#1 [00:00] <Bobicraft> guys
#2 [00:00] <skymoy> just because it isn't the most recent doesn't mean he needs to update either
#3 [00:00] <Bobicraft> dont appear minecraft folders
#4 [00:00] <Bobicraft> like saves
#5 [00:01] <Bobicraft> what i can do?
#6 [00:01] <skymoy> Bobicraft: please follow voxelhead's instructions
#7 [00:01] <skymoy> ??> Bobicraft win/dxdiag
#8 [00:01] <VoxelHead> Bobicraft: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#9 [00:01] <VoxelHead> Bobicraft: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#10 [00:01] <Bobicraft> Ok
#11 [00:01] <Bobicraft> thx
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#13 [00:03] <DevinLaine> Why cant my friends connect to my server?
#14 [00:03] <Bobicraft> Other question
#15 [00:04] <mattym> DevinLaine: More info please
#16 [00:04] <Bobicraft> not working my "server lan"
#17 [00:05] <DevinLaine> I port forwarded and set up my server but nobody can connect..
#18 [00:05] <mattym> DevinLaine: What is the address for the server?
#19 [00:05] <Bobicraft> never load my friends with the "server lan"
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#22 [00:06] <mattym> Lan server is only people on your network Bobicraft
#23 [00:06] <Bobicraft> ok
#24 [00:06] <mattym> For other servers you need to Add the address
#25 [00:07] <Bobicraft> mmm i follow voxelhead's instructions
#26 [00:07] <Bobicraft> and my minecraft crash again
#27 [00:07] <mattym> you were supposed to put the results of the DXDiag into a pastebin for us, the same way you did with the error report
#28 [00:08] <Bobicraft> ok
#29 [00:08] <mattym> Win+R means the hold the windows key and press R
#30 [00:08] <mattym> Windows key = start key
#31 [00:08] <Bobicraft> yes yes i know
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#34 [00:09] <Bobicraft> http://pastebin.com/wqUd48yW
#35 [00:10] <Bobicraft> the results of the DXDiag
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#38 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> Bobicraft - Please download and install these updated video drivers: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22375&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20%2864-bit%29*&DownloadType=%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09Drivers%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09
#39 [00:12] <Bobicraft> ok
#40 [00:12] <skymoy> i'm not entirely sure his hardware can handle it. 128 MB of dedicated memory is going to really bog it down
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#43 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> It will, not well, but it will
#44 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Remember that intel integrated video chipsets share system RAM
#45 [00:14] <mattym> The built in graphics on that series of i5's should get by
#46 [00:14] <Bobicraft> being installed it
#47 [00:14] <skymoy> yes, but they have to keep reading in from RAM and writing back to it; and there's a limit of how much tolerance you can have to wait for that
#48 [00:15] <skymoy> what concerns me is that there's nothing listed for accelerated modes
#49 [00:16] <Bobicraft> I install it
#50 [00:17] <Bobicraft> now?
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#54 [00:18] <mattym> restart your PC and try minecraft again
#55 [00:19] <Bobicraft> ok
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#59 [00:30] <Bobicraft> now i will restart your PC
#60 [00:30] <Bobicraft> I will restart my PC *
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#71 [00:46] <Bobicraft> hey
#72 [00:46] <Bobicraft> Thx very much!!!!
#73 [00:46] <Bobicraft> My Minecraft work
#74 [00:47] <mattym> worked?
#75 [00:47] <mattym> cool
#76 [00:47] <Bobicraft> Yes!
#77 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Happy to help
#78 [00:47] <mattym> also
#79 [00:47] <Bobicraft> thx thx hx
#80 [00:47] <mattym> make sure that your render distance is NOT set to far
#81 [00:47] <Bobicraft> yes
#82 [00:48] <mattym> if you use lower graphics settings your computer will handle it a lot better
#83 [00:48] <Bobicraft> Oh ok
#84 [00:48] <Bobicraft> hx
#85 [00:48] <Bobicraft> thx*
#86 [00:48] <Bobicraft> And
#87 [00:49] <Bobicraft> Can you explain me the "server lan"
#88 [00:50] <mattym> A LAN Server means that you open your world to other people on YOUR network
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#90 [00:50] <Bobicraft> ok
#91 [00:51] <Bobicraft> Thx
#92 [00:51] <mattym> If there is someone else in your house or at least on your network, they can join you in your game
#93 [00:51] <Bobicraft> mmm yes
#94 [00:51] <Bobicraft> but
#95 [00:51] <Bobicraft> when i do it
#96 [00:51] <Bobicraft> My friends can´t join
#97 [00:51] <mattym> are they in your house or using your internet
#98 [00:52] <Bobicraft> yup
#99 [00:52] <Bobicraft> never load
#100 [00:52] <mattym> you may need to change settings on your router to allow it to work
#101 [00:52] <Bobicraft> mm ok
#102 [00:53] <zkxs> Double NAT is the source of all LAN evil, where all = 99%
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#105 [00:54] <mattym> Routers should be subsidized like phones are and require a professional installer
#106 [00:55] <Bobicraft> Ooo
#107 [00:55] <zkxs> I feel like people like us wouldn't enjoy that
#108 [00:55] <SinZ> mattym: that would make it more inconvenient for people who actually know how to do it, without a fancy certificate
#109 [00:55] <zkxs> Could I print my own fancy certificate?
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#111 [00:56] <SinZ> but I wouldn't object to requiring a certificate 1 or something, to be allowed on the internet
#112 [00:56] <SinZ> would filter out the people who cant find the off button on their computers
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#114 [01:01] <mattym> no argument here
#115 [01:02] <SinZ> and even then, you can get a "professional" installation anyway, but usually extra
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#117 [01:05] <mattym> how many professional installers have you ever seen actually ask what its gonna be used for an set it up appropriatly
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#119 [01:11] <Bobicraft> hey
#120 [01:11] <Bobicraft> one question
#121 [01:11] <Bobicraft> why my Mc say "Out of memory"
#122 [01:12] <zkxs> Are you by chance on a netbook?
#123 [01:15] <zkxs> Bobicraft: You still there?
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#126 [01:15] <SinZ> mattym: thats why I designed my network myself, and if stuff needs to change, it happens, though no wall smashing has happened yet to make it most efficient
#127 [01:16] <mattym> I got tired of wirless one weekend and ran Ethernet cable to the upstairs part of my house
#128 [01:18] <zkxs> I envy you sir. My server is connected via wifi, and it sucks.
#129 [01:18] <mattym> wasnt cheap
#130 [01:19] <mattym> i didnt want to do the wall smashing
#131 [01:19] <zkxs> Especially since I phased out the good ol' WRT54G, the wifi speed has gone up but the quality has gone down...
#132 [01:19] <mattym> so i bought metal piping to run it outside the house
#133 [01:19] <zkxs> nice
#134 [01:20] <zkxs> screw interference
#135 [01:20] <mattym> the cable is shielded
#136 [01:20] <mattym> havent had any issues with it
#137 [01:20] <zkxs> but surely being inside a conductor can't hurt either
#138 [01:21] <mattym> eh
#139 [01:21] <mattym> i dont get that technical
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#141 [01:21] <mattym> all i knew was, the wifi wasnt cutting it anymore
#142 [01:22] <zkxs> lol
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#144 [01:23] <Wug> <zkxs> Could I print my own fancy certificate?
#145 [01:23] <Wug> thats the only way to get one.
#146 [01:23] <zkxs> lol
#147 [01:23] <zkxs> so guise. I made a thing. It might be a nifty thing.
#148 [01:24] <Wug> you go to staples, they put you in a room with an unconfigured network printer and a computer with certification.pdf on the desktop
#149 [01:24] <Wug> if you can configure it, you can have it
#150 [01:24] <mattym> Love it
#151 [01:25] <zkxs> This is a Minecraft server pinger + test server/client http://zcraft.no-ip.org:8080/files/.minecrafthelp/MCPing.jar
#152 [01:26] <zkxs> I don't know if it is actually practical, but at least it taught me how to do swing and non-awful sockets
#153 [01:27] <Lord_Ralex> sockets are fun :3
#154 [01:28] <zkxs> Indeed. The client part was easy, but making a server that could accept multiple users and would time out properly took a bit more thought.
#155 [01:28] <Lord_Ralex> :P
#156 [01:28] <Lord_Ralex> just need to know how to handle it
#157 [01:29] <zkxs> My initial attempt didn't thread each incoming user. Next time it will be easier :P
#158 [01:29] <Lord_Ralex> yeah, that is a key part :P
#159 [01:30] <zkxs> Then i noticed timeout wasn't working, so I could theoretically end up with a zillion blocked threads, and of cource whatever.readLine() isn't interruptible.
#160 [01:30] <Lord_Ralex> there is an implentation that allows for it to be
#161 [01:31] <zkxs> each client thread now starts another thread that closes the somethingStream after a couple seconds, causing the silly blocking method to throw me a nice exception
#162 [01:31] <Lord_Ralex> so 1 client = 2 threads?
#163 [01:31] <zkxs> yeah :/
#164 [01:31] <Lord_Ralex> that works
#165 [01:32] <zkxs> the second thread just sleeps for 2 seconds than does toClose.close(); , so I don't feel too bad about it
#166 [01:32] <Lord_Ralex> would have to dig around with inputstream implentations
#167 [01:33] <Lord_Ralex> i know one allows it to be interruptable or at least act when you do something to it
#168 [01:34] <mattym> how do you simulate multiple users trying to connect?
#169 [01:34] <zkxs> mashing the ping button
#170 [01:34] <zkxs> Each ping is a separate connection
#171 [01:35] <mattym> and what rule are they following as far as staying active/connected?
#172 [01:36] <zkxs> Once the connection is established, the client has two seconds to send something ending with a newline, after which the server kills the connection
#173 [01:36] <zkxs> If the client doesn't get a response after two seconds, it closes the connection
#174 [01:37] <zkxs> It's interesting to have the MC Ping query the test server, and to have the test client query various things, like DNS servers.
#175 [01:38] <zkxs> The idea is the second tab can be used to work out if is the firewall or the router that is blocking a server from the outside world
#176 [01:38] <mattym> yeah
#177 [01:38] <mattym> i just didnt see any issues cause my computer is set up already
#178 [01:39] <mattym> so it was just getting successful pings
#179 [01:40] <zkxs> You can try doing it using your WAN address on a port that isn't forwarded
#180 [01:40] <mattym> true, thats cool
#181 [01:40] <mattym> neet tool for people like us
#182 [01:41] <zkxs> It actually has the ability to use your WAN address as the default, but that feature lags the program's start by a few seconds, so I defaulted it to the LAN IP instead
#183 [01:41] <zkxs> I might fix that later...
#184 [01:41] <zkxs> And the MC ping supports both versions of the server query!!11!
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#186 [01:42] <mattym> werent you trashing Java earlier?
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#188 [01:42] <zkxs> Yep
#189 [01:42] <mattym> lol
#190 [01:43] <zkxs> The thing I don't like about java is they favor developers over the actual users
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#192 [01:43] <zkxs> The VM makes it very easy to debug and make cross-platform code, but the user gets silly VM bloat and has to figure out how to stop WinZip from opening all their jar files
#193 [01:44] <mattym> yeah, but i guess it is sorta meant for that in a way
#194 [01:44] <zkxs> It is great for learning, but you don't see many actual applications made in it for a reason
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#196 [01:45] <zkxs> Applets are cool, but suddenly as of 7u10, they are untrusted even by java itself by default
#197 [01:46] <eetsgeets> Can anyone help me with a "Minecraft has crashed!" error?
#198 [01:46] <mattym> yeah but that can be expected with any new release
#199 [01:46] <Lord_Ralex> eetsgeets, do you have the error?
#200 [01:47] <mattym> yeah eetsgeets just give us a pastebin with the error log
#201 [01:47] <eetsgeets> pastebin got it
#202 [01:47] <mattym> crash report. whatever they call it
#203 [01:47] <Lord_Ralex> all the same to me
#204 [01:47] <eetsgeets> http://pastebin.com/PT75Sb02
#205 [01:47] <eetsgeets> lemme post the .txt file hold on
#206 [01:48] <Lord_Ralex> unneeded
#207 [01:48] <Lord_Ralex> although
#208 [01:48] <Lord_Ralex> you appear to have mods
#209 [01:48] <eetsgeets> i do.
#210 [01:48] <eetsgeets> kinda
#211 [01:48] <cestislife> Optifine?
#212 [01:48] <Lord_Ralex> we cannot support mods, but you are running out of memory
#213 [01:49] <Lord_Ralex> your 512MB allocation is not enough
#214 [01:49] <Lord_Ralex> it wants more
#215 [01:49] <eetsgeets> Lemme try running without OptiFine
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#217 [01:50] <cestislife> Oh, I was right.
#218 [01:50] <cestislife> \o/
#219 [01:50] <eetsgeets> sorry I use MagicLauncher for mods and I've installed a few to the .jar, as well as CraftBukkit, so I get confused
#220 [01:50] <zkxs> My gosh, Mojang made the crash reports beautiful
#221 [01:50] <mattym> well if you use magiclauncher , just give it more RAM
#222 [01:50] <Lord_Ralex> blem ml
#223 [01:50] <Lord_Ralex> bleh*
#224 [01:51] <eetsgeets> What's wrong iwht it?
#225 [01:51] <eetsgeets> *with
#226 [01:51] <Lord_Ralex> multimc is better
#227 [01:51] <eetsgeets> Neat thanks I'll look into it.
#228 [01:52] <Lord_Ralex> wait
#229 [01:52] <Lord_Ralex> you installed craftbukkit into your jar?
#230 [01:52] <eetsgeets> Ugh "downloading terrain" on sp i don't get it
#231 [01:52] * Lord_Ralex just now read that
#231 [01:52] <eetsgeets> uhh no didn't hahahaha
#232 [01:52] <eetsgeets> but it's just another mod that i've installed at some point
#233 [01:52] <Lord_Ralex> "I've installed a few to the .jar, as well as CraftBukkit"
#234 [01:52] <eetsgeets> not really relevant
#235 [01:52] <cestislife> eetsgeets, single player is basically a local server now.
#236 [01:52] <Lord_Ralex> CB is a server
#237 [01:52] <Lord_Ralex> well, server wrapper
#238 [01:52] <eetsgeets> Yeah I use this world on the server, but when no one else is on I just move it to SP so I don't have to run the server
#239 [01:53] <mattym> no CB shouldnt be considered a wrapper
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#241 [01:54] <eetsgeets> moving the world from .../.minecraft/saves/ to somewhere else for the server wouldn't create problems, right?
#242 [01:54] <Lord_Ralex> nope
#243 [01:54] <mattym> shouldnt anyway
#244 [01:54] <qwerty> Hi - how can I download the updates, we use a mac and have minecraft version 1.0
#245 [01:54] <eetsgeets> Oh hey it loaded on single player finally
#246 [01:55] <Lord_Ralex> ??> qwerty forceupdate
#247 [01:55] <VoxelHead> qwerty: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#248 [01:55] <VoxelHead> qwerty: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#249 [01:55] <mattym> He may actually need to download a new launcher
#250 [01:55] <qwerty> Tried force update but it did not work
#251 [01:55] <Lord_Ralex> why mattym ?
#252 [01:55] <eetsgeets> There's a chunk right next to the house on this file that's just missing, and I can't get it to fix. And there was also a weird glitch where like hundreds of chickens just spawned for no apparent reason and it caused a similar problem to what's happening now
#253 [01:55] <mattym> wasnt 1.0 using the old launcher?
#254 [01:55] <cestislife> No..
#255 [01:56] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, not sure, never kept up with them, but don't recall issues
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#258 [01:56] <Lord_Ralex> it would tell you if it was outdated
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#260 [01:56] <Lord_Ralex> ??> qwerty mac/reinst
#261 [01:56] <VoxelHead> qwerty: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#262 [01:56] <VoxelHead> qwerty: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#263 [01:56] <mattym> dont forget the gatekeeper thing
#264 [01:57] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, if he got this far, dont think it is affecting it ;)
#265 [01:57] <qwerty> thanks
#266 [01:58] <eetsgeets> Anybody have any input for my weirdness?
#267 [01:58] <Lord_Ralex> probably chunk failed to save
#268 [01:59] <mattym> happens a lot with mods
#269 [01:59] <Lord_Ralex> as for chickens, maybe a spawner?
#270 [01:59] <eetsgeets> Well the chunk's been around forever
#271 [01:59] <eetsgeets> RIGHT next to house which I never really stray from
#272 [02:00] <Lord_Ralex> don't challenge the game ;)
#273 [02:00] <eetsgeets> and it suddenly just disappeared
#274 [02:00] <Lord_Ralex> my xbla version has a missing chunk on it
#275 [02:00] <Lord_Ralex> (which is odd)
#276 [02:00] <Lord_Ralex> seen it happen at times on pc as well
#277 [02:00] <Lord_Ralex> occasional backups are nice
#278 [02:00] <mattym> What PC version is the Xbox version up to now?
#279 [02:00] <Lord_Ralex> 1.8?
#280 [02:01] <Lord_Ralex> think
#281 [02:01] <eetsgeets> like 1.9 i think
#282 [02:01] <eetsgeets> lol
#283 [02:01] <eetsgeets> nvm
#284 [02:01] <eetsgeets> i'm pretty sure they've gotten both parts of the adventure update by now...
#285 [02:01] <Lord_Ralex> it has enchanting and potions, and the end portals as a display
#286 [02:01] <eetsgeets> oh ew
#287 [02:01] <Lord_Ralex> no end, but the portals are there
#288 [02:01] <mattym> Cool
#289 [02:02] <mattym> I feel like more people i know would join me if i played it on Xbox
#290 [02:02] <Lord_Ralex> for combat i like the 360
#291 [02:02] <Lord_Ralex> building, it is not that great
#292 [02:03] <eetsgeets> uhh
#293 [02:03] <eetsgeets> so if i uploaded the world, would anybody be willing to take a look at it?
#294 [02:03] <Lord_Ralex> uh
#295 [02:03] <Lord_Ralex> we could try
#296 [02:03] <Lord_Ralex> although we probably won't be able to fix it
#297 [02:03] <mattym> yeah my only experience with it was the demo at the first Minecon
#298 [02:03] <eetsgeets> this is UUUUUUUGLY
#299 [02:03] <Lord_Ralex> we can get the chunk to regen though
#300 [02:03] <Lord_Ralex> back to w/e the world made naturally
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#302 [02:05] <eetsgeets> .7z OK?
#303 [02:06] * Lord_Ralex shrugs
#303 [02:06] <Lord_Ralex> any format will do for me
#304 [02:06] <eetsgeets> http://ge.tt/4eb7EVX/v/0
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#307 [02:06] <eetsgeets> shit I'm uploading turbs slow right now...
#308 [02:06] <Lord_Ralex> man
#309 [02:07] <Lord_Ralex> my internet is slow now
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#311 [02:07] <Lord_Ralex> dl is only at 100KBps .-.
#312 [02:07] <eetsgeets> I'm only uploading it at 66kb/s...
#313 [02:07] <eetsgeets> so...
#314 [02:07] <eetsgeets> 78
#315 [02:08] <qwerty> All good here. Thanks
#316 [02:08] <eetsgeets> This is gross to look at.
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#318 [02:12] <eetsgeets> IT'S NOT EVEN UPLOADED YET OH MY GOD THIS IS SAD
#319 [02:12] <cestislife> Shoutin' doesn't make it go faster :U
#320 [02:12] <eetsgeets> No but caps lock will.
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#323 [02:15] <Lord_Ralex> eetsgeets, can you also get what seed this world is?
#324 [02:16] <eetsgeets> shit yeah gimme a sec
#325 [02:16] <eetsgeets> it's gonna take hella to load
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#329 [02:19] <mattym> you could recreate the world and give youself cheats to use /seed
#330 [02:19] <eetsgeets> -2580286602290425856
#331 [02:20] <eetsgeets> uhh would it matter if i transplanted some chunks from another map into this one...
#332 [02:20] <eetsgeets> like
#333 [02:20] <eetsgeets> the entire house
#334 [02:20] <eetsgeets> using some program that i don't remember
#335 [02:21] <Lord_Ralex> MCEdit
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#337 [02:21] <eetsgeets> but I could figure out which if it's relevant
#338 [02:21] <eetsgeets> I think I used a different one as well...
#339 [02:21] <eetsgeets> maybe not
#340 [02:21] <mattym> didnt you say u used mods on it tho?
#341 [02:21] <eetsgeets> actually I think it was just that one
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#343 [02:21] <Lord_Ralex> woah
#344 [02:21] <Lord_Ralex> loaded world
#345 [02:21] <eetsgeets> I've used a few but only for specific purposes
#346 [02:21] <Lord_Ralex> and man, console is killing me
#347 [02:21] <eetsgeets> I usually have a clean .jar
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#349 [02:22] <Lord_Ralex> wow
#350 [02:22] <Lord_Ralex> found the chunk btw
#351 [02:22] <Lord_Ralex> before the server kicked me off
#352 [02:22] <mattym> well some of the blocks and stuff added by some mods get deleted when u use stuff like MCEdit, so keep that in mind
#353 [02:22] <eetsgeets> so wtf is this shit
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#355 [02:23] <Lord_Ralex> give me a bit, the server is processing the entities
#356 [02:23] <eetsgeets> I've only used mods like SPC and this one that let you choose specific paintings. nothing that added anything to the game
#357 [02:23] <mattym> yeah then you should be fine
#358 [02:24] <Lord_Ralex> oh
#359 [02:24] <Lord_Ralex> well
#360 [02:24] <Lord_Ralex> one slime is killing my server
#361 [02:24] <eetsgeets> wat
#362 [02:25] <Lord_Ralex> loaded that world
#363 [02:25] <Lord_Ralex> and one slime is in a bad chunk
#364 [02:25] <Lord_Ralex> i now have a 16MB server.log with just "2013-02-05 01:24:14 [WARNING] Wrong location for EntitySlime['Slime'/55514, l='world', x=769.70, y=14.48, z=2455.30] in world 'world'!"
#365 [02:25] <cestislife> Darn you slime
#366 [02:25] <mattym> well eetsgeets if you have SPC can you kill all?
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#368 [02:26] <Lord_Ralex> i got worldedit on it, so going to kill it that way
#369 [02:26] <mattym> that works too
#370 [02:26] <mattym> with worldedit is there a way to copy and paste from one world to another or does it only work within the one save?
#371 [02:27] <mattym> basically can you template stuff
#372 [02:27] <Lord_Ralex> //load and //save
#373 [02:27] <eetsgeets> >I usually have a clean .jar
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#375 [02:27] <mattym> are the "saved areas" put into a sharable file?
#376 [02:27] <Lord_Ralex> yeah
#377 [02:28] <Lord_Ralex> some folder in the server
#378 [02:28] <mattym> hmm
#379 [02:28] <mattym> that may help with a project ive been working on
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#382 [02:28] <mattym> brb
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#387 [02:29] <mattym> i hate it when i click the button too soon
#388 [02:33] <mattym> any luck fixing it?
#389 [02:33] <Lord_Ralex> mcediting to go kill it
#390 [02:33] <mattym> that persistant ha
#391 [02:33] <eetsgeets> thanks so much god damn
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#405 [02:42] <eetsgeets> hi
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#408 [02:45] <eetsgeets> hey Lord, any update?
#409 [02:45] <Lord_Ralex> mcedit being mean to me
#410 [02:46] <eetsgeets> what needs to be done?
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#414 [02:50] <Lord_Ralex> oh dear
#415 [02:50] <Lord_Ralex> note to self, don't tele to the slime
#416 [02:51] <Lord_Ralex> it basically was killing the computer
#417 [02:51] <eetsgeets> why's it so difficult to kill
#418 [02:51] <eetsgeets> and how would you go about reloading that chunk?
#419 [02:51] <mattym> did mcedit reallt not let you delete the entity?
#420 [02:52] <Lord_Ralex> to avoid having to kill every entity i was going to tp and just clean that chunk up
#421 [02:53] <Lord_Ralex> tp'ed to slime, and watched computer kill itself
#422 [02:53] <cestislife> Sounds like the slime doesn't want to be deleted.
#423 [02:53] <cestislife> :l
#424 [02:54] <eetsgeets> you can go ahead and you killall
#425 [02:55] <Lord_Ralex> yeah, that is what i am doing now
#426 [02:55] <eetsgeets> *just
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#428 [02:55] <eetsgeets> don't know why i said you
#429 [02:55] <mattym> it wouldnt let you select the chunk and just delete the stuff in that one?
#430 [02:55] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, trying to get to the chunk was killing it
#431 [02:56] <mattym> even in MCedit?
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#433 [02:56] <Lord_Ralex> the thing won't let me kill it easily
#434 [02:57] <Lord_Ralex> all to repair a chink
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#437 [02:57] <mattym> lol
#438 [02:57] <Lord_Ralex> typos....
#439 [02:57] <cestislife> I don't think Aubot likes you.
#440 [02:57] <cestislife> :l
#441 [02:57] <mattym> really so i cant talk about a chink in my armor
#442 [02:57] * AuBot kicked mattym from #minecrafthelp (Reason: attym :Please keep it civil.)
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#444 [02:58] <mattym> lol
#445 [02:58] <TheNoodle> lolled
#446 [02:58] * TheNoodle hugs AuBot
#446 [02:58] * cestislife has to google that word
#446 [02:58] <cestislife> I have no idea what it is
#447 [02:59] <eetsgeets> chinese
#448 [02:59] <eetsgeets> racism
#449 [02:59] <cestislife> Oh it's a racial slur.
#450 [02:59] <eetsgeets> or like mattym said
#451 [02:59] <eetsgeets> a chink in one's armor
#452 [02:59] * AuBot kicked eetsgeets from #minecrafthelp (Reason: etsgeets :Please keep it civil.)
#453 [02:59] <cestislife> Well.
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#455 [03:00] <mattym> it has an old world meaning
#456 [03:00] <mattym> but mostly just a racial slur these days
#457 [03:00] <eetsgeets> it's mentioned in an episode of Scrubs
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#459 [03:01] <eetsgeets> The janitor is doing a crossword and asks what's a defect in armor or something and J.D. says that, then camera pan to an Asian guy behind him getting all offended
#460 [03:02] <TheNoodle> We get a few spam things for chink and things like chimpout from memory.
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#465 [03:03] <TheNoodle> Also, if you don't want to get kicked just make sure you hug AuBot before you swear
#466 [03:03] <mattym> really
#467 [03:03] <mattym> cool
#468 [03:04] * TheNoodle hugs AuBot
#468 [03:04] <TheNoodle> Chink.
#469 [03:04] <mattym> i figured you were safe due to your user status
#470 [03:04] <Lord_Ralex> Eetsgeets, saving the now-no entity world
#471 [03:04] <TheNoodle> nah, that would have protected Lord_Ralex as well
#472 [03:05] <TheNoodle> Also, why do you not have VOP -_-
#473 [03:05] <Lord_Ralex> ask Grey
#474 [03:05] <Eetsgeets> Woo!
#475 [03:05] <Eetsgeets> So any idea what happened with that chunk?
#476 [03:05] <Lord_Ralex> no idea yet
#477 [03:05] <Lord_Ralex> going to load the world and have a look now
#478 [03:05] <mattym> that trick also work if you need to post a link to something with possible offensive words?
#479 [03:06] <TheNoodle> yeah.
#480 [03:06] <mattym> in that case, if you have time to read it i found this one real enjoyable
#481 [03:06] <mattym> http://www.kontraband.com/jokes/2391/The-Wal-Mart-Story/
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#483 [03:07] <mattym> forgot the hug, but o well it guess it was clean
#484 [03:07] <Lord_Ralex> yay
#485 [03:07] <Lord_Ralex> no more slime killing me
#486 [03:07] <Eetsgeets> Why did I just watch myself join chat
#487 [03:08] <mattym> are you logged in on more than one pc or more than one place?
#488 [03:08] <Eetsgeets> lolno
#489 [03:09] <Lord_Ralex> Eetsgeets, alright
#490 [03:09] <Eetsgeets> Go on...
#491 [03:10] <Lord_Ralex> found that chunk
#492 [03:10] <Eetsgeets> Yay
#493 [03:10] <Lord_Ralex> regen'ed it and did a little patch job to at least make it seem fine
#494 [03:10] <Lord_Ralex> and that slime is not killing the server now
#495 [03:10] <Eetsgeets> Btw mattym that link is dead (on mobile)
#496 [03:11] <Eetsgeets> Omg I love you
#497 [03:11] <mattym> hmmm still works for me, maybe the mobile connection doesnt like it
#498 [03:11] <Eetsgeets> I'm curious to see what you use to host
#499 [03:12] <Lord_Ralex> Eetsgeets, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53849969/world.zip
#500 [03:12] <Lord_Ralex> make sure you at least keep that old copy just in case
#501 [03:13] <Eetsgeets> Oh yeah Dropbox can be user for public storage. Weird.
#502 [03:13] <Lord_Ralex> and i think MRF also would have done the job at killing that slime
#503 [03:14] <Eetsgeets> Alright well awesome thanks hella
#504 [03:14] <mattym> MRF?
#505 [03:14] <Lord_Ralex> miencraft region fixer
#506 [03:14] <mattym> ah
#507 [03:14] <Lord_Ralex> ran it though that, and it found that chunk as well
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#509 [03:16] <Eetsgeets> Kthxbye
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#530 [04:33] <Kade> Anyone?
#531 [04:33] <TheNoodle> Hello.
#532 [04:33] <Kade> Hey :)
#533 [04:33] <Kade> What does this channel help with?
#534 [04:34] <TheNoodle> ...Diablo 3.
#535 [04:34] <Kade> Like what stuff about minecraft does it help witH?
#536 [04:34] <Kade> Diablo 3?
#537 [04:34] <Kade> wut
#538 [04:34] <TheNoodle> lol, just vanilla client and server issues
#539 [04:34] <TheNoodle> (for minecraft)
#540 [04:34] <Kade> Ah ok, do you know much about that?
#541 [04:34] <Wug> and borked java
#542 [04:35] <Wug> ive never met a java i couldnt unbork
#543 [04:35] <TheNoodle> You can bork my java.
#544 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> and ancient video cards
#545 [04:35] <Kade> Well how would I fix xwom saying I don't have java
#546 [04:35] <Kade> When normal wom works fine
#547 [04:35] <Kade> And uses java
#548 [04:35] <Wug> classic?
#549 [04:35] <Kade> Yep
#550 [04:35] <Wug> hrm well
#551 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> wom isn't dalt with here. Please don't use wom and we'll be glad to help
#552 [04:36] <Wug> i bet reinstalling java would fix it
#553 [04:36] <DiskDaemon> "world of minecraft"
#554 [04:36] <Wug> xwom probably just looks in the path
#555 [04:36] <Kade> Do'nt use wom?
#556 [04:36] <Wug> open a prompt and issue 'java -version'
#557 [04:36] <Kade> 1.7.0
#558 [04:36] <DiskDaemon> Yes indeed, wom is a modded version of Minecraft that has certain issues, and isn't supported here
#559 [04:37] <Wug> java 1.7.0? its up to 1.7.13
#560 [04:37] <Kade> Oh well
#561 [04:37] <Kade> Would that help if I updasted? xD
#562 [04:37] <Kade> updated*
#563 [04:37] <Wug> probably
#564 [04:37] <Wug> uninstall any existing versions first
#565 [04:37] <Kade> I'll try, thanks for your input
#566 [04:37] <Kade> brb
#567 [04:37] <Wug> get the 64 bit one
#568 [04:38] <Kade> Ok
#569 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> Please install the 64-bit version of Java from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#570 [04:40] <Kade> Ok, downloading now
#571 [04:40] <Kade> My internet is running quite slow at the moment
#572 [04:40] <Kade> It might take a bit
#573 [04:43] <Kade> Uh, I might download it when my internet is running better. Says 1 day left :/
#574 [04:43] <Kade> Lol, thanks for the help though guys
#575 [04:43] <Kade> I'm off, cyas
#576 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#577 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> Holy hell - 1 day to download java. That's one significant issue right there in and of itself.\
#578 [04:48] <TheNoodle> shaped I guess
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#580 [04:52] <Jell-E105> Why am i banned?
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#582 [04:52] <Jell-E105> Mm thats weird
#583 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> Jell-E105: Where from?
#584 [04:52] <Jell-E105> Its says i cant change my nick in Jell-E
#585 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> ?? irc
#586 [04:52] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#587 [04:52] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#588 [04:52] <Jell-E105> Because im banned here
#589 [04:53] <DiskDaemon> That advice for the #minecraft channel may apply for the jell-e one too
#590 [04:53] <DiskDaemon> Jell-E105: Did you know that this is the #minecrafthelp channel? I'm puzzled about how jelle is related to minecraft. What is jelle?
#591 [04:53] <TheNoodle> the cool version of jelly
#592 [04:54] <Jell-E105> My username
#593 [04:54] <Jell-E105> Its my real name
#594 [04:54] <TheNoodle> Jell-E105, where do you think you're banned from?
#595 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> Jell-E105: I ask again then. Where are you banned from?
#596 [04:54] <Jell-E105> (435) Jell-E #minecraft :Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
#597 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> Jell-E105: Please follow the instructions from VoxelHead
#598 [04:57] <Jell-E105> Ke
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#609 [05:14] <SinZ> anyone here good at debugging windows 7, in a boot failure situation
#610 [05:15] <DiskDaemon> That's happened to me before - remove the usb stick :)
#611 [05:15] <SinZ> even startup repair thingy dies on boot
#612 [05:15] <SinZ> which is annoying
#613 [05:16] <SinZ> starting to run out of stuff to unplug, only got monitor and keyboard plugged in now
#614 [05:16] <TheNoodle> multiple drives?
#615 [05:16] <SinZ> haven't started to unplug internal stuff yet, but It looks to be required
#616 [05:16] <DiskDaemon> If it's not something obvious like a bootable usb stick in there, start by checking for failed sectors on the hard drive, using something like spinrite which can recover bad sections
#617 [05:16] <SinZ> got an ssd (boot drive) and a hdd
#618 [05:19] <SinZ> hmm.. =S
#619 [05:20] <SinZ> the ssd is primary boot device, unplugged the hdd, and cant even find a boot device now
#620 [05:20] <DiskDaemon> So the ssd apparently doesn't exist - that's ominous, or just a dodgy cable
#621 [05:21] <SinZ> 0.o
#622 [05:21] <SinZ> but when hdd is plugged in, I can use ssd as a boot drive
#623 [05:22] <DiskDaemon> Simplify
#624 [05:22] <SinZ> neat, win7 almost worked, but insta-restarted after it "loaded"
#625 [05:22] <SinZ> but startup repair still gives black screen after loading
#626 [05:23] <DiskDaemon> I would want to check the hard drive for physical errors. Not with chkdsk, but with something that can recover the data if something has gone bad
#627 [05:23] <SinZ> I should actually have a bootdisk with gParted on it
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#629 [05:24] <SinZ> ..or startup repair recovering from its own black screen
#630 [05:25] <DiskDaemon> Do you know why it failed to boot in the first place?
#631 [05:25] <SinZ> it started derping after a random BSOD
#632 [05:26] <DiskDaemon> So it could be either a hardware issue or a software issue that resulted in the failure. If you repair the software, there's a 50/50 chance of the hardware problem still existing
#633 [05:26] <DiskDaemon> Checking for a hardware problem won't remove your option to perform a software solution later on
#634 [05:27] <DiskDaemon> That's why I would check for a hardware problem first, by scanning the drive sectors with a recovery program
#635 [05:27] <DiskDaemon> That's my 2c on the matter anyhow
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#637 [05:27] <SinZ> "STOP error 0xFD means that there are no free pages available to continue basic system operations. "
#638 [05:28] <SinZ> Why does that not sound good...
#639 [05:28] <DiskDaemon> Doing a memory check is also an easy and relatively quick thing to do, for sake of mind
#640 [05:28] <SinZ> well, startup repair found some disk errors
#641 [05:29] <DiskDaemon> oh gawd - let's hope that it ahsn't replaced them with empty sectors
#642 [05:29] <DiskDaemon> Are you using something that can actually scrub the bad sectors and recover the data that used to be on there?
#643 [05:30] <SinZ> heh "No changes will be made to your personal files or information"
#644 [05:30] <DiskDaemon> SpinRite - it performs miracles
#645 [05:30] <SinZ> im using windows stock program
#646 [05:30] <DiskDaemon> oh you're likely fucked
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#649 [05:30] <SinZ> dat bot
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#650 [05:31] <SinZ> VoxelHead is kind, AuBot is a ninja that will strike at any moment
#651 [05:31] * SinZ stares at AuBot
#651 [05:32] <DiskDaemon> Now that you have confirmed that there is a hardware failure of data on your hard drive, I'm betting that you're not going to perform a full physical scan of the drive to check fo any other issues
#652 [05:32] <DiskDaemon> afterall, that takes hours to perform, sometimes a day or two depending on the size of the drive
#653 [05:33] <SinZ> 120gb ssd, 2tb hdd =S
#654 [05:33] <DiskDaemon> So unless the drive is fully checked to ensure that it's in good health, there is a cancer that's just waiting on there to hit you again
#655 [05:34] <SinZ> Intel SSD, you have failed me
#656 [06:17] <CrusaderDeleters> SinZ, May be that your Ram is failing
#657 [06:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Perhaps try an extra pair that you have for a few days, and see if any BSoDs occur.
#658 [06:18] <CrusaderDeleters> I know I've had that kind of encounter before.
#659 [06:21] <SinZ> according to startup repair now, I have partition derps, which isn't going to be pretty
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#663 [06:24] <LeathalFusion> hi
#664 [06:25] <LeathalFusion> i have a question
#665 [06:26] <LeathalFusion> hey
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#668 [06:26] <LeathalFusion> hi
#669 [06:27] <LeathalFusion> i have a question
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#672 [06:28] <LeathalFusion> hi
#673 [06:28] <LeathalFusion> i don`t get a email to finish my bought
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#675 [06:30] <LeathalFusion> hi
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#677 [06:30] <LeathalFusion> i don`t get a email to finish my bought
#678 [06:31] <LeathalFusion> ?
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#681 [06:33] <LeathalFusion> ?
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#684 [06:35] <Rapman011> hi
#685 [06:36] <Rapman011> i have a question
#686 [06:37] <Rapman011> i don´t get a email to finish my payment
#687 [06:39] <Rapman011> hey
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#690 [06:40] <LeathalFusion> hi
#691 [06:41] <LeathalFusion> i have a question
#692 [06:41] <LeathalFusion> i don´t get a email to finish my payment
#693 [06:47] <LeathalFusion> ok
#694 [06:52] <LeathalFusion> hi
#695 [06:52] <LeathalFusion> hi
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#697 [06:54] <LeathalFusion> hi
#698 [06:55] <LeathalFusion> i have a problem
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#700 [06:56] <LeathalFusionl> hi
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#704 [07:01] <LeathalFusionl> hi
#705 [07:01] <LeathalFusionl> i have a question
#706 [07:01] <LeathalFusionl> i don´t get a email to finish my payment
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#709 [07:08] <LeathalFusion> hi
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#712 [07:11] <CB> anyone there ?
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#715 [07:14] <LeathalFusion> hi
#716 [07:15] <LeathalFusion> i don´t get a email to finish my payment
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#718 [07:17] <CB> I just bought Minecraft and when I press the link in the e-mail I get "{"error":"Too many failed redemption attempts."}" Why?
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#722 [07:19] <LeathalFusion> i don´t get a email to finish my payment
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#725 [07:30] <LeathalFusion> hi
#726 [07:30] <LeathalFusion> please help me
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#733 [07:56] <LeathalFusion> i need help
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#742 [08:15] <K3V1N8700> is this where tou get plugin help?
#743 [08:15] <cestislife> What sort of plugin?
#744 [08:16] <TheNoodle> Nope, for bukkit plugin help try #bukkit, for single player mods try #risucraft
#745 [08:16] <cestislife> darn
#746 [08:16] <cestislife> I got ninjad.
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#748 [08:16] <TheNoodle> And I'm drunk out of my mind.
#749 [08:19] <TEDDYBAERXD> I bought minecraft 10 times but when I do not want to play minecraft classic it says; user not premium my minecraft account is TEDDYBAERXD
#750 [08:20] <TEDDYBAERXD> can anyone help me?
#751 [08:20] <clarjon1> !paid TEDDYBAERXD
#752 [08:21] <clarjon1> !haspaid clarjon1
#753 [08:21] <clarjon1> hm.
#754 [08:21] <clarjon1> !paid clarjon1
#755 [08:21] <clarjon1> !paid TEDDYBAERXD
#756 [08:21] <clarjon1> Odd.
#757 [08:23] <TEDDYBAERXD> when can i start with play?
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#760 [08:24] <clarjon1> TEDDYBAERXD: Did you get a confirmation email stating that the transaction completed successfully?
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#762 [08:24] <clarjon1> TEDDYBAERXD: If not, your credit card may have blocked it -- especially since you bought it ten times.
#763 [08:24] <TEDDYBAERXD> i will look
#764 [08:25] <clarjon1> TEDDYBAERXD: It's a common issue. Many credit card companies tend to block international transactions, as a way of attempting to stop identity theft -- they see that suddenly that there's a purchase from a country that you dont' live in, and they stop it, thinking that it's not done by you.
#765 [08:25] <TEDDYBAERXD> i am afk see you
#766 [08:27] <TEDDYBAERXD> i'm back
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#768 [08:29] <TEDDYBAERXD> i didn't get an e-mail
#769 [08:30] <clarjon1> TEDDYBAERXD: It's a common issue. Many credit card companies tend to block international transactions, as a way of attempting to stop identity theft -- they see that suddenly that there's a purchase from a country that you dont' live in, and they stop it, thinking that it's not done by you.
#770 [08:30] <clarjon1> TEDDYBAERXD: You'll need to contact your credit card company, and let one of the ten transactions through.
#771 [08:32] <TEDDYBAERXD> i bought it ten times and now we have 200 euro less
#772 [08:33] <clarjon1> Why did you buy it ten times when it didn't succeed the first time -_-
#773 [08:33] <clarjon1> Again, you need to talk to your credit card company
#774 [08:33] <TEDDYBAERXD> as a try
#775 [08:34] <TEDDYBAERXD> why can't mojang make a premium account with the username
#776 [08:34] <clarjon1> TEDDYBAERXD: Because the credit card company hasn't paid Mojang yet
#777 [08:34] <clarjon1> TEDDYBAERXD: They don't make it premium until they receive the money.
#778 [08:34] <clarjon1> TEDDYBAERXD: That's why you need to call your credit card company.
#779 [08:35] <TEDDYBAERXD> why can't mojang then spend a premium account for me like my wish?
#780 [08:35] <clarjon1> You will get premium once they get paid. it's how buying an account works
#781 [08:36] <TEDDYBAERXD> but mojang got the money
#782 [08:36] <clarjon1> No, they didn't.
#783 [08:36] <clarjon1> if they did, you would be premium.
#784 [08:37] <clarjon1> it's a completely automated system.
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#789 [08:49] <miffylee> when I click on the minecraft icon and it does not work
#790 [08:50] <miffylee> publisher cannot be verified . are u sure u want to run this software
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#805 [09:15] <GamerDude1213> Hey, since my father reloaded minecraft, I have a server ran by my friend, and it is plot me.
#806 [09:15] <GamerDude1213> tWill I lost the stuff I made on that plotme server?
#807 [09:16] <GamerDude1213> Can somebody help me?
#808 [09:16] <TheNoodle> unless the server was hosted on the computer where your father reloaded minecreaft there's absouletly no chance your data was lost.
#809 [09:17] <K3V1N8700> can i ask a question?
#810 [09:17] <GamerDude1213> Ok.
#811 [09:17] <TheNoodle> Sure can K3V1N8700.
#812 [09:17] <GamerDude1213> I can help 2
#813 [09:17] <K3V1N8700> there is nu one in #bukkit
#814 [09:17] <GamerDude1213> have to go bye
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#816 [09:18] <K3V1N8700> so can you guys dtell me of a plugins ssimmalr to Groupmanger AND NOT PERMISSIONExX
#817 [09:18] <TheNoodle> K3V1N8700, questions typically directed at #bukkit have no place here
#818 [09:18] <TheNoodle> K3V1N8700, PermissionsEx
#819 [09:18] <TheNoodle> :3
#820 [09:18] <K3V1N8700> i dont like PermissionsEx there must be another more simple?
#821 [09:19] <TheNoodle> not really, but I guess bPermissions if it's still going
#822 [09:19] <K3V1N8700> waht i need is to be able to devide peopel into groups like user and admin and stuff like that
#823 [09:20] <TheNoodle> You mean like GroupManager and PermissionsEx can both do?
#824 [09:21] <K3V1N8700> YES
#825 [09:21] <K3V1N8700> yes sorry
#826 [09:21] <K3V1N8700> and gropmanger is dead *crying*
#827 [09:21] <TheNoodle> wat
#828 [09:21] <TheNoodle> I highly doubt that.
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#830 [09:22] <K3V1N8700> yes grupmange is gone and have been delete from bukkit
#831 [09:22] * TheNoodle nudges Iaccidentally with his toe
#831 [09:22] <Iaccidentally> no.
#832 [09:23] * TheNoodle isn't sure if you're rejecting his toe
#832 [09:23] <K3V1N8700> can bpermissions do this whit groups?
#833 [09:23] <Iaccidentally> yes.
#834 [09:23] <K3V1N8700> lovely im gonna try irt
#835 [09:23] <Iaccidentally> any permissions plugin can do groups
#836 [09:23] <Iaccidentally> not really the place to be asking that though
#837 [09:23] * Iaccidentally snuggles TheNoodle
#837 [09:24] <TheNoodle> :3
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#839 [09:29] <bill> when I try to connect to minecraft, i get an error: "unable to connect java.util playerpermission" "home" --- I have a 64 bit imac, and yesterday I downloaded java, so I thought it would work fine. What am I doing wrong?
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#843 [09:32] <la> I cannot log in and I pay with a credit card and it was charged. What do I do?
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#847 [09:39] <bladeninja> hey guys quick question, I am hosting a minecraft server, and I can connect perfectly fine. And my friend can connect on it from another computer 40 miles away. but my other friend thats about 20 miles away cant connect. He kept getting the error "connection timed out" or something liek that
#848 [09:39] <bladeninja> or something like that.
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#850 [09:40] <bladeninja> And I don't know what to do. I think at one point he got an error like " not a premium user" or something like that but I told him that is a load of bull and I have him a different account that was premium and it still didn't work he still couldn't connect.
#851 [09:41] <bladeninja> I forwarded 25565 perfectly fine considering I can get on and my other friend can get on externally with my external ip address. so i can't think of any other issue except maybe my friends firewall. but how would i fix that?
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#853 [09:42] <Lutzee> bladeninja: sounds like internet or antivirus issues
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#855 [09:42] <bladeninja> yes, but what specifically could it be? thats a little broad.
#856 [09:42] <bladeninja> when you say internet, thats slightly broad.
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#858 [09:43] <Lutzee> Connection issues there can be a lot of problems, get him to disable his firewall and try again
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#860 [09:45] <bladeninja> already tried the firewall disabling. any othe rthoughts? we've tried multiple times
#861 [09:45] <bladeninja> on different days of the month and it still hasn't gotten to work.
#862 [09:46] <Lutzee> Can he connect to other servers fine?
#863 [09:47] <bladeninja> Not that i am aware of. He hasn't tried.
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#865 [09:48] <bladeninja> Failed to connect to the server
#866 [09:48] <bladeninja> operation timed out
#867 [09:48] <bladeninja> he gets that error too sometimes.
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#870 [09:49] <bladeninja> I understand that as a host of the server, I have to forward the ports. Which clearly i did. However, does my friend have to have any ports forwarded in order to connect to my server?
#871 [09:49] <Lutzee> No
#872 [09:49] <clm422> When I try to verify my e-mail it doesn't work and the website won't send me another verification.
#873 [09:50] <Lutzee> It might be slow interenet bladeninja, ask him to run a speed test on speedtest.net
#874 [09:51] <bladeninja> what would a slow internet range be? if i were to run the speedtest? and are there any other possibilities that you can think of?
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#877 [09:54] <Lutzee> Um it can very, if theres a high ping problems can occure and if theres low upload and download speeds problems can occure
#878 [09:55] <bladeninja> well shoot....=( i mean its only him. All my other friends can connect perfectly fine. this is so anoying.
#879 [09:55] <bladeninja> lol
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#888 [10:24] <lynet_> I´m having trouble logging in to minecraft.net. I´ve bought minecraft several months ago and have been logged in earlier, now there keeps coming errors.. then i thought lets try to register it again.. then it says i have not bought minecraft yet..
#889 [10:25] <lynet_> why can i not log in like i used to, now i have two accounts or what?
#890 [10:26] <Lutzee> You purchase the account to play the game, what errors were you getting?
#891 [10:27] <lynet_> a log in error on minecraft.net, we were trying to change skin, we´ve done this for just a couple of weeks ago..
#892 [10:27] <lynet_> the error said that my password didnt mach my log in og something like that..
#893 [10:28] <Lutzee> Sounds Make sure you have your email and password correct
#894 [10:29] <lynet_> yes it was correct, and i got a vertifing for my e-mail, than i tried to change my password, but i still couldnt log in
#895 [10:29] <lynet_> i can log in on the game still, but i cant log in on minecraft.net
#896 [10:31] <Lutzee> Have you got a mojang.com account? Or doy ou still log in with your username?
#897 [10:32] <lynet_> i figured it out.. i had to import my account to the new account or something like that, thank you for youre time :)
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#912 [10:51] <bladeninja> i still can't figure out what the crap is going on with my friend not being able to join mah damn server >_>
#913 [10:51] <bladeninja> He is the only one that can't connect. conenction timed out. my other friends in other locations and other computers can connect just dandy.
#914 [10:52] <bladeninja> this is crap. ridiculous
#915 [10:53] <Selbram> how did you do your port forwarding?
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#917 [10:58] <bladeninja> i must have done it the right way becasue all my other friends can connect perfectly fine
#918 [10:58] <Selbram> did you do it with your router or did you use some application
#919 [10:58] <bladeninja> router
#920 [10:59] <Selbram> what error is your friend getting?
#921 [10:59] <bladeninja> connection timed out
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#923 [11:00] <Selbram> do you see anything in your logs?
#924 [11:00] <bladeninja> it doesn't even let him connect at all. Every time he tried it shut him off every time.
#925 [11:00] <bladeninja> yeah it shows up on my logs too
#926 [11:00] <bladeninja> saying something along the lines of connection timed out
#927 [11:00] <bladeninja> something like "user tried to log in connection timed out"
#928 [11:01] <bladeninja> i cant copy and paste the exact error because im working from a different computer at a different location at the moment
#929 [11:01] <Selbram> thats fine
#930 [11:01] <Selbram> I am just trying to narrow down the issue
#931 [11:01] <Selbram> only one user
#932 [11:01] <Selbram> is this person local to you?
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#934 [11:02] <Selbram> and can they connect to other minecraft servers?
#935 [11:02] <Edenecho> hello, can someone help me with my server problem? Rogue told me to come here since his teamviewer isn't working.
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#937 [11:02] <bladeninja> i haven't checked if they can connect to other minecraft servers.
#938 [11:02] <ErdemInce> hello
#939 [11:02] <bladeninja> howerver
#940 [11:02] <unimatrix> Edenecho , in order to help you we must know the problem
#941 [11:02] <bladeninja> my friends can connect to mine perfectly fine from other locations 40 miles away
#942 [11:02] <unimatrix> otherwise my advice would be : did you reboot it yet?
#943 [11:02] <Edenecho> sure but i don't really wanna talk in public chat
#944 [11:03] <_Rogue_> unimatrix connection issue
#945 [11:03] <ErdemInce> i couldnt find buildcraft compatibility info which major mods is buildcraft incompatible with ?
#946 [11:03] <bladeninja> but i have one particular friend that simply cant conenct
#947 [11:03] <bladeninja> for some weird reason
#948 [11:03] <_Rogue_> connection is refused, however supposedly he doesn't have any firewalls active and the port is forwarded
#949 [11:03] <unimatrix> ErdemInce try the technic or FTB website
#950 [11:03] <Selbram> bladeninja, this one user might have a problem, might not be you, make sure they can connect to another server
#951 [11:03] <unimatrix> for modding
#952 [11:03] <unimatrix> this is for mc vanilla
#953 [11:03] <bladeninja> not locally. he is trying to connect through my external IP
#954 [11:03] <ErdemInce> ok ty
#955 [11:03] <bladeninja> any ideas what that one users problem may be if i do find out that he is unable to connect to another server besides mine?
#956 [11:04] <_Rogue_> Edenecho this is a place where it's safe to talk publicly
#957 [11:04] <_Rogue_> I mean, sure, you don't have to give out TV stuff publicly, but the rest is fine
#958 [11:04] <Edenecho> ok
#959 [11:04] <Edenecho> thanks
#960 [11:04] <Selbram> bladeninja, he would have to pop on here and we would need to troubleshoot with him
#961 [11:04] <bladeninja> poop
#962 [11:04] <bladeninja> lol he's a 10 year old kid
#963 [11:04] <bladeninja> he would have no idea how to do that
#964 [11:05] <_Rogue_> you never know
#965 [11:05] <_Rogue_> I ran a private WoW server at around that age, heh
#966 [11:05] <Selbram> bladeninja, that could be an issue :) if he has an adult that is willing to help someone should be able to assist
#967 [11:05] <bladeninja> ugh...looks like im gonna have to make him download teamview so i can remote in and see if i can get it fixed myself somehow.
#968 [11:05] <Selbram> just use join.me
#969 [11:05] <bladeninja> whats that?
#970 [11:05] <Selbram> free logmein desktop sharing app
#971 [11:06] <Selbram> if you use the basic function
#972 [11:06] <bladeninja> are you talking about hamachi?
#973 [11:06] <Selbram> no
#974 [11:06] <_Rogue_> he means desktop sharing
#975 [11:06] <bladeninja> gotcha
#976 [11:06] <_Rogue_> like teamviewer, using a browser
#977 [11:06] <Selbram> like teamviewer
#978 [11:06] <Selbram> lol
#979 [11:06] <bladeninja> lol herp derp
#980 [11:06] * _Rogue_ ninja
#980 [11:06] <bladeninja> im blonde sometimes
#981 [11:06] <bladeninja> all the time...>_>
#982 [11:06] <bladeninja> anyways
#983 [11:07] <bladeninja> i can try that
#984 [11:07] <Selbram> good luck
#985 [11:07] <bladeninja> hmmm...yeah I will try that and see what i can do
#986 [11:07] <_Rogue_> Selbram if you get a chance can you help Edenecho as well?
#987 [11:07] <bladeninja> any other thoughts
#988 [11:07] <Selbram> What seems to be the issue?
#989 [11:07] <bladeninja> if it is an issue on his side
#990 [11:07] <_Rogue_> 31<_Rogue_>30 connection is refused, however supposedly he doesn't have any firewalls active and the port is forwarded
#991 [11:07] <Selbram> For incoming connection?
#992 [11:07] <_Rogue_> so mainly just double-checking everything
#993 [11:07] <_Rogue_> external, supposedl
#994 [11:07] <_Rogue_> y
#995 [11:08] <Selbram> hmm
#996 [11:08] <Selbram> !check
#997 [11:08] <Selbram> lol
#998 [11:08] <Selbram> okay we can use the check tool here to give it a test
#999 [11:08] <Selbram> type !check yourip:port to check your server
#1000 [11:08] <_Rogue_> my thoughts were it was either binding, using an ipv6 address, or something wasn't actually done right
#1001 [11:08] <_Rogue_> since apparently they connected locally, then that scratches the ipv6
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#1003 [11:09] <Selbram> Edenecho, did you modify the server-ip line in server.properties?
#1004 [11:09] <Edenecho> no
#1005 [11:09] <Edenecho> i didnt
#1006 [11:09] <Selbram> ok
#1007 [11:10] <Edenecho> unimatrix says its a forwarding issue
#1008 [11:10] <Edenecho> since the server is offline on http://gamewebb.com/msmp-server-check.php
#1009 [11:10] <Selbram> can you type !check yourip:port to see if it is working
#1010 [11:10] <Selbram> aha
#1011 [11:10] <Selbram> yeah
#1012 [11:10] <Selbram> same type of checker
#1013 [11:10] <unimatrix> :p
#1014 [11:10] <unimatrix> i know my tools :
#1015 [11:10] <unimatrix> this is a simple port forward issue
#1016 [11:10] <Edenecho> but i forwarded it on the router UDP and TCP
#1017 [11:10] <unimatrix> not my dep.
#1018 [11:11] <Edenecho> i rebooted the router and all firewalls are off
#1019 [11:11] <Edenecho> PC and router wise
#1020 [11:11] <unimatrix> did you create a DMZ for it?
#1021 [11:11] <unimatrix> thats how id do it :p
#1022 [11:11] <Edenecho> now tell me what a DMZ is
#1023 [11:11] <clarjon1> Noooo
#1024 [11:11] <_Rogue_> de-militarized zone
#1025 [11:11] <Edenecho> if you mean no-ip stuff, yeah i did it
#1026 [11:11] <clarjon1> Don't do a DMZ
#1027 [11:11] <_Rogue_> allows everything through, never use it
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#1029 [11:11] <unimatrix> whats wrong with a DMZ
#1030 [11:11] <Selbram> to open
#1031 [11:12] <clarjon1> unimatrix: It exposes every port on your computer.
#1032 [11:12] <_Rogue_> "allows everything through"
#1033 [11:12] <ErdemInce> does thermal expansion 2.2.0 work with 1.4.6 ?
#1034 [11:12] <ErdemInce> i couldnt find a version for 1.4.6
#1035 [11:12] <clarjon1> ErdemInce: This room is for the support of vanilla minecraft -- we don't support mods here.
#1036 [11:12] <Selbram> we don't do mod support here ErdemInce
#1037 [11:12] <unimatrix> your not supposed to run the mcserver on your pc when using DMZ
#1038 [11:12] <unimatrix> use a seperate box
#1039 [11:12] <Selbram> unimatrix, not always an option for some people
#1040 [11:12] <Edenecho> isnt that a bit too complicated?
#1041 [11:12] <unimatrix> preferably with an ISA server
#1042 [11:12] <Edenecho> i mean.. everyone runs a server with just no-ip
#1043 [11:13] <_Rogue_> Edenecho long story short, you don't need a dmz
#1044 [11:13] <_Rogue_> in fact, you shouldn't even use one
#1045 [11:13] <Edenecho> sure, i got that
#1046 [11:13] <_Rogue_> have you tried using the no-ip DUC?
#1047 [11:13] <unimatrix> didnt say he needs one
#1048 [11:13] <Selbram> what is this no-ip stuff you are talking about
#1049 [11:13] <unimatrix> i said id use a dmz :p
#1050 [11:13] <Edenecho> im using the DUC, its running
#1051 [11:13] <_Rogue_> Selbram it's a dns service
#1052 [11:13] <_Rogue_> you run it locally
#1053 [11:13] <clarjon1> Edenecho: Ok, no-ip is DNS.
#1054 [11:13] <Selbram> AH!
#1055 [11:13] <Selbram> dynamic dns gotcha
#1056 [11:13] <Edenecho> right
#1057 [11:14] <_Rogue_> what's the address for your no-ip server Edenecho ?
#1058 [11:14] <Selbram> are you trying to connect using the dns name and it is not working
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#1060 [11:14] <clarjon1> Edenecho: Do you have the computer on the network set up to have a dynamic IP ( dhcp ) or a static ip. If it's DHCP, then the IP on the local network may have changed, causing the port forwarding on the router to be invalid.
#1061 [11:14] <_Rogue_> no he uses canyouseeme, which wouldn't use the dns
#1062 [11:14] <Edenecho> its not working either way, with dns+port with externalip+port without ports
#1063 [11:14] <Edenecho> im only able to connect with Local IP
#1064 [11:14] <_Rogue_> you sometimes can't connect to your own external
#1065 [11:14] <Edenecho> and from the host machine with localhost
#1066 [11:14] <_Rogue_> not all routers support it
#1067 [11:15] <Selbram> Edenecho, I can take a look over join.me if you want
#1068 [11:15] <Edenecho> still the http://gamewebb.com/msmp-server-check.php says server is offline
#1069 [11:15] <clarjon1> Edenecho: Did you check to make sure that the port forwarding is setup properly?
#1070 [11:15] <Edenecho> yeah its a normal forwarding everyone does
#1071 [11:15] <Edenecho> nothin wrong with it i suppose
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#1073 [11:15] <Selbram> that is what I want to clear up, if I can see what is going on I can verify all the peices
#1074 [11:16] <Selbram> pieces
#1075 [11:16] <Edenecho> teamviewer?
#1076 [11:16] <Selbram> ?spelling?
#1077 [11:16] <Selbram> join.me is teamviewer
#1078 [11:16] <_Rogue_> join.me is a -variant- of teamviewer
#1079 [11:16] <_Rogue_> he has teamviewer
#1080 [11:16] <Selbram> bah, I don't :)
#1081 [11:16] <Selbram> just a moment
#1082 [11:16] <_Rogue_> :p
#1083 [11:16] <Edenecho> i can get join.me if you want xD
#1084 [11:16] <Edenecho> i dont care just get this server running somehow
#1085 [11:16] <Edenecho> x)
#1086 [11:16] <tyteen4a03> Selbram, is join.me opensource?
#1087 [11:17] <Selbram> give me a minute to install teamviewer
#1088 [11:17] <Edenecho> alright, thanks
#1089 [11:17] <Selbram> tyteen4a03, nope
#1090 [11:17] <Edenecho> i give you the ID and pass via PM
#1091 [11:17] <Selbram> ok
#1092 [11:17] <tyteen4a03> Selbram, is it as good as TeamViewer in terms of quality?
#1093 [11:18] <Selbram> it is made by the same people who make LogMeIn
#1094 [11:18] <Selbram> and I don't use teamviewer normally so can't tell you
#1095 [11:18] <tyteen4a03> Selbram, so "decent"
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#1097 [11:18] * tyteen4a03 is still waiting for an opensource screen sharing software that is as good as TeamViewer
#1097 [11:18] <Edenecho> @ clarjon1 its DHCP yes
#1098 [11:18] <Selbram> yeah, me too
#1099 [11:19] <Edenecho> but i forwarded the ports just 2 hours ago
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#1102 [11:21] <Selbram> ok Edenecho, show me the port forward you set
#1103 [11:21] <Edenecho> there you go
#1104 [11:21] <Edenecho> translation needed? ^^
#1105 [11:22] <Selbram> *sigh* yup, I am lost without english
#1106 [11:22] <Edenecho> well its just TCP and UDP which should be the same in english
#1107 [11:22] <Edenecho> thats the forwarding you do on the speedport router i got
#1108 [11:23] <Edenecho> its marked "enabled" so the forwarding should be done
#1109 [11:23] <Selbram> is your pc ip mapped to hell-pc?
#1110 [11:23] <Edenecho> pc ip is the.. internal IP? ;D
#1111 [11:24] <Selbram> correct
#1112 [11:24] <Edenecho> one sec
#1113 [11:24] <Selbram> may I control?
#1114 [11:24] <Edenecho> sure
#1115 [11:25] <Edenecho> nat port
#1116 [11:25] <Edenecho> port weiterleitung
#1117 [11:25] <Edenecho> = forwarding
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#1119 [11:26] <Edenecho> hell is the PC where the server is hosted on
#1120 [11:26] <Edenecho> 1337 is the pc im using to play
#1121 [11:26] <Edenecho> yeah click that
#1122 [11:27] <Edenecho> thats the same just for the other pc
#1123 [11:27] <Edenecho> dont know if i need that though x)
#1124 [11:27] <bladeninja> selbram, my friend is apparently playing the game by using his flash drive with the game installed on his flash drive. would that make any difference on as to why he is having errors connecting?
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#1126 [11:27] <Selbram> your forwaring the same ports to two diferent machines
#1127 [11:27] <Edenecho> if this is solving the problem i will slap my face
#1128 [11:27] <Selbram> :)
#1129 [11:28] <Selbram> check with the online site
#1130 [11:28] <Edenecho> still offline
#1131 [11:28] <Selbram> bladeninja, he is using a flash drive he might not be using a real version of the game
#1132 [11:28] <Selbram> that sounds fishy
#1133 [11:29] <Selbram> Edenecho, if there is a save option use it and restart the router
#1134 [11:29] <Edenecho> alright, brb
#1135 [11:30] <bladeninja> yikes....i think that might be the issue then....hmmm....let me think here....what do you mean by real version of game? he definitely didn't pirate it. and scratch that, he isn't playing from the flash drive he just used the flash drive to download the game to his computer
#1136 [11:30] <Selbram> ok
#1137 [11:30] <Selbram> make sure he can connect to another server
#1138 [11:30] <bladeninja> he did apparently at one point a few times along with the connection timed out, he got an error saying something along the lines of user not premium
#1139 [11:31] <Edenecho> alright im back
#1140 [11:31] <Edenecho> you still connected to the pc?
#1141 [11:31] <Selbram> that sounds like a bigger problem than he can't connect to you :)
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#1143 [11:31] <bladeninja> so i gave him another account of mine that i purchased, and he tried to connect and it didn't work
#1144 [11:32] <bladeninja> sooooooo any thoughts? O_o
#1145 [11:32] <clarjon1> If it's an issue on his computer, shouldn't he be the one asking for help? :P
#1146 [11:32] <Selbram> I am having trouble trying to fix the problem via proxy :)
#1147 [11:32] <clarjon1> Unless you have access the computer he's trying to use, bladeninja
#1148 [11:33] <Selbram> he really needs to be asking, and if he is 10 he can get an adult to help him
#1149 [11:33] <bladeninja> he's 10 years old....he doesn't know a thing about it lol
#1150 [11:33] <Edenecho> one sec
#1151 [11:33] <Selbram> Edenecho, ok
#1152 [11:33] <bladeninja> and im the adult to help lmao
#1153 [11:33] <clarjon1> bladeninja: Do you have access to the computer that's having the errors?
#1154 [11:34] <Selbram> bladeninja, you could use something like teamveiwer or join.me to assist him, get his parents approval of course
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#1157 [11:34] <Selbram> it could be something as simple as he is not putting the correct information into the client
#1158 [11:34] <bladeninja> i do not h ave access to the computer thats having the errors howerver, I am on the phone with them trying to help
#1159 [11:34] <Edenecho> Selbram still connected to me?
#1160 [11:34] <Selbram> yes
#1161 [11:34] <bladeninja> whats another server i could try to have him connect to?
#1162 [11:35] <Selbram> AHA!
#1163 [11:35] <Edenecho> see that?
#1164 [11:36] <Selbram> That is interesting
#1165 [11:36] <Edenecho> but
#1166 [11:36] <Edenecho> whats the problem now? :D
#1167 [11:36] <bladeninja> =( im being ignored now...=( lol jk
#1168 [11:37] <Selbram> Edenecho, make your ip visibe on screen again
#1169 [11:37] <Selbram> your online
#1170 [11:37] <Edenecho> holy crap
#1171 [11:37] <Edenecho> im in
#1172 [11:38] <Edenecho> can you try to get in too?
#1173 [11:38] <Edenecho> just to doublecheck?
#1174 [11:38] <Selbram> I cannot connect becuase I don't hve a modded client
#1175 [11:38] <Edenecho> oh wait
#1176 [11:38] <Edenecho> yeah..
#1177 [11:38] <Selbram> :)
#1178 [11:38] <Selbram> it worked though
#1179 [11:38] <Selbram> It gave me a clear error
#1180 [11:38] <Edenecho> so it was just a dumb mistake by not deleting the old ones i used months ago
#1181 [11:38] <Selbram> Have fun!
#1182 [11:39] <bladeninja> soooo.....
#1183 [11:39] <Edenecho> THANKS A LOT! _Rogue_ and Selbram
#1184 [11:39] <Selbram> np
#1185 [11:39] <Selbram> bladeninja, really can't suggest a server
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#1187 [11:43] <bladeninja> why not?
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#1189 [11:45] <Selbram> bladeninja, so... did you get all that stuff I PM'd back to you
#1190 [11:45] <bladeninja> apparently not =( i heard it beeping from that chat but nothing showed up O_o
#1191 [11:46] <Selbram> should be a tab with my name in your webchat
#1192 [11:46] <Edenecho> selbram just a short question, can i play on unmodded servers with a modded client? im only using divineRPG and notenoughitems
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#1194 [11:47] <Selbram> Edenecho, I would not. I use launchers for my modded clients so my vanilla client does not get tainted
#1195 [11:47] <Edenecho> i could also get a copy of the original bin folder
#1196 [11:47] <Edenecho> and swap them if needed
#1197 [11:47] <Edenecho> right?
#1198 [11:47] <Selbram> that is the manual way yes
#1199 [11:48] <Edenecho> ok thank you
#1200 [11:48] <Selbram> I'm lazy though :)
#1201 [11:48] <Edenecho> yeah its just a friend asking
#1202 [11:48] <Edenecho> cuz he wants to play on my server and a not modded one
#1203 [11:48] <worldmc> Edenecho, you can play with modded clients on servers
#1204 [11:48] <Edenecho> but it could cause problems?
#1205 [11:49] <Edenecho> or are they just disabled then
#1206 [11:49] <Selbram> it is possible
#1207 [11:49] <worldmc> not really unless you have mods changing base recipes
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#1209 [11:49] <Edenecho> its just divineRPG which ADDS recipes etc.
#1210 [11:49] <Edenecho> but doesnt change anything
#1211 [11:49] <Edenecho> and notenoughitems is just a recipe overview
#1212 [11:49] <worldmc> it should be fine
#1213 [11:49] <Edenecho> ok otherwise just use a original bin
#1214 [11:50] <Edenecho> thats ok
#1215 [11:50] <Selbram> I don't play with enough modded clients/servers to really give a good answer :)
#1216 [11:50] <Calinou> suddenly: optifine/rei minimap
#1217 [11:50] * Calinou looks at Selbram
#1217 [11:50] <Edenecho> i normally dont use mods too i just liked divineRPG since its so huge and adds so much stuff
#1218 [11:50] <Selbram> Calinou, nope... I play vanilla or heavily modded, nothing in between
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#1228 [12:09] <adamd> hello - is there any way to recover deleted minecraft worlds from an ipod. my daughter spent days creating a world and accidentally deleted it. thanks
#1229 [12:10] <muffingurl911> Minecraft wont open, it crashed last night and I haven't been able to get it up since
#1230 [12:11] <Selbram> adamd, you might be out of luck, I am not sure if you can do a recovery with iCloud or iTunes to try and get it back if it was backed up
#1231 [12:12] <Selbram> muffingurl911, are you getting an error?
#1232 [12:12] <muffingurl911> It gave me a crash document? i dont know what that means, and now when i try to bring it up it gets stuck on the mojang screen and wont respond
#1233 [12:13] <Selbram> ?? index
#1234 [12:13] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1235 [12:14] <adamd> ok, thanks anyway. I don't think it was backed up on iTunes. Crud.
#1236 [12:14] <Selbram> ?? win/reinst
#1237 [12:14] <muffingurl911> huh?
#1238 [12:14] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1239 [12:14] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1240 [12:14] <Selbram> muffingurl911, You might have to reinstall, please follow these directions.
#1241 [12:15] <Selbram> adamd, sorry to hear that.
#1242 [12:15] <muffingurl911> oh ok :) will do
#1243 [12:15] <Selbram> muffingurl911, make sure to NOT delete your saves directory
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#1245 [12:15] <adamd> yep. she's not happy about it. thanks anyway
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#1247 [12:16] <muffingurl911> ok and can I keep the texture packs as well?
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#1249 [12:21] <muffingurl911> Ah there it is! thaaaanks. Just gatta patch it back up and it should be good to go
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#1252 [12:31] <soma_> hu
#1253 [12:31] <soma_> hi *
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#1257 [12:33] <GamerDude1213> How do i set Minecraft as a Desktop icon without draging it?
#1258 [12:33] <Calinou> make a shortcut to it?
#1259 [12:33] <Calinou> right click > create shortcut
#1260 [12:34] <GamerDude1213> Yes. That is what I meant.
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#1262 [12:34] <hossam> hello
#1263 [12:34] <GamerDude1213> WITHOUT making a shortcut.
#1264 [12:34] <hossam> can u help me sir ?
#1265 [12:34] <Selbram> GamerDude1213, you don't
#1266 [12:34] <GamerDude1213> ok
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#1268 [12:34] <GamerDude1213> c ya
#1269 [12:35] <Calinou> why not make a shortcut?
#1270 [12:35] <Selbram> GamerDude1213, shortcut or put the exe diredtly on your desktop
#1271 [12:35] <Calinou> ^
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#1273 [12:35] <Selbram> hossam, what do you need assistance with?
#1274 [12:35] <Calinou> not shortcutting will make the .exe extension appear (on a properly configured windows)
#1275 [12:35] <Calinou> ugly :P
#1276 [12:35] <Selbram> Calinou, he is already gone
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#1278 [12:36] <hossam> i got this massege today Your access to Minecraft has been revoked‏
#1279 [12:36] <Calinou> scam?
#1280 [12:36] <Selbram> email?
#1281 [12:36] <hossam> oldmangz@live.com
#1282 [12:36] <Selbram> no, was that an email that you received?
#1283 [12:36] <hossam> yup
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#1285 [12:37] <Lutzee> hossam: what address did the email come from?
#1286 [12:37] <Selbram> don't click on any links
#1287 [12:37] <Selbram> go to mojang.com and login and change your password
#1288 [12:37] <Necrodoom> would be pretty much a scam, yep
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#1290 [12:38] <hossam> i dont know
#1291 [12:38] <Selbram> alright, I am out for a bit
#1292 [12:38] <hossam> there is no link
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#1294 [12:38] <Dadl123123> wanting to play online I get this error message Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Failed to start game A full error report has been saved to /Users/Supercount/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2013-02-05_18.33.03-client.txt - Please include a copy of that file (Not this screen!) if you report this c
#1295 [12:39] <Necrodoom> www.pastebin.com
#1296 [12:39] <Dadl123123> when I download the 270KB file for Mac I only get 146kB and the systems says the file is corrupted What to do?
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#1299 [12:41] <Lutzee> ??> Dadl123123 mac/gatekeeper
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#1301 [12:41] <VoxelHead> Dadl123123: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#1302 [12:41] <Lutzee> ??> Dadl123123 mac/gatekeeper/disable
#1303 [12:41] <VoxelHead> Dadl123123: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#1304 [12:42] <Lutzee> Dadl123123: the size listed on the website is incorrect
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#1306 [12:44] <hossam> Hello, blood The purchase that gave you access to Minecraft has been reversed upon request. This means that you no longer will be able to play the game. If you believe that this reversal has been made in error, or have any other questions please contac
#1307 [12:44] <hossam> WHAT IS THIS !
#1308 [12:45] <hossam> how can i fix this ?
#1309 [12:45] <Lutzee> What is your accounts username?
#1310 [12:46] <hossam> bloodyshowx
#1311 [12:46] <Lutzee> !paid bloodshowx
#1312 [12:47] <hossam> i bught it and i play it for a week now
#1313 [12:47] <Necrodoom> hossam: are you able to connect to mojang.com>
#1314 [12:47] <Lutzee> Okay well its definately been reversed by mojang
#1315 [12:47] <Lutzee> hossam: who paid for it?
#1316 [12:47] <hossam> and today i get this messge
#1317 [12:47] <Necrodoom> hossam: again, are you able to connect to mojang.com?
#1318 [12:48] <Lutzee> hossam: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
#1319 [12:48] <Dadl123123> i downloaded it from a windows 7 computer too - same problem
#1320 [12:48] <Lutzee> "Mojang is periodically instructed by a bank or payment partner to make a refund, which happens automatically. If you have purchased a copy of the game, and have lost premium status, you may have a refund on that transaction. Please check to see if you've been refunded before trying the other solutions on this page. If that is the case, you will simply need to make your purchase again, which will upgrade the account to premium."
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#1322 [12:51] <Dadl123123> i managed it! Thank you!! Bye!
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#1324 [12:51] <clarjon1> hossam: How did you buy the game?
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#1336 [13:05] <majaxpilotleader> I have payed for the installable version of minecraft but it doesnt work. How to install it?
#1337 [13:06] <majaxpilotleader> Any one?
#1338 [13:06] <majaxpilotleader> Someone?
#1339 [13:06] <majaxpilotleader> Somebody
#1340 [13:07] <majaxpilotleader> No one?
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#1342 [13:07] <majaxpilotleader> Any body?
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#1344 [13:10] <chris_> I have a 32 bit minecraft but my pc cam play a 64 bit minecraft. How can i date this to 64bit up?
#1345 [13:11] <Morrolan> There are no separate versions of Minecraft for 32 respectively 64 bit Minecraft.
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#1347 [13:11] <Morrolan> You can use 64 bit Java, hwoever.
#1348 [13:11] <Morrolan> however*
#1349 [13:12] <chris_> why says it than i have to update to 64bit???
#1350 [13:12] <Morrolan> What does it say exactly, where does it say it?
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#1353 [13:13] <mattym> it probably says its when he is set to Far render distance
#1354 [13:14] <mattym> it gives 32bit java users a warning
#1355 [13:15] <chris_> I think i have a 32bit jave
#1356 [13:15] <chris_> *java
#1357 [13:15] <Morrolan> Then grab a 64 bit version.
#1358 [13:15] <chris_> ok thanks
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#1361 [13:28] <Mic_> My purchase was interrupted yet I was still charged- what do I do now? I have a transaction number but what do I do with it??
#1362 [13:28] <Mic_> Help
#1363 [13:28] <mattym> if you have that info you can place a help ticket on the mojang site
#1364 [13:29] <Mic_> Help I have a transaction number what do I do with it? Mojang thinks I haven't paid
#1365 [13:29] <Mic_> Oh sorry- just saw that. I did do the ticket thingy daaaaays ago.......
#1366 [13:30] <Morrolan> And it takes weeeeks to get a response.
#1367 [13:30] <Mic_> Is that the only way? I can't do anything online myself? Enter my transaction number somewhere.
#1368 [13:30] <Morrolan> There is no automated system in place to look up payments, no.
#1369 [13:32] <Mic_> Shrill said I should respond back to them within 2 business days if my issue isn't resolved....
#1370 [13:32] <Morrolan> Shrill being some payment provider?
#1371 [13:33] <Mic_> So my son really had to wait weeeeks before he can play on his paid account??
#1372 [13:33] <mattym> You can always call your credit provider and cancel the payment
#1373 [13:33] <Morrolan> Alternatively, dispute the payment with your payment provider, and buy it again. *shrug*
#1374 [13:33] <mattym> then just buy it again
#1375 [13:33] <Morrolan> Are you sure that you didn't succeed in buying Minecraft, anyway?
#1376 [13:34] <Mic_> Yes- or money bookers...whatever the name. I had to ask them for my transaction number....
#1377 [13:34] <Morrolan> i.e. is it not showing up in your Mojang accout on https://account.mojang.com ?
#1378 [13:34] <Mic_> Well I can't log in to the account we made
#1379 [13:35] <Morrolan> Normally, when one receives a transaction ID by PayPal / Moneybookers, the payment succeeded.
#1380 [13:35] <Morrolan> Try to sign in on https://account.mojang.com and see whether Minecraft shows up under "My games"
#1381 [13:35] <mattym> yeah but mojang hasnt put in a system to handle abandoned registrations
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#1383 [13:38] <Mic_> Where is "my games"
#1384 [13:38] <Morrolan> Did you sign in yet?
#1385 [13:39] <Mic_> Well I clicked on my account and it has all my info so I think so (I'm on iPad right now)
#1386 [13:39] <Morrolan> The topmost heading on https://account.mojang.com/me should be 'my games'.
#1387 [13:39] <Morrolan> Below that should be another one 'My Gift Codes"
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#1389 [13:39] <Morrolan> They might not show up if no games have been registered yet, not sure about that.
#1390 [13:41] <Mic_> It says "my account" under which it has settings but not seeing "my games"
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#1392 [13:41] <mattym> just click my account, dont drop it down
#1393 [13:41] <Morrolan> Eh, not in the hover menu. When you click on "My Account" itself, it should take you to an overview page.
#1394 [13:43] <Mic_> So do I put the transaction number in the gift codes box?
#1395 [13:43] <Morrolan> No.
#1396 [13:43] <Morrolan> Never mentioned anything along those lines, now did I. :)
#1397 [13:43] <Morrolan> Do you see a page similar to this? http://morrolan.ch/minecrafthelp/mojang_my_games.png
#1398 [13:45] <Morrolan> If there's a similar one, yet there is no "My Games" listing, the chances are the payment disappeared into Nirvana, indeed.
#1399 [13:45] <Mic_> Well similar- but doesn't have any games in there. My payment hasn't registered :(
#1400 [13:45] <Morrolan> Yea, then either wait for Mojang's support to respond (takes three to four weeks, usually), or cancel the payment and buy it anew.
#1401 [13:45] <Mic_> I have confirmation from the folks I paid....
#1402 [13:46] <Morrolan> In which case Mojang's support will be able to fix this issue, once they get to your e-mail.
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#1404 [13:47] <Mic_> Oooo- yes- I think I'll cancel and never buy a new one! Thanks, I appreciate your assistance! Think we'll just stick to the iPad app. :)
#1405 [13:47] <Morrolan> *waves*
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#1408 [13:52] <Morrolan> Well, you just missed some not-too happy ex-customer. :P
#1409 [13:53] <mattym> I think 70% of the issues ive seen in the last few days have been due to people not finishing the purchase/registration
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#1411 [13:55] <Marc_IRL> mattym: How so?
#1412 [13:56] <KICK_ASS_DON> I have lost the mining button and others on the control panel and it will not re set ie button one has gone red and if I try to change it goes back when i press done
#1413 [13:56] <mattym> A lot of people come here and complain that their purchases didnt go through and then later admit that they stopped half way through the process
#1414 [13:57] <mattym> If its red that means you are trying to use it twice
#1415 [13:57] <KICK_ASS_DON> You have not answered the question
#1416 [13:57] <mattym> there was a question in there?
#1417 [13:57] <KICK_ASS_DON> but i cant change the back
#1418 [13:59] <mattym> if he deletes option.txt will it reset to default?
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#1421 [14:00] <Marc_IRL> mattym: Have they indicated what part of the process they're getting hung up on? Maybe something that I can note in order to streamline the process? I already have a report on the purchasing process that I'm putting together.
#1422 [14:01] <mattym> Marc_IRL: No i think its just them not paying attention
#1423 [14:01] <mattym> None of them have really said anything about the system itself not working
#1424 [14:02] <Marc_IRL> Well, if it's not completely foolproof, there's still room for improvement
#1425 [14:02] <mattym> Well they could really use a "continue registration" option
#1426 [14:02] <mattym> with a system to pick up where you left off in registering
#1427 [14:02] <mattym> that would solve a lot of the issue
#1428 [14:03] <mattym> KICK_ASS_DON: Go into your .minecraft folder and delete options.txt
#1429 [14:03] <mattym> that should reset all he buttons to default
#1430 [14:04] <Marc_IRL> I'm unsure about the need for something like that. It takes a few seconds to create a Mojang account, and if they abandon the process, they can always just log back into that account and pick up whatever they were doing.
#1431 [14:04] <mattym> no it would seem that they cant
#1432 [14:05] <mattym> one example was a person that purchased MC and stopped half way through the registration cause they hadnt decided on a username
#1433 [14:05] <mattym> and could never get back to that portion of the registration
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#1435 [14:05] <Marc_IRL> I guess I'd have to see a screenshot or something. If they've made a purchase, but have not select a username, there's a *big* green box on their account screen that prompts them to finish by creating a username.
#1436 [14:06] <mattym> well i cant personaly test that, but from a few of the issues ive seen it would seem like that system isnt always working
#1437 [14:07] <Marc_IRL> If you run into something specific and documented that I can look into, let me know
#1438 [14:07] <mattym> sure
#1439 [14:07] <mattym> next time i see someone with that issue ill have them take screenshots
#1440 [14:09] <mattym> as Morro said you missed another case of one by about 2 seconds
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#1443 [14:15] <hossam> hello
#1444 [14:16] <hossam> i get this messge today
#1445 [14:16] <hossam> Your access to Minecraft has been revoked‏
#1446 [14:16] <hossam> canu help me
#1447 [14:16] <hossam> my account is bloodyshow
#1448 [14:16] <hossam> bloodyshowx
#1449 [14:16] <hossam> i bught the game from this site
#1450 [14:16] <hossam> Your access to Minecraft has been revoked‏
#1451 [14:16] <hossam> http://www.mmo-cards.com/game/78.php
#1452 [14:17] <worldmc> well do you have the recipe id of your purchase?
#1453 [14:17] <hossam> yh
#1454 [14:17] <worldmc> did you buy it at mojangs site?
#1455 [14:17] <hossam> no
#1456 [14:17] <hossam> this site
#1457 [14:17] <worldmc> then we and mojang cant help you
#1458 [14:18] <hossam> http://www.mmo-cards.com/game/78.php
#1459 [14:18] <hossam> i got the messge from u
#1460 [14:18] <hossam> Hello, blood The purchase that gave you access to Minecraft has been reversed upon request. This means that you no longer will be able to play the game. If you believe that this reversal has been made in error, or have any other questions please contact customer support. Take care, Mojang.
#1461 [14:19] <Gone_Ralex> hossam, only buy the game from Mojang.com/minecraft.net
#1462 [14:19] <worldmc> well then contact the costumer support. we arent mojang see ??< volunteers
#1463 [14:19] <KICK_ASS_DON> i now cant mine atall
#1464 [14:20] <worldmc> KICK_ASS_DON, can you acces the controlls menu?
#1465 [14:20] <Marc_IRL> worldmc: The exact solution to that is at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium :-)
#1466 [14:21] <worldmc> yep didnt think of that link of the top of my head
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#1468 [14:22] <Marc_IRL> If you ever want to find a help link, I added keywords to make them easily searchable. Toss "refunded" into the search bar, and that comes right up :-)
#1469 [14:22] <Marc_IRL> Hopefully those articles address the majority of account or payment issues, and they can just be directed to the corresponding article
#1470 [14:23] <worldmc> yep you are right
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#1472 [14:28] <KICK_ASS_DON> will i have to re by it
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#1474 [14:29] <Marc_IRL> Always surprised at the number of people who think re-purchasing will fix a game issue, or those who want to "start over". The concepts of account vs game download aren't always immediately grasped, depending on the technical level of the user.
#1475 [14:30] <Marc_IRL> I wish there was an easier way to convey this
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#1479 [14:32] <Zafeer> My minecraft keeps crashing when building my world. How can I repair it?
#1480 [14:38] <worldmc> zafeer could you provide a crashlog on pastebin? if you dont know how see : ??< pastebin
#1481 [14:38] <worldmc> and if you dont know how to get a error log just tell
#1482 [14:40] <Zafeer> I have the error log how do I post it?
#1483 [14:41] <kusanagi> Marc_IRL, you'd be surprised
#1484 [14:42] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Zafeer pastebin
#1485 [14:42] <VoxelHead> Zafeer: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1490 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: I use the following analogy: If you buy a membership at a car wash that lets you get as many washes as you like per month, and you go through once and they miss a spot, which makes more sense: to buy a new membership after cancelling the first, or to just get another wash done?
#1491 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: for some reason, putting things in terms of physical objects and tangible services helps things 'click' better.
#1492 [14:49] <Marc_IRL> Refund the membership! That'll fix the problem.
#1493 [14:49] <Marc_IRL> Those spots only answer to new memberships.
#1494 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> (interestingly, I'm having a hilarious problem with such a car wash at the moment that's had the result, so far, of this month costing me nagative thirteen dollars)
#1495 [14:50] <Marc_IRL> I think it's the same people who complain because they want to re-download the game, but they can't redeem their PIN again.
#1496 [14:50] <Marc_IRL> The concepts of digital goods and accounts are just foreign
#1497 [14:55] <kusanagi> i knwo
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#1499 [14:56] <Zafeer> Here it is http://pastebin.com/yhMxrxRD
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#1501 [14:59] <mattym> Zafeer: Is this only when building a new world or when you try to load any world?
#1502 [15:00] <Zafeer> Haven't tried to load another one. This is the main world that I use. I'll give it a shot
#1503 [15:02] <Zafeer> Just that one world seems to be unloadable
#1504 [15:02] <mattym> then it seems that the world my have become corrupt
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#1506 [15:04] <Zafeer> =/ Well that sucks. No way to rebuild the file?
#1507 [15:05] <mattym> Zafeer: you will have to do some research on methods of fixing this, there are many possible ways its could have gone wrong and many possible fixes
#1508 [15:05] <Lord_Ralex> MCEdit or Minecraft Region Fixer might be able to help
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#1510 [15:06] <mattym> Id try region fixer, cause the crash report doesnt give enough info to even know where to begin with MCEDit
#1511 [15:07] <bruno9> on xbox 360 version of minecraft. loading nether and just froze on me any fixes I can do or do I have to wait for an update?
#1512 [15:08] <Zafeer> Time to start backing up stuff on a regular basis I guess. Thanks for the help
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#1514 [15:08] <AM2> Hi all, has anyone seen the Toshiba C660 problem with Windows 8 laptops? (thinking of buying one, hoping Grey's fix will work)
#1515 [15:08] <worldmc> bruno there arent many people here that know how to fix the xbox stuff. the channel is made mostly for the computer version
#1516 [15:09] <bruno9> not much help out there any specifics on where to look then?
#1517 [15:09] <mattym> Any "fix" for the 360 would require discussion of some illegal methods
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#1519 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> AM2 - So far, I've only seen C660 laptops with win 7 come in here with the problem
#1520 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Not to say that win8 wouldn't have the problem as well, I just haven't seen it.
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#1522 [15:17] <mattym> What is it about that PC that causes an issue?
#1523 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> poor video drivers.
#1524 [15:18] <mattym> ah
#1525 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Integrated intel HD video chipset, with OEM drivers that are digitally signed, so that only toshiba's drivers work.
#1526 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> And toshiba's only released a single driver, when it was manufactured.
#1527 [15:18] <AM2> Hi Grey, thanks for the reply. I drew a blank searching pastebin for 660 reports using Win 8, so either it's ok or W 8 is too new. I refer to http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12.html
#1528 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> AM2 - I remember that one, it still plagues users to this day. Had a c660 user come in yesterday.
#1529 [15:21] <AM2> Grey, yes, I saw a 660 report in IRC logs 3 days ago, and another from October.
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#1547 [16:02] <Deas> HALP
#1548 [16:02] <Deas> theres a dog after me!
#1549 [16:03] * Deas screams for help some more
#1549 [16:03] <Deas> it's just outside the window, barking at me! xD.
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#1554 [16:15] <carson3503> my game continues to crash after the first 5 minutes of play
#1555 [16:17] <mattym> can you provide us with teh crash report
#1556 [16:17] <mattym> use pastebin
#1557 [16:17] <mattym> ??> carson3503 pastebin
#1558 [16:17] <VoxelHead> carson3503: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1560 [16:18] <mattym> apparantly not
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#1562 [16:19] <AdriannaKitten> I need to speak with a real person
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#1565 [16:20] <mattym> But i thought i was a real boy :(
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#1569 [16:23] <Wreckage> We're trying to transfer a server with work on it from one person's computer to another; how do?
#1570 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Copy the folder where the server is located
#1571 [16:24] <mattym> Do you mean server or game save?
#1572 [16:24] <Wreckage> The physical properties of the server
#1573 [16:24] <Wreckage> The buildings, mountains, etc.
#1574 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Then copy the folder where the server is located
#1575 [16:25] <Wreckage> We've sent the individual files under 'world' over skype and replaced them with the other person's 'world' and when we log on it's not our server.
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#1577 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Then either you're copying the wrong folder, or you didn't copy the entire folder
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#1581 [16:30] <Deas> god afton, marc.
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#1583 [16:31] <Deas> ah probably a ghost, like the rest of them
#1584 [16:31] <Deas> y'all are ghost! stop haunting me!
#1585 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Boo.
#1586 [16:32] * Deas flaps around with his hands and arms like if he is trying to get away from biees
#1586 [16:32] <Marc_IRL> wur r biees?
#1587 [16:32] <Marc_IRL> God, I can't even fake type correctly.
#1588 [16:32] <lukegb> Marc_IRL: they're like bees but *I* like dem
#1589 [16:32] <Marc_IRL> haha
#1590 [16:33] <Deas> :p
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#1595 [16:35] <Cruplezone> Hey!
#1596 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hoy-hoy
#1597 [16:36] <Cruplezone> OMAGAHD youre still here!
#1598 [16:36] <Cruplezone> After all this time?!
#1599 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Indeed.
#1600 [16:37] <Cruplezone> Well amazing
#1601 [16:37] <Cruplezone> I swear youre the most helpful guy in the world
#1602 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> It's the incredible salary Mojang is paying me
#1603 [16:37] <lukegb> -$5
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#1605 [16:37] <lukegb> per minute
#1606 [16:37] <Cruplezone> lol
#1607 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> And benefits
#1608 [16:37] <lukegb> It's so large that it overflowed the integer and became negative
#1609 [16:37] <Marc_IRL> GreyVulpine: :-(
#1610 [16:37] <Deas> not to mention the cash to stay online.
#1611 [16:38] <lukegb> I knew I shouldn't store salaries in pico-cents in the database, but NOOOOO
#1612 [16:38] <Cruplezone> Anyways can I once again seek your help with setting up a server?
#1613 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Heh Marc_IRL.
#1614 [16:38] <Cruplezone> Perhaps with teamviewer
#1615 [16:39] <Cruplezone> Could you by any chance help me out?
#1616 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure anybody here could help you with that.
#1617 [16:39] * GreyVulpine nudges Marc_IRL.
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#1618 [16:39] <lukegb> I'm sure Marc_IRL would much rather look at his long list of emails :P
#1619 [16:39] <Cruplezone> Well with my port forwarding I'm just not sure where to look in my router
#1620 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Aww, I suppose.
#1621 [16:39] <Deas> NAT perhaps?
#1622 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Possibly
#1623 [16:39] <Marc_IRL> GreyVulpine: I dunno much about setting up servers, mine's hosted online through MCProHosting :p
#1624 [16:39] * Cruplezone tips hat to GreatVulpine
#1624 [16:39] <Deas> some has it on WAN thought
#1625 [16:40] <Cruplezone> So you will?
#1626 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the router.
#1627 [16:40] <Cruplezone> netgear
#1628 [16:40] <Lord_Ralex> what model?
#1629 [16:40] <lukegb> Cruplezone: have you tried http://portforward.com/ (if it wants you to buy PF Config, hit close) - it's quite... useful ;)
#1630 [16:40] <Deas> brand doesnt really tell us much, routers software goes high and low
#1631 [16:41] <Cruplezone> I have tried that website the page for prot forwarding that it says my computer has doesn't exist
#1632 [16:41] <Cruplezone> I think it's outdated
#1633 [16:41] <Cruplezone> If I could just find that page I'd be set
#1634 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, on netgear routers, there should be a port forwarding on the left side of the router menu, under advanced
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#1636 [16:42] <lukegb> Cruplezone: if you like, I'll help over TeamViewer - I'm not busy right now
#1637 [16:42] <Deas> a simple screenshot would be fine for me
#1638 [16:42] <Cruplezone> Well awesome!
#1639 [16:43] <Deas> teamviewer is overrated sometimes
#1640 [16:43] <lukegb> It's security is massively overrated, but the value of being able to see what people are trying to do can never be overestimated :P
#1641 [16:44] <Deas> hence me saying a simple screenshot would probably be enough
#1642 [16:44] <Cruplezone> User 245224460 pass: 9412 Thanks!
#1643 [16:44] <Cruplezone> I ouldnt figure out msg
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#1645 [16:45] <Deas> hope you dont mind i hope on
#1646 [16:45] <Cruplezone> It's a party
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#1648 [16:46] <Guest41788> Hey! With the NBTExplorer I can change stuff in the level.dat for instance like what the villagers are trading. Is it also possible, that I can define that they won't level up after I traded with them?
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#1651 [16:47] <lukegb> Cruplezone: what's your LAN IP?
#1652 [16:48] <lukegb> Sorry, I'm asking over TeamViewer chat but you're not replying :P
#1653 [16:52] <Cruplezone> Lol sorry probably shouldve mentioned its not my computer right nwo
#1654 [16:53] <Deas> lol at first i thought your screen was mirrored by some weird program but then i noticed the letters xD
#1655 [16:54] <lukegb> Cruplezone: I worked that out :P
#1656 [16:54] <Cruplezone> Thanks guys X)
#1657 [16:54] <lukegb> I take it that was your voice I could hear over TS :P
#1658 [16:54] <Cruplezone> Youre really awesome as always
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#1663 [17:01] <NuclearFluid> Hello
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#1675 [17:17] <broper729> wouldn't let me. place blocks what to do
#1676 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Has it worked before?
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#1685 [17:42] <bouncedcech> I have a problem with loading Minecraft on my Mac.
#1686 [17:42] <jp> me too but i have a windows 8
#1687 [17:42] <bouncedcech> After I open the application and click the "login" button, my game screen goes black.
#1688 [17:42] <jp> me too
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#1690 [17:43] <bouncedcech> It started doing this after I downloaded the MCPatcher v. 1.4.7.
#1691 [17:44] <bouncedcech> How do I get the menu screen to appear after I log in?
#1692 [17:44] <Lutzee> ??> bouncedcech forceupdate
#1693 [17:44] <VoxelHead> bouncedcech: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1694 [17:44] <VoxelHead> bouncedcech: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#1697 [17:45] <bouncedcech> That worked! Thank you!
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#1702 [17:48] <awesome_> can i play on my ipad on minecraft.net
#1703 [17:48] <MinecraftDad> no
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#1705 [17:49] <awesome_> why not
#1706 [17:49] <DiskDaemon> You would need to purchase separately the Minecraft PE version for the ipad, which is a separate smaller version of the game
#1707 [17:49] <MinecraftDad> ok
#1708 [17:49] <awesome_> i can get to the website and i am talking to you right now from my ipad
#1709 [17:49] <MinecraftDad> it said minecraft has crashed
#1710 [17:50] <DiskDaemon> What said? The ipad said that?
#1711 [17:50] <MinecraftDad> no my pc
#1712 [17:50] <awesome_> i can get on the website form it and i am talking to u right now
#1713 [17:50] <ldeegz> when I go to the nether minecraft stops working and i'm stuck on the portal in the nether - why?
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#1715 [17:51] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Do you have a crash report?
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#1717 [17:51] <awesome_> No
#1718 [17:51] <MinecraftDad> yes
#1719 [17:51] <DiskDaemon> ??> MinecraftDad pastebin
#1720 [17:51] <VoxelHead> MinecraftDad: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1721 [17:51] <jackfiredragon> my minecraft has crashed!!!
#1722 [17:51] <NG0R> is anyone having "login failed" issues with their MC clients?
#1723 [17:51] <awesome_> Where can I get a hunger games sever
#1724 [17:51] <MinecraftDad> ok minecraft.net
#1725 [17:51] <MinecraftDad> demo
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#1727 [17:52] <awesome_> what
#1728 [17:52] <jackfiredragon> no,its just me on minecraft, but i recently got modloader and the herobrine mod and i think theres a bug in it
#1729 [17:52] <NG0R> We have multiple machines Linux/Mac (several kids) and all of the clients are giving the same "login failed" error even though the useriD/PW works if I connect to the website and check the accounts.
#1730 [17:53] <awesome_> where ca i get a hunger games ever
#1731 [17:53] <jackfiredragon> how should i send the report?
#1732 [17:53] <DiskDaemon> ??> awesome_ smp/servers
#1733 [17:53] <VoxelHead> awesome_: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1734 [17:53] <VoxelHead> awesome_: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#1735 [17:53] <DiskDaemon> ??> jackfiredragon pastebin
#1736 [17:53] <VoxelHead> jackfiredragon: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1737 [17:53] <awesome_> Awesome
#1738 [17:53] <awesome_> how about harry potter
#1739 [17:54] <MinecraftDad> it said please show file to mojang so i went here
#1740 [17:54] <awesome_> are there any harry potter games
#1741 [17:54] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Please paste the contents of the file to pastebin
#1742 [17:54] <MinecraftDad> ok how do i do that
#1743 [17:55] <DiskDaemon> awesome_: We don't deal with modded stuff here
#1744 [17:55] <DiskDaemon> awesome_: The #smp channel should know about such things
#1745 [17:55] <awesome_> `what's modded
#1746 [17:55] <DiskDaemon> awesome_: Modded, is different from what normally comes with the game
#1747 [17:55] <jackfiredragon> crash-2013-02-05_16.48.07-client.txt
#1748 [17:55] <MinecraftDad> how do i do this disk
#1749 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Follow the instructions from VoxelHead
#1750 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> ??> MinecraftDad pastebin
#1751 [17:56] <VoxelHead> MinecraftDad: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1752 [17:56] <awesome_> one last thing how do i turn into a mob
#1753 [17:56] <jackfiredragon> whats pastebin?
#1754 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> awesome_: You don't
#1755 [17:56] <jackfiredragon> get a skin
#1756 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> jackfiredragon: It's a web site to let people paste large amounts of text, so that others can see it
#1757 [17:56] <awesome_> But I saw my friend do it
#1758 [17:57] <jackfiredragon> what is the link?
#1759 [17:57] <DiskDaemon> awesome_: that might be a mod that they used - we don't deal with mods here
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#1761 [17:57] <DiskDaemon> jackfiredragon: pastebin.com
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#1763 [17:57] <awesome_> Ok where can I get a skin
#1764 [17:57] <jackfiredragon> ok, just a minute
#1765 [17:57] <DiskDaemon> awesome_: You can download the default skin from minecraft.net - and edit it using a paint editor
#1766 [17:58] <awesome_> Dos that cost money
#1767 [17:58] <DiskDaemon> awesome_: no
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#1769 [17:58] <jackfiredragon> --- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Oh - I know what I did wrong! Time: 2/5/13 4:48 PM Description: Unexpected error java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.Exception: Image not found: /item/hdisc3.png at ModLoader.registerAllTextureOverrides(ModLoader.java:1582) at ModLoader.onTick(ModLoader.java:1148) at EntityRendererProxy.b(EntityRendererProxy.java:21) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.J(SourceFile:605) at net.minec
#1770 [17:58] <awesome_> where on minecraft.net
#1771 [17:58] <DiskDaemon> jackfiredragon: Not here you dope
#1772 [17:58] <DiskDaemon> ??> jackfiredragon pastebin
#1773 [17:58] <VoxelHead> jackfiredragon: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1774 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> MOdloader issue.
#1775 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> ??> jackfiredragon forceupdate
#1776 [17:59] <VoxelHead> jackfiredragon: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1777 [17:59] <VoxelHead> jackfiredragon: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1778 [17:59] <jackfiredragon> i did
#1779 [17:59] <NG0R> is anyone else getting "login failed" messages from their client?
#1780 [17:59] <awesome_> where on minecraft.net
#1781 [17:59] <DiskDaemon> NG0R: The login servers are all looking good
#1782 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> awesome_ - For skins, try a site like: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22375&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20%2864-bit%29*&DownloadType=%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09Drivers%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09
#1783 [17:59] <NG0R> hmmm
#1784 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> er
#1785 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> awesome_ - http://minecraft.novaskin.me/
#1786 [17:59] <jackfiredragon> how do i get it to someone who can help on pastebin?
#1787 [17:59] <MinecraftDad> ok i did it disk
#1788 [17:59] <awesome_> Thanks
#1789 [17:59] <Lutzee> NG0R: double check your login info
#1790 [18:00] <NG0R> getting it on two Linux machines and a Mac.
#1791 [18:00] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Please continue to follow those pastebin instructions from VoxelHead
#1792 [18:00] <NG0R> The IDs work on the website and I can see the profiles.
#1793 [18:00] <MinecraftDad> ok where
#1794 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> NG0R - Happen to use any special characters in your password?
#1795 [18:00] <DiskDaemon> ??> MinecraftDad pastebin
#1796 [18:00] <VoxelHead> MinecraftDad: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1797 [18:00] <Lutzee> NG0R: Make sure you are logging in with email or password
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#1799 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> NG0R - If so, change it on the website.
#1800 [18:00] <Lutzee> and GreyVulpine that was fixed
#1801 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> It was?
#1802 [18:00] <NG0R> nope, standard 0-9 and alpha
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#1804 [18:01] <Lutzee> Yes, it was login server side issue
#1805 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#1806 [18:01] <MinecraftDad> i did
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#1808 [18:01] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Please finish reading those VoxelHead instructions
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#1810 [18:02] <jackfiredragon> http://pastebin.com/3uARXBd5
#1811 [18:02] <MinecraftDad> why cant i just read it by calling me
#1812 [18:02] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Sorry, things don't work that way
#1813 [18:02] <NG0R> both of the userIDs are using the emailaddress since they are being used in demo mode (don't want to spend the money until we have everything tested out)
#1814 [18:02] <jackfiredragon> i gotta go
#1815 [18:02] <MinecraftDad> y
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#1817 [18:03] <DiskDaemon> jackfiredragon: We can help you fix that by instructing you to remove all mods, by reinstalling the game
#1818 [18:03] <DiskDaemon> gah, what timing
#1819 [18:03] <NG0R> The app runs fine locally or against a local server with auth=false. --fails with internet Auth.
#1820 [18:03] <Lutzee> NG0R: ahh... you need to use the online version of the demo, the downloaded version has known issues
#1821 [18:03] <Lutzee> eg minecraft.net/demo
#1822 [18:03] <MinecraftDad> i cant play the demo on my windows 8 computer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1823 [18:04] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: have you pasteed the crash report to the pastebin web site?
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#1825 [18:04] <NG0R> I don't think that the browser version with work on my Mac. Maybe I can try it on the Linux machines... give me a second to fire up a VM.
#1826 [18:04] <DaBeastAustin> can someone help me?
#1827 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> DaBeastAustin - With?
#1828 [18:04] <MinecraftDad> yes
#1829 [18:05] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Then do the last part of those instructions from VoxelHead about pastebin. Where it says: "and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted."
#1830 [18:05] <MinecraftDad> ok
#1831 [18:05] <DaBeastAustin> i need to know if i buy minecraft if i can change my username cause right now it is my email
#1832 [18:05] <DiskDaemon> DaBeastAustin: No, the username cannot be changed. You need to purchase another account for another username
#1833 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> DaBeastAustin - Yes, when you purchase minecraft, you'll get the prompt to create a minecraft profile and username
#1834 [18:05] <MinecraftDad> where is it
#1835 [18:05] <Lutzee> DaBeastAustin: after you purchase the game you get to choose 1 username which is unchangeable
#1836 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Once you create a minecraft profile/username, you can't change it
#1837 [18:06] <NG0R> When I launch in the Mac brewers it crashes
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#1839 [18:06] <DaBeastAustin> ik that i have jusst created a mojang account thats all so if i buy throough paypal i will be sent a link on my email to change it?
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#1841 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> DaBeastAustin - Yes.
#1842 [18:06] <DiskDaemon> To clarify, your email is not your username. The peofile name is your username, but the launcher still asks for a username when it is your email address that you use to login with. Even though yuo login with your email address, is is your profile name/username that will be seen by people on servers
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#1845 [18:07] <DaBeastAustin> ok do i need to tell it to or just buy the game and look at my email?
#1846 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Once you purchase minecraft, you'll get an email with a link to create your minecraft proflie/username, or you can log into your mojang.com account to create your minecraft profile.
#1847 [18:07] <DiskDaemon> DaBeastAustin: After your account has been purchased, you will then setup your username. You can only do that after the account has been paid for.
#1848 [18:07] <NG0R> mac 10.8.2, Java 1.7.0_13... looks like it fails on the openGL stuff, which i believe is a false error, it is actually a security error. (I worked around it in the download version)
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#1850 [18:08] <MinecraftDad> its minecraft for disk.com disk
#1851 [18:08] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Where is what?
#1852 [18:08] <DiskDaemon> pardon?
#1853 [18:08] <MinecraftDad> the url i can send to u
#1854 [18:08] <DaBeastAustin> ok
#1855 [18:08] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Can you please explain further? I fail to understand what you're getting at
#1856 [18:09] <DaBeastAustin> tthanks alot i have been looking for an hour and 30
#1857 [18:09] <MinecraftDad> ok the url how do i located ok
#1858 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> MinecraftDad - How did you get to www.pastebin.com?
#1859 [18:09] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: That would be the web page that contains the text taht you pastebined to pastebin
#1860 [18:10] <DiskDaemon> ... pasted to pastebin
#1861 [18:10] <DaBeastAustin> so i confirm the email thing for a mojang account
#1862 [18:10] <MinecraftDad> i did i clicked on it and pasted it and hit sumit
#1863 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> MinecraftDad - So when you look at your browser's address bar, what does it say?
#1864 [18:11] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Good, and now you need to tell us the URL of that page that has the text
#1865 [18:12] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: We can see what you pasted to pastebin, only if you tell us where to go so that we can see it
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#1867 [18:14] <MinecraftDad> ok minecraft for disk - Pastebin.com http://pastebin.com/ceZbPf7B
#1868 [18:14] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Do you see the file path to a file, in your report?
#1869 [18:14] <MinecraftDad> YA
#1870 [18:15] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Your report says: "and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted."
#1871 [18:15] <DiskDaemon> No it doesn't
#1872 [18:15] <DiskDaemon> It says: "Please show that file to Mojang, NOT just this screen!"
#1873 [18:15] <NG0R> so there is some variation between locally installed and browser; For both the Mac & Linux.. local runs fine single player, and LAN multiplayer but gets Failed Login against the internet. Running in the browser I get two different failures... on the Mac it crash with an OpenGL error and on the linux machines it sits on a whitescreen after the applet starts but it appears to go no-whwere
#1874 [18:15] <MinecraftDad> NO IT DONT
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#1876 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Do go and get the contents of that file that your report tells you about, put the contents of that text file up to pastebin, and let us know where to see that new pastebin report
#1877 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: The fiel located at C:\Users\Zion\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2013-02-05_17.45.28-client.txt
#1878 [18:16] <MinecraftDad> YA OK WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW
#1879 [18:17] <DiskDaemon> MinecraftDad: Go and get the contents of that file that your report tells you about, put the contents of that text file up to pastebin, and let us know where to see that new pastebin report
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#1882 [18:18] <NG0R> why does the download method throw a "login failed" error? is that no longer a supported install mode?
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#1884 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> It throws a login failed error because of any of these reasons; username is incorrect, password is incorrect, email is not verified, minecraft profile/username is not created.
#1885 [18:24] <NG0R> well... the user name is the email address, it is validated, and the userID/Pw login fine via the web page
#1886 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a premium account?
#1887 [18:25] <NG0R> not yet, not until I can actually get it working
#1888 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Then you will not be able to use the downloadable launcher
#1889 [18:26] <DiskDaemon> NG0R: That's the problem then. The game launcher only allows paid accounts to login to it
#1890 [18:26] <DiskDaemon> NG0R: IF you want to play the game demo, that's freely available at minecraft.net/demo
#1891 [18:27] <NG0R> well, then the other problem is the demo in brewer launches and crashes on a mac, and launches and goes no-where (white applet screen) on Ubnutu 12.04
#1892 [18:27] <NG0R> let me try the /demo url and see what happens
#1893 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> The performance on the demo is indicative of how minecraft will run if you should choose to buy it
#1894 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> And on ubuntu, the lwjgl files will most likely need to be updated. minecraft run fine on ubuntu
#1895 [18:28] <DiskDaemon> NG0R: The demo and the game relies on several things on the computer being correctly set up. If there are any issues, an error report can help to determine what on the computer needs to be fixed up
#1896 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> On macs, I don't know. Does Apple still force users to update to java 7 (which has a known incompatibility with lwjgl), as well as disabling the java preferences control panel so the user cannot willingly downgrade to java 6?
#1897 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> I believe that error/jawt provides info for mac users to help deal with that
#1898 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> If so, you're out of luck until Apple decides to let java work again
#1899 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> ?? error/jawt
#1900 [18:29] <VoxelHead> error/jawt: If you're getting a Java crash referencing a JAWT interface exception, it may be an issue with one of the libraries Minecraft uses. http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php?topic=4326.0 has a lot of analysis of this problem. A similar thread which indicates a fix may be available soon can be seen here: http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,4711.120.html
#1901 [18:30] <NG0R> this is so lame
#1902 [18:30] <NG0R> two different tests...
#1903 [18:31] <NG0R> same result using /play or /demo... On the Mac the applet crashes on the openGL issues. On two different Ubuntu 12.04 systems the MC applet launches, turns white and sits there doing nothing forever.
#1904 [18:32] <DiskDaemon> NG0R: For the linux machine, this will help people to advise you about a solution http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Linux
#1905 [18:32] <NG0R> so far the only thing that works is downloaded jar file, run in single user (login does not matter for that) or multiuser against a local server on my pan.
#1906 [18:33] <NG0R> k.. .let me look at that link.. back in a couple of minutes after I digest it.
#1907 [18:33] <DiskDaemon> NG0R: There's a potential solution for the mac stuff at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/649868-guide-mac-support-101/#bin
#1908 [18:33] <Guest41788> hello
#1909 [18:34] <Guest41788> Is it possible to disable that a villager levels up after i traded with him?
#1910 [18:34] <Guest41788> (i mean with the help of the nbtexplorer)
#1911 [18:34] <DiskDaemon> NG0R: Specifically, the info about updating the graphics library stuff for the mac at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#1912 [18:35] <DiskDaemon> Guest41788: No - the purpose of that is to make it more difficult to abuse them. They do finish leveling up though after so many times
#1913 [18:35] <Guest41788> But I just need it for creating an adventure map.
#1914 [18:35] <DiskDaemon> Guest41788: See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Trading for details
#1915 [18:35] <NG0R> let me look, I think that I dealt with the openGL think earlier... the answer was to change the Privacy/Security setting and then it would run the OpenGL update if I was using the launcher version
#1916 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> Guest41788: Sorry, that capability currently doesn't exist
#1917 [18:36] <Guest41788> okay, ty
#1918 [18:36] <NG0R> it took an hour to figure out it and then launcher worked except for that Login Failed issue. :-(
#1919 [18:37] <DiskDaemon> and the login failure is just due to not using a paid account
#1920 [18:38] <Guest41788> just to explain. i created a villager with the profession 5 (green villager) and defined with the help of the nbtexplorer in the region-files, what he sells etc. and if i trade with him he levels up one more time and then he is "finished". and this last level up i wanted to deactivate. but nvm....if it isn't possible i have to deal with it. ^^
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#1925 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> Ooh, see developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time_Tracker
#1926 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> It's xmas 2007 when EP3 was announced
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#1930 [18:59] <NG0R> I am still poking around on the mac issue, one more thing to try and then I will give up for tonight
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#1936 [19:09] <NG0R> dinner bell is ringing, maybe I will try back again later. The mac appears to be a lost cause for Internet play. I will focus on the Linux machines later or change to the LAN server. tnx
#1937 [19:11] <jdp2040> trying to run Minecraft on Ubuntu 12.04. Launching minecraft.jar with Oracle Java 6, and trying the Demo Mode. But it gets stuck on a "updating minecraft, done downloading" screen. never changes from there. Thoughts?
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#1942 [19:17] <Drew1701> when i turn to survival i cant break
#1943 [19:18] <cestislife> Are you sure you're not in adventure mode instead?
#1944 [19:18] <jdp2040> Anyone familiar with linux/Ubuntu issues?
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#1946 [19:19] <Drew1701> i dont even know how to get adventure mode but is survival gamemode 02
#1947 [19:19] <cestislife> Drew1701, then you are in adventure mode
#1948 [19:19] <cestislife> do /gamemode s
#1949 [19:19] <Drew1701> oooh whats that
#1950 [19:19] <cestislife> 0 = Survival, 1 = Creative, 2 = Adventure
#1951 [19:19] <cestislife> s = survivial
#1952 [19:19] <Lutzee> ??> jdp2040 java/lwjgl
#1953 [19:19] * Lutzee glares at vox
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#1954 [19:19] <Lutzee> ??> jdp2040 java/lwjgl
#1955 [19:19] <VoxelHead> jdp2040: (java/lwjgl) See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL for a guide on manually updating to a new version of LWJGL.
#1956 [19:20] <Lutzee> Do that
#1957 [19:20] <jdp2040> Thanks Lutzee I'll give it a shot.
#1958 [19:20] <Andeh> How can I set up minecraft to keep all the data in a specific folder? I've got my OS on an SSD with limited space and an internal HDD for storage and installs.
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#1960 [19:20] <Lutzee> Andeh: symlink
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#1964 [19:21] <chad> i purchased minecraft and it will not let me play
#1965 [19:21] <Drew1701> it sais that gamemode 05 is to high
#1966 [19:21] <cestislife> Drew1701, /gamemode 0
#1967 [19:22] <chad> what
#1968 [19:22] <cestislife> That was an "S" not "5"
#1969 [19:22] <Drew1701> ok and HOW DO YOU GET MODS
#1970 [19:22] <cestislife> ?? mods
#1971 [19:22] <Andeh> oh man, looking that up changed so much for how i use my computer daily
#1972 [19:22] <Andeh> thanks a ton man
#1973 [19:22] * cestislife glares at vixel
#1973 [19:22] <cestislife> ??> Drew1701 mods
#1974 [19:22] <VoxelHead> Drew1701: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1975 [19:22] <VoxelHead> Drew1701: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1976 [19:22] <chad> someone help it says i payed for minecraft on my bank account. You have my money how do I play
#1977 [19:23] * Disori|off is now known as Disori
#1978 [19:23] <cestislife> chad, made a mojang account?
#1979 [19:24] <chad> well i have a minecraft thing on my computer screen and i double click it or whatever and put in my name and passwrod but it says "play offline?" or "try again"
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#1981 [19:24] <cestislife> chad, did it say anything else? like "Cannot connect to minecraft.net" or?
#1982 [19:25] <Drew1701> thanks
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#1984 [19:26] <chad> yes but it lets me play offline on creative mode and that stuff but i go to minecraft.net and type in my name and password and i payed for it on minecraft.net. But when i get on today it says i didnt buy it
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#1986 [19:27] <Daniel123> My Friend's fps is really low when playing minecraft he has 6g ram intel i7 2.67ghz nvidia 660 ti 2g
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#1988 [19:28] <cestislife> chad, are you sure you've logged into the correct account?
#1989 [19:28] <cestislife> Daniel123, mind posting his DxDiag report?
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#1992 [19:28] <steven> hey
#1993 [19:28] <Daniel123> hello
#1994 [19:29] <steven> i have a question
#1995 [19:29] <Daniel123> yes
#1996 [19:29] <Lutzee> Daniel123: make sure he has the latest nvidia graphics drivers
#1997 [19:29] <Daniel123> he does
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#1999 [19:29] <steven> i try to buy it but it keeps saying that the card is blocked
#2000 [19:29] <steven> for 24 hours
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#2005 [19:32] <Drew1701> how do you quick place like into a chest or something
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#2008 [19:32] <NinjaKirby> Shift+Click Item? That kind of quick place, I presume :)
#2009 [19:32] <cestislife> Dragonene, from your inventory to a chest? Shift click on the item.
#2010 [19:32] <cestislife> oh sh
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#2012 [19:32] <NinjaKirby> Oh shieeee-
#2013 [19:32] <cestislife> Sorry :(
#2014 [19:32] <minorxxx> Hello, i am in need of assisstance
#2015 [19:32] * NinjaKirby hi-five cestislife
#2015 [19:33] * cestislife hopes he doesn't kill me
#2015 [19:33] <cestislife> ??> minorxxx ask
#2016 [19:33] <VoxelHead> minorxxx: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2017 [19:33] <VoxelHead> minorxxx: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2018 [19:33] <Drew1701> any sugestions
#2019 [19:33] <cestislife> Drew1701, shift click.
#2020 [19:33] <Drew1701> ok yay
#2021 [19:33] <minorxxx> for the past couple months i have been unable to play...
#2022 [19:34] <minorxxx> my game freezes after the Mojang logo dissapears
#2023 [19:34] <cestislife> That is not very specific, minorxxx
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#2025 [19:34] <cestislife> That means it has crashed.
#2026 [19:34] <Drew1701> no that doesnt work
#2027 [19:34] <cestislife> minorxxx, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#2029 [19:35] <cestislife> You have to shift click from your inventory to the container, in this case, the chest, Drew1701
#2030 [19:35] <minorxxx> so, if i play online, do i have this .exe on my vcomputer??
#2031 [19:35] <Drew1701> whats shift click
#2032 [19:36] <cestislife> Drew1701, Press and hold the shift key, then left click on the item.
#2033 [19:36] <cestislife> minorxxx, I do not understand.
#2034 [19:36] <Drew1701> ok i will try it
#2035 [19:37] <Drew1701> thanks so much
#2036 [19:37] <minorxxx> I play online.. there is nothing i have downloaded.. i go to the webpage and play, but latley (like couple months) the game freezes at the Mojang logo .. i dont have an .exe file
#2037 [19:38] <cestislife> minorxxx, would be better to use the launcher instead.
#2038 [19:38] <cestislife> I assume you're on windows?
#2039 [19:38] <minorxxx> windows ya
#2040 [19:38] <cestislife> ??> minorxxx win/client
#2041 [19:38] <VoxelHead> minorxxx: (win/client) https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#2042 [19:38] <minorxxx> ... it forze.. we tried before joining chat.. wont even let me do that
#2043 [19:38] <minorxxx> windows vista
#2044 [19:39] <cestislife> Then please try to get a crash report like I asked earlier - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2045 [19:39] <cestislife> Without that, I do not know where or what to diagnose.
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#2048 [19:40] <minorxxx> thanks.. ill try your options
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#2051 [19:44] <Michael> well, my minecraft browser will open but then it freezes... kind of. It recognizes when I drag my mouse over the minumize, maxumize and close button, however, none of them work. I had Minecraft for a long time on WIndows 7 and never had a problem with it. Could this be a problem with Windows 8?
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#2054 [19:45] <cestislife> Michael, updated your drivers and such?
#2055 [19:46] <Michael> Yeah, I just installed it and I double checked to make sure everything installed correctly and everything was green. Also, it won't work "In Browser" either.
#2056 [19:47] <cestislife> How about Java?
#2057 [19:47] <Michael> Yup, I've got the latest version.
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#2060 [19:48] * cestislife ponders for a while as he screams at Windows8.
#2060 [19:48] <cestislife> Hold on Michael.
#2061 [19:48] <Michael> Haha, exactly how I feel!
#2062 [19:49] <cestislife> Michael, mind if I have a DxDiag report?
#2063 [19:50] <Michael> Ooh, I honestly have no idea how to give one of those.
#2064 [19:50] <cestislife> No worries, a bot will tell you how
#2065 [19:50] <cestislife> ??> Michael win/dxdiag
#2066 [19:50] <VoxelHead> Michael: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2067 [19:50] <VoxelHead> Michael: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
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#2071 [19:52] <Michael> Alright, working on it.
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#2073 [19:56] <Michael> http://pastebin.com/bVswvuZa Here you go.
#2074 [19:57] <cestislife> Michael, thanks, I'll look into it.
#2075 [19:57] <Michael> Alright, thank you.
#2076 [19:59] <cestislife> Michael, your graphics drivers are outdated.
#2077 [19:59] <cestislife> Try this http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22375&lang=eng
#2078 [19:59] <cestislife> You have 9.17.10.2867 as opposed to 9.17.10.2932
#2079 [19:59] <Michael> What? Alright, I'll give it a try.
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#2082 [20:01] <Michael> If I need version 9 then version 15.28.12.64.2932 should work also, correct?
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#2084 [20:02] <cestislife> Michael, see the version number in the brackets
#2085 [20:02] <cestislife> 15.28.12.64.2932 (9.17.10.2932)
#2086 [20:03] <Michael> Ok, I missed that. It's downloading though.
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#2092 [20:17] <mralext20> help i need to know were the drive for the graphics is stored at
#2093 [20:17] <mralext20> erroe message http://pastebin.com/bf4Vcpcm
#2094 [20:17] <VoxelHead> mralext20: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2095 [20:17] <VoxelHead> mralext20: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#2096 [20:24] <mralext20> http://pastebin.com/b407YkNw
#2097 [20:25] <cestislife> ??> mralext20 gpu/nvidia
#2098 [20:25] <VoxelHead> mralext20: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
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#2100 [20:26] <Wug> mralext20: yeah, your graphics drivers are not installed
#2101 [20:26] <Wug> like at all
#2102 [20:26] <cestislife> It's like
#2103 [20:26] <cestislife> a shell
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#2105 [20:27] <Wug> pcidatabase says its a NVidia NVS 4200m
#2106 [20:27] <FluffnStuff> My minecraft won't run because it says I need Java. But I already have Java?
#2107 [20:28] <cestislife> FluffnStuff, what is your OS?
#2108 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> You can install the 64-bit version of Java from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#2109 [20:28] <FluffnStuff> Windows 7
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#2111 [20:28] <cestislife> ^
#2112 [20:28] <FluffnStuff> I did install the 64 bit
#2113 [20:28] <FluffnStuff> It just keeps saying I need 1.5.0
#2114 [20:29] <DiskDaemon> 1.5? But Java is up to 1.7 now
#2115 [20:29] <Wug> FluffnStuff: if you open the control panel, does it list java 7 as being installed?
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#2117 [20:29] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft does not work with Java 1.5 now
#2118 [20:29] <cestislife> or easier
#2119 [20:29] <FluffnStuff> Lemme check
#2120 [20:29] <cestislife> DiskDaemon, it still does.
#2121 [20:29] <Wug> FluffnStuff: or perhaps java 6
#2122 [20:29] <cestislife> Not 1.6 onwards.
#2123 [20:29] <cestislife> Uh
#2124 [20:29] <cestislife> It will only not work with MC 1.6 onwards.
#2125 [20:29] <DiskDaemon> FluffnStuff: Which minecraft are you trying to play?
#2126 [20:30] <cestislife> By that he meant, are you launching it from the browser or using its standalone launcher..
#2127 [20:30] <FluffnStuff> Im trying to run the newest version of MC
#2128 [20:30] <FluffnStuff> And using the launcher
#2129 [20:30] <cestislife> Can you open up command prompt?
#2130 [20:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> FluffnStuff: any mods at all?
#2131 [20:30] <FluffnStuff> Yeah 1 second
#2132 [20:30] <FluffnStuff> No mods
#2133 [20:30] <cestislife> type in java -version
#2134 [20:32] <FluffnStuff> I dunno what to do <.> Thank for the help but looks like my PC is a bitch
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#2136 [20:32] <cestislife> Uh.
#2137 [20:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> o.o
#2138 [20:32] <cestislife> wat.
#2139 [20:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> ABANDON SHIP
#2140 [20:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> *tableflip*
#2141 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> Others have had this 1.5.0 issue, and it's either due to using the classic version of minecraft, or from obtaining minecraft from illegal sources http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1427809-this-application-requires-a-java-runtime-environment-150/
#2142 [20:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> DiskDaemon: too late :P
#2143 [20:33] <Wug> it could just be broken java
#2144 [20:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> i wish the spotify servers weren't utter shite
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#2146 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> I would like to find out more though about how this strange java issue can affect the normal version of Minecraft
#2147 [20:33] <mattym> yeah when he said it was the latest MC i thought there way no way it asked for 1.5.0
#2148 [20:34] <mattym> there was no way*
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#2150 [20:34] <Oscar> Oscar
#2151 [20:34] <Wug> Wug
#2152 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> There are a couple of recent existing bugs that have that 1.5.0 issue, both unresolved as of yet. https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-5384 and https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-8871
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#2154 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> Oh hang on, that first one was resolved by reinstalling Java 7
#2155 [20:36] <Wug> yeah
#2156 [20:36] <Wug> I very much doubt they are real issues
#2157 [20:36] <Wug> judging by how often java likes to break
#2158 [20:37] <cestislife> java is coffee
#2159 [20:37] <cestislife> mmmm
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#2161 [20:38] <Lutzee> If there is no java installed then trying to run the exe will through up the 1.5.0 message
#2162 [20:39] <Wug> it either does that or says nothing at all
#2163 [20:39] <Wug> nothing at all usually indicates that java is installed but broken
#2164 [20:39] <Wug> purge and reinstall typically fixes
#2165 [20:41] <Lutzee> Heres the forgotten debugging message right in main () in the launcher.. http://puu.sh/1Y7IW
#2166 [20:41] <Wug> lol
#2167 [20:41] <Wug> the asdf
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#2170 [20:43] <Lutzee> Yes main is being called, i sure hope it is
#2171 [20:43] <raf1234> I accidenty deleated my minecraft folder from my mac and minecraft froze
#2172 [20:44] <raf1234> HELP ME
#2173 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> raf: Close it, and download what you need again from minecraft.net/download
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#2175 [20:44] <Wug> raf1234: the minecraft folder contains all of your worlds
#2176 [20:44] <Wug> so I hope you didnt want to keep them
#2177 [20:44] <raf1234> it wont download
#2178 [20:44] <raf1234> no i just started yesterday
#2179 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> Unless you can undelete or restore from a backup, your worlds will be done due to your deleting them
#2180 [20:44] <Wug> raf1234: perform a force update?
#2181 [20:45] <raf1234> I tried downloading it again and its a zip file
#2182 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> ?? mac/reinst
#2183 [20:45] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2184 [20:45] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2185 [20:47] <raf1234> It wont work
#2186 [20:47] <raf1234> Its still a zip file
#2187 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> Anyone here capable of guiding someone by the hand through installation on a mac?
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#2191 [20:53] <drew> i keep going in to multi player and it takes for ever to load it hasnt loded ever
#2192 [20:53] <DiskDaemon> ??> drew smp/servers
#2193 [20:53] <VoxelHead> drew: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2194 [20:53] <VoxelHead> drew: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#2195 [20:54] <cestislife> Keep in mind the launcher only searches for LAN worlds. Not online worlds.
#2196 [20:54] <Wug> wrong factoid maybe?
#2197 [20:54] * cestislife shrugs
#2197 [20:54] <Wug> drew: how far does the loading get
#2198 [20:54] <cestislife> But people think the launcher will list online servers as well
#2199 [20:54] <DiskDaemon> drew: If you want to connect to any servers, you will need to manually add the servers that you want to connect to, in to the multiplayer list of the game
#2200 [20:55] <Wug> do you get to the game screen missing some things? or does it just stop at "connecting to server" or "logging in"?
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#2202 [20:55] <cestislife> Wug, I think he meant the "Searching for LAN worlds" thing.
#2203 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> Wug: I suspect that drew believes that the game will automatically populate itself with a list of servers that you can connect to. That is not the case.
#2204 [20:55] <drew_> can someone reanswer my guestion
#2205 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> drew: We all have been
#2206 [20:55] <drew_> sorry my computer just crashed
#2207 [20:56] <Wug> cestislife: aha. that would explain my confusion.
#2208 [20:56] <DiskDaemon> drew_: Your expectations of what "should happen" for the multiplayer part of the game, differs from what really happens
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#2210 [20:56] <drew_> ok what really happens. i thought it just poped up as servers that i can play on
#2211 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> drew_: The multiplayer list does not automatically create itself. You need to add servers that you want to connect to. Several servers won't be online either
#2212 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> ??> drew_ smp/servers
#2213 [20:57] <VoxelHead> drew_: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2214 [20:57] <VoxelHead> drew_: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#2215 [20:57] <Wug> drew_: yeah, you have to add specific servers to it. its not like some games that keep a list of all servers for you to pick one. all minecraft servers are private.
#2216 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> drew_: None of the public servers are run by Mojang. They are all run by entheusist members of the public, so their being up or not can be variable
#2217 [20:57] <Wug> some of them are open, but there is no central list.
#2218 [20:58] <drew_> oh ok so i just go to one of the hyperlinks and i can get some
#2219 [20:58] * cestislife goes to update his drivers
#2219 [20:59] <DiskDaemon> drew_: This may be useful for you to read - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_list
#2220 [20:59] <drew_> ok thanks evryone for helping bye
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#2222 [21:00] <mattym> minecraft really needs an official manual, so we cant tell people RTFM
#2223 [21:00] <DiskDaemon> It can take some time for people to switch over from their expectations, to realisation, to understanding
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#2226 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> Currently the wiki is the best form of manual to hand. The Farlanders have an excellent manual, but it's one that you have to pay for before reading.
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#2229 [21:16] <JaguarLynx> Hello, anyone here/
#2230 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> always
#2231 [21:16] <JaguarLynx> Would you by chance no if Minecraft in general is having issues?
#2232 [21:16] <JaguarLynx> Know* sorry
#2233 [21:16] <cestislife> Urhm.
#2234 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> yes I would, and no it isn't
#2235 [21:17] <JaguarLynx> That's for some reason I am having major issues
#2236 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> What issue are you having?
#2237 [21:18] <JaguarLynx> Major lag. Sorry for bothering though as I believe there is nothing anyone else can do for the matter. Just the same I tilt my hat to you all :) Many a thanks I give.
#2238 [21:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> <_>
#2239 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> You can resolve lag issues by improving the networking connection between you and the server that you're connecting to
#2240 [21:19] <cestislife> uhm
#2241 [21:19] <JaguarLynx> Thanks sir. For now I'm off best of luck to all.
#2242 [21:19] <cestislife> Lag can refer to two things, fps lag, which I assume that's what you're refering to and server lag.
#2243 [21:20] <JaguarLynx> Nope. I mean server lags.
#2244 [21:20] <cestislife> mkay.
#2245 [21:20] <DiskDaemon> Someone who knows what he's talking about - it's a pleasure to meet you sir :)
#2246 [21:21] <JaguarLynx> :) The same to you and always a pleasure chatting. Blessing be with you and yours.
#2247 [21:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> o.o
#2248 [21:21] * cestislife places a hat on WhereIsMySpoon
#2248 [21:22] * WhereIsMySpoon east it
#2248 [21:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> eats*
#2249 [21:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> nmo
#2250 [21:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> fuck
#2251 [21:22] * AuBot kicked WhereIsMySpoon from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hereIsMySpoon :Please keep it civil.)
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#2253 [21:22] <DiskDaemon> Meanwhile, all of my pdf files have gone missing from my ipad after the recent iOS update. Time to get some panic on
#2254 [21:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> T_T
#2255 [21:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> yea well fsck you aubot
#2256 [21:23] <JaguarLynx> WhereIsMySpoon swearing is never appropriate bud.
#2257 [21:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> swearing is always anproprirator
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#2260 [21:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> JaguarLynx: do you wear an alligator on your head every once in a while?
#2261 [21:24] <JaguarLynx> Uhm... I will not even get started on that subject... I know the answer to it anyhow. Just the same good luck to you.
#2262 [21:24] <DiskDaemon> WhereIsMySpoon: Due to the highly public nature of this channel and its audience, we try to keep it civil around here
#2263 [21:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> DiskDaemon: i know
#2264 [21:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> DiskDaemon: im voiced here :P
#2265 [21:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> i temporarily forgot
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#2267 [21:25] <JaguarLynx> Well ciao all. ^_^
#2268 [21:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> o/
#2269 [21:27] <DiskDaemon> meanwhile, pdf's are syncing back to the ipad. Things are spinning back under control once again
#2270 [21:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> DiskDaemon: lies >:C
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#2273 [21:32] <yrjrhgfnythfn> i never was able to make a minecraft username after reedeming a minecraft prepaid card. i can log into both the mojang and minecraft websites, but cant migrate the accounts or log on to the minecraft game .
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#2275 [21:33] <jdr> I have Win8 and I am getting the OpenGL error. I have updated my video drivers. Any other options?
#2276 [21:33] <mattym> On the mojang site is there a green button on your account page?
#2277 [21:33] <yrjrhgfnythfn> no.
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#2279 [21:33] <cestislife> ??> jdr win/dxdiag
#2280 [21:33] <VoxelHead> jdr: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2281 [21:33] <VoxelHead> jdr: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
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#2283 [21:34] <mattym> yrjrhgfnythfn: This is an issue you will need to write to mojan support about
#2284 [21:34] <yrjrhgfnythfn> it just asks to migrate accounts and redeem card(which iv e already done)
#2285 [21:34] <cestislife> yrjrhgfnythfn, go to http://accounts.mojang.com/me
#2286 [21:34] <cestislife> What do you see under the My Games section.
#2287 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> yrjrhgfnythfn: This is the page that Mojang has with information for you about prepaid card errors, and what you can do http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/770611-prepaid-card-errors
#2288 [21:35] <jdr> http://pastebin.com/Rdy3ADC4
#2289 [21:35] <yrjrhgfnythfn> there is nothing. and i have read all of the troubleshooting articles.
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#2291 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> yrjrhgfnythfn: It seems that you are failing to read that page
#2292 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> yrjrhgfnythfn: There is a section of that page which goes: "If you have a question that was not answered above, ..."
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#2294 [21:36] <cestislife> jdr, install this
#2295 [21:36] <cestislife> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18223&lang=eng
#2296 [21:38] <cestislife> jdr, if for some reason it does not let you install it, refer here - http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-022355.htm
#2297 [21:38] <yrjrhgfnythfn> yes thank you. i was hoping to avoid the support because they are a month behind on emails. but thatnk youu <DiskDaemon>
#2298 [21:38] <cestislife> And skip to the workaround page.
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#2300 [21:38] <jdr> That worked - thank you!
#2301 [21:39] <cestislife> Cheers
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#2306 [21:45] <michael> I am trying to install mods how do I do that without a minecraft folder to install them in
#2307 [21:45] <zkxs> Why don't you have a minecraft folder?
#2308 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> michael: Instructions are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
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#2310 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> michael: We don't deal with mods here
#2311 [21:46] <michael> everytime i try to install the game it just launches the game and wont install
#2312 [21:46] <michael> I need to know how to install the game
#2313 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> ??> michael win/reinst
#2314 [21:46] <VoxelHead> michael: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
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#2316 [21:46] <VoxelHead> michael: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2319 [21:48] <michael> thank you
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#2322 [22:01] <vasko> please help i can not open mincraft on my iMac
#2323 [22:02] <vasko> I just downloaded the game and the game is crashing
#2324 [22:02] <mattym> ??> vasko mac/gatekeeper
#2325 [22:02] <VoxelHead> vasko: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#2326 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> vasko: Is there any report about why it's crashing?
#2327 [22:03] <vasko> no
#2328 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> vasko: here's how to get a crash report http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Mac_OSX
#2329 [22:04] <mattym> if its not opening at all follow the instructions above
#2330 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> mattym: Normally we get information about what the problem is first, before providing advice on how to deal with the particular issue that is at hand
#2331 [22:05] <mattym> when i replied he said it wouldnt open, and he was on a mac
#2332 [22:05] <mattym> that was enough info to recommend the gatekeeper fix
#2333 [22:06] <DiskDaemon> mattym: The gatekeeper issue always results in a clear error message, that the person would see and can give to us
#2334 [22:08] <DiskDaemon> The main reasonf or getting info first, is that is saves a lot of time, and reduces a large amount of potential confusion
#2335 [22:10] <vasko> I am ten years old and trying very hard to open the game that I just bought
#2336 [22:12] <mattym> DiskDaemon: Mac, JUST bought, wont open, its probably the Gatekeeper issue
#2337 [22:12] <DiskDaemon> vasko: The game needs some other parts of the computer's software to be correctly set up. If you don't think you have the technical skills necessary to achieve that, a refund option is available for you
#2338 [22:12] <DiskDaemon> vasko: Do you get any error messages? If not, it's not a gatekeeper issue, so ignore him.
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#2340 [22:12] <DiskDaemon> vasko: If there are no error messages, an error log can be obtained from whcih we can figure out what is causing your problem
#2341 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> vasko: Follow the instructions at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Mac_OSX to get an error log
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#2343 [22:14] <DiskDaemon> mattym: The amc has much more than just gatekeeper issues to deal with now. See http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/649868-guide-mac-support-101/
#2344 [22:15] <vasko> How do i get a refund
#2345 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> ??> vasko refund
#2346 [22:15] <VoxelHead> vasko: (refund) This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#2347 [22:15] <mattym> DiskDaemon: But from how he desctibed it, it didnt seem like the other issues
#2348 [22:16] <DiskDaemon> mattym: This is why obtaining information first is a highly valuable course of action to take
#2349 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> mattym: We can of course have vasko attempt to perform that gatekeeper fix, if you think that he will find some benefit in doing so. What do you think?
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#2351 [22:18] <mattym> I think its better to try it than just go for a refund
#2352 [22:21] <mattym> vasko: Have you tried to run the game by control-clicking it
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#2354 [22:22] <marvin> i need help with loading my minecraft server
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#2357 [22:23] <mattym> marvin: What is the problem you are having
#2358 [22:23] <marvin> how do i fix the opengl thing
#2359 [22:24] <vasko> Thank you very much for your help
#2360 [22:24] <mattym> did it work out?
#2361 [22:25] <loginFailed> I'm having a problem logging in from my minecraft launcher, although I can log in using my username and password on the Mojang site. Anyone have a suggestion on where I could start?
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#2363 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> loginFailed: It is not the username that you use for logging in - it is your email address
#2364 [22:25] <mattym> marvin: if its crashing, link us a pastebin of the crash log
#2365 [22:26] <marvin> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 2/5/13 7:25 PM - Minecraft Version: 1.3.2 - Operating System: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 - Java Version: 1.7.0_10, Oracle Corporation - Java VM Ver
#2366 [22:26] <loginFailed> I'm using my e-mail address to log in. I don't yet have a username
#2367 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> marvin: Not here!
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#2369 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> ??> marvin pastebin
#2370 [22:26] <VoxelHead> marvin: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2371 [22:27] <DiskDaemon> marvin: With that video card drivers issue that you are having, we can help you to trace down more recent drivers for you
#2372 [22:27] <DiskDaemon> ??> marvin win/dxdiag
#2373 [22:27] <VoxelHead> marvin: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2374 [22:27] <VoxelHead> marvin: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#2375 [22:28] <mattym> loginFailed: If you dont have a username you cant login to minecraft
#2376 [22:28] <marvin> pastebin.com/eWPYaEYr
#2377 [22:28] <mattym> you need to create a username through your mojang account
#2378 [22:29] <loginFailed> Thanks mattym, I will give that a try
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#2380 [22:29] <cestislife> marvin, we need the dxdiag report as well.
#2381 [22:29] <cestislife> oh wait
#2382 [22:29] <cestislife> nevermind.
#2383 [22:29] <cestislife> :/
#2384 [22:30] <mattym> did he say server an not mean it, since when does the server require video drivers?
#2385 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> the server doesn't
#2386 [22:31] <mattym> well then he shouldnt have said he was having a server problem
#2387 [22:31] <Gone_Ralex> he had mods too
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#2390 [22:34] <loginFailed> mattym, I am logged into my Mojang account settings page, although there is no prompt to create a username
#2391 [22:35] <John_> Hi i just bought minecraft and every thime i go to launch it their is a black screen then it says their is an error bad video card and i cant fix it i need some help on this...
#2392 [22:35] <DiskDaemon> loginFailed: Have you paid for your account?
#2393 [22:35] <mattym> loginFailed: go to this page https://account.mojang.com/me
#2394 [22:35] <John_> Yes
#2395 [22:35] <John_> Used a prepaid card
#2396 [22:35] <mattym> and tell me what options you have
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#2399 [22:36] <loginFailed> I have not. I would like to try it before buying it. Is that possible?
#2400 [22:36] <DiskDaemon> loginFailed: Go to minecraft.net/demo to try it out
#2401 [22:36] <mattym> demo version on the minecraft site, but thats kinda old and doesnt always work
#2402 [22:36] <John_> well i can download the game then login then i go to play it and then it tells me error something to do with the my graphics card
#2403 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> loginFailed: You get to choose your username only purchasing the game
#2404 [22:37] <loginFailed> Understood, thanks for the help
#2405 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> mattym: The demo works as well as the game
#2406 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> John_: We can help you to find more up to date drivers for your graphics card
#2407 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> ??> John_: win/dxdiag
#2408 [22:38] <VoxelHead> John_:: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2409 [22:38] <VoxelHead> John_:: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#2410 [22:38] <John_> K
#2411 [22:39] <loginFailed> I have purchased Minecraft on the 360 console. Do I have to purchase it separately to play it on my computer?
#2412 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2413 [22:42] <loginFailed> exit
#2414 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> exitFailed
#2415 [22:43] <loginFailed> haha
#2416 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> try /part
#2417 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> try /part
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#2419 [22:43] <mattym> thats the second person today ive seen try to use irc as a terminal
#2420 [22:45] <Gone_Ralex> you mean
#2421 [22:45] <Gone_Ralex> irc is not a terminal .-.?
#2422 [22:45] <John_> Okay i pasted my info to the website you posted now what???
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#2424 [22:45] <cestislife> John_, share the URL here.
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#2426 [22:46] <John_> http://pastebin.com/
#2427 [22:47] <John_> i was told to paste my card specs to here now what
#2428 [22:47] <cestislife> No, the link of your paste.
#2429 [22:47] <John_> Isnt that gonah show all my private info?
#2430 [22:47] <DiskDaemon> John_: no, there is no private info on there that can harm you
#2431 [22:48] <John_> Okay 1 secs
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#2433 [22:48] <John_> http://pastebin.com/wjh54BkA
#2434 [22:48] <John_> Everytime i go to play minecraft i get errors
#2435 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> Your graphics card drivers are 4 years old - more recent ones should be available
#2436 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/amd
#2437 [22:49] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
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#2439 [22:49] <John_> Yes but does it cost money to use this program
#2440 [22:50] <cestislife> ...no
#2441 [22:50] <cestislife> It's a driver update for your video card.
#2442 [22:51] <John_> Okay when i click download another red X errpr pops up saying Download failed HTTP 404??
#2443 [22:51] <DiskDaemon> John_: This seems to be a driver for your system http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystSoftwareSuiteVersion124ReleaseNotes.aspx
#2444 [22:51] <cestislife> ^ Use that link instead
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#2447 [22:53] <John_> Umm Wich one do i download there is a whole list
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#2449 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, those are the release notes
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#2451 [22:54] <John_> Yah i dont know what to do with these notes
#2452 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> John_: Try from this page here http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeonaiw-vista64.aspx
#2453 [22:55] <John_> Do i download the first one or the second one on this page?
#2454 [22:56] <mattym> first
#2455 [22:56] <John_> thx mate
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#2457 [22:57] <mattym> and make sure you restart your machine whenever it asks you to
#2458 [22:57] <John_> K so once i install this updatw I can play minecraft with out the video error poping up?
#2459 [22:57] <John_> Update*
#2460 [22:58] <mattym> it should help, if you still have the issue just ask us for help again
#2461 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> John_: There's no guarantee, but it's the actin to take to resolev the issue that you are currently experiencing
#2462 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> hmm,, I must depart
#2463 [22:58] <John_> Okay thanks
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#2469 [23:14] <MChall> hey guys i need somehelp with my server
#2470 [23:15] <mattym> Whats the problem?
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#2472 [23:15] <MChall> i can connect to it on the main computer but when i try to connect on other computers it wont show up
#2473 [23:15] <mattym> Are you running a server or a Lan Game
#2474 [23:16] <MChall> server
#2475 [23:16] <mattym> whats the address for it
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#2477 [23:17] <MChall> umm
#2478 [23:17] <MChall> crap my IP changed, hold on
#2479 [23:18] <MChall> 192.168.0.19
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#2481 [23:19] <mattym> thats your problem
#2482 [23:19] <mattym> thats an internal IP
#2483 [23:19] <Gone_Ralex> mattym, not entirely
#2484 [23:19] <pucknutt> it says i have a bad video card yet i already have it upgraded. how do i play?
#2485 [23:19] <Gone_Ralex> MChall, all the computers in the same network or are some outside the network?
#2486 [23:19] <MChall> so what do i do?
#2487 [23:19] <MChall> mix of both
#2488 [23:19] <mattym> MChall: if you want others to be able to connect you need to use the external IP
#2489 [23:20] <mattym> And you need to forward your ports
#2490 [23:20] <MChall> i tried to forward the port and it said it was in use
#2491 [23:20] <mattym> ip-adress.com will let you know your external IP
#2492 [23:20] <Gone_Ralex> http://portforward.com has guides for port-forwarding
#2493 [23:20] <Gone_Ralex> just skip the ads asking you to buy
#2494 [23:21] <pucknutt> Why does it say i have a bad video card when i dont? I have tried upgrading but it already is.
#2495 [23:21] <MChall> i use to beable to port forward but now it wont let me
#2496 [23:21] <Gone_Ralex> MChall, "wont let you"?
#2497 [23:21] <MChall> yea like now it says the port is in use
#2498 [23:21] <Gone_Ralex> don't put the ip in the server.properties
#2499 [23:21] <Gone_Ralex> leave that part blank
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#2501 [23:22] <mattym> if the internal IP of your computer has changed, make sure you change it in the port forwarding options of your router, dont make a second entry
#2502 [23:23] <MChall> oh oj
#2503 [23:23] <MChall> now the port is being forwarded
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#2505 [23:23] <mattym> ok, so go to http://ip-adress.com
#2506 [23:23] <mattym> that will tell you your external ip
#2507 [23:24] <MChall> can someone try to connect to my server?
#2508 [23:24] <Gone_Ralex> !check MChall
#2509 [23:24] <mattym> yeah just tell us the ip
#2510 [23:24] <MChall> 69.205.18.187
#2511 [23:24] <Gone_Ralex> wait, how did that work
#2512 [23:24] <Gone_Ralex> !check 69.205.18.187
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#2514 [23:25] <Gone_Ralex> looks like it works
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#2516 [23:25] <SinZ> DiskDaemon: not sure if you are here, but just started memtest, already for 4 fails
#2517 [23:25] <MChall> thanks guys
#2518 [23:25] <BrandonL77> I am trying to help my son, Minecraft keeps crashing
#2519 [23:25] <BrandonL77> Message says Minecraft has crashed
#2520 [23:25] <mattym> SinZ: a few minutes ago he said he was stepping out/away
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#2522 [23:26] <SinZ> damn, missed him by half an hour
#2523 [23:26] <mattym> BrandonL77: Can you provide us with a copy of the crash report via pastebin
#2524 [23:26] <BrandonL77> Can I paste it here?
#2525 [23:27] <mattym> no, please use pastebin
#2526 [23:27] <mattym> ??> BrandonL77 pastebin
#2527 [23:27] <BrandonL77> Sorry, I don't know what that is?
#2528 [23:27] <VoxelHead> BrandonL77: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2529 [23:28] <BrandonL77> http://pastebin.com/fpNnbGpZ
#2530 [23:28] <mattym> thanks, give use a second
#2531 [23:28] <BrandonL77> thanks
#2532 [23:29] <mattym> ok we need a little more info, follwo these instructions
#2533 [23:29] <mattym> ??> BrandonL77 dxdiag
#2534 [23:29] <BrandonL77> OK
#2535 [23:29] <mattym> crap hang on a sec
#2536 [23:30] <mattym> ??> BrandonL77 win/dxdiag
#2537 [23:30] <VoxelHead> BrandonL77: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2538 [23:30] <VoxelHead> BrandonL77: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#2539 [23:30] <loginFailed> I'm having trouble running the demo in my webbrowser. It showed the load screen, although it turned and remained blank afterwards. Any ideas?
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#2541 [23:30] <mattym> loginFailed: Is your java up to date?
#2542 [23:30] <loginFailed> yes
#2543 [23:30] <loginFailed> Java 7
#2544 [23:30] <BrandonL77> OK...I'll try that.
#2545 [23:30] <mattym> Windows 7?
#2546 [23:30] <loginFailed> Ubuntu Linux
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#2549 [23:32] <mattym> you may want to search the forums, i know the demo has issues on a lot of non windows systems
#2550 [23:32] <Gone_Ralex> loginFailed, what gpu do you have?
#2551 [23:32] <Gone_Ralex> do you know?
#2552 [23:32] <loginFailed> Yes
#2553 [23:32] <Gone_Ralex> what kind?
#2554 [23:33] <loginFailed> Intel Mbile 4 Chipset
#2555 [23:33] <loginFailed> *Mobile
#2556 [23:33] <loginFailed> I took a look athe Intel website
#2557 [23:33] <BrandonL77> http://pastebin.com/WwJQwej2
#2558 [23:34] <loginFailed> Thanks for the tip mattym
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#2560 [23:34] <Gone_Ralex> sec
#2561 [23:34] <mattym> BrandonL77: You will need to update your graphics drivers
#2562 [23:34] <Gone_Ralex> linux drivers usually sometimes differs
#2563 [23:34] <BrandonL77> hhhmmm ok
#2564 [23:34] <BrandonL77> tips?
#2565 [23:35] <mattym> Also keep in mind that that computer is a little old to be using Minecraft on
#2566 [23:35] <mattym> yeah just give me a minute to find you a link for more current drivers
#2567 [23:35] <BrandonL77> Thanks!
#2568 [23:36] <mattym> Also does the game work long enough for you to get to the Video/Graphics control options?
#2569 [23:36] <BrandonL77> Yes, sometimes
#2570 [23:37] <Gone_Ralex> loginFailed, you will have to get a linux-version of the intel drivers
#2571 [23:38] <loginFailed> I can search for them
#2572 [23:38] <mattym> BrandonL77: Ok first download and isntall this http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22166&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20%2864-bit%29*&DownloadType=Drivers&OSVersion=Windows%207%20%2864-bit%29*&DownloadType=Drivers
#2573 [23:39] <mattym> This will take some time and you will need to restart your PC at least once, if you need to leave this chat i should still be here when you get back
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#2575 [23:39] <BrandonL77> OK, I'll get that started
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#2578 [23:39] <Gone_Ralex> loginFailed, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" supposidly is the package for it, but not quite sure if it will do anything
#2579 [23:40] <loginFailed> Thanks Gone_Ralex, I will give that a try
#2580 [23:41] <Gone_Ralex> the drivers are opensource and should have been installed by default according to what i see
#2581 [23:41] <BrandonL77> That wouldn't install, said it wasn't validated for this computer
#2582 [23:42] <cestislife> BrandonL77, http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-022355.htm
#2583 [23:42] <cestislife> Skip to workaround section.
#2584 [23:42] <Gone_Ralex> loginFailed, also finding this for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=7946601993e78926cac5e6c279ae72bd&p=11779094&postcount=3
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#2586 [23:44] <gamerz> I forgot my username can anyone help me
#2587 [23:45] <Gone_Ralex> gamerz, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329527-forgot-minecraft-username
#2588 [23:45] <cestislife> dammit
#2589 [23:45] <cestislife> ninjad
#2590 [23:45] <Gone_Ralex> cestislife, sad part, i am playing BL2 at the same time, so i am tabbing out to do this
#2591 [23:45] <cestislife> :(
#2592 [23:45] * cestislife sits in the corner.
#2592 [23:46] <SinZ> Gone_Ralex: I usually rely on factoids for stuff like that, but there arn't much factoids linking straight to mojang articles
#2593 [23:46] <gamerz> what if i cant remember the email i usewd is there a way i can get it
#2594 [23:46] <Gone_Ralex> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#2595 [23:46] <gamerz> i have a few emails cuz i have seperate accounts
#2596 [23:46] <Gone_Ralex> probably better to just try the ones you think it could be
#2597 [23:47] <mattym> go into your email accounts and search for an email from mojang
#2598 [23:49] <mattym> SinZ: Also i think someone added more factoids for mojang support stuff recently
#2599 [23:50] <BrandonL77> This is a bit too much for me and it's getting late. If I can get the drivers updated is that it, or are there more steps after that?
#2600 [23:51] <mattym> that should help
#2601 [23:51] <mattym> also
#2602 [23:51] <mattym> if you can get to the graphics options
#2603 [23:51] <mattym> lower stuff, make sure the render disntance isnt set to Far
#2604 [23:51] <mattym> turn off fancy graphics
#2605 [23:51] <BrandonL77> OK...Thanks!
#2606 [23:52] <mattym> that should help it run better, but like i said the hardware on that laptop is quite old
#2607 [23:52] <BrandonL77> Graphics options are fancy or fast so is fast better?
#2608 [23:53] <BrandonL77> render was set to far
#2609 [23:53] <mattym> fast is better for you
#2610 [23:53] <mattym> and render normal should work out better
#2611 [23:53] <BrandonL77> ok
#2612 [23:53] <mattym> good luck
#2613 [23:54] <BrandonL77> same crash message
#2614 [23:54] <BrandonL77> Ill work on the drivers tomorrow. Thanks for all of your help
#2615 [23:55] <gamerz> i cant find it
#2616 [23:55] <mattym> BrandonL77: also when you do that, update your Java as well
#2617 [23:55] <BrandonL77> OK
#2618 [23:56] <mattym> gamerz: If you cant find any of the info there is really nothing that we can do
#2619 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> gamerz - Try a password reset on all email addresses you use
#2620 [23:56] <gamerz> ok thx
#2621 [23:57] <BrandonL77> thanks again
#2622 [23:57] <mattym> np
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