me connect to the server
#1650 [14:31] <Helloman892> I dunno.
#1651 [14:31] <pusur44017_> I have uninstalled hamachi
#1652 [14:31] <Helloman892> Hiya, Marc_IRL.
#1653 [14:32] <Marc_IRL> hello helloman
#1654 [14:32] <pusur44017_> you handle the support emails, right?
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#1656 [14:32] <VoxelHead> Zyferus, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1657 [14:32] <Helloman892> Marc_IRL, he's talking to you.
#1658 [14:32] <Morrolan> Is it happening with that one server only, pusur44017_?
#1659 [14:32] <Lutzee> pusur44017_: If anything it will be firewall/antivirus
#1660 [14:32] <Morrolan> Helloman892 - You still are getting used to IRC, eh.
#1661 [14:33] <Helloman892> Morrolan, no.
#1662 [14:33] <Marc_IRL> pusur44017_: yes
#1663 [14:33] <pusur44017_> no, that is every server classic ( I know you don't support it) or retail
#1664 [14:33] <Helloman892> Morrolan, I've been at this for a while.
#1665 [14:33] <Lutzee> Afternoon Marc
#1666 [14:33] * GreyVulpine waves to Marc_IRL
#1666 [14:33] <Morrolan> Helloman892 - Then you should be aware that people, very often, don't respond instantly.
#1667 [14:33] <pusur44017_> I did disable my firewall and antivirus yesterday
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#1669 [14:33] <pusur44017_> Didn't work
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#1671 [14:34] <Helloman892> Morrolan, meh, I'd been getting used to talking with the speed and effluentness of my friends AI.
#1672 [14:34] <rom1504> :)
#1673 [14:34] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, I have this open while I work, often. I can't have my eyes glued to it all the time or I'd never get anything done.
#1674 [14:34] <Marc_IRL> So what was the question about support emails?
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#1676 [14:35] <Morrolan> pusur44017_ - Are you unable to connect to that specific server only, or to any server?
#1677 [14:35] <Helloman892> Morrolan, Marc_IRL, I find it a true fact that alerting people with their usernames is always useful.
#1678 [14:35] <Morrolan> Yes, that tends to be a good idea.
#1679 [14:35] <pusur44017_> well i've sent you some...and I since I have a bad experience with mojang support, I became impatian since this has been the case for 1 week
#1680 [14:36] <Morrolan> Oh, yes, they are backlogged by three to four weeks, pusur44017_. :P
#1681 [14:36] <Marc_IRL> Sending multiple emails is unfortunately one of the reasons that we're behind
#1682 [14:36] <Marc_IRL> What's your email address?
#1683 [14:36] <pusur44017_> and I have had this problem so many times, so many I can't count it on one hand
#1684 [14:36] <pusur44017_> goats@online.no
#1685 [14:36] <Helloman892> goats
#1686 [14:36] <Helloman892> Aren't online?
#1687 [14:36] <Helloman892> NOOOO
#1688 [14:36] <pusur44017_> :P
#1689 [14:37] <Lutzee> Marc, does the email system sort emails by sender? If not that would probably help you a lot >.>
#1690 [14:37] * mau5ie is now known as greaterman
#1691 [14:37] <Helloman892> I find it funny that I've been trying to get this BB gun set up for the past hour.
#1692 [14:38] <Marc_IRL> What do you mean, sort by sender?
#1693 [14:38] * greaterman is now known as mau5ie
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#1695 [14:39] <Lutzee> I mean, if someone sends two emails, the email system will attach them together,
#1696 [14:39] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, you mean a ticket system
#1697 [14:39] <tyteen4a03> yes we need that
#1698 [14:39] <Marc_IRL> If they come from the same email address, yes, there is a history tab that I can see
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#1700 [14:39] <Marc_IRL> We use desk.com's services, and they're pretty robust
#1701 [14:40] <Marc_IRL> So, when people like our friend here say they've sent many emails, I can see how many they've actually sent
#1702 [14:40] <Marc_IRL> Which, in this case (at least from the same email), is two
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#1704 [14:40] <Lutzee> Ahh i see, looks very nice
#1705 [14:40] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, and super customizable
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#1707 [14:40] <VoxelHead> ac3xx, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1708 [14:40] <pusur44017_> Marc: yes, true. I have to go, will you send me an reply when you have time on your hands?
#1709 [14:41] <Lutzee> Oh and also who is on call over the weekend for server issues? Minecraft.net seems a little sorry for itself
#1710 [14:42] <Morrolan> http://twitter.com/danfrisk, judging by Twitter.
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#1712 [14:42] <VoxelHead> pusur44017, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1713 [14:42] <Marc_IRL> pursur44017: I can already tell you the answer
#1714 [14:42] <pusur44017> ok?
#1715 [14:42] <Marc_IRL> We don't support classic, I don't even know how to fix it, since it was no longer supported before I joined the company a year ago
#1716 [14:42] <pusur44017> Marc
#1717 [14:42] <Marc_IRL> As for the refund, it's a 15 day policy, not a 10 month policy
#1718 [14:42] <Helloman892> Marc_IRL, this isn't about Classic
#1719 [14:42] <pusur44017> this is about retail too
#1720 [14:43] <Helloman892> But the warrenty information is correct
#1721 [14:43] <Helloman892> Which is why it annoys me that I didn't get bored of the game in 15 days ;)
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#1723 [14:43] <pusur44017> retail = premium version
#1724 [14:44] <Marc_IRL> I'm sure that people here would love to help you troubleshoot. But since all users are not having this problem, and all users have the same files, the issue is with the computer it's being run on
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#1726 [14:44] <VoxelHead> anguyen, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1727 [14:44] <Marc_IRL> Minus the temporary login services outage right now
#1728 [14:44] <pusur44017> well, do you have any suggestions?
#1729 [14:44] <anguyen> hello, i need help on tech support, can anyone help?
#1730 [14:44] <Lutzee> anguyen: what is the problem?
#1731 [14:44] <Helloman892> Lutzee, you handle this.
#1732 [14:44] <Helloman892> I'm tired.
#1733 [14:45] <Helloman892> See y'all tomorrow.
#1734 [14:45] <pusur44017> bye
#1735 [14:45] <pusur44017> bye
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#1737 [14:45] <Marc_IRL> I don't, sorry. When people are having trouble with individual computers, I refer them to this chat, because they have far more experience. I can handle accounts and billing support, and a few common tech issues, but the community has dug a lot deeper into this issues, and have been doing technical support much longer. You're in the right place for help.
#1738 [14:45] <anguyen> when am in mincraft, when am playing for a while it start to lagging and froze
#1739 [14:46] <anguyen> did i missed installing something?
#1740 [14:46] <pusur44017> Well thats a downside, but thaks anyway Marc
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#1743 [14:46] <VoxelHead> kusanagi, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1744 [14:46] <kusanagi> oh boy
#1745 [14:46] <Lutzee> anguyen: Common drop in FPS issues can be caused by outdated graphics drivers, low amount of RAM in your PC (especially when other programs are running, eg chrome/firefox)
#1746 [14:47] <Lutzee> anguyen: also how old is your PC? Is it a laptop?
#1747 [14:47] <Marc_IRL> I feel bad that I can't answer all tech support questions, but there are SO MANY of them, and it can be caused by so many different things. If Mojang wasn't an indie company, and we had QA departments, tech support departments, call centers, etc, it would be easier.
#1748 [14:47] <anguyen> this is a new asus laptop 8gm ram i7
#1749 [14:47] <anguyen> am pretty sure it can handle any game
#1750 [14:47] <Lutzee> Ahh, then i suspect driver issues
#1751 [14:48] <Lutzee> What is the make of the laptop?
#1752 [14:48] <anguyen> i play diablo 3 fine, but when play minecraft for a while and it crashing
#1753 [14:48] <anguyen> if it is the driver issue, then i cannot play diablo 3
#1754 [14:48] <Lutzee> anguyen: Diablo3 uses a different set of graphics libraries to minecraft
#1755 [14:48] <anguyen> oh ok
#1756 [14:49] <Lutzee> Updating the graphics driver will not affect your other games
#1757 [14:49] <Lutzee> What make is your asus ?laptop
#1758 [14:49] <Lutzee> s/?laptop/laptop?/
#1759 [14:49] <anguyen> what do u mean by that?
#1760 [14:49] <Lutzee> Model number?
#1761 [14:50] <Marc_IRL> Anyway, that's not an unreasonable line of thought, right?
#1762 [14:50] <anguyen> asus n56v
#1763 [14:50] <Marc_IRL> I think the help site and bug tracker are steps in the right direction
#1764 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Definitely.
#1765 [14:51] <Lutzee> Ahh dual graphics laptop
#1766 [14:51] <Lutzee> ??> anguyen gpu/discrete
#1767 [14:51] <VoxelHead> anguyen: (gpu/discrete) Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#1768 [14:51] <VoxelHead> anguyen: (gpu/discrete) Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#1769 [14:51] <anguyen> ok , thank so much for your help guys
#1770 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - Could you add an FAQ entry on multiple accounts? Specifically addressing the situation of parents buying accounts for their children who want to play together?
#1771 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - Also, chromebooks being known to be incompatible with minecraft
#1772 [14:52] * unimatrix is now known as uni|offline
#1773 [14:53] <Marc_IRL> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/920822-minecraft-on-chromebooks
#1774 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Ah, wonderful.
#1775 [14:53] <Lutzee> I think that might also be useful under the troubleshooting section
#1776 [14:53] * uni|offline is now known as unimatrix
#1777 [14:54] <Marc_IRL> moved
#1778 [14:54] <Marc_IRL> updated for awkward wording :p
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#1780 [14:54] <Marc_IRL> At my old job, that would have taken committee approval to do
#1781 [14:54] <Lutzee> hahaha
#1782 [14:55] <Lutzee> Complete with PACT analysis? ;p
#1783 [14:55] <Marc_IRL> I'm glad I can just change this on the fly, rather than to have people approve it
#1784 [14:55] <Marc_IRL> Let me know if you want anything else added
#1785 [14:55] <Marc_IRL> I think the site is becoming much more functional, especially this wek
#1786 [14:55] <Marc_IRL> week*
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#1788 [14:56] <Lutzee> Mmm yeah
#1789 [14:57] <CrusaderDeleters> Lutzee. \
#1790 [14:57] <CrusaderDeleters> \o*
#1791 [14:58] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: in the how do i get a username article adding the fact that the box for the username will not appear until the transaction has been received by mojang, and that after a few days without appearing the transaction has probably failed and they should contact their bank to find out why
#1792 [14:58] <Marc_IRL> the "How do I create an account?" article?
#1793 [14:59] <Morrolan> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/928638-minecraft-usernames more likely.
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#1795 [14:59] <Marc_IRL> well, the account creation article is super outdated, and I'm actually editing it right now. I'll look at the username article next, though I did just create that one yesterday.
#1796 [15:00] <Lutzee> Not sure er, it was the one saying that a green box appears on the My account page thing
#1797 [15:00] <Lutzee> If you changed it yesterday you might have removed it?
#1798 [15:00] <Morrolan> Nah, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/928638-minecraft-usernames still says that, if one doesn't get an e-mail, there'll still be a green box on one's Mojang profile.
#1799 [15:01] <Morrolan> (Which is correct, once the payment got through, ofcourse)
#1800 [15:02] <Lutzee> Correct, and when a payment has failed there is no notification it has occurred, and people assume the payment was successful
#1801 [15:03] * GeorgeM[AFK] is now known as GeorgeM
#1802 [15:03] <Marc_IRL> I merged the two existing username articles
#1803 [15:03] <Marc_IRL> ooh, they added a 0x10c icon to the account page
#1804 [15:04] <Marc_IRL> er, if you have a code for that game. But that's exciting!
#1805 [15:04] <Lutzee> ¬.^
#1806 [15:07] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL has an icon now too ;;
#1807 [15:07] <Marc_IRL> hmm?
#1808 [15:08] <tikker> we have a Mojang employee here?
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#1810 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> Nope. No Mojang employees here.
#1811 [15:09] <VoxelHead> Mima03, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1812 [15:09] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1812 [15:09] <tikker> Marc_IRL is not from mojang?
#1813 [15:09] <tikker> :p
#1814 [15:09] <Marc_IRL> hmm?
#1815 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> It's his.. body double.
#1816 [15:09] * GreyVulpine nods sagely
#1816 [15:09] * Lutzee agrees with GreyVulpine
#1816 [15:10] <Marc_IRL> There are technically three in here :p What's up?
#1817 [15:10] <tikker> so a body double.. interesting
#1818 [15:11] <Marc_IRL> Yes, in case someone on the internet has a problem with their game and tries to off me
#1819 [15:11] <Lutzee> Leonard has never said a word on the network, /whois lists no idle time
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#1821 [15:11] <VoxelHead> moruk, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1822 [15:12] <Gone_Ralex> tyteen4a03, 12 minutes is up
#1823 [15:12] <tikker> but if Marc_IRL is not from mojang, how come he updating the help page :p
#1824 [15:12] * Rmarmorstein|Bedtime [Rmarmorstein|Bedtime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1825 [15:12] <VoxelHead> Rmarmorstein|Bedtime, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1826 [15:12] <tyteen4a03> hang on
#1827 [15:12] <tyteen4a03> !isdown
#1828 [15:12] <GreyBot> tyteen4a03: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1829 [15:12] * Gone_Ralex was just doing what you asked the channel to do
#1829 [15:12] <tyteen4a03> still down here
#1830 [15:12] <Marc_IRL> it's down for me too
#1831 [15:13] * Rmarmorstein|Bedtime is now known as Rmarmorstein
#1832 [15:13] <Marc_IRL> It's been up and down. Refresh the help site, you'll see it go red every few tries.
#1833 [15:13] <Mima03> Hi, it´s 3 houers ago that i aks for help,: After playing and exit the game i can´t enter the game. I allredy del options.txt, it dosend work...
#1834 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> Mima03, minecraft.net is still down
#1835 [15:13] <Marc_IRL> But it's up enough that you can get through on a few tries. I know Dan was trying to fix it earlier.
#1836 [15:14] <Morrolan> Mima03 - Did you try a force update, too?
#1837 [15:14] <Morrolan> ??> Mima03 forceupdate
#1838 [15:14] <VoxelHead> Mima03: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1839 [15:14] <VoxelHead> Mima03: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1840 [15:14] <Gone_Ralex> <tyteen4a03> somebody remind me to .siteup in 12 minutes <-- all i was doing :P (bored)
#1841 [15:15] <tyteen4a03> Gone_Ralex, well it's still down
#1842 [15:15] <Gone_Ralex> tyteen4a03, well, your timer was wrong :P
#1843 [15:15] <Marc_IRL> actually, "Creating a Minecraft account" can probably be merged into "Minecraft usernames" too. Three articles for the price of one.
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#1845 [15:16] <VoxelHead> laurie, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1847 [15:16] <Marc_IRL> PROBLEM SOLVED
#1848 [15:16] * Marc_IRL highfives VoxelHead
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#1849 [15:17] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL, what
#1850 [15:20] * Grim_Reaper changes tyteen4a03 to tyteen4a01
#1850 [15:21] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper, you're looking for tyteen4a03 -= 2
#1851 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> D:
#1852 [15:22] <Mima03> Morrolan" Even the Launcher dont start!!!
#1853 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Mima03 - Try completely uninstalling and reinstalling java.
#1854 [15:22] <Morrolan> Oh, yea, that's a tad annoying.
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#1857 [15:25] <VoxelHead> vinkaj, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1858 [15:27] <vinkaj> do i have to redeem my ,imecraft purchase before or after i log into the minecraft launch
#1859 [15:27] <Marc_IRL> After; you can't log in unless you have a username
#1860 [15:28] <vinkaj> i have a majong account
#1861 [15:28] <Morrolan> Once the payment cleared, you should receive an e-mail, with a link to choose your username.
#1862 [15:28] <vinkaj> ok
#1863 [15:28] <vinkaj> thanks
#1864 [15:28] <Morrolan> (Once that has been done, you can sign to the launcher with your e-mail address and password.)
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#1869 [15:30] <VoxelHead> RSMDelons, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1871 [15:31] <VoxelHead> Dragonene, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1873 [15:31] <VoxelHead> Frednme, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1876 [15:32] <VoxelHead> benhunter09, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1879 [15:35] <Frednme> For about 24 hrs now, when my grandson logs into minecraft, it's says "our servers are working a bit too hard, please check back later" I can't seem to find out anywhere, whether the site is down or not. Please help!
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#1881 [15:37] <tyteen4a03> Frednme, the site is down
#1882 [15:38] <Frednme> Thank you very much! Thank goodness he has the Xbox version also!
#1883 [15:38] <tyteen4a03> Frednme, no problem
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#1885 [15:39] <VoxelHead> jared, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1886 [15:39] <jared> its not that my problem is my server wont run correctly
#1887 [15:39] <jared> it runs fine until it says failed to bind to port
#1888 [15:40] <Morrolan> Sounds like some other service is already running on that port, then.
#1889 [15:40] <Morrolan> A second Minecraft server?
#1890 [15:40] <jared> how do i check if something is running on that port and no i dont have anyone sever running
#1891 [15:40] <Morrolan> What operating system are you on?
#1892 [15:41] <jared> windows 7
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#1894 [15:43] <VoxelHead> SinZ, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1895 [15:43] <SinZ> Still?
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#1897 [15:44] <jared> morrolan im running windows 7 OS
#1898 [15:44] <tyteen4a03> jared, Open Task Manager and kill every instance of javaw.exe
#1899 [15:44] <jared> ok i will
#1900 [15:45] <jared> ok i had one going but i ended it
#1901 [15:45] <Morrolan> If that doesn't cut it, 'netstat -an'
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#1903 [15:45] <VoxelHead> Disori_, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1904 [15:45] <tyteen4a03> jared, try running your Minecraft server now
#1905 [15:45] <jared> ok
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#1907 [15:46] <jared> same issue "failed to bind to port
#1908 [15:46] <tyteen4a03> jared, do you know how to open a command prompt?
#1909 [15:46] <Morrolan> What port are you trying to use?
#1910 [15:46] <jared> yes
#1911 [15:46] <jared> it shows port 25565
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#1913 [15:47] <VoxelHead> jordan_, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#1915 [15:49] <Morrolan> jared - Put 'netstat -an | find "25565"' in the console, then.
#1916 [15:49] <Morrolan> If that produces any results, there's indeed a service running on that port.
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#1919 [15:51] <VoxelHead> tikker, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1920 [15:52] <jared> it comes up with a bunch of different things but nothing in port 25565
#1921 [15:52] <Morrolan> What does it say?
#1922 [15:52] <Morrolan> If it's only one or two lines, copy it in here. If it's more, put it on www.pastebin.com
#1923 [15:53] <jared> a bunch of number connections
#1924 [15:53] <Marc_IRL> If someone wanted to request a mod, where would you guys suggest the top 3 places to go would be?
#1925 [15:53] <Morrolan> Requesting a mod?
#1926 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Minecraftforums
#1927 [15:53] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL, #risucraft, #somethingIforgot, MinecraftForums
#1928 [15:53] <Morrolan> Contact a mod dev, offer payment.
#1929 [15:53] <Morrolan> If you *really* want it, and want it fast, paying someone is the way to go.
#1930 [15:53] <tyteen4a03> you also have #bukkit
#1931 [15:53] <Marc_IRL> I think the MinecraftForums is my top pick. Need two more solid resources.
#1932 [15:54] <Marc_IRL> Like, someone has a suggestion for the game, and I say well go make it a mod, and send them to these places
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#1934 [15:54] <VoxelHead> tiger_m, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1935 [15:54] <jared> how do i copy command prompt it wont let me copy it
#1936 [15:54] <Lutzee> Contacting a mod dev concerning their mod is always the forums
#1937 [15:54] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL, I don't think these kind of stuff are really welcomed here
#1938 [15:54] <tyteen4a03> jared, right click, select Select, copy everything then press Enter
#1939 [15:54] <Marc_IRL> tyteen4a03: It's for a help article
#1940 [15:55] <jared> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Jared>netstat -an Active Connections Proto Local Address Foreign Address State TCP 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING TCP 0.0.0.0:445 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING TCP 0.0.0.0:554 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING TCP 0.0.0.0:808 0.0.0.0:0
#1941 [15:55] <tyteen4a03> jared, use Pastebin.com\
#1942 [15:55] <Marc_IRL> I crowdsource a lot of the community stuff from this channel so I can ensure it's accurate
#1943 [15:55] <jared> ok sorry
#1944 [15:55] <DiskDaemon> jared: Please use pastebin
#1945 [15:55] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: Sugesting someone makes a mod isnt really a good idea, learning programming isn't easy, and learning it the context of writing a mod is a bad idea
#1946 [15:55] <DiskDaemon> ??> jared pastebin
#1947 [15:55] <VoxelHead> jared: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1948 [15:55] <Morrolan> jared - You're missing half the command.
#1949 [15:55] <Morrolan> 'netstat -an | find "25565"'
#1950 [15:55] * GeorgeM is now known as GeorgeM[AFK]
#1951 [15:55] <Morrolan> Only ports we're interested in is the one which it fails to bind to. :)
#1952 [15:56] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: Its a case that sending them to eg #risucraft they will get told bluntly "Go learn java"
#1953 [15:56] <Marc_IRL> >_<
#1954 [15:56] <Marc_IRL> Lutzee: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/920890-where-can-i-submit-suggestions-
#1955 [15:56] <jared> how do i make the line in the middle of the command
#1956 [15:56] <ShaRose> Lutzee what, for someone wanting to make a mod? yeah, because that's the only thing to tell them
#1957 [15:56] <Morrolan> Depends on your keyboard layout. For me it's AltGr-7
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#1959 [15:56] <VoxelHead> Bamboocha_, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#1960 [15:57] <Marc_IRL> for me it's shift+\
#1961 [15:57] <Morrolan> jared - You can just paste it though. (right-click the console, paste)
#1962 [15:57] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL, try MinecraftForums, MinecraftForums, and MinecraftForums
#1963 [15:57] <Marc_IRL> there really aren't a second and third choice?
#1964 [15:57] <tyteen4a03> I would say no, at least not on IRC
#1965 [15:57] <Marc_IRL> I know there are lots of other good community sites out there, like... planetminecraft. Does that have mods?
#1966 [15:57] <DiskDaemon> The top choice for me would be this specific forum - http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/52-requests-ideas-for-mods/
#1967 [15:57] <Marc_IRL> I'm not looking for IRC channels
#1968 [15:58] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: very few people will make a mod on request
#1969 [15:58] <Marc_IRL> Lutzee: well yeah, but it's better than me not having any answers at all :p
#1970 [15:58] <ShaRose> Lutzee and the few that will won't do it unless it's small
#1971 [15:58] <Morrolan> Or they get paid. :D
#1972 [15:58] <ShaRose> as the saying goes, modders aren't short on ideas
#1973 [15:58] <Morrolan> But that won't look too god in Mojang's "official" FAQ, I suppose. :P
#1974 [15:59] <jared> yah i have no idea how to make that line in the middle of the command
#1975 [15:59] <Marc_IRL> And done: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/920890-where-can-i-submit-suggestions-
#1976 [15:59] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: point them at the forums, i say
#1977 [15:59] <Morrolan> jared - Then just copy-paste it.
#1978 [15:59] <jared> ok
#1979 [15:59] <Morrolan> Copy it in here, right-click the console, select 'paste'.
#1980 [15:59] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL, are there no way to officially submit suggestions?
#1981 [16:00] <Marc_IRL> No.
#1982 [16:00] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL could add "or, if you currently know or are willing to learn java, you can create a mod yourself" etc
#1983 [16:00] <Marc_IRL> The developers may occasionally look at things, or be inspired by things, but from what I understand, they have no shortage of ideas for the game.
#1984 [16:00] <jared> nothing comes up
#1985 [16:00] <DiskDaemon> Details on how to create mods yourself, are found at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Creating_Mods
#1986 [16:00] <jared> i pasted it and hit eneter but it just skips to a new line
#1987 [16:01] <Lutzee> They take a lot of ideas from mods, eg recently the hopper, both prominent in Better than wolves and buildcraft
#1988 [16:01] <Marc_IRL> Maybe, maybe not. At this point, almost everything has been done somehow. Everyone is going to say it's been copied from somewhere else.
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#1990 [16:01] <Marc_IRL> Adding dinosaurs? Already a mod. Mojang stole the idea.
#1991 [16:01] <Marc_IRL> That conversation is old and annoying, honestly
#1992 [16:02] <Morrolan> jared - If it merely outputs an empty line then that means there's nothing listening on the port your server is trying to use. Which means your issue is due to something else.
#1993 [16:02] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL really the only things they haven't been done are really large scale things
#1994 [16:02] <jared> what else could be causing it?
#1995 [16:02] <ShaRose> like that civilization mod thing I wrote up a few days ago
#1996 [16:02] <Lutzee> Marc_IRL: mojang stole nothing, they reserved the right a long time ago
#1997 [16:02] * Smanly|Away is now known as Smanly
#1998 [16:03] <Morrolan> Lutzee - Because it's legally correct doesn't mean it's morally correct. ;)
#1999 [16:03] <Morrolan> So, as long as there'll be new features which have been seen somewhere, there'll be discussion.
#2000 [16:03] <Morrolan> jared - Before we dwelve deeper, add a "/c" to the end. Should then output '0'.
#2001 [16:03] <Lutzee> Morrolan: from my knowledge those ideas that have been implemented, the creator was happy that they had one less item to maintain :p
#2002 [16:04] <Morrolan> jared - That is, the command should look like this: netstat -abn | find "26929" /c
#2003 [16:04] <Morrolan> Lutzee - Maybe. :)
#2004 [16:04] <jared> yes it came back as a 0
#2005 [16:04] <ShaRose> Morrolan morally correct? like Marc_IRL said, all ideas have been come up with
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#2007 [16:05] <Morrolan> jared - Mweh.
#2008 [16:06] <jared> ??
#2009 [16:06] <Morrolan> jared - Feel like reinstalling Java? ;)
#2010 [16:06] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, your emotions confused people
#2011 [16:06] <Morrolan> Yea, annoyed.
#2012 [16:06] <jared> ummm ill give it a try
#2013 [16:06] <Morrolan> You know what, I really ought to work on some other stuff, stick around, jared, and someone will take you over.
#2014 [16:06] <jared> ok
#2015 [16:06] <Kealper> !check 127.0.0.1
#2016 [16:07] * Kealper broke it
#2016 [16:07] <Kealper> and why is her server taking like... years to respond
#2017 [16:07] <[z]> 1.5second ping to localhost?
#2018 [16:08] <Kealper> it isn't pinging, it's counting the time it takes to get a socket back from the connect call, since Minecraft doesn't really have a ping
#2019 [16:08] <Kealper> but i guess that could lie, since it's a three-way handshake
#2020 [16:08] <Kealper> but 1.5 seconds is still slow as heck
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#2024 [16:12] <VoxelHead> RSMDelons, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
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#2027 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> AuBot's latency chacks are _always_ superlong
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#2029 [16:16] <Lutzee> Half due to the fact the server has to check against the session servers in the process
#2030 [16:16] <jared> i reinstalled java but the server still wont bind to port
#2031 [16:18] <[z]> Try just using a different port?
#2032 [16:18] <jared> how
#2033 [16:18] <Lutzee> Change the config file
#2034 [16:18] <Lutzee> server.properties
#2035 [16:18] <[z]> oh
#2036 [16:18] <[z]> actually
#2037 [16:18] <[z]> did you set the server-ip or whatever line in there?
#2038 [16:18] <jared> yes
#2039 [16:18] * benhunter09 is now known as benhunter09|away
#2040 [16:18] <[z]> then that's why its not wkring
#2041 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> don't do that
#2042 [16:19] <Morrolan> Ack.
#2043 [16:19] <[z]> working
#2044 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> leave it empty
#2045 [16:19] <jared> ok
#2046 [16:19] <Morrolan> And I, obviously, didn't think of that.
#2047 [16:19] <jared> it worked
#2048 [16:19] <jared> thanks guys
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#2050 [16:20] <Morrolan> Sometimes it'd be nice to have forum posts, wiki articles, or even just pastebin files, with issues, explanations, and possible solutions.
#2051 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> like this one?
#2052 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/serversetup
#2053 [16:20] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#2054 [16:20] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2055 [16:20] <Morrolan> That's a guide. Having to search through all semi-related guides is a PITA.
#2056 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/server-ip
#2057 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> ?? properties/server-ip
#2058 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> ??!
#2059 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> ?? properties/server-ip
#2060 [16:22] * DopeGhoti laughs at his overly-effective flood prevention
#2060 [16:22] <DiskDaemon> Morrolan: I started putting together something like that at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting
#2061 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> ??>> Morrolan properties/server-ip
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#2064 [16:23] <VoxelHead> Andrew, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#2065 [16:23] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - Yea, VoxelHead's factoids are great when I /know/ the solution, and want a well-written paragraph of text to explain it. But when I'm told that
#2066 [16:23] <Andrew> can i have help?
#2067 [16:24] <Guest86737> wut?
#2068 [16:24] <Morrolan> Andrew has been registered by someone, it seems.
#2069 [16:24] <Morrolan> "/nick newnick" will allow you to set your nick.
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#2071 [16:24] <VoxelHead> NinjaKirby, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#2072 [16:24] <Morrolan> After that, just ask, and you'll get an answer.
#2073 [16:25] <DiskDaemon> Morrolan: It sounds like what you're after is a script, that can take a troubleshooter through what to check, and how to resolve different issues
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#2077 [16:26] <VoxelHead> [L], welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#2078 [16:26] <AndrewN> Is there anyone who can help me??
#2079 [16:26] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - No, your wiki article is pretty much what I'm looking for.
#2080 [16:26] <[L]> VoxelHead: No
#2081 [16:26] <Morrolan> AndrewN - Again, just ask.
#2082 [16:26] <DiskDaemon> AndrewN: Put tab A in to slot B. What info about what you want help with can you give us?
#2083 [16:27] <DiskDaemon> Morrolan: I have work to do on updating it. Marc_IRL has been working on a more centralised set of help too, at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/420959
#2084 [16:27] <AndrewN> Yesterday, around 6:00 PM EST, I had purchased minecraft. It gave me a receipt, but, I never received the Premium Subscription.
#2085 [16:27] <Mima03> GreyVulpine" thank you very much for your recomdendation... now it works again... Also thanks to Tyteen4a03 and Morrolan...
#2086 [16:28] <DiskDaemon> AndrewN: Please check with your bank to see if you were charged. A receipt doesn't mean that the transaction was successful
#2087 [16:28] <AndrewN> I haven't been charged...
#2088 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: fair enough. That is in part why we have the error category, and why I am planning to move the system to a tag-based datbase lookup
#2089 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> with a snazzy web front-end possibly
#2090 [16:28] <AndrewN> But, it says I had to wait 24 hours to make another purchase...
#2091 [16:28] <AndrewN> Not sure why.
#2092 [16:29] <Lutzee> AndrewN: To protect you from fraud
#2093 [16:29] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - That's nice. I'll drop some rationale into the backroom in a bit.
#2094 [16:29] <DiskDaemon> AndrewN: Please contact your bank - they may be blocking international transactions on your account to protect you, and if not, they may have details on what the issue is
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#2096 [16:29] <VoxelHead> kermi, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#2097 [16:30] <AndrewN> I'll try paypal.
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#2099 [16:30] <VoxelHead> NinjaKirby, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#2100 [16:30] <NinjaKirby> I know VoxelBot, you can cease informing me, instead tell me about how annoying Steam is, or perhaps I should inform you?
#2101 [16:30] <kermi> Uhm, I want to edit an texturepack and remove the "thickness" of the paintings. How do I do that?
#2102 [16:30] <kermi> Uhm, I want to edit an texturepack and remove the "thickness" of the paintings. How do I do that?
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#2104 [16:31] <DiskDaemon> kermi: A texturepack cannot change the thickness of things
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#2106 [16:31] <VoxelHead> iluapffej, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft.net is currently very unstable. Mojang will be fixing this issue very shortly.
#2107 [16:31] <kermi> no but you can make it transparent
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#2110 [16:33] <kermi> I mean if you have a painting which is not a square you will see a brown border
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#2112 [16:34] <DiskDaemon> kermi: You can use any paint program to edit a texture pack
#2113 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> !topic -1
#2114 [16:34] <DiskDaemon> Just extract the contents of the texture pack, edit the graphics file with your changes, and then compress it up again
#2115 [16:35] <tyteen4a03> is Minecraft.net back normal?
#2116 [16:35] <kermi> yes I've done this. but there is an brown border
#2117 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: supposedly (:
#2118 [16:36] <tyteen4a03> .siteup
#2119 [16:36] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon, surely you can break it in here?
#2120 [16:36] <NinjaKirby> Does anyone know a program that "does one better" then Task Manager's "End Task"?
#2121 [16:36] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, process explorer
#2122 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> Right, I have to already, any recommended buttons to push?
#2123 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> Uh... *I have that already
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#2126 [16:37] <Bouncyj> i need help
#2127 [16:37] <Lutzee> As far as i know end task performs a forceful process kill
#2128 [16:37] <Bouncyj> i just5 go9t my brand new mac and when i install mine craft it says its dmaagedt
#2129 [16:38] <Bouncyj> and that o should move it to the trrash
#2130 [16:38] <Morrolan> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#2131 [16:38] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#2132 [16:38] <Lutzee> ??> Bouncyj mac/gatekeeper/disable
#2133 [16:38] <VoxelHead> Bouncyj: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#2134 [16:38] <Morrolan> Give those instructions a try. That's a bug in Gatekeeper.
#2135 [16:38] <Lutzee> ..
#2136 [16:38] <Morrolan> Lutzee - Have the "basic" instructions ever worked, anyway?
#2137 [16:38] <Morrolan> I have yet to see a case where we could get away without disabling Gatekeeper alltogether.
#2138 [16:38] <Bouncyj> ?
#2139 [16:38] <Lutzee> Morrolan: From my experiance no.
#2140 [16:38] <Lutzee> Morrolan: From my experiance no.
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#2143 [16:38] <Bouncyj> whats gatekeeper
#2144 [16:39] <Morrolan> Bouncyj - A new security feature introduced with the latest Version of OS X.
#2145 [16:39] * Grim_Reaper yawns
#2145 [16:39] <Bouncyj> how do i get their
#2146 [16:39] <Morrolan> Bouncyj - Read through http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290 and then set it to "Allow Apps from anywhere"
#2147 [16:39] <Grim_Reaper> If you look at VoxelHead's instructions as well Bouncyj should give you a general idea I think
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#2150 [16:40] <Morrolan> Scott - Do you happen to be present?
#2151 [16:41] <Scott> yes but I am working
#2152 [16:42] <Morrolan> Scott - Correct me if I'm wrong, but you once tried to contact Apple about Gatkeeper saying that Minecraft is "damaged" instead of simply "unsigned". Ever got any response?
#2153 [16:42] <Morrolan> And take your time, we're in no hurry here. :)
#2154 [16:42] <Scott> I did not contact them.
#2155 [16:42] <Scott> I'm not sure why it does that.
#2156 [16:42] <Scott> It's probably because of the way they package Minecraft.app.
#2157 [16:42] <Scott> You could try contacting AppleCare.
#2158 [16:43] <Morrolan> Eh, that's something Mojang should do. Which means it won't get done anytime soon, I guess.
#2159 [16:43] <Morrolan> Marc_IRL - Think you could mention this to Jeb one of these days?
#2160 [16:43] <Morrolan> Scott - Thanks for the info, though. :)
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#2162 [16:44] <NinjaKirby> Thank you Voxel, for sparing me this time.
#2163 [16:44] <Marc_IRL> I'll see what I can do
#2164 [16:45] <Morrolan> That'd be nice. It's an issue which, to the average user, must be rather scary.
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#2166 [16:51] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, it is. I get refund requests for people who want to re-purchase and re-download a non-broken copy.
#2167 [16:51] <Marc_IRL> To us, that seems insane. But to some, that seems normal.
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#2170 [16:54] <theAn0va> Hey there, theAn0va is my name, I bought minecraft downloaded it and it didn't even start. Nothing happened. HELP!
#2171 [16:54] <tyteen4a03> theAn0va, is there an error message? Is the screen white or black?
#2172 [16:54] <theAn0va> nothing
#2173 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> theAn0va: when you say 'nothing happened', do you mean that exactly? No windows opening and closing; no error messages; the icon doesn't highlight -- absolutely nothing?
#2174 [16:54] <theAn0va> the cursor changes for a second
#2175 [16:54] <theAn0va> yes
#2176 [16:54] <theAn0va> nothing
#2177 [16:54] <theAn0va> no windows
#2178 [16:54] <theAn0va> no errors
#2179 [16:55] <tyteen4a03> theAn0va, Windows I presume?
#2180 [16:55] <[z]> What did you download, from where?
#2181 [16:55] <theAn0va> the windows download from minecraft.net
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#2183 [16:55] <theAn0va> and it's not java
#2184 [16:55] <Awesomedudepwnsu> can someone help me?
#2185 [16:55] <tyteen4a03> ??> Awesomedudepwnsu ask
#2186 [16:55] <VoxelHead> Awesomedudepwnsu: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2187 [16:55] <VoxelHead> Awesomedudepwnsu: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2188 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> ??> theAn0va java/version
#2189 [16:55] <VoxelHead> theAn0va: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2190 [16:55] <VoxelHead> theAn0va: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2191 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> theAn0va: please go there and tell us what version of Java you have installed.
#2192 [16:56] <theAn0va> "You have the recommended Java installed (Version 7 Update 10)."
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#2194 [16:56] <theAn0va> what now?
#2195 [16:56] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti, should we also recommend everybody to downgrade to java 6?
#2196 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> theAn0va: I would delete the file you had downloaded, and obtain a new copy
#2197 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> ??> theAn0va win/client
#2198 [16:56] <VoxelHead> theAn0va: (win/client) https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#2199 [16:56] <VoxelHead> theAn0va: (win/client) https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
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#2201 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: I try to keep that in my back pocket; let's get the launcher launching first
#2202 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: though it can be helpful
#2203 [16:57] <tyteen4a03> well Oracle has no idea how to fix the exploit, so was wondering
#2204 [16:57] <theAn0va> nope
#2205 [16:57] <theAn0va> nothing happened
#2206 [16:57] <Awesomedudepwnsu> i need help because my minecraft is not working. when i start it up, it will saylogin so i do and after that, it says updating minecraft buyt then it frezz's and goes into a black screen
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#2208 [16:58] <theAn0va> can an admin help me with teamviewer?
#2209 [16:58] <theAn0va> or anything else
#2210 [16:58] <tyteen4a03> theAn0va, DopeGhoti is currently working on your issue
#2211 [16:58] <tyteen4a03> Awesomedudepwnsu, does the web version work? http://minecraft.net/play
#2212 [16:58] <Awesomedudepwnsu> no
#2213 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> theAn0va: I'd be happy to take a look with Teamviewer
#2214 [16:58] <theAn0va> k
#2215 [16:59] <Awesomedudepwnsu> same thing
#2216 [16:59] <tyteen4a03> Awesomedudepwnsu, has it ever worked before?
#2217 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> theAn0va: please PM me your partner ID and one-time password.
#2218 [16:59] <theAn0va> how do i PM`?
#2219 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> theAn0va: to do so, say "/msg DopeGhoti message goes here"
#2220 [16:59] <Awesomedudepwnsu> yes but today it just stoped working
#2221 [17:00] <tyteen4a03> Awesomedudepwnsu, have you installed any mods or texture packs?
#2222 [17:01] <Awesomedudepwnsu> i tryd mods but it didnt work so i gave up and then minecraft stoped working and then i deleted everything then tryd to re install but it still didnt work
#2223 [17:01] <tyteen4a03> ??> Awesomedudepwnsu forceupdate
#2224 [17:01] <VoxelHead> Awesomedudepwnsu: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2225 [17:01] <VoxelHead> Awesomedudepwnsu: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2226 [17:01] <Awesomedudepwnsu> ok
#2227 [17:01] <Awesomedudepwnsu> wait a sec
#2228 [17:02] <Awesomedudepwnsu> IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2229 [17:02] <[z]> heh
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#2231 [17:03] <Eddie> lol
#2232 [17:03] <benhunter09> He seemed happy
#2233 [17:03] <tyteen4a03> there goes another hyper customer
#2234 [17:04] <[z]> Very innacurate nick
#2235 [17:04] <[z]> *inaccurate
#2236 [17:04] <tyteen4a03> [z], tell me about it
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#2240 [17:10] <fuzz> anyone here to answer a question?
#2241 [17:10] <DiskDaemon> of course
#2242 [17:10] <fuzz> My son has an account and I want to play with him on a server
#2243 [17:10] <fuzz> but no where can i find where to buy a 2nd license
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#2245 [17:10] <fuzz> Ive been looking for 2 weeks
#2246 [17:11] <[z]> Same way you bought the first one?
#2247 [17:11] <DiskDaemon> ^
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#2249 [17:11] <fuzz> thats what i read. But when I log into the account there is no option to buy another license
#2250 [17:11] <Lutzee> fuzz: you need a new account
#2251 [17:11] <tyteen4a03> fuzz, yes
#2252 [17:11] <fuzz> so I need to make another user name then?
#2253 [17:11] <DiskDaemon> One person, one account. That seems to be the way of things.
#2254 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> A new mojang.com account, yes
#2255 [17:11] <Lutzee> fuzz: https://account.mojang.com/register
#2256 [17:12] <fuzz> well that explains it. I was pulling my hair out for the last 2 weeks. I couldnt even login to the forums. it wouldnt let me.. I stumbed into here
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#2258 [17:12] <fuzz> thanks
#2259 [17:12] <fuzz> quit
#2260 [17:12] <fuzz> exit
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#2262 [17:12] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2262 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> theAn0va win/hosts
#2263 [17:13] <VoxelHead> theAn0va: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2264 [17:13] <VoxelHead> theAn0va: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2265 [17:14] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti, eh?
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#2270 [17:19] <Sy> How do we get they
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#2272 [17:20] <Sy> How do we get the demo of Minecraft?
#2273 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#2274 [17:20] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#2275 [17:20] <yellowduck> Create an account, then select play demo
#2276 [17:20] <Sy> Ok
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#2278 [17:21] <Sy> There is no demo option, only buy.
#2279 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Have you created a mojang.com account yet?
#2280 [17:22] <yellowduck> click don't buy yet, go to homepage, and select play demo
#2281 [17:22] <Sy> Yes
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#2283 [17:23] <yellowduck> what does this mean? it happens each time I create a new world - http://pastebin.com/aKWEehgg
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#2285 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> yellowduck: please post the complete error log
#2286 [17:24] <yellowduck> it's there
#2287 [17:24] <yellowduck> in pastebin
#2288 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> yellowduck: that's only part of it
#2289 [17:24] <yellowduck> How?
#2290 [17:25] <yellowduck> You want me to copy my entire forge log?
#2291 [17:25] <Lutzee> ??> yellowduck mods
#2292 [17:25] <VoxelHead> yellowduck: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2293 [17:25] <VoxelHead> yellowduck: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2294 [17:26] <yellowduck> Lutzee I am well aware of the rules on help, but this has nothing to do with my mods, it's a minecraft problem
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#2296 [17:27] <Lutzee> Forge log, as in minecraft forge i shall asume..
#2297 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> yellowduck: to confirm, try creating a world without any mods installed
#2298 [17:27] <yellowduck> Okay
#2299 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> thank you.
#2300 [17:27] <samuel> when I have downloaded the snapshot, how do I make it work?
#2301 [17:27] <Lutzee> Also the fact that your error is in the forge error format.
#2302 [17:27] <yellowduck> that will take a while, though
#2303 [17:28] <Lutzee> samuel: what OS are you on?
#2304 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> yellowduck: that's fine; we're paid by the hour.
#2305 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> $0.00, but stil
#2306 [17:28] <yellowduck> Want me to get it from the client?
#2307 [17:28] <samuel> what do you mean with "OS"?
#2308 [17:28] <Lutzee> Operating system
#2309 [17:28] <Lutzee> EG windows/mac/linux
#2310 [17:29] <samuel> okay, windows vista
#2311 [17:29] <yellowduck> don't look at it that way, look at it like $1000.00^0
#2312 [17:29] <Lutzee> ??> samuel win/.minecraft
#2313 [17:29] <VoxelHead> samuel: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#2314 [17:29] <Lutzee> ^ follow those instructions
#2315 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> yellowduck: That's be $1, which is more than I make here (:
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#2317 [17:29] <Lutzee> Then go into the bin folder and replace the minecraft(.jar) file in there with the one you downloaded from mojang.com
#2318 [17:30] <Lutzee> Then run the game and you should be running the snapshot
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#2320 [17:30] <yellowduck> Why does Jeb hate modders?
#2321 [17:31] <Lutzee> Jeb does not hate modders.
#2322 [17:31] <samuel> okey, thanks for the help :)
#2323 [17:31] <yellowduck> He releases updates RIGHT when everything is up to date
#2324 [17:31] <Lutzee> Infact he is known to have interacted with some skilled modders in implementing some stuff
#2325 [17:31] <samuel> btw, when do the new redstone update comes out more exxacly?
#2326 [17:31] <Lutzee> samuel: sometime in the next 2 months probably
#2327 [17:32] <Lutzee> yellowduck: the release dates are not decided by Jeb.
#2328 [17:32] <samuel> okey, good i'm really looking forward to it!
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#2330 [17:32] <yellowduck> What's the new redstone about?
#2331 [17:33] <yellowduck> Lutzee; fine, the Mojang Minecraft team hates modders
#2332 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> yellowduck: Details are at www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_Update
#2333 [17:33] <Lutzee> yellowduck: They are completely rewriting the redstone system to work better
#2334 [17:33] <yellowduck> How will they do that?
#2335 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> lots of toil
#2336 [17:34] <DiskDaemon> yellowduck: That link takes you to details on how they are doing that
#2337 [17:34] <Tridonious> can somebody help me out with this problem I'm having? Whenever I load up Minecraft it says this "Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine." and then under that it says Error: A fatal exception has occured. Program will exit."
#2338 [17:34] <yellowduck> I don't really understand how you can make the redstone any better
#2339 [17:35] <yellowduck> You need to update Java
#2340 [17:35] <Tridonious> thats it?
#2341 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> yellowduck: for one, it's not going to simply be binary any longer
#2342 [17:35] <Lutzee> yellowduck: Internal rewrites can affect how the game deals with the redstone without changing its functionality
#2343 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> it'll be mroe analog
#2344 [17:35] <yellowduck> Update java and try to replicate the error
#2345 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> signal levels rather than signal/no signal
#2346 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> redstone signals don't just go for 15 blocks anymore
#2347 [17:36] <Lutzee> But signal/nosignal will work still
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#2349 [17:37] <yellowduck> Did that Archer guy get banned?
#2350 [17:37] <kbasten> Banane :p
#2351 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> No.
#2352 [17:38] <yellowduck> Oh, a fail at typing Banana
#2353 [17:39] <Tridonious> ok I just updated java, and its still doing the same problem
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#2355 [17:40] <samuel> hmm..it's a little bit hard for me to find that minecraft file ".jar"
#2356 [17:41] <remusg> !check 37.59.252.115:25565
#2357 [17:41] <Lutzee> samuel: .jar is the extension, you might not see it
#2358 [17:41] <Lutzee> it might just appear as minecraft
#2359 [17:41] <remusg> !check server.EarthMoversMC.com
#2360 [17:42] <samuel> can you speak swedish?
#2361 [17:42] <samuel> cuz im a swesish guy :)
#2362 [17:43] <yellowduck> (go to translate.google.com)
#2363 [17:43] <Lutzee> samuel: unfortunately not
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#2365 [17:44] <samuel> no i can speak and write english but if he could swedish it would be a bit easier :)
#2366 [17:44] <samuel> okey
#2367 [17:44] <ryan_> hi was wandering can runing a server harm my computer
#2368 [17:44] <Lutzee> ryan_: no
#2369 [17:45] <DiskDaemon> Yes it can
#2370 [17:45] <samuel> back to the main subjekt, when i look in the folder "bin", what file should I look for?
#2371 [17:45] <ryan_> ok do you know how
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#2373 [17:45] <DiskDaemon> For details, see http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
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#2375 [17:45] <DiskDaemon> "Do not open ports in your router without knowing exactly what you are doing."
#2376 [17:45] <Lutzee> Running a server cannot dirrectly affect your PC, but it does come with some risk factors
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#2378 [17:45] <yellowduck> IT'S A TRAP
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#2381 [17:47] <GigiWolf08> can anyone answer a question about the java warning issued by home land security
#2382 [17:47] <Lutzee> What is the question?
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#2384 [17:47] <GigiWolf08> well is there any other way to play minecraft
#2385 [17:48] <Lutzee> Using the downloaded launcher is perfectly safe
#2386 [17:48] <Lutzee> It only affects the web browser plugins
#2387 [17:48] <Kenny> the last update deleted my builds but only in part is there anything that can be done
#2388 [17:50] <GigiWolf08> I have temporarily disabled it as advised but I want to play minecraft, so I should enable it to play
#2389 [17:50] <tyteen4a03> GigiWolf08, uninstall Java 7 and install Java 6
#2390 [17:50] <GigiWolf08> and it will be safe
#2391 [17:50] <tyteen4a03> GigiWolf08, Java 6 is not affected by this security exploit
#2392 [17:50] * Gone_Ralex is now known as Lord_Ralex
#2393 [17:50] <tyteen4a03> plus, in many cases it works better with Minecraft
#2394 [17:50] <tyteen4a03> ??> GigiWolf08 java/1.6
#2395 [17:50] <VoxelHead> GigiWolf08: (java/1.6) To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2396 [17:51] <yellowduck> Did that last guy's problem afflict with java?
#2397 [17:51] <tyteen4a03> yellowduck, who?
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#2400 [17:51] <yellowduck> don't remember, his mincraft couldn't create a virtual machine
#2401 [17:51] <samuel> I have a problem with file in the folder "bin" am i supost to replaace?
#2402 [17:51] <samuel> *wich
#2403 [17:52] <tyteen4a03> yellowduck, not enough RAM
#2404 [17:52] <Morrolan> Trying to install a snapshot, samuel?
#2405 [17:52] <samuel> *witch file sry for that :/
#2406 [17:52] <Morrolan> If yes, then 'minecraft.jar' is what you are looking for.
#2407 [17:52] <samuel> yes! :)
#2408 [17:52] <Morrolan> Yea, then replace 'minecraft.jar' with the new one you downloaded.
#2409 [17:52] <Kenny> the last update deleted my builds but only in part is there anything that can be done?
#2410 [17:52] <samuel> okey, can I find the file in the bin folder?
#2411 [17:52] <GigiWolf08> thank you tyteen4a03 and Voxelhead
#2412 [17:53] <tyteen4a03> GigiWolf08, no problem
#2413 [17:53] * tyteen4a03 pats VoxelHead
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#2414 [17:53] <yellowduck> Voxelhead's a bot...
#2415 [17:53] <yellowduck> Voxelhead's a bot...
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#2417 [17:55] <Morrolan> Bots desire some patting, too.
#2418 [17:55] <Morrolan> samuel - Yes, minecraft.jar is located in the bin folder.
#2419 [17:56] <samuel> I cant find it :/
#2420 [17:56] <Morrolan> Which files do you see in the bin folder, then?
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#2424 [17:59] <samuel> well, their is many files..for example achiements, armor, terrain
#2425 [17:59] <samuel> and a LOT of "class" files
#2426 [17:59] <Morrolan> Then you're in too deep.
#2427 [17:59] <Morrolan> Seems you opened the 'minecraft.jar' file with 7zip / WinRAR or similar.
#2428 [17:59] <samuel> okey
#2429 [18:01] <samuel> I went like: appdata>roaming>.minecraft
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#2432 [18:03] <samuel> oh I found it!
#2433 [18:03] <samuel> thank for the help ;)
#2434 [18:05] <Morrolan> Sure thing. :)
#2435 [18:06] <DrSigmaFruit> What other factors give you the "can't reach server" bug
#2436 [18:06] <DrSigmaFruit> I already have my ports forwarded correctly
#2437 [18:06] <Lutzee> >.> ports shouldnt need to be opened to connect to a server
#2438 [18:06] <Morrolan> Security software.
#2439 [18:06] <DrSigmaFruit> No I meant hosting
#2440 [18:06] <Morrolan> ISP messup.
#2441 [18:07] <Morrolan> DNS issues.
#2442 [18:07] <Morrolan> Hyperactive firewall.
#2443 [18:07] <Morrolan> Double NAT-ing.
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#2445 [18:07] <DrSigmaFruit> Are all of them likely?
#2446 [18:07] <Morrolan> Security software is the most likely culrpit.
#2447 [18:07] <MrTubs95> yo listen here dawg, if i get a new computer what are the main components that i need to get good ones of
#2448 [18:07] <Morrolan> (Including Windows Firewall, and Windows' network setttings)
#2449 [18:08] <DrSigmaFruit> I don't have security software and I let javaw, minecraft.exe, and minecraft_server.exe through
#2450 [18:08] <Morrolan> MrTubs95 - Recent graphics card, recent CPU, motherboard to support it, a few gigabytes of recent RAM, enough power, ....
#2451 [18:08] <MrTubs95> recent?
#2452 [18:08] <MrTubs95> decent?
#2453 [18:08] <Morrolan> Recent and decent.
#2454 [18:09] <Morrolan> Well, if you find a decent, non-recent one, that'd be fine too.
#2455 [18:09] <Morrolan> But they tend to get old fast. :)
#2456 [18:09] <MrTubs95> oh, how much would THOSE THINGS cost on average
#2457 [18:09] <Morrolan> A good gaming computer? $1000?
#2458 [18:10] <DrSigmaFruit> Turned off windows firewall completely, no luck
#2459 [18:10] <DrSigmaFruit> I changed my default dns to opendns
#2460 [18:11] <MrTubs95> ok, thanks
#2461 [18:11] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit: you are trying to host a server yes?
#2462 [18:11] <Morrolan> DrSigmaFruit - Some people seem to have issues to connect to their own server, while inside their own network.
#2463 [18:11] <DrSigmaFruit> Yes, own server
#2464 [18:11] <DrSigmaFruit> I can localhost connect to my own
#2465 [18:11] <Lutzee> Some routers do not like local loopback, eg connecting back into itself from outside
#2466 [18:11] <Morrolan> Did you ask a friend to try it already? (If not, there's a bot in here, !check serverip)
#2467 [18:12] <DrSigmaFruit> Yeah I did
#2468 [18:12] <DrSigmaFruit> Same problem
#2469 [18:12] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit: is it running atm?
#2470 [18:12] <DrSigmaFruit> Now it is
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#2472 [18:12] <DrSigmaFruit> I could host a server a few months ago no problem
#2473 [18:12] <DrSigmaFruit> Same router
#2474 [18:12] <Lutzee> !check 99.237.145.51
#2475 [18:13] <Lutzee> Your portforwarding is not working
#2476 [18:13] <DrSigmaFruit> 25565 UDP and TCP?
#2477 [18:13] <Morrolan> Does the server host's internal IP still match the one defined in the portforwarding rule?
#2478 [18:13] <Morrolan> TCP only.
#2479 [18:13] <Morrolan> Though forwarding UDP too won't do harm.
#2480 [18:14] <Morrolan> Actually, the server query protocol is UDP, so you can let that one open too, if you want to use that one.
#2481 [18:14] <DrSigmaFruit> Uhm
#2482 [18:14] <DrSigmaFruit> That's the one you get when you do
#2483 [18:14] <DrSigmaFruit> ipconfig right?
#2484 [18:14] <Morrolan> ipconfig will, under 'IPv4 address", show your internal IP, yes.
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#2486 [18:15] <Morrolan> If you've got several (virtual) network cards, then make sure to get the correct one.
#2487 [18:15] <DrSigmaFruit> Yeah only one
#2488 [18:15] <DrSigmaFruit> Let me check
#2489 [18:16] <Sy> How do you do dmno version
#2490 [18:16] <DrSigmaFruit> Yeah it matches
#2491 [18:16] <tyteen4a03> ??> Sy demo
#2492 [18:16] <VoxelHead> Sy: (demo) You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#2493 [18:16] <Sy> What
#2494 [18:17] <Sy> How
#2495 [18:17] <Morrolan> Did you read what VoxelHead said? :)
#2496 [18:17] <Sy> No
#2497 [18:17] <Sy> He he hah
#2498 [18:18] <Morrolan> ;)
#2499 [18:18] <DrSigmaFruit> Yeah it's weird
#2500 [18:19] <DrSigmaFruit> PFChecker says my port's open
#2501 [18:19] <DrSigmaFruit> But all the online ones say it's not
#2502 [18:19] <DrSigmaFruit> Everything says my Magicka port is closed too
#2503 [18:19] <DrSigmaFruit> But I can still host
#2504 [18:19] <Sy> O I want to play mine raft so bad
#2505 [18:19] <Sy> God
#2506 [18:19] <Morrolan> Well, then give the demo a shot.
#2507 [18:20] <Sy> It won't work
#2508 [18:21] <Morrolan> Got any specifics'
#2509 [18:21] <Sy> Wawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawaw no
#2510 [18:21] <Sy> How are you
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#2512 [18:22] <samuel> hello again, i'm trying to install a snapshot, I've replaced the mincraft.jar file to the downloaded file from mojang.com. then when I started minecraft, i pressed "force update" and then when i looked in the inventory the new stuffs wheren't there :( what did I do wrong?
#2513 [18:22] <Morrolan> If you want a one-way ticket out of this channel, Sy, just say so. :)
#2514 [18:22] <cestislife> You do not press force update samuel, you just run it :)
#2515 [18:22] <Morrolan> samuel - Don't press 'force update'.
#2516 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> By pressing Force update, you overwrote the snapshot, samuel.
#2517 [18:23] <Sy> Omg
#2518 [18:23] <Morrolan> Force update will always grab the latest 'stable' version, which, in turn, is going to overwrite your snapshot.
#2519 [18:23] <Sy> Sit up
#2520 [18:23] <samuel> oh..well thank you that was stupid of me to do x)
#2521 [18:23] <Sy> Omg
#2522 [18:23] <Morrolan> samuel - No worries. :)
#2523 [18:23] <Morrolan> Sy - Yeees?
#2524 [18:23] <DrSigmaFruit> Yeah I have no idea what to do
#2525 [18:23] <Sy> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
#2526 [18:23] <samuel> so to make it work, I will...?
#2527 [18:23] * Morrolan kicked Sy from #minecrafthelp (Reason: y :*cough*)
#2528 [18:24] <Lutzee> samuel: do everything you did before, but dont press forceupdate
#2529 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> samuel - Replace minecraft.jar, run minecraft without pressing force update
#2530 [18:24] <samuel> okey thank you guys for the help! :)
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#2533 [18:27] <DrSigmaFruit> What could be the problem?
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#2535 [18:28] <tyteen4a03> DrSigmaFruit, I think Morrolan is thinking of something
#2536 [18:29] <Morrolan> Actually I've been busy eating a cup of chocolate pudding.
#2537 [18:29] <Morrolan> Erm.
#2538 [18:29] <samuel> now, when I am on the main menu, scoulhd it still stay "1.4.7" or another number?
#2539 [18:29] <Morrolan> Might want to wait until GreyVulpine is available, he very much fancies fixing network issues. :)
#2540 [18:29] <Pds> Having problems connecting . can log in, but when log in, screen begine to load but then flashes a brief image then goes black completely. Nothing happens from that point. Have check firewall sttings etc . everything seems ok but still doesnt load properly. HAny suggestions?
#2541 [18:29] <Morrolan> samuel - Eh, depends on whether it was changed on that snapshot.
#2542 [18:30] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#2543 [18:30] <DrSigmaFruit> I'll wait for GreyVulpine then
#2544 [18:30] <samuel> um, what do you mean?
#2545 [18:31] <Pds> who mean?
#2546 [18:31] <samuel> morrolan..
#2547 [18:31] <Pds> ok sorry
#2548 [18:31] <Lutzee> Pds: can you get us a crash report please http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2549 [18:32] <cestislife> samuel, if you were trying to install the Snapshot, then it should display the current snapshot you're trying to install, eg, 13w02b
#2550 [18:32] <Pds> ok will do
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#2552 [18:33] <DrSigmaFruit> Will greyvulpine get the activity message?
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#2554 [18:34] <Morrolan> DrSigmaFruit - Given that we mentioned his nickname a few times, yea.
#2555 [18:34] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#2556 [18:34] <DrSigmaFruit> I'll hang around then
#2557 [18:34] <Morrolan> samuel - Of course it could be that the developer who worked on that snapshot simply didn't change the version number yet, but normally it should show something new indeed.
#2558 [18:34] <samuel> okey, I think I did everything right this time. I replaced the mincraft.jar file to the downloaded file then I ran minecraft and it was stil "1.4.7" and no new things was added to the inventory
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#2560 [18:35] <aceofspades2552> hello ive recently tried to update my minecraft and it wouldnt connect to minecraft.net so i deleted it all and redownloaded it it still wont connect then i followed the troubleshooting guide and still no connection... any ideas?
#2561 [18:35] <Morrolan> Where did you download that snapshot from, samuel?
#2562 [18:35] <Morrolan> aceofspades2552 - Did it work before?
#2563 [18:35] <aceofspades2552> yeah on offline it worked fine
#2564 [18:36] <Morrolan> Did you ever use a pirated client? (Needn't be worried, none's going to yell at you ;))
#2565 [18:37] <aceofspades2552> at one time i did then i just bought the game cuz it was a pos
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#2568 [18:37] <DrSigmaFruit> I pirated then but now I actually bought it, would that affect anything?
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#2570 [18:38] <aceofspades2552> morrolan - would there be a procedure to rewipe all the old files and start anew
#2571 [18:38] <Morrolan> ?? win/hosts
#2572 [18:38] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2573 [18:38] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
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#2575 [18:39] <Morrolan> Copy your hosts file on pastebin.com, and someone in here will be able to tell you whether there's any entries in there which might cause issues.
#2576 [18:39] <Morrolan> DrSigmaFruit - It might mess up the authentication process, but shouldn't lead to a 'can't reach server'. Though checking doesn't hurt.
#2577 [18:39] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#2578 [18:40] <Morrolan> Now, if you two will excuse me, I ought to go to bed. Worst case you'll have to wait ten minutes for someone else to help you further.
#2579 [18:40] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#2580 [18:40] <DrSigmaFruit> I'll wait for GreyVulpin
#2581 [18:40] <Lord_Ralex> just post it, and if someone can help they can ;)
#2582 [18:40] <aceofspades2552> 127.0.0.1 localhost you mean this?
#2583 [18:41] <DrSigmaFruit> http://pastebin.com/KdDJZamv
#2584 [18:41] <DrSigmaFruit> There's mine
#2585 [18:42] <Lord_Ralex> okay, that seems fine
#2586 [18:42] <Lord_Ralex> i missed the convo here, what was your issue .-.?
#2587 [18:42] <DrSigmaFruit> Friends can't connect to server
#2588 [18:42] <DrSigmaFruit> I port forwarded
#2589 [18:42] <Lord_Ralex> okay
#2590 [18:43] <DrSigmaFruit> Took off firewall
#2591 [18:43] <DrSigmaFruit> Nothing
#2592 [18:43] <Lord_Ralex> they are outside your network, correct?
#2593 [18:43] <DrSigmaFruit> Yes
#2594 [18:43] <Lord_Ralex> making sure
#2595 [18:44] <Pds> @ lutzee .. still working on it !
#2596 [18:44] <Lord_Ralex> what ip are they trying to use?
#2597 [18:44] <DrSigmaFruit> 99.237.145.51
#2598 [18:44] <DrSigmaFruit> It says it's not open
#2599 [18:44] <DrSigmaFruit> But it is
#2600 [18:44] <DrSigmaFruit> I can host other games
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#2602 [18:44] <DrSigmaFruit> Even though it always says port closed
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#2604 [18:45] <Lord_Ralex> so at this time, you have your firewall off?
#2605 [18:45] <DrSigmaFruit> Yea
#2606 [18:46] <Lord_Ralex> do you have any AV installed?
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#2608 [18:46] <DrSigmaFruit> No
#2609 [18:46] <Lord_Ralex> what is the network layout?
#2610 [18:46] <Lord_Ralex> in what devices does your computer connect to for internet
#2611 [18:46] <DrSigmaFruit> Router
#2612 [18:46] <DrSigmaFruit> Into a modem
#2613 [18:47] <aceofspades2552> sorry i was afk anyways how do i put my hosts on here through a pastebin
#2614 [18:47] <Lord_Ralex> aceofspades2552, are you just needing to delete your files?
#2615 [18:47] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, do you know if your modem has a firewall
#2616 [18:47] <DrSigmaFruit> I doubt it
#2617 [18:47] <DrSigmaFruit> Well
#2618 [18:47] <DrSigmaFruit> Maybe actually
#2619 [18:47] <DrSigmaFruit> IT's a fairly new modem
#2620 [18:48] <aceofspades2552> i already tried deleting them from appdata but if u think i should retry it im game i can play period as of the current situation
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#2622 [18:48] <Lutzee> ??> aceofspades2552 pastebin
#2623 [18:48] <VoxelHead> aceofspades2552: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2624 [18:49] <DrSigmaFruit> Yea
#2625 [18:49] <Lord_Ralex> does it?
#2626 [18:49] <DrSigmaFruit> Just tried disabling modem firewall
#2627 [18:49] <DrSigmaFruit> Nothing
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#2629 [18:49] <Lord_Ralex> what model is it?
#2630 [18:50] <DrSigmaFruit> http://www.hitrontech.com/en/cable_detail.php?id=10
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#2632 [18:50] <aceofspades2552> ok heres my host http://pastebin.com/NrQBgny7
#2633 [18:50] <Lord_Ralex> that is the modem?
#2634 [18:50] <DrSigmaFruit> Yes
#2635 [18:50] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, you need to probably port forward that too
#2636 [18:50] <DrSigmaFruit> I did
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#2638 [18:51] <Lord_Ralex> so you have 2 port-forwards?
#2639 [18:51] <DrSigmaFruit> Yeah
#2640 [18:51] <Lord_Ralex> modem points to router, router to computer?
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#2642 [18:51] <DrSigmaFruit> One in the router settings
#2643 [18:51] <DrSigmaFruit> One in the moden settings
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#2645 [18:51] <Lord_Ralex> can you screenshot those?
#2646 [18:51] <DrSigmaFruit> I'll screen shot
#2647 [18:51] <Lord_Ralex> heh
#2648 [18:52] <superminercaft5> how to fix my game only get a black screen after loggin on
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#2650 [18:53] <aceofspades2552> so should i try deleting it again or ? any ideas
#2651 [18:53] <DrSigmaFruit> Lord_Ralex: http://imgur.com/a/ISdK5
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#2654 [18:54] <Lord_Ralex> mind screenshotting "ipconfig" from the cmd?
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#2657 [18:56] <DrSigmaFruit> Lord_Ralex: http://i.imgur.com/BXZA4.png
#2658 [18:57] <Lord_Ralex> do you happen to have a second computer on the network that can play MC?
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#2660 [18:57] <DrSigmaFruit> Yes
#2661 [18:57] <Lord_Ralex> can you try to connect to the server using your internal IP
#2662 [18:57] <aceofspades2552> so if a pirated client is why my minecraft wont work should i delete my java and try redownloading it
#2663 [18:57] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#2664 [18:57] <DrSigmaFruit> On the other computer?
#2665 [18:57] <Lord_Ralex> yes
#2666 [18:57] <DrSigmaFruit> k
#2667 [19:00] <aceofspades2552> well the java redownload solved my problem thank you all have great night although u didnt do much
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#2669 [19:01] <DrSigmaFruit> So
#2670 [19:01] <DrSigmaFruit> Connect with ip
#2671 [19:01] <DrSigmaFruit> 192.168.0.101?
#2672 [19:01] <Lord_Ralex> yes
#2673 [19:01] <DrSigmaFruit> Doesn't work
#2674 [19:01] <Lord_Ralex> wait
#2675 [19:01] <Lord_Ralex> 192.168.1.101
#2676 [19:01] <DrSigmaFruit> oH
#2677 [19:01] * LaxWasThere is now known as LaxWasHere
#2678 [19:02] <DrSigmaFruit> Nothing
#2679 [19:02] <Lord_Ralex> it did not work?
#2680 [19:03] <DrSigmaFruit> Can't join
#2681 [19:03] <Lord_Ralex> this computer is connected to the router or the modem?
#2682 [19:03] <DrSigmaFruit> Same error
#2683 [19:03] <DrSigmaFruit> Router
#2684 [19:03] <cestislife> It needs the port too, maybe.
#2685 [19:03] <Lord_Ralex> cestislife, nope
#2686 [19:03] <Lord_Ralex> standard port
#2687 [19:03] <cestislife> Oh?
#2688 [19:03] <Lord_Ralex> try 192.168.1.1
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#2690 [19:04] <Lord_Ralex> (if that first one did not work, then the computer has a firewall blocking it somewhere)
#2691 [19:04] <Lord_Ralex> (but to be sure)
#2692 [19:04] <DrSigmaFruit> Connection Refused
#2693 [19:04] <Lord_Ralex> your computer has a firewall up somehwere
#2694 [19:04] <DrSigmaFruit> The main one or the
#2695 [19:05] <DrSigmaFruit> Other one
#2696 [19:05] <Lord_Ralex> the computer running the server
#2697 [19:05] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#2698 [19:05] <DrSigmaFruit> I re-enabled all the firewalls
#2699 [19:05] <DrSigmaFruit> That might be it
#2700 [19:05] <DrSigmaFruit> I'll turn them all off again
#2701 [19:05] <DrSigmaFruit> And try it
#2702 [19:06] * JTR|Away is now known as JTR
#2703 [19:07] <DrSigmaFruit> Disabled modem, router, and windows firewall
#2704 [19:07] <DrSigmaFruit> Still refused connection
#2705 [19:08] <Lord_Ralex> right now we will focus on your computer
#2706 [19:08] <Lord_Ralex> that is not allowing the connection currently
#2707 [19:08] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#2708 [19:09] <DrSigmaFruit> I turned off windows firewahll
#2709 [19:09] <Lord_Ralex> is the network considered a home network
#2710 [19:09] <DrSigmaFruit> Yeah
#2711 [19:10] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, not following the conv but double NAT?
#2712 [19:10] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, double nat, yeah
#2713 [19:10] <Lord_Ralex> but issue is the computer currently
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#2715 [19:10] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, the joy of complicated computer networks
#2716 [19:10] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, could be worse ;)
#2717 [19:10] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, can you screenshot the firewall screen?
#2718 [19:10] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, I've seen triple NAT so I'm fine :P
#2719 [19:10] <DrSigmaFruit> Windows firewall?
#2720 [19:11] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, yeah
#2721 [19:12] <DrSigmaFruit> http://i.imgur.com/YQyHE.png
#2722 [19:12] <Lord_Ralex> yeah, it looks like windows is blocking it
#2723 [19:12] <Lord_Ralex> or si think
#2724 [19:13] <DrSigmaFruit> How do you unblock?
#2725 [19:13] <DrSigmaFruit> Add a rule?
#2726 [19:13] <Lord_Ralex> add a rule is a way
#2727 [19:13] <Lord_Ralex> look under advanced settings
#2728 [19:13] <DrSigmaFruit> I already added javaw, minecraft.exe, and minecraft_server.exe
#2729 [19:14] <tyteen4a03> ??>> Lord_Ralex
#2730 [19:14] <tyteen4a03> ??>> Lord_Ralex porttest
#2731 [19:14] <Lord_Ralex> so it is listed under this: ? Control Panel\System and Security\Windows Firewall\Allowed Programs
#2732 [19:14] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, >_>
#2733 [19:14] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, here are some useful tools to determine what is the culprit of problems, the computer or the router
#2734 [19:14] <tyteen4a03> ??>> Lord_Ralex porttest
#2735 [19:14] <tyteen4a03> uh
#2736 [19:14] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#2737 [19:14] <Lord_Ralex> yeah
#2738 [19:14] <Lord_Ralex> that is riht
#2739 [19:15] <Lord_Ralex> it pms me
#2740 [19:15] <DrSigmaFruit> Yeah they're all allowed
#2741 [19:15] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, VoxelHead's message went somewhere else, so yeah
#2742 [19:15] <Lord_Ralex> as tyteen4a03 is saying (after the nice spam .-.)
#2743 [19:15] <Lord_Ralex> ?? porttest
#2744 [19:15] <VoxelHead> porttest: Port tests softwares can be used to determine whether security softwares are blocking the use of certain ports. A helper will assist you in using the software.
#2745 [19:15] <VoxelHead> porttest: Port listerner: http://is.gd/mc_portlisten Port tester: http://is.gd/mc_porttest
#2746 [19:16] <tyteen4a03> for a server, only the former is needed
#2747 [19:16] <tyteen4a03> it's basically McAfee attacker
#2748 [19:16] <tyteen4a03> I can't stay to help though, I need to go soon
#2749 [19:16] <Lord_Ralex> i never used that program
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#2751 [19:17] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, put 25565 in TCP under the Ports button, then start (it will jump to tray icons)
#2752 [19:17] * mau4D2 is now known as mau5ie
#2753 [19:17] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, then !check, see if it reaches the computer
#2754 [19:17] <Lord_Ralex> why are you telling me .-.
#2755 [19:17] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, uh
#2756 [19:17] <tyteen4a03> I have no idea actually
#2757 [19:17] <Lord_Ralex> that, and i could not check anyways for me
#2758 [19:17] <tyteen4a03> I think I need to /away a little
#2759 [19:18] <Lord_Ralex> college network runs their own firewall
#2760 [19:18] <Joe_> Does the skin creator app work with minecraft pocket edition?
#2761 [19:18] <Lutzee> You cannot change your skin in the pocket edition app
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#2763 [19:20] <Joe_> Thanks.....is there a different addition that works on the ipad2
#2764 [19:21] <DASS> I have the brand new version of OSX and have downloaded Java 10.7.3 numerous times, when I go to play game it block it and brings up the Java window again to download???
#2765 [19:21] <DrSigmaFruit> What do you need to allow through fire wall?
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#2767 [19:22] <DASS> So is my firewall blocking it?
#2768 [19:24] <Lord_Ralex> i have to go eat .-.
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#2771 [19:25] <DASS> How do I remove firewall in MAC?
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#2773 [19:25] <tyteen4a03> DASS, how does Mac "block" minecraft?
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#2775 [19:26] <DASS> Keeps wanting me to continue downloading Java and it's installed, lasest version!!
#2776 [19:27] <tyteen4a03> DASS, which version of OSX are you on?
#2777 [19:27] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, you know OSX?
#2778 [19:27] <Lutzee> Nopr
#2779 [19:27] <Lutzee> Nope*
#2780 [19:27] <DASS> Mountain Lion, brand new...
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#2783 [19:27] <Lutzee> wait, you want to install java 7?
#2784 [19:28] <tyteen4a03> DASS, does it also mention that you should throw Minecraft into the trash?
#2785 [19:28] <DASS> No trash, 7 installed already!
#2786 [19:28] <Lutzee> yeah installing java7 on a mac can often cause problems, its bessed to stick with java 6 that comes preinstalled
#2787 [19:29] <Valerie> DASS, do you have a router?
#2788 [19:29] <Valerie> because if so, you should port-forward it as well
#2789 [19:29] <Lutzee> Valerie: no
#2790 [19:29] <TyP> Screen keeps saying that the system cannot find the path specified?
#2791 [19:29] <DASS> Yes, when I go to play game it says "blocks plug-in" and takes me back to Java!
#2792 [19:29] * Lutzee glares at anyone suggesting portforwarding for anything but allowing incomming connections
#2792 [19:29] <tyteen4a03> DASS, use the standalone launcher
#2793 [19:30] <DrSigmaFruit> Bleh
#2794 [19:30] <DrSigmaFruit> So lost
#2795 [19:30] <tyteen4a03> TyP, are you launching through the command prompt?
#2796 [19:30] <DASS> I'll try it.
#2797 [19:30] <tyteen4a03> DrSigmaFruit, can't help you unfortunately, Gone_Ralex is gone and I didn't follow your case
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#2799 [19:30] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#2800 [19:30] <UrbanLetsPlay> hey
#2801 [19:30] <DrSigmaFruit> Np
#2802 [19:30] <Gone_Ralex> tyteen4a03, computer is blocking connection
#2803 [19:30] <TyP> ive launched through my browser and my my shortcut
#2804 [19:30] <tyteen4a03> Gone_Ralex, I am not supposed to be staying here
#2805 [19:31] <tyteen4a03> TyP, your shortcut?\
#2806 [19:31] <tyteen4a03> Do you mean Minecraft.exe?
#2807 [19:31] <TyP> yeah yeah that thing
#2808 [19:31] <UrbanLetsPlay> anyone know forge mods for my server to auto restart it and a mod to add something like factions?
#2809 [19:31] <tyteen4a03> UrbanLetsPlay, you're looking for #minecraftforge
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#2811 [19:31] <UrbanLetsPlay> thank you!
#2812 [19:31] <tyteen4a03> TyP, normally that shouldn't appear
#2813 [19:31] <tyteen4a03> ??> TyP win/path
#2814 [19:32] <VoxelHead> TyP: (win/path) You probably need to add Java's binaries to your system's path.
#2815 [19:32] <VoxelHead> TyP: (win/path) A more detailed walkthrough of this is forthcoming.
#2816 [19:32] <tyteen4a03> fff
#2817 [19:32] <tyteen4a03> TyP, are you on Windows 7>
#2818 [19:32] <tyteen4a03> ?
#2819 [19:32] <TyP> yeah, windows 7
#2820 [19:32] <TyP> yeah, windows 7
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#2822 [19:32] <Valerie> I wish i could test for you, but I recently wiped Java from my system following the discovery of an exploit found in the latest version of Java
#2823 [19:33] <Valerie> a pretty dangerous one at that
#2824 [19:33] <Lutzee> Valerie: that only affects web apps running java
#2825 [19:33] <tyteen4a03> 7
#2826 [19:33] <tyteen4a03> TyP, right click on Computer, Properties, Advanced System Properties, Environment Variables
#2827 [19:33] <Valerie> Can't be too careful
#2828 [19:33] <tyteen4a03> Valerie, 6 is fine
#2829 [19:33] <tyteen4a03> Valerie, since you're here, which part of Hong Kong are you located in?
#2830 [19:33] <Valerie> Kowloon
#2831 [19:34] <tyteen4a03> same
#2832 [19:34] <tyteen4a03> TyP, double click on a variable called "Path" and paste the content of it here
#2833 [19:34] <Valerie> Why do you want to know?
#2834 [19:34] <tyteen4a03> Valerie, just wondering
#2835 [19:34] <tyteen4a03> Valerie, I don't come across Hong Kong people here often
#2836 [19:34] <tyteen4a03> so far it's NodinChan and you
#2837 [19:34] <Valerie> Ahh
#2838 [19:35] <tyteen4a03> I think I am finally too tired to even go for breakfast. probably going to hit the hay
#2839 [19:35] <TyP> C:\Program Files\Intel\WiFi\bin\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intel\WirelessCommon\
#2840 [19:35] <tyteen4a03> TyP, only these?
#2841 [19:35] <TyP> thats it
#2842 [19:36] <tyteen4a03> TyP, make sure you're copying the System Variable one, not the user one
#2843 [19:36] <DASS> Thanks, DASS.
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#2845 [19:36] <tyteen4a03> thanking himself...?
#2846 [19:37] <Lutzee> Signiture i think
#2847 [19:38] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, it sounds weird in IRC :p\
#2848 [19:38] <Lutzee> I know :PO
#2849 [19:38] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, I really have to let this place go, so can you take over TyP (java path missing) and helpneeded
#2850 [19:38] <Lutzee> I guess
#2851 [19:38] <tyteen4a03> (hell, I should have 90 minutes ago)
#2852 [19:38] <tyteen4a03> thanks
#2853 [19:39] <helpneeded> can not login to minecraft. I bought it on their website thursday. Followed the create profile link. dl'd the client and can not login. tried email-password and profile-password still can't get in.
#2854 [19:39] <DrSigmaFruit> I'm waiting for Relax to hopefully come back and think of a solution
#2855 [19:39] <Lutzee> helpneeded: have you created a username yet?
#2856 [19:39] <tyteen4a03> DrSigmaFruit, he went for food
#2857 [19:39] <DrSigmaFruit> I know
#2858 [19:39] <DrSigmaFruit> I meant when he gets back
#2859 [19:39] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: GO!
#2860 [19:39] <helpneeded> yes. tried login with it. have reset password a few times.
#2861 [19:40] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, yes sir
#2862 [19:40] <Lutzee> helpneeded: what antivirus do you have installed?
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#2864 [19:40] <helpneeded> avg
#2865 [19:40] <tyteen4a03> TyP_, before I go, Lutzee will continue assisting you
#2866 [19:41] <Lutzee> helpneeded: open the AVG control panel, and disable the link scanner module
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#2868 [19:42] <helpneeded> done. retry login now?
#2869 [19:42] <Lutzee> Yes
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#2871 [19:42] <helpneeded> Login Failed in red
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#2873 [19:42] <Lutzee> Okay hmm
#2874 [19:43] <Lutzee> Oh login failed..
#2875 [19:43] <Lutzee> You email/password is incorrect
#2876 [19:43] <Lutzee> Your*
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#2878 [19:44] <helpneeded> I've reset it a few times. last was about 10mins ago. using the password I entered then
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#2881 [19:44] <skeletonrootbeer> Hello
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#2883 [19:44] <Lutzee> hello
#2884 [19:45] <Guest64295> hello
#2885 [19:45] <skeletonrootbeer> I was hoping someone could help me. I am trying to install minecraft and it keeps on hanging up
#2886 [19:45] <Lutzee> helpneeded: Well one or the other is incorrect, retype everything
#2887 [19:45] <Lutzee> skeletonrootbeer: at what point are you having problems?
#2888 [19:46] <Guest64295> is it possible to recover my account with the order number from which i ordered minecraft with?
#2889 [19:46] <skeletonrootbeer> Well when I run the downloaded exe it asks me if I want to update and I say yes. It gets to either 91 or 92% then freezes
#2890 [19:46] <helpneeded> retyped all, still same error.
#2891 [19:46] <[z]> Try saying no?
#2892 [19:46] <skeletonrootbeer> Or when I say no to the update it says it's done loading and just sits
#2893 [19:46] <Lutzee> Guest64295: You should have recieved an email With a transaction ID in it, that is your proof of purchase
#2894 [19:46] <Lutzee> skeletonrootbeer: trying to play the demo?
#2895 [19:47] <skeletonrootbeer> No I purchased the game
#2896 [19:47] <Lutzee> skeletonrootbeer: what antivirus do you have?
#2897 [19:47] <skeletonrootbeer> avg. I disabled the parts that it said to in troubleshooting and tried agian
#2898 [19:47] <skeletonrootbeer> again rather. But no luck
#2899 [19:48] <skeletonrootbeer> I've restarted.
#2900 [19:48] <skeletonrootbeer> Re downloaded the file
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#2902 [19:48] <MinecraftFan1000> Hi My minecraft wont log in
#2903 [19:48] <Guest64295> is it possible to recover my account with the order number from which i ordered minecraft with?
#2904 [19:48] <Lutzee> !login
#2905 [19:49] <MinecraftFan1000> When I start it it shows A black screen
#2906 [19:49] <Lutzee> Guest64295: if that order number is labed transaction ID yes
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#2908 [19:49] <TyP> Lutzee, do you know my issue
#2909 [19:49] <Guest64295> and what if its not?
#2910 [19:49] <helpneeded> tried again, typed all over, still get red login failed
#2911 [19:49] <Lutzee> MinecraftFan1000: can you get us a crash repoort please www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2912 [19:50] <skeletonrootbeer> So no thoughts anyone? :(
#2913 [19:50] <Lutzee> Guest64295: you need to find the email with it listed as transaction ID
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#2916 [19:50] <Lutzee> skeletonrootbeer: something is blocking the download
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#2918 [19:51] <Guest64295> so there's no way i can access the account if i don't have the email? i know the username.
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#2922 [19:53] <Nick> nick
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#2924 [19:54] <nick> is there a way for me to login to my minecraft account using the order number?
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#2929 [19:55] <oli> demo version does not play on air book mac
#2930 [19:55] <oli> any suggestions?
#2931 [19:55] <Nicky> Can i log in to my account by somehow using the order number?
#2932 [19:56] <Nicky> hello?
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#2935 [19:57] <oli> i downloaded java7 latest version and demo version still does not open
#2936 [19:58] <mid_kid> which demo?
#2937 [19:58] <oli> demo version of minecraft
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#2941 [19:58] <mid_kid> web version or client?
#2942 [19:58] <oli> web version
#2943 [19:59] <kat> I want my money back from minecraft, it won't work
#2944 [19:59] <mid_kid> oli: what browser?
#2945 [19:59] <Nicky> is there any other support that is more helpful?
#2946 [19:59] <oli> safari on macbook air
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#2948 [20:00] <kat> Error keeps coming up bad video driver and I have updated the drivers, Windows
#2949 [20:00] <Gone_Ralex> ??> kat dxdiag
#2950 [20:00] <mid_kid> oli: did it give you any errors?
#2951 [20:00] <Gone_Ralex> ??> kat win/dxdiag
#2952 [20:00] <VoxelHead> kat: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2953 [20:00] <VoxelHead> kat: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2954 [20:01] * Gone_Ralex is now known as Lord_Ralex
#2955 [20:01] <oli> no errors at all, we see for a second the launcher starts and then just a black screen
#2956 [20:01] <mid_kid> oli: hmmm... (is mac having the black screen error too?). could you try the client?
#2957 [20:02] <oli> whats the client?
#2958 [20:02] <mid_kid> download minecraft
#2959 [20:02] <oli> link?
#2960 [20:02] <mid_kid> from here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#2961 [20:03] <mid_kid> the jar is more helpful on a mac
#2962 [20:03] <Lutzee> The demo does not work with the stand alone client
#2963 [20:03] <mid_kid> Lutzee: when you log in, it shows a button: play demo
#2964 [20:03] <tyteen4a03> mid_kid, which does not work
#2965 [20:03] <Lutzee> mid_kid: then it fails to download the files.
#2966 [20:04] <helpneeded> now too many failed attempts. getting to point of refund...
#2967 [20:04] <tyteen4a03> (I'm back, today's plan is cancelled)
#2968 [20:04] <tyteen4a03> helpneeded, if you have entered your username/password wrong too many times, it will show that message
#2969 [20:04] <mid_kid> Lutzee: if you played the web version before, you should have the files
#2970 [20:04] <tyteen4a03> just wait for an hour ot two before trying again
#2971 [20:05] <tyteen4a03> mid_kid, I forgot how demo works but it looks like people still had troubles downloading files after playing web demo at least once
#2972 [20:05] <tyteen4a03> my brain might be making stuff up but you get the idea
#2973 [20:05] <helpneeded> been down this road over and over since thursday... have reset password more times than i can remember. still haven't been able to login to game once.
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#2975 [20:06] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, what do you know about helpneeded?
#2976 [20:06] <oli> i only could log in into the offline version (is it because i have no account?) but now it says mine craft has crashed
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#2978 [20:06] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: login failed error
#2979 [20:06] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, win/! or java/1.7/ipv6?
#2980 [20:07] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: that shouldnt surface for login failed
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#2982 [20:07] <mid_kid> oli: okay, that could mean that your minecraft files are corrupted... cuz it showed the "play offline" button
#2983 [20:08] <mid_kid> oli: any error messages?
#2984 [20:08] <tyteen4a03> oli, are you using Safari to access the demo?
#2985 [20:08] <mid_kid> tyteen4a03: yes
#2986 [20:08] <oli> i tried to log in with my mojang account, is it the same for mine craft or do i have to create first an account?
#2987 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> 3 reasons why login failed pops up. Email hasn't been verified from registration. Minecraft profile hasn't been created with username, and email/password combination is incorrect
#2988 [20:09] <oli> greyvulpine: so far i only have a mojang account
#2989 [20:09] <mid_kid> GreyVulpine: obviously, he created an account
#2990 [20:09] <oli> it never asked for a profile
#2991 [20:09] <oli> (not sure)
#2992 [20:09] <mid_kid> otherwise he would'nt acces the demo
#2993 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2994 [20:09] <kat> I did it but now i can't get out of this page wth
#2995 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> There's a difference between a Mojang account, and a minecraft profile
#2996 [20:10] <tyteen4a03> ??> kat mojang/email
#2997 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> You can play the minecraft demo with a Mojang account. When you purchase minecraft, you will then be able to create a minecraft profile.
#2998 [20:10] <VoxelHead> kat: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2999 [20:10] <tyteen4a03> kat, if you want to get a refund email mojang with the above email
#3000 [20:10] <mid_kid> GreyVulpine: you need to log in into minecraft.net before playing the demo, then he should have been asked
#3001 [20:10] <mid_kid> oh
#3002 [20:10] <DrSigmaFruit> GreyVulpine: Can you help me with my server issue?
#3003 [20:10] <oli> i logged in with my mojang account and could see the demo version button
#3004 [20:11] <tyteen4a03> DrSigmaFruit, is Lord_Ralex still gone?
#3005 [20:11] * cestislife is now known as cestislife|afk
#3006 [20:11] <DrSigmaFruit> Looks like it
#3007 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> DrSigmaFruit - Could you describe the issue? I wasn't there from the beginning of your issue
#3008 [20:11] <kat> iI want it to work for my son
#3009 [20:11] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#3010 [20:11] <Lord_Ralex> ?
#3011 [20:11] <oli> same her kat
#3012 [20:12] <mid_kid> oli: when starting the web version: do you get the "Downloading Files" screen?
#3013 [20:12] <DrSigmaFruit> I'm trying to host a server
#3014 [20:12] <DrSigmaFruit> Port forward works
#3015 [20:12] <Lord_Ralex> (don't assume that, we never tested it)
#3016 [20:12] <tyteen4a03> kat, can you describe how exactly it doesn't work again?
#3017 [20:12] <oli> no screen...when i click the demo version, a pop up asks to a crept the mine craft launcher to start and i said ok to run
#3018 [20:12] <DrSigmaFruit> I'm pretty sure it works
#3019 [20:12] <DrSigmaFruit> Cause every other game port forwarded the same way I can host
#3020 [20:13] <tyteen4a03> oli, you're playing through minecraft.net/demo, right?
#3021 [20:13] <oli> accept* not crept sorry
#3022 [20:13] <Lord_Ralex> atm your computer is preventing the connection, to which we have yet to determine why
#3023 [20:13] <DrSigmaFruit> Yeah
#3024 [20:13] <oli> yes mine craft.net demo
#3025 [20:13] <DrSigmaFruit> I've turned windows firewall completely off
#3026 [20:13] <kat> he logs in then, black screen then bad video card driver.
#3027 [20:13] <tyteen4a03> kat, Windows I presume?
#3028 [20:13] <kat> yes
#3029 [20:13] <tyteen4a03> oli, what version of OSX are you on?
#3030 [20:13] <tyteen4a03> ??> kat win/dxdiag/bat
#3031 [20:13] <VoxelHead> kat: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#3032 [20:13] <VoxelHead> kat: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#3033 [20:13] <tyteen4a03> kat, please follow the directions by VoxelHead
#3034 [20:14] <oli> os x 10.7.5
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#3036 [20:14] <tyteen4a03> oli, hang on
#3037 [20:14] <FearSome20> ok
#3038 [20:15] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, allow "java.exe" as well
#3039 [20:15] <tyteen4a03> oli, does Safari say "Missing Plugin"?
#3040 [20:15] <tyteen4a03> or just nothing at all
#3041 [20:15] <mid_kid> oli: hopefully tyteen4a03 can help you. i have no mac so i can't say many things
#3042 [20:15] <tyteen4a03> mid_kid, I don't either
#3043 [20:15] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay I'll try
#3044 [20:16] <oli> thx mid_kid
#3045 [20:16] <tyteen4a03> I just google
#3046 [20:16] <mid_kid> tyteen4a03: it asks him to start minecraft
#3047 [20:16] <tyteen4a03> mid_kid, I have no idea why Safari will ask him to do that
#3048 [20:16] <mid_kid> i mean to accept the permission blah blah blah
#3049 [20:16] <tyteen4a03> mid_kid, oh yes that
#3050 [20:16] <mid_kid> java asks
#3051 [20:16] <oli> safari does not give any error message. when i start the demo i am asked to accept the launcher, i see for a second the download bar in green and then just black screen
#3052 [20:17] <tyteen4a03> oli, can you try upgrading your graphics driver and java through Apple Updates?
#3053 [20:17] <DrSigmaFruit> C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin
#3054 [20:17] <DrSigmaFruit> The one in there?
#3055 [20:17] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, yeah
#3056 [20:17] <oli> i do that through systems?
#3057 [20:17] <tyteen4a03> oli, yes
#3058 [20:18] <DrSigmaFruit> Still can't reach server
#3059 [20:18] <tyteen4a03> oli, if you need detailed instructions: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1338
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#3061 [20:18] <innoying> So I'm running a snapshot server. 13w02b. And I want to write a script that runs on top of minecraftserver.jar and watched for unknown commands and does other stuff. But it doesn't log unknown commands by players. Anyway I can make that happen? Or anyway to make mcl decrypt the new snapshot without failing?
#3062 [20:18] <innoying> *mcp
#3063 [20:18] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, one sec, messing with my firewall to see what settings there can be
#3064 [20:18] <mid_kid> it would be awesome if the web version had an error log
#3065 [20:18] <tyteen4a03> innoying, we don't support mods nor snapshots
#3066 [20:18] <Lord_Ralex> it does mid_kid
#3067 [20:19] <innoying> alright
#3068 [20:19] <kat> i hit windows button plus R and it can't find the file
#3069 [20:19] <FearSome20> i just bought this game, and now everytime I try to open up minecraft and play, the screen just goes black an crashes
#3070 [20:19] <tyteen4a03> kat, are you saying the system can't find dxdiag.exe?
#3071 [20:19] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, has it worked before?
#3072 [20:19] <kat> yes
#3073 [20:19] <tyteen4a03> kat: is your system very old?
#3074 [20:20] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, what version of windows do you have
#3075 [20:20] <kat> 3 years
#3076 [20:20] <FearSome20> no, I JUST got the game, ive played the demo and it worked then but now it doesnt
#3077 [20:20] <tyteen4a03> ??> kat win/nodxdiag
#3078 [20:20] <VoxelHead> kat: (win/nodxdiag) In rare cases where dxdiag won't work, you can try using msinfo32 instead. Press the Win+R keys, and type "msinfo32.exe" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. Once it has finished loading, click "File -> Export" button, name it to info.txt (or any other file name) and save it to your desktop.
#3079 [20:20] <VoxelHead> kat: (win/nodxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3080 [20:20] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, Windows I presume?
#3081 [20:20] <tyteen4a03> kat, oh wait
#3082 [20:20] <FearSome20> yes
#3083 [20:20] <tyteen4a03> ??> kat win/dxdiag
#3084 [20:20] <VoxelHead> kat: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3085 [20:20] <VoxelHead> kat: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3086 [20:20] <tyteen4a03> kat, try this set of instructions first
#3087 [20:20] <tyteen4a03> ??> FearSome20 win/dxdiag/bat
#3088 [20:21] <VoxelHead> FearSome20: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#3089 [20:21] <VoxelHead> FearSome20: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#3090 [20:21] <mid_kid> Lord_Ralex: not a java error log as far as i know
#3091 [20:21] <Lord_Ralex> mid_kid, you can see the console though
#3092 [20:22] * oli [oli@notlogged] has quit. (Quit: Web client closed)
#3093 [20:22] <mid_kid> Lord_Ralex: how?
#3094 [20:22] <kat> slow down i only took msdos in the 90's
#3095 [20:22] <Lord_Ralex> what os you talking mid_kid ?
#3096 [20:22] <tyteen4a03> kat, take your time :)
#3097 [20:22] <kat> u want me to do fearsom first
#3098 [20:23] <tyteen4a03> ??> kat win/dxdiag
#3099 [20:23] <VoxelHead> kat: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3100 [20:23] <mid_kid> Lord_Ralex: linux, browser: chrome
#3101 [20:23] <VoxelHead> kat: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3102 [20:23] <DrSigmaFruit> Lord_Ralex I have 7
#3103 [20:23] <tyteen4a03> kat, this set
#3104 [20:23] <Lord_Ralex> mid_kid, which linux distro
#3105 [20:23] <mid_kid> Lord_Ralex: ubuntu
#3106 [20:23] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, k, let me look around with my firewall settings to see if i can find something
#3107 [20:23] <mid_kid> 12.10
#3108 [20:23] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#3109 [20:23] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
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#3111 [20:23] <Lord_Ralex> mid_kid, you will want to open the java control panel from ubuntu
#3112 [20:24] <Lord_Ralex> not sure how yet, not used ubuntu in a while
#3113 [20:24] <Lutzee> minecraft wont start on ubnuntu? eg black screens?
#3114 [20:24] <kat> I'll be back shortly
#3115 [20:24] <mid_kid> Lord_Ralex: as i installed java manually i made a launcher for the control panel :P
#3116 [20:24] <tyteen4a03> kat, alright
#3117 [20:25] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, open the "windows firewall with advanced security"
#3118 [20:25] <mid_kid> Lutzee: no, not that
#3119 [20:25] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#3120 [20:25] <mid_kid> i already fixed that
#3121 [20:25] <FearSome20> http://pastebin.com/Zt3ngp5n is that what you needed me to do?
#3122 [20:25] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, yes, hang on
#3123 [20:25] <DrSigmaFruit> The one with the rules?
#3124 [20:26] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, it has that in there
#3125 [20:26] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, are you launching Minecraft with the standalone launcher?
#3126 [20:26] <FearSome20> Im not quite sure, what does it look like..?
#3127 [20:26] <Lord_Ralex> was interested in seeing if the 3 parts were off (domain profile, private profile, public profile)
#3128 [20:26] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, Minecraft.exe
#3129 [20:26] <FearSome20> yes
#3130 [20:27] <DrSigmaFruit> Yeah I'm at that window
#3131 [20:27] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, that is the one having problems right?
#3132 [20:27] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, do all of those say "off"?
#3133 [20:27] <mid_kid> Lord_Ralex: oh, ok i see it. didn't even know it was there
#3134 [20:27] <DrSigmaFruit> Every single one?
#3135 [20:27] <FearSome20> yes. I would log in then it would bring me to the mojane screen and then it would go black, then crash
#3136 [20:28] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, the domain, private, and public
#3137 [20:28] <tyteen4a03> ??> FearSome20 forceupdate
#3138 [20:28] <VoxelHead> FearSome20: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3139 [20:28] <VoxelHead> FearSome20: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#3140 [20:28] <DrSigmaFruit> For which one
#3141 [20:28] <Lord_Ralex> does it say they are off
#3142 [20:28] <Lord_Ralex> or on?
#3143 [20:28] <DrSigmaFruit> Oh
#3144 [20:28] <DrSigmaFruit> Uh
#3145 [20:28] <DrSigmaFruit> Domain is on
#3146 [20:28] <DrSigmaFruit> Private is off
#3147 [20:28] <DrSigmaFruit> Public is on
#3148 [20:29] <FearSome20> i did the force update and it still crashed
#3149 [20:29] <mid_kid> FearSome20: can you send an error log?
#3150 [20:29] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, do you know how to take a screenshot?
#3151 [20:30] <tyteen4a03> mid_kid, there isn't
#3152 [20:30] <FearSome20> yes i know how to take a screen shot
#3153 [20:30] <mid_kid> tyteen4a03: if he starts the launcher from the cmd
#3154 [20:30] <tyteen4a03> mid_kid, he didn't
#3155 [20:30] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, can you take a screenshot of how your launcher looks like, and upload it to imgur.com?
#3156 [20:30] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, iirc Resource Monitor will report if a program is allowed though the firewall
#3157 [20:31] <Lord_Ralex> under Network, then Listening Ports
#3158 [20:31] <FearSome20> yes i can, one second
#3159 [20:31] <DrSigmaFruit> Where's network?
#3160 [20:31] <Lord_Ralex> top of the thing
#3161 [20:31] <mid_kid> tyteen4a03: i don't think we get as many info with the screenshot as we would with an error. it is not that difficult to teach him how to start from cmd
#3162 [20:31] <Lord_Ralex> where "overview" is
#3163 [20:32] <tyteen4a03> mid_kid, there's a trick inside it
#3164 [20:32] <DrSigmaFruit> What's it next to?
#3165 [20:32] <tyteen4a03> mid_kid, if the launcher's release notes is messed up, it's java/1.7/ipv6, if there are no dirt under the login field then it's win/!
#3166 [20:32] <Lord_Ralex> "disk"
#3167 [20:33] <tyteen4a03> mid_kid, (if you have a ! in your Windows username Java fails to connect to any network)
#3168 [20:33] <DrSigmaFruit> In the windows firewall with advanced securiyy window?
#3169 [20:33] <FearSome20> http://i.imgur.com/qRlwc.png
#3170 [20:33] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, no
#3171 [20:33] <Lord_Ralex> in the "Resource Monitor"
#3172 [20:33] <Lord_Ralex> another program
#3173 [20:33] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, hmm, looks normal so far
#3174 [20:34] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, when it crashes does the Minecraft window exit itself?
#3175 [20:34] <mid_kid> tyteen4a03: if he has a network error he wouldn't even be able to log in
#3176 [20:34] <FearSome20> no, a screen will come up, ill send you a link for it
#3177 [20:34] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, a crash report screen?
#3178 [20:35] <tyteen4a03> mid_kid, uh...
#3179 [20:35] <FearSome20> http://i.imgur.com/Wzrth.png
#3180 [20:35] * tyteen4a03 needs coffee
#3180 [20:35] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#3181 [20:35] <DrSigmaFruit> Found it
#3182 [20:35] <DrSigmaFruit> What am I looking for under listening ports
#3183 [20:35] <Lord_Ralex> look for the java.exe
#3184 [20:35] <mid_kid> FearSome20: scroll down?
#3185 [20:35] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, can you find this error log shown in the error log and paste it on pastebin.com?
#3186 [20:35] <Lord_Ralex> and the right column is the fire wall status
#3187 [20:35] <Lord_Ralex> what does that show for it
#3188 [20:36] <DrSigmaFruit> Huh
#3189 [20:36] <DrSigmaFruit> Java's not there
#3190 [20:36] <Lord_Ralex> is the server running?
#3191 [20:36] <DrSigmaFruit> Only javaw
#3192 [20:36] <Lutzee> tyteen4a03: Probably graphics drivers, OpenGL version returned null
#3193 [20:36] <Lord_Ralex> oh
#3194 [20:36] <Lord_Ralex> then javaw
#3195 [20:36] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, f intel
#3196 [20:36] <Lord_Ralex> if you use the exe it uses that name
#3197 [20:36] <tyteen4a03> and f my brain in the meantime, couldn't even think straight
#3198 [20:36] <mid_kid> FearSome20: tyteen4a03's idea is better :P
#3199 [20:36] <DrSigmaFruit> Allowed, not restricted
#3200 [20:37] <FearSome20> one second
#3201 [20:37] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, on the computer hosting the server, can you connect to the server with "localhost"
#3202 [20:38] <DrSigmaFruit> Yes
#3203 [20:38] <DrSigmaFruit> Works fine
#3204 [20:38] <FearSome20> http://pastebin.com/3tmfvBBd
#3205 [20:38] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, can you use 192.168.1.101 on that computer as well
#3206 [20:38] <tyteen4a03> ??> FearSome20 gpu/intel
#3207 [20:38] <VoxelHead> FearSome20: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#3208 [20:38] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, please upgrade your driver by going there
#3209 [20:39] <FearSome20> so, minecraft wont work untill I do this?
#3210 [20:39] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, I'm afraid so
#3211 [20:39] <DrSigmaFruit> That works as well
#3212 [20:39] <FearSome20> it was working fine untill i bought the game
#3213 [20:40] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, can you try the other computer now
#3214 [20:40] <Lord_Ralex> using that 192 ip
#3215 [20:40] <mid_kid> FearSome20: did you update the game when you bought it?
#3216 [20:40] <FearSome20> yes, it automatically updated then i opened it the first time
#3217 [20:40] <DrSigmaFruit> With 192.168.1.101?
#3218 [20:41] <Lord_Ralex> yes
#3219 [20:41] <tyteen4a03> FearSome20, you'll need to upgrade because the graphics driver looks faulty
#3220 [20:41] <mid_kid> FearSome20: that could mean that the new minecraft version is not working for you
#3221 [20:41] <mid_kid> FearSome20: do what tyteen4a03 said
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#3223 [20:41] <kat> win/nodxdiag/bat
#3224 [20:42] <tyteen4a03> ??> kat win/dxdiag
#3225 [20:42] <VoxelHead> kat: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3226 [20:42] <VoxelHead> kat: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3227 [20:42] <DrSigmaFruit> Yeah I can join with the other one
#3228 [20:42] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, oh
#3229 [20:42] <Lord_Ralex> now try 192.168.1.1
#3230 [20:42] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, may I ask why? :P
#3231 [20:43] <tyteen4a03> sounds like the default gateway to me
#3232 [20:43] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, testing router
#3233 [20:43] <tyteen4a03> oh ok
#3234 [20:43] <Lord_Ralex> if port-forwarded, that will go to the server
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#3236 [20:43] <Lord_Ralex> so far internal ip works, so now we test the devices
#3237 [20:43] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, that should be the default gateway and will lead to router's web panel or something
#3238 [20:43] * mau5ie is now known as mau5ie|LoTR
#3239 [20:43] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, not from MC
#3240 [20:43] <tyteen4a03> oh
#3241 [20:43] * VvxBeastmanxvV [VvxBeastmanxvV@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3242 [20:43] * tyteen4a03 hides
#3242 [20:44] <VvxBeastmanxvV> How do I give you the specs of my computer?
#3243 [20:44] <DrSigmaFruit> 192.168.1.1 Doesn't work
#3244 [20:44] <tyteen4a03> VvxBeastmanxvV, why would you need to do so?
#3245 [20:44] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, can you get the ipconfig again
#3246 [20:44] <Lord_Ralex> want to make sure i gave you the right ip to test that
#3247 [20:44] <VvxBeastmanxvV> Sp you can tell me if Minecraft would lag or not if I bought it.
#3248 [20:44] <VvxBeastmanxvV> So
#3249 [20:44] <Lord_Ralex> VvxBeastmanxvV, what OS?
#3250 [20:44] <tyteen4a03> ??> VvxBeastmanxvV win/dxdiag/bat
#3251 [20:44] <VoxelHead> VvxBeastmanxvV: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#3252 [20:44] <VoxelHead> VvxBeastmanxvV: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#3253 [20:44] <Lord_Ralex> or ^
#3254 [20:45] <mid_kid> VvxBeastmanxvV: what OS?
#3255 [20:45] <DrSigmaFruit> Ipv4 address is 192.168.1.101
#3256 [20:45] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, the gateway one
#3257 [20:45] <Lord_Ralex> the other 192.168.1 one in this case
#3258 [20:45] <DrSigmaFruit> 192.168.1.1
#3259 [20:45] <Lord_Ralex> okay
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#3261 [20:45] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit: what brand is your router?
#3262 [20:45] <Lord_Ralex> so that did not work from the other computer?
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#3264 [20:46] <DrSigmaFruit> Linksys
#3265 [20:46] <DrSigmaFruit> Didn't work on the other
#3266 [20:46] <DrSigmaFruit> Only ipv4 worked
#3267 [20:46] <Lord_Ralex> okay
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#3270 [20:47] <VvxBeastmanxvV> http://pastebin.com/eZXe5SeE Do you think I would be able to play with best settings, and no lag?
#3271 [20:47] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, can you screenshot the port forward for that device again?
#3272 [20:47] <VvxBeastmanxvV> Or high fps.
#3273 [20:48] <tyteen4a03> VvxBeastmanxvV, looks fine, but Windows 8 might be a problem, since drivers aren't really out yet
#3274 [20:48] <tyteen4a03> you can try using the 7 one though
#3275 [20:48] <mid_kid> VvxBeastmanxvV: try the demo before buying
#3276 [20:48] <VvxBeastmanxvV> So, like far rendering, and fancy graphics?
#3277 [20:48] <tyteen4a03> VvxBeastmanxvV, it should handle it just fine
#3278 [20:49] <VvxBeastmanxvV> :D
#3279 [20:49] <VvxBeastmanxvV> ITS MRTUBS
#3280 [20:49] <tyteen4a03> you should also be able to get high FPS, but you will need the drivers that goes with irt
#3281 [20:49] <VvxBeastmanxvV> its me :D i bought a new computer
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#3283 [20:49] <VvxBeastmanxvV> remember me?
#3284 [20:49] <DrSigmaFruit> http://i.imgur.com/S4U5o.png
#3285 [20:50] <Lutzee> Wut 14GB of RAM?
#3286 [20:50] <VvxBeastmanxvV> indeed
#3287 [20:50] <Lutzee> What an odd stuoid number
#3288 [20:50] <VvxBeastmanxvV> you guys remember me though?
#3289 [20:50] <Lutzee> stupid*
#3290 [20:50] <Lord_Ralex> why do you need that much
#3291 [20:50] <Lutzee> We gave you a $1000 budget
#3292 [20:50] <VvxBeastmanxvV> i play other games too...
#3293 [20:50] <Lutzee> You dont play 4 games at once though..
#3294 [20:50] <Guest1> Hi, whenever I connect to my own server, running locally, I get in MC client "Internal Server Error", and in the MC Server.log, I get error http://pastebin.com/qLSXhMxB. I can connect perfectly fine to other servers. Thanks for your help!
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#3296 [20:50] <VvxBeastmanxvV> no, i play one at a time
#3297 [20:50] <mid_kid> VvxBeastmanxvV: why did you wvwn ask? having 14GB will play at least 200FPS
#3298 [20:50] <Lord_Ralex> if a game can use 14GB, then you have problems
#3299 [20:51] <Lord_Ralex> mid_kid, no
#3300 [20:51] <Lord_Ralex> ram != fps
#3301 [20:51] <Lord_Ralex> never
#3302 [20:51] <tyteen4a03> Guest1, did you modify the server.jar?
#3303 [20:51] <Lord_Ralex> (well does only slightly)
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#3305 [20:51] <mid_kid> Lord_Ralex: it has alwas been with me
#3306 [20:51] <VvxBeastmanxvV> so did i make a good buy guys?
#3307 [20:51] <Lord_Ralex> mid_kid, nope
#3308 [20:51] <Lord_Ralex> cpu/gpu is where that comes in
#3309 [20:51] <Guest1> @tyteen4a03, nope it's a clean 1.4.7, I even re-downloaded it, and same error
#3310 [20:51] <VvxBeastmanxvV> it was only 1200
#3311 [20:51] <DrSigmaFruit> Lord_Ralex: http://i.imgur.com/S4U5o.png
#3312 [20:51] <mid_kid> Lord_Ralex: i had 2GB, now i have 4GB HUGE change
#3313 [20:51] <Lutzee> playing on a 4GB ram PC will be faster than a 1GB PC but playing on an 8GB PC will never be faster than a 4GB PC
#3314 [20:51] <tyteen4a03> Guest1, is your client also on 1.4.7?
#3315 [20:52] <Lord_Ralex> mid_kid, if you run under what MC needs then yes
#3316 [20:52] <Lord_Ralex> and it will only use what you tell it
#3317 [20:52] <Lutzee> mid_kid: that doesnt follow through
#3318 [20:52] <Lord_Ralex> which default is 1GB
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#3320 [20:52] <Lord_Ralex> 2GB means you probably ran MC with less than the 1 GB it wants
#3321 [20:52] <kat> do i have to join pastbin
#3322 [20:52] <Lord_Ralex> so it has to do more GC, which affects fps
#3323 [20:52] <tyteen4a03> kat, no
#3324 [20:52] <tyteen4a03> kat, just submit
#3325 [20:52] <Guest1> @tyteen4a03, no client is modded 1.4.6, but it's connected fine before, it just started doing this
#3326 [20:52] <darius23> after i login to minecraft my minecraft screen goes black
#3327 [20:53] <tyteen4a03> Guest1, the modded client could be sending weird packets
#3328 [20:53] <Lord_Ralex> DrSigmaFruit, sec, let me look at something
#3329 [20:53] <Guest1> @tyteen4a03, hmm... so I should reinstall vanilla 1.4.7 and test if it works
#3330 [20:53] <tyteen4a03> Guest1, yes
#3331 [20:53] <Lutzee> Oh frick i dont currently have my cisco router here, i can go look through the settings
#3332 [20:54] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit: can you find the WAN settings in your router
#3333 [20:54] <kat> ok submitted
#3334 [20:54] <DrSigmaFruit> Whre would that be
#3335 [20:55] <Lutzee> kat: is this it http://pastebin.com/yckTSGJJ ?
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#3337 [20:56] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit: i cant remember off the top of my head
#3338 [20:56] <kat> what do u mean
#3339 [20:56] <Lutzee> kat: is that your paste?
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#3341 [20:56] <kat> yes
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#3344 [20:57] <Lutzee> kat: please install these graphics drivers http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails/Product/inspiron-1525?driverId=JWD8H&osCode=WW1&fileId=2731103531
#3345 [20:58] <DrSigmaFruit> Lutzee: http://i.imgur.com/i0coj.png
#3346 [20:59] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit: what does the status tab show?
#3347 [21:00] <DrSigmaFruit> http://i.imgur.com/5qWEx.png
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#3349 [21:01] <Lutzee> Bingo
#3350 [21:02] <Lutzee> Looks like you are behind a double nat..
#3351 [21:02] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit: put 192.168.0.1 into your web browser
#3352 [21:02] <DrSigmaFruit> What's that mean..
#3353 [21:02] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#3354 [21:02] <DrSigmaFruit> I get
#3355 [21:02] <DrSigmaFruit> My modem page
#3356 [21:03] <Lutzee> Right..
#3357 [21:03] <Lutzee> Your modem is also a router
#3358 [21:03] <DrSigmaFruit> Do I port forward that too?
#3359 [21:03] <Lutzee> yes
#3360 [21:03] <Lutzee> portforward it to the other router
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#3362 [21:03] <DrSigmaFruit> How do you do that
#3363 [21:03] <Lutzee> not sure..
#3364 [21:04] <Lutzee> I'm wondering why you have a router behind a router in the first place..
#3365 [21:04] <FearSome20> can i get a refund for minecraft?
#3366 [21:04] <Mitch83> hi when i login its fine then right after load it goes black screen?
#3367 [21:04] <Lutzee> I mean yes, you have a nice expensive cisco router..
#3368 [21:04] <DrSigmaFruit> Caues I had the router for a long time
#3369 [21:04] <DrSigmaFruit> The modem's new
#3370 [21:05] <DrSigmaFruit> It just happened to have a router
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#3372 [21:05] <DrSigmaFruit> I have a network set up on the modem/router one
#3373 [21:05] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit: alternitively try and find a setting that sets the modem/router combo to just a router
#3374 [21:05] <DrSigmaFruit> Should I connect to that?
#3375 [21:05] <Mitch83> any ideas for fixing black screen
#3376 [21:05] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit: Or that yes
#3377 [21:05] <DrSigmaFruit> k
#3378 [21:05] <DrSigmaFruit> brb
#3379 [21:05] <Lutzee> What you said would be the best option if there is another network on it
#3380 [21:06] <Lutzee> Mitch83: force update
#3381 [21:06] <FearSome20> @Mitch i have that problem too, I cant fix it...
#3382 [21:06] <Lutzee> ?? forceupdate
#3383 [21:06] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3384 [21:06] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#3385 [21:06] <Mitch83> thmmm
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#3388 [21:06] <DrSigmaFruit_> back
#3389 [21:06] <DrSigmaFruit_> On the other network now
#3390 [21:06] <Mitch83> i did that already
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#3392 [21:07] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit_: forward the ports on the modem/router combo to your new IPv4 address
#3393 [21:07] <Lutzee> FearSome20: install these graphics drivers http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22375&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20(64-bit)*&DownloadType=%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09Drivers%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09
#3394 [21:08] <Lutzee> Mitch83: can you get a crash report please www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#3395 [21:08] <DrSigmaFruit_> Iphttp://i.imgur.com/4ijal.png
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#3397 [21:08] <DrSigmaFruit_> http://i.imgur.com/4ijal.png*
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#3399 [21:09] <Mitch83_> i need help i get a black screen after login i hav a mac
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#3401 [21:09] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit_: is the server running now?
#3402 [21:09] <DrSigmaFruit_> Yes
#3403 [21:09] <kat> ok i down loaded comp filer180043.exe, do i need to down load indvidual ones located below?
#3404 [21:09] <Lutzee> !check CPEbc14013485d3-CMbc14013485d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
#3405 [21:09] <Lutzee> hmm
#3406 [21:09] <Lutzee> hmm
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#3408 [21:10] <Lutzee> kat: just run that file
#3409 [21:10] <DrSigmaFruit_> I'm confused too
#3410 [21:10] <Lutzee> And follow the installer
#3411 [21:10] <kat> i ran it
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#3413 [21:11] <Lutzee> kat: After everything is installed restart your PC and try running minecraft again
#3414 [21:11] <kat> hope it works thanks much- hope i don't have to bother you again
#3415 [21:12] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit_: the only other thing i can think of is that your ISP is blocking it :/
#3416 [21:12] <DrSigmaFruit_> It was working a few months ago
#3417 [21:12] <DrSigmaFruit_> Same ISP
#3418 [21:12] <DrSigmaFruit_> Just different modem
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#3420 [21:13] <Lutzee> DrSigmaFruit_: might be the modem then :/
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#3422 [21:14] <DrSigmaFruit_> Sigh
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#3424 [21:15] <DrSigmaFruit_> It seems to be only minecraft
#3425 [21:15] <DrSigmaFruit_> I can host magicka without a problem
#3426 [21:16] <ryan_> the program automatically shuts down after i enter my username and password. how do i stop this?
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#3429 [21:18] <ryan_> can anyone help?
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#3431 [21:18] <helpneededSTILL> okay, reset password, waited over one hr. Still can not login to game. can login to majong site. in client using same user/pass get login failed. avg running but link checker disabled as told earlier tonight
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#3433 [21:19] <andy_> Minecraft has crashed, keeps coming up when I try to go into a world?
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#3436 [21:19] <dbomb57> I just bought Minecraft PC version. I like creative mode (not survival). How do I delete blocks or items?
#3437 [21:19] <andy_> what do i do when minecraft has crashed?
#3438 [21:19] <dbomb57> Is someone there?
#3439 [21:20] <dbomb57> i need customer support. is this it?
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#3441 [21:20] <ryan_> the program automatically shuts down after i enter my username and password. how do i stop this?
#3442 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> dbomb57 - By just left clicking on it
#3443 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> ryan_ - Do you get any errors? Any crash reports?
#3444 [21:21] <dbomb57> that does not work
#3445 [21:21] <dbomb57> no
#3446 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> dbomb57 - Then check your controls. Esc -> options -> controls.
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#3448 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Make sure that attack is bound correctly
#3449 [21:21] <dbomb57> i have minecraft PE on my itouch - and deleting blocks is easy there...
#3450 [21:21] <andy_> yes i do, when i go in maps i get crash reports
#3451 [21:22] <dbomb57> we already did try going to controls
#3452 [21:22] <dbomb57> what should we do in controls?
#3453 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> dbomb57 - Deleting blocks is easy on PC as well. If you're playing survival, you need to hold down the left mouse button until the block is destroyed. If you're playing in creative, the block should instantly disappear.
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#3455 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> dbomb57 - Make sure that attack is bound correctly to your left mouse button in control
#3456 [21:22] <andy_> what do u do when minecraft says it has crashed when u enter a map
#3457 [21:22] <dbomb57> when i left click, it places a block.
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#3459 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> dbomb57 - Then you may have switched the control, or you're using a left-handed configuration.
#3460 [21:23] <ryan_> No, i do not get any messages the screen just disapeares. this is the first time ive used the program i just bought the game.
#3461 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> andy_ - Please share that error report with us via www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
#3462 [21:23] <dbomb57> we'll try that. ....
#3463 [21:23] <dbomb57> be back if that doesn't work... thx!
#3464 [21:23] <helpneededSTILL> reset password, waited over one hr. Still can not login to game. can login to majong site. in client using same user/pass get login failed. avg running but link checker disabled as told earlier tonight. Ideas???
#3465 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> helpneededSTILL - Have you created a minecraft profile under your mojang.com account?
#3466 [21:24] <helpneededSTILL> yes, can see it on profile page
#3467 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a minecraft name associated with your minecraft purchase?
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#3469 [21:25] <helpneededSTILL> profile page shows minecraft and profile id on same line.
#3470 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> If so, you'll then use your email address and password to log into your launcher.
#3471 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> If you're still getting login failed, your password is incorrect.
#3472 [21:26] <andy_> posted
#3473 [21:26] <andy_> posted
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#3475 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> andy_ - The address?
#3476 [21:26] <andy_> http://minecraft.net/play
#3477 [21:26] <helpneededSTILL> I've reset it over 20 times since thursday. everytime I ask for help that is what i am told to do. I use the password to login to mojang site without problem
#3478 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Not that, the pastebin.com address
#3479 [21:27] <andy_> http://pastebin.com/T4e1DujV
#3480 [21:27] <ryan_> do i need a 64bit laptop to play minecraft?
#3481 [21:27] <dbomb57> okay, i'm in creative mode. in options/controls -- i made "pick block" button 1 - it builds blocks but won't delete blocks
#3482 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> pick block isn't the delete block option
#3483 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> andy_ - Try a force update through the launcher's options menu
#3484 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> pick block makes the block you're looking at, the active block for your hand
#3485 [21:28] <andy_> how do i find a force update?
#3486 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> ??> andy_ forceupdate
#3487 [21:28] <VoxelHead> andy_: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3488 [21:28] <VoxelHead> andy_: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#3489 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> dbomb57 - Make sure Use Item is your right mouse button. That is your Place block button.
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#3491 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> dbomb57 - Left mouse button should be Destroy block/attack
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#3493 [21:30] <helpneededSTILL> sitting on my mojang account page. can login mojang no problems but can not login to game...
#3494 [21:30] <dbomb57> how do i make the left button attack and right button "place block"?
#3495 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> dbomb57 - Click on the control in your options menu, then click on the mouse button you wish to bind to it with
#3496 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> helpneededSTILL - When logging into mojang.com, you see a minecraft entry under "My games", and with it, a minecraft profile name on the same line? It doesn't ask you to create a profile, right?
#3497 [21:32] <helpneededSTILL> correct
#3498 [21:32] <andy_> didnt work any other suggestions?
#3499 [21:33] <dbomb57> yeah!!!
#3500 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> helpneededSTILL - When you created your mojang.com account, did you verify your email address through a link provided by an email?
#3501 [21:33] <dbomb57> thank you! (this is dbomb's mom typing to you.... i bought this game for him yesterday because he loved the i-touch version so much.
#3502 [21:33] <helpneededSTILL> yes, and have reset password over 20 times as directed here
#3503 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> dbomb57 - Anytime. Enjoy.
#3504 [21:33] <dbomb57> he knows this game better than me, ....... he loves the creative mode.
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#3506 [21:34] <ryan_> do i need a 64bit laptop to play minecraft?
#3507 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> ryan_ - You do not.
#3508 [21:34] <dbomb57> oh wait.... another question
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#3512 [21:34] <dbomb57> if you have items in the item boxes on the bottom of the screen, how do you switch items without going to inventory?
#3513 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> dbomb57 - By either using your number keys, or your scroll wheel on your mouse
#3514 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Oh, but if you want to switch those items out, you'll need to go to your inventory to do so
#3515 [21:35] <dbomb57> thank you again! ....you saved the day
#3516 [21:35] <helpneededSTILL> yes email verified, and have reset password over 20 times as directed here. still can not login to game
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#3518 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> helpneededSTILL - Hmm. As far as I know, those are the three most common issues for login failed. If the account hasn't been verified, it'll throw that error. If the profile hasn't been created, it'll throw that error. If the username/password is incorrect, it'll throw that error
#3519 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> In all other cases, it's been the incorrect username/password.. oh wait.
#3520 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> What antivirus do you run?
#3521 [21:37] <helpneededSTILL> Account verified. Profile created. username/password work fine for mojang but not game. AVG with link checker turned off as directed by lutzee earlier this evening
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#3523 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Could you do a test, and turn AVG off completely and try logging in?
#3524 [21:40] <helpneededSTILL> avg disabled, login failed still
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#3526 [21:42] <ryan_> i am having trouble logging into minecraft, just bout it first. first time trying to play. the program automatically shuts down after i put in my information and log in. any suggestions?
#3527 [21:42] <helpneededSTILL> avg disabled, login failed still. tried again same problem
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#3529 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> helpneededSTILL - Just curious. Do you get a "Bad Login" when you try: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
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#3531 [21:45] <helpneededSTILL> if i go to that url yes
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#3533 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
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#3535 [21:46] <ryan_> i am having trouble logging into minecraft, just bout it first. first time trying to play. the program automatically shuts down after i put in my information and log in. any suggestions?
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#3537 [21:48] <ryan_> +i am having trouble logging into minecraft, just bout it first. first time trying to play. the program automatically shuts down after i put in my information and log in. any suggestions?
#3538 [21:48] <ConConWonTon> The Shift-Click command doesn't work
#3539 [21:48] <helpneededSTILL> ?
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#3543 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> helpneededSTILL - I'm sorry, I'm out of ideas then.
#3544 [21:49] <ryan__> i am having trouble logging into minecraft, just bout it first. first time trying to play. the program automatically shuts down after i put in my information and log in. any suggestions?
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#3546 [21:50] <ryan__> i am having trouble logging into minecraft, just bout it first. first time trying to play. the program automatically shuts down after i put in my information and log in. any suggestions?
#3547 [21:50] <helpneededSTILL> any ideas where i can go for help? my son really wants this
#3548 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> ryan__ - Pastebin.com the error report, give us the URL
#3549 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> helpneededSTILL - I suppose, stick around, maybe somebody else has an idea.
#3550 [21:51] <helpneededSTILL> ok
#3551 [21:52] <helpneededSTILL> can not login game. can login majong account website. Been trying 3 days to get this working for son. HELP!
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#3554 [21:57] <Ralph> I cannot place blocks to build things. I'm using a MacBook Pro with OS X version 10.8.2. Are their issues with this platform running Minecraft?
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#3556 [21:58] <Ralph> I made a crafting table and trie to place so I can make things, but it wouldn't let met put it down.
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#3560 [21:59] <Ralph> I tried using the control key while left clicking on the mouse, but it wouldn't do anything.
#3561 [22:00] <ryan__> There is no error report?
#3562 [22:00] <Ralph> None. It works on my wifes desk top but not on my lap top.
#3563 [22:00] <FLHerne> Ralph: So, right-click doesn't work?
#3564 [22:00] <Ralph> Right click doesn't work either.
#3565 [22:00] <FLHerne> Try [squiggly-thing]-click, perhaps?
#3566 [22:01] <Ralph> H/O let me try that.
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#3569 [22:03] <Ralph> no luck. that didn't work
#3570 [22:03] <FLHerne> Ralph: Menu -> Options -> Controls?
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#3572 [22:04] <FLHerne> Click on the button next to 'Use Item', then press whatever button it is
#3573 [22:04] <sattler> when creating a new world the loader opens the world but it is shaky, like there is an earthquake. it only does it on single player? is it minecraft or something else
#3574 [22:04] <Ralph> I looked in options and there was nothing there to select. There is the drop control but that just drops it out of your inventory.
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#3576 [22:04] <ZachMan101> hello?
#3577 [22:05] <ZachMan101> is anybody there?
#3578 [22:05] <sattler> yes
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#3580 [22:05] <colt> trying ti
#3581 [22:05] <colt> o
#3582 [22:06] <FLHerne> ZachMan101: It's the middle of the night in Europe though, and getting late in the eastern US ;-)
#3583 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> sattler - Ensure that you're not spawning inside of an object. Try destroying the ground beneath you to escape
#3584 [22:06] <Ralph> OK, I'll give that a shot.
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#3586 [22:06] <ZachMan101> So i downloaded minecraft and made a account and tried to login. But i dont have the paid version and want to stick to the free version. But when i login the play offline is greyd out and it says "not downloaded"
#3587 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> You cannot play offline without a premium account
#3588 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Try the demo at www.minecraft.net/demo
#3589 [22:07] <ZachMan101> You use to be able to
#3590 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Not in the 2 years I've been here
#3591 [22:07] <FLHerne> There isn't a downloadable client for the Classic/Free version
#3592 [22:07] <ZachMan101> I remember there was a thing its called outdated but free
#3593 [22:07] <|Kiikun|> you only 'used' to be able to because someone with a legit account logged in
#3594 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> That would be the outdated classic version
#3595 [22:07] <|Kiikun|> Zach: thats Classic
#3596 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Which has long been discontinued.
#3597 [22:08] <sattler> it worked thank you
#3598 [22:08] <ZachMan101> But i downloaded it, i did not play it in the browser
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#3600 [22:08] <|Kiikun|> ZachMan101: if youre talkign the World of Minecraft stuff.. thats 3rd party and we dont support it here
#3601 [22:08] <ZachMan101> i downloaded it, loged in and played offline without having a premium account
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#3603 [22:09] <helpneededSTILL> can not login game. can login majong account website. Been trying 3 days to get this working for son. HELP!
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#3605 [22:11] <ZachMan101> Cant you login under someones elses premium account and play offline?
#3606 [22:11] <|Kiikun|> helpneededSTILL: what does the following link say to you? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=Meep&version=13
#3607 [22:11] <FLHerne> ZachMan101: Not legally you can't
#3608 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> ZachMan101 - Which is against Mojang's Terms of Service.
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#3610 [22:12] <Chanezzz> I have an apple computer and it is java 7 - what can I do to make mind craft download
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#3612 [22:12] <helpneededSTILL> url returns bad login
#3613 [22:12] <ZachMan101> I just remembered thats what me and my frinds did, we used a friends premium account just to play online:)
#3614 [22:12] <ZachMan101> I mean offline
#3615 [22:12] <|Kiikun|> helpneededSTILL: ok and when you log in via the launcher, what does the red error text say?
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#3617 [22:13] <helpneededSTILL> login error
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#3620 [22:13] <ZachMan101> no it wont it says something like cant connect to minecraft and you can click play offline
#3621 [22:13] <helpneededSTILL> using same login info to access mojang website no problems
#3622 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> ZachMan101 - Nope.
#3623 [22:13] <FLHerne> Chanezzz: Is it the thing with Gatekeeper claiming the download is corrupt?
#3624 [22:13] <Chanezzz> Any help for an apple computer
#3625 [22:13] <ZachMan101> Yepp.
#3626 [22:14] <mc2451> guys any ideas on how to get custom spawn eggs to work. i have heard they only work on 1.1 is there any way to make them worlk on 1.4 ?
#3627 [22:14] <ZachMan101> Im going to ask my friend since he recently bough minecraft
#3628 [22:14] <|Kiikun|> helpneededSTILL: do you see the news above the login? or does it give some html-error-code?
#3629 [22:14] <helpneededSTILL> see the news and such fine
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#3631 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> |Kiikun| - Login Failed, reset password multiple times, email verified, minecraft profile created.
#3632 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> I'm baffled as to any other way helpneededSTILL still gets that error
#3633 [22:15] <|Kiikun|> and using email-as-username and not just username?
#3634 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Right.
#3635 [22:15] <helpneededSTILL> correct
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#3638 [22:15] <helpneededSTILL> tried login on other computer, same error
#3639 [22:16] * |Kiikun| scratches head
#3639 [22:16] <helpneededSTILL> me too!!!!
#3640 [22:16] <Chanezzz> We bought a prepaid card for mind craft and says mind craft 4 is damaged - move to trash
#3641 [22:16] <|Kiikun|> tried checking manually with the login link i mentioemnd before?
#3642 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> ??> Chanezzz mac/gatekeeper/disable
#3643 [22:17] <VoxelHead> Chanezzz: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#3644 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Set gatekeeper to "Anywhere"
#3645 [22:17] <Chanezzz> I will try it thanks
#3646 [22:17] <helpneededSTILL> yes
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#3649 [22:20] <|Kiikun|> grey: is there a login-url for migrated accounts just to check it manually?
#3650 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Not aware of any
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#3652 [22:21] <|Kiikun|> hmm...
#3653 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> helpneededSTILL - Does minecraft work in the browser? www.minecraft.net/play
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#3657 [22:24] <helpneededSTILL> grey - went to the url, it asked security question, entered it and a page with a java version of demo loaded and seems to work fine. But I paid for full version
#3658 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, shouldn't be the demo.
#3659 [22:24] * |Kiikun| loads
#3659 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> The demo's located at minecraft.net/demo, the inbrowser version of the full version can be accessed from minecraft.net/play
#3660 [22:25] <helpneededSTILL> button says play demo world
#3661 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> What's the URL at the top of your browser
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#3663 [22:25] <helpneededSTILL> went to /play
#3664 [22:25] <|Kiikun|> im at /play
#3665 [22:25] <|Kiikun|> loaded normal game for me
#3666 [22:26] <|Kiikun|> you logged in on the site?
#3667 [22:26] <helpneededSTILL> shows https://minecraft.net/play
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#3669 [22:26] <helpneededSTILL> top right shows me logged in and email
#3670 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Okay... what version does it say you're running in the bottom left?
#3671 [22:27] <helpneededSTILL> 1.4.7 demo
#3672 [22:27] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3672 [22:27] <|Kiikun|> just logged in on my GF's unreged account
#3673 [22:27] <|Kiikun|> got demo
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#3676 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you're using the correct account helpneededSTILL?
#3677 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Something's wonky here.
#3678 [22:28] <helpneededSTILL> yes, same details i login to majong
#3679 [22:28] <|Kiikun|> very much wonky
#3680 [22:28] <|Kiikun|> does !paid still work?
#3681 [22:28] * GreyVulpine shrugs
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#3682 [22:28] <|Kiikun|> !paid nutbunny
#3683 [22:28] <rocco> how do you cancel our purchase? My pc is not compatible.
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#3687 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> rocco - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#3688 [22:30] <|Kiikun|> !paid sennyotai
#3689 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> ok those still work.
#3690 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> ok those still work.
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#3692 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> helpneededSTILL: whats your in-game-name?
#3693 [22:31] <helpneededSTILL> magmatron65
#3694 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> !paid magmatron65
#3695 [22:32] <helpneededSTILL> my son choose that. :)
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#3697 [22:32] <|Kiikun|> ok just wanted to make sure that wasnt the issue.
#3698 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> I suppose... head into .minecraft, delete. Redownload the launcher and try again?
#3699 [22:33] <helpneededSTILL> doing now
#3700 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Ensure you're getting the right launcher from minecraft.net/download
#3701 [22:34] <oodave> I refreshed my pc last night due to problems and now when my kids open minecraft the worlds they created no longer appear. I have been able to locate the files attached to these worlds through explorer though. How do I get these worlds back?
#3702 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Where are the worlds located on your computer, that you see?
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#3705 [22:36] <oodave> c drive under /windows old/ found them by just doing a search.
#3706 [22:36] <hgfhgfhgf> im having issues purchasing minecraft
#3707 [22:37] <helpneededSTILL> kii deleted dir, redownloaded launcher, same error
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#3711 [22:39] <HELPME> it wont let me purchase minecraft
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#3713 [22:41] <HELPME> ive tried several times and it wont go through!
#3714 [22:41] <oodave> greyvulpine - actual location is c:\windows.old\users\(pc name)\appdata\roaming\
#3715 [22:41] <|Kiikun|> helpneededSTILL: hmm... im stumped too... and i know youve retyped the user/pass a few times already...
#3716 [22:41] <|Kiikun|> helpneededSTILL: try a java update?
#3717 [22:41] <helpneededSTILL> says I have latest
#3718 [22:42] <|Kiikun|> oodave: in the .minecraft folder, theres a saves folder. just put that in the current %appdata%/.minecraft/saves folder
#3719 [22:42] <HELPME> can someone help me figure out how to actually purchase minecraft?
#3720 [22:42] <oodave> thanks. I will give that a go.
#3721 [22:43] <cestislife> HELPME, did you register at accounts.mojang.com ?
#3722 [22:43] <HELPME> yes and when i went to pay for it, it never completed the transaction
#3723 [22:44] <|Kiikun|> helpneededSTILL: i actually doubt having you uninstall and reinstall java will fix it, but wanna give it a try?
#3724 [22:45] <helpneededSTILL> if java bad demo shouldn't run. I keep thinking an account issue on their end
#3725 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> It's a possibility... but the turnaround for a response to a support ticket is roughly a month.
#3726 [22:46] <|Kiikun|> and java CAN still run the game and have somethign else in it broken.. wich is what im thinking
#3727 [22:47] <oodave> Kiikun - you are a champion. my kids will be very happy.
#3728 [22:47] <helpneededSTILL> tonights the end. if not running in next 15 mins i told son i submit for refund. been trying since thursday afternoon on this...
#3729 [22:47] <|Kiikun|> oodave: no probs ;3 enjoy minecrafting
#3730 [22:47] <helpneededSTILL> okay will uninstall and reinstall java
#3731 [22:48] <|Kiikun|> helpneededSTILL: specfiicly you need to uninstall it first.
#3732 [22:48] <|Kiikun|> helpneededSTILL: once its uninstalled completely, then you install a fresh clean cop from java.com
#3733 [22:48] <|Kiikun|> helpneededSTILL: and if youre computer is 64bit, you shoudl get the 64bit java as well.
#3734 [22:50] <helpneededSTILL> okay, have to shutdown IE to unistall BRB
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#3736 [22:50] <|Kiikun|> o/
#3737 [22:50] <HELPME> help me now?
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#3739 [22:53] <|Kiikun|> HELPME: the pages just stopepd loading when you went to pay? did i hear that right before?
#3740 [22:55] <HELPME> i entered in my credit card info and i hit the pay now button and it said it couldn't process it right then. so i closed out and tried it again. i did that a couple times then tried my paypal account, and that didnt work either. i used a different credit card and got it to process the transaction then it quit and failed twice
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#3742 [22:57] <HELPME> and it actually said at one point that it had completed the transaction and to wait for an email, but i still havent gotten it and that was maybe 30 minutes ago
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#3745 [22:59] <helpneededSTILL2> back... still the same after java reinstall
#3746 [23:00] <|Kiikun|> HELPME: it might take more than 30 minute for the email. is your card a prepaid card?
#3747 [23:00] <lexi1121> i can't open mine craft with safari
#3748 [23:00] <HELPME> no, its a debit card
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#3750 [23:01] <lexi1121> what application is needed to open minecraft with safari
#3751 [23:01] <|Kiikun|> HELPME: its possible theyre stopping the transaction due to it beign international... but i didnt have that issue myself (debt mastercard)
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#3753 [23:01] <|Kiikun|> lexi1121: minecraft is a java application. so you need java.
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#3755 [23:02] <HELPME> okay that makes sense but how am i supposed to buy the game?
#3756 [23:02] <|Kiikun|> helpneededSTILL2: ok.. im still stumped then :< and since you see news, java isnt being firewall-blocked.
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#3760 [23:02] <atrus713> cant change my skin, it just tells me i need to buy minecraft but i already have
#3761 [23:02] <|Kiikun|> HELPME: if it IS being stopped because of that, talkign to your bank shoudl clear it up
#3762 [23:02] <helpneededSTILL2> guess its refund time for now...
#3763 [23:03] <|Kiikun|> helpneededSTILL2: :< sorry.
#3764 [23:03] <HELPME> okay, thanks
#3765 [23:03] <HELPME> okay, thanks
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#3769 [23:04] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay so I had a double NAT
#3770 [23:04] <DrSigmaFruit> So I bridged one
#3771 [23:04] <DrSigmaFruit> But now when I check PFChecker on the port
#3772 [23:05] <DrSigmaFruit> It says cannot ping router but still says port is open
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#3775 [23:05] <|Kiikun|> DrSigmaFruit: if the port is open, then it shoudl be fine.
#3776 [23:06] <|Kiikun|> especially if you got the routers set up right.
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#3778 [23:06] <helpneededSTILL2> thanks for the ideas. son is not happy.......
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#3780 [23:06] <DrSigmaFruit> Well
#3781 [23:06] <DrSigmaFruit> It was open
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#3783 [23:06] <DrSigmaFruit> But apparently it just closed
#3784 [23:07] <DrSigmaFruit> I checked 5 minutes ago and it said open
#3785 [23:07] <atrus713> is no one going to answer my question?
#3786 [23:07] <|Kiikun|> DrSigmaFruit: is the server running? (asuming youre trygin to set up a server behind a double nat)
#3787 [23:07] <DrSigmaFruit> But when I try to join the server, it says can't reach server
#3788 [23:07] <DrSigmaFruit> No, not a double nat anymore
#3789 [23:07] <DrSigmaFruit> I bridged it
#3790 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> atrus713 - If it's denying you access to changing your skins, then your account is not premium
#3791 [23:07] <DrSigmaFruit> Yea it's running now
#3792 [23:08] <cameron> something went wrong when i migrated my account
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#3794 [23:08] <HaehE> Ok does anyone know how to contact minecraft directly
#3795 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> atrus713 - Ensure that payment was made from your financial institution. If it has not, then the transaction was not successful
#3796 [23:08] <cameron> i wont let me login in now
#3797 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> HaehE - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#3798 [23:08] <atrus713> i have been able to change my skin before many times but i have gotten tired of the current skin
#3799 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> cameron - If you've got a migration issue, check out: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/438361-account-migration-issues
#3800 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> cameron - A link to contact customer support is also included at the end of the article
#3801 [23:09] <DrSigmaFruit> Yes my port is open but still get can't reach server
#3802 [23:10] <|Kiikun|> !check 99.238.148.221
#3803 [23:10] <DrSigmaFruit> I'm really confused
#3804 [23:10] <DrSigmaFruit> I'm using
#3805 [23:10] <DrSigmaFruit> canyouseeme
#3806 [23:10] <DrSigmaFruit> Sometimes when I check it it says open
#3807 [23:10] <DrSigmaFruit> Sometimes it says closed
#3808 [23:10] <|Kiikun|> is the server running right now? (and set for default port?)
#3809 [23:11] <DrSigmaFruit> Running now
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#3812 [23:13] <cameron> i already migrated the acount it says login failed when sighing into the minecraft lancher when i try to send a message out to see if i have any account on the email it errors
#3813 [23:13] <|Kiikun|> DrSigmaFruit: your network setup sounds a bit odd to me... so you have the internet-connected router routing straight to the computer running the server? or is it routing from one router to the other which then routes to the computer runnign the server?
#3814 [23:13] <DrSigmaFruit> Uh
#3815 [23:13] <DrSigmaFruit> Well
#3816 [23:13] <atrus713> nevermind, aparently i have two accounts that vary by only one character
#3817 [23:13] <DrSigmaFruit> I have a modem/router combo as one
#3818 [23:13] <DrSigmaFruit> That's the one I bridged
#3819 [23:13] <DrSigmaFruit> That's plugged into an actual router
#3820 [23:14] <atrus713> and only one has an account
#3821 [23:14] <DrSigmaFruit> A linksys one
#3822 [23:14] <DrSigmaFruit> And then the computer with the server on it is connected to that
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#3824 [23:15] * |Kiikun| scratches head.
#3824 [23:15] <DrSigmaFruit> Isn't that the regular combination
#3825 [23:15] <|Kiikun|> is it bridging via wifi? or just cables?
#3826 [23:16] <DrSigmaFruit> Uhm
#3827 [23:16] <DrSigmaFruit> Cables I think
#3828 [23:16] <DrSigmaFruit> The modem/router is directly connected to the router
#3829 [23:16] <DrSigmaFruit> Via wire
#3830 [23:16] <|Kiikun|> sorry, never set up a router-to-router network before :P
#3831 [23:17] <DrSigmaFruit> Well I think it's just a modem now
#3832 [23:17] <DrSigmaFruit> Modem-Router-Computer
#3833 [23:17] <|Kiikun|> if thats the case... then regular port forward on the linksys shoudl work
#3834 [23:17] <|Kiikun|> if the modems still acting liek a router... dmz the linksys?
#3835 [23:18] <DrSigmaFruit> dmz?
#3836 [23:18] <cameron> i already migrated the acount it says login failed when sighing into the minecraft lancher when i try to send a message out to see if i have any account on the email it errors
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#3838 [23:18] <|Kiikun|> DeMilitarized Zone. for routers it basicly means 'all traffic that doesnt match a rule goes here'
#3839 [23:18] <DrSigmaFruit> Is the router server supposed to be 192.168.1.1:80?
#3840 [23:18] <|Kiikun|> sometimes.
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#3842 [23:18] <|Kiikun|> that sounds right
#3843 [23:18] <DrSigmaFruit> Okay
#3844 [23:19] <DrSigmaFruit> Should I enable DMZ?
#3845 [23:19] <|Kiikun|> if the modem's ip is 192.168.0.1
#3846 [23:19] <|Kiikun|> enamle it on the modem/router
#3847 [23:19] <DrSigmaFruit> Ip's 192.168.1.1
#3848 [23:20] <|Kiikun|> .1.1 is the modem? router is .2.1 or .1.100 or .1.254
#3849 [23:21] <|Kiikun|> ?
#3850 [23:21] <DrSigmaFruit> The modem is
#3851 [23:22] <DrSigmaFruit> 192.168.0.1
#3852 [23:22] <DrSigmaFruit> But I can't access it anymore because it's bridged
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#3855 [23:22] <|Kiikun|> bridged is a physical switch?
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#3857 [23:23] <DrSigmaFruit> I called my ISP
#3858 [23:23] <|Kiikun|> oh and they sdid it
#3859 [23:23] <DrSigmaFruit> Because bridging can only be done by them apparently
#3860 [23:23] <DrSigmaFruit> So they bridged it
#3861 [23:23] <|Kiikun|> ok then that means they dropped it to beign just a modem
#3862 [23:24] <DrSigmaFruit> Ya
#3863 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> then the 'modem' shouldnt have an ip for itself and shoudl be plugged into your router's WAN port
#3864 [23:24] <DrSigmaFruit> Yeah
#3865 [23:24] <DrSigmaFruit> I meant
#3866 [23:25] <DrSigmaFruit> The router part of the modem was 192.168.0.1
#3867 [23:26] <|Kiikun|> ok but that doesnt show up when you look at your WAN-IP, it shows your actual-internet-ip?
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#3869 [23:26] <DrSigmaFruit> How do you check wan-ip?
#3870 [23:26] <|Kiikun|> if so.. then simply port forwarding shoudl work. if not then theres a firewall
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#3872 [23:26] <|Kiikun|> in the router's config
#3873 [23:27] <|Kiikun|> does it say 99.238.148.221 or 192.168.0.1?
#3874 [23:27] <DrSigmaFruit> Connection Type: Automatic Configuration - DHCP Internet IP Address: 99.238.148.221
#3875 [23:27] <DrSigmaFruit> Connection Type: Automatic Configuration - DHCP Internet IP Address: 99.238.148.221
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#3877 [23:28] <|Kiikun|> ok in the router go to the page for configuring port forwarding.
#3878 [23:29] <|Kiikun|> and i assume you know your local-ip for the computer runnign the server
#3879 [23:29] <DrSigmaFruit> Yea
#3880 [23:29] <DrSigmaFruit> Yes
#3881 [23:29] <|Kiikun|> doublecheck its correct on that page.
#3882 [23:30] <DrSigmaFruit> http://i.imgur.com/3dnEg.png wait which
#3883 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> First one. Port 25565-25565
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#3885 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> What is the local ip of the computer running the server?
#3886 [23:31] <DrSigmaFruit> 192.168.101
#3887 [23:31] <|Kiikun|> .101 looks like a dhcp-given ip...
#3888 [23:31] <DrSigmaFruit> 192.168.1.101*
#3889 [23:32] <DrSigmaFruit> First one's already checked
#3890 [23:32] <freak> why wouldnt i be able to chat
#3891 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Then that port forward looks right.
#3892 [23:32] <|Kiikun|> !check 99.238.148.221
#3893 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> freak - Chat.. where?
#3894 [23:32] <freak> \
#3895 [23:32] <freak> on any server
#3896 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> freak - If you press T, do you get a chat box?
#3897 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> DrSigmaFruit - Run the server, pastebin.com the server.log?
#3898 [23:33] * |Kiikun| facepalms
#3898 [23:33] <DrSigmaFruit> server.log
#3899 [23:33] <freak> yes then when i chat it gives me error message cant send that chat message
#3900 [23:33] <DrSigmaFruit> Is the one in the same folder in the server launcher right?
#3901 [23:33] <DrSigmaFruit> The text file
#3902 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> right
#3903 [23:34] <|Kiikun|> freak: you joining servers that have some sort of chat block functionality maybe?
#3904 [23:34] <freak> no its personal friend servers
#3905 [23:34] <cestislife> It might be that you've set your Chat options to "Commands only" or something.
#3906 [23:35] <DrSigmaFruit> http://pastebin.com/4a48KPQy
#3907 [23:35] <freak> how did i do that
#3908 [23:35] <cestislife> freak, click on Options, when you press ESC.
#3909 [23:35] <|Kiikun|> Options -> Multiplayer Settings
#3910 [23:35] <cestislife> There is a Chat:(something)
#3911 [23:35] <cestislife> Change that to Chat:Shown
#3912 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> !check 99.238.148.221
#3913 [23:36] <|Kiikun|> firewall?
#3914 [23:36] <DrSigmaFruit> Been through it
#3915 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> Port forward looks right (provided the server is running right now, and the local ip is 1.101). So it's either a firewall, or something else.
#3916 [23:36] <DrSigmaFruit> Windows firewall completely off
#3917 [23:37] <freak> thx that was the problem
#3918 [23:37] <DrSigmaFruit> Oh
#3919 [23:37] <DrSigmaFruit> Wait
#3920 [23:37] <DrSigmaFruit> Never mind
#3921 [23:37] <freak> i didnt know that did that
#3922 [23:37] <DrSigmaFruit> I messed with my firewall
#3923 [23:37] <DrSigmaFruit> It works now
#3924 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> !check 99.238.148.221
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#3926 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it does
#3927 [23:37] <cestislife> Congrats!
#3928 [23:37] <DrSigmaFruit> Woo
#3929 [23:37] <DrSigmaFruit> Thanks everyone
#3930 [23:38] <freak> i thought that was like what shows in chat box
#3931 [23:38] <freak> yes
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#3933 [23:38] <cestislife> freak, it restricts your own chats as well.
#3934 [23:38] <cestislife> So it's better to keep that on "Shown"
#3935 [23:38] <freak> ok thanks
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#3940 [23:42] <asianrice> Recently, my minecraft has been running at around 12-15 fps and i was wondering if there is a way to fix it
#3941 [23:43] <cestislife> How much would it run previously?
#3942 [23:43] <cestislife> FPS-wise.
#3943 [23:43] <asianrice> actually it was quite awhile ago since i last played
#3944 [23:43] <asianrice> but it was around 120-200 fps
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#3946 [23:44] <Patrick_> Im haaving problems adding other players into my multiplier server, can you help me?
#3947 [23:44] <cestislife> Hmm, you might want to update Java or your graphic card drivers if you haven't already, asianrice
#3948 [23:45] <cestislife> Elaborate more, Patrick_
#3949 [23:45] <asianrice> my java is up to date and so is my graphics card
#3950 [23:46] <Patrick_> "cant reach server" i think, or server address is not working, when i try with localhost its working fine
#3951 [23:46] <cestislife> Of course it will work for localhost, as you're the one hosting Patrick_
#3952 [23:47] <cestislife> Did you port forward?
#3953 [23:47] <cestislife> asianrice, might want to delete the whole minecraft directory and reinstall from scratch, see if that works.
#3954 [23:47] <Patrick_> yes, i believe so
#3955 [23:47] <cestislife> What is your server IP then?
#3956 [23:47] <asianrice> yeah i just tried that a couple hours ago too... :/ didnt work
#3957 [23:48] <Patrick_> 173.66.207.166
#3958 [23:48] <asianrice> also tried to install optifine, but it lowered my fps instead of increasing it
#3959 [23:48] <cestislife> !check 173.66.207.166
#3960 [23:48] <cestislife> Apparently the server can be reached Patrick_
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#3962 [23:49] <cestislife> It shouldn't have a problem reaching.
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#3964 [23:49] <cestislife> asianrice, what OS are you on?
#3965 [23:49] <asianrice> Win 7
#3966 [23:50] <asianrice> 64 bit
#3967 [23:50] <Patrick_> thanks ill try again, the last time i tried it was hours ago
#3968 [23:50] <cestislife> You have 64 bit java installed yes?
#3969 [23:50] <asianrice> yes
#3970 [23:50] <cestislife> That is odd.
#3971 [23:50] <cestislife> Ive had this problem once where my FPS will never get pass 30 after I did a Windows Update.
#3972 [23:51] <cestislife> Reverted, and it went fine.
#3973 [23:51] <asianrice> really? o:
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#3975 [23:51] <cestislife> Indeed.
#3976 [23:51] <asianrice> i dont recall updating windows though
#3977 [23:51] <Guest94095> i bought minecraft on one account had to uninstall it made a new account and i now cant merge my old account with my new on. what should i do
#3978 [23:51] <cestislife> Hmm.
#3979 [23:51] <lexi1121> cannot connect server when joining a group
#3980 [23:51] <cestislife> Did you try defragmenting your disks?
#3981 [23:51] <Guest94095> what is that
#3982 [23:51] <asianrice> no.. ill go try it now (:
#3983 [23:52] <Guest94095> hello answer my question please
#3984 [23:52] <cestislife> Guest94095, you cannot merge minecraft accounts.
#3985 [23:52] <cestislife> Also, be patient
#3986 [23:52] <cestislife> I'm, apparently, the only one here.
#3987 [23:52] <cestislife> lexi1121, elaborate more please?
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#3989 [23:53] <Guest94095> muffins can fly
#3990 [23:53] <lexi1121> when i join a lan mine craft gets timed out when connecting to the server
#3991 [23:53] <asianrice> while im defragging is there anything else i can try to do?
#3992 [23:54] <Patrick_> one more quick question what exactly do i type to add a player to my whitelist, or do i not need to do that?
#3993 [23:54] <cestislife> Well, if you have older versions of java installed, might be worth uninstalling them, asianrice
#3994 [23:54] <cestislife> Patrick_, the ingame command for opping is /o (playername)
#3995 [23:54] <asianrice> alrite thanks ill check now (:
#3996 [23:55] <cestislife> Er, Patrick_, sorry it's /op (playername)
#3997 [23:55] <Patrick_> thanks!
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#3999 [23:57] <lexi1121> when i click on a lan and join the server in multiple players mine craft continues to get time out.
#4000 [23:57] <asianrice> uhm is there a difference between java and java se development kit?
#4001 [23:57] <cestislife> lexi1121: Are you trying to connect to a LAN game, or an online multiplayer game?
#4002 [23:57] <lexi1121> lan game
#4003 [23:58] <cestislife> asianrice, yes, the Java SDK is for development purposes, though it does package the JRE, the runtime environment.
#4004 [23:58] <cestislife> You shouldn't need the SDK if you don't plan to do much with java development.
#4005 [23:58] <asianrice> okay ill get rid of that one then thanks again
#4006 [23:58] <cestislife> lexi1121, is the game you're trying to connect to, on the same network?
#4007 [23:58] <lexi1121> yes
#4008 [23:59] <cestislife> Can you try a direct connect? Ask for the IP and Port the game shows when the computer you're trying to connect to Opens up to Lan.
#4009 [23:59] <cestislife> It'll be in this format
#4010 [23:59] <cestislife> IP:PORT