#1 [00:00] <Jshmddx> The AVG I have is a paid version
#2 [00:01] <Jshmddx> Should I still uninstall AVG?
#3 [00:01] <xales> Yeah
#4 [00:01] <xales> and stop paying for it
#5 [00:01] <xales> and never pay for an antivirus program ever again
#6 [00:01] <xales> it's a waste of money
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#8 [00:02] <Filmguy> Anyone there?
#9 [00:02] <xales> Indeed.
#10 [00:02] <Jshmddx> Then what antivirus program would you suggest?
#11 [00:02] <Ryladine> Nope, no one here but us bots.
#12 [00:02] <Cial> MSE is more than sufficient for anything you'll need and it's free
#13 [00:02] <Jshmddx> Ok
#14 [00:02] <Ryladine> Filmguy, was there something you needed?
#15 [00:03] <Cial> Microsoft Security Essentials btw
#16 [00:03] <Jshmddx> I know
#17 [00:03] <Filmguy> I can't log into my Mojang Account or Minecraft.net account, even after a password reset, any help would be appriciated.
#18 [00:03] <Filmguy> appreciated***
#19 [00:03] <xales> Filmguy: Which do you have - a Mojang account, or a minecraft.net account?
#20 [00:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Does anyone here happen to know the channel for Industrialcraft? XD
#21 [00:04] <Filmguy> Well, Mojang.... I am somewhat confused about how the account system works...
#22 [00:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Filmguy: We aren't actually mojang, but what are you confused about?
#23 [00:04] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: that's not what they mean
#24 [00:05] <xales> Filmguy: When did you buy Minecraft?
#25 [00:05] <CrusaderDeleters> xales: I see now.
#26 [00:06] <Filmguy> It was gifted to me by a buddy in November, I was able to play for a while and then all of a sudden I was unable to log into anything.
#27 [00:06] <xales> In the past, when you logged in, did you do so with an email address, or with a username?
#28 [00:06] <Filmguy> I tried resetting my password via Mojang, It sent me a conformation email, i changed it, and I am still unable to login.
#29 [00:06] <Filmguy> I used an email address in the past.
#30 [00:06] <Jshmddx> Ok restarting
#31 [00:06] <xales> Is that what you're trying to use now?
#32 [00:06] <Filmguy> Yes
#33 [00:07] <xales> Okay.
#34 [00:07] <xales> Are you able to log in at https://account.mojang.com/me ?
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#36 [00:07] <Filmguy> I will check, thanks!
#37 [00:08] <Filmguy> It gives me an error saying that it is an unknown email address or password, I have reset the password 3 times now.
#38 [00:08] <Jshmddx> Xales when I restarted my computer it wanted to check the disks for consistency could that be a problem?
#39 [00:09] <xales> Jshmddx: possibly, I don't know
#40 [00:09] <Jshmddx> I'm letting it run right now
#41 [00:09] <xales> just let it check
#42 [00:09] <Jshmddx> I am
#43 [00:10] <Jshmddx> And By the way I did take off AVG
#44 [00:11] <Jshmddx> I'll see if minecraft will run once I log in
#45 [00:15] <Jshmddx> If this doesn't do anything is there a program that could repair my computer?
#46 [00:15] <Filmguy> I was able to successfully change my password and log into Mojang, not sure why it took 4 tries though. Unfortunately I still can't log into Minecraft with my Mojang Information.
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#48 [00:16] <carsonjl1999> how come I can only log into minecraft with my account and no one elses even though it is on the same computer
#49 [00:17] <Cial> I'm sorry.. what
#50 [00:17] <xales> Jshmddx: As I've already said, you'd have to take the computer to an IT professional/computer repair person.
#51 [00:17] <carsonjl1999> I can only connect to the internet on one account the others will not login
#52 [00:17] <carsonjl1999> says login failed
#53 [00:17] <xales> carsonjl1999: The username/password for the account is wrong, then.
#54 [00:18] <xales> Filmguy: Okay
#55 [00:18] <carsonjl1999> no I just created it so how can it be wrong
#56 [00:18] <xales> carsonjl1999: You have to buy Minecraft on the account, then
#57 [00:18] <carsonjl1999> when I go into my games it shows it there on the account that it won't log into
#58 [00:18] <xales> Filmguy: Go to https://account.mojang.com/me and log in if you aren't already. There should be a "My Games" heading. Under it should list Minecraft with a Profile Name and the date you purchased it.
#59 [00:18] <carsonjl1999> I have bought it and downloaded it onto the computer
#60 [00:18] <xales> Filmguy: If it does not list it, let me know.
#61 [00:19] <xales> carsonjl1999: In order to use an account online, it has to be purchased for that account.
#62 [00:19] <Filmguy> Thank you, I am trying this now.
#63 [00:19] <carsonjl1999> so even though I have it downloaded onto the computer not more than one account can be associated with it
#64 [00:19] <carsonjl1999> am I understanding that correctly then
#65 [00:19] <xales> carsonjl1999: No, you're not.
#66 [00:20] <xales> carsonjl1999: In order to play Minecraft online, you need an account.
#67 [00:20] <xales> The account has to have Minecraft purchased *for it*
#68 [00:20] <Filmguy> It displays Minecraft, but with no date of purchase. When I click on it, I am directed to Minecrafts website, which I am logged in to with my Mojang account information.
#69 [00:20] <xales> So you can use your account, because you bought Minecraft for it.
#70 [00:20] <carsonjl1999> I bought the game and it works under my account but it will not work online for any other account
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#72 [00:20] <lazycris> my minecraft wont go past the mojang screen
#73 [00:21] <xales> Filmguy: Are you looking under a dropdown menu that says "Games" or the words on the page that say "MY GAMES" Note the word "MY".
#74 [00:21] <xales> lazycris: Did you try to install a mod/texture pack?
#75 [00:21] <Ryladine> carsonjl1999, these other accounts you are reffering to, are they paid accounts which have premium status for minecraft?
#76 [00:21] <xales> Ryladine: they're not. They arleady explained it. The problem is they don't understand how accounts work.
#77 [00:21] <carsonjl1999> no they are not
#78 [00:21] <lazycris> i did try to install texture packs
#79 [00:21] <Filmguy> My mistake, let me check.
#80 [00:21] <xales> lazycris: Delete the texture packs.
#81 [00:22] <lazycris> i already did but it still isnt working
#82 [00:22] <xales> ??> lazycris win/reinst
#83 [00:22] <VoxelHead> lazycris: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#84 [00:22] <VoxelHead> lazycris: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#85 [00:22] <carsonjl1999> now look I am not stupid most games you download it and then it works for multiple accounts is minecraft not that way
#86 [00:22] <Ryladine> carsonjl1999, The issue you are encountering is that in order to play online with an account it has to be a paid account which has had minecraft bought on it, one account with the game does not enable accounts without the game to play online.
#87 [00:22] <xales> carsonjl1999: On the contrary, no game works like that.
#88 [00:23] <carsonjl1999> so every account that wants to play has to be paid for that is what you are saying
#89 [00:23] <xales> Yes.
#90 [00:23] <Ryladine> carsonjl1999, thats like saying you can buy one account subscription on WoW and instantly have every other account you know of work without paying the subscription fee. Yes, that is what we are saying.
#91 [00:24] <carsonjl1999> okay that is all you had to really say in the first place and then I was just making sure I was understanding what you people were saying
#92 [00:24] <xales> That's what we were saying the entire time.
#93 [00:24] <carsonjl1999> whatever
#94 [00:24] <Filmguy> Under "My Games" It displays "Did you know that if you've already bought Minecraft you can import your existing profile..." when I attempt to migrate my Minecraft profile using my username and password, it doesn't recognize my credentials.
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#96 [00:25] <xales> Filmguy: Okay. That means that Minecraft isn't associated with that account.
#97 [00:25] <xales> There's a couple of reasons that could be
#98 [00:25] <xales> 1: You're logged into the wrong Mojang account.
#99 [00:25] <xales> 2: Whomever bought it, charged back the transaction
#100 [00:25] <Filmguy> :O
#101 [00:25] <xales> 3: You never had a Mojang account
#102 [00:25] <xales> (and instead had a Minecraft account, though you would use a username to log into it)
#103 [00:26] <Filmguy> Interesting... I know for a fact that the transaction went through and wasn't revoked, we just checked that.
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#105 [00:26] <xales> Are you sure you're on the right account, then?
#106 [00:26] <Filmguy> Yes, it is my personal email address.
#107 [00:26] <Filmguy> I must not have had a Mojang account?
#108 [00:27] <xales> That's possible. Try this:
#109 [00:27] <Filmguy> It is just strange that it was working fine and then out of the blue I can't log in...
#110 [00:27] <xales> Go here, and put in your email - http://minecraft.net/retrievename
#111 [00:27] <Wug> how did you always use to login? with your username, or your email address?
#112 [00:28] <Filmguy> Yes, they should be sending me an email momentarily. Btw, thanks a bunch for your help guys!
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#114 [00:29] <xales> No problem. Though, you should know that we don't have access to the account database, or solving this would be much easier.
#115 [00:29] <xales> You might have to open a ticket.
#116 [00:29] <xales> (Which means it would probably take a day or two for a response, sadly)
#117 [00:31] <Filmguy> Interesting, it appears that I have a different username than what I thought it was... however the password appears to be wrong.
#118 [00:31] <Jshmddx> ...
#119 [00:31] <Jshmddx> AVG Doesn't want to uninstall
#120 [00:32] <xales> Filmguy: what's the username it sent you?
#121 [00:32] <Extreme> I would not recommend un installing avg
#122 [00:32] <xales> Jshmddx: Yeah, again, as I said...your computer is pretty messed up, you should take it to someone who can repair it. (If you're in the United States, try a phonebook for local companies or take it to Staples/Best Buy or some other computer store)
#123 [00:32] <Filmguy> breakinggbk
#124 [00:33] <xales> Filmguy: Okay - that username may be registered on your email, but it's not a premium/paid one
#125 [00:33] <xales> What did you think your username was?
#126 [00:33] <Filmguy> filmguy45
#127 [00:33] <xales> Okay, that one is still showing up as premium
#128 [00:33] <Filmguy> which is what it used to be when I was in-game.
#129 [00:34] <xales> I think you're probably on the wrong Mojang account
#130 [00:34] <Filmguy> Interesting
#131 [00:34] <xales> I can't think of anything else it could be other than the wrong email/Mojang account
#132 [00:34] <Filmguy> hmmm. that is the only email address that I have.
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#134 [00:36] <Jshmddx> !!!!!
#135 [00:36] <xales> Someone bought it for you, right? Perhaps it's under their email?
#136 [00:36] <Jshmddx> Minecraft works!
#137 [00:36] <xales> Jshmddx: congrats
#138 [00:37] <Jshmddx> Once I removed AVG I worked
#139 [00:37] <Jshmddx> It*
#140 [00:37] <xales> thought so
#141 [00:38] <Filmguy> We just checked via the link you sent, only his username was on the list.
#142 [00:39] <xales> When they bought it for you, did they give you a gift code?
#143 [00:40] <Filmguy> Yes, and it activated just fine.
#144 [00:40] <Jshmddx> When I login I have to use my email is there a way to use my username instead? (Email because of Mojang Account)
#145 [00:40] <xales> Do you happen to still have the gift code?
#146 [00:40] <xales> Jshmddx: No, there is not, you have to use your email.
#147 [00:41] <Filmguy> Yup, and I tried activating it again but it said that the code has been used.
#148 [00:41] <xales> that's fine
#149 [00:41] <xales> you need it to contact the accounts people though
#150 [00:41] <xales> they can tell you specifically what's up
#151 [00:41] <Jshmddx> Ok
#152 [00:42] <xales> Filmguy: help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new go here
#153 [00:42] <Filmguy> Okay, how would I reach them?
#154 [00:42] <Filmguy> ohh, thanks!
#155 [00:42] <xales> Filmguy: use that form; put your username (filmguy45) for the username, the gift code for the transaction ID
#156 [00:42] <xales> explain the problem there; they should get back to you in the next day or so
#157 [00:43] <Filmguy> i'm sorry, but that link isn't working
#158 [00:44] <xales> bleh
#159 [00:44] <xales> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#160 [00:45] <Filmguy> There we go. Thank you so much for your help, hopefully this will resolve the issue!
#161 [00:47] <tyteen4a03> xales: mojang/email
#162 [00:47] <xales> I know
#163 [00:47] <xales> I like the personal touch of not using VoxelHead
#164 [00:47] <xales> :3
#165 [00:47] * VoxelHead personally touches xales
#165 [00:48] <tyteen4a03> xales, this is the wrath brought onto you from VoxelHead
#166 [00:48] <xales> =/
#167 [00:48] <Jshmddx> How do you go into 3rd person view?
#168 [00:48] <VoxelHead> Mine rath doth know no limits!
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#172 [00:52] <Guest64244> had to restore computer. had to re download minecraft. All worlds were lost. Are they gone perm..or can they be retrieved somehow?
#173 [00:53] <xales> If you backed them up before restoring your computer, yes.
#174 [00:53] <xales> Otherwise, no.
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#176 [00:53] <Guest64244> ok..did not back up..was not able to ...thnks
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#178 [00:54] <cookiesyum> hi
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#180 [00:55] <cookiesyum> anybody there?
#181 [00:55] <xales> Hi.
#182 [00:55] <allison_> Hi there. I have NO idea what I'm doing. I just bought a new laptop, Windows 8, and when I try to play the game demo, I immediately recieve an error report pertaining to a 'rendering screen' issue. Any ideas?
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#186 [00:55] <xales> allison_: You probably need to update the graphics card driver, though depending on the computer, it may be incapable of playing Minecraft (if it's one of those mostly-a-tablet things)
#187 [00:55] <Extreme> ??> allison_ win/dxdiag/bat
#188 [00:55] <VoxelHead> allison_: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#189 [00:55] <VoxelHead> allison_: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#190 [00:56] <Guest83179> my son set up minecraft lite on my iphone and now we can't set it up on the computer
#191 [00:56] <Extreme> Guest83179: two different things
#192 [00:56] <Guest83179> it tells me that the e-mail is already taken, but that is the one I want to use
#193 [00:56] <xales> Guest83179: Then you've already registered with that email.
#194 [00:57] <xales> If you don't remember your password, use the "forgot password" button when you try to log in.
#195 [00:57] <Guest83179> that was what I thought, but he has no clue of the password
#196 [00:57] <Guest83179> we tried that and got nothing
#197 [00:57] <xales> What do you mean by "got nothing"?
#198 [00:57] <Guest83179> it sent us back to the ogin screen
#199 [00:57] <allison_> I thought you couldn't update a graphics card driver on a laptop? Besides, mine seems like it meets the requirements. I did read somewhere that Minecraft wasn't going to support Windows 8. That's what I'm afraid of.
#200 [00:57] <Guest83179> log in
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#202 [00:57] <cookiesyum> random question what do i need to do to upgrade a my desktop computer? do i just need to worry about the psu? upgrading my graphics card/ cpu ( processor ) ? can anyone tell me
#203 [00:57] <allison_> My error report says nothing about my graphic driver.
#204 [00:58] <Guest83179> thanks, going to try it again
#205 [00:58] <Extreme> allison_: windows 8 works fine
#206 [00:58] <xales> cookiesyum: Upgrading a computer can be somewhat complicated depending on what you are trying to do. You should probably read stuff online about it, or find someone you can talk to in-person/at a computer store that can help you.
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#208 [00:59] <cookiesyum> it can't be that bad can it?
#209 [00:59] <Extreme> allison_: pastebin the error
#210 [00:59] <xales> allison_: Follow VoxelHead's instructions, it will let us know if you're computer will be able to play it, and if you need to update your graphics card driver or not.
#211 [00:59] <Extreme> ??> allison_ pastebin
#212 [00:59] <VoxelHead> allison_: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#213 [00:59] <allison_> okay, one moment.
#214 [00:59] <xales> cookiesyum: If you're trying to upgrade the processor, you'll likely need to swap out the motherboard, which can be fairly difficult and if you don't know what you're doing, you probably will break something.
#215 [00:59] <cookiesyum> i mean just upgrading the graphics card or cpu , i wont need to worry about it being compatible with my mother board and everything right?
#216 [01:00] <xales> As long as it's fairly recent, most any graphics card should be fine.
#217 [01:00] <xales> The CPU is very, very specific though.
#218 [01:00] <xales> The motherboard has to have the right socket for the CPU.
#219 [01:00] <allison_> http://pastebin.com/DyR2F5CR
#220 [01:00] <xales> And if it's a much more power-hungry GPU or CPU, or whatever, you'll also need to upgrade the power supply
#221 [01:01] <xales> Again - you should find someone who can look at what you have and tell you what is compatible with it, and if you decide to upgrade your motherboard, help you do so properly
#222 [01:01] <cookiesyum> well i have a 3.4 ghz processor AMD Quad-Core A10-5700 with 10GB RAM, i don't think i really need a new one, all i'm really worried about is the graphics card that is a AMD Radeon HD 7570
#223 [01:01] <xales> cookiesyum: Yeah, you probably don't need a new one.
#224 [01:02] <xales> cookiesyum: What graphics card do you have now?
#225 [01:02] <xales> allison_: Does the computer you bought have a keyboard?
#226 [01:02] <allison_> yes
#227 [01:02] <xales> Interesting...
#228 [01:02] <cookiesyum> lol
#229 [01:02] <xales> one moment
#230 [01:03] <xales> allison_: Is it one of those tablet things where the keyboard is just an attachment and you can slide a lever and it becomes a tablet
#231 [01:03] <allison_> no, it's an hp...normal laptop.
#232 [01:03] <cookiesyum> xales it's a AMD Radeon HD 7570
#233 [01:03] <cookiesyum> that is decent but not great
#234 [01:03] <xales> cookiesyum: Oh. It's fairly new, might as well wait for 8xxx series
#235 [01:04] <cookiesyum> i'm hoping i can upgrade it at some point but i'm just wondering if ill just need a psu or will it even work?
#236 [01:04] <xales> It depends on what you upgrade it to.
#237 [01:04] <xales> And what your current PSU is.
#238 [01:04] <cookiesyum> it's new but it's still not that good what's the 8xxx series?
#239 [01:05] <xales> That has nothing to do with Minecraft though, so this isn't really the best place to get answers.
#240 [01:05] <xales> Post on a forum like http://tomshardware.com/ or something
#241 [01:05] <xales> 8xxx being the graphics cards they come out with this year
#242 [01:05] <cookiesyum> so all i need to worry about is the psu and the cpu? my cpu is pretty good i think
#243 [01:05] <xales> cookiesyum: You only need to worry about the CPU if you're trying to change the CPU.
#244 [01:06] <xales> allison_: Is the keyboard on it normal for a laptop, or is it strange in any way?
#245 [01:06] <cookiesyum> xales how much will the 8xxx cards be? and how good ?
#246 [01:06] <allison_> It's normal. It doesn't come off or anything like that. And it has normal keys, not a touch screen or anything.
#247 [01:06] <cookiesyum> because this one can barely play battlefield 3 on lowest setting
#248 [01:06] <xales> cookiesyum: Better than what's out now, because they are new. The price will be what the current ones cost once they come out.
#249 [01:06] <xales> They will replace the current ones.
#250 [01:06] <xales> (later in the year)
#251 [01:07] <xales> allison_: Try this. Other than that, don't know what to tell you, perhaps ask on the Minecraft forum. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Update_lwjgl
#252 [01:07] <allison_> Thanks so much for your help xales. I really appreciate it.
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#254 [01:08] <cookiesyum> rage quit
#255 [01:08] <jules> cookiesyum: what gfx card are you considering?
#256 [01:09] <jules> i need a new one too.
#257 [01:10] <cookiesyum> well i was worried that i could only get a AMD one because the cpu is AMD , so i was gonna get the HD 7770
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#259 [01:10] <cookiesyum> witch is garbage also
#260 [01:10] <jules> nah, the cpu doesn't matter
#261 [01:10] <cookiesyum> it's pretty cheap too
#262 [01:10] <xales> The CPU has nothing to do with the GPU
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#264 [01:11] <xales> you can get whatever GPU as long as your motherboard has the right PCIe slot
#265 [01:11] <cookiesyum> but your saying i can just get anything? doesn't matter what mother baord?
#266 [01:11] <jules> yeah i was looking at getting the 5770 but i don't know if that's very good either
#267 [01:11] <cookiesyum> i c
#268 [01:11] <xales> CPU is very specific with regards to motherboard.
#269 [01:11] <xales> GPU is not.
#270 [01:11] <Guest98030> my son has set up a minecraft lite acct on my iphone. he has a username, no clue of the password if there is one. I want to sign up for a mojang acct for him and I am CLUELESS
#271 [01:11] <jules> yes, if your current card is pci-e make sure the new one is also.
#272 [01:11] <cookiesyum> good thing my cpu isn't all that bad eh?
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#274 [01:12] <Guest98030> it will not let me use the e-mail saying it is already sed
#275 [01:12] <xales> Guest98030: Use the "forgot password" tool.
#276 [01:12] <Guest98030> already tried that
#277 [01:12] <xales> Did you see if it sent you an email?
#278 [01:12] <cookiesyum> so wait..
#279 [01:12] <Guest98030> yes it sent me an e-mail and I reset it, but couldn't log on with it
#280 [01:13] <xales> Guest98030: Were you trying to log in on the website, or into the Minecraft game download?
#281 [01:13] <jules> pci-e is just the type of connection, not a brand
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#283 [01:13] <Guest98030> sorry, I thought the website.
#284 [01:13] <cookiesyum> your saying i can get any gpu? .. so i can make this decent gaming machine into a great one? could i install a 500-1000$ graphics card?
#285 [01:14] <Guest98030> can you look up the username?
#286 [01:14] <Guest98030> to see what it is registered to?
#287 [01:14] <xales> Guest98030: The iPhone game and the computer game have no relationship to one another in any way at all.
#288 [01:14] <jules> yeah, you could prob. get the newest card and throw it in there as long as you have enough wattage.
#289 [01:14] <xales> Guest98030: If you're trying to play it on the computer, you'll have to buy the computer edition as well.
#290 [01:15] <xales> jules: The highest-end graphics card are basically just two of the second-highest ones soldered together. It almost always needs more wattage.
#291 [01:15] <Guest98030> I know what his iphone username is, but as far as I know there is nothing minecraft registered online
#292 [01:15] <cookiesyum> wattage meaning psu? i can get a pretty good one for around 100$ right? they aren't that hard to get i don't think
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#294 [01:15] <jules> correct
#295 [01:15] <xales> cookiesyum: One with 1000+W (what you need for a really nice GPU) will be $200 or $300
#296 [01:16] <xales> Guest98030: You don't understand - the iPhone game has nothing to do with the computer game
#297 [01:16] <xales> They are two separate games
#298 [01:16] <xales> If you want to play the computer edition, you have to buy it.
#299 [01:16] <Guest98030> I have a prepaid card that we are trying to use to register an buy it on the computer.
#300 [01:16] <cookiesyum> pc gaming is so expensive but i'm willing to throw my money at it then getting a console gross
#301 [01:16] <xales> That's a bit of an issue.
#302 [01:16] <jules> well upgrading from a 7700 doesn't have to be the best newest vid card
#303 [01:17] <xales> If you live in the United States, you cannot purchase Minecraft with a prepaid card.
#304 [01:17] <Guest98030> you are right, I am computer illiterate and my hubby is deployed......just trying to help my kiddo.
#305 [01:17] <allison> I was just here...I have not bought Minecraft yet; I have no files on my computer for it. The link I was sent to wants me to replace files from Minecraft to fix the crash. I don't own the game yet; the crash happened on the demo version. (I'm so sorry for pestering!)
#306 [01:17] <cookiesyum> if it's a gift card version then you won't be able to buy it
#307 [01:17] <xales> You have to use a real, name-written-on-it, card to buy Minecraft if you live in the United States.
#308 [01:17] <Guest98030> so if there is nothing on the computer, how can my e-mail already be registered>
#309 [01:17] <xales> allison: The files /should/ still be there.
#310 [01:17] <xales> Guest98030: Someone registered it.
#311 [01:17] <Guest98030> does mojang have other games?
#312 [01:18] <xales> Sort of. None of them are released yet.
#313 [01:18] <cookiesyum> jules: i have the 7570 currently
#314 [01:18] <allison> Like I said before, this is a brand new computer; the only files I have are the ones that came with it, and a folder I made with a text document with the crash error information.
#315 [01:18] <Guest98030> I don't play computer games, so I am clueless
#316 [01:18] <allison> I see no other folders; I've tried searching already.
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#318 [01:18] <xales> allison: Minecraft installs itself to the AppData directory, which is not ordinarily visible to the user, or searchable.
#319 [01:19] <jules> i was hoping you could give me a reccomendation :P again, i'm not looking for the newest, i'm looking to spend maybe $100
#320 [01:19] <xales> allison: To get to it:
#321 [01:19] <xales> ??> allison win/.minecraft
#322 [01:19] <VoxelHead> allison: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#323 [01:19] <Jauris> WOuld anyone be able to recommend a redstone tutorial series to me?
#324 [01:19] <xales> Jauris: Google
#325 [01:19] <Guest98030> ok, so I should just be able to go onto Mojang and reset password
#326 [01:19] <xales> Guest98030: Yes.
#327 [01:19] <cookiesyum> once i save up like 1000$ i'm thinking of just slapping some top of the line gpu and a decent psu and be done with it? i mean that's all i need to do right? i don't wanna get a whole new computer
#328 [01:19] <Jauris> I can only seem to find shitty ones, or old ones
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#330 [01:19] <allison> okay, thank you.
#331 [01:19] <xales> cookiesyum: That's all you need to do, yes
#332 [01:19] <zee> hi there
#333 [01:20] <jules> yeah, cookiesyum, that sounds about right
#334 [01:20] <xales> Jauris: Try asking in #direwolf20
#335 [01:20] <cookiesyum> that's great news thanks guy
#336 [01:20] <xales> zee: Hi.
#337 [01:20] <cookiesyum> guys*
#338 [01:20] <jules> but beware your computer warranty, if you care
#339 [01:20] <jules> i think nowadays swapping video cards usually doesn't void it.
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#341 [01:20] <cookiesyum> why? D:
#342 [01:20] <cookiesyum> jules: D: why?
#343 [01:21] <xales> generally opening your computer at all will void it's warranty
#344 [01:21] <xales> depends on the mfctr though
#345 [01:21] <jules> ^
#346 [01:21] <cookiesyum> yeah i'm going to be super careful with this baby
#347 [01:22] <cookiesyum> it's my precious
#348 [01:22] <xales> ._.
#349 [01:22] <zee> how to launch minecraft in offline mode without waiting?
#350 [01:22] <xales> zee: java -cp ~/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#351 [01:22] <xales> I think
#352 [01:23] <zee> xales, tks, i'll give it a try
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#354 [01:23] <cookiesyum> are there any AMD graphic cards for 300$ - 400$, i just wanna see how gpu's that price range perform, but i'm still planning buying one for around 800-1000
#355 [01:23] <xales> cookiesyum: http://newegg.com/
#356 [01:23] <Jauris> lol, you don't need to spend $1000 on a GPU
#357 [01:24] <Jauris> Go to http://pcpartpicker.com/ and sort by AMD
#358 [01:24] <xales> cookiesyum: getting a really high-end GPU may need better cooling than what you have, as well
#359 [01:24] <Jauris> Anything that is a 7870 should run minecraft beautifully
#360 [01:24] <Jauris> 7870 or above*
#361 [01:24] <cookiesyum> yeah i was wondering about that
#362 [01:24] <xales> (and installing liquid cooling in the crappy case that any factory-build manufacturer uses can't happen)
#363 [01:24] <jules> cookiesyum: that's a lot for a video card.
#364 [01:25] <jules> Jauris: thanks! that is the info i was looking for
#365 [01:25] <cookiesyum> i'm pretty sure the 7570 should run minecraft butter smooth
#366 [01:25] <Jauris> Eh, not really. the 7570 is pretty shitty
#367 [01:25] <cookiesyum> what kind of video card should i get then to play games like battlefield 3 on max with 60+ fps?
#368 [01:26] <Jauris> http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003522l
#369 [01:26] <Jauris> For one monitor, at least. Anything more than 1080p will need crossfire (2+ gpus)
#370 [01:26] <cookiesyum> jauris: i seriously doubt that the 7570 can't handle minecraft maxed out.
#371 [01:26] <xales> cookiesyum: personally I'd get an NVIDIA 560/570/580
#372 [01:26] <xales> (you almost always need to liquid cool 590's, so don't do that)
#373 [01:26] <Jauris> 500 series is last gen
#374 [01:26] <xales> I know
#375 [01:26] <xales> cheaper
#376 [01:27] <xales> my laptop has a 580 :3
#377 [01:27] <Jauris> also hotter, with 20% worse performance
#378 [01:27] <xales> cheaper
#379 [01:27] <xales> <_<
#380 [01:27] <cookiesyum> liquid cooling sounds expensive as fak i mean i might as well just get a 3,000 alien ware
#381 [01:27] <xales> AlienWare is garbage
#382 [01:27] <Jauris> lol please god no
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#384 [01:27] <xales> build your own
#385 [01:27] <xales> liquid cool it
#386 [01:27] <Jauris> reddit.com/r/buildapc
#387 [01:27] <xales> would only be about $1500 and rival the most expensive alienware computers
#388 [01:27] <jules> just get a _decent_ card, not a bleed your bank account card.
#389 [01:28] <xales> jules: pfft, who needs to spend real money
#390 [01:28] <xales> CREDIT CARD ALL THE WAY
#391 [01:28] <jules> 3 or 4 hundred should be very adequate
#392 [01:28] <jules> like, very very adequate
#393 [01:28] <cookiesyum> okey what kind of cooling will i need to get? i mean it's a new psu and cooling already
#394 [01:28] <cookiesyum> okey what kind of cooling will i need to get? i mean it's a new psu and cooling already
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#396 [01:29] <jules> you probably will be fine with your current cooling
#397 [01:29] <jules> just monitor your temps and if they seem high to you get another case fan or something
#398 [01:30] <cookiesyum> the only thing i'm not really sure about is the cooling, plus don't these graphic card come with a build in one?
#399 [01:30] <xales> cookiesyum: they have a fan, yes, but that heat has to go somewhere
#400 [01:30] <xales> in this case, it goes into your case
#401 [01:30] <cookiesyum> can't i just open my case?
#402 [01:30] <xales> and then your case has to have adequate cooling to move it out of your cae
#403 [01:30] <xales> case*
#404 [01:30] <cookiesyum> lol
#405 [01:30] <xales> no, opening it is actually really really bad
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#407 [01:30] <xales> heat just sits around
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#409 [01:30] <xales> the point of the fans is to force the heat out
#410 [01:30] <cookiesyum> i see
#411 [01:31] <xales> if you open the case the fans don't work
#412 [01:31] <Nyota> ok im having a minor problem with my Minecraft on the X Box
#413 [01:31] <cookiesyum> well can't i just get a new fan i won't have to get a new case eg?
#414 [01:31] <xales> Nyota: what would that be?
#415 [01:31] <cookiesyum> eh*
#416 [01:31] <xales> cookiesyum: depending on how much heat, fans may not be enough
#417 [01:31] <Nyota> it keeps lagging out when i get close to one of my lighthouses
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#419 [01:31] <jules> my case is hilarious right now. just fabric for the sides.
#420 [01:31] <xales> cookiesyum: for the highest-end card, that's the case
#421 [01:31] <cookiesyum> dam
#422 [01:31] <Nyota> and completely laggs out when i explode to much TNT
#423 [01:31] <cookiesyum> what kind of card do i need for battlefield 3 maxed out 60+ fps
#424 [01:31] <Nyota> im not sure why the Lighthouse causes it
#425 [01:32] <cookiesyum> so your saying i HAVE to have liquid cooling?
#426 [01:32] <xales> Nyota: the Xbox version is really bad/buggy, not much you can do but wait for an update
#427 [01:32] <xales> cookiesyum: not at all
#428 [01:32] <cookiesyum> xales: then what
#429 [01:32] <xales> cookiesyum: if you get a *reasonable* graphics card, for like $200-$400, then you'll be fine
#430 [01:32] <Nyota> well it only recently started to lag out
#431 [01:33] <xales> if you get the highest-end $700-$1000 card, then you will need liquid cooling
#432 [01:33] <Nyota> and its an OLD X box
#433 [01:33] <cookiesyum> yeah but i want to play gamed on high settings with a smooth fps
#434 [01:33] <Nyota> the white one
#435 [01:33] <Nyota> early one
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#438 [01:33] <xales> Nyota: the Xbox is a horrible platform for Minecraft, and the more complex your world is, or the most stuff going on (such as blowing up) the more it will lag
#439 [01:33] <Nyota> oh.
#440 [01:33] <cookiesyum> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c03680502&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=5330777
#441 [01:34] <Nyota> is that link for me?
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#443 [01:34] <cookiesyum> so what parts do you guys recommend i get, with a 800-1000$ budget
#444 [01:34] <xales> Nyota: no
#445 [01:34] <xales> cookiesyum: just upgrade your GPU
#446 [01:34] <xales> cookiesyum: get an NVIDIA 660
#447 [01:35] <Nyota> a what?
#448 [01:35] <xales> ??> Nyota irc/multitasking
#449 [01:35] <VoxelHead> Nyota: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#450 [01:35] <Nyota> also why doesnt my other lighthouse lag out then?
#451 [01:35] <xales> Because it's different?
#452 [01:35] <Nyota> i suppose so...
#453 [01:35] <xales> The only thing you can do, if you want it to not lag out, is not play on the Xbox.
#454 [01:36] <Nyota> oh well. thank you for your help
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#456 [01:37] <cookiesyum> i guess ill just worry about this stuff later but atm i just wanna know if it's totally upgradable
#457 [01:37] <cookiesyum> thanks guys
#458 [01:37] <jules> sure, good luck
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#464 [01:43] <allison> Back again! At this rate I'm going to be best friends with you guys....so, I followed the directions and replaced the files in the Minecraft folder. Now, when I load up the demo, it's stuck at a screen saying 'Updating Minecraft'. I already restarted the computer. Again, I'm sorry for continuing bugging you guys.
#465 [01:43] <Wug> ??> allison teamviewer
#466 [01:43] <VoxelHead> allison: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is a remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#467 [01:43] <VoxelHead> allison: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#468 [01:44] <Wug> since youve been here a few times ill just fix it myself
#469 [01:45] <allison> I'm just iffy about letting people from the internet just getting on my computer. Is my information protected with my firewall and what not?
#470 [01:46] <Wug> it will be accessible only to the person you provide teamviewer information
#471 [01:46] <Wug> (which will be me)
#472 [01:46] <xales> Not really, but if he tried to access it, then you would see it happen, and you can always click the X to disconnect or just turn your computer off.
#473 [01:46] <tyteen4a03> xales, KILL WUG WITH FIRE
#474 [01:46] <Wug> just make sure you provide the id and password with //msg wug id: xxx yyy zzz pass: qqqq
#475 [01:47] <Wug> um, just /msg
#476 [01:47] <Wug> no double /
#477 [01:47] <Wug> allison: ^
#478 [01:47] <Wug> tyteen4a03: I'm fireproof ever since The Incident
#479 [01:47] <tyteen4a03> Wug, can I kill you by not giving you electricity then
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#481 [01:48] <allison> Okay...so I just click the link and then what?
#482 [01:49] <Wug> allison: download teamviewer 8 for your computer, then start it.
#483 [01:49] <allison> Also, am I going to be able to follow what you're doing on my computer?
#484 [01:49] <Wug> yes, you'll be able to see everything
#485 [01:49] <allison> Okay, that makes me more comfortable. So, when I download, do I save it or just run it?
#486 [01:50] <Wug> just run it
#487 [01:50] <Wug> if it asks you about running without installing, do that
#488 [01:50] <Wug> (if I had a notch in a stick for every time I'd helped someone with teamviewer, I would not longer have a stick)
#489 [01:51] <Wug> nothing's gone wrong yet, except for that time I ipconfig /release'd one person
#490 [01:51] <Wug> you could do that with a batch file and it would be fine
#491 [01:51] <allison> So do I just tell you here the ID and password it gave me in the pop up?
#492 [01:52] <Wug> to do so:
#493 [01:52] <Wug> use /msg wug id: xxxyyyzzz pass: qqqq
#494 [01:52] <allison> Um, I just type that into this chat box, and the numbers won't show up to anyone else?
#495 [01:53] <Wug> yes. start with the slash
#496 [01:53] <Wug> replace the digits
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#498 [01:53] <Wug> even if you did tell everyone by accident, there's never been an incident with someone taking over someone elses computer
#499 [01:55] <allison> I'm sure you can understand why I'm a bit uncomfortable with the idea of it though; the internet isn't always full of nice, honest people.
#500 [01:56] <xales> Oh, absolutely. I can personally vouch for Wug, and anyone else here with higher status (a + or @ before their name). Not that you'd have any reason to trust me over anyone else, though.
#501 [01:57] <tyteen4a03> Alternatively Wug can give you the instructions over IRC, but the process is quite longwinded if you would prefer that
#502 [01:57] <jules> just keep your hand next to the disconnect button in case he tries anything funny. which doesn't sound like it's going to happen.
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#504 [02:01] <allison> ?? java
#505 [02:01] <VoxelHead> java: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
#506 [02:02] <Wug> im teamviewering
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#509 [02:05] <Joe> no matter what i have tried I can not get my friend to be able to connect to my server. it keeps saying server timed out
#510 [02:06] <tyteen4a03> Joe, server IP please?
#511 [02:06] <Joe> 192.168.2.24
#512 [02:06] <tyteen4a03> Joe, are you and your friend in the same house?
#513 [02:06] <Joe> no. different countries
#514 [02:06] <tyteen4a03> Joe, this is an internal IP address and cannot be used for connections
#515 [02:07] <Joe> so how do i make it external
#516 [02:07] <tyteen4a03> Joe, he must give you his external IP address instead for you to be able to connect to him
#517 [02:07] <xales> (and he has to port-forward)
#518 [02:07] <Joe> i am hosting
#519 [02:07] <tyteen4a03> Joe, oh, you're hosting the server?
#520 [02:07] <Joe> so it will be my external
#521 [02:07] <Joe> and i have already done port forwarding
#522 [02:07] <tyteen4a03> Joe, in that case, you need to set up port forwarding first
#523 [02:07] <tyteen4a03> hang on
#524 [02:07] <tyteen4a03> !check oki-180-131-242-28.jptransit.net
#525 [02:08] <tyteen4a03> !check 180.131.242.28
#526 [02:08] <tyteen4a03> Joe, your external IP is 180.131.242.28, but it may change later on
#527 [02:08] <tyteen4a03> Joe, to get your external IP go to http://whatismyip.com
#528 [02:08] <Joe> so i change the server ip to that
#529 [02:08] <xales> no
#530 [02:08] <Joe> and then have him connect to it?
#531 [02:08] <xales> don't change anything, it works now
#532 [02:08] <xales> just have him connect to it
#533 [02:09] <Joe> sweet thanks!
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#540 [02:21] <Wug> ??>> allison refund
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#543 [02:26] <xales> Wug: I don't think they bought it
#544 [02:27] <Wug> xales: they wanted to know
#545 [02:27] <xales> ah
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#547 [02:28] <Longsaddle> I was wondering if someone could help me, my buddy and I have been tring to get minecraft to work but it hasn't gone well so far
#548 [02:28] <xales> What's the problem?
#549 [02:28] <Longsaddle> I keep getting a java error and it spits out a HS PID notepad log file everytime it crashes
#550 [02:28] <xales> ??> Longsaddle error
#551 [02:28] <Longsaddle> I have the logs in a pastebin
#552 [02:28] <VoxelHead> Longsaddle: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#553 [02:28] <VoxelHead> Longsaddle: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#554 [02:29] <Longsaddle> I reinstalled JAVA and my drivers
#555 [02:29] <Longsaddle> http://pastebin.com/AvSUKhEw
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#557 [02:29] <xales> okay, that's a driver problem
#558 [02:29] <Longsaddle> last I checked my PC meets the minimums and so on
#559 [02:29] <xmannj2> Hello.
#560 [02:29] <tiger_M> o oo
#561 [02:29] <xales> do you know what graphics card you have?
#562 [02:29] <xales> xmannj2: Hi.
#563 [02:29] <Longsaddle> yeah ATI Radeon HD 3200
#564 [02:30] <Longsaddle> I just reinstalled the drivers coincidentally about 8 hours ago on a whim
#565 [02:30] <tiger_M> no problem is thar
#566 [02:30] <tiger_M> [08:29] (Longsaddle) http://pastebin.com/AvSUKhEw
#567 [02:30] <xmannj2> When I try to use FTB, it either gives a black screen or a timed out screen.
#568 [02:30] <tiger_M> not a problem
#569 [02:30] <xales> Longsaddle: okay, try running this: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#570 [02:30] <xales> tiger_M: Uh, what?
#571 [02:30] <tiger_M> i have that on wednesday
#572 [02:30] <xales> xmannj2: unfortunately, we can't help with FTB. Does normal Minecraft work?
#573 [02:30] <xmannj2> Yes.
#574 [02:30] <tiger_M> java crash
#575 [02:31] <tiger_M> more not
#576 [02:31] <xales> tiger_M: Nothing you are saying makes any sense.
#577 [02:31] <xales> xmannj2: Try asking for help in #ftb
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#579 [02:32] <Wug> xmannj2: ftb?
#580 [02:32] <xmannj2> okay
#581 [02:32] <xales> Wug: "Feed the Beast", it's a modpack
#582 [02:32] <xmannj2> Feed the beast?
#583 [02:32] <xmannj2> Isn't this one the feed the beast site?
#584 [02:32] <Wug> aha, yeah, ask in #ftb
#585 [02:32] <xmannj2> o.o
#586 [02:32] <Wug> this is the unmodded minecraft help site
#587 [02:32] <Wug> "site"
#588 [02:32] <Wug> its not really a site but whatever
#589 [02:33] <xales> Just type "/join #ftb" to get there
#590 [02:33] <xmannj2> oh... I'm on the FTB site and it brought me here. xD sorry
#591 [02:33] <xmannj2> oh... I'm on the FTB site and it brought me here. xD sorry
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#593 [02:33] <xales> no it didn't
#594 [02:33] <xales> it brought you to #ftb
#595 [02:33] <xales> *sigh*
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#601 [02:44] <cockiesyum> hey
#602 [02:44] <cockiesyum> you guys still here?
#603 [02:44] <cockiesyum> anyone here?
#604 [02:44] <xales> we're still here
#605 [02:44] <xales> though sometimes it takes more than 30 seconds for a response
#606 [02:44] <xales> ?? patience
#607 [02:45] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#608 [02:45] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#609 [02:45] <cockiesyum> hey sorry i just got a question i wanna get this game but i need to know my directx
#610 [02:45] <cockiesyum> i don't know it
#611 [02:45] <tyteen4a03> *few hours
#612 [02:45] <xales> do you have Windows 7 or Windows Vista?
#613 [02:45] <cockiesyum> win 8
#614 [02:45] <cockiesyum> it facking sucks
#615 [02:45] <cockiesyum> by the way
#616 [02:45] <xales> Then you have whatever version of DirectX that your video card says it supports
#617 [02:45] <xales> chances are, the latest one
#618 [02:46] <cockiesyum> what does the AMD A10-5700 support? i can't find this anywhere
#619 [02:46] <cockiesyum> i googled it like 10 times
#620 [02:47] <cockiesyum> can't find anything
#621 [02:47] <xales> that's a processor
#622 [02:47] <xales> not a graphics card
#623 [02:47] <xales> the CPU has nothing to do with DirectX at all
#624 [02:47] <jules> can't he just run 'dxdiag'?
#625 [02:47] <xales> probably
#626 [02:47] <cockiesyum> oh lol sorry i meant Eyefinity Radeon HD 7570 lol
#627 [02:47] <jules> i don't know anything about win8
#628 [02:47] <xales> it has the latest directx (11)
#629 [02:47] <xales> it took me about 5 seconds to find on Google
#630 [02:47] <cockiesyum> how does u know
#631 [02:48] <xales> http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-5000/hd-5750/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-5750-overview.aspx
#632 [02:48] <Longsaddle> so I installed my drivers, the same issue arises
#633 [02:49] <Longsaddle> try miencraft,, goes to a black screen spits out an error log
#634 [02:49] <cockiesyum> what's up
#635 [02:51] <xales> Longsaddle: try this:
#636 [02:51] <xales> ??> Longsaddle win/dxdiag
#637 [02:51] <VoxelHead> Longsaddle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#638 [02:51] <VoxelHead> Longsaddle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
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#640 [02:52] <Longsaddle> sure, one second
#641 [02:52] <cockiesyum> is VoxelHead Elite
#642 [02:52] <cockiesyum> BOSS
#643 [02:53] <xales> wat
#644 [02:53] <Longsaddle> http://pastebin.com/0P05CRDX
#645 [02:53] <cockiesyum> i bet i has better rig then you guys
#646 [02:53] <cockiesyum> be jelly
#647 [02:54] <xales> cockiesyum: so?
#648 [02:54] <xales> (and for the record, you don't)
#649 [02:54] <cockiesyum> what's your then
#650 [02:54] <cockiesyum> what's your then
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#652 [02:54] <cockiesyum> lol i spelled cookies wrong
#653 [02:55] <xales> cockiesyum: http://forevernothing.com/destiny.lshw.html
#654 [02:55] <xales> Longsaddle: hmm
#655 [02:55] <xales> can you pastebin the error again?
#656 [02:55] <Longsaddle> asure
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#658 [02:56] <Longsaddle> http://pastebin.com/LU5Yzk2s
#659 [02:56] <Longsaddle> this is the error after installing the drivers
#660 [02:57] <cockiesyum> xales i bet it over heats so bad you use it as an oven to make cookies
#661 [02:57] <cockiesyum> i like cookies
#662 [02:57] <xales> cockiesyum: nope, it handles heat just fine
#663 [02:57] <cockiesyum> i has better cpu
#664 [02:57] <xales> cockiesyum: nope
#665 [02:57] <cockiesyum> you has 2.5 i has 3.4
#666 [02:57] <cockiesyum> owned
#667 [02:57] <xales> hah.
#668 [02:57] <xales> clock speed means nothing, I have an i7
#669 [02:57] <xales> and, mine is overclocked to 4.0 anyway
#670 [02:57] <xales> bite me
#671 [02:58] <cockiesyum> what did you clock it too
#672 [02:58] <xales> 4.0
#673 [02:58] <cockiesyum> lol you over clocked it?
#674 [02:58] <xales> anyway
#675 [02:58] <xales> of course I did
#676 [02:58] <cockiesyum> on a laptop bro?
#677 [02:58] <xales> Longsaddle: that's the latest error, with the updated drivers?
#678 [02:58] <Longsaddle> yes
#679 [02:58] <cockiesyum> xales make me some cookies plox
#680 [02:58] * Moose is now known as Moose\Away
#681 [02:58] <cockiesyum> how do i change nick
#682 [02:59] * Smanly is now known as Smanly|Away
#683 [02:59] <xales> /nick (whatever)
#684 [02:59] * cockiesyum is now known as cookiesyum
#685 [02:59] <xales> Longsaddle: one moment
#686 [02:59] <cookiesyum> hey xales what's you gpu
#687 [02:59] <Longsaddle> take your time
#688 [02:59] <xales> Longsaddle: did you restart your computer after installing the latest driver
#689 [02:59] <xales> cookiesyum: NVIDIA 580m
#690 [03:00] <Longsaddle> hrm no, i'll give it a shot
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#694 [03:08] <cookiesyum> hey
#695 [03:08] <cookiesyum> xales: how do i read gpu and cpu's?
#696 [03:08] <cookiesyum> how do i tell witch is better?
#697 [03:09] <cookiesyum> which*
#698 [03:10] <xales> uh
#699 [03:10] <xales> you don't
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#701 [03:10] <xales> higher number in the same series/mfctr is better
#702 [03:11] <cookiesyum> what if it's not same series/mfctr can't you check the specs of the gpu
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#704 [03:14] <xales> you can
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#706 [03:15] <xales> but unless you understand how a graphics card actually works, most of it wouldn't mean much other than "higher numbers is better"
#707 [03:15] <xales> (and explaining that would be difficult to do unless you're at the very least, already a fairly knowledgeable software developer)
#708 [03:16] <tyteen4a03> xales, the higher number of dead pixels, the better!
#709 [03:17] <xales> yep
#710 [03:18] <cookiesyum> how mnay dead pixels are in a Radeon HD 7570
#711 [03:19] <xales> 2073600
#712 [03:19] <xales> *snrk*
#713 [03:19] <cookiesyum> how many are in a NVIDIA 580m
#714 [03:20] <xales> have you ever had a TV, monitor, or anything
#715 [03:20] <xales> where a single pixel got stuck a certain color
#716 [03:20] <xales> (often green)
#717 [03:20] <cookiesyum> why ?
#718 [03:20] <xales> because that's a dead pixel
#719 [03:20] <cookiesyum> nope
#720 [03:20] <xales> tyteen4a03 was using something called "sarcasm"
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#722 [03:21] <Andrio> I had a pink one on my first Nintendo DS.
#723 [03:21] <Andrio> Which, by the way, was also pink.
#724 [03:21] <xales> heh
#725 [03:21] <tyteen4a03> (dead pixels only applies to monitors, and indicates that specific pixel is not functioning)
#726 [03:21] <xales> or TVs
#727 [03:21] <tyteen4a03> usually if there are more than 5 of them, it should be sent back to repair
#728 [03:21] <xales> which can be monitors but aren't
#729 [03:21] <xales> :D
#730 [03:21] <cookiesyum> so then how do you tell ? lol
#731 [03:21] <Andrio> or displays in general.
#732 [03:22] <tyteen4a03> Andrio, only LC/ED ones
#733 [03:22] <tyteen4a03> not sure if CRT does
#734 [03:22] <xales> cookiesyum: look at the specs for the card
#735 [03:22] <Andrio> ED?
#736 [03:22] <tubelius> LCD/LED
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#738 [03:26] <cookiesyum> so you gpu is called nvidia 580?
#739 [03:27] <tubelius> yes, Nvidia 580 is a GPU
#740 [03:27] <tubelius> or actually Nvidia 580 has a GPU :D
#741 [03:28] <cookiesyum> Nvidia 580 ? not like geforce
#742 [03:28] <cookiesyum> hey tubelius what's you gpu
#743 [03:28] <tubelius> You are probably talking about Nvidia GeForce GTX 580
#744 [03:29] <tubelius> my video card is: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570
#745 [03:30] <cookiesyum> xales has a gpu 245% better then mine
#746 [03:30] <cookiesyum> how much does it cost?
#747 [03:31] <tubelius> http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0&_nkw=NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+570&_sacat=0&_from=R40
#748 [03:31] <xales> I blew like 3k on my laptop >_>
#749 [03:31] <xales> dumb idea, but at the time it made sense
#750 [03:31] <tubelius> gaming laptops eat money
#751 [03:31] <tubelius> :D
#752 [03:31] <xales> yeah, they do
#753 [03:32] <xales> it has a /really/ nice screen though
#754 [03:32] <cookiesyum> xales how much did you gpu cost you?
#755 [03:32] <xales> I didn't buy the GPU separately
#756 [03:32] <tubelius> I thought about that too, then I bought a desktop PC with same performance for 1000EUR
#757 [03:32] <xales> if you want to know how much it costs you could Google it and find out in about 3 seconds
#758 [03:32] <xales> tubelius: at the time a desktop wasn't practical, for reasons I'd rather not go into
#759 [03:33] <tubelius> yeah :)
#760 [03:33] <tubelius> laptops are practical but expensive
#761 [03:34] <xales> I just bought myself a MacBook Air
#762 [03:34] <xales> I actually really like it
#763 [03:34] <cookiesyum> lol
#764 [03:34] <xales> obviously it's not for any serious use
#765 [03:34] <xales> but damn
#766 [03:34] <cookiesyum> Nvidia GeForce GTX 580 is like around 500$
#767 [03:34] <xales> for what I spend most of my time doing lately, it's great
#768 [03:34] <cookiesyum> watching p0rn
#769 [03:34] <xales> yeah man
#770 [03:34] <xales> all day long
#771 [03:34] * xales fap fap fap
#771 [03:35] <tubelius> :P
#772 [03:35] <cookiesyum> shemale bondage hentai
#773 [03:35] <xales> hardly
#774 [03:35] <tyteen4a03> xales, if you open up the Other Market there will be lots of choices
#775 [03:35] <tyteen4a03> so you won't have to p0rn all day long again
#776 [03:35] <xales> tyteen4a03: the what
#777 [03:35] <cookiesyum> i just found the best website ever
#778 [03:35] <cookiesyum> for pc gaming
#779 [03:35] <tubelius> the other market?
#780 [03:35] <tyteen4a03> xales, the Other Market
#781 [03:35] <xales> I swear to $deity if it's a shock website
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#783 [03:35] <xales> tyteen4a03: is it the Silk Road or something similar
#784 [03:36] <xales> or do I have no idea what you're talking about
#785 [03:36] <tyteen4a03> xales, you don't have any idea what I am talking about
#786 [03:36] <cookiesyum> http://www.game-debate.com/
#787 [03:36] <tyteen4a03> The Other Market, however, is my main market
#788 [03:36] <xales> tyteen4a03: you've got some 'splainin to do, Lucy
#789 [03:36] <Backhash> hello everyone, i have an issue with permissionsEx, can't get it to work. i have posted my issue on the forums
#790 [03:36] <tyteen4a03> xales, then no :P
#791 [03:36] <xales> Backhash: /join #permissionsex
#792 [03:36] <cookiesyum> cool story bro
#793 [03:36] <Backhash> ok, thx
#794 [03:37] <cookiesyum> hey the page wont scroll down when there is new comments it's so annoying can i fix it?
#795 [03:37] <xales> don't use webchat
#796 [03:37] <cookiesyum> what then
#797 [03:37] <xales> if you're on Windows, HexChat or mIRC
#798 [03:38] <tubelius> mIRC costs 20$
#799 [03:38] <cookiesyum> link plox?
#800 [03:38] <tubelius> www.google.com
#801 [03:38] <cookiesyum> ...
#802 [03:38] <tubelius> ..
#803 [03:38] <cookiesyum> :3
#804 [03:39] <xales> tubelius: mIRC is free
#805 [03:39] <xales> it just nags you
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#808 [03:39] <tubelius> right :|
#809 [03:39] <cockiesyum> i bet i has the best rig not counting the gpu
#810 [03:40] <cockiesyum> out of all you fools
#811 [03:40] <xales> I have an i7
#812 [03:40] <xales> so no, you don't
#813 [03:40] <xales> I also have a server with dual Xeons
#814 [03:40] <cockiesyum> yeah i do
#815 [03:40] <xales> so I win automatically
#816 [03:40] <cockiesyum> you hav ea 2.5 ghz lol
#817 [03:40] <xales> not that it's a competition
#818 [03:40] <tubelius> cockiesyum: how much RAM?
#819 [03:40] <xales> the Xeons are 4.2 and the server has two of them
#820 [03:40] <cockiesyum> 10GB
#821 [03:40] <tubelius> SSD?
#822 [03:40] <cockiesyum> 2g on cpu
#823 [03:41] <xales> cockiesyum: it's not a competition
#824 [03:41] <xales> and either way
#825 [03:41] <xales> you lose hilariously
#826 [03:41] <xales> so sod off, please
#827 [03:42] <cockiesyum> yeah but you'res doesn't count since your on a laptop so after 10 min of using it your cookies will burn and the fireman will have to com and take it away
#828 [03:42] <xales> sure
#829 [03:42] <xales> the server however, wins
#830 [03:42] <xales> it has 64GB of RAM and dual 4.2GHz Xeons
#831 [03:42] <xales> so
#832 [03:42] <cockiesyum> what server
#833 [03:42] <xales> bite me
#834 [03:42] <cockiesyum> what are you talking about
#835 [03:42] <tubelius> nice
#836 [03:43] <xales> I don't technically own it, a business I run does, and it only owns it on credit...but nonetheless
#837 [03:43] <xales> >_>
#838 [03:43] <cockiesyum> so you own a server that mean your not running it
#839 [03:43] <xales> uh, what?
#840 [03:43] <cockiesyum> doesn't mean you're running it
#841 [03:43] <tubelius> :D
#842 [03:43] <cockiesyum> the server room or someone else is
#843 [03:43] <xales> oh, but it does
#844 [03:43] <xales> and I still have a desktop that hasn't been discussed
#845 [03:44] <xales> it's somewhat dated but it's still better than your computer
#846 [03:44] <cockiesyum> what's the specs on your desktop
#847 [03:44] <xales> honestly, I don't even remember
#848 [03:44] <xales> it has one of those funky 6-core AMD processors
#849 [03:44] <cockiesyum> because your so amazed by mine
#850 [03:44] <xales> absolutely
#851 [03:44] <xales> time for me to resurrect one of my favorite kick messages
#852 [03:44] <cockiesyum> :(
#853 [03:44] * xales kicked cockiesyum from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ockiesyum :Please, come back when your age and/or IQ reaches double digits.)
#854 [03:45] <tubelius> :P
#855 [03:45] <tyteen4a03> xales, you want triple digits for IQ
#856 [03:45] <tubelius> true
#857 [03:45] <tyteen4a03> just to be safe
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#859 [03:45] <cockiesyum> my age and/or IQ reaches double digits
#860 [03:45] <tubelius> great :)
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#863 [03:46] <Veratuu> hello
#864 [03:46] <tyteen4a03> hi Veratuu
#865 [03:46] <Veratuu> I've been having an issue with the minecraft launcher for a few weeks now and have not had much luck fixing it
#866 [03:47] <Wug> xales: dont play with your food
#867 [03:47] <tubelius> :S
#868 [03:47] <tyteen4a03> Veratuu, what happens when you try?
#869 [03:47] <Veratuu> When I try to login I get "Can't connect to minecraft.net
#870 [03:47] <tyteen4a03> Wug, or his Other Market
#871 [03:48] <tyteen4a03> Veratuu, has Minecraft worked before?
#872 [03:48] <Veratuu> yes
#873 [03:48] <tyteen4a03> Veratuu, do you have any antiviruses or firewalls installed?
#874 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> Veratuu - Your system date and time correct?
#875 [03:49] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, if CTCP isn't lying, yes
#876 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> Didn't get a response back from CTCP
#877 [03:49] <Veratuu> I have Avira Antivirus installed, and I have tried to login after disabling them, same issue. My date and Time appear to be correct and are synced with time.windows.com
#878 [03:49] <tyteen4a03> Veratuu, can you take a screenshot of your launcher and upload it to imgur.com?
#879 [03:51] <Veratuu> sure, I've also been trying to get help on the minecraft wiki, here's the link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1772950-cant-connect-to-minecraftnet/
#880 [03:51] <Veratuu> might help with some information
#881 [03:51] <xales> check DNS
#882 [03:52] <Backhash> maybe he needs to forward ports
#883 [03:52] <Backhash> ?
#884 [03:52] <xales> nope, that has nothing to do with it
#885 [03:52] <tyteen4a03> Backhash, not revelant unless you're running servers
#886 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> Veratuu - Open cmd prompt, ping login.minecraft.net, see what ip address you get back
#887 [03:55] <Veratuu> I've never used Imgur before, so I hope I did this right... http://imgur.com/kN86FMC
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#890 [03:56] <Veratuu> I pinged, and I get "Request Timed Out" 4 times
#891 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> What ip address does it resolve to?
#892 [03:56] <Wug> Veratuu: it doesnt respond, but it should resolve the address.
#893 [03:57] <Veratuu> uhhhhh.... 23.23.101.217?
#894 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't look right..
#895 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> Does it?
#896 [03:59] <Wug> it might be an old one. googling it seems to indicate that its an amazon ip
#897 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, nslookup's saying it's an amazon ip
#898 [03:59] <tyteen4a03> old IP on an IIS server
#899 [03:59] <Wug> have we tried ipconfig /flushdns
#900 [03:59] <tyteen4a03> Wug, nope
#901 [04:00] <tyteen4a03> I've wasted the last 2 hours of my life being in a stalker party but I did get to know people better than before
#902 [04:00] <tyteen4a03> so now I must eat (as always)
#903 [04:02] <xales> that server is crap
#904 [04:02] <xales> it's not Minecraft
#905 [04:02] <xales> running IIS and when I try to fetch minecraft.net from it
#906 [04:02] <xales> 403
#907 [04:02] <xales> <h2>403 - Forbidden: Access is denied.</h2>
#908 [04:02] <xales> <h3>You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials that you supplied.</h3>
#909 [04:02] <Wug> xales: it probably was last week
#910 [04:02] <xales> Mojang doesn't use IIS
#911 [04:02] <Wug> its part of amazons cloud
#912 [04:02] <xales> they use fucking Tomcat
#913 [04:02] <Veratuu> ok, so is there a way to fix it?
#914 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> ipconfig /flushdns
#915 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> then give us a copy of your hosts file if that doesn't fix it
#916 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> ??> Veratuu win/hosts
#917 [04:03] <VoxelHead> Veratuu: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#918 [04:03] <VoxelHead> Veratuu: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#919 [04:03] <xales> Wug: if it was amazon it would have their logo splotched everywhere
#920 [04:04] <Wug> xales: /exec whois 23.23.101.217
#921 [04:04] <Wug> >NetName: AMAZON-EC2-USEAST-10
#922 [04:05] <xales> Wug: it's an amazon server, sure
#923 [04:05] <xales> but it's not one run by mojang
#924 [04:05] <Wug> they shuffle around periodically
#925 [04:05] <xales> potentially
#926 [04:05] <Wug> no they definitely do
#927 [04:05] <xales> but my guess is that it's crap
#928 [04:06] <Veratuu> http://pastebin.com/hGbJJ8G2
#929 [04:06] <xales> not if Mojang uses elastic IPs
#930 [04:06] <Wug> there are sporadic issues with a ton of people having dns issues
#931 [04:06] <Wug> because the ip changed
#932 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> hosts file is clean....?
#933 [04:06] * GreyVulpine hmms
#933 [04:06] <Wug> used to happen like twice a month
#934 [04:06] <xales> could be the registry
#935 [04:06] <xales> or the
#936 [04:06] <xales> magic
#937 [04:06] <xales> HAVE YOU TRIED TURNING IT OFF AND ON AGAIN
#938 [04:07] <Veratuu> yes
#939 [04:07] <Veratuu> I also flushed
#940 [04:07] <Wug> Veratuu: try waiting until tomorrow
#941 [04:07] <Wug> chances are your isp's dns records are out of date
#942 [04:07] <Wug> theyll expire and be renewed eventually
#943 [04:07] <xales> change DNS server
#944 [04:07] <Wug> or this ^
#945 [04:07] <Wug> but it takes work and if youre lazy dont bother
#946 [04:07] <Veratuu> I've been working on this since the 10th
#947 [04:08] <xales> so yeah change DNS server
#948 [04:08] <Wug> call your isp and yell at them
#949 [04:08] <Wug> it probably wont fix it but it will make you feel better
#950 [04:10] <Veratuu> how might I go about changing my DNS server?
#951 [04:11] <Veratuu> you guys are being quite helpful by the way, thanks you
#952 [04:12] <xales> one sec
#953 [04:12] <xales> https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using
#954 [04:12] <Wug> your call is very important to us
#955 [04:12] <Wug> :D
#956 [04:13] <xales> lol
#957 [04:13] <Wug> isnt it xales
#958 [04:13] <xales> yes
#959 [04:13] * Wug steps on xales' foot
#959 [04:13] <xales> ow :c
#960 [04:13] * xales hits Wug with tyteen4a03
#960 [04:13] * Wug dodges flying tyteen4a03
#960 [04:13] * xales riposte
#960 [04:13] <tubelius> way to go
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#967 [04:32] <Veratuu> wow, like a charm
#968 [04:32] <Veratuu> thank you again
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#978 [05:23] <ineedhelpwithminecraft> hello guys my friend is having a problem with his minecraft account it wont let him get on but he types his username and password right please help thank you
#979 [05:23] <ineedhelpwithminecraft> wug?
#980 [05:24] <ineedhelpwithminecraft> nmghgjl;lokjujhikolpikijhbjnjikolp;
#981 [05:24] <Wug> dont do that
#982 [05:24] <Wug> god
#983 [05:24] <Wug> do you do that when you walk into every public place
#984 [05:25] * Smanly is now known as Smanly|Away
#985 [05:25] <Wug> whats his keyboard layout set to? US english?
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#987 [05:25] <Wug> and seriously
#988 [05:25] <Wug> try to have more than 11 seconds worth of patience
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#991 [05:28] <tyteen4a03> Wug, it's his third time here isn't it
#992 [05:28] <Wug> more like 10th
#993 [05:28] <tyteen4a03> oh
#994 [05:29] <Wug> I hate people like that
#995 [05:29] <tyteen4a03> who doesn't
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#1001 [05:57] <tubelius> Do you think it's a good idea to host a server from home? Will I just get DDOSed?
#1002 [06:01] <zoo> no, generally you won't
#1003 [06:02] <tyteen4a03> tubelius, DDoS attacks must come from a, well, attacker
#1004 [06:02] <zoo> But, a "home-host" is not for 200 players ^^You can't host more than 20 players at home whyout lag ^^
#1005 [06:02] <zoo> anyway
#1006 [06:03] <tubelius> OK
#1007 [06:03] <tubelius> my record is 7 players so far
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#1009 [06:03] <tubelius> it would probably be better than my current server hosted elsewhere
#1010 [06:04] <tubelius> tyteen4a03: I've heard many stories about servers getting DDOSed for not giving ops to someone :P
#1011 [06:04] <tyteen4a03> tubelius, these are DoSes at best
#1012 [06:04] <tyteen4a03> and them DoSing you means that you stand corrected
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#1014 [06:05] <tubelius> o_O
#1015 [06:05] <tubelius> so, is this a real threat?
#1016 [06:06] <tyteen4a03> tubelius, it is a real threat, just that you won't see it often
#1017 [06:06] <tubelius> OK :|
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#1019 [06:06] <tubelius> maybe I'll try my luck
#1020 [06:06] <tyteen4a03> tubelius, it really is up to you, there will be risks, depending on whether you want to take it or not
#1021 [06:07] <tubelius> yeah, that's what I was wondering
#1022 [06:08] <philb83> Can anyone help, I am trying to get Minecraft on my IMAC, but I cannot get it to work
#1023 [06:09] <tubelius> Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_8_2
#1024 [06:09] <tubelius> philb83: what's the issue?
#1025 [06:10] <tyteen4a03> tubelius, you don't need to copy it out to the open
#1026 [06:10] <tubelius> why not?
#1027 [06:10] <tyteen4a03> people that need that information will /ctcp VERSION them themselves
#1028 [06:10] <philb83> I am trying the demo before purchasing the full version, when I click the link nothing happens, the screen remains blank
#1029 [06:10] <tyteen4a03> ??> philb83 mac/demo
#1030 [06:10] <VoxelHead> philb83: (mac/demo) The demo does not work on Macs (though there is a workaround for the very advanced user). The full version, however, will.
#1031 [06:11] <philb83> Many thanks, happy Minecrafting
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#1033 [06:11] <tubelius> tyteen4a03: isn't it easier if it's there in public?
#1034 [06:11] <tyteen4a03> tubelius, usually not, because at most there will only be one or two person helping
#1035 [06:12] <tubelius> OK
#1036 [06:12] <tyteen4a03> tubelius, of course there's no harm copying it out, but it becomes annoying (think of the accumulating sysinfos)
#1037 [06:13] <tubelius> o_O
#1038 [06:13] <tubelius> ok
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#1040 [06:25] <timtob5> Ist wemand hier deutsch?
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#1042 [06:25] <tubelius> :P
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#1048 [06:55] <Minty_> I Had My computer formated when i got it back i went online logged in and redownloaded minecraft all my worls are gone is that suppoesed to hapen?
#1049 [06:55] <tubelius> yes
#1050 [06:55] <Wug> uhhh. yep
#1051 [06:55] <Minty_> how do i get them back
#1052 [06:55] <Wug> sounds like theres probably no chance of getting them back either
#1053 [06:55] <Minty_> :(
#1054 [06:56] <Wug> you dont happen to have a backup do you
#1055 [06:56] <Minty_> nope how do i make sure this dosnt happen again
#1056 [06:56] <tubelius> make backups or play online
#1057 [06:56] <Minty_> ok thanks for the help
#1058 [06:57] <Wug> the folder you'd need to back up is %appdata%\.minecraft\saves
#1059 [06:57] <tubelius> there are free these free cloud services where you can store files
#1060 [06:57] <Minty_> ok
#1061 [06:57] <tubelius> like Google Drive and Dropbox
#1062 [06:57] <Wug> if you have mods, texture packs, etc and want to save those too, just save the entire .minecraft folder
#1063 [06:57] <Minty_> okay dokey i will make sure i do that :) bye
#1064 [06:58] <tubelius> bye
#1065 [06:58] <tubelius> bye
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#1067 [07:01] <techkid6> poor guy....
#1068 [07:01] <techkid6> :(
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#1072 [07:06] <tubelius> Mojang should make some easy cloud service
#1073 [07:07] <tubelius> like you could turn on some options to save the worlds on Mojang's servers
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#1076 [07:10] <techkid6> Lets just add that to Realms
#1077 [07:11] <techkid6> like, an additional subscription, but, unlimited cloud storage
#1078 [07:11] <tubelius> ah, but doesn't realm save the worlds on some server already?
#1079 [07:11] <techkid6> Of course, it would only be able to detect world files (check level.dat) to ensure there is no foul play
#1080 [07:12] <techkid6> yeah, this would be just an addon
#1081 [07:12] <tubelius> so what's the difference?
#1082 [07:13] <techkid6> that is a small server, not file storage. you get one world generated without your choosing, you cannot use your own worlds
#1083 [07:13] <techkid6> you get 1 world with it, not as many as you need
#1084 [07:13] <tubelius> ah
#1085 [07:14] <techkid6> i honestly only think realms would be practical for 5 person servers, so, yeah
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#1087 [07:20] <MaattyIce> my keyboard won't work correctly in game.. i press W to go forward and it only works for a second and then stops.. what do i do?
#1088 [07:20] <tubelius> MaattyIce: is it a wireless or USB keyboard?
#1089 [07:20] <MaattyIce> it's wireless
#1090 [07:20] <tubelius> make sure the signal is good
#1091 [07:20] <tubelius> and batteries full
#1092 [07:21] <tubelius> try to move the receiver to another USB port
#1093 [07:21] <MaattyIce> ok i'll try
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#1102 [08:14] <c_joker> how to conect
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#1106 [08:19] <Backhash> hey guys
#1107 [08:19] <Backhash> im having issues with my server
#1108 [08:19] <Backhash> players on it are not dying
#1109 [08:19] <Backhash> losing their weapons upon equip
#1110 [08:19] <Backhash> and they cant interact with the world
#1111 [08:20] <Backhash> hepl plx
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#1117 [08:28] <Andrio> Is it laggy?
#1118 [08:29] <Backhash> sorry?
#1119 [08:29] <Backhash> its not
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#1122 [08:33] <tyteen4a03> Backhash, I would suspect permission
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#1124 [08:37] <zoo> Backhash ; please give us your plugin list
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#1126 [08:45] <tyteen4a03> zoo, note that we don't support modded Minecraft here
#1127 [08:45] <zoo> ok, sorry
#1128 [08:49] <Bismarc> zoo: Here's a link for a minecraft mod support http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/196-modded-client-support/
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#1134 [08:59] <zyngawow> Hello
#1135 [08:59] <zyngawow> Can anyone help me with MC on Linux loading as a black screen? I use AMD's Propietary drivers. It all worked fine until I updated LWJGL
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#1138 [09:12] <Morrolan> Then downgrade LWJGL again? ;)
#1139 [09:15] <zyngawow> Mojang's LWJGL has issues with linux :)
#1140 [09:17] <tyteen4a03> zyngawow, which version did you upgrade to?
#1141 [09:18] <Morrolan> There's probably versions between Mojang's and the latest, which has neither issues with sticky keys, nor leads to a blackscreen. :)
#1142 [09:20] <zyngawow> 2.8.5
#1143 [09:24] <zyngawow> I'm on mint, ATI propietary drivers
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#1145 [09:25] <tyteen4a03> zyngawow, try 2.8.4, or 2.9
#1146 [09:34] * frdmn|afk is now known as frdmn
#1147 [09:36] <zyngawow> 2.8.4 stays the same
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#1150 [09:53] <lol> my name is lol
#1151 [09:53] <lol> my name is lol
#1152 [09:54] <Lutzee> not for much longer
#1153 [09:54] * lol is now known as Guest87448
#1154 [09:54] <Lutzee> See :)
#1155 [09:54] <Guest87448> how do you make a toilet
#1156 [09:54] <Morrolan> Some water is a good start.
#1157 [09:54] <Morrolan> And a siphon! Else it gets smelly.
#1158 [09:55] <Morrolan> Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fdqXSA3Myc for inspiration.
#1159 [09:55] <VoxelHead> Massive Golden Toilet in Minecraft (working) ( by Sjokolata )
#1160 [09:55] <Guest87448> how should i make 1
#1161 [09:55] <Morrolan> With blocks. :)
#1162 [09:56] <Guest87448> do you have a video on how to make 1
#1163 [09:56] <_Rogue_> gee idk
#1164 [09:56] <_Rogue_> maybe the youtube link
#1165 [09:56] <_Rogue_> unless that's an actual toilet
#1166 [09:56] <Morrolan> You want a tutorial on how to build a *toilet*? :O
#1167 [09:56] <Guest87448> yes
#1168 [09:57] <Morrolan> Well, tough luck.
#1169 [09:57] <Bismarc> lol
#1170 [09:57] <Guest87448> meanie
#1171 [09:58] <Guest87448> how do u put minecraft on a tab for windows 8
#1172 [09:58] * Morrolan scratches head
#1172 [09:58] <_Rogue_> same as any other tab I'd assume
#1173 [09:58] <Morrolan> Like any other app, probably.
#1174 [09:58] <_Rogue_> you mean the start menu icons?
#1175 [09:58] * _Rogue_ o/\o Morrolan
#1175 [09:59] <Bismarc> What on the desktop?
#1176 [09:59] <Guest87448> either
#1177 [09:59] * Bismarc has a idea
#1177 [09:59] <Guest87448> it just goes when i log off
#1178 [09:59] <Bismarc> Ok go to your downloads folder (I've got a Windows 8)
#1179 [09:59] <Guest87448> what is your idea
#1180 [10:00] <Bismarc> Have you brought and downloaded the game?
#1181 [10:00] <Guest87448> yes
#1182 [10:00] <Guest87448> yes
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#1184 [10:01] <Bismarc> Wah?!
#1185 [10:01] * Bismarc thinks Guest87448 he's a jerk for leaving
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#1186 [10:02] <Morrolan> Your nick won't last any longer this time. :P
#1187 [10:02] <lol> i know but how to let it stay
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#1189 [10:02] <Morrolan> Can't, someone seems to have registered it already.
#1190 [10:03] <Morrolan> 'iuracivium'
#1191 [10:04] <Guest71056> so how do u put minecraft as a tab
#1192 [10:05] <Guest71056> on windows 8
#1193 [10:05] <Bismarc> Ok go to your downloads folder
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#1197 [10:07] <Bismarc> Guest71056: Do you know how do get to your download folder?
#1198 [10:07] <Bismarc> Guest71056: Do you know how do get to your download folder?
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#1203 [10:12] <dangus21> anyone here?
#1204 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1205 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> We're all gone. All dead.
#1206 [10:12] * GreyVulpine goes, "BRaaaaaaiinns..."
#1206 [10:13] <Bismarc> Just zobbies
#1207 [10:13] <Bismarc> zombies
#1208 [10:13] <dangus21> i'll leave this here... i downloaded minecraft and it downloads the packages and it says at the end done loading but doesnt actually start
#1209 [10:13] <dangus21> any clues on what to do?
#1210 [10:13] <Bismarc> see my typo error means I can't tyype good again
#1211 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> dangus21 - Are you trying the demo?
#1212 [10:14] <dangus21> demo? how so?
#1213 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> dangus21 - Have you purchased minecraft?
#1214 [10:14] <dangus21> yes i have
#1215 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> dangus21 - Alright. Then has minecraft ever worked for you on that computer before?
#1216 [10:14] <dangus21> ityes
#1217 [10:14] <dangus21> today even
#1218 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> Please follow these instructions then:
#1219 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> ??> dangus21 forceupdate
#1220 [10:14] <dangus21> but deleted the minecraft folder´
#1221 [10:14] <VoxelHead> dangus21: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1222 [10:14] <VoxelHead> dangus21: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1223 [10:15] <dangus21> so, force update?
#1224 [10:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#1225 [10:17] <dangus21> i tried it got this
#1226 [10:17] <dangus21> http://imageshack.us/a/img838/4739/capturadeecra20130421as.png http://imageshack.us/a/img715/4739/capturadeecra20130421as.png
#1227 [10:17] <dangus21> same thing basically
#1228 [10:18] <dangus21> i'm on a mac btw
#1229 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft folder you deleted, was it located at ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft ?
#1230 [10:18] <dangus21> yes it was
#1231 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Could you try http://www.minecraft.net/play ?
#1232 [10:19] <dangus21> here http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/4739/capturadeecra20130421as.png
#1233 [10:20] <dangus21> it says it misses a plug in
#1234 [10:20] <dangus21> it misses java
#1235 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Make sure java is installed and updated.
#1236 [10:21] <dangus21> http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4739/capturadeecra20130421as.png do i install?
#1237 [10:21] <Bismarc> I'm on your download page photo you haven't got java
#1238 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> dangus21 - Try minecraft on a different browser first. Doesn't look like java will work on Chrome on macs.
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#1241 [10:26] <dangus21> i tried on safari and doesn't work
#1242 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't work how?
#1243 [10:28] <dangus21> http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4739/capturadeecra20130421as.png
#1244 [10:29] <dangus21> do i need to install java 7?
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#1247 [10:30] <dangus21> guys?
#1248 [10:30] <Calinou> play using the downloadable client, save yourself $200 worth of hassle
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#1250 [10:31] <Debbie> I have loaded 1.5.1 on a Mac (our other two computers running minecraft are PCs). I've gotten it to the point where I've loaded it, can log in, and can see the LAN worlds hosted on the PCs, but I can't connect.
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#1253 [10:32] <dangus21> http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4739/capturadeecra20130421as.png now i get this
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#1255 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> See that error report? Please provide us with that copy via pastebiCoCom
#1256 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com
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#1259 [10:35] <bc> i cannot open minecraft and just bought it. cannot open java download.
#1260 [10:36] <bc> what do
#1261 [10:36] <bc> what do ?
#1262 [10:36] <Calinou> bc: almost any computer today has java preinstalled
#1263 [10:36] <Calinou> are you on a mac?
#1264 [10:36] <bc> windows vista
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#1266 [10:37] <dangus21> what about me? ):
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#1268 [10:37] <Debbie> I have loaded 1.5.1 on a MAC (other 2 computers are PC). I can log in and see the LAN worlds hosted on the PCs but can't connect.
#1269 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> dangus21 - again, please provide us with the full error report via pastebin.com
#1270 [10:38] <Bismarc> bc: http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml there you go java page and then therre will be two java's 32-bit or 64-bit download 64-bit
#1271 [10:39] <dangus21> on browser i got this http://pastebin.com/sWdJvnJQ
#1272 [10:39] <dangus21> my app stopt att
#1273 [10:39] <dangus21> *at the done loading
#1274 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Dangus21 - Looks like an issue with java 7 on macs. Could you try using java 6 instead?
#1275 [10:40] <Calinou> Debbie: do you have any firewall? disable them
#1276 [10:40] <dangus21> ok, will do
#1277 [10:42] <Debbie> working on disabling the firewall--Mac won't let me do it right now--may have to restart
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#1279 [10:43] <dangus21> with java 6 i got this
#1280 [10:43] <dangus21> http://pastebin.com/nGgHER02
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#1282 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> dangus21 - Looks like it's still using java 7: "Java Version: 1.7.0_21, Oracle Corporation"
#1283 [10:45] <dangus21> wait a bit
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#1285 [10:46] <dangus21> i cant seem to unistall 7 and go back to 6
#1286 [10:46] <dangus21> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5559?viewlocale i hjave even followed these steps
#1287 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Try updating lwjgl then.
#1288 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> You can find the latest nightly build of 2.9.0 from: http://ci.newdawnsoftware.com/job/LWJGL-git-dist/
#1289 [10:48] <dangus21> http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4739/capturadeecra20130421as.png
#1290 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> Once you download lwjgl using the "lwjgl-2.9.0.zip" link, you will need to overwrite the files located in your ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin and ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin/natives folders
#1291 [10:51] <dangus21> but in my mc folder i only have this http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4739/capturadeecra20130421as.png
#1292 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> Could you check the bin folder?
#1293 [10:53] <dangus21> i cant open the minecraft.jar btw
#1294 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to
#1295 [10:53] <dangus21> http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4739/capturadeecra20130421as.png
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#1297 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> That looks fine there.
#1298 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Go to: http://ci.newdawnsoftware.com/job/LWJGL-git-dist/
#1299 [10:54] <dangus21> so, what do i do ?
#1300 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Download the lwjgl-2.9.0.zip
#1301 [10:54] <dangus21> i have it
#1302 [10:55] <Debbie> I disabled firewall for 1.5.1 MAC problem (Can't connect to LAN world hosted by 1 of 2 PCs. Other PC connects to it fine).
#1303 [10:55] <Debbie> Still doesn't work
#1304 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Open the lwjgl-2.9.0.zip up. Go inside to find 4 folders. Move over all the files located in the jar folder to the bin folder inside your minecraft folder
#1305 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Move all the files located in the natives folder, to your natives folder inside the bin folder.
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#1309 [10:57] <dangus21> done and done
#1310 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Then try minecraft again
#1311 [10:58] <dangus21> same problem
#1312 [10:58] <dangus21> done loading and stops
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#1322 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Then I'm not really sure how else to help you. This is a typical error of lwjgl, not liking the latest java 7 on macs. People have usually solved it by downgrading to java 6.
#1323 [11:01] <dangus21> now it passes the done loading screen
#1324 [11:02] <dangus21> but the mc screen goes black
#1325 [11:02] <dangus21> how do i downgrade to 6?
#1326 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> Seems like the instructions you tried, were meant to do just that: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5559
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#1334 [11:17] <kay> hello, i hsvr s wuestion..
#1335 [11:18] <kay> i just bought the game, and now it won't let me log in..
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#1338 [11:19] <kayla_> i just bought an account, and now i can't log in.. can someone please help me?
#1339 [11:20] <Morrolan> Did you choose a Minecraft username already?
#1340 [11:20] <Morrolan> (You should get an e-mail with a link where you can do so.)
#1341 [11:20] <kayla_> yes, Didi1488
#1342 [11:20] <kayla_> I filled it out, and it still wont let me log in. and now I can't seem to log in to anything, even with me email
#1343 [11:21] <Morrolan> What happens when you try to sign in, then?
#1344 [11:21] <kayla_> it says email or password is incorrect. I can't even log into the mojang site
#1345 [11:22] <kayla_> I also tried to reset my password in case I forgot. I received an email to reset it, but still can't log in.
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#1347 [11:22] <Morrolan> Can you sign in to account.mojang.com/login using your e-mail and password?
#1348 [11:22] <Morrolan> https://account.mojang.com/login that is.
#1349 [11:22] <kayla_> yeah, I can now
#1350 [11:23] <Morrolan> Okay. Do the same credentials work on https://minecraft.net/login ?
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#1352 [11:23] <Morrolan> (User your E-Mail, even though it asks you for your username)
#1353 [11:24] <kayla_> okay, I can log into that now. it doesn't seem to have my username registered though
#1354 [11:24] <Morrolan> What do you mean? :)
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#1356 [11:25] <kayla_> My username isn't listed under my profile
#1357 [11:25] <kayla_> Do you think I have to re-register?
#1358 [11:25] <Morrolan> Hmm. On https://account.mojang.com/me is Minecraft listed under 'My Games', and does it have a username associated with it?
#1359 [11:25] <Morrolan> (Should look something like this: http://morrolan.ch/minecrafthelp/mojang_my_games.png)
#1360 [11:26] <kayla_> yes, it is.
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#1363 [11:28] <Morrolan> Well, then that seems to have gone fine. Did you download the launcher from http://minecraft.net/download already?
#1364 [11:28] <Miranda> I have previously bought the game but Minecraft doesn't register it and I forgot my username and password. What can I do?
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#1366 [11:28] <Kitty> having trouble with minecraft demo
#1367 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> Kitty - The demo only works at www.minecraft.net/demo
#1368 [11:28] <Miranda> No. The full game.
#1369 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> It will not work on macs, unfortunately.
#1370 [11:28] <Morrolan> Miranda: https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request allows you to reset the game.
#1371 [11:28] <Morrolan> err, the password.
#1372 [11:28] <Morrolan> As for the username, there's a link too, somewhere.
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#1374 [11:28] <Kitty> nothing like that
#1375 [11:29] <Kitty> theres a bug i guess
#1376 [11:29] <kayla_> yep, when I try to log into the launcher it says log in with my mojang account. my username doesn't seem to register
#1377 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Kitty - What happens when you try to use the demo?
#1378 [11:29] <Morrolan> kayla_: And when you sign in with e-mail address and password, what happens?
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#1380 [11:29] <Morrolan> kayla_: I.e. what kind of error message (if any) do you get?
#1381 [11:29] <Kitty> i get in ans then the camera wont move.
#1382 [11:30] <Kitty> it keeps opening the pause menu on its own
#1383 [11:30] <Kitty> and it knows im clicking but its not saying im doing anything
#1384 [11:30] <Miranda> How do I fix it? I have the reciept of purchase.
#1385 [11:30] <kayla_> hmm, interesting... it let me sign in this time. This is new. So, I shouldn't use my username to log in?
#1386 [11:31] <Morrolan> kayla_: Nope, you have to use the e-mail address, it's a security measurement. :)
#1387 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> Kitty - Sounds like it's losing focus of the window. Make sure you're not clicking outside of the window, or hitting your alt key by accident
#1388 [11:31] <Morrolan> kayla_: It's so, when you play online, people can not bruteforce your password.
#1389 [11:32] <Kitty> im not clicking outside the window. clicking on a tree in the middle of the screen
#1390 [11:32] <kayla_> ohhh, is that a new feature?
#1391 [11:32] <Morrolan> kayla_: Has been the case since they introduced Mojang accounts, yea.
#1392 [11:33] <kayla_> well, thanks for your help, Morrolan! Have a great day!
#1393 [11:33] <Morrolan> kayla_: You too. :)
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#1395 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> Kitty - Are you on windows?
#1396 [11:33] <Kitty> yes
#1397 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> Close down minecraft. Head to your start menu, in the search bar/Run command, type in: %appdata% and press enter. Find the .minecraft folder. Go inside. Delete the options.txt file and try minecraft again
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#1399 [11:35] <orhunt1> I cant start minecraft 13w16a on my mac it gives a crash report , but i saw on someones video that 13w16a was working fine on his mac
#1400 [11:36] <Kitty> appears to be working fine now. thanks!
#1401 [11:36] <orhunt1> am i doing something wrong or 13w16a doesn't works on macs ?
#1402 [11:37] <orhunt1> ?
#1403 [11:39] <Morrolan> ?? buglist
#1404 [11:39] <Morrolan> ?? bug/list
#1405 [11:39] <Morrolan> *sigh*
#1406 [11:39] <Morrolan> Where did that darn factoid go to.
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#1411 [11:40] <Kitty> ahhh, still having issues with the pause menu. not even touching the keyboard and it pauses itself every few seconds
#1412 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Kitty - Try a different browser
#1413 [11:43] <Kitty> im using google chrome. could that be the problem?
#1414 [11:43] <orhunt1> Is minecraft 13w16a working on macs?
#1415 [11:43] <Morrolan> Very few of those who are active in here use Macs, orhunt1. :)
#1416 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Kitty - I'm not sure. Try Firefox, or opera.
#1417 [11:43] <orhunt1> :/
#1418 [11:43] <Morrolan> That being said, Mojang's bug tracker doesn't have a category for 13w16 yet, so it's hard to check whether others have that issue too.
#1419 [11:43] <Kitty> ok, ill give it a shot. thanks a bunch again!
#1420 [11:43] <Morrolan> If previous snapshots worked for you, then just wait for the next one, I suppose. ;)
#1421 [11:44] <Morrolan> (And support a report on their tracker, once there's a category for that snapshot)
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#1423 [11:44] <Morrolan> s/support/submit/
#1424 [11:44] <Syer> Morrolan meant to say: (And submit a report on their tracker, once there's a category for that snapshot)
#1425 [11:46] <Kitty> no, its still pausing on its own in a different browser
#1426 [11:47] <Kitty> maybe i should just stop being cheap and buy the game :P
#1427 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Try the downloadable launcher, choose the 'play offline' option.
#1428 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> There's apparently some kind of application on your end that's constantly stealing the focus away from the java applet
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#1430 [11:51] <jacerylan> i just purchased minecraft for iOS and downloaded the link and file. It says file corrupt and cannot open and move to trash. Anyone else have that problem?
#1431 [11:51] <Morrolan> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1432 [11:51] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, disable Gatekeeper entirely by following the instructions at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#1433 [11:51] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: This is what the gatekeeper dialog looks like: http://cargo.dcurt.is.s3.amazonaws.com/unsigned.jpg
#1434 [11:51] <Morrolan> Try VoxelHead's instructions. :)
#1435 [11:52] <Morrolan> By the way, this is Minecraft for OSX, *not* for iOS. :)
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#1438 [11:59] <todde> first of all thanks to those that help, I managed to load win7 on a laptop to get Minecraft to play
#1439 [11:59] <todde> now i have 2 laptops at home and need to get them join on the same game
#1440 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Do you have two seperate accounts?
#1441 [11:59] <todde> i can't get the LAN to work at all
#1442 [12:00] <todde> yes
#1443 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Try using the dedicated server at minecraft.net/download
#1444 [12:00] <todde> yes
#1445 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Load the server on one computer, use that computer's ip address to connect with the other computer
#1446 [12:00] <todde> i can get the server to work on one and create the game but, the other pc never finds
#1447 [12:01] <todde> i have read all of the wiki stuff and cant get it to work
#1448 [12:02] <todde> i am a dad and have 2 boys killing me over this
#1449 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Have you ran Minecraft_server.exe on one computer?
#1450 [12:02] <todde> yes, i start the server and then join that server with the same PC
#1451 [12:02] <todde> using the direct connect
#1452 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> And are you using the correct ip address on the other computer?
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#1454 [12:03] <todde> i think so
#1455 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Please tell us how you got that ip address
#1456 [12:04] <rach_> my minecraft keeps crashing and saying that it couldn't render the screen
#1457 [12:05] <todde> command prompt, ipconfig, the IPv4 number
#1458 [12:05] <rach_> what do i do?
#1459 [12:05] <rach_> anyone?
#1460 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> todde - That looks right.. perhaps you've got some sort of security software on that computer that's blocking the connection?
#1461 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> rach_ - Please provide us with the full error report via www.pastebin.com
#1462 [12:05] <rach_> hello???
#1463 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> rach_ - Hi. Please give us the full error report
#1464 [12:06] <todde> nothing other than win7 is loaded
#1465 [12:07] <todde> i do have a wireless network of course
#1466 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> todde - Try disabling windows firewall and trying again
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#1470 [12:11] <todde> no luck
#1471 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> todde - Do you see any connection attempts on the server's console?
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#1473 [12:12] <todde> no, it just times out
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#1477 [12:14] <Miranda> Help!
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#1479 [12:14] <engineer4112> well i cant load up minecraft on my windows
#1480 [12:14] <Miranda> I bought Minecraft a little while ago and forgot my information and Mojang doesn't register that I've bought.
#1481 [12:15] <Miranda> *it.
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#1483 [12:15] <hazardous> how do i change my user name i bought an account the person was smart to me and give me a bad name
#1484 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> hazardous - you cannot.
#1485 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Miranda - Provide Mojang with your transaction ID so that they can look up your account for you. You can email them from:
#1486 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> ??> Miranda mojang/email
#1487 [12:15] <VoxelHead> Miranda: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#1489 [12:16] <hazardous> so basiclly i got charged for a bogus name
#1490 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> hazardous - Unfortunately, Mojang doesn't support purchases not made through their own store
#1491 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> todde - Could I try looking at your setup through a remote desktop support program?
#1492 [12:17] <Littlelegs> I have just recently downloaded minecraft and it is running very slowly on my laptop I have checked the requirements and I meet the minimum I don't know what to do please help
#1493 [12:17] <hazardous> and if it was u would be able to change the username
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#1495 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> hazardous - No.
#1496 [12:18] <Miranda> Thank you!
#1497 [12:18] <hazardous> and do you set up the username or does the purchaser
#1498 [12:18] <Littlelegs> Can someone please help me
#1499 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> hazardous - The purchaser
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#1501 [12:19] <hazardous> ok thanks have a nice day
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#1503 [12:20] <todde> I would love the help but, i am now late for lunch, i will have to do this later, thanks again
#1504 [12:20] <todde> I would love the help but, i am now late for lunch, i will have to do this later, thanks again
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#1506 [12:21] <Littlelegs> My game is really slow and I can't cope PLEASE HELP ME
#1507 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> Littlelegs - Unfortunately, there's little we can suggest. Try turning down some of the detail levels in minecraft's video options
#1508 [12:22] <Littlelegs> And how do you do that
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#1510 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> Littlelegs - Go to the options menu inside minecraft. Go to the video options. Turn some of the options down
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#1512 [12:25] <Littlelegs> Ill try that if not ill try my other laptop if not ill just get a refund
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#1515 [12:28] <AllrikRocks> hello, i just bought minecraft and was able to install the minecraft installer cube on my desktop but it wont start anything. I disabled my antivirus as well. can someone help?
#1516 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> Make sure java is installed and working
#1517 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
#1518 [12:32] <AllrikRocks> Java is installed. when I double click the installer it calculates for 3 seconds and then nothing happens
#1519 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Completely uninstall java and reinstall it
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#1521 [12:37] <eddy876> jjj my minecraft is crashing it said something about including a copy of the file?
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#1523 [12:38] <cookiesyum> are you guys still mad at me :3
#1524 [12:38] <cookiesyum> anyone there?
#1525 [12:38] <cookiesyum> hey xales
#1526 [12:39] <cookiesyum> anyone there plox reply
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#1528 [12:40] <Morrolan> Woof.
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#1530 [12:41] <cookiesyum> hey i'm getting a new gpu today and i was wondering if someone can tell me if my cpu can run it
#1531 [12:41] <Lutzee> What CPU?
#1532 [12:41] <cookiesyum> i can't find the requirements anywhere
#1533 [12:42] <cookiesyum> Radeon HD 7970 :)
#1534 [12:42] <Lutzee> CPU not GPU]
#1535 [12:42] <cookiesyum> AMD A10-5700
#1536 [12:42] <Lutzee> What CPU do you have (For the record thats your proccessor, CPU does not stand for computer)
#1537 [12:42] <Lutzee> Eh
#1538 [12:42] <cookiesyum> 10G RAM
#1539 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> cookiesyum - What motherboard do you have? What power supply do you have?
#1540 [12:43] <Lutzee> Its okay
#1541 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Do you have enough power for the new GPU?
#1542 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Are there enough power connectors to hook up your new GPU?
#1543 [12:43] <Lutzee> but yes, now to check the rest of your PC because That GPU take a lot of power to run
#1544 [12:43] <cookiesyum> Yes i'm getting a a a new psu
#1545 [12:44] <cookiesyum> okay here
#1546 [12:44] <cookiesyum> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c03680502&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=5330777
#1547 [12:44] <Lutzee> Er
#1548 [12:44] <cookiesyum> wut
#1549 [12:44] <Lutzee> You sure the 7970 you are getting will physically fit in the case?
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#1551 [12:44] <cookiesyum> lol i don't know?
#1552 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> Uh, I don't think it will
#1553 [12:45] <cookiesyum> .....
#1554 [12:45] <Lutzee> Yeah, 7970s are massive
#1555 [12:45] <cookiesyum> what
#1556 [12:45] <cookiesyum> ...
#1557 [12:45] <cookiesyum> are you saying i need a new case
#1558 [12:46] <Morrolan> Or a smaller GPU.
#1559 [12:46] <cookiesyum> but i want a powerful one
#1560 [12:46] <Lutzee> Something like a 7850 would be much better and much much cheaper
#1561 [12:46] <Lutzee> You'll get bottlenecked by the CPU a fair amount anyway
#1562 [12:46] <Morrolan> Given that this case contains a microATX board, it's probably not too big indeed. :P
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#1564 [12:47] <Lutzee> Its 16.5" deep
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#1566 [12:48] <Lutzee> not even that
#1567 [12:48] <Morrolan> Oh, you found actual case specs on that page? Must've missed those.
#1568 [12:48] <Morrolan> Ah, yea, way down the page. Ctrl-F to the rescue.
#1569 [12:48] <cookiesyum> are you cereal
#1570 [12:49] <Morrolan> Ce-whatnow?
#1571 [12:49] <cookiesyum> so what do i get then? i wanna play maxed out
#1572 [12:49] <cookiesyum> 60+ fps
#1573 [12:49] <Lutzee> get a 7850
#1574 [12:49] <cookiesyum> so anything that is really powerful won't even fit in my case wow
#1575 [12:49] <Lutzee> I have one, i get 200FPS
#1576 [12:50] <cookiesyum> on what
#1577 [12:50] <Lutzee> Standard max graphics
#1578 [12:50] <cookiesyum> what games
#1579 [12:50] <Lutzee> minecraft..
#1580 [12:50] <Shadowpatate999> Hi mens, i got a little problem : I updated my java 6 to java 7 and i got, AWFULL runs out of memory now, i tried the command with the memory found in the article "Minecraft Troubleshouting -> Minecraft has run out of memory" and i get that message : javaw is not recognized as an internal or external command, an executable or a command file. It's the same with all the commands on the Web, i got 8Go RAM on my pc ... Help please :'(
#1581 [12:50] <cookiesyum> i'm talking about playing games like battlefield 3 maxed out
#1582 [12:51] <Lutzee> cookiesyum: your CPU will bottleneck in battlefield, if you are seriously wanting a gaming PC running all games on max, i hope you have $2500 saved up
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#1584 [12:51] <cookiesyum> my cpu isn't good?
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#1586 [12:52] <Lutzee> Not for hardcore gaming
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#1590 [12:53] <cookiesyum> so in order to play modern games on high settings i gotta replace the whole freaking thing?
#1591 [12:53] <Shadowpatate999> Nobody can help me ? :(
#1592 [12:53] <Lutzee> one second Shadowpatate999
#1593 [12:54] <cookiesyum> f my life
#1594 [12:54] <Lutzee> Shadowpatate999: make sure you installed the 64bit version of java 7
#1595 [12:54] <Shadowpatate999> I got windows 7 32 Bits
#1596 [12:54] <Shadowpatate999> Can i install it ?
#1597 [12:55] <Lutzee> You have 64 bit windows
#1598 [12:55] <Shadowpatate999> Program files(x86) is not 32 ?
#1599 [12:55] <cookiesyum> can i fit a amd radeon hd 7870 in it
#1600 [12:55] <cookiesyum> wait is the amd radeon hd 7850 better ill just get that
#1601 [12:55] <Lutzee> Shadowpatate999: You also have a Program Files folder (non x86) for 64bit programs
#1602 [12:56] <Shadowpatate999> Okay, thanks, i'll try with it
#1603 [12:57] <Shadowpatate999> When i download the last version of Java, isn't it a 64Bits version ?
#1604 [12:57] <cookiesyum> Lutzee: should i get the 7850 or is the 7870 better
#1605 [12:57] <Lutzee> not always Shadowpatate999
#1606 [12:57] <Lutzee> ??> Shadowpatate999 java/1.7
#1607 [12:57] <VoxelHead> Shadowpatate999: (java/1.7) Please note that Java 7 is known to be imcompatible with Minecraft in many cases. Unless otherwise required by a helper, please use Java 6 instead. See ?? java/1.6
#1608 [12:57] <VoxelHead> Shadowpatate999: (java/1.7) You can get Java 1.7 for almost any platform here: http://is.gd/mc_j7
#1609 [12:57] <Lutzee> cookiesyum: find one that will actually fit in your case
#1610 [12:58] <cookiesyum> lol
#1611 [13:00] <cookiesyum> i'm going to put fire crackers inside it and throw a Molotov coktale at it yolo going to just buy a new pc
#1612 [13:00] <cookiesyum> should i put on youtube
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#1614 [13:01] <Morrolan> Dork.
#1615 [13:01] <Morrolan> Kealper: Can we have AuBot auto-kick for 'yolo'? ;)
#1616 [13:03] <Calinou> Morrolan: YOLO
#1617 [13:03] <Calinou> so do it
#1618 [13:03] * Morrolan kicked Calinou from #minecrafthelp (Reason: alinou :As you wish. <3)
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#1620 [13:04] <Morrolan> Calinou - Where did you go to? :o
#1621 [13:04] <Calinou> nowhere, I just wasn't looking at this channel
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#1623 [13:04] <Calinou> xchat doesn't make it very obvious when you're kicked, it'd be better if the channel name was grayed out
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#1625 [13:05] <Morrolan> Mhm. I believe mine will color it red, since it's a highlight.
#1626 [13:05] <joshjosh04> how can u change your minecraft username
#1627 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> joshjosh04 - You cannot
#1628 [13:06] <joshjosh04> ugg when i made my account i didnt know what it meant so i put my full first and last name as my username
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#1630 [13:08] <joshjosh04> why wouldnt they make some way so that u can change your name or tell you this will be displayed in game for everyone to see
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#1632 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/928638-minecraft-usernames
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#1637 [13:12] <joshjosh04> thats dumb but thx for the help greyvulpine
#1638 [13:12] <Guest90328> Hello I'm running Minecraft on a MAC, Can't enter game once logged in... Screen offers update?
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#1644 [13:14] <Debbie> I have recently added minecraft to my husband's Mac. It's already loaded on 2 PCs. The PCs are currently playing in a LAN world. The Mac can see the LAN world, but is timing out on connecting. I have turned off the Firewall.
#1645 [13:18] <Guest90328> Hello? I'm running Minecraft on a MAC... Once through the login page can't access.. Screen offers update but crashes?
#1646 [13:21] <Guest90328> last time I cleared some files and re-installed... worked for a while. Can't recall which files to delete?
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#1650 [13:29] <Guest82469> How do i prevent my Minecraft game from Crashing
#1651 [13:29] <Guest82469> It keeps on closing automaticly
#1652 [13:30] <Guest82469> Hello?
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#1655 [13:33] <dan1> i can load up the minecraft launcher on windows
#1656 [13:33] <dan1> cant*
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#1662 [13:38] <mikeranger40> hey
#1663 [13:39] <mikeranger40> when i click play in browser it passes the mojang screen and then just turns white and doesnt do anything
#1664 [13:39] <mikeranger40> what should i do
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#1666 [13:41] <Boreeas> ??> mikeranger40 scold/pm
#1667 [13:41] <VoxelHead> mikeranger40: (scold/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1668 [13:41] <Boreeas> ??> mikeranger40 patience
#1669 [13:41] <VoxelHead> mikeranger40: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1670 [13:41] <VoxelHead> mikeranger40: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
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#1684 [14:14] <NikBrown> after downloading a mod from skydaz it doesn't load minecraft, it just has a black screen. How do I fix this so that I have the mod?
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#1689 [14:16] <MATT3RKILL3R> i am Matthew's father. i just got him this computer and have been trying for two days to make what should be a simple application function. I am very frustrated!
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#1693 [14:18] <MATT3RKILL3R> What I need to know is how to uninstall your app completely from his computer so that I can reinstall it. I have had to do that with Java and the driver program for his video card (Radeon 9250)
#1694 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#1695 [14:19] <tubelius> ??> MATT3RKILL3R win/reinst
#1696 [14:19] <VoxelHead> MATT3RKILL3R: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1697 [14:19] <VoxelHead> MATT3RKILL3R: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1698 [14:20] <tubelius> Windows
#1699 [14:20] <MATT3RKILL3R> iXP 32
#1700 [14:20] <MATT3RKILL3R> No i
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#1703 [14:22] * zoo_HL ++
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#1704 [14:22] <Ch1oe> Someone I need help with downloading mods :( i want the Lion King mod
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#1706 [14:23] <Ch1oe> and i have 1.5.1
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#1708 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Ch1oe - With the amount of mods available out there, it's virtually impossible to provide support for all the mods, as each mod has different requirements and installation instructions.
#1709 [14:24] <rymate1234> ?? Mods
#1710 [14:24] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1711 [14:24] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1712 [14:24] <Ch1oe> I just want the Lion king 1.5.1 mod
#1713 [14:25] <tubelius> Ch1oe: Google it
#1714 [14:26] <Ch1oe> i try and download the folders and the mod but it doesnt work i dont know o.-
#1715 [14:27] <Ch1oe> like. REALLLLLLLLLLLY bad
#1716 [14:27] <tubelius> Ch1oe: ask the developer of the mod, this channel is just for original Minecraft support
#1717 [14:28] <Ch1oe> ?
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#1719 [14:29] <rymate1234> ....what
#1720 [14:29] <rymate1234> I sometimes despair for the human race
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#1728 [14:38] <panaramaman> my sound in minecraft doesn't work, and i play in 1.5.1 with sound and music at 100%
#1729 [14:39] <panaramaman> what do i do?
#1730 [14:39] <panaramaman> never mind
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#1732 [14:39] <kusanagi> lol
#1733 [14:39] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1733 [14:39] <kusanagi> 5 bucks says the guy's speakers were off
#1734 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Nope. Sounds take a little while to download for the first time
#1735 [14:40] <MATT3RKILL3R> K so it is unistalled and now reinstalled. i am guessing it is now correct. Still doesn't work though. I see online that open GL and runtime (my current issue) are regular problems for many people. I have updated, uninstalled software and just generally futsed around with this for two days now. Other companies build software to aid their customers with making their software function correctly. is this not a doable thing?
#1736 [14:40] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: They download in the background?
#1737 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - Yes
#1738 [14:40] <Morrolan> Ah. :)
#1739 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> MATT3RKILL3R - I'm pretty sure your computer, running the Radeon 9250, does not meet the minimum requirements to run minecraft. The 9250 does not support the minimum OpenGL standard that minecraft uses.
#1740 [14:41] <MATT3RKILL3R> i guess i will have to take my son's computer to the store and have them do this. How ridiculous. Other software just runs or it at least tells you it can't and why not!
#1741 [14:42] <MATT3RKILL3R> HMM. I had it running for an hour yesterday with said hardware. A small temporary change and it stopped.
#1742 [14:43] <MATT3RKILL3R> I will look at the requirements again.
#1743 [14:43] <MATT3RKILL3R> that is if I could find them!
#1744 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Even if you do get minecraft working now, the next 1.6 update for minecraft will raise the minimum OpenGL requirement to version 2.0, which your card does not support.
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#1746 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Rather typical for hardware that's running on about a decade old, to not support the latest and greatest games.
#1747 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> ?? requirements
#1748 [14:45] <VoxelHead> requirements: Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements, which are belied by its retro style. http://is.gd/mc_requirements
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#1750 [14:46] <MATT3RKILL3R> "Even if you do get minecraft working now, the next 1.6 update for minecraft will raise the minimum OpenGL requirement to version 2.0" marvelous! This game is such a great feat of cgi ingenuity. What card would you recommend then?
#1751 [14:47] <rymate1234> MATT3RKILL3R: Anything from the last 2 years
#1752 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> There wouldn't be a modern card that would fit in that computer, as that computer is going on 10 years old (or older now). It's still using a legacy AGP slot, which no modern card is compatible with
#1753 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> You would be better off looking for a new computer altogether.
#1754 [14:48] <MATT3RKILL3R> Cool. So I should be able to go to the store buy a new card, install it and this should work. Correct?
#1755 [14:48] <kusanagi> Wow, I remember my 9250.. was a piece of shit.
#1756 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> MATT3RKILL3R - No.
#1757 [14:48] <rymate1234> MATT3RKILL3R: No
#1758 [14:49] <rymate1234> Listen to GreyVulpine, im being a noob
#1759 [14:49] <MATT3RKILL3R> K. thanks.
#1760 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> They've stopped producing AGP cards back in.. oh, 2004-2005.
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#1763 [14:53] <rymate1234> People still use computers that old?
#1764 [14:53] <rymate1234> how do they last that long o.o
#1765 [14:54] <rymate1234> I've had my laptop for 2 1/2 years and its hdd is almost failing
#1766 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Not used as heavily.
#1767 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Could be that they passed it down to their children, still expecting them to run at 100%, and all the modern games.
#1768 [14:54] <jules> the 5770 is agp
#1769 [14:56] <jules> hard to find though
#1770 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Wait, what?
#1771 [14:56] <jules> yeah, or maybe the 5570. they made an agp version
#1772 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Huh, well then
#1773 [14:56] <jules> that's the best agp you can find, i think.
#1774 [14:57] <jules> would that run minecraft well?
#1775 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> If you can find it in AGP, possibly?
#1776 [14:59] <jules> hehe ok
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#1778 [14:59] <jules> my cuz has an agp board and he likes minecraft. i need a pci-e.. but im broke atm
#1779 [15:00] <jules> but my integrated i915 runs it ok.
#1780 [15:00] <rymate1234> I need a new had but I'm broke at the moment
#1781 [15:00] * GreyVulpine winces
#1781 [15:00] <rymate1234> *hdd
#1782 [15:00] <rymate1234> I could afford a cheap 40GB one though
#1783 [15:00] <Lutzee> To put it bluntly, you can build an acceptable PC that will run minecraft for ~$400
#1784 [15:00] <Debbie> I loaded minecraft 1.5.1 on on my husband's Mac. I also have it on two PCs. The two PCs are currently in a LAN world. The Mac can see the LAN world but times out on connection. The Firewall is off.
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#1786 [15:03] <xales> Debbie: Are they all connected to the Internet in the same way?
#1787 [15:03] <xales> (same wireless network, or all plugged in to the same router?)
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#1789 [15:03] <Debbie> Yes. Same network and router
#1790 [15:03] <xales> Are they all connected wirelessly?
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#1792 [15:04] <olidemo87> i log in to connect to the game but the page stays clear.. what can i do to solve the problem ?
#1793 [15:05] <Debbie> Upstairs PC is wireless. Downstairs PC and MAC are hard wired. Upstairs PC is the one sharing
#1794 [15:05] <xales> olidemo87: What do you mean, stays clear? Does Minecraft get stuck on a black screen?
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#1796 [15:05] <olidemo87> yes
#1797 [15:05] <xales> Debbie: The PC is able to connect to it, but the Mac is not?
#1798 [15:05] <xales> olidemo87: Has Minecraft worked before?
#1799 [15:05] <olidemo87> stays black and cannot continue to anything
#1800 [15:05] <olidemo87> yes it has worked before
#1801 [15:06] <Debbie> Yes. The two PCs are currently playing in the LAN world hosted by the upstairs PC. Mac can see it, but can't connect.
#1802 [15:06] <xales> olidemo87: Did you try to install any mods or texture packs?
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#1804 [15:06] <olidemo87> i dont know what that is
#1805 [15:06] <xales> ??> olidemo87 forceupdate
#1806 [15:06] <VoxelHead> olidemo87: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1807 [15:06] <VoxelHead> olidemo87: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1808 [15:06] <xales> Debbie: Do you know how to get to System Preferences on your Mac?
#1809 [15:07] <Debbie> Yes
#1810 [15:07] <xales> Okay, open that.
#1811 [15:07] <xales> Go to Network.
#1812 [15:07] <olidemo87> its not a mac its pc
#1813 [15:07] <xales> olidemo87: I'm not talking to you
#1814 [15:07] <xales> olidemo87: Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#1815 [15:07] <Debbie> I'm there
#1816 [15:07] <Guest54719> Can you help me?
#1817 [15:07] <xales> Debbie: Under Status, it should say something like "is connected to X with the IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
#1818 [15:07] <xales> Debbie: What does it say the IP address is?
#1819 [15:08] <xales> Guest54719: Only if you tell us what you need help with.
#1820 [15:08] <Lutzee> Guest54719: What seems to be the problem?
#1821 [15:08] <Guest54719> I bought MC and downloaded mincraft
#1822 [15:08] <Guest54719> Logged in and screens stays in "Minecraft downloaded"notheing happens after that
#1823 [15:09] <Lutzee> Guest54719: What antivirus do you use?
#1824 [15:09] <Debbie> 192.168.0.2
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#1826 [15:09] <Guest54719> microsoft sucurity essentials -> Real time = off now
#1827 [15:10] <olidemo87> theres no option above the login button
#1828 [15:10] <xales> Debbie: Okay - now, we need to check the IP address on the computer hosting it, which is a bit harder. It needs to start with the same first 3 sections, or the LAN more won't work (needs to start with 192.168.0)
#1829 [15:10] <xales> olidemo87: What's your Minecraft username?
#1830 [15:10] <olidemo87> olidemo87
#1831 [15:10] <Debbie> Pretty sure it does, but I'll check
#1832 [15:11] <xales> olidemo87: Re-download Minecraft from http://minecraft.net/download
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#1834 [15:12] <Guest54719> I downloaded it, logged in next screen says: "Done Loading"Nothing happens after that
#1835 [15:13] <xales> ??> Guest54719 forceupdate
#1836 [15:13] <VoxelHead> Guest54719: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1837 [15:13] <VoxelHead> Guest54719: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1838 [15:14] <N3xt_0n_K1n> I just bought minecraft for the pc and have only been on 5 mins when I got a crash report. Anyone know where to report it as the bug reporting site is down
#1839 [15:14] <Debbie> Yes, it did. It's 192.168.0.1
#1840 [15:14] <xales> N3xt_0n_K1n: Update your graphics card driver, it should fix the crash.
#1841 [15:15] <N3xt_0n_K1n> its a brand new card.
#1842 [15:15] <olidemo87> it tells me to download java... i do so but still doesnt work
#1843 [15:15] <xales> N3xt_0n_K1n: Make sure you have the latest driver for it.
#1844 [15:15] <N3xt_0n_K1n> k. thanks
#1845 [15:15] <xales> The one that came on the disk with it is not the latest one.
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#1848 [15:15] <xales> olidemo87: Uninstall every version of Java, then re-install Java.
#1849 [15:16] <xales> Debbie: Are you sure the firewalls (all of them, including Windows Firewall) on the hosting computer are off?
#1850 [15:16] <xales> Lutzee: can you take over, I have to go
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#1852 [15:16] <Debbie> Definitely off on MAC, pretty sure it's off on hosting PC, will check again.
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#1854 [15:17] <olidemo87> tells me it corrupted
#1855 [15:17] <Lutzee> .-.
#1856 [15:17] <Lutzee> ??> olidemo87 win/javara
#1857 [15:17] <VoxelHead> olidemo87: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1858 [15:17] <VoxelHead> olidemo87: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#1859 [15:18] <xales> olidemo87: Run Javara, click "Remove JRE" then reboot, then install Java from http://java.com/
#1860 [15:18] <xales> anyway
#1861 [15:18] <xales> I have to go
#1862 [15:18] <xales> Lutzee will help you all now :D
#1863 [15:18] <Lutzee> Shortly i have to go eat, pizza is waitingg for me
#1864 [15:18] <Debbie> Firewall on hosting PC is off
#1865 [15:19] <Debbie> ...always was. Not something I just changed.
#1866 [15:19] <Lutzee> Debbie: What antivirus is it on the host PC?
#1867 [15:19] <Debbie> ESET for all
#1868 [15:20] <Lutzee> Ahh.. that may be the problem .-.
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#1870 [15:21] <ultimatemegaman> Excuse me, I need to ask a question.
#1871 [15:21] <Lutzee> ?? ask
#1872 [15:21] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1873 [15:21] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1875 [15:21] <ultimatemegaman> I'm trying to host a Survival Server with a friend, pretty much.
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#1877 [15:21] <ultimatemegaman> How would I get it to work?
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#1879 [15:22] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, download the server software first
#1880 [15:22] <Lutzee> If you are on different internet lines then you will also ned to portforward
#1881 [15:22] <ultimatemegaman> On minecraft.net?
#1882 [15:22] <Extreme> http://minecraft.net/download
#1883 [15:22] <ultimatemegaman> Well, yes, there we go.
#1884 [15:22] <ultimatemegaman> It's on the bottom of the screen.
#1885 [15:22] <ultimatemegaman> Now what?
#1886 [15:22] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, make a new folder where you want to run the server
#1887 [15:23] <ultimatemegaman> Okay, right.
#1888 [15:23] <Extreme> then drag the exe / jar into the folder, then run to watch the magic
#1889 [15:23] <ultimatemegaman> Done, it's on the Desktop.
#1890 [15:23] <Lutzee> Debbie: Yes, it seems to be ESET causing the problems, even though it may tell you its disabled there are still background things happening.
#1891 [15:24] <Lutzee> Looking at answer 2 here may help though its not very detailed http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130410130740AAxgJ44
#1892 [15:24] <ultimatemegaman> The spawn area is being prepared...
#1893 [15:24] <ultimatemegaman> It's done, what do I do now?
#1894 [15:24] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, ok did it generate a bunch of files?
#1895 [15:25] <Debbie> okay thanks. I'll use that as my jumping off point to explore a solution.
#1896 [15:25] <ultimatemegaman> Yes, I can list a few: world; banned-ip; banned-players;ops;server;server.log.lck
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#1898 [15:26] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, now open minecraft and in IP, put "localhost" then try connecting
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#1900 [15:26] <josmo12> I can't login
#1901 [15:26] <ultimatemegaman> Right, I'll do that now.
#1902 [15:26] <Extreme> josmo12, what error do you get?
#1903 [15:26] <ultimatemegaman> Direct connect?
#1904 [15:26] <josmo12> too many attempts login failed
#1905 [15:27] <josmo12> yes
#1906 [15:27] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, yes
#1907 [15:27] <josmo12> mojang
#1908 [15:27] <Extreme> josmo12, do you remember your login information?
#1909 [15:27] <ultimatemegaman> No errors, it loaded successfully.
#1910 [15:27] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, do you have a router?
#1911 [15:28] <josmo12> i think my password is openup11
#1912 [15:28] <ultimatemegaman> Yes, for Virgin media, it's in my room.
#1913 [15:28] <josmo12> is that right?
#1914 [15:28] <ultimatemegaman> It's what I use to do all the internet.
#1915 [15:28] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, go here and folllow the instrctions: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Port_forwarding
#1916 [15:28] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, go here and folllow the instrctions: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Port_forwarding
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#1918 [15:28] <ultimatemegaman> Thanks.
#1919 [15:28] <Extreme> .paid josmo12
#1920 [15:28] <Syer> Extreme: true
#1921 [15:28] <Extreme> eh.
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#1924 [15:29] <Extreme> I don't think people listen to the "Because these are community resources, please do not give out your account information."
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#1927 [15:31] <rymate1234> hey guys
#1928 [15:31] <ultimatemegaman> Okay, I now have the 4 sector code. (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)
#1929 [15:31] <rymate1234> who wants my paypal password
#1930 [15:31] <rymate1234> lel
#1931 [15:31] <ultimatemegaman> I won't put it here for security reasons..
#1932 [15:32] <ultimatemegaman> Is this my server ip?
#1933 [15:32] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, people can /whois, also.
#1934 [15:32] <rymate1234> ultimatemegaman: yes, but your IP is publically avaliable information anyone can get
#1935 [15:32] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, anyways - did you port forward?
#1936 [15:33] <ultimatemegaman> No, I just found the code, I can see the paragraph above.
#1937 [15:33] <ultimatemegaman> I'll follow that.
#1938 [15:33] <ultimatemegaman> Would the 4 sector code be the 'router's admin page'?
#1939 [15:34] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, did you ogin into your router admin panel?
#1940 [15:34] <Extreme> login*
#1941 [15:34] <ultimatemegaman> Oh, is the admin panel the block of text from the minecraft_server.exe file?
#1942 [15:35] <Scott> 4 sector code, lols.
#1943 [15:35] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, no it's your router gateway
#1944 [15:35] <olidemo87> i removed java re-installed it but tell me that its still corrupted
#1945 [15:36] <ultimatemegaman> What do I have to do with the 4 sector code?
#1946 [15:36] <ultimatemegaman> I kind of lost you.
#1947 [15:36] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, go back to the ipconfig window
#1948 [15:36] <ultimatemegaman> Oh, right.
#1949 [15:36] <Scott> Mojang should just add UPnP to the server software.
#1950 [15:36] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, see the "default gatway" IP?
#1951 [15:36] <ultimatemegaman> Yes, I looked at the IPv4 and found the code.
#1952 [15:37] <ultimatemegaman> Default gateway... looking for it now...
#1953 [15:37] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, go to it in your browser
#1954 [15:37] <Scott> It's not a code. It's an IPv4 address.
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#1956 [15:38] <ultimatemegaman> Yes, I have the Default Gateway code written down.
#1957 [15:38] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, go to it in your browser
#1958 [15:38] <ultimatemegaman> I'm not sure what browser is, that's where the confusion arises...
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#1960 [15:38] <ultimatemegaman> Is it minecraft_server.exe?
#1961 [15:38] <Morrolan> Internet Explorer / Firefox / Opera / Chrome.
#1962 [15:38] <Morrolan> Those are all browsers.
#1963 [15:39] <ultimatemegaman> Oh, right.
#1964 [15:39] <ultimatemegaman> So I type the code into Google?
#1965 [15:39] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, no the URL bar
#1966 [15:39] <ultimatemegaman> Oh, okay.
#1967 [15:39] <Morrolan> You remind me of my French teacher. :P
#1968 [15:40] <ultimatemegaman> I'm on a Super Hub Virgin Media Page, what next?
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#1970 [15:40] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, look for the portforward tab
#1971 [15:40] <beck> i cannot run minecraft on my mac
#1972 [15:40] <beck> not sure what I am doing wrong
#1973 [15:40] <rymate1234> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1974 [15:40] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, disable Gatekeeper entirely by following the instructions at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#1975 [15:40] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: This is what the gatekeeper dialog looks like: http://cargo.dcurt.is.s3.amazonaws.com/unsigned.jpg
#1976 [15:40] <ultimatemegaman> What's a portforward tab?
#1977 [15:41] <ultimatemegaman> I'm just being asked to sign into my Super Hub account.
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#1979 [15:41] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman: go here and find your router http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
#1980 [15:42] <ultimatemegaman> Found it, and an ad came up.
#1981 [15:42] <ultimatemegaman> Do I get rid of it or keep it up?
#1982 [15:42] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, I found it for you, do what's described here: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/VirginMedia/Netgear_CG3101D/Minecraft_Server.htm
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#1984 [15:43] <ultimatemegaman> That's the page that I loaded from before.
#1985 [15:44] <Extreme> ultimatemegaman, ok; just do the instructions
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#1987 [15:44] <beck> I already disabled all the security stuff. It will not let me play on my computer or in my browser
#1988 [15:45] <Extreme> beck, Minecraft in browser does not work with Mac
#1989 [15:46] <beck> ok, so I opened it online and downloaded all the updates and everything, but it will not launch from my applications
#1990 [15:46] <ultimatemegaman> Where am I supposed to find the username and password for my Super Hub account?
#1991 [15:46] <beck> or from my desktop
#1992 [15:46] <ultimatemegaman> Oh, ahh...
#1993 [15:46] <ultimatemegaman> I looked at the page, and it looks like I'll find the username and password on the back of the router.
#1994 [15:46] <ultimatemegaman> I'll be right back.
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#1996 [15:49] <beck> any mac experts online?
#1997 [15:49] <ultimatemegaman> I'm getting there.
#1998 [15:49] <ultimatemegaman> Clicked the Link to Port Forwarding.
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#2001 [15:51] <Calinou> ragequi
#2002 [15:51] <Calinou> +t
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#2004 [15:52] <ultimatemegaman> I think I've got it working.
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#2007 [15:52] <Gurkenglas> So I got this singleplayer version of a multiplayer map. Can you recommend a program that generates a picture with all the (diamond) ore positions and other hidden places of interest noted?
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#2009 [15:52] <ultimatemegaman> I've signed into Super Hub, went to the Port Forwarding page and followed the instructions.
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#2012 [15:53] <ultimatemegaman> Now how am I going to get someone in?
#2013 [15:53] <Calinou> tell them your external IP
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#2015 [15:53] <ultimatemegaman> How do I get the external IP?
#2016 [15:54] <Guest95359> i new to minecrafth and i can find my way to play the game
#2017 [15:54] <Calinou> ultimatemegaman, http://youripis.org
#2018 [15:55] <Calinou> a lot of other websites do that too
#2019 [15:55] <ultimatemegaman> Thanks!
#2020 [15:55] <ultimatemegaman> So, if people connect to that, they can join in!
#2021 [15:55] <ultimatemegaman> I'm gonna test it to see if my friend gets in, thanks a bunch Extreme!
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#2025 [15:57] <Guest95359> sorry that was my dad
#2026 [15:57] <Guest95359> im the mine craft player
#2027 [15:58] <Guest95359> how do i get the link
#2028 [15:59] <Guest95359> to play minecraft
#2029 [15:59] <Calinou> Guest43344, http://minecraft.net
#2030 [15:59] <Calinou> simple as that
#2031 [15:59] <Guest95359> well how can you tell me
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#2034 [16:00] <Calinou> ._.
#2035 [16:00] <Guest95359> oh thx
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#2045 [16:19] <valter> olá, pessoal
#2046 [16:19] <valter> preciso muito de ajuda para consertar failed loggin
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#2051 [16:29] <Guest15155> Hey guys
#2052 [16:29] <Guest15155> seriously...?
#2053 [16:30] * Guest15155 is now known as osuka_
#2054 [16:30] <rymate1234> hey
#2055 [16:30] <rymate1234> ??ask
#2056 [16:30] <rymate1234> oops
#2057 [16:30] <rymate1234> ?? ask
#2058 [16:30] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2059 [16:30] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2060 [16:31] <osuka_> lol, I know
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#2062 [16:32] <osuka_> Long story short, world got corrupted. Everybody in the region would get kicked upon login; deleted .mcr and world's back to normal. But on the other side of the map, two chunks got broken and I can't go there (they're invisible, plus I'd glitch). The server keeps throwing exceptions at me when it tries to spawn entities in there and I need to get rid of these two chunks. Any ideas?
#2063 [16:33] <nishilp> can't put in blocks
#2064 [16:33] <nishilp> in creative mode
#2065 [16:33] <Calinou> nishilp, huh?
#2066 [16:33] <nishilp> frustrating for my son.. any help out there
#2067 [16:33] <Calinou> osuka_, it's 2013, we use .mca now, not .mcr ;)
#2068 [16:34] <osuka_> They're the same. Or almost.
#2069 [16:34] <Calinou> nishilp, open inventory with E, then you can choose blocks there by clicking
#2070 [16:34] <osuka_> Either way, it's .mca then.
#2071 [16:34] <osuka_> ...yeah, mca.
#2072 [16:34] <nishilp> we have tried that too
#2073 [16:35] <Lutzee> osuka_: mcedit
#2074 [16:35] <Calinou> osuka_, MCEdit could do that
#2075 [16:35] <osuka_> Also... wut be dis? lol The game's spawning and despawning hostile mobs (it's on peaceful)
#2076 [16:35] <Calinou> been ninja'd by Lutzee ;)
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#2078 [16:35] <osuka_> Calinou: Lutzee is a ninja, get used to it
#2079 [16:35] <Calinou> peaceful despawns any hostile mobs every tick
#2080 [16:35] <Calinou> it doesn't prevent their spawn (notch, you know how to code!)
#2081 [16:36] <osuka_> lol, then it's how it's supposed to be, then
#2082 [16:36] <osuka_> sounds /really/ efficient
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#2084 [16:36] <Seeq> hello
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#2086 [16:37] <Darkant> hi
#2087 [16:37] <Seeq> my credit card got disabled and i cant buy minecraft
#2088 [16:37] <Darkant> I have a problem with a launcher of dnspack
#2089 [16:37] <Extreme> Seeq, do you reside in the US?
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#2091 [16:38] <Extreme> ??> Darkant mods
#2092 [16:38] <VoxelHead> Darkant: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2093 [16:38] <Seeq> what do you mean by reside?
#2094 [16:38] <VoxelHead> Darkant: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2095 [16:38] <Lutzee> Seeq: Live in the US
#2096 [16:38] <Seeq> no im from Canada
#2097 [16:38] <Lutzee> mm just noticed
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#2099 [16:38] <Lutzee> Even so, ots an international transaction
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#2101 [16:38] <osuka_> Lutzee: if MCEdit breaks the modded world, even though I have a backup, I'll blame you
#2102 [16:39] <Lutzee> Contact your creditcard provider and tell them you are trying to make an international transaction
#2103 [16:39] <osuka_> :*
#2104 [16:39] <Cassyfg> Hello all, my game its been freezing for 5-10 seconds every 20 secs or so... what can I do to fix it?
#2105 [16:39] <Lutzee> osuka_: shouldn't just mark the chunks for regeneration
#2106 [16:39] <osuka_> I like how my world is named "warld".
#2107 [16:40] <Guest_> Hello, I have a son that plays minecraft, and he needs to install aether. And I read that forst I have to start Forge. Where do I get a forge that works? and then how to install aether?, thanks
#2108 [16:40] <Extreme> ??> Cassyfg crashreport
#2109 [16:40] <VoxelHead> Cassyfg: (crashreport) How to get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2110 [16:40] <Seeq> like after I did everything it asked for a secure code. After that it said my credit card disabled and stuff
#2111 [16:40] <Extreme> ??> Guest_ mods
#2112 [16:40] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2113 [16:40] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2114 [16:41] <Guest_> thnaks VoxelHead, I will try those instructions
#2115 [16:41] <Guest_> thnaks VoxelHead, I will try those instructions
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#2120 [16:44] <osuka_> what the...
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#2122 [16:44] <osuka_> The 2 bad chunks are blatantly broken on mcedit, lol
#2123 [16:45] <iza> Hello, I am having trouble launching Minecraft. I have a Mac, downloaded Java, and am using Safari.
#2124 [16:45] <iza> I can't even get it to open!
#2125 [16:46] <iza> Hello? Anyone?
#2126 [16:46] <Calinou> iza, use the downloaded client
#2127 [16:46] <Calinou> make sure you disable gatekeeper first :P
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#2129 [16:47] <Extreme> iza, the browser version does not work with mac
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#2132 [16:47] <iza> I tried downloading it and moving it to Applications..and it said the file was damaged
#2133 [16:47] <osuka_> Lutzee, I choose you! :P
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#2135 [16:48] <osuka_> MCedit too hard.
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#2137 [16:48] <peeps> is anyone else having truble getting n
#2138 [16:48] <Seeq> hey I was wondering if you guys have a # I could call for customer services?
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#2140 [16:48] <peeps> it goes to load and then stops
#2141 [16:48] <peeps> any ideaqs
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#2143 [16:49] <osuka_> Take that, corrupted chunks.
#2144 [16:49] <osuka_> peeps, try a force update
#2145 [16:49] <peeps> hw
#2146 [16:49] <peeps> how
#2147 [16:49] <osuka_> ??> osuka_ faq
#2148 [16:49] <osuka_> ??> osuka_ index
#2149 [16:49] <VoxelHead> osuka_: (index) See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries. See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/faqdatabase for the full database, with definitions and text.
#2150 [16:49] <VoxelHead> osuka_: (index) Syfaro has made a more user-friendly interface for accessing entries here: http://guru.syfaro.net/faq.php
#2151 [16:49] <osuka_> One... second...
#2152 [16:50] <osuka_> ??> peeps forceupdate
#2153 [16:50] <VoxelHead> peeps: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2154 [16:50] <VoxelHead> peeps: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2155 [16:50] <osuka_> heheheheheh.
#2156 [16:50] <peeps> ty
#2157 [16:50] <Seeq> do they have customer service # that I could call? because im having difficulties making a minecraft game purchase
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#2159 [16:51] <Seeq> anyone?
#2160 [16:51] <Extreme> ? as
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#2162 [16:51] <Extreme> ?? ask
#2163 [16:51] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2164 [16:51] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2165 [16:51] <Extreme> Seeq, what's the problem?
#2166 [16:51] <Cassyfg> When I try to run a crash report this is what I get. C:\Users\Cassy\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft>"%ProgramFiles%/Java/jre7/bin/java" -Xm s1G -Xmx1G -cp Minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame > log.txt The system cannot find the path specified.
#2167 [16:51] <Cassyfg> any clue?
#2168 [16:52] <Seeq> I tried purchasing mincraft and it wouldn't let me. it said authentication failed something like that, and my credit card has been disabled for online purchases.
#2169 [16:52] <Seeq> this happened after i entered the "secure code"
#2170 [16:52] <Seeq> during the process of my purchase.
#2171 [16:53] <Extreme> Seeq, check that international transactions are allowed
#2172 [16:53] <Extreme> Seeq, with your bank
#2173 [16:53] <Seeq> yeah I did
#2174 [16:54] <Seeq> and they said yes
#2175 [16:54] <Extreme> Cassyfg, please download the file on this page: http://www.mesiapk.com/downloads/advancedMinecraftErrorTest.bat
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#2177 [16:55] <Cassyfg> ok
#2178 [16:55] <Seeq> there was a customer support # when it said my transaction had failed but I couldn't get to it, can you tell me the customer service #?
#2179 [16:55] <MCluc12> Insatl problems Screen disappears after downloading
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#2181 [16:56] <MCluc12> Tried "force update"doesn't work... MS security is off ...
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#2184 [16:57] <Cassyfg> re-installing Java maybe will fix my problem?
#2185 [16:57] <MCluc12> Who can help with Install problems ?
#2186 [16:57] <Cassyfg> [spoiler][code] ==Advanced Minecraft error test v1.0== - by theFriedZombie ==Computer info== SystemManufacturer: System manufacturer SystemProductName: System Product Name SystemFamily: To Be Filled By O.E.M. SystemVersion: System Version Processor: Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5, GenuineIntel NumberOfProcessors: 1 Physical memory: 12288 MB installed, 12279 MB available, 9235 MB free Virtual memory: 12279 MB all
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#2188 [16:57] <Extreme> Cassyfg, pastebin it
#2189 [16:58] <MCluc12> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x4ffe92b4, pid=5816, tid=3224 # # JRE version: 7.0_21-b11 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (23.21-b01 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [atioglxx.dll+0x192b4] DrvSwapBuffers+0xa4 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows # # If
#2190 [16:58] <Cassyfg> \Cassy ==Video controller info== Caption=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 ConfigManagerErrorCode=0 Description=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 DriverVersion=9.18.13.1106 InstalledDisplayDrivers=nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2u m,nvwgf2um Name=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 PNPDeviceID=PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1086&SUBSYS_15713842&REV_A1\4&2F1C4 782&0&0018 Status=OK StatusInfo= Caption=LogMeIn Mirror Driv
#2191 [16:58] <Extreme> ??> Cassyfg pastebin
#2192 [16:58] <VoxelHead> Cassyfg: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2193 [16:58] <Cassyfg> ok
#2194 [16:58] <Extreme> ?>> MCluc1 pastebin
#2195 [16:58] <Extreme> ?> MCluc1 pastebin
#2196 [16:58] <Extreme> ??> MCluc1 pastebin
#2197 [16:58] <VoxelHead> MCluc1: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2198 [16:59] <MCluc12> http://pastebin.com/3xBgHPfx
#2199 [16:59] <Cassyfg> Here is http://pastebin.com/SHHF2Zqt
#2200 [16:59] <Extreme> ??> MCluc12 win/dxdiag/bat
#2201 [16:59] <VoxelHead> MCluc12: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#2202 [16:59] <VoxelHead> MCluc12: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#2203 [17:00] <Extreme> Cassyfg, yes update java
#2204 [17:01] <Lutzee> Cassyfg: make sure you have 64big java installed
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#2206 [17:01] <Cassyfg> I have 32bit
#2207 [17:01] <Extreme> Cassyfg, and uninstall hamachi while your at it
#2208 [17:01] <MCluc12> http://pastebin.com/uTTjVGTr
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#2213 [17:04] <SilverlightPony> Hi, I'm having trouble getting some mods to work on my server. :(
#2214 [17:04] <Extreme> ??> SilverlightPony mods
#2215 [17:04] <VoxelHead> SilverlightPony: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2216 [17:04] <VoxelHead> SilverlightPony: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#2218 [17:04] <SilverlightPony> oh ffs
#2219 [17:04] <SilverlightPony> oh ffs
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#2221 [17:05] <MCluc12> Is the pastebin helping? http://pastebin.com/uTTjVGTr
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#2224 [17:06] <Cassyfg> this might sound silly where can I donwload Java 64bit?
#2225 [17:06] <osuka_> wlol
#2226 [17:06] <osuka_> I have a funny bug to report.
#2227 [17:06] <osuka_> Not sure if it's already been filed, but...
#2228 [17:08] <Extreme> MCluc12, go here and update your dirvers: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#2229 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Cassyfg - See: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
#2230 [17:09] <MCluc12> Is downloading driver...
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#2232 [17:11] <Cassyfg> thank you, I just re-installed java this time 64bit and still getting ==Java info== Java location according to the path variable: can execute java? NO Issue detected with java, ending script now
#2233 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Cassyfg - Try completely uninstalling java before you reinstall it
#2234 [17:12] <Cassyfg> i did
#2235 [17:12] <Cassyfg> went to control panel uninstalled old version
#2236 [17:12] <Cassyfg> then download and intalled new versionl
#2237 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Try testing your java through: http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
#2238 [17:12] <Cassyfg> it failed.
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#2243 [17:15] <Cassyfg_> this is what I get We are unable to verify if Java is currently installed and enabled in your browser. If you have installed Java and there is an error with the verification, there could be a configuration issue (eg. browser, Java control panel, security settings).
#2244 [17:15] <osuka_> What's the link for the minecraft.jar 1.8 beta?
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#2249 [17:16] <osuka_> Like assets.minecraft.net/version/minecraft.jar, except I don't know what put under version
#2250 [17:16] <mike__> im trying to purchase mine craft and it wont go threw
#2251 [17:17] <Seeq> i have the same problem
#2252 [17:17] <mike__> ok maybe mojang having problem
#2253 [17:18] <mike__> is there a phone number to call?
#2254 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> There is not, mike__.
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#2257 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> osuka_ - Try assets.minecraft.net/1_8-pre2/minecraft.jar
#2258 [17:18] <osuka_> Thanks :)
#2259 [17:19] <Seeq> what happen mike what did you do wrong?
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#2262 [17:19] <mike__> put credit card in but never processes
#2263 [17:19] <Seeq> oh i just had problems with the Secure Code.
#2264 [17:20] <mike__> yeah the email never came
#2265 [17:20] <Seeq> wait you had problems with the Secure code?
#2266 [17:20] <Seeq> yeah it said to wait for the email to come but it didn't come for me either.
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#2274 [17:26] <MCluc12> has updated video driver ... now I get afer "force update" a white screen with "Mojang"logo -> no response
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#2276 [17:27] <Cassyfg> I still cant veifry my java installation, any tips?
#2277 [17:28] <osuka_> no far lands =/
#2278 [17:28] <MCluc12> AHHH It's working !!!! Thanks for the support!!!!
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#2281 [17:33] <Cassyfg> =( Java updates suck...
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#2283 [17:39] <rymate1234> Correction: java sucks
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#2285 [17:43] <Cassyfg> I have done everythign I can imagine and still can't verify the installation.
#2286 [17:43] <Cassyfg> =(
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#2288 [17:46] <Nytician> Hi, my PC runs minecraft and most stuff pretty well, 60fps capped yet when I use a repeater in an on/off repeating circuit for droppers it lags stupidly
#2289 [17:46] <Nytician> only when I turned it off does everything return to normal
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#2291 [17:50] <becca> i am trying to purchase a 2nd game for my daughter and it will not allow me. i already purchased one for my son today.
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#2293 [17:51] <Aris> My minecraft crashed want to know what to do about sending the crash report to Mojang
#2294 [17:52] <becca> how do i contact minecraft directly? i have checked the FAQ's and cannot find an email or phone number.
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#2296 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> becca - As Mojang is based in Sweden and are a group of indie developers, they have no toll free support number available. For your issue, try using paypal instead of Moneybookers to pay for the second account. Moneybookers tends to lock the credit card out after the first payment to prevent multiple purchases
#2297 [17:56] <becca> ok thanks. i will try. :)
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#2302 [17:58] <Nytician> you can try twitter maybe?
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#2305 [18:01] <becca> paypal worked! thank you so much! have a great day. :)
#2306 [18:01] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#2311 [18:06] <Cassyfg> lol Java techsupport wants to charge me $50 to help me fix my java problem....
#2312 [18:06] <Cassyfg> lol Java techsupport wants to charge me $50 to help me fix my java problem....
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#2314 [18:08] <Cassyfg> Minecraft only runs with Java right?
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#2316 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Right
#2317 [18:10] <Wug> Cassyfg: get teamviewer
#2318 [18:10] <Wug> I'll fix it for free
#2319 [18:10] <Cassyfg> ok, 1 sec.
#2320 [18:11] <Cassyfg> thanks
#2321 [18:11] <Cassyfg> brb
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#2323 [18:11] <Wug> teamviewer isnt yelling at me about commercial use yet on this computer
#2324 [18:12] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2324 [18:12] <Wug> judging by the number of computers I have that it yells at me about, I use it about 3x as much as their threshold for home use
#2325 [18:12] <Lutzee> i use it to RD into my desktop, i think having a non-comercial account helps
#2326 [18:12] <Wug> no it doesnt :|
#2327 [18:13] <Lutzee> really? hmm
#2328 [18:13] <Wug> I maxed out one of those once
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#2330 [18:13] <Wug> they base it somehow on the number of unique connections you make
#2331 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> mmhmm
#2332 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> And there's even a point where they'll limit the session time to 5 minutes if you use it too much
#2333 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> I've hit that way more times than I can remember here.
#2334 [18:14] <Wug> yeah
#2335 [18:14] <Wug> that certainly made TVing people a pain
#2336 [18:15] <Wug> it became a race
#2337 [18:15] * GreyVulpine remembers trying to do that with helping somebody port forward.. ugh
#2337 [18:15] <Wug> oh god
#2338 [18:15] <Wug> I refuse to help with port forwarding
#2339 [18:16] <Wug> if you can't forward your ports, you don't know enough about networks to competently host a server
#2340 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> gather information, get to router, drop. Get back in, get back in router, change information. Drop. Get back in, launch server, test conn- drop.
#2341 [18:16] <Wug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpi9Ew-P0y8
#2342 [18:16] <VoxelHead> Rebound - Arty & Mat Zo - A State Of Trance 2011 CD1, On The Beach ( by SOLOYOTENGO )
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#2344 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2345 [18:17] <Cassyfg> Sorry back, I had to restart the computer.
#2346 [18:18] <Wug> Cassyfg: once you have teamviewer send me the id and passwith /msg wug id: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#2347 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd1ziRr5pUo
#2348 [18:18] <VoxelHead> Two Steps From Hell - Wrath Of Sea ( by Revennaras )
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#2350 [18:24] <Nytician> Anyone else find minecraft lags when using a repeater in 'repeater' mode?
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#2359 [18:34] <skyhook> so im trying to buy minecraft and cant
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#2362 [18:35] <skyhook> can anyone help me?
#2363 [18:36] <Nytician> maybe your not allowed to buy minecraft more than once in a day?
#2364 [18:36] <Cassyfg_> Wug thank you very much! Minecraft is running smooth again!
#2365 [18:36] <Wug> only if paying by credit card
#2366 [18:36] <Wug> Cassyfg_: np
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#2368 [18:38] <skyhook> well that the thing i put my info and oh boy nothing happen
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#2380 [19:00] <vvSierravv> Redeemed prepaid card for mine craft and signed up with mojang, but cannot download minecraft, i have done everything to try and make it work, still not good
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#2384 [19:02] <vvSierravv> need help
#2385 [19:03] <vvSierravv> hello? anyone?
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#2387 [19:06] <Xetron> Yes Sierra?
#2388 [19:07] <vvSierravv> Redeemed a prepaid card for minecraft and cannot download.
#2389 [19:07] <vvSierravv> tried evrything I know but still not working
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#2391 [19:07] <vvSierravv> can you help me out?
#2392 [19:08] <cestislife> vvSierravv: Please explain what you meant by "cannot download"
#2393 [19:08] <cestislife> Are you having problems downloading the launcher from http://minecraft.net/download ?
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#2395 [19:08] <cestislife> Or are you having issues with logging into the launcher, to download the game itself?
#2396 [19:09] <vvSierravv> the mine craft launcher has been the same for hours,
#2397 [19:09] <cestislife> Are you using Internet Explorer?
#2398 [19:09] <vvSierravv> yes
#2399 [19:09] <cestislife> ??> vvSierravv win/ie
#2400 [19:09] <cestislife> uh
#2401 [19:09] <cestislife> ??> vvSierravv fubar/ie
#2402 [19:09] <VoxelHead> vvSierravv: (fubar/ie) Internet Exploder/Exploiter/Explorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#2403 [19:09] <VoxelHead> vvSierravv: (fubar/ie) Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox
#2404 [19:11] <McCaw> Could anybody help me, for the longest time now my minecraft has had problems saving my progress. It will save part of my work but not all of it.
#2405 [19:12] <Xetron> Part of it as in?
#2406 [19:13] <McCaw> like i could chop some trees and then craft bookshelves, the bookshelves would be in my inventory, but the wood would be gone
#2407 [19:13] <McCaw> after i relog though, not in the middle of my game
#2408 [19:14] <vvSierravv> cestislife I am looking at the minecraft launcher all it gives me is minecraft news, nothing downloaded
#2409 [19:14] <cestislife> vvSierravv: You login the bottom right corner. Do you see that?
#2410 [19:14] <vvSierravv> yes
#2411 [19:14] <cestislife> Then login
#2412 [19:14] <vvSierravv> tried it
#2413 [19:14] <vvSierravv> said not downloaded
#2414 [19:14] <cestislife> What is the error in red text?
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#2416 [19:15] <Xetron> McCaw, how are you closing your client?
#2417 [19:15] <McCaw> save and log out followed by closing the program
#2418 [19:15] <vvSierravv> login failed
#2419 [19:15] <cestislife> vvSierravv: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/1085932
#2420 [19:16] <Xetron> Huh. And this is singleplayer, no?
#2421 [19:16] <McCaw> yes, i get the most problem when i clear a large area underground like strip mining
#2422 [19:17] <cestislife> Are you using any mods?
#2423 [19:17] <McCaw> nope
#2424 [19:17] <cestislife> Specifically Optifine?
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#2426 [19:19] <vvSierravv> that does not help, I dont have a minecraft user name ,because I dont have minecraft
#2427 [19:19] <cestislife> vvSierravv: You must buy the game to play.
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#2429 [19:20] <vvSierravv> I bought a prepaid and redeemed it on mojang
#2430 [19:20] <vvSierravv> singed up for mojang
#2431 [19:20] <cestislife> I am confused, you say "because I dont have minecraft"
#2432 [19:20] <cestislife> Which is it?
#2433 [19:21] <vvSierravv> damn thin wont launch
#2434 [19:21] <Xetron> You bought the game, no?
#2435 [19:22] <cestislife> Please make sure Minecraft is listed here under "My Games", and make sure you have a Profile Name here - http://account.mojang.com/me
#2436 [19:22] <McCaw> i do
#2437 [19:22] <McCaw> i have*
#2438 [19:22] <vvSierravv> yup bought the game
#2439 [19:22] <Xetron> You have Optifine McCaw?
#2440 [19:22] <McCaw> i do not, i have no mods just straight vanilla
#2441 [19:23] <cestislife> vvSierravv: Please make sure Minecraft is listed here under "My Games", and make sure you have a Profile Name here - http://account.mojang.com/me
#2442 [19:23] <cestislife> Like so - http://i.imgur.com/m7eVHn4.png
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#2444 [19:24] <Xetron> Have you tried a 3rd party launcher, like MULTIMC 4.3?
#2445 [19:24] <McCaw> i have not, how would i go about doing that?
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#2448 [19:25] <Xetron> Let me find that thread for you.
#2449 [19:25] <vvSierravv> no minecraft listed under my games and i do have an account with mojang
#2450 [19:25] <denhrk> i now i can not login to download it
#2451 [19:25] <cestislife> vvSierravv: Then you have not redeemed the game on the correct account you're logging in from.
#2452 [19:26] <cestislife> denhrk: Define "can not login"
#2453 [19:26] <denhrk> login in fail
#2454 [19:26] <McCaw> that would be greatly appretiated xetron
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#2456 [19:27] <cestislife> denhrk: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/1085932
#2457 [19:27] <vvSierravv> well thats weird, because I only have opne account
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#2459 [19:28] <cestislife> vvSierravv: Do you have a Minecraft username then?
#2460 [19:28] <cestislife> vvSierravv: Please make sure you've logged in to the account you've done the redemption on.
#2461 [19:28] <Xetron> McCaw, give MultiMC a shot. Read the "What is MultiMC" section and manage your Minecraft in a different location than %appdata%, and see how that effects it. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1000645-multimc-43-windows-linux-mac/
#2462 [19:29] <McCaw> alright thank you very much
#2463 [19:29] <vvSierravv> no I only have mojang account
#2464 [19:29] <Xetron> Also, when in new location, you can copy your saves and textures into that .minecraft :)
#2465 [19:29] <cestislife> vvSierravv: Are you sure you have redeemed the game on http://account.mojang.com/redeem ?
#2466 [19:30] <vvSierravv> so most likely i just lost $28.00
#2467 [19:30] <McCaw> ok thanks :D
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#2469 [19:30] <Xetron> Anytime.
#2470 [19:30] <vvSierravv> 100% positve
#2471 [19:31] <DaiD> i need command block help. i have two teams: admin and member. i have a commandblock with /testfor @a[team=!admin,team=!member], to check if someone doesnt have a team. it won't work though. the command block output is always off, even though i dont have a team
#2472 [19:31] <cestislife> vvSierravv: Let me lay it out, 1. You have bought a prepaid card, and have redeemed it on http://account.mojang.com/redeem.
#2473 [19:31] <vvSierravv> yup
#2474 [19:32] <cestislife> vvSierravv: 2. But on http://account.mojang.com/me - Minecraft is not listed under My Games, which is under the My Account section, above the My Gift Codes section?
#2475 [19:32] <vvSierravv> yup
#2476 [19:32] <DaiD> so can someone help me?
#2477 [19:32] <cestislife> vvSierravv: 3. And you are sure you are on the same account that you have doen the redemption on?
#2478 [19:32] <cestislife> done*
#2479 [19:32] <vvSierravv> yes
#2480 [19:33] <vvSierravv> only one account on my puter
#2481 [19:33] <cestislife> vvSierravv: Then you may need to contact Mojang on the issue, this is something we volunteers cannot solve.
#2482 [19:33] <cestislife> ??> vvSierravv mojang/email
#2483 [19:33] <VoxelHead> vvSierravv: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2484 [19:34] <vvSierravv> okay thanks for your help
#2485 [19:34] <DaiD> can i have help now?
#2486 [19:34] <cestislife> DaiD: I have no experience with command blocks. Please refer to this article - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Command_Block
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#2488 [19:35] <DaiD> i read the entire thing, and followed it step by step
#2489 [19:35] <DaiD> still wont work
#2490 [19:35] <DaiD> does anyone here have any experience with command blocks?
#2491 [19:35] <cestislife> DaiD: Then I would suggest asking on the forums. This channel is more oriented towards technical support.
#2492 [19:36] <DaiD> i kinda need fast help though. trying to fix a guy's server. forums usually take a while to respond.
#2493 [19:36] <DaiD> is there a redstone irc?
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#2495 [19:37] <cestislife> Not that I am aware of.
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#2497 [19:38] <imtrevorandimgay> hello
#2498 [19:38] <DaiD> oh well
#2499 [19:38] <imtrevorandimgay> i need help
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#2501 [19:38] <cestislife> ?? ask
#2502 [19:38] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2503 [19:38] <imtrevorandimgay> i log into minecraft right and it says user not premium even thought i payed for it
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#2505 [19:38] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2506 [19:38] <imtrevorandimgay> i need this fix!
#2507 [19:38] <cestislife> imtrevorandimgay: What is your Minecraft username.
#2508 [19:38] <imtrevorandimgay> jacobkid123
#2509 [19:39] <cestislife> .paid jacobkid123
#2510 [19:39] <Syer> cestislife: false
#2511 [19:39] <cestislife> Your account is not premium.
#2512 [19:39] <imtrevorandimgay> but i payed
#2513 [19:39] <cestislife> Were you charged?
#2514 [19:39] <imtrevorandimgay> yes
#2515 [19:39] <cestislife> What was your method of payment?
#2516 [19:39] <imtrevorandimgay> credit card
#2517 [19:40] <todde> i think i was helped by VoxelHead a couple of days ago, thanks, now i need more help
#2518 [19:40] <cestislife> Please contact the financial institution and ask if you were really charged.
#2519 [19:40] <cestislife> todde: A reminder, he is a bot.
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#2521 [19:40] <imtrevorandimgay> i payed a while ago, maybe 6 months and my firiends told me that once you buy it is a one time deal
#2522 [19:40] <cestislife> It is a one time deal.
#2523 [19:40] <imtrevorandimgay> and u dont have to pay again
#2524 [19:40] <todde> oh, new to this stuff
#2525 [19:41] <todde> i need help with a lan setup
#2526 [19:41] <imtrevorandimgay> i was here first
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#2528 [19:41] <imtrevorandimgay> i payed a while ago and it says im not premium
#2529 [19:42] <cestislife> imtrevorandimgay: Please contact Mojang, and include your transaction ID.
#2530 [19:42] <cestislife> ??> imtrevorandimgay mojang/email
#2531 [19:42] <VoxelHead> imtrevorandimgay: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2532 [19:43] <cestislife> todde: Elaborate?
#2533 [19:45] <imtrevorandimgay> that didnt help
#2534 [19:45] <imtrevorandimgay> whyyyyy
#2535 [19:46] <imtrevorandimgay> this happens everytime i try to play after one month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2536 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> imtrevorandimgay - Only Mojang can help you look up your account for you. Please submit a ticket using the form and wait for their help.
#2537 [19:46] <imtrevorandimgay> their help is uselesss when it will take up to one full month again and again, i was just here 2 weeks ago trying to fix it!
#2538 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Their response time has dramatically decreased lately.
#2539 [19:47] <imtrevorandimgay> because they are a terrible company and their letrally in debt right noq
#2540 [19:47] <imtrevorandimgay> now
#2541 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Mojang is not in debt, and actually has a very good support team in place.
#2542 [19:48] <imtrevorandimgay> SOMEONE HELP ME
#2543 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> We have. Please submit a ticket using the form so that Mojang can get started on helping you
#2544 [19:48] <imtrevorandimgay> apparently mojang does not because im talking to there support team right now
#2545 [19:48] <denhrk> i paid for mindcraft on a mojang account now a cannot login to the launcher in order to download
#2546 [19:49] <imtrevorandimgay> see^^^
#2547 [19:49] <imtrevorandimgay> same problem
#2548 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> imtrevorandimgay - No, you're talking to community volunteers, who are not paid by, nor is employed by Mojang.
#2549 [19:49] <imtrevorandimgay> im sending a god damn email to mojang and waiting 5 months for a reply
#2550 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> We're fans of the game, just like you, who help out others on our own free time.
#2551 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Thus, we have no access to your account. Only Mojang has the information to help you. Please contact them using the form
#2552 [19:50] <cestislife> denhrk: I linked you an article pertraining to your issue earlier, please go through the possible solutions on it.
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#2554 [19:50] <imtrevorandimgay> wheres the article
#2555 [19:50] <imtrevorandimgay> i didnt get a link
#2556 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> ??> imtrevorandimgay mojang/email
#2557 [19:50] <VoxelHead> imtrevorandimgay: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2558 [19:50] <imtrevorandimgay> IM NOT EMAILING THEM
#2559 [19:50] <cestislife> denhrk: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/1085932
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#2561 [19:50] <imtrevorandimgay> THEY WILL NOT HELP ME
#2562 [19:50] <Gaymansforlife> try emailing them
#2563 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> imtrevorandimgay - Mojang's only way of contacting them is through that email form.
#2564 [19:50] <imtrevorandimgay> no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2565 [19:51] <Gaymansforlife> have you tried troubleshooting?
#2566 [19:51] <imtrevorandimgay> someone just help me
#2567 [19:51] <Gaymansforlife> ^
#2568 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> We cannot.
#2569 [19:51] <imtrevorandimgay> i know
#2570 [19:51] <imtrevorandimgay> useless
#2571 [19:51] <Gaymansforlife> can you troubleshoot?
#2572 [19:51] <imtrevorandimgay> stupid ass mojang
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#2574 [19:51] * Wug kicked imtrevorandimgay from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mtrevorandimgay :I think we're done here)
#2575 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> damnit wug
#2576 [19:51] <Gaymansforlife> just beep the bong
#2577 [19:51] <cestislife> lawl
#2578 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> I was just about to do that
#2579 [19:52] <megamanx259> hello, my minecraft game is not loading properly when i go in
#2580 [19:52] <cestislife> megamanx259: Elaborate on that?
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#2582 [19:52] <imnickandimgay> hello
#2583 [19:52] <denhrk> i went there and reset pasword and still cannot login with a user name on the launcher to download
#2584 [19:52] <Wug> imnickandimgay: do you have a different problem
#2585 [19:52] <imnickandimgay> i need help
#2586 [19:52] <Gaymansforlife> just trouble shoot
#2587 [19:53] <cestislife> denhrk: You need to login using your email.
#2588 [19:53] <Gaymansforlife> if you troubleshoot
#2589 [19:53] <Gaymansforlife> you will win
#2590 [19:53] <imnickandimgay> i need to log in using my email?
#2591 [19:53] <Gaymansforlife> yes
#2592 [19:53] <Gaymansforlife> yes
#2593 [19:53] <imnickandimgay> i fi troubleshoot?
#2594 [19:53] <Gaymansforlife> no
#2595 [19:53] <Gaymansforlife> ok
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#2597 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> !k Gaymansforlife
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#2599 [19:53] <megamanx259> i go on and it shows a black screen and nothing happens for over a minute
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#2601 [19:53] <Gaymansforlife> ok
#2602 [19:53] <Gaymansforlife> what you do
#2603 [19:53] <imnickandimgay> when i did it with my email
#2604 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Gaymansforlife - Stop.
#2605 [19:53] <imnickandimgay> it did not work
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#2607 [19:54] <rrtht> Sad thing is i have same problem as <imnickandimgay>
#2608 [19:54] <Jacobisgay> hey
#2609 [19:54] * Eddie raises an eyebrow
#2609 [19:54] <megamanx259> my game shows a black screen then it goes to full screen and then shows a white screen
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#2611 [19:54] <Wug> Eddie: yeah
#2612 [19:54] <Jacobisgay> what's so funny
#2613 [19:54] <Gaymansforlife> imnickandimgay, have you tried troubleshooting?
#2614 [19:54] <Wug> about that
#2615 [19:54] <Jacobisgay> seriously
#2616 [19:54] <Jacobisgay> guess who it is
#2617 [19:54] <imnickandimgay> i dont know how to trouble shoot
#2618 [19:54] <Jacobisgay> troubleshoot on my cock
#2619 [19:54] <Gaymansforlife> imnickandimgay ok
#2620 [19:54] <denhrk> i used the email at the launcher and "ligin fail"
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#2626 [19:55] <Lutzee> wow.
#2627 [19:55] <Wug> and thats the end of that.
#2628 [19:55] <megamanx259> i have tried numerous times and it does the same thing
#2629 [19:55] <Wug> we'll have to ask DopeGhoti later if they spammed vox
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#2631 [19:56] <megamanx259> i have tried to download a map but i could still play and that happened a while ago
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#2635 [20:00] <E1ias> The singleplayer world I have put a ton of work into is going crazy. It started when I came back from a trip to the nether and my compass no longer pointed to my original spawn point. Now large sections of the map are void and about half an hour ago I can no longer even get it to load
#2636 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like good ol' map corruption
#2637 [20:01] <E1ias> anything i can do?
#2638 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Easiest thing to do is to load up a backup of that world...
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#2640 [20:02] <E1ias> how do i do that?
#2641 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> But if you didn't religiously keep backups, then you may be lucky to do some map surgery with a map editor like MCedit
#2642 [20:03] <E1ias> well, I backed up my worlds once before I installed single player commands
#2643 [20:04] <E1ias> but I don't know how to find the backups
#2644 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> That would be a problem
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#2646 [20:04] <barney> when logging in it takes me to a black screen how do i fix this?
#2647 [20:04] <E1ias> could installing spc have led to this problem?
#2648 [20:05] <denhrk> is there any way to contact mojang or minecraft
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#2650 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> ??> denhrk mojang/email
#2651 [20:05] <VoxelHead> denhrk: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#2655 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> E1ias - As SPC is a third-party mod, and mods are not supported by Mojang, there's always that chance that a mod can corrupt a world.
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#2657 [20:06] <E1ias> awesome
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#2660 [20:07] <abby567> hello
#2661 [20:07] <tyteen4a03> hi abby567
#2662 [20:07] <abby567> hi
#2663 [20:08] <E1ias> so any tips on fixing things with MCedit?
#2664 [20:08] <abby567> no but i do have a question for you
#2665 [20:08] <abby567> do you think you can help me
#2666 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> E1ias - All depends on how bad it is. There's no magic "Fix everything" button in MCedit.
#2667 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> E1ias - All depends on how bad it is. There's no magic "Fix everything" button in MCedit.
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#2671 [20:11] <abby567> well, i have my own account for minecraft and I have already verified the account. But when i log in i can not log in and i can't use it so I have to use my friends.
#2672 [20:11] <tyteen4a03> ??> abby567 ask
#2673 [20:11] <VoxelHead> abby567: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2674 [20:11] <VoxelHead> abby567: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2675 [20:11] <tyteen4a03> abby567, have you bought Minecraft?
#2676 [20:11] <abby567> yes
#2677 [20:13] <abby567> does anyone have any suggestions for me.
#2678 [20:13] <abby567> Hello?
#2679 [20:14] <tyteen4a03> ??> abby567 patience
#2680 [20:14] <VoxelHead> abby567: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#2681 [20:14] <VoxelHead> abby567: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#2682 [20:14] <tyteen4a03> abby567, make sure you're using your Mojang account email and password to log in
#2683 [20:15] <abby567> I have already tried that and it won't let me connect to the internet.
#2684 [20:15] <tyteen4a03> abby567, Can't connect to Minecraft.net?
#2685 [20:16] <abby567> I would be able to minecraft offline but I like to play multiplayer with friends
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#2687 [20:16] <tyteen4a03> abby567, do you see the Can't connect to Minecraft.net error when you try to log in?
#2688 [20:18] <abby567> no the mine craft.net error does not show up it either says " User not premium" or " Login failed"
#2689 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> abby567 - Make sure you're using your email address as your username
#2690 [20:18] <abby567> when i use my regular user name it says "user not premium"
#2691 [20:19] <abby567> I do use my email and it just says "login failed"
#2692 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to log into your mojang.com account with that email address and password?
#2693 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Try logging into: https://account.mojang.com/login
#2694 [20:20] <abby567> it is not working
#2695 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> If it doesn't work, then you may need to reset your password using the "Reset password" link
#2696 [20:21] <abby567> can you give me the link
#2697 [20:21] <abby567> please
#2698 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#2699 [20:22] <abby567> thank you very much for your help.
#2700 [20:25] <abby567> it didn't work
#2701 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Did you get a password reset email?
#2702 [20:27] <abby567> yes, and I clicked on the link and reset my password and it is still saying that it is invalid
#2703 [20:28] <Wug> abby567: can you login on mojang.com
#2704 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Apparently not, wug.
#2705 [20:28] <Wug> huh.
#2706 [20:29] <Wug> abby567: what's your keyboard layout set to
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#2709 [20:29] <Wug> US english? or something else
#2710 [20:29] <abby567> US English
#2711 [20:31] <Wug> send an email to mojang then. include the in-game name, the email address, and the transaction id
#2712 [20:31] <Wug> ?? email/mojang
#2713 [20:31] <Wug> ?? mojang/email
#2714 [20:31] <VoxelHead> mojang/email: You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#2716 [20:32] <Smeagollum101> I know this site doesnt help with mods. but i was wondering if i download the zeppelins mod if it will work on custom made boats. sort of like in the ships and boats mod
#2717 [20:33] <Smeagollum101> and does anyone know a good download link for one of those mods
#2718 [20:34] <tyteen4a03> Smeagollum101, you've just asked a mod question, which is exactly what we don't support
#2719 [20:34] <tyteen4a03> Smeagollum101, you will have better luck elsewhere
#2720 [20:35] <Smeagollum101> i tried all my luck on google but cant find much without liking stff on facebook and i dont do facebook or have an account so im in a bit of a problemo there
#2721 [20:36] <tyteen4a03> Smeagollum101, I despise that kind of site
#2722 [20:36] <tyteen4a03> Smeagollum101, just ask on Minecraft Forums
#2723 [20:36] <Smeagollum101> ok
#2724 [20:36] <abby567> thank you for all the help and support.
#2725 [20:37] <Smeagollum101> will they get back to me as fast as this chat center
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#2727 [20:38] <tyteen4a03> Smeagollum101, no
#2728 [20:39] <Smeagollum101> do you have any idea how fast they will get back to me? i have a pretty busy daily schedule and cant get on my PC as frequently as id prefer to
#2729 [20:39] <Megamickel> Hi, I'm having an issue with a couple of friends getting "server out of date" errors. I've doublechecked the .jar and it's definitely 1.5.1, same as their clients, which I've also had them reinstall. Myself and another friend are able to connect perfectly. This has happened with both the craftbukkit and the vanilla .jar. They're seeing the server version as 1.4.2. Is there any reason their clients could be seeing an incorrect server version?
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#2733 [20:40] <tyteen4a03> Megamickel, firstly do make sure they're connected to the right server, secondly check it yourself that the server IS identified was 1.4.2 instead of 1.5.1
#2734 [20:41] <tyteen4a03> *as
#2735 [20:41] <Lutzee> Infact, I will check too, whats the IP?
#2736 [20:41] <Megamickel> Have doublechecked, had them use both the subdomain and the IP. Actually had him send me the screenshot.
#2737 [20:41] <Megamickel> 108.170.3.146
#2738 [20:42] <Lutzee> ohh
#2739 [20:42] <Lutzee> "My MCProhosting FTB server"?
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#2741 [20:43] <Megamickel> yeah haven't messed with the name any.
#2742 [20:43] <Megamickel> their support has been 0 help saying "nah not on our end"
#2743 [20:43] <Smeagollum101> thanks for your help
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#2745 [20:43] <Lutzee> Well, the FTBbetapack A is 1.4.2 i suggest you delete everything from the node and start again
#2746 [20:44] <Lutzee> It may be MCPH continuing to launch that pack even though you want a 1.5 jar
#2747 [20:45] <Megamickel> the world files should still load if I reupload them after wiping it, right?
#2748 [20:45] <Lutzee> dont delete the world folder then
#2749 [20:45] <Megamickel> Ah
#2750 [20:45] <Lutzee> Otherwise you end up with a fresh map
#2751 [20:46] <Megamickel> Alright, so I'll leave the world folders untouched, delete everything else
#2752 [20:46] <Megamickel> and reupload the craftbukkit.jar
#2753 [20:47] <Megamickel> or rather
#2754 [20:47] <Megamickel> restart it
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#2756 [20:50] <Megamickel> alright, gonna have him try restarting
#2757 [20:51] <Megamickel> Still no luck, still outdated server
#2758 [20:51] <Lutzee> Still 1.4.2 go ask mcprohosting to make sure that they aren't force loading a FTB instance..
#2759 [20:51] <Megamickel> My question is why can I connect perfectly?
#2760 [20:53] <Megamickel> Alright I just asked them that in the support ticket. They've been good about replying quickly thus far.
#2761 [20:57] <Megamickel> His response: "But only once or twice here and there?" Which is true - before today, the issue was sporadic.
#2762 [20:57] <Megamickel> Today it's been consistant.
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#2764 [21:04] <Megamickel> His answer was the same, delete everything from the node.
#2765 [21:04] <Megamickel> which I already did >_>
#2766 [21:05] <Megamickel> Literally emptied out the entire FTP, but... hm.
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#2769 [21:10] <Megamickel> MCPH says they're not forceloading anything.
#2770 [21:11] <Lutzee> Megamickel: the last thing i can suggest is make sure you are logging into the correct FTP server .-.
#2771 [21:11] <Megamickel> Only have the one.
#2772 [21:12] <Megamickel> and it's built into their client, so I'm pretty confident I went to the right one.
#2773 [21:12] <Megamickel> the FTP client I mean
#2774 [21:12] <Megamickel> ...I dunno. I've been beating my head against this for 5 hours now
#2775 [21:12] <Megamickel> with no discernable progress.
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#2779 [21:19] <todde> can anyone provide any help with the LAN setup?
#2780 [21:20] <tyteen4a03> todde, what do you need help with?
#2781 [21:20] <todde> I have 2 laptops and we are trying to get on the same game
#2782 [21:21] <todde> we start one game and then open LAN, the other laptop never finds the game
#2783 [21:21] <tyteen4a03> todde, are they connected to the same network?
#2784 [21:21] <todde> yes
#2785 [21:22] <tyteen4a03> todde, is the antivirus and firewall on both computers off?
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#2788 [21:23] <todde> i know it is on the one we started the game on, i will check the other
#2789 [21:25] <todde> these are both new win7 laptops...nothing else has been loaded. Only what comes with win7
#2790 [21:25] <tyteen4a03> todde, a lot of the time OEMs preload antivirus as well
#2791 [21:26] <tyteen4a03> todde, do you have control over the router
#2792 [21:26] <tyteen4a03> ?
#2793 [21:30] <todde> ok, both firewalls off
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#2795 [21:31] <todde> now it finds the lan server but will not connect
#2796 [21:35] <todde> yes i have control of the router
#2797 [21:36] <Megamickel> Beating. Head. Against. Brick. Wall. Still. Saying. Out. Of. Date.
#2798 [21:36] <Megamickel> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
#2799 [21:37] <Megamickel> Custom .jar worked. That was a victory cry.
#2800 [21:37] <Megamickel> Toodles
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#2805 [21:41] <noob> is this modded client help?
#2806 [21:43] <cestislife> No.
#2807 [21:43] <cestislife> ?? mods
#2808 [21:43] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2809 [21:43] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#2814 [21:55] <tyteen4a03> todde, whoops, forgot this place
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#2816 [21:55] <seth> the home page for minecraft after i log in will not come up
#2817 [21:56] <todde> still trying
#2818 [21:56] <todde> cant get any connection
#2819 [21:56] <tyteen4a03> todde, I have to go, so here are some ideas: use IP to connect directly, use wired internet if you see time outs, and finally set up a full-fledged server to test whether it's the network card or just Minecraft
#2820 [21:56] <tyteen4a03> todde, ask cestislife if you have any questions
#2821 [21:57] <todde> dont know how to ask a specific person
#2822 [21:57] <tyteen4a03> todde, start the message with their name
#2823 [21:57] <tyteen4a03> todde, start the message with their name
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#2825 [21:57] <tyteen4a03> e.g cestislife: things
#2826 [21:58] <todde> ok thanks
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#2835 [22:19] <dallas> game won't start after i log into my account
#2836 [22:20] <xales> dallas: Has it worked before?
#2837 [22:20] <dallas> many times
#2838 [22:20] <xales> Did you try to install a mod/texture pack, and then it stopped working?
#2839 [22:20] <dallas> no
#2840 [22:21] <xales> ??> dallas forceupdate
#2841 [22:21] <VoxelHead> dallas: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2842 [22:21] <VoxelHead> dallas: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2843 [22:23] <dallas> when I click play in your browser all it says is transferring data from social bit...
#2844 [22:26] <dallas> dont see options. nothing above login key
#2845 [22:26] <xales> dallas: What's your Minecraft username?
#2846 [22:27] <dallas> doesnt say options anywhere
#2847 [22:27] <xales> What's your Minecraft username?
#2848 [22:27] <dallas> dangerdanger101@gmail.com
#2849 [22:27] <xales> Not email, username.
#2850 [22:27] <dallas> make that 103
#2851 [22:27] <xales> What shows up in-game when/if you play multiplayer.
#2852 [22:27] <dallas> dangerdanger103
#2853 [22:28] <xales> Okay.
#2854 [22:28] <xales> Redownload Minecraft from http://minecraft.net/download
#2855 [22:28] <xales> When you launch it, it will have the options button.
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#2857 [22:29] <daniel_> error: Login failed, not downoladed, I reset my password and didn´t work
#2858 [22:30] <xales> daniel_: Are you logging in with your email address?
#2859 [22:30] <daniel_> yes
#2860 [22:30] <dallas> redownloaded it and still no options key
#2861 [22:30] <xales> dallas: It doesn't look like this? http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png
#2862 [22:30] <xales> daniel_: Try logging in on https://account.mojang.com/me
#2863 [22:31] <dallas> no
#2864 [22:32] <daniel_> I deleted my game from this pc i cant force update it
#2865 [22:32] <xales> ??> daniel_ irc/multitasking
#2866 [22:32] <VoxelHead> daniel_: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#2867 [22:33] <xales> dallas: Are you sure you're launching the version you just downloaded?
#2868 [22:33] <xales> daniel_: Try logging in on https://account.mojang.com/me
#2869 [22:33] <dallas> tryto
#2870 [22:33] <dallas> trying to
#2871 [22:34] <xales> dallas: Delete whatever Minecraft icon you are using, and use the new one you download from minecraft.net
#2872 [22:34] <daniel_> i did it, I logged there
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#2875 [22:35] <xales> daniel_: Okay. On that page, it should have a heading that says "MY GAMES". It is not the "games" dropdown menu at the top. Under "My Games" it will list Minecraft, with a Profile Name, and the date you purchased it.
#2876 [22:35] <xales> daniel_: Do you see where it lists the Profile Name?
#2877 [22:35] <daniel_> yeah i see that
#2878 [22:35] <xales> What is the Profile Name?
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#2881 [22:37] <Chemistry_Geek> I'm having trouble running minecraft. Here's the error log: http://pastebin.com/T4mGN0yz
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#2883 [22:37] <daniel_> yeah there is a heading with my games and minecraft
#2884 [22:37] <Chemistry_Geek> I'm using Fedora 18 btw
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#2886 [22:38] <TTheBlackParade> for some reason Minecraft seems to have problems when i use a texture pack, ill log out and log back in and it seems like the last 5 minutes i played dont save, whats up with that?
#2887 [22:38] <xales> TTheBlackParade: No idea - are you using any mods or anything like that?
#2888 [22:38] <xales> Chemistry_Geek: One minute
#2889 [22:38] <xales> daniel_: What is the Profile Name it says for Minecraft?
#2890 [22:38] <TTheBlackParade> nope, none
#2891 [22:39] <xales> Chemistry_Geek: Do you have more than one monitor active?
#2892 [22:39] <daniel_> if i go to minecrafts appears an icon button saying buy, but when I dowloaded for the first time (the only time that works) there was a button for download, instead of there is an icon for buy it
#2893 [22:39] <xales> daniel_: Did you buy Minecraft?
#2894 [22:40] <Chemistry_Geek> I'm not sure, I'm using an old (3-5 year old) laptop who's display broke, thus I have it hooked up to an external display.
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#2896 [22:40] <Chemistry_Geek> xales ^
#2897 [22:40] <xales> Ah. Do you know what graphics card the laptop has?
#2898 [22:41] <xales> (should be in lspci)
#2899 [22:41] <Chemistry_Geek> I think it's an integrated intel thing
#2900 [22:41] <xales> Yeah - those are really, really horrible cards and don't generally support OpenGL (or at least not the version Minecraft needs)
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#2902 [22:41] <xales> depending on the card, it may not work at all, or just run really badly
#2903 [22:41] <xales> (though there are things you can do to improve performance somewhat)
#2904 [22:42] <Chemistry_Geek> xales: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (secondary) (rev 0c)
#2905 [22:42] <daniel_> my bad i didn't find the my games button
#2906 [22:42] <xales> daniel_: Did you buy Minecraft?
#2907 [22:43] <Chemistry_Geek> xales, it's worked on both Windows Vista and Ubuntu 12.10 just fine (It actually worked better in Ubuntu than Vista, go figure)
#2908 [22:43] <daniel_> yes
#2909 [22:43] <flaco> i boght minecraft on my freinds acount how can ichange the email and user name and password?
#2910 [22:44] <Chemistry_Geek> Flaco, username is permanent
#2911 [22:44] <xales> flaco: Go to https://account.mojang.com/me and go to My Account->Settings in the top right.
#2912 [22:44] <xales> You cannot change the username.
#2913 [22:44] <xales> Chemistry_Geek: Huh. You might need a different driver then, though I have absolutely no idea how to do that on Fedora.
#2914 [22:44] <Chemistry_Geek> ...
#2915 [22:45] <Chemistry_Geek> I might just install ubuntu again :P
#2916 [22:45] <flaco> ok can i get a refund?
#2917 [22:45] <Chemistry_Geek> No
#2918 [22:45] <xales> Probably not, but you can try.
#2919 [22:45] <jules> Chemistry_Geek: maybe you have to use a mem flag when you execute java.
#2920 [22:45] <flaco> crap
#2921 [22:45] <xales> It's your problem if you bought it for someone else unintentionally.
#2922 [22:45] <xales> ??> flaco refund
#2923 [22:45] <VoxelHead> flaco: (refund) This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
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#2925 [22:46] <xales> daniel_: What does it say for the Minecraft Profile Name under My Games?
#2926 [22:46] <Chemistry_Geek> jules, how do I do that? I'm a Linux n00b'
#2927 [22:46] <Lord_Ralex> Chemistry_Geek, you installed the drivers, right?
#2928 [22:46] <xales> or, just leave.
#2929 [22:46] <Chemistry_Geek> What drivers?
#2930 [22:46] <xales> jules: in this case, it's not memory that's the problem
#2931 [22:46] <Lord_Ralex> for the video card
#2932 [22:46] <jules> ok
#2933 [22:46] <xales> Chemistry_Geek: If it worked under Ubuntu, I'd just go back to that unless you're particularly attached to Fedora.
#2934 [22:46] <Lord_Ralex> also, dual screens?
#2935 [22:46] <jules> i saw: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException
#2936 [22:46] <xales> jules: yeah, but it's talking about xrandr
#2937 [22:46] <xales> and 0 is out of bounds because there are no OpenGL-supporting screens
#2938 [22:47] <Lord_Ralex> jules, mem issues have a OutOfMemoryException
#2939 [22:47] <jules> k :P
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#2941 [22:47] <jules> my integrated graphics uses my system memory, thought they might be related
#2942 [22:48] <jules> Chemistry_Geek: can you run glxgears?
#2943 [22:48] <flaco> ok can i cancel the transaction and use my email?
#2944 [22:48] <xales> flaco: Not really, no.
#2945 [22:48] <Chemistry_Geek> glxgears?
#2946 [22:48] <xales> flaco: It's your own problem for not checking what account you were logged in to.
#2947 [22:48] <jules> yeah, or do any other 3d games work for you?
#2948 [22:48] <Chemistry_Geek> Haven't tried any other games :P
#2949 [22:49] <Lord_Ralex> Chemistry_Geek, did you install the video drivers and wre you using dual screens?
#2950 [22:49] <xales> no
#2951 [22:49] <xales> it's the card
#2952 [22:49] <flaco> what can i do/
#2953 [22:49] <Chemistry_Geek> I reckon I'll go back to Ubuntu
#2954 [22:49] <Lord_Ralex> some drivers hate dual screens and will crash
#2955 [22:49] <xales> flaco: You could whine to your bank and they may chargeback
#2956 [22:49] <xales> Or, just buy Minecraft again.
#2957 [22:49] <Chemistry_Geek> It worked fine on their...
#2958 [22:49] <Chemistry_Geek> there*
#2959 [22:49] <xales> Once again, it's your own problem for not making sure you were signed into your own account.
#2960 [22:50] <jules> yeah ubuntu normally works out of the box better than other distros
#2961 [22:50] <jules> but if you put enough sweat & tears into fedora it could probably work
#2962 [22:50] <Chemistry_Geek> More n00b friendly :P'
#2963 [22:51] <flaco> so i can do nothing?
#2964 [22:51] <Chemistry_Geek> It probably doesn't help that Oracles java installation instructions suck lemon
#2965 [22:51] <Lord_Ralex> it's not bad
#2966 [22:52] <xales> flaco: As I already said.
#2967 [22:52] <Lord_Ralex> openjdk does just fine from what i see with ubuntu and such
#2968 [22:52] <xales> flaco: You could try whining to your bank and asking for a charback.
#2969 [22:52] <jules> i just got it working in debian yesterday, the intructions were bad but the actual process was easy
#2970 [22:52] <xales> flaco: But in the end, you *have* to buy Minecraft again.
#2971 [22:52] <xales> If you want it on a different account.
#2972 [22:52] <Lord_Ralex> hm
#2973 [22:52] * Lord_Ralex is reading lwjgl code
#2973 [22:52] <jules> i noticed a slight fps increase going from openjdk 7 to oracle 7, but not much
#2974 [22:53] <flaco> i wasted my mony
#2975 [22:53] <Lord_Ralex> Chemistry_Geek, also update lwjgl as well
#2976 [22:53] <Lord_Ralex> worth a shot, but at least we can make sure it is the drivers
#2977 [22:53] <xales> flaco: Tell your parents to call the bank and ask for a chargeback.
#2978 [22:53] <Lord_Ralex> or card
#2979 [22:54] <xales> They'll probably give it to you.
#2980 [22:54] <xales> Lord_Ralex: it's not an opengl issue
#2981 [22:54] <xales> it's an xrandr-has-no-opengl-mode-displays
#2982 [22:54] <xales> or
#2983 [22:54] <xales> not an lwjgl issue, I mean
#2984 [22:54] <Lord_Ralex> xales, it is when lwjgl is asking about screens
#2985 [22:54] <flaco> there doing it right now
#2986 [22:54] <xales> I know
#2987 [22:54] <xales> lwjgl says "xrandr do you have any screens that support opengl"
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#2989 [22:54] <xales> xrandr returns none
#2990 [22:54] <xales> lwjgl, being shit, assumes there must be one
#2991 [22:54] <xales> so it crashes
#2992 [22:55] <xales> this means it's a driver issue or the card doesn't support any version of opengl at all
#2993 [22:55] <xales> in this case, it's most likely a driver issue
#2994 [22:55] <Lord_Ralex> xales, then why when i was asking about drivers and screns you said it was the card?
#2995 [22:55] <flaco> hello?
#2996 [22:56] <xales> flaco: Yes?
#2997 [22:56] <flaco> sorry my mom did that
#2998 [22:58] <jules> this says it might be lwjgl: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=155717
#2999 [22:59] <xales> it's the driver
#3000 [22:59] <xales> especially if it works under Ubuntu and not Fedora
#3001 [22:59] <flaco> whaa
#3002 [22:59] <jules> well if he doesn't mind switching i'd say go with ubuntu.
#3003 [22:59] <jules> for minecraft's sake :-)
#3004 [23:00] <xales> flaco: We're talking to someone else, if you haven't gathered that.
#3005 [23:00] * Lord_Ralex still never got his answer about the drivers
#3005 [23:00] <xales> Lord_Ralex: ?
#3006 [23:01] <Lord_Ralex> xales, asked if he had latest drivers, no reply
#3007 [23:01] <flaco> oh sorry i thought you wher talking to me
#3008 [23:01] <xales> ah
#3009 [23:01] <xales> flaco: Messages to you will begin with your name.
#3010 [23:01] <flaco> what?
#3011 [23:01] <xales> The name you chose when you joined is "flaco".
#3012 [23:02] <xales> If someone is talking to you, it will begin with "flaco:"
#3013 [23:02] <flaco> oh
#3014 [23:02] <xales> ?? irc/multitasking
#3015 [23:02] <VoxelHead> irc/multitasking: In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#3016 [23:06] <Chemistry_Geek> I don't know if I have the latest drivers :P
#3017 [23:07] <flaco> the bank said that i can geta refund from the company
#3018 [23:07] <xales> ??> flaco refund
#3019 [23:07] <flaco> cani?
#3020 [23:07] <VoxelHead> flaco: (refund) This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
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#3022 [23:11] <tk3123> I had a premium account that i paid for around late last year and now it's not premium anymore.. I was under the impression it wasn't a subscription based thing
#3023 [23:11] <xales> tk3123: It's not.
#3024 [23:12] <xales> Did you buy the game from minecraft.net ?
#3025 [23:12] <tk3123> I see. I've been using it quite well before, and yes i bought it off minecraft.net
#3026 [23:12] <tk3123> haven't logged on for a few months, and decided to get back into it, then it stops me with "USer not premium"
#3027 [23:12] <xales> What is your username?
#3028 [23:13] <jules> Chemistry_Geek: you can try this page and scroll down to the Fedora section: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/install-proprietary-graphics-drivers-ubuntu-fedora-linux/
#3029 [23:14] <jules> wait, that's not going to work for intel graphics.
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#3033 [23:18] <tk3123> sorry I lost connection
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#3035 [23:19] <xales> tk3123: What's your username?
#3036 [23:19] <joop> I have recently downloaded java and minecraft onto my new desktop. however, unfortunately I do not have my own internet at my new house yet so i had to do it manually. but when i run minecraft, it works until I tell it to play offline then the screen merely goes black. I have tried to see if it will simply load however it seemed to not work. can any of you help?
#3037 [23:19] <tk3123> its the same as my IRC username TK3123
#3038 [23:19] <tk3123> Im trying to look up my paypal records to see if I have indeed paid for it last year
#3039 [23:19] <joop> it would be appreciated
#3040 [23:19] <xales> joop: You need to launch Minecraft once while connected - it's possible to transfer over, but it's not a simple procedure.
#3041 [23:20] <xales> tk3123: Okay, it looks like that username is indeed marked as not premium.
#3042 [23:20] <joop> xales: if you could tell me how it would be very helpful.
#3043 [23:21] <xales> joop: From a computer with Minecraft installed/working, you need to copy the files in %APPDATA%/.minecraft to the same location on your computer.
#3044 [23:21] <joop> oh, is that it?
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#3046 [23:21] <tk3123> hmmm... would there be any reason why it woud be taken off premium
#3047 [23:23] <joop> xales: thank you, I will try this. I'll let you know if it works. I appreciate the help
#3048 [23:23] <xales> tk3123: If the transaction were charged back
#3049 [23:23] <xales> alternatively, if you're looking at the wrong account
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#3051 [23:24] <lisad369_> would anyone know why my luancher wont load?
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#3053 [23:25] <tk3123> hmm records unfortunately don't go that far.
#3054 [23:26] <tk3123> and.. i had another account which I havent used and that was TK31
#3055 [23:26] <tk3123> but that wasnt premium either
#3056 [23:26] * jefe_ is now known as jefe|TimeMachine
#3057 [23:27] <Bugboy1028> not paid as well, tk3123.
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#3059 [23:28] <tk3123> Hmm yea, I paid for tk3123 via paypal last year, and I have played it for quite a bit. so its really strange why it would suddenly say im not a premium user anymore if it isnt a subscription thing
#3060 [23:28] <xales> tk3123: There would be records going back that far on PayPal
#3061 [23:28] <xales> (IIRC PayPal records go indefinitely)
#3062 [23:28] <Wug> tk3123: do you still have your confirmation email
#3063 [23:28] <Wug> because it explicitly instructs you not to delete it
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#3066 [23:33] <tk3123> yes im trying to look for that now
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#3068 [23:39] <firemonkees> everytime i try to play mc it says login failed, right after i changed my skin.
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#3070 [23:40] <xales> "Login Failed" means your username/email or password is wrong, or the account you are logging in to does not own Minecraft
#3071 [23:41] <firemonkees> wow i feel stupid. iforgot i changed my pw...
#3072 [23:41] <firemonkees> ty
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#3074 [23:42] <joop> xales: thank you Xales, the method you suggested worked. My minecraft is now running like a dream.
#3075 [23:42] <xales> joop: great, have fun
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#3077 [23:42] <tk3123> ok.. i can't find anything so it looks like I have to buy.. its a mystery as to how I managed to host multiplayer servers and play multiplayer
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#3079 [23:43] <cestislife> You do not need to own the game to host a server.
#3080 [23:43] <tk3123> oh i see.. but playing on someone else's server does that need a login?
#3081 [23:43] <cestislife> Yes.
#3082 [23:44] <tk3123> I see.. I was playing on multiplayer servers before, and i remember buying it, but I don't have proof of purchase anywhere so thats a dead end haha.. will have to rebuy. Thanks anyway
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#3085 [23:55] <Extreme> why should I do that now?
#3086 [23:55] <Lut> Extreme: discussion in another channel
#3087 [23:56] <tyteen4a03> Lut, s