#1 [00:00] <macnoob> thought it was newest version
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#3 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Downloaded it from where?
#4 [00:00] <macnoob> minecraft website or so i thought
#5 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> ..so you thought?
#6 [00:01] <macnoob> my wife and son were involved in the actual download process
#7 [00:01] <macnoob> should i uninstall and reinstall?
#8 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> macnoob - No. Happen to still have that crash report?
#9 [00:02] <macnoob> yes
#10 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Please look through it, near the bottom, you should see a "System Details" line. Below that, a Minecraft version line. What does it say there?
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#13 [00:04] <Ariadnne> well~ I'm going to sleep now, It's 5 a.m. here..... sooo good night to u all, and thanks for help.
#14 [00:04] <macnoob> oh..duh according to that it is 1.5
#15 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> macnoob - Then you are experiencing the 1.5 minecraft mac issue.
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#17 [00:04] <macnoob> noooooooo!!!
#18 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Now then. Would you still like to try downgrading to 1.4.7?
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#20 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Or would you like to try the experimental 1.5.1 dev pre-release?
#21 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Or would you like to try the experimental 1.5.1 dev pre-release?
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#23 [00:05] <macnoob> which would you suggest
#24 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> It's up to you. Either works fine.
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#27 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Either version will upgrade to 1.4.7 (with a force update in the launcher), when 1.5.1 officially releases
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#29 [00:06] <macnoob> 1.4.7 sounds good
#30 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> er, 1.5.1
#31 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Alright then. Please start with downloading http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_7/minecraft.jar to your desktop for me.
#32 [00:07] <macnoob> ok done
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#34 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Now. While on your desktop, please press your command+shift+g keys to bring up the "Go to Folder" command. Type in exactly: ~/Library/Application Support/.minecraft/bin
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#36 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. You should now see a bin folder, where a minecraft.jar file is located. Please drag the minecraft.jar file you just downloaded to the bin folder, overwriting the old one.
#37 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> Crap, one second
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#39 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin
#40 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> Forgot the mac version has "minecraft" and not ".minecraft" with a period.
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#42 [00:10] <macnoob> sorry i dont see a command key
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#44 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> On your keyboard, lower left. Key between the ctrl and alt keys. Looks like a cloverleaf
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#47 [00:14] <macnoob> it says folder cannot be found...is it case sensitive?
#48 [00:14] <cutie> so i am trying to but but when I run teh demo it says mine craft has crashed
#49 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> macnoob - Use: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/
#50 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> cutie - Please copy the entire crash report to www.pastebin.com and submit it, then give us the URL so that we may read it
#51 [00:15] <cutie> I am trying to buy minecraft but when I play demo link it all loads and then white screen says minecraft has crashed
#52 [00:16] <macnoob> is that first symbol a dash or squigly thing
#53 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> It's a Tilde. ~
#54 [00:17] <macnoob> woohoo success
#55 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Now, head into the bin folder. Copy the minecraft.jar from your desktop that you just downloaded, to that folder
#56 [00:18] <macnoob> drag and drop?
#57 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#58 [00:18] <macnoob> ok...i think that worked
#59 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Launch minecraft.
#60 [00:20] <macnoob> seems to be working. so do not update until thursday?
#61 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Right
#62 [00:20] <macnoob> the saves should still be there?
#63 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#64 [00:20] <macnoob> thank you so much....you are fantastic
#65 [00:20] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#65 [00:21] <macnoob> lol. see you next time i screw things up.
#66 [00:21] <BrickViking> three minutes and counting?
#67 [00:21] * BrickViking giggles... sorry, couldn't resist that.
#67 [00:21] <macnoob> hey now...
#68 [00:21] <macnoob> i'm good for at least 4
#69 [00:21] <BrickViking> Good luck.
#70 [00:22] <macnoob> thx guys
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#72 [00:25] <cutie> so I can not seem to get to the location where it says it saved the fail log
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#74 [00:26] <cutie> it says user/admin/library .... no library
#75 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> Library is hidden on mac os Lion and above.
#76 [00:26] <cutie> is that easy to show hidden files on mac not super mac user
#77 [00:26] <cutie> trying to do this for teenage daughter
#78 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> I can already tell you that the demo does not work on Macs, unfortunately.
#79 [00:27] <cutie> ohh... ok so do you think if I go ahead and buy we should be ok
#80 [00:28] <cutie> ???
#81 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft works fine on macs, there's an issue currently that the most recent version of minecraft is incompatible with macs, but the next release solves this issue.
#82 [00:28] <cutie> i have all the things it wants me to do as far as OS, java and cookies
#83 [00:29] <cutie> so dont buy today?
#84 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> The next minecraft version of 1.5.1 is slated for Thursday. Or we can walk you through on how to downgrade to 1.4.7, just like you saw with macnoob previously.
#85 [00:29] <cutie> ohhh was not paying attention
#86 [00:29] <DiskDaemon> cutie: You can buy whenever you like, but on macs there is a temporary issue that will be fixed very soon
#87 [00:30] <cutie> ok well we will just try again on Thursday... Thank you again for your help
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#91 [00:31] <cutie> see u Thursday
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#98 [00:40] <Makkenhoff> I'm having problems with the 1.5 update (Linux mint 13, open JDK 6) Getting a black screen (crash)
#99 [00:41] <Makkenhoff> Caused by: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 0 at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR$Screen.<init>(XRandR.java:234) at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR$Screen.<init>(XRandR.java:196) at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR.populate(XRandR.java:87) at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR.access$100(XRandR.java:52) at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR$1.run(XRandR.java:110)
#100 [00:42] <Makkenhoff> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR.getConfiguration(XRandR.java:108) at org.lwjgl.opengl.LinuxDisplay.init(LinuxDisplay.java:618) at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.<clinit>(Display.java:135) ... 4 more
#101 [00:44] <tyteen4a03> Makkenhoff, firstly, use pastebin
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#103 [00:45] <tyteen4a03> Makkenhoff, sounds like you need a driver update
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#116 [00:46] <Makkenhoff> Haven't been on IRC since the early 90's. But, gotcha for future reference. ;)
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#131 [00:48] <Makkenhoff> It was working before the 1.5 patch without an update, though I'm using an older laptop that uses an Intel GMA.
#132 [00:49] <BrickViking> ugh.
#133 [00:50] <tyteen4a03> Makkenhoff, 1.5 requires OpenGL 2+, which any non-HD-branded Intel GPU driver lacks
#134 [00:50] <Makkenhoff> Tell me about it. My main computer went down CPU fan ball bearings going bad, causing overheat. ;)
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#136 [00:50] <Makkenhoff> That would do it.
#137 [00:50] <tyteen4a03> Makkenhoff, 1.5.1 might fix this issue but in the long run I wouldn't recommend using Intel GPUs for gaming
#138 [00:50] <tyteen4a03> s/might/will
#139 [00:50] <tyteen4a03> BrickViking, yup, all the join/quit at one second
#140 [00:51] <BrickViking> tyteen4a03: ... wha?
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#142 [00:51] <Makkenhoff> Appreciate the comments tyteen. At least I know what the trouble is.
#143 [00:51] <tyteen4a03> BrickViking, you should see the join/quit record, no?
#144 [00:51] <tyteen4a03> if not, not sure what you're 'ugh'ing about
#145 [00:52] <tyteen4a03> Makkenhoff, no problem
#146 [00:52] <BrickViking> not on my screen, no. And the "ugh" was in response to "intel" and "graphics"
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#148 [00:52] <tyteen4a03> I see
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#150 [00:53] <Makkenhoff> No one said I liked the situation :P
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#177 [00:56] <tyteen4a03> aaand we have a netsplit
#178 [00:57] <cestislife> wheeeeeee
#179 [00:58] <BrickViking> I'm so grateful my machine comes with an ATI HD3450 video card in addition to the Nvidia GeForce 7100 that is on the motherboard
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#232 [02:41] <rob> Minecraft crashed where do I report it?
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#234 [02:41] <BrickViking> start at help.mojang.com I would guess
#235 [02:42] <Guest60543> I did... haha I checked out all the articles and I see no email address or any other form of communication to send a 'crash report'
#236 [02:42] <Guest60543> I thought this was it...
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#240 [02:44] <BrickViking> then let's start. What was the crash?
#241 [02:45] <Guest60543> So I just bought a new laptop running windows 8 and I install Java then load up Minecraft. Everything was good until I went to settings and tried switching full-screen mode to on.
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#243 [02:46] <Guest60543> Now everytime I boot up Minecraft I get an error and I have the crash report if it's helpful
#244 [02:47] <BrickViking> okay. Let's try this then.
#245 [02:48] <BrickViking> Do you know where your .minecraft folder is/
#246 [02:48] <BrickViking> ?
#247 [02:48] <Guest60543> yeah
#248 [02:48] <Guest60543> in appdata
#249 [02:48] <BrickViking> please head into there with a file browser.
#250 [02:48] <BrickViking> (i.e. Explorer)
#251 [02:48] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Guest60543 deloptions
#252 [02:48] <VoxelHead> Guest60543: (deloptions) You may need to reset your Minecraft settings to default. To do so, open your .minecraft directory and delete the files called 'options.txt'.
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#254 [02:48] <Guest60543> okay
#255 [02:48] <BrickViking> I was going to adjust one line
#256 [02:48] <BrickViking> ... not remove the options
#257 [02:49] <Lord_Ralex> BrickViking, deleting it is a bit easier :P
#258 [02:49] <BrickViking> might be, but then he has to start from scratch on his settings.
#259 [02:49] <BrickViking> If he can edit it in notepad, then he'll be able to fix it
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#261 [02:49] <Guest60543> The settings aren't that important, starting from scratch would be fine. You folks are intelligent as falk...
#262 [02:50] <twitch> hi how to do you fix fatal error 5 : windows_natives.jar.lzma
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#264 [02:50] <BrickViking> Guest60543: okay. If you're prepared to start from scratch, then go ahead and remove it
#265 [02:50] <Guest60543> Alright doing so now
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#267 [02:50] <BrickViking> otherwise, altering the "fullscreen" to false...
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#270 [02:51] <twitch> um im tryin to try the demo but it keeps giving me fatal error five and idk what to do
#271 [02:52] <BrickViking> twitch: open up an Explorer window. Into the address bar, put in "%appdata%"
#272 [02:52] <Guest60543> Thank you guys so much!! It worked!
#273 [02:52] <BrickViking> there's a .minecraft directory in that %appdata% directory
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#275 [02:52] <BrickViking> if you want to start again, remove that .minecraft directory (or at least rename it)
#276 [02:53] <Lord_Ralex> twitch, what is the full error it gives you
#277 [02:53] <twitch> 1 sec
#278 [02:55] <twitch> Fatal error occured (5): A device attached to the system is not functioning Extracting:windows_natives.jar.lzma to windows_natives.jar
#279 [02:56] <BrickViking> twitch.... hmmm.
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#281 [02:57] <twitch> treid typing "%appdata%" in address bar takes me to google search
#282 [02:57] <twitch> tried*
#283 [02:58] <BrickViking> uhm, I said "Explorer" not Internet Explorer
#284 [02:58] <BrickViking> i.e. you want a file browser
#285 [02:58] <twitch> srry im computer illiterate at times
#286 [02:59] <Lord_Ralex> twitch, you need to reinstall java
#287 [02:59] <Lord_Ralex> go to the Control Panel, and uninstall java from that
#288 [03:00] <twitch> okay give me one sec i delete the .minecraft folder and download looks promising
#289 [03:00] <BrickViking> then download java (preferably Java 7 )
#290 [03:00] <twitch> yep same error ill try that
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#292 [03:04] <twitch_> sorry had to shut down browser for a sec
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#297 [03:09] <twitch> hey guys uninstalled it all got most up to date java and still could not load up got same fatal error
#298 [03:09] <Lord_Ralex> twitch, what java version did you install?
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#300 [03:09] <twitch> java 7 update 17
#301 [03:10] <twitch> from the java website said it was most updated
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#303 [03:10] <twitch> this is really depressing lol
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#305 [03:12] <aeries> hi , my minecraft keep saying ( not downloaded ) and i dont know what to do?
#306 [03:12] <twitch> like it downloads fine all the way up to the windows natives then iit fails
#307 [03:12] <BrickViking> how does it "fail"?
#308 [03:13] <aeries> yes , i download the game from the website, bought the game , and i played it yesterday fine. but today doesnt work?
#309 [03:13] <twitch> just stops downloadding and says that fatal error
#310 [03:13] <BrickViking> when you start the launcher, did you head into Options and select "Force Update"?
#311 [03:14] <twitch> its the demo? im trying to make sure it will run properly or at all even before i buy it
#312 [03:14] <aeries> no its not
#313 [03:14] <twitch> failed to launnch
#314 [03:14] <aeries> i played it yesterday fine
#315 [03:15] <aeries> but today it wont let me log in
#316 [03:16] <aeries> it comes up, but when i log in, it says (login fail)
#317 [03:16] <aeries> what do i do
#318 [03:17] <twitch> gonna restart my computer and try that i guess
#319 [03:18] <BrickViking> aeries: have you got the correct password and user account?
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#321 [03:18] <tyteen4a03> ??> twitch demo
#322 [03:18] <VoxelHead> twitch: (demo) You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#323 [03:18] * tyteen4a03 shrugs
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#324 [03:27] <Fives> Anyone here
#325 [03:27] <Fives> ?
#326 [03:27] <BrickViking> several of us...
#327 [03:27] <DiskDaemon> All of us, I'd say
#328 [03:28] <Fives> Well I meant is anyone not idle, I can see there are.
#329 [03:30] <Fives> So I can only run Minecraft when I have my hardware acceleratin at a certain setting. If I change it to full I get the bad video card drivers error.
#330 [03:30] <Fives> I wan't to change it to full because I assume Muinecraft will run faster, am I wrong there?
#331 [03:31] <Lord_Ralex> Not always
#332 [03:31] <Fives> Well, easiest way to find out is to test it, so does anyone know how to fix the hardware acceleration issue?
#333 [03:31] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Fives win/dxdiag/bat
#334 [03:31] <VoxelHead> Fives: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file
#335 [03:31] <VoxelHead> Fives: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
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#341 [03:34] <Fives> Kay, just a sec
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#343 [03:37] <Fives> Sorry for the wait. http://pastebin.com/bpPp735L
#344 [03:38] <Fives> Do you want the crash report too?
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#348 [03:40] <twitch>
#349 [03:40] <twitch> so
#350 [03:40] <twitch> when i try to play the demo i get fatal error 5
#351 [03:41] <BrickViking> sigh. still?
#352 [03:41] <twitch> yup tried updating java nogo
#353 [03:41] <twitch> kicked out filed and nogo
#354 [03:41] <twitch> ne more options?
#355 [03:41] <BrickViking> hm...
#356 [03:42] <BrickViking> so, that %appdata% directory, did you head in there?
#357 [03:42] <Fives> Anyone news on my issue?
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#359 [03:42] <Fives> *any]
#360 [03:43] <BrickViking> I'll leave that one for others, fives
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#362 [03:43] <Fives> VoxelHead?
#363 [03:44] <cestislife> Fives: If you had to tinker with your hardware acceleration settings, then your computer is too old to run Minecraft effectively.
#364 [03:44] <twitch> yup and nada
#365 [03:44] <DiskDaemon> The info about switchable graphics is most likely to be relevant for Fives
#366 [03:44] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/discrete
#367 [03:44] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#368 [03:44] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#369 [03:44] <BrickViking> sigh.
#370 [03:45] <cestislife> He does not have any other cards installed, judging from the DxDiag though.
#371 [03:45] <Fives> So, there's no way that you guys know to get Minecraft rinning on full hardware acceleration?
#372 [03:46] <BrickViking> not me personally, no.
#373 [03:46] <BrickViking> Fives: do you have Intel graphics?
#374 [03:46] <cestislife> BrickViking: He provided a dxdiag earlier.
#375 [03:46] <cestislife> It's a Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset.
#376 [03:47] <cestislife> And I see no other cards installed.
#377 [03:47] <BrickViking> my apologies. I'll go look at the pastebin... oh god. THAT chipset.
#378 [03:47] <Fives> Yes, Intel.
#379 [03:47] <BrickViking> Isn't that a mobile chipset?
#380 [03:47] <Fives> As in, I video hard outside the case? No.
#381 [03:47] <DiskDaemon> Here are the specs for that particular machine http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11948_div/11948_div.HTML
#382 [03:48] <Fives> Hah, thanks I may use that.
#383 [03:48] <BrickViking> .... weird. the pastebin shows an empty file.
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#385 [03:49] <BrickViking> oh not aflamingain...
#386 [03:49] <BrickViking> sorry. have to give my Chrome a kick in the fork again.
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#388 [03:50] <Fives> How did you find that DiskDaemon?
#389 [03:50] <SinZ> DiskDaemon is magical, thats howl.
#390 [03:51] <DiskDaemon> It's a gift, and sometimes a curse
#391 [03:51] <BrickViking> oh lord. that chipset has lower specs than my wife's ATI Radeon 9550!
#392 [03:52] <DiskDaemon> Fives: I think that you're getting about the best that might be possible from that particular machine
#393 [03:54] <Fives> Some people say setting java at a higher priority gives it a boost, thers say it's a bad idea, what do you guys think?
#394 [03:54] <Fives> Through task manager.
#395 [03:54] <DiskDaemon> I wouldn't advise it
#396 [03:54] <cestislife> It makes it become unstable.
#397 [03:54] <cestislife> You might crash your computer as a whole.
#398 [03:55] <BrickViking> Yeah, I won't even do that on Linux. On Windows, it's a nono.
#399 [03:55] <Fives> What's the option there for then?
#400 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> oh gods, he's going to go ahead anyway and do it
#401 [03:56] <cestislife> Really not meant for end users.
#402 [03:56] <Fives> What if I only set it to above normal?
#403 [03:56] <BrickViking> I'm reasonably experienced, and I refuse to do it.
#404 [03:56] <cestislife> You can try, but don't say we didn't warn you.
#405 [03:56] <Fives> Who does use it then?
#406 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> The option is there in order to give people enough rop with which to hang themself
#407 [03:57] <cestislife> Deja vu moment.
#408 [03:57] <DiskDaemon> who uses it? Mostly people who don't know enough about what it's good to be used for
#409 [03:58] <Fives> What is it good to be used for?
#410 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> Details about prioritising threads are at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-nz/library/windows/desktop/ms685100(v=vs.85).aspx
#411 [03:59] <BrickViking> only any good for very-well-behaved programs that need a bit of a hand
#412 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> Please read, and come back to us with any questions that you may have about the content there
#413 [03:59] <BrickViking> but yeah, most programs aren't "very well behaved"
#414 [03:59] <BrickViking> could have used the en-us variant.
#415 [04:00] <DiskDaemon> I use what's there :)
#416 [04:01] <BrickViking> the important statement is here: The high-priority class should be reserved for threads that must respond to time-critical events.
#417 [04:02] <Fives> One more question before I read this, will Minecraft ever be well behaved?
#418 [04:02] <BrickViking> hahahahaH!H!H!hack hack coughp...
#419 [04:02] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft is already well behaved :)
#420 [04:02] <BrickViking> yeah, right. And I'm about to code Windows Blue.
#421 [04:03] <Fives> Kay I'm gotta go do something, then I'll read it, then I'll report back.
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#424 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> I am reminded of this page, about the performance difference if javascript were infinately fast http://www.slideshare.net/doris1/performance-optimization-and-javascript-best-practices/33
#425 [04:12] <tyteen4a03> but then JavaScript and Java are different things
#426 [04:12] <tyteen4a03> BrickViking, Windows Blue... the horror
#427 [04:12] <DiskDaemon> Yes, much as ham and hamster are different too
#428 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> I don't wish to here go in to why Brendon Eich chose to go with JavaScript when he created the language, but I will if the interest is there
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#431 [04:31] <Fives> So what did you mean by well behaved?
#432 [04:31] <Fives> As in doesn't hog resoureces?
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#434 [04:33] <Fives> VoxelHead, DeskDaemon?
#435 [04:33] <DiskDaemon> Fives: In that, it's most commonly issues with the computer that have to be fixed now - instead of with the game.
#436 [04:34] <Fives> Sorry, in what?
#437 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> In other words, you cannot program your way out of old slow crappy hardware
#438 [04:35] <Fives> Ohh, so if I had a great computer it would be less of a bad idea to higher priority?
#439 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> No - that's still a bad idea
#440 [04:36] <DiskDaemon> Will you water your garden more effectively with a pressure-hose?
#441 [04:37] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon, I just noticed the MIME type text/javascript is obsolete
#442 [04:37] <Fives> One of you said before that it is ok to higher the priority of 'very well behaved' programs.
#443 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> I wouldn't consider Java to be well behaved
#444 [04:41] <Fives> I see, so it depends more on the JVM then Minecraft?
#445 [04:41] <Fives> *than
#446 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#447 [04:42] <Fives> Do you know a way of determining a drive's speed?
#448 [04:42] <DiskDaemon> sure
#449 [04:42] <Fives> Without ripping it out.
#450 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#451 [04:44] <Fives> You're beggining to sound like a bot. How?
#452 [04:44] <DiskDaemon> You can find out the type of drive from your system information program, under components>storage>disks>model
#453 [04:45] <Fives> Where is components?
#454 [04:46] <Fives> I mean, the system information program, sorry.
#455 [04:46] <DiskDaemon> It's in your start menu
#456 [04:46] <Fives> Or is this only assuming I have one?
#457 [04:46] <Fives> System properties?
#458 [04:46] <DiskDaemon> Type in the word "system" or "information" - it's easy to spot. It's called "System Information"
#459 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> Press the windows key on your keyboard, or click on the Start orb at the bottom-left of your computer screen. Then type in the search field that appears
#460 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> Want to know what the windows key is?
#461 [04:48] <Fives> Are you mocking me?
#462 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> hell no - we get those questions here all the time
#463 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/key
#464 [04:48] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#465 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> And even . . .
#466 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/key/image
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#468 [04:48] <VoxelHead> win/key/image: NOTE: It is the one in the middle. May not appear exactly as shown. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Ctl_wndws_alt.jpg
#469 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> would you believe it
#470 [04:48] <janina> Hey
#471 [04:48] <Fives> I guess.
#472 [04:49] <janina> i need some advice
#473 [04:49] <Fives> I'm running XP here so I can't search, but I found it.
#474 [04:49] <Fives> If anyone else asks, you can find it by searching or typing in run 'msinfo32'.
#475 [04:49] <Fives> Well I assume you can search that too.
#476 [04:49] <tyteen4a03> janina, ask away
#477 [04:50] <Fives> Usuallt things that work in run work in search too.
#478 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> If anyone says they're using XP, there are different instructions for them
#479 [04:50] <tyteen4a03> Fives, last time I checked, msinfo32 does not display fan speed
#480 [04:50] <tyteen4a03> hard disk drive's speed, even
#481 [04:50] * tyteen4a03 needs coffee
#481 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> If gives the model number of the hard drive, with which a search of the specs for that drive pay me performed
#482 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> *may
#483 [04:51] <Fives> Maybe not, but it opens 'System Information' which is where DeskDaemon pointed me towrds.
#484 [04:51] <Fives> ^
#485 [04:51] <janina> so my boys are like fanatic when it comes to minecraft and i just bought minecraft for mac . i downloaded it but i cant install it, i unzip it, but it wont open, my boys wants to use mods and i cant install them if i dont have any minecraft files on my computer
#486 [04:51] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon, oh
#487 [04:51] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon, win/nodxdiag
#488 [04:52] <tyteen4a03> that would be the factoid for msinfo32
#489 [04:53] <DiskDaemon> Fives: find the model yet?
#490 [04:53] <tyteen4a03> ??+ win/speedfan|fixing later
#491 [04:54] <Fives> Found 'Volume Serial Number', that's probably it.
#492 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> Fives: Are you looking in Drives, or Disks?
#493 [04:55] <Fives> Err, what's the difference? I want to find how fast my hard drive and flash drive are.
#494 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> Drives have info about the software, Disks has info about the hardware
#495 [04:57] <DiskDaemon> <mutter>I even gave specific instructions to go to Disks</mutter>
#496 [04:58] <Fives> So how do I file access speeds, if those terms are correct...
#497 [04:58] <DiskDaemon> pardon?
#498 [04:59] <Fives> Some drives are faster at bringign up files than others.
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#501 [05:00] <Fives> I want to determine which is faster, my hard drive or my flash.
#502 [05:00] <Fives> Dirve.
#503 [05:00] <DiskDaemon> Was "file" a verb, as in a filing cabinet?
#504 [05:00] <DiskDaemon> With the model number of the hard drive, it's possible to search for information that relates specifically to that hard drive
#505 [05:00] <DiskDaemon> such as its speed
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#508 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> but I can tell you now - damn near every hard drive is orders of magnitude faster than usb drives
#509 [05:02] <Fives> Yeah: "Your search - ACECOC20 - did not match any documents." ACECOM20 was listed in System Information in the Volume Serial Number field.
#510 [05:02] <Fives> In drives.
#511 [05:02] * DiskDaemon head desks
#511 [05:02] <DiskDaemon> Don't use the Drives Drives section - use the Disks section
#512 [05:03] <Fives> Ooops, may bad, sorry.
#513 [05:06] <janina> all those install mod guidelines that i have, all say that i need to have in my mac is a minecraft folder in library/application support/ but i dont have, any idea what now?
#514 [05:08] <DiskDaemon> janina: Hopefully someone here who uses macs may be able to help
#515 [05:08] <janina> i hope that too
#516 [05:09] <cestislife> janina: What Mac OS version are you running?
#517 [05:10] <janina> OS X 10.8.3
#518 [05:11] <cestislife> As far as I know there may be 2 application support folders
#519 [05:11] <cestislife> Of which 1 is hidden.
#520 [05:11] <cestislife> ??> janina mac/.minecraft/lion
#521 [05:11] <VoxelHead> janina: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#522 [05:11] <cestislife> Hopefully you'll be able to find it now.
#523 [05:14] <janina> wont work, so is it normal when i download the zip file, ill unzip it and then klick on mine craft and it opens and we can play, but, still i cant see any minecraft files where i could download mods
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#525 [05:16] <cestislife> You cannot find this location? ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#526 [05:16] <janina> no i cannot
#527 [05:17] <cestislife> I have no idea then :S
#528 [05:18] <janina> im from finland so my english isnt so good so ill try to explain some other way, i myself love playing world of warcraft and when i install that for the 1st time it really installs all the data, but this minecraft, i download it and when it opens im ready to play, no installing files
#529 [05:19] <cestislife> Minecraft does not mess with the registry, so it does not "install", but rather it just downloads the necessary files for it to run.
#530 [05:19] <janina> ok so now i understand that, but this missing file in that library, dont get it
#531 [05:20] <cestislife> in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support.
#532 [05:20] <cestislife> The the folder "minecraft" not there?
#533 [05:21] <janina> its not there, just adobe, apple, idvd and so on
#534 [05:22] <cestislife> I have no idea then, I am not a Mac user myself.
#535 [05:22] <janina> ok, thanks, ill try somehow find it
#536 [05:22] <janina> ok, thanks, ill try somehow find it
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#542 [05:55] <Fives> Btw I did find my HDD
#543 [05:55] <Fives> oops
#544 [05:55] <Fives> HDD's RPM but it seems i've lost my flash drive...
#545 [05:57] <DiskDaemon> That could be because usb storage devices aren't disks
#546 [05:58] <DiskDaemon> Hmm, hang on. I see my own usb drive in the Disks area
#547 [06:02] <Fives> No no, I apologise. I meant that I've pphysicaly lost it, so the HDD info is useless unless I find it again.
#548 [06:07] <Fives> I'll probably be able to finfd the model# on the flash drive it's self.
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#551 [06:12] <Fives> So why do you guys volenteer to do this? Just because?
#552 [06:12] <Fives> Cuz it's nice, to mock noobs? :P
#553 [06:13] <DiskDaemon> Because we love the game, and want to help others to enjoy it too. Simple as that.
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#556 [06:13] <Fives> That might have sounded bad, not 'nice to mock noobs', 'it's nice' or 'to mock noobs'.
#557 [06:13] <Fives> I see.
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#561 [06:17] <Fives> I'm interested, are any of you guys modders?
#562 [06:18] <Fives> I'm just interested, I'm not gonna ask you to make me one.
#563 [06:18] <DiskDaemon> some
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#565 [06:18] <Fives> You?
#566 [06:19] <DiskDaemon> I'm involved with one, yes
#567 [06:19] <Fives> Oh cool, which one?
#568 [06:19] <DiskDaemon> aethermod
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#571 [06:19] <Fives> Huh, that's so cool.
#572 [06:20] <Fives> What do you think about the direction Minecraft is heading?
#573 [06:21] <DiskDaemon> I like it
#574 [06:22] <Fives> So what part of the Aether do/did you work on?
#575 [06:22] <DiskDaemon> some of the modelling, debugging, ideas, etc...
#576 [06:24] <Fives> Program the models or use something like umodel?
#577 [06:25] <DiskDaemon> model creation
#578 [06:25] <Fives> I mean Techne, oops not umodel.
#579 [06:25] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#580 [06:25] <Fives> Yeah but did you program the models or use amodeling software?
#581 [06:26] <DiskDaemon> It was techne, which can take quite some fiddling so that the different parts of the model are easily able to be animated
#582 [06:27] <Fives> Did you do the animations for your models too?
#583 [06:28] <DiskDaemon> Some, yes
#584 [06:30] <Fives> Also why do you need a batch file to get the dxdiag.txt?
#585 [06:30] <Fives> You can get it from dxdiag its self.
#586 [06:30] <tyteen4a03> Fives, you don't
#587 [06:30] <Fives> Yes, so why use it?
#588 [06:30] <tyteen4a03> Fives, batch file exists for people who don't know a lot about computers
#589 [06:30] <tyteen4a03> the "you don't" statement was a reply to your first statement
#590 [06:31] <Fives> Hmm, doesn't seem any less confusing too me but meh.
#591 [06:31] <Fives> And I know.
#592 [06:31] <tyteen4a03> Fives, stupidity and ignorance unfortunately have no limits
#593 [06:32] <Necrodoom> yep
#594 [06:32] <Necrodoom> see some support tickets
#595 [06:32] <Fives> *reluctantly agreeing smile*
#596 [06:33] <DiskDaemon> ooh that reminds me - /me searches for a particularly good recent support ticket example
#597 [06:33] <Necrodoom> i still see people who think terraria is a branch of minecraft
#598 [06:33] <Necrodoom> and try to run bukkit ontop of terraria software
#599 [06:34] <Fives> Oh my.
#600 [06:34] <Fives> Aparently Terraria is a mess of code.
#601 [06:34] <Fives> Don'
#602 [06:34] <Fives> t take moy word though.
#603 [06:34] <cestislife> It has its bugs yes, but it's a fun game nonetheless.
#604 [06:35] <Fives> Yeah, I've been meaning to get it, it looks amazing.
#605 [06:35] <Fives> help
#606 [06:35] <Fives> oops
#607 [06:35] <Fives> Sorry.
#608 [06:35] <DiskDaemon> This isn't the one I was looking for, but it's still a good indicitive one http://notalwaysworking.com/guide-me-away-from-this-madness/29040
#609 [06:36] <DiskDaemon> Aha! Here's the support ticket that I was looking for http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Im-Sensing-Some-Tension.aspx
#610 [06:39] <Fives> That's amazing!
#611 [06:39] <Fives> The first one.
#612 [06:43] <Fives> Wow that one's great too.
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#614 [06:46] <Necrodoom> lol
#615 [06:46] <Fives> It's not bad to kill explorer temporarily is it?
#616 [06:47] <DiskDaemon> it's not bad
#617 [06:47] <Fives> Thanks.
#618 [06:48] <Fives> Do you know of any pages for help going about disabling services?
#619 [06:49] <DiskDaemon> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/security/10-services-to-turn-off-in-ms-windows-xp/354
#620 [06:50] <Fives> Thanks, and ram distribution, how do I know how much to give Minecraft?
#621 [06:50] <DiskDaemon> 384 meg is enough for minecraft
#622 [06:51] <Fives> Doesn't it depends on how much ram my machine has? And If that was true, why isn't it default?
#623 [06:52] <DiskDaemon> because it's not wise to default without accounting for foolishness
#624 [06:52] <Fives> What do you mean by that?
#625 [06:52] <DiskDaemon> what do I mean? People do dumb shit
#626 [06:53] <Fives> Yes yes, but if 1024 (I think) is default, why do you recomend 384?
#627 [06:54] <DiskDaemon> Would you like me to direct you to the Minecraft optimisation guide? Details are there
#628 [06:55] <Fives> Sure.
#629 [06:55] <Fives> Is that really Dinnerbone there?
#630 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-24-1-updated-on-mar-14-2013/
#631 [07:00] <Fives> Thanks but if you don't mind answering, why does java default to 1GB?
#632 [07:00] <DiskDaemon> Because those defaults are for all java programs that might fun on the computer. Not just 1 out of a million of them that happens to be called Minecraft
#633 [07:01] <DiskDaemon> *run
#634 [07:02] <Fives> I thought the majority java programs were s
#635 [07:02] <Fives> ooops
#636 [07:02] <Fives> smaller than Minecraft, I thought wrong?
#637 [07:02] <Fives> Oh, so 1GB just encase..
#638 [07:02] <DiskDaemon> Normally yes, but the default setting of 1 gig allows for even more massive foolishness that people might try to run
#639 [07:03] <Fives> Why does this say that batch files are unsafe?
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#641 [07:04] <ncboy20> Hey, can you help me please?
#642 [07:04] <DiskDaemon> I suspect because it's easy to mistakenly trust that they won't do anything that you don't intend to your machine
#643 [07:04] <ncboy20> I Just downloaded minecraft on my new i7 PC, but weird error is here. Says updating minecraft, letters are fcked up and after update black screen.
#644 [07:04] <ncboy20> I Have latest java.
#645 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> Fives: In other words - hey! Here's a batch file. Run it, it'll solve your problems. (you run it). I now have all your passwords. Bye!
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#647 [07:05] <Fives> I see, I'll be making teh batch myself so no problems/
#648 [07:13] <Fives> Wait a second, why hasn't Mojang changed the alocated memory?
#649 [07:14] <DiskDaemon> Because Mojang doesn't control your computer's Java installation or settings
#650 [07:16] <Fives> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/645785-fixed-exe-for-out-of-memory-problems/ This show you how to hex edit the launcher, to change the ram allocation, can't Mojang ship it like this?
#651 [07:17] <DiskDaemon> That would be a bad idea
#652 [07:18] <Fives> To hex edit the launcher, or ship it with a lowe amount of ram allocated?
#653 [07:18] <DiskDaemon> both
#654 [07:19] <Fives> Could you elaborate?
#655 [07:20] <DiskDaemon> hex editing the launcher is an instant failure once the launcher gets updated, and shipping with a lower amount of memory completely fails when people use HD textures and/or lots of mods
#656 [07:23] <Fives> I can just re-edit the new launcher.
#657 [07:23] <Fives> And vanilla should be more supported.
#658 [07:24] <Fives> Maybe change it to 512.
#659 [07:24] <Fives> is that good enough for HD texture packs?
#660 [07:24] <DiskDaemon> Yes you could, but you may not notive, or more likely will just plainly forget. So your hex edit is still going to end up failing.
#661 [07:24] <DiskDaemon> There are better ways
#662 [07:26] <DiskDaemon> That performange optimisation guide has instructions for you on how to best set up the memory that is used for Minecraft
#663 [07:27] <Fives> Yes, that's how I found the hex edit guide.
#664 [07:28] <DiskDaemon> Just set up a batch file, to pass the appropriate memory instructions to Minecraft when it starts
#665 [07:28] <Fives> 384mb max, what about min?
#666 [07:28] <Fives> or 384mb min?
#667 [07:28] <DiskDaemon> iirc, the guide says to keep them the same
#668 [07:29] <Fives> Oh, seems odd but sure.
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#670 [07:33] <DiskDaemon> It prevents java from allocating-deallocating while performaing garbage collection, which all results in less performance for minecraft
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#673 [07:41] <Fives> How do I quote code?
#674 [07:41] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#675 [07:41] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#676 [07:46] * Smanly|Away is now known as Smanly
#677 [07:47] <Fives> Java uninstaller can't fin the installation package.
#678 [07:48] <DiskDaemon> Are you intending to completely uninstall Java from you computer?
#679 [07:48] <Fives> Yes.
#680 [07:48] <DiskDaemon> There's a JavaRa program that is a specialised tool for letting you achieve that
#681 [07:49] <Fives> Really? I specialized program to remove Java?
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#683 [07:49] <ytalorock> Olá
#684 [07:49] <ytalorock> Fiz A compra Do minecraft e ainda não recebir
#685 [07:49] <Fives> I can't just uninstall it normaly?
#686 [07:49] <Fives> Or with Revo Uninstaller.
#687 [07:49] <DiskDaemon> Fives: Most times you can, but as you are experiencing, sometimes there can be issues
#688 [07:50] <tyteen4a03> ??> Fives win/javara
#689 [07:50] <VoxelHead> Fives: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#690 [07:50] <VoxelHead> Fives: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#691 [07:50] <ytalorock> Eu não recebir a conta premium no minecrat
#692 [07:50] <tyteen4a03> ytalorock, please use english
#693 [07:50] <Fives> What's CTCP?
#694 [07:51] <DiskDaemon> Fives: It's a communication protocol
#695 [07:51] <ytalorock> I made a purchase and did not get minecraft
#696 [07:51] <DiskDaemon> ytalorock: From where did you purchase?
#697 [07:52] <ytalorock> In the Minecraft.net site/store
#698 [07:52] <DiskDaemon> With what did you purchase?
#699 [07:52] <ytalorock> Paypal
#700 [07:53] <Fives> "After a purchase, you will receive an email containing a redemption link for your game. However, some slower payment types, such as bank transfers, can take 3-5 business days." Did you get this email?
#701 [07:53] <DiskDaemon> ytalorock: What did paypal tell you about your attempt to purcase?
#702 [07:53] <Fives> Sorry, I'm confusing things.
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#705 [07:56] <Fives> I'm running on XP here, do I only use legacy JavaRa if the stable version doesn't work, or always legacy for XP?
#706 [07:56] <ytalorock> Hello I made the purchase minecraft at minecraft.net/store by paypal
#707 [07:57] <ytalorock> Hello I made the purchase minecraft at minecraft.net site / store by paypal
#708 [07:57] <ytalorock> Hello I made the purchase minecraft at minecraft.net site / store by paypal
#709 [07:57] <ytalorock> Hello I made the purchase minecraft at minecraft.net site / store by paypal
#710 [07:57] <ytalorock> Hello I made the purchase minecraft at minecraft.net site / store by paypal
#711 [07:57] <Fives> Don't spam!
#712 [07:57] <DiskDaemon> Fives: try the stable one first
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#715 [07:57] <ytalorock> Hello I made the purchase minecraft at minecraft.net site / store by paypal
#716 [07:58] <DiskDaemon> ytalorock: What did paypal tell you about your attempt to purchase?
#717 [07:58] <Fives> It says 'Legacy version: Windows 9k, Windows 2k, Windows XP. Vista/7 without UAC.'. You sure?
#718 [07:58] <DiskDaemon> Fives: That's the legacy one. I'd get the stable one instead
#719 [07:59] <ytalorock> Account ytalorock Order 572338fb52934a2395a4a660a1a4d306
#720 [07:59] <DiskDaemon> ytalorockL This is a public channel - do not post private information
#721 [08:00] <ytalorock> But I want my premium account already did purchase az 2 days
#722 [08:00] <DiskDaemon> ytalorock: What you posted was just an order nimber though, like a receipt, so your privacy is still safe
#723 [08:00] <Fives> DiskDaemon you should censor it.
#724 [08:00] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#725 [08:00] <DiskDaemon> Fives: Censoring after the fact cannot be done.
#726 [08:01] <DiskDaemon> ytalorock: If you feel that you need to, please contact customer support.
#727 [08:01] <ytalorock> DiskDaemon thank you
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#729 [08:01] <Bugboy1028> ytalorock, did you .......
#730 [08:01] <Bugboy1028> -.-
#731 [08:01] <Fives> You should have asked if they recieved the email.
#732 [08:01] <Bugboy1028> I thinks DiskDaemon DID, Fives
#733 [08:01] <Bugboy1028> also
#734 [08:01] <DiskDaemon> There's a lot of things that we should do It's 1am for me right now, so meh
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#736 [08:03] <Fives> No, the Mojang one.
#737 [08:03] <Fives> Not the paypal one.
#738 [08:04] <DiskDaemon> The Mojang one can take a bit of time to arrive, after processing has occurred. It will have arrived long before he gains a reply to contacting customer service
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#740 [08:04] <DiskDaemon> Also, wouldn't think that he would be here with his problem if he had received an email from Mojang
#741 [08:05] <Fives> They might not have checked.
#742 [08:05] <Bugboy1028> I'm worried
#743 [08:05] <DiskDaemon> You're right, people are stupid at times
#744 [08:05] <Bugboy1028> What if next Christmas will take LONG time to get customer support
#745 [08:06] <Fives> Do I need to remove the JDKs?
#746 [08:06] <Fives> They are still there after using JavaRa.
#747 [08:06] <DiskDaemon> It always does around xmas. But when 400,000 new accounts sign up on the one day, you're bound to have issues
#748 [08:06] <DiskDaemon> Fives: That all depends on if you intend to use them or not
#749 [08:07] <Fives> Well yes, but I'm re-installing Java to fix issues, do I need to worry about the JDKs?
#750 [08:08] <DiskDaemon> Fives: Get rid of them if you are not a developer
#751 [08:08] <Fives> I am learning Java.
#752 [08:08] <Fives> But should I re-install them too?
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#754 [08:08] <Fives> Or do they not matter?
#755 [08:08] <Boreeas> If you are learning Java, you need them, yes
#756 [08:08] <DiskDaemon> You can reinstall them if you find that you need them. You won't for most situations
#757 [08:09] <Boreeas> JDK is the Java Development Kit
#758 [08:09] <Fives> I know, I know. If I do remove them, I will install them (or just 7) again.
#759 [08:09] <Fives> But do I need to remove them when re-installing Java?
#760 [08:10] <Fives> Oh right, sorry DiskDaemon, didn't see the message.\
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#762 [08:10] <Fives> It can't find the installation package.
#763 [08:10] <Fives> Again.
#764 [08:11] <Fives> Should I just remove them with Revo Uninstaller?
#765 [08:12] <DiskDaemon> Fives: attempt to with revo, then remove them from revo, then use javara
#766 [08:13] <Fives> If I remove remove them with Revo, they will be gone from Revo and JavaRa doesn't see the JDKs.
#767 [08:13] <DiskDaemon> That seems to be what you're wanting
#768 [08:14] <Fives> Yes but 'attempt to with revo, then remove them from revo' seems redundant.
#769 [08:14] <DiskDaemon> Fives: Sometimes the revo attempt can fail, thus the followup
#770 [08:15] <Fives> You should say something like 'Remove with Revo, if it fails try again.'.
#771 [08:16] <Fives> What you said was slighly confusing.
#772 [08:17] <Fives> Smoe people say Java 6 is more stable with Minecraft but Java 7 is faster, what do you think?
#773 [08:17] <DiskDaemon> I'm slightly confused, due to as I said before it being after 1am now
#774 [08:17] <DiskDaemon> Go with 7
#775 [08:19] <Fives> I understand, just pointing it out. You should probably got to sleep.
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#777 [08:21] <SF> Is here any way to change minecraft name...?
#778 [08:22] <DiskDaemon> SF: Yes - by purchasing another account.
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#780 [08:23] <DiskDaemon> That helps to prevent issues where people banned on certain servers try to get around the ban
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#782 [08:23] <Fives> I have the current Java 7 installer, there's not need re-downloading it is there?
#783 [08:23] <DiskDaemon> no
#784 [08:24] <Fives> Wait are there smaller updates in between for example 7u17 and 7u16?
#785 [08:24] <DiskDaemon> yes
#786 [08:25] <Fives> So I may not have the most up to date installer, how do I find out?
#787 [08:25] <DiskDaemon> Go to java.com
#788 [08:26] <Fives> That verification app only checks what Java you currenly have insalled.
#789 [08:26] <Fives> I want to know what spevific version my installer is.
#790 [08:26] <DiskDaemon> The download section has that info
#791 [08:27] <Fives> Only to the nearest update (17).
#792 [08:27] <DiskDaemon> Isn't that what you were looking for?
#793 [08:28] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, a misunderstanding has occurred. I thought that the smaller updates meant the 16/17 ones. But you were asking about ones inbetween those
#794 [08:28] <DiskDaemon> No, there are no other ones between those
#795 [08:28] <Fives> Ok, thanks.
#796 [08:29] <Fives> Go to sleep.
#797 [08:29] <DiskDaemon> I'm watching through some video clips - I'll be good for a while
#798 [08:30] <Fives> It's up to you, but you COULD watch them tomorow morning.
#799 [08:30] <DiskDaemon> I could, but I normally get up at 8am
#800 [08:31] <Fives> That's like, less than 7 hours sleep, probablt not so good.
#801 [08:32] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#802 [08:32] <Fives> What's wrong with watching the clips at 8am?
#803 [08:33] <DiskDaemon> Because I'm doing it now
#804 [08:33] <Fives> Ok, ok.
#805 [08:33] <Fives> Ahh, I'm being kind of a hypocryte. I could do this stuff tomorow morning too.
#806 [08:34] <DiskDaemon> Australia?
#807 [08:35] <Fives> It's not 1am.
#808 [08:35] <DiskDaemon> Melbourne I suppose - everyone comes from there.
#809 [08:35] <Fives> Everyone?
#810 [08:36] <DiskDaemon> That's how it seems
#811 [08:36] <Fives> Upon running this batch code 'start javaw -Xmx256M -server -Xbash -Djava.library.path=bin/natives -cp bin/minecraft.jar;bin/jinput.jar;bin/lwjgl.jar;bin/lwjgl_util.jar net.minecraft.client.Minecraft username password'.
#812 [08:36] <Fives> I get this error:
#813 [08:36] <Fives> Error window: 'Java Virtual Machine Launcher' with "Error: missing 'server' JVM at 'C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\server\jvm.dll'. Please install or use the JRE or JDK that contains these missing components."
#814 [08:36] <Fives> Yes I did replace the username and password.
#815 [08:36] <Fives> And I checked, there is no server folder there.
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#817 [08:38] <Fives> And changed the 256 to 384.
#818 [08:38] <Fives> I guess I should come back tomorow morning.
#819 [08:39] <DiskDaemon> Is that command line following the instructions from the minecraft optimisation guide?
#820 [08:39] <Fives> Yes.
#821 [08:39] <Fives> You don
#822 [08:39] <Fives> oops
#823 [08:39] <Fives> You don't have to worry about it, I'll look into it tomorow. But one thing I go need to know.
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#825 [08:40] <DiskDaemon> well you can remove the -server part of things
#826 [08:40] <Fives> Programs that come in zipa like JavaRa, I usuallt put them in Program Files then make start folders for them, is that bad practice?
#827 [08:40] <Fives> *zips
#828 [08:41] <DiskDaemon> The JDK seems to be required for the server part
#829 [08:41] <DiskDaemon> Fives: No, that's not a bad practice
#830 [08:41] <Fives> Is there abetter way or am I fine?
#831 [08:42] <DiskDaemon> If it's a temporary program that you don't intend to keep around for long, then just using a temporary folder can be a better way
#832 [08:42] <Fives> I'll keep it just in case.
#833 [08:53] <Fives> By temporary do you mean the temp folder or just somewhere aside so you can delete later?
#834 [08:54] <DiskDaemon> the latter
#835 [09:06] <Fives> "Possibly - Set javaw.exe priority to high." - Minecraft Speed/Optimisation Guide. Just sayin'.
#836 [09:08] <Fives> Need to sleep, you should too. Bye.
#837 [09:09] <tyteen4a03> Fives, "Use your own judgement." - Common Sense. Just sayin'
#838 [09:10] <DiskDaemon> Ahh good, that's better at least than mucking around trying different variations of those settings
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#846 [09:49] <MASONMINED> JAVA SE7 U PLUGIN GETTING MESSAGE HAS SECURITY VUNERABILITIES. WHAT DO I DO
#847 [09:50] <Necrodoom> so much caps
#848 [09:50] <Necrodoom> now, please say it again, but in english
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#851 [09:54] <Vaca_Louca456> I can not get into my game
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#853 [09:55] <Vaca_Louca456> can someone help in Portuguese?
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#856 [10:05] <Moose> ?? downgrade
#857 [10:05] <Moose> ?? downgrade/1.4.7
#858 [10:05] <VoxelHead> downgrade/1.4.7: To downgrade minecraft to version 1.4.7, first download this file: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_7/minecraft.jar
#859 [10:05] <VoxelHead> downgrade/1.4.7: Once you have downloaded it, move it to the bin folder and overwrite the existing file there. (To find the bin folder, see win/.minecraft, mac/.minecraft, or linux/.minecraft)
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#875 [10:38] <willem26072002> Minecraft keeps crashing. I can open the app and when it starts loading it crashes. It happened after my son tried to change his appearance (don't know what he did). Now it keeps crashing and he can't play anymore...
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#878 [10:38] <Elwuira> When does the update come?
#879 [10:38] <tyteen4a03> willem26072002, you mean texture packs?
#880 [10:38] <tyteen4a03> Elwuira, what update?
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#882 [10:39] <Elwuira> They said there would came an update this week so i can play minecraft
#883 [10:39] <Elwuira> Because my computor is too old to play until the new update comes
#884 [10:39] <tyteen4a03> Elwuira, probably not this week, unless you got this news from Mojang
#885 [10:40] <Elwuira> No, i gotted it from here
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#887 [10:40] <willem26072002> I'm sorry he doesn't know. He tried to change his avatar? We're Dutch and he doesn't understand English.
#888 [10:40] <Necrodoom> Elwuira: you use mac?
#889 [10:40] <tyteen4a03> Necrodoom, CTCP VERSION works on webchat
#890 [10:40] <Elwuira> Yes
#891 [10:40] <tyteen4a03> ??> willem26072002 mac/10.5/mc1.5
#892 [10:40] <VoxelHead> willem26072002: (mac/10.5/mc1.5) Minecraft 1.5 currently does not work with Mac OSX Version 10.5 or lower. This is a known bug and will be fixed soon.
#893 [10:40] <VoxelHead> willem26072002: (mac/10.5/mc1.5) In the meantime, you have 3 options: 1. Upgrade to Mac OSX 10.7 or later (Mac OSX 10.6 has problems), 2. Downgrade to 1.4.7 (See ?? downgrade/1.4.7), or 3. Wait for 1.5.1 to come out
#894 [10:40] <Necrodoom> tyteen4a03: wrong guy
#895 [10:41] <tyteen4a03> Necrodoom, actually both on 10.5
#896 [10:41] <Necrodoom> ah
#897 [10:41] <tyteen4a03> Elwuira, are you on 1.4.7 or 1.5?
#898 [10:41] <Elwuira> 1.4
#899 [10:41] <Elwuira> 1.5 i ment
#900 [10:41] <willem26072002> So a downgrade shoud fix the problem? Where can I get it this 1.4.7 version?
#901 [10:41] <tyteen4a03> ??> willem26072002 mac/10.5/mc1.5
#902 [10:41] <VoxelHead> willem26072002: (mac/10.5/mc1.5) Minecraft 1.5 currently does not work with Mac OSX Version 10.5 or lower. This is a known bug and will be fixed soon.
#903 [10:41] <VoxelHead> willem26072002: (mac/10.5/mc1.5) In the meantime, you have 3 options: 1. Upgrade to Mac OSX 10.7 or later (Mac OSX 10.6 has problems), 2. Downgrade to 1.4.7 (See ?? downgrade/1.4.7), or 3. Wait for 1.5.1 to come out
#904 [10:41] <tyteen4a03> willem26072002, correct
#905 [10:41] <tyteen4a03> ??> willem26072002 downgrade/1.4.7
#906 [10:41] <VoxelHead> willem26072002: (downgrade/1.4.7) To downgrade minecraft to version 1.4.7, first download this file: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_7/minecraft.jar
#907 [10:41] <VoxelHead> willem26072002: (downgrade/1.4.7) Once you have downloaded it, move it to the bin folder and overwrite the existing file there. (To find the bin folder, see win/.minecraft, mac/.minecraft, or linux/.minecraft)
#908 [10:42] <Elwuira> So, the newest update probably comes next week?
#909 [10:42] <Elwuira> Btw, are there any swedish chat?
#910 [10:43] <tyteen4a03> Elwuira, 1.5.1 is currently a pre-release, which means it should come out pretty soon
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#912 [10:46] <willem26072002> thanks it worked! dankjewel!!!!! willem. -:)
#913 [10:46] <tyteen4a03> willem26072002, no problem
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#923 [11:06] <Mickey> I downloaded the latest Minecraft installer, and after I login and go to run the installation, it tells me I have bad video car drivers even though I just updated them to the latest.
#924 [11:07] <Mickey> I checked to see if I could run it using systemrequirementslab.com, and it said the only problem that I had was that I am running Windows 8. Any idea what's going on?
#925 [11:11] <ofna01> Update your drivers again
#926 [11:11] <ofna01> Might be a bad install
#927 [11:14] <tyteen4a03> ??> Mickey win/dxdiag/bat
#928 [11:14] <VoxelHead> Mickey: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#929 [11:14] <VoxelHead> Mickey: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#930 [11:17] <Mickey> http://pastebin.com/7vHXY9mP
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#932 [11:23] <Mickey> Also, I'm not sure if it helps, but the error that the Minecraft installer gave me said that it couldn't find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
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#938 [11:33] <nikki> i cant log in. last time i played yes over a year ago, but i wanna play again, but i cant remember my password, and im not sure if it is the right email i use, can u help me please?
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#941 [11:36] <ofna01> Nikki, you need to figure out your email
#942 [11:37] <nikki> okay, and when i have done that
#943 [11:39] <nikki> ?
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#948 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> ofna01, lenovo invalid...
#949 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> I wonder
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#953 [12:05] <nikki> i cant log in to minecraft last time i played was over a year ago, but i remember my email but not my password, have do i log in?
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#955 [12:07] <MonthOLDpickle> Hi
#956 [12:08] <MonthOLDpickle> I am in the textures channel but no one is there, where can I find the diamonds (not the block or raw ore) in texture packs to edit?
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#970 [12:20] <TimDaGreatOne> I bought minecraft through mojang can it work on an android os
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#973 [12:26] <Calinou> TimDaGreatOne: not with a minecraft-for-PC account
#974 [12:26] <Calinou> you buy the minecraft app on google play
#975 [12:26] <Calinou> then you play it
#976 [12:26] <Calinou> simple as that :P
#977 [12:29] <TimDaGreatOne> how can I get my money back from mojang which I purchased minecraft
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#979 [12:32] <Necrodoom> not sure thats possible
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#982 [12:40] <sp> bought the game for my son and we are having a hard time getting it to work...super super slow what should we do
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#987 [12:49] <rymate1234> sp, what do you mean?
#988 [12:50] <sp> when he uses the mouse to move in the game it is super slow
#989 [12:52] <sp> not much of a technical person just was wondering if there was anything we could try so he could play it on the computer and it didn't freeze up
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#993 [12:56] <Xtreme> can i have help
#994 [12:57] <Xtreme> 21.03 01:46:50 [Server] SEVERE net.minecraft.server.v1_5_R1.ReportedException: Ticking entity
#995 [13:00] <Xtreme> HDLP
#996 [13:00] <Xtreme> HELP
#997 [13:00] <Xtreme> HELO
#998 [13:00] <Xtreme> HELP
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#1001 [13:00] <Xtreme> Plz help
#1002 [13:00] <rymate1234> ?? ask
#1003 [13:00] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1004 [13:00] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1007 [13:03] <rymate1234> uh eXeC64
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#1009 [13:03] <rymate1234> meh
#1010 [13:03] <rymate1234> uh
#1011 [13:03] <rymate1234> Xtreme,
#1012 [13:03] <rymate1234> if you want help
#1013 [13:03] <Xtreme> yes
#1014 [13:03] <rymate1234> ask the question
#1015 [13:03] <Xtreme> Ok
#1016 [13:03] <Xtreme> first
#1017 [13:04] <Xtreme> i say
#1018 [13:04] <Xtreme> I need help
#1019 [13:04] <rymate1234> we can do many things
#1020 [13:04] <Xtreme> My server keeps crashing
#1021 [13:04] <rymate1234> mind reading isn't one of them
#1022 [13:04] <Xtreme> and timing out
#1023 [13:04] <rymate1234> right
#1024 [13:04] <rymate1234> well can you give us as much detail of it as you can
#1025 [13:04] <rymate1234> maybe paste some errors into a pastebin
#1026 [13:04] <rymate1234> ?? pastebin
#1027 [13:04] <Xtreme> Its coming with tick entity messages in console
#1028 [13:04] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1029 [13:04] <Xtreme> 21.03 01:46:50 [Server] SEVERE net.minecraft.server.v1_5_R1.ReportedException: Ticking entity
#1030 [13:04] <Gone_Ralex> he is using bukkit
#1031 [13:04] <Xtreme> Ok
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#1033 [13:05] <Xtreme> I'll post it in a sec
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#1035 [13:05] <rymate1234> Gone_Ralex, and?
#1036 [13:06] <Gone_Ralex> rymate1234, tis a mod for all purposes :P
#1037 [13:06] <Gone_Ralex> and probably a plugin he used broke it
#1038 [13:06] <rymate1234> well I can still help him :P
#1039 [13:06] <Gone_Ralex> actually, i know it did
#1040 [13:06] <Gone_Ralex> plugin dev decided editing entities async was a good idea (it is not)
#1041 [13:07] <Xtreme> Wait first i will post my plugins
#1042 [13:07] <Xtreme> https://mcservers.org/detail/play.colourcraft.net Go on this and click features it will list my plugins and my craftbukkit
#1043 [13:08] <Gone_Ralex> queries can lie or not show it all
#1044 [13:08] <Xtreme> Ohh
#1045 [13:08] <Gone_Ralex> ./version and /pl
#1046 [13:08] <Xtreme> ok i will list
#1047 [13:08] <Gone_Ralex> via console
#1048 [13:09] <sp> any ideas besides the ones listed on minecraft help to get the game to work faster
#1049 [13:09] <Xtreme> http://mibpaste.com/dxAVxq
#1050 [13:09] <Gone_Ralex> sp, while playing, can you press F3, and look at the "FPS" number?
#1051 [13:09] <sp> yes i did that and it was between 7 and 9 what does that mean
#1052 [13:10] <Xtreme> Wow your laggy
#1053 [13:10] <Gone_Ralex> sp, are you on windows?
#1054 [13:10] <sp> yes
#1055 [13:10] <Xtreme> Whats your render distance
#1056 [13:10] <Gone_Ralex> ??> sp win/dxdiag/bat
#1057 [13:10] <VoxelHead> sp: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1058 [13:10] <VoxelHead> sp: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1059 [13:11] <Xtreme> Im going to do that aswell since i am experiencing Lagg
#1060 [13:11] <Xtreme> aswell
#1061 [13:11] <rymate1234> dxdiag?
#1062 [13:11] <Gone_Ralex> Xtreme, can you post the server.log
#1063 [13:11] <sp> ok i will try and do that thanks
#1064 [13:11] <Xtreme> its 124 mb
#1065 [13:11] <Xtreme> :L
#1066 [13:11] <Gone_Ralex> Xtreme, stop server, rename it to server.log.old, then start server
#1067 [13:11] <Xtreme> wait
#1068 [13:12] <Xtreme> ok
#1069 [13:12] <Gone_Ralex> good to always cycle that log anyways
#1070 [13:12] <Gone_Ralex> (bukkit can do that for you actually)
#1071 [13:12] <Xtreme> first i want to show my DxDiag
#1072 [13:12] <Gone_Ralex> Xtreme, you don't need to
#1073 [13:12] <rymate1234> dxdiag won't help us
#1074 [13:12] <Xtreme> why because my fps is like 10
#1075 [13:12] <Xtreme> i have 2 problems
#1076 [13:12] <Xtreme> lol
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#1078 [13:12] <Xtreme> http://mibpaste.com/2J7Xmy
#1079 [13:12] <Gone_Ralex> Xtreme, let's focus on one issue at a time
#1080 [13:12] <Xtreme> ok
#1081 [13:13] <Gone_Ralex> intel gpu
#1082 [13:13] <Gone_Ralex> they are not fast
#1083 [13:13] <Gone_Ralex> actually they really are not good at all with minecraft
#1084 [13:15] <rymate1234> Xtreme, 10?
#1085 [13:15] <rymate1234> I thought 25 was bad :o
#1086 [13:15] <Xtreme> lol
#1087 [13:15] * Gone_Ralex plays with 10 on "fpses"
#1087 [13:15] <Gone_Ralex> well, it is not really a fps, but still
#1088 [13:15] * Xtreme is using filezilla atm
#1088 [13:15] <rymate1234> filezilla is best ftp
#1089 [13:16] <Xtreme> i know thats why im using it
#1090 [13:16] <Xtreme> i pay 120 dollars a month for my server and i dont want a needle in it
#1091 [13:16] * Gone_Ralex uses cli >_> <_< >_>
#1091 [13:16] <Xtreme> is that Dinnerbone
#1092 [13:16] <Xtreme> real?
#1093 [13:16] <rymate1234> yes
#1094 [13:16] <Xtreme> wow
#1095 [13:16] <rymate1234> he doesn't really do much though
#1096 [13:16] <rymate1234> apart from lurk
#1097 [13:17] <ShaRose> also try and refrain from pinging him
#1098 [13:17] <ShaRose> he gets enough random pings as it is
#1099 [13:17] <Gone_Ralex> i'd say 75% of most channel users lurk :P
#1100 [13:17] <ShaRose> it's true
#1101 [13:17] <Xtreme> and is VoxelHead the creator of VoxelBox
#1102 [13:17] <Gone_Ralex> no
#1103 [13:17] <Gone_Ralex> Voxelhead is a bot
#1104 [13:17] <Xtreme> oh ok
#1105 [13:17] <Gone_Ralex> ?? bot
#1106 [13:17] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#1107 [13:17] <Xtreme> hi voxel
#1108 [13:17] <Xtreme> ?? cheese
#1109 [13:17] <Xtreme> aw
#1110 [13:18] <Xtreme> ?? index
#1111 [13:18] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries. See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/faqdatabase for the full database, with definitions and text.
#1112 [13:18] <VoxelHead> index: Syfaro has made a more user-friendly interface for accessing entries here: http://lwjgl.syfaro.net/faq.html
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#1114 [13:18] <Xtreme> ?? mc.net/usernamelookup
#1115 [13:18] <VoxelHead> mc.net/usernamelookup: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#1116 [13:18] <Xtreme> lol sick
#1117 [13:18] <Xtreme> anyway
#1118 [13:18] <Xtreme> lets not get off topic
#1119 [13:19] <ShaRose> yes
#1120 [13:19] <ShaRose> back to reading manga
#1121 [13:21] <Xtreme> gone_ralex
#1122 [13:22] <Xtreme> http://pastebin.com/Tt3dLF3v
#1123 [13:22] <Xtreme> ^ here is my crash
#1124 [13:22] <Gone_Ralex> definitely a plugin
#1125 [13:22] <Xtreme> ?? gpu/intel
#1126 [13:22] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1127 [13:23] <Xtreme> ok want to see my plugins again
#1128 [13:23] <Xtreme> -__
#1129 [13:23] <Xtreme> -__-
#1130 [13:23] * Gone_Ralex just scrolls up for it
#1130 [13:23] <Xtreme> lol
#1131 [13:23] <Xtreme> i'll wait
#1132 [13:25] <Gone_Ralex> Xtreme, do /version
#1133 [13:26] <Xtreme> ok
#1134 [13:26] <Xtreme> INFO This server is running CraftBukkit version git-Bukkit-1.4.7-R1.0-29-ge46c007-b2660jnks (MC: 1.5) (Implementing API version 1.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT)
#1135 [13:27] <Gone_Ralex> you are behind on dev builds btw, and some plugins you have i would not recommend using 1.5 with
#1136 [13:27] <Xtreme> lol
#1137 [13:27] <Xtreme> which plugins
#1138 [13:27] <Gone_Ralex> BKCommonLib for example and plugins that hook into it
#1139 [13:28] <Xtreme> oh
#1140 [13:28] <Xtreme> ok
#1141 [13:28] <Xtreme> why is my hostname
#1142 [13:28] <Xtreme> gay
#1143 [13:29] <Gone_Ralex> DisguiseCraft is one that could cause it
#1144 [13:29] <Xtreme> oh yes
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#1146 [13:29] <Xtreme> ahaa i think i found the problem
#1147 [13:29] <Xtreme> BkCommonLib was a snapshot
#1148 [13:29] <Xtreme> LOL
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#1157 [13:42] <Tiny_Dancer> My minecraft works until I open a world or a server, and then it crashes
#1158 [13:43] <Tiny_Dancer> how do i fix it?
#1159 [13:43] <Tiny_Dancer> I have the error report
#1160 [13:44] <Tiny_Dancer> o-o
#1161 [13:44] <Tiny_Dancer> i downloaded world edit before...
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#1164 [13:44] <Tiny_Dancer> but i cant figure out how to unstall the mod
#1165 [13:45] <Tiny_Dancer> can anyone help?
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#1167 [13:45] <Calinou> ?? forceupdate
#1168 [13:45] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1169 [13:45] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1170 [13:45] <Calinou> this is how you install mods
#1171 [13:45] <Calinou> uninstall*
#1172 [13:45] <Tiny_Dancer> okay
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#1174 [13:45] <Tiny_Dancer> thank you
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#1177 [13:46] <Calinou> no problem
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#1181 [13:55] <urdumb2> I got a problem trying to connect to the map
#1182 [13:56] <urdumb2> its struggling to connect to the map on single player
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#1184 [13:58] <urdumb2> when i click on the desired map, it freezes and logs me out of the map
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#1186 [13:59] <urdumb2> any advice
#1187 [14:00] <Jesper> Hi I cant start minecraft on my mac - it shows the java plugin and then it quits..
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#1192 [14:14] <DeLord> where can I get minecraft.jar 1.4.7 client ?
#1193 [14:16] <benhunter09> ??> DeLord downgrade/1.4.7
#1194 [14:16] <VoxelHead> DeLord: (downgrade/1.4.7) To downgrade minecraft to version 1.4.7, first download this file: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_7/minecraft.jar
#1195 [14:16] <VoxelHead> DeLord: (downgrade/1.4.7) Once you have downloaded it, move it to the bin folder and overwrite the existing file there. (To find the bin folder, see win/.minecraft, mac/.minecraft, or linux/.minecraft)
#1196 [14:16] <vaati_000> when i start up minecraft and enter a world, all the colors are screwed up. everything is shaded in red with a kind of blue duplicate version of it off to the left.
#1197 [14:17] <vaati_000> i've tried reinstalling both minecraft and java with no success.
#1198 [14:18] <vaati_000> the item bar and inventory are both normal however.
#1199 [14:19] <DeLord> thanks benhunter09 !
#1200 [14:20] <benhunter09> vaati_000: has it worked before?
#1201 [14:20] <vaati_000> the game was working fine until last night.
#1202 [14:20] <Lord_Ralex> vaati_000, go to Options
#1203 [14:20] <Lord_Ralex> and make sure the 3D is off
#1204 [14:21] <vaati_000> ah. that fixed it. thank you Lord_Ralex
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#1208 [14:27] <Mickey> Hello. I was on here earlier today but I had to leave unexpectedly, so I need a bit of help.
#1209 [14:28] <Mickey> I downloaded the installer, logged in and went to run the game, but it gave me an error saying I had bad video drivers. I reinstalled the most recent drivers twice, and ran (win/dxdiag/bat). You can find it here: http://pastebin.com/7vHXY9mP
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#1211 [14:29] <Mickey> Any idea why it would tell me 'Minecraft is unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode'?
#1212 [14:30] <DeLord> Mickey: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/264048-guide-fixing-opengl-error/
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#1219 [14:33] <gigatest> Hello
#1220 [14:33] <VieChoWoo> Hi, it is first time I try to run minecraft on windows box. Java is installed and the machine has been reboot. But when I run the program and type user name and pass, the box just turn black and stay black
#1221 [14:33] <gigatest> I purchased gift code to my son, but can
#1222 [14:33] <gigatest> çan't download the game neither to logg in
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#1224 [14:33] <DeLord> VieChoWoo: please try this http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
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#1226 [14:34] <gigatest> how can i/he install the game and log in to plaY
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#1229 [14:34] <gigatest> he received a link in from the gift e-mail and now this link doesn't work anymore
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#1231 [14:35] <Tedster> Hai.
#1232 [14:35] <Tedster> !check 83.104.178.148
#1233 [14:35] <Tedster> !paid Ted1246
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#1235 [14:36] <VieChoWoo> Thanks I will try
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#1247 [14:55] <Mickey> So I've been trying to get the launcher to work, but updating Java, my video drivers, and performing all the steps here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/264048-guide-fixing-opengl-error/ haven't worked.
#1248 [14:56] <Mickey> I'm starting to think my problem is coming from my computer having Windows 8. Have there been any confirmed problems with running Minecraft on Windows 8?
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#1250 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> Mickey, you're on a lenovo laptop which has a model name called INVALID
#1251 [15:00] <Mickey> Meaning?
#1252 [15:01] <tyteen4a03> Mickey, something is very wrong with your laptop in general
#1253 [15:01] <Mickey> haha neat. Thanks. I'll try and figure out what to do about that.
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#1259 [15:23] <VieChoWoo> Hi, I got empty blackbox after loggin, I am new in minecraft and I am using a windows machine, I have just be ask to try to update LWJGL, and replace some for file for the jar folder and some in native folder, reboot the machine. But I am still have this issue
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#1264 [15:27] <patrick> my minecraft loads up and then when i sign in the screen goes black and dosent load
#1265 [15:27] <patrick> so i cannot access singleplayer or multiplayer
#1266 [15:28] <ofna01> PAtrick, OS ?
#1267 [15:28] <patrick> yes
#1268 [15:28] <ofna01> OS?
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#1270 [15:28] <mib_wod4gg> http://www.fanteamz.com/bloodstock/cc/9/97
#1271 [15:28] <patrick> whats os
#1272 [15:28] <ofna01> What is your operating system?
#1273 [15:29] <ofna01> Mib, I don't think this is the place for that
#1274 [15:29] <patrick> i have a sony vaio
#1275 [15:29] <ofna01> Does that run windows or mac?
#1276 [15:29] <patrick> windows
#1277 [15:29] <patrick> it used to work perfectly
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#1280 [15:33] <stickypixel> Hello everyone.
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#1283 [15:35] <VieChoWoo> I have the same issue as Patrick, and I am running win 7
#1284 [15:36] <VieChoWoo> I have tried - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL - Update LightWeight Java Game Library
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#1291 [15:47] <AskingAlexandra> how do i install minecraft onto puppy linux 5.2.8? i have downloaded the jar file, now what?
#1292 [15:48] <Sy|afk> AskingAlexandra: do you have java?
#1293 [15:48] * Sy|afk is now known as Syfaro
#1294 [15:48] <AskingAlexandra> yes version 1.6
#1295 [15:48] <AskingAlexandra> and high graphics
#1296 [15:48] <Syfaro> then run java -jar minecraft.jar from command line in the directory where you downloaded the jar
#1297 [15:49] <AskingAlexandra> is that it?
#1298 [15:49] <Syfaro> if you've got all the graphics drivers and stuff, yeah
#1299 [15:49] <Syfaro> I also suggest updating lwjgl to fix the stuck keys bug
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#1301 [15:49] <AskingAlexandra> awesome! thank you so much!
#1302 [15:50] <adh01> Can't login to Minecraft.
#1303 [15:50] <Syfaro> adh01: have you been able to before?
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#1305 [15:51] <adh01> yes. just started happening. the password does not work anymore.
#1306 [15:51] <Syfaro> adh01: can you log in at http://accounts.mojang.com ?
#1307 [15:52] <adh01> haven't set up an account there. I have an old Minecraft account.
#1308 [15:52] <Syfaro> well then, what about minecraft.net?
#1309 [15:54] <adh01> no neither of those work either. I tried sending a new password to the email account attached to the old account but that email account is not active anymore
#1310 [15:54] <Syfaro> what error exactly?
#1311 [15:54] <adh01> login failed
#1312 [15:54] <Syfaro> even on the site?
#1313 [15:55] <adh01> ops, unknown username or password. If you are logging in with a Mojang account make sure to use your e-mail address as username
#1314 [15:56] <Syfaro> well then, you're out of luck :/
#1315 [15:56] <Syfaro> if you don't have the account email, that probably means that you don't have the transaction ID. without that, you can't get your account back.
#1316 [15:57] <adh01> OK thanks for your help
#1317 [15:57] <Lord_Ralex> you can usually get the trans id without the email
#1318 [15:58] <Syfaro> Lord_Ralex: from where?
#1319 [15:58] <Lord_Ralex> moneybrookers and paypal keep those
#1320 [15:58] <Lord_Ralex> you can contact them and try to get it from them
#1321 [15:58] <Syfaro> really? I though that the people doing the transaction didn't get Mojang's transaction ID
#1322 [15:58] <Lord_Ralex> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#1323 [15:58] <Syfaro> oh
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#1332 [16:07] <Bleedingsnow> Yo
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#1334 [16:08] <Bleedingsnow> Im having difficulties with my LAN server with my mac
#1335 [16:08] <Bleedingsnow> I cant seem to connect to my buddy and he cant seem to connect with me
#1336 [16:08] <Bleedingsnow> I am the one hosting. He is on a pc as well
#1337 [16:08] <Bleedingsnow> anyone who can help a brother out?
#1338 [16:09] <AskingAlexandra> ok I have minecraft opening and then playing for more than about 30 seconds before the screen disappears and I have to restart the game at the command prompt? What am I doing wrong?
#1339 [16:09] <Syfaro> Bleedingsnow: you are on the same WiFi connection, correct?
#1340 [16:09] <Syfaro> AskingAlexandra: are there any errors?
#1341 [16:09] <AskingAlexandra> it just blinks off.
#1342 [16:09] <Bleedingsnow> Correct
#1343 [16:10] <AskingAlexandra> it does not list any---just a blinking command prompt
#1344 [16:10] <AskingAlexandra> it is as if I am closing the game, but I am not
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#1346 [16:11] <Bleedingsnow> Ive read through most of the stuff I can find on the subject online, Syfaro. But I have gotten it into my head that it must be a simple solution, considering my brother has turned port forwarding on and my firewall is off
#1347 [16:12] <Syfaro> Bleedingsnow: if you're on the same WiFi, you don't need to port forward. are you trying to use auto discover (or whatever it's called) or direct connect?
#1348 [16:13] <Bleedingsnow> Weve attempted both. On auto-discover he cant find me, and on direct-connect it says something in the line of: refused to connect
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#1350 [16:19] <FLHerne> Bleedingsnow: Do you have a 'localhost' line in /etc/hosts? (perhaps a better question would be 'Does OSX have a /etc/hosts file'...)
#1351 [16:19] <FLHerne> I had the same problem on Linux, fixed it by adding one :P
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#1353 [16:20] <Bleedingsnow> hmm good question. give me a minute to figure it out, because im not entirely sure what you are referring to
#1354 [16:20] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne, first I would check is antivirus
#1355 [16:20] <tyteen4a03> and firewall
#1356 [16:20] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: I might, if I knew anything about OSX antivirus, if it existss
#1357 [16:21] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne, it does
#1358 [16:21] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne, and we don't know anything about the other PC
#1359 [16:21] <FLHerne> I still don't know anything about it :P
#1360 [16:21] <Bleedingsnow> considering my firewall is off, how can this affect my client-hosting abilities?
#1361 [16:21] * FLHerne gave up using OSX quite some time ago
#1361 [16:22] <tyteen4a03> Bleedingsnow, firewalls (and sometimes antivirus too) needs to be off on both sides
#1362 [16:22] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: I know fiddling with /etc/hosts solved my problem on Linux, no idea if that applies to OSX at all though :P
#1363 [16:22] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne, it would be much further down the line, especially if it's not related to login
#1364 [16:22] <AskingAlexandra> My minecraft game just keeps blinking off.........i have it up,running,and playing, but after i start playing, after about 45 seconds....it just blinks off. can anyone help?
#1365 [16:23] <Bleedingsnow> I have turned my router firewall off, and my OSX firewall as well. The firewall on the other end (a PC) is off too
#1366 [16:23] <tyteen4a03> AskingAlexandra, you're on Linux... which distro are you on?
#1367 [16:24] <tyteen4a03> Bleedingsnow, does either end have these software installed? ZoneAlarm, Norton, Tunngle, Hamachi, AVG
#1368 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Bleedingsnow - Try downloading the dedicated server binary from www.minecraft.net/download. Run it in its own folder, then have your friend connect with your local ip.
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#1371 [16:24] <tyteen4a03> both as a testing method and a solution
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#1373 [16:24] * tyteen4a03 applauses
#1373 [16:25] * GreyVulpine applesauces
#1373 [16:25] <AskingAlexandra> i have puppy 5.2.8....java 1.6...the thing is, it just goes right back to the command prompt...
#1374 [16:25] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, D:
#1375 [16:25] <Bleedingsnow> The other end has hamachi and AVG.
#1376 [16:25] <Bleedingsnow> Ill give it a shot greyv
#1377 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. hamachi?
#1378 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Are you two in the same house?
#1379 [16:26] <tyteen4a03> Bleedingsnow, uninstall Hamachi
#1380 [16:26] <Bleedingsnow> yup in the same room
#1381 [16:26] <tyteen4a03> ??> Bleedingsnow fubar/hamachi
#1382 [16:26] <VoxelHead> Bleedingsnow: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on an IANA-allocated IP space (25.0.0.0/8). As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. Concordantly, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1383 [16:26] <VoxelHead> Bleedingsnow: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1384 [16:26] <tyteen4a03> (unrelated but friendly notice)
#1385 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Meh, if this doesn't work, I'd recommend getting rid of hamachi
#1386 [16:27] * tyteen4a03 continues hiding
#1386 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Horrid piece of software.
#1387 [16:27] <Bleedingsnow> We dont use hamachi... the guy asked if anyone had it installed
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#1389 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, yeah. Try the dedicated server first.
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#1391 [16:27] <FLHerne> Bleedingsnow: It gets hated anyway. Hamachi is disgusting :P
#1392 [16:27] <rymate1234> hamachi is bad
#1393 [16:27] <Bleedingsnow> I understand if this might interfere, i tell the dude to uninstall it
#1394 [16:28] <Bleedingsnow> but in what way might that fix the connecting-problems?
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#1396 [16:29] <AskingAlexandra> ok...i have minecraft up and running...but after about 45 seconds of play...it just blinks off...like i have turned it off, but i have not. can any one help me?
#1397 [16:29] <tyteen4a03> AskingAlexandra, the IRC channel did not explode and get replaced with a new one while you were away
#1398 [16:30] <tyteen4a03> AskingAlexandra, as for your issue, unfortunately I'm not familiar with your distro, so I will suggest updating graphics driver first
#1399 [16:30] <AskingAlexandra> away?
#1400 [16:30] <AskingAlexandra> ok
#1401 [16:30] <tyteen4a03> AskingAlexandra, yes, during the short period when you closed and reopened the IRC client
#1402 [16:30] <tyteen4a03> AskingAlexandra, did it stop working just after you upgraded to 1.5?
#1403 [16:31] <AskingAlexandra> i am on puppy linux 5.2.8...so no i have not upgraded anything
#1404 [16:31] <Bleedingsnow> frigg it. thanks for the help guys, Ill have a crack at it another day. Really appreciate the effort :)
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#1407 [16:32] <tyteen4a03> AskingAlexandra, no, Minecraft version
#1408 [16:33] <AskingAlexandra> i have not updated it at all.....i just got it.....and i dont know what to do.
#1409 [16:33] <Boy_child> I paid for and downloaded minecraft yesterday for my son. Upon trying to open it, I keep getting a "minecraft crashed" message. I have no clue what's up. Can anyone please help?
#1410 [16:34] <Boy_child> i have Mac OS X 10.5.8
#1411 [16:34] <FLHerne> Boy_child: Do you have Minecraft 1.5?
#1412 [16:34] <tyteen4a03> ??> Boy_child mac/10.5/mc1.5
#1413 [16:34] <AskingAlexandra> one moment...stepfather is helping me...
#1414 [16:34] <VoxelHead> Boy_child: (mac/10.5/mc1.5) Minecraft 1.5 currently does not work with Mac OSX Version 10.5 or lower. This is a known bug and will be fixed soon.
#1415 [16:34] <VoxelHead> Boy_child: (mac/10.5/mc1.5) In the meantime, you have 3 options: 1. Upgrade to Mac OSX 10.7 or later (Mac OSX 10.6 has problems), 2. Downgrade to 1.4.7 (See ?? downgrade/1.4.7), or 3. Wait for 1.5.1 to come out
#1416 [16:34] <tyteen4a03> AskingAlexandra, yes, then you have 1.5
#1417 [16:34] <Boy_child> Hmm...not sure. where would I find out?
#1418 [16:35] <tyteen4a03> Boy_child, read VoxelHead's message
#1419 [16:35] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne, any new purchases and downloads that happened after March 8 (the release date) would be 1.5
#1420 [16:35] <Boy_child> ok. what do you think is my best option for son dying to play?
#1421 [16:35] <tyteen4a03> Boy_child, you can wait for 1.5.1, which should be coming out in a week or so, or downgrade to 1.4.7
#1422 [16:36] <Boy_child> two sons, that is (we should be Boy_children :) )
#1423 [16:36] <Syfaro> there's the 1.5.1 prerelease
#1424 [16:36] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: Ah, yes. I skimmed over the 'yesterday' :P
#1425 [16:36] <tyteen4a03> Syfaro, I'd rather not promote prereleases
#1426 [16:36] <Syfaro> okay
#1427 [16:36] <tyteen4a03> Syfaro, with all their instableness and stuff
#1428 [16:36] <Syfaro> yeah
#1429 [16:36] <Boy_child> If I downgrade to 1.4.7, can I upgrade when 1.5.1 comes out?
#1430 [16:36] <Syfaro> Boy_child: yes
#1431 [16:36] <tyteen4a03> ??> Boy_child downgrade/1.4.7
#1432 [16:36] <VoxelHead> Boy_child: (downgrade/1.4.7) To downgrade minecraft to version 1.4.7, first download this file: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_7/minecraft.jar
#1433 [16:37] <VoxelHead> Boy_child: (downgrade/1.4.7) Once you have downloaded it, move it to the bin folder and overwrite the existing file there. (To find the bin folder, see win/.minecraft, mac/.minecraft, or linux/.minecraft)
#1434 [16:37] <AskingAlexandra> alright I have 1.5. Freshly downloaded.
#1435 [16:37] <tyteen4a03> AskingAlexandra, sounds like an old graphics card then
#1436 [16:37] <Boy_child> OK, I'll do my best, I am in uncharted territory here and I really appreciate your help!
#1437 [16:37] <tyteen4a03> AskingAlexandra, you'll need to either update your graphics driver (which I don't really know much about) or downgrade to 1.4.7
#1438 [16:38] <AskingAlexandra> okay hang on let me try another graphics driver....
#1439 [16:38] <Boy_child> one more question, please? how do I overwrite an existing file?
#1440 [16:39] <tyteen4a03> Boy_child, save the new one on top of the old file
#1441 [16:39] <AskingAlexandra> iokay this is me restarting my computer....not me leaving the IRC chat. ;)
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#1446 [16:44] <AskingAlexandra_> you were correct about the graphics driver me thinks
#1447 [16:44] <AskingAlexandra_> thank you!
#1448 [16:45] <AskingAlexandra_> ill be back if I have any more trouble.
#1449 [16:45] <tyteen4a03> AskingAlexandra_, no problem
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#1452 [16:51] <hi> hallo, ich hoffe ihr könnt mir helfen... wir haben gerade minecraft gekauft und auch gleich die links bekommen. als wir dann für en prifil anzulegen den code eingaben war er einmal falshc...also nocheinmal dann kam schon es wäre zu oft eingegeben worde...aber wir haben doch bezahlt. was machen wir jz? :O
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#1454 [16:52] <DiskDaemon> hi: In English please.
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#1457 [16:53] <hi> Hello, I hope you can help me ... we just bought minecraft and also get the same left. typed when we went for proifil to create the code, he was once again false ... so then it would be worde was already entered too many times ... but we have paid. what we can do?
#1458 [16:53] <hi> sry but my english isn`t good :(
#1459 [16:54] <DiskDaemon> That's okay, our spanish is even worse
#1460 [16:55] <DiskDaemon> What's this about getting the same left when typing the proifil?
#1461 [16:55] <hi> Can you help us?
#1462 [16:55] <DiskDaemon> possibly, but it depends on there being good communication between yourself and the volunteers that are in this channel
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#1464 [16:56] <hi> We get a e-mail with de codes which we copy and fill in the URL-BAR and then their stand: Error: to many failed redemption attempts.
#1465 [16:57] <hi> but we do this only once false
#1466 [16:57] <DiskDaemon> Is that with a prepaid gift card?
#1467 [16:58] <DiskDaemon> Or is it with a minecraft gift code?
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#1469 [16:59] <hi> no we buy minecraft because we would play multiplayer and pay it with paypal
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#1471 [16:59] <DiskDaemon> hi: I'm failing to understand why you would need to copy any codes after having purchased the game then
#1472 [16:59] <hi> we don´t have a gift card or gift code
#1473 [17:00] <hi> we must accept the email right?
#1474 [17:00] <DiskDaemon> sorry, but I won't know anything about that - we don't work for Mojang, we are all volunteers here
#1475 [17:01] <hi> okay thanks
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#1477 [17:01] <DiskDaemon> Would you like me to direct you towards customer ser... dammit
#1478 [17:01] <BrickViking> gone, heh?
#1479 [17:01] <DiskDaemon> 'tis always the way
#1480 [17:02] <BrickViking> oh gah.
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#1491 [17:16] <orangebanana47> hi i am experiencinga black screen when i login to minecraft and nothing shows up
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#1493 [17:16] <orangebanana47> hi i am experiencinga black screen when i login to minecraft and nothing shows up
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#1497 [17:20] <HighClassCatnip> Im not really sure how to ask the question I have but my paid for account was not working and then I tried to make another account with the SAME EXACT information and it made that and now I cant play anything and I have to buy a new account
#1498 [17:21] <HighClassCatnip> so help please because I have no idea how to fix it
#1499 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Making a new account doesn't transfer ownership. It's an entirely seperate account. Second, it's not possible to make an account with the same information.
#1500 [17:23] <HighClassCatnip> well, it just happened
#1501 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Please contact Mojang Support through their ticket system, including your transaction ID so that Mojang can look it up for you.
#1502 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> ?? mojang/email
#1503 [17:23] <VoxelHead> mojang/email: You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1504 [17:24] <HighClassCatnip> Can I call them directly?
#1505 [17:24] <HighClassCatnip> and whats the ticket system
#1506 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Mojang has no call center, as they're a small indie company based in Sweden
#1507 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> You can contact Mojang through their email ticket form at:
#1508 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> ??> HighClassCatnip mojang/email
#1509 [17:25] <VoxelHead> HighClassCatnip: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1510 [17:26] <HighClassCatnip> thanks, going to that site now
#1511 [17:29] <HighClassCatnip> about how quickly do you think they will reply to that email?
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#1513 [17:31] <ofna01> A day or two
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#1524 [17:57] <winner> can you send me a link for java
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#1526 [17:57] <mib_8llp02> i have problem
#1527 [17:58] <mib_8llp02> i try to join a server and downloading chunk freezez
#1528 [17:58] <mib_8llp02> any one helping me?
#1529 [17:58] <winner> mib do you see anyone for help
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#1531 [17:58] <winner> cause i see now one
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#1535 [18:00] <mib_8llp02> no i dont
#1536 [18:00] <mib_8llp02> i dont see anyone
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#1538 [18:01] <noah> how do you play online because I downloaded it and it will only let me play offline
#1539 [18:01] <ofna01> Noah, did you buy it?
#1540 [18:01] <noah> yeah
#1541 [18:01] <ofna01> Why can't you play online?
#1542 [18:02] <noah> I dont know
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#1544 [18:02] <ofna01> I mean, why can you not play?
#1545 [18:02] <ofna01> Why do you need help
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#1547 [18:02] <noah> It will only let me play offline
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#1549 [18:03] <ofna01> I need you to explain why you can't play online
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#1551 [18:04] <noah> When I log in it says try again or play offline
#1552 [18:04] <ofna01> I need something more specific
#1553 [18:04] <ofna01> Did it just fail to login, wrong password, what?
#1554 [18:04] <BrickViking> oh great. now help.mojang.com's down
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#1557 [18:05] <noah> when you run minecraft you need to log in and when i do it says try again or play offline
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#1560 [18:05] <BrickViking> in addition, minecraftstatus.com is down. Yay.
#1561 [18:06] <cestislife> !login
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#1564 [18:06] <noah> it will let me but it wont let me play online
#1565 [18:06] <winner> i need java link again voxel
#1566 [18:06] <BrickViking> hm. strange. Now help.mojang's live.
#1567 [18:07] <gpk> i updated the new update 1.5 but there is no quartz when i play my map and go into the nether? i forced updated it a few times but quartz still wont come in. i have other parts of the update just not that one. But strangely when i create a new world on creative and go into it
#1568 [18:07] <gpk> i do have quartz
#1569 [18:07] <cestislife> gpk: Quartz will only generate in the newer areas of the Nether that you have not explored
#1570 [18:07] <winner> tyteen
#1571 [18:07] <cestislife> They will not magically appear in your existing chunks.
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#1573 [18:08] <gpk> really? sorry for asking
#1574 [18:08] <winner> cestis can you give me java link
#1575 [18:08] <cestislife> winner: http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#1576 [18:08] <winner> thanks
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#1578 [18:10] <noah> can someone explain it to me
#1579 [18:10] <noah> or help me
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#1588 [18:15] <DirtyButler> just bought game watching how to vidoes, when i punch treesnoting happens. what am i doing wrong?
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#1591 [18:16] <rymate1234> DirtyButler, you need to hold down the left mouse button
#1592 [18:17] <BrickViking> that's actually one of the first things I had to learn.
#1593 [18:17] <DirtyButler> oh hold down? not click?
#1594 [18:17] <BrickViking> Yes.
#1595 [18:17] <FLHerne> DirtyButler: Hold down. It'll sort of gradually crumble
#1596 [18:17] <FLHerne> If you want it to crumble faster, make an axe ;-)
#1597 [18:18] <FLHerne> If that still isn't fast enough, make a better axe ;-)
#1598 [18:18] <BrickViking> And unfortunately for my dear wife, the time between what's considered as a right-click and a right-hold is too ... short.
#1599 [18:18] <DirtyButler> thank you i try it! wow i feel like supper noob lol
#1600 [18:18] <BrickViking> So she'll click for about 300-400ms, and trigger a right-hold, leaving the chest open without actually opening it.
#1601 [18:18] <BrickViking> unfortunately she can't click for less time than that.
#1602 [18:18] <DirtyButler> omg it worked lol thank you so much!
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#1608 [18:25] <Banks_w> i have paid. followed link to download. it takes me to small window of minecraft that has minecraft news on it. the only option to try and play is to click log in down at the bottom right. when i do that that same window goes black and nothing else happens. how do i play.
#1609 [18:25] <BrickViking> hm. Go to that same window, you ought to see an "Options" button.
#1610 [18:25] <BrickViking> Hit that, you should get asked to "Force Update". Hit that.
#1611 [18:26] <BrickViking> then close the dialog, then log in.
#1612 [18:26] <Banks_w> yes. it only had one option to force date. i have tried that. i will tyr that agian. give me a second.
#1613 [18:27] * BrickViking sighs
#1613 [18:27] <Banks_w> did that. it says "will force"
#1614 [18:27] <BrickViking> good. Noww close that dialog.
#1615 [18:27] <BrickViking> And log in.
#1616 [18:27] <BrickViking> you should then see stuff downloading.
#1617 [18:27] <BrickViking> Incidentally, what graphics chipset do you have?
#1618 [18:28] <BrickViking> ... and how much video memory do you think you have?
#1619 [18:28] <Banks_w> not sure. i have a 4gb gateway i bought a few months ago.
#1620 [18:28] <BrickViking> hm.
#1621 [18:29] <Lord_Ralex> let's try to figure out why it black screens first BrickViking ;)
#1622 [18:29] <Banks_w> not it has pulled me up to the title screen. i think the update worked.
#1623 [18:29] <Lord_Ralex> or it now works and we don't need it
#1624 [18:29] <BrickViking> let's hope so.
#1625 [18:30] <Banks_w> it seems to be working now. When i want to play each time, where do i go to start. i don't have an icon anywhere.
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#1627 [18:30] <BrickViking> you should have a "minecraft.exe" or equivalent on your desktop.
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#1629 [18:30] <BrickViking> What Os are you using? Windows? Mac Os X?
#1630 [18:31] <Lord_Ralex> Banks_w, how did you originally start it?
#1631 [18:31] <Banks_w> i do, but when i try to open it i get a window that says my security won't let it open. i ahve added minecraft as atrusted site and get the same thing
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#1633 [18:31] <Banks_w> i have windows 7
#1634 [18:32] <ofna01> You need to add the actual minecraft, not the site
#1635 [18:32] <BrickViking> ahhh. Wonderful. One I don't know how to deal with.
#1636 [18:32] <Banks_w> origiannly i followed the down load link in the confirmation email and then got to the game. but i have trouble getting back.
#1637 [18:32] <Lord_Ralex> The User thing will ask if you want to if you have not told it to allow it, but that should just be a "yes, no" on letting it run still
#1638 [18:33] <Lord_Ralex> Banks_w, the exe should be in the Downloads folder on your computer
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#1640 [18:33] <BrickViking> ... at least, the most likely place.
#1641 [18:33] <BrickViking> If it is there, then copy it over to your desktop.
#1642 [18:33] <Lord_Ralex> BrickViking, eww with it on desktop :P
#1643 [18:33] <BrickViking> I'm not sure how to deal with the security, aside from what Ralex said...
#1644 [18:33] <Banks_w> ill look. i have an icon on my desktop but it says my security wont let me open it.
#1645 [18:34] <BrickViking> weird.
#1646 [18:34] <Banks_w> not in my dowloads folder
#1647 [18:34] <BrickViking> Is there a "troubleshoot" button there? Or a "Help" button on that "security" window?
#1648 [18:35] <Banks_w> yes, i followed it and added it to a trusted site. but the icon is the exe. in my user folder and the security wil only let you aprove actual webites.
#1649 [18:36] <BrickViking> .... weird.
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#1651 [18:40] <Banks_w> how can i get the exe. file to be trusted or approved or whatever
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#1653 [18:41] <BrickViking> Your next option would be to try Google or Microsoft Help for that.
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#1655 [18:43] <CollectorMaster> hello?
#1656 [18:43] <FLHerne> CollectorMaster: Hi
#1657 [18:43] <CollectorMaster> I need some help with some problems with the new redstone update
#1658 [18:44] <FLHerne> CollectorMaster: So, what problems?
#1659 [18:44] <CollectorMaster> all my friends got the new redstone update, and they can still shift click. I got the new update, but I can't shift click. what happened and what do I do to fix it.
#1660 [18:44] <CollectorMaster> ?
#1661 [18:45] <FLHerne> CollectorMaster: What OS?
#1662 [18:45] <CollectorMaster> os?
#1663 [18:45] <BrickViking> MAC OS X, Windows? Linux?
#1664 [18:45] <FLHerne> Operating System, I would assume Windows
#1665 [18:45] <CollectorMaster> um, it's an acre
#1666 [18:45] <CollectorMaster> acer
#1667 [18:46] <BrickViking> heh. is there a littel symbol down on your left hand bottom corner with a Windows logo on?
#1668 [18:46] <CollectorMaster> it's a windows laptop
#1669 [18:47] <BrickViking> right.
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#1671 [18:48] <CollectorMaster> I had no problems with the shift clicking until I got the 1.5 update. it's a windows laptop, if you didn't get that.
#1672 [18:49] <FLHerne> CollectorMaster: You haven't acidentally changed your control settings?
#1673 [18:49] <CollectorMaster> hold on. let me look real quick to make sure they have not changed
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#1676 [18:53] <CollectorMaster> ok. it works now. the update changed the controls.
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#1678 [18:53] <CollectorMaster> bye
#1679 [18:53] <CollectorMaster> and thanks
#1680 [18:53] <TLK2001> I cant get minecraft to work on my iMac
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#1683 [18:54] <TLK2001> I'm a new member and downoaded the software but got the error below
#1684 [18:55] <TLK2001> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Shall we play a game? Time: 3/20/13 3:46 PM Description: Failed to start game org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not get the JAWT interface at org.lwjgl.opengl.AWTSurfaceLock.lockAndInitHandle(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.AWTSurfaceLock.access$100(AWTSurfaceLock.java:49) at org.lwjgl.opengl.AWTSurfaceLock$1.run(AWTSurfaceLock.java:89) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileg
#1685 [18:55] <FLHerne> TLK2001: Are you running 10.5.x?
#1686 [18:55] <FLHerne> aka Leopard
#1687 [18:55] <TLK2001> Yes, 10.8.3
#1688 [18:55] <FLHerne> 10.8.3 isn't 10.5.x :P
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#1690 [18:56] <TLK2001> I'm I running a version that is not supported?
#1691 [18:56] <FLHerne> Unfortunately, that means that I don't know what your problem is - haven't used Macs for years
#1692 [18:56] <FLHerne> TLK2001: No, you're not running the version that has a major known problem
#1693 [18:57] <cestislife> TLK2001: Downgrade to Java 6
#1694 [18:57] <TLK2001> okay
#1695 [18:57] <cestislife> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5559
#1696 [18:57] <TLK2001> thank you, i'll give it a shot
#1697 [18:57] <FLHerne> Ah, someone here does know about recent OSX :-)
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#1701 [19:02] <Kalbarr> hello room
#1702 [19:02] * BrickViking looks around and can't see room
#1702 [19:02] <Kalbarr> Anyone know why im getting red vertical lines on my screen when minecraft starts?
#1703 [19:03] <BrickViking> hm. First off, what OS? Mac OS X, Windows or Linux?
#1704 [19:03] <Kalbarr> sorry brick i should of mentioned that. Os xp pro
#1705 [19:04] <Kalbarr> pentiom4 2.53
#1706 [19:04] <BrickViking> Right. Next off, what's your graphics chipset?
#1707 [19:04] <Kalbarr> 1 gig of ram chipset?
#1708 [19:04] <Kalbarr> let me look
#1709 [19:04] <FLHerne> Kalbarr: Youch. How does that P4 run?
#1710 [19:05] * FLHerne never got his old P4 to run MC nicely
#1710 [19:05] <BrickViking> Is it an nvidia? ATI? Intel?
#1711 [19:05] <Kalbarr> runs good never had an issue
#1712 [19:05] <Kalbarr> nvidia card yes
#1713 [19:05] <BrickViking> Heh. I've got a Pentium Dual Core (E5200) that performs quite passably.
#1714 [19:05] <FLHerne> Kalbarr: Nice :-)
#1715 [19:05] * Lutzee feels sorry for you all
#1715 [19:05] <Kalbarr> lol
#1716 [19:05] <cestislife> FLHerne: I had a dual core pentium, 1gb of ram, and an integrated intel chipset on my old desktop.
#1717 [19:05] <cestislife> It ran MC fine.
#1718 [19:05] <Kalbarr> its an old dell
#1719 [19:06] <FLHerne> Pentium D @2.8GHz here, sort-of-acceptable with mods and HD textures
#1720 [19:06] <Lutzee> hmm one second
#1721 [19:06] <FLHerne> Quite good without them
#1722 [19:07] <Kalbarr> brick im thinking agp 2 :( lol
#1723 [19:07] * Lutzee ** WinSys ** Client: HexChat 2.9.3 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 16337 MB Total (12570 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series ** Uptime: 12.33 Hours **
#1723 [19:07] <Lutzee> O.o the cPU speed is wrong though im not underclocking
#1724 [19:07] <FLHerne> 12CPU~Dual core Intel Pentium D CPU (-MCP-) clocked at 2800.103 Mhz 12Kernel~3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 12Up~17 days 12Mem~1725.6/3954.2MB 12HDD~80.0GB(64.5% used) 12Procs~165 12Client~Quassel [M] v0.8.0 (dist-5988f4c) 12inxi~1.7.33  
#1725 [19:07] <BrickViking> sigh.
#1726 [19:07] <Kalbarr> this computer has never failed me just having this graphic issue on this game
#1727 [19:07] <FLHerne> My 17 days beats your 12.33 hours :D
#1728 [19:08] <FLHerne> Kalbarr: Sorry, distraction :P
#1729 [19:08] <Lutzee> FLHerne: I dont need uptime, 12 second boot time :P
#1730 [19:08] <Kalbarr> lol no problem
#1731 [19:08] <FLHerne> Lutzee: I don't need fast boot time, monthly reboots :P
#1732 [19:09] <Lutzee> My laptop has over a months uptime tbh
#1733 [19:09] <BrickViking> lol. Machines here get shut down overnight, so no monthly uptime for me...
#1734 [19:09] <FLHerne> Lutzee: Nice
#1735 [19:09] <FLHerne> Linux, of WIndows somehow not grinding to a halt?
#1736 [19:09] <FLHerne> s/of/or/
#1737 [19:09] <BrickViking> the laptop gets hibernated, I let that happen for a week, then reboot to keep things sane.
#1738 [19:10] <Kalbarr> um so is it the video card? lmao
#1739 [19:10] <Lutzee> Kalbarr: Without an error report we wont know ;)
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#1741 [19:10] <BrickViking> kalbarr: so, what IS the video card? I take it you don't have a PCI-express chipset on that motherboard?
#1742 [19:10] <Kalbarr> and it isnt giving one now that it loads
#1743 [19:11] <Kalbarr> i dont think so Brickviking i think its an agp2
#1744 [19:11] <Kalbarr> nvidia
#1745 [19:11] <Kalbarr> 9600 i believe
#1746 [19:11] <BrickViking> sigh. then you'll have some issues...
#1747 [19:11] <BrickViking> hang on, did you say a 9600???
#1748 [19:11] <Kalbarr> shoyes
#1749 [19:12] <Kalbarr> yes*
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#1751 [19:12] <Lutzee> Its a discrete card allright
#1752 [19:12] <Kalbarr> should i buy a pci card?
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#1754 [19:12] <BrickViking> uhm, no. That's presumably a PCI-Express card already
#1755 [19:12] <BrickViking> GeForce 9600?
#1756 [19:12] <FLHerne> Kalbarr: Never use a PCI graphics card :P
#1757 [19:12] <BrickViking> GT?
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#1759 [19:13] <Lutzee> GT9600s sem to be PCI-e
#1760 [19:13] <BrickViking> FLHerne: hah. does that include PCI-Express?
#1761 [19:13] <Kalbarr> this is an old optiplex
#1762 [19:13] <FLHerne> PCIe is entirely different, but you won't have that if you have AGP
#1763 [19:13] <Lutzee> BrickViking: no, they are differnt thing
#1764 [19:13] <FLHerne> BrickViking: Of course not
#1765 [19:13] <BrickViking> heh. Fine.
#1766 [19:13] <BrickViking> what's the machine model, Kalbarr?
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#1769 [19:13] <Kalbarr> gx260
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#1771 [19:14] <FLHerne> For some reason this PD lump *still* has a 7770. Luckily I had a PCIe slot :-)
#1772 [19:14] <Kalbarr> optiplex gx260
#1773 [19:15] <Lutzee> So its a low profile tower like i had
#1774 [19:15] <Kalbarr> no this one stands
#1775 [19:15] <Kalbarr> they had a low one too but this one is upright
#1776 [19:15] <Lutzee> same thing
#1777 [19:15] <Lutzee> They have the same insides
#1778 [19:16] <Lutzee> yours just has a fancy stand with it :P
#1779 [19:16] <Kalbarr> oic
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#1781 [19:17] <Lutzee> Are you able to open it and see the colour of the slot that the graphics card is in?
#1782 [19:17] <Kalbarr> its brown
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#1785 [19:17] <Lutzee> Sounds like AGP
#1786 [19:18] <BrickViking> oh my goodness. Maximum of 1Gb of memory.
#1787 [19:18] <Kalbarr> yes agp 2
#1788 [19:18] <BrickViking> tat's even worse than my wife's machine.
#1789 [19:18] <Kalbarr> lol
#1790 [19:18] <Kalbarr> its mainly for the kids to play with
#1791 [19:18] <Lutzee> Then yeah, that is old
#1792 [19:18] <BrickViking> then it can't be a NVidia 9600. How about an ATI Radeon 9600?
#1793 [19:19] <BrickViking> Wife has the 9550...
#1794 [19:19] <cestislife> It must be a legacy card.
#1795 [19:19] <Kalbarr> it says nvidia settings by clock
#1796 [19:19] <BrickViking> hm.
#1797 [19:19] <cestislife> There's 4 versions of the 9600
#1798 [19:19] <Lutzee> Back in the days when they were making the switch to PCI-e manufactueres made cards for both slots
#1799 [19:20] <Kalbarr> it sat nvidia riva tnt2
#1800 [19:20] <BrickViking> oh wow. That's old these days.
#1801 [19:20] <Kalbarr> model64 my bad
#1802 [19:20] <Lutzee> the easy way to find out is
#1803 [19:20] <BrickViking> uhm, replay that?
#1804 [19:20] <Kalbarr> model64pro
#1805 [19:20] <BrickViking> ah.
#1806 [19:20] <Lutzee> ?? win/dxdiag
#1807 [19:20] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1808 [19:20] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
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#1810 [19:21] <CollectorMaster> Hello?
#1811 [19:21] <BrickViking> This comes earlier than the one in the Ark...
#1812 [19:22] <CollectorMaster> What?
#1813 [19:22] <BrickViking> the riva
#1814 [19:22] <CollectorMaster> I need some more help
#1815 [19:22] <cestislife> ?? ask
#1816 [19:22] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1817 [19:22] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1819 [19:23] <CollectorMaster> Ok. I got to where I can get a full stack or something from my creative inventory. I still can't shift click stuff directly from a chest into my inventory. How do I completely fix it?
#1820 [19:23] * williewillus is now known as willieaway
#1821 [19:23] <Kalbarr> http://pastebin.com/srtqL38J
#1822 [19:24] <Kalbarr> there you go
#1823 [19:24] <Kalbarr> thanks guys for the help
#1824 [19:24] <CollectorMaster> Hey. Is anyone gonna answer me?
#1825 [19:24] <Lutzee> 16MB graphics card.. okay wow
#1826 [19:24] <cestislife> CollectorMaster: Check if touchscreen mode is on, turn it off if it is.
#1827 [19:25] <Kalbarr> lol not good huh
#1828 [19:25] <CollectorMaster> Ok. Hold on one sec
#1829 [19:25] <cestislife> It's in options
#1830 [19:25] <Lutzee> Kalbarr: Er.. the copper on the board its on is worth more than the card itself intact.. >.>
#1831 [19:25] <FLHerne> 16MB doesn't even count as 'not good' :P
#1832 [19:26] <Kalbarr> lmao ok so is there a better card in agp2
#1833 [19:26] <skymoy> Kalbarr: lets put it this way: 128MB is hard to get minecraft running with
#1834 [19:26] <FLHerne> Seriously, I have a 1999 card with 8 times that amount...
#1835 [19:26] <Lutzee> ^
#1836 [19:26] <Kalbarr> lol
#1837 [19:26] <Kalbarr> Ok ill see what i can find
#1838 [19:26] <BrickViking> yes. You need a new machine...
#1839 [19:26] <Kalbarr> lol
#1840 [19:26] <Kalbarr> man that bad huh
#1841 [19:27] <BrickViking> I'm not actually kidding.
#1842 [19:27] <Lutzee> Its possible to build a PC for like $300 that will work finde for minecraft
#1843 [19:27] <Kalbarr> yeah the funny thing is i know youre right
#1844 [19:27] <FLHerne> Kalbarr: TBH, getting hold of a good solid AGP2 card is probably harder than just getting another PC
#1845 [19:27] <FLHerne> Lutzee: $300!?
#1846 [19:27] <BrickViking> My wife has a Hyperthreaded 2.5GHz P4, with AGP radeon 9550, and 2Gb memory. It's not running Minecraft fast enough.
#1847 [19:27] <Kalbarr> ill get on that today
#1848 [19:27] <BrickViking> I run that on Linux, because XP won't do the job.
#1849 [19:28] <Kalbarr> thanks you all for the help
#1850 [19:28] <cestislife> Apparently nvidia doesnt provide even the drivers for that card anymore.
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#1852 [19:28] <cestislife> http://i.imgur.com/JMcxJmF.png
#1853 [19:28] <Kalbarr> ok im depressed now lol
#1854 [19:28] <BrickViking> no, they haven't provided drivers for that for a while.
#1855 [19:28] <FLHerne> You can get 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo things here for about £100, that would run MC
#1856 [19:28] <cestislife> BrickViking: Even if so I would expect that they keep legacy drivers
#1857 [19:28] <cestislife> But apparently they dont.
#1858 [19:28] <BrickViking> tat's about 180 dollars
#1859 [19:28] <BrickViking> no, not that far back.
#1860 [19:28] <Lutzee> Kalbarr: one minute
#1861 [19:29] <Kalbarr> lol well im off to work. thanks again ill let you know how it goes lol
#1862 [19:29] <FLHerne> BrickViking: Still less than $300 :P
#1863 [19:29] <CollectorMaster> Really? All this time I have been having trouble with thevshift clicking just because the touch screen mode was on. Good grief! Thanks a lot who ever helped me!
#1864 [19:29] <Kalbarr> ok lutzee
#1865 [19:29] <FLHerne> CollectorMaster: :-)
#1866 [19:29] <cestislife> CollectorMaster: :)
#1867 [19:29] <mastersteven> can someone tell me how to download thegame i bought it and cant get it installed
#1868 [19:29] <cestislife> mastersteven: Download the launcher here - http://minecraft.net/download - then login.
#1869 [19:29] <cestislife> It should download the files for you.
#1870 [19:29] <CollectorMaster> Bye!!!
#1871 [19:30] <Lutzee> Kalbarr: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/L52L
#1872 [19:30] <Lutzee> FLHerne: ^
#1873 [19:30] <Lutzee> Easy
#1874 [19:31] <Kalbarr> wow saved it on my comp!
#1875 [19:31] <Kalbarr> thanks for the info everyone
#1876 [19:31] <FLHerne> Lutzee: Looks solid :-)
#1877 [19:32] <Kalbarr> I do appreciate
#1878 [19:32] <Lutzee> No problem :)
#1879 [19:32] <Kalbarr> see you all later thank you
#1880 [19:32] <FLHerne> I'm planning to go for a standardish i5 setup sometime, when I've got hold of some more money :-)
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#1884 [19:33] <xxcrayzexx> how do i go down while flying
#1885 [19:33] <Lutzee> shift
#1886 [19:33] <xxcrayzexx> ty
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#1889 [19:34] <xxcrayzexx> not working
#1890 [19:34] <skymoy> the 'sneak' key
#1891 [19:34] <skymoy> what ever you have that set to
#1892 [19:35] <Guest98106> my minecraft crashed after I put mod files into the bin folder
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#1894 [19:35] <cestislife> mod files aren't supposed to be in the bin folder.
#1895 [19:35] <cestislife> ??> Guest98106 mods
#1896 [19:36] <VoxelHead> Guest98106: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1897 [19:36] <VoxelHead> Guest98106: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1899 [19:37] <Guest98106> cestislife where do they go then
#1900 [19:37] * Steve[work] is now known as Steve[work]|away
#1901 [19:38] <skymoy> Guest98106: VoxelHead told you where to go for mod support
#1902 [19:38] <skymoy> Guest98106: VoxelHead told you where to go for mod support
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#1904 [19:39] <Guest98106> .....y would i go there if im already here and he has the answer
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#1906 [19:39] <Lutzee> He doesnt have the asnwer, its just a genreal rule of modding.
#1907 [19:40] <Guest98106> my other mod worked in the bin file
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#1913 [19:45] <kocaptainsparkle> i cant login to my account
#1914 [19:46] <kocaptainsparkle> hello?
#1915 [19:46] <Lutzee> What error do you get?
#1916 [19:46] <kocaptainsparkle> Minecraft has crashed!
#1917 [19:47] <Lutzee> ?? pastebin
#1918 [19:47] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1919 [19:47] <kocaptainsparkle> i need help
#1920 [19:49] * willieaway is now known as williewillus
#1921 [19:49] <|Kiikun|> kocaptainsparkle: open the text file the the crash message mentions, copy its contents, put it up on pastebin, then give us the link to it.
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#1926 [19:53] <xxcrayzexx> how do i go down from flying
#1927 [19:53] <xxcrayzexx> shift and double space r not working
#1928 [19:53] <xxcrayzexx> help
#1929 [19:54] <xxcrayzexx> helllllooo
#1930 [19:54] <|Kiikun|> if youre laggy, you might have to tripple or quad-slap spacebar for it to register.
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#1932 [19:55] <jacobsmitty> I downloaded mycraft and my grandson played....but after shutting it down, there is no icon or shortcut to get back to it. Can anyone help me out?
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#1934 [19:55] <aggrevated> help
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#1936 [19:55] <aggrevated> how do i stop flying
#1937 [19:55] <aggrevated> this thing keepss logging me out
#1938 [19:55] <|Kiikun|> jacobsmitty: press ctrl+j in the browser you used to download the launcher, it shoudl be in the downloads list. juts save it on the desktop
#1939 [19:56] <CollectorMaster> Is there any way to change the monster spawner in single player? I don't want a pig spawner, and I want a Enderman spawner
#1940 [19:56] <aggrevated> anyone
#1941 [19:56] <|Kiikun|> CollectorMaster: nope. you need to either use a mod or use mcedit
#1942 [19:56] <|Kiikun|> aggrevated: if youre laggy, you might have to tripple or quad-slap spacebar for it to register.
#1943 [19:56] <|Kiikun|> [19:53] * mastersteven (webchat@108-194-241-175.lig
#1944 [19:56] <|Kiikun|> ack
#1945 [19:56] <FLHerne> aggrevated: Press shift
#1946 [19:56] <aggrevated> ive tried and nothing
#1947 [19:56] <haku> Hey I have been having trouble with the minecraft 1.5 Redstone update. Right after the application downloaded all the packages, the screen just went black. I tried again a few seconds later and it did the same thing. The next few days I had been constantly trying to play minecraft but the screen still went black. I tried deleting all of my mods, including my tekkit application, and it still does not work to this day. Can anyone help
#1948 [19:56] <FLHerne> Or double-tab the spacebar
#1949 [19:56] <aggrevated> i did that too
#1950 [19:57] <CollectorMaster> Is there a way or not?
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#1952 [19:57] <FLHerne> haku: OSX Leopard?
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#1954 [19:57] <cestislife> CollectorMaster: Without the usage of mods, no.
#1955 [19:57] <cestislife> Also
#1956 [19:57] <FLHerne> Drat, left already :P
#1957 [19:57] <aggrevated> will mojang give me a refund
#1958 [19:57] <cestislife> ?? patience
#1959 [19:57] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1960 [19:57] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#1961 [19:57] <jacobsmitty> kiikun...yes I see that , but that is the download link...I need the link that launches the game, after closing it??
#1962 [19:57] <CollectorMaster> Do you have to download mc edit?
#1963 [19:57] <cestislife> Yes.
#1964 [19:58] <cestislife> We will not assist you on how to use it though.
#1965 [19:58] <CollectorMaster> From where?
#1966 [19:58] <cestislife> Google it.
#1967 [19:58] <CollectorMaster> Ok
#1968 [19:58] <|Kiikun|> jacobsmitty: http://minecraft.net/download and just save the exe/app/jar to the desktop
#1969 [19:58] <aggrevated> so neither are working
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#1971 [19:59] <|Kiikun|> aggrevated: you can also try /gamemode 0 :P but youll most likely die
#1972 [19:59] <aggrevated> i jst want to get to the ground
#1973 [20:00] <aggrevated> im in the stars and cannot get down no matter how many times i tap space or shift
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#1975 [20:00] <cestislife> You hold shift, you don't tap it.
#1976 [20:00] <cestislife> Check your controls, they might have been changed
#1977 [20:00] <cestislife> Lagging can also prevent you from double tapping space.
#1978 [20:00] <jacobsmitty> Kiikun, All I see or have is the file to reinstall the program??
#1979 [20:01] <|Kiikun|> jacobsmitty: thats not an installer, thats the launcher.
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#1982 [20:01] <aggrevated_> i keep getting kicked before i get help
#1983 [20:01] <|Kiikun|> it doesnt 'install' per se.
#1984 [20:01] <jacobsmitty> I'll try it
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#1986 [20:01] <aggrevated_> what do i type to get to the ground
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#1988 [20:02] <BrickViking> try /spawn really quickly
#1989 [20:02] <|Kiikun|> was /spawn added to vanilla?
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#1991 [20:02] <BrickViking> oh. Sorry.
#1992 [20:02] <jacobsmitty> Kiikun....YOU were RIGHT...THANKS SO MUCH!
#1993 [20:03] <|Kiikun|> . /kill and /tp work
#1994 [20:03] <|Kiikun|> jacobsmitty: no probs ;3 enjoy
#1995 [20:03] <|Kiikun|> jacobsmitty: no probs ;3 enjoy
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#2000 [20:03] <aggrevated> did not work
#2001 [20:04] <aggrevated> so what else do i type to reach ground
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#2003 [20:04] <|Kiikun|> aggrevated: tried throwing an enderball down?
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#2005 [20:04] <zedekus> minecraft has crashed...I have an error report. do I need to delete and reinstall?
#2006 [20:05] <|Kiikun|> theres really only a handfull of ways to reduce your elevation. and if your so high up you can see the sun and moon.. it might be a long fall
#2007 [20:05] <|Kiikun|> ??> zedekus pastebin
#2008 [20:05] <VoxelHead> zedekus: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2009 [20:05] <aggrevated> hhow do i get a refund? i have had nthng but issues since i purchased it
#2010 [20:05] <aggrevated> im at the stars and nothing has happened
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#2014 [20:06] <BrickViking> aggrevated: hit F3 for me, please.
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#2016 [20:06] <BrickViking> check out what the Y: size is.
#2017 [20:06] <aggrevated> ok
#2018 [20:06] <|Kiikun|> inb4 >2000 >.>
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#2020 [20:07] <aggrevated> what its for the brightness
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#2023 [20:07] <BrickViking> I'm not after that one.. I'm after your x: y: z:
#2024 [20:07] <BrickViking> especially the y:
#2025 [20:07] <Nickey701> Hey when is 1.5.1 coming out?
#2026 [20:07] <cestislife> Nickey701: When Mojang releases it.
#2027 [20:07] <|Kiikun|> Nickey701: when jeb says so.
#2028 [20:08] <Nickey701> Meanies
#2029 [20:08] <Lutzee> Tomorrow hopefully
#2030 [20:08] <BrickViking> I thought someone said Thursday. But yes, when Mojang releases it.
#2031 [20:08] <|Kiikun|> we dont know any more than you
#2032 [20:08] <cestislife> We're being realistic.
#2033 [20:08] <Lutzee> Jens said if all goes well and MCP has updated then tomorrow
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#2036 [20:08] <aggrevated> no i dea
#2037 [20:08] <Nickey701> I was wondering because someone said yesterday that the update will be compatible with my type of mac
#2038 [20:08] <aggrevated> its not telling me
#2039 [20:09] <Lutzee> The prerelease is allready available on mojang.com
#2040 [20:09] <|Kiikun|> aggrevated: on the left side of youer screen after pressing f3, theres a bunch of text. three lines near the middle star X Y and Z
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#2043 [20:10] <|Kiikun|> aggrevated: on the left side of youer screen after pressing f3, theres a bunch of text. three lines near the middle star X Y and Z
#2044 [20:10] <aggrevated_> t only does my brightness not xyzz
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#2046 [20:10] <BrickViking> weird.
#2047 [20:10] <BrickViking> Did you hit F3?
#2048 [20:11] <BrickViking> ...while in the game?
#2049 [20:11] <aggrevated_> yeep
#2050 [20:11] <|Kiikun|> ,..wait...
#2051 [20:11] <aggrevated_> yes
#2052 [20:11] <BrickViking> Could you send us a screenshot?
#2053 [20:11] <|Kiikun|> brighness... as in your laptop screen brightness?
#2054 [20:11] <[Ninja]Nickey701> Why did 1.5 de-add texture packs file on the game
#2055 [20:11] * BrickViking wonders
#2055 [20:11] <aggrevated_> how
#2056 [20:11] <BrickViking> Ninja: it's in a different place.
#2057 [20:11] <[Ninja]Nickey701> Where in options?
#2058 [20:11] <|Kiikun|> it got moved into video options
#2059 [20:11] <cestislife> Yes.
#2060 [20:11] <aggrevated_> how do i send a screenshot
#2061 [20:12] <Lutzee> The texturepacks button is in the main options menu now
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#2063 [20:12] <Lutzee> You can now change TPs in game
#2064 [20:12] <|Kiikun|> aggrevated: imgur.com
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#2066 [20:12] <BrickViking> aggrevated: check imgur.com
#2067 [20:12] <BrickViking> hah. you beat me to it, kiikun
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#2069 [20:12] <|Kiikun|> ;/
#2070 [20:12] <|Kiikun|> :P
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#2072 [20:12] <aggrevated_> theres no options for scren shot
#2073 [20:13] <|Kiikun|> aggrevated_: are you on a laptop?
#2074 [20:13] <BrickViking> sigh. Hit the PrintScreen (PrtSc/SysReq) key
#2075 [20:13] <BrickViking> then go looking for a picture editor. I can't help with that, I don't know if you even have one.
#2076 [20:14] <aggrevated_> ]yes
#2077 [20:14] <|Kiikun|> aggrevated_: press fn+f3 in game then.
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#2079 [20:14] * |Kiikun| HATES that laptop makers are now doing that
#2079 [20:14] <BrickViking> heh. If I do Fn-F3 here, the computer suspends.
#2080 [20:15] <aggrevated_> x -211
#2081 [20:15] <|Kiikun|> y?
#2082 [20:15] <aggrevated_> y 408
#2083 [20:16] <aggrevated_> z 298
#2084 [20:16] <|Kiikun|> try typing this in minecraft: /tp -211 100 298
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#2088 [20:17] <aggrevated_> ty
#2089 [20:18] <|Kiikun|> that shoudl tp you atleast close to the ground, where you can get a better idea about controlling your flight
#2090 [20:18] <|Kiikun|> doublecheck that your sneak key is set to shift in options too
#2091 [20:18] <aggrevated_> i was doing fine yesterday but i jstloged in and was trying to ngo to the ground and it kept going p instead
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#2098 [20:20] <BrickViking> aggrevated: then check your keyboard controls.
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#2102 [20:22] <zedekus> http://pastebin.com/W7X0L7vH here is the url for my minecraft crash help
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#2104 [20:24] <mcmorran> i need some help my minecraft crashed and i dont know how to get it working again
#2105 [20:24] <cestislife> ??> zedekus mac/10.5/mc1.5
#2106 [20:24] <VoxelHead> zedekus: (mac/10.5/mc1.5) Minecraft 1.5 currently does not work with Mac OSX Version 10.5 or lower. This is a known bug and will be fixed soon.
#2107 [20:24] <VoxelHead> zedekus: (mac/10.5/mc1.5) In the meantime, you have 3 options: 1. Upgrade to Mac OSX 10.7 or later (Mac OSX 10.6 has problems), 2. Downgrade to 1.4.7 (See ?? downgrade/1.4.7), or 3. Wait for 1.5.1 to come out
#2108 [20:24] <mcmorran> how long till it will
#2109 [20:25] <mcmorran> how long till 1.5.1 comes out i really want to play minecraft but i can't :(
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#2112 [20:29] <sue> My son's account has recieved a blank screen (no graphics) that says Minecraft has crashed! How do I repair this...it is a paid account.
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#2114 [20:32] <sue> -Well?
#2115 [20:32] <Garylover> I need help to make my inventory, crafting table menu, etc. bigger. somehow it turned really small...
#2116 [20:33] <sue> The message said to send the error file...but I don't know who to send it to.
#2117 [20:34] <Garylover> I'm really confused...
#2118 [20:35] <sue> With what?
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#2120 [20:36] <sue> Minecraft has crashed. What do I do to fix this?
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#2122 [20:37] <Garylover> Well, since this is my first time here, well...yeah. But do you know how can I fix my problem? I can't see my items well since it's pretty small.
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#2133 [20:51] <damnthis> i just bought minecraft and i tryed to log in and it says log in failed (not downloaded)
#2134 [20:52] <BrickViking> check the username (it ought to be the email address you used) and check your password is also correct.
#2135 [20:52] <cestislife> damnthis: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/1003067-error-not-downloaded
#2136 [20:52] <BrickViking> i.e. for me, my username is someusername@somehost.com
#2137 [20:52] <damnthis> thanks so much guys
#2138 [20:53] <DrKitKat> when i downloaded the game launcher its saying can't connect to minecradt.net and the news says failed to update news and i am indeed connected to the internet please help!
#2139 [20:53] <BrickViking> strange.
#2140 [20:53] <DrKitKat> and when i use the browser one it says downloading minecraft then its about 2 inches away then never finishes loading
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#2142 [20:55] <DrKitKat> Well
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#2145 [20:58] <DrKitKat> This is no help
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#2152 [21:01] <dudeltron14> my minecraft keeps crashing because i downloaded a mod with the wrong version.
#2153 [21:01] <Lutzee> ??> dudeltron14 forceupdate
#2154 [21:01] <VoxelHead> dudeltron14: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2155 [21:01] <VoxelHead> dudeltron14: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2156 [21:01] <DrKitKat> ok so in my browser i play the minecraft in the browser one and it random stopped and it will say downloading minecraft then its 2 inches away then won't load anymore and in the download one it says cannot Connect to minecraft.net
#2157 [21:02] <dudeltron14> i tried that but it just says "will update" then does nothing.
#2158 [21:02] <cestislife> You have to login.
#2159 [21:03] <dudeltron14> i did...
#2160 [21:04] <dudeltron14> then it starts minecraft without doing anything then when i try to load a world it just freezes
#2161 [21:04] <dudeltron14> :(
#2162 [21:04] <cestislife> Are you on windows?
#2163 [21:04] <dudeltron14> yes
#2164 [21:04] <cestislife> ??> dudeltron14 win/reins
#2165 [21:04] <Gone_Ralex> ??> dudeltron14 win/reinst
#2166 [21:04] <VoxelHead> dudeltron14: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2167 [21:04] <cestislife> oh
#2168 [21:04] <VoxelHead> dudeltron14: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2169 [21:04] <Gone_Ralex> cestislife, ctcp ftw
#2170 [21:04] <cestislife> I missed the t
#2171 [21:04] <cestislife> shet
#2172 [21:05] <dudeltron14> thanks
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#2176 [21:09] <dudeltron14> my game almost loads all the way then stops
#2177 [21:09] <Georgedepinedo> I'm having a problem logging to minecraft, it says Updating minecraft, done loading and the green bar does not move from 90%
#2178 [21:10] <dudeltron14> exactly
#2179 [21:10] <dudeltron14> my problem
#2180 [21:11] <Georgedepinedo> I've been told by the MC patcher to delete the minecraft.jar from appdata/bin folder, so I did and here I am...
#2181 [21:11] <cestislife> Both of you, force update
#2182 [21:11] <cestislife> ?? forceupdate
#2183 [21:11] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2184 [21:11] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2185 [21:11] <Georgedepinedo> oh, and download it back from the site, so I did as well and nothing
#2186 [21:12] <Georgedepinedo> oh, I'll try that
#2187 [21:12] <dudeltron14> yeah i tried to force update, i tried to run the game after i deleted everything exept the saves file and still no beans.
#2188 [21:13] <Georgedepinedo> mine is retrieving the files
#2189 [21:13] <Georgedepinedo> now has the Mojang logo and is "not responding"
#2190 [21:14] <Georgedepinedo> it finally responded and is probably working
#2191 [21:14] <Georgedepinedo> thank you very much///
#2192 [21:14] <dudeltron14> im still stuck
#2193 [21:15] <Georgedepinedo> yes, confirmed working
#2194 [21:16] <Georgedepinedo> dudeltron, you may need to erase all the minecraft.jar and 12wsomething.jar from appdata/Roaming/.minecraft/bin
#2195 [21:16] <dudeltron14> i deleted everything exept for the saves.
#2196 [21:16] <Georgedepinedo> then force update, I do not know if this would do any good, but that's what I did
#2197 [21:17] <dudeltron14> it wont force updateat all!!!!!!!
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#2199 [21:17] <dudeltron14> update*
#2200 [21:18] <Georgedepinedo> delete the launcher and download it back from the site, try that if you have not...
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#2203 [21:19] <buck> i log in and it wont let me play it tells me to try again or play offline please help us
#2204 [21:20] <Georgedepinedo> it happened to me back in the day, you may need to play offline for today and maybe tomorro or in a couple days will be back
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#2207 [21:22] <winner> how do you download mods
#2208 [21:23] <cestislife> ??> winner mods
#2209 [21:23] <VoxelHead> winner: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2210 [21:23] <VoxelHead> winner: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#2212 [21:23] <buck> ijl
#2213 [21:24] <tyteen4a03> !seen winner
#2214 [21:24] <GreyBot> I last saw winner (webchat@c-67-177-232-51.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 41secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying: Client Quit
#2215 [21:24] <tyteen4a03> !help seen
#2216 [21:24] <tyteen4a03> cestislife, he's been here 10 or more times I bet
#2217 [21:24] <Gone_Ralex> i've seen him before
#2218 [21:24] <cestislife> Now that you mentioned it.
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#2226 [21:32] <buck> how do i change my username and password
#2227 [21:33] <tyteen4a03> buck, once you set your Minecraft username, you cannot change it
#2228 [21:33] <TheWyatt2012> you can only change your password
#2229 [21:33] <tyteen4a03> buck, you can change your password by going to https://account.mojang.com/me/settings
#2230 [21:33] <tyteen4a03> (how I managed to remember that will remain a myth)
#2231 [21:33] <buck> how do i change my password
#2232 [21:34] <tyteen4a03> buck, you can change your password by going to https://account.mojang.com/me/settings
#2233 [21:34] <tyteen4a03> or more precisely, https://account.mojang.com/me/settings/password
#2234 [21:36] <buck> i did that but the email i used was hacked and had to change my email
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#2236 [21:36] <tyteen4a03> buck, can you access your account?
#2237 [21:37] <buck> how
#2238 [21:37] <tyteen4a03> buck, can you log into your account right now?
#2239 [21:37] <buck> i could but it says try again or play off line
#2240 [21:38] <tyteen4a03> buck, what does the red text say?
#2241 [21:38] <buck> play off line or try again
#2242 [21:38] <tyteen4a03> buck, no, what does the text next to the two buttons say?
#2243 [21:38] <BrickViking> can you log into minecraft.net with a browser?
#2244 [21:39] <BrickViking> ... using those same username and password?
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#2246 [21:40] <buck> login failed
#2247 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> buck, I take that Minecraft has worked before?
#2248 [21:40] <buck> it has ive been playing for awhile
#2249 [21:41] <tyteen4a03> buck, can you log into http://account.mojang.com/me with your Mojang account email and password successfully?
#2250 [21:41] <gotfire> hello, I just bought minecraft , and downloaded it on my OC , but it dosent seem that I have downloaded it correctly,
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#2253 [21:41] <gotfire> meant on my PC
#2254 [21:42] <tyteen4a03> gotfire, why would you say that?
#2255 [21:43] <gotfire> when I click on the donload to run , it apeares that it is acking me what version I want , I click on 1.5 , nothing happnes, is there a phone numbe ri can call to get tech help
#2256 [21:43] <TheWyatt2012> check your download folder?
#2257 [21:44] <BrickViking> ... that doesn't sound right.
#2258 [21:44] <TheWyatt2012> there's no phone number to call
#2259 [21:44] <BrickViking> gotfire: did you go to www.minecraft.net/download ?
#2260 [21:44] <tyteen4a03> gotfire, what happens when you run Minecraft?
#2261 [21:44] <buck> no i cant
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#2263 [21:45] <gotfire> I did , that is where I am clicking , then a screen comes up with a login at the bottom , I try to login but it says login failed, but the user name and password are correct , they work on Minecraft.net
#2264 [21:45] <tyteen4a03> buck, your account seems to be stuck in a weird dimension - send an email to Mojang with your Transaction ID and your Mojang Email/Minecraft username
#2265 [21:45] <tyteen4a03> ??> buck mojang/email
#2266 [21:45] <VoxelHead> buck: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2267 [21:45] <gotfire> yes that us where I loaded it from
#2268 [21:46] <tyteen4a03> gotfire, you need to use your Mojang account email
#2269 [21:47] <buck> i cant get my transaction id because my email was hacked
#2270 [21:47] <tyteen4a03> buck, it should be on your PayPal transaction history
#2271 [21:47] <tyteen4a03> buck, unless that's hacked as well... then try the last 4 digits
#2272 [21:47] <gotfire> Humm , mojang email? I dont have that
#2273 [21:47] <tyteen4a03> last 4 digits of your Credit Card
#2274 [21:48] <tyteen4a03> gotfire, your Mojang account email is the email you used to sign up for Minecraft
#2275 [21:48] <gotfire> then something is not right with the download. I will try and start over.
#2276 [21:49] <tyteen4a03> gotfire, did you receive an email asking you to set up a Minecraft profile name?
#2277 [21:49] <gotfire> I can login to mincraft.net no problem.
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#2279 [21:49] <gotfire> let me see,
#2280 [21:50] <tyteen4a03> gotfire, use whatever detail you used to log into minecraft.net as the login for Minecraft launcher as well
#2281 [21:50] <BrickViking> i.e. myusername@myhostname.com and password
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#2283 [21:51] <angelfang> i need to file a crash report how do i do that
#2284 [21:51] <gotfire> I just saw the email for MOJANG all it said was to confirm that I was ok to recieve emails from them , that was the one I needed to create profile. Thanks for the help guys, I am sure it wont be the last time .
#2285 [21:52] <tyteen4a03> angelfang, paste the crash report on pastebin.com
#2286 [21:52] <tyteen4a03> ??> angelfang pastebin
#2287 [21:52] <VoxelHead> angelfang: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2288 [21:52] <angelfang> thank u
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#2294 [21:55] <MestreLion> Hi there! I'm a newbie that has just discovered minecraft a few days ago, and trying to slowly learn bit by bit. I'm trying to understand how enemies and animals spawn in a survival, single player (offline) game.. I'm following http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Spawn but it uses a very advanced language, so i'll post a few questions to see if I understood the concepts correctly
#2295 [21:57] <MestreLion> "Animal spawning" and "Mod spawning" sections use the term "generated chunk" very often. When a chunk is "generated"? Only once, at world creating time, or everytime you exit and re-enter the game? or when you move away very far and come back ?
#2296 [21:57] <TheWyatt2012> chunks are generated when the world is created
#2297 [21:58] <MestreLion> meaning only once, no matter how much you die, or exit and reload, correct?
#2298 [21:58] <TheWyatt2012> yes
#2299 [21:58] * BrickViking blinks.
#2299 [21:59] <BrickViking> I thought chunks only got generated when players got close enough to trigger a load-from-server...
#2300 [21:59] <TheWyatt2012> that could be
#2301 [21:59] <TheWyatt2012> I'm not entirely sure
#2302 [21:59] <TheWyatt2012> but
#2303 [22:00] <TheWyatt2012> either way they generate
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#2307 [22:05] <sword_man_007> we are unable to download minecraft recently purchased.
#2308 [22:05] <tyteen4a03> sword_man_007, what error are you getting?
#2309 [22:06] <MestreLion> what about trees? if no seeding is done, will chopped trees re-grow?
#2310 [22:06] <sword_man_007> the download was bad and recommends we send to trash
#2311 [22:06] <tyteen4a03> ??> sword_man_007 mac/gatekeeper/disable
#2312 [22:06] <VoxelHead> sword_man_007: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#2313 [22:08] <MestreLion> for example... I chop all trees near my spawn, move away to explore, eventually die. Will the tress be back at same (or similar) place?
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#2315 [22:08] <Gone_Ralex> MestreLion, trees will only grow back if you plant a sapling
#2316 [22:08] <Gone_Ralex> so they won't just appear
#2317 [22:09] <MestreLion> I never planted a sapling, and even after playings hours and hours straight (ssp, offline), I've never run out of trees in the forest nearby my spawn, how come?
#2318 [22:10] <TheWyatt2012> because there are so many
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#2320 [22:10] <Lord_Ralex> MestreLion, they don't grow unless you plant a sapling
#2321 [22:10] <MestreLion> I assumed my death would "reset" the trees
#2322 [22:10] <TheWyatt2012> when they say forest they mean forest
#2323 [22:10] <TheWyatt2012> it does not
#2324 [22:10] <Lord_Ralex> no, it does not
#2325 [22:10] <MestreLion> so unless I plant, a dead tree is dead for good?
#2326 [22:11] <TheWyatt2012> yes
#2327 [22:11] <MestreLion> ouch
#2328 [22:11] <TheWyatt2012> you can just replant it
#2329 [22:12] <MestreLion> I guess I know why I've run out of cows
#2330 [22:12] <TheWyatt2012> already said that cows respawn
#2331 [22:13] <MestreLion> that "mob cap" of 11 animals is per a 240x240 block area, correct?
#2332 [22:13] <MestreLion> so if there are more than 11 animals in a give 240x240 area, no new animals will spawn there unless I kill them, yes?
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#2334 [22:14] <TheWyatt2012> that's the spawn rate
#2335 [22:14] <TheWyatt2012> and it's 15 in 240x240
#2336 [22:14] <MestreLion> maybe there are 11 chicken, and those chicken are preventing cows to spawn, is that possible?
#2337 [22:14] <TheWyatt2012> no
#2338 [22:15] <TheWyatt2012> otherwise it would interfere with breeding
#2339 [22:15] <TheWyatt2012> at least, it shouldn't
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#2341 [22:15] <MestreLion> I mean spawning "spontaneously", no breeding involved
#2342 [22:16] <MestreLion> (specially because I need a pair of cows to bree, and I can't find *any*, let alone a pair :P
#2343 [22:16] <TheWyatt2012> there can be up to 70 if I'm looking at it right
#2344 [22:16] <TheWyatt2012> in the 240x240 area
#2345 [22:16] <MestreLion> 70?
#2346 [22:16] <TheWyatt2012> yes
#2347 [22:16] <TheWyatt2012> 240x240 is large
#2348 [22:17] <TheWyatt2012> hmm not 15
#2349 [22:17] <MestreLion> where are you looking? I'm following that table after "In single player mode, the chunk count is 17x17 = 289, and the caps work out to:"
#2350 [22:17] <TheWyatt2012> wait nevermind
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#2352 [22:17] <TheWyatt2012> I'm looking at hostile
#2353 [22:18] <TheWyatt2012> yeah 11 I suppose
#2354 [22:19] <MestreLion> so if there are 11 chicken+pigs in that forest (i didn't count, but 240 x 240 seems reasonable for what the forest nearby my spawn seems to be), then n cows will ever apeear there, correct?
#2355 [22:20] <MestreLion> I have to kill them all for the "dice" to be rolled again, I guess
#2356 [22:21] <TheWyatt2012> something like that
#2357 [22:21] <TheWyatt2012> but they can despawn on their own
#2358 [22:21] <TheWyatt2012> if they move out of range
#2359 [22:21] <MestreLion> but animals don't despawn
#2360 [22:22] <TheWyatt2012> "However, mobs that move farther than 128 blocks from any player will immediately despawn (see Despawning), so the mob spawning area is effectively limited to spheres with a radius of 128 blocks, centered at each player."
#2361 [22:23] <TheWyatt2012> I'm assuming that applies to all mobs
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#2363 [22:23] <MestreLion> Unlike monsters, animals do not spontaneously despawn, except for wild ocelots and wolves (which can despawn only when they are hostile).
#2364 [22:24] <MestreLion> not sure if that info is correct and/or outdated
#2365 [22:24] <TheWyatt2012> then you answered your own question
#2366 [22:25] <TheWyatt2012> not outdated, I'm just not 100% on everything
#2367 [22:25] <TheWyatt2012> I don't pay much attention to spawn rates because the only reason you'd need to is if you're building some kind of mob trap
#2368 [22:26] <MestreLion> but i'm not sure if I'm interpreting the text correctly... as I said, that pages delves in very complex and technical details, so its easy to misinterpret
#2369 [22:26] <TheWyatt2012> I'd just suggest playing the game and stop worrying so much about the minor details
#2370 [22:26] <TheWyatt2012> lol
#2371 [22:26] <TheWyatt2012> especially if you're new
#2372 [22:26] <MestreLion> i was doing so... played for like 14 hours straight, and had tons of fun
#2373 [22:27] <MestreLion> then I noticed all cows were gone
#2374 [22:27] <TheWyatt2012> roll of the dice
#2375 [22:27] <MestreLion> so I began to worry about non-reneable resources
#2376 [22:27] <TheWyatt2012> they don't spawn as commonly
#2377 [22:27] <TheWyatt2012> again rely on farms for food and ores for armor
#2378 [22:28] <MestreLion> things like gather 40+ iron ores and getting killed in lava
#2379 [22:28] <MestreLion> or gathering 6 x 64 wood/stone/etc and then died very deep somewhere I can't remember
#2380 [22:29] <TheWyatt2012> be wary of your surroundings
#2381 [22:29] <TheWyatt2012> and it only takes ~20 for armor
#2382 [22:30] <MestreLion> So I started to worry about this behavior of "gathing a bunch of materials and dieying in inaccesible areas", specially since I learned that items not recoverd in 30 secs (or 5 min ,whatever) is lost forever
#2383 [22:30] <MestreLion> and I died a *lot* of times, sometimes carrying *tons* of equipment, in places I didn't go back in time
#2384 [22:32] <MestreLion> so my actions made a *huuuge* amount of wood and cobblestone (+1000 each) to vanish from the world (by dyeing)
#2385 [22:33] <MestreLion> and also iron, meat, seeds, eggs, arrows, coal, that I lose some each time I die
#2386 [22:35] <MestreLion> I'll reset the world next time I play, and I will be more cautious this time not to die and lose material, but I began to research which actions will have a permanent effect on the world
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#2389 [22:36] <dirtybutler> i have a pupper noob question. how do i make my block dude eat?
#2390 [22:37] <Lord_Ralex> hold food, then hold down the right mouse key
#2391 [22:37] <Lord_Ralex> you can only eat when the food bar is not full
#2392 [22:37] <MestreLion> it took me a looooong time to find that one also :P
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#2394 [22:38] <dirtybutler> thank you, i ws going crazy! lol
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#2396 [22:40] <MestreLion> about crafting: was the game intended for players to discover crafting recipes on their own? or we are *supposed* to read them in a wiki or something?
#2397 [22:41] <Lord_Ralex> MestreLion, you can discover them, but using the wikii is easier
#2398 [22:41] <BrickViking> well, both apply, of course.
#2399 [22:41] <BrickViking> but yes, Ralex is correct.
#2400 [22:41] <Lord_Ralex> if you don't want to deal with the guessing and discovery, you can just use the wiki
#2401 [22:42] <BrickViking> frankly the guessing gets frustrating.
#2402 [22:42] <MestreLion> I saw sticks, sword and pick in a video, and I assumed they were "spoilers".. then I was able to discover axe on my own, chest too, and the "chievements" section gives a good hint on furnaces... what about the others? are there further hints in achievements?
#2403 [22:42] <BrickViking> ... not exactly.
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#2405 [22:43] <BrickViking> head off to http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Items
#2406 [22:43] <BrickViking> and Tools, and Weapons
#2407 [22:43] <BrickViking> ... but I suspect that Items will be your first port of call.
#2408 [22:43] <MestreLion> I wish there was at least a hint saying which items are *craftable*
#2409 [22:44] <BrickViking> most of them are... in fact mostly anything you can manhandle is probably craftable
#2410 [22:44] <MestreLion> so I didn't have to die a 1000 times fighting skeletons to get a bow :P
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#2412 [22:45] <BrickViking> three string, three sticks.
#2413 [22:45] <MestreLion> ang guessing the recipe is much easier when you have the assurance that such item *is* craftable :P
#2414 [22:45] <BrickViking> and sticks are got from planks, which are got by logs.
#2415 [22:45] <BrickViking> Punch a tree for a log.
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#2417 [22:45] <MestreLion> yeah, I have strings too... drop from spiders I guess
#2418 [22:45] <BrickViking> there are two crafting grids. One you can carry around with you (of 2x2)
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#2420 [22:46] <BrickViking> and one of 3x3 you have to make by putting four planks into the four squares of your crafting grid.
#2421 [22:46] <BrickViking> THAT makes a workbench (crafting bench/table)
#2422 [22:46] <MestreLion> yes, I got that one too.. btw, are there larger tables?
#2423 [22:47] <MestreLion> or that 3x3 workbench is all there is?
#2424 [22:48] <MestreLion> (I know those are kind of stupid questions, but it will allow me *not* read wiki for spoilers while not driving me insane try to make impossible things either
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#2426 [22:50] <sword_man_007> help!!!!!!!!!!!! purchased product, now unable to use it. wont download
#2427 [22:52] <BrickViking> that 3x3 table can allow for all the items that are made.
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#2429 [22:53] <DBAZ> had a mincraft crash on this new laptop. can anyone diagnose a crash report for me?
#2430 [22:53] <BrickViking> ... and given the large number of combinable items... that's a lot of things
#2431 [22:54] <Lord_Ralex> DBAZ, can you pastebin the crash report?
#2432 [22:54] <DBAZ> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
#2433 [22:54] <Lord_Ralex> ??> DBAZ pastebin
#2434 [22:54] <VoxelHead> DBAZ: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2435 [22:55] <DBAZ> willdo.
#2436 [22:55] <DBAZ> willdo.
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#2438 [22:56] <DBAZ> does this look like the right URL? http://pastebin.com/bJD9PvHN
#2439 [22:56] <Lord_Ralex> yep
#2440 [22:56] <tyteen4a03> DBAZ, seems so
#2441 [22:57] <tyteen4a03> DBAZ, are you using a texture pack?
#2442 [22:57] <DBAZ> No
#2443 [22:57] <Lord_Ralex> ??> DBAZ win/dxdiag/bat
#2444 [22:57] <VoxelHead> DBAZ: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#2445 [22:57] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, skip it
#2446 [22:57] <VoxelHead> DBAZ: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#2447 [22:57] <tyteen4a03> ??> DBAZ gpu/intel
#2448 [22:57] <VoxelHead> DBAZ: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2449 [22:57] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, outofmem error?
#2450 [22:57] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, you wanted Intel GPU driver update didn't you
#2451 [22:57] <Lord_Ralex> no
#2452 [22:58] <Lord_Ralex> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread
#2453 [22:58] <Lord_Ralex> runs out of memory
#2454 [22:58] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, also 32bit
#2455 [22:58] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, i see that :P
#2456 [22:58] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, how I love we work overefficiently
#2457 [23:00] <DBAZ> sorry guys...I'm new to soe of this technical stuff...can you clarify the recommndation(s) for me?
#2458 [23:00] <Lord_Ralex> ??> DBAZ win/dxdiag/bat
#2459 [23:00] <VoxelHead> DBAZ: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#2460 [23:00] <VoxelHead> DBAZ: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#2461 [23:00] <Lord_Ralex> Follow the directions by voxelhead so we can see what has to be done
#2462 [23:00] <DBAZ> will do
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#2464 [23:04] <guest> got a message that says minecraft crashed after updating
#2465 [23:05] <Lord_Ralex> ??> guest mac/10.5/mc1.5
#2466 [23:05] <VoxelHead> guest: (mac/10.5/mc1.5) Minecraft 1.5 currently does not work with Mac OSX Version 10.5 or lower. This is a known bug and will be fixed soon.
#2467 [23:05] <VoxelHead> guest: (mac/10.5/mc1.5) In the meantime, you have 3 options: 1. Upgrade to Mac OSX 10.7 or later (Mac OSX 10.6 has problems), 2. Downgrade to 1.4.7 (See ?? downgrade/1.4.7), or 3. Wait for 1.5.1 to come out
#2468 [23:05] <guest> thanks
#2469 [23:05] <DBAZ> DxDiag content at http://pastebin.com/uGefpScK
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#2471 [23:07] <tyteen4a03> 4GB, as I guessed
#2472 [23:07] <dirtybutler> how do i heal my self?
#2473 [23:08] <DBAZ> is 4GB too weak?
#2474 [23:08] <tyteen4a03> dirtybutler, by eating cooked food or by turning down your difficulty to peaceful
#2475 [23:08] <tyteen4a03> DBAZ, since you're on a 32bit system, all the system can use is 3.2GB
#2476 [23:08] <DBAZ> I have 64 bit Win 8.
#2477 [23:08] <MestreLion> dirtybutler: eat food until your food meter is >= 8 meat, it will then regenerate your health
#2478 [23:09] <BrickViking> ... or does it require nine meat?
#2479 [23:09] <DBAZ> but, the RAM is shared to the video.
#2480 [23:09] <Lord_Ralex> DBAZ, then install Java 64-bit
#2481 [23:09] <BrickViking> as in, not 8 1/2?
#2482 [23:09] <dirtybutler> ok,awsome! thank you
#2483 [23:09] <MestreLion> yes, 8 or 9, i'm not sure
#2484 [23:09] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, you're installing 64bit stuff on a 32bit system?
#2485 [23:09] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, read the dxdiag
#2486 [23:09] <tyteen4a03> oh
#2487 [23:10] <DBAZ> I was looking at that, but having a hard time getting 64 bit Java since Explorer is 32 bit
#2488 [23:10] <Lord_Ralex> although
#2489 [23:10] <tyteen4a03> java crash log y u lie to me
#2490 [23:10] <tyteen4a03> DBAZ, you should be using the standalone launcher
#2491 [23:10] <Lord_Ralex> DBAZ, http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#2492 [23:10] <DBAZ> standalone launcher?
#2493 [23:11] <Lord_Ralex> DBAZ, the exe of Minecraft
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#2495 [23:12] <DBAZ> That java link shows an offline Java version. will that work better with the exe?
#2496 [23:12] <Lord_Ralex> DBAZ, you want to download and run the offline java installer for the Java 64-bit
#2497 [23:12] <Lord_Ralex> that installs Java 64bit onto your computer
#2498 [23:13] <Lord_Ralex> so any Java application (including Minecraft) will use it
#2499 [23:13] <Lord_Ralex> once you do that, tell me, since i do want to see about something else
#2500 [23:14] <DBAZ> ok...think i got it. looks like with my 32 bit browser, java wants to default to 32 bit download...if I select the 64 bit version it'll support the minecraft.exe....is that right?
#2501 [23:14] <Lord_Ralex> DBAZ, correct
#2502 [23:14] <DBAZ> will do.
#2503 [23:15] <DBAZ> installed
#2504 [23:15] <Lord_Ralex> okay
#2505 [23:15] <Lord_Ralex> right click the Taskbar and select open task manager
#2506 [23:15] <DBAZ> done
#2507 [23:15] <Lord_Ralex> select "performance"
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#2509 [23:16] <DBAZ> k
#2510 [23:16] <Lord_Ralex> what does it say under "Memory"?
#2511 [23:16] <DBAZ> 1/7/3.9GB
#2512 [23:16] <Lord_Ralex> good
#2513 [23:16] <Lord_Ralex> okay
#2514 [23:16] <DBAZ> 1.7/3.9
#2515 [23:16] <Lord_Ralex> run Minecraft now
#2516 [23:17] <Lord_Ralex> see if the Java 64bit helps
#2517 [23:17] <DBAZ> will do
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#2519 [23:30] <DBAZ> seems to be fine now. no video glitches that i was seeing before the crash. you guys rock. Thanks!
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#2523 [23:34] <hlepme> i cant download minecraft on to my computer can u help me
#2524 [23:34] <hlepme> anyone help me
#2525 [23:34] <TheWyatt2012> what's the issue
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#2527 [23:35] <hlepme> when u try to download it onto my computer it says that its trash and would not let me continue
#2528 [23:35] <hlepme> it delwats the flie
#2529 [23:36] <hlepme> hello
#2530 [23:36] <Lord_Ralex> ??> hlepme mac/gatekeeper/disable
#2531 [23:36] <VoxelHead> hlepme: (mac/gatekeeper/disable) If the right-click->Open trick does not work, disable Gatekeeper entirely. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#2532 [23:36] <hlepme> ok thanks
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#2540 [23:52] <ZODAC821> HI GUYS?
#2541 [23:53] <BrickViking> woo hoo. I managed to join my own alpha server.
#2542 [23:53] <ZODAC821> Guys, for some reason i am not able to use minecraft when i download the new minecraft version. For some reason.
#2543 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> ??> ZODAC821 mac/10.5/mc1.5
#2544 [23:54] <VoxelHead> ZODAC821: (mac/10.5/mc1.5) Minecraft 1.5 currently does not work with Mac OSX Version 10.5 or lower. This is a known bug and will be fixed soon.
#2545 [23:54] <VoxelHead> ZODAC821: (mac/10.5/mc1.5) In the meantime, you have 3 options: 1. Upgrade to Mac OSX 10.7 or later (Mac OSX 10.6 has problems), 2. Downgrade to 1.4.7 (See ?? downgrade/1.4.7), or 3. Wait for 1.5.1 to come out
#2546 [23:54] <ZODAC821> Thank you for the help.
#2547 [23:54] <ZODAC821> It will be fixed soon right?
#2548 [23:54] <cestislife> Soon, yes
#2549 [23:55] <ZODAC821> Cause i was gonna get a minecraft server of my own and i thought i did it wrong
#2550 [23:55] <ZODAC821> then
#2551 [23:55] <MestreLion> question: I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, 64 bits. Registered in minefrat website, but didn't pay (yet). Downloaded and executed minecraft.jar, but it always says "login failed". Is that because I didn't pay?
#2552 [23:55] <Lord_Ralex> yes
#2553 [23:56] <MestreLion> But "Login Failed" is quite misleading, since I do have an account, with login and password working in miecraft website
#2554 [23:56] <cestislife> Yes, it is misleading
#2555 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> MestreLion - Yes it is, but it applies in your case.
#2556 [23:56] <ZODAC821> Thank You cest is life for you're help.
#2557 [23:56] <cestislife> Which is why there will be a new launcher coming 1.6
#2558 [23:57] <ZODAC821> Thank You, Cest for you're help cause i was wondering why.
#2559 [23:57] <ZODAC821> I'll try to see what i'm able to do to fix it..
#2560 [23:57] <MestreLion> oh, ok... I assumed it was something wrong with my java install (i've read many tutorials that says you can't use java 7, some that can't use openjdk, some says updating lw-something library is required, etc etc
#2561 [23:58] <ZODAC821> Well, thank you guy's for you're help good night.
#2562 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> MestreLion - Nope. There's several main reasons why a user gets a login failed error message. Not having minecraft paid for is one of them