#MinecraftHelp > 2013-04-03
#1 [00:03] <Gar> my internal hasnt changed at all but according to whatsmyip its different, i think
#2 [00:04] <Syfaro> That would only affect external people connecting. If you can't connect within your network, it's a different problem.
#3 [00:05] <Gar> i can connect on my network just not externally such as from my laptop while at a friends house. they cant connect either
#4 [00:06] <Syfaro> Oh, I thought you couldn't connect on other computers in your house for some reason.
#5 [00:07] <Syfaro> Are you sure that your ports are forwarded correctly?
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#7 [00:08] <Gar> they might not be. is possible that the external address could have changed recently?
#8 [00:08] <Gar> it*
#9 [00:09] <Syfaro> Sometimes they change. Have you tried a website like http://canyouseeme.org to check if your ports are open?
#10 [00:13] <Gar> i unfortunately cant tell if it is or isnt because my connection times out
#11 [00:14] <Syfaro> To that site?
#12 [00:14] <Gar> never mind my port is 80 and is closed
#13 [00:15] <Syfaro> You should use port 25565 as that is the port for Minecraft
#14 [00:16] <Gar> in my server properties i still have that as the server port
#15 [00:16] <Syfaro> I mean, on the canyouseeme.org page you should use port 25565
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#17 [00:17] <Gar> it says the connection was refused when 25565 was entered in the blank
#18 [00:18] <Syfaro> Well then, the issue probably lies in the port forwarding configuration.
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#24 [01:02] <Gar> ok it seems that port forwarding was the issue. i needed a new static ip and the ip that my friends would use also changed. the server is now accessible to them and myself from other networks. thanks a bunch
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#40 [02:29] <denzel_ivan> when i going to multiplayer it always said internal exception
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#45 [02:59] <Vincent> I need to reset all of my minecraft stats. I need to start with a perfectly clean Minecraft.
#46 [03:00] <Wug> Vincent: do you care about your worlds
#47 [03:00] <Vincent> No
#48 [03:00] <Wug> delete your whole minecraft folder then
#49 [03:01] <Wug> the folder is %appdata%\.minecraft
#50 [03:01] <Wug> just clear it out
#51 [03:01] <Wug> leave lastlogin if you want it to save your username and password
#52 [03:02] <Vincent> So do i delete it from my computer or do I have to do something on Minecraft.net?
#53 [03:03] <Wug> just delete the contents of that folder
#54 [03:03] <Vincent> got it
#55 [03:04] <Vincent> After that, do I go to minecraft.net and download minecraft again?
#56 [03:05] <Wug> mustve figured it out
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#64 [03:50] <sugoi> is there a common reason for out of mem (32bit os, 4gb physical ram, running no mods, default texture, default render (short))
#65 [03:50] <sugoi> running default launcher, not cmd line or other
#66 [03:53] <SinZ> default launcher only assigns 1GB of ram, which isnt always enough
#67 [03:55] <sugoi> SinZ: ok
#68 [03:55] <Wug> well
#69 [03:55] <Wug> SinZ: its opposite what you think
#70 [03:55] <sugoi> i adviced the person to use a cmd line to give a 2g max, so i guess that could have resolved it for them
#71 [03:55] <Wug> sugoi: assign less ram
#72 [03:56] <Wug> I typically recommend 512 unless that is also not stable
#73 [03:56] <sugoi> Wug: i'm a developer myself, but not a java developer, can you explain why that would help?
#74 [03:56] <Wug> it's because of reserved space and address size and java and magic and bullshit
#75 [03:56] <sugoi> haha
#76 [03:56] <Wug> the explanation is long and tedious and rather minecraft specific
#77 [03:56] <sugoi> fair enough
#78 [03:57] <Wug> but address space fragmentation plays a role
#79 [03:57] <sugoi> i suppose specially handled memory chunks (hardcoded even) could have "pockets" of reliability
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#81 [04:29] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, also 32bit
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#85 [04:52] <Colonel_Pootis> hey my minecraft crashes at the "downloading terrain" screen, I think its an optifine problem, but I want to run the unbelievable shaders mod
#86 [04:53] <Lutzee> Please try without the mods and see if it helps.
#87 [04:53] <Lutzee> ?? mods
#88 [04:53] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#89 [04:53] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#90 [04:54] <Colonel_Pootis> It works fine without the mods
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#93 [05:00] <Thadd> Hey guys. Noob here. I'm using my email address to connect to minecraft. Changed my password over even though I'm positive that I had it right in the first place, but it's still not connecting for me. I'm on a mac, using vserion 1.5.1 Keeps on saying "login failed". My VPN is turned off and I am connecting from Asia in case that's of any relevance... is there anyone by chance who could give me some advice on what I should try next? Thanks :D
#94 [05:00] <Gone_Ralex> Thadd, did you purchase Minecraft?
#95 [05:01] <Thadd> No, the website that i downloaded this from said that it was a trial version.
#96 [05:01] <Gone_Ralex> Thadd, if it is not from http://minecraft.net it is not the game
#97 [05:01] <Thadd> Figured I'd give it a spin before coughing up cash.
#98 [05:01] <Thadd> OK, I'll check that out. Thanks :P
#99 [05:01] <Gone_Ralex> Thadd, although there is a demo
#100 [05:01] <Gone_Ralex> but it does not work on Macs because of Apple
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#102 [05:03] <Thadd> On safari i can see "missing plugin" which won't load and ... yes. it wont load on chrome either...
#103 [05:03] <Thadd> So you guys are saying that only the demo has a problem with macs?
#104 [05:03] <Gone_Ralex> Thadd, Apple disabled the web java applet, so it will not work
#105 [05:03] <Gone_Ralex> The browser versions of the game (which includes the demo) does not work on macs
#106 [05:03] <Thadd> OK, since you're not working for Apple, I won't bother asking why... but that's trange.
#107 [05:04] <Gone_Ralex> Security iirc
#108 [05:04] <Thadd> OK. Thanks anyway. I'm tempted to make the purchase. Just wanted to see what kind of connection I get on it from here in northeast China.
#109 [05:04] <Thadd> Afraid of lag
#110 [05:04] <Gone_Ralex> If you go play on servers that is where it would matter really
#111 [05:05] <Gone_Ralex> And even then depends on the server you go to and where it is hosted
#112 [05:05] <Thadd> Yeah, well I honestly can't read Chinese very well. I may as well say I can't tead it at all... so I'm not up for playing on a server where I can't understand what people are talking about.
#113 [05:05] <Thadd> Would I get a ton of lag connecting to a server in North America/Europe?
#114 [05:05] <Gone_Ralex> Depends on the server really
#115 [05:05] <Gone_Ralex> The larger servers or ones that have a good host usually have pretty good connections around the world
#116 [05:06] <Thadd> OK. Well thanks a bunch, Gone. I'll have to try the demo out on a friend's computer.
#117 [05:06] <Gone_Ralex> http://minecraft.net/demo is the online demo that you can try with
#118 [05:07] <Gone_Ralex> But yeah, you will need to use something not a mac to play it
#119 [05:07] <Thadd> Yup. Dude next door owns a PC. I'll try it out tonight :)
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#131 [06:05] <nlsm0> Hello can anyone help with an issue I seem to be having?
#132 [06:05] <Lutzee> ?? ask
#133 [06:05] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#134 [06:05] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#135 [06:09] <nlsm0> Ok I have been trying to run minecraft but have the same issue everytime with game lag. I am running win 7 x64, Gforce 210 1GB, 4GB ram, x64 java, intel P - D 2.8 x64. Game lags bad regardless of what setting I run in the menu... I am just out of ideas.
#136 [06:11] <cestislife> Are you sure that the nVidia card is managing Minecraft's graphics?
#137 [06:12] <Lutzee> ^ Pentium D is really that fast either and wouldn't run the game that well either
#138 [06:13] <Gone_Ralex> think you forgot a not Lutzee
#139 [06:13] <nlsm0> checking the gfx manager now, and the cpu is way above the recommended is it not?
#140 [06:13] <Lutzee> Gone_Ralex: I did >.>
#141 [06:13] <Lutzee> nlsm0: Er, not really..
#142 [06:13] <cestislife> nlsm0: right click on desktop, select nVidia control panel, click on Manage 3D settings.
#143 [06:14] <cestislife> Make sure the nVidia card is the preferred graphics processor.
#144 [06:14] <Lutzee> You are on the border of recommended, you only just reach it
#145 [06:15] <nlsm0> there does not seem to be an option to change the preferred graphics card
#146 [06:16] <cestislife> Then you are already using the nVidia card for graphics management.
#147 [06:17] <nlsm0> It says total available memory for graphics 2815, surly thats enough no?
#148 [06:18] <cestislife> Hmm
#149 [06:18] <cestislife> There might be some tips on this guide that can help you - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-
#150 [06:19] <Lutzee> It shouldn't be that high for a GT210 1GB, infact it should be 1GB there shouldn't be any graphics memory sharing
#151 [06:19] <nlsm0> It has 1GB dedicated
#152 [06:20] <nlsm0> I haven't changed any setting this is a fresh install of win 7
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#157 [06:39] <Kiron28> I keep on getting a message of bad video drivers after updating them, I have an Asus G73J running on Windows 8
#158 [06:40] <Gone_Ralex> ??? Kiron28 win/dxdiag/bat
#159 [06:40] <Gone_Ralex> ??> Kiron28 win/dxdiag/bat
#160 [06:40] <VoxelHead> Kiron28: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#161 [06:40] <VoxelHead> Kiron28: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#162 [06:41] <Kiron28> where do I get that file from? sorry I am not very computer savvy
#163 [06:42] <cestislife> http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#164 [06:46] <Kiron28> http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=pmQCAKu7
#165 [06:47] <Kiron28> I guess this is what you need? it was a very long text
#166 [06:47] <Gone_Ralex> yes it was, one sec
#167 [06:47] <Kiron28> thanks so much
#168 [06:47] <Gone_Ralex> Kiron28, please download and run this: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#169 [06:48] <Gone_Ralex> It will download the video driver for your computer which you need to run the game
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#171 [06:52] <Kiron28> Thanks I download and installed it, it has an error report on the hdmi sound bit, would this affect the graphics.
#172 [06:52] <Gone_Ralex> it should be fine
#173 [06:53] <Kiron28> I am about to check now, I shall let you know...
#174 [06:54] <Kiron28> it seems to be working now, thanks so much for your help guys!
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#178 [07:00] <Kev1n> Hello! Ive got a prob with the verification email
#179 [07:01] <Kev1n> it never arrives in my email acc. ive tryed severalt times. spam folder is empty too
#180 [07:02] <Kev1n> and i think theres no typo in the adress
#181 [07:03] <Kev1n> so what can i do? should i register a new minecraft acc?
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#183 [07:06] <tyteen4a03> Kev1n, what is your email provider?
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#187 [07:12] <kiron28> hello again, now it loads but the graphic card crashes and crashes the computer, I cannot play
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#189 [07:17] <kiron28_> Hi the graphics card stops working and I cannot play
#190 [07:17] <kiron28_> the card is a Radeon 5800
#191 [07:18] <kiron28_> is there a problem playing the game in windows 8?
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#194 [07:20] <kiron28_> hi is there anybody there who can help me
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#196 [07:25] <kiron28_> my computer graphics do not work and crash, i have just followed the instructions to update the drivers
#197 [07:26] <kiron28_> is there any other thing I need to do so the graphics card works? is a radeon 5800
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#202 [07:50] <beboo112> i'll bay minecraft
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#207 [07:53] <beboo112> hi
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#210 [07:55] <beboo112> hi
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#213 [08:01] <beboo112> I purchased the Maine Kraft did not send a message activating
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#215 [08:01] <beboo112> I purchased the Maine Kraft did not send a message activating Why?
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#221 [08:11] <beboo112> hi
#222 [08:11] <beboo112> I purchased the Minecraft did not send a message activating Why?
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#228 [08:19] <diamondqueen890> Hello. Whenever i try to chat with other people on servers, it says "Cannot send chat message". It didn' say that when i got minecraft for the first time. Please help!
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#230 [08:19] <Andrio> diamondqueen890, you probably have chat turned off.
#231 [08:19] <diamondqueen890> oh! how do i fix that?
#232 [08:20] <Andrio> You can turn it on in the options menu, under 'Multiplayer settings'.
#233 [08:20] <diamondqueen890> okay. i will do that now
#234 [08:20] <beboo112> I purchased the Minecraft did not send a message activating Why? I bought it two days ago
#235 [08:21] <diamondqueen890> Thank you very much!!!!!!
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#237 [08:26] <beboo112> I purchased the Minecraft did not send a message activating Why? I bought it two days ago
#238 [08:33] <beboo112> I purchased the Minecraft did not send a message activating Why? I bought it two days ago
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#241 [08:37] <beboo112> I purchased the Minecraft did not send a message activating Why? I bought it two days ago
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#243 [08:39] <beboo112> I purchased the Minecraft did not send a message activating Why? I bought it two days ago
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#246 [08:42] <beboo112> I purchased the Minecraft did not send a message activating Why? I bought it two days ago
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#248 [08:42] <Andrio> don't spam, please.
#249 [08:45] <beboo112> I purchased the Minecraft did not send a message activating Why? I bought it two days ago
#250 [08:45] <beboo112> pleez help me
#251 [08:46] <beboo112> I purchased the Minecraft did not send a message activating Why? I bought it two days ago
#252 [08:46] <Gone_Ralex> ??> beboo112 scold/spam
#253 [08:46] <VoxelHead> beboo112: (scold/spam) We can hear you just fine, and your text does not disappear automagically. Please do not spam the same thing over and over again.
#254 [08:46] <beboo112> I want minecraft
#255 [08:47] <beboo112> scold
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#257 [09:02] <beboo112> who is free
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#262 [09:06] <egrucela> minecraft wont load when i try to open it
#263 [09:07] <egrucela> can someone help me
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#266 [09:08] <beboo112> I purchased the Minecraft did not send a message activating Why? I bought it two days ago
#267 [09:10] <camoninjakid> minecraft keeps giving making this error when i click on the shortcut could not creat java virtual machine a fatal error has occured
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#277 [09:12] <camoninjakid> minecraft keeps giving me this error when i open the shortcut could not creat java vitual machine a fatal error has occured
#278 [09:13] <camoninjakid> create i maen
#279 [09:13] <camoninjakid> mean
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#281 [09:14] <camoninjakid> i did the dxdiag program
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#289 [09:27] <LordOfWolves> hey how do i use commandblocks on my sever i got to blocks but i dont know how to make it keep score
#290 [09:27] <LordOfWolves> its turned on
#291 [09:29] <LordOfWolves> hey how do i use commandblocks on my sever i got to blocks but i dont know how to make it keep score and its turned on in my property pannel
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#294 [09:31] <LordOfWolves> so will someone help me
#295 [09:32] <rymate1234> ?? patience
#296 [09:32] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#297 [09:32] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
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#299 [09:32] <rymate1234> I would help, however I don't know how to use scores either
#300 [09:33] <Andrio> I sort of know..
#301 [09:33] <LordOfWolves> its says to type testfor and all that but it dont work
#302 [09:33] <Andrio> I don't know what 11testfor does..
#303 [09:33] <Andrio> I know how to get a scoreboard set up though.
#304 [09:33] <LordOfWolves> ok
#305 [09:34] <LordOfWolves> this is one example it gave me in wiki testfor @p[score_deaths=5,score_deaths_min=1
#306 [09:34] <LordOfWolves> and i dont know how it works
#307 [09:35] * Andrio checks the wiki.
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#308 [09:40] <Andrio> Well, for that you'd need to have a scoreboard objective set up called 'deaths'.
#309 [09:40] <Andrio> Then it'd search for players who've clocked between 1 and 5 deaths.
#310 [09:40] <Andrio> @p means the nearest player.
#311 [09:41] <LordOfWolves> but i filled in for "death" with my objective TeamDeathMatch
#312 [09:42] <Andrio> death4s
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#314 [09:43] <LordOfWolves> then when that did not work i put in playerkillcount
#315 [09:44] <Andrio> 11/scoreboard objectives add deaths deathCount 10[display name...]
#316 [09:44] <Andrio> ?
#317 [09:45] <Andrio> Did you use that?
#318 [09:45] <LordOfWolves> i just want the kill count not the deaths
#319 [09:45] <Andrio> oh.
#320 [09:46] <ofna01> Can you replace Deaths with Kills?
#321 [09:46] <LordOfWolves> this is what i typed in testfor @p[score_TeamDeathMatch=5,score_TeamDeathMatch_min=1
#322 [09:46] <Andrio> You can.
#323 [09:47] <Andrio> 11deaths is just the name.
#324 [09:47] <Andrio> LordOfWolves, where'd you type that?
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#326 [09:47] <LordOfWolves> but it did not work
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#328 [09:48] <iFreshHD> Hello
#329 [09:48] <Andrio> ok, I still don't really get what you need help with.
#330 [09:48] <Andrio> iFreshHD, hello.
#331 [09:48] <iFreshHD> Why cant i connect to my newly domained site even though every one else can?
#332 [09:49] <LordOfWolves> reshugottf e site
#333 [09:49] <LordOfWolves> hi fresh
#334 [09:49] <LordOfWolves> geuss who
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#336 [09:50] <LordOfWolves> well andrio i typed it in commandblock
#337 [09:50] <iFreshHD> Why cant i connect to my newly domained site even though every one else can?
#338 [09:50] <iFreshHD> Why cant i connect to my newly domained site even though every one else can?]
#339 [09:50] <Andrio> what site?
#340 [09:50] <iFreshHD> its
#341 [09:50] <iFreshHD> heroworldpvp.com
#342 [09:51] <Necrodoom> not really belongs here
#343 [09:51] <iFreshHD> someone told me to come here
#344 [09:51] <Andrio> LordOfWolves, I think you need to have a redstone comparator pointing away from the command block for 11/testfor to work.
#345 [09:52] <LordOfWolves> i told youto come here
#346 [09:52] <SinZ> testfor doesnt do anything iirc, it just tests for what you typed in, and will give off a redstone signal out of a comparator for your result
#347 [09:53] <Andrio> ^
#348 [09:53] <LordOfWolves> but how deso itt keep count
#349 [09:53] <Andrio> the scoreboard does that.
#350 [09:54] <LordOfWolves> k
#351 [09:54] <Andrio> You can set a 'criteria' on the scoreboard objective.
#352 [09:54] <Andrio> playerKillCount counts a point when you kill another player.
#353 [09:55] <SinZ> like deathCount and playerKillCo-
#354 [09:55] <Andrio> yeah, that.
#355 [09:55] <SinZ> remember, camelCase is required
#356 [09:55] <Andrio> You can use tab-complete, though.
#357 [09:56] <Andrio> Tab-completion works really well in Minecraft. ^_^
#358 [09:56] <LordOfWolves> oh yea i nver had killed any person on my server
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#360 [09:57] <LordOfWolves> well ty for the help andrio
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#392 [11:53] <codelyokop> hello
#393 [11:53] <codelyokop> i have a problem where i can log in but the the game screen stays blank on linux pls an somone help me?
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#398 [12:00] <Gone_Ralex> codelyokop, do you know how to use the terminal
#399 [12:01] <codelyokop> yes but i would need to ask my dad first
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#401 [12:01] <Gone_Ralex> you will need to use the terminal to help determine why it is staying black
#402 [12:01] <codelyokop> ah my dad is at work at the moment
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#404 [12:05] <codelyokop> Gone_Ralex it is probably from when my dad re-instaled linux then put java on and then teyed to re-instal windows
#405 [12:06] <Gone_Ralex> codelyokop, i just think you don't have the video drivers installed, but without an error cannot be certain
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#407 [12:07] <codelyokop> it worked before the computer played up and once after we re-instaled java
#408 [12:11] <codelyokop> i have screenshots from when it worked
#409 [12:12] <Gone_Ralex> codelyokop, for now, really we just have to figure out why it stays on that screen, to do that we need to use the terminal
#410 [12:14] <codelyokop> i will have to wait to see what my dad says so for now bye (my mincraft name is the same here)
#411 [12:17] <codelyokop> bye all
#412 [12:17] <codelyokop> bye all
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#414 [12:17] <codelyokop> bye all
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#422 [12:30] <extremewar> any admins on?
#423 [12:30] <Lutzee> ?? ask
#424 [12:30] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#425 [12:30] <extremewar> or support members?
#426 [12:30] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#427 [12:31] <extremewar> i have a minecraft account but cant remember the pasword and i cant recive emails ..
#428 [12:31] <extremewar> even though i added @mojang.com as a trusted email
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#430 [12:32] <extremewar> soo any help
#431 [12:33] <Lutzee> Have you read this: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001-cannot-get-mojang-system-emails ?
#432 [12:33] <extremewar> yea but i dont think i can remember the transaction id
#433 [12:33] <extremewar> siince it was a long time ago
#434 [12:35] <ofna01> Extreme, you may need to wait for the email to go through
#435 [12:35] <extremewar> so it takes a while for the email to reach my email?
#436 [12:37] <Lutzee> Who is you email provider?
#437 [12:37] <extremewar> hotmail
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#443 [12:42] <Crafted_Devil> Is there a way to change the current email hooked up to my Minecraft Account? I can't figure out a way.
#444 [12:43] <Gone_Ralex> Crafted_Devil, do you currently use your email to log in?
#445 [12:43] <Crafted_Devil> No, my username.
#446 [12:43] <Gone_Ralex> Crafted_Devil, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#447 [12:44] <Gone_Ralex> also lol, that article got a typo
#448 [12:44] * Gone_Ralex makes note to pass that on
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#449 [12:44] <Crafted_Devil> Ok, thank you.
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#454 [13:27] <Fierce> Hello I have a queston for you
#455 [13:28] <Fierce> Anyone know why XWoM won't connect players and comes to an 'Not Responding' ? It is happening with 5 other people I know of. And how should I fix it.
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#458 [13:28] <Fierce> Everytime I try to connect it comes to a blank black screen and wont load.
#459 [13:28] <killer24nl> Extreme
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#461 [13:29] <Fierce> then comes to the 'not responding' page
#462 [13:29] <killer24nl> Fierce: coud you show me a picture? Go to the page, hit print screen, go to imgur.com and hit alt+v
#463 [13:30] <Fierce> Print screen?
#464 [13:30] <killer24nl> Fierce: click upload and copy the url
#465 [13:30] <worldmc> Fierce, whats xwom ?
#466 [13:30] <killer24nl> worldmc
#467 [13:30] <Fierce> It is a backup of WoM
#468 [13:31] <killer24nl> worldmc: i fixed my problem :P gues what the problem was
#469 [13:31] <worldmc> what was it?
#470 [13:31] <Fierce> Since WoM went down
#471 [13:31] <Fierce> Killer
#472 [13:31] <killer24nl> Fierce: yes?
#473 [13:31] <Fierce> I am at the screen with the not responding, now how I screenshot that?
#474 [13:31] <worldmc> fierce note that we support minecraft. not sure if you are talking about mc aswell but keep it in mind
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#476 [13:32] <killer24nl> Fierce: hit the sprint screen on you keyboard, or prtscr
#477 [13:32] <killer24nl> Fierce: it copys everything on your screen
#478 [13:32] <Fierce> Okay I hit it?
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#480 [13:33] <killer24nl> Fierce: go to www.imgur.com
#481 [13:34] <killer24nl> Fierce: hit alt+v
#482 [13:34] <killer24nl> Fierce: and then upload en send the ink
#483 [13:34] <killer24nl> Fierce: *link
#484 [13:34] <killer24nl> Worldmc: are you there?
#485 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> Fierce, we do not support classic
#486 [13:34] <worldmc> yes
#487 [13:35] <SilentGamerMC> I need help minecraft won't launch!
#488 [13:35] <killer24nl> worldmc: gues what the problem was
#489 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> SilentGamerMC, what happens when you try?\
#490 [13:35] <worldmc> i call a bad java socket?
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#494 [13:35] <Fierce> killer24nl
#495 [13:35] <Fierce> Nothing happens when I Alt+V
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#497 [13:36] <killer24nl> worldmc: nope, i had to use a VPN
#498 [13:36] <SilentGamerMC> I get a black screen everytime!
#499 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> killer24nl, Fierce, worldmc: As I mentioned before, we don't support classic or custom clients here
#500 [13:36] <killer24nl> Fierce: did you hit print screen?
#501 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> SilentGamerMC, has Minecraft worked before?
#502 [13:36] <killer24nl> tyteen4s03: ok
#503 [13:36] <SilentGamerMC> Yes
#504 [13:36] <Fierce> SilentGamerMC
#505 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> ??> SilentGamerMC forceupdate
#506 [13:36] <VoxelHead> SilentGamerMC: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#507 [13:36] <VoxelHead> SilentGamerMC: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#508 [13:36] <Fierce> Same problem I am having
#509 [13:36] <SilentGamerMC> Ok I'll try that.
#510 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> Fierce, you may want to take this matter to XWoM's official website, or #wom
#511 [13:37] <worldmc> i know
#512 [13:37] <Fierce> oh ok
#513 [13:37] <Fierce> One sec tyteen
#514 [13:37] <SilentGamerMC> It works! Thank you!
#515 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> SilentGamerMC, no problem
#516 [13:37] <worldmc> i didnt know that xwom is a costum client
#517 [13:37] <worldmc> i didnt know that xwom is a costum client
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#519 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> worldmc, WoM stands for World of Minecraft, they released a popular classic client
#520 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> XWoM is probably some variant of WoM client
#521 [13:37] <Fierce> What
#522 [13:37] <worldmc> ah
#523 [13:37] <Fierce> How did his work?
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#525 [13:38] <clarjon1> worldmc: If you didn't get the client from minecraft.net/download/ it is a custom client.
#526 [13:38] <Fierce> Oh his is real mc
#527 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> Fierce, Minecraft Release is a separate branch from classic, and is the only supported release
#528 [13:38] <worldmc> fierce he had a different client then you. also that message from voxelhead states the name of the person that it was for.
#529 [13:39] <worldmc> and i also knew that clarjon1
#530 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> worldmc, irc/multitasking
#531 [13:39] <worldmc> my keyboard was derping with the symbols
#532 [13:39] <clarjon1> Oh, you didn't know that xwom specifically was a custom client. Gotcha.
#533 [13:39] <worldmc> yep
#534 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> clarjon1, don't think many people know much about the classic scene anymore
#535 [13:39] <Fierce> killer
#536 [13:39] <killer24nl> Fierce: yes?
#537 [13:40] <Fierce> I have the picture printed
#538 [13:40] <killer24nl> Does anyone know a better VPN thing?
#539 [13:40] <killer24nl> Fierce: Go to www.imgur.com
#540 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> killer24nl, firstly why are you required to use a VPN
#541 [13:40] <Fierce> There
#542 [13:41] <clarjon1> killer24nl: We highly recommend against using a VPN if you're setting up a home server. It is recommended you use portforwarding on your router :)
#543 [13:41] <Fierce> http://imgur.com/JDMqo3V killer24nl
#544 [13:41] <killer24nl> Tyteen4a03: i dont know, because i cant reach any server so i tried that and it worked
#545 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> killer24nl, server = IRC/Minecraft/HTTP?
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#547 [13:41] <killer24nl> clarjon1: how do i do that :)
#548 [13:42] <clarjon1> killer24nl: what's the model of your router?
#549 [13:42] <killer24nl> clarjon1: let me think
#550 [13:42] <clarjon1> Better to go to the actual device to see :)
#551 [13:42] <Fierce> killer24nl, Did you get the picture
#552 [13:42] <killer24nl> clarjon1: ehmm..infrastructure, does that count?
#553 [13:43] <killer24nl> Fierce: yes i did recieve it
#554 [13:43] <Fierce> This is what happens everytime.
#555 [13:43] <killer24nl> Clarjon1: U can watch my ehm video how i fixed it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHP_cKkpL1s
#556 [13:43] <VoxelHead> Minecraft tutorial: How to fix the can't reach servers problem |100% working | HD | 1.5.1 ( by MClightningHD )
#557 [13:44] <killer24nl> Voxelhead: lol?
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#559 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> killer24nl, OpenVPN will probably not match the speed for portforwarding
#560 [13:44] <killer24nl> tyteen4a03: indeed, it is kinda slow, how do i port forward?
#561 [13:44] <Fierce> killer24nl: What sha'll I do to fix it?
#562 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> killer24nl, clarjon1 is helping you, so reply to his questions
#563 [13:44] <killer24nl> fierce: use regular minecraft?
#564 [13:45] <killer24nl> tyteen4a03: sorry
#565 [13:45] <Fierce> Not my style.
#566 [13:45] <killer24nl> Clarjon1: are you there?
#567 [13:45] <clarjon1> I am here.
#568 [13:45] <Fierce> I am looking to fix it.
#569 [13:45] <killer24nl> Fierce: ok
#570 [13:45] <clarjon1> killer24nl: So, you have no access to the router interface?
#571 [13:45] <killer24nl> Fierce: gl
#572 [13:45] <killer24nl> clarjon: rout interface?
#573 [13:45] <clarjon1> Fierce: Well, you'll want to talk to the people who made that custom client.
#574 [13:45] <Fierce> Good luck?
#575 [13:45] <killer24nl> *router*
#576 [13:45] <killer24nl> Fierce: yes good luck
#577 [13:45] <Fierce> Who made XWoM?
#578 [13:46] <clarjon1> i unno
#579 [13:46] <killer24nl> Fierce: i dont know
#580 [13:46] <clarjon1> let me use the googles, Fierce
#581 [13:46] <worldmc> google is your friend
#582 [13:46] <killer24nl> Clarjon1: did you watched the video?
#583 [13:47] <clarjon1> killer24nl: are you on like a school internet connection or something?
#584 [13:47] <killer24nl> clarjon1: no i am on my own house internet :P
#585 [13:47] <clarjon1> well that's odd.
#586 [13:48] <clarjon1> you should contact your ISP if you can't get on it normally...
#587 [13:48] <killer24nl> clarjon1: my ISP is a little bit weird, it blocks piratebay
#588 [13:48] <killer24nl> clarjon1: but do you know a better VPN thingy?
#589 [13:49] <clarjon1> I do know of some, but you have to pay to use 'em. I don't really use free VPNs
#590 [13:49] <Fierce> Anyone have a clue on how to fix it?
#591 [13:49] <worldmc> clarjon1, he has been here for a week. several people tried to help him. all confused that he is on his home network and that it doesnt work. he is not even on a proxy that could have been it
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#593 [13:49] <clarjon1> Fierce: No.
#594 [13:50] <killer24nl> worldmc: indeed
#595 [13:50] <clarjon1> Fierce: Find the people who made the custom client.
#596 [13:50] <Fierce> There is no channel for that.
#597 [13:50] <clarjon1> Fierce: Minecraft Classic is not supported here.
#598 [13:50] <killer24nl> Fierce: just play regular mc
#599 [13:50] <clarjon1> heh
#600 [13:51] <Fierce> heh
#601 [13:51] <clarjon1> it looks like XWoM is an unauthorized modification of the WoM client
#602 [13:51] <killer24nl> ?
#603 [13:51] <clarjon1> I can't track down who made it.
#604 [13:51] <killer24nl> clarjon1: What do i need to do :P
#605 [13:51] <Fierce> It's MCdennzy I think?
#606 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> clarjon1, what is the original license for WoM anyways? All rights reserved?
#607 [13:51] <Fierce> Something like it
#608 [13:52] <killer24nl> Clarjon1: do i need to port forward like this? http://www.simpleportforwarding.com/
#609 [13:52] <clarjon1> killer24nl: port forwarding is only if you're hosting a minecraft server.
#610 [13:52] <Fierce> WoM does not work with anyone Now.
#611 [13:52] <killer24nl> clarjon1: ok but how do i portforward for my router?
#612 [13:53] <clarjon1> killer24nl: you have to know your router model, then punch into google: router model port forward minecraft
#613 [13:53] <Fierce> killer24nl: Type in Ipconfig in CommandPrompt
#614 [13:53] <Fierce> It will say your ip and type in your ip in the browser
#615 [13:53] <clarjon1> killer24nl: Anyways, it looks like your ISP is blocking you from contacting minecraft servers normally... You should phone them and let them know you're having issues with the game connecting, and that you know that it's not allowing you to connect to game servers, and that you've determined it's an issue with the ISP's connection because VPNs allow you to connect.
#616 [13:53] <killer24nl> lol ok
#617 [13:53] <Fierce> It should come up with your router.
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#619 [13:54] <killer24nl> nope
#620 [13:54] <clarjon1> killer24nl: Anyways, it looks like your ISP is blocking you from contacting minecraft servers normally... You should phone them and let them know you're having issues with the game connecting, and that you know that it's not allowing you to connect to game servers, and that you've determined it's an issue with the ISP's connection because VPNs allow you to connect.
#621 [13:55] <worldmc> watch out. dont trigger the spam
#622 [13:55] <worldmc> watch out. dont trigger the spam
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#624 [13:56] <killer24nl> clarjon1: but at my other pc it is working
#625 [13:56] <clarjon1> killer24nl: Is it on the same network?
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#627 [13:56] <clarjon1> killer24nl: the exact same net connection?
#628 [13:56] <killer24nl> clarjon1: yes
#629 [13:56] <killer24nl> clarjon1: yes yes
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#631 [13:56] <clarjon1> well that's quite weird.
#632 [13:57] <clarjon1> anyways, i have to get going for now.
#633 [13:57] <killer24nl> :c
#634 [13:58] <killer24nl> need to do some homework lol
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#636 [14:03] <IronGurl03> Cant Install Iinecraft on my mac...
#637 [14:04] <IronGurl03> The link to download minecraft for mac places a damaged file on my computer, repeated several times...
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#639 [14:05] <IronGurl03> anyone here to help a noob out?
#640 [14:05] <Fierce> This did nothing
#641 [14:05] <Fierce> :P
#642 [14:05] <Fierce> :P
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#644 [14:06] <ofna01> Iron, whats wrong?
#645 [14:06] <IronGurl03> The file is always damaged..
#646 [14:06] <IronGurl03> need a good link to a file...
#647 [14:07] <sugoi> IronGurl03: that is an issue with gatekeeper
#648 [14:07] <sugoi> ??> IronGurl03 gatekeeper
#649 [14:07] <Lutzee> ??> IronGurl03 mac/gatekeeper
#650 [14:07] <VoxelHead> IronGurl03: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, disable Gatekeeper entirely by following the instructions at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#651 [14:07] <beboo112> انا اشتريت ماين كرافت ولم ترسل رسالة التفعيل لماذا. انا اشتريتها قبل يومين
#652 [14:07] <VoxelHead> IronGurl03: (mac/gatekeeper) This is what the gatekeeper dialog looks like: http://cargo.dcurt.is.s3.amazonaws.com/unsigned.jpg
#653 [14:07] <Lutzee> ??> IronGurl03 mac/gatekeeper/disable
#654 [14:07] <sugoi> Lutzee: thanks, i need to refresh on those
#655 [14:07] <sugoi> beboo112: english only, please :)
#656 [14:07] <Lutzee> Ah.. they reverted it
#657 [14:08] <beboo112> I purchased the Maine Kraft did not send a message activation why.I bought it two days ago
#658 [14:08] <IronGurl03> I will try this, thank you
#659 [14:09] <beboo112> you want the ORDER namber?
#660 [14:09] <sugoi> beboo112: no
#661 [14:09] <sugoi> beboo112: we are not mojang employees, only community volunteers
#662 [14:10] <sugoi> beboo112: what web site did you buy from?
#663 [14:10] <beboo112> plees I want help
#664 [14:10] <sugoi> beboo112: answer my question, i will help
#665 [14:10] <beboo112> minecraft.net
#666 [14:11] <sugoi> beboo112: did you use a prepaird card?
#667 [14:11] <beboo112> I use VeZA
#668 [14:11] <beboo112> .
#669 [14:12] <IronGurl03> I cannot get the file to download without being corrupted, or dammaged
#670 [14:12] <IronGurl03> the Gatekeeper setting is not the issue
#671 [14:12] <sugoi> IronGurl03: it is due to gatekeeper, did you successfully disable gatekeeper?
#672 [14:12] <beboo112> I use VISA
#673 [14:12] <IronGurl03> I did
#674 [14:13] <beboo112> plees I want play minecraft help me
#675 [14:13] <sugoi> IronGurl03: i have seen 100% of the time that this is due to, and resolved by disabling, gatekeeper (many, many times)
#676 [14:14] <sugoi> IronGurl03: but i don't have more info to help troubleshoot why it isn't working yet for you, others here can tho, be patient :)
#677 [14:14] <sugoi> beboo112: is your visa a credit card, a debit card with your bank account, or a prepaid card?
#678 [14:14] <IronGurl03> ok, not sure i disabled gatekeeper...
#679 [14:15] <beboo112> it is for my ankl
#680 [14:16] <sugoi> ankl?
#681 [14:17] <beboo112> Uncle
#682 [14:17] <sugoi> beboo112: i dont believe the online purchase discriminates your motive :)
#683 [14:18] <sugoi> beboo112: but, what type of card is it? (knowing it is a visa is not sufficient)
#684 [14:18] <sugoi> is it credit, debit, or prepaid
#685 [14:18] <beboo112> VISA
#686 [14:18] <sugoi> beboo112: that does not answer my question
#687 [14:18] <sugoi> you can get prepaid visas
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#689 [14:18] <sugoi> beboo112: the point is, the purchase will not work with prepaid cards
#690 [14:19] <sugoi> beboo112: you can confirm no money was transferred by calling the card provider
#691 [14:19] <beboo112> you want the ORDER number?
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#694 [14:19] <sugoi> beboo112: the website will act like your purchase was completed, but the money transfer never have occurred
#695 [14:19] <sugoi> beboo112: NO
#696 [14:19] <sugoi> beboo112: we are community members, volunteers - we do not work for mojang
#697 [14:20] <beboo112> انا لا اعرف الانجليزية جيدا
#698 [14:20] <sugoi> beboo112: never give your account info or payment id here
#699 [14:20] <beboo112> I do not know English well
#700 [14:20] <TheTrooble> So I'm trying to host a 1.5 server with the default software and when my friend tries to connect he gets java bad packet id 50 error, any ideas?
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#702 [14:20] <sugoi> beboo112: try this, go to mojang.com/me (and log in)
#703 [14:20] <sugoi> TheTrooble: he should run with the latest java version
#704 [14:21] <TheTrooble> He has it, and this is happening to all my friends
#705 [14:21] <TheTrooble> also my minecraft crashes when i try to connect
#706 [14:21] <sugoi> TheTrooble: what about you? have you been able to log in?
#707 [14:21] <sugoi> heh
#708 [14:21] <TheTrooble> no
#709 [14:21] <sugoi> beboo112: https://account.mojang.com/login
#710 [14:21] <TheTrooble> which is odd, ive been hosting servers for the group for 2 years now
#711 [14:21] <sugoi> TheTrooble: but when trying 1.5, this started?
#712 [14:22] <TheTrooble> yeah
#713 [14:22] <sugoi> have you tried with a purely clean "install" of the server?
#714 [14:22] <TheTrooble> yup
#715 [14:22] <sugoi> by which i mean, totally empty dir, not pre-existing world files, and only the server jar from minecraft.net/download ?
#716 [14:23] <TheTrooble> yes
#717 [14:23] <TheTrooble> well
#718 [14:23] <TheTrooble> i used the exe
#719 [14:23] <TheTrooble> but empty everything yes
#720 [14:23] <sugoi> that's fine
#721 [14:23] <sugoi> ok
#722 [14:23] <sugoi> TheTrooble: and on that same machine, other server instances still work?
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#724 [14:24] <TheTrooble> umm, we havent been able to test older ones
#725 [14:24] <sugoi> why? same error?
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#727 [14:24] <sugoi> or you mean you just haven't had time to test that?
#728 [14:24] <TheTrooble> no, we dont have old copies of minecraft
#729 [14:24] <sugoi> oh i see
#730 [14:25] <TheTrooble> i suppose he could backdate and we could test it
#731 [14:25] <sugoi> Lutzee: old version?
#732 [14:25] <sugoi> TheTrooble: i think it is worth it to test this
#733 [14:25] <Jon24> Where should I go for help installing Minecraft Forge?
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#735 [14:25] <sugoi> Jon24: go to forge's official mod page, they typically have lniks to info, forums, and possibly irc channels
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#739 [14:28] <sugoi> beboo112: did you log in to mojan.com?
#740 [14:28] <TheTrooble> hes gonna downgrade to 1.4.2 and test that server real quick
#741 [14:28] <beboo112> yes
#742 [14:28] <sugoi> beboo112: now go to mojang.com/me
#743 [14:28] <sugoi> beboo112: do you see "My Games" ?
#744 [14:28] <sugoi> TheTrooble: while your 1.5 is starting, does the console print any errors?
#745 [14:29] <TheTrooble> no, it looks like it should work fine
#746 [14:30] <beboo112> haw i see my games
#747 [14:31] <killer24nl> lol i love it how beboo112 speaks eglish :)
#748 [14:31] <killer24nl> lol sorry
#749 [14:31] <sugoi> beboo112: are you at http://mojang.com/me ?
#750 [14:31] <killer24nl> *english*
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#753 [14:33] <beboo112> I did not find my games
#754 [14:33] <sugoi> beboo112: are you at http://mojang.com/me ?
#755 [14:33] <beboo112> yes
#756 [14:34] <sugoi> beboo112: on the left, does it first have a "My Account" ?
#757 [14:34] <sugoi> beboo112: followed by your email
#758 [14:35] <TheTrooble> he tried it with 1.4.2 and got the same error
#759 [14:35] <beboo112> yes yes
#760 [14:35] <beboo112> and?
#761 [14:36] <sugoi> TheTrooble: oddly enough...i have seen removal of java, and clean install, fix issues before
#762 [14:36] <sugoi> TheTrooble: would you try that?
#763 [14:36] <beboo112> I have minecraft
#764 [14:36] <sugoi> beboo112: it is listed?
#765 [14:36] <TheTrooble> like uninstall java, and reinstall
#766 [14:36] <TheTrooble> ?
#767 [14:36] <sugoi> beboo112: under "My Games"
#768 [14:36] <sugoi> TheTrooble: yes
#769 [14:36] <TheTrooble> ok
#770 [14:36] <beboo112> yes
#771 [14:37] <sugoi> beboo112: to the right, do you see a download link for minecraft?
#772 [14:37] <sugoi> beboo112: says "Download Client" with "Windows | Mac OS X | Linux"
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#778 [14:41] <TheTrooble> so i did a clean reinstall of java and we are still getting the same error
#779 [14:41] <sugoi> TheTrooble: this is weird :)
#780 [14:41] <sugoi> TheTrooble: have you tried connecting to your server on localhost?
#781 [14:42] <PIKAPIKA> uhh i purchased minecraft got to the start page where i give my username and passcode it says not premium. what dod i do?
#782 [14:42] <sugoi> do you ahve that option?
#783 [14:42] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: did you buy it with a prepaird card?
#784 [14:42] <TheTrooble> yes i have, it crashed my minecraft
#785 [14:42] <PIKAPIKA> yes
#786 [14:42] <sugoi> TheTrooble: crashed with the same error?
#787 [14:42] <TheTrooble> no, crashed with a file dump
#788 [14:42] <PIKAPIKA> i bought with a prepaid caed
#789 [14:43] <PIKAPIKA> card*
#790 [14:43] <sugoi> TheTrooble: oh? that's troubling
#791 [14:43] <sugoi> TheTrooble: care to share that crash report via pastebin?
#792 [14:43] <TheTrooble> sure, give me a minute
#793 [14:43] <killer24nl> i'm back
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#795 [14:43] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: will not work with prepaid card. you will find that your balance on the card has not be deducted
#796 [14:43] <killer24nl> o lol
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#798 [14:43] <PIKAPIKA> so what do i do? re enter
#799 [14:43] <PIKAPIKA> ?
#800 [14:44] <PIKAPIKA> I bought it at a local gamestop
#801 [14:44] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: try another card, which is NOT prepaid, but a real card :) use the same email if you want
#802 [14:44] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: ... you bought an account from gamestop?
#803 [14:45] <TheTrooble> http://pastebin.com/Qy4gnifm
#804 [14:45] <PIKAPIKA> i dont have another card. and no
#805 [14:45] <PIKAPIKA> i bought the card from gamestop
#806 [14:45] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: oh, yeah, that isn't goign to work, that's what i've been trying to say
#807 [14:45] <sugoi> no. prepaid. cards
#808 [14:45] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: you can also use paypal
#809 [14:45] <PIKAPIKA> then whats the point of them
#810 [14:45] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: feel free to try again using the same email, you won't be charged twice on the same email
#811 [14:46] <PIKAPIKA> i got it for my birthday DX
#812 [14:46] <sugoi> TheTrooble: when does that happen?
#813 [14:47] <TheTrooble> i think he's saying he got the minecraft card, not a prepaid credit card
#814 [14:47] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: happy birthday... ?
#815 [14:47] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: you have a mojang card?
#816 [14:47] <PIKAPIKA> HOW DO I GET TO PLAY IT?!
#817 [14:47] <TheTrooble> uhh, it happens shortly after i try to connect, it sits at the dirt screen for a moment then crashes
#818 [14:47] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: patience - all caps won't fix anything :)
#819 [14:48] <sugoi> TheTrooble: what about single player?
#820 [14:48] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: if you have a mojang card, go here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/816435-redeeming-a-prepaid-card
#821 [14:48] <PIKAPIKA> im 12 no credit or debit cards!
#822 [14:48] <TheTrooble> single player works fine
#823 [14:48] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: you're not readying+answering all of my questions
#824 [14:49] <sugoi> TheTrooble: one sec
#825 [14:49] <tyteen4a03> TheTrooble, has Minecraft worked before?
#826 [14:49] <TheTrooble> yes
#827 [14:49] <PIKAPIKA> i dont have a mojang card i have a minecraft gift card for the game. its said im not premium
#828 [14:49] <TheTrooble> ive been hosting this server for 2 years
#829 [14:49] <tyteen4a03> ??> TheTrooble forceupdate
#830 [14:49] <VoxelHead> TheTrooble: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#831 [14:49] <VoxelHead> TheTrooble: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#832 [14:49] <TheTrooble> you dont know what the issue is
#833 [14:50] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: he has been hosting for some time, it isn't his client that is the problem (at least not only that
#834 [14:50] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, have you redeemed the gift card?
#835 [14:50] <PIKAPIKA> yes
#836 [14:50] <TheTrooble> im not trying to fix my minecraft
#837 [14:50] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, looked like a client problem at first glance
#838 [14:50] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: this started with 1.5
#839 [14:50] <TheTrooble> im trying to fix my server
#840 [14:50] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: yaeh, i was only trying to narrow on the problem
#841 [14:50] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, the first pastebin he showed is a client one
#842 [14:50] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: instead, i only raised more questions
#843 [14:50] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: right, i had him run client on the server
#844 [14:50] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: he says it works, but not when connected to the troubled server
#845 [14:50] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, go to http://account.mojang.com/me
#846 [14:51] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, what do you see under My Games?
#847 [14:51] <tyteen4a03> 32bit Win8...
#848 [14:51] <PIKAPIKA> minecraft
#849 [14:51] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, have you set up a Minecraft username yet?
#850 [14:51] <PIKAPIKA> yes
#851 [14:51] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, login with your Mojang account email
#852 [14:52] <sugoi> 32bit win8? when will 32 ever die? :)
#853 [14:52] <TheTrooble> and if it helps i can connect to other peoples servers
#854 [14:52] <PIKAPIKA> i have already its on my screen now
#855 [14:52] <PIKAPIKA> like the start to get to the start page of the game
#856 [14:52] <sugoi> TheTrooble: you've already proven that?
#857 [14:52] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, Minecraft username please?
#858 [14:52] <sugoi> tested*
#859 [14:52] <TheTrooble> i tried it just now
#860 [14:52] <PIKAPIKA> on here now?
#861 [14:53] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, yes
#862 [14:53] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, when 128bit comes out or a native 64bit Arch CPU becomes more popular
#863 [14:53] <sugoi> TheTrooble: heh, well good to know it works i guess, i was just setting up a test server for you to hit
#864 [14:53] <PIKAPIKA> but this is public
#865 [14:53] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, your Minecraft username have nothing to do with your personal information
#866 [14:53] <PIKAPIKA> loveya01
#867 [14:53] <sugoi> PIKAPIKA: usernames aren't dangerous to give out, mine is payonel if you care to know
#868 [14:54] <sugoi> well, i have a few tbh, but i mostly play on payoenl
#869 [14:54] <sugoi> except, without the typo
#870 [14:54] <sugoi> ANYwho
#871 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, you may have redeemed your gift code incorrectly, send an email to Mojang with your Mojang account email and your gift card code
#872 [14:54] <tyteen4a03> ??> PIKAPIKA mojang/email
#873 [14:54] <VoxelHead> PIKAPIKA: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#874 [14:54] <sugoi> TheTrooble: so it works on remote servers fine? and single, just not _your_ server
#875 [14:54] <sugoi> TheTrooble: your local "server instance"*
#876 [14:54] <PIKAPIKA> THX SO MUCH VOXELHEAD!!
#877 [14:54] <TheTrooble> yes
#878 [14:55] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: stop spamming and let VoxelHead just do his thing :)
#879 [14:55] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, VoxelHead is a bot, and no problem
#880 [14:55] <PIKAPIKA> dont get smart
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#882 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, don't get dumb either
#883 [14:56] <sugoi> :)
#884 [14:56] <PIKAPIKA> do u work for mojang
#885 [14:57] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, none of us do
#886 [14:57] <TheTrooble> does anyone here have expirience with the java bad packet id 50 error?
#887 [14:57] <tyteen4a03> TheTrooble, bad packet? sounds like modded side VS unmodded side
#888 [14:57] <sugoi> TheTrooble: can you take a checksum of your server exe?
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#890 [14:57] <TheTrooble> how do i do that?
#891 [14:57] <sugoi> TheTrooble: os?
#892 [14:57] <TheTrooble> and no, its not modded
#893 [14:57] <TheTrooble> 64 bit win8
#894 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> TheTrooble, your system is 32bit, not 64bit
#895 [14:58] <TheTrooble> it sure as hell is not
#896 [14:58] <sugoi> ha
#897 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> TheTrooble, your own java crash report says otherwise
#898 [14:58] <sugoi> Windows 8 (x86)
#899 [14:58] <sugoi> TheTrooble: ^ that was in your pastebin
#900 [14:59] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, I would take the ha back
#901 [14:59] <TheTrooble> how many pieces of proof would you like?
#902 [14:59] <sugoi> the "ha" was for his anger response
#903 [14:59] <tyteen4a03> TheTrooble, dxdiag, crash report, whatever you like
#904 [14:59] <sugoi> does it say x86 for x64 os builds?
#905 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, x86-64 for 64bit builds
#906 [15:00] <TheTrooble> listen, i promise you i have a 64bit system
#907 [15:00] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: that's what i would expect
#908 [15:00] <TheTrooble> first off i have the ProgramFiles(x86) folder
#909 [15:00] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: so why recant my 'ha'? for politeness?
#910 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, yup
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#912 [15:00] <sugoi> i didn't mean it rudely, i was laughing at his anger
#913 [15:00] <TheTrooble> secondly i personally installed the 64 bit system
#914 [15:00] <sugoi> TheTrooble: sorry if i sounded like i was mocking you
#915 [15:01] <sugoi> i just thought it escalated quickly, and that was humerous to me
#916 [15:01] <TheTrooble> 3rdly i have 24 GB RAM which (from expirience) wouldnt all show up if it was 32 bit
#917 [15:01] <TheTrooble> so can we drop the whole 64bit-32bit thing and move on?
#918 [15:02] <sugoi> TheTrooble: a bit touchy tho :)
#919 [15:02] <PIKAPIKA> on the store it says ipremium
#920 [15:02] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, what store?
#921 [15:02] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, the Minecraft store?
#922 [15:02] <PIKAPIKA> yes
#923 [15:02] <TheTrooble> not touch, just frustrated with the problem i'm having
#924 [15:02] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, can you access the game now then?
#925 [15:03] <PIKAPIKA> no
#926 [15:03] <sugoi> TheTrooble: the java crash report was misleading then, even i have accidentially installed 32bit os's on my 64bit machines
#927 [15:03] <TheTrooble> touchy*
#928 [15:03] <tyteen4a03> PIKAPIKA, send an email anyway, your account seems to be stuck in a weird dimension
#929 [15:03] <sugoi> TheTrooble: but, let's confirm the checksum of the exe
#930 [15:04] <sugoi> i'm looking for a safe download for such a tool (a default tool for *nix distro's, mind you)
#931 [15:04] <PIKAPIKA> its working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#932 [15:05] <TheTrooble> well, i just downloaded it from minecraft.net so i dont think the exe should be an issue
#933 [15:05] <sugoi> TheTrooble: get this tool: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/binary/sha1sum.exe
#934 [15:06] <sugoi> TheTrooble: i dug carefully for that link, fyi - it is trusted
#935 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, anyone that knows tech should be able to tell safe links from unsafe ones
#936 [15:07] <sugoi> well i don't know what he knows :)
#937 [15:07] <TheTrooble> what do i do with this? running it just opens and closes a dos window
#938 [15:07] <TheTrooble> im a computer engineering major im pretty smart
#939 [15:07] <sugoi> TheTrooble: move it to the same folder as your minecraft server exe
#940 [15:07] <sugoi> TheTrooble: the open a cmd window, and run `sha1sum minecraft_server.exe`
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#942 [15:09] <sugoi> the very latest (as of RIGHT now) minecraft server exe from minecraft.net/download should have a sha1sum of: 5492d8d1dfaff8b9dce1536a1e578e60b57b4d31 Minecraft_Server.exe
#943 [15:09] <sskerr> I need help in a bad way
#944 [15:09] * sugoi gives sskerr some help
#944 [15:09] <sugoi> sskerr: did that resolve your problem?
#945 [15:09] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, I think he needs major surgeries
#946 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> back on topic, sskerr: can you elaborate on your problem?
#947 [15:10] <sugoi> oof, i'm not surgeon, sorry
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#949 [15:10] <sskerr> I have opened up port through the internet company and still cannot creat a server on my windows computer
#950 [15:10] <sugoi> sskerr: can you connect from another computer in the same hosue?
#951 [15:10] <sugoi> house*
#952 [15:10] <sskerr> yes my mac
#953 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, your Windows server and your Mac Client are in the same house, right?
#954 [15:11] <sugoi> !check sskerr
#955 [15:11] <sskerr> yes
#956 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, I highly advise against that shortcut
#957 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, in that case, which address did you give out to people outside your house?
#958 [15:11] <sskerr> and yes we have tried two different ip addresses
#959 [15:11] <sskerr> the only one my kids can connect to is my mac
#960 [15:12] <TheTrooble> yeah its got the same checksum
#961 [15:12] <sskerr> I cannot connect to theirs
#962 [15:12] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, a server is one-sided - you may be looking for the Open to LAN feature instead
#963 [15:13] <sskerr> how do I do open lan
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#965 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, get into a world, and press Esc
#966 [15:13] <sskerr> ok
#967 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, on the menu you should see Open to LAN feature - click it
#968 [15:13] <sskerr> it wont let us open it
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#970 [15:14] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, then on the other computer, simply enter the Multiplayer section and it should see the other computer in a minute or so
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#972 [15:14] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, the Open to LAN feature must be done in the client
#973 [15:14] <TheTrooble> so if it has the same checksum what do i do now?
#974 [15:14] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, in this case, you don't need minecraft_server.exe
#975 [15:14] <sugoi> TheTrooble: is there a remote chance you have accidentally left another 1.5 running? and all this time you've been connecting to IT instead?
#976 [15:14] <TheTrooble> nope
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#978 [15:15] <sskerr> we already have the server.exe
#979 [15:15] <sugoi> TheTrooble: do you have 2 machines?
#980 [15:15] <sugoi> TheTrooble: can we test b=>a instead of a=>b?
#981 [15:15] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, you don't need that
#982 [15:16] <TheTrooble> I have another machine
#983 [15:16] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, simply run the client and do it from there
#984 [15:16] <sskerr> ok ill try now
#985 [15:17] <sskerr> it says no way points?
#986 [15:17] <TheTrooble> what do you want me to do with my other machine?
#987 [15:18] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, no way points? where does it say that?
#988 [15:18] <sskerr> sorry, so how do others connect to the land
#989 [15:18] <sugoi> TheTrooble: first, on your server machine, press win+break, what does it say under "System", the "System type" row
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#991 [15:19] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, on the other end, run Minecraft and head to Multiplayer, and from there wait a minute or so for the other side to appear on the server list
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#993 [15:19] <sugoi> TheTrooble: nevermind
#994 [15:19] <sskerr> ok thx
#995 [15:19] <tyteen4a03> sskerr, no problem
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#997 [15:20] <sugoi> TheTrooble: do you have any server instances that start on boot?
#998 [15:20] <TheTrooble> no
#999 [15:21] <sugoi> TheTrooble: remote all files from your 1.5 folder, except for the minecraft_server.exe (with the verified good checksum :)
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#1001 [15:21] <sugoi> TheTrooble: and..reboot. seriously - then run no other instance but 1.5
#1002 [15:21] <sugoi> TheTrooble: and test
#1003 [15:21] <TheTrooble> remove?
#1004 [15:21] <sugoi> TheTrooble: yes, or make an empty test folder with only the minecraft_server.exe
#1005 [15:21] <sugoi> and then test from that, after reboot
#1006 [15:21] <Ryladine> TheTrooble, Yes, that remote was supposed to be remove.
#1007 [15:22] <sugoi> Ryladine: oh, thanks
#1008 [15:22] <TheTrooble> ok brb
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#1022 [15:28] <TheTrooble> so i did what you said and still have the same problem
#1023 [15:29] <TheTrooble> any more ideas?
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#1025 [15:30] <sugoi> TheTrooble: how many java versions do you have installed?
#1026 [15:30] <TheTrooble> 2, java 6 and 7
#1027 [15:30] <sugoi> do you need them all?
#1028 [15:31] <TheTrooble> i dont think so
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#1030 [15:31] <TheTrooble> should i uninstall 6?
#1031 [15:31] <sugoi> i want you to remove all java
#1032 [15:32] <sugoi> and i'm looking for that javara removal tool
#1033 [15:32] <sugoi> you can use your control panel to remove them
#1034 [15:32] <sugoi> but i want to be sure
#1035 [15:32] <TheTrooble> i dont want to get that extreme
#1036 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Wait..
#1037 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> <TheTrooble> So I'm trying to host a 1.5 server with the default software and when my friend tries to connect he gets java bad packet id 50 error, any ideas?
#1038 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Is that the problem?
#1039 [15:32] <TheTrooble> yes
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#1041 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> You're running 1.5, not 1.5.1?
#1042 [15:33] <TheTrooble> no, its 1.5.1
#1043 [15:33] <sugoi> he's using the latest server exe from minecraft.net/download, so 1.5.1 (and checksum confirmed)
#1044 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> And what version is your friend running?
#1045 [15:33] <TheTrooble> same
#1046 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Are you absolutely sure?
#1047 [15:33] <TheTrooble> yes
#1048 [15:33] <sugoi> he has also tested from localhost, say error, and his local client is unmodded and up to date, and can play singleplayer no issue, and connect remotely, no issue
#1049 [15:33] <TheTrooble> plus i cant connect to my own server
#1050 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Have you given us a copy of your server.log yet?
#1051 [15:34] <sugoi> no
#1052 [15:34] <TheTrooble> uhhhh, no
#1053 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Could I see one? Paste it at www.pastebin.com
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#1056 [15:35] <TheTrooble> yes, but it doesnt say anything when people try to connect so its literally just it creating the world and then stopping
#1057 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> I'd like to just check it out for myself.
#1058 [15:35] <TheTrooble> ok
#1059 [15:36] <TheTrooble> http://pastebin.com/pGR5Tv1r
#1060 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Alright, and how, and with what IP address are you using to connect to your own server?
#1061 [15:37] <TheTrooble> localhost
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#1063 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> And you get the bad packet ID error?
#1064 [15:37] <TheTrooble> no, my minecraft crashes, i put the pastebin for that a little while back
#1065 [15:38] <sugoi> http://pastebin.com/Qy4gnifm
#1066 [15:38] <TheTrooble> right there
#1067 [15:38] <TheTrooble> i cant see it cause i restarted my pc
#1068 [15:38] <sugoi> why does his log say listening thread closed?
#1069 [15:39] <sugoi> oh, his log included stop
#1070 [15:39] <sugoi> TheTrooble: do you have anti virus running?
#1071 [15:39] <TheTrooble> no
#1072 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> TheTrooble - Try a force update on your client, and try connecting again?
#1073 [15:40] <TheTrooble> already did
#1074 [15:40] <TheTrooble> actually wait i think my antivirus is on
#1075 [15:40] <TheTrooble> but my firewall is off
#1076 [15:40] <sugoi> TheTrooble: can you disable antivirus and test
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#1078 [15:41] <TheTrooble> same problem
#1079 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried creating a new world entirely?
#1080 [15:42] <TheTrooble> yes
#1081 [15:42] <sugoi> i asked him to reboot and run minecraft_server.exe from an empty folder
#1082 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, very strange.
#1083 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Out of curiosity, where is the server file(s) located?
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#1086 [15:46] <TheTrooble> its in my 2nd hard drive in my servers folder
#1087 [15:47] <sugoi> i would remove all traces of java, make sure i had the latest 64 bit java installed, go to great lengths to make sure antivirus is off, and test again
#1088 [15:47] <sugoi> that's honestly all i have left
#1089 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> That's definitely an option
#1090 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Bad packet ID, means the server has received data from the client, which it does not know how to respond with.
#1091 [15:48] <TheTrooble> so you honestly think this will fix it?
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#1093 [15:48] <sugoi> i could only help or do nothing
#1094 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Often times, this means that the server is modded, or the client is modded in a way that neither does not know what to do with the custom info
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#1096 [15:49] <TheTrooble> but both are completely vanilla
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#1098 [15:49] <TheTrooble> like, newely downloaded an hour ago
#1099 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Have you removed everything from your client's .minecraft folder, to have minecraft download completely fresh files?
#1100 [15:49] <sugoi> TheTrooble: right, he's only explaining where we typically see this error
#1101 [15:49] <TheTrooble> yes
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#1103 [15:50] <sugoi> TheTrooble: such as, rename your .minecraft folder - then run the launcher (the vanilla one from minecraft.net/download) and connect to your localhsot
#1104 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Another reason why we see this, comes from security software. Many firewall software filter the connection between client and server. Do you have any such security software on the computer?
#1105 [15:50] <TheTrooble> i deleted my .minecraft folder and did that
#1106 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> I'm not talking about just an antivirus, but an actual network monitoring solution.
#1107 [15:51] <TheTrooble> no, i dont have any security software
#1108 [15:51] <cholzer> I am a teacher who has chromebooks. can you recommend how to get minecraft to run on a chromebook at school?
#1109 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> cholzer - Sorry, it is not currently possible to run minecraft on a chromebook
#1110 [15:51] <cholzer> ugh... bummer! thanks!
#1111 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/920822-minecraft-on-chromebooks
#1112 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> TheTrooble - Then yeah, if you're absolutely sure the server is vanilla, and the client is vanilla, I'd look at your java install. Completely remove all instances of java and reinstall fresh
#1113 [15:53] <TheTrooble> doing that now
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#1115 [15:54] <sugoi> ..and just make sure you have no network-comm-affecting software (antivirus, network monitors)
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#1117 [15:55] <TheTrooble> reinstalled java, same problem, and no i dont have any network-comm-affecting software
#1118 [15:57] <sugoi> TheTrooble: and you grabbed 64bit java?
#1119 [15:59] <sugoi> or at least check your task manager when your server is running, the java running "image name" will show "*32" if it is 32bit
#1120 [15:59] <sugoi> this shouldn't be the problem
#1121 [15:59] <sugoi> i'm just curious
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#1123 [15:59] <TheTrooble> just a sec
#1124 [16:00] <TheTrooble> its says 32 bit, i thought i got 64bit though
#1125 [16:00] <TheTrooble> guess i misclicked
#1126 [16:00] <sugoi> TheTrooble: your browser may be 32 bit, and java.com will give 32 unless you ask for another (when java.com sees you have a 32 bit browser)
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#1128 [16:00] <TheTrooble> maybe
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#1134 [16:04] <TheTrooble> tried installing 64bit, same issue
#1135 [16:05] <sugoi> but you have 1 java installed atm?
#1136 [16:05] <TheTrooble> yes
#1137 [16:08] <TheTrooble> anyone have any suggestions?
#1138 [16:09] <sugoi> i really think something is blocking it
#1139 [16:09] <sugoi> that's all i have left
#1140 [16:10] <TheTrooble> i dont have any software like that though
#1141 [16:10] <sugoi> i thought you said you had antivirus
#1142 [16:10] <TheTrooble> its off though
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#1145 [16:11] <slcjr89> why can i not purchase this game?
#1146 [16:11] <sugoi> slcjr89: cannot use prepaid cards
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#1148 [16:11] <slcjr89> i am using my debit card
#1149 [16:12] <sugoi> TheTrooble: it's time to walk away, get the blood moving
#1150 [16:12] <sugoi> TheTrooble: come back to the problem later, realize something you missed
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#1152 [16:12] <sugoi> TheTrooble: and most important :P, let us know what it was :)
#1153 [16:12] <slcjr89> can no one help??
#1154 [16:12] <sugoi> slcjr89: at what point does the purchase fail?
#1155 [16:13] <sugoi> slcjr89: patience - this is irc - also, you haven't explained your problem
#1156 [16:13] <slcjr89> i enter all my info and continue after the debit entry and it says my card deposits disabled
#1157 [16:13] <sugoi> slcjr89: in irc, you ask, and wait - be patient, people may be otherwise occupied
#1158 [16:13] <clarjon1> slcjr89: talk to your bank, find out why it's not working.
#1159 [16:14] <sugoi> slcjr89: yep, call your bank
#1160 [16:14] <clarjon1> slcjr89: it could be that your bank isnot allowing you to purchase from an international payment system.
#1161 [16:14] <slcjr89> ahhh ok thanks
#1162 [16:14] <sugoi> yep
#1163 [16:14] <slcjr89> be back with results
#1164 [16:14] <clarjon1> slcjr89: please note, this room is full of volunteers, we have no real way to look at any transactions or account details :)
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#1166 [16:18] <slcjr89> yea well its worth a try lol
#1167 [16:22] <slcjr89> is there any other way to buy it online and download it?
#1168 [16:23] <sugoi> slcjr89: paypal
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#1174 [16:30] <Verbosity> Anyone know if there's any plas
#1175 [16:30] <Verbosity> *plans to start saving players achievements to a server, so there's actually a point of them being there?
#1176 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1177 [16:31] <Verbosity> oh well...
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#1180 [16:33] <sugoi> tho not exactly what you asked, i thought achv's were supposed to move to a minecraft official account db
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#1182 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: just like there was supposed to be a Mod API since, what, 2010?
#1183 [16:35] <sugoi> nevermind, i can find NOTHING verifying that
#1184 [16:35] <sugoi> :)
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#1188 [16:42] <jdizzle> does anyone know what this means (Reference: e3125591-b853-4772-9b60-e7953bcebb93)
#1189 [16:43] <jdizzle> google couldnt find it :|
#1190 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Looks like some sort of reference ID. Did you perhaps send in a help ticket?
#1191 [16:44] <jdizzle> no i was trying to buy MC with pay pal
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#1193 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Then it'll be something you'll need to take up with Paypal's support
#1194 [16:46] <jdizzle> omg:| Ive been having issues for 2 days with this...well i guess Xbox version will have to do
#1195 [16:46] <sugoi> and why not just call paypal?
#1196 [16:47] <jdizzle> first it was my bank then my internet now its pay pal :|
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#1198 [16:47] <sugoi> where do you se this reference number?
#1199 [16:47] <sugoi> in an email?
#1200 [16:47] <sugoi> an error code on a web site?
#1201 [16:47] <jdizzle> on the MC website after i entered my paypal info
#1202 [16:48] <tyteen4a03> ??> sugoi transactionid
#1203 [16:48] <VoxelHead> sugoi: (transactionid) How to find your Transaction ID: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
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#1205 [16:48] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: what does that have to do with reference numbers?
#1206 [16:48] <tyteen4a03> sugoi, the article outlines what reference numbers are
#1207 [16:49] <sugoi> the article has no mention of the word "reference"
#1208 [16:49] <sugoi> also, none of the _those_ ids are of that length
#1209 [16:50] <jdizzle> true sugoi
#1210 [16:50] <jdizzle> just looked
#1211 [16:51] <jdizzle> but anyways i think that is good enough for me to say i dont need the game...lol
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#1219 [17:06] <metalmouth02> my mine screen is glitchy
#1220 [17:07] <sugoi> mods? custom texture packs? hd texture support?
#1221 [17:07] <sugoi> and, has it worked before?
#1222 [17:07] <metalmouth02> yes but when i get on it flickers
#1223 [17:08] <sugoi> metalmouth02: "yes" to which questions?
#1224 [17:08] <RyCrafter> Hello, I'm having a problem with purchasing a Minecraft account. What is wrong is a purchased one and it went through, but I haven't got the email prompting me to make a username to play with.
#1225 [17:08] <metalmouth02> it has workes but now it flickers
#1226 [17:08] <sugoi> metalmouth02: change in mods?
#1227 [17:09] <metalmouth02> i have no mods
#1228 [17:09] <RyCrafter> By the way I purchased it on Monday, so it's been over the 24 hours.
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#1230 [17:09] <sugoi> RyCrafter: can you log into mojang.com
#1231 [17:09] <RyCrafter> yws
#1232 [17:09] <sugoi> metalmouth02: hd texture pack support added?
#1233 [17:09] <RyCrafter> yes I menat
#1234 [17:09] <sugoi> RyCrafter: once logged in, go to mojang.com/me
#1235 [17:09] <metalmouth02> 1
#1236 [17:09] <RyCrafter> okay then what
#1237 [17:10] <sugoi> RyCrafter: see "My Games" ?
#1238 [17:10] <RyCrafter> ok
#1239 [17:10] <sugoi> metalmouth02: try force update, and use default texture
#1240 [17:10] <sugoi> metalmouth02: after that, does problem persist?
#1241 [17:11] <RyCrafter> ok at games
#1242 [17:11] <sugoi> does it list minecraft?
#1243 [17:11] <RyCrafter> wait hold on i am at the mincraft website
#1244 [17:12] <metalmouth02> how do you force update
#1245 [17:12] <RyCrafter> and logged in
#1246 [17:12] <sugoi> ??> metalmouth02 forceupdate
#1247 [17:12] <VoxelHead> metalmouth02: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1248 [17:12] <VoxelHead> metalmouth02: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1249 [17:13] <RyCrafter> hey sugoi i am logged in and at the minecraft website what now?
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#1251 [17:14] <GTWJ1> Hello
#1252 [17:14] <sugoi> RyCrafter: go to mojang.com
#1253 [17:14] <sugoi> GTWJ1: hi
#1254 [17:14] <RyCrafter> ok
#1255 [17:14] <RyCrafter> now what
#1256 [17:14] <sugoi> RyCrafter: top right, click "log in"
#1257 [17:14] <sugoi> RyCrafter: i'm multitasking :)
#1258 [17:14] <sugoi> <- at work
#1259 [17:15] <RyCrafter> ok im logged in
#1260 [17:15] <sugoi> now go to "mojang.com/me"
#1261 [17:15] <GTWJ1> I'm having an issue with the item stacks in the single digits flickering different colors. It's been doing this since 1.5 was released, I've not had this problem before.
#1262 [17:15] <RyCrafter> last time it took me o merchindise
#1263 [17:15] <sugoi> GTWJ1: do a force update
#1264 [17:15] <sugoi> ??> GTWJ1 forceupdate
#1265 [17:15] <GTWJ1> I have
#1266 [17:15] <VoxelHead> GTWJ1: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1267 [17:15] <VoxelHead> GTWJ1: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1268 [17:16] <RyCrafter> RyCrafter!webchat@ip68-0-91-218.tu.ok.cox.net PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp
#1269 [17:16] <RyCrafter> is that right
#1270 [17:16] <sugoi> RyCrafter: sounds like you didn't log in
#1271 [17:17] <RyCrafter> ok hold on
#1272 [17:17] <sugoi> in place of "log in", does the button now say "my account" ?
#1273 [17:17] <GTWJ1> I have force updated, reinstalled Minecraft completely and updated Java + my graphics drivers and the annoying flickering won't go away.
#1274 [17:17] <sugoi> GTWJ1: has it worked before?
#1275 [17:17] <RyCrafter> yup im there but under my games it says "did you know you could import an account"
#1276 [17:18] <metalmouth02> i played about 30 seconds after the downloads it started flickering again
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#1278 [17:18] <RyCrafter> sugoi there are no games listed
#1279 [17:18] <TheTrooble> so i figured it out
#1280 [17:19] <GTWJ1> I did not start experiencing this problem until 1.5 was released. It worked fine back in 1.4.7. Could the issue be due to a change in how the game renders items?
#1281 [17:19] <sugoi> metalmouth02: is your flicker the same flicker GTWJ1 is seeing?
#1282 [17:19] <Extreme> Gtwj1,driver issue?
#1283 [17:19] <sugoi> GTWJ1, metalmouth02: are you guys on older macs?
#1284 [17:19] <GTWJ1> No.
#1285 [17:19] <sugoi> TheTrooble: !!?!
#1286 [17:20] <sugoi> RyCrafter: did you pay with a prepaid card?
#1287 [17:20] <sugoi> RyCrafter: have i asked you this?
#1288 [17:20] * sugoi isn't good at multitasking, tbh
#1288 [17:20] * Extreme agrees
#1288 [17:20] <TheTrooble> so the problem was that i had run an ftp on the 25565 port like a week ago
#1289 [17:20] <RyCrafter> no
#1290 [17:20] <metalmouth02> no i have got a new hp touch screen
#1291 [17:20] <TheTrooble> and it for some reason was running at startup
#1292 [17:20] <sugoi> TheTrooble: ....
#1293 [17:20] <GTWJ1> I just installed the latest version of Catalyst (Catalyst 13.1) and I'm still experiencing this problem.
#1294 [17:20] <sugoi> TheTrooble: i asked you about autostarting services on bot
#1295 [17:20] <sugoi> boot*
#1296 [17:21] <sugoi> ah well, super glad you found it!
#1297 [17:21] <TheTrooble> It wasnt showing up as a startup service
#1298 [17:21] <sugoi> TheTrooble: autoruns
#1299 [17:21] <sugoi> also, why didn't minecraft server complain about the port binding failing
#1300 [17:21] <TheTrooble> it wasnt showing up but i noticed it in my task manager and that was the problem
#1301 [17:22] <RyCrafter> hey i didnt pay with a prepaid card i did with a credit card
#1302 [17:22] <TheTrooble> i have no idea
#1303 [17:22] <sugoi> TheTrooble: do you know about autoruns?
#1304 [17:22] <Extreme> RyCrafter, is your bank charged?
#1305 [17:22] <sugoi> RyCrafter: has the money been taken? soemtimes international transactions are blocked. call your card issuer and give "okay" for it to complete
#1306 [17:22] <GTWJ1> Is there anything else I could do to fix the flickering?
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#1308 [17:23] <RyCrafter> yes it has been charged and i did give okay
#1309 [17:23] <DEEKONDVG> Hey i need help
#1310 [17:23] <sugoi> DEEKONDVG: in irc, just ask, don't ask to ask
#1311 [17:23] <Extreme> RyCrafter, are you sure you didn't buy on a different account?
#1312 [17:23] <RyCrafter> yes
#1313 [17:23] <DEEKONDVG> when i join minecraft sever my minecraft says end of strem HELP!!!
#1314 [17:24] <sugoi> GTWJ1: consider reporting the bug to mojang i suppose. if all is up to date, no mods, no custom textures, and filckering, report it
#1315 [17:24] <Extreme> RyCrafter, did you receive a transaction I'd?
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#1317 [17:24] <metalmouth02> is somebody checking why on the flicker problem?
#1318 [17:24] <Extreme> Deekondvg, wait then reconnect
#1319 [17:24] <Extreme> ugh
#1320 [17:24] <RyCrafter> yes but i dont have it because i didnt recieive the email for it
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#1322 [17:25] <bouncy> hi
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#1324 [17:25] <bouncy> I need help.
#1325 [17:25] <Extreme> yes?
#1326 [17:25] <bouncy> When I generate a new world ,it crashes my client
#1327 [17:25] <Extreme> ?? Ask
#1328 [17:25] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1329 [17:25] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1330 [17:26] <Extreme> bouncy, os, java version
#1331 [17:26] <GTWJ1> Wait, I don't experience this issue on my Intel laptop. Could Minecraft be having issues with AMD drivers on my desktop?
#1332 [17:26] <RyCrafter> ok maybe not i dont know but my card was charged
#1333 [17:26] <Extreme> Ry, contact the bank
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#1335 [17:26] <RyCrafter> ok thanks extreme
#1336 [17:26] <bouncy> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Updating screen events
#1337 [17:26] <Extreme> ?? Pastebin
#1338 [17:26] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1339 [17:27] <bouncy> http://pastebin.com/7csAifhp
#1340 [17:27] <Bob_> Can mindcraft be downloaded to a thumb drive and executed from there or does it need to be loaded on a PC/Laptop?
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#1342 [17:27] <Extreme> Bob_, yes
#1343 [17:28] <Extreme> Bob_, that requires modification however
#1344 [17:28] <metalmouth02> whare are is somebody
#1345 [17:28] <Extreme> bouncy, one sec
#1346 [17:28] <Bob_> Modificationis?
#1347 [17:28] <bouncy> alrighty
#1348 [17:29] <metalmouth02> whare is somebody!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1349 [17:29] <GTWJ1> metalmouth, would by any chance your system use AMD components? If so then it may confirm that the flickering numbers are an issue with Minecraft on AMD drivers.
#1350 [17:29] <Extreme> bouncy, no mod support
#1351 [17:29] <bouncy> ?
#1352 [17:29] <Extreme> bouncy, " Is Modded: Definitely; Client brand changed to 'mcpvp-mod v0.4.0'"
#1353 [17:29] <bouncy> thats why?
#1354 [17:29] <Extreme> bouncy, yes
#1355 [17:30] <bouncy> k thanks
#1356 [17:30] <metalmouth02> no we do not have ame drivers
#1357 [17:30] <metalmouth02> amd
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#1359 [17:30] <Extreme> metalmouth02, what's the problem
#1360 [17:30] <Bob_> Extreme, what type of modifications and are these configuration options?
#1361 [17:30] <metalmouth02> flickering in the game
#1362 [17:31] <Extreme> metalmouth02, windows / mac?
#1363 [17:31] <metalmouth02> i dont have mac
#1364 [17:31] <Extreme> ??> metalmouth02 win/dxdiag/bat
#1365 [17:31] <VoxelHead> metalmouth02: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1366 [17:31] <VoxelHead> metalmo
#1367 [17:32] <Extreme> Bob_; http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/814010-100how-to-play-minecraft-off-your-usb-drive-any-computer-any-minecraft-version/
#1368 [17:32] <GTWJ1> metalman, so your system uses an Intel processor?
#1369 [17:33] <Bob_> Thank you Extreme!!
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#1371 [17:38] <metalmouth02> did you get my paste
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#1374 [17:40] <metalmouth02> yes, intel processor
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#1383 [17:44] <metalmouth02> hello
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#1385 [17:45] <metalmouth02> somebody
#1386 [17:46] <metalmouth02> here
#1387 [17:46] <sugoi> metalmouth02: this is irc
#1388 [17:46] <metalmouth02> ok
#1389 [17:46] <Extreme> ?< irc
#1390 [17:46] <Extreme> ??< irc
#1391 [17:48] <sugoi> metalmouth02: people on irc that help are just volunteers, and aren't dedicated to helping (working) in the channel, but do it when they have a few minutes here or there, and may unexpectedly disappear to deal with their real life
#1392 [17:48] <sugoi> metalmouth02: i, for example, and a software developer, and when my code is compiling, or I'm waiting for a process to complete, will glance at my irc window to see if i can help someone
#1393 [17:49] <sugoi> but also, i may be afk for 30 minutes suddenly (mtgs), or a day, or a month :)
#1394 [17:49] <metalmouth02> what are you saying? That I cannot get this resolved in a reasonable time. OK then give me my money back!
#1395 [17:50] <sugoi> metalmouth02: i'm saying, if you want help on irc, you should just know what to expect. that we are volunteers, from the community, just like you - and that sometimes it may take a few minutes, or many, to get an answer - best to post your info and question, and wait or return later to see if someone responded (if the channel isn't active at that time)
#1396 [17:50] <sugoi> metalmouth02: as for a refund, we aren't mojang (again, we are just volunteers, equal to you)
#1397 [17:51] <metalmouth02> where do i GO to get real customer service?
#1398 [17:51] <sugoi> i, personally, don't know what is wrong with your flicker - but look into improving your graphics driver, using default settings and textures, and making sure you have a clean install (no mods, fresh minecraft install)
#1399 [17:52] <sugoi> metalmouth02: well this channel has pretty great service :)
#1400 [17:52] <metalmouth02> My computer is brand new and was expensive so I don't think it is my system. What is the link to real customer service for this product?
#1401 [17:54] <sugoi> metalmouth02: often times graphics drivers that come certified don't have full opengl support - it can be well worth your time to visit your graphics card manufacturer and get the lastest driver from them directly
#1402 [17:54] <sugoi> to email mojang about account or payment problems, use http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1403 [17:55] <sugoi> i, persoanlly, don't know about where to email about technical problems with the game
#1404 [17:55] <Lutzee> Mojang doesn't currently have the capacity to keep up with technical support issues, and is very greatful for use helping out.
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#1408 [18:07] <Michael> How to solve the sapling bug in SP ?
#1409 [18:08] <Lutzee> Er.. sapling bug? Please elaborate
#1410 [18:09] <Michael> When i place a sapling and it grows it knocks off the sapling and the tree is floating
#1411 [18:09] <Michael> it happens only on naturelgrow
#1412 [18:09] <Lutzee> I'v never seen that happen in vanilla
#1413 [18:09] <Michael> when i use bonemeal no prob
#1414 [18:10] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: he had ftp running on minecraft's default port
#1415 [18:10] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: but i wonder why the log didn't show a binding failure
#1416 [18:11] <Michael> Lutzee i have it on SP and SMP ...
#1417 [18:12] <Lutzee> Michael: Is it modded?
#1418 [18:12] <Michael> optifine and rei's minimap
#1419 [18:12] <Lutzee> Not that they directly affect it, but remove them and see if it helps/
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#1422 [18:14] <Steve[work]> afternoon peeps
#1423 [18:14] <Michael> hopefully xd i have a weird looking tree farm now in sp :p
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#1427 [18:21] <konapest> we get the microsoft.net.launcher box when we hit run it comes up with a box and a big thick green
#1428 [18:22] <konapest> barb that is 3/4 finished and it says donwload done - and it sits there for hours
#1429 [18:24] <konapest> let me know what I should do
#1430 [18:24] <Steve[work]> konapest: have you tried closing it out and re-launching?
#1431 [18:24] <konapest> yes
#1432 [18:24] <Steve[work]> always with the same result?
#1433 [18:24] <konapest> yes
#1434 [18:25] <Extreme> -> konapest amet
#1435 [18:25] <Syer> konapest: (AMET) Advanced Minecraft Error Test is a tool that helps us get an understanding of an error you may have.
#1436 [18:25] <Syer> konapest: (AMET) Please run this file in the directory of where the launcher is stored: http://bit.ly/QSYsou
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#1447 [18:49] <mib_rymqm1> hola
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#1455 [19:03] <NinjaKirby> Antidisestablishmentarianis
#1456 [19:06] <Lutzee> m
#1457 [19:06] <Lutzee> you missed the m
#1458 [19:06] * Lutzee treats NinjaKirby with floccinaucinihilipilification
#1458 [19:07] <NinjaKirby> I intentionally ommit it.
#1459 [19:07] <NinjaKirby> Not sure what I sought from doing so. To test if a response would be served in regards to it, I guess.
#1460 [19:08] <Lutzee> I still got to use floccinaucinihilipilification though
#1461 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> And a las!
#1462 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> Yeah, I have no idea what that is.
#1463 [19:08] <Lutzee> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/floccinaucinihilipilification
#1464 [19:09] <Gone_Ralex> you two are too bored
#1465 [19:09] <Lutzee> Gone_Ralex: no i just like using floccinaucinihilipilification
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#1467 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> I will test my Colleague on that at work tomorrow.
#1468 [19:10] <Gone_Ralex> you two are too bored
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#1471 [19:10] <Steve[work]> lol
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#1473 [19:11] <Hobomancat> hey
#1474 [19:11] <Hobomancat> I just downloaded minecraft and when is asks if i want to update and i say yes it begins then stops
#1475 [19:11] <NinjaKirby> Anthropomorphism, I believe is directly related to Man-Cat hybrids.
#1476 [19:11] <Hobomancat> what?
#1477 [19:12] <Gone_Ralex> Hobomancat, does it show you any errors?
#1478 [19:12] <Hobomancat> what do you mean?
#1479 [19:12] <Hobomancat> like it says it has a problem with library/minecraft......
#1480 [19:12] <Lord_Ralex> Hobomancat, when it stops, does it show you any errors? like show a box?
#1481 [19:12] <Hobomancat> something like that
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#1483 [19:12] <Hobomancat> no
#1484 [19:13] <Lord_Ralex> Can you please copy what it did say?
#1485 [19:13] <Hobomancat> sure
#1486 [19:13] <Ossendar> Does LogBlock support logging item MetaData?
#1487 [19:13] <Hobomancat> its kinda cut off but
#1488 [19:13] <Lord_Ralex> Ossendar, would have to ask in #bukkit
#1489 [19:13] <Lord_Ralex> not sure what logblock's channel is (or if they have one)
#1490 [19:14] <Ossendar> Oh, alright.
#1491 [19:14] <Lord_Ralex> well, #logblock might be for that
#1492 [19:14] <Hobomancat> it says error [4] /users/[my name]/ library/ application support/bin/minecraft
#1493 [19:14] <Hobomancat> thats bassically what it says
#1494 [19:14] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Hobomancat mac/reinst
#1495 [19:14] <VoxelHead> Hobomancat: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1496 [19:14] <VoxelHead> Hobomancat: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1498 [19:16] <Hobomancat> when i go to home
#1499 [19:16] <Hobomancat> there is no folder called library
#1500 [19:16] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Hobomancat mac/.minecraft/lion
#1501 [19:16] <VoxelHead> Hobomancat: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#1502 [19:17] <Hobomancat> i typed it in terminal and hit enter
#1503 [19:17] <Hobomancat> did it work?
#1504 [19:18] <Hobomancat> IT DID
#1505 [19:18] <Hobomancat> OMFG
#1506 [19:18] <Hobomancat> <3
#1507 [19:18] <Lutzee> If nothing else happened yes
#1508 [19:18] <Lutzee> If nothing else happened yes
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#1510 [19:19] <Hobomancat> I think its working
#1511 [19:19] <Hobomancat> wow dude
#1512 [19:19] <Hobomancat> thank you so much
#1513 [19:19] <Hobomancat> your the best
#1514 [19:20] <Hobomancat> ur awsome
#1515 [19:20] <Hobomancat> thanks so much
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#1519 [19:24] <brez> i have the game and my friend is running a server how come when i put in his info it says i cant reach server
#1520 [19:25] <NinjaKirby> inb4 NAT
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#1522 [19:26] <Extreme> brez, LAN?
#1523 [19:26] <brez> sorry lan?
#1524 [19:26] <NinjaKirby> Acronyms everywhere.
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#1526 [19:26] <Extreme> brez, I'll assume not; is your friend on a router?
#1527 [19:27] <konapest> i get the box that says microsoft.net launcher
#1528 [19:27] <Extreme> -> konapest otherversions
#1529 [19:27] <konapest> I hit run and a green bar appears 3/4 finishce
#1530 [19:27] <konapest> and it just hangs
#1531 [19:27] <brez> yes he is
#1532 [19:28] <Extreme> brez, they need to portforward
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#1534 [19:28] <Extreme> konapest, we prefer to support PC
#1535 [19:28] <Extreme> konapest, please go to the forums
#1536 [19:28] <konapest> Ive chec
#1537 [19:28] <konapest> I did
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#1539 [19:29] <brez> he did
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#1541 [19:29] <konapest> firewall is working fine - no avg files
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#1543 [19:29] <brez> he did everything on the video from youtube
#1544 [19:29] <konapest> okay will try that route thanks extreme\
#1545 [19:29] <Extreme> brez, I have not seen the video so I have no idea ;)
#1546 [19:29] <Extreme> brez, I have not seen the video so I have no idea ;)
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#1548 [19:30] <brez> lol sorry port forwarding and port triggering
#1549 [19:31] <Extreme> ??> brez smp/serversetup
#1550 [19:31] <VoxelHead> brez: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#1551 [19:31] <VoxelHead> brez: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
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#1553 [19:31] <Extreme> brez, the portforwarding section's here; http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Port_forwarding
#1554 [19:32] <brez> do i need to do that stuff or just the one setting up the server
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#1556 [19:34] <Extreme> brez, first follow the set up for your OS
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#1558 [19:34] <Extreme> brez, then to let other's join port forward
#1559 [19:34] <brez> k ty
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#1564 [19:39] <Guest31354> ss I need help I have paid for the minecraft and it will not send me an email to choose a name and get started
#1565 [19:39] <scooby3d> I need help on downloading minecraft to a chromebook
#1566 [19:39] <Extreme> Guest31354; is your bank charged?
#1567 [19:39] <Guest31354> yes
#1568 [19:40] <Extreme> scooby3d, does it support / have java?
#1569 [19:40] <Guest31354> yes
#1570 [19:40] <Extreme> Guest31354, please refer to this: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001-cannot-get-mojang-system-emails
#1571 [19:40] <Guest31354> thank you
#1572 [19:41] <Extreme> scooby3d, do you know how to find if your computer has java?
#1573 [19:41] <Lord_Ralex> scooby3d, Extreme http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/920822-minecraft-on-chromebooks
#1574 [19:41] <scooby3d> i dont know how to find anything on this thiing
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#1577 [19:43] <scooby3d> cannot download mminecraft onto chromebook
#1578 [19:43] <Lord_Ralex> scooby3d, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/920822-minecraft-on-chromebooks
#1579 [19:45] <scooby3d> it says this plugin not supported
#1580 [19:46] <Lord_Ralex> scooby3d, read the link i just gave you
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#1582 [19:51] <scooby3d> I dont know what I am supposed to be looking for?
#1583 [19:52] <Lord_Ralex> scooby3d, chromebooks cannot run minecraft unless you root it
#1584 [19:52] <Lord_Ralex> as explained by that link
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#1591 [20:10] <LuDRG> i cant play whit my friend online
#1592 [20:10] <sugoi> LuDRG: same house or different house?
#1593 [20:10] <LuDRG> diferent gouse
#1594 [20:10] <LuDRG> house
#1595 [20:10] <sugoi> LuDRG: can you connect from 2 computers in the same huose?
#1596 [20:10] <sugoi> house*
#1597 [20:10] <sugoi> :) neither of us can spell "house" appaerntly
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#1599 [20:10] <sugoi> apparently*
#1600 [20:10] <sugoi> oof
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#1602 [20:11] <LuDRG> i want to play online
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#1604 [20:11] <Aule> hello
#1605 [20:11] <sugoi> LuDRG: i know, i'm just troubleshooting what is working, and what is not
#1606 [20:11] <sugoi> LuDRG: are you able to join to games inside the same house?
#1607 [20:11] <LuDRG> idk
#1608 [20:11] <LuDRG> i dont try i alredy
#1609 [20:12] <LuDRG> he is pretty far
#1610 [20:12] <sugoi> LuDRG: are you using two computers? one for the server, and one for the client?
#1611 [20:12] <sugoi> or just one?
#1612 [20:12] <LuDRG> yes
#1613 [20:12] <LuDRG> 2 computers
#1614 [20:12] <sugoi> yes one or yes two?
#1615 [20:12] <LuDRG> 2 two
#1616 [20:12] <sugoi> and you can connect client computer to server computer?
#1617 [20:13] <Aule> im with him
#1618 [20:13] <Aule> we only have one computer each
#1619 [20:13] <sugoi> Aule: you're LuDRG friend?
#1620 [20:13] <Aule> yeah
#1621 [20:13] <Aule> we cant play together
#1622 [20:13] <sugoi> LuDRG: so you run on the server on the same computer you play on?
#1623 [20:13] <Aule> yes
#1624 [20:13] <Aule> im running the server
#1625 [20:13] <sugoi> Aule: ok, can you connect to localhost?
#1626 [20:13] <Aule> yes
#1627 [20:14] <sugoi> is LuDRG's error "cannot find host" ?
#1628 [20:14] <LuDRG> no
#1629 [20:14] <LuDRG> is
#1630 [20:14] <LuDRG> failed to conect to server
#1631 [20:15] <Aule> i thought that he could join my server by only writting mi ip adress on direct connect
#1632 [20:15] <Aule> shouldnt that be enough?
#1633 [20:15] <sugoi> use multiplayer and add server
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#1635 [20:15] <sugoi> LuDRG: ^
#1636 [20:15] <LuDRG> ???
#1637 [20:15] <Aule> then what?
#1638 [20:16] <sugoi> then join
#1639 [20:16] <LuDRG> we try
#1640 [20:16] <LuDRG> but i cant
#1641 [20:16] <Aule> no
#1642 [20:16] <LuDRG> whne i put hte ip
#1643 [20:16] <sugoi> i thought you used direct connect
#1644 [20:16] <Aule> yeah
#1645 [20:16] <Aule> we used direct connect
#1646 [20:16] <sugoi> use multiplayer then add server
#1647 [20:16] <Aule> but what do we write there
#1648 [20:16] <Aule> on server name and adress stuff
#1649 [20:16] <sugoi> server name is whatever you want to call it
#1650 [20:17] <sugoi> the address is for the ip[:port]
#1651 [20:17] <sugoi> where [:port] is optional
#1652 [20:17] <sugoi> so, just ip :)
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#1655 [20:18] <LuDRG> i catn
#1656 [20:18] <LuDRG> cant
#1657 [20:18] <sugoi> join fails?
#1658 [20:19] <LuDRG> yea
#1659 [20:19] <sugoi> error msg "can't connect" ?
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#1661 [20:19] <Lord_Ralex> Have you port-forwarded (whoever is the host)
#1662 [20:19] <sugoi> Aule: did you give him the ip you see when you visit ipchicken.com ?
#1663 [20:20] * sugoi decided to check port forwarding last...for some reason
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#1664 [20:20] <LuDRG> cant reach the server
#1665 [20:20] <LuDRG> im try to create the server
#1666 [20:21] <sugoi> LuDRG: wait
#1667 [20:21] <sugoi> Aule: did you give LuDRG the ip you get when you visit ipchicken.com ?
#1668 [20:21] <LuDRG> aule told me that he give me the same ip
#1669 [20:21] <sugoi> LuDRG: same as he sees in ipchicken.com?
#1670 [20:21] <LuDRG> yes
#1671 [20:21] <sugoi> Aule: ok, have you port forwarded?
#1672 [20:22] <LuDRG> he said no
#1673 [20:22] <sugoi> that is why
#1674 [20:22] <LuDRG> how we do that?
#1675 [20:23] <sugoi> Aule: you need to log into your router, and set a rule for port 25565 to go to your server computer
#1676 [20:23] <Aule> ok
#1677 [20:25] <LuDRG> wait a sec
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#1682 [20:27] <sugoi> here is a reasonable guide: http://www.wikihow.com/Set-Up-Port-Forwarding-on-a-Router
#1683 [20:27] <ispiderman20> When I try to open up minecraft, I get a completely black screen and then my computer freezes...
#1684 [20:29] <ispiderman20> I'm wondering if there is something wrong with the game. It was working perfectly for me up until this past Saturday.
#1685 [20:30] <sugoi> ispiderman20: what happened last saturday?
#1686 [20:31] <ispiderman20> My son was trying to change his texture pack and suddenly the screen went blank and now we can't get into the game at all - not from the computer and not from the website.
#1687 [20:31] <sugoi> ispiderman20: does it happen after login? or before you can login?
#1688 [20:32] <ispiderman20> We can login -- it goes through the motions up until the "mojang" logo screen, and then it goes black. Nothing. And the screen freezes. I have to hit ctrl/alt/delete get out of it.
#1689 [20:32] <Extreme> -> ispiderman20 amet
#1690 [20:32] <Syer> ispiderman20: (AMET) Advanced Minecraft Error Test is a tool that helps us get an understanding of an error you may have.
#1691 [20:32] <Syer> ispiderman20: (AMET) Please run this file in the directory of where the launcher is stored: http://bit.ly/QSYsou
#1692 [20:33] <sugoi> ispiderman20: ok, let's do a forced update then ... OOOOrrr that
#1693 [20:33] <ispiderman20> O
#1694 [20:33] <Extreme> oh, thought someone said to forceupdate already, sorry :P
#1695 [20:33] <sugoi> ispiderman20: ok, let's do a forced update
#1696 [20:33] <ispiderman20> We did try to do a forced update -- I could try again.
#1697 [20:34] <sugoi> ??> ispiderman20 forceupdate
#1698 [20:34] <VoxelHead> ispiderman20: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1699 [20:34] <VoxelHead> ispiderman20: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1700 [20:34] <sugoi> ispiderman20: after you do a forceupdate, do not remod or change textures, just see if you can start the game
#1701 [20:34] <ispiderman20> Will do. Am attempting now...
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#1703 [20:36] <ispiderman20> And fail -- had to go to task manager to unfreeze it - again.
#1704 [20:36] <Person_> Hello
#1705 [20:36] <Extreme> ispiderman20, use the link I gave above
#1706 [20:36] <Extreme> Person_, ask please :)
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#1708 [20:38] <ispiderman20> Extreme -- am doing so now.
#1709 [20:38] <Minecrafter> Dinnerbone I theres a issue with your texture pack updater.
#1710 [20:38] <Extreme> Minecrafter, um
#1711 [20:38] <Extreme> Minecrafter, may I ask what happens?
#1712 [20:39] <sugoi> Extreme: btw, really don't like that download site
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#1714 [20:39] <Minecrafter> The baked potato and the patato textures get swapped on the update.
#1715 [20:39] <Person_> Hello Extreme :) Thanks I bet you get these questions alot on here but any good at modding?
#1716 [20:39] <Extreme> I know, I changed it but someone put it back >_>
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#1718 [20:39] <Person_> Hello Extreme :) Thanks I bet you get these questions alot on here but any good at modding?
#1719 [20:39] <sugoi> Extreme: it just reeks questionable, crappy, adware laden softare
#1720 [20:39] <sugoi> even tho it is only a bat
#1721 [20:40] <Extreme> i'll see
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#1723 [20:40] <Minecrafter> Really small bug but I think it should get fixed.
#1724 [20:40] <Person_> Extreme?
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#1726 [20:41] <Extreme> yes?
#1727 [20:41] <ispiderman20> sugoi -- having trouble finding the appropriate download from that site. What would you suggest? I only get past the logo screen and the whole thing just stops. I've updated Java, removed old java programs.
#1728 [20:41] <Person_> I bet you get these questions alot on here but any good at modding?
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#1730 [20:42] <Person_> ?
#1731 [20:42] <Lord_Ralex> Person_, mods are not supported here
#1732 [20:42] <ispiderman20> I've updated my video card, in case that was the problem. The craziest thing is that it was working just fine, even with the texture pack mods, until that one moment. My son has no idea if he accidentally hit something that caused it because we can't even get into the game anymore.
#1733 [20:42] <bloodywhat> my card has been disabled, how do i fix
#1734 [20:43] <Extreme> ispiderman20, did you download the bat?
#1735 [20:43] <Person_> Thanks Lord_Ralex :)
#1736 [20:43] <ispiderman20> working on it...
#1737 [20:43] <Minecrafter> Dinnerbone you reading the IRC?
#1738 [20:43] <Extreme> Minecrafter, no
#1739 [20:44] <Extreme> Minecrafter, please donot ping people for that
#1740 [20:44] <sugoi> ispiderman20: just click this link: http://www.mesiapk.com/downloads/advancedMinecraftErrorTest.bat?d
#1741 [20:44] <sugoi> Extreme: ?
#1742 [20:44] <sugoi> bloodywhat: contact card issuer
#1743 [20:44] <Minecrafter> I just would like to let him know about the Bug in the texture pack updater
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#1745 [20:45] <sugoi> Minecrafter: this isn't the forum for that
#1746 [20:45] <waterbally> test
#1747 [20:45] <bloodywhat> thanks
#1748 [20:45] <waterbally> how do i fix bad video driver?
#1749 [20:45] <Extreme> ??> waterbally win/dxdiag/bat
#1750 [20:45] <Person_> Bye
#1751 [20:45] <VoxelHead> waterbally: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1752 [20:45] <VoxelHead> waterbally: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1753 [20:45] <ispiderman20> Ok, I clicked the link, clicked on the .bat and hit run. I don't see anything happening, tho'....
#1754 [20:45] <sugoi> Minecrafter: https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC
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#1756 [20:46] <waterbally> ok
#1757 [20:46] <Extreme> ispiderman20, a command prompt window should open
#1758 [20:46] <sugoi> bloodywhat: please don't pm
#1759 [20:46] <sugoi> bloodywhat: sometimes purchases are declined because it is an international purchase, contact your card issuer and find out what is going on
#1760 [20:47] <bloodywhat> thanks much, sorry
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#1762 [20:47] <sugoi> no worries :)
#1763 [20:47] <sugoi> ispiderman20: tho'.... what?
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#1765 [20:47] <sugoi> crap, i gotta run, have fun everyone
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#1767 [20:48] <ispiderman20> Nothing is happening. Did I do something wrong. I'm feeling rather computer illiterate at the moment.
#1768 [20:48] <waterbally> do i copy and paste it as a URL, VoxelHead ?
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#1770 [20:48] <Extreme> ispiderman20, what are you opening it with?
#1771 [20:48] <waterbally> IS VoxelHead STILL ON?
#1772 [20:49] <Extreme> waterbally, what link are you refering to?
#1773 [20:49] <waterbally> win/dxdiag/bat
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#1775 [20:49] <Extreme> waterbally, oh; yes
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#1777 [20:49] <waterbally> somne sent it to me saying it will fix my vid driver
#1778 [20:50] <Extreme> waterbally, download and run this http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1779 [20:50] <waterbally> thx
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#1781 [20:50] <ispiderman20> I can't even find where it's downloaded -- I hit run when the prompt box came up -- should I have done something different?
#1782 [20:51] <Extreme> ispiderman20, save it to where your launcher is
#1783 [20:51] <waterbally> it opened up a cmd
#1784 [20:51] <Extreme> waterbally, yes it should
#1785 [20:51] <waterbally> now a notepad
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#1787 [20:51] <Extreme> waterbally: After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
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#1789 [20:53] <waterbally> http://pastebin.com/QhyQFim4
#1790 [20:53] <waterbally> there
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#1792 [20:55] <waterbally> HeRrRrOoOoOwWw
#1793 [20:56] <Extreme> ispiderman20, http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect/graphics and check for driver updates
#1794 [20:56] <Lord_Ralex> waterbally, that computer will not really run MC, and if it can, not well at all
#1795 [20:56] <waterbally> :(
#1796 [20:57] <waterbally> so my comp. is poop?
#1797 [20:57] <Lord_Ralex> Yeah, it is not really going to run mc, and if it can, it will be unenjoyable
#1798 [20:58] <Extreme> it should work, tho the specs are horrible
#1799 [20:58] <waterbally> alrighty, thank you
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#1803 [21:01] <ispiderman20> Now I can't find where it downloaded on my computer, if it did, and I can't get it to redownload so that I can save it into the folder, which I just found.
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#1805 [21:03] <ispiderman20_> Ok, Extreme, I located it and saved it where my launcher is located.
#1806 [21:03] <ispiderman20_> Do I open it to run it?
#1807 [21:03] <Extreme> ispiderman20_, yes
#1808 [21:04] <Extreme> make sure it opens with cmd
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#1811 [21:05] <ispiderman20_> Ok, I'm back. Came up with an error in my java?
#1812 [21:05] <Extreme> ispiderman20_, where does it say that?
#1813 [21:06] <ispiderman20_> [spoiler][code]
#1814 [21:06] <Extreme> ispiderman20_, can you right click the cmd window press "Select All", then hit enter
#1815 [21:06] <Extreme> then put it to pastebin
#1816 [21:06] <Extreme> ? pastebin
#1817 [21:06] <Extreme> ?? pastebin
#1818 [21:06] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1822 [21:11] <ispiderman20_> http://pastebin.com/gR7t8kwX]
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#1824 [21:14] <Extreme> ispiderman20_, open cmd and type in "java -version"
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#1826 [21:14] <ispiderman20_> how to open cmd? thnx
#1827 [21:15] <Extreme> ispiderman20_; press start search cmd
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#1830 [21:16] <ispiderman20_> It's not recognizing that command.
#1831 [21:16] * GreyVulpine points Extreme at ispiderman20_'s original problem
#1831 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> <ispiderman20> My son was trying to change his texture pack and suddenly the screen went blank and now we can't get into the game at all - not from the computer and not from the website.
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#1834 [21:17] <Extreme> still seems as an issue with java
#1835 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Try clearing ispiderman20_'s bin/resources/texturepacks first.
#1836 [21:18] <Extreme> ispiderman20_, press windows + r
#1837 [21:18] <ispiderman20_> should I just remove all the texture packs?
#1838 [21:18] <Extreme> ispiderman20_, yes
#1839 [21:19] <Extreme> ispiderman20_, press Windows + R
#1840 [21:19] <ispiderman20_> I did
#1841 [21:19] <Extreme> enter in "%AppData%\.minecraft\"
#1842 [21:19] <ispiderman20_> ok
#1843 [21:20] <Extreme> look for the texturepacks folder
#1844 [21:20] <Extreme> open it up and delete everything inside
#1845 [21:20] <ispiderman20_> ok - I have texturepacks and texturepacks-mp-cache
#1846 [21:21] <Extreme> texturepacks
#1847 [21:21] <ispiderman20_> Done. Everything deleted.
#1848 [21:21] <Extreme> run minecraft now
#1849 [21:22] <Small> hello? I have tried installing minecraft, attempt to start the .exe file, but it will not work. The error that pops up is this, "The registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime is corrupted. The system cannot find the path specified" I know another user is being dealt to, I can wait. I have 38 minutes
#1850 [21:22] <Small> Sorry nto be a bother
#1851 [21:22] <Extreme> small; go here & attempt to install java; http://java.com/inc/BrowserRedirect1.jsp?locale=en
#1852 [21:23] <Small> ok
#1853 [21:23] <cestislife> First uninstall the older versions though.
#1854 [21:23] <cestislife> If you have older versions that is
#1855 [21:23] <ispiderman20_> Extreme, same thing with the start up -- gets past the mojang logo screen, goes black, freezes up. sigh
#1856 [21:24] <Extreme> ispiderman20_, samething for you; go here & attempt to install java; http://java.com/inc/BrowserRedirect1.jsp?locale=en
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#1858 [21:24] <Small> installing atm, should be done soon
#1859 [21:25] <Small> it is done
#1860 [21:25] <cestislife> Attempt to run the game now.
#1861 [21:25] <Small> ok
#1862 [21:26] <Small> no dice. same error occurred
#1863 [21:27] <cestislife> Small: Did you uninstall all versions of Java that is on your machine before?
#1864 [21:27] <Small> I have done so.
#1865 [21:28] <Small> what now?
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#1868 [21:29] <ispiderman20> Extreme -- I've reinstalled Java. It's version 7 Update 17.
#1869 [21:29] <Extreme> ispiderman20, run the game now
#1870 [21:30] <ispiderman20> Trying again...
#1871 [21:30] <Small> is anyone here?
#1872 [21:30] <Extreme> yes?
#1873 [21:31] <Wug> I'd help but I have to write a paper in the next 2 hours
#1874 [21:31] <Small> umm, I reinstalled java as told, but my error posted earlier has still appeared none the less
#1875 [21:32] <ispiderman20> It now opens up to a big white screen with nothing on it.
#1876 [21:32] <Wug> Small: how long can you wait
#1877 [21:32] <flameofarnor> i installed minecraft for pc today and i also downloaded modloader, modloader mp, and forge and now it has crashed. can you
#1878 [21:32] <Extreme> Small, open cmd type "java -version"
#1879 [21:32] <Small> I have 28 minutes
#1880 [21:32] <Extreme> ??> flameofarnor mods
#1881 [21:32] <Wug> Small: can you come back sometime later?
#1882 [21:32] <VoxelHead> flameofarnor: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1883 [21:32] <VoxelHead> flameofarnor: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1884 [21:33] <Small> ill swarch for it extreme, and yes, but not today wug
#1885 [21:33] <Wug> ??> teamviewer small
#1886 [21:33] <Wug> derp
#1887 [21:33] <Wug> ??> small teamviewer
#1888 [21:33] <VoxelHead> small: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is a remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1889 [21:34] <VoxelHead> small: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1890 [21:34] <Small> search
#1891 [21:34] <ispiderman20> I'm seriously considering uninstalling the game and reinstalling, but I don't want to lose all the work my kids have done over the last 6 months. :(
#1892 [21:34] <Extreme> ispiderman20, redo the java -version
#1893 [21:34] <Wug> Small: download and run teamviewer, then send me your teamviewer id and pass with /msg wug id: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1894 [21:35] <Small> ok, one sec
#1895 [21:36] <ispiderman20> Sorry, but do I type in java -version? B/c when I do, I'm getting a msg saying java is not recognized as an external or internal code. Do I need another command prompt before it?
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#1898 [21:37] <dain98> Hello?
#1899 [21:37] <Wug> ispiderman20: that usually means that java did not install completely
#1900 [21:37] <dain98> Can anybody help me?
#1901 [21:37] <Wug> ??> dain98 ask
#1902 [21:37] <VoxelHead> dain98: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1903 [21:37] <VoxelHead> dain98: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1904 [21:37] <ispiderman20> Great. Any suggestions?
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#1906 [21:38] <dain98> Well my Minecraft account got hacked and got migrated to another Mojang account. Is there any way I can get it back?
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#1908 [21:38] <Extreme> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1909 [21:38] <dain98> This hacker seemed to have hacked my server, mc account, and my email multiple times.
#1910 [21:38] <dain98> Thank you :)
#1911 [21:39] <ispiderman20> Should I completely uninstall Java and try reinstalling?
#1912 [21:40] <Lord_Ralex> ??> ispiderman20 win/dxdiag/bat
#1913 [21:40] <VoxelHead> ispiderman20: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1914 [21:40] <VoxelHead> ispiderman20: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1915 [21:40] <Lord_Ralex> Please do that for us
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#1917 [21:41] <ispiderman20> Ok, thanks. Going there now.
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#1919 [21:42] <CollectorMaster> I need help
#1920 [21:42] <CollectorMaster> Hello?
#1921 [21:43] <ispiderman20> VoxelHead - here is the link. http://pastebin.com/HkBS48mQ
#1922 [21:44] <CollectorMaster> Help please. It's important!
#1923 [21:44] <Lord_Ralex> ispiderman20, you need to pastebin the file it made
#1924 [21:44] <Lord_Ralex> it is on your desktop called dxdiag.txt
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#1928 [21:47] <Kylan> hey, i started a server but i keep gettting this warning [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#1929 [21:47] <Kylan> how do i fix that?
#1930 [21:47] <Lord_Ralex> Kylan, how often does it show up
#1931 [21:47] <Lord_Ralex> like spammy or just once every few minutes?
#1932 [21:47] <Kylan> it varries but pretty frequently about half way between that
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#1936 [21:48] <Lord_Ralex> That means the server is talking longer than it should on actually running the server, usually due to a slow cpu or it is doing a ton at once
#1937 [21:48] <Lord_Ralex> if it happens occasionally it is fine, but if it is spammy or frequent then it is a concern
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#1939 [21:49] <Kade|epiclink150294> Hello
#1940 [21:49] <Kylan> ahh ok
#1941 [21:49] <Kade|epiclink150294> Am I allowed to ask about how to increase my framerate
#1942 [21:49] <Kylan> so to fix it or make it better would you jsut cut down on the other processes on the computer?
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#1944 [21:49] <Kade|epiclink150294> Or is this only for majour errors >.<
#1945 [21:49] <cestislife> Kade|epiclink150294: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-
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#1947 [21:50] <cestislife> Follow the tips in that topic.
#1948 [21:50] <Kade|epiclink150294> I did :P
#1949 [21:50] <Lord_Ralex> Kylan, just try to limit what all happens on the server and don't try example detonating tons of tnt ;)
#1950 [21:50] <Kade|epiclink150294> I did try optifine but it increased my framrate by about 10
#1951 [21:50] <Lord_Ralex> It is new it can do it more often because it is generating chunks
#1952 [21:50] <Kylan> well it happens when no one is on the server O_O
#1953 [21:50] <cestislife> Then there's nothing much we can do for you. Minecraft is a very resource intensive game.
#1954 [21:51] <Kade|epiclink150294> Ok >.< sorry for asking.
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#1956 [21:51] <Kade|epiclink150294> Thanks anyways I will try the staretegeys again.
#1957 [21:51] <ispiderman20> Lord_Ralex: http://pastebin.com/cvBRmRQc
#1958 [21:52] <ispiderman20> Apologies all around -- I'm extremely new to this.
#1959 [21:53] <Lord_Ralex> ispiderman20, just a heads up, intel gpus that don't have the hd prefix usually don't run minecraft well, but we can probably get it to run
#1960 [21:53] <cestislife> Is that a 32-bit Vista?
#1961 [21:53] <Lord_Ralex> One sec while i get the driver you need
#1962 [21:53] <Lord_Ralex> cestislife, it would be
#1963 [21:53] <cestislife> https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=17407&lang=eng
#1964 [21:53] <cestislife> This then.
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#1967 [21:54] <Lord_Ralex> ispiderman20, download and run that program please that cestislife linked
#1968 [21:54] <cestislife> Just a heads up as well, you have 6GB of RAM, but only ~4GB of it is being utilized.
#1969 [21:54] <jth> back again, was not able to download and get mc to work on mac or get online ver to function, any help?
#1970 [21:55] <cestislife> jth: Care to elaborate more?
#1971 [21:57] <jth> after purchasing and downloading, mc will stop responding before loading, previous help chat recommended running online ver, when loading all I get is a white screen in dialog box
#1972 [21:57] <ispiderman20> Lord_Ralex -- it had been running just fine up until this past weekend. Would you recommend getting a new videocard? We had a really good one in, but it crashed and we've been running off a different one that was already installed.
#1973 [21:57] <Lord_Ralex> ispiderman20, getting a new one would be a good idea
#1974 [21:58] <cestislife> jth: If you are on a Mac, then you cannot play in the browser. Apple has disabled the web applet.
#1975 [21:58] <Lord_Ralex> it would be worth it in the long run
#1976 [21:58] <Lord_Ralex> ispiderman20, reason why mc is not working is because the one it is using now does not have everything it needs to run the game, but the update that cestislife linked will/should fix that so it can play mc
#1977 [21:58] <ispiderman20> Recommendations on one that is good but not expensive?
#1978 [21:59] <cestislife> Anything other than Intel's integrated cards really.
#1979 [21:59] <jth> any suggestions on getting the download ver to work, was son's bday present and he is so looking forward to playing.
#1980 [21:59] <Kade|epiclink150294> Also, I have noticed one error with my Intel it is to old and I have trouble installing a new verision it crashes (restarts my laptop) once I try to install it just BOOM crashes it says it has an error (This is for OpenGL options) and should I copy/paste the crash report to you or not I am using a WIndows Vista Chipset Family Intel (R) that's fairly old.
#1981 [21:59] <Kade|epiclink150294> *Mobile Intel (R)
#1982 [22:00] <Lord_Ralex> Kade|epiclink150294, that just sounds like the card is too old
#1983 [22:00] <ispiderman20> Getting an error that my computer doesn't meet minimum requirements to install. :(
#1984 [22:00] <cestislife> What actually happens, or what is the error that it gives you when you attempt to download it, jth?
#1985 [22:00] <cestislife> Also are you trying to download the launcher, or the game itself?
#1986 [22:00] <Kade|epiclink150294> & yes I do have battery problems with my laptop I always have to plug it in >.<
#1987 [22:00] <Kade|epiclink150294> I did dowload Magic Luancher & Minecraft
#1988 [22:01] <Kade|epiclink150294> and I have a 2 GB ram.
#1989 [22:01] <Kade|epiclink150294> :(
#1990 [22:01] <Kade|epiclink150294> :(
#1991 [22:01] <jth> from the website i dl the game, no prob with dl, but will not load. is there a seperate launcher?
#1992 [22:02] <Kade|epiclink150294> I have read the reccmendations and it's 4 GB ram
#1993 [22:03] <Kade|epiclink150294> Please I have to get going in about 2 mins.
#1994 [22:03] <Kade|epiclink150294> <cestislife> Is that a 32-bit Vista?" Yes
#1995 [22:03] <cestislife> Was not directed at you.
#1996 [22:04] <Kade|epiclink150294> ?
#1997 [22:04] <cestislife> jth: "Will not load" is very vague, did any error appear for you?
#1998 [22:04] <cestislife> ?? irc/multitasking
#1999 [22:04] <VoxelHead> irc/multitasking: In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#2000 [22:04] <ispiderman20> cestislife - I really don't know if it is a 32-bit Vista. I thought it was a 64-bit. Any way to find out?
#2001 [22:05] <cestislife> ispiderman20: Go to My Computer, right click on any of the white space, click on Properties.
#2002 [22:05] <cestislife> Under System, there should be System Type, it should say there.
#2003 [22:06] <Kade|epiclink150294> Can anyone help me?
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#2006 [22:06] <ispiderman20> Says it's a 64-bit operating system.
#2007 [22:06] <Kade|epiclink150294> >.<
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#2009 [22:07] <Lord_Ralex> (i hate the dxdiag then and it does explain the java issues as well)
#2010 [22:07] <CollectorMaster> Hello?
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#2012 [22:07] <cestislife> Ah that explains it
#2013 [22:07] <cestislife> Hold on
#2014 [22:07] <konapest> can someone help me on a minecraft issue
#2015 [22:07] <Lord_Ralex> ispiderman20, you will need to install 2 things then, cest is getting you the driver
#2016 [22:07] <Ryladine> ??> konapest ask
#2017 [22:07] <VoxelHead> konapest: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2018 [22:07] <VoxelHead> konapest: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2019 [22:07] <cestislife> ispiderman20: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=17409&lang=eng
#2020 [22:07] <ispiderman20> I cannot thank you guys enough for helping me with this.
#2021 [22:07] <cestislife> This is the driver you need.
#2022 [22:07] <Kade|epiclink150294> Could I maybe help tom to see what's his error I know a bit about coding
#2023 [22:08] <cestislife> You may also need the 64-bit version of Java - http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp - ispiderman20
#2024 [22:08] <jth> while loading on mac, no sceens come up when lauched, after some time i check the process and it says program has stopped responding, is there a seperate launcher needed
#2025 [22:08] <cestislife> jth: No there isn't. And I am at lost with your issue, someone else will have to take a look.
#2026 [22:08] <Kade|epiclink150294> Could I maybe help tom to see what's his error I know a bit about coding*
#2027 [22:09] <Kade|epiclink150294> Blah
#2028 [22:09] <cestislife> Minecraft's errors have nothing to do with coding.
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#2030 [22:09] <konapest> \i signed into minecraft and I got a box that says run (net.minecraft launcher) then it just hung. its not a firewall problem - im on java 7 help please
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#2032 [22:10] <jth> exit
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#2034 [22:12] <konapest> is soemone looking into my question ?
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#2036 [22:15] <konapest> ?
#2037 [22:16] <Wug> ??> konapest win/cleartype
#2038 [22:16] <VoxelHead> konapest: (win/cleartype) Open the control panel. Choose Appearance and Personalization. At the very bottom, choose ClearType Tuner. If a personalization wizard appears, complete it.
#2039 [22:16] <VoxelHead> konapest: (win/cleartype) Once in the cleartype settings, make sure there are no settings that have crazy values. If you see one, adjust it and it should fix itself. Press OK to close the settings windows. Try running minecraft again.
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#2043 [22:19] <ispiderman20> Got the Intel to install properly this time and am now waiting for the Java to reinstall
#2044 [22:19] <konapest> I open up control panel and choose appearance and personalization - do not have clear type tuner is it under the personalization menu ?
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#2047 [22:21] <ispiderman20> Lord_Valex and cestislife -- I must thank you from the bottom of my heart for helping me out. The game is back up and running and I have two extremely happy children!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!
#2048 [22:22] * cestislife sits on VoxelHead. No VoxelHead no.
#2048 [22:22] <cestislife> ispiderman20: Pleasure :)
#2049 [22:22] <Lord_Ralex> that's why we are here ;)
#2050 [22:23] <ispiderman20> You guys soooo rock! :)) :)) :))
#2051 [22:23] <ispiderman20> Have a good night everyone!
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#2054 [22:29] <konapest> ?
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#2058 [22:46] <Chrommis> I am literally stuck in Minecraft. Single Player mode and I am stuck in place in all of my saved worlds. I cant interact with anything or use anything. I can click something and the command slot comes up but that is it
#2059 [22:47] <Lord_Ralex> Chrommis, are you bobbing?
#2060 [22:47] <Chrommis> I think my 10 year old did something by accident. I have deleted and re downloaded, but to no avail
#2061 [22:47] <Chrommis> Bobbing?
#2062 [22:47] <Lord_Ralex> like is it bouncing?
#2063 [22:48] <Chrommis> No but the item icon in the first slot is flickering
#2064 [22:50] <Chrommis> Is there a way to reset everything back to like new? I can always rebuild what I want
#2065 [22:51] <clarjon1> Chrommis: On the launcher, where you log in, click Options, then click "Force Download", then log in.
#2066 [22:51] <Chrommis> Thanks I will give that a try
#2067 [22:52] <clarjon1> Chrommis: That will download a fresh copy of the actual game files :)
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#2069 [22:55] <CollectorMaster> I found out how to add mods on my own. I know you have to go to your app data, go to the minecraft folder, then the bin folder, then the minecraft thing. The problem is, my computer won't let me open the minecraft file in the bin folder. It says it's a java file and I can't open it. I can't copy the mod stuff into the minecraft file and delete that mp something file. If I put the mod stuff in the bin folder, will minec
#2070 [22:56] <Ryladine> ??> CollectorMaster mods
#2071 [22:56] <VoxelHead> CollectorMaster: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2072 [22:56] <VoxelHead> CollectorMaster: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2073 [22:57] <CollectorMaster> Ok
#2074 [22:59] <Chrommis> Still stuck unfortunately
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#2076 [23:03] <Bugboy1028> Wait.
#2077 [23:03] <Bugboy1028> DAmn it
#2078 [23:03] <Bugboy1028> Ryladine, I am willing to help Collector with mods
#2079 [23:04] <Bugboy1028> even if channel is againist it
#2080 [23:04] <Bugboy1028> I' just remind them it's not for mods and show them way how to do it correctly
#2081 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Not really against it. Just don't want to force helpers to learn how to install every mod out there.
#2082 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> If anybody wants to help, feel free. If not, that's why that FAQ is there
#2083 [23:05] <Syf> mods these days have gotten so complicated :
#2084 [23:05] <Syf> :/*
#2085 [23:05] <Bugboy1028> Thnts why I uses Mod Packs Now
#2086 [23:05] <Bugboy1028> Easy to use and easy to uninstall
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#2101 [23:38] <Kevin> I am having problem with logging into mojang
#2102 [23:39] <Kevin> I just registered and when I log in, it says unknown Username or password and I know that the username is my e-mail address and I know what my password is.
#2103 [23:41] <Kevin> HHHHHEEEELLLOOOOO??????????
#2104 [23:41] <Kevin> Can you help me?
#2105 [23:42] <Kevin> UUUUUHHHHHHH
#2106 [23:42] <Kevin> UUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH
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