#1 [00:00] <DSiGameMaster> I know that, but I still play it :3 . I mannaged to get MC Preimium to run on this, but woundering if there is a way I could get Classic running.
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#21 [01:11] <j_> hello
#22 [01:11] <j_> im trying to use Minecraft Classic, im new to minecraft actually and I get this error:
#23 [01:12] <j_> ClassNotFoundException org.lwjgl.util.applet.AppletLoader
#24 [01:12] <Andrio> ??< index
#25 [01:12] <j_> im on a new windows 7 laptop. Does anyone here have any idea what's going on?
#26 [01:12] <j_> i beg your pardon, AndrewPH ?
#27 [01:12] <j_> Andrio, *
#28 [01:13] <Andrio> ??> j_ java/lwjgl
#29 [01:13] <VoxelHead> j_: (java/lwjgl) See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL for a guide on manually updating to a new version of LWJGL.
#30 [01:13] <Andrio> Try that.
#31 [01:13] <Andrio> wait
#32 [01:13] <j_> will do. Thanks
#33 [01:13] <j_> yes?
#34 [01:13] <Andrio> I don't think that applies to classic. -_-
#35 [01:14] <j_> it's okay, I can try the demo
#36 [01:14] <j_> that applies to the demo right?
#37 [01:14] <Andrio> Don't know.
#38 [01:14] * Andrio has never tried the demo. -_-
#38 [01:16] <j_> that's alright. Thanks.
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#44 [01:46] <tyteen4a03> Andrio, we no longer support classic
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#46 [01:47] <kalidor> can i ask a question about mojang accounts here?
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#49 [01:49] <kalidor> I can't log in to my account at all, on minecraft.net or mojang. I can connect on my cobalt game and my minecraft client. I have reset my password SEVERAL times. What is going on?
#50 [01:50] <tyteen4a03> kalidor, (note that I am currently busy and will not be able to answer further responses)
#51 [01:51] <tyteen4a03> kalidor, have you finished your account password reset procedure?\
#52 [01:51] <kalidor> Yes.
#53 [01:51] <tyteen4a03> kalidor, are you using your Mojang account email to log into http://account.mojang.com/me?
#54 [01:51] <kalidor> The new passwords always work on my minecraft client.
#55 [01:51] <kalidor> Yes.
#56 [01:52] <tyteen4a03> kalidor, what error message are you getting?
#57 [01:52] <kalidor> Unknown e-mail address or password.
#58 [01:52] <kalidor> This is tru for both minecraft.net and mojang.
#59 [01:53] <tyteen4a03> hang on\
#60 [01:53] <Lord_Ralex> Do you use your email to log in to the client or your username?
#61 [01:53] <kalidor> EmaiEmail.
#62 [01:53] <kalidor> Sorry, Email
#63 [01:53] <tyteen4a03> kalidor, when was the last time you successfully logged into Mojang Accounts?\
#64 [01:54] <kalidor> Probably a couple of months ago.
#65 [01:54] <kalidor> I haven't tried since then until today.
#66 [01:55] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, I need to go
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#67 [01:56] <Lord_Ralex> .-.
#68 [01:56] <kalidor> .~.
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#70 [01:57] <pyromaniac3814> anyone still here this late ?
#71 [01:57] <tyteen4a03> kalidor, right now all I can suggest is to email mojang with your mojang account email and transaction ID
#72 [01:57] <pyromaniac3814> i guess so
#73 [01:57] <tyteen4a03> pyromaniac3814, just leave your question here and idle for a while
#74 [01:58] <Lord_Ralex> If you are absolutely certain you are using the correct email and your reset passwords, then yeah, what tyteen said is all i can really say at this point
#75 [01:58] <kalidor> The paypal transaction from purchasing minecraft?
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#77 [01:58] <pyromaniac3814> i need to put a currency in place on my minecraft world any ideas on what to use ?
#78 [01:59] <Lord_Ralex> kalidor, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id- will explain what the trans id looks like
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#80 [01:59] <tyteen4a03> pyromaniac3814, that would be a mod
#81 [01:59] <tyteen4a03> pyromaniac3814, we don't support mods here, but on bukkit you can try iConomy
#82 [01:59] <pyromaniac3814> i dont get them i need a item that exsists in game
#83 [02:00] <Lord_Ralex> gold ingots?
#84 [02:00] <pyromaniac3814> i thought about that
#85 [02:00] <Lord_Ralex> emeralds?
#86 [02:00] <tyteen4a03> pyromaniac3814, what do you need this to do?
#87 [02:00] <kalidor> Thanks, Ralex. Which address should I email?
#88 [02:00] <Lord_Ralex> ??> kalidor mojang/email
#89 [02:00] <tyteen4a03> ??> kalidor mojang/email
#90 [02:00] <VoxelHead> kalidor: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#91 [02:00] <tyteen4a03> looool
#92 [02:00] <kalidor> sheesh, alright.
#93 [02:00] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen is just slower than me ;)
#94 [02:01] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, I blame latency
#95 [02:01] <Lord_Ralex> i am on a bouncer
#96 [02:01] <pyromaniac3814> be a simple trading currency in my world that wont fail so quickly from inflation
#97 [02:01] <Lord_Ralex> >_> <_< >_>
#98 [02:01] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, same
#99 [02:01] <tyteen4a03> pyromaniac3814, for multiplayer?
#100 [02:01] <pyromaniac3814> yes
#101 [02:01] <pyromaniac3814> cant be emralds
#102 [02:01] <Lord_Ralex> pyromaniac3814, gold is probably the most common to use for the some what rarity and lack of uses
#103 [02:01] <tyteen4a03> pyromaniac3814, iConomy allows you to use a block as a trading currency
#104 [02:02] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, iconomy does have bugs ;)
#105 [02:02] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, well he gets what he asks for :P
#106 [02:02] <Lord_Ralex> :P
#107 [02:02] <pyromaniac3814> yea i cant put on a mod anyhow
#108 [02:02] <pyromaniac3814> lol
#109 [02:02] <Lord_Ralex> it is a pure vanilla server?
#110 [02:02] <pyromaniac3814> yes
#111 [02:02] <tyteen4a03> pyromaniac3814, if you can't put on mods, all you can do is have everybody consent to a set of rules you set
#112 [02:02] <pyromaniac3814> let me clarify
#113 [02:03] <pyromaniac3814> xbox 360 server
#114 [02:03] <kalidor> I would just use animals such as cows or pigs.
#115 [02:03] <Lord_Ralex> ah, 360
#116 [02:03] <pyromaniac3814> yes
#117 [02:03] <Lord_Ralex> that does actually help a bit more
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#119 [02:04] <pyromaniac3814> lol pigs
#120 [02:04] <Lord_Ralex> then yeah, really gold is your best bet, or diamonds if you feel lucky
#121 [02:04] <Lord_Ralex> maybe glowstone, but that requires somewhat a bit of work to get
#122 [02:04] <pyromaniac3814> cant use them lol fortune 3 brakes it .but the gold should work ok
#123 [02:04] <pyromaniac3814> nope
#124 [02:04] <pyromaniac3814> glowstone cant
#125 [02:05] <pyromaniac3814> its infinite
#126 [02:05] <Lord_Ralex> you can remake glowstone?
#127 [02:05] <Lord_Ralex> well, make it infinite?
#128 [02:05] <pyromaniac3814> xbox has limited maps
#129 [02:05] <tyteen4a03> so you're asking for a currency that is a currency (cannot be easy to get)
#130 [02:05] <pyromaniac3814> they needed more glowstone
#131 [02:05] <tyteen4a03> *item
#132 [02:06] <pyromaniac3814> so blazes drop 0-2
#133 [02:06] <Lord_Ralex> blazes can drop glowstone?
#134 [02:06] <pyromaniac3814> yep
#135 [02:06] <Lord_Ralex> man, i am behind >_>
#136 [02:06] <pyromaniac3814> fixed the limitted poitions
#137 [02:06] <Lord_Ralex> yeah, you are either using iron, gold, or diamonds which are all non-renewable
#138 [02:07] <kalidor> Uh. so.. I bought minecraft a couple years ago. Should I contact paypal for the ID?
#139 [02:07] <Lord_Ralex> gold is so rarely used it works the best
#140 [02:07] <tyteen4a03> kalidor, your transaction ID will still be in your PayPal purchase history
#141 [02:07] <tyteen4a03> kalidor, just take a deep breath and dive :)
#142 [02:07] <pyromaniac3814> yea im gonna use gold i think just because people dont use it for anything realy besides rails
#143 [02:08] <Lord_Ralex> i always make gold armor <_< >_> <_<
#144 [02:08] <pyromaniac3814> nuggets or bars ?
#145 [02:08] <pyromaniac3814> lol budder hat
#146 [02:08] <Lord_Ralex> you get 9 nuggets per bar, and each vein is what 4-6?
#147 [02:08] <Lord_Ralex> you would probably do better with bars
#148 [02:09] <pyromaniac3814> yea or make it cost more nuggets one of the two
#149 [02:10] <pyromaniac3814> thought about moss stone or cocobeans
#150 [02:10] <Lord_Ralex> to me they are too rare
#151 [02:10] <pyromaniac3814> yea coco beans
#152 [02:11] <pyromaniac3814> idk about moss stone
#153 [02:11] <pyromaniac3814> what version do they make them plantable ?
#154 [02:16] <pyromaniac3814> cocobeans that is
#155 [02:16] <kalidor> I've sent an email regarding my situation. When I receive a response I'll let you guys know, in case the solution is simple and fixable on my end.
#156 [02:17] <kalidor> 1.4
#157 [02:17] <pyromaniac3814> thanks
#158 [02:18] <pyromaniac3814> :( i have to wait a while for them though
#159 [02:18] <kalidor> I just wanted to change my skin to kaneda from akira :C
#160 [02:18] <pyromaniac3814> is 32 gbof ram enough to rune MC ?
#161 [02:18] <pyromaniac3814> GB of *
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#163 [02:18] <Lord_Ralex> pyromaniac3814, the server or client?
#164 [02:18] <pyromaniac3814> client
#165 [02:18] <Lord_Ralex> what cpu and gpu?
#166 [02:19] <Lord_Ralex> you only really need 1G free RAM usually, you usually don't need more than that
#167 [02:19] <Lord_Ralex> and more ram != better performance
#168 [02:19] <pyromaniac3814> 4.2 GHz quad core
#169 [02:19] <Lord_Ralex> gpu?
#170 [02:20] <Lord_Ralex> you can run it with everything i know, and it will actually be good really
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#172 [02:20] <Lord_Ralex> unless you have a crap gpu
#173 [02:20] <Lord_Ralex> why do you have 32gb ram .-.
#174 [02:20] <starweaver_> ive got a small problem with the outline on the blocks
#175 [02:21] <pyromaniac3814> lol my friends bulding me a good gaming rig
#176 [02:21] <Lord_Ralex> pyromaniac3814, you don't need 32
#177 [02:21] <pyromaniac3814> yea
#178 [02:21] <Lord_Ralex> you probably don't even need more than *
#179 [02:21] <Lord_Ralex> 8
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#181 [02:21] <Lord_Ralex> i have 6 and i don't even come close to using it all
#182 [02:21] <kalidor> 32 gigs of ram wont help you with metro 2033
#183 [02:22] <pyromaniac3814> he sayed he would add it just to make it good for the future games
#184 [02:22] <starweaver_> when ever the suns up the outline on the blocks become see through and i can see the sun on the other side
#185 [02:22] <Lord_Ralex> pyromaniac3814, na
#186 [02:22] <Lord_Ralex> don't waste that money
#187 [02:22] <kalidor> are you using a shader mod?
#188 [02:22] <Lord_Ralex> by the time you need 32 GB ram, there will be faster ram you will want
#189 [02:22] <starweaver_> nope
#190 [02:22] <starweaver_> nothing but normal
#191 [02:22] <Lord_Ralex> just get 8GB and you will be fine pyromaniac3814
#192 [02:22] <pyromaniac3814> ok
#193 [02:23] <pyromaniac3814> will 32 run a server ?
#194 [02:23] <Lord_Ralex> it is way more than what you want
#195 [02:23] <Lord_Ralex> the cpu will cap out way before that
#196 [02:23] <pyromaniac3814> lol but will it ?
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#198 [02:23] <pyromaniac3814> hahaha
#199 [02:23] <pyromaniac3814> i see
#200 [02:23] <Lord_Ralex> again, more ram != better
#201 [02:24] <pyromaniac3814> it also has two vid cards that link or something i forget what its called
#202 [02:24] <Lord_Ralex> if you wanted to, you could get a mobo that has an extra ram slot in case you wanted to get more
#203 [02:24] <Lord_Ralex> but you won't need 32GB
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#205 [02:25] <pyromaniac3814> yea yea i know
#206 [02:25] <Lord_Ralex> wonder if i have that pc\icker list
#207 [02:25] <Lord_Ralex> picker*
#208 [02:25] <pyromaniac3814> thats a sweet site
#209 [02:26] <Lord_Ralex> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GidW someone was building that i saw
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#211 [02:26] <Lord_Ralex> that will hold you for a while
#212 [02:26] <Lord_Ralex> (ignore the OS bit)
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#214 [02:26] <Lord_Ralex> (the win7 it needs is only $90, not the $180)
#215 [02:27] <starweaver_> well so much for this being a minecraft help room
#216 [02:27] <Lord_Ralex> starweaver_, not everyone knows how to fix your issue
#217 [02:27] <Lord_Ralex> if you can show a screenshot that would be a bit nice
#218 [02:28] <starweaver_> i know that
#219 [02:28] <starweaver_> how would i put a screen shot in here
#220 [02:28] <Lord_Ralex> http://imgur.com
#221 [02:28] <Lord_Ralex> press F2 in game, get that screenshot from your minecraft folder, upload it there, then link the image form the site here
#222 [02:28] <pyromaniac3814> lol im sorry guys :( i have a habbit of turning these rooms on to the wrong topick
#223 [02:29] <starweaver_> k
#224 [02:30] <starweaver_> http://imgur.com/aNUM72W,nzfU8j9
#225 [02:31] <Lord_Ralex> looks like a gpu setting
#226 [02:31] <starweaver_> how would i fix
#227 [02:31] <Lord_Ralex> have to recall which it might ne
#228 [02:31] <Lord_Ralex> be*
#229 [02:32] <starweaver_> geforce gt 525m
#230 [02:32] <Lord_Ralex> i believe it is the OpenGL settings
#231 [02:33] <pyromaniac3814> well thanks for the help guys
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#233 [02:33] <starweaver_> how would i get to those settings
#234 [02:33] <Lord_Ralex> it would be your nvidia control panel
#235 [02:34] <Lord_Ralex> not sure what they are called
#236 [02:34] <Lord_Ralex> not sure what they are called
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#241 [02:38] <W_C> I have stopped playing mc and are tired of having the account what can i do??
#242 [02:39] <Lord_Ralex> W_C, it is not possible to delete an account
#243 [02:39] <Lord_Ralex> All you can do is just stop using it
#244 [02:39] <starweaver_> well thats fixed the outline problem and now its not finding my 64bit java
#245 [02:39] <Lord_Ralex> starweaver_, what do you mean not finding? and how did it run then?
#246 [02:39] <W_C> Can I sell it to a.friend?? or can i give it to them
#247 [02:40] <Lord_Ralex> W_C, no
#248 [02:40] <starweaver_> well i have java 64bit but
#249 [02:40] <W_C> why not?
#250 [02:40] <starweaver_> its saying that i only have 32bit java
#251 [02:40] <Lord_Ralex> W_C, because it is yours
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#268 [02:41] <Lord_Ralex> starweaver_, how can you tell?
#269 [02:41] <Lord_Ralex> starweaver_, how can you tell? (in case the join messages pushed it out of sight)
#270 [02:42] <starweaver_> cos i just downloaded it
#271 [02:42] <starweaver_> like 2 hours ago
#272 [02:42] <Lord_Ralex> i mean how you can tell MC is using 32 bit java?
#273 [02:42] <W_C> Lord_Ralex why?
#274 [02:42] <starweaver_> in the render distance settings
#275 [02:42] <Lord_Ralex> starweaver_, oh
#276 [02:43] <Lord_Ralex> starweaver_, you can probably reinstall java, or run a bat file to force it to use 64-bit
#277 [02:43] <starweaver_> how would i force it to use it
#278 [02:44] <Lord_Ralex> you create a bat file with the following: "%ProgramFiles%/Java/jre7/bin/java.exe -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -cp Minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#279 [02:44] <Lord_Ralex> and run the bat file instead of the exe
#280 [02:45] <starweaver_> id rather re install it
#281 [02:45] <W_C> no help
#282 [02:45] <Lord_Ralex> https://minecraft.net/terms
#283 [02:47] <W_C> im not doing anything illegal im selling the account not the software... i bought the accoujt
#284 [02:47] <Lord_Ralex> https://account.mojang.com/terms
#285 [02:48] <Lord_Ralex> against the terms of Mojang and Minecraft
#286 [02:48] <W_C> ive read tha many.times i dont see it
#287 [02:48] <Lord_Ralex> "The one major rule is that you must not distribute anything we‘ve made. By “distribute anything we‘ve made” what we mean is “give copies of the game away, make commercial use of, try to make money from, or let other people get access to our game and its parts in a way that is unfair or unreasonable”."
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#289 [02:50] <W_C> im not doind any of that... all im doind is letting a friemd play on my comp but its his account because im going to sell it to jim
#290 [02:50] <Lord_Ralex> "try to make money from,"
#291 [02:50] <Lord_Ralex> "give copies of the game away"
#292 [02:51] <W_C> i paid for it though
#293 [02:51] <Lord_Ralex> that does not matter
#294 [02:51] <Lord_Ralex> Those are the terms of using their software
#295 [02:51] <Lord_Ralex> And anything they have made
#296 [02:51] <Lord_Ralex> You paid for you to have it
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#298 [02:52] <Lord_Ralex> Giving it away is breaking the terms
#299 [02:52] <Lord_Ralex> Selling it breaking the terms
#300 [02:52] <W_C> what can they do to stop me though?
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#302 [02:52] <Lord_Ralex> They can disable the account if they so wished
#303 [02:52] <W_C> im not going to do it its illegal
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#305 [02:53] <W_C> whatever cwn he play on it on my comp with my supervision??
#306 [02:54] <Lord_Ralex> Terms will tell you no, he is free to play the demo and the classic version if he wants
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#309 [02:55] <W_C> ok thanks!!
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#319 [03:37] <gussy> why cant i sign in to my minecraft account,, i have entered the correct details 3 times now, and it keeps telling me incorrect username or password
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#323 [03:41] <kellie> i cannot login to minecraft after launching the program. There is a failed login message. Also there is a (not downloaded) under the login. I am using the right username and password. I followed the trouble shooting suggestion of "forced update" in options. Does anyone have advice on how to fix this?
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#355 [06:31] <Stevieb> Hi guys, trying to run minecraft of a horribly low spec PC, as far as I can see it SHOULD run without issue, however I keep getting Java errors. I'm running latest versions etc. Tried a few of the forums and generally Googling the issue, but I'm none the wiser. I'm hoping one of you guys might have an idea. This is the error log: http://pastebin.com/gC1L5Kg1
#356 [06:35] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Stevieb win/dxdiag
#357 [06:35] <VoxelHead> Stevieb: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#358 [06:35] <VoxelHead> Stevieb: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#359 [06:35] <Stevieb> I'll do that now.
#360 [06:35] <Lord_Ralex> but from what i see from this, it might be too old
#361 [06:36] <Lord_Ralex> but we can see
#362 [06:36] <Stevieb> As requested. http://pastebin.com/r13KRWmN
#363 [06:37] <Lord_Ralex> Thank you
#364 [06:37] <Stevieb> Thank YOU. ;) It's my work PC, so to be fair it's probably better for my productivity that I can run it here in the office, doesn't stop me wanting to though!
#365 [06:38] <Stevieb> *can't run it here....
#366 [06:38] <Lord_Ralex> the gpu is unable to understand something that minecraft wants it to do
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#368 [06:38] <Stevieb> Do you think it's a bit of a lost cause?
#369 [06:38] <Lord_Ralex> eh
#370 [06:38] <Lord_Ralex> there is 2 different things we can do
#371 [06:38] <Stevieb> Ok
#372 [06:38] <Lord_Ralex> 1 is to see if there is an update for the gpu
#373 [06:38] <Lord_Ralex> which i am looking to see if there is now
#374 [06:39] <Lord_Ralex> or 2, have the cpu do that work instead
#375 [06:39] <Stevieb> Ok.
#376 [06:40] <Lord_Ralex> and from what i see, it is too old
#377 [06:40] <Lord_Ralex> so, we go with the second option
#378 [06:40] <Lord_Ralex> one sec
#379 [06:40] <Stevieb> No problem, thanks for your help.
#380 [06:41] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Stevieb win/intelgpu
#381 [06:41] <VoxelHead> Stevieb: (win/intelgpu) Sometimes, having an old Intel Integrated GPU on Windows XP might cause Minecraft to not run. (Please note that computers that have old Intel Integrated GPUs usually have low performance, and purchasing a new computer will, in the long run, be better for you.)
#382 [06:41] <VoxelHead> Stevieb: (win/intelgpu) Control Panel > Display > Settings > Advanced > Troubleshoot, turn Hardware acceleration to below half (or off).
#383 [06:41] <Lord_Ralex> While you don't have an intel gpu, it is the similar idea here
#384 [06:42] <Lord_Ralex> From what I am seeing though, if that does not work, then it is probably a lost cause
#385 [06:42] <Stevieb> Ok, I have turned it off. I'll give it a try now and see what happens.
#386 [06:45] <Stevieb> New error, this time from inside minecraft about bad video card drivers. I reckon it's a bit of a lost cause to be honest. Not a big deal, I'll just restrict my gameplay to my own time as opposed to office hours!
#387 [06:45] <Lord_Ralex> Might be wise ;)
#388 [06:45] <Stevieb> Thanks again guys, I really appreciate the help and advice.
#389 [06:45] <Stevieb> Second thoughts, I could just buy a new work PC...:P
#390 [06:46] <Stevieb> Thanks again, better get back to work. ;)
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#419 [09:03] <niko0803> ever time i eat my screem frosen
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#432 [09:46] <RamzezzIII> Can nit start Minecraft. Dubbelklick on exe file. Then nothing is happening
#433 [09:47] <RamzezzIII> doubbleclick
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#464 [10:05] <CptSpaceToaster> !paid diggertron1
#465 [10:05] <CptSpaceToaster> !paid diggertron1
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#476 [10:52] <creepkiller23> as soon as i type something to chat minecraft freezes
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#479 [10:59] <acerspyro> Hello?
#480 [11:00] <acerspyro> GreyVulpine, I'm sorry for yesterday. My internet cutted unexpectedly.
#481 [11:01] <acerspyro> Someone?
#482 [11:02] <acerspyro> |:[
#483 [11:02] <acerspyro> |:[
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#488 [11:13] <xXtremeXavier> hey all need help with mincraft
#489 [11:14] <xXtremeXavier> i downloaded a texture pack and then deleted it and now it wont work it just keeps saying building terrain???
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#492 [11:15] <blackdead33> good evening
#493 [11:16] <xXtremeXavier> hi blackdeed]
#494 [11:16] <xXtremeXavier> anychance you know anything about texture packs or more specifically deleting them?
#495 [11:16] <blackdead33> cud some 1 help me a littel bit?
#496 [11:17] <blackdead33> mmm if im right its just in your folder
#497 [11:17] <blackdead33> sow wen u gow to textureszs u can chance it back to default en than add texture and than delete them
#498 [11:18] <blackdead33> thats how i did it
#499 [11:18] <xXtremeXavier> well my son deleted it and now it wont load just says building terrain?
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#501 [11:18] <blackdead33> buth i hafe the problem that i hafe a new computer and now minecraft dosnt start anymore :(
#502 [11:18] <blackdead33> it says i should update mye drivers buth there are no new drivers
#503 [11:19] <blackdead33> it drivers me crazy
#504 [11:19] <xXtremeXavier> could be it doesnt recognise them as they are lastest
#505 [11:20] <CptSpaceToaster> xXtremeXavier Are you trying to get rid of a texture pack?
#506 [11:20] <xXtremeXavier> no my son deleted them and now it wont load
#507 [11:20] <CptSpaceToaster> alright... lets check this:
#508 [11:20] <CptSpaceToaster> xXtremeXavier: In the Client, click on texture packs: http://i.imgur.com/sORJH32.png
#509 [11:21] <CptSpaceToaster> xXtremeXavier: Then click on default: http://i.imgur.com/odWstH9.png
#510 [11:22] <CptSpaceToaster> xXtremeXavier: If it all works out, you should be able to play minecraft using the default texture pack.
#511 [11:22] <xXtremeXavier> still not doing anything that option isnt there??
#512 [11:22] <CptSpaceToaster> You are not able to select default?
#513 [11:22] <blackdead33> x treme u dont come farther than the start screen?
#514 [11:23] <blackdead33> than you should force an upgrade in the options menu
#515 [11:23] <xXtremeXavier> i can select it it still just says building terrain and kicks me out
#516 [11:24] <CptSpaceToaster> xXtremeXavier: On the Login page, click the Options Button, then select Force Update: http://i.imgur.com/sP7htsu.png
#517 [11:24] <CptSpaceToaster> xXtremeXavier: Then log in as normal, and try playing a game
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#519 [11:26] <xXtremeXavier> ok how do you get launcher options as im new to this
#520 [11:26] <xXtremeXavier> got it sorry bit of a noob lol
#521 [11:28] <xXtremeXavier> nope still not loading
#522 [11:30] <xXtremeXavier> and not letting me choose default either?
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#524 [11:32] <xXtremeXavier> do i need to redownload the standard texture pack/
#525 [11:32] <xXtremeXavier> ???
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#527 [11:33] <benhunter09> xXtremeXavier: are you on windows?
#528 [11:33] <xXtremeXavier> yes im on win 7
#529 [11:33] <benhunter09> ??> xXtremeXavier win/.minecraft
#530 [11:33] <VoxelHead> xXtremeXavier: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#531 [11:33] <benhunter09> Go there and delete everything but the saves folder
#532 [11:35] <xXtremeXavier> ok done that
#533 [11:36] <benhunter09> Now run minecraft like you normally would
#534 [11:37] <xXtremeXavier> nope still building terrain and not going in
#535 [11:37] <xXtremeXavier> its really doing my nut in lol
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#537 [11:38] <benhunter09> Have you tried a force update?
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#539 [11:40] <xXtremeXavier> yep tried force update still not working
#540 [11:41] <benhunter09> Hmm
#541 [11:41] <benhunter09> I'm not sure
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#543 [11:42] <Klosjaarrr> xXtremeXavier, what is the problem?
#544 [11:43] <xXtremeXavier> my son has deleted a texture pack now minecraft wont load or work
#545 [11:44] <Klosjaarrr> Redownload the texturepack and do a force update and try again
#546 [11:44] <xXtremeXavier> have tried force updating and deleting local files but still no joy it wont let me select the default pack
#547 [11:44] <Klosjaarrr> Did you try removing all files in your minecraft folder? (make sure to make a backup of your safegames)
#548 [11:45] <xXtremeXavier> no i was told to leave save games and delete rest
#549 [11:45] <Klosjaarrr> Try to removing the whole folder AFTER making a backup of your games
#550 [11:46] <xXtremeXavier> ok will do
#551 [11:46] <Klosjaarrr> Copy the folder .minecraft/saves to your desktop, for example
#552 [11:48] <xXtremeXavier> ok done all that
#553 [11:48] <Klosjaarrr> Didn't worked?
#554 [11:49] <xXtremeXavier> just trying now]
#555 [11:49] <Klosjaarrr> Okay
#556 [11:51] <xXtremeXavier> still wont let me use default texture pack
#557 [11:51] <Klosjaarrr> What is exactly happening?
#558 [11:51] <Klosjaarrr> Can't you click it in the menu?
#559 [11:52] <xXtremeXavier> no i cant
#560 [11:53] <Klosjaarrr> You are on Win7 right?
#561 [11:54] <xXtremeXavier> yep
#562 [11:54] <Klosjaarrr> Close minecraft, go to your minecraft folder and open 'Options', then search for 'skin:XXX' and change it to 'skin:Default'
#563 [11:54] <Klosjaarrr> ??> xXtremeXavier win/.minecraft
#564 [11:54] <VoxelHead> xXtremeXavier: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#565 [11:54] <Klosjaarrr> And try to run it then
#566 [11:54] <Klosjaarrr> (options.txt)
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#568 [11:56] <ekinuysal> hi
#569 [11:56] <ekinuysal> i bought minecraft
#570 [11:56] <Klosjaarrr> hi
#571 [11:56] <ekinuysal> but i can't login
#572 [11:56] <Klosjaarrr> How long ago did you buy it?
#573 [11:56] <ekinuysal> it always fails and doesn't accept my username
#574 [11:56] <ekinuysal> 2 months ago
#575 [11:57] <Klosjaarrr> !!paid ekinuysal
#576 [11:57] <Klosjaarrr> !paid ekinuysal
#577 [11:57] <Klosjaarrr> What is the username?
#578 [11:57] <ekinuysal> ekin_uysal@hotmail.com
#579 [11:57] <ekinuysal> i think it is
#580 [11:57] <ekinuysal> because it said that "use your e_mail address as username"
#581 [11:58] <ekinuysal> and i bought the minecraft at another e_mail address
#582 [11:58] <Klosjaarrr> Did you register as a Minecraft user or did you use a Mojang account?
#583 [11:58] <ekinuysal> i registered at mojang and then bought the game
#584 [12:00] <Klosjaarrr> http://minecraft.net/login
#585 [12:00] <Klosjaarrr> Try to login here
#586 [12:00] <Klosjaarrr> With the username and password
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#588 [12:00] <Klosjaarrr> (in your case emai as username)
#589 [12:00] <Klosjaarrr> email*
#590 [12:00] <ekinuysal> and password? same as mojang password?
#591 [12:00] <Klosjaarrr> Yes
#592 [12:00] <xXtremeXavier> it syas default skin but still not loading
#593 [12:01] <xXtremeXavier> sorry had to sort out one of the kids so took longer than expected lol
#594 [12:01] <ekinuysal> ok
#595 [12:01] <Klosjaarrr> And if you create a new world in singleplayer?
#596 [12:01] <ekinuysal> i logged in
#597 [12:01] <Klosjaarrr> Okay, now click on
#598 [12:01] <Klosjaarrr> Store
#599 [12:02] <Klosjaarrr> Do you see the message 'This account is already premium. Thank you!'?
#600 [12:02] <ekinuysal> no
#601 [12:02] <Klosjaarrr> Then you must have used another email to buy minecraft
#602 [12:02] <xXtremeXavier> still says building terrain and not loading
#603 [12:03] <xXtremeXavier> ok now loaded
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#605 [12:03] <ekinuysal> ok then i will check it now
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#607 [12:03] <Klosjaarrr> Okay, well I think your world is corrupted then xXtremeXavier
#608 [12:03] <Klosjaarrr> Do you still have that backup?
#609 [12:03] <xXtremeXavier> how the hell can i sort that?
#610 [12:04] <xXtremeXavier> yes i have the save data
#611 [12:04] <Klosjaarrr> If you have a backup, try to remove the world from the menu and then place the backup world back in the folder
#612 [12:05] <xXtremeXavier> the world has been removed already
#613 [12:05] <Klosjaarrr> Okay, now try to load the backup again
#614 [12:06] <xXtremeXavier> still says building terrain and not loading
#615 [12:07] <xXtremeXavier> then goes back to main menu
#616 [12:07] <Klosjaarrr> ?? corruptedworld
#617 [12:08] <Klosjaarrr> ?? index
#618 [12:08] <Klosjaarrr> Try this
#619 [12:08] <Klosjaarrr> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Recover_corrupted_saved_world_data
#620 [12:08] <ja> I recently started playing minecraft, play a few times but now I cant get into the game to play. i shut down all my antivirus, I updated java, I have re downloaded... the screen says downloaded, or is just a black screen.
#621 [12:08] <xXtremeXavier> possibly i will delete and he can start again i think its only a few days worth but knowing him he will take it hard lol
#622 [12:08] <Klosjaarrr> ja, did you try to install modifications (mods)?
#623 [12:09] <Klosjaarrr> Okay xXtremeXavier
#624 [12:09] <ja> i dont know wht mods are. dont think my kids did that either
#625 [12:09] <Klosjaarrr> Okay, what OS are you running?
#626 [12:10] <ja> what are os?
#627 [12:10] <Klosjaarrr> Windows / Linux and such
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#629 [12:11] <acerspyro> Is it still empty here?
#630 [12:11] <Klosjaarrr> Depends
#631 [12:11] <Klosjaarrr> :3
#632 [12:11] <acerspyro> Ah
#633 [12:11] <ja> oh operating systems.
#634 [12:11] <acerspyro> I've been looking around on many websites for help
#635 [12:11] <Klosjaarrr> Yes ja
#636 [12:11] <Klosjaarrr> acerspyro, what
#637 [12:11] <Klosjaarrr> s your problem?
#638 [12:11] <acerspyro> How do you know that was my qustion, ja?
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#640 [12:12] <acerspyro> I can't run minecraft on BSD
#641 [12:12] <acerspyro> I can get the launcher to start, login, but not download the game.
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#643 [12:13] <ja> be back in a in-phone call
#644 [12:13] <acerspyro> it says something like "Unable to download" "Unknown error(2): null)
#645 [12:13] <Klosjaarrr> And if you download the minecraft filed and place them manually?
#646 [12:13] <Klosjaarrr> files*
#647 [12:13] <acerspyro> Where do I get those files?
#648 [12:14] <Klosjaarrr> Install minecraft on a windows/linux/mac machine and transfer the files, for example
#649 [12:14] <acerspyro> Wait, I've got a linux computer near me
#650 [12:14] <Calinou> acerspyro: lol, BSD :P
#651 [12:14] <Calinou> normally, minecraft can run on BSD...
#652 [12:14] <acerspyro> brb, need to switch my VGA cable
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#654 [12:14] <Klosjaarrr> Yea, indeed
#655 [12:14] <Calinou> but maybe you'll have to download lwjgl by hand
#656 [12:15] <acerspyro> brb
#657 [12:15] <acerspyro> Argh
#658 [12:15] <acerspyro> I remember I don't have internet on this comp... |:[
#659 [12:15] <acerspyro> I have something like MC 1.2.5
#660 [12:15] <Klosjaarrr> Well, you can search on google
#661 [12:15] <Klosjaarrr> but make sure that you have an ACTIVE virus scanner
#662 [12:16] <acerspyro> Like ClamAV?
#663 [12:16] <clarjon1> On BSD?
#664 [12:16] <Klosjaarrr> and be very careful when downloading files from untrusted sources
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#666 [12:16] <Klosjaarrr> Yes clarjon1, even on BSD
#667 [12:16] <clarjon1> I was just confirming the OS, klos :P
#668 [12:17] <Klosjaarrr> oh
#669 [12:17] <Klosjaarrr> xD
#670 [12:17] <xXtremeXavier> looks like im gonna have to let him build a new one as this is not working but thanks everyone for time and help :))
#671 [12:17] <acerspyro> Found it already, that was quick :3
#672 [12:17] <clarjon1> acerspyro: Which BSD variant?
#673 [12:17] <acerspyro> Free
#674 [12:17] <acerspyro> FreeBSD 7.4
#675 [12:17] <Klosjaarrr> Good acerspyro, just transfer the files and try then :)
#676 [12:17] <acerspyro> kk
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#678 [12:17] <clarjon1> acerspyro: http://blogkarenblog.blogspot.ca/2012/01/minecraft-freebsd.html
#679 [12:18] <clarjon1> "How to run the Minecraft Client on FreeBSD"
#680 [12:18] <acerspyro> I'm gonna check that. thx
#681 [12:18] <Klosjaarrr> ^^
#682 [12:18] <Wug> blugh
#683 [12:18] <acerspyro> :D
#684 [12:19] <Klosjaarrr> Hi Wug
#685 [12:19] <acerspyro> I don't even have the linux compatibility port :P
#686 [12:19] <acerspyro> Brb, switching to console mode
#687 [12:19] * Corin|Away is now known as Corin
#688 [12:20] <acerspyro> linux_base is installing
#689 [12:21] <acerspyro> done
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#691 [12:21] <acerspyro> Do you think that installing a linux java VM should fix the problem?
#692 [12:21] <acerspyro> I still want to be able to download the updates like everyone else
#693 [12:22] <clarjon1> Ooh.
#694 [12:22] <acerspyro> I need pkg_sun_jdk.
#695 [12:22] <acerspyro> brb
#696 [12:22] <clarjon1> acerspyro: There's also a comment that apparently there's a minecraft client port for FreeBSD, games/minecraft-client
#697 [12:23] <acerspyro> RLLY???
#698 [12:23] <acerspyro> Going into the FreeBSD tree
#699 [12:24] <acerspyro> ... or did you read minecraft_server perhaps?
#700 [12:24] <acerspyro> This one, i saw
#701 [12:24] <clarjon1> http://www.freshports.org/games/minecraft-client/
#702 [12:25] <acerspyro> No minecraft port else than minecraft server for 1.2.3...
#703 [12:25] <acerspyro> Thx.
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#705 [12:26] <MrSkyman457> Hi, how do you send crash reports to mojang?
#706 [12:26] <Wug> MrSkyman457: ;l
#707 [12:26] <Wug> well
#708 [12:26] <MrSkyman457> Yes
#709 [12:26] * Mikko_blu is now known as Mikko_TV
#710 [12:26] <clarjon1> acerspyro: Hopefully that'll run for ya :)
#711 [12:26] <Wug> first pastebin it here and we'll assess if its a known issue
#712 [12:27] <acerspyro> Yes, I'm fetching lwgjl.
#713 [12:27] <acerspyro> It was missing :P
#714 [12:27] <MrSkyman457> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Why did you do that? Time: 05/03/13 17:24 Description: Unexpected error java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: cpw/mods/fml/common/network/IGuiHandler at qz.<init>(EntityArrow.java:125) at tb.a(SourceFile:30) at ur.b(SourceFile:310) at qx.bO(SourceFile:143) at ayo.c(SourceFile:311) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.l(SourceFile:1282) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.J(SourceFile:582) at net.mi
#715 [12:27] <Klosjaarrr> ??> MrSkyman457 pastebin
#716 [12:27] <VoxelHead> MrSkyman457: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#718 [12:28] * clarjon1 facepalm
#718 [12:28] <clarjon1> He did it in this browser window/tab...
#719 [12:29] <Wug> I should go, will bbl.
#720 [12:30] <clarjon1> take care wug
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#722 [12:31] <acerspyro> Here, I installed lwjgl
#723 [12:32] <andy_> my minecraft keeps running ou of memory, and iv tried doing the things suggested how can it be fixed?
#724 [12:32] <andy_> and my minecraft keeps becomeing slow
#725 [12:32] <acerspyro> It cannot initialise loader, it says
#726 [12:33] <andy_> is that a question?
#727 [12:33] <acerspyro> Oh and andy_, a graphic card would help alot more than RAM
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#729 [12:33] <andy_> whats a graphic card?
#730 [12:33] <Klosjaarrr> andy_, are you running the default texturepack? I would suggest you install Optifine, it's a mod that will increase performance
#731 [12:33] <acerspyro> And no, it's an affirmation to my question
#732 [12:34] <Radon> Hello! How do I run Minecraft so it will use a different .minecraft folder than the one hidden in AppData?
#733 [12:34] <Klosjaarrr> A graphic card is a hardware card that handles your screen output
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#735 [12:34] <Radon> I don't want to use %appdata%\.minecraft, I want to use a different folder.
#736 [12:34] <acerspyro> Radon, I think there's a setting for that in MCPatcher, right?
#737 [12:34] <Klosjaarrr> The better the card, the better your performance will be
#738 [12:34] <andy_> i dont know whata default texture pack is?
#739 [12:35] <acerspyro> Klossjaarrr, I used to run XP on this very computer, but it became unbootable and I lost all my files.
#740 [12:35] <Klosjaarrr> Oh
#741 [12:35] <acerspyro> I have a great vid card with 1.2 GB of RAM
#742 [12:35] <Radon> My girlfriend plays Minecraft on a slooow laptop with integrated graphics on a GS45 chipset. It's really slow, unplayable, without optifine.
#743 [12:35] <acerspyro> It runs REALLY smooth
#744 [12:35] <Klosjaarrr> Good :)
#745 [12:35] <andy_> whats a texturepack?
#746 [12:35] <acerspyro> If I get the drivers for my Nvidia card on U|NIX, it will continue to do so.
#747 [12:36] <Radon> A pack of textures used in hte game.
#748 [12:36] <acerspyro> Lol
#749 [12:36] <andy_> speak more basic english please, youre not making sence
#750 [12:36] <acerspyro> Sorry, your question made me laugh internally. You seem new to the game.
#751 [12:36] <Radon> A texture is a image file that is used as wallpaper on the otherwise single color quads.
#752 [12:36] <Radon> Does that make sense?
#753 [12:37] <acerspyro> Andy, go on google and type misa's texturepack. open the .zip file and check the terrain.png file.
#754 [12:37] <acerspyro> Download it before opening it... :P
#755 [12:37] <Radon> Each side of each block in Minecraft use a piece of texture. The pieces of textures are cut out of a big image file.
#756 [12:38] <Radon> It's like wallpaper.
#757 [12:38] <Lord_Ralex> A texture pack changes how blocks and items look, all that really needs to be said
#758 [12:38] <acerspyro> You can have 16X16, 32X32, 64X64 and so on
#759 [12:38] <Radon> Really? :o ;)
#760 [12:38] <acerspyro> Yes, to install a texturepack, put it in your texturepack folder in .minecraft
#761 [12:38] <Radon> Any idea how to tell Minecraft to use anything other than %appdata%\.minecraft?
#762 [12:38] <Lord_Ralex> Radon, symlinks
#763 [12:38] <Radon> I'm using Forge and Optifine
#764 [12:39] <acerspyro> But, may I ask, why do you want to switch your minecraft folder?
#765 [12:39] <Radon> True, symlinks.... why I haven't I thought of that before? -__-
#766 [12:39] <Radon> I want Minecraft to be on another drive.
#767 [12:39] <andy_> so how can i make it run smoother?????
#768 [12:39] <Lord_Ralex> andy_, are you on windows
#769 [12:39] <andy_> yes
#770 [12:39] <acerspyro> Thought so...
#771 [12:39] <Lord_Ralex> ??> andy_ win/dxdiag/bat
#772 [12:39] <VoxelHead> andy_: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#773 [12:39] <VoxelHead> andy_: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#774 [12:40] <andy_> why?
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#776 [12:40] <Lord_Ralex> andy_, so we can see your specs
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#778 [12:40] <andy_> whats a spec?
#779 [12:40] <Lord_Ralex> Because we have no idea what you can mean by lag, or where it can be coming from
#780 [12:41] <Lord_Ralex> Specs is your hardware
#781 [12:41] <Lord_Ralex> Hardware is the computer parts
#782 [12:41] <acerspyro> Computer parts are computer parts
#783 [12:42] <andy_> yes i know that, i dont wanna send you information about my computer.
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#785 [12:43] <Lord_Ralex> andy_, if you have lag, then your computer is not able to keep up with the same
#786 [12:43] <Lord_Ralex> that is usually older or slower hardware
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#788 [12:44] <Klosjaarrr> andy_, we can't really help you if you are not coorperating
#789 [12:44] <acerspyro> Trying to run!
#790 [12:45] <acerspyro> It can't even try to load the .minecraft folder to see if it is present...
#791 [12:45] <acerspyro> Maybe a java calling library is missing?
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#793 [12:51] <Klosjaarrr> ?? list
#794 [12:51] <Klosjaarrr> fail
#795 [12:51] <Klosjaarrr> ?? index
#796 [12:52] <clarjon1> hmmm
#797 [12:52] <quadeshboy> is there anyway to keep your progression and format computer
#798 [12:52] <clarjon1> acerspyro: which java are you using?
#799 [12:52] <Lord_Ralex> quadeshboy, as in back up your stuff?
#800 [12:52] <acerspyro> You caught me just as I passed back to X mode :P
#801 [12:52] <acerspyro> Uhh wait
#802 [12:53] <quadeshboy> ya keep my stuff and format harddrive
#803 [12:53] <Lord_Ralex> quadeshboy, are you on windows?
#804 [12:53] <Klosjaarrr> quadeshboy: Put your files on a second drive (for example D:\) and then format the C:\ drive
#805 [12:53] <quadeshboy> yes
#806 [12:53] <Klosjaarrr> Or transfer them to an USB stick
#807 [12:53] <Lord_Ralex> ??> quadeshboy win/.minecraft
#808 [12:53] <VoxelHead> quadeshboy: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#809 [12:54] <acerspyro> openJDK 1.7.0.16
#810 [12:54] <Lord_Ralex> The folders you *need* to back up are the saves
#811 [12:54] <Lord_Ralex> You can back the rest of if you want, however the saves is all your worlds
#812 [12:54] <quadeshboy> all
#813 [12:54] <clarjon1> hmm.
#814 [12:54] <quadeshboy> ok ty very much
#815 [12:54] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, you never told us the error
#816 [12:55] <acerspyro> Ok, here it comes
#817 [12:55] <acerspyro> I can start the launcher
#818 [12:55] <acerspyro> I can log in
#819 [12:55] <acerspyro> But as it shows the dirt screen
#820 [12:55] <acerspyro> a message appears
#821 [12:55] <acerspyro> Lemme get it
#822 [12:55] <Lord_Ralex> Please do
#823 [12:56] <clarjon1> acerspyro: Can you pastebin the output from the terminal from running the minecraft.jar? :)
#824 [12:56] <acerspyro> Fatal error
#825 [12:56] <acerspyro> Failed to launch (2): null
#826 [12:56] <acerspyro> I already have a report ready
#827 [12:56] <Lord_Ralex> pastebin it please
#828 [12:56] <acerspyro> I thought about it
#829 [12:58] <acerspyro> http://pastebin.com/embed.php?i=mZqs9mhj
#830 [12:58] <acerspyro> Dis what you want?
#831 [12:58] <Lord_Ralex> no
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#833 [12:59] <acerspyro> oops, I see my error :P
#834 [12:59] <laur> how can i reset my account. waiting for password via email and it's not showing up
#835 [12:59] <acerspyro> http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=mZqs9mhj
#836 [12:59] <clarjon1> acerspyro: No no, the output from that java -jar minecraft.jar command
#837 [12:59] <acerspyro> That's what it is
#838 [13:00] <Klosjaarrr> laur, did you check your spam folder?
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#840 [13:00] <acerspyro> I need to use verbose mode
#841 [13:00] <laur> yes its not there
#842 [13:00] <acerspyro> Otherwise, no log
#843 [13:00] <acerspyro> OOH
#844 [13:00] <acerspyro> This is only what java loads!
#845 [13:00] <acerspyro> not what minecraft doe!
#846 [13:00] <acerspyro> does*
#847 [13:01] <acerspyro> Well, I will surely need MCPatcher for that, eh?
#848 [13:01] <clarjon1> eh.
#849 [13:01] <Lord_Ralex> no
#850 [13:01] <acerspyro> How, then?
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#852 [13:01] <Lord_Ralex> literally "java -jar minecraft.jar" should be
#853 [13:02] <Lord_Ralex> but try: java -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#854 [13:02] <clarjon1> acerspyro: here's an example, from my own minecraft's output... http://privatepaste.com/8dac7045d0
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#856 [13:02] <clarjon1> when minecraft hits an error, it spits out the java error messages.
#857 [13:03] <clarjon1> It should do the same on freebsd, unless some configuration file is muting the errors.
#858 [13:03] <clarjon1> Which would be outside of minecraft
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#860 [13:03] <acerspyro> No, if I type java -jar /root/Desktop/Downloads/minecraft.jar, it gives me nothing
#861 [13:03] <acerspyro> Only start it
#862 [13:04] <Lord_Ralex> why are you root is my first question
#863 [13:04] <acerspyro> I'm always root
#864 [13:04] <clarjon1> Running it as root?
#865 [13:04] <clarjon1> Try running it not as root?
#866 [13:04] <acerspyro> I know it's dangerous, but I prefer it...
#867 [13:04] <Lord_Ralex> freebsd i assume has sudo
#868 [13:04] <acerspyro> What would it change?
#869 [13:04] <clarjon1> Hmmmm.
#870 [13:04] <Lord_Ralex> sudo lets you have root
#871 [13:04] <Lord_Ralex> without making the acconut root
#872 [13:04] <acerspyro> I know
#873 [13:05] <Lord_Ralex> and you would not be running minecraft as root
#874 [13:05] <acerspyro> But only for the console
#875 [13:05] <acerspyro> Wait, I'm gonna create an account
#876 [13:06] <clarjon1> i'm testing my mc as root.
#877 [13:06] <Lord_Ralex> i think it might run
#878 [13:06] <Lord_Ralex> but wanting to know the stacktrace with the null bit
#879 [13:06] <Lord_Ralex> 2 is when it is determining packages to load
#880 [13:08] <acerspyro> Oh
#881 [13:10] <acerspyro> clarjon, you use UNIX?
#882 [13:10] <clarjon1> yup
#883 [13:10] <acerspyro> Nice
#884 [13:10] <acerspyro> So, did it run?
#885 [13:10] <clarjon1> it did
#886 [13:10] <acerspyro> -_-
#887 [13:10] <clarjon1> There -should- be a stacktrace being generated, acer.
#888 [13:11] <acerspyro> It does not
#889 [13:11] <acerspyro> Java starts
#890 [13:11] <acerspyro> I have a blank spot on my console
#891 [13:11] <acerspyro> Then back to the command line
#892 [13:11] <acerspyro> Minecraft starts after
#893 [13:11] <acerspyro> Odd...
#894 [13:11] <clarjon1> That is odd.
#895 [13:11] <Lord_Ralex> wait
#896 [13:12] <Lord_Ralex> openjdk ?
#897 [13:12] <clarjon1> Perhaps the mcerror launcher might provide more details?
#898 [13:12] <clarjon1> https://sourceforge.net/projects/minecrafterror/files/latest/download?source=irc
#899 [13:12] <Lord_Ralex> are you using openjdk
#900 [13:12] <clarjon1> Lord_Ralex: Yeah, from what i've seen on google, openjdk works better with minecraft on freebsd than sun/oracle java
#901 [13:13] <acerspyro> Yep I am
#902 [13:13] <Lord_Ralex> clarjon1, just did my own google
#903 [13:13] <Lord_Ralex> and some blame openjdk
#904 [13:13] <acerspyro> I GOT IT!
#905 [13:13] <acerspyro> I used your trick you said later
#906 [13:13] <acerspyro> You said to use the java -cp stuff
#907 [13:13] <acerspyro> I have a lof
#908 [13:13] <acerspyro> log*
#909 [13:14] <Lord_Ralex> use the Linux-sun-jre16 port
#910 [13:14] <acerspyro> Linux? kk
#911 [13:14] <acerspyro> GameUpdater cannot load the URLs it says
#912 [13:15] <acerspyro> asdf Fatal error occured (2): null java.lang.NullPointerException at net.minecraft.GameUpdater.fatalErrorOccured(GameUpdater.java:808) at net.minecraft.GameUpdater.loadJarURLs(GameUpdater.java:190) at net.minecraft.GameUpdater.run(GameUpdater.java:209) at net.minecraft.Launcher$1.run(Launcher.java:76)
#913 [13:15] <acerspyro> Sorry
#914 [13:15] <acerspyro> is it still readable?
#915 [13:15] <Lord_Ralex> yeah
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#917 [13:15] <acerspyro> kk
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#919 [13:16] <Lord_Ralex> https://cooltrainer.org/2010/09/20/playing-minecraft-on-freebsd/
#920 [13:16] <acerspyro> followed link
#921 [13:16] <Lord_Ralex> old, but relevant
#922 [13:16] <Calinou> dat BSD user is still here
#923 [13:16] * Calinou makes the systemd dance
#923 [13:16] <Lord_Ralex> "java/linux-sun-jdk16, audio/linux-f10-openal-soft, and enabling Linux support in x11/nvidia-driver" ?
#924 [13:17] <mil> helo i have a probleme withe minecraft
#925 [13:17] <Calinou> mil: ask your question?
#926 [13:17] <acerspyro> I hope so... |:[
#927 [13:18] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, output of: java -version
#928 [13:18] <acerspyro> And thanks alot, lord_ralex.
#929 [13:18] <Calinou> inb4 java 5
#930 [13:18] <acerspyro> I said it later, it's java 7
#931 [13:18] <mil> i write me usurnam and me password and nothink....
#932 [13:18] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, we want the otput
#933 [13:18] <Lord_Ralex> not the verion
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#935 [13:18] <Lord_Ralex> well, it is the version
#936 [13:18] <acerspyro> Wait
#937 [13:18] <Lord_Ralex> but i want to see the entire thing
#938 [13:19] <mil> i test withe java 7, 6 but nothink....
#939 [13:19] <mil> i teste withe me email too
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#942 [13:21] <acerspyro> openjdk version "1.7.0_06" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_06-b24) OpenJDK Client VM (build 23.2-b09, mixed mode)
#943 [13:21] <Lord_Ralex> you are using the openjdk
#944 [13:21] <acerspyro> Gah, couldn't copy and paste from Xterm...
#945 [13:21] <acerspyro> I know...
#946 [13:22] <Lord_Ralex> "This one, however, isn’t Minecraft’s fault. It’s a known problem with OpenJDK on FreeBSD. "
#947 [13:22] <acerspyro> I read from your link
#948 [13:22] <Lord_Ralex> install the sun java
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#950 [13:24] <Lord_Ralex> although don't get why they are using the jdk instead of jre there (for sun, not openjdk)
#951 [13:25] <acerspyro> JDK is for Java Development Kit
#952 [13:25] <acerspyro> And, indeed, it's absurd.
#953 [13:26] <Lord_Ralex> i know what jdk and jre is :P
#954 [13:26] <Lord_Ralex> http://www.freshports.org/java/linux-sun-jre17 is what you want, unless there is some reason why it needed the jdk
#955 [13:26] <acerspyro> I hope
#956 [13:27] <acerspyro> It's downloading
#957 [13:27] <acerspyro> Slowly, but it is
#958 [13:28] <acerspyro> brb
#959 [13:29] <acerspyro> Back\
#960 [13:30] <acerspyro> clarjon
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#963 [13:30] <acerspyro> Was it hell of a job for you to set up wireless network?
#964 [13:31] <Calinou> nope.avi
#965 [13:31] <acerspyro> Don't show me a video saying that you don't :P
#966 [13:31] <acerspyro> Why the .avi?
#967 [13:31] <Calinou> BSD users watch videos?
#968 [13:31] <Calinou> didn't know
#969 [13:32] <acerspyro> :P
#970 [13:32] <acerspyro> Yes, we do
#971 [13:32] <acerspyro> We play minecraft too
#972 [13:32] <acerspyro> My wondows XP got destroyed by a virus friday night
#973 [13:32] <acerspyro> windows*
#974 [13:33] <acerspyro> Everything > gone!
#975 [13:33] <acerspyro> I didn't have a windows cd, just a set of 3 BSD discs
#976 [13:33] <acerspyro> I like it after all
#977 [13:33] <acerspyro> It's flexible
#978 [13:34] <Calinou> just like linux but with worse HW support, smaller community
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#980 [13:34] <acerspyro> Yes, but it is linux's base
#981 [13:34] <drsqurrial> my game has crashed what do i do
#982 [13:34] <acerspyro> And it can run mac, linux, windows, dos and unix binaries
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#984 [13:34] <acerspyro> What a report, bro!
#985 [13:35] <acerspyro> More info?
#986 [13:35] <acerspyro> Wadda? He went and left?
#987 [13:36] <acerspyro> |:[
#988 [13:36] <acerspyro> My download is at 85%, but remember that I'm wireless
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#990 [13:37] <Calinou> ethernet ftw
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#992 [13:38] <acerspyro> I know, but the router's plugs are full
#993 [13:38] <acerspyro> I'm just 15, I don't own the house!
#994 [13:38] <acerspyro> My download has finished
#995 [13:38] <acerspyro> How do I install that linux thing?
#996 [13:39] * Klosjaarrr is now known as Klosjaarrr`Eten
#997 [13:39] <acerspyro> Hello?
#998 [13:40] <acerspyro> Can anyone read me? How do I install that stuff?
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#1000 [13:44] <jacoboo975> how do i give an error reaport
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#1002 [13:46] <acerspyro> Why do they connect, wait one second and then quit?
#1003 [13:48] <Eddie> They didn't eat their vegetables as a child.
#1004 [13:48] <acerspyro> ?
#1005 [13:48] <acerspyro> lol
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#1007 [13:50] <acerspyro> Hello, Minecraft IRC service. How can we help you?
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#1009 [13:51] <acerspyro> Wireless is so slow...
#1010 [13:51] * Grim_Reaper hugs Marc_IRL
#1010 [13:51] <Marc_IRL> heyo
#1011 [13:51] <benhunter09> Where is my hug :(
#1012 [13:51] * Grim_Reaper hugs benhunter09
#1012 [13:52] <benhunter09> :)
#1013 [13:52] * acerspyro hugs acerspyro
#1013 [13:52] <acerspyro> ',:D
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#1015 [13:52] <Marc_IRL> I made a thing. I am not very good with these things though. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4510067/accounts%20and%20profiles.png
#1016 [13:53] <Grim_Reaper> Im trying to make a tree
#1017 [13:53] <Grim_Reaper> But Im not very good at making trees
#1018 [13:53] <Calinou> Marc_IRL: people play cobalt and scrolls?
#1019 [13:53] <Marc_IRL> yep
#1020 [13:53] <acerspyro> wut's dat graph?
#1021 [13:53] <Calinou> cobalt, or how to use lua for a full game
#1022 [13:53] <Marc_IRL> Though, of the four, that wasn't the one I was expecting a comment on :p
#1023 [13:53] <Calinou> (luajit? is it fast?)
#1024 [13:54] <acerspyro> Yee! dl is done!
#1025 [13:54] <Marc_IRL> That's not a graph, it's a flowchart :p
#1026 [13:54] <Marc_IRL> It shows how accounts work
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#1029 [13:54] <acerspyro> Ah
#1030 [13:54] <acerspyro> I bought my account in 1.1. when is that?
#1031 [13:55] <Marc_IRL> ?
#1032 [13:55] <Calinou> january 2012
#1033 [13:56] <Marc_IRL> I may get someone to make it prettier
#1034 [13:57] <Marc_IRL> Because I can see how people would be confused by how accounts work
#1035 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL I can make it prettier
#1036 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> Give me a few
#1037 [13:57] <Lord_Ralex> add rainbows
#1038 [13:57] <Marc_IRL> Well, it may get added to the site, so I might ask Junkboy
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#1040 [14:02] <acerspyro> Lol to install an RPM package, I need RPM which needs several packages which needs several packages...
#1041 [14:02] <acerspyro> And my connexion is too slow sysinstall would complain
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#1044 [14:07] <Scank433> oi
#1045 [14:07] <Scank433> ALGUEM PODE ME AJUDAR
#1046 [14:07] <Scank433> #minecrafthelp!
#1047 [14:08] <Marc_IRL> Well, that's universal, it seems. HELP MEEEEE *quits*
#1048 [14:08] <ShaRose> I've seen better
#1049 [14:08] <ShaRose> join, please help, leave within 6 seconds
#1050 [14:09] <ShaRose> more than once, mind you
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#1054 [14:12] <Grim_Reaper> Ok Marc_IRL. Are you ready?
#1055 [14:12] <Marc_IRL> My body is ready
#1056 [14:13] <Grim_Reaper> ok
#1057 [14:13] <Grim_Reaper> Well it took some hard work. But I think I got the design you're looking for
#1058 [14:13] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/p6wXTjK.jpg
#1059 [14:13] <ShaRose> aww, I was expecting a channel orgy
#1060 [14:13] <Lord_Ralex> Grim_Reaper, i now love you
#1061 [14:13] <Grim_Reaper> <3
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#1063 [14:14] <Lord_Ralex> although you lost the arrows
#1064 [14:14] <Grim_Reaper> The arrows are still there
#1065 [14:14] <Grim_Reaper> They're just less noticable
#1066 [14:14] <Marc_IRL> ohgodohgodohgod kill it with fire
#1067 [14:14] <Lord_Ralex> ;-;
#1068 [14:14] <Grim_Reaper> What
#1069 [14:14] <Grim_Reaper> You asked for pretty so I gave you pretty!
#1070 [14:14] * Lord_Ralex saves
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#1071 [14:21] <acerspyro> Hard job, fetching packages isn't as easy as mining after all...
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#1074 [14:24] <Grim_Reaper> https://twitter.com/Serenko_Games/status/309019874762571776 Marc_IRL
#1075 [14:25] <Marc_IRL> I always find it weird when people start a tweet with a username, because it limits who sees it
#1076 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> Oh it does?
#1077 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> How amusing
#1078 [14:26] <ShaRose> didn't think it did
#1079 [14:26] <ShaRose> partially since I can see them just fine
#1080 [14:26] <Marc_IRL> It will only show in the feeds of people who follow both of us
#1081 [14:26] * Smanly is now known as Smanly|Away
#1082 [14:26] <Marc_IRL> Though anyone who links to it directly can still see it
#1083 [14:26] <Lord_Ralex> i see it and i don't follow him from his twitter page
#1084 [14:26] <Marc_IRL> If you start with someone's name, it's the same as just sending them a tweet
#1085 [14:27] <Marc_IRL> Do you see it in your twitter feed?
#1086 [14:27] <ShaRose> I don't follow either of you can I can see it
#1087 [14:27] <Marc_IRL> AGAIN, anyone can see it by direct link
#1088 [14:27] <Lord_Ralex> not directly
#1089 [14:27] <ShaRose> no, I mean in his feed
#1090 [14:27] <Lord_Ralex> on his twitter feed i see it
#1091 [14:27] <Marc_IRL> I KNOW
#1092 [14:28] <Marc_IRL> If you are a twitter user, and I say "@steve Minecraft is great", and you follow me, but not Steve, you do not see this in your feed
#1093 [14:28] <Marc_IRL> If you also follow Steve, you see it
#1094 [14:28] <Marc_IRL> So whenever I tweet at a Mojangsta, or start a tweet with their name, the only people who see it in their feed are people who mutually follow us
#1095 [14:29] <Marc_IRL> That's why you sometimes see people put a period in front of a name, that way it still starts a tweet with a name, but all of their followers see the tweet
#1096 [14:30] <ShaRose> I don't really use my feed anyways
#1097 [14:30] <ShaRose> if I want to see what someone is saying I'll look at what they are saying
#1098 [14:30] <ShaRose> if you look at what everyone is talking about it one feed it just gets jumbled up: it's like IRC, but having multiple channels all mixed together and no way to tell what's going on
#1099 [14:31] <Marc_IRL> I never go directly to someone's profile, I don't have time to stalk.
#1100 [14:31] <Marc_IRL> I follow a limited number of people that I want to hear from, and read like 80-90% of those tweets
#1101 [14:31] <Marc_IRL> (from my feed)
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#1103 [14:31] <ShaRose> you assume I care what people say on twitter on a regular basis
#1104 [14:31] <ShaRose> (I don't)
#1105 [14:31] <ShaRose> I maybe look at twitter like
#1106 [14:32] <ShaRose> a few times a week
#1107 [14:32] <ShaRose> at most
#1108 [14:32] <Marc_IRL> No, I don't assume anything. I'm just telling you how I have mine set up, because I do care what the people I follow say, because it's my close social network.
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#1110 [14:33] <Marc_IRL> People use twitter in different ways. I'll never be the person who follows 1000 people and glances at the feed every day or two. I feel like the people I follow often have relevant news, so I try to catch it.
#1111 [14:34] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1112 [14:34] <Marc_IRL> Which is why I'll never understand the people who ask me to follow them on Twitter, it's like subscribing to a car magazine, it's not relevant to me :p
#1113 [14:34] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL follow me *coughs*
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#1116 [14:37] <FilipRM6> Hi, I am unable to login to minecraft.net. I migrated my account recently to mojang...
#1117 [14:37] <FilipRM6> I am using email instead of user name
#1118 [14:38] <Lord_Ralex> FilipRM6, what error are you getting?
#1119 [14:38] <FilipRM6> Oops, unknown username or password. If you are logging in with a Mojang account make sure to use your e-mail address as username.
#1120 [14:38] <FilipRM6> I did password reset to ensure I have right pass
#1121 [14:39] <Marc_IRL> Are you using your email to log in now? What's your username?
#1122 [14:40] <FilipRM6> I am using email
#1123 [14:40] <FilipRM6> I am not sure I want to share email here
#1124 [14:40] <Marc_IRL> I didn't ask for your email address
#1125 [14:40] <Marc_IRL> What is your public username?
#1126 [14:41] <FilipRM6> same as my name here
#1127 [14:42] <Marc_IRL> Your email address is the same as the one that you originally signed up for Minecraft with. Be sure you are using that one. The password shows that it was reset about ten minutes ago. The registered email can receive emails from Mojang, so follow the instructions in the password reset email. When you log in with the correct email and password, it will work.
#1128 [14:43] <FilipRM6> ok
#1129 [14:43] <FilipRM6> now it works
#1130 [14:44] <FilipRM6> how long does it take from password reset to successful change on minecraft.net web?
#1131 [14:44] <Marc_IRL> A few seconds, usually
#1132 [14:45] <Marc_IRL> It changes your password for all Mojang services, including minecraft.net
#1133 [14:45] <FilipRM6> ok, thanks
#1134 [14:45] <FilipRM6> have a nice daz
#1135 [14:45] <FilipRM6> day
#1136 [14:45] <FilipRM6> bye now
#1137 [14:46] <Marc_IRL> It's amazing how many problems are solved by following the instructions and waiting a few moments. I literally did nothing to help him.
#1138 [14:47] <ShaRose> generally if it's "follow the instructions you clearly skipped" I ignore them until they start to whine
#1139 [14:47] <ShaRose> then I point out all they had to do was follow the instructions and insult them
#1140 [14:47] <ShaRose> not like I'm paid to be nice~
#1141 [14:48] <Marc_IRL> So, that's why customers keep complaining that "a Mojang employee was condescending to me and I want to talk to a manager and demand a refund"
#1142 [14:48] <ShaRose> nah
#1143 [14:48] <ShaRose> I almost never talk in here
#1144 [14:48] <Marc_IRL> Well, I get those complaints from time to time, and they're always from the chat ;-)
#1145 [14:48] <ShaRose> ofc, and I'd bet they are all made up
#1146 [14:49] <ShaRose> there ARE people that do that
#1147 [14:49] <Marc_IRL> I doubt at all that they're made up
#1148 [14:49] <Marc_IRL> Why would someone complain that someone in the chat was rude to them, and just make it up?
#1149 [14:49] <Marc_IRL> I've watched people be dicks to players in here
#1150 [14:49] <ShaRose> yeah, and they should know we aren't mojang employees
#1151 [14:50] <ShaRose> there's only a handful of you guys
#1152 [14:50] <ShaRose> the fact that they asked for a manager ALONE should be proof they didn't know what they were talking about
#1153 [14:50] <ShaRose> and were using the manager card to get what they want
#1154 [14:50] <ShaRose> quite often I had people pull the same shit when I was at att
#1155 [14:50] <Marc_IRL> Heh, they probably should know, but if they can't figure out how to set their password, they're probably not going to be able to figure out that the people from the link on the company website who are helping them are not employees.
#1156 [14:51] <ShaRose> true
#1157 [14:51] <ShaRose> but like I was saying
#1158 [14:51] <Marc_IRL> I get absolutely awful emails every day. People who rage "I couldn't find a link to contact you!!!!! How do I contact Mojang???", in the email that they've sent me. That kind of stuff.
#1159 [14:51] <ShaRose> I've had people get me, me doing the right thing but not what they wanted (like give me a free iphone), get mad, call me a moron, hang up
#1160 [14:52] <ShaRose> call back the next day and say the guy they spoke with the last day was mean and swearing at them
#1161 [14:52] <Grim_Reaper> [21:51] <@Marc_IRL> I get absolutely awful emails every day. People who rage "I couldn't find a link to contact you!!!!! How do I contact Mojang???", in the email that they've sent me. That kind of stuff.
#1162 [14:52] * Grim_Reaper snickers
#1162 [14:52] <Grim_Reaper> I feel sorry for you
#1163 [14:52] <Grim_Reaper> But I know exactly how you feel to a point
#1164 [14:52] * Grim_Reaper used to do email support for hosting company in usa
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#1165 [14:53] <ShaRose> pull up notes and "oh I remember you, it was me that you spoke to and I can assure you I wasn't being impolite in any way. However, if you want to speak to a manager I can get you to one, though note they can pull up audio recordings of previous calls if they feel the need to."
#1166 [14:53] <ShaRose> they usually shut up and did what I wanted sheepishly after that
#1167 [14:53] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, I used to do phone customer service too, for a few years. Call recordings were great.
#1168 [14:53] <ShaRose> sometimes they hung up again to get someone else, in which case I specifically noted EXACTLY what I said
#1169 [14:54] <ShaRose> once they called back as soon as they hung up and they literally got the person sitting next to me
#1170 [14:54] <ShaRose> that was fun
#1171 [14:54] <Marc_IRL> Sometimes we'd have people hang up, and call back to get someone else, repeatedly. So, we'd spread it around the call center, or make a note that person was to be routed to a supervisor, who could properly spank them for their bullshit behavior.
#1172 [14:54] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1173 [14:55] <ShaRose> they were going on about how I had them on hold for 20 minutes, person next to me was like "I was watching that call, he didn't even have you on the phone for 5. He's sitting literally right next to me."
#1174 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> haha
#1175 [14:55] <acerspyro> Anyone playing on UNIX here? Just wondering...
#1176 [14:55] <ShaRose> my center actually sucked for that tbh
#1177 [14:55] <Marc_IRL> Sometimes, I just have to tell customers that they're wrong. It's not rude, it's just that whatever thing they are thinking is wrong, and they're not helping. Then it's all "this is the worst customer service I've ever gotten"
#1178 [14:55] <ShaRose> yeah
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#1180 [14:56] <acerspyro> ShaRose, you do?
#1181 [14:56] <ShaRose> I responded with "I do apologize, but the policy states X, and (previous rep, probably from customer care) was wrong."
#1182 [14:56] <acerspyro> Ah
#1183 [14:56] <acerspyro> Sorry
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#1185 [14:56] <ShaRose> ye, windows only here
#1186 [14:56] <Eric_> i just pusrchased minecraft went to make a profile and it says i already used my token?? what do i do
#1187 [14:56] <acerspyro> I UNIX
#1188 [14:56] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, did oyu do what i had linked earlier
#1189 [14:56] <ShaRose> I was always, ALWAYS polite when on the phone
#1190 [14:56] <acerspyro> Yes
#1191 [14:56] <ShaRose> even when they didn't deserve it
#1192 [14:56] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, and what happened?
#1193 [14:56] <acerspyro> Java RPM is downloading
#1194 [14:57] <ShaRose> hell, when they got on with bullshit I usually turned up the nice JUST TO PISS THEM OFF MORE
#1195 [14:57] <acerspyro> I could finally install the RPM program to install linux binaries
#1196 [14:57] <ShaRose> nothing ticks people off like the person you are talking to refusing to fall for your bullshit
#1197 [14:57] <Lord_Ralex> might quadboot with freebsd just to try it
#1198 [14:57] <ShaRose> nothing
#1199 [14:57] <acerspyro> That was a real pain in the ass, tho
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#1203 [14:58] <acerspyro> And I must thank you alot, lord_ralex
#1204 [14:58] <ShaRose> an alot of thank yous
#1205 [14:58] <travis> my sound on mindcraft does not work
#1206 [14:58] <acerspyro> 1. there is no mindcraft
#1207 [14:58] <acerspyro> 2. plug your speaker
#1208 [14:59] <acerspyro> 3. assure yourself none of your sound inputs are on mute
#1209 [14:59] <acerspyro> 4. contact someone else here.
#1210 [14:59] <Lord_Ralex> travis, if you just got it, the sounds may have not finished downloading
#1211 [14:59] <Lord_Ralex> they are downloading while you play
#1212 [14:59] <acerspyro> Rlly, lord?
#1213 [14:59] <Lord_Ralex> so it can take a bit longer to hear some sounds
#1214 [14:59] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, yep
#1215 [14:59] <acerspyro> I never realised it
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#1217 [14:59] <acerspyro> :P
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#1219 [14:59] <acerspyro> Lord
#1220 [15:00] <travis> iv had mindcraft for a while but they dont work
#1221 [15:00] <Lord_Ralex> delete resources and use something like task manager
#1222 [15:00] <acerspyro> When I had windows, I was doing texturepacks
#1223 [15:00] <Marc_IRL> ...sounds are downloading?
#1224 [15:00] <acerspyro> My sound system kept crashingwith a loud "SCCCCCRRRRITCH!!!" sound
#1225 [15:00] <acerspyro> What's that?
#1226 [15:00] <Deleters> Does it really download as you play?
#1227 [15:00] <Lord_Ralex> afaik
#1228 [15:00] <Deleters> Hey Marc
#1229 [15:00] <acerspyro> We said yes
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#1232 [15:01] <march3258> i cant play minecraft its not leting me
#1233 [15:01] <acerspyro> Explain?
#1234 [15:01] <acerspyro> Login failed?
#1235 [15:01] <march3258> no
#1236 [15:01] <Deleters> march3258: Could you explain how it iasn't working?
#1237 [15:01] <acerspyro> Crash at start?
#1238 [15:02] <Deleters> acerspyro: Let him try to describe it.
#1239 [15:02] <acerspyro> Okies
#1240 [15:02] <Deleters> It would be far easier to let the person with the problem tell us that for us to go through the list. :P
#1241 [15:02] <march3258> i get to the main title screen ok but when i start a world the screen goes black
#1242 [15:02] <acerspyro> Is it modded?
#1243 [15:02] <march3258> no
#1244 [15:03] <acerspyro> What graphic card u got?
#1245 [15:03] <march3258> i dont know exacly but my commputer is several years old
#1246 [15:03] <Deleters> ??> march3258 win/dxdiag
#1247 [15:03] <VoxelHead> march3258: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1248 [15:03] <VoxelHead> march3258: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1249 [15:03] <acerspyro> If it's onboard graphics, forget it
#1250 [15:04] <acerspyro> Lord_Ralex
#1251 [15:04] <Lord_Ralex> ?
#1252 [15:05] <acerspyro> The other day, I realised you could show the hitboxes with F3+B
#1253 [15:05] <Lord_Ralex> yes
#1254 [15:05] <Deleters> Lolwut? That's cool.
#1255 [15:05] <Lord_Ralex> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Debug_screen#More_Debug-Keys
#1256 [15:05] <acerspyro> Are there any other shorcuts I don't know? I know F3+a is Actualise, I know B, Shift.
#1257 [15:05] <march3258> one sec
#1258 [15:06] <Deleters> Thanks, Lord Ralex
#1259 [15:06] <Lord_Ralex> i do want to try f3+c though now
#1260 [15:06] <acerspyro> It's really useful in PVP, Deleters
#1261 [15:06] <Deleters> Me too.
#1262 [15:06] <acerspyro> F3+C? What gives?
#1263 [15:06] <Deleters> Crashes your client if you hold donw
#1264 [15:07] <acerspyro> Srsly? Lol what is it supposed to do?
#1265 [15:07] <acerspyro> I mean its real function
#1266 [15:07] <acerspyro> not accidental
#1267 [15:07] <Deleters> Crashes your client...http://imgur.com/uUIEsTc
#1268 [15:08] <Lord_Ralex> seems like you have to stand still too
#1269 [15:08] <Deleters> Nope.
#1270 [15:08] <Deleters> I moved while holding
#1271 [15:08] <Lord_Ralex> i was looking around and it took more than 10 seconds
#1272 [15:08] <Deleters> Yeah, but that's minecraft fer ya. XD
#1273 [15:08] <march3258> http://pastebin.com/HZrMYBG7
#1274 [15:08] <Lord_Ralex> although f3+p actually is useful
#1275 [15:08] <march3258> that was the link
#1276 [15:09] <acerspyro> Lol it's a debug key
#1277 [15:09] <march3258> i think
#1278 [15:09] <Lord_Ralex> march3258, yes it is
#1279 [15:09] <Deleters> What's p, Ralex?
#1280 [15:09] <acerspyro> Try F3 + Shift and browse through 1-10
#1281 [15:09] <acerspyro> 1-9*
#1282 [15:09] <Lord_Ralex> Deleters, does not pause game when you tab out
#1283 [15:09] <Lord_Ralex> or when it loses focus
#1284 [15:09] <Deleters> Oh
#1285 [15:09] <Deleters> Although if it rains, you'll hate it. XD
#1286 [15:09] <acerspyro> The game doesn't pauses neithern when your screen is waroing in the nether portal
#1287 [15:09] <Lord_Ralex> f3+t is for texture pack artists
#1288 [15:10] <acerspyro> What gives?
#1289 [15:10] <Lord_Ralex> Deleters, you helping march?
#1290 [15:10] <acerspyro> Texture update?
#1291 [15:10] <Deleters> Yeah.
#1292 [15:10] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, if you change the rtexture files
#1293 [15:10] <acerspyro> OOH I NEED IT
#1294 [15:10] <Lord_Ralex> you can refresh w/o restarting client
#1295 [15:11] <acerspyro> I'm a texturepacker
#1296 [15:11] <Lord_Ralex> or well, the longer way
#1297 [15:11] <Deleters> march3258: Looks like that card is not really good for anything nowadays.
#1298 [15:11] <acerspyro> Do you want to see my texturepack? It's very beta, tho
#1299 [15:11] <march3258> oh
#1300 [15:11] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, is it on mcf?
#1301 [15:11] <acerspyro> nope
#1302 [15:11] <march3258> could that be the problume
#1303 [15:11] <acerspyro> Too beta
#1304 [15:11] <Deleters> march3258: One moment.
#1305 [15:11] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, :P
#1306 [15:12] <acerspyro> 2 mobs are done, terrain.png not finished
#1307 [15:12] <Lord_Ralex> otherwise i would be lazy and find it myself <_<
#1308 [15:12] <Lord_Ralex> although how that is lazy, no idea
#1309 [15:12] <acerspyro> I can give u mediafire link
#1310 [15:12] <Lord_Ralex> na
#1311 [15:14] <acerspyro> Too late >:D http://www.mediafire.com/?yz7yndayps9w4op
#1312 [15:14] <Deleters> march3258: yOU STILL HERE?
#1313 [15:14] <Deleters> Oh, the caps!
#1314 [15:14] * Lord_Ralex presses caps lock on Deleters's keyboard
#1314 [15:14] <march3258> kya
#1315 [15:15] * acerspyro pops off the caps lock button
#1315 [15:15] <Deleters> Lord_Ralex: You can get a refund if your video card doesn't support minecraft, right?
#1316 [15:15] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Deleters refund
#1317 [15:15] <VoxelHead> Deleters: (refund) This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#1318 [15:16] <Lord_Ralex> he can try to see if it runs though
#1319 [15:16] <march3258> thanks
#1320 [15:16] <Deleters> Yeah, but I've read: "Within 15 days, and you couldn't get it fixed with technical help"
#1321 [15:16] <acerspyro> Can anyone guess what block is present naturally throughout all worlds?
#1322 [15:16] <Deleters> Air
#1323 [15:16] <acerspyro> |:[
#1324 [15:16] <Lord_Ralex> Deleters, and he cannot get it fixed with help
#1325 [15:16] <acerspyro> Yes
#1326 [15:16] <Lord_Ralex> but meh, up to mojang
#1327 [15:17] <Marc_IRL> It's basically asking people to actually try to get it to work first
#1328 [15:17] <Marc_IRL> Not just like, NOPE, REFUND
#1329 [15:17] <Lord_Ralex> that's how i see it
#1330 [15:17] <Marc_IRL> Because when people don't check system requirements, buy a game, and ask for a refund, it's a serious time drain
#1331 [15:17] <march3258> man i wish my computer was not a peace of junck
#1332 [15:17] <Marc_IRL> It used to be that we didn't refund them at all for that, but it proved to be a bit too restrictive.
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#1342 [15:30] <Marc_IRL> Today is a rage-filled day
#1343 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> More than usual?
#1344 [15:31] <Marc_IRL> I'm getting tired of emails from kids who think they've found a loophole, because they tricked the system into giving them an order number, that was not attached to a real purchase
#1345 [15:31] <ShaRose> Talking about it helps. Particularly because some of us know what you are talking about.
#1346 [15:31] <Marc_IRL> So they email us with an order number, demanding an account for their "purchase", and it has NEVER ONCE WORKED.
#1347 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1348 [15:31] <Marc_IRL> I have like A THOUSAND of these emails
#1349 [15:31] <ShaRose> like... are they all from different people?
#1350 [15:32] <Marc_IRL> Actually, like 1600
#1351 [15:32] <ShaRose> stick it up on the help site "Trying to scam us with fake order numbers doesn't work"
#1352 [15:32] <Marc_IRL> And yes, all from different people. These jerks on YouTube post videos on how to get Minecraft for free, and then everyone spams us with emails.
#1353 [15:32] <Marc_IRL> I'd have to write it in Spanish. And, it wouldn't work.
#1354 [15:33] <ShaRose> oh, I know
#1355 [15:33] <ShaRose> set it up so the auto reply thing can filter for those
#1356 [15:33] <ShaRose> make sure the order number they give is actually legit
#1357 [15:33] <Marc_IRL> Eventually, the web devs will make it so that you can't trick the system into giving you an order number, and they'll stop emailing us.
#1358 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> In the dozen different languages that Mojang probably gets emails in?
#1359 [15:33] <ShaRose> and if it's not, respond "sorry the order number you gave us isn't in the system etc"
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#1361 [15:33] <Marc_IRL> The order numbers -are- legit, they're just not attached to a transaction
#1362 [15:34] <Marc_IRL> We get emails mostly in English, with a smattering in French, German and Spanish
#1363 [15:34] <ShaRose> yeah, make sure there's a transaction attached
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#1365 [15:34] <Marc_IRL> No, because I use order numbers to verify purchases too
#1366 [15:34] <Klosjaarrr`Eten> @ Marc_IRL, easy way to trick people and easy to find out :D
#1367 [15:34] <Guest40634> My PIN number for my Minecraft download is not working
#1368 [15:35] <Marc_IRL> Guest40634: What is the error you're getting?
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#1371 [15:36] <Guest40634> I contacted mojang and they said it was active but when i type in it doesnt work. Am I typing it in wrong
#1372 [15:36] <Marc_IRL> Yes
#1373 [15:36] <Marc_IRL> If someone at Mojang customer support said it was active, it's somehow being typed incorrectly
#1374 [15:37] <Guest40634> How do I type it correctly are there spaces in between and if so how many
#1375 [15:37] <Marc_IRL> It should work both with and without spaces
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#1377 [15:37] <Lutzee> evening o/
#1378 [15:38] <Marc_IRL> Do you have the case# from your email?
#1379 [15:38] <Guest40634> A case number? I am not for sure what that is or where
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#1381 [15:40] <acerspyro> Lord_Ralex
#1382 [15:40] <Lord_Ralex> ?
#1383 [15:40] <Guest40634> I found it do you need to know
#1384 [15:40] <Marc_IRL> In the email that Mojang replied to, is there a case number listed anywhere?
#1385 [15:40] <Marc_IRL> Yes, I need to know.
#1386 [15:40] <acerspyro> I am trying to install sun java
#1387 [15:41] <acerspyro> But when I try to install the RPM, it says that everything is missing, even the / dir
#1388 [15:41] <Guest40634> 142565
#1389 [15:42] <acerspyro> Hello?
#1390 [15:42] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, what does the error look like? and are you installing as the root user or sudo or none of those?
#1391 [15:42] <acerspyro> Root user, as always
#1392 [15:42] <Marc_IRL> Guest40634: Log into account.mojang.com/redeem and try one more time to redeem it, without the spaces. The card is still okay to redeem.
#1393 [15:42] <Guest40634> ok i will try
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#1395 [15:43] <ShaRose> pulling teeth is Hip and Fun
#1396 [15:44] <Guest40634> it did not work and I am typing it in right
#1397 [15:44] <creeperfreak86> Hello, my two boys LOVE Minecraft and would like to play with each other on two separate computers. Does anyone know how I can set this up for them?
#1398 [15:44] <Lord_Ralex> creeperfreak86, you can either rnu a server or use the open to lan feature
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#1400 [15:45] <Lord_Ralex> creeperfreak86, creating a server is probably the better way, are they are on the same network?
#1401 [15:45] <acerspyro> It doesn't sends output to a file...
#1402 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> creeperfreak86 - You would need to start by purchasing two seperate minecraft accounts, with two seperate email addresses for each of your boys.
#1403 [15:45] <Marc_IRL> There's this handy article on it at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/429052-how-do-i-play-on-a-multiplayer-server-
#1404 [15:45] <creeperfreak86> if I use open to lan does this mean it will only be the two of them in their world?
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#1407 [15:45] <creeperfreak86> Oh, I would need two memberships?
#1408 [15:45] <Lord_Ralex> yes
#1409 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1410 [15:45] <Marc_IRL> Yes, LAN stands for Local Area Network, so it would only be people on your network
#1411 [15:46] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, i never said there was a file
#1412 [15:46] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, i just said what is the error
#1413 [15:46] <Guest40634> Marc_IRL, it did not work
#1414 [15:46] <creeperfreak86> With the lan method do I need two accounts as well?
#1415 [15:46] <acerspyro> I know, but I can't copy and paste from the console
#1416 [15:46] <Lord_Ralex> creeperfreak86, yes
#1417 [15:47] <Marc_IRL> Guest40634: Want me to redeem it on your profile? I would need to reset some of the info to do so, like your password, but it would only take a minute or so.
#1418 [15:47] <creeperfreak86> yes it is the same network
#1419 [15:47] <Guest40634> I would
#1420 [15:48] <Guest40634> do you need anything from me
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#1422 [15:48] <Marc_IRL> nope, one sec
#1423 [15:48] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, you should be able to get the text in some fashion, however i don't know what the exact way is on freebsd
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#1425 [15:49] <Marc_IRL> Guest40634: I entered the code exactly as it appeared, and it worked on the first try
#1426 [15:49] <acerspyro> I need gterm or kterm, none of em working
#1427 [15:50] <creeperfreak86> If i join a server do they need two seperate accounts as well?
#1428 [15:50] <Marc_IRL> You'll need to do a password reset at account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request, and set your security questions again, but the card is now redeemed on your profile.
#1429 [15:51] <Guest40634> I have no idea what I did wrong then sorry and thank you for your help
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#1431 [15:52] <Marc_IRL> You're welcome :-)
#1432 [15:52] <acerspyro> Anyways, it says "error: failed dependencies"
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#1434 [15:52] <acerspyro> With a ton of missing files
#1435 [15:53] <acerspyro> Do you need the command
#1436 [15:53] <acerspyro> rpm -i --ignoreos --dbpath /var/lib/rpm --root /usr/compat/linux /root/Desktop/Downloads/jre-7u17-linux-i586.rpm
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#1438 [15:55] <acerspyro> lord_ralex?
#1439 [15:56] <Guest40634> Marc_IRL, sorry to bother you again, but can you tell me after I do that where do I go to get the Minecraft username
#1440 [15:56] <Guest40634> Marc_IRL, sorry to bother you again, but can you tell me after I do that where do I go to get the Minecraft username
#1441 [15:57] <acerspyro> Don't spam please
#1442 [15:57] <Marc_IRL> Log into account.mojang.com/me and check out the giant green box telling you to pick a username
#1443 [15:57] <Guest40634> sorry didnt mean to
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#1447 [15:58] <brookus07> my little girl made her an account and dont remember her email or anything how can i get that back
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#1450 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> brookus07 - Did you pay for her account?
#1451 [15:59] <brookus07> yea
#1452 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> brookus07 - Do you still have the email with the receipt that has the transaction ID?
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#1454 [16:00] <Guest40634> it doesnt show that it just says loading your gift codes under the redeem code
#1455 [16:00] <brookus07> she used the email that she registered i think
#1456 [16:00] <ryan77777> I have a question about the minecraft servers
#1457 [16:00] <brookus07> are they a help hotline i can call or anything
#1458 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> brookus07 - If you have the transaction ID, Mojang can look up the account that it's purchased under for you.
#1459 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> brookus07 - There is no toll-free support number for Mojang, unfortunately.
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#1461 [16:01] <ryan77777> I was wondering if my friends could join my minecraft world even if I am not on my xbox. Is there a way to do this? Thanks
#1462 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> ryan77777 - No.
#1463 [16:01] <brookus07> do you think it woudl be on my bank statement
#1464 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> brookus07 - Most likely, yes.
#1465 [16:02] <Marc_IRL> You're killing me here, Jake
#1466 [16:02] <Marc_IRL> Guest40634: Are you sure you're logged into the right account/email address? There is an unredeemed copy of Minecraft on your account, I'm looking right at it.
#1467 [16:02] <anguiaa1997> my minecraft crashed can anyone help me
#1468 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> anguiaa1997 - Please provide us with the crash report via www.pastebin.com. Give us the URL to the page after you've submitted your error log there.
#1469 [16:03] <ryan77777> Do you know if minecraft xbox version is going to make a update where people can join my server when im not on my xbox
#1470 [16:03] <Marc_IRL> GreyVulpine: The transaction ID is never on a bank statement
#1471 [16:03] <brookus07> yea its not on there
#1472 [16:04] <Marc_IRL> brookus07: For information on how to locate your transaction ID, or recover it if you no longer have it, please see http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380.
#1473 [16:04] <brookus07> okay thank you
#1474 [16:04] <ryan77777> Do you know if minecraft xbox version is going to make a update where people can join my server when im not on my xbox
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#1476 [16:05] <Marc_IRL> ryan77777: How would they play on your Xbox if your Xbox is not on?
#1477 [16:05] <Deleters> Marc_IRL: Xbox's verson of Away from Keyboard
#1478 [16:06] <Marc_IRL> I suspect that the way players connect in multiplayer on that version of Minecraft will not change
#1479 [16:06] <ryan77777> well since the server is an online server then i would just assume that people could join my server even if im not on it. I dont know much bout technology sorry.
#1480 [16:06] <Deleters> I've never played the XBox version, sorry.
#1481 [16:07] <Marc_IRL> I was under the impression that someone still had to host the server. A lot of things are done client side, even like matchmaking in shooter games. One of the clients host, but it's never shown to everyone else.
#1482 [16:07] <Guest40634> Marc_IRL, yes I am on the same email I just checked to make sure
#1483 [16:07] <Marc_IRL> Basically puts the load on millions of Xboxes, instead of Microsoft's servers
#1484 [16:07] <ryan77777> hey marc what did you mean by xboxs verson of away from keyboard
#1485 [16:07] <acerspyro> I never liked Xbox version
#1486 [16:07] <Deleters> ryan77777: I said that.
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#1488 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> ryan77777 - Did you mean you wanted to host a server, by having your xbox running, but yourself not physically at the controls?
#1489 [16:08] <Deleters> Could someone fill me in: How does one start an XBox MC Server?
#1490 [16:08] <ryan77777> oh hahah sorry. im such a noob. will that help me with my problem or am i just boned
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#1492 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> ryan77777 - or did you mean you wanted to have your server running on xbox, but with your xbox turned off?
#1493 [16:09] <ryan77777> I wanted to have my server running on xbox, but with my xbox turned off
#1494 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's not possible.
#1495 [16:10] <acerspyro> Which is one of the reasons I dislike Xbox version
#1496 [16:10] <Guest40634> Marc_IRL, yes I am on the same email
#1497 [16:10] <anguiaa1997> @greyVulpine - http://pastebin.com/g24kma02
#1498 [16:10] <Deleters> The XBox is behind a few versions, and I heard it wasn't going to update anymore.
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#1500 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> anguiaa1997 - "Unknown character ' ' in 'C:/Users/lena/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/config/forge.cfg:1"
#1501 [16:10] <Marc_IRL> Deleters: Where did you hear that?
#1502 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> There's an unknown character in your forge.cfg that forge can't parse
#1503 [16:11] <Marc_IRL> Guest40634: When I look at your profile, I see this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4510067/unredeemed.png
#1504 [16:11] <ryan77777> ah man. well thanks guys. and one more things. is there a way i could write to minecraft xbox version to ask for a update for my problem?
#1505 [16:11] <anguiaa1997> what does that mean
#1506 [16:11] <acerspyro> Ryan77777
#1507 [16:11] <acerspyro> One thing: buy PC version
#1508 [16:11] <Marc_IRL> ryan77777: you could try tweeting at them https://twitter.com/4JStudios
#1509 [16:11] <Deleters> Marc_IRL: Not quite sure. That's why I said heard, so then people won't go around saying "It WILL stop developement."
#1510 [16:11] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, how is that a solution
#1511 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> anguiaa1997 - You're running a modded version of minecraft, that adds additional functionality through third-party code. One of those aspects involves a configuration file that isn't set up correctly.
#1512 [16:12] <acerspyro> It's the same as Xbox
#1513 [16:12] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, no it is not
#1514 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> anguiaa1997 - There is some sort of character in that configuration file, which is making your modded minecraft puke
#1515 [16:12] <anguiaa1997> so what do i do
#1516 [16:12] <acerspyro> I heard there was a mod to connect an Xbox remote to your comp and play
#1517 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> anguiaa1997 - Do you want to keep those mods?
#1518 [16:12] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, xbox version is different and will unlikely be the same as the pc in the future, like how the pc and pe are
#1519 [16:12] <anguiaa1997> only the AVP one
#1520 [16:12] <Marc_IRL> I am kicking the next person who gives bad info. Jesus.
#1521 [16:12] <ryan77777> ok well thanks guys. you helped me out a lot. love what yall are doing here. seeya
#1522 [16:13] <acerspyro> Yeah, right...
#1523 [16:13] <Guest40634> Marc_IRL: for me it does not show that for some reason
#1524 [16:13] <acerspyro> Oh and lord
#1525 [16:13] <love> hello i have bought the mine craft card and have created a mojang account and also have tried to download the mineraft for PC but when i try to login to play it says it is not downloaded? what is my problem?? really frustrated.....
#1526 [16:13] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, suggesting getting pc version is like telling a mac user to get a windows when his mac did not do something
#1527 [16:13] <acerspyro> You haven't answered me later
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#1529 [16:13] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, because i am a bit busy atm
#1530 [16:13] <acerspyro> Ah ok sorry
#1531 [16:14] <Marc_IRL> I don't know what to tell you. Use another web browser or something? I am in your account, looking at the place where it says you can redeem your copy for a username.
#1532 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> anguiaa1997 - Then I can't really help you there. I can suggest doing a force update through your launcher's options menu to clear out your mods, and get fresh, unmodified files. That would wipe out all of your mods and start minecraft fresh (but keeping your saves)
#1533 [16:14] <Marc_IRL> The only thing that makes sense is you're on a browser that's blocking some element of the webpage, or signed into the wrong Mojang account.
#1534 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> anguiaa1997 - Otherwise, I have no experience with the AVP mod to really help fix that problem. You may want to ask in the forum where you got the mods from
#1535 [16:16] <Guest40634> ok well ill mess around with this until i figure it out thanks
#1536 [16:16] <love> hello???
#1537 [16:17] <Marc_IRL> love: HI
#1538 [16:17] <love> hiwas u tellingme to use another web borwser?
#1539 [16:17] <Marc_IRL> no
#1540 [16:17] <anguiaa1997> Thank you i fixed it with you help
#1541 [16:18] <Marc_IRL> love: If you get the error "not downloaded", you need to make sure you are using the correct login information. The files will automatically download once you log into the online services.
#1542 [16:18] <anguiaa1997> @greyVulpine :)
#1543 [16:19] <love> asfar as i can tell i have done everything correctly, do i use my mojang login info to login to minecraft
#1544 [16:19] <cestislife> Yes.
#1545 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> love - Which one of these do you actually see? http://i.imgur.com/V1pYh.png
#1546 [16:20] <love> http://i.imgur.com/V1pYh.png
#1547 [16:20] <Marc_IRL> No, pick one :p
#1548 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Er, yes. Do you see the top one? The middle? Or the bottom?
#1549 [16:21] <love> oo sorry uhmm i think it is the first or second..
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#1552 [16:21] <froger599> i need help
#1553 [16:22] <Marc_IRL> Please pick the one that you are seeing
#1554 [16:22] <cestislife> ?? ask
#1555 [16:22] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1556 [16:22] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1558 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Could you launch minecraft, try to log in again, and tell us which one of those you see?
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#1560 [16:22] <froger599> My server got hacked from Grantsimmons and Jbandt
#1561 [16:22] <froger599> and destroyed my server and change the pass of beastnode
#1562 [16:22] <cestislife> That's out of our league, I'm afraid.
#1563 [16:22] <froger599> what can i do
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#1565 [16:23] <cestislife> Contact the host of the server?
#1566 [16:23] <froger599> i am the hose
#1567 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> You can start by contacting your server host, beastnode, to begin your account recovery. As for the hacking, beastnode may be able to provide help with that.
#1568 [16:23] <froger599> host*
#1569 [16:23] <froger599> and they hacked it
#1570 [16:23] <cestislife> We cannot do anything about that.
#1571 [16:23] <froger599> you cant ban Grantsimmons or Jbandt for hacking peoples account?
#1572 [16:24] <cestislife> We do not have the juristictions.
#1573 [16:24] <cestislife> Or the power.
#1574 [16:24] <froger599> but that stinks they get to hack us and we get nothing
#1575 [16:24] <Marc_IRL> froger599: What if they came in here and said you hacked their account? We couldn't just automatically ban you. Also, it's not possible to "ban" an account.
#1576 [16:24] <love> ok hang on
#1577 [16:24] <AG_Clinton> Contact your server provider they will be able to help.
#1578 [16:24] <love> its the log in failed
#1579 [16:25] <froger599> ok i will try
#1580 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> love - Has minecraft ever worked before?
#1581 [16:25] <love> no i am setting it up for my son
#1582 [16:25] <love> have been trying fora while
#1583 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> love - Did you purchase an account for your son?
#1584 [16:26] <love> i purchased a mincraft caard from gamestop for Pc and acivated it
#1585 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> love - When you log into your son's Mojang.com account, do you see Minecraft listed under the "My Games" heading, as seen here? http://i.imgur.com/afqZugV.png
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#1589 [16:26] <love> hang on let me check
#1590 [16:27] <acerspyro> 4th attempt to install java, let's hope it will work...
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#1592 [16:29] <love> when i login and click on games it lists mine craft then if i click on it it wants me to log in
#1593 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> When you log in, do you immediately see Minecraft listed under "My Games", like it does in the picture?
#1594 [16:30] <acerspyro> love, question like that; did you input the username or the e-mail address?
#1595 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> acerspyro - Not having a Minecraft profile would also bring up a "login failed" error message.
#1596 [16:30] <acerspyro> For what?
#1597 [16:30] <love> no i have to go to the upper right hand corner to the game tab in the list of options
#1598 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> For love's problem
#1599 [16:31] <jonner> using internet explorer on xbox i sign in and the game will not start
#1600 [16:31] <love> so is my card a waste of 27 dollars
#1601 [16:31] <acerspyro> ah
#1602 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> love - Then minecraft wasn't redeemed on that account. From what account were you logged in as when you redeemed the card?
#1603 [16:31] <love> i only have the one mojang account
#1604 [16:32] * GreyVulpine prods Marc_IRL.
#1604 [16:32] <rymate1234> jonner, cant play the pc version on xbox. the xbox version is a seperte purchase
#1605 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> love - Could you try the Redeem Gift code button near the bottom of that page?
#1606 [16:33] <love> it is invalid now because it has already been used
#1607 [16:34] <Marc_IRL> love: Type /msg Marc_IRL and then your PIN, and I'll look it up
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#1609 [16:36] <Marc_IRL> Oh, a fun one. It's doing something I haven't seen.
#1610 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#1611 [16:36] <love> i know it does something differnt everytime i log on
#1612 [16:37] <Marc_IRL> Card doesn't come up with any status from InComm. Could be that they're having a service interruption, I dunno. Looking into it though. Love, click the tab at the top of your screen with my name to follow up with me privately, I needed another piece of info.
#1613 [16:39] <jonner> ryan you can use ie on xbox iwant to play in the browser
#1614 [16:39] <acerspyro> I have a question: What are the best specs ever to play minecraft (I mean an exact spec where minecraft would stop lagging under all circonstances, with all options on)
#1615 [16:42] <Marc_IRL> GreyVulpine: Must have been a blip, card status is showing now, it's unredeemed. No login because no game. Giving her instructions on how to redeem.
#1616 [16:42] <Marc_IRL> GreyVulpine: Probably also going to fix up the "not downloaded" article with those screenshots
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#1618 [16:42] <Klosjaarrr> acerspyro: It really depends on what you want... Like having a texturepack or not, installing mods
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#1621 [16:43] <Klosjaarrr> I would say using a dual core and 4gb ram will be fine to play without lag and without anything, not sure about everything below
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#1623 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - Feel free. I get that question quite frequently here, hence why I have that image bookmarked.
#1624 [16:44] <Marc_IRL> Should be able to create an article you can just link to instead
#1625 [16:44] <acerspyro> default texturepack, no mods?
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#1627 [16:44] <dkan8803> I have minecraft on two computers in my house....one computer for each of my sons...i switched those computers today...how do i get the account information for darrell@pursuehappy.com onto the new computer? I keep logging in with the correct information and it comes up as my other son's account.
#1628 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> dkan8803 - How do you know it's your other son's account?
#1629 [16:45] <dkan8803> because it comes up with his name and his servers
#1630 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> dkan8803 - Right, okay. Because that information is stored locally on the computer, under your operating system profile. It's not pulled from Mojang's servers
#1631 [16:46] <dkan8803> can i uninstall and reinstall minecraft to make it work?
#1632 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> If you would like to seperate your Minecraft account information (saves, server info, etc), you'll need to create multiple user accounts on that computer.
#1633 [16:47] <dkan8803> how do you do that?
#1634 [16:47] <Klosjaarrr> ?? specs
#1635 [16:47] <VoxelHead> specs: Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#1636 [16:47] <Klosjaarrr> >.>
#1637 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> If you're running windows, check the control panel for the user account panel. You can add users through there
#1638 [16:48] <dkan8803> hp rouchsmart...64-bit...windows 8...latest version of java
#1639 [16:50] <dkan8803> can i simply copy the files and move them over?
#1640 [16:50] <dkan8803> hlelp
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#1643 [16:54] <Marc_IRL> Another satisfied customer
#1644 [16:54] <Marc_IRL> It's hard, not being able to see what they're doing. Once we got through all that, she said her password was working on Mojang.com, and not in the launcher. I have no idea how that is possible.
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#1646 [16:55] <ShaRose> it's not, she was wrong
#1647 [16:55] <ShaRose> well
#1648 [16:55] <ShaRose> unless the login server was down
#1649 [16:55] <ShaRose> might be dns issues
#1650 [16:55] <acerspyro> Will minecraft work with JRE version 6 update 3?
#1651 [16:55] <ShaRose> but highly unlikely
#1652 [16:55] <ShaRose> probably
#1653 [16:55] <acerspyro> It's the only one I've found to work with FreeBSD
#1654 [16:56] <Lord_Ralex> it should
#1655 [16:57] <acerspyro> kk ty
#1656 [16:57] <acerspyro> It's my 5th attempt to install java
#1657 [16:57] <acerspyro> :P
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#1659 [16:59] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, when I try it, I've never had a password not work cross-system, and I've never not had a prepaid card that showed ok to redeem not redeem.
#1660 [16:59] <acerspyro> Oh, and what's that 0x0c thing?
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#1662 [17:00] <beflipper> I brought stand alone game but never got it have been useing app only where do you down load stand alone
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#1664 [17:00] <acerspyro> Please chat normally
#1665 [17:00] <TannerGello> minecraft not completing load on start up page for several days. Goes about 90% and says finished loading
#1666 [17:01] <cestislife> ??> TannerGello forceupdate
#1667 [17:01] <VoxelHead> TannerGello: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1668 [17:01] <VoxelHead> TannerGello: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1669 [17:02] <acerspyro> I THINK THE 5TH ATTEMPT IS THE GOOD!
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#1671 [17:02] <acerspyro> Sorry I'm excited since I've been trying all day
#1672 [17:03] <TannerGello> there is no options...
#1673 [17:03] <cestislife> Get the launcher.
#1674 [17:03] <cestislife> http://minecraft.net/download
#1675 [17:03] <acerspyro> Yess, I think I have java!!!
#1676 [17:06] <acerspyro> Do I need to reboot my computer under UNIX for linux java to take effect?
#1677 [17:07] <TannerGello> updating now... will he have to play on the launcher now?
#1678 [17:07] <acerspyro> brb
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#1682 [17:15] <acerspyro> I'm back
#1683 [17:16] <cestislife> TannerGello: Yes.
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#1687 [17:20] <btilm305> Can someone give me details about how the client generates the server hash before it verifies it with the minecraft servers
#1688 [17:21] <btilm305> I've looked at http://www.wiki.vg/Protocol_Encryption, but something doesn't look right
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#1691 [17:23] <Deleters> I don't think the Client sends the Server Hash
#1692 [17:24] <Deleters> Generates*
#1693 [17:26] <btilm305> It does
#1694 [17:26] <btilm305> "After generating the shared secret, the client generates the following hash:"
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#1696 [17:29] <Deleters> Where do you see this?
#1697 [17:29] <Deleters> Nevermind, found.
#1698 [17:29] <Troy11> trying to buy a minecraft account for the past 5 days but the card numb er wont go threw... it works everywhere but on minecraft.net how do i make my card number work?
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#1700 [17:30] <Deleters> Troy: What would you mean?
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#1702 [17:30] <Joe> i cannot seem to download the game
#1703 [17:31] <Deleters> btilm305: It connects to session.minecraft.net.
#1704 [17:31] <Deleters> Joe: Elaborate, please?
#1705 [17:31] <btilm305> Deleters that's the sessionId
#1706 [17:31] <btilm305> not the server has
#1707 [17:31] <btilm305> hash
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#1709 [17:31] <Joe> I download the executable when when I execute it brings me to browser news
#1710 [17:32] <Joe> mindcraft news
#1711 [17:32] <Deleters> btilm305: It still connets to session.minecraft.net.
#1712 [17:32] <btilm305> ok?
#1713 [17:32] <Joe> not sure
#1714 [17:32] <btilm305> I never said it didn't?
#1715 [17:32] <Deleters> Joe: Yes, then you log in with your premium account.
#1716 [17:34] <Deleters> btilm305: What are you trying to do, anyways?
#1717 [17:34] <Joe> I logged in using the account set up for my daughter using my email and it logs me on....where do you play the game
#1718 [17:34] <btilm305> Create a client on a different platform that can log in to a server
#1719 [17:35] <Deleters> Makes sense. btilm305: And what do you think is not right?
#1720 [17:35] <btilm305> sha1 := Sha1() sha1.update(ASCII encoding of the server id string from 0xFD) sha1.update(shared secret) sha1.update(server's encoded public key from 0xFD) hash := sha1.hexdigest() # String of hex characters
#1721 [17:36] <btilm305> Is that accurate?
#1722 [17:36] <btilm305> On how to calculate the hash
#1723 [17:36] <Deleters> Joe: After you have logged in, you create a world by clicking "Single Player", or finding a server to play on.
#1724 [17:36] <Deleters> btilm305: I actually do not know. This stuff has never been seen by me before.
#1725 [17:37] <Joe> that is not and option on the menu I have home/game/Community/store/profile and help
#1726 [17:37] <Joe> 'I don't see where you create a world
#1727 [17:37] <Deleters> Oh, you didn't run the downloadable launcher?
#1728 [17:37] <Joe> I tried it would not run....
#1729 [17:38] <Joe> when I say run it pulls me to mindcraft news
#1730 [17:38] <acerspyro> Normal
#1731 [17:38] <acerspyro> On the bottom, add your username and password
#1732 [17:38] <Joe> I did
#1733 [17:38] <acerspyro> dod you click login?
#1734 [17:38] <acerspyro> did*
#1735 [17:39] <Joe> one sec
#1736 [17:39] <acerspyro> kk...
#1737 [17:40] <Joe> ok all set
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#1739 [17:44] <acerspyro> Hello, how may we help you?
#1740 [17:45] <Bill> My niece it trying to logon to the game but it won't let her
#1741 [17:45] <acerspyro> Explain?
#1742 [17:46] <acerspyro> Any messages?
#1743 [17:46] <Bill> I bought her the game for christmas and she is home in NH now and cannot log on
#1744 [17:47] <Bill> Yes the password it says was incorrect
#1745 [17:47] <Lutzee> What message is the launcher giving her? Also it would be useful to have her here herself
#1746 [17:47] <acerspyro> Failed to login?
#1747 [17:47] <Bill> It is asking security questions that I was never asked
#1748 [17:48] <acerspyro> like "What was the first school you attended" and such?
#1749 [17:48] * Momo is now known as Momo|away
#1750 [17:48] <Bill> Yes..like those
#1751 [17:48] <acerspyro> Well, just shoot random of all that could apply there.
#1752 [17:49] <acerspyro> Or type anything and try another question...
#1753 [17:50] <Bill> ?? What was the last name of my favorite artist..ya but what does she have to guess?
#1754 [17:50] <Deleters> Bill: Is it asking you to set up the security questions? Are you now making the account?
#1755 [17:50] <acerspyro> If she does not knows, type anything, even "hdgniushlad" and it will ask you another questio
#1756 [17:50] <acerspyro> n.
#1757 [17:51] <acerspyro> I dunno, but I don't recommend doing it more than 3 times
#1758 [17:51] <Deleters> acerspyro: Did he say if he was making the account?
#1759 [17:51] <Bill> I am in Boston and she is in New Hampshire...do you think its trying to set it up?
#1760 [17:51] <acerspyro> No, he said that her niece could not login.
#1761 [17:52] <acerspyro> It is asking security question they never inputted before
#1762 [17:52] <Deleters> Bill: Are these questions already pre-set?
#1763 [17:52] <acerspyro> Yes, you should have setted them upon your account's creation
#1764 [17:52] <Deleters> As in, they already have an "answer", instead of you making an answer?
#1765 [17:52] <Bill> I was never asked any security questions
#1766 [17:53] <acerspyro> Does she wants to play the game in the browser or in the launcher?
#1767 [17:53] <Deleters> Bill: Hold up for a moment.
#1768 [17:53] <Deleters> Bill: Does the questions look something like this: http://imgur.com/6s1u7aE ?
#1769 [17:54] <Bill> She has the giftcard with her and wants to download it
#1770 [17:54] <acerspyro> Tell her to go to minecraft.net/download
#1771 [17:54] <Deleters> Just what I thought.
#1772 [17:55] <acerspyro> and to download the minecraft.exe file
#1773 [17:55] <Deleters> acerspyro: Make sure that when someone says they bought their significant other minecraft, that if it is a Gift code.
#1774 [17:55] <acerspyro> It works the same, right?
#1775 [17:56] <Deleters> acerspyro: He's actaully trying to make a mojang account.
#1776 [17:56] <Bill> i am on the phone with her now
#1777 [17:56] <acerspyro> AAH!
#1778 [17:56] <Deleters> That is why you never tell them "Enter random whatever into whatever fields"
#1779 [17:56] <acerspyro> I thought it was while logging into minecraft.net
#1780 [17:57] <Deleters> Bill: In the security questions, choose whatever you will remember for a large chunk of your life, and answer with the correct answer.
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#1782 [17:57] <acerspyro> That's meaning what I said
#1783 [17:58] <Deleters> acerspyro: Make sure to ask someone who's been here longer if you're unsure. ;) Some of us won't mind.
#1784 [17:58] <acerspyro> I'm alright with that
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#1786 [17:59] <Deleters> And Marc is back! :)
#1787 [17:59] <Marc_IRL> What's the error that you get when login servers are down? Just "Login failed"?
#1788 [17:59] <acerspyro> Effectively
#1789 [17:59] <Brandon-Lee> Ok i have tried to buy minecraft twice now, and i have gotten the receipt saying "Before you can start playing your game you first need to choose a player name. We have sent a receipt e-mail to brandon_athey45@yahoo.com which includes instructions on how to do that. It should arrive shortly" i have not gotten that email. so idk what i should do.
#1790 [17:59] <acerspyro> Not about this
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#1792 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - Can't connect to minecraft.net
#1793 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - Login failed is when the login server replies back with a denied error
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#1795 [18:00] <Marc_IRL> Brandon-Lee: I don't see a purchase on that account. Wait 15 minutes, then verify if you've been charged, and try again if needed.
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#1797 [18:01] <Guest38928> can't login
#1798 [18:01] <Guest38928> says password or user name is wrong
#1799 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - To test yourself, try setting your hosts file to direct login.minecraft.net to a different IP. It'll give you "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#1800 [18:01] <Guest38928> i don't understand what you're saying
#1801 [18:02] <Guest38928> i have paid and sey up an account but it won't download
#1802 [18:02] * acerspyro is now known as acerspyro|AFK
#1803 [18:03] <Deleters> Guest38928: Make sure that your bank has transferred the money out.
#1804 [18:03] <Marc_IRL> Guest38928: If it says that your password or username is wrong, then you are logging in with the wrong username or password. If you just purchased, log in with your email address and Mojang account password.
#1805 [18:03] * acerspyro|AFK is now known as acerspyro
#1806 [18:03] <acerspyro> GreyVulpine
#1807 [18:03] <Deleters> Yes, what marc said too.
#1808 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes acerspyro?
#1809 [18:03] <acerspyro> In the launcher, what does error 2 represents?
#1810 [18:03] <Guest38928> i thought that was what I was doing
#1811 [18:03] <Guest38928> i'll try again
#1812 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> acerspyro - If it's Error 2: null, typically has to do with a java error in downloading files.
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#1814 [18:04] <acerspyro> That's what it is
#1815 [18:05] <acerspyro> But can this problem be fixed if I transfer the files from one computer to another?
#1816 [18:06] <Deleters> It will try to tell you that you're running a "pirated" copy, but if you used your account to download the files onto the one computer, I don't see what the big deal would have been.
#1817 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Could you try rm -rfing your ~/.minecraft folder, then trying the launcher again?
#1818 [18:06] <acerspyro> It's with my own account
#1819 [18:06] <acerspyro> No, the problem is within the UNIX virtual machine
#1820 [18:06] <Deleters> Grey: Deleting the .minecraft folder?
#1821 [18:07] <Lord_Ralex> 2 is when it is determining packages
#1822 [18:07] <acerspyro> Oh, and will I still be able to play online?
#1823 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Deleters - yes
#1824 [18:07] <Deleters> acerspyro: I believe it should.
#1825 [18:08] <acerspyro> Thanks alot.
#1826 [18:08] <Deleters> GreyVulpine: I learned that from Git. ;)
#1827 [18:08] <acerspyro> ty
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#1829 [18:09] * GreyVulpine nods
#1829 [18:09] <acerspyro> Did I send it twice?
#1830 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> POSIX commands are always good to know
#1831 [18:09] <Marc_IRL> Okay, article on the not downloaded error is up. Could probably use some proofreading, since you guys see more cases on this than I do http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/1003067-error-not-downloaded
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#1833 [18:11] <acerspyro> Not helping me
#1834 [18:11] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, can you run the java -version command again ?
#1835 [18:12] <acerspyro> yes
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#1838 [18:12] <luis> hello
#1839 [18:13] <acerspyro> OpenJDK Version 1.0.6
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#1841 [18:13] <Lord_Ralex> it is not using snujava
#1842 [18:13] <Lord_Ralex> sun*
#1843 [18:13] <acerspyro> Nope
#1844 [18:13] <acerspyro> It's UNIX
#1845 [18:13] <Lord_Ralex> i know
#1846 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> We see "Login Failed" errors because of one of these reasons. First off, the most common is that the user has simply forgotten their password and has entered in a wrong password. Or they're not putting in their email address as their username (if they have a mojang account). After that, we see it from people that have not either registered a minecraft profile, or bought minecraft under
#1847 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> their mojang account. The error also occurs when the user has not verified their email address. Lastly, an AV or other security suite can intercept and proxy the SSL handshake, resulting in a failed login
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#1849 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Wow, that was long.
#1850 [18:14] <acerspyro> it cutted your copy-paste
#1851 [18:14] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, based on what i have read, openjdk has a bug that causes your issue on freebsd
#1852 [18:14] <Lord_Ralex> which is why i had linked you that sunjava link
#1853 [18:14] <acerspyro> I know it does have a bug
#1854 [18:15] <acerspyro> I read it too
#1855 [18:15] <Lord_Ralex> but you are still using it
#1856 [18:15] <acerspyro> No choice
#1857 [18:15] <acerspyro> Sunjava link you sent me was for linux
#1858 [18:15] <acerspyro> Or solaris
#1859 [18:15] <acerspyro> I'm using BSD
#1860 [18:17] <Marc_IRL> Right, Mojang account with no Minecraft profile gives a login failed, not user not premium
#1861 [18:17] <Marc_IRL> will have to edit that
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#1863 [18:18] <acerspyro> Why is mollstam on this chat?
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#1866 [18:18] <Lutzee> acerspyro: Because he is? Well his bouncer is
#1867 [18:18] <acerspyro> bouncer?
#1868 [18:19] <Corin> He never seems to be here :<
#1869 [18:19] <Corin> IRC Bouncer
#1870 [18:19] <acerspyro> ah
#1871 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> !wiki bnc
#1872 [18:19] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_connector
#1873 [18:19] <GreyBot> The BNC connector (Bayonet Neill–Concelman) is a miniature quick connect/disconnect RF connector used for coaxial cable. It features two bayonet lugs on the female connector; mating is achieved with only a quarter turn of the coupling nut. BNCs are ideally suited for cable termination for miniature-to-subminiature coaxial cable (e.g., RG-58, 59, to RG-179, RG-316).
#1874 [18:19] <GreyBot> They are used with radio, television, and other radio-frequency electronic equipment, test instruments, video signals, and was once a popular connector for 10BASE2 computer networks. BNC connectors are made to match the characteristic impedance of cable at either 50 ohms or 75 ohms. It is usually applied for frequencies below 3 GHz and voltages below 500
#1875 [18:19] <Lutzee> acerspyro: A server that connects to an IRC network that a user then connects to
#1876 [18:19] <GreyBot> Volts. Similar connectors using the bayonet connection principle exist, and a threaded connector is also available. United States military standard MIL-PRF-39012 entitled Connectors, Coaxial, Radio Frequency, General Specification for (formerly MIL-C-39012) covers the general requirements and tests for radio frequency connectors used with flexible cables and
#1877 [18:19] <GreyBot> certain other types of coaxial transmission lines in military, aerospace, and spaceflight applications.
#1878 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> oh god.
#1879 [18:19] <Corin> !wiki IRC Bouncer
#1880 [18:19] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_%28software%29
#1881 [18:19] <GreyBot> A BNC (short for bouncer) is a piece of software that is used to relay traffic and connections in computer networks, much like a proxy. Using a BNC allows a user to hide the original source of the user's connection, providing privacy as well as the ability to route traffic through a specific location. A BNC can also be used to hide the true target to which a user connects.
#1882 [18:19] <Corin> ;)
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#1884 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> wrong wiki article.
#1885 [18:19] <Lord_Ralex> gj
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#1886 [18:19] <acerspyro> wadda?
#1887 [18:19] <Ben> my son bought mine craft and now i am trying to download it for him
#1888 [18:19] * Ben is now known as Guest22469
#1889 [18:19] <Lutzee> VoxelHead: you are drunk
#1890 [18:20] <acerspyro> lol
#1891 [18:20] <Guest22469> it keeps saying the user name and/or password are incorrect
#1892 [18:20] <Guest22469> on the minecraft launcher page
#1893 [18:20] <Lutzee> acerspyro: Basically its another server connecting to the network that makes it appear as if a user is still connected, which the user can then connect to
#1894 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Ben/Guest22469 - Are you trying to log in with your mojang login?
#1895 [18:20] <acerspyro> ah, thx lutzee
#1896 [18:20] <Guest22469> yes
#1897 [18:21] <Lutzee> Of note, i use one
#1898 [18:21] <Guest22469> and i know the info i am entering is right
#1899 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Ben/Guest22469 - Then either you're not using the right email address as your username, or your password is incorrect
#1900 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Ben/Guest22469 - Try requesting a password reset through: https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#1901 [18:22] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, http://www.freebsd.org/java/install.html
#1902 [18:22] <Guest22469> i just checked my mojang email address ion my account page and changed to the password, so i know it's correct any thoughts?
#1903 [18:22] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, refer to the last bit
#1904 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Guest22469 - Wait, are you already logged into Mojang.com ?
#1905 [18:23] <Guest22469> yes
#1906 [18:23] <Guest22469> i believe so
#1907 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Guest22469 - To download minecraft, you don't need to be logged in at all. You can simply download the launcher from http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1908 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> After downloading the launcher, you use your mojang email and password to log in
#1909 [18:24] <acerspyro> Srry wasn AFK
#1910 [18:24] <Guest22469> i thought that was what i was doing
#1911 [18:24] <acerspyro> was*
#1912 [18:24] <Guest22469> so are you saying that if i'm logged in mojang.com- trying to use the launcher won't work?
#1913 [18:25] <clarjon1> acerspyro: Any new errors, or the same one?
#1914 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> No, I'm saying, logging in is irrelevant to your problem. You want to download minecraft to your computer. You can do that by going to http://www.minecraft.net/download and downloading the launcher from that page.
#1915 [18:25] <acerspyro> No, I did that a few hours ago
#1916 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> We can solve that login problem later, should that actually be an issue.
#1917 [18:26] <Marc_IRL> Well, he does have to log into the launcher after it's downloaded
#1918 [18:26] <acerspyro> Who? I'm lost
#1919 [18:26] <clarjon1> acerspyro: they're talking to Guest22469
#1920 [18:26] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, http://www.freebsd.org/java/install.html
#1921 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Right, but if he's saying he's already logged into Mojang.com, things should be all good, provided he's bought minecraft successfully.
#1922 [18:26] <acerspyro> Ah lol
#1923 [18:26] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, you can install that java i was telling you earlier
#1924 [18:26] <acerspyro> I did
#1925 [18:26] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, it is not what is being used
#1926 [18:27] <acerspyro> But UNIX java is taking over...
#1927 [18:27] <Lord_Ralex> you are still using openjdk
#1928 [18:27] <acerspyro> I know, but the linux JRE is installed
#1929 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> The "Wrong username or password" error is from visiting and attempting to log into minecraft.net, which logging in isn't really needed to download the launcher anyways.
#1930 [18:27] <acerspyro> But how to activate it...
#1931 [18:28] <Marc_IRL> article is updated http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/1003067-error-not-downloaded
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#1934 [18:28] <clarjon1> acerspyro: Why not launch it with the full path to the java you want to use?
#1935 [18:29] <acerspyro> Another question: Where?
#1936 [18:29] * GreyVulpine gives Marc_IRL a thumbs-up
#1936 [18:29] <Guest22469> when i click on your link it brings the page to download- i then click on the zipped file. and it fgoes into my downloads file
#1937 [18:29] <clarjon1> does freebsd have a "whereis" command?
#1938 [18:29] <Marc_IRL> Hopefully you can point people to that now, then field any extra questions they have afterwards
#1939 [18:29] <acerspyro> Wait
#1940 [18:29] <Guest22469> fronm there i click on it to open- which it does- then it asks for my user name and password
#1941 [18:29] <acerspyro> yep
#1942 [18:29] <acerspyro> yep
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#1944 [18:30] <acerspyro> But it's the UNIX VM
#1945 [18:31] <Guest22469> what is this chat- do you work for mojang? are there several chats all mixed together?
#1946 [18:31] <clarjon1> Guest22469: This chat is run by volunteers who enjoy the game, and try to help users out.
#1947 [18:31] <acerspyro> Help chat, if you read
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#1949 [18:33] <Guest22469> what do you mean if I read?
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#1954 [18:42] <Aerobit> Hey guys, I can't generate worlds without crashing. I get a "Exception generating new chunk" error. It would seem to be out of memory, but if I change the the memory allocated to MC it just crashes saying heap full before launch. Full error here: http://paste.sirenfal.com/view/4RuZoSue1
#1955 [18:43] <Lutzee> Aerobit: you have 64bit java installed?
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#1957 [18:43] <Aerobit> I think so.
#1958 [18:43] <Aerobit> lemme check.
#1959 [18:44] <Aerobit> I have JRE7 in 64 bit, and JRE6 & 7 in 32 bit.
#1960 [18:44] <themandud> i need help with mods and how to instal them anny idea were i can get some help?
#1961 [18:44] <Aerobit> themandud, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOvDCZEcR1U
#1962 [18:44] <VoxelHead> Minecraft Magic Launcher: Tutorial | Easiest Way to Install Mods ( by GoIncorporated )
#1963 [18:44] <Lord_Ralex> Aerobit, how were you trying to allocate more memory?
#1964 [18:45] <Aerobit> Lord_Ralex, -Xmx2G -Xms2G
#1965 [18:45] <Lord_Ralex> Aerobit, with "java" ?
#1966 [18:45] <Aerobit> of course
#1967 [18:45] <Lord_Ralex> can you do "java -version" and tell us the output?
#1968 [18:45] <Aerobit> but then I get this
#1969 [18:45] <Aerobit> Error occurred during initialization of VM
#1970 [18:45] <Aerobit> Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine.
#1971 [18:45] <Aerobit> Could not reserve enough space for object heap
#1972 [18:45] <Aerobit> Error: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit.
#1973 [18:45] <Lord_Ralex> Aerobit, do you haev 2G free as well?
#1974 [18:46] <Aerobit> Yep.
#1975 [18:46] <Aerobit> java version "1.7.0_05"
#1976 [18:46] <Lutzee> Aerobit: Sounds like its running on the 32bit JRE
#1977 [18:46] <Lord_Ralex> what is the entire thing
#1978 [18:46] <Aerobit> java version "1.7.0_05"
#1979 [18:46] <Aerobit> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_05-b06)
#1980 [18:46] <Aerobit> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.1-b03, mixed mode)
#1981 [18:46] <Lord_Ralex> Aerobit, that error would mean you don't have 2G free RAM
#1982 [18:47] <Aerobit> Weird, considering I do..
#1983 [18:47] <Aerobit> I'm using 3.5/8GB at the moment
#1984 [18:47] <Aerobit> Eh, I'll just reboot the machine.
#1985 [18:47] <Aerobit> gimme a sec.
#1986 [18:47] <Lord_Ralex> try java -Xmx1536M -Xms1536M
#1987 [18:48] <Aerobit> Huh. Rebooting seems to have done the trick. Sorry to trouble you.
#1988 [18:48] <Lord_Ralex> No problem
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#1993 [18:51] <yolo> hello
#1994 [18:52] <Aerobit> What d'ya need help with?
#1995 [18:52] <yolo> Im having trouble using the minecraft loading screen, it always freezes at Upadating Minecraft:(
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#1997 [18:56] <acerspyro> YESH!
#1998 [18:56] <acerspyro> YESH!
#1999 [18:56] <acerspyro> oops
#2000 [18:57] <acerspyro> Was cleaning my keyboard :P
#2001 [18:57] <acerspyro> I now have minecraft folder :D
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#2004 [19:00] <Aerobit> yay?
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#2006 [19:00] <acerspyro> Yep, yay
#2007 [19:01] <acerspyro> Yippe kai yay, javafucker!
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#2009 [19:02] <ThePandaHat> every time i click to get into one of my worlds, the game either crashes or goes back to the start up screen
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#2011 [19:02] <acerspyro> oops :D
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#2016 [19:05] <acerspyro> My usb drive doesn't shows the right files...
#2017 [19:05] <acerspyro> Instead, it shows a desktop.ini file and an icon instead of the .minecraft folder I moved...
#2018 [19:06] <Lutzee> acerspyro: If you are in a unix enviroment the .minecraft folder is probably hidden
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#2020 [19:06] <Lutzee> press ctrl + H
#2021 [19:06] <acerspyro> TYTYTYTY
#2022 [19:07] <acerspyro> Right, I see. Thanks alot
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#2025 [19:08] <Lutzee> acerspyro: Yes, for the record any folders prepended by a period in their name in unix tends to be classed as hidden
#2026 [19:08] <acerspyro> I know, but I forgot.
#2027 [19:11] <acerspyro> It's uploading to my computer
#2028 [19:12] <acerspyro> Why the hell is minecraft still unable to start?
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#2045 [19:41] <acerspyro> I'm doing everything I can to make minecraft work on FreeBSD, but there will always be a problem... -_-
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#2048 [19:41] <acerspyro> Deleters
#2049 [19:42] <Deleters> ?
#2050 [19:42] <acerspyro> Do you have an idea about what to do next?
#2051 [19:42] <Deleters> Nope.
#2052 [19:42] <acerspyro> Now, it says that a shared liibrary is missing, while it's right there!
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#2054 [19:42] <Lord_Ralex> update it
#2055 [19:43] <Deleters> ?
#2056 [19:43] <acerspyro> Update what? The library?
#2057 [19:43] <Lord_Ralex> yes
#2058 [19:43] <acerspyro> How?
#2059 [19:44] <Lord_Ralex> ??> acerspyro java/lwjgl
#2060 [19:44] <VoxelHead> acerspyro: (java/lwjgl) See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL for a guide on manually updating to a new version of LWJGL.
#2061 [19:44] <acerspyro> ty
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#2065 [19:49] <acerspyro> YASDYGM (Yet Another Slow Download You Gave Me)
#2066 [19:49] <cestislife> Not our fault.
#2067 [19:49] <acerspyro> I know
#2068 [19:50] <acerspyro> Wasn't so long afterall...
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#2070 [19:50] <acerspyro> Lord
#2071 [19:51] <acerspyro> why lwjgl?
#2072 [19:51] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, that is the library minecraft uses, why?
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#2074 [19:52] <acerspyro> Yes, but I meant that java was missing libjli.so
#2075 [19:52] <Lord_Ralex> that is part of the lwjgl
#2076 [19:52] <cestislife> Update it anyway
#2077 [19:52] <acerspyro> kk, but where?
#2078 [19:53] <Lord_Ralex> those directions will cover how to do it
#2079 [19:53] <acerspyro> Where do I put all those files?
#2080 [19:53] <Lord_Ralex> Have you read the page?
#2081 [19:53] <acerspyro> kk, I read
#2082 [19:54] <acerspyro> ooh
#2083 [19:54] <acerspyro> .so files are like windows' dlls?
#2084 [19:59] <acerspyro> Done, and then?
#2085 [19:59] <cestislife> Run the game?
#2086 [19:59] <acerspyro> no
#2087 [19:59] <cestislife> no?
#2088 [19:59] <acerspyro> Did I only need to update it in minecraft?
#2089 [20:00] <cestislife> yeah.
#2090 [20:00] <acerspyro> Then no, it's not running
#2091 [20:00] <acerspyro> It's the same error as later
#2092 [20:00] <Lord_Ralex> pastebin the error
#2093 [20:00] <acerspyro> failed to launch
#2094 [20:00] <acerspyro> Fatal error occured(2): null
#2095 [20:01] <acerspyro> I don't know how many times I typed it today.
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#2097 [20:02] <Nate_> I need help with my Mojang Account
#2098 [20:02] <acerspyro> is it the account problem's day today or wut?
#2099 [20:03] <Nate_> I dont want my minecraft migrated
#2100 [20:03] <acerspyro> Why not?
#2101 [20:03] <Nate_> I want it to the original
#2102 [20:03] <acerspyro> original username?
#2103 [20:03] <Nate_> yes
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#2105 [20:04] <acerspyro> When you play online, the same username will appear
#2106 [20:04] <Nate_> I know
#2107 [20:04] <Nate_> but not at login
#2108 [20:04] <acerspyro> I migrated my account, and my username online is still acerspyro.
#2109 [20:04] <Nate_> I half to enter my email address
#2110 [20:04] <acerspyro> Why don't you want to type your e-mail address at login?
#2111 [20:05] <cestislife> Nate_: Yes, that is the new sign-in procedure, you cannot revert back.
#2112 [20:05] <acerspyro> It will remember it
#2113 [20:05] <Klosjaarrr> All accounts will be migrated, right?
#2114 [20:05] <acerspyro> The launcher will remember your e-mail address
#2115 [20:05] <Nate_> because I just want my original username log in not email log in
#2116 [20:05] <acerspyro> Why don't you want to login with e-mail?
#2117 [20:05] <acerspyro> What's the matter?
#2118 [20:05] <Klosjaarrr> Nate_: This is the 'new' way of logging in, you cannot change it back, sorry
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#2120 [20:05] <acerspyro> We all migrated
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#2122 [20:06] <acerspyro> It's also way safer
#2123 [20:06] <Nate_> how so
#2124 [20:06] <Klosjaarrr> So people ingame don't know your account name
#2125 [20:06] <acerspyro> ^
#2126 [20:07] <Klosjaarrr> that way they have to 'guess' 2 things, login AND password instead of just a password
#2127 [20:07] <acerspyro> yup
#2128 [20:07] <Sean_> hello, I have installed minecraft on my desktop but it only run through the internet and I don't see the actual program on my computer
#2129 [20:07] <acerspyro> Have you downloaded the launcher
#2130 [20:07] <cestislife> Nate_: Refer to this article, see under "Benefits" - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/775905-migrating-from-minecraft-to-mojang
#2131 [20:07] <Klosjaarrr> ??> Sean_ win/.minecraft
#2132 [20:07] <VoxelHead> Sean_: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#2133 [20:07] <Klosjaarrr> Take a look if this map is created
#2134 [20:08] <Sean_> I downloaded the program and I can play on my computer but I can not find the actual program
#2135 [20:08] <cestislife> Minecraft doesn't "install" like most games do.
#2136 [20:08] <cestislife> It downloads the files that is required in the location above.
#2137 [20:08] <acerspyro> Minecraft installs in a hidden folder, called roaming/app-data in 7
#2138 [20:08] <cestislife> And to play it, you run the launcher.
#2139 [20:08] <Klosjaarrr> ^^
#2140 [20:08] <acerspyro> it's in your home directory
#2141 [20:09] <acerspyro> not the launcher
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#2143 [20:10] <Sean_> thanks I will give it a shot!
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#2152 [20:25] <Jade> Minecraft.net won't load on my computer but it loads perfectly fine on my phone.
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#2155 [20:26] <Sean_> Do you have to have the internet on always in order to play minecraft
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#2158 [20:27] <acerspyro> No
#2159 [20:27] <acerspyro> Once you've played online once, you can play offline forever
#2160 [20:28] <Sean_> thanks
#2161 [20:29] <Sean_> could you install the program on two desktop and a laptop and be able to play?
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#2168 [20:31] <acerspyro> If both of em got online at least once, yes
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#2175 [20:33] <acerspyro> Brb, going to switch to opera
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#2177 [20:33] <Sean_> However, it crashes on my laptop after a minute. I have an Dell Inspiron 1720 that is couple years old. When I go to the inventory and get out it crashes
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#2180 [20:40] <Sean_> Dell Inspiron 1720 1.47 GHz, 2 GB Ram, and running windows 7 but it crashes after I go to the inventory in minecraft
#2181 [20:41] <cestislife> ??> Sean_ java/lwjgl
#2182 [20:42] <VoxelHead> Sean_: (java/lwjgl) See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL for a guide on manually updating to a new version of LWJGL.
#2183 [20:42] <cestislife> Try that.
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#2187 [20:44] <acerspyro> I'm back with opera
#2188 [20:46] <acerspyro> Hello?
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#2190 [20:48] <Sean_> Minecraft crashes on my laptop Inspiron Dell 1720 1.47 GHz, 2 GB RAM, windows 7. It crashes when to the inventory. Please help
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#2192 [20:48] <cestislife> Did you update lwjgl like i asked earlier
#2193 [20:49] <Lord_Ralex> cestislife, sounds like the key binding
#2194 [20:49] <cestislife> ??> Sean_ deloptions
#2195 [20:49] <Lord_Ralex> although crash log better
#2196 [20:49] <VoxelHead> Sean_: (deloptions) You may need to reset your Minecraft settings to default. To do so, open your .minecraft directory and delete the files called 'options.txt'.
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#2199 [20:54] <Sean_> Thanks it did work now. it is still a little sluggish compare to my desktop. Is it because it does not have enough memory?
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#2201 [20:55] <Minithra> Hello. Cannot connect to minecraft.net, through mc launcher or browsers. Win7 x64, Latest Java (7 u17.)
#2202 [20:55] <Minithra> Hello. Cannot connect to minecraft.net, through mc launcher or browsers. Win7 x64, Latest Java (7 u17.)
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#2204 [20:56] <acerspyro> Sean_: Maybe it's because of ur graph card, usually bad ones on laptops
#2205 [20:57] <acerspyro> Minithra: Firewall?
#2206 [20:57] <Minithra> Disabled completely, didn't do anything
#2207 [20:57] <Sean_> it says high cpu usage by java ...
#2208 [20:57] <acerspyro> Minithra: Is the network yours? Blocked sites?
#2209 [20:57] <Minithra> Using AVG antivirus, link scanner is disabled and not using the firewall module
#2210 [20:57] <Minithra> No blocked sites that I know of
#2211 [20:57] <Minithra> And yes, home network
#2212 [20:57] <acerspyro> What is the error?
#2213 [20:57] <Minithra> Hosts file is empty
#2214 [20:58] <Minithra> Can't connect to minecraft.net
#2215 [20:58] <Minithra> The launcher loads properly
#2216 [20:58] <acerspyro> in browser?
#2217 [20:58] <Minithra> all the news, etc
#2218 [20:58] <Minithra> can't load page
#2219 [20:58] <acerspyro> says 404 not found?
#2220 [20:58] <Minithra> Could not connect to remote server
#2221 [20:59] <acerspyro> Try again?
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#2223 [20:59] <Minithra> That's in opera, chrome says "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to www.minecraft.net"
#2224 [20:59] <Minithra> pinging mcnetgives me 100% loss
#2225 [20:59] <acerspyro> MCNet is up for me
#2226 [21:00] <acerspyro> Try mojang.com
#2227 [21:00] <Minithra> help.mojang.com loads, mojang.com doesn't
#2228 [21:01] <acerspyro> ...
#2229 [21:01] <Minithra> I know :/
#2230 [21:01] <acerspyro> Try http://www.minecraft.net/ just for fun
#2231 [21:01] <Minithra> Nope, sme thing
#2232 [21:02] <acerspyro> Minecraft.net is a secure page
#2233 [21:02] <acerspyro> Try paypal.com
#2234 [21:02] <acerspyro> it's also secure
#2235 [21:02] <acerspyro> mojang.com is secure too
#2236 [21:03] <acerspyro> so?
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#2238 [21:03] <Minithra> paypal isn't loading...
#2239 [21:03] <acerspyro> Nice
#2240 [21:03] <Minithra> didn't think of that, since my gmail page is open and works
#2241 [21:03] <acerspyro> It's a problem with secure URLs.
#2242 [21:03] <Minithra> how do I fix it?
#2243 [21:04] <acerspyro> Wander around in windows' security options in the control panel
#2244 [21:04] <nash> when loading minecraft receive this error fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#2245 [21:04] <acerspyro> That's very common, nash. Now, the rest of it?
#2246 [21:04] <cestislife> nash: Please post the whole log on pastebin.com
#2247 [21:04] <acerspyro> use wwwpastebin.com
#2248 [21:04] <acerspyro> www.pastebin.com
#2249 [21:04] <Minithra> where exactly in there?
#2250 [21:05] <acerspyro> Minithra: Probably in internet options
#2251 [21:05] <acerspyro> "Probably" because I use FreeBSD
#2252 [21:06] <nash> http://pastebin.com/LUFBEsqp
#2253 [21:06] <Minithra> what am I aiming to do exactly? No blocked sites, security is set at default
#2254 [21:06] <Sean_> Ok. I got the sluggish issue was that the program had to load first and after 5 min. it runs smoothly. Thanks for help. It was great and resolved my major problems.
#2255 [21:06] <acerspyro> Hum
#2256 [21:07] <acerspyro> Minithra, do you have any other computers on your network?
#2257 [21:07] <Minithra> nothing is set up properly, just several computers using the same router. No file sharing or anything of the sort
#2258 [21:07] <Minithra> at the moment this is the only one running
#2259 [21:07] <acerspyro> Try to access minecraft.net on them
#2260 [21:08] <acerspyro> another, random one
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#2262 [21:08] <nash> I set up the pastebin http://pastebin.com/LUFBEsqp
#2263 [21:08] <Minithra> Right, brb
#2264 [21:08] <Lord_Ralex> ??> nash win/dxdiag/bat
#2265 [21:08] <VoxelHead> nash: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#2266 [21:08] <VoxelHead> nash: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#2267 [21:08] <nash> ?
#2268 [21:08] <nash> What
#2269 [21:08] <Lord_Ralex> Do what VoxelHead said
#2270 [21:09] <Minithra> both minecraft.net and mojang.net work on a different computer.
#2271 [21:10] <nash> Can someone help me get win/dxdiag/bat
#2272 [21:10] <cestislife> nash: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#2273 [21:10] <acerspyro> Minithra, then your problem is on your computer.
#2274 [21:10] <cestislife> Download this, and run it
#2275 [21:10] <nash> Okay
#2276 [21:10] <nash> Thanks
#2277 [21:10] <Minithra> What do I do to fix it?
#2278 [21:11] <nash> downloading
#2279 [21:11] <acerspyro> Wait a minute
#2280 [21:11] <Lord_Ralex> Minithra, you probably have your AV doing something
#2281 [21:11] <Minithra> Disabled it entirely right now
#2282 [21:11] <acerspyro> try?
#2283 [21:12] <Minithra> No, it's been disabled, I tried that
#2284 [21:12] <Lord_Ralex> even when disabled it can still be doing stuff
#2285 [21:12] <Minithra> Turned off all AV services until restart. I can unistall it, lets see if that does something
#2286 [21:14] <acerspyro> Lord_Ralex, remember Minithra to re-install it once it is done.
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#2288 [21:14] <Minithra> I won't forget :)
#2289 [21:15] <Minithra> brb, restarting
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#2291 [21:16] <nash> Hello, again ive done the dxdiag heres the pastebin link http://pastebin.com/ydht6Qhj
#2292 [21:19] <cestislife> nash: Hold on, reading it.
#2293 [21:19] <nash> Okay, Thanks.
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#2295 [21:21] <cestislife> nash: Install these drivers; http://www.nvidia.com/object/nzone_downloads_winxp_2k_32bit_93.81.html
#2296 [21:21] <cestislife> Click on "Primary Download Site"
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#2300 [21:22] <Minithra> I can connect to minecraft.net now
#2301 [21:22] <Lord_Ralex> can?
#2302 [21:23] <acerspyro> If I was you' I'd use avast
#2303 [21:23] <Minithra> Game also logs in just fine :D
#2304 [21:23] <Minithra> Yeah, gonna use avast
#2305 [21:23] <Minithra> Thank you very much for the help!
#2306 [21:24] <nash> Okay
#2307 [21:24] <nash> Cestislife il download them
#2308 [21:24] <cestislife> Install it, then restart your computer and see if Minecraft runs.
#2309 [21:28] <nash> Okay great
#2310 [21:28] <nash> il try that
#2311 [21:29] <acerspyro> Lord_Ralex, I find no information online that fits my problem.
#2312 [21:30] <nash> Its downloading Cestislife what is this file suppost to do?????
#2313 [21:30] <cestislife> Update your graphic drivers.
#2314 [21:30] <nash> oh okay thanks
#2315 [21:31] <nash> When i download it do i run it/
#2316 [21:31] <cestislife> After you've downloaded it, run it, it may prompt you to restart your computer, do that.
#2317 [21:31] <cestislife> Then see if Minecraft runs.
#2318 [21:32] <nash> Okay
#2319 [21:32] <nash> did you see what was wrong?
#2320 [21:32] <nash> was it graphics?
#2321 [21:32] <acerspyro> Brb, coming back in 5-10 mins.
#2322 [21:33] <cestislife> nash: Potentially, from your java crash log.
#2323 [21:33] <cestislife> "# Problematic frame:
#2324 [21:33] <cestislife> # C [OpenAL32.dll+0xc059]"
#2325 [21:33] <cestislife> This points towards the drivers.
#2326 [21:33] <nash> Oh okay good to know
#2327 [21:33] <nash> 99% done
#2328 [21:33] <nash> how is you name red? is it like msg?
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#2330 [21:34] <cestislife> A message to you, yes.
#2331 [21:34] <nash> okay
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#2333 [21:35] <nash> "cannot locate any drivers that are compadable with you"
#2334 [21:36] <cestislife> nash: Let's try another.
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#2336 [21:36] <cestislife> Hold on.
#2337 [21:36] <nash> Okay thanks
#2338 [21:36] <cestislife> nash: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71_2.html
#2339 [21:37] <nash> okay il download it
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#2342 [21:43] <acerspyro> Back
#2343 [21:43] <nash> Cestislife "The NVIDIA Setup program could not locate any drivers that are compatible with you're current hardware. Setup will now exit.
#2344 [21:44] <cestislife> Bugger
#2345 [21:44] <cestislife> :l
#2346 [21:44] <acerspyro> Why is everyone's questions ends up successful, but not mine???
#2347 [21:44] <nash> Any ideas now?
#2348 [21:44] <cestislife> nash: I have to search up the drivers from your manufacturer, hold on
#2349 [21:44] <nash> Okay
#2350 [21:44] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, because so few even use linux, even less use freebsd
#2351 [21:44] <acerspyro> Maybe you're right
#2352 [21:44] <acerspyro> But I like UNIX
#2353 [21:45] <acerspyro> very flexible
#2354 [21:45] <acerspyro> very flexible
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#2356 [21:46] <acerspyro> Oh and Lord, How come you know each corner of minecraft?
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#2359 [21:46] <nash> cestislife
#2360 [21:47] <nash> Im sorry accedently quit did you find anything?
#2361 [21:47] <cestislife> nash: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails/Product/latitude-d800?driverId=R71801&osCode=ww1&fileId=2731129335&languageCode=en
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#2363 [21:47] <cestislife> I hope this works for you.
#2364 [21:47] <nash> okay il download
#2365 [21:47] <cestislife> Uh wait
#2366 [21:47] <cestislife> nash: wait
#2367 [21:47] <nash> ?
#2368 [21:48] <cestislife> Lord_Ralex: help me on this, are those the correct drivers?
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#2370 [21:48] <Lord_Ralex> should be
#2371 [21:49] <cestislife> It can't be seeing as they're less than 1mb o.0
#2372 [21:49] <cestislife> In any case, nash, download the "hard drive" file format one
#2373 [21:49] <nash> okay
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#2375 [21:50] <nash> should i save to destop cestislife?
#2376 [21:50] <cestislife> I would assume so, yes.
#2377 [21:51] <nash> okay i have to close all programs il be back in 5 minutes
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#2385 [21:57] <acerspyro> Lord_Ralex, I'm wondering: Why are OSes not coming with Java?
#2386 [21:57] <Lord_Ralex> acerspyro, why should they?
#2387 [21:57] <Lord_Ralex> you don't need java
#2388 [21:58] <cestislife> java is 3rd party.
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#2391 [21:59] <acerspyro> Websites uses alot of Java
#2392 [21:59] <Lord_Ralex> Not really
#2393 [21:59] <acerspyro> Java script?
#2394 [21:59] <Lord_Ralex> Mixture of javascript, css, html, you don't see many requiring java as much
#2395 [21:59] <Lord_Ralex> javascript is not java
#2396 [22:00] <acerspyro> ah
#2397 [22:00] <acerspyro> Is flash coming with the system?
#2398 [22:00] <acerspyro> Mine doesn't
#2399 [22:00] <cestislife> most 3rd party stuff won't come with the os.
#2400 [22:01] <acerspyro> D:
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#2404 [22:02] <MCSWAG01> i need help
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#2406 [22:03] <MCSWAG01> when i try to log on to a premium minecraft server it says java.ioExeption
#2407 [22:03] <MCSWAG01> so how do i fix it
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#2411 [22:06] <badgamecard> i finally recieved notice that my purchase with my credit card made it through and now when i get onto minecraft it says "bad game card" gahhh(I will admit i have a bit of an old computer but can i just buy a new part for it so the game will run?
#2412 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> If you're on a desktop computer that's fairly new, yes.
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#2414 [22:07] <badgamecard> its like late 90's lolll
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#2416 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Then most definitely not
#2417 [22:08] <cestislife> Hmm
#2418 [22:08] <cestislife> If it can even run it, it will have very poor performance.
#2419 [22:08] <cestislife> But let's check it out anyway
#2420 [22:08] <cestislife> ??> badgamecard win/dxdiag/bat
#2421 [22:08] <VoxelHead> badgamecard: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#2422 [22:08] <VoxelHead> badgamecard: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#2423 [22:08] <badgamecard> ^ yes lets
#2424 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> PCI-e wasn't out until very early 2000s. It's probably running AGP, which cards are very hard to come by anyways.
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#2426 [22:11] <badgamecard> damn, im doing the file right now, ill just have to invest in a new desktop
#2427 [22:11] <badgamecard> damn, im doing the file right now, ill just have to invest in a new desktop
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#2430 [22:20] <domestcmodifier> Has anyone ever tried to order minecraft and it said it was not able to use your CC?
#2431 [22:29] <acerspyro> Brb, need reboot
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#2448 [22:36] <acerspyro> Lord_Ralex
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#2450 [22:36] <Lord_Ralex> ?
#2451 [22:36] <acerspyro> I got the linux java to work
#2452 [22:36] <acerspyro> You know what?
#2453 [22:36] <acerspyro> Same error
#2454 [22:37] <acerspyro> |:[
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#2470 [23:06] <Elaytrix> Looking for help on why I cannot reach servers did port forward and did allow minecraft on router cannot connect to any servers period re installed java and minecraft again and restarted pc
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#2474 [23:10] <Elaytrix> Hey deleter you know anything about connection issues
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#2485 [23:22] <acerspyro> Gtg
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#2499 [23:51] <kirt> will not download
#2500 [23:52] <kirt> I bought a game card and followed the instructions and it will not download
#2501 [23:53] <kirt> r u there aubot?
#2502 [23:53] <cestislife> kirt: http://minecraft.net/download
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#2504 [23:55] <kirt> thanks cestislife but what do I do?
#2505 [23:55] <cestislife> Download the launcher.
#2506 [23:55] <cestislife> Login with your mojang email and password
#2507 [23:55] <cestislife> If you are successful, it will download the game, and run it.
#2508 [23:55] <cestislife> If you have not created a mojang account, I suggest doing so at http://account.mojang.com
#2509 [23:55] <kirt> thank you!
#2510 [23:56] <cestislife> And if so, you might not have redeemed the card yet, which you can do on http://account.mojang.com/redeem
#2511 [23:57] <kirt> I have a username and password but will not download, says unable to download.
#2512 [23:57] <cestislife> kirt: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/1003067-error-not-downloaded
#2513 [23:57] <cestislife> Please refer to that article
#2514 [23:59] <kirt> There is no error message, it just will simply not download annd says unable to