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#8 [00:12] <paul> what is a good seed for the xbox 360 ?
#9 [00:13] <Gone_Ralex> good is relative
#10 [00:13] <tubelius> I think random seeds are best
#11 [00:13] <Gone_Ralex> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/226-mcx360-seeds/
#12 [00:13] <tubelius> =empty
#13 [00:13] <paul> thanks !!!!!!!!!
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#15 [00:23] <paul> Does anybody have any good seeds they know ?? looking for redstone and iron. thanks
#16 [00:24] <Gone_Ralex> paul, just look for one, http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/226-mcx360-seeds/
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#18 [00:24] <Gone_Ralex> paul, there are millions of seeds, you will have to just either try to find one on your own or browse a site like the forum to find one
#19 [00:26] <paul> sure, i'll find a good one . see ya !!!!!!!!
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#42 [02:25] <Spemble> Is it know why Minecraft crashes when I open my inventory or the menu? I am running a mac.
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#59 [04:59] <rymate1234> hey guys
#60 [04:59] <rymate1234> what's the link to that auto lwjgl updater?
#61 [04:59] <rymate1234> ??> lwjgl
#62 [04:59] <rymate1234> ?? lwjgl
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#64 [05:00] <rymate1234> ?? lwjgl/update
#65 [05:00] <rymate1234> damn
#66 [05:00] <rymate1234> ??< index
#67 [05:00] <rymate1234> ( ! ) Fatal error: Class 'Memcache' not found in /var/www/guru.syfaro.net/faq.php on line 18
#68 [05:00] <rymate1234> ggggg
#69 [05:01] <rymate1234> ??< java/lwjgl
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#104 [08:02] <Andrio> What does 'Item entity 15XXX has no item?!' mean?
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#116 [08:41] <Minecraft13524> dszhgisdghsaiughuoetawe
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#118 [08:41] <Yatornio> Ya
#119 [08:41] <Minecraft13524> pkesaroyjszerihy6iwze5
#120 [08:41] <Minecraft13524> hey gaybiy
#121 [08:42] <Minecraft13524> BWEECH YOUDON@T CONTROL MA BOLS
#122 [08:42] <Yatornio> .mfg,gndfk.gndfljgdrjklgdrjgbdfljgbdfjgbdrjgbdf
#123 [08:42] <Yatornio> Hello
#124 [08:42] <Yatornio> bibguy
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#126 [08:43] <Minecraft13524> hello i needz help
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#128 [08:43] <Minecraft13524> I NEEDZ HALP
#129 [08:43] <Andrio> Minecraft13524, ask.
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#131 [08:43] <Andrio> Preferably without spamming.
#132 [08:43] <Minecraft13524> k
#133 [08:43] <Minecraft13524> i needz help with something
#134 [08:43] <Minecraft13524> can you halp meh?
#135 [08:44] <Minecraft13524> well...
#136 [08:44] <Minecraft13524> canyou?
#137 [08:44] <Minecraft13524> canyou halp meh?
#138 [08:44] <Andrio> Maybe.
#139 [08:44] <Minecraft13524> kk
#140 [08:44] <Minecraft13524> ti needz halp with minecraft shtuff
#141 [08:44] <Minecraft13524> so halp meh
#142 [08:45] <Minecraft13524> well you gonna halp meh or not?
#143 [08:45] <Minecraft13524> SAY SOMETHING OR FIE
#144 [08:45] <Minecraft13524> die*
#145 [08:46] <Andrio> I guess not..
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#158 [09:58] <mitsosyio> Hell
#159 [09:58] <mitsosyio> o
#160 [09:59] <tyteen4a03> hi mitsosyio
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#162 [10:03] <mitsosyio> Hey tyteen i have a problem
#163 [10:03] <mitsosyio> Can you help me?
#164 [10:03] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, shoot
#165 [10:04] <mitsosyio> I have order 1 mc account for my friend
#166 [10:04] <mitsosyio> From my paypal mine money
#167 [10:04] <mitsosyio> "And he tell i will give you the money"
#168 [10:05] <mitsosyio> And now when i speak about the money he ... don't want to speak about that theme and he told me you are not a friend... and much more
#169 [10:05] <mitsosyio> What we can do about this theme?
#170 [10:06] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, that's personal money issue, nothing we can do
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#172 [10:07] <mitsosyio> We can't just get the account back?
#173 [10:08] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, I
#174 [10:08] <tyteen4a03> I'm confused about the whole situation
#175 [10:09] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, so you bought an account for him but he won't pay you?
#176 [10:09] <mitsosyio> Yes
#177 [10:09] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, and now you want the money back?
#178 [10:09] <tyteen4a03> i.e cancel your purchase
#179 [10:09] <mitsosyio> If i can't get the money back If its possible get the account back..
#180 [10:10] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, you can, with your transaction ID
#181 [10:10] <mitsosyio> I have it
#182 [10:10] <mitsosyio> Do you want me to send you?
#183 [10:10] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, no
#184 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, although I strongly recommend that you deal with this in private, you can send a request to regain account ownership with your Mojang account email and transaction ID
#185 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> ??> mitsosyio mojang/email
#186 [10:11] <VoxelHead> mitsosyio: You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#187 [10:13] <mitsosyio> What you mean how?
#188 [10:13] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, dealing this with your friend privately, or how to send an email to Mojang?
#189 [10:13] <mitsosyio> Wait my friend wont to give me back the Account or money
#190 [10:14] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, firstly I suggest that you comfront him and ask for your money or account back before this gets any worse
#191 [10:14] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, although I strongly recommend that you deal with this in private, you can send a request to regain account ownership with your Mojang account email and transaction ID
#192 [10:14] <tyteen4a03> a request to Mojang via email
#193 [10:15] <tyteen4a03> ??> mitsosyio mojang/email
#194 [10:15] <VoxelHead> mitsosyio: You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#195 [10:16] <mitsosyio> As i told you my friend wont give me money or account back... Thats my problem thats why i am here .... So what other we can do?
#196 [10:16] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, please read my message
#197 [10:17] <mitsosyio> And if I don't know his e-mail..?
#198 [10:17] <Necrodoom> what
#199 [10:17] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, if you don't know what Mojang account email he has set to, just send in your transaction ID
#200 [10:18] <tyteen4a03> Necrodoom, classic kid drama
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#202 [10:18] <mitsosyio> Only the Transaction ID ?
#203 [10:19] <tyteen4a03> mitsosyio, yes, and probably the new email too
#204 [10:19] <tyteen4a03> so you have a new set of account information to log in
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#217 [10:37] <Hutzster> I am unable to download it to my pc running windows 8
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#224 [10:54] <HerpDerpWalrus> Hey do you know how to fix the minecraft ticking error?
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#226 [10:57] <HerpDerpWalrus> When ever I go to play minecraft it just quits out with the ticking error
#227 [10:57] <HerpDerpWalrus> I could supply the crash report :D
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#243 [11:29] <dark2222> what IRC channel shull i join to get server help? (im making my 'run server.bat' reboot the server automatic and have some problems)
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#248 [11:36] <QuiteBoringName> dark2222, is it bukkit or vanilla?
#249 [11:37] <dark2222> does that making any change?
#250 [11:38] <QuiteBoringName> Yes.
#251 [11:38] <dark2222> FTB
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#253 [11:40] <dark2222> and i now it's a mod pack that why i asked if they is a IRC channel that i can get help in (i now this IRC non-modded support)
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#255 [11:41] <QuiteBoringName> ./join #ftb for FTB related help
#256 [11:41] <dark2222> ok thanks :)
#257 [11:41] <QuiteBoringName> Not sure if they will offer support but you can ask they will redirect you.
#258 [11:42] <dark2222> ok thanks for the help :)
#259 [11:42] <dark2222> ok thanks for the help :)
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#270 [11:58] <KebbZ> My pal can't connect to my MC server, even though i gave him the IP from "what'smyip.org
#271 [11:58] <KebbZ> i've opened the ports 25565 and such also.
#272 [12:01] <clarjon1> KebbZ: What is your ip?
#273 [12:03] <KebbZ> nevermind, found out the problem
#274 [12:03] <KebbZ> i did the portforwarding wrong
#275 [12:03] <KebbZ> accidentally forwarded the port on my ipad which is 192.168.1.3 instead of pc which is 192.168.1.2
#276 [12:03] <KebbZ> thanks anyway :)
#277 [12:03] <clarjon1> aha
#278 [12:03] <KebbZ> HAve a good day all!
#279 [12:03] <clarjon1> Good catch :)
#280 [12:04] <clarjon1> You too.
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#292 [12:36] <xWizkid_> Hello.
#293 [12:36] <xWizkid_> Is anyone there?
#294 [12:37] <xWizkid_> If anyone can hear me, I need to know, someone on my server stacked armor. Is this possible? If so how?
#295 [12:37] <Calinou> yes, xWizkid_, ask your question
#296 [12:37] <Calinou> armor can't be stacked, except with plugins
#297 [12:37] <xWizkid_> But
#298 [12:37] <xWizkid_> Someone done it on the server?
#299 [12:37] <xWizkid_> They had stacked iron boots, 48 of them.
#300 [12:38] <xWizkid_> There is not a plugin, apparently its a glich or "hack"
#301 [12:38] <tubelius> and your server has no mods?
#302 [12:38] <xWizkid_> No
#303 [12:38] <xWizkid_> None.
#304 [12:38] <tubelius> screenshot?
#305 [12:39] <xWizkid_> It will take to long but
#306 [12:39] <xWizkid_> I can get it if you desperatley need it
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#308 [12:40] <tubelius> I'm having a hard time believing that someone stacked armor in vanilla
#309 [12:40] <tubelius> how do you know they did?
#310 [12:40] <Calinou> no hacks let you edit your inventory, inventory is server side since beta 1.0 (2.5 years ago)
#311 [12:42] <tubelius> there is one way, use /give
#312 [12:43] <tubelius> xWizkid_: do your players have access to "give" command?
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#325 [13:31] <warlord> I am having issues. I see my chat. I can type in it, but when I hit enter, it disappears. I cant see other chats, and it wont let me use commands. Whenever I type /help, it shows nothing.
#326 [13:31] <stupid3700> warlord: Make sure chat and commands are enabled in Multiplayer Options.
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#328 [13:32] <warlord> They are, which is the weirdest thing.
#329 [13:33] <tyteen4a03> warlord, if the chat packets get lost due to too much lag, it happens
#330 [13:34] <warlord> But I also have issues in singleplayer
#331 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> warlord, modded?
#332 [13:34] <warlord> no mods
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#340 [13:44] <tubelius> ??> warlord forceupdate
#341 [13:44] <VoxelHead> warlord: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#342 [13:44] <VoxelHead> warlord: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#343 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> tubelius, warlord> no mods
#344 [13:47] <benhunter09> Force update is still worth a try
#345 [13:48] <tubelius> yeah, I agree
#346 [13:49] <tubelius> some file could be corrupted or something o_O
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#350 [13:56] <lololololol> can some1 link minecraft snapshot please
#351 [13:56] <lololololol> hello?
#352 [13:57] <tubelius> lololololol: http://mojang.com/2013/05/minecraft-snapshot-13w22a/
#353 [13:57] <lololololol> ty
#354 [13:57] <tubelius> Does Mojang webpage have some issues? I get 404
#355 [13:58] <Gone_Ralex> tubelius, yeah
#356 [13:58] <lololololol> yeah it dont work
#357 [13:58] <lololololol> any other link
#358 [13:58] <tubelius> oh
#359 [13:58] <lololololol> plz
#360 [13:58] <tubelius> ??< bot
#361 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> lololololol, what 404?
#362 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> that link?
#363 [13:58] <tubelius> yeah
#364 [13:58] <tubelius> Mojang webpage has issues
#365 [13:59] <lololololol> i need snapshot server link
#366 [13:59] <tubelius> you get 404 every now and then
#367 [13:59] <tyteen4a03> lololololol, http://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/versions/13w22a/minecraft_server.13w22a.jar\
#368 [13:59] <Necrodoom> wait till it works, i guess
#369 [13:59] <tubelius> :)
#370 [13:59] <Necrodoom> not getting a 404 myself
#371 [13:59] <Necrodoom> nvm
#372 [13:59] <tyteen4a03> it seems like the page loads for a second then heads to 404
#373 [13:59] <tubelius> F5 couple times and you get 404
#374 [13:59] <lololololol> that doesnt work^^^^
#375 [13:59] <Necrodoom> auto refresh caused 404
#376 [13:59] <tubelius> ah yeah
#377 [13:59] <Necrodoom> yay for bad coding
#378 [13:59] <tyteen4a03> lololololol, remove the \
#379 [13:59] <lololololol> ummm ok
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#381 [14:00] <tubelius> tyteen4a03: Fatal error: Class 'Memcache' not found in /var/www/guru.syfaro.net/faq.php on line 18 @ http://guru.syfaro.net/faq.php
#382 [14:00] <lololololol> i cant
#383 [14:00] <tubelius> VoxelHead database page has issues too
#384 [14:00] <tyteen4a03> tubelius, server derp
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#386 [14:00] <tubelius> ok, maybe it will be back later
#387 [14:00] <tyteen4a03> tubelius, memcache derped itself
#388 [14:01] <tubelius> :o
#389 [14:01] <lololololol> fudge
#390 [14:01] <tubelius> it seems
#391 [14:01] <tubelius> lololololol: could you be more specific about your issue?
#392 [14:01] <tubelius> lololololol: did you follow that link, what happened?
#393 [14:01] <lololololol> i have fatal error 4 on my normal minecraft failure to launch
#394 [14:01] <tubelius> so you downloaded that server?
#395 [14:02] <tubelius> ??> lololololol pastebin
#396 [14:02] <VoxelHead> lololololol: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#397 [14:02] <lololololol> what do u mean
#398 [14:02] <tyteen4a03> lololololol, full error please?
#399 [14:03] <tyteen4a03> tubelius, all fatal error (number) errors are one-line
#400 [14:03] <lololololol> it says error 4 null failure to launch
#401 [14:03] <lololololol> when i try to update it
#402 [14:04] <tyteen4a03> lololololol, turn off your antivirus
#403 [14:04] <lololololol> i have tried
#404 [14:04] <lololololol> and my firewall to
#405 [14:04] <lololololol> didnt work
#406 [14:04] <lololololol> :(
#407 [14:05] <tyteen4a03> lololololol, what antivirus are you using?
#408 [14:05] <lololololol> let me check
#409 [14:05] <lololololol> web root
#410 [14:05] <tubelius> tyteen4a03: ah, ok
#411 [14:06] <tyteen4a03> lololololol, you may have to uninstall it
#412 [14:06] <tyteen4a03> I vaguely remember a case with webroot AV
#413 [14:06] <lololololol> :()
#414 [14:06] <lololololol> can i temporaly stop it from filtering some how?
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#417 [14:07] <tubelius> lololololol: http://lmgt.com/?q=disable+web+root
#418 [14:19] <lololololol> didnt work
#419 [14:19] <lololololol> :(
#420 [14:20] <tubelius> then try uninstalling it
#421 [14:23] <lololololol> i did
#422 [14:23] <lololololol> it didnt work
#423 [14:23] <lololololol> its out of my hole computer
#424 [14:23] <lololololol> whole
#425 [14:24] <tubelius> try the release instead of snapshot
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#427 [14:25] <lololololol> i did it didnt work it said error
#428 [14:25] <tubelius> which error?
#429 [14:25] <DarkMoon_> Im new to minecraft in the computer and Im having some trouble. which buton do you use to place blocks?
#430 [14:27] <tubelius> 2nd mouse button by default
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#432 [14:27] <tubelius> DarkMoon_: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Controls
#433 [14:27] <DarkMoon_> thanks
#434 [14:27] <tubelius> NP
#435 [14:29] <tyteen4a03> lololololol, in that case you may have to uninstall webroot
#436 [14:29] <lololololol> i did
#437 [14:29] <lololololol> it didnt work
#438 [14:29] <lololololol> :( :( :( :( :(
#439 [14:29] <tyteen4a03> lololololol, go to your control panel, do you have any other programs listed as "AntiVirus" or "Internet Security"?
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#441 [14:31] <tubelius> or firewall.. use the search
#442 [14:31] <lololololol> ok
#443 [14:32] <lololololol> didnt work
#444 [14:34] <tubelius> You don't have any of those applications installed? And you have Minecraft v1.5.2 without any mods?
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#450 [14:55] <tyteen4a03> ??< win/.minecraft
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#466 [15:17] <saniiiiii> Hey guys, I downloaded minecraft 1.5.2 and updated java, but the game crashes after i launch it. any help?
#467 [15:19] <Calinou> saniiiiii, what antivirus do you use?
#468 [15:19] <Calinou> if you use AVG, disable "link scanner"
#469 [15:19] <saniiiiii> avast
#470 [15:19] <Calinou> ah
#471 [15:19] <Calinou> then try updating your graphics driver
#472 [15:19] <saniiiiii> alright
#473 [15:19] <Calinou> (use the manufacturer's website)
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#482 [15:37] <TimF> Who do I speak with about the junk that got recently installed on my computer by your systems?
#483 [15:37] <TimF> Don't you have a customer service number?
#484 [15:37] <benhunter09> What junk?
#485 [15:38] <TimF> extra programs, default search engine over written, pc performance scanner, etc
#486 [15:38] <Calinou> TimF, you installed the wrong minecraft then
#487 [15:38] <TimF> my son was the last one to be on this computer and installed something for minecraft
#488 [15:38] <Calinou> minecraft does NOT do that
#489 [15:39] <Calinou> "something for minecraft" mods aren't supported
#490 [15:39] <TimF> he plays minecraf
#491 [15:39] <Calinou> it's your problem if you go to fake sites, if you want to download additional content, do it from the official source
#492 [15:40] <Calinou> by the way, there is many software that allows removing adware, or you could just remove the adware itself (which unfortunately isn't that easy to find)
#493 [15:40] <TimF> what official URL should be be using? can you direct me to a list of the fake sikes>
#494 [15:40] <Calinou> there is none
#495 [15:41] <Calinou> basically, if you're downloading a mod, make sure you're downloading from the official website (usually on the minecraft forums)
#496 [15:41] <TimF> there is not official URL?
#497 [15:41] <stupid3700> TimF: However, you can check sites against sites like http://www.mywot.com/ to see if people report them to be malicious.
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#499 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> TimF: http://www.minecraft.net/
#500 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> TimF: ^ This is the only officially sanctioned site from which to purchase or download minecraft
#501 [15:42] <TimF> what is cowcraft? I have heard him talk about connecting to a sever called cowcraft?
#502 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> CowCraft sounds like either a mod or a server.
#503 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> Or a leatherworks shop
#504 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> or herhaps an artisan cheese shop
#505 [15:43] <TimF> cowcraft is a server he connects too
#506 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> Okay, so it's a server. Presuming that the server requires no mods to be installed, it is not related to any malware that may have been installed on your system.
#507 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> If your son installed any mods from.. shall we say 'less than morally upright' distribution sites, it's certainly possible that some malware came along for the ride. This is one reason that mods are not officially supported.
#508 [15:45] <TimF> Thank you. He is in deep sh** I'll chat with my son
#509 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> I would suggest downloading and stilling this program to try to clean out your system:
#510 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> TimF win/mse
#511 [15:45] <VoxelHead> TimF: Microsoft Security Essentials: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/security-essentials-download
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#513 [15:45] <TimF> thank you.
#514 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> You're welcome; and good luck
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#526 [16:16] <dellsamkim> my minecraft server works for me but not to my friends anymore because i think i changed the variabe path plz help
#527 [16:16] <Extreme> honestly, malware bytes is more effective
#528 [16:16] <Extreme> dellsamkim: variable path?
#529 [16:16] <Extreme> dellsamkim: what do you mean?
#530 [16:16] <dellsamkim> variable value
#531 [16:17] <dellsamkim> i had to change it for
#532 [16:17] <Extreme> dellsamkim: variable value is not a valid issue
#533 [16:17] <dellsamkim> a shortcut for java to create an app or something
#534 [16:17] <dellsamkim> oh
#535 [16:18] <Extreme> dellsamkim: does minecraft launch?
#536 [16:18] <tyteen4a03> ??- mac/.minecraft/lion|Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#537 [16:18] <dellsamkim> yes and i can join my server
#538 [16:18] <tyteen4a03> ??- mac/.minecraft/lion
#539 [16:18] <dellsamkim> using localhost
#540 [16:18] <Extreme> dellsamkim: are you using a router?
#541 [16:18] <dellsamkim> yes
#542 [16:18] <Calinou> who doesn't, Extreme :P
#543 [16:18] <Extreme> dellsamkim: did you port-forward?
#544 [16:18] <dellsamkim> it worked yesterday
#545 [16:18] <Calinou> very few ISPs allow that already :P
#546 [16:19] <dellsamkim> but it stopped working
#547 [16:19] <Calinou> dellsamkim, your internal IP changed, maybe
#548 [16:19] <clarjon1> dellsamkim: did you reboot since then?
#549 [16:19] <dellsamkim> no i checked
#550 [16:19] <dellsamkim> its the same
#551 [16:19] <Calinou> a router restart, or even your PC being off for a long time can cause it to change
#552 [16:19] <dellsamkim> i think i did something to java
#553 [16:19] <Calinou> what thing? do you remember?
#554 [16:19] <Extreme> dellsamkim: Java is not the issue
#555 [16:19] <dellsamkim> i know but i checked it on ipchicken
#556 [16:19] <dellsamkim> its still the same
#557 [16:19] <clarjon1> dellsamkim: That's your External IP
#558 [16:19] <Calinou> ipchicken tells your external IP
#559 [16:19] <clarjon1> dellsamkim: Your LAN IP may have changed :)
#560 [16:19] <Calinou> your internal IP is the IP used for port forwarding, it needs to be correct too
#561 [16:20] <dellsamkim> so how should i fix it it worked yesterday but it doesent today
#562 [16:20] <dellsamkim> all of a sudden
#563 [16:20] <clarjon1> dellsamkim: Just follow the same steps you did to set up port forwarding again
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#565 [16:20] <Calinou> dellsamkim, what operating system do you use?
#566 [16:21] <dellsamkim> windows 64 bit
#567 [16:21] <dellsamkim> sony vaio
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#569 [16:21] <Calinou> dellsamkim, open a command line (Windows+R then type "cmd"), then type "ipconfig" without quotes
#570 [16:22] <Calinou> look at IPv4 Address
#571 [16:22] <Calinou> that is your internal IP
#572 [16:22] <dellsamkim> i know
#573 [16:22] <dellsamkim> it says it is not reconised now
#574 [16:23] <Calinou> huh?
#575 [16:23] <dellsamkim> as an internal or external command
#576 [16:23] <Calinou> you typed it wrong then
#577 [16:23] <dellsamkim> no i didnt
#578 [16:23] <dellsamkim> ipconfig
#579 [16:24] <Calinou> make sure you didn't begin with a space, or a capital I
#580 [16:24] <Calinou> (well, commands are case insensitive on windows)
#581 [16:24] <dellsamkim> i know i didnt
#582 [16:24] <clarjon1> oh
#583 [16:24] <clarjon1> you're on Vista
#584 [16:24] <clarjon1> right?
#585 [16:24] <dellsamkim> no windows 8
#586 [16:24] <clarjon1> Try running cmd as an administrator
#587 [16:25] <dellsamkim> how?
#588 [16:27] <clarjon1> Press the Windows key and X on the keyboard at the same time, a menu should pop up, with one of the options being "Command Prompt(admin)"
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#590 [16:28] <clarjon1> Once that is opened, then try ipconfig
#591 [16:28] <dellsamkim> ok it worked
#592 [16:28] <dellsamkim> no what?
#593 [16:28] <helpmeplz> when i try to find out my username and put in my email it says my email isnt on record
#594 [16:28] <dellsamkim> now what
#595 [16:28] <clarjon1> Make sure that the IPv4 address from ipconfig matches the IP you have in your port forwarding configuration on your router.
#596 [16:28] <clarjon1> If not, update it for the new IP
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#598 [16:29] <helpmeplz> when i try to find out my username and put in my email it says my email isnt on record
#599 [16:30] <helpmeplz> no one is gonna help?
#600 [16:30] <helpmeplz> WTF
#601 [16:30] <dellsamkim> but its set as sam-vaio
#602 [16:30] <helpmeplz> -__
#603 [16:30] <dellsamkim> and my computer is sam vaio
#604 [16:30] <helpmeplz> -___-
#605 [16:30] <clarjon1> dellsamkim: Nono, look for something like "192.168.1.100" or similar
#606 [16:30] <helpmeplz> HELP
#607 [16:30] <helpmeplz> HELLO
#608 [16:30] <clarjon1> helpmeplz: Bloody calm down.
#609 [16:30] <helpmeplz> ok jeez
#610 [16:31] <helpmeplz> can u help me
#611 [16:31] <clarjon1> helpmeplz: No need to be screaming and flailing about. Just state your problem, and wait. If a volunteer here can help, he or she will offer assistance.
#612 [16:31] <helpmeplz> ok
#613 [16:32] <clarjon1> dellsamkim: You'll want to check that IP against your router settings for port forwarding :)
#614 [16:32] <dellsamkim> i did but it only has my computer name and when i physiclly type my ip in it doesent let me choose it
#615 [16:32] <helpmeplz> when i try to find out my username by putting in my email , it says my email isnt on record
#616 [16:33] <clarjon1> Hm.
#617 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Then either you used a different email, or that email address was changed.
#618 [16:34] <clarjon1> dellsamkim: Well, try deleting the port forwarding, and re-adding it then. Some routers don't automatically update properly :)
#619 [16:34] <helpmeplz> ok thanks
#620 [16:35] <dellsamkim> isnt there a way i can test it
#621 [16:35] <dellsamkim> online
#622 [16:35] <dellsamkim> like on a website
#623 [16:37] <dellsamkim> i recently installed eclipse, jdk, and sdk manager if that is the problem?
#624 [16:38] <dellsamkim> and changed some enviroment variables
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#626 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> And that would be why
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#628 [16:40] <clarjon1> .check dellsamkim
#629 [16:40] <dellsamkim> what do u mean gretvulpine?
#630 [16:40] <clarjon1> !check dellsamkim
#631 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> "changed some environment variables" <-- reason why 'ipconfig' will not work
#632 [16:40] <clarjon1> !check bas1-oakville54-3096610934.dsl.bell.ca
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#634 [16:41] <dellsamkim> that is my ip
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#636 [16:42] <dellsamkim> so how do i make my server work again/
#637 [16:42] <dellsamkim> ?
#638 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Undoing the changes you made in your environment variables. Redoing your port forwarding
#639 [16:43] <dellsamkim> is there a way i can set it to default?
#640 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> No
#641 [16:43] <dellsamkim> the enviro ent variables
#642 [16:43] <dellsamkim> because i changed the path
#643 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Indeed you did.
#644 [16:44] <dellsamkim> but right now it is c:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin
#645 [16:44] <dellsamkim> is this right?
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#647 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Only if you wish to run java through the cmd prompt, and nothing else at all
#648 [16:45] <dellsamkim> wwwis is this the problem?
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#650 [16:45] <dellsamkim> or the port forwarding
#651 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> That would be one aspect of the problem, yes.
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#653 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> The other aspect is your port forwarding
#654 [16:45] <dellsamkim> because after i changed that it stopped working
#655 [16:45] <kayla575> my minecraft wont load
#656 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> kayla575 - How doesn't it laod?
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#658 [16:46] <dellsamkim> but how do i first fix the path system variable
#659 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> dellsamkim - By finding a default envrionment path variable and entering it back in
#660 [16:47] <kayla575> its lets me log in and but right after it says mojang the screen just turns black and does nothing
#661 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> kayla575 - Has it worked before?
#662 [16:47] <dellsamkim> how may one acieve that default enviroment path variable and how do i apply it i am in the edit path variable now
#663 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> dellsamkim - Google. Same way you changed it before
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#665 [16:48] <dellsamkim> no but i dont know what it was when i changed it
#666 [16:48] <kayla575> yes but my laptop froze and i got scared and shut it down because i didnt want to lose my stuff on minecraft and then when i turned it back on it wouldnt work
#667 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> kayla575 - Try a force update.
#668 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> ??> kayla575 forceupdate
#669 [16:49] <VoxelHead> kayla575: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#670 [16:49] <VoxelHead> kayla575: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#671 [16:50] <kayla575> ok one sec ill try it
#672 [16:50] <dellsamkim> vulpine i dont know what the path variable value was when i changed it
#673 [16:51] <kayla575> it didnt work
#674 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> dellsamkim - Google is your friend.
#675 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> dellsamkim - Oh look: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-system/what-are-the-original-path-environment-variables/cbbd9221-4548-4f11-af7f-0ff8b3328e5d
#676 [16:52] <kayla575> it didnt work is there anything else i can do?
#677 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> "The orginal PATH is: %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;"
#678 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> kayla575 - Try reinstalling the original minecraft files with:
#679 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> ??> kayla575 win/reinst
#680 [16:52] <VoxelHead> kayla575: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#681 [16:52] <VoxelHead> kayla575: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#682 [16:53] <dellsamkim> is this it %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;?
#683 [16:53] <kayla575> ok im not good with computers so it might take me a while brb!
#684 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> dellsamkim - Yes
#685 [16:54] <dellsamkim> ok thanks now should it work?
#686 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> dellsamkim - No, ipconfig should now work.
#687 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> dellsamkim - You then use that, to port forward again
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#689 [16:55] <kayla575> what am i not sappost to delete?
#690 [16:55] <kayla575> and sorry for my spelling
#691 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> ??> kayla575 win/reinst
#692 [16:56] <VoxelHead> kayla575: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#693 [16:56] <VoxelHead> kayla575: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#695 [16:59] <tyteen4a03> ??- scold/spam
#696 [16:59] <tyteen4a03> ??~ scold/repeat|There is absolutely no need to repeat messages in IRC. We can hear you just fine, and your text does not disappear automagically.;;Failure to follow this rule is very irritating, clouds the chat, and is almost certain you get you kicked for spamming.
#697 [17:03] <tubelius> ??< scold/spam
#698 [17:03] <tubelius> ??< scold/repeat
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#702 [17:06] <tyteen4a03> ??+ scold/telepathy|We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having. How can we help you?
#703 [17:06] <tyteen4a03> ??- telepathy
#704 [17:06] <dellsamkim> how do i check if my port forwarding works
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#706 [17:09] <kayla575> THANK YOU! it works :)
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#709 [17:12] <Legendisstupid> Can someone help me, my client crashed loading mods
#710 [17:12] <Legendisstupid> My minecraft crashed whilst loading some mods i installed with forge can someone read the error report and help me?
#711 [17:13] <Legendisstupid> http://pastebin.com/k7Q3kG28
#712 [17:13] <Legendisstupid> No one?
#713 [17:13] <Legendisstupid> Alrighty
#714 [17:13] <Extreme> ?? mods
#715 [17:14] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#716 [17:14] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#717 [17:14] <Legendisstupid> I know how to install mods
#718 [17:14] <Extreme> Legendisstupid, not the point
#719 [17:14] <Extreme> Legendisstupid, we don't support mods her
#720 [17:14] <Extreme> here*
#721 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Then delete your bin folder, relaunch minecraft to get the vanilla files again, and remod
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#723 [17:15] <Beetlejuice> Hey Guys
#724 [17:15] <Legendisstupid> .... So no one will help me? ok then
#725 [17:15] <Legendisstupid> Took me forever to find an active IRC
#726 [17:15] <Beetlejuice> I´m a little frustrated can anyone help me ?
#727 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Legendisstupid - Then delete your bin folder, relaunch minecraft to get the vanilla files again, and remod
#728 [17:15] <Legendisstupid> Yes Beetle?
#729 [17:15] <Extreme> Legendisstupid, you can try asing in #rusucraft
#730 [17:16] <Extreme> #risucraft*
#731 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Risucraft will laugh at you for asking
#732 [17:16] <Legendisstupid> no one is there..
#733 [17:16] <Beetlejuice> I got minecraft and can´t get on tekkit lite i downloaded it it but the update fail alwways
#734 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Beetlejuice - Have you paid for minecraft?
#735 [17:16] <Legendisstupid> Beetlejuice
#736 [17:16] <Beetlejuice> my mac is 10.5.8 and can´t download java 7
#737 [17:16] <Extreme> Legendisstupid, the channel is #risucraft
#738 [17:17] <Legendisstupid> THey told e they dont affiliate with mods
#739 [17:17] <Beetlejuice> Yes it is paid already
#740 [17:17] <Legendisstupid> So dont bother,,
#741 [17:17] <Extreme> Legendisstupid, I don't even see you there
#742 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Extreme - #risucraft is not for modding support. This has been communicated with us and other channels.
#743 [17:17] <Legendisstupid> you said #rusucraft before
#744 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Extreme - We've been asked to not direct modding help to there.
#745 [17:18] <Extreme> ah, ok
#746 [17:18] <Beetlejuice> Can anyone help?
#747 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> For tekkit, try their website or their IRC
#748 [17:18] <tyteen4a03> ??~ win/startmenu|If you can't find the Start Button on your screen, press Ctrl+Esc, or the Windows key (between Ctrl and Alt on most keyboards)
#749 [17:18] <Extreme> Beetlejuice, what is the issue?
#750 [17:19] <Beetlejuice> i alway get the message update failed!
#751 [17:19] <Beetlejuice> So i can´t log into tekkit lite
#752 [17:19] <Beetlejuice> to play with my friends
#753 [17:20] <Legendisstupid> have you tried deleting the entire .Tekkitlauncher folder in your roaming?
#754 [17:20] <Legendisstupid> that always worked for me
#755 [17:20] <Beetlejuice> Yes i did
#756 [17:21] <Legendisstupid> YOur computer might be blocking some stuff also
#757 [17:21] <Legendisstupid> thats what happened with me
#758 [17:21] <Legendisstupid> disable your firewall for a second then try
#759 [17:21] <Extreme> Beetlejuice, is the issue with just Tekkit?
#760 [17:21] <Beetlejuice> Yes
#761 [17:21] <Beetlejuice> what is a firewall on mac?
#762 [17:21] <Extreme> Beetlejuice, try reinstalling it, or contacting the mod developers
#763 [17:22] <Extreme> ??> Beetlejuice mods
#764 [17:22] <VoxelHead> Beetlejuice: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#765 [17:22] <VoxelHead> Beetlejuice: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#767 [17:23] <Legendisstupid> you have a mac?
#768 [17:23] <Legendisstupid> Oh dear lord
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#770 [17:24] <tyteen4a03> Beetlejuice, Minecraft will cease to support Mac 10.5 or below starting from 1.6, and 1.5 support are a bit crummy
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#772 [17:25] <tyteen4a03> ??- mac/10.5/mc1.5
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#774 [17:26] <tyteen4a03> ??- xbox/tu9/serverlost
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#776 [17:28] <tyteen4a03> ??- test
#777 [17:28] <tyteen4a03> ??- hacked
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#779 [17:32] <tyteen4a03> ??+ transactionid/list|If you have lost your transaction ID, an alternative method of identity verification is by sending Mojang your last 4 digit of Credit Card number and the card holder name. This only works if you paid by Credit Card (not PayPal).
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#782 [17:49] <bearskin98> to save hdd space could I coppy a game and play it from a cd-rw or would a usb be faster?
#783 [17:55] <bearskin98> anyone?
#784 [17:56] <tyteen4a03> bearskin98, no
#785 [17:56] <Extreme> bearskin98, you could
#786 [17:56] <tyteen4a03> bearskin98, USB will not be any faster than HDD, unless you're on USB 3.0
#787 [17:56] <bearskin98> but will a cd be as fast as a hdd
#788 [17:57] <tyteen4a03> bearskin98, no
#789 [17:57] <bearskin98> dang
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#796 [18:16] <Beetlejuice> I made it thank you guys
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#799 [18:19] <SmilePyrVulpi> Hi. I have been having the same problems over and over. I know that my Windows is completely updated. I don't know if anyone is on.
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#815 [19:39] <Ankil> Hi guys. Anyone knows about a book that can switch you from your original world to another in Minecraft Multi?
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#825 [19:53] <ipjone> i need help, my son has an iphone and the minecraft, pocket ed. is there anyone that can tell me, can i back up the world he created before i have to restore the phone?
#826 [19:57] <ipjone> hello?
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#834 [20:26] <ipjone> can anyone give me support for iphone? if not where do i go? no link for support on the app
#835 [20:26] <ipjone> darn, meant iphone app.
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#852 [21:29] <KJ4IPS> Anyone know what method the MCFourms pinger uses, it does not see me, but the applet on dinnerblog can, as well as just a plain IMCP ECHO... any ideas?
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#854 [21:31] <Juqe> I'm ahving a problem with Minecraft closing randomly without warning and with no errors. Can someone help me?
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#856 [21:32] <KJ4IPS> Juqe, What platform are you on?
#857 [21:33] <Juqe> Windows 7? What do you mean by platform?
#858 [21:33] <KJ4IPS> that is what I meant
#859 [21:33] <Rabblerouser> So I got the shock of my life in the nether, thinking stone pressure plates were still unable be be triggered by mobs
#860 [21:33] <KJ4IPS> do you know how to open a command prompt Juqe?
#861 [21:33] <Juqe> yes
#862 [21:33] <KJ4IPS> fire one up and do "java -version"
#863 [21:34] <Juqe> it says...
#864 [21:34] <Juqe> 1.6.0_22
#865 [21:34] <KJ4IPS> Try updating to java seven, as a first attempt
#866 [21:34] <KJ4IPS> 64-bit if your system supports it: java.sun.com
#867 [21:35] <KJ4IPS> wait, wrong link
#868 [21:35] <KJ4IPS> this one: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
#869 [21:36] <Juqe> ok give me a second
#870 [21:36] <KJ4IPS> You want "Windows x64" if you are 64-bit "Windows x86" otherwise
#871 [21:37] <Juqe> yup it's downloading :) thanks for your help by the way
#872 [21:37] <KJ4IPS> If that does not work, we can start MC from the command line so that we can see the console output
#873 [21:39] <Juqe> java 7 has installed, so if i get the crash again i'll come back here :) thanks a bunch
#874 [21:39] <KJ4IPS> Have a good day/night!
#875 [21:40] <Juqe> thanks, you too :)
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#879 [21:49] <Tychotesla> Hello! My friend is trying to host a server, and I'm trying to join it. We think we're doing everything correctly, but I keep getting a "can't reach server" response in minecraft.
#880 [21:49] <KJ4IPS> Who is your friends ISP, and have you done the port foward?
#881 [21:50] <KJ4IPS> correction, has your friend done the port foward
#882 [21:50] <Tychotesla> "Comcast???" she says. Port forwarding, we're pretty sure we've done that. Yes.
#883 [21:50] <Tychotesla> She asks:
#884 [21:51] <Tychotesla> does UDP/TCP/ all matter? she's tried them all.
#885 [21:51] <KJ4IPS> Ok, we can check on that port, (ALL) let me cchek if something is here
#886 [21:51] <KJ4IPS> .mcping example.org
#887 [21:51] <KJ4IPS> nope... darn
#888 [21:51] <CrusaderDeleters> What is the difference between UDP/TPC?
#889 [21:51] <KJ4IPS> TCP is used for the minecraft game, UDP for the Query
#890 [21:52] <KJ4IPS> both protocols work in fundamentally different ways
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#892 [21:52] <CrusaderDeleters> I know they do, and TCP isn't only for MC Games
#893 [21:52] <KJ4IPS> For the game to work, at least TCP must be enabled
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#895 [21:52] <Gone_Ralex> CrusaderDeleters, reliability
#896 [21:52] <KJ4IPS> TCP is the most popular control protocal on the internet
#897 [21:52] <Tychotesla> "All" then.
#898 [21:52] <Gone_Ralex> in short, one is reliable, one is fast
#899 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> and overhead
#900 [21:52] <KJ4IPS> Tychotesla, Yes
#901 [21:52] <CrusaderDeleters> KJ4IPS: TCP must be enabled to play MC?
#902 [21:53] <Gone_Ralex> CrusaderDeleters, MC uses tcp
#903 [21:53] <KJ4IPS> CrusaderDeleters, Yes, unless some other network magic is being used
#904 [21:53] <Gone_Ralex> online gaming is kinda better with udp though
#905 [21:53] <KJ4IPS> Let's get back on track here!
#906 [21:53] <CrusaderDeleters> I've had to enable TCP and UDP for Slender Surviver
#907 [21:53] <Tychotesla> Could I give one of you the IP address to make sure that it's not a problem at my end?
#908 [21:53] <KJ4IPS> Sure use /msg
#909 [21:54] <CrusaderDeleters> use !check <ip>:<port>
#910 [21:54] <KJ4IPS> ah, I had the wrong trigger
#911 [21:54] <KJ4IPS> !check notanothercraft.net:25565
#912 [21:54] <CrusaderDeleters> ^
#913 [21:54] <KJ4IPS> Darn, wish I had known about that earlier
#914 [21:55] <CrusaderDeleters> If your port is :25565, you can just denote that.
#915 [21:55] <CrusaderDeleters> MC Will automatically check for 25565 if no port is entered.
#916 [21:55] <KJ4IPS> Figured as much, but did not want to leave it out of the example
#917 [21:55] <CrusaderDeleters> !check notanothercraft.net
#918 [21:55] <KJ4IPS> !triggers
#919 [21:55] <KJ4IPS> nope...
#920 [21:56] <Tychotesla> !check <71.231.69.240>:<25565>
#921 [21:56] <Tychotesla> Hmmmmm...
#922 [21:56] <KJ4IPS> Tychotesla, dont add the brackest
#923 [21:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Tychotesla: it's going to look like: "!check 71.231.69.240"
#924 [21:56] <Tychotesla> Ah!
#925 [21:56] <Tychotesla> Notation! thanks.
#926 [21:56] <Tychotesla> !check 71.231.69.240
#927 [21:56] <CrusaderDeleters> !check 24.152.224.159
#928 [21:57] <CrusaderDeleters> !check 24.152.224.159:25567
#929 [21:57] <Tychotesla> OK, so any thoughts? Anything we can try?
#930 [21:57] <CrusaderDeleters> See, port matters. :P
#931 [21:57] <Tychotesla> !check 71.231.69.240:25565
#932 [21:57] <KJ4IPS> First, what OS is the server on, if linux what distro/version
#933 [21:57] <Tychotesla> Windows.
#934 [21:58] <KJ4IPS> Ok, lets check on the windows firewall first, Is win 7?
#935 [21:59] <Tychotesla> Yes.
#936 [21:59] <KJ4IPS> Hang on a sec.
#937 [22:00] <KJ4IPS> Start -> Control Panel -> System and Security -> Windows Firewall -> Advanced Settings
#938 [22:00] <Tychotesla> OK.
#939 [22:00] <KJ4IPS> Let me know when that is up
#940 [22:01] <KJ4IPS> From there, choose Inbound rules on the left, then click New Rule... on the right
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#942 [22:01] <KJ4IPS> Once there Let me know
#943 [22:02] <Tychotesla> (this is a little delayed because we're talking over gchat voice, with the server in a different room)
#944 [22:02] <KJ4IPS> Thats just fine
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#946 [22:03] <Tychotesla> OK.
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#949 [22:04] <KJ4IPS> Now select Port, and click Next
#950 [22:04] * SinZ|offline is now known as SinZ
#951 [22:04] <KJ4IPS> Leave the protocol as TCP, and the enter your port in the lower box (default is 25565)
#952 [22:05] <Tychotesla> Done
#953 [22:05] <KJ4IPS> Then hit next, confirm that Allow the connection is selected, then next again
#954 [22:06] <KJ4IPS> afterh that, check that all three boxes are checked, then next again
#955 [22:06] <Tychotesla> Done.
#956 [22:06] <KJ4IPS> Finally, give the rule a descriptive name (like Minecraft Server (TCP)) and then hit finish
#957 [22:07] <KJ4IPS> Optionally, you can repeat the process for UDP (selecting UDP on the second page and renaming), so that some query systems will work, but this is not nessacary for gameplay.
#958 [22:08] <KJ4IPS> I really should make a guide for that
#959 [22:08] <cfuentea> AWS?
#960 [22:08] <KJ4IPS> cfuentea, Amazon Web Services???
#961 [22:08] <cfuentea> that can be a good guide for newbies
#962 [22:08] <Tychotesla> !check 71.231.69.240:25565
#963 [22:09] <KJ4IPS> darn
#964 [22:09] <cfuentea> yeah KJ
#965 [22:09] <cfuentea> with ec2
#966 [22:09] <cfuentea> the t1.micro is perfect for noobs :D
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#968 [22:10] <KJ4IPS> ok, try having your friend (from another conputer on his network) connect to the server with it's internal address (probably starts with 192.168)
#969 [22:10] <KJ4IPS> That way we know if the problem is in his computer or not
#970 [22:10] <Tychotesla> Just to be clear, at no point was I supposed to do anything besides put the server name and IP, right?
#971 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> KJ4IPS: Ever tried portforward.com?
#972 [22:11] <KJ4IPS> CrusaderDeleters, Does that cover windows firewall?
#973 [22:11] <Tychotesla> !check 71.231.69.240:25965
#974 [22:11] <KJ4IPS> !check 71.231.69.240
#975 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> That covers how to port forward, and a program that can turn your computer into a static ip
#976 [22:11] <KJ4IPS> Hang on a sec..
#977 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> It can even cover in deep detail for almost every router there is
#978 [22:12] <cfuentea> try using the DMZ
#979 [22:12] <KJ4IPS> Also, if the server computer is DHCP, it's internal IP may have changed, making the port forward invaild
#980 [22:12] <Tychotesla> (they are connected now, from a different computer)
#981 [22:12] <CrusaderDeleters> KJ4IPS: It changes every time you lose connection to router.
#982 [22:12] <KJ4IPS> That works, so it is not the WinDos firewall
#983 [22:12] <CrusaderDeleters> If it's not Static IP
#984 [22:13] <KJ4IPS> some router can be set to always give a certan MAC a specific IP
#985 [22:13] <KJ4IPS> most of them can
#986 [22:13] <KJ4IPS> In fact, I dont think I have ever had one that could not (but that is IME, YMMV)
#987 [22:13] <cfuentea> certain IP to a specific MAC.
#988 [22:13] <cfuentea> (sorry the correction)
#989 [22:13] <cfuentea> aaww
#990 [22:13] <KJ4IPS> it was right it gives the mac the ip address
#991 [22:14] <cfuentea> my bad, sorry
#992 [22:14] <KJ4IPS> darn my unsusal grammar
#993 [22:14] <Tychotesla> (Also, if the server computer is DHCP, it's internal IP may have changed, making the port forward invaild) She says "that's how I broke the router last time, I was trying to make a static IP but then it stopped working"
#994 [22:14] <KJ4IPS> OK, who makes the router
#995 [22:15] <Tychotesla> TPLink
#996 [22:15] <cfuentea> :O
#997 [22:15] <KJ4IPS> darn, never had one of those, let me scour the net for a moment
#998 [22:15] <Tychotesla> Model No. TL-WR841N
#999 [22:15] <KJ4IPS> Found it!
#1000 [22:15] <Tychotesla> "there's a dhcp client list showing both my computers, and more"
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#1002 [22:16] <KJ4IPS> Have your friend go to DHCP -> Addresss Reservation
#1003 [22:16] <Tychotesla> OK
#1004 [22:16] <Tychotesla> "Add new?"
#1005 [22:16] <KJ4IPS> Also, in another window, ON THER SERVER COMPUTER, open a command prompt, and type ipconfig /all
#1006 [22:16] <Tychotesla> "What's a MAC address?"
#1007 [22:16] <cfuentea> uufff
#1008 [22:16] <KJ4IPS> A MAC address is like a serial number for your computer's network card
#1009 [22:17] <KJ4IPS> it never changes
#1010 [22:17] <Tychotesla> Got it.
#1011 [22:17] <KJ4IPS> using this page, we can assign an IP address to the servers MAC, and it will always get that one
#1012 [22:17] <cfuentea> the mac address is the physical direction from your network card, it contains the vendor id
#1013 [22:17] <cfuentea> and is your ID in a network (layer 2)
#1014 [22:18] <Tychotesla> OK.
#1015 [22:18] <DopeGhoti> MAC Address: Media Access Control address. An (ostensibly) unique identifier built into any networkable device.
#1016 [22:18] <KJ4IPS> lets reel in in, guys/gals
#1017 [22:18] <Tychotesla> "I do this all the time, I'm already at ipconfig /all"
#1018 [22:19] <KJ4IPS> so, find the mac address (marked Physical Address) for the network card
#1019 [22:19] <KJ4IPS> there is probably more than one, but likley, only one has an IP address that is inside the network
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#1021 [22:21] <Tychotesla> A little confused here perhaps. Hold on.
#1022 [22:21] <KJ4IPS> Once you have that, enter it on the Add New... page on the router, and then choose an IP address to use, the first three parts (eg 192.168.255) myust be the same (i know that exampe is invalid), but the last one can be anywhere between 2 and 254
#1023 [22:21] <Tychotesla> Would it be something like: 00-24-22-7E-H9-D9?
#1024 [22:21] <KJ4IPS> yes
#1025 [22:21] <Tychotesla> Or 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0?
#1026 [22:21] <KJ4IPS> the first one
#1027 [22:21] <Tychotesla> K
#1028 [22:21] <cfuentea> this is an explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9tYtpbnnP0
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#1030 [22:21] <VoxelHead> "Find your MAC Address Windows" ( by colt082295 )
#1031 [22:22] <cfuentea> what a nice bot :)
#1032 [22:22] <Tychotesla> Still on the server computer, right?
#1033 [22:22] <KJ4IPS> yes
#1034 [22:23] <KJ4IPS> Once that is enterd into the router and saved, from the command prompt: "ipconfig /release
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#1036 [22:24] <KJ4IPS> and then ipconfig /renew (the net connection will be broken between the commands)
#1037 [22:24] <KJ4IPS> so tell your friend both before doing either
#1038 [22:25] <Tychotesla> (Out of curiosity while we wait, how does a MAC address manifest itself? Is it literally hard-coded?)
#1039 [22:25] <KJ4IPS> yes
#1040 [22:25] <KJ4IPS> but in some cases it can be overridden
#1041 [22:25] <KJ4IPS> it has two parts, the first three sections tell the manufacturer, the last are ususally sequential
#1042 [22:25] <Tychotesla> "Shit I'm about to reboot, I'll be in touch by phone if my router breaks"
#1043 [22:26] <cfuentea> :-O
#1044 [22:26] <KJ4IPS> the fun of networking... (Windows Update?)
#1045 [22:26] <Tychotesla> This was before I told her about ipconfig /release, btw.
#1046 [22:27] * KJ4IPS sighs, as he relises that his chunky render has 39 hours to go...
#1046 [22:28] <cfuentea> rendering with Maya?
#1047 [22:28] <KJ4IPS> Nope (poor college student)
#1048 [22:28] <KJ4IPS> Chunky is a CPU based Path Tracing render for minecraft works
#1049 [22:29] <KJ4IPS> It produces really nice results, but takes FOREVER
#1050 [22:29] <cfuentea> ahps
#1051 [22:29] <cfuentea> i didnt know about it
#1052 [22:29] <KJ4IPS> The CPU-Only bit kinda sucks...
#1053 [22:29] <Tychotesla> Back online. She says she's done the choosing IP address. Told her both new instructions.
#1054 [22:30] <KJ4IPS> ok, have her check the ip address that her computer got (after running the commands)
#1055 [22:30] * cfuentea choosing a new movie on TPB :-D
#1055 [22:30] <KJ4IPS> should be the one we sepcified in the router
#1056 [22:31] <Tychotesla> Heh. I sent her the instructions with your name attached: "What's that jargle, scripture?"
#1057 [22:31] <KJ4IPS> Its a ham call
#1058 [22:32] <KJ4IPS> cfuentea, Here is an in-progress, the noise will clean itself up over time http://imgur.com/4Kp2siU
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#1061 [22:33] <Tychotesla> "Which IP address, my internal? It is what I told it to be"
#1062 [22:33] <KJ4IPS> Good, did mean the internal
#1063 [22:34] <KJ4IPS> Now go re-set the port forward to the new IP
#1064 [22:34] <Tychotesla> "oooooooooooohhhhhhhhh. Uuuuuurrrrrghgghhhhh."
#1065 [22:35] <KJ4IPS> Ok, that was interesting...
#1066 [22:35] <cfuentea> KJ4IPS wow, very cool
#1067 [22:35] <KJ4IPS> q is voiceed-only right?
#1068 [22:35] <cfuentea> -i is voice only
#1069 [22:35] <Syfaro> q is quiet, so you can't talk
#1070 [22:35] <cfuentea> i mean +i
#1071 [22:35] <KJ4IPS> ah...
#1072 [22:36] <KJ4IPS> cfuentea, Memory says it was mentioned recently on OMGCraft
#1073 [22:36] <Tychotesla> "I previously did not have to use my IP address to port forward, unless... I was Port triggering? Or was this in DHCP?"
#1074 [22:37] <KJ4IPS> Port triggering is for something else, we want fowarding
#1075 [22:37] <cfuentea> Mapping ports!
#1076 [22:37] <azn> Depending on the type of router, Virtual Server could also work
#1077 [22:37] <cfuentea> use the DMZ network!
#1078 [22:38] <Tychotesla> She just said something about DMZ. Is that a good thing?
#1079 [22:38] <azn> That is a last resort, because that takes away from the router security and such
#1080 [22:38] <KJ4IPS> cfuentea, I try to avoid that one, is poor practice especally with windows
#1081 [22:38] <Tychotesla> OK.
#1082 [22:38] <azn> DMZ means you are set outside all restrictions of your router
#1083 [22:38] <Tychotesla> OK:
#1084 [22:38] <cfuentea> is good if you have a firewall in your computer
#1085 [22:38] <KJ4IPS> hang on, let me check the nets
#1086 [22:38] <Tychotesla> forwarding:
#1087 [22:38] <Tychotesla> -virtual servers
#1088 [22:38] <Tychotesla> -port triggering
#1089 [22:38] <Tychotesla> -dmz
#1090 [22:38] <Tychotesla> -upnp
#1091 [22:38] <KJ4IPS> remember windows "firewall"
#1092 [22:38] <KJ4IPS> would be virtual server, probably
#1093 [22:39] <azn> I would suggest Virtual server
#1094 [22:39] <Tychotesla> "Should I actually be in the forwarding tab, or somewhere else like Network?"
#1095 [22:39] <azn> Tychotesla, what type of router do you have?
#1096 [22:39] <Tychotesla> An evil one.
#1097 [22:39] <azn> Haha
#1098 [22:39] <azn> But really
#1099 [22:40] <azn> These people have been using up a lot of their time even though there are tutorials for every router out there, on a page that I know of
#1100 [22:40] <KJ4IPS> Looks like forwarding -> Virtual Servers is the best bet
#1101 [22:40] <KJ4IPS> then add new
#1102 [22:40] <KJ4IPS> and list out the fields that it asks for
#1103 [22:40] <azn> Yes, go to Virtual Servers
#1104 [22:41] <Tychotesla> (you mean hers? I have Cisco Linksys something something)
#1105 [22:41] <azn> That's good enough to start with
#1106 [22:41] <cfuentea> tychotesla if you want i can start a server for you, in a virtual amazon machine
#1107 [22:41] <KJ4IPS> Hers, all this has to be done where the server resides
#1108 [22:41] * Me4502 is now known as Me4502|Away
#1109 [22:42] <Tychotesla> Hers: TPLink
#1110 [22:42] <Tychotesla> Sevice port [blank spot for me to enter something] (XX-XX or XX) TL-WR841N
#1111 [22:43] <cfuentea> even in my mac and my router (from the cable company) is complicated.. :(
#1112 [22:43] <KJ4IPS> Service port = 25565 (unless you changed it in the server.properties in MC)
#1113 [22:43] <Tychotesla> K
#1114 [22:43] <KJ4IPS> IP address is whatever you set in the DHCP reservation bit
#1115 [22:43] <KJ4IPS> protocol is ALL
#1116 [22:43] <KJ4IPS> status is Enabled
#1117 [22:44] <cfuentea> KJ4IPS: i was watching this? looks cool http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/63913-chunky-minecraft-mapping-and-rendering-tool/
#1118 [22:45] <cfuentea> the light and everything else
#1119 [22:45] <KJ4IPS> yep
#1120 [22:46] <Tychotesla> OK. Done all that. Backtracking to where you talked about forwarding virtual servers.
#1121 [22:46] <Tychotesla> Never mind, that's what she just did.
#1122 [22:47] <KJ4IPS> !check 71.231.69.240
#1123 [22:47] <KJ4IPS> darn, to the nmap-mobiel
#1124 [22:47] <KJ4IPS> !check 71.231.69.240
#1125 [22:47] <KJ4IPS> There we go!
#1126 [22:47] <Tychotesla> !
#1127 [22:47] <Tychotesla> OK!
#1128 [22:47] <Tychotesla> I have connection
#1129 [22:48] <cfuentea> weeeeeeee
#1130 [22:48] <KJ4IPS> Thanks for calling IRC, have a nice day/night/martian sol
#1131 [22:48] <cfuentea> wtf
#1132 [22:48] <Tychotesla> We're trying to make sure we know what happened so that this never happens again. "It's like when you see someone else do a difficult math problem and you know what it means but you'd never have been able to do it yourself"
#1133 [22:48] <KJ4IPS> Thanks for calling IRC, have a nice day/night/martian sol (darn bot)
#1134 [22:48] <Tychotesla> Thank you very much.
#1135 [22:49] <KJ4IPS> Now that the router is set up properly, as long as ther server is on that same computer it should all work
#1136 [22:49] <cfuentea> i think is easier than math
#1137 [22:49] <cfuentea> :)
#1138 [22:49] <cfuentea> can we play too?
#1139 [22:50] <cfuentea> :D
#1140 [22:50] <KJ4IPS> cfuentea, quick a bitwise and of 255 and not(256) (8 bit unsigned integers)
#1141 [22:51] <cfuentea> wut?
#1142 [22:51] <KJ4IPS> math...
#1143 [22:51] <KJ4IPS> was an attempt at a joke...
#1144 [22:51] <cfuentea> i'm sorry i didnt understand !!
#1145 [22:52] <Tychotesla> This means a lot to us. We're best friends who had to move away from each other, and sometimes we don't have anything specific to say in vid-chat. Minecraft lets us hang out. ;')
#1146 [22:52] <Extreme> cfuentea: you probably don't need to understand
#1147 [22:52] <KJ4IPS> in c: 255 & (~256) cfuentea
#1148 [22:53] <cfuentea> my english is not soooo good as i believe it is
#1149 [22:53] <Tychotesla> Welcome to join if you like. Server may be laggy, I don't know. She likes mod powers more than I do. This world will be deleted soon probably too.
#1150 [22:53] <cfuentea> :/
#1151 [22:53] <Tychotesla> But if you want: Cuvier
#1152 [22:53] <azn> Tychotesla, I'll say your welcome on behalf of them, because thye seem to be involved in their chat
#1153 [22:53] <KJ4IPS> Well Tychotesla Enjoy your voxel-filled world!
#1154 [22:53] <Andrio> KJ4IPS, is the answer 255?
#1155 [22:53] <KJ4IPS> zero
#1156 [22:53] <KJ4IPS> not of 256 is 0
#1157 [22:53] <KJ4IPS> that anded with anything is zero
#1158 [22:53] <Andrio> no it isn't?
#1159 [22:54] <KJ4IPS> the not comes first, so you are anding with zero
#1160 [22:54] <Andrio> You can't have 256 in an 8-bit unsigned integer, though.
#1161 [22:55] <KJ4IPS> darn, yep, that would be a problem... on, how about integers-without-zero
#1162 [22:55] <KJ4IPS> (natural numbers)
#1163 [22:56] <KJ4IPS> was supposed to be 0b11111110 AND NOT(0b11111111) (i know it is not c-compliant))
#1164 [22:57] <Andrio> That's 15254 & ~(255)
#1165 [22:57] <KJ4IPS> if ther is no zero, bot are incremented by one
#1166 [22:57] <KJ4IPS> I am pretty sure there is a type that does not have zero, but i may be wrong
#1167 [22:57] <Andrio> Well, generally there is a zero.
#1168 [22:58] <Andrio> I've never seen any such thing..
#1169 [22:58] <KJ4IPS> I know, but I messed up in the iniital problem (at least, unlike my instructors, I am willing to admit it)
#1170 [22:58] <Andrio> Heh.
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#1172 [23:00] <cfuentea> Tychotesla! the server has a White-List...
#1173 [23:00] <cfuentea> not fear!
#1174 [23:01] <KJ4IPS> Oh well... anyone want on mine? <mc
#1175 [23:01] * KJ4IPS curses enter for being near color
#1175 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Please don't advertise your own server here.
#1176 [23:01] <KJ4IPS> Very Well
#1177 [23:02] <cfuentea> :O
#1178 [23:04] <cfuentea> i'm still thinking about the c problem
#1179 [23:04] <KJ4IPS> It was flawed to begine with, decremet each number by 1
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#1181 [23:04] <KJ4IPS> a tilde is (essentailly) a bitwise NOT
#1182 [23:05] <KJ4IPS> and the single amperstand is a bitwise AND
#1183 [23:05] <cfuentea> i'm just more a php guy :(
#1184 [23:05] <KJ4IPS> the 255, being an 8 bit unsigned int, is all ones
#1185 [23:05] <KJ4IPS> therefore its NOT is zero
#1186 [23:05] <KJ4IPS> when we AND anything with zero we get zero
#1187 [23:06] <KJ4IPS> get it?
#1188 [23:06] <cfuentea> yep
#1189 [23:06] <cfuentea> thnx
#1190 [23:06] <KJ4IPS> This is how netmasks work, in reality
#1191 [23:06] <KJ4IPS> when you AND an IP with its mask, you get the network address
#1192 [23:06] <Tychotesla> cfuentea we're restarting world, will add you in a sec if you want
#1193 [23:07] <KJ4IPS> and when you AND an IP with the NOT of the mask you get the host on the network
#1194 [23:07] <cfuentea> Tychotesla jeje don't worry !! thank you :D
#1195 [23:09] <KJ4IPS> Anyone know a good SQL-backed perms plugin that works on MCPC+? (had issues with Group manager, PEX, and zPermissions not working)
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