#1 [00:00] <mattym> should he/she have gone up to Java 1_7_13 before using those builds?
#2 [00:00] <portlandplease> where do i go to drop those?
#3 [00:01] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, this is just the bin/lwjgl.jar
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#5 [00:03] <portlandplease> same thing. "done loading"
#6 [00:03] <Lord_Ralex> does the same thing appear when a crash report is made?
#7 [00:06] <portlandplease> http://pastebin.com/3trr7n07
#8 [00:07] <Lord_Ralex> final thing would be to see if the Java 1.7.13 version is a fix i guess
#9 [00:07] <portlandplease> ok
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#11 [00:08] <mrmost> i have the fatal error 4 null when i try to play minecraft
#12 [00:09] <mrmost> how do i fix it
#13 [00:09] <mattym> mrmost What OS are you on?
#14 [00:09] <mrmost> windows 7
#15 [00:09] <mattym> is your Java completely up to date?
#16 [00:10] <mrmost> yes i updated earlier
#17 [00:10] <Lord_Ralex> What AV do you have and any firewalls?
#18 [00:10] <mrmost> i had malware bytes i disabled it i turned off windows firewall and defender
#19 [00:11] <mattym> mrmost have you tried redownloading the Launcher?
#20 [00:11] <Lord_Ralex> ??< fatalerror4
#21 [00:11] <portlandplease> still the same thing after the java install
#22 [00:11] <Lord_Ralex> gagh
#23 [00:11] <Lord_Ralex> ?? fatalerror4
#24 [00:11] <VoxelHead> fatalerror4: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-35.html has a fix for Minecraft problems caused by malware or other issues causing Fatal Error 4.
#25 [00:12] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, bleh
#26 [00:12] <portlandplease> yep
#27 [00:12] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, only thing else is to see if you can downgrade to java 6
#28 [00:12] <Lord_Ralex> but who knows how apple is about that
#29 [00:13] <portlandplease> So no one with java 7 can play Minecraft on a mac?
#30 [00:13] <mrmost> well if thats the download you find on minecrafts website this one :minecraft.exe (270 kb)
#31 [00:13] <mrmost> then yes
#32 [00:13] <Lord_Ralex> it is harder for it to work portlandplease
#33 [00:13] <portlandplease> man that sucks
#34 [00:13] <Lord_Ralex> some have had it work, but there are issues that make it hard
#35 [00:14] <Lord_Ralex> That error you get now is at least different
#36 [00:14] <mattym> mrmost What else does it say besides Fatal Error 4
#37 [00:14] <Lord_Ralex> not seen it before, so looking to see if it is fixable
#38 [00:15] <Lord_Ralex> wait a sec
#39 [00:15] <Lord_Ralex> googleing that error does not appear to be a mc issue
#40 [00:16] <mattym> portlandplease downgrading to the latest version of java 6 "almost" always fixes the issue on Mac's, but there are ways to make it work on 7
#41 [00:16] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, where were you getting this report?
#42 [00:16] <Lord_Ralex> this does not look like java making it, but rather your mac telling the issues
#43 [00:16] <Lord_Ralex> cause spotify and google things are showing up
#44 [00:17] <portlandplease> yea that was my fault. spotify and such running while doing it.
#45 [00:17] <mrmost> fatal error occured (4): null
#46 [00:17] <Lord_Ralex> the thing is that they should not be there in the logs
#47 [00:17] <Lord_Ralex> that is not MC reporting an error, that is the mac reporting its errors
#48 [00:17] <portlandplease> hmmm weird
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#50 [00:18] <portlandplease> well i went to console and got the logs
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#52 [00:20] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, one sec
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#54 [00:20] <Lord_Ralex> uh
#55 [00:21] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, can you get on minecraft.net?
#56 [00:21] <Lord_Ralex> help says it is up, but all i get is a white screen
#57 [00:22] <portlandplease> just got this crash report http://pastebin.com/xQVKLte6
#58 [00:22] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, that the one from now or earlier?
#59 [00:22] <portlandplease> now
#60 [00:22] <Lord_Ralex> odd
#61 [00:22] <Lord_Ralex> lwjgl is reporting the wrong version number
#62 [00:23] <Lord_Ralex> java appears updated, but not lwjgl
#63 [00:23] <Lord_Ralex> it is still using the old one
#64 [00:23] <portlandplease> hmm
#65 [00:23] <mattym> Lord_Ralex Stepped away but yeah it works fine for me
#66 [00:23] <portlandplease> i replaced it with the one you sent
#67 [00:23] <portlandplease> ill try again
#68 [00:23] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, yeah, looks like a bump
#69 [00:23] <mrmost> fatal error occured (4): null thats all it says would it matter if i had it before and wasnt paying for it
#70 [00:24] <mattym> demo?
#71 [00:24] <Lord_Ralex> mrmost, the error is likely the cause of some AV you have
#72 [00:25] <mrmost> yeah but i deleted it
#73 [00:25] <mattym> are you sure that you dont have Mcafee, Avast, or anything like that?
#74 [00:25] <mrmost> i searched it and nothing came up
#75 [00:26] <mattym> and any other antivirus you have is currently off?
#76 [00:27] <mrmost> i unistalled norton and restarted windows firewall is off windows defender is off and my internet security is disabled
#77 [00:28] <mattym> mrmost do you know where your .minecraft folder is?
#78 [00:29] <portlandplease> updated the lwjgl and now after logging in i get a black screen with nothing happening
#79 [00:29] <portlandplease> no error or crash
#80 [00:29] <mrmost> let me check one second
#81 [00:29] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, alright
#82 [00:29] <Lord_Ralex> let's try to get a report then
#83 [00:30] <mattym> ??> mrmost win/.minecraft
#84 [00:30] <VoxelHead> mrmost: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#85 [00:30] <mattym> mrmost try renaming that folder, then run the launcher again
#86 [00:30] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, can you do method 3: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Method_3
#87 [00:31] <Lord_Ralex> (that line btw is very long, it goes off the screen)
#88 [00:33] <mrmost> now when i run the luancher it just closes
#89 [00:34] <mattym> that means something on your computer is preventing it from running
#90 [00:34] <mattym> when you downloaded it what browser did you use?
#91 [00:34] <mrmost> internet explorer
#92 [00:35] <mattym> ok, try downloading the launcher with a different browser
#93 [00:35] <mrmost> google chrome?
#94 [00:35] <mattym> yeah
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#96 [00:37] <mrmost> still same error
#97 [00:38] <mrmost> could it be happening if say like mcpatcher is in my .minecraft folder
#98 [00:38] <portlandplease> http://pastebin.com/arisuhaJ
#99 [00:38] <portlandplease> black window is still up also
#100 [00:38] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, do you know how to change directories using the terminal?
#101 [00:39] <mattym> mrmost in your .minecraft folder?
#102 [00:39] <portlandplease> nope
#103 [00:39] <mrmost> yes
#104 [00:39] <mattym> that shouldnt cause the issue, but get rid of it anyway
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#106 [00:39] <Lord_Ralex> okay, portlandplease, if you right click in your file view, does it show a "open in terminal"?
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#109 [00:40] <portlandplease> yep. its default
#110 [00:41] <Lord_Ralex> what is the name of your downloads folder?
#111 [00:41] <mrmost> but after i used different browserit still didnt work
#112 [00:41] <portlandplease> downloads
#113 [00:41] <Lord_Ralex> okay, portlandplease, in the terminal, type: cd Downloads
#114 [00:42] <mattym> mrmost can you try to play the game on minecraft.net
#115 [00:43] <portlandplease> didnt do anything. just says "new-host-2:Downloads" then my names
#116 [00:43] <portlandplease> name
#117 [00:43] <mrmost> if this might matter my pathway to my .minecraft folder is > justin > AppData > Roaming > oldminecraft (thats .minecraft)
#118 [00:43] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, that is what it should have done
#119 [00:43] <portlandplease> oh ok lol
#120 [00:43] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, now, download the linux client, which is located here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#121 [00:43] <portlandplease> done. launch it?
#122 [00:43] <Lord_Ralex> not yet
#123 [00:44] <Lord_Ralex> in the terminal, type: java -jar minecraft.jar
#124 [00:44] <portlandplease> its just launched it
#125 [00:44] <Lord_Ralex> good
#126 [00:44] <mrmost> no i cant play it on minecraft.net niether
#127 [00:44] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, now, log in, and errors will be printed into the terminal
#128 [00:45] <Lord_Ralex> once it black screens, can you pastebin what is in the terminal
#129 [00:45] <mattym> mrmost then some sort of program is blocking your program from use
#130 [00:45] <mrmost> is there a way to tell?
#131 [00:46] <mattym> do you have any other program that is in any way related to security
#132 [00:46] <portlandplease> nothing is coming up in terminal
#133 [00:46] <mrmost> or a foolproof way to get it to work
#134 [00:46] <mattym> mrmost what kind of computer do you have?
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#136 [00:47] <mrmost> gateway laptop im not sure of the model
#137 [00:47] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, does it show anything there? it should be showing something, at least "asdf" for example
#138 [00:47] <mattym> ??> mrmost win/dxdiag
#139 [00:47] <VoxelHead> mrmost: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#140 [00:47] <VoxelHead> mrmost: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#141 [00:48] <portlandplease> nope. just says "new-host-2:Downloads" like it did before I logged in
#142 [00:48] <mattym> mrmost please follow the directions linked by Voxelhead
#143 [00:48] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, okay
#144 [00:48] <Lord_Ralex> can you try then this command: java -jar minecraft.jar > log.txt
#145 [00:48] <Lord_Ralex> and tell me if it creates a file called log.txt
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#147 [00:49] <portlandplease> it launched it again thats it
#148 [00:50] <Lord_Ralex> did it not make a file?
#149 [00:50] <portlandplease> just says the "new-host" thing below what i wrote
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#151 [00:51] <Lord_Ralex> man, macs are annoying >_>
#152 [00:52] <mrmost> http://pastebin.com/P4WnrB6g
#153 [00:52] <mrmost> thats it
#154 [00:52] <portlandplease> Yea, if I didn't need mine for photography, I wouldnt have one
#155 [00:53] <Lord_Ralex> can you pastebin your terminal as it is now?
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#157 [00:53] <mattym> mrmost did you download the 64 bit version of Java?
#158 [00:53] <mrmost> how do i tell if i have?
#159 [00:53] <portlandplease> http://pastebin.com/6xS01Z65
#160 [00:54] <mattym> portlandplease My dad is a professional photographer and bought a Mac, and ended up switching back to windows cause nothing on the Mac worked as intended
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#162 [00:54] <mrmost> i dont think i have 64 bit java
#163 [00:54] <mattym> ok mrmost 1 moment
#164 [00:54] <portlandplease> lol lately things have been messing up. But for the past 4 years, its been ok
#165 [00:55] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, and whey you hit enter, it launches the client, and shows that eddiepearson line?
#166 [00:55] <Lord_Ralex> even while the launcher is still open?
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#168 [00:55] <mattym> mrmost go here http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp get the 64bit one for windows
#169 [00:55] <portlandplease> yep
#170 [00:55] <Lord_Ralex> man
#171 [00:56] <Lord_Ralex> okay
#172 [00:56] <mattym> Java 6 time Ralex?
#173 [00:57] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, it is not really that
#174 [00:57] <Lord_Ralex> but java should not be doing what it is doing now
#175 [00:57] <Lord_Ralex> wonder if a .command file would work better
#176 [00:58] <mrmost> ok i have 64 bit now
#177 [00:58] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, one second, let me look up something
#178 [00:58] <mattym> mrmost does the file launch now, are you still getting error 4?
#179 [00:58] <portlandplease> ok
#180 [00:59] <Lord_Ralex> hmm
#181 [00:59] <mrmost> yes i still get it :/
#182 [00:59] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, do you know what your home directory is?
#183 [01:00] <portlandplease> no
#184 [01:00] <Lord_Ralex> do you know the folder the downloads folder is in?
#185 [01:00] <portlandplease> yes
#186 [01:00] <Lord_Ralex> okay
#187 [01:00] <Lord_Ralex> go to that folder
#188 [01:00] <portlandplease> alright
#189 [01:01] <mattym> mrmost Im not sure what else to try
#190 [01:01] <Lord_Ralex> in there, is there a file called log.txt?
#191 [01:01] <portlandplease> yep
#192 [01:01] <Lord_Ralex> open that
#193 [01:01] <Lord_Ralex> does it start with asdf?
#194 [01:01] <Lord_Ralex> as the first line
#195 [01:02] <portlandplease> its blank
#196 [01:02] <Lord_Ralex> oh
#197 [01:02] <Lord_Ralex> well, that does at least help
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#199 [01:02] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, one sec, going to get a .command file made to see ifwe can get this error
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#201 [01:03] <mrmost> well i should have thought of this before but the internet im on is highly secured could that cause issues like not my computer but the internet in general
#202 [01:03] <Lord_Ralex> mrmost, that can be an issue
#203 [01:03] <Lord_Ralex> lower that setting down
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#205 [01:04] <mattym> Are you on a School/College network or something like that
#206 [01:04] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, we are going to need the terminal in a moment
#207 [01:04] <portlandplease> ok
#208 [01:04] <Lord_Ralex> Please download https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53849969/run.command first
#209 [01:05] <mrmost> no it blocks certain things its fairly restricted like it blocks file share sites and all other sites like that
#210 [01:06] <portlandplease> it just comes up as a text page. copy?
#211 [01:06] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, blah, dropbox being evil, sec
#212 [01:06] <Lord_Ralex> can make it a downloadable file
#213 [01:06] <Bugboy1028> GreyVulpine
#214 [01:07] <mattym> mrmost its possible that those settings are preventing you from properly using the program, see what you can do about having them reduced/fixed
#215 [01:07] <Bugboy1028> Does you have the script that checks if MineCraft is down?
#216 [01:07] <mattym> or if there is a way to bypass them
#217 [01:07] <mattym> Bugboy1028 the mojang site has status updates for all their services
#218 [01:07] <mattym> in their help page/tab
#219 [01:08] <Bugboy1028> Specify MineCraft.
#220 [01:08] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, go to the terminal
#221 [01:08] <portlandplease> ok
#222 [01:08] <mattym> Minecraft cant be down, minecraft.net or the login/auth servers can be, but currently arent
#223 [01:09] <mrmost> hmm i might
#224 [01:09] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, actually wait, looks like macs don't have the command i hoped they did
#225 [01:09] <mrmost> ok thank you if changing that doesnt work then ill come back
#226 [01:10] <mrmost> you were very helpful
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#228 [01:10] <mattym> I am still willing to bet he has security software hes not aware of
#229 [01:11] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, does this link work: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v32kvhb7zqbybhk/D6kdQdOpqy/run.command
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#231 [01:11] <portlandplease> yep
#232 [01:11] <Lord_Ralex> yay
#233 [01:11] <Lord_Ralex> download the file please, then go to terminal
#234 [01:14] <portlandplease> The file “run.command” could not be executed because you do not have appropriate access privileges.
#235 [01:15] <Lord_Ralex> in the terminal, type: chmod +x run.command
#236 [01:15] <portlandplease> nothing
#237 [01:15] <Lord_Ralex> now type: ./run.command
#238 [01:16] <portlandplease> opened minecraft
#239 [01:16] <Lord_Ralex> is there a log.txt file in the downloads folder?
#240 [01:17] <portlandplease> yep
#241 [01:17] <Lord_Ralex> does it have anything in it?
#242 [01:17] <portlandplease> no
#243 [01:17] <Lord_Ralex> ehh
#244 [01:17] <Lord_Ralex> try logging in to minecraft and let it run
#245 [01:18] <portlandplease> black screen of death and nothing in terminal
#246 [01:18] <Lord_Ralex> did the file change?
#247 [01:19] <portlandplease> no
#248 [01:19] <Lord_Ralex> ugh
#249 [01:19] <Lord_Ralex> it should be printing output to that file
#250 [01:20] <Lord_Ralex> close minecraft, does it do anything to the file?
#251 [01:20] <Lord_Ralex> if not, then i am basically out of ideas, as without a crash report, there is no where to even start
#252 [01:20] <portlandplease> this blows. nothing happens
#253 [01:21] <Lord_Ralex> hmm
#254 [01:21] <Lord_Ralex> does anyone else have a suggestion?
#255 [01:21] <mattym> Has it ever even made it to the Mojang splash?
#256 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Any chance of downgrading to java 6 on mac?
#257 [01:21] <portlandplease> wait, i clicked on that run.command and it opened minecraft again
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#259 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Or has Apple still gone the route of disabling the java preferences control panel still?
#260 [01:22] <Lord_Ralex> about to take the teamviewer route here
#261 [01:23] <portlandplease> but the txt file still didnt change
#262 [01:23] <mattym> Grey while your here, does mirc have an option somewhere to underline web urls?
#263 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Not sure...
#264 [01:24] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, do you mind if you download teamviewer so i can see your screen and see if I can help better though that?
#265 [01:24] <portlandplease> sure i dont care
#266 [01:24] <Lord_Ralex> ??> portlandplease teamviewer
#267 [01:24] <VoxelHead> portlandplease: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#268 [01:24] <VoxelHead> portlandplease: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#269 [01:25] <Lord_Ralex> Please PM me(using /msg Lord_Ralex) the id and the pass it makes for you
#270 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> mattym - Doesn't look like it, but it shouldn't be too hard to script
#271 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> mattym - See: http://forums.mirc.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/228927/page/5
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#273 [01:25] <mattym> yeah, just wanted to know if you knew off the top of your head, lots of options to filter through
#274 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Or even: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4867035/how-do-i-change-the-color-of-links-in-mirc
#275 [01:26] <mattym> wanted to make sure i didnt miss it
#276 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> mIRC's extremely customizable in that regard. If it's not a default behavior, script it.
#277 [01:26] <mattym> thanks ill read into those later
#278 [01:26] <portlandplease> done. I am on it now
#279 [01:27] <mattym> with all the options i was surprised it wasnt there
#280 [01:27] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, please pm me the id and the pass
#281 [01:36] <portlandplease> http://pastebin.com/xENqPLbB
#282 [01:37] <Lord_Ralex> that is the error he is getting
#283 [01:37] <Lord_Ralex> (apparently using -jar in macs does not work well)
#284 [01:39] <mattym> still looks like java isnt working right
#285 [01:39] <Lord_Ralex> that is not java
#286 [01:39] <Lord_Ralex> that is lwjgl
#287 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Are you copying the lwjgl files over correctly?
#288 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> It seems like either not all the lwjgl files are there, they're in the wrong spot, or you're mixing up the lwjgl files..
#289 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> It's complaining that the lwjgl classes aren't calling one another correctly
#290 [01:40] <Bugboy1028> GreyVulpine, is there list of commands for your bot?
#291 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> There is not.
#292 [01:40] <portlandplease> i am replacing the old with the new like i was told.
#293 [01:41] <portlandplease> unless i deleted something accidently
#294 [01:44] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, can you copy over all the files from those downloads then and see if they fix it
#295 [01:44] <portlandplease> so dont delete anything? just copy over?
#296 [01:44] <Lord_Ralex> yeah
#297 [01:45] <Lord_Ralex> i hate to leave now, but i have to sleep
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#299 [01:45] <Lord_Ralex> been up way too long and have to get up early tomorrow
#300 [01:46] <portlandplease> its cool
#301 [01:46] <portlandplease> thanks
#302 [01:46] <Lord_Ralex> it seems like we are close to getting it fixed though, good luck to you
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#306 [01:52] <Bugboy1028> portlandplease, it is......
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#308 [01:55] <mattym> ?
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#333 [03:25] <JS> Hi, there. I have a problem while running the "play the demo" on minecarft web site.
#334 [03:26] <JS> It seems the error caused by Java VM.
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#336 [03:28] <JS> There is only one error message "Error: Click for details" shown in the blank box.
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#338 [03:29] <JS> When I clicked for details, it shows "Java Plug-in 10.13.2.20 Using JRE version 1.7.0_13-b20 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM ......"
#339 [03:29] <liam1911> hi i have forgot my password
#340 [03:29] <liam1911> can you help
#341 [03:30] <liam1911> how can i get my password
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#343 [03:30] <YinTaiYang> hi
#344 [03:30] <YinTaiYang> not sure if this is the best place to ask
#345 [03:30] <YinTaiYang> but how do I take the minecraft logo in the title screen and insert it into an image
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#350 [03:35] <YinTaiYang> alright nvm that
#351 [03:35] <YinTaiYang> i have some serious fps problems when i set my render distance to further than tiny
#352 [03:36] <YinTaiYang> can someone help me with that
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#375 [04:30] <lolTawnee> There seems to be a grey player marker stuck on map that's not me. Any thoughts on how to fix/prevent this?
#376 [04:30] <lolTawnee> There seems to be a grey player marker stuck on map that's not me. Any thoughts on how to fix/prevent this?
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#389 [04:59] <Flatbeard> == Why does Minecraft crash when exiting my inventory? Error report available here: http://pastebin.com/JJxi2kYM ... but it doesn
#390 [05:00] <Flatbeard> (sorry) but it doesnt say anything specific wrong. Minecraft is clean and freshly updated, no mods. (did the same thing with Mos Creatures, by the way. Does the same thing regardless of world.
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#392 [05:03] <Flatbeard> (be adviced, Im new to IRC chatting, strange as it may sound... somebody hold my hand here, please! :)
#393 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> Hmm, index out of bounds seems to point to a mouse problem in the config for the controls
#394 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> especially the -100
#395 [05:05] <DiskDaemon> Try this -
#396 [05:05] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/reinst
#397 [05:05] <Flatbeard> Loggin into MC! Gotta check! BRB!
#398 [05:05] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#399 [05:05] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#400 [05:05] <Flatbeard> Oy ...
#401 [05:05] <Flatbeard> Ok, thanks. Will try.
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#410 [05:36] <Ivana> Hi
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#412 [05:36] <Ivana> Hi
#413 [05:37] <Ivana> Hi how can someone in Italy download minecraft
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#416 [05:39] <benhunter09> http://minecraft.net/download
#417 [05:39] <Ivana> How can a person in Italy download minecraft
#418 [05:39] <benhunter09> Ivana: http://minecraft.net/download
#419 [05:41] <Ivana> Are there any sites or tutorials to help an italics
#420 [05:41] <Ivana> Italian understand how it is done
#421 [05:42] <Bugboy1028> Ivana, can you speak English?
#422 [05:43] <Ivana> Yes I can, but I am enquiring on behalf of my cousin in Italy.
#423 [05:43] <Bugboy1028> Same way you can
#424 [05:44] <Bugboy1028> But Minecraft have langanue support
#425 [05:44] <Bugboy1028> If your cousin have purchase the minecraft already
#426 [05:44] <Bugboy1028> And login
#427 [05:44] <Bugboy1028> On left of the Opinion
#428 [05:44] <Bugboy1028> There's World symbol
#429 [05:45] <Bugboy1028> Click on tht
#430 [05:45] <Bugboy1028> There, you will see all of the avalible languanges
#431 [05:45] <Ivana> Cool I understand that, but its just hard for me to translate. So I just thought there might be a tutorial translated in Italian that I could let him know about installing etc
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#434 [05:46] <Bugboy1028> Tuo cugino non aiuta.
#435 [05:49] <Ivana> My cousin doesnt know how to download the launcher because it is in English and cannot purchase not understanding the language
#436 [05:50] <Bugboy1028> http://itools.com/tool/google-translate-web-page-translator
#437 [05:51] <Ivana> Why doesn't minecraft .net consider having language options since it has become so successful globally. That might be an idea !!! Or aren't they making enough money.
#438 [05:52] <Bugboy1028> Browser usually does it for them
#439 [05:52] <Ivana> Thanks
#440 [05:52] <Bugboy1028> Ivana, Google Chrome will offer to translate it
#441 [05:52] <Bugboy1028> just go to google.it
#442 [05:52] <Bugboy1028> just go to google.it ( Google In Itatlian )
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#448 [06:20] <Guest96004> THIS IS A QUESTION ABOUT THE XBOX VERSION OF MINECAFT. I play minecraft on the xbox daily. When i go on youtube i notice on their videos their title screen background is diffrent then mine. How do i change my background on the title screen
#449 [06:21] <Guest96004> THIS IS A QUESTION ABOUT THE XBOX VERSION OF MINECRAFT. I play minecraft on the xbox daily. When i go on youtube i notice on their videos their title screen background is diffrent then mine. How do i change my background on the title screen
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#453 [06:25] <maor6791> hi
#454 [06:26] <Guest96004> hello
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#459 [06:28] <maor6791> how do you play multiplayer
#460 [06:29] <bo> i wanna play mine craft and i registered but i didnt recive a comform email from you. it isnt in my spam
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#463 [06:30] <maor6791> how can i play multiplayer
#464 [06:30] <bo> how long does it take to get a comfirm mail? after you registerded
#465 [06:31] <maor6791> with a firend on a map
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#469 [06:33] <maor6791> how do i play multiplayer on a map with a firend
#470 [06:34] <Andrio> Are you and your friend on a LAN together?
#471 [06:35] <maor6791> yes
#472 [06:35] <Andrio> OK
#473 [06:35] <Andrio> Open your world in single player
#474 [06:35] <Andrio> Pause the game, and select Open to LAN.
#475 [06:36] <maor6791> and i gave him the number and he tiped it in in multiiplayer and it didn't work
#476 [06:36] <Andrio> You shouldn't need to do that, it should just show up automatically on his multiplayer menu.
#477 [06:38] <maor6791> we play from difrent internet
#478 [06:38] <Andrio> Then you're not on a LAN together, are you?
#479 [06:38] <Andrio> so, you'll either need to run a server and port forward it, which I can't help you with
#480 [06:38] <maor6791> no but how do oyu do all that stuff
#481 [06:38] <Andrio> or find another server to join.
#482 [06:39] <maor6791> dut i want to play a map
#483 [06:39] <maor6791> but
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#492 [07:31] <P2501> I'm trying to install the Minecraft demo and I'm running into a problem. The launcher will not connect in order to download the install files. It says it is unable to login. I created an account on minecraft.net, and can log in there fine. I've turned off firewalls, updated java, and tried the IPv4/IPv6 flags. Nothing works. Any ideas?
#493 [07:38] <benhunter09> ?? Demo
#494 [07:38] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#495 [07:39] <P2501> Thanks
#496 [07:40] <benhunter09> Your welcome
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#507 [08:19] <bezaban> where are you supposed to spawn when you exit the end in regular play?
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#517 [08:54] <aviodroom> ello
#518 [08:55] <aviodroom> how can i make a server?
#519 [08:55] <aviodroom> how cane i make a server?
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#530 [09:13] <mscovado> hi, i have an asus eee on which minecraft is pretty much unplayable and I'm looking to upgrade my machine - hopefully to something I can play minecraft on
#531 [09:14] <mscovado> I'm wondering if anyone call tell me whether this will have good enough specs: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009RGAW42/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers#productDetails
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#533 [09:15] <mscovado> (I have no clue how to compare chips and GPUs)
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#536 [09:20] <xales> mscovado: one moment
#537 [09:21] <xales> generally getting a tower and not an "all-in-one" will cost less and give you better performance for the price
#538 [09:22] <xales> also, that series of computer only comes with an Intel graphics processor, which is bad
#539 [09:22] <xales> try to find a computer with an Nvidia or AMD/ATI GPU
#540 [09:22] <xales> (CPU doesn't matter as much; but one that isn't Celeron (like that one) or Atom is better)
#541 [09:24] <mscovado> xales: thanks! heh, right. so not that one I guess :) shame, it looksed shiny
#542 [09:24] <mscovado> *looked
#543 [09:24] <xales> Something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229361
#544 [09:24] <xales> or this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113194
#545 [09:24] <xales> would be better
#546 [09:24] <xales> the former comes with Windows 8 (which is pretty horrible if you ask me), the latter comes with Windows 7
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#548 [09:25] <xales> the cyberpower one would probably be better, as it's actually intended for gaming
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#553 [09:26] <mscovado> cheers xales
#554 [09:26] <xales> anyway, I have to run, I'll be back in a few hours
#555 [09:26] <mscovado> no worries - laters
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#570 [09:54] <Firefox44057> I cant reach my server
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#572 [09:55] <FLHerne> Firefox44057: Was it working previously?
#573 [09:56] <Firefox44057> no
#574 [09:56] <FLHerne> Also, is it hosted on one of your own PCs, or one of those commercial services?
#575 [09:56] <Firefox44057> my own PC
#576 [09:56] <FLHerne> Have you set up port-forwarding on your router?
#577 [09:57] <Firefox44057> yes
#578 [09:57] <Firefox44057> i think
#579 [09:57] <FLHerne> Are you trying to connect from inside your own LAN, or externally?
#580 [09:57] <Firefox44057> externally
#581 [09:57] <FLHerne> What IP?
#582 [09:57] <Firefox44057> um give me sec
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#584 [09:58] <Firefox44057> 192.168.1.104
#585 [09:58] <FLHerne> Ah. That's an internal IP, you need to find the IP of your router as it appears to the outside world ;-)
#586 [09:59] <Firefox44057> oh ok
#587 [09:59] <Firefox44057> if thats the only problem then it should work then
#588 [09:59] <FLHerne> There are various sites that'll tell you that, or your router interface probably shows it somewhere
#589 [10:00] <Firefox44057> ok thank you
#590 [10:00] <Firefox44057> wait
#591 [10:00] <Firefox44057> how do you get to the external ip
#592 [10:01] <FLHerne> If you use the external IP, and forward port 25565 to the internal IP of the computer running the server, it should work, yes
#593 [10:02] <FLHerne> http://www.whatismyip.org/ should tell you. Or one of the many similar sites
#594 [10:02] <Firefox44057> should i use the main computer to get to the external ip
#595 [10:02] <Firefox44057> oh ok
#596 [10:03] <Firefox44057> nvm i got it thank you
#597 [10:03] <FLHerne> If you're trying to connect to your server from outside the LAN, give the external IP of the router at the server end as the IP to connect to ;-)
#598 [10:03] <FLHerne> Good :-)
#599 [10:03] <Firefox44057> have nice day
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#622 [11:02] <ikillcreepers> when i try to log into my account on the front page of minecraft i put in my username and my password , then i click log in , and it says log in failed . how do i log in without it saying login failed ?
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#624 [11:05] <ikillcreepers> is this a helping person or a person looking for help ?
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#626 [11:06] <ikillcreepers> i need help !
#627 [11:06] <ikillcreepers> eddie ?
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#636 [11:25] <DylanCl> Hello. I'm currently on ubuntu, and when I want to use the inventory hotkeys( 1,2,3 ) it doesn't do anything. It only works when using shift+1,2,3
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#638 [11:27] <worldmc> capslock on or off DylanCl ?
#639 [11:28] <DylanCl> On doesn't do anything, neither does off
#640 [11:28] <Lord_Ralex> maybe controls got changed? mind checking them?
#641 [11:28] <worldmc> hit esc> options> controlls and check if there is anything derpy
#642 [11:29] <Lord_Ralex> although don't think hotkeys have those options now i think about it
#643 [11:29] <worldmc> esc if you are ingame otherwise just go to options
#644 [11:29] <DylanCl> Checked it
#645 [11:29] <DylanCl> everything is how it should be
#646 [11:29] <DylanCl> I changed the move keys to zqsd
#647 [11:29] <rotorwife> I had to do a restore on my pc and need to find out how to reload minecraft
#648 [11:29] <Lord_Ralex> might be jwjgl then DylanCl
#649 [11:29] <DylanCl> Can I do anything about it?
#650 [11:29] <Lord_Ralex> ??> DylanCl java/lwjgl
#651 [11:29] <VoxelHead> DylanCl: (java/lwjgl) See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL for a guide on manually updating to a new version of LWJGL.
#652 [11:29] <rotorwife> i am able to login to minecraft.net but only get a black screen
#653 [11:29] <worldmc> does jwjgl do that?
#654 [11:29] <DylanCl> Already downgraded it
#655 [11:29] <DylanCl> had to get 2.8.4
#656 [11:30] <worldmc> rotorwife did you do a force update?
#657 [11:30] <rotorwife> no, just finished the restore process and that wiped minecraft
#658 [11:30] <rotorwife> dont know how to force update
#659 [11:30] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, does any other actions get affected by shift?
#660 [11:31] <worldmc> ??> rotorwife forceupdate
#661 [11:31] <VoxelHead> rotorwife: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#662 [11:31] <VoxelHead> rotorwife: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#663 [11:31] <DylanCl> Nope
#664 [11:31] <DylanCl> Just the stupid hotkeys
#665 [11:31] <rotorwife> thanks! ill try that!
#666 [11:31] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, what ubuntu version and what java?
#667 [11:32] <DylanCl> 12.04
#668 [11:32] <DylanCl> and I use java 7
#669 [11:32] <DylanCl> Wait no
#670 [11:32] <DylanCl> 6
#671 [11:32] <DylanCl> OpenJDK Java 6 runtime
#672 [11:32] <Lord_Ralex> OpenJDK or Sun?
#673 [11:32] <Lord_Ralex> gah, and as you say it >_>
#674 [11:32] <worldmc> get sun i think? dont know if jdk does the same as sun
#675 [11:33] <Lord_Ralex> ubuntu is a pain with oracle on that
#676 [11:33] <rotorwife> still a black screen
#677 [11:33] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, mind updating it to 7?
#678 [11:33] <worldmc> rotorwife you have java installed?
#679 [11:33] <rotorwife> i do
#680 [11:34] <worldmc> wich ver?
#681 [11:34] <DylanCl> 7 didn't do anything
#682 [11:34] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, you have no mods, correct?
#683 [11:36] <DylanCl> Only optifine
#684 [11:36] <DylanCl> But I don't think that changes anything keyboardwise
#685 [11:36] <Lord_Ralex> it could though
#686 [11:36] <Lord_Ralex> run it without and make sure
#687 [11:36] <Lord_Ralex> optifine can do things that one may not think it does
#688 [11:36] <rotorwife> it was 7 but i think the auto install did not do 7 after restore. let me try that
#689 [11:37] <DylanCl> Well
#690 [11:37] <DylanCl> I think it's something on ubuntu
#691 [11:37] <DylanCl> On windows 7 it works just fine
#692 [11:37] <DylanCl> except now that I have a BSOD :P
#693 [11:37] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, for us to help, you do have to run it w/o mods, cause we have to know it is vanilla doing it
#694 [11:37] <Lord_Ralex> (and i boot like 5 OSes >_> <_<)
#695 [11:37] <DylanCl> Alright, I'll force update
#696 [11:37] <Lord_Ralex> (grub is not liking me for that)
#697 [11:38] <worldmc> lol
#698 [11:38] <worldmc> why boot 5 ?
#699 [11:38] <Lord_Ralex> boredom
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#701 [11:38] <Lord_Ralex> backtracker, mint, ubuntu, centos (2 copies somehow), and windows
#702 [11:38] <worldmc> lol
#703 [11:38] <worldmc> brb
#704 [11:38] <Lord_Ralex> tempted to also throw xp on
#705 [11:39] <DylanCl> ubuntu is nice
#706 [11:39] <Lord_Ralex> i prefer mint over ubuntu
#707 [11:39] <worldmc> lord? if it doesnt work for rotorwife let her do the win error bat script
#708 [11:39] <worldmc> see what happens
#709 [11:39] <DylanCl> What does mint do?
#710 [11:39] <Lord_Ralex> worldmc, was just going to get crash report first
#711 [11:39] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, uh, how does one answer that....
#712 [11:40] <DylanCl> true
#713 [11:40] <Lord_Ralex> http://www.linuxmint.com/
#714 [11:40] <DylanCl> I already am on that page xd
#715 [11:40] <Lord_Ralex> .-.
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#717 [11:40] <DylanCl> oh no
#718 [11:40] <Lord_Ralex> it pulls from ubuntu repos and has apt-get, so using it is same as ubuntu
#719 [11:40] <DylanCl> I did a force update
#720 [11:41] <DylanCl> and now I have to put lwgl or something in again
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#722 [11:41] <Lord_Ralex> try it with the 2.4.2
#723 [11:42] <DylanCl> Oh great -- black screen
#724 [11:43] <DylanCl> http://pastebin.com/UKDdjTnc
#725 [11:43] <Lord_Ralex> that with 2.4.2?
#726 [11:43] <Lord_Ralex> or 2.8.4?
#727 [11:43] <DylanCl> 2.8.4
#728 [11:44] <Calinou> Lord_Ralex: you managed to dualboot with today's windows? omfg
#729 [11:44] <DylanCl> I don't really want to downgrade again because 2.8.4 works just fine
#730 [11:44] <Lord_Ralex> Calinou, not hard
#731 [11:44] <Calinou> recovery partitions and UEFI, quand tu nous tiens
#732 [11:44] <Calinou> I stopped trying with today's premade PCs :P
#733 [11:44] <Lord_Ralex> i just nuked it all
#734 [11:44] <Calinou> <Lord_Ralex> ubuntu is a pain with oracle on that
#735 [11:45] <Calinou> openjdk, works for everyone since 2006
#736 [11:45] <DylanCl> I'm going to google for a bit
#737 [11:45] <Lord_Ralex> Calinou, i know :P
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#739 [11:45] <DylanCl> Make caps into shift
#740 [11:45] <Calinou> DylanCl: blame notch for not being azerty-friendly
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#742 [11:45] <Calinou> three ways of fixing: 1) deal with it, 2) switch to qwerty, 3) use xmodmap
#743 [11:45] <DylanCl> Blame Jeb for not updating it
#744 [11:45] <Calinou> 4) use mouse wheel, this isn't an FPS :P
#745 [11:45] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, looks like someone solved it by updating lwjgl
#746 [11:46] <Lord_Ralex> although you have 2.8.4, maybe try 2.8.5 or reinstall 2.8.4?
#747 [11:46] <DylanCl> Hmm
#748 [11:46] <DylanCl> Also
#749 [11:46] <DylanCl> i need to use the hotkeys on a kit pvp server with the fastfood plugin
#750 [11:46] <DylanCl> you can't use the scrollwheel because it isn't fast enough
#751 [11:47] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, looks like people say run 7 as well
#752 [11:47] <DylanCl> So
#753 [11:48] <DylanCl> What lwjgl should I use?
#754 [11:48] <Lord_Ralex> i would reinstall 2.8.4 with Java 7
#755 [11:48] <DylanCl> Java 7 = OpenJDK 7?
#756 [11:48] <Lord_Ralex> yeah
#757 [11:48] <DylanCl> Alright
#758 [11:50] <DylanCl> If only there was a way to make shift like caps lock, just keep it stay on
#759 [11:52] <rotorwife> does it matter that i can only get windows offline options for install?
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#761 [11:52] <Lord_Ralex> rotorwife, those are fine to use
#762 [11:52] <andreas> how I can get the refund?
#763 [11:52] <Lord_Ralex> ??> andreas refund
#764 [11:52] <VoxelHead> andreas: (refund) This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#765 [11:53] <andreas> I have seen that, but is very confusing
#766 [11:53] <Lord_Ralex> andreas, which part is?
#767 [11:53] <andreas> click on it, no phone number...
#768 [11:53] <Lord_Ralex> there is no number
#769 [11:53] <Lord_Ralex> you have to email
#770 [11:53] <Lord_Ralex> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#771 [11:54] <Lord_Ralex> You will have to use that to send them an email, including your order number or transaction ID
#772 [11:54] <rotorwife> ok, updated to java 7, forced update again, login then black screen still
#773 [11:55] <DylanCl> Lord_Ralex, I'm running in OpenJDK 7 and lwjgl 2.8.4, still doesn't work
#774 [11:55] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, same error?
#775 [11:55] <Lord_Ralex> rotorwife, can you try to get a crash report please: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#776 [11:55] <DylanCl> No error, just can't use the keys to switch
#777 [11:56] <Lord_Ralex> so it fixed that crash from earlier, but still has the shift issue?
#778 [11:57] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, just did a quick lookup
#779 [11:57] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, do you have a foreign keyboard?
#780 [11:57] <Lord_Ralex> https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-62?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel appears to be a bug actually
#781 [11:57] <Lord_Ralex> if you don't have a US-Qwerty, it does that
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#783 [11:59] <Calinou> DylanCl: if you need an hotkey, use zombe's "wield" mod
#784 [11:59] <DylanCl> I use a dutch keyboard
#785 [11:59] <Calinou> that lets you switch to bow/sword with one key :P
#786 [11:59] <Lord_Ralex> then DylanCl, looks like a bug in the game :/
#787 [11:59] <Calinou> better than nothing and you can set it to any key
#788 [11:59] <Calinou> Lord_Ralex: since always :P
#789 [12:00] <Lord_Ralex> Calinou, blah, lke i would know >_>
#790 [12:00] <DylanCl> Will it get fixed?
#791 [12:00] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, hopefully it should be
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#793 [12:00] <DylanCl> Oh, okay. :(
#794 [12:00] <DylanCl> Thanks for helping me anyways
#795 [12:00] <Lord_Ralex> might see if there is a mod for it
#796 [12:01] <Lord_Ralex> probably someone may have made a mod for it that fixes it, but really not much else i can suggest now
#797 [12:01] <DylanCl> Lord, the bug you gave me is already resolved
#798 [12:01] <DylanCl> and it's from version 1.4.2
#799 [12:02] <Lord_Ralex> that was the bot that made it resolved
#800 [12:02] <Lord_Ralex> so no idea if it really was or not
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#802 [12:03] <DylanCl> I'll try to look for a mod
#803 [12:03] <DylanCl> it's doesn't really bother me
#804 [12:03] <DylanCl> No kitpvp servers
#805 [12:03] <DylanCl> blergh xd
#806 [12:03] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, looks like the bot went though and cleared them out
#807 [12:03] <Selbram> what was the bug number? was it linked to other bugs, it is possible the one you found was a duplicate and there is a master ticket that is not resolved
#808 [12:03] <Lord_Ralex> 630, 7255, 62 all that one
#809 [12:03] <DylanCl> MC-62
#810 [12:04] <Lord_Ralex> 630 was closed, 7255 made to reopen it, all 3 closed by bot
#811 [12:04] <Lord_Ralex> and 62 was original
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#813 [12:04] <Lord_Ralex> and bot closed 62 and 7255 recently
#814 [12:05] <Selbram> ahh
#815 [12:05] <Selbram> right
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#817 [12:05] <kage_> hello
#818 [12:05] <Selbram> This issue *should* fix itself once lwjgl gets updated in minecraft properly. So until that happens...
#819 [12:05] <Selbram> I remember that bug report
#820 [12:06] <rotorwife> how do i run this batfile?
#821 [12:06] <Lord_Ralex> rotorwife, double click it
#822 [12:06] <kage_> i bought the beta mincraft when it came out with the promise of futre updates. it doesnt let me loggin and i am unable to build certain things
#823 [12:06] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, someone said that F11 might be a fix on it, but idk
#824 [12:06] <Lord_Ralex> well, a way to temp fix it
#825 [12:06] <DylanCl> F11 as in fullscreen?
#826 [12:06] <rotorwife> i cant find it
#827 [12:06] <Necrodoom> Selbram: cant you update it manually
#828 [12:07] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, that what f11 did?
#829 [12:07] <Selbram> you should be able to
#830 [12:07] <Necrodoom> as far as i remember you can
#831 [12:07] <DylanCl> No
#832 [12:07] <Necrodoom> maybe try that
#833 [12:07] <Selbram> I think all the bug reports were closed because it will be fixed when it gets updated.
#834 [12:07] <DylanCl> But usually F11 is fullscren
#835 [12:07] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, "Why didn't you report the bug to the LWJGL people? The weird thing is that it is temporarily fixed, when pressing F11. So I assumed it was a bug in Minecraft."
#836 [12:07] <Selbram> Grum tested the heck out of it :)
#837 [12:08] <Lord_Ralex> so worth a shot a shot i guess?
#838 [12:08] <kage_> i run a mac
#839 [12:08] <DylanCl> Didn't work for me... >.<
#840 [12:08] <DylanCl> Sorry if I'm annoying you with my stupid problem
#841 [12:08] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, then yeah....
#842 [12:08] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, not really stupid
#843 [12:08] <Selbram> DylanCl, not stupid
#844 [12:08] <Lord_Ralex> just sucks that you have a bug that is not really fixable
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#846 [12:09] <Selbram> yet
#847 [12:09] <DylanCl> Yeah
#848 [12:09] <rotorwife> when i click on it, it flashes so fast there is nothing i can do with it
#849 [12:09] <DylanCl> I'll try to look for some mods that allow it
#850 [12:09] <Lord_Ralex> rotorwife, right click, select edit
#851 [12:09] <Lord_Ralex> add a line with just: pause
#852 [12:09] <Lord_Ralex> to the end of the file
#853 [12:09] <Lord_Ralex> then save, close, and double click it
#854 [12:09] <DylanCl> Ralex, do you know anything of linux coding?
#855 [12:09] <Lord_Ralex> nope
#856 [12:10] <DylanCl> Anybody else that does know linux coding?
#857 [12:10] <DylanCl> Hmm
#858 [12:11] <DylanCl> Maybe it's in my ubuntu keyboard settings
#859 [12:12] <rotorwife> ok, i hope i have the right report. where do i paste it?
#860 [12:13] <Lord_Ralex> ??> rotorwife pastebin
#861 [12:13] <VoxelHead> rotorwife: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#862 [12:14] <DylanCl> I give up.
#863 [12:14] <DylanCl> Nothing is working
#864 [12:14] <DylanCl> Time to look for mods that allow inventory shortcuts or something like that
#865 [12:14] <rotorwife> http://pastebin.com/bBXBvhvs
#866 [12:14] <DylanCl> Ralex, any suggestions?
#867 [12:15] <rotorwife> hoping this is what you are looking for.... im so done with this...
#868 [12:15] <Lord_Ralex> DylanCl, nope
#869 [12:15] <Lord_Ralex> rotorwife, that is not what we need
#870 [12:15] <Lord_Ralex> when you ran the bat file, did it open minecraft?
#871 [12:17] <rotorwife> no, just flashed a black dialog box for a split sec and was gone
#872 [12:18] <Lord_Ralex> the pause needs to be on a new line in the bat file
#873 [12:18] <Lord_Ralex> like this: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=eNSXntnL
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#875 [12:19] <Selbram> DylanCl, not a great suggestion, but you could get a qwerty keyboard
#876 [12:19] <DylanCl> I'm on a laptop
#877 [12:19] <DylanCl> So that's not going to work
#878 [12:19] <DylanCl> All the keyboards in my house are azerty keyboards
#879 [12:19] <Selbram> usb keyboard?
#880 [12:19] <DylanCl> and honestly, it really isn't bothering me THAT much to get a new keyboard
#881 [12:20] <Selbram> heh
#882 [12:20] <Selbram> sorry you are having troubles, this is one of the more annoying bugs not directly minecrafts fault
#883 [12:21] <DylanCl> I don't blame anybody
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#887 [12:24] <Calinou> Selbram: telling people to change keyboard layout, lol
#888 [12:24] <Calinou> DylanCl: google "xmodmap" :P
#889 [12:24] <Calinou> xmodmap lets you "swap" keys somehow
#890 [12:24] <Selbram> I said it was not a great suggestion :)
#891 [12:24] <Calinou> eg. make a Z act like a X
#892 [12:24] <DylanCl> Is it hard to set up?
#893 [12:24] <Calinou> depends; this is why I said to google it
#894 [12:24] <DylanCl> I went to the page
#895 [12:24] <Calinou> as in, I can't explain it in a few lines, and it is layout dependant
#896 [12:24] <DylanCl> and it looked like a pain to set up
#897 [12:25] <Calinou> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xmodmap
#898 [12:25] <Selbram> lol
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#900 [12:27] <rotorwife> pastebin address again?
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#904 [12:28] <worldmc> pastebin.com
#905 [12:29] <rotorwife> nvm, got it http://pastebin.com/FbF4h4mS
#906 [12:29] <rotorwife> brb
#907 [12:30] <worldmc> okay never seen that
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#910 [12:30] <worldmc> Lord_Ralex, you gave the win error bat a try?
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#912 [12:34] <Lord_Ralex> worldmc, nope
#913 [12:34] <worldmc> i saw you put something together :) you have any idea on how it didnt have acces with your script?
#914 [12:35] <Lord_Ralex> the path it showed is bad
#915 [12:36] <Lord_Ralex> should have been the dir the exe is in, not the system32
#916 [12:36] <worldmc> find this funny C:\Program Files/Java/jre7/bin/java
#917 [12:36] <worldmc> \/
#918 [12:36] <Lord_Ralex> it works though
#919 [12:37] <worldmc> does it ?
#920 [12:37] <Lord_Ralex> yes
#921 [12:37] <Lord_Ralex> just tried
#922 [12:37] <Lord_Ralex> although my C: is actually Z:, but yeah, it works
#923 [12:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> partitions on windows?
#924 [12:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> dangerous
#925 [12:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> :P
#926 [12:37] <Lord_Ralex> ignoring the symlinks i have in Program Files >_> <_<
#927 [12:38] <worldmc> well if interested ??< win/errortest
#928 [12:38] <worldmc> found that on the forums and the bot didnt have it yet
#929 [12:38] <rotorwife> ok, im back... any news?
#930 [12:38] <Lord_Ralex> rotorwife, how are you running that file?
#931 [12:39] <Lord_Ralex> it is running in a way it should not be
#932 [12:40] <rotorwife> exactly as the instructions indicate.... just my luck...
#933 [12:41] <rotorwife> is it best for me to uninstall, repurchase, and start over? My time is def worth the $ even if I lose my progress
#934 [12:41] <worldmc> no
#935 [12:41] <worldmc> 1. you dont have to repurchase
#936 [12:41] <worldmc> second i want you to try this one
#937 [12:42] <worldmc> ??> rotorwife win/errortest
#938 [12:42] <VoxelHead> rotorwife: (win/errortest) An advanced Minecraft error test can be found at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1383256-advanced-minecraft-error-test/
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#940 [12:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> rotorwife: also repurchasing likely won't fix whatever problem you're having
#941 [12:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> it's a problem local to your pc, not to minecraft
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#943 [12:46] <xales> rotorwife: The problem is most likely that, when you restored your PC, the proper drivers for your hardware were not reinstalled.
#944 [12:46] <rotorwife> http://pastebin.com/G5nfv1xZ
#945 [12:46] <xales> If you happen to know anyone that works with computers (IT department, programmer, etc) my suggestion would be to ask them to help you install all of the drivers your computer needs to funtion properly.
#946 [12:46] <rotorwife> the new report from the bitly link you gave
#947 [12:46] <xales> Alternatively, we can try to help you find the specific one that you need to get Minecraft to work, but your computer might have other, unrelated problems as well.
#948 [12:46] <rotorwife> ugh....thats just rotten....
#949 [12:47] <rotorwife> i had to restore from a date prior to my MC download.. perhaps try a later restore point now?
#950 [12:48] <xales> You could try that, sure.
#951 [12:48] <xales> If you're having some sort of computer problem that is requiring you to restore it though, it's probably better to reformat it (and to pay someone to do that properly for you if you don't know how to)
#952 [12:48] <xales> And the benefit of that is they could help you get Minecraft working as well.
#953 [12:49] <rotorwife> ill let yall look at my latest report, if nothing turns up there, ill do a second restore
#954 [12:49] <xales> Report doesn't mean much - it's almost certainly a driver problem.
#955 [12:49] <xales> Try this, first:
#956 [12:49] <xales> ??> rotorwife gpu/intel
#957 [12:49] <VoxelHead> rotorwife: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#958 [12:49] <xales> Use the "Driver Update Utility"
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#960 [12:51] <rotorwife> it failed
#961 [12:51] <rotorwife> will try restore for now, then call someone if need be
#962 [12:51] <rotorwife> thanks for helping yall
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#964 [12:52] <xales> Err, if that failed, there's probably a pretty serious issue with the computer (unless the "failure" was "you need to download the driver from Toshiba" which happens sometimes)
#965 [12:52] <xales> bleh.
#966 [12:52] <xales> anyway bbl
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#973 [13:02] <_REI_> hello everyone
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#976 [13:04] <_REI_> can some help me? i tried to download the mincraft.zip from minecraft.net but my macosx (10.8) is not able to run the extractet files from this archive
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#979 [13:06] <Selbram> save the file as minecraft.jar
#980 [13:07] <Selbram> and open with java
#981 [13:08] <_REI_> download the minecraft.jar or change the suffix of the zip-file to *,jar?
#982 [13:08] <Morrolan> _REI_ - What happens when you try to launch the .app file?
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#984 [13:09] <_REI_> @Morrolan it sais the file is damaged and gives me the advise to delete it
#985 [13:09] <Lutzee> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#986 [13:09] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#987 [13:09] <Morrolan> That is a new security feature, "Gatekeeper", being over-sensitive.
#988 [13:09] <Lutzee> ?? mac/gatekeeper/disable
#989 [13:09] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper/disable: If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#990 [13:09] <Morrolan> Lutzee - I don't believe the ctrl-click ever worked for anyone.
#991 [13:09] <Lutzee> I'm waiting for it to be changed back..
#992 [13:10] <_REI_> gatekeeper? its like a firewall for non-apple-apps?
#993 [13:10] <Lutzee> Pretty much
#994 [13:11] <Calinou> w a l l e d g a r d e n s
#995 [13:11] <Morrolan> Mhm. It /should/ show you a "This application is not signed by a trusted developer" message.
#996 [13:11] <Calinou> nope, it says "it is broken"
#997 [13:11] <Morrolan> However, someone fowled up, and it now believes that the file is "corrupted"
#998 [13:11] <Calinou> v�ridique (no italic on IRC D:)
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#1000 [13:11] <_REI_> no the message said the file is broke and can it can not run this file
#1001 [13:12] <sjshdbd> how do I know if my video card is big enough for minecraft?
#1002 [13:12] <_REI_> no message like "this is not an apple-app"
#1003 [13:12] <Lutzee> _REI_: just set gatekeeper to allow apps from anywhere and you should be able to run it
#1004 [13:12] <sjshdbd> "I keep getting a "video card error when I try to install?
#1005 [13:13] <Calinou> ??> sjshdbd win/dxdiag
#1006 [13:13] <VoxelHead> sjshdbd: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1007 [13:13] <VoxelHead> sjshdbd: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1008 [13:13] <Calinou> protip: nvidia and AMD both sell shit cards
#1009 [13:13] <_REI_> how can i disable this gatekeeper? or maybe give the keeper a lesson to learn what is good? ^^
#1010 [13:13] <Calinou> like, the 710M :D
#1011 [13:13] <Morrolan> _REI_ - Follow the instructions in that factoid which VoxelHead linked you to.
#1012 [13:13] <Morrolan> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#1013 [13:13] <Morrolan> Second-ish paragraph.
#1014 [13:14] <Morrolan> You'll want to tell it to "Allow applications downloaded from: Anywhere"
#1015 [13:14] <sjshdbd> radeon x300/x550/x1050 series
#1016 [13:14] <Calinou> lul
#1017 [13:14] <Calinou> not only they're old as hell, they're not that fast
#1018 [13:14] <Calinou> sjshdbd: try updating your drivers
#1019 [13:14] <Calinou> you'll need legacy ones 8)
#1020 [13:15] <soo> I have mac os x 10.8 and have disabled gatekeeper and download minecraft and what I launched it is ask me to log in, then said log in failed, not downloaded.
#1021 [13:15] <Calinou> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1022 [13:15] <Calinou> try using the .jar launcher
#1023 [13:15] <Calinou> (run it with java)
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#1027 [13:17] <sjshdbd> http://pastebin.com/ffsgSvkW
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#1029 [13:17] <sjshdbd> my drivers are updated and working properly
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#1031 [13:18] <_REI_> great - now minecraft can be startet - thanks to everyone for the help
#1032 [13:20] <Calinou> no problem
#1033 [13:20] <Calinou> lul, dell :)
#1034 [13:20] <soo> I try to log in and it failed again that let me play off line and then i got another error it failed to start
#1035 [13:20] <Calinou> sjshdbd: probably won't be enough to play minecraft
#1036 [13:20] <Calinou> you need a fairly good computer to play it, and on max settings it's worse
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#1038 [13:20] <sjshdbd> great can I get a refund since it wouldn't download?
#1039 [13:21] <Calinou> theorically: nope, it is your responsability to check your hardware
#1040 [13:21] <Calinou> you can always try asking (see help.mojang.com)
#1041 [13:21] <Lord_Ralex> ??> sjshdbd refund
#1042 [13:21] <Mikko_blu> ??< sjshdbd refund
#1043 [13:21] <VoxelHead> sjshdbd: (refund) This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#1044 [13:21] <Mikko_blu> ninja
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#1049 [13:27] <sjshdbd> thanks everyone, my kids are bummed but for now maybe I can at least get my money back
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#1051 [13:30] <worldmc> Mikko_blu, next time try ??> instead of ??<
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#1053 [13:30] <Mikko_blu> yeah i know
#1054 [13:30] <Mikko_blu> i always get confused
#1055 [13:31] <Elystus> always have the arrow facing away from you
#1056 [13:31] <Elystus> think of the arrow as a razor blade
#1057 [13:31] <Elystus> never place it towards you
#1058 [13:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou: wat, a machine with 4g ram, 2ghz processor and amd gfx card wont run mc?
#1059 [13:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> that machine was fine for it
#1060 [13:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> maybe not on max settings
#1061 [13:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> but with normal view range
#1062 [13:32] <Elystus> dxdiag?
#1063 [13:32] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: amount of RAM has nothing to do with performance, CPU GHZ too and gfx card brand
#1064 [13:33] <Calinou> HD5450 sucks, HD7970 rocks for example
#1065 [13:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> you dont need a 7000 series to play mc
#1066 [13:33] <Calinou> and 4GB of RAM on a shit machine = useless, only useful to prevent swapping
#1067 [13:33] <Elystus> hd5450 will still run it well though
#1068 [13:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> i know that
#1069 [13:33] <Calinou> and processor? my 3.4ghz quadcore CPU pwns the FX-8350 yet it has 8 cores and 4ghz
#1070 [13:33] <Calinou> (especially in monothread use)
#1071 [13:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm
#1072 [13:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> it seems it has 128mb memory
#1073 [13:35] <Calinou> Elystus: low end dedicated GPUs are scams 8)
#1074 [13:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> the x1050
#1075 [13:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> that...isnt a lot
#1076 [13:35] <Calinou> and VRAM is a commercial argument today
#1077 [13:35] <Calinou> my GTX570 (1280MB) pwns a 630M (2048MB)
#1078 [13:35] <Calinou> by far
#1079 [13:35] <Calinou> like, 3-4 times
#1080 [13:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> sure, but 128mb isnt going to get you very far no matter how good a quality the gpu is :p
#1081 [13:36] <Calinou> yeah
#1082 [13:36] <Calinou> especially with large screens and AA
#1083 [13:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> i just assumed because it was a gpu from a proper gpu manufacturer it would be legit
#1084 [13:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> apparently not
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#1086 [13:41] <rotorwife> ok, im back
#1087 [13:41] <rotorwife> have done system restore again and now minecraft wont even run
#1088 [13:41] <rotorwife> really frustrated here
#1089 [13:41] <rotorwife> not one prob with my pc prior to loading MC
#1090 [13:41] <rotorwife> now i've crashed and had to restore twice
#1091 [13:42] <rotorwife> how can i play the game i payed for?
#1092 [13:43] <rotorwife> is anyone here?
#1093 [13:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> rotorwife patience
#1094 [13:45] <VoxelHead> rotorwife: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1095 [13:45] <VoxelHead> rotorwife: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#1096 [13:46] <rotorwife> i dont need instant answers, there was 0 activity, was making sure I was running.... two sides, every coin
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#1098 [13:46] <piousminion> Is there an issue with #minecraft? I'm getting "Cannot send to channel".
#1099 [13:47] <Calinou> piousminion: register with nickserv to talk there
#1100 [13:47] <Calinou> /ns register <password> <email>
#1101 [13:47] <Calinou> then check your email
#1102 [13:47] <piousminion> Calinou: my nick is both registerd and identified.
#1103 [13:48] <Calinou> then you got muted for some reason
#1104 [13:48] <Calinou> no, you are not logged in
#1105 [13:48] <piousminion> I haven't been in there in over 6 months.
#1106 [13:48] <Calinou> /whois piousminion
#1107 [13:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> piousminion: /ns identify <password>
#1108 [13:50] <piousminion> wth, now it works. nickserv had a hiccup. How can I check if I'm identified in the future?
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#1111 [13:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> piousminion: just set your client up so that it auto identifies when you log in/start it up
#1112 [13:57] <piousminion> WhereIsMySpoon: I have that setup, but I ping out a lot. I had manually identified before enting the room and nickserv confirmed.
#1113 [13:58] <piousminion> Like I said, nickserv had a hiccup or something. :P
#1114 [13:58] <Calinou> /whois piousminion
#1115 [13:58] <Calinou> will tell you :P
#1116 [13:58] <piousminion> I did that. What am I looking for?
#1117 [14:00] <Morrolan> "piousminion is authenticated as piousminion"
#1118 [14:01] <piousminion> I don't get that.
#1119 [14:01] <Morrolan> <nickname> is authenticated as <nickserv account>
#1120 [14:01] <Morrolan> /whois voxelhead, for example
#1121 [14:02] <piousminion> I understand, but when I do "/whois piousminion" it mentions nothing about authentication.
#1122 [14:02] <Morrolan> Eh?
#1123 [14:02] <Morrolan> Then your client surpresses that information.
#1124 [14:02] <piousminion> odd
#1125 [14:02] <Morrolan> Quite.
#1126 [14:02] <piousminion> I'm using irssi. You'd think it would display every last detail.
#1127 [14:02] * Morrolan snrks
#1127 [14:04] <Morrolan> '/who piousminion %a' should also be possible.
#1128 [14:04] <Morrolan> Will return the nickserv account if you are logged in, and '0' otherwise.
#1129 [14:05] <piousminion> There is no such nick %a
#1130 [14:05] <piousminion> er, /who != /whois
#1131 [14:05] <Morrolan> Indeed.
#1132 [14:06] <piousminion> brb, rebooting
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#1136 [14:16] <Shiro> Hello all :3
#1137 [14:16] <Shiro> Anyone can help me with a small minecraft connect problem?
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#1140 [14:18] <mattym> What the problem?
#1141 [14:18] <mattym> What is*
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#1143 [14:18] <Shiro> well i know the server is online but it keeps telling me "cant reach server"
#1144 [14:18] <mattym> whats the server address?
#1145 [14:18] <Shiro> and i am able to connect to other servers
#1146 [14:18] <Shiro> skywars.co
#1147 [14:18] <Shiro> i am 100% sure its online
#1148 [14:18] <mattym> !check skywars.co
#1149 [14:19] <mattym> ok it looks like the server is all set up and functioning
#1150 [14:19] <Shiro> yea :3
#1151 [14:19] <mattym> Can you double check to make sure that your firewall and antivirus arent blocking minecraft or java
#1152 [14:20] <Shiro> i checked that, turned them down
#1153 [14:20] <Shiro> but it only apply's to 3 servers
#1154 [14:20] <Shiro> and i can connect to everything els
#1155 [14:20] <mattym> Have you been able to access those 3 before?
#1156 [14:20] <Shiro> yea
#1157 [14:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> Shiro: have you tried just connecting to it
#1158 [14:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> sometimes the server list will say that but its fine
#1159 [14:20] <Shiro> i tryed
#1160 [14:21] <Shiro> then it will say : connection timed out : connect
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#1164 [14:23] <mattym> Shiro you WHOIS information tells me you are in the Netherlands is that correct?
#1165 [14:23] <Shiro> correct
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#1167 [14:23] <mattym> Is there anything that would block you from accessing a US server, where skylands is hosted
#1168 [14:23] <Shiro> nope i can go on servers from the same hoster
#1169 [14:23] <Shiro> like wallsmc.com
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#1174 [14:24] <mattym> Are you using a modded minecraft?
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#1176 [14:24] <Shiro> im using rei's map
#1177 [14:24] <Shiro> but i tryed to reinstall
#1178 [14:25] <mattym> can you revert to a clean copy of minecraft and try to get onto the server?
#1179 [14:25] <gharmon> i just installed better than wolves mod so that i can host my own server. i played on my friends and liked it so when i tried doing my own, after everything was installed and put into the right folders, when i opened minecraft it crashed?
#1180 [14:25] <gharmon> i have the report if needed
#1181 [14:25] <mattym> gharmon we dont handle mod related support in this channel
#1182 [14:26] <Shiro> i did the forced update mattym
#1183 [14:26] <gharmon> figured it was more so to do with the fact that my minecraft crashed, not the mod
#1184 [14:26] <mattym> best bet would be to take that error log to the forum post or page for that mod
#1185 [14:26] <gharmon> i was just explaining
#1186 [14:26] <EpicNoob> I need some help, I have been trying to load a texture pack called modern times that I got from PMC. I downloaded successfully MCpatcher, but that's as far as I can get. I read all about copying to this folder and access that folder and winrar. Is there someone that can tell me what I'm doing wrong?
#1187 [14:26] <gharmon> okay
#1188 [14:26] <mattym> mods cant crash on their own, it always shows the crash from MC
#1189 [14:27] <mattym> Shiro and that didnt help any with those servers?
#1190 [14:27] <Shiro> nope
#1191 [14:27] <Shiro> but somehow i cant ping it with cmd as well
#1192 [14:27] <Shiro> <_<
#1193 [14:27] <mattym> EpicNoob We dont handle mod related support, and yes anything to do with MCPatcher is mod related
#1194 [14:27] <Shiro> gives me a time out
#1195 [14:27] <mattym> Shiro ok
#1196 [14:28] <mattym> That most likely means that there is an internet interruption between you and the server
#1197 [14:28] <EpicNoob> ok, thank you.
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#1199 [14:28] <Shiro> got anny idea how thats possible?
#1200 [14:28] <Shiro> because it just happend 3 days ago
#1201 [14:28] <Shiro> out of the blue
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#1203 [14:29] <mattym> It can be anything from a power outage at one of the service providers, to a monkey playing with the connection wires
#1204 [14:29] <Shiro> <_<
#1205 [14:29] <mattym> If you cant reach a specific server it means that somewhere between you and it there is a problem, not much you can personally do about that
#1206 [14:30] <Shiro> you got not 1 clue what it might be?
#1207 [14:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> well it could just be because the server turned ping responses off
#1208 [14:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> "i cant ping it" != its dead
#1209 [14:30] <ThatJewishPig> i need some minecraft related math help please
#1210 [14:30] <ThatJewishPig> http://i.imgur.com/0Q7fjIZ.png. the straight lines are 50 blocks long. the diagonals are 25 blocks long. what it the area of the octagon?
#1211 [14:31] <Shiro> sould i upload a picture of my server list? xD
#1212 [14:31] <Shiro> so you can see whats going on? :D
#1213 [14:31] <mattym> WhereIsMySpoon the server is fine, i CAN ping it, that measn there is an issue between Shiro and the server
#1214 [14:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> ThatJewishPig: why dont you google "area of octagon"
#1215 [14:32] <mattym> Depends ThatJewishPig did you cross any of the 0 axis?
#1216 [14:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> because that would be exactly what i would do
#1217 [14:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> as i dont keep the formula for it in my head
#1218 [14:32] <Shiro> well the funnyest thing is if i use a diffrent ip it shows up all the data from skywars.co but if i connect it i end up in a empty server
#1219 [14:32] <Shiro> but there are 50 guys online
#1220 [14:33] <ThatJewishPig> lol perfect. i spend 10 minutes racking my brain trying to work out the areas of the trapeziums then i join this channel and get the answer in 2 :/
#1221 [14:33] <ThatJewishPig> welp, thanks
#1222 [14:33] <Shiro> !check nxmc.org
#1223 [14:33] <mattym> Shiro 108.61.35.149 is the IP i have for skywars, have you tried a direct connect with that?
#1224 [14:33] <ThatJewishPig> the answer is 12,071.07 though
#1225 [14:33] <Shiro> lets see
#1226 [14:34] <worldmc> lol pig
#1227 [14:34] <Shiro> nope
#1228 [14:34] <Shiro> doesnt work
#1229 [14:34] <Shiro> well the shitty part is that im a admin on that server xD
#1230 [14:34] <Shiro> so il probebly have to go talk to the owner then xD
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#1232 [14:35] <mattym> Yeah, it would appear there is a dead link between your ISP and the server
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#1234 [14:35] <Shiro> well i get the problem maybe
#1235 [14:36] <Shiro> because if i use a proxy from arround my area
#1236 [14:36] <Shiro> i am able to connect to it
#1237 [14:36] <Shiro> so the server might be rejecting my ip
#1238 [14:36] <mattym> yeah, then what is said is the case for sure
#1239 [14:36] <Shiro> i think so
#1240 [14:36] <Shiro> and if not then its on my side somewhere :S
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#1242 [14:37] <TheNoodle> Traceroute time
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#1255 [14:48] <andrew> I downloaded the program but when i open it is not logging in whith my usre or pass word that i did.and also i do not have a button to launch next time.please help i need speak by phone with someone.
#1256 [14:48] <Lutzee> andrew: use your email address to log in
#1257 [14:49] <andrew> i have but does not work
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#1259 [14:52] <andrew> i just did but it fail again
#1260 [14:52] <mattym> andrew try turning off your firewall or antivirus software, too see if they may be blocking it
#1261 [14:54] <SladetheHusky> Hello support! I was wondering if you guys could help me today on a certain issue in regards to voting on servers. The voting website says that my account is not paid where in-fact it actually is paid for. I sent them an email and they replied to me saying to contact you and fix your "haspaid.jsp" utility. If you guys could help me resolve this issue that would be awesome. Thank you!
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#1263 [14:55] <mattym> SladetheHusky Voting?
#1264 [14:55] <SladetheHusky> Yes
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#1266 [14:56] <andrew> the user and pass word work at the minecraft.net loggin area support.but does not work at minecraft launcher program.
#1267 [14:56] <SladetheHusky> This specific website was minestatus.net
#1268 [14:56] <mattym> Is that like a 3rd party thing, cause we really only deal with minecraft tech problems
#1269 [14:56] <SladetheHusky> Well they said to talk to you guys about this issue. Theres obviously a verification issue.
#1270 [14:56] <mattym> andrew did you check your firewall/antivirus like i said
#1271 [14:57] <andrew> yes
#1272 [14:57] <mattym> SladetheHusky if they told you to talk to us, then there is something wrong because we are not the support channel for minestatus.net
#1273 [14:58] <Lord_Ralex> SladetheHusky, the haspaid is provided though Mojang, we have no control over it
#1274 [14:58] <mattym> andrew you keep saying username, are you trying to sign in with your username or your password
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#1276 [14:58] <andrew> well do they have a phone # to call.
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#1278 [14:58] <lucy_> uhm
#1279 [14:58] <lucy_> hi
#1280 [14:58] <mattym> andrew No
#1281 [14:58] <lucy_> my minecraft is lagging
#1282 [14:59] <lucy_> how do i fix it
#1283 [14:59] <mattym> lucy_ How do you mean?
#1284 [14:59] <SladetheHusky> Ah, I see. Is there anyway to fix this haspaid utility? If so. Where do I go, on the website. If you can answer me that of course.
#1285 [14:59] <lucy_> when im playing the demo
#1286 [14:59] <Lord_Ralex> SladetheHusky, it does not need fixing
#1287 [14:59] <lucy_> i cant even move
#1288 [14:59] <Lord_Ralex> SladetheHusky, do you have a mojang account?
#1289 [14:59] <SladetheHusky> Yes, I do.
#1290 [14:59] <lucy_> it kinda freezes
#1291 [14:59] <mattym> lucy_ are you still in the same spot where you started?
#1292 [14:59] <Lord_Ralex> SladetheHusky, please log in to http://account.mojang.com/me and say what it shows
#1293 [15:00] <lucy_> yes
#1294 [15:00] <SladetheHusky> It shows the current games that I own. Which is Minecraft.
#1295 [15:00] <andrew> have many peaple are helpping me.
#1296 [15:00] <Lord_Ralex> SladetheHusky, and what username?
#1297 [15:00] <mattym> lucy_ try to break the block that is below you, the one you are standing on
#1298 [15:00] <SladetheHusky> SladetheHusky as my username
#1299 [15:00] <Lord_Ralex> SladetheHusky, the haspaid shows you did pay
#1300 [15:00] <Lord_Ralex> as it should
#1301 [15:01] <lucy_> i cant
#1302 [15:01] <lucy_> i cant even move
#1303 [15:01] <lucy_> ..
#1304 [15:01] <mattym> andrew when you are trying to log in with the Launcher are you using your email where it says username?
#1305 [15:01] <mattym> lucy_ What OS and what Browser are you using it on?
#1306 [15:01] <andrew> yes mattym.
#1307 [15:01] <Lord_Ralex> SladetheHusky, any issue that their site has is on them with this, it works as it should, if it is not saying you paid, it is their problem
#1308 [15:02] <lucy_> internet explorer
#1309 [15:02] <mattym> andrew then try redownloading the launcher
#1310 [15:02] <lucy_> i dont know what you mean with "OS"
#1311 [15:02] <mattym> lucy_ try a different web browser, Chrome or Firefox
#1312 [15:02] <SladetheHusky> The error included with it saying that my account has not paid says that it can also be minecraft.net acting up.
#1313 [15:02] <Lord_Ralex> SladetheHusky, it says you paid, as it should
#1314 [15:02] <Lord_Ralex> so it is their issue
#1315 [15:03] <lucy_> does my internet explorer disapear if im downloading for example firefox?
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#1317 [15:03] <TheNoodle> Wait, can someone recap SladetheHusky for me? :P
#1318 [15:03] <mattym> No
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#1320 [15:03] <kernymi> might be something with their server :3
#1321 [15:03] <SladetheHusky> Alright then, thank you for your time.
#1322 [15:03] <lucy_> wich should i download?
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#1324 [15:03] <Lord_Ralex> If they are saying it is not working, that is their problem
#1325 [15:03] <andrew> ok i got the card at game stop,you think they could help with this issue.
#1326 [15:03] <mattym> TheNoodle Recap, its not our problem, he needs to contact the support for another site
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#1328 [15:04] <TheNoodle> I know mattym im from minestatus.net.
#1329 [15:04] <mattym> andrew no, what is your username for the game
#1330 [15:04] <Lord_Ralex> TheNoodle, says site said he did not pay
#1331 [15:04] <Lord_Ralex> support told them it was the haspaid too
#1332 [15:04] <Lord_Ralex> tool*
#1333 [15:04] <mattym> lucy_ Its up to you
#1334 [15:04] <lucy_> can i delete firefox/chrome afterwards? x(
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#1336 [15:05] <andrew> ar8803@gmail.com -mattym
#1337 [15:05] <Lord_Ralex> ?? fubar/ie
#1338 [15:05] <lucy_> or is it going to stay there forever
#1339 [15:05] <Lord_Ralex> gah
#1340 [15:05] <Lord_Ralex> ??< index
#1341 [15:05] <lucy_> im new at this x(
#1342 [15:05] <Lord_Ralex> ?? win/ie
#1343 [15:05] <VoxelHead> win/ie: Internet Exploder^WExploiter^WExplorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#1344 [15:05] <VoxelHead> win/ie: Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome
#1345 [15:05] <mattym> lucy_ Yes you can, but the demo wont work well in IE
#1346 [15:05] <mattym> nor will a lot of other things
#1347 [15:06] <mattym> Lord_Ralex it really should be in the fubar list
#1348 [15:06] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, that is why i do fubar every time >_>
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#1350 [15:06] <lucy_> im going to buy the full version and im going to download it but no today! And how am i going to do when im playing online?
#1351 [15:07] <mattym> in the full version with the launcher your browser wont matter
#1352 [15:07] <mattym> as long as you can get the demo working somewhere the full version should work
#1353 [15:07] <lucy_> are you sure?
#1354 [15:07] <andrew> mattym-when i download the program and run it,i should have a desktop launcher to play the game?
#1355 [15:08] <mattym> andrew yes, well it depends on where you put the file you downloaded
#1356 [15:08] <lasthunterr> I got a pre-paid card and downloaded it to my account but I had to change accounts. How do i move the pre-paid cards game to my knew account
#1357 [15:08] <mattym> lucy_ I am sure, but i also said "should"
#1358 [15:08] <lucy_> how do i delete firefox
#1359 [15:08] <lasthunterr> uninstal it
#1360 [15:08] <lucy_> how?? x)
#1361 [15:08] <Lord_Ralex> lasthunterr, once you redeem the card, it is tied to that account
#1362 [15:09] <lasthunterr> ok
#1363 [15:09] <lasthunterr> the start menu
#1364 [15:09] <lucy_> first am i going to download it instead of talking
#1365 [15:09] <mattym> lucy_ Are you on windows 7?
#1366 [15:09] <lucy_> i have
#1367 [15:09] <andrew> ok mattym thanks 4 your help.
#1368 [15:09] <lucy_> lemme check
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#1370 [15:10] <lucy_> windows vista business
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#1373 [15:11] <mattym> ok when you want to uninstall you will have to go into control panel, and find something called Add/Remove Programs, that will let you get rid of Firefox if or when you want to
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#1375 [15:12] <lasthunterr> is google chrome better to have to play minecraft
#1376 [15:12] <lucy_> ok thanks :)
#1377 [15:13] <mattym> lasthunterr If you own the game already, its best played with the launcher
#1378 [15:13] <lasthunterr> kk
#1379 [15:14] <lucy_> im just afraid if i'll create virus :(
#1380 [15:14] <mattym> The Demo is limited to the browser, and Firefox and Chrome handle it just about as well as each other, as long as all the other related software is up to date
#1381 [15:14] <lasthunterr> why buy minecraft when you can get the full version onine for free
#1382 [15:14] <lucy_> by doing something stupid
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#1384 [15:14] <mattym> lasthunterr say that in here anymore and you will be removed
#1385 [15:14] <lasthunterr> ok
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#1387 [15:15] <mattym> lucy_ Downloading firefox and using minecraft shouldnt put you in the way of any viruses
#1388 [15:15] <lucy_> should i save or open the file?
#1389 [15:15] <mattym> either,
#1390 [15:16] <mattym> open will be faster and require me to explain less
#1391 [15:16] <lucy_> ok
#1392 [15:16] <Zachariah> I have 2 premium accounts and 2 computers in the same house we can connect through the serversbut intenet is being spotty today is there some way to connect the 2 computers with an ISB cord and play?
#1393 [15:16] <mattym> Zachariah Not that way
#1394 [15:16] <mattym> are you both on the same router?
#1395 [15:16] <Zachariah> yes
#1396 [15:17] <mattym> Then you should be able to play a Lan game with the two computers
#1397 [15:17] <Zachariah> laptops with wireless access
#1398 [15:17] <Zachariah> we do but everytime the internet hiccups I get kicked
#1399 [15:18] <mattym> Internet has nothing to do with a LAN game, do you mean your wireless network is spotty?
#1400 [15:18] <lucy_> OMG IM SCARED
#1401 [15:18] <lucy_> i have never ever EVER done this
#1402 [15:18] <lucy_> O:
#1403 [15:18] <Zachariah> am guessing that is what it is
#1404 [15:18] <Zachariah> would a ISB cord fix this issue?
#1405 [15:19] <mattym> Nothing much you can do but get better wireless, or connect both laptops to the router with ethernet cables
#1406 [15:19] <mattym> ISB?
#1407 [15:19] <Zachariah> so putting them together with a ISB cord wouldn't work?
#1408 [15:19] <mattym> lucy_ do you maybe need an adult?
#1409 [15:19] <lucy_> should i use the standard or the custom install thing
#1410 [15:19] <mattym> Zachariah do you mean USB?
#1411 [15:19] <Zachariah> thats it
#1412 [15:19] <Zachariah> sorry
#1413 [15:20] <mattym> standard lucy_
#1414 [15:20] <mattym> Zachariah No, that wont work
#1415 [15:20] <Zachariah> hmmm
#1416 [15:21] <mattym> Do you have ethernet cables?
#1417 [15:21] <Zachariah> so no way to tie the two together to fix the issue?
#1418 [15:21] <Zachariah> can buy em
#1419 [15:21] <mattym> If you both plug yourselfs into the router, you can play on LAN without the wifi
#1420 [15:21] <lucy_> use firefox as your default browser
#1421 [15:21] <lucy_> ?
#1422 [15:21] <mattym> no
#1423 [15:22] <lucy_> no?
#1424 [15:22] <mattym> Zachariah but if its your router in general that is messing up, not just the wifi then it wont help much
#1425 [15:22] <Zachariah> is what I was just thinkin
#1426 [15:22] <lucy_> why not?
#1427 [15:22] <mattym> lucy_ If you still want to use Internet Explorer, dont set Firefox to default
#1428 [15:22] <lucy_> what happends
#1429 [15:22] <Zachariah> surprised I haven't been kicked yet
#1430 [15:22] <lucy_> ohh ok
#1431 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Zachariah - Why would you need to be kicked?
#1432 [15:23] <mattym> Zachariah wireless isnt really the best for multiplyer games
#1433 [15:23] <lucy_> import pictures etc?
#1434 [15:23] <mattym> hes been having networks issues
#1435 [15:23] <Zachariah> from internet
#1436 [15:23] <lucy_> oh sry
#1437 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#1438 [15:23] <lucy_> passwords etc
#1439 [15:23] <mattym> lucy_ no you dont need to import
#1440 [15:24] <Zachariah> they are doin major construction behind my house and we have been gettin a lot of rain so
#1441 [15:24] <lucy_> i have downloaded it
#1442 [15:24] <mattym> Yeah Zachariah that shoulnt effect LAN games tho, unless they are knocking your power out
#1443 [15:25] <mattym> lucy_ now try the minecraft demo in firefox
#1444 [15:25] <lucy_> it didn't work
#1445 [15:25] <mattym> what do you mean, what didnt work
#1446 [15:25] <lucy_> it's the same
#1447 [15:25] <Zachariah> my main question was if you could play offline with 2 computers but in the same world
#1448 [15:25] <lucy_> problem
#1449 [15:25] <lucy_> i cant move
#1450 [15:25] <lucy_> can't
#1451 [15:25] <mattym> can you look around in the game?
#1452 [15:26] <lucy_> nope
#1453 [15:26] <mattym> what using your mouse
#1454 [15:26] <Zachariah> Lucy di the block out from under you then you should be able to move
#1455 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Zachariah - With two seperate paid for accounts, perhaps.
#1456 [15:26] <Zachariah> they are
#1457 [15:26] <lucy_> i cant look down
#1458 [15:26] <lucy_> i cant even look around
#1459 [15:26] <Zachariah> I bouht 2 at the same time
#1460 [15:26] <mattym> GreyVulpine his issue is that the computers have no steady connection to each other
#1461 [15:27] <Zachariah> yes
#1462 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, nothing we can do about that.
#1463 [15:27] <mattym> lucy_ Do you know if your Java is up to date?
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#1465 [15:28] <mattym> Zachariah how old is the router, do you know?
#1466 [15:28] <Zachariah> not relly
#1467 [15:28] <Zachariah> really
#1468 [15:28] <lucy_> yes
#1469 [15:28] <lucy_> i updated it today
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#1471 [15:28] <Zachariah> ok so I need to just complain to my internet provide
#1472 [15:29] <mattym> lucy_ but you do get into the game, you see the world that it makes correct?
#1473 [15:29] <Zachariah> thanks for the help guys
#1474 [15:29] <lucy_> yes i do
#1475 [15:29] <lucy_> but i cant move
#1476 [15:29] <PerfectDeciet> Whenever i go to one of my worlds my MC crashes, it didnt yesterday and i changed nothing
#1477 [15:30] <mattym> PerfectDeciet Do other worlds work?
#1478 [15:30] <PerfectDeciet> no none'
#1479 [15:30] <Zachariah> later
#1480 [15:30] <mattym> So if you make a new world it crashes?
#1481 [15:30] <PerfectDeciet> i removed my mods and it worked but i need the mods and yesterday they all worked
#1482 [15:31] <lucy_> it laggs when im moving
#1483 [15:31] <lucy_> "freezes"
#1484 [15:31] <mattym> lucy_ The demo has a lot of issues, but the fact that you get this far is a good sign the full version will work, the control issues are easily fixed with a full version
#1485 [15:31] <mattym> PerfectDeciet We dont really diagnose Mod stuff here
#1486 [15:31] <PerfectDeciet> ughh
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#1488 [15:32] <mattym> lucy_ can you try one more thing
#1489 [15:32] <lucy_> yes
#1490 [15:32] <lucy_> what?
#1491 [15:32] <mattym> ??> lucy_ win/.minecraft
#1492 [15:32] <VoxelHead> lucy_: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1493 [15:32] <mattym> follow those instructions ^
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#1495 [15:32] <lucy_> wait wait wait WAIT
#1496 [15:32] <ERT> IED
#1497 [15:32] <ERT> OA'YU
#1498 [15:33] <lucy_> where do i type that?
#1499 [15:33] <ERT> EERRFEG
#1500 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> !k ert
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#1502 [15:33] <mattym> lucy_ do you see the key with the windows symbol between your ctrl and alt
#1503 [15:33] <mattym> hold that down and press the R key
#1504 [15:33] <lucy_> and then
#1505 [15:33] <mattym> a window should pop up and you copy
#1506 [15:34] <mattym> AppData%\.minecraft
#1507 [15:34] <mattym> that ^ into it and press enter
#1508 [15:34] <mattym> wait
#1509 [15:34] <mattym> %AppData%\.minecraft
#1510 [15:34] <mattym> ^ that, sorry type
#1511 [15:34] <mattym> typo*
#1512 [15:35] <lucy_> and then
#1513 [15:35] <mattym> did it open a folder?
#1514 [15:35] <lucy_> yes
#1515 [15:35] <mattym> is there a file Options.txt
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#1517 [15:35] <lucy_> yes
#1518 [15:35] <lucy_> i clicked on it
#1519 [15:35] <mattym> delete that
#1520 [15:35] <lucy_> ok
#1521 [15:35] <lucy_> and then
#1522 [15:35] <mattym> once its deleted, try the demo again
#1523 [15:36] <lucy_> on firefox?
#1524 [15:36] <mattym> preferably
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#1527 [15:37] <lucy_> ...
#1528 [15:37] <lucy_> IT WORKS
#1529 [15:37] <mattym> ok
#1530 [15:37] <lucy_> A LITTLE BETTER
#1531 [15:37] <lucy_> YAAY
#1532 [15:38] <lucy_> it freezes a little bit but it got better
#1533 [15:38] <mattym> the demo version is always a little slow, but you can move around now?
#1534 [15:38] <lucy_> yes!!
#1535 [15:38] <mattym> the only other thing that may help is updating your graphics drivers
#1536 [15:38] <lucy_> :)
#1537 [15:39] <lucy_> i have a dell
#1538 [15:39] <lucy_> and i have looked at it
#1539 [15:39] <lucy_> and i didn't know what to do
#1540 [15:39] <mattym> we can help
#1541 [15:39] <mattym> ??> win/dxdiag
#1542 [15:39] <mattym> ??> lucy_ win/dxdiag
#1543 [15:39] <VoxelHead> lucy_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1544 [15:39] <VoxelHead> lucy_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
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#1546 [15:40] <mattym> kinda the same thing as before ^
#1547 [15:40] <mattym> but with different words
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#1549 [15:40] <lucy_> couldn't find
#1550 [15:40] <lucy_> the "file"
#1551 [15:40] <mattym> read the first line of instructions
#1552 [15:41] <earmarks> just installed minecraft for my son on our pc. minecraft crashes when he is playing. do i have the right system requirements?
#1553 [15:41] <mattym> earmarks give me one second, while you wait make sure your Java is up to date
#1554 [15:41] <mattym> earmarks are you on Windows or Mac?
#1555 [15:42] <earmarks> java was just installed last week
#1556 [15:42] <earmarks> windows
#1557 [15:42] <mattym> ok
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#1559 [15:42] <mattym> does it make a crash report?
#1560 [15:42] <LIAMO> I am unable to open the game after I download it, pf file not supported
#1561 [15:42] <mattym> LIAMO what is the exact error it gives you?
#1562 [15:42] <earmarks> i am not sure. he says it crashes after about 15 minutes
#1563 [15:42] <mattym> ok follow these instructions
#1564 [15:42] <lucy_> am i going to copy the whole text?
#1565 [15:43] <mattym> ??> earmarks win/.minecraft
#1566 [15:43] <VoxelHead> earmarks: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1567 [15:43] <mattym> lucy_ wait one second
#1568 [15:43] <lucy_> ok
#1569 [15:43] <earmarks> we have java 7 version 13
#1570 [15:43] <mattym> earmarks in that folder look for a text file that is a crash report
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#1572 [15:44] <mattym> lucy_ you are going to copy the whole thing to a website, all you need to do is go to http://pastebin.com and paste it into the box provided then hit submit
#1573 [15:44] <lucy_> ok
#1574 [15:44] <mattym> it will take you to a new page, just copy the url and paste the url here
#1575 [15:45] <earmarks> i found the crash reports. shall i copy the whole thing?
#1576 [15:45] <mattym> no
#1577 [15:45] <mattym> do the same thing i just told lucy
#1578 [15:45] <mattym> about pastebin
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#1580 [15:45] <lucy_> oh god that took time
#1581 [15:45] <mattym> yeah
#1582 [15:45] <mattym> its a long file
#1583 [15:46] <lucy_> and then
#1584 [15:46] <shanniz13> yesterday after buying it told me "Purchase Complete! your status will update within an hour but it didnt" can someone change me to premium now
#1585 [15:46] <shanniz13> because it hasnt changes
#1586 [15:46] <mattym> shanniz13 Did you ever get a confirmation email?
#1587 [15:47] <shanniz13> Nothing. It told me what i wrote. and nothing else. Nothing
#1588 [15:47] <mattym> That means the purchase didnt actually complete
#1589 [15:47] <shanniz13> Im afraid to do it agian bcuz it might charge 2 time
#1590 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> shanniz13 - Then your transaction most likely did not complete.
#1591 [15:47] <lucy_> i have submit
#1592 [15:47] <shanniz13> it said it did
#1593 [15:47] <mattym> ok
#1594 [15:47] <earmarks> http://pastebin.com/QMQZvbS8
#1595 [15:47] <mattym> lucy_ copy the adress at the top of that page and paste it here
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#1597 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> shanniz13 - The second page will always display a success message, even immediately following a failure
#1598 [15:47] <lucy_> how
#1599 [15:48] <lucy_> oh
#1600 [15:48] <lucy_> sorry
#1601 [15:48] <LIAMO> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1602 [15:48] <lucy_> i saw it
#1603 [15:48] <lucy_> now
#1604 [15:48] <lucy_> :P
#1605 [15:48] <shanniz13> but transaction went?
#1606 [15:48] <shanniz13> im pretty sure of it
#1607 [15:48] <mattym> earmarks can you do one more thing for me
#1608 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> shanniz13 - You'll need to call your bank or financial institution to confirm, but if you haven't gotten your premium status, nor a confirmation email with a transaction ID, that transaction most likely did not complete successfully
#1609 [15:48] <mattym> ??> earmarks win/dxdiag
#1610 [15:48] <VoxelHead> earmarks: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1611 [15:48] <lucy_> the adress?
#1612 [15:48] <VoxelHead> earmarks: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1613 [15:48] <shanniz13> Ok
#1614 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> shanniz13 - We see this very very often.
#1615 [15:49] <mattym> lucy_ copy the thing that looks like http://pastebin.com/dawedef from the top of your brower to here
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#1617 [15:49] <mattym> browser*
#1618 [15:49] <shanniz13> what if it was a gift card or somethign?
#1619 [15:49] <lucy_> ok, but i gotta tell you something
#1620 [15:49] <lucy_> my laptop doesen't "speak" english
#1621 [15:49] <mattym> thas ok
#1622 [15:50] <lucy_> ok
#1623 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> shanniz13 - Gift cards will generally not work for purchasing minecraft.
#1624 [15:50] <shanniz13> Oh
#1625 [15:50] <shanniz13> thnxs for the help
#1626 [15:50] <lucy_> http://pastebin.com/ad7V5dz5
#1627 [15:50] <earmarks> i have save dxdiag to desktop
#1628 [15:50] <mattym> ok earmarks copy that whole file to a pastebin as well
#1629 [15:50] <lucy_> my laptop "speaks" swedish
#1630 [15:51] <lucy_> that's why i have a bad english
#1631 [15:51] <mattym> lucy_ your english was actually really good compared to most of the people we deal with
#1632 [15:51] <lucy_> thank you :)
#1633 [15:52] <lucy_> im new at this that's why im asking so many questions
#1634 [15:52] <lucy_> if you want to know x)
#1635 [15:52] <mattym> lucy_ you have the best drivers for your graphics, but the graphics hardware is really old, so minecraft will always play slow on that laptop
#1636 [15:52] <lucy_> oh
#1637 [15:52] <lucy_> :(
#1638 [15:52] <lucy_> ok
#1639 [15:52] <lucastars> hey mattym or xales yesterday it was kind of deduced that disabling SLI would fix my OpenGL "lost connection" error however last night after I stopped playing minecraft, I wanted to play other games so I re-enabled SLI. This morning when I turned on my computer I disabled SLI and then started to play minecraft again and my graphics card decided to "white out" both of my monitors and I had to do a hard shut down and turn on my c
#1640 [15:53] <earmarks> can you please tell me how to copy it into the pastebin? the pastebin seems full.
#1641 [15:53] <lucastars> few times and re-enabled SLI to play other games and this afternoon I didn't disable it but I can play minecraft with SLI again
#1642 [15:53] <lucy_> can i like.. update them?
#1643 [15:53] <mattym> lucastars When you have two monitors plugged in and on SLI i blieve there are issue with turning it on and off
#1644 [15:54] <mattym> lucy_ no, i think they are at max
#1645 [15:54] <lucy_> oh :/
#1646 [15:54] <lucy_> so i cant play minecraft
#1647 [15:54] <mattym> earmarks just paste as much as you can
#1648 [15:54] <lucy_> ?
#1649 [15:54] <lucy_> :/
#1650 [15:54] <lucastars> I'm not having a problem right now but for some reason its all "fixed" even though we previously deduced it to be some sort of SLI problem
#1651 [15:54] <mattym> lucy_ you can, but it will always be just about as slow as it is now
#1652 [15:54] <lucastars> and I can play just fine with SLI again just wanted to let you guys know
#1653 [15:55] <mattym> lucastars thanks, well keep that in mind if we see the SLI issue again
#1654 [15:55] <lucy_> ok :/
#1655 [15:55] <lucy_> i have looked at uhm dell's webside
#1656 [15:55] <mattym> lucy_ if you his escape in game then option then video settings
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#1659 [15:55] <mattym> earmarks put as much of it in as you can
#1660 [15:55] <lucy_> wait what did you say
#1661 [15:56] <mattym> Do you still have the demo open?
#1662 [15:56] <lucy_> yes
#1663 [15:56] <mattym> His Esacape, Select Option
#1664 [15:56] <mattym> Hit*
#1665 [15:56] <earmarks> http://pastebin.com/e1J90TfK
#1666 [15:56] <mattym> Then select Video Option/Settings
#1667 [15:56] <earmarks> http://pastebin.com/e1J90TfK
#1668 [15:56] <lucy_> yes
#1669 [15:56] <lucy_> and then
#1670 [15:57] <mattym> earmarks Did you install the 64Bit version of Java?
#1671 [15:57] <mattym> lucy_ make sure that Render Distance is NOT set to Far
#1672 [15:57] <earmarks> I don't know. how can I tell? my son did it!
#1673 [15:57] <lucy_> i changed that
#1674 [15:58] <mattym> lucy_ and make sure that Graphics is set to Fast
#1675 [15:58] <earmarks> i see 32 bit
#1676 [15:58] <mattym> ok one second earmarks
#1677 [15:58] <earmarks> java
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#1679 [15:58] <lucy_> O:
#1680 [15:58] <lucy_> MATTYM
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#1682 [15:58] <lucy_> !!!
#1683 [15:58] <lucy_> MATTYM!!
#1684 [15:58] <lucy_> IT WORKS
#1685 [15:58] <lucy_> THANK YOU
#1686 [15:58] <mattym> ok
#1687 [15:58] <mattym> thats about as good as it will get
#1688 [15:58] <lucy_> THANK YOU SO MUCH
#1689 [15:59] <lucy_> wait wait
#1690 [15:59] <lucy_> i gotta write it down
#1691 [15:59] <lucy_> set graphics on?
#1692 [15:59] <mattym> Fast
#1693 [15:59] <lucy_> and
#1694 [15:59] <mattym> earmarks http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp choose the Windows 64 bit download
#1695 [16:00] <lucy_> what was the other thing that i did
#1696 [16:00] <mattym> and Render Distance to anything that isnt Far
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#1698 [16:01] <lucy_> thanks
#1699 [16:02] <lucy_> im really thankfull
#1700 [16:02] <lucy_> god bless you and have a nice day
#1701 [16:02] <mattym> no problem
#1702 [16:02] <lucy_> wait!
#1703 [16:02] <lucy_> Are you the only one who take care of this
#1704 [16:03] <mattym> no
#1705 [16:03] <lucy_> oh ok
#1706 [16:03] <lucy_> bye
#1707 [16:03] <earmarks> i think i installed the 64bit java. how can i confirm? also do i need to remove the 32 bit one?
#1708 [16:03] <lucy_> thank you for helping me, god bless you :)
#1709 [16:03] <mattym> you dont need to, but you should earmarks
#1710 [16:04] <mattym> Your computer is using a 64Bit Operating system, using 32Bit java will only cause memory issues
#1711 [16:04] <earmarks> how can i make sure i have the correct one?
#1712 [16:05] <mattym> ??> java/version
#1713 [16:05] <mattym> ??> earmarks java/version
#1714 [16:05] <VoxelHead> earmarks: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1715 [16:05] <VoxelHead> earmarks: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1716 [16:05] <lucy_> im going to tell jeb that you should get a reward sir
#1717 [16:05] <lucy_> im serious
#1718 [16:06] <mattym> we dont work for mojang, we are only volunteers
#1719 [16:06] <lucy_> oh
#1720 [16:06] <lucy_> haha
#1721 [16:06] <mattym> this is the community driven help channel
#1722 [16:06] <lukegb> \o/
#1723 [16:06] <earmarks> this page only says i have the correct version. it doen't indicated 32 or 64 bit. i guess i have the correct one.
#1724 [16:06] <mattym> earmarks do you know how to get to the Programs/Features section in your Conrol Pannel?
#1725 [16:07] <earmarks> yes
#1726 [16:07] <lucy_> oh well
#1727 [16:07] <mattym> cause you can go in there and uninstall the 32bit
#1728 [16:07] <mattym> then it will always use the 64 for sure
#1729 [16:08] <lucy_> thank you again, god bless you and i hope that you will have a great life! :) Goooooodbye :)
#1730 [16:08] <mattym> there are also other Java programs listed in there, make sure you dont touch those, only the one that says 1_7_13 32-Bit
#1731 [16:08] <mattym> Goodbye lucy_
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#1733 [16:09] <mattym> and in the future, keep god out of it
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#1735 [16:10] <mattym> LIAMO Are you still here, did you ever figure out your issue?
#1736 [16:10] <earmarks> ok. I know how to remove the older version and the new version of Java says 64 bit. Good. I have to close my browser to remove it. Before I do that, do you think that was the problem?
#1737 [16:11] <mattym> yeah, the minecraft error said that java ran into a memory issue
#1738 [16:11] <mattym> that should fix it
#1739 [16:11] <earmarks> excellent! thank you so much. you are the best.
#1740 [16:11] <mattym> if it happens again, pastebin the new minecraft crash log and bring it here again and we will check for further issues
#1741 [16:12] <earmarks> gotta love pastebin
#1742 [16:12] <mattym> but otherwise all your setting seem to be fine
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#1744 [16:12] <mattym> Your computer was just trying to address more memory than 32bit Java could handle
#1745 [16:12] <LIAMO> trying toupdate video card driver
#1746 [16:13] <mattym> LIAMO Are you on windows, and did you download the game via Internet Explorer?
#1747 [16:14] <LIAMO> yeah that's correct
#1748 [16:15] <mattym> try to download the launcher from another browser
#1749 [16:15] <mattym> IE likes to mess it up
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#1751 [16:16] <LIAMO> tried it from google chrome too..same issue
#1752 [16:16] <mattym> And what exactly does it say?
#1753 [16:19] <LIAMO> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 13/02/13 21 -- System Details -- Details: Minecraft Version: 1.4.7 Operating System: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java Version: 1.7.0_13, Oracle Corporation Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(
#1754 [16:19] <mattym> hmmm
#1755 [16:19] <mattym> can you do this
#1756 [16:19] <mattym> ??> LIAMO win/dxdiag
#1757 [16:19] <VoxelHead> LIAMO: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1758 [16:19] <VoxelHead> LIAMO: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1759 [16:20] <mattym> and make sure to paste it to a Pastebin like the isntructions say ^ not into this chat
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#1765 [16:38] <Jacky> Hey
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#1768 [16:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> a whole 8 seconds
#1769 [16:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> that has to be a new record
#1770 [16:56] <benhunter09> lol
#1771 [16:58] <mattym> ?
#1772 [16:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh wait no, 12 seconds
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#1774 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> I'm pretty sure the record stands at three.
#1775 [17:02] <mattym> for?
#1776 [17:02] <DiskDaemon> That record was actually deliberate?
#1777 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> join -> request for help -> part/quit
#1778 [17:02] <mattym> ah
#1779 [17:03] <benhunter09> Voxel should have a patience o' meter and tell everyone when there is a new record
#1780 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> heh.
#1781 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> I'm still waiting for join -> part with a request-for-help message.
#1782 [17:04] <mattym> i like the people that try to fit a whole problam explanation as their username
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#1784 [17:04] <mattym> problem*
#1785 [17:04] <mattym> problem*
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#1787 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> that's odd, the message didn't show (:
#1788 [17:05] <benhunter09> Lol mattym
#1789 [17:05] <DopeGhoti> mattym: strange, not many people pick the nick 'PEBCAK'
#1790 [17:05] <mattym> lol
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#1798 [17:09] <lisa_> my son purchased a gift card and put in the wrong email address for verifaction how do we change it so he can activate it
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#1801 [17:09] <mattym> did he actually finish activating the card on the wrong email?
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#1803 [17:10] <lisa_> im not sure he only came and got me when he told me he had put in the wrong email
#1804 [17:10] <lorizean> hey, i'm trying to set up a minecraft server on my ubuntu virtual server, but for some reason the server always hangs during the "preparing start region phase" - sometimes early (0%), sometimes later (~50%) - any suggestions what the problem could be?
#1805 [17:11] <lisa_> he said he couldnt finish because we cant retrieve the email
#1806 [17:12] <mattym> lisa_ Have you checked http://mojang.com/help
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#1808 [17:12] <lisa_> we did thats why i went to chat to get help
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#1810 [17:12] <mattym> Thats a really hard problem to fix, normaly you would have to send Mojang a support request
#1811 [17:13] <mattym> but to do that you need info from the email you would have gotten
#1812 [17:13] <lisa_> do they have a phone number
#1813 [17:13] <mattym> No
#1814 [17:13] <mattym> lorizean Did you give it enough RAM?
#1815 [17:13] <lorizean> 2G
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#1818 [17:13] <lorizean> should be enoguh?
#1819 [17:14] <mattym> and what do you mean by virtual server?
#1820 [17:14] <mattym> please explain the setup a little more
#1821 [17:14] <mattym> 2G should be fine
#1822 [17:14] <redunkan> i am trying to download the demo for my mac, but when i download and unzip it always tells me that the file is damaged
#1823 [17:14] <Wug> lorizean: are you getting anything weird on stdout? is it deadlocking, or livelocking? (do you know the difference)?
#1824 [17:14] <mattym> redunkan You shouldnt be downloading a demo
#1825 [17:15] <benhunter09> ??> redunkan demo
#1826 [17:15] <VoxelHead> redunkan: (demo) You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
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#1828 [17:15] <lorizean> as in, its not a dedicated server. for all intents and purposes it should be treated as one.
#1829 [17:16] <lorizean> nope, nothing on stdout
#1830 [17:16] <lorizean> and no, dunno difference between dead & livelock
#1831 [17:16] <mattym> mojang.com not responding for anyone else?
#1832 [17:16] <Wug> does it use cpu when it stops or not?
#1833 [17:17] <lorizean> yeah it uses cpu
#1834 [17:17] <lorizean> not a lot though
#1835 [17:17] <Wug> how much is not a lot
#1836 [17:17] <lorizean> 0.3%
#1837 [17:18] <Wug> does it do the same thing if you use a temporary world?
#1838 [17:18] <Wug> does it do the same thing if you use a temporary world?
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#1840 [17:18] <lorizean> nvm, it's using 0%
#1841 [17:18] <lorizean> never tried that
#1842 [17:19] <lorizean> how do i do that?
#1843 [17:19] <mattym> do you have an already created world?
#1844 [17:19] <lorizean> i literally just downloaded the minecraft_server.jar and ran java -Xms2048M -Xmx2048M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#1845 [17:19] <lorizean> nope
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#1847 [17:20] <Wug> get rid of the -Xms
#1848 [17:20] <lorizean> ok
#1849 [17:20] <Wug> see if it works starting with however much ram it wants
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#1851 [17:22] <mattym> How much ram does the whole computer have, and how much ram was the virtual server itself allocated
#1852 [17:23] <lorizean> its got 4GB of ram
#1853 [17:23] <lorizean> as in, i have 4gb of ram at my disposal
#1854 [17:23] <lorizean> it's not even starting anything without the -Xms
#1855 [17:23] <Wug> is java broken? can you reinstall it?
#1856 [17:24] <Wug> what version is it
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#1858 [17:24] <lorizean> $ java -version
#1859 [17:24] <lorizean> java version "1.6.0_24"
#1860 [17:24] <lorizean> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.5) (6b24-1.11.5-0ubuntu1~12.04.1)
#1861 [17:24] <lorizean> OpenJDK Client VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode, sharing)
#1862 [17:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> looks fine
#1863 [17:25] <lorizean> i can reinstall it tho
#1864 [17:25] <Wug> is it the 64 bit version?
#1865 [17:25] <Wug> is this a 64 bit vps?
#1866 [17:26] <Wug> it looks like a 32 bit version of java, the 64 bit ones tend to tell you
#1867 [17:26] <Wug> since its a vps, dont use the iced tea plugin
#1868 [17:27] <Wug> that's the browser plugin component iirc.
#1869 [17:27] <Wug> I seem to recall not being able to start minecraft with it at all
#1870 [17:27] <lorizean> hm, its 32bit
#1871 [17:28] <lorizean> i just used the default package from the ubuntu repos
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#1873 [17:30] <lorizean> heh
#1874 [17:30] <lorizean> it just worked, after reinstalling java
#1875 [17:30] <lorizean> thanks :)
#1876 [17:32] * benhunter09 wants to help out more here, but doesn't know a lot
#1876 [17:32] <mattym> ??> benhunter09 index
#1877 [17:32] <VoxelHead> benhunter09: (index) See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1878 [17:32] <benhunter09> I know about that ^
#1879 [17:32] <mattym> memorize that and blurt out random help texts
#1880 [17:33] <mattym> or half the time the person either needs to reinstall java, or new video drivers
#1881 [17:34] <benhunter09> I just watch chat and learn about the problems in case it crops up again
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#1883 [17:35] <mattym> yeah, i cant speak for the channel as a whole, but 90% of what ive seen comes down to one or both of those ^
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#1885 [17:35] <benhunter09> Righto
#1886 [17:35] <redunkan> im trying to play the demo online and it keeps crashing. I have updated java and it still wont work. what do i do?
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#1888 [17:36] <mattym> Mac?
#1889 [17:36] <redunkan> yes
#1890 [17:37] <mattym> When you updated java did you go to 1_7_XX
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#1897 [17:40] <redunkan_> im trying to play the demo online and it keeps crashing. i have updated java to the current version (7.13 i believe) and it still crashes. what do i do?
#1898 [17:41] <mattym> On Mac's Java7 doesnt work properly
#1899 [17:41] <redunkan_> yes
#1900 [17:41] <redunkan_> so what do i do?
#1901 [17:41] <mattym> Can you try downgrading it to the latest version of Java6
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#1903 [17:42] <mattym> There is more info on it here http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/649868-guide-mac-support-101/
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#1906 [17:43] <nweasel> Hi, folks. Gotta question, if you don't mind. My Java continuously crashes when running Minecraft (latest versions of Minecraft and Java, 64-bit). If it's not Java that's crashing, it's my video card (latest drivers there as well, Nvidia). Any tips?
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#1909 [17:44] <mattym> Is minecraft crashing, or java
#1910 [17:44] <mattym> do you have the crash report, if so pastebin it
#1911 [17:44] <mattym> ??> nweasel pastebin
#1912 [17:44] <VoxelHead> nweasel: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1915 [17:44] <nweasel> One moment while I use Pastbin. (:
#1916 [17:45] <nweasel> *Pastebin
#1917 [17:45] <mattym> ok
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#1921 [17:46] <nweasel> @mattym http://pastebin.com/KQ1e8CFu
#1922 [17:46] <mattym> ok
#1923 [17:46] <mattym> did you check on Nvidias site for your latest drivers?
#1924 [17:47] <nweasel> Yes. I have the latest drivers.
#1925 [17:47] <benhunter09> ??< java/1.7
#1926 [17:48] <nweasel> Yes. Latest version, 7-13.
#1927 [17:48] <benhunter09> ??> nweasel java/1.7
#1928 [17:48] <VoxelHead> nweasel: (java/1.7) Please note that Java 7 is known to be imcompatible with Minecraft in many cases. Unless otherwise required by a helper, please use Java 6 instead. See ?? java/1.6
#1929 [17:48] <VoxelHead> nweasel: (java/1.7) You can get Java 1.7 for almost any platform here: http://is.gd/mc_j7
#1930 [17:49] <benhunter09> I helped! yay!
#1931 [17:49] <nweasel> Huh.
#1932 [17:49] <mattym> benhunter09 java 7 should work fine on windows7
#1933 [17:49] <mattym> windows anything rather
#1934 [17:49] <Lord_Ralex> ??> nweasel win/dxdiag
#1935 [17:49] <VoxelHead> nweasel: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1936 [17:49] <VoxelHead> nweasel: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1937 [17:49] <mattym> i think that help topic is outdated
#1938 [17:50] <mattym> nweasel follow the instructions from Voxel and get back to us
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#1940 [17:50] <nweasel> DxDiag - http://pastebin.com/RTBssJE1
#1941 [17:51] <mattym> Wow, you spend all that money on the PC and skimped on the GFX card?
#1942 [17:52] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, 2nd gen i7?
#1943 [17:52] <mattym> but anyway, you may need to do a complete java reinstall, cause everything else seems up to date
#1944 [17:52] <nweasel> @mattym To be fair, I've been slowly upgrading things over time. The video card hasn't been able to be upgraded yet due to money.
#1945 [17:52] <Lord_Ralex> i would not say he spent as much as you are suggesting really (and unless you game, gpu is not really that badly important)
#1946 [17:53] <nweasel> @mattym Yeah, sadly, reinstalling Java was the FIRST thing I did. No dice on that one. ):
#1947 [17:53] <mattym> its was more of a comparison, the level of the other components, which were probably top of the line when it was built, compated to the graphics, which is like the 3rd or 4th tier from that generation of cards
#1948 [17:55] <mattym> and your java is 64Bit correct?
#1949 [17:55] <nweasel> Correct.
#1950 [17:56] <mattym> wait, you have two graphics cards right?
#1951 [17:56] <nweasel> One. It has 2 GPUs.
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#1954 [17:56] <mattym> ok
#1955 [17:57] <chaoticlychaotic> Anyone else having issues with MC on Ubuntu 12.04?
#1956 [17:57] <mattym> Does the Nvidia control pannel let you choose between SLI or not SLI within that card?
#1957 [17:57] <nweasel> Yes.
#1958 [17:57] <mattym> chaoticlychaotic Not that anyone has reported as of yet
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#1960 [17:57] <mattym> nweasel try turning SLI off
#1961 [17:57] <mattym> if it isnt already
#1962 [17:57] <nweasel> @mattym I don't use the SLI, so it is currently disabled.
#1963 [17:58] <mattym> you dont need the @ symbol in irc, my screen highlights it for me if you just use my name
#1964 [17:58] <nweasel> :P I know.
#1965 [17:58] <nweasel> I'm just used to it.
#1966 [17:59] <chaoticlychaotic> mattym: solution found. In case someone else comes asking, do you want the relevant forum post?
#1967 [17:59] <mattym> sure
#1968 [17:59] <Lord_Ralex> chaoticlychaotic, we have no idea what your issue even was
#1969 [18:00] <mattym> nweasel did minecraft ever work on that PC? or did this just start happening?
#1970 [18:00] <chaoticlychaotic> Lord_Ralex: Minecraft failed to load on startup, crashed when the typical Mojang screen came up. Turns out this is rather typical with Ubuntu, and the LWJGL library was outdated.
#1971 [18:00] <chaoticlychaotic> mattym: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#1972 [18:00] <Lord_Ralex> chaoticlychaotic, figured
#1973 [18:00] <mattym> ah so linux has that issue too
#1974 [18:00] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, linux has many issues in relation to mc ;)
#1975 [18:01] <nweasel> @mattym Minecraft has worked on and off. Some days it's good, some days it isn't. It often likes to crash after varied amounts of use. It's either Java that just shuts down or my video card says that it's crashed and recovered.
#1976 [18:01] <mattym> you may want to try a minecraft forcedupdate
#1977 [18:02] <mattym> to make sure that all the MC files are ok
#1978 [18:02] <mattym> ??> nweasel forceupdate
#1979 [18:02] <VoxelHead> nweasel: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1980 [18:02] <chaoticlychaotic> Lord_Ralex: You could just say Linux has many issues. Thankfully the community's usually good at fixing them
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#1982 [18:02] <VoxelHead> nweasel: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1983 [18:02] <Lord_Ralex> chaoticlychaotic, na, linux is great
#1984 [18:02] <Lord_Ralex> just not for mc
#1985 [18:02] <Lord_Ralex> or some games
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#1987 [18:02] <chaoticlychaotic> Lord_Ralex: Oh, I love it. Just some of its quirks are...well, quirky.
#1988 [18:02] <Lord_Ralex> gaming wise it is a bit harder to make some work
#1989 [18:03] <Lord_Ralex> or if you have ubuntu with an amd gpu...
#1990 [18:03] <nweasel> @mattym Forcing update. Will let you know if/when it crashes again.
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#1992 [18:04] <nweasel> @mattym Crash'd.
#1993 [18:04] <mattym> hhmmm thats odd
#1994 [18:04] <nweasel> Quite.
#1995 [18:04] <mattym> you may want to try the lwjgl fix
#1996 [18:05] <nweasel> Minecraft is the ONLY thing that ever has problems.
#1997 [18:05] <chaoticlychaotic> mattym: Might not work. Hanging, currently
#1998 [18:05] <nweasel> lwjgl fix? I've not heard of that.
#1999 [18:05] <chaoticlychaotic> nweasel: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#2000 [18:05] <chaoticlychaotic> nweasel: good luck
#2001 [18:05] <cornelius> so i just got minecraft yesterday and its working with my older worlds but when i make a new one it freezes after like 5 seconds is that a problem right now or am i in trouble
#2002 [18:06] <xales> cornelius: Did you try to install any mods, or otherwise change Minecraft in any way?
#2003 [18:06] <chaoticlychaotic> mattym: Seriously hanging. Wheee
#2004 [18:06] <cornelius> no mods i just put my old worlds in the saves folder
#2005 [18:07] <mattym> chaoticlychaotic yeah im not to sure about the issues linux has
#2006 [18:07] <Lord_Ralex> chaoticlychaotic, run minecraft in the terminal to get the error
#2007 [18:07] <chaoticlychaotic> mattym: It's fine. I'll figure it out. Solution's gotta be floating somewhere; that's one of the benefits of linux.
#2008 [18:07] <Lord_Ralex> from there we can see why it is locking up
#2009 [18:07] <xales> chaoticlychaotic: Are you using the right driver?
#2010 [18:07] <chaoticlychaotic> Lord_Ralex: Attempting. One moment.
#2011 [18:07] <xales> Ubuntu is silly and will not default to using 3D-supported drivers.
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#2013 [18:08] <chaoticlychaotic> xales: It's possible I need to update those. Didn't have much issue a week ago, though. We'll see.
#2014 [18:08] <chaoticlychaotic> xales: Gonna start simple and work my way up
#2015 [18:08] <xales> Not just update - if you have an Nvidia card, the problem is the driver.
#2016 [18:08] <Lord_Ralex> and if you have amd prop drivers suck
#2017 [18:08] <xales> nouveau, the driver Ubuntu will use by default, has extremely experimental 3D support.
#2018 [18:08] <xales> and by experimental they mean "almost never works"
#2019 [18:09] <xales> whereas the driver by Nvidia, called nvidia, works fine.
#2020 [18:09] <xales> it's just not open source, not that 99% of Ubuntu's userbase will care.
#2021 [18:10] <cornelius> no mods i just put my old worlds in the saves folder
#2022 [18:10] <xales> ??> cornelius forceupdate
#2023 [18:10] <VoxelHead> cornelius: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2024 [18:10] <VoxelHead> cornelius: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2025 [18:10] <chaoticlychaotic> xales: I'm an AMD system. no nvidia here.
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#2027 [18:11] <cornelius> ok i hope it works
#2028 [18:11] <Lord_Ralex> chaoticlychaotic, eww, amd drivers are a pain with ubuntu from my experience
#2029 [18:11] <xales> chaoticlychaotic: Should still make sure it's using the right driver (from what I recall, there is both fglrx and catalyst).
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#2031 [18:11] <chaoticlychaotic> Lord_Ralex: Haven't had too many issues as of late.
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#2033 [18:12] <xales> chaoticlychaotic: Open the "System Settings" thing and find "Additional Drivers"
#2034 [18:12] <xales> it'll be in there.
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#2036 [18:13] <cornelius> ok i cant force update but i know why the internet im on blocks it so i cant now i guess ill just play on my old worlds for now thanks anyways though
#2037 [18:13] <chaoticlychaotic> xales: Yeah, I'll check in a minute. Finishing the lwjgl fix now
#2038 [18:13] <portlandplease> Hey guys I'm back from yesterday. IDK if anyone remembers, but does anyone have the download for the updated Jars and Natives for Minecraft. I have a macbook pro running 10.7.5 with java 7.13
#2039 [18:14] <mattym> Lord_Ralex ^
#2040 [18:14] <xales> portlandplease: The easiest thing to do would honestly be to just remove the pre-release version of Java.
#2041 [18:14] <xales> (unless you're an Apple or Java developer, you don't want it, and shouldn't have it)
#2042 [18:14] <chaoticlychaotic> xales: Still hanging. I'm gonna grab some food and then start in on this again in a bit.
#2043 [18:14] <nweasel> @chaoticlychaotic @mattym Turns out, that made things worse, haha. I couldn't click and move at the same time anymore. Also, this is the error I get for the video card, FYI: http://i.imgur.com/0WId2B5.png
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#2045 [18:15] <cornelius> oh i was also on here yesterday haha i was sprocket i had the fatal error 4 null but i fixed it so yeah haha
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#2047 [18:15] <portlandplease> how would i do that? just uninstall java all together?
#2048 [18:15] <xales> portlandplease: No. One moment.
#2049 [18:15] <chaoticlychaotic> nweasel: I still can't load. Getting all kinds of pretty errors. I'll take another look in a bit. Brbing for dinner now.
#2050 [18:15] <redunkan> im trying to play the demo on a mac and it keeps crashing. i have updated java to 7.13 and it still crashes
#2051 [18:15] <mattym> nweasel thats still really weird,
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#2054 [18:16] <MinecraftDad> hi
#2055 [18:16] <nweasel> @mattym Trust me, I'm stumped and I'm usually decently good with computers, haha.
#2056 [18:16] <mattym> nweasel have you tried to whipe the driver for the video card and do a clean install?
#2057 [18:16] <MinecraftDad> it wont let me play the demo
#2058 [18:16] <nweasel> @mattym Sure did. This is a few week old install of Windows so everything is brand new.
#2059 [18:16] <xales> MinecraftDad: Are you on a Mac?
#2060 [18:16] <mattym> nweasel Did you get all your system drivers?
#2061 [18:17] <MinecraftDad> no i own a windows 8
#2062 [18:17] <nweasel> @mattym To my knowledge, yes. I keep a list of them for when I reinstall Windows.
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#2064 [18:17] <mattym> nweasel cause i build a lot of computers, and still sometimes blank on something
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#2068 [18:18] <nweasel> @mattym I guess, to be fair, I wouldn't know what's missing, haha.
#2069 [18:18] <mattym> truth
#2070 [18:18] <xales> portlandplease: Instructions are here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5559?viewlocale=en_US
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#2073 [18:19] <mattym> nweasel did you get the Chipset/NorthBridge stuff, should be from intel?
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#2075 [18:19] <portlandplease> Thanks will try. after this, do i download the linux version again or mac version
#2076 [18:20] <mattym> portlandplease after that, try it with the regular mac launcher
#2077 [18:20] <nweasel> @mattym I should have, yes. I remember that being on my list.
#2078 [18:20] <BrandonDPMS> i all of a sudden cannot log in to minecraft. says login failed. what do i do to fix to play online?
#2079 [18:20] <portlandplease> ok
#2080 [18:20] <mattym> BrandonDPMS Have you checked your Antivirus and Firewall to make sure they arent blocking it
#2081 [18:20] <xales> BrandonDPMS: Did you migrate your account?
#2082 [18:21] <BrandonDPMS> no firewall blocking
#2083 [18:21] <BrandonDPMS> what is migrate account mean?
#2084 [18:22] <mattym> nweasel im personally at a loss, maybe someone else can jump in, i still have the links for your crash log and dxdiag if they need them.
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#2086 [18:22] <nweasel> @mattym No problem! I appreciate the help you've given me so far
#2087 [18:23] <BrandonDPMS> has anyone else had trouble logging in recently? If so what did you do to fix the problem?
#2088 [18:24] <BrandonDPMS> my brother is sitting next to me & just logged in fine.
#2089 [18:24] <BrandonDPMS> why can't I log in?
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#2091 [18:24] <mattym> BrandonDPMS Have you logged in before on that PC?
#2092 [18:24] <BrandonDPMS> yes, for the past 6 months, everyday with no problems, until today
#2093 [18:25] <xales> BrandonDPMS: When you sign into your account, do you sign in with an email address or just a username?
#2094 [18:25] <BrandonDPMS> just username
#2095 [18:25] <xales> Try signing in on http://minecraft.net/
#2096 [18:27] <xales> Did that work?
#2097 [18:27] <BrandonDPMS> what will this do?
#2098 [18:27] <xales> Are you able to sign in there, or not?
#2099 [18:30] <xales> BrandonDPMS: Hello?
#2100 [18:31] <BrandonDPMS> we are trying, give us a sec--thanks!!
#2101 [18:31] <xales> er, okay..
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#2106 [18:41] <portlandplease> holy shit that worked man. thanks so much
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#2108 [18:42] <BrandonDPMS> thanks elystus--it worked, just reset my password you rock!
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#2110 [18:43] <xales> wat
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#2112 [18:43] <mattym> yeah what?
#2113 [18:43] <mattym> id didnt like blink for 12 minutes did i?
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#2125 [19:08] <killer_> how do you creat a server
#2126 [19:08] <mattym> do you mean a multiplayer server, or a local Lan server?
#2127 [19:09] <killer_> whats the diffrence between them
#2128 [19:09] <mattym> A multiplayer server is open to anyone you allow to join, a LAN is just for the people in your house( or at least on your network)
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#2130 [19:09] <killer_> a multiplayer
#2131 [19:10] <mattym> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server#Server_setup
#2132 [19:14] <killer_> and how do you creat a lan server
#2133 [19:14] <mattym> On the computer that you want to save the world on
#2134 [19:14] <mattym> start a world his Escape and select Open to LAN
#2135 [19:14] <killer_> ?
#2136 [19:14] <mattym> hit*
#2137 [19:15] <killer_> ???????????????????????
#2138 [19:15] <mattym> LAN is just between you and other computers on your network (router)
#2139 [19:15] <mattym> One computer acts as the host
#2140 [19:15] <killer_> but how do u join
#2141 [19:15] <mattym> the other person selects multiplayer
#2142 [19:15] <killer_> and
#2143 [19:16] <mattym> and the LAN server should show up
#2144 [19:16] <killer_> ok
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#2146 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> Question Mark Question Mark Question Mark
#2147 [19:17] <mattym> one more for good luck?
#2148 [19:17] <NinjaKirby> Exclamation Mark
#2149 [19:17] <mattym> You had ONE job :(
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#2160 [19:36] <ACorgiDog> Can someone help me
#2161 [19:37] <Moose> I don't know.
#2162 [19:37] <Moose> Probably.
#2163 [19:37] <Moose> Maybe not.
#2164 [19:37] <Moose> We don't really know.
#2165 [19:37] <Moose> Do you know?
#2166 [19:37] <ACorgiDog> ...
#2167 [19:37] <ACorgiDog> Well
#2168 [19:37] <Moose> You come in here and ask "Can someone help me" in the #minecrafthelp channel
#2169 [19:37] <Moose> #minecraft04help
#2170 [19:38] <Moose> not #minecraftdontcomeinhereforhelp
#2171 [19:38] <Moose> so yes, ACorgiDog
#2172 [19:38] <Moose> it's possible we can help you
#2173 [19:38] <Moose> next time just ask your question
#2174 [19:38] <ACorgiDog> I need help downloading adfly links, they have been working, but now they just say please wait
#2175 [19:38] <Moose> disable adblock/refresh page.
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#2177 [19:38] <mattym> do we have to highlight minecraft now?
#2178 [19:39] <Moose> what, mattym?
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#2180 [19:39] <ACorgiDog> I have no adblocker, and I have tried refreshing the page
#2181 [19:39] <Moose> and ACorgiDog, I see no relevance that is to minecraft.
#2182 [19:39] <mattym> Moose the question was still a little off topic
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#2184 [19:39] <ACorgiDog> IKIK
#2185 [19:39] <Moose> don't use stupid abbreviations.
#2186 [19:39] <ACorgiDog> Just a bit off topic
#2187 [19:39] <Moose> a bit?
#2188 [19:40] <Moose> It's way off topic.
#2189 [19:40] <ACorgiDog> I Know I know
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#2191 [19:40] <Moose> what web browser do you use?
#2192 [19:40] <ACorgiDog> Internet Explorer
#2193 [19:41] <Moose> ROFLMAO
#2194 [19:41] <Moose> oh sorry
#2195 [19:41] <Moose> Internet Explorer is good for only one thing:
#2196 [19:41] <Moose> installing new web browsers.
#2197 [19:41] <ACorgiDog> Yeah 'm a noob I get it...
#2198 [19:41] <Moose> Go install Google Chrome or Firefox.
#2199 [19:41] <ACorgiDog> *I'm
#2200 [19:42] <ACorgiDog> Tobias Mollstam was in this???
#2201 [19:43] <Moose> ...
#2202 [19:43] <Moose> don't ping him.
#2203 [19:43] <mattym> idleing
#2204 [19:43] <Moose> don't ping ANYONE who isn't helping you out.
#2205 [19:44] <ACorgiDog> Downloding Firefox now...
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#2208 [19:55] <Nesikha> Hello! I keep getting booted off of minecraft. The error I get is: "Internal Exception: Java.net.socketexception: software caused connection abort: recv failed
#2209 [19:55] <Nesikha> Can anyone help me?
#2210 [19:56] <mattym> can you post the whole crash report to a pastebin
#2211 [19:56] <mattym> ??> Nesikha pastebin
#2212 [19:56] <VoxelHead> Nesikha: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2213 [19:56] <Lord_Ralex> Nesikha, is that from a server
#2214 [19:56] <Nesikha> I have no idea how to do that but if you tell me how I Can
#2215 [19:56] <Nesikha> Yes it's a server
#2216 [19:56] <Lord_Ralex> looks like the server you are trying to connect to is not set up correctly or is down
#2217 [19:57] <Nesikha> it's not there are two other on
#2218 [19:59] <mattym> do other servers work ok?
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#2227 [20:16] <Garmeer> I need help please :p
#2228 [20:16] <Garmeer> cam I allowed to post links?
#2229 [20:16] <xales> What do you need help with?
#2230 [20:16] <Lutzee> Here? As long as they are safe and not advertising
#2231 [20:17] <Garmeer> alrigt
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#2233 [20:17] <Garmeer> got a new toy: unrelated to minecraft
#2234 [20:17] <Garmeer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYx6Tf9FNso
#2235 [20:17] <VoxelHead> Makey Makey - leprechaun brains ( by ti388 )
#2236 [20:17] <xales> ...
#2237 [20:17] <xales> Did you need help with something?
#2238 [20:17] <Garmeer> you already helped with my question
#2239 [20:18] * xales kicked Garmeer from #minecrafthelp (Reason: armeer :Garmeer)
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#2241 [20:18] <Garmeer> I'm sorry, why was I kicked?
#2242 [20:18] <Garmeer> the link was safe
#2243 [20:18] <Moose> Garmeer, I think you know why.
#2244 [20:18] <Moose> It was off topic.
#2245 [20:18] <Moose> This is specifically and strictly for Minecraft-related issues and questions.
#2246 [20:18] <Garmeer> alright, I now know off-topicness is bad
#2247 [20:19] <xales> It's generally fine to be off-topic when nobody is asking for help, however.
#2248 [20:19] <Moose> also, what's up with that sugar cane bug?
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#2250 [20:19] <xales> Joining a channel just to spam some random link is /not/ okay.
#2251 [20:19] <Garmeer> alright,sorry :p
#2252 [20:19] <Garmeer> so how's that sugar cane bug?
#2253 [20:19] <Moose> xales, know anything about it?
#2254 [20:20] <xales> what
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#2256 [20:20] <Moose> where if you have a huge sugar cane farm, unload the chunks
#2257 [20:20] <xales> wiki it
#2258 [20:20] <Moose> and then reload them, some rows of the sugar cane magically disappears without a trace.
#2259 [20:20] <Garmeer> what happens if you walk into the unloaded farm?
#2260 [20:21] <xales> nothing, because you can't
#2261 [20:21] <Garmeer> press w while facing it?
#2262 [20:21] <Garmeer> or does it load when you try
#2263 [20:21] <xales> if it's unloaded then the game will reload it when you get within range of it
#2264 [20:21] <Garmeer> but everything unloads whn you go far away, not just reeds
#2265 [20:22] <xales> yes, the entire chunk does
#2266 [20:22] <xales> which is what he was talking about
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#2268 [20:22] <Garmeer> son it resets the chunk and regenerates the terrain after you load it again?
#2269 [20:23] <xales> no...
#2270 [20:23] <xales> when you reload the chunk everything is how it is supposed to be except random missing rows
#2271 [20:23] <xales> as was originally said...
#2272 [20:23] <Garmeer> wierd
#2273 [20:23] <Garmeer> wierd
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#2275 [20:24] <Garmeer> it's probably just herobrine, they'll remove him in the next patch
#2276 [20:24] <xales> that got old, uhm
#2277 [20:24] <xales> 2 years ago
#2278 [20:24] <xales> no, probably more than that
#2279 [20:25] <Garmeer> but he's still there
#2280 [20:25] <xales> you're hilarious
#2281 [20:25] <xales> really
#2282 [20:25] <Garmeer> it's not funny
#2283 [20:25] * xales golfclap
#2283 [20:25] <Garmeer> I lost my grandmother to a golfclap...
#2284 [20:26] <xales> sounds fun
#2285 [20:26] <Garmeer> it was
#2286 [20:26] <Garmeer> until she died
#2287 [20:27] <xales> uh-huh
#2288 [20:29] <Garmeer> so how's the weather?
#2289 [20:29] <xales> .wa 48169
#2290 [20:30] <xales> :|
#2291 [20:30] <Garmeer> i dont get it...
#2292 [20:30] <xales> !wa 48169
#2293 [20:30] <xales> GreyBot: poke
#2294 [20:30] <xales> !weather 48169
#2295 [20:30] <xales> meh
#2296 [20:30] <GreyBot> xales: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (8:30p Feb 13 13) temp(30.8 F / -0.7 C, feels like 31 F / -1 C) cond(Scattered Clouds) wind(North at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(81%) dewpnt(26 F / -3 C) bp(29.74 in / 1007 hPa (Rising)) clouds(Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 11000 ft / 3352 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#2297 [20:30] <GreyBot> Wednesday: Partly cloudy. High of 43F. Winds from the SSW at 5 to 10 mph.
#2298 [20:30] <xales> oh there we go
#2299 [20:30] <Garmeer> now im gunna stalk you
#2300 [20:30] <xales> have fun with that
#2301 [20:31] <xales> I hear Waltham is a nice place this time of year.
#2302 [20:32] <Garmeer> heh, I spoofed mah ip so u cant counter-stalk me
#2303 [20:32] <xales> you don't lie very well
#2304 [20:32] <xales> you can't "spoof your IP"
#2305 [20:32] <Garmeer> then how did I do it?
#2306 [20:32] <Garmeer> :p
#2307 [20:33] <xales> You didn.t
#2308 [20:33] <Garmeer> it claims live in the us
#2309 [20:33] <Garmeer> I
#2310 [20:33] <xales> your computer's local time agrees with that
#2311 [20:33] <xales> unless you just happen to be using the EST timezone for fun?
#2312 [20:33] <xales> 20:33:23 esper -!- CTCP reply from Garmeer: TIME Wed Feb 13 20:33:21 2013
#2313 [20:34] <Garmeer> alright, ya got me
#2314 [20:34] <Garmeer> but how do you get my system time remotely?
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#2316 [20:34] <xales> because you're using an IRC client that makes it available
#2317 [20:34] * Garmeer shakes fist at webchat
#2317 [20:34] <xales> and also because I pwned your box
#2318 [20:35] <Garmeer> so webchat automatically granted your request
#2319 [20:35] <xales> uh, sure, something like that
#2320 [20:35] <Garmeer> how exactly did you do it?
#2321 [20:35] <xales> do what?
#2322 [20:36] <mattym> wtf did i walk back in on?
#2323 [20:36] <xales> mattym: I ask myself the same thing
#2324 [20:36] <Garmeer> request my system time
#2325 [20:36] <xales> that's for me to know and you to Google
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#2327 [20:37] <Garmeer> irc is seeming less and less secure every second
#2328 [20:37] <xales> I'd probably just tell you except for the fact that you'll just go around and pester people for time
#2329 [20:37] <xales> oh yes, because letting someone know what time it is where you are is EXTREMELY dangerous
#2330 [20:37] <xales> you know, in case someone wants to know if you're likely sleeping or something before they bother you
#2331 [20:37] <Garmeer> the fact that you can just reach right into my system and grab the time makes me nervous
#2332 [20:38] <xales> it doesn't work that way.
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#2334 [20:38] <pokesmaster57> hello
#2335 [20:38] <xales> Hi.
#2336 [20:39] <pokesmaster57> can you help me i got the blackscreen
#2337 [20:39] <xales> Did you try to install any mods or texture packs?
#2338 [20:39] * Moose\Away is now known as Moose
#2339 [20:39] <pokesmaster57> yea I tryed to download a mod
#2340 [20:39] <Garmeer> any modloader?
#2341 [20:39] <xales> ??> pokesmaster57 forceupdate
#2342 [20:40] <VoxelHead> pokesmaster57: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2343 [20:40] <VoxelHead> pokesmaster57: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2344 [20:40] <pokesmaster57> ok
#2345 [20:40] <Garmeer> heh, thats a nice sysetm for explaining things without typing :p
#2346 [20:40] <xales> Indeed.
#2347 [20:41] <Garmeer> is this channel run by esper?
#2348 [20:41] <xales> No.
#2349 [20:41] <Garmeer> who's in charge?
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#2351 [20:41] <xales> /msg ChanServ INFO #minecrafthelp
#2352 [20:42] <xales> And, if the question is along the lines of "can I have (op|voice)" the answer is "no"
#2353 [20:42] <Garmeer> Im not THAT dum
#2354 [20:43] <mattym> Whats dum?
#2355 [20:43] <xales> Also, the only public channels run by EsperNet are listed in the MOTD.
#2356 [20:44] <Garmeer> not me
#2357 [20:44] <Garmeer> :p
#2358 [20:44] <Garmeer> I kan spell reeal good
#2359 [20:44] <xales> Evidently.
#2360 [20:46] <Garmeer> so, I noticed that your email is in the spot where your ip would normally be
#2361 [20:46] <Garmeer> how is that achieved?
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#2368 [20:48] <Silverman200> I can not sign into the website site i have paid and that is all ? i would like a phone number where I can speak to actual person about my issue
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#2371 [20:50] <MorbidWolf13> I click Buy minecraft for the PC version and it says I have to Verify My Email. I've already Verified it. What do I do?
#2372 [20:50] <xales> Garmeer: That's not my email.
#2373 [20:50] <xales> MorbidWolf13: Are you sure?
#2374 [20:51] <Garmeer> xales, then what is it?
#2375 [20:51] <Garmeer> somethingg under the domain inafire.com
#2376 [20:51] <xales> Garmeer: I am connecting from inafire.com
#2377 [20:51] <Garmeer> so you're using webchat hosted on that site?
#2378 [20:52] <xales> I'm not using webchat.
#2379 [20:52] <xales> In fact, most people are not.
#2380 [20:52] <Garmeer> but you're using inafire.com as a sort of prxy?
#2381 [20:52] <Garmeer> proxy*
#2382 [20:52] <xales> No, my IRC client is running on inafire.com
#2383 [20:52] <MorbidWolf13> Yes. I'm sure I verified it.
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#2385 [20:52] <xales> MorbidWolf13: Log in at http://accounts.mojang.com/
#2386 [20:53] <xales> Go to the account settings and see if it says it's verified.
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#2388 [20:53] <Garmeer> try enabling cookies, that may be it
#2389 [20:53] * _Rogue_ heard cookies
#2389 [20:53] <xales> If cookies weren't enabled they wouldn't be able to log in.
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#2391 [20:54] <Garmeer> just trying to help...
#2392 [20:54] <_Rogue_> he wasn't saying that was bad, just saying it isn't the cause :p
#2393 [20:54] <Brandon_> Can I assume that nobody here works for Mojang?
#2394 [20:54] <_Rogue_> Brandon_ pretty safely
#2395 [20:54] <Garmeer> dinner-bone
#2396 [20:54] <xales> Brandon_: Someone does. What do you need?
#2397 [20:54] <_Rogue_> oh, didn't see the dbone up there
#2398 [20:55] <Brandon_> I'm here because although i don't want to pay $26 for the game....i need to be honest about something I am experiencing
#2399 [20:55] <_Rogue_> ?
#2400 [20:55] <Garmeer> I dont think they will hep you pirate the game
#2401 [20:56] <Brandon_> I heard about the game, went to the website, created a mojang account and went to the download page
#2402 [20:56] <Brandon_> instead of playing the online demo, i opted to download instead (my internet speed sucks)
#2403 [20:56] <Brandon_> so i downloaded the minecraft.exe to my hard drive and double clicked on it and it brought up the standalone launcher
#2404 [20:56] <xales> The demo only works online (and still runs locally - Internet speed is irrelevant to both)
#2405 [20:57] <Brandon_> i tried to log in with my account, and it said it can't connect, but i had the option to play offline....
#2406 [20:57] <Garmeer> maybe he doesnt have newest java
#2407 [20:57] <_Rogue_> if it's connection it's not java version most likely
#2408 [20:57] <Brandon_> and although online it says i should only be able to play the demo for 100 hours...i been playing for over 3 days now
#2409 [20:57] <xales> Garmeer: spewing random things is generally not terribly helpful, especially if they haven't even explained the problem yet.
#2410 [20:57] <Garmeer> mustard!
#2411 [20:58] <_Rogue_> Brandon_ 3 days = 72 hours
#2412 [20:58] <xales> Brandon_: Someone who has paid for it has probably played on your computer before; that, or you (or someone else) installed a pirated version.
#2413 [20:58] <_Rogue_> and I'm not 100% certain but it may mean 100 hours playtime not just 100 hours since start
#2414 [20:58] <_Rogue_> xales can prob verify that
#2415 [20:58] <Lord_Ralex> think it is 100 minutes
#2416 [20:58] <xales> ^
#2417 [20:58] * _Rogue_ never played the demo
#2417 [20:58] <Lord_Ralex> which is just close to a minecraft week
#2418 [20:58] <xales> it's certainly not 100 hours
#2419 [20:58] <Lord_Ralex> i htink
#2420 [20:58] <Brandon_> i thought it was 100 minutes, or 5 days in game
#2421 [20:58] * Lord_Ralex boots the pc gamer copy
#2421 [20:59] <xales> Lord_Ralex: err, that's not the demo any more :p
#2422 [20:59] <Lord_Ralex> xales, idc
#2423 [20:59] <xales> lol
#2424 [20:59] <Lord_Ralex> it is a demp
#2425 [20:59] <Lord_Ralex> demo*
#2426 [20:59] <Lord_Ralex> and still works >_> <_<
#2427 [20:59] <Brandon_> ps, this is a laptop i have owned for over a year, that was bought used and was wiped by the tech. i bought it from
#2428 [20:59] <xales> the new demo is probably different
#2429 [20:59] <Lord_Ralex> also, so much noglista
#2430 [20:59] <Lord_Ralex> was before hunger was even added
#2431 [20:59] <Garmeer> brandon, if I were you I wouldnt question gettine extra time with the demo
#2432 [20:59] <AlphaBlend> noglista? nostaliga???
#2433 [20:59] <AlphaBlend> xD
#2434 [21:00] <Lord_Ralex> idc about spelling
#2435 [21:00] <_Rogue_> nostrilagia
#2436 [21:00] <xales> Brandon_: okay...as I said, either someone who has paid for it played it on your computer, thus enabling the use of "Play Offline", or you (or someone else) installed a pirated version.
#2437 [21:00] <AlphaBlend> yes, that demo is madddd old
#2438 [21:00] <Brandon_> garmeer....i don't care, but i don't know if there's things i'm missing or something
#2439 [21:00] <Lord_Ralex> June 2011
#2440 [21:00] <Garmeer> I have a sevre case of noglista. pleaase keep back 10 feet
#2441 [21:00] <AlphaBlend> Lord_Ralex: Normally I dont, but your mispelling was rather humorous, not just a tiny mispelling
#2442 [21:00] <Lord_Ralex> AlphaBlend, i could never spell that right
#2443 [21:00] <AlphaBlend> kind of like you had nasal congestion
#2444 [21:01] <Brandon_> xales...i clicked on the "download" from the minecraft site...i don't play pirated games
#2445 [21:01] <Lord_Ralex> and using a gaming keyboard makes it a bit harder
#2446 [21:01] <AlphaBlend> oh
#2447 [21:01] <AlphaBlend> but yeah
#2448 [21:01] <AlphaBlend> that demo
#2449 [21:01] <xales> Brandon_: The file you downloaded was just a launcher.
#2450 [21:01] <AlphaBlend> when was it from
#2451 [21:01] <xales> The game files exist elsewhere on your computer.
#2452 [21:01] <AlphaBlend> Minecraft 1.2.5 or something?
#2453 [21:01] <cestislife> 1.4 IIRC.
#2454 [21:01] <AlphaBlend> beta then
#2455 [21:01] <cestislife> 1.4 release.
#2456 [21:01] <cestislife> not beta.
#2457 [21:01] <xales> we're...on 1.4 release
#2458 [21:02] <AlphaBlend> uhh, that's rather recent
#2459 [21:02] <Lord_Ralex> cestislife, the pc gamer demo
#2460 [21:02] <AlphaBlend> the demo?
#2461 [21:02] <xales> it's much older than that
#2462 [21:02] <cestislife> Oh?
#2463 [21:02] <Brandon_> .....i don't understand....and yes, it's the newest version displayed on the menu screen
#2464 [21:02] <AlphaBlend> yeah
#2465 [21:02] <cestislife> I thought you meant the one on the site.
#2466 [21:02] <AlphaBlend> i'm talking about the demo
#2467 [21:02] <xales> it was Beta 1.3
#2468 [21:02] <AlphaBlend> oh
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#2470 [21:02] <AlphaBlend> dang, that's so long ago
#2471 [21:02] <Lord_Ralex> 1.3?
#2472 [21:02] <Lord_Ralex> really?
#2473 [21:02] <AlphaBlend> before even redstone!
#2474 [21:02] <Garmeer> no, really?
#2475 [21:02] <Garmeer> I think just repeaters
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#2477 [21:02] <xales> Brandon_: As I've said, the two possibilities are this: (1) Someone else, who has paid for it, played it on your computer. (2) There is a pirated version installed on your computer
#2478 [21:03] <AlphaBlend> repeaters were a newer addition from when redstone first came out? It's been so long...
#2479 [21:03] <xales> redstone has been since alpha
#2480 [21:03] <AlphaBlend> oh
#2481 [21:03] <AlphaBlend> sorry, I'm thinking pistons..
#2482 [21:03] <xales> I can't remember if it was in infdev
#2483 [21:03] <xales> I think not
#2484 [21:03] <Garmeer> pistons are like, 1.8
#2485 [21:03] <AlphaBlend> pistons were in 1.7
#2486 [21:03] <Garmeer> ^
#2487 [21:04] <Brandon_> xales how can i tell which it is? and if the first option is true, shouldn't i be playing the old version on my pc, and not the newest one displayed on the website? (the title screen is displaying the version listed on the main screen on the website)
#2488 [21:04] <xales> That would depend on when the person last signed in.
#2489 [21:05] <xales> And no, it would not really be easily possible to determine that, especially not without deleting the game files (which would render you unable to play it)
#2490 [21:05] <Brandon_> ps...i just did a windows search for all files named "minecraft" and it only showed the exe launcher in my "downloads" folder
#2491 [21:05] <xales> Just take what you have (the ability to play single-player for free) and enjoy it
#2492 [21:05] <xales> ._.
#2493 [21:05] <MorbidWolf13> How long it take to Charge if I buy it now for the PC?
#2494 [21:05] <AlphaBlend> Added redstone dust. It is named "Red Ore Dust".
#2495 [21:05] <AlphaBlend> 1.0.1 alpha
#2496 [21:05] <xales> Yes, the crappy Windows Search doesn't index the locations that applications store files that are actually important.
#2497 [21:05] <xales> MorbidWolf13: Generally, immediately.
#2498 [21:05] <MorbidWolf13> Ok. Thank you.
#2499 [21:05] <xales> MorbidWolf13: There are some cases where it will deny the card, then still go to a receipt page.
#2500 [21:06] <xales> MorbidWolf13: If the charge was successful, you will get an email.
#2501 [21:06] <xales> MorbidWolf13: Often, banks will deny the transaction, as Mojang, the company that makes Minecraft, is located in Sweden, and it would be considered an international transaction.
#2502 [21:06] <AlphaBlend> Lord_Ralex: When did you buy Minecraft?
#2503 [21:06] <xales> If it was denied, you would have to contact your bank to get them to permit it, then try the charge again.
#2504 [21:06] <Lord_Ralex> AlphaBlend, uh,
#2505 [21:06] <AlphaBlend> I bought it as Minecraft 1.2.6 alpha, 5 days before beta came out
#2506 [21:07] <mattym> Dammmm
#2507 [21:07] <Lord_Ralex> april 2011
#2508 [21:07] <AlphaBlend> ah
#2509 [21:07] <AlphaBlend> much earlier than I
#2510 [21:07] <AlphaBlend> :)
#2511 [21:07] <Garmeer> I only got it during beta 1.6
#2512 [21:07] <Lord_Ralex> AlphaBlend, no?
#2513 [21:07] <AlphaBlend> oops
#2514 [21:07] <Lord_Ralex> i was in beta
#2515 [21:07] <AlphaBlend> 2011
#2516 [21:07] <AlphaBlend> not 2010...
#2517 [21:07] <AlphaBlend> for me was December 2010
#2518 [21:07] <Lord_Ralex> i was a bit late to the party
#2519 [21:07] <AlphaBlend> yeah well
#2520 [21:07] <xales> lol
#2521 [21:08] <xales> I got it in November of '10
#2522 [21:08] <xales> I think
#2523 [21:08] <AlphaBlend> it was well into a year and a half since Notch first started working on it
#2524 [21:08] <AlphaBlend> still, i got it even a year before he handed it over to Jens
#2525 [21:08] <Brandon_> xales...i'm sorry to keep bugging you....but if someone had a pirated version or an old version on my pc, then couldn't it comprimise my computer or something? (i just don't get why my launcher won't connect under my login, but yet the game still displays the most current version...don't you need the launcher to connect to have the most up to date version off the game?)
#2526 [21:08] <mattym> I played around with classic for like a month then baught it in Dec '10
#2527 [21:09] <AlphaBlend> i've played around with WoM (an alternative classic client) with some classic servers
#2528 [21:09] <xales> Brandon_: Only if that version is not already the one that is there. It is unlikely that having a pirated copy would compromise anything. If you're exceedingly paranoid, you could pay someone to look at it for you.
#2529 [21:09] <Lord_Ralex> oh wow
#2530 [21:09] <AlphaBlend> i'm surprised there are still al ot of classic servers around
#2531 [21:09] <xales> lol WoM
#2532 [21:09] <Lord_Ralex> cows in the pc gamer demo have pc gamer on their side....
#2533 [21:09] <AlphaBlend> :D
#2534 [21:09] <AlphaBlend> yep!
#2535 [21:09] <Garmeer> it wouldnt harm your cimputer unless there was some kind of trojan in the pirate download
#2536 [21:09] <xales> AlphaBlend: most of them are nuts or are like 11 and their parents don't want them to spend money on the Internet
#2537 [21:09] <xales> :p
#2538 [21:09] <AlphaBlend> YA
#2539 [21:09] <AlphaBlend> that's the thing
#2540 [21:10] <AlphaBlend> a ton of kids play this game
#2541 [21:10] <AlphaBlend> but it's maintained by adults
#2542 [21:10] <AlphaBlend> i mean
#2543 [21:10] <AlphaBlend> err
#2544 [21:10] <AlphaBlend> a lot of adults play it too
#2545 [21:10] <cestislife> It's fun
#2546 [21:10] <mattym> The vast amount of children made the first Minecon a pain for us adults
#2547 [21:10] <xales> haha you went to Minecon
#2548 [21:10] * xales feels your pain
#2548 [21:10] <mattym> Linecon
#2549 [21:10] <xales> I debated having a booth there
#2550 [21:10] <xales> but nope
#2551 [21:10] <Garmeer> fow aht? :p
#2552 [21:11] <Garmeer> for what*
#2553 [21:11] <xales> didn't have the time, money, or care
#2554 [21:11] <Garmeer> I cant type...
#2555 [21:11] <xales> was going to be lulzy and make an Esper booth
#2556 [21:11] <xales> :D
#2557 [21:11] <AlphaBlend> mattyn: Jealous :(
#2558 [21:11] <xales> make a bunch of Esper T-shirts and sell em or something
#2559 [21:11] <xales> Esper actually has a nice logo
#2560 [21:11] <AlphaBlend> I want to go to minecon, z.z
#2561 [21:11] <mattym> Hey i heard i was in Vegas, and decided to end a week in vegas with minecon
#2562 [21:11] <xales> :p
#2563 [21:12] <cestislife> That's largely convenient.
#2564 [21:12] <AlphaBlend> did you talk to amy of the mojangstas?
#2565 [21:12] <AlphaBlend> any*
#2566 [21:12] <xales> if it's on the east coast next time I might show up
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#2568 [21:12] <mattym> over a yeah later and i think im still paying that trip off
#2569 [21:12] <mattym> year*
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#2571 [21:12] <AlphaBlend> haha
#2572 [21:12] <xales> thatsvegasforyou.ng
#2573 [21:12] <Brandon_> so the only way i could ask someone from mojang about this, is to pay them? (it doesn't even seem they have a customer service contact method via their account help page) It just doesn't make logical sense as I have had this computer over a year...and it's been less than a year since the previous update to minecraft. MEANING, nobody has had posession of my computer within the last year to have dowloaded version 1.4.7 ont
#2574 [21:12] <xales> .png*
#2575 [21:12] * Moose\Away is now known as Moose
#2576 [21:13] <xales> Brandon_: We are customer support.
#2577 [21:13] <mattym> Well i had a long convo with dbone, but at the time he wasnt a mojangsta AlphaBlend
#2578 [21:13] <xales> Brandon_: And, perhaps say, a family member or such did it?
#2579 [21:13] <Garmeer> ask 'em if they maybe downloaded minecraft
#2580 [21:14] <Brandon_> I'm single, live with my aunt who a.) doesn't know my windows login password and 2.) she's 64 and wouldn't want to play minecraft lol
#2581 [21:14] <AlphaBlend> dbone and i have IRC'd quite a few times, and he's been on my server before
#2582 [21:14] <xales> /Someone/ else had to have done something; even if it was a cracked version, the game files wouldn't just magically be there.
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#2584 [21:14] <AlphaBlend> Brandon_ It's you!
#2585 [21:15] <AlphaBlend> wait...
#2586 [21:15] <Brandon_> alpha, i think you have me confused w/ someone else...t's my first time here
#2587 [21:15] <Brandon_> lol
#2588 [21:15] <AlphaBlend> Someone else has your name that i talk to
#2589 [21:15] <Brandon_> Sorry :(
#2590 [21:15] <AlphaBlend> and their non-away name happens to be Brandon_ I think
#2591 [21:15] <AlphaBlend> XD
#2592 [21:15] <Brandon_> didn't mean to dissapoint
#2593 [21:15] <AlphaBlend> ahh it's fine
#2594 [21:15] <mattym> i see the username brandon almost as much as i see killer
#2595 [21:16] <Lord_Ralex> i wonder...
#2596 [21:16] <Lord_Ralex> hah
#2597 [21:16] <Brandon_> xales...to test your theory, where do the actual files for the game download to?
#2598 [21:16] <Lord_Ralex> helpme is not registered
#2599 [21:16] <mattym> MinecraftDad is also a common one i see in this channel
#2600 [21:16] <Brandon_> and ya, for some reason brandon is now a very popular name in the society
#2601 [21:17] <mattym> apparantly so is Keith
#2602 [21:17] <Brandon_> not in 1984, but for some reason now-a-days it is lol
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#2604 [21:18] <Brandon_> xales?
#2605 [21:18] <xales> ??> Brandon_ win/.minecraft
#2606 [21:18] <VoxelHead> Brandon_: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
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#2608 [21:19] <xales> mattym: they are usually the same person :p
#2609 [21:19] <Forbus> hey I tried to download a mod and after that the game wont load it kept crashing....
#2610 [21:19] <mattym> nah ive seen some on withing a few hours of each other, different ips
#2611 [21:19] <xales> mattym: neither of the two you mentioned were different people :p
#2612 [21:19] <xales> ??> Forbus forceupdate
#2613 [21:19] <VoxelHead> Forbus: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2614 [21:20] <VoxelHead> Forbus: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2615 [21:20] <Brandon_> ...
#2616 [21:20] <Brandon_> .....how...the hell......
#2617 [21:20] <cestislife> ?
#2618 [21:20] <xales> mattym: http://pastebin.com/yAtWf7EX
#2619 [21:20] <Garmeer> hes a really fast typer
#2620 [21:20] <Brandon_> xales...the files are there....for some reason.
#2621 [21:20] <Forbus> Ok thanks ill give it a try
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#2623 [21:20] <xales> Brandon_: Check the modification/creation date?
#2624 [21:21] <Brandon_> but i swear to god i never downloaded them as obviously i can't even connect to the standalone launcher
#2625 [21:21] <Brandon_> *checking*
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#2627 [21:21] <Brandon_> created sunday, february 10th
#2628 [21:22] <xales> So what were you doing last Sunday, then? :p
#2629 [21:23] <mattym> ah, one of the keiths had a dynamic ip my bad
#2630 [21:23] <Brandon_> 3 days ago when i dowloaded the launcher from the website...but i could never log on to the launcher so therefore, i never engaged in any download of files....especially considering the files are 63.6 mb...and on my dsl wounldn't be quick at all
#2631 [21:23] <xales> Brandon_: well, someone must have
#2632 [21:24] <mattym> Brandon_ If it aint broke, don't fix it.
#2633 [21:24] <xales> ^
#2634 [21:24] <Brandon_> sunday i heard about the game from my dad...went home from work...went the website...created an account...downloaded the launcher...and tried to login, couldn't...but clicked "play offline" instead...and have been playing ever since
#2635 [21:25] <mattym> did you ever try to play it on the site?
#2636 [21:25] <Brandon_> touche mattym...i just don't want to be considered to be stealing the game...i never payed any money for it...
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#2638 [21:25] <xales> if some accident occurred that resulted in you getting single-player for free, then congratulations
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#2640 [21:25] <mattym> as far as we are concerned, if the game messed up and lets you play offline, go for it
#2641 [21:25] <xales> nobody really cares, and you wouldn't be considered "stealing"
#2642 [21:25] <Brandon_> ummm...i think i tried the java "online" version, but because of my dsl conenction, it wasn't working well so i downloaded the launcher instead
#2643 [21:26] <xales> oddly enough that might have been related to why it did that
#2644 [21:26] <mattym> thats how the files got on your game
#2645 [21:26] <mattym> on your PC rather
#2646 [21:26] <AlphaBlend> :O
#2647 [21:26] <mattym> Does it let you play on any one map for over an hour?
#2648 [21:27] <Brandon_> ok....well if that's true you might want to check into that loophole then lol. If other people hear about this, and word gets around, sales dept. will not be happy about it's effects on the companies gross profit lol
#2649 [21:27] <Brandon_> i have been on my world for like.....8 rl hours
#2650 [21:27] <Brandon_> hangon...checking something...
#2651 [21:27] <mattym> Very few people get into minecraft and are just satisfied with single player
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#2653 [21:30] <Lord_Ralex> \that sucks
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#2655 [21:30] <Brandon_> xales?...still here?
#2656 [21:31] <Brandon_> times played: 14 worlds played: 5 saves loaded: 0 multiplayer joins: 14 games quit: 9 minutes played: .62d
#2657 [21:31] <Lord_Ralex> i would suggest a different nick
#2658 [21:31] <xales> yeah.
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#2661 [21:31] <Lord_Ralex> use a diff nick
#2662 [21:31] <Lord_Ralex> guy who owns it wants it
#2663 [21:31] <Brandon_> grrr...i keep getting d/c
#2664 [21:31] <Lord_Ralex> or at least is being stupid
#2665 [21:31] <Lord_Ralex> ./nick <new>
#2666 [21:32] <Lord_Ralex> use Brandon__ or something
#2667 [21:32] <Brandon_> xales...did you see what i posted before about my stats?
#2668 [21:32] <xales> yes
#2669 [21:32] <Lord_Ralex> Brandon_, i would suggesting changing your nick now, cause the owner appears to not want you to use that nick
#2670 [21:32] <Brandon_> here's the wierd part...i haven't eve played multiplayer yet...don't know how lol
#2671 [21:33] <xales> you wouldn't be able to unless you purchased it
#2672 [21:33] <Brandon_> alright hangon....switching handle to Bryst
#2673 [21:33] <Brandon_> alright hangon....switching handle to Bryst
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#2675 [21:33] <Lord_Ralex> ugh
#2676 [21:33] <Lord_Ralex> even said /nick .-.
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#2678 [21:34] <Bryst> back
#2679 [21:34] <Lord_Ralex> you can use /nick to change nicks
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#2681 [21:34] <Lord_Ralex> i.e. /nick New_Name
#2682 [21:34] <Bryst> so xales...why then did one of my stats say i have played multiplayer?
#2683 [21:34] <Bryst> times played: 14 worlds played: 5 saves loaded: 0 multiplayer joins: 14 games quit: 9 minutes played: .62d
#2684 [21:34] <Bryst> "14" ?????
#2685 [21:34] <Lord_Ralex> 0 multiplayer joins
#2686 [21:35] <dlkfhsl> I can't log in, saying I am inputting wrong info. reset password do it correctly but still wont let me in.
#2687 [21:35] <Bryst> no no...the text comes first ralex...i retyped it from the stats screen since i can't control-c it
#2688 [21:35] <Bryst> under multiplayer joins in my stats window, it says "14"
#2689 [21:35] <Lord_Ralex> oh, i see now
#2690 [21:35] <Lord_Ralex> ah
#2691 [21:36] <Lord_Ralex> single player is a server
#2692 [21:36] <Bryst> but....i've never played multiplayer
#2693 [21:36] <Lord_Ralex> it is probably counting that
#2694 [21:36] <Bryst> oh....maybe?
#2695 [21:36] <dlkfhsl> mojang account using e-mail and correct password
#2696 [21:36] <Bryst> oh....times played is equal to my multiplayer joins
#2697 [21:36] <dlkfhsl> I have sent several requests since November to get on and no one ever answers. can play off line though
#2698 [21:36] <Bryst> so that's true ralex
#2699 [21:37] <Bryst> so....can i assume then that for some reason i'll just be able to keep playing 1.4.7 offline?
#2700 [21:37] <xales> dlkfhsl: Are you logging in to the launcher using your Mojang email address?
#2701 [21:37] <xales> Bryst: Yes.
#2702 [21:37] <Lord_Ralex> Bryst, as long as you don't touch those files, yeah
#2703 [21:37] <Bryst> i try...but it says login failed
#2704 [21:38] <xales> Bryst: That was targeted at someone else, which is why it was prefixed with their name.
#2705 [21:38] <dlkfhsl> yes I am.
#2706 [21:38] <xales> dlkfhsl: Does your password have any non-alphanumeric characters (things that aren't a letter or number)?
#2707 [21:39] * frdmn is now known as frdmn|zZz
#2708 [21:39] <dlkfhsl> no, it does not. I keep resetting it and it says it's been changed. I use that one and it still won't let me on
#2709 [21:39] <mattym> did you complete your purchase?
#2710 [21:39] <dlkfhsl> yes, I have the number
#2711 [21:39] <Bryst> sorry xales....fail...
#2712 [21:40] <dlkfhsl> 736077764 October 13
#2713 [21:40] * mattym facepalm
#2713 [21:40] <mattym> dont post that here
#2714 [21:40] <dlkfhsl> ok
#2715 [21:41] <dlkfhsl> I have been requesting info since then for help and no one ever responds back
#2716 [21:41] <xales> dlkfhsl: Try temporarily disabling any and all antivirus/firewall software, as they may be blocking Minecraft.
#2717 [21:41] <Bryst> ralex...xales...thank you both for your help. I would just advise that is for some reason playing the online java mosde enables an illegitamit download of the actual files that somone over there will want to know
#2718 [21:41] <Bryst> ya know it...now that i think of it... i think i had to do a java update to try to initiate the playing online inititally...
#2719 [21:41] <mattym> ill try to test that on a clean system
#2720 [21:42] <Bryst> and the java update took a long time...
#2721 [21:42] <Bryst> perhaps, for some reason, through the java update it installed the current 1.4.7 files enabling the online demo of the game?
#2722 [21:43] <mattym> no
#2723 [21:43] <xales> It was when you tried to play the demo in your browser.
#2724 [21:44] <mattym> crap i actually have to play for over an hour to test that dont i?
#2725 [21:44] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, no?
#2726 [21:44] <xales> uhh
#2727 [21:44] <Bryst> oh...ok. Alright well...hope i like this version lol. at least you guys can maybe get an atta-boy from upper managing for mentioning this to them...espeically if other people are getting the same effect
#2728 [21:44] <Lord_Ralex> would take no more than a few minutes to set that
#2729 [21:45] <mattym> ?
#2730 [21:45] <Bryst> *manegment
#2731 [21:45] <cestislife> Well you still won't be able to play multiplayer.
#2732 [21:45] <Bryst> mattym.....ralex n xales will fill you in
#2733 [21:45] <cestislife> Minecraft is largely based around multiplayer, single player isn't just as fun.
#2734 [21:46] <Bryst> the website doesn't describe well what multiplayer allows you to do...
#2735 [21:46] <cestislife> Play with others basically, ability to connect to servers.
#2736 [21:46] <cestislife> Also it allows you to install a wider range of mods.
#2737 [21:46] <Bryst> so....i can allow someone else, let's say, to connect and see the world i have created?
#2738 [21:46] <cestislife> Pretty much, yes.
#2739 [21:47] <Bryst> oh that would be cool...maybe i'll do that once i build it up if i find someone to show it off to lol
#2740 [21:47] <Bryst> anyway, have a good evening everyone!!! Thank you again for all of your help and your time
#2741 [21:47] <xales> You can also join other worlds and play cooperatively (or not) with oters.
#2742 [21:47] <xales> You too.
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#2745 [21:50] <mattym> Lord_Ralex What did you mean when you were talking about it not taking more than a few minutes to test?
#2746 [21:50] <dlkfhsl> turned off firewall, still says login failed.
#2747 [21:50] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, what he was doing
#2748 [21:50] <xales> dlkfhsl: What is the name of the firewall you disabled?
#2749 [21:51] <dlkfhsl> it says I am logged in, but when I put e-mail address and password, it says login failed
#2750 [21:51] <dlkfhsl> it was Nortons until my computer crashed, now it is Webroot as of today
#2751 [21:51] <xales> What do you mean "it says I am logged in"?
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#2754 [21:52] <xales> also, ick
#2755 [21:52] <Schmitttyy> i have minecraft for the mac and whenever i start up my game i cant move like its lagging maybe
#2756 [21:53] <xales> Schmitttyy: Is this in a new world
#2757 [21:53] <xales> *?
#2758 [21:53] <Schmitttyy> yes
#2759 [21:53] <dlkfhsl> at the top of the Minecraft page, it says I am logged in as ********* e-mail address. when I try to login on minecraft lauhcher page it says login failed
#2760 [21:53] <xales> Schmitttyy: Destroy the block underneath you.
#2761 [21:54] <xales> dlkfhsl: Try redownloading the launcher. When you open it, click in both the username and password fields and press control-A to select all, and then delete everything. Type it in again.
#2762 [21:54] <Schmitttyy> i did i know the controls to minecraft and if im trapped or not this just seems like it may be a computer problem
#2763 [21:54] <xales> Schmitttyy: Are you moving /slowly/ or not at all?
#2764 [21:55] <Garmeer> I made a model :p
#2765 [21:55] <Garmeer> http://techne.zeux.me/21989587#
#2766 [21:55] <Schmitttyy> i can move eventually but is very delayed and slow
#2767 [21:55] <xales> Schmitttyy: Has Minecraft worked before?
#2768 [21:55] <Schmitttyy> no not on this new mac i bought
#2769 [21:55] <xales> Garmeer: This is a help channel, please take random conversation/unrelated things elsewhere.
#2770 [21:55] <Schmitttyy> it works for my pc
#2771 [21:55] <Garmeer> alright.
#2772 [21:56] <xales> Schmitttyy: What model/year of Mac is it?
#2773 [21:56] <Garmeer> mustard.
#2774 [21:56] <Schmitttyy> this year i think just bought it about two months ago
#2775 [21:56] <xales> And what model is it?
#2776 [21:57] <Schmitttyy> its a macbook pro
#2777 [21:58] <xales> Is it plugged in to power?
#2778 [21:58] <Schmitttyy> yes
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#2781 [21:58] <xales> Go to "Energy Saver" in "System Preferences" and untick the box that says "Automatic graphics switching"
#2782 [21:58] <xales> Then restart Minecraft
#2783 [21:59] <dlkfhsl> tried, but continues to say login failed. But it will allow to play off line.
#2784 [22:00] <xales> dlkfhsl: Are you able to play at http://minecraft.net/play ?
#2785 [22:01] <mattym> minecraft.net is currently down
#2786 [22:01] <dlkfhsl> yes
#2787 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> !isdown
#2788 [22:01] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2789 [22:01] <Schmitttyy> i dont see a thing for the automatic graph switching it just says stuff about computer sleep and display sleep
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#2791 [22:04] <xales> Hrm, okay then..
#2792 [22:05] <xales> Schmitttyy: Is there any unusual software on it, such as any alleged "antivirus" or "firewall" software?
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#2794 [22:05] <xales> (for example, Norton?)
#2795 [22:05] <Schmitttyy> yes
#2796 [22:05] <xales> What, specifically?
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#2799 [22:06] <Schmitttyy> its called webfoot secure anywhere
#2800 [22:06] <Schmitttyy> webroot
#2801 [22:06] <Schmitttyy> lol
#2802 [22:06] <xales> Running "antivirus" products on Macs is a Very Bad Idea™
#2803 [22:06] <xales> Macs aren't susceptible to malware in the same way Windows is.
#2804 [22:07] <Garmeer> *cough* windows sux *cough*
#2805 [22:07] <xales> The only way you're going to get anything harmful on your computer is if it found some way to download and run, and then after opening up the "(xxx) needs your permission to make changes" dialog, actually had you type your password int oit.
#2806 [22:07] <Elystus> ugh... malware pinged me
#2807 [22:07] <xales> That program is probably what is breaking Minecraft.
#2808 [22:07] <xales> Disabling it may fix the problem, but you should just remove it.
#2809 [22:08] <Schmitttyy> k ill try real quick
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#2811 [22:10] <dlkfhsl> i am able to play trial version.
#2812 [22:11] <Schmitttyy> your a wizard harry lol it worked i wouldve never figured that out thank you xales
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#2814 [22:11] <xales> dlkfhsl: You're able to sign into your account on http://account.mojang.com/ yes?
#2815 [22:12] <Schmitttyy> yup
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#2817 [22:13] <dlkfhsl> yes. it already has been migrated
#2818 [22:14] <xales> When you sign in, does it list Minecraft under "My Games"?
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#2822 [22:16] <mumhelpingson> hello trying to fix an issue for my son - we ran an update to java and since then have not been able to log into minecraft - yes we have tried the fixes as suggested on the trouble shoot page.
#2823 [22:17] <mattym> mumhelpingson Are you guys on a Mac?
#2824 [22:17] <mumhelpingson> nope pc
#2825 [22:17] <mumhelpingson> dell insprion 1520
#2826 [22:18] <mattym> have you already tried a complete reinstall of Java?
#2827 [22:18] <dlkfhsl> Where do you find "MY games?"
#2828 [22:19] <mumhelpingson> yes several tried of reinstalling java, have even removed and reinstalled
#2829 [22:19] <xales> dlkfhsl: When you first sign in on http://account.mojang.com/
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#2831 [22:19] <xales> mumhelpingson: What happens when you try to log in to Minecraft?
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#2833 [22:20] <mattym> mumhelpingson You may need to add Java back onto the exceptions list of your antivirus and/or firewall software
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#2835 [22:20] <dlkfhsl> the only thing listed is" my gift codes"
#2836 [22:20] <mumhelpingson> message in red can't connect to minecraft.net and black screen of death when trying to play offline
#2837 [22:21] <mumhelpingson> good call on the exceptions list will chekc that now ...
#2838 [22:21] <xales> dlkfhsl: Then there is no Minecraft profile associated with that account.
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#2840 [22:22] <dlkfhsl> It says there is!!!
#2841 [22:22] <dlkfhsl> We have tried over and over!
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#2844 [22:23] <xales> Where does it "say there is"?
#2845 [22:23] <xales> If it's not listed when you log in to account.mojang.com, then it's not there.
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#2847 [22:24] <dlkfhsl> If you already bought Minecraft you can migrate your Minecraft Account to a Mojang Account. Error! Your Minecraft account has already been migrated to a Mojang account. Go to the log in page and use your e-mail address to login
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#2849 [22:26] <dlkfhsl> https://account.mojang.com/migrate on this page, the above notice comes up when trying to migrate account
#2850 [22:26] <dlkfhsl> then we go to log in page and it says login failed
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#2853 [22:28] <xales> dlkfhsl: Does it say that on account.mojang.com?
#2854 [22:32] <xales> ("Login failed", that is)
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#2856 [22:33] <dlkfhsl> account.mojang.com says Did you know that if you've already bought Minecraft you can import your existing profile into this account? If you do, you should start using your Mojang account e-mail as username when logging in
#2857 [22:33] <dlkfhsl> and then it says gift codes
#2858 [22:33] <dlkfhsl> That's it. that's all it says.
#2859 [22:34] <xales> Then you've migrated your Minecraft account to a different Mojang account.
#2860 [22:34] <dlkfhsl> I'd really like to start over. I have been trying to do this for months for my son, apparently it's not working.
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#2862 [22:34] <xales> When you try to log into Minecraft with the username and password, rather than email, it says it's already been migrated, yes?
#2863 [22:35] <dlkfhsl> I don't even play this game, my son does
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#2865 [22:35] <dlkfhsl> no, it says login failed but on the other page it says that it's been migrated
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#2867 [22:36] <dlkfhsl> I even went through my e-mails to find something different. its always been the same
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#2871 [22:36] <dlkfhsl> I have put in the minecraft user name and then it says there is an error and to put in e-mail address and password then it says that it failed
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#2876 [22:37] <dlkfhsl> what phone number can I call to get this taken care of or my money returned so I can start over
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#2879 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to contact Mojang support at: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2880 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Make sure to include your transaction ID as proof of payment
#2881 [22:38] <dlkfhsl> I have tried contacting them since october and they will not return any messages or call me
#2882 [22:38] <dlkfhsl> OCTOBER, and it is February
#2883 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Mojang is a swedish based company with no worldwide toll free number for support
#2884 [22:39] <dlkfhsl> I have included my proof of payment!
#2885 [22:39] <xales> Did you use that form to contact them?
#2886 [22:39] <Lutzee> dlkfhsl: Mojang reply to every email, if you havent seen a reply then it may have been put in your spam folder by mistake
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#2888 [22:40] <dlkfhsl> I am on this site because I am completely frustrated. My 7 year old likes this game, I paid for it, downloaded, and e-mailed several times with no response
#2889 [22:40] <xales> Once again - did you use the form at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#2891 [22:40] <xales> If you did /not/, then there is a good chance you would not have received a reply.
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#2893 [22:40] <dlkfhsl> does it come from Mojang?
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#2895 [22:41] <dlkfhsl> because if it does, I get the reset password links, the verify e-mail links, etc.
#2896 [22:41] <xales> It would come from a different address.
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#2898 [22:41] <xales> Once again, please answer my question: Did you, or did you not, use the following form when you tried to contact Mojang: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#2901 [22:42] <mandalorian4u> So, I am having issues with logging into my minecraft account. I keep getting the error Fatal Error Occured (4): Null.
#2902 [22:42] <dlkfhsl> I used the form on the site, unfortunately they do not send me a copy of what I e-mail them. I just searched for Mojang in spam and nothing
#2903 [22:43] <mandalorian4u> I have literally tried everything, i have scoured forums, youtube, everything, and nothing is working
#2904 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> mandalorian4u - Usually is the result of your antivirus blocking minecraft from downloading. Try disabling your security software
#2905 [22:43] <dlkfhsl> I used the link that was listed on support page, I don't know what the exact address was
#2906 [22:44] <mandalorian4u> i tried the antivirus route and it did not work
#2907 [22:44] <mandalorian4u> i turned off everything in my anti virus
#2908 [22:44] <dlkfhsl> and yes, it looks very familiar
#2909 [22:44] <xales> mandalorian4u: Do you know how to get to the Application Data folder?
#2910 [22:44] <mandalorian4u> yes
#2911 [22:44] <mandalorian4u> i deleted the bin folder
#2912 [22:45] <xales> mandalorian4u: Go there, find the folder called ".minecraft" and rename it to "oldminecraft"
#2913 [22:45] <mandalorian4u> ok
#2914 [22:45] <mandalorian4u> done
#2915 [22:45] <xales> dlkfhsl: The fast, easy route is to buy Minecraft again on the Mojang account you have. The more difficult route is to find what Mojang account it /was/ migrated to. Do you, or your son, have any other email addresses that might have been used?
#2916 [22:45] <xales> mandalorian4u: See if Minecraft will run now.
#2917 [22:46] <mandalorian4u> ok, one moment
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#2919 [22:46] <dlkfhsl> no and I paid 30 for the game, why should I rebuy it?
#2920 [22:46] <dlkfhsl> No other e-mails were used he is 7 by the way
#2921 [22:47] <mandalorian4u> ok, still getting the same message
#2922 [22:48] <mandalorian4u> im sorry, is that for me?
#2923 [22:49] <xales> mandalorian4u: No - are you sure you've disabled your antivirus software (what, specifically?)
#2924 [22:49] <mandalorian4u> yes, everything was turned off
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#2926 [22:49] <xales> dlkfhsl: You're sure that when you try to sign in with the Minecraft account, it said it was already migrated, and that it's not listed on account.mojang.com?
#2927 [22:49] <mandalorian4u> when i try to launch the minecraft.exe, it keeps making a new .minecraft folder
#2928 [22:49] <xales> mandalorian4u: That's what it's supposed to do
#2929 [22:50] <xales> mandalorian4u: What antivirus program are you using?
#2930 [22:50] <mandalorian4u> Norton
#2931 [22:50] <xales> ick.
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#2933 [22:51] <xales> My first thought is to try uninstalling Norton, as it's total garbage and is known to cause problems with just about everything (even when disabled)
#2934 [22:51] <mandalorian4u> this is very frustrating. it was working fine earlier today, and then i deleted MC, and now it isnt working
#2935 [22:51] <dlkfhsl> I am absolutely POSITIVE that this is the error. I don't know a lot about computers but I think this is easy enough and I am doing everything exactly right. I have tried several times several different days and had others also try and it's the same thing.
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#2937 [22:52] <xales> dlkfhsl: There is nothing you can try differently - if those are what the errors are, then the account was migrated to a Mojang account other than the one you are trying to use.
#2938 [22:53] <mandalorian4u> so, what can i do here? is there any fix for this?
#2939 [22:53] <mandalorian4u> why was it working earlier and now it doesnt work at all?
#2940 [22:53] <xales> mandalorian4u: It's almost certainly your antivirus then - once again, you might try either adding an exception in Norton (may not do much), or just uninstalling Norton completely.
#2941 [22:53] <dlkfhsl> I don't have another mojang account. how do I find out if there is another one. I have pulled up everything from MOJANG and they all are listing the same e-mail address
#2942 [22:54] <Wug> mandalorian4u: if you add an exception you'll have to add it for java, not minecraft.exe
#2943 [22:54] <xales> dlkfhsl: It was either migrated by you to another Mojang account, or someone stole the account and migrated it for you (which would be a result of the password somehow being given out).
#2944 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> You can get the complete answer if you contact mojang with your transaction ID and wait for an answer
#2945 [22:54] <xales> ^
#2946 [22:54] <mandalorian4u> ok, how do i add an exception?
#2947 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, we have no access to accounts here, and thus, cannot help you with such matters
#2948 [22:55] <xales> mandalorian4u: You'll have to Google it, or look in the documentation for Norton. It's crap, nobody here uses it, and I doubt anyone here knows how to use it off the top of their head.
#2949 [22:55] <xales> The best thing to do really would be just temporarily removing it.
#2950 [22:55] <xales> You can always reinstall it if you decide to do that.
#2951 [22:56] <mandalorian4u> is there a better antivirus software i could use? i have a lot of issues with norton
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#2953 [22:57] <xales> Yes, there are a number of better, free ones out there.
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#2955 [22:57] <xales> GreyVulpine: What's your latest recommendation?
#2956 [22:57] <mandalorian4u> such as?
#2957 [22:57] <xales> mandalorian4u: Avira (try this first), Avast!, paid version of MalwareBytes ($26 one-time)
#2958 [22:58] <xales> Just make absolutely sure that Norton is /completely/ removed first, or they will conflict, possibly rendering your computer unusable.
#2959 [22:58] <xales> If it tells you to reboot after uninstalling it, you /must/ do that before trying to install a different antivirus software.
#2960 [22:58] <cestislife> This should help - https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/kb20080710133834EN_EndUserProfile_en_us
#2961 [22:58] * GreyVulpine shrugs
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#2963 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> I've used Eset's NOD32 for over a decade now with no complaints
#2964 [22:59] <Wug> lol @ render unusable
#2965 [22:59] <helpggg> Help, it will not send my receipt to my account
#2966 [22:59] <Wug> implying there is a computer in the world I couldn't use
#2967 [22:59] <xales> helpggg: Did you purchase Minecraft?
#2968 [22:59] <dlkfhsl> thanks for your help.
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#2970 [23:00] <helpggg> it said my card was declined but then it said it was sending the receipt but i haventt got it
#2971 [23:00] <xales> If your card was declined, there will not be a receipt as there was no charge.
#2972 [23:00] <Wug> helpggg: if it says the card was declined you wont get a receipt
#2973 [23:00] <helpggg> The account has money on it
#2974 [23:00] <Wug> call the card provider
#2975 [23:00] <helpggg> k
#2976 [23:00] <Wug> they block international transactions automatically sometimes
#2977 [23:00] <xales> Your bank may have placed a hold on the funds pending verification, as purchasing Minecraft is considered an international purchase.
#2978 [23:01] <xales> You're not trying to pay with a "gift card" or "prepaid card" are you?
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#2980 [23:02] <Wug> I guess that's a no.
#2981 [23:02] * Wug pets xales
#2981 [23:02] <xales> more of a "derp"
#2982 [23:02] * xales meows
#2982 [23:02] <Wug> good kitty
#2983 [23:02] * xales swishes tail and turns around to look at Wug
#2983 [23:02] * xales meows again
#2983 [23:02] * xales jumps onto Wug's hand and bites it
#2983 [23:02] * GreyVulpine sprays Wug down with catnip
#2983 [23:02] <Wug> I should write a cat module for wugbot
#2984 [23:03] <Wug> how exactly does one spray catnip
#2985 [23:03] <Wug> isn't it a solid
#2986 [23:03] * TyanColte|2 [TyanColte|2@notlogged] has quit. (Ping timeout: 380 seconds)
#2987 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> http://www.zootoo.com/pet-product/cat-catnip-products1/pet-catnip-in-a-bottle-premium-treat-for-cats
#2988 [23:04] <Wug> well I guess I learned something today
#2989 [23:04] <xales> lol catnip
#2990 [23:04] * xales sprays catnip in Wug's eyes
#2990 [23:04] * Wug jumps into hyperspace; xales becomes the first ever cat to survive a trip through hyperspace on the outside of Wug's tardis
#2990 [23:05] * xales was born in the TARDIS
#2990 [23:05] <Wug> do you have a time head?
#2991 [23:05] <xales> ?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?
#2992 [23:05] <xales> yes
#2993 [23:05] <xales> maybe
#2994 [23:05] <Wug> good
#2995 [23:05] <Wug> we'll need one sometime
#2996 [23:05] <xales> WHO KNOWS
#2997 [23:05] <xales> Wug there's a new BotServ bot
#2998 [23:06] <Wug> you told me about it the other day
#2999 [23:06] <xales> orly
#3000 [23:06] <Wug> spock?
#3001 [23:06] <xales> yes
#3002 [23:06] <Wug> you should rename it robospock
#3003 [23:06] <xales> DIE QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY
#3004 [23:06] <xales> aka
#3005 [23:06] <xales> DO NOT LIVE LONG AND PROSPER
#3006 [23:07] <Wug> or, you could rename it to
#3007 [23:07] <Wug> ��f
#3008 [23:07] <Wug> S�%f���V�jm��A��\�3x�wM�h�̩)�߿G��r�aJ1N��FB�S�ἁ�п[[�U)���!<O�"��/`u�a�V�c�c��Ǥ�1�}����6�}�,�G��f"w9p�s��)�6�Jy�/�o�/��h�`�`sRTr
#3009 [23:07] <Wug> and watch as services dies horribly
#3010 [23:07] <mattym> lol
#3011 [23:07] <xales> yes I can do /shell head /dev/urandom too mr. Wug
#3012 [23:07] <Wug> because there is no checking at all
#3013 [23:07] <xales> lol really
#3014 [23:07] <Wug> it will just rename itself, and services will split
#3015 [23:07] <xales> I was about to make a bot called Teal'c
#3016 [23:07] <Wug> ive done it before
#3017 [23:07] <Wug> yeah dont
#3018 [23:07] <xales> I'M GLAD I TESTED IT FIRST
#3019 [23:08] <xales> by tested I mean "telnet client"
#3020 [23:08] <Wug> if you did it I'd probably bust a rib from laughing
#3021 [23:08] <xales> :|
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#3023 [23:08] <Wug> the best part is that you can't fix it from within irc
#3024 [23:08] <Wug> services will repeatedly reconnect and re-split
#3025 [23:08] <xales> I'd take advantage of the confusion to set a permanent global kline on you
#3026 [23:08] <xales> :p
#3027 [23:09] <Kobemamba24> Hey, anyone know a block that would look good as like a storage crate? Can't be planks
#3028 [23:09] <xales> uhh
#3029 [23:09] <xales> not really no
#3030 [23:09] <Wug> someone would have to ssh into the box its on, shut it down, and manually purge the borked entry from the database
#3031 [23:09] <xales> lol
#3032 [23:10] * Wug tattles on xales to everyone
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#3036 [23:17] <SgtLeo> hello
#3037 [23:17] <SgtLeo> i cant open minecraft, can someone help
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#3039 [23:18] <Wug-> SgtLeo: ok
#3040 [23:18] <SgtLeo> when i double click minecraft nothing happens.
#3041 [23:18] <Wug> has it always done this or has it worked on that computer in the past
#3042 [23:18] <SgtLeo> it worked in the past
#3043 [23:18] <SgtLeo> what is CTCP
#3044 [23:19] <Wug> SgtLeo: pay no heed
#3045 [23:19] <Wug> have you updated java lately, or has it updated itself
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#3047 [23:21] <Wug> SgtLeo: you still there
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#3051 [23:25] <case_> i bought minecraft online and after a little bit i restored my laptop and lost the download. i already paid for it so can i redownload it for free?
#3052 [23:26] <Lord_Ralex> just download the launcher from http://minecraft.net/download and log in, it will redownload the game for you
#3053 [23:26] <Lord_Ralex> however you will not have any worlds you had previously or texture packs unless you made a backup of them yourself
#3054 [23:26] <case_> ok thank you
#3055 [23:27] <tyteen4a03> xales, now now who is that workaholic :P
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#3057 [23:28] <mattym> Do you mean to tell me that in the process of finding the link to this irc chat case_ did not once see the download option?
#3058 [23:35] <AndrewPH> prolly not
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