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#3 [00:03] <sketchman1981> I can't find the error reporting system?
#4 [00:04] <sketchman1981> Hello?
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#13 [00:36] <DavidC> Can somebody help me figure out why my minecraft is broken since the 1.5.1 update
#14 [00:36] <cestislife> It works fine for me.
#15 [00:36] <cestislife> Do you have a crash log?
#16 [00:36] <DavidC> http://pastebin.com/yBWpXMCK
#17 [00:37] <Lord_Ralex> Is Modded: Very likely; Jar signature invalidated
#18 [00:37] <cestislife> You have mods, most mods are not updated to 1.5.1 yet.
#19 [00:37] <cestislife> ??> DavidC forceupdate
#20 [00:37] <VoxelHead> DavidC: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#21 [00:37] <VoxelHead> DavidC: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#22 [00:37] <cestislife> This should clear them out.
#23 [00:37] <cestislife> Please be reminded that mods needs to be updated before you can use them, as they're currently very version specific.
#24 [00:38] <DavidC> only mod I had was SPC and that had never given me any problems after updates
#25 [00:38] <Lord_Ralex> DavidC, it is now
#26 [00:38] <DavidC> I'm forcing update
#27 [00:39] <Lord_Ralex> and it is not 1.5.1 yet
#28 [00:39] <DiskDaemon> DavidC: Mods are not supported here. Please remove all mods before continuing with support. It's the only effective way or assistance to be given
#29 [00:39] <DiskDaemon> *for
#30 [00:39] <DavidC> That seems to have worked
#31 [00:39] <DavidC> i thought i had disabled mods
#32 [00:40] <DavidC> but the force update worked. thank you
#33 [00:41] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#40 [01:01] <Saydin__> !login
#41 [01:02] <Saydin__> !paid Saydin
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#44 [01:08] <Bugboy1028> !login
#45 [01:08] <Bugboy1028> !paid $
#46 [01:08] <Bugboy1028> !paid Obama
#47 [01:09] <skymoy> !paid thing
#48 [01:09] <tyteen4a03> Bugboy1028, use existing accounts please
#49 [01:10] <Bugboy1028> Fine, ms.ruiner :3
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#53 [01:20] <DavidC> !paid jdc1col
#54 [01:21] <DavidC> !paid capote
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#60 [01:36] <BrickViking> quick question about texture packs. How well does vanilla handle non-x16 texture packs?
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#62 [01:36] <tyteen4a03> BrickViking, 1.5 - not very well
#63 [01:37] <tyteen4a03> BrickViking, 1.4 or below: no support
#64 [01:37] <BrickViking> and 1.5.1?
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#66 [01:37] <tyteen4a03> BrickViking, still not very well
#67 [01:37] <tyteen4a03> BrickViking, current problem is memory leak
#68 [01:38] <BrickViking> ah.
#69 [01:38] <BrickViking> what if I added uhm.... Optifine?
#70 [01:38] * Ryladine_ is now known as Ryladine
#71 [01:39] <BrickViking> (assuming that there's a later version than 1.5.0)
#72 [01:39] <Bugboy1028> MCPatcher is better
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#74 [01:39] <tyteen4a03> BrickViking, probably not
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#76 [01:39] <BrickViking> Bugboy1028: I have other issues with mcpatcher.
#77 [01:40] <Bugboy1028> sh
#78 [01:40] <Bugboy1028> Optifine then
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#81 [01:42] <maeleon> Hello, could anybody give me the minecraft.jar file for version 1.4.7?
#82 [01:42] <Bugboy1028> let me guess, Mac?
#83 [01:42] <maeleon> yessir
#84 [01:43] <BrickViking> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_7/minecraft.jar
#85 [01:43] <Bugboy1028> ?? downgrade/1.4.7
#86 [01:43] <VoxelHead> downgrade/1.4.7: To downgrade minecraft to version 1.4.7, first download this file: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_7/minecraft.jar
#87 [01:43] <VoxelHead> downgrade/1.4.7: Once you have downloaded it, move it to the bin folder and overwrite the existing file there. (To find the bin folder, see win/.minecraft, mac/.minecraft, or linux/.minecraft)
#88 [01:43] <tyteen4a03> Bugboy1028, webchat responds to CTCP VERSION with system information
#89 [01:43] <BrickViking> so there we are. Even complete instructions! how's that?
#90 [01:43] <tyteen4a03> ??>> BrickViking bot/help
#91 [01:43] <Bugboy1028> Ah.
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#93 [01:43] <maeleon> thank you
#94 [01:44] <Bugboy1028> I got index tabbed
#95 [01:44] <Bugboy1028> :
#96 [01:44] <BrickViking> I wasn't able to remember the previous botcommand.
#97 [01:44] <BrickViking> ?? BrickViking
#98 [01:44] <BrickViking> ?? bot/help
#99 [01:44] <VoxelHead> bot/help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#100 [01:44] <VoxelHead> bot/help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#101 [01:44] <tyteen4a03> ??< win/speedfan
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#103 [01:46] <tyteen4a03> ??~ win/speedfan|Speedfan is an utility program that monitors your Temperature, Fan Speed and Voltages of your CPU, GPU and HDD in real time. It also provides model number so it is very useful for troubleshooting.;;Download here: http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php
#104 [01:48] <tyteen4a03> .help
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#126 [02:49] <Rowyc> Hey, i have played on a server for a while now, i have donated 50 $, But last night it stood " Cant resolve host name, i have friends from other countrys that isgetting in?
#127 [02:49] <Rowyc> is getting<*
#128 [02:49] <Andrio> what address?
#129 [02:49] <Rowyc> Pvp.gontroller.com
#130 [02:50] <Rowyc> Their site online is -Gontroller.com
#131 [02:51] <cestislife> !check pvp.gontroller.com
#132 [02:51] <cestislife> The server seems to be down.
#133 [02:51] <Rowyc> That's weird, my friends got in? ;/
#134 [02:51] <Andrio> It resolves though.
#135 [02:52] <Andrio> [17:52:51] @Angelina: pvp.gontroller.com resolves to 198.12.14.76, 199.83.49.246, 199.83.50.227.
#136 [02:52] <cestislife> !check 198.12.14.76
#137 [02:52] <cestislife> !check 199.83.49.246
#138 [02:52] <cestislife> !check 199.83.50.227
#139 [02:52] <cestislife> wat.
#140 [02:53] <cestislife> All 3 Ip works.
#141 [02:53] <cestislife> They're definitely servers.
#142 [02:53] <Rowyc> OMG, so thanksfull.
#143 [02:53] <Rowyc> Thanks guys!
#144 [02:53] <Rowyc> It worked.
#145 [02:53] <Rowyc> ;9
#146 [02:53] <Andrio> the IP worked?
#147 [02:54] <Rowyc> Yes
#148 [02:54] <cestislife> All 3 of the IPs work.
#149 [02:54] <Rowyc> Thanks
#150 [02:54] <Andrio> :-)
#151 [02:54] <Rowyc> So thanksfull, u saved my day
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#153 [02:55] <cestislife> Andrio: I assume Angelina is someone else and not a bot?
#154 [02:55] <Andrio> No, she's my bot.
#155 [02:55] <danisawesome> hi
#156 [02:56] <cestislife> Hello.
#157 [02:56] <cestislife> Andrio: Ah, cool, nice tool.
#158 [02:56] <Andrio> Hi :-)
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#160 [03:01] <danisawesome> how u make a server free
#161 [03:02] <cestislife> Set one up at home.
#162 [03:03] <danisawesome> ?
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#164 [03:03] <DiskDaemon> danisawesome: Would you like instructions on how to set up your own minecraft server?
#165 [03:04] <danisawesome> yes
#166 [03:04] <DiskDaemon> danisawesome: See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
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#189 [04:34] <xpoison2> hello?
#190 [04:36] <ryladine> Hello
#191 [04:36] <ryladine> Do you need something?
#192 [04:37] <xpoison2> y when i goto minecraft.net and i want to change my skin it brings me to minecraft.net/challenge?
#193 [04:38] <ryladine> How exactly are you trying to change it on the site?
#194 [04:38] <ryladine> Browse, then choose your skin, and press upload?
#195 [04:38] <xpoison2> i login with my info and it just redirects me
#196 [04:39] <xpoison2> and i dont know my email password or the answers its been so long
#197 [04:39] <xpoison2> and alls i need is to change my skin
#198 [04:39] <ryladine> Ah, so you're trying to login and its redirrecting you to try and confirm who you are.
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#200 [04:39] <xpoison2> ya
#201 [04:40] <xpoison2> answer help?
#202 [04:40] <xpoison2> any*
#203 [04:40] <Bugboy1028> Repeat your question
#204 [04:41] <xpoison2> y when i goto minecraft.net and i want to change my skin it brings me to minecraft.net/challenge?
#205 [04:41] <xpoison2> and i dont know my email password or the answers its been so long
#206 [04:41] <Lord_Ralex> xpoison2, you have to pass that challenge so that it knows that you are who you are saying you are
#207 [04:41] <xpoison2> ah
#208 [04:42] <xpoison2> is this new or something?
#209 [04:42] <ryladine> Caught me typing and getting a url XD
#210 [04:42] <Lord_Ralex> xpoison2, yes
#211 [04:42] <cestislife> implemented to protect your account.
#212 [04:42] <ryladine> If you don't know the details to the account you will probably have to contact mojang or find your way back into the email account.
#213 [04:43] <xpoison2> kk
#214 [04:43] <xpoison2> thanks for the help
#215 [04:43] <xpoison2> bye
#216 [04:43] <ryladine> One moment
#217 [04:43] <xpoison2> ?
#218 [04:43] <ryladine> http://help.mojang.com/
#219 [04:43] <xpoison2> thx
#220 [04:43] <ryladine> That url may be of use if you need try contacting mojang for assistance.
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#230 [05:19] <Fives> Is it bad to turn on Advanced
#231 [05:19] <Fives> oops
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#233 [05:19] <Fives> OpenGL on graphics cards that don't support it?
#234 [05:20] <DiskDaemon> It won't harm, but it won't help either
#235 [05:21] <cestislife> It basically does nothing.
#236 [05:21] <cestislife> If you do not have a card that supports it.
#237 [05:22] <Fevix|Fried> Don't you get an error, too>
#238 [05:22] <Fevix|Fried> *?
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#240 [05:22] <cestislife> I do not recall.
#241 [05:22] <cestislife> On my old PC with Intel Integrated graphics, it does nothing.
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#244 [05:40] <Fives> I'm hex editing the launcher to alocate the memory to 384 min and max, it works if I just edit the min value to and leave the max at 1024 but if I change the max it screws and gives me around 194. I think it has something to do with 384 and 512 both being 3 digits.
#245 [05:40] <Fives> Because I can change the 1024 to 1000.
#246 [05:40] <Fives> And probably any other 4 digit number.
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#248 [05:44] <BrickViking> now that WOULD be weird.
#249 [05:44] <BrickViking> Standard launcher?
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#252 [05:48] <Fives> Yes.
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#254 [05:56] <Fives> Using this guide. minecraftforum.net/topic/645785-fixed-exe-for-out-of-memory-problems/
#255 [05:57] <Fives> Sorry. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/645785-fixed-exe-for-out-of-memory-problems/
#256 [05:57] <BrickViking> ahh, you're using Windows...
#257 [05:58] <tyteen4a03> Fives, hex editing never leads to good results
#258 [05:58] <tyteen4a03> Fives, rather than hex-editing, just use the launcher jar
#259 [05:59] <Fives> What's the difference between the jar and the exe?
#260 [06:00] <Fives> Like, what's it have to do with ram allocation?
#261 [06:00] <tyteen4a03> Fives, nothing, except the exe can be only run on Windows while jar can be run from any OS that supports Java
#262 [06:00] <Fives> Then why do yiou suggest the jar?
#263 [06:00] <tyteen4a03> Fives, hex editing is dangerous
#264 [06:00] <BrickViking> And because the jar can literally be run anywhere.
#265 [06:00] <Fives> I don't have to hex edit my exe.
#266 [06:01] <tyteen4a03> 18<Fives> I'm hex editing the launcher
#267 [06:01] <Fives> And I have saved a copy of the original launcher.
#268 [06:01] <BrickViking> That IS the exe.
#269 [06:01] <BrickViking> minecraft.exe is the launcher for the minecraft.jar
#270 [06:02] <Fives> I know. I'm just saying, since I'm on windows it shouldn't matter which I use.
#271 [06:02] <BrickViking> (at least under Windows)...
#272 [06:03] <Fives> So you won't help me with this?
#273 [06:03] <tyteen4a03> Fives, we don't recommend (and won't support) hex-edited launchers, simply because there isn't a need to do so
#274 [06:03] <Fives> Ok.
#275 [06:03] <Fives> Why do they make the exe launcher availible?
#276 [06:03] <BrickViking> you can call that minecraft.exe from a batch file just like normal... i.e. java -Xms384M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#277 [06:03] <tyteen4a03> Fives, for Windows
#278 [06:03] <BrickViking> because it's a Windows binary that people love.
#279 [06:04] <Fives> Jar's work everywhere, as you said. Including on Windows.
#280 [06:04] <Fives> Why do people love Windows binarys?
#281 [06:04] <BrickViking> stuffed if I know. It's just the thing.
#282 [06:04] <tyteen4a03> Fives, because it won't require you to write commandline everytime you launch minecraft
#283 [06:05] <BrickViking> ... and there's that... at least for Windows
#284 [06:05] <Fives> What? Last time I checked the jar worked the same as the exe.
#285 [06:05] <Fives> Just run it.
#286 [06:05] <Fives> Double click it.
#287 [06:06] <tyteen4a03> Fives, that I am not sure
#288 [06:06] <tyteen4a03> never had the need to use jars before
#289 [06:06] <tyteen4a03> *launcher jars
#290 [06:07] <Fevix> tyteen4a03, Fives, you can always just make a .bat file to run the .jar, but I'm pretty sure I've run the .jar just by doubleclicking
#291 [06:07] <tyteen4a03> Fevix, I see
#292 [06:08] <Fives> Yeah, same.
#293 [06:08] <Fevix> But that still doesn't solve the problem on how to allocate more than 1GB of Ram to Minecraft.
#294 [06:08] <Fives> Or I could just use the exe...
#295 [06:08] <Fevix> Because allocating memory to the launcher doesnt' allocate it to Minecraft (Unless Minecraft runs as a sub-program of the launcher)
#296 [06:09] <Fives> I don't want to allocate more than 1GB.
#297 [06:09] <Fives> I think it does.
#298 [06:09] <Fives> I wan't to allocate less.
#299 [06:09] <Fevix> Fives: There should be no reason to allocate less.
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#301 [06:10] <Fives> When I hex edited it, and checked snooper settings (for the times it worked) jvm_arg[0] had chanegd.
#302 [06:11] <Fives> I was here just yesterday and people suggested allocating less.
#303 [06:11] <BrickViking> sigh.
#304 [06:11] <Fevix> But if you were to want to, you could use the .jar and use java -Xms256M -Xmx512M -jar minecraft.jar
#305 [06:11] <BrickViking> can you create a batch file?
#306 [06:11] <Fives> 384mb.
#307 [06:11] <Fevix> then use 384
#308 [06:11] <Fevix> But why do you want to allocate less?
#309 [06:11] <Fevix> that's what's confusing me.
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#311 [06:12] <BrickViking> someone muttered on an optifine thread that allocating no more than 384 Mb was all that was required. I don't know though.
#312 [06:12] <Fives> "By default java allocates insane amounts of memory (1GB?) which then gets swapped to disk and the overall performance suffers a lot."
#313 [06:12] <DiskDaemon> That's a true fact
#314 [06:12] <BrickViking> Anyhow, I'm out of here.. night from here.
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#316 [06:12] <DiskDaemon> 384MB is all that Minecraft needs. Add more for HD textures, add more for mods
#317 [06:12] <BrickViking> ahh, I see what they mean now.
#318 [06:13] <Fevix> Fives: one fix to that is to set your page file to 0
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#320 [06:13] <DiskDaemon> details can be found at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-24-1-updated-on-mar-14-2013/
#321 [06:13] <Fevix> Tell WIndows to allocate 0b for page, but this forces all programs to save their memory straight to Ram
#322 [06:14] <Fives> What exactly is teh page file?
#323 [06:15] <tyteen4a03> Fives, a file that uses your HDD as extended RAM
#324 [06:15] <DiskDaemon> The page file is "virtual memory" that's stored on the hard drive instead
#325 [06:15] <tyteen4a03> much slower than RAM but will provide extra support when needed
#326 [06:15] <DiskDaemon> bloody slow it is too, compared with actual memory
#327 [06:15] <Fives> Setting it to 0b doesn';t sound like a good idea/
#328 [06:15] <tyteen4a03> Fives, nope, especially on a 32bit XP like you do
#329 [06:16] <Fives> How does this help
#330 [06:16] <Fives> ?
#331 [06:16] <Fevix> It would help by preventing Windows from moving the Minecraft memory to hard disk, and keep it in Ram.
#332 [06:17] <Fevix> But as the others have pointed out, it's not a good idea.
#333 [06:17] <Fives> So how is it no a good idea?
#334 [06:17] <Fevix> Because it forces all programs to load into Ram.
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#336 [06:18] <Fevix> Which, being on a 32-bit system like you are, you don't have much of.
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#338 [06:18] <Fevix> 32-bit systems can only allocate, globally, 3GB of Ram maximum. Period. No ifs, ands, or buts.
#339 [06:18] <Fives> So the better option would be to allocate less ram to MinecrafT?
#340 [06:18] <Fevix> Yes.
#341 [06:19] <DiskDaemon> COrrect - Minecraft does better with less allocated ram than more
#342 [06:20] <Fevix> Then again, when you're on a beast of a machine and running 64-bit Windows and are still making sure not to run too much aalongside it, you don't really need that boost.
#343 [06:21] <Fives> Ok, I'll atempt to make a batch.
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#345 [06:22] <fribajsarn> Hi, when i log in to minecraft trough the launcher the window goes black...
#346 [06:23] <fribajsarn> Do you know whats wrong?
#347 [06:24] <DiskDaemon> ??> fribajsarn crashreport
#348 [06:24] <VoxelHead> fribajsarn: (crashreport) How to get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#352 [06:32] <Fives> Running this code:
#353 [06:32] <Fives> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe" -Xmx384M -server -Djava.library.path=bin/natives -cp bin/minecraft.jar;bin/jinput.jar;bin/lwjgl.jar;bin/lwjgl_util.jar net.minecraft.client.Minecraft Username Password
#354 [06:32] <Fives> Gives this error: Error: missing 'server' JVM at 'C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\server\jvm.dll'. Please install or use the JRE or JDK that contains these missing components.
#355 [06:32] <Fives> Sorry for the weird spaceing, I should I pastebin it?
#356 [06:32] <DiskDaemon> Fives: The -server part just provides more aggressive memory caching - you can do without it, or install JDK
#357 [06:33] <Fives> I have JDK/
#358 [06:33] <DiskDaemon> how odd then
#359 [06:33] <Fives> Yes... Is it not supported on XP?
#360 [06:34] <DiskDaemon> XP shouldn't factor in to the situation
#361 [06:34] <Fives> I tried changing -server to -client but connecting to servers gives bad login error.
#362 [06:34] <DiskDaemon> Fives: Get rid of the -server part
#363 [06:37] <Fives> Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine. Error: A fatal exception occured. Program Will exit.
#364 [06:37] <Fives> When removeing -server.
#365 [06:37] <DiskDaemon> Fives: You may need to reinstall the JDK software
#366 [06:37] <Fives> I already did that!
#367 [06:38] <Fives> For this same reason.
#368 [06:38] <DiskDaemon> Fives: It could not create the JVM. Can I see a dxdiag report?
#369 [06:38] <DiskDaemon> ??> Fives win/dxdiag
#370 [06:38] <VoxelHead> Fives: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#371 [06:38] <VoxelHead> Fives: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#372 [06:38] <tyteen4a03> Fives, your command points to JRE, which is not the same as the JDK
#373 [06:38] <tyteen4a03> Fives, the JRE does not provide the server VM (nor does JDK on 32bit systems, come to think of it)
#374 [06:39] <Fives> I reinstalled JRE and JDK last time.
#375 [06:39] <Fives> Hang on.
#376 [06:41] <Fives> http://pastebin.com/DckbQwQg
#377 [06:42] <Fives> There is no "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\server" by the way.
#378 [06:42] <Fives> For me.
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#380 [06:43] <DiskDaemon> Thanks - I don't see any common reason as to why the JVM cannot be created, but that server folder not being there is interesting
#381 [06:43] <Fives> Wait, maybe it's my environmental variables?
#382 [06:43] <DiskDaemon> Fives: Get the offline installer for Java 7, and install it from that
#383 [06:44] <Fives> I wait, there's still no server folder.
#384 [06:44] <Fives> I did.
#385 [06:44] <Fives> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html From there.
#386 [06:45] <DiskDaemon> What? From Oracle?
#387 [06:45] <DiskDaemon> Get it from here please - http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#388 [06:46] * DiskDaemon removes jre7 folder to test installing it from afresh
#388 [06:47] <DiskDaemon> yep, the bin/server folder is created at installation
#389 [06:47] <Fives> What's wrong with getting it from oracle?
#390 [06:47] <DiskDaemon> Fives: From what you've been experiencing - it's not the same as the one that works.
#391 [06:48] <Fives> Does it matter if I uninstall it with Revo Uninstaller?
#392 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> no
#393 [06:49] <Fives> Since I'm going to be putting it straight back on.
#394 [06:49] <Fives> Should I uninstaller JDK too?
#395 [06:49] <DiskDaemon> I think that a misunderstanding occurred. My answer is that is doesn't matter if you uninstall it with Revo. That was my answer. No.
#396 [06:50] <DiskDaemon> No it doesn't matter
#397 [06:50] <DiskDaemon> leave JDK as it is for now
#398 [06:50] <Fives> I miss typed, uninstall, not uninstaller.
#399 [06:53] <Fives> Same error.
#400 [06:54] <Fives> Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine. Error: A fatal exception occured. Program Will exit.
#401 [06:54] <DiskDaemon> Is that with the -server parameter?
#402 [06:55] <Fives> Without.
#403 [06:55] <Fives> With it, it gives me the other error.
#404 [06:55] <Fives> The first one I showed you.
#405 [06:56] <DiskDaemon> Well then, it looks like you may be screwed.
#406 [06:56] <Fives> Kay, so what now?
#407 [06:56] <DiskDaemon> Bring that line of enquiry to an end
#408 [06:57] <Fives> What would you do?
#409 [06:58] <DiskDaemon> I would research that error message in great depth, and after having come to an end of all viable paths I would back up to something else other than using that batchfile command line that you are using
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#413 [07:03] <Fevix> What's the line he's using?
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#415 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> Fevix: It's "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe" -Xmx384M -server -Djava.library.path=bin/natives -cp bin/minecraft.jar;bin/jinput.jar;bin/lwjgl.jar;bin/lwjgl_util.jar net.minecraft.client.Minecraft Username Password
#416 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> [23:32:11] <Fives> Gives this error: Error: missing 'server' JVM at 'C:\Pr
#417 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> :/
#418 [07:06] <Fives> Do you know what's going on Fevix?
#419 [07:07] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon, as I mentioned, server JVM does not exist in JRE, and JDK 32bit
#420 [07:07] <DiskDaemon> There are other ways of setting the amount of memory for Minecraft, other than using a batch file
#421 [07:08] <Fives> If not I'm working with another batch file now and have a few questions.
#422 [07:08] <Fives> What does the -Xbash parameter do?
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#424 [07:11] <shane> hey guys just wondering if you can help me out
#425 [07:11] <Fives> Ask away.
#426 [07:12] <shane> ive set up a server so i can host a gam with a friend of mine and they cant seem to join my game
#427 [07:12] <Fevix> shane: hAVE YOU FORWARDED THE PORT?
#428 [07:12] <Fevix> Sorry, capslocked
#429 [07:12] <shane> i can connect fine but for some reason it says that they cant reach the game
#430 [07:12] <shane> yea i have
#431 [07:12] <Fevix> Properly?
#432 [07:12] <shane> probley not by the looks of things lol
#433 [07:13] <shane> i did the whole 25565 port range and all that
#434 [07:13] <Fevix> Did you forward it to your own internal address?
#435 [07:14] <shane> probley not
#436 [07:14] <shane> lol i feel pretty stupid right now
#437 [07:14] <shane> lol
#438 [07:14] <shane> if you dont mine me asking are you guys located in aust at all
#439 [07:15] <cestislife> Uh, what do you mean?
#440 [07:16] <shane> are you guys based over seas i only ask because the tut ive watched are for routers i dont have in australia
#441 [07:17] <cestislife> !check 60.229.181.235
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#443 [07:17] <cestislife> The server seems to be unreachable.
#444 [07:17] <DiskDaemon> shane: We are volunteers from all over the world. Which particular router do you have? Make & model please
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#446 [07:18] <cestislife> Make = manufacturer
#447 [07:18] <shane> yea thats what comes up for my sister
#448 [07:18] <shane> i have a telstra bigpond router
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#450 [07:19] <shane> ive connected on 10.0.0.15.25565
#451 [07:19] <DiskDaemon> shane: Is it a netgear router?
#452 [07:20] <shane> sorry it just says home network gateway from bigpond
#453 [07:20] <shane> sorry i cant be more help
#454 [07:20] <DiskDaemon> Is there information on the back/bottom that might be the make or the model number?
#455 [07:21] <DiskDaemon> Does it have a sticker that looks like this? http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00lCgtMjoGhOqa/Bigpond-3G9wb-3G9wb8790-Broadband-WiFi-Router-Embedded-in-Mc8790-Module-3G9WB-.jpg
#456 [07:21] <DiskDaemon> Or something similar
#457 [07:22] <shane> technicolor tg587n v3
#458 [07:22] <DiskDaemon> thanks
#459 [07:22] <shane> very similar
#460 [07:23] <shane> again sorry i coouldnt be much more help
#461 [07:24] <DiskDaemon> That's okay - the portforward site has details about the router at http://screenshots.portforward.com/Technicolor/TG587nv3/ but I'm looking to see if it has minecraft specific instructions for that particular one
#462 [07:24] <shane> thank you so much for thaty
#463 [07:26] <Fevix> DiskDaemon: I don't think Minecraft needs special forwarding compared to other things
#464 [07:26] <DiskDaemon> Apparently there are instructions for a very similar router at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47LmbBoAvaA
#465 [07:26] <VoxelHead> Port forwarding Minecraft (Thomson TG 782T) - With Commentary ( by madr0ry )
#466 [07:26] <SinZ> hey, the telstra standard
#467 [07:26] <DiskDaemon> Fevix: sorry, but it does
#468 [07:26] <Fevix> I haven't needed special forwarding.
#469 [07:26] <SinZ> port forwarding 25565 is required
#470 [07:27] <Fevix> I've just forwarded 25565 to my computer and it worked.
#471 [07:27] <SinZ> tcp
#472 [07:27] <Fevix> I do both tcp and udp
#473 [07:27] <DiskDaemon> Fevix: Well done - I have to go to sleep now - please feel free to carry on with helping shane with his issue
#474 [07:27] <shane> so what would you recomend
#475 [07:27] <SinZ> port forward tcp 25565, and udp 25565 if you plan on enabling query
#476 [07:28] <shane> ive done that and goes on the translate to and i have left it blank
#477 [07:30] <Fevix> translate to 25565
#478 [07:30] <shane> ok
#479 [07:30] <shane> and that should fix it hopefully
#480 [07:30] <Fevix> THen assign it to the computer hosting the server and it should work
#481 [07:31] <shane> sweet as
#482 [07:31] <shane> thanks again for your help guys
#483 [07:31] <shane> ill let you know if i mess it up lol
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#485 [07:33] <Fives> Ok, so this batch: "java -Xmx284M -Xms384M -jar Minecraft.exe" doesn't work properly. It runs MC but checking the snooper settings, it hasn't allocated the correct memory.
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#487 [07:34] <DiskDaemon> The max is lower than the min!
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#489 [07:34] <Fives> Sorry that was a typo, the actual batch is 384 and 284.
#490 [07:35] <Kirsti> Hi I bought minecraft yesterday and it makes my macbook pro overheat... :( help
#491 [07:35] <DiskDaemon> speaking of min - I need to minimise my time here - good luck and all the best
#492 [07:35] <Kirsti> and I cant find an email address to contact mojang
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#494 [07:36] <Kirsti> anyone here?
#495 [07:37] <Fives> Give them a moment.
#496 [07:38] <cestislife> ??> Kirsti mojang/email
#497 [07:38] <VoxelHead> Kirsti: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#498 [07:38] <Kirsti> thank you :)
#499 [07:38] <Fives> Wow, wow, do they really need to do that?
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#501 [07:39] <Fives> His computer's overheating.
#502 [07:39] <Fives> Or hers.
#503 [07:39] <Fevix> Kirsti: Your computer overheating isn't Mojang's fault.
#504 [07:39] <Kirsti> My mac is more than capable of running minecraft
#505 [07:39] <Fevix> Your system is simply too slow to run Minecraft properly, and doesn't have adequate cooling.
#506 [07:39] <Kirsti> I saw on google that lots of macbook owners have this issue
#507 [07:40] <cestislife> Macbooks have different manufacturing dates.
#508 [07:40] <cestislife> Of which have different specifications.
#509 [07:40] <Fevix> Again, inadequate cooling.
#510 [07:40] <cestislife> I gave you the email because you asked for it, but it is in no way Mojang's fault.
#511 [07:40] <Fevix> ^
#512 [07:40] <cestislife> Minecraft is a very graphics and processor intensive game.
#513 [07:40] <DiskDaemon> It seems to be a common macbook issue http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1513045-mac-overheats-during-minecraft/
#514 [07:40] <DiskDaemon> dammit Disk - hit the pillow!
#515 [07:41] <Fevix> Disk, your bed just called me. It misses you.
#516 [07:41] * cestislife injects sleeping drugs
#516 [07:41] <Kirsti> Yes but if I can't play minecraft then there is no point in me owning it. I have it on Android and I love it
#517 [07:41] <cestislife> If you can run the game, then you do not qualify for a refund.
#518 [07:41] <Fevix> Kirsti: I don't think Mojang gives refunds.
#519 [07:41] <cestislife> ??> Kirsti refund
#520 [07:41] <VoxelHead> Kirsti: (refund) This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#521 [07:41] <Fevix> I stand corrected
#522 [07:41] <Kirsti> oh :(
#523 [07:42] <Fevix> SO yes, because you CAN run Minecraft, you don't qualify.
#524 [07:42] <Kirsti> I can... but I cant play it
#525 [07:42] <Kirsti> I dont want my mac to explode
#526 [07:42] <Kirsti> lol
#527 [07:43] <Fives> Aren't there any Mac users who can help them at all?
#528 [07:43] <Kirsti> I'll stick to it on Android, its sooo good <3
#529 [07:43] <Fevix> Fives: It's not a software problem.
#530 [07:43] <cestislife> Still, a decent cooling pad will do wonders.
#531 [07:44] <Fevix> The only fix would be to add more cooling to the macbook, through a cooling pad.
#532 [07:44] <Kirsti> No it wont, I have read about people with the same issue
#533 [07:44] <Fives> The Mac is the whole machine including the OS.
#534 [07:44] <Fevix> Fives: Overheat isn't a software problem.
#535 [07:45] <Fives> I understand.
#536 [07:45] <Fives> But a Mac user uses the hardware aswell as the software.
#537 [07:46] <Fives> And if you could take some of the load off of the Mac it wouldn't run so hot, right?
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#539 [07:49] <Fevix> I just had some sort of strange thought. I was holding a stack of string when I closed my chest, and for a moment I thought that the string would magically enter the chest because it was on top as it closed.
#540 [07:50] <cestislife> Haha.
#541 [07:50] <cestislife> Sadly it doesn't work that way.
#542 [07:51] <Fevix> Wouldn't be a very practical thing to do either way
#543 [07:51] <Fevix> The time between the GUI closing and the chest closing is minimal, leaving little time to do it.
#544 [07:51] <cestislife> If you really want such automation, hoppers do the trick.
#545 [07:52] <Fevix> I haven't experimented with hoppers much, do they pick up dropped items like that?
#546 [07:52] <cestislife> If you drop them in the hopper, yes.
#547 [07:52] <Fevix> nice
#548 [07:52] <cestislife> And you can open chests with hoppers on top.
#549 [07:52] <cestislife> As they're considered transparent blocks.
#550 [07:52] <Fevix> Nice again
#551 [07:53] <Fevix> You still can't tile chests though without using trapped :P
#552 [07:53] <cestislife> Ehh, trapped chests aren't that hard to make.
#553 [07:53] <Fevix> THough I understand the limitations of that.
#554 [07:53] <Fives> So no one knows how to fux my issue?
#555 [07:54] <Fevix> I've gotten into the habit of setting up my storage before I set up my house XD
#556 [07:54] <cestislife> On the same boat as well Fevix.
#557 [07:54] <Fevix> SO that usually leads to several minutes of scurrying about as I both move the items in and rearrange the storage
#558 [07:55] <cestislife> The banes of being a neat freak, I have to organise everything.
#559 [07:55] <Fevix> I know your pain all too well
#560 [07:55] <Fives> Hello?
#561 [07:55] <Fevix> What's your problem again, Fives?
#562 [07:55] <Fives> ""java -Xmx384M -Xms384M -server -jar Minecraft.exe" Isn'w working correclty, Checking the Snooper Settings show it hasn't worked.
#563 [07:56] <Fives> Ooops, the -server parameter wasn;t there.
#564 [07:56] <Fives> Wait.
#565 [07:57] <Fives> Yes, still same issue.
#566 [07:57] <Fives> Unless it's something to do with a bad java installation.
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#568 [08:01] <Fives> Anyone?
#569 [08:04] <Fives> Should I post in the Minecraft Speed/Optimization Guide thread?
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#586 [09:27] <razorclawblood> hello everyone! minecraft 1.4.7 does not start in ubuntu 11.1o dell inspiron 450... got crash report but could not find any help from mojang! don't know where to post the error report. any help?
#587 [09:29] <razorclawblood> well, i guess, won't get any help here, either!
#588 [09:29] <razorclawblood> exit
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#593 [09:37] <Fevix> >People who think the entire world is sitting there at the ready for them
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#612 [10:43] <Mitman1234> I updated my graphics drivers and now minecraft crashes on startup. Anything I can do?
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#615 [10:45] <scweller> I get the black screen everytime I install a new mod. WHY? Running new version 1.5.1
#616 [10:45] <Mikko_blu> Are they for 1.5?
#617 [10:45] <scweller> yes
#618 [10:46] <Mikko_blu> Mitman can you paste bin the error?
#619 [10:46] <scweller> gui and forge load but nothing else will
#620 [10:46] <Mikko_blu> I would go ask In the forge channel
#621 [10:46] <scweller> I dont get an error it just black screens after the mojang screen
#622 [10:47] <Mikko_blu> Not you lol this channel is for vanilla support
#623 [10:47] <scweller> sorry new to this chat sessions
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#625 [10:47] <Mitman1234> yah, here is the error: http://pastebin.com/hbRLX7jR
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#628 [10:48] <Mikko_blu> Mitman what are.your.specs?
#629 [10:49] <Mitman1234> Ive got a GTX 680 and i7 3770k both at a very modest overclock
#630 [10:49] <Mikko_blu> Are you using th drivers from nvidia
#631 [10:49] <Mitman1234> 16 gigs of ram and ive allocated minecraft 4 gigs
#632 [10:49] <Mikko_blu> Or the Windows ones
#633 [10:49] <Mitman1234> yes, downloaded them from their site
#634 [10:49] <Mikko_blu> You only need 1
#635 [10:50] <scweller> forge channel?direct me if you were talking to me
#636 [10:50] <garyd_ryan> i cant login on the launch page. it said login failed. but i cant play offline until ive played online at least once. the error reads <html> <head> <title>301 Moved Permanently </ title></head> <body bgcolor="white"> <center><h1>301 Moved Permanently</h1 ></center> <hr><center>nginx/1.2.2</center></body> </html>
#637 [10:50] <Mitman1234> ok, well it crashes either way
#638 [10:51] <Mikko_blu> Try restarting your.computer mitman
#639 [10:51] <Mitman1234> i have, didnt work. will try again
#640 [10:51] <Mikko_blu> Scweller go to #minecraftforge I.think
#641 [10:51] <Mikko_blu> Garyd I have a link for that somewhere lemme find it
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#645 [10:53] <Mitman1234_> it still crashes
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#647 [10:53] <Mikko_blu> Can you launch another game? like crysis or arma or something
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#650 [10:55] <Mikko_blu> garyd_ryan, try this
#651 [10:55] <Mikko_blu> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542047-can-t-connect-to-minecraft-net
#652 [10:55] <Mitman1234_> saint's row the third works just fine
#653 [10:55] <Mikko_blu> Huh
#654 [10:55] <Mikko_blu> weird
#655 [10:56] <Mitman1234_> very, ive cleared out the bin folder in .minecraft and had the client redownload those too and that didnt work either
#656 [10:56] <Mikko_blu> lemme do some research quick
#657 [10:56] <Mikko_blu> You can try doing updating lwjgl, lemme get the link
#658 [10:57] <Mikko_blu> http://lwjgl.syfaro.net/LWJGLUpdater.jar
#659 [10:58] <Mitman1234_> nope, still crashing
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#661 [10:58] <Mikko_blu> Try reinstalling your drivers, the nvidia link is here http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
#662 [10:59] <Mikko_blu> thats the only other thing i can think of
#663 [10:59] <Mikko_blu> make sure that past video drivers arent present either
#664 [10:59] <ryladine> Mitman, is it providing you with an error log on crash?
#665 [10:59] <Mikko_blu> yeah
#666 [10:59] <Mikko_blu> its an openGL11 error
#667 [10:59] <ryladine> have
#668 [10:59] <clarjon1> Mikko_blu: That just downloaded the LWJGL libraries to the current folder :/
#669 [11:00] <ryladine> MC's supporting openGL11 now? Wow I've been away a long time, last I knew it was still only running 10
#670 [11:00] <Mitman1234_> how to i make sure the past drivers are gone?
#671 [11:00] <clarjon1> Vec3 Pool Size: ~~ERROR~~ NullPointerException: null[failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)]
#672 [11:00] <clarjon1> How are you keeping yoru graphics drivers up to date?
#673 [11:01] <clarjon1> *your
#674 [11:01] <Mikko_blu> oh your using a 512x tecture pack
#675 [11:01] <Mikko_blu> thats probably why
#676 [11:01] <Mitman1234_> it says that but I deleted the texture pack a long time ago
#677 [11:01] <Mitman1234_> i was just seeing if it could work
#678 [11:02] <Mitman1234_> the actual file isnt there anymore
#679 [11:02] <Mitman1234_> hmm, thats probably why
#680 [11:02] <Mikko_blu> delete options.txt in the .minecraft folder
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#682 [11:02] <clarjon1> Mitman1234_: In the launcher, please press the "Options" button, then click "Force update", then try logging in, after deleting the options.txt as Mikko_blu directed :)
#683 [11:02] <Mitman1234_> deleting the options.txt worked!
#684 [11:02] <clarjon1> aha.
#685 [11:02] <Mitman1234_> thanks mikko!!
#686 [11:03] <Mikko_blu> your welcome :D
#687 [11:03] <Mitman1234_> it still crashes when i go fullscreen but thats ok. at least it works not
#688 [11:03] <Mitman1234_> it still crashes when i go fullscreen but thats ok. at least it works now
#689 [11:03] <clarjon1> Mitman1234_: You'll want to try updating your graphics card drivers from the manufacturer's website, not using windows update :)
#690 [11:04] <Mikko_blu> yeah that
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#692 [11:04] <Mitman1234_> I did that. i turned off windows update
#693 [11:04] <scweller> it is me again i do not see a minecraft forge channel. any other suggestions for black screens?
#694 [11:05] <Mikko_blu> its around here somewhere
#695 [11:05] <clarjon1> scweller: Asking for help on the place you got the mod?
#696 [11:05] <clarjon1> ??> scweller mods
#697 [11:05] <VoxelHead> scweller: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#698 [11:05] <VoxelHead> scweller: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#701 [11:06] <scweller> ok thanks they worked fine until the update to 1.5.1 was pushed. I will search else where Thank you anyway!
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#704 [11:07] <pyrorat1> in survival mode game objects keep dissapering from the chests , i have a low ping, and good connection so its not that what can i do to fix it
#705 [11:08] <christian9494> because when I bought the minecraft gets nothing
#706 [11:08] <pyrorat1> that makes no scence
#707 [11:08] <Mikko_blu> pyrorat1, is that in multiplayer i assume?
#708 [11:08] <pyrorat1> yes
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#710 [11:09] <christian9494> when I bought the minecraft I get the mail to my hotmail
#711 [11:09] <christian9494> when I bought the minecraft I get the mail to my hotmail
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#713 [11:09] <Mikko_blu> brb switching classes
#714 [11:10] <pyrorat1> the chset opens and closes i walk away from chest and then the items are missing from inventry
#715 [11:10] <christian9494> help me please
#716 [11:10] <Jakelc99> Minecraft pocket edition(ipod 4th gen) wont work unless i have wifi off
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#719 [11:12] <pyrorat1> this is about as helpfull as a one legged hamster
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#721 [11:12] <eric_> i just bought minecraft online. i tried to sign in but then it says that my email isnt in the system. i want to play. what do i do?
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#723 [11:13] <christian9494> when I bought the minecraft I get the mail to my hotmail
#724 [11:13] <christian9494> help me plis
#725 [11:13] <Jakelc99> Minecraft pe wont work unless wifi is off
#726 [11:13] <eric_> i need help too
#727 [11:14] <eric_> i have wifi on
#728 [11:14] <christian9494> and my
#729 [11:14] <christian9494> me
#730 [11:14] <christian9494> i have the wifi on
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#732 [11:14] <Jakelc99> When i turn it on and try to launch minecraft pe it just crashes
#733 [11:15] <christian9494> if I'm without wifi how it works
#734 [11:16] <Jakelc99> Same for me but if i turn it on it doesnt
#735 [11:16] <christian9494> to me says you're not buying premium minecraft and I say but if you buy it
#736 [11:17] <christian9494> say user not premium help me plis
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#738 [11:18] <christian9494> hello
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#740 [11:19] <christian9494> not let me because
#741 [11:20] <christian9494> says do not buy minecraft
#742 [11:20] <christian9494> say you no are premium
#743 [11:21] <christian9494> helo
#744 [11:21] <christian9494> hello
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#747 [11:23] <christian9494> i bought minecraft and the minecraft say you no are premium
#748 [11:25] <christian9494> hello
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#753 [11:39] <Dominator> has anyone got error code -24 when trying to reinstall mine
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#755 [11:41] <Dominator> - minecraft pocket edition
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#757 [11:46] <Dominator> on nexus7
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#762 [11:54] <RubenBogey> When I log in to minecraft a file appears and i says: Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Unexpected error A full error report has been saved to /Users/rubenboon/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2013-03-22_16.53.22-client.txt - Please include a copy of that file (Not this screen!) if you report this crash
#763 [11:55] <RubenBogey> my minecraft has crashed, what to do now?
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#765 [11:56] <RubenBogey> ?
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#775 [12:10] <TrollByte> er..
#776 [12:10] <TrollByte> my minecraft says error 2 null
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#778 [12:19] <burmabaines> I keep getting login failed when trying to play Minecraft.
#779 [12:20] <burmabaines> Anyone there?
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#781 [12:23] <burmabaines_> Hello, anyone there please?
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#783 [12:23] <burmabaines_> Anyone there?
#784 [12:24] <burmabaines_> Hello?
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#787 [12:26] <burmabaines> Hello?
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#789 [12:27] <burmabaines> Well this is great....
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#793 [12:27] <theis> can you help me?
#794 [12:27] <burmabaines> I was loking for help myself mate.
#795 [12:29] <burmabaines> What's your problem?
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#797 [12:29] <theis> when i try to play minecraft it says that i need an update to play the game
#798 [12:30] <evilgamer> hi my minecraft is game is white in the bowser
#799 [12:30] <evilgamer> its is white everytime i could play minecraft at the bowser
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#801 [12:31] <Necrodoom> theis: when it says it and what does it say exactly?
#802 [12:31] <burmabaines> Can't help you there mate I'm sorry. There doesn't seem to be any MC guy here.
#803 [12:31] <Necrodoom> evilgamer: try use the launcher version
#804 [12:31] <evilgamer> its dosent work
#805 [12:31] <evilgamer> if i try to downlaod it
#806 [12:31] <Necrodoom> burmabaines: im not an expert, but try login to minecraft.net with same details
#807 [12:31] <Necrodoom> evilgamer: what happens?
#808 [12:31] <burmabaines> ok
#809 [12:32] <evilgamer> it say a java machine not working
#810 [12:32] <Necrodoom> evilgamer: can you say exactly what does it say when you launch it?
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#813 [12:33] <burmabaines> Necrodoom:- I'm already logged in apparently.
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#815 [12:34] <kippen007> hello
#816 [12:34] <kippen007> ?
#817 [12:34] <kippen007> is there somebody ?
#818 [12:34] <evilgamer> Error:Could not create the Java Virtual machine
#819 [12:34] <kippen007> i need some help
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#821 [12:35] <theis> it says that i cant launch the game becsuse an update is missing
#822 [12:35] <Necrodoom> burmabaines: try change your password, then login from client again
#823 [12:35] <Necrodoom> if still fails, might be an antivirus/firewall problem
#824 [12:35] <Necrodoom> theis: when and what exactly it says?
#825 [12:35] <Necrodoom> Kieraan: ask
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#827 [12:36] <Necrodoom> evilgamer: thats the only thing it says?
#828 [12:37] <Kieraan> Necrodoom: L2[tab] :3
#829 [12:37] <Dominator> where is an expert
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#831 [12:37] <Necrodoom> ):
#832 [12:37] <Necrodoom> Dominator: not an expert, but i can try to help
#833 [12:37] <burmabaines> I've just changed the password. I logged out and then back in to minecraft.net no problem. Just can't play MC in online mode or receive any updates.
#834 [12:38] <evilgamer> fatal error occurred program will exit
#835 [12:38] <Necrodoom> burmabaines: i ment into the client
#836 [12:38] <Necrodoom> evilgamer: what do you use? MAC? linux? windows?
#837 [12:39] <evilgamer> windows
#838 [12:40] <Necrodoom> hm
#839 [12:40] <Necrodoom> try reinstall your java, i guess
#840 [12:40] <burmabaines> Yeah I know. Just tested the login with minecraft.net with no problem but I can't login from the client.
#841 [12:41] <theis> im trying to help a college of mine so i dont know exactly what and when i says it
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#843 [12:42] <Necrodoom> burmabaines: ask i said, might be an antivirus/firewall problem blocking connection
#844 [12:42] <evilgamer> ok i'll do it hopei it works
#845 [12:42] <Necrodoom> theis: i dont know how i can help you then, not enough info
#846 [12:42] <evilgamer> please hang around while i do it
#847 [12:43] <Necrodoom> theis: if you are refering to "a new update is up" when logging in, thats just means a new minecract update it up
#848 [12:43] <burmabaines> Thanks, I'll check it out.
#849 [12:43] <Necrodoom> minecraft*
#850 [12:43] <Necrodoom> agh, sleepless night
#851 [12:43] <theis> i'll try to get some more info
#852 [12:47] <burmabaines> Well I've just knocked windows firewall off and tried again with no luck. I'm not running any anti-virus software.
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#854 [12:48] <Necrodoom> burmabaines: hm, no idea, then, sorry
#855 [12:48] <burmabaines> Thanks for your help anyway.
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#857 [12:51] <theis> a message pops up on the screen saying 1.4.7, thats all it says
#858 [12:52] <Necrodoom> theis: so basically, you are refering to the "do you want to update minecraft to 1.5? yes no"
#859 [12:53] <evilgamer> are you there?
#860 [12:54] <evilgamer> my minecraft is still not working
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#862 [12:54] <theis> maby, im trying to help my friends kids, and they told me thats what it says, they cant figure out how to update it
#863 [12:55] <cat> Hello all, Cant get past the mojang screen after the update. tried force update.
#864 [12:55] <Necrodoom> theis: theres a button there, saying "yes"
#865 [12:56] <theis> ok, so if they update, they will be able to play?
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#868 [12:58] <Necrodoom> theis: either way they can
#869 [12:59] <Necrodoom> they just need to click any button
#870 [12:59] <theis> what do you mean
#871 [12:59] <Necrodoom> the screen provides you 2 buttons, yes or no
#872 [12:59] <Necrodoom> youd need to click one to proceed
#873 [12:59] <Necrodoom> pretty simple
#874 [13:00] <Floor> hello, I have an issue with a single-player world to do with missing chunks
#875 [13:01] <ryladine> Floor, explain missing chunks? Do you mean they aren't there are you fall in or they simply aren't visible?
#876 [13:01] <theis> du er lidt flabet
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#878 [13:02] <newminecrafter> So I just purchased the full version...but it won't let me download it. Any help?
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#880 [13:02] <ryladine> What is your minecraft name?
#881 [13:02] <Floor> well, recently large square chunks of the world have been disappearing, and when you try to walk through them it is like walking into a wall. Flying into them either causes you to stop or slow down
#882 [13:02] <evilgamer> is anyone even helping me help?
#883 [13:02] <newminecrafter> I tried disabling my anti-virus to let it download like MC suggested, but no go.
#884 [13:03] <ryladine> Have you tried restarting your client?
#885 [13:03] <ryladine> newminecrafter, what is your Mc name?
#886 [13:03] <newminecrafter> Running_Guru
#887 [13:03] <ryladine> !paid Running_Guru
#888 [13:03] <newminecrafter> huh?
#889 [13:03] <ryladine> Mp
#890 [13:03] <Floor> also, they seem to stretch all the way down to bedrock, and water/lava does not flow into them. however they don't stretch all the way up.
#891 [13:04] <newminecrafter> It just keeps saying it won't let me download the game...I've tried several times....
#892 [13:04] <evilgamer> minecraft game is not working its going white each time a play it!
#893 [13:04] <ryladine> Floor, have you tried restarting your client? That sounds like the chunk has just gone invisible, which has been a glitch since back in the MC beta.
#894 [13:05] <ryladine> newminecrafter, Are you sure that is your exact minecraft name?
#895 [13:05] <Floor> yes I have relaunched many times, the chunks remain missing. another notable thing is that from a distance, the chunks seem to be there, but when going closer, they dissappear
#896 [13:06] <ryladine> Is this vanilla MC
#897 [13:06] <ryladine> ?
#898 [13:06] <newminecrafter> Yeah, it is my exact minecraft name.
#899 [13:06] <ryladine> How long as it been since you bought minecrafT?
#900 [13:07] <newminecrafter> I just purchased it this morning.
#901 [13:07] <Floor> my minecraft has singleplayer commands and world edit installed
#902 [13:08] <ryladine> Try waiting at least 24 hours for the purchase to go through. It can be a bit slow some times, other than that I'm afraid we can't help much here. This is an unofficial help source, payment problems have to go through mojang themselves. Let me get you a link to the mojang support site.
#903 [13:08] <ryladine> newminecrafter, http://help.mojang.com/
#904 [13:09] <newminecrafter> I've been on that page for the last hour...lol.
#905 [13:09] <ryladine> Floor, have you tried opening the world without those mods installed?
#906 [13:09] <Floor> no
#907 [13:09] <ryladine> newminecrafter, I'm afraid thats all I can provide. We cannot help with account validity or payment issues here beyond some basic questions to help you to the right answers.
#908 [13:09] <evilgamer> my minecraft is working each time i olay it goes white
#909 [13:10] <newminecrafter> I tried even dealing with the hosts file (to see if that was the problem) and nothing...it's prescribed method can't even be done on my computer...
#910 [13:10] <ryladine> Floor, please try that, modded MC is notorious for bugs, without trying to fix it through normal MC I can't tell you if the issue is from one of the mods or not.
#911 [13:11] <ryladine> newminecrafter, what exactly is it saying when you try?
#912 [13:11] <ryladine> evilgamer, when you crash does it generate an error long with your minecraft.exe?
#913 [13:11] <newminecrafter> When I download it? It simply says it can't be downloaded.
#914 [13:11] <ryladine> newminecrafter, Just that "Cannot be downloaded?"
#915 [13:12] <ryladine> newminecrafter, no reference to why?
#916 [13:12] <newminecrafter> Yeah, it can't be downloaded. It lets me retry, but obviously that hasn't worked.
#917 [13:12] <newminecrafter> No, no reference...
#918 [13:12] <ryladine> What is the exact wording it is using?
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#921 [13:14] <newminecrafter> "Minecraft_exe couldn't be downloaded."
#922 [13:14] <evilgamer> yes
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#924 [13:14] <ryladine> Can you post it on pastebin please evilgamer?
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#927 [13:14] <evilgamer> were is that/
#928 [13:15] <ryladine> pastebin.com
#929 [13:15] <ryladine> Hm, wait. You're trying to download the minecraft.exe not the game itself?
#930 [13:16] <ryladine> Try using this link newminecrafter, see if it does the same thing. https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#931 [13:16] <newminecrafter> No, I've gone to the 'click here to download' tab and that's what comes up.
#932 [13:16] <evilgamer> i just want to play minecraft browser or downloaded
#933 [13:16] <newminecrafter> No, same thing. That's the link I've been clicking on.
#934 [13:16] <ryladine> Have you tried using a different webbrowser?
#935 [13:17] <evilgamer> what so u mean
#936 [13:17] <evilgamer> what do u mean
#937 [13:17] <ryladine> evilgamer, I understand. I'm trying to help you with that. You said when it crashes it genereates an error log?
#938 [13:17] <newminecrafter> Wow. Googlechrome worked instantly. lol
#939 [13:17] <ryladine> evilgamer, I'm assisting several people at once, if I'm refering to you my message will say your name infront or behind it.
#940 [13:18] <evilgamer> yes each time a try to launch the minecraft
#941 [13:18] <evilgamer> kk
#942 [13:18] <ryladine> newminecrafter, may I ask what browser you were using?
#943 [13:18] <newminecrafter> internet explorer
#944 [13:18] <newminecrafter> thanks a bunch
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#946 [13:19] <ryladine> evilgamer, Can you please copy the contents of that error log to pastebin.com for me and provide a link?
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#948 [13:23] <evilgamer> there i done it
#949 [13:23] <ryladine> Can I get the link please?
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#951 [13:24] <ryladine> evilgamer, Can I get the link please?
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#953 [13:25] <evilgamer> http://pastebin.com/x3a91dfZ
#954 [13:25] <ryladine> Thank you. Pleasae give me a moment to read through it.
#955 [13:26] <ryladine> please**
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#957 [13:26] <ryladine> My thats a simple error.
#958 [13:26] <ryladine> What OS are you running?
#959 [13:26] <ryladine> evilgamer , What OS are you running?
#960 [13:27] <evilgamer> what that?
#961 [13:27] <ryladine> Windows, Mac, Linux
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#963 [13:28] <ryladine> evilgamer, What operating system are you running? Examples would be windows, mac, and linux.
#964 [13:28] <evilgamer> windows
#965 [13:28] <ryladine> evilgamer, Do you know what type of windows? 7, vista, xp?
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#967 [13:29] <ryladine> evilgamer, tell you what lets simplify this.
#968 [13:30] <evilgamer> i think windows windows vista
#969 [13:30] <ryladine> evilgamer, please follow the directions voxelhead is about to say.
#970 [13:30] <ryladine> ?? dxdiag
#971 [13:30] <evilgamer> ok
#972 [13:30] <ryladine> mp
#973 [13:30] <ryladine> ?? win/dxdiag
#974 [13:30] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#975 [13:30] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
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#977 [13:31] <ryladine> The win key is the key on the left between ctrl and alt, it should have a flag on it.
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#979 [13:32] <evilgamer> who me?
#980 [13:32] <ryladine> Yes, those directions were for you.
#981 [13:32] <ryladine> Sorry its easier to have the bot say it.
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#983 [13:34] <evilgamer> umm i didint get the whole thing at all
#984 [13:35] <ryladine> evilgamer, what do you mean? Do you not understand the directions or did some of them not display for you?
#985 [13:35] <evilgamer> did not understand the directions
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#987 [13:36] <ryladine> evilgamer, Alright do you know how to open your start menu?
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#989 [13:36] <ryladine> evilgamer, Alright do you know how to open your start menu?
#990 [13:36] <evilgamer> yes
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#992 [13:37] <ryladine> Please do so, then type "dxdiag" without the quotes into the search bar and press enter.
#993 [13:37] <ryladine> A new menu should appear.
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#995 [13:37] <ryladine> Do you see it?
#996 [13:37] <evilgamer> yes
#997 [13:38] <ryladine> Now, it should list some system information correct?
#998 [13:38] <ryladine> Like the date/time, computer name, and operating syste,m
#999 [13:38] <ryladine> system**
#1000 [13:38] <evilgamer> yes
#1001 [13:39] <ryladine> What exactly does the operating system entry say?
#1002 [13:39] <ryladine> Please include the bit it provides.
#1003 [13:39] <evilgamer> DirectX Diagnostic Tool
#1004 [13:39] <ryladine> Uhm...
#1005 [13:40] <ryladine> Lets do something a bit different. Press "Save All Informat" and save it to your desktop.
#1006 [13:40] <ryladine> information*
#1007 [13:40] <ryladine> Then open that file and paste its contents on pastebin.com like you did for me with the error.
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#1011 [13:42] <ryladine> Sorry, while you're doing that for me I'll be right back.
#1012 [13:42] <ryladine> I should only be gone for a moment.
#1013 [13:42] <Atrin> hi, i bought minecraft account for like 5 minutes ago but when i want to logain its reads: user not premium
#1014 [13:42] <evilgamer> done it
#1015 [13:43] <ryladine> Atrin, please wait at least 24 hours for the purchase to go through.
#1016 [13:43] <ryladine> evilgamer, Paste the link please.
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#1018 [13:43] <Atrin> ok thancks then
#1019 [13:43] <evilgamer> http://pastebin.com/sG1hKYhZ
#1020 [13:44] <ryladine> Ok, so you're running Windows Vista 32bit.
#1021 [13:44] <Podshot> What is the link that always has the current release of the bin folder in .minecraft?
#1022 [13:45] <ryladine> evilgamer, open your start menu again and type "cmd" without quotes then press enter.
#1023 [13:45] <ryladine> evilgamer A small black box with a cursor should appear.
#1024 [13:45] <evilgamer> i think i know this part
#1025 [13:45] <evilgamer> ok done it
#1026 [13:45] <ryladine> evilgamer, please type "java -version" without quotes into the box and press enter.
#1027 [13:46] <ryladine> Tell me what it says.
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#1029 [13:47] <Atrin> i don't remember my username on minecraft....
#1030 [13:48] <ryladine> Atrin, Oh dear that is a problem. Have you checked your email for any confirmation messages from mojang that would contain it?
#1031 [13:48] <Atrin> yep
#1032 [13:48] <Atrin> but i didin't found anything
#1033 [13:49] <Atrin> Can i change name?
#1034 [13:49] <Atrin> can i change username?
#1035 [13:49] <ryladine> No, but you should be able to login with your email on the site, it would say your username in the top right.
#1036 [13:50] <Atrin> on the minecraft site?
#1037 [13:50] <ryladine> Yes, you can also loging to the client with your email.
#1038 [13:50] <ryladine> login*
#1039 [13:50] <Atrin> wait a moment
#1040 [13:50] <ryladine> evilgamer, have you gotten that done?
#1041 [13:50] <evilgamer> java "1.7.0_17" Java <Tm> SE Runtime Environment (build 23.7
#1042 [13:51] <evilgamer> umm thats not all of it
#1043 [13:51] <evilgamer> wait
#1044 [13:51] <ryladine> Thats all I needed.
#1045 [13:51] <Atrin> i'm back
#1046 [13:52] <ryladine> evilgamer, is this a new issue, have you been able to play MC on this computer before?
#1047 [13:53] <Atrin> it says that my username is Atrin0308 but if i go to the minecraft Launcher it says: Mojang account, use e-mail as username
#1048 [13:53] <evilgamer> yes
#1049 [13:53] <ryladine> Either will work, the client will allow you to login with both.
#1050 [13:54] <Atrin> i can't
#1051 [13:54] <ryladine> evilgamer, Did this issue start after an update, or have you tried installling a new mod?
#1052 [13:54] <ryladine> Atrin, with either of them, now that you know both?
#1053 [13:54] <Atrin> it only reads: Mojang account, use e-mail as username
#1054 [13:54] <Atrin> yes
#1055 [13:55] <Atrin> but i don't want my e-mail as username
#1056 [13:55] <ryladine> Ah, are you sure it won't let you login with your actual username? I know its possible, its how I login.
#1057 [13:55] <Atrin> no i can't
#1058 [13:55] <evilgamer> each time a new update comes i cant play minecraft in the bowser or not in the launcher because the download dosent work
#1059 [13:55] <rymate1234> Atrin, your email is your login name
#1060 [13:55] <Atrin> why?
#1061 [13:55] <ryladine> evilgamer, I see now.
#1062 [13:56] <rymate1234> however ingame your name will be Atrin0308
#1063 [13:56] <ryladine> evilgamer, What antivirus program do you use?
#1064 [13:56] <Atrin> are u sure?
#1065 [13:56] <rymate1234> no-one on multiplayer servers will be able to see your email
#1066 [13:56] <rymate1234> Atrin, I use my email to logon, so I'm 100% certain
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#1068 [13:56] <ryladine> Atrin, Ah that was your concern? rymate1234 is correct.
#1069 [13:56] <evilgamer> umm not shure but i do have it
#1070 [13:57] <Atrin> but i still most wait 24 hours?
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#1072 [13:57] <ryladine> Atrin, if it still says your account is not premium yes.
#1073 [13:57] <ryladine> Atrin, thats just a guess though, it could go through sooner so keep trying.
#1074 [13:57] <Atrin> if i logging in with Atrin0308 it says so
#1075 [13:58] <ryladine> !paid Atrin0
#1076 [13:58] <ryladine> !paid Atrin0308
#1077 [13:58] <Atrin> WHAT?!
#1078 [13:58] <ryladine> Yeah, your purchase hasn't gone through yet.
#1079 [13:58] <ryladine> Just be patient, it will soon.
#1080 [13:58] <Atrin> oh
#1081 [13:58] <Atrin> ok
#1082 [13:58] <evilgamer> umm what now
#1083 [13:59] <Atrin> guys i live in sweden and i am 13 years old
#1084 [13:59] <Atrin> i can't engilish as good like u
#1085 [13:59] <Necrodoom> errr
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#1088 [14:00] <ryladine> evilgamer, Let me go over what we know. You can launch MC from your browser but not your client, the issue starts after an MC update. The error reports java could not make a virutal environment. Your java is up to date, and you run windows vista 64bit.
#1089 [14:00] <Atrin> if i logging in with Atrin0308 it says: Mojang account, use e-mail as username
#1090 [14:01] <ryladine> Go ahead and try doing that atrin, it may have gone through for your email but not the username yet.
#1091 [14:01] <evilgamer> so what should i do
#1092 [14:01] <Atrin> ok
#1093 [14:01] <Atrin> i will
#1094 [14:02] <ryladine> What I would like for you to try is to disable your AV, then remove the currently downloaded copy of MC from its files in %appdata%/.minecraft as well as download a new launcher file from minecraft.net
#1095 [14:02] <ryladine> evilgamer**
#1096 [14:02] <evilgamer> yes
#1097 [14:02] <Atrin> i have download mc launcher 5 times
#1098 [14:02] <ryladine> No sorry for the confusion.
#1099 [14:03] <ryladine> Those instructions I just sent were for evilgamer, I forgot to add his name to the message so I said it after.
#1100 [14:04] <evilgamer> umm can u tell me that one by one
#1101 [14:04] <ryladine> Atrin, we can't do much with account issues here, we aren't an official help system. It sounds to me like your account is still pending in some way, just be patient and see if it corrects itself.
#1102 [14:04] <evilgamer> so then i can keep track what to do
#1103 [14:04] <ryladine> evilgamer, ok disable your antivirus.
#1104 [14:04] <ryladine> evilgamer You can turn it back on as soon as we're done.
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#1106 [14:05] <Atrin> ryladine
#1107 [14:05] <evilgamer> umm i done know were is that :I
#1108 [14:05] <Atrin> can i change my e-mail?
#1109 [14:05] <ryladine> evilgamer, do you know what your antivirus is?
#1110 [14:05] <evilgamer> can u give a example
#1111 [14:05] <Atrin> because i logg in with my mom's e-mail and that works i don't now why
#1112 [14:05] <evilgamer> i sometimes forget things
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#1114 [14:06] <ryladine> evilgamer, Norton, Mcaffey, Kaspersky, AVG
#1115 [14:06] <_Rogue_> Atrin try logging into mojang.com with that email
#1116 [14:06] <Atrin> ok
#1117 [14:06] <_Rogue_> there should be an option to change it iirc
#1118 [14:07] <ryladine> evilgamer, Would you be willing to allow me to take remote control of your computer briefly while I try to assist you? It will help things go a bit faster if I can see and help you follow some of the instructions.
#1119 [14:08] <Atrin> it works with both
#1120 [14:08] <Atrin> it works with my e-mail and my mom's
#1121 [14:08] <ryladine> If you agree you will be able to override my control at any time as well as terminate it.
#1122 [14:08] <_Rogue_> ?? teamviewer
#1123 [14:08] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is a remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1124 [14:08] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1125 [14:08] <Atrin> i don't know why...
#1126 [14:08] <evilgamer> ok
#1127 [14:08] <ryladine> Please download the software voxelhead just said from the site it linked.
#1128 [14:09] <ryladine> You don't need to isntall it for me to help, just run the isntaller and tell it to run the program without isntalling.
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#1130 [14:09] <ryladine> Please do NOT send the user id and password in this chat. Instead /msg it to me.
#1131 [14:09] <Atrin> can somebode answer my question?
#1132 [14:09] <_Rogue_> Atrin I have to head out but
#1133 [14:10] <evilgamer> is that for me
#1134 [14:10] <_Rogue_> you can probably just try logging in with your mother's email and then changing it
#1135 [14:10] <ryladine> My instructions were yes evil.
#1136 [14:10] <_Rogue_> (at mojang.com)
#1137 [14:10] <Atrin> it works with both of my e-mails
#1138 [14:10] <_Rogue_> So, what's the issue?
#1139 [14:10] <ryladine> Let me give them again evilgamer.
#1140 [14:10] <evilgamer> ok i got mixed up
#1141 [14:10] <ryladine> evilgamer, will you allow me to assist you through remote control?
#1142 [14:11] <evilgamer> yes
#1143 [14:11] <ryladine> evilgamer, I'm going to make voxelhead tell you something, please read it through and download the software from the website he is going to link.
#1144 [14:11] <ryladine> ?? teamviewer
#1145 [14:11] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is a remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1146 [14:11] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1147 [14:11] <evilgamer> ok
#1148 [14:11] <Atrin> how can i change my e-mail to my mojang account?
#1149 [14:11] * _Rogue_ throws http://lwjgl.syfaro.net/faq.html at ryladine
#1149 [14:12] <_Rogue_> gotta go get my passport now
#1150 [14:12] <Atrin> How can i change my e-mail?
#1151 [14:12] <Atrin> can somebody answer?
#1152 [14:13] <Atrin> no....?
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#1154 [14:14] <Atrin> ryladine?
#1155 [14:14] <evilgamer> i change my mind sorry i dont want u to remote my computer
#1156 [14:14] <ryladine> evilgamer, Alright thats fine. Can you give me a moment to try and settle with Atrin so I can dedicate more time to you then please?
#1157 [14:15] <evilgamer> ok i can wait
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#1160 [14:15] <Atrin> Thancks
#1161 [14:15] <ryladine> Atrin, as I understand it you are trying to change the email connected to your minecraft account?
#1162 [14:15] <Atrin> how can i chamnge my mojang e-mail?
#1163 [14:15] <Atrin> yes
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#1165 [14:16] <ryladine> Please read this article from the minecraft support site. It should be able to provide you everything you need Atrin. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/901432
#1166 [14:16] <Atrin> Thanck u so much
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#1168 [14:18] <evilgamer> ok now?
#1169 [14:18] <ryladine> Now, evilgamer, I'm going to run off to grab something from another room. Once I've done so I'll be back to assiting you. While I'm gone PLEASE try to find out what antivirus software you are using. It should be visible in your system tray, without that information I will have a very hard time assisting you.
#1170 [14:18] <evilgamer> ok]
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#1172 [14:20] <cat> Hi all, still cannot get past the mojang window on my mac after the new updates. Have forced update and reinstalled with no luck. I know you wizards out there have a solution!
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#1174 [14:21] <Atrin> ryladine i have change my e-mail but it dosen't work
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#1176 [14:21] <ryladine> Explain?
#1177 [14:21] <maxmel29> hallo?
#1178 [14:21] <ryladine> evilgamer, have you found what AV you are using?
#1179 [14:21] <ryladine> Hello maxmel29
#1180 [14:22] <Atrin> i can't still sign in with my e-mail
#1181 [14:22] <maxmel29> english??
#1182 [14:22] <evilgamer> yes ZoneAlarm
#1183 [14:22] <maxmel29> ryladine can you help me???
#1184 [14:22] <ryladine> Ah alright. Give me some time to research it please, I've heard of it but never used it evilgamer.
#1185 [14:22] <Gone_Ralex> ??> maxmel29 ask
#1186 [14:22] <VoxelHead> maxmel29: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1187 [14:22] <VoxelHead> maxmel29: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1188 [14:22] <evilgamer> ok
#1189 [14:23] <Gone_Ralex> ??> evilgamer fubar/zonealarm
#1190 [14:23] <VoxelHead> evilgamer: (fubar/zonealarm) Don't use ZoneAlarm. It's bloated, resource-heavy software that does more harm than good, and in fact is known to cause problems with Minecraft specifically, such as connecting to servers and falling endlessly through the void, or even crashing servers entirely.
#1191 [14:23] <VoxelHead> evilgamer: (fubar/zonealarm) Official report thread about ZA-induce server crashes is here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_crashes_in_multiplayer_socketexception_if_firewa
#1192 [14:23] <maxmel29> ok mojang team i dont know my password from my acount and i also dont know my email anymore
#1193 [14:23] <ryladine> Hah, thats a nice one gone, I was just about to figure out how to have him disable it.
#1194 [14:23] <Gone_Ralex> maxmel29, 1) we are not mojang, 2) you will need to get your trans ID and contact them
#1195 [14:24] <Gone_Ralex> ??> maxmel29 mojang/email
#1196 [14:24] <VoxelHead> maxmel29: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1197 [14:24] <maxmel29> caoh ok
#1198 [14:24] <maxmel29> oh ok
#1199 [14:24] <evilgamer> ok
#1200 [14:24] <Gone_Ralex> maxmel29, article over that for you: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
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#1202 [14:25] <ryladine> evilgamer, Do you want to try removing zone alarm and see if that fixes your issue? I can still assist you with that process if you like.
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#1204 [14:25] <evilgamer> well i can turn it off
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#1206 [14:26] <ryladine> That will work for now most likely. We will still need to replace your minecraft files since its possible zone alarm corrupted them.
#1207 [14:26] <evilgamer> i don't want to uninstall it it takes a long process for me to do it
#1208 [14:26] <ryladine> Some files minecraft uses can be falsely tagged as a virus by some AV's and can be
#1209 [14:26] <ryladine> "cleaned" which will cause them to stop working.
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#1212 [14:27] <ryladine> evilgamer, Go ahead and disable that zone alarm, once you've done so let me know and I will walk you through remomving the old minecraft files.
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#1214 [14:28] <ryladine> Gone_Ralex, Do you know if any of the reported issues with zone alarm will keep MC from being able to have java create it a virtual environment to run in?
#1215 [14:28] <Gone_Ralex> ryladine, sec, grabbing his links from my logs to look ato
#1216 [14:28] <Gone_Ralex> ryladine, and it hsould not
#1217 [14:28] <Gone_Ralex> however, i have a thought
#1218 [14:29] <ryladine> I was going to have him disable his AV and replace the files, and then java if it still didn't work.
#1219 [14:29] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, right click the taskbar, select "Task Manager"
#1220 [14:29] <evilgamer> i will just turn it off because i dont want to uninstall it because i perfore the zonealarm
#1221 [14:29] <ryladine> Ah! That didn't occur to me.
#1222 [14:29] <Gone_Ralex> ryladine, vista and 2GB ram ;)
#1223 [14:29] <Gone_Ralex> well. not even 2GB
#1224 [14:29] <ryladine> Gone_Ralex, Yep.
#1225 [14:30] <ryladine> Gone_Ralex, I considered that but since his error doesn't say it couldn't alocate enough ram I dismissed it.
#1226 [14:30] <Gone_Ralex> ryladine, the error seems incomplete to me
#1227 [14:30] <Gone_Ralex> or
#1228 [14:30] <Gone_Ralex> it was the exe being blocking and not saying it all
#1229 [14:31] <evilgamer> umm what should i do!
#1230 [14:31] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, right click the taskbar, select "Task Manager"
#1231 [14:31] <ryladine> Gone_Ralex, I thought it might be but its been so long since I helped out here I wasn't certain. I decided to go through some basic troubleshooting and see if anything else turned up.
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#1234 [14:32] <Igor> Hello ,can anyone help me with my problem,please?
#1235 [14:32] <ryladine> Igor, ask and someone will be with you when they can.
#1236 [14:32] <DylanCl> Hello. In version 1.5.1 I keep getting a weird bug. Bodyparts dissapear, from cows, myself, other players. I don't know if you know this problem, if it's caused by optifine, I really just want to know if their is a solution for it.
#1237 [14:32] <evilgamer> were the world is taskbar i do forget were is everything is
#1238 [14:32] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, it is the bar the bottom of the screen
#1239 [14:32] <Gone_Ralex> where the start menu is located, that big bar is the taskbar
#1240 [14:33] <Igor> no sure if it's the 1.5.1 update but i get"Internal exception.... connection abort:recv failed"
#1241 [14:33] <evilgamer> ok find it
#1242 [14:33] <Igor> i tried to redownload the game,and repatch it nothing helps me
#1243 [14:33] <evilgamer> what now
#1244 [14:33] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, at the bottom of that window it opens, look for "Physical Memory"
#1245 [14:33] <Gone_Ralex> it will have a % value in that
#1246 [14:34] <ryladine> Igor, is this when you try to join a server?
#1247 [14:34] <Igor> Yes,
#1248 [14:34] <Igor> Im in the server for few secs,than i get this error
#1249 [14:35] <Gone_Ralex> DylanCl, if oyu have mods, like what we have said before, you need to remove them
#1250 [14:35] <DylanCl> Alright. Sorry.
#1251 [14:35] <Gone_Ralex> DylanCl, we don't assist with mod issues, and so it has to occur witohut mods for it to be a bug
#1252 [14:35] <Gone_Ralex> and also
#1253 [14:35] <DylanCl> I'll force update right now
#1254 [14:35] <Gone_Ralex> make sure you use the correct versions of the mods
#1255 [14:35] <Gone_Ralex> because i am betting (again) you tried using a 1.5 mod with 1.5.1
#1256 [14:35] <ryladine> Igor, that error message is directly referencing your connection to the server. "Recv Failed" would indicate that your client was no longer getting data from the server. Is this happening on all servers or just one?
#1257 [14:36] <DylanCl> I have the latest version of optifine, it's for 1.5.1.
#1258 [14:36] <DylanCl> Also, have you heard about my problem?
#1259 [14:36] <DylanCl> Or is it your first time hearing this
#1260 [14:36] <evilgamer> umm it says its no match found
#1261 [14:36] <Gone_Ralex> DylanCl, nope, but again, mods
#1262 [14:36] <cat> Hi all, cat here. anyone know about being stuck on the mojang window after udating on my mac? Any way to know what the problem is?
#1263 [14:36] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, what do you mean?
#1264 [14:36] <Gone_Ralex> on the "Task Manager" winodw, did that open
#1265 [14:37] <Igor> Well it happeneds,on my on server that i have host for it,the others work but with some lags.THis problem appeared Only today.After 20~30 i patched the game to 1.5.1
#1266 [14:37] <ryladine> Gone_Ralex, if I could step in? I think he's tried mixing our instructions, I had been having him open things from the start menu's search bar like it was run because he couldn't understand some directions.
#1267 [14:37] <Wug> sure, I'd be happy to
#1268 [14:38] <Gone_Ralex> ryladine, >_>
#1269 [14:38] <ryladine> Gone_Ralex, he couldn't even open run, I went with what he understood.
#1270 [14:38] <Wug> evilgamer right?
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#1272 [14:38] <evilgamer> is the task managaer the for sqaures
#1273 [14:38] <ryladine> evilgamer, No.
#1274 [14:39] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, http://www.jegsworks.com/Lessons/win/filesandfolders/dialog-taskmanager-notepad-vista.gif is an image of it
#1275 [14:39] <Gone_Ralex> When you right click taskbar, and select the task manager from that, it will open that
#1276 [14:40] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, do you see that?
#1277 [14:40] <ryladine> Igor, thats somewhat odd but I can't say if its minecraft causing it or something else. Since you are having lag elsewhere it could be your net causing the issue.
#1278 [14:41] <ryladine> Igor, Have you tried contacting the server admin to see if you are the only one with the issue?
#1279 [14:41] <evilgamer> find it
#1280 [14:41] <evilgamer> finnaly i find it
#1281 [14:41] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, so you see that window?
#1282 [14:41] <evilgamer> yes
#1283 [14:41] <Gone_Ralex> okay
#1284 [14:41] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, do you see the red circle on this image: http://i.imgur.com/kgLSWJm.gif
#1285 [14:42] <Igor> Hmm,yea . Since im the owner i asked the players that currcetly playing on the server,and im the only one who having this problem for now.
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#1287 [14:42] <Gone_Ralex> It is the same image, just with the part I want you to find on yours
#1288 [14:42] <DylanCl> Gone_Ralex: Does minecraft 1.5.1 use a new version of lwjgl?
#1289 [14:42] <evilgamer> oops i mean no
#1290 [14:42] <Igor> Tho the lag problem fixed,like 5mins ago.
#1291 [14:42] <ryladine> Igor, oh lol. Well that simplifies things a bit then.
#1292 [14:42] <Igor> Is there any way to fix it? I would like to return playing mc.
#1293 [14:42] <evilgamer> i am in the windows task manager
#1294 [14:42] <buddha> when i log in my screen is black
#1295 [14:42] <ryladine> Igor, you said you're logging in and dropping with that error, since you are the server admin could you check something in your logs for me?
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#1297 [14:43] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, so you see something like this? http://www.jegsworks.com/Lessons/win/filesandfolders/dialog-taskmanager-notepad-vista.gif
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#1300 [14:43] <newtominecraft> My sound isn't working, any suggestions?
#1301 [14:43] <Gone_Ralex> newtominecraft, did oyu just download minecraft?
#1302 [14:43] <ryladine> Igor, What does it say when you are dropped, it should say USERNAME connected, the the dropped message. Does it say quit, disconencted, connection closed?
#1303 [14:43] <Wug> newtominecraft: is the volume stuck at 0%
#1304 [14:43] <newtominecraft> yeah
#1305 [14:43] <evilgamer> no
#1306 [14:43] <buddha> yes
#1307 [14:43] <Igor> ill check
#1308 [14:43] <newtominecraft> no, it's at 100
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#1310 [14:43] <Wug> newtominecraft: double check that it's not muted?
#1311 [14:44] <DylanCl> Does minecraft 1.5.1 use a new version of LWJGL? I need to know because I'm on ubuntu and I need to update my lwjgl to play minecraft
#1312 [14:44] <Gone_Ralex> afaik sounds are downloaded while you play
#1313 [14:44] <Gone_Ralex> DylanCl, you want to use 2.8.4
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#1315 [14:44] <Wug> DylanCl: I don't think so
#1316 [14:44] <DylanCl> Yeah, I'm using that one
#1317 [14:44] <DylanCl> but I get a black screen.
#1318 [14:44] <Atrin> ryladine?
#1319 [14:44] <ryladine> Yes Atrin?
#1320 [14:44] <DylanCl> Hmm. I think I downloaded the wrong version then
#1321 [14:44] <newtominecraft> nope, my sound is muted
#1322 [14:44] <Atrin> i have change my e-mail but i can still no sign in with it
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#1327 [14:45] <evilgamer> umm
#1328 [14:45] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, you said you had the windows task manager open?
#1329 [14:45] <Igor> 2013-03-22 18:22:53 [INFO] Igor lost connection: disconnect.overflow
#1330 [14:45] <evilgamer> yes i do
#1331 [14:45] <ryladine> Atrin, I'm afraid I can't help more than I have. The people here are volunteers, you will need to try contacting mojang if no one else here has had your issue previously and can help with it.
#1332 [14:45] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, click on the windows task manager
#1333 [14:46] <Igor> That's strange,
#1334 [14:46] <newtominecraft> So any suggestions with the sound?
#1335 [14:46] <evilgamer> yeah im in it
#1336 [14:46] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, ah, your internet speeds are too slow to download the information fast enough
#1337 [14:46] <Atrin> ok thancks anyway
#1338 [14:46] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, the server's queue for you is too full so the server kicks you off
#1339 [14:46] <Igor> How can i fix it?
#1340 [14:46] <DylanCl> Wow!
#1341 [14:47] <DylanCl> 1.5.1 really does increase FPS
#1342 [14:47] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, decrease the view-distance in the server.properties is one way
#1343 [14:47] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, what does it say on it?
#1344 [14:47] <Igor> To how much?
#1345 [14:47] <Gone_Ralex> evilgamer, at the top of the thing
#1346 [14:47] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, 8 should be fine
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#1348 [14:47] <ryladine> Igor, you might also try getting out of that area of the map, it may help if it has alot of items on the ground.
#1349 [14:47] <Igor> Will it change to everyone?
#1350 [14:47] <evilgamer> Windows Task Manager
#1351 [14:47] <ryladine> Igor, No. Its a client setting.
#1352 [14:48] <Gone_Ralex> ryladine, no
#1353 [14:48] <Calinou> <DylanCl> 1.5.1 really does increase FPS
#1354 [14:48] <Gone_Ralex> this is a server setting
#1355 [14:48] <Calinou> hello iphone app devloper
#1356 [14:48] <DylanCl> Yeah
#1357 [14:48] <Igor> Well my distance render is On tiny any way :/
#1358 [14:48] <Gone_Ralex> it decreases the number of chunks that are sent to the client
#1359 [14:48] <Calinou> and ubuntu user 8)
#1360 [14:48] <DylanCl> I tought I needed to use optifine to get better FPS.
#1361 [14:48] <Gone_Ralex> which in turn decreases the amount of data sent at once
#1362 [14:48] <Wug> Gone_Ralex: I'm going to do evilgamer
#1363 [14:48] <Calinou> optifine is still good, it brings many new config options
#1364 [14:48] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, go fo rit
#1365 [14:48] <ryladine> Gone_Ralex, Ah, alright. I thought you were refering to the render distance on his client. My apologies.
#1366 [14:48] <newtominecraft> So can I get some help with the sound issue?
#1367 [14:48] <Calinou> I use it yet I can have 120+FPS easily on far+fancy
#1368 [14:48] <DylanCl> I am using ubuntu :D
#1369 [14:48] <evilgamer> what now?
#1370 [14:49] <Wug> evilgamer: now that it's open, can you go to the processes tab and check for a process called either "rlvknlg.exe" or "prmrsr.exe"?
#1371 [14:49] <DylanCl> Well, I get ~25 FPS on a i3 notebook
#1372 [14:49] <DylanCl> wich is fine by me.
#1373 [14:49] <Calinou> xubuntu 12.10 here, i7-2600K+GTX 570 :D
#1374 [14:49] <Wug> Gone_Ralex: what were you originally checking for
#1375 [14:49] <DylanCl> Sorry for asking, but what is the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu?
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#1377 [14:49] <Wug> I might be hunting a different witch
#1378 [14:49] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, java fails to start, i think lack of free mem
#1379 [14:49] <Gone_Ralex> vista and not even 2GB isntalled
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#1381 [14:49] <MCnoob> My sound doesn't work...
#1382 [14:50] <Wug> might just be trying to allocate too much
#1383 [14:50] <MCnoob> I checked the menu and everything seems to be turned on.
#1384 [14:50] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, exe allocates 512 intially, which i would think is not even there on that
#1385 [14:50] <Wug> MCnoob: it would help if you stayed here
#1386 [14:50] <evilgamer> its not there
#1387 [14:50] <Wug> instead of coming and going
#1388 [14:50] <MCnoob> I just joined the room...
#1389 [14:50] <Gone_Ralex> because of the specs, i'd say lack of memory
#1390 [14:50] <Wug> MCnoob: you were here a minute ago called "newtominecraft"
#1391 [14:51] <Wug> then you left and rejoined
#1392 [14:51] <Calinou> DylanCl: xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce as default desktop
#1393 [14:51] <DylanCl> Damn
#1394 [14:51] <DylanCl> Now i have to google xfce
#1395 [14:51] <DylanCl> hang on :P
#1396 [14:51] <Wug> ??> evilgamer teamviewer
#1397 [14:51] <VoxelHead> evilgamer: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is a remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1398 [14:51] <VoxelHead> evilgamer: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1399 [14:51] <DylanCl> wait
#1400 [14:51] <MCnoob> Maybe you should answer the question...I was ignored for the past five minutes.
#1401 [14:51] <DylanCl> that looks like windows
#1402 [14:51] <Gone_Ralex> ??> MCnoob patience
#1403 [14:51] <VoxelHead> MCnoob: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1404 [14:51] <VoxelHead> MCnoob: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#1405 [14:52] <evilgamer> im sorry voxelhead no
#1406 [14:52] <Wug> MCnoob: theres a line
#1407 [14:52] <Gone_Ralex> Wug, we offered that before, so working without it
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#1409 [14:53] <DylanCl> Calinou: You are like, the only one here that knows about linux. How do I allocate more memory to minecraft on ubuntu?
#1410 [14:53] <Gone_Ralex> DylanCl, i know linux >_>
#1411 [14:53] <Gone_Ralex> and that is not hard
#1412 [14:53] <evilgamer> hello anyone helping me
#1413 [14:53] <Gone_Ralex> it is the same as anything else
#1414 [14:53] <Wug> DylanCl: -Xmx[more memory]
#1415 [14:53] <ryladine> evilgamer, Wug is.
#1416 [14:53] <evilgamer> ok
#1417 [14:53] <DylanCl> In a terminal?
#1418 [14:53] <Wug> evilgamer: why don't you want to use teamviewer
#1419 [14:53] <Gone_Ralex> DylanCl, terminal, sh file, any are fine
#1420 [14:53] <Wug> DylanCl: do you know how to launch minecraft from the terminal?
#1421 [14:53] <ryladine> evilgamer, he is offering remote assistance again. I suggest you take it. He is a channel operator and I guarantee he can be trusted.
#1422 [14:54] <DylanCl> not really, no.
#1423 [14:54] <DylanCl> I'm terrible at ubuntu
#1424 [14:54] <evilgamer> i dont realy trust u guys with the my computer im very sorry
#1425 [14:54] <DylanCl> evilgamer: these guys are here like, 5 hours a day
#1426 [14:54] <Wug> DylanCl: you should learn how to use the command line
#1427 [14:54] <DylanCl> helping people
#1428 [14:54] <Wug> evilgamer: We've used teamviewer on hundreds of people
#1429 [14:54] <DylanCl> you should really trust them
#1430 [14:54] <DylanCl> Wug: can I use a .sh file?
#1431 [14:54] <Wug> there's a lot of accountability
#1432 [14:55] <Wug> DylanCl: yeah, but you should learn the command line anyway
#1433 [14:55] <Wug> its a good life skill
#1434 [14:55] <Necrodoom> shouldnt try to force people to use teamviewer, though
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#1436 [14:55] <ryladine> evilgamer, the first time I came here looking for help I allowed the channel staff to use teamviewer on me, they were professional and you can override and terminate the session at any time.
#1437 [14:55] <DylanCl> The only thing I'm using terminal for is doing sudo stuff and now to use it for minecraft. Can you please, please tell me what to do?
#1438 [14:55] <Wug> Necrodoom: it would be faster for me to spend 10 minutes reassuring and then 5 using it for us to solve it by proxy
#1439 [14:56] <Wug> DylanCl: you know the basics of working directories right?
#1440 [14:56] <evilgamer> look i cant download teamveiwer because i cant download to much i downlaol to much things
#1441 [14:56] <DylanCl> I think
#1442 [14:56] <Wug> and what cd does?
#1443 [14:56] <DylanCl> yeah
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#1445 [14:56] <Wug> DylanCl: open a terminal, and cd to where minecraft.jar is
#1446 [14:56] <evilgamer> im getting so much stress
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#1448 [14:56] <DylanCl> the folder?
#1449 [14:56] <Wug> evilgamer: don't stress out
#1450 [14:56] <Wug> DylanCl: yea
#1451 [14:57] <Wug> evilgamer: can you open a command prompt
#1452 [14:57] <DylanCl> alright
#1453 [14:57] <DylanCl> did that
#1454 [14:57] <evilgamer> i will try
#1455 [14:57] <Wug> DylanCl: the invocation is "java -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#1456 [14:57] <Wug> to launch with a specific amount of memory, use
#1457 [14:58] <evilgamer> yeah i opened it
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#1459 [14:58] <Wug> java -Xmx[amount] -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1460 [14:58] <evilgamer> the computer promt is open
#1461 [14:58] <evilgamer> what now
#1462 [14:58] <Wug> evilgamer: ok, is minecraft.exe on your desktop?
#1463 [14:58] <DylanCl> 1G = 1gb?
#1464 [14:58] <Wug> DylanCl: [amount] is either xxxm or xxxG
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#1466 [14:58] <Wug> m for megs, g for gigs
#1467 [14:58] <DylanCl> alright
#1468 [14:59] <Thor> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // You're mean. Time: 3/22/13 1:55 PM Description: Unexpected error java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "" at java.lang.NumberFormatException.forInputString(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Unknown Source) at mod_Timber.isItemAxe(mod_Timber.java:40) at mod_Timber.canTimber(mod_Timber.java:34) at mod_Timber.onTickInGame(mod_Timber.java:25)
#1469 [14:59] <Wug> you might be able to use k too, never tried it
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#1471 [14:59] <DylanCl> Invalid maximum heap size: -Xmx[700m] Could not create the Java virtual machine.
#1472 [14:59] <Wug> wow.
#1473 [14:59] <Necrodoom> no []
#1474 [14:59] <Wug> DylanCl: try a lower number
#1475 [14:59] <DylanCl> alright
#1476 [14:59] <Necrodoom> i think
#1477 [14:59] <Wug> and yeah, no brackets
#1478 [14:59] <Wug> just -Xmx700m
#1479 [14:59] <evilgamer> what do you mean minecraft.exe
#1480 [15:00] <Wug> evilgamer: the program you try to run when you want to play minecraft
#1481 [15:00] <Wug> evilgamer: is it on your desktop?
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#1483 [15:00] <evilgamer> the one that i cant run
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#1486 [15:00] <Wug> yes.
#1487 [15:00] <evilgamer> i think i know what u mean
#1488 [15:00] <DylanCl> http://pastebin.com/MGet621h Wug
#1489 [15:00] <DylanCl> gave me that error
#1490 [15:01] <evilgamer> ok im at my downloads folder should i open the minecraft.exe
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#1492 [15:02] <evilgamer> umm what now
#1493 [15:03] <Wug> evilgamer: copy it to your desktop
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#1495 [15:03] <evilgamer> ok im getting tired now i will be back tomorow sorry
#1496 [15:03] <Wug> evilgamer: minecraft.jar does exist in the folder you're in?
#1497 [15:04] <Wug> evilgamer: you sure you can't use teamviewer? I know exactly what I'm doing and could probably fix it in 5 minutes
#1498 [15:04] <evilgamer> can i do this all tomorow
#1499 [15:04] <evilgamer> im need to go to sleep im very tired
#1500 [15:04] <Wug> allright. good night
#1501 [15:04] <evilgamer> thx bye
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#1505 [15:07] <Wug> evilgamer: minecraft.jar does exist in the folder you're in? <--- DylanCl: this was supposed to be for you
#1506 [15:07] <husoilder4life> i just purchased the game and i cant download it
#1507 [15:07] <DylanCl> Oh :P
#1508 [15:07] <DylanCl> oh
#1509 [15:07] <Wug> husoilder4life: try a different browser
#1510 [15:07] <husoilder4life> like what
#1511 [15:07] <DylanCl> Sorry, I was being a big ******* derp again.
#1512 [15:07] <DylanCl> I used .minecraft
#1513 [15:07] <DylanCl> not bin
#1514 [15:07] <DylanCl> sorry :(
#1515 [15:08] <Wug> DylanCl: that's not what you need anyway
#1516 [15:08] <Wug> where is the downloadable launcher
#1517 [15:08] <Wug> youre supposed to use that
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#1520 [15:08] <DylanCl> oh
#1521 [15:08] <DylanCl> my desktop
#1522 [15:08] <Wug> go there and then reissue the command
#1523 [15:09] <husoilder4life> i cant find the thing to log in the game
#1524 [15:10] <husoilder4life> when i try playing it in browser it says jave is out of date
#1525 [15:11] <husoilder4life> hello?
#1526 [15:11] <DylanCl> Wug: Thousand times thanks!
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#1528 [15:12] <DylanCl> It worked now! :)
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#1530 [15:12] <DylanCl> Also, why does it say adsf when launching? :P
#1531 [15:12] <husoilder4life> hey
#1532 [15:12] <husoilder4life> i cant figure it out
#1533 [15:12] <Wug> DylanCl: im not sure. its probably a debug message they forgot to remove
#1534 [15:12] <husoilder4life> my friend tried downloading a cracked version a while back
#1535 [15:12] <Wug> husoilder4life: update java
#1536 [15:12] <DylanCl> Also
#1537 [15:13] <husoilder4life> ohh
#1538 [15:13] <DylanCl> How do I give minecraft an icon in my taskbar?
#1539 [15:13] <Wug> that will fix java being out of date
#1540 [15:13] <DylanCl> Now it just shows a ?
#1541 [15:13] <Wug> DylanCl: lol I dont know
#1542 [15:13] <DylanCl> ah
#1543 [15:13] <DylanCl> no problems then
#1544 [15:13] <Wug> you have to do something so unity sees it
#1545 [15:13] <Wug> this is something you can google for. i've done it before but dont remember how
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#1552 [15:20] <husoilder4life> i downloaded java
#1553 [15:21] <husoilder4life> then it said that minecraft needs jave 1.5.0
#1554 [15:22] <Wug> husoilder4life: you've removed all the versions of java you had, and installed the one you just downloaded, in that order?
#1555 [15:22] <husoilder4life> i believe so
#1556 [15:23] <husoilder4life> got it
#1557 [15:23] <Wug> did the installation fail?
#1558 [15:24] <husoilder4life> its working now
#1559 [15:24] <Wug> k
#1560 [15:24] <Wug> anything else?
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#1563 [15:26] <husoilder4life> how do i play with people online
#1564 [15:26] <husoilder4life> how do i play with people online
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#1566 [15:26] <Wug> find a server url and connect to it
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#1568 [15:27] <Wug> its not like most other games where theres a centralized list of all servers, theyre all managed independantly
#1569 [15:27] <Cial-> I mitss the central server lis
#1570 [15:27] <Cial-> *central server list
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#1572 [15:28] <Wug> husoilder4life: there are various unofficial lists maintained by the community, like http://minecraftservers.org/
#1573 [15:28] <Avcx> I had a server for minecraft it work perfectly then all of the sudden the port (25565) closed and refused to open. Now I can no longer play with my friends
#1574 [15:28] <Wug> Avcx: make sure your internal ip didnt change
#1575 [15:29] <Avcx> It didnt
#1576 [15:29] <Wug> how sure are you? did you check?
#1577 [15:29] <Wug> did your external ip change then?
#1578 [15:29] <Wug> what address are you giving out
#1579 [15:29] <Avcx> I'll check again
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#1583 [15:31] <Avcx> Default gateway or modem ip
#1584 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Did you happen to port forward to that default gateway ip? If so, it's the wrong address
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#1586 [15:32] <wilma> http://www.fanteamz.com/bloodstock/cc/9/97
#1587 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> !k wilma
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#1590 [15:33] <Avcx> Ok so aperently they change my ip from static to dynamic
#1591 [15:36] <cat> My problem seems a tough one as noone has responded but please anyone. Stuck on Mojang window after update on my mac. Tried force update and reinstall.
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#1593 [15:37] <Wug> cat: do you know how to use the command line
#1594 [15:37] <cat> no
#1595 [15:38] <Wug> cat: ok. download the linux launcher and put it on your desktop, then open a terminal, and tell me when you get that far
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#1598 [15:39] <cat> im on it thanks
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#1603 [15:43] <Boreeas> GreyVulpine: What happened to GreyBot's kick count?
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#1605 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> No idea
#1606 [15:44] <Notenoughspace> The game keeps kicking me off b/c it doesn't have enough space.
#1607 [15:44] <EduardoLamar> My account does not accept mods already installed on several computers and still does not work
#1608 [15:44] <Notenoughspace> How do I download the game itself?
#1609 [15:44] <Wug> Notenoughspace: you mean hard drive space?
#1610 [15:45] <EduardoLamar> yes
#1611 [15:45] <Wug> the save files take up space. delete something to make room
#1612 [15:45] <Notenoughspace> I've been playing the game, but after I play for a bit it logs me out, telling me that I've run out of memory.
#1613 [15:45] <Wug> that's not hard drive space
#1614 [15:46] <Wug> Notenoughspace: download and install 64 bit java
#1615 [15:46] <Notenoughspace> How?
#1616 [15:46] <Notenoughspace> I should rather say, where?
#1617 [15:46] <EduardoLamar> My account does not accept mods already installed on several computers and still does not work?????????????
#1618 [15:46] <Wug> Notenoughspace: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
#1619 [15:46] <Wug> get the second to last one in the list
#1620 [15:46] <Wug> (the exe for 64 bit windows)
#1621 [15:47] <Wug> EduardoLamar: I'm not sure what you mean
#1622 [15:47] <Notenoughspace> I was just about to ask which one, ha. Thanks.
#1623 [15:47] <Wug> you can't install mods? is that it?
#1624 [15:48] <EduardoLamar> My account is not accepting mods I've downloaded to multiple computers not know what to do please help me
#1625 [15:49] <Wug> EduardoLamar: mods and your account are not related.
#1626 [15:49] <Wug> if minecraft is breaking when you try to install them, force update.
#1627 [15:50] <jake02184> please if u can.. I play mindcraft for about 5 minutes and it freezes
#1628 [15:51] <EduardoLamar> I have already installed and installed and excludes more mods not working
#1629 [15:51] <jake02184> running windows 7 64 bit
#1630 [15:51] <Wug> jake02184: the computer you're using is windows xp 32 bit
#1631 [15:51] <jake02184> 8 gig of ram
#1632 [15:52] <EduardoLamar> I am Brazilian I apologize if some words do not come out right
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#1634 [15:52] <jake02184> evga gt640 video card and 2 gig on memory on it
#1635 [15:52] <Wug> jake02184: the computer you're using is windows xp 32 bit
#1636 [15:52] <jake02184> no windows 7 64 bit
#1637 [15:53] <EduardoLamar> I think it's something in my account please help me
#1638 [15:53] <Wug> your version reply reports otherwise and i've never seen it be wrong before
#1639 [15:53] <Wug> EduardoLamar: your account is not the problem
#1640 [15:53] <rymate1234> Lol jake02184
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#1642 [15:54] <cat> wug, i did not install linux but am at the command line/terminal on my mac. will this work or do i need to install linux?
#1643 [15:54] <Wug> EduardoLamar: force update and try again. make sure you're installing the right version and that you're following the direction
#1644 [15:54] <EduardoLamar> So what is the problem because already installed on several computers and does not work
#1645 [15:54] <Wug> cat: the mac terminal is what I meant. installing linux would be a problem
#1646 [15:54] <Wug> don;t try it :D
#1647 [15:55] <jake02184> can anybody help
#1648 [15:55] <cat> great so what do I do now that I am there?
#1649 [15:55] <Wug> cat: anyway. in the terminal, use cd Desktop
#1650 [15:55] <Wug> jake02184: try downloading and installing from here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
#1651 [15:56] <Wug> get the second to last one in the list
#1652 [15:56] <EduardoLamar> I did the installation using another account on another computer and it worked, always more in my account of the error
#1653 [15:56] <Wug> EduardoLamar: it's not your account. period.
#1654 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> EduardoLamar - All your account stores, is whether or not you paid for minecraft, and your skin.
#1655 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> EduardoLamar -That's it. It stores nothing else. World saves are stored locally on the computer, so are texture packs, so are mods.
#1656 [15:57] <Wug> in other words, try to reinstall the mod. Chances are you made a mistake somewhere
#1657 [15:58] <cat> I am in terminal but dont see anything about cd desktop. ONly says terminal-bash-80x12 at top
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#1659 [15:59] <Wug> cat: type cd Desktop
#1660 [15:59] <Wug> into the terminal, then press enter
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#1663 [16:00] <cat> did that
#1664 [16:00] <EduardoLamar> the game works so does not accept any mod, I'm the first to complain about it?
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#1667 [16:02] <Ryladine> EduardoLamar, this channel isn't for mod support, we can't help you get them to work here. You need to go the the mod creators for assistance.
#1668 [16:02] <cat> wug, i typed it in
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#1670 [16:03] <Wug> cat: did it say anything back
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#1672 [16:04] <cat> wug, it replied with my name and password of computer
#1673 [16:05] <Wug> what?
#1674 [16:05] <Extreme> ^
#1675 [16:05] <Wug> that's not whats supposed to happen
#1676 [16:05] <Wug> nothing should be able to tell you what your password was
#1677 [16:05] <Extreme> It can't happen
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#1679 [16:05] <Wug> not even the computer
#1680 [16:05] <Wug> unless it's your username >.>
#1681 [16:06] <cat> wug, now it says no such file or directory and username it was
#1682 [16:07] <Wug> cat: it doesn't work if you use it more than once in a row
#1683 [16:07] <Wug> but if you used it again, and it did something different, it probably worked the first time
#1684 [16:08] <Wug> cat: use ls minecraft.jar and tell me what it says
#1685 [16:08] <cat> wug, says no such file or directory
#1686 [16:09] <Wug> cat: use pwd and tell me what it says
#1687 [16:10] <cat> wug, says users/laliatunson/desktop
#1688 [16:10] <Extreme> Your already there then
#1689 [16:11] <Wug> ok. I said to download the linux launcher and put it on your desktop, you remembered to do that right?
#1690 [16:12] <cat> wug, you then said that to install linux would be a problem and don't do it
#1691 [16:13] <Wug> you don't need to install linux to have the linux launcher
#1692 [16:13] <Wug> I only meant the minecraft launcher
#1693 [16:13] <Wug> ?? linux/client
#1694 [16:13] <Extreme> It's just a jar
#1695 [16:13] <VoxelHead> linux/client: http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
#1696 [16:14] <cat> wug, I have the minecraft launcher but do I still need the linux launcher?
#1697 [16:14] <Extreme> Executable Jar files can be opened with any computer with java installed
#1698 [16:14] <Extreme> cat, get it
#1699 [16:15] <cat> extreme, i shall
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#1701 [16:23] <Wug> stick it on your desktop when you have it
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#1715 [16:33] <Rob|Home> Hey, anyone know if there's a mod to keep spawners you select running when you're not near to them?
#1716 [16:34] <Lutzee> Rob|Home: not really, the games mechanics will kind of prevent it due to how spawning works
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#1718 [16:34] <cat> ok thanks wug and extreme haev to go now bye
#1719 [16:34] <Rob|Home> i know there's a mod to change spawning rated and what can be spawned... but i was hoping there was one to just keep em running.
#1720 [16:35] <Rob|Home> rates
#1721 [16:35] <Rob|Home> but thanks anyway
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#1723 [16:36] <freeko> Can anyone tell me why i got this crash: http://pastebin.com/dGhQCjfU
#1724 [16:37] <freeko> hello?
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#1726 [16:38] <Lutzee> ?? mods
#1727 [16:38] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1728 [16:38] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1738 [16:54] <jprazz209> I am unable to download minecraft to my mac as my son forgot the password and entered the wrong email address.... His account is jprazz209
#1739 [16:54] <BrickViking> we are unable to help with that. We suggest you go to help.mojang.com
#1740 [16:55] <Gone_Ralex> jprazz209, you will need to email mojang with your trans id and get them to help you
#1741 [16:55] <Gone_Ralex> ??> jprazz209 mojang/email
#1742 [16:55] <VoxelHead> jprazz209: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1743 [16:55] <BrickViking> that may be the problem if he doesn't have the transaction ID.
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#1745 [16:56] <wiphand> I have this problem ever since the newest apple mac os update that minecraft crashes directly after login, i have tried all the number of standard solving issues like reinstalling mc, the crash report talks about the JAWT and i have asked on forums and other places and its because apple is messing arround with java in the system and now you can only have java 7 on macs, i tried everything possible to revert back but it does not work, so ha
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#1748 [17:00] <mtsjtclinch06> Hi
#1749 [17:00] <mtsjtclinch06> Can i get help?
#1750 [17:00] <Gone_Ralex> wiphand, have you tried updating lwjgl
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#1752 [17:03] <wiphand> Gone_Ralex: yeah i have, but nothing changed. exactly the same error
#1753 [17:03] <wiphand> should i pastebin the error?
#1754 [17:03] <Gone_Ralex> yes
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#1759 [17:05] <Igor> Hello it's me again. I've fixed the problem of the disconnect
#1760 [17:05] <Igor> but i have another problem
#1761 [17:06] <Igor> Whenever i want to chat or use command ,i need to say it and than relog to the server and than people will see it (me too)
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#1763 [17:06] <Igor> As soon as i type it people can see it but i can't see my own chat or their chat.
#1764 [17:07] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, can you go to http://speedtest.net and run that test?
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#1766 [17:07] <Igor> Sure,1 sec.
#1767 [17:08] <lgood> so I can't delete and redownload my minecraft. Its glitched so I want to.. but I can't because it says something is running it can anyone help?
#1768 [17:08] <Igor> 12.82m/b
#1769 [17:08] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, download?
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#1771 [17:09] <Igor> Low,0.76 (it was like that since i started to play 2 years ago) and it was ok until today.
#1772 [17:09] <lgood> anyone?
#1773 [17:09] <spa> Hi I keep getting crash reports
#1774 [17:10] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, there is a "share this result" button the page, can you click that and give us the link
#1775 [17:10] <lgood> mine is not a crash its not being able to delete it
#1776 [17:10] <spa> I'm running a MacBook
#1777 [17:10] <Gone_Ralex> ??> spa pastebin
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#1779 [17:10] <VoxelHead> spa: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1780 [17:10] <Igor> Gone can we make private chat?
#1781 [17:10] <Gone_Ralex> lgood, do oyu have minecraft open
#1782 [17:10] <spa> Where do I send the crash report file
#1783 [17:10] <lgood> no.
#1784 [17:10] <lgood> I do not
#1785 [17:11] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, for the image?
#1786 [17:11] <Igor> No,in total it will be easier for me to chat.
#1787 [17:11] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, we prefer public chat so that others can help you if needed
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#1789 [17:11] <Igor> oh well
#1790 [17:11] <Igor> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2592898369.png
#1791 [17:11] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, if you don't see me put your name in front of the line, it will not be for you, and your irc client should make it stand out
#1792 [17:12] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, okay, that ruled out one thought i had
#1793 [17:12] <lgood> gone ralex I do not have my minecraft open
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#1795 [17:12] <Gone_Ralex> lgood, do you have anything open
#1796 [17:12] <Gone_Ralex> that is not this browser
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#1798 [17:13] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, if you send a message, do oyu never get it even if you wait?
#1799 [17:13] <wiphand> Gone_Ralex: sorry for the delay, the paste bin link is: http://pastebin.com/2S6jeXzu
#1800 [17:13] <Igor> well sometimes i get message after 5mins
#1801 [17:13] <Igor> but when i send they get it but i can't see on my chat that they got it
#1802 [17:13] <Igor> i have to check the console if they got it and answered on it
#1803 [17:14] <Gone_Ralex> wiphand, one sec, have to find a link
#1804 [17:14] <lgood> ralex, no I do not when I try to (nothing extra of the normal underprograms that run the coputer
#1805 [17:14] <lgood> *computer*
#1806 [17:14] <Gone_Ralex> lgood, restart your computer and try to delete it
#1807 [17:14] <lgood> I tried that
#1808 [17:14] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, hm, is this a pure vanilla server?
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#1810 [17:14] <Igor> No it's not
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#1812 [17:16] <Gone_Ralex> wiphand_, try this lwjgl: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6gj27dmoyo0h0j/macosx.zip (http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,4711.msg26517.html#msg26517)
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#1814 [17:17] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, when did this start happening
#1815 [17:17] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, do you recall any changes you made at the time it stopped working
#1816 [17:17] <Igor> 20mins after i patched my mc (6~5hours ago)
#1817 [17:18] <wiphand_> i will try this version, thanx
#1818 [17:18] <Igor> no i just normaly was running my server
#1819 [17:18] <Igor> and it was like a hit
#1820 [17:18] <Igor> vam i got disconnected
#1821 [17:18] <Igor> and since then it stopped to work normaly
#1822 [17:18] <Igor> bam**
#1823 [17:20] <Igor> is it possible that the problem causing by OpenGL or something?
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#1825 [17:20] <Gone_Ralex> Igor, i doubt it
#1826 [17:21] <wiphand_> i tried the new version and still the exact same error with same crash report
#1827 [17:21] <Igor> i just had something in mind
#1828 [17:21] <Igor> Oh and another thing , from time to time it stables and the chat works fine
#1829 [17:21] <Igor> but after awhile i get the problem again,
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#1831 [17:25] <wiphand_> i've been searching for a long while so i think its either a complicated problem or a very in depth in java coding so i guess i'll have to wait till somebody finds a fix, anyway, thank you guys
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#1835 [17:25] <Igor> Can a plugin cause such problems?
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#1845 [17:34] <john_> I can't run minecraft demo version on my computer. I've downloaded all updates but demo won't work
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#1848 [17:35] <Wolf_> My minecraft wont connect how do i fix that?
#1849 [17:35] <Wolf_> My minecraft wont connect how do i fix that?
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#1853 [17:37] <Igor> hmm i hate THIS bug,it so annoys. Gone_Ralex_ Is there much options what could cause this>
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#1855 [17:38] <husoilder4life> how do i find muiltiplayer sessions
#1856 [17:38] <ofna01> Huso, you need to find servers
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#1858 [17:38] <ofna01> minecraftservers.org has some good ones
#1859 [17:39] <Gone_Ralex> ??> husoilder4life smp/servers
#1860 [17:39] <VoxelHead> husoilder4life: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1861 [17:39] <VoxelHead> husoilder4life: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
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#1863 [17:41] <husoilder4life> how do i join one?
#1864 [17:41] <Gone_Ralex> log in to the game, select Multiplayer
#1865 [17:41] <Gone_Ralex> then "add server", and add the ip
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#1869 [17:44] <husoilder4life> this is confusing can someone give me a ip for a economy server
#1870 [17:45] <Gone_Ralex> husoilder4life, you have to find one
#1871 [17:46] <rymate1234> we're not allowed to advertise
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#1874 [17:48] <Facehead> Hi there, I just downloaded Minecraft and it won't start up. I believe my system should run this. Can someone walk me through?
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#1888 [17:55] <Nishanthgurram> Hi
#1889 [17:56] <nastin> Hey, i'm having trouble with buying/creating a minecraft account
#1890 [17:57] <Nishanthgurram> I would like to speak to some one who can help me in resolving technical issues of mine craft account
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#1892 [17:57] <Gone_Ralex> Nishanthgurram, just ask
#1893 [17:57] <Gone_Ralex> or state the issue is probably a better way to put it
#1894 [17:57] <Nishanthgurram> It is not allowing me to login
#1895 [17:58] <Gone_Ralex> Have you purchased the game?
#1896 [17:58] <Gone_Ralex> Actually, better yet, where are you logging in at now?
#1897 [17:58] <Nishanthgurram> I have purchased nearly 6 months ago
#1898 [17:58] <Nishanthgurram> From Netherlands
#1899 [17:59] <Gone_Ralex> Nishanthgurram, where as in where are you logging in
#1900 [17:59] <Gone_Ralex> Mojang.com, minecraft.net, launcher?
#1901 [17:59] <Nishanthgurram> Give me contact number, I can call
#1902 [17:59] <Gone_Ralex> Nishanthgurram, there is no number
#1903 [18:00] <Nishanthgurram> Mine craft.net
#1904 [18:00] <Gone_Ralex> Nishanthgurram, and what error do you get
#1905 [18:00] <Nishanthgurram> Login or password error
#1906 [18:00] <Gone_Ralex> Nishanthgurram, haave you tried setting it
#1907 [18:00] <Gone_Ralex> reseting8
#1908 [18:00] <Nishanthgurram> I have my account name and order number
#1909 [18:00] <Nishanthgurram> No
#1910 [18:01] <Gone_Ralex> Nishanthgurram, try a password reset then
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#1912 [18:01] <Gone_Ralex> Nishanthgurram, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#1913 [18:02] <nastin> hey gone_ralex. are you from mojang or something?
#1914 [18:02] <Gone_Ralex> nlo
#1915 [18:02] <Gone_Ralex> no*
#1916 [18:02] <Nishanthgurram> It is coming as bad authencity error
#1917 [18:02] <Gone_Ralex> no one here is
#1918 [18:03] <Gone_Ralex> Nishanthgurram, what is? that link?
#1919 [18:03] <Nishanthgurram> I have purchased earlier
#1920 [18:03] <nastin> if you make a mojang account, do you have to make a separate minecraft account?
#1921 [18:03] <Nishanthgurram> Mine craft site, I have just given username
#1922 [18:03] <Gone_Ralex> nastin, no
#1923 [18:04] <Gone_Ralex> nastin, you cannot create a minecraft.net account anymore
#1924 [18:04] <Nishanthgurram> Is there any way, I can speak to you
#1925 [18:04] <Gone_Ralex> nastin, when you buy the game, you get to choose your username
#1926 [18:04] <Gone_Ralex> Nishanthgurram, no
#1927 [18:04] <Nishanthgurram> Yes
#1928 [18:04] <Gone_Ralex> Nishanthgurram, do you use your email or username to log in to the game before
#1929 [18:04] <nastin> okay, so the mojang account is the same info as minecraft account?
#1930 [18:04] <Nishanthgurram> I have user name and confirmation mail with me
#1931 [18:05] <Gone_Ralex> nastin, the mojang account will hold your minecraft account stuff
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#1933 [18:06] <Nishanthgurram> Need help here, not able to follow you really
#1934 [18:06] <Nishanthgurram> I am getting error,
#1935 [18:06] <nastin> ok, cause i created a mojang account, then bought minecraft, but it wont let me log in. using the same username/password that i created the mojang account with
#1936 [18:06] <NinjaKirby> ??< mac/10.5/mc1.5
#1937 [18:07] <Nishanthgurram> Is there any way, you can password to my mail I'd
#1938 [18:07] <Gone_Ralex> nastin, you use your email to log in
#1939 [18:07] <nastin> i did, thats what i mean by username
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#1941 [18:07] <Gone_Ralex> nastin, and what error did it give you
#1942 [18:07] <nastin> it says login failed, on the minecraft launcher
#1943 [18:08] <Nishanthgurram> I have given username
#1944 [18:08] <nastin> but i've logged in and out of the mojang website several time
#1945 [18:08] <Nishanthgurram> It says that bad authencity
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#1947 [18:10] <nastin> it seems i never recieved the "Redemption link" after purchasing minecraft, but i did recieve the e-mail verification link
#1948 [18:10] <Nishanthgurram> I have e- mail verification
#1949 [18:11] <Nishanthgurram> Including transaction ID
#1950 [18:11] <nastin> for me?
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#1952 [18:11] <nastin> oh nvm lol
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#1954 [18:12] <MaximusTT> hi all
#1955 [18:12] <MaximusTT> who can help me ?
#1956 [18:12] <MaximusTT> any adm from minecraft on ?
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#1959 [18:15] <nastin> anyone else able to help?
#1960 [18:15] <benhunter09> ?? Ask
#1961 [18:15] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1962 [18:15] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1963 [18:16] <nastin> i'm having trouble logging in to the minecraft launcher. i'm using the same email/password i created my mojang account with
#1964 [18:17] <nastin> and it seems i never recieved an email after purchasing the game
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#1966 [18:17] <nastin> is there a way to check if i even sucessfully purchased the game?
#1967 [18:17] <mugabo> i cant purchase the game for some reason
#1968 [18:17] <Gone_Ralex> nastin, check your bank statements and see if you were charged is one
#1969 [18:18] <Gone_Ralex> nastin, some banks will block international transactions unless you approve it
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#1971 [18:18] <nastin> i did gone_ralex, my online bank doesn't show me my transactions
#1972 [18:19] <Gone_Ralex> nastin, you might have to call them then
#1973 [18:19] <nastin> closed >.<
#1974 [18:20] <mugabo> when i try to purchase it says that i am missing info
#1975 [18:24] <mugabo> can anyone help me/
#1976 [18:25] <tyteen4a03> mugabo, the best you can do right now is to wait
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#1982 [18:34] <chaz> can I download and play minecraft free version?
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#1984 [18:37] <ofna01> No
#1985 [18:37] <ofna01> There is a demo available on the site, but otherwise you have to buy it
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#1987 [18:41] <chaz> My on and his sister play multiplayer on thier tablet, what are they playing because he wants me to download but it keep saying login fail
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#1989 [18:41] <chaz> download on the desktp
#1990 [18:42] <tyteen4a03> chaz, Minecraft PE for Android and iOS is a separate game from Minecraft for Windows, Linux and Mac
#1991 [18:42] <tyteen4a03> chaz, the two versions cannot play multiplayer together
#1992 [18:43] <chaz> how does play on a windows computer
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#1995 [18:44] <tyteen4a03> chaz, you need to first buy Minecraft for PC (which is $26.95), then you will be able to play on PC
#1996 [18:45] <chaz> but they can play free on the tablets? because I did not buy it for the tablet
#1997 [18:48] <tyteen4a03> chaz, the tablet version costs $6.99
#1998 [18:49] <chaz> Ok, thanks for all your help.
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#2000 [18:51] <Cabraharp> I Can't log in despite resetting my password repeatedly.
#2001 [18:53] <Cabraharp> Hello
#2002 [18:53] <Cabraharp> I Can't log in despite resetting my password repeatedly.
#2003 [18:55] <BrickViking> We heard. I don't know the answer.
#2004 [18:55] <BrickViking> what are you using for a username? Your email address?
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#2006 [18:56] <larry_> can someone help me- i try to open in browser and all i get is a black screen
#2007 [18:56] <larry_> can someone help me- i try to open in browser and all i get is a black screen
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#2009 [18:58] <tyteen4a03> larry_, use the standalone launcher available at http://minecraft.net/download
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#2012 [19:01] <averyasher> I just updated to 1.5.1 on my mac and now mine craft just sits at the "done loading" screen. Please help asap
#2013 [19:03] <tyteen4a03> averyasher, has Minecrat worked before?
#2014 [19:03] <averyasher> yes, until now it hasn't
#2015 [19:03] <averyasher> do you know the problem?
#2016 [19:04] <tyteen4a03> ??> averyasher mac/reinst
#2017 [19:04] <VoxelHead> averyasher: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2018 [19:04] <VoxelHead> averyasher: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2019 [19:04] <averyasher> ok, I will let you know if it works
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#2022 [19:05] <averyasher> application support vanished
#2023 [19:06] <tyteen4a03> ??> averyasher mac/.minecraft/lion
#2024 [19:06] <VoxelHead> averyasher: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#2025 [19:07] <averyasher> nothing happened
#2026 [19:07] <tyteen4a03> averyasher, try looking for Application Support again
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#2028 [19:08] <averyasher> I could not find it but I went to my minecraft folder
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#2030 [19:10] <averyasher> I really want to get this fiexed so I can play with others
#2031 [19:10] <averyasher> fixed*
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#2033 [19:11] <tyteen4a03> averyasher, eh?
#2034 [19:12] <tyteen4a03> averyasher, you should be looking in your own Library, not the system's
#2035 [19:12] <averyasher> I was
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#2037 [19:13] <averyasher> why is this not working :(
#2038 [19:14] <tyteen4a03> averyasher, do you see the bin folder and the resources folder?
#2039 [19:14] <averyasher> yes
#2040 [19:14] <tyteen4a03> averyasher, you're in the correct folder then
#2041 [19:14] <tyteen4a03> averyasher, drag the bin folder and the resources folder to the trash, then it should start working again
#2042 [19:15] <tyteen4a03> averyasher, also, throw the texturepacks folder away if you had any
#2043 [19:16] <averyasher> now stuck at "mojang" screen
#2044 [19:16] <averyasher> wait
#2045 [19:16] <averyasher> it worked!
#2046 [19:16] <averyasher> tyvm guys
#2047 [19:17] <averyasher> if I have other problems, I will let you know
#2048 [19:17] <tyteen4a03> averyasher, no problem
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#2052 [19:19] <averyasher> no there is no sound
#2053 [19:20] <averyasher> sound in some things only now
#2054 [19:20] <averyasher> got sound working
#2055 [19:20] <tyteen4a03> averyasher, sound are downloaded once you launch the game and may take a while
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#2060 [19:28] <nastin> hey. so is anyone having trouble buying minecraft?
#2061 [19:29] <nastin> herrooo?
#2062 [19:30] <nastin> i can see ya'llz on the side there. someone should help me
#2063 [19:31] <nastin> why can't i buy minecraft? i'm trying to throw my money at these guys and it wont work
#2064 [19:32] <Rmarmorstein> What is going on, maybe try telling us what is happening, why it wont let you?
#2065 [19:33] <nastin> idk, there seems to be an issue with the "verified by visa" step.
#2066 [19:34] <nastin> i went to the verified by visa website to try to set my card up with that and it just doesn't work. and now minecraft is giving me this message:
#2067 [19:34] <nastin> Credit/debit card deposits disabled You can not use your credit/debit card for the next 24 hours. This restriction cannot be lifted manually by you or our service team. Please return to the website of the Merchant where you will receive further instructions.
#2068 [19:34] <tyteen4a03> nastin, throwing money at Mojansters will sadly not automatically give you Minecraft
#2069 [19:34] <nastin> haha, but it totally should
#2070 [19:34] <tyteen4a03> nastin, you need to call your bank and have them allow International transactions
#2071 [19:35] <Rmarmorstein> If, it is a prepaid card, try calling a support number and explain the error message, and they should be able to help the best
#2072 [19:35] <nastin> allow international transactions? is that something specific to buying minecraft? because i've bought things like world of warcraft with my card before
#2073 [19:35] <Rmarmorstein> since, it seems like an error on that end of things
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#2075 [19:35] <tyteen4a03> nastin, Mojang is a Swedish company
#2076 [19:35] <nastin> ok. i'll have to check that out then
#2077 [19:35] <tyteen4a03> Rmarmorstein, prepaid VISA cards cannot buy Minecraft due to the high rate of fraud associated with these kind of cards
#2078 [19:36] <Rmarmorstein> Hmm, i did fine, but i went through card/paypal
#2079 [19:36] <tyteen4a03> Rmarmorstein, if you topped up your paypal account and use your paypal account to pay for it, it will work fine
#2080 [19:36] <Rmarmorstein> nastin: I'd suggest calling the support number for the card
#2081 [19:36] <Rmarmorstein> tyteen4a03: I added the card to my paypal, then paid via paypal
#2082 [19:37] <Rmarmorstein> so yeah
#2083 [19:37] <tyteen4a03> Rmarmorstein, that would work too
#2084 [19:37] <nastin> hmm. maybe i'll have to try using paypal...
#2085 [19:37] <Rmarmorstein> you can add it as a card from the account, then on the payment screen you can select where the money comes from i hink
#2086 [19:37] <Rmarmorstein> think
#2087 [19:37] <Rmarmorstein> you would choose that card
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#2094 [19:44] <kai_> minecraft won't open on my laptop
#2095 [19:44] <kai_> help
#2096 [19:44] <kai_> ?
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#2103 [19:48] <QsMom> Just wondering if anyone knows why my son's computer would flag the minecraft game? I can't locate any information on here about the ratings and his parental controls are set to allow anything rated Teen and under.
#2104 [19:50] <Bugboy1028> Oh.
#2105 [19:50] <oldtopman> QsMom: What software is flagging it?
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#2108 [19:51] <iToke> Hey there can anybody help me figure out why MC keeps crashing after I install SPC?
#2109 [19:51] <Bugboy1028> is SPC mod?
#2110 [19:51] <iToke> Yes
#2111 [19:51] <iToke> and google has been of no help to me
#2112 [19:51] <Bugboy1028> We only support non-modded current releases.
#2113 [19:51] <iToke> and I don't know how to read crash reports
#2114 [19:52] <iToke> Blast... alright
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#2116 [19:52] <Bugboy1028> but can you show me......
#2117 [19:52] <Bugboy1028> =.=
#2118 [19:52] <Bugboy1028> where's that damn mouse
#2119 [19:52] <Bugboy1028> found it
#2120 [19:53] <QsMom> I had to download Java first onto his laptop. After that clicked onto the Minecraft icon on his desktop and it said that there is content he is unable to view and asked if I wanted to consent to it by entering the Master password.
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#2122 [19:53] <Bugboy1028> QsMom, what kind of Parent Control software are you using?
#2123 [19:54] <Bugboy1028> QsMom?
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#2125 [19:54] <QsMom> Windows Family Safety
#2126 [19:55] <Anywaytospeed> Is there any simple way to speed up gameplay? It always starts off quick, then lags.
#2127 [19:55] <oldtopman> QsMom: This is probably because Minecraft is not rated by the ESRB.
#2128 [19:56] <Bugboy1028> QsMom, is there control panek for Windows Family Safety?
#2129 [19:56] <cestislife> Anywaytospeed: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-
#2130 [19:56] <Bugboy1028> QsMom, is there control panel / settings for Windows Family Safety? *
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#2132 [19:57] <tyteen4a03> Bugboy1028, I would advise boldfacing things unless you're 100% certain the user did not read
#2133 [19:58] <Bugboy1028> wat?
#2134 [19:58] <tyteen4a03> 18<Bugboy1028> We only support non-modded current releases.
#2135 [19:58] <tyteen4a03> uh, advise against
#2136 [19:58] <Bugboy1028> XD
#2137 [19:58] <Bugboy1028> I knows what you meant anyways, and sorry
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#2145 [20:00] <QsMom> ugh got booted.
#2146 [20:01] <Bugboy1028> QsMom, is there control panel / settings for Windows Family Safety?
#2147 [20:01] <QsMom> anyways, if the person that was helping me is still here...It's an older computer and I had my exhusband help me set up the parental controls. I didn't put any restrictions on downloads, games are set at teen and under, and web is only set to block sexual content.
#2148 [20:01] <Bugboy1028> I'm still here.
#2149 [20:02] <Bugboy1028> Add unrated game to game filter
#2150 [20:02] <Bugboy1028> since MineCraft is not rated yet.
#2151 [20:02] <QsMom> lol. I can set the computer up to no longer ask for my password when he plays, my thing is why is it being flagged in the first place?
#2152 [20:02] <QsMom> ahhh ic
#2153 [20:03] <QsMom> since I am unfamiliar, is there any reason I should be concerned about the game for his age? He is 10.
#2154 [20:05] <QsMom> He knows not to go onto chats, but is there anything inappropriate during game play? To me it just looks like an advanced lego/survivor game :/
#2155 [20:05] <Lutzee> There shouldn't be, just let him play the single player mode and he will be fine
#2156 [20:05] <Gone_Ralex> QsMom, in single-player, there really is nothing inappropriate or bad
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#2158 [20:05] <QsMom> ok thank you very much :)
#2159 [20:06] <Bugboy1028> If your son is bored
#2160 [20:06] <Bugboy1028> ahh.. nvm
#2161 [20:06] <Bugboy1028> He will find out later
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#2163 [20:07] <QsMom> ummm ?
#2164 [20:07] <Bugboy1028> QsMom, keep this website in mind, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
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#2166 [20:07] <Bugboy1028> it's useful website for your son
#2167 [20:07] <Bugboy1028> It's like Wikipedia
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#2169 [20:08] <Computerdude1998> When first launching, the game stays on "Done Loading" what is causing this?
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#2181 [20:19] <Jazz> when I log into minecraft the program starts and then does not let me play. the scren goes white or the program on my computer just shuts down. What does this mean?
#2182 [20:22] <Jazz> Hello?
#2183 [20:22] <Bugboy1028> Ok, You have windows and you're from Dallas, TX?
#2184 [20:23] <Jazz> no, im in oregon
#2185 [20:23] <Jazz> but i do operate on windows
#2186 [20:23] <Bugboy1028> NT 6.1?
#2187 [20:23] <Jazz> what is that?
#2188 [20:23] <Bugboy1028> Windows OS?
#2189 [20:24] <Bugboy1028> XP, Vista, 7 , 89
#2190 [20:24] <Bugboy1028> XP, Vista, 7 , 8 *
#2191 [20:24] <Jazz> I think i have windows 7
#2192 [20:24] <Lutzee> 6.1 is windows 7
#2193 [20:24] <Bugboy1028> ah
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#2195 [20:25] <Bugboy1028> Jazz, you will needs to wait about 10 mins or shorter
#2196 [20:25] <Jazz> ah, what? How do I fix this
#2197 [20:25] <Bugboy1028> but
#2198 [20:25] <Bugboy1028> in meanwhile
#2199 [20:25] <Bugboy1028> ?? forceupdate
#2200 [20:25] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2201 [20:25] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2202 [20:25] <Bugboy1028> Do this, jazz
#2203 [20:26] <Jazz> it says the server is working to hard
#2204 [20:27] <Bugboy1028> !status
#2205 [20:27] <Jazz> ?
#2206 [20:27] <Bugboy1028> !mcstatus
#2207 [20:27] <Bugboy1028> ugh.
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#2210 [20:28] <Bugboy1028> ok, Jazz try again
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#2212 [20:29] <Jazz> I tried to log out to find the options button but it gave me the "i have just ran a mile in 5 seconds talk to me later"
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#2215 [20:31] <Jazz> So Bugboy told me to find the options button and force update and I don't see it
#2216 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> ??> Jazz forceupdate
#2217 [20:31] <VoxelHead> Jazz: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
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#2219 [20:31] <VoxelHead> Jazz: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2220 [20:32] <Guest58411> I have been trying to run Minecraft Launcher but failed
#2221 [20:32] <Jazz> I tried deleting then downloading the program again and it didn't work.
#2222 [20:32] <Jazz> I also paid for the minecraft game as well
#2223 [20:33] <Guest58411> I paid the minecraft game too. The following are the steps that I used and the error messages that I got.
#2224 [20:33] <Guest58411> 1. I clicked 'Minecraft Launcher'
#2225 [20:33] <Guest58411> 2. I input 'Username' and 'Password', and then press 'Login in'.
#2226 [20:33] <Guest58411> 3. A message pop up: New update available, would you like to update? I press 'not for now'
#2227 [20:33] <Guest58411> 4. A message pop up: Updating Minecraft, Done loading. Screen hangs
#2228 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> ??> Guest58411 forceupdate
#2229 [20:34] <VoxelHead> Guest58411: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2230 [20:34] <VoxelHead> Guest58411: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2231 [20:34] <Guest58411> After step 4, I still cannot play minecraft. There is not bottom for me to click
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#2233 [20:34] <Guest58411> thanks so much! let me try
#2234 [20:35] <Zathrus> is there any way to play the demo without the java plugin? IE -- download it?
#2235 [20:35] <Jazz> The message is not popoing up for me
#2236 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Zathrus - There is not
#2237 [20:36] <Zathrus> GreyVulpine: sigh. Then it's rather hard to play on a Mac.
#2238 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, there is a known issue with the demo on macs.
#2239 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> The premium, downloadable version of minecraft works fine on a mac though.
#2240 [20:37] <Zathrus> GreyVulpine: that's a problem -- my daughters are interested in playing, but I want them to try before we buy.
#2241 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Zathrus - Happen to have another computer that's not running mac? Or have a windows VM that you can try minecraft with?
#2242 [20:39] <Jazz> Im still haveing trouble getting the damn game to work
#2243 [20:39] <Jazz> it keeps booting me out yet my account is premium
#2244 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Jazz - Did you try a force update?
#2245 [20:40] <Jazz> Thats what I have been trying to do but the options button is illuding me.
#2246 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Please see the link at the end of VoxelHead's instructions
#2247 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> ??> Jazz forceupdate
#2248 [20:40] <VoxelHead> Jazz: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2249 [20:40] <VoxelHead> Jazz: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2250 [20:40] <Jazz> its not next to the log in and I went int to my account info and nothing is there
#2251 [20:40] <Zathrus> GreyVulpine: yeah, but that doesn't solve the Java Plugin issue; the plugin is simply too insecure to enable. I know MC is safe, but it's a generalized issue (and I'm a Java/C/C++/whatever programmer, so I understand the difference between the plugin and the language)
#2252 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Zathrus - The long and short of it is, Apple's decided that the java web applet is insecure, so it's forced everybody's macs to disable it. Without the web applet, there is no way to play the demo on minecraft.
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#2254 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> There is really nothing I can do to help anybody on macs with it.
#2255 [20:41] <Jazz> Oh I see i found it you can't see it unless you have that little window on the computer
#2256 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Jazz - You can download the downloadable launcher from www.minecraft.net/download
#2257 [20:42] <Jazz> I pressed force update what now?
#2258 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Jazz - Log in as normal
#2259 [20:44] <Zathrus> GreyVulpine: that's because it *is* insecure; the PCs I have are older and only have integrated graphics.
#2260 [20:45] <Jazz> The screen for the minecraft launcher just did a disapearing act when i logged in
#2261 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Sorry Zathrus, there really is nothing I can do to help you. And the vulnerability only exists, as far as I know, on java 7. It does not exist on java 6. Unfortunately, apple's also disabled the java preferences window so that I can't even walk people through downgrading/choosing the older version over the newer one.
#2262 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Will be right back, out to grab some food
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#2266 [20:49] <Zathrus> GreyVulpine: ah well... the devs should really consider fixing that. Can't demo, can't decide to buy 2-3 copies. Relying on the java plugin is just a poor choice, as it's clear that Oracle is unable/unwilling to fix the Reflection API to sufficiently secure things for the plugin to not be 0-day'd immediately upon release.
#2267 [20:49] <iBattaglia> hey im a first time user for minecraft was wondering how do i set it up lol, i have mac os x i dlowned the .zip then put it in applications, thenstarted it then i needed an account so i clicked register,
#2268 [20:49] <iBattaglia> but its asking for username and all i had was email
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#2274 [20:51] <james> wont play now that i downloaded
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#2277 [20:51] <iGrappleFTW> I am having some trouble with my Minecraft games. There is no sound other than the sound of breaking/placing blocks and taking damge. All of my sounds and music are set to 100%. what do i do?
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#2279 [20:53] <cestislife> iGrappleFTW: Stay in game for at least 15 minutes or so, sound packages are downloaded after you get in the game.
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#2281 [20:53] <iGrappleFTW> Oh ok i will try thT
#2282 [20:53] <cestislife> If still that's all you hear, your security program might be blocking the client from downloading the sounds.
#2283 [20:53] <iBattaglia> hey im a first time user for minecraft was wondering how do i set it up lol, i have mac os x i dlowned the .zip then put it in applications, thenstarted it then i needed an account so i clicked register,
#2284 [20:53] <cestislife> You need to first purchase an account to play.
#2285 [20:54] <iBattaglia> u ahve to pay for minecraft???
#2286 [20:54] <cestislife> Yes.
#2287 [20:54] <iBattaglia> b4 i play what do u do in minecraft
#2288 [20:54] <cestislife> Google.
#2289 [20:54] <cestislife> Or you could check out the wiki - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#2290 [20:55] <cestislife> Or you can try the demo - http://minecraft.net/demo
#2291 [20:55] <iBattaglia> like what kind of game is it? do i just build shit, oh its like google? lmao thanks glad IRC channels are around cause i would ahve never of thought of googling it lmao
#2292 [20:55] <Zathrus> cestislife: he can't try the demo.
#2293 [20:55] <cestislife> I beg your pardon Zathrus?
#2294 [20:55] <Zathrus> cestislife: he's on OS X. He cannot try the demo.
#2295 [20:55] <cestislife> Oh
#2296 [20:55] <cestislife> Right.
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#2298 [20:56] <iBattaglia> yea :(
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#2300 [20:56] <iBattaglia> thanks though i thought it was a free engine,
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#2302 [20:57] <jo_> just purchased the game for my granddaughter she was able to play yesterday but now it just comes up as a blank screen cannot find anyway to fix it for her
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#2304 [20:58] <oldtopman> ??> jo_ forceupdate
#2305 [20:58] <VoxelHead> jo_: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2306 [20:58] <VoxelHead> jo_: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2307 [20:58] <jo_> thanks i will give it a try
#2308 [20:58] <doodledettle> everytime i download a mod it say done updating but is stays liek that forever please help
#2309 [20:58] <doodledettle> like*
#2310 [20:58] <oldtopman> ??> doodledettle mods
#2311 [20:58] <VoxelHead> doodledettle: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2312 [20:58] <VoxelHead> doodledettle: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2313 [20:59] <doodledettle> its optifine
#2314 [20:59] <oldtopman> Which is a mod.
#2315 [20:59] <doodledettle> but it has nothing to do with the mod it has to do with mincraft
#2316 [21:00] <doodledettle> the problem is with minecraft
#2317 [21:00] <Bugboy1028> DUDE
#2318 [21:00] <doodledettle> what
#2319 [21:00] <Bugboy1028> MOD IS PART OF MINECRAFT
#2320 [21:00] <Bugboy1028> sorry about caps
#2321 [21:00] <Bugboy1028> my cap lock is on >>
#2322 [21:00] <doodledettle> but u dont understand
#2323 [21:00] <oldtopman> doodledettle: We do not support mods here.
#2324 [21:00] <oldtopman> Or modded versions of minecraft.
#2325 [21:00] <oldtopman> We cannot assist you with your ptoblem.
#2326 [21:00] <Bugboy1028> Did you delete Meta-Inf Folder, doodledettle ?
#2327 [21:00] <doodledettle> then were would i go
#2328 [21:01] <doodledettle> yes
#2329 [21:01] <Bugboy1028> Double-check.
#2330 [21:01] <doodledettle> it is
#2331 [21:01] <Bugboy1028> just look inside the MineCraft folder.
#2332 [21:01] <doodledettle> i did
#2333 [21:01] <Bugboy1028> Do it anyways.
#2334 [21:02] <doodledettle> so listen everytime i download optifine it force updates but its just doesnt end it just says done updating and stays like that forever
#2335 [21:03] <doodledettle> is anyone there?
#2336 [21:03] <cestislife> There is
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#2338 [21:04] <cestislife> ?? scold/listen
#2339 [21:04] <VoxelHead> scold/listen: If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
#2340 [21:04] <doodledettle> i did and i tryed but it didnt work
#2341 [21:04] <Lord_Ralex> <oldtopman> doodledettle: We do not support mods here.
#2342 [21:05] <doodledettle> then do u know were i could go?
#2343 [21:05] <Fives> Minecraft Forum.
#2344 [21:05] <doodledettle> wtvr
#2345 [21:05] <doodledettle> thank you for your time
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#2347 [21:05] <Eddie> Thank you for my time.
#2348 [21:05] <wasted> he;;p?
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#2350 [21:06] <Bugboy1028> Aw, about to send him to #risucraft
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#2352 [21:06] <wasted> Does anyone know how to deal with a broken texture pack
#2353 [21:06] <Lord_Ralex> broken meaning?
#2354 [21:07] <wasted> as in minecraft gest frozen and i cant get to the start menue to change the pack
#2355 [21:09] <wasted> ?
#2356 [21:09] <wasted> ??
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#2358 [21:10] <wasted> so does anyone know
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#2364 [21:12] <da_rock_900> my question is, is the new update compatable with my operating system
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#2366 [21:14] <da_rock_900> okay how bout this is the new update compatable with a 10.5 os for mac?
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#2368 [21:15] <Fives> Most likely.
#2369 [21:15] <da_rock_900> okay ill update and try it
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#2371 [21:16] <tyteen4a03> da_rock_900, most likely it will, but there are cases where it won't work, especially if you have an older model of Macs
#2372 [21:16] <Guest27800> I followed your advice. start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. I got an error message 'Failed to launch. Fatal error occured (4): null'
#2373 [21:16] <tyteen4a03> Guest27800, turn off all antiviruses and firewalls
#2374 [21:17] <Guest27800> I am using Mac
#2375 [21:18] <tyteen4a03> Guest27800, you are not on a mac
#2376 [21:18] <da_rock_900> okay tyteen it works thanx
#2377 [21:18] <tyteen4a03> da_rock_900, no problem
#2378 [21:18] <tyteen4a03> da_rock_900, no problem
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#2380 [21:18] <cestislife> You're on Windows 7.
#2381 [21:19] <Guest27800> I am using PC for communcation only. but install minecraft in Mac
#2382 [21:19] <cestislife> ??> Guest27800 mac/reinst
#2383 [21:19] <VoxelHead> Guest27800: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2384 [21:19] <VoxelHead> Guest27800: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2387 [21:20] <Guest27800> thanks. will follow your advice
#2388 [21:20] <Guest27800> thanks. will follow your advice
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#2391 [21:26] <Guest27800> I cannot find minecraft from teh Application Support. should I just re run Minecraft again?
#2392 [21:26] <cestislife> You are on Mac OS X 10.8 I assume then?
#2393 [21:27] <cestislife> ??> Guest27800 mac/.minecraft/lion
#2394 [21:27] <VoxelHead> Guest27800: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#2395 [21:27] <Guest27800> I am usng Mac OS X version 10.7.5
#2396 [21:27] <tyteen4a03> Guest27800, same apply
#2397 [21:27] <Guest27800> ok
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#2399 [21:28] <Guest27800> sorry, where is 'Terminal'?
#2400 [21:29] <Guest27800> Should I run Minecraft in 'Application'?
#2401 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> Guest27800, application folder>Utilities>Terminal
#2402 [21:30] <Guest27800> i see thanks
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#2404 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> ??+ mac/terminal|You can reach the Terminal by going to Application > Utilities > Terminal. Alternatively, search for Terminal in the Finder.
#2405 [21:31] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, add one for cmd ;)
#2406 [21:31] <Guest27800> will seek help again. get to go out. many thanks
#2407 [21:32] <tyteen4a03> ??< win/.minecraft
#2408 [21:32] <tyteen4a03> ??+ win/cmd|You can reach the Command Prompt on Windows by pressing Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "cmd", and click OK.
#2409 [21:32] <Lord_Ralex> thx honey
#2410 [21:33] * Lord_Ralex regrets
#2410 [21:34] <Fives> This batch code: 'java -Xmx384M -Xms384M -jar minecraft.jar' isn't working correctly. Checking the Snooper Settings, debug screen and Task Manager shows it hasn't allocated the right amount of RAM.
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#2413 [21:39] <Rob|Home> need quotation marks around the path to minecraft i believe...
#2414 [21:39] <Rob|Home> need quotation marks around the path to minecraft i believe...
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#2418 [21:43] <Fives> The mincraft.jar is the launcher, the batch is in the same folder.
#2419 [21:43] <Ethan> I just downloaded the Sphax x264 texture pack and now I can't play Minecraft. I need help.
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#2421 [21:43] <Fives> Could do this too 'java -Xmx384M -Xms384M -jar Minecraft.exe', same behaviour.
#2422 [21:43] <tyteen4a03> Ethan, HD textures in 1.5+ currently causes a memory leak
#2423 [21:43] * tyteen4a03 hugs Lord_Ralex
#2423 [21:44] <Lord_Ralex> that was slow tyteen4a03
#2424 [21:44] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, I just noticed
#2425 [21:44] <Ethan> So what do I do?
#2426 [21:44] <tyteen4a03> Ethan, wait for the next version to come out that may fix the bug, or don't use a texture pack at all
#2427 [21:44] <Ethan> k thank you
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#2429 [21:45] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, also I put your name on my profile, please do the same for me :D
#2430 [21:47] <Fives> So, my batch?
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#2433 [21:53] <Fives> Anyone?
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#2436 [22:02] <Fives> I'll take that as a no...
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#2439 [22:05] <Fives> Can't youo guys give me any tips, or if not say so?
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#2441 [22:07] <Fives> Is anyone here?
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#2443 [22:08] <DiskDaemon> sure
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#2445 [22:09] <Fives> Can you give me any information?
#2446 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> Place tab A in to slot B
#2447 [22:11] <Fives> ...
#2448 [22:13] * zack6849|Offline is now known as zack6849
#2449 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> Yes, how odd. When I start up Minecraft with 256 ram, the snooper says 1024 for me too. I'll see what I may be able to sort out
#2450 [22:14] <Fives> Thank you.
#2451 [22:14] <Fives> The debug and Task Manger give different values too.
#2452 [22:15] <Fives> Debug screen.
#2453 [22:16] <Fives> Are you using a batch?
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#2455 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> Just the command line
#2456 [22:17] <Fives> In cmd? Smae thing right?
#2457 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> pretty much
#2458 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> Using MultiMC to set the amount of memory that is used, works just fine
#2459 [22:19] <Fives> Yes, I tried Magic, that works. I'd just rather use a batch. Doesn;t matter though.
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#2461 [22:21] <Padre545> On my bukkit server, when players die in the nether, they respawn in the nether instead of home.
#2462 [22:21] <Lord_Ralex> Padre545, you want to ask in #bukkit
#2463 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> Padre545: Please take bukkit issues to the #bukkit channel - thanks.
#2464 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> Padre545: Please take bukkit issues to the #bukkit channel - thanks.
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#2467 [22:24] <Fives> Some people suggest 3rd party defraggers. That isn't nessisary is it?
#2468 [22:24] <Fives> Or even beneficial.
#2469 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> Fives: The following seems to work a lot better java -Xmx384M -Xms384M -cp minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2470 [22:27] <Fives> Is there something I can add to the end of the batch to close the cmd windows automatically?
#2471 [22:27] <Fives> Oh, closing it closes Minecraft...
#2472 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> You should be able to use the start command - testing
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#2474 [22:29] <Fives> Like this?: java -Xmx384M -Xms384M -testing -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2475 [22:29] <DiskDaemon> no
#2476 [22:29] <Fives> What did you mean?
#2477 [22:29] <DiskDaemon> I meant, that I am busy testing that technique so that I can then come back and report to you how to do that shit
#2478 [22:30] <Fives> Ohhh, derp....
#2479 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> Instead of "java" in the batch file, use "start javaw"
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#2483 [22:37] <Fevix> I tend to make more storage than I'd ever realistically need, especially since I usually discard worlds once I get enchanted diamond armor on, cause after that it's not really much fun.
#2484 [22:37] <Fevix> </random comment>
#2485 [22:37] <Fives> Why
#2486 [22:37] <Fives> oops
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#2488 [22:38] <Fives> Why do you discard worlds after that?
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#2490 [22:38] <Fevix> Read after the last comma.
#2491 [22:38] <Fevix> "cause after that it's not really much fun"
#2492 [22:38] <Fevix> Once you're able to kill just about anything in a hit or two, and rarely ever take damage, it just...
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#2495 [22:42] <Fives> Derp.
#2496 [22:43] <Fives> How is it not much fun?
#2497 [22:43] <Fives> Oh, don';t worry.
#2498 [22:43] <Fives> Why not build automated stuff?
#2499 [22:43] <Fevix> Fives: Cause that can't be done very much in vanilla?
#2500 [22:44] <Fives> It can to some extent.
#2501 [22:44] <Fevix> Well yeah, to SOME extent. Nor much.
#2502 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> It's much better now with hoppers and other fancy kit
#2503 [22:44] <Fevix> Well yeah
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#2509 [22:53] <BZ> Get error 126 can't fine specified module
#2510 [22:53] <connor_> I am trying to start the trial version running Safari on Mac OSX 10.3.2 and I got the error message that it "failed to launh"
#2511 [22:53] <Fevix> connor_: Read the topic.
#2512 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> connor_ - The demo does not work on macs, this is a known issue.
#2513 [22:54] <connor_> so there is no way to make the trial work on a mac?
#2514 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Correct.
#2515 [22:54] <connor_> damn. thanks for your help. will it work if I buy the full version?
#2516 [22:55] <Fevix> connor_: OSX 10.5 and below have problems with the newest Minecraft.
#2517 [22:55] <BZ> Error 126, can't find specified module, Win 8
#2518 [22:55] <Fevix> ?? mac/10.5/mc1.5
#2519 [22:55] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5/mc1.5: Minecraft 1.5 currently does not work with Mac OSX Version 10.5 or lower. This is a known bug and will be fixed soon.
#2520 [22:55] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5/mc1.5: In the meantime, you have 3 options: 1. Upgrade to Mac OSX 10.7 or later (Mac OSX 10.6 has problems), 2. Downgrade to 1.4.7 (See ?? downgrade/1.4.7), or 3. Wait for 1.5.1 to come out
#2521 [22:55] <Lord_Ralex> Fevix, that was fixed in 1.5.1
#2522 [22:55] <Fevix> ah.
#2523 [22:56] <Lord_Ralex> Macs do have issues though with the demo
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#2525 [22:56] <john_> I recently bought minecraft with my mojan account and in order for me to use it I need to merge it with my minecraft account. The problem is I don't know my minecraft account user or password and my email is not reconized. What should I do?
#2526 [22:56] <Fevix> I'm just going off of what I have, I know little to nothing about Macs and the topic mentions they can't run it so that's all I know.
#2527 [22:56] <connor_> so if i upgrade to above 10.5 i willbe able to play?
#2528 [22:56] <Lord_Ralex> connor_, you should update anyways
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#2530 [22:56] <Fevix> connor_: MOst definitely, but as Lord_Ralex said, the issue has been fixed in the new newest MC.
#2531 [22:56] <Lord_Ralex> 10.3 is old
#2532 [22:57] <connor_> thank you all for the help
#2533 [22:57] <clarjon1> 10.5 is old.
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#2535 [22:57] <connor_> i appreciate it
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#2537 [22:57] <clarjon1> connor_: 10.5 is no longer supported by Apple, so you should update to keep receiving security updates, preventing you from having your system be compromi--tooslow.png
#2538 [22:57] <tyteen4a03> I think Lord_Ralex decided to ignore my message
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#2540 [22:58] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, what message
#2541 [22:58] <Fevix> what message, tyteen4a03?
#2542 [22:58] <BZ> getting error 126 can't find specified module
#2543 [22:58] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, so I put your name on my profile page, please do the same for me :D
#2544 [22:58] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, i did
#2545 [22:58] <Lord_Ralex> bottom
#2546 [22:58] <tyteen4a03> :o
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#2548 [22:58] <tyteen4a03> yaaaay
#2549 [22:58] <Fevix> You're a footnote, tyteen4a03 D:
#2550 [22:59] <tyteen4a03> Fevix, I don't care :P
#2551 [22:59] <Fevix> XD
#2552 [23:00] <john_> I can't merge my mojan and minecraft account together.The minecraft login says my e-mail is nost on the record. What should i do?
#2553 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> john_ - When did you purchase minecraft?
#2554 [23:00] <john_> today
#2555 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Then you don't have to worry about merging at all. You have a mojang account, period.
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#2557 [23:01] <john_> ok thank you i was worried
#2558 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Merging is for really old minecraft.net accounts, before Mojang rolled out their mojang.com account.
#2559 [23:01] <john_> oh, i see thank you very much
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#2561 [23:01] <connor_> hello all, connor again. it turns out that i am actually running OSX 10.8.3 already
#2562 [23:01] <connor_> the demo is still not working
#2563 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> The demo doesn't work under mac, on any version
#2564 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> The full, premium, paid-for version will work on your system
#2565 [23:02] <connor_> alright, thank you for your help.
#2566 [23:03] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, 3 troubleshooting spots on the launcher: Update news display HTML is java/1.7/ipv4, Minecraft dirt BG disappear is win/!, what is the other one
#2567 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> For.. can't connect to minecraft.net ?
#2568 [23:04] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, yes
#2569 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> When a person comes on with that, I start with /ctcp name time, to check their system's time/date. A wrong date will make the SSL handshake fail. I then ask them those two previous questions. Then move onto checking login.minecraft.net's resolution, see if it points to the right IP address
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#2571 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> I then move onto their security software, eset's done this.
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#2577 [23:11] <Fives> Guys, are third party defraggers better?
#2578 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Depends.
#2579 [23:11] <Fives> On?
#2580 [23:11] <Fives> On?
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#2584 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> You wouldn't defrag on an SSD. There are different types of defragmentation options. Some are better than others. Smart defraggers don't just consolidate free space. They'll take a benchmark during usage, moving files around to lessen latency and seek times.
#2585 [23:14] <Fives> I have a HDD, which do you recomend?
#2586 [23:15] <Fevix> Also, if you have an SSD, defragging offers no advantage, since an SSD can access any portion of the hard drive in the same amount of time.
#2587 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2588 [23:15] <seraphiart> Why is there just a grey screen in the demo version?
#2589 [23:16] <Fevix> IN fact, defragging can shorten the life of your SDD, since each sector can only accept a certain number of rewrites before it starts failing, and defragging causes a large number of reqrites to almost the entire disk.
#2590 [23:16] <Fevix> seraphiart: I think it's out of toner.
#2591 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> Corporate setting, personal computer, windows OS, I used to use Diskeeper quite a lot.
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#2593 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> There are a ton of third-party defragmentation utilities out there.
#2594 [23:17] <seraphiart> I don't understand. There is no anything, just a blank grey box where the game should be.
#2595 [23:17] <seraphiart> This is on IE8
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#2597 [23:17] <Fevix> seraphiart: We can't help you unless you give us more information.
#2598 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Also, this was around my NT/2k/xp days, the windows built-in defragmentation utility has improved over the years.
#2599 [23:18] <DiskDaemon> I've found that PerfectDisk does a really good job, and defrags quietly in the background too to help maintain ongoing good health
#2600 [23:19] <seraphiart> Ok, so I was trying to open the in-browser version of minecraft in IE8, but instead of the game, all that I see is a grey box. This isn't an in- game thing, it is a loading thing, I think. I haven't even seen the main menu as the game never loaded.
#2601 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> seraphiart: Which java do you have in your web browser?
#2602 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> ?? java/version
#2603 [23:20] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2604 [23:20] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2605 [23:21] <seraphiart> It doesn't look like I have java at all.
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#2607 [23:22] <DiskDaemon> there we go then
#2608 [23:22] <seraphiart> It says "unable to verify"
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#2610 [23:22] <seraphiart> So I need to install it?
#2611 [23:22] <DiskDaemon> yes
#2612 [23:22] <seraphiart> Thanks.
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#2615 [23:24] <sketchman1981> What is the best version of Java for Minecraft?
#2616 [23:24] <DiskDaemon> The most recent one
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#2619 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> Java 7 64-bit, if you have a 64-bit operating system
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#2621 [23:26] <DiskDaemon> Download and install it from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#2622 [23:26] <Fives> Does Game Booster just disable services temoporarily?
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#2624 [23:29] <sketchman1981> i ask because I've been having java errors, and getting disconnected from the server I play on every 5 minutes or less
#2625 [23:30] <sketchman1981> internal exception: java.net.socketexception: software caused connection abort: recv failed
#2626 [23:30] <sketchman1981> that's the message I get most often.
#2627 [23:31] <tyteen4a03> sketchman1981, welcome back
#2628 [23:31] <sketchman1981> I've tried every suggestion I've found so far, had my ISP checked, removed both Minecraft and Java( I usually have both 32bit, and 64 bit) and reinstalled fresh copies.
#2629 [23:31] <sketchman1981> Hey tyteen, lol.
#2630 [23:31] <sketchman1981> Obviously I don't give up easy.
#2631 [23:32] <tyteen4a03> heh
#2632 [23:32] <sketchman1981> ISP shows great signal, according to tab in the server I have the best connection out of all there.
#2633 [23:32] <Lord_Ralex> the tab thing is not accurate
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#2635 [23:33] <sketchman1981> brb, gonna put my son to bed.
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#2642 [23:39] <sketchman1981> ok back.
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#2644 [23:39] <sketchman1981> So question, and I'm not sure if this is related to Minecraft help, or if it'd be a bukkit question.
#2645 [23:39] <tyteen4a03> sketchman1981, just ask, if it's not we'll tell you
#2646 [23:39] <sketchman1981> Could my player profile on the server be corrupt somehow, and causing the errors
#2647 [23:40] <tyteen4a03> sketchman1981, I doubt it
#2648 [23:40] <tyteen4a03> recv failed is more of a connection error
#2649 [23:40] <sketchman1981> is that what that is?
#2650 [23:40] <sketchman1981> something to do with the ping?
#2651 [23:41] <sketchman1981> cause I know whenever it happens in short frequency I check the servers signal in the server list and it is usually 1 bar.
#2652 [23:42] <sketchman1981> It is possible that it is on my end, but I've tried everything I can find so far.
#2653 [23:42] <sketchman1981> I'm going to test another server to see if it happens there too.
#2654 [23:42] <sketchman1981> if it does then I have another modem/router I'll try out.
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#2656 [23:44] <sketchman1981> just sick of this, I've never had a problem before, but I am using a new ISP(new to me since I've been playing Minecraft) though it's a major ISP. And the server has changed hosts again. I will try and bring my laptop to another location sometime soon and test that.
#2657 [23:45] <sketchman1981> tthat and I need to test it on a wired connection. If my network card is failing could that cause this?
#2658 [23:45] <sketchman1981> my laptop is around 2 years old, and gets used quite often
#2659 [23:46] <sketchman1981> Anyone want to buy a used Asus G74sx so I can put it towards a new one?
#2660 [23:47] <tyteen4a03> sketchman1981, if you ship, sure
#2661 [23:48] <sketchman1981> lol. Think you're over seas right?
#2662 [23:48] <tyteen4a03> sketchman1981, if it's still in mint condition, I can use a laptop
#2663 [23:48] <tyteen4a03> sketchman1981, correct
#2664 [23:49] <sketchman1981> it's still in pretty great condition. I'm considering a fresh start on it. wipe the hdd and load new copy of windows
#2665 [23:49] <tyteen4a03> sketchman1981, does it hold 2 hdds?
#2666 [23:49] <sketchman1981> 3
#2667 [23:49] <tyteen4a03> ooooh
#2668 [23:49] <sketchman1981> tlol
#2669 [23:49] <sketchman1981> up to 16 gb ram, it has 8
#2670 [23:49] <tyteen4a03> your offer? I can use a new computer
#2671 [23:50] <sketchman1981> lol, i'd sell it for $800.00 gotta cover shipping ;). Local i'd sell it for $600
#2672 [23:50] <tyteen4a03> why additional $200 for shipping?
#2673 [23:50] <sketchman1981> shipping over seas
#2674 [23:50] <tyteen4a03> sketchman1981, it is that expensive?
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#2676 [23:51] <sketchman1981> I paid $1250 for the laptop. as far as shipping, i have no idea. I'd ahve to look.
#2677 [23:51] <Oblivi0n> Where can I get minecraft's source code?
#2678 [23:51] <sketchman1981> but local I meant I wouldn't have to ship it.
#2679 [23:51] <Lord_Ralex> Oblivi0n, you can't
#2680 [23:51] <Oblivi0n> Then how can I mod it-?
#2681 [23:51] <tyteen4a03> sketchman1981, I doubt shipping really costs $200
#2682 [23:51] <tyteen4a03> sketchman1981, but I can pay for shipping, sure, as long as it doesn't cost over $60 or something
#2683 [23:52] <sketchman1981> no idea, I was just throwing it out there. I can't sell it till I can buy a new one anyways. Though the new model has the GTX 660m, with I think an option 675m
#2684 [23:52] <sketchman1981> this one has the gtx 560m
#2685 [23:52] <tyteen4a03> I'm personally saving up for a HTX One M7 but I can shift the money for a laptop
#2686 [23:52] <tyteen4a03> *HTC
#2687 [23:52] <tyteen4a03> and hell, the one M7 costs more than your offer, minus shipping
#2688 [23:52] <Oblivi0n> Lord_Ralex -?
#2689 [23:53] <sketchman1981> haha, me too. :D HTC ONE is my next phone
#2690 [23:53] <Lord_Ralex> Oblivi0n, we don't assist with mods, but look up mcp
#2691 [23:53] <Oblivi0n> mcp isn't working for me.
#2692 [23:53] <Lord_Ralex> and there are channels on esper that do mods
#2693 [23:53] <Oblivi0n> Such as?
#2694 [23:53] * Lord_Ralex shrugs
#2694 [23:53] * Lord_Ralex would google
#2694 [23:53] <tyteen4a03> #risucraft, #minecraftforge
#2695 [23:54] * Oblivi0n goes and joins #mcp if it exists
#2695 [23:54] <sketchman1981> if you know how to mod, you should likely know how to pull the code, but I don't really know.
#2696 [23:54] <tyteen4a03> ^
#2697 [23:54] <Lord_Ralex> since you seem to do coding with the bukkit api Oblivi0n, i'd suggest looking up forge for a more enjoyable experience
#2698 [23:55] <sketchman1981> Anyways....I think I'll stop them from deleting my profile on the server if you don't think it'd make a difference.
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#2700 [23:55] <tyteen4a03> you can try renaming
#2701 [23:55] <tyteen4a03> best from both worlds
#2702 [23:55] <sketchman1981> renaming?
#2703 [23:55] <Lord_Ralex> rename the .dat file to another name
#2704 [23:55] <tyteen4a03> sketchman1981, basically take out your player profile temporaily
#2705 [23:55] <Lord_Ralex> like add a _
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#2707 [23:55] <sketchman1981> what would that do?
#2708 [23:55] <Lord_Ralex> exact same as deleting it
#2709 [23:56] <Lord_Ralex> except you have it not deleted
#2710 [23:56] <Lord_Ralex> and backup
#2711 [23:56] <Lord_Ralex> backed*
#2712 [23:56] <sketchman1981> hmm. would I lose all my status?
#2713 [23:56] <Lord_Ralex> if the file is not your name, yes
#2714 [23:56] <Lord_Ralex> but they can rename it back to what it was and you get that back
#2715 [23:56] <Lord_Ralex> although wait
#2716 [23:56] <Lord_Ralex> status?
#2717 [23:56] <sketchman1981> weird.
#2718 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> You would lose your inventory and player position upon reconnecting to the world.
#2719 [23:56] <sketchman1981> yeah, like my mcmmo and such.
#2720 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> It would be as if you connected to the server for the first time again
#2721 [23:57] <sketchman1981> ahhh.
#2722 [23:57] <Lord_Ralex> sketchman1981, those, no
#2723 [23:57] <Lord_Ralex> the dat does not contain that
#2724 [23:57] <sketchman1981> But they could roll it back?
#2725 [23:57] <Lord_Ralex> anything that the vanilla minecraft does is stored in it
#2726 [23:57] <Lord_Ralex> anyhting that mods and plugins add don't
#2727 [23:57] <Lord_Ralex> /home, mcmmo stuff, is not stored in that
#2728 [23:57] <tyteen4a03> McMMO...
#2729 [23:57] <sketchman1981> Wonder if that's what he meant by my world data?
#2730 [23:57] <tyteen4a03> why did I not see this coming
#2731 [23:58] <Lord_Ralex> sketchman1981, the .dat is your world data really
#2732 [23:58] <Oblivi0n> Lord_Ralex: Forge doesn't seem to work on my mac...
#2733 [23:58] <Lord_Ralex> youe "plugin" data is not
#2734 [23:58] <Lord_Ralex> Oblivi0n, again, not the chan for that
#2735 [23:58] <Lord_Ralex> there are other chans that you are pointed to for that
#2736 [23:58] <sketchman1981> understand.
#2737 [23:59] <sketchman1981> So, I was thinking I heard that bukkit and Minecraft were supposed to work together after a certain point. is that still going to happen?
#2738 [23:59] <sketchman1981> Might eliminate some of these errors.
#2739 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's already hired some of the core bukkit team.
#2740 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> That was a little while ago