#1 [00:00] <Hammy12Edgar> yea, dell, samsung, and Intel are out here, so I have no clue why, because Dallas is a huge hosting city too
#2 [00:00] <mattym> who is your ISP
#3 [00:01] <Hammy12Edgar> but everyone caps off at 5 now
#4 [00:01] <Hammy12Edgar> Time warner cable business
#5 [00:01] <mattym> yeah, ISPs dont like people hosting stuff from home
#6 [00:02] <Hammy12Edgar> have two connections, one for my business and one for MC, and its a business address, I just renovated a room for me to live in there lol
#7 [00:03] <mattym> are the both business lines?
#8 [00:03] <bobstevejohn> ok i did it
#9 [00:03] <Hammy12Edgar> yes
#10 [00:04] <mattym> and they dont let a business line have more than 5 up, thats crap.
#11 [00:04] <mattym> bobstevejohn so you edited and saved teh file now?
#12 [00:04] <bobstevejohn> yes
#13 [00:04] <mattym> try the website again
#14 [00:04] <Hammy12Edgar> yea, apperently they dont offer that in my part of town
#15 [00:04] <mattym> thats why i hate time warner
#16 [00:04] <bobstevejohn> i did did not work
#17 [00:05] <mattym> In new york, they are the worst
#18 [00:05] <Hammy12Edgar> it was some fiber-copper hybrid they were testing
#19 [00:05] <Hammy12Edgar> there the best here lol
#20 [00:05] <Hammy12Edgar> Austin needs to upgrade to fiber...
#21 [00:06] <mattym> bobstevejohn you did something to your computer that edited that hosts file, you need to figure out what you messed up
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#23 [00:06] <mattym> Hammy12Edgar yeah in big city's it takes time for companies to get the fiber everywhere, it took forever for me
#24 [00:07] <bobstevejohn> dos that meen now or the past and do you have any suggestions
#25 [00:07] <Hammy12Edgar> sigh...yea it even effects my website...
#26 [00:08] <mattym> bobstevejohn in the past, something you did or set up, messed up that hosts file
#27 [00:09] <bobstevejohn> do you by any chasnce have an idea about what i did
#28 [00:10] <Hammy12Edgar> thats why I wanted to suggest a implementation to minecraft, where when player logs in, all the chunks that the server has created will be cached to the client, so that way it reduces upload bandwidth for the server, but requires
#29 [00:11] <Hammy12Edgar> higher download speeds, which are easier to come by
#30 [00:11] <Hammy12Edgar> than high upload speeds
#31 [00:12] <Hammy12Edgar> but Im probably wrong, Im only guessing how the client and server communicate
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#34 [00:16] <Hammy12Edgar_> sorry, my internet is messing with me >:(
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#36 [00:17] <Hammy12Edgar_> Im using my phones lol
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#38 [00:24] <mattym> Hammy12Edgar_ that system would mean that any new player would have to download the whole world at least once
#39 [00:24] <Siefr9775> When I go online in minecraft and try to chat with others, it desplays "cant sent chat message" (or something close to that) i used to be able to chat, now i cant?
#40 [00:25] <Siefr9775> please help
#41 [00:25] <Andrio> Your chat is probably turned off.
#42 [00:25] <Siefr9775> how can i turn it on?
#43 [00:25] <Andrio> It's in the options menu
#44 [00:25] <Andrio> under 15Multiplayer settings if memory serves me correctly.
#45 [00:26] <Siefr9775> ok thank you!
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#48 [00:28] <mcalex> Hey mattym, just stopping by to let you know the issue is resolved
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#50 [00:29] <mattym> mcalex waht was the issue again
#51 [00:29] <mcalex> The issue with the 0-9 cycling
#52 [00:30] <mcalex> keyboard
#53 [00:30] <mattym> oh, what was it?
#54 [00:30] <mattym> stuck key?
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#56 [00:30] <mcalex> There was an anti IDTheft program installed
#57 [00:30] <mcalex> The kind associated with the Comcast Norton issue
#58 [00:30] <mattym> ah
#59 [00:31] <mcalex> except i don't have comcast
#60 [00:31] <mcalex> so it was a free trial of Norton that installed it
#61 [00:31] <mcalex> I just went into control panel/programs and uninstalled it.
#62 [00:31] <mcalex> and everything worked.
#63 [00:32] <mattym> cool
#64 [00:32] <mattym> one day those companies will learn how to make an antivirus program that isnt a virus itself
#65 [00:32] <mcalex> hahaha...you are funny.
#66 [00:33] <mcalex> It's the hackers that need to start an antivirus company. They actually know what they are doing.
#67 [00:33] <mattym> Most companies were started that way, but then sold out
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#69 [00:34] <mcalex> Yeah, but seriously, I appreciate the help. I'm off to bed.
#70 [00:34] <mattym> no prob
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#73 [00:35] <IJWAS> I just purchased minecraft. When prompted for my secure code, it says there is an error. After retrying 3 or 4 times, it says my card is now frozen. However, another tab came up thanking me for purchasing minecraft. The confirmation email was not sent. Did i just buy minecraft 4 times?
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#75 [00:36] <mattym> lets hope not
#76 [00:36] <mattym> you were paying with a credit card yes?
#77 [00:36] <IJWAS> yes
#78 [00:36] <mattym> Ok, a lot of times they get denied, because minecraft is an international transaction
#79 [00:37] <IJWAS> It listen an order number, which because im stupid i closed the window and no longer have
#80 [00:37] <IJWAS> listed*
#81 [00:37] <mattym> call your card company and 1) see if the block this 2) Make sure teh card wasnt charged
#82 [00:37] <mattym> if they*
#83 [00:38] <IJWAS> If it wasnt charged, how do I get around this problem next time?
#84 [00:38] <bobstevejohn> hello
#85 [00:38] <mattym> tell the credit card company that you need to make an international purchase
#86 [00:39] <mattym> bobstevejohn still having issues?
#87 [00:39] <bobstevejohn> yah
#88 [00:39] <mattym> bobstevejohn why are you trying to get to the minecraft website, does teh game still work?
#89 [00:40] <bobstevejohn> yah i play at freinds house
#90 [00:40] <mattym> does it work on your PC
#91 [00:40] <bobstevejohn> not in the last week
#92 [00:41] <mattym> whats your username?
#93 [00:41] <bobstevejohn> omgitsCattleact
#94 [00:41] <tyteen4a03> !paid omgitsCattleact
#95 [00:41] <bobstevejohn> yes
#96 [00:42] <mattym> dammit ty litterally 1ms before me
#97 [00:42] <tyteen4a03> mattym, returns true
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#99 [00:43] <mattym> bobstevejohn have you changed anything with your antivirus or firewall in the past week (since this started happening)
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#101 [00:44] <bobstevejohn> i have routine skans with macafee
#102 [00:45] <mattym> try dissabling macafee for a while, and see if that helps
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#104 [00:45] <Bobicraft> heyy
#105 [00:45] <Bobicraft> please
#106 [00:45] <Bobicraft> somebody can help me?
#107 [00:45] <Bobicraft> My minecraft
#108 [00:46] <Bobicraft> has crashed!
#109 [00:46] <bobstevejohn> ok let me try
#110 [00:46] <mattym> Bobicraft first off, use full sentances
#111 [00:46] <damiang> having trouble downloading minecraft..have disabled pc protection but no luck
#112 [00:46] <Bobicraft> sorry
#113 [00:46] <mattym> Bobicraft did it give you a crash report
#114 [00:46] <Bobicraft> yes
#115 [00:46] <tyteen4a03> mattym, there's no need to pick on users' message styling unless they are too irritating (i.e all caps)
#116 [00:46] <mattym> ok do you know what pastebinis?
#117 [00:47] <tyteen4a03> mattym, throw factoids
#118 [00:47] <Bobicraft> No
#119 [00:47] <mattym> tyteen4a03 i was just telling him that before the spamblocker kicked in
#120 [00:47] <mattym> ??> Bobicraft pastebin
#121 [00:47] <VoxelHead> Bobicraft: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#122 [00:47] <tyteen4a03> mattym, it wouldn't
#123 [00:48] <Bobicraft> Ou
#124 [00:48] <tyteen4a03> mattym, his next message at least took him 3 seconds
#125 [00:48] <Bobicraft> Yes
#126 [00:48] <tyteen4a03> ??> Bobicraft do/,
#127 [00:48] <mattym> Bobicraft follow those ^ instructions and post your crash log there
#128 [00:48] <VoxelHead> Bobicraft: (do/,) The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#129 [00:48] <tyteen4a03> mattym, you also have the do/, for you
#130 [00:48] <bobstevejohn> it did not work
#131 [00:49] <IJWAS> this is the most hassel ive ever experienced trying to play a game. Now my card is frozen and i cant do anything about it until tomorrow -_-
#132 [00:50] <mattym> IJWAS try it again tommorw, make sure they allow the internation transaction
#133 [00:50] <mattym> international* , tho i guess what i typed works
#134 [00:50] <Bobicraft> http://pastebin.com/Ra2uuTUy
#135 [00:50] <damiang> Hi, can someone help me. I purchased minecraft for my son and it wont download. I've tried disabling my PC protection but no luck either - I've also checked the host file but no references top minecraft in that file..what can I do..Thanks
#136 [00:50] <IJWAS> why does it prompt me for a mastercard securecode when the mastercard website says my card can not have a securecode
#137 [00:51] <mattym> ??> Bobicraft forceupdate
#138 [00:51] <VoxelHead> Bobicraft: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#139 [00:51] <VoxelHead> Bobicraft: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#140 [00:52] <Bobicraft> Ok, but when i do it my minecraft crashed
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#142 [00:52] <mattym> damiang What browser are you trying to download on?
#143 [00:52] <Bobicraft> and black screen
#144 [00:52] <damiang> Internet Explorer or Google Chrome
#145 [00:53] <mattym> both with no luck?
#146 [00:53] <damiang> Yep
#147 [00:53] <tyteen4a03> mattym, OpenGL: ~~ERROR~~ NullPointerException: null
#148 [00:53] <tyteen4a03> mattym, Operating System: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1
#149 [00:53] <mattym> have you tried this one http://minecraft.net/download
#150 [00:53] <bobstevejohn> hello:?
#151 [00:53] <tyteen4a03> bobstevejohn, hi
#152 [00:54] <tyteen4a03> mattym, whenever you see an error related to LWJGL, read the system information
#153 [00:54] <mattym> tyteen4a03 the mods installed werent helping either
#154 [00:54] <damiang> No haven't tried that one..will do so now...but does that mean I need to pay for the game again?
#155 [00:54] <mattym> no
#156 [00:54] <tyteen4a03> mattym, if OpenGL is error and Vec3 Pool Size is error, it is 100% the graphics driver
#157 [00:54] <damiang> Thanks
#158 [00:54] <tyteen4a03> mattym, there were no mods
#159 [00:54] <tyteen4a03> *involved in this error
#160 [00:55] <Bobicraft> So mattym what can i do?
#161 [00:55] <mattym> Bobicraft You need to update your graphics card driver
#162 [00:55] <tyteen4a03> mattym, learn to read the stack trace - if it doesn't involve methods from a mod pack, then the mods are not to blame
#163 [00:55] <tyteen4a03> mattym, now, win/dxdiag/bat and you know the rest
#164 [00:55] <mattym> tyteen4a03 Is Modded: Definitely; Client brand changed to 'forge,fml'
#165 [00:55] <tyteen4a03> mattym, unrelated to the issue
#166 [00:55] <tyteen4a03> mattym, OpenGL (system) takes priority over Mods (Minecraft, Local)
#167 [00:56] <mattym> Bobicraft follow the instructions soon to follow
#168 [00:56] <mattym> ??> Bobicraft win/dxdaig/bat
#169 [00:56] <mattym> ??> Bobicraft win/dxdiag/bat
#170 [00:56] <VoxelHead> Bobicraft: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#171 [00:56] <VoxelHead> Bobicraft: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#172 [00:57] <Bobicraft> Ok Thx
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#174 [00:57] <mattym> damiang did that download work?
#175 [01:00] <Bobicraft> http://pastebin.com/sDRyVmqy
#176 [01:00] <mattym> Bobicraft check out the following
#177 [01:00] <mattym> ??> Bobicraft intel/gpu
#178 [01:01] <mattym> ??> Bobicraft gpu/intel
#179 [01:01] <tyteen4a03> mattym, gpu/brand
#180 [01:01] <VoxelHead> Bobicraft: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#181 [01:01] <mattym> tyteen4a03 yeah, im brainfarting tonight
#182 [01:02] <mattym> Bobicraft that site should lead you to a download for your graphics card, install it and see if it helps
#183 [01:03] <Bobicraft> ok
#184 [01:04] <damiang> <mattym> yes it did thanks, had to load Java also, but appears all good now...cheers
#185 [01:04] <mattym> cool
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#188 [01:06] <Bobicraft_> It say: Select the name of a product?
#189 [01:07] <Bobicraft_> what can i put there
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#191 [01:09] <cestislife> Bobicraft_: Download this
#192 [01:09] <cestislife> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22375&lang=eng
#193 [01:10] <Bobicraft_> Ok
#194 [01:10] <IJWAS> I have my order reference number after purchasing, but I am not getting my email to create my profile
#195 [01:11] <cestislife> IJWAS: Login at account.mojang.com/me
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#197 [01:13] <IJWAS> I need a minecraft username on that link
#198 [01:13] <IJWAS> the account info I use on the website is not valid
#199 [01:13] <cestislife> Logged in with your email?
#200 [01:13] <mattym> it should be the same email and pass you used when you were atempting to purchase
#201 [01:15] <IJWAS> god doesnt want me to play minecraft i think
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#206 [01:30] <NinjaBagels> Hello
#207 [01:31] <NinjaBagels> Minecraft crashes every time I try to access my inventory. Please help!
#208 [01:31] <mattym> do you have the crash log? also are you by any chance on a Mac?
#209 [01:31] <mattym> if you have teh crash log use pastebin
#210 [01:31] <mattym> ??> NinjaBagels pastebin
#211 [01:31] <VoxelHead> NinjaBagels: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#212 [01:32] <NinjaBagels> Yes I am on a mac
#213 [01:32] <NinjaBagels> Sure I'll work on the pastebin
#214 [01:32] <mattym> are you by any chance using multiple monitors?
#215 [01:33] <NinjaBagels> Yes I am
#216 [01:33] <NinjaBagels> How do you know all this haha
#217 [01:33] <mattym> ok no need to paste bin
#218 [01:33] <mattym> cause this is a know issue i have a link with how to fix it
#219 [01:33] <NinjaBagels> Okay great that's awesome
#220 [01:33] <mattym> one second
#221 [01:34] <mattym> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/649868-guide-mac-support-101/#entry8508737 Look at #2
#222 [01:35] <NinjaBagels> Thank you so much!
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#224 [01:35] <mattym> I recommend using the screen swapping fix
#225 [01:35] <mattym> the lwjgl update method is still a little quirky
#226 [01:37] <NinjaBagels> Okay Ill try it thanks again
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#228 [01:38] <TwistedDevotion> Is this the minecraft help channel?
#229 [01:38] <TwistedDevotion> oh wait yes it is
#230 [01:38] <TwistedDevotion> Good I need some help with my portforwarding issues, is this the place I would go to?
#231 [01:39] <mattym> We can help
#232 [01:39] <mattym> Whats your issue so far
#233 [01:39] <TwistedDevotion> It was working yesterday, but today the port closed.
#234 [01:39] <TwistedDevotion> I checked my router (a belkin), and everything is pointed to each other
#235 [01:39] <mattym> did you restart the router?
#236 [01:40] <TwistedDevotion> yes
#237 [01:40] <TwistedDevotion> and the modem
#238 [01:40] <mattym> or by any chance reset the computer
#239 [01:40] <mattym> ok, here it the thing
#240 [01:40] <mattym> Whenever you do that sometimes the PC gets a different internal IP
#241 [01:40] <TwistedDevotion> I shuold be able to check that through the ipconfig right?
#242 [01:40] <mattym> yeah
#243 [01:41] <mattym> and make sure that the IP of the server machine is the same, if not chance it in the routers Virtual Servers setup
#244 [01:41] <mattym> belkins call it virtual server right?
#245 [01:41] <TwistedDevotion> yeah
#246 [01:41] <mattym> once youve done that, there is one more thing you can do
#247 [01:41] <mattym> so you wont have to worry about this again
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#249 [01:42] <lu> hiiii
#250 [01:42] <mattym> Hello
#251 [01:43] <lu> hi matty
#252 [01:43] * lu is now known as Guest48930
#253 [01:43] <Guest48930> so I'm having a problem with my server
#254 [01:43] <TwistedDevotion> Question, about the internal IP of the machine. do you mean the IP4 address or is therean IP assigned specifrically to the machine?
#255 [01:43] <Guest48930> identify/lindalu
#256 [01:43] <mattym> TwistedDevotion The ip4 that it currently has
#257 [01:43] * zack6849 is now known as zack6849|Offline
#258 [01:44] <mattym> should be 192.168.2.#something
#259 [01:44] <TwistedDevotion> right, so I matched those two up so the ip in the virt server maches the IP4 address of the machine/
#260 [01:44] <TwistedDevotion> in this case is 192.168.2.4
#261 [01:44] <mattym> ok, test it to see if its working
#262 [01:44] <Guest48930> so I set up a server from my pc, and I seem to be able to get in and play normally. however, my friend cannot join me
#263 [01:44] <mattym> TwistedDevotion if you give me teh address for the server i can test it from here
#264 [01:45] <mattym> Guest48930 give me like a minute and ill give you the info
#265 [01:45] <TwistedDevotion> alright. 50.132.2.124:25565
#266 [01:45] <Guest48930> kk thanks!
#267 [01:45] <mattym> !check 50.132.2.124
#268 [01:45] <mattym> TwistedDevotion Still looks like its not working
#269 [01:46] <TwistedDevotion> it's strange because it shows the connection timed out on port 80 as well
#270 [01:46] <mattym> Never use port 80 for minecraft
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#272 [01:46] <mattym> port 80 is the default for http aka websites and stuff
#273 [01:46] <TwistedDevotion> oh I know, I just tested it to see if the IP address actually worked on "canyousee me"
#274 [01:47] <mattym> Guest48930 You need to forward your ports so others can access your server
#275 [01:47] <TwistedDevotion> normally one would think that port would be open and able to be seen
#276 [01:47] <mattym> http://portforward.com will walk you through it, just skip the page where it asks for money
#277 [01:48] <mattym> TwistedDevotion is there any chance your ISP has a rule against hosting a server?
#278 [01:48] <Guest48930> I forwarded the port 25565 to this ip 192.168.1.138, which is the server IP I am currently using
#279 [01:48] <mattym> Guest48930 ok did you try to give your friend that ip?
#280 [01:48] <TwistedDevotion> let me check. It's comcast so I'm unsure
#281 [01:48] <Guest48930> yes and he is getting an operation timed out msg
#282 [01:48] <mattym> Guest48930 ok
#283 [01:49] <mattym> Thats an internal IP, its used to forward the port
#284 [01:49] <mattym> what you need to give out is your external
#285 [01:49] <Guest48930> ohhhh
#286 [01:49] <mattym> http://ip-adress.com
#287 [01:49] <mattym> that site will tell you waht that IP is
#288 [01:50] <Guest48930> so I should direct him to myipaddress:25565 even while I use a different one to access?
#289 [01:50] <SinZ> yes
#290 [01:50] <mattym> TwistedDevotion can you start from scratch again, make sure a the changes to the router saved properly, and that they match up with the machine IP, also make sure you are forwarding both TCP and UDP ports
#291 [01:50] <Guest48930> oh great! it's working
#292 [01:50] <TwistedDevotion> right
#293 [01:50] <Guest48930> thanks so much matty :)
#294 [01:50] <mattym> Guest48930 yeah, you can use the internal because its your network
#295 [01:50] <Guest48930> have a wonderful day everyone
#296 [01:50] <mattym> anyone outside, needs the external
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#298 [01:51] <mattym> Guest48930 also
#299 [01:51] <mattym> dam
#300 [01:51] <NinjaBagels> what is it mattym
#301 [01:51] <NinjaBagels> she's my friend
#302 [01:51] <NinjaBagels> ill relay it to her
#303 [01:51] <mattym> you dont need to put the 25565
#304 [01:51] <mattym> thats the default minecraft uses
#305 [01:51] <NinjaBagels> oh okay awesome
#306 [01:51] <NinjaBagels> thanks again for all your help! take care
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#308 [01:52] <mattym> so you only need the :##### if its different thatn 25565
#309 [01:52] <TwistedDevotion> !check 50.132.2.124
#310 [01:53] <mattym> lol
#311 [01:53] <mattym> try this
#312 [01:53] <mattym> on your router page click the spot that says DHCP client list
#313 [01:53] <mattym> See what IP is has listed for the server computer
#314 [01:54] <TwistedDevotion> hmm...yep same one
#315 [01:54] <mattym> also in the future
#316 [01:54] <mattym> that list should let you lock in that IP for that machine
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#318 [01:55] <mattym> crap
#319 [01:55] <TwistedDevotion> should the private and inbound port be the same
#320 [01:55] <mattym> TwistedDevotion is the server running?
#321 [01:56] <TwistedDevotion> yes it is
#322 [01:56] <mattym> that !check will only work if it is
#323 [01:56] <mattym> um they should be the same
#324 [01:56] <mattym> i have a belkin as well let me just look at mine
#325 [01:56] <TwistedDevotion> alright thats good I entered it in correctly...
#326 [01:57] <TwistedDevotion> !check 50.132.2.124
#327 [01:57] <mattym> Every box in the port collumns should have 25565 in them
#328 [01:57] <mattym> should be 4 places
#329 [01:58] <mattym> and type should be Both
#330 [01:59] <TwistedDevotion> right, I entered those in correctly...
#331 [01:59] <mattym> and your private ip is the one associated with the server computer
#332 [01:59] <TwistedDevotion> alright
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#334 [02:00] <mattym> you didnt change the port in you server.properties did you?
#335 [02:00] <mattym> or for that matter the ip in that file?
#336 [02:01] <TwistedDevotion> nope
#337 [02:01] <mattym> ok thats good
#338 [02:02] <mattym> did you stop the server when you made changes to the router?
#339 [02:03] <TwistedDevotion> everything is setup the way it's supposed to with my router to allow it to work which it did yesterday...
#340 [02:03] <TwistedDevotion> Oh um, I restarted the server with each change I meade
#341 [02:03] <mattym> ok
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#343 [02:04] <mattym> yeah, something else seems to be up
#344 [02:04] <mattym> the ports are properly forwarded
#345 [02:04] <TwistedDevotion> the problem is what...I've been at this for the last hour or two and I'm drawing blanks
#346 [02:05] <mattym> ok one more thing
#347 [02:05] <TwistedDevotion> The only clue I have is that for some reason on the port checking site my external can't see port 80
#348 [02:05] <clarjon1> waaaaaaaait
#349 [02:05] <mattym> did you add those ports to your firewall?
#350 [02:05] <clarjon1> Port 80? Why would port 80 matter -- it's port 25565 that should be being forwarded.
#351 [02:06] <TwistedDevotion> Let me check (I'm running windows 8 so it might be hard to locate the proper screen)
#352 [02:06] <mattym> yeah, but the site he used to test also saw a problem on 80, tho it still shouldnt effect this
#353 [02:06] <clarjon1> well of course it will -- unless he's running a http server :P
#354 [02:07] <clarjon1> TwistedDevotion: You've made absolutely sure that the port forwarding is being done to the right IP, and that the server computer's IP hasn't changed from a reboot?
#355 [02:07] <mattym> TwistedDevotion add teh port to the firewall as well as adding Java, and the server.jar
#356 [02:07] <mattym> clarjon1 that was his initial issue a reboot
#357 [02:08] <clarjon1> oh!
#358 [02:08] <mattym> but he has since updated it
#359 [02:08] <clarjon1> I'd just double check with the output from ipconfig in a cmd.exe window
#360 [02:08] <clarjon1> just to make absolutely sure that it's right.
#361 [02:08] <TwistedDevotion> okay I added the ports as inboundrules...
#362 [02:08] <mattym> ipconfig and his routers DHCP list both had the same ip for his server machine
#363 [02:09] <mattym> TwistedDevotion have you added Java as an exception or whatever they call it
#364 [02:10] <mattym> If windows 8 is anything like 7 it will sawy something like Allow a program or feature through
#365 [02:10] * frdmn|afk is now known as frdmn
#366 [02:10] <TwistedDevotion> Yeah is seems the Java SE library is on there as an exception (4 times strangely enough)
#367 [02:10] <mattym> yeah that happens
#368 [02:10] <mattym> versions and stuff
#369 [02:11] <mattym> ok start the server back up
#370 [02:11] <TwistedDevotion> okay it's running
#371 [02:11] <mattym> still seems to not work
#372 [02:12] <mattym> you may want to try rebooting the server machine again
#373 [02:12] <mattym> then of coarse check all the ips again
#374 [02:13] <TwistedDevotion> alright perhaps I should try a hard reset this time
#375 [02:13] <TwistedDevotion> instead of a soft one
#376 [02:13] <mattym> yeah
#377 [02:14] <TwistedDevotion> alright give me a moment...
#378 [02:14] <mattym> take your time
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#381 [02:16] <TwistedDevotion_> back
#382 [02:16] <mattym> ok
#383 [02:17] <mattym> like i said
#384 [02:17] <mattym> check the settings again make sure everything is still good
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#386 [02:18] <TwistedDevotion_> yep all ips are exactly the same...
#387 [02:18] <mattym> start it up and check it
#388 [02:18] <TwistedDevotion_> !check 50.132.2.124
#389 [02:19] <TwistedDevotion_> =_=...
#390 [02:19] <mattym> Does comcast put any type of their own security software on your network
#391 [02:19] <SinZ> !check TwistedDevotion_
#392 [02:20] <SinZ> heh
#393 [02:20] <TwistedDevotion_> not that I'm aware of
#394 [02:20] * SinZ forgets if that works still
#394 [02:20] <TwistedDevotion_> I did a search and found that comcast has nothing setup that should interfere with minecraft
#395 [02:20] <SinZ> http://canyouseeme.org/ <-- use that site
#396 [02:20] <mattym> thats really weird then
#397 [02:21] <TwistedDevotion_> the connection timed out
#398 [02:21] <TwistedDevotion_> something is hanging in the connection protocols
#399 [02:22] <SinZ> timed out means it it may be a portforwarding problem, or the port-forwarded computer, isn't even running
#400 [02:23] <TwistedDevotion_> the thing is that everything is running and the poarts appear to be forwarded properly
#401 [02:23] <TwistedDevotion_> nothings mispelled or out of place...
#402 [02:26] <mattym> !check 207.38.203.53
#403 [02:26] <mattym> hmm thats odd, mine wont work either
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#407 [02:28] <TwistedDevotion> sorry about that
#408 [02:28] <mattym> happens
#409 [02:28] <mattym> i checked mine as well and for some reason its not working either
#410 [02:31] <TwistedDevotion> unfortunately even that router reset hasn'tsolved my problem =_=
#411 [02:32] <TwistedDevotion> I guess I'll just have to hope the problem corrects itself in the next ferwe days
#412 [02:32] <TwistedDevotion> *few
#413 [02:32] <mattym> im getting the same issue also a belkin, trying to test some things
#414 [02:33] <TwistedDevotion> do you think it has to do with the router?
#415 [02:33] <mattym> i doubt it
#416 [02:36] <mattym> i may have something
#417 [02:37] <mattym> !check 207.38.203.53
#418 [02:37] <mattym> !check mattym
#419 [02:37] <mattym> SinZ !check on name no longer works
#420 [02:38] <mattym> TwistedDevotion when you launch your server, do you use the EXE or a Jar with a Bat file
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#422 [02:40] <TwistedDevotion> I use the exe
#423 [02:40] <mattym> hmm
#424 [02:40] <mattym> well tehn
#425 [02:40] <mattym> when i used an old bat and jar setup it didnt work
#426 [02:40] <mattym> but did with the EXE
#427 [02:41] <mattym> but your already using taht
#428 [02:41] <mattym> that*
#429 [02:42] <SinZ> mattym: makes me want to make SinZBot have that feature
#430 [02:43] <SinZ> not that SinZBot is allowed in here when Voxelhead is
#431 [02:43] <TwistedDevotion> !check 50.132.2.124
#432 [02:43] * TwistedDevotion curses in Japanese
#432 [02:44] <mattym> hey TwistedDevotion are you sure that the port is set properly in the server.properties file?
#433 [02:44] <TwistedDevotion> yeah
#434 [02:46] <mattym> hmm
#435 [02:46] <mattym> this is beyond odd
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#437 [02:46] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion: Would you mind finding out what the WAN IP address is from your router?
#438 [02:47] <TwistedDevotion> 50.132.2.124
#439 [02:47] <mattym> not that
#440 [02:47] <mattym> it should be on the first page of your router
#441 [02:47] <DiskDaemon> The router's WAN IP may be different from your external IP address
#442 [02:48] <TwistedDevotion> It gives me the same one when I google search my external ip
#443 [02:49] <DiskDaemon> Okay, that's good. That rules out you being double-natted at least
#444 [02:49] <mattym> With his router if he was double natted it would have already been obvious
#445 [02:50] <DiskDaemon> Further on from here, it is possible to check that the port forwarding is properly set up without involving Minecraft
#446 [02:51] <DiskDaemon> The port forwarding can be checked by using the 1.0.39 version of PFPortChecker that's found linked from this forum thread - http://boards.portforward.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2485
#447 [02:53] <TwistedDevotion> according to the tool it's unable to ping my router
#448 [02:53] <DiskDaemon> mattym: TwistedDevotion: Okay, that's a good find
#449 [02:54] <DiskDaemon> mattym: I was going to ask, if anything on his local side has been confirmed as working
#450 [02:55] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion: Is it that the problem can't ping your router, or is it that the web site can't contact your router?
#451 [02:55] <DiskDaemon> s/problem/program
#452 [02:55] <TwistedDevotion> hmm...
#453 [02:56] <mattym> DiskDaemon if you read back in the chat, it seems that it was working yesterday, but stopped after a reboot messed with the internal IP number of the machine
#454 [02:57] <DiskDaemon> That would seem to be as simple as updating the router to forward to the new IP of the local server
#455 [02:58] <mattym> yeah, trust me hes tried that
#456 [02:58] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#457 [02:58] <mattym> but...
#458 [02:58] <mattym> still no results
#459 [02:58] <DiskDaemon> So, what can't ping the router? The port forward program running on the computer, or the web site attempting to check that the port is open?
#460 [02:59] <TwistedDevotion> thats what I'm attempting to check
#461 [03:00] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion: Perhaps there is something that we might be able to interpret, from the error message that the program is giving you
#462 [03:01] <TwistedDevotion> like?
#463 [03:02] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion: Can we see a screenshot of what happens with the program when the test doesn't succeed?
#464 [03:03] <TwistedDevotion> sure
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#466 [03:10] <TwistedDevotion_> alright here it is: http://imgur.com/6R89967
#467 [03:10] <TwistedDevotion_> It's the same for UPD
#468 [03:10] <TwistedDevotion_> *UDP
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#470 [03:11] <DiskDaemon> Okay, so that's pinging frmo the internet to your router. You'll be wanting to make your router pingable from the internet before that testing can carry on any further
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#473 [03:12] <TwistedDevotion_> I'm not sure I understand
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#475 [03:13] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion_: Currently, your router is not responding to conenction requests that come in from the internet
#476 [03:13] <TwistedDevotion_> that would explain why my external IP won't respond to port 80 (a port that is should respond to)
#477 [03:13] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion_: Some routers have in their WAN Setup section, the ability to specify whether the router responds to pings from the internet
#478 [03:14] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion_: You have no server on your computer that responds to port 80. Most people do not.
#479 [03:14] <TwistedDevotion_> The belkin settings only show that I can change my connection type Mac address and DNS servers
#480 [03:15] <DiskDaemon> What type of belkin?
#481 [03:15] <mattym> What is your Connection Type set to
#482 [03:15] <TwistedDevotion_> Dynamic
#483 [03:16] <DiskDaemon> Dynamic seems to have caused your problem with the Minecraft server. That's what caused the computer IP address to change
#484 [03:16] <TwistedDevotion_> should it be static?
#485 [03:16] <DiskDaemon> yes
#486 [03:17] <mattym> DiskDaemon I have a belkin, and its set to Dynamic and works fine, <- just for reference, not to say its not his problem
#487 [03:17] <DiskDaemon> Then, after the computer has shut down and restarted, you can find out the new static IP address of the computer, and port forward to that static IP address of your computer
#488 [03:17] <TwistedDevotion_> so then I should just leave the settings at 0.0.0.0 and restart the computer?
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#490 [03:18] <mattym> No, the Connection Type is between the router/moden and ISP
#491 [03:18] <DiskDaemon> Leave at 0.0.0.0 ? I've never known that to be correct in any way, shape or form
#492 [03:18] <TwistedDevotion_> right, it's asking me to define the IP subnet mask and DNS when I switch to static as the connection type
#493 [03:18] <TwistedDevotion_> I'm in the belkin router settings
#494 [03:19] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion_: Would you like detailed instructions on how to port forward your router for a Minecraft server?
#495 [03:20] <TwistedDevotion_> sure anything helps
#496 [03:20] <DiskDaemon> Then please - tell me the model of your bloody router
#497 [03:20] <TwistedDevotion_> okay okay, I was getting to that...
#498 [03:21] <TwistedDevotion_> F9K1103 v1 I believe thats it
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#501 [03:21] <DiskDaemon> Detailed instructions for that router are found at http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Belkin/F9K1103v1/Minecraft_Server.htm
#502 [03:23] <TwistedDevotion_> These were the instructions I followed to get it working last time.
#503 [03:23] <mattym> DiskDaemon the dynamic/static he was looking at before was not the ones he needed to change
#504 [03:23] <DiskDaemon> Right near the start the instructions say "To setup port forwarding on this router your computer needs to have a static ip address." so it seems tht the instructions have not be properly followed
#505 [03:24] <SinZ> noone ever follows that step these days..
#506 [03:24] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion_: If it helps, that site has a free program to help you set up the statis IP address part of things for you
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#508 [03:25] <TwistedDevotion_> so then static/dynamic connection isn't set within the router's internal settings?
#509 [03:25] <TwistedDevotion_> is it through the adapter settings in windows instead?
#510 [03:25] <mattym> yeah do it that way
#511 [03:25] <TwistedDevotion_> DiskDaemon: which program?
#512 [03:25] <mattym> switch the routers Connection Type back to dynamic
#513 [03:25] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion_: It's the router settings that determine static/dynamic in terms of IP address allocation - the program can set up your router for you
#514 [03:26] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion_: The program is linked from the start of that page of instructions - please read them
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#516 [03:30] <TwistedDevotion> Okay the IP address is now static, I've checked all of the ports and lined everything up according to the instructions you guys gave me
#517 [03:30] <TwistedDevotion> still the same arror
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#519 [03:31] <DiskDaemon> It's good to know now that what you're needing to get dealt with, is narrowed down to allowing the router to be pinged from the internet, so that the port forward checker program can ensure that things are working right for you there
#520 [03:32] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion: Do you have the manual for your router?
#521 [03:32] <TwistedDevotion> yeah I'm thumbing through it now
#522 [03:33] <DiskDaemon> I'm looking at the user manual for your router, and it's incredibly useless. I hope that I can find a more comprehensive manual
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#524 [03:35] <TwistedDevotion> yeah pretty much, I'm not sure if you have a different one but mine just goes over the setup and minor troubleshooting
#525 [03:35] <TwistedDevotion> nothing of this caliber
#526 [03:35] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion: What happens when you ping the router from your local computer?
#527 [03:36] <TwistedDevotion> 4 recieved 0 lost...
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#529 [03:36] <TwistedDevotion> everything is okay there
#530 [03:37] <DiskDaemon> Does the belkin have a firewall log that you can check?
#531 [03:38] <TwistedDevotion> yeah, I can either enable or disable it
#532 [03:38] <DiskDaemon> By that, I'm referring to the message in the "Firewall Logs" section of that port forward checker program
#533 [03:38] <DiskDaemon> No, don't enable it or disable it. I'm asking about logs.
#534 [03:38] <mattym> I dont think the belkins keep a log
#535 [03:39] <TwistedDevotion> they don't
#536 [03:39] <DiskDaemon> Here's a belkin that keeps firewall logs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11941266
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#538 [03:39] <mattym> TwistedDevotion Look under the thing marked Security Log
#539 [03:40] <mattym> it would be nice if they put it in the Firewall section, but no
#540 [03:40] <TwistedDevotion> okay I'm there...
#541 [03:40] * mattym tags DiskDaemon back in
#541 [03:41] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion: Please read the bottom left part of the screenshot that you provided before - at http://i.imgur.com/6R89967.png
#542 [03:41] * DiskDaemon passes the buck over to user-provided information
#542 [03:42] <TwistedDevotion> Oh don't worry I added the program and the IP to the exceptions in firewall
#543 [03:42] <DiskDaemon> TwistedDevotion: Let me make this nice and clear.
#544 [03:42] <TwistedDevotion> well the program at least, I've been trying to find a way to add the IP to the exceptions
#545 [03:42] <DiskDaemon> Does the router log show ANYTHING! About the IP from 63.168.21.164
#546 [03:43] * DiskDaemon tags mattym back in - my meds aren't helping
#546 [03:44] <TwistedDevotion> no.....Cripes I must have done it wrong =_=
#547 [03:44] <mattym> TwistedDevotion does your router have an option for WAN Ping Blocking in the list?
#548 [03:44] <mattym> if so go to it an make sure its unchecked
#549 [03:45] <TwistedDevotion> alright it's unchecked
#550 [03:45] <mattym> changes applied?
#551 [03:45] <TwistedDevotion> yeah
#552 [03:45] <mattym> ok i can ping you now, run that tool again
#553 [03:45] <TwistedDevotion> this problem is getting a lot bigger than I realized due to my own inexperience with network protocols
#554 [03:46] <mattym> run the port checking program again now
#555 [03:46] <TwistedDevotion> okay thats one problem solved, it can ping me...
#556 [03:47] <mattym> ok can you go to the Virtual Servers page and screenshot it for me
#557 [03:47] <TwistedDevotion> yeah sure
#558 [03:47] <DiskDaemon> One you do successfully have people able to connect through to the minecraft server, you can set that ping blocking back to what it was again. It's good to block that, but not when testing (such as this port forwarding) occurs
#559 [03:49] <TwistedDevotion> http://imgur.com/Is72s3V heres the screen shot
#560 [03:49] <mattym> TwistedDevotion check the enable box, and apply settings
#561 [03:49] * TwistedDevotion looks again and facepalms
#561 [03:49] <TwistedDevotion> oh lord
#562 [03:49] <TwistedDevotion> forgive me it's late
#563 [03:50] <DiskDaemon> Such is why another pair of eyes can be invaluable
#564 [03:50] <mattym> after you apply run the server
#565 [03:50] <TwistedDevotion> alright
#566 [03:50] <TwistedDevotion> well the port can be seen which is good
#567 [03:51] <TwistedDevotion> the servers up and running
#568 [03:51] <mattym> yes it is
#569 [03:51] <DiskDaemon> excellent - the minecraft server should succeed with internet communications too now
#570 [03:52] <mattym> server running yet?
#571 [03:52] <TwistedDevotion> yes
#572 [03:52] <mattym> !check 50.132.2.124
#573 [03:52] <TwistedDevotion> son of a ****
#574 [03:53] <mattym> well if the port is fine
#575 [03:53] <mattym> then there may just still be a firewall issue on the computer itself
#576 [03:53] <DiskDaemon> This check says that the port still looks closed http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
#577 [03:54] <DiskDaemon> If it's the local firewall getting in the way, then temporarily dropping the firewall for the purpose of testing, will help to confirm if the firewall is getting in the way
#578 [03:54] <TwistedDevotion> so does the one I'm using....it was opened like two seconds ago
#579 [03:54] <DiskDaemon> If it is - there are ways to deal with that while still leaving it active
#580 [03:55] <TwistedDevotion> alright the firewalls off lets try this again...
#581 [03:55] <TwistedDevotion> it's the firewall
#582 [03:55] <DiskDaemon> The 25565 port will only be shown as being open, if something is on the other end that can respond to it, such as a the minecraft server, or that port checker program
#583 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> Okay, remove Java (and Javaw too) entries from the firewall, and when starting the Minecraft server allow any changes your computer wants to make
#584 [03:56] <TwistedDevotion> it's open and the port check program can access it
#585 [03:56] <TwistedDevotion> alright
#586 [03:58] <mattym> remove all the Java's i know you said you had multiple
#587 [03:59] <TwistedDevotion> yeah I just removed those
#588 [04:02] <DiskDaemon> Hey, port 25565 is now open on your machine - congrats
#589 [04:02] <DiskDaemon> !check 50.132.2.124
#590 [04:02] * TwistedDevotion sighs in relief
#590 [04:02] <TwistedDevotion> shuold I turn the firewall back on or just leave it off
#591 [04:03] <mattym> turn the minecraft server off
#592 [04:03] <DiskDaemon> Close the minecraft server. Turn on the firewall, then start the server. You should be asked to accept updates to your firewall
#593 [04:03] <mattym> what he said ^
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#595 [04:05] <TwistedDevotion> hmm I must not have deleted the right java exceptions the server just starts
#596 [04:05] <TwistedDevotion> The ports are still open thuogh so nothing has changed there
#597 [04:06] <mattym> !check 50.132.2.124
#598 [04:06] <DiskDaemon> good one, so the firewall is active, and the minecraft server continues to work?
#599 [04:07] <TwistedDevotion> I turned it back off for the time being, it seems the exception is still in there hang on I'll look through it
#600 [04:09] <TwistedDevotion> alright I got it...
#601 [04:09] <TwistedDevotion> the firewalls on the the ports are open
#602 [04:09] <mattym> server running
#603 [04:09] <mattym> ?
#604 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> looking good
#605 [04:09] <TwistedDevotion> yeah go for it
#606 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> !check 50.132.2.124
#607 [04:10] <mattym> Well there you go
#608 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> hunh?
#609 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> !check 50.132.2.124
#610 [04:10] <mattym> yeah, i used another checker, it seems to be working
#611 [04:10] <TwistedDevotion> on my end too
#612 [04:11] <mattym> ok and now with that static ip set, a reboot "shouldnt" mess with it
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#614 [04:11] <DiskDaemon> That port forward checker program has been the last piece to easily solve this puzzle. Now that we can check if port forwarding is successful without involving minecraft, it's now easier to find and fix the problem that's occurring
#615 [04:11] <iphobic> does anyone know of a way to trap an Ender Dragon in glass?
#616 [04:12] <TwistedDevotion> alright...Thanks for your help everyone :-\ and for bearing with this guys inexperience with networking protocols
#617 [04:12] <DiskDaemon> iphobic: No, the dragon goes through all blocks, and destroys all blocks that aren't found in the End
#618 [04:12] <mattym> iphobic afaik they will just break it
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#620 [04:12] <mattym> i suppose you could make an Obsidian cage with some glass
#621 [04:12] <mattym> but that would take some trial and error
#622 [04:13] <TwistedDevotion> I'm going to go to bed...thanks again guys
#623 [04:13] <iphobic> yeah, i tried all glass already and found out the hard way, heh
#624 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> Wouldn't the dragon just fly through the obsidian?
#625 [04:13] <mattym> i thought obsid was one of the things taht stopped it
#626 [04:13] <mattym> or does it just "phase" through w/o destroying it
#627 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> Sounds like some research is required
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#629 [04:14] <mattym> all of which is attributed to lazy coding
#630 [04:14] <iphobic> i made a sky zoo
#631 [04:15] <iphobic> i have two ghasts in there right now
#632 [04:15] <iphobic> heh
#633 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> Yeah, the dragon just phases through obsidian - otherwise those towers in the End would be in great danger
#634 [04:16] <iphobic> boo
#635 [04:16] <iphobic> i wanted to put it in my zoo
#636 [04:16] <iphobic> heh
#637 [04:16] <mattym> The Ender Dragon will NOT be contained!
#638 [04:16] <iphobic> :P
#639 [04:17] <iphobic> same with their humanly counterparts
#640 [04:17] <mattym> Give them 1 block surrounded with water
#641 [04:18] <mattym> and shade from above
#642 [04:18] <iphobic> hah!
#643 [04:18] <iphobic> wait
#644 [04:18] <iphobic> what if i did glass jail, with a block of water on the inside all around
#645 [04:18] <iphobic> that work?
#646 [04:18] <iphobic> like, glass, water, glass
#647 [04:18] <mattym> i think
#648 [04:18] <iphobic> i'll have to try it
#649 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> The endermen can still teleport to areas with enough height for them, so you would need to fill in all 3-high areas within a certain radius around them
#650 [04:19] <mattym> as long as its covered above so the light doesnt ignite them
#651 [04:20] <iphobic> ignite them?
#652 [04:20] <mattym> they burn in daylight dont they?
#653 [04:20] <iphobic> they do?
#654 [04:20] <iphobic> no
#655 [04:20] <iphobic> i've spawned some outside in the day
#656 [04:20] <mattym> i believe they do, you just never see them
#657 [04:20] <iphobic> they're just moseying along
#658 [04:20] <mattym> hmmm
#659 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> Endermen are pacified by light, like spiders, but not killed
#660 [04:21] <mattym> ok
#661 [04:21] <mattym> but if you hit them once in daylight, dont they usually teleport away for good
#662 [04:22] <DiskDaemon> "Hitting creatures in our zoo will not be tolerated"
#663 [04:22] <iphobic> should come see my SkyZoo
#664 [04:22] <iphobic> heh
#665 [04:22] <iphobic> you know what's fun? spawning endermen in the middle of a lake
#666 [04:22] <iphobic> lolol
#667 [04:22] <iphobic> :P
#668 [04:22] <mattym> watch them flip the hell out
#669 [04:22] <iphobic> yep
#670 [04:23] <mattym> shoot one with a fire arrow
#671 [04:23] <mattym> thats fun too
#672 [04:23] <iphobic> haha
#673 [04:23] <mattym> it keeps counting as dmg so they just port around on fire
#674 [04:24] <iphobic> haha
#675 [04:25] <iphobic> i'm going to make a viewing cage inside
#676 [04:25] <iphobic> "get a little closer" warp
#677 [04:25] <iphobic> and it'll be a floating glass cage inside
#678 [04:25] <iphobic> heh
#679 [04:27] <iphobic> i suddenly had an unrelated urge to watch Die Hard 2
#680 [04:27] <mattym> wut
#681 [04:27] <DiskDaemon> Oh hell no - that's the worst of the 5
#682 [04:27] <iphobic> NO WAI
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#684 [04:27] <DiskDaemon> Oh yes way - /me hunts references
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#686 [04:28] <iphobic> eh, it has nostalgic value -- i grew up with it
#687 [04:28] <mattym> I think the first was the best for 1 simple reason Carl Winslow
#688 [04:28] <mattym> or whatever the hell his name was in Die Hard
#689 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> I grew up with it too sadly - here we are http://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/die-hard-five-review
#690 [04:33] <DiskDaemon> you got it right
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#692 [04:42] <Hinken727> Behov av hjälp att installera Mincraft på en MAC!
#693 [04:42] <iphobic> oh man, you guys gotta come see this
#694 [04:42] <mattym> Any chance you speak english?
#695 [04:43] <iphobic> please, it's so cool, heh
#696 [04:43] <mattym> iphobic where?
#697 [04:43] <iphobic> play.endermen.org
#698 [04:43] <mattym> vanilla?
#699 [04:43] <iphobic> just follow the signs
#700 [04:43] <iphobic> no, it's Bukkit
#701 [04:44] <mattym> cant resolve the hostname
#702 [04:44] <mattym> oops
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#704 [04:53] <SinZ> iphobic: no advertising..
#705 [04:54] <mattym> to who the 3 people actively watching
#706 [04:54] <mattym> he was showing me something he asked about
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#710 [04:57] <iphobic> heh
#711 [04:59] <iphobic> mattym: ookay, i need to re-add "do not beg for items" back to my /rules
#712 [04:59] <iphobic> i had removed that with something else
#713 [04:59] <iphobic> oops, heh
#714 [04:59] <mattym> lol, i hate it when people do that
#715 [05:00] <mattym> too many people jump into multiplayer w/o suffering through Single Player Survival
#716 [05:01] <iphobic> i confess i didn't
#717 [05:01] <iphobic> creative's more fun for me
#718 [05:01] <iphobic> i see the merit in survival
#719 [05:01] <iphobic> i just haven't done it yet
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#757 [06:29] <Demize_xx> Hi Could i please have some assistance?
#758 [06:32] <Demize_xx> Oh, Just read the topic..Well, here goes. Basically I've just purchased a minecraft subscription about 3 hours ago, After downloading i logged in, it began updating and then all of a sudden i got a black screen, I've done some research on how to fix this and it came back that i'd have to delete my bin folder etc, after doing this i then had another problem, now my screen pauses on "Done Loading" And that's as far as i get,
#759 [06:32] <Demize_xx> Also, My drivers are up to date...As far as i know.
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#763 [06:37] <Demize_xx> Anyone going to help, or is this channel with 100+ users dead to the world
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#765 [06:38] <worldmc> ?? Volunteer
#766 [06:38] <VoxelHead> volunteer: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time.
#767 [06:39] <Demize_xx> sigh....
#768 [06:40] <Demize_xx> Seriously, I paid 27 dollars for a screen saying done loading
#769 [06:40] <worldmc> I don't have real way to help atm. On my mobile
#770 [06:40] <worldmc> Disable your antivirus and try again
#771 [06:42] <worldmc> Demize_xx ^
#772 [06:42] <Demize_xx> Ok..
#773 [06:42] <Demize_xx> Ill try that
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#778 [06:54] <Demize_xx> nope
#779 [06:54] <Demize_xx> Safe to say, this thing is done
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#781 [06:54] <Demize_xx> I'm honestly sick of trying
#782 [06:54] <Demize_xx> I'm honestly sick of trying
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#786 [07:01] <Morrolan> ?? crashreport
#787 [07:01] <VoxelHead> crashreport: How to get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#788 [07:01] <Morrolan> Oh, yea, he left.
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#798 [07:36] <Williams67> My Login/Password does not get accepted all of a sudden despite regular play for nearly two years. Played as recently as Monday. First problems yesterday and continue today.
#799 [07:42] <Williams67> My Login/Password does not get accepted all of a sudden despite regular play for nearly two years. Played as recently as Monday. First problems yesterday and continue today. Any advice?
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#810 [08:14] <Williams67> My Login/Password does not get accepted all of a sudden despite regular play for nearly two years. Played as recently as Monday. First problems yesterday and continue today. Any advice
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#813 [08:22] <Tamsy> For whatever reason, I cannot connect to ANY server right now. All servers display as"can't reach server", and trying to log into them anyways causes the message "connection refused:connect" This only started happening today. My internet connection is fine, and I have tried to log in with a separate computer, only to have the same thing happen.
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#815 [08:24] <Tamsy> I have also tried restarting the computer, and reinstalling minecraft. Neither has had any effect.
#816 [08:27] <xales> Tamsy: Firewall on your computer? Are you sure the servers you are trying to connect to are running?
#817 [08:28] <Tamsy> Servers are running, far as I can tell. I have no control over the firewall on this computer, however it hasn't been an issue in the past.
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#822 [08:34] <xales> Is it a work/school computer?
#823 [08:34] <xales> Tamsy: ^
#824 [08:34] <Tamsy> school
#825 [08:34] <xales> That's more than likely the problem, then.
#826 [08:34] <xales> Ask the IT department/helldesk.
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#831 [08:42] <xales> :3
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#851 [09:37] <Guest44867> Hi. My mother ordered Minecraft for my child for Chirstmas.
#852 [09:38] <Guest44867> I am trying to figure out how to install it on my computer
#853 [09:38] <Guest44867> All she gave me was an Order #, and Order ID# and a Transaction ID. I cannot figure out how to use this information
#854 [09:38] <Guest44867> so that I can download minecraft onto my computer
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#860 [09:47] <Jane> My son wants minecraft, but I really don' tknow anything about it. Do you need to be connected the internet to play Minecraft?
#861 [09:50] <NinjaKirby> Jane: You can play in an "offline" mode, and just play solo. Multiplayer online isn't mandatory.
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#863 [09:52] <Jane> Thank you NinjaKirby. Is it better to play on a tablet or a PC, and is it compatible with all tablets?
#864 [09:54] <NinjaKirby> I guess some earlier Tablets might struggle to handle it well (Android v2.x era), and I personally find the controls a bit awkward. Computer version is better, and more full featured.
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#866 [09:54] <NinjaKirby> They are still adding content to the Tablet version which has been present in the Computer client for ages.
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#868 [09:57] <I3lackbook> Hello i got a problem with my minecraft grafic
#869 [09:57] <I3lackbook> it allways starts with a normal fps rate but then it gets worser and at the end iam playing with 10 fps or less
#870 [09:57] <I3lackbook> it allways starts with a normal fps rate but then it gets worser and at the end iam playing with 10 fps or less
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#874 [10:00] <Jane> Thanks for the info NinjaKirby!!
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#893 [11:00] <Garrity> Does anyone know a proper solution to the "Fatal error occured (4): / by zero" problem?
#894 [11:00] <xales> When do you get that error? Do you have any mods installed?
#895 [11:01] <Garrity> I get it the moment I try to login and update
#896 [11:01] <Garrity> If i don't update, it just gets stuck at 90%
#897 [11:01] <Garrity> and i'm not sure if I still have the mods let me check.
#898 [11:02] <clarjon1> What antivirus software do you use?
#899 [11:02] <Garrity> Microsoft security essentials
#900 [11:03] <Garrity> I have a CJB mod, but i'll delete itl.
#901 [11:03] <Garrity> *it.
#902 [11:03] <xales> ??> Garrity forceupdate
#903 [11:03] <VoxelHead> Garrity: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#904 [11:03] <VoxelHead> Garrity: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#906 [11:05] <Garrity> Did the force update, still the same error
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#908 [11:06] <xales> Go to your control panel and uninstall everything Java, then go to http://java.com and install the latest version
#909 [11:06] <PEdro> ok
#910 [11:06] <PEdro> thanks
#911 [11:06] <PEdro> i will try that
#912 [11:07] <Garrity> Lol PEdro, that was meant for me I believe.
#913 [11:07] <Garrity> will do it now xales
#914 [11:08] <PEdro> lol yes I wonder how you know my problem is java related
#915 [11:08] <PEdro> when I try to open Minecraft it logs in but then just desapear
#916 [11:09] <PEdro> and I get a error .txt file everytime
#917 [11:09] <xales> PEdro: Has Minecraft worked before?
#918 [11:09] <PEdro> yes
#919 [11:09] <xales> Did you try to install a mod/texturepack?
#920 [11:09] <PEdro> I did and update of the game
#921 [11:10] <PEdro> but not that specific install
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#924 [11:10] <xales> Try this first:
#925 [11:10] <xales> ??> PEdro forceupdate
#926 [11:10] <VoxelHead> PEdro: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#927 [11:10] <VoxelHead> PEdro: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#929 [11:11] <PEdro> already did that too
#930 [11:11] <PEdro> no good
#931 [11:11] <xales> Open the error .txt file
#932 [11:12] <xales> Then go to http://pastebin.com/ and copy the entire contents of the file to PasteBin
#933 [11:12] <xales> Then click Submit and share the link it sends you to with us
#934 [11:13] <PEdro> ok working on it
#935 [11:15] <PEdro> http://pastebin.com/1ZYPaLYA
#936 [11:16] <PEdro> here you go
#937 [11:17] <xales> ??> PEdro win/gpu/intel
#938 [11:17] <VoxelHead> PEdro: (win/gpu/intel) Some of the newer Intel graphics chipsets on Windows need Java to be limited to 800MB to avoid OpenGL errors. Try using this tool to launch Minecraft:
#939 [11:17] <VoxelHead> PEdro: (win/gpu/intel) http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Intel-MC.bat
#940 [11:17] <xales> er
#941 [11:17] <xales> not that
#942 [11:17] <xales> ??> PEdro gpu/intel
#943 [11:17] <VoxelHead> PEdro: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#944 [11:17] <Calinou> most intel IGPs won't run the game nicely, keep in mind
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#946 [11:18] <Calinou> the HD4000 can do that fairly well but not on max settings
#947 [11:20] <PEdro> ok so I need to dl the HD4000
#948 [11:20] <PEdro> from one of those webpages
#949 [11:20] <PEdro> and give it a try
#950 [11:20] <PEdro> and give it a try
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#952 [11:21] <xales> PEdro: Go here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com
#953 [11:21] <xales> and update your graphics card driver
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#956 [11:22] <Calinou> the "HD4000" is the IGP you find on most i3/i5/i7s, by the way.
#957 [11:22] <Calinou> the ivy bridge ones.
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#963 [11:28] <Lutzee> lol not most, only the 3225, 3570k, 3770, 3770k 3770S 3770T for desktop, thats 6/34 most are HD2500
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#968 [11:30] <professorfinsk> is majon and minecraft acont the same ?
#969 [11:31] <xales> No.
#970 [11:31] <xales> A Mojang account and a Minecraft account are two different things.
#971 [11:31] <xales> If you've purchased Minecraft recently, then you have a Mojang Account.
#972 [11:31] <professorfinsk> okay but when i log in people cant se my skin ?
#973 [11:31] <xales> If you purchased Minecraft a long time ago, and have not migrated it, then you have a Minecraft Account.
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#975 [11:32] <xales> Did you change your skin on minecraft.net?
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#977 [11:32] <professorfinsk> yes
#978 [11:32] <xales> Did you close Minecraft completely, and reopen it?
#979 [11:32] <professorfinsk> yes
#980 [11:32] <Garrity> how do I see the mincraft files?
#981 [11:32] <xales> Are you playing on a server?
#982 [11:32] <xales> Garrity: What OS?
#983 [11:32] <Garrity> %app%data is it?
#984 [11:32] <Garrity> XP
#985 [11:32] <xales> ??> Garrity win/.minecraft
#986 [11:32] <VoxelHead> Garrity: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#987 [11:34] <Calinou> Lutzee: on laptops there are more HD4000s.
#988 [11:34] <Calinou> and who has a desktop today ;-;
#989 [11:34] <Lutzee> True
#990 [11:34] <Lutzee> <<
#991 [11:34] <Calinou> me too :p
#992 [11:34] <xales> Lutzee: A simple /me suffices ;)
#993 [11:34] * xales
#993 [11:34] <professorfinsk> i cant play an with my frinds
#994 [11:35] <professorfinsk> lan '
#995 [11:35] <Lutzee> xales: more typing :<
#996 [11:35] <xales> professorfinsk: What?
#997 [11:35] <professorfinsk> i cant play lan with my frinds
#998 [11:35] <xales> Are you physically in the same location as them?
#999 [11:35] <professorfinsk> yes
#1000 [11:36] <xales> Are you both connected to the Internet the same way (same wireless network, a cable going to the same device...)?
#1001 [11:36] <professorfinsk> yes
#1002 [11:36] <xales> Did one of you click "Open to LAN"?
#1003 [11:36] <professorfinsk> yes
#1004 [11:37] <xales> Are ALL firewalls on both computers COMPLETELY disabled?
#1005 [11:37] <professorfinsk> yes
#1006 [11:37] <xales> Then you would be able to see the other person's LAN game on the servers list.
#1007 [11:37] <xales> Go back and check all of those things are true.
#1008 [11:38] <professorfinsk> i dont know at is wrong with my minecraft hen
#1009 [11:38] <professorfinsk> then
#1010 [11:38] <xales> It's probably a firewall.
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#1015 [11:45] <James> Hello
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#1018 [11:45] <xales> Hi,
#1019 [11:47] <Guest50762> When i click confirm to buy minecraft i get a message saying, thank you for your interest in our site but we are unable to accept your registration at this time... and won't let me purchase minecraft? help
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#1021 [11:47] <xales> What website tells you that?
#1022 [11:48] <Guest50762> mojang?
#1023 [11:48] <Guest50762> that's where you get minecraft from
#1024 [11:48] <xales> Try registering again.
#1025 [11:49] <xales> This is where you should be: https://account.mojang.com/register
#1026 [11:49] <Guest50762> registering a whole new account again?
#1027 [11:49] <xales> Did you already register?
#1028 [11:50] <Guest50762> yeah i already have registered
#1029 [11:50] <xales> Can you log in on http://account.mojang.com/ ?
#1030 [11:50] <Guest50762> but when i put in my details then click comfirm purchase that message comes up
#1031 [11:50] <Guest50762> yeah
#1032 [11:50] <xales> Try paying with PayPal.
#1033 [11:50] <Guest50762> is it okay with paypal if i'm using a visa card
#1034 [11:50] <clarjon1> Yup
#1035 [11:51] <xales> As long as it's not a "prepaid" or "gift" card
#1036 [11:51] <Guest50762> so paypal will work even though my card is visa? yeah
#1037 [11:52] <xales> Yes, it will.
#1038 [11:52] <xales> You don't even need an account on PayPal.
#1039 [11:52] <xales> Just choose it as a payment option, if it asks select "Pay without account" and just put your card info in.
#1040 [11:52] <Guest50762> okay i'll try that
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#1042 [11:55] <Guest50762> Thank you very much for your help! it work!! thanks bye
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#1048 [12:00] <unlou812> why cant i buy minecraft with my prepaid visa
#1049 [12:00] <Calinou> because of fraud prevention
#1050 [12:00] <xales> Calinou: because of the PATRIOT act actually
#1051 [12:00] <xales> it's literally against the law for the bank to allow it
#1052 [12:01] <xales> unlou812: The only way to buy Minecraft with a prepaid card is to get the retail, physical gift-card with a code on it
#1053 [12:01] <Calinou> ...at walmarts
#1054 [12:01] <unlou812> then how do i get the game
#1055 [12:01] <unlou812> i have 1 from walgreens
#1056 [12:02] <xales> No
#1057 [12:02] <xales> There is a card that they sell there, that is specifically for Minecraft
#1058 [12:02] <xales> It has the Minecraft logo on it, and a code that activates it
#1059 [12:03] <unlou812> then what kind of card do i need to ask for
#1060 [12:03] <xales> As I said, a Minecraft card
#1061 [12:03] <unlou812> ok i will go look
#1062 [12:03] <xales> See here: https://minecraft.net/prepaid
#1063 [12:03] <xales> Walgreens does not have it
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#1066 [12:10] <Garrity> I reinstalled Java and for some reason I'm still getting the "Fatal error occured (4): / by zero" error.
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#1068 [12:11] <xales> One sec
#1069 [12:11] <xales> What security/firewall/antivirus software are you running on your computer (list all if more than one)
#1070 [12:12] <Garrity> just microsoft security essentials
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#1072 [12:13] <xales> Are you sure?
#1073 [12:13] <xales> Also, try this:
#1074 [12:14] <xales> ??> Garrity win/reinst
#1075 [12:14] <VoxelHead> Garrity: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1076 [12:14] <VoxelHead> Garrity: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1077 [12:16] <Garrity> there is only four files in there
#1078 [12:16] <Garrity> none of which says saves
#1079 [12:20] <xales> Delete all of the files then
#1080 [12:21] <Garrity> tried it, still the same error :/
#1081 [12:21] <xales> Do you have any other antivirus software (Norton, McAfee, etc?
#1082 [12:21] <Garrity> Nope none.
#1083 [12:22] <xales> What version of Windows are you using, again?
#1084 [12:22] <Garrity> Windows XP Pro
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#1086 [12:22] <xales> Do you have all of the latest updates from Windows Update applied?
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#1088 [12:24] <Garrity> Yes I do.
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#1090 [12:25] <xales> Hm.
#1091 [12:26] <xales> Try making a new user account and playing it under that.
#1092 [12:26] <xales> (Not a Minecraft account, a user account on your computer)
#1093 [12:26] <Garrity> Alright I'll try it.
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#1096 [12:32] <Garrity> Tried it, still the same error.
#1097 [12:36] <Garrity> anything else I can do? that's just stupid why doesn't it work for no reason -_-
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#1099 [12:37] <xales> If you're sure there isn't any other antivirus software, then there's something seriously wrong with your computer.
#1100 [12:38] <Monster_Feet> my minecraft account crashed are you able to help?
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#1102 [12:38] <xales> it would be very difficult/time consuming to diagnose remotely, so you should probably contact a computer professional
#1103 [12:38] <xales> Monster_Feet: Open it again and keep playing?\
#1104 [12:38] <Monster_Feet> i know done that a few times but keeps happening at regular intervals
#1105 [12:38] <Monster_Feet> xales^
#1106 [12:39] <xales> Update your graphics card driver
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#1108 [12:39] <Monster_Feet> xales: how do i do that
#1109 [12:39] <xales> Do you know what graphics card you have?
#1110 [12:40] <Monster_Feet> no sorry ill find out one sec
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#1115 [12:56] <pez> helo i need help my texture pack is slowing down my minecraft so when i go past the start menu it freezis and nums my clicker
#1116 [12:56] <xales> Delete the texture pack, then
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#1120 [12:57] <pez> i cant when i try to my screen freezis
#1121 [12:57] <xales> Download and run this: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/DelTexturePacks.bat
#1122 [12:58] <pez> ok
#1123 [12:59] <pez> im testing to see
#1124 [12:59] <pez> if its ok
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#1126 [13:02] <pez> know its saying login failed
#1127 [13:02] <pez> what do i do
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#1129 [13:03] <xales> Your email/username or password is incorrect.
#1130 [13:03] <pez> i opened it up and i typed in my password and user
#1131 [13:03] <pez> i did it twice
#1132 [13:03] <pez> three times nothing
#1133 [13:03] <xales> "Login Failed" means your username or password is incorrect
#1134 [13:03] <xales> you might need to use your email address as your username
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#1136 [13:04] <pez> did that too
#1137 [13:04] <pez> still nothing
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#1139 [13:04] <xales> One of them is wrong.
#1140 [13:04] <pez> ill try again
#1141 [13:04] <unlou812> i just bought the card to get the game and it said it took now how do i get it to play
#1142 [13:05] <xales> unlou812: Download Minecraft, open it, and log in
#1143 [13:05] <pez> tried it again still nothing
#1144 [13:05] <xales> pez: If it says "Login Failed" it means "your username/email or password is wrong"
#1145 [13:06] <xales> There is nothing else it could mean, unless your antivirus/firewall is blocking Minecraft in a strange way.
#1146 [13:06] <pez> and i testid it on the minecraft website still didnt work
#1147 [13:06] <xales> Then, once again, YOUR PASSWORD IS WRONG
#1148 [13:06] <xales> Reset it.
#1149 [13:06] <pez> ok
#1150 [13:06] <unlou812> i have done all that ive changed paaswords you name it this is nuts
#1151 [13:06] <xales> unlou812: I'm not talking to you.
#1152 [13:06] <xales> unlou812: What are you trying to do?
#1153 [13:07] <pez> same
#1154 [13:07] <pez> im testing the new password
#1155 [13:07] <pez> and once again NOTHING
#1156 [13:07] <xales> pez: If you are using your EMAIL ADDRESS and the CORRECT PASSWORD then you would be able to log in.
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#1158 [13:08] <pez> i am i promise
#1159 [13:08] <pez> hand on heart
#1160 [13:08] <xales> Then it would work.
#1161 [13:08] <pez> it just doesnt work
#1162 [13:08] <xales> Then keep trying to make it work?
#1163 [13:08] <xales> What do you want me to do, magically fix it?
#1164 [13:08] <xales> It's a problem on your end.
#1165 [13:08] <pez> i thought your meant to help
#1166 [13:09] <xales> I am helping.
#1167 [13:09] <xales> The problem is that your password is wrong.
#1168 [13:09] <xales> If you can't figure out how to set a working password and sign in with it, how is that something I can do for you, or even my problem?
#1169 [13:09] <pez> your just telling me its wrong when it isnt
#1170 [13:09] <pez> its wright
#1171 [13:09] <xales> Are you repeatedly trying to set the right password?
#1172 [13:09] <xales> Try something very simple as the password.
#1173 [13:10] <xales> For example: "imaplonker"
#1174 [13:10] <pez> not
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#1176 [13:10] <xales> Are you able to sign in on https://account.mojang.com/ ?
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#1178 [13:10] <pez> i did as my last one dragon no caps or enything
#1179 [13:10] <pez> thats easy
#1180 [13:10] <xales> Sign in there.
#1181 [13:11] <xales> Under "My Games" does it say Minecraft?
#1182 [13:11] <pez> ;(
#1183 [13:11] <xales> Yes or no?
#1184 [13:11] <pez> one sec
#1185 [13:11] <pez> hang on
#1186 [13:11] <pez> yes it does
#1187 [13:11] <xales> What does it say under "profile name"?
#1188 [13:12] <pez> whats that where do i find it
#1189 [13:12] <xales> It's under "My Games"
#1190 [13:12] <xales> ._.
#1191 [13:12] <pez> oh soz
#1192 [13:13] <pez> um i cant find games
#1193 [13:13] <pez> i dont think i have it
#1194 [13:15] <xales> Go here: https://account.mojang.com/me
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#1197 [13:17] <newbenne> My minecraft won't download, the bottom bar that's normaly dirt graphic is just black, plz help!
#1198 [13:17] <xales> Do you have any antivirus/firewall software installed?
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#1200 [13:18] <pez> xales i cant find my profile
#1201 [13:18] <pez> im dum
#1202 [13:18] <pez> soz
#1203 [13:18] <xales> pez: Did you purchase Minecraft?
#1204 [13:18] <pez> yes of course
#1205 [13:18] <xales> What do you see when you go to this page: https://account.mojang.com/me
#1206 [13:19] <pez> my games and my gift codes
#1207 [13:19] <pez> thats it
#1208 [13:20] <xales> Does it say Minecraft under "My Games"?
#1209 [13:20] <pez> it says :Did you know that if you've already bought Minecraft you can import your existing profile into this account? If you do, you should start using your Mojang account e-mail as username when logging in.
#1210 [13:21] <newbenne> Got Microsoft endpoint....
#1211 [13:21] <xales> Look under the black words "MY GAMES"
#1212 [13:21] <xales> newbenne: Uninstall that, it's very old and no longer current.
#1213 [13:21] <xales> pez: Under "My Games" does it have the Minecraft block, and next to it, say "Minecraft"?
#1214 [13:21] <newbenne> well my stupid school forces me to
#1215 [13:21] <pez> no
#1216 [13:21] <newbenne> school comp
#1217 [13:21] <xales> newbenne: If you're trying to play on a school computer, it is probably blocked.
#1218 [13:21] <newbenne> haha nope
#1219 [13:21] <newbenne> private
#1220 [13:21] <xales> Then uninstall it?
#1221 [13:22] <newbenne> no then there won't be any waranty on it
#1222 [13:22] <newbenne> stupid swedish school
#1223 [13:22] <newbenne> :)
#1224 [13:22] <xales> That won't remove a warranty.
#1225 [13:22] <pez> <xales> i cant find the block
#1226 [13:22] <Calinou> tell notch to come to your school so that you're allowed to play it.
#1227 [13:22] <newbenne> my school tells me that if we remove it they don't pay for anything
#1228 [13:23] <xales> newbenne: You can always put it back?
#1229 [13:23] <xales> pez: If, underneath "My Games" it doesn't list "Minecraft" with your profile name and download links, then you haven't purchased it on that accoun.
#1230 [13:23] <newbenne> i don't think this is the problem it have always worked before
#1231 [13:23] <xales> ??> newbenne win/reinst
#1232 [13:23] <VoxelHead> newbenne: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1233 [13:23] <VoxelHead> newbenne: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1234 [13:24] <newbenne> done that
#1235 [13:24] <newbenne> removed and reinstalled 1000times now
#1236 [13:24] <pez> WHAT i have i dont get it if got the program and i bought it s why havnt i got the block
#1237 [13:24] <xales> Did you do it via what method?
#1238 [13:24] <xales> pez: Perhaps you bought it on a different account?
#1239 [13:24] <newbenne> yes
#1240 [13:24] <newbenne> .minecraft is gone
#1241 [13:24] <xales> pez: Or have not migrated your account?
#1242 [13:24] <xales> newbenne: Then it would download a new copy, unless it was being blocked.
#1243 [13:25] <pez> ok ill go on my other account
#1244 [13:25] <pez> one sec
#1245 [13:25] <newbenne> alll i know is that it says can't connect and won't download
#1246 [13:25] <xales> newbenne: Then, once again, something is blocking it.
#1247 [13:25] <xales> Probably EndPoint.
#1248 [13:25] <xales> Which is very old.
#1249 [13:25] <newbenne> my school lives in the 1990
#1250 [13:25] <pez> still nothing what shall i do
#1251 [13:26] <pez> no block
#1252 [13:26] <xales> newbenne: If you won't remove it, then we can't help you.
#1253 [13:26] <newbenne> it wasen't blocked before that's why i get confuesed
#1254 [13:26] <xales> pez: How did you purchase it?
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#1256 [13:26] <pez> im confused
#1257 [13:26] <xales> newbenne: You should ask your school's IT department for help.
#1258 [13:26] <xales> pez: How did you purchase it?\
#1259 [13:26] <mattym> pez did you ever get the confirmation email when you purchased it?
#1260 [13:26] <newbenne> thx xales i'll be back thx alot
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#1262 [13:27] <pez> yes and i did it with card not gift card
#1263 [13:28] <pez> i bought it didnt reedeme gift code
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#1265 [13:30] <pez> should i get a refund or something
#1266 [13:30] <xales> pez: Did you buy a gift code?
#1267 [13:30] <pez> no
#1268 [13:30] <xales> Is it your card, or a friend's/parent's?
#1269 [13:31] <pez> my parent
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#1271 [13:31] <pez> it was my mums card
#1272 [13:31] <xales> Ask them to check their statement to make sure the transaction posted, and wasn't reversed.
#1273 [13:32] <unlou812> i purchased the game now how do i get it started for my son
#1274 [13:32] <xales> unlou812: Download it from http://minecraft.net/download
#1275 [13:32] <xales> Then run it, log in with email/password, and play
#1276 [13:33] <pez> um how (mm)
#1277 [13:33] <xales> pez; Ask them to check their statement to make sure the transaction posted, and wasn't reversed.
#1278 [13:33] <pez> how do i do that
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#1280 [13:34] <pez> send an email
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#1282 [13:34] <pez> cls
#1283 [13:34] <pez> oops
#1284 [13:35] <pez> xales do i send an email
#1285 [13:35] <pez> or what
#1286 [13:35] <xales> pez: No, *ask your parent*
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#1288 [13:36] <pez> they said i had to do it myself busy
#1289 [13:37] <xales> Unless you know how to access their online banking/bank statements, you won't be able to do it.
#1290 [13:37] <newbenne> was here minutes ago, looked in my anti virus and my firewall, nothing is blocking either minecraft or java, i got the latest java and still it won't work
#1291 [13:37] <xales> newbenne: Sometimes a broken component of very old/improperly written anvitirus software will block it from working.
#1292 [13:37] <xales> This is known to be a problem.
#1293 [13:37] <xales> As I've said, remove EndPoint.
#1294 [13:37] <xales> Otherwise we cannot help you.
#1295 [13:37] <pez> oh get it eny other way or ill wait
#1296 [13:38] <xales> pez: You'll have to wait for them to help you.
#1297 [13:38] <pez> ok
#1298 [13:38] <xales> There's still the possibility that you are using the wrong account, or haven't migrated your account.
#1299 [13:38] <pez> oh my mums doing it hang on
#1300 [13:38] <xales> See this, as well: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
#1301 [13:39] <pez> my mum said the payment went through
#1302 [13:39] <pez> and it should work
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#1304 [13:42] <Wushismow> hello
#1305 [13:42] <Wushismow> I like to change the profile name on minecraft. Can me help somone ?
#1306 [13:42] <mattym> Wushismow That is at this time not possible
#1307 [13:43] <Wushismow> Thanks mattym. And when i rebuy a other account ?
#1308 [13:43] <Calinou> yes you can
#1309 [13:43] <Calinou> of course ;)
#1310 [13:44] <benhunter09> I need to help more ::
#1311 [13:44] <mattym> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/928638 <- See about changing usernames. But yes if you buy another account then you can name it w/e you want
#1312 [13:44] <benhunter09> :/*
#1313 [13:44] <xales> benhunter09: wat
#1314 [13:44] <Wushismow> Thanks a lot for the help.
#1315 [13:44] <xales> pez: You're using the wrong account or the transaction was refunded
#1316 [13:44] <mattym> Hes saying he needs to stop lurking and contribute
#1317 [13:44] <benhunter09> ^
#1318 [13:45] <pez> ok ill ckeck all my accounts
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#1320 [13:46] <newbenne> okey now help me, endpoint is gone firewall is down still a big NOPE! from minecraft
#1321 [13:46] <xales> newbenne: It's just stuck at 0%?
#1322 [13:47] <xales> Have you tried deleting the .minecraft folder?
#1323 [13:47] <newbenne> no i press logg in and it says that i i can't connect, the dirt graphic at the bottom is black
#1324 [13:47] <newbenne> yes 10000 tines
#1325 [13:47] <xales> It says "cannot connect to minecraft.net"?
#1326 [13:47] <newbenne> times*
#1327 [13:47] <newbenne> yes
#1328 [13:47] <xales> Try playing Minecraft in your browser, at http://minecraft.net/play
#1329 [13:49] <newbenne> works fine
#1330 [13:53] <xales> Try redownloading it then
#1331 [13:53] <xales> http://minecraft.net/download
#1332 [13:53] <newbenne> still just showing black, the bar in the bottom is a regular Java icon, dont know if that is anything special
#1333 [13:53] <newbenne> done that
#1334 [13:53] <xales> Go to the Control Panel and uninstall anything Java.
#1335 [13:53] <xales> Then reinstall the latest version of Java from http://java.com/
#1336 [13:53] <xales> If that doesn't work, then just play in your browser.
#1337 [13:54] <newbenne> can i still host a server on browser? if not bs
#1338 [13:54] <xales> Running a server and running the client have nothing to do with each other.
#1339 [13:54] <xales> The server software is completely separate, and also available at http://minecraft.net/download
#1340 [13:55] <newbenne> i know that thx, well thx i'll be back if this dosent work
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#1353 [14:28] <unlou812> ok what im i doing wrong it said my card went through i sign in but can only play demo
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#1361 [14:34] <blaze> i need help with minecraf i got a windows8 laptop and i cant get it to work
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#1365 [14:37] <mobsnightmare> Bought the game and can't break blocks and can't contact company for assistance or refund. Tried everything.
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#1367 [14:39] <mattym> mobsnightmare did you set yourself into Adventure Mode by any chance?
#1368 [14:39] <mobsnightmare> Nope, tryed that
#1369 [14:39] <mattym> have you tried deleting the Options file
#1370 [14:40] <mobsnightmare> How would i do that on a mac?
#1371 [14:40] <mattym> ok, one sec
#1372 [14:40] <mattym> ??> mobsnightmare mac/.minecraft
#1373 [14:40] <VoxelHead> mobsnightmare: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#1374 [14:40] <mattym> Go into that ^ folder
#1375 [14:40] <mattym> first close minecraft if its open
#1376 [14:41] <mattym> when in that folder delete the file called Options then try the game again
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#1378 [14:41] <mobsnightmare> ok. trying now
#1379 [14:42] <Sams> so just baught minecraft and can't download it.... tryed the antivirus thing still nada suggestions?
#1380 [14:42] <mattym> Sams can you try at this link http://minecraft.net/download
#1381 [14:43] <Sams> minecraft_exe cannot be downloaded
#1382 [14:43] <mattym> Windows or Mac Sams ?
#1383 [14:43] <Sams> windows 7
#1384 [14:44] <mattym> are you using Internet Explorer?
#1385 [14:44] <Sams> ya
#1386 [14:44] <mattym> can you try it with a different browser, like Chrome or Firefox
#1387 [14:45] <Sams> got it with chrome thanks
#1388 [14:45] <mattym> ok
#1389 [14:45] <mattym> Use Chrome for everything
#1390 [14:45] <mattym> IE causes nothing but trouble
#1391 [14:46] <Sams> i see that now ><
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#1393 [14:49] <mobsnightmare> it works. you guys are brilliant. Thanks so much...
#1394 [14:49] <mattym> np
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#1405 [15:21] <jaxapro2> my minecraft wont update it will go for a little bit then say error even if i force update
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#1407 [15:22] <jaxapro2> ??
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#1412 [15:27] <MSGHGB> account is blocked because of too many attempt failed. How to proceed?
#1413 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Wait, try again later
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#1422 [16:00] <mrwhisker23> my chat keeps saying 'cannot send chat message' and i haven't been muted on any of my servers, i've tried other servers and i can't send chat on those either. any help?
#1423 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Head to your options, then chat options, choose the show chat to be shown
#1424 [16:02] <mrwhisker23> wooow i'm a dork. thanks
#1425 [16:06] <pez> i need help
#1426 [16:07] <pez> my minecraft is dead
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#1428 [16:08] <pez> it died and we had a funaral it was sad
#1429 [16:11] <pez> help
#1430 [16:11] <pez> help me
#1431 [16:11] <pez> help
#1432 [16:11] <pez> help me
#1433 [16:12] <pez> please
#1434 [16:12] <pez> please
#1435 [16:12] <pez> im in need of help
#1436 [16:12] <pez> now
#1437 [16:12] <pez> please
#1438 [16:12] <pez> .
#1439 [16:12] <pez> asap
#1440 [16:12] <pez> asap
#1441 [16:12] <pez> asap
#1442 [16:13] <pez> as soon as possible
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#1444 [16:13] <pez> now
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#1449 [16:19] <pez> helo
#1450 [16:19] <pez> i need help
#1451 [16:20] <pez> not who needs help
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#1454 [16:21] <pez_> ok who needs j
#1455 [16:21] <pez_> help
#1456 [16:21] <dmerritt4> when making a server you need to enter the number you get a the default gate way which mine is 71.90.136.1 but i dont get it ,when i enter it in the url it just says could not go ,something like that, could some one help me?
#1457 [16:21] <pez_> yer sure
#1458 [16:21] <pez_> hmm
#1459 [16:22] <Morrolan> When connecting from outside, you need to use the IP you get from, for example, whatismyip.com
#1460 [16:22] <pez_> have you got the latest minecraft
#1461 [16:22] <Morrolan> WHen connecting from the same network, you need to use the IP listed under 'IPv4 address', NOT the one under 'default gateway'
#1462 [16:23] <dmerritt4> yes and i tryed ipv4 thing to
#1463 [16:23] <Morrolan> How did you get that IPv4 address?
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#1465 [16:24] <pez_> can someone help me when i go on minecraft i type my username and password it says wrong not downloaded
#1466 [16:24] <dmerritt4> i am watching a tatorial thing on youtube and got it that way it syaed to
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#1469 [16:25] <Morrolan> dmerritt4: Open a command prompt on the computer where the server is running, type in 'ipconfig', hit enter, then check the IPv4 address.
#1470 [16:25] <Morrolan> pez_: Try to enter the e-mail address instead of the username.
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#1473 [16:26] <SenriKyun> Hello, need help with logging into Minecraft here
#1474 [16:26] <Morrolan> More specifically, SenriKyun?
#1475 [16:27] <Morrolan> (Won't be around for long, but maybe it'll be a quick fix)
#1476 [16:27] <SenriKyun> Everytime i log in with the Mojang account, it basically says Login failed
#1477 [16:27] <Morrolan> Using the e-mail address as username?
#1478 [16:27] <SenriKyun> ya
#1479 [16:27] <Morrolan> Do those credentials work to sign in on www.minecraft.net?
#1480 [16:27] <SenriKyun> yep
#1481 [16:28] <dmerritt4> the iPv4 asress is 71.90.139.121
#1482 [16:28] <SenriKyun> ??
#1483 [16:28] <SenriKyun> what?
#1484 [16:29] <dmerritt4> opps d not s in adress :p
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#1486 [16:29] <SenriKyun> what is that?
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#1488 [16:30] <SenriKyun> what is CTCP VERSION or CTCP Time
#1489 [16:30] <Morrolan> CTCP requests, checked your system's time. Since the system date being off is a rather common issue, which'll lead to the login failing.
#1490 [16:30] <Morrolan> dmerritt4: Could you paste the whole output of 'ipconfig' on pastebin.com please?
#1491 [16:30] <SenriKyun> ohh ok time is 22:30 or 10:30 PM
#1492 [16:31] <pez_> did that
#1493 [16:31] <pez_> still nothing
#1494 [16:31] <SenriKyun> and what is the Version thing?
#1495 [16:31] <Morrolan> SenriKyun: Might be helpful to get a crash report. This wiki page contains some instructions:
#1496 [16:31] <Morrolan> ??> SenriKyun crashreport
#1497 [16:31] <VoxelHead> SenriKyun: (crashreport) How to get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1498 [16:31] <Morrolan> SenriKyun: CTCP VERSION queries your IRC client's version and, among other things, returns your operating system. If it had been Windows, I'd have asked if your Windows username contained a "!", since that messes up Java.
#1499 [16:32] <SenriKyun> lol, IRC Client Version 1.4.7
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#1501 [16:32] <SenriKyun> MAC OSX operating system
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#1503 [16:32] <Morrolan> Yep, your client answered when I asked it. ;D
#1504 [16:33] <Morrolan> SenriKyun: Either way, provide us with a crash report, please, maybe this'll help further. (See the wiki page which VoxelHead linked you to up there)
#1505 [16:33] <pez_> <Morrolan> i tried every thing it still doesnt work
#1506 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> pez_ - Did you purchase a minecraft account?
#1507 [16:33] <pez> yes
#1508 [16:33] <SenriKyun> Question
#1509 [16:34] <SenriKyun> the first method
#1510 [16:34] <dmerritt4> no i mean it wont let me type anything in the url that is not a correct URL but i suppos i will try cause i am out of optins
#1511 [16:34] <SenriKyun> the mcpatcher
#1512 [16:34] <SenriKyun> i dont have that
#1513 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> pez_ - Do you have minecraft listed under "My Games" when you logged into Mojang.com?
#1514 [16:34] <Morrolan> SenriKyun: Just try one of the other options, then. :)
#1515 [16:34] <pez_> yes
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#1517 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> pez_ - So when you attempt to log in, what error do you get?
#1518 [16:34] <pez_> ill check hang on
#1519 [16:34] <Morrolan> SenriKyun: I'd advise method #3, unless you're familiar with the console, then you can use method #2 directly.
#1520 [16:35] * Liam_ is now known as Guest45705
#1521 [16:35] <Guest45705> Hello i am liam123pwning, i attended minecon and i never recived a email for a cape code! please help
#1522 [16:35] <Morrolan> Actually, no, method #3 is horrible.
#1523 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Guest45705 - Email Mojang through:
#1524 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> ??> Guest45705 mojang/email
#1525 [16:35] <VoxelHead> Guest45705: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1526 [16:35] <dmerritt4> cant copy/ highlight in command prompt
#1527 [16:36] <Morrolan> dmerritt4: Right click -> select all -> hit enter, then it's in your clipboard.
#1528 [16:36] <Morrolan> After that, ctrl-v to paste.
#1529 [16:36] <pez_> it says login fail
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#1531 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Login Failed typically means your username/password is incorrect
#1532 [16:37] <Morrolan> SenriKyun: Grab the .jar launcher from here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar and save it somewhere where you can find it again.
#1533 [16:37] <Morrolan> SenriKyun: E.g. your desktop.
#1534 [16:37] <dmerritt4> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Donny>ipconfig Windows IP Configuration Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gha.chartermi.net Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::7c38:aaf8:9c82:93fa%10 IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 71.90.139.121 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
#1535 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to log into your mojang.com account, pez_?
#1536 [16:37] <pez_> yes
#1537 [16:37] <SenriKyun> ok
#1538 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> pez_ - Log into your mojang.com account, go to the settings tab, change your password, then try logging in again
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#1540 [16:37] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Uh, with an IPv4 address like dmerritt4 has, does that mean his computer is hooked up to the router directly?
#1541 [16:37] <pez_> ive done that
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#1543 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Typically means he's hooked up directly to his modem
#1544 [16:38] <pez_> changed three times
#1545 [16:38] <dmerritt4> ???
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#1547 [16:38] <sugoi> Morrolan: s/hooked up to/hooked up without/
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#1549 [16:38] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Great, haven't seen that one yet, thanks.
#1550 [16:38] <Morrolan> sugoi: Yea, just s/router/modem ;D
#1551 [16:38] <sugoi> :P
#1552 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> pez_ - Are you sure you have a Minecraft account listed under Mojang.com ?
#1553 [16:39] <pez_> yep
#1554 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> pez_ - It should look something like this: http://i.imgur.com/afqZugV.png
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#1556 [16:39] <Morrolan> SenriKyun: Once you saved it somewhere, create a new textfile in the same folder you put the .jar launcher, and add 'java -jar minecraft.jar' in there, save the file as 'run.command'
#1557 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> pez_ - Make sure you have minecraft there, and it lists a Minecraft Profile name as well
#1558 [16:39] <pez_> yep looks like that
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#1560 [16:40] <pez_> ive made sure its been paid for changed the password still nothing
#1561 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> I think they fixed it, but out of curiosity, does your password contain anything other than letters or numbers?
#1562 [16:41] <novo> ok everytime i go to log onto mc and when i click single player it crashes what do i need to do
#1563 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> novo - Pastebin the error report. Give us the URL so that we can read it
#1564 [16:41] <pez_> no
#1565 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> ??> novo pastebin
#1566 [16:41] <VoxelHead> novo: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1568 [16:41] <pez_> it just contains letters
#1569 [16:42] <Guest45705> when will i recieve a email about my cape problem?
#1570 [16:42] <dmerritt4> so... do you know whats up with this?
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#1572 [16:42] <SenriKyun_> sorry disconnected for a sec
#1573 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> pez_ - Then, if you're absolutely sure your mojang.com account has a paid for, minecraft profile, and your username and password are correct, then it most likely may be a security software that's blocking minecraft from communicating. Try disabling it to test
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#1575 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Guest45705 - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1576 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Looks like Mojang's backlog is about a month for support tickets, give or take
#1577 [16:43] <Rob_> hello, i can't seem to start my minecraft_server.jar...whenever I click it it spams me with some error that i'm not familiar with and it also says it "failed to save server.properties"
#1578 [16:43] <sugoi> dmerritt4: question
#1579 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Rob_ - Are you attempting to run a server?
#1580 [16:43] <Rob_> yes
#1581 [16:43] <sugoi> dmerritt4: you server is running locally that you are trying to connect to?
#1582 [16:43] <novo> http://pastebin.com/JiHr2pJg
#1583 [16:43] <Rob_> i've been running a server for 2 years now with hamatchi but right now it doesn't seem to work..
#1584 [16:43] <pez_> ive turned off all security off
#1585 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Rob_ - You don't run minecraft_server directly, you need to run it with arguments, typically through a terminal or command prompt
#1586 [16:44] <dmerritt4> uhhh......idk what do you mean by locally?
#1587 [16:44] <Guest45705> I Whant my cape!
#1588 [16:44] <sugoi> Rob_: also, not able to save? make sure the dir it is in is not readonly, or in a path you don't have write access to
#1589 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Guest45705 - All you can do is wait for mojang to get back to you
#1590 [16:44] <sugoi> dmerritt4: you are trying to connect to a server, correct?
#1591 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> novo - Looks like a mod issue. Try a force update through the launcher's options menu to get fresh, unmodded files. Then try minecraft again
#1592 [16:45] <novo> i did that didnt work
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#1594 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> novo - Then head to your .minecraft folder. Delete the bin and resource folders. Then run minecraft
#1595 [16:45] <dmerritt4> i dont even know any more lol,/ i was following these instructions ------>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqnzKJyzyXw
#1596 [16:45] <novo> kk will try
#1597 [16:46] <Rob_> yeah I do start my server with command prompt, i usually switched from .exe or .jar from time to time when there were updates and it always worked. And i'm the only user on my computer
#1598 [16:46] <sugoi> dmerritt4: "
#1599 [16:46] <sugoi> sorry
#1600 [16:46] <sugoi> dmerritt4: "How To Make A Minecraft Multiplayer Server..."
#1601 [16:47] <novo> ok that didn't work either
#1602 [16:47] <pez_> GreyVulpine ive turned all my sercurity off
#1603 [16:47] <Rob_> it spams me with "at go.a(sourcefile:38)" and "at go.b(sourcefile:48)"
#1604 [16:47] <Rob_> and never stops
#1605 [16:47] <sugoi> dmerritt4: are you running minecraft on the same computer?
#1606 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> pez_ - Try uninstalling it?
#1607 [16:47] <sugoi> as the one you run the server from?
#1608 [16:47] <pez_> ok one sec
#1609 [16:47] <pez_> uninstalling
#1610 [16:47] <dmerritt4> no it is closed at the moment but it is on this computer
#1611 [16:48] <sugoi> and minecraft_server is running currently?
#1612 [16:48] <pez_> uninstalled
#1613 [16:48] <pez_> fini
#1614 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> pez_ - Try minecraft now?
#1615 [16:48] * Sphearion_away is now known as Sphearion
#1616 [16:48] <pez_> ok one sec
#1617 [16:49] <pez_> tried still doesnt work
#1618 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> You're still gettin Login failed in the launcher?
#1619 [16:50] <pez_> yep
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#1621 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Okay, now that doesn't make sense..
#1622 [16:50] <pez_> confused
#1623 [16:50] <sugoi> dmerritt4: open minecraft on the same machine the minecraft_server is running on. add server using address 127.0.0.1. if that works, good - your server is up. But when your friends need to connect, have them use the address you see when you visit ipchicken.com
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#1625 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> pez_ - You're still using your email address as your username when you log into tha launcher, right?
#1626 [16:52] <pez_> yep
#1627 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Try changing your password one more time, use something simple.
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#1629 [16:52] <Rob_> I guess this problem is just unsolvable.
#1630 [16:52] * sugoi spaceballs ref, 12345
#1630 [16:53] <pez_> what about dragon
#1631 [16:53] <sugoi> Rob_: can you paste the errors is spams to pastebin for me?
#1632 [16:53] <dmerritt4> when i add server it says no connection?
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#1634 [16:53] <sugoi> dmerritt4: when you start the minecraft_server from command line, what happens?
#1635 [16:53] <pez_> GreyVulpine changed it
#1636 [16:54] <pez_> still doesnt work
#1637 [16:54] <sugoi> pez_: can you play in browser?
#1638 [16:54] <pez_> yes
#1639 [16:55] <sugoi> pez_: with all the changes you've done, try that (in browser) again now
#1640 [16:55] <dmerritt4> i dont even know what i am doing any more,/ it just comes up loading then it says done then that is it?
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#1642 [16:56] <pez_> done every things right
#1643 [16:56] <pez_> or not
#1644 [16:56] <sugoi> dmerritt4: sounds correct, yes. type "list" and press enter - it'll tell you who is online (should show 0/20 players or similar)
#1645 [16:56] <pez_> still comes up as login failed
#1646 [16:57] <dmerritt4> ok it sayed that :p
#1647 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Still thinking you've got some sort of firewall or security software that's on the computer, pez_
#1648 [16:57] <sugoi> dmerritt4: good :) btw, have you made any changes to files along side your minecraft_server file?
#1649 [16:57] <sugoi> pez_: as do i
#1650 [16:57] <pez_> ive turned everything off
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#1652 [16:58] <sugoi> pez_: has it worked before?
#1653 [16:58] <dmerritt4> i dont think so...
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#1655 [16:58] <pez_> yes
#1656 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Betting that the software is still running, or has an aspect which you haven't turned off.
#1657 [16:58] <sugoi> dmerritt4: now, don't stop or kill the server window/process - and start up minecraft client
#1658 [16:58] <SenriKyun> can anyone help me with logging into minecraft?
#1659 [16:58] <Rob_> sugoi, here it is http://pastebin.com/N6UbKJ9v
#1660 [16:58] <xales> GreyVulpine: pez_'s problem is that their Mojang account has no associated Minecraft profile/account (hasn't bought it)
#1661 [16:58] <xales> which I believe can give "Login Failed" errors
#1662 [16:59] <dmerritt4> is minecraft client jus minecraft?
#1663 [16:59] <sugoi> Rob_: that seems like only a snippet of the full thing
#1664 [16:59] <pez_> have
#1665 [16:59] <sugoi> Rob_: but, go to that same folder, and make a file called test.txt just for fun, and save it
#1666 [16:59] <sugoi> dmerritt4: yes
#1667 [16:59] <pez_> bought it
#1668 [16:59] <xales> dmerritt4: No, it's also a full-featured espresso machine AND toaster!
#1669 [16:59] <Rob_> it goes by really quick, I can't copy and paste it because it freezes as soon as i click it, I literally had to print screen and type it
#1670 [16:59] <dmerritt4> cool :p
#1671 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> xales - pez_ mentioned that minecraft is listed in their mojang account
#1672 [16:59] <xales> GreyVulpine: wasn't when I asked them about it
#1673 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> I asked them twice, even showed a picture.
#1674 [17:00] <sugoi> Rob_: if you run this from a command window, you can just highlight it
#1675 [17:00] <dmerritt4> ok now what?
#1676 [17:00] <sugoi> Rob_: sorry to have put you through so much trouble! :(
#1677 [17:00] <xales> hm, okay
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#1679 [17:00] <sugoi> dmerritt4: go to multiplayer, add server - enter 127.0.0.1 in the bottom field, then try to connect
#1680 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> pez_ - You're absolutely sure Minecraft's listed like: http://i.imgur.com/afqZugV.png
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#1683 [17:01] <pez_> <xales> it is there now refreshed page
#1684 [17:01] <xales> ah
#1685 [17:01] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: then why would browser work otherwise?
#1686 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> SSL authentication. Web doesn't use it. Launcher does
#1687 [17:01] <novo> mc still crashes when i hit single player
#1688 [17:01] <sugoi> i'm referring to paid account
#1689 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> There's a number of security suites that filter/proxy SSL connections
#1690 [17:01] <Rob_> sugoi, I did the text.txt file, nothing. and don't worry about it :p. i'll try again
#1691 [17:01] <xales> novo: Did you try installing any mods or texture packs?
#1692 [17:02] <dmerritt4> holy mother of god it worked :D :D :D :D :D
#1693 [17:02] <novo> not after i deleted everything
#1694 [17:02] <xales> novo: And, has Minecraft worked before?
#1695 [17:02] <sugoi> Rob_: "nothing" means what?
#1696 [17:02] <novo> ya
#1697 [17:02] <xales> ??> novo forceupdate
#1698 [17:02] <VoxelHead> novo: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1699 [17:02] <VoxelHead> novo: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1700 [17:02] <sugoi> dmerritt4: then to have others connect, have your friends use the ip you see when you visit ipchicken.com
#1701 [17:02] <novo> i did and it didnt work
#1702 [17:02] <pez_> <GreyVulpine> <xales> stop mming and ahing its making me feel bad
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#1704 [17:02] <Rob_> i just saved test.txt in the file with the server files and it just saved there, nothing happened
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#1706 [17:03] <xales> wat
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#1708 [17:03] <dmerritt4> ok is that it?
#1709 [17:03] <sugoi> Rob_: i just wanted to test that you have write access to that folder
#1710 [17:03] <sugoi> Rob_: i just wanted to test that you have write access to that folder
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#1712 [17:03] <pez_> <xales> you keep mming its scary im not a lyer
#1713 [17:04] <sugoi> :) pez_ i think you are reading the wrong tone in their text
#1714 [17:04] <pez_> ok im paranoid
#1715 [17:04] <pez_> arnt i
#1716 [17:04] <novo> still crashed after force update
#1717 [17:05] <sugoi> Rob_: can you redownload a vanilla server from minecraft.net/download, drop that into a new folder, and command line start it up
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#1719 [17:05] <xales> novo: Do you know how to get to the .minecraft folder?
#1720 [17:05] <galie> Hi, not sure exaclty how to use this site
#1721 [17:05] <novo> ya
#1722 [17:05] <sugoi> just to prove things work, then we move from there to your situation
#1723 [17:05] <xales> galie: Type what you want to say and hit enter.
#1724 [17:05] <galie> who answers the questions here? or is this just a chatroom?
#1725 [17:05] <xales> galie: What do you need hel pwith?
#1726 [17:06] <xales> galie: Anyone here can answer your questions, but people with an "@" or "+" are "official" helpers
#1727 [17:06] <dmerritt4> " a beem of light shines through my window and on the computer as angles sing" YAY!
#1728 [17:06] <xales> novo: Rename the .minecraft folder to something else, for example "oldminecraft"
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#1730 [17:06] <galie> OKay
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#1733 [17:07] <galie> my minecraft controls are not working properly. I'm not able to move my guy at all, and when I go to controls, all controls say 'button 1'
#1734 [17:07] <sugoi> galie: we can reset that - outside of minecraft
#1735 [17:07] <galie> a few days ago there was a small box that said "minecraft crashed"
#1736 [17:07] <sugoi> galie: are you on windows or mac?
#1737 [17:08] <novo> wont let me
#1738 [17:08] <galie> mac
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#1740 [17:09] <sugoi> galie: so i would recommend you delete your options file (will reset your control settings) - as well as force update your minecraft version (in case anything else got corrupted)
#1741 [17:09] <sugoi> galie: i forget where on mac you'll find your minecraft folder though, probably ~/.minecraft/
#1742 [17:10] * sugoi doesn't use macs, sorry
#1742 [17:10] <Rob_> okay sugoi i got the vanilla server jar and exe
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#1744 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> galie - Go to your desktop. Press your Command+shift+G keys at the same time to bring up the Go To Folder Command. There, type in exactly: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
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#1746 [17:11] <galie> okay, I'm not much of a computer person so I don't know how to do this
#1747 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> galie - Press enter. Find the options.txt file. Delete it, then run minecraft again
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#1749 [17:11] <galie> how do i delete my options file? from inside the game?
#1750 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> galie - Go to your desktop. Press your Command+shift+G keys at the same time to bring up the Go To Folder Command. There, type in exactly: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#1751 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> galie - Press enter. Find the options.txt file. Delete it, then run minecraft again
#1752 [17:12] <Rob_> okay i started it and it's doing the error again
#1753 [17:12] <sugoi> Rob_: what path are you using for this?
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#1755 [17:12] <sugoi> like, use something like c:\temp\ for this test
#1756 [17:13] <Rob_> what do you mean by that exactly?
#1757 [17:13] <sugoi> Rob_: where did you put this new clean minecraft_sever file? in a dir of its own? and what path?
#1758 [17:14] <Rob_> I made a new folder on my desktop and placed it there
#1759 [17:14] <Rob_> I should also add that this works on safe mode but doesnt work on normal mode
#1760 [17:14] <Rob_> the server works perfectly fine on safe mode and runs smoothly
#1761 [17:15] <sugoi> is this a trusted exe issue for a downloaded file...?
#1762 [17:15] <sugoi> i wonder if you have some new type of virus protection
#1763 [17:15] <Tbouv> can't connect to the demo. Using a Mac OS X version 10.7.5 w/ 2.7GHz Intel Core i5. Updated Java to version 7 and still can't connect to demo. Want to run demo before buying to make sure it works on my MAC. ANyone know why this is not working?
#1764 [17:15] <sugoi> double click the exe from explorer, if it asks if you trust it, say yes and always trust it
#1765 [17:15] <sugoi> then try again from command line
#1766 [17:16] <novo> mc still crashed after i deleted bin and resources and forceed update
#1767 [17:16] <sugoi> novo: can we see THAT crash report on pastebin?
#1768 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> novo - When does it crash, exactly? when starting minecraft or when loading a world?
#1769 [17:16] <sugoi> ^ novo good question from GreyVulpine
#1770 [17:17] <novo> it crashes when i click on single player
#1771 [17:17] <sugoi> novo: existing world or trying to make a new world?
#1772 [17:17] <galie> how do I run minecraft again?
#1773 [17:17] <galie> after I deleted it?
#1774 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> galie - Uh, download the launcher from minecraft.net/download and run it
#1775 [17:18] <novo> it wont let me pick either it just crashs
#1776 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> novo - Could we see an updated pastebin error report?
#1777 [17:18] <novo> ya 1 sec
#1778 [17:19] <novo> http://pastebin.com/UiwcT2Hv
#1779 [17:19] <Rob_> sugoi, i've closed my anti-virus and firewall and tried it. same error. I also tried running as administrator, same error. everything is fine. so you think this has to do with an anti-virus
#1780 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Looks still modded to me, novo.
#1781 [17:20] <Rob_> when I download it off chrome/explorer it downloads smoothly
#1782 [17:20] <sugoi> Rob_: i feel something is running your exe is some safety box - what happened when you double clicked it?
#1783 [17:20] <novo> i dont see how i deleted bin and resource file
#1784 [17:20] <sugoi> novo: are you repatching after that?
#1785 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> novo - Are you running some sort of third-party launcher, or the vanilla launcher from www.minecraft.net/download?
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#1788 [17:21] <novo> no
#1789 [17:21] <sugoi> novo: download the client launcher from minecraft.net/download
#1790 [17:22] <sugoi> save to desktop - run it, force update
#1791 [17:23] <novo> kk did that and it is still crashing
#1792 [17:23] <Rob_> when i double click it, it asks me to run or cancel and it says the file name, that it's an unkown file
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#1794 [17:23] <sugoi> Rob_: and do you get a "run always" option?
#1795 [17:23] <sugoi> checkbox
#1796 [17:24] <Rob_> yeah it's there
#1797 [17:24] <sugoi> Rob_: check it to allow torun always
#1798 [17:24] <sugoi> novo: can i help with remote desktop?
#1799 [17:24] <jes> how do i update minecraft?
#1800 [17:24] <novo> whats that
#1801 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> ??> jes forceupdate
#1802 [17:24] <galie> but HOW
#1803 [17:24] <VoxelHead> jes: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1804 [17:24] <VoxelHead> jes: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1805 [17:24] <jes> okay. Thanks
#1806 [17:24] <Rob_> you mean uncheck it? when i uncheck it won't ask me to run
#1807 [17:25] <sugoi> Rob_: something like that :) say you trust it basically
#1808 [17:25] <Rob_> i did it, it doesnt ask me to run anymore but the error still occurs
#1809 [17:25] <sugoi> sorry if i got that backwards
#1810 [17:25] <Rob_> there's nothing about trust though
#1811 [17:25] <sugoi> Rob_: i still worry then you have some antivirus - i've never heard of this tho
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#1813 [17:25] <sugoi> Rob_: but i don't help a lot here :) just a little, feel free to ask others + google it
#1814 [17:26] <Rob_> I've noticed, i looked up the error before on google
#1815 [17:26] <Rob_> its nowhere
#1816 [17:26] <Rob_> maybe it's just my computer? but thank you for your time
#1817 [17:26] <sugoi> novo: meaning, would you like to run a remote desktop connect for me to join you on your computer
#1818 [17:26] <sugoi> Rob_: i do hope you find a solution
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#1821 [17:29] <galie> HELLOW
#1822 [17:29] <sugoi> galie: hi
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#1824 [17:30] <galie> hi
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#1830 [17:32] <pachuco> my minecraft gets stuck on downloading terrain and then says timed out
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#1834 [17:34] <cestislife> ??> pachuco forceupdate
#1835 [17:34] <VoxelHead> pachuco: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1836 [17:34] <VoxelHead> pachuco: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1837 [17:35] <Anthony_> HI, when I attempt to update mincecraft; it gives me a prompt that it has failed to launch
#1838 [17:35] <Anthony_> it says fatal error occured and lists the C drive
#1839 [17:35] <Anthony_> and access denied
#1840 [17:36] <Anthony_> any help would be appreciated
#1841 [17:36] <pachuco> ok
#1842 [17:36] <Lutzee> Anthony_: sounds like the folder where some files are stored don't have permission to be written to
#1843 [17:36] <Lutzee> Anthony_: try running the minecraft.exe as administrator
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#1845 [17:37] <pachuco> voxel head i just forced updated and it still gets stuck on downloading terrain
#1846 [17:38] <Anthony_> okay, i just tried that and no go :(
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#1848 [17:38] <JeremyCharles> Crashes as soon as I login
#1849 [17:39] <pachuco> i am joining a multiplayer server and it gets stuck on downloading terrain, voxel head i just forced updated and it still gets stuck on downloading terrain
#1850 [17:39] <JeremyCharles> The game crashes as soon as I login, what can I do?
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#1854 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> pachuco: does this happen on all servers or just the one?
#1855 [17:45] <Anthony_> Running as admin didn't work.. Any other ideas?
#1856 [17:45] <pachuco> all servers
#1857 [17:45] <Rob_> SUGOI
#1858 [17:46] <sugoi> YES
#1859 [17:46] <Rob_> I fixed it :) after 3 days all I had to do was delete my antivirus
#1860 [17:46] <sugoi> ha - i do believe removing antivirus from the world would do us all some good
#1861 [17:46] <Rob_> hahahaha
#1862 [17:46] <Rob_> well thanks for giving me the idea, bye! :)
#1863 [17:46] <sugoi> you're welcome
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#1865 [17:47] <pachuco> i need help
#1866 [17:48] <pachuco> i am joining a multiplayer server and it gets stuck on downloading terrain, i just forced updated and it still gets stuck on downloading terrain
#1867 [17:48] <pachuco> and it even says press e to open your inv
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#1871 [18:01] <rec4> We are getting a new computer. Where is the minecraft data stored (default) on the old computer, so we can back it up and move it to the new computer?
#1872 [18:02] <cestislife> ??> rec4 win/.minecraft
#1873 [18:02] <VoxelHead> rec4: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1874 [18:02] <cestislife> Backup the saves folder
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#1877 [18:04] <rec4> @voxelhead: do you mean when the minecraft window appears?
#1878 [18:04] <osuka_> rec4: VoxelHead is a bot.
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#1880 [18:06] <rec4> Sorry. But, I don't understand how to access the saves folder and/or the .minecraft file. Is it on the hard drive?
#1881 [18:06] <mattym> rec4 are you on windows or mac?
#1882 [18:07] <rec4> windows
#1883 [18:08] <osuka_> just press win+R
#1884 [18:08] <mattym> Win is the WIndows key
#1885 [18:10] <Anthony_> hey guys... I figured out my prob! I went to the minecraft folder..deleted it and ran the file as admin and now its working
#1886 [18:10] <rec4> Found it. All I need is the saves file, right? Can I just copy to external hard drive, then put in same location I found it on new computer?
#1887 [18:10] <mattym> yes
#1888 [18:10] <Anthony_> It is now updating
#1889 [18:10] <mattym> rec4 make sure you run MC at least once before you try tho
#1890 [18:11] <rec4> Thanks mattym. Will install MC on new computer, login and run, then put Saves into the .minecraft folder in appdata.
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#1907 [18:28] <raithe> Attempted to intall on Ubuntu 12.10 with java 7.15 login opens then goes to black frozen screen after hitting button
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#1909 [18:30] <clarjon1> raithe: try runniing the jar from a terminal to try and grab any output :)
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#1915 [18:33] <raithe> 27 achievements 210 recipes Setting user: raithed, 3844994497949503010 Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a(SourceFile:205) at asq.a(SourceFile:56) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:515) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:722) Caused by: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 0 at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR$Screen.<init>(XRandR.java:234) at org.lwjgl.o
#1916 [18:35] <raithe> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR.populate(XRandR.java:87) at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR.access$100(XRandR.java:52) at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR$1.run(XRandR.java:110) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR.getConfiguration(XRandR.java:108) at org.lwjgl.opengl.LinuxDisplay.init(LinuxDisplay.java:618) at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.<clinit>(Display.java:135) ... 4 more
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#1918 [18:36] <DiscoVolante007> my minecraft is extremely laggy on my windows 7, how can i fis that?
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#1920 [18:37] <DiscoVolante007> How can I fix lag?
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#1929 [18:49] <raithe> Anyone familiar with Ubuntu issues?
#1930 [18:49] * NinjaKirby plays the "Air" Continuum, listening to Octavarium
#1930 [18:50] <NinjaKirby> I'm familiar with how strange and perplexing it is, after living on Windows systems for 15 years
#1931 [18:51] <NinjaKirby> Seems like to get anywhere with it, one should learn at least 30 Terminal commands
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#1933 [18:52] <raithe> I have it on WIn8 but just trying to be a problem solver
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#1943 [19:08] <Skeletal_Kobra> My Minecraft won't open, i've tried launching it as administrator, and using older versions of windows, yet it still won't open.
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#1950 [19:19] <NinjaKirby> OH GOD, I just realised what's missing
#1951 [19:19] * NinjaKirby arms his Grados headphones
#1951 [19:20] <NinjaKirby> Done the Dream Theater Discography to death today
#1952 [19:20] <NinjaKirby> Time for some fukken', HARD Bass
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#1957 [19:32] <Balee> Hi guise!
#1958 [19:32] <Balee> And gals!
#1959 [19:33] <Balee> Say, does running a MC server on one's PC and playing on it use about the same CPU/RAM as just playing on someone else's server, or is there significant difference to be expected?
#1960 [19:37] <Bugboy1028> Balee
#1961 [19:37] <Bugboy1028> It's about 225% increase if you plays and hosts on same laptop
#1962 [19:37] <Bugboy1028> Also included Bandwidth
#1963 [19:38] <Balee> 225% sounds a bit over the top.
#1964 [19:39] <Bugboy1028> Fine fine, IT's about 125% increase
#1965 [19:39] <Balee> I was expecting more like 25%, lol.
#1966 [19:39] <Balee> Are you sure about those figures? :P
#1967 [19:40] <Bugboy1028> IF you ress ALT + DEL + Ctrl and see your cpu
#1968 [19:40] <Bugboy1028> it will tell you
#1969 [19:40] <NinjaKirby> I have a modern machine, and have dual-wielded two Clients and a Server simultaneously without issue. Doesn't appear to be too strenuous.
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#1972 [19:48] <jacko> hi guys. my son plays minecraft on the xbox and it just had an update. nthe right thumbstick no longer works so he is unable to look around. we tried going into the controller settings and tried another controller but to no avail. Any ideas? Thanks for your time.
#1973 [19:48] <blahhjimmy> This is bugging the living hell out of me. Before I purchased Minecraft, I had the demo version through AllMyApps, and after I bought it, it only opens through AllMyApps, It doesn't show up in my computers files, and there is no minecraft.jar folder to install forge or mods. I don't understand what happened at all.
#1974 [19:50] <blahhjimmy> It isn't listed in the add or remove programs list either or I'd just try to reinstall it.
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#1976 [19:51] <mom> Why does minecraft continue to crash and is unusable on my Mac lap top?
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#1980 [19:53] <bobstevejohn> hello i need minecraft help please :+l
#1981 [19:53] <Lutzee> ?? ask
#1982 [19:53] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1983 [19:53] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1984 [19:54] <blahhjimmy> I was as specific as I could be about the situation and I have no help
#1985 [19:54] <bobstevejohn> i cant connect to minecraft\
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#1987 [19:54] <bobstevejohn> hello
#1988 [19:54] <bobstevejohn> anyone ther
#1989 [19:54] <Lutzee> blahhjimmy: we dont provide support for modded versions of the game
#1990 [19:55] <Lutzee> bobstevejohn: Can't connect to minecraft.net error?
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#1992 [19:55] <bobstevejohn> yes
#1993 [19:55] <bobstevejohn> it just shows me a cahched version'
#1994 [19:56] <blahhjimmy> No that's the point, I wanted to download an explosives mod for the nukes and I can't do anything.
#1995 [19:56] <bobstevejohn> abcdefghigklmnopqrstuvwxyz
#1996 [19:56] <Lutzee> bobstevejohn: I can only type so fast, and i also need some thinking time to, please be patient
#1997 [19:56] <bobstevejohn> ok.
#1998 [19:56] <mom> minecraft continues to crash. Why?
#1999 [19:56] <Lutzee> blahhjimmy: Use the default launcher and force update
#2000 [19:57] <mom> is someone there to help?
#2001 [19:57] <Lutzee> bobstevejohn: what antivirus do you use
#2002 [19:57] <cestislife> mom: Provide the crash log please, via pastebin.com
#2003 [19:57] <bobstevejohn> macafee
#2004 [19:58] <mom> minecraft help for Mac user???
#2005 [19:58] <Emily> We are trying to activate our prepaid card. We can log on to Minecraft.net with our EMail and Password but its not letting us enter with Profile UN
#2006 [19:58] <Emily> Can you help us
#2007 [19:58] <cestislife> Emily: Redeem at account.mojang.com instead
#2008 [19:58] <blahhjimmy> I only have one launcher. I think I got rid of all my apps, but The file I was telling you about, Minecraft.jar. Doesn't exist and I just wanted that for a mod or too. The game won't load LAN worlds either no matter how long I let it load.
#2009 [19:58] <Emily> We already did
#2010 [19:59] <cestislife> minecraft.net != account.mojang.com
#2011 [19:59] <bobstevejohn> i have to go
#2012 [19:59] <cestislife> blahhjimmy: On windows?
#2013 [20:00] <Emily> We redeemed and can log into Minecraft but cannot get into the Minecraft part when it asked for Profile Name and PW
#2014 [20:00] <mom> No crash log. Just a blank screen.
#2015 [20:00] <Emily> We want to do this on our MAC
#2016 [20:00] <cestislife> Emily: go to account.mojang.com/me and tell me what you see under "My Games"
#2017 [20:01] <cestislife> mom: Please obtain a crash report so we can diagnose your problem - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2018 [20:01] <Emily> It says you can import ur existing profile into this acct.
#2019 [20:01] <cestislife> Then you did not redeem the game successfully.
#2020 [20:01] <cestislife> If Minecraft is not listed there.
#2021 [20:02] <mom> I see Minecraft.
#2022 [20:02] <cestislife> That was not aimed at you, mom.
#2023 [20:02] <cestislife> Wow that was awkward.
#2024 [20:02] <cestislife> heh
#2025 [20:02] <Emily> It says it has already been redeemed when we enter our card
#2026 [20:02] <Emily> We put it in and it came up sucessfully
#2027 [20:03] <cestislife> Then you're not logged into the account that you redeemed th card on.
#2028 [20:03] <cestislife> You should see something similar to this if it is successful - http://i.imgur.com/Vuqbner.png
#2029 [20:03] <Emily> We did it on Hockeygal522@aol.com
#2030 [20:04] <Emily> Are u an administrator of the acct?
#2031 [20:04] <Lutzee> Emily: we are only volenteers, we do not have access to account details
#2032 [20:04] <cestislife> Then login using that email on account.mojang.com
#2033 [20:05] <mom> unable to access crash report.
#2034 [20:05] <cestislife> Then I cannot help you.
#2035 [20:05] <cestislife> I can suggest a force update
#2036 [20:05] <cestislife> ??> mom forceupdate
#2037 [20:05] <VoxelHead> mom: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2038 [20:05] <VoxelHead> mom: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2039 [20:06] <Emily> OK we got it
#2040 [20:07] <mom> Force Update not an option.
#2041 [20:07] <cestislife> Please follow the visual instruction.
#2042 [20:08] <mom> visual is not the same as my screen. "Option" not an option
#2043 [20:09] <Bugboy1028> mom, when is last time you update the minecraft?
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#2045 [20:09] <Bugboy1028> cestislife, she may be using old version
#2046 [20:10] <cestislife> ??> mon mac/client
#2047 [20:10] <VoxelHead> mon: (mac/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip
#2048 [20:10] <cestislife> uh
#2049 [20:10] <cestislife> ??> mom mac/client
#2050 [20:10] <cestislife> ??> mom mac/client
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#2052 [20:10] <VoxelHead> mom: (mac/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip
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#2054 [20:11] <mom> VoxelHead "Minecraft is damaged and can't be opened. you should move it to the Trash."
#2055 [20:12] <cestislife> ??> mom mac/gatekeeper
#2056 [20:12] <VoxelHead> mom: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#2057 [20:12] <cestislife> ??> mac/gatekeeper/disable
#2058 [20:12] <cestislife> uh
#2059 [20:12] <cestislife> ??> mom mac/gatekeeper/disable
#2060 [20:12] <VoxelHead> mom: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
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#2062 [20:16] <mom> No Gatekeeper. I'm leaving.
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#2066 [20:24] <TheGatekeeper> I am the Ancient Gatekeeper, I Command Thee, "Mom", To Remain!
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#2068 [20:26] <mattym> i chose an interesting time to look back at this screen
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#2107 [21:27] <h4rleyh> I have been trying to get on to mindcrack for days now. the chicago server seems to be down. How can I connect to scranton?
#2108 [21:28] <xales> You'd have the ask the people who run those servers; we don't.
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#2110 [21:28] <h4rleyh> that would be minecraft. how do you contact them.
#2111 [21:28] <Noah1831> minecraft is nto working on ym computer
#2112 [21:28] <xales> The "Mindcrack" servers are not run by Mojang.
#2113 [21:28] <h4rleyh> I cant seem to find a way. that is how I ended up here.
#2114 [21:28] <xales> There are no official Minecraft servers.
#2115 [21:29] <xales> ??> Noah1831 win/dxdiag
#2116 [21:29] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2117 [21:29] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#2118 [21:29] <tyteen4a03> Noah1831, what happens when you run it?
#2119 [21:29] <tyteen4a03> xales, /bat
#2120 [21:29] <Noah1831> i get this error http://pastebin.com/hfYiw85Z
#2121 [21:29] <xales> tyteen4a03: meh
#2122 [21:29] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2123 [21:29] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#2124 [21:29] <tyteen4a03> Noah1831, ignore the bot and use this instead:
#2125 [21:29] <Noah1831> ?
#2126 [21:29] <tyteen4a03> ??> Noah1831 win/dxdiag/bat
#2127 [21:29] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#2128 [21:29] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#2129 [21:29] <h4rleyh> I have done that several times.
#2130 [21:29] <tyteen4a03> xales, who cares
#2131 [21:30] <h4rleyh> it shows that their servers are down
#2132 [21:30] <Noah1831> um
#2133 [21:30] <Noah1831> direct x?
#2134 [21:30] <xales> h4rleyh: Then they are down.
#2135 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> h4rleyh, not our business
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#2137 [21:30] <Noah1831> i have 9.0c on my computer
#2138 [21:30] <h4rleyh> thanks for nothing. this should be taken off of minecrafts suppport pat.
#2139 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> Noah1831, just follow the instructions
#2140 [21:30] <h4rleyh> page
#2141 [21:30] <xales> Noah1831: Do what the instructions say.
#2142 [21:30] <xales> h4rleyh: What do you want us to do, make the servers go up for you?
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#2144 [21:31] <mattym> Some folks just dont get it
#2145 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Obviously xales
#2146 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Cause, we're support.
#2147 [21:31] <tyteen4a03> xales, I forgot what I wanted to say in my kick message
#2148 [21:31] <xales> ._.
#2149 [21:31] <xales> lol
#2150 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> We're all issued a magic wand.
#2151 [21:31] <xales> tyteen4a03: "Well I guess you should have scrolled all the way to the bottom before clicking 'Agree.'" ?
#2152 [21:31] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, and a banhammer
#2153 [21:31] <tyteen4a03> xales, you can do that?
#2154 [21:32] <xales> I know, right?
#2155 [21:33] <Noah1831> http://pastebin.com/kRyViwpY
#2156 [21:33] <tyteen4a03> Noah1831, your computer is too old to play Minecraft, but try this workaround first:
#2157 [21:33] <xales> lol Intel
#2158 [21:33] <tyteen4a03> ??> Noah1831 win/intelgpu
#2159 [21:33] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (win/intelgpu) Sometimes, having an old Intel Integrated GPU on Windows XP might cause Minecraft to not run. (Please note that computers that have old Intel Integrated GPUs usually have low performance, and purchasing a new computer will, in the long run, be better for you.)
#2160 [21:33] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (win/intelgpu) Control Panel > Display > Settings > Advanced > Troubleshoot, turn Hardware acceleration to below half (or off).
#2161 [21:34] <Noah1831> um
#2162 [21:34] <Noah1831> its not too old
#2163 [21:34] <Noah1831> this is a 2009 computer
#2164 [21:34] <Noah1831> i played minecraft on a 2003 computer
#2165 [21:35] <Noah1831> it worked before
#2166 [21:35] <Noah1831> it just stopped working
#2167 [21:35] <tyteen4a03> Noah1831, depends on the setting, even a 2013 computer can be as crappy as a 1998 one
#2168 [21:35] <xales> You might have bought it in 2009, but it's certainly not from 2009.
#2169 [21:35] <xales> Unless it was bargain-basement.
#2170 [21:35] <xales> Or bargain-subbasement ._.
#2171 [21:35] <Noah1831> i bought it this year
#2172 [21:35] <Noah1831> and it was manufactured in 2009
#2173 [21:35] <Noah1831> had vista on it
#2174 [21:35] <xales> okay, well, it's crap for gaming, the specs are horrible
#2175 [21:35] <Noah1831> put xp on because its better
#2176 [21:35] <tyteen4a03> ??> Noah1831 win/intelgpu
#2177 [21:35] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (win/intelgpu) Sometimes, having an old Intel Integrated GPU on Windows XP might cause Minecraft to not run. (Please note that computers that have old Intel Integrated GPUs usually have low performance, and purchasing a new computer will, in the long run, be better for you.)
#2178 [21:36] <Noah1831> um
#2179 [21:36] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (win/intelgpu) Control Panel > Display > Settings > Advanced > Troubleshoot, turn Hardware acceleration to below half (or off).
#2180 [21:36] <Noah1831> portal 2 medium settings
#2181 [21:36] <Noah1831> it has dual integrated graphics
#2182 [21:36] <tyteen4a03> Noah1831, if you wish to argue with our suggestions, please don't ask for it in the first place
#2183 [21:36] <xales> integrated graphics are horrifically bad
#2184 [21:36] <xales> having 2 just means twice the badess
#2185 [21:36] <Noah1831> minecraft just dropped support for intel express chipsets
#2186 [21:37] <Noah1831> broke on my laptop too at the same time
#2187 [21:37] <xales> shocking
#2188 [21:37] <tyteen4a03> Noah1831, they have never supported Intel integrated GPUs
#2189 [21:37] <Noah1831> i need a way around
#2190 [21:37] <xales> Intel Express chipsets are designed for web browsing
#2191 [21:37] <tyteen4a03> ??> Noah1831 win/intelgpu
#2192 [21:37] <Noah1831> i ran it before...
#2193 [21:37] <xales> not playing games
#2194 [21:37] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (win/intelgpu) Sometimes, having an old Intel Integrated GPU on Windows XP might cause Minecraft to not run. (Please note that computers that have old Intel Integrated GPUs usually have low performance, and purchasing a new computer will, in the long run, be better for you.)
#2195 [21:37] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (win/intelgpu) Control Panel > Display > Settings > Advanced > Troubleshoot, turn Hardware acceleration to below half (or off).
#2196 [21:37] * xales kicked Noah1831 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oah1831 :Follow VoxelHead's instructions.)
#2197 [21:37] <tyteen4a03> xales, we're on a people-pissing strike!
#2198 [21:37] <cestislife> lol
#2199 [21:37] <tyteen4a03> *pissing-people-off
#2200 [21:37] <xales> \o.O/
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#2202 [21:40] <noah1831_2> i dont want to listen to voxel heads intructions because its dumb, it works on intel HD 3000 integrated but not express chipsets, it just dropped support, i have the latest drivers and every, no malware, fresh windows installation
#2203 [21:40] * tyteen4a03 kicked noah1831_2 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oah1831_2 :If you wish to argue with our suggestions, please don't ask for it in the first place)
#2204 [21:40] <xales> I DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO WHAT WILL MAKE IT WORK BECAUSE IT'S DUMB
#2205 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> xales, let's ban him next time
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#2207 [21:40] <xales> k
#2208 [21:40] <xales> let me
#2209 [21:40] <CrusAtGirlfriends> As they told you before, why would you even bother to take our suggestions if you are going to argue with it? That's like calling the paramedics/police/firemen when a Crime/Accident/Fire happens.
#2210 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> xales, no D:
#2211 [21:40] <noah1831_2> i already tried all of your suggestions
#2212 [21:41] <xales> noah1831_2: If you did what VoxelHead said, it would work.
#2213 [21:41] <xales> One last time:
#2214 [21:41] <tyteen4a03> noah1831_2, if the workaround doesn't work, then your computer cannot run Minecraft under XP
#2215 [21:41] <xales> ??> noah1831_2 win/intelgpu
#2216 [21:41] <VoxelHead> noah1831_2: (win/intelgpu) Sometimes, having an old Intel Integrated GPU on Windows XP might cause Minecraft to not run. (Please note that computers that have old Intel Integrated GPUs usually have low performance, and purchasing a new computer will, in the long run, be better for you.)
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#2218 [21:41] <VoxelHead> noah1831_2: (win/intelgpu) Control Panel > Display > Settings > Advanced > Troubleshoot, turn Hardware acceleration to below half (or off).
#2219 [21:41] <tyteen4a03> noah1831_2, if the workaround doesn't work, then your computer cannot run Minecraft under XP
#2220 [21:41] * CrusAtGirlfriends is now known as Deleters
#2221 [21:43] <noah1831_2> ok
#2222 [21:43] <noah1831_2> can you please explain why it worked before?
#2223 [21:43] <tyteen4a03> noah1831_2, basically Windows
#2224 [21:43] <xales> Probably because you were running a different operating system, probably with different drivers?
#2225 [21:44] <xales> Regardless, if you're running below the posted minimum requirements, you /cannot/ expect it to work.
#2226 [21:44] <tyteen4a03> xales, you're hyper today
#2227 [21:44] <xales> tyteen4a03: I'm actually a bot
#2228 [21:44] <xales> well, "bot" is degrading
#2229 [21:44] <xales> I'm an experimental neural network IRC chatbot
#2230 [21:44] <tyteen4a03> xales, would you go on a date with me?
#2231 [21:44] <tyteen4a03> we can have hot sex after
#2232 [21:44] <xales> sure
#2233 [21:44] <Deleters> ...Still has bot in it. :P
#2234 [21:44] <noah1831_2> .-.
#2235 [21:44] <Deleters> Oh god why.
#2236 [21:45] <noah1831_2> i would have never guessed that was a bot
#2237 [21:45] <tyteen4a03> noah1831_2, sarcasm alert
#2238 [21:45] <Deleters> Noah: I was astounded too.
#2239 [21:45] <xales> noah1831_2: No, you wouldn't, would you?
#2240 [21:45] <xales> tyteen4a03: I am incapable of being sarcastic at this level of neural connectivity.
#2241 [21:45] <Deleters> All this, time, I thought he was a human. :o
#2242 [21:45] <tyteen4a03> now kids, telling lies is bad
#2243 [21:45] <Deleters> And all this time, I thought Voxel was a bot. While he's a super fast typing human.
#2244 [21:46] <xales> The axonal bridge to the reverse-logic processing centers are not developed yet...
#2245 [21:46] <Deleters> All I know is a lie.
#2246 [21:46] <xales> excuse me I made a mistake in grammar
#2247 [21:46] <xales> excuse me I made a mistake in grammar
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#2250 [21:46] <xales> Reset complete.
#2251 [21:46] <Deleters> die@inafire.com?
#2252 [21:46] <xales> Deleters: yes, I suggest you comply
#2253 [21:47] <noah1831_2> btw, i never changed anything while it worked before, i just need to know if minecraft can just drop support for hardware
#2254 [21:47] <noah1831_2> and why
#2255 [21:47] <Deleters> *shrug* Bots are our overlord anyways.
#2256 [21:47] <mattym> burn
#2257 [21:47] <noah1831_2> because that makes no sense
#2258 [21:47] <Deleters> Matty: Budum TSH!!
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#2260 [21:47] <xales> noah1831_2: Minecraft didn't "just drop support"
#2261 [21:47] <noah1831_2> ._.
#2262 [21:47] <xales> It's /never/ supported IE chips
#2263 [21:47] <mattym> glad someone caught it
#2264 [21:47] <tyteen4a03> noah1831_2, Minecraft uses OpenGL, if the hardware drivers cannot support OpenGL to a certain extent then it will not work
#2265 [21:47] <xales> if you happened to be able to get it to work, then great
#2266 [21:47] <noah1831_2> im running it on intel hd graphics right now
#2267 [21:47] <noah1831_2> .>.
#2268 [21:47] <noah1831_2> ._.
#2269 [21:47] <tyteen4a03> noah1831_2, Intel HD supports OpenGL better
#2270 [21:47] <xales> That is supported. Sort of. Barely.
#2271 [21:47] <cestislife> Intel HD Graphics != Intel Express Chipsets
#2272 [21:48] <tyteen4a03> ^
#2273 [21:48] <Deleters> That's like saying NVidia 6000 = NVidia 600?
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#2275 [21:48] <xales> Deleters: I wouldn't go that far...
#2276 [21:48] <Deleters> But I did. :D
#2277 [21:48] <tyteen4a03> Deleters, might as well say PCI-E = AGP
#2278 [21:48] <cestislife> Notice the !=
#2279 [21:48] <noah1831_2> yup
#2280 [21:48] <xales> More like calling a UniChrome a Radeon Xpress
#2281 [21:48] <Deleters> Whut. UniChrome?
#2282 [21:48] <xales> lol
#2283 [21:48] <xales> Google it
#2284 [21:49] <cestislife> The fact that I am not familiar with that...
#2285 [21:49] <cestislife> >.>
#2286 [21:49] <cestislife> <.<
#2287 [21:49] <noah1831_2> that still doesnt explain why it woprked before on both my IE graphics and broke at the same time though ._.
#2288 [21:49] <noah1831_2> im very confised now
#2289 [21:49] <xales> noah1831_2: Regardless.
#2290 [21:49] <tyteen4a03> noah1831_2, because drivers are different on XP and Vista/7
#2291 [21:49] <noah1831_2> confused*
#2292 [21:49] <xales> IE cards WERE NEVER SUPPORTED
#2293 [21:49] <noah1831_2> ik they were never supported
#2294 [21:49] <tyteen4a03> noah1831_2, the XP one does not support OpenGL 2.0, which Minecraft's underlying library requires
#2295 [21:49] <xales> Then why are you complaining?
#2296 [21:49] <rem> it says not to wait for help, so ill ask.... I paid for minecraft, got a receipt number, but i havent received my confirm email. My account doesn't show any change, so I dont know where to request the email again
#2297 [21:50] <tyteen4a03> the Vista one, however, kind of does
#2298 [21:50] <tyteen4a03> rem, how long has it been?
#2299 [21:50] <xales> rem: If there has been no charge, then your card was declined.
#2300 [21:50] <noah1831_2> i have 2.1 installed, even says so in speccy
#2301 [21:50] <xales> rem: It often will say the card was declined, then still give you a receipt number.
#2302 [21:50] <rem> 2 days now
#2303 [21:50] <xales> Then the charge failed.
#2304 [21:50] <noah1831_2> one second
#2305 [21:50] <xales> You will need to contact your bank to ask why it was declined.
#2306 [21:50] <noah1831_2> ill create a new pastebin post
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#2308 [21:50] <xales> Often it's because it's an international transaction and you need to pre-approve those.
#2309 [21:50] <tyteen4a03> xales, any idea what the opengl requirement is for minecraft?
#2310 [21:51] <xales> tyteen4a03: 1.3 with extensions for older versions, 2.0 now I believe
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#2312 [21:51] <rem> hmmm. it should of been okay, its a pre-paid credit visa card
#2313 [21:51] <tyteen4a03> xales, good, so my memory did not derp
#2314 [21:51] <xales> rem: you will not be able to pay with that
#2315 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> rem - Prepaid cards have always had problems, due to the limitations on international tranasactions with it
#2316 [21:51] <tyteen4a03> noah1831_2, it's really a strange problem that lies within the Intel drivers for XP
#2317 [21:51] <rem> awesome.
#2318 [21:51] <xales> rem: The only way to buy it with a prepaid card is to go to a retail location and buy the gift card
#2319 [21:52] <xales> rem: http://minecraft.net/prepaid
#2320 [21:52] <rem> yea, they dont sell those here in NZ
#2321 [21:52] <tyteen4a03> xales, read ISP
#2322 [21:52] <tyteen4a03> rem, a way to get over the limitation is by using a PayPal account - save enough money into it using your prepaid VISA card, then use the PayPal account to pay for it
#2323 [21:52] <xales> ah
#2324 [21:53] <xales> tyteen4a03: can only transfer money from a bank account AFAIK
#2325 [21:53] <noah1831_2> ok
#2326 [21:53] <noah1831_2> i guess this is small enough to just post in chat
#2327 [21:53] <tyteen4a03> xales, somebody (I think GreyVulpine) told me you can
#2328 [21:53] <noah1831_2> OpenGL Version 2.1.0 - Build 6.14.10.5420 Vendor Intel Renderer Intel Q45/Q43 Express Chipset GLU Version 1.2.2.0 Microsoft Corporation
#2329 [21:53] <tyteen4a03> xales, AND IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT
#2330 [21:53] <xales> I tried a while ago, and unfortunately you can't.
#2331 [21:53] <noah1831_2> oh
#2332 [21:53] <tyteen4a03> xales, oh well
#2333 [21:53] <xales> At least, not back then.
#2334 [21:53] <noah1831_2> tyteen
#2335 [21:53] <rem> okay, im gonna check the ballance and see if its been debited
#2336 [21:53] <noah1831_2> i just read what you said about drivers
#2337 [21:53] <tyteen4a03> noah1831_2, yeah
#2338 [21:53] <tyteen4a03> noah1831_2, had one myself
#2339 [21:54] <Lutzee> Its worth a shot trying again anyway
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#2341 [21:54] <xales> lol
#2342 [21:54] <cestislife> Well bye
#2343 [21:54] <tyteen4a03> cestislife, that is a late goodbye
#2344 [21:55] <cestislife> tyteen4a03, I'm slow :(
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#2346 [21:55] <tyteen4a03> and it's ALL xale'S FAULT
#2347 [21:55] <tyteen4a03> also hi blah
#2348 [21:57] <Deleters> Oh dear god.
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#2350 [21:57] <Deleters> cestislife: Guess who I found on the #minecraftforge channel?
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#2352 [21:57] <cestislife> Deleters: who?
#2353 [21:57] <Deleters> Cazzar.
#2354 [21:57] <cestislife> Wha?
#2355 [21:58] <Deleters> He's a friend of the owner of one of my communities
#2356 [21:58] <tyteen4a03> Deleters, cazzar?
#2357 [21:58] <Deleters> And. I. Hate. Him.
#2358 [21:58] <cestislife> I don't follow
#2359 [21:58] <cestislife> .-.
#2360 [21:58] <cestislife> .-.
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#2363 [21:58] <Deleters> I was browsing the channel, I found Cazzar, who I dread.
#2364 [21:58] <Deleters> Just wanted to tell someone. :)
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#2366 [21:58] <cestislife> xD
#2367 [21:59] <tyteen4a03> cazzar's name is familiar
#2368 [21:59] <Deleters> And you were in the channel, so I just told you.
#2369 [21:59] <tyteen4a03> I may know him some time in my past
#2370 [21:59] <Deleters> Dev of MCForge, the server software
#2371 [21:59] <tyteen4a03> hmm
#2372 [22:00] <tyteen4a03> I didn't follow lawl forks seriously
#2373 [22:00] <tyteen4a03> all I cared was myne and maybe fCraft
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#2383 [22:42] <Bobicraft> Hey! My Minecraft has crashed again
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#2388 [22:47] <slenderiscoooooool> i bought minecraft but when i downloaded it, it wouldnt download
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#2390 [22:47] <Jman6382> My mincraft demo wont run and i want to get it running before i buy the game. I have a mac and the demo crashes right after it loads. Any suggestions?
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#2394 [22:49] <Guest21918> When playing, my CPU usage goes to 100%, and the processess show it's the java that's using all the memory. This isn't normal is it?
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#2398 [22:55] <will_> screen is jumping and i can not move.. help
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#2403 [23:12] <Andrew> I am having a problem in different worlds I have created. I fly up and I am stuck up in the air. I am not able to get back to the ground. I have to delete the world because I am stuck. It only does it in some of the worlds though. Any thoughts?
#2404 [23:14] <Deleters> Andrew: How do you mean youcannot get back to the ground? You cannot disable fly, and descend?
#2405 [23:14] <Andrew> Correct. I am able to fly up but cannot go back down.
#2406 [23:15] <Deleters> You tried to use Left Shift to descend, or tried to double-tap space to disable fly?
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#2408 [23:16] <Andrew> I haven't tried left shift. I only tried double-tap. That is the only one I was aware of.
#2409 [23:17] <Deleters> Double-tap disables fly, and you may not be pressing it fast enough. Left shift can disable flight if you touch the ground.
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#2411 [23:19] <Andrew> i tried it many, many times. I don't think it is an issue of pushing it fast enough. I have been able to do it in other worlds and therefore know how quickly to double tap.
#2412 [23:19] <Deleters> Oh.
#2413 [23:20] <Deleters> Does Left-Shift let you descend, though? :)
#2414 [23:21] <Andrew> i'm not sure. I will need to try that.
#2415 [23:25] <Andrew> Thanks for the suggestion! We will see how it goes.
#2416 [23:25] <Andrew> Thanks for the suggestion! We will see how it goes.
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#2422 [23:33] <jen> I cant log on and dont know why?
#2423 [23:33] <giovanni> hello i bought the game minecraft but it is not working
#2424 [23:34] <jen> yes that is true
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#2426 [23:34] <cestislife> jen: Login with your email
#2427 [23:34] <jen> i did
#2428 [23:34] <cestislife> giovanni: Elaborate.
#2429 [23:34] <jen> and it still wont work
#2430 [23:34] <cestislife> Define won't work.
#2431 [23:34] <jen> wont allow me onto the site
#2432 [23:35] <cestislife> login at account.mojang.com
#2433 [23:35] <giovanni> can you help me to log in and make the game work
#2434 [23:35] <jen> i will try to log in again
#2435 [23:35] <cestislife> Login at account.mojang.com/me and tell me what you see under "My Games"?
#2436 [23:35] <jen> ok
#2437 [23:36] <giovanni> I msorry are you talking to giovanni or somebody else
#2438 [23:36] <cestislife> Both.
#2439 [23:37] <giovanni> to log in i need to leave this page
#2440 [23:37] <jen> this is what it is telling me... when I am loging in ..LoginOops, unknown username or password. If you are logging in with a Mojang account make sure to use your e-mail address as username.
#2441 [23:37] <cestislife> jen: Then your login credentials are incorrect.
#2442 [23:38] <cestislife> giovanni: Do you not have a nother tab open?
#2443 [23:38] <jen> and I used me e-mail for the user name
#2444 [23:38] <jen> yes I do have another tab open to talk to you
#2445 [23:38] <cestislife> jen: Then the email is not in the system, I have no way to check for that
#2446 [23:38] <cestislife> jen: That was nto aimed at you.
#2447 [23:38] <cestislife> not*
#2448 [23:38] <jen> I understand.
#2449 [23:38] <jen> How do I get into the sytem if I already paid for it? is there no one to talk to on a phone?
#2450 [23:39] <giovanni> yes i do one second after i log in itt shows me download do i click on it
#2451 [23:39] <cestislife> Er yes?
#2452 [23:39] <jen> I did down load it..I will try again
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#2454 [23:41] <giovanni> so it is showing that i have minecraft since february 16 and it shows download windows/ mac/linux
#2455 [23:42] <cestislife> giovanni: Then yeah, just download the launcher, and login there as well.
#2456 [23:42] <cestislife> Pick the option that corresponds to your operating system
#2457 [23:42] <giovanni> i couldnt do it on my I pad
#2458 [23:43] <cestislife> The game does not work on the iPad.
#2459 [23:43] <cestislife> Well, at least the PC version.
#2460 [23:43] <cestislife> The iPad has its own Pocket Edition, but it has severely limited features
#2461 [23:44] <giovanni> ok so on a regular computer ok let me try
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#2468 [23:49] <giovanni> ok i clicked on download it took me a page where i have to use usename and password i used mine it told me can not log in
#2469 [23:50] <Lutzee> Use your email and password
#2470 [23:51] <giovanni> i did used my e mail and password i used to login it told me the same no log in
#2471 [23:56] <giovanni> can i cancel my purchase and got my money back
#2472 [23:57] <giovanni> are you still with me