#1 [00:00] <xales> I would never use the word "pro". And that's why "never" is true
#2 [00:00] <techno156|School> true
#3 [00:00] <techno156|School> Neither would I
#4 [00:00] <techno156|School> Honestly, I would think most people referring to themselves as 'pros' are probably overestimating their abilities. ;)
#5 [00:01] <xales> 100% of the time. And "overestimating" is the wrong word. Perhaps "thinking they have any at all" is better. ._.
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#7 [00:01] <techno156|School> usually. :P
#8 [00:01] <CrusaderDeleters> techno156|School: I know when I'm pro. :)
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#10 [00:01] <techno156|School> Fair enough. :P
#11 [00:01] <CrusaderDeleters> Even at Parkour stages in Minecraft. I'm pro at that,
#12 [00:02] <techno156|School> xales, I would never call myself 'pro' because I can't do any kind of coding/hacking. Hence I'm not a pro. :p
#13 [00:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Because I came to the top 13 of a server that had about 90k users. It was a spleefleague. :P
#14 [00:02] <CrusaderDeleters> techno156|School: Don't have to code to be a pro.
#15 [00:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Just look at the asians in the olympics.
#16 [00:02] <xales> "pro" is 100% the wrong word.
#17 [00:02] <techno156|School> That's my opinion. :P
#18 [00:02] <xales> That's why I brought it up.
#19 [00:02] <techno156|School> yup
#20 [00:03] <CrusaderDeleters> I hear you say that it's never the right word, but I actually don't see anything to back up your reasoning, xales.
#21 [00:04] <techno156|School> It just doesn't have the right... 'feel' for want of a better word
#22 [00:04] <xales> CrusaderDeleters, because nobody who people would consider a "pro" would call themselves that.
#23 [00:04] <xales> It sounds stupid.
#24 [00:04] <techno156|School> Hm...
#25 [00:04] <techno156|School> I suppose it all comes down to context. :p
#26 [00:05] <techno156|School> "I am a professional programmer."
#27 [00:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Let's extend the word... professional... what it really was supposed to be.
#28 [00:05] <techno156|School> That'd be said by a 'pro'
#29 [00:05] <techno156|School> "I am a computer pro"
#30 [00:05] <techno156|School> that'd be said by most other people. :P
#31 [00:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Ya know, I think Isee what you guys mean now
#32 [00:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Real "pro"s would call themselves professional, not pro's.
#33 [00:06] <Non> ...
#34 [00:06] <techno156|School> Basically, we're discussing the use of 'pro' when people overestimate themselves
#35 [00:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Like some kid who likes to snowboard would just say "Dude, I'm so pro"
#36 [00:06] <xales> Non: Do you need help with something?
#37 [00:06] <techno156|School> CrusaderDeleters, Yup. :P
#38 [00:07] <techno156|School> Non, Just ask away!
#39 [00:07] <CrusaderDeleters> techno156|School: I'd say that I'm a professional when it comes to Parkour. :)
#40 [00:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, Minecraft Parkour*
#41 [00:07] <techno156|School> CrusaderDeleters, Yup. :P
#42 [00:07] <Non> Lol
#43 [00:07] <techno156|School> It's all context. ;)
#44 [00:08] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm pro at parkour
#45 [00:08] <techno156|School> "I'm a parkour pro"
#46 [00:08] <techno156|School> :P
#47 [00:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah, now you guys just gave me something else to be erked about. XD
#48 [00:09] <techno156|School> meh
#49 [00:09] <techno156|School> if you hadn't noticed already, we hijacked the minecraft help channel. :P
#50 [00:09] <CrusaderDeleters> It's bad enough that the excess solecism bothers me. :P
#51 [00:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Hey, welcome to MCH
#52 [00:09] <CrusaderDeleters> This is what we do when everyone is being good at solving their own problems. C:
#53 [00:10] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: Your sentence with the word "solecism" in it was a solecism.
#54 [00:10] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: It should have been "It's bad enough that excess solecisms bother me".
#55 [00:10] <CrusaderDeleters> xales: Except that either way was fine. :)
#56 [00:10] <xales> Nope.
#57 [00:10] <xales> If it were a verb, it would be.
#58 [00:11] <xales> It's a noun.
#59 [00:11] <xales> And verb-promotion is a colloquial thing, not generally accepted.
#60 [00:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Wut
#61 [00:12] <xales> Verb-promotion is when a noun that is not a verb is used as a verb and thus becomes a verb.
#62 [00:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Like "He jump."?
#63 [00:12] <xales> Not quite.
#64 [00:13] <Non> I know this isn't really the right spot to ask this but, do you guys now if its possible to downgrade to windows 8 from 8.1?
#65 [00:13] <xales> Non: I'm sure it's possible, and I'm sure Google knows how.
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#68 [00:13] <CrusaderDeleters> But xales: It is still solecism-free, because "It's bad enough that the class bothers me." would still be grammatically correct, right.... RIGHT?!
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#70 [00:14] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: That would be correct, but what you said before was not.
#71 [00:14] <Non> Xales: There answer on there was no so I guess not.
#72 [00:14] <xales> Non: You could always just remove it and reinstall Windows 8.
#73 [00:14] <Non> Xales: How?
#74 [00:14] <CrusaderDeleters> I wouldn't see how it's different, because Solecism is just grammatical errors, which is more than one error, and a class is more than one students.
#75 [00:15] <xales> Non: Just pop in a Windows 8 disk and install it.
#76 [00:15] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: It's very different. For one, you used the word "the".
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#78 [00:16] <Non> Xales: My computer is an all-in-one so dang it there is no place to put a disk in
#79 [00:16] <techno156|School> CrusaderDeleters, it depends on what type of class. ;)
#80 [00:16] <xales> wat.
#81 [00:16] <techno156|School> Non, Just get a USB install. :P
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#83 [00:16] <xales> techno156|School: I don't think you can USB install Windows. At least not up to 7.
#84 [00:16] <techno156|School> Ah, ok
#85 [00:17] <xales> Non: External disk drive?
#86 [00:17] <CrusaderDeleters> xales: Should be possible, but VERY improbable
#87 [00:17] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: Windows refuses to boot off of USB because driver shenanigans.
#88 [00:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh
#89 [00:17] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: And the Windows installer is also Windows itself, so.
#90 [00:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Makes sense
#91 [00:18] <AndrewPH> xales: I almost always usb install windows
#92 [00:18] <xales> orly
#93 [00:18] <AndrewPH> yeah
#94 [00:18] <Non> Ill link my computer you guys will know more about it http://h20386.www2.hp.com/CanadaStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=H3Z77AA&opt=ABA&sel=PCDT
#95 [00:18] <AndrewPH> only times i don't is when the motherboard can't boot from usb
#96 [00:18] <AndrewPH> which isn't often.
#97 [00:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Which is why I said should be possible but improbable. :)
#98 [00:18] <AndrewPH> CrusaderDeleters: it's very probable..
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#100 [00:19] <AndrewPH> it's worked every time for me :s
#101 [00:19] <xales> Non: Did it *come* with 8.1?
#102 [00:19] <Non> No I updated it not knowing -_-
#103 [00:19] <CrusaderDeleters> AndrewPH: Did you have to write ISO's to your Flash?
#104 [00:19] * techno156|School did
#104 [00:19] <AndrewPH> CrusaderDeleters: Yes?
#105 [00:19] <xales> Non: Well, now you know. "Preview" builds are intended for developers, not the general public.
#106 [00:19] <techno156|School> But for me, it was Linux. :p
#107 [00:20] <AndrewPH> That's usually how it's done.
#108 [00:20] <CrusaderDeleters> AndrewPH: Then improbable for the average user. :)
#109 [00:20] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: New versions of Windows have an auto-ISO-writer thingy.
#110 [00:20] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: I think.
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#112 [00:20] <AndrewPH> xales: yeah microsoft released one for win7+
#113 [00:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Really? I had to install a device to do that
#114 [00:20] <AndrewPH> as in it works with win8 but win8 has its own utility i think
#115 [00:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Derp, program, not device
#116 [00:21] <xales> Yeah, 8 has limited support for it.
#117 [00:21] <xales> Or something.
#118 [00:21] <xales> Maybe.
#119 [00:21] <xales> I don't use Windows, why do people expect me to have anything to do with it. :c
#120 [00:21] <xales> "plz fix my computer"
#121 [00:21] <xales> "do you use Windows"
#122 [00:21] <xales> "yes"
#123 [00:21] <xales> "Fuck off"
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#125 [00:21] <CrusaderDeleters> LOL
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#127 [00:21] <xales> seriously?
#128 [00:21] <AndrewPH> wow xales better kill yourself :(
#129 [00:21] <xales> :|
#130 [00:21] <xales> .set mode xales +o
#131 [00:21] <xales> .auth xales 1
#132 [00:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Xales: Fix my computer. :(
#133 [00:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Xales: Fix my computer. :(
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#136 [00:21] <xales> D:
#137 [00:22] <xales> AuBot: I hope you're fixed now.
#138 [00:22] <xales> Kealper: Also how do I turn off AuBot's MOTD thing?
#139 [00:22] <xales> I seem to recall there being a way to have it not send it to you per-uer.
#140 [00:22] <xales> user*.
#141 [00:22] <Kealper> uhh... i'm 90% sure it was a command, let me look rofl
#142 [00:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Xales: Do you use Linux?
#143 [00:23] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: Yep.
#144 [00:24] <Kealper> he invented Linux :O
#145 [00:24] <CrusaderDeleters> What linux distro would you say is the best for Gaming? And then for Server-hosting?
#146 [00:24] <xales> Or something like that.
#147 [00:24] <Kealper> lol
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#149 [00:24] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: None and none.
#150 [00:24] <techno156|School> xales, Which distro?
#151 [00:24] <xales> Distros are irrelevant.
#152 [00:24] <techno156|School> fair enough. :P
#153 [00:24] <xales> You can install the same stuff on any distro.
#154 [00:24] <techno156|School> But whichone do you use?
#155 [00:24] <xales> Just get a distro that ships modern packages and a package manager that doesn't suck massive sack (aka yum)
#156 [00:24] <techno156|School> It's justa small difference in how they work. :P
#157 [00:24] <techno156|School> Fedora's not bad
#158 [00:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah... I guess I don't know what Distro's are
#159 [00:25] <xales> Generally, I use Arch or Gentoo. For embedded systems I roll my own.
#160 [00:25] <Kealper> out-of-the-box though, Ubuntu or Mint would probably be best for gaming, for servers, RHEL or CentOS... although i do hate yum
#161 [00:25] <xales> And, Fedora is pretty bad. I don't like Red Hat at all.
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#163 [00:25] <xales> For servers, SUSE.
#164 [00:25] <CrusaderDeleters> I heard about Ubuntu and CentOS
#165 [00:25] <xales> CentOS is just bad.
#166 [00:25] <xales> Bad bad bad.
#167 [00:25] <techno156|School> Fair enough
#168 [00:25] <techno156|School> Solaris. :
#169 [00:25] <techno156|School> *:P
#170 [00:25] <xales> Slowlaris.
#171 [00:25] <CrusaderDeleters> No
#172 [00:26] <xales> Also not Linux.
#173 [00:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Macintosh.
#174 [00:26] <xales> Macintosh is BSD with a fancy GUI.
#175 [00:26] <Kealper> ^
#176 [00:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Macintosh is the best server hosting.
#177 [00:26] <bsd> lol what
#178 [00:26] <bsd> oh
#179 [00:26] <CrusaderDeleters> BSD?
#180 [00:26] <Kealper> http://macminicolo.net
#181 [00:26] <bsd> how dare you
#182 [00:26] <bsd> i am no macintosh
#183 [00:26] <Kealper> OS X is based off FreeBSD
#184 [00:26] <CrusaderDeleters> What's BSD?
#185 [00:26] <xales> BSD = Berkeley Software Distribution.
#186 [00:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh
#187 [00:27] <xales> Kealper: Not FreeBSD, just POBSD.
#188 [00:27] <xales> (plain ol')
#189 [00:27] <Kealper> i've always heard it was forked off FreeBSD :o
#190 [00:27] <xales> Noope.
#191 [00:27] <techno156|School> Hm.
#192 [00:27] <techno156|School> Gentoo!
#193 [00:27] <xales> People say FreeBSD because they aren't aware that just BSD is actually a thing.
#194 [00:27] <techno156|School> :P
#195 [00:27] <Kealper> ahh, so misinformed people suck then
#196 [00:28] <CrusaderDeleters> So I guess I'll get Ubuntu for my Gaming Computer, and get SUSE for Server?
#197 [00:28] <xales> eh.
#198 [00:28] <xales> SUSE is good for *enterprise* servers.
#199 [00:28] <xales> Depending on what you're doing with it, Ubuntu is more turnkey I think.
#200 [00:28] <Kealper> personally i hate Ubuntu's UI, but that's just a personal opinion lol
#201 [00:28] <xales> Everyone hates Unity.
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#203 [00:28] <xales> That is sane, anyway.
#204 [00:28] <xales> Ubuntu is just stupid.
#205 [00:29] <xales> They replaced sysvinit with this worthless fucking "upstart" thing that nobody else uses, and nobody knows how it works.
#206 [00:29] <xales> Needlessly complicated on top of that.
#207 [00:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Ew, Ubuntu looks like Macintosh.
#208 [00:29] <xales> rofl
#209 [00:29] <Kealper> lol
#210 [00:29] <Kealper> check out Linux Mint
#211 [00:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah, I'm not getting that crap
#212 [00:29] <xales> SUSE has reasonable documentation for server stuff I think.
#213 [00:29] <xales> Whatever.
#214 [00:29] <xales> It's an adventure I suppose.
#215 [00:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Wow, another Macintosh replication. XD
#216 [00:30] <Kealper> Mint? :o
#217 [00:30] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm seeing different things
#218 [00:30] <CrusaderDeleters> http://bit.ly/13zU7ZB
#219 [00:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Googled Mint Desktop
#220 [00:30] <Kealper> there's different desktops for Mint, i prefer Cinnamon (which is available to other distros as well)
#221 [00:31] <CrusaderDeleters> You're going to have to give more than just names, Kealper, I lived with Windows all my life. Xd
#222 [00:31] <xales> awesomewm and dwm are the only tolerable WMs for me.
#223 [00:31] <xales> they also both have awesome domains
#224 [00:31] <xales> Kealper: awesome is at awesome.naquadah.org and dwm is (I think) dwm.suckless.org
#225 [00:31] <xales> \o/
#226 [00:32] <Kealper> CrusaderDeleters: google image search "linux mint 15 cinnamon" and you'll get a general idea what it looks like lol
#227 [00:32] <Kealper> xales: lol
#228 [00:32] <techno156|School> I use KDE
#229 [00:32] <techno156|School> GNOME is nice
#230 [00:32] <Kealper> :<
#231 [00:32] <techno156|School> Considering XKCD
#232 [00:32] <xales> GNOME is bad in recent versions
#233 [00:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Kealper: So it's windows-styled taskbar?
#234 [00:32] <techno156|School> or somehing. :P
#235 [00:32] <xales> KDE is better as of late.
#236 [00:32] <techno156|School> More or les
#237 [00:32] <xales> techno156|School: KFCE.
#238 [00:32] <xales> XFCE*
#239 [00:32] <techno156|School> yup, that
#240 [00:32] <techno156|School> :P
#241 [00:33] <xales> techno156|School: Cinnamon is a fork of old gnome-shell or something
#242 [00:33] <Kealper> CrusaderDeleters: it's sort of Windows-like, yeah, so it isn't too hard to get used to if you're coming from something like Windows 7
#243 [00:33] <xales> *cough*PCLinuxOS*cough*
#244 [00:33] <xales> only don't actually use that.
#245 [00:33] <Kealper> Cinnamon is forked off of Gnome 3, they made Gnome 3 not suck
#246 [00:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Then I'd like that format.
#247 [00:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Personally, I would like something '98-esk
#248 [00:33] <xales> lol
#249 [00:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Ya know, non-round corners
#250 [00:33] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: fluxbox is 90s-ey.
#251 [00:34] <xales> *giggity*
#252 [00:34] <xales> Not for the Linux beginner *at all* though.
#253 [00:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Looks nice
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#255 [00:35] <CrusaderDeleters> xales: I just know who I'll bug If I need linux help, though. *laughs devilishly*
#256 [00:35] <xales> you could try enlightenment
#257 [00:35] <xales> but good luck finding a distro that comes with that
#258 [00:35] <xales> it's also not for the Linux beginner
#259 [00:35] <CrusaderDeleters> noobslab.com has something about installing that onto Ubuntu
#260 [00:35] <xales> lol
#261 [00:35] <xales> Enlightenment: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.php?image=e-51fac6ac7dc954.79571087.jpg
#262 [00:36] <xales> better link: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-51fac6ac7dc954.79571087.jpg
#263 [00:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Mmmm, that's lookin' good, except I want a taskbar, not a macbar
#264 [00:36] <techno156|School> Interesting link: http://xkcd.com/242
#265 [00:36] <xales> you can put whatever the hell on it you want
#266 [00:36] <xales> the dock is just another application
#267 [00:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Yay, XKCD
#268 [00:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh
#269 [00:37] <CrusaderDeleters> That looks like a nice desktop, though
#270 [00:37] <Kealper> and yeah, that "macbar" thing is just a dock, they make them for just about every OS, Windows included
#271 [00:37] <CrusaderDeleters> It's on my mom's dell, because it's a dell-related software.
#272 [00:38] <xales> wat
#273 [00:38] <Kealper> rofl
#274 [00:38] <Kealper> yeah, Dell has their own dock now
#275 [00:38] <CrusaderDeleters> ^
#276 [00:38] <xales> wat.
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#278 [00:38] <CrusaderDeleters> My eyes didn't decieve me, but I hate the docks.
#279 [00:38] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: This is what my main computer looks like most of the time: http://forevernothing.com/loirc.png
#280 [00:39] <Kealper> i like that background
#281 [00:39] <CrusaderDeleters> What's with the blurred thing up top?
#282 [00:40] <xales> CrusaderDeleters, it's the channels I'm in. Many of them are private/secret, so I blur it out.
#283 [00:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Aaah
#284 [00:40] <CrusaderDeleters> It's really not hard to find the ones you're on for the Esper.net one.
#285 [00:40] <techno156|School> xales, you know whois tells all. :p
#286 [00:41] <xales> techno156|School: Not secret channels. :p
#287 [00:41] <CrusaderDeleters> I just click on their name. <3 Chatzilla
#288 [00:41] <techno156|School> eg: #stalkingxales
#289 [00:41] <techno156|School> :P
#290 [00:41] <CrusaderDeleters> xales: What's MeadCraft?
#291 [00:41] <xales> techno156|School: I'm in like, 20 secret channels, none of which show up in my whois to you. :p
#292 [00:41] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: Haven't the faintest.
#293 [00:41] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: I join channels because of some necessity and don't bother to part, often.
#294 [00:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#295 [00:41] <CrusaderDeleters> ./leave
#296 [00:41] <xales> Occasionally I go through and close a bunch when I tire of having 100 windows open.
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#298 [00:43] <CrusaderDeleters> xales: http://imgur.com/5JxZKnR
#299 [00:43] <CrusaderDeleters> I, too, have a second monitor
#300 [00:43] <xales> THE ICONS.
#301 [00:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Sometimes those icons just love to go out of place
#302 [00:43] * xales cringes
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#303 [00:43] <CrusaderDeleters> I actually know where most of them are
#304 [00:44] <CrusaderDeleters> And I keep meaning to get rid of half of those executables
#305 [00:44] <xales> I hate icons.
#306 [00:44] * Kealper doesn't want to take a screenshot of his main computer
#306 [00:44] <xales> I don't even have an application menu.
#307 [00:44] <techno156|School> XD
#308 [00:44] <xales> I use like, 4 applications.
#309 [00:44] <Kealper> it's messy right now :(
#310 [00:44] <techno156|School> Half my screen used to be covered with icons...
#311 [00:44] <CrusaderDeleters> I use a billion
#312 [00:44] <Kealper> my laptop is nice and clean though
#313 [00:44] <techno156|School> I just tidied it u by shoving everything into folders
#314 [00:45] <techno156|School> My laptop is filthy on the outside. :3
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#317 [00:47] <CrusaderDeleters> xales: Assembling a modpack. I need to get the permission of every mod-owner of the mods I am using. :(
#318 [00:47] <xales> .-.
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#320 [00:48] <CrusaderDeleters> It's taking forever for Adobe Illustrator to uninstal... I hate adobe...
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#322 [00:50] <Kealper> more games need to support Linux :<
#323 [00:50] <xales> WINE works reasonably.
#324 [00:51] <Kealper> but that's so hacky
#325 [00:51] <xales> there's a native DirectX 9 implementation now. :o
#326 [00:51] <xales> it's faster than the Windows one, obviously
#327 [00:51] <Kealper> i have to use Wine on my laptop to get Netflix ._.
#328 [00:52] <Kealper> and it sucks not having hardware video decoding, because my laptop isn't the best rofl
#329 [00:52] <xales> lol
#330 [00:52] <CrusaderDeleters> Isn't the best is an understatement.
#331 [00:52] <CrusaderDeleters> It's a Craptop, what else would you expect? :)
#332 [00:53] <Kealper> that's actually my nickname for it rofl
#333 [00:53] <Kealper> i mean... there are worse things that exist... but still.. lol
#334 [00:53] <CrusaderDeleters> I've always used that as a nickname for Lappies, but I just don't use it when helping, because I have to look professional
#335 [00:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Kealper: Then what would those be called?
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#337 [00:54] <Kealper> uhh... older than the pyramids at Giza
#338 [00:54] <xales> CrusaderDeleters, Dells?
#339 [00:54] <xales> ._.
#340 [00:54] <Kealper> rofl
#341 [00:54] <Xerxes> xD
#342 [00:54] <Kealper> although my current laptop is a business laptop
#343 [00:55] <xales> Dell was fine up until about 2001.
#344 [00:55] <xales> oh, Kealper, guess what
#345 [00:55] <Kealper> business laptops are so, so much better... they've got better cooling and they're not insane to change hardware on
#346 [00:55] <Xerxes> guys, unrelated stuffz: #minecraft
#347 [00:55] <Xerxes> this is a help channel remember
#348 [00:55] * Kealper changes the channel topic to: #Minecraftv2.0
#348 [00:56] <Kealper> if there were people actually needing help here, we wouldn't be idly talking :o
#349 [00:56] <Xerxes> true... sorry
#350 [00:56] <CrusaderDeleters> I just died while trying to emulate Mario Sunchine
#351 [00:57] <CrusaderDeleters> Egad, never try it with a controller that doesn't have fluid trigger mechanics
#352 [00:57] <Wug> i was like KEALPER NUUUU THE TOPIC
#353 [00:57] <Wug> then i realized.
#354 [00:57] <Kealper> :P
#355 [00:58] <CrusaderDeleters> This oil is not going away. :(
#356 [00:58] <Wug> as much as i want to stay and be an idiot for a few hours
#357 [00:58] <Wug> i really need to go to bed.
#358 [00:58] <Wug> i have a presentation tomorrow and its not done :D
#359 [00:58] * Kealper boots Wug off in to bed
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#360 [00:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Same here, Wug
#361 [00:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Except I don't have a presentation
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#376 [01:39] <Xerxes> http://xkcd.com/220/
#377 [01:39] <xales> TestDummy just linked that in #minecraft ...
#378 [01:39] <Xerxes> yeah
#379 [01:40] <xales> Oh, that's why.
#380 [01:40] <xales> Vox only says video titles.
#381 [01:40] <Xerxes> ahhh
#382 [01:40] <Xerxes> dangit
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#386 [01:49] <DrPepper> Hello. I recently changed my skin by logging in and uploading one but it crashed my game. I set it back to steve but it still crashes my game. I've tried reinstalling 1.6.2's installer and have even wiped my appdata minecraft folder. If i play offline, it doesn't crash. It's the skin. Please help. Thanks
#387 [01:50] <xales> DrPepper: Can you provide a crash log?
#388 [01:50] <DrPepper> Yes. One second.
#389 [01:50] <Xerxes> We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher. First, copy all of the text. Then, go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it. Click submit. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#390 [01:51] <Xerxes> I'm late
#391 [01:51] <Xerxes> xD
#392 [01:51] <xales> Xerxes: the bot exists for a reason. :p
#393 [01:53] <DrPepper> Ok, np. I pasted it on that site. Let me post the url.
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#395 [01:54] <DrPepper> http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=BLEnSUPe
#396 [01:54] <DrPepper> There we go.
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#398 [01:55] <Xerxes> This guy is one of the better ones
#399 [01:55] <Xerxes> I think its funny when ppl ask questions, and leave
#400 [01:55] <xales> wat.
#401 [01:55] <DrPepper> I'm still here
#402 [01:55] <xales> DrPepper: Interesting, I haven't seen that before
#403 [01:56] <xales> Let me look into it
#404 [01:56] <DrPepper> Ok
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#406 [01:58] <xales> DrPepper: What web browser are you using to upload the skin?
#407 [01:58] <DrPepper> I'm using Internet Explorer.
#408 [01:59] <Xerxes> Pffft
#409 [01:59] <xales> DrPepper: That's probably the issue.
#410 [01:59] <Xerxes> No wonder things are getting messed up
#411 [01:59] <DrPepper> Should I use Mozilla?
#412 [01:59] <xales> DrPepper: Internet Explorer is broken, has numerous security issues, and is just plain bad.
#413 [01:59] <xales> DrPepper: Use anything else.
#414 [01:59] <xales> DrPepper: Also - upload this as your skin: http://minecraft.net/images/char.png
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#416 [02:00] <DrPepper> Ok sir. That is the skin I'm trying to upload. So to fix the problem, I need to download a new web browser and then log in to Mojang's website that way?
#417 [02:00] <DrPepper> Or via that web browser.
#418 [02:01] <xales> Upload it with a browser other than Internet Explorer, correct.
#419 [02:01] <DrPepper> Ok. Can I keep this chat with you open and try it out real fast?
#420 [02:01] <Xerxes> Dude, we're here all the time :p
#421 [02:02] <DrPepper> Ohh. Haha
#422 [02:02] <DrPepper> Great customer service then for sure.
#423 [02:02] <Xerxes> xD
#424 [02:02] <xales> Now if only we got paid...
#425 [02:02] <Xerxes> Actually, we just don't have lives
#426 [02:02] <Xerxes> HAHA!!
#427 [02:03] <xales> I want an Aston Martin.
#428 [02:03] <xales> :c
#429 [02:03] <Xerxes> he he
#430 [02:03] <DrPepper> Lol. You don't get paid for being on this chat?
#431 [02:03] <xales> Nope.
#432 [02:03] <Xerxes> I need a girlfriend. Maybe then I woulden't be online 24/7
#433 [02:03] <xales> I believe there are two people here who do, neither of which are here at the moment.
#434 [02:03] <Xerxes> just 23/7 ha ha
#435 [02:03] <xales> ._.
#436 [02:03] <DrPepper> Wow, that's crazy. Ha. I should be at work but want to figure this thing out. :P I work 3rd shift.
#437 [02:04] <Xerxes> hah hah
#438 [02:05] <DrPepper> It's saying "problem loading page."
#439 [02:05] <Xerxes> *sigh*
#440 [02:05] <xales> DrPepper: Does it say what the specific problem was?
#441 [02:05] <Xerxes> Networking is an annoying thing
#442 [02:06] <DrPepper> It said server couldn't be found or something. It timed out. Let me retry.
#443 [02:06] <DrPepper> Ok, it worked that time.
#444 [02:07] <DrPepper> Let me try loading the game.
#445 [02:07] <DrPepper> It crashed yet again.
#446 [02:08] <xales> It seems like there's a problem with uploading it. Do you have another computer you could try uploading it on?
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#448 [02:09] <DrPepper> Crude, not really. I have a tower in my car but I sold the monitor a month ago or so. This is a laptop.
#449 [02:09] <xales> Hmm. It's most likely just a problem with the upload, but I can ask for it to be looked into.
#450 [02:10] <DrPepper> Ok cool. Does it matter what type of file I save "char" as?
#451 [02:10] <xales> PNG.
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#455 [02:10] <DrPepper> Wow, that's the one I'm using. I never should have tried messing with the skins.
#456 [02:12] <DrPepper> There isn't a way to reset the skins in a profile huh?
#457 [02:13] <xales> Not that I have access to.
#458 [02:14] <DrPepper> Ok, I understand. At least I can play offline. I recently started up a "Let's Play" series. :D I really need to head into work. You guys take care and thank you for the help. I appreciate it.
#459 [02:14] <xales> No problem. Perhaps it'll be fixed when you get home.
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#461 [02:15] <DrPepper> I hope so but it can always be worse. Goodnight guys
#462 [02:15] <xales> 'night
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#468 [02:23] <DrPepper> I'm back. I HAD to keep trying. I wiped my .minecraft files out again in roaming via "run" - %appdata%. It worked but sometimes it reverts back to that error page. If I copy a map into this new file in %appdata%, could that cause the error again?
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#470 [02:24] <xales> DrPepper: Probably not. I'm seeing an invalid skin on the site, so that's more likely the problem.
#471 [02:25] <DrPepper> I see. Ok. So you think I have the green light to try that old map again?
#472 [02:26] <xales> Sure.
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#474 [02:27] <DrPepper> Ok, I will when I get home from work. This time I'm gone for real. Take care and Goodnight
#475 [02:27] <xales> 'night
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#484 [02:49] <Shaleen> i tried direct connect to the server and it asked for the address. what is the address?
#485 [02:49] <xales> Shaleen: It's the address of whatever server you want to play on.
#486 [02:49] <xales> There is no "master server".
#487 [02:50] <Shaleen> how do you find the address to the server though?
#488 [02:50] <xales> ??> Shaleen smp/servers
#489 [02:50] <VoxelHead> Shaleen: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#490 [02:50] <VoxelHead> Shaleen: The MC forums' list can be found at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try #smp, although it is not too active anymore.
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#493 [02:53] <Shaleen> I have a friend that made a server and it times out when i just try to connect to it. so i tried the direct connect and it asked for the address. I just want to be able to find that specific address for it so i can join my friend in the game
#494 [02:53] <xales> You'd have to ask your friend what the address is.
#495 [02:54] <xales> It also may be that your friend did not set it up properly, and that other people cannot connect to it.
#496 [02:54] <Shaleen> how does he find out what the address is so he can give it to me?
#497 [02:56] <xales> It's just their external/WAN IP address.
#498 [02:56] <xales> If they actually don't know how to find it, there are websites that will tell you what it is. For example: whatismyip.org
#499 [02:57] <Shaleen> ok, i will tell my friend and see if we can get it. ty
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#502 [03:09] <Shaleen> Im back. he went to the site to find his server and i typed it into the direct connect and it is an instant connection refused
#503 [03:09] <xales> They either misconfigured the server, or did not set up port forwarding properly.
#504 [03:10] <Shaleen> ok ty
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#534 [04:57] <LNKZ> anyone have any idea how to fix OpenGL Problem?
#535 [04:58] <LNKZ> Hello?
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#537 [04:58] <LNKZ> anyone here?
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#561 [06:19] <Lavaeimerlp> j need help. When j start Minecraft there stands Pixelformat not allecerated
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#579 [06:52] <spoe> I purchased the minecraft game for my twin boys two days ago. Upon creating them a user mane and clicking to download and install the game my McAfee Antivirus Software recognized a Trojanvirus attached to the download and stopped the dowload. I spent two hours on the phone with a McAfee technician remotely logged onto my computer trying to help me download the Minecraft software. Eventaully he disabled the Mcafee antivirus software
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#581 [06:55] <spoe> Now that the antivirus software is bcak running in it's normal capacity it has removed Minecraft from my computer recognizing it as having a Trojan virus attached to it. The Mojang company is adamant that there is no such virus attached to it;s software, but why would the Antivirus software recognize a virus if none exists? I do a lot of online banking ad cannot afford for my home computer to be compromised.
#582 [06:55] <FLHerne> spoe: Where did you download it from? http://minecraft.net/download is the official location, most other places are likely to be trojans or other malware
#583 [06:56] <spoe> I dowloaded it from the mojang.com website where I purchased it form.
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#585 [06:57] <spoe> I went to minecraft.net/download and clicked on the minecraft.exe download and my antivirus software gave the same message about stopping a virus from being downloaded .
#586 [06:58] <FLHerne> spoe: That's quite odd, I haven't heard about false-positive issues with McAfee and MC before
#587 [07:00] <FLHerne> Could you md5sum the downloaded Minecraft.exe, to compare with mine? (3c166bae84553d4cb27af8abdc61712d)
#588 [07:00] <spoe> The McAfee technician spent two hours remotely logged into my computer and downloaded the mojang game and then ran the virus scan and told me that if the game was removed from system after the full system scan then it would confirm that there is a trojan virus attached to the download as the software was recognizing.
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#594 [07:04] <FLHerne> spoe: It seems very unlikely that it would have problems from the official site - if Mojang's servers were infected and attaching viruses to all (or even some) downloads we'd be much busier here, and modifying downloaded files en route is generally impractical
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#596 [07:05] <techno156> FLHerne, it might be a virus already on his computer? That is not always uncommon. :P
#597 [07:06] <techno156> Might, mind you. :P
#598 [07:06] <FLHerne> I suggest you check the md5sum of your download to make sure it's the same as what everyone else gets, if it's the same you have a problem elsewhere
#599 [07:06] <FLHerne> techno156: More likely than Mojang's servers being infected, certainly
#600 [07:06] <spoe> How do I check the md5sum of my download?
#601 [07:06] * FLHerne is hardly an A/V expert, having been a Linux user for 6 years :P
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#602 [07:07] <techno156> FLHerne, Fair enough. :P
#603 [07:08] * techno156 uses both Windows and Linux
#603 [07:08] <FLHerne> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/841290
#604 [07:08] <techno156> How do you go about checking the md5 of files, anywho?
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#607 [07:08] <techno156> ??< win/md5
#608 [07:09] <FLHerne> I'd avoid the various third-party freeware, half of that is malware itself
#609 [07:09] <GrygrFlzr> Actually some antiviruses give false positives on programs like Minecraft
#610 [07:10] <spoe> So is there a way to get around it and still keep my computer safe but allow my children to play Minecraft?
#611 [07:10] <FLHerne> GrygrFlzr: I know, but I don't remember there being an issue with McAfee before (correct me if I missed on, of course)
#612 [07:11] <FLHerne> spoe: If the download checksums OK, there's not a problem with that
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#614 [07:12] <spoe> checksums? is the the md5sums? you referenced to earlier?
#615 [07:12] <techno156> FLHerne, sometimes, McAfee can bit a bit of adware (especially when your subscription expires. :P) tried and tested. ;)
#616 [07:12] <FLHerne> Two possibilities are that the A/V software is seeng something else and getting confused, or that the A/V software is itelf a virus (lots of fake A/V trojans out there :-( )
#617 [07:12] <FLHerne> spoe: Yes. It's essentially a way to determine if two files are the same as each other
#618 [07:12] <spoe> I am totally current with my McAffee subscription.
#619 [07:13] <techno156> I know
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#621 [07:13] <techno156> Hm...
#622 [07:13] <techno156> spoe, did you scan turn up with anything other than minecraft?
#623 [07:13] <techno156> *your
#624 [07:13] <FLHerne> spoe: If the one you've got downloaded is the same as everyone else's, it's not infected (because then everyone would be on here getting stressed out)
#625 [07:13] <techno156> Yup. :P
#626 [07:14] <techno156> Except for people not using windows. XD
#627 [07:14] <techno156> But I digress
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#629 [07:14] <spoe> scan turned up nothing other than minecraft
#630 [07:14] <techno156> Hm...
#631 [07:15] <GrygrFlzr> Based on previous interactions, I honestly recommend disabling McAfee
#632 [07:16] <GrygrFlzr> or you can try adding an exception and see if that works out
#633 [07:16] <FLHerne> If anyone here has recent experience of Windows antivirus, I'll go hide in a corner now
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#636 [07:17] <techno145> spoe: try downloading the launcher again, from http://minecraft.net/download
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#639 [07:18] <GrygrFlzr> https://minecraft.net/download is more secure, actually.
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#641 [07:19] <techno156> true
#642 [07:19] <techno156> I was typing that from memory. :P
#643 [07:21] <spoe> I am at work. When I get home this afternoon I'll try to add Minecraft as an exception to McAfee, and see if it works. If not I guess I'll have to disable it every time they want to log on to play the game and I'll be sure to download from the minecraft.net/download. Thanks for all of the help.
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#645 [07:22] <GrygrFlzr> Yep, totally did not notice the https:// part.
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#647 [07:22] <techno156> Well, I was going to report an LWGJL bug, but it looks like it's been fixed
#648 [07:22] <techno156> Cool. :D
#649 [07:23] <GrygrFlzr> I hope you were planning to report that to LWJGL and not the Mojang Bug Tracker
#650 [07:23] <techno156> No, I was going to put it here and see if anyone else had the same issue. :Pp
#651 [07:23] <techno156> *:P
#652 [07:24] <techno156> It was a graphical error, I think
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#660 [07:42] <LoRuhamaa> hi my minecraft wont start in updated java and my graphic drivers are up to date but minecraft says they arent
#661 [07:44] <kumasasa> ??> LoRuhamaa devconsole
#662 [07:44] <VoxelHead> LoRuhamaa: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#663 [07:44] <VoxelHead> LoRuhamaa: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it. Click submit. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
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#665 [07:45] <LoRuhamaa> http://pastebin.com/r7xq16aX
#666 [07:45] <dMonte05__> Hey
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#669 [07:46] <dMonte05__> Someone here can create plugins and have experience with Linux Servers and MySQL/SQLite? I need help with it. (sorry bad english, i'm not from there)
#670 [07:48] <kumasasa> LoRuhamaa: your graphics drivers are *not* up to date .
#671 [07:48] <kumasasa> Who said that they were ?
#672 [07:48] <LoRuhamaa> thats what minecraft says ... on fix problems they tell me to check on the homepage of the developer and the tool says they are?!
#673 [07:49] <kumasasa> no, i mean, who said "Your graphics drivers are up to date" ?
#674 [07:50] <kumasasa> ??> LoRuhamaa win/dxdiag
#675 [07:50] <VoxelHead> LoRuhamaa: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#676 [07:50] <VoxelHead> LoRuhamaa: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#677 [07:52] <LoRuhamaa> http://pastebin.com/398tt6DE,
#678 [07:54] <kumasasa> LoRuhamaa: that's the right one (Catalyst 13.1) http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeonaiw-vista64.aspx
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#681 [07:58] <LoRuhamaa> thank u very much works now ! have nice day
#682 [07:58] <kumasasa> fine :)
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#686 [08:03] <dMonte05__> Someone here can create plugins and have experience with Linux Servers and MySQL/SQLite? I need help with it. (sorry bad english, i'm not from there)
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#691 [08:08] <Calinou> inb4 "hey monies if you make my plugin"
#692 [08:08] <Calinou> also, #bukkit
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#694 [08:09] <kumasasa> dMonte05__: this here is the help channel for vanilla minecraft. you might try #minecraft-modding on this server
#695 [08:10] <dMonte05__> hmm ok
#696 [08:10] <Necrodoom> if you mean bukkit plugins then #bukkit
#697 [08:11] <kumasasa> Calinou: Fail!
#698 [08:12] <dMonte05__> Ok
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#700 [08:13] <Calinou> network you mean, not server :P
#701 [08:13] <Traici> Can I get some help, I just came here for the first time and can't seem to chat :)
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#704 [08:15] <kumasasa> ??> Traici ask
#705 [08:15] <VoxelHead> Traici: Please don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#706 [08:15] <VoxelHead> Traici: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#707 [08:17] <Traici> I joined a channel and can not see anything but a black box, when I typer in the chat bar nothing comes up
#708 [08:17] <Traici> This channel is working for me, but no other
#709 [08:17] <Necrodoom> although this is minecraft support, and not IRC support
#710 [08:17] <Necrodoom> il try help you
#711 [08:17] <Necrodoom> are you talking about #minecraft?
#712 [08:18] <Traici> That is very much appreciated and yes I am
#713 [08:18] <Necrodoom> you need to register your nick to talk in that channel
#714 [08:18] <Necrodoom> although you should see other people
#715 [08:18] <Necrodoom> type /msg nickserv help
#716 [08:19] <Traici> Okay, I just clicked back and yes I can see other people talking now, I will try to register, thank you
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#720 [08:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Someone should have warned Traici that nothing minecrafty goes on over there.
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#730 [08:46] <jkgkj> hello
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#732 [08:47] <jkgkj> bye
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#734 [08:47] <CrusaderDeleters> ?
#735 [08:50] <DeanUK> Is anyone else having trouble logging on to minecraft right now?
#736 [08:50] <Stuart|Away> Anyone having problems logging in?
#737 [08:50] <DeanUK> <_>
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#739 [08:55] <kumasasa> DeanUK Stuart : no
#740 [08:55] <Stuart> Hmm
#741 [08:55] <Stuart> What launcher version you got? Mine randomly changed to 1.2.1
#742 [08:56] <kumasasa> randomly ? was updated around 10:00 CEST
#743 [08:56] <GrygrFlzr> 1.2.1 is the latest one.
#744 [08:56] <kumasasa> yeah 1.2.1
#745 [08:56] <Stuart> Yeah, I couldnt log in, restarted the launcher and it just changed to 1.2.1 about 5mins ago
#746 [08:56] <GrygrFlzr> It updates upon launch.
#747 [08:57] <Stuart> Yeah, but I still can't log in :/
#748 [08:58] <Necrodoom> im 1.2.1 here
#749 [08:58] <Stuart> And you can log in ok?
#750 [08:59] <Necrodoom> yes
#751 [08:59] <Necrodoom> well, with a long delay
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#753 [08:59] <Stuart> I can't even log in on minecraft.net
#754 [09:00] <kumasasa> no problem on mc.net
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#756 [09:02] <Stuart> Won't even work on magic launcher
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#758 [09:03] <Stuart> Magic launcher says: Error connecting to server
#759 [09:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Stuart: What do you think it is, Doc?
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#767 [09:28] <Chef> I have tried updating my drivers but it still wont play minecrtaft
#768 [09:28] <Chef> minecraft*
#769 [09:31] <kumasasa> ??> Chef devconsole
#770 [09:31] <VoxelHead> Chef: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#771 [09:31] <VoxelHead> Chef: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it. Click submit. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
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#773 [09:32] <Chef> Here you go , http://pastebin.com/MLTP6xT8
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#775 [09:33] <billybob> how do i craft a horse saddle
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#778 [09:35] <billybob> how do i craft a horse saddle in mine craft 1.6.2
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#780 [09:35] <Andrio> You don't.
#781 [09:35] <Andrio> You have to find them in dungeons and nether fortresses.
#782 [09:35] <billybob> craetive mode only?
#783 [09:36] <billybob> ok
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#787 [09:39] <Chef> any help?
#788 [09:40] <Calinou> Chef: what is your graphics card?
#789 [09:40] <Chef> how do i find it?
#790 [09:40] <Chef> can i reeboot my system and come back?
#791 [09:41] <Chef> Cla?
#792 [09:41] <Chef> Cal?
#793 [09:42] <Calinou> ?
#794 [09:42] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag/bat
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#796 [09:42] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag/bat: Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#797 [09:42] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag/bat: Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#798 [09:42] <Calinou> do that, and it'll tell you
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#801 [09:45] <Chef> this?
#802 [09:45] <Chef> http://pastebin.com/7RwHRVrj
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#805 [09:45] <Calinou> low end IGP
#806 [09:45] <Calinou> nothing to do, probably
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#808 [09:45] <Calinou> get a dedicated graphics card, only thing you can do
#809 [09:46] <Chef> how do i do that???
#810 [09:46] <Calinou> by buying one? ;)
#811 [09:46] <Chef> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUAD-CORE-AMD-BULLDOZER-3-6GHZ-1TB-HDD-8GB-DDR3-RAM-HOME-DESKTOP-COMPUTER-PC-/200704429960?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2ebaea8f88
#812 [09:46] <Chef> i have this pc
#813 [09:46] <Chef> idk what to od
#814 [09:46] <Chef> do
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#818 [09:50] <Calinou> Chef: the IGP that is integrated on these motherboards is very slow, and quite crappy
#819 [09:51] <Chef> how do i change it?
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#821 [09:56] <kumasasa> chef, you might try that driver http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/raid_windows.aspx#2
#822 [09:57] <kumasasa> that's titled with RAID driver but the graphics driver may be in that package too.
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#824 [09:58] <Calinou> wtF?
#825 [09:58] <Calinou> wtf*
#826 [09:58] <Calinou> kumasasa: still
#827 [09:58] <Calinou> you can't expect anything productive out of these crappy IGPs
#828 [09:58] <kumasasa> it's worth a try.
#829 [09:59] <kumasasa> his drivers are as of 2009
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#831 [09:59] <Chef> hi again
#832 [10:00] <kumasasa> chef, did you read that link to AMD ?
#833 [10:00] <Calinou> probably unsupported
#834 [10:00] <Chef> no?
#835 [10:00] <Chef> link again please
#836 [10:00] <Lutzee> kumasasa: for the bulldozer line you are expected to add your own graphics card
#837 [10:00] <Chef> WHAT
#838 [10:00] <Chef> THAT NEVER SAID THAT
#839 [10:00] <Chef> omg ffs
#840 [10:00] <Chef> can you link me to a decent one?
#841 [10:00] <Lutzee> The integrated package is only designed so you can see a picture on screen, like the windows default graphics drivers
#842 [10:01] <Calinou> a decent card would be a GTX 650 or an HD 7750, or better
#843 [10:01] <Calinou> (with 1GB of VRAM)
#844 [10:01] <Lutzee> The 7750 was what I would have pointed at
#845 [10:02] <Calinou> with 1GB
#846 [10:02] <Calinou> and make sure it has GDDR5
#847 [10:03] <Lutzee> Here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130946913786
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#849 [10:04] <Chef_> sorry lagged out
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#851 [10:04] <Chef_> can you tell me all that again
#852 [10:04] <Chef_> ?
#853 [10:04] <kumasasa> holy sh*t look at that advert "This is the perfect Desktop Computer for anyone looking for a low-cost but high performance, Quad-Core Gaming Computer. If you are producing Spreadsheets, surfing the web, streaming media or playing your favourite games then this computer with its 4.0ghz QUAD CORE Bulldozer FX 4130 CPU is the one for you. "
#854 [10:04] <kumasasa> "Gaming Computer"
#855 [10:04] <Chef_> yeah
#856 [10:04] <Chef_> that why i got it
#857 [10:05] <kumasasa> The short form: You've got ripped off.
#858 [10:05] <Chef_> really?
#859 [10:05] <cestislife> It's not a gaming computer in the slightest.
#860 [10:05] <Chef_> siht
#861 [10:05] <Chef_> fuck
#862 [10:05] * AuBot kicked Chef_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hef_ :Please keep it civil.)
#863 [10:06] <kumasasa> But windows games like "Hearts" and "Minesweeper" will run....
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#865 [10:06] <Chef> nooooo
#866 [10:06] <Lutzee> Chef: buy this and put it in it http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130946913786
#867 [10:06] <Lutzee> Then it will be an acceptable entry level gaming PC
#868 [10:06] <Chef> ok
#869 [10:06] <Chef> how do i install it?
#870 [10:06] <Chef> parents gonna kill me lol
#871 [10:07] <kumasasa> make your parents kill that ebay seller of your pc
#872 [10:07] <Lutzee> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzkmMSLYnU
#873 [10:07] <VoxelHead> "Gaming PC Building Tutorial - Installing Graphics Cards" ( by Finnish Spartan )
#874 [10:08] <Chef> ok thank you <3
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#887 [10:36] <clarjon1> Hm. The new minecraft w/ launcher doesn't like going fullscreen on my linux laptop anymore.
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#889 [10:37] <clarjon1> Just realized that.
#890 [10:37] <clarjon1> Oh well, glad KDE can force a fullscreen.
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#913 [11:11] <kingbling> hey
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#916 [11:13] <kingbling> soon before 1.6 was out is late 1.5 some thing happen i cant pick block up with i click i have to hoild down the buttlen and when i do pick it up the icon is mess up what do i do
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#919 [11:14] <D3ar> Before the 1.6 update minecraft, my minecraft ran the 70/120 fps with settings maxed, today, with the 1.6 it gets the average 7/33fps with everything at least with OptiFine.
#920 [11:14] <D3ar> hi?
#921 [11:15] <kumasasa> D3ar: Intel graphics card ?
#922 [11:15] <kingbling> can some one help me
#923 [11:15] <D3ar> yes. D:
#924 [11:15] <D3ar> hd 3000
#925 [11:16] <kumasasa> ouch. fix is out for HD 4000
#926 [11:16] <D3ar> with core i3
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#928 [11:16] <kingbling> can some one help me
#929 [11:16] <kumasasa> ??> kingbling patience
#930 [11:16] <VoxelHead> kingbling: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#931 [11:17] <VoxelHead> kingbling: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#932 [11:17] <D3ar> king, w8 minutes please, he's helping me now, I hope.
#933 [11:17] <kingbling> sorry
#934 [11:17] <D3ar> nothing
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#936 [11:18] <D3ar> The fix is ​​only for HD 4000 +?
#937 [11:19] <kumasasa> D3ar: please read that ticket https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MCL-767 AFAIK there is yet no fix for HD 3000 - new drivers of intel are awaited
#938 [11:19] <D3ar> oh no
#939 [11:19] <kumasasa> D3ar: what launcher version do you have ?
#940 [11:19] <D3ar> then the only thing to do is wait for the intel?
#941 [11:20] <D3ar> i have launcher 1.6.2
#942 [11:20] <Extreme> only newer drives should have the issue
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#945 [11:21] <william> caca
#946 [11:21] <william> ca va kaka
#947 [11:21] <william> cacabsegsdfcnvdr,gasvf,mv<c@@
#948 [11:21] <D3ar> I've read that yesterday, but I will read it again.
#949 [11:21] <william> nbtfebtfdzgfsfbsdhhufsjbse
#950 [11:21] <Lutzee> !kick william Enough of that.
#951 [11:21] <Lutzee> !kick william Enough of that.
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#954 [11:21] <Lutzee> !kick william Enough of that.
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#956 [11:23] <D3ar> that link you sent me, please, if you like you send me the part where someone mentions the solution or solves a problem really little, please.
#957 [11:23] <kumasasa> ??> kingbling devconsole
#958 [11:23] <VoxelHead> kingbling: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#959 [11:23] <VoxelHead> kingbling: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it. Click submit. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#960 [11:24] <kingbling> my is the old one
#961 [11:24] <D3ar> because I've read it yesterday, and found no solution. sorry
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#963 [11:25] <kumasasa> kingbling: Switch off touchscreen mode : Game Menu -> Options -> Touchscreen mode
#964 [11:25] <D3ar> intel has recanted on this?
#965 [11:25] <Fab> I want to buy the mine craft, I have an iMac and I just installed the OS Mountain Lion with the java 7.
#966 [11:25] <Fab> I'm trying to use the demo before buy it it doesn't work
#967 [11:25] <kingbling> it's the old launcher
#968 [11:25] <Fab> have an idea what should I do to run the demo?
#969 [11:26] <kumasasa> kingbling: The ingame menu, not launcher
#970 [11:26] <kingbling> ok
#971 [11:26] <Fab> If it's the old launcher do you think the full version will work?
#972 [11:27] <kumasasa> Fab, that was not for you
#973 [11:27] <Fab> sorry
#974 [11:27] <kingbling> thank u sooooo much
#975 [11:27] <kumasasa> :~)
#976 [11:27] <kingbling> plus 20 awesome
#977 [11:28] <kingbling> byb
#978 [11:28] <kumasasa> bye
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#980 [11:28] <kumasasa> Fab: what doesn't work ?
#981 [11:29] <Fab> There is just a black screen
#982 [11:29] <kumasasa> ok.
#983 [11:29] <kumasasa> ??> fab devconsole
#984 [11:29] <VoxelHead> fab: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#985 [11:29] <VoxelHead> fab: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it. Click submit. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#986 [11:29] <D3ar> kumasasa, I read the whole link and saw no solution. : (Sorry
#987 [11:30] <kumasasa> sorry too, cannot help more.
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#989 [11:30] <Fab> sorry, I'm a mother trying to buy this for my son...
#990 [11:30] <Fab> How can I go to the launcher?
#991 [11:31] <D3ar> you know when intel will release new drivers? and will come with a fix for this bug?
#992 [11:31] <kumasasa> fab, you did download Minecraft from here https://minecraft.net/download ?
#993 [11:31] <Fab> yes, from the www. minecraft.net "play demo"
#994 [11:31] <Fab> with my user
#995 [11:31] <kumasasa> ok.
#996 [11:32] <kumasasa> fab, you wrote that you've uninstalled Mountain Lion ?
#997 [11:32] <Fab> I just installed
#998 [11:33] <kumasasa> sorry. did misread that.
#999 [11:33] <Fab> In order to have the Java 7 for the minecraft I updated the snow leopard to the mountain lion
#1000 [11:33] <Fab> I'm with the last version of Java
#1001 [11:34] <kumasasa> hm, there is a "black screen" issue with OSX 10.6, but 10.8 ? let me dig
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#1003 [11:34] <kumasasa> Fab: mountain lion *is* 10.8 ?
#1004 [11:34] <LinuxGold> hi all
#1005 [11:35] * LinuxGold is IntensorPoet on minecraft
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#1006 [11:35] <Fab> let me check
#1007 [11:35] <Fab> 10.8.4
#1008 [11:35] <LinuxGold> running iMac 2012 (Mountain Lion), need help running minecraft as daemon
#1009 [11:35] <kumasasa> ok
#1010 [11:36] <kumasasa> LinuxGold: same thing here with "fab"
#1011 [11:36] <kumasasa> LinuxGold: Black screen when starting ?
#1012 [11:36] <LinuxGold> Invalid maximum heap size: -XmxlG
#1013 [11:36] <LinuxGold> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
#1014 [11:36] <LinuxGold> when running as (sudo _minecraft) start.command error message
#1015 [11:37] <Calinou> >is called LinuxGold >runs OS X :P
#1016 [11:37] <Calinou> LinuxGold: "l"...
#1017 [11:37] <LinuxGold> lol
#1018 [11:37] <Calinou> use "1", not l
#1019 [11:37] <LinuxGold> aha!
#1020 [11:37] <LinuxGold> thanks
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#1023 [11:37] <D3ar> you know how to dedicate the gpu for minecraft?
#1024 [11:37] <Fab> Kumasa?
#1025 [11:37] <kumasasa> mom
#1026 [11:38] <Fab> hi
#1027 [11:38] <Calinou> D3ar: dedicate the GPU for minecraft?
#1028 [11:38] <D3ar> Yes
#1029 [11:38] <Calinou> it's already the case unless you're running minecraft in a VM
#1030 [11:38] <D3ar> it's because I'm with a problem, and so far, the only solution I've seen searching vidos forums and this was it.
#1031 [11:39] <kumasasa> Fab: your issue is https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-6665 (black screen or random stuff on the screen in fullscreen)
#1032 [11:40] <Calinou> D3ar: not everyone on the internet is right ;)
#1033 [11:40] <LinuxGold> hmm, quick question, do minecraft run as daemon in linux?
#1034 [11:40] <Calinou> no, why would you do that?
#1035 [11:40] <Lutzee> Aye.. why?
#1036 [11:40] <LinuxGold> as service
#1037 [11:40] <D3ar> but it was the only solution that seems to work
#1038 [11:40] <kumasasa> Fab: did you read that ?
#1039 [11:41] <Fab> I'll try but I'm not sure because the game does not start
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#1041 [11:41] <D3ar> you know meri diana?
#1042 [11:41] <Calinou> LinuxGold: is there any reason to do that?
#1043 [11:42] <LinuxGold> Calinou: I got Linux server at home
#1044 [11:42] <LinuxGold> so I can have imac to myself :P
#1045 [11:42] <Lutzee> LinuxGold: Wait, do you mean a minecraft server then, rather than the client?
#1046 [11:43] <Calinou> yes, but I still don't get why do you want the MC server to be a service
#1047 [11:43] <Lutzee> ^
#1048 [11:43] <LinuxGold> Calinou: I play with my 2 sons who lives in different state.
#1049 [11:43] <kumasasa> fab, back to the beginning. you did download Minecraft from minecraft.net. You start it, and what happens next
#1050 [11:43] <LinuxGold> I want to allow them to log in at any time.
#1051 [11:43] <Lutzee> LinuxGold: But why a service, just start the server in a screen and leave it
#1052 [11:43] <LinuxGold> lutzee: yes.
#1053 [11:44] <LinuxGold> lutzee: I love transparent.
#1054 [11:44] <Lutzee> Theres no need for it to be a service..
#1055 [11:44] <Calinou> learning screen isn't hard
#1056 [11:44] <LinuxGold> I don't want to manually start up every time when I log in as myself.
#1057 [11:44] <Calinou> screen -R MC to enter screen
#1058 [11:44] <Calinou> Ctrl+A Ctrl+D to quit screen
#1059 [11:44] <LinuxGold> aha -- forgot all about screen
#1060 [11:44] <LinuxGold> thanks.
#1061 [11:45] <Fab> There is a security message that it's risk run the application, it happens twice, I allow run the application and then there is a black screen
#1062 [11:45] <D3ar> anyone here know how to dedicate the gpu?
#1063 [11:45] <Fab> Let me try to get the exatly message
#1064 [11:45] <D3ar> for minecraft
#1065 [11:47] <D3ar> ~~
#1066 [11:47] <Calinou> D3ar: which problem do you have, exactly?
#1067 [11:47] <D3ar> i go say
#1068 [11:48] <kumasasa> Calinou: he has an Intel HD 3000 and 7 FPS
#1069 [11:49] <Fab> name: net.minecraft.Launcher
#1070 [11:49] <Fab> publicher: unknown
#1071 [11:49] <Calinou> if you have a dedicated graphics card, then you can go in your driver's settings and [find some way to force minecraft to use it]
#1072 [11:49] <Fab> location https://.../minecraftlauncher.jar?jarv=1374223516000
#1073 [11:49] <Calinou> I don't use windows, I don't use switchable graphics so I don't know.
#1074 [11:50] <D3ar> I have a pc with the following settings: CORE i3 2.20GHz, 6GB ram, intel 3000 graphics with 512MB. is a notebook. I have the newest version of java, all my drivers are updated. In version 1.5, I with the graphics and the fast rendering area in far had the media 70/120 fps. Now, with this version, my fps with everything at least is on average 7/33fps.
#1075 [11:50] <Fab> "running this application may be a security risk"
#1076 [11:50] <Fab> This is the first message
#1077 [11:50] <Fab> The second is:
#1078 [11:50] <Fab> same name, same publisher
#1079 [11:51] <LinuxGold> used with screen in linux, how do I detach in imac?
#1080 [11:51] <Fab> location: file:users/.../minecraft.jar (it's in my computer) and "running this application may be a security risk"
#1081 [11:51] <Calinou> LinuxGold: you're using SSH, right?
#1082 [11:51] <LinuxGold> imac's default yes
#1083 [11:52] <Calinou> D3ar: if you don't have a dedicated card, nothing to do
#1084 [11:52] <Calinou> decrease the graphic settings...
#1085 [11:52] <LinuxGold> n/m -- got it.
#1086 [11:52] <kumasasa> fab, I cannot find that "Play demo" thing on www.minecraft.net. when did you download it ? just recently ?
#1087 [11:53] <Fab> http://minecraft.net/demo
#1088 [11:53] <D3ar> what? but before it worked. and today there's more?
#1089 [11:53] <Calinou> 1.6 has bigger requirements
#1090 [11:53] <kumasasa> fab " You are currently playing an older version of Minecraft. In order to play the latest version you need to download the game."
#1091 [11:54] <kumasasa> fab goto http://minecraft.net/download and download the current version
#1092 [11:54] <kumasasa> maybe you need to create an account there (for free)
#1093 [11:54] <Fab> minecraft. net , on the right side bellow the yellow button "buy now!"
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#1095 [11:54] <kumasasa> mc.net is lagging
#1096 [11:55] <kumasasa> and offline ("Our servers are working hard....please wait...")
#1097 [11:55] <Fab> I have an account, I got the message "To open “Minecraft,” you need a Java SE 6 runtime. Would you like to install one now?"
#1098 [11:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Fab: Do you have Java 6 or 7?
#1099 [11:56] <Fab> 7
#1100 [11:58] <LinuxGold> 3 minecraft servers up and running :) thanks all
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#1102 [12:00] <kumasasa> fab did you download the current version from http://minecraft.net/download or the old demo ?
#1103 [12:01] <Fab> First I did from the minecraft.net "play demo" , doesn't say if it's old...
#1104 [12:02] <Fab> Then I did with the link you gave me
#1105 [12:02] <kumasasa> and that complains about Java 7 ?
#1106 [12:02] <Fab> yes
#1107 [12:03] <Fab> I can delete everything that was downloaded and try again your link, is that ok?
#1108 [12:03] <kumasasa> sure
#1109 [12:03] <Fab> sorry, if your link I got the message from java se 6
#1110 [12:04] <Fab> I'm deleting the downloads
#1111 [12:04] <kumasasa> Fab: the only thing about OSX 10.8 i find is that: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/901687-error-minecraft-is-damaged
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#1114 [12:07] <LinuxGold> Calinou: since you are familiar with imac terminal, is there any good irc client for that terminal?
#1115 [12:07] <LinuxGold> I'm used with EPIC irc on linux
#1116 [12:08] <Calinou> O_o
#1117 [12:08] <Calinou> never heard of that
#1118 [12:08] <Calinou> don't know
#1119 [12:08] <Calinou> I don't use OS X
#1120 [12:09] <LinuxGold> ok
#1121 [12:09] <Fab> I installed the "java se 6 runtime" and I got the Launcher screen
#1122 [12:09] <Pymous> Someone know where I can download the default resource pack ? :)
#1123 [12:09] <LinuxGold> Calinou: thanks though.
#1124 [12:10] <Fab> Now the demo is working
#1125 [12:10] <Fab> using from the launcher screen
#1126 [12:10] <Fab> Crazy!
#1127 [12:10] <kumasasa> hm, strange.
#1128 [12:11] <kumasasa> fab, did you get the Java 6 from apple or from oracle ?
#1129 [12:11] <Calinou> does oracle even distribute java for OS X themself?
#1130 [12:11] <kumasasa> i dunno. just asking
#1131 [12:11] <Fab> I believe apple because I follow all the instructions from apple
#1132 [12:12] <kumasasa> ok. lesson learned.
#1133 [12:12] <Fab> My son is really happy here and crazy to start playing. Thank you for your help!
#1134 [12:13] <LinuxGold> lol
#1135 [12:13] <kumasasa> well, I didn't do anything ;-)
#1136 [12:13] * LinuxGold 's 2 boys were the same way
#1136 [12:14] <Fab> You helped me learn more about the support resources... Thanks again, bye
#1137 [12:14] <Fab> You helped me learn more about the support resources... Thanks again, bye
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#1140 [12:15] <LinuxGold> wish there is Flip flop WITHOUT piston
#1141 [12:15] <kumasasa> bye
#1142 [12:17] <Calinou> you can make flipflops without piston
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#1144 [12:17] <LinuxGold> hmm...
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#1147 [12:18] <kumasasa> LinuxGold: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Memory_circuit
#1148 [12:18] <Dennisjohnsen02> how thow do i get more ram
#1149 [12:18] <Necrodoom> i made my flipflops before pistons ever existed
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#1151 [12:18] <Necrodoom> these darn kids use pistons for everything
#1152 [12:18] <LinuxGold> thanks for the url
#1153 [12:18] <LinuxGold> checking it out
#1154 [12:19] * Necrodoom old man
#1154 [12:19] <Burnfred> I have a problem. I've tried to give Java/Minecraft more RAM but when I started the game, it said:"Error: Could not create the Java virtual Machine. Error: a fatal exception was ocurred. Programm will exit." Can somebody please help me?
#1155 [12:20] <Lutzee> Burnfred: Er, you probably tried to give it more RAM than was available
#1156 [12:20] <Burnfred> I tried 2Gb and my Computer has a memory of 8 gb
#1157 [12:21] <Calinou> you don't allocate ridiculous amounts of RAM to minecraft :P
#1158 [12:21] <Calinou> 1GB will do fine :P
#1159 [12:21] <Necrodoom> try 1.5GB
#1160 [12:21] <LinuxGold> or by default
#1161 [12:21] <Necrodoom> if OS/java is 32bit youd be limited to around 1.5GB
#1162 [12:22] <Burnfred> okay, thanks ^^
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#1164 [12:26] <LinuxGold> grr...
#1165 [12:26] <LinuxGold> my son removed a column of pistons from my clock just for fun
#1166 [12:27] <Necrodoom> i always backup my important minecraft stuff
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#1171 [12:37] <Pymous> I'm messing up with my Resource Pack, is there a way to "reload" my resource pack without having to load another one and load back mine ?
#1172 [12:38] <kumasasa> Pymous: F3 + T
#1173 [12:39] <Pymous> Just awesome
#1174 [12:39] <Pymous> Thanks you
#1175 [12:41] <kumasasa> Pymous: tip: don't zip your resource pack while editing, keep the files in the folders
#1176 [12:41] <Pymous> That's what I'm doing, much easier to check changes
#1177 [12:42] <Pymous> And that's why I was looking for a shortcut, it was the only thing missing :)
#1178 [12:42] <Pymous> kumasasa > Do you know where I can download the default texture pack ?
#1179 [12:42] <kumasasa> it's in minecraft.jar, use 7Z to extract it
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#1181 [12:43] <Pymous> Thanks you :)
#1182 [12:44] <Pymous> It's nice to see a calm and nice channel outside #Bukkit-like
#1183 [12:44] <Pymous> #minecraft is a pain in the ass
#1184 [12:44] <Mvek> Hello, since last year, I am still experiencing (have not been playing for months) visual problem - dark blocks. Often I see totally black blocks in shadow, when I touch them, they often properly displays as dark areas. This happens on different computers since last summer.
#1185 [12:44] <Mvek> Is ther already some solution to these dark blocks?
#1186 [12:44] <Pymous> It's light issue
#1187 [12:45] <Pymous> Are you playing in 1.6.2 ?
#1188 [12:45] <Mvek> I downloaded the latest Window Minecraft launcher so I should have the latest game
#1189 [12:45] <Mvek> (I have not yet copied there backed up saves etc. so it is vanilla install)
#1190 [12:45] <Pymous> Okay
#1191 [12:45] <Pymous> Try to use Optifine too
#1192 [12:45] <Pymous> It fix some issue
#1193 [12:46] <kumasasa> Mvek: something like https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-1018 ?
#1194 [12:46] <Calinou> optifien is a mod
#1195 [12:46] <Calinou> it won't fix anything, Pymous
#1196 [12:46] <Calinou> Mvek: can't do anything against it, except placing/removing blocks.
#1197 [12:46] <Pymous> Calinou > Because it's a mod, it doesn't fix anything ?
#1198 [12:46] <Mvek> kumasasa: Yes, exactly. I know it is known issue:-)
#1199 [12:47] <Mvek> I am just surprised that after a year, it is not solved
#1200 [12:47] <kumasasa> we too ;-)
#1201 [12:47] <kumasasa> according to jeb_'s tweet of today, it's fixed now.
#1202 [12:48] <kumasasa> https://twitter.com/jeb_/status/362559336033165312
#1203 [12:48] <Syer> @jeb_: Finally! Much fewer "black spots" in the terrain generator, such a relief =) http://t.co/eWigZM8Rqs
#1204 [12:48] <Lutzee> Mvek: Part of the problem was they could fix it, but the fixes were very CPU intensive and slow
#1205 [12:48] <Mvek> Hm, nice timing for me:-)
#1206 [12:49] <Mvek> Lutzee: seems like some problem wth added technology, hm... because it was not present 2 years ago.
#1207 [12:49] <Lutzee> Sounds like they have actually altered terrain gen to fix issues not the lighting engine
#1208 [12:49] <Calinou> Mvek: yes, it's present since 1.2
#1209 [12:49] <Calinou> theorically it can be fixed but would cause freezes
#1210 [12:49] <Calinou> what Lutzee said, basically
#1211 [12:49] <Calinou> <Mvek> I am just surprised that after a year, it is not solved
#1212 [12:49] <Calinou> you've never seen graphic drivers then :P
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#1216 [12:57] <Mvek> Anyway thanks, I will rather leave, before I start thinking about other "problems" brought by newer versions (like great new terrain generation, but no way to get the old one too) :-)
#1217 [12:57] <Mvek> because i don't want to participate in flame
#1218 [12:58] <Mvek> so thanks
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#1223 [13:05] <Hend> Minecrft
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#1226 [13:08] <yaelflash> hello
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#1229 [13:11] <yaelflash> please help me my video card is up to date it keeps telling me that minecraft needs video card updated
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#1231 [13:12] <kumasasa> ??> yaelflash win/dxdiag
#1232 [13:12] <VoxelHead> yaelflash: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1233 [13:12] <VoxelHead> yaelflash: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1234 [13:13] <MadMom> We are having two problems. The first is that when my son gets into the game and starts to push the letters to walk/move (and whatever the other letters do) a blinking underscore comes up in the bottom left-hand corner of the screen and the letters he's pushing type in. You can push escape and it will go away for a little bit but then comes right back.
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#1238 [13:18] <yaelflash> http://pastebin.com/GJvbMpYu
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#1240 [13:18] <kumasasa> yaelflash: according to that dxdiag report, you have *no* graphics card
#1241 [13:19] <adencraft2000> is it possable to not have a graphics card?
#1242 [13:20] <yaelflash> what should i do i have a laptop
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#1247 [13:21] <K3V1N8700> how do i load schematics in 1.6.2
#1248 [13:22] <Calinou> is that the whole report, yaelflash?
#1249 [13:22] <kumasasa> yaelflash: hm.
#1250 [13:22] <Calinou> K3V1N8700: there is no such thing.
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#1252 [13:22] <kumasasa> K3V1N8700: google for MCedit
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#1254 [13:23] <adencraft2000> Use MCEDIT, mcedit.net
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#1256 [13:24] <Calinou> yep
#1257 [13:24] <Calinou> that is still third party :P
#1258 [13:24] <kumasasa> yaelflash: please copy the *complete* report to pastebin.
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#1260 [13:24] <kumasasa> CTRL-A, (mark all) CTRL-C (copy) and CTRL-V (paste)
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#1263 [13:27] <HelpMe> yes i made an account at my friends house and now im at my house and it want let me buy the game
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#1266 [13:28] <Calinou> HelpMe: "won't let me buy the game"? what do you mean exactly?
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#1268 [13:29] <HelpMe> it makes me prove the email is mine then it says ive sighned into the wrong account
#1269 [13:31] <yaelflash> http://pastebin.com/LfGvVQWL new paste
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#1272 [13:34] <kumasasa> yaelflash: moment
#1273 [13:35] <kumasasa> yaelflash: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/integrated_vista32.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.2.3.2&lang=English
#1274 [13:35] <kumasasa> that's the most current driver
#1275 [13:35] <kumasasa> try this
#1276 [13:36] <yaelflash> ok working
#1277 [13:37] <kumasasa> fine.
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#1284 [13:41] <laklek> is someone of mojang here?
#1285 [13:41] <laklek> need osme help
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#1288 [13:42] <Extreme> laklek, what's the issue?
#1289 [13:42] <laklek> So my problem is the error: pixel not accelerated, you know that error from driver not updated or something?
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#1291 [13:43] <Extreme> laklek, known issue, please provide your dxdiag
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#1293 [13:43] <Extreme> ??> laklek win/dxdiag/bat
#1294 [13:43] <VoxelHead> laklek: Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1295 [13:43] <VoxelHead> laklek: Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1296 [13:43] <Extreme> laklek, that will give us the information we need about your system and GPU, etc
#1297 [13:44] <laklek> dxdiag not found
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#1299 [13:44] <Extreme> laklek, ok, try this manuall method:
#1300 [13:44] <Extreme> ??> laklek win/dxdiag
#1301 [13:44] <VoxelHead> laklek: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1302 [13:44] <laklek> my os: windows 8 my gpu: nvidea gt 635m
#1303 [13:44] <VoxelHead> laklek: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1304 [13:45] <Extreme> laklek, we need your dxdiag
#1305 [13:45] <laklek> http://pastebin.com/bQeJ9BdY
#1306 [13:45] <Extreme> laklek, the whole thing
#1307 [13:45] <laklek> thats the whole thing i think? wait ill do it again
#1308 [13:46] <laklek> ow i see :)
#1309 [13:46] <laklek> its just not english, but dutch
#1310 [13:46] <Extreme> whatever
#1311 [13:47] <laklek> http://pastebin.com/2HA26d9K
#1312 [13:47] <Extreme> >windows 8 my gpu: nvidea gt 635m
#1313 [13:47] <Extreme> laklek, you have nVidia
#1314 [13:48] <laklek> yes
#1315 [13:48] <Extreme> I mean intel
#1316 [13:48] <laklek> also
#1317 [13:48] <Extreme> ??< gpu/intel
#1318 [13:48] <laklek> but i run minecraft.exe with nvidia proccessor
#1319 [13:49] <Extreme> I see
#1320 [13:49] <laklek> with my intel gpu i have 30 fps, with my nvidea 100-200 fps
#1321 [13:50] <laklek> http://prntscr.com/1j02az look that
#1322 [13:50] <laklek> you can see to at the left that i have my driver installed
#1323 [13:51] <Extreme> laklek, install this: http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win8-win7-64bit-320.49-whql-driver.html
#1324 [13:52] <Calinou> still a terrible GPU :P
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#1326 [13:52] <laklek> http://prntscr.com/1j02lw now its says this with what i installed and nope its not a bad gpu
#1327 [13:52] <laklek> that means Thats something wrong with the programm from nvidea
#1328 [13:53] <laklek> but thats not what you suggested for installing
#1329 [13:53] <laklek> ill now install what you sayed
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#1332 [13:53] <kumasasa> lalek : forget about nvdia experience.
#1333 [13:53] <kumasasa> the driver is installed.
#1334 [13:54] <laklek> i know...
#1335 [13:55] <laklek> i need to restart...
#1336 [13:55] <laklek> ill come back in a minute
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#1339 [13:59] <laklek> srr windows needed to be updated too
#1340 [13:59] <laklek> but im back and ill try
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#1342 [13:59] <laklek> no wait its still installing
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#1345 [14:02] <kumasasa> laklek: there will be a .NET 4.0 update and after that update another .NET 4.0 update... see you in 1 hour
#1346 [14:02] <laklek> ok
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#1348 [14:04] <laklek> still not working
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#1352 [14:07] <tolsimier275> I have the following problem: I had a old world that i would like to play but if i select the world, the game stops running. After removing the session.log i spawn in an ocean instad of my old city. After long reserching i found out that the island with the city was removed by the ocean. Can anybody help me.
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#1354 [14:07] <tolsimier275> I have the following problem: I had a old world that i would like to play but if i select the world, the game stops running. After removing the session.log i spawn in an ocean instad of my old city. After long reserching i found out that the island with the city was removed by the ocean. Can anybody help me.
#1355 [14:08] <lrjstn> hi my minecraft keeps crashing before i can be able to play
#1356 [14:08] <Edward> I can't allocate more RAM to my minecraft. Can someone help me? It says "Error: Could not create the java virtual machine"
#1357 [14:08] <Edward> lrjstn, are you using mods?
#1358 [14:08] <kumasasa> laklek: "still not working" means you have too low FPS ?
#1359 [14:09] <lrjstn> no i just got the game and i was never able to play it
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#1361 [14:09] <Edward> I can't allocate more RAM to my minecraft. Can someone help?
#1362 [14:10] <laklek> to low can't cause normal on minecraft i have 100-200fps
#1363 [14:10] <kumasasa> tolsimier275: probably your world was corrupt so that the game repaired the chunks
#1364 [14:10] <laklek> i needed to reset my whole pc
#1365 [14:11] <Edward> I know how to add more RAM, but I get an error message after allocating 2GB RAM.
#1366 [14:11] <kumasasa> laklek: the problem is, that the game doesn't recognize the AMD GPU and runs on the embedded Intel crap
#1367 [14:11] <tolsimier275> Can i fix it ?
#1368 [14:11] <kumasasa> laklek: that's https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-15072 - AFAIK no solution to this issue yet.
#1369 [14:11] <Calinou> Edward: don't allocate more than 1.5GB of RAM
#1370 [14:11] <Calinou> you shouldn't anyway
#1371 [14:11] <Edward> Ah, ok
#1372 [14:11] <Edward> Thanks
#1373 [14:11] <laklek> know its crap, but first i had this error too before i needed to reset my pc and then it works, ill take a look to the website
#1374 [14:12] <kumasasa> tolsimier275: you can try here http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/137381-official-corrupted-save-recovery-thread/
#1375 [14:12] <tolsimier275> Thank you ^^
#1376 [14:12] <kumasasa> ??> lrjstn devconsole
#1377 [14:12] <VoxelHead> lrjstn: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#1378 [14:12] <VoxelHead> lrjstn: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it. Click submit. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
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#1381 [14:13] <laklek> I never lagged in minecraft...
#1382 [14:15] <lrjstn> oh i know what happened
#1383 [14:15] <lrjstn> Pixel Format Not Accelerated
#1384 [14:16] <lrjstn> but when i looked at what manufacturer i had it said standard display types HELP!!!
#1385 [14:17] <Extreme> lrjstn, dxdiag?
#1386 [14:17] <Extreme> ??> lrjstn win/dxdiag/bat
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#1388 [14:17] <VoxelHead> lrjstn: Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1389 [14:17] <VoxelHead> lrjstn: Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
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#1392 [14:20] <lrjstn> here http://pastebin.com/bcRSBbGK
#1393 [14:21] <Extreme> lrjstn, no graphics card
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#1395 [14:21] <Extreme> lrjstn, did your computer come like that?
#1396 [14:22] <lrjstn> yes
#1397 [14:22] <lrjstn> so what do i do
#1398 [14:23] <Extreme> lrjstn, did you upgrade your computer?
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#1400 [14:24] <lrjstn> yes windows 7 was installed
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#1402 [14:26] <Extreme> HP dosen't have drivers for that
#1403 [14:27] <Extreme> lrjstn, you should contact HP support and tell them your missing a driver
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#1406 [14:27] <jombersson> where to talk about servers?
#1407 [14:27] <Extreme> jombersson, the forums, or #smp
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#1412 [14:33] <laklek> i cant find the problem .. why it doenst work now and a few days ago does it (before laptop reset)
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#1415 [14:35] <Xerxes> Hey
#1416 [14:35] <Xerxes> Welcome back
#1417 [14:35] <DrPepper> Hello again
#1418 [14:36] <DrPepper> So I was stupid in thinking my old worlds were the problem. It is for sure the skins :/
#1419 [14:37] <Xerxes> OK
#1420 [14:37] <DrPepper> It just keeps on crashing :( Once the world crashes, I think it even crashes offline too.
#1421 [14:38] <DrPepper> Can Mojang reset my skin for me?
#1422 [14:38] <Xerxes> What country do you live in?
#1423 [14:38] <DrPepper> The United States
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#1425 [14:38] <Xerxes> Well you wanna try contacting mojang?
#1426 [14:39] <DrPepper> Ya, I'm gonna have to. It's a pain to wipe my .minecraft file out in %appdata% everytime I want to play ya know?
#1427 [14:41] <Xerxes> Yeap
#1428 [14:41] <Xerxes> Actually, I wanna have you try something first
#1429 [14:41] <Xerxes> What OS?
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#1431 [14:41] <DrPepper> Ok cool. Windows 7
#1432 [14:42] <Xerxes> Mmkay
#1433 [14:42] <Xerxes> Click on the mc icon once, and then right click on it, and hit run as admin
#1434 [14:42] <laklek> ok update, found this: http://prntscr.com/1j0dg7
#1435 [14:43] <DrPepper> Ok, I did that.
#1436 [14:43] <laklek> its says that i dient installed my driver
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#1438 [14:43] <DrPepper> It still crashed.
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#1441 [14:44] <The_Epic_Yak> Hello is there where I could get help over claiming a server on the minecraft forums?
#1442 [14:44] <agentparkman> is there a way to launce minecraft witout the minecraft.exe it seems that it downloads the game at every startup
#1443 [14:44] <Extreme> The_Epic_Yak, ask in #minecraftforums
#1444 [14:45] <Extreme> agentparkman, that is required
#1445 [14:45] <Extreme> agentparkman, that is required
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#1447 [14:45] <agentparkman> ok thanks
#1448 [14:45] <Extreme> agentparkman, it set's up the enviornment for the game and actually launches the game
#1449 [14:46] <agentparkman> ok thanks
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#1453 [14:49] <DrPepper> Welp, I'll just contact Mojang and see what happens :( This really sucks though. Thanks Xerxes and take care.
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#1459 [14:54] <laklek> omg i acctually found it at myself :p
#1460 [14:54] <laklek> i downgreaded java :)
#1461 [14:54] <laklek> but ty for help, cya
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#1464 [14:56] <andi> I can log in but I can not connect to the game?
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#1474 [15:15] <FutureMagick> Hi is marzenia here..
#1475 [15:16] <FutureMagick> Or anyone from cs
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#1485 [19:48] <heyhowareya> does a password reset email always take forever to get? : /
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#1490 [20:05] <tadtad54> hi my minecraft when i try an launch it it says that my graphics card isnt good enough or something like that
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#1495 [20:13] <Guest5904> i tried to connect to minecraft and it says my graphics card needs a new driver how do i get a new driver?
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#1497 [20:13] <cestislife> He left in 9 seconds
#1498 [20:13] <cestislife> lol
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#1502 [20:18] <Bailey1028> Can someone help me
#1503 [20:19] <Camman19> with what?
#1504 [20:19] <Bailey1028> Minecraft says it has bad video card drivers
#1505 [20:19] <Bailey1028> or not up to date
#1506 [20:19] <Bailey1028> and i have windows 8
#1507 [20:19] <Camman19> brb i will see
#1508 [20:21] <Camman19> stupid questio but have you tried updating them
#1509 [20:21] <Bailey1028> they are up to date
#1510 [20:21] <Bailey1028> Do you use minecraft with windows 8 and if so, does it work?
#1511 [20:21] <Lutzee> ??> Bailey1028 win/dxdiag
#1512 [20:21] <VoxelHead> Bailey1028: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1513 [20:21] <VoxelHead> Bailey1028: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1514 [20:22] <Camman19> now i need help
#1515 [20:22] <Camman19> Ive had minecraft for two years and it has worked fine suddenly since 1.6 it has started saying my password is wrong when i know it is right
#1516 [20:23] <Camman19> same with my sister's account
#1517 [20:24] <Bailey1028> http://pastebin.com/J5zMLhRM
#1518 [20:24] <Bailey1028> There
#1519 [20:25] <Bailey1028> Now what do I do?
#1520 [20:25] <Lutzee> One second
#1521 [20:26] <Bailey1028> Not you Lutzee
#1522 [20:26] <Camman19> if someone could help me that would be great ive tried a ton
#1523 [20:26] <Bailey1028> You can try reseting your password
#1524 [20:26] <Camman19> it was an old email account that was deleted
#1525 [20:27] <Camman19> ive tried that
#1526 [20:27] <Lutzee> Bailey1028: Did you update your PC to windows 8? :/
#1527 [20:27] <Bailey1028> Yes I did
#1528 [20:27] <Bailey1028> Trust me and I was talking to VoxelHead not you
#1529 [20:27] <Lutzee> Okay, try install these http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeonaiw-vista64.aspx
#1530 [20:28] <Bailey1028> What is the link to?
#1531 [20:28] <Lutzee> Bailey1028: Voxelhead is a bot, i triggerd one of its factoids
#1532 [20:28] <Lutzee> Graphics drivers
#1533 [20:28] <Bailey1028> Factoids?
#1534 [20:28] <Bailey1028> Have you ever had this problem?
#1535 [20:28] <Lutzee> Commonly used help resources
#1536 [20:28] <Bailey1028> What?
#1537 [20:29] <Lutzee> And I've helped many hundreds of people with your problem.
#1538 [20:29] <Bailey1028> Did it fix the problem?
#1539 [20:29] <Lutzee> Yes.
#1540 [20:29] <Bailey1028> Okay I will be right back!
#1541 [20:30] <Camman19> can you try and help me while he's gone please
#1542 [20:30] <Bailey1028> Which one do i get?
#1543 [20:30] <Lutzee> Bailey1028: top one
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#1545 [20:30] <Bailey1028> Okay
#1546 [20:31] <PhaseWatch1337> this was the plroblem i need help with ---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
#1547 [20:31] <Lutzee> ??> PhaseWatch1337 pastebin
#1548 [20:31] <VoxelHead> PhaseWatch1337: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1550 [20:31] <joedirt> my minecraft dont work
#1551 [20:31] <Lutzee> Camman19: You need to find your transaction IDs for the accounts then contact mojang account support
#1552 [20:31] <RosesBoiiii> JOE!!!
#1553 [20:31] <Lutzee> ??> joedirt ask
#1554 [20:32] <VoxelHead> joedirt: Please don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1555 [20:32] <VoxelHead> joedirt: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1556 [20:32] <Camman19> where do i find those
#1557 [20:32] <joedirt> rosieboiiii what?
#1558 [20:32] <Lutzee> Camman19: Do you not have the email for either of the accounts?
#1559 [20:32] <Camman19> i dont think so
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#1561 [20:33] <Lutzee> Camman19: it would be best if you can check if you do first
#1562 [20:33] <Camman19> not mine
#1563 [20:33] <Camman19> i know i dont have the email for mine i will check my sisters
#1564 [20:33] <RosesBoiiii> When I go to the website, I go to download Minecraft. It says I need to download " Java Run Time 1.6.0 ". So I go forth, and do so. After download complete. I got back to download the Minecraft. Same problem. I dont know what to do. Help me please.
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#1566 [20:35] <PhaseWatch1337> ok i did it here it is http://pastebin.com/N6KD2NMC
#1567 [20:35] <joedirt> is there dogs in minecraft?
#1568 [20:35] <joedirt> do they bark like for real?
#1569 [20:35] <joedirt> .-.
#1570 [20:36] <joedirt> hellllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo -_-
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#1572 [20:36] <joedirt> HELLO
#1573 [20:36] <joedirt> SQUIRRELS BARK TOO
#1574 [20:36] <joedirt> WHERE ARE YOU PEOPLE
#1575 [20:36] <Lutzee> ??> PhaseWatch1337 mods
#1576 [20:36] <VoxelHead> PhaseWatch1337: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
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#1578 [20:37] <VoxelHead> PhaseWatch1337: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1579 [20:37] <Lutzee> joedirt: There are wolves
#1580 [20:37] <joedirt> oh
#1581 [20:37] <joedirt> kewl
#1582 [20:37] <joedirt> can you help roseboiiiii now
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#1584 [20:37] <joedirt> he needs help
#1585 [20:37] <RosesBoiiii> Yes please
#1586 [20:37] <RosesBoiiii> When I go to the website, I go to download Minecraft. It says I need to download " Java Run Time 1.6.0 ". So I go forth, and do so. After download complete. I got back to download the Minecraft. Same problem. I dont know what to do. Help me please.
#1587 [20:38] <joedirt> <Lutzee> answer RosesBoiiii
#1588 [20:38] <Lutzee> RosesBoiiii: uninstall every version of java on your PC then install the latest version of Java 7
#1589 [20:38] <Lutzee> ??> RosesBoiiii java/1.7
#1590 [20:38] <VoxelHead> RosesBoiiii: You can get Java 1.7 for almost any platform here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
#1591 [20:38] <joedirt> yay!
#1592 [20:38] <joedirt> hey
#1593 [20:38] <RosesBoiiii> Ok Lutzee, I will do so
#1594 [20:38] <RosesBoiiii> BRB in a few
#1595 [20:38] <joedirt> do wolves bark?
#1596 [20:39] <joedirt> or do they even make sounds im minecraft?
#1597 [20:39] <joedirt> is the nether dragon thing real too?????
#1598 [20:39] <joedirt> and nether sky god of thor?
#1599 [20:40] <joedirt> ?
#1600 [20:40] <joedirt> XC
#1601 [20:40] <joedirt> pwease answer
#1602 [20:42] <Wug> :|
#1603 [20:42] <Wug> yes wolves bark
#1604 [20:42] <Wug> there is no nether dragon
#1605 [20:42] <Wug> (there is an ender dragon though)
#1606 [20:42] <joedirt> what about nether sky god of thor
#1607 [20:42] <Wug> nope
#1608 [20:42] <joedirt> wow
#1609 [20:42] <joedirt> really
#1610 [20:42] <joedirt> are you sure
#1611 [20:42] <Wug> unless some mod adds it
#1612 [20:42] <Bailey1028> Thank you it works omg omg omg omg omg omg Lutzeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1613 [20:43] <joedirt> i swear i hear d some weird stuff in the nether
#1614 [20:43] <joedirt> mods?
#1615 [20:43] <joedirt> like corn mods
#1616 [20:43] <Wug> ghasts make obnoxious noises that can be heard anywhere
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#1618 [20:43] <joedirt> or is ther e real corn?
#1619 [20:43] <Wug> like an angry baby
#1620 [20:43] <joedirt> hmmm
#1621 [20:44] <joedirt> angry baby?
#1622 [20:44] <joedirt> can you buy corn from the market on minecraft
#1623 [20:44] <joedirt> can you buy anything in minecraft world ?
#1624 [20:45] <joedirt> my mom just told me to shut up
#1625 [20:45] <joedirt> i was soo exicited that you could buy corn on here that i started yelling
#1626 [20:46] <joedirt> should i stop playing minecraft?
#1627 [20:46] <joedirt> is it a waste of time
#1628 [20:46] <joedirt> or ?
#1629 [20:46] <joedirt> ?
#1630 [20:46] <Wug> uhh
#1631 [20:47] <Wug> I have no idea what you're after
#1632 [20:47] <RosesBoiiii> Lol
#1633 [20:47] <joedirt> ok ok
#1634 [20:47] <joedirt> i'll make it short
#1635 [20:47] <RosesBoiiii> Almost done uninstalling
#1636 [20:47] <joedirt> Is there corn in minecraft?
#1637 [20:47] <Wug> not without mods
#1638 [20:47] <joedirt> oh
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#1640 [20:47] <RosesBoiiii> Is modding illegal
#1641 [20:47] <Wug> no
#1642 [20:47] <joedirt> can you buy stuff?\ in minceraft?
#1643 [20:47] <RosesBoiiii> Ok good
#1644 [20:47] <Wug> joedirt: you can trade with villagers
#1645 [20:48] <joedirt> TRADE
#1646 [20:48] <joedirt> with what?
#1647 [20:48] <Wug> they use emeralds as currency
#1648 [20:48] <Wug> some buy stuff, others sell it
#1649 [20:48] <joedirt> whays emeralds ?
#1650 [20:48] <joedirt> ooooooo its that blue rock right
#1651 [20:48] <joedirt> thats like a diamond or something ?
#1652 [20:48] <Wug> that's a question for the wiki. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Emerald
#1653 [20:49] <Wug> diamonds are not emeralds
#1654 [20:49] <joedirt> i never use diamond rock
#1655 [20:49] <joedirt> thats terrible
#1656 [20:49] <joedirt> what else does emerald do?
#1657 [20:49] <Wug> you can make it into a decorative rock and place it
#1658 [20:49] <RosesBoiiii> How much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood ay?
#1659 [20:49] <Wug> but its mostly just money
#1660 [20:49] <joedirt> oohhhhh
#1661 [20:49] <Wug> RosesBoiiii: 9001
#1662 [20:49] <joedirt> moeny
#1663 [20:49] <joedirt> ohhhhhhh
#1664 [20:49] <RosesBoiiii> LOL
#1665 [20:50] <joedirt> cause its green right?
#1666 [20:50] <joedirt> or is it like a purple ?
#1667 [20:50] <Wug> joedirt: look at the wiki page
#1668 [20:50] <RosesBoiiii> Its blue you idied
#1669 [20:50] <Wug> it has a picture
#1670 [20:50] <RosesBoiiii> Idiot*
#1671 [20:50] <joedirt> ohh
#1672 [20:50] <joedirt> ok
#1673 [20:50] <joedirt> ew
#1674 [20:50] <joedirt> its green
#1675 [20:50] <Wug> RosesBoiiii: if you don't have something nice to say, go away
#1676 [20:50] <joedirt> ew
#1677 [20:50] <joedirt> ew
#1678 [20:51] <RosesBoiiii> Sorry WUG
#1679 [20:51] <RosesBoiiii> We know each other
#1680 [20:51] <RosesBoiiii> Cx
#1681 [20:51] <joedirt> you know wug too?
#1682 [20:51] <RosesBoiiii> Yea
#1683 [20:51] <joedirt> she my wife....
#1684 [20:51] <joedirt> omfg
#1685 [20:51] <joedirt> WUG
#1686 [20:51] <joedirt> are you cheating on me!!!
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#1688 [20:52] <Wug> this isn't a general chat channel
#1689 [20:52] <joedirt> oh
#1690 [20:52] <joedirt> im sorry
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#1693 [20:52] <joedirt> i will respect you
#1694 [20:52] <joedirt> i love you wifey wug
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#1696 [20:52] <Wug> MinecraftGirl: you can use /nick to change your name
#1697 [20:52] <PhaseWatch1337> i have a problem but i dont know what it means recv failed
#1698 [20:52] <MinecraftGirl> Oh ok Thanks wug :)
#1699 [20:52] <Wug> PhaseWatch1337: just one server or all of them
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#1701 [20:53] <PhaseWatch1337> it does it sometimes or it dosent but it is all servers
#1702 [20:53] <PhaseWatch1337> when it does it everyone looks like steves
#1703 [20:53] <PhaseWatch1337> and not moving
#1704 [20:54] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> Hi
#1705 [20:54] <MinecraftGirl> Can I have a 1.6.2 launcher please
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#1707 [20:54] <Wug> GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag: you == joedirt
#1708 [20:54] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> I need 1.5.1 version of minecraft.
#1709 [20:55] <Wug> ??> GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag win/client
#1710 [20:55] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> i hate you
#1711 [20:55] <VoxelHead> GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag: https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1712 [20:55] <Wug> no wait
#1713 [20:55] <Wug> MinecraftGirl: that was for you
#1714 [20:55] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> oh
#1715 [20:55] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> lol
#1716 [20:55] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> but i need 1.5.1
#1717 [20:55] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> pweaseeee
#1718 [20:55] <MinecraftGirl> Im cofused :(
#1719 [20:55] <Wug> GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag: I think you can just make a new launcher profile and pick version 1.5.1
#1720 [20:55] <Wug> MinecraftGirl: click the link
#1721 [20:55] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> click the link he sent
#1722 [20:55] <MinecraftGirl> Okay
#1723 [20:55] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1724 [20:55] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> that one
#1725 [20:55] <Lord_Ralex> GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag, start the new launcher, select "New Profile"
#1726 [20:56] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> kk
#1727 [20:56] <Lord_Ralex> GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag, from there, just select the version you want
#1728 [20:56] <PhaseWatch1337> is it just bad connection or can i fix it
#1729 [20:56] <MinecraftGirl> How do I select version... Im so stupid. Gahhhh
#1730 [20:57] <MinecraftGirl> Im a stupid girl :(
#1731 [20:57] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> it says profile manager
#1732 [20:57] <MinecraftGirl> Ohhh
#1733 [20:57] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> nvm
#1734 [20:57] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> i found
#1735 [20:57] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> ty
#1736 [20:57] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> btw
#1737 [20:57] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> can i ask an off topic question?
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#1739 [20:57] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> you dont have to answer
#1740 [20:57] <Camman19> Ive had minecraft for two years and it has worked fine suddenly since 1.6 it has started saying my password is wrong when i know it is right the email it was under has been terminated and cannot be reset so if anyone could find a solution i would be in your debt forever
#1741 [20:57] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> how does the chat work?
#1742 [20:58] <Wug> Camman19: do you have your transaction id
#1743 [20:58] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> can you block our ip from it?
#1744 [20:58] <Camman19> no
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#1746 [20:58] <Wug> GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag: I coukd
#1747 [20:58] <Camman19> i dont think so
#1748 [20:58] <MinecraftGirl> MY MINECRAFT WORKS!
#1749 [20:58] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> ok
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#1751 [20:58] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> umm
#1752 [20:58] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> one more
#1753 [20:58] <MinecraftGirl> I love you guys!
#1754 [20:58] <Wug> Camman19: can you recover it from your paypal history
#1755 [20:58] <MinecraftGirl> Cx :)
#1756 [20:58] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> is this your job?
#1757 [20:58] <Wug> GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag: no, we're volunteers
#1758 [20:58] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> oohhhh
#1759 [20:58] <Wug> mostly
#1760 [20:58] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> thats badass
#1761 [20:58] <Wug> there are some staff members here
#1762 [20:58] <Camman19> i dont know it was 2 years ago
#1763 [20:58] <MinecraftGirl> Wug
#1764 [20:59] <MinecraftGirl> I love you! Thank you :)
#1765 [20:59] <Wug> Camman19: the transaction id is proof of ownership
#1766 [20:59] <MinecraftGirl> Cx
#1767 [20:59] <Wug> MinecraftGirl: np <3
#1768 [20:59] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> is their a way to make a chat like this for my own purpose?
#1769 [20:59] <Wug> Camman19: if you can get it somehow then you can email mojang and they'll reset the email to whatever you want
#1770 [20:59] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> or is this only a minecraft thing?
#1771 [20:59] <Camman19> ill try to find it
#1772 [20:59] <Wug> without it, you have no option but to remember the password, or get access to the email account again somehow
#1773 [20:59] <LinuxGold> either D Latch F is designed incorrectly or am I doing it wrong...
#1774 [20:59] <Camman19> but i used a credit card to buy it
#1775 [21:00] <Wug> Camman19: through moneybookers?
#1776 [21:00] <Wug> hold on
#1777 [21:00] <Camman19> idk
#1778 [21:00] <MinecraftGirl> Wug, doesnt this get boring after a while?
#1779 [21:00] <Camman19> just typed in credit card info
#1780 [21:00] <Wug> MinecraftGirl: I multitask
#1781 [21:00] <MinecraftGirl> I see, do you get paid? < Stupid question
#1782 [21:00] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> is there a site where i can make my own chat and stuff?
#1783 [21:01] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> or this only for minecraft?
#1784 [21:01] <Wug> ??> Camman19 transactionid
#1785 [21:01] <VoxelHead> Camman19: How to find your Transaction ID: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#1786 [21:01] <Wug> and also
#1787 [21:01] <Wug> ??> Camman19 transactionid/list
#1788 [21:01] <VoxelHead> Camman19: If you have lost your transaction ID, an alternative method of identity verification is by sending Mojang your last 4 digit of Credit Card number and the card holder name. This only works if you paid by Credit Card (not PayPal).
#1789 [21:01] <Wug> GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag: you can create a channel by joining an empty one
#1790 [21:01] <MinecraftGirl> Going to play Mincecraft! Bye guys! <3
#1791 [21:01] <Camman19> ok ill try to go do that where would i put that in
#1792 [21:01] <Wug> /join #SomeEmptyChannel
#1793 [21:01] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> how you join an empty one?
#1794 [21:02] <Wug> ^ like that
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#1796 [21:02] <Wug> that's not really a minecraft question. if you need to learn to use irc, ask in #help
#1797 [21:02] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> ohh
#1798 [21:02] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> ok
#1799 [21:02] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> thanks
#1800 [21:03] <Camman19> where would i put the credit info in
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#1803 [21:04] <Camman19> Wug where would i put that credit info to ask them
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#1805 [21:07] <Wug> just include it in the email
#1806 [21:07] <Wug> you're using the online email form?
#1807 [21:08] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> i made a new profile in the mc launcher, for 1.5.2 and it freezes at the mojang logo
#1808 [21:11] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> in fact after the mojang logo goes away its just a black screen
#1809 [21:11] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> help?
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#1811 [21:12] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> @wug?
#1812 [21:13] <Wug> do other versions work?
#1813 [21:13] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> im checking
#1814 [21:14] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> i tried 1.5.1 and 1.5.2
#1815 [21:14] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> they dont work
#1816 [21:14] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> the latest does
#1817 [21:14] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> 1.4.7 does
#1818 [21:15] <Bugboy1028> Did you read topic?
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#1820 [21:15] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> what topic?
#1821 [21:15] <LinuxGold> argh.
#1822 [21:15] * LinuxGold kicks flip flop...
#1822 [21:15] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> sorry
#1823 [21:16] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> 1.4.6 doesnt work
#1824 [21:16] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> oh
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#1826 [21:16] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> nvm
#1827 [21:16] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> it does
#1828 [21:16] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> its only 1.51 and 1.5.2
#1829 [21:16] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> but 1.5.2 is the one i want to play on
#1830 [21:17] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> cause of certain servers
#1831 [21:17] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> what should i do?
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#1834 [21:17] <Prinze> okay
#1835 [21:17] <Prinze> i'm having a problem
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#1837 [21:22] <Prinze> Ive just bought a mine craft prepaid card, i want to use my account Prinze_Chris and they said they sent an email to chrishayden444@yahoo.com but they didnt
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#1841 [21:25] <LinuxGold> is there any channel that I can go to for redstone discussion i.e. flip flop?
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#1847 [21:44] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> how do i pin minecraft to my task bar?
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#1850 [21:45] <xales> GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag: Right click the executable and select "Pin to (whatever)"
#1851 [21:45] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> it only says Close Window
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#1853 [21:45] <xales> You have to right click the executable file, not the game itself.
#1854 [21:45] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> :/
#1855 [21:46] <clarjon1> GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag: Right click the Minecraft.exe you downloaded
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#1859 [21:47] <GirlyMinecraftGuruSwag> ty
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#1866 [21:52] <alphawolf22472> My world on minecraft just suddenly disapeared when I clicked on it to play. Is there anything you could do to get it back?
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#1868 [21:57] <cayman> when i try to go in full screen it just is a black screen
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#1871 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> cayman - Then either don't play in full screen, or update your video drivers
#1872 [21:58] <Antonio> I am trying to test out the demo on a Mac. It keeps saying mincraft has crashed.
#1873 [21:59] <cayman> i have mac
#1874 [21:59] <Antonio> I have no idea what to do
#1875 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Antonio - Got an error report you could share with us via www.pastebin.com?
#1876 [21:59] <Antonio> I downloaded java, and thats working, but the demo isnt and I want to know before i buy that it works
#1877 [22:00] <cayman> i have mac computer
#1878 [22:00] <Antonio> cayman- then what do i do
#1879 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Antonio - Got an error report you could share with us via www.pastebin.com?
#1880 [22:01] <cayman> idk when i try to go in full screen or expand it it go to a black screen you to?
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#1882 [22:02] <cayman> this is called tech support but im not getting any
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#1884 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> cayman - Then either don't play in full screen, or update your video drivers
#1885 [22:03] <cayman> :( i dont know how
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#1889 [22:09] <cayman> saying Then either don't play in full screen, or update your video drivers doesent help jack shit so how about you actuly help people
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#1893 [22:20] <jordanjo5yl> hello?
#1894 [22:21] <jordanjo5yl> hello?
#1895 [22:21] <jordanjo5yl> Im having troubles with my graphic driver
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#1897 [22:21] <Extreme> jordanjo5yl,
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#1903 [22:35] <Petemonster> Hello!
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#1905 [22:36] <Petemonster> I'm having an issue with my minecraft launcher
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#1907 [22:37] <Wug> Petemonster: describe it
#1908 [22:38] <Petemonster> Ok. When i double click on it, it has a "Launchj4" error
#1909 [22:38] <Petemonster> as the title
#1910 [22:39] <Petemonster> I have looked up many different solutions for this problem, and i had no success with any of them yet
#1911 [22:39] <Petemonster> so yeah'
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#1916 [22:46] <joseres> ya
#1917 [22:46] <joseres> enpiese
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#1920 [22:48] <joseres> quierojugar
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#1937 [23:14] <sam> i cant connect to minecraft
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#1939 [23:14] <sam> i had a free version and i just bouhgt minecraft but i still cant play the full version
#1940 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Where did you get this 'free' version of minecraft from?
#1941 [23:15] <sam> its just the demo
#1942 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> Ah, what happens when you try to play the full version now?
#1943 [23:16] <sam> i logged in and it just says play demo
#1944 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Log into your Mojang.com account, make sure Minecraft is listed under "My Games" and that you've created a Mojang profile name there.
#1945 [23:17] <sam> ok 1 sec
#1946 [23:17] <sam> where is my fames
#1947 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> Under https://account.mojang.com/me
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#1949 [23:18] <sam> yeah minecraft is there
#1950 [23:18] <sam> and i have a profile name
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#1952 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> So when you log into Minecraft, are you using your email address there?
#1953 [23:19] <sam> yeah
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#1955 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
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#1957 [23:20] <FamilyComputerGeek> Hi! I'm trying to figure out what happened to my sister's Minecraft, but I really have no idea what's going on.
#1958 [23:20] <sam> nevvermind i just got it. i was using my username not my email
#1959 [23:20] <sam> thanks
#1960 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Ah. okay
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#1962 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> FamilyComputerGeek - Please describe exactly what's going on
#1963 [23:23] <FamilyComputerGeek> So she'll open up minecraft and click play. So the game loads and suddenly it flashes and comes up with another bunch of things. It says, Deleting C:\Users and on and on. And then it tells me 'Couldn't delete file, scheduling fo deletion upon exit.' And I've tried my best to figure out what's happened, but I've had no luck.
#1964 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy the entirety of that error report, go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste the text in the text box there. Submit it, then give us the address to the page here?
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#1968 [23:29] <FamilyComputerGeek> http://pastebin.com/fdTX5dFc Here you are.
#1969 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, there's a more detailed error report located at: C:\Users\Cayla\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\hs_err_pid14176.log
#1970 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Could you go there, open that file up, and copy the contents to pastebin again?
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#1975 [23:32] <FamilyComputerGeek> I feel like such an idiot for asking this, but how do you open up the file?
#1976 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Just use a program like notepad. Open up Notepad, drag the file into it
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#1981 [23:40] <Zachp> Everytime I load up MineCraft, It turns into a whitescreen at the update page.
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#1985 [23:42] <Zachp> Every time i load up minecraft, a white screen appears and nothing happens. I can't play the game.
#1986 [23:44] <Zachp> Help me Please
#1987 [23:46] <FamilyComputerGeek> http://pastebin.com/dzkmjQxG I opened it with notepad, and there was a lot. I just copied and pasted it anyways.
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#1989 [23:46] <xales> FamilyComputerGeek: Looks like you need to update your graphics card driver.
#1990 [23:47] <FamilyComputerGeek> ...What's that?
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#1992 [23:48] <xales> FamilyComputerGeek: It's the piece of software that interfaces between programs on your computer and your graphics card.
#1993 [23:48] <xales> ??> FamilyComputerGeek win/dxdiag/bat
#1994 [23:48] <VoxelHead> FamilyComputerGeek: Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1995 [23:49] <VoxelHead> FamilyComputerGeek: Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
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#1997 [23:49] <Zachp> I need help with my minecraft, I load the game, but the screen turns white!
#1998 [23:49] <xales> Zachp: Has it worked before?
#1999 [23:50] <Zachp> Nope.
#2000 [23:50] <xales> ??> Zachp win/dxdiag/bat
#2001 [23:50] <VoxelHead> Zachp: Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#2002 [23:50] <VoxelHead> Zachp: Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#2003 [23:50] <Zachp> Wait,
#2004 [23:50] <Zachp> What? lol.
#2005 [23:50] <xales> Just follow the instructions.
#2006 [23:51] <Zachp> Okay,
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#2008 [23:51] <Zachp> Ill Be Right Back, and tell you,
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#2010 [23:52] <Zachp> Okay,
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#2012 [23:52] <Zachp> I have it in paste bin
#2013 [23:52] <xales> Zachp: Okay, now you need to click Submit and give us the URL it takes you to.
#2014 [23:52] <Zachp> http://pastebin.com/8uUKmW5z
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#2016 [23:53] <xales> Zachp: You only copied the first part of the file. We need to see the *entire* file.
#2017 [23:53] <chrisb> Hello I really need help.. Im slowing being driven away from minecraft after years because two issues that Ive tried to put up with for years. I first started my server years ago and it was completley sand and forrest biom, but about a day after I start building it starts to snow even on desert. I have over 400 creations spaned over a loong distance on my server and every part has snow on it. It started snowing a day after creation. Ple
#2018 [23:53] <FamilyComputerGeek> http://pastebin.com/jfvZJxXX Here it is. There's a lot.
#2019 [23:54] <Zachp> http://pastebin.com/wjn8XkZ4
#2020 [23:54] <Lord_Ralex> chrisb, when did you make that world?
#2021 [23:54] <chrisb> and the snow stays forever, it never stops or goes away
#2022 [23:55] <chrisb> a long time ago but I have the patches
#2023 [23:55] <Zachp> http://pastebin.com/wjn8XkZ4 Thats the new pastebin
#2024 [23:55] <xales> Zachp: I saw it the first time. Sometimes it takes a few seconds for us to look, or read what was pasted.
#2025 [23:55] <xales> Please be patient.
#2026 [23:55] <Zachp> Okay, Thank you.
#2027 [23:55] <Lord_Ralex> chrisb, then what you are seeing is the changes in the world generator
#2028 [23:55] <Lord_Ralex> chrisb, what happens with older maps is their seed changes, so it changes how the world is made, whcih then affects the weather
#2029 [23:56] <chrisb> so yalll changed the world bioms ?
#2030 [23:56] <xales> FamilyComputerGeek: Run the AMD driver auto-detect/update here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#2031 [23:56] <Lord_Ralex> chrisb, it comes with the new world gens, such as the addition of biomes will affect the generator
#2032 [23:56] <chrisb> so every desert and forest is now snow ? how long will this last I want it gone.
#2033 [23:56] <Lord_Ralex> chrisb, you would have to just play that world on the same version it was made for full compatibility, or just deal with the new weather
#2034 [23:57] <chrisb> well how often does this happen... I mean whats the chances of every creation Ive made to date which is over 400 being covered in snow
#2035 [23:57] <Zachp> xales what could be the problem?
#2036 [23:58] <Lord_Ralex> chrisb, it only happens when Mojang really adds a new biome or generated block
#2037 [23:58] <Lord_Ralex> chrisb, so depends on the updates
#2038 [23:58] <xales> Zachp: Your computer doesn't meet the minimum requirements for Minecraft. It's far too old, and even when new, was a bottom-end model. There aren't any driver updates available that might improve compatibility, as every part of your computer has been discontinued.
#2039 [23:58] <Zachp> Really?
#2040 [23:58] <chrisb> so its possible an update will make it go away someday ?
#2041 [23:58] <Zachp> I just bought this computer with Windows 7 on it.
#2042 [23:59] <Lord_Ralex> chrisb, a future update might make the biome not a snow one, but just depends
#2043 [23:59] <Zachp> Is there anything i can do to fix it?
#2044 [23:59] <chrisb> players should have more control over server weather
#2045 [23:59] <xales> Zachp: Unfortunately, no. If you just bought it, you were probably ripped off. It is a very old computer.
#2046 [23:59] <FamilyComputerGeek> Ok, so what do I do after that?
#2047 [23:59] <Lord_Ralex> chrisb, it is not a server thing, it is a world thing
#2048 [23:59] <Zachp> :o
#2049 [23:59] <xales> FamilyComputerGeek: Did you download and install the update?
#2050 [23:59] <Zachp> There is no software i can use?