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#5 [00:11] <LexisWorld777> okay...how do i log out of this forum? anybody? thank you.
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#7 [00:12] <Wug> LexisWorld777: just close the tab. it will ask you if you're sure, click yes
#8 [00:13] <LexisWorld777> thank you :)
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#15 [00:41] <tony8128> Hello, I was cheated to buy an illegal Minecraft key some time before, and was denied access to minecraft after migrating my Minecraft account to my Mojang account. Now I have bought another one legally with the same Mojang account, but when I tried to use my old Minecraft account, the system told me "Your Minecraft account has already been migrated to a Mojang account". Then how can I use my old M
#16 [00:41] <tony8128> inecraft username? Thank you.
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#31 [01:55] <tony8128> um... may i ask that on average how long would it take the custom service to reply after i have sent my email?
#32 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
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#34 [02:00] <tony8128> thanks
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#37 [02:02] <Wug> what should I name my dlna server
#38 [02:03] <Tavon> I am having a problem running minecraft for the first time.
#39 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Streamin'Wug
#40 [02:03] <Tavon> I downloaded the .exe file, but it will not load.
#41 [02:03] <Wug> I like WugTorrent
#42 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> 24/7 WugTrainofLoveâ„¢
#43 [02:03] <Tavon> Can anyone help?
#44 [02:03] <Wug> Tavon: what do you mean "won't load"?
#45 [02:04] <Tavon> The .exe file will not run.
#46 [02:04] <Wug> does it do anything at all? does [singleplayer] minecraft work?
#47 [02:04] <Tavon> I click it. I get an avg message asking me for permission to run, I click allow. Then, nothing.
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#50 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall/reinstall java
#51 [02:05] <Tavon> It does nothing at all - i cannot even find it in the task manager list.
#52 [02:05] <Wug> sounds like borken java to me
#53 [02:05] <Tavon> kk.
#54 [02:05] <Wug> it would be listed as javaw.exe, not as minecraftserver.exe
#55 [02:05] <Wug> all it is is a wrapper to start java
#56 [02:05] <th3_c0k3m4st3r> I was changing some villager nbt files and whenever i load my world it crashes. please help
#57 [02:06] <Wug> th3_c0k3m4st3r: you made backups right
#58 [02:06] <Wug> <ominous glare>
#59 [02:06] <th3_c0k3m4st3r> Sadly, no.
#60 [02:06] <Wug> your best bet is to open the world with mcedit and try to delete the villagers
#61 [02:06] <Wug> it will be a very trial and error process
#62 [02:06] <Tavon> I am reloading my Java - 3 minutes or so.
#63 [02:07] <Wug> have you done anything important with the world?
#64 [02:07] <Wug> if not, I'd just recreate it. the effort required to unbreak it would not be trivial
#65 [02:08] <th3_c0k3m4st3r> I spent a lot of time on this world so if i hav to start over i would be :*(
#66 [02:08] <Wug> you get an error message when it crashes right? please pastebin it
#67 [02:09] <th3_c0k3m4st3r> Whenever i upload my worlds to mc edit it just appears as a blank void.
#68 [02:09] <Wug> update mcedit
#69 [02:09] <Wug> you might be using an old version that doesnt support the latest world format
#70 [02:09] <Wug> its been a while since it was released but if you have a several month old version
#71 [02:10] <th3_c0k3m4st3r> I will try it out.
#72 [02:10] <th3_c0k3m4st3r> Here is the crash report:
#73 [02:10] <th3_c0k3m4st3r> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Don't be sad, have a hug! <3 Time: 2/15/13 11:01 PM Description: Unexpected error java.lang.NullPointerException at lm.f(SourceFile:107) at va.l(SourceFile:181) at ur.r(SourceFile:334) at atr.a(SourceFile:281) at ban.b(SourceFile:756) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.J(SourceFile:605) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:534) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unkno
#74 [02:10] <Wug> ?? pastebin
#75 [02:10] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#76 [02:11] <th3_c0k3m4st3r> Oh ok thx
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#78 [02:13] <th3_c0k3m4st3r> Wug here's the link : http://pastebin.com/rWrDGczy
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#80 [02:17] <SinZ> ooh, pretty NPE
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#90 [02:31] <EmmaLouise1313> I play Minecraft online in my browser, and all of the players/mobs appear a slight grayish-black color. I can see people's skins, but they're like, almost grayed out. Same with mobs, chests, and signs. Anyone know what's wrong, and how I can fix it? Thanks!
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#105 [03:07] <clovisd> I have an issue with setting up my perms for my bukkit server using PermissionsEx
#106 [03:07] <Wug> clovisd: go to #permissionsEx
#107 [03:07] <clovisd> ah okay, thanks :D
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#111 [03:22] <Sean__> Hi i'm having a problem on windows 8, when i launch the game i get a black screen
#112 [03:29] <cestislife> Sean__, this means the game has crashed, most likely due to outdated drivers, did it provide a crash log?
#113 [03:29] <cestislife> If not, try to obtain it following this guide - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#114 [03:31] <Sean__> I deleted all minecraft, and are now trying to start all over again. Do i still have acces to crash reports?
#115 [03:32] <cestislife> It should be under /.minecraft/crash reports/ or along the lines of that.
#116 [03:32] <cestislife> If not, then redownload the game first.
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#118 [03:40] <Sean__> I will try that. Thank You
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#124 [03:47] <McWireduphosting> Hello
#125 [03:47] <McWireduphosting> Their everyone
#126 [03:50] <McWireduphosting> Not much conversation
#127 [03:50] <McWireduphosting> Going around...
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#129 [03:51] <roazer> How can I play minecraft? It started updating and not it says done loading but doesn´t go any further
#130 [03:51] <cestislife> roazer: Usually due to the client not being able to communicate with the servers correctly.
#131 [03:51] <cestislife> Disable your antivirus, or let it through your firewall temporarily to let it load.
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#133 [03:57] <roazer> antivirus and firewall turned off, problem not solved
#134 [03:57] <McWireduphosting> What?
#135 [03:58] <roazer> How can I play minecraft? It started updating and not it says done loading but doesn´t go any further
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#137 [03:58] <Benjamin> hi
#138 [03:59] <roazer> Please can anyone help?
#139 [04:00] <roazer> helloo?
#140 [04:01] <roazer> Fine.
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#142 [04:02] <McWireduphosting> Ill help you
#143 [04:02] <McWireduphosting> Roazer
#144 [04:02] <benhunter09> He left
#145 [04:02] <McWireduphosting> Dang
#146 [04:02] <Benjamin> i can also try to help you
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#148 [04:03] <McWireduphosting> With wha
#149 [04:03] <YinTaiYang> whenever a fireball renders
#150 [04:03] <YinTaiYang> it crshes
#151 [04:03] <McWireduphosting> Ok
#152 [04:03] <McWireduphosting> Are you using any moded clients
#153 [04:03] <McWireduphosting> Like things
#154 [04:03] <Benjamin> yin how much ram do you have
#155 [04:03] <McWireduphosting> Is it client lagg
#156 [04:03] <McWireduphosting> Or is it server lagg
#157 [04:03] <McWireduphosting> :P
#158 [04:03] <YinTaiYang> 2048 MB allocated to minecraft
#159 [04:04] <McWireduphosting> Hmmmm
#160 [04:04] <McWireduphosting> That should be enough
#161 [04:04] <McWireduphosting> Are you on a server
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#163 [04:04] <YinTaiYang> yup
#164 [04:04] <McWireduphosting> Do you have any moded clients
#165 [04:04] <YinTaiYang> happens on all servers
#166 [04:04] <McWireduphosting> Do you have a modded client
#167 [04:04] <YinTaiYang> when i downloaded a different launcher called MinecraftSP it doesn't crash
#168 [04:05] <McWireduphosting> Just
#169 [04:05] <McWireduphosting> Awnser the question
#170 [04:05] <McWireduphosting> Please
#171 [04:05] <Benjamin> you can try vanila
#172 [04:05] <YinTaiYang> strangely
#173 [04:05] <YinTaiYang> it only happens when i use the actual one
#174 [04:05] <YinTaiYang> Modded client?
#175 [04:05] <YinTaiYang> forge
#176 [04:05] <YinTaiYang> without forge same thing
#177 [04:06] <McWireduphosting> Ok
#178 [04:06] <McWireduphosting> I suggest
#179 [04:06] <Benjamin> when minecraft crash what is so happening
#180 [04:06] <McWireduphosting> Delete the minecraft bin file
#181 [04:06] <McWireduphosting> And will recreate
#182 [04:06] <McWireduphosting> it
#183 [04:06] <McWireduphosting> Or force update
#184 [04:07] <McWireduphosting> Only Idea I can come up with
#185 [04:08] <Benjamin> if that mcwiredubhosting sed dident work i guess you need more ram
#186 [04:08] <YinTaiYang> still doesn't work
#187 [04:08] <McWireduphosting> Ben
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#189 [04:08] <McWireduphosting> What
#190 [04:08] <McWireduphosting> Dude
#191 [04:08] <McWireduphosting> 2Gb
#192 [04:08] <YinTaiYang> benjamin 2GB of RAM isn't enough for a single fireball?
#193 [04:08] <McWireduphosting> Is enough
#194 [04:09] <McWireduphosting> 2Gb is over enough
#195 [04:09] <Benjamin> ok
#196 [04:09] <McWireduphosting> Do you have a texture pack?
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#199 [04:09] <McWireduphosting> www.wireduphosting.net Shhh
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#201 [04:10] <McWireduphosting> Warchicken
#202 [04:10] <McWireduphosting> Need any help :/
#203 [04:10] <warchicken> hello
#204 [04:10] <warchicken> me ?
#205 [04:10] <McWireduphosting> yes
#206 [04:11] <warchicken> no thank you
#207 [04:11] <YinTaiYang> no
#208 [04:11] <YinTaiYang> default texture
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#211 [04:20] <Sean__> Hi i have got the following error. ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Don't be sad, have a hug! <3 Time: 16-02-13 10:16 Description: Exception while adding particle java.lang.NullPointerException at com.pclewis.mcpatcher.mod.ColorMap.colorize(ColorMap.java:74) at com.pclewis.mcpatcher.mod.Colorizer.colorizeBiome(Colorizer.java:191) at azz.<init>(SourceFile:11) at bav.b(RenderGlobal.java:1935) at bav.a(RenderGlobal.java:1866) at yc.a
#212 [04:20] <Lutzee> ??> Sean__ forceupdate
#213 [04:20] <VoxelHead> Sean__: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#214 [04:20] <VoxelHead> Sean__: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#217 [04:24] <Sean__> I still crash, can it have something to do with the fact that i removed some of the mods?
#218 [04:26] <Sean__> java.lang.NullPointerException at ban.e(SourceFile:257) at ban.a(SourceFile:101) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.l(SourceFile:1320) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.J(SourceFile:582) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:534) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows: ---------------------------------------------------------------------
#219 [04:28] <Benjamin> sean do you have a ATI Radeon HD graphic card ?
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#222 [04:29] <Sean__> No i have NVIDIA Geforce GT630M
#223 [04:30] <Benjamin> ok
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#226 [04:30] <Benjamin> on that crash whats the title ?
#227 [04:31] <Benjamin> Sean
#228 [04:32] <Sean__> Exception while adding particle
#229 [04:34] <Lutzee> Sean__: Remove your mods then try again, we dont provide support for modded client
#230 [04:36] <Sean__> I have removed all mods, thougt that it could be the problem.
#231 [04:36] <Lutzee> okay
#232 [04:36] <Lutzee> then try
#233 [04:36] <Lutzee> ?? win/reinst
#234 [04:36] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#235 [04:36] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#236 [04:40] <Sean__> So i need to delete everything bin, config, coremods, lib, reosurces, stats,.......
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#241 [04:46] <Rizz431> Is there a easy way to download WE for signleplayer
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#261 [05:02] <Sean__> Thank You Lutzee - it worked :-)
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#294 [06:50] <Guest87229> I tried to install a mod for the game, but i couldt get it to work, and now then i try and open minecraft it crashes... i tried to delete the game and download it again, but the same error comes up. It wont run the game becasue of some java problem
#295 [06:50] <Guest87229> what do i do?
#296 [06:51] <cestislife> ?? mods
#297 [06:51] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#298 [06:51] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#299 [06:51] <Guest87229> i know... but now i cant even run the game
#300 [06:52] <Guest87229> can you help me with that?
#301 [06:52] <cestislife> ?? forceupdate
#302 [06:52] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#303 [06:52] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#305 [06:53] <Guest87229> but i cant even start up minecraft
#306 [06:54] <Guest87229> it just says: cant create a java machine
#307 [06:56] <Guest87229> how do i downloade the non stand alone version of the game?
#308 [07:01] <Guest87229> how do i get the non stand-alone version of the game where it installs it?
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#330 [08:15] <clovisd> anyone specialized in PermissionsEx here? I'm having issues setting up ModifyWorld Perms
#331 [08:16] <benhunter09> ?? Mods
#332 [08:16] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#333 [08:16] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#334 [08:16] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#338 [08:22] <benhunter09> yay! I helped
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#347 [09:06] <Wolverine> i accidentally purchased the game twice last night and i cant redeem either one cause it tells me i can only have 1
#348 [09:07] <cestislife> ?? refund
#349 [09:07] <VoxelHead> refund: This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
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#354 [09:08] <Wolverine> i sent an email explaining the situation no response
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#356 [09:10] <Wolverine> i tried to redeem one of the games again and still says i already own minecraft and i can only own 1 per account
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#361 [09:14] <roazer> how can my friends connect to my server?
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#363 [09:18] <roazer> anyone?
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#367 [09:37] <Tommi> HALLO SPRICHT JEMAND DEUTSCHß
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#369 [09:39] <Tommi> NEED SOME HELP BY TROUBLE AFTER TRIING RTO INSTALL MODS - NOW SCREEN IST FREEZINGby login - shows updating but does not finish
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#376 [09:50] <K3V1N8700> HAY CNA I GET SOME HELp?
#377 [09:50] <hot_lettice> im having serious lag issues while playing minecraft offline, my computer is top of the range with 12gb of memory running windows 8 can anyone help please as all the online tutorials dont seem to help or just add 1 or 2 extra fps
#378 [09:50] <K3V1N8700> sorry fo caps: can o get some help
#379 [09:52] <hot_lettice> ive tried everything, its not because of mods because im running vanilla minecraft but the same issues also occur in tekkit and FtB
#380 [09:54] <hot_lettice> ive set my desktop setting to max performance, changed the virtual memory to 6gb with a max of 12gb, but my system has 12gb of hard memory aswell, my processor is an AMD E2 1800 with 1gb dedicated RAdeon graphics, I can play games like Far Cry 3 and Skyrim with no lag whatsoever, is it a problem with windows 8???
#381 [09:55] <hot_lettice> hello???
#382 [09:55] <Necrodoom> ?? mods
#383 [09:55] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#384 [09:55] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#385 [09:56] <hot_lettice> its vanilla minecraft non- modded
#386 [09:57] <hot_lettice> can anyone help please?
#387 [09:57] <hot_lettice> i shouldnt have bought the game if i knew it would lag like this
#388 [09:57] <hot_lettice> can i get a refund, lol.
#389 [10:00] <hot_lettice> for a minecraft help room this is really helpful as customers should be valued this isnt exactly the way to help your fans is it?
#390 [10:01] <Morrolan> This is not official support.
#391 [10:01] <hot_lettice> still minecrafthelp should consist of that
#392 [10:01] <Morrolan> If you can not wait patiently for half an hour, you're at the wrong address, here.
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#394 [10:01] <hot_lettice> its not called minecrafthelpignoreeverything is it
#395 [10:01] <hot_lettice> so how do i contact mojang for a refund then
#396 [10:02] <Morrolan> It's not called dedicatedfanshelp247 either. :)
#397 [10:02] <hot_lettice> lol
#398 [10:02] <hot_lettice> im not exactly a fan right now, loi
#399 [10:02] <Morrolan> Did you check where the bottleneck is, anyway? Taks manager for CPU usage, a tool like MSI afterburner / GPU-Z for GPU usage?
#400 [10:03] <Morrolan> s/Taks/Task
#401 [10:03] <Morrolan> Might help to narrow it down.
#402 [10:03] <hot_lettice> yup minecraft was using 27% right at the top of the list everything else doesnt use more than 1% ata a time
#403 [10:03] <Morrolan> How many cores does your CPU have?
#404 [10:03] <hot_lettice> i have no bg apps running either
#405 [10:03] <hot_lettice> 2
#406 [10:04] <Morrolan> Okay, then that's half a core, shouldn't be an issue here. Grab GPU-Z and check Snesors -> GPU usage.
#407 [10:04] <hot_lettice> like i said i can play farcry 3 on max settings at 65 fps
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#409 [10:04] <hot_lettice> minecarfts is more MEM usage than GPU usage so it shouldnt be a problem with 12gb of hard memory and 12gb of virtual
#410 [10:05] <Morrolan> Minecraft is very GPU-intensive.
#411 [10:05] <Ellemenno_P> i might have missed something, i just lost connection
#412 [10:05] <Ellemenno_P> how do you allocate more memory to the game?
#413 [10:06] <hot_lettice> go to task manager then right click minecraft
#414 [10:06] <Morrolan> I believe there's a nice article on the Wiki somewhere.
#415 [10:06] <hot_lettice> all the help ive found online so far has increased my fps from 3 to 5 but theres nothing else i can do that hasnt been done (supposedly)
#416 [10:07] <Morrolan> Ellemenno_P - Looks like a good guide: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1395030-allocate-more-memory-for-minecraft/
#417 [10:07] <Morrolan> hot_lettice - Check your GPU usage, update LWJGL, update video drivers, give the 'Optifine' mod a try.
#418 [10:07] <Morrolan> That's the things I can think of without further info.
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#420 [10:07] <hot_lettice> optifine makes it worse
#421 [10:08] <Ellemenno_P> are you sure optifine makes it worse?
#422 [10:08] <Ellemenno_P> i've always had good experiences
#423 [10:09] <Morrolan> Toggling Advanced OpenGL is worth a shot, too. Switches some load from GPU to CPU (respectively vice versa)
#424 [10:09] <hot_lettice> optifine drops to 1fps so i deleted my .minecraft folder and force updated minecraft on next run
#425 [10:11] <hot_lettice> my gpu usage is at 33% when running minecraft but it goes to 67% when running far cry 3 which is a very heavy loaded game for GPU usage
#426 [10:12] <Morrolan> Might be your GPU's driver not being happy with OpenGL. Tried to update / downgrade that one already?
#427 [10:13] <Morrolan> Also, if you press 'F3' ingame, a deug screen should show. There should be a cake graph somewhere, which shows what is taking the most time to process.
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#430 [10:14] <hot_lettice> ive set all of minecraft settings to on and off trying it both ways seems it runs faster with evrything off but not by much
#431 [10:14] <db1> hello, We recently purchased two mincraft cards for our daughter
#432 [10:14] <Morrolan> ??+ moreram|A forum post which explains how to allocate more RAM to Minecraft can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1395030-allocate-more-memory-for-minecraft/
#433 [10:14] <Morrolan> ?? moreram
#434 [10:14] <VoxelHead> moreram: A forum post which explains how to allocate more RAM to Minecraft can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1395030-allocate-more-memory-for-minecraft/
#435 [10:14] <Morrolan> Splendid. No more googling for that.
#436 [10:15] <Morrolan> db1 - Yea? :)
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#438 [10:15] <db1> issue is , one of my kids accounts doesnt show up when she logs in and only the other account's worlds show up
#439 [10:15] <db1> So, if account 1 logs in , her worlds aren't showing up.. account 2's worlds only show up
#440 [10:16] <Morrolan> Worlds are not per-Minecraft account, but per-Windows user.
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#442 [10:16] <Morrolan> If they both use the same computer, it'd be best to create a Windows / Mac account for each of them, then their worlds will be separated.
#443 [10:17] <Morrolan> If they are sometimes playing on one computer, and sometimes on a different computer, then the worlds will not get synced automatically, one would have to do that by hand.
#444 [10:17] <db1> Ok, so then what happened the other accounts worlds? We can't find them anywhere
#445 [10:17] <db1> the other accounts worlds just show up on both Pc's
#446 [10:18] <Morrolan> Err, that... isn't normal. Did you check whether it's actually the same worlds showing up on both computers, or if those worlds just have the same name?
#447 [10:18] <hot_lettice> how the hell do i update LWJGL ive just had a look and i aint a programmer so its way confusing
#448 [10:19] <Morrolan> ??> hot_lettice java/lwjgl
#449 [10:19] <VoxelHead> hot_lettice: (java/lwjgl) See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL for a guide on manually updating to a new version of LWJGL.
#450 [10:19] <db1> hold, just checking with kids
#451 [10:19] <Morrolan> db1 - Sure. :)
#452 [10:19] <db1> hold, just checking with kids
#453 [10:19] <hot_lettice> thnx
#454 [10:19] <Morrolan> I'll be gone for a while (Coiffeur ;)), stick around, and someone will help further.
#455 [10:20] <Morrolan> Worst case, join again when those located in the US are back.
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#457 [10:20] <db1> acct user 2 , created different worlds on different pc's.. acct 1 is pissed b/c she can't find her worlds....
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#460 [10:20] <db1> So, solution is to create a separate windows acct
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#462 [10:21] <Peter> hi
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#464 [10:21] <K3V1N8700> hay can i get some help?
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#466 [10:21] <Guest58194> yes please
#467 [10:22] <db1> Peter are you reading morrolan's help chat with mysefl
#468 [10:22] <Guest58194> i just changed to windows 8 and minecraft doesnt seem to want to work
#469 [10:23] <Guest58194> yes
#470 [10:23] <K3V1N8700> How do i ban creatian items form being place by a specific player`even if they are oped?
#471 [10:23] <K3V1N8700> Certain*
#472 [10:24] <ShadowLugia> I I can't login to minecraft with my Mojang account. Why?
#473 [10:24] <hot_lettice> LWJGL updated made no difference whatsoever neither did switching on opengl
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#475 [10:25] <db1> hello, is anyone here to help?
#476 [10:25] <blackclover> I need help too.
#477 [10:25] <Guest58194> same here
#478 [10:25] <K3V1N8700> "bukkit
#479 [10:25] <db1> great service
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#482 [10:26] <Guest58194> is anyone running minecraft on Windows 8?
#483 [10:26] <hot_lettice> i am
#484 [10:26] <db1> no, not me
#485 [10:26] <Guest58194> did you get any problems when u first open minecraft
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#487 [10:26] <Guest58194> @hot_lettice
#488 [10:26] <hot_lettice> yer u have to right click it and select run as admin for some strange reason
#489 [10:27] <Guest58194> ah cool i will try that thanks
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#491 [10:27] <db1> is there any support here?
#492 [10:27] <blackclover> I bought minecraft and reached sms with the validation code, but my Chrome closed...now, what can i do?
#493 [10:28] <blackclover> Can somebody help me?
#494 [10:28] <db1> ha
#495 [10:28] <Guest58194> @hot_lettice, it didnt work but thanks any ways
#496 [10:28] <Guest58194> i keep getting this Vec3 Pool Size: ~~ERROR~~ NullPointerException: null
#497 [10:29] <[away]hunter09> What with?
#498 [10:29] <hot_lettice> ooh now thats different
#499 [10:29] <Guest58194> i remeber i had to change this JVM Flags: 2 total; -Xms512m -Xmx1024m
#500 [10:29] <hot_lettice> i just have massive lag issues and it seems its down to windows 8
#501 [10:29] <Guest58194> any1 remember how this is done
#502 [10:29] <hot_lettice> i didnt have this problem before the free update from 7
#503 [10:30] <Guest58194> i had vista be4 8 and i had to change JVM Flags: 2 total; -Xms512m -Xmx1024m
#504 [10:30] <hot_lettice> but i cant change it cause of insurance reasons
#505 [10:30] <Guest58194> 8(
#506 [10:30] <hot_lettice> 8 does suck
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#508 [10:30] <Guest58194> its nicer in interface though
#509 [10:30] <hot_lettice> yup
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#511 [10:31] <db1> hello, i have two users and they are having issues due to one user per PC which we didn't know about. Can I remove hardware on one PC , then re download minecraft to clear memory and just have both kids use one pc for minecraft
#512 [10:32] <hot_lettice> if you have them have seperate user accounts to log into the pc then yes
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#514 [10:32] <hot_lettice> as minecraft modifies the appdate folder for each user
#515 [10:32] <db1> I am just going to have the log into separate PC's for minecraft to keep it simple
#516 [10:33] <hot_lettice> making seperate user accs on windows is easy
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#518 [10:33] <db1> ok, how do I do that?
#519 [10:33] <hot_lettice> go to your control panel and click users
#520 [10:33] <hot_lettice> then click modify another user on this computer then click add user
#521 [10:34] <hot_lettice> microsoft tech support here i come lol
#522 [10:34] <db1> ok, I see that but can we also just keep them on separate Pc's as well, correct?
#523 [10:35] <hot_lettice> if their on the same home network ie connected to the same router
#524 [10:35] <hot_lettice> you have to create a homegroup from one pc then log into it from the other
#525 [10:35] <hot_lettice> thats also in the control panel
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#527 [10:36] <bob> hello
#528 [10:36] <db1> thanks
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#530 [10:36] <blackclover> can somebody help me?
#531 [10:36] <blackclover> ....
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#533 [10:37] <Guest58194> with what
#534 [10:37] <blackclover> I have bought monecraft, and recieve a sms with the validation code... but my chrome closed and now...i can't put the validation code to continue
#535 [10:38] <hot_lettice> with what im seeing alot of people online have serious problems with windows 8, i think it might be the java environment as its different from the windows 7 version, when will mojang provide support for this
#536 [10:38] <Guest58194> i think i found a way to fix the windows 8 problem, the virtual memory needs to be higher
#537 [10:38] <hot_lettice> ive done that already and it made no difference whatsoever
#538 [10:39] <Guest58194> i am trying to fix it as we speak, i cant seem to find the file in which JVM Flags: 2 total; -Xms512m -Xmx1024m is
#539 [10:39] <Guest58194> ah
#540 [10:39] <hot_lettice> although my computer runs a bit faster lol.
#541 [10:39] <Guest58194> well JVM Flags: 2 total; -Xms512m -Xmx1024m
#542 [10:39] <Guest58194> well as the report shows mine is running at -Xms512m -Xmx1024m
#543 [10:39] <Guest58194> what is ur one running at
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#545 [10:40] <blackclover> but now what can i do? i have a sms: Your Skrill verification code is ------ . But i don't have the page to put that on... help me.
#546 [10:40] <Guest58194> how much higher did u get ita at
#547 [10:40] <blackclover> but now what can i do? i have a sms: Your Skrill verification code is ------ . But i don't have the page to put that on... help me.
#548 [10:40] <hot_lettice> ive got it at -xms6054m -xms12108m
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#550 [10:40] <hot_lettice> so alot higher
#551 [10:40] <Guest58194> go to minecraft blackclover and log in when u get a verification message just put ur sms code in
#552 [10:40] <Guest58194> or google it
#553 [10:41] <blackclover> I have to bought again?...
#554 [10:41] <Guest58194> @hot_lettice yep i agree that quite high
#555 [10:41] <hot_lettice> lol
#556 [10:41] <Guest58194> no u dont need to buy it again just make an accout
#557 [10:41] <Guest58194> on minecraft
#558 [10:41] <hot_lettice> my pcs fast enough tho its got 12gb of hard memory
#559 [10:41] <Guest58194> i use to run this on vista at 2m
#560 [10:41] <hot_lettice> so an extra 12gb of virtual doesnt make much difference in loading times etc...
#561 [10:41] <Guest58194> so its not the hardware
#562 [10:42] <hot_lettice> yup
#563 [10:42] <hot_lettice> i agree
#564 [10:42] <hot_lettice> its win8
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#566 [10:42] <Guest58194> how do we let mojang know then
#567 [10:42] <Guest58194> to get an update
#568 [10:42] <hot_lettice> i dunno thats what i want to do myself
#569 [10:42] <hot_lettice> they only support 7 at the min
#570 [10:42] <Guest58194> JEEEEEEEB U LISTENING MAN UPDATE
#571 [10:42] <hot_lettice> and not even properly
#572 [10:43] <Guest58194> that one way
#573 [10:43] <Guest58194> 8)
#574 [10:43] <hot_lettice> they support macs more than windows at the minute for some strange reason
#575 [10:43] <hot_lettice> i watched the minecraft interview on XBL and they were well excited about the Mac version
#576 [10:44] <Guest58194> maybe they are there sponsors
#577 [10:44] <hot_lettice> as the xbox version isnt even ran by them its just endorsed by mojang
#578 [10:44] <hot_lettice> haha
#579 [10:45] <Guest58194> blackclover did it work
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#581 [10:45] <Guest58194> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Rendering screen A full error report has been saved to C:\Users\pstep_000\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2013-02-16_17.27.28-client.txt - Please include a copy of that file (Not this screen!) if you report this crash to anyone; without it, they will not be able to help fix the cras
#582 [10:46] <hot_lettice> youd think with most of the world converting to windows 8 as support for 7 is dying and vista is dead, that Mojang would have already pre-released updates for Win8 users, us windows owners were the first people to play Minecrafty
#583 [10:46] <Guest58194> well not many are on win 8 yet
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#585 [10:46] <Guest58194> maybe they are working on it
#586 [10:46] <jer> Icannot get connected i just purchased full version
#587 [10:46] <Guest58194> of what jer
#588 [10:46] <PerfectDeciet> I cant get into minecrft
#589 [10:47] <hot_lettice> windows 8 sold more copies than vista so far
#590 [10:47] <Guest58194> whats ur OS guys
#591 [10:47] <PerfectDeciet> its saying "failed to connect"
#592 [10:47] <Guest58194> try updating it perfectdeciet and jer
#593 [10:47] <Guest58194> force update
#594 [10:47] <hot_lettice> and with all the people who bought pc's from pc world/currys theyre getting win8 for free
#595 [10:47] <PerfectDeciet> It wont lemme update
#596 [10:48] <Guest58194> restart pc you might just have your directories mangled up
#597 [10:48] <hot_lettice> minecraft runs faster on my server pc which is just a shitty single core 1gb no GPU and 2gb of memory but its running XP
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#599 [10:48] <Guest58194> xp is like the best OS to have
#600 [10:48] <hot_lettice> this one im trying to run it on is 3 weeks old
#601 [10:48] <hot_lettice> the server is 6 years old
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#603 [10:49] <hot_lettice> i wouldnt even try running Skyrim on that thing itd blow up
#604 [10:49] <hot_lettice> but this one its beautiful
#605 [10:49] <Guest58194> nice
#606 [10:49] <hot_lettice> so thats why im thinking its win8
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#609 [10:49] <hot_lettice> well KNOW its win8
#610 [10:50] <Guest58194> did u get win8 update or normal
#611 [10:50] <hot_lettice> Mojang need to email all their customers with notification for windows 8 update and support otherwise their gonna start losing players
#612 [10:50] <hot_lettice> update
#613 [10:50] <Guest58194> ah
#614 [10:51] <hot_lettice> makes no difference as they wiped the HDD
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#616 [10:51] <hot_lettice> its jus classed as an update cos the PC is just over 3 weeks old
#617 [10:51] <Guest58194> so u didnt keep computer settings when chaning OS?
#618 [10:51] <hot_lettice> no i asked not to
#619 [10:51] <hot_lettice> they asked me if i did and i said no lets satart frsh lol
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#621 [10:51] <Guest58194> maybe if we had cos i did full partition
#622 [10:52] <Guest58194> it would have kept the settings
#623 [10:52] <PerfectDeciet> I think its letting me update now
#624 [10:52] <Guest58194> nice
#625 [10:52] <Guest58194> hope it works perfect
#626 [10:52] <hot_lettice> sometimes updates can fail due to your net speed
#627 [10:52] <hot_lettice> or if windows update is running
#628 [10:52] <Guest58194> i would guess mostly because of that
#629 [10:52] <PerfectDeciet> and its not my pc either cause on skype everyone was havingthe same problem
#630 [10:53] <hot_lettice> i had minecraft CTD on me due to winupdate updating the net framework which was gay
#631 [10:53] <hot_lettice> thats why i have automatic diabled now
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#633 [10:54] <Guest58194> so how do we contact them with this problem
#634 [10:54] <hot_lettice> theyre hiding behind Notches hat so we cant
#635 [10:54] <cwilson> my bf is trying to buy the game and its coming up that we need to verify email when we already have. and its linking our accounts as well and do not know why
#636 [10:54] <hot_lettice> theyre bumming apple at the minute so us windows users have to wait
#637 [10:55] <hot_lettice> but the updates theyve been releasing have been nice but theyre all for win7 users
#638 [10:55] <Guest58194> cwilson could you please say that again
#639 [10:55] <Guest58194> i didnt understand
#640 [10:55] <Guest58194> hot_lettice try this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#642 [10:55] <Guest58194> lettice ur ther
#643 [10:55] <Guest58194> u there*
#644 [10:56] <cwilson> my bf is trying to buy the game but it continues to come up verify email when we already have.
#645 [10:56] <Guest58194> have you tried logging in
#646 [10:56] <Guest58194> ?
#647 [10:57] <cwilson> what, see if it buys for him?
#648 [10:57] <Guest58194> have you tried to log in maybe the server is just confusing you with someone else
#649 [10:58] <Guest58194> cwilson< u have the email and password and you bought the game but it keeps telling you it needs to verify your email> am i correct
#650 [10:58] <cwilson> for me its saying download now
#651 [10:59] <Guest58194> okay download the game and install it, then type in ur username and password
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#654 [10:59] <Guest58194> maybe you have two tabs open at the same time and it just got confused
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#658 [11:00] <cwilson> idk. is there any way to delete a mojang account and possibly remake his?
#659 [11:00] <Guest58194> dono never tried it before, google it
#660 [11:00] <Guest58194> dono never tried it before, google it
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#665 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> Theee is no way to delete a mojang account once created
#666 [11:02] <Zim> Can anyone lend a hand? I am having a problem with Minecraft
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#668 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> Zim - care to elaborate?
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#670 [11:03] <Zim> Every half hour or so, the program will crash, and it will leave a text document for me
#671 [11:03] <Zim> Let me bring it back up
#672 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> ?? Pastebin
#673 [11:04] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#674 [11:05] <Zim> http://pastebin.com/UqcLiGFn
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#677 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Pretty sure it's a mod problem
#678 [11:08] <Zim> Alright, so I can force update and it should be ok?
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#680 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully.
#681 [11:08] <Zim> Alright, thank you for the help :) It is much appreciated
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#691 [11:26] <BloodSkin> which channel would it be appropriate to as for someone to test the lag on my server in?
#692 [11:26] <BloodSkin> ask*
#693 [11:27] <BloodSkin> actually nevermind i gotta figure out why my client isnt working anymore.
#694 [11:27] * BloodSkin looks for logs
#694 [11:32] <BloodSkin> i wonder if some how i broke java
#695 [11:33] <BloodSkin> i think so
#696 [11:33] <BloodSkin> huge mem leak
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#711 [12:01] <Malihini> Hello, i am having trouble getting Minecraft to run on my Mac. I download it form the website create an account but when i try to log in it says its not downloaded. Any ideas?
#712 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> What does it say to the left of Not Downloaded?
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#714 [12:02] <Malihini> Log\in failed
#715 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft?
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#717 [12:02] <Malihini> yes, i bought the pre-paid card
#718 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Did you create a minecraft profile after purchasing a minecraft account?
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#720 [12:03] <Malihini> yes, i made an account on mojang and minecraft
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#722 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> So when you login to mojang.com, you see Minecraft listed under your "My Games" list, and a profile name is attached to it?
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#724 [12:04] <Malihini> I believe so. let me double check real quick
#725 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> It should look something like this: http://i.imgur.com/afqZugV.png
#726 [12:05] <Malihini> yes.
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#728 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Alright. When you're logging into the launcher that you downloaded from the website, are you using the email address and password from your mojang account?>
#729 [12:06] <loganwilliams01> i cannot open minecraft from my desktop or download file
#730 [12:06] <Malihini> I have tried with that and with the username i was asked to make for minecraft
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#732 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Malihini - With a mojang account, you need to use your email address and password to log in. Generally, with login failed errors, either of these two are frequently inputted incorrectly.
#733 [12:07] <miqtobar56> Is it safe to download legend gear mod
#734 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Try changing your password through the website and try again
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#736 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> miqtobar56 - We do not support mods here, as they're third-party mods, not developed officially by Mojang.
#737 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> You download and install mods at your own risk
#738 [12:08] <miqtobar56> Do you know if people have had trouble with legend gear mod?
#739 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> I have not had any experience with tha tmod.
#740 [12:08] <Necrodoom> miqtobar56: there are thousands of mods
#741 [12:09] <miqtobar56> Is there any way to know if legend gear mod is safe to download? I have not seen any information on any of the forums about legend gear.
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#743 [12:10] <Necrodoom> miqtobar56: go google it
#744 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> miqtobar56 - See: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1668255-147-forge-sspsmp-legendgear-items-and-more-drawing-inspiration-from-zelda/
#745 [12:10] <Necrodoom> we arent a vendor for mod information, we cant know them all nor their combination of them
#746 [12:10] <Malihini> that worked. thank you very much Grey Vulpine! i really appreciate it :) hope you have a great day
#747 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> Malihini - Glad we could be of assistance.
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#749 [12:11] <miqtobar56> Thank you GreyVulpine.
#750 [12:11] <miqtobar56> Thank you GreyVulpine.
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#752 [12:11] <miqtobar56> Thank you GreyVulpine.
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#762 [12:25] <Lostmom> i had to restore windows to a version before I downloaded Minecraft for my son...i re-downloaded it now that I have fixed computer, but when it opens it only gives me a black box after
#763 [12:25] <Lostmom> .."logging in"
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#765 [12:26] <Lostmom> what is wrong and how do i fix?
#766 [12:26] <SJS> I am receiving the following eror on 1.4.7: Minecraft has crashed!
#767 [12:26] <Talven81> Lostmom: What version of windows? Have you installed Java? Have you updated your graphics drivers?
#768 [12:26] <SJS> Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Unexpected error
#769 [12:27] <SJS> Windows 8
#770 [12:27] <Lostmom> windows 7 -- his laptop is a year old (Dell)
#771 [12:27] <SJS> Minecraft used to run, so I assume Java is installed
#772 [12:27] <Lostmom> yes, it worked fine prior to his computer becoming competely fubared
#773 [12:28] <SJS> Oops, that question was for Lostmon, sorry
#774 [12:28] <Talven81> SJS: That was for Lostmom. I don't think I can help much with Win8 I have heard a lot of people having problems but don't know the workaround as I'm on Win7.
#775 [12:28] <Lostmom> i system restored it to a week prior to the Minecraft download (original download)
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#777 [12:29] <Talven81> So has minecraft run since the restore?
#778 [12:29] <Lostmom> as a side note, i have compltely updated virus scan as well and all windows updates
#779 [12:29] <Talven81> (Excuse me if I'm slow this morning, chugging coffee to get up to full speed.)
#780 [12:29] <SJS> Thanks Talven81, any suggestions where I should look next?
#781 [12:29] <Latte> everytime i open my minecraft it says it has a rendering screen issue and crashes
#782 [12:29] <Lostmom> no, it has not worked since the restore
#783 [12:30] <Latte> what restore
#784 [12:30] <Talven81> Lostmom: Have you installed Java since you did the restore?
#785 [12:30] <Lostmom> it downloads with no problem, even popped up with id/pass still saved...but won't run
#786 [12:30] <Lostmom> i didnt realize i had to install java...how do i do that?
#787 [12:30] <Talven81> One moment, getting URL.
#788 [12:30] <Latte> why wont minecraft run for me
#789 [12:31] <Talven81> Lostmom: http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp
#790 [12:31] <Latte> how do i fix the rendering screen error
#791 [12:31] <Lostmom> thanks! I'll try that now:)
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#793 [12:31] <Talven81> MineCraft is a Java based game and requried to run.
#794 [12:32] <Latte> yep
#795 [12:32] <Cindy> purchased minecraft and can't download
#796 [12:32] <Latte> what heppens when u click download
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#801 [12:34] <rubberduck3456> hello i need help.
#802 [12:34] <Lostmom> it is still installing...
#803 [12:34] <Lostmom> im assuming I will have to restart computer, right?
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#806 [12:35] <yooperkid> keeps freezing
#807 [12:35] <Cindy> It says account needed
#808 [12:35] <rubberduck3456> i am having trouble with the open to lan option on my mine craft
#809 [12:35] <astorrs> We can't place blocks or throw when right click on the mouse.
#810 [12:36] <Lostmom> talven81, r u still there?
#811 [12:36] <Talven81> Lostmom: Hmm maybe... you might be able to launch it without restarting. But if it doesn't work I would try a restart before troubleshooting futher.
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#814 [12:37] <Lostmom> it is still "installing", so if I could pick your brain on one other question, id be eternally grateful
#815 [12:37] <rubberduck3456> i need help!
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#817 [12:37] <Talven81> Sorry guys, helping one person, dealing with 8 browser windows, SWTOR, the JIRA and still swilling a pot of coffee to get up to speed.
#818 [12:38] <Cindy> Hello
#819 [12:38] <rubberduck3456> can i get a reply
#820 [12:38] <Necrodoom> rubberduck3456: wait, theres only one helper and 5 people needing help
#821 [12:38] <Talven81> rubberduck3456: There are about 5 people ahead of you, and I appear to be the main active help at the moment.
#822 [12:39] <rubberduck3456> how long?
#823 [12:39] <Talven81> Well since I'm a volunteer... when I get to you.
#824 [12:40] <Talven81> Lostmom: The install going fine?
#825 [12:40] <rubberduck3456> Sorry
#826 [12:40] <Lostmom> Talven...I will save my second question until I get it working again, because it involves WinRAR and mods (believe it or not, I used to do tech support....but that was17 years ago and now im completely technolgically challenged! LOL)\
#827 [12:40] <Lostmom> i tried to re-open, but it seems to be "laggin" a bit in the "loading stage"
#828 [12:40] <Talven81> Lostmom: For modded support please join #risucraft
#829 [12:41] <Talven81> Lostmom: Possible on first launch, it has to create your profile, etc. etc.... should only be for a moment though.
#830 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft does not do modded support
#831 [12:41] <Lostmom> still loading...for future reference, how do I join that? The same way I joined this one? (from the main website, helppage)
#832 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> In fact, they frown heavily on providing support for any mods right now
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#834 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> For mod support, check the forums for the appropriate mod.
#835 [12:42] <Talven81> GreyVulpine: Um... #risucraft topic - General Minecraft Modding Discussion and Help
#836 [12:42] <Lostmom> thank Goodness for the iPad as I have been working on this dang computer for hours! I should have just formatted and started over, sigh
#837 [12:43] <Lostmom> still "loading"..
#838 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Talven81 - Trust me when I say, #risucraft will not provide support for mods. Many times, they will be very aggressive.
#839 [12:43] <Talven81> GreyVulpine: That's where I've always been directed for modding support, and they have helped.
#840 [12:43] <Talven81> GreyVulpine: OK so what's the appropriate channel then?
#841 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> We've stopped directing support for mods to them, as per their own request.
#842 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> The appropriate channel, would be either google (to the appropriate mod's forum), or the mod's creator.
#843 [12:44] <Talven81> They REALLY need to change their topic then... and that means I'm dropping from the chan and providing support for people in there then.
#844 [12:45] <Lostmom> umm...gentlemen, i don't have a "specific" mod question, I have how the heck do you install ANY mod kind of question...please dont argue.
#845 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> Lostmom - It depends on the mod. Many mods have differing installation instructions.
#846 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> Some mods need a base mod to be installed on top of, some mods have dependancies that need to be addressed.
#847 [12:45] <Lostmom> Talven: it is still "loading" (the bar graph thing shows it is like 90% complete-ish)
#848 [12:46] <Talven81> Lostmom: Has it been stuck there for some time?
#849 [12:46] <Lostmom> a few minutes (at least the whole "Mod" discussion between you and Grey)...should I close and relaunch??
#850 [12:47] * acmfan is now known as acmfan|away
#851 [12:47] <Talven81> Lostmom: Wait... the Java install is stuck at 90% or MineCraft is stuck at 90%?
#852 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Lostmom - Have you tried a force update?
#853 [12:47] <Talven81> GreyVulpine: Hold on, need to make sure where she is in the process. She didn't have Java loaded.
#854 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#855 [12:47] <Lostmom> Minecraft - Java is done so i tried to relaunch without rebooting computer so I didn't lose this help from you:)
#856 [12:48] <Talven81> Try a relaunch it won't hurt.
#857 [12:48] <Lostmom> k, one sec
#858 [12:48] <Talven81> If it keeps getting stuck in the same spot will have to "force update" like Grey said.
#859 [12:48] <Talven81> At least it's downloading the files now.
#860 [12:49] <Lostmom> as a side note - when I launch it, it gives me a McAfee "publisher can not be verified, do you still want to open" window....
#861 [12:50] <Talven81> If possible click any box that says something like "always ignore".
#862 [12:50] <Lostmom> and apparently now it won
#863 [12:50] <Lostmom> it just took FOREVER to open
#864 [12:51] <Talven81> It's your antivirus.
#865 [12:51] <Lostmom> the screen says "updating minecraft - done loading - and bar is stuck around 95% again
#866 [12:51] <Lostmom> what do I do Tal?
#867 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> ?? forceupdate
#868 [12:52] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
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#870 [12:52] <Talven81> Did you get another McAfee warning this time you launched?
#871 [12:52] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#872 [12:52] * [away]hunter09 is now known as benhunter09
#873 [12:52] <Lostmom> yes, and it was doing it before I even was getting the plain black screen
#874 [12:53] <Lostmom> what is a "force update"?
#875 [12:53] <Talven81> Yeah McAfee is a pain. It likes to throw warnings on most Java programs. You will have to instruct McAfee to ignore MineCraft.
#876 [12:53] <Lostmom> how do I do that Tal?
#877 [12:53] <Talven81> It's halting MC from progressing, and MC is having a problem recovering after you allow it.
#878 [12:54] <Talven81> I hate McAfee.
#879 [12:54] <Lostmom> what is better?
#880 [12:54] <tammie> please tell me someone can help me with getting this game on my computer for my son :(
#881 [12:54] <Lostmom> like I said, I lost my tech-savvy over a decade ago
#882 [12:54] <Calinou> proper_AV = "none",
#883 [12:54] <nipper> tammie what the matter?
#884 [12:54] <Talven81> Personally, I just use Microsoft Security Essentials.
#885 [12:54] <Talven81> It's free and less annoying.
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#887 [12:55] <Lostmom> cool beans!
#888 [12:55] <Talven81> Let me see if I can find some instructions on the web for you for allowing .jar to run through McAfee in the meantime.
#889 [12:55] <tammie> we bought the card thing for the game and tried to do load it. it shows the icon on the desk top but does nothing when we click it
#890 [12:55] <Talven81> I haven't touched it since early 2000s.
#891 [12:56] <nipper> tammie PM
#892 [12:56] <Lostmom> Tal, should I do the "force update thing" while u look?
#893 [12:56] <tammie> pm?
#894 [12:56] <nipper> private message.
#895 [12:56] <rubberduck3456> Just checking, am I moving up on the que?
#896 [12:57] * tyteen4a03 pops
#896 [12:57] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, there is no queue
#897 [12:57] <Talven81> Lostmom: Try this, looks like good instructions for McAfee... http://www.ehow.com/how_6001901_exclude-programs-mcafee-security-center.html
#898 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Before you go and mess with security settings, try a force update
#899 [12:57] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, what is your problem again?
#900 [12:58] <rubberduck3456> my open to lan always times out
#901 [12:58] <Calinou> Talven81: MSE is bad, use avast or no AV instead
#902 [12:58] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, how is your network set up?
#903 [12:59] <Calinou> MSE is microsoft's new WGA
#904 [12:59] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, need source
#905 [12:59] <rubberduck3456> we are both hardwired
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#907 [12:59] <Calinou> tyteen4a03: WGA is cancer
#908 [12:59] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, to a router?
#909 [12:59] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, no, the statement that MSE is WGA
#910 [12:59] <rubberduck3456> no to the internet
#911 [12:59] <Calinou> wikipedia
#912 [12:59] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, link
#913 [12:59] <Calinou> rubberduck3456: lan != internet
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#915 [12:59] <rubberduck3456> ???
#916 [12:59] <Calinou> if I were you I'd start a dedicated server, not a "listen" one
#917 [12:59] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, do you know how to open your command prompt?
#918 [13:00] <Lostmom> Tal and Grey ---- am I doing the "Force update"???
#919 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, remember, don't confuse people
#920 [13:00] <Calinou> not only this is a requirement to make an _internet_ server, this is also better for LAN
#921 [13:00] <Talven81> Lostmom: Go for it, can't hurt.
#922 [13:00] <rubberduck3456> yes, why?
#923 [13:00] <Gabe> i need help
#924 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> ??> Gabe ask
#925 [13:00] <VoxelHead> Gabe: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#926 [13:00] <VoxelHead> Gabe: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#927 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> Lostmom, a recap on how to:
#928 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> ??> Lostmom forceupdate
#929 [13:00] <VoxelHead> Lostmom: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#930 [13:00] <VoxelHead> Lostmom: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#931 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, enter this command into your command prompt: "ipconfig"
#932 [13:00] <rubberduck3456> you told me it was my firewall norton
#933 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, were you here before?
#934 [13:01] <rubberduck3456> yes
#935 [13:01] <rubberduck3456> you helped me
#936 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, oh
#937 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, yes, it is your norton
#938 [13:01] <rubberduck3456> what should i do?
#939 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, you'll want to convince the other ops around regarding your statement
#940 [13:01] <Gabe> so im trying to log in ive tryed everything and nothing will work ive changed the password my mom tryed to help i just dont know what to do
#941 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, uninstall it
#942 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, is your mom here?
#943 [13:01] <rubberduck3456> i cant do that is there anything eles i can do?
#944 [13:01] <Lostmom> i did the force update and at least it is doing something now....
#945 [13:02] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, unfortunately not really
#946 [13:02] <rubberduck3456> you told me that i can disable it
#947 [13:02] <Gabe> well she is leaving oh and rubberduck i dont even hav the icon on the thing sooo
#948 [13:02] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, I told you you can try disabling it
#949 [13:02] <rubberduck3456> ok, how
#950 [13:02] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, I did not guarantee it will work afterwards
#951 [13:02] <Gabe> i dont know how to
#952 [13:03] <tyteen4a03> ??> Gabe irc/multitasking
#953 [13:03] <VoxelHead> Gabe: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#954 [13:03] <Talven81> Lostmom: If it patches all the way you should be fine for single player. However if you experience problems connecting to multiplayer servers or LAN sharing you may still need to allow MC through the McAfee "firewall".
#955 [13:03] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, in most cases I would just get rid of mcafee
#956 [13:03] <Lostmom> the force update worked!!!!!
#957 [13:03] <Talven81> tyteen4a03: You're about 15 min behind the conversation. :)
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#959 [13:03] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, where did you log in to? are you using your Mojang account login credentials
#960 [13:04] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, correct
#961 [13:04] <rubberduck3456> how do i dusable norton?
#962 [13:04] <Talven81> tyteen4a03: Already recommended that.
#963 [13:04] <Lostmom> my son says he only plays single player (I only installed it less than a month ago originally, he had just been playing "pocket edition" on my ipAD)
#964 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Lostmom - Glad to hear it worked
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#966 [13:04] <Talven81> Lostmom: If you can get it to launch then you're fine. Just keep in mind what I said about multiplayer if you ever attempt it.
#967 [13:05] <Lostmom> I will, I am going to address the McAffee issue.
#968 [13:05] <Talven81> Lostmom: Careful you may need a hazmat suit. (joke)
#969 [13:05] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, I'm not sure how Norton works, but try right-clicking the Norton icon in the system tray and select "Disable Antivirus Autp-Protect."
#970 [13:05] <Gabe> i boght the game then i clicked DOWNLOAD on the homepage then clicked minecraft for pc it broght up something andi typed in the user and pass. and it said login failed
#971 [13:05] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, also do this to the firewall
#972 [13:05] <Lostmom> The IT guy at the firm put VPN on my personal laptop this week and he added some malware program saying McAfee sucked---
#973 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, did you use your Mojang Account?
#974 [13:06] <Gabe> i think
#975 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> Lostmom, McAfee does suck
#976 [13:06] <Talven81> McAfee does suck.
#977 [13:06] <Lostmom> thank you guys again SOOOOO much.
#978 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, it should be your email address and your password
#979 [13:07] <Gabe> so if i log in to yahoo right now it would be my email edress and the password to my yahoo
#980 [13:07] <Lostmom> Oh dear Lord, now I have started another fight. Everyone be NICE to Talven81, he just spent an exhaustive amount of time helping me (all without his morning coffee, lol) and now my 9 year old is happy, which makes the mama happy!
#981 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> Lostmom, I don't sense one
#982 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Lostmom - No worries, glad we could make your day.
#983 [13:08] <Talven81> No fight.
#984 [13:08] <Lostmom> Thanks again Talven (and for your added assistance Grey)---I will go now so you can help the others:)
#985 [13:08] <Lostmom> have a fantabular weekend! THANK YOU!!
#986 [13:08] <Gabe> tyteen please read whhat i posted
#987 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, I did
#988 [13:08] <Talven81> At the worst technical difference of opinion headbutting on which antivirus is best.
#989 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, Avast, end of debate actually
#990 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Eset. Now the end of debate
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#992 [13:09] * GreyVulpine coughs.
#992 [13:09] <Gabe> i spent the money and i want to acctuly play the game tyteen
#993 [13:09] <Talven81> tyteen4a03: LOL not going to get into it in here, this is MC support not AV suppport.
#994 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, can you log into minecraft.net?
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#996 [13:10] <Gabe> no it wont let me
#997 [13:10] <Talven81> (Although I do LIKE Avast)
#998 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, who registered the account for you?
#999 [13:10] <Gabe> my mom
#1000 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, this also acts as a channel where tech nerds get together and argue/discuss
#1001 [13:10] <Gabe> at least shes the one who baoght it
#1002 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, you will have to ask her the login credentials
#1003 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, if ESET doesn't interfere with Minecraft in weird ways I would have liked it
#1004 [13:11] <Gabe> tyteen is there anyway we can talk alone
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#1006 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> *didn't
#1007 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, why would you need to?
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#1009 [13:11] <Gabe> cause i need to tell u my user
#1010 [13:11] <Gabe> name
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#1012 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, why would you need to?
#1013 [13:12] <Gabe> so i can tell u my username
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#1018 [13:13] <Gabe> im sorry tyteen im back
#1019 [13:13] <tammie_> Ok im back and have the crome downloaded
#1020 [13:14] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, a few things: 1. Your username is public, 2. We are not Mojang, even if you gave me your username we wouldn't be able to look up your email or do magic, and 3. We cannot verify that you are indeed the account owner
#1021 [13:14] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, the best thing you can do is to wait until your mom gets back, then ask her your login credentials
#1022 [13:14] <Gabe> MY MOM BOUGHT THE GAME OK
#1023 [13:14] <Gabe> I REALLY WANT TO PLAY
#1024 [13:15] <Gabe> JUT PLZ HELP ME
#1025 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, unfortunately we cannot
#1026 [13:15] <Gabe> WHY NOT UR HELP SUPPORT
#1027 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, we are not Mojang, we don't deal with account issues
#1028 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, besides, patience is a virtue
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#1031 [13:16] <Gabe> I KNOW ITS JUST IVE BENN WANTING TO PLAY FOR YEARS NOW AND IM DEFENTLY OUT OF PATIECE
#1032 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> ??> Gabe dont/shout
#1033 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> ??> Gabe don't/shout
#1034 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> fff
#1035 [13:17] <Gabe> im sorry
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#1037 [13:17] * tyteen4a03 needs to remember the changes in factoids
#1037 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, anyways, we really can't do anything about account issues, we are not Mojang
#1038 [13:18] <Gabe> i know its just you the help support
#1039 [13:18] <Gabe> my mom will be back in at least 2 hours
#1040 [13:18] <Talven81> Gabe: Volunteer support, anyone can volunteer. I recommend asking your mom what e-mail she registered with.
#1041 [13:19] <Talven81> ...and password. She may have set it.
#1042 [13:19] <Gabe> can i tell u guys cause i know
#1043 [13:19] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, no
#1044 [13:19] <Gabe> why
#1045 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, never, and I mean never, share your password with anybody, ever
#1046 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, and even if we have your email, we wouldn't be able to do anything
#1047 [13:20] <Talven81> Gabe: Because it's a security issue, and there is nothing we can do with your account name. You don't want to give out any login information as someone may attempt to "hack" your account.
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#1049 [13:22] <Gabe> ok :'-(
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#1051 [13:23] <Gabe> so basiccly you dont care if i get to play
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#1054 [13:24] <Lutzee> No we care more about keeping your account secure.
#1055 [13:24] <Gabe> tyteen do you care that i get to play
#1056 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> We make every effort to help out others in our free time as community volunteers, but we know our limits. We have no access to account information.
#1057 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Would you trust a complete stranger with your bank information? No.
#1058 [13:25] <Talven81> Gabe: I recommend going over it with your mom since she purchased the account. There may be something you are missing. If you cannot resolve it together, then have HER go to http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-game- and read through the information. There is nothing we can do for you as we do not work for Mojang (MineCraft).
#1059 [13:26] <Gabe> no i woudnt but on a differ subject do u care i get to play this game or not cause i payed for it and i expect to play the game
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#1061 [13:27] <Talven81> Gabe: We are players just like you, nothing more. We do not work for the company. Please get that.
#1062 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Do we care? Perhaps. Do we get paid by Mojang for providing help to you? No. Are we employed by Mojang? No. Do we see any benefit to ourselves for providing help to you?
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#1064 [13:28] <Talven81> Gabe: Our abilities to help are limited by what we, as players, just like you, have access to.
#1065 [13:28] <Gabe> well is there anything you can do to help me
#1066 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, currently no, except telling you that patience is a virtue :)
#1067 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> oh and Talven81, have you learnt how our bots tick yet
#1068 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> As we've told you before Gabe, no, we don't.
#1069 [13:29] <Talven81> Hmm nope. I assume standard line spam, CAPS spam, character spam, etc.
#1070 [13:29] <Gabe> well i just tryed to login again and it sais user not premium and my mom Fing payed
#1071 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, have your mom check if her bank account was charged
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#1073 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, firstly to your left is VoxelHead
#1074 [13:30] <Gabe> she said that it said trasaction has gone thru
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#1076 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> ??> Talven81 bot/help
#1077 [13:30] <VoxelHead> Talven81: (bot/help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#1078 [13:30] <VoxelHead> Talven81: (bot/help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#1079 [13:30] <Talven81> Yeah I know Vox is the bot. :)
#1080 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> Gabe: when you just purchased Minecraft, or just now?
#1081 [13:31] <Talven81> Gabe: After a purchase, you will receive an email containing a redemption link for your game. Have you received this?
#1082 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> ??>> Talven81 index
#1083 [13:31] <Talven81> Ah there's the list of embedded help. Thanks.
#1084 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, to save your time, this is the full list with the text so you don't have to ??: mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/faqdatabase
#1085 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, VoxelHead is run by DopeGhoti. now to your right, AuBot
#1086 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> !help
#1087 [13:33] <Gabe> okay so i woke my mom up and said mom can i get minecraft she said yes and then she went thru and bought it and i said awsome i am trying to download it can you by chance walk me thru the steps to downoad it
#1088 [13:33] <Gabe> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
#1089 [13:33] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, when your mom bought it, is it when it said Transaction went through successfully?
#1090 [13:33] <tyteen4a03> !motd
#1091 [13:33] <Gabe> yes
#1092 [13:33] <tyteen4a03> !tutorial
#1093 [13:33] <Talven81> Gabe: It said the transation was successful, this does not mean the account has been charged. As well have you received the redemption link e-mail? If not then either you are awaiting delivery, or the transaction has failed and not been kicked back first.
#1094 [13:34] <Talven81> *yet not first.
#1095 [13:34] * Talven81 chugs more coffee.
#1095 [13:34] <Gabe> what are you talking about
#1096 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> !myip
#1097 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, !login checks for login.minecraft.net availability, !check checks if the server is online on that IP, !server and !client points you to the download link of them, !paid does a haspaid.jsp lookup, !reinstall is the same as ?? os/reinst, !myip checks for your external IP. AuBot also does profanity kick (while VoxelHead does linespam mute) and is run by Kealper
#1098 [13:35] <Gabe> what SOMEONE ANSWER ME
#1099 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> there are also 3 other bots: GreyBot, WugBot and Statistics (powers this page: http://statistics.minecraftirc.net/minecrafthelp.html)
#1100 [13:35] <Gabe> !'
#1101 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, please read the message by Talven81 carefully
#1102 [13:36] <Gabe> what comment please repost the comment
#1103 [13:36] <nipper> !check mc.mcdominion.net
#1104 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, xales is also known as being half-bot
#1105 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> nipper, this:
#1106 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> Gabe: It said the transation was successful, this does not mean the account has been charged. As well have you received the redemption link e-mail? If not then either you are awaiting delivery, or the transaction has failed and not been kicked back first.
#1107 [13:36] <nipper> ...?
#1108 [13:36] <Gabe> i dont know what that means
#1109 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Gabe - You may not have gotten minecraft yet
#1110 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> nipper, irc/multitasking
#1111 [13:37] <nipper> lol
#1112 [13:37] * SinZ|offline is now known as SinZ
#1113 [13:37] <Talven81> Gabe: Copy the line, and give it to your mom. She understands how her credit card/bank works.
#1114 [13:37] <Gabe> how do i copy it
#1115 [13:38] <Talven81> I walked into that.
#1116 [13:38] * Disori|off is now known as Disori
#1117 [13:38] <Talven81> Gabe: At this point, I recommend working with your mother. If you two cannot resolve it together, come back here with her.
#1118 [13:39] <Gabe> okay she is gone right now when she gets back i will get on here okay
#1119 [13:40] <Gabe> and ill let you to tak
#1120 [13:40] <Talven81> Sounds good.
#1121 [13:40] <Gabe> okay thanks and talven do u play minecraft
#1122 [13:40] <Talven81> You could say that. :)
#1123 [13:40] <Gabe> cool is it fun
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#1125 [13:41] <Talven81> Bit of a learning curve at first. I recommend while you are waiting for your mom, go to www.minecraftwiki.net and look up things like recipes.
#1126 [13:41] <Gabe> oh and are u guys aloud to talk freely to people
#1127 [13:41] <Amy> Hi I can't get logged on to my new accout
#1128 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, yes we are allowed to
#1129 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> Amy, is there an error message?
#1130 [13:42] <Gabe> hey amy i have the same prob. as u
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#1132 [13:42] <Gabe> thanks talven
#1133 [13:42] <Amy> Yes it says that my password doesn't match my user name and that my email doesn't exist
#1134 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> Amy, are you logging into the standalone launcher?
#1135 [13:43] <Amy> But it has sent my email messages on how to change my password
#1136 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> Amy, did you request one?
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#1138 [13:43] <Amy> Yes, I have requested it 3 times.
#1139 [13:44] <Amy> and it allows me to change it but then will not let me sign on with the new password.
#1140 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> Amy, when you request for a password change, your current one becomes void
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#1142 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> Amy, are you signing with your Mojang account email and password?
#1143 [13:44] <Amy> yes and i use the new one ... and it will not work
#1144 [13:45] <Amy> yes
#1145 [13:45] <Talven81> Amy: Out of curiosity, how long ago did you purchase the new account?
#1146 [13:45] <Talven81> Or I should say register and purchase.
#1147 [13:45] <George> km
#1148 [13:45] <Amy> this morning
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#1152 [13:47] <George> hey i dont have sound on minecraft, is there any reason why?
#1153 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> Amy, you're signing into the standalone launcher, or are you singing into Mojang.com?
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#1155 [13:48] <Talven81> Amy: Have you received your activation e-mail yet? I have seen the register/purchase procedure be delayed. - From Mojang's Support Site "After a purchase, you will receive an email containing a redemption link for your game. However, some slower payment types, such as bank transfers, can take 3-5 business days." - Check to see if your bank has been charged and if you have received the
#1156 [13:48] <Talven81> activation e-mail.
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#1158 [13:49] <Amy> i think it is a mojang account ... I am not sure ... I am helping my sons .. and I really don't have any idea what they are doing .. the one plays all the time and now they younger one wanted an account to play with his brother ... arrr
#1159 [13:49] <Amy> Yes on the activation email.
#1160 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> Amy, I mean if you are signing into Minecraft.exe or on http://account.mojang.com,
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#1162 [13:51] <Talven81> ^
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#1164 [13:52] <Gabe> helo
#1165 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> hi Gabe
#1166 [13:52] <Gabe> hey man are you a robot
#1167 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> VoxelHead is but I am not
#1168 [13:54] <Talven81> Amy: Also keep in mind sometimes the password reset process may take some time. Don't keep resetting your password. Wait a bit as what is called database replication has to happen on the back end. Servers have to talk to servers, and this process usually takes a couple min, but on bad days can take an hour or more.
#1169 [13:54] <Gabe> hey talven
#1170 [13:54] <Amy> I just tried to sign in on the minecraft.net with my email and the last password... no luck
#1171 [13:55] <Talven81> Hi
#1172 [13:55] <Amy> I would be happy to just wait .. then I will try and sign on with my email and new password
#1173 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> Amy, what happens when you sign into http://account.mojang.com?
#1174 [13:56] <Gabe> is there a way my mom could get her money back
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#1176 [13:56] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, take a look at Mojang's refund policy here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#1177 [13:57] <Talven81> <line deleted> Thanks ty that was a much better answer than mine. :)
#1178 [13:57] <Talven81> Couldn't find the exact page.
#1179 [13:57] <Gabe> well what wuz ur answer'
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#1181 [13:57] <Talven81> help.mojang.com
#1182 [13:57] <Talven81> Hehe
#1183 [13:58] <Talven81> Close enough.
#1184 [13:58] <Gabe> hehe
#1185 [13:58] <Gabe> yes
#1186 [13:59] <Gabe> can u give me step by step for how to download it (get the icon on my screen0
#1187 [13:59] <Talven81> Wonder if the support center can be sorted alphabetically instead of last updated... or by number of hits.
#1188 [13:59] <Talven81> Gabe: Sure but you won't get too far until you can login.
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#1190 [13:59] <Gabe> well i need steps
#1191 [14:00] <tyteen4a03> now hang me out to dry
#1192 [14:00] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, sort what?
#1193 [14:00] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, you can just download Minecraft at minecraft.net/download
#1194 [14:00] <tyteen4a03> !client
#1195 [14:00] <Amy> it says Error! Unknown e-mail address or password.
#1196 [14:00] <Gabe> im trying to do it for pc
#1197 [14:01] <Talven81> Gabe: Full instructions at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325960-how-do-i-run-minecraft-
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#1199 [14:01] <tyteen4a03> Amy, have you been charged?
#1200 [14:04] <Gabe> it still is not working cause it pulls up a little window then i type in what i think is my username and password then it says login filed
#1201 [14:04] <Amy> My son was signed on... on our laptop and then moved to another computer and then it wouldnt sign him back on .. we paid with paypal .. and i would say since he was on once it was okay
#1202 [14:04] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, this is supposed to happen because you don't know your login credentials yet
#1203 [14:05] <Gabe> well how do i find them
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#1205 [14:05] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, as I said, they are at your mom's
#1206 [14:05] <tyteen4a03> Amy, are you sure your son signed into the new account?
#1207 [14:05] <Gabe> at my mom's what
#1208 [14:05] <Amy> Yes
#1209 [14:06] <tyteen4a03> Amy, that is strange... did your son save the email address on that computer?
#1210 [14:06] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, your login info are at your mom's
#1211 [14:07] <Gabe> my mom;s what
#1212 [14:07] <George> how do i get minecraft support on here?
#1213 [14:07] <Talven81> George: Just ask your question. Keep in mind there may be others ahead of you.
#1214 [14:07] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, your mom registered the account so only she knows how to log in
#1215 [14:08] <Gabe> but i dont think she does
#1216 [14:08] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, well she registered the account, it is unlikely she wouldn't remember things that she paid for
#1217 [14:08] <George> I have absolutely no sound on minecraft, someone said it was a problem with resources folder but i dont know know what can anyody help?
#1218 [14:08] <Amy> okay my son is still logged on , on the other computer .. could that have something to do with it?
#1219 [14:09] <Gabe> she only knows that she paid for minecraft
#1220 [14:09] <tyteen4a03> Amy, shouldn't affect your website logins
#1221 [14:09] <Amy> with it ... I mean not being able to log on another computer
#1222 [14:09] <tyteen4a03> Amy, if there's something wrong with the website logins, logging into the game will fail too
#1223 [14:10] <Talven81> Amy: The only way that would have an effect is if you are trying to log into the game itself with the same account. In which case it would probably just boot them off the other computer anyways.
#1224 [14:10] <tyteen4a03> Amy, have your son launch Minecraft again, and on the login window check if the email address saved is your new account's email
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#1226 [14:10] <Gabe> tyteen, my mom only knows she paid for minecraft
#1227 [14:11] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, then who registered the account?
#1228 [14:11] <Gabe> she did i think
#1229 [14:11] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, then there goes your case
#1230 [14:11] <Gabe> whats that mean
#1231 [14:11] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, as you said, she registered for the account
#1232 [14:12] <Gabe> i dont now, she bought it
#1233 [14:12] <Talven81> Gabe: Just for giggles... have her try to log in with her e-mail and whatever password she normally uses.
#1234 [14:12] <Gabe> k
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#1238 [14:14] <Talven81> Amy: Sorry lots of people asking for help ATM, we're not ignore you.
#1239 [14:15] <osuka_> Amy: You still there?
#1240 [14:15] <Gabe> but the thing is i was acculy logged in at first and i logged out and then tryed to log on w/ the same stuff then it wouldnt let me
#1241 [14:15] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, what happened?
#1242 [14:16] <Talven81> Just a lot of chat scrolling. :)
#1243 [14:16] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, it could be possible that she logged in once with the correct information
#1244 [14:16] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, as I said, the only way to sort this out is to have your mom tell you the login information
#1245 [14:16] <Amy> yes I was working on the other computer ... we got him sign off and then on down there ..there is a icon on the desk top to sign in ... could that have something to do with it?
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#1248 [14:17] <tyteen4a03> Amy, launch Minecraft again and see if there is an email address in the login screen
#1249 [14:17] <Amy> I am going to try and sign on up here again.
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#1251 [14:17] <Amy> We have to log in with our email.. and not the user name
#1252 [14:17] <Timmy0799> On Multiplayer, after about 5-20 minutes of gameplay, I crash with it saying "Minecraft ran out of memory!" Even though I have plenty of it left.
#1253 [14:18] <tyteen4a03> Timmy0799, how do you know you have plenty left?
#1254 [14:18] <tyteen4a03> Amy, yes
#1255 [14:19] <Timmy0799> I have my Performance window up while playing.
#1256 [14:19] <osuka_> Which window?
#1257 [14:19] <tyteen4a03> Timmy0799, Windows I presume?
#1258 [14:19] <osuka_> Wait, what's your OS?
#1259 [14:19] <Timmy0799> Yes.
#1260 [14:19] <osuka_> ok, so uh...
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#1262 [14:19] <osuka_> Have you tried another server?
#1263 [14:20] <tyteen4a03> ??> Timmy0799 win/client/moreram
#1264 [14:20] <VoxelHead> Timmy0799: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#1265 [14:20] <Timmy0799> I have tried 5, they all do the same.
#1266 [14:20] <VoxelHead> Timmy0799: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
#1267 [14:20] <Amy> None of the boys can log on my web brower but can log on.. on the icon on the desk top ..
#1268 [14:20] <tyteen4a03> osuka_, probably not related to server, since it's a client issue
#1269 [14:20] <osuka_> He said Multiplayer
#1270 [14:20] <osuka_> That's personal experience, though
#1271 [14:20] <tyteen4a03> osuka_, which involves a server and a client...?
#1272 [14:20] <tyteen4a03> Amy, are they using an email address to log in?
#1273 [14:20] <osuka_> yeah
#1274 [14:20] <Amy> yes
#1275 [14:21] <tyteen4a03> osuka_, "Minecraft has run out of memory!" screen is a client-side one
#1276 [14:21] <osuka_> I know
#1277 [14:21] <osuka_> ugh, nevermidn
#1278 [14:21] <osuka_> mind*
#1279 [14:21] <Amy> but I tried using his user name too and it didn't work
#1280 [14:21] <tyteen4a03> Amy, username won't work
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#1282 [14:21] <tyteen4a03> Amy, did you have them log into account.mojang.com with the same info as you said?
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#1284 [14:21] <Amy> You right..
#1285 [14:21] <Gabe> she said all she did was pay
#1286 [14:22] <bea> I have tried to buy minecraft for my daughter ... several times now... it won't load on her computer or purchase either.. what am I doing wrong?
#1287 [14:22] <Doowkram> does anyone know where to report system crashes?
#1288 [14:22] <bea> it won't play online only offline
#1289 [14:22] <tyteen4a03> Doowkram, what kind of system crashes?
#1290 [14:23] <tyteen4a03> bea, were you charged?
#1291 [14:23] <Doowkram> screen crashes when im loooking at my inventory
#1292 [14:23] <bea> no not that I know of... sends me to skrill
#1293 [14:23] <Amy> I just tired and it said something about migrating and then I used the email and it said either email or password was wrong
#1294 [14:23] <Gabe> tyteen did u read my post
#1295 [14:24] <Doowkram> yh thanks
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#1297 [14:24] <tyteen4a03> bea, skrill?
#1298 [14:24] <bea> moneybookers?
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#1300 [14:24] <bea> not sure what is going on
#1301 [14:24] <tyteen4a03> Amy, that account would be the original account you have
#1302 [14:25] <Talven81> Skrill = Moneybookers... payment system.
#1303 [14:25] <bea> yes
#1304 [14:25] <tyteen4a03> bea, check your bank and see if you were charged first
#1305 [14:25] <bea> ok let me go check.. brb
#1306 [14:25] <tyteen4a03> Doowkram, do you have any mods installed, or recently have uninstalled some?
#1307 [14:25] <Gabe> ty i called her she said she only paid she thinks'
#1308 [14:25] <bea> no it doesn't say that it charged my card
#1309 [14:26] <Talven81> bea: How long ago did you purchase?
#1310 [14:26] <tyteen4a03> bea, then the payment failed, try using PayPal to pay if you are on a credit card
#1311 [14:26] <bea> I have tried to pay for it several times now... 3 that I know of for sure
#1312 [14:26] <bea> ok will try paypal... thank you
#1313 [14:26] <Doowkram> yes, ive just installed 3 mods, why?
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#1315 [14:26] <Talven81> Yeah I think I ended up using PayPal on mine too.
#1316 [14:26] <markwilltroll12> can i talk to notch?
#1317 [14:26] <Gabe> tyteen did u read the post
#1318 [14:27] <tyteen4a03> Doowkram, we don't support mods
#1319 [14:27] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, what post?
#1320 [14:27] <tyteen4a03> markwilltroll12, Notch is no longer active on IRC
#1321 [14:27] <markwilltroll12> is notch HERE OR JEB?
#1322 [14:27] <Amy> thank you so much
#1323 [14:27] <markwilltroll12> WOW
#1324 [14:27] <Doowkram> ok, thanks, i'll delete them
#1325 [14:27] <Gabe> my mom said she only remembers paying
#1326 [14:27] <Talven81> Bea: Skrill = UK, so your bank might be rejecting it. - Keep in mind, From Mojang Support Site: After a purchase, you will receive an email containing a redemption link for your game. However, some slower payment types, such as bank transfers, can take 3-5 business days.
#1327 [14:27] <markwilltroll12> are u guys helper of minecraft?
#1328 [14:28] <Talven81> We are volunteers yes.
#1329 [14:28] <markwilltroll12> how about jeb?
#1330 [14:28] <tyteen4a03> however, we are not Mojang
#1331 [14:28] <tyteen4a03> markwilltroll12, jeb is not here
#1332 [14:28] <markwilltroll12> when will he be?
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#1334 [14:29] <tyteen4a03> markwilltroll12, not sure, however it is considered rude to talk to some developers for small chats, and others just ignore you
#1335 [14:29] <markwilltroll12> how?
#1336 [14:29] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, since I have no idea what happened to your account, I think your mom will need to come here in order for this to be resolved
#1337 [14:29] <tyteen4a03> markwilltroll12, how?
#1338 [14:30] <markwilltroll12> do you know what ftb is
#1339 [14:30] <Gabe> okay i will tell her when she gets home
#1340 [14:30] <tyteen4a03> markwilltroll12, yes
#1341 [14:30] <markwilltroll12> wanna play :D
#1342 [14:30] <tyteen4a03> markwilltroll12, unfortunately I'm busy
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#1344 [14:30] <markwilltroll12> aww
#1345 [14:30] <markwilltroll12> ok
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#1349 [14:32] <Gabe> I JUST HAD AN IDEA OKAY SO MY MOM PAID AND THE ACCOUNT IS MESSED UP WILL SHE HAVE TO BY THE GAME AGAIN IF I REREGISTER
#1350 [14:32] <Talven81> Gabe: Please do not use caps.
#1351 [14:33] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, it will only further mess up your purchase
#1352 [14:33] <Gabe> so i cant reregister
#1353 [14:33] <Talven81> Gabe: You will want to fix the existing problem if the purchase has gone through.
#1354 [14:33] <Talven81> Registering a new account will help nothing.
#1355 [14:34] <Gabe> so if i register a new account my mom WILL have to pay again
#1356 [14:34] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, yes
#1357 [14:35] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, so don't do it
#1358 [14:35] <Gabe> ok i wont and why arent people allowed to use caps
#1359 [14:35] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, because all caps is rude
#1360 [14:35] <Gabe> how
#1361 [14:36] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, capital letters are used for emphasis if used right, but if it's all capital letters it's shouting
#1362 [14:36] <tyteen4a03> and shouting is not good
#1363 [14:36] <tyteen4a03> meh, I hate my headphone
#1364 [14:36] <Gabe> k thx
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#1366 [14:37] <Gabe> if i put in my earphones can i hear u guys
#1367 [14:37] <Timmy0799> Was here a few minutes ago for, "Minecraft has ran out of memory!" the solution given to me didnt work.
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#1369 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, this is not a voice chat so you can't "hear" us anyway
#1370 [14:38] <tyteen4a03> Timmy0799, are you on a 32bit version of Java?
#1371 [14:38] <Timmy0799> Yes
#1372 [14:38] <Gabe> are u allowed to cus on here
#1373 [14:38] <Talven81> Timmy0799: You running a texture pack or mods?
#1374 [14:38] <Talven81> Gabe: no
#1375 [14:38] <Timmy0799> None.
#1376 [14:38] <Gabe> why
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#1378 [14:39] <Talven81> Gabe: Because this is a civil chat and place for people to get help, not a place to troll and cause trouble.
#1379 [14:39] <osuka_> try cussing, you'll get kicked
#1380 [14:39] <Gabe> i dare u to say the h word
#1381 [14:40] <tyteen4a03> hiss
#1382 [14:40] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, Timmy0799 was here because his MC kept crashing because of not enough RAM
#1383 [14:40] <Gabe> good u said it
#1384 [14:40] <tyteen4a03> Timmy0799, you will need to use the 64bit Java
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#1386 [14:40] <Timmy0799> Okay
#1387 [14:40] <Talven81> tyteen4a03: Oops thanks, wrong person. So many asking questions.
#1388 [14:40] <Gabe> how do i work here
#1389 [14:41] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, firstly by mastering Minecraft and/or computer networking/programming/similar fields
#1390 [14:41] <Talven81> Gabe: Get a few years of technical support under your belt, learn computers, software, hardware. Help friends and family.
#1391 [14:41] <Gabe> how old are u
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#1393 [14:42] <Talven81> Gabe: I will make you do math for that answer, and we are trying to help people with problems at the moment.
#1394 [14:42] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, you have my permission to shoot math
#1395 [14:42] <Gabe> yes
#1396 [14:43] <Gabe> give me the problem
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#1399 [14:44] <Talven81> Gah he left.
#1400 [14:44] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, wrong peson
#1401 [14:44] <tyteen4a03> Gabe is still here, Timmy0799 however has left
#1402 [14:44] <Gabe> talven are you going to give me the problem
#1403 [14:44] <Talven81> tyteen4a03: Yeah that's what I meant, Tim left.
#1404 [14:45] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, you were going to do what?
#1405 [14:45] <Clovis|Away> Hullo
#1406 [14:45] <Talven81> Hey Clovis. You are still away. :)
#1407 [14:45] <Gabe> tyteen i thot u were going to give me the math problemm
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#1409 [14:46] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, Talven81 is going to
#1410 [14:46] <tyteen4a03> I might, later on, but let's hear from Talven81 first
#1411 [14:46] <Clovis> just noticed :D <-n00b at IRC, still learning
#1412 [14:46] <Gabe> okay
#1413 [14:46] <Gabe> talven u give me theproblem
#1414 [14:46] <tyteen4a03> Clovis, there's an /away feature so you don't have to change your nick
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#1416 [14:48] <tyteen4a03> Talven81 seems to be working so I'll give mine first: My age is the y variable of the vertex of the graph x^2-2x-15=0
#1417 [14:48] <tyteen4a03> uh, -y
#1418 [14:49] <Gabe> im only in 6th grade so i dont know that kind uf stuff
#1419 [14:49] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, if you can solve this problem, you should qualify for volunteer support :)
#1420 [14:49] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, this kind of math problem is taught at 10 to 11 grade in the US system I believe
#1421 [14:50] <Talven81> Since I'm a bit busy I am -(740.173435637/e) = (-y) - sqrt(19621805/5) years old, solve for y.
#1422 [14:50] <Gabe> but i dont know it dude im only in 6th grade and im in america
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#1424 [14:50] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, W|A gave me negative values
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#1426 [14:51] <Talven81> ?
#1427 [14:51] <Talven81> Really? Shouldn't have.
#1428 [14:51] <Talven81> Oh
#1429 [14:51] <Talven81> Oops
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#1431 [14:51] <Talven81> -(740.173435637*e) = (-y) - sqrt(19621805/5)
#1432 [14:52] <Talven81> And quit cheating.
#1433 [14:52] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, now it gives -4000
#1434 [14:52] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, well I am allowed to :P
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#1436 [14:53] <Gabe> tyteen i dont know how to do that problem cause im in 6th grade give something easyer
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#1438 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, are you taught how to deal with variables?
#1439 [14:54] <worldmc> lol
#1440 [14:54] <Gabe> no i wasnt
#1441 [14:54] <worldmc> e is a var
#1442 [14:54] <Gabe> well i might have but i dont remember
#1443 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> worldmc, e is a constant
#1444 [14:54] <worldmc> oh
#1445 [14:55] <Talven81> tyteen4a03: Probably, he just doesn't realize it. They start to introduce algebra at 4th or 5th grade along with basic multiplication/divison.
#1446 [14:55] <tyteen4a03> I see
#1447 [14:55] <Gabe> but i dont remember any thing about varieables
#1448 [14:55] <worldmc> they never thaught me what to do with e and such . in a coding standpoint e can be a var
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#1450 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> worldmc, let's hope mathematicians don't throw stones at you :P
#1451 [14:57] <Talven81> Hehe.
#1452 [14:57] <Gabe> ty i dont remember anything about variables
#1453 [14:57] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, x + 5 = 18, what is x?
#1454 [14:57] <worldmc> yeah or a meteor coming down my roof
#1455 [14:57] <TheSteaksAreHigh> Hey, I can't connect to my server, it always says connection refused connect and it can't reach the server?
#1456 [14:57] <Gabe> 13+5=18
#1457 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, there, you know variables
#1458 [14:58] <worldmc> TheSteaksAreHigh, is the server full?
#1459 [14:58] <Talven81> tyteen4a03: Oh by the way, WolframAlpha did get it right. You were looking at the wrong answer I think.
#1460 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> TheSteaksAreHigh, has the connection ever worked before?
#1461 [14:58] <Gabe> then give me the problem
#1462 [14:59] <tyteen4a03> hang on, still crafting one
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#1464 [14:59] <TheSteaksAreHigh> yeah the connection has worked i've been on it, but no one else has I havent port forwarded
#1465 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> TheSteaksAreHigh, there goes your case
#1466 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> TheSteaksAreHigh, you need to port forward first
#1467 [15:00] <TheSteaksAreHigh> oh ok thanks :)
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#1470 [15:02] <NinjaKirby> lolwut, Ebuyer sells Jewellery, with price figures of £1000. I swear they were just Computer/Office goods not long ago.
#1471 [15:02] <Gabe> is anyone gonna give me the math problem
#1472 [15:03] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, be patient
#1473 [15:03] <Gabe> k
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#1475 [15:04] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, this is the question: {2x + 3y = 128, 6x + y = 128}, solve for x
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#1477 [15:04] <tyteen4a03> (I'm lazy)
#1478 [15:05] <Talven81> Hehe.
#1479 [15:05] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, I would have decorated them more but eh
#1480 [15:06] <Gabe> dude give me some thing easier
#1481 [15:06] <Talven81> Well at least you weren't mean and gave him a recursive data plot with no actual answer only a likely hood of what is an accurate result.
#1482 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> Talven81, I am not evil as that
#1483 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, this is solvable with your normal algebra skills, just takes a pretty long time to do
#1484 [15:07] <Gabe> just give something easier
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#1486 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> Gabe, no can do :)
#1487 [15:08] <Gabe> why?
#1488 [15:08] <rymate1234> tyteen4a03: i got a site for you
#1489 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> rymate1234, eh?
#1490 [15:08] <rymate1234> wolframalpha.com
#1491 [15:08] <rymate1234> For all your maths needs
#1492 [15:08] <rymate1234> xD
#1493 [15:09] <tyteen4a03> rymate1234, don't give the suprise away!
#1494 [15:09] <rymate1234> Lol
#1495 [15:09] <Gabe> have you ever been on the site www.coolmath-games.com/
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#1497 [15:10] <rymate1234> Hey Gabe
#1498 [15:10] <Gabe> hi
#1499 [15:10] <rymate1234> I got a better maths question for you
#1500 [15:10] <Gabe> k
#1501 [15:11] <rymate1234> 6x^2+10=0
#1502 [15:11] <rymate1234> Find x
#1503 [15:12] <tyteen4a03> rymate1234, I threw a similar one before and it didn't work out
#1504 [15:12] <Gabe> 2+10 id 12 so x =2
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#1507 [15:12] <rymate1234> Gabe, x^i + 6x - 2i
#1508 [15:12] <rymate1234> find x
#1509 [15:13] <Gabe> x=12
#1510 [15:13] <Gabe> btw did i get the first one
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#1512 [15:13] <b33fman> heya guys, my minecraft lags horribly when i have sound on, but when its off it runs at 200fps tops, what can i do to fix this?
#1513 [15:14] <rymate1234> Gabe, incorrect
#1514 [15:14] <Gabe> how
#1515 [15:14] <rymate1234> I meant "i" as in the imaginary number i
#1516 [15:15] <Gabe> so i can make that up or jjust take it out of the equation
#1517 [15:15] <rymate1234> No
#1518 [15:15] <rymate1234> it is an actual number
#1519 [15:15] <rymate1234> just imaginary
#1520 [15:15] <Gabe> i dont get it
#1521 [15:15] <rymate1234> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_unit
#1522 [15:16] <rymate1234> In mathematics, the imaginary unit or unit imaginary number allows the real number system R to be extended to the complex number system C, which in turn provides at least one root for every polynomial P(x) (see algebraic closure and fundamental theorem of algebra). The imaginary unit is most commonly denoted by i. The imaginary unit's core property is that i2 = −1. The term "imaginary" is use
#1523 [15:16] <rymate1234> d because there is no real number having a negative square.
#1524 [15:16] <rymate1234> Good luck!
#1525 [15:16] <Eddie> Can we live life without needing imaginary numbers?
#1526 [15:17] <rymate1234> Nope
#1527 [15:17] <Talven81> b33fman: Sec looking up something for you.
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#1529 [15:18] <Talven81> b33fman: When you have the sound running, does it run fine for a while then start lagging? In a fresh world?
#1530 [15:18] <b33fman> talven81: uhh lemme check
#1531 [15:19] <Talven81> b33fmanq: There are several bug reports relating to sound and FPS drop that are high visibility on the JIRA. You probably fall into one of these.
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#1534 [15:20] <shaden12> how do I reset my password?
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#1536 [15:20] <tyteen4a03> shaden12, are you using an email address to log in?
#1537 [15:20] <shaden12> no
#1538 [15:20] <Liam562> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. HELP please. I beg you
#1539 [15:20] <b33fman> Talven81: ok, generated a new world, running at 60 fps, gonna turn sound on
#1540 [15:20] <tyteen4a03> shaden12, reset your password here: http://minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1541 [15:20] <Gabe> rymate what year do i learn imaginary numbers
#1542 [15:21] <shaden12> some one got my password and is using my account
#1543 [15:21] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, has Minecraft worked before?
#1544 [15:21] <shaden12> yea
#1545 [15:21] <Liam562> Yes
#1546 [15:21] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, since when did Minecraft stop working?
#1547 [15:21] <worldmc> did you install any thing in the timeframe of that mc worked and till now? Liam562
#1548 [15:21] <tyteen4a03> shaden12,
#1549 [15:21] <tyteen4a03> ??> shaden12 irc/multitasking
#1550 [15:21] <VoxelHead> shaden12: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
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#1552 [15:21] <Liam562> When I upgraded to Win8
#1553 [15:22] <worldmc> ahh
#1554 [15:22] <tyteen4a03> ??> Liam562 win/dxdiag/bat
#1555 [15:22] <VoxelHead> Liam562: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1556 [15:22] <VoxelHead> Liam562: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1557 [15:22] <b33fman> Talven81: well the fps instantly dropped about 1/2
#1558 [15:22] <Talven81> b33fman: Turn your draw distance down to minimum, see if it continues.
#1559 [15:22] <Talven81> b33fman: Should unload nearby chunks.
#1560 [15:23] <Liam562> Woah ?
#1561 [15:23] <b33fman> Talven81: im not experiencing it now, but previously i had issues like sound glitching stuttering
#1562 [15:23] <worldmc> Liam562, folow what voxelhead jsut said
#1563 [15:23] <b33fman> Talven81: draw distance is on short now, 80 fps
#1564 [15:23] <Liam562> ok
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#1566 [15:24] <Talven81> b33fman: Yeah kinda what I figured... sec.
#1567 [15:24] <Liam562> Download what file ?
#1568 [15:25] <Talven81> b33fman: Check out https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-560 see if that describes what you are experiencing. Also look at the duplicate by tickets on that page.
#1569 [15:25] <worldmc> Liam562, its in the link that voxelhead said second http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1570 [15:26] <Liam562> Ol
#1571 [15:26] <Liam562> Ok*
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#1573 [15:27] <b33fman> Talven81: yup, recreated it, and as i walked 16ish blocks away, fps dropped to 2 for a couple seconds
#1574 [15:28] <Talven81> b33fman: OK only thing I can recommend is voting on that ticket, you can watch it if you want, and comment.
#1575 [15:28] <Liam562> Here, http://pastebin.com/6s1J2P30
#1576 [15:28] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, hang on
#1577 [15:28] <b33fman> talven81: i read somewhere that updating some audio library might help
#1578 [15:29] <tyteen4a03> ??> Liam562 gpu/intel
#1579 [15:29] <VoxelHead> Liam562: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1580 [15:29] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, please note that your GPU is pretty old, and might not have drivers for Windows 8
#1581 [15:29] <Talven81> b33fman: I haven't had that specific problem but you could try updating LWJGL. I dunno if that would fix it.
#1582 [15:30] <Talven81> ??> b33fman java/lwjgl
#1583 [15:30] <VoxelHead> b33fman: (java/lwjgl) See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL for a guide on manually updating to a new version of LWJGL.
#1584 [15:30] <b33fman> talven81: im also gonna try the fix that people have posted there
#1585 [15:30] <Talven81> Luckily my MC runs fine on the base packaged LWJGL.
#1586 [15:30] <Liam562> Should I download this ? http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+4+Series+Express+Chipset+Family&ProdId=2991&LineId=1101&FamilyId=39
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#1589 [15:30] <Talven81> b33fman: There was a fix in the comments? Must have missed it.
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#1591 [15:30] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, yeah, go ahead
#1592 [15:31] <b33fman> talven81: yeah its in the attachments
#1593 [15:31] <b33fman> talven81: i think its a mod or something
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#1595 [15:31] <evil> i bought minecraft and downloaded it then i played it and when i went on it again it didnt work and ive tried several times and i just want a refund???
#1596 [15:31] <Liam562> Which download ? http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20775&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%208*&DownloadType=Drivers#help
#1597 [15:32] <Talven81> b33fman: Ah 3rd party temporary patch. You can try it, I don't see people screaming that it causes problems. But that's at your own risk.
#1598 [15:32] <b33fman> well anyways, thanks for the help
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#1600 [15:32] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, infinst_autol.exe
#1601 [15:33] <Liam562> ok
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#1604 [15:34] <Liam562> Done, now what ?
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#1606 [15:34] <Syfaro> hey Talven81, on that Update LWJGL page there's an auto updater (in case people are having issues with updating themselves) (note: I made it)
#1607 [15:34] <Syfaro> hey Talven81, on that Update LWJGL page there's an auto updater (in case people are having issues with updating themselves) (note: I made it)
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#1609 [15:34] <Syfaro> hey Talven81, on that Update LWJGL page there's an auto updater (in case people are having issues with updating themselves) (note: I made it)
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#1612 [15:35] <Liam562> ?
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#1614 [15:36] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, install it
#1615 [15:36] <Liam562> i have
#1616 [15:36] <Talven81> Syfaro: OK
#1617 [15:38] <Liam562> ?
#1618 [15:39] <Liam562> Please
#1619 [15:40] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, you have?
#1620 [15:40] <Liam562> yes
#1621 [15:40] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, it should prompt you to restart your computer
#1622 [15:40] <Liam562> ok I will
#1623 [15:40] <Liam562> I will be back in a min
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#1631 [15:46] <Liam562> hi
#1632 [15:47] <Liam562> .
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#1636 [15:48] <Liam562> helloooo
#1637 [15:49] <Liam562> jft ?
#1638 [15:49] <NinjaKirby> Que?
#1639 [15:49] <NinjaKirby> Hola senór
#1640 [15:52] <Liam562> ?
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#1642 [15:53] <NinjaKirby> What brings you to town, Liam562? :)
#1643 [15:54] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, did the driver update work?
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#1646 [15:55] <Liam562> nope same error
#1647 [15:55] <Liam562> :(
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#1650 [15:56] <Liam562> What else could I do >
#1651 [15:56] <Liam562> ?
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#1654 [15:57] <tlen> Hello?
#1655 [15:57] <tlen> Ah, okay... Sorry, I'm totally lost on this...
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#1657 [15:59] <tlen> I'm hoping that someone can help me. I've been playing Minecraft for way too long and I've just started having problems. I can't load my saved game (probably >200 hours in it...). It just sits on "loading terrain" for a few minutes before returning to the main page.
#1658 [15:59] <tyteen4a03> tlen, how big is the world?
#1659 [15:59] <tlen> I would guess freaking big?
#1660 [16:00] <tlen> I've explored a lot, I've built a lot...
#1661 [16:00] <tyteen4a03> no, physical size
#1662 [16:00] <tlen> I wouldn't know how to tell, sorry.
#1663 [16:00] <tyteen4a03> tlen, do you know how to get to your saves folder?
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#1665 [16:00] <tlen> Yep.
#1666 [16:01] <tyteen4a03> tlen, Windows I presume?
#1667 [16:01] <Liam562> ?
#1668 [16:01] <tlen> Yes, Windows 7, 64 bit
#1669 [16:01] <Liam562> tyteen4a03
#1670 [16:01] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, did Minecraft work after the driver update?
#1671 [16:01] <Liam562> no
#1672 [16:02] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, chances are it doesn't support Windows 8
#1673 [16:02] <tlen> Yes, I was using it yesterday.
#1674 [16:02] <tyteen4a03> tlen, Liam562,
#1675 [16:02] <tyteen4a03> ?? irc/multitasking
#1676 [16:02] <tlen> Oops, sorry...
#1677 [16:02] <VoxelHead> irc/multitasking: In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#1678 [16:02] <tyteen4a03> tlen, right click on the world folder, click Properties, let it run for a while and it'll tell you how many folders, files are inside it and how big is the whole thing
#1679 [16:03] <tlen> Okay: 117 Files in 7 Folders, 223 MB
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#1681 [16:04] <tyteen4a03> tlen, does other worlds work?
#1682 [16:04] <tlen> I created a new one and it worked fine. I came back later and played some but it then crashed on me--something that has never happened before.
#1683 [16:04] <Liam562> What do you mean ?
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#1685 [16:04] <guest4398> i need help
#1686 [16:05] <mouldy-ipad> what with?
#1687 [16:05] <guest4398> i just bought minecraft, like a wekk aga and i was supposed to get a email
#1688 [16:05] <tlen> Also, I don't know if it is part of the problem, but an IT friend was over last night and he cleaned up my startup services. I hope he didn't deactivate something critical...
#1689 [16:06] <guest4398> mouldy
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#1691 [16:06] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, were you charged?
#1692 [16:06] <tyteen4a03> tlen, the world is probably broken
#1693 [16:06] <Roger_> Is there a number to call for tech support for minecraft/mojang?
#1694 [16:06] <tyteen4a03> Roger_, no
#1695 [16:07] <tlen> tyteen4a03, NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
#1696 [16:07] <tyteen4a03> tlen, calm down, it's not the end of the world
#1697 [16:07] <tyteen4a03> Liam562, it means your computer's graphics card doesn't support Windows 8
#1698 [16:07] <tyteen4a03> ??> tlen mcedit
#1699 [16:07] <VoxelHead> tlen: (mcedit) https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
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#1701 [16:07] <guest4398> i was supposed to get a email that would allow me to setup my username and idek i havent got it
#1702 [16:07] <tlen> tyteen4a03, But you just said it was, well at least it's broken...
#1703 [16:07] <johnmr22> i just purchaes minecraft for mac
#1704 [16:07] <Roger_> well, I bought my son a card, he redeemed it, and it migrated his minecraft account to an email. But the wrong one. Now he cant log on at all no matter which email or user name he tries.
#1705 [16:07] <johnmr22> it crashed and now unable to access it
#1706 [16:07] <tyteen4a03> tlen, I said it's broken, I didn't say it can't be fixed
#1707 [16:08] <tyteen4a03> tlen, firstly... any mods?
#1708 [16:08] <tlen> Nope, I'm pure Survival mode.
#1709 [16:08] <guest4398> mouldy??
#1710 [16:08] <mouldy-ipad> Yes?
#1711 [16:08] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, as I asked, were you charged?
#1712 [16:08] <mouldy-ipad> Indeed.
#1713 [16:09] <guest4398> i was supposed to get a email that would allow me to setup my username and idek i havent got it annd idk yet
#1714 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> Roger_, email Mojang with your gift code and your correct Mojang account information
#1715 [16:09] <johnmr22> is there a fix for this?
#1716 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, you'll need to call up your bank to see if you are charged first
#1717 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, if not, the payment was not successful and you'll have to buy again
#1718 [16:09] <guest4398> it was hard to buy minecraft in the first place because im in illinois
#1719 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> ??> Roger_ mojang/email
#1720 [16:09] <VoxelHead> Roger_: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1721 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, meh, stupid laws
#1722 [16:09] <guest4398> i recieved a reciept number
#1723 [16:10] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, is there an error?
#1724 [16:10] <Roger_> ok thank you
#1725 [16:10] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, as I said, you need to call up your bank first, receipt numbers are not really useful
#1726 [16:10] <johnmr22> yes i have it on my screen
#1727 [16:10] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, can you tell us what it is?
#1728 [16:10] <guest4398> actually i had to call and tell them to unblock the payment and they said they would for a couple of days so i don tkmnow
#1729 [16:11] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, then the payment is currently on hold
#1730 [16:11] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, just wait for a few more days
#1731 [16:11] <johnmr22> BEGIN ERROR REPORT 9ca1a0a7
#1732 [16:11] <guest4398> its been a week
#1733 [16:11] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, oh, don't post it here then
#1734 [16:11] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, you will need to call up your bank for the latest news
#1735 [16:11] <tyteen4a03> ??> johnmr22 pastebin
#1736 [16:11] <VoxelHead> johnmr22: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1737 [16:11] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, paste the error report there
#1738 [16:12] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, alternatively if it can't be copied, take a screenshot and upload it to imgur.com
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#1743 [16:13] <johnmr22> i am on paste bin...once on do I just hit submit?
#1744 [16:13] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, yes
#1745 [16:14] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, then give us the link you were taken to
#1746 [16:14] <guest4398> tyteen wat do i do if they closed the payment
#1747 [16:14] <johnmr22> do i paste it here?
#1748 [16:15] <johnmr22> the link i mean
#1749 [16:15] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, simply buy again
#1750 [16:15] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, yes
#1751 [16:15] <guest4398> um tyteen
#1752 [16:15] <johnmr22> http://pastebin.com/Z6N4RbEx
#1753 [16:15] <guest4398> i barely got around the illinois rule soo i might not be able to again
#1754 [16:15] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, can you paste this file instead: /Users/johnrobayo/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2013-02-16_15.51.08-client.txt
#1755 [16:16] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, just use paypal
#1756 [16:16] <guest4398> paypal has never worked for mwe
#1757 [16:16] <guest4398> me*
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#1759 [16:16] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, you don't need a paypal account to use your credit card to buy Minecraft
#1760 [16:17] <guest4398> i know ive tried that
#1761 [16:17] <jnelmark> Hey is anyone else having issues logging in
#1762 [16:17] <tyteen4a03> !login
#1763 [16:17] <tyteen4a03> jnelmark, what kind of issues are you having?
#1764 [16:17] <jnelmark> mine says cannot connect to minecraft
#1765 [16:17] <tyteen4a03> guest4398, if paypal doesn't work you can buy prepaid cards and redeem it instead
#1766 [16:17] <tyteen4a03> jnelmark, has Minecraft worked before?
#1767 [16:17] <jnelmark> yes
#1768 [16:18] <guest4398> ok bye
#1769 [16:18] <jnelmark> i crashed
#1770 [16:18] <jnelmark> then it says cannot connect to minecraft.net
#1771 [16:18] <tyteen4a03> jnelmark, do you remember installing anything before Minecraft stopped working?
#1772 [16:18] <jnelmark> no i didnt install anything
#1773 [16:18] <tyteen4a03> jnelmark, what happens when you visit http://login.minecraft.net in your browser?
#1774 [16:19] <jnelmark> it says bad request
#1775 [16:19] <tyteen4a03> jnelmark, do you have any mods installed?
#1776 [16:19] <jnelmark> nodus
#1777 [16:19] <jnelmark> but thats it
#1778 [16:19] <tlen> tyteen4a03, I don't
#1779 [16:20] <tyteen4a03> jnelmark, did Minecraft work with nodus before?
#1780 [16:20] <jnelmark> yes
#1781 [16:20] <tyteen4a03> tlen, if a message doesn
#1782 [16:20] <tyteen4a03> doesn't start with your name, it's not for you
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#1784 [16:20] <tyteen4a03> jnelmark, do you have any antiviruses or firewalls?
#1785 [16:20] <jnelmark> no
#1786 [16:20] <tyteen4a03> (Windows firewall count)
#1787 [16:20] <jnelmark> i have it all open
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#1789 [16:20] <jnelmark> oh nm
#1790 [16:21] <jnelmark> it works now
#1791 [16:21] <Ace> Hi
#1792 [16:21] <tyteen4a03> hi Ace
#1793 [16:21] <jnelmark> thanks
#1794 [16:21] <tyteen4a03> jnelmark, no problem
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#1796 [16:21] <Guest29160> Yay I found a mc chat thing
#1797 [16:21] <tyteen4a03> Guest29160, this is not exactly an IRC channel for Minecraft chat
#1798 [16:21] <Guest29160> Hello?
#1799 [16:22] <tyteen4a03> Guest29160, you're looking for #minecraft or #mcchatter
#1800 [16:22] <Guest29160> .
#1801 [16:22] <Guest29160> .
#1802 [16:22] <tyteen4a03> Guest29160, it works, we see you
#1803 [16:22] <Guest29160> .sorry
#1804 [16:22] <Guest29160> My iPad is typing . Instead do question mark
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#1806 [16:27] <johnmr22> http://pastebin.com/yhJPnj5t
#1807 [16:27] <johnmr22> ok how about now...took me a bit
#1808 [16:28] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, hang on
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#1810 [16:28] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, update your graphics driver through Apple Update
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#1812 [16:29] <johnmr22> it says my software is up to date
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#1815 [16:30] <tlen> tyteen4a03, thanks for your time, but I've got to get going. I'll try again later. Ciao!!
#1816 [16:30] <tyteen4a03> tlen, bye
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#1821 [16:37] <johnmr22> ?
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#1824 [16:38] <ferny30> hi
#1825 [16:38] <tyteen4a03> hi ferny30
#1826 [16:38] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, yes?
#1827 [16:39] <johnmr22> There are no updates available
#1828 [16:39] <ferny30> i need help to download the game
#1829 [16:40] <tyteen4a03> ferny30, what troubles are you having?
#1830 [16:41] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, your graphics driver is broken, you might need to reinstall them through Apple Update
#1831 [16:41] <ferny30> we are having trouble downloading the game
#1832 [16:41] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, I am not a mac user so I cannot provide specifics, but at least you know what is wrong
#1833 [16:42] <tyteen4a03> ferny30, what troubles are you having?
#1834 [16:42] <Lutzee> It looks pretty broken to be fair johnmr22, its failing to log its own errors
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#1836 [16:42] <johnmr22> ok will look into it
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#1839 [16:43] <johnmr22> once i fix it...should it work right away or will i need to do anything else?
#1840 [16:43] <tyteen4a03> johnmr22, it should work right away
#1841 [16:43] <ferny30> it say the publisher of this program couldn¨t be verified
#1842 [16:43] <johnmr22> tks
#1843 [16:43] <tyteen4a03> ferny30, ignore the warning and click Run
#1844 [16:43] <thibautv2010> hello my account was hacked I would change everything
#1845 [16:44] <ferny30> now what do i do
#1846 [16:44] <tyteen4a03> ferny30, login and have fun? :)
#1847 [16:44] <ferny30> ive done that i it wouldnt work
#1848 [16:44] <tyteen4a03> thibautv2010, take a look at this article: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483
#1849 [16:45] <ferny30> i have tried to login in but it wont accept me
#1850 [16:45] <ferny30> what do i do
#1851 [16:45] <tyteen4a03> ferny30, make sure you log in with your email address and your password
#1852 [16:45] <moto> i want to download the minecraft program onto a mac desktop and it says that the program is damaged could this be due to me already downloading it on to a pc
#1853 [16:46] <moto> and started to play on the pc
#1854 [16:46] <tyteen4a03> ??> moto mac/gatekeeper
#1855 [16:46] <VoxelHead> moto: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#1856 [16:46] <ferny30> i have tried that and it still wont accept me
#1857 [16:46] <tyteen4a03> ferny30, log into your Mojang account at http://account.mojang.com
#1858 [16:46] <tyteen4a03> ferny30, do you see Minecraft on your Game List?
#1859 [16:47] <moto> i am trying to download it for the first time on my new mac
#1860 [16:47] <ferny30> it says in my mojang account that i have an unredeemed copy of minecraft
#1861 [16:48] <tyteen4a03> ferny30, redeem it, set your username, then login again
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#1863 [16:48] <ferny30> how do you do that
#1864 [16:49] <tyteen4a03> ferny30, you need to click the Redeem link, should be under the Your Games list
#1865 [16:49] <bob> we have a mac, more than system requirements, installed latest version of java, and have clicked on try demo, and it still says missing plug-in, any suggestions
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#1868 [16:50] <ferny30> it says enter your gift code or prepaid card pin , we dont have that
#1869 [16:50] <moto> i want to download the minecraft program onto a mac desktop and it says that the program is damaged could this be due to me already downloading it on to a pc
#1870 [16:51] <tyteen4a03> bob, you need to enable Java in Safari, give chrome a try first
#1871 [16:51] <dinoaj123> I am having trouble loading minecraft on my mac
#1872 [16:51] <tyteen4a03> dinoaj123, yes?
#1873 [16:51] <dinoaj123> when I place the program in my applications folder and launch it does not create a jar floder anywhere
#1874 [16:51] <tyteen4a03> dinoaj123, are you downloading the mac version?
#1875 [16:51] <dinoaj123> yes
#1876 [16:51] <tyteen4a03> ferny30, you mentioned that the page says you have an unredeemed copy of Minecraft?
#1877 [16:52] <ferny30> yes
#1878 [16:52] <tyteen4a03> ??> moto mac/gatekeeper
#1879 [16:52] <VoxelHead> moto: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#1880 [16:52] <tyteen4a03> moto, ^
#1881 [16:52] <moto> ok
#1882 [16:52] <tyteen4a03> ferny30, there should be a redeem link somewhere on the page, I forgot where
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#1884 [16:53] <ferny30> yes we found it but it says to type in a code, we dont have a code
#1885 [16:53] <moto> it still says that it is damaged and cant be opened
#1886 [16:53] <Lutzee> ??> moto mac/gatekeeper/disable
#1887 [16:53] <VoxelHead> moto: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#1888 [16:53] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, any idea about mojang account dashboard?
#1889 [16:54] <dinoaj123> I can get it to run and create a jar folder in my downloads folder (yuck) but then I can not load any mods
#1890 [16:54] <moto> how do i do that
#1891 [16:54] <Lutzee> moto: see the link
#1892 [16:55] <tyteen4a03> ??> dinoaj123 mods
#1893 [16:55] <VoxelHead> dinoaj123: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
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#1895 [16:55] <VoxelHead> dinoaj123: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1896 [16:55] <dinoaj123> but am i loading it correctly? the program I mean
#1897 [16:56] <dinoaj123> souldn't it create a folder within my librast/applications support?
#1898 [16:56] <tyteen4a03> dinoaj123, loading Minecraft?
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#1901 [16:56] <dinoaj123> right. once loaded I should be able to find a folder within my Library,,Application Support forlder according ti the website
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#1903 [16:57] <moto> thanks for your help that worked
#1904 [16:57] <thibautv2010> My account has been migrated by a hacker and Mojang no longer wants remiger what should I do
#1905 [16:57] <thibautv2010> My account has been migrated by a hacker and Mojang no longer wants remiger what should I do
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#1907 [16:58] <thibautv2010> My account has been migrated by a hacker and Mojang no longer wants remiger what should I do
#1908 [16:58] <tyteen4a03> thibautv2010, find your transaction ID of your purchase and email Mojang
#1909 [16:58] <tyteen4a03> ??> thibautv2010 mojang/email
#1910 [16:58] <VoxelHead> thibautv2010: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1911 [16:59] <tyteen4a03> dinoaj123, once your minecraft launches, yes
#1912 [16:59] <tyteen4a03> dinoaj123, if you can't find the Application Support folder, do this:
#1913 [16:59] <tyteen4a03> ??> dinoaj123 mac/.minecraft/lion
#1914 [16:59] <VoxelHead> dinoaj123: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#1915 [16:59] <dinoaj123> but mine is not creating one.
#1916 [16:59] <dinoaj123> lion?
#1917 [17:00] <tyteen4a03> dinoaj123, have you run Minecraft at least once?
#1918 [17:00] <dinoaj123> many times
#1919 [17:00] <ferny30> hello?
#1920 [17:00] <tyteen4a03> dinoaj123, could be located on a different user
#1921 [17:01] <tyteen4a03> hi ferny30
#1922 [17:01] <dinoaj123> computer ony has one user set
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#1924 [17:02] <dinoaj123> do I need lion operating system?
#1925 [17:02] <tyteen4a03> dinoaj123, no
#1926 [17:02] <dinoaj123> i have 10.5.8
#1927 [17:02] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, dinoaj123 can't find his .minecraf
#1928 [17:02] <tyteen4a03> t
#1929 [17:03] <Lutzee> Um..
#1930 [17:03] <Lutzee> you want him to reinstall?
#1931 [17:03] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, he just wants to find it
#1932 [17:03] <Lutzee> ehg
#1933 [17:03] <dinoaj123> we just tried to reistall and the same happened
#1934 [17:04] <Lutzee> should be ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
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#1936 [17:04] <tyteen4a03> .
#1937 [17:04] <tyteen4a03> good, internet did not die
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#1939 [17:04] <dinoaj123> the first time we downloaded we did not drag to the Applications and Minecraft launched from the downloads folder. It created a .minecraft folder there, but it is behaving odd...we tried to reinstall the correct way and now it won't create any folder
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#1944 [17:06] <forbiddenninja> hay i cant download mine craft with other console with my gammer tag wtf
#1945 [17:06] <tyteen4a03> forbiddenninja, are you trying to get Minecraft for xbox?
#1946 [17:07] <forbiddenninja> ya i have mine craft but it want let me play full game after download
#1947 [17:07] <Lutzee> We dont normally provide support for xbox, you probably want to try twitter.com/xboxsupport
#1948 [17:07] <tyteen4a03> forbiddenninja, also, Minecraft for XBox is a separate game from Minecraft for PCs
#1949 [17:07] <Lutzee> If you have purchased the PC game that does NOT entitle you to the xBox version
#1950 [17:08] <ferny30> how to i login
#1951 [17:08] <forbiddenninja> its fore xbox can you help me
#1952 [17:08] <keith_> my son created soem worlds on one comp running windows 7. I bought him a new comp running windows 8. when he logs into his acct on the new comp his worlds created previously are not there. why is this and can I somehow transfer fr
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#1954 [17:09] <tyteen4a03> keith_, worlds are local
#1955 [17:09] <tyteen4a03> keith_, to transfer your world you will need to get to the .minecraft folder, and copy the saves folder over
#1956 [17:09] <tyteen4a03> ??> keith_ win/.minecraft
#1957 [17:09] <VoxelHead> keith_: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
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#1960 [17:10] <ilur> I'm looking for help
#1961 [17:10] <tyteen4a03> ??> ilur ask
#1962 [17:10] <keith_> oh, thanks all. will now try
#1963 [17:10] <VoxelHead> ilur: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1964 [17:10] <VoxelHead> ilur: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1965 [17:10] <ilur> my game keeps crashing over and over again and i just bought it
#1966 [17:10] <benhunter09> ilur: do you have a crash report
#1967 [17:10] <tyteen4a03> ilur, is there an error message?
#1968 [17:11] <ilur> No error message, but i do have an error report on my desk
#1969 [17:11] <benhunter09> Put it on pastebin
#1970 [17:11] <tyteen4a03> ilur, open that file, copy everything in it, paste it on pastebin.com and give us the link you were taken to
#1971 [17:11] <ilur> kk, brb
#1972 [17:11] <forbiddenninja> hay i cant download mine craft with other console with my gammer tag wtf its for xbox can u help and now eror message just lets me play tutorial
#1973 [17:12] <Hstar> umm hello , i have a windows 8 64 bit installed here and i installed a 64bit browser ( Firefox Nightly) along with java 32bit and 64 bit but when ever i run minecraft i get a black screen after login + loading any ideas?
#1974 [17:12] <tyteen4a03> forbiddenninja, Minecraft for XBox does NOT give you Minecraft for PC, they are two games
#1975 [17:12] <ilur> Here is my crash report http://pastebin.com/uVVJg8d5
#1976 [17:12] <tyteen4a03> Hstar, try if you can play through the standalone launcher
#1977 [17:12] <ilur> tnxs tyteen4a03
#1978 [17:12] <tyteen4a03> ??> ilur gpu/amd
#1979 [17:12] <VoxelHead> ilur: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#1980 [17:12] <tyteen4a03> ilur, update your graphics driver
#1981 [17:13] <Hstar> i'm not played through the browser
#1982 [17:13] <ilur> kk
#1983 [17:13] <Hstar> playing*
#1984 [17:13] <forbiddenninja> where do i go for this xbox ploblem i was told to come hire my xbox teem
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#1986 [17:14] <ilur> ah thats a nice AMD autodetect tool, kept browsing for my model but never found a proper instaler
#1987 [17:14] <tyteen4a03> Hstar, you should be playing via the Standalone launcher available at http://minecraft.net/download
#1988 [17:14] <tyteen4a03> forbiddenninja, we don't provide much xbox support here
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#1990 [17:14] <Hstar> i'm using that :)
#1991 [17:14] <Lutzee> forbiddenninja: Okay, where did you purchase the game, the xbox arcade or minecraft.net?
#1992 [17:14] <forbiddenninja> xbox arcade
#1993 [17:15] <tyteen4a03> Hstar, is there an error report or just black screen?
#1994 [17:15] <Hstar> just black screen
#1995 [17:15] <forbiddenninja> and teh 360 verson
#1996 [17:15] <Lutzee> forbiddenninja: then you will need to talk to the xbox support team. the fastest way to talk to them is via twitter.com/xboxsuport
#1997 [17:15] <tyteen4a03> Hstar, can you get a crash report? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1998 [17:15] <forbiddenninja> i did that they transferd me to this sight
#1999 [17:16] <Lutzee> forbiddenninja: they shouldn't have
#2000 [17:16] <tyteen4a03> forbiddenninja, make sure you make it clear that you're asking for xbox help
#2001 [17:16] <Hstar> worked for me before but i had to format my PC
#2002 [17:16] <Hstar> hmm i will check that
#2003 [17:16] <tyteen4a03> ??+ crashreport|How to get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2004 [17:16] <tyteen4a03> fff
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#2006 [17:17] <forbiddenninja> they said it might be the mincraft and thy trid all there trubbl shooting and even ased for help coulden fix
#2007 [17:17] <tyteen4a04> ??+ crashreport|How to get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2008 [17:17] <ilur> ty teen, the setup says the drivers hasn't been testes with xp, is it safe to proceed right?
#2009 [17:17] <tyteen4a04> fff
#2010 [17:17] <tyteen4a03> ilur, that means the driver may not work, but you can give it a shot
#2011 [17:17] <ilur> kk
#2012 [17:18] <tyteen4a03> forbiddenninja, strange support
#2013 [17:18] <tyteen4a04> ??+ crashreport|How to get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2014 [17:18] <tyteen4a04> f7u12
#2015 [17:18] <Lutzee> forbiddenninja: link me to the tweet please
#2016 [17:19] <forbiddenninja> ya it was a girl and thy had now idia what to do thy
#2017 [17:19] <forbiddenninja> how
#2018 [17:20] <Lutzee> Who did you talk to forbiddenninja? ...
#2019 [17:20] <forbiddenninja> did i do it righht
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#2021 [17:20] <tMobile4a03> ??+ crashreport|How to get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2022 [17:20] <tMobile4a03> finally
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#2025 [17:22] <forbiddenninja> cant reacall the girl i dident listen to name and have hering problems srry um is there a support num
#2026 [17:22] <Lutzee> :|
#2027 [17:22] <Lutzee> forbiddenninja: please tweet to twitter.com/xboxsupport we cannot help you
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#2029 [17:22] <Hstar> i got the log where can i post it?
#2030 [17:23] <ilur> tyteem im back after the driver update, is there anything else I should do or keep in mind if it crashes again?
#2031 [17:23] <forbiddenninja> thank u for ur help tak it easy all of u
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#2033 [17:23] <Hstar> hmm tyteen left the chat -.-
#2034 [17:24] <Lutzee> he is still here
#2035 [17:24] <ilur> ok np, can somebody else pick up where he left?
#2036 [17:24] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, I don't think people understood your message
#2037 [17:24] <Hstar> well i got the error log so do i just copy paste here or?
#2038 [17:24] <tyteen4a03> ilur, just run the game again
#2039 [17:24] <tyteen4a03> Hstar, paste it on pastebin.com
#2040 [17:24] <Lutzee> ?? pastebin
#2041 [17:24] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#2043 [17:25] <tyteen4a03> ??> ilur scold/pm
#2044 [17:25] <VoxelHead> ilur: (scold/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#2045 [17:25] <tyteen4a03> ilur, about the random crashes problem, does Windows crash with it?
#2046 [17:25] <ilur> ok sorry teen, that makes sense
#2047 [17:26] <Hstar> http://pastebin.com/MTpZZ0Xf
#2048 [17:26] <Hstar> there
#2049 [17:26] <ilur> Windows doesn't crash, just MC
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#2051 [17:26] <tyteen4a03> Lutzee, I can't take more cases, please take care of Hstar for me
#2052 [17:26] <tyteen4a03> ilur, is there an error message with it?
#2053 [17:27] <tyteen4a03> ilur, or just exits randomly
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#2056 [17:27] <ilur> just exits randomly
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#2059 [17:27] <tyteen4a03> ilur, since you're on Windows XP, your computer could be pretty old
#2060 [17:28] <ilur> I know, I just set it up on low specs
#2061 [17:28] <Lutzee> Hstar: Um, there doesn't appear to have been a crash as such, are you sure it crashes? It could just be taking its merry time
#2062 [17:28] <Hstar> it doesn't crash it just stops there at the black screen
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#2065 [17:29] <Lutzee> Hstar: normally a black screen indicates a crash, but theres no error in the console
#2066 [17:29] <ilur> I can go on and keep playing, but just in case it crashes again at random, I want to know what should I do next
#2067 [17:29] <Hstar> last time it happend i installed a 64 bit browser and somehow the problem got fixed but this time i dont know
#2068 [17:30] <ilur> I have my sys specs handy if you need to know
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#2070 [17:31] <tyteen4a03> ilur, sure
#2071 [17:31] <ilur> kk
#2072 [17:32] <ilur> intel core 2 duo at 2.4 and on ram 3gb (4gb irl)
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#2074 [17:32] <Hstar> i have minecraft running now from like 5-8 mins still black screen
#2075 [17:32] <ilur> radeon x1300/1550
#2076 [17:33] <tyteen4a03> ilur, pretty low spec
#2077 [17:33] <ilur> Yup, thats why I play with low video settings
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#2079 [17:35] <ilur> I defraged the game directory, and I close unnecesarry stuff whenever about to play
#2080 [17:35] <ilur> Still, idk why it keeps crashing if it runs smoothly like that
#2081 [17:35] <ilur> (or if it will continue crashing after the driver update) -> just want to know what I should do next in case that happens again
#2082 [17:36] <tyteen4a03> ilur, probably RAM and XP and 32bit
#2083 [17:37] <ilur> Good thing I was thinking of buying a new pc, mine is currently maxed out
#2084 [17:39] <ilur> Thanks for your time anyway, I know how frustrating TechSupp can be, I'll just come back to -inform- if it keeps crashing after the driver update
#2085 [17:39] <Hstar> minecraft still running on black screen :o
#2086 [17:39] <ilur> Enjoy your weekend, goodluck with that HSTAR
#2087 [17:39] <Hstar> thanks :) cya
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#2091 [17:42] <Hstar> so?
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#2096 [17:46] <Polleo8976> I need help
#2097 [17:46] <Polleo8976> I have a minecraft error that when I click log in it crashes
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#2099 [17:47] <Polleo8976> I re instaled java and got graphic downloads
#2100 [17:47] <Polleo8976> but nothing is helping
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#2107 [17:52] <Gabe> tyteen
#2108 [17:52] <Gabe> hello
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#2110 [17:53] <Gabe> tyteen you there
#2111 [17:53] <heifee> can''t download minecraft.exe, i turned off antivirus protection and it still won't work
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#2114 [17:54] <raindager> my minecraft wont let me join Survival game servers in the looby so i cant play
#2115 [17:54] <benhunter09> heifee: what Internet browser do you use
#2116 [17:54] <Gabe> um well tyteen i spoke with u earlier and my mom is home now you said u wanted to speak with her
#2117 [17:55] <heifee> google
#2118 [17:55] <Gabe> can someone help me
#2119 [17:57] <Gabe> HELP
#2120 [17:57] <Gabe> benhunter i need help
#2121 [17:57] <benhunter09> ??> Gabe ask
#2122 [17:57] <VoxelHead> Gabe: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2123 [17:57] <VoxelHead> Gabe: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#2125 [17:58] <Gabe> hi voxelhead i need help
#2126 [17:59] <heifee> any suggestions?
#2127 [18:00] <raindager> my minecraft wont let me join Survival game servers in the looby so i cant play on those servers only the Survival games I can join any other server
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#2129 [18:01] <benhunter09> I don't know, wait here as there may be someone who does
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#2132 [18:02] <Gabe> SOMEONE HELP ME
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#2135 [18:03] <Gabe> help me plaese
#2136 [18:04] <benhunter09> Gabe: what do you need help with
#2137 [18:04] <Gabe> I am having trouble downloading minecraft after paying for it...can anyone please help me get it downloaded?
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#2141 [18:06] <Gabe> i keep trying to get it downloaded with my email address and password but it says login failed every time...i even tried changing my password but it doesnt do any good, it keeps saying that its incorrect.
#2142 [18:07] <benhunter09> Have you paid for the game?
#2143 [18:08] <heifee> i am having the same problem, and yes i have paid for it
#2144 [18:08] <Gabe> yes, it said successful but it wont let me download it.
#2145 [18:09] <benhunter09> Is your password definitely correct?
#2146 [18:10] <Gabe> yes, we have recovered it and reset it but when i try to login in with the new password, it doesnt go thru....i'm about ready to get my money back if thats possible, this is turning into a headache.
#2147 [18:10] <Gabe> i really want the game tho and would rather be able to download it.
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#2149 [18:11] <benhunter09> I'm not sure about that problem, wait for somebody else
#2150 [18:12] <Gabe> do you know of someone else who might be able to help?
#2151 [18:12] <heifee> can log in , have made my profile, and am trying to download and it says "unable to download"
#2152 [18:12] <benhunter09> Wait in this channel
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#2155 [18:15] <josephjack> I purchased the game it has been taken out of my account but it still hasn't sent me email telling the activation code
#2156 [18:16] <Wug> josephjack: paypal? contact your bank
#2157 [18:17] <josephjack> no it went through and has been taken out but unable to log in
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#2159 [18:18] <Wug> just call them anyway.
#2160 [18:18] <josephjack> paypal?
#2161 [18:19] <Wug> your bank
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#2163 [18:19] <Wug> minecraft transactions get stopped a lot because theyre international
#2164 [18:19] <Wug> sometimes they look like they were successful, but aren't
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#2170 [18:28] <heifee> i got an email saying transaction confirmedfor payment and still cant download, when i click on save it says couldn't be downloaded
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#2172 [18:29] <Ryguy> Hello i still have the same prob with my minecraft. When i got help a couple of days ago it only worked one time and then went back to crashing ever time i exit my invintory
#2173 [18:29] <Ryguy> Help
#2174 [18:30] <Ryguy> I need help
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#2176 [18:33] <heifee> any suggestions?
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#2181 [18:41] <Minecraft_Dad> hello
#2182 [18:43] <FLHerne> Minecraft_Dad: Hoyo
#2183 [18:43] <Minecraft_Dad> it wont let me play minecraft classic on my windows 8 computer
#2184 [18:43] <FLHerne> Minecraft_Dad: Why not? What error?
#2185 [18:44] <FLHerne> Although note that this channel doesn't officially support Classic
#2186 [18:45] <Minecraft_Dad> o but it keep going black
#2187 [18:45] <Minecraft_Dad> i beeen on black for about 10 mins.
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#2189 [18:46] <Minecraft_Dad> hi angel
#2190 [18:46] <Angel42497> hello
#2191 [18:46] <FLHerne> Minecraft_Dad: Probably wrong Java version, do you have one of the latest?
#2192 [18:46] <FLHerne> Or perhaps Classic needs something older, I forgot :P
#2193 [18:47] <FLHerne> Latest Java 1.6 would be my guess, but no guarantees...
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#2195 [18:47] <Minecraft_Dad> i dont know let me see ok
#2196 [18:47] <Angel42497> I set my username as my email is there anyway to change it
#2197 [18:47] <estani17> how do i fix "can't connect to mine craft.net"
#2198 [18:47] <estani17> how do i fix "can't connect to mine craft.net"
#2199 [18:48] <estani17> how do I fix "can't connect to mine craft.net"
#2200 [18:48] <Angel42497> It was a total fail on my part, but I accidently set my username as my email is there any possible way to fix it.
#2201 [18:48] <estani17> how do I fix "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2202 [18:48] <FLHerne> Angel42497: I don't think so yet
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#2204 [18:49] <Angel42497> Well thanks anyways x.x
#2205 [18:49] <FLHerne> Although I'm not very knowledgable on accounts, perhaps they added it recently
#2206 [18:49] <estani17> how do I fix "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2207 [18:49] <FLHerne> estani17: Normally antivirus or firewall trouble
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#2209 [18:49] <FLHerne> !login
#2210 [18:49] <Minecraft_Dad> estani17: YOU CAN FIX IT BY LEAVING IT ALONE AND I MEAN UR DICK
#2211 [18:49] <FLHerne> Minecraft_Dad: Quitit, please...
#2212 [18:49] <Minecraft_Dad> Y
#2213 [18:50] <Minecraft_Dad> I AM A HELPER
#2214 [18:50] <FLHerne> Because insulting channel users is rather against the rules
#2215 [18:50] <Morrolan> Keep it nice, and the voice down a bit.
#2216 [18:50] <Minecraft_Dad> O SRRY
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#2218 [18:50] <FLHerne> And no, shouting garbage in CAPS is not 'helping'...
#2219 [18:51] <FLHerne> Well, that was a bit random
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#2221 [18:51] <Morrolan> Yeeea, kind of.
#2222 [18:51] <Minecraft_Dad> hello
#2223 [18:51] <Morrolan> Well, welcome back.
#2224 [18:51] <Minecraft_Dad> it wont let me ply the demo
#2225 [18:52] <Morrolan> The downloaded demo does not work, you'll have to try the one on www.minecraft.net/demo
#2226 [18:52] <Morrolan> Rebooting to change OS, back in a few minutes. :)
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#2235 [18:56] <Morrolan> Well, there we go.
#2236 [18:56] <tivtwo> my account has crashed what do do
#2237 [18:56] <Morrolan> Your Minecraft? When does it crash?
#2238 [18:57] <tivtwo> I dont know
#2239 [18:57] <dylsmom> My son was banned from his server for doing something that he didn't do. They said that he put up an advertisement and he didn't. He was giving one of his real friends his facetime account. I paid for this account. How does he get unbanned?
#2240 [18:57] <Morrolan> Mojang does not control servers in any way, dylsmom. Those are all run by individuals.
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#2242 [18:57] <Lutzee> dylsmom: The ban was on one server, he is not banned from every server, tell him to find a new server
#2243 [18:57] <estani17> how do I fix "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2244 [18:58] <dylsmom> He has tried that. It seems they are all banning him
#2245 [18:58] <Morrolan> dylsmom: Most servers have a forum or similar somewhere, where one can appeal, though. So if he enjoyed playing on there, that might be worth a shot.
#2246 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> dylsmom - They are not all banning him. Servers are independently-run.
#2247 [18:58] <Morrolan> You know, if he gets banned from every server, then maybe it isn't the server's fault? ;)
#2248 [18:58] <dylsmom> can you give me an idea where to find said forum? Thanks
#2249 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> There is no one authority overseeing all the minecraft servers out there.
#2250 [18:59] <FLHerne> dylsmom: Servers are not run or controlled by Mojang in any way, there's no central organisation. I used to run a small one, in fact :P
#2251 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> estani17 - Check your system's date and time
#2252 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> estani17 - I think you'll find it to be a bit off
#2253 [18:59] <dylsmom> ok. Thanks
#2254 [18:59] <FLHerne> Anyone can run a server, they can have whatever ban policy they want
#2255 [18:59] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Creative use of CTCP TIME, I have to admit that.
#2256 [18:59] <FLHerne> dylsmom: You might want to remind your son to read server rules ;-)
#2257 [18:59] * GreyVulpine winks
#2257 [18:59] <dylsmom> how do you make a server
#2258 [19:00] <Morrolan> Will have to remember that one. :)
#2259 [19:00] <Morrolan> dylsmom: One downloads the server software from www.minecraft.net/download, then sets up any firewall rules, if need be.
#2260 [19:00] <FLHerne> dylsmom: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2261 [19:00] <FLHerne> The tricky bit with running a server is either finding anyone to play on it, or avoiding lag after too many people play on it :D
#2262 [19:01] <FLHerne> Private servers just for friends/family are quite enjoyable, though
#2263 [19:01] <dylsmom> Thanks everybody :)
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#2266 [19:03] <TheAmasian> I tried getting into minecraft and the mojang screen appeared then a long note appeared saying minecraft has crashed and to show you a report
#2267 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Please copy that report to www.pastebin.com, submit it, and give us the URL
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#2270 [19:06] <TheAmasian> Okay i did that
#2271 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Please provide us with the URL
#2272 [19:06] <TheAmasian> http://pastebin.com/480EffiQ
#2273 [19:06] <mcphantom> why am i not receiving the password reset email? i checked my junkmail and still nothing
#2274 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> TheAmasian - Looks like one of your mods is causing a problem with minecraft. Try a force update through the launcher
#2275 [19:07] <TheAmasian> okay
#2276 [19:07] <mcphantom> i dont have any mods
#2277 [19:07] <TheAmasian> hes talking to me
#2278 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> mcphantom - That wasn't directed at you
#2279 [19:07] <mcphantom> ok
#2280 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> mcphantom - Are you sure you're checking the correct email address?
#2281 [19:08] <mcphantom> yes i have tried multiple times on several emails and still nothing...
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#2283 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> mcphantom - It may take a little bit of time for the email to arrive. Otherwise, you can try contacting Mojang with your transaction ID, see to which email your transaction credited to
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#2285 [19:09] <unicorn> hello
#2286 [19:09] <unicorn> i need help
#2287 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2288 [19:09] <unicorn> ok
#2289 [19:09] <unicorn> when i try to open minecraft it does not open
#2290 [19:09] <unicorn> what so ever
#2291 [19:09] <tootoughtarheel> I am trying to download the software on a mac and am getting a "broken" message. None of the suggestions have helped. Any advice?
#2292 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> unicorn - Uninstall and reinstall java
#2293 [19:09] <unicorn> ok
#2294 [19:10] <FLHerne> ??> tootoughtarheel mac/gatekeeper
#2295 [19:10] <VoxelHead> tootoughtarheel: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
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#2297 [19:10] <TheAmasian> okay i updated now how do i get the "mods" folder back into the start screen?
#2298 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> TheAmasian - You'll need to follow the mod's instructions again.
#2299 [19:10] <TheAmasian> okay
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#2301 [19:11] <FLHerne> tootoughtarheel: That message doesn't always work, if not adjust global Gatekeeper settings
#2302 [19:11] <mcphantom> is the mojang help page that links you to the trans id legit? I dont want to give out my credit card if its not
#2303 [19:11] <tootoughtarheel> FLHerne - how do i adjsut the global gatekeeper settings?
#2304 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> ??> tootoughtarheel mac/gatekeeper/disable
#2305 [19:11] <VoxelHead> tootoughtarheel: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#2306 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Set gatekeeper to "Anywhere"
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#2308 [19:12] <FLHerne> GreyVulpine: Oh hey, we have that meesage now? :D
#2309 [19:12] <unicorn_> k
#2310 [19:12] * GreyVulpine nods
#2310 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> mcphantom - Which page?
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#2312 [19:13] <tootoughtarheel> LOL! I am so computer illiterate I cannot even find GATEKEEPER!
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#2314 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Read the apple support page link
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#2317 [19:15] <TheAmasian> I followed the instructions and i tried to get in minecraft and it still crashed
#2318 [19:15] <FLHerne> TheAmasian: Then you probably didn't follow the instructions right :P
#2319 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Then either that mod is defective, it's out of date, or you're not ^
#2320 [19:16] <TheAmasian> aightt i'll try again then
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#2322 [19:16] <unicorn> rror occurred during initialization of VM java/lang/ClassNotFoundException: error in opening JAR file <zip file is empty> C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\lib\rt.jar Minecraft exited with code 1. Minecraft has crashed!
#2323 [19:17] <unicorn> thank you!
#2324 [19:17] <unicorn> reinstalling java worked!
#2325 [19:17] <unicorn> :D
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#2329 [19:20] <TheAmasian> okay it worked. So now i have to put the mod in the 'mods' folder
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#2331 [19:21] <evan> i'm in a cave, I went into darkness and now there's no light, and when I walk around,nothing happens
#2332 [19:21] <Morrolan> Turn up the brightness in the video settings.
#2333 [19:22] <evan> ok
#2334 [19:22] <Morrolan> At 100% brightness you should be able to see faintly even in complete darkness.
#2335 [19:22] <Morrolan> And, for the future, carry a few torches with you. :P
#2336 [19:22] <evan> thanks
#2337 [19:22] <Morrolan> :)
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#2339 [19:24] <evan> how do I turn up the brightness?
#2340 [19:25] <Morrolan> Uh, Esc -> Options -> Video Settings -> Brightness, or something along those lines.
#2341 [19:26] <evan> ok,thanks
#2342 [19:26] <evan> (bye)
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#2344 [19:26] * Morrolan snickers
#2344 [19:26] <FLHerne> Alternatively, make a torch :P
#2345 [19:27] <SinZ> using high brightness is not the best thing to do
#2346 [19:27] <SinZ> as you wont beable to tell where mobs will spawn
#2347 [19:27] <SinZ> so you cant get efficient lighting
#2348 [19:27] <Morrolan> It'd be rather astonished if he had brought no torches, but had coal and wood with him/her.
#2349 [19:27] <Morrolan> s/it/I
#2350 [19:28] * Morrolan stabs Ubuntu
#2350 [19:28] <Morrolan> You're no rolling release distro, goddamn, why do you update so many packages.
#2351 [19:30] <SinZ> I stopped updating packages for that reason
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#2353 [19:41] <JR> I try to load up minecraft - log on no problem - it loads, gives me a black screen and does nothing - I cant figure it out and it has been a month since the last time I was able to play my game. What do I do? I tried re-loading the game and it doesnt help
#2354 [19:41] <Morrolan> Tried a force update yet?
#2355 [19:41] <Morrolan> ?? forceupdate
#2356 [19:41] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2357 [19:41] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#2359 [19:42] <estani17> how do I fix "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2360 [19:42] <estani17> how do I fix "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2361 [19:42] <JR> cool thanks for the suggestion I will try that!
#2362 [19:42] <estani17> how do I fix "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2363 [19:42] <Morrolan> estani17: Do not spam please.
#2364 [19:43] <Morrolan> estani17: That being said, your system time is still off.
#2365 [19:43] <estani17> can you then answer me
#2366 [19:43] <Paco> When I download "Minecraft" from minecraft.net,the game won't lauch to install the files
#2367 [19:43] <Morrolan> estani17: GV did a few minutes back, I just did again.
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#2369 [19:44] <Morrolan> estani17: Your system time and date are a tiny bit off. (Read: >1 month)
#2370 [19:44] <Morrolan> The first of January has been quite a while ago.
#2371 [19:44] <Morrolan> Paco: Where does it get stuck, exactly?
#2372 [19:45] <Paco> I use Firefox and when I double click on the minecraft icon in the "Download" section,nothing happens
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#2374 [19:48] <Paco> Morrolan ?
#2375 [19:48] <UKKNOWN_HOOD> my minecraft said loading updated data and stays like that how do i fix
#2376 [19:49] <UKKNOWN_HOOD> well?
#2377 [19:49] <UKKNOWN_HOOD> im english are you?
#2378 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Nein
#2379 [19:50] <Paco> Who you talking to ?
#2380 [19:50] <UKKNOWN_HOOD> ?? im english can u write english?
#2381 [19:51] <UKKNOWN_HOOD> dont know
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#2383 [19:52] <Morrolan> It is not us whose English I am worried about. :P
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#2385 [19:52] <Morrolan> UKKNOWN_HOOD: Chances are that this is your security software. Which one are you using?
#2386 [19:52] <Morrolan> Paco_: Ehm, have you installed Java?
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#2389 [19:53] <UKKNOWN_HOOD> dont know
#2390 [19:53] <UKKNOWN_HOOD> ithink so
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#2393 [19:54] <UKKNOWN_HOOD> what do i do?
#2394 [19:54] <Paco_> I did
#2395 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> UKKNOWN_HOOD - Disable your security software, try minecraft again
#2396 [19:55] <Paco_> well, I think
#2397 [19:55] <UKKNOWN_HOOD> ok i'll try that but how?
#2398 [19:56] <Jaz> how do i make an icon for my desktop so i don't have to download everytime?
#2399 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> First, figure out what security software you have. Then go into its settings and press the disable button
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#2401 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> Jaz - Just head to http://www.minecraft.net/download and download the launcher. Save it to a place on your desktop
#2402 [19:59] <Paco_> maybe Java is not up to date. What do you think ?
#2403 [19:59] <Morrolan> Jaz: Select 'Save as' instead of 'run' when downloading. :)
#2404 [19:59] <Morrolan> Paco_: It might be worth a shot to get a crash log, so we can look at that one.
#2405 [19:59] <Morrolan> Now if I could find that darn wiki page...
#2406 [20:00] <Morrolan> There we go: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#2407 [20:00] <UKKNOWN_HOOD> i'll be back soon just got to reset my pc becouse its not leting me on controle panal
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#2411 [20:06] <Paco_> didn't workr
#2412 [20:06] <Morrolan> Yea, it's not supposed to magically fix your issue, it's supposed to provide us with a crashlog.
#2413 [20:07] <Paco_> What do I basically need to run the game ?
#2414 [20:08] <Morrolan> Java, a GPU which supports OpenGL 1.something.
#2415 [20:09] <Morrolan> For now, mind providing us with the crashlog you generated?
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#2417 [20:09] <Morrolan> Respectively, if you're stuck somewhere, tell us where you're stuck.
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#2420 [20:12] <Morrolan> Stil around, Paco_?
#2421 [20:13] <Paco_> I told it doesn't work. "line code is not recognizable"
#2422 [20:13] <Morrolan> Have you followed the instructions on http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report yet, to generate a crash report?
#2423 [20:14] <Morrolan> If something doesn't work while following those instructions, you'll have to tell us, only few of us are able to read people's minds. :)
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#2425 [20:15] <Paco_> I have followed method 1 it failed :) i'll try method 2
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#2427 [20:15] <i> k so I downloaded java but it wont work on the browser version
#2428 [20:15] <i> help?
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#2431 [20:19] <Morrolan> Paco_: If that one fails too, provide us with the message it shows you when it fails.
#2432 [20:19] <Morrolan> (Copy-paste, please)
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#2435 [20:22] <Paco_> method 2 failed and no message was shown....
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#2437 [20:22] <tori> my server is crashed how do i fix it
#2438 [20:23] <Paco_> Besides,I am reinstalling the last update of Java SE.
#2439 [20:23] <tori> how do i fix my server
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#2441 [20:24] <tori> plz helm me fix my site
#2442 [20:24] <tori> help
#2443 [20:24] <tori> hello
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#2445 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> ^ Obligatory ^ : Is it me you're looking for?
#2446 [20:27] <Paco_> Thank you Morrolan for trying to help me ;D everything works fine now :D
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#2448 [20:28] <Morrolan> :)
#2449 [20:29] <Morrolan> Err, 1 log -> 2 planks -> 4 sticks, right?
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#2451 [20:29] <Morrolan> Yep.
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#2457 [20:37] <poppymimi> I
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#2460 [20:37] <poppymimi> I have purchased the program and downloaded the approriate video drivers but still can't get the program to load. Please help
#2461 [20:38] <oosca> I've had this problem for a while since around the Halloween update where when I click on login, a black screen pops up and I can't see anything. When i click around I can hear that minecraft has started but again I can't see anything. Any ideas?
#2462 [20:39] <poppymimi> Me too! I just bought it today though.
#2463 [20:39] <oosca> I've tried force updating/ deleting bin/ reinstalling. Nothing has worked and I don't think I have any mods installed
#2464 [20:40] * Disori|off is now known as Disori
#2465 [20:41] <oosca> anyone?
#2466 [20:42] <poppymimi> I think I am going to ask paypal to refund the money. The customer service stinks on this website.
#2467 [20:42] * kerny|zzz is now known as kernymi
#2468 [20:42] <osuka_> poppymimi: lol We aren't customer service.
#2469 [20:45] <poppymimi> I know you are not customer service. The company has set this up so they have no accountability. They just want the money.
#2470 [20:45] <oosca> Is there anyone or anywhere I can contact directly about my black screen issue?
#2471 [20:45] <osuka_> poppymimi: lol, no
#2472 [20:45] <oosca> I can still play in browser, but I just want to get this inconvenience sorted out
#2473 [20:45] <osuka_> They /do/ have customer service. Wait, let me get you the link
#2474 [20:46] <osuka_> oosca: I'll try to help you in a sec
#2475 [20:46] <oosca> ty
#2476 [20:47] <osuka_> poppymimi: This is Mojang's Support Centre, right here: http://help.mojang.com/
#2477 [20:48] <poppymimi> Been There; Done That no answers there either. When I log in, I get a blank screen. Nothing happens.
#2478 [20:49] <oosca> Have you tried running it on browser?
#2479 [20:49] <poppymimi> Yes, still get blank screen
#2480 [20:49] <oosca> hmmm
#2481 [20:49] <oosca> I'm not sure
#2482 [20:50] <oosca> for me I think it might be a java issue or something with the shaders I installed messed up the start up when the halloween update came out
#2483 [20:51] <oosca> but i have no idea. And I'm sorry i have nothing to offer other than to try force updating, or deleting your bin folder or reinstalling
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#2485 [20:52] <poppymimi> Just tried again; my bad. It says it is done loading but just sits there like a bump on a log.
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#2487 [20:53] <oosca> what does it display?
#2488 [20:53] <poppymimi> For some reason it is just showing the chat room dialogues.
#2489 [20:53] <Riley> having trouble downloading in windows 8
#2490 [20:53] <oosca> ????
#2491 [20:54] <oosca> that's strange
#2492 [20:54] <Riley> can anyone help?
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#2495 [20:54] <oosca> poppy what browser
#2496 [20:54] <poppymimi> Maybe I will clean up all the minecraft files that are on my hard drive and start over.
#2497 [20:55] <Riley> minecraft shows in download folder but when you double click or click run, nothing happens
#2498 [20:55] <oosca> riley try redownloading
#2499 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Riley - Uninstall and reinstall java
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#2501 [20:55] <Riley> tried multiple times also disable antivirus protection. have not uninstalled java so will try that
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#2507 [21:00] <oosca_> poppy you still here?
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#2513 [21:12] <SamDan0502> I need to upgrade video card, but not my computer. Can I get a refund?
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#2515 [21:13] <Drahmal> Any one here?
#2516 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> See: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#2517 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Drahmal - Maybe
#2518 [21:13] <Drahmal> Well anyways i need some help with a little redstone contraption
#2519 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I haven't touched redstone in years
#2520 [21:15] <Drahmal> it involves four seperate levers needed to power on redstone torch/block and then be redistributed to four seperate pistons...
#2521 [21:15] <Drahmal> any idea how i can do that?
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#2523 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> So you want a redstone signal that'll be powered on by having 4 levers turned on at once?
#2524 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Or any of 4?
#2525 [21:17] <Drahmal> all four are needed
#2526 [21:17] <jonathan> i have problems recieving the email payment confirmatioin
#2527 [21:17] <Drahmal> to power one signal
#2528 [21:17] <Lutzee> two and gates + another and gate taking the inputs of the outputs of the first two
#2529 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> So you'll want something like: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Basic_Logic_Gates#AND_Gate
#2530 [21:18] <Drahmal> kind of
#2531 [21:18] <Drahmal> its for a ctm map im making
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#2535 [21:19] <Drahmal> in effect i have a giant upside down pyramid, thats hollowed out
#2536 [21:20] <Drahmal> inside is a maze and at the end is a giant empty room
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#2539 [21:20] <Drahmal> this room will have four levers in it, all four are needed to release the players from seperate holes
#2540 [21:21] <Drahmal> once they all flip their respective levers pvp will commence
#2541 [21:21] <Drahmal> any idea how i can do this?
#2542 [21:22] <poppymimi> I uninstalled Java and reinstalled. I got a option to Play and/or download. I hit play. It now says it is updating Minecraft. Does this make sense?
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#2544 [21:26] <CorruptedHelix> Is this an area where I'd be able to ask for help with an error appearing in console on my modded Minecraft? It's not a crash or anything, just a strange error that occurs whenever I exit a world. Works fine, afterwards.
#2545 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, we don't really provide help with mods here.
#2546 [21:27] <CorruptedHelix> Okay then, thanks.
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#2549 [21:27] <evan> I have mine craft 1.4.7, and I would like to know how to switch from survival mode to creative mode.
#2550 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> By having cheats on, and putting in /gamemode s/c/a or /gamemode 0/1/2 respectively
#2551 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> By having cheats on, and putting in /gamemode s/c/a or /gamemode 0/1/2 respectively
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#2554 [21:34] <Drahmal> cool i think i got it, thanks anyways everyone
#2555 [21:37] <Drahmal> im going to do a triple nor gate with a flip flop at the end
#2556 [21:37] <Drahmal> thanks GreyVulpine
#2557 [21:37] <Drahmal> ?quit
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#2561 [21:39] <Morrolan> Ah, should have advised him to wear protective clothing when trying such a dangerous exercise. :S
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#2569 [21:53] <evan> how do I switch from survival mode to creative in 1.4.7?
#2570 [21:53] <Lutzee> evan: /gamemode creative
#2571 [21:55] <evan> l already tried that, and it didn't work.
#2572 [21:55] <JR> how do you switch modes in the middle of the game?
#2573 [21:55] <JR> like survival to hardcore
#2574 [21:55] <Lutzee> On single player you need to have cheats enabled on the specific world btw
#2575 [21:56] <JR> ohhh thats how my friend did it lol
#2576 [21:56] <Lutzee> JR: you will need to close the game and edit the level.dat file for the world you want,you'll need NBT explorer to do that
#2577 [21:57] <JR> where do you get nbt explorer at?
#2578 [21:57] <Lutzee> Google should find it pretty easily
#2579 [21:57] <JR> cool thanks..
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#2586 [22:13] <evan> how do I switch from survival mode to creative in 1.4.7 ?
#2587 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> With /gamemode 1
#2588 [22:13] <bouncylilizzy> i bought minecraft and then i clicked the link to verify my email and it said error unable to verify at this time....what do i do???
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#2590 [22:14] <evan> I tried that, It didn't work
#2591 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> bouncylilizzy - Wait a little bit, then try again
#2592 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> evan - Then you didn't create your map with cheats enabled
#2593 [22:14] <bouncylilizzy> ok thank :)
#2594 [22:14] <bouncylilizzy> thanks*
#2595 [22:15] <evan> what do you mean by cheats?
#2596 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> evan - When you go to create a new world in single player, there's a checkbox to enable cheats.
#2597 [22:15] <DMOCHA> I have a problem with my Minecraft crashing. The video card is fine and everything but when I play in a world, I can't see the mobs move or open chests. I can't access anything. Can anyone help me?
#2598 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Without cheats enabled, commands like /gamemode aren't enabled
#2599 [22:16] <evan> thanks!
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#2605 [22:20] <evan> How do I enable cheats?
#2606 [22:20] <estani17> How do I fix "cant conect to mine craft.net"
#2607 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> evan - By checking the checkbox to enable cheats when you create a new world
#2608 [22:20] <DMOCHA> I have a problem with my Minecraft crashing. The video card is fine and everything but when I play in a world, I can't see the mobs move or open chests. I can't access anything. Can anyone help me?
#2609 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> estani17 - What is today's date?
#2610 [22:20] <estani17> How do I fix "can't conect to minecraft.net"
#2611 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> estani17 - What is today's date?
#2612 [22:20] <estani17> janurary 1
#2613 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> estani17 - Are you sure about that?
#2614 [22:21] <DMOCHA> feb 16
#2615 [22:21] <estani17> Feburary 16
#2616 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> estani17 - So, which is it?
#2617 [22:21] <estani17> Feburary 16
#2618 [22:21] <estani17> How do I fix "can't conect to minecraft.net"
#2619 [22:21] <DMOCHA> Feb 16
#2620 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> estani17 - But what date does your computer think it is?
#2621 [22:21] <estani17> How do I fix "can't conect to minecraft.net"
#2622 [22:21] <DMOCHA> feb 16
#2623 [22:21] <estani17> Feb 6
#2624 [22:21] <estani17> Feb 16
#2625 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> estani17 - No, it doesn't
#2626 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> estani17 - Check your computer's date again
#2627 [22:22] <estani17> Feb 16
#2628 [22:22] <estani17> Feb 16
#2629 [22:22] <estani17> Feb 16
#2630 [22:22] <estani17> Feb 16
#2631 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> estani17 - It does not think it's feb 16
#2632 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> estani17 - Check it again
#2633 [22:22] <keuldude> What year.
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#2635 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> estani17 - Now, what date does your computer think it is?
#2636 [22:22] <DMOCHA> what r u talking about feb 16?
#2637 [22:22] <MrTubs95> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP---ENVY-Phoenix-Desktop---10GB-Memory---2TB-Hard-Drive/6890823.p?id=1218810617189&skuId=6890823 what kind of cooling system does this have? liquid?
#2638 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> DMOCHA, estani17's computer thinks it's Jan 1, 2001.
#2639 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> That's why they're getting their error
#2640 [22:23] <DMOCHA> thats messed up
#2641 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> I'm trying to get estani17 to realize it, and fix it
#2642 [22:23] <estani17> got it
#2643 [22:23] <estani17> thanks
#2644 [22:23] <DMOCHA> Why would the date screw that up?
#2645 [22:23] <estani17> outdated
#2646 [22:23] <keuldude> It would screw up the auth
#2647 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> SSL authentication, used in minecraft authentication, depends on a correct time and date for the handshake
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#2649 [22:24] <evan> what's a checkbox?I don't know computer stuff.
#2650 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> A box, which you put a checkmark in, is called a checkbox.
#2651 [22:24] <DMOCHA> checkbox?
#2652 [22:24] <MrTubs95> ?
#2653 [22:24] <DMOCHA> good one
#2654 [22:25] <keuldude> When you click it, it changes from either having a checkmark in it to not, or not having a checkmark in it to having one
#2655 [22:25] <evan> where do I find a checkbox?
#2656 [22:26] <DMOCHA> Checkbox for what?
#2657 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> enabling cheats in single player
#2658 [22:26] <keuldude> Not a checkbox
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#2660 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> evan - See: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ssYoEcZlxQo/0.jpg
#2661 [22:26] <MrTubs95> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP---ENVY-Phoenix-Desktop---10GB-Memory---2TB-Hard-Drive/6890823.p?id=1218810617189&skuId=6890823 what kind of cooling system does this have? liquid?
#2662 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> evan - Do you know how to create a new world in single player?
#2663 [22:26] <evan> yes
#2664 [22:26] <DMOCHA> Oh, it's not a checkbox, it's just the text that you click on in options or what ever
#2665 [22:27] <keuldude> Are you talking about a LAN world?
#2666 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> evan - Do so, before creating it, go to "More world options"
#2667 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> MrTubs95 - I doubt that thing has water cooling.
#2668 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> MrTubs95 - It most likely just has regular fans.
#2669 [22:27] <MrTubs95> i saw a video about it and it said it did, should i be concerned?
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#2672 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Well I'll be, it does have water cooling. Nothing to worry about
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#2674 [22:30] <evan> can I go to Open to LAN n a world I already have?
#2675 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2676 [22:30] <MrTubs95> nothing to worry about? so do you have to fill those things up?
#2677 [22:31] <evan> will it work?
#2678 [22:31] <evan> bye
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#2680 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> No, most off-the-shelf systems nowadays are closed-loop water systems, meaning you don't ever have to open them up
#2681 [22:32] <MrTubs95> man i hope you dont, id spill water over everything
#2682 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Only with enthusiast-grade water cooling, do you need to mess with creating your own loops, your own pumping system, and providing your own liquid cooling medium
#2683 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> And it's not water, it's generally a form of electrically-neutral liquid medium.
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#2685 [22:32] <CptSpaceToaster> ^
#2686 [22:32] <CptSpaceToaster> wouldn't exactly want water leaking into your system
#2687 [22:33] <MrTubs95> indeed
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#2690 [22:34] <MrTubs95> so do you know for sure that it doesnt need refilling?
#2691 [22:34] <keuldude> I need help with my server. It's started constantly crashing since someone did //set potato on about 1k blocks several times. I have logs. I have reproduced this crash on a vanilla server with the same files. World corruption?
#2692 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> MrTubs95 - I can bet on it
#2693 [22:35] <MrTubs95> is there any way to check? or to know for sure?
#2694 [22:35] <CptSpaceToaster> If you can't open it... then don't
#2695 [22:35] <CptSpaceToaster> and if you can't open it, then yes... it's probably filled
#2696 [22:36] <MrTubs95> i dont even have the computer yet im just wondering before i buy it
#2697 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> MrTubs95 - I'm betting it'll be something like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181016
#2698 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Where it's a completely closed-loop system, with no way to open it up to refill it
#2699 [22:36] <CptSpaceToaster> meaning you can't lose any either
#2700 [22:37] <MrTubs95> if it does need refilling, how hard is that to do?
#2701 [22:37] <CptSpaceToaster> It won't
#2702 [22:37] <CptSpaceToaster> If it breaks... I'd suggest buying a new one before trying to open a closed system like that one...
#2703 [22:37] <CptSpaceToaster> unless you have an access door on the unit somewhere
#2704 [22:38] <CptSpaceToaster> It's really not worth the bother...
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#2706 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> There won't be an access door on an closed loop system
#2707 [22:38] <CptSpaceToaster> that's what we keep saying...
#2708 [22:39] <evan> if I open to lan, what happens, and how do I close to lan?
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#2710 [22:39] <jj_> i can
#2711 [22:39] <CptSpaceToaster> @evan save and quit the world
#2712 [22:39] <MrTubs95> ok im not doubting you guys, but you keep saying you "bet" on it, aint nobody got time for that.
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#2715 [22:39] <CptSpaceToaster> well... that's the risk of a liquid cooled system...
#2716 [22:40] <MrTubs95> risks suck asssssss
#2717 [22:40] <CptSpaceToaster> then maybe water cooling isn't for you
#2718 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c03534739&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=135&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=5295991&prodTypeId=12454
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#2720 [22:40] <CptSpaceToaster> if all your doing is running minecraft... then air cooling will work just for you
#2721 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Comes with a picture of the water cooling system on the video card.
#2722 [22:41] <Owie> help
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#2724 [22:41] <CptSpaceToaster> >>? owie ask
#2725 [22:41] <Jess> something stupid
#2726 [22:41] <MrTubs95> wow, nice research
#2727 [22:41] <CptSpaceToaster> ??> owie ask
#2728 [22:41] <VoxelHead> owie: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2729 [22:41] <VoxelHead> owie: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2730 [22:41] <Owie> i purchased an $80 super admin and the guy running the server took it away
#2731 [22:41] <Owie> because he said i was being abusive and i wasn't
#2732 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Nothing we can do about it Owie.
#2733 [22:41] <evan> does saving and quitting close to lan?
#2734 [22:42] <CptSpaceToaster> @evan yes
#2735 [22:42] <Owie> how do i resolve it though
#2736 [22:42] <evan> thanks
#2737 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Owie - You'll need to talk to that admin
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#2739 [22:42] <Owie> and that's the guy running the server?
#2740 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Owie - Any personal correspondance between you and him, will need to be resolved between you two.
#2741 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#2742 [22:42] <Owie> ok gotcha thnx
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#2744 [22:43] <MrTubs95> that site you sent grey, does that cooling thing need no refill?
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#2746 [22:43] <CptSpaceToaster> If a liquid cooler is advertised as a closed system... IT WILL NEVER NEED REFILLING
#2747 [22:43] <CptSpaceToaster> we keep on saying the same thing
#2748 [22:43] <CptSpaceToaster> closed system = no refill
#2749 [22:43] <MrTubs95> IT DOESNT SAY CLOSED SYSTEM
#2750 [22:44] <Jess> Uh my friend got his PC hacked and his minecraft account suspended. The message said it was suspended for griefing and trying to get in other peoples accounts (but he obviously didn't). The Mojang terms say they can't suspend accounts for just these reasons. Please help.
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#2752 [22:47] <Not> moo?
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#2755 [22:47] <NotJess> moo
#2756 [22:47] <CptSpaceToaster> Are you saying he was suspended from a server?
#2757 [22:48] <CptSpaceToaster> or from logging in entirely?
#2758 [22:48] <NotJess> Logging in entirely
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#2760 [22:48] <CptSpaceToaster> Wow...
#2761 [22:48] <NotJess> I know
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#2763 [22:48] <CptSpaceToaster> Which message are you referring to?
#2764 [22:49] <keuldude> Entirely
#2765 [22:49] <CptSpaceToaster> did he recieve an email?
#2766 [22:49] <NotJess> Yes
#2767 [22:49] <CptSpaceToaster> I'd consider emailing mojang...
#2768 [22:49] <CptSpaceToaster> trying to explain the situation
#2769 [22:49] <CptSpaceToaster> GreyVulpine: What's the mojang email?
#2770 [22:49] <NotJess> Ok. We have the e-mail if you need a quote.
#2771 [22:49] <CptSpaceToaster> I don't...
#2772 [22:50] <CptSpaceToaster> I just can't fix it for you
#2773 [22:50] <keuldude> http://pastebin.com/1a7PvrqL
#2774 [22:51] <keuldude> ^Letter from mojang
#2775 [22:51] <CptSpaceToaster> Hmmm...
#2776 [22:51] <evan> is there a way to enable cheats without opening to lan?
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#2778 [22:51] <CptSpaceToaster> keuldude: ave you emailed the address in the email yet?
#2779 [22:51] <keuldude> I kind of think it's fake, but he says he can't login
#2780 [22:51] <CptSpaceToaster> wait wait wait
#2781 [22:52] <keuldude> He has not
#2782 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> That does kind of look fake.
#2783 [22:52] <CptSpaceToaster> it's possibly he got banned from a server...
#2784 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't suspend accounts like that
#2785 [22:52] <CptSpaceToaster> are you sure he can't Login to minecraft?
#2786 [22:52] <NotJess> I know it looks fake.
#2787 [22:52] <NotJess> He can't
#2788 [22:52] <keuldude> login
#2789 [22:53] <NotJess> And 'severak' is a typing slip.
#2790 [22:53] <CptSpaceToaster> what's the login name?
#2791 [22:53] <keuldude> And it gave the user's email
#2792 [22:53] <NotJess> It has to be some sort of hack
#2793 [22:53] <keuldude> ragewolf12
#2794 [22:53] <NotJess> He says it says 'invalid username or password'
#2795 [22:53] <CptSpaceToaster> oh dear... what's the !haspaid...
#2796 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> !paid ragewolf12
#2797 [22:53] <CptSpaceToaster> !haspaid ragewolf12
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#2799 [22:54] <CptSpaceToaster> IM guessing the actual account itself got hacked and that user who emailed you took your account
#2800 [22:54] <CptSpaceToaster> mojang does not ban accounts like that
#2801 [22:54] <keuldude> I didn't think so
#2802 [22:54] <CptSpaceToaster> in fact... they have no real way of proving that that account even did those things...
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#2804 [22:54] <NotJess> He thinks they moved it on to another e-mail.
#2805 [22:54] <dave> hi
#2806 [22:54] <CptSpaceToaster> Contact mojang and let them know that this guy lost his account, and needs his email reset somehow
#2807 [22:55] <NotJess> Can you check that e-mail?
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#2810 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> We cannot
#2811 [22:55] <keuldude> Can you give us an email?
#2812 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Please fill out a support ticket form for Mojang Support at:
#2813 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> ?? mojang/email
#2814 [22:55] <VoxelHead> mojang/email: You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#2816 [22:55] <NotJess> Thank you! ^-^
#2817 [22:56] <Guest41237> how to retrieve the progressing game back on kindle
#2818 [22:56] <evan> is it possible to enable cheats without starting a lan world?
#2819 [22:56] <keuldude> Not on an existing world
#2820 [22:57] <CptSpaceToaster> evan: Create a copy of the world, but before you select OK, make sure to allow cheats in the new one.
#2821 [22:57] <endman482025> I just created a mojang account but it says that my password or email is wrong how can I fix this?
#2822 [22:57] <CptSpaceToaster> You can create a copy of the world on the world selection page...
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#2824 [22:57] <evan> thanks
#2825 [22:57] <evan> bye
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#2827 [22:57] <Guest41237> we accindently lost the game n v had to reset the kindle. is there any way to retrieve the lost data.
#2828 [22:58] <keuldude> Try to reset your password using your email, endman482025
#2829 [22:58] <CptSpaceToaster> Guest41237: I do not think so... Do you have a backup of the kindld's data with a save file on it?
#2830 [22:58] <endman482025> i did that but it still says its wrong
#2831 [22:58] <keuldude> If it doesn't recognize the email, then....
#2832 [22:58] <Guest41237> no
#2833 [22:59] <endman482025> iit does not recognize email or passwrd how can fix it ?
#2834 [22:59] <CptSpaceToaster> endman482025: did you ever recieve email confirmation of purchasing minecraft?
#2835 [22:59] <Guest41237> can i not retrieve the progressing game from the server
#2836 [22:59] <endman482025> I tried ressetting the password but it still gives me the same error?
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#2838 [23:00] <CptSpaceToaster> Guest41237: Most worlds are stored locally on each device... unless you've set up somthing to play on a server... then no, the world was lost
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#2840 [23:00] <endman482025> Is there a 1800 number to call so they can reset the whole account?
#2841 [23:00] <CptSpaceToaster> endman482025: You probably mistyped your email... You can try and reset it by emailing Mojang...
#2842 [23:00] <Guest41237> oh ok
#2843 [23:00] <Guest41237> thanks
#2844 [23:01] <CptSpaceToaster> Guest41237: Sorry for the bad news :(
#2845 [23:01] <endman482025> how do I email Mojang?
#2846 [23:01] <CptSpaceToaster> ?? mojang/email
#2847 [23:01] <VoxelHead> mojang/email: You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2848 [23:01] <keuldude> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2849 [23:01] <CptSpaceToaster> I win
#2850 [23:01] <keuldude> lol
#2851 [23:02] <keuldude> Is there anyway to save a possible corrupted world?
#2852 [23:02] <keuldude> *possibly
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#2854 [23:05] <keuldude> So.....no?
#2855 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Possible, but takes time and a little luck
#2856 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Try MCedit, try whatever the latest version of chunkster is.
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#2858 [23:06] <megabuilderman01> hi, im having a problem with my mine craft, it no longer allows me to scroll down on my mine craft saves list, and in my inventory (from creative mode). can someone help?
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#2864 [23:11] <megabuilderman01> yoho anyone there?
#2865 [23:12] <cakes> :P
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#2873 [23:18] <kb> when I try to buy minecraft it says I have to verify my email; and a verification link has been sent when i click on the link and verify the email the only options i am given are to import my existing profile or to redeem a gift code or prepaid card by verifying my e-mail address. I have tried over and over and this always is the result
#2874 [23:20] <kb> So. I log in to minecraft.net using my email address and password. I try to purchase the game and it says i must verify my e-mail address, but no matter what I try once I've verified the email address i am asked to verify my email adress again and again
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#2877 [23:21] <Trox> Sweden!
#2878 [23:24] <kb> when I try to buy minecraft it says I have to verify my email; and a verification link has been sent when i click on the link and verify the email the only options i am given are to import my existing profile or to redeem a gift code or prepaid card by verifying my e-mail address. I have tried over and over and this always is the result
#2879 [23:25] <kb> when I try to buy minecraft it says I have to verify my email; and a verification link has been sent when i click on the link and verify the email the only options i am given are to import my existing profile or to redeem a gift code or prepaid card by verifying my e-mail address. I have tried over and over and this always is the result So. I log in to minecraft.net using my email address and password. I try to purchase the game and
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#2889 [23:54] <SinZ> good to see none of the bots kicked/banned me
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