#MinecraftHelp > 2013-02-22
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#4 [00:04] <Michaeladj> my screen is white 0.o
#5 [00:05] <niel> and
#6 [00:05] <Michaeladj> it wont start\
#7 [00:05] <niel> what wont
#8 [00:05] <Michaeladj> minecraft
#9 [00:05] <Michaeladj> (i play in browser
#10 [00:05] <Michaeladj> )
#11 [00:05] <niel> try to cancel it
#12 [00:06] <niel> why do you play in browser
#13 [00:06] <Michaeladj> reasons
#14 [00:06] <niel> well i cant help you there
#15 [00:06] <Michaeladj> UGH
#16 [00:06] <niel> why not get the game?
#17 [00:07] <Michaeladj> i have it u just play in browser
#18 [00:07] <niel> dude the download is much better
#19 [00:07] <Michaeladj> i know but i cant
#20 [00:07] <niel> why not?
#21 [00:08] <niel> parents?
#22 [00:08] <Michaeladj> my parents (its a differant issue entirely)
#23 [00:08] <niel> well
#24 [00:08] <niel> i can help you there
#25 [00:08] <Michaeladj> cool
#26 [00:08] <niel> so your parents dont want you to have the game?
#27 [00:09] <Michaeladj> they dont like me downloading stuff
#28 [00:09] <Michaeladj> theyre paranoid ill give them a virus
#29 [00:09] <niel> this is the safest download there is in the world
#30 [00:09] <Michaeladj> well tell it to thwm
#31 [00:09] <niel> bring your parents to the computer plz
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#33 [00:09] <Michaeladj> ....
#34 [00:10] <Michaeladj> not so sure bout that
#35 [00:10] <niel> that rediclious
#36 [00:10] <Michaeladj> it is
#37 [00:10] <niel> its been donwload millions off times
#38 [00:10] <niel> please bring them here
#39 [00:10] <Michaeladj> i tell them that.....
#40 [00:10] <Scott> niel: Leave him be
#41 [00:10] <Michaeladj> and no
#42 [00:11] <niel> do you know when you play in browser it also download things
#43 [00:12] <Michaeladj> ya but my parents arnt that tech savvy so if its not obvious they dont know
#44 [00:12] <niel> your just using the browser as aluncher
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#46 [00:12] <Michaeladj> yaaa
#47 [00:12] <niel> so
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#49 [00:12] <niel> having the download just makes it go faster
#50 [00:12] <nothisispatricia> I have a mac and Minecraft won't let me play in browser?
#51 [00:12] <Michaeladj> ya ive had it before
#52 [00:12] <niel> its probly actally safer than the browser
#53 [00:12] <Scott> nothisispatricia: Try downloading the .app file
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#55 [00:13] <Michaeladj> seems like im not the only one with browser problems
#56 [00:13] <Scott> and make sure your software updates are installed
#57 [00:13] <nothisispatricia> My friend is playing online and I want to play multiplayer with her but I don't know how :( really new t minecraft
#58 [00:13] <Scott> Is your friend logged in a server or hosting one?
#59 [00:13] <Scott> Michaeladj: you have a mac?
#60 [00:14] <nothisispatricia> yeah. and i have no clue at all, like I said, really new. I literally just downloaded and everything.
#61 [00:14] <Scott> Download this and unzip it: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip
#62 [00:14] <Scott> You'll want to put the Minecraft.app folder in your Applications folder
#63 [00:15] <Scott> You should be able to open it then
#64 [00:15] <Scott> if it blocks you from opening it, it's because of Gatekeeper
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#72 [00:16] <Michaeladj> I fixed it myself thanks MINECRAFTHELP
#73 [00:17] <Michaeladj> -.-
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#77 [00:20] <ilikellamas> I have a Mac and can't play Minecraft on browser. I'm new and need to somehow get on browser. Please help!!
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#80 [00:23] <niel> anyone need help?
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#85 [00:26] <elporter22> When I try to load my Minecraft, it comes to the Mojang screen and then it says that Minecraft has encountered a problem and failed to start. How do I fix this?
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#88 [00:29] <dylanisawesome1> hello, can someone help me with minecraft classic data protocol?
#89 [00:29] <dylanisawesome1> oh wait nvm, only current releases
#90 [00:29] <dylanisawesome1> sorry
#91 [00:30] <ddestroy8> When I try to login to minecraft through the launcher it says it cannot connect to minecraft.net. I have tried the forums telling me to tell to put something into the target of Java but nothing changes. How do I fix this?
#92 [00:31] <niel> umm
#93 [00:32] <niel> well you probly have a firewall
#94 [00:32] <ddestroy8> Would my Kaspersky anit virus do it?
#95 [00:32] <ddestroy8> *anti
#96 [00:32] <niel> mabye
#97 [00:32] <SinZ> ?? java/ipv6
#98 [00:33] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#99 [00:33] <SinZ> ^ this?
#100 [00:33] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
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#102 [00:36] <ddestroy8> It says that its not valid
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#120 [01:27] <frostic> anyone know anything about using command blocks to make a scoreboard? i have commandblocks turned on. commands like /say work but /scoreboard commands dont do anything at all. can someone help me fix this?
#121 [01:30] <Andrio> Is 11/gamerule commandBlockOutput true set?
#122 [01:30] <frostic> where do i set that?
#123 [01:30] <Andrio> type that as a command.
#124 [01:31] <frostic> i have them enables
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#126 [01:31] <frostic> ok wait
#127 [01:31] <frostic> still nothing
#128 [01:33] <frostic> in server.properties i have enable-command-block=true and i typed that command
#129 [01:33] <frostic> scoreboard still has no output :/
#130 [01:33] <Andrio> if commandBlockOutput is on, you should get messages in the chat when the command blocks activate.
#131 [01:35] <Andrio> What are you trying to do with a scoreboard?
#132 [01:35] <frostic> yes but im not. if i type /say @p hello it says hello to me
#133 [01:35] <frostic> to show the ppls health under their name
#134 [01:35] <Andrio> ok
#135 [01:36] <Andrio> You need to set up an 'objective' before you can use a scoreboard.
#136 [01:36] <Andrio> Have you done that?
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#139 [01:37] <Debomb72> Someone Know how to get a crash report to mojang?
#140 [01:37] <frostic> i typed /scoreboard objectives add health health health in a command block and put a button on it
#141 [01:37] <frostic> i missed some step maybe?
#142 [01:38] * Andrio tries it.
#142 [01:38] <Andrio> any output?
#143 [01:38] <frostic> none at all :/
#144 [01:39] <Andrio> ok
#145 [01:39] <Andrio> Does it work if you type the command in the chat?
#146 [01:39] <frostic> no it says unknown command
#147 [01:39] <Debomb72> Someone Know how to get a crash report to mojang?
#148 [01:39] <Andrio> frostic, what version of Minecraft do you have?
#149 [01:40] <frostic> Debomb72 you dont send it to mojang. you pastebin it and give the link in here
#150 [01:40] <frostic> 1.4.7
#151 [01:40] <Andrio> OK, there's your problem.
#152 [01:40] <frostic> there is a new version?
#153 [01:40] <Andrio> The scoreboard features weren't added until snapshot 13w04a.
#154 [01:41] <frostic> is that an older minecraft or i need an update?
#155 [01:41] <Andrio> Well, it's a prerelease, so if you do a force update, you won't get it.
#156 [01:42] <Andrio> search on Google for 15Minecraft 13w04a ^_^
#157 [01:42] <Andrio> or, better, 13w05a.
#158 [01:43] <frostic> aaa ok when they will add this to the main minecraft?
#159 [01:43] <Andrio> When version 1.5 comes out.
#160 [01:43] <frostic> awesome
#161 [01:44] <frostic> i need it NOW lol
#162 [01:44] <Debomb72> http://pastebin.com/u1j1iD9p
#163 [01:44] <Andrio> so get the snapshot. ^_^
#164 [01:44] <frostic> i am going to get it and try it out thankyou :)
#165 [01:46] <frostic> ??mods
#166 [01:46] <frostic> ??>mods
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#168 [01:46] <frostic> hmmm they removed it?
#169 [01:47] <Andrio> ?? mods
#170 [01:47] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#171 [01:47] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#172 [01:47] <frostic> Debomb72 seems modloader is having issues. the last plugin you added mkessed it up
#173 [01:47] <Debomb72> ok
#174 [01:48] <frostic> thats why ppl in here dont support modded clients but sometimes you can get help :)
#175 [01:49] <Debomb72> heh wrong place to come then :P
#176 [01:49] <Debomb72> thank you for the help
#177 [01:49] <Debomb72> thank you for the help
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#179 [01:49] <frostic> thankyou Andrio for the help. its working on my test server. this is freaking epic
#180 [01:49] <Andrio> :-)
#181 [01:49] <Andrio> Apparently Sethbling's working on adding scoreboards to his Super Craft Bros. map
#182 [01:50] <frostic> nice :D
#183 [01:50] <Andrio> I can hardly wait to see that when it's done. ^_^
#184 [01:51] <frostic> i love his creations. i know nothing about gates or stuff but i seem to be a natural and making redstone. if i read about it i might be as good as seth someday lol
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#186 [01:52] <tyteen4a03> ??> frostic bot/help
#187 [01:52] <VoxelHead> frostic: (bot/help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#188 [01:52] <VoxelHead> frostic: (bot/help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#189 [01:52] <tyteen4a03> frostic, also, please refrain from giving mods support in this channel, I don't want to make newcomers the impression that we support mods here
#190 [01:53] <tyteen4a03> *give
#191 [01:55] <frostic> ya i used to help in here tyteen4a03 till grim told me to leave because i gave an opinion about some guys computer. i told him to upgrade and he told me to leave the channel. and im not giving mod support. i read his error report and seen its a mod issue... hows that a problem?
#192 [01:55] <frostic> anyways i better leave befor i get banned for helping ppl!
#193 [01:55] <tyteen4a03> frostic, not sure what happened between you and Grim_Reaper, and just a reminder
#194 [01:55] <tyteen4a03> frostic, not sure what happened between you and Grim_Reaper, and just a reminder
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#196 [01:56] <tyteen4a03> his name is familiar but I can't seem to remember what he did
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#204 [02:31] <Guest____> hello could some one answer my question?
#205 [02:32] <Guest____> it keeps saying everytime i try to purchase minecraft "Did you know that if you've already bought Minecraft you can import your existing profile into this account?If you do, you should start using your Mojang account e-mail as username when logging in." and i know for a fact i havnt bought an account ive also tried making an alternate email just to purchase the game and i still got the following message any suggestions?
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#207 [02:33] <Guest____> anyone?
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#209 [02:34] <Guest____> k thanks for not helping anyone
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#218 [03:03] <tyteen4a03> cestislife, directing him to here then not answering his question? :P
#219 [03:03] <cestislife> I was busy >_>
#220 [03:05] <tyteen4a03> cestislife, oh fine :<
#221 [03:05] <cestislife> What I was thinking that he'll get more help if he asked here rather than #mcf
#222 [03:06] <tyteen4a03> cestislife, but as you can clearly say, we have 2 busy +/@ and nobody else :P
#223 [03:06] <tyteen4a03> *see
#224 [03:06] * sugoi suggests we prefix `-cestislife`
#224 [03:06] <cestislife> >.<
#225 [03:07] <tyteen4a03> that makes us 3
#226 [03:07] <cestislife> ?
#227 [03:07] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, now you're just being mean
#228 [03:07] <sugoi> hehe
#229 [03:07] <sugoi> hugs for all, time for sleep, laters
#230 [03:07] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, aww, I wanted that to be your 5 minute punishment
#231 [03:07] <tyteen4a03> oh well, VoxelHead made that a one second one
#232 [03:07] <tyteen4a03> by sugoi
#233 [03:07] <tyteen4a03> *bye
#234 [03:08] * cestislife is confused
#234 [03:08] <tyteen4a03> cestislife, if you have a hard time following my logic, read carefully (or you just don't get it)
#235 [03:08] <cestislife> I know, you meant I should've said something about people might be busy.
#236 [03:09] <cestislife> Sorry >_>
#237 [03:09] <tyteen4a03> cestislife, what
#238 [03:09] <tyteen4a03> cestislife, I never did
#239 [03:09] <cestislife> "cestislife, but as you can clearly say, we have 2 busy +/@ and nobody else :P"
#240 [03:09] <cestislife> .-.
#241 [03:09] <tyteen4a03> cestislife, oh
#242 [03:10] <cestislife> Anywayysss
#243 [03:10] <cestislife> I still think the ?? ask factoid should be like
#244 [03:10] <cestislife> a join notice
#245 [03:11] <cestislife> Er wait no
#246 [03:11] <tyteen4a03> cestislife, probably, because it is IRC culture
#247 [03:11] <cestislife> Not the ask factoid.
#248 [03:11] <cestislife> The patience one.
#249 [03:11] <cestislife> Most people are not accostumed to IRC culture, but yeah.
#250 [03:11] <cestislife> Just putting that out there.
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#253 [03:23] <Louis> Hello all. I have bought minecraft recently and I'm having problems with crash and freezing. My computer is the newest macbook pro. Can I do anything about it?
#254 [03:24] <cestislife> Did it provide a crash log?
#255 [03:24] <Louis> ehr..not sure. Dont think so.
#256 [03:25] <cestislife> Did you try to reinstall the game?
#257 [03:25] <Louis> No
#258 [03:25] <cestislife> ??> Louis mac/reinst
#259 [03:25] <VoxelHead> Louis: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#260 [03:25] <VoxelHead> Louis: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#261 [03:26] <Louis> ok. super. thnx a lot
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#263 [03:32] <Louis> Hello again. I got so far as to the Application support. Should there be a minecraft folder in there?
#264 [03:33] <cestislife> Yes there should
#265 [03:33] <cestislife> But do note that there are 2 Application Support folders, as I recall
#266 [03:33] <cestislife> ??> Louis mac/.minecraft
#267 [03:33] <VoxelHead> Louis: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#268 [03:34] <Louis> when I select home from the go menu theres no library folder
#269 [03:34] <cestislife> I'm not too familiar with a Mac .-.
#270 [03:34] <cestislife> Oh but I have an idea
#271 [03:35] <cestislife> Launch the Minecraft launcher
#272 [03:35] <cestislife> Cick on Options
#273 [03:35] <cestislife> and there should be a link in there to you minecraft folder
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#275 [03:35] <YinTaiYang> would i be allowed to use the minecraft logo in my youtube thumbnails
#276 [03:36] <Louis> ill try this thnx
#277 [03:36] <tyteen4a03> YinTaiYang, as I've mentioned before, use your common sense
#278 [03:36] <YinTaiYang> In general i just wanna ask one more time
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#280 [03:37] <eriiie> hello!
#281 [03:37] <tyteen4a03> hi eriiie
#282 [03:37] <eriiie> the seeds on latest snapshots are bugged!
#283 [03:37] <eriiie> they "pop out" randomly
#284 [03:38] <cestislife> Okay.
#285 [03:38] <eriiie> so i cant plant them normally :(
#286 [03:38] <cestislife> File a bug report on the bug tracker then? :o
#287 [03:38] <eriiie> carrots and potatoes are ok but not seeds..
#288 [03:38] <tyteen4a03> eriiie, read the topic
#289 [03:38] <eriiie> where is the tracker? :)
#290 [03:38] <cestislife> https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC
#291 [03:38] <cestislife> ^
#292 [03:38] <eriiie> oh thanks! :)
#293 [03:39] <tyteen4a03> eriiie, also, we don't support snapshots
#294 [03:39] <eriiie> but its good for developers to know for final release! :)
#295 [03:40] <tyteen4a03> eriiie, next time when you find a bug, please use the JIRA
#296 [03:40] <eriiie> what is JIRA?:)
#297 [03:41] <eriiie> im not familliar with this system haha :(
#298 [03:41] <tyteen4a03> eriiie, JIRA is the name of Mojang's Bug Tracker system
#299 [03:41] <tyteen4a03> eriiie, JIRA is the name of Mojang's Bug Tracker system
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#301 [03:41] <eriiie> oh ok! :) thanks for the help!
#302 [03:42] <eriiie> check out my youtube channel for great hopper system like transporting and sorting, also transporting from nether to normal world! "mreriiie" on youtube! :)
#303 [03:42] <cestislife> *ehem*
#304 [03:42] <cestislife> No advertising.
#305 [03:43] <eriiie> bye all! :)
#306 [03:43] <eriiie> bye all! :)
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#308 [03:43] <Louis> I cant find the minecraft folder:(
#309 [03:43] <tyteen4a03> Louis, what operating system are you on?
#310 [03:43] <cestislife> MAc
#311 [03:44] <tyteen4a03> ??> Louis mac/.minecraft
#312 [03:44] <VoxelHead> Louis: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#313 [03:44] <cestislife> IIRC there is like 2 Application Support folders.
#314 [03:44] <cestislife> He must have found the wrong one.
#315 [03:45] <tyteen4a03> cestislife, /lion
#316 [03:45] <tyteen4a03> otherwise yes, there could be two
#317 [03:45] <cestislife> Again
#318 [03:46] <cestislife> I must say I'm very unfamiliar with macs
#319 [03:46] <cestislife> >.<
#320 [03:47] <tyteen4a03> cestislife, you will pick up some mac knowledge over time
#321 [03:48] <cestislife> The gatekeeper fix I know
#322 [03:48] <Louis> well I cant find it..
#323 [03:48] <Louis> :(
#324 [03:48] <tyteen4a03> ??> Louis mac/.minecraft/lion
#325 [03:48] <VoxelHead> Louis: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
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#327 [03:52] <tyteen4a03> .help
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#329 [03:52] <tyteen4a03> !help
#330 [03:52] <tyteen4a03> ~help
#331 [03:52] <tyteen4a03> eh, I forgot how GreyBot ticks
#332 [03:52] <Necrodoom> !tutorial
#333 [03:52] <VoxelHead> Minecraft Tutorial 01 (v2) - How to Survive your First Night (Enhanced Version!) ( by paulsoaresjr )
#334 [03:58] <Louis> Now I ve tried to type Shift+Command+G in finder and type the path. It is says the folder doesnt exist?
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#337 [04:10] <Calvin_> hi,i want to purchase the account, it says my account is closed.
#338 [04:10] <Calvin_> what can i do/
#339 [04:12] <Calvin_> ??
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#351 [04:50] <nazlif> hi!
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#353 [04:51] <nazlif> my
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#355 [04:53] <nazlif> what are the minimum requirements for running Minecraft?
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#357 [04:55] <cestislife> ?? requirements
#358 [04:55] <VoxelHead> requirements: Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements, which are belied by its retro style. http://is.gd/mc_requirements
#359 [04:55] <cestislife> nazlif: ^
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#361 [04:58] <nazlif> it seems that my computer stand within all these requirements but the game refuses to download. whenever I try to download, the computer makes a sound and nothing happens.
#362 [04:59] <cestislife> You are on Windows yes?
#363 [04:59] <cestislife> And you are downloading using which browser?
#364 [05:00] <nazlif> yes, XP. Gogle Chrome
#365 [05:01] <cestislife> ??> nazlif win/client
#366 [05:01] <VoxelHead> nazlif: (win/client) https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#367 [05:01] <nazlif> same, same
#368 [05:02] <cestislife> Try a different browser?
#369 [05:03] <nazlif> I tried windows and chrome. it does look like the problem.
#370 [05:04] <Necrodoom> what is the sound the computer makes?
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#372 [05:06] <nazlif> "Critical Stop"
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#380 [05:17] <yoshi> Hi, im trying to learn about enchanting. could I get someones ear for a bit?
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#383 [05:18] <yoshi> my current goal is to get a flame enchantment on a bow, butt im burning through xp trying to land on it
#384 [05:18] <yoshi> i was hoping an understanding of the enchanting mechanics would help me numerically slim the odds
#385 [05:19] <cestislife> yoshi: Enchanting is very much very random
#386 [05:19] <yoshi> iv come to realize this
#387 [05:19] <Necrodoom> you tried the minecraft wiki?
#388 [05:19] <yoshi> yea, there was a section on the mechanics and levels, but it didnt make a lot of sense to me
#389 [05:19] <cestislife> Neither did it to be to be honest, haha.
#390 [05:19] <yoshi> i was hoping a human could help me work through it, u know
#391 [05:20] <Necrodoom> its pretty much chance
#392 [05:20] <cestislife> My take on enchanting, find a way to get EXP fast, and efficently, mostly through mobfarms.
#393 [05:20] <cestislife> Then enchant bows until you find a good one on it.
#394 [05:20] <Necrodoom> though you could save the enchants to enchantbooks
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#396 [05:20] <Necrodoom> i think
#397 [05:20] <cestislife> That'll actually lower your chances of getting something specific though.
#398 [05:20] <Necrodoom> se
#399 [05:20] <yoshi> there has to be some way i can atleast identify the odds of landing on a specific enchantment
#400 [05:20] <yoshi> yea, the pool books choose from is much larger than the pool for bows
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#402 [05:21] <Necrodoom> you want the chance to getting flame enchant?
#403 [05:21] <cestislife> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enchantment_mechanics#How_Enchantments_Are_Chosen
#404 [05:21] <yoshi> more specificly, im after the reasoning on how to derive the chance for mods in general
#405 [05:21] <yoshi> yea i already went over that page, and like i said, it was mostly greek
#406 [05:21] <cestislife> heh
#407 [05:22] <cestislife> Well from that info, Flame has a weight of 2, to be chosen as the enchantment.
#408 [05:22] <cestislife> It's very slim.
#409 [05:22] <cestislife> ah and i have to go
#410 [05:22] <yoshi> alright, thanks for the help
#411 [05:22] <yoshi> i tried using the formula on that page, but iv got a feeling im plugging in the wrong variables
#412 [05:23] <nazlif> guys, any chance for some help?
#413 [05:23] <yoshi> my understanding is that the modified enchantment level, the level uv got to pay for the enchant = your items enchantment conductivity, 1 for wood
#414 [05:23] <yoshi> err, bows
#415 [05:24] <yoshi> divided by 4, multiplied by 2, and added to one
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#417 [05:24] <yoshi> plus the basic level for the enchantment, which is where im fuzzy
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#420 [05:26] <yoshi> nazlif, whats your question?
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#422 [05:31] <yoshi> so im rereading the enchantment mechanics, and im not really sure how to derive the modified enchantment level
#423 [05:32] <yoshi> i dont have a base enchantment level to start from, unless im missing something, and im not sure what to make of the enchantability part
#424 [05:33] <yoshi> but if im understanding this, the variable for a bow should be between 0... 1/2, inclusive
#425 [05:34] <Necrodoom> yoshi: minecraft mechanics junk will burn your brain.
#426 [05:34] <yoshi> so i add that on to my base enchantment level, for the flame enchantment, and that 'should' give me the range in which ill find the flame enchantment
#427 [05:34] <Necrodoom> dont,
#428 [05:35] <yoshi> iv got a new perfect bow, and i just want to add a flame for icing on the cake
#429 [05:36] <yoshi> it shouldnt be this hard >.<
#430 [05:38] <yoshi> unless im using the wrong numbers here, the target enchantment level for flame on a bow should be, like, 19-21
#431 [05:39] <yoshi> but when hit a bow with that level of enchantment cost, i get random things like power 5 infinity 1
#432 [05:39] <Necrodoom> as said, its always random
#433 [05:39] <yoshi> which, dont get me wrong, are great things to end up with, but not what im after, and not what i should be getting
#434 [05:40] <yoshi> it /cant/ be that random
#435 [05:40] <yoshi> this is being done by a computer, and thus a set of instructions
#436 [05:40] <yoshi> if i know the instructions, even with the random variables im seeing used here, i should be able to at the very least produce a range
#437 [05:42] <yoshi> nothing in this or the computer world is 'random.' rolling a dice will always give u a number between 1-6. 100 dice is always 1-600
#438 [05:42] <yoshi> there are ways to find out how this stuff works, and its irking me that i can find it for this
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#440 [05:42] <Necrodoom> 100 dice result would be 100-600 o.o
#441 [05:43] <yoshi> sorry, typo
#442 [05:43] <yoshi> but my point stands
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#445 [05:45] <yoshi> so, really, none of you understand the code on the wiki page enough to explain it?
#446 [05:45] <yoshi> or atleast tell me what im doing wrong
#447 [05:45] <cestislife> It's mostly because I don't understand much of it.
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#449 [05:47] <yoshi> the page says minecraft runs some code to apply 2 modifiers to the base enchantment level. i think i know how to derive those modifiers, but i still dont know what the base enchantment level is
#450 [05:47] <yoshi> unless thats the 20-50 range i see on http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enchanting/Levels
#451 [05:47] <yoshi> cause if it is, im boned
#452 [05:48] <yoshi> no, those are tables with the modified levels
#453 [05:48] <yoshi> y do i feel like im largely talking to my self at this point
#454 [05:48] <DiskDaemon> Would you like graphs and charts of how the enchantment is randomly distributed?
#455 [05:49] <yoshi> actually, i wouldnt mind that. maybe iv i see it plotted i can make more sense from the formuli
#456 [05:49] <yoshi> if*
#457 [05:49] <DiskDaemon> Charts are at http://0xcafebabe.com/2012/05/minecraft-1-3-probabilities/
#458 [05:50] <DiskDaemon> For individual items, see http://pernsteiner.org/minecraft/enchant/tables/
#459 [05:51] <yoshi> this is perfect. this atleast tells me that flame is more probable then, say, infinite at 30
#460 [05:51] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#461 [05:51] <yoshi> i can actually work with this. thank you
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#470 [06:37] <Louis> Does anyone know how to uninstall minecraft completely? Im on a macbook pro.
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#488 [07:31] <luke_> hi i have bought minecraft today and when i play it it just shakes the screen
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#502 [09:01] <Thecount007> hi
#503 [09:06] <Thecount007> Ok my question is why is it when i go to log in to play minecraft it says fatal error occurred (4):(null)?
#504 [09:07] <Thecount007> there is no sad face by the waay
#505 [09:08] <Thecount007> force update doesnt work eithr
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#507 [09:08] <Thecount007> either
#508 [09:08] <INeedHelpWithMyLaptop> hi
#509 [09:09] <Thecount007> hey
#510 [09:09] <INeedHelpWithMyLaptop> um, i accidentally updated my graphics card, so how do i get the older version back?
#511 [09:09] <Thecount007> hmmm
#512 [09:10] <INeedHelpWithMyLaptop> i have a intel
#513 [09:10] <INeedHelpWithMyLaptop> inspiron
#514 [09:10] <Thecount007> what all have you tried so far?
#515 [09:10] <Thecount007> intel?
#516 [09:10] <Thecount007> ok
#517 [09:10] <INeedHelpWithMyLaptop> yeah
#518 [09:11] <INeedHelpWithMyLaptop> sooo...
#519 [09:11] <INeedHelpWithMyLaptop> do you know anything about it?
#520 [09:11] <Thecount007> i havent done that yet
#521 [09:11] <Thecount007> im looking though hang on
#522 [09:11] <INeedHelpWithMyLaptop> ok
#523 [09:11] <Thecount007> awww brb
#524 [09:11] <INeedHelpWithMyLaptop> np
#525 [09:11] <INeedHelpWithMyLaptop> ok
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#533 [09:16] <Thecount007> hello
#534 [09:16] <Thecount007> laptop have you tried formating your graphics card?
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#536 [09:16] <Thecount007> hello
#537 [09:17] <DonMusto> Hello
#538 [09:17] * Selbram|away is now known as Selbram
#539 [09:17] <Thecount007> what do you need help with?
#540 [09:17] <DonMusto> An issue with Skyblock server
#541 [09:17] <Thecount007> like....?
#542 [09:17] <DonMusto> I feel personally victimized by a mod
#543 [09:18] <Thecount007> ok what happened?
#544 [09:18] <DonMusto> Well, I told a guy to "shut up"
#545 [09:18] <DonMusto> ver batim
#546 [09:18] <DonMusto> and i was kicked
#547 [09:18] <DonMusto> so i told the mod that the kick was edging on abuse of power
#548 [09:18] <Thecount007> did he say something bad?
#549 [09:18] <DonMusto> the mod proceeded to essentially treat me like garbage
#550 [09:19] <DonMusto> and i continued to protest, without being insulting
#551 [09:19] <DonMusto> and he then banned me without warning
#552 [09:19] <Thecount007> is it a "No language server?
#553 [09:19] <Selbram> DonMusto, mojang has no control over what people do on their own servers
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#555 [09:19] <Thecount007> He banned you?!?!
#556 [09:19] <DonMusto> Oh yeah I know
#557 [09:19] <DonMusto> But thecount asked me what happened
#558 [09:19] <DonMusto> so I told him
#559 [09:19] <Selbram> k
#560 [09:19] <Thecount007> did you say something?
#561 [09:19] <DonMusto> its mcign.com
#562 [09:19] <Grim_Reaper> ?? mods
#563 [09:19] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#564 [09:19] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#565 [09:19] <DonMusto> and their "live chat" link linked here
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#567 [09:20] <DonMusto> so im just trying to figure it all out lol
#568 [09:20] <Thecount007> hmmm
#569 [09:20] <Grim_Reaper> Mojang has no control over what a server moderator does
#570 [09:20] <Thecount007> well i cant help you
#571 [09:20] <DonMusto> yeah i understand
#572 [09:20] <Thecount007> ya Grim
#573 [09:21] <Thecount007> so anything else?
#574 [09:21] <Grim_Reaper> Chances are, you'll need to take up the issue with the admin of the server, or find another to play on
#575 [09:21] <Thecount007> well he cant if hes banned
#576 [09:21] <Thecount007> Because he cant log into the server
#577 [09:21] <DonMusto> Yeah, I'll make an appeal on their forum
#578 [09:21] <Grim_Reaper> I know. But if the server has a site
#579 [09:21] <DonMusto> see what happens
#580 [09:22] <rymate1234> also complain about their live chat
#581 [09:22] <Thecount007> Don did he temp-ban
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#583 [09:22] <DonMusto> I really don't know
#584 [09:22] <DonMusto> It just said banned
#585 [09:23] <rymate1234> DonMusto, the live chat links to #mcign
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#587 [09:23] <rymate1234> I know because I just tried it
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#589 [09:23] <Thecount007> what?
#590 [09:23] <DonMusto> oh yeah i know
#591 [09:23] <DonMusto> no one is in there
#592 [09:23] <DonMusto> i was trying other rooms in hopes people would be there
#593 [09:24] <rymate1234> so why did you join here?
#594 [09:24] <Thecount007> what did i miss?
#595 [09:24] <DonMusto> little did i realize this server is utilized by all of minecraft
#596 [09:24] <rymate1234> DonMusto, not just minecraft
#597 [09:24] <rymate1234> lmao
#598 [09:24] <DonMusto> well
#599 [09:24] <DonMusto> even moreso then
#600 [09:24] <DonMusto> lol
#601 [09:24] <rymate1234> just mostly minecraft
#602 [09:24] <Thecount007> so can anyone help me?
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#604 [09:25] <Selbram> What is your issue Thecount007
#605 [09:25] <rymate1234> ^
#606 [09:26] <Thecount007> Ok i am using a new computer and i downloaded minecraft, When i try to run it it instantly pops up an update. If i click update it says "Fatal error occurred (4) : (null)
#607 [09:27] <Selbram> disable your antivirus
#608 [09:27] <Grim_Reaper> Isn't that caused by internet explorer being set to offline mode o_O
#609 [09:27] <Thecount007> if i click not now it freezes at about 95%
#610 [09:27] <DonMusto> lol Internext Explorer
#611 [09:28] <Thecount007> well i now use mozilla not internet explorer
#612 [09:28] <rymate1234> internet explorer isn't too bad on IE10
#613 [09:28] <rymate1234> its not the best, certainly
#614 [09:28] <Grim_Reaper> Thecount007 I suggest checking incase it's set to offline though.
#615 [09:28] <Grim_Reaper> As it can cause issues with some programs
#616 [09:28] <Thecount007> ok now....
#617 [09:28] <rymate1234> but it isn't the horrible, toolbar ridden mess IE8 was
#618 [09:28] <Thecount007> how do i do that?
#619 [09:28] <Grim_Reaper> Also as Selbram said, try disabling any anti virus
#620 [09:28] <Grim_Reaper> Open internet explorer
#621 [09:28] <Thecount007> ok
#622 [09:29] <Grim_Reaper> And under the settings. There should be a work offline button or something
#623 [09:29] <DonMusto> I don't know about you guys but I'm still running Netscape Communicator
#624 [09:29] <Grim_Reaper> Make sure it's without a "tick"
#625 [09:29] <DonMusto> best browser ever
#626 [09:29] <Grim_Reaper> Firefox is what I prefer to use
#627 [09:29] <Thecount007> ok hang on
#628 [09:29] <Thecount007> me too
#629 [09:29] <rymate1234> nah
#630 [09:29] <rymate1234> chrome ftw
#631 [09:30] <Thecount007> ok
#632 [09:30] <DonMusto> Netscape Communicator + AOL Dialup + Windows ME = ftw
#633 [09:30] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#634 [09:30] <Thecount007> im not stupid but for some reason i cant find thte settings... i use windows 7
#635 [09:31] <Thecount007> *the
#636 [09:31] <Grim_Reaper> Thecount007 just a moment and I'll take a screeny where the setting is
#637 [09:31] <Thecount007> ok thanks
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#641 [09:31] <Thecount007> ?
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#645 [09:32] <Thecount007> what the?!?
#646 [09:33] <Grim_Reaper> Thecount007 press alt + f
#647 [09:33] <Grim_Reaper> in IE
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#649 [09:33] <Thecount007> ok
#650 [09:33] <Thecount007> i did
#651 [09:34] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/4fkz9iq.png
#652 [09:34] <Grim_Reaper> It should look like that
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#654 [09:34] <Thecount007> ok i found it
#655 [09:34] <Grim_Reaper> Was there a tick by it?
#656 [09:34] <Thecount007> no it loooked just like yours
#657 [09:34] <Grim_Reaper> Alright
#658 [09:35] <Grim_Reaper> Try disabling your anti virus for a short while, and make sure to run the launcher as Administrator > Right click it > Run as admin
#659 [09:35] <Thecount007> ok my anti virus is macaffee
#660 [09:35] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah try disabling it
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#662 [09:36] <Thecount007> ok
#663 [09:37] <Thecount007> I cant find where to disable it
#664 [09:37] <Grim_Reaper> Give me a min and I'll find out for you
#665 [09:37] <Thecount007> ok thx
#666 [09:38] <Thecount007> ok i ran as an admin but it still dont work
#667 [09:38] <Bob> When I try to go multi-player on my local LAN, it assigns me an IP address of 0.0.0.0.12345 and no one else can see the game. Using McAfee and windows firewall. What can I change?
#668 [09:38] <Grim_Reaper> https://community.mcafee.com/thread/46879 this may help you Thecount007
#669 [09:38] <clarjon1> oh, macaffeee
#670 [09:38] <Thecount007> ok thtx
#671 [09:38] <Grim_Reaper> Bob, you need to edit the server settings file in order to host a server that other people can join
#672 [09:39] <Thecount007> found it
#673 [09:39] <Thecount007> its loading
#674 [09:39] <Grim_Reaper> The game?
#675 [09:39] <Thecount007> no Mcaffee
#676 [09:39] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh oky
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#678 [09:40] <Thecount007> dang takes forever
#679 [09:40] <Grim_Reaper> hehe
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#681 [09:40] <Thecount007> lol
#682 [09:40] <Bob> Is there docs to help me change server settings file?
#683 [09:41] <Grim_Reaper> Assuming you're running the actual exe/jar file for the server. It will generate a file called server.conf
#684 [09:41] <Grim_Reaper> Which you can edit with notepad
#685 [09:41] <Grim_Reaper> You will need to change the IP and such to be able to connect
#686 [09:41] <Bob> Thanks - I'll hunt for it
#687 [09:41] <Grim_Reaper> If you still have issues finding it, let me know
#688 [09:41] <lc3> Hello all... I just updated Java to version 7 update 15 and now Minecraft won't run... says I need Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0... does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks.
#689 [09:42] <Thecount007> mine did that too
#690 [09:42] <Grim_Reaper> lc3, it's unwise to use java 1.7 as it has a lot of known security issues
#691 [09:42] <Grim_Reaper> You will need to uninstall all current java version(s) on your computer
#692 [09:42] <Grim_Reaper> Then go back and install java 1.6
#693 [09:42] <Grim_Reaper> ?? java/1.6
#694 [09:42] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#695 [09:42] <Grim_Reaper> If you have 64bit operating system, install both 32bit and 64bit versions
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#697 [09:43] <lc3> OK thank you so much! Weird that the old version is more secure.
#698 [09:43] <Thecount007> haha
#699 [09:43] <Grim_Reaper> Oh and after reinstalling
#700 [09:43] <Grim_Reaper> Please restart your pc before running MC
#701 [09:43] <Grim_Reaper> SHOULD fix it
#702 [09:44] <lc3> Thank you! Going to do that now.
#703 [09:44] <lc3> Thank you! Going to do that now.
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#705 [09:44] <Grim_Reaper> Sure. :3
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#707 [09:46] <Thecount007> my Mcaffee is
#708 [09:46] <Thecount007> 5.2.3
#709 [09:47] <Grim_Reaper> Should still be basically the same to disable it
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#711 [09:47] <Grim_Reaper> If not, I'll find a more... recent thread
#712 [09:47] <Thecount007> ok ithnk i disabled it
#713 [09:47] <Grim_Reaper> Alrighty
#714 [09:47] <Grim_Reaper> Try running MC as admin now
#715 [09:48] <Thecount007> YES
#716 [09:48] <Thecount007> its working!
#717 [09:48] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#718 [09:48] <Grim_Reaper> Glad to hear it sir
#719 [09:48] <Thecount007> Thanks so much
#720 [09:48] <Grim_Reaper> Anytime ^^
#721 [09:49] <Thecount007> :3 i can now play :)
#722 [09:49] <Grim_Reaper> =]
#723 [09:49] <Thecount007> wow thats a gay smily
#724 [09:49] <Thecount007> lol
#725 [09:49] <Thecount007> reminds me of a girl
#726 [09:49] <Grim_Reaper> Who said I was a guy :o
#727 [09:49] <Thecount007> ?
#728 [09:50] <LilLucy> Just cause Im the Grim Reaper doesn't mean Im a guy :p
#729 [09:50] <Thecount007> never said?
#730 [09:50] <LilLucy> Sounded like you implied it lol
#731 [09:50] <Thecount007> oh ok lol
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#733 [09:50] <Thecount007> so.. your a girl?
#734 [09:51] <LilLucy> Tis a secret :3
#735 [09:51] <Thecount007> you know what? none of me buisness
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#737 [09:51] <LilLucy> lol
#738 [09:51] <Thecount007> spelled it wrong :3
#739 [09:51] <Thecount007> k so now i enable mcaffe now?
#740 [09:52] <LilLucy> Yeah
#741 [09:52] <Thecount007> Ok cool
#742 [09:52] <Thecount007> Thanks a bunch though
#743 [09:52] <LilLucy> Assuming it works, you might just be able to add Minecraft to the mcaffe's allowed to run list or something instead of having to disable it
#744 [09:52] <Thecount007> ok
#745 [09:53] <LilLucy> But yeah not sure
#746 [09:53] <Thecount007> dont need to
#747 [09:53] <Thecount007> i enbled it closed minecraft and it works
#748 [09:53] <Thecount007> *enabled
#749 [09:54] <Thecount007> Well im happy now
#750 [09:54] <LilLucy> Hehe :3
#751 [09:54] <Thecount007> :D
#752 [09:54] <Thecount007> woah
#753 [09:54] <Thecount007> too much teeth
#754 [09:54] <Thecount007> lolz
#755 [09:54] <Thecount007> also...
#756 [09:55] <Thecount007> do you know how to install mods?
#757 [09:55] <LilLucy> Not off the top of my head. But there is a usually a tutorial on the minecraft forums with said mod that you want to install
#758 [09:55] <Thecount007> ive tried the way where you delete the META-INF folder
#759 [09:55] <LilLucy> Mhm
#760 [09:56] <Thecount007> but it kinda failed
#761 [09:56] <LilLucy> Generally, you place said mod files in the minecraft.jar, delete the META-INF and run MC from what I understand. But thats as far as my knowledge on mods go
#762 [09:56] <Thecount007> well i kinda did that back wards
#763 [09:57] <Thecount007> i left minecraft running then deleted META-INF then placed the class files
#764 [09:57] <LilLucy> That would explain it..
#765 [09:57] <LilLucy> lol
#766 [09:57] <Thecount007> thats what utube said to do lol
#767 [09:57] <LilLucy> lol
#768 [09:58] <Thecount007> i was doing the Xray modand the too many items to troll friends
#769 [09:58] <Thecount007> lol but i couldnt
#770 [09:58] <linomf> hallo
#771 [09:59] <Thecount007> hey
#772 [09:59] <linomf> germay?
#773 [09:59] <Thecount007> no sorry
#774 [09:59] <Thecount007> eglish
#775 [09:59] <linomf> :/
#776 [09:59] <Thecount007> english
#777 [09:59] <linomf> wait
#778 [09:59] <Thecount007> try to use google translate to tell your problem
#779 [10:00] <Thecount007> i dont know if you understood what i just said though :/
#780 [10:00] <Thecount007> anyone here met antvenom or sky?
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#783 [10:03] <linomf> I forgot my password and the email with the password I signed up
#784 [10:03] <linomf> :(
#785 [10:04] <linomf> So what should I do
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#788 [10:06] <linomf> hello
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#792 [10:07] <cerg24> How can I save the skin of my character from the web site on my computer. Due to the loss of data on your computer.
#793 [10:08] <cerg24> How can I save the skin of my character from the web site on my computer. Due to the loss of data on your computer.
#794 [10:10] <cerg24> How can I save the skin of my character from the web site on my computer. Due to the loss of data on your computer.
#795 [10:11] <oldtopman> ??> linomf scold/pm
#796 [10:11] <VoxelHead> linomf: (scold/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#797 [10:12] <cerg24> How can I save the skin of my character from the web site on my computer. Due to the loss of data on your computer.
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#800 [10:16] <cerg24> How can I save the skin of my character from the web site on my computer. Due to the loss of data on your computer.
#801 [10:16] <cerg24> How can I save the skin of my character from the web site on my computer. Due to the loss of data on your computer.
#802 [10:16] <cerg24> How can I save the skin of my character from the web site on my computer. Due to the loss of data on your computer.
#803 [10:16] <cerg24> How can I save the skin of my character from the web site on my computer. Due to the loss of data on your computer.
#804 [10:16] <cerg24> How can I save the skin of my character from the web site on my computer. Due to the loss of data on your computer.
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#808 [10:23] <crashes> The game worked fine yesterday. Today it opens, but after about 1 minute of gaming it crashes.
#809 [10:23] <o0zmz720o0> need help any GM in here?
#810 [10:24] <niel> yawn
#811 [10:24] <niel> Crashes: firce update
#812 [10:24] <niel> *force
#813 [10:24] <Grim_Reaper> ??> crashes forceupdate
#814 [10:24] <VoxelHead> crashes: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#815 [10:24] <VoxelHead> crashes: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#820 [10:28] <o0zmz720o0> @hel phelp
#821 [10:28] <Grim_Reaper> o0zmz720o0 what is your issue
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#824 [10:28] <o0zmz720o0> have purchase gift pack via credit card
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#826 [10:29] <Grim_Reaper> Where did you buy from?
#827 [10:29] <o0zmz720o0> and when i click the moneybooker thing i got stucked
#828 [10:29] <o0zmz720o0> skrill
#829 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> Please only buy online via mojang.com
#830 [10:30] <Morrolan> Skrill is Moneybookers.
#831 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> Oh
#832 [10:30] <Morrolan> Yes, made that mistake too, once or twice. :D
#833 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#834 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> o0zmz720o0 is there an error?
#835 [10:30] <o0zmz720o0> yeah the page doesn't load
#836 [10:31] <o0zmz720o0> how can i get the transaction code
#837 [10:31] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe try a different browser?
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#840 [10:31] <o0zmz720o0> already tied moz and google chrome
#841 [10:31] <o0zmz720o0> tried"
#842 [10:32] <o0zmz720o0> i even tried IE
#843 [10:32] <Grim_Reaper> hmm... Not sure. Maybe something is blocking the page like an anti virus or your internet connection maybe o.O?
#844 [10:33] <o0zmz720o0> i have thought about it already and temporarily disabled anti virus and anti spyware
#845 [10:33] <o0zmz720o0> is there a purchase division thing?
#846 [10:33] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe email mojang and see if they can't help you with the payment issue
#847 [10:33] <Grim_Reaper> ?? mojang/email
#848 [10:33] <VoxelHead> mojang/email: You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#849 [10:34] <o0zmz720o0> ok will try
#850 [10:34] <o0zmz720o0> tnx man
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#852 [10:35] <Grim_Reaper> Goodluck
#853 [10:36] <Morrolan> o0zmz720o0: Tried paying through PayPal already?
#854 [10:37] <Morrolan> And, @channel - What is the most complicated crafting recipe in vanilla Minecraft?
#855 [10:39] <Morrolan> o0zmz720o0: In case you haven't already - if you select "pay with PayPal", there'll be an option along the lines of "Pay as a guest / without a PayPal account".
#856 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan.. I would say the beacon
#857 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> Since the boss mob is quite hard to kill last I checked >_>
#858 [10:41] <Morrolan> Ah, yes, but when it comes to nested recipes, I mean. (e.g. cake requires sugar, sugar requires sugar cane, that'd be two levels)
#859 [10:42] <Andrio> Sugar cane -> paper -> books -> bookshelves
#860 [10:43] <Morrolan> Ah, that might be it, thanks. :)
#861 [10:43] <Andrio> also, wood -> planks -> bookshelves
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#863 [10:43] <Rascabuche> Money back
#864 [10:44] <Rascabuche> How can I get my money back
#865 [10:45] <Morrolan> To answer your question - there is a formular on http://help.mojang.com through which you can contact Mojang for a refund, provided you bought it recently.
#866 [10:45] <Morrolan> How come you are interested in ar efund, though?
#867 [10:45] <Morrolan> a refund*
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#893 [11:29] <DanBleu2> Sorry to bother you all again but what is an "openGL mode" since the screen was saying that since I last updated java recently today.
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#902 [11:47] <benhunter09> !login
#903 [11:47] <benhunter09> Hmm
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#906 [11:52] <riley> tryin
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#925 [12:55] <coolcat146s0> I had a minecraft account that was working fine but when my brother bought another account for himself mine stopped working when i try to logon it says login failed why is that?
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#927 [12:57] <coolcat146s0> we've payed for two account but can only use one
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#930 [13:04] <Corin> SO
#931 [13:04] <Corin> It's extremely random when it happens but I keep getting the error
#932 [13:04] <Corin> [SEVERE] java.io.IOException: Invalid book tag!
#933 [13:04] <Corin> There seems to be no pattern anywhere and it's just... random.
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#940 [13:33] <blackalegator> Hello
#941 [13:33] <blackalegator> Could someone help me a bit? I need to hook server chat message or CustomPayload packet using ModLoader.
#942 [13:33] <Morrolan> Might want to prod #risucraft :)
#943 [13:34] <blackalegator> #bukkit->#minecraft->#minecrafthelp, now ->risucraft ...
#944 [13:34] <Morrolan> Well, #bukkit is about Bukkit, #minecraft is about all things EXCEPT Minecraft, #minecrafthelp is mostly about vanilla. :)
#945 [13:35] <Morrolan> Modding people can be found in #risucraft, #mcp, #mcp-modding, #minecraftforge and probably other channels I don't know.
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#947 [13:36] <katiebugb> When game appears after loading, the video is jumpy and character can't move.
#948 [13:38] <blackalegator> They are talking about anime on #risucraft ;-(
#949 [13:39] <katiebugb> im in the wrong place for tech support for minecraft PC version?
#950 [13:39] <Morrolan> Yea, just like #minecraft, #risucraft is as often about other things as it is about modding, blackalegator. Just ask again in an hour or so. ;)
#951 [13:40] <katiebugb> thank you
#952 [13:40] <Morrolan> katiebugb - Press F3, and check how many FPS you get. (top left corner)
#953 [13:40] <Morrolan> katiebugb - No, you are not in the wrong place here, that messages was to blackalegator.
#954 [13:42] <Necrodoom> Morrolan: didnt #risucraft guys said its no longer a mod support channel?
#955 [13:42] <Necrodoom> he should go to modloader forums/thread if anything
#956 [13:43] <Morrolan> Necrodoom - /topic claims otherwise, no clue though.
#957 [13:43] <katiebugb> I pressed F3 and what is suppose to happen?
#958 [13:43] <Morrolan> Some text should have appeared.
#959 [13:44] <Morrolan> Top left corner should show you how many FPS you get.
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#961 [13:44] <Morrolan> Unless that was removed from vanilla Minecraft, not sure, haven't played it for too long.
#962 [13:44] <katiebugb> No, in top left corner I'm getting menu status #minecrafthelp and opeions
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#964 [13:45] <passivehero> I bought minecraft and have not gotten my email!
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#966 [13:45] <Morrolan> katiebugb - Oh, press F3 when inside Minecraft, I meant.
#967 [13:46] <Morrolan> passivehero - WHen you sign in to https://account.mojang.com/me does it list Minecraft under 'My Games'?
#968 [13:46] <Guest65151> i have minecraft i went into settings and fullscreen mode off and it crashed and whatever i do it will not let me play
#969 [13:46] <passivehero> no
#970 [13:46] <Morrolan> passivehero - How did you pay?
#971 [13:46] <Guest65151> <end427>
#972 [13:46] <Morrolan> Guest65151 - What operating system are you on? Windows, Mac, Linux?
#973 [13:47] <Guest65151> windows
#974 [13:47] <katiebugb> oh ok
#975 [13:47] <Guest65151> my screen goes black every time it tries to load
#976 [13:47] <passivehero> visa gift card
#977 [13:47] <Morrolan> ??> Guest65151 win/.minecraft
#978 [13:47] <VoxelHead> Guest65151: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#979 [13:48] <katiebugb> I get between 24 to 30 fps
#980 [13:48] <Morrolan> Guest65151 - In the folder which VoxelHead told you about is a file called 'options.txt', delete that one, then start Minecraft again.
#981 [13:48] <Morrolan> Guest65151 - This should reset to the default options.
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#983 [13:48] <Guest65151> thanks
#984 [13:48] <Morrolan> passivehero - Prepaid credit cards very, very rarely work for international transfers. You'll have to contact the number on the back of that card, and ask them to unlock it for international transfers.
#985 [13:49] <Morrolan> katiebugb - Yet the video is stuttery? That is odd.
#986 [13:49] <passivehero> umm...ok how do i do that??
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#989 [13:50] <katiebugb> It works fine on the demo version but when I create a new world, it stutters. I've tried everything I could think of in the options menu.
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#992 [13:51] <Morrolan> passivehero - Do you know how to use a phone? :D
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#994 [13:51] <Morrolan> passivehero - If yes, there's most likely a phone number on the back of that card.
#995 [13:51] <Morrolan> katiebugb - If you don't move too far, does it get better after a while?
#996 [13:51] <passivehero> Oh. Ok I see it. Man what a pain.
#997 [13:52] <katiebugb> No, I can't move.
#998 [13:52] <Morrolan> Yea, credit card providers are a bit paranoid at times, passivehero. ;)
#999 [13:52] <Morrolan> "He's buying something oversees, must mean he's buying biological weapons!"
#1000 [13:52] <Morrolan> overseas*
#1001 [13:53] <passivehero> thanks for the help :)
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#1003 [13:53] <Morrolan> katiebugb - Hmm. Did you change anything in the controls?
#1004 [13:54] <katiebugb> like in up press the arrow up or drop to "d" something like that? Yes.
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#1007 [13:56] <Morrolan> Hmph.
#1008 [13:56] <Morrolan> If controls are non-functional, updating LWJGL might be worth a shot:
#1009 [13:56] <Morrolan> ?? java/lwjgl
#1010 [13:57] <VoxelHead> java/lwjgl: See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL for a guide on manually updating to a new version of LWJGL.
#1011 [13:58] <katiebugb> was the java/lwjgl or me to do or was that for someone else?
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#1013 [13:58] <Morrolan> '?? java/lwjgl" was me triggering the bot (VoxelHead) into saying the above.
#1014 [14:00] <Morrolan> (Spitting out the link with instructions on upgrading LWJGL manually)
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#1018 [14:02] <katiebugb> Morrolan - was I suppose to click on the link or was that for someone else to do?
#1019 [14:03] <Morrolan> Those were for you. LWJGL is the gaming library used by Minecraft, which also handles controls.
#1020 [14:03] <Morrolan> Updating it _might_ fix your issue.
#1021 [14:03] <katiebugb> Ok, I'll give it a try.
#1022 [14:04] <Lutzee> !login
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#1050 [14:47] <c2o> Hello.
#1051 [14:47] <trencheel303> 'lo
#1052 [14:47] <niel> hey
#1053 [14:47] <c2o> My MineCraft isn't working, do you think you could help me?
#1054 [14:47] <trencheel303> define not working
#1055 [14:48] <niel> ?? forceupdate
#1056 [14:48] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1057 [14:48] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#1059 [14:48] <c2o> Ok, whenever I login, it does everything up to the Mojang screen, and then everything turns black and my screen freezes.
#1060 [14:49] <trencheel303> ah yes the old black screen error, try what VoxelHead posted above
#1061 [14:49] <niel> try force update
#1062 [14:49] <niel> do this
#1063 [14:49] <niel> ?? forceupdate
#1064 [14:49] <trencheel303> VoxelHead is just a bot though so don't try talking to it :P
#1065 [14:49] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1066 [14:49] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#1068 [14:51] <c2o> ok i tried the force update but it still isnt working.
#1069 [14:51] <niel> did it download everything
#1070 [14:51] <c2o> I can still hear the clicks when I try to click on the screen
#1071 [14:51] <niel> did ti download everhitng
#1072 [14:51] <c2o> No it only went to the Mojang screen then it turned black
#1073 [14:52] <c2o> then my screen froze and i had to press my windows home key
#1074 [14:52] <niel> press force update on options the login
#1075 [14:52] <niel> it will redownload everything
#1076 [14:53] <c2o> Tried again didnt work
#1077 [14:53] <c2o> it said it downloaded everything but then it crashed again
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#1079 [14:54] <c2o> i can still hear the clicking noises when you select multiplayer or single player or etc.
#1080 [14:54] <c2o> but i cant see the screen
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#1082 [14:58] <niel> was doing a test :P
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#1084 [14:58] <niel> oops
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#1125 [15:17] <niel>
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#1128 [15:17] <Morrolan> Seems a part of Esper went down. :P
#1129 [15:17] <niel> it did
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#1131 [15:22] <CrusAsleep> Heh, seems like someone tried to PM me asking how to reset a password for his Minecraft and Email. I just scrolled up. About 6 minutes earlier from when he asked, he was ??> scold/pm'd for attempting to privately get assistance.
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#1134 [15:22] <niel> lol
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#1137 [15:23] <Morrolan> The classic "mummy said no, so I'll ask daddy" approach.
#1138 [15:23] <Deleters> *shrug* I ain't complaining. :P
#1139 [15:23] * niel laugh lighly
#1139 [15:23] <Deleters> This was about 5 hours ago. That lino person
#1140 [15:23] <Morrolan> Five hours ago I was hard at work. :D
#1141 [15:23] <Morrolan> Actually, I was probably about to turn off my notebook.
#1142 [15:23] <Deleters> Five hours ago I was at school, probably coding on the computer. Mmmm, my favorite class.
#1143 [15:23] <eagleman2013> Hi. My son is trying to use controls on his mouse to use the pick axe or attack. Can this be set up in controls?
#1144 [15:24] <Morrolan> eagleman2013 - The default setting is "left mouse button to use tool / attack", but you can customize it, yes.
#1145 [15:24] <Morrolan> eagleman2013 - What exactly is the issue?
#1146 [15:25] <niel> this is so meach easier to help people the #FTB
#1147 [15:25] <Morrolan> Yea, just you wait, niel. #minecrafthelp gets all kind of people. :P
#1148 [15:25] * GreyVulpine coughs.
#1148 [15:25] <Deleters> Heh
#1149 [15:25] <Deleters> I've seen all sorts of things
#1150 [15:25] <niel> whats the funnniest
#1151 [15:26] <Deleters> I've got to remember that part.
#1152 [15:26] <eagleman2013> We just installed the mouse. he uses keyboad keys to move directions. When we try to use he mouse to set the attack in the controls <???>? comes up. How does he assigh the left mouse buttob to the <???>
#1153 [15:26] <niel> there was one that said i forgot me email and passowrd but i remember ym user name help
#1154 [15:26] <Morrolan> eagleman2013 - Once "???" shows up, press the button which you want to use.
#1155 [15:26] <niel> eaglemand go to contols
#1156 [15:26] <Morrolan> eagleman2013 - That is, simply press the left mouse button once more.
#1157 [15:26] <niel> onece it says ??? prsss whatever button you want it to be set to
#1158 [15:27] <Deleters> niel: Yeah. He was told not to continue to PM people.
#1159 [15:27] <niel> lol
#1160 [15:27] <eagleman2013> WE tryied, but "button 1" or "button 2" comes up instead
#1161 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> niel - Trying to run minecraft on: http://pastebin.com/jY7BuwFE
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#1163 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> eagleman2013 - Button 1 is left click, button 2 is right click
#1164 [15:27] <niel> callaenge acceptd
#1165 [15:27] <eagleman2013> Ok...we'll try. thanks!
#1166 [15:27] <niel> wait what is this
#1167 [15:28] <eagleman2013> I might be back
#1168 [15:28] <Deleters> Eagle: That's what should appear. ;)
#1169 [15:28] <Morrolan> eagleman2013 - YOu'll have to keep the mouse button pressed.
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#1171 [15:28] <Morrolan> eagleman2013 - That is, to destroy any blocks, you'll have to keep it pressed.
#1172 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> niel - A dxdiag report of a computer with less than half a gig of RAM, and an integrated SiS video chipset
#1173 [15:28] <niel> i know that
#1174 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Er, wait, Via/S3G
#1175 [15:29] <niel> its a shit cimputer
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#1178 [15:29] <Deleters> Niel: He's talking about the funniest moment here. :D
#1179 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> We get people with those all the time. "Minecraft's a stupid game, with pixely graphics, It should run FINE on my (10 year old) computer!"
#1180 [15:30] <eagleman2013> I'm back already...If that doen't work is there another option? He's on Wisadrd 101 right now so I can't check
#1181 [15:30] <niel> lol
#1182 [15:30] <Deleters> Grey: If only they knew.
#1183 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> If only.
#1184 [15:31] <Morrolan> eagleman2013 - If it doesn't work, you know where to find us. ;)
#1185 [15:31] <eagleman2013> Ugh...
#1186 [15:31] <Deleters> Sadly, there's usually so much going on here, that I cannot really remember the funniest.
#1187 [15:31] <niel> one kid cant even download the game he palys in browser
#1188 [15:31] <Morrolan> You basically just asked me the equivalent of "If this car I bought won't have tires, what shall I do?". ;)
#1189 [15:31] <niel> as me keyboard dies
#1190 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Let's see, just yesterday, somebody called us useless, and should be taken off the support page because we can't make their regular server that they frequent, be up.
#1191 [15:32] * Morrolan snrks
#1191 [15:32] <niel> my servers always up
#1192 [15:32] <niel> but if i talk about ill get kicked
#1193 [15:32] <Morrolan> Nah. Depends on who's on.
#1194 [15:32] <Morrolan> Some of the ops have odd defintions of "advertising".
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#1196 [15:32] <niel> no its modded
#1197 [15:32] <Deleters> It depends if you're insisting on trying to get support.
#1198 [15:33] <Morrolan> We don't kick for using modded clients.
#1199 [15:33] <niel> im not accepting players
#1200 [15:33] <Morrolan> It's just some of the semi-regulars being a bit... overly aggressive with the ?? modding factoid.
#1201 [15:33] <Morrolan> If you ask me, anyway.
#1202 [15:33] <Morrolan> "Oh my god, you mentioned modding, we do not provide support for this, even if you did not ask for it!"
#1203 [15:33] <niel> we have custom launcher
#1204 [15:33] * Morrolan rambles
#1204 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Come join my server at: 255.255.255.255 is not accepted here. Could you try my server at 123.123.123.123 and see if it's running, is okay here.
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#1206 [15:34] <Deleters> I'd prefer to just say "We don't support modding. If you would like to recieve support, you can force-update and download a new jar file."
#1207 [15:34] <Morrolan> Yes, that's a tad more polite than throwing said factoid around.
#1208 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> There's a distinction between asking for help, and just dropping a server ip.
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#1210 [15:34] <niel> i hate some kids
#1211 [15:34] <Deleters> Lol. Unplugged internet cable(s)?
#1212 [15:35] <Trenton> Hello? I've bought the game Minecraft like, thirty minutes ago, and they said they will send me an email where I can create a game profile.
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#1214 [15:35] <Morrolan> Trenton - Once the payment cleared, you should also get a big blue button on https://account.mojang.com/me
#1215 [15:35] <clarjon1> Trenton: It can sometimes take up to 48 hours to process the payment.
#1216 [15:35] <Trenton> How long does one usually wait for that email to come?
#1217 [15:35] <Trenton> Ah.
#1218 [15:35] <Trenton> Alright.
#1219 [15:35] <Trenton> Thank you.
#1220 [15:35] <clarjon1> Trenton: It's usually instant, but sometimes credit card companies put a delay on international transactions, to help prevent fraud/identity theft.
#1221 [15:36] <Morrolan> Some providers also seem to block international transactions completely.
#1222 [15:36] <Morrolan> (Especiall with prepaid cards)
#1223 [15:36] <clarjon1> Trenton: If you've not recieved the email within 48 hours, contact your credit card company to see if they've blocked the transaction.
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#1227 [15:37] <niel1> trenton you made anccount?
#1228 [15:37] <niel1> im raging
#1229 [15:37] <Morrolan> How come?
#1230 [15:38] <Deleters> Morrolan: "i hate somekids" after two different disconnections.
#1231 [15:38] <Deleters> It's perfectly resonable why. ;)
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#1233 [15:39] <Morrolan> Can't follow.
#1234 [15:39] * Mikko_Sleep is now known as Mikko_blu
#1235 [15:39] <niel1> i just stabbed someone witha pen
#1236 [15:39] <Morrolan> That's bad.
#1237 [15:39] <niel1> he closed my cpu
#1238 [15:39] <Deleters> Closed your CPU?
#1239 [15:39] <Morrolan> He what?
#1240 [15:40] <niel1> at school
#1241 [15:40] <niel1> laptop
#1242 [15:40] <Deleters> That's a computer, not a CPU. :P
#1243 [15:40] <Morrolan> So, some other guy closed your CPU.
#1244 [15:40] * Morrolan blinks
#1244 [15:40] * niel1 is lazy
#1244 [15:41] <Deleters> I was thinking that they were closing your processor.
#1245 [15:41] <Morrolan> Yea, that is, after all what he sa...
#1246 [15:41] <Morrolan> oh, Crysis 3 done loading, I shall be off.
#1247 [15:41] <Deleters> Hah. Cya
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#1249 [15:41] * niel1 is now known as niel
#1250 [15:42] <niel> hes bleeding oops
#1251 [15:42] <Morrolan> What kind of school do you visit?
#1252 [15:42] <Morrolan> From what I remember, we didn't use to stab each other with pens.
#1253 [15:43] <Deleters> Yeah... Being my senior year at mine, I'm pretty sure noone stabbed me with pens.
#1254 [15:43] * TyanColte|2 is now known as TyanColte
#1255 [15:43] <niel> he deserved it
#1256 [15:43] <Deleters> Although I did get a permanent tattoo from a girl stabbing my hand with a very sharp pencil. The graphite got stuck under my skin.
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#1258 [15:47] <niel> i stabbed my self in first grade
#1259 [15:47] <niel> nice black dont on my hand
#1260 [15:48] <KenBassiroth> So I have a small issue
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#1262 [15:49] <KenBassiroth> My minecraft seems to be lagging and I'm not entirely sure why. I have an...Intell(R) HD Graphics Card and I thought it was pretty good but I'm not sure why my Framerate in Minecraft is slow.
#1263 [15:49] <niel> hmmm
#1264 [15:49] <niel> \turn down you setting
#1265 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Intel HD graphics cards are that way, unfortunately.
#1266 [15:49] <KenBassiroth> GraphHow do I do that? In Minecrfaft or in the properties of adjusting thescreen resolution?
#1267 [15:50] <Eddie> My framerate is rather good on my HD 4000
#1268 [15:50] * niel is mac support guy :)
#1268 [15:50] * Eddie looks at Scott
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#1269 [15:51] * niel doesnt think there is anyone called scott here
#1269 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> KenBassiroth - In minecraft's video options.
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#1271 [15:51] <Scott> Oh really?
#1272 [15:52] * niel mind blown
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#1273 [15:53] <KenBassiroth> Okay I'm in Video Settings on Minecraft. Where do I go from there?
#1274 [15:53] <niel> change your render settings to lower
#1275 [15:53] <niel> like normal or short
#1276 [15:57] <KenBassiroth> Alright. It's working a bit better now, Thanks
#1277 [15:57] <niel> np
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#1280 [16:07] <niel> im sooooo bored
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#1283 [16:11] <tigris> i downloaded a free version of minecraft and now i cant get rid of it
#1284 [16:12] <niel> delete it
#1285 [16:12] <Scott> Probably because it's malware lol
#1286 [16:12] <niel> thst gonne be bad
#1287 [16:13] <tigris> helo
#1288 [16:13] <superkabii> "free" - as in the demo, or a full version?
#1289 [16:14] <niel> he might not be able to delte it cause tis running lol
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#1295 [16:25] <Matt_> issue in create mode. my son is creating a project for school and it has respawned him and his work is lost.
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#1305 [16:40] <ashketchem> Hi, having trouble migrating my minecraft account to a mojang account. My old username/password is not being recognized? But I have created a new mojang login which is not recognized from within standalone minecraft. Can anyone shed light on this situation please?
#1306 [16:42] <Morrolan> Where exactly do the Minecraft credentials work, and where not?
#1307 [16:42] <Morrolan> (e.g. http://www.minecraft.net - Minecraft launcher)
#1308 [16:43] <Morrolan> And I assume with "old username/password is not recognized" you meant that trying to migrate on https://account.mojang.com/migrate does not worK?
#1309 [16:44] <ashketchem> Thanks for question. the old credentials (for minecraft account don't work either on minecraft.net or in the standalone player. Then I created a new mojang account to try to fix it. That works on account.mojang but not from the standalone.
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#1311 [16:45] <Morrolan> Yea, a new Mojang account will not work to sign in to the game with because that account doesn't have the game linked to it.
#1312 [16:45] <Morrolan> But migrating on https://account.mojang.com/migrate fails?
#1313 [16:45] <ashketchem> I made a new account on account.mojang/migrate but as you say, it doesn't work through the game. What should I do to login through the game?
#1314 [16:46] <Morrolan> Oh, wait. That new Mojang account has been made by migrating on https://account.mojang.com/migrate? How exactly does it not work in the launcher? What are you using to sign in with?
#1315 [16:47] <Morrolan> In order to sign in to the game with a Mojang account, you will have to use e-mail address & password, and not username & password.
#1316 [16:48] <ashketchem> Yes the new account was made by migrating the old one (which had a username) on mojang/migrate to a new one which uses an email address. But this new one doesn't work through the standalone game.
#1317 [16:50] <Morrolan> Are you signing in to the game with the _username_, or the _email address_?
#1318 [16:50] <Morrolan> For, well, see above.
#1319 [16:50] <ashketchem> I'm signing in with the email address
#1320 [16:50] <Morrolan> Okay. What error message do you get when you try to sign in to the game?
#1321 [16:50] <ashketchem> Login failed
#1322 [16:51] <ashketchem> What do you recommend? Make a new account on mojang/migrate page? But will it accept a new account my email address?
#1323 [16:51] <xales> ashketchem: Go here: http://account.mojang.com/me - Does it list Minecraft on the page, with a purchase date and profile name? It should look like this, pay attention to the part in the red box: http://forevernothing.com/mcacct.png
#1324 [16:51] <ashketchem> Thanks Ill look
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#1326 [16:52] <Morrolan> xales - You've actually got some sort of webpage on there, now? :o
#1327 [16:52] <xales> Morrolan: On where? :p
#1328 [16:52] <Morrolan> forevernothing.com
#1329 [16:52] <xales> oh, yeah I've had that there for a long time actually
#1330 [16:52] <xales> I don't really use that domain any more
#1331 [16:52] <xales> I get emails I think, though the blackhole I just added for @inafire.com might have overridden that too
#1332 [16:52] <sadboy> it says i didn't buy minecraftwhen i did
#1333 [16:52] <xales> (I get so much spam to inafire, holy shit)
#1334 [16:53] <xales> sadboy: Was there a charge on your account?
#1335 [16:53] <sadboy> yeah
#1336 [16:53] <xales> Have you confirmed with your bank or financial institution that that is, in fact, the case?
#1337 [16:53] <sadboy> it sent me to the username thing but i never got an email
#1338 [16:53] <sadboy> oh and yeah
#1339 [16:54] <xales> When you say "it says I didn't buy Minecraft", what exactly does it tell you, and where?
#1340 [16:54] <sadboy> oh wait no
#1341 [16:54] <sadboy> ill do that thanks
#1342 [16:54] <sadboy> bye
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#1344 [16:54] * Morrolan blinks
#1344 [16:54] <Morrolan> I guess sadboy is happy again?
#1345 [16:54] <xales> ._.
#1346 [16:55] <Morrolan> Okay, that pun wasn't too inventive.
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#1350 [16:56] <ashketchem> Hi Morrolan, my old login on minecraft fails, and there is no way to reset it, it seems. Without that, the new account can't connect to it to see my licence purchase. Can I reset the password on the old account?
#1351 [16:57] <xales> ashketchem: Once you migrate the account, the old account no longer exists.
#1352 [16:57] <xales> If it is in fact migrated, it will tell you that when you try to sign into it.
#1353 [16:58] <ashketchem> Ok. When I go to https://account.mojang.com/me it says "If you already bought Minecraft you can migrate your Minecraft Account to a Mojang Account. Just enter your Minecraft Username and Password below." But it doesn't recognise the old login?
#1354 [16:59] <Morrolan> And it does not show 'Minecraft' under 'My Games', either?
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#1356 [17:02] <ashketchem> Morrolan/xales: thanks for persisting. No it doesn't show 'Minecraft' under 'My Games', either, though I have bought it about a year ago.
#1357 [17:02] <xales> ashketchem: You haven't migrated it then, or you've migrated it to a different account/email.
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#1359 [17:03] <ashketchem> To have a standalone game means you have to buy it?
#1360 [17:03] <xales> What do you mean "standalone"?
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#1363 [17:05] <ashketchem> xales: by standalone I mean the downloaded game, not classic mode.
#1364 [17:06] <xales> There's a way to play the demo with the launcher/offline.
#1365 [17:06] <xales> But if you want to actually play the game, yes, you need to have bought it.
#1366 [17:06] <ashketchem> xales: but anyway, the migrate page doesn't recognise that old account. I suppose the old account is lost forever now so I need to produce evidence of purchase and send it to mojang?
#1367 [17:07] <Morrolan> That is, there WOULD be a way to play the demo offline, if it would work.
#1368 [17:07] <xales> Morrolan: I'm pretty sure you can, though I forget how :p
#1369 [17:07] <xales> ashketchem: http://minecraft.net/forgotpassword
#1370 [17:07] <xales> er
#1371 [17:07] <Morrolan> xales - Yea, the in-browser version works.
#1372 [17:07] <xales> not that
#1373 [17:07] <xales> one moment
#1374 [17:07] <Morrolan> ?? contact
#1375 [17:07] <Morrolan> Hmph.
#1376 [17:07] <Morrolan> ?? email
#1377 [17:07] <Morrolan> ?? email/new
#1378 [17:07] <xales> wait
#1379 [17:07] <Morrolan> Fine, I give up
#1380 [17:07] <xales> ashketchem: Try resetting the password here: http://minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1381 [17:07] <Morrolan> Oh, that can't hurt, true.
#1382 [17:08] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, mojang/email
#1383 [17:08] <Guest43022> Minecraft keeps crashing after it opens. It's been working fine but, suddenly, it's started crashing within the first minute or two of playing. I'm not terribly computer savy but I'm hoping to fix it. Do I need to uninstall and reinstall and will that erase all the stuff the kids have built already?
#1384 [17:08] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Yep, mcfaq.hfbgaming.com has told me that by now. :)
#1385 [17:08] <xales> Guest43022: Try this first:
#1386 [17:08] <Morrolan> Guest43022 - Start the launcher -> Options -> Force update -> Log in as usual
#1387 [17:08] <xales> ??> Guest43022 forceupdate
#1388 [17:08] <VoxelHead> Guest43022: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1389 [17:08] <VoxelHead> Guest43022: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1390 [17:08] <Morrolan> Guest43022 - And nope, that won't destroy any worlds.
#1391 [17:08] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, throw factoids ffs :P
#1392 [17:08] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Hah, I like it close and personal!
#1393 [17:08] * Morrolan glomps tyteen4a03
#1393 [17:09] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, does this mean I am now yours?
#1394 [17:09] <tyteen4a03> forever?
#1395 [17:09] <tyteen4a03> coooooool
#1396 [17:09] <Morrolan> No, Grim wouldn't like that, I think.
#1397 [17:09] <xales> LOVE TRIANGLE
#1398 [17:09] <Morrolan> And with such a silly comment - back in a bit, changing OS.
#1399 [17:09] <Guest43022> OK, THANKS! I'll give that a try. I sure appreciate it - they're like junkies for this game, LOL!
#1400 [17:10] <tyteen4a03> Guest43022, no problem
#1401 [17:10] <tyteen4a03> xales, Grim_Reaper, pfft
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#1406 [17:16] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03: Had you used tab-completion you'd have noticed that Grim isn't here. :D
#1407 [17:17] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, yes, I realize
#1408 [17:17] <tyteen4a03> I STILL AM YOURS ANYWAYS
#1409 [17:18] * Morrolan smiles
#1409 [17:19] <Morrolan> Oh, I just can't wrap my head around Ubuntu's DE, think I'll move back to Gnome 3.
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#1411 [17:20] <corbin2003> i have reset my password, and now i cant log into minecraft.
#1412 [17:21] <xales> corbin2003: Are you using the right password...?
#1413 [17:21] <corbin2003> yes
#1414 [17:22] <xales> Are you able to log in on the website?
#1415 [17:22] <corbin2003> yes
#1416 [17:24] <ashketchem> xales/Morrolan: Thanks for your help guys, it worked!
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#1418 [17:24] <xales> corbin2003: Are you using the same email (or username if not migrated) and password?
#1419 [17:24] <corbin2003> with old and new password it says, Oops, unknown username or password. If you are logging in with a Mojang account make sure to use your e-mail address as username
#1420 [17:24] <Morrolan> ashketchem: Good to hear. :)
#1421 [17:24] <Morrolan> (Credit goes to xales, though, slipped my mind that resetting the password might help :P)
#1422 [17:24] <corbin2003> yes its the correct username and password
#1423 [17:25] <xales> corbin2003: Are you using a Minecraft account (username, on minecraft.net) or Mojang account (email address, on account.mojang.com)
#1424 [17:25] <corbin2003> minecraft
#1425 [17:25] <xSage17x> Im trying to create a new minecraft server and when I get an IP addess to plug in, the server keeps crashing. Any ideas what i should do?
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#1427 [17:25] <xales> corbin2003: Try migrating it to a Mojang account.
#1428 [17:25] <corbin2003> ok
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#1430 [17:25] <xales> xSage17x: Is there an error message when the server crashes? If it's longer than two lines, please use pastebin.
#1431 [17:27] <xSage17x> This is the error message i keep getting--"Encountered an unexpected exception IllegalArgumentException"
#1432 [17:27] <Guest46309> I was just on here asking about how to fix a crashing problem. It was sugested that I do a force update. I did that and it opened for a while but crashed again. A screen came up that gave a crash support that said I couldn't get help without that crash report. Should I copy and paste that report in here?
#1433 [17:28] <xales> xSage17x: When you say "get an IP adress to plug in", what exactly do you mean?
#1434 [17:28] <Guest46309> crash report, I mean
#1435 [17:28] <xales> Guest46309: Copy it and paste it on http://pastebin.com and share the link it gives you with us.
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#1437 [17:28] <Guest46309> ok, will do
#1438 [17:30] <xSage17x> I recieve the error message after I plug the IPV4 address into the server properties to complete the creation of the server. Before i plug in the IPV4 address to start the server, it works fine.
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#1441 [17:32] <Guest46309> Ok, here's the link it gave me: <script src="http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=bzws6xSE"></script>
#1442 [17:34] <Guest46309> did I do that right?
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#1444 [17:35] <tyteen4a03> Guest46309, that is a strange link but I think that will do
#1445 [17:35] <tyteen4a03> Guest46309, actually, maybe not
#1446 [17:35] <tyteen4a03> xSage17x, you don't
#1447 [17:35] <Guest46309> lemme try it again
#1448 [17:35] <tyteen4a03> xSage17x, unless required by us, you should always leave the server-ip field blank
#1449 [17:36] <xSage17x> Then how do I run the server so my friends can join?
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#1452 [17:37] <stacia> how do I start the download for minecraft
#1453 [17:38] * Sphearion_away is now known as Sphearion
#1454 [17:38] <stacia> i paid and now it wont start
#1455 [17:38] <Guest46309> OK, after I paste in thecrash report I see a little link at the top that says "embed codes" and when I click on that it gives me this: <script src="http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=yD4GvyPC"></script>
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#1457 [17:38] <jkmcn> i am unable to start minecraft after I had purchased
#1458 [17:38] <Guest46309> I'm not sure how else I can find a link to it
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#1460 [17:39] <tyteen4a03> Guest46309, we mean the URL it took you to
#1461 [17:39] <tyteen4a03> Guest46309, we mean the URL it took you to
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#1463 [17:40] <Guest46309> Oh, OK. Sorry. Here ya go: http://pastebin.com/yD4GvyPC
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#1465 [17:42] <xSage17x> I solved the issue my server is now running.
#1466 [17:42] <xSage17x> Thank you for your time and have a great day =).
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#1468 [17:44] <tyteen4a03> Guest46309, hang on
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#1470 [17:44] <Guest46309> No problem! Figured it would take a long time to read. thanks for your help!
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#1474 [17:46] <tyteen4a03> Guest46309, this error is caused by a bug in Minecraft, did you set your Chat key to a mouse click?
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#1476 [17:47] <tyteen4a03> anyhoo, here's how to reset your control options:
#1477 [17:47] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest46309 mac/.minecraft
#1478 [17:47] <VoxelHead> Guest46309: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#1479 [17:48] <tyteen4a03> Guest46309, from there, find a file called options.txt and delete it
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#1482 [17:49] <Guest46309> I don't actually know. LOL! My kids are the ones that play with it but after the fore update completed and we started up minecraft, he did get a little window at the bottom of the screen that looked like some sort of chat thing. It wasn't like that originally when we got the game. He goes, "Dad, when I try to destroy something (using the mouse) THIS thing pops up!"
#1483 [17:49] <Guest46309> Do I need to change the settings somewhere?
#1484 [17:51] <tyteen4a03> Guest46309, yes, just follow the instructions above to reset your settings
#1485 [17:52] <Guest46309> Which instructions?
#1486 [17:52] <tyteen4a03> uh, I'll post them again
#1487 [17:52] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest46309 mac/.minecraft
#1488 [17:52] <VoxelHead> Guest46309: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#1489 [17:52] <tyteen4a03> Guest46309, from there, find a file called options.txt and delete it
#1490 [17:53] <Guest46309> Found it. Just delete it and restart the game. Right?
#1491 [17:56] <Guest46309> Thank you for your help! Hopefully I won't need to come back and bother y'all!
#1492 [17:58] <tyteen4a03> Guest46309, no problem
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#1494 [17:59] <trevor12> Hey gyus! i have a weird problem......
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#1496 [18:00] <trevor12> I have mc on my home pc, and now im trying it on my laptop and i have java installed and everything installed, but when i open the game, the minecraft screen kust turns black
#1497 [18:01] <tyteen4a03> ??> trevor12 win/dxdiag/bat
#1498 [18:01] <VoxelHead> trevor12: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1499 [18:01] <VoxelHead> trevor12: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
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#1501 [18:02] <kusanagi> lol
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#1511 [18:22] <Guest76988> Hey, I'm here wondering if I can get some help figuring out how to create and own 2 distinct accessible servers.
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#1513 [18:23] <Guest76988> Is anyone available to help me out with that?
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#1515 [18:25] <NinjaKirby> MinecraftWiki has some good tutorials, even covers the NAT config I believe
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#1518 [18:26] <NinjaKirby> At least he'll feel more accomplished and proud of his two operational servers, after he's worked it out.
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#1522 [18:33] <kusanagi> NinjaKirby, I suppose
#1523 [18:34] <NinjaKirby> Well, leaving after 2 minutes is never an inspiring sign anyway
#1524 [18:35] <kusanagi> Nope..
#1525 [18:37] <NinjaKirby> God, why can't YouTube just remember a particular Resolution setting, how has this not been implemented after like a decade
#1526 [18:38] <NinjaKirby> Gonna try the have slow connection setting, it's not far from the truth anyway -_-
#1527 [18:39] <kusanagi> ;/
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#1529 [18:43] <jimmy_> i bought the game and email is not sent to get user name
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#1534 [18:50] <dee> I need help with a cape
#1535 [18:50] <batman_> hey can i use a minecraft card for myself
#1536 [18:50] <dee> can you help me with a cape for notch
#1537 [18:50] <batman_> um no
#1538 [18:51] <dee> um no what
#1539 [18:51] <batman_> no thank you
#1540 [18:51] <batman_> sir
#1541 [18:51] <dee> is this minecraft customer service
#1542 [18:51] <batman_> no this is patruck
#1543 [18:51] <dee> see ya
#1544 [18:51] <batman_> ok
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#1546 [18:52] <batman_> hey can i use minecraft for myself
#1547 [18:53] <batman_> help plz
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#1550 [18:54] <superman> hey can i use a minecraft card for myself
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#1553 [18:54] <NinjaKirby> lol, wtf is going on in here
#1554 [18:54] <superman> can i use a minecraft card 4 my own account
#1555 [18:55] <superman> meh just asking a question
#1556 [18:55] <superman> can i use a minecraft card for myself
#1557 [18:56] <superman> my own account
#1558 [18:56] <superman> hello
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#1560 [18:56] <superman> can i use minecraft for my ownaccount
#1561 [18:56] <superman> own account
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#1563 [18:57] <superman> ccan i use a minecraft card for myself
#1564 [18:57] <superman> can i use a minecraft card for myself
#1565 [18:57] <superman> someone plz help me
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#1569 [18:58] <Gramps> I am trying to log into mine craft but login fails. i can log in a view my account but not login to play the game fails
#1570 [18:58] <help_me> can i use a minecraft card for myself
#1571 [18:58] <NinjaKirby> Gramps: What error message are your confronted with?
#1572 [18:59] <NinjaKirby> *You, fffff-
#1573 [18:59] <help_me> i'm asking if i can use a minecraft card on my own account
#1574 [18:59] <Gramps> it says login failed on the main page
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#1576 [19:00] <NinjaKirby> Using your Email as username?
#1577 [19:01] <Gramps> used email and username both all failed
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#1579 [19:01] <help_me> can i use a minecraft card for myself
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#1581 [19:02] <NinjaKirby> Gramps: Hmmm, has it worked at all in the recent past? Or is it a new account?
#1582 [19:02] <help_me> can a representative help me
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#1584 [19:02] <help_me> can i use a minecraft card for myself
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#1586 [19:02] <NinjaKirby> help_me: There appears to be no one around atm that knows, they are either sleeping or AFK. Might be worth trying in an hour or so.
#1587 [19:03] <NinjaKirby> Or even half an hour. Or just lingering.
#1588 [19:03] <help_me> ok but do u know if ican i use a minecraft card for myself
#1589 [19:03] <help_me> can i use a minecraft card for myself
#1590 [19:04] <help_me> hello?
#1591 [19:04] <NinjaKirby> I feel like I'm a victim of cyber trolling.
#1592 [19:04] <help_me> me too
#1593 [19:04] <help_me> do u know the answer to my question
#1594 [19:04] <NinjaKirby> If I knew, I would have gave Batman or Superman the answer :/
#1595 [19:04] <Gramps> i purchased a premium account several months ago. just found out he can only play offline. wants to play online
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#1600 [19:06] <help_me> i will try again later
#1601 [19:06] <help_me> i will ask google
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#1603 [19:06] <Pro3000Minecraft> I downloaded Minecraft on a brand new computer for the first time and I keep getting an error message that Minecraft has run out of memory and that there is a bug in the game.
#1604 [19:07] <NinjaKirby> Gramps: In that case, I guess it's never been patched? If memory serves, that happens after login.
#1605 [19:07] <Pro3000Minecraft> I tried to make a new file in Notepad titled Minecraft.bat and open the game with that file but it's not working.
#1606 [19:07] <NinjaKirby> Might be worth temporarily disabling Security Software, to ensure that isn't blocking Minecraft in some way.
#1607 [19:08] <Pro3000Minecraft> I haven't installed any security software on the computer yet as I wanted to make sure the game works first.
#1608 [19:08] <Gramps> btw im on a mac
#1609 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> Pro3000Minecraft: That does require specifically the Minecraft Client .Jar, you can't use the one from the /bin/ folder. Definitely got the right one?
#1610 [19:08] <Pro3000Minecraft> I get the error message after about 10 minutes into the game.
#1611 [19:09] <Pro3000Minecraft> What is Minecraft Client .jar?
#1612 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> Sorry, the security software remark was for Gramps
#1613 [19:09] <Pro3000Minecraft> No problem!
#1614 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> https://minecraft.net/download You want "Minecraft for Linux / Other"
#1615 [19:10] <NinjaKirby> It will run on Windows with the .bat file, the title is a little misleading.
#1616 [19:10] <Pro3000Minecraft> Is that different than Minecraft for Windows?
#1617 [19:10] <NinjaKirby> Exactly the same, just "different packaging"
#1618 [19:10] <SinZ> Not really, its just differently packaged, Windows can handle both fine
#1619 [19:11] <NinjaKirby> Bit confusing when you eventually learn there is at least 3 different JAR's called Minecraft.
#1620 [19:11] <NinjaKirby> Well, two to be fair, the others the MC_Server
#1621 [19:12] <Pro3000Minecraft> I went to the site you just suggested and found it. Clicked on run and it brought me to a folder on my computer. Now what?
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#1623 [19:13] <NinjaKirby> Heke? Should be a matter of placing that new .Jar in the same folder as the .Bat, and running the .Bat file (Presumably containing the -XMX -XMS arguments)
#1624 [19:13] <Pro3000Minecraft> I don't see a .jar file in the folder that opened on my computer.
#1625 [19:13] <NinjaKirby> Huh, I guess the default download folder is somewhere else
#1626 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> Why would a folder open... I'm gonna try running it myself, heh
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#1629 [19:14] <Pro3000Minecraft> thanks - this is driving me crazy
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#1632 [19:15] <NinjaKirby> Huh, wow, a double click works, in hindsight I guess it's to be expected.
#1633 [19:15] <NinjaKirby> When I double click the 80KB .Jar I get the Client launch
#1634 [19:15] <Gramps> i have firewall off and ability to download programs from anywhere already on.
#1635 [19:16] <Pro3000Minecraft> I don't see that either. I get a minecraft zip folder and when I open it there is 3 other folders and a file
#1636 [19:17] <NinjaKirby> Pro3000Minecraft: You can open .Jar files with Archive software like WinRAR, it appears the default executable for your .Jar's is an archive program, which isn't really how it should be ^^;;
#1637 [19:18] <NinjaKirby> Are you able to right click, and use "Open With -> Java"
#1638 [19:19] <NinjaKirby> Gramps: I'm getting a little stumped on that one, plus it's a Mac environment which I don't have much experience with, particularly with Minecraft.
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#1641 [19:20] <mike_> my son has purchased minecraft pc. We can't get it to work on this computer.
#1642 [19:20] <Pro3000Minecraft> Mike, that's exactly what we did and it's not working here either
#1643 [19:21] <mike_> it works on the other computer, but once we log in, he can't get into the game.
#1644 [19:21] <Gramps> what can i do? i paid for a premium version is online included in that. i need to clear this up soon. 10 year screaming in my ear.
#1645 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> Erm, kinda generalised statement from Mike_ there, but I guess ^^;;
#1646 [19:21] <mike_> any ideas on how to fix?
#1647 [19:22] <Pro3000Minecraft> Yeah - we paid $27 for this game and I can't get it to work.
#1648 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> Gramps: You could try popping in another time, when some more experienced volounteers here are available. Or try Mojang email for help, although their turn-around for response is quite long (as a heads up).
#1649 [19:22] * tyteen4a03 pops
#1649 [19:22] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, throw all the issues at me
#1650 [19:23] <SinZ> mike_: what Operating system is on the computer that hates minecraft/
#1651 [19:23] <Pro3000Minecraft> NinjaKirby - I now have a Minecraft.jar file that should open with Java but when I click on it, I get a message that says Java Virtual Machine Launcher...Invalid or corrup jarfile.
#1652 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> Gramps: Login error message on a Mac, Pro3000Minecraft is trying to use a .Bat to increase Memory
#1653 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> Sorry, that was to Tyten, I'm a bit tired.
#1654 [19:23] <mike_> windows
#1655 [19:24] <SinZ> mike_: does it black screen after login? or does it freeze on the Mojang screen?
#1656 [19:24] <Gramps> i emailed mojang 3 mos ago and still have not heard back. it can't be that hard
#1657 [19:24] <mike_> neither, it lets him log in, but the "buy" button shows where he is used to joining the game.
#1658 [19:25] <Pro3000Minecraft> I emailed mojang and I heard back from them right away. They said they can't help me with technical issue so to try this instead. I want my money back.
#1659 [19:25] <SinZ> mike_: Minecraft profile name?
#1660 [19:25] <mike_> sdmdcdmd
#1661 [19:26] <SinZ> uhh, where did you buy Minecraft?
#1662 [19:27] <mike_> online
#1663 [19:27] <SinZ> where online?
#1664 [19:27] <Pro3000Minecraft> i bought minecraft at minecraft.net
#1665 [19:27] <mike_> minecraft.net
#1666 [19:27] <NinjaKirby> Pro3000Minecraft: I have a standard MC installation, and can run the .Jar launcher no problem. I wonder if a clean installation of Java (v6) is worth trying.
#1667 [19:28] <mike_> yes, that message came up and we did the free download of java. still no help.
#1668 [19:28] <NinjaKirby> Pro3000Minecraft: Honestly, I've had to take the same route you have before to circumvent memory issues. Eventually a clean install solved everything (Had black screen issues as well).
#1669 [19:28] <Pro3000Minecraft> Maybe - we just installed Java tonight for the first time. I'm so frustrated and my son is pissed off. I just want my money back and want to return the computer.
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#1671 [19:29] <mike_> should we delete and reinstall?
#1672 [19:29] <Pro3000Minecraft> NinjaKirby: How do I do a clean install?
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#1675 [19:30] <NinjaKirby> Pro3000Minecraft: Best bet I reckon would be via "Programs & Features" in Control panel
#1676 [19:30] <SinZ> clean install of java, or minecraft?
#1677 [19:31] <Pro3000Minecraft> OK - gonna try it now
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#1679 [19:31] <mike_> ok, we'll give it a shot. thank you!
#1680 [19:31] <NinjaKirby> Java v7 I believe still carries some issues with Minecraft, so role the latest edition of Version 6.
#1681 [19:32] <NinjaKirby> SinZ: I presume Java, heh.
#1682 [19:32] <Pro3000Minecraft> NinjaKirby: I have Java 7, Update 15. I will try V6.
#1683 [19:32] <sanies316> I am unable to log into minecraft and I received an email from minecraft stating that mine and my families accounts were reversed upon my request. I did not request any such action.
#1684 [19:32] <NinjaKirby> Btw, it's a brand new computer, if that's Windows 8... is there much trouble with MC on Win8? O_o
#1685 [19:33] <Pro3000Minecraft> NinjaKirby: I have Windows 8. Maybe that's the problem
#1686 [19:34] <NinjaKirby> There is already loads of Google results indicating Yes, there is several known problems. Way outta my league though, Win8 business.
#1687 [19:34] <NinjaKirby> Still, worth trying the Java downgrade.
#1688 [19:36] <NinjaKirby> Well, I'm working the weekend (joy of retail), so I need to turn-in. Best of luck, Pro3000Minecraft.
#1689 [19:38] <Pro3000Minecraft> Thank you for your help, NinjaKirby!
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#1692 [19:40] <pollo> 7yr6
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#1701 [19:44] <noah> i need help
#1702 [19:44] <noah> anyone here
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#1708 [19:48] <Round_Cubix> I have downloaded the minecraft.exe five times now and it will not install at all
#1709 [19:48] <Round_Cubix> I have turned off all security on my computer and this did not help at all either
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#1711 [19:57] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, I told you to throw all issues at me D:
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#1715 [20:01] <jared> anyone know textcraft zombie survial
#1716 [20:01] <tyteen4a03> ??> jared mods
#1717 [20:01] <VoxelHead> jared: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1718 [20:01] <VoxelHead> jared: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1719 [20:01] <jared> hello
#1720 [20:02] <Grrboy1028> ermm
#1721 [20:02] <Grrboy1028> jared
#1722 [20:03] <jared> do u know u is the boss for textcraft zombie survial
#1723 [20:03] <jared> piz
#1724 [20:03] <Grrboy1028> .g textcraft zombie surival
#1725 [20:03] <Grrboy1028> google textcraft zombie surival
#1726 [20:03] <Grrboy1028> still
#1727 [20:03] <Grrboy1028> ??> jared mods
#1728 [20:03] <VoxelHead> jared: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1729 [20:03] <VoxelHead> jared: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1730 [20:04] <jared> i need report something
#1731 [20:04] <tyteen4a03> jared, read the text aobvwe
#1732 [20:04] <tyteen4a03> *above
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#1734 [20:05] <evan> when I type /xp 40 it says given 40 xp to plasma gun 47, but, when I see how much xp I have, the number stays the same
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#1736 [20:06] <tyteen4a03> evan, not aware of this functionality in vanilla Minecraft, are you using a mod?
#1737 [20:06] <Andrio> evan, that number is your level, not how many experience points you have.
#1738 [20:06] <Grrboy1028> ??> evan mods
#1739 [20:06] <VoxelHead> evan: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1740 [20:06] <VoxelHead> evan: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1742 [20:06] <Andrio> You should have seen the bar move, though.
#1743 [20:06] <Grrboy1028> tyteen4a03, it's mod
#1744 [20:06] <Andrio> tyteen4a03, yes, it is vanilla.
#1745 [20:06] <minecraftrocks> hello?
#1746 [20:06] <Grrboy1028> No, andrio, it's NOT
#1747 [20:07] <Andrio> Yes it is.
#1748 [20:07] <Grrboy1028> "plasma gun 47"
#1749 [20:07] <Grrboy1028> PLASMA GUM?
#1750 [20:07] <AnistonB> I need help, my computer says the video card drivers need to be updated, but they are up to date, so what do i do now
#1751 [20:07] <minecraftrocks> someone help me with something
#1752 [20:07] <Andrio> Maybe that's the player's name.
#1753 [20:07] <Grrboy1028> ??> minecraftrocks ask
#1754 [20:07] <tyteen4a03> AnistonB, Windows?
#1755 [20:07] <VoxelHead> minecraftrocks: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1756 [20:07] <VoxelHead> minecraftrocks: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1757 [20:07] <tyteen4a03> Grrboy1028, Andrio, point me to your proof
#1758 [20:07] <minecraftrocks> i need help minecraft will not load on my computer and it keeps on going to not responding what do i do
#1759 [20:07] <AnistonB> yes, window xp
#1760 [20:08] <tyteen4a03> ??> AnistonB win/dxdiag/bat
#1761 [20:08] <VoxelHead> AnistonB: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1762 [20:08] <VoxelHead> AnistonB: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1763 [20:08] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, has Minecraft worked before?
#1764 [20:08] <Grrboy1028> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/257818-125smpssp-plasmacraft-liquids-acid-energy-weapons0283292012/
#1765 [20:08] <minecraftrocks> i just got it today and it didnt work
#1766 [20:08] <minecraftrocks> what do i do
#1767 [20:09] <Andrio> tyteen4a03: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Commands
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#1769 [20:09] <minecraftrocks> i just got minecraft and it just didnt work i dont know what to do
#1770 [20:09] <Andrio> > 15xp <"Amount"> <playername>
#1771 [20:09] <tyteen4a03> Grrboy1028, looks very outdated, the IRC channel is even empty
#1772 [20:09] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, Windows I presume?
#1773 [20:09] <minecraftrocks> yes correct
#1774 [20:09] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, can you tell me your Java version?
#1775 [20:10] <tyteen4a03> ??> minecraftrocks java/version
#1776 [20:10] <VoxelHead> minecraftrocks: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1777 [20:10] <VoxelHead> minecraftrocks: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1778 [20:10] <minecraftrocks> java/7
#1779 [20:10] <minecraftrocks> my java version is 7
#1780 [20:10] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, can you tell me your full version using the link above?
#1781 [20:10] <minecraftrocks> ok
#1782 [20:11] <tyteen4a03> Andrio, I see
#1783 [20:11] * zack6849|Offline is now known as zack6849
#1784 [20:11] <minecraftrocks> i have version 7 update 15
#1785 [20:12] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, ok
#1786 [20:12] <tyteen4a03> ??> minecraftrocks win/dxdiag/bat
#1787 [20:12] <VoxelHead> minecraftrocks: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1788 [20:12] <VoxelHead> minecraftrocks: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1789 [20:12] <minecraftrocks> thank you guys so much
#1790 [20:12] <minecraftrocks> you guys are being such a big help
#1791 [20:13] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, no problem
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#1793 [20:15] <minecraftrocks> if this works i will be so happy
#1794 [20:15] <AnistonB> it will not let me open the dxdiag file to upload
#1795 [20:16] <AnistonB> is there any chance that minecraft will refund my game purchase
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#1798 [20:21] <minecraftrocks> tyteen4a03
#1799 [20:21] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, hi
#1800 [20:22] <minecraftrocks> ok it said press any key to continue then i pressed a random key but nothing is coming up
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#1802 [20:22] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, do you see a file called DxDiag.txt on your desktop?
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#1807 [20:25] <minecraftrocks_> tyteen i am sorry my computer gets messed up sometimes
#1808 [20:25] <minecraftrocks_> anyway i do see a file that says
#1809 [20:25] <minecraftrocks_> huh
#1810 [20:25] <minecraftrocks_> tyteen?
#1811 [20:26] <minecraftrocks_> i am sorry
#1812 [20:26] <minecraftrocks_> tyteen4a03
#1813 [20:26] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks_, open it
#1814 [20:26] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks_, copy everything that's inside, then head to pastebin.com, paste it, click Submit, and give us the link you were taken to
#1815 [20:26] <minecraftrocks_> ok
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#1818 [20:31] <minecraftrocks> http://pastebin.com/2Huf4jZU
#1819 [20:32] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, you should be able to by clicking on the #minecrafthelp tab
#1820 [20:32] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, also, hang on
#1821 [20:32] <tyteen4a03> ??> minecraftrocks gpu/amd
#1822 [20:32] <VoxelHead> minecraftrocks: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#1823 [20:32] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, you need to upgrade your graphics driver by going there
#1824 [20:32] <minecraftrocks> ok thank you
#1825 [20:32] <minecraftrocks> hold on
#1826 [20:33] <minecraftrocks> its downloading
#1827 [20:33] <minecraftrocks> now what?
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#1829 [20:33] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, install it
#1830 [20:33] <tyteen4a03> *run\
#1831 [20:34] <minecraftrocks> its going
#1832 [20:34] <minecraftrocks> should this be able to help my problem?
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#1834 [20:35] <minecraftrocks> if it works i am going to thank you guys so much
#1835 [20:35] <minecraftrocks> ok now what
#1836 [20:36] <minecraftrocks> its installing catalyst
#1837 [20:36] <minecraftrocks> so after that should minecraft be able to work?
#1838 [20:36] <minecraftrocks> tyteen4a03?
#1839 [20:36] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, yes
#1840 [20:36] <minecraftrocks> thank you
#1841 [20:36] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, I also apologize for my delay - I am currently busy in other things
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#1843 [20:37] <minecraftrocks> oh its ok
#1844 [20:37] <minecraftrocks> i clicked express for the type or whatever
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#1846 [20:38] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, express should work for most people
#1847 [20:38] <minecraftrocks> it says
#1848 [20:38] <minecraftrocks> the software you are installing has not passed windows logo test
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#1850 [20:38] <minecraftrocks> or whatever
#1851 [20:39] <minecraftrocks> didnt do it another time though
#1852 [20:39] <minecraftrocks> how long does it take?
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#1855 [20:40] <minecraftrocks> thank you so much
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#1857 [20:41] <minecraftrocks> thank you for helping me i needed that help
#1858 [20:41] <akwthird> hi there, my son deleted his minecraft server by accident off of his mac, we are trying to reinstall mincraft server but the process is stopping with the java pop up...not sure what to do
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#1860 [20:43] <Mikkoblu> Hai there. When i start minecraft, i get this error "java.lang.IllegalStateException: Function is not supported
#1861 [20:43] <Mikkoblu> at org.lwjgl.BufferChecks.checkFunctionAddress(BufferChecks.java:64)"
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#1867 [20:48] <minecraftrocks> ok i had to restart my computer now what
#1868 [20:49] <minecraftrocks> tyteen4a03 the computer had to restart now what do i have to do
#1869 [20:49] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, sure, restart it
#1870 [20:49] <minecraftrocks> i already did
#1871 [20:49] <tyteen4a03> akwthird, Mikko_blu: I am reading your questions
#1872 [20:50] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, Minecraft still doesn't run?
#1873 [20:50] <minecraftrocks> let me check
#1874 [20:50] <tyteen4a03> akwthird, are you downloading Minecraft via http://minecraft.net/download?
#1875 [20:50] <tyteen4a03> Mikkoblu, can you paste the whole error log at pastebin.com?
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#1879 [20:52] <minecraftrocks> its just that the screen goes black
#1880 [20:52] <minecraftrocks> OMG YES!
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#1882 [20:52] <minecraftrocks> it worked!
#1883 [20:52] <minecraftrocks> it worked!
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#1885 [20:52] <minecraftrocks> thank you so much!
#1886 [20:53] <minecraftrocks> tyteen thank you very much do you have a name on minecraft
#1887 [20:53] <minecraftrocks> omg
#1888 [20:53] <minecraftrocks> omg
#1889 [20:53] <minecraftrocks> thank you
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#1891 [20:53] <minecraftrocks> wow
#1892 [20:54] <minecraftrocks> that is awesome
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#1894 [20:54] <minecraftrocks> tyteen4a03 thank you
#1895 [20:54] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, no problem
#1896 [20:54] <clueless> i tranistioned my account, and now it won't let me log into my account?
#1897 [20:54] <tyteen4a03> clueless, make sure you are using your Mojang account email and password to log in
#1898 [20:54] <minecraftrocks> its running now and do you have a username on minecraft and a land
#1899 [20:55] <minecraftrocks> or world
#1900 [20:55] <minecraftrocks> i should say
#1901 [20:55] <tooldoghairfoot> where do i find info on changing character name... i've already migrated
#1902 [20:55] <clueless> i recieved email and verified and used it - says it doesn't recogines emai/passwork
#1903 [20:55] <minecraftrocks> that is just amazing
#1904 [20:56] <minecraftrocks> tyteen4a03 do you have an account on minecraft
#1905 [20:56] <tyteen4a03> minecraftrocks, yes
#1906 [20:56] <minecraftrocks> cool
#1907 [20:56] <tyteen4a03> tooldoghairfoot, you cannot change your Minecraft username once it has been set
#1908 [20:56] <minecraftrocks> well thank you very much tyteen4a03
#1909 [20:56] <tyteen4a03> clueless, where are you logging into?
#1910 [20:57] <tooldoghairfoot> so... to have a different name I have to buy the game again... not good
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#1912 [20:58] <minecraftrocks> tyteen4a03 i am outta here
#1913 [20:58] <minecraftrocks> cya
#1914 [20:58] <tyteen4a03> bye
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#1916 [20:58] <clueless> mojang account
#1917 [21:00] <clueless> gives me error unknown account
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#1919 [21:01] <tyteen4a03> clueless, account.mojang.com?
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#1921 [21:02] <clueless> yes
#1922 [21:02] <akwthird> tyteen...we downloaded minecraft.server.jar
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#1925 [21:10] <tyteen4a03> akwthird, you should download minecraft.dmg
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#1932 [21:22] <mrdeafeat> hello?
#1933 [21:22] <tyteen4a03> hi mrdeafeat
#1934 [21:23] <mrdeafeat> This kid i was friends with migrated my account
#1935 [21:23] <mrdeafeat> and i need it back :(
#1936 [21:24] <tyteen4a03> mrdeafeat, did your friend migrate your account with an email you can reach?
#1937 [21:24] <mrdeafeat> No, I try to log in to minecraft.net and it says my account was migrated, but i never migrated it.
#1938 [21:25] <mrdeafeat> and I do not know what his email is.
#1939 [21:25] <tyteen4a03> mrdeafeat, firstly register a Mojang account email, then send your Minecraft username and your transaction ID to Mojang for a manual account switch
#1940 [21:25] <tyteen4a03> ??> mrdeafeat mojang/email
#1941 [21:25] <VoxelHead> mrdeafeat: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1942 [21:26] <mrdeafeat> Crap.
#1943 [21:26] <mrdeafeat> I dont have my card with me :(
#1944 [21:27] <mrdeafeat> But thanks for your help
#1945 [21:27] <tyteen4a03> mrdeafeat, your transaction ID should be on your credit card bill, or your PayPal account history
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#1947 [21:28] <mrdeafeat> it was a gift card. thats why i dont have it with me.
#1948 [21:28] <tyteen4a03> mrdeafeat, I see, then in this case send the gift code
#1949 [21:28] <mrdeafeat> How?
#1950 [21:28] <tracy> bought minecraft CANNOT get logged in to play
#1951 [21:28] <mrdeafeat> 1 sec please
#1952 [21:28] <tyteen4a03> mrdeafeat, just include the gift code in your email
#1953 [21:29] <mrdeafeat> i was here first
#1954 [21:29] <tyteen4a03> ??> mrdeafeat irc/multitasking
#1955 [21:29] <VoxelHead> mrdeafeat: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#1956 [21:29] <tyteen4a03> tracy, Windows I presume?
#1957 [21:29] <tyteen4a03> mrdeafeat, basically we multitask
#1958 [21:29] <mrdeafeat> Coooool
#1959 [21:29] <tracy> yes
#1960 [21:29] <tyteen4a03> tracy, what happens when you launch Minecraft via the standalone launcher?
#1961 [21:29] <mrdeafeat> How do i know my gift code?
#1962 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> mrdeafeat, it is printed on the card
#1963 [21:30] <mrdeafeat> yeah ill have to come back tomarrow... im at a library and dont know it...
#1964 [21:30] <mrdeafeat> WAIT
#1965 [21:30] <mrdeafeat> OMG
#1966 [21:30] <mrdeafeat> got this
#1967 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> mrdeafeat, you don't need to tell us the gift code
#1968 [21:30] <mrdeafeat> ok.
#1969 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> mrdeafeat, you should email Mojang instead
#1970 [21:31] <mrdeafeat> i will.
#1971 [21:31] <mrdeafeat> thanks ty
#1972 [21:31] <tyteen4a03> no problem
#1973 [21:32] <akwthird> tyteen...minecraft.dmg for mac yes? will it be self explanatory....and will enable him to re-create his server?
#1974 [21:32] <tyteen4a03> akwthird, re-create the server?
#1975 [21:32] <tyteen4a03> akwthird, I am confused, are you trying to run the Client or the Server?
#1976 [21:32] <tracy> I'm computer stupid for the most part I bought it for my son I get to the screen where it says to log in type my username and password and it says log in failed
#1977 [21:33] <tyteen4a03> akwthird, there is also a function call Open To LAN in the client, do you mean that?
#1978 [21:33] <tyteen4a03> tracy, make sure you enter your Mojang account email and password
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#1980 [21:33] <tracy> i've tried typing it in a bunch of times and it always tells me log in failed
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#1982 [21:34] <tyteen4a03> tracy, can you go to http://account.mojang.com and log in there?
#1983 [21:34] <callum> Minecraft will not open
#1984 [21:34] <tyteen4a03> tracy, then in the My Games section, do you see Minecraft on the list?
#1985 [21:34] <tyteen4a03> callum, what happens when you try?
#1986 [21:35] <callum> Nothing happens at all, the program doesnt start
#1987 [21:35] <tyteen4a03> callum, has Minecraft worked before?
#1988 [21:35] <callum> Yes it has
#1989 [21:35] <tyteen4a03> ??> callum forceupdate
#1990 [21:35] <VoxelHead> callum: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1991 [21:35] <VoxelHead> callum: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#1993 [21:37] <mrdeafeat> I love you TY <333333333333333333333
#1994 [21:37] <akwthird> the server...he was running his own server and deleted all of teh folders by mistake off of his computer...he has to start over but is having trouble installing teh server on his computer
#1995 [21:37] <tyteen4a03> mrdeafeat, no problem
#1996 [21:38] <tyteen4a03> akwthird, in that case minecraft_server.jar is the file to get, yes
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#1998 [21:38] <callum> Minecraft won't open, so i cant get to that screen
#1999 [21:38] <tyteen4a03> callum, does the launcher not come up at all?
#2000 [21:38] <callum> no it doesnt
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#2002 [21:38] <tyteen4a03> akwthird, also, sinec the world folder lies next to the minecraft_server.jar, so if your son deleted it, the world is gone too
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#2004 [21:39] <callum_> hello?
#2005 [21:39] <akwthird> tyteen...yes I figured all was gobe...but we downloaded teh jar file and it just stall out in the java window...nothing happens...do I need to type something once the java folder is open?
#2006 [21:39] <tyteen4a03> callum_, hi again
#2007 [21:39] <callum_> sorry the connection cut off
#2008 [21:39] <tyteen4a03> !server
#2009 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> callum_, actually, your name is occupied
#2010 [21:40] * tyteen4a03 kicks AuBot
#2010 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> bad bot
#2011 [21:40] <callum_> mine craft will not open at all
#2012 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> anyways akwthird, hang on, there is a command
#2013 [21:40] <akwthird> ok...thank you
#2014 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> callum_, try redownloading Minecraft.exe from http://minecraft.net/download
#2015 [21:41] <tyteen4a03> akwthird, try following this instruction: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Mac_OS_X_instructions
#2016 [21:41] * Moose is now known as Moose\Away
#2017 [21:41] <callum_> I will try that
#2018 [21:41] <callum_> thankyou
#2019 [21:42] <callum_> im sorry but that hasnt worked either
#2020 [21:42] <tyteen4a03> callum_, what version of Java are you using?
#2021 [21:42] <tyteen4a03> ??> callum_ java/version
#2022 [21:42] <VoxelHead> callum_: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2023 [21:42] <VoxelHead> callum_: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2024 [21:42] <akwthird> tyteen thank you...will try
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#2026 [21:43] <callum__> sorry again
#2027 [21:43] <callum__> could you resend that java link
#2028 [21:43] <tyteen4a03> ??> callum__ java/version
#2029 [21:43] <VoxelHead> callum__: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2030 [21:43] <VoxelHead> callum__: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2031 [21:44] <callum__> I link is not working
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#2033 [21:44] <akwthird> tyteen...btw I am a windows user and not good on macs...where do I open textedit on mac?
#2034 [21:44] <tyteen4a03> callum__, how does the above link not work?
#2035 [21:44] <tyteen4a03> akwthird, sorry, I'm not a mac user, hang on
#2036 [21:44] <akwthird> ok thank you
#2037 [21:44] <xales> akwthird: It's in the Applications folder.
#2038 [21:45] <tyteen4a03> xales to the rescue!
#2039 [21:45] <akwthird> tyteen thank you
#2040 [21:45] <xales> Or use Spotlight (type TextEdit into the "search" thing in the top right)
#2041 [21:45] <callum__> when i click on 'vertify java version' and sends me to another page it says 'Internet Explorer has stopped trying to restore this website. It appears that the website continues to have a problem.'
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#2043 [21:45] <tyteen4a03> callum__, use Chrome
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#2046 [21:46] <duke> after i sign in the computer gos to the correct screen but the game will not appear, all i see is "minecraft" and the background
#2047 [21:47] <tyteen4a03> duke, has Minecraft worked before?\
#2048 [21:47] <xales> duke: Has it worked before? Did you try installing any mods/texture packs?
#2049 [21:48] <callum__> i have gone into chrome and it sayd 'java(TM) platform SE U13 has crashed.
#2050 [21:48] <tyteen4a03> ??> callum__ win/javara
#2051 [21:48] <VoxelHead> callum__: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2052 [21:48] <VoxelHead> callum__: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#2053 [21:48] <tyteen4a03> callum__, use this tool to remove all broken Java installations on your PC, then reinstall java 6
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#2055 [21:49] <callum__> use what tool?
#2056 [21:49] <xales> callum__: The one that VoxelHead just explained to you.
#2057 [21:50] <callum__> tyteen4a03, okay thankyou
#2058 [21:50] <tyteen4a03> xales, you're in the US right?
#2059 [21:50] <xales> yeah
#2060 [21:50] <tyteen4a03> callum__, no problem
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#2062 [21:53] <callum__> It is currently installing
#2063 [21:53] <callum__> after i have re-installed it
#2064 [21:53] <callum__> what do i do
#2065 [21:53] <tyteen4a03> callum__, try lauching Minecraft again
#2066 [21:53] <xales> restart your computer, then try running Minecraft again
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#2076 [22:12] <duska> trying to register and the email displayed is incorrect
#2077 [22:14] <xales> Re-register
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#2082 [22:16] <C_ReeperSlayer> Minecraft crashes when trying to play in browser on an iMac with safari
#2083 [22:16] <xales> You can't play in the browser on a mac.
#2084 [22:17] <C_ReeperSlayer> what about on chrome
#2085 [22:17] <clarjon1> You can't play in the browser on a mac.
#2086 [22:17] <xales> If you want to play on a Mac, you have to use the launcher.
#2087 [22:17] <clarjon1> C_ReeperSlayer: Whether it be Firefox, Chrome, Opera, or Safari...
#2088 [22:18] <xales> Internet Explorer for Mac... (which is/was a thing, rofl)
#2089 [22:18] <C_ReeperSlayer> so what did i just pay for
#2090 [22:18] <xales> C_ReeperSlayer: You can /download/ the game and play it.
#2091 [22:18] <xales> You cannot play it in your browser.
#2092 [22:18] <xales> http://minecraft.net/download
#2093 [22:19] <C_ReeperSlayer> ok thanks
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#2095 [22:23] <Dylan_> my son was playing minecraft fine today. he logged off and then when he went to go back on and it said that "you need to run java 1.5.0"
#2096 [22:24] <Dylan_> we already have java.....im not that computer savvy
#2097 [22:24] <tyteen4a03> Dylan_, are you launching Minecraft via the standalone launcher?
#2098 [22:24] <Dylan_> yes, the launcher that is on the desktop. we have windows 8
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#2100 [22:25] <tyteen4a03> Dylan_, what version of Java do you have?
#2101 [22:25] <tyteen4a03> ??> Dylan_ java/version
#2102 [22:25] <VoxelHead> Dylan_: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2103 [22:25] <VoxelHead> Dylan_: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2104 [22:25] <Dylan_> ok i will go look
#2105 [22:27] <Dylan_> it says We are unable to verify if Java is currently installed and enabled in your browser.
#2106 [22:28] <Dylan_> Verifying your Java version will only work in Desktop mode on Windows 8. See the Java on Windows 8 FAQ for more detailed information
#2107 [22:28] <Dylan_> how do i check it from desktop mode??
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#2109 [22:28] <xales> Just try downloading the latest version of Java, and installing it, from http://java.com/
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#2111 [22:32] <bobstevejohn> hello
#2112 [22:32] <bobstevejohn> i need help
#2113 [22:33] <bobstevejohn> ok i need help i cant connect to minecraft.net
#2114 [22:33] <bobstevejohn> anyone there
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#2116 [22:34] <bobstevejohn> anyone there!
#2117 [22:34] <tyteen4a03> hi bobstevejohn
#2118 [22:34] <tyteen4a03> bobstevejohn, has Minecraft worked before?
#2119 [22:34] <bobstevejohn> hello can you help me connect to minecraft.net
#2120 [22:35] <tyteen4a03> bobstevejohn, has Minecraft worked before?
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#2122 [22:35] <bobstevejohn> yes it hasnt worked fro a week and a half
#2123 [22:35] <tyteen4a03> bobstevejohn, try turning off any antiviruses or firewalls you have
#2124 [22:35] <bobstevejohn> i already tried that
#2125 [22:36] <tyteen4a03> bobstevejohn, what antiviruses or firewalls do you have?
#2126 [22:36] <bobstevejohn> i have macafee
#2127 [22:36] <tyteen4a03> bobstevejohn, when did you install it?
#2128 [22:37] <bobstevejohn> a long time befroe minecraft stopped working
#2129 [22:37] <bobstevejohn> a year and a half
#2130 [22:37] <tyteen4a03> bobstevejohn, what did you install before Minecraft stopped working?
#2131 [22:37] <bobstevejohn> ago
#2132 [22:37] <xales> Try temporarily uninstalling it, to eliminate that as the probably (almost certain) cause of Minecraft not working.
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#2134 [22:38] <callum_> hello
#2135 [22:38] <tyteen4a03> hi again callum_
#2136 [22:38] <callum_> i have restarted my computer
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#2138 [22:38] <callum_> but minecraft still wont open
#2139 [22:38] <xales> What does it say when you try to open it?
#2140 [22:38] <tyteen4a03> callum_, what happens when you launch minecraft at http://minecraft.net/play?
#2141 [22:39] <tyteen4a03> xales, been here before, Minecraft.exe doesn't respond, tried javara clean uninstall
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#2143 [22:39] <tyteen4a03> callum, what happens when you launch minecraft at http://minecraft.net/play?
#2144 [22:39] <xales> tyteen4a03: I know
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#2146 [22:40] <callum> after updating java it still comes up with java(TM) platform se 7 u13 has crashed
#2147 [22:40] <bobstevejohn> i did not install anything before it stopped working
#2148 [22:41] <xales> bobstevejohn: Try temporarily uninstalling McAfee, to eliminate that as the probably (almost certain) cause of Minecraft not working.
#2149 [22:41] <tyteen4a03> callum, did you run Javara as we instructed, and get Java 6 instead?
#2150 [22:41] <callum> yes i did
#2151 [22:41] <callum> it said it has updated
#2152 [22:41] <xales> :|
#2153 [22:41] <xales> callum: Do you know how to uninstall programs from the Control Panel?
#2154 [22:43] <callum_> when i downloaded javara, i clicked on the red disk 'update java runtime' and then clicked 'download and install latest verison' and went through that
#2155 [22:43] <callum_> yes i do know how to uninstall a progam :)
#2156 [22:43] <tyteen4a03> callum_, uninstall every Java version you see in the Control Panel, then get Java 6
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#2158 [22:43] <tyteen4a03> ??> callum java/1.6
#2159 [22:43] <VoxelHead> callum: (java/1.6) To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2160 [22:44] <Ryski> hello, can anyone help me out? I get a crash report evrytime after I log in
#2161 [22:44] <tyteen4a03> ??> Ryski pastebin
#2162 [22:44] <VoxelHead> Ryski: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2163 [22:44] <tyteen4a03> Ryski, can you paste your crash report there?
#2164 [22:44] <Ryski> sure
#2165 [22:45] <callum> OK will try thankyou
#2166 [22:45] <Ryski> here http://pastebin.com/a79ik0g6
#2167 [22:47] <xales> Ryski: You'll need to update your graphics card drivers, which you can do here:
#2168 [22:47] <xales> ??> Ryski gpu/nvidia
#2169 [22:47] <VoxelHead> Ryski: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#2170 [22:47] <xales> Click the button for Option 2, to automatically find drivers
#2171 [22:54] <callum> I just have uninstalled them from my computer, then redownloaded the one you linked me to, and now when i try to click on the java program it comes up for a split second a rectangle box thats black and then disappears and does nothing else
#2172 [22:54] <tyteen4a03> callum, what happens when you launch Minecraft via http://minecraft.net/play?
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#2174 [22:56] <callum> comes up with a grey screen with a puzzel piece and says up the top could not load java (TM) platform SE 7 U13
#2175 [22:56] * tyteen4a03 facepalms
#2175 [22:56] <tyteen4a03> callum, did you install Java 6 as we asked you to?
#2176 [22:56] <callum> yes i did
#2177 [22:57] <tyteen4a03> callum, it looks like you did not
#2178 [22:57] <callum> it has just come up with a screen on my computer saying you have successfully downloaded java
#2179 [22:57] <tyteen4a03> callum, how many Java releases do you see in the control panel? also list their names
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#2181 [22:58] <callum> one - java (TM) 6 Update 41
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#2186 [23:00] <idk> when loading minecraft, it goes to a white on top, gray in middle, black on bottom screen
#2187 [23:01] <idk> How do i fix this?
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#2190 [23:02] <callum> hello sorry are you still there?
#2191 [23:02] <idk> yes
#2192 [23:03] <callum> I am unable to help you sorry, I'm waiting for a response from tyteen4a03
#2193 [23:03] <tyteen4a03> uh
#2194 [23:03] <tyteen4a03> idk, where are you getting this screen?
#2195 [23:03] <idk> kayy
#2196 [23:03] <tyteen4a03> callum, restart the computer
#2197 [23:03] <callum> okay
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#2200 [23:03] <idk> after it says updating minecraft
#2201 [23:04] <idk> tlike where it should say the singleplayer/multiplay/texture pack screen
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#2203 [23:06] <callum> okay i just restarted the computer
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#2205 [23:07] <Dylan_> hi i was here a little while ago
#2206 [23:08] <Dylan_> i was supposed to install a new version of java
#2207 [23:08] <idk> does anyone have a solution for the screen
#2208 [23:09] <callum> thankyou so much for all your help, its finally working tyteen
#2209 [23:09] <Dylan_> when i try to do this it tells me that it cannot install it because a previous version is not uninstalled properly. it says to shut down and restart, which i do but it still isn't working. i went to my programs and java isn't even showing up there
#2210 [23:10] <idk> go to remove programs and uninstall it
#2211 [23:10] <callum> hello Dylan, do you know how to uninstall a program?
#2212 [23:10] <Dylan_> i did on windows 7, but i have windows 8 now. I go to my programs and java isn't even there
#2213 [23:13] <Dylan_> i go to my control panel and search for java control panel and nothing is there. i go to uninstall a program and java is not ther.
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#2215 [23:14] <callum> have you started your computer since uninstalling it
#2216 [23:15] <Dylan_> yes a few times
#2217 [23:15] <callum> and it still says you havent completely uninstalled it
#2218 [23:15] <Dylan_> yes
#2219 [23:15] <callum> go to this website http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp and download the new java
#2220 [23:16] <callum> and see what it says when you try
#2221 [23:16] <Dylan_> i have downloaded the new java a few times
#2222 [23:16] <tyteen4a03> uh
#2223 [23:16] <tyteen4a03> xales?
#2224 [23:16] <xales> hm?
#2225 [23:16] <tyteen4a03> xales, ^
#2226 [23:17] <xales> Dylan_: Did you /install/ it?
#2227 [23:17] <tyteen4a03> "when i try to do this it tells me that it cannot install it because a previous version is not uninstalled properly"
#2228 [23:17] <tyteen4a03> so I guess not
#2229 [23:17] <tyteen4a03> ??> Dylan_ win/javara
#2230 [23:17] <xales> oh
#2231 [23:17] <VoxelHead> Dylan_: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2232 [23:17] <xales> yeah that
#2233 [23:17] <VoxelHead> Dylan_: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#2234 [23:17] <callum> tyteen4a03 - i am trying to download the jailcraft texture pack , but when i try and unzip the file it comes up with random things
#2235 [23:17] <Dylan_> ok
#2236 [23:17] <tyteen4a03> callum, we don't support mods
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#2239 [23:18] <callum> okay thankyou
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#2244 [23:27] <Dylan_> voxelhead....i went to the singular labs website
#2245 [23:28] <Dylan_> i went to download and nothing is happening
#2246 [23:28] <xales> What web browser are you using?
#2247 [23:28] <xales> Did it actually start the download?
#2248 [23:28] <Dylan_> windows 8
#2249 [23:29] <xales> That is the operating system you are using, not the web browser you are using.
#2250 [23:29] <xales> Here is a direct link; download it again: http://download.thewebatom.net/50f69935741f0/JavaRa-2.1.zip
#2251 [23:29] <Dylan_> open or save
#2252 [23:29] <Dylan_> it?
#2253 [23:30] <Dylan_> i think i chose open it and it just listed it and i didn't know what to do
#2254 [23:30] <xales> Save it
#2255 [23:31] <xales> Then save it on your desktop.
#2256 [23:31] <xales> Then, go to your desktop and right-click it. There should be an option "Extract All"
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#2258 [23:33] <jedi1jon> um are any minecraft makers on?
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#2260 [23:34] <jedi1jon> any minecraft creators on
#2261 [23:34] <Dylan_> ok i extracted all
#2262 [23:34] <jhkcopper> ordered minecraft via credit card but no confirmation email was recieved. Any idea how long to wait for the email?
#2263 [23:35] <jedi1jon> i know how people can get free minecraft any creators to report this to?
#2264 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> jhkcopper - If you haven't received a confirmation email, most likely your payment was not completed successfully. Check with your bank or financial institution to confirm
#2265 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> jedi1jon - Nothing Mojang can do about it.
#2266 [23:35] <jedi1jon> oh
#2267 [23:35] <jedi1jon> why?
#2268 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> People will find and pirate Minecraft, it's been done ever since Alpha.
#2269 [23:36] <jhkcopper> thanks greyvulpine recieved confirmation # and cannot purch again w/o error. not yet on cc charge list
#2270 [23:36] <jedi1jon> i have an idea for a 'patch' to stop this though
#2271 [23:38] <tyteen4a03> jedi1jon, there is no patch that can 100% stop piracy
#2272 [23:38] <xales> jedi1jon: If there was a way to easily stop it, I think a bunch of professional computer scientists/software developers would have done it already.
#2273 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, any proposed solution to stop this, will also stop legitimate users from running minecraft in offline mode, if they do not have a connection to the internet
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#2275 [23:38] <xales> Dylan_: Open the folder/location it was extracted to and find the .exe file (the one that looks like the program). Run it,.
#2276 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> So, rather than implement DRM, which Mojang frowns highly upon, they'll instead offer incentives to buy minecraft, like providing custom skins and the ability to play in secured minecraft servers
#2277 [23:40] <jedi1jon> my idea was instead of going online on that computer and it downloads the .minecraft folder, it has to be on the specific account trying to log in as to access it
#2278 [23:40] <Dylan_> i dont know how to do htat
#2279 [23:40] <Dylan_> that
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#2281 [23:41] <xales> Dylan_: Did you extract it?
#2282 [23:41] <Dylan_> yes
#2283 [23:41] <xales> Do you see where it put the files it extracted?
#2284 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> jedi1jon - And once the player downloads the .minecraft files, what's to prevent people from simply sharing that folder with non-premium users?
#2285 [23:41] <Dylan_> no
#2286 [23:41] <xales> They will be in the same location as where you saved it.
#2287 [23:41] <xales> If you saved it on your desktop, then the extracted files will be on your desktop, unless you told it to put them somewhere else.
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#2289 [23:42] <Dylan_> i see it under recent places
#2290 [23:42] <xales> Okay, go to it then.
#2291 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> jedi1jon - The launcher already only downloads the .minecraft files with a premium account only. The issue is that people will share the .minecraft folder with others, bypassing that need.
#2292 [23:42] <Dylan_> it says 3 things...localizations, javare and javaredef
#2293 [23:43] <xales> Run JavaRe
#2294 [23:43] <jedi1jon> my idea is to make it like Microsoft Word, it makes hidden files that you must have in order to use the program
#2295 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Um, any hidden files can be easily unhidden.
#2296 [23:44] <xales> jedi1jon: The people who develop Minecraft have years of experience developing software, and probably all have some sort of degree or certification in Computer Science.
#2297 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> obfuscation is not a security measure.
#2298 [23:44] <xales> If there was some easy way to do it, they already would have done it.
#2299 [23:44] <Dylan_> i dont think thats it...it was the little box asking me to download
#2300 [23:44] <xales> If you have some idea for a magical, amazing solution for preventing piracy, write a paper on it and publish.
#2301 [23:45] <xales> Dylan_: You ran "JavaRa" from where the extracted files are?
#2302 [23:45] <Dylan_> i went to recent places
#2303 [23:45] <xales> That's not what I asked you.
#2304 [23:46] <xales> When you saw the 3 things, "localizations" "JavaRa" and "JavaRa.def"
#2305 [23:46] <xales> You need to double-click and run JavaRa
#2306 [23:46] <Dylan_> it didnt say run it said open
#2307 [23:46] <xales> They mean the same thing.
#2308 [23:46] <xales> If you can't figure out these very simple instructions to fix your own problem, then you'll need to hire a professional to do it for you.
#2309 [23:46] <Dylan_> thats what i did...i open it and a box showed up
#2310 [23:47] <xales> Okay, and what does it say in the box?
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#2312 [23:47] <jedi1jon> i am sorry, i crashed
#2313 [23:47] <xales> jedi1jon: The people who develop Minecraft have years of experience developing software, and probably all have some sort of degree or certification in Computer Science.
#2314 [23:47] <xales> If there was some easy way to do it, they already would have done it.
#2315 [23:47] <xales> If you have some idea for a magical, amazing solution for preventing piracy, write a paper on it and publish.
#2316 [23:47] <xales> Otherwise, whatever you say is probably 1: not something that would work or 2: invalid
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#2318 [23:48] <Dylan_> update java runtime,remove java runtime, update java definitions, and additionla tasks
#2319 [23:48] <xales> Click "Remove Java Runtime"
#2320 [23:48] <jedi1jon> where can i tell mojang about my idea
#2321 [23:49] <xales> jedi1jon: As I said, publish a paper.
#2322 [23:49] <jedi1jon> to where?
#2323 [23:49] <xales> If you don't have at the very least a baccalaureate degree in a computing-related field, or equivalent (4) years of experience, your opinion/idea/paper is invalid anyway.
#2324 [23:50] <xales> To a scientific journal?
#2325 [23:50] <Dylan_> ok it took out 2 items
#2326 [23:50] <xales> ._.
#2327 [23:50] <xales> Dylan_: Okay, now try installing Java again, from http://java.com/
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#2329 [23:51] <jedi1jon> can you just tell me where i can report this to mojang?
#2330 [23:51] <xales> jedi1jon: Sure.
#2331 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC
#2332 [23:51] <xales> First, write a detailed explanation of your idea.
#2333 [23:51] <xales> Minimum of 400 words.
#2334 [23:51] <xales> Then move it to /dev/null
#2335 [23:51] <jedi1jon> alright
#2336 [23:52] <jedi1jon> move it?
#2337 [23:52] <xales> Or, in plain-English...
#2338 [23:52] <xales> Minimum of 400 words, then shove it up your rear end
#2339 [23:52] <xales> >_>
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#2341 [23:53] <tyteen4a03> jedi1jon, as GreyVulpine has explained, hidden files can be easily unhidden
#2342 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> jedi1jon doesn't care. He thinks his idea is the greatest thing, and that Mojang obviously hasn't thought up of it yet
#2343 [23:54] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, I see
#2344 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Not knowing that Mojang already handles minecraft like that, only offering the .minecraft files for download upon a premium login, and that any attempt to implement DRM will only hinder legitimate users further.
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#2346 [23:55] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine,
#2347 [23:55] <tyteen4a03> uh
#2348 [23:55] * tyteen4a03 forgot what to say
#2348 [23:55] <tyteen4a03> xales must have eaten my message
#2349 [23:58] <Deleters> Cestishere
#2350 [23:58] <tyteen4a03> Deleters, cool name
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