#MinecraftHelp > 2013-02-03
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#10 [00:24] <wakedragon> my minecraft continues to crash
#11 [00:24] <wakedragon> ...
#12 [00:24] <wakedragon> can anyone help me?
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#16 [00:28] <Chip> I had to reload Windows XP on my Dell D630 and now Minecraft won't work. OpenGL Error. I have updated my graphics drivers using the Intel 965 drivers which support OpenGL but Minecraft still gives me the error. Advice?
#17 [00:30] <Chip> Here is the error I am getting. I am pretty sure the drivers I have installed support OpenGL. -> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#18 [00:30] <Chip> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
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#63 [02:39] <Nate_> So, I just bought the game, started playing...it was working okay for a little while and then its started glitching and acting stupid. I can't dig or anything on there. My roomate is a long time player and can't figure out if I had a bad download or what.
#64 [02:40] <Nate_> Ill create a new world and I can move around but cant gather resources because I can't hit anything. Sometimes when I spawn, I can't move at all or my health starts dropping
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#77 [04:02] <Delta3DHD> GreyVulpine > You're still on here? :P
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#80 [04:23] <neox> hello I have a problem I can not play multiplayer makes me can not reach the server on all servers I add I opened the ports disable firewall and antivirus I do is what to do thank you
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#82 [04:29] <neox> hello I have a problem I can not play multiplayer makes me can not reach the server on all servers I add I opened the ports disable firewall and antivirus I do is what to do thank you
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#85 [04:30] <Delta3DHD> neox > Is your client modded or cracked at al?
#86 [04:30] <neox> no official minecraft and serveur
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#92 [04:32] <Delta3DHD_> Neox > Sorry about that, my internet crashed, Can you tell me your answer again?
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#94 [04:35] <neox> i use minecraft official and official server
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#96 [04:37] <neox> i use minecraft official and official server
#97 [04:38] <Delta3DHD_> neox > Please update java see if that changes anything
#98 [04:38] <Delta3DHD_> ??< java
#99 [04:39] <Delta3DHD_> ??>neox java
#100 [04:39] <Delta3DHD_> ??> neox java
#101 [04:39] <VoxelHead> neox: (java) http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#102 [04:40] <neox> java is the new version
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#105 [04:43] <Z_E_lR_0> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Sorry :( Time: 02.02.13 19:07 Description: Exception in server tick loop java.lang.NullPointerException What to do?
#106 [04:43] <Andrio> ??> Z_E_lR_0 pastebin
#107 [04:43] <VoxelHead> Z_E_lR_0: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#108 [04:45] <Z_E_lR_0> http://pastebin.com/DJg4nmYb
#109 [04:45] <neox> delta3DHD i install java and in can't connect can't reach server again
#110 [04:47] <Delta3DHD_> neox > Have you installed any mods?
#111 [04:48] <neox> I installed forgemod mystcraft but I did like his ais desinstalled
#112 [04:49] <Delta3DHD_> neox > Try forceupdating your minecraft
#113 [04:49] <Delta3DHD_> ??> neox forceupdate
#114 [04:49] <VoxelHead> neox: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#115 [04:49] <VoxelHead> neox: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#116 [04:49] <neox> ok
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#118 [04:51] <neox> i updating minecraft always can't reach server
#119 [04:52] <Delta3DHD_> neox > I seem not able to resolve your problem
#120 [04:52] <Delta3DHD_> Damn, I have to go for a bit
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#123 [04:56] <Calinou> (ragequit)
#124 [04:56] <benhunter09> Ha
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#133 [05:39] <ewiechewie> i have paid but only has a blank screen when i play
#134 [05:39] <worldmc> ewiechewie, when does it ocur?
#135 [05:39] <Calinou> ewiechewie: what antivirus do you use?
#136 [05:40] <ewiechewie> it has never worked just have a black screen
#137 [05:40] <ewiechewie> i have a new laptop just got the standard anti virus that came with it
#138 [05:41] <Calinou> remove it.
#139 [05:41] <Calinou> (yes)
#140 [05:41] <worldmc> can you run the launcher?
#141 [05:41] <Calinou> again OEM crapware
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#144 [05:43] <ewiechewie> going try ans uninstall the anti virus
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#146 [05:45] <Calinou> if you need one, get something like avast (the free version is enough)
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#189 [08:07] <DetailedDust> hi there, i have minecraft on linux and whene i execute the jar file with the command java -jara minecraft.jar it work
#190 [08:08] <DetailedDust> btu when i click on the login button the screen began black and after few seconds a report appear
#191 [08:08] <DetailedDust> it is saved also in a sub directory of .minecraft
#192 [08:09] <DetailedDust> can i post the report for help?
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#195 [08:13] <MomaChat> Ive just installed minecraft, but when I open it, the screen is jumpy and I cant walk anywhere. I have set the settings in video to the lowest settings but no effect. I can punch what I can reach, but cannot move.
#196 [08:13] <dallasc22> I have downloaded minecraft to my laptop but when I click on it it will not run. I cant get it to run in my browser either, the screen just stays white
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#198 [08:14] <dallasc22> any help?
#199 [08:14] <Delta3DHD> dallasc22 > Please tell me your problem :)
#200 [08:15] <dallasc22> I have downloaded minecraft to my laptop and when I click on the icon it will not start, i also cant get it to run in my internet browser either
#201 [08:15] <MomaChat> Ive just installed minecraft, but when I open it, the screen is jumpy and I cant walk anywhere. I have set the settings in video to the lowest settings but no effect. I can punch what I can reach, but cannot move.
#202 [08:16] <Delta3DHD> dallasc22 > Is any error message popping up?
#203 [08:16] <Delta3DHD> Momachat > Destroy the block under you and you should be able to move, just a glitch within spawn
#204 [08:16] <dallasc22> nope nothing happens, I have even right clicked and hit run and still nothing
#205 [08:16] <MomaChat> ah. will try.right now
#206 [08:16] <Delta3DHD> dallasc22 > Have you right clicked and clicked on Run as Administrator?
#207 [08:16] <dallasc22> yes
#208 [08:17] <Delta3DHD> dallasc22 > You are clicking on the icon of the grass block, correct?
#209 [08:17] <dallasc22> yes
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#211 [08:18] <Delta3DHD> dallasc22 > Right click the icon and go to properties, in the menu that pops up, tell me the file location
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#213 [08:18] <YinTaiYang> help...
#214 [08:18] <YinTaiYang> there is a hacker on my server
#215 [08:18] <YinTaiYang> he keeps hacking the admin's accounts
#216 [08:18] <Delta3DHD> YinTaiYang > Have you banned him?
#217 [08:18] <dallasc22> C:\Users\Kateena\Desktop
#218 [08:18] <YinTaiYang> Yes
#219 [08:18] <YinTaiYang> he just unbans himself and then continues
#220 [08:19] <Delta3DHD> YinTaiYang > I would stop the server for a day or so and he will get bored and just go away
#221 [08:19] <YinTaiYang> i did
#222 [08:19] <YinTaiYang> it's been going on for 2 weeks
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#225 [08:19] <Delta3DHD> dallasc22 > Is the C:/Users/Kateena/Desktop in the box that says Target: ?
#226 [08:19] <YinTaiYang> his name is BlackCPPS if you might know him
#227 [08:20] <Morrolan> There is no way to "hack op".
#228 [08:20] <Delta3DHD> YinTaiYang > Is it your personal server or a server hosting company?
#229 [08:20] <Morrolan> It is either a malicious plugin, or him knowing your admin's password...
#230 [08:20] <YinTaiYang> Hosting company
#231 [08:20] <dallasc22> I dont see a box that says target?
#232 [08:20] <YinTaiYang> I already told them
#233 [08:20] <YinTaiYang> They told me to change my password
#234 [08:20] <YinTaiYang> It's not working
#235 [08:20] <Delta3DHD> YinTaiYang > Message your hosting company requesting an IP Change
#236 [08:20] <Delta3DHD> So then he will not have the server IP
#237 [08:21] <Morrolan> What use would an IP change be....
#238 [08:21] <Morrolan> You still have to publish the new IP, in order for your players to join.
#239 [08:21] <YinTaiYang> he'll just find it again o.o
#240 [08:21] <Morrolan> Again, it is either malicious plugins, or him having access to the corresponding Minecraft account. (Or the actual server)
#241 [08:21] <YinTaiYang> i don't know how that would work
#242 [08:22] <Delta3DHD> YinTaiYang > I don't really know any way to stop him then, He could also be using a proxy, voiding the ip bans
#243 [08:22] <Delta3DHD> dallasc22 > Have you got the latest java?
#244 [08:22] <dallasc22> yes
#245 [08:22] <Morrolan> Change your Minecraft password, change the password of the control panel which you are using to control the server, change the password of the shell user if you've got one, wipe all plugins, reinstall the server.
#246 [08:23] <YinTaiYang> i already did that...
#247 [08:23] <YinTaiYang> he just hacked me again
#248 [08:23] <Morrolan> I don't believe you.
#249 [08:23] <Morrolan> Or you've got a keylogger on your computer.
#250 [08:23] <YinTaiYang> i wouldn't come here if i tried everything i could...
#251 [08:23] <Delta3DHD> dallasc22 > Reinstall java and that should help
#252 [08:23] <Delta3DHD> ??> dallasc22 java
#253 [08:23] <VoxelHead> dallasc22: (java) http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#254 [08:23] <YinTaiYang> the password i have on the control panel is 60+ chars...
#255 [08:24] <YinTaiYang> i even just made it 90+ recently
#256 [08:24] <YinTaiYang> it won't stop him
#257 [08:24] <Delta3DHD> Is the server up?
#258 [08:24] <dallasc22> ok, trying now
#259 [08:25] <Delta3DHD> YinTaiYang > Is the server up?
#260 [08:26] <YinTaiYang> no
#261 [08:26] <YinTaiYang> he worldedit the world to death
#262 [08:26] <Delta3DHD> YinTaiYang > Put up the server and give me the IP and I will see what I can do
#263 [08:26] <YinTaiYang> and now the world is covered with tnt that is exploding 24/7
#264 [08:26] <YinTaiYang> causing it to crash every time it launches
#265 [08:26] <Delta3DHD> Any world backups?
#266 [08:26] <YinTaiYang> yeah
#267 [08:27] <Delta3DHD> Back it up and let me join with OP and Gamemode creative, I will see what I can do with him
#268 [08:27] <YinTaiYang> it's not happening right now
#269 [08:27] <YinTaiYang> this is after it happened already
#270 [08:27] <YinTaiYang> he's been doing it but idk how it's working out
#271 [08:27] <[JD]> change hosting companies - might be an employee
#272 [08:27] <DetailedDust> hi there, i have minecraft on linux and whene i execute the jar file with the command java -jara minecraft.jar it work but when i click on the login button the screen began black and after few seconds a report appear
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#274 [08:27] <YinTaiYang> [JD] i was starting to consider that
#275 [08:27] <YinTaiYang> maybe i should
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#277 [08:28] <Delta3DHD> You could try whitelisting the server and making people apply to join
#278 [08:28] <YinTaiYang> delta I ipbanned him and he was able to unban himself
#279 [08:29] <[JD]> and if so any passwords you used on that server that you use on other accounts you might want to change too
#280 [08:29] <YinTaiYang> i think he'd be able to whitelist himself doing the same thing
#281 [08:29] <Delta3DHD> IPbans are useless, he can just use a proxy
#282 [08:32] <YinTaiYang> hey delta
#283 [08:32] <YinTaiYang> about what you said earlier
#284 [08:32] <YinTaiYang> what exactly were you planning to do?
#285 [08:32] <YinTaiYang> maybe i could do it myself some time
#286 [08:32] <Delta3DHD> I was just gonna try talking to him telling him theres no point and he doesn't achieve anything + trying to /jail him and stuff
#287 [08:35] <DetailedDust> there, i have minecraft on linux and whene i execute the jar file with the command java -jara minecraft.jar it work but when i click on the login button the screen began black and after few seconds a report appear anybody can help me?
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#289 [08:36] <Delta3DHD> DetailedDust > Have you got any mods installed
#290 [08:36] <DetailedDust> no nothing mods yet
#291 [08:37] <Delta3DHD> Hmm, I can't seem to help you further then as for I am not knowledgeable about linux
#292 [08:37] <DetailedDust> ok thank
#293 [08:37] <DetailedDust> s
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#298 [08:48] <Thynis> (Thynis) Hi everyone, please forgive me if this question has already been asked/answered. I started playing Minecraft Pocket Edition on my Nexus a few days ago. While building my first house tonight I noticd that i cannot create stone slabs. In fact, the only slabs thay i can build is wooden. The ability to build stone slabs, brick slabs, stone blocks, stone stairs, etcetera is no longer available. Am i doing something wrong? Co
#299 [08:49] <cestislife> Thynis, you need a block called "Stonecutter" or something.
#300 [08:49] <cestislife> It's crafted using 8 pieces of cobblestone, I think
#301 [08:49] <cestislife> That's where you craft the new slabs/stairs
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#303 [08:50] <cestislife> Read more here, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Stonecutter
#304 [08:50] <yrt> hfgfifhf
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#306 [08:50] <Thynis> Ah ha! I knew i had to be doing something wrong. Thank you so much. Was starting to lose my mind!
#307 [08:50] <cestislife> I was confused as well, haha.
#308 [08:52] <Thynis> I built a few the other night.... But then I took some Ambien to goto sleep. Poof! Memory gone.
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#312 [09:01] <DylanCl> Hello, I'm currently on ubuntu, and when launching minecraft I get a black screen.
#313 [09:01] <DylanCl> I use OpenJDK to launch it
#314 [09:02] <Bobbo> DylanCl: Is that after you log in from the launcher?
#315 [09:03] <DylanCl> Yes.
#316 [09:03] <Bobbo> Mhmm
#317 [09:03] <DylanCl> I was playing with the snapshot o3a fine before
#318 [09:04] <DylanCl> But then I forced updated to play on 1.4.7
#319 [09:04] <Bobbo> Oh.
#320 [09:04] <Bobbo> Delete ~/.minecraft/bin and ~/.minecraft/resources and then update again?
#321 [09:05] <DylanCl> Already did that
#322 [09:05] <Bobbo> Mhmmm.
#323 [09:05] <DylanCl> Even deleted the whole .minecraft folder
#324 [09:05] <Bobbo> Tried seeing if stdout gives anything useful... Which I doubt. XD
#325 [09:05] <Bobbo> ?
#326 [09:06] <DylanCl> what is stdout?
#327 [09:06] <Bobbo> It's the output you get in a terminal when you run from there (usually... Depends on the program).
#328 [09:06] <Bobbo> Just open up a terminal and do java -jar ~/minecraft_launcher.jar
#329 [09:07] <DylanCl> Unable to access jarfile /home/dylancomputer/minecraft_launcher.jar
#330 [09:07] <Bobbo> Well...
#331 [09:07] <Bobbo> You were...
#332 [09:07] <Bobbo> Meant to replace the jar param with whereever your launcher is..
#333 [09:08] <DylanCl> Still unable to acces it
#334 [09:09] <Bobbo> Does it just say the same? :3
#335 [09:10] <DylanCl> Nope
#336 [09:10] <Bobbo> What does it say?
#337 [09:10] <DylanCl> Unable to access jarfile desktop/minecraft_launcher.jar
#338 [09:11] <Bobbo> Hurmm
#339 [09:11] <Bobbo> Well
#340 [09:11] <Bobbo> You sure that's the right directory...
#341 [09:11] <Bobbo> ? XD
#342 [09:12] <DylanCl> I think so
#343 [09:12] <DylanCl> Where is the default directory?
#344 [09:12] <DylanCl> In /home/ right?
#345 [09:13] <Bobbo> Your home directory by default. (/home/dylancomputer) for you.
#346 [09:14] <DylanCl> so it should be java -jar /home/dylancomputer/minecraft_launcher.jar
#347 [09:14] <DylanCl> And sorry if I'm annoying you with stupidness
#348 [09:14] <DylanCl> I'm kinda new to linux
#349 [09:14] <DylanCl> and my english isn't the best
#350 [09:15] <Bobbo> Dw about the 'new to linux' thing, I was a year or two ago. :)
#351 [09:15] <Bobbo> And yeah, ~ is just a shortcut to your home directory.
#352 [09:15] <Bobbo> But I dunno where you've got the launcher.
#353 [09:15] <Bobbo> It'll be wherever you saved it (~/Downloads, unless you moved it).
#354 [09:17] <DylanCl> tried downloads
#355 [09:17] <DylanCl> Didn't work
#356 [09:17] <Bobbo> When you run the launcher normally, how do you do it? XD
#357 [09:17] <DylanCl> I have it set on my desktop
#358 [09:17] <DylanCl> minecraft.jar
#359 [09:18] <DylanCl> I have it allowed to run as an executable
#360 [09:18] <Bobbo> java -jar /home/dynlancomputer/Desktop/minecraft.jar
#361 [09:19] <Bobbo> You *shouldn't* need the executable bit set... Or at least, you don't for craftbukkit. :P
#362 [09:19] <DylanCl> Craftbukkit?
#363 [09:19] <DylanCl> I just want to launch minecraft :P
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#365 [09:20] <Bobbo> I know.
#366 [09:20] <Bobbo> I think...
#367 [09:21] <DylanCl> java -jar /home/dylancomputer/Desktop/minecraft.jar <-- didn't work
#368 [09:21] <Bobbo> It's probably the JDK being smelly. Java... Is annoying.
#369 [09:21] <Bobbo> Why're you using the JDK anyway?
#370 [09:21] <DylanCl> Well
#371 [09:21] <DylanCl> When I first started using ubuntu
#372 [09:21] <DylanCl> I wanted to play minecraft
#373 [09:21] <DylanCl> didn't know how, looked at a youtube video
#374 [09:21] <DylanCl> told me to use OPenJDK
#375 [09:21] <DylanCl> and I was actually happy with it
#376 [09:22] <DylanCl> minecraft ran way smoother then on windows
#377 [09:24] <DylanCl> never really bothered to look for another way to run it
#378 [09:24] <Bobbo> That's called linux... It'd run faster on Debian. :P
#379 [09:24] <Bobbo> Lolderp, just realised you could probably just right click on the jar file on your desktop and select "Launch in terminal
#380 [09:24] <Bobbo> "
#381 [09:26] <DylanCl> Nope
#382 [09:26] <Bobbo> Bah
#383 [09:26] <DylanCl> oh wait
#384 [09:26] <DylanCl> just did it
#385 [09:27] <DylanCl> but it just opened Minecraft Launcher
#386 [09:27] <DylanCl> Where you can log in
#387 [09:27] <Bobbo> Bah.
#388 [09:27] <Bobbo> I
#389 [09:27] <Bobbo> >.<
#390 [09:27] <DylanCl> I'll try and get the snapshot again
#391 [09:27] <Bobbo> Sorry, I just dunno... It's easier when you can do it yourself, but in general I'm not to Java-savvy.
#392 [09:28] <DylanCl> I don't mind it
#393 [09:28] <DylanCl> I'm happy that you even bothered to help me
#394 [09:29] <Bobbo> I'm not sure why someone would suggest the JDK though.
#395 [09:30] <DylanCl> Hmm, it wont even work with the snapshot now
#396 [09:30] <DylanCl> I'll just restart ubuntu
#397 [09:30] <DylanCl> maybe that will help
#398 [09:30] <DylanCl> I doubt it
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#402 [09:34] <DylanCl> Well, restarting didn't help
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#405 [09:40] <JohnnyCL> I am not receiving the email verification, the email is correct, what can I do?
#406 [09:41] <DylanCl> wait
#407 [09:41] <Bobbo> Yes, DylanCl?
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#409 [09:41] <DylanCl> Can it be JWGL?
#410 [09:41] <DylanCl> Or LWJG
#411 [09:41] <DylanCl> LJWG*
#412 [09:42] <Bobbo> I don't even know what that is, heheh. That's that file in the bin dir isn't it?
#413 [09:42] <DylanCl> nvm
#414 [09:42] <DylanCl> it's not that
#415 [09:46] <JohnnyCL> :)
#416 [09:47] <JohnnyCL> I am not receiving the email verification, the email is correct, what can I do?
#417 [09:47] <JohnnyCL> I've been trying for two days now
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#419 [09:49] <DylanCl> Does somebody here have experience with ubuntu/linux?
#420 [09:49] <Bobbo> I do with linux... Just not java. :(
#421 [09:50] <DylanCl> I tried everything
#422 [09:50] <DylanCl> It just wont work
#423 [09:50] <Bobbo> You could try reinstalling java. XD
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#425 [09:50] <DylanCl> How?
#426 [09:50] <seifpic> Hello, I was told that this is something that should be posted to the mcapi jira: https://bukkit.atlassian.net/browse/BUKKIT-3386 So I did and the report got removed, why is that? It's a feature request for the API not the game
#427 [09:52] <DylanCl> Bobbo, is there a way to set ubuntu back to the time it was first launched?
#428 [09:52] <DylanCl> Maybe that will solve things
#429 [09:52] <Bobbo> DylanCl: Reinstall ubuntu... Which is annoying considering the time it takes to set up programs etc. :)
#430 [09:53] <Bobbo> As for reinstalling java... It depends how you installed it.
#431 [09:53] <DylanCl> Reinstall it from the site?
#432 [09:53] <DylanCl> or can I do it on terminal
#433 [09:53] <Bobbo> From the website, using a live CD or bootup flash drive, however you done it originally.
#434 [09:54] <DylanCl> really?
#435 [09:54] <DylanCl> I have the worst download speed
#436 [09:54] <DylanCl> so it's going to take ages
#437 [09:54] <Bobbo> Well, how did you install Ubuntu originally? :)
#438 [09:54] <seifpic> Any ideas about the report?
#439 [09:55] <DylanCl> I didn't use a disc or usb stick
#440 [09:55] <DylanCl> I think it installed itself automaticly
#441 [09:56] <Bobbo> Operating systems don't just install themselves just like that. XD
#442 [09:56] <DylanCl> I used the windows installer
#443 [09:56] <Bobbo> seifpic: Looks like it got rejected because it's a low level change.
#444 [09:56] <seifpic> Bobbo so there is no way to get it into the game?
#445 [09:57] <seifpic> I cannot release some of my bukkit plugin because of this
#446 [09:57] <Bobbo> seifpic: Well, yeah... Fix it in your plugin/get Mojang to fix it if it's related to Minecraft itself (and not caused by Bukkit). XD
#447 [09:58] <seifpic> its a minecraft client issue
#448 [09:58] <seifpic> it doesn't send any info about the number keys
#449 [09:58] <Bobbo> It's clientisde?
#450 [09:58] <seifpic> yep
#451 [09:58] <Bobbo> Then it's nothing to do with bukkit...
#452 [09:59] <seifpic> I know, but the client doesnt send the information to bukkit that is required to check if the number keys were pressed
#453 [09:59] <Bobbo> Then use spout.
#454 [09:59] <seifpic> That is a big no
#455 [09:59] <Bobbo> Or find another way to do something like what you want to do.
#456 [09:59] <DylanCl> If i download ubuntu 12.10, will it overide my current version (12.04)
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#458 [09:59] <seifpic> Bobbo there is no other way, that is why Im reporting this
#459 [10:00] <Bobbo> But it's not bukkit related.
#460 [10:00] <seifpic> its a simple fix really
#461 [10:00] <Bobbo> It's a Minecraft thing.
#462 [10:00] <seifpic> I reported it in the mcapi jira
#463 [10:00] <seifpic> and it got removed
#464 [10:00] <Bobbo> I dunno what mcapi jira is. :P
#465 [10:00] <Bobbo> But the link you gave is bukkit.
#466 [10:01] <zen> seifpic, use the official jira.. not the one for the API
#467 [10:01] <seifpic> Yes, I first posted it in the bukkit leaky system, then I was told to post it in the mcapi jira (minecraft API)
#468 [10:01] <Bobbo> DylanCl: I don't use Precise myself, but possibly... Depends on the install. :P
#469 [10:01] <seifpic> zen which jira?
#470 [10:01] <DylanCl> Hmm
#471 [10:01] <DylanCl> Is debian better for gaming?
#472 [10:01] <DylanCl> like, minecraft and such
#473 [10:01] <Bobbo> Err...
#474 [10:02] <zen> https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC
#475 [10:02] <Bobbo> I wouldn't recommend you installed Debian, DylanCl. XD
#476 [10:02] <seifpic> ok thanks, hopefully it's not removed from there
#477 [10:02] <zen> DylanCl, If you can get the graphics drivers to play nice
#478 [10:02] <zen> Ubuntu is debian...
#479 [10:02] <DylanCl> I'm on a laptop
#480 [10:02] <DylanCl> I just want to play minecraft :(
#481 [10:02] <Bobbo> zen: Seriously?
#482 [10:02] <DylanCl> It worked yesterday, why doesn't it work now
#483 [10:03] <DylanCl> Can I like, put my system a few days back? :P
#484 [10:03] <zen> Bobbo, yes, ubuntu is a debian variant
#485 [10:03] <Bobbo> zen: Variant != equals.
#486 [10:03] <Bobbo> That's like saying OSX Lion is Darwin.
#487 [10:03] <zen> Ubuntu is based of debian...
#488 [10:04] <Bobbo> Ya, it's a fork.
#489 [10:04] <Bobbo> It's not the same thing (like you just said).
#490 [10:04] <DylanCl> I'm just going to install 12.10 and hope for the best
#491 [10:04] <DylanCl> Lets hope it overrides 12.04
#492 [10:04] <Bobbo> DylanCl: Depending on how you do it, might effect how it happens.
#493 [10:04] <zen> As far as the kernal is concerened its debian
#494 [10:04] <DylanCl> Hmm
#495 [10:04] <DylanCl> In windows
#496 [10:05] <DylanCl> You can do a systme recovery
#497 [10:05] <Bobbo> Like... I can't remember... The apt command... Because I never use it.
#498 [10:05] <Bobbo> XD
#499 [10:05] <DylanCl> and it puts it back to when it was first made
#500 [10:05] <DylanCl> can you do that in ubuntu?
#501 [10:05] <DylanCl> without installing it again
#502 [10:05] <zen> running the make update insife ubuntu will replace any changed files from 12.04 to the 12.10
#503 [10:05] <Bobbo> I dunno, never needed to use such a thing.
#504 [10:06] <DylanCl> zen, you look like you know things about linux
#505 [10:06] <DylanCl> When launching minecraft
#506 [10:06] <DylanCl> I just get a black screen
#507 [10:06] <zen> Update lwjgl
#508 [10:06] <DylanCl> Already did that
#509 [10:06] <DylanCl> well
#510 [10:06] <zen> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#511 [10:06] <zen> Make sure you replace the natives too
#512 [10:07] <DylanCl> the wiki told me to get 2.8.4
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#514 [10:07] <DylanCl> I did evertything the wiki said
#515 [10:07] <DylanCl> didn't do it
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#518 [10:07] <DylanCl> Do I also replace .jar files?
#519 [10:10] <DylanCl> wow
#520 [10:10] <DylanCl> I'm an idiot
#521 [10:10] <DylanCl> I also had to replace all the files in the bin directory
#522 [10:10] <Bobbo> Happens to the best of us, DylanCl. :3
#523 [10:10] <DylanCl> Well
#524 [10:10] <DylanCl> Thanks Zen and Bobbo for helping me
#525 [10:13] <DylanCl> Also
#526 [10:13] <DylanCl> In minecraft
#527 [10:14] <DylanCl> I need to press shift + 1/2/3/... to get an item
#528 [10:14] <DylanCl> is there a way to change it so I can justp ress 1 without shift
#529 [10:15] <zen> That might be your laptop, works fine here
#530 [10:16] <Bobbo> Sounds like an annoying laptop thing...
#531 [10:16] <DylanCl> I'm on a laptop, yeah.
#532 [10:16] <osuka_> that's your laptop config
#533 [10:17] <DylanCl> It worked fine on windows th
#534 [10:17] <DylanCl> tho*
#535 [10:17] <DylanCl> Untill i got a blue screen of death
#536 [10:17] <osuka_> I <3 BSOD
#537 [10:17] <DylanCl> I don't
#538 [10:17] <DylanCl> I really like windows
#539 [10:17] <DylanCl> Don't know how to fix it tho
#540 [10:18] <Delta3DHD> Hmm, I wonder how to dual os my pc
#541 [10:19] <seifpic> I think my report got deleted once again D:
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#543 [10:20] <zen> If you have windows istalled, linux should be able to resize the windows partion easily and install itself next to windows
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#546 [10:20] <zen> It will install grub for you as a boot manager
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#548 [10:22] <seifpic> zen, do you have any ideas? I think my report got deleted once again
#549 [10:23] <seifpic> Should I contact the jira admins?
#550 [10:24] <zen> I'm not exactly clear on what the problem is exactly, so i dont know
#551 [10:24] <seifpic> Here's what I posted:
#552 [10:25] <seifpic> Title: Item swapping using number keys not sent to server Environment: JRE 7 64 Bit, Windows 7 Home Premium
#553 [10:25] <seifpic> Description: When swapping items to the hotbar using the number keys, [Mouse Button|http://mc.kev009.com/Protocol#Click_Window_.280x66.29] is 0 when the number '1' is pressed and 1 when any other number is pressed. Also there is no way to detect if the number keys were used.
#554 [10:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> Delta3DHD: just dont try and install anything other than windows first, otherwise it will overwrite all other OSs
#555 [10:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> because why not
#556 [10:27] <Delta3DHD> Whereismyspoon > I am on windows already :)
#557 [10:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
#558 [10:27] <seifpic> Does Dinnerbone ever come on this irc?
#559 [10:27] <osuka_> never seen him her
#560 [10:27] <zen> He is active in other channels
#561 [10:27] <seifpic> like?
#562 [10:27] <osuka_> I never check the list, though
#563 [10:27] <osuka_> don't quote me on that
#564 [10:27] <zen> Most active in #minecraft on freenode though
#565 [10:28] <seifpic> should I contact him on that?
#566 [10:28] <osuka_> on what?
#567 [10:28] <Dinnerbone> seifpic, your report wasn't a bug
#568 [10:28] <zen> No
#569 [10:28] <zen> Well.. there you go
#570 [10:28] <Bobbo> Heh.
#571 [10:28] <seifpic> Dinnerbone I posted both on the mcapi and mc jiras
#572 [10:29] <Dinnerbone> mc is only for bugs. That isn't a bug.
#573 [10:29] <Bobbo> seifpic: Chances are, if he's already said it's not a bug, he doesn't care.
#574 [10:29] <zen> Lets leave him to his sunday shall we..
#575 [10:30] <seifpic> Anyway, is it going to be added? I cannot release one of my plugins (bukkit) to my server owner
#576 [10:30] <seifpic> because of that
#577 [10:30] <seifpic> Afaik it's a simple addition
#578 [10:30] <Bobbo> seifpic: Why not change your plugin?
#579 [10:31] <Dinnerbone> One which would make the inventory feel much laggier and less responsive
#580 [10:31] <seifpic> because theres no way to detect if the number keys were used from the server
#581 [10:31] <Bobbo> So why not change your plugin so you don't need to detect that?
#582 [10:32] <zen> The thing with mods is you have to find your way around such problems
#583 [10:32] <seifpic> Dinnerbone why would it make it much laggier? It's just one more variable that will be added (could even be added to Mouse button)
#584 [10:32] <DylanCl> Celebrating me playing minecraft: http://imgur.com/gallery/TPG1eoU/new
#585 [10:33] <seifpic> The fact that it sends mousebutton 0 when pressing '1' and 1 when pressing any other number is a bug imo
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#587 [10:33] <Dinnerbone> Actually, I just checked the code, it is sent
#588 [10:34] <DylanCl> Dinnerbone?
#589 [10:34] <DylanCl> He actually reads this irc
#590 [10:34] <seifpic> using which variable? Action number?
#591 [10:34] <Dinnerbone> If you believe there is a bug in bukkit disallowing you from accessing it, go report it to bukkit
#592 [10:34] <Dinnerbone> Do not spam the vanilla bugtracker with it
#593 [10:34] <Dinnerbone> In addition, this channel is not for help modding the game
#594 [10:34] <seifpic> I reported it in bukkit and I was told that it is a client issue
#595 [10:34] <seifpic> https://bukkit.atlassian.net/browse/BUKKIT-3386
#596 [10:35] <mtjaxter> Hey all, how do I make a SH file on Linux, to make it load a screen of minecraft_server.jar with a certain amount of ram. I've been reading wikis trying to do as they say and it always ends up wrong :(
#597 [10:35] <Dinnerbone> Imma go back to my weekend now
#598 [10:35] <seifpic> and that I should report it in the minecraft jira
#599 [10:35] <zen> DylanCl, he got highlighted here, so his attention was drawn here
#600 [10:35] <Delta3DHD> Dinnerbone, This probably isn't useful in this chat, but your active so, I was wondering. What OS do you use at mojang? :P
#601 [10:35] <DylanCl> Oh
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#603 [10:35] <DylanCl> That's not really nice
#604 [10:35] <Dinnerbone> Delta3DHD, whatever we want
#605 [10:35] <DylanCl> Can't everybody highlight him
#606 [10:35] <DylanCl> just to get his attention
#607 [10:35] <zen> DylanCl, yes, which is why we ask people not to
#608 [10:35] <Delta3DHD> Dinnerbone, Nice, is it like mutli-os installed?
#609 [10:35] <seifpic> Dinnerbone anyway thanks for replying
#610 [10:35] <DylanCl> Like people read rules... :P
#611 [10:36] <Bobbo> mtjaxter: Screen as in the terminal applic
#612 [10:36] <seifpic> Dinnerbone I will look into the code and try fixing it in bukkit as a PR or something
#613 [10:37] <DylanCl> Why did D*nnerbone remove the rapid dispenser trick
#614 [10:37] <DylanCl> With the comparator
#615 [10:37] <zen> Because it was considered a bug
#616 [10:38] <DylanCl> Didn't feel like a bug D:
#617 [10:39] <zen> There are things in the game that seem to occure for what ever reason even if they were not intended
#618 [10:39] <DylanCl> Ah well
#619 [10:39] <DylanCl> Can't have everything
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#621 [10:39] <DylanCl> Really hate the buffed bonemeal
#622 [10:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> mtjaxter: http://pastie.org/6033638 that would be a legit sh fiel for launching the server with max 1g min 500m of mem
#623 [10:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> *fie
#624 [10:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> file*
#625 [10:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> mtjaxter: if you want it in a screen, as in the actual `screen' application, then just put "screen" in front of the command
#626 [10:41] * Me4502 is now known as Me4502|Away
#627 [10:42] <DylanCl> Does somebody know the F3 command to show the item ID
#628 [10:43] <zen> Item IDs arent shown in the vanilla game
#629 [10:43] <DylanCl> Well
#630 [10:43] <DylanCl> there's an F3 command for it
#631 [10:43] <DylanCl> Like, F3+B shows the hitbox of a mob
#632 [10:43] <zen> Hmm maybe
#633 [10:43] <Bobbo> There are F3 commands? Cool.
#634 [10:44] <DylanCl> Yeah
#635 [10:44] <DylanCl> I just found the command to show it
#636 [10:44] <DylanCl> so nvm
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#638 [10:46] <Whitehawk1999> i cannot mine anything but dirt and wood
#639 [10:47] <DylanCl> White
#640 [10:47] <DylanCl> Are you new to the game?
#641 [10:47] <Whitehawk1999> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
#642 [10:47] <TheNoodle> Yeahhh, don't do that again please.
#643 [10:47] <Bobbo> new to IRC obviously.
#644 [10:48] <DylanCl> I need a server to play on
#645 [10:48] <Whitehawk1999> is there any thing i can do to fix it
#646 [10:49] <Bobbo> DylanCl: There are places on minecraft forums for that... IE, not here.
#647 [10:49] <DylanCl> you need advanced tools
#648 [10:49] <Bobbo> Whitehawk1999: Are you new to Minecraft?
#649 [10:49] <Whitehawk1999> yes
#650 [10:50] <DylanCl> I recommend watching lets plays on youtube if you're new
#651 [10:50] <DylanCl> Like seananners, or X
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#653 [10:50] <Bobbo> Use the wood to make a wooden axe and pickaxe, you can find how to do that on http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
#654 [10:51] <Whitehawk1999> well i know how to play
#655 [10:51] <Whitehawk1999> but it runs slow
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#657 [10:54] <zen> Then your PC probably isnt powerful enough to run the game at any decent framerate
#658 [10:55] <DylanCl> Get optifine
#659 [10:55] <osuka_> or a new system.
#660 [10:55] <Bobbo> Or nerf your graphic options (simple lighting, performance graphics, no particles, etc).
#661 [10:56] <osuka_> or all of these.
#662 [10:57] <Bobbo> If he got a new system, assuming it's good, he potentially doesn't need the others..
#663 [10:57] <Bobbo> Then again, this is Minecraft and java we're talking about, lolol.
#664 [10:57] <DylanCl> imagine minecraft in flash
#665 [10:58] <Bobbo> I can't.
#666 [10:58] <DylanCl> You could play like
#667 [10:58] <Bobbo> It wouldn't exist... Because someone killed the idiot who decided to do it.
#668 [10:58] <DylanCl> 2 seconds
#669 [10:58] <DylanCl> and then it would crash
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#677 [11:08] <confused> not sure that my downloaded properly
#678 [11:09] <confused> can you help
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#680 [11:10] <Bobbo> I think there are some words missing from your problem, confused.
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#682 [11:11] <confused> LOL ... I was unable to download from my link via email ...
#683 [11:11] <Bobbo> Download what?
#684 [11:12] <confused> i had to go to another link to download then my PC antivirus located Trojan and rebooted my puter... Minecraft
#685 [11:12] <confused> isnt this help for minecraft?
#686 [11:12] <Delta3DHD> confused > Hold on whilst i get you a link
#687 [11:13] <confused> unable to access the online play at log in ...
#688 [11:13] <Bobbo> Yeah, but I didn't know they emailed links. :P
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#690 [11:13] <Delta3DHD> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
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#692 [11:13] <Delta3DHD> There is the direct link to the minecraft download
#693 [11:13] <Bobbo> confused: What anitvirus.
#694 [11:14] <confused> Kaspersky
#695 [11:14] <wolf020904> Hi, my son can create blocks but not delet them. I have forced update but its still not working........any way I can fix this?
#696 [11:14] <Bobbo> Hah, add Minecraft.exe to it's acception list too.
#697 [11:15] <Delta3DHD> wolf020904 > Have you checked to make sure the keys are binded correctly in the options?
#698 [11:15] <wolf020904> delta - how do I do that?
#699 [11:15] <Bobbo> wolf020904: Look at "controls" in options. :3
#700 [11:15] <Delta3DHD> wolf020904 > Whislt in game, Press Esc, Go to options, then controls, You will see where to go from there.
#701 [11:15] <confused> ok, now, I purchased this online and they sent me a link to email to download and that wouldnt work ... so, i should prolly delete what I have and then use this link to re-download?
#702 [11:18] <wolf020904> Ok, I went to controls and it all seems to be normal.......he tried and cannot delete blocks. ?
#703 [11:18] <Delta3DHD> Is he holding down the button to destroy blocks?
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#705 [11:19] <wolf020904> he is not holding down button, he uses the mouse and clicks
#706 [11:19] <Bobbo> You gotter hold it down, breaking blocks takes time
#707 [11:19] <Delta3DHD> He needs to look at the block, and hold down the click
#708 [11:21] <wolf020904> he is doing that and it doesnt work. he can build but not delete
#709 [11:21] <confused> Bobbo, r u still here
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#711 [11:22] <Bobbo> confused: Ya
#712 [11:22] <confused> the link Delta3dhd sent will NOT download
#713 [11:22] <Delta3DHD> It should. Hmmm.... :/
#714 [11:22] <haz> i cannot log in since buying this for my son
#715 [11:22] <haz> can anyone help
#716 [11:22] <Bobbo> confused: Why not?
#717 [11:22] <wolf020904> any other suggestions?
#718 [11:23] <confused> thats y im here ... I paid money for this game and not working
#719 [11:23] <haz> doi need to contact minecraft direct
#720 [11:23] <Bobbo> confused: Just telling me "will not download" is as useful as you not telling me anything at all.
#721 [11:23] <Bobbo> confused: I need something to work on it.
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#724 [11:24] <confused> im not able to copy/paste my error message, only asks me to retry and I do over and over and wont work
#725 [11:24] <Bobbo> Retry what?
#726 [11:25] <confused> download ... is there a private room... all these ppl make it confusing
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#728 [11:25] <Delta3DHD> Confused, Bobbo, do /join #private
#729 [11:25] <Spidi> Me and my friend are having a `problem in the xbox edition, the minerals blocks don´t drop items. We reinstalled the game but nothing change
#730 [11:26] <Delta3DHD> Spidi > Are you getting them with the pick?
#731 [11:26] <Bobbo> Delta3DHD: I'm not IRC newb, I pm'd him. XD
#732 [11:26] <Spidi> yes
#733 [11:26] <Delta3DHD> Bobbo, I know, It is just easy doing /join #private
#734 [11:27] <Delta3DHD> Spidi > I have never experienced your problem :P
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#736 [11:27] <Spidi> we are in survival mode and it seems we are in creative with the blocks
#737 [11:28] <Spidi> i don´t know how to fix this
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#743 [11:32] <wolf020904> hi, we can build blocks but not delete them. I have forced update but it still doesnt work. Help!
#744 [11:33] <Brian> so i just bought and downloaded minecraft a day ago and every time i try to log in on the launch pad all it says is "login failed (not downloaded) so i checked my .minecraft folder but there is nothing in there please help!
#745 [11:33] <Delta3DHD> Brian > Please forceupdate your minecraft
#746 [11:33] <Delta3DHD> ??> Brian forceupdate
#747 [11:33] <VoxelHead> Brian: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#748 [11:33] <VoxelHead> Brian: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#750 [11:34] <Brian> i already tried to force update
#751 [11:34] <wolf020904> voxel - why cant i delete blocks?
#752 [11:34] <wolf020904> I forced update but still cant delete
#753 [11:34] <Delta3DHD> Brian > Delete the folder and shortcut and redownload
#754 [11:34] <Delta3DHD> ??< voxelbot
#755 [11:35] <Brian> okay i will try that
#756 [11:35] <wolf020904> can somebody help me?
#757 [11:35] <wolf020904> I cant delet blocks
#758 [11:35] <Calinou> wolf020904: hold left mouse button?
#759 [11:35] <Calinou> in multiplayer you can't edit anything near the spawn point
#760 [11:35] <wolf020904> we have tried holding left moust button :)
#761 [11:36] <Calinou> make sure "attack" is set to "MOUSE1" in the controls
#762 [11:36] <Calinou> mouse1 is left mouse button, mouse2 right, mouse3 is middle
#763 [11:37] <erzuz> hallo, my old computer crashed during I played Minecraft. Now I don´t see my created world neither my downloaded texture pack on any other computer in my account.
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#765 [11:39] <erzuz> ?
#766 [11:41] <Gone_Ralex> erzuz, stuff that like is stored on that one computer
#767 [11:41] <Gone_Ralex> are you using a different computer now?
#768 [11:42] <erzuz> yes
#769 [11:42] <Gone_Ralex> Data like that is stored locally, it is not uploaded anywhere
#770 [11:42] <Gone_Ralex> You have to manually transfer the data to the new computer if you want it
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#772 [11:43] <erzuz> thankyou. I hope I can restore the datas from my old computer.
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#780 [12:05] <kat> purchased minecraft, downloaded launcher, login and and nothing happens. Can you tell me what is going on?
#781 [12:06] <kat> Is there anyone here
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#783 [12:08] <kat> when I log in, it goes to a small screen green bar then all disappear, is there anyone that can help me with this
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#785 [12:12] <awesome_> I am trying to play and the screen is stuck on the loading. says its done but the screen doesnt change
#786 [12:13] <awesome_> is anyone there?
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#788 [12:14] <awesome_> can anyone help me?
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#790 [12:17] <awesome_> hello
#791 [12:17] <awesome_> can anyone help me?
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#793 [12:18] <Matt__> Hi I want to make a minecraft server
#794 [12:19] <Lilmau5ie> That's cool. I want to make a million dollars. :o
#795 [12:19] <Matt__> Please help me
#796 [12:20] <Matt__> help me
#797 [12:20] <Matt__> help me
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#799 [12:20] <awesome_> I am trying to play and the screen says updating minecraft and the green bar is stuck but it says done loading..........any suggestions on what I can do?
#800 [12:21] <Gone_Ralex> awesome_, can you try to get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#803 [12:27] <Jim_> When i try to create a new world, when it loads my player shakes and i cant do anything.
#804 [12:28] <Jim_> ???
#805 [12:29] <Jim_> What do i do?
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#809 [12:33] <Jim_> can you help me?
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#811 [12:36] <Calinou> no we can't
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#814 [12:38] <confused> hello... Bobbo, u still here
#815 [12:40] <Brian> i downloaded and bought minecraft yesterday and i tried to launch it and it said login failed not downloaded so i was told to uninstall and reinstall minecraft so i did so and now the launch pad wont even show up when i click on it
#816 [12:40] <confused> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe ... this link does NOT work ... Will Not allow a download ...
#817 [12:41] <confused> Brian, Im in the same boat
#818 [12:41] <Gone_Ralex> it is downloading for me
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#820 [12:41] <Gone_Ralex> do you have any AV installed? what browser?
#821 [12:42] <confused> I disabled the AV ... IE
#822 [12:42] <Gone_Ralex> ?? fubar/ie
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#824 [12:42] <Gone_Ralex> gah
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#826 [12:42] <Calinou> use a proper web browser like chromium :P
#827 [12:42] <Brian> i downloaded and bought minecraft yesterday and i tried to launch it and it said login failed not downloaded so i was told to uninstall and reinstall minecraft so i did so and now the launch pad wont even show up when i click on it
#828 [12:42] <Calinou> or firefox, or even opera
#829 [12:43] <Bobbo> Pros use Lynx.
#830 [12:43] <Gone_Ralex> yeah, basically IE is stupid
#831 [12:43] <Gone_Ralex> :P
#832 [12:43] <Gone_Ralex> it is highly suggested to use some other browser, IE does things it should not
#833 [12:43] <confused> its all i have
#834 [12:43] <Bobbo> IE also doesn't do things it should, like work.
#835 [12:43] <Gone_Ralex> ?? win/ie
#836 [12:43] <VoxelHead> win/ie: Internet Exploder^WExploiter^WExplorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#837 [12:43] <VoxelHead> win/ie: Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome
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#840 [12:44] <confused> I shouldnt have to download something different just to play a game ...
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#842 [12:45] <SpyDuck> why does my minecraft say Not responding i try to re-download and the same
#843 [12:45] <Bobbo> Good luck saying that to Microsoft with Windows 8 on the way.
#844 [12:45] <Gone_Ralex> Bobbo, on the way?
#845 [12:45] <Bobbo> Well.
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#847 [12:45] <Bobbo> It's not on the way so much any more. :)
#848 [12:45] <Gone_Ralex> SpyDuck, when does it say that?
#849 [12:45] <SpyDuck> now its frozen on the main menu
#850 [12:45] <Bobbo> It won't be long before they stop selling Vista/7.
#851 [12:46] <Gone_Ralex> Bobbo, i just got a key, all i need :P
#852 [12:46] <SpyDuck> and i entered yesterday,there were no NPC's,monsters,no sound
#853 [12:46] <SpyDuck> WHY?
#854 [12:46] <Gone_Ralex> SpyDuck, no mods, correct?
#855 [12:46] <SpyDuck> no mods
#856 [12:46] <Bobbo> Gone_Ralex: I got linux, I don't need a key? :)
#857 [12:46] <Gone_Ralex> Bobbo, same, just no games on linux (for now)
#858 [12:46] <Gone_Ralex> SpyDuck, so it is freezing now?
#859 [12:47] <SpyDuck> its
#860 [12:47] <SpyDuck> frozen on the main menu
#861 [12:47] <Bobbo> Gone_Ralex: There are plenty of games on linux. :P
#862 [12:47] <Gone_Ralex> Bobbo, soon will be, steam beta linux client :P
#863 [12:47] <SpyDuck> and says not responding next to minecraft logo
#864 [12:47] <Gone_Ralex> SpyDuck, main menu being the one after you logged in, correct?
#865 [12:47] <Bobbo> I saw... I tried to install it and it told me I had the wrong CPU arcitecture... XD
#866 [12:48] <SpyDuck> ya
#867 [12:48] <Gone_Ralex> SpyDuck, let's try getting a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#868 [12:48] <Gone_Ralex> option 2 might be better to use
#869 [12:48] <SpyDuck> ok
#870 [12:48] <Bobbo> But there are a lot of games which are awesome, like Star Control II, Gone_Ralex.
#871 [12:48] <Bobbo> And most games will run okay in wine, sure some need a poke or two with winetricks or such, but with WineHQ, that's not hard to find out what to do. :P
#872 [12:49] <SpyDuck> i re-download 3 times and it just enters like i already have minecraft installed
#873 [12:49] <Gone_Ralex> Bobbo, too much work .-.
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#875 [12:49] <SpyDuck> is that the problem?
#876 [12:49] <Bobbo> Lol.
#877 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> ??> SpyDuck win/reinst
#878 [12:49] <Bobbo> Gone_Ralex: Play Star Control II at least. :)
#879 [12:49] <VoxelHead> SpyDuck: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#880 [12:49] <SpyDuck> ya
#881 [12:49] <VoxelHead> SpyDuck: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#882 [12:49] <SpyDuck> i redownload minecraft.exe
#883 [12:49] <SpyDuck> and before that i uninstalled everything
#884 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> Which is just the launcher.
#885 [12:49] <Gone_Ralex> Bobbo, amd gpu
#886 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft actually stores its files elsewhere
#887 [12:50] <Gone_Ralex> Bobbo, now stop with ot, we have people to help
#888 [12:50] <SpyDuck> i dont have
#889 [12:50] <SpyDuck> .minecraft...
#890 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> Then you wouldn't be able to play minecraft
#891 [12:50] <SpyDuck> ya
#892 [12:50] <SpyDuck> wtf
#893 [12:50] <SpyDuck> why dont i have it
#894 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> You do have it.
#895 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> If you look in the right place
#896 [12:50] <SpyDuck> i had all my texture packs there
#897 [12:50] <SpyDuck> yesterday
#898 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#899 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> ??> SpyDuck win/reinst
#900 [12:51] <VoxelHead> SpyDuck: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#901 [12:51] <VoxelHead> SpyDuck: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#902 [12:51] <SpyDuck> ok found .minecraft was not in appdata
#903 [12:51] <SpyDuck> not it is
#904 [12:51] <SpyDuck> and still i cant play
#905 [12:51] <SpyDuck> i try 1 more time
#906 [12:52] <Gone_Ralex> if it is not in the appdata, then that is the folder it is loading, unless you use a custom launcher
#907 [12:52] <SpyDuck> why dont i have the classic texture installed?
#908 [12:52] <SpyDuck> god damnit
#909 [12:52] <Gone_Ralex> classic texture?
#910 [12:52] <SpyDuck> no saves either...
#911 [12:52] <SpyDuck> ya
#912 [12:52] <SpyDuck> classic
#913 [12:53] <SpyDuck> the one you get withn the game
#914 [12:53] <Gone_Ralex> that is default
#915 [12:53] <SpyDuck> no saves
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#917 [12:53] <SpyDuck> ok default what ever
#918 [12:53] <Gone_Ralex> and that is in the jar itself
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#920 [12:53] <SpyDuck> ok i install the launcher again
#921 [12:53] <SpyDuck> hopr for the best
#922 [12:54] <SpyDuck> if not ill just stick to lol
#923 [12:54] <Gone_Ralex> the launcher will not do anything, you have to either force update or delete the bin folder in the .minecraft folder
#924 [12:54] <SpyDuck> ok
#925 [12:54] <SpyDuck> so delete JUST the bin
#926 [12:55] <SpyDuck> or the entire .minecraft
#927 [12:55] <Gone_Ralex> if you delete the .minecraft, you will lose saves and texture packs
#928 [12:55] <Gone_Ralex> if you delete the bin, you keep those saves and texture packs you have installed
#929 [12:55] <SpyDuck> i dont have any...
#930 [12:55] <SpyDuck> the are al gone...
#931 [12:56] <SpyDuck> all*
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#933 [12:58] <SpyDuck> its updating
#934 [12:58] <SpyDuck> maybe it works
#935 [12:59] <SpyDuck> nope
#936 [12:59] <SpyDuck> not working
#937 [12:59] <SpyDuck> ill just stick to lol
#938 [12:59] <Gone_Ralex> define not working
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#940 [12:59] <Gone_Ralex> .-.
#941 [12:59] * GreyVulpine snrks
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#945 [13:07] <Wug> Gone_Ralex: some people need to help themselves before others can help too
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#948 [13:08] <GamerDude1213> Hey, is there any way I can change my username, WITHOUT deleteing my profile?
#949 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#950 [13:08] <GamerDude1213> I don't really like it.
#951 [13:08] <Wug> GamerDude1213: right now neither is possible
#952 [13:08] <GamerDude1213> There isn't? You sure?
#953 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> We are
#954 [13:08] <GamerDude1213> Ok.
#955 [13:08] <GamerDude1213> tThank you for the help.
#956 [13:08] <Wug> it's a planned feature for sometime in the future
#957 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2013/02/out_of_stock_firearms_ammo_sal.html#incart_river
#958 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> er
#959 [13:09] <GamerDude1213> I have another question.
#960 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/928638-minecraft-usernames
#961 [13:09] <Gone_Ralex> GreyVulpine, lol
#962 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Whoops. Heh
#963 [13:09] <Wug> but theres no date for it at this point
#964 [13:09] <GamerDude1213> It is, Is Herobrine real? I think I have seen "Him".
#965 [13:09] <Wug> nope
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#967 [13:09] <Wug> never has been
#968 [13:09] <GamerDude1213> My friend claims she has seen him.
#969 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Santa's real, I've seen him!
#970 [13:10] <Gone_Ralex> He has not existed, any claims of seeing them are though mods
#971 [13:10] <GamerDude1213> I have seen him, and his family on the XBOX360 Minecraft.
#972 [13:10] <Gone_Ralex> or though your imagination, or lying
#973 [13:10] <GamerDude1213> I think it was my imagination.
#974 [13:10] <Gone_Ralex> It was
#975 [13:10] <Wug> i once edited a texture pack so zombies had the archetypical herobrine skin
#976 [13:10] <GamerDude1213> Ok.
#977 [13:10] <GamerDude1213> Lol.
#978 [13:10] <Wug> then trolled mcf with them
#979 [13:10] <GamerDude1213> tThat is funny.
#980 [13:10] <GamerDude1213> Thank you for the help, and bye.
#981 [13:10] <Wug> but yeah
#982 [13:10] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, really now, still got a link to it?
#983 [13:11] <GamerDude1213> Thank you!!
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#985 [13:11] <Wug> Gone_Ralex: oh hold on a minute
#986 [13:11] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, so i can burn... i mean look at it
#987 [13:11] <Calinou> c<GamerDude1213> My friend claims she has seen him.
#988 [13:11] <Calinou> DSK != herobrine
#989 [13:11] <Calinou> </bad joke>
#990 [13:11] <Calinou> </terrible joke>
#991 [13:12] <Wug> you wouldnt see it anyway
#992 [13:12] <Wug> the image link is broken
#993 [13:12] <Gone_Ralex> oh
#994 [13:12] <Wug> the post looks benign
#995 [13:12] <Gone_Ralex> still
#996 [13:12] <Wug> also im pretty sure it was from before you were a mod
#997 [13:12] <Gone_Ralex> so?
#998 [13:13] <Wug> whats the word for it ...
#999 [13:13] <Gone_Ralex> doesn't mean i still cannot look at it .-.
#1000 [13:13] * Gone_Ralex resorts to finding it by hand
#1000 [13:13] <Wug> ex post facto! thats it
#1001 [13:14] <Gone_Ralex> gah, difficulty of finding it has risen dramtically
#1002 [13:14] <Wug> yeah
#1003 [13:15] <Wug> not impossible, but the search space is very large
#1004 [13:15] <Gone_Ralex> not really
#1005 [13:15] <Gone_Ralex> just have ot find your account
#1006 [13:15] <Wug> that would be easy, if it was called wug
#1007 [13:15] <Gone_Ralex> called acp
#1008 [13:15] <Gone_Ralex> :P
#1009 [13:15] <Wug> or if id used it in a year
#1010 [13:15] <Gone_Ralex> oh .-.
#1011 [13:16] <Gone_Ralex> well, that makes it harder >_>
#1012 [13:16] <Wug> or if the minecraft username it had on it was actually mine
#1013 [13:16] <Wug> :D
#1014 [13:17] <TheNoodle> Try searching for accounts from rit I guess :P
#1015 [13:17] <Gone_Ralex> i will find it
#1016 [13:17] <Wug> im sure none of the other several thousand students have logged in in the past year either
#1017 [13:17] <Gone_Ralex> eventually
#1018 [13:18] <Wug> theres also the fact that his sole means of identifying the account is that one of its posts has a broken image in it
#1019 [13:24] * Wug reads GreyVulpine's whoopsie link
#1019 [13:24] <Wug> ermagerd oberma is gonna take away the gurns
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#1026 [13:35] <Brian> i downloaded and bought minecraft a day ago and tried launching it and it said failed login not downloaded so i was told to deleate the shortcut and the .minecraft file then redownload. i did and now the launchpad wont even show up please help!
#1027 [13:36] <Brian> help!
#1028 [13:37] <Gone_Ralex> ??> Brian patience
#1029 [13:37] <VoxelHead> Brian: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1030 [13:37] <VoxelHead> Brian: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
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#1032 [13:40] <Wug> Brian: you are using your email address as the username right?
#1033 [13:40] <Brian> yes
#1034 [13:40] <Wug> can you log into the website with it>
#1035 [13:40] <Wug> ?
#1036 [13:40] <Brian> yes
#1037 [13:41] <Wug> whats your in game name? have you chosen one?
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#1040 [13:43] <Brian> i don't know the farthest i have got to is the launch pad in which i typed in my username and pasword and it said login failed not downloaded but since i deleated the shortcut and .minecraft file which was empty for some reason, i cant get back to the launch pad after i downloaded it again it just has a loading circle after i click on it and never does anything
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#1042 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Then that's a no, and you probably need to uninstall and reinstall java
#1043 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> And when you do that, log back into your mojang.com account and make a minecraft profile
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#1045 [13:44] <gacktbunny> hi
#1046 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Hello
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#1049 [13:46] <gacktbunny> hoping to get some help i cant get minecraft to connect to the internet
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#1051 [13:46] <Agent868> hi all, question about ssh to my minecraft server
#1052 [13:46] <Agent868> connect to the internet I might be able to help with that one
#1053 [13:46] <Agent868> is your minecraft on linux or windows box ?
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#1056 [13:47] <Wug> win7 x64
#1057 [13:47] <gacktbunny> what do i do to get it to work
#1058 [13:47] <Wug> gacktbunny: do you have a ! in your windows username
#1059 [13:47] <Bobbo> Agent868: What about SSH? :)
#1060 [13:47] <gacktbunny> no
#1061 [13:48] <Wug> gacktbunny: have you allowed minecraft through your firewalls? can you login to the website?
#1062 [13:48] <Agent868> oh about ssh, I have my box in my warehouse via port forward etc. working good, but I want to connect via ssh to change some property files sometimes
#1063 [13:48] <gacktbunny> yea
#1064 [13:48] <Bobbo> Agent868: And the problem is?
#1065 [13:48] <Agent868> the problem is that the minecraft terminal is already running, do I have to stop the minecraft server first and use another terminal ?
#1066 [13:49] <Agent868> cause I can't seem to access the terminal that is already open so I'm assuming I need to stop first then open and edit what I need then restart etc ?
#1067 [13:49] <Bobbo> Agent868: Win or linux box?
#1068 [13:49] <Gone_Ralex> you can use screen
#1069 [13:49] <Agent868> linux box
#1070 [13:49] <Wug> Agent868: the minecraft server does not respond to editing the config file while the server is running
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#1072 [13:49] <Bobbo> Agent868: Use screen.
#1073 [13:49] <Agent868> ok that part I did know
#1074 [13:49] <Wug> so yes, you have to restart it for changes to take effect
#1075 [13:49] <Agent868> but accessing that open terminal ? I'm assuming I need to do that right ?
#1076 [13:50] <Bobbo> screen -dmS minecraft java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar minecraft/craftbukkit.jar
#1077 [13:50] <Bobbo> Something like that will do.
#1078 [13:50] <Agent868> I can't just issue a shutdown command from another terminal can I ? then start again from another terminal ?
#1079 [13:50] <Bobbo> That'll start the server in the background.
#1080 [13:50] <Bobbo> And it'll inhibit it from dropping out on hang up.
#1081 [13:50] <Bobbo> http://ss64.com/bash/screen.html
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#1083 [13:50] <Wug> I believe you can stop it safely by sending it an INT signal
#1084 [13:50] <Brian> mlkngyudtrxhkml,';./
#1085 [13:50] <Agent868> thanks I'll read that
#1086 [13:51] <gacktbunny> i exit the game and try to connect but it wont
#1087 [13:51] <Wug> same as if you hit ctrl+c while its running
#1088 [13:51] <ghostsniper> I have a question about my server.
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#1090 [13:51] <Wug> im not 100% sure its safe
#1091 [13:51] <Bobbo> Agent868: After you've started it with the command I pasted, you can use "screen -list" to get a list of the current screen sessions running and then use "screen -r name" from the list to reattach it... Then you can enter commands and stuff like normal.
#1092 [13:52] <Wug> gacktbunny: so you can't connect to minecraft.net in a browser either?
#1093 [13:52] <Agent868> screen looks like I still need to go to the machine and detach it and not from the ssh
#1094 [13:52] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, that would not be safe
#1095 [13:52] <Wug> Gone_Ralex: I know it handles the signal, but I'm not sure how
#1096 [13:52] <Bobbo> Agent868: You run screen from the terminal. :P
#1097 [13:52] <ghostsniper> Can anyone help me with my issue of no one being able to connect to my server even after port forwarding?
#1098 [13:52] <Agent868> I was going to just use nano to edit instead of desktop sharing etc.
#1099 [13:52] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, don't think it would run the /stop if done like that
#1100 [13:52] <Wug> I know it _used_ to save the world and exit gracefully
#1101 [13:53] <Bobbo> Sending sigint to it will just kill it.
#1102 [13:53] <Wug> I dont know if it still does, or if bukkit does
#1103 [13:53] <Gone_Ralex> should be able to use rcon to stop it as well
#1104 [13:53] <Bobbo> Ya
#1105 [13:53] <gacktbunny> no
#1106 [13:53] <Wug> ??> gacktbunny win/hosts
#1107 [13:54] <VoxelHead> gacktbunny: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1108 [13:54] <Agent868> wish there was a terminal share instead of desktop share
#1109 [13:54] <VoxelHead> gacktbunny: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1110 [13:54] <Bobbo> Agent868: What do you mean?
#1111 [13:54] <gacktbunny> it will let me play offline but it lags
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#1113 [13:55] <Wug> gacktbunny: you have purchased minecraft, right?
#1114 [13:55] <Agent868> well when you remote desktop you just access the entire remote computer, but with ssh I can't seem to simply access the running terminals which would be pretty cool or at least something similar to remote desktop but more of a remote terminal
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#1116 [13:55] <DragonScale35> Yes. I can log into my Mojang account, but not into minecraft.
#1117 [13:55] <ghostsniper> do you have to purchase minecraft in order to host a server?
#1118 [13:55] <Agent868> I know ssh does this but once the server is running that terminal is not as simple as ssh to the server again
#1119 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> ghostsniper - No. But you need to purchase minecraft to play
#1120 [13:56] <Bobbo> Agent868: You don't need remote desktop, the terminal is more powerful anyway. :)
#1121 [13:56] <Agent868> I know thats why i'm trying to learn about it
#1122 [13:56] <Agent868> wait you need to purchase minecraft to host a server ?
#1123 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Agent868 - No
#1124 [13:56] <Bobbo> No, you don't...
#1125 [13:56] <ghostsniper> ok so why cant my friends connect to my server even after i have setup port forwarding and i have followed the wiki step by step on setting it up it runs fine no issues except no one can connect to it
#1126 [13:56] <Agent868> I don't even play minecraft I'm doing this for some of the families kids to play on
#1127 [13:57] <Bobbo> Agent868: Mind if I PM'd you about this, would be easier to talk? XD
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#1129 [13:57] <gacktbunny> yea
#1130 [13:57] <Wug> !check c-67-176-88-62.hsd1.co.comcast.net
#1131 [13:57] <Agent868> did you port forward adding your port such as IPaddress.2.4.5.6:port number
#1132 [13:57] <Wug> ghostsniper: the bot says its working fine
#1133 [13:57] <Agent868> however are they trying to log to the server from the WAN or the LAN
#1134 [13:57] <Wug> are you giving them the right ip?
#1135 [13:58] <ghostsniper> LMMFAO craptastic is the server i created
#1136 [13:58] <gacktbunny> yea
#1137 [13:58] <DragonScale35> Anyone capable of helping me sign in to my minecraft account?
#1138 [13:58] <Agent868> the tutorial suggests some routers could have issues with LAN connection from within the lan to a forwarded port etc.
#1139 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> DragonScale35 - Login Failed?
#1140 [13:58] <Wug> DragonScale35: did you just get it
#1141 [13:58] <DragonScale35> yes
#1142 [13:58] <Wug> DragonScale35: go to mojang.com and assign yourself a username
#1143 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> DragonScale35 - Did you make a minecraft profile on your mojang.com account?
#1144 [13:59] <DragonScale35> i can get into mojang, but not minecraft
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#1146 [13:59] <kev> hi
#1147 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> DragonScale35 - Also, make sure your password contains only letters and numbers, no special characters
#1148 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> DragonScale35 - Also, make sure your password contains only letters and numbers, no special characters
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#1150 [13:59] <Wug> we need to ask marc_irl to inform the dev people that this needs its own error message
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#1152 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Wug - New launcher, sometime in the near future
#1153 [13:59] <kev> i need help
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#1155 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> kev - With?
#1156 [13:59] <Agent868> ok so I have to install (screen) on both machines first right ? to access the open terminal on the other machine ?
#1157 [13:59] <ghostsniper> OK so can anyone help me with my issue of no one being able to connect to my server?
#1158 [13:59] <Guest87422> i just bought minecraft and i ddnt get the email
#1159 [13:59] <Gone_Ralex> Agent868, no
#1160 [14:00] <Wug> should be possible with the existing one
#1161 [14:00] <Gone_Ralex> Agent868, you install screen on to the server box
#1162 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> ghostsniper - What ip address are you giving your friends?
#1163 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> ghostsniper - Your server is working fine,
#1164 [14:00] <ghostsniper> my external
#1165 [14:00] <Gone_Ralex> then you use ssh to connect to the terminal, from there just use screen -r to reconnect to the server's screen instance
#1166 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> ghostsniper - Which is.
#1167 [14:00] <Guest87422> havnt got the email to make my username
#1168 [14:00] <Agent868> oh ok, it's ubuntu with LXDE light
#1169 [14:00] <ghostsniper> 67.176.88.62
#1170 [14:01] <Bobbo> Ubuntu should come with screen anyway
#1171 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Guest87422 - Don't need the email to make your username. Log into your Mojang.com account, you'll see minecraft listed under "My Games". There'll be a link to create a profile
#1172 [14:01] <Agent868> oh ok I see ssh to the terminal then the screen -r to reconnect to the servers screen instance which will be the open terminal right ?
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#1174 [14:01] <ghostsniper> thats my external ip that i have been giving my friends yet still not able to connect
#1175 [14:02] <Bobbo> Agent868: When you do "screen -r" to reattach the process, it's like you just started it and it's in the foreground again... Except it's been running the whole time.
#1176 [14:02] <Guest87422> no my games in account settings
#1177 [14:02] <Agent868> from the local box it says command not found but i have not terminals open locally
#1178 [14:02] <Agent868> ok I see so screen is the work around for accessing the open terminals on the other ssh box
#1179 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> !check 67.176.88.62
#1180 [14:03] <Agent868> but I have to see if screen is installed
#1181 [14:03] <Wug> !check c-67-176-88-62.hsd1.co.comcast.net
#1182 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> ghostsniper - Your server isn't up right now. Run it
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#1184 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Er, wait, what?
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#1186 [14:03] <ghostsniper> hum odd people cant connect to it
#1187 [14:04] <DragonScale35> i purhcased minecraft before i had made a profile. is this a problem?
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#1189 [14:04] <Agent868> is the minecraft server running ? on your server now ?
#1190 [14:04] <DragonScale35> no
#1191 [14:04] <ghostsniper> its up sorry was changinf the name and MOTD
#1192 [14:04] <ghostsniper> changing
#1193 [14:04] <DragonScale35> i can't get on.
#1194 [14:04] <Wug> GreyVulpine: that was my reaction
#1195 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> DragonScale35 - Unless you purchased minecraft before january of 2011, you wouldn't have been able to buy minecraft without making a mojang.com account
#1196 [14:05] <Guest87422> why cant i call anyone for better support?
#1197 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Guest87422 - Mojang doesn't have a world-wide customer support hotline, with multi-lingual support
#1198 [14:05] <DragonScale35> i've gone to the mojang account settings page to create a profile but it just prompts me to import my [non]existing profile
#1199 [14:05] <Wug> Guest87422: and they employ like a total of 9 people
#1200 [14:05] <Bobbo> Because there are like over 500k players for each Mojang employee.
#1201 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Seeing as how Mojang's a dozen guys (and girls) in sweden
#1202 [14:05] <Guest87422> ok well i want to play minecraft. i bought it
#1203 [14:05] <ghostsniper> GreyVulpine it says refused connection to my friend who is sitting 4 feet away from me.........
#1204 [14:05] <Agent868> I should be able to install screen via ssh I think
#1205 [14:05] <Wug> Guest87422: check your spam?
#1206 [14:06] <Wug> ghostsniper: is he on your lan
#1207 [14:06] <Guest87422> checked it
#1208 [14:06] <ghostsniper> Yes he is on my local lan
#1209 [14:06] <Guest87422> usually doesnt take this long
#1210 [14:06] <Agent868> does is say refused connection port 22 ? or just refused connection etc.
#1211 [14:06] <Wug> ghostsniper: use your local ip then
#1212 [14:06] <Agent868> or some port issue ?
#1213 [14:06] <ghostsniper> just refused connection
#1214 [14:07] <Wug> Guest87422: contact the company you used to pay for it (probably either your credit card company or your bank)
#1215 [14:07] <Guest87422> also i had a different account that just stopped working
#1216 [14:07] <Agent868> yep from inside the lan you may need to use the local IP and port to access it, at least I think so
#1217 [14:07] <Wug> they block international transactions sometimes, the payment might not have made it through
#1218 [14:07] <ghostsniper> so what 127.0.0.1??
#1219 [14:07] <Agent868> no
#1220 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Your computer
#1221 [14:07] <ghostsniper> ah ok
#1222 [14:07] <Wug> ghostsniper: your 192.168 address
#1223 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> 127.0.0.1 always points back to the computer it's used on
#1224 [14:08] <Agent868> the server computer IP 192.168.1.100:25565 or some such thing but probably don't need the :port number since you have it forwarded
#1225 [14:08] * zack6849|Offline is now known as zack6849
#1226 [14:08] <Wug> port forwarding is only required for out-of-lan connections and has nothing to do with specifying the port in the url
#1227 [14:08] <ghostsniper> Hey thanks guys its working now!!
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#1230 [14:10] <Agent868> cool
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#1233 [14:11] <Guest87422> ya yall should work on fixing the issues. i understand that i wont be able to play because the website is a little off. but it should work.
#1234 [14:11] <nobodyworthnaming> my launcher wont open. do any of you kno whow to fix hat?
#1235 [14:11] <Agent868> ok I installed screen via ssh to the other machine and screen - v tells me its' screen version 4.0 so it's installed
#1236 [14:12] <nobodyworthnaming> that?
#1237 [14:12] <Agent868> screen -r produces no There is no screen to be resumed.
#1238 [14:12] <Agent868> guess I'll have to run down to the box now and look to be sure LOL
#1239 [14:12] <nobodyworthnaming> ???
#1240 [14:12] <Bobbo> Agent868: You don't need to look at the server at all.
#1241 [14:12] <Agent868> maybe we had a power surge and it restarted when I wasn't looking or something
#1242 [14:12] <Bobbo> Agent868: You haven't started a screen to have a detached one...
#1243 [14:12] <nobodyworthnaming> ........
#1244 [14:13] <Agent868> oh wait,
#1245 [14:13] <Wug> nobodyworthnaming: there are multiple conversations going on in this channel
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#1247 [14:13] <Bobbo> Agent868 Do (or similar): screen -dmS minecraft java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar minecraft/minecraft_server.jar
#1248 [14:13] <Agent868> well I have the minecraft server running already in the terminal I started that locally but thought I could access it from here
#1249 [14:13] <Wug> or just leave
#1250 [14:14] <Agent868> oh wait screen - whatever I used to start that server ? should get me into that screen ?
#1251 [14:14] <Agent868> I'll try that
#1252 [14:14] <Bobbo> SSH to the server, start the screen process on the server.
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#1254 [14:14] <SanOyi> Hi, I cant start minecraft 1.4.7 from yesterday. I did update lgw... 2.4.5 and nothing ocurr. now ocurr this http://pastebin.com/7VB6wajc but yesterday I updated driver video!!! pls help me
#1255 [14:14] <VoxelHead> SanOyi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1256 [14:14] <VoxelHead> SanOyi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1257 [14:14] <Bobbo> In general... Just forget about the local machine... You don't care about the local machine, it's irrelevant.
#1258 [14:15] <Agent868> let me make sure I understand, so I'm actually starting another screen I can access later from here, not accessing the same server screen that is already opened ?
#1259 [14:15] <Bobbo> I'm not sure I understand what you are asking, Agent868. XD
#1260 [14:15] <Agent868> crap
#1261 [14:15] <Agent868> lol
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#1263 [14:16] <Bobbo> Agent868: You said you were running this for friends/kids, right?
#1264 [14:16] <ghostsniper> How do i change the commands on my server?
#1265 [14:16] <Agent868> ok, I have the minecraft server running already, but I wanted to ssh to either stop, and edit the property files from here, but I can't access the open terminal
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#1268 [14:16] <Agent868> yep for families kids
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#1270 [14:17] <Agent868> I have the box running about 200 feet from here in my garage/warehouse but it's cold down there so I wanted to access it from here lol
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#1272 [14:17] <Wug> Agent868: you should probably take a good long while to familiarize yourself with screen and basic use of the unix/linux command line
#1273 [14:18] <Agent868> ok, I just didn't know if ssh could access the open terminal on that machine or if I have to use screen to do it
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#1275 [14:18] <India> Can someone help me - my boys have Nexus 7's and all of a sudden "cannot connect to server" - how do I upgrade the versions they have?
#1276 [14:18] <Wug> otherwise you're something of a danger to yourself and others ://
#1277 [14:18] <SanOyi> but I did yesterday and nothing happened
#1278 [14:18] <Bobbo> Agent868: SSH can, using screen.
#1279 [14:18] <Agent868> I think it's better then vpn or trying to use desktop remote sharing etc. cause I'm thinking of ditching the desktop completely
#1280 [14:18] <Bobbo> SSH is just a way of connecting to another computer, it's no different to sitting in front of it with a single command prompt.
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#1282 [14:19] <Agent868> ok, so I can ssh to the other box, then screen - r should resume the terminal session right, however I assume that means resume the terminal session that I started via ssh or screen right ? and not the terminal that I started locally from the box itself ?
#1283 [14:20] <Agent868> then ssh would be great except I can't access the already open terminal
#1284 [14:20] <Bobbo> It's not a terminal session you are resuming, it's whatever you started in screen. XD
#1285 [14:20] <Bobbo> i think this'd be easier if we started from the top, as it were.
#1286 [14:20] <Agent868> ahhh ok, so then something like this
#1287 [14:20] <SanOyi> I´ll try again
#1288 [14:20] <SanOyi> ok
#1289 [14:20] <Bobbo> Agent868: Kill your minecraft server, and terminate any screen sessions.
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#1292 [14:21] <Agent868> screen -dMs java -Xms32M -Xmx512M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#1293 [14:21] <Bobbo> You don't need no gui for the jar.
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#1296 [14:22] <Agent868> ok thats just want the tutorial says so I've been using it to start the minecraft server
#1297 [14:23] <Agent868> i see dmS starts in detached mode but I need to stop the minecraft server first I'm assuming
#1298 [14:23] <Bobbo> Okay, so I take it you've started that screen on your server?
#1299 [14:23] <Agent868> yes
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#1301 [14:24] <Agent868> I was at the server keyboard when I started the server
#1302 [14:24] <Agent868> now the console is open and running theminecraft server
#1303 [14:24] <Bobbo> Yeah. So you're still at the command line?
#1304 [14:24] <Agent868> so I thought instead of running down there to make changes I would ssh to the box and do it with nano or something
#1305 [14:24] <Agent868> yep
#1306 [14:24] <Bobbo> Okay, so screen -r?
#1307 [14:24] <Bobbo> erp
#1308 [14:24] <Bobbo> screen -list
#1309 [14:25] <Agent868> and so when I ssh to the box I can access the box, but not the the command line
#1310 [14:25] <Agent868> let me try list
#1311 [14:25] <Agent868> yes that gives me a socket
#1312 [14:26] <Bobbo> Something like this: There is a screen on:
#1313 [14:26] <Bobbo> 5202.minecraft (03/02/13 14:00:08) (Detached)
#1314 [14:26] <Agent868> says 1 socket in /blah/blah/blah
#1315 [14:26] <Agent868> says (Attached)
#1316 [14:26] <Bobbo> Uhhh
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#1319 [14:27] <Agent868> yes There is a screen on: but nothing about minecraft it's user name etc. : (Attached)
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#1321 [14:28] <Bobbo> Okay.
#1322 [14:28] <Bobbo> Well.
#1323 [14:28] <Bobbo> I dunno what that's doing.
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#1325 [14:28] <Agent868> so then thats the screen I need to detach right whatever that is ?
#1326 [14:28] <Bobbo> killall -9 screen
#1327 [14:28] <Bobbo> Cause...
#1328 [14:28] <Bobbo> It shouldn't be there. XD
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#1330 [14:29] <Agent868> can I issue the minecraft stop command from ssh will it shut down or do I need to be in that command line window ?
#1331 [14:29] <Bobbo> For now, you may as well just do killall -9 java to stop the Minecraft server as well if you don't have access to the Minecraft console.
#1332 [14:29] * Steve[work] is now known as Steve[work]|away
#1333 [14:30] <Wug> I'd use killall -INT java
#1334 [14:30] <Wug> more likely to be safe
#1335 [14:30] <Wug> 9 is not a nice signal to use
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#1338 [14:31] <Agent868> so it sounds like the normal proceedure is to start with ssh then screen and issue the start command then access that screen later from here but not access the command line remotely to access an already running instance
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#1341 [14:32] <Wug> yeah
#1342 [14:32] <Mike_> When I am playing minecraft, it double places blocks. Is there anyway to fix it. Lately it has been triple placing them.
#1343 [14:32] <Wug> unless you'd started the server through screen in the first place
#1344 [14:32] <Maskenshadow> Does anyone know how to unselect a minecraft texturepack without accessing the game itself? I used a to high resolution pack by mistake, and i can upload the game, but not play.
#1345 [14:33] <Agent868> i see thats whats giving me the trouble
#1346 [14:33] <Wug> Maskenshadow: do you know where the texture packs folder it
#1347 [14:33] <Wug> is*
#1348 [14:33] <Bobbo> Agent868: What specifically?
#1349 [14:34] <Wug> Agent868: practice using screen
#1350 [14:34] <Maskenshadow> Thats the thing! I uninstalled the folders and everything! but it still thinks im playing it! I just want to go back to default at this point!
#1351 [14:34] <Maskenshadow> Every time i go in, it trys to load it, even though the file dosent exist.
#1352 [14:34] <Wug> Maskenshadow: did you patch it first
#1353 [14:35] <Agent868> Control-a *
#1354 [14:35] <zen> Mike_, My brother was having that problem, found it was to do with having an over sensitive mouse, replaced it with a decent mouse and it worked better
#1355 [14:35] <Agent868> what is this command screen -Control-a * ?
#1356 [14:35] <Bobbo> The control key + A
#1357 [14:35] <Bobbo> Same as ^a
#1358 [14:35] <Agent868> what is the * ?
#1359 [14:36] <zen> to detatch a screen press crtl + A then d
#1360 [14:36] <Maskenshadow> Well crap... I have to go get MC patcher now ... *sigh*
#1361 [14:36] <Agent868> it's the interactive mode but I dont' know how to enter interactive mode for screen
#1362 [14:36] <zen> That will return you to the shell where you started the screen
#1363 [14:37] <Wug> Maskenshadow: so you hadn't patched it already
#1364 [14:37] <Wug> if you removed the pack, then its not reading it, its breaking for some other reason
#1365 [14:37] <Wug> impossible things dont happen
#1366 [14:38] <Maskenshadow> Nope, so I'm off to go patch it -.- I feel like a complete moron now... but i needed the help, Thank you, Wug.
#1367 [14:38] <Wug> if you tried to patch it before you might have broken it, and force updating might fix it
#1368 [14:38] <Maskenshadow> Ah! Thats right!
#1369 [14:38] <Maskenshadow> TY! Have a nice day!
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#1371 [14:38] <Mike_> zen, I have tried another mouse. Still have the problem.
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#1375 [14:41] <zen> Only other thing i can guess it could be is mouse drivers
#1376 [14:41] <zen> But its not a game problem
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#1379 [14:41] <Wug> he left
#1380 [14:42] <Wug> patience is a virtue friends...
#1381 [14:42] <Bobbo> Agent868: To be honest, once you've got it configured correctly there isn't much need to be able to get on the console.
#1382 [14:43] <Bobbo> Agent868: Any op can "/reload" from in game to reload the configuration (on bukkit at least).
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#1384 [14:46] <Agent868> lol I know but my those kids want me to edit the property file etc. and add seeds and some other mod thing on there, so figured I could do it from here
#1385 [14:46] <Bobbo> You can, but once you got it running it's not much to do.
#1386 [14:46] <Agent868> yep looks simple once it's setup
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#1388 [14:47] <Agent868> they said the seed didn't work right for some reason I added the seed the wanted but they said it was mountains and not what they really wanted
#1389 [14:48] <Agent868> oh well, thanks people, I learned a lot about screen anyhow
#1390 [14:48] <Bobbo> Agent868
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#1392 [14:49] <Bobbo> It's kind of hard to explain what to do, but easy when you can see/do it when you know... And I'm wanting to help you... Cause it's server and linux, and that's more fun than the boring client problems. XD
#1393 [14:50] <EpicNarwahls18> i can not connect and i have an internet connection...my account has always worked before?
#1394 [14:51] <Agent868> linux is fun, I'm learning python to build some cool stuff on linux too
#1395 [14:51] <Agent868> well, going to run down in the cold warehouse to check this thing out
#1396 [14:51] <Bobbo> I recently wrote a perl script (which you can get on MC forums) which does all the boring server admin stuff for you (auto update and crash detection). XD
#1397 [14:52] <Agent868> cool, I was thinking i might make something like that on perl or something for my kids to interface into the server but I see a lot of stuff out there already
#1398 [14:52] <Agent868> not perl, python
#1399 [14:52] <Agent868> oops
#1400 [14:53] <Agent868> thanks all, happy minecrafting
#1401 [14:54] <Agent868> once learn a bit more I'll check in to help here some
#1402 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> We always welcome more help
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#1406 [14:57] <Narc> hello?
#1407 [14:58] <Narc> can someone read me?
#1408 [14:58] <Narc> i need help please
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#1410 [14:58] <Gone_Ralex> ??> Narc ask
#1411 [14:58] <VoxelHead> Narc: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1412 [14:58] <VoxelHead> Narc: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1414 [14:58] <Narc> In the video of the nuclear power plant, if you see, the wires are in the block faces in chambers and thermal monitors too... In my minecraft i can't do that, the nuclear reactor menu is open at right-click
#1415 [14:58] <Gone_Ralex> ??> Narc mods
#1416 [14:58] <VoxelHead> Narc: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1417 [14:58] <VoxelHead> Narc: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1418 [14:59] <Bobbo> Gone_Ralex is on fire tonight. :3
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#1420 [14:59] <Narc> buildcraft
#1421 [14:59] <Narc> 3
#1422 [14:59] <SanOyi> ok. here is http://pastebin.com/2VYFmTyQ
#1423 [14:59] <Narc> industrial craft 2
#1424 [14:59] <Gone_Ralex> Bobbo, better than watching parititons formatting
#1425 [14:59] <Wug> Narc: contact the mod author
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#1427 [14:59] <Bobbo> True...
#1428 [14:59] <Narc> yeah, but my question is
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#1430 [15:00] <Guest37323> i have a black screen
#1431 [15:00] <Narc> how to put wires in nuclear reactor faces?
#1432 [15:00] <Gone_Ralex> Narc, we don't support mods
#1433 [15:00] <Narc> i find in every sites
#1434 [15:00] <Bobbo> Narc: Ask someone who plays the mod.
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#1436 [15:00] <Gone_Ralex> So that means we cannot help you
#1437 [15:00] <Narc> thank you
#1438 [15:00] <Guest37323> it lets me log on and loads but the screen goes black
#1439 [15:00] <Guest37323> it lets me log on and loads but the screen goes black
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#1441 [15:01] <Gone_Ralex> Guest37323, can you get a crash report for us: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#1443 [15:01] <E__> I have updated my video drivers and still can't play?
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#1445 [15:01] <zen> ??> E__ win/dxdiag
#1446 [15:01] <VoxelHead> E__: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1447 [15:01] <VoxelHead> E__: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1448 [15:02] <SanOyi> VoxelHeald pls!
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#1451 [15:05] <E__> Said no problems found
#1452 [15:06] <Gone_Ralex> E__, pastebin the file for us to look at
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#1460 [15:11] <SanOyi> http://pastebin.com/2VYFmTyQ
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#1462 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> SanOyi - What is your issue?
#1463 [15:13] <Slashbeast> Nobody can see my skin on a minecraft server. The server has a creative/rp portal, and a pvp portal. In the creative portal nobody can see my skin. The file is NOT damaged. This has happened with 3 skins. And I really want them to be able to see it, can you please give me some insight?
#1464 [15:14] <Slashbeast> Also, everybody's skin works.
#1465 [15:14] <Wug> GreyVulpine: video driver weirdness
#1466 [15:14] <Wug> werent you supposed to be having fun watching movies
#1467 [15:14] * GreyVulpine is.
#1467 [15:14] <Wug> driver is dated 2013 so its very recent
#1468 [15:14] <SanOyi> I bugth minecraft 1.4.7 yestarday, but I cant start, appear a windows with follow message failed start ...
#1469 [15:15] <Wug> SanOyi: weird that you're having issues with it. I take it it's never worked on that computer?
#1470 [15:15] <Slashbeast> Nobody can see my skin on a minecraft server. The server has a creative/rp portal, and a pvp portal. In the creative portal nobody can see my skin. The file is NOT damaged. This has happened with 3 skins. And I really want them to be able to see it, can you please give me some insight?Also, everybody's skin works. And before they said people have a problem
#1471 [15:15] <SanOyi> updated driver video
#1472 [15:15] <SanOyi> i dont know
#1473 [15:15] <Slashbeast> with their mc clients, but the fact that they can see it in the pvp portal proves otherwise.
#1474 [15:15] <Slashbeast> Please help.
#1475 [15:16] <Wug> Slashbeast: try changing it and changing it back
#1476 [15:16] <Wug> the skin system is sometimes picky
#1477 [15:16] <Wug> SanOyi: you dont know if its ever worked before?
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#1479 [15:17] <SanOyi> I dont understand please
#1480 [15:17] <Wug> SanOyi: has minecraft ever worked properly?
#1481 [15:18] <Slashbeast> I have tried that
#1482 [15:18] <Slashbeast> Like I said, it has happened with 3 skins
#1483 [15:18] <Wug> Slashbeast: youve checked the obvious things, like making sure youre changing the skin on the right account?
#1484 [15:19] <SanOyi> never from I bouth and I run
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#1486 [15:20] <Wug> you say you used lwjgl 2.4, the current version is 2.8.5
#1487 [15:20] <Wug> SanOyi: try that one maybe
#1488 [15:21] <Wug> ?
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#1490 [15:21] <Slashbeast> Yes of course. I have only used minecraft on this computer with one account in the first place.
#1491 [15:21] <HJ> I don@t know my user name
#1492 [15:21] <HJ> I don@t know my user name
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#1494 [15:22] <Wug> ^ :|
#1495 [15:22] <SanOyi> Could you repeat
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#1497 [15:22] <Wug> SanOyi: im not sure we can do anything if the newest driver isnt working
#1498 [15:22] <HJ> I don't know my username
#1499 [15:22] <Wug> HJ: you said that already
#1500 [15:22] <Wug> it would help if you stayed here
#1501 [15:22] <Wug> did you just buy minecraft?
#1502 [15:23] <HJ> No I'm using technich
#1503 [15:23] <Wug> have you bought minecraft?
#1504 [15:23] <HJ> no
#1505 [15:23] <Wug> minecraft is not free, you need to pay to get a premium account
#1506 [15:24] <HJ> So do I need to pay for minecraft to get technic
#1507 [15:24] <HJ> ?
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#1509 [15:24] <Bobbo> Yes HJ.
#1510 [15:24] <Wug> HJ: yeah, technic is a mod
#1511 [15:24] <SanOyi> ok then I lost my money with this game for my sun ehh?
#1512 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> You need to pay to play minecraft, period
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#1514 [15:24] <SanOyi> I dont believe!!
#1515 [15:24] <Wug> SanOyi: if you have other computers you can play it on those
#1516 [15:24] <Slashbeast> I have not used any other usernames via minecraft related purposes.
#1517 [15:25] <Wug> Slashbeast: whats your username
#1518 [15:25] <Wug> is it just Slashbeast?
#1519 [15:26] <SanOyi> you suggest me tha I use another computer
#1520 [15:26] <Slashbeast> My minecraft username is Flaming_Fang1290
#1521 [15:27] <Wug> SanOyi: the one you have apparently doesn't have the hardware requirements
#1522 [15:27] <Slashbeast> (By the way, I can see my own skin. Also the server has a spawn head function and when I spawn mine it shows my skin's head, but nobody can see it.)
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#1524 [15:27] <Wug> weird.
#1525 [15:28] <Wug> do you have a server you can login to and send me the address of, so I can try to see it?
#1526 [15:28] <Slashbeast> Do you mean a server of my own?
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#1528 [15:29] <Slashbeast> I have no server of my own if that is what you mean.
#1529 [15:30] <Slashbeast> Also, it works on other servers.
#1530 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Slashbeast - Wug means the server(s) where you're experiencing this problem
#1531 [15:30] <Slashbeast> Oh
#1532 [15:30] <Wug> if its just the one server where it doesn't work, it might be a plugin bug or something
#1533 [15:30] <SanOyi> well you didnt help me. thks
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#1535 [15:32] <Slashbeast> Wug I pm'ed you.
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#1540 [15:42] <NinjaKirby> "<SanOyi> well you didnt help me. thks" - Wow, so he wants us to cough up a few hundred quid to pay for his new computer, I guess.
#1541 [15:44] <NinjaKirby> #minecrafthelp is now a Charity Fund, everyone, start emptying your pockets, anything is welcome.
#1542 [15:44] * NinjaKirby goes and gets his Coin jar
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#1543 [15:45] <Bobbo> NinjaKirby: In my pockets: A knife, and a scrumpled mobile phone top up recent from an ATM.
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#1546 [15:46] <Chip> Had to reinstall Windows XP on my Dell D630. Minecraft previously worked but now it will not start. OpenGL error. I have confirmed with the OpenGL Viewer that my video driver supports it but Minecraft still won't start. Advice?
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#1548 [15:47] <NinjaKirby> Bobbo: Sounds like you are the receiver of the Charity's support, as opposed to being the donator XD
#1549 [15:47] * Gone_Ralex looks in pockets
#1549 [15:47] * Gone_Ralex also has a pocket knife
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#1550 [15:48] * NinjaKirby expects a Knife battle similar to Under Seige 2; Casey Ryback versus Mr Penn
#1550 [15:48] <Chip> Hi. Can anyone here provide advice about getting Minecraft to work on Windows XP?
#1551 [15:48] <NinjaKirby> I think I got those character names right...
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#1553 [15:49] <NinjaKirby> Chip: It's specifically the latest official Driver installed?
#1554 [15:49] <Wug> Chip: is it telling you your video drivers are bad or is it something else
#1555 [15:49] * NinjaKirby makes way for Wug
#1555 [15:50] <Chip> I believe I have updated with the latest Intel driver from the Intel web site. 965 driver.
#1556 [15:50] <Wug> Chip: does it still say theres an issue with it?
#1557 [15:50] <Chip> When I start Minecraft, it gives an OpenGL error message. I will try to recreate it.
#1558 [15:50] <Chip> to get the exact verbiage.
#1559 [15:50] <Wug> NinjaKirby: im tired so I type slowly because otherwise my sentences look like this waeiwared posef ef wef uiaweawererorg ergwqer wqreg wr
#1560 [15:51] <Chip> Error message is: Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#1561 [15:51] <Wug> Chip: you dont have to, its a well known issue
#1562 [15:51] <Wug> we do need a dxdiag though
#1563 [15:51] <Bobbo> NinjaKirby: Nah... Just nuked two computers this month so haven't been able to work much. :)
#1564 [15:51] <Wug> ?? win/dxdiag
#1565 [15:51] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1566 [15:51] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
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#1569 [15:54] <brycen> Ok so when I go to log on I get this error....Java.net.SocketException: Permission Denied: Connect
#1570 [15:54] <brycen> any Idea what is happening here?
#1571 [15:54] <brycen> I have updated Java
#1572 [15:55] <Chip> I pasted the dxdiag and this is the URL... is that what you need?... http://pastebin.com/0QSzWpUJ
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#1576 [15:57] <Wug> Chip: yep
#1577 [15:58] <Wug> brycen: have you checked your firewall settings?
#1578 [15:58] <brycen> Java.net.SocketException: Permission Denied: Connect I tried pointing a new shortcut at v4 and not the v6 but this failed to fix the sign on issue.
#1579 [15:58] <brycen> I just looked at that but I'm not sure what to change
#1580 [15:59] <Wug> brycen: at some point, minecraft would have opened a window from the windows firewall asking if you wanted to allow or deny it
#1581 [15:59] <Wug> you did allow it right?
#1582 [16:00] <Wug> Chip: you might be in some trouble
#1583 [16:00] <Wug> has it ever worked before or is this the first time youve tried?
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#1585 [16:01] <brycen> CTCP?
#1586 [16:01] <Wug> brycen: I was checking your os version
#1587 [16:01] <Wug> win7 x64 right
#1588 [16:02] <Wug> webchat on IE9
#1589 [16:02] <brycen> When I open the firewall settings I can not see Minecraft as a program to let through the firewall?
#1590 [16:02] <Wug> you have to allow java through, not minecraft.exe
#1591 [16:02] <Wug> the full path is C:\windows\system32\javaw.exe
#1592 [16:02] <Wug> at least, it probably is
#1593 [16:03] <brycen> I don't see Java either?
#1594 [16:04] <Gone_Ralex> isn't it in the program file folder Wug ?
#1595 [16:04] <Wug> Gone_Ralex: it can be in one of a few places
#1596 [16:04] <Gone_Ralex> i know default install is in the PF folder
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#1598 [16:04] <Wug> java doesnt add its folder to PATH, the way it works sometimes if you just invoke 'java' is it adds copies of java and javaw to system32
#1599 [16:05] <Gone_Ralex> ah
#1600 [16:05] <Gone_Ralex> i see
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#1602 [16:05] <Gone_Ralex> good to know
#1603 [16:05] <Wug> I believe that if you start the launcher by running minecraft.exe it will choose first c:\windows\system32\javaw.exe and if that doesnt exist it will use the javaw.exe in whichever java installation folder it decides with whatever arcane reasoning it uses
#1604 [16:05] <brycen> How about this?
#1605 [16:06] <Wug> brycen: add one for that file and allow it
#1606 [16:06] <Chip> @VoxelHead and VWug... sorry I got disconnected there for a little while. Did not see any responses if you gave advice on my issue posted on pastebin
#1607 [16:06] <Wug> Chip: you might be in some trouble
#1608 [16:06] <brycen> add one for that file?
#1609 [16:06] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, ran mine, it used the one in PF
#1610 [16:06] <Wug> I'm not sure the driver can handle minecraft new as it is
#1611 [16:07] <Wug> Gone_Ralex: do you have one in system32?
#1612 [16:07] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, yep
#1613 [16:07] <Gone_Ralex> even looked myself before trying this
#1614 [16:07] <Wug> great
#1615 [16:07] <Wug> its totally nondeterministic
#1616 [16:07] <Wug> fantastic/
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#1618 [16:07] <Gone_Ralex> think it is how Launch4J does it
#1619 [16:08] <Wug> I guess I know why the company that wrote it is called oracle
#1620 [16:08] <Wug> you need an oracle to figure out what its doing to do
#1621 [16:08] <Wug> anyway
#1622 [16:08] <brycen> nice
#1623 [16:09] <Wug> Chip: i've seen several issues from people with that graphics card in the last few days
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#1625 [16:09] <Chip> @Wug and @VoxelHead, I used this machine previously for Minecraft but had to reload the XP OS due to a file corruption issue. Any ideas as to how to find a driver that will work with Minecraft again? I know it worked previously but now having the issue as noted.
#1626 [16:09] <Wug> I don't think they were all resolved which makes me suspect that minecraft now depends on features that the new driver does not support
#1627 [16:09] <Wug> this has happened before
#1628 [16:09] <Gone_Ralex> on xp? there is a work-around we can try
#1629 [16:10] <Wug> Gone_Ralex: I have an idea but you share yours first
#1630 [16:10] <Gone_Ralex> ??> Chip win/intelgpu
#1631 [16:10] <VoxelHead> Chip: (win/intelgpu) Sometimes, having an old Intel Integrated GPU on Windows XP might cause Minecraft to not run. (Please note that computers that have old Intel Integrated GPUs usually have low performance, and purchasing a new computer will, in the long run, be better for you.)
#1632 [16:10] <VoxelHead> Chip: (win/intelgpu) Control Panel > Display > Settings > Advanced > Troubleshoot, turn Hardware acceleration to below half (or off).
#1633 [16:10] <Wug> I spose its worth a shot
#1634 [16:11] <Chip> @VoxelHead - trying the half/off thing now
#1635 [16:11] <Gone_Ralex> Chip, Voxel is a bot ;)
#1636 [16:12] <Chip> +Gone_Ralex - Thanks!
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#1644 [16:15] <Chip> changed the hardware acceleration setting. No joy. Same error.
#1645 [16:16] <mjk> i purchased teh card for minecraft for mac, donwloaded the game, but i just get a blank screen. what am i doing wrong?
#1646 [16:16] <dgruber> when i try to open minecraft it dose not open
#1647 [16:17] <Wug> ok, one at a time here
#1648 [16:17] <mjk> is anybody there able to help?
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#1650 [16:17] <Wug> Chip: download an old version (I'd try the latest version of 1.3) and see if it runs
#1651 [16:18] <mjk> how do i do that?
#1652 [16:18] <Wug> mjk: make sure we're talking to you
#1653 [16:18] <Chip> an old version of what?
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#1655 [16:18] <Wug> Chip: you can download old versions of minecraft from the website
#1656 [16:18] <Chip> OK. I'll try it.
#1657 [16:19] <Wug> Chip: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_3_2/minecraft.jar
#1658 [16:19] <Wug> if that one works and the newest doesnt, its probably that the requirements changed
#1659 [16:19] <Wug> mjk: ok you next
#1660 [16:19] <mjk> thanks
#1661 [16:19] <Gone_Ralex> dgruber, what do you mean does not open?
#1662 [16:19] <Wug> what do you mean by a blank screen?
#1663 [16:19] <Wug> black? white?
#1664 [16:20] <Wug> do you login first or do you not get that far?
#1665 [16:20] <dgruber> nothing shoes up
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#1667 [16:20] <Wug> dgruber: I bet java's broken, have you tried reinstalling it?
#1668 [16:20] <Wug> you have windows 7 x64
#1669 [16:20] <dgruber> yes
#1670 [16:21] <Wug> dgruber: do you have more than one version of java installed?
#1671 [16:21] <hunter> My game wont launch at all. what do I do?
#1672 [16:21] <dgruber> i dont think so
#1673 [16:21] <Wug> hunter: hold on a bit
#1674 [16:21] <hunter> ok
#1675 [16:22] <Wug> mjk: still waiting on answers to those questions
#1676 [16:22] <Wug> mjk: still waiting on answers to those questions
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#1678 [16:22] <Wug> dgruber: can you pull up the control panel and check?
#1679 [16:22] <dgruber> sure
#1680 [16:22] <Wug> tell me what versions you have
#1681 [16:22] <dgruber> were do yuo check?
#1682 [16:22] <mjk> sorry, i just got confused wiht all the messages. after i log in , i just get a white screen. i did an update of software, but nothing changed.
#1683 [16:23] <Wug> in the control panel under the 'programs' section
#1684 [16:23] <dgruber> java 32bit
#1685 [16:23] <Wug> dgruber: that the only one? what version?
#1686 [16:24] <dgruber> that is the onley one and i dont know the version
#1687 [16:24] <Wug> mjk: have you installed any mods?
#1688 [16:24] <Wug> dgruber: the listing in the control panel should have a version number
#1689 [16:24] <mjk> what are mods?
#1690 [16:24] <Wug> mjk: I guess thats a no
#1691 [16:25] <dgruber> just says 32bit
#1692 [16:25] <Wug> can you try force updating? in the launcher before logging in, click options, then force update, then login
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#1695 [16:25] <Wug> dgruber: uninstall it, then go here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
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#1697 [16:25] <dgruber> k
#1698 [16:25] <Wug> download the version for 64 bit windows (second from the bottom)
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#1700 [16:27] <dgruber> k its downloading
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#1703 [16:29] <dgruber> java downloaded
#1704 [16:29] <Guest27789> The game keeps stopping and saying Minecraft is out of memory. What do I need to do?
#1705 [16:30] <dgruber> got it thank you!!!!
#1706 [16:30] <Wug> Guest27789: confusingly enough you need to allocate less memory to it
#1707 [16:30] <Wug> dgruber: no problem
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#1709 [16:30] <Guest27789> how do i do that?
#1710 [16:31] <Wug> Guest27789: minecraft.exe is on your desktop right?
#1711 [16:31] <mjk> ok, do i need to get those mods? how do i do that?
#1712 [16:31] <Guest27789> i have the minecraft is on the desktop
#1713 [16:31] <Wug> mjk: no, but improperly installing mods can make minecraft break.
#1714 [16:31] <Wug> have you force updated?
#1715 [16:31] <mjk> what do i need to do?
#1716 [16:32] <Wug> Guest27789: ok, right click on the desktop and click create shortcut
#1717 [16:32] <Lutzee> mjk: Do you have java 7 installed on the mac?
#1718 [16:32] <Guest27789> ok
#1719 [16:32] <mjk> no, my mac is 10.6 and java 7 is for higher macs
#1720 [16:32] <Wug> Guest27789: for the location, type 'javaw'
#1721 [16:33] <Wug> actually wait
#1722 [16:33] <Guest27789> when i right click on thedektop, i don't get the option to create a shortcut
#1723 [16:34] <Wug> new -> shortcut
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#1725 [16:34] <Wug> use javaw -Xmx384M -cp minecraft.exe net.client.LauncherFrame in the first box and Play Minecraft in the second
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#1727 [16:34] <Guest27789> ok. javaw?
#1728 [16:35] <mjk> i jst downloded the latest java update (12) i can have for my mac adn i still get a white screen.
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#1730 [16:35] <hunter> i cant get minecraft to play it loads but it does not finish loading
#1731 [16:35] <Wug> Lutzee: can you help mjk more? I don't know much about macs
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#1733 [16:36] <Wug> Guest27789: type those things in the supplied boxes
#1734 [16:36] <Lutzee> Nor do i.. but getting the crash log will be usefu
#1735 [16:36] <Gone_Ralex> Oh
#1736 [16:36] <Gone_Ralex> Macs and Java 7 have a bug with Lwjgl
#1737 [16:36] <Gone_Ralex> Macs and Java 7 have a bug with Lwjgl
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#1739 [16:36] <Gone_Ralex> It does not load properly and crashes minecraft
#1740 [16:36] <Lutzee> mjk: can you get a crash report please minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1741 [16:36] <Wug> hunter: have you tried force updating?
#1742 [16:36] <Gone_Ralex> It is a known issue with lwjgl
#1743 [16:36] <Lutzee> Gone_Ralex: already asked
#1744 [16:37] <Guest27789> done. it gave me a java icon. is that right?
#1745 [16:37] <Gone_Ralex> Lutzee, asked what?
#1746 [16:37] <mjk> do i just got to that website you wrote?
#1747 [16:37] <hunter> i downloded java again and it sill dont work
#1748 [16:37] <Gone_Ralex> Lutzee, oh, i see there
#1749 [16:37] <Lutzee> mjk: it has a guide to getting a crash report
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#1751 [16:38] <hunter> i have tried force updae to
#1752 [16:38] <mjk> i can't even get it started .. i don't think it is crashing ...
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#1754 [16:39] <Guest27789> got an error. 'could not find the main class
#1755 [16:39] <Lutzee> mjk: It is, it crashes during startup
#1756 [16:39] <Lutzee> Guest27789: er change minecraft.exe to Minecraft.exe in the shortcut
#1757 [16:39] <mjk> ok, it say to open mcpatcher. where adn what is it?
#1758 [16:39] <Wug> Guest27789: you shouldnt see anything at all, so you're not doing something right
#1759 [16:40] <Wug> it will either work properly or do absolutely nothing
#1760 [16:40] <hunter> what do i do
#1761 [16:40] <Wug> if you want to get teamviewer ill set it up
#1762 [16:40] <Wug> hunter: you can get teamviewer too
#1763 [16:40] <Guest27789> when i click on the new desktop icon, i get that error
#1764 [16:40] <Wug> everyone get teamviewer
#1765 [16:40] <Wug> hooray teamviewer
#1766 [16:41] <Guest27789> what is that
#1767 [16:41] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, why not just suggest a bat file instead of a shortcut?
#1768 [16:41] <Wug> ?? teamviewer
#1769 [16:41] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1770 [16:41] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1771 [16:41] <Wug> Gone_Ralex: shortcuts are easier
#1772 [16:41] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, maybe :P
#1773 [16:41] <Guest27789> not allowed
#1774 [16:42] <hunter> what is that?
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#1776 [16:44] <Wug> hunter: what is teamviewer? read voxelheads message
#1777 [16:44] <Guest27789> the error said it cant get 'net.client.LauncherFrame'
#1778 [16:45] <Wug> Guest27789: you shouldn't see an error at all
#1779 [16:46] <Wug> you mistyped something. make sure that minecraft.exe is on your desktop.
#1780 [16:46] <Wug> The text to use: javaw -Xmx384M -cp minecraft.exe net.client.LauncherFrame
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#1782 [16:47] <hunter> still didnt work
#1783 [16:47] <Lutzee> Wug: you need Minecraft.exe capitalised..
#1784 [16:47] <Wug> Lutzee: windows filesystems tend to be case insensitive
#1785 [16:47] <mjk> is there a way you can tell on a mac if you are playing the demo or the full version?
#1786 [16:47] <Lutzee> Nope
#1787 [16:47] <seven> I have an error code: 301 Moved Permanently. how do I fix?
#1788 [16:47] <Lutzee> They are case sensitive
#1789 [16:48] <Wug> Lutzee: double check that
#1790 [16:48] <Wug> open a prompt and type jAvA
#1791 [16:48] <Wug> or maybe dir c:\wInDoWs
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#1793 [16:49] <Wug> Guest27789: right click the shortcut
#1794 [16:49] <Wug> choose properties
#1795 [16:49] <Wug> go to the general tab and copy the location (should be your desktop)
#1796 [16:50] <Wug> go back to the shortcut tab and paste it into the "start in" box
#1797 [16:50] <Wug> click apply and try again
#1798 [16:51] <seven> how do I "open a prompt"?
#1799 [16:51] <Wug> seven: is this when visiting minecraft.net?
#1800 [16:52] <Wug> are you including the www? or leaving it out
#1801 [16:52] <seven> no. when running program on my PC
#1802 [16:52] <Wug> this program is minecraft, right? what part is showing this error?
#1803 [16:53] <seven> yes. when I open program and try to log in, I get error code
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#1805 [16:54] <mjk> this is frustrating .. i spent $26 and I can't play the game. Can i pleawe have some help?
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#1808 [16:55] <mjk> i could play the demo, why can't i play the full version?
#1809 [16:57] <Guest27789> wug: same problem. do i click on the java icon shortcut or the minecraft.exe icon to make it work?
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#1812 [17:00] <Guest82142> I have not been upgraded to the latest version of minecraft. Why not?
#1813 [17:01] <Guest82142> Why am I unable to get acces to upload to the latest version of minecraft?
#1814 [17:01] <Guest27789> wug? you there?
#1815 [17:01] <Guest27789> which icon do i use to open minecraft?
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#1817 [17:04] <Wug> Guest27789: sorry
#1818 [17:04] <Wug> had to take a call
#1819 [17:05] <Wug> you sure you cant get teamviewer
#1820 [17:05] <Wug> I'd have it fixed in like 2 mins tops
#1821 [17:05] <Guest27789> no problem...this thing is very frustrating
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#1823 [17:06] <Guest27789> ok. i have team viewer
#1824 [17:06] <seven> Wug- I cant find the "start in" box to past the location
#1825 [17:07] <kelleyfire> i have the launcher working, and i can login but i just get a "updating minecraft" thing. also i get "done loading" the bar isnt quite full tho
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#1827 [17:07] <Zash> Anyone there that can help me?
#1828 [17:08] <Zash> oh i just ask
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#1830 [17:09] <Zash> My favorite map on my mine craft disappeared today. I have NO idea what happened. I had it on survival so Its not that easy to get back. I had everything on that map, I was even making my own village. BUT IT JUST DISAPPEARED! HELP! HOW DO I GET IT BACK?!?!
#1831 [17:10] <NinjaKirby> Warm Greetings, O'Marc_InRealLife
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#1833 [17:10] <Zash> My favorite map on my mine craft disappeared today. I have NO idea what happened. I had it on survival so Its not that easy to get back. I had everything on that map, I was even making my own village. BUT IT JUST DISAPPEARED! HELP! HOW DO I GET IT BACK?!?!
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#1835 [17:11] <Gone_Ralex> Zash, did you change computers?
#1836 [17:11] <Zash> No
#1837 [17:12] <NinjaKirby> Is the world folder at all present in .minecraft/saves?
#1838 [17:12] <Zash> I even tried looking for it in the trash bin, and Resetting my computer.
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#1840 [17:12] <Zash> do i search for that in all documents?
#1841 [17:12] <NinjaKirby> It's [User Dir]/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft
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#1843 [17:13] <Zash> where do i put that into? my search box on my computer? srry im clueless and DESPERATE
#1844 [17:13] <Gone_Ralex> what OS?
#1845 [17:13] <NinjaKirby> ^ Good question
#1846 [17:13] <NinjaKirby> I am making the assumption of all fudgeups
#1847 [17:14] <Zash> nope no where
#1848 [17:14] <Gone_Ralex> Zash, what OS do you have? windows? mac? linux?
#1849 [17:14] <Gone_Ralex> Zash, what OS do you have? windows? mac? linux?
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#1851 [17:14] <Zash> oh lol
#1852 [17:15] <Zash> windows
#1853 [17:15] <Gone_Ralex> ??> Zash win/.minecraft
#1854 [17:15] <VoxelHead> Zash: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
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#1856 [17:15] <MrPoetatoebadger> my minecraft launcher says cannot connect to minecraft.net, but it works in browser, and it works fine on my brother who has the same laptop as me. ive already tried deleting minecraft and reinstalling, but that avails to no good. HELP PLEASE
#1857 [17:16] <Zash> where do i put the Win+R
#1858 [17:16] <Zash> in the search box?
#1859 [17:16] <Brandon_> My minecraft xbox360 edition is messed up, the screen is dark and I can't turn with the right stick at all, this is all in game, why did this happen?
#1860 [17:16] <Lutzee> Zash: win is the windows key and R is the r key
#1861 [17:16] <Lutzee> MrPoetatoebadger: what do you see when you go here https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#1862 [17:17] <MrPoetatoebadger> it says bad login
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#1864 [17:17] <Ben> wug?
#1865 [17:17] <Lutzee> MrPoetatoebadger: okay so you can connect to the login servers from the web browser, what anti virus do you have?
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#1868 [17:18] <MrPoetatoebadger> norton
#1869 [17:18] <Zash> Lutzee yea there are a ton of files when I do that but they are all empty except for another map i made recently like an hour ago
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#1871 [17:18] <Brandon_> My minecraft xbox360 edition is messed up, the screen is dark and I can't turn with the right stick at all, this is all in game, any ideas?
#1872 [17:19] <MrPoetatoebadger> Brandon: Sounds like an HDMI issue i had a couple months back
#1873 [17:19] <Zash> Lutzee?
#1874 [17:19] <MrPoetatoebadger> Brandon: Minus the stick part
#1875 [17:20] <Brandon_> everything is fine at the menu but when I go to one of my worlds it does that
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#1877 [17:20] <MrPoetatoebadger> where did lutzee go?
#1878 [17:20] <Zash> I DONT KNOW I NEED HIM
#1879 [17:20] <cestislife> ?? patience
#1880 [17:20] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1881 [17:20] <Brandon_> Mr.potatoebadger: how did you fix it?
#1882 [17:20] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#1883 [17:21] <Zash> I WAS FIRST
#1884 [17:21] <Lutzee> ._. First, if your map disapeard form the game but the files are there then the game has failed to read the level data file due to corruption
#1885 [17:21] <seven> having trouble logging in. Getting error: '>301 Moved Permanently </Tit;e></head>...
#1886 [17:22] <Brandon_> Mr.potatoebadger: how did you fix it?
#1887 [17:22] <MrPoetatoebadger> Brandon: I bought a new HDMI cable, but the issu your having is probably has something to do with a download fail
#1888 [17:22] <Zash> no the map disappeared and it appears the files are gone too. one thing i find weird is that the screen shots folder is emty when on that map that disappeared I took a decent 10 screen shots and they aint there
#1889 [17:22] <Brandon_> it worked fine up until now, so i should try to uninstall and redownload?
#1890 [17:23] <Zash> There is the folder for one other map I have in minecraft that i dislike, but i have no idea why that one didnt dissapear also
#1891 [17:23] <MrPoetatoebadger> Lutzee: My antivirus is Norton
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#1893 [17:24] <Lutzee> MrPoetatoebadger: Yeah... that is probably the problem, you need to add a rule to the firewall to allow java and minecraft through it
#1894 [17:24] <Lutzee> Or... you know, use something other than norton because norton is terrible
#1895 [17:24] <MrPoetatoebadger> How would I do that?
#1896 [17:24] <Zash> Lutzee I want to get this map back just cause i spent a ton of hours on it, and i don't want those to go to waste
#1897 [17:24] <Zash> go ahead and help poetato badger first though
#1898 [17:25] <Lutzee> You can try opening it a program sucha s MCedit then saving it again, but i cant garentee anything
#1899 [17:25] <Lutzee> You can try opening it a program sucha s MCedit then saving it again, but i cant garentee anything
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#1902 [17:26] <MrPoetatoebadger> Lutzee, what do i do to fix the firewall thing?
#1903 [17:26] <Lutzee> Find a way to whitelist connections from java and minecraft
#1904 [17:26] <Zash> Oh were you talking to me Lutzee about the MCedit thingy?
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#1906 [17:26] <Lutzee> But as i dont have anything to do with norton i have no clue how
#1907 [17:27] <Lutzee> Zash: yes
#1908 [17:27] <MrPoetatoebadger> Darn
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#1910 [17:27] <Zash> what is MCedit?
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#1912 [17:28] <MrPoetatoebadger> Lutzee: tell me what you think i should look up in youtube or something
#1913 [17:28] <Zash> Is it a downloadable app or something online?
#1914 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#1915 [17:28] <Zash> lol poor Lutzee
#1916 [17:28] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#1917 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> MCedit is a map editor
#1918 [17:28] <Zash> thanks
#1919 [17:29] <Zash> Lutzee what did you mean by oppening it up in MCedit? how can I if its gone?
#1920 [17:30] <Lutzee> If the files are still there you can
#1921 [17:30] <Lutzee> if not then they were deleted
#1922 [17:30] <Lutzee> if that is the case and they were deleted from within minecraft then the world is gone
#1923 [17:30] <MrPoetatoebadger> Lutzee is there anything i can look up in youtube to figure out what i need to figure out??????
#1924 [17:30] <Zash> how would I be able to search for them on MCedit? should i search with the name of the map?
#1925 [17:31] <Lutzee> I dont know... i've never had to do it.
#1926 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> You would then look for where save files are located, usually in your .minecraft/saves/ folder
#1927 [17:31] <Lutzee> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCIcoRJZVJ8 Zash
#1928 [17:31] <VoxelHead> How to open your minecraft map in mcedit ( by AGO0FYG0OBER )
#1929 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> If the level.dat file exists in there, you would then use that file to open it. If it fails, or there's no level.dat file, the world is gone
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#1934 [17:36] <NinjaKirby> Like most software, Minecraft only marks the files for deletion. If it really deleted the map, then File Recovery software could possibly recover it, if none of it's been overwritten.
#1935 [17:36] <Zash> srry guys I gtg thanks though it didnt work
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#1937 [17:37] <NinjaKirby> Never mind.
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#1942 [17:38] <kingkid> hi i just really want to know what the heck is going on in c418 pliz tell me i can find out
#1943 [17:38] <NinjaKirby> I'm gonna put that to the test actually.
#1944 [17:39] <kingkid> i need to know ori will forever be wondering
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#1951 [17:47] <Anne> i have downloaded minecraft but what do i do now? when i try to log in it invalid - not downloaded!!
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#1954 [17:49] <brycen> loading update news............
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#1956 [17:49] <brycen> and when I click connect it says that I cannot connect?
#1957 [17:49] <brycen> I have changed the firewall settings
#1958 [17:49] <Anne> this is for my son. i hate downloading things! this seems to always happen. is the user name the same as email? i didn't create a username and can't find a place to do this? does this help link even work>>
#1959 [17:50] <brycen> and downloaded the 64bit java
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#1964 [17:51] <brycen> yes it works
#1965 [17:51] <rymate1234> lol
#1966 [17:51] <brycen> yes the user name is probably the email
#1967 [17:51] <rymate1234> brycen, what's the problem?
#1968 [17:51] <rymate1234> brycen, anne left
#1969 [17:51] <brycen> can not connect
#1970 [17:51] <MikeM> When password and username are correct and purchase is made but you can still not login, what is the next step?
#1971 [17:52] <brycen> it just reads loading news.......
#1972 [17:52] <brycen> and says that I can not connect
#1973 [17:52] <MikeM> continues to say account is not premium
#1974 [17:53] <brycen> I jave updated the java to 64 bit 7
#1975 [17:53] <brycen> and changed the firewall settings to allow java
#1976 [17:53] <brycen> any ideas?
#1977 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> brycen - Uninstall java 7, reinstall with java 6
#1978 [17:54] <rymate1234> MikeM, have you recieved the email to make your username yet?
#1979 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> brycen - Use: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6downloads-1902815.html
#1980 [17:55] <brycen> ok I'll try 6
#1981 [17:55] <MikeM> yes have a username and password. even had a confirmation of a reset password and reset it. made my purchase today for the premium account
#1982 [17:56] <brycen> how do i verify if I need 32 or 64?
#1983 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> brycen - Windows?
#1984 [17:58] <Wug> brycen: 64 bit
#1985 [17:58] <brycen> ok yes windows.
#1986 [17:58] <Wug> my termviewer session just died unexpectedly and wont reconnect
#1987 [17:58] <brycen> thank you i have to close IE to uninstall
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#1990 [17:59] * Wug whacks GreyVulpine
#1990 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> Ow
#1991 [17:59] <Wug> did you check for !
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#1995 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Er, nope
#1996 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> ! wouldn't do the funky Loading news deal
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#2001 [18:04] <Smudgiecat24> My minecraft was deleted, and had to be re installed. Is there any way to retrieve the data?
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#2004 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> A whole 24 seconds..
#2005 [18:06] <cestislife> yay
#2006 [18:06] <cestislife> i was gonna reply
#2007 [18:06] <cestislife> but then
#2008 [18:06] <cestislife> welp.
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#2010 [18:08] <brycen> It was suggested that I download Java 6 instead of the 7 that I just had
#2011 [18:08] <brycen> from the link to the Oracle site how do I know which id the 6 in 64 bit?
#2012 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Windows x64
#2013 [18:09] <brycen> will that be 7 or 6?
#2014 [18:10] <Wug> brycen: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6downloads-1902815.html
#2015 [18:10] <Wug> the last option in the list is the one for windows x64
#2016 [18:11] <brycen> ok it is installing now
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#2021 [18:13] <Wug> Guest95928: lock up again?
#2022 [18:14] <applehead> my prepaid card says too many attempts when I try it. what should I do?
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#2026 [18:16] <thamert> I have submitted my registration but have not reveived my verification email. I waited 2 hours and requested a new verification email and still didn't receive it. I do not have a spam mail box set up on the email I used. Any suggestions?
#2027 [18:17] <rymate1234> oh fuck
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#2030 [18:17] <rymate1234> halp
#2031 [18:17] <rymate1234> my laptop is having graphical glitches
#2032 [18:17] <rymate1234> I'm scared
#2033 [18:17] <rymate1234> wat do
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#2035 [18:18] <rymate1234> hrmm
#2036 [18:18] <rymate1234> its stopped
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#2043 [18:28] <Wug> rymate1234: in minecraft you mean? I chalk it up to java being java.
#2044 [18:28] <rymate1234> nah
#2045 [18:28] <rymate1234> was all over my laptop
#2046 [18:28] <rymate1234> randomly
#2047 [18:28] <rymate1234> seems to be fixed thouh
#2048 [18:29] <rymate1234> *though
#2049 [18:29] <Wug> mine does that sometime
#2050 [18:29] <Wug> apparently my model of laptop is eventually going to die a horrible gpu-peels-off-of-motherboard death
#2051 [18:29] <rymate1234> lol
#2052 [18:29] <Wug> its showing symptoms
#2053 [18:30] <rymate1234> :(
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#2071 [18:46] <Roman> HI I PURCHASED MINECRAFT LIKE 7 DAYS AGO AND I HAVE THE RECEIPT AND CONFORMATION BUT I HAVE NOT YET RECIEVED AN EMAIL TELLING ME TO CREAT A NAME OR DOWNLOAD, HELP! :(
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#2073 [18:47] <NinjaKirby> inafter Cruisin' Speeds
#2074 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> HI, HAVE YOU TRIED LOGGING INTO YOUR MOJANG.COM ACCOUNT TO SEE IF MINECRAFT IS LISTED UNDER "MY GAMES"?
#2075 [18:47] <Roman> YAAAAA
#2076 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> IF IT HAS, YOU CAN GO TO THE "CREATE PROFILE" LINK THERE NEXT TO MINECRAFT
#2077 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> YOU DON'T NEED AN EMAIL TO CREATE YOUR MINECRAFT PROFILE/USERNAME
#2078 [18:48] <NinjaKirby> Why does my mind automatically try to yell, instead of say, all caps. What taught me this.
#2079 [18:48] <cestislife|away> NinjaKirby, Internet.
#2080 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> IF MINECRAFT IS NOT LISTED UNDER "MY GAMES" IN YOUR MOJANG.COM ACCOUNT, THE TRANSACTION DID NOT GO THROUGH SUCCESSFULLY. YOU'LL THEN NEED TO CONTACT YOUR BANK OR FINANCIAL INSTITUTION.
#2081 [18:48] <NinjaKirby> Why is it so tiring to read all caps, and yell in my mind, when it's all in my mind.
#2082 [18:48] <Roman> oh :(
#2083 [18:48] * Gone_Ralex looks for GreyVulpine's volume control
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#2084 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> IS THERE ANY...
#2085 [18:49] * Gone_Ralex turns it down
#2085 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> dangit
#2086 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> lol!
#2087 [18:49] <cestislife|away> You must have scared him away.
#2088 [18:49] * GreyVulpine wanders back out.
#2088 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> He was disturbing my LOTR marathon night.
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#2090 [18:50] <NinjaKirby> 9 hours of TV, or 9 hours of Art?
#2091 [18:50] <matt_> email verification not working
#2092 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> fellowship, two towers, return of the king.
#2093 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Back to back.
#2094 [18:51] <matt_> is there any way for me to make this work so i can download this game
#2095 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> matt_ - Are you checking the correct email address?
#2096 [18:51] <matt_> yep
#2097 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Try a http://minecraft.net/retrievename on all email addresses you use.
#2098 [18:53] <matt_> iim logged in but when i go to verify my email it it says it cannot resend
#2099 [18:53] <matt_> i just looked at that link and it doesnt recognize my email how can i be logged in and not have my email recognized
#2100 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> matt_ - I don't know.
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#2102 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> matt_ - At this point, you'll need to contact Mojang support to get this email verification thing straightened out: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2103 [18:56] <matt_> lol i thought that was where i was
#2104 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> This is a community-run support channel, staffed by volunteers.
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#2106 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> To get official account support, you'll need to file a support ticket at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#2108 [18:57] <Hyoomin> Where am I supposed to submit a crash report?
#2109 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin.com it, then give us the URL
#2110 [18:58] <Hyoomin> There’s no e-mail address to send it to?
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#2113 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> Hyoomin - There is not. You can let us have a look at it, see if there's an issue that can be solved on your end, or we can suggest the bug tracker that you can document it
#2114 [18:59] <GamerBlue53> I downloaded the launcher for minecraft, just bought it yesterday. When I load the launcher, the news section is grey with several random characters. If i login, it stops at 92% and says fatal error 4 Null. Any suggestions?
#2115 [18:59] <Wug> lol
#2116 [18:59] <Hyoomin> You should probably send me straight to the bug tracker, then, it isn’t a hardware issue, and I’m running no mods.
#2117 [19:00] <Wug> just give us the report
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#2119 [19:00] <GamerBlue53> no suggestions?
#2120 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> GamerBlue53 - Usually, fatal error 4 null errors are the result of an antivirus.
#2121 [19:01] <GamerBlue53> like avg?
#2122 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Yes, avg is a well documented AV that does this.
#2123 [19:02] <Wug> Gone_Ralex: the volumes on the back by the coffee machine controller and the flux capacitors
#2124 [19:02] <Hyoomin> http://pastebin.com/L6tqP3xw
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#2126 [19:02] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, yay >_>
#2127 [19:02] * Gone_Ralex goes digging for it
#2127 [19:02] <GamerBlue53> i have 2 pc's with avg, both do the same thing
#2128 [19:02] <fashioneddy> is there where?
#2129 [19:02] * Gone_Ralex gets coffee while doing so
#2129 [19:02] <fashioneddy> I guess so
#2130 [19:03] <fashioneddy> when I run minecraft in creative mode I am usually able to use left mouse click to dig/destroy blocks
#2131 [19:03] <GamerBlue53> should i uninstall avg?
#2132 [19:03] <fashioneddy> my left mouse click now results in a command line at the bottom left of the screen with a "/"
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#2135 [19:04] <Gone_Ralex> fashioneddy, sounds like your controls are changed
#2136 [19:04] <Gone_Ralex> go to "options" in your game and you can change them tere
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#2138 [19:04] <fashioneddy> oh... ok
#2139 [19:04] <Gone_Ralex> there*
#2140 [19:04] <fashioneddy> so I can adjust them myself, thanks :)
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#2142 [19:04] <Gone_Ralex> yes
#2143 [19:04] <fashioneddy> super
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#2146 [19:07] <fashioneddy> ok, so I've gone to the options menu, my 12 yr old came into the room and confessed to changing them :P
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#2148 [19:07] <Gone_Ralex> fashioneddy, heh, yeah, under controls, you can change what does what
#2149 [19:07] <fashioneddy> he said he was trying to get some more "action" out of the game :P
#2150 [19:07] <Gone_Ralex> the key / is usually what brings up the thing you are seeing now
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#2152 [19:08] <fashioneddy> right
#2153 [19:08] <fashioneddy> I'll fiddle with it now, bye all and thanks bunches
#2154 [19:08] <fashioneddy> exit
#2155 [19:08] <fashioneddy> stage left . . . .
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#2157 [19:08] <Bobbo> fashioneddy: Rush fan?
#2158 [19:08] <Bobbo> Bah
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#2160 [19:11] <Hyoomin> So, is that it, then? You have my report?
#2161 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Hyoomin - Where did you post it?
#2162 [19:12] <Hyoomin> On Pastepin, like I was asked. :P
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#2164 [19:12] <Gone_Ralex> <Hyoomin> http://pastebin.com/L6tqP3xw
#2165 [19:12] <Hyoomin> Honestly, e-mail would be so much better. :P
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#2167 [19:13] <Lutzee> pastebin is public, anyone can see
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#2169 [19:13] <eftusk> not sure if Im in the right place
#2170 [19:13] <eftusk> Tech support?
#2171 [19:13] <Lutzee> Yes
#2172 [19:14] <eftusk> thanks
#2173 [19:14] <eftusk> I downloaded Minecraft for the kids, and the computer crashed 12/30. I need to reinstall the game
#2174 [19:14] <eftusk> had to wipe the hard drive
#2175 [19:14] <Lutzee> Er...
#2176 [19:15] <Lutzee> Why did you feel you had to whipe the hard drive?
#2177 [19:15] <eftusk> wonderful windows died hard
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#2179 [19:15] <eftusk> I think Bruce Willis was involved
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#2181 [19:16] <heyitscac> my minecraft sounds dont work and i am on a macbook pro laptop with mountain lion
#2182 [19:16] <eftusk> is there a link I can go to or site?
#2183 [19:16] <heyitscac> ?
#2184 [19:16] <heyitscac> for what
#2185 [19:16] <eftusk> I cant seem to find an area to reinstall the game
#2186 [19:16] <Lutzee> eftusk: well if minecraft isnt installed, you can download it from minecraft.net/download
#2187 [19:16] <eftusk> reinstall heyitscac
#2188 [19:17] <heyitscac> i have done that
#2189 [19:17] <heyitscac> 8 times
#2190 [19:17] <eftusk> ok
#2191 [19:17] <eftusk> will try
#2192 [19:17] <heyitscac> and they still dont work
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#2194 [19:17] <heyitscac> what do i do?
#2195 [19:17] <cestislife> heyitscac, stay in game for about 15 mins
#2196 [19:18] <eftusk> Thanks Lutzee that will do
#2197 [19:18] <heyitscac> okay
#2198 [19:18] <eftusk> got the exe file
#2199 [19:18] <cestislife> The sounds takes time to download.
#2200 [19:18] <lynn> I downloaded Minecraft & saved it to my Desktop. But when I try to open it, it won't work. Help?
#2201 [19:18] <heyitscac> is there a crash error lynn?
#2202 [19:18] <Wug> Hyoomin: you're right about that probably being a bug
#2203 [19:18] <Hyoomin> Lutzee, that’s why e-mail is better.
#2204 [19:18] <lynn> No, it doesn't say anything. It just doesn't open
#2205 [19:18] <heyitscac> Okay so i am in game
#2206 [19:18] <Wug> ill pass it on to marc
#2207 [19:18] <Hyoomin> So I’m done, then?
#2208 [19:19] <lynn> What do I do?
#2209 [19:19] <Lutzee> Hyoomin: Nope, sharing errors publically means everyone can have an input on the cause of the errors
#2210 [19:19] <Wug> when did this happen? were you by any chance using a trader?
#2211 [19:19] <heyitscac> I am in game so now what
#2212 [19:19] <cestislife> lynn, do you have Java installed?
#2213 [19:19] <cestislife> heyitscac, just wait, sounds are downloaded while you're in game
#2214 [19:19] <heyitscac> some sounds work but others dont
#2215 [19:19] <heyitscac> like picking up blocks
#2216 [19:19] <cestislife> If you still don't have sounds after 15 mins, probably something blocking their downloads.
#2217 [19:19] <lynn> Yes, I have Java, & it works with all of my other Java programs
#2218 [19:20] <heyitscac> or breaking/placing certain blocks
#2219 [19:20] <cestislife> lynn, did you try the Linux launcher and see if that runs?
#2220 [19:20] <Hyoomin> A bug I get with a piece of software is between me and the software developer. There’s no reason I should be required to air our mutual dirty laundry to the public.
#2221 [19:20] <cestislife> heyitscac, again, patience, the sounds take time to download.
#2222 [19:20] <lynn> Linux Launcher? What's that?
#2223 [19:20] <heyitscac> but I have played minecraft for years
#2224 [19:20] <cestislife> ??> lynn linux/client
#2225 [19:20] <VoxelHead> lynn: (linux/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
#2226 [19:20] <heyitscac> much more than 15 minutes
#2227 [19:20] <cestislife> heyitscac, so the sounds were present before?
#2228 [19:21] <Hyoomin> If the software developer doesn’t fix it, I may then choose to make it public, but I see no reason why I should have to go out on a limb just to post a bug.
#2229 [19:21] <heyitscac> Some where
#2230 [19:21] <heyitscac> some were
#2231 [19:21] <heyitscac> *
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#2233 [19:21] <lynn> Okay, let me try it. I'll be right back.
#2234 [19:21] <Hyoomin> Further, making people ask where to post the bug is pretty rediculous.
#2235 [19:21] <heyitscac> is there anyway to fix it
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#2237 [19:21] <cestislife> ??> heyitscac mac/reinst
#2238 [19:21] <VoxelHead> heyitscac: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
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#2240 [19:21] <VoxelHead> heyitscac: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2241 [19:21] <Wug> Hyoomin: just so you know
#2242 [19:21] <heyitscac> i already reinstalled
#2243 [19:22] <Wug> this channel consists entirely of volunteers
#2244 [19:22] <heyitscac> 8 times
#2245 [19:22] <Wug> nobody here works for mojang
#2246 [19:22] <Wug> also, lots of problems people have are fixable
#2247 [19:22] <Wug> some things that look like bugs arent
#2248 [19:22] <Gone_Ralex> and it looks like a corrupted world
#2249 [19:23] <lynn> What Compatibility mode should i be running it in?
#2250 [19:23] <cestislife> lynn, you shouldn't need to run on any compatability mode.
#2251 [19:23] <cestislife> compatibility*
#2252 [19:23] <heyitscac> I have reinstalled it time and time again and it still doesnt work
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#2254 [19:24] <lynn> Oh, okay. Well.. I downloaded the Linux thing, & tried to open Minecraft. But it still isn't working
#2255 [19:24] <cestislife> Odd.
#2256 [19:24] <Bobbo> I'm intrigued by Hyoomin 'bug'...
#2257 [19:24] <Gone_Ralex> Bobbo, how so?
#2258 [19:25] <lynn> Help or suggestioins?
#2259 [19:25] <lynn> suggestions*
#2260 [19:25] <Wug> lynn: when you say it "wont work"
#2261 [19:25] <Wug> what do you mean exactly
#2262 [19:25] <Wug> does it simply not open?
#2263 [19:26] <Bobbo> Gone_Ralex: Namely what it is and why "i should have to go out on a limb just to post a bug"...
#2264 [19:26] <Gone_Ralex> Bobbo, oh
#2265 [19:26] <Gone_Ralex> looks like failed villager interactions
#2266 [19:27] <Hyoomin> Well, again, Wug, I didn’t ask, “Is this a bug?” I asked, “Where do I submit this crash report?”; and apparently, I STILL don’t have an answer to that. :P
#2267 [19:27] <Wug> that was what i thought
#2268 [19:27] <Wug> Hyoomin: mojang employs like 9 people
#2269 [19:27] <Hyoomin> Not the point, Wug.
#2270 [19:27] <Wug> they dont have the resources to manage a bug tracker
#2271 [19:27] <cestislife> Uh
#2272 [19:27] <Hyoomin> And yet, they tell us to submit bug reports.
#2273 [19:27] <lynn> I mean... I bought, then downloaded the game. I saved it to my desktop. & When I tried to install/open it. It simply wouldn't not open. Then I tried to turn on compatibility with Windows 95. Nothing. So I turned off compatibilty mode. & Downloaded the Linux thing, & tried to open the game again, & still nothing
#2274 [19:28] <Wug> by that I mean human resources to keep up with it
#2275 [19:28] <Bobbo> Wug has fair points... Public relations and support is a bitch.
#2276 [19:28] <Wug> lynn: do you have teamviewer
#2277 [19:28] <Hyoomin> Regardless, I would prefer an answer to my original question rather than the run-around you are still giving me.
#2278 [19:28] <lynn> I don't know... what is that?
#2279 [19:28] <Gone_Ralex> Hyoomin, use a new world
#2280 [19:28] <Gone_Ralex> does it do it then?
#2281 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Hyoomin - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/409117-where-can-i-view-or-submit-bugs-
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#2283 [19:30] <Hyoomin> Thank you, Greyvulpine.
#2284 [19:30] <Hyoomin> And apparently, the bug tracker is down for maintenance... is that why you’ve been blocking?
#2285 [19:30] <lynn> Does anyone have any suggestions that could help me??
#2286 [19:30] <Lutzee> Also, its an index error to do with the screen on mac
#2287 [19:31] <Lutzee> Out of every mac error arround atm, its to do with rendering the screen
#2288 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Hyoomin - As live support is always better than posting it on some bug tracker and hoping to get it read, or even to dig through the bug tickets yourself, we'd hope to provide some live correspondance here.
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#2290 [19:31] <lynn> If I can't get the game to work. Is there a way to delete it AND get my money back?? I've only had it for a few hours.
#2291 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Hyoomin - But if you wish to do it yourself, the link to the bug tracker is there, feel free to look through it on your own time when it is up
#2292 [19:32] <Wug> Hyoomin: it helps filter out the droves of bug reports that would pertain to mods and other things that are not the responsibility of mojang
#2293 [19:32] <cestislife> ??> lynn refund
#2294 [19:32] <VoxelHead> lynn: (refund) This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#2295 [19:32] <Wug> ??> lynn teamviewer
#2296 [19:32] <VoxelHead> lynn: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#2297 [19:32] <VoxelHead> lynn: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2298 [19:33] <lynn> Yeah, I think I might just get a refund if I can't fix it
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#2300 [19:33] <cestislife> lynn, Wug is offering remote assistance if you would let him.
#2301 [19:34] <lynn> Yeah, I think I might just get a refund if I can't fix it
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#2303 [19:34] <Wug> suit yourself
#2304 [19:34] <Hyoomin> I understand your intent, but you should remember that you aren’t supposed to decide how you would prefer to help, but rather, to do what is asked of you.
#2305 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Hyoomin - So be it.
#2306 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Hyoomin - Good luck.
#2307 [19:34] <Bobbo> Lolol
#2308 [19:34] <Hyoomin> You too.
#2309 [19:35] <Bobbo> Hyoomin: We're volunteers here...
#2310 [19:35] <Bobbo> Well, they are.
#2311 [19:35] <Bobbo> I'm just randomly here.
#2312 [19:35] <Bobbo> We (they), owe you nothing.
#2313 [19:35] <Lutzee> We are not told to do anything
#2314 [19:35] <Hyoomin> Yes, but that doesn’t mean you get to decide what sort of help someone gets.
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#2316 [19:35] <cestislife> Well.
#2317 [19:35] <cestislife> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/364794-technical-support-resources
#2318 [19:35] <Wug> Hyoomin: we're going to drop this now
#2319 [19:36] <Hyoomin> Yes, fine.
#2320 [19:36] <lynn_> Is there a way to play the game online without having to download it to my computer?
#2321 [19:36] <cestislife> lynn_, you have to download the game to play it.
#2322 [19:36] <Lutzee> The game will always be downloaded onto your PC either way
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#2325 [19:37] <Wug> lynn_: I can fix it if you want. I suspect that uninstalling all versions of java and installing the most recent will fix it
#2326 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> It will.
#2327 [19:37] <lynn_> Really?
#2328 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> But lynn_ wants a refund, so
#2329 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> ?? refund
#2330 [19:37] <VoxelHead> refund: This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#2331 [19:38] <lynn_> Yes, I was just about to finish filling out the form to get my refund. BUT. if you think reinstalling Java will help.. I guess I can try.
#2332 [19:38] <lynn_> How do I do it?
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#2334 [19:39] <Wug> lynn_: go to add/remove programs in the control panel
#2335 [19:39] <Wug> (I'm leaving after this btw, I've been here for like 6 hours and am hungry)
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#2337 [19:39] <YinTaiYang> when i do /pex commands
#2338 [19:40] <YinTaiYang> it says internal error
#2339 [19:40] <lynn_> Okay, but bare with me, please. I'm not good with computers.
#2340 [19:40] <YinTaiYang> can someone help with this/
#2341 [19:40] <Wug> YinTaiYang: pex is an addon and not part of minecraft
#2342 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> YinTaiYang - We do not assist with pex here.
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#2344 [19:40] <YinTaiYang> Oh
#2345 [19:40] <YinTaiYang> where would i go for thjat
#2346 [19:40] <YinTaiYang> *that
#2347 [19:40] <Lutzee> #bukkit
#2348 [19:40] <Wug> YinTaiYang: #permissionsex
#2349 [19:40] <YinTaiYang> TY
#2350 [19:40] <Lutzee> or ^
#2351 [19:40] <lynn_> Okay, found it
#2352 [19:40] <cestislife> They need to have a better name.
#2353 [19:41] <Wug> lynn_: uninstall any version of java you find
#2354 [19:42] <lynn_> okay, it's in removing them. It'll be a couple of minutes.
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#2356 [19:42] <lynn_> Thank you for helping, by the way
#2357 [19:42] <Wug> lynn_: ok
#2358 [19:42] <Wug> in the meantime you can download the installer you'll need from here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
#2359 [19:42] <Wug> yours is the one labelled Windows x86 Offline
#2360 [19:43] <Wug> once the existing ones are uninstalled, install that one
#2361 [19:43] <Wug> chances are minecraft will work after that. if it doesn't there are other things we can try
#2362 [19:43] <Wug> chances are minecraft will work after that. if it doesn't there are other things we can try
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#2365 [19:44] <lynn> Sorry my laptop freaked out. Are you still here?
#2366 [19:44] <Bobbo> Wug: They didn't think too much when naming that channel, did they? XD
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#2368 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> lynn - We are
#2369 [19:44] <lynn> great :)
#2370 [19:45] <Wug> Bobbo: yeah I know
#2371 [19:45] <Wug> #PermissionsEx
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#2373 [19:45] <lynn> My Java is done
#2374 [19:46] <lynn> Now what?
#2375 [19:47] <cestislife> Try to launch the game.
#2376 [19:47] <Wug> lynn: youve removed the old ones and installed the new one? try minecraft again
#2377 [19:47] <lynn> No, I just removed all the Javas. How do I get the new one?
#2378 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> lynn - Then download java from Wug's link
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#2380 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> <@Wug> in the meantime you can download the installer you'll need from here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
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#2382 [19:48] <Wug> yours is the one labelled "Windows x86 Offline"
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#2388 [19:49] <heyitscac> my minecraft sounds dont work
#2389 [19:49] <heyitscac> i play on a macbook pro
#2390 [19:49] <heyitscac> on mountain lion
#2391 [19:49] <lynn> Okay, so I'm looking for Windows x86 Offline, & download it?
#2392 [19:49] <heyitscac> *some sounds work while others dont
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#2394 [19:49] <Wug> lynn: yep, its 4th from the end
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#2396 [19:50] <lynn> Okay, it's going to take about 3 minutes to finish
#2397 [19:51] <Wug> it will probably take less than that
#2398 [19:51] <Wug> it never takes as long as it sayd
#2399 [19:51] <Wug> s*
#2400 [19:52] <Wug> or do you mean the download? that will probably be right
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#2402 [19:52] <lynn> I think I'm talking about the download. It said 3 min & 30 sec. Hopefully it won't take that long
#2403 [19:52] <lynn> I think I'm talking about the download. It said 3 min & 30 sec. Hopefully it won't take that long
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#2405 [19:53] <lynn> How do y'all know so much about Minecraft & how to fix problems people are having with it?
#2406 [19:53] <Bobbo> Because they sit on here for days on end. :)
#2407 [19:54] <lynn> Lol, so much like my sister then. She's a game video game addict. She's the one who got me interested in this.
#2408 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Many have been here since the start of Minecraft, since Alpha and beta. We've seen its problems, and those of us with technical backgrounds, see it as a challenge to solve it.
#2409 [19:55] <lynn> How long has Minecraft been around?
#2410 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Bit over 2 years.
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#2412 [19:55] <lynn> Really? I only just heard of it.. oh... 2, at most 3, months ago
#2413 [19:55] <acura2012> hello i need help
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#2415 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> acura2012 - With?
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#2417 [19:57] <cestislife> heh
#2418 [19:57] <acura2012> i need to find out how i can fiqure out what my pass for minecraft is i had to change it a while ago cause i got hacked now i cant rememebr it so i can change my skin
#2419 [19:57] <GamerBlue53> my news box on the launcher is grey with text in it like "ÁCöÿºžz", and when i load the game, it stops at 92 percent
#2420 [19:58] <cestislife> acura2012, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#2421 [19:58] <acura2012> thank you
#2422 [19:59] <lynn> Done downloading
#2423 [19:59] <Wug> lynn: ok, run it
#2424 [20:00] <Wug> try minecraft again once its done
#2425 [20:00] <lynn> Okay, i'll try. Be back in a few minutes with results
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#2427 [20:00] <GamerBlue53> any suggestions?
#2428 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> Kangaroo Sanctuary
#2429 [20:02] <Wug> GamerBlue53: have you tried anything so far
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#2432 [20:03] <GamerBlue53> tried deleting the minecraft folder in the &appdata&, and tried redownloading it
#2433 [20:03] <lynn> Oh my goodness, y'all are AMAZING!!!!!! Thank you, thank you, Thank You! It works now :)
#2434 [20:03] <Wug> lynn: no problem
#2435 [20:03] <Wug> GamerBlue53: do you have avg?
#2436 [20:03] <GamerBlue53> people are saying AVG is a problem, but i don't know how to disable it
#2437 [20:03] <Ferris> alright... prepare yourselves
#2438 [20:04] <Ferris> my mouse (both laptop trackpad and microsoft arcmouse, wireless) infinitely rightclicks ingame
#2439 [20:04] <Ferris> so i can open doors and close them infinitely
#2440 [20:04] <Ferris> is there a way to resolve this?
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#2442 [20:04] <Wug> Ferris: you could try updating lwjgl
#2443 [20:05] <Wug> GamerBlue53: http://en.kioskea.net/faq/26295-avg-disable-linkscanner
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#2446 [20:05] <GamerBlue53> ok, i'll let you know in a minute
#2447 [20:05] <cestislife> ??> Ferris java/lwjgl
#2448 [20:05] <VoxelHead> Ferris: (java/lwjgl) See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL for a guide on manually updating to a new version of LWJGL.
#2449 [20:06] <Ferris> im installing the update now, thank you for the suggestion
#2450 [20:07] <GamerBlue53> tried it, didn't work.
#2451 [20:07] <Wug> GamerBlue53: do you have more than 1 AV installed?
#2452 [20:08] <Wug> they tend to conflict in situations like that
#2453 [20:08] <GamerBlue53> no i dont think so
#2454 [20:09] <Wug> well im out of suggestions then
#2455 [20:09] <Wug> all I can think of is to maybe redownload the launcher and reinstall java
#2456 [20:09] <GamerBlue53> tried that.
#2457 [20:09] <cestislife> Special characters, maybe?
#2458 [20:09] <Wug> nah special characters does different weird things
#2459 [20:09] <GamerBlue53> special characters?
#2460 [20:09] <Wug> do you have a ! in your windows username?
#2461 [20:10] <cestislife> Or like, any other non alphanumeric characters
#2462 [20:10] <GamerBlue53> nope
#2463 [20:10] <Wug> not that then
#2464 [20:10] <cestislife> Hmm
#2465 [20:10] <Wug> I'm out of suggestions unfortunately
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#2467 [20:10] <Wug> try removing all java installations and installing the most recent
#2468 [20:10] <GamerBlue53> ïŠÝï|ì1tÁfvÙÜÆ5wA4Ž <---this is all over my news box in the launcher
#2469 [20:10] <Shadow_Yury> ok is there anybody from Mojang here ?
#2470 [20:10] <Wug> its a blanket solution but maybe youll get lucky
#2471 [20:10] <Lutzee> Shadow_Yury: no
#2472 [20:10] <Ferris> infinite door opening/closing continues! :D
#2473 [20:11] <Lutzee> Shadow_Yury: why do you wish to convers with a mojang employee?
#2474 [20:11] <Wug> Ferris: do you have a program called comcast constant guard installed?
#2475 [20:11] <Ferris> it does not occur in any software outside of minecraft
#2476 [20:11] <Shadow_Yury> because I really need help
#2477 [20:11] <Ferris> negative
#2478 [20:11] <GamerBlue53> ill check
#2479 [20:11] <Lutzee> Shadow_Yury: what is the problem?
#2480 [20:11] <Shadow_Yury> and they are the only one to resolve my problem
#2481 [20:11] <GamerBlue53> no i dont
#2482 [20:11] <Wug> Shadow_Yury: try me
#2483 [20:12] <Shadow_Yury> the problem is that I bought the game accidentally
#2484 [20:12] <Shadow_Yury> instead of using a gift code
#2485 [20:12] <Shadow_Yury> that someone give to me
#2486 [20:12] <Shadow_Yury> that's why I need to contact Mojang
#2487 [20:12] <GamerBlue53> that sucks
#2488 [20:12] <cestislife> You can request a refund.
#2489 [20:13] <Shadow_Yury> I try
#2490 [20:13] <Lutzee> Or just sell the gift code to a friend..
#2491 [20:13] <cestislife> ^ or this
#2492 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> Shadow_Yury - See: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#2493 [20:13] <Shadow_Yury> but nobody answer me...
#2494 [20:13] <Ferris> hilight for any information youd like to share within the next five minutes or so brb
#2495 [20:13] <Shadow_Yury> I've already send a message to Mojang Support
#2496 [20:14] <cestislife> Then all you can do now, is wait, Shadow_Yury
#2497 [20:14] <Lutzee> Bear in mind mojang currently has about a 3 week email backlog
#2498 [20:14] <Shadow_Yury> I hope that something will happen
#2499 [20:14] <GamerBlue53> i. cant. fix. this.
#2500 [20:14] <Shadow_Yury> but anyway thanks for the advice guys
#2501 [20:14] <Shadow_Yury> really appreciated
#2502 [20:15] <Wug> GamerBlue53: try on another computer?
#2503 [20:16] <Shadow_Yury> just like that, do you know how much time I have to wait before I get any answer ?
#2504 [20:16] <Shadow_Yury> or response
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#2506 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Shadow_Yury - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#2507 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> 3 weeks
#2508 [20:16] <GamerBlue53> i tried it on my other pc, same exact problem. tried it on a friends mac, and it works.
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#2510 [20:17] <Shadow_Yury> well ok then
#2511 [20:17] <Shadow_Yury> I'll go now
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#2513 [20:17] <Wug> GamerBlue53: can you try it on a different network?
#2514 [20:18] <GamerBlue53> what do you mean?
#2515 [20:19] <Wug> go to a friends house with a laptop or something and try there
#2516 [20:20] <Wug> otherwise I'm out of suggestions
#2517 [20:20] <GamerBlue53> like i said, its not the network, since it worked on my friends mac on my network.
#2518 [20:22] <Ferris> I've returned : )
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#2522 [20:29] <meltzen> hello, anyone interested in helping me with some minecraft questions?
#2523 [20:29] <cestislife> ?? ask
#2524 [20:29] <Lutzee> ?? ask
#2525 [20:29] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2526 [20:29] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2527 [20:29] * cestislife prays Voxelhead only said that once
#2527 [20:30] <cestislife> mkay good.
#2528 [20:30] <Lutzee> -VoxelHead- I just said that less than 15 seconds ago. :P
#2529 [20:30] <cestislife> phew.
#2530 [20:30] <meltzen> well, im new to minecraft, stumbled across minecraft by watching a youtube video, bought game and here i am
#2531 [20:30] <cestislife> Hello there.
#2532 [20:30] <meltzen> i started up a world, built some stuff heh...but i found myself bored only playing single player
#2533 [20:31] <cestislife> ?? smp/servers
#2534 [20:31] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2535 [20:31] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#2536 [20:31] <cestislife> ?? smp
#2537 [20:31] <cestislife> smp: Survival Multi-Player
#2538 [20:31] <cestislife> :D
#2539 [20:32] <meltzen> i think what im interested in atm is creative mode, i think i'd enjoying learning the game, building basics and such, and was hoping someone would like to tag along and show me the ropes
#2540 [20:34] <meltzen> heh, new minecraft players are treated like lepers, hehe i get it
#2541 [20:35] <cestislife> Actually, meltzen this channel is more leaned towards technical help.
#2542 [20:36] <meltzen> i see.... any idea where i might go to find people who would be interested in a co-op creative build
#2543 [20:36] <cestislife> Like I said, browse the links I gave you above.
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#2545 [20:40] <OrangeWyvern10> I have minecraft on a mac. And when I try to play it, it says this file is damged and it wont let me play.
#2546 [20:40] <Gone_Ralex> ??> OrangeWyvern10 mac/gatekeeper
#2547 [20:40] <VoxelHead> OrangeWyvern10: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#2548 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> OrangeWyvern10 - Read this, change Gatekeeper's setting to "Anywhere". http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#2549 [20:41] <Gone_Ralex> >_>
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#2553 [20:45] <adcomkiller> i have lost the abiltity to navigate using my keyboard. I have no idea how to restore this. any thoughts?
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#2555 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> ??> adcomkiller deloptions
#2556 [20:46] <VoxelHead> adcomkiller: (deloptions) You may need to reset your Minecraft settings to default. To do so, open your .minecraft directory and delete the files called 'options.txt'.
#2557 [20:47] <adcomkiller> ok i am using windows 8. where is that folder?
#2558 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#2559 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. Go inside. Delete the options.txt file. Then run minecraft again and log back in
#2560 [20:48] <adcomkiller> ok let me try
#2561 [20:48] <adcomkiller> i just installed win 8 so i am not very used to it yet
#2562 [20:49] <adcomkiller> ok got it
#2563 [20:49] <adcomkiller> let me try to start up again. thanks
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#2582 [21:34] <crunch401> hi need help with bug: "out of memory"
#2583 [21:34] <panda3> i cant get mods cause apparently i dont have certain files for it. how do i get those files?
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#2595 [21:51] <eldragon> i'm having trouble with buying minecraft
#2596 [21:52] <eldragon> is paying by paypal unavaidable?
#2597 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Only for buying gift codes is paypal unavailable
#2598 [21:54] <eldragon> odd, i checked the forums and found some other people with the same problem
#2599 [21:54] <eldragon> i can't but it for myself
#2600 [21:56] <eldragon> buy*
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#2604 [22:05] <eldragon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1161241-problem-buying-minecraft-with-paypal/
#2605 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Is paypal denying your transaction?
#2606 [22:05] <Apex> What is minecraft?
#2607 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Apex - https://minecraft.net/
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#2609 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> eldragon - If paypal is denying your transaction, the most common cause is because of the bank denying the transaction
#2610 [22:07] <eldragon> the money is already made over to my pay pal account
#2611 [22:07] <eldragon> i received a mail
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#2613 [22:08] <eldragon> The transfer from your bank account to your PayPal account for the amount of **,** EUR is now complete. The funds are now reflected in your PayPal account balance.
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#2615 [22:09] <Apex> Is there a free minecraft ?
#2616 [22:09] <kloe_rocks> i just purchased minecraft but when i log into my world it wont let me mine build or kill, can you tell me how to fix this?
#2617 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Apex - YEs.
#2618 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#2619 [22:09] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#2620 [22:10] <kloe_rocks> no not a demo, the full version
#2621 [22:10] <kloe_rocks> i had the demo and it ran perfectly lol
#2622 [22:11] <eldragon> Apr
#2623 [22:11] <eldragon> Apex - it's worth the 20 bucks ;)
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#2625 [22:12] <Apex> 20 bills damn. Is it like Warcraft n all that
#2626 [22:12] <eldragon> ( played it at a friends, first thing i did afterwards was put some money on my PP account to get it )
#2627 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Nope. You pay once, you get the game for life
#2628 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> No subscription fees
#2629 [22:13] <eldragon> lol
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#2632 [22:14] <Apex> Well I'm on a phone. My laptop got stolen last year :(
#2633 [22:15] <kloe_rocks> if my minecraft will not allow me break or build and is asking for commands what do i enter?
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#2635 [22:15] <Apex> Put /massacre
#2636 [22:15] <Apex> Lol
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#2638 [22:16] <kloe_rocks> lol no seriously what command do i use to mine?
#2639 [22:17] <Apex> No clue. I didn't even know what minecraft was till about 2 min ago
#2640 [22:17] <Apex> Never played
#2641 [22:17] <Apex> It
#2642 [22:17] <kloe_rocks> kk thanks
#2643 [22:18] <Apex> No
#2644 [22:18] <Apex> Problemo
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#2646 [22:18] <eldragon> so, any ideas on my problem?
#2647 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> eldragon - Log into your mojang.com account, do you see minecraft listed under "My Games"?
#2648 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> eldragon: It sounds like you may be in adventure mode, instead of survival mode
#2649 [22:20] <eldragon> where do i see "my games"?
#2650 [22:21] <Ferris> anyone have any insight into my infinite rightclick issue?
#2651 [22:22] <eldragon> no, minecraft isn't listed in my games
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#2655 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> eldragon: From what you're saying, that account which you logged in with, hasn't yet been paid for
#2656 [22:24] <eldragon> no, i know, that's my problem -.-'
#2657 [22:24] <eldragon> i'm having the same problem as listed here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1161241-problem-buying-minecraft-with-paypal/
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#2659 [22:25] <ubi313> Hey, I'm trying to play the Demo and keep hitting this crash:
#2660 [22:25] <ubi313> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Don't be sad. I'll do better next time, I promise! Time: 2/3/13 9:20 PM Description: Failed to start game org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not get the JAWT interface at org.lwjgl.opengl.AWTSurfaceLock.lockAndInitHandle(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.AWTSurfaceLock.access$100(AWTSurfaceLock.java:49) at org.lwjgl.opengl.AWTSurfaceLock$1.run(AWTSurfaceLock.java:89) at java.security.AccessContro
#2661 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> ubi313: Don't domp that stuff here!
#2662 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> ??> ubi313 pastebin
#2663 [22:26] <VoxelHead> ubi313: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#2666 [22:27] <ubi313> Okay.
#2667 [22:27] <me> cant update minecraft
#2668 [22:27] <ubi313> http://pastebin.com/sv1LTbZz
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#2671 [22:27] <Lucy22> Hi
#2672 [22:27] <Lucy22> can someone help me
#2673 [22:27] <DiskDaemon> ubi313: Mojang seems to have an article here for you http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-game-
#2674 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> ??> ubi313 error/jawt
#2675 [22:28] <VoxelHead> ubi313: (error/jawt) If you're getting a Java crash referencing a JAWT interface exception, it may be an issue with one of the libraries Minecraft uses. http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php?topic=4326.0 has a lot of analysis of this problem. A similar thread which indicates a fix may be available soon can be seen here: http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,4711.120.html
#2676 [22:28] <Lucy22> I'm at my parents house and I want to play minecraft, it has windows xp and I downloaded it and when i open it it just closes the window
#2677 [22:28] <Guest94227> cant update minecraft
#2678 [22:29] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#2679 [22:30] <Guest94227> i havent installed sntivirus. i am on gwlaxy tab 2
#2680 [22:30] <Guest94227> galaxy
#2681 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> Is that the pocket edition version of minecraft?
#2682 [22:31] <Guest94227> it says my filtering doesnt allow update but i turned off all filters... andvyes pocket version
#2683 [22:31] <DiskDaemon> Guest94227: Someone else may have to help you with that
#2684 [22:32] <Guest94227> why is that and who
#2685 [22:33] <eldragon> reminder ( :P ): i'm having the same problem as listed here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1161241-problem-buying-minecraft-with-paypal/
#2686 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> Guest94227: Because I have little to no experience with the pocket edition
#2687 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> eldragon: Mojang seems to have an article here for you http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-game-
#2688 [22:33] <Guest94227> oh.. i thought this was a minecraft support forum ...
#2689 [22:34] <Guest94227> u do not work for minecraft?
#2690 [22:34] <Gone_Ralex> this is not really a forum
#2691 [22:34] <Gone_Ralex> no one here works for mojang
#2692 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> Guest94227: It is, but its not staffed by anybody frmot he company who is paid to provide support
#2693 [22:34] <Guest94227> oh.. where can i get help?
#2694 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2695 [22:35] <Guest94227> ok..thx
#2696 [22:35] <Gone_Ralex> can also browser or post here as well: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/175-pocket-edition-support/
#2697 [22:35] <Gone_Ralex> browse, see if someone there could help you as well
#2698 [22:36] <eldragon> @DiskDaemon: that's the whole problem, I CAN'T buy the game because of the error
#2699 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> eldragon: You'll have to catch me up - what is the error that you are having?
#2700 [22:37] <eldragon> same problem as listed here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1161241-problem-buying-minecraft-with-paypal/
#2701 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> eldragon: It says to please contact your merchant, right?
#2702 [22:39] <eldragon> yes
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#2705 [22:40] <eldragon> but i thought it would be better to first ask around ;)
#2706 [22:40] <DiskDaemon> The do that, contact Mojang about your payment issue, which is linked at the bottom of that help.mojang.com page
#2707 [22:41] <eldragon> ok, thanks for replying
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#2712 [22:48] <MiseryRed> I have been playing Minecraft on my pc for almost a year with no trouble. I had built a huge castle with lots of things inside. Yesterday my Minecraft crashed and I came back to find the entire inside of my castle gone. Why did this happen? I would think I would lose anything I did that day but not a years worth of stuff. Someone said if I didn't back it up its gone. Can you do that save more than one? I looked all over
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#2714 [22:51] <sketchydubz> hello
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#2716 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> ?? save/null
#2717 [22:52] <VoxelHead> save/null: If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#2718 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> Oh, they've gone
#2719 [22:52] <VoxelHead> save/null: MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
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#2733 [23:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Eh
#2734 [23:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyone here in need of helping? :)
#2735 [23:22] <cestislife> I'm pretty sure someone will shoutout if they do
#2736 [23:22] <cestislife> :P
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#2742 [23:31] <Ferris> CrusaderDeleters: I have that problem ive been asking about for a while
#2743 [23:31] <Ferris> idk if you've seen it... I have infinite rightclick in minecraft
#2744 [23:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Hrm
#2745 [23:31] <Ferris> making building and opening/closing doors problematic
#2746 [23:31] <CrusaderDeleters> OS?
#2747 [23:31] <Ferris> have to time it just right so i get an odd number of clicks in...
#2748 [23:32] <Ferris> Windows 7, updated to latest uhh (random letters with a j and maybe an l in it)
#2749 [23:32] <cestislife> LWJGL.
#2750 [23:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#2751 [23:32] <Ferris> upcarrot
#2752 [23:32] <cestislife> It's the libraries that deal with minecraft input, sound, etc.
#2753 [23:32] <CrusaderDeleters> I know
#2754 [23:32] <cestislife> Was pointing that towards Ferris
#2755 [23:32] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm not sure, but that may be the cause of the problem. Ferris, could you try to force update minecraft?
#2756 [23:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Aah
#2757 [23:33] <Ferris> sure
#2758 [23:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Also
#2759 [23:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Steam'
#2760 [23:33] <Ferris> tsteam?
#2761 [23:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Woops. Steam's the worst for trying to reset your password via email.
#2762 [23:33] <cestislife> Never had to, so yeah.
#2763 [23:33] <CrusaderDeleters> *twitches* Could not find my Username.
#2764 [23:34] <Ferris> is there a button for force update, CrusaderDeleters?
#2765 [23:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Actually, Yes.
#2766 [23:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Before you login, you hit options right below the login button, then click force update.
#2767 [23:34] <CrusaderDeleters> It will gray itself out and say "Will force!"
#2768 [23:34] <cestislife> ?? forceupdate
#2769 [23:34] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2770 [23:34] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2771 [23:34] <Ferris> got it! :)
#2772 [23:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Derp, Cestis. XD
#2773 [23:35] <cestislife> all hail our bot overlords
#2774 [23:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Wait... Did I miss the war? ._.
#2775 [23:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Skynet already took over earth?
#2776 [23:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Man. I hate trying to remember passwords
#2777 [23:36] <Ferris> nope. my doors still open and shut ridiculously fast
#2778 [23:36] <CrusaderDeleters> I have two base passwords. One never changes, and the other MAY have a capital first letter, and one or three numbers at the end. GAH
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#2780 [23:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Ferris: Have you Overclocked your processor? If you don't understand a word I just said, then nevermind.
#2781 [23:37] <Ferris> i understand, but never have overclocked my laptop processor
#2782 [23:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright, I'm dealing with someone who actually knows his Lingo. ;)
#2783 [23:38] <CrusaderDeleters> I just had something in mind, but forgot. ERG
#2784 [23:38] <Ferris> i certainly was unfamiliar with lwjgl before i came here o.o
#2785 [23:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Same here.
#2786 [23:38] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm still unfamiliar with it.
#2787 [23:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Aside from that: I remembered. What's your Java version?
#2788 [23:39] <Ferris> 6.9.200.2, if the properties attached to the exe are correct
#2789 [23:39] <Ferris> sorry 0.200.2 not 9
#2790 [23:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Could you hit Windows key + r, enter in CMD, and in that, type "java -v"?
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#2792 [23:41] <oldtopman> *cough*-version*cough*
#2793 [23:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Derp
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#2795 [23:41] <oldtopman> :P
#2796 [23:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah, what the Oldtopman said
#2797 [23:41] <cestislife> He has a nice top hat.
#2798 [23:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes, he does.
#2799 [23:41] <CrusaderDeleters> I want one.
#2800 [23:42] <SinZ> you be jelly
#2801 [23:42] <Ferris> java version 1.6.0_20 / SE runtime environment 1.6.0_20
#2802 [23:42] <Ferris> looks like it could use an update anyway
#2803 [23:42] <SinZ> dat version
#2804 [23:42] * oldtopman hands CrusaderDeleters a spare top hat
#2804 [23:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Thank you.
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#2806 [23:42] <Ferris> hotspot server vm 16.3
#2807 [23:42] <TopHatDeleters> You should update. XD
#2808 [23:42] <cestislife> Ferris, then yeah, might be worth updating java.
#2809 [23:43] <TopHatDeleters> I heard in 1.4.6, Mojang did a massive code change. It might have been heavily reliable on 1.7.
#2810 [23:43] <cestislife> source?
#2811 [23:44] <Gone_Ralex> It is made to run on Java 1.5, so they cannot and did not compile using 1.7
#2812 [23:44] <TopHatDeleters> Oh.
#2813 [23:44] <Gone_Ralex> They are however dropping 1.5 support in the future, so it will not work if you are using Java 1.5
#2814 [23:44] <Gone_Ralex> Java 6 and higher are and will be just fine
#2815 [23:45] <TopHatDeleters> Oh.
#2816 [23:45] * cestislife uses experimental 1.8
#2816 [23:45] <cestislife> \/
#2817 [23:45] <cestislife> \o/
#2818 [23:45] <Lutzee> They did a major restructure in 1.3 version of minecraft though
#2819 [23:45] <TopHatDeleters> I thought the last major Restructure was in 1.4.7.
#2820 [23:45] <TopHatDeleters> 1.4.6*
#2821 [23:45] <TopHatDeleters> Time to look this up!
#2822 [23:47] <Ferris> should i install sixty four bit? hmm
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#2824 [23:48] <TopHatDeleters> Ferris: What?
#2825 [23:48] <cestislife> Ferris, if you have a 64bit system, then yes.
#2826 [23:48] <TopHatDeleters> And Ralex: I see that they do plan on dropping 1.5.
#2827 [23:48] <Ferris> It indicates in the filename that this software is designed for i586, so i figure ill look for a sixty four
#2828 [23:49] <cestislife> oh no
#2829 [23:49] <Ferris> ehh
#2830 [23:49] <cestislife> Hold on
#2831 [23:49] <Ferris> cba, settling with what i have
#2832 [23:49] <TopHatDeleters> Also, I cannot seem to find where I saw that they did a major structural change to the minecraft jar. :L
#2833 [23:49] <Ferris> it's probably just the installer anyway
#2834 [23:49] <TopHatDeleters> I might be losing my mind.
#2835 [23:50] <TopHatDeleters> Ferris: Actually, no. The 64-bit java is actually the java files in 64 bit
#2836 [23:50] <Lutzee> TopHatDeleters: They didnt restructure the jar file, but they did restructure the code
#2837 [23:51] <TopHatDeleters> Yeah, that's what I meant. XD
#2838 [23:51] <Ferris> i still have perhaps the dumbest minecraft superpower ever
#2839 [23:51] <TopHatDeleters> Haha
#2840 [23:51] <TopHatDeleters> (Laughing at the fact that you called it a super power, not that you still have it()
#2841 [23:51] <Ferris> :p
#2842 [23:52] <Ferris> Surprise! version responds the same as it did
#2843 [23:52] <Ferris> time to completely uninstall java and reinstall it, maybe?
#2844 [23:53] <TopHatDeleters> Possibly.
#2845 [23:53] <Ferris> i'm bored enough. why not
#2846 [23:55] <TopHatDeleters> Well. This sucks. Steam cannot find my Email. ._.
#2847 [23:59] <Ferris> if we had a door opening and closing race, i bet you couldnt beat me... still
#2848 [23:59] <Ferris> we've probably narrowed it down to weird driver settings